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C
C
E
Madam
chair,
thank
you.
There
are
a
couple
changes
so
case.
Two
and
four.
Those
are
both
for
63
50
airport,
road,
general
plan,
amendment
and
zoning.
Those
will
be
postponed
until
august,
the
august
18th
meeting.
They
had
a
alti
public
notice,
so
we
had
to
take
them
off
the
meeting
and
then
eighteen
forty
percent
day,
like
conquistador
subdivision,
will
be
postponed
to
august
18th
as
well.
B
Yes,
commissioner
lawrence,
yes,
commissioner
smith,
commissioner
faulkner.
C
C
A
C
A
Next
are
fundings
and
conclusions:
there
are
four
findings
and
conclusions
of
law,
finding
the
facts
and
conclusions
of
law
in
the
first
one.
I
guess
we'll
take
them
all
individually.
The
first
one
is
case,
number
2022-5205,
which
is
the
st
michael's,
drive
master
plan
amendment,
and
I
have
a
one
change
to
all
of
them:
the
in
the
first
paragraph.
It
says
that
it
came
for
public
hearing
on
july
7th.
It
does
not
state
that
it
also
came
for
a
public
hearing
on
july
21..
B
A
Okay,
the
next
is
case
number
2022-5206,
which
is
the
455
st
michaels
drive
cancer
center
development
plan
and
again
just
let
me
remind
everybody
if
they
were
not
present
at
that
hearing
a
commissioner
can
vote
if
they
have
reviewed
either
the
minutes,
but
there's
no
minutes
so
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
review
the
minutes
but
reviewed
the
hearing
and
reviewed
all
the
materials
on
this
matter
and
again
this
one.
We
need
to
add
the
hearing
that
was
held
on
july
21.
Are
there
any
other
amendments
to
the
findings
and
conclusions?
A
G
H
A
C
B
A
A
And
finally,
case
number
2022-5209.
A
I
I
A
What
was
decided
at
the
hearing
and
then
all
the
information
and
the
other
things
that
are
in
them.
So,
commissioner
smith,
you
can
go
ahead
and
vote
on
them.
Even
if
you're,
you
were
opposed
to
the
ruling,
because
you're
only
but
you're
not
voting
again
to
affirm
or
deny
the
variance
you're
voting
to
deter
as
to
whether
these
findings
reflect
what
was
heard
at
the
hearing
and
what
was
the
findings
and
the
conclusions
of
law.
K
The
findings
and
facts
were
they're
in
the
packet
that
you've
gotten.
They
should
be
a
reflection
of
what
happened
at
the
meeting
where
you
did
vote
and
they
should
reflect
the
vote
that
happened
at
that
meeting.
So
you're
just
now
voting
to
say,
like
with
the
minutes
that
the
findings
are
accurate,
reflection
of
what
happened
at
that
meeting.
C
D
M
Commission,
this
is
case
number
2022,
5393,
7261
airport
road
development
plan,
orion
west
llc
agent,
nbr,
7261
airport,
road,
llc
applicant
request
development
plan
approval
to
construct
a
261
thousand
square
foot
of
new
construction
for
a
221
unit,
multi-family
apartment
complex.
The
project
is
a
7.96
acre
lot
and
is
on
c2
within
the
airport,
road
overlay
and
within
the
river
and
trails
archaeological
review
district.
M
M
M
C
M
May
change
as
a
result
of
the
small
car,
but
he's
only
got
maybe
six
small
cars
for
six
or
eight
a
development
plan
identifies
12.
Inverted,
u
type
part
of
bicycle
parking.
The
requirement
is
only
12.,
so
he's
got
24
bicycle
is
provided
so
it
does
exceed
the
requirements
of
chapter
14
and
he's
placed
those
bicycle
parking
racks
throughout
the
development.
In
order
to
accommodate
the
community
that
will
use
biceps.
M
There
were
no
requirements
for
our
traffic
consultant
for
additional
infrastructure
requirements.
M
M
C
M
Property
is
virtually
flat,
as
you
can
see,
there's
nothing
on
the
property.
It's.
M
M
The
area
outside
of
this
along
airport
road
is
kind
of
a
mix
of
territorial
vernacular,
it's
peppered
with
with
both
in
industrial
metal
buildings
along
with
other
types
of
architectural
styles.
So
it's
a
mixed
use
along
airport
road,
the
pueblo
style
building
does
fit
in
with
the
existing
architecture.
That's
there.
D
M
The
enn
presented
many
concerns
from
the
neighborhood
from
safety
security
traffic
along
camino
juliana,
bottlenecking
at
camino
giuliana
on
airport
road
for
traffic
exiting
along
with
parking
within
the
development.
G
Thank
you
chair,
mr
esquibel.
I
was
just
looking
at
the
technical
corrections.
I
had
skimmed
them
before
and
was
looking
at
it
more
closely,
and
I
am
not
sure
that
the
technical
corrections
in
exhibit
a
as
included
in
our
packet
include
all
of
the
staff
comments,
and
I
was
wondering
before
we
come
to
all
of
the
staff
technical
corrections,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
take
another
look
at
that
and.
M
I
N
I
M
We
looked
at
that,
as
I
mean
chair
commission,
commissioner
pablo
we,
I
did
look
at
that
and
because
this
is
a
multi-family
residential,
it's
got
many
attached
dwelling
units
single
buildings.
D
M
Road
overlay
mainly
addresses
itself
to
commercial
development
where
it
requires
the
applicant
to
force
that
front
of
the
building
to
be
facing
forward
and
facing
forward
airport
road.
It
removes
dual
parking
along
that
area,
and
then
it
also
requires
specific
access
from
that
to
the
to
the
front
of
the
building.
M
So
as
a
multi-family
unit,
it
gathers
its
access
directly
from
the
parking
lot
area,
as
opposed
from
having
to
walk
to
the
street
and
to
access
the
store
or
the
front
of
the
store.
So
it
in
this
sense
for
multi-family,
it's
not
going
to
apply
and
it
hasn't.
It
hasn't
been
that
way.
Since
that
ordinance
was
adopted.
I
Thank
you
so
much
my
follow-up
question,
because
in
the
applicant's
material
they
they
state
more
than
once
that
they
do
comply
with
the
airport
road
overlay
zone
provisions,
requirements
setbacks.
So
in
your
opinion,
as
staff,
does
it
essentially
comply
with
overlay
zone
provisions
such
as
height
and
setbacks,
and
anything
else
that
was
intended
for
the
airport
road
to
be
different?
Well,.
M
I
do
not
let
the
applicant
address
that
I
I
don't
think
that
we
have
affordable
housing
here
tonight,
so
the
applicant
will
have
to
provide
that
that
estimate.
I
know
that
they
did
work
with
our
affordable
housing
department
that
was
required
before
they
even
came
to
this
meeting.
B
Well,
all
of
you
be
speaking
or
who,
if
whoever's
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
applicant,
I
can
swore
you
all
into
the
same
time.
Thank
you.
Please
raise
your
right
hands.
Do
you
swear
under
the
penalty
of
perjury
that
the
testimonies
you're
about
to
give
are
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth.
B
O
Yes,
madam
chair,
my
name
is
nancy
long
and
my
address
is
1800
a.o
pecos
trail
in
santa
fe
good
evening,
madam
chair
and
commissioners,
my
name
is
nancy
long,
as
I
stated,
and
I'm
an
attorney
in
santa
fe
and
part
of
the
team.
That's
representing
the
applicant
in
this
case.
O
My
comments
will
just
be
brief
and
the
planner
will
provide
more
details
about
this
project
has,
as
you
have
heard
from
mr
esquivel.
The
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
this
project
and
finds
that
it
meets
the
development
plan.
Approval
criteria
that
you
have
to
consider
the
property
side
is
owned.
C2,
which
is
general
commercial,
as
you
know,
and
multi-family
is
a
use
permitted
in
the
zone.
O
It
provides
much
needed
rental
housing,
the
sidewalk
improvements
that
you
saw
for
safer
pedestrian
access
where
they
are
lacking
now
it
provides
significant
open
space
within
the
project,
more
than
is
required
by
city
code,
and
it
does
exceed
the
city's
parking
requirements.
As
you
heard,
staff
also
found
that
the
project
meets
the
third
criterion,
that
the
use
of
buildings
are
compatible
and
adaptable
to
the
abundant
property
in
other
areas.
O
Other
properties
in
the
area-
and
you
did
see
some
pictures
in
mr
esquivel's
report
and
we
will
have
more
information
than
that
in
our
presentation,
but
basically
along
airport
road
next
to
and
fronting
airport
road.
Next
to
this
property,
you
go
from
mobile
home
park
parks
to
this
property
to
apartment
project,
to
another
apartment
project.
P
C
P
The
commission,
as
I
said
my
name,
is
brian
ninninger
and
I'm.
D
P
Of
give
you
a
deeper
dive
into
the
neighborhood,
mr
esquivel
kind
of
got
us
started
on
that,
but
I
just
want
to
kind
of
show
you
a
little
bit
what's
going
on
in
terms
of
what's
immediately
around
our
site.
So
as
you
see
in
the
green,
that's
our
7.96,
acre,
plus
or
minus
site
again,
as
dan
said,
it's
zoned
to
c2
and
it's
within
the
airport
overlay
and
commissioner
pava.
We
feel
like
that.
P
So
if
you
look
to
the
north
in
the
sort
of
bluish
color,
that's
the
vista
verde
mobile
home
community,
there's
roughly
71
homes
in
that
particular
community.
If
you
kind
of
go
around
and
look
at
the
purple,
that's
the
vista
verde
subdivision.
Those
are
roughly
57
homes.
I
think
there's
a
lot
that's
yet
to
be
built
out,
it
could
be
58
and
that
particular
those
are
all
single
family
homes.
And
then,
if
you
go
to
the
south,
you'll
see
santeera
and
there
are
86
apartments
in
that
complex.
P
You
go
a
little
bit
to
the
right.
You'll
see
anasazi
village
at
116
units,
and
you
go
all
the
way
over
here.
This
very
large
area
is
the
riverside
mobile
home
community
and
I
didn't
count
those
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why.
The
reason
that
I
didn't
highlight
riverside
and
I
didn't
highlight
the
anasazi
villages-
I
wanted
to
focus
your
attention
and
harvard
million.
Our
traffic
engineer
is
going
to
talk
more
about
this
on
the
communities
and
the
developments
that
directly
impact
agua,
free
or
rather
in
camino
juliana.
P
P
D
E
D
P
P
We
have
the
protective
left
at
camino
juliana,
an
airport,
and
then
we
have
two
what
we're
again
calling
full
service
in
and
out
into
the
complex
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
That
has
evolved
over
time
with
our
initial
e
n
and
feedback
that
we
have
from
the
neighborhood.
P
So
when
I
say
full
service,
particularly
the
camino
juliana
entry
and
exit,
there's
quite
a
queuing
lane
when
you
get
to
the
gate.
There
is
a
two-way
in
and
out
in
both
direction
for
the
residents,
but
there's
also
a
gate
and
a
sort
of
a
side
spot
for
visitors.
So
if
anybody's
coming
to
visit
they're,
not
holding
people
coming
in
and
out,
they
go
out
in
their
third
lane
and
then
they
call
the
unit
that
they're
trying
to
reach
and
that
unit
will
let
them
in
or
not.
P
So
I
want
to
shift
gears
a
little
bit.
We
had
talked
about
around
1600
feet
of
additional
sidewalks,
going
all
the
way
around
the
perimeter
of
the
property.
So
I
wanted
to
kind
of
give
just
a
quick
view.
Looking
down
agua
fria
from
airport
and
you'll
see
there
are
no
curb
and
gutters
at
this
point
no
sidewalks.
P
P
The
fence
that
you
see
here
is
roughly
six
feet
and
it's
a
combination
of
open
metal,
picket
and
pilasters,
and
so
the
idea
here
is
that
we're
landscaping.
This
area,
which
is
you
know,
roughly
probably
around
12,
to
13
feet,
depending
on,
where
you're
at
I'm
making
this
a
very
interesting
and
walkable
area
for
the
local
community.
P
P
We're
bringing
sidewalks
all
the
way
around
and
they'll
be
lighted,
and
so
there
are
there's
not
lights
out
there
today.
So
a
little
bit
of
additional
security.
P
So
kind
of
considering
the
landscape
piece
as
well.
Not
only
you
know
we
bringing
the
sidewalks
as
we're
bringing
the
landscaping
bringing
trees
so
there'll
be
some
shading
that
will
also
help
soften
this
area
and
make
this
a
more
enjoyable
area
to
walk,
and
I
won't
get
into
a
lot
of
detail
on
the
landscape.
It's
advised
to
say,
like
every
other
development
in
santa
fe,
we're
using
drought,
tolerant
plants
we're
using
passive
irrigation
whenever
we
can
and
the
one
thing
that's
important
and
ian.
Our
civil
engineer
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
this.
P
Q
Q
Speak
on
some
of
the
updates
that
we've
been
doing,
we
did
receive
a
few
last
minute
comments
last
week
and
we
wanted,
to
you
know,
update
our
development
plan
and
make
sure
that
we
address
those
also
so
right
now.
What
we're
looking
at
is
the
current
development
plan.
Q
First
comment:
we
received
regarded
our
open
space
requirement,
how
we
met
the
common
open
space
and
the
second
comment
was
our
compact
stalls,
the
smaller
stalls
that
we
included
on
site.
I
have
another,
exhibit
that
I'll
show
what
we
did.
We
ended
up,
removing
those
compact
stalls,
and
so
that
isn't
a
part
of
our
development
anymore
and
then
finally,
our
striping
and
signage
plan.
We
didn't
have
one
specifically
for
that,
but
we
did
show
it
on
our
paving
plan.
So
I
just
wanted
to
show
that
and
make
sure
that
was
noted.
D
Q
Exhibit
we
calculated
based
off
the
number
dwelling
units
for
our
site
and
that's
for
our
multi-family
residential
requirements.
In
total,
we
were
required
to
provide
five
or
55
250
square
feet.
We
provided
in
the
hatched
green
areas,
130
000
square
feet,
meeting
that
requirement
sorry
and
then
for
our
common
open
space
requirement.
It's
actually
just
50
of
that
overall
open
space.
We
did
provide
that
totaled
65
000
square
feet
in
our
center
block.
Here
we
show
that
we
have
provided
75
or
74
000
square
feet
in
that
requirement.
Also.
Q
D
I
N
R
R
Think
talked
about
that
pretty
well.
We
also
spent
time
listening
to
comments
from
the
neighbors
at
the
enm,
most
of
which
had
to
do
with
height
some
other
concerns,
but
we
originally
had
a
itch
roof
on
this
project.
We
went
to
a
flat
roof
to
try
to
bring
down
the
apparent
height.
We
also
had
a
lot
of
sort
of
extruding
balconies,
and
things
like
that
which
we
simplified
down.
Our
goal
was
really
to
kind
of
try
to
fit
in
once
we
have
multi-family
apartments,
single-family
homes
and.
S
R
But
also
something
that
reflected
some
life,
and
so
that's
the
elevation
you
see
before
you.
We
were
working
on
scale,
trying
to
keep
it
as
low
as
possible.
Looking
at
distance
from
neighbors,
reduce
the
height,
simplify
the
architecture
and
create
a
quality
pedestrian
environment,
which
I
think
is
a
really
important
part
not
only
for
the
residents,
but
also
for
the
neighbors,
since
everybody
that
lives
on
that
block
gets
to
enjoy
that
we
usually
meet
the
design
points
required.
T
I
completed
the
traffic
impact
study
for
this
development
and
I'd
like
to
go
through
a
few
of
the
findings
that
we
found
through
that
traffic
impact
study.
So
as
an
overall
view
of
the
traffic
study.
Of
course,
this
traffic
study
followed
national
standards
that
are
in
national
documents,
whereas
intersections
are
evaluated
by
a
grading
system.
T
T
There
is
the
institute
of
transportation
engineers
have
a
documents
and
a
portfolio
of
existing
existing
developments
around
the
country
in
which
they
develop
a
a
category
of
different
developments.
T
This
one
was
called
multi-family
housing,
whereas
in
the
country
after
after
developments
are
built,
there
are
traffic
counts
that
are
stored
in
this
in
this
catalog,
which
are
utilized
in
in
developments.
So
this
development
was,
of
course
used,
multi-family
housing
and
the
entering
and
exiting
vehicles
was
were
were
gathered
from
that
catalog.
T
So
the
intersections
that
were
analyzed
as
part
of
the
development
of
course
centralized
around
the
development
in
the
in
the
center
here
I'll
go
through
those
through
those
intersections.
So
the
first
intersection
here,
airport,
road
and
old
airport
road
also
called
constellation,
drive
the
second,
though,
that
first
intersection,
of
course,
is
signalized.
H
T
That
one
is
of
course,
signalized
as
well
intersection.
Three
is
airport
road
and
camino
juliana,
which
is
a
one
direction,
stop
with
airport
being
free
with
no
stop
control,
intersection,
four
airport,
road
and
country
club
or
san
felipe,
which
is
also
a
signalized
intersection,
intersection
number
five
camino
juliana
and
camino
vista
verde
intersection
number
six
was
aguafria
and
camino
juliana
and
intersection.
Seven
is
that
new
site
access
for
the
development
onto
agua
fria?
T
So
these
intersections,
we
coordinated
with
the
city
of
santa
fe
on
these,
and
they
were
the
ones
that
decided
these
intersections
and
gave
those
intersections
to
us
as
as
a
starting
point
to
analyze,
based
on
the
development
the
vehicles
and
where
they
were,
they
would
be
anticipated
to
go.
T
So,
as
part
of
the
traffic
study,
those
exist,
those
intersections
that
I
mentioned
existing
counts
were
done
to
to
determine
how
many
vehicles
enter
each
of
those
intersections.
Those
counts
were
gathered
on
march
29th
of
this
year.
T
Those
counts
were
taken
throughout
the
day
and
the
the
national
standard
of
traffic
engineers
shows
that
to
analyze
this
intersection,
these
intersections,
you
look
at
the
highest
hour
rate
volume
at
each
each
intersection,
an
am
hour
peak
hour
and
a
pm
peak
hour,
and
those
were
analyzed
as
such.
T
These
show
the
existing
intersections
without
the
development,
and
you
can
see
based
on
that
those
categories
I
mentioned
previously,
a
through
f
all
of
these
intersections
operate
at
a
level
of
surface
c
or
better
meaning,
meaning
that
these
intersections
don't
have
more
than
20
seconds
of
delay
in
any
of
the
am
or
pm
peak
hours
with
the
development.
T
T
Excuse
me
sorry,
but
there
was
one
intersection:
the
intersection
of
camino
juliana
and
airport
road,
where
the
existing
apartments
are
san
tierra
apartments
are
that
the
state
of
new
mexico
has
guidelines
for
where
or
when
a
right
turn
lane
a
dedicated
right
turn.
Lane
should
be
at
this
intersection
on
airport
road,
the
existing
traffic
on
airport,
road
and
camino
julia
camino
juliana.
T
They
by
that
stand
by
that
new
mexico
standard
which
the
city
of
santa
fe
has
adopted.
T
Right
turn
lane
there
and
this
right
turn
lane
is
warranted
without
our
development,
so
due
to
the
right-of-way
constraints
at
this
location
that
dedicated
right
turn,
lane
can't
be
built
without
due
diligence
in
acquiring
additional
right-of-way
at
that
location.
D
P
Thank
you,
carl,
so
here
cloud
and
commissioners
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
finish
up
with
a
few
things:
we've
as
we've
kind
of
evolved.
I
just
want
to
talk
about
what
has
changed
where
we
started.
So.
The
first
thing
we
you've
heard
already
tonight
is
the
building
height,
so
we
did
start
out
with
at
least
one
building
that
we
had
as
a
four-story.
P
It
was
the
clubhouse
and
obviously
after
we
spent
some
time
and
talking
to
the
neighbors,
we
thought
we
needed
to
back
off
on
that
a
little
bit,
so
we
dropped
a
story
and
then,
from
there,
as
mark
hogan
pointed
out,
we
also
went
to
a
flat
roof
design
because
even
with
the
pitch
roof,
we
had
quite
quite
an
elevation
at
the
peak
of
the
roof,
and
you
know
the
thing
about
a
pitch
roof.
Is
they
average
that
roofline?
And
so
you
get
a
little
bit
more
height
out
of
it?
P
D
P
You
can
see
that
that
dropped
our
height
quite
significantly
another
five
feet.
The
other
thing
that
we
did
is
add
the
the
full
service
entrance
off
aqua
free,
as
I
discussed
that
originally
was
just
an
out
a
right
and
left
out,
and
we
made
that
a
full
service.
Just
like
a
camino
juliana-
and
you
know
our
thought
process
on
that-
is
that
as
people
realize
that
there's
a
light
right
here
at
airport
road
in
aquafria,
that's
going
to
be
residents,
choice
to
get
out
and
get
out
to
the
area
quickly.
P
We
also
did
the
five
foot
landscape
bumper.
There
was
some
some
comments
around
a
better
experience
being
protected
from
the
street,
and
then
the
city
also
made
that
recommendation.
We
originally
just
had
that
along
agua
fria,
then.
Finally,
we
modified
the
architecture.
Our
original
architecture
was
quite
modern
with
the
pitch
groups.
P
It
was
more
in
keeping
with
what
I
would
say
would
be
an
industrial
or
rail
yard
feel,
which
is
not
really
that
uncommon
down
by
tractor
supply.
But
it's
not
really
what's
going
on
right
around
us,
so
just
trying
to
be
sensitive
to
what
people
like
to
repurchase.
Our
santa
fe
brand
and
take
more
cues
from
pueblo
style
in
this
development
in
this
design
is
what
we
decided
to
do
here.
P
So
I
want
to
let's
just
spend
some
time,
so
I
you
know
nancy
brought
up,
and
I
know
that
there'll
be
some
folks
who
will
want
to
want
to
visit
about
this
a
little
bit
that
might
have
different
viewpoints,
but
we
feel
good
about
this
project
because
it
is
housing.
You
know.
I
know
that
just
a
couple
of
meetings
ago
alexandra
gave
a
presentation
on
affordable
housing
and
political
issues
in
general,
and
I
thought
it
was
a
great
presentation.
P
It
was
also
really
enlightening,
and
one
of
the
things
that
you
know
we
want
to
talk
about
here
is
that,
in
order
to
to
help
the
situation
with
housing,
we
need
to
take
care
of
housing
not
only
in
the
affordable
areas,
but
also
market
rate.
P
Road
that
did
the
15
affordable,
so
they
were
actually,
I
think
it's
the
only
one
that
I
know
of
that
actually
incorporated
that,
instead
of
just
doing
the
e
and
lu
and
I'll
give
you
a
little
bit
of
perspective
of
why
there
and
not
here
one
of
the
reasons
is
that's
an
opportunity
zone.
So
there
are
certain
tax
benefits
to
developing
in
an
opportunity
zone
that
help
allow
the
developer
a
little
bit
more
leeway
to
do
that
kind
of
thing.
So
that's
why
that's
why
they
did
it
there
in.
P
P
H
P
Is
in
keeping
with
what's
allowed
in
c2,
it's
definitely
below
the
maximum
height
of
45
feet
and
it'll
serve
a
need.
We
know
that,
with
los
alamos
expansion
that
they're
really
putting
pressure
on
not
only
santa
fe
but
even
into
albuquerque,
so
this
is
one
of
those
projects
that
can
help
a
little
bit
with
that.
I.
P
Also
important
and
commissioner
smith
had
asked
about
what
is
our
contribution,
and
so,
if
you
look
down
a
little
bit
here,
you
can
see
that
we're
438
thousand
dollars
is
our
family
of
contribution.
And
again,
if
you
remember
alexander's
presentation
that
money
goes
to
good
causes
and
good
uses,
it
helps
people
get
into
homes.
They
help
subsidize
rent.
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
these
in
detail
again,
because
this
is
right
out
of
her
presentation.
P
Anasazi
village
are
examples,
and
then
we
have
our
residences
in
mr
verde.
We
have
our
residences
in
the
two
mobile
home
communities
that
are
right
there
as
well.
So
this
just
rounds
out
the
residential
offering
in
that
area
just
to
also
kind
of
follow
up
and
what
nancy
said
this
project
is
allowed
in
the
c2
general
commercial
district,
we're
not
asking
for
any
variances
and
we're
happy
to
comply
with
all
of
the
technical
corrections
and
conditions
of
approval
that
staff
has
put
before
us
and.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
ask
if
any
of
the
commission
commissioners
have
any
questions
of
the
applicant
that
are
like
clarifying
questions,
no
no
comments
or,
but
just
more.
If
you
need
more
information,
mr
lawrence.
G
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
brief
clarifying
questions,
one
for
the
civil
engineer.
There
was
the
mention
of
removing
the
compact
stalls
and
I
was
wondering
if
that
is
affecting
the
number
of
parking
spots
at
all.
Q
U
G
D
G
Thank
you
and
then
my
only
other
clarifying
question
was
there
was
the
discussion
of
the
landscaping,
the
discussion
of
some
trees
and
additional
landscaping
there.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
give
examples
of
the
sort
of
trees,
you're
considering.
P
So
that
is
a
good
question.
I
had.
D
P
Need
to
pull
up
the
landscape
plan
for
that
locusts
are
not
uncommon
and
you've
probably
seen
a
lot
of
the
honey
locusts
out
there
in
that
in
that
area.
In
that
design,
I
know
everybody's
getting
away
from
purple
ash
these
days
because
of
a
bug
that's
going
through,
but
if
I
can
definitely
follow
up
and
get
you
the
the
tree
varieties
that
we
intend
to
use
general.
C
D
Q
C
Q
C
V
P
Yes,
commissioner
lucero,
it
depends
on
the
comments.
We've
gotten
we've
gotten,
both
one
is
we
don't
like
defense
communities
and
the
other
is:
where
is
our
offense?
We
want
a
fence
for
our
community.
So
what.
C
P
Hope
to
do
sorry.
What
we
hope
to
do
is
by
providing.
D
P
Picket
fence
that
there
is
a
visual
quality
that
it
doesn't,
you
know
read
just
like
a
solid
wall.
We
do
have
a
solid
wall
along
airport,
for
noise
and
various
reasons
and
to
help
you
know,
facilitate
and
accentuate.
Really
the
landscape
is
going
to
be
there,
but
on
camino
julian
and
agua
freya.
It's
all
an
open
pick
event,
so
you
could
see
what's
happening.
It
just
keeps
you
from
walking
easily
walking
in
you
know
to
areas
where
people
are
trying
to
have
their
cars
secure.
C
I
have
one
more
question
in
reference
to
the
bike
racks.
You
know,
I'm
a
cyclist.
I
appreciate
all
the
bike
racks,
but
I
just
wonder
if
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
the
to
why
you
put
bike
racks
in
certain
places.
Some
of
the
you
know
the
reasoning
behind
where
they
go.
P
Yeah
so
chair
chairwoman
cloud,
commissioner
lucero
what
we
tried
to
do
just
accommodate
as
many
of
those
departments
as
we
could
so
as
many
locations.
You
can
see
that
they're
all
kind
of
spread
out
between
various
buildings
and
our
goal
was
just
to
accommodate
our
residents
so
that
they
all
had
an
option
for
a
bike
rack.
I'm.
P
P
E
Was
that
jason?
You
have
a
comment,
I'm
sure.
Yes,
thank
you
I'd
like
to
add
a
clarifying
point.
Thank
you.
So,
during
the
building
permit
we'll
make
sure
that
the
building
permit
process
will
make
sure
that
those
bike
racks
are
located
at
least
50..
They
can't.
K
P
Yes,
so
I'm
going
to-
let's
see,
let's
just
start
with
this
drawing
which
is
the
development
plan,
and
let's
see
if
the
cursor
is
showing
up.
So
I'm
going
to
put
my
cursor
over
these
buildings
and
and
make
sure
you
guys
understand.
Everyone
understands
the
commissioners
what
we're
looking
at.
So
this
first
building
is
building
a,
and
that
is
what
we
call
the
clubhouse
building
and
that
building
is
three
stories
and
it
is
39
feet,
6
inches
as
we
look
and
move
through
the
other
buildings,
bees
and
seas.
P
So
those
buildings
are
less
than
they're
in
the
28
feet,
six
inch
range
for
the
one,
that's
ada
and
they're
they're,
another
foot
shorter
for
the
ones
that
are
not
does
that
help
with
the
height
question,
commissioner,.
I
P
As
we
were
talking
about,
there's
quite
a
distance,
if
you
look
at
from
the
front
the
face
of
this
building
over
as
we
look
at
the
first
buildings
and
so
we're
estimating
that's
at
least
135
feet
and,
as
you
also
see,
there's
sort
of
this
v,
as
you
look
at
how
these
buildings
are
are
affecting
the
impact
of
that
community,
we
have
not
done
a
shadow
study
per
se.
I
mean,
I
think
what
we
would
be
talking
about,
of
course,
is
from
the
west,
we're
not
really
worried
about
from
the
east.
P
So
in
the
evening
you
know
it
may
be
possible
on
this
corner,
but
it's
probably
not
that
likely
they're
just
so
far
over.
I
don't
see
that
you're
going
to
feel
like
it's
evening
and
I'm
in
my
backyard
and
I've
got
this
dark
space
that
I
would
not
normally
have
otherwise
have.
I
find
that
hard
to
believe
with
that
kind
of
distance.
I
The
follow-on
to
that
would
be
is
in
santa
fe's
climate,
as
opposed
to
dallas,
where
some
of
these
concepts
seem
to
be
popular
and
from
we
have
ice
and
snow
in
the
wintertime
and
our
low
sun
angles
also
on
north
facing
sides
of
buildings
and
on
east
facing
sides
of
buildings.
Do
you
as
an
architect
think
that
those
problems
are
ameliorated,
with
the
the
design
of
the
thing.
P
Well,
it's
no
doubt
that
the
angles
are
lower
for
the
for
the
north
and
south,
facing
facades
of
the
building,
but
again.
P
Time,
seeing
that
kind
of
impact
based
on
the
distance,
we
are
from
our
adjacent
homes,
and
that
includes
the
trailer
homes
to
the
north.
So.
E
P
You
know
just
from
a
level
of
service
for
your
customers,
you
have
to
remove
snow
and
ice
to
keep
everybody
safe.
The
liability
issues
just
all
by
themselves,
if
you
don't
clear
sidewalks
and
your
parking
lots
are
quite
significant
and
the
insurance
carrier
is
going
to
require
it.
So
the
answer
to
that
question
is
yes.
I
Yeah-
and
these
are
taller
buildings
for
santa
fe-
I
have
a
question
about
recycling
I
saw
in
the
neighborhood
notice
comments.
Something
about
recycling
is,
is:
is
the
complex
going
to
have
a
provision
for
recycling
if
tenants
wish
to
do
it
and
if
so,
how
so.
P
I
The
final
question
is:
can
you
give
us
an
idea
of
the
range
of
the
rents-
and
I
asked
this
because
it
has
been
stated
that
this
is
one
asset
that
serves
in
the
quote:
unquote,
public
interest
and
in
santa
fe.
We
are
all
aware
of
the
need
for
the
missing
middle
housing
and
and
developments
like
this
as
you've
made
the
case
well
with
the
growth
of
los
alamos
and
they're
externalizing,
their
growth
onto
santa
fe
and
whatnot.
So
I'm
curious
about
the
rental
range.
P
P
W
C
W
Applicant
yeah
hi,
so
my
my
question
is:
if
you
have
anything
you
could
share
for
us
at
this
time
on
how
you're
meeting
water
conservation
and
water
harvesting.
P
Yeah,
so
the
probably
the
primary
areas-
and
let
me
go
back
down
to
the
landscape
slide
if
you
look
at
this
whole
area
along
airport
road,
so
obviously
we're
taking
advantage
of
that
as
a
detention
area,
but
it's
also
passive
irrigation.
So
we
take
advantage
of
those
low
areas.
We
divert
water
into
those
areas
so
that
there's
passive
irrigation
instead
of
just
always
active
irrigation.
P
So
that's
those
are
all
opportunities
to
catch,
basically
as
much
water
as
you
can
before
it
leaves
the
site
so
and
that's
getting
to
be
pretty
much.
I
would
say
the
standard
operating
procedure
now
for
people
that
are
doing
landscape
in
santa
fe.
This
is
the
passive
water
harvesting.
P
Will
be
used,
we
do
not
have
cisterns
designed
to
get
this
particular
setup.
W
Another
point
of
clarification
you
mentioned
before
the
reason
you
were
going
in
lieu
of
affordable
housing,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
your
statement
correctly
basically
saying,
because
of
increasing
construction
cost,
that
fee
is
less
than
you'd
have
to
pay
that.
P
Is
correct,
yeah
we
would
lose.
You
know
there.
It's
just
economics,
and
you
know
alexander,
did
a
great
job
in
her
presentation,
but
I
would
respectfully
submit
that
to
alpha
alexander
out.
We
need
to
make
some
changes
in
the
city
code
and
make
this
missy.
You
know,
for
you
know.
W
My
my
final
question,
the
change
in
the
facades
and
and
the
roof
was
that
entirely
in
response
to
the
neighborhood.
P
It
was
partly
in
response
to
the
neighborhood
and
also
to
the
city.
I
think
in
that
section
we
had,
I
think
I
said
both
neighbor
and
city
feedback,
so
we
had
some
discussion
about
the
architecture
and,
as
the
architecture
really
fit
into
the
surrounding
neighborhood,
and
we
took
that
to
heart
and
redesigned
it.
P
Well,
I
I
can
also
tell
you
the
old
design
for
mr
rondo
with
the
instruments
was
actually
a
more
expensive
design.
We
thought
that
it
was.
P
We
originally
thought
that
it
would
be
a
nicer
approach,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
flat
roofs,
but
at
this,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
just
felt
too
out
of
character
too
far
away
from
santa
fe.
A
Any
other
questions
before
we
open
it
up
to
public
comment,
if
not
we'll
go
ahead
and
move
to
public
comment,
so
anyone
from
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak,
please
stand
stand
up,
so
you
can
be
sworn
in.
B
A
And
we
will
first
do
public
comment
for
people
that
are
present
here
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
to
any
comment
on
zoom.
I
see,
there's
already
one
hand
raised
so
come
on
up.
If
all
three
of
you
want
to
come
up
and
just
sort
of
line
up
over
there
by
the
podium.
U
Y
My
first
question
is:
I
uploaded
our
comments
to
the
site
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
you've
everybody
got
that.
Y
Great,
thank
you
and
then
my
next
comment
is
just
regarding
your
question,
mr
lucero.
The
people
who
responded
when
you
asked
about
the
fence,
the
neighbors
did
object
to
the
fence.
The
ones
who
asked
for
a
fence
was
in
response
to
their
fans,
not
that
we
want
to
fence.
Okay,
there's
a
clarification
on
that.
Y
Madam
chair
and
commissioners,
I'm
joanna
levetti
a
homeowner
on
the
street
next
to
the
lot.
Let's
talk
about
profits,
because
that's
what
this
proposed
development
is
all
about.
Isn't
it
profits,
because
if
it
was
about
doing
the
right
thing,
we
wouldn't
even
be
here
there's
a
term
in
your
package,
public
interest.
Y
H
D
Y
H
Y
Units
that's
1.57,
spaces
per
apartment.
Of
course
there
will
be
overflow
onto
our
streets.
Again,
I
say:
profit
221
units
on
eight
acres
is
over
27
dwellings
per
acre
in
our
neighborhood
that
averages
seven
and
how
is
it
that
the
city
allows
them
to
import
water
from
elsewhere
beyond
the
city
usage
limits?
Y
Y
V
N
N
My
address
is
194
and
first
of
all,
I
like
to
say
that
this
project
here
we're
having
situations
now,
like
I
said
with
once
again,
we've
talked
about
the
overflow
of
cars
and
in
the
streets.
A
lot
of
these
pictures
don't
show
now,
if
you're
to
go
there
now
you'll
see
that
whole
street
lined
up
with
cars
from
the
overflow
from
the
apartment
complex.
N
That's
there
now,
the
owner
of
that
complex,
also
admitted
he
has
situations
with
all
the
parking
issues
and
the
overflow
with
the
traffic
we're
having
there
riverside
too
we're
having
issues.
I
in
that,
I'm
myself
as
a
president
there
with
my
own
funds,
I'm
gonna
have
to
build
a
fence
because
we
have
a
little
park
there
with
basketball
courts
that
I'm
having
cars
actually
drive
through
there,
because
there's
so
much
traffic
from
riverside
and
from
those
apartments
right
next
to
the
housing
there
they
actually
drive
through
their
cars,
we're
having
cars
parked.
N
Also
in
my
park
there
we
have
semi
truck
parked
right
on
there
and
if
you
see
that
street
once
this
development
comes
in
it
curves
this
way,
so
once
those
come
in,
that's
going
to
start
being
a
danger,
because
I
know
cars
are
going
to
be
parked
along
there
and
it's
going
to
cause
a
lot
of
problems
that
we
have
now
and
it
would
be
nice.
I
know
you
see
pictures,
but
it
would,
if
you
go
out
there
and
really
see
how
bad
it
is
out
there.
N
It
is
a
very
bad
area
with
the
overflow
and
all
the
cars
that
are
parking
on
the
side.
So
I
know
with
this
project.
It's
just
gonna
make
things
a
lot
worse
for
all
of
us
and
I
think
that's
about
all.
I
have
to
say
I
don't
go
through
all
the
other
studies
and
so
forth,
but
as
santa
fans
and
I've
lived
there
for
28
years.
This
is
just
like.
I
said
a
project
right
now
that
we
don't
definitely
need
in
that
area.
N
Right
now,
there's
a
lot
of
housing
coming
up
right
now
and
that's
great,
maybe
housing
if
they
built
in
there.
Instead
of
apartments
would
be
a
plus,
affordable
housing
in
that
way,
but
apartment
complex,
definitely
not
I
mean
it's
you've
got
to
see
it
in
life
than
photos,
and
I
wish
one
day
you
guys
got
to
say
you
know
what
this
just
doesn't
work
for
this
area.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
L
Good
evening
my
name
is
patrice
chavis.
I
was
born
and
raised
here
in
santa
fe,
and
I
purchased
my
home
at
vista
verde
community
20
years
ago,
as
a
single
parent
within
a
two
mile
radius
of
the
requested
development.
There
are
over
10
massive
apartment
club
complexes,
either
complete
being
built
or
in
the
beginning
stages.
L
L
In
addition
to
the
concerns
that
I
share,
we
have
a
bus
stop
where
our
children
get
picked
up
daily
on
camino
giuliano,
our
mailboxes
are
immediately
across
where
they're
planning
their
entrance
and
exit
when
it
rains
and
snows
camino
giuliana
doesn't
drain
on
either
side.
There's
massive
amounts
of
water,
regardless
of
the
amount
of
rain
that
comes
through.
L
I
ask
first
that
you
deny
the
development,
but
at
the
very
least,
hold
off
on
any
type
of
approval
until
you
all
can
look
into
this
very
serious
situation
further
and
as
my
community
member
mentioned,
I
ask
all
of
you
to
take
a
drive
out
there
and
to
look
at
the
area
and
look
at
the
road
that
we
are
concerned
about,
because
it
really
is
a
safety
issue
and
a
quality
of
life
issue
for
all
of
us
that
have
made
that
area
our
home
for
the
last
20
years.
Thank
you.
X
X
X
X
B
B
S
S
This
edition,
that's
coming
up
is
going
to
bring
at
least
600
people.
That's
a
lot
of
water
to
be
used.
In
addition,
you
guys
the
planning
commission
just
approved
a
couple
of
metals
those
apartments
there,
and
then
you
also
have
another
one
coming
up.
Water
is
the
issue.
We
must
stop
building
and
find
out
how
much
water
is
available.
All
this
project-
some?
Oh,
it's
a
beautiful
project
on
this
and
that
but
the
water
is
the
most
important
thing.
S
S
X
X
So
I
would
recommend
trying
to
utilize
that
or.
A
X
All
right,
so
we
have
it
here,
let's
see
so
by
phone,
you
can
call
one
six,
six,
nine
four,
four
four
nine
one,
seven
one
and
the
webinar
id.
X
B
Z
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
reiterate
what
everybody
else
has
talked
about
with
the
parking
and
the
traffic
on
camino
giuliano.
Z
Z
Excuse
me
also.
The
concern
I
have
is
is
hardware.
Sorry,
I'm
having
a
lot
of
feedback
in
my
in
my
phone,
so
it's
hard
to
focus
the
parking
where
we
have
our
mailboxes
is
going
to
be
right.
Where
the
entrance
for
this
apartment
complex
is
that's
going
to
be
an
issue
right
now,
it's
really
hard,
sometimes
just
to
stop
and
park
there
and
get
your
mail.
Z
Z
AA
X
No,
it's
great
to
hear
you.
Can
you
please
just
state
your
name
and
address
and
be
sworn
in
for
the
record
before
you
begin
your
comments.
Thank
you.
B
D
AA
Okay,
commissioners,
I
apologize
brand
new
technology,
just
couldn't
get
it
to
work.
I
am
the
owner
of
the
santiara
apartment
complex,
which
is
directly
across
the
street.
From
this
proposed
development.
AA
AA
And
when
we
bought
it,
we
we
knew
immediately
that
the
the
project
was
under
grossly
under
parked
and
that
the
because
it
was
under
park,
people
were
parking
in
the
drive
lanes
and
creating
a
public
safety
hazard,
and
we
had
reports
back
from
ems
and
police
and
fire.
That
said,
you
know
they
could.
There
were
times
when
they
could
not
get
an
ems
vehicle
into
the
project.
To
solve
the
problem,
we
decided
at
our
own
cost
to
tear
down
an
eight
unit
building,
but
we
reduced
it
from
94
to
86..
AA
We
also
then
tore
down
the
100
10
000
square
foot
community
building
that
was
not
being
utilized
and
relocated
it
to
a
smaller
office
with
a
smaller
community
space
that
would
address
the
needs
of
our
tenants.
We
then
increa
in
the
whole
purpose
of
it
was
to
increase
the
circulation
pattern
within
the
apartment
complex
and
to
increase
parking.
We
were
able
to
get
it
to
about
two
spaces
per
unit.
I
repeat
two
spaces
per
unit.
AA
We
have.
We
have
had
a
continual
parking
problem
at
two
spaces
per
unit
to
the
point
where
we
are
going
to
remove
some
of
the
common
area
and
a
shade
structure
just
to
add
14
additional
spaces,
hopefully
that,
with
the
addition
of
14,
we
will
solve
our
parking
problem.
I.
D
AA
Have
a
problem
with
this
apartment
project
being
built.
In
fact,
it
will
only
add
value
to
my
apartment
project.
So
I
I
don't
want
to
say
that
I
am
not
in
support
and
I
also
don't
believe
that
it
is
competition
for
us
as
we
are,
as
we
are.
A
100
percent
truly
affordable
housing
project
that
was
developed
under
the
affordable
housing
program
of
the
state
of
new.
D
AA
All
of
our
all
of
our
units
are
dedicated
to
people
making
a
working
wage
so
they're
their
their
market
rate
project
will
not.
It
will
not
affect
us,
so
I
don't
have
that
axe
to
grind.
AA
But
what
I
can
tell
you
is,
I
have
been
developing
in
arizona
and
new
mexico
for
35
years
we
own
and
operate
and
develop
35
plus
apartment
projects.
I
have
projects
in
los
alamos.
I
have
projects,
obviously
in
santa
fe,
I
have
them
in
las
cruces.
I
have
them
in
silver
city.
I
have
them
in
gallup,
and
I
have
them
in
florida
and
every
in
every
one
of
those
apartment
complexes
we
strive
to
get
to
at
least
two
spaces
per
apartment.
AA
I
think
it's
ridiculous
to
assume
that
people
living
in
apartment
complexes
for
the
most
part
are
very
seldom
single
individuals.
They
usually
are
couples
couples
with
children.
They
own
two
cars.
They
just
do
so.
My
problem
with
this
apartment
project
is
that
it
is
done.
It
has
been
conceived
under
one
purpose
to
maximize
the
number
of
units,
because
my
guess
is,
the
project
will
be
built,
it
will
be
filled
and
it
will
be
flipped
and
sold
and
it
is
sold
on
a
per
unit
basis
and
that's
what
generates
the
most
amount
of
money.
AA
AA
AA
X
X
That
would
happen
and.
M
I
did
not
look
at
the
ordinance
when
it
was
changed.
I
think
it
used
to
be
the
old
albertson
site
so
ever
since
was
looking
at
this
and
they
did
purchase
it
to
put
a
shopping
center
there,
but
then
they
pulled
out
yeah.
M
H
M
M
I
Parking
seems
to
come
up
time
and
again
because
we're
auto
dependent
and
yet
this
development
more
than
complies
with
current
city
codes,
correct.
M
I
I
E
Madam
chair,
commissioner,
would
you
mind
expounding
upon
that
a
little
bit?
I'm
not
sure.
I
understand
the
question.
I
In
your
role
as
a
department
head,
can
you
discuss
this
matter,
perhaps
with
the
police
department
and
others
who
would
survey
this
area
to
to
consider
parking
enforcement?
If
there
are
violations
to
parking,
for
example,
large
semis
commercial
vehicles
that
maybe
shouldn't
be
parked
there?
Maybe
they
are
allowed
to
be
parked
by
city
code?
I'm
just
mentioning
it
because
I
clearly
heard
this
is
an
issue
from
all
the
people
presenting
in
the
public
comments.
E
Veteran
chair,
commissioner:
typically
those
issues
are
addressed
through
complaints,
response
to
complaints
and
enforcement.
But
yes,
we
can
definitely
bring
that
up
and
try
to
be.
You
know
more
proactive
about
it,
I'll
absolutely
bring
it
up.
F
Okay,
so
I
have
a
question
for
the
developer:
how
many
affordable
units
did
you
did
you
offset
with
in
lieu
of.
F
M
P
P
P
P
F
F
I
I
have
trouble
seeing
projects
like
this
as
a
community
as
beneficial
to
the
community,
in
the
sense
that
you
roughly
got
rid
of
33
units,
but
only
paid
enough
money
to
so
the
pro
the
inlet
program
is
used
to
offset
the
cost
of
people
who
can't
afford
to
rent
market
value
apartments
and
the
theory.
Is
you
get
the
lieu
of
money?
Then
people
apply
to
use
it
and
that
gets
them
back
into
the
market
value
apartments.
F
So
it's
we're
not
doing
a
service,
we're
actually
displacing
people
who
can't
afford
market
value
apartments
to
the
difference
of
33
to
13.
and
so
th.
This
is
where
I
I
struggle
with
projects
of
this
kind.
The
other
issue
I
have
is
that
apartment
complexes
are
the
gateway
into
getting
home
ownership
and
there
are
almost
no
apartments
being
built
that
are
in
the
affordable
range,
and
I
know
this
because
I've
been
apartment
hunting
with
my
son
and
my
nephew,
and
so
that's
just
something.
F
does
it
am
I
making
sense
to
anyone
like
there's
a
gap
between
need
and
what
the
lua
program
is
accomplishing
as
a
strategy
where
it
comes
to
apartments,
and
so
I
I
just
struggle
with
being
okay
with
green
lighting,
endless
apartment
building,
without
any
consideration
for
that
we're
digging
ourselves
into
a
deeper
and
deeper
hole.
P
F
P
All
for
your
comments-
I
kind
of
alluded
to
that
earlier-
that
we
do
have
some
issues
with
the
code
and
this
drives
developers
to
take
the
p
in
lieu
of
route
unless
there's
an
opportunity
zone
or
some
other
mechanism
that
helps
make
that
work
again.
This
particular
developer
is
probably
one
of
the
only
ones
that
has
done
something
other
than
the
lua
for
an
apartment
project
and
that's
fairly.
Recent.
P
R
F
F
Much
like
we
do
in
single
family
dwellings.
We
have
a.
We
have
an
amount
that
we
that
I
think
is
30
30
30,
roughly
that
we
do
in
single
family
dwellings.
F
A
You're
accommodating,
I
think
your
comments
are
well
taken.
I
think
what
also
needs
to
be
considered
is
the
fact
that
this
project
is
able
to
do
a
fee
in
lieu,
because
that's
what
the
statute
the
ordinance
provides,
but
also
from
what
I've
heard
is
that
when
there
was
a
requirement
of
affordable
apartments
as
opposed
to
fee
and
lou,
there
were
no
apartments
that
were
being
built
because
none
of
the
developers
would
come
forward
and
do
it.
So
it's
it's
a,
I
think,
a
delicate
balance
to
get
a
developer.
A
To
be
able
to
do
affordable
apartments,
because
it's
it's
a
lot,
it's
expensive
and
it's
also
a
lot
to
manage,
and
so
I
think
the
city
needs
to
look
at
it
more
and
I
think
when
they
did
the
feed
in
lieu
there
was
a
crisis
in
terms
of
a
major
need
for
apartments.
A
So
it's
something
that
needs
to
help
hopefully
be
looked
at,
and
I
don't
think
there's
really
an
easy
solution,
because
if
we
go
ahead
and
go
back
to
the
way
it
was
then
you
know
there'll
be
a
crisis
of
no
new
apartments
being
built.
If
it's
not
done
appropriately,
because
people
developers
build
to
make
money
not
to
subsidize
housing
needs
of
the
community.
That's
where
government
needs
to
come
in.
F
Now
I
agree
madam
chair,
and-
and
I
might,
I
would
only
suggest
that
we
take
that.
We
remember
that
this
in
lua
formula
isn't
quite
hitting
the
mark,
and
my
general
opinion
is
that
we
need
to
approach
it
with
a
scalpel
and
not
a
sledgehammer
right
like
this.
There's
a
lot
of
nuances
attached
to
it,
but
that
the
what
led
to
in
lieu
of
there
were
other
things
happening
outside
of
just
not
apartments
being
built.
F
There
was
a
recession,
there
was
a
whole
bunch
of
things
happening
and
a
lot
of
the
apartments
had
been
converted
to
condominiums,
so
it's
a
little
more
complicated
than
developers,
just
not
wanting
to
build
for
just
not
choosing
to
build
affordable,
and
we
we're
kind
of
in
that
situation
now,
and
I
recognize
that.
But
this
is
something
that's
going
to
be.
F
My
new
soapbox
is
that
we
really
need
to
start
looking
at
the
formulas
we're
using
to
achieve
our
affordable
housing
goals
are
not
hitting
the
mark,
and
so
we
need
to
work
with
the
developers
and
with
the
city
to
come
up
with
a
plan.
I
mean
we're
we're
in
this
together
and
the
community
needs
to
be
involved
as
well,
and
I'm
just
I'm
just
going
to
raise
it
every
so
often
to
remind
ourselves
that
that
you
know
we're
not
hitting
the
mark.
We're
not
even
close
well.
A
J
I'm
sure
I
just
want
to
note
that
for
the
record
that
I
concur
with
what
the
commissioner
is
saying,
what
you're
saying
and.
D
J
P
G
Thank
you
chair,
and
I
would
say
that
I
appreciate
this
conversation
and
I
also
agree
with
the
sentiments
that
have
been
expressed.
I
did
want
to
ask
the
developer
team
another
question
or
two
that
are
that
came
out
of
the
public
comment
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
had
considered
find
out.
If
you
had
any
thoughts
about
it
it.
G
It
seemed
to
me
that
one
of
the
biggest
public
comments
that
we
heard
about
that
was
that
was
directly
related
to
this
development
was
the
possibility
of
overflow
parking
and
if
you
have
residents,
who
are
unable
to
find
a
spot
within
your
property,
I
was
wondering
if
you
had
considered
that
planned,
for
it
done
any
analysis
of
it.
If
you
could
speak
to
that
at
all.
P
P
Have
considered
this
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
is
different
about
our
complex
versus
santiara
and
what
mr
trulecki
was
talking
about
is
that
all
his
units
are
two
and
three
bedrooms.
55
percent
of
ours
are
single
bedrooms.
It's
a
different
mix,
it's
a
different
requirement.
P
P
We've
talked
about.
We
could
enforce
the
parking.
We
could
be
part
of
that
group
that
caused
the
police
and
does
not
allow
parking
on
camino,
huiana
and
agua.
But
then
you
know
neighbors
are
saying
well.
That
means
that
you
just
make
them
park
along
our
street
where
it
is
allowed,
and
we
don't
want
them
here.
So
I
don't.
I
don't.
I
feel
like
we're
a
little
bit
in
a
no-win
situation,
no
matter
what
we
offer,
no
matter,
what
we
try
to
do,
we
get
pushed
back,
it
doesn't
work,
it
can't
be
done.
P
I
still
stand
by
my
original
premise.
This
is
a
good
project.
It's
a
good
project
for
the
city
of
santa
fe.
We
need
more
houses,
we
need
more,
more
rent
market
rate
units.
Just
like
we
desperately
need
more
affordable.
You
just
happen
to
be
doing
a
market
rate.
This
time
the
same
group
was
looking
at
another
project
that
will
likely
be
affordable.
P
So
you
know
it's
not.
I
do
agree
with
mr
faulkner
that
you
know
it's
a
difficult
issue,
but
until
the
codes
change
and
things
are
addressed,
we
have
to
work
within
the
rules
that
we
have
that's
all
we
can
get
going,
and
I
also
would
say
that
you
know
the
four
hundred
thirty
eight
thousand
dollars
is
meaningful.
P
G
Thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
it
and
I
recognize
it
is
a
difficult
issue
when
you
are
already
providing
more
parking
than
you
need
to.
My
own
comment
is,
I
do
think
there
is
a
lot
to
like
about
this
project.
The
proposed
walkability
of
the
area
that
you're
adding-
and
I
do
always
agree
that
in
general
there
is
a
need
to
support
more
market
rate
housing
in
order
to
address
our
housing
needs.
G
B
V
Tony
miller,
3471
cerrios
road,
I'm
part
of
the
entitlement
crew
working
on
this
project
and
part
of
the
package
that
you
have
to
do
is
you-
do
have
to
reach
out
to
the
schools
and
have
them
state
which
schools
are
the
the
public
schools
that
would
be
utilized
by
the
residences
of
this
project.
Do
they
speak
to
whether
they
can
handle
it
or
not?
That's
not.
I
guess
I
don't
know
that
they
have
a
comment
on
that.
They
just
state
clearly
which
public
schools
would
facilitate.
G
D
G
A
A
Okay,
so
are
we
ready
to
proceed
with
a
motion.
G
F
A
We
have
the
roll
call
vote.
Please.
I
I
D
B
A
G
X
Your
cloud
yeah,
commissioner
lawrence,
thank
you
for
asking
yeah.
So
with
the
chapter
14
update,
I
know
we're
getting
very,
very
close
to
signing
the
contract
with
our
chosen
contractor
there
and
with
regard
to
the
general
plan
update.
X
Maybe
we
are
working
internally
kind
of
at
a
meeting
with
the
city
manager
and
rich
brown
this
week
to
present
some
of
our
initial
ideas
working
on
a
scope
of
work,
all
internal
work
and
we've
laid
out
a
little
bit
of
an
outreach
to
internal,
like
the
policy
subcommittee,
will
be
reaching
out
to
to
have
a
meeting
of
the
planning
commission,
as
well
as
the
governing
body
members
individually
by
district.
E
Madam
chair,
in
the
in
the
code
update,
unfortunately,
it
won't
because
that's
chapter
26
not
14.,
so
I
I
think
that
that
is
something
that
alexander
land
is
aware
of.
Of
course,
in
the
general
plan
it
will
be
considered.
D
J
J
J
D
A
The
other
issues
in
terms
of
the
you
know
the
rewrite
of
chapter
14
and
also
the
general
looking
at
the
general
plan.
E
E
Plan,
you
know
initiative
short
of
a
again
an
update
to
chapter
26
but
yeah.
I
think
we
should
definitely
consider
it
and,
as
you
all
know,
we
have
many
many.
You
know
initiatives
and.
E
There's
no
current
activity
on
initiative
related
to
that.
But
yes,
it's
definitely.
K
E
Everyone's
mind
and
we
do
plan
on
you-
know,
making
strategic
changes
to
chapter
14
that
will
affect
affordable
housing.
But
it's
not
it's
not
the
affordable
housing
code.
But
it's
you
know
the
myriad.
D
E
E
V
E
E
As
we
heard
today,
you
know
the
way
the
code
is
set
up.
It
is
performance
based
right
now,
so
you
know
that's
definitely
some
you
know
a
place
that
we
can
look
at.