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A
B
I'm
here
councillor
chavez
here.
A
You
have
a
quorum,
madam
chair.
Thank
you
so
much
on
to
approval
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
changes
from
staff?
A
A
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'd
like
to
pull
item
b
and
c.
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman
vader
real
did
you
have
some
same
for
me?
Thank
you
any
others
that
anyone
would
like
to
pull,
and
if
not,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve,
as
amended.
E
A
Chair
cassette,
yes,
motion
passes.
Thank
you
so
much
moving
on
to
item
five
approval
of
minutes,
and
I'm
not
seeing
any
minutes
here.
So
we
will
skip
that
for
today
and
then
at
our
next
meeting
we
will
have
to
approve
the
minutes
from
last
time.
So
moving
on
to
item
six
presentations,
the
first
one
that
we
have
is
the
alternative
response
unit
update
and
I
have
that
kira
ochoa
and
chief
moya,
chief
mercado
and
chief
joy
should
all
be
here
to
present
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
here
to
present
to
you
on
our
alternative
response
unit
project
which,
as
many
of
you
know,
we
started
going
live
with
in
may.
Although
it
was
many
many
years
in
the
making
in
some
ways,
it's
been
a
really
successful
collaboration
within
the
community
safety
department
between
community
services,
which
provides
funding
and
some
sort
of
just
a
little
bit
of
lighting
of
the
finance
behind
the
project
and
then
fire
department
and
the
mijo
team
and
the
police
department.
All
throughout
the
project.
F
We've
worked
very
closely
meeting
weekly
in
many
cases,
we're
less
in
need
of
that
now
to
tweak
the
project
to
make
sure
that
we're
delivering
the
best
on
service
to
the
community
in
the
best
way
as
you'll
hear
tonight.
This
is
not
a
model
that
we
plucked
from
us
impose
on
santa
fe.
It's
something
that
we
very
much
grew
from
the
needs
that
the
public
safety
folks
were
seeing
around
as
well
as
the
social
services
folks.
F
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
chief
paul
joy
from
chief
paul
joy
from
the
santa
fe
pd.
G
Hello,
everyone
paul
joy,
interim
chief
police,
just
a
quick
refresh
yeah
to
recap
on
director,
ochoa
and
and
tap
on
what
she
said
before
yeah.
This
has
been.
What
I
am
a
fan
of
with
this
program
is
that
this
started
with
conversations
that
we've
been
having
into
individually
for
several
years
now
and
back
in
2021
the
beginning
of
2021.
G
We
came
together
and
started
having
these
discussions
as
a
group,
and
we
didn't
take
someone
else's
program,
we
we
analyzed
and
looked
at
a
few
other
programs
that
were
operating
other
parts
of
the
country,
but
we
took
what
we
thought
was
best
from
those
programs
and
created
our
own
started
it
from
the
ground
up
and
it's
been
kind
of
evolving
to
where
we
see
the
issues
in
multitasking.
Here.
G
Sorry,
people
don't
leave
me
alone
so
as
we're
seeing
other
needs
we're
trying
to
make
we're
trying
to
adapt
the
program
to
include
those
needs,
we're
trying
to
integrate
thrive
into
aru
as
well.
I've
got
nothing
but
positive
things
to
say
with
regard
to
what
this
program
has
been
able
to
do
so
far.
On
the
police
department
side,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
and
from
from
the
community
and
internally
as
well
about
behavioral
health,
mental
health.
G
How
do
we
get
these
folks
into
services
that
don't
involve
law
enforcement
where
the
the
call
is
going
to
come
in
as
a
disorderly
conduct
or
the
call
is
going
to
come
in
as
a
welfare
check?
Those
are
police
department
calls,
but
the
police
department
is
not
necessarily
the
best
people
to
handle
those
calls,
but
it's
the
person
who's,
calling
it
in
it's
mental
health
and
behavioral
health
disguise
as
disorderly
conduct.
G
But
we
may
not
know
that
until
we
get
more
on
scene
or
the
people
who
are
reviewing
the
call
can
kind
of
parse
out
the
information
and
decide
make
a
determination
as
to
where
they
think
aru
is
the
best
fit
or
if
it's
the
police
department,
that's
the
best
fit
for
that
call,
but
yeah.
So
with
that
I'll
I'll,
pass
it
off
to
chief
moya
and
leave
you
guys
alone
for
a
minute.
H
Madame
chair
counselors,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
having
us
yeah
everything
that
director,
ochoa
and
chief
joy
said
is
correct.
This
program
is
working,
it
is
accomplishing
things.
We've
used
it
for
multiple
angles.
It
is
running
currently
right
now
for
code
blue.
So
it
is
running
till
10
o'clock
tonight
to
help
with
with
that
aspect
of
it.
So
it
it
is.
It's
working
chief
mercado's
done
a
great
job.
H
I
throw
him
curveballs
every
once
in
a
while
and
he's
able
to
hit
him
so
we're
we're
we're
accomplishing
things.
We've
got
a
case
manager
supervisor
we
just
hired.
We
hired
another
case
manager,
so
we're
almost
fully
staffed.
We're
still
short
two
case
managers,
but
the
unit
is
working
great
everybody
that
is
on
it
is
accomplishing
things.
H
We're
able
to
not
have
the
pd
unit
pd
officer
on
it
all
the
time
due
to
the
fact
of
the
training
that
they
were
able
to
get
so
we're
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction,
and
I
think
it's
just
a
continuously
a
growth
thing
and
not
moved
too
fast,
but
we're
moving
to
accomplish
and
try
to
get
air
u2
up
and
running
as
soon
as
possible.
So
I
think
that
it's
just
it's
a
greater
overall
aspect
with
that.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
chief
mercado.
I
Hi
good
evening,
everybody
I'm
gonna,
start
sharing
on
my
screen.
My
name
is
andres
mercado
and
I
am
a
battalion
chief
with
the
fire
department,
overseeing
case
management
and
and
response.
I
Okay,
so
thank
you
and
happy
2
22..
I
was
like
listening
to
the
conversation
about
harrison
road
last
night
and
I
I
don't
live
on
harrison,
but
I've
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
on
the
arroyos
and
encampments,
and
it's
it's.
You
know
that
that
issue
is
not
limited
to
beats,
not
limited
harrison.
It's
not
limited
to
the
2800
block
of
surreal's
road
or
the
city
or
the
county.
This
is
really
I
mean
beyond
the
southwest.
It's
it's
a
it's
a
huge
issue.
I
I
don't
live
on
harrison,
but
I've
seen
the
outward
symptoms
of
untreated
mental
illness
from
the
burn
scars
in
the
in
the
royals
and
the
trash
and
the
tents
that
pop
up
as
quickly
as
they
disappear.
I
It's
you
know
it's
it's
sad
to
see
people
treating
treated
suffering
from
untreated
mental
illness
and
and
the
the
amount
of
discomfort
that
they're
treating
with
these
pretty
toxic
cocktails
in
their
bloodstream-
and
I
I
understand
also
from
from
the
community
perspective,
the
house
community
members.
You
know
I've
had
my
house
broken
into
twice
here
a
couple
summers
ago.
I
had
a
bag
stalling
out
of
out
of
the
front
seat
of
my
car,
so
it's
a
super
complicated
issue
and
it's
definitely
not
limited
to
pete's
or
harrison
road.
I
So
just
to
get
us
started,
I
wanted
to
share
a
text
that
we
something
that
text
that
message
that
we
got
this
morning.
So
we
started
running
into
this
young
man,
we'll
call
him
robbie
a
few
weeks
ago.
Maybe
a
month
ago,
now
pretty
quiet
kept
to
himself
would
always
say.
Thank
you.
God
bless
you
generally
decline,
help
sleeping
bags
on
cold
nights,
etc,
and
the
aru
was
on
a
call
recently
and
they
actually
ran
into
his
mom
was
trying
to
bring
him
food
and
tennis,
shoes
and
stuff.
I
I
Over
time
he
became
non-verbal.
He
had
holes
in
his
shoes,
even
though
he
had
brand
new
shoes
sitting
right
next
to
him.
He
would
cover
himself
in
a
blanket,
even
though
he
had
a
sleeping
bag
right
next
to
him.
So
very
sad
and
I
think
part
of
the
sadness
there
is
the
contrast
of
having
those
brand
new
shoes
right
next
to
him
and
and
not
having
the
wherewithal
to
put
them
on,
and
that's
sort
of
what
makes
this
case
obvious
and
sad.
I
But
a
lot
of
these
folks
that
are
that
are
out
there
on
the
street.
They
don't
have
new
shoes
to
sort
of
put
them,
in
contrast
with
anything
or
a
mom,
that's
looking
out
after
them
and
there's
an
email
that
we
got
shortly
after
william
brunson
and
one
of
our
case
managers
and
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
know
who
it
was,
but
I
know
it
was
willing
because
of
the
letter,
just
our
family
is
so
grateful
to
you
and
your
kind
assistance,
and
just
it
was
very
touching
to
to
read
this
email.
I
We
kept
on
working
with
this
individual
after
mom
was
just
thankful
to
have
met
us
and
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we
got
the
texas
on
the
right-hand
side
this
morning.
I
wish
I
could
have
just
done
a
screenshot
of
the
of
the
phone,
but
I'm
not
tech
savvy
enough,
so
this
is
just
sort
of
you
know.
This
is
a
very
sad
story.
This
gentleman
was
just
out
on
the
street
unmedicated.
I
We
hope
that
he's
on
a
good
path,
but
those
folks
that
don't
have
that
contrast,
don't
don't
have
that
mom.
There's,
there's
a
lot
of
them
out
there
in
the
community.
Their
stories
may
not
be
as
close
much
as
the
at
the
heartstrings,
but
it's
the
same
same
really:
underlying
issues
untreated
untreated
mental
illness.
So
the
purpose
of
the
alternative
response
unit
was
really
to
help
residents
and
visitors
get
get
get
their
help.
I
The
help
that's
appropriate
while
at
the
same
time
alleviating
the
workforce,
the
world
load
on
on
our
police
officers.
So
a
little
history
was
established
in
2015
there
was
a
resolution.
Mayor
coss
was
involved
on
his
way
out
near
gonzalez,
councilor,
duvetta,
boucher
and
dimas,
and
all
the
counselors
that
were
around
back
then,
and
they
essentially
asked
the
fire
department
to
explore
the
opportunities
that
existed
at
the
overlap
of
healthcare,
public
health
and
public
safety.
I
We
looked
at
some
data
and
you
know
sort
of
the
the
hot
spotting
pattern
became
very
obvious
and
it
only
reinforced
what
I
had
seen
in
the
my
last
15
years
or
so
on.
Ambulances
here
in
santa
fe,
and
so
the
the
goal
was
to
move
from
an
episodic
care
to
longitudinal
care
so
essentially
connecting
the
dots
trying
to
make
a
story.
Faith
applewhite,
one
of
our
ems
captains,
says
that
you
know
back
when
she
was
on
the
ambulance.
I
She
would
think
how
does
this
call
fit
into
my
life
into
my
shift
and
that
sort
of
the
the
paradigm
shift
is
now
thinking?
How
do
we
fit
into
this
person's
life
over
time?
So
a
move
from
reactive
to
proactive
from
sort
of
trans
transactional
to
transformational.
I
Those
are
the
words
of
mayor
gonzalez
is
sort
of
what
the
vision
he
had
and
then
it's
it's
embedded
in
everything
because
because
of
this
longitudinal
nature,
so
we're
working
with
merchants
we're
working
with
providers
we're
working
with
family
members,
we're
working
with
the
individuals
we're
working
with
the
police,
the
fire
department
and
also
we're
essentially
just
tr
yeah.
I
It's
a
completely
embedded
intervention
that
really
allows
us
to
be
in
contact
with
all
these
different
touch
points
in
the
community,
so
we
started
work
in
the
in
our
in
case
management,
essentially
when
we
were
just
a
staff
of
myself
and
drama
society
and
some
folks
on
overtime,
and
it
was
really
outreach
before
or
after
911
calls
we
weren't
running
any
911
calls
the
aru
is
sort
of
the
first
step
of
taking
this
longitudinal
point
of
view
to
to
and
really
operationalizing
into
the
911
system.
I
So
we're
we're
actually
talk
a
little
bit
at
the
end
about
new
software,
we're
going
to
and
we're
hoping
to
not
to
bring
that
longitudinal
view
to
the
providers
who
are
actually
on
scene.
So
the
operations
it's
one
unit,
currently
40
hours
a
week
monday
to
friday,
8
a.m,
to
6
p.m.
On
holidays,
it's
voluntary
overtime
code,
blue,
is
voluntary
overtime,
as
chief
moya
mentioned,
they're
on
the
streets
tonight
until
10
o'clock
at
night,
and
also
tomorrow,
night
until
10
o'clock
at
night.
I
The
vehicle
that
they're
in
is
just
a
marked
vehicle.
This
was
chief
joy's,
old
vehicle
and,
and
we
have
chief
martinez's
old
vehicle-
is
the
second
unit,
but
it's
a
marked
vehicle
with
with
police
and
fire
radios
on
it.
We
have
a
paramedic
and
a
case
manager
and
they
have
two
case
managers
sort
of
a
bad.
So
for
each
unit
we
have
one.
We
have
three
case
managers,
one
who's
on
the
unit
and
two
who
are
picking
up.
I
It's
a
referral
generator
so
they're,
picking
up
a
lot
of
the
referrals
and
those
three
case,
managers
rotate
through.
So
all
the
case,
managers
are
sort
of
cross-trained,
they
have
a
case
loaded
and
then
also
interact
with
folks
on
on
on
a
more
response
oriented
basis.
We
have
a
total
of
12
ftes
and
just
to
put
it
in
perspective,
that's
less
than
one
fully
staffed
fire
engine
and
the
and
really
that
it
is.
I
The
team
is
so
dependent
on
that
case
management
team,
those
two
people
that
are
not
on
the
unit
that
are
then
working
to
sort
of
provide
the
follow-up
outreach.
That
is
that
is
so
desperately
needed
with
some
of
these
folks.
This
is
an
overview
of
the
training,
so
general
operations
crisis,
intervention,
training,
24
hours-
am
I
suicide
prevention,
trauma-informed
care
human
trafficking?
Sorry,
I'm
reading
this
to
you,
but
just
to
get
through
it
quickly.
I
know
we
have
a
shortage
of
time.
Nami
does
an
amazing
job.
I
They
brought
in
daniel
hershey,
who
has
some
pretty
impressive
experiences
that
he's
very
open
with
sharing
a
lot
of
on-the-job
training
and
then
we're
hoping
to
partner
to
get
to
add
some
more
things
to
our
core
training,
including
transgender
cultural,
fluency
and
dementia
care.
We
definitely
recognize
the
the
vulnerability
just
jump
when
you
have
when
you're
working
with
folks
that
are
from
the
transgender
community,
so
to
get
into
a
little
bit
of
the
data
just
the
numbers.
So
we
started
on
cinco
de
mayo.
I
I
We
realized
that
that
having
a
police
officer
as
an
independent
resource
integrated
with
both
patrol
and
the
aru
made
more
sense,
both
from
a
clinical
perspective,
to
take
care
of
folks
and
make
sure
that
folks
weren't
triggered
and
operational
perspective
for
police,
and
we
also
determined
that
the
the
safety,
the
way
that
the
team
was
triaging
calls
for
safety
was
was
very
appropriate
and
all
parties
felt
like
it
was
a
good
move.
I
The
nature
of
calls
so
disorderlies
and
welfare
checks
make
the
the
bulk
majority.
Those
are
pretty
big
buckets
that
carry
all
sorts
of
undefined
things.
I
The
dispatch
complaint
is
at
least
from
my
experience
in
the
fire
department
about
70
of
the
time
it's
accurate
and
within
being
accurate,
there's
a
lot
of
variability,
so
so
there's
there's
really
quite
a
bit
of
variability
in
those
calls,
but
mental
illness
sort
of
strange
behavior
checking
on
someone
who
hasn't
been
heard
from
in
a
few
days,
people
spinning
bicycle
tires
near
the
street
and
all
sorts
of
things
we
screen.
Those
calls
pretty
carefully,
and
I
can
speak
about
that
later.
I
If
anyone
is
interested,
the
source
of
these
calls
so
primarily
they're
coming
from
the
police
console
so
at
the
dispatch
center
they
take
the
calls
they
triage
them
and
they
decide
police
fire
or
both.
So
the
black
is
police,
only
the
blue
is
police
and
fire.
The
green
is
proactive
encounters
when
they're,
interacting
with
run
into
folks.
They
see
or
sort
of
have
a
an
opportunity.
I
We
try
to
not
focus
too
much
on
that,
because
there's
so
much
on
the
queue,
but
there
are
times
when
it
is
appropriate
to
stop
and
talk
with
somebody.
The
dark
blue
there
is
from
the
fire
department
apartment
console
only
and
a
lot
of
those
is
just
because
we've
been
sort
of
closed
since
we're
out
on
the
street
already
or
we've
been
maybe
requested
by
an
on-scene
unit
services
provided
a
lot
of
referrals
out.
I
A
lot
of
those
are
internal
referrals,
like
I
said,
there's
sort
of
a
referral
generator,
the
one
and
done
approach
is
sort
of
the
opposite
of
what
we'd
like
to
do.
So
I
don't
know
if
how
good
the
graphics
are
there,
and
if
you
can
read
that,
but
meal
and
beverage
is
the
second
one
alternate
transport
destination
is
the
third
opiate
overdose
and
education
is
the
third,
the
fourth
etc.
I
It
has
been
very
appropriate,
sometimes
we're
just
first
on
scene,
on
a
call
that
turns
out
to
be
a
medical
call,
so
med
normal
means.
We
requested
an
ambulance,
normal
traffic,
no
likes
and
sirens
pd
normal
means.
We
requested
a
police
officer,
same
thing,
normal
lights
and
sirens,
and
sometimes
there's
just
sort
of
unresolved
things
that
we're
not
really
clear
on
the
legality
of
it.
I
If
someone's
called
truant
from
school
and
sort
of
who
do,
we
need
to
make
contact
with
so
sometimes
we
we
allow
where
we
request
that
law
enforcement
proceed.
Two
ambulances
emergency
traffic,
one
of
them
was
the
crew,
was
first
on
scene
for
a
person
who
everyone
thought
was
passed
out.
Who
was
in
cardiac
arrest
and
they
started.
I
Cpr
dropped
an
airway
and
started
care
called
an
ambulance,
got
him
transported
to
the
hospital,
and
he
had,
I
believe
he's
I
mean
he
had
pulses
when
he
got
to
the
hospital
and
he
was
transferred
over
to
a
rehabilitation
center.
I
So
I'm
not
sure
what
his
current
status
is,
and
also
first
on
scene,
to
a
major
drama
at
cereals
in
saint
francis,
a
big
motorcycle
accident,
but
the
the
point
of
that
is
that
we're
not
just
showing
up
on
scene
first
and
then
asking
for
a
bunch
of
people
who
come
help
we're
able
to
handle
a
lot
of
that
stuff,
the
impact
on
pd.
So
we
started
tracking
this
in
november.
So
this
is
not
comprehensive
of
the
entire
six
months
or
so
of
this
data.
I
I
But
so
the
majority
of
calls
were
clearing
without
a
police
officer
response
the
pd
response,
unchanged:
oftentimes,
that's
because
we're
corresponding
with
them
or
they
they're
already
on
scene
and
they've,
requested
us
it's
something
that
we
maybe
didn't
triage
in
or
for
whatever
reason
we
we
didn't
have
a
call.
We
were
on
another
call
and
were
then
later
requested,
so
obviously
didn't
change
their
response
and
then
the
smaller
blue
one
is
police
department
officers
put
back
in
service
by
the
area
the
impact
on
the
fire
department.
I
I
got
this
from
one
of
our
battalion
chiefs,
scott
outer
kirk.
He
said
that
the
impact
on
the
volume
is
hard
to
capture
because
it's
we're
responding
oftentimes
when
the
call
is
still
on
the
police
screen.
So
there
are
many
calls
that
that
the
fire
department
in
general
responds
to
where
police
goes.
First,
they
identify
a
medical
issue
and
then
call
for
for
medics.
I
So
so
it's
hard
to
understand
really
the
the
impact
there
that
it's
a
very
helpful
resource
to
request,
but
that
it
is
limited
by
availability
and
and
that
a
bigger
impact
will
be
filled
with
more
units
and
that
something
that
I
was
sort
of
pleased
to
hear
is
that
it's
a
morale
booster
to
just
hear
someone
else
helping
out
with
the
with
some
of
these
calls,
especially
when
they're
challenging-
and
you
know
we
may
not
have
the
the
right
tools
in
the
toolbox
for
for
managing
the
situation.
I
So,
in
conclusion,
I
hope
I'm
under
the
10
minutes,
it's
really
a
new
type
of
first
responder
and-
and
I
want
to
stress
that
the
the
the
safety
risk
has
that
that's
always
brought
up
is
not
it's
not
zero.
It's
the
first.
Even
on
an
ambulance.
I
brushed
up
on
people
that
were
armed
without
police
there.
It
is
that's
the
environment
that
you're
operating
in
the
the
training
required
for
that
the
schedule,
the
benefits,
etc.
I
It
really
is
something
I
think
something
that
for
scalability
and
for
recruitment
and
retention.
We
would
be
foolish
to
to
not
really
factor
in
that
full
full
package
of
what
what
work.
We're
asking
these
folks
to
do:
schizophrenia,
bed
bugs
pepsi,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
being
out
there
on
these
super
cold
nights.
It's
a
they're,
a
new
type
of
first
responder,
and
not
just
social
workers
running
around
helping
people,
even
though
they
do
that.
Also
the
goal
is
the
triple
aim,
so
improving
outcomes,
improving
customer
and
employee
satisfaction.
I
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
vocational
frustration
both
on
the
law
enforcement
side
and
on
the
ems
side,
for
having
nothing
but
a
sledgehammer,
and
an
overall
reduced
system
cost
so
really
sort
of
trying
to
tailor
taylor
things
and
be
be
fiscally
responsible
about
how
we're
how
we're
meeting
the
demand
next
steps,
we're
hoping
to
get
an
aru2
up
and
running
and
and
we're
about
to
roll
out
of
integrated
emergency
medicine,
integrated
health
and
fire
software,
which
I
hope
will
be
super
awesome
and
will
allow
us
to
really
focus
on
community
risk
reduction,
identify
patterns
and
and
interject
in
in
positive
ways,
and
I
wanna
just
close
out
by
giving
a
big
thank
you
to
the
staff,
the
promos
and
faith
nicole
victoria
matt,
sonia
ray
and
felina,
and
now
adam
that
you
know
they're,
really
the
ones
that
are
able
to
make
this
happen
and
wanna.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
chief
mercado.
I
really
appreciate
the
presentation.
I
am
sure
that
there
will
be
a
request
for
you
to
share
that
presentation
with
the
members
of
the
committee.
So
if
you
could
send
that
out,
we
would
much
appreciate
it
and
do
any
members
of
the
committee
have
any
questions
at
this
time.
J
I
Do
you
want
to
respond
to
that.
H
Madam
chair
counselor
travis
we're
trying.
We
had
some
hiccups
with
hiring
two
more
case
managers,
so
I
need
the
support
staff
in
the
office
before
I
put
our
u2
up
in
the
street.
It's
just
because
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
have
air
u1
running
and
if
somebody
calls
in
sick
or
is
on
annual
leave,
I
need
to
have
the
ability
to
have
the
support
in
the
office
and
on
on
the
unit,
so
we
were
shooting
for
april
until
we
were
unable
to
hire
two
case
managers.
H
So
right
now,
I'm
re-advertising
this
week
for
two
more
case
managers
and
once
we
get
them
up
and
hired
and
enrolled
and
up
to
speed,
we
will
I
I
don't
want
to
give
a
timeline,
because
every
time
I
do
I
get
bit
with
that.
So
my
goal
is
as
soon
as
possible
as
soon
as
we
can
prioritize
it
and
do
it
safely.
That's
my
key
point.
H
Is
safety
first
and
make
sure
that
they're
appropriately
put
on
the
unit
and
correct
so
we
we're
close
and-
and
we
will
we'll
get
there
soon.
J
Thank
you,
chief
moya,
yeah.
I
think
it's
hard
to
put
a
timeline
when
it's
dependent
on
hiring,
so
that
was,
you
know,
going
to
be
my
second
question,
so
thank
you
for
your
work.
It's
amazing.
I
think
that
aru
is
helping
us
resolve
some
really
important
issues
with
like
along
with,
so
that
we're
not
having
to
revisit
them
again
right
we're
giving
the
help
that's
needed
for
long-term
recovery.
So
thank
you
for
your
commitment
and
work
to
that.
I
really
appreciate
it.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman,
vitarielle,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
hope
you
can
hear
me
you
all,
because
I'm
having
technical
problems
all
day
long.
Thank
you
for
the
excellent
presentation
I
wish
you
would
have
presented
this
one
at
the
task
force.
I
think
the
visuals
were
very
helpful.
D
So
if
you
send
that
to
me,
I
can
send
it
on
to
the
members.
I
think
this
was
like
visually.
It
was
helpful
to
kind
of
see,
understand
the
background
and
then
kind
of
what
you're
up
against
and
what's
working,
and
I
guess
I
was
still.
D
I
was
still
on
that
mindset
of
the
we
we
did
budget
for
three
arus
last
year
and
for
whatever
reason,
we're
still
at
one
and
now
I'm
understanding
more
about
the
hr
challenges
we're
having,
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
resolve
those,
because
we
have
qualified
people
that
are
ready
to
go
and
they're
not
being
hired.
D
So
director
troy
we
did
have
we
did
budget
for
three
and
I'm
not
blaming
anybody,
but
but
we
do
have
funding
for
that
correct
in
and
into
the
next
budget
year.
We'll
have
that
or.
F
Madam
madam
chair,
councilwoman,
bial
I'd
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
question.
We
what
we
did
was
move
some
money
from
the
community
services
department
into
the
fire
department
budget
at
the
time
that
we
were
ready
to
launch.
So
I
have
to
investigate
the
history
of
that.
It
happened.
I
think,
before
my
time
in
the
sense
of
you
know
before
we
started
launching
so
I'll
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that
question.
Unless
chief
moya,
you
have
additional
information
at
this
time.
H
Madam
chair
counselor
viral-
I
I
will
be
completely
honest.
I've
done
the
budget
for
two
years
and
we've
we
we're
up
at
two,
so
we
have
not
been
able
to
get
three
yet
me
and
anders
have
talked,
and
we
have
it's
a
lot
to
get
three
we're
maxed
out
with
adam
lord
already,
so
we
hired
case
manager,
supervisor
and
adam
lord
is
almost
at
capacity
with
his
supervision.
H
So
we're
just
we're
it's
a
lot
of
moving
parts,
we're
trying
to
accomplish
a
lot
at
a
very
fast
pace
and
we're
we're
trying
to
assist
pd
and
fire
with
trying
to
get.
You
know
some
of
these
calls
and
long-term
care.
But
right
now
I
have
officially
budgeted
for
two
this
fiscal
year
and
then,
madam.
F
Chair
sorry,
councilman
viral.
I
think
what
chief
moya
is
saying.
What
chief
mercado
illustrated
may
may
be
the
answer
to
your
question,
but
again
I'll
verify
the
the
paper
trail
on
all
of
that.
It's
the
deep
back
bench
that
we
have
in
the
case
management
in
order
to
run
the
unit
right.
It's
not
just
the
case
manager
who's
in
the
vehicle
on
the
scene.
It's
the
two
that
are
back
helping
case
manage
these
long-term
tough
issues
and
the
model
evolve
has
evolved
a
little
and
and
changed
a
little
as
well.
I
Yeah,
so
I
I
have
not
touched
the
budget,
so
I
can't
speak
to
what's
contained
in
it
or
not
in
it,
but
I
do
know
that
operationally
what
chief
moya
said
is
accurate.
If
we
were
to
if
we
were
to
have
the
case
managers
to
run
aru2
right
now
in
order
to
jump
to
aru3,
we
would
need
additional
support.
For
example,
our
training
division
is
taxed,
so
they're
not
trained.
The
training
division
is
not
providing
training
for
this.
This
is
all
done
in-house.
I
So
there's
some
growth
that
would
need
a
company,
that's
not
just
the
front
line
providers
so
so
I
know
that
aru3
will
not
be
as
easy
as
one
additional
ems
captain
and
three
more
case
managers.
It'll
it'll,
probably
likely
be.
You
know,
we'll
just
have
to
figure
out
the
right
scaling
the
right
way
to
scale
that
in
a
way
that
it's
healthy
and
it's
not
going
to
be
just
providers.
D
Thank
you
for
that
clarity.
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
more
a
capacity,
not
necessarily
limited
budget
or
funding
to
do
what
you
need
to
do
is
that
what
I'm
hearing.
H
Madam
chair
counselor
viral-
I
will
be
completely
honest.
It
is
one
department
in
the
big
picture,
so
I
am
not
only
worrying
about
air
ems
and
mijo.
I
have
to
worry
about
the
structural
side.
I
have
to
worry
about
the
ms
side.
I
have
to
worry
about
the
training
side,
so
we
also
have
to
build
from
the
base.
So
I
I
that
is
something
I'm
going
to
have
to
push
in
this
budget
cycle
is,
I
have
to
build
from
the
bottom
up
and
we
have
to
stop.
H
You
know
get
more
paramedics
into
the
group
and
I
can't
keep
taking
from
the
field
paramedics
to
go
to
undressed
units,
because
I
don't
have
the
field
units
to
back
up.
So
it's
a
lot
of
building
from
the
base
making
sure
that
we're
stalling
at
the
bottom
and
then
working
our
way
up
throughout
the
department
as
a
whole.
H
We
talk
so
great
about
ems
and
mijo
and
air
units,
but
I
have
a
whole
other
department
that
I
also
have
to
keep
functioning
and
running
that
we
that
sometimes
we
miss
and
that's
something
that
I
have
to
mine
it
just
the
fire
chief
is.
I
have
wildland
division
and
I
have
all
other
kinds
of
divisions,
and
it's
not
just
one
division,
I'm
worried
about.
I
have
to
worry
about
the
whole
department
as
a
whole
and
keep
running
those
911
calls
24
7..
D
I
hear
you
chief
moya.
I
understand
that
I'm
just
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
support
you
all
in
the
way,
that's
most
helpful
and
if
you
all,
are
expecting
or
wanting
to
have
budget
requests
in
this
next
fiscal
year,
I'm
definitely
in
support
of
it
for
the
aru
unit.
So
that's
what
I'm
getting
at
just
to.
Let
us
know
if
there's
a
way
or
what
we
can
do
to
support
that.
D
If
you
and
and
actually
the
question,
I
guess
for
director
of
choice,
is,
are
you
all
expecting
to
ask
for
more
funding
for
in
this
budget
cycle.
F
F
That's
evolved
in
real
time
and
obviously
chief
mercato's
and
captain
champlin
and
the
police
department
side
have
been
doing
really
great
job
of
collecting
data,
but
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
really
thorough
evaluation
before
we
grow
so
that
when
we
grow,
which
we
will
we
have
to
it's
working,
it's
great.
You
know
everybody
sort
of
sees
that
it
agrees
that,
on
that,
we
we
do
grow
sort
of
in
the
best
way,
and
so
I
think,
evaluation
on
shoring
up
the
fire
department's
administrative
capacity,
shoring
up
the
paramedic.
F
The
stress
on
the
paramedics
in
the
fire
department
is
very
real,
especially
in
the
last
two
years
during
covid,
but
you
know
making
sure
that
that
the
paramedics
in
the
fire
department
are
well
taken
care
of
that
we
can
bring
on
new
people
that
we
can
retain
people
you
know
aru
is,
is
a
special
unit
of
the
fire
department,
but
it's
also
deeply
connected
with
every
element
of
the
fire
department
and
so
for
the
and
for
the
aru
to
grow.
That
base,
as
chief
wayne
says,
really
needs
to
be
healthy
and
strong.
F
So
I
hope
I'm
not
I'm
not
trying
to
be
vague,
but
I
think
what
we're
doing
right
now
is
saying:
okay,
what
would
it
take
to
get
a
third
unit,
a
fourth
unit
and
again,
to
make
sure
that
it's
structured
properly?
You
know
there
are
a
lot
of
other
models
too
around
the
country
of
how
these
things
are
going.
We
found
that
we
didn't
need
a
police
officer
on
the
on
the
unit,
which
is
the
model
we
started
with.
Is
there
a
world
in
which
sometimes
we
might
not
need
a
paramedic?
F
Some
communities
are
doing
that.
So
we
need
to
have
an
evaluation
that
really
looks
at
our
options,
what
the
strengths
are
and
and
not
just
sort
of
replicate
what
we've
got
now
because,
as
as
the
chiefs
have
said,
it's
the
scaling
up
is
complex.
D
A
Thank
you
councilwoman
councillor,
lee
garcia,.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
would
first
off
just
like
to
say
you
know
kudos
to
everybody
this
program.
I
I
it's
difficult
because
you
hear
people
in
the
community
and
they
call
in
and
it's
like
man
there's
so
much
going
on
in
our
city,
from
crime
to
the
homeless
and
and
there's
just
so
many
issues
involved.
K
I
I
don't
know,
but
when
there's
so
many
moving
parts
to
to
this,
when
the
call
comes
in
I'll
just
make
an
example,
there
was
a
an
email
that
came
through
in
january
where
a
person
was
saying
it
took
166
minutes
for
a
response
to
my
situation,
and
I
think
we
might
have
all
heard
about
that
or
read
the
email
and
and
so
with
all
the
different
moving
parts
that
are
involved
with
this,
and
I
know
it's
a
work
in
progress,
and
so
you
know
my
hope
and
and
and
is
that
the
program
evolves
to
the
point
where
it
runs
really
efficiently
and
it
can
get
to
these
people
that
that
are
in
in
fear
or
whatever's
happening
in
their
situation.
K
I
don't
know
what
was
happening
at
the
same
time
in
the
city
when
this
call
came
in,
and
so
we
have
to
take
that
into
consideration
as
well,
but
with
the
different
departments
and
the
moving
parts.
You
know
how
what's
going
to
be
done
to
improve
that
response
time
when,
when
there
is
in
emergencies
and
obviously
how
do
we
qualify?
That.
F
Madam
chair
counselor
garcia,
thank
you
for
that
question,
I'll,
take
a
stab
at
it
and
then
maybe
chiefs,
joy
and
moya
can
give
their
perspective
a
good
response.
Time,
as,
as
many
know,
I
think
need
to
know
starts
with
our
911
call
center
right.
So
the
calls
that
come
in
there
they
are
triaged
and
dispatched
out
of
that
center.
That's
a
county
run
center.
We
are
a
partner
in
that
and
we
often
support
that
center.
F
In
every
way
we
can
with
light
duty
staff
and
things
like
that
they
are,
they
have
struggled
to
keep
their
staffing
up,
and
so
sometimes
the
response
time
is
not
on
the
on
the
city's
end.
Sometimes
it's
on
the
wreck
end,
and
I
can't
speak
to
that
specific
call,
but
that's
just
something
for
the
public
to
keep
in
mind.
I
think
that
that
a
good
response
time
requires
that
first
call
to
be
triaged
effectively.
F
After
that,
your
question
is
really
relevant
with
the
aru,
in
that
what
we
are
finding
is
that,
of
course,
with
one
unit
out
there,
one
team
out
there,
it's
really
a
drop
in
the
bucket,
but
when
you
look
at
the
overall
call
volume
of
pd,
for
example,
which
has
so
much
you
know,
response
time,
tied
up
with
disorderly
conduct
calls,
for
example,
one
of
the
largest
categories,
as
calls
if
we
could
get
to
a
place
where
we
have
more
units
and
they're
going
out
safely
to
deal
with
these
calls
and
provide
an
appropriate
spot
response
to
people
having
mental
health
and
substance
use
crises
in
the
field
that
are
non-violent,
then
we
do.
F
We
would
anticipate
that
we
would
see
that
pd
has
you
know
more
capacity
to
respond
quickly
to
other
types
of
calls,
but
I
would
stand
behind
our
call
response
time
in
santa
fe.
I
think
it's
overall,
very
strong
and
good
and
I'll
pass
it
over
to
interim
chief
paul
joy
to
take
the
rest
of
that
question.
G
Hi
there,
madam
chair
counselor,
garcia
sure
yeah
to
echo
off
of
what
director
cho
has
already
said.
Yeah
so
and
I'm
gonna
ramble
a
little
bit,
but,
regardless
of
if
you
call
9-1-1
or
you
call
the
non-emergency
number,
that
that
call
gets
triaged
and
prioritized
by
dispatch
first
and
so,
and
that's
where
I
think
having
to
do
a
little
bit
education
with
some
folks
out
in
the
community
as
well,
where
they
think
automatically.
Well,
I
called
9-1-1.
G
You
guys
didn't
get
here
well
sure,
but
the
you
probably
bet
it's
on.
The
call
that
you
called
in
it
probably
should
have
been
sent
to
not
emergency
first
to
also
be
triaged,
and
when
people
call
9-1-1,
when
they
shouldn't
call
9-1-1.
G
That
ties
up
the
line
for
people
who
are
having
a
legitimate
emergency
that
they
need
assistance
with.
So,
regarding
the
call
that
you're
referencing,
we
are
doing
our
own
internal
review
and
inquiry
as
to
kind
of
what
happened
and
whether
or
not
kind
of
where,
where
things
went
wrong
on
that
call,
but
again
to
to
reiterate
what
director
choi
said,
and
this
isn't
in
any
way
to
speak,
ill
or
or
anything
on
their
rcc.
G
They
they
they're
doing
a
very
difficult
job
and
they're
short
staffed,
like
we
all,
are
and
and
they're
all
they're
they're
great
people
over
there,
but
yeah
they.
We
rely
on
them
to
be
that
first,
qualifier
of
the
call
bouncing
around
again
a
little
bit
with
disorderly
conducts
disorder
conduct
is
a
very
broad,
generalized
term
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
type
of
call
types
and
things
that
can
happen.
G
That
will
be
categorized
as
disorderly
conduct,
and
so
this
is
partially
why,
on
the
pd
side,
when
we
put
the
policy
together
for
this,
the
initial
discussion
was
okay.
Well,
we're
only
going
to
have
the
again
our
pd
policy
we're
going
to
have
air.
U
respond
to
behavioral
health
calls.
Well,
if
that's
all,
we
had
it
categorized
as
the
numbers
would
be
very
limited,
because
the
people
who
are
calling
it
in
don't
necessarily
recognize
it
as
a
behavioral
health
call,
and
so
that
was
why
we
wanted
to
categorize.
G
These
calls,
as
disorderly
conduct
calls
as
well
for
check
calls
and
a
few
others
and
just
to
kind
of
bounce
around
with
the
numbers.
So
I
I
did
a
quick
pull
today
of
our
database
for
2021.
We
have
94
213
calls
for
service
of
those
94
213,
roughly
10
410
were
disorderly,
conducts
and
7028
were
welfare
checks,
and
so
this
unit
wouldn't
respond
to
all
of
those
calls.
But
what
this
unit
has
the
ability
to
do
which,
like
on
the
pd
side,
they
don't
have.
G
That
option
is
to
read
through
the
narrative,
ask
more
information
and
make
that
independent
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
the
call
that
they're
seeing
fits
what
they
can
do,
and
they
also
have
the
determination
and
the
ultimate
say
so
to
say
we'll
go
to
that.
But
we
want
to
make
sure
pd
responds
to
that.
First
to
clear
it
make
an
initial
determination
and
let
us
know
that
it's
it's
safe
for
us
to
make
an
approach.
G
I
don't
know
if
I
answered
all
your
questions.
I
hope.
K
Yeah,
yeah
and
and
again
I
do
understand
how
this
is-
is
a
work
in
progress
and
it
does
take
a
lot
of
moving
parts
to
to
make
it
successful
and
I
think
that's
the
challenge.
I
want
to
reiterate
the
comments
by
councillor
villavial
in
any
way,
you
guys
need
you
know.
K
Whatever
help
we
can,
we
can
give
to
to
continue
with
this
project
and
make
it
a
successful
project,
and
I
I
again
once
again
thank
you
guys
for
all
your
dedication
and
time
and
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
yield
the
floor.
Thank
you.
A
I
do
have
a
couple
questions
myself.
First
of
all,
I
just
I
really
want
to
thank
the
entire
team
for
launching
into
this.
I
know
that
this
was
a
bit
of
a
a
brave
new
world
that
you
all
stepped
into
very
well
thought
out,
as
as
I
frequently
hear
in
public
health,
you
you
don't
want
to
guess,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
make
a
very,
very,
very
educated
guess,
and
you
guys
made
a
guess.
A
very
educated
guess
well
thought
out
well
planned
and
I
really
appreciate
it.
A
I
had
a
couple
questions
about
the
schedule
monday
through
friday.
Eight
to
six
is
the
standard
schedule
when
you
are
bringing
on
another
unit.
Are
you
planning
on
basically
rep
or
increasing
the
number
of
units
available?
At
those
times?
Are
you
starting
to
look
at
expanding
those
hours.
I
Counselor
council
members
of
the
committee,
the
I
think,
director
ochoa
sort
of
mentioned
this.
These
are
some
of
the
challenges
scaling
up
having
those
having
those
discussions,
and
she
also
mentioned
that
our
chief
joy
mentioned,
maybe
that
it's
a
drop
in
the
bucket,
so
the
belly
of
welfare
checks
and
disorderlies
during
the
peak
during
those
those
hours
of
the
day
is
enormous.
So
it's
not
like.
We
really
need
to
stretch
very
far.
I
We
could
keep
on
doing
volume
reduction
during
those
peak
hours
and
the
added
bonus
that
that
is
that
the
infrastructure
that
we
do
have
is
available
during
that
time.
The
resources
that
we
are
transporting
to
are
open
at
that
time.
So
there
is
so
some
system
building
capacity
questions
around
increasing
hours,
particularly
with
lasalle,
the
crisis
triage
center
on
galisteo,
the
mobile
credits,
response
team
and,
and
then
our
own
internal
behavioral
health
direction,
nicole
alt
and
contractor,
and
just
supervision
general
supervision.
I
So
it
makes
sense
at
this
point
to
concentrate
our
efforts
during
a
specific
time
of
the
day
and
if
we
felt
like
there
weren't
enough
calls
to
add
in
the
second
unit
during
nor
sort
of
eight
to
eight
to
six
pm.
We'd
probably
modify
that,
but
at
this
time
we'd
just
have
80
hours
instead
of
40
hours
of
availability
during
during
that
time
frame.
F
F
You
know
that
it's
one
thing
to
find
folks
in
the
field
at
any
given
time
of
day
it's
another
to
be
able
to
transport
them
to
a
place
that
will
get
them
what
they
need,
and
so,
even
if
we
could
wave
our
magic
wand
and
staff,
all
public
safety,
24
7
shifts
with
an
air
with
a
adequate
air
units
to
respond
to
the
need.
We
would
not
have
the
community
resources.
F
We
might
request
funds
to
help
shore
up
other
parts
of
the
system
so
that
our
aru
teams
could
have
places
and
services
to
dispose
people
to
permanent
supportive
housing
other
places
where
people
can
go
and
we're.
Looking
at
all
of
those
elements,
right
now.
I
Counselor
cassette
and
members
of
the
committee
really
briefly
the
it
may
not
be
financially
or
logistically
feasible
to
have
aru
units
24,
7,
365,
multiple
units,
so
I
think
in
order
to
really
scale
up
the
services.
So
even
when
we
don't
the
area
doesn't
have
a
good
place
to
take
someone
or
someone's
denying
services.
I
Part
of
it
is
just
harm
reduction
on
our
response,
so
the
people
that
show
up
being
trauma-informed
being
aware
of
resources,
understanding
mental
illness.
So
I
think
that's
there's
a
training,
there's
some
training
opportunities
for
all
of
our
public.
You
know,
I
remember
during
budget
talk
some
time
back.
Chief
padilla
was
being
asked
about
community
policing
efforts,
and
I
thought
you
know.
Chief
joy
just
mentioned
94
000
incidents.
Last
year,
that's
94
000
opportunities
to
do
community
policing.
We
run
17
000
calls
on
the
fire
department.
I
So
together
it's
about
116,
000
opportunities
to
do
community
ems
community
policing.
So
even
though
aru's
will
be
slower
to
to
evolve,
there
are
some
training
opportunities
that,
I
think
would
be.
You
know
would
be
wise
to
to
explore.
A
Thank
you
thank
you
for
that,
and
thank
you
both
for
speaking
to
the
complexity
of
the
issue
and
and
how
it
interacts
with
some
of
these
other
quality
of
life
issues
that
we
spend
a
lot
of
time
discussing
both
in
this
committee
and
at
the
governing
body.
A
A
My
second
question,
given
that
answer
it's
I
understand
that
it
might
not
be
clear
either,
but
I
know
that
we
are
either
starting.
We
funded
a
workforce
police
study
and
I
am
curious
about
the
the
discussion
of
the
interaction
between
the
aru
and
the
police
workforce
study.
A
Obviously,
as
you
have
all
illustrated
at
this
moment,
one
aru
is
a
drop
in
the
bucket
compared
to
the
number
of
calls
that
potentially
an
aru
could
be
fielding,
but
I'm
just
I'm
wondering
that
as
recommendations
are
going
to
be
coming
through
how
these
two
things
are
going
to
be
interacting
with
each
other.
F
Counselor
casa
on
I'll
take
that
question.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
Yes,
the
police
workforce
study
is
underway.
F
Was
we
had
a
draft
we've
looked
at
the
draft
police
department
really
dug
in
and
found
that
there
were
some
issues
with
the
data
in
that
was
a
problem,
and
so
you
know
good
data
and
good
product
out.
We
didn't
have
some
of
the
systems
weren't
lining
up
in
terms
of
what
they
were
seeing
in
call
volumes,
so
the
the
consultant
matrix
says
going
back
and
looking
at
that
revisiting
that,
based
on
our
input,
I
have
asked
them
to
look
at
the
aru.
F
Really,
it's
not
going
to
be
possible
to
integrate
it
fully
because
they're
looking
at
pre-coded
data
for
2019
before
the
unit
started,
because
our
2020
data
is
such
an
anomaly
because
of
covid,
so
they
are
examining
a
data
set
that
doesn't
include
all
the
data
you
saw
tonight
from
the
aru.
However
they're
very
interested
in
exploring
the
project
you
can,
we
can
look,
we've
asked
them
to
look
at
it
as
a
sort
of
what,
if
you
know,
if
you
analyze
data,
what
could
we
ex?
What
could
we?
F
What
could
we
meaningfully
presume
about
the
impact,
an
area
you
might
have
on
police
work
needs
or
staffing
needs?
It's
not
going
to
be
a
one-to-one
comparison
just
because
of
the
different
time
frames,
but
we
hope
to
have
that
study
complete
going
into
budget,
and
you
know
it
can
inform
what
we
ask
for
with
the
aru
as
well.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you.
I
I
do
appreciate
that.
I
know
it's
it's
it's
hard
to
get
hard
numbers
there
and
again.
I
know:
we've
had
this
conversation
and
sometimes
there's
this
idea
that
we're
trying
to
really.
A
I
think
what
we
were
talking
about
at
the
beginning
is
that
there
are
calls
that
come
in,
that
there
are
other
types
of
first
responders
that
might
be
a
better
fit
than
police,
and
it
also
allows
police
to
be
focusing
on
the
vast
number
of
things
that
police
need
to
be
focusing
on
in
our
community,
because
we
do
understand
that
they're
really
stretched.
So
I
really
appreciate
you
guys
trying
as
much
as
possible
to
see
where
the
impacts
could
be
and
and
how
we
best
serve
the
community
with
our
different
public
safety
teams.
A
I
think
that
this
is
a
really
important
discussion
for
budget,
especially
that
conversation
of
what
is
the
kind
of
internal
city
infrastructure
that
we
need
to
build
to
really
have
a
solid
base,
solid
foundation
for
all
of
these
really
incredible
and
innovative
programs-
and
I
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
thinking
about
this
on
all
these
levels
and
again
continuing
to
evaluate
and
to
adjust
this
program,
to
see
how
it
can
really
serve
these
huge,
complicated,
widespread
needs
in
our
community
that,
quite
frankly,
have
only
gotten
worse,
and
so
I
just
really
cannot
express
my
gratitude
enough.
A
So
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
being
here
and
with
that.
I
will
move
us
to
the
next
presentation,
which
I
believe
some
of
you
will
be
staying
here.
So
top
arrests
in
2021
and
progress
on
harrison,
road
and
interim
chief
joy
and
sergeant
montano
floor
is
yours.
A
G
Great
all
right
so
and
I'll
be
able
to
send
this
to
everyone
as
well,
for
those
who
don't
have
it
and
I'm
looking
off
to
the
side
here,
so
I'm
trying
to
be
able
to
see
you
all,
but
also
the
screen
here.
So
I'm
gonna
refresh
this.
We
presented
this
to
the
folks
on
harrison
road,
the
community
members
and
had
a
very
productive
meeting.
I
think
it
went
well.
I
hope
it
went
well
and
provided
some
feedback.
G
I'm
gonna
try
to
be
pretty
brief
on
this,
as
in
I
guess,
sit
back
for
questions.
If
you
guys
have
it.
I've
seen
your
agenda.
I
know
you
guys
have
a
lot
going
on
today.
Sergeant
matano
is
here
as
well,
so
she
can
give
more
of
that
ground
level
discussion
if
you
guys
have
those
questions,
but
so
moving
on.
G
Let's
see
if
this
works
all
right.
So
the
background
on
this
is
so
what
you're
seeing
here
in
the
photo.
This
is
a
photo
of
harrison
road.
The
red
outline
here.
This
is
how
we
do
our
search
through
for
data,
so
we
don't
necessarily
we're
not
able
to
search
by
road.
G
All
calls
for
service
on
a
particular
road,
so
what
we
do
is
we
bring
into
a
radius
and
then
we
do
our
calls
for
service
search
by
that
by
that
radius,
and
so,
as
you
can
see
here,
for
2021
527,
proactive,
close
patrols
on
harrison
road
that
averages
to
roughly
1.5
close
patrols
per
day,
just
on
harrison
road,
we
had
at
least
12
shift
briefings
again.
We
responded
to
921
calls
for
service
our
highest
call
for
service,
which
isn't
it's
not
a
surprise.
G
Again
from
my
poll
today
for
2021
citywide,
we
had
12
263,
closed
patrols
so
year
to
year,
close
patrols,
despite
our
staffing
challenges
and
and
all
the
other
things
that
we're
seeing
close
patrols
are
still
our
number
one
call
for
service
that
we
that
we
have
logged
in.
G
This
is
just
again
the
top
calls
for
service
by
frequency
for
harrison
road
again,
close
patrols
are
number
one
followed
by
disorderly
conducts
again.
This
isn't
really
particularly
surprising
and
then
suspicious
persons
in
that
or
activity
welfare
checks.
Generally
speaking,
welfare
checks
are
pretty
high,
ear
to
ear
citywide
again
because
they're,
a
generalized
term
truck,
stops
on
there
as
well.
These
aren't
everything
these
are
just
the
top
ones
that
we
were
able
to
hammer
in.
G
And
this
is
the
first
month
of
2022
so
far
once
again
close
patrols,
it's
still
averaging
about
1.5
patrols
per
day.
Suspicious
personal
activity
is
number
two
on
this
one
and
and
if
you
guys
have
any
questions
along
the
way,
please
I
can't
see
hands
so
just
yell
at
me.
G
So
the
police
operation
efforts
enforcement
efforts,
so
the
operation
formerly
on
paper
began
at
the
beginning
of
january.
However,
it
was
beginning
of
december
that
the
bike
team
sergeant
amanda
montano
and
her
group
the
beginning
of
december,
they
went
out
there.
It
was
again
kind
of
familiarizing
themselves
with
the
situation
meeting
with
business
owners
meeting
with
folks
who
live
in
the
area
to
get
a
full
assessment
of
of
what
they're
seeing
and
what
the
issues
are,
so
that
sergeant
montano.
This
is
her
operation.
G
She
would
kind
of
best
know
how
to
put
the
wheels
in
motion.
One
of
the
things
that
we
thought
was
pretty
cool
for
for
this
operation
was.
We
were
able
to
get
one
woman
back
to
her
family
in
arizona
who
was
found
on
harrison
road
and
we
located
one
individual
who
was
wanted
for
warrants
for
drug
trafficking
and
he
was
also
charged
with
trafficking
again,
a
large
amount
of
narcotics
and
on
the
patrol
side.
G
One
of
those
arrests
was
initiated
off
of
observations
made
on
harrison
road,
and
so
I
can't
go
too
far
into
the
weeds
on
that,
but
we
we've
been
there
on
patrol
and
also
again,
it's
the
bike
team
as
well
for
the
month
of
january,
24,
arrests
in
total,
one
for
shoplifting,
23
were
for
warrants,
and
then
you
can
see
the
the
citations
and
72
disorderly
conduct
contacts
so
moving
on,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
on
that
and
just
again,
I'm
going
to
ramble
a
little
bit,
I'm
going
to
stop
the
screen
share
for
now.
G
Can
I
come
back,
we
good
okay,
what
has
been
cool
for
us?
I
think,
and
it's
it's
I'm
glad-
that
we
were
able
to
kind
of
piggyback
off
of
the
aru
presentation
as
well,
because
I
think
what
has
been
proven
successful
for
us
is
a
big
word
of
collaboration
with
aru.
A
lot
of
these
issues
are
more
than
a
police
issue,
they're
more
than
what
the
police
can
handle
by
themselves
or
or
accurately
and
successfully
resolve
on
their
own,
and
so
with
aru
it
was.
G
It
was
working
with
our
other
partners
in
the
community
health
and
safety
department.
With
our
harrison
road
operation,
we've
been
fortunate
to
work
with
the
new
director
at
the
shelter
karina
lopez.
She
was
once
she
took
over
director
ochoa
made
it
a
point
to
get
us
together
via
zoom.
I
was
gonna,
say
in
a
room,
but
we
weren't
it
was
a
virtual
room
to
have
conversations
and
swap
phone
numbers
and
discuss
issues
and
and
hammer
out
how
this
was
going
to
play
out
for
us.
So
the
operation
has
been
extended
for
30
days.
G
I
know
one
of
the
community
members
yesterday
raised
concerns
that
oh
30
days
isn't
enough.
I
don't
disagree
with
her,
but
but
basically,
what
we're
doing
is
every
30
days
we're
reevaluating
and
we're
seeing
again
what
kind
of
tweaks
we
need
to
make,
or
we
can
make
sergeant
montano
not
only
speak
for
her,
but
was
discussing
trying
to
expand
the
radius
of
the
operation
to
again
include
some
of
the
other
neighboring
roads
and
streets
and
businesses.
But
again
it's
we're
evolving
here.
D
You
all
pretty
soon
you're
gonna
see
my
nose
hairs.
If
I
get
any
closer.
I
I
appreciate
the
presentation
and
even
last
night
and
I
didn't
have
any
specific
questions.
I
guess
I
was
curious.
What
we
should
tell
community
members,
there's
some
activity
happening
on
jorgensen
and
there
are
businesses
that
have
some
information
and
they
would
like
to
know
what
is
the
best
way
to
get
that
information
to
you
all.
So
it's
helpful
for
investigations
on
drug
trafficking.
D
L
G
Sure,
madam
chair
councilman
viorell,
so
what
I
try
to
advocate
for
is
for
people
to
call
dispatch
when
these
are
happening
in
real
time.
G
I
it's
hard
for
me
to
gather
an
appropriate
response
or
to
assess
for
appropriate
resources
when
I'm
getting
emails
of
things.
That
happened
after
the
fact,
and
so
it's
not
in
any
way
disputing
or
diminishing
the
issues
that
they're
experiencing,
and
I
understand
that
people
don't
necessarily
want
to.
G
You
can
call
in
anonymously
dispatch
will
ask
for
your
information.
You
don't
necessarily
have
to
give
it
for
us.
On
the
back
side,
though,
it
is
more
helpful
for
us
in
the
in
working
and
building
the
case,
and
I
can
speak
from
to
that
experience
both
as
an
officer
and
as
a
detective
here.
It
help
it's
helpful
for
us
to
have
the
people
who
are
watching
it
are
seeing.
It
are
the
victims
of
it
to
work
with
us
to
build
these
cases.
G
But
again
I
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
folks
who
are
seeing
this
and
want
to
remain
anonymous,
but
it
it
is
a
challenge
for
us
as
well,
but
bouncing
around
again,
I'm
sorry
if
they
can
call
it
in
real
time
or
as
close
to
real
time
and
when
they're.
Seeing
these
things
happen
that
way,
we
can
have
the
data
the
when
we're
calling
pulling
up
calls
for
service
in
our
system.
G
D
G
G
Or
if
they
call
for
the
non-emergency
dispatch,
number
they'll
also
refer
to
the
director
hotline,
but
those
are
monitored
by
our
narcotics
sergeant
and
they
all
of
our
drug
tips
do
get
investigated
again
depending
on
the
volume.
This
is
another
thing
I
I've
said
before
the
these
may
take
a
while.
They
may
take
multiple
calls,
because
the
detectives
may
go
out
there
and
they're
not
seeing
what
the
folks
in
the
neighborhood
are
seeing.
That
doesn't
mean
that
it's
not
happening.
Both
things
can
be
true
that
this
is
happening.
G
The
neighbors
are
seeing
it
when
our
detectives
are
out
there,
it's
hard
for
us
to
hammer
down
a
timeline
all
the
time,
and
so
it
especially
especially
drug
investigations
they
they
take
a
while.
So
but
it's
important
that
the
community
again,
we
rely
on
the
community
to
help
us
out
and
and
be
our
eyes
and
ears
for
when
things
are
happening.
K
You,
madame
cherry,
I
have
a
one,
quick
question
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
going
to
be
a
short
answer.
But
what,
when
you
respond
to
a
call
out
on
harrison
road-
and
there
obviously
is
something-
that's
triggered
a
a
reason
to
arrest
somebody
or
take
them
in
for
services
of
sort.
Obviously,
this
kind
of
goes
around
the
whole.
K
What
we
just
discussed
in
the
alternative
response
units
and
where
are
they
taken
and
how
often
are
they
just
coming
back
out
and
in
the
same
cycle,
and
I
think
that's
a
big
concern
from
a
lot
of
the
community
members
and
how
are
we
addressing
that
because
a
lot
of
times
you'll
probably
see
it's
the
same
person
and
in
the
same
cycle
and
again,
the
reality
is:
how
do
we
get
these
people
help
into
a
better
situation
and
also
continue
to
make
our
community
safer
and
maybe
just
a
little
quick
elaboration
on
the
process
where
they
take
them
when
they
are
committing
crimes
or
are
in
a
situation
where
they
need
assistance
and
how
quickly
are
they
back
in
the
same
spot?.
G
Sure
all
right,
madam
chair
counselor,
garcia,
take
a
stab
at
this
here
so
and
this
is
another
frustration
that
we've
heard
both
from
folks
at
the
shelter
and
in
citywide.
G
So
as
an
example,
let's
say
I'm
trespassing
in
your
property,
you
call
police,
you
have
video
of
me,
trespassing
on
your
property.
You
took
pictures
of
me,
trespassing
in
your
property,
but
by
the
time
the
police
got
there
I'm
across
the
street.
Obviously
we
know
I
was
trespassing.
You
know
it.
You've
got
the
video
to
prove
it.
You've
got
the
photos
to
prove
it,
but
criminal
trespass
is
not
a
misdemeanor
exception,
which
means
the
officer
has
to
be
present
to
witness
it
in
real
time
to
make
an
arrest
for
it.
G
But
what
the
officer
can
do
is
issue
a
citation
for
it
and
so
there's
only
a
limited
number
of
misdemeanors
that
qualify
as
misdemeanor
exceptions,
and
I
can
pull
that
online
and
send
it
to
you
all
as
well.
But
if
it's,
if
it
doesn't
meet
the
qualification
of
a
misdemeanor
exception,
then
the
officer
can
still
issue
a
citation,
but
that's
basically
the
end
of
the
interaction
and
send
that
person
on
their
way.
G
If
it's
someone
who
is
in
need
of
additional
services,
if
aru
is
out,
obviously
they
can
make
that
call
for
aru
there's
other
resources
that
they
can
call
in
with
the
mobile
health
unit.
That
is
also
a
resource
that
is
still
building
up
to
get
to
capacity
to,
I
think,
operate
at
23
7..
G
So
the
the
interesting
thing
is:
there's
a
lot
of
potential
resources
that
are
all
working
in
real
time
to
build
up
to
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
serve
around
the
clock,
but
as
much
as
I
would
like-
and
I
think
everyone
would
like-
and
this
isn't
everyone
already
knows-
it's
not
an
overnight
fix
and
so
we're
having
to
work
with
what
we
can
work
with.
G
But
the
shelter
has
been
helpful
in
that
with
regard
to
the
criminal
aspect
in
in
the
camping,
their
zero
tolerance
policy
has
been
helpful
for
us
as
well,
and
the
fact
that
they're
they're
sticking
to
it
of
if
you,
if
in
the
past,
as
I
understand
it
and
the
there
were
people
who
were
trespassed
or
issued
a
do
not
serve
or
do
not
return,
but
they
were
allowing
them
on
the
property
to
to
eat
or
receive
other
services
which,
on
the
pd
side
well,
then
they're
not
trespassed,
because
you're
letting
mom
to
to
get
this
they're,
either
trespassing
or
not.
G
And
so,
with
this
discussion
and
working
with
the
shelter
that
they're
kind
of
sticking
to
this
plan,
the
people
who
are
camping
on
harrison
if
they're
doing
so
they're
not
welcome
in
the
shelter
it's
it's
either
or
it's
not
both
and
working
with
the
bike
team
to
keep
folks
from
bouncing
around
again.
G
What
we
don't
want
to
do
is
criminalize
homelessness
right,
similar
to
aru,
where
we
don't
want
to
criminalize
behavioral
health
or
mental
health,
and
so
where
it
is,
we
want
to
make
it
so
that
the
folks
at
the
shelter
are
as
safe
as
they
can
be,
while
they're
receiving
those
services,
because
the
issue
that
we
were
experiencing
that
the
folks
at
the
shelter
were
experiencing
is
they
were.
G
They
were
being
preyed
upon
as
well
and
targeted
by
folks
who
were
in
the
criminal
element,
and
so
they
that
that's
where
again
we're
we
really
relied
on
the
shelter
to
tell
us
these
folks
belong
these
folks.
Don't
these
guys
are
a
problem.
These
folks
are
here
we're
trying
to
keep
these
guys
safe.
So
again,
I
hope
I
answered
your
question.
K
I
I
I
think
you
kind
of
skirted
around
my
question
in
regards
to
what
you
know.
We
all
understand
what's
happening
down
in
these
areas
and
all
around
santa
fe
with
homelessness
and
the
reality
is
what
is
the
fix?
You
know
I.
I
sat
for
about
15
minutes
in
my
office
today
with
somebody
who
lives
in
this
car
and
he
has
a
dog
and
what's
the
solution
I
mean:
where
do
we?
Where
do
people
go
just
to
get
a
warm
room
for
the
night?
And
I
you
know.
K
Obviously
this
is
a
big
issue
and
it's
a
it's
very
important
to
all
all
of
the
city
administratively
and
the
governing
body.
Everybody
was
in
attendance
last
evening
and
you
know
it
it's
tough,
because
it's
it's
really
hitting
the
points
on
mental
illness,
homelessness
and
yet
we
still
have
ordinances
in
our
city
and
we
have
rules
that
we
need
to
abide
by
and
how
do
we
create
it
so
we're
compassionate,
but
at
the
same
time
we
have
a
standard
that
we
need
to
that.
K
We
need
to
abide
by,
and
so
I
think
that's
just
my
comments
and
I'm
eager
to
see
how
this
continues
and
how
it
works,
with
the
alternative
response
unit
and
with
police
and
fire
and
and
community
health
and
safety,
and
all
people
that
are
involved
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
yield.
Thank
you.
A
I
do
have
one
question.
I
know:
we've
we've
had
a
lot
of
focus
on
harrison
road.
Understandably,
given
its
proximity
to
the
interfaith
shelter,
I
have
had
a
number
of
calls
discussions
with
some
of
my
constituents
across
cerrios
road,
especially
those
living
in
the
neighborhood.
A
You
know
kind
of
behind
some
of
the
shopping
centers
on
the
other
side
of
cerrios
and
individuals
that
are
close
to
franklin
miles
and
there
is
a
general
understanding
or
you
know
it
seems
that
the
placement
of
interfaith
is
also
impacting
these
neighborhoods
and
you
might
not
have
the
information
right
now
I
apologize.
I
did
not
give
you
a
heads
up
that
I'd
be
interested
in
this
data,
but
I
would
be
curious
to
hear
what
you
guys
are
seeing
as
well
as
what
the
potential
opportunities
for
how
you
know.
A
How
do
we
really
look
at
this
kind
of
this
general
radius
sergeant
montano?
You
might
be
able
to
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
the
radius
that
the
bike
patrol
actually
covers,
but
if
I
could
hear
a
little
bit
more
information
on
that
that
you
have
now
and
if
you
want
to
send
me
follow-up,
if
you
don't
have
things
at
your
fingertips,
that's
okay,
too,.
M
Good
evening,
madam
chair,
so
right
now,
the
operation
that
we're
conducting
operation
harmonious
is
just
in
the
general
area
of
harrison
so
we're
staying
within
the
boundaries
of
seiler
and
refina
to
communicate.
We
do
do
frankly
miles
and
that's
just
that's
just
a
general
area
in
clark
road,
so
those
are
the
general
areas
now.
M
A
Yeah,
thank
you
sergeant.
Montano.
That
actually
really
does
clark
road
is
is
very
much
the
neighborhood
that
I
am
speaking
of
that
that
I
do
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
there
being
homeless,
individuals
there's
a
specifically
like
a
some
type
of
alleyway.
A
I'm
sure
I'm
not
using
the
correct
terminology
that
director
macdonald
would
want
me
to,
but
I
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
people
will
say
that
there
will
be
encampments
encampments
there
and
then,
as
you
mentioned
franklin
miles,
so
I'm
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
that
you
guys
are
expanding
that
area
and
seeing
some
of
the
other
neighborhoods
that
are
impacted
and
understand
that
it
will
be
probably
a
moving
target,
especially
as
there
is
this
focus
on
harrison
and,
as
you
mentioned,
how
we
move
things
out
and
how
that
also
integrates
with
some
of
the
other
potential
responses
that
I
know
you
know
we're
looking
at
with
community
health
and
safety
with
the
mobile
hygiene
unit,
arus
etc.
A
A
I
don't
believe
I
have
any
other
questions
anything
else
from
any
member
of
the
committee.
A
If
not
thank
you
both
so
much
for
being
here
and
we
will
move
on
to
items
pulled
from
consent.
A
So
the
first
is
item
b
and
this
is
a
resolution
adopting
next
steps
for
the
reuse
and
redevelopment
of
the
midtown
property,
including
applying
for
land
use,
rezoning
general
plan
amendment
and
a
master
plan
adopting
a
community
development
plan
issuing
certain
requests
for
proposals,
conducting
certain
studies
and
assessments
and
seeking
the
acquisition
of
land
located
within
or
adjacent
to
the
midtown
site
and
rich
brown.
The
director
of
community
and
economic
development
is
here
to
present
and
answer
questions.
Council
garcia.
I
do
believe
you
pulled
this
so
the
floor
is
yours.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
rich
for
being
with
us
tonight
orange
right
now.
Oh
no
worries
good
to
see
you
rich.
I
do
got
a
couple
questions
and
hopefully
they'll.
C
So
within
the
resolution
there's
looks
like
there's
nine
action
items,
and
so
I'm
more
so
interested
in
action
item
one
and
two.
I
know
that
we're
currently
wrapping
up
the
community
engagement
process
that
we're
we've
been
going
through
for
a
couple
months
now,
which
is
to
help
us
kind
of
really
determine
what
the
future
of
the
midtown
property
should
look
like,
at
least
from
the
community's
perspective,
and
so
I
guess
with
that
being
said,
can
you
help
me
understand
why
we
would
take
steps
one
and
two?
N
Madam
chair
and
good
evening
to
everyone
and
council
garcia
daniel
hernandez,
our
project
manager
is
on
here
and
I'm
going
to
have
him
speak
to
that
question.
As
he's
been
driving
the
community
development
as
it
aligns,
together
with
infrastructure
and
land
development.
So
I'm
going
to
have
dan
daniel
sort
of
answer
that
question
as
where
we
are
post
the
analysis.
N
Then
more
information,
that's
coming
down
the
pipe
daniel.
If
you
could
answer
that,
one.
L
Sure,
well,
the
first.
The
first
item
is
the
rezoning
and
creating
a
master
plan
and
any
other
ordinance
amendments
that
we
may
want
to
make
to
the
existing
link
overlay.
L
So
one
we
are,
you
know
there
through
the
public
engagement
process
over
the
past
year
and
since
2018,
we
are
just
tracking
things
that
deviate
from
those
original
midtown
planning
guidelines
that
were
passed
through
a
resolution,
whether
there's
any
deviations,
that's
in
hopes,
aspirations,
vision,
goals
for
the
site
and
there
haven't
been
so
all
of
that
was
really
confirmed
during
the
public
engagement
process,
which
we're
just
kind
of
keeping
track
of
it's
all
sort
of
live
and
iterative.
L
So
this
sets
the
groundwork
for
actually
implementing
the
land
uses
that
everyone
has
continually
said
that
they
want
to
see
it
midtown
higher
education,
film
and
arts
and
culture,
affordable
housing,
and
so
this
just
allows
those
land
uses
to
happen
at
midtown.
L
So
again,
we
wanted
to
wait
until
we
finished
with
the
public
engagement
and
if
there
was
anything
that
we
that
you
know
were
deviated
from
or
there's
already
in
this
link
overlay
in
the
2018
planning
guidelines
and
things
that
we
heard
over
the
course
of
the
summer
and
fall,
then
we
would,
you
know,
amend,
but
we
didn't
have
any
deviation,
so
we
feel
comfortable
moving
forward
with
that.
L
Also,
we
will
be
going
through
the
additional
public
engagement
in
the
spring
and
summer,
we'll
go
through
the
regulatory
process,
that's
required
by
the
planning
land
use
office,
but
we'll
also
have
additional
opportunities
to
re-engage
as
we
begin
sort
of
vetting
of
the
land
plans
itself.
The
community
development
plan
is
the
same
way.
All
this
is
saying
right
now
is
that
we
are
waiting
for
the
public
engagement
report
to
be
completed,
which
is
on
the
beginning.
At
the
end
of
march,
then
we'll
begin
writing
the
community
development
plan.
L
After
that,
and
we
will
continue
to
engage
the
better
engagement
partners
in
that
process
as
well
to
help
us
that
again
with
communities
around
santa
fe.
So
all
of
this
stuff
is
just
letting
the
public
and
the
governing
body
know
that
we're
moving
forward
with
these
things
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
just
made
public
yeah.
So
there's
still
more
ahead
of
as
far
as
public
engagement
goes.
But
again,
this
is
to
indicate
to
the
public
that
we
want
these
things
to
occur
and
commit
to
them
being
completed.
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
daniel.
I
appreciate
that
and-
and
I
guess,
let's
focus
back
on
number
one-
the
rezoning
amending
the
master
plan
etc,
because
this
resolution
is
the
governing
body,
then
is
giving
authority
to
the
city
manager.
Does
that
mean
the
city
manager
can
rezone
at
will
or
is
all
of
these
approvals
got
to
come
back
before
the
governing
body?
L
Be
question
about
that
there
is
a
very
regulated
process
for
land
use
approvals
and
so
there's
public
notifications
that
have
to
happen
presentations
that
have
to
happen
and
go
to
the
planning
commission
so
we'll
be
working
with
land
use
staff
and
then
it
goes
to
the
governing
body.
So
there's
a
series
of
approval
routes
that
we
still
have
to
go
through.
C
C
Oh
no,
no,
it's
just
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
was
not
part
of
the
packet,
if,
if
there,
if
it
wasn't
created,
but
I
I
pulled
it
up
and
it's
a
two-page
document,
usually
you
know
the
second
or
third
page
has
that
spreadsheet
that
lists
out
the
cost,
how
where
it's
impacting
which
departments
et
cetera
and
I'm
seeing
nothing
that
kind
of
sheet
missing.
C
So
I
don't
know
if
it
just
wasn't
included
or
just
to
get
some
clarification
on
it,
because
I
I'm
assuming
this
there
is
going
to
be
costs
on
the
city's
behalf
with
each
of
these
nine
items,
and
I
guess
my
follow-up
to
that
is:
could
we
break
it
out
item
by
item
it's
going
to
cost
us
to
work
on
the
rezoning
it's
going
to
cost
us
to
develop
the
this
community
development
plan.
It's
going
to
cost
us
this
much
to
work
on
the
fir.
C
I
mean
not
the
fir
the
rfps
for
each
of
the
consecutive
listed
items.
I
think
that's
what
I
would
like
to
see
kind
of
drawn
out.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
get
into
that
micro
level,
but
I
it
would
be
fantastic
if
we
could.
N
Ma'am,
chair,
council,
garcia.
I
can
answer
your
first
question.
I
don't
know
where
the
actual
the
calculation
page
is.
It
should
be
there.
So
I
need
to
get
back
to
you.
I
know
that
miss
mccoy
and
ms
mccherry
has
signed
it,
but
there
should
be
another
page
that
outlines
the
fiscal
year
by
fiscal
year.
N
So
it's
I'm
just
noticing-
and
it's
not
in
here,
so
I
will
get
that
to
everyone
and
as
it
relates
to
your
line
by
line
cost,
it's
it's
possible
to
do,
and
I
know
that
daniel
and
the
team
are
working
through
a
sequence,
the
critical
path
timeline.
So
it
may
be
something
that
we
could
separate
out
by
the
critical
path
timeline
in
these
nine
items
it
might
get
into
the
micro.
N
C
Okay,
great
thank
you
for
at
least
entertaining
the
request,
because
I
think
it
it's
it's
important
for
us
to
and
and
more
so
the
public
to
understand
how
what
this
process
is
costing
us
as
we
go
step
by
step
by
step
with
that.
No
other
questions,
man,
I'm
sure,
thank
you,
rich
and
daniel.
For
for
the
information.
Thank
you.
A
D
I
will
try
to
ask
these
questions
and
hopefully
you
can
hear
them.
I
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
development
plan
and
who
will
oversee
the
development
of
the
community
development
plan
and
how
does
it
tie
to
the
rest
of
the
components
of
the
process.
N
If
men
chair
council-
very,
I
think
you
said
who
will
be
in
leading
the
development
plan,
the
community
development
plan
in
this
process,
and
then,
secondly,
I
didn't
really
hear.
I
think
it
was
a
timeline.
You
said
and.
N
Tyson
tyson
so
mountain
chair,
council
burial,
I'm
gonna
ask
daniel
to
answer
that
question
because
in
one
of
our
progress
reports
we
show
kind
of
the
we
showed
a
timeline
and
we
showed
a
path
forward.
So
you
know,
maybe
you
can
verbally
discuss
how
that
works.
Yeah.
L
There
is
a
slide
in
the
previous
presentation,
but-
and
I
can
send
it
to
the
committee
if
you'd
like
so
we
are,
the
the
public
engagement
report
is
due
at
the
end
of
march.
L
We,
during
the
month
of
march,
we
will
be
again
we'll
begin
presenting
elements
of
the
of
the
land
development
plan
so
that
at
the
end
of
march,
both
of
these
efforts,
the
public
engagement
report
and
the
land
development
plan-
are
pretty
much
at
the
point
of
being
able
to
go
on
a
new
trajectory
of
public
engagement
through
the
spring
and
summer.
As
we
go
through
the
approvals
process,
there
they'll
iterate
between
the
two
of
them
and
oh
there.
L
It
is
thanks,
rich
and
and
so
they're
synced
up
now
and
and
so
again,
they'll
be
able
to
inform
each
other.
I
I
in
another
sort
of
and
to
reiterate
this
to
the
land
development
plan.
If
you
can
think
of
it
as
a
physical,
you
know
a
plan
that
dictates
the
physical
development
of
the
site.
What
gifts
built
on
it,
the
things
you
can
touch
the
community
development
plan
mostly
focuses
on
the
goals.
L
So,
if
we're
building
housing,
how
much
of
it
is
affordable
if
we're
having
open
space,
what
is
it
programmed
to
do
so?
It's
more
about
the
the
social
and
and
and
cultural
fabric
of
the
place
that
versus
the
you
know
the
physical
development
of
the
place
so
again,
they're
iterative,
because
a
lot
of
the
community
development
plan
will
talk
about
green
and
sustainable
development
and
that
will
clearly
impact
the
land
development
plan
as
well,
and
so
those
are
going.
D
L
So
I'm
working
very
closely
with
alexandra
lab
the
director
of
affordable
housing
on
the
community
development
plan
and
she
is
attending
she
and
lee
longstrom
attend
all
and
liz
camacho
attend
all
of
the
midtown
engagement
partners,
slash
jpg
meetings.
They
have
been
throughout
the
course
of
summer
and
school
to
the
fall
and
there's
discussions
right
now
underway
and
we'll
continue
them
through
the
end
of
march.
L
They'll
be
doing
that
stuff
also
they'll
be
doing
that
engagement,
also
with
their
public
english
report
in
march
they're
having
a
few
voices,
voicemail
midtown
voices
workshops
and
that
document
will
also
be
you
know
the
key
element
of
empowering
the
communities
about
the
plan
itself,
so
we'll
leave
their
partnership
for
a
while.
N
And
add
to
that,
I'm
sure
council
viral
I'm
also
looking
for
additional
funding
so
that
we
can
keep
the
engagement
with
the
maps
together
as
we
go
through
the
entire
land
development
process,
as
the
dpac
contract
closes
down.
So
so
it's
a
concurrent
process
we're
going
through
right
now.
D
Great-
and
I
hope
that
if
you
do
need
funds
related
to
continuing
deepak's
contract
or
the
community
grants
to
be
able
to
continue
that
process
so
that
these
partners
are
part
of
the
community
development
plan,
I
would
support
any
budget
requests
for
that.
So
I'm
just
letting
you
know
that.
That's
something
that's
important
to
me
to
my
colleagues
as
well.
E
D
N
Madam
chair
council
viral:
it's
a
couple.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
It's
I'm
gonna
ask
ms
salazar
and
mr
hernandez
to
to
speak
to
that
right
now.
Our
contractor
at
strategic
economics
is
working
through
the
the
fundamentals
of
the
mra
tiff
idea
and
working
with
internally
with
our
staff,
and
ms
salazar
has
engaged
our
council
other
outside
council
and
we've
been
working
with
our
albuquerque
partners
to
make
sure
that
we
do
it
the
right
way,
because
they've
done
a
lot
of
it
in
albuquerque.
O
Andre
rich,
madame
chair,
counselor,
via
real,
I
guess
I'll
start
off
the
answer,
but
strategic
economics
is
basically
guiding
the
modeling.
We
have
done
a
lot
of
deep
digging
into
what
new
mexico
statutory
framework
exists.
That
means
that
in
our
office
there
are
three
of
us
working
on
it.
Along
with
we
meet
with
finance
members,
brad
flush
and
also
externally.
We
have
our
bond
council
that
we've
been
meeting
with
to
discuss
bonding
functions
versus
tid
functions.
We've
also
met
with
laird
grazer.
O
O
We've
also
been
in
contact
with
the
economic
development
group
at
the
state
talking
to
them
about
leta
functioning
along
with
mras,
so
it's
basically
a
research
project
that
we're
fueling
a
lot
of
that
information
or
feeding
it
to
dina
and
her
team,
and
they
are
going
to
be
creating
the
modeling.
We're
probably
going
to
be
discussing
the
legal
framework
and
the
governance
structure
that
might
come
along
with
that.
L
Just
a
quick
update
or
follow-up
they
will
be
deanna
will
be.
The
strategic
economics
team
has
been
showing
his
preliminary
the
preliminary
model
they
will
be
presenting
to
the
finance
committee.
I
believe
in
march.
I
can
pull
out
that
calendar,
but
I
believe
it's
march,
so
they'll
do
a
synopsis
of
that
model,
as
well
as
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
mra
and
metropolitan
redevelopment
area
in
a
tax,
increment
development,
district
and
dina
had
just.
D
P
A
K
B
Councillor
chavez
yes,
chair
cassette,
yes,.
A
A
This
is
a
resolution
establishing
additional
legislative
funding
priorities
based
on
the
potential
availability
of
additional
funding
during
the
2022
legislative
session.
Rich
brown
is
going
to
stay
with
us
and
it
looks
like
director.
Wheeler
is
here
as
well,
and
if
I
can
ask
all
members
of
the
committee
to
refresh
your
prime
gov,
because
there
are
two
amendments,
there
should
be
an
amendment
from
councillor
lindell
and
an
amendment
from
councillor
rivera
that
we
will
be
considering
based
on
our
new
rules
this
evening
as
well.
Councilor
garcia,
you
pulled
this
item.
C
Sure
I'll
ask
my
question
then
I'll
refresh,
just
because
I
hadn't
seen
those
amendments.
Let's
see
the
first
ques.
The
first
question
I
got
is
rich
regina.
Can
you
help
me
understand
how
we
arrived
at
these
nine
items,
given
that
we
have
a
completely
different
list
that
we've
been
working
off
for
our
legislative
priorities
and
I
think
maybe
one
of
these
items
was
on
that
list.
So
if
you
can
help
me
understand
where,
where
these
nine
items
came
from.
N
Madam
chair
missed
council
garcia,
the
nine
items
came
from
a
couple
places,
but
there
are
some
items
on
here
that
were
originally
on
our
capital
outlay,
which
are
our
priority
funding
options.
These
are
also
items
that
we've
been
considering
internally
from
arpa
funding
standpoint,
and
so
we
originally
had
put
together
this
resolution
to
push
it
through,
hopefully
at
the
legislature,
to
enhance
our
secondary
funding
opportunities
with
state
park
funding.
N
So
these
are
community
development,
related
they're
capital,
related
they're
program,
related
they're,
economic
development
related,
and
so
they
are
items
that
qualify
under
the
treasury
guidelines
for
arpa,
but
they
may
come.
The
funding
from
the
state
may
come
from
all
different
places,
but
that's
how
they
originally
came
up
there.
So
when
you
look
at
some
of
the
first
two
or
three,
they
are
actually
part
of
our
original
capital
outlay
and
we're
just
asking
for
additional
funding
so
that
hopefully,
will
accelerate
some
of
the
work
that
we
need
to
do
for
the
capital
projects.
C
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
guess
a
follow-up
to
that
is.
How
did
we
arrive
at
the
the
requests
for
funding?
I
mean
so
some
of
them
got.
I
mean
these
are
some
big
amounts,
50
million
dollars
for
a
couple
of
them,
so
I
mean
how
did
we?
How
can
we
justify
asking
for
that?
Much
I
mean
I
didn't
see.
Maybe
I
missed
it
and
I
didn't
see
in
the
packet
kind
of
background
info
on
on
what
these
items
entail.
C
It
would
be
great
to
kind
of
fully
understand
for
asking,
for
you
know,
for
example,
50
million
dollars
for
supportive,
permanent
and
workforce
housing
development.
I
mean
that's
very
broad.
I
mean
what
what
is
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
50
million
dollars?
For
that
I
mean,
are
we
going
to
you
know
we
heard
last
night
during
the
the
harrison
road
conversation
you
know
look
at
developing.
You
know,
maybe
a
small
house,
tiny
house
community
for
transitional
housing
for
for
our
homeless
community,
and
could
that
be
this?
C
Could
this
50
million
dollars
be
used?
For
that
I
mean
I
I
don't
know,
because
I
don't
know
what
this
request
entails
and
I
think,
from
a
legislators
perspective.
I
think
we
should
come
to
them
with
kind
of
that
background
info.
Okay,
we're
asking
for
50
million,
and
this
is
what
we're
hoping
to
accomplish
with
this
50
million
and
have
that
kind
of
framework
and
plan
set
out.
So
I
don't
know
if
it's
there
did.
I
miss
that
and
if
I
did
maybe
now
that
I
refreshed
it,
maybe
it'll
pop
up.
N
Rich
chair
and
council
garcia,
thank
you
for
the
question.
These
are
items
start
backwards.
The
state
is
eligible
for
1.1
billion
dollars
in
our
funding.
1.1
billion
dollars,
that's
almost
1000x
what
we're
getting,
and
so
what
we
were
trying
to
do,
and
the
time
was
of
the
essence,
is
that
we
were
creating.
These
categories
have
been
discussed
over
a
couple
of
months.
As
we
talked
about
arpa
funding
for
the
city.
N
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
get
a
sort
of
max
number
out
there
so
that
at
least,
if
we
got
to
half
of
that,
we
still
would
be
able
to
get
some
additional
supplemental
funding
for
some
of
the
things
we
do.
Honestly,
we
do
not
have
a
itemized
list
that
says
for
50
million
you're
going
to
get
these
10
items,
but
to
your
point,
that's
a
great
idea
that
this
could
include,
because
it's
supportive
housing,
tiny
homes
in
our
community
buying
hotels
for
supportive
housing,
looking
at
other
property
acquisitions
for
affordable
housing.
N
So
so
these
all
fit
into
that
broad
category,
but
because
we
have
maybe
two
and
a
half
weeks
left
to
get
this.
This
sort
of
concept
out
there
it's
on
a
bigger
macro
level,
for
discussion
to
to
get
through
to
this
legislature
and
and
to
the
council
too.
N
I
am
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
to
add
council
viral
asked
to
see
if
I
could
create
a
little
overview
packet
to
explain
sort
of
what
some
of
those
are
and
I've
been
working
on
it.
It's
not
done
yet,
but
I'm
trying
to
get
something
to
you
guys
as
a
pdf.
So
you
have
some
guidance.
Some
of
these
have
been
discussed
in
previous
meetings,
but
some
of
them
are
new,
and
so
I
want
to
get
some
overview
for
you.
So
you
have
that
as
a
guide.
C
Great
that's
great
to
hear
richard.
I
appreciate
that
it'd
be
helpful
for
just
to
understand
why
we're
requesting
the
money,
what
we're
planning
on
spending
the
money
on
and
kind
of,
have
a
little
more
background
info.
You
know,
as
I
mentioned,
these
are
some
pretty
big
numbers.
My
thought
is,
you
know
given
we're
asking
for
you
know
some
some
of
these
bigger
projects
and
we've
got
the
potential
for
the
the
service
center
at
midtown
campus.
That
was
on
our
prior
list.
Why
is
that
not
on
here?
C
I
think
that
was,
if
I
recall,
there's
25
million
dollars
requested
for
that,
and
I
think
that's
something
we
could.
We
should
add
to
this
list.
If
we're
adding
you
know
20
million
dollars
for
garson,
that
you
know
we
have
the
potential
to
sell.
I
think
that
that
that's
very
questionable
to
me,
but,
but
I
mean,
if
we're,
if
we're
looking
for
investing
in
our
city's
infrastructure.
In
that
sense,
why
not
ask
for
money
for
a
new
city
service
center.
N
N
So
we're
not
necessarily
pointing
this
now
to
arpa
we're
just
asking.
Can
you
consider
those
buckets
for
the
city
of
santa
fe,
their
additional
general
fund,
oil
and
gas
reserves
in
the
soviet
wealth
fund,
arpa
funding,
and
also
the
infrastructure
and
jobs
act?
So
so
they
could
choose
from
anything
they
want,
but
right
now
this
resolution
was
was
being
passed
through
to
make
it
through
the
arbus
civ,
but
it
possible
that
they
could
say
well
for
supplemental
funding.
N
Let's,
let's
try
this
path
from
that
standpoint,
so
the
art,
the
infrastructure
jobs
act,
could
be
where
we
could
look
at
the
community
and
the
city
center
as
a
way
to
say
we're.
Building
a
smarter
city-
and
this
is
one
of
the
ideas
we'd
like
to
put
forward.
C
Okay,
that
that
helps
you
know
I
I
think
with
with
especially
with
our
funds.
I
wasn't
aware
that
we
couldn't
use
it,
for
you
know
governmental,
building,
even
updating
so
to
speak.
I
think
that
there
could
be
that
argument
that
it
currently
is
governmental
buildings,
we're
updating
it
to
make
a
new
service
center,
which
is
going
to
have
an
economic
impact
in
the
surrounding
communities.
I
mean
the
argument
could
be
made.
We
we
could
actually
look
at
that.
C
In
that
sense,
you
know,
I
think,
if
we're
going
to
be
utilizing
this
for
future
lists
for
resources,
I
think
we
should
add
it
there,
and
maybe
we
let's
continue
to
have
the
conversation
offline,
if,
if
maybe,
if,
if
I'm
grasping
at
stras,
if
or
if
there
could
be
a
logical
argument
made,
but
I
think
I
look
forward
to
getting
the
updated
information
rich
on
on
all
of
these
lists,
because
I
do
want
to
learn
more
before
honestly
before
I
can
support
this.
I
know
some
are
pretty
pretty
self-explanatory.
C
You
know
midtown
the
guaranteed
income
program,
but
when
we
get
into
the
the
support
of
permanent
workforce
housing,
you
know
child
care
services.
What
does
that
mean
tourism,
5
million
for
tourism?
What
is
what
does
that
ultimately
mean?
I
think
we
I
want
to
have
a
clear
plan
when
we
go
asking
for
you
know
millions
of
dollars
in
that
sense,
but
but
I
appreciate
the
the
work
that's
going
into
this
and
you
never
know
we
might.
We
might
get
lucky
and
get
get
one
of
these
nine
items
met.
C
We
can
all
hope,
and
hopefully
we
one
of
them
will
come
true
for
us
with
that.
No
other
questions,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Rich.
N
Mountain
chair
and
council
mercy
can
I
ask
one
thing,
a
big
favor
that
we
are
in
a
time
crunch
here
with
this
request,
and
I
understand
that
you
want
to
get
some
data
and
I'm
I'm
working
for
the
capacity
I
have.
I
do
have
something
that
I
I'm
working
on.
I'd
like
to
get
to
you
guys,
but
I'm
looking
for
your
support.
I
want
to
ask
that
question.
N
I
am
looking
for
your
support
and
I
know
that
we'd
like
to
get
it
to
the
legislature
as
soon
as
possible,
and
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
this
to
you.
I
I
could
share
my
screen.
I
can
show
you
kind
of
what
I'm
looking
what
I'm
working
on,
but
what
I
do
want
to
get
you
guys
a
pdf
of
I'm
trying
to
pull
pieces
together
because
we've
put
those
numbers
together
but
they're,
not
in
a
micro
list
that
you
can
work
through,
but
using
your
question:
why
is
it
requested?
C
Okay,
that's
helpful,
I
mean
the
only
reason
I
asked
rich
is
because
I
was
having
a
conversation
earlier
today
and
I'll
go
back
to
supportive,
permanent
and
workforce
housing
development
and
having
the
conversation
regarding
you
know,
working
with
local
entities
like
homewise,
where
they
can
help
with
down
payment
assistance
and,
in
particular
down
payment
assistance
for
they're
right
now.
Looking
at
teachers-
and
I
was
having
a
conversation-
let's,
how
can
we
expand
that
to
first
responders
police
fire,
our
medical
field?
C
How
can
we
work
to
provide
these
opportunities
for
folks
to
stay
within
our
community
folks
that
are
providing
critical
services
to
our
community
and
and
that's
that's
the
type
of
language?
I
think
that
would
be
most
beneficial
if
we
are
going
to
our
our
legislators
to
seek
50
million
dollars
to
explain
to
them
look.
This
is
how
we're
going
to
use
the
money.
C
It's
very
helpful
because
you
know,
as
you
ask
mr
duran.
Sometimes
he
only
has
two
minutes
with
these
legislators
and
they
want
to
know
what
they're
going
to
be
spending
their
money
on.
But
if
we
don't
have
that
answer,
we're
going
to
say
thanks,
but
no
thanks
and
I
don't
want
them
to
quickly
say
no
thanks.
I
want
them
to
say
oh
great
idea,
let's,
let's
continue
this
conversation
and
figure
out
how
we
can
make
this
happen,
and
so
I
I
do
support
this.
I
just
like.
C
So
but
thank
you
rich
for
for
sharing
that
you're
you're
continuing
to
work
on
on
providing
the
additional
information
sure.
A
Thank
you,
council,
garcia
alex.
Can
you
let
councilwoman
vitoria
allen?
I
think
that
she's
having
technical
issues
and
so
she's
in
the
attendees
room
and
rich
while
we're
waiting.
I
will
say
that
regardless
this
did
pass
finance,
so
it
will
move
to
governing
body,
regardless
of
what
happens
here
tonight,
just
dependent
on
whether
it
winds
up
on
discussion
or
consent,
but
it
has
passed
one
committee,
so
you
do
still
have
some
time
to
get
us
all.
The
information
before
that
final.
N
And
I
want
to
add
a
manager
that
I
have
missed
director
wheeler
here
she
can
answer
any
questions
about
any
of
the
capital
outlay
items,
I'm
more
on
the
community
development
and
programmatic
side
and
and
midtown.
So
that's
with
council
villarreal
comes
back.
Maybe
that's
a
question
that
she
has
perfect.
A
I
will
get
on
the
valley
perfect.
Thank
you.
Does
anybody
else
have
questions
while
we
are
waiting
for
councilwoman
vitorial.
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
thank
counselor,
michael
garcia,
for
his
comments
and
really
asking
some
of
these
questions,
because
you
know
with
so
much
funding
that
is
possible.
We
have
a
really
great
opportunity
to
roll
things
out
to
our
community
that
make
a
difference,
make
santa
fe
better
and
and
really
listen
to
our
constituents
and
the
people
who
live
here
in
regards
to
what
they
want
and
what
they
you
know
what
they
need,
and
so
I
I
just
again.
K
I
appreciate
all
the
comments
on
on
this,
and
especially
the
questions
from
counselor,
garcia
and
I'll
continue
to
listen
and
thank
you
go
ahead
and
yield.
N
I'm
chair,
if
I
could
add
something,
but
I
don't
know
everyone
has
refreshed
their
primed
up,
but
council
lindale
put
an
amendment
in
to
put
eight
million
dollars
in
funding
for
district,
led
district
created
ideas
that
could
come
from
each
of
you,
as
as
district
council
leaders.
So
that's
another
area
to
councillor
garcia's
comment
about
how
do
we
get
it
down
to
the
ground?
N
A
Thank
you
rich
and
yes,
we'll
be
discussing
those
amendments
shortly,
councilwoman
vittorio!
No,
no,
no
problem.
Thanks
for
mentioning
it
good
comment.
Can
you
hear
me
now.
D
Loud
and
clear,
geez
all
right,
my
ipad
is,
is,
I
think
it's
working
it's
anyway,
I'm
here,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
some
questions.
Part
of
the
questions
I
had
with
similar
to
counselor
garcia
in
finance,
and
it
was
just
really
getting
those
details
and
understanding
because
a
lot
of
them
we've
seen
well,
I
would
say
them
guaranteed
income.
We
know
what
that
is
early
childhood
care
services.
I
think
what
I
just
want
to
understand
are
these
pieces.
D
So
maybe,
when
you
put
together
that
information
sheet
that
it
can
include
this
for
the
airport
expansion,
we
haven't
spent
past
legislative
appropriations
and
we
requested
what
did
we
request
in
this
legislative
session,
6
million,
or
is
it
6
million?
D
So
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
we're
requesting
another
30
million
to
how
that
gets
operationalized
considering
we
have
past
appropriations
we
have
to
spend.
Then
we
have
this
current
request
and
then
what
that
looks
like
in
terms
of
the
project
management.
R
I
guess
thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
It's
actually
a
really
incredibly
good
time
to
be
getting
additional
30
million
dollars.
We,
as
you
know,
we
are
in
construction
at
the
airport
with
a
21.5
million
dollar
construction
project.
The
designer
of
record
for
the
airport
is
on
staff,
basically
right
now
with
this
project,
and
they
are
ready
to
start
immediately
on
phase
two,
which
is
an
additional
expansion
of
space
of
the
airport.
R
That
will
actually
give
us
our
our
final
configuration
of
our
baggage
claim
in
a
new
restaurant
and
so
they're
poison,
ready
they
they've,
actually
sort
of
master
planned
it
and
conceptually
planned
it
and
they're
ready
to
go
to
get
that
to
the
finish
line
and
then
conceivably.
We
could
roll
right
from
this
phase.
One
construction
right
into
phase
two
construction.
R
That
piece
is
20
million
the
and
then
we
all
really
want
to
have
that
connection
from
the
airport
to
599.
and
that
road
has
been
designed.
I
think
we
need
a
good
update
on
that
and
make
sure
it's
everything
we
want
it
to
be,
but
we,
you
know
we
know
and
that's
a
ten
million
dollar
road.
It
was
about
six
million
dollars
about
four
years
ago
so
that
we
are
we're
ready
to
take
that
money
and
roll
it
right
into
the
airport
and
produce
results
it.
R
R
We
actually
had
to
throw
away
the
design
and
have
a
new
parking
lot
designed
for
the
new
terminal.
We
didn't
really
realize
we
were
going
to
get
funded
for
that,
and
but
now
I
actually
just
signed
a
pay
request
for
about
a
half
a
million
dollars
against
the
1.5
million,
so
that
money
is
going
to
start
going
and
be
spent
really
fast
since
we're
under
construction
already.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
Thank.
D
R
Accident,
that's
correct.
It
would
be
from
that
jaguar
drive
overpass
that
was
built
recently.
That'd,
be
such
a
great
a
little
a
little
road
right
to
the
airport.
D
N
N
We
have
two
actually
food
companies,
but
one
in
particular
that
is
expanding
in
a
way
where
the
city
of
boulder
is
trying
to
lure
them
to
come
to
their
city,
to
expand
there
and
they're
getting
into
all
different
types
of
e-commerce,
freeze-dried
foods,
etc,
and
for
the
past
year
I
think,
and
a
half.
I
have
been
looking
for
different
pieces
and
parcels
of
city
land
to
create
a
manufacturing
space
for
this
food
company
to
expand.
N
I've
lost
one
one
is
down
in
los
lunas,
and
I
have
one
more
left
and
two
of
the
point
we
have
now
at
a
place
where
the
location
over
off
of
599
is
the
least
piece
of
land
from
the
state
that
is
to
be
used
for
economic
development
and
it
has
not
been
developed,
and
so
this
is
my
last
option
of
city
land
that
I
have
that
could
be
used
and
there's
enough
acreage.
There
to
build
this
food
hub,
think
of
it
as
a
manufacturing
building
for
people
to
manufacture
their
products.
N
One
would
be
a
very
large
company
or
expanding
company
to
grow.
The
my
science
side
would
be
another
phase
of
this
project
because
we
have
the
bioscience
companies
in
incubation
at
the
incubation
center,
but
we
want
to
get
the
food
company
up
and
running
so
that
we
are
not
in
a
hard
competition
with
boulder
colorado
to
take
this
growth
company.
That's
been
here
for
the
last
20
years
and
leave
because
we
couldn't
find
a
space
for
them.
N
So
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
I've
been
looking
for
a
space
to
go
and
we
just
have
not
been
able
to
find
an
accurate
space
for
this
expansion
project,
and
now
we've
found
one
and
now
lead
is
up
infrastructure
jobs
acts
up
the
state
has
lots
of
money.
We
have
some
arpa
funding
and
we're
trying
to
leverage
some
of
those
so
that
we
can
accelerate
this
idea
so
that
we
can
bring
those
in
jobs
and
growth
for
food
innovation
so
that
we
can
spur
more
entrepreneurship.
From
that
standpoint,.
N
Yes,
they
would
lease
out
space.
It'd,
probably
be
one
large
business
in
a
couple
of
small
businesses,
but
right
now
there
are
two
other
entities
in
the
city
that
are
working
on
food
commissary
businesses,
so
they
wouldn't
necessarily
be
there.
But
right
now
would
be
a
manufacturing
building.
We
just
call
it
hub
because
there's
enough
space,
there's
40
acres,
so
you
could
build
one
building
and
then
build
another
building,
and
it
just
would
be
a
hub
for
that
industry
sector.
So
we
call
it
a
manufacturing
hub
from
that
sampler.
N
It
happens
a
lot
in
other
cities
of
our
size.
They
use
the
airport
land
for
these
types
of
things,
where
it's
easy
to
do:
distribution
and
shipping
etc,
and
it's
easy
on
and
off,
but
we're
close
to
the
airport.
But
this
is
some
land
that
has
a
50-year
lease
from
the
state
and
they've
particularly
asked
us
in
the
terms
to
make
sure
it's
for
economic
development
purposes.
D
Okay
and
then
the
piece
about
cannabis,
I,
the
amendment
from
council
riveto,
is
to
take
that
out.
So
does
that
mean
I
mean
it?
What
the
land
that
you're
talking
about
is
actually
right
next
to
el
camino,
real
elementary,
so
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
conflict
related
to
the
cannabis
use,
and
so
do
you
know
more
about
or
does
staff
know
more
about
that
amendment.
N
S
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
cassette
councillor
vettel.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
I'm
excited
to
see
that
director
brown's
no
longer
orange.
S
I
spoke
with
council
rivera
today
and
I
think
the
counselor's
point
he
recognizes
that
cannabis
is
something
that's
happening.
It's
going
to
be
an
economic
driver
for
santa
fe.
I
think
to
his
point.
It
just
was
unclear
at
this
point
where
the
location
would
be
and
to
your
point
as
well.
I
don't
know
that
works
been
done
in
accordance
with
the
ordinance
that
you
all
passed
around.
S
N
Correct
and
then
also
to
add
to
that,
we
also
are
finding
out
over
the
last
couple
days,
since
these
meetings
is
that
the
roi
to
put
this
space
in
and
it
was
in
a
phase
spot,
a
project
it
wouldn't
be
sort
of
a
median
in
the
next
year
would
be
further
out
that
the
roi
on
it
is
a
little
higher
than
we
would
imagine
to
bring
it
in
get
it
started,
invest
in
it,
etc.
N
So
it
is
something
where
both
it's
closer
to
a
school
and
two
that
we'd
have
to
figure
out,
not
that
we're
in
the
the
business
of
making
money.
But
how
do
we
make
it
so
that
it
is
lucrative
for
our
our
economy?.
T
Madam
chair
councilwoman
bial,
I
initially
I
misunderstood
what
councilor
rivera
wanted
from
his
amendment,
and
I
don't
believe
that
the
amendment
in
primegov
says
that
anymore.
I
replaced
it.
So
maybe
you
need
to
refresh
your
screen
the
one
there
that
is
there
now
after
the
quotation
marks
after
I
don't
remember
what
are
what's
in
the
quotation
marks.
Let
me
look
quickly.
T
Oh
it's
at
south
meadows
crossing
yeah,
so
it's
essentially
deleting
this
section,
which
is
just
mentioning
south
meadows
crossing.
So
after
it
says,
manufacturing
hub
center,
we're
striking
the
rest
of
the
sentence.
A
Councilman
vandrial,
I
I'm
not
sure
that
the
sponsor's
not
here
to
speak
to
the
intent.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
can
really
discuss
the
intent
of
what
that
is
or
ask
the
staff
to
weigh
in
on
what
they
think.
Council
rivera
was
speaking,
but
as
opposed
to
just
strictly
what
it
does.
In
terms
of
the
resolution.
D
Okay,
I
don't
know
how
to
vote
on
that.
I
mean
I,
I
understood
his
concern
about
it,
but
it
yeah
all
right
well
I'll,
move
on
to
the
next
piece.
I
I
wanted
to
know
in
your
description,
or
maybe
you
have
it
now
is
when
we
talk
about
the
supportive,
permanent
and
workforce
housing
development.
N
Madam
chair
council
bureau,
it's
a
mixture
of
things
and
and
again
these
are
these-
are
concepts
we're
trying
to
get
to
council
garcia's
point
where
you
know
we're
looking
at
sound
bite
like
here
is
what
it's
for
this
is
based
on
this.
So
when
you
think
about
that
that
large
amount
of
money,
think
of
all
those
things
and
gals
garcia
came
up
the
great
idea
of
making
tiny
homes,
we
were
also
thinking.
How
do
we
purcha?
We
could
purchase
hotels
that
are
motels
that
are
going
out
of
business
to
use
for
supportive
housing.
N
I
got
an
email
from
my
director
of
tourism
to
say
why
don't
we
look
for
housing
for
essential
workers
because
they
can
afford
to
live
here
and
they
work
here
so
so
it
could
be
broken
down
in
many
different
ways.
We're
just
saying:
here's
the
high
water
mark
of
what
we'd
like
to
invest
in
and
we
will
we
will
sort
of
iterate
what
we
will
decide.
What
it
comes
through
part
of
it
probably
will
go
to
the
housing
trust
fund
partner
will
go
to
affordable
housing.
N
Part
of
it
will
go
to
workforce
housing,
but
that's
kind
of
a
greater
idea
around
what
the
the
funding
idea
is
about
and
because
there's
so
much
money,
that's
being
looked
at.
We
just
said:
let's
go
with
a
higher
number
so
that
at
least
we
know
that,
even
if
we
try
for
three
projects,
that's
a
big
milestone
for
the
city
of
santa.
N
D
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
early
childhood
services
we've
been
talking
about
this
and
I
guess
I
wanted
to
know
more
about
what
that
would
entail.
And
if
this
funding
is
more
of
a
pass
through
to
provide
non-profit
and
private
sector
partners.
N
Well,
ma'am,
chair,
council.
Very
well,
that's
a
really
good
question.
I
think
you
can
look
at
it
into
three
buckets.
One
bucket
is
passed
through
to
our
our
child
care
provider
organization's
ecosystem
to
provide
child
care.
We
have
a
lot
of
at
home
care,
so
there's
some
education
resources
need,
even
if
we
could
build
a
resource
hub
for
home
care
providers
to
understand
what
the
resources
out
there.
N
Additionally,
we
also
see
that
there
is
a
dearth
of
of
childcare
workers,
so
we'd
like
to
partner
with
an
sfcc
to
do
some
child
care
work
so
that
we
can
get
some
workforce
and
job
training
together
and
then,
additionally,
there
is
the
the
entrepreneurship
of
child
care.
So
how
can
we
spur
homeowner
home
child
care
or
mid-level
child
care
so
consider
that
in
a
three
bucket
aspect,
as
relates
to
child
care,
services
and
workforce
development,.
D
Thank
you,
director,
brown
and
then
moving
on
to
the
garson
film
studios.
So
in
the
previous
resolution
it
talks
about
creating
an
rfp
for
that
that
area
and
that
initiative,
and
so
we're
asking
for
20
million
to
pay
for
improvements
for
that
facility
so
that
it's
more
marketable
or.
N
Increases
our
land
value
and
our
building
values.
So
we
we
want
to
it's
sort
of
like
when
you
buy
a
home
and
you
want
to
fix
up
the
bathroom
or
you
know,
put
some
landscaping
in
the
front
yard.
That's
just
kind
of
what
this
would
be
used
for.
We
have
a
studio
that
has
a,
as
I
said
earlier,
has
a
parking
lot.
N
That
looks
like
a
canyon,
a
couple
of
canyons,
and
so
we
need
to
improve
that
lot,
because
film
productions
would
like
to
bring
their
trucks
in,
but
it's
very
difficult
to
to
park,
and
we
want
to
rent
that
space
right,
and
so
we
want
to
improve
the
area
also,
maybe
acquiring
adjacent
planets
we
have
to
so
that
the
film
studio
rfp
is
much
more
attractive
to
a
a
a
filmed
studio
developer.
Who
would
you
know
want
to
pay
top
dollars.
D
Okay
and
the
5
million
for
the
small
business
local
tourism
recovery,
there
wasn't
any
details
with
that.
Is
there
anything
you
want
to
share
now
or
we
should
wait
to
the
summary
well.
N
We've
been
talking
about
it
in
a
lot
of
ways,
and
it's
also
kind
of
something
that's
coming
up
with
arpa
and
it's
really
more
about.
As
everyone
knows,
the
tourism
industry
suffered
through
this
pandemic
and
it's
just
coming
out.
Some
sectors
are
doing
great
and
some
sectors
are
not.
We
have
a
again
a
dearth
of
workers
in
restaurants.
We
have
restaurants
that
are
trying
to
figure
out.
How
do
they
sustain
themselves?
N
We
have
a
need
for
commissaries
so
that
these
food
trucks
can
come
survive
because
they've
lost
their
leases
in
places
where
they
might
have
done
it
before
so
so
that
all
ties
into
the
tourism
piece
and
mr
randall's
not
here
tonight,
but
that's
kind
of
what
we're
looking
at
is
all
the
all
the
different
elements
of
the
tourism
industry.
N
D
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
the
other
question
about
the
covid.
We
we
talked
about
the
cova
testing,
vaccination,
ppe
and
so
is
that
to
purchase
items
so
that
we
actually
then
administer
those
items.
Whether
that's
home
tests
et
cetera
to
the
general
public.
N
Madam
chair
council,
blue
rail,
good
question,
yeah
think
think
of
that
think
about
funding
is
we
are
not
aware
or
we're
not
certain
that
this
pandemic
has
ended,
so
there
could
be
another
spike
right,
so
this
funding
allows
us
to
be
prepared
way
more
prepared
either
through
outreach
through
materials,
etc
that
we
could
use
for
our
own
city
to
be
prepared,
because
what
we
don't
want
is
another
round
of
spikes,
and
so
this
number
well
seems
like
a
very
large
amount
of
money,
we're
a
city
of
80,
000
and
so
we're
saying
that
it's
a
again
a
couple.
N
D
Okay,
thank
you
and
last
question
on
that
amendment.
From
councillor
lindell,
you
know
we
all
go
yay
money
for
our
districts.
However,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
that
integrates
with
what
what
we
already
have
set
for
you
know
capital
improvements
and
other
projects,
and
does
this
mean
new
project
ideas
will
come
about
and
how
do
we
actually
make
that
happen?
I'm
just
trying
to
like
figure
out
the
capacity
issue
and
prioritization
and
we've
never
actually
had
funding
like
this
before
in.
B
D
Districts
which
would
be
nice,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
if
I
don't
know
if
jesse
has
any
idea
about
what.
D
B
D
How
that
would
work
for
you
all,
because
does
that
mean
then
I
tell
we
we
get
to
tell
you
all
hey.
We
want
to
do
this
project
community
members
like
the
idea,
but
but
you
all
have
this
list
and
kind
of
timeline
of
things
that
you're
working
on.
So
I'm
confused
about
how
that
would
work
like
realistically
as
much
as
I
like.
The
idea.
N
Madam
chair
council
brielle,
that's
a
good
question
and-
and
I
wish
that
the
council
lindell
was
here
to
sort
of
articulate
it
further,
but
I
think
her
her
idea
around
it.
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
her,
but
I
think
her
idea
around
it
was
that
again
the
you
know.
Each
of
you
have
your
ear
to
the
ground
for
your
community.
N
You
get
lots
of
input
from
your
constituents,
and
so,
if
you
think
about
our
presentation
and
the
different
buckets
that
we
had
discussed,
those
kind
of
ideas
could
come
from
you
to
say.
Can
you
put
this
in
the
workforce
bucket?
Did
you
put
this
in
the
child
care
bucket?
Can
you
put
this
in
the
economic
development
bucket?
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
she's
saying
that
that
you,
as
a
district,
a
council
leader
may
say
hey.
N
If
I
can
go
out
to
my
neighborhoods
and
say
I
have
this
much
to
spend
and
I'd
like
to
spend
it
in
these
buckets.
Maybe
you
have
an
idea
that
we
can
pitch
and
then
it
would
be
funded
through
the
whole
eligibility
and
procurement
process,
but
it'd
be
something
that
you
might
bring
into
the
city
and
say:
hey,
can
you
add
this
to
the
this
bucket
or
that
bucket.
D
Yeah,
I'm
still
wondering
because
there's
not
there's
plenty
of
great
ideas
in
this
community
and
everybody
has
an
idea,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
administer
that,
how
we
prioritize
it
yeah.
So
I'm
just
putting
a
flag
on
that,
because
I'd
like
to
know
more
about
how
that
will
work
and
then
how
what
that
does
to
your
time
frame
of
priorities,
you're
working
on
and
capacity
and
project
management.
All.
N
Council
member
chair
council
class
miriah-
I
think,
you're
right,
but
keep
in
mind
that
this,
if
we're
talking
about
this
funding
coming
through
the
our
past
of
the
time
frame
or
arpa
funding
bucket
arpa
has
a
two
to
four
year
time
frame
to
get
in
into
action.
So
keep
in
mind
that
we're
not
saying
if
this
is
an
arpa
funding
aspect
that
tomorrow
this
has
to
go
into
place.
N
It
could
be
something
that
happens
in
the
fourth
quarter
of
this
year
after
we've
already
sort
of
built,
the
capacity
to
to
lay
out
all
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
in
our
bigger
picture
for
arpa.
But
you
know
we
have
a
couple
years
to
implement
programs
that
could
happen.
D
Yes,
thanks
for
that
reminder
that
that
puts
my
mind
at
ease,
because
could
you
imagine
eight
of
us
going?
We
want
this
project,
we
want
this
project,
we
want
this
project,
you
like
this
one,
so
I'm
just
wanting
to
make
sure
we
have
information
about
that.
How
that
would
look,
I
mean
I'm
not
posting
the
idea.
I
actually
like
it
so
I'll
yield
the
floor.
I
think
I've
asked
enough
questions.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Councillor
chavez,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
really
just
have
a
few
comments.
I
want
to
thank
my
colleagues
for
bringing
up
the
questions
they
did.
I
think
it
offered
allowed
rich
to
provide
some
important
details
and
rich
just
thank
you
for
jumping
in
and
trying
to
get
on
that
summary
to
provide
us
details,
and
I
do
think
it's
important,
but
I
did
just
want
to
comment
on
what
I
think
is
really
important
here,
which
is.
I
don't
think
that
we
can
limit
ourselves
in
regards
for
requesting
funds
or
when
it
comes
to
funding.
J
I,
when
I
look
at
this
list,
I
see
the
benefits
in
it
all,
even
without
details.
I
see
how
our
community
could
benefit.
I,
I
think,
that's
pretty
evident
without
details.
The
details
are
helpful
and
I
look
forward
to
learning
more
because
I
think
it
offers
just
great
direction
to
us
on
how
we
could
support
further,
but
in
regards
to
funding,
I
think
it's
something
that
we
just
really.
You
know
we
can't
limit
ourselves.
J
So
I
wanted
to
thank
you
rich
though
you
know,
despite
that
fact,
we're
still
being
so
willing
to
give
us
those
details
today
and
for
working
on
that
summary,
which
I
very
much
so
look
forward
to
looking
at.
So
thank
you
to
staff.
Thank
you,
colleagues
for
bringing
up
those
questions
and
I
yield
the
floor
with
that.
Thank
you.
J
A
You
thank
you
counselor
chavez.
I
want
to
follow
up
with
just
a
couple
questions
kind
of
this
conversation
of
how
much
detail
that
we
need,
because
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly
right
now,
our
primary
audience
is.
We
would
like
to
get
money
from
the
state
and
say
they
give
us
a
bucket
of
money.
A
Where
does
our
ability
to
then
allocate
those
dollars
in
a
more
specific
and
detailed
manner
come
in?
In
other
words,
do
we
have
to
have
specific
projects,
or
do
we
need
buckets
that?
Then
we
can,
through
our
budgeting
process,
whether
similar
to
what
we
did
with
arpa
or
with
our
that
we
are
doing
with
our
dollars
or
through
our
budget
process
that
then
we
get
more
into
the
granular
details
of
specifically
where
these
dollars
go
so
kind
of
deciding
of
or
understanding
how
much
detail
we
need
at
this
time.
N
Councilcast,
that's
a
good
question
and
I
think
that
it's
it's
important
to
note
that
most
of
the
folks
don't
want
a
lot
of
detail.
They
want
to
have
a
headliner
that
says
this
is
what
it's
going
to
be.
What's
a
bucket
is,
if
you
look
at
our
capital
outlay
piece,
it
is
laid
out,
but
it's
very
visual.
N
There
are
a
lot
of
photographs
and
some
detail
involved,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
to
counselor
chavis's
point
is
that
we're
trying
not
to
limit
ourselves
but
at
the
same
time,
in
our
time
crunch
in
this
one
scenario,
we're
trying
to
give
them
some
headliners
to
say
this
is
what
the
bucket
would
fit
into
here's,
what
it
would
fit
in
from
the
standpoint
and
then
on
the
back
end.
N
I
need
to
provide
this
a
guess
group
with
with
some
detail
that
says:
here's
what
the
rationale
for
what
those
numbers
were,
and
so
it's
one
and
two
one
is
get
the
the
the
ask
out
there
and
then
two
is
that
we
can
provide
the
details
to
the
counselors
point
that
each
of
these
provides
some
community
impact
or
economic
impact
to
the
city
of
santa
fe.
That's
the
important
piece
that
I
want
to
relay
to
everyone.
It
provides
community
and
economic
impact
to
the
city
of
santa
fe.
N
A
Okay,
I
I
that
that
partially
answers
my
question.
I
guess
it
comes
down
to
you
know
if
we
do
get
these
money,
for
you
know,
say
the
housing
bucket,
which
we
know
that
there's
all
these
different
programs
by
passing
this
resolution
here,
we
would
not
give
up
our
appropriating
power
to
essentially
say
here's
this
bucket,
and
this
is
specifically
where
we
want
this
to
go
through
the
budgeting
process.
Correct.
N
Yes
mentor
it
will
these
items
will
come
back
to
this
council
and
the
committees
again
before
they're
even
dispersed
through
it.
Aren't
they
well.
I
think
this
they'll
be
discussed
through
the
procurement
process,
but
then,
when
it
gets
the
rfp
and
contract
process,
they
will
come
back
through
for
robust
debate
before
they're
in
an
approval
phase,
these
all
fit
into
the
buckets
we
have
right
now.
N
Most
of
them
do
some
are
capital,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
programmatic,
so
they
will
come
through
this
council
and
committees
again
before
it's
signed
on
the
line
for
us
to
engage
any
vendor
or
partner,
etc.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
That's
I
think
that's
important
and
then
I
guess
the
the
other
part
of
that
question
then,
and
maybe
I'm
not.
This
might
be
a
director
mccoy
question
and
but
what
is
then
our
because
there
is
this
piece
of
responsibility
for
the
state
the
state
has
specifically
given
us
money.
So
do
we?
If
we
are
proposing
programs,
would
we
have
to
go
back
to
the
state
to
get
approval?
That
said,
does
this
fit
in
with
your
idea
of
what
this
bucket
was
supposed
to
be.
N
Chair,
that's
that's
a
good
question.
It's
the
the
the
items
here,
keep
in
mind
that
the
state
has
four
available
buckets,
not
that
they
want
to
tell
everybody.
They
have
four
available
buckets,
but
they
essentially
have
four
available
buckets.
N
This
resolution
was
being
it
was
being
pushed
through
this
process
for
debate,
because
we
were
looking
at
it
from
an
arpa
funding,
standpoint
or
infrastructure
standpoint
with
oil
and
gas
et
cetera
additional
capital,
so
so
the
state
knows,
or
we
ourselves
would
have
to
go
through
an
eligibility
process
for
a
legal
team
and
a
procurement
determination
process
to
get
this
done.
So
these
are
basically
bigger
pictures,
but
they
do,
as
I
know,
of
they
all
fit
into
the
eligibility
that
would
go
through
one
for
arpa,
two
for
programmatic
purposes.
N
Three
for
capital
outweigh
they
all
have
different
sieves
that
they
would
go
through
and
they
would
pass
through.
From
that
standpoint
they
still
have
a
lot
of
more
processing
and
workflow
to
go,
but
they
all
would
pass
through
in
some
way.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
yeah.
I
think
it
is
this
really
fine
balance,
especially
given
the
scarcity
of
time
of
how
we
have
as
much
of
an
understanding
as
we
can
of
these
dollars,
that
we
we
of
course,
would
like
to
go
after
and
really
seeing.
A
These
benefits
the
community,
as
well
as
the
ability
to
really
be
thoughtful
about
how
we
spend
them
our
ability
to
spend
them
and
how
that
how
that
process
would
look,
although
I
suppose
we
kind
of
have
some
experience
with
that
now,
with
the
cares
funding,
you
know
we
get
this
bucket,
you
have
these
items
and
then
we
have
to
go
through
and
and
now
with
arpa
as
well.
A
So
I
I
agree
with
councillor
chavez
that
really
looking
at
some
opportunities
to
bring
down
dollars
is
crucial
and
that
it
is
a
it's
going
to
be
a
balancing
act
of
how
much
detail
do
we
need
right
now,
but
the
most
important
thing
is:
how
can
we
get
these
dollars
out
and
then
we
as
a
council
when
we
have
those
monies
available,
we
really
get
to
have
a
lot
of
those.
Those
more
detailed,
more
nuanced
discussions.
A
Yeah,
I
think
those
are
all
my
comments
for
now.
Councilwoman.
D
Vitoria.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
actually
think
those
questions
were
helpful
because
it's
not
about
limiting
ourselves.
I
was
actually
under
the
assumption
that
the
state
actually
needed
more
details
instead
of
just
giving
them
hey.
This
is
our
pie
in
the
sky
without
having
details
that
we
actually
can
make
it
actionable
that
we
have
the
capacity
that
we
have
project
management
support.
D
She
said
through
the
private
sector,
not
so
much
our
own
staff,
but
those
are
the
things
that
I
think
legislators
would
want
to
know.
Not
because
I'm
trying
to
micromanage
you
all
it's,
because
I
want
to
know
that
we
can
do
this.
I
would
love
all
the
money
in
the
world,
but
when
we
actually
like
get
it
gets
down
to
the
pavement
and
actually
like
making
it
happen.
D
That's
where
I
that
that's
what
gives
me
pause
and
I
thought
actually
legislators
needed
more
details,
so
the
fact
that
you're
saying
that
they
don't
at
this
point,
that's
good
to
know
and
that
we
would
provide
more
details
and
it
would
go
through
the
governing
body
later
on
that
that,
I
think,
that's
helpful.
So
all
those
details,
weren't
added
or
we-
we
didn't
talk
about
that
last
time.
So
that's
that
helps
me
have
like
understanding
of
the
big
picture.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Thank.
N
Reviews
so
for
the
other
buckets
that
may
be
out
there,
we
will
have
to
provide
a
lot
of
detail,
but
I
think,
because
you
know,
there's
a
30-day
session
and
we're
providing
a
resolution
to
sort
of
say:
hey:
can
we
make
a
one-pager
because
they're
all
looking
for
visual
one
pagers?
Can
we
put
a
one
pager
together
on
this,
but
we
need
your
support
and
a
set
a
consent
in
order
to
do
that.
N
But
this
resolution
shows
it
as
a
as
a
headline,
and
so
we
will
we
know
we
need
to
get
to
the
details.
Ultimately,
but
that's
what
was
really
this
first
path
was
to
arpa
and
it
had
to
be
first.
Is
it
eligible
and
from
that
standpoint
we
can,
we
can
get
into
the
standpoint.
A
Thank
you
rich
councillor,
lee
garcia.
K
Thank
you,
madam
cherry
just
you
know,
after
listening
to
all
the
discussion,
it's
it's
a
big
ask
and
it's
a
lot
of
fun
and
I
I
see
all
the
projects
that
are
relevant
and
things
that
are
needed
in
our
communities
and
I
am
interested
to
see
you
know
what
is
granted
after
the
ask
is
is
done
and
it's
going
to
be
interesting
to
see
how
we
whittle
it
down
and
see
where
the
money
goes
and
how
it's
appropriate.
K
That's
going
to
be
a
good
conversation
between
everyone
and-
and
you
know
just
again
looking
at
at
the
funding
and
how
much
is
being
asked
for
at
some
point.
I
don't
know
what
kind
of
possibility
do
we
do?
Are
we
expected
to
use
all
the
money
once
you
receive
it,
and
you
know
we
got
to
look
down
down
the
pipe
down
in
the
future
and
say:
hey
we
run
into
another
situation
like
we
did
now
in
for
covet.
K
You
know
rainy
day
fund.
I
think
those
are
just
things
that
that
come
to
my
mind
when
I'm
looking
at
this
type
of
money.
So
thank
you
for
for
your
time
and
all
the
the
information
that
you've
given
all
yield
sure.
N
But
madam
chair,
can
I
answer
something
that
he
asked
the
question
so
council
garcia?
If
this
money
is
allocated
and
some
of
the
capital
projects
may
not
be
allocated
through
arpa,
we
do
have
a
time
frame
because
the
arpa
rules
say
it's
it's
beyond
2024,
but
if
it's
coming
from
an
oil
and
gas
fund
et
cetera,
I
can
ask
director
wheeler
to
speak
to
that
because
some
of
the
capital
la
may
have
a
perishable
date.
I
don't
know,
but
she
could
speak
to
that
point
from
from
your
your
question.
R
Thank
you
so
much
rich.
Yes,
the
capital
funds
generally
are
required
to
be
spent
within
three
years
in
some
cases
four-
and
I
could
add
that
a
lot
of
the
details
that
we're
desiring
to
understand
about
what
kind
of
specific
projects
would
be
eligible
for
any
particular
funding
that
we
received,
and
you
know
what
kind
of
reporting
or
approval
from
the
state
might
be
required.
R
They'll
we'll
get
a
grant
agreement
generally,
an
in
writing
agreement
that
will
have
the
terms
and
conditions
for
the
funding
and
that'll
give
us
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
know.
Like
the
you
know.
How
long
do
we
have
to
spend
it?
And
you
know
what
are
the
eligible
and
what
are
the
eligible
expenses
against
the
funding?
R
And
typically
we
get
a
lot
of
clarity
there
and,
as
I
remember
from
one
of
our
previous
large
fundings
that
we
got
from
the
state
through
cares,
we
did
check
in
with
them
on
eligibility
before
we
deployed
funds.
We
thought
well,
let's
just
check
before
we
start
doing
this
multi-million
dollar
thing
and
make
sure
they
feel
good
about
it,
and
so
sometimes
with
the
state.
There
is
that
good,
back
and
forth
to
make
sure
that
what
we
want
to
do
is
aligned
with
their
vision
and
the
eligibility
criteria.
A
Thank
you,
director,
wheeler
counselor,
michael
garcia,.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
I
guess
I
just
want
to
speak
to
the
point
earlier
in
regards
to
details
about
about
these
items
and,
and
I
think
they
serve
two
purposes
one.
One
of
the
purposes
we've
kind
of
been
talking
about
the
details.
Did
the
legislators
need
them
or
not?
What
is
needed?
I
mean
ultimately
in
in
my
experience
and
I'm
sure
that
mr
duran
can
confirm
this.
The
more
tea
dells,
the
better
it
helps
them
sell
the
product.
C
It
helps
the
legislator
make
that
quick
decision
in
regards
to
yes,
I
support
this
or
no
sorry.
I
can't
I
think
it's
critical
that
we
provide
mr
duran
with
as
much
tools
as
possible,
given
that
we're
giving
him
you
know
roughly
a
week
to
attack
this
this
list.
You
know
that
the
second
path
of
support
is
it
helps
us
as
the
governing
body
determine.
Is
this
something
we
really
support,
and
we
really
want
to
include
on
this
list.
I
mean
having
a
broad
overview.
C
You
know,
for
example,
you
know
some
of
the
stuff.
We
don't
know
what
it
covers
and
with
so
much
broad
strokes.
There
might
be
different
intentions
by
staff,
but
we
don't
know
or
different
interpretations
by
us.
We
just
don't
understand
and
I
think
that's
where
the
details
come
into
play
for
us
and
understanding.
Is
this
something
I
think
it's
worthwhile
to
ask
the
resources
for
you
know
on
that
point.
You
know
as
if
I
want
to
speak
to
councillor
lindell's
amendment.
C
C
The
door
first
gets
that
and
I
think
that's
where
details
is
critical,
and
I
think
with
with
this
and
with
with
the
opportunity
we
have
with
almost
a
once
in
a
lifetime
opportunity
where
you
know,
we've
got
lots
of
resources
available
coming
at
us
from
all
different
angles.
You
know
I
I
like
the
path,
we're
heading
down
rich
of
having
some
of
these
materials
and
information
ready
to
go
because
it's
going
to
be
critical.
C
You
know
if
buildback
better
passes,
we
want
to
take
stay,
two
steps
ahead
of
the
game
and
say:
look
here.
It
is
we've
been
planning
this
and
you
know
to
to
use
the
words
of
secretary
buttage.
You
know,
we've
been
using
the
word
shovel
ready
a
lot,
but
is
it
shovel
worthy
and
that's
where
the
details
come
in?
Are
these
really
shovel
worthy
projects?
C
So
I
think
we
don't
want
it.
We
don't
want
to
minimize
the
information
and
how
critical
a
role
it
plays,
whether
it's
to
our
legislators
or
to
us
as
the
governing
body
members
as
we're
making
the
decision.
Should
this
list
be
now
10
with
potentially
counsel
lindel's
amendment.
Should
it
be
lessened,
I
think
again,
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
making
smart
choices,
giving
mr
duran
the
tools
he
needs
and
give
making
sure
we're
making
smart
decisions
as
a
governing
body,
but
but
thank
you
rich
and
thank
you
everybody
just
for
for
this.
C
A
J
A
They
you
could
include
a
motion
with
amendments,
but
there
is
a
chance
that
somebody
might
want
to
vote
one
way
on
an
amendment
and
one
way
on
a
different
amendment
and
one
way
on
the
other
resolution.
So
typically,
we
do
a
main
motion
and
then
we
amend
the
main
motion.
I
believe
that
there
is
a
path,
but
our
standard
is
to
main
motion
on
the
primary
resolution.
A
A
D
A
We
with
our
new
rules
we
kind
we
do
need
to
take
them
up.
However,
this
is
the
option
I
was
going
to
give
because
I'm
hearing
a
lot
of
people
not
ready
to
vote
yes
on
them.
If
we
all
voted
no
as
a
committee,
we
would
essentially
kill
them,
although
we
don't
we're
trying
to
get
away
from
that
language,
but
we
would
they
would
not
move
forward.
We
could
move
forward
without
recommendation,
in
which
case
they
would
not
attach
and
they
would
kind
of
float
along
the
way
that
they
used
to
with
our
old
process.
A
A
Okay.
So
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor
for
the
resolution.
Are
there
any
more
discussions
or
questions
about
that
motion,
specifically
not
taking
up
the
amendments
yet.
Q
A
Need
to
first
we
would
have
to
do
the
amendments
okay.
So
if
that's
the
case,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
to
councillor
lindell's
amendment,
which
I
know
that
we
have
discussed,
but
I
will
go
ahead
and
read
it.
A
On
page
three
line,
four
insert
the
following
new
paragraph
item:
seven:
eight
million
dollar
for
city
council
district,
led
programs
to
address
recovery
and
resiliency
goals
at
the
local
level,
including
pathways
to
job
training,
neighborhood,
neighborhood,
quality
of
life,
return
to
work
and
business
productivity
initiatives
for
residents
and
businesses
who
have
been
adversely
affected
by
the
covet
pandemic
and
subsequent
economic
downturn.
A
Councillor
lindell
is
not
here,
but
jesse
is
here.
So
do
we
have
a?
Oh
sorry?
Do
we
have
a
any
questions
or
comments
about
this.
D
D
N
And
madam
chair
council
very
real,
I
did
speak
to
council
lindell
about
this
amendment
and
and
I
hope
that
I
was
able
to
articulate
what
she
was
thinking
but
to
council
mark
garcia's
point.
I
think
her
her
scenario
was
that
it
would
be
a
million
dollars
per
district
councillor
that
you
would
disperse
those
funds
through.
So
that's
what
that's,
how
it
came
to
eight
million
dollars
is
that
it
would
be
one
million
dollars
per
district
councillor.
N
That
would
look
for
funding
ideas
that
would
come
through
the
eligibility
and
the
procurement
process
for
harpa.
If
this
comes
through,
as
opposed
to.
A
Also,
just
I
want
to
correct
myself:
I'm
getting
text
messages
from
the
city
attorney.
Apparently,
the
amendment
could
be
moved
again.
If
we
did
vote
no,
so
we
could
potentially
vote
no
or
we
can
move
forward
without
recommendation
and
they
could
move
it
again
at
another
committee
or
somebody
could
move
it
again.
A
So,
but
still
councilwoman
vitorial
do
you
have
a
motion?
Is
that
a
motion
to
move
it
forward
without
recommendation.
D
K
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
the
discussion
over
the
amendment
to
this
resolution,
which
is
being
presented
by
council,
endow
who
is
not
here,
and
I
believe
so
the
discussion
on
this
would
be.
We
want
more
detail
in
terms
of
how
this
amendment
is
worded.
Is
that
kind
of
what
we're
headed
towards?
Do?
We
put
the
wording
in
there
or,
but
then,
if
you
put
wording
in
there,
you're
changing
your
amendment.
K
So
I
I
think
that
that
kind
of
is
appropriate
to
maybe
ask
for
that
rewrite
of
this,
because
we're
not
clear
on
that.
So
is
that
kind
of
what
you're,
where
you're,
headed
towards
the
counselor
dealer.
D
D
Like
how
that
money,
then
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
figure
that
out.
I
just
wanted
to
hear
kind
of
the
thought
process
about
that
like.
Where
did?
K
And
so
again,
I
think
that
still
goes
back
to
the
discussion
earlier.
In
regards
to
details.
I
know
this
is
more
of
an
ask
and
at
what
point
do
we
have
the
discussion
over
once?
We
have
the
money
in
hand.
How
does
it
work
and
I
think
that's
again
going
to
be
another
conversation?
K
That's
going
to
be
interesting
for
all
of
us
to
have,
and
so
I
I
really
don't
know
where
you
know
it's
still
at
this
point
goes
into
the
initial
asking
point
whether
we
get
it
or
not,
and
how
does
that
go
to
the
next
committee
and
finally
governing
body
and
how
does
that
all
come
full
circle
with
what's
being
presented
to
the
legislature?
For
for
this,
and
I
don't
know
that
might
be
a
question
for
director
brown.
N
Madam
chair
council
garcia,
I
not
really
sure
about
the
legislative
process,
but
jesse
gehen
can
really
easily
walk
us
through
what
the
next
steps
would
be.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
mr
gigan
to
sort
of
talk
through
that.
T
All
right,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
missed
the
question.
I'm
sorry
can
can
someone
repeat
that
for
me.
K
Yeah,
I
I
just,
I
think
that
back
again,
there's
been
discussion
over
details
and
at
this
point,
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
put
together.
The
total
ask
right
of
money
appropriated
to
us
from
the
funding
that's
coming
through
from
the
legislature
and
so
without
getting
too
far
into
detail
of
all
of
these,
we
want
to
know
what
those
details
are,
but
how
does
it
affect
the
the
overall
end
result
of
us
asking
the
legislature
for
this
money,
and
I
think
that's
what
the
whole
idea
here
was.
B
K
The
person
who
wrote
the
resolution
not
at
this
meeting.
T
T
I
am,
I
guess,
I'm
not
entirely
sure
how
that
how
to
answer
that
the
amendment
would
just
be
inserted
and
add
that
I
believe
eight
million
in
there
how
it
would
affect
our
ask
at
the
legislature.
I
think
it's
more
of
a
question
from
mark
duran
than
for
me,
since
he
you
know,
is
the
one
that's
going
to
be
asking
the
legislature
for
this
additional
funding.
T
So
I
guess
I
don't
know
if
that,
if
that
answers
your
question.
K
I
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the
to
the
to
the
next
step
of
either
moving
forward
with
this
resolution
included
in
the
motion.
Or
did
you
just
move
it
on
to
the
next
committee,
and
I
think
that
was
the
discussion
that
we
were
having?
Is
that
correct.
Q
T
Yeah,
I
think
you
have
the
option
of
just.
If
you
want
more
information
about
it,
you
can
move
it
forward
with
no
recommendation.
T
That's
a
good
question
on
if
I'm
not
entirely
sure
of
the
answer
to.
If
what
happens,
if,
if
you
don't
take
it
up,
I
think
maybe
it
may
have
the
same
effect
as
voting
no
recommendation.
If
you
just
don't
vote
on
it
at
all,
that's
something
I'd
have
to
check
with
aaron,
because
I
don't
know
that
we
necessarily
discuss
that.
T
B
Madam
chair,
this
is
elizabeth.
May
I
ask
a
procedural
question
to
clarify
something
I
can't
hold
my
hand
up,
because
the
host
has
taken
off
my
video.
So
I'm
sorry
about
that.
But-
and
maybe
jesse
can
answer-
help
answer
this
question
too.
I
know
you,
you
know,
but
you
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor
to
approve
the
the
resolution
and
I
don't
believe
you
can
take
another
motion
on
the
floor
before
you
vote
on
the
motion
and
the
second
that
are
there
on
the
floor.
B
A
It
just
didn't
seem
to
flow
right.
Okay,
no
problem!
That's
the
question,
no
problem!
So
so
I
I'm
gonna.
Do
you
mind
if
I
take
a
stab
at
clarifying
your
question?
Counselor
garcia?
Yes,
I
believe
what
you're
asking
right
now
is
that
it
sounds
like
we
need
more
information
on
this,
and
so
what
are
our
next
steps?
So
we
can
either
vote
to
send
it
forward
to
public
works
with
no
recommendation,
in
which
case
it'll
just
keep
going.
A
We
could,
if
we
voted
to
approve
it,
it
would
attach
to
the
resolution
as
it
is
written
if
we
vote
to
deny
it.
A
That
depends
on
what
the
denial
looks
like
and
I'm
getting
some
different
information
from
different
people
about
what
that
actually
looks
like
it
sounds
like
it
would
still
float
along
what
councilwoman
vitoria
was
discussing
is.
A
Would
we
like
to
move
this
forward
with
no
recommendation,
because
at
this
point
it
sounds
like
members
of
the
governing
or
members
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
have
questions
about
the
intent
behind
the
amendment
that
really
only
the
sponsor
of
the
amendment
can
properly
answer,
and
she
is
not
here
to
answer
those
questions
so
shall
we
move
it
forward
without
recommendation
in
order
to
have
a
more
robust
and
complete
discussion
on
it
when
councillor
lindell
is
available
for
those
questions?
K
J
Counselor
travis.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'm
just
wondering
on
this
because
I
feel
like
to
get
operational
answers.
The
funds
would
have
to
be
available
to
the
city
councillors
and
they
have
a
plan
on
how
they
would
be
using
those
funds
within
their
districts.
J
So
I
feel-
and
this
is
just
my
thought,
process
and
anyone
could
chime
in,
but
I
would
think
that
we
would
be
the
ones
that
would
determine
operational
needs
based
on
how
we
would
utilize
those
funds,
if
given
those
funds,
so
I'm
sure
counselor
lindell
could
give
us
details
on
how
she
would
probably
use
her
portion
and
how
what
operational
needs
would
be
there.
But
really,
I
feel
like
to
get
down
to
that
operational
level.
It
would
be
funds
in
hand.
J
You
know,
needs
assessment
of
our
district
and
us
responding
with
the
plan
and
working
with
staff
to
get
something
complete
and
utilization
of
those
funds.
So
that's
kind
of
where
my
thought
process
is.
If
I'm
way
off,
because
I'm
just
wondering
like
how
much
more
detail
can
counselor
lindell
give
us
for
how
we
would
possibly
use
those
funds.
I
don't
know
if
she
would
be
able
to,
but
I
will
say
that's
where
my
thought
process
is.
J
Am
I
correct
on
that,
or
am
I
missing
a
piece
so
I
just
I'm
wondering
that
would
be
difficult
to
provide
operational
details.
If
we,
as
counselors,
haven't
presented
plans
on
how
we
would
utilize
our
portion
correct.
A
I
think
I
know
I
can.
I
can
speak
for
myself
and
the
questions
that
I
have
here.
It
just
says:
eight
million
dollars
for
city
council
district
led.
Does
that
mean
a
million
dollars
per
counselor,
two
million
dollars
per
district?
A
It
is
has
kind
of
these
specific
buckets
that
are
putting
into,
and
especially
when
we're
talking,
arpa
dollars
and
the
buckets
and
and
the
qualifications
for
those.
I
know
that
those
are
some
of
the
questions
that
I
have
that
I'd
want
clarity
on
what
her,
what
her
intent
was,
or
is
it
eight
million
dollars
and
then,
as
a
eight
person
city
council,
we're
all
sitting
there
vying
to
like
pull
them
into
our
different
districts.
A
So
as
it's
currently
written,
I
don't
find
that
terribly
clear,
but
not
necessarily
when
it
comes
down
to
brass
tax.
You
know:
do
these
dollars
go,
you
know.
Do
I
get
as
a
counselor
say
all
right?
I
have
a
million
dollars
and
I
want
this-
a
million
dollars
to
go
to
grants
for
businesses
in
district,
four
or
child
care,
for
if
we're
following
me
being
an
example
child
care
initiatives
in
the
city.
So
it's
less
about
how
it's
operational
it's
there,
but
for
me
about
how
it
gets
divided,
councilwoman
vitoria!
D
D
So
this
is
what's
a
little
challenging
me
for
me
for
both
of
those
and
if
you
can't
show
up,
we
don't
you
can't
always
show
up
for
other
committees
you're,
not
part
of,
but
you
can
let
your
colleagues
know
someone
to
be
able
to
have
more
details
to
be
able
to
champion
it
for
you
or
have
more
ability
to
talk
about
it.
So
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
at
I
feel
like.
D
So
maybe
we
should
take
that
route
instead
of
saying
without
a
to
move
without
a
recommendation,
because
they'll
they'll
continue
on
through
the
process,
they'll
go
to
the
public
works
and
then
they'll
go
into
governing
body,
and
then
we
all
will
have,
I
think,
a
chance
to
understand
what
the
reasoning,
what
the
intention
was
for
the
amendments,
because
I
I
mean
in
theory.
I
think
they
both
make
sense.
D
If
I
knew
a
little
bit
more,
I
would
probably
support
him,
but
I
think
what,
in
my
my
opinion
being
on
the
council,
usually
it's
helpful
when
we
get
the
actual
person
who's
carrying
them
in
to
to
be
able
to
talk
to
us
about
it.
So
I'm
I'm
willing
to
move
with
this
current
motion
and
then
let
the
amendments
continue
on
to
the
next
committee.
J
A
And-
and
I
will
say
to
be
fair
in
our
old
process-
you
know
before
we
did
the
updated
procedural
rules.
We
often
would
just
let
them
fly
and
not
discuss
them
because-
and
sometimes
sponsors
would
not
show
up-
and
this
is
something
that
that
I,
I
always
said
we'll
find
out
where
we
made
mistakes.
This
might
be
a
place
that
we
did
not
think
about
this
type
of
scenario.
A
So
I
I
know
that
I'll
be
convening
with
aaron
and
talking
in
more
detail
about
this,
because
we
did
make
the
change
with
the
updated
procedure
rules
that
it
attaches.
So
this
is
a
great
question
and
thank
you,
everybody
for
this
exercise,
and
we
will
continue
to
be
exploring
this
as
we
perfect
our
new
procedural
processes.
So
thanks
for
all,
thanks
for
all
being
part
of
this
experiment,
that
being
said,
would
anybody
like
to
make
a
motion
on
either
of
the
amendments?
And,
if
not,
we
can.
A
A
Okay,
well,
thank
you,
everybody
for
that
exercise
and
thank
you
rich
for
staying
with
us
through
that
exercise
and
jessie
as
well.
I
appreciate
that.
D
Madam
chair,
before
we
leave
this,
could
I
know
that
I
still
would
like
the
details
that
rich
brown
was
preparing,
so
you
know
that,
but
I'm
just
reiterating
that.
Thank
you.
A
You
we
have
no
other
items
pulled
off
consent.
We
have
no
discussion
items
no
executive
session
on
to
matters
from
staff.
A
Thank
you
and
number
eleven
matters
from
committee.
A
Nope,
okay
item
12
matters
from
the
chair
again,
thank
you
for
this
fun
experiment
and
discussion,
and
then
our
next
meeting
is
wednesday
february
16
2022
at
5
pm
and
with
that.