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I
think
it
was
this
morning
by
miss
pasula,
which
were
the
minutes
as
well
as
uh
some
other
documentation.
Regarding
some
of
the
resolutions,
I
think
that
are
in
the
packet,
so
hope
everyone
had
a
chance
to
look
at
those
uh
with
that
uh
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
uh
Any
changes
from
you,
mr
romero,.
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All
right
public
comment
section
is
closed.
Now,
with
regards
to
the
uh
presentation
I
was
told,
it
would
take
five
minutes
so
we'll
hold
you
to
that
mr
del
mar
and
then
uh
we'll
give
about
five
minutes
for
any
questions
as
well.
So
mr
del
mar
go
ahead
and
if
you
have
any
content
to
share-
or
if
you
just
want
to
verbalize
your
presentation,
the
floor
is
yours.
M
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I've
got
a
presentation
here
that
um
I
will
go
through
very
quickly.
It
typically
is
a
little
more
than
five
minutes,
but
I'm
happy
to
to
trim
it
down
um
just
a
quick
introduction.
My
name
is
john
del
mar
I'm
an
engineer
with
the
water
division.
I
started
just
in
february
and
I
wanted
to
share
some
of
the
improvements
we've
made
to
the
water
reuse
system
within
the
uh
the
effluent
reuse
in
the
city.
Let
me
just
fire
this
up.
M
Can
everybody
see
my
screen?
Yes,
okay,
just
a
quick
background.
um
The
paseo
rail
plant
is
currently
serving
eight
effluent.
Users,
uh
marty
sanchez
mrc
swan
park
and
the
standpipe
there
at
the
uh
the
sailrial
plant
are
all
what
we
could
categorize
as
direct
city
use
and
then
a
different
additional
users
like
the
country
club
and
the
downs,
maintain
and
monitor
their
own
infrastructure,
but
they
they
take
the
same
effluent
um
during
the
summer
months.
M
M
M
M
This
is
the
month
of
june
and
you
can
see
even
in
the
month
of
june,
I'm
sorry.
We
have
total
inflow
of
the
plant,
roughly
5
million
gallons
a
day,
so
the
difference
between
this
usage
and
the
inflow
would
be
what
is
going
down
the
river,
so
you
can
kind
of
get
a
feel
for
what's
left
on
any
given
day.
M
Their
on-site
storage
might
last
for
about
a
week,
depending
on
reservoir
levels,
usage
and
weather,
very
various
factors,
so
that
sort
of
drove
us
to
the
improvements
that
we've
been
making
over
the
last
four
months
or
so
um
here's
again
the
map,
um
basically
four
main
items
starting
at
the
upper
left.
We've
got
uh
dual
fire
hydrants
on
wildlife
way
I'll
kind
of
detail
each
one
of
these
quickly.
M
So
the
dual
fire
hydrants
have
been
installed,
they're
fully
operational.
It
allows
uh
direct
transfer
of
potable
water
from
a
pressurized
potable
hydrant
to
a
non-pressurized
effluent.
Hydrant
um
anytime,
you
make
a
connection
like
that.
You
need
a
very
robust
backflow
prevention
system,
which
we
have.
M
A
E
M
M
If
you
went
for
the
direct
connect
with
the
backflow
prevention
still
very
robust,
you
could
keep
uh
marty
sanchez
open
and
mrc
open
with
that
one
million
gallons
a
day
under
most
conditions,
um
lost
components,
pump,
helps
improvements.
This
sort
of
captures
all
the
improvements
that
need
to
be
made
to
the
pump
station
tank
and
pipeline
that
we
recently
acquired.
This
work
is
in
progress.
We
hope
to
have
it
finished
this
fall.
M
um
The
interconnections
is
really
where
it
gets
a
little
more
interesting.
There
were
two
interconnections:
one
is
up
at
las
companus,
where
they
interconnected
the
existing
pipeline
to
their
storage
ponds
and
irrigation
systems
which
wasn't
previously
done,
and
they
did
all
that
their
own
investment
150
000
roughly
for
their
improvements.
They
sort
of.
Did
that
in
parallel,
we
invested
about
20
000
in
an
interconnection
between
the
two
pipelines
there
at
um
across
from
wildlife
way,
and
what's
interesting
here
is
that
this
is
a
now
allows
us
to
do
bi-directional
flow.
M
We
can
actually
use
a
pump
station
atlas,
componis
pump
again
back
over
the
high
point
through
the
interconnection
and
to
the
mrc
and
marty
pons
or
down
the
pipeline
to
swan
park.
So
we
tested
both
of
those
systems
using
existing
infrastructure.
We
can
deliver
about
two
and
a
half
million
gallons
a
day
to
lost
components,
and
we
can
get
about
1.4
million
gallons
a
day
from
las
companus
potential.
Next
steps,
we've
got
corolla
engineering,
writing
a
report,
that's
evaluating
some
secondary
treatment
options
and
some
additional
connections
at
the
paseo
real
plant.
M
We
can
induce
some
improvements
to
our
water,
accounting
and
management,
basically
understanding
what
we
have
at
any
given
time
what
can
be
delivered
and
what
needs
to
be
saved
for
the
river
updating
and
reviewing
our
discharge
permits,
documenting
our
operational
strategies
and
procedures
and
making
sure
everybody
is
properly
trained
on
those
of
course,
completing
the
los
companis
pump
station
improvements
and
then
in
future.
If
you
know,
if
there's
a
return
flow
pipeline,
that
of
course
will
impact
this
system
as
well,
and
hopefully
that
was
five
minutes.
I'd
like
to
open
it
up
to
any
questions.
I
Yeah,
could
you
go
back
to
uh
it
was
approximately
uh
page
three.
If
you
scoot
up
through
your
deck
there
I'd
be
able
to
tell
whoa
whoa
whoa.
Let's
see
it
is
page
five.
Could
you
go
to
page
five,
please
I
I
wasn't
I'm
just
trying
to
um
why
in
june
of
20,
why
is
the
santa
fe
country
club
using
so
much
effluent
and
marty
sanchez
is
using
none?
M
M
M
I
guess
I
can't
answer
why
the
country
why
marty
sanchez
would
not
have
been
using
water
on
those
days,
um
it's
possible
that
um
either
you
know
their
system
monitoring
system
might
have
been
down
those
days.
um
It's
also
possible
that
they
just
didn't
water
those
days,
although
I
think
that's
unlikely.
A
M
M
um
The
the
the
standpipe
is
also
not
um
does
not
benefit.
Although
that's
one
of
the
options
that's
being
considered
is
to
do
another
interconnection
where
that
two
million
gallon
tank
could
go
to
the
standpipe,
but
these
other
four
users
do
not
benefit
from
the
reuse.
Improvements
we've
been
doing
this
summer.
M
um
I
think
it
would
be
possible
to
maybe
do
an
interconnection
to
that
two
million
gallon
tank,
because
it's
all
the
infrastructure
is
all
located
there
at
paseo.
Real
to
get
the
other
sources
like
from
los
companus
would
be
a
little
more
challenging
because
the
you
know
just
the
relative
locations
um
that
hasn't
really
been
on
the
drawing
board
and
neither
has
really
adding
it.
The
two
million
gallon
tank,
though
it
could
be
considered.
A
M
L
M
Yes,
mr
chair
uh
councillor,
beta
right
now,
if
the
plant
were
to
go
down-
and
I
assume
you're
talking
about
marty
sanchez-
we
have
two
possible
backups.
One
would
be
the
um
water
transfer
from
the
los
campanus
ponds,
the
raw
water
and
then
the
second
would
be
potable.
Both
of
those
are
operational
at
this.
L
Time,
okay
and
they
weren't
operational
a
few
months
ago,
and
that's
why
uh
we
kept
calling
mr
jones
and
asking
him
when
he
was
gonna,
get
the
the
plan
back
up
and
running.
Yes,
sir
correct
great.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and
I
I
need
to
uh
give
a
shout
out
to
mr
jones
for
getting
this
done
because,
like
I
said
we
would
get
calls
and
then
we
would
start
emailing
and
calling
him,
and
so
I
appreciate
that
we
got
this
taken
care
of.
Thank
you.
A
All
right,
I
see
none.
I
also
wanted
to
thank
mr
jones,
mr
delmar,
uh
both
of
your
teams
um
again
for
getting
this
done
uh
very
important.
I
think
to
the
health
of
our
fields
and
um
really
such
a
huge
asset
and
and
the
cost
of
having
to
replace
uh
a
green
was
a
little
surprising
to
me.
So
uh
thank
you
for
getting.
This
done
really
do
appreciate
it.
A
J
Good
evening
uh
mr
chair
uh
councilor,
uh
the
hill
coupler,
um
so
for
the
cost,
sharing
there's
not
a
cost
sharing.
um
Currently
um
in
the
poe
contract,
there
is
a
car
plan
that
is
uh
agreed
upon
by
both
the
city
and
the
poe,
and
as
for
the
cost
for
commuting,
we
could
look
at
seeing
what
the
cost
is
for
commuting.
J
There
was
a
snapshot
that
was
provided
during
the
budget
process
to
kind
of
give
a
snapshot
of
those
that
live
in
the
city
versus
those
that
commute
from
outside
the
city
within
the
authorized
take
home
distance,
um
but
um
the
numbers
right
now
for
that
cost
we'd
have
to
get
those
compiled
and
have
to
follow
up
with
that.
A
later
time.
H
J
Mr
chair
counselor
hill
coupler,
uh
we
can
start
getting
the
information
put
together.
um
One
of
the
factors
I
know
that's
going
to
be
difficult
for
us
to
do
is
to
determine.
uh
Did
the
employee
commute
all
four
days?
Do
they
have
a
five-day
work
week
and
that's
where
we
do
that
snapshot
to
see
what
it
looked
like
and
we'll
have
to
take
into
account
um
if
they
worked
an
extra
duty
day,
like
a
a
fifth
day
on
overtime,
to
kind
of
see
what
that
cost
is
looking
like.
J
So
we
can
start
looking
at
that
and
working
diligently
to
put
that
together
and
we
can
provide
that
because
I
know
that's
a
question.
Everyone
has
and
something
else
that
we
are
also
looking
at,
because
we
do
know
that
the
fuel
cost
is
a
significant
cost,
um
we'll
be
coming
forward
to
this
committee
finance
and
the
governing
body
with
some
vehicles
moving
forward
and
with
those
vehicles.
J
um
Ford
currently
offers
a
pursuit
rated
vehicle,
that
is,
a
hybrid
which
has
a
significant
fuel
saving
cost
and
when
the
vehicle
is
at
idle,
it
actually
goes
over
to
the
battery
and
it
can
utilize
that.
So
that's
helpful.
If
they're
on
a
scene,
if
they're
on
a
traffic
stop
or
if
the
vehicle
is
there
while
they're
doing
paperwork,
so
we
are
conscious
of
that.
We're
looking
at
that
as
a
cost
savings
and
um
based
on
the
initial
data
we're
seeing
from
the
vehicle
and
the
cost
savings
that
we
could
realize
is
really
significant.
H
um
Thank
you.
uh
Let
me
let
me
go
back
to
your
you
know.
You
did
a
very
well
thought
out
uh
formula
for
how
you
would
figure
out
what
the
cost
is
per
officer
and
such
and
and
I'm
primarily
thinking
of
maybe
just
a
a
real,
a
simple
formula
like
you
know
what
officers
live
out
of
santa
fe?
uh
How
many
miles
round
trip
is
that
and
then
you
know
per
you
know
how
many
officers-
and
I
know
they
live
in
different
places.
H
So
just
you
know
that
kind
of
miles
round
trip
and
then
just
what's
the
average
price
per
gallon
and
multiply
that
out.
That's
about
all,
I
think
it
would
take
for
my
satisfaction,
not
necessarily
going
you
know,
officer
to
officer
and
what
shifts
they
work.
That's
that's
way
monumental
and
and
it's
not
at
all,
I
think
a
good
use
of
time,
but
a
more
simple,
simple
formula
would
be,
I
think,
satisfactory
to
me.
J
E
E
I
N
um
So
there
will
be
uh
it's
about
eighty
four
thousand
dollars
for
one
of
the
upgrades,
which
would
have
been
from
um
pnm's
bill
billing
system
to
um
at
the
time
the
original
billing
system
that
the
utilities
had.
uh
Then
we
have
about
forty
five
thousand
dollars
for
the
write-off.
From
the
what
I
call
the
second
system,
which
is
what
utility
billing
had
um
in
end
of
1999
into
2000,
uh
and
then
there
will
be
uh
accounts
from
2000
um
all
the
way
through
2016..
N
I
N
N
I
would
say
with
these
I
would
say,
with
these
accounts
unfortunately
counselor:
no,
why
do
we?
Why
do
we
take
the
time
to
uh
keep
the
liens?
Well?
No,
the
liens
are
a
little
bit
different,
so
the
liens,
I
do
believe
we
collect
those
if
and
whenever
the
land
or
the
house
sells
correct.
um
So
so
definitely
I
think
we
do
need
to
leave
the
liens
on.
N
On
a
lien
or
on
an
account
uh
on
a
lien
right
now
on
a
lien
right
now
uh
we
do
have
one
account:
that's
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
We
could
subtract
out
finance
charges
with
that,
so
it
would
probably
get
it
down
to
about
eighty
thousand.
Why
would
we
subtract
out
finance
charges
uh
again?
That
would
be
an
option
to
try
and
help
out
the
you
know
the
owner.
I
I
see
on
here
that
you
know
um
we
have
uh
policies
for
um
you
know
when
a
property
sells
and
um
that
there's
an
account
receivable
on
it
and
I'm
sure
that
that
goes
through
a
title
company,
but
I
think
that
we
probably
need
to
and
um
shannon.
I
think,
that's
probably
up
to
you
to
lead
that
um
review
of
what
our
real
true
policies
and
procedures
are
on
collecting
these
monies
that
are
owed
to
us.
I
I
I'm
concerned
at
the
amount
of
money
that
we
write
off,
even
though
I
see
here
that
you
know
what
we
write
off
is
lower
than
the
national
standard.
um
We
don't
really
have
any
money
right
now
uh
to
write
off,
so
I
think
it's
something
that
we
need
to
review
and
to
put
some
time
into
because
we're
talking
about
real
money
here,
we're
talking
about
millions
of
dollars
every
time
this
comes
uh
toward
us
so
chair,
that's
a
suggestion
that
I
have.
G
uh
Mr
chair,
thank
you
councilman.
um
I
do
appreciate
um
the
discussion
that
you're
having.
um
I
would
just
point
out
that
against
nancy
alluded
to
the
write-off
um
does
go
back
four
years
and
if
you'll
remember,
um
I
feel
uh
we
had
some
very
constructive
conversations
and
um
and
direction
from
the
governing
body
when
we
did
the
last
write-off
and
and
hearing
counselor
lindell
that
resonates
with
me.
G
G
So
a
lot
of
the
write-offs
that
we're
doing
now
is
still
remnants
of.
I
would
say
this
landlord-tenant
issue
that
we
had
that.
I
feel
that
we've
put
aggressive
measures
in
place,
we'll
continue
to
look
at
them
and
open
to
conversations
about
how
we
do
that
business.
um
But
that's
um
that's
just
what
I
wanted
to
add
was
was
the
tenant
part
which
plays
a
major
role
in
the
accounts?
Receivable?
G
Also,
not
writing
off
the
amount.
um
I
do
agree.
We
do
have
aggressive
collective
measures,
but
what
is
being
written
off
is
what
we
have
determined
is
like
this
is
non-collectible
and
keeping
it
on
our
books
doesn't
make
it
real
money
to
us
um
or
to
the
city
and
and
so
by
getting
the
write-off
and
having
a
clean.
um
You
know:
clean
fiscal
slate
um
is
actually
a
better
path
forward
for
the
utilities
having
sound
policies
and
procedures.
G
H
Thank
you
chair.
um
I
agree
this
this.
This
whole
matter
needs
some
discussion
uh
just
overall
and
maybe
policy
making
or
whatever,
but
um
back
to
the
write-offs.
I
recall
uh
when
karen
fiorina
was
still
here.
We
we
did
a
major
write-off
then,
and
I,
and
that
was
after
2017-
and
I
don't
know
ms
jimenez,
if
you
uh
I,
I
know
you
weren't
in
the
position,
but
uh
am
I
am.
Am
I
recalling
that
correctly
um
yeah,
a
counselor.
H
So
uh
I'm
just
concerned
that
we're
missing
a
piece
of
write-off
here
which
doesn't
really
I
mean
it
just
means
that
there's
more
money
that
we've
written
off.
It
doesn't
really
add
a
whole
lot
to
my
to
this
issue.
uh
But
you
might
check
that
because
I
know
we
did
that,
but
is.
Are
these
write-offs,
inclusive
of
refuse,
sewer
and
water
or
or
is
it
anything?
H
Is
it
all
of
that?
It
is
all
of
that
in
including
uh
stormwater,
if
there's
any
stormwater
still
out
there.
Okay,
um
so
I
don't
well
getting
back
to
uh
shannon
jones's
answer.
I
I
don't
think
we
file
liens,
but
you
know,
I
think,
that's
part
of
the
overall
discussion
we
need
to
have
because,
as
a
realtor
um
I
haven't
seen
any
liens
at
closing.
I've
seen
money
due,
but
I
haven't
seen
any
liens
specifically
and
sometimes
the
buyer
is
shocked
and
so
they're
so
far
into
the
deal
that
they
may
agree
to
pay.
H
N
H
H
H
H
It
still
owes
the
same
money
he
already
paid
to
the
homeowner,
so
those
disputes
too,
and
um
it
just
seems
like
we
could,
along
with
council
dell's
suggestion
wholeheartedly
agree.
We
need
a
whole
discussion
about
this.
It
just
seems
like
we
could
make
uh
our
our
collections
easier.
If
we
knock
out
that
one
middle
person
and
do
have
the
homeowners
responsible
for
water
it
to
me,
it
just
makes
a
lot
more
sense.
N
um
The
counselors
approved
the
release
of
liability
to
allow
the
tenants
to
have
that
in
their
name,
and
um
so
I
I
agree
that
albuquerque
did
not
allow
that
change
and
owners
are
responsible
for
the
utility.
However,
the
city
of
santa
fe
did
not
stay
on
that
um
stance
and
they
did
allow
or
did
give
us
direction
in
utilities
to
allow
the
owner
to
release
the
liability
to
tenants
and
that's
unfortunately,
kind
of
where
we're
at
right
now
is
in
2017
when
we
brought
it
forward.
N
um
You
know
these
are
the.
These
are
the
issues
that
we
have
found
now
that
the
owner
was
allowed
to
release
the
liability,
and
at
this
point,
because
we,
the
city
of
santa
fe,
allowed
the
release
of
liability
from
the
owner
to
the
tenant.
There
is
not
a
way,
my
understanding
um
to
go
back
and
um
always
leave
it
in
the
owner's
name
for
utilities,
because
we
have
expanded
that
and
let
the
tenants
you
know,
get
the
utility
in
their
name,
or
at
least
that's
the
understanding
of
state
law
and
marcos.
N
H
Okay,
well,
um
I'm
I'm
sure,
that's
something
that
maybe
can
be
brought
forward
and
discussed
and
maybe
resolved
in
some
way.
um
You
know
in
my
experience
in
santa
fe
too,
back
in
the
day
I
was
also,
uh
I
also
was
a
landlord
here
and
then
the
water
had
to
be
put
in
my
name.
So
um
I
mean
you
trust
people,
but
I
guess
you
can
only
trust
tenants
so
much
because
lives,
change
and
and
their
circumstances
change.
H
H
N
N
Are
we
going
to
make
them
go
on
a
payment
plan?
Are
they
you
know
there
there's
so
many
different
options
that
we
potentially
can
look
into?
um
That
is
is
just
kind
of
the
next
steps
that
we've
got
to
look
at.
Is
this
two
months
out?
Is
this
six
months
out?
Is
this
two
years
out?
um
You
know
dealing
with
kovid
and
not
turning
water
off,
and
I
mean
there's
just
so
many
what-ifs
um
that
I
I
think
it's
mindling.
N
H
You
know
I
I
happen
to
call
the
utility
companies
uh
for
my
albuquerque
property
today
and
while
I
was
on
hold
uh
the
message,
I
don't,
I
think
it
was
the
gas
company,
I'm
not
sure
it
could
have
been
pnm.
I
think
it
was
a
gas
company
anyway,
they
said
you
know,
while
you're
holding
is,
would
you
like
to?
Would
you
would
you
be
um
inclined
to
offer
a
payment
for
someone's
gas
bill?
You
know
as
a
gift.
H
H
N
N
H
H
Maybe
that's
something
we
can
ponder
at
that
time,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
need
something
or
we
should
be
planning
something
to
try
to
help
these
ratepayers
out
of
this
covid
mess
that
that
we're
all
in,
but
that
they
particularly
find
themselves
in.
I
think
it's
you
know
a
good
neighborly
gesture.
A
G
E
E
They've
got
a
fifteen
hundred
dollar
two
thousand
dollar
bill
which
puts
them
in
a
worse
predicament,
and
I
think
we've
really
got
to
start
looking
at.
If
we're
going
to
start
offering
payment
plans
to
be
counselor
b
hill,
couplers
comments,
you
know,
do
we
start
looking
at
how
we
can
ask
our
fellow
community
members
to
help
one
another
out
similar
to
the
way
we
did
when
um
you
know
when
we
had
to,
unfortunately
furlough
some
city
employees
earlier
this
year,
and
there
was
that
fund
that
we
put
together
to
help
out
the
employees?
E
And
I
think
you
know,
because
this
is
right
in
the
same
vein
of
counselor
v
hill
koppler's,
point
of
um
you
know
it's
unfortunate
back
in
2004
there
was
the
decision
to
not
keep
those
utility
bills,
at
least
the
water
bill
and
the
homeowner's
name.
Because
now
what
happens
is
um
the
any
outstanding
payments
the
city
gets
stuck
with
and
we
there's
no
kind
of
no
recourse,
whereas
if
it's
with
the
homeowner
there's
at
least
some
type
of
recourse,
we
can
look
at.
N
H
G
uh
Yes,
mr
chair,
thank
you.
um
I
feel
like
maybe
there's
just
a
miscommunication.
um
So
what
put
that
in
place
uh
was
the
city
council,
and
um
so
I
do
believe
that
and
we
can
defer
to
the
city
attorney
I
work
to
that
they
can
make
that
change
going
forward.
I
think
where
we're
misunderstanding
is
the
city
council
can't
change
something
now
and
then
I
go
back
on
somebody
for
12
years
of
back
owed.
G
We
can
only
do
what
we
go
forward
and
I
think
the
council
does
have
that
ability
to
to
change
going
forward.
Okay,
I
also
want
to
point
out
um
just
so:
it's
not
lost
in
the
discussion
uh
because
again
I
did
have
the
the
I
was
afforded
the
the
involvement
as
we
went
through
this
last
write-off,
when
we
did
make
policy
changes.
This
was
part
of
the
discussion.
G
um
As
we
were
going
forward
uh
it's
very
easily.
I
could
see
how
this
becomes
a
right,
a
point
of
issue,
it's
it's
ingrained
in
the
numbers
and-
and
it
seemed
like
through
that
conversation
how
we
evolved
was
um
so
again
prior
to
that
write-off
um
released
a
liability.
The
accounts
went
into
the
tenant's
name,
because
there
was
prob
problems
with
that.
There
was
discussion
about
removing
that
at
the
time
and
I
believe
where
we
ended
up
landing.
G
What
we
look
like
today
is,
we
do
have
accounts
where
landlords
have
accounts
and
tenants
names
and
they're
not
problematic.
The
tenants
pay
their
bills,
then
there's
not
an
issue,
and
so
therefore
we
allow
those
to
remain
where
the
point
of
contention
comes.
Now
is
um
if
historically
or
there's,
multiple
offenses,
where
a
landlord-tenant
relationship
is
um
is
severed
and
the
tenant
leaves
the
city
kind
of
stuck
with
this
accounts
payable
and
the
landlord
saying.
Well,
it's
not
mine.
Is
we
no
longer
allow
that
landlord
to
put
future
tenants
in
the
tennis
name?
G
G
um
I
guess
what
I
would
say
is
where
we're
at
now
is
either
the
landlord
has
to
make
the
city
whole
or
we
don't
allow
future
transfers
into
the
tenant's
name.
That
account
has
to
stay
with
the
landlord
um
and
that's
been
a
since
we've
put
that
in
place.
That
has
been
a
point
of
contention
for
the
utility.
I've
said
in
multiple
meetings
with
multiple
landlords
um
who
I'm
sorry,
who
despised
that,
but
there's
a
reason
why
the
governing
body,
I
think,
provided
that
direction
and
why
our
business
looks
like
it
is
today.
E
Okay,
so
so
thank
you,
mr
jones.
I
appreciate
that.
So
what
you
kind
of
said
is
that
and
to
get
back
to
the
2004
ordinance
is
that
we
could
possibly
go
back
on
that,
but
we
couldn't
make
it
retroactive,
which
I
understand
we
couldn't
do,
but
we
could
we
could
go
back
and
change
that
2004
ordinance
is
what
I
thought
I
heard
you
say.
E
Right
that-
and
that
was
my
thoughts,
but
I
just
you
know,
I'm
not
the
city
attorney
and
that's
where
get
discussion
from
marcos
and
maybe
miss
mcsherry
could
possibly
elaborate
on
that.
I
know
she
doesn't
have
too
much
history
on
this
particular
matter,
but
maybe
just
just
kind
of
off
the
top.
Would
that
be
possible?
Ms
mcsharry.
O
Chairman
rivera
counselor,
garcia,
I
think
prospectively,
that
makes
a
lot
more
sense,
but
you're
right.
I
wasn't
here
in
2004,
so
I
don't
know
the
full
background,
but
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
We
already
set
up
responsibilities.
We
won't
be
able
to
change
those
going
backwards
generally,
but
going
forward
certainly
should
be
an
option.
N
E
Okay,
let
me
finish
my
my
point
of
train
of
thought
and
then
we'll
get
back
to
that
yeah.
You
know
and
the
only
reason
I
would
look
at
us,
possibly
reverting
that
2004
ordinance
is,
I
mean
we're
we're
riding
off
millions
of
dollars.
As
councillor
lindell
said,
I
mean
those
resources
can
be
invested
in
affordable
housing
towards
our
seniors
towards
our
youth.
E
N
My
apologies
too
so
right
now,
um
anticipation-
and
this
is
this-
is
still
getting
finalized
um
from
1999
forward
through
2016
estimated
is
about
740
000
dollars
to
be
requested
um
as
a
write-off,
and
what
we're
finding
is
anywhere
between
68-73
is
usually
tenants,
uh
which
is
about
518
000.
If
I
do
70
percent
um
and
again
these
are
just
rough
numbers,
um
but
that
would
be
um
you
know,
a
significant
amount
of
um
proof.
I
guess
you
could
say
of
what
we
go
through,
unfortunately,
with
with
tenants.
E
L
Beta.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
members
of
the
governing
body
that
we
have
a
connect
program
with
community
services
and
one
of
their
their
charges
is
to
assist
residents
when
it
comes
to
not
only
housing
but
utility
issues
they
may
be
having,
and
so
before.
We
go
off
and
start
recommending
that
we
include
this
in
a
bill
or
this
on
a
on
when
somebody's
on
hold.
Maybe
what
we
do
need
to
do
is
uh
talk
more
about
the
connect
program
and
the
different
services
that
that
provides.
A
A
A
I
I
F
um
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
um
we,
this
past
couple
weeks,
we've
been
working
uh
primarily
with
the
the
list
from
last
uh
last
year.
Updating
the
numbers
in
in
these
projects,
so
we're
still
working
on
that
um
updating.
Cost
estimates
thing
like
things
like
that.
So
as
we
move
on
through
finance
and
council,
some
of
the
numbers
within
these
projects
may
change
a
bit
and
it's
more
just
uh
nailing
down
exactly
how
much
we
have
in
each
of
these
projects,
as
well
as
uh
what
the
total
project
cost.
F
Secondly,
what
council
rivera
um
explained
is
to
um
start
discussions
and
gain
a
consensus
on
the
top
five
uh
priorities
within
the
list.
If
I
can,
um
I
I'll
uh
show
you
what
those
are
right
now.
I
know
those
were
sent
to
you,
but
just
if
I
could
share
my
screen
just
so,
we
can
look
at
them,
the
top
five
uh
that
we
have
right
now
and
this
is
different
than
what
was
presented
last
year.
F
So
this
is
after
meeting
with
uh
the
city
manager
and
the
mayor
to
to
kind
of
give
it
our
first
brush
um
to
uh
provide
our
our
top
five
and
then
again
discuss
it
um
backing
up.
If
I
may
uh
counselor,
I
do
want
to
answer
some
questions
that
were
uh
brought
up
at
the
um
at
the
last
public
works
committee.
Meeting
it'll
help
us
provide
context
for
for
these
decisions
uh
moving
forward.
F
um
That
includes
money
that
goes
towards
city
priorities
as
well
as
money
that
goes
to
the
district
priorities
um
to
understand
what
that
split
will
be
between
district
and
uh
city
priorities.
You
know
it's,
we
don't
have
that
exact
number,
although
definitely
more
money
goes
towards
the
city
priorities.
Typically,
in
my
experience
here
during
lean
times,
district
priorities
will
receive
anywhere
from
25
000
to
maybe
a
hundred
thousand,
but
typically
they're
down
in
the
25
to
50
000
range.
F
In
my
experience
um
so
with
that
being
said,
you
know
I
think,
as
far
as
city
priorities,
um
depending
on
which
ones
we
we
move
forward,
there's
a
good
likeliness
that,
maybe
only
maybe
our
top
two
priorities
would
be
funded
again,
depending
on
on
how
we
establish
those
priorities,
um
there
was
a
question
about:
can.
um
Can
we
seek
money
for
utility
improvements?
F
um
The
answer
is
yes,
although
uh
through
mark's
experience,
um
that's
never
really
been
terribly
successful.
uh
People
have
not
been
successful
in
receiving
money
for
those
type
of
purposes,
but
it
is
eligible
and
can
be
uh
lobbied
for
if,
if
that
is
the
the
desire
of
the
council
one
second,
I'm
going
through
my
notes
here.
F
We
um
you
guys
also
did
ask
us
to
come
up
with
a
uh
a
list
that
shows
by
district
as
well
as
how
much
money
we've
had
thus
far,
and
I
um
we
are
working
on
that.
I
didn't
want
to
present
it
quite
yet,
because
um
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
had
not
only
the
districts
right,
but
the
numbers
right
in
that
in
that
presentation,
I'm
hoping
to
have
that
ready
by
finance,
but
I
can
definitely
go
over
the
districts
and
the
funding
that's
been
acquired
for
at
least
the
top
five
priorities.
F
As
far
as
um
as
themes
you
know
they're,
I
I
personally
think
that
you
know
definitely
covet
is
going
to
be
a
theme
and
I
think,
being
able
to
have
um
as
well
as
as
well
as
what
the
new
norm
will
be.
Coming
out
of.
Kovid
might
be
a
theme
of
what
kind
of
priorities
we
would
like
to
look
at.
um
So
with
that
in
mind,
as
well
as
when
this
money
is
available
again,
um
this
money
would
be
available
to
spend
roughly
a
year
after
it's
appropriated
by
the
legislature
roughly
or
a
year
after.
F
The
legislative
session
starts
so
roughly
january
of
so
keeping
that
in
mind,
this
is
the
logic
behind
these
top
five
priorities:
uh
the
south
side
teen
center.
um
It
um
it's
already
received
legislative
funds
today.
The
number
that
I
have
that
we've
received
thus
far
is
uh
five
million
uh
ten
thousand
dollars,
and
so
um
we,
um
I
know
uh
the
uh
this
isn't
consistent
with
it.
um
The
list
I
have
in
front
of
you
guys,
so
we
will
be
updating
that
number
to
be
consistent
with
what
those
numbers
are.
F
um
The
reason
this
uh
could
be
considered
a
priority
is
first,
you
know
on
its
own
merits
it.
um
I
know
um
the
purpose
of
this
project
is
to
try
to
provide
a
facility
for
uh
needs
that
are
underserved
in
a
certain
on
a
part
of
town
that
probably
needs
these
needs
more
than
any
part-time
other
part
of
town.
That's
where
a
prominent
a
lot
of
our
teens
live
in
this
side
of
town
and
having
a
teen
center
uh
available
would
be
helpful.
F
F
It's
key
in
that
effort,
so
um
once
we
come
out
of
this
pandemic
to
have
a
facili
facility
like
that
available.
For
that
effort,
I
think
uh
could
be
uh
would
be
helpful.
um
The
next
one
was
the
airport
um
right
now.
The
numbers
I'm
showing
that
we've
received
for
the
airport
expansions
thus
far
is
uh
about
12.3
million
dollars.
F
um
The
uh
the
kovitz
spin
on
this
is
um
you
know.
Coming
out
of
the
pandemic
is
uh
revitalizing
our
our
economy,
especially
our
local
economy.
We
think
the
airport
is
key
in
that
effort
right
now.
We
are
getting
ready
to
go
out
to
bid
for
the
parking
lot
expansion
and
we
are
beginning
the
design
efforts
of
the
terminal
expansion.
F
Expansion
efforts
to
make
our
airport
more
functional
um
kind
of
could
definitely
help
to
local
economy,
so
um
that
was
uh
the
um
the
determination.
The
uh
justification
for
the
airport
be
number
two
uh
number
three
uh
medium
beautification.
You
know
we
know
um
the
condition
of
our
medians
comes
up
quite
a
bit.
um
The
mayor
has
mentioned
uh
the
efforts
of
the
swat
uh
committee.
That's
come
together
with
different
ideas
on
how
to
not
only
improve
our
medians
but
to
make
them
less
labor-intensive
with
regards
to
to
maintenance.
F
So
um
I
think
the
benefit
of
this
project
is
even.
If
we
get
a
small
amount
of
money,
you
could
still
do
feasible
projects
versus
you
know
a
big
scale
project.
If
you
don't
get
a
good
chunk
of
funding,
you
can't
do
anything
this
one,
any
kind
of
money
you
get
you
can.
We
could
always
uh
spend
towards
medians
um
copic
spin.
I
have
on
this.
Is
you
know,
of
course,
with
our
economy
uh
the
way
it's
in
and
our
staffing?
F
The
way
it's
in
um
make
it
to
this
type
of
infrastructure
would
definitely
help
um
help
us
uh
to
uh
repurpose
our
limited
resources
to
other
areas,
uh
primarily
uh
active
park
space,
which
uh
is
a
segway
into
the
next
one
uh
city
park.
Renovation
repairs,
um
I
think,
not
only
now,
but
after
covid.
um
Just
having
these
open
spaces
not
only
helps
uh
with
with
overall
uh
activities
uh
for
everybody,
including
teens,
um
but
it
provides
facilities
that
are
um
where
uh
social
distancing
is
capable.
F
F
F
I
I
All
most
of
our
top
five
are
so
um
intensive
money-wise
and
with
the
amount
of
money
um
you
could
look
at
it,
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
going
to
get
and
the
amount
of
money
that
we're
not
going
to
get
um
you
know
I
I'd
like
to
see
us
um
have
projects
that
we
can
get
some
traction
in.
I
don't
think
that
getting
um
didn't
you
say,
john,
that
you
thought,
uh
or
I'm
talking
to
mark,
that
we
were
looking
at.
Maybe
a
million
dollars
total
one
to
two
million
total.
F
I
You
know
I
just
see
these
projects
amount
not
yet
funded
like
the
fire
station
over
uh
8
million
dollars,
um
the
airport
10
million
uh
teen
center
4
million.
I
mean
we're
not
even
going
to
get
close
on
those.
um
I
would
be
inclined
to
try
to
switch
up
some
of
the
order
of
this
so
that
um
you
know,
like
you,
said,
john,
uh
the
median
project.
I
I
These
other
projects
are
so
big
that,
for
me,
I
would
be
inclined
to
uh
put
them
off
to
another
day
when
we
thought
that
there
was
uh
a
much
larger
pot
of
money
available,
because
I
think
that
you
know
you
can
you
can
get
a
million
or
two
million
on
a
project.
That's
a
10
million
dollar
project
and
you
still
aren't
really
moving
ahead
on
it
and
we
end
up
not
spending
money.
That's
been
allocated
to
us,
which
it's
my
understanding
that
that's
problematic
so
I'll
yield
the
four.
Those
are
just
my
comments
on
it.
P
P
The
south
side
team
center
is
actually
funded
at
5
million,
so
that
that
funded
to
date
column
is
incorrect
and
we
are
moving
full
steam
ahead
right
now
on
a
design
and
construction
of
that
project.
So
um
and
it's
likely
to
need
just
a
little
bit,
you
know
when
we
go
out
to
bid.
It
always
has
that
you
know
like
10
over
thing,
so
a
little
bit
could
help
on
that
and
the
airport
terminal
expansion
as
well
is
on
full
steam
ahead
on
a
phased
um
expansion
approach.
A
Q
Q
That's
always
been
available
and
it's
going
to
be
available
this
year.
Well,
that
then
gets
diminished
a
little
bit
along
the
way
right
because
of
legislation
that
has
been
enacted
the
last
several
years.
Five
percent
immediately
goes
to
the
tribal
infrastructure
fund.
500
of
it
immediately
comes
off
the
top
and
goes
to
the
colonia
spa,
but
the
base
traditional
severance
tax
interest
money
is
going
to
be
available
this
year
now.
Is
it
going
to
be
down
it's
going
to
be
down?
I
think
it's
probably
going
to
be
in
the
neighborhood
of
140
million
dollars.
Q
Are
we
going
to
have
what
has
been
used
for
capital
outlay
in
past
legislative
sessions
when
we
had
revenue
boons,
and
that
was
the
legislature
saying
we
don't
want
to
use
excess
money
into
operating
uh
fund
where
it
will
be
considered
recurring,
so
we're
going
to
use
it
for
capital
outlay?
Will
that
source
of
money
be
available
this
legislative
session?
No,
so
there
will
be
capital
outlay
money,
and
so
then
the
question
is
but
there's
going
to
be
less
than
we've
seen
the
last
several
years.
Q
So
what
are
some
of
the
the
good
themes
to
approach
uh
with,
uh
and-
and
I
always
you
know,
my
clients-
always
ask
me
for
a
feel
of
a
number.
I
have
a
feel
of
a
number
of
uh
one
to
two
million
dollars
with
that
one
to
two
million
dollars.
uh
We'd
want
to
ask
for
a
city-wide
priority.
Why
not
try
that
for
a
city-wide
priority
that
fits
in
talking
to
john
and
and
and
others-
and
you
are,
the
decision
makers
were
just
the
ones
to
suggest
this.
Q
But
the
suggestion
is
go
ahead
and
try
this
citywide
project,
which
is
the
teen
center.
It
has
had
tremendous
support.
We've
gotten
big
chunks
of
money
along
the
way,
even
if
it's
a
continuity
of
strategy
and
a
continuity
of
rhythm.
If
you
will,
in
terms
of
one
of
the
two
big
projects
we've
been
asking
for
in
the
past,
to
have
some
consistency
and
that's
been
the
teen
center
and
the
airport,
let's
try
it
for
the
teen
center
in
terms
of
the
airport.
I
just
don't
see
it.
Q
So
have
a
strategy
where
we're
thinking
about
one
city
wide
priority
palatable
number
south
side
teen
center,
it
can
be
used
as
regina
just
talked
about
and
then
knowing
that
if
we
have
to
shift-
and
it's
not-
you
know
it's-
it's
we're
going
to
come
out
with
800
000
or
something
like
that.
Then
have
this
this,
I
would
suggest
you
have
a
consistent
set
of
then
district
priorities
that
have
a
theme.
Q
Maybe
district
priorities
would
have
a
theme
of
transportation.
Maybe
district
priorities
would
have
a
theme
of
infrastructure
where
that's
going
to
help
is
to
always
make
sure
that
you
have
enough
uh
250
to
350
000
projects
and
under
uh
in
your
arsenal
and
on
your
icip
to
work
with.
I
think
where
people
make
mistakes,
is
they
only
submit
five
projects
in
their
icip
and
they
don't
they
can
submit
so
much
more,
and
then
we
have
this
arsenal
to
work
on
in
terms
of
what
theme
develops
um
or
what
themes
is
popular
in
the
moment.
Q
I
I've
never
the
only
theme,
I've
gotten
a
feel
for
quite
frankly
is
covet
and
I
think
um
there's
a
little
bit
of
an
error
in
thinking
that
you
know
covet's
going
to
be
funded
by
the
legislature,
because
the
legislative
and
it's
certainly
going
to
be
a
priority.
But
I
think
legislators
are
going
to
be
thinking
well,
cities
and
counties
already
got
the
loan.
Q
Know
access
to
loan
money,
uh
they
got
the
cares,
act,
money
and
things
like
that,
and
so
overall
there's
my
suggestion
that
there'll
be
the
comments.
There'll
be
capital
alley
money
think
about
one
to
two
million
still
think
about
it.
From
the
perspective
of
a
city-wide
priority
be
flexible
with
then
other
uh
projects
to
accumulate,
maybe
towards
one
million.
um
I
would
suggest
thinking
of
it
in
in
district
priorities
and
district
priorities
with
a
theme.
A
A
Q
A
H
uh
What
I
was
going
to
ask-
and
I'm
glad
to
hear
you
say,
is-
I
think
it's
really
important
with
the
legislature
to
be
consistent
and
if
and
if
we
were
talking
teen
center
and
the
airport
before
it
doesn't
hurt
to
continue
that
dialogue,
because
we
do
have
legislators,
as
you
know,
who
are
like
honed
in
on
a
particular
project
and
then
they
expect
you
to
come
back
and
and
still
fight
for
that
project,
because
that's
one
that
might
be
dear
to
their
heart.
um
I
know
we
got
a
lot
of
traction.
H
I
don't
know
that
we
got
that
much
money,
but
we
got
a
lot
of
traction
with
the
airport
and
and
and
I'm
just
using
that
as
an
example,
but
going
back
to
some
of
the
other
things
that
we
brought
forward
last
year
were
sidewalks
and
uh
I
remember
a
conversation
we
had
with
senator
rodriguez,
where
you
know
she.
She
said
we
really
want
to
get
the
sidewalks,
but
but
you
know
we
we
just
had
to
give
it
up
for
for
a
trade-off.
You
know.
H
H
Q
The
airport
is
still
a
tremendous
priority,
but
we
have
11
million
dollars,
that's
accumulated
from
last
legislative
session
or
prior
um
here's
our
spend
down
plan,
and
so
they
they
become
engaged
right.
They
become
engaged
with
the
project,
but
it's
not
necessarily
unasked,
but
by
talking
about
the
spend
down
plan
and
the
timing
of
that,
it
sets
us
up
back
again
to
be
at
the
airport
next
year.
Q
If
you
make
that
a
top
priority,
if
the
south
side
teen
center
is
then
closer
to
being
completed
and
we're
saying
the
next
increment
of
that
gets
us
that
much
closer
to
completion.
We're
also,
then,
using
that
lineage
to
then
already
make
a
case
to
complete
it
next
legislative
session,
and
so
I
think,
for
both
of
those,
the
the
sell
of
it
is
ease,
is,
is
much
easier
because
of
how
consistent
we
have
been
on
those
two
projects,
so
I
definitely
keep
those
in
the
in
the
top
five
and
then
at
the
third.
Q
If
you
tell
me
what
elevates
if
it's
the
midtown
campus
whatever's
third,
we
haven't
probably
been
talking
about
that
as
much
as
we've
been
talking
about
the
airport
and
south
side
teen
center,
we
we
would
then
make
that
a
priority.
We'd
start
the
sound
nomenclature
in
regard
to
that
it's
education
this
year.
It's
maybe
a
smaller
ask
the
next
year,
but
then
it
sets
us
up
for
in
year
three
that
that
may
be
our
number
one
priority.
I
I,
I
think
you're
on
the
right
track
and
thinking
of
it
that
way
and
consistency.
H
H
I
mean,
if
they're
nice,
to
look
at
and
they're
pretty,
and
I
think
they're
important,
but
we've
been
inundated
with
constituent
calls
about
the
the
lack
of
uh
maintenance
of
our
parks
and
children,
getting
hurt
with
bad
equipment
and
needles
and
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
so
I
I
happen
to
think
that
parks,
renovation
and
repairs
is
probably
more
important
and
of
cour.
You
know
it
meets
uh
councillor
lindell's
test
of
small
dollars
so
that
I
think
that's
that's
more
important
to
me
uh
and
then
the
the
next
thing
is.
E
F
A
F
Maybe
some
help
from
regina
on
this
one,
I
believe,
um
even
with
that
total
of
five
million
dollars,
we
still
are
underfunded
and
so
receiving
an
extra
yes
about.
One
million
dollars
would
fully
fund
it.
Although
that's,
um
I
personally
think
based
on
the
way
our
projects
are
always
underfunded.
If
we
receive
even
more
than
that
it
could,
um
it
could
definitely
be
used
towards
the
project.
F
E
And
I'm
not,
I
think
we
just
want
to
get
our
numbers
in
line,
especially
when
we're
going
to
the
legislature
to
act.
Ask
them
when
we
say
it's
going
to
cost
us
x
amount
and
we're
asking
for
more
than
that
amount
doesn't
necessarily
lead
to
a
great
ask
in
my
opinion.
So
I
think
if,
if
we're
expecting
it
to
cost
6.1,
um
I
think
that's
what
we
should
be
asking
not
for
in
addition
to
and
that
when
we
run
into
those
challenges,
we're
I
agree
with
probably
we'll
be
we're
shooting
ourselves
a
little
low.
A
E
A
Questions
all
right,
so
I'm
I'm
fine
with
this
list.
If
we,
you
know
change
uh
parks
with
medians,
I
think
that's
fine,
um
the
only
one
that
um
so
before
we
move
on
john,
if
you
can
just
so
anytime,
we
add
a
project,
I
know,
there's
a
small
booklet
that
goes
along
with
it.
So
it's
not
just
a
matter
of
putting
a
number
in
in
your
spreadsheet
and
putting
it
on
a
list.
Can
you
tell
us
what
goes
into
actually
getting
it?
F
F
F
Yeah,
well,
I'm
just
going
through
a
bunch
email.
So
here
we
go
so
um
this
isn't
what
we're
discussing
but
it'll,
give
you
an
example
of
what
it
looks
like
so
right
here.
um
These
are
the
forms
that
are
generated,
the
ones
that
we
enter
in
have
all
this
information
just
in
a
slightly
different
format,
but
um
each
project
takes
when
it's
all
said
and
done
um
creates
all
this.
This
information
right
here
and
yes
so
entering
that
information
into
the
database.
F
It
is
very
glorious
and
again
I
do
apologize
that
these
numbers
aren't
um
exactly
right
again.
What
I
was
trying
to
emphasize
my
efforts
on
this
week
is
to
come
up
with
a
prioritization
and
start
entering
in
uh
what
correct
numbers
we
had
into
the
system,
so
we
could
start
um
getting
that
stuff
in
in
time
for
our
deadline.
F
A
A
F
What
kind
of
money
we're
looking
for
um
the
different
phases
breaking
up
uh
the
project
by
phases,
whether
it
includes
different
types
of
studies,
writer
acquisition,
design?
What
years
are
planning
on
doing
each
of
those?
So
it
is
a
high
level
planning
effort,
but
it
is.
um
It
does
take
some
time
to
do.
A
All
right
so
I'll
entertain
a
motion
and
again
I
think
uh
the
list
looks
pretty
good,
as
is,
I
think
the
medians
in
the
park
do
meet
the
level
of
uh
small
project
monies
that
counselor
lindell
was
talking
about.
So
you
know,
if
there's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
available,
um
we
can
use
that
towards
uh
it
can
go
a
long
way
towards
funding
a
park
or
doing
something
in
the
media,
and
so
I
think
we
kind
of
have
both
our
bases
covered.
A
E
A
A
H
D
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
The
only
question
I
have
on
this
is,
I
didn't
find
um
any
of
the
old
fees
on
any
of
the
documentation.
Maybe
there
aren't
any.
Maybe
these
are
all
new.
I
don't
know
so
uh
that's.
That
is
my
only
question.
I'd
just
like
to
see
with
the
do.
You
have
a
comparison,
the
old
fees,
new
fees.
R
A
comment
on
that.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
uh
council
survey
hill
coupler,
um
I'm
actually
going
to
defer
that
to
uh
assistant
land
use
director
jason
klook
um
he's
been
leading
the
effort
on
this
project
for
the
land
use
department,
and
then
I
just
would
also
like
to
mention
that
we
also
have
uh
planning
manager,
noah
burke,
on
the
line.
uh
He
has
some
good
uh
historical
perspective
on
the
fees
being
with
the
department.
As
long
as
he's
been
so
um
I'll
defer,
first
to
jason
uh
to
answer
that
question.
H
H
A
A
J
D
E
A
R
Yes,
thank
you.
So
this
was
um
brought
to
us
by
um
two
constituents:
hillary
kilpatrick
and
andrea
baby.
um
They
are
interested
in
opening
a
commercial
kitchen
or
a
commissary
kitchen
at
a
property,
that's
located
within
a
c1
district,
and
that
is
what
initiated
this.
They,
I
believe
first
approached
councillors,
uh
lindell
and
via
real
and
then
came
to
the
land
use
department
asking
for
this
text
amendment.
R
I
think
I
would
say
that
there
is
a
need
for
this.
um
I
you
know
commercial
kitchens.
Commissary
kitchens
are
wonderful
economic
development
engines.
uh
They
allow
people
to
produce
foods
and
agricultural
products
for
sale
at
places
like
a
farmers
market,
um
other
places
that
sell
food
and
then
oftentimes.
They
act
as
incubators
where
someone
who
starts
say
making
salsa
on
a
small
scale
to
sell
at
the
farmers
market.
uh
That
becomes
a
very
popular
item.
N
R
They
scale
up
and
they
may
have
to
open
up
an
industrial
kitchen
uh
that
would
allow
them
to
produce
something
on
the
scale,
let's
say
sadie's
or
something
like
that.
So
these
are
actually
we
currently
don't
have
any
commissary
kitchens.
uh
We
don't
have
this
use
defined
in
our
land
use
code,
and
I
think
this
is
a
very
interesting
proposal
and
one
that
does
fill
a
hole
in
our
economic.
H
R
You
would
have
access
to
the
kitchen
to
produce
your
uh
your
food,
whether
it
be
something
for
sale
like
a
salsa
or
something
like
that
or
um
often
these
facilities
are
used
by
operators
and
owners
of
food
trucks
um
where
they
produce
their
food
loaded
on
the
food
truck
and
then
use
the
food
truck
more
as
a
vending
facility,
more
so
than
a
food
preparation
facility.
So
these
are
actually
increasingly
common.
We
don't
uh
city
santa
fe
doesn't
currently
have
any
commissary
kitchens.
H
R
I
H
R
So
the
requirements,
thank
you
for
the
question.
uh
Councilman
coppler,
uh
mr
chair,
the
requirements
for
a
special
use
permit
are
listed
um
in
chapter
14..
um
Let's
see
if
I
have
that
information
handy,
um
if
you
bear
with
me
for
one
second,
I
can
uh
pull
that
up
um
here.
We
go
it's
they're
listed
in
uh
chapter
14-3.6
and
there
are
the
procedures.
Are
we
ask
for
a
site
plan,
an
application?
R
R
The
premises
are
under
consideration.
So
a
little
background
on
why
we
included
the
special
use
requirement
in
this
build
um
there's
always
the
chance
that
food
production
might
uh
create
some
um
unwanted
uh
externalities,
whether
it
be
odors
or
smells,
or
something
like
that.
So
we
wanted
the
option
of
making
sure
that
um
commissary
kitchens
in
close
proximity
residential
areas,
we
have
a
chance
to
review
uh
what
they'll
be
doing
in
that
kitchen
and
ensure
that
there's
no
negative
impacts
on
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
R
Absolutely
I'm
not
exactly
uh
100
sure
of
what
those
requirements
are.
I
do
know
that
any
uh
commercial
kitchen
does
go
through
uh
quite
a
bit
of
scrutiny
in
terms
of
inspection
for
health
and
other
safety
factors,
and
I'm
sure
that
they,
uh
the
operators
of
the
commissary
kitchen,
will
also
uh
be
a
very
mindful
of
any
health
regulations
in
terms
of
their
uh
people
that
they're
renting
out
space
to.
H
R
um
So
I
think
it's,
I
think
the
question
is
more
about
uh
the
proper
order
of
operations.
So,
first,
you
would
have
um
the
permit
from
us
to
develop
your
property
in
such
a
way
as
to
open
a
commissary
kitchen,
and
then
once
you
have
done
the
either
new
construction
renovation,
whatever
it
might
be,
that
facility
would
then
be
inspected
by
nmed
and
given
a
certificate
that
would
allow
them
to
operate
out
of
my
facility.
R
H
R
um
Thank
you
for
the
question.
Mr
chair
uh
concert
view
hill
cobler.
Absolutely
um
these
these
commercial
kitchens
are
held
to
the
same
standard
that
any
commercial
food
production
facility
is
held
to
whether
it
be
a
commercial
kitchen,
a
restaurant
facility,
anything
along
those
lines.
This
will
be
uh
required
to
operate
at
the
same
level
of
health
and
safety.
A
H
A
E
A
H
H
uh
I
wasn't
I
have
not
been
aware
of.
Nor
was
I
invited
to
any
kind
of
focus,
group
or
solicitation
of
ideas,
uh
comments
on
proposals,
anything
like
that
and-
and
it
seems
to
me
that
when
you
do
that-
and
you
involve
people
in
decisions
that
are
going
to
affect
them,
especially
in
the
workplace
and
doing
the
work,
you
learn
a
great
deal
about
what
people
really
do
and
since
they're
engaged
at
the
lowest
level,
uh
I
have
found
that
employees
have
a
lot
to
say
about
what
their
ideas
are.
H
So
um
I
think
this
is
kind
of
like
my
first
paragraph
of
thought,
and
so
I'm
not
sure
uh
who
will
answer
the
question,
maybe
jarrell.
If
she's
on,
I
think
she
is
yes
and-
and
that
is
what
how
did
you
engage
employees
on
this
reorganization
down
to
the
bottom
level,
across
departments,
divisions,
sections
and
then,
of
course,
the
employees
who
are
the
front
line
uh
in
in
these
covid
times,
and
and
how
did
you
do
that.
T
T
We
did
um
uh
the
beginning
of
mayor
webber's
administration
when
we
had
uh
mr
garza
come
down
from
las
cruces
and
the
the
uh
the
findings
from
that
retreat
was
basically
was
get
our
house
in
order,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
shape
of
the
organization
how
it
needs
to
look
so
that
was
that
was
the
beginning
of
this
process.
So
I
just
want
to
say
the
tale.
The
this
has
been
an
ongoing
conversation
for
a
long
time.
um
We
uh
so
about
the
way
that
the
organization
should
look.
T
What's
the
right
shape
um
back
in
january,
so
pre-covered
uh
there
were
conversations
amongst
department,
directors,
um
uh
mayor
myself,
others
trying
to
figure
out
what
would
be
the
right
level,
what
what
what
kind
of
reorganization
would
work
um
again
back
in
back.
In
those
times
we
were
looking
at,
you
know
growing
budgets,
growing
staff.
How
could
we
be
more
um
make
progress
back
faster,
more
coherent
um
when
I
became
city
manager?
T
I
started
meeting
with
the
the
department
directors
in
teams
um
and
again
those
teams
were
are
mirrored
in
the
proposed
reorg
that
we
did,
and
that
was
um
part
that
was
for
both
efficiency
and
also
to
give
it
a
try
to
see
what
operating
in
these
teams
would
yield
um
so
that
just
to
sort
of
color
that
this
has
been.
This
has
been
ongoing.
This
isn't
new
out
of
the
blue.
T
The
community
development
piece
has
been
um
circulating
for
a
long
time
and
I
think
on
the
public
safety,
um
what
we're
calling
community
health
and
safety
there's
been
a
lot
of
conversations
about.
How
could
we
create
a
public
safety
department?
That's
something
that's
trending
across
municipalities
across
the
country
um
that
one
seemed
you
know
back
in
january
january,
when
we
were
starting
to
look
at
that.
That
seemed
a
much
heavier
lift
right.
T
It's
hard
uh
to
uh
to
do
something
like
that,
so
that
that
proposal
actually
is
much
more
of
the
moment
so
once
covet
hit
um
and
we're
faced
with
this
draconian
budget
situation,
we're
looking
at
um
you
know
what
at
one
point
we
thought
feared
was
a
40
cut.
We
now
know
to
be
about
20
cut.
How
can
we,
how
can
we
organize
ourselves
um
smarter,
better,
more
efficient,
you
know,
collaboration
happens
regardless.
T
How
could
a
program
like
all
of
the
progressive
policies
we
want
to
see
in
the
way
our
police
department
run?
How
can
we
leverage
our
resources
and
have
somebody
looking
across
uh
line?
You
know
budgets
and
um
and
programs
to
really
produce
efficiency,
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
on
the
parks
and
rec
um
again
that
was
a
product.
T
The
study
session
we
did
for
parks
uh
well
over
a
year
ago.
Probably
I'd
have
to
check
the
date,
but
I
think
it
was
february
of
last
year.
I
was
instructed,
after
the
study
session,
to
look
into
what
it
would,
uh
what
the
pros
and
cons
would
be
of
breaking
up
parks
and
rec.
Obviously,
it's
been
in
different
forms,
different
iterations
throughout
the
years.
um
So
all
of
these
have
long
tails
um
because
of
covid
um
one
of
the
things
we
have
started
but
haven't
finished
that
I
think,
remains
an
ongoing
activity.
T
We
did
uh
put
out
a
call
to
start
employee
focus
groups
to
get
people's
feedback
around
where
efficiencies
are
what's
working.
What's
not,
um
those
haven't
um
had
had
a
chance
to
meet
yet,
um
but
I
think,
what's
instructive
about.
Then
I
agree
completely.
The
more
you
have
the
more
you
have
people
engaged
in
the
reorg,
the
better.
It
is,
I
think,
what's
really
interesting
about
this
reorg
is
it
is
it's
it's
bold.
It
makes
some
really
progressive
change,
but
it
also
doesn't
impact
directly
a
large
number
of
employees.
T
It
most
dramatically
affects
department,
directors,
they're,
they're
being
um
reshaped,
but
the
uh
they
are
very
they're.
uh
The
impact
to
uh
individuals
below
uh
that
line
is
not
much
so
when
we're
you
know,
we've
stroked
back
and
forth.
Are
we
moving
boxes
or
people?
We
all
know
that
they
are
people
not
boxes,
but
we
are
moving
these
boxes
as
an
entity
once
we.
If
this
is.
H
So
um
I
I'm
just
I'm
just
amazed
that
this
this
seemed
to
come
out
of
nowhere.
In
my
opinion,
the
only
thing
I
got
communicated
with-
and
I
think
the
council
is
part
of
the
communication
process,
uh
but
you
know
just
a
phone
call
from
you
and
saying
here.
This
is
what
we're
gonna
do.
That's
like
all
I
ever
heard
about
it
and-
and
I
I
didn't
certainly
get
any
input.
I
did.
H
I
mean
that's
really.
The
in
all.
The
studies
will
point
to
this.
That's
really
the
most
effective
way
to
do
this.
I
think
this
has
gone
on
like
during
a
pandemic.
I
think
it's
wrong
number
two,
I
don't
think
there's
been
the
the
two-way
up
and
down
and
sideways
communication
that
should
have
happened.
H
Work
sessions
certainly
are
are
a
plus
to
to
talk
about
and
have
various
work
sessions
so
that
you
know
you
you
come
together.
You
you
make
changes,
you
go
back,
you
come
together
with
a
different
plan,
come
and
do
all
that,
and
I
don't
even
know
how
that
can
be
done
on
zoom
it.
It's
just
not
effective
for
such
a
major
change
and
I
don't
see
it
as
just
a
few
boxes
changing
you
know
one
box
to
this
box
and
combine
these
boxes.
I
I
just
don't
see
it
that
way.
H
There's
a
lot
of
stress
and
a
lot
of
trauma.
That's
going
on
behind
the
scenes
about
this,
and
uh
you
know
I
I
just
don't
think
this
is
like
the
proper
way
to
go
about
it
and
not
that
I'm
necessarily
thinking
that
we
shouldn't
make
some
changes,
uh
and
I
I
do
agree
with
councillor
lindell's
comment
the
other
day
where
change
is
hard,
but
I
tell
you
it
changes
even
harder
when
when,
when
you
had
no
say
so,
when
you
had
no
opinion,
no
it
this
just
seemed
to
come
out
of
left
field.
H
H
You
prepare
the
comp
the
compensation
uh
surrounding
those
uh
you
throw
those
out
to
the
bodies
that
you
know
the
people
that
they're
going
to
affect,
or
or
people
who
should
have
some
kind
of
say
in
the
comparison.
How
are
you
going
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
comp
plan?
How
are
you
going
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
of
how
people's
jobs
are
described
uh
and
and
there
and
then
fold
them
in
to
the
organizations
that
maybe
aren't
going
anywhere?
How
are
you
going
to
to
to
do
that?
H
H
uh
You
know
I'm
I'm
still
kind
of
in
awe
about
uh
seniors
the
senior.
I
guess
it
would
be
a
section
now
library,
sections
being
folded
into
a
department
that
includes
police
and
fire,
and
then
now
we
have
a
city
events
coordinator
and
I
don't
know,
maybe
all
of
them.
I
don't
even
I
don't
even
know
but
now
into
the
city
clerk's
office
and
it
I
don't
know
everybody
seems
to
be
not
everybody,
but
these
places
that
there's
no
real
rhyme
or
reason
to
sort
of
like,
let's
put
them
in
the
city
clerk's
office.
H
H
And
I
know
we
got
these
mission
statements.
Well,
did
the
employees
have
a
say
so,
and
this
is
the
mission
you
know
you
write
mission
statements
with
all
across
the
board,
and
these
just
appeared
recently.
I
don't
know
where
these
came
from,
but
they
don't
seem
to
to
hold
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
weight,
because
I,
I
think
somebody
just
sat
in
their
office
and
and
wrote
them
up,
and
um
you
know
I
think
employees
will
go
just
about
anywhere.
H
You
want
them,
you
want
them
to
go
if
they
see
a
sense
of
purpose.
They
were
involved
in
it
and-
and
I
really
think
this
thing
just
took
off
on
a
fast
track-
uh
I
don't
think
it
addresses-
I
don't
even
know
what
it
addresses.
Frankly,
I
I
I'm
uh
I'm
just
stymied
that
we're
in
a
major
pandemic
where
communication
is
is,
I
think
communication
suffers
with
these
kinds
of
meetings.
H
H
I
think
it
really
cuts
off
half,
if
not
three-fourths,
of
how
you
reorganize
properly.
I
think
it
cuts
off
all
of
that
communication,
and
what
you
have
before
you
is
is
a
you
know.
You
can
have
everything
nice
and
neat
on
paper,
but
it's
the
employees
that
do
the
work
that
are
just
like
question
marks
all
over
the
place.
I
wasn't
involved
in
this.
Where
am
I
going
to
be?
What's
my
job
going
to
be
who's
going
to
be
my
supervisor?
You
know
all
of
this.
H
You
know,
what's
going
to
happen
to
these
particular
things
and
and
then
I'll
get
to
another
point.
We
have
so
much
turnover
in
the
city
right
now
I
mean
I
hear
people
quitting
left
and
right.
They're
upset
and
we've
lost
a
lot
of
people,
but
we
don't
have
reports
on
that.
We
don't
have
reports
on
people
that
are
just
headed
up
to
here
and
they're
gone,
but
we
do
have
reports
on
screaming
matches
and
shouting
matches
going
on.
H
H
Maybe
where
some
things
are
could
have
been
done
better
and
maybe
we
wouldn't
even
have
some
of
the
issues,
but
um
but
I
think
the
foundation
is
very
weak
and
crumbled,
and
I
don't
think
there's
been
the
communication
that
has
been
absolutely
necessary
to
have
a
successful
reorganization
plan
we're
in
a
pandemic,
and
this
is
no
time
at
all
to
be
like
making
this
major
change
all
of
the
information
and
the
transparency
to
the
city
council
and
to
the
public
about
what
the
true
changes
are
here.
What
the
costs
are,
what
the
comp
plan
is.
H
All
of
that
it's
all
non-existent,
and
I
wholeheartedly
right
now
in
this
point
in
time.
I'm
terribly
against
this.
I
will
vote
no,
even
though
uh
you
know
they're
probably
I
mean
I've
seen
this
go
through
committee.
People
are
just
rubber
stamping
and
uh
I
just
think
it's
it's
horrible.
It's
probably
one
of
the
worst
things.
That's
happened
in
the
organization
in
a
long
time
and
uh
that's
my
spiel.
I
did
ask
my
question,
mr
chair,
and,
uh
and
this
is
the
first
time
I've
had
an
opportunity
to
comment
and
that's
that's
the
way.
H
E
E
After
reviewing
the
org
chart,
and
so
from
my
looks
at
it
the
flow
of
the
org,
you
know
you
got
the
city
of
the
santa
fe
residence
up
top,
which
they're
the
priority.
Then
it's
broken
up
into
the
three
streams
of
the
legislative,
the
executive,
the
judicial
and
I
see
the
city
manager
only
falling
under
the
mayor.
E
O
Information
uh
chairman
of
riveta,
just
a
point
of
information
on
on
the
code.
There
are
some
updates
needed
to
chapter
two
based
on
our
charter
amendments.
um
Previously,
the
council
could,
by
majority
vote,
remove
the
city
manager.
Now
it's
a
super
majority,
so
there
has
been
a
few
changes,
um
but
I
agree
with
you:
it's
by
the
the
appointment
and
consent
of
the
governing
body,
but
there
is,
there
is
some
changes
that
are
needed
to
chapter
two
based
on
the
charter
changes
that
happened
a
few
years
ago.
E
Okay,
so
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
ms
mcsherry
and
duke,
and
confirming
that
the
city
manager
is
hired
by
the
city
council,
um
I'm
going
off
of
what
we
have
published
on
our
website.
So
that's!
If,
if
we
haven't
made
the
appropriate
changes
to
our
city
charter
and
is
published
on
our
website,.
O
E
Charter
is
on
monday,
okay.
So
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
ms
mcsherry,
but
so
to
reiterate.
2-4.8
relationship
of
the
city
manager
with
the
governing
body.
The
city
manager
shall
be
responsible
to
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
for
the
efficient
administration
of
all
branches
of
departments
of
the
city
government.
E
E
E
I
think
we
need
to
maybe
slow
this
process
down
to
determine
what's
the
best
path
forward,
because
taking
away
powers
from
the
city
council
to
give
it
under
the
mayor's
office
is
not
the
appropriate
way
to
move
forward.
I
understand
there's
proposals
to
increase
the
efficiency
of
governments
and
there
are
parts
that
I
do
agree
with,
but
taking
power
away
from
the
city
council.
I
do
not
agree
with
um
that's
all
the
questions
I
have
mister.
O
Chairman
rivera,
it
does
not
um
and
does
not
supersede
any
other
code
either.
I
think
these
are
just
demonstrative
aids.
We
certainly
could
add
a
dotted
line
between
the
council
and
the
city
manager,
or
whatever
I
mean
the
lines
are
interpretive.
I
think
you
know
the
mayor
names,
the
city
manager,
so
you
could
say
call
that
a
naming
line
um
the
council
does
not
name
the
city
manager.
So
if
you
interpret
the
lines
as
the
entity
that
names
the
entity
below
it,
I
think
that
would
be
one
way
to
look
at
it.
O
A
T
Chair
counselor,
uh
rivera
counselor,
garcia,
the
uh
the
org
chart
was
in
no
way
meant
to
uh
outweigh
what
is
in
code
and
ordinance.
It
was
as
as
city
attorney
said,
it
demonstrative
happy
to
to
make
edits,
entertain
suggestions
on
a
way
that
you
feel
visually.
That
would
um
be
representative,
but
the
org
chart
itself
is
a
visual
aid.
It
was
not
meant
to
suggest
any
changes
that
are
outside
of
the
charter
or
the
our
city,
ordinances.
E
The
comment
miss
le
pen
hill,
but
I
just
going
back
off
of
your
initial
comment
that
the
city
manager
is
hired
and
fired
by
the
the
mayor.
I
think
that's
the
wrong
perspective
to
have
you're
forgetting
about
the
council
and
to
to
think
that
you
certainly
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
the
mayor
is
not
true.
T
L
L
So
counselor
garcia
that
one
of
the
problems
in
the
past
was
there
was
a
concern
by
the
public
that
the
council
could
pick
and
choose
managers
and,
in
some
cases,
hold
managers
or
a
mayor
hostage
by
not
giving
them
the
consent
to
get
rid
of
a
manager
if
they
wanted
to,
and
I
think
that
even
happened
not
too
long
ago,
with
one
of
our
former
mayors
and
a
city
manager,
he
was
trying
to
replace.
So
it's
not
cur.
L
E
um
You
know,
there's
going
to
be
a
time
in
place
where
all
of
us
that
are
participating
on
the
zoom
call
are
not
going
to
be
in
these
roles,
and
we
want
to
ensure
that
in
the
future
we
are
practicing
the
city
code
and
not
blurring
the
lines,
because
um
you
know-
and
I
and
I
understand
council
reverse
point
in
regards
to-
does
the
org
chart
supersede,
but
it
helps
to
blur
the
lines
and
especially
when
we're
conducting
a
reorg
like
this.
That
is
very
significant.
We
don't
want
to
blur
the
lines
we
want
to.
E
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
um
I
I
just
want
to
quit,
have
clarification,
so
uh
any
city
manager
that
that
has
been
hired
at
least
since
most
of
us
have
been
on
the
council,
has
come
to
the
council
for
a
a
vote.
So
I
I
see
that
we
hire
the
city
manager
based
on
the
mayor's
recommendation
so
granted.
uh
The
mayor
can
terminate
the
city
manager
without
a
vote,
but
it
can.
I
have
clarified
that
it
takes
six
votes
to
fire.
The
city
manager,
regardless
of
the
mayor's
wish,
is
that
correct.
H
And
is
that
that's
correct?
Yes,
so
so
it
kind
of
solidifies
counselor
garcia's
point
that
we
do
have
uh
a
role
in
in
the
at
least
in
the
organizational
chart
uh
where
we
have
some
say
so
as
a
council
over
how
things
are
are
managed
and
uh
not
that
that
would
you
know,
be
invoked
any
time
uh
whatever.
That's
not
what
we're
talking
about
we're
talking
about
how
how
the
organization
appears
to
the
public
and
the
fact
that
this
art
chart
isn't
even
correct.
H
And-
and
none
of
that
has
happened
and-
and
I
see
this
is
a
you
know
again,
somewhat
of
a
message
of
erosion
of
the
city
council's
authority.
Where
you
know
we
can't
even
come
up
with
an
organizational
chart
that
that's
correct,
and
here
it
is.
You
know
how
many
times
has
this
been
published
and
I'm
not
sure,
but
um
I
don't
consider
the
session
we
had
with
mr
garza
the
impetus
to
having
this
happen,
in
fact,
to
the
contrary,
everything
I
recalled
about
that
uh
really
wasn't
necessarily
about
this.
H
O
E
O
E
Right,
okay,
so
so
to
my
point
of
earlier,
is
we
need
to
ensure
full
transparency?
People
are
for
me
to
have
to
go
jumping
from
one
piece
of
information
to
another.
To
another
is
not
consistency
and
it's
and
it
leads
to
uh
once
again
it
leads
to
clouding
uh
interpretation,
and
we
want
to
ensure
if
we
need
to
pull
down
the
city
code,
because
it's
out
of
date,
I'd
rather
not
be
up
than
to
be
up
and
wrong.
E
T
Mr
chair,
thank
you
for
the
question.
um
I
think
in
many
many
aspects
of
it
would
have
remained
exactly
the
same
as
I
mentioned
earlier
in
my
remarks
uh
back
in
january,
when
I
became
a
full-time
city
manager,
we
started
having
discussions
about
what
a
reorg
would
look
like
um
and-
and
I
was
meeting
with
the
the
team
that
is
now
um
mostly
the
community
development
team,
so
that
was,
I
think,
ready
to
go.
T
I
think
the
the
the
time
we're
in
the
covid
pandemic,
the
dramatic
economic
collapse
we're
facing
the
uh
social
uh
moment
we're
in
with
the
police
allowed
us,
gave
us
the
um
the
courage
to
make
a
progressive
mood
move
in
suggesting
the
community
health
and
development,
uh
community,
health
and
safety.
I
apologize,
um
I
think
um
so
that
that
is,
that
is
more
a
byproduct
of
this
moment.
I
think
seeing
the
needs
our
community
is
we
already.
T
We
already
knew
how
how
many
needs
our
community
had
and
now
with
this
pandemic
facing
facing
us,
and
I
think
it's
really
important
to
acknowledge
uh
the
budget
situation,
we're
in
that's
it's
actually
the
most
opportune
time
to
make
changes
to
your
organization.
We
are
down
in
numbers.
We
have
a
hiring
freeze,
we
are
at
a
20
budget
and
so
our
what
the
my
philosophy
you
know
our
organization
looks
like
this
and
if
we're
not
going
to
get
we're,
not
adding
new
people,
you
know
we're
in
a
hiring
freeze.
T
Our
budget
is
um
in
a
difficult
spot.
How
do
we?
What
can
we
do
within
our
organization
to
make
it
more
efficient,
more
nimble
and
then
from
there
as
we
as
we
get?
You
know
we
face
better
days
ahead
of
us,
then
we
can
grow
from.
We
can
grow
from
that
place,
but
so
now
is
actually
a
really
important
time
to
take
um
some
of
those
um
uh
opportunities
um
and
challenges.
Reorgs
are
really
hard,
they're,
always
hard
they're,
always
difficult.
I
couldn't
agree
more
there,
there's
no
there's,
never
enough
communication.
T
You
can
always
do
that
better,
um
and
I
think
that
it
is
um
so.
I
think
this
moment
it's
actually
really
important,
because
we're
also
we
keep
asking
our
team
to
do
more
with
less
over
and
over
and
over
again-
um
and
this
is
an
attempt
this
reorg,
all
the
parts
of
it,
are
really
to
try
and
again
continue
to
build
out
our
efficiency.
T
Be
clear
when
we
are
no
longer
going
to
choose
to
to
do
something
to
take
a
hard
look
at
what's
working
and
what's
not
um
and
if
we
are,
if
we
stay
the
same,
we
stay
the
same
and
we're
still
facing
a
higher
we're
still
facing
staffing
shortages,
we're
still
facing
budget
deficits,
um
and
we
just
keep
piling
on
and
on,
and
I
think
you
know
the
exercise
when
we
were
facing
a
42
looking
to
budget
at
a
42
cut.
You
can't
do
that
across
the
board
that
decimates
an
organization.
I
I
I
I
I
mean
I
have
a
matrix
of
a
work
order
of
um
whatever
a
complaint
is
and
who
addresses
it,
and
this
matrix
of
responsibility
of
for
illegal
dumping.
I
mean,
when
is
it
parks
that
represe
that
takes
care
of
it?
When
is
it
streets?
When
is
it
environmental
services?
When
is
it
code
enforcement?
When
is
it
transit?
This
is
crazy.
I
I
No
one
ever
came
and
asked
me
if
I
wanted
to
be
reorg,
um
and
you
know
what
I
didn't,
but
um
I
was
employed
by
that
organization
and
it
was
incumbent
upon
me
to
find
my
way
through
that
and
participate
and
to
do
the
very
best
I
could
with
what
was
presented
to
me
and
um
guess
what
I
was
wrong,
because
the
reorganization
that
was
proposed
in
a
couple
of
years
really
made
a
lot
of
sense.
Was
it
hard
yeah?
I
um
The
purpose
of
this
is
to
save
money
and
to
be
more
efficient.
It's
it's
not
to
create
hardship
for
people,
and
I
think
it's
um
something
that
um
has
has
gotten
a
lot
of
thought
and
um
maybe
right
now
is
the
exact
right
time
to
do
it.
um
So
I'm
gonna
support
this
and
um
chair.
Are
you
at
a
point
where
um
you
would
entertain
a
motion.
A
I
A
A
A
H
uh
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
wanted
to
bring
something
to
john
romero's
attention.
I
got
a
call
from
a
constituent
saying
that
the
building
that's
going
on
um
at
the
corner
of
mission
bend
and
richards
avenue.
I
think
she
said
it's
home
wise-
that
there
there's
no
dust
control
with
that
project
and
she
says
it's
really
really
bad
and
I
wondered
if
you
could
follow
up
on
it,
because
I
I
do
believe
we
have
some
dust
control
measures.
Don't
we
when
building
is
going
on.