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A
B
B
Am
here
we
have
a
quorum,
let's
move
on
Forum.
Thank
you.
No
problem,
I
I
popped
on
in
there
for
you
moving
on
to
approval
of
the
agenda.
Do
we
have
any
changes.
B
Second
Motion
in
a
second
all,
those
in
favor,
say
aye.
Any
opposed
motion
passes.
Moving
on
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
I
have
that
we
have
items
C
pulled
by
counselor
Lee
Garcia
I
pulled
by
councilor
Chavez
K
pulled
by
counselor
councilman
veteriel
and
councilor
Lee
Garcia
and
item
L
pulled
by
councilor
Michael
Garcia
and
counselor
Lee
Garcia
any
other
items
that
anyone
would
like
to
move
from
the
consent
agenda
and,
if
not,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve,
as
amended.
F
B
G
I,
of
course,
would
love
to
be
there
in
person
with
everyone
I'm
out
in
at
a
Chiefs
conference
down
in
Albuquerque
and
so
I've,
never
done
a
zoom
or
other
kind
of
presentation
from
a
hotel
room.
So
we'll
see
how
this
goes.
G
Okay,
all
right
so
yeah
I'm
gonna
work
through
this
again.
My
name
is
Paul
Joy
chief
police,
Santa,
Fe
police
department
and
I'm
gonna
go
through
our
staffing,
update
kind
of
where
we
started
a
year
ago,
where
we've
been
a
little
bit
over
the
last
few.
H
G
Where
we
are
today
and
kind
of
what
that
means
for
us
with
the
future
and
what
our
plans
are,
so
if
anyone
has
any
questions
along
the
way
feel
free
to
stop.
Of
course,
at
the
end,
I'll
be
available
for
questions
okay,
so
in
2022
I'm
trying
to
move
myself
here
too
on
the
screen.
Oh
all
right.
So
in
2022
again
our
vacancy
rate
was
22
and
we
over
the
year
have
gone
down
to
10,
and
so
the
question
is:
how
did
we
get
here
and
so.
G
So
again,
December
2021.
This
is
when
I
took
over
as
interim
chief
of
police.
As
you
all
know,
our
department
is
allotted
for
169
sworn
positions
when
I
took
over
in
2021
in
December
we're
at
32
vacancies,
which
is
a
vacancy
rate
of
18.9
percent,
but
going
back
to
2018.
We
have
not
had
vacancies
less
than
20
since
since
that
time,
and
again,
just
going
over
historically,
as
you
can
see,
these
are
from
21
2021
I'm,
going
back
to
2016.
G
G
So,
taking
over
the
first
thing,
I
did
my
My
Command
Staff
did.
Is
we
had
a
lot
of
conversations
our
folks
on
the
street
in
the
field
handling
Hollister
Service?
We
wanted
to
get
their
input,
give
them
a
say,
give
them
some
ownership.
I
tried
to.
G
Let
them
know
that
this
department
is
as
much
theirs
as
it
is
mine
and
they
are
as
as
accountable
for
what
we
do
and
how
we
do
it
as
I
am,
and
their
opinion
matters
their
thoughts,
the
things
that
they
see
things
that
they
deal
with.
It's
important
to
me
that
I
get
that
input
and
and
I
need
that
honest,
honest
feedback.
So
myself,
my
Deputy
Chiefs,
we
went
to
a
lot
of
briefings.
It
had
to
sometimes
a
little
bit
like
kind
of
a
pulling
teeth.
G
People
don't
want
to
tell
you
things
if
they
think
it's
it's
they're
going
to
get
in
trouble
or
they
think
it's
going
to
reflect
poorly
on
them.
I
I
wanted
to
reiterate
to
them
I
like
criticism.
It
helps
me
be
better.
It
helps
the
department
be
better
and
them
holding
back
on
on
what
they
feel
and
and
what
they're
dealing
with
doesn't
do
me
any
favors,
and
so
it
was
important
that
they
know
that
I'm
responsible
to
them
as
well
and
their
input
is
very
important.
G
G
All
of
these
were
helpful
and
then
deputy
chief
Champlin,
who
was
the
captain
of
Patrol
at
the
time
he
and
I,
and
some
of
the
other
commanders
started
doing
some
evaluations
about.
How
can
we
make
the
Staffing
that
we
do
have?
How
can
we
make
it
most
efficient
for
what
we're
we're
working
with
and
and
especially
with
our
our
vacancy
deficiencies.
G
Foreign,
those
in
that
evaluation,
we
talked
a
lot
about
looking
at
again
during
the
week.
What
was
the
spread
of
our
calls
for
service
for
those
who
I've
had
conversations
with
over.
I
G
May
have
heard
me
say
that
our
common
day
is
Friday,
and
so
what
does
that
mean?
That
means
all
four
of
our
Patrol
teams
for
each
shift
are
all
working
on
Friday,
which
is
good
in
that
Friday
is
also,
generally
speaking,
our
highest
call
volume
day.
However,
it's
also
the
day
that
our
special
operations
teams
do
a
lot
of
their
training,
and
so,
although
we're
we
have
our
highest
level
of
Staffing
on
paper,
it's
also
when
we
have
to
pull
from
some
of
our
staffing
for
these
Special
Operations
trainings.
G
So
we
looked
at
social
operations
schedule
our
Patrol
schedules.
Our
criminal
investigation
schedules
look
at
our
PSAs
Public
Safety
AIDS,
it's
just
kind
of
a
top
to
bottom
analysis
about
what
where
we
were
and
are
we
operating
at
the
at
the
highest
level
that
we
can
be
also
our
cop
logic
policy
and
program.
Our
online
reporting.
G
G
We
also
moved
for
the
PSAs
from
support
operations
to
patrol.
Generally
speaking,
our
PSAs
would
be
out
assigned
to
support
operations,
our
traffic
units
to
assist
with
crashes
and
some
of
these
low-level
reporting
by
moving
into
Patrol
it.
It
gives
it
bolsters
their
ability
on
patrol
to
help
with
these.
After
the
fact,
low-level
non-violent,
offenses
and,
and
also
our
topologic
policy,
was
outdated
to
allow
for
more
people
to
review
and
access
and
approve
and
deny
copologic
reports,
which
frees
up
our
Patrol
supervisors.
H
G
Help
with
calls
for
service
and
work
with
dispatch
to
prioritize
calls
and
as
a
result
of
those
changes,
our
response
time
to
Priority
One
calls
over
the
year
decreased
by
18.5
percent.
G
Changes
and
updates
in
the
administration's
division
now
administration's
division.
They
house
our
training,
recruiting
police
community
relations,
our
budget,
but
it's
it's
they're,
the
they're.
What
supports
our
operations
and
and
helps
them
do
what
they
do.
So
we
increase
the
Staffing
of
our
recruiting
unit
by
one
we
moved
one
officer
over
understanding.
It
was
going
to
be
a
pain
in
the
on
the
front
end,
but
hopefully
pay
dividends
in
the
back
end.
G
We
also
temporarily
moved
one
detective
from
our
Intel
unit
over
to
assist
with
recruiting
to
help
with
backgrounds.
The
backgrounds
can
be
a
pretty
laborious
process.
It
can
take
anywhere
from
a
few
weeks
to
a
couple
of
months
or
longer,
depending
on
how
often
the
person
has
moved
around
what
their
employment's
been
there's
a
number
of
factors
that
go
into
getting
a
background
completed
successfully.
G
We
also
wanted
to
make
sure
that
our
recruiting
unit
now
with
the
extra
officer
were
being
more
proactive,
going
out
to
community
events,
trying
to
be
seen
more
interact,
more
be
more
available
to
people
who
would
call
in
and
ask
questions
another
thing
that
was
done
on
DC
Valdez.
He
had
been
pushing
for-
and
this
is
something
that
he
had
started
earlier
in
2021,
but
updating
the
look
of
the
Department
inside
again.
This
helps
our
officers.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
got.
G
Feedback
on
was
updating
the
inside
making
making
it
look
nicer.
They
work
here
they
want
where
they
work
to
look
next,
and
so
the
flooring
was
updated.
The
paint
was
updated,
they
updated
some
of
the
computer
terminals
in
the
patrol
Bay.
We
also
made
some
updates
to
the
uniforms.
There's
also
always
a
traditional
that
you
folks
may
have
seen
me
wear
that's
our
standard
uniform,
but
we
did
put
together
a
uniform
committee
to
review
some
alternate
uniforms.
G
What
was
going
to
be
a
little
more
have
more
utility
to
what
they
do
so
they're,
not
carrying
everything
on
their
belts
effectively
build
more
longevity
in
their
career.
There's
always
concern
about
lower
back
pain
for
those
who
who
see
issues
of
First
Responders.
G
So
that
was
another
thing
that
was
was
done
and
shared
with
the
officers.
Another
thing
with
these
conversations
that
we
had
was
there
are
a
lot
of
these
things
that
were
in
motion
and
being
discussed,
but
the
line
officers
line
officers
didn't
know
that
and-
and
that
was
honestly
that's
a
failure
of
the
Command
Staff
to
not
share
and
let
them
know
hey.
This
is
what
we're
doing.
This
is
what
we're
doing
for
you.
G
Positive
changes-
and
this
was
this-
was
I-
mean
this
can't
be
understated
at
all.
G
How
the
the
contract
that
was
pushed
for
and
approved
by
the
mayor
and
and
city
council
provided
a
16
raise
for
our
union
members
across
the
board,
and
this
moved
our
agency
up
among
the
top
in
the
state
for
wages,
and
we
also
expanded
the
the
take
home
radius
from
55
miles,
255
miles
from
45
miles
this
again
allowed
for
officers,
especially
lateral
officers,
who
have
been
reaching
out
for
some
time
who
work
for
other
agencies
would
like
to
come
to
us,
but
it
the
commute
on
their
personal
vehicles
are
trying
to
find
substation
somewhere.
G
G
That
was
allowing
them
to
move
and
park
their
personal
cars
and
their
units.
There
also
mayor
Weber
continued
with
the
program
offering
fifteen
thousand
dollars
as
a
signing
bonus
for
lateral
officers.
G
Dc
Valdez
was
it
made
a
big
push
and
we're
we're
moving
forward
with
some
with
a
pretty
large,
substantial
purchase
of
police
units.
This
these
last
couple
of
fiscal
years
have
been
trying
to
get
us
back
to
where
we
would
have
been
pre-covered.
Obviously,
that
took
an
impact
on
us
for
a
couple
years
as
far
as
what
we
were
able
to
purchase
again,
the
expanded
uniform
options
resulting
from
the
uniform
committee
and
flexibility
with
our
appearance
for
those
who
may
have
seen
me
during
no
shape
November.
G
This
is
more
normal
for
me.
I,
look
ridiculous
I
felt
ridiculous,
but
our
officers
were
allowed
to
grow
facial
hair
up
to
a
quarter
of
an
inch.
This
was
actually
something
that
made
national
news
on
the
on
the
police
circuit.
G
There's
some
police
websites
and
police
media
that
we'll
post
updates
and
things
from
around
the
country
and
around
the
world
and
and
I
got
reached
out
to
from
a
couple
of
agencies
and
other
parts
of
the
country
to
get
an
idea
of
what
we
did,
how
we
did
it
and
if
I
could
send
them
a
copy
of
the
order
that
I
put
out.
So
all
of
these
were
again
not
just
aimed
at
enticing.
I
G
Potential
officers,
but
also
bringing
keeping
the
ones
that
we
have
here
wanting
to
be
here
and
and
again
feeling
like
they
have
an
impact
and
the
facial
hair
I
go
back
to
it,
because
it's
not
one
that
I
would
have
expected,
but
it
was
something
when
I
was
having
those
conversations
that
kept
coming
up
pretty
often
and
and
so
yeah
these
guys,
the
ones
who
are
doing
it.
They
look
great
like
it's
not
for
me,
but
we'll
see
moving
on
so
2022
the
maximum
number
of
vacancies
near
the
end
of
June.
G
We
were
at
38.
now
this,
interestingly
enough
of
those
38
for
were
officers
who
had
gone
to
another
department
in.
I
G
Three
of
those
officers
came
back
by
August
and
we're
able
to
see
that
the
you
know
the
things
that
they
had
heard
and
their
thoughts
about
other
departments
and
and
the
whole
Grass
Is
Always
Greener
idea,
they're
they're
very
happy
to
come
back
and
we're
of
course
happy
to
have
them
back.
But
so
now,
as
of
today,
we're
at
17
vacancies,
we
are
expecting
one
more
higher
as
of
December
26th,
which
would
put
us
at
16.
G
So
that's
a
nine
percent
vacancy
So,
currently
at
17
we're
at
10
percent
for
our
vacancy
and
again
of
The
Hires,
the
21
hires.
So
far,
14
have
been
lateral
officers
and
when
we
interview
them,
we
talk
to
them.
One
of
the
questions.
G
I
always
ask
especially
it's
it's
a
big
deal
to
leave
a
department
that
you're
at
especially
if
it's
one
that
you've
spent
some
time
in
and
you
started
it's
not
a
small
thing
to
want
to
start
all
over
again,
you
lose
your
seniority
to
go
to
a
new
agency
and
start
all
over
again
and
so
I
like
to
ask
them
what
why
Santa
Fe?
What's
what's
bringing
you
to
us
and
the
majority
of
them
that
have
had
those
conversations
with
the
answer?
G
I
G
But
but
this
is
much
better
than
we
were
a
year
ago
and
even
in
previous
years.
G
So
what
does
this
mean
with
the
increase
in
Staffing?
The
priority
is,
and
has
been
Patrol
Patrol
is,
is
the
backbone
of
this
department?
Patrol
is
the
first
element
that
responds
to
our
calls
for
service.
Patrol
is
our
most
visible
and
active
deterrent
in
crime
and
prevention
of
crime,
and
so
it's
important
and
I
mean
crucial
for
us
to
make
sure
that
Patrol
is
the
first
to
get
their
the
adequate
Staffing
and
so
with
the
increased
Staffing.
G
That
means
we
have
more
officers
available
to
answer
calls
for
service
to
do
those
proactive
measures
that
we
we
ask
for
and
help
out
with
with
again
be
more
productive
on
operations,
as
well
as
we've
been
able
to
fill
our
vacancies
on
patrol
we've
also
been
able
to
build
and
expand
our
operations
section
and
our
support
operations,
as
well
as
our
criminal
operations.
A
G
G
Having
adequate
Staffing
on
patrol
means
that
we
don't
have
to
pull
our
bike
Team
to
backfill
patrol,
and
so
they
can
stay
focused
and
dedicated
on
what
their
mission
is
same
with
with
traffic
having
adequately
staffed.
Patrol
means
that
we
don't
have
to
pull
from
our
traffic
officers.
To
answer
calls
for
service
for
Patrol
and
again
with
DWI.
We
had
officers
and
detectives
that
on
paper
we
had
promoted,
but
because
the
Staffing
was
what
it
was
with
our
deficiencies
we
weren't
able
to
move
them.
G
So
and
again,
when
we
have
more
opportunity
to
be
proactive
and
more
Staffing
to
be
proactive.
That
means
we
get
to
be
that
proactive
and
prevention
criminal
deterrent.
So
we're
not
just
having
to
respond
to
culture
service.
We
can
actually
be
in
the
area
and
work
around
it,
and
that
includes
my
presentation.
I
can
stop
sharing
here.
B
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
Chief.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here,
for
the
presentation
and
and
for
all
of
the
work
in
progress
that
has
been
made
in
the
department
turned
to
the
committee.
Are
there
any
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
councilor
Lee
Garcia
floor
is
yours.
Thank.
J
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
Chief
joy,
for
the
presentation
also
want
to
extend
a
personal
thank
you
for
what
you
do,
and
your
leadership
for
this
past
year
definitely
see
the
amount
of
officers
out
on
the
streets
and
and
I
think
that
that
says
a
lot
to
the
direction
that
we're
we're
going
with
this,
because
just
just
having
the
presence
is,
is
really
really
really
important
to
our
community
and
and
just
keeping
our
community
safe
and
so
once
again.
J
I
just
I
just
wanted
to
express
my
gratitude
to
what
you've
been
doing
throughout
the
year
and
and
and
it's
visible,
and
we
see
that
and
so
appreciate
the
presentation
and
please
let
all
of
the
officers
know
on
behalf
of
me,
and
that
will
be
all
of
us
that
we
do
appreciate
them.
So
thank
you
much.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
just
want
to
I
I
want
to
emphasize
the
numbers,
Chief
Joy,
because
it's
pretty
amazing,
because
I
think
you
said:
there's
38
vacancies
in
June
correct,
so.
E
In
six
months,
you
have
improved
Staffing
in
regards
to
vacancies
by
58
I.
Think
any
organization
is
probably
not
seeing
that
type
of
improvement
out
there
right
now
with
the
workforce,
so
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
how
building
the
culture
a
lot
of
the
work
that
you're
doing
specifically,
is
having
a
positive
impact,
because
I
think
that's
really
what
draws
people
in,
but
also
keeps
them
so
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you.
E
E
You
know:
I
work
in
the
school
system,
we're
seeing
an
increase
in
behaviors
across
the
entire
community
and
within
within
the
schools
and
I,
know
we're
seeing
that
across
Santa
Fe
as
well.
There's
a
lot
of
people
in
need,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
need
support
and
the
fact
that
you're
building
staff
to
provide
that
to
Santa
Fe
is
very
impressive
and
I.
Appreciate
it
very
much
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
and
applaud
you
for
that
work.
E
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
Chief,
Joy
good
job
I.
Remember
when
we're
going
through
the
hiring
process-
and
this
was
a
priority
for
you
and
and
it's
obvious
that,
with
these
effects
of
the
hires
you've
held
True
to
this
word,
so
thank
you
for
making
this
a
priority
and
I
think
the
residents.
Thank
you.
It's
no
secret
that
that
our
community
is
has
seen
in
uptick
in
the
the
support
needed
on
behalf
of
our
police
team
in
in
force.
K
So
having
the
increase
in
officers
out
there
to
be
able
to
respond
to
those
needs,
is
great
I
mean
it
to
see.
K
We
do
have
a
couple
questions
for
you
just
because
logistical
things,
I
things
I
weren't,
aware
of
copologic
policy.
What
can
you
expand
on
what
complogic
policy
is
just
because
if
I
have
the
question,
I'm
sure,
there's
probably
folks
in
the
community
who
don't
understand
what
topologic
policy
and
help
us
kind
of
better
understand
what
you
and
your
team
are
doing
and
and
what
the
policy
does
and
how
it
impacts.
You
in
your
daily
work
sure.
G
Madam,
chair,
counselor
Garcia,
so
the
when
I
say
the
top
logic
policy
I
mean
the
the
policy
specific
to
our
online
reporting.
The
copologic
recording
and
we've
seen
I've
seen
two
of
mates
off-putting,
but
I'll
do
with
it
fix
my
screen.
It
doesn't
matter
and
if
I
were
at
the
station,
it'd
be
a
little
easier
for
me
to
screen
share.
So
you
can
see
what
I
mean
when
I
talk
about
the
policy,
but
it's
our
online
reporting
system.
G
We
use
that
for
folks
who
call
in
and
they
want
to
report
if
it's
a
larceny,
but
they
don't
have
any
suspect
information.
They
are.
They
need
a
case
number
for
insurance,
but
we
can
send
them
to
the
online
reporting.
That
happens
a
lot.
If
it's
a
lost
item
that
they
need
reporting,
they
need
to
report
so
that
they
can
get
it
replaced
or
like
we
do
it
sometimes,
with
passport
reporting
we
can
send
them
to
coplogic
for
online
reporting.
G
G
Common
after
the
fact
crashes,
if
it's
a
low-level
crash
again,
they
need
a
case
number.
They
need
to
show
that
it
was
documented
for
their
insurance.
We
can
send
them
the
cop
Logic
for
that.
K
Okay,
thank
you.
Chief
I
really
appreciate
that
clarification
next
question
I
had
was
regarding
the
PSAs
and
how
you're
utilizing
them
in
a
different
aspect,
you're
having
them
respond
to
non-emergency
calls
and
I.
Think
in
your
report,
you
said
you
started
to
have
four
PSAs
take
on
those
type
of
Duties.
Do
you
see
maybe
a
need
for
more
than
four
and
the
reason
I
ask
is,
as
we
begin
to
plan
for
next
year's
budget,
should
we
begin
to
prepare
to
increase
the
number
of
PSAs
we
have
in
the
budget.
K
I
mean
this
is
something
that
I've
been
advocating
for
that
we
don't
take
time
away
from
the
sworn
officers
and
and
doing
things
like
reports
where
we
can
send
potentially
a
PSA
to
complete
reports
or
attend
to
those
non-emergency
needs,
and
it
helps
build
the
capacity
of
those
folks
that
that
are
on
the
ground
that
sworn
officers
that
can
respond
to
the
emergency
situation.
So
can
you
tell
me
a
little
bit
more
about
how
that's
working
it's
from
the
report?
It
sounds
like
it's
working.
Do
you
see
an
increased
need
of
it?
G
Manager,
counselor
Garcia,
so
right
now
we
are
at
four
vacancies
for
our
PSAs,
so
we
are
actually
we
just
opened
up
for
testing
again.
I
had
a
conversation
with
someone,
someone
else
who
works
in
the
studio.
I
don't
want
to
approach
from
someone
else,
but
who
wanted
to
get
on
with
the
police
department
didn't
want
to
be
a
police
officer,
but
wanted
to
do
something
in
that
in
that
field,
and
they
felt
that
PSA
would
be
a
good
fit
so
I
I.
Also.
G
Let
them
know
that
we
are
actively
now
testing
for
PSAs,
so
we
have
four
assigned
to
patrol
that's
two
for
swing
ship
two
for
day
shift
and
that's
because,
generally
speaking,
they're
they
get
more
calls
for
service
and
graveyard
graveyard.
G
You
aren't
going
to
get.
We
don't
generally
I'm
speaking
in
generalities,
but
we
don't
usually
get
it
calls
like
that
for
during
graveyard
hours,
if
it's
a
our
White,
Collar
stuff
or
after
the
fact
thefts.
G
Generally
speaking,
those
those
happen
during
day
shift
and
swing
shift
hours.
So
we
have
two
for
each
shift
assigned
and
then
we
have
three
that
are
still
assigned
to
our
support
operations
and
traffic
and
they
help
with
again.
They
also
help
with
low-level
crashes.
They
help
with
traffic
direction
for
Special
Operations.
They
help
with
escorts.
Whenever
we
do
those
so
they're,
okay,
pretty
kind
of
like
a
multi-tool
for
us
PSAs.
They
really
are
a
great
asset
to
us.
I
K
Well,
I'm
glad
it's
working
out
and
I
would
say:
I
would
encourage
you
if
you
see
the
need
there
and
if
and
if
you
feel
it
helps
build
the
capacity
of
your
Force
build
in
those
additional
PSA
positions
into
your
budget,
because
I
think
what
at
least
I'm
hearing
from
my
constituents
loud
and
clear
is
we
need
more
officers
on
the
ground,
responding
to
critical
calls
and,
if
PSAs
help
to
build
that
capacity
to
allow
for
quicker
respond
time
so
be
it
I
I
think
we
we
need
to
build
those
but
positions
into
the
budget.
K
Last
I
guess
last
question
and
with
this
information
this
news
it's
kind
of
a
double-edged
sword.
In
this
sense,
it's
great
it's
fantastic
because
we're
having
a
much
lower
vacancy
rate,
but
on
the
other
side
of
the
coin,
we're
going
to
have
residents
that
are
expecting
response
time
to
drop
dramatically.
Can
you
speak
to
should
six
months
hit
and
folks
are
still
waiting
potentially
hours
for
an
officer
to
respond
to
a
call?
G
It
was
five
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
we
hired
one
today
it
takes
about
10
months
generally
speaking
before
they're
out
and
about
on
their
own
able
to
answer
calls
for
service
and
I
want
well
after
they
finish
the
academy
which
starts
in
January,
which
is
going
to
take
about
four
months
and
then
they'd
go
into
their
fto
process,
which
is
another
12
weeks
they'll
during
the
fto
process,
they're
an
element
of
Patrol,
but
they
aren't
handling
calls
by
themselves.
So
they're
attached
to
another
officer,
so
I'm
giving
more
information.
G
You
probably
asked
for
it,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
explaining
the
numbers
a
little
bit
more,
and
so
when
I
say
great,
we
brought
in
20
21
new
people.
It's
not
21
new
people
out
in
the
street
right
now,
so
it
does
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
G
For
these
folks
to
get
spun
up,
trained
and
out
in
the
street
and
handling
halls
for
service
for
us,
but
that's
again,
going
back
bouncing
around
the
14
lateral
officers
generally
speaking
again
it
we
put
them
through
about
a
month-long
fto,
because
they're
already
certified
officers
they've
already
gone
through
an
fto
process
at
whatever
agency.
G
They
came
from
it's
now,
just
a
matter
of
getting
them
acclimated
to
our
agency
and
our
expectations
and
how
we
do
things
differently
from
where
they
probably
came
from,
but
it
day-to-day
moment
to
moment
you're
going
to
get
a
different
response
to
any
type
of
call
for
service.
G
What
I
would
say
and
I
would
encourage
folks
if
you
call
for
something
it's
taking
longer
than
you
would
like,
or
you
would
had
expected,
you
can
call
dispatch
and
you
can
ask
for
the
on
duty
Commander
or
you
can
ask
for
the
on
duty
supervisor
to
give
you
a
call,
and
you
can
ask
them
what
what's
going
on,
what
what's
the
issue
and
sometimes
a
dispatcher
will
tell
you
I'm
sorry,
we
have
a
critical
incident.
This
is
going
to
take
a
little
while
Can.
G
The
officers
call
you
later
or
do
you
want
to
try
to
make
this
report
again
tomorrow,
but
there
are
a
number
of
things
at
any
given
time
that
are
going
to
affect
a
response
from
Patrol
on
a
call
for
service.
K
Okay,
thank
you,
Chief,
joy
and
and
then
having
that
explanation
that,
even
though
we've
got
these
recent
hires,
it's
going
to
take
time
for
them
to
hit
the
ground.
So
to
speak.
That's
good
information
to
know,
because
I
think
some
folks
might
be
under
the
assumption
that
we've
got
these
officers
starting
tomorrow
and
you're
going
to
see
them
on
the
beat
tomorrow,
which
is
not
the
case.
So
thank
you
for
providing
that
clarification.
K
I
know
that
it
I
can't
remember
when,
but
recently
you
there
was
a
consultant
that
gave
us
the
update
regarding
the
needs
of
the
force
and
what
Staffing
level
should
look
like
it'd
be
good
to
know,
given
where
those
recommendations
were
then
and
where
we
are
now
maybe
get
an
update
on
that.
I
think
that
that
would
help
the
community
understand
the
growth
and
of
the
force,
how
we're
achieving
maybe
some
of
the
Milestones
of
those
recommendations
and
where
gaps
still
May
lie.
That
way.
K
We
can
know
not
only
as
a
governing
body
but
as
a
community
that
we're
working
towards
achieving
and
providing
the
best
Force
possible
for
Santa,
Fe
and
so
I
think.
If
that
might
be
just
a
recommendation,
not
necessarily
a
question,
if
we
can
maybe
in
the
next
month
or
two
whenever
you've
got
time,
Chief
Joy
might
maybe
be
able
to
get
an
update
on
that.
K
But
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
the
the
pinpointed
Focus
you
you've
brought
and
the
attention
you
brought
towards
recruitment
and
retention,
which
have
led
to
the
successful,
hiring
and
lateral
hiring
of
officers.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
Please
thank
the
rest
of
the
force
for
their
service.
It's
one
of
those.
It's
a
culture
and
it
it
is
contagious,
so
obviously
you're
doing
something
good
there.
So
I
just
encourage
you
to
keep
up
the
good
work
and
don't
hesitate
to.
K
Let
us
know
how
we
can
continue
to
be
a
support.
You
mentioned
the
15K
that
that
was
helpful.
If
that's
helpful,
we
need
to
make
sure
that's
in
next
year's
budget
again
that
way,
we
could
approve
it
for
you
that
way,
it's
a
tool
for
you,
so
thank
you.
Chief
Joy
I
appreciate
the
report.
That's
all
I
got
mad
I'm
sure.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
Chief
joy,
for
your
presentation
and
for
joining
us
and
good
to
see
you
and
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
leadership
and
the
commitment
you
have
made
to
the
city
and
to
the
police
department.
I
just
had
a
couple
questions:
kind
of
follow-up
to
counselor
Garcia.
F
You
know
in
the
past
and
just
historically
we
we
have
always
had
vacancies
in
the
department
and
it's
great
to
see
that
we're
closing
that
Gap
with
laterals
and
new
hires
and
so
I
guess.
I
was
just
considering
or
thinking
about
how
things
have
been
since
covid
and
I
guess.
I
was
just
curious.
How,
if
you
all,
were
seeing
or
have
been,
have
been
seeing
an
increase
in
calls
for
service
since
covid
and
if
so,
how
has
that
affected
your
response
times?.
G
Yeah
Madam
chair
Council,
woman,
VIA
Rail,
yes,
so
as
a
one-to-one
2020,
it's
an
it
was
an
anomaly
year
and
it's
for
a
number
of
reasons
right,
but
whenever
we
talk
about
data
and
numbers
and
kind
of
History
over
the
years.
As
far
as
when
we're
talking
about
crime
data,
it's
I.
Obviously
you
can't
ignore
2020,
but
it's
also.
G
You
can't
use
it
as
a
reference
point
and
so
yeah
our
calls
for
service
across
the
board
really
from
compared
from
2021
2022,
even
2019
to
2020
it
was.
It
was
we've.
Definitely
it's
definitely
an
increase
from
post
covet
as
far
as
its
effect
on
response
times,
yeah.
I
G
Can
not
to
not
to
repeat
myself,
I
guess
too
much,
but
well
so
yeah.
The
higher
calls
for
service
the
more
cultural
service
it's
going
to
affect
response
times,
just
by
the
nature
of
the
fact
that
we
have
more
calls
that
officers
are
on
at
any
given
time
and
but
also
yeah.
If
I
and
I
can't
pull
up
my
screen
now
because
I'm
not
at
work
but
I
could
tell
you
what
the
screen
looks
like
right
now
and
and
give
you
an
estimate
of
like
well.
G
There
I've
got
three
officers
on
this
crash.
Here,
it's
going
to
be
a
little
while
if
you're
reporting
a
you
know,
you
came
home
and
your
house
had
been
broken
into
yesterday.
Again,
I
can
send
a
PSA
out
or
it's
going
to
be
a
little
while
until
these
officers
free
up.
F
Yeah
you
did,
you
did,
I
was
just
thinking
about
it,
just
the
the
different
types
of
calls
Yorks
are
experiencing
now,
if
they're
different
than
from
like
when
you
first
started
on
the
and
the
police
force
and
yeah
I
guess,
I
would
love
to
see
the
data
like
what
that
looks
like
for
you
all
I
know
you
don't
have
it
now,
but
like.
H
F
Those
calls
for
service
how
they've
shifted
with
covid
and
I
still
feel
like
we're
in
coveted
mode,
so
we're
not
really
maybe
just
post
pandemic
but
like
what
that
looks
like
for
you
and
how
that
also
informs
us
about
the
kind
of
services
community
services
that
we
need
to
provide
in
order
to
respond
in
a
proactive
way
to
those
calls
for
service.
It's
just
putting
that
out.
F
There
is,
and
maybe
I
don't
know
if
director
Ochoa
is
seeing
like
a
correlation
like
the
things
you
all
are
seeing
is
the
trends
of
calls
for
service
and
what
has
shifted
and
then
how
we're
responding
with
like
potential
Services.
G
Yeah
and
another
thing
that
I
always
like
to
mention
too,
that
that
has
been
very
helpful
for
us
is
aru
that
I'm
I'm,
a
big
fan
of
the
program
and
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
and
and
the
assistance
that
they've
given
us
on
patrol
it's
it's
nice
when
I'm
monitoring,
the
radio
and
I'm
listening
and
I
have
my
patrol
officers
calling
out
for
assistance.
If
air
you
can
help
them
out
on
a
particular
call.
G
L
You
know
on
a
well
check
May,
hopefully
prevent
a
PD
response
later
so
a
little
bit
hard
to
measure
quantitatively.
At
this
point,
although
we
will
be
evaluating
this
going
forward
to
make
recommendations
about
investing,
you
know
in
different
kinds
of
responses:
different
kinds
of
community
services
in
general.
L
L
So
you
know
Council
casets
heard
me
talk
about
prevention
and
she's,
a
fan
of
prevention.
You
all
understand
that
you
know
we're
in
a
long
game.
Here
too.
I
L
For
investing
in
programs
and
services,
teen
center
for
our
youth,
I,
always
say
I
hope
the
officers
will
all
be
a
lot
less
busy
in
10
years,
because
we'll
have
we'll
have
intervened
with
youth
where,
where
that's
going,
to
make
a
lot
of
difference.
L
So
it's
a
big
it's
a
rambling
answer,
but
I'll
while
I
have
the
mic
I
just
also,
if
I
may
want
to
give
an
very
sincere
thanks
to
Bernadette
Salazar
and
her
team
at
HR
to
bring
in
21
officers
in
six
months
as
no
small
feed
that
are
especially
Aaron
Aragon
and
the
whole
team
really
put
in
some
late
hours
and
move
things
really
quickly
with
a
deep
understanding
of
the
priority.
L
So
it
really
sincere
thanks
to
Bernadette
who's
here
in
the
audience
Chief
Joy,
so
just
wanted
to
give
that
shout
out
to
her
team.
Thank
you
and
I'll.
Just
I'm!
Sorry,
don't
ever
give
me
the
mic.
Really!
Thank
you
to
the
counselors,
sincere
thanks
for
understanding
that
investing
in
salaries
investing
in
equipment.
You
know
the
officers.
L
Cars
are
their
offices,
the
quality
of
those
Vehicles,
the
body
cameras
that
protect
them
by
you
know,
keeping
them
accountable,
having
them
have
backup
all
the
radios
work
and
everything
that
you
support,
the
all
the
ideas.
You
know
we
it's
not
an
either
or
when
it
comes
to
investing
in
community
services
or
Public
Safety.
It's
it's
an
all
all
on
board,
all
Hands-On
deck.
So
we
appreciate
your
support
so
much.
F
Thank
you,
director,
Ochoa
I,
think
one
one
piece
that
I
was
thinking
that
makes
the
correlation
about
calls
versus
like
what
we're
trying
to
do
proactively
or
or
trying
to
look
at
housing
interventions,
and
you
know
safe
Living
Spaces
is
a
piece
of
it
and
so
I
I
guess
just
from
my
own
anecdotal
expect
experience
with
constituents.
It
is
around
homelessness
and
not
about
the
people
itself,
but
not
being
safely.
F
L
I
think
I
asked
Chief
joy
to
ask
his
team
what
percent
of
calls
they
estimate
worse
than
on
responding
to
unsheltered
people
and
their
estimate
was
30
to
40
percent
of
their
calls.
Can
you
imagine
what
kind
of
call
times
for
service
we'd
have,
if
that,
if
they
weren't
busy
handling
those
kinds
of
calls.
F
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
the
other
question
they
had
for
chief
Joy
was
around
the
transitions
that
are
happening
at
recc
or
or
dispatch,
and
how
that's
affected
your
staff.
G
F
Staffing
their
leadership,
maybe
some
other,
like
uncertainties
about
the
contracts.
You
know
it's
just
been
a
little
bit
as
we
say
in
transition,
so
I
was
just
curious.
How
that
affects
you
all,
because
that
goes
hand
in
hand.
You
know
you
rely
heavily,
obviously
on
dispatch
to
be
able
to
get
to
where
you
need
to
go.
G
Right,
yeah,
no
they're,
they
are
the
first
line
for
our
first
response,
and
so
it
is
important
to
us
that
that
they
are
staffed
appropriately
as
well
and
I
know.
They've
had
their
own
battles
and
issues
they're
a
new
director
director,
Lujan
he's
been.
He
started
there,
I've
known
him
when
I
was
a
patrol
officer
and
he
was
a
new
dispatcher.
I
have
a
lot
of
respect
for
him.
G
I
think
he's
the
right
guy
to
be
over
there
in
that
position
and
I've
from
his
discussions
and
presentations
to
the
Public
Safety
Committee.
It
sounds
like
they're.
You
know
slowly
making
progress
as
well
and
going
in
the
right
direction
so,
but
but
again
to
kind
of
Bounce
Around.
G
The
point
is:
is
yes:
if
if
dispatch
is
having,
if
it's
one
dispatcher
who's
having
to
monitor
a
couple
of
different
radios
or
they're,
the
call
taker
but
they're,
also
handling
the
the
the
dispatch
side,
just
send
the
calls
out
to
the
officers,
all
those
are
going
to
affect
our
ability
to
respond
to
calls
as
well
and
our
response
times.
So
it's
it's
crucial
for
us
that
they
are
also
adequately
staffed
and
supported.
F
Absolutely
yeah
I
see
it
as
a
symbiotic
relationship
that
it's
really
important.
We
make
sure,
obviously
that's
a
County
City
partnership
and
it's
important
to
get
that
fully
staffed
as
well.
Although
we
don't
have
control
over
that
at
the
city
level,
for
our
budgets.
But
let's
see
the
other
question
I
had
was
around
so
the
fifteen
thousand
dollar
signing
bonus,
which
the
governing
body
approved
not
just
the
mayor,
but
because
in
your
presentation
you
said
me
or
whatever
I'm
like
well.
All
of
us
supported
that
so
I.
G
So
they
get
I'm
sorry,
so
they'll
get
the
first
half
when
they
get
their.
They
get
hired
on
they'll
get
the
first
half
they
get.
The
other
half
after
they
finish
probation
so
about
a
year
is
when
they
would
get
there.
The
the
other
half
the
fifteen
thousand.
F
F
G
It
was
May
of
2020
when
the
incentives
first
started
being
offered
for
the
15
000.
and
since
May
of
2020
we've
onboarded
28,
experienced
laterals
and
in
that
time
I
believe.
We've
only
had
four
that
have
received
the
incentive
and
have
gone
to
another
agency.
G
F
Know,
thank
you
and
then
I
guess
follow
up
to
that
related
to
budget.
If
you
or
maybe
director
Ochoa
can
tell
us
any
anything
that
you
that
we
can
expect
for
2023-2024
Budget
related
to
the
police
department.
L
Madam,
chair,
councilwoman
direl,
we're
still
you
know.
We've
submitted
some
initial
proposals,
we're
working
with
the
finance
team.
You
know
with
within
parameters
that
we've
been
given
I
think
our
next
investment,
in
addition
to
continuing
to
support
the
officers
looking
at
PSAs,
is
really
on
the
admin
side,
because
just
as
I
mentioned
HR,
you
can't
really
do
anything
without
the
back
end
team.
You
can't
you
can
do
a
lot,
but
you
can't
do
everything
as
well
as
you
can
and
want
to
so.
L
Some
of
the
Investments
we're
looking
at
are
in
just
the
administrative
teams
that
have
been
you
know,
kind
of
a
little
Bare
Bones
and
so
we're
looking
within
the
budget
to
how
to
how
do
we
make
some
changes
that'll
make
some
efficiencies
and
support
those
folks
who
support
the
officers
and
those
are
the
initial
you
know,
conversations
we're
having
with
finance
and
we're
not
sure
how
that'll
all
play
out
when
it
by
the
time
it
comes
to
you
all
right,
okay,.
F
Good
to
know,
yeah
we've
just
been
hearing
it's
going
to
be
a
flat
budget,
so
I'm
just
curious
how
that
will
play
out
and
what
kind
of
requests
will
be
made
that
are
similar
to
this
last
budget
moving
forward.
So
thank
you
and
then
just
make
two
comments
or
just
request.
Send
some
director
salazarus
here.
If
we
could
get
a
presentation,
because
I'd
rather
not
I
want
to
pass
it
over
to
my
colleague
and
we
have
another
presentation.
F
But
if
we
can
get
an
update
on
the
down
payment
assistance
for
emergency
responders
and
find
out
where
we're
at
with
that,
since
it's
important-
and
we
want
to
see
that
moving
forward
quickly,
and
so
if
we
could
get
a
either
presentation,
I
don't
know
if
it
makes
sense
here,
but
at
least
information
so
that
we
know
what's
happening
with
that
and
then
also
I
would
I.
Think
I've
mentioned
this
before,
but
having
a
presentation
for
quality
of
life
on
how
our
partnership
is
going
with.
F
B
B
I
also
just
want
to
extend
my
gratitude
to
both
Chief
joy
and
director
Ochoa
for
the
creative
work
that
you've
done
with
recruitment
and
really
looking
at
some
of
the
variety
of
things
that
can
make
our
department
more
attractive
for
an
officer
to
move
over
to
or
when
they're
joining
the
force
come
to
Santa
Fe
or
stay
with
Santa
Fe
I.
B
Think
that
some
of
that
you
know
talking
about
facial
hair,
you
know
which,
which
seems
you
know
like
it,
wouldn't
be
that
big
of
a
deal,
but
obviously
the
fact
that
there
was
some
national
police
news
around.
This
really
shows
that
that
talking
to
the
officers
on
the
ground
and
really
understanding
what
those
needs
are
and
I
think
just
just
your
willingness
to
really
listen
goes
a
long
ways
as
councilor
Garcia
said.
B
Would
you
say
culture
is
contagious.
I,
like
that
and
and
I
really
do
think
that
the
change
in
culture
has
been
noticeable
both
for
my
own
interactions
with
with
police
officers.
B
What
I've
been
hearing
from
constituents
and
I
I
cannot
express
my
gratitude
enough
to
the
leadership
team
to
your
leadership,
Chief
joy
as
well
as
yours,
director,
Ochoa
and
the
way
again,
you
know
kind
of
hearkening
back
to
councilman
video's
conversation,
the
knitting
together
of
the
different
departments
in
community
health
and
safety,
and
really
looking
at
what
that
overall,
really
means
for
our
community
to
have
a
community
that's
healthy,
to
have
a
community,
that's
safe
and
being
willing
to
push
the
envelope.
So
so
I
truly
appreciate
that
I
do
have
one
question.
B
What
one
thing
that
I
really
appreciate
about
your
presentation
and
found
really
useful,
was
was
kind
of
this
discussion
of
the
domino
effect.
So
if
we
really
fill
up
Patrol,
that
means
we're
not
pulling
from
traffic
we're
not
pulling
from
the
bike.
Team
and
understanding
you
know.
Of
course,
traffic
is
one
of
those
things
that
we
hear
about
from
our
constituents,
the
most
so
so
understanding
how
all
of
this
really
knits
together.
B
There
is
a
strategy
here,
and
so,
if
you
could
provide
that
information
both
for
us,
as
well
as
the
public
I,
think
that
would
be
really
useful.
G
G
We
get
from
dispatch
and
work
or
dispatch
about
party
one
two
three
of
the
the
calls
and
where
they
fall,
but
as
an
example,
if
it's
a
violent
crime
in
progress,
you're
going
to
get
a
bigger
response,
if
it's
just
like
an
alarm
call
so
an
alarm
at
a
house,
your
that's
a
standard,
two
officer
minimum
response
and
again
that's
just
because
of
the
potential
for
danger
right.
G
If
there's
a
suspect
in
the
house,
and-
and
we
have
to
encounter
that
individual,
but
anything
in
progress
where
there's
a
there
is
violence
or
there's
a
potential
for
violence.
You're
going
to
I
would
expect
you're
going
to
get
more
than
one
officer
responding
if
it's
a
large
crash
or
or
kind
of
a
complicated
crash
for
whatever
reason
they
hit
a
poll
or
like
a
power
line
or
something
along
those
lines
and
they
need
traffic
direction
or
they
need
to
take
measurements
of
the
vehicle.
G
Well,
one
officer
is
going
to
take
measurements
of
the
vehicle,
while
the
other
officers
may
be
interviewing
drivers
and
that's
to
expedite
the
amount
of
time
that
scene
is
blocked
off
and
the
road
is
blocked
off
and
it's
affecting
traffic.
So
those
are
just
kind
of
some
quick
examples
as
to
why
I
would
you
would
typically
see
more
than
one
officer
for
any
type
of
call.
B
Thank
you,
Chief
and
I
think
that
the
important
piece
there
is
that
you
know
for,
for
sometimes
there
are,
as
you
mentioned,
you
know,
kind
of
minimizing
the
public
impact
for
some
of
these
situations
with
crashes
or
really
looking
at
officer
safety
or
making
sure
that
any
members
of
the
public
that
are
involved
are
remaining
safe
and
I.
Think
that
it's
important
that
the
public
understands
that
this
isn't
just
a
oh
look.
B
There's
action
over
here
and
so
all
the
officers
want
to
go
see
the
action
that
it
that
there
are
there
is
a
rhyme
and
a
reason
for
the
number
of
officers
that
show
up
at
any
given
scene.
So
if
there
is
additional
information
that
you
have
about,
that,
I
think
that
that
would
be
useful
for
us.
I
know
that
when
I'm
speaking
with
my
constituents,
if
I
can
just
be
more
educated
as
to
as
to
what
that
looks,
like
I
would
appreciate
that
as
well.
B
So
we
are
oh
we're
already
at
six
o'clock,
so
we
will
keep
moving
along
but
again
Chief.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
giving
us
a
presentation
from
your
hotel
room,
great
job.
Your.
G
Flexibility,
thank
you,
everyone
and
again
thank
you
to
the
council
members
for
all
the
support
and
I
hope
you've
you've
given
to
us.
So
it
really
does
it's.
It's
recognized
and
it's
noted
noticed
by
by
our
our
officers
and
myself.
So
thank
you.
Wonderful.
B
Thank
you
and
again,
please
give
all
your
thanks
to
your
team
they're
incredible
and
we
really
appreciate
them.
Thank
you.
Moving
along,
let's
go
to
our
next
presentation.
This
is
a
presentation
of
the
language
accessibility
study
conducted
by
pivot
access.
We
have
a
city
clerk
and
director
of
community
engagement,
Christine
Bustos
mihelsek
here
to
present,
as
well
as
the
Director
of
Youth
and
Family
Services
Julie
Sanchez,
Madam,
chair
and
Alexandra.
K
B
A
A
B
Yeah,
let's
do
the
presentation
and
while
the
presentation
is
happening,
I
will
shoot
a
little
email
as
to
procedurally
how
we
do
this
and.
M
Yeah
I,
you
would
just
vote
again
on
the
agenda
and
then
remove
the
item
and
then
vote
on
it
separately.
M
B
Well,
wonderful,
okay!
Let's
can
I
have
a
motion
to
reconsider
the
consent
agenda
so.
F
E
B
E
B
Kessler,
yes,
question
pass
wonderful,
thank
you
and
now
moving
on
to
our
presentation
on
language,
accessibility
and
Madam
clerk.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
being
here
and
for
assisting
us
with
our
procedural
floor
is
yours.
M
Glad
I
could
help
I
actually
would
like
to
introduce
Kurt
and
Denise
from
pivot
evaluation.
They
will
actually
be
doing
the
presentation
on
their
findings
and
then
we
will
be
available
for
additional
questions
and
just
to
kind
of
give
a
quick
introduction.
I
believe
we
go
over
this
a
bit
in
the
presentation,
but
this
was
brought
up
to
by
various
council
members.
M
This
was
also
identified
via
a
resolution
in
the
immigration
committee
and
has
been
just
in
general,
an
item
that
we've
had
a
desire
to
explore
and
actually
look
into
an
official
language
access
plan.
We
were
provided
funding
through
the
last
fiscal
year
to
have
this
evaluation
done,
and
so
this
is
this
is
our
results
of
it
and
I'm
really
excited
for
Denise
and
Kirk
to
present
and
then,
as
I
mentioned,
Julie
and
I
are
both
available.
M
So
with
that
Denise
I,
assume
you'll
probably
be
doing
screen
share.
So
I'll
kick
it
over
to
you.
Thank.
N
A
N
N
All
right,
thank
you,
okay,
so
my
name
is
Denise
Garcia
and
I'm.
Here
with
my
colleague,
Dr
Kurt
Barnes
we're
with
pivot
evaluation.
We
do
evaluation
Services
throughout
the
state
of
New
Mexico,
and
we
are
here
to
present
on
the
city
of
Santa,
fe's
language,
access,
Services,
evaluation,
really
quick,
just
kind
of
a
summary
of
why
we're
here
and
how
we
got
here.
N
N
For
example,
Santa
Fe
became
a
sanctuary
City.
We
had
the
creation
of
the
permanent
immigrant
committee,
the
resolution
that
passed
in
2017
and
throughout
this,
the
staff
and
officials
have
been
recognizing
and
have
been
trying
to
identify
the
collective
needs
for
translation
and
interpretation.
Of
course,
this
has
been
with
the
help
of
community
groups
and
just
in
general.
This
is.
This
has
always
included
City
of
Santa
Fe
staff,
the
governing
body
and
Community
groups.
N
So
the
question
here
is:
how
will
Santa
Fe
develop
a
language
access
plan?
The
first
thing
here
is
to
know
what
the
language
access
plan
is.
It
is
a
consistent
set
of
processes
for
serving
all
citizens
and
residents.
It
also
happens
to
be
a
requirement
of
of
title
VI,
the
Civil
Rights
Act
of
1964,
which
indicates
that
any
entity
receiving
Federal
funding
cannot
discriminate
against
a
person
based
on
race,
color
or
national
origin.
N
Just
really
briefly,
we're
going
to
go
over
some
terms
that
I
think
are
important
to
understand
when
we're
talking
about
this
topic.
First,
we
have
primary
language,
it
means
it's
the
individual's
native
tongue
and
it's
the
language
that
a
person
feels
more
comfortable.
Speaking
with
the
second
one
is
limited,
English
proficiency,
and
this
one
designates
individuals
whose
primary
language
is
not
English
and
who
have
a
limited
ability
to
read,
write,
speak
or
understand.
N
English
LEP
individuals
may
be
competent
in
certain
types
of
communication,
for
example,
speaking
or
or
maybe
understanding
English,
but
not
reading
or
writing.
Similarly,
lap
designations
are
context
specific,
an
individual
May
process,
sufficient
English
language
skills
to
function
in
one
setting,
but
these
skills
may
not
be
sufficient
in
other
settings.
N
N
Next,
we
have
interpretation
and
translation
interpretation
is
the
act
of
listening
to
a
communication
in
one
language,
which
is
a
source
language
and
orally,
converting
it
to
another
language
known
as
a
target
language,
while
retaining
the
same
meaning.
Translation
is
the
same
process,
but
in
written
form.
N
Next
is
language
access
plan.
We
just
went
over
it
really
briefly,
but
more
specifically,
there's
a
plan
for
providing
oral
and
written
language
assistance
services
to
alternate
language
speakers,
so
that
they
can
communicate
effectively
with
staff,
therefore
receiving
meaningful
access
to
and
an
equal
opportunity
to
participate
fully
in
Services
activities
and
other
programs
administered
by
the
various
Departments
of
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
and
the
last
is
language
assistance
services,
and
these
are
services
that
the
city
can
provide
to
for
language.
N
So
our
evaluation
has
several
components.
First
thing
is:
we
went.
We
did
a
literature
research
to
see
what
was
what's
going
on
in
other
cities
in
terms
of
their
implementation
of
language
access
plans.
We
also
conducted
interviews
and
surveys
for
with
both
Community
organizations
and
Santa
Fe
Department
staff.
We
also
had
another
activity.
We
had
a
Community
member
contact,
the
various
departments
by
phone
we
couldn't
do
in
person
because
of
covid,
but
using
an
alternate
language
to
get
an
additional
data
sources
to
what
the
language
accesses
with
the
various
departments.
N
N
N
The
implications
here
are
that
to
the
creation
of
a
language
access
plan
for
the
City
of
Santa,
Fe
is
going
to
be
mostly
an
organizational
task
rather
than
a
developmental
one
Additionally.
The
city
should
create
a
data
collection
system
to
track
language
access
requests,
and
by
this
we
mean
departmental
staff,
would
would
be
able
to
say
what
department
they're
with
what
language
has
been
requested
and
whether
it's
been
interpretation
and
translation
so
that
we
can
have
a
continuous
tabs
on
the
requests.
N
N
N
Almost
one-third
of
the
respondents
said
that
they
successfully
communicate
with
groups
other
than
English
speakers
and
almost
half
of
the
Departments
that
have
responded
to
the
survey
interact
with
the
public
on
a
daily
basis.
So
it's
a
wide
variety
of
interactions
and
types
of
interactions
and
ability
to
respond.
N
So
when
we're
talking
about
interaction
and
engagement,
there's
four
different
categories:
the
first
one
is
the
public
perspective
and
that's
when,
when
someone
someone
a
member
of
the
public
attempts
to
reach
a
department,
whether
it
be
a
phone
visiting
the
offices
or
attending
an
event,
the
next
two
have
to
do
are
have
to
do
with
the
departmental
perspective.
We
have
the
first
one
is
General
Communications,
Flyers
posters,
TV,
radio
announcements,
how
how
exact
communication
happening.
N
The
second
one
is:
how
is
the
emergency
communication
when
something
needs
to
get
out
quickly
and
efficiently?
N
The
fourth
one
is
slightly
different,
but
equally
as
important,
and
that
is
the
participation
of
different
Community
groups
in
the
decision-making
process,
with
the
various
departments
with
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe.
N
N
First
of
all,
we
looked
at
all
cities
in
the
southwest
The
Only
Exception
here
is
Chapel
Hill.
We
looked
at
this
one
because
it
was
close
or
similar
in
size
to
Santa
Fe.
As
you
can
see
here
in
the
southwest
different
cities
of
various
sizes
use
different
plants.
Some
of
them
use
a
language
access
plan
which
we
have
described
already.
Some
of
them
use
a
regional
access
plan,
which
is
a
transportation
plan.
N
N
We,
sir,
we
did
a
survey
with
the
Departments
in
speaking
with
the
Departments.
We
found
that
many
of
them
have
organically
developed
language
provision
methods
as
they
are
needed
and
some
examples
are.
Some
departments
have
hired
bilingual
staff.
Some
departments
don't
have
their
own
bilingual
staff,
but
they
have
access
to
a
bilingual
staff
member
in
another
department,
some
of
them
work
directly
with
Community
organizations,
so
there's
various
methods
that
they
employ.
N
N
The
one
thing
that
was
not
translated
is
images
and
PDFs
embedded
in
the
websites
were
not
translated.
We
did
just
as
an
update.
We
did
find
that
the
city
was
able
to
already
respond
to
this
particular
finding,
and
it's
already
working
on
the
translation
of
such
documents.
N
In
terms
we
also
spoke
with
Community
organizations,
we
in
general
we
found
that
some
of
them
have
been
already
advocating
for
language
access
plans.
We
had
some
that
the
organizations
did
Express
concern
over
language
access
for
the
populations
that
they
work
with.
Some
of
them
did
Express
frustration
over
the
city's
apparent
slow
response
to
attend
to
this
problem,
and
we
had
some
that
just
didn't
want
to
participate
Visa.
This
has
been
kind
of
an
ongoing
conversation.
N
So
what
has
been
done
in
terms
of
create
moving
towards
the
language
access
plan?
Part
of
our
study
was
to
provide
a
template
that
the
city
can
adopt,
rather
than
starting
over.
As
you
can
see,
a
lot
of
the
work
has
been
done.
The
city
departments
just
need
to
improve
the
coordination
here
on
the
column
on
the
right.
You
can
see
how
frequently
each
of
each
element
of
the
plan
should
be
implemented
and
how
much
of
that
already
exists.
N
N
There
there's
definitely
a
need
for
a
dedicated
Personnel
to
work
on
the
implementation
of
the
language
access
plan.
We
do
suggest
that
this
be
done
in
two
phases:
the
first
one.
While
there
are
many
more
tasks
than
the
ones
listed
here,
but
it
would
be
to
assemble
the
language
access
plan
to
start
all
the
planning
coordination
creation
of
policy,
as
well
as
creating
a
database
to
collect
ongoing
language
access
requests.
N
This
would
give
us
an
additional
I
mean
we
got
observed
language
access
needs,
but
it
is.
It
is
always
good
to
get
additional
data
to
really
learn
and
understand
what
it
is
and
make
it
what
is
needed
to
make
an
informed
decision
before
moving
forward.
This
would
also
help
with
reducing
costs.
Once
you
have
better
information
about
what
what
you
do
and
do
not
need
phase,
two
would
be
do
a
person
could
be.
N
The
same
person
would
be
involved
in
the
Contracting
of
the
services
for
translation
interpretation,
training,
the
city
staff
on
how
to
access
social
services
and
continue
with
the
data
connect,
collection
and
Analysis,
as
well
as
updating
the
language
access
plan
throughout
the
As
Time
Goes
By.
N
Some
of
the
priority
tasks
here
would
be
to,
of
course,
to
produce
the
document
coordinate
the
documentation
between
the
different
departments,
coordinate
the
training
and
the
Contracting,
create
the
policies
and
coordinate
the
updates
as
well
as
track.
The
information
for
the
departmental
needs.
N
So,
just
a
general
summary
of
our
findings.
Again,
we
found
that
the
various
Santa
Fe
departments
are
organically
developed,
essential
elements
of
the
language,
art
access
plan,
so
you're
already
on
the
path
cities
that
are
smaller
than
Santa
Fe
are
also
implementing
such
plans
again
for
Santa
Fe,
because
of
how
far
they've
they've
gone.
It
would
be
more
of
a
coordination
activity
rather
than
starting
from
zero
to
develop
a
full
program.
N
The
costs
would
be.
We
don't
know.
The
cost
is
how
how
much
funding
would
be
needed
until
after
the
first
year
for
Contracting.
This
is
not
for
the
coordination,
but
for
the
actual
Contracting
of
the
translation
interpretation
services.
N
Again,
we
believe
that
doing
is
in
phases
may
help
the
city
reduce
the
cost
over
time,
and
we
are
we
Kurt
and
I
work
with
a
lot
of
organizations
and
we
always
get
excited
when
we
know
what
people
read
and
use
our
evaluation
reports
to
move
forward
and
improve.
So
we
we
have
to
add
this
here,
because
we're
pretty
excited
that
they're
already
working
on
translation
on
the
translation
of
the
documents
that
are
on
their
website.
B
Wonderful,
thank
you.
So
much
Denise
really
really
appreciate
you
being
here
in
your
presentation
tonight
and
your
work
before
I
forget
because
I
did
forget
for
the
last
one
PowerPoint
for
the
last
one.
If
we
could
get
that
up
on
Prime
gov
and
if
we
could
also
get
the
PowerPoint
for
this
sent
to
the
committee
and
put
on
prime
gov
and
also
can
we
don't
have
a
copy
of
the
report.
B
So
if
we
could
also
have
a
copy
of
the
report
sent
to
the
committee
as
well
as
posted
onto
Prime
gov,
that
would
be
wonderful.
Thank
you.
So
much
questions
comments
from
the
committee.
F
Foreign,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I'm,
just
so
excited
that
this
finally
move
forward
and
I've
been
on
the
council
since
2016
and
I've
asked
about
this,
and
at
that
time
staff
would
say.
Oh,
we
can
just
use
Google
Translate,
which
is
painfully
wrong
in
so
many
ways.
F
F
You
had
said
that
every
Department
studied
had
the
majority
of
I.
Don't
remember
what
that
slide
said:
I
didn't
catch
that.
Can
you
remind
me
what
it
said.
N
F
It
so
that
includes
the
land
use
department
and
business
permits
staff.
That's
correct,
that's
good
to
know
yeah,
so
I
guess
I
guess.
My
question
is
to
staff
kind
of
like
where
we're
heading
next
and
in
order
to
implement
the
recommendations.
What
who
will
oversee
this
work
and
in
assembling
a
language
access
plan
and
then
keeping
it
updated,
updated
as
needed?
M
You
you
read
my
mind:
a
chair,
casting
councilwoman
Villarreal
I.
Do
I
do
want
to
expand
a
little
bit
on
what
Miss
Garcia
said
in
the
Department's
part
of
why
it
was.
You
know
essential
for
us
to
come
up
with
to
have
this
assessment
done.
Was
we
recognized?
M
Different
departments
have
different
things
that
are
translated
the
way
they
engage,
but
the
effort
by
each
department
to
be
able
to
interact
and
help
individuals
in
our
community
was
absolutely
there.
We
just
we
don't
quite
have
the
road
map,
so
I
will
know
that
my
office
I
one
the
plan
has
not
been
finalized.
So
one
of
the
reasons
I
think
Madam
chair,
you
asked
if
we
had
a
copy
of
it,
we
don't
have
a
final
copy
of
it.
M
Yet
part
of
our
agreement
and
our
contract
was
to
have
this
presentation
and
then
we
would
have
the
plan
finalized
and
provided
so
as
soon
as
we
have
the
final
draft
of
that
we
will.
M
We
will
absolutely
email
that
out
but
kind
of
I
guess
maybe
my
personality
I'm
not
sure
how
else
to
explain
it.
I
got
at
the
draft
version
of
the
plan
and
immediately
started
looking
through
it
and
saying
like
we
can
do
this.
We
can
do
this.
We
can
do
this,
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
incorporate
on
the
new
website
is
as
Miss
Garcia
mentioned.
The
language
translation
we're
using
is
a
bit
different.
We
also
went
a
little
bit
further
and
did
some
enhanced
ADA
compliance.
M
That
was,
in
addition
to
some
of
the
accessibility
ability,
things
that
we
mentioned,
but
the
bigger
piece
of
that
is.
We
recognized
because
of
this
assessment
that
PDFs
are
not
translated,
and
so
what
we've
done
is
we're
reaching
out
to
departments
not
well
I,
guess
twofold.
Let
me
take
one
step
back.
We
brought
on
a
we
brought
on
an
individual
via
contract
to
do
translation
for
the
City
of
Santa
Fe
in
two
parts,
one.
This
will
help
with
consistent
translations.
M
We
actually
have
a
person
who's,
translating
documents
for
the
city
we
have
communicated.
My
office
has
communicated
on
two
departments
this
resource
and
we've
had
so
many
departments
reach
back
out
to
get
applications
translated,
just
informational
documentation
for
them
to
be
translated,
and
then
the
second
part
of
that
is
we're
updating
the
PDFs
on
our
website
and
using
again
our
contractor
for
this
work
and,
of
course,
the
implementation
of
the
new
website
and
the
new
website
content
position
has
helped
us
do
this
as
well.
M
So
we're
having
meetings
with
each
department
right
now-
and
that
is
one
thing
that
we're
focusing
on,
is
any
documents
that
are
PDFs
that
are
not
translated,
we're
getting
those
translated
and
then
uploaded
as
well
on
the
website.
So
I
did
kind
of
want
to
give
a
little
bit
of
detail
about
that.
M
The
other
thing
that
we're
working
on
and
probably
of
note
is
we
worked
with
it.
We
actually
stopped
using
a
different
translation
service
that
we
had
been
using
for
online
meetings,
we're
now
utilizing
Zoom,
updated
their
translation,
subtitles
and
their
ability
to
translate
into
different
languages.
It's
much
more
accurate
than
the
other
service
we
were
using.
M
So
that
was
something
that
we
noted
through
this
study
and
needed
to
be
better
on
we're
working
on
that
and
then
I'm,
currently
working
on
building
out
the
data
collection
tool
that
was
mentioned
by
Miss
Garcia
in
this,
which
would
be
available
for
departments
to
be
able
to
log
and
I'm.
M
Currently,
looking
at
how
constituent
services
and
the
reorganization
that
I'm,
going
through
with
staff
on
that
kind
of
section
of
my
department,
would
be
able
to
incorporate
that
into
their
weekly
meetings
with
departments,
we
also
will
be
able
to
generate
a
QR
code.
M
So
if
someone
comes
in
the
staff
person
that
has
that
interaction
will
be
able
to
scan
a
QR
code
and
quickly
fill
out
the
survey
that
would
say
what
department
they
were
from,
what
if
it
was
interpretation
or
if
it
was
translation
and
then
will
be
able
to
assist
with
that
data
collection
as
well.
So
again,
it's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
the
car,
the
part
before
the
horse,
because
we
don't
actually
have
a
finalized
plan.
M
F
Great
thank
you
Christine.
For
that
information.
There
was
the
recommendation
about
a
dedicated
Personnel
for
the
language
access.
So
are
you
anticipating
any
changes
or
your
budget?
That
would
support
this
notion.
M
I
I
will
note
that
we
had
already
submitted
some
of
our
budget
requests,
but
I
did
speak
with
our
finance
director
and
noted
that
this
recommendation
has
come
through
and
so
I
would
be
submitting
an
amended
request,
potentially
for
additional
resources
to
be
considered
by
the
governing
body,
either
through
a
contract
or
through
an
FTE.
So
I
I
did
reach
out
to
the
finance
director
for
guidance
on
an
amended
request.
Thank.
F
You
great
to
hear
and
then
one
more
question
for
Miss
Garcia
when
you
were
doing
your
analysis
and
you
were
looking
at
different
departments.
Did
you
also
look
at
how
we're
communicating
to
the
public
as
it
relates
to
like
city-sponsored
events
or
meetings
or
co-sponsored
events,
if
we're
using
or.
C
N
The
some
of
the
fine,
some
of
the
findings
are
that
for
events
or
community
events,
the
Departments
tend
to
work
with
Community
organizations
and
the
funding
actually
tended
to
rely
on
the
Community
Partners,
whether
it's
organizations
or
one
of
the
major
ones
that
we
found
was
the
city.
The
public
library
had
a
I
think
it's,
the
friends
of
the
library,
was
the
one
who
was
per
providing
the
funding
to
make
the
interpretation
services
available.
N
O
Right
and
so
that
wasn't
the
only
finding
that
was
one
example
of
the
community
pitching
in,
but
the
the
city
also
contracted
their
own
translators.
Interpreters
I
mean
at
at
critical
times,
so
it
was
kind
of
it's
kind
of
shared
and
it
wasn't
predictable.
Who
would
be
doing
what,
and
so
you
know
if,
if
you're
really
wanting
to
follow
title
VI
of
the
law
and
it's
probably
really
the
city's
responsibility
and
and
when
you
think
about
it,
what
it
frees
up
is
those
resources
to
either
do
that.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
That
was
my
thinking
kind
of
to
not
put
the
well
it's
a
responsibility
for
all
of
us.
It
just
that
sometimes
non-profit
groups
and
partners
don't
have
the
budget,
so
I
think
yeah
I
think
I'm
just
curious
how
we
would
move
forward
with
that,
and
if
that
is
that
going
to
be
any
kind
of
recommendation
in
the
plan
or
in
your
assessment.
O
Well,
we
just
don't
talk
about
exactly
that
way
because
of
the
there's
the
the
four-factor
test,
and
then
the
process
is
that
you
develop
that's
where
it
all
gets
hashed
out,
and
so
each
department
really
has
different
needs
for
how
they
communicate,
and
so
we
don't
and
those
needs
are
likely
to
change.
Occasionally
too.
So
we
tried
to
give
General
guidance
that
people
could
use
the
departmental
staff
could
use
from
here
on
and
make
decisions
based
on
principles
rather
than
give
specific
recommendations,
but
essentially
it
looks
either.
O
O
It
may
be
that
there
is
actually
it's
probably
likely
there's
enough
work
that
you
can
just
hire
someone
internally
to
really
take
care
of
all
of
this
lots
of
once.
It's
all
in
motion.
Lots
of
cities
really
contracted
out
and
have
it
on
an
as
needed
basis.
But
you
know
we
all
know
Santa
Fe
does
things
a
little
differently
and
I
think
there's
a
great
deal
of
value
in
having
local
people
do
this
sort
of
work?
So
you
know
it's
it's.
Those
are
decisions
that
we
just
can't
make
for
you
right.
F
Thank
you
for
that.
Clarity
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
the
final
plan
and
thank
you
all
for
your
work
and
this
important
change
that
we
we've
been
needing
for
a
while.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
O
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
as
well.
It
was
really
a
fun
project
and
and
we're
happy
to
see
communities
doing
this
sort
of
work.
B
Well,
thank
you
we're
very
happy
to
have
you
doing
this
work
for
us
and
with
us
any
other
members
of
the
committee
questions
comments,
counselor
Chavez,.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
I,
just
wanted
to
make
a
quick
comment
in
regards
to
language
accessibility,
just
emphasizing
the
importance
that
the
resources
are
available
and
translated
without
the
community
members
needing
to
request
translation
or
interpretation.
It's
very
important
that
community
members
are
walking
into
language
accessibility.
That's
what
promotes
engagement
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
want
right.
As
City
officials.
E
We
want
our
community
members
to
be
very
involved,
but
what
really
discourages
community
members
if
they
know
that
it's
something
they
have
to
ask
for
or
something
that
they
have
to
look
for
so
I
I'm
very
excited
about
this
plan.
But,
while
you
know
as
a
city,
we
respond
I
want
us
to
keep
that
in
mind.
We
need
Spanish
resources
or
interpreted
resources.
Translated
resources
as
easy
to
access,
as
all
of
our
English.
Getting
to
that
place
is
when
we
would
have
equity.
E
In
my
opinion,
when
it
comes
to
community
engagement,
so
I
just
wanted
to
leave
that
com,
and,
if
you
know
you
have
anything
to
add,
I
would
be.
You
know
very
happy
to
hear
your
expertise
on
that,
but
in
my
experiment,
like
experience
with
Community
advocacy,
it
really
is
that
important
fact
that
it's
not
just
about
language
accessibility,
but
it's
making
language
accessibility
as
easy
as
the
dominant
language
within
the
community.
So
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
that.
Thank
you.
E
O
We
can't
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
nuance
to
what
you're
mentioning
there
and
one
is
the
equity
of
the
ease
of
access,
and
so
the
language
access
plan
is
designed
to
really
address
that
and
it
it
makes
it
so
that
you
know
when
you
walk
in
the
door.
There's
ways
for
you
to
get
information
right
away
with
Spanish
that
it
is
a
more
frequently
used
language,
and
so
it's
really
easy
to
address
that.
O
But
with
other
languages
you
know
they,
people
who
speak
other
languages
still
have
the
same
Equity
rights,
and
so
it's
a
little
more
difficult.
But
not
so
bad.
There's
a
thing
called
a
an
I
speak
card,
and
when
somebody
comes
in
you
can
kind
of
flash
these
and
they
can
say
this.
Is
it
and
you
can
usually
what
cities
do
or
agencies
do?
O
Is
they'll
there's
a
number
that
they
will
contract
with
and
say:
I
have
someone
who's
speaking
this
language
and
there
is
someone
on
the
phone
that
minute
to
talk
with
them,
and
so
you
can
actually
get
Services
right
away,
but
it
doesn't
look
that
great
right
in
terms
of
you
know
when
you
walk
in
the
door,
but
the
usually
you
know
part
of
the
language
access
plan
would
be
to
have
some
sort
of
an
icon,
so
somebody
can
point
to
it
and
go
you
know,
I'm
speaking
this
other
language
here
and
that
cues,
the
people
in
the
office
in
the
department
to
be
able
to
you
know,
pull
up
the
high
speed
card
and
then
talk
with
them.
O
It's
more
difficult.
When
there's
a
phone
call
when
there's
a
phone
call,
you
know
there's
a
whole
lot.
You
can't
be
flashing
the
ISP
card,
but
it
turns
out
because
we
interviewed
some
of
these
companies
that
do
this
sort
of
work
and
they're
like
yeah
most
people
they
can
get
a
little
bit
of
English,
which
right
so
you
can
ask
them.
You
know
what
language
are
you
speaking
and
they'll.
Get
that
and
they'll
tell
you
and
they'll
say.
If
you
say
what
is
your
phone
number,
you
can
usually
get
that
too
right.
O
So
the
two
key
pieces
of
information
to
keep
these
people
engaged
just
happened
right
so
and
you
know
what
is
your
name
so
you
know
once
you
get
that
far,
you
can
get
them
to
the
translation
services
and
now
everybody's
engaged.
So
there's
a
lot
of
levels
that
go
on
here,
but
you
know
the
initial
level
that
you
mentioned
about
Spanish.
O
Certainly
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
will
have
that
handled
in
the
traditional
fashion,
following
the
processes
laid
out
in
the
language
access
plan.
E
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
and
it's
it's
exciting
to
hear.
I
wanted
to
really
emphasize
my
appreciation
to
you
all
and
to
city
clerk
mahelsik
for
taking
this
on.
I
know
it's
a
lot
of
work,
but
there
is
the
results
that
come
from.
It
is
a
more
united
and
engaged
Community,
which
I
think
is
just
you
can't
put
a
price
on
that.
It's
so
so
important,
especially
having
Community
involved
in
Big
City
decisions
in
the
city
that
serves
them.
So
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work.
N
Thank
you,
councilman
Chavez,
and
it
really
does
a
lot
of
our
conversations
have
to
do
with
trust
and
if
you
make
everything
easily
accessible
make
it
welcoming
make.
It
know
that
people
are
people
who
speak
other
languages
are
expected
and
welcome,
welcome
into
space.
That
will
go
a
long
way
towards
increasing
that
trust
between
the
community
and
the
City.
B
Again,
I
do
want
to
really
thank
you
for
coming
forward
and
providing
this
information.
I
do
look
forward
to
seeing
the
more
comprehensive
plan
and
study,
and
so
we'll
probably
want
to
have
a
follow-up
presentation
when
we're
really
ready
to
discuss
that
road
map.
One
question
I
have
in
terms
of
language,
accessibility
and
and
I
apologize.
If
this
was
mentioned
and
I
missed,
it
I
didn't
think
I
heard
it,
but
reading
level
is
something
that
I
feel
we
don't
always
do
a
great
job
with.
B
So
you
know,
people
are
designing
these
Outreach
pieces
and
they're.
You
know
at
a
at
a
very
high
reading
level
and
I
know
coming
from
the
public
health
world.
We
frequently
try
to
stay
like
a
fourth
grade,
reading
level
to
a
sixth
grade
and
and
I'm
curious.
B
If
we
looked
at,
you
know
kind
of
our
city
documents
and
it
does
get
hard
because
some
of
the
things
we're
working
with
are
very
technical,
but
how
we
also
address
not
just
different
languages,
but
also
people's
levels
in
those
languages
and
making
sure
that
we
are
using
more
simple,
straightforward
language,
so
that
individuals
who
maybe
do
not
you
know
that
it's
more
easy
to
understand.
Simple
sentence
structure
is
simple,
more
simple
vocabulary
to
really
make
sure
it's
accessible
to
The,
Wider
population.
M
If
I
can
counsel
Council
chair
cassette
it
to
my
knowledge,
it
was
not
part
of
this
study
I'll.
Let
Denise
speak
to
that,
but
I
do
want
to
note
that
it's
something
we
are
aware
of
in
my
department,
and
it's
kind
of
you
know
we're
still
building
the
airplane
as
we're
flying
it
in
terms
of
centralization
for
everything,
including
kind
of
the
this.
M
This
study,
the
language
access
plan,
part
of
it,
was
that
you
know
I
by
default
and
by
my
divisions
here,
a
lot
of
pieces
of
these
components.
So
you
know
I'm,
hearing
feedback
from
Community
organizations
that
are,
you
know
sometimes
requesting
our
press
releases
be
translated
on
some
of
our
documents
that
we're
using
constituent
Services
calls
those
types
of
things,
and
so
one
element
of
that
is
through
the
communication
team
and
the
centralization
of
communication
through
my
office.
That
is
absolutely
something
we're
looking
at.
M
We
are
helping
departments
develop
their
Flyers,
develop
their
handouts,
of
course,
develop
their
releases
and
information
in
ways
that
are
really
user
friendly,
we're
being
very
cognitive
of
the
level
which
we're
speaking
and
the
words
that
we're
using
the
layout
of
that
and
I
think
we'll
continue
to
see
that,
especially
as
we
bring
on
even
a
graphic
artist
position
that
will
further
help
us
develop
informational
handouts
and
flyers.
M
So,
as
far
as
it
being
specific
to
this
study,
I'll
kick
that
over
to
Denise
or
Kurt,
but
in
general
I
can
absolutely
note
that
it's
something
we
are
working
on
every
single
day
from
the
communication
perspective
as
well,
and
also
just
to
note
a
bit
in
response
to
counselor
Chavez,
is
that
you
know
one
thing
at
least
I
was
hoping
for
with
this
plan
is
the
ability
to
create
consistency
across
the
city
and
in
ex
what
was
I
gonna,
say,
basically,
an
expectation
from
our
residents
that
you
know
every
Department
would
have
a
consistent
level
of
Engagement
that
they
would
be
able
to
have
in
their
language,
because,
right
now
it
does
vary
depending
on
the
department,
but
again
I.
M
Think
this
is
an
area
where
the
city
has
traditionally
been
Silo,
and
one
thing
that
at
least
my
department
in
general
has
worked
on.
Is
this
consistency,
this
consistency
of
messaging?
This
consistency
of
service?
M
One
thing
that
I've
been
working
on
in
conjunction
with
this
is
kind
of
a
customer
service
style
training
that
all
of
our
admins
would
go
to
so
that
there's
again
consistency
in
the
way
we're
engaging
with
our
residents,
regardless
of
what
department
they're
visiting-
and
this
is
a
piece
that
I
absolutely
would
like
to
be
part
of
that
customer
service
training
is
everything.
M
Kurt
mentioned,
the
I
speak
cards
having
a
phone
line
that
would
be
available
and
really
having
that
direction
for
other
department
that
they
could
transfer
a
call
to
constituent
services
and
the
constituent,
Services
team
would
have
these
resources
and
be
able
to
access
them
and
be
taking
some
of
this.
So
it's
hard
because
we
are
flying
the
airplane
while
we're
building
it.
M
But
I
think
these
are
some
of
the
bigger
building
blocks,
that
Community
engagement,
that
I've
been
working
on
to
kind
of
get
this
consistency,
get
this
data
and
start
to
move
forward
with
these
really
city-wide
goals
for
us,
so
that
we
have
that
anyways.
Sorry.
That
was
a
bit
of
a
rant,
but
I'm
actually
really
excited
about
this.
M
It
was
something
of
course,
that
I
put
in
the
budget
and
had
spoken
with
many
of
you
about,
but
also
just
hearing
from
the
community
and
and
really
being
able
to
engage
our
community
at
a
consistent
in
a
consistent
way
is,
is
really
essential
for
for
our
department
and
for
the
city.
B
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
Madam,
Clerk
and
really
thank
you
so
much
for
your
your
work
on
this
and
for
really
your
passion
that
that
is
very
palpable
tonight
and
I.
Do
really
look
forward
to
bringing
you
back
in,
however,
many
months
when
we
do
have
that
concrete
plan,
and
we
can
see
the
final
report
and
evaluation
that'll
be
really
interesting
for
us
to
all
dig
in
so
whether
it
comes
here
at
a
governing
body.
I
definitely
think
it'll
be
very
important
to
to
see
this
road
map.
B
So
thank
you
again
and
thanks
so
much
for
being
here
and
thank
you
Denise
and
Kurt
for
joining
us
tonight.
We
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
to
come,
see
us
at
quality
of
life.
B
Okay,
well,
let's
move
on
now
to
items
that
were
pulled
off
the
consent
agenda.
We
are
going
to
start
with
item
C
and
this
was
pulled
by
councilor
Lee
Garcia.
This
is
the
request
for
approval.
I
am
getting
there.
B
The
request
for
approval
of
American
Rescue
plan
act,
arpa
recovery
funds,
sub
recipient
sub-recipient
contract
with
the
New
Mexico
Coalition,
and
homelessness
in
the
total
amount
of
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
Consuelo's
Place
shelter
under
the
first
statute,
statutory
category
to
respond
to
the
covid-19
public
health
emergency
or
its
negative
economic
impacts.
We
have
Cody
Minnick
here
from
he's
our
housing
Grant
manager
with
affordable
housing.
J
So
it
looks
as
if
the
request
is
for
another
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
on
top
of
what
was
already
been
administered
of
two
two
million
six
hundred
thousand.
Is
that
correct.
H
J
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
was
a
little
unclear
on
that
and
I
appreciate
you
being
here
to
answer
what
is
in
what
is
the
the
need
of
of
this
for
the
600
000
and
what
what
would
it
be
used
for.
H
H
H
Yes,
it'll
pay
for
Staffing
the
payroll
repairs,
Maintenance
Cleaning;
everything
that
it
costs
to
run
the
place.
J
How
many
people
currently
now
are
at
in
Consuelos.
H
Luckily,
I
have
director
Ochoa
in
the
room,
but
I
believe
it's
about
60.
At
a
time.
L
Madam,
chair,
counselor
Garcia,
the
average
is
about
60
I,
believe
right
now
they
have
a
few
rooms
that
are
offline
and
they
only
have
about
55,
but
it
at
any.
Given
time
the
average
is
55
to
60
folks
and
they
stay
for
varying
lengths
of
time.
J
Thank
you.
What
is
our
kind
of
projection
as
to
how
long
we're
going
to
be
there,
especially
with
more
development
going
on,
especially
with
what's
happened
in
the
recent.
L
Scientifically,
could
you
please
take
that
one
Madam
chair,
councilor
Garcia?
Thank
you
for
the
question
we're
actively
working
with
Community
Partners
right
now,
who've
recognized
the
value
of
the
non-congregate
shelter
model
to
look
for
a
property
to
purchase
where
we
could
move
and
offer
non-congregate
shelter.
L
We
have
been
told
that
St
Michael's
Hall,
where
Consuelos
is,
is
not
slated
for
demolishment
or
immediate
development
on
Midtown,
so
we
have
a
little
bit
of
room,
but
we
recognize
the
importance
of
moving
forward
with
the
Midtown
development
and
we're
working
really
actively.
We
hope
to
be
able
to
bring
the
you
all
in
the
council
as
a
whole.
More
information
I
think
director
Ladd
will
have
a
presentation,
hopefully
in
the
in
the
beginning
of
the
new
calendar
year.
J
D
And
a
Madam
chair,
Council
Garcia,
it's
a
good
question.
The
arpa
funding
that
the
city
received
needs
to
be
deployed
by
the
end
of
2024,
but
you
have
to
spend
it
all
by
2026.
D
J
Thank
you
come
pretty
quickly,
so
I
I
haven't
I,
have
no
more
questions
than
this.
Anybody
else.
K
B
Of
course,
moving
on
to
item
F,
this
is
a
request
for
the
approval
of
the
FY
2023
of
of
an
FY
2023
Grant
contract
with
Corporation
for
National
and
community
service,
and
the
total
amount
of
89
058
for
the
Foster,
grandparent
and
retired
senior
companion,
volunteer
programs.
We
do
not
have
staff
here,
because
councilor
Garcia
pulled
this
simply
to
accuse
himself
so
Council
Garcia
floresource.
Thank.
B
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
and
we
will
either
pop
ahead
out
or
send
you
a
text
when
you
can
come
back
in
in
about
30
seconds
or
like
count
for
to
40,
and
we
should
be
good.
Unless
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
to
approve
second
Motion
in
a
second
can
I?
Please
have
a
roll
call.
C
B
Yes,
ocean
pests!
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
and
if
we
can
please
get
Council
counselor
Garcia
back
that'd
be
great.
B
This
is
a
request
for
approval
of
an
American
Rescue
plan
act,
Recovery,
Fund
sub-recipient
contract
and
the
total
amount
of
total
amount
of
797
600
for
jobs,
training
and
work
based
learning
under
the
the
2.10
assistance
to
unemployed
and
underemployed
workers,
statutory
category
to
respond
to
the
covid-19
public
health
emergency
or
its
negative
economic
impacts,
and
we
have
rich
brown,
our
community
and
economic
development
director
here
to
present
councilor
Chavez.
You
have
pulled
this
item.
E
I
have
pulled
this
item
for
two
reasons.
One
is
I.
Would
love
for
director
Brown
to
share
a
little
bit
about
this
work
and
second
is
because
I
will
not
be
participating
in
the
vote.
I
will
be
recusing
myself,
as
I
am
employed
by
Santa
Fe,
Public,
Schools,
wonderful,.
B
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
Travis
and
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
step
out-
and
we
will
pop
ahead
out
when
it
is
time
for
you
to
come
back
in,
thank
you
so
much
and
director
Brown.
If
you
could
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
this
program
and
the
work
that
is
happening,
that
would
be
much
appreciated.
Sure.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
council.
So,
as
you
know,
we
have
a
number
of
arpa
related
funding
at
the
city
to
sort
of
combat
the
effects
of
the
covet
pandemic,
and
one
of
the
things
that
was
part
of
the
treasury
guidelines
was
the
ability
to
provide
Workforce
and
job
training
for
underserved
under
employed
and
highly
vulnerable
index.
D
Folks,
that
includes
high
school
students
who
are
entering
the
job
Workforce,
and
so
we
are
now
partnering,
hopefully
in
collaboration
with
the
Santa
Fe,
Public,
Schools
and
Mr
Jose
Villarreal
is
here,
is
working
with
me
very
closely
and
I
want
to
thank
him
for
all
the
work
he's
done
with
me,
and
we
are
working
together
to
create
a
job
training,
youth,
Corp
and,
as
you
see
from
the
packet,
there
are
different
buckets
that
we're
looking
at,
and
this
is
one
macro
bucket
of
two
others
that
will
come
forward
to
you.
D
But
this
is
about
job
training,
entering
the
job
Workforce
for
young
people,
junior
senior
students
dropouts
and
also
looking
at
how
we
connect
businesses
who
may
need
work-based
learning
or
internships
to
this
young
cohort
that
could
be
out
there
and
currently
the
public
schools
have
been
doing
this
program
and
so
we're
just
getting
through
our
sausage
making
to
get
this
online
with
our
own
funding
as
we
move
forward,
and
so,
where
there'll
be
a
two-year
contract
that
will
put
forth
as
we
as
responded
to
council
Garcia
that
we
have
to
spend
the
money
by
2024.
D
So
we're
very
excited
about.
This
is
one
of
the
first
times
that
we've
actually
partnered
with
the
public
schools
on
something
we've
been
trying
to
address,
with
the
need
for
Junior
and
senior
students
to
have
job
opportunities,
and
we
look
at
it
in
many
ways.
We
look
at
it
as
it's
building
social
capital
for
our
students.
D
It's
also
building
job
training,
but
it's
also
addressing
the
growing
need
for
companies
who
may
require
extra
capacity
and
allowing
a
student
who
lives
in
a
different
world
than
a
lot
of
us
with
technology
Etc
to
come
into
a
small
company
and
help
us
grow
the
business
and
bottom
line.
It
helps
to
diversify
in
the
economy
by
having
folks
working
in
the
working
place.
So
so,
if
you
want
to
ask
Mr
Garcia
of
the
reality,
you
come
out
and
talk.
D
He
has
spent
as
much
time
as
I
had
on
this,
so
he
can
speak
to
some
of
the
buckets
and
some
of
the
partners
that
he'll
be
working
with
to
make
this
successful.
Wonderful.
B
Director
Brown,
you
read
my
mind:
Mr
betoreal,
if
you
thank
you
so
much
for
for
spending
your
time
with
with
us
this
evening,
and
if
you
have
any
additional
information
that
you
would
like
to
provide
or
if
you
are
willing
to
stand
for
questions.
I
will
also
open
it
up
to
the
committee,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
give
you
a
moment
to
begin.
P
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
council.
It's
been
a
just
happy
to
be
here
at
this
moment.
It's
been
a
long
process
to
get
here,
but
we're
really
excited
to
partner
with
the
city
coming
from
Santa
Fe,
Public
Schools,
and
as
Rich
mentioned,
we
our
program
already
exists:
It's
featured
research
based
it's
a
quality
program.
We
provide
juniors
seniors,
no
matter
if
they're,
high
academic,
achieving
or
simply
work
for
shreddy
the
opportunity
to
intern
with
a
high
value
business
partner.
So
it's
an
incredible
opportunity.
P
It
really
is
a
life-changing
opportunity
for
our
students,
and
especially
those
that
are
economically
disadvantaged.
P
They,
you
know
we're
competing
with
really
entry-level
jobs
such
as
Dion's
or
McDonald's,
nothing
wrong
with
those
jobs,
but
we're
competing
with
that.
So
we
need
to
be
competitive
with
paying
our
student
interns
because
they're
helping
provide
for
their
families,
for
example.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
again
to
partner
with
the
city
in
that
respect
to
it's
a
brilliant
idea,
honestly
to
invest
in
our
youth.
It's
comes
down
to
the
business
Basics.
If
you
invest
in
your
employees,
that's
the
best
way
to
invest
your
money
and.
P
The
next
generation
of
Workforce-
it's
just
it-
makes
all
the
sense
in
the
world,
so
we're
excited
to
partner
definitely
here
to
field
questions,
if
you
all
have
them
and
again,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
today.
B
K
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
rich.
Thank
you,
Mr
dieterial
for
being
here,
I.
Remember
when
we
got
the
the
allocation
of
our
funding
that
this
I
thought
this
was
the
perfect
fit
I
remember
advocating
to
Mayor
Weber
figure
it
out.
We
need
to
Advocate
I
mean
allocate
resources
for
this.
K
This
is
something
that
that
it's
a
stepping
stone
for
folks,
not
not
every
student
takes
that
leap
into
college
and
if
we
can
provide
those
opportunities
for
our
young
folks
to
have
opportunities
with
businesses
or
government
and
and
maybe
take
that
leap
from
high
school
to
employment,
it's
a
win-win
for
everybody.
K
I
also
sat
on
the
flip
side
of
the
coin,
because
it
when
you're
a
young
person
the
world,
is
your
oyster
and
you
think
you're
going
to
accomplish
everything
and
it's
an
opportunity
for
a
young
person
to
gain
that
Real
World
experience,
and
maybe
it
might
not
be
the
career
path.
They
thought
it
was
going
to
be
and
they
have
a
different
career
trajectory.
K
So
it's
that
that
first
opportunity
for
a
young
person
to
really
enter
the
the
job
market,
the
professional
Market,
whatever
it
may
be-
and
I
I-
know
that
director
Brown
said
this
funding
expires
in
two
years.
K
Well,
I
know
this
will
be
successful
and
and
then
two
years
the
success
will
be
we'll,
be
able
to
demonstrate
that
and
we'll
hopefully
be
able
to
allocate
additional
resources
out
of
outside
of
our
resources,
because
this
is
something
that
it's
a
no-brainer,
as
you
mentioned,
Mr
villarrealis
is
something
where
I
I
remember
explaining
to
the
mayor.
K
This
is
something
where
we
could
bring
a
young
person
in
and
have
them
enter
intern
with
you
all
the
way
down
throughout
the
entire
government
structure,
or
we
partner
up
with
the
chamber
and
put
them
in
whatever
it
is
we're
that
connector
and
I'm
just
excited
I
was
a
participant
in
a
similar
program
in
high
school,
for
it
was
a
tourism
and
hospitality,
and
it
was
one
of
those
experiences
where
I
kind
of
realized
yeah.
Maybe
the
hospitality
industry
was
not
my
future,
but
it
same
here
I
mean
in
undergrad.
K
It
was
but
it's
what
kept.
The
ramen
noodles
on
the
table,
but
but
I
also
realized
that
long-term,
that
wasn't
my
cup
of
tea
so
to
speak,
but
I
think
these
are
the
the
type
of
opportunities
that
we
need
to
continue
to
provide
our
youth
in
our
community
to
ensure
that
not
only
the
opportunities
are
there
that
we're
we're,
providing
a
space
for
them
to
stay
engaged
in
our
community.
So
so
thank
you
so
much
and
I
wholeheartedly
support
this.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank.
F
You,
madam
chair,
just
want
to
thank
my
Tokyo
Villarreal,
so
exciting,
I
didn't
know,
I
had
a
Primo
in
town.
Thank
you
for
your
work
and
and
being
with
us
and
to
talk
about
the
importance
and
I
also
want
to
thank
Julie
Sanchez,
because
she
and
I
talked
about
this.
F
Quite
a
bit
and
I
had
told
her
about
how
important
inspires
Santa
Fe
used
to
be
when
it
was
still
active
as
a
non-profit,
because
we
would
actually
see
some
of
the
mentors
or
mentees
actually
come
to
the
city
and
I
was
wanting
to
emulate
something
similar
and
I'm.
So
I'm
glad
that
the
Santa
Fe
Public
Schools
was
able
to
put
this
together
and
or
you
while
we're
able
to
combine
efforts
so
excited
to
see
where
it
goes
and
who
gets
to
work
with
the
interns.
D
Well,
he
has
a
current
program,
a
manager
Council
via
thank
you
for
reminding
me
that
Jew
Sanchez
has
been
very
instrumental
in
putting
this
together,
and
one
of
the
key
points
of
our
arpa
funding,
which
is
exciting
to
the
federal
government
to
us,
is
that
she
is
adding
on
mentorship
to
not
only
support
Mr
burial
here,
but
also
for
the
students.
D
So
she
and
the
human
health
and
safety
group
are
adding
more
funding
to
help
us
bring
more
mentors
to
the
table
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
the
key
thing
is
that
kids
get
soft
skills
and
they
get
Hearts
certainly,
and
that
soft
skills
part
is
where
this
mentorship
is
going
to
come
to
play.
So
that's
key
for
us
to
what
council
Garcia
said
that
it
allows
us
to
look
at
this
is
a
long-term
project.
D
F
Excellent
I
guess
the
other
question
was
like
planning
ahead
once
we
don't
have
arpa
funds
to
just
building
budgets
so
that
it
does
continue
supporting,
because
I
think
that
was
one
thing
will
inspire
Santa
Fe.
It
was
various
reasons
why
they
didn't
continue
and
kova
didn't
help,
but
it
was
like
the
long-term
way
of
trying
to
seek
funding
to
continue
the
internships
and
mentorship
programs
so
and
I
I
believe
that
the
Santa
Fe
Public
Schools
has
committed
funding
for
this.
Or
is
this
also
arpa
funding
through?
For
you
all.
P
Madam
chair,
councilor
Villarreal,
it
is
similar
so
we're
floating
our
Esser
funds,
which
is
Federal
relief,
funding.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I
appreciate
the
like
dialogue
here
between
everyone,
I
I'm,
very
excited
to
see
this
I
I've
said
for
a
long
time
that
it's
we
need
to
get
the
students
that
are
not
going
to
be
on
the
career
track,
obviously
to
go
to
a
four-year
University
in
you
know,
further
education
and
in
that
respect,
to
have
some
sort
of
life
skills
and
and
and
not
just
the
work
based
learning
but
life
skills,
because
I
think
a
lot
of
times
our
young
folk,
don't
once
they
get
out
into
the
world.
J
J
You
still
have
to
have
that
life
skill
before
you
spend
that
money,
you
better
have
it,
and
so
that's
part
of
the
whole
process,
not
just
not
just
teaching
them
how
to
do
a
trade
or
get
into
a
certain
field
to
better.
But
it's
a
it's
a
complete
circle
and
I
think
very
interested
to
see
how
this,
how
this
evolves
and
it's
very
much
needed
within
our
youth,
because
a
lot
of
them
they
don't
have
Direction.
J
They
don't
know
where
they're
going
to
go
after
high
school
or
even
during
high
school,
when
they
may
need
to
carry
some
responsibility
in
their
household
and
how
that
affects
not
a
a
huge
population
of
people
who
live
in
my
district,
especially
in
three
and
four
and
so
I'm
excited
to
see
what
transpires
with
this
and
and
how
in
the
future,
we
could
continue
to
support
it.
Even
when
funding
from
Harper
is
not
there.
B
Thank
you
so
much
counselor
yeah
we're
all
on
board.
This
is
a
great
program,
I'm
curious,
I,
don't
know
if
you
mentioned
how
many
businesses
are
currently
participating.
P
Madam
chair,
yes,
so
I
actually
have
the
list
in
front
of
me
in
case
I
didn't
remember
in
my
mind,
but
we
do
have
the
hospitality
industry
so
Rosewood
Inn
of
the
Anasazi,
for
example,
LaFonda
on
the
Plaza
Four
Seasons
Hotel,
Santa
Fe.
We
also
have
creative
startups
on
the
entrepreneurship
and
business
sector.
We
also
have
our
schools
so
we're
an
Enterprise
really
at
Santa
Fe,
Public
Schools.
It
takes
Transportation,
Food,
Services
and,
of
course,
the
teaching
pathway.
P
So
we
have
interns
there
as
well,
and
then
the
city
government,
the
state
government
we
have
interns,
spread
all
over
those
different
agencies
and
and
divisions.
We
actually
a
new
partner
is
the
Fab
Lab
Hub.
So
the
new
caller
network
is
another
name,
they
call
themselves
so
that's
3D,
printing,
CNC,
routing,
artificial
intelligence,
the
advanced
manufacturing,
basically
the
next
generation
of
of
manufacturing.
So
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
our
students
to
learn
those
skills
because
there
will
be
a
jobs
available
in
those
Industries.
I
P
We
also
have
dentistry
for
kids,
one
of
the
medical
fields.
We,
we
have
a
medical
pathway
at
Capital
and
we
have
a
rich
history
of
partnering,
with
Christus
St,
Vincent
and
and
having
job
shadow
experiences
there.
So
we're
going
to
continue
with
that
as
well
and
include
that
in
our
work
based
learning
program,
County
assessor's
office,
I
mentioned
the
the
state
of
New
Mexico.
P
What
a
diesel
mechanic
and
a
regular
gas
engine
mechanic
does
shadowing
underneath
the
master,
mechanics
and
then
it
will
actually
turn
into
an
apprenticeship
which
the
state
is
looking
to
fund,
which
I
don't
remember
if
it's
AES
or
ASC
Certified,
so
they'll
get
certified
after
the
apprenticeship
and
then,
of
course,
become
an
employee.
So
what
a
great
investment
from
the
from
the
state?
P
Stagecoach
Foundation
is
also
another
partner,
so
the
film
industry,
so
we
gotta-
oh
Harry's,
Roadhouse,
culinary
arts
so
and
of
course,
just
speaking
back
on
our
hotels,
our
Hospitality,
our
hoteliers,
we
actually
piloted
with
them
this
Summer
and
the
way
that
we
actually
recruited
we
had
them
come
in
in
the
classroom,
which
was
really
cool.
The
GMS
came
in
talked
to
our
students.
They
pitched
on
how
they
started
as
pot
washers
and
dishwashers
and
worked
their
way
up
through
the
ranks
and
they
never
needed
a
college
education
to
do
that.
P
They
just
worked
their
way
up,
and
that
was
a
great
it
really
resonated
with
our
students
and-
and
they
talked
about
their
hotels
as
a
small
city,
because
we
we
think
of
going
to
these
these
hotels
and
getting
a
room
if
you're,
traveling
or
world
class
here
in
tourism,
and
we
think
of
the
front
desk.
We
think
of
the
restaurant,
for
example,
but
they
also
offered
opportunities
such
as
finance
and
sales
and
marketing
and
events
and
planning,
and
our
students
got
to
experience
what
that
is.
P
They
also
have
an
engineering
department,
I
didn't
realize
they
had
that.
So
it's
a
great
kind
of
robust
opportunity
at
these
hotels
that
they're
offering
for
our
students
and
the
guidance
there
from
the
supervisors
is
incredible.
There's
a
mentor
on
that
side
and
as
director
Brown
has
mentioned,
there's
a
mentor
on
our
school
district
side,
which
are
internship
teachers.
So
it's
a
really
nicely
structured
program
that
provides
guidance
on
both
sides
provides
the
opportunity
for
students
to
grow
and
mature.
D
We
have
a
lot
of
people
who
are
under
50,
but
they
are
been
here
for
25
years
and
there
is
a
retirement,
a
call
crisis,
but
there's
retirement
issue
we
have
to
face,
and
so
we
need
to
look
at
succession
planning
and
folks
who
have
been
here
for
25
years
started
at
19
started
at
20..
D
So
we
do
look
at
it
as
a
pipeline
potentially
for
City
employment,
and
this
work-based
learning
would
be
a
great
way
to
spread
it
out
through
all
the
Departments
that
are
here,
so
that
they
get
a
sense
of
what
we
do
in
the
Santa
Fe.
It's
a
Santa,
Fe
Pace
job
and
we're
hoping
that
we
can
address
that
so
I've
been
working
with
HR
and
and
actually
Mr
viral
also
has
been
speaking
to
them.
So
that
is
on
our
our
list.
D
Secondly,
I
wanted
to
let
you
all
know
that,
as
as
we
talked
about
this
program,
we
look
at
this
proposal
here
as
a
floor
and
not
a
ceiling.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
capture
as
many
kids
as
possible.
D
D
So
this
is
sort
of
a
starting
point
for
us
and,
and
we've
talked
about
as
he
grows
the
program
we
want
to
be
there
as
a
city
to
to
be
a
partner,
so
I
may
have
to
come
back
to
you
if
I
run
out
of
Opera
funding,
but
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
all
I
think
believe
that
making
this
a
floor
instead
of
a
ceiling
is
a
good
thing
for
our
community
and
for
jobs
and
for
the
economy.
So
wonderful,
thank
you.
B
Well
that
that
actually,
my
my
edac
brain
apparently
has
just
like
clinked
on,
because
I
have
a
number
of
questions
that
I'll
try
to
be
extremely
brief.
Given
the
hour
that
was,
one
of
them
is
that
if
you're
a
business
and
you're
interested
in
hosting
interns
who
do
you
contact.
B
And
would
you
be
able
to
somehow
get
us
your
contact
information,
absolutely
that'd,
be
wonderful
and
then
I'm
curious
as
you're
looking
at
different
Industries.
B
You
know
similar
to
what
director
Brown
was
stating
about
the
you
know:
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
the
city
as
an
employer,
not
as
a
geographic
region.
You
know
that
there's
you
know,
there's
going
to
be
these
opportunities.
We
do
also
have
these
sectors
that
we
know
that
there's
a
real
shortage
in
and
that
there's
a
real
need.
B
I
literally,
cannot
apparently
do
a
meeting
without
talking
about
child
care,
and
so
there's
been
a
lot
of
work
that
we've
been
doing
with
with
child
care
and
the
community
college
and
trying
to
build
a
apprenticeship
program
there
to
help
build
that
industry.
Another
one
that
I've
been
hearing
a
lot
about-
and
that
has
been
top
of
my
mind-
is
the
mental
health
field
and
really
talking
to
students
who
maybe
are
interested
in
health
care,
but
turns
out.
B
Maybe
they
don't
like
blood
so
much
or
fluids,
and
so
you
know
how
do
we
or
are
you
taking
kind
of
a
look
at
where
there
is
growth
and
where
there's
also
these
real
Community
needs
and
how
potentially
exposing
students
who
would
be
very
interested
and
would
be
a
great
fit
for
these
fields?
To
these
fields,
knowing
that
it
also
meets
this
kind
of
broader
weather,
economic
or
health
need
within
our
community
and
has
that
work
started
to
happen.
P
Madam
chair,
thank
you
for
the
for
the
question.
So,
first
of
all
to
talk
about
Early
Childhood.
We
actually
have
a
new
program
in
Santa
Fe,
Public
Schools,
our
Early,
Childhood,
Center
and
actually
I
have
a
couple
kids
that
attend
there.
It's
incredible,
but
we
also
have
interns
there.
So
that's
an
option,
an
opportunity
to
learn
at
that
level
with
that
great
staff
and
also
just
addressing
the
needs,
like
you
mentioned,
in
different
sectors.
P
We
definitely
look
at
you
know
all
of
the
industry-leading
sectors
and
of
course
we
call
them
high
value
jobs
right
and
the
definitions
of
high
value.
The
definition
of
high
value
is
high
growth,
High
wage
and
high
demand.
So
we
definitely
want
to
spread
it
across
as
far
as
the
opportunity
in
the
in
the
health
sector,
in
the
hospitality
and
also
in
the
Arts
community
and
everything
that
drives
Santa
Fe
in
addition
to
small
business,
so
we're
open
to
really
all
partners
that
want
to
participate,
small
business
or
or
larger
business.
We
really
don't.
P
We
don't
try
to
narrow
our
Outreach,
so
we're
open
to
any
and
all
that
are
willing
to
commit
to
this
level
of
internship.
So
we
want
a
quality
Mentor.
We
want
somebody,
that's
going
to
invest
the
time
and
value
which
is
a
lot
really
so
once
you
have
an
intern,
you
get
the
experience.
You
will
also
see
the
talent
level
of
these
students
so
yeah
we
again
just
talking
about
all
of
the
leading
Industries
we're
we're
with
you.
P
As
far
as
even
the
the
mental
health
and
the
and
the
safety
sector,
like
our
Police
Academy,
as
Chief
Joy
presented
on
there's
a
shortage
of
Workforce
there,
it's
everywhere
right,
so
we're
trying
to
provide
the
the
demand
supplying
students
out
there
in
the
workforce
with
these
internship
opportunities.
I
hope
that
answered
your
question.
Yes,.
B
It
did
thank
you
so
much
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
see
that
this
is
coming
to
Economic
Development
advisory
committee
on
December
14th.
If
you
are
available,
that
would
be
wonderful,
if
not
I
think
that
it
would
be
great
to
bring
this
as
a
presentation
and
also
councilor
Travis
chairs,
the
mayor's
youth,
Advisory,
Board
and
I.
Think
it'd
be
really
interesting
to
talk
to
my
app
about
this
as
well,
and
now
I
will
stop
because
I
I
understand
that
the
hour
is
late
and
I
could
keep
going.
P
Just
one
more
thing:
man
I'm
sure
I
just
really
wanted
to
thank
director
Brown
publicly,
because
we've
been
working
behind
the
scenes
and
also
mayor
Weber
as
far
as
your
generosity
to
actually
to
move
forward
with
this
and,
of
course,
city
councilors.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
support.
It's
just
an
incredible
partnership
and
I
just
can't
wait
to
see
it
actually
live.
F
J
C
I
B
B
All
right
moving
right
along
to
item
okay,
if
I
can
find
it
here
we
go.
So
this
is
consideration
of
a
resolution
relating
to
Firearms,
recognizing
that
certain
City
properties
are
used
for
school
related
activities
which
makes
the
carrying
of
a
deadly
weapon
on
such
properties.
A
fourth
degree
felony
pursuant
to
nmsa
1978,
section
30-7-2.1
and
directing
the
city
manager
to
work
with
staff
to
post
notice
on
such
facilities.
We
have
director
Ochoa
from
community
health
and
safety
department
here
to
present
and
answer
questions.
F
Would
like
to
start
I'll
start.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
director
Ochoa.
So
you
look
scared,
maybe
I'm
getting
tired
and
giddy,
but
you're
like
what
is
she
gonna?
Ask
me
I.
You
know
in
concept
I'm,
supportive
of
this
and
I
guess.
I
was
just
trying
to
make
sure
how
at
first
my
question
was
like
what
what
locations
would
be
the
areas
we're
focused
on
in
in
the
resolution.
F
It
lists
them:
Convention
Center,
the
MRC,
complex
Hanover,
Chavez,
Mainline,
all
the
libraries
and
the
facilities
in
which
the
mayor's
youth,
Advisory
Board
holds
our
meetings
and
then
other
facilities
in
which
students
visit
or
as
part
of
a
school
related
or
School
sanctioned
activity,
including
like
midday
version.
F
Does
that
mean
we
put
up
permanent
signs
for
those
facilities?
Are
they
temporary
signs
for
those
facilities
that
are
have
interns
or
they
just?
Are
we
going
to
be
putting
up
permanent
signs
pretty
much
anywhere
that
we
potentially
could
have
an
intern
housed?
I,
don't
know,
I,
guess
that
one
was
confusing
to
me.
I
think
the
other
ones
were
very.
L
Madam,
chair,
councilman,
viennel
I,
would
have
to
consult
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
get
you
a
definitive
answer,
but
my
first
answer
would
be
that
to
err
on
the
safe
side
they
would
be
permanently
posted
because
I
think
it
would
be
difficult
operationally
to
you
know,
wonder
when
an
intern
was
in
the
building
or
not
in
the
building
and
remove
signs.
So
but
that's
a
tentative
answer.
L
I
can
get
you
a
confirmation
of
an
answer
after
Consulting
with
the
city
attorney
or
perhaps
councilor
Chavez
I,
don't
know
as
the
co
sponsor.
If
you
have
any.
E
F
Okay,
I
was
just
checking
to
see
what
that
would
look
like
because
it
it
could
potentially
be
all
our
facilities
because
we
potentially
could
have
interns
everywhere.
So
all
right
that
yeah
I
guess
if
we
could
just
get
clarity,
I
just
didn't
know
what
would
be
the
best
route
for
that.
The
other
question
I
had
was:
are
we
utilizing
the
teen
center
anymore?
Why
am
I
forgetting
the
name
of
it
on
our.
L
Councilman
Carlos
Ortega
Center.
Thank
you.
We
are
not
utilizing
not
building.
Currently
the
teen
programs
are
offered
at
hanaba,
Chavez,
Center
so
and
of
course,
very
soon
we
hope
they'll
be
offered
at
the
teen
center
on
the
South
Side.
So
we're
really
transitioning
away
from
that
location.
Okay,.
F
L
You
for
the
younger
kids
yeah,
no,
those
have
not
been
utilized.
We
were
so
excited
as
as
wonderful
as
those
buildings
are
have
been.
You
know,
I
know
many
people,
myself
included.
My
kids
went
through
this
in
those
buildings,
have
such
a
fun
place
in
their
heart
for
those
buildings
really
because
of
the
the
location
of
most
of
the
young
families
in
Santa
Fe.
L
We
found
that
the
Chavez
Center
and
the
partnership,
obviously
in
the
school
with
the
schools
during
the
summer,
has
proven
adequate
to
meet
the
needs
and
now
that
the
youth
programs
really
emphasize
all
youth
getting
access
to
the
facility
at
the
top
facilities
at
the
charter,
Center
that's
been
proving
a
pretty
successful.
Popular
model
got.
F
It
okay,
thank
you,
I'm
sure.
We've
vetted
this
for
legal
implications.
If
someone
were
tried
would
try
to
I
just
don't
try
to
well
sue
us,
but
also
try
to
counter
that
this,
isn't
that
it
doesn't
it's
not
legally
enforceable
or
something
like
that.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you,
if
you
all,
have
any
insight
if
there
was
obviously
some
legal
vetting
that
needed
to
happen
before
this
got
introduced.
Bottom.
L
Terror,
as
with
all
legislation
or
being
introduced,
the
city
attorney's
office
looks
closely
at
all
of
that
and
that
due
diligence
has
been
performed.
So,
yes,
okay,.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
director,
Ochoa
for
being
here
answering
our
questions.
I
guess,
I
have
I
had
similar
questions
to
what
councilwoman
had
in
in
regards
to
what,
because
we
have
State
statue,
I
mean
I
I.
Think
that
we're
all
aware
of
that
I
think
that
the
intent
of
of
something
such
as
this
that's
being
proposed
is
ultimately
to
keep
our
children
safe
and
I,
mean
I.
J
J
From
performing
horrible
horrible
acts,
especially
acts
that
have
been
presented
here
in
the
resolution
and
and
I
I,
typically
always
struggle
with
this,
because
I
think
we've
even
heard
you
know
in
the
last
few,
within
the
last
30
days
of
horrible
acts
being
done
to
students
in
a
college
that
it
would.
You
know
it
wasn't
in
regards
to
Firearms.
It
was
another
deadly
weapon
that
was
used,
and
how
do
we
minimize
that
and
so
going
on
to
that?
J
I
I,
I
I,
sometimes
think
back
to
my
my
upbringing
and
how
I
was
brought
up
and
I
would
go
hunting
just
to
see
and
a
hunting
rifle
is
a
deadly
weapon
and
with
no
intent
to
take
it
on
to
a
school
premises.
J
E
Solution
like
and
something
that
I
think
is
important
is
like
an
ongoing
discussion
with
the
police
department
on
how
they
are
going
to
enforce
this.
E
E
The
signage
is
going
to
exist
more
so
at
the
entrance
of
facilities,
which
is
someone
walking
in
with
a
gun
on
their
body,
which
I
I
think
is
what
we're
trying
to
prevent,
especially
if
there's
children
around,
but
that
the
the
police
department
is
going
to
be
in
discussion
with
the
city
manager,
how
to
best
enforce,
enforce
this
and
how
that
component's,
gonna,
look,
which
I
think
is
the
appropriate
thing.
J
Thank
you
for
the
answer:
counselor,
Chavez
and
so
again,
I
I,
understand
that
and
and
I
completely
agree
with
it
with
especially
you
under
State
statue
and
how
it
directs
these
rules
towards
schools.
J
So
I
guess
in
the
next
question
I
would
have
is
how
often
our
people,
our
school
activities
being
held
on
City
properties
and
again
the
the
the
stroke
is
Big.
There's
a
there's
a
so
many
see
properties,
and
so
how
often
and
what's
the
percentage
of
activity
with
school-age
children
or
school
activities
on
City
premises?
Do
we
know
that
statistic.
L
L
We
have
Library
programming
for
young
children
almost
almost
every
day,
at
least
at
another
at
one
of
the
branches
of
the
library.
So
I
would
anticipate
that
this
would
be
a
fairly
full-time
signage
for
that
purpose,
again,
I
think
operationally.
It
would
be
challenging,
but
I'd
look
for
guidance
from
the
city
attorney
on
when
to
take
a
sign
off
or
on.
L
L
You
know
it's,
it's
a
substantial
amount
of
time.
I
don't
have
a
number
for
you
tonight,
but
I
can
look
into
it.
J
And
somebody
were
to
be
or
to
have
a
a
firearm
whatever
it
may
be,
whether
it's
open,
carry
or
concealed
carry
they're
subjective
to
this
to
this
felony
charge
if
they
are,
if
they
are
caught,
I
guess
or
reported
and
then
caught
and
then
can
be
charged
with
a
felony
which
I
think
is
tough.
For
me,
I
didn't
see
definitions
in
regards
to
deadly
weapons.
So
what
would
that
consist
of?
Is
it
only
firearms.
J
Thank
you,
and
so
this
City
attorney
is
obviously
signed
off
on
the
legislation.
So
obviously
he
feels
that
this
is
an
enforceable
deal
if
we
were
to
pass
it.
J
One
other
thing,
I
kind
of
have
is-
is
being
that
you
have.
We
have
listed
here
the
sites
that
would
be
included
in
the
legislation,
be
it
further
resolved
than
h3922.
It
says
the
city
manager
identifies
additional
City
locations
that
are
used
for
school,
related
or
sanctioned
events,
so
that
would
be
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
city
manager,
I'm,
assuming
just
by
the
wording.
I
J
Again,
that's
just
leaves
I
to
me.
It
needs
it
too
much
way.
A
lot
of
control
out
of
our
ability
to
yeah
I've
struggled
with
this,
because
you
know
how
do
we
keep
our
people
safe
and
our
community
safe,
and
is
this
going
to
stop
somebody
from
committing
a
very
horrendous
Act
on
people
who
are
on
on
our
community
on
our
children
on
people
who
are
vulnerable
and
I?
J
Don't
necessarily
know
that
this
is
is
something
that
will
will
it's
just
my
thought
process
and
that's
going
to
deter
that
to
me.
J
What
it
seems
like
is:
it
regulates
us
more
and
more
and
more
and
from
a
person
that
comes
from
that
perspective
and
looks
at
it
from
that
I
that
that
side
we
want
to
come
up
with
real
solutions
that
would
deter
something
bad
happening
to
our
children
to
our
community
and
so
therefore,
I
I
kind
of
have
a
little
bit
of
an
issue
with
it
and
not
necessarily
feel
that
I
can
support
it.
J
Because
again,
it
just
feels
as
if
it's
more
constricting
to
our
the
people,
who
are
law-abiding,
whether
they
are
concealed,
carry
or
even
open,
carry
based
on
state
statutes,
so
I
think
from
that
perspective,
this
is
where
I'm
coming
from
and
that's
my
thought,
process
and
I'll
I'll
yield
the
floor.
If
anybody
else
any
other
questions.
Thank
you.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
think
we
can
all
agree.
We
is
a
government
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
ensure
that
not
only
that
our
children
are
safe,
but
everybody
in
our
community
and
I
I
think
taking
the
actions
to
ensure
that,
when
whether
it's
somebody
attending
a
school
sanctioned
event
or
going
to
a
nightclub,
Oaks
feel
safe,
folks
feel
protected
and
folks
know
that,
should
something
arise
there
are
systems
in
place
to
help
mitigate
whatever
challenge.
It
is
whether
it's
a
firearm
or
another
type
of
deadly
weapon.
K
So
so
I'm
glad
we're
beginning
the
conversation,
because
it
absolutely
is
a
conversation.
We
need
to
figure
out
what
can
be
done
now.
K
I
guess
I.
My
concerns
arise
around
the
authority
and
the
State
Attorney
General's
office
this
month,
December
1st
recently
opined
on
a
very
similar
topic
and
there's
the
the
opinion
was
on
the
prohibition
of
weapons
in
multi-use,
county-owned
buildings
and
the
Attorney
General's
office
deemed
that.
K
The
municipality
could
not
regulate
that
and,
and
so
I
just
want
to
read
you
a
section
of
this
and
and
I'm
happy
to
share
this
opinion
with
the
committee.
Just
so
you
can
read
it
in
full,
but
a
portion
of
it.
It
reads:
in
1986
the
New
Mexico
Constitution
was
amended
to
preemptive
municipalities
or
County's
ability
to
regulate
The
Possession
and
bearing
of
firearms.
K
The
Constitutional
Amendment
consisted
of
the
addition
of
a
single
sentence,
which
stated
no
municipality
or
County
shall
regulate
in
any
way
an
incident
of
the
right
to
keep
and
bear
arms.
New,
Mexico,
Constitution,
Article,
2,
Section
6.
The
amendment
effectively
reserved
the
state,
the
right
to
regulate
firearms
and
removed
the
local
government's
ability
to
regulate
firearms.
K
The
prescription
on
local
regulation
is
both
clear
and
unambiguous,
so
that
gets
to
the
question
that
councilwoman
Via
Real
had
earlier
in
regards
to
vetting
this
resolution.
K
This
is
a
resolution,
given
we
know
that
it
is
clearly
stipulated
in
our
constitution
that
we
don't
have
this
Authority,
that
we
didn't
seek
additional
opinion.
Besides
and
and
I
guess,
that's
that's
a
question.
K
I
shouldn't
say
we
didn't,
but
we
didn't
seek
it
in
the
sense
we
went
to
the
Attorney
General's
office
and
if
we
did
I'd
like
to
know
if
we
did,
but
because
if
the
logic
is
the
same
as
what
what
this
request
and
the
opinion
that
was
issued
just
what
six
days
ago,
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
regulate
this.
K
So
with
that
being
said,
if
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
to
regulate
the
carrying
of
firearms,
what
do
we
have
the
authority
to
do?
And
how
can
we
begin
to
install
the
such
measures?
K
K
There
are
mechanisms
where
there
are
locked
down
immediate
lockdown
protocols,
I
mean
because
the
city
hall
is
almost
pretty
much
in
that
because
of
covet.
But
you
know,
schools
have
the
ability
to
flip
a
switch
and
school's
locked
down.
K
You've
got
things
on
doors
that
can
be
installed
to
prohibit
folks
from
moving
from
one
room
to
another,
and
so
I
think
I'd
like
for
us
before
we
move
forward,
as
as
a
governing
body
with
this
request
to
seek
the
opinion
of
the
Attorney
General
on
this,
because
I'd
hate
for
us
to
be
in
a
position
where
we
move
forward
and
it's
we're
overstepping
our
Authority
and
I
I
strongly
believe
we
want
to
keep
our
community
members
safe,
especially
our
young
folks.
K
But
but
is
this
an
action
that
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
take
and
and
I
reading
the
Attorney
General's
opinion
here
we
clearly
don't
and
unless
otherwise
stated
and
I
and
whether
it's
the
the
City
attorney
or
somebody
else
that
says
well,
yes,
you
do
I
I
I'm
willing
to
then
entertain
that,
but
at
this
moment
I
don't
have
any
other
evidence
that
says
we
do
if,
if
a
school
and
I
think
I'm
looking
at
it
from
a
reverse
that
the
logic
used
we're
using
to
Implement
such
measures,
we've
taken
the
school-aged
approach.
K
I
guess
my
question
is:
have
we
reached
out
to
the
schools
to
say?
Well,
you
do
the
legislation
we'll
put
the
signs
up
on
our
buildings
is
that
allowable
I
think
that
it's
again,
this
is
a
great
conversation
to
be
had
in
regards
to
how
we
can
get
around
it,
but
I
think
us
as
a
governing
body.
We
do
not
have
the
authority
to
take
Section.
Take
such
action
just
go
basically
going
off
of
what's
currently
in
our
state
constitution
and
what
the
Attorney
General's
office
just
recently
opined
on
less
than
a
week
ago,.
K
So
at
this
moment,
I
I
know
director
Ochoa
or
not.
The
City
attorney
I
wish.
The
City
attorney
was
here
to
help
clarify
some
of
these
questions
and
I.
Think
that's
maybe
where
I
don't
know.
If
we
postpone
moving
this
forward
until
the
city
attorney's
office
can
come
with
some
of
these
clarifying
questions,
because
at
this
moment
I
can't
support
it
moving
forward
until
I
get
some
of
that
clarification
again.
K
E
It
states
any
other
public
buildings
or
grounds,
including
playfields,
and
parking
areas
that
are
not
public
school
property
in
or
on
which
Public
School,
related
and
sanctioned
activities
are
being
performed,
so
any
partnership
between
Santa
Fe
Public.
This
is
what
I
imagined
I
wasn't
part
of
the
City
attorney
conversations,
but
what
that
in
school,
sanctioned
I
would
imagine
that
would
include
any
mou
or
agreement
between
the
city
and
Santa
Fe,
Public
Schools
or
any
other
Ali
A
or
educational
agency.
E
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
I,
going
back
to
that.
I
appreciate
the
information
by
councilor,
Garcia,
Michael
and,
and
then
the
explanation
by
councilor,
Chavez,
I
I
would
I
would
then
take
that
information
and
say.
J
Okay,
then,
is
only
the
time
that
students
or
activities
are
being
sponsored
by
and
that
are
sanctioned
on
city
property
are
the
only
times
that
maybe
this
could
be
enforced
because
anytime
other
than
that
it
almost
sounds
like
it's
unenforceable
and
so
they're
going
back
to
the
question
about
posting
signs
permanently,
it
would
have
to
be
stated
only
while
school
activities
that
are
being
sanctioned
by
the
public
schools
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
You
know,
that's
just
my
thought.
Process
and
I
think
I'll
stop.
C
F
A
thought
just
I'm,
trying
to
that's
one
area,
that's
a
little
gray
for
me
that
I
can
understand,
sanctioned
programs
with
Santa
Fe
Public
Schools,
and
then
we
were
talking
about
different
activities
and
things
that
we
have
at
the
library.
F
They
may
not
necessarily
be
Public
School,
sanctioned
activities
or
even
public
school
students,
it's
really
just
Youth,
and
so,
where
is
there
a
gray
area
that
is
not
protecting
us
in
a
way
like
I
guess
with
the
statute,
you
read:
it's
really
focused
on
Public
Schools
activities
and
this
one
is
kind
of
like
broadly
covering
any
event
or
activity
that
has
to
do
with
youth,
and
we
don't
know
if
they're
part
of
the
public
school
districts
or
any
sanctioned
activities,
so
I
think
that's
where
I'm
kind
of
like
I
would
love
the
attorney's
opinion.
F
B
What
I'm
hearing
a
lot
from
the
committee
is
a
lot
of
questions
and
it
sounds
like
we
do
not
have
the
staff
on
board
who
or
the
staff
here
that
should
be
answering
the
questions.
I
think
councilor
Garcia
hit
the
nail
on
the
head
that
probably
what
would
be
within
our
best
interest
is
to
postpone
or
what
am
I,
what
is
it
postponing
until
the
until
the
following
quality
of
life
committee
meeting,
and
we
can
make
sure
that
we
have
the
city
attorney's
office
here
to
answer
the
questions.
B
K
I'll
make
a
motion
to
postpone
for
further
until
our
next
meeting
to
allow
for
additional
staff
input
on
the
matter.
J
I'll,
second,
that
and
I
I
think
that
it
would
be
appropriate
if
I
may
Madam
chair
to
to
specify
again
what
we
are
looking
for
and
I
think
we
somewhat
have
in
regards
to
the
City
attorney
and
please
address
our
questions
in
regards
to
what
was
read
here
and
the
statements
by
councilor
Garcia
I.
Don't
really
like
that
clarification
well,.
B
I
would
highly
recommend,
given
you
know
that
this
will
probably
take
some
research
that,
prior
to
the
January
4th
meeting,
if
people
can
please
submit
questions
to
director
Ochoa
who's
listed
as
staff
and
director
Cho
can
send
it
over
City
attorneys
or
maybe
CC
the
City
attorney
on
there,
so
that
there
is
plenty
of
opportunity.
As
councilor
Garcia
mentioned
this,
this
opinion
from
the
AG's
office
it
came
actually
after
it
was
introduced.
B
So
I
don't
know
if
that
is
new
information
that
factors
into
this
consideration,
so
I
would
definitely
recommend
that
those
questions
be
forwarded
over
to
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
director
Ochoa,
so
that
there
is
ample
opportunity
for
them
to
research
answers
prior
to
us
discussing
this
again
on
the
January
4th
meeting
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
members
of
the
committee
and,
if
not,
can
I.
Please
have
a
roll
call
vote
to
postpone
this
item
until
Wednesday
January
4th.
B
Motion
has
passed.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you,
director,
Ochoa
all
right.
Moving
on
last
item,
consideration,
I
am
not
going
to
read
this
whole
thing.
Y'all
consideration
of
a
bill
sponsored
by
counselor,
Garcia
and
I,
have
signed
on
as
a
co-star
sponsor
it's
an
ordinance
relating
to
electric
bicycles.
It's
amending
a
number
of
sections.
It
is
updating
some
definitions
and
putting
in
some
regulations.
B
Romella
is
not
here
so
Hi.
How
are
you
I.
B
You,
and
so
we
will
be
moving
to
hear
this
now
with
Kevin
nault
as
our
assistant,
City
attorney
and
councilor
Garcia.
You
had
pulled
this
as
well
as
counselor.
B
Lee
Garcia
both
Garcias,
have
built
this,
so
I
will
move
to
councilor
Michael
Garcia
as
a
sponsor.
First
thank.
K
You,
madam
chair
I,
think
Kevin
has
a
brief
presentation
for
us
and
then
with
that
go
ahead
and
defer
to
counselor
Garcia
or
any
questions.
I
do
have
a
an
amendment
based
we've
I've,
going
to
be
introducing
based
on
feedback
from
our
police
team,
but
with
that
I'll
defer
to
Kevin
for
a
brief
presentation.
Q
Thank
you,
madam
chair
counselors.
Very
briefly,
the
this
bill
amends
a
few
sections
of
the
city
code.
Largely
there
are
kind
of
two
parts
to
the
Amendments,
the
smaller
part.
There
is
a
speed
limit
set
city-wide
for
bicycles
on
sidewalks
and
a
corresponding
removal
of
the
requirement
that
cyclists
ride
on
sidewalks
or
bike
paths
when
available,
rather
than
in
the
streets,
so
speed
limit
on
the
sidewalk
and
then
but
cyclists
can
use
the
road
next,
you
know
adjacent
as
well.
Q
The
more
important
part
is
essentially
wrapped
around
the
intent
to
bring
Clarity
to
the
use
of
you
know.
Battery
powered
electric
bicycles
within
the
city
limits
and
Clarity
is
needed,
because
these
these
devices
can
range
quite
a
bit
in
in
power
and
the
speed
they
can
provide
and
also
whether
the
cyclist
has
to
Pedal
and
then
is
boosted
with
power
from
the
battery
or
whether
it
can
just
operate
as
a
motor
vehicle.
Q
In
fact,
and
so
the
electric
bicycles
are
defined
in
three
levels
that
are
taken
from
pretty
Universal
definitions
around
the
laws
of
a
number
of
states
and
anything
over
the
those
levels
which
is
specifically
any
e-bike.
That
can
go
faster
than
28
miles
an
hour
while
the
cyclist
is
pedaling
is
defined
as
a
motor
vehicle.
Q
Anything
under
that
limit,
including
electronic
bicycles,
that
can
go
up
to
20
miles
an
hour
on
the
battery
power
alone,
without
without
assisting
the
cyclist,
are
defined
into
being
bicycles
for
the
purposes
of
the
uniform
traffic
ordinance,
and
that
applies
the
standard
rules
to
them.
So
it
closes,
for
instance,
a
situation
currently
where
somebody
is
riding
a
level
two
bicycle
electronic
electric
bicycle
that
can
operate
solely
on
the
battery
power,
while
they're,
not
pedaling,
that
is
prohibited
on
bike
trails
in
the
city,
because
that
is
a
motor
vehicle.
Q
If
they
start
pedaling,
it
is
suddenly
legal.
This
obviously
puts
the
the
police
in
a
difficult
position
enforcing
that
rule,
whether
the
person
was
peddling
or
not.
If
they're
Coast,
you
know,
were
they
coasting
with
their
own
power,
so
it
just
the
the
and
I
think
that
illustrates
the
principal
Point
here,
which
is
to
provide
Clarity
to
the
use
of
electric
bicycles
in
the
city.
So
that's
the
ordinance
as
written.
There
is
an
amendment.
Councilor
Garcia
mentioned
that
I'll.
Let
him
discuss.
K
From
Heaven,
regarding
that,
if
I
can
introduce
it
to
internet,
there
was
some
confusion,
final
clarification,
but
there
was
based
on
feedback
from
our
police
team
concerns
regarding
enforceability
around
our
DWI
laws.
If
there
was
an
individual
who
was
found
to
be
intoxicated
operating
an
e-bike,
our
police
team
wanted
to
ensure
that
they
had
the
authority
to
move
forward
and
potentially
charge
an
individual
with
the
DWI
that
was
not
in
the
original
proposed
Bill
and
based
off
the
feedback.
K
We
are
now
including
e-bikes
as
a
vehicle
which
would
then
in
turn,
allow
an
operator
to
potentially
be
charged
with
the
DWI.
Should
they
be
found
in
violation
of
that
law.
That
was
at
the
recommendation
of
our
police
force.
Any
Clarity
on
that
I
think
that
was
so.
Q
The
the
version
of
the
amendment
currently
in
the
packet
is
an
outdated
version.
There
was
some
inconsistency
in
notes
and
by
the
time
everybody
had
their
their
notes
compared.
Q
Is
you
know
some
a
mistake,
then
added
like
some
more
issues,
so
we
got
the
amendment
language
largely
straightened
out
today
there
may
be
a
slight
change
just
for
the
sake
of
clarity
to
the
way
one
of
the
Amendments
is
described
but
yeah.
The
final
version
changes
the
definition
very
slightly.
It
removes
some
language
that
came
from
Federal
Regulation.
Q
H
Q
Uto,
it
defines
them
as
vehicles
which
doesn't
change
the
operator's
responsibility
with
respect
to
the
rules
of
the
road
or
anything
like
that,
but
does
clearly
Define
them
as
liable
for
DUI,
which
is
operating
a
vehicle
while
Under
the
Influence
intoxicating,
liquor
or
drugs.
So
that's
the
the
purpose
and
effect
of
that
change.
K
The
other
amendments
were
just
clearing
up
some
language
regarding
some
of
the
concerns
that
bpac
membership
had
around
going
to
pull
it
up,
classifying
them
as
Motor
Vehicles,
because
in
the
way
it's
proposed
and
so
I
don't
know.
If
folks
have
the
amendment
in
front
of
them.
B
Q
Q
What
she
told
me
was
that,
because
the
the
finalization
doesn't
change
the
effect,
you
know
it
may
change
the
language
slightly,
but
it
won't
change
the
actual
result
in
terms
of
the
the
final
text
of
the
bill
that
we
can
finalize
that
tomorrow
morning.
That's
my
understanding.
K
So
the
additional
amendments
just
struck
language
that
was
in
the
original
proposed
bill
regarding
weight.
K
It's
proposing
to
eliminate
on
a
paved
level
service
when
powered
by
solely
such
a
motor
while
ridden
by
an
operator
who
weighs
170
pounds
of
Motor,
Vehicles
I.
Think
when
we're
Consulting
with
Chief
kapia,
he
said
kind
of
non-enforceable
the
weight
issue.
We're,
not
gonna,
look
at
it
from
that
manner.
The
bpac
said:
let's
just.
K
Altogether-
and
that
was
the
proposed
amendment
here-
the
way
it
currently
sits
without
the
amendment
that
has
that
language
but
bpac
is
has.
K
That
that
be
removed
based
off
of
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
Captain
Tapia,
the
other.
As
given
noted,
we
struck
e-bikes
from
the
vehicle.
K
It
said
it
at
first,
it
was
making
exception
saying
that
e-bikes
weren't
vehicles,
but
we're
striking
the
amendment,
strikes
that
and
says
he
bikes
our
vehicles
and
then
the
other
changes
to
again
address
that
weight
issue
that
is
later
on
in
the
proposed
bill.
So
those
are
the
amendments
that
are
being
considered
based
off
the
feedback
we
had
from
the
initial
hearing
that
be
packed
from.
K
Based
off
the
comments
from
the
bpac
membership,
so
with
that
I'll
go
ahead
and
yield
the
floor
to
any
other,
questions
are
coming.
J
You,
madam
chair
and
I
I
actually
had
pulled,
had
pulled
eye,
but
I
guess
I
in
and
out
could
be,
but
that's,
okay,
but
but
I,
but
now
that
more
important
other
information
has
brought
up.
I'd
like
to
just
ask
a
question.
Since
I
have
the
floor,
other
than
Motor
Vehicles,
which
other
ways
can
a
person
get
a
DWI
or
a
DUI,
or
something
like
that.
It's
like
curious
to
know
what
I
mean
I've
heard
of
people
on
Horseback,
getting
the
teacher.
Q
It
depends
on
the
definition,
so
the
the
definition
as
it
currently
stands,
for
a
vehicle
and,
as
I
mentioned
the
city
for
the
city,
ordinance,
it's
operating
a
vehicle
well
under
the
influence
of
an
intoxicating,
liquor
or
drugs.
If
I
from
memory,
the
state
statute
is
actually
a
motor
vehicle,
so
it's
slightly
different,
but
for
the
city
ordinance,
the
definition
of
vehicle
is
every
device
in
a
pawn
or
by
which
any
person
or
property
is
or
may
be
transported
or
drawn.
Q
Upon
A
Street,
including
any
frame
chassis
body
or
you
or
unitized,
Frame
and
Body
of
any
vehicle
or
motor
vehicle,
except
the
devices
moved
by
human
power,
were
used
exclusively
upon
stationary
rails
or
tracks.
So
to
your
example,
I
would
say
here:
A
horse
is
not
a
device,
and
so
a
DUI
on
a
horse
would
not
be
possible.
However,
if
you
had
a
car
without
an
engine
in
it
and
you
hitched
a
horse
to
it,
you
could
then
be
you
know,
charged
with
DUI,
so
that
so
ever
underestimate
human
creativity.
Q
Q
Q
You
know
without
reading
the
whole
definition
right,
28
miles
an
hour
or
less
so
if
you're
operating
one
of
those
you
would
be
subject
to
DUI
a
standard
bicycle
would
not
be
subject
to
DUI.
That's
not
included
in
the
definition,
so.
J
And
so
again
you
know
I've
used
them.
I
am
on
vacation
and
I.
Think
I've
able
to
go
40
50,
almost
40
50
miles
with
traffic
at
full
power.
If
you
really,
if
you
really
want
to
do
it
and
so
again,
I
I
just
kind
of
wanted
clarification,
since
that
was
brought
up,
because
I
think
somebody
could
do
them
do
very
serious
harm
to
themselves
and
possibly
others
if
they
were
under
the
influence
driving.
One
of
these,
so
I
I
mean
I.
J
Guess
it's
a
better
mode
of
transportation
than
a
vehicle,
but
I'll
Stand
I'll
yield
the
floor.
Thank
you.
Those
are
my
questions.
A
K
Q
K
Okay
with
that.
Q
H
B
A
K
K
You,
madam
chair,
I'll,
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
Amendments,
as
were
inserted
into
today's
packet.
B
I
B
B
Motion
pass
wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
and
with
that
moving
on
to
Matters
from
staff
any
Matters
from
staff
this
evening,
thanks
so
much
Kevin.
We
appreciate
you
being
here
no.