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I
This
is
a
change
that
has
to
be
on
there
and
approved
uh
for
really
for
dfa
sake.
Only
uh
it's
it's
not
it
it's
kind
of
weird,
because
it's
not
really
a
transfer.
uh
It's
just
it's
going
from
one
dfa
code
to
the
other.
So
that's
why
it
has
to
be
on
here,
because
otherwise
our
dfa
resolution
will
take
note
and
they'll
they'll
reject
it,
uh
but
it's
actually
not
any
movement
of
money.
Yes,
um
there
was
use
of
premium
bond
premiums
for
several
projects,
and
you
will
see
those
on
actually
in
the
previous
section.
I
But
in
there
in
a
sense,
you
can
see
that
they're
kind
of
double
counted,
because
those
are
where
the
actual
money
is
moving
the
ones
and
that
you
refer
to
uh
counselor
vehicle.
Copper
are
really
just
kind
of.
If
anything,
a
redundancy
or
you
know
all
all
of
those
summed
up
again
uh
in
a
way.
That's
that's
kind
of
you
know
redundant,
but
it
unfortunately
has
to
be
on
there
uh
or
else.
Dfa
is
gonna,
come
back
and
say:
well,
I'm
not
approving
your
fourth
quarter,
because
you
didn't
include
this
movement
between
dfa
categories.
I
I
uh
The
ones
that
you
refer
to
in
the
second
section,
the
not
previously
approved,
are
just
this
uh
redundant
redundancy.
That's
not
really,
you
know
affecting
our
system.
It
just
affects
our
dfa
reporting
and
that's
why
it
has
to
be
there
and
you
know,
because
you
didn't
approve.
The
council
approved
the
transfers
once
they
didn't
approve
the
transfers
twice.
I
I
uh
Mr
chair
uh
counselor,
vo
koppler,
uh
I
I
uh
suppose
it
could
be.
uh
uh
You
know
creatively
rewarded.
I
just
didn't
wanna
uh
get
too
specific
with
you
know.
This
is
a
dfa
only
adjustment,
because
then
dfa
is
going
to
come
back
and
say
what
the
heck
are
you
doing.
You
know
what.
Why
are
you
doing
this?
F
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A
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H
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E
Is
mr
brooks
here
yes
counselor,
I'm
here.
I
just
wanted
to
pull
this
and
um
make
a
comment
of
what
an
exceptional
job
I
think
you've
done
on
this
and
how
much
you've
accomplished.
It's
amazing
how,
when
we
get
some
money,
how
much
we
can
get
done,
and
it's
it's
really
very
pleasing.
um
I'm
really
grateful
to
you
um
for
working
so
hard
on
these
projects
and
getting
them
on
our
summer
2021
plan.
A
F
Thank
you
uh
I'll,
extend
it.
Thank
you
as
well.
Then
I
appreciate
it.
My
question,
um
I
can't
recall-
and
we
probably
did
meet
on
this,
but
I
just
have
a
question
about
how
these
roads
were
chosen.
Is
there
a?
Is
there
a,
I
guess,
there's
a
master
plan
of
maybe
the
worst
roads
and
then
perhaps
that's
probably
how
these
got
chosen.
J
Yes
count:
uh
yes,
counselor.
We
we,
we
have
a
master
list
of
of
the
roads
that
are
in
in
you,
know,
different
stages
of
and
conditions,
and
the
reason
that
these
roads
were
chosen
is
because
they
are
in
in
fairly
poor
condition
and
if
we
don't
get
to
them
fairly
quickly,
then
they'll
deteriorate
further,
which
will
just
increase
our
costs
and
and
these
roads
are,
you
know
uh
mostly
um
arterials
and
and
and
major
feeders.
J
You
know
like,
then,
so
we
feel
that
they
need
to
be
done.
We've
also
included
some
residential
roadways
in
here
that
are
in
extremely
bad
shape
and,
and
we
feel
that
every
every
time
we
do
get
money
that
we
need
to
start
working
on
some
of
our
more
residential
areas
and
taking
care
of
those
roads
before
they
deteriorate
to
the
point
of
of
a
total
reconstruction.
F
F
A
Question
for
approval
by
council
lindell
seconded
by
conservio
copler.
uh
I
did
want
to
thank
you
mark
for
including
all
four
districts
in
this
rehab
project.
um
I
think
it's
important
to
spread
it
out,
um
it's
important
to
all
of
our
constituents.
So
thank
you
for
that
appreciate
it
in
a
second,
no
further
discussion.
We
have
a
roll
call.
Please
miss
this.
H
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E
A
H
B
uh
Mainly
the
changes
to
the
uh
thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
for
the
question
council,
garcia,
chairman
um
rivera.
The
main
point
of
the
amendment
is
to
incorporate,
as
it
says,
in
the
caption
the
specifications
of
the
community
guided
design,
as
well
as
to
elaborate
on
the
public
ongoing
public
engagement
that
will
incur
during
that
um
installation.
H
B
uh
Yes,
it's
in
the
uh
thank
you
for
that
question
too,
um
the
it's
it's
in
the
um
implementation
plan
portion
where
you
get
more
graphics.
It's
got
like
the
map
with
the
dots
and
um
it
has
some
uh
pictures
and
tables
the
rest
of
it's
really
uh
the
contract
itself
and
then
the
amendment
document
um
and
so
the
that's
where
you'll
find
it.
We
also
have
a
short
presentation
about
the
community
guided
design
if
you'd
like
us
to
walk
through,
I
mean
about
the
ongoing
community
engagement
during
the
implementation.
H
H
But
I
do
not
see
the
specific
language
so
just
to
refresh
folks
memory
on
on
the
matter.
During
our
may
26th
governing
body
meeting.
When
we
were
discussing
the
lighting
plan,
councilwoman
beer
real
had
explicitly
asked
that
there
be
a
uh
a
pause
for
what
she
considered
a
before
after
analysis
between
the
lighting
phases,
and
this
would
be
between
each
phase,
and
I
do
not
see
that
language.
I
see
kind
of
an
ongoing
process,
but
I
don't
see
language
to
where
once
phase
one
is
done.
H
B
um
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
question
council
garcia.
Actually,
um
so
what
we've
done
is
we're
front
loading,
the
public
engagement,
so
each
each
section
will
take
a
little
over
a
month
and
so
we'll
be
gathering
public
engagement
from
the
very
beginning
of
each
uh
section
and
responding.
It
will
be
looking
at
it
weekly
as
a
project
team
reporting
on
uh
the
feedback
to
the
public
works
and
utilities
committee.
Every
two
weeks
um
and
that'll
give
us
an
opportunity
to
respond
to
the
individual
feedback,
um
and
just
to
note
uh
there
was
no.
B
The
uh
formal
action
by
the
governing
body
did
not
include
direction
for
a
pause
um
and
so
that
there
is
not
a
pause
incorporated
and
it
would
be
um
detrimental
to
the
project
to
to
pause
as
well
as
um
whatever
would
be
perceived
of,
as
the
change
at
that
point
would
be
a
contract,
change
and
equipment
change.
So
what
we
did
was
we
are
gathering
actionable
feedback,
um
five
questions
in
specific:
um
do
you
uh
desire
additional
shielding?
Are
you
experiencing
a
fugitive
light
from
a
streetlight?
That's
been
swapped,
and
do
you
need
additional
shielding?
B
Would
you
support
um
additional
dimming
strategies
in
your
community?
Does
your
neighborhood
need
additional
light,
poles
or
fewer
light
poles,
and
what
is
your
overall
experience
of
the
project,
and
so
those
are
the
pieces
of
feedback
that
we'll
be
gathering,
and
we
can
certainly
respond
to
those
as
we're
moving
through
the
project.
H
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
I
really
appreciate
the
you
know
the
questions
and
the
engagement,
but
I
do
have
to
clarify
for
the
record.
There
was
a
request
made
by
governing
body
members
during
that
meeting
and
I'm
happy
to
run
through
the
dialogue
with
you
if
you'd
like,
but
there
was
clear
direction
given
from
council
bia
real,
leaving
clear
response
from
you
receiving
that
direction,
as
well
as
clear
direction
from
uh
councillor
romero
worth
asking.
H
If
we
needed
to
incorporate
that
direction
in
the
motion
and
we've
got
the
confirmation
from
the
city
attorney
saying
no,
we
that
direction
was
given.
So
um
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
that
direction
was
given
and
if
it's
needed
to
be
for
me
to
provide
that
information
to
the
entire
governing
body,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
do
so,
um
because
it
is
on
the
record
that
we
requested
such
information.
H
I
I
would
uh
respectfully
ask
that
in
this
amendment
it
be
incorporated
that
the
direction
that
we
gave
during
our
may
26
meeting
be
incorporated
into
this
amendment.
As
requested
um
that
that
was
the
discussion
is.
How
do
we
incorporate
the
pause,
the
the
uh
before
after
analysis
into
the
amendment,
and
um
there
was,
as
I
mentioned,
there
was
a
lengthy
discussion
between
uh
councilwoman
beer,
real,
the
city
attorney
mcsherry
uh
yourself,
that
that
verified
what
the
direction
was
um
so
uh
I'll,
I'm
more
than
happy
to
send
you
that
language.
H
B
H
But
that's
two
of
the
folks.
I
mean
you're
you're,
going
back
to
a
meeting.
You
can't
count
out
the
remainder
of
the
governing
body
during
that
process
because
that
direction
was
given
and
should
that
direction
not
wanted
to
be
taken
by
city
staff.
I
wouldn't
have
voted
on
the
measure
in
the
way
I
did
because
it
was
confirmed
that
that
was
going
to
be
incorporated
into
this
amendment.
H
I
mean
it.
Would
it
clear
you
clearly
stated
I
mean
when
council
re
councilwoman
via
real
asked
that
we're
going
to
do
this
per
phase.
I
mean
I
have
it
here,
written
down
that
she
says.
Okay
per
phase
and
you
said
perfect,
is
correct
and
then
she
asks
what's
the
timeline
to
get
the
amendment
you
just
go
on
to
say,
we'll
be
developing
it
and
we'll
go
through
the
committee
process
and
later
on,
uh
council
romeroworth
asks.
Does
this
need
to
be
incorporated?
H
And
so
with
that,
I
guess
if
there's
no
other
questions,
then
uh
I'll
make
a
motion
to
ensure
that
the
language
requested
by
the
governing
body
during
the
may
26
to
incorporate
a
pause
after
each
phase
to
get
before
after
analysis
be
included.
In
the
amendments.
That's
before
the
governing
body
on
wednesday.
A
H
H
That
was
a
main
reason
why
I
voted
for
that
measure
in
our
may
26th
meeting,
so,
given
that
we
technically
didn't
formally
include
it
in
the
amendment
that
was
at
the
direction
of
the
city
attorney
because,
as
we
go
on
further
in
that
portion
of
that
meeting,
council
council
romero
worth
asks
just
to
be
clear.
We
don't
need
to
add
this
direction
to
the
motion.
H
Then
mayor
webber
states,
that
is
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
city
attorney
and
then
council
romero
says
all
right.
Just
checking
in
we
hear
the
motion.
We
we
all
vote
to,
approve
it,
because
we
we
were,
I
was
under
the
assumption.
It
didn't
need
to
be
technically
given
we
had
went
through
the
process
and
our
city
attorney
verified.
The
direction
was
given
to
staff
to
do
so,
and
now
we're
at
this
juncture
where
that
amend.
That
request
was
not
included
in
this
amendment.
H
E
Well,
it
does,
um
however,
I
I
do
hear
that
director
wheeler
also
had
a
conversation
with
counselor
via
real
who
originally
brought
it
up
and
additionally
councilor
romero
worth
and
that
they
were
both
satisfied
with
the
process.
That's
being
put
forth
here.
So
um
maybe,
if
you
maybe
well,
I
would
be
more
comfortable
if
you
made
an
amendment
to
this
um
asking
for
that
that
it's
an
amendment
right
rather
than
just
say
as
saying
that
it
should
be
included
in
this
amendment.
It
sounds
to
me
like
it
needs
to
be
amended.
H
I
I
agree,
but
I
think
the
frustration
lies
that
it
wasn't
included
per
the
direction
of
the
governing
body
when
we
voted.
I
understand
that
there
was
conversations
had
with
councilwoman
villarreal
and
council
romeroworth.
I
also
had
a
conversation
with
councillor
bureau
and
she
was
in
the
same
thought
as
I
was
because
I
actually
provided
her
with
all
the
information
and
she
was
going
to
from
from
the
last.
I
spoke
with
her
reach
out
to
director
wheeler
to
try
to
get
this
information
included
in
the
amendment
as
requested.
H
H
B
B
That's
a
public
works
and
utilities
committee
meeting,
and
so
I
just
like
to
clarify
that
the
direction
that
was
given
in
the
conversation
that
was
had
has
been
responded
to
in
a
very
meaningful
and
robust
way,
um
and
that
I
think,
uh
if
they're,
the
pause
um
is
the
only
thing
that
is
not
there.
So
it's
not
that
we
aren't
not
uh
responding
to
the
direction.
F
Thank
you,
uh
mr
chair.
I
you
know
when
we
have
this
discussion
about
the
street
lights.
As
you
recall,
it
was
just
a
very
you
know,
controversial
everybody
have
different
opinions
about
it,
and-
and
if
I
recall
um
you
know,
we
wanted
to
have
some
kind
of
oversight
by
an
outside
party
to
determine
how
how
I
guess
the
quality
control
of
of
how
this
would
happen.
And
so
you
might
recall
too
that
we
went
through.
F
I
you
know
when
this
is
implemented,
so
so
I
felt
get
about
that.
I
remember
the
discussion
and
thought
well.
um
Okay,
there
was
a
level
of
trust,
uh
I
have
to
say
whereby
you
know:
okay,
it's
informal,
but
everybody
knows
on
this
governing
body
that
um
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
do
a
little
pause.
Maybe
it's
a
short
pause.
I
don't
know
we
didn't
ever
really
identify
the
pause,
but
you
know
I
could
see
it
just
saying:
oh
yeah,
look
that
that
feels
good.
It
works.
Let's
move
on.
Okay,
that
looks
good.
It
works.
F
Let's
move
on
that's
kind
of
how
I
envisioned
it.
It
would
be
um
kind
of
a
real
time
effect.
How
is
this
working,
and
so
that
made
me
feel
a
lot
better
when
I
voted
for
this
and
and
you
know,
as
we
often
do,
we
get
convinced
not
to
put
something
in
uh
in
our
contracts
or
in
our
amendments
or
in
our
resolutions.
F
Oftentimes.
We
do
this
because
we've
discussed
something
to
death
and
to
create
language
to
amend
something
right
on
the
spot.
It
it
takes
some
some
effort,
and
so
again
I
think
it
was
a
level
of
trust
when
it
was
asked
by
council
romero
worth
don't.
Do
we
need
to
put
this
in
the
resolution
or
in
the
amendment,
and
so
because
of
maybe
one
of
those
things
I
just
mentioned.
We
said
no
well,
let's
just
yeah,
we
understand
it.
uh
I
think
ms
wheeler,
you
said
that
I
understand
and
and
then
we'll
we'll
just
incorporate
it.
F
You
know
as
we
go
into
this
particular
amendment,
we're
looking
at
today.
So
every
time
we
do
things
like
this,
I
think
a
level
of
trust
is
is
affected
and
I
don't
know
what's
wrong
with
with
doing
that.
As
long
as
we,
you
know,
don't
take
all
the
time
in
the
world
because
different
sections
of
our
streets
are,
I
think
the
lighting
is
going
to
be
a
little
different
and,
and
it
happens
to
murgatroyd,
I'm
not
thinking
that
we're
going
to
go
back
and
start
over.
Hopefully
it's
just
a
time
to
reflect
is
this.
F
F
A
level
of
trust
that
okay,
everybody
agrees,
this
and
staff
agrees.
This
is
what's
going
to
happen
and
then
it
doesn't
happen,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
supporting
this.
I,
I
think,
there's
two
things.
One
is
the
issue
and
the
other
one
is,
you
know
we
have
to
abide
by
what
commitments
were
made
and
honor
them,
and
so
that's
what
I
have
to
say.
Mr
chair.
A
A
We
hear
this
again
in
two
days
at
the
entire
uh
governing
body
meeting,
so
it
gives
staff
time
to
look
through
uh
minutes.
um
I
guess
have
further
discussions
with
councilor
vial
and
uh
in
uh
council
of
maryland
worth
to
see
if
there's
any
additional
uh
thoughts
that
they
had,
but
without
a
clear
definition.
A
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
think
you
brought
up
a
great
point,
which
is
why
there
was
the
direction
to
work
with
staff,
to
create
this
amendment
to
incorporate
that
critical
information
such
as
what
does
a
pause
look
like,
I
think
uh
you
know,
as
counselor
vehicle
koppler
mentioned,
there
was
that
discussion
and
we
don't
want
to
hash
out
the
amendments
there.
During
the
26th
meeting,
we
can
go
back
and
figure
it
out
that
way.
H
H
H
So
it
it
it
to
me,
it
seemed
like
staffs
just
didn't,
follow
the
direction
we
gave,
which
to
me
is
very
frustrating
and
concerning
um
and
just
to
clarify
for
the
record
um
I
did
meet
with
director,
wheeler
and
and
the
delca
representatives,
and
during
that
meeting
I
did
ask
for
you
know
how
was
the
incorporation
of
the
pause
that
was
requested
involved
in
this
process,
and
director
wheeler
gave
me
the
responsive.
That
was
never
a
request
which
made
me
feel
like.
H
We've
now
found
out
in
this
instance
that,
because
it
wasn't
incorporated
into
the
motion,
staff
felt
like
they
didn't
have
to
follow
direction.
We've
heard
from
uh
you
know
our
city
attorney
in
the
past.
That
resolutions
aren't
necessarily
law
binding.
So
if
folks
don't
want
to
follow
them,
they
don't
have
to
follow
them,
and
I
think
this
is
begs
to
big
the
bigger
question
of
then.
What
is
the
ultimate
role
of
the
city
council?
H
H
Sure
it's
at
so
this
is
that
hour,
six
minute,
34
beginning
at
second
28.
You
know,
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
read
through
the
dialogue
for
you
so
councilwoman
via
real
stated
from
what
I
understand
my
requirement
to
do
a
phase
by
phase
approach
with
the
pause
between
the
phases
so
that
we
can
do
a
before
after
analysis.
H
What's
the
next
requirement
for
approval
that
we
that
we
would
be
able
to
add
that
language,
then
the
city
attorney
city
attorney,
mccherry
states?
I
think
we
will
be
bringing
forward
an
amendment
that
will
incorporate
this
lighting
plan.
So
the
amendment
can
also
address
other
priorities
of
the
contract.
H
I
think
it
needs
to
be
explicit
and
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
the
best
language
for
tonight,
but
you
are
saying
that
it's
not
in
this
phase
as
part
of
the
lighting
plan,
but
the
phasing
of
the
next
steps,
whatever
form
that
comes
in
you,
set
a
resolution
and
then
city
attorney
make
sure
he
says.
The
resolution
I
was
speaking
of
would
be
if
we
wanted
to
ask
for
dark
side,
dark
sky
consultant
or
something
like
that
to
set
up
new
standards
of
dark
sky
or
propose
for
that.
H
I
think
we
can
do
the
amendment
all
at
once.
I
think
what
regina
was
planning
to
do
was
put
forth
an
amendment
incorporating
the
lighting
design,
if
adopted
tonight.
This
isn't
a
final
vote
on
the
contract
amendment
that
needs
to
be
prepared,
but
the
contract
amendment
could
include
other
things
as
well,
so
it
will
be
essential.
H
Amendment
number
one
to
the
contract
that's
named
here
and
what
would
be
included
in
the
lighting
design,
and
I
think,
regina
and
delqia
need
to
look
at
other
areas
of
the
contract
to
speak
to
timing
of
the
phasing
and
that
type
of
thing,
and
then
we
would
need
to
insert
it
in
there,
I'm
not
sure
off
the
top
of
my
head
where
it
needs
to
go.
Then
council
via
real,
says:
okay.
So
in
that
case,
what's
the
timeline
for
us
to
get
that
section
back
to
us
for
approving
the
final
contract?
H
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
place
to
hold
the
idea
of
gathering
feedback
as
we
go
then
councilwoman
berea
says:
okay
per
phase,
you
mean
director,
says
per
phase
correct,
councilwoman,
be
a
reality
and
what
timeline
to
get
that
amendment
and
director
wheeler?
We
will
be
developing
it
and
I
thought
where
it
would
go
through
the
committee
council
process
so
probably
back
to
the
governing
body
in
a
month
and
a
half
councilwoman
brielle,
okay
and
it
will
go
through
committee
director
wheeler.
I
thought
it
should
yeah.
It
seems
to
be
appropriate.
H
We
have,
we
do
have
the
crunch
of
getting
it
installed,
but
we
built
that
time
to
get
through
the
amendment
through
the
committee
council
process.
Councilwoman
brielle,
I
don't
want
to
be
wordsmithing
it
so
much
in
the
committee
process.
So
I'd
like
the
language
to
be
in
the
amendment
you
are
talking
about
and
then
we
can
make
the
adjustments
as
needed
thanks.
That's
all
I
have
then
council
council
romero
worth
so
just
to
be
clear.
We
don't
need
to
add
this
to
the
direction
of
the
motion.
H
B
Chairman,
I'm
sorry
about
that.
um
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
I'm
not
ignoring
um
gut
guidance.
We
did
do
a
lot
of
work
on
a
public
engagement
process
to
be
able
to
get
actionable
feedback
as
we're
doing
the
installation.
um
The
idea
of
different
lighting
for
different
parts
of
town
actually
is
interesting.
One.
um
The
governing
body
has
already
approved
the
lighting
design,
which
specifies
the
equipment
and
that
will
be
incorporated
into
the
contract
and
it
will
in
fact,
be
ordered
and
purchased.
B
So
um
the
idea
of
changing
the
lighting
design
midway
through
the
project
is
a
very
expensive
consideration,
um
and
maybe
I
should
have
been
more
explicit
about
that
sooner,
um
so
we're
being
very
intentional
about
the
feedback
that
we're
getting,
but
we
can't
change
the
equipment
midway
through
the
project
we
have
the
lowest
kelvin
lighting
we
can
have.
We
have
the
lowest
lumen
lighting
that
we
can
have
in
meat
standards.
B
um
It's
been
specified
and
approved.
I
mean
so
we're
happy
to
take
feedback
on
goingly
and
certainly
have
these
discussions
on
every
two
week
basis
with
this
committee.
So
uh
without
a
pause,
the
uh
we
can
certainly
uh
make
any
adjustments
that
are
possible,
but
changing
the
lights
is
not
gonna,
be
one
of
the
things
that's
possible,
and
so
I
guess
if
that
is
the
goal
um
that
I
just
need
to.
B
So
all
of
the
elements
of
the
feedback
were
very
carefully
incorporated
and
actually
even
expanded,
um
and
the
only
thing
that
is
not
there
is
the
pause,
but
we
decided
that
we
were
doing
better
than
that
by
starting
early
and
communicating
often
uh
reviewing
the
feedback
weekly
and
then
talking
to
the
public
works
committee
every
two
weeks.
So
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
use
the
feedback
to
improve
the
project,
um
but
the
change
in
the
equipment
is
not
one
of
the
things
that
we'll
be
able
to
do.
A
L
H
H
E
Thank
you
chair.
um
As
the
motion
stands,
I
I'm
I'm
going,
I'm
not
going
to
support
it,
because
I
want
the
motion.
um
It
can
have
an
amendment
a
governing
body,
but
um
I'm
not
comfortable
just
tacking
something
on
verbally
to
it
at
this
point
in
time.
That's
what
got
us
to
where
we
are
in
this
discussion
right
now,
so
um
I
don't
want
to
go
through
this
again.
um
So
that's
the
reason
that
I
won't
be
supporting
this
motion
as
it
stands.
Thank
you,
chair.
A
A
A
Thank
you,
my
recommendation,
uh
counselor
garcia,
is
uh
probably
an
amendment
prepared
on
a
written
sheet
is
probably
the
best
way
to
address
what
you
think
needs
to
go
in
there
and
then
a
further
discussion,
probably
by
the
entire
governing
body,
so
um
that
motion
uh
fails
to
have
that.
Do
we
have
another
motion
to
uh
approve
it,
move
for
approval.
H
H
F
A
B
uh
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
um
and
for
the
public
works
committee.
um
I
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
bicentennial
pool.
um
You
saw
today
that
there
was
a
motion
bar
to
move
some
capital
funds
into
road,
paving.
um
There
are
capital
funds
available
right
now
and
um
and
we
are
earmarking,
some
of
them
for
the
bicentennial
pool.
However,
we
um
had
another
contractor
declined
to
give
us
a
bid.
um
Last
week
um
he's
a
great
contractor.
His
name
is
steve
kraft
from
westcon.
E
Thank
you,
um
ms
wheeler.
How
are
we
doing
on
having
um
project
managers
to
oversee
this
kind
of
project?
We
we've
got.
I
know
a
ton
of
projects,
I'm
super
grateful
um
that
we're
moving
along
the
bicentennial
pool.
It
was
really
necessary
to
have
that
happen.
um
It's
our
outdoor
pool
and
it's
really
important.
B
uh
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question
uh
chairman
and
counselor
lindell.
um
We
are
extremely
short
of
project
uh
managers
across
the
board
in
public
works.
um
We
do
have
uh
a
posting
right
now
that
will
close
in
a
couple
of
days
where
we're
hoping
we
have
four
project
administrator
positions
that
we're
um
trying
to
fill
one
in
parks,
one
in
transit
um
and
two
infusion,
one
in
uh
one
in
engineering
and
one
in
facilities
as
well,
um
we'll
be
lucky
to
get
one
solid
candidate
that
we
can
hire.
B
B
At
this
time
there
are
some
really
great
resources
available
to
the
city
um
that
we
can
utilize
once
we
give
another
notice,
um
pursue
it
to
the
settlement
and
um
so
we're
working
it
on
all
angles,
and
I
think
everybody's
chipping
in
we've
got
division
directors,
running
projects,
I'm
running
the
streetlight
project.
um
Javier
rosado
was
running
it
before
he
left
to
go
to
the
laboratory.
B
E
B
uh
Thank
you
for
the
question
chairman
councillor
lindell.
um
It's
I
don't
pay
is
not
well.
Pay
is
sort
of
the
answer
because,
when
when
it
comes
to
the
point
of
pay,
it's
sort
of
like
somebody
else
will
pay
them
50
more
than
we
can
right.
So
you
know
along
the
lines
of
how
we
lost
javier,
to
the
rosado
to
the
laboratory
they
were
paying.
B
For
instance,
we
had
a
great
candidate
the
last
time
we
posted
our
project
administrator
position,
who
has
been
in
charge
of
the
gas
system
in
las
cruces
for
years,
and
he
needed
a
little
bit
more
than
mid-range,
which
is
where
it
was
budgeted.
We
were
able
to
put
that
offer
together
and
then
he
declined
he
decided
not
to
move
to
santa
fe.
um
I
think
the
problem
is
just
the
shortage
of
workers.
It's
so
we're
getting
so
few
um
qualified
applicants,
it's
not
that
and
everybody
wants
them
the
county's.
B
uh
I
think
the
thing
we
need
to
do
and
we're
definitely
doing
this
with
hr
and
um
director
jones
may
have
some
to
add
about
this,
because
I
think
they
have
some
of
the
same
challenges
in
uh
in
public
utilities.
um
But
we
are
uh
developing,
like
uh
sam
burnett
posted
our
uh
project,
administrator
opening
on
linkedin
in
a
really
nice
presentation,
and
so
we're
going
to
get
his
template
from
him
and
we're
going
to
all
do
that.
B
Hr
is
working
on
getting
us
a
linkedin
profile
for
the
city
so
that
we
can
do
regular
job
advertising
there.
That's
a
great
way
to
have
people
that
are
in
professionals
that
are
in
the
field,
um
know
about
the
opportunities
and
uh
know
who's
related.
Maybe
a
personal
relationship,
um
and
that's
one
of
the
things
is
so
we're
posting
longer
and
really
trying
to
shake
the
trees,
uh
contact,
universities
and
um
and
professional
organizations
to
try
to
solicit
the
applications,
which
is
just
we're
just
not
getting
applications.
N
uh
Mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I
think
regina
did
a
good
job.
I
think,
as
you
can
tell,
we
don't
think,
there's
one.
um
You
know
one
silver
bullet
that
addresses
our
our
staffing
issues
and
because
the
issues
are
multifaceted,
our
approaches
have
to
be
multifaceted,
and
I
think
that
is
being
taken
into
consideration.
There's
a
lot
of
meetings,
uh
one-on-one
meetings
happening
at
the
department
levels
and
with
and
with
human
resources
to
really
identify
um
what
those
challenges
are
and
how
we
look
to
address
them
again.
N
We
have
to
be
able
to
attract
the
qualified
people
who
are
in
high
demand
and
very
competitive
right
now,
um
so
we
do
have
to
take
that
into
consideration.
um
Also,
looking
at
how
do
we
look
at
upper
mobility,
um
the
people
that
we
have
now?
What
are
the
jobs
they
can
do?
There
are
a
lot
of
people
that
are
stepping
up
um
filling
gaps,
um
but
you
know
but
also
creates
a
gap
and
it
it
has
to
be
relooked
at.
um
I
think
you
know.
Salaries
are
a
part
of
that
um
equation.
N
I
know
it's
that's
being
considered
and
uh
so
again
and
how
we
advertise.
How
do
we
get
the
word
out
to
people
um
what's
what
the
city
of
santa
fe
needs
and
why
we're
the
best
place
to
work?
um
So
again,
I
think
it's
multi-faceted
and
I
think
each
of
those
are
very
in-depth
conversation
points
that
we
are
having.
N
They
either
they
start
and
they
move
on
um
or
um
they
get
a
job
before
they
get
here
or
you
hire
somebody
and
two
more
people
leave
I
mean
it's
just
I
I
see
how
it
can
be
aggravating
and
frustrating,
but
um
I
think
again
developing
the
plan
that
we're
doing
modifying
it
to
fit
our
current
uh
situation.
You
know
how
do
we
adapt
and
then
just
continue
to
work
the
plan
and
allow
the
process
to
work?
N
E
Thank
you,
ms
wheeler.
I
appreciate
it.
I
just
you
know
it's
um
if
there's
something
that
we
need
to
do
to
move
this
along
or
if
we
need
to
reassess,
um
we
should
do
it
instead
of
struggling
along
because
we
we
have
the
funds
right
now
and
we
have
lots
of
projects
that
we
want
to
do,
and
um
I
just
would
like
to
be
as
helpful
as
we
possibly
can,
and
I
I
I
appreciate
how
much
all
you
take
on,
which
is
an
amazing
workload.
So
that's
all
I
have
chair.
Thank
you
very.
E
F
F
I
certainly
know
that
the
cost
benefit
of
the
pool
in
the
in
the
right
now
immediate
future
is
to
do
the
repairs
and
such,
and
I
I
just
am
wondering
if
there's
any
future
planning
on
you
know.
How
long
are
we
going
to
continue
to
make
these
repairs?
How
much
will
they
cost
and
and
how
much
of
that
money
could
go
into
a
new
swimming
pool?
So
what
is
the
cost
benefit?
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
all
those
questions.
Yes,
which
is.
um
I
know
it's
a
big
conversation
that
the
governing
body
would
like
to
have
about
the
um
about
the
pools,
and
this
is
the
thinking.
um
If
we
want
to
think
about
a
new
aquatic
center
somewhere
in
the
city,
um
it
will
be
an
8
to
10
to
12
million
project,
um
and
we
will
are
happy
to
undertake
a
planning
process
and
a
public
engagement
process
to
take
a
look.
Where
should
that
be?
B
What
should
facilities
should
it
have
like
a
bubble
that
goes
up
in
the
winter
and
comes
down
in
the
summer?
So
it's
year-round
what
ancillary
facilities
does
it
have?
What
can
we
afford
from
operating
another
facility
perspective
in
another
pool,
um
and
so
that
conversation,
um
I've,
we've
heard
governing
body
loud
and
clear
that
they're
interested
in
having
that,
and
so
that's
on
our
long-range
plan?
B
Is
it
an
assessment
for
a
new
aquatic
facility,
but
in
the
meantime,
for
um
what
we're
estimating
to
be
a
total
refurbishment
of
the
existing
pool
that
will
last
you
10
to
20
years,
as
well
as
the
facility
itself,
around
1.4
million?
That's
a
big
cost
benefit
to
just
get
that
done,
have
an
outdoor
pool.
While
we
do
the
bigger
sort
of
evaluation
of
um
you
know.
Do
we
want
a
bigger
better
outdoor
aquatic
center?
What
does
it
look
like
and
where
does
it
exist?
So
that's
our
thinking
at
this
time.
B
Yeah,
mr
kraft,
from
wescon.
Yes,
absolutely
so
our
intent
as
soon
as
we
get
the
a
quote
put
together
and
it
looks
like
a
a
good
project
to
propose
for
the
governing
body
will
bring
it
forward
with
the
money
uh
allocat
a
bar
to
allocate
the
funds
for
it
and
let
the
governing
body
decide
if,
if
that
investment
is
one
that
they'd
like
to
move
forward
with
and
with
including
the
details
of
the
work.
A
All
right,
um
ms
wheeler,
uh
you
and
I
spoke
about
this,
but
I'm
I
think
in
the
same
places
counselor
b.
Hill
cobbler
is
looking
for.
um
You
know,
maybe,
instead
of
making
repairs
that
we
do
something
uh
better
than
we
have
so
I
talked
to
you
about
the
pool
that
I
went
to
when
I
was
in
carlsbad
that
had
splash
pads
and
some
small
uh
slides.
You
know
it
wasn't
anything
like
a
huge
park,
but
it
was
a
municipal
uh
pool
that,
had
uh
you
know
some
had
a
small
lazy
river.
A
I
mean
a
pool
it
was.
It
was
good
for
every
age
group,
so
um
you
know
if
we're
to
that
point
where
it
would
be
more
cost
effective
to
do
something
uh
similar
to
that
versus
just
uh
making
some
repairs
for
a
large
amount
of
money.
I
would
be
interested
in
uh
looking
at
both
of
those.
So
uh
thank
you
for
listening.
I
know
you
heard.
uh
I
know
when
I
talked
to
you
before.
We
had
had
a
little
discussion
on
it,
so
just
wanted
to
make
that
known
again.
So
thank
you.
F
Cancel
this
would
let
us
raise
a
left
and
a
right,
but
then
maybe
you
could
tell
now
I
have
a.
I
don't
know
just
a
general
comment
uh
not
to
be
misunderstood,
uh
but
it
seems
to
me
since
we
combined
this
committee
utilities
and
public
works,
the
majority
of
the
reporting
and
the
agenda
items
other
than
sometimes
contractual
things
uh
are
public
works
and
and
no
offense
to
mr
jones,
but
I
feel
like
I'm
not
really
anymore,
knowing
much
about
what's
going
on
at
utilities,
only
when
wastewater
breaks
down,
and
so
um
I'm
not
sure.
A
A
But
I
can
speak
with
mr
jones
and
maybe
incorporate
one
of
those
presentations
which
we've
had
some
discussion
about
already.
Is
each
each
department
uh
do
a
monthly
presentation
um
to
keep
us
up
to
date
on
those
things
that
are
going
on
and
all
the
utilities
so
um
I'll
talk
to
him
more
about
that
before
our
next
meeting.
F
F
F
um
I
know
there's
things
going
on
there,
so
I
I
just
would
have
feel
um
like
there
should
be
a
venue,
since
uh
that
is
part
of
this
committee,
where
we
should
be
updated
on
on
a
lot
of
things
that
are
happening
there,
uh
especially
because
a
lot
of
the
effort
is
our
water
planning
and
and
uh
that's
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
right
now.
So
thank
you.