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A
A
You
have
a
quorum,
madam
chair,
wonderful,
thank
you.
So
much
moving
on
to
approval
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
changes
from
staff?
A
A
Thank
you
so
much
and
then
moving
on
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
any
items
to
be
pulled
from
members
of
the
committee
councilwoman
vaderial.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'd
like
to
pull
item
b,
isn't
boy
and
c
because
it's
related
and
I
didn't
get
the
mou
in
time
and
then
item
e
and
that's
all.
A
B
D
A
A
And
if
not,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
second
motion
in
a
second
one,
more
roll
call,
please,
for
the
time
being.
A
Pests,
thank
you
so
much
moving
on
to
presentations.
We
have
a
presentation
from
the
office
of
affordable
housing
using
a
combination
of
regulation
and
city
housing
funds,
both
local
and
federal,
to
leverage
capacity,
support,
affordability
and
increased
supply
of
affordable
housing
in
santa
fe,
alexandra
ladd,
the
director
of
office
of
affordable
housing
is
here
to
present.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
alexandra.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
members
of
the
committee
for
having
me
I
am
going
to
make
a
presentation
that
is
pretty
factual,
but
I
wanted
to
contextualize
it
a
little
bit
because
I
want
to
really
sort
of
put
in
everyone's
mind
this
idea
of
impact
and
the
fact
that
we
may
be
rolling
the
boulder
up
the
hill
very
very
slowly,
but
it
is.
It
is
progress
and
we
do
have
an
amazing
group
of
community
partners
here
and
we
are
able
to
make
investments
that
really
change
people's
lives
and
are
transformative.
E
So
with
that
said,
I'll,
go
ahead
and
get
started
on
the
presentation
and
let's
see
and
happy
to
answer,
questions
as
I
go
along.
I've
also
decided
that
I
talk
too
much.
So
every
few
slides
I've
put
in
a
picture
of
of
one
of
our
local
housing
communities.
Just
just
to
give
you
something
nicer
to
look
at
than
listen
to
me
talk
the
whole
time.
F
E
Yes,
we
can
see
that,
thank
you
excellent
all
right.
All
of
you
know
who
I
am,
but
for
anyone
watching
in
youtube
land,
my
name
is
alexandra
ladd
and
I'm
the
director
for
the
city's
office
of
affordable
housing.
E
I
want
to
just
quickly
start
with
a
reminder
of
what
we
do.
We
are
not
the
housing
authority,
and
I
say
that
because
we
get
a
lot
of
calls
from
people
who
think
that
we
provide
housing
or
manage
housing
or
provide
assistance
directly
to
the
community.
We
do
not
do
that.
E
Instead,
we
have
kind
of
a
three
three
prong
area
of
responsibilities.
First,
on
this
list
is
the
santa
fe
homes
program,
which
is
the
city's
inclusionary
zoning
requirement.
This
require
this.
This
means
all
new
development
has
to
comply
with
this
program,
either
by
providing
set-aside,
affordable
units
or
through
another
form
of
compliance.
E
This
note
in
here,
I
think,
is
for
sustainability
presentation.
I
did
but
sort
of
interesting
because
of
santa
fe's,
very
stringent
building
code,
green
building
code
are
the
houses
built
here
even
just
built
to
code,
not
with
extra
sustainability
features.
They
still
are
much
more
affordable
to
live
in.
In
the
long
term,
because
energy
costs
are
much
much
less
due
to
the
city's
code,
we
also
pass
through
federal
funds
from
the
department
of
housing
and
urban
development.
E
Our
community
development
block
grant
that's
what
cdbg
stands
for
is
approximately
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year.
We
also
administer
affordable
housing
trust
funds.
Thanks
to
the
support
of
the
governing
body,
we
now
have
approximately
three
million
dollars
a
year
to
make
available
to
our
local
partners.
E
Part
of
our
work
in
getting
these
funds
out
into
the
community
is
the
planning
and
reporting
and
accounting
and
monitoring
functions
that
go
along
with
it.
So
there's
a
lot
of
administration
that
goes
along
with
funding.
We
we
do
some.
We
have
some
basic
referral
to
service
and
housing
providers
in
the
community,
and
we
are,
of
course,
like
every
other
department
at
the
city
on
hand
to
provide
research
policy,
development,
community
engagement
and
outreach
related
to
affordable
housing.
E
In
our
case,
I
want
to
also
talk
quickly
about
how
important
our
community
partners
are
30
years
ago.
The
city
decided
that,
rather
than
provide
a
lot
of
services
internally
or
directly,
that
it
would
build
the
capacity
of
community-based
partners-
and
this
was
a
way
to
not
have
to
build
a
huge
bureaucracy,
but
also
this
ensures
services
are
relevant
and
nimble
and
accessible
to
the
people.
E
We're
trying
to
help
because
a
lot
of
people,
don't
trust
government
offices,
but
they
do
trust
a
community-based
non-profit
that
has
helped
them,
and
this
also
means
that
I
or
my
staff
don't
have
to
be
specialists
in
income,
certification
and
all
of
the
other,
highly
specialized
knowledge
and
information.
That's
required
when
we're
working
with
housing
subsidy.
So
these
non-profits
specifically
are
sub-recipients
of
federal
funding
and
they
act
as
pass-through
agents
for
local
funding.
E
So
if
they,
if
the
city
is
funding
a
mortgage
principal
reduction
program,
the
non-profits
will
work
with
directly
with
the
clients
and
then
fund
the
loan
using
the
city's
funds-
and
I
think,
what's
also
important
about
this-
is
it
maximizes
financial
leverage
and
also
private
investment
in
a
way
that
the
city
just
isn't
positioned?
To
do
so?
We
require
in
our
funding
applications
that
applicants
provide
commitment
of
three
dollars
of
funding
from
other
sources
for
every
one
dollar
that
the
city
provides,
and
it's
a
one-to-one
ratio
for
federal
funds
for
community
development
block
grant.
E
So
this
this
creates
that
impact
I
was
talking
about,
so
the
numbers
strictly
from
the
city
may
not
seem
huge,
but
the
impact
is
quite
huge.
All
right.
Here's
your
first
picture,
break
stagecoach
apartments.
I
encourage
anyone
who
is
not
familiar
with
this
project.
This
was
this
came
online
in
maybe
2013.,
it's
just
one
of
my
favorites.
It's
really
amazing.
It
involves
a
remodel
of
an
old
route,
66
motel
that
actually
is
a
historic
building.
E
You
can
see
that
in
the
background
and
then
the
addition
of
these
really
contemporary
cool,
looking
family
town
townhomes
and
it's
fun,
because
it's
a
whole
mix
of
different
architectural
styles
and
it's
also
got
about
a
quarter
of
the
units
are
set
aside
from
for
people
transitioning
out
of
homelessness.
E
So
those
are
the
old
motel
rooms
that
are
part
of
the
lobby
and
the
connecting
building.
So
that's
it's.
It's
also
very
multi-income
all
the
way
up
to
60
of
the
area
median
income,
great
project.
If
anyone
wants
a
tour
ever,
let
me
know
all
right
back
to
words.
I
look
at
the
work
that
I
do
the
city
sort
of
conventionally
in
terms
of
supply
and
demand
the
way
the
city
ensures
supply
the
number
one
way
the
city
ensures
supplies
by
requiring
it
through
our
inclusionary
zoning
program.
E
Inclusionary
zoning
is
also
called
iz.
Santa
fe
is
one
of
the
first
communities
in
the
entire
country
that
implemented
an
inclusionary
zoning
requirement.
We've
been
doing
it
since
1999..
E
The
the
program
has
changed
a
bit
and
been
amended
a
couple
of
times,
but
the
goal
remains
the
same,
which
is
to
encourage
the
development
and
availability
of
housing,
that's
affordable
to
a
broad
range
of
household
incomes.
So
this
is
all
about
serving
that
workforce,
home,
buyer
or
renter.
E
This
is
not
special
needs
housing.
This
is
for
for
for
the
folks
who
just
can't
compete
in
the
housing
marketplace
and.
E
E
To
incentivize
the
supply
we
have
donated
city-owned
land,
the
recent
donations,
slayers
station,
styler
yard
and
very
recently,
635
walter
street,
although
that
donation
isn't
quite
complete
yet,
but
we
also
provide
fee
waivers
and
reductions,
and
these
can
can
be
quite
substantial
so
for
affordable
homes,
application
fees
are
waived.
Permit
fees
are
waived,
capital
impact
fees
are
waived.
A
density
bonus
is
made
available
for
a
developer,
who
can
still
meet
all
of
the
other
code
requirements.
E
So
if
adding
more
units
means
that
the
allowable
lot
coverage
is
is
exceeded,
then
it
then
the
bonus
is
not
allowed,
but
in
cases
where
it
can
be
accommodated,
it
is
also
the
supplies
in
the
water
bank
are
made
available
for
affordable
units
without
the
developer
having
to
bring
them
from
a
different
source,
and
then,
of
course,
we
provide
direct
financial
subsidy
to
development
through
the
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
and
community
development
block
grant.
E
Right
now,
as
of
february
4th
2022,
which
happens
to
be
my
dad's
birthday,
these
are
the
projects
that
are
under
construction.
This
is
about
2500
units.
I
apologize
it's
pretty
small
and
hard
to
read.
I
put
a
red
star
in
all
the
ones
that
are
providing
on-site
affordable
units.
The
green
stars
are
projects
that
were
either
had
an
alternate
compliance
or
our
small
projects,
so
they
don't
have
to
provide
units
on
site.
E
We
have
probably
in
the
approval
pipelines
so
projects
that
have
been
approved
but
aren't
under
construction
as
well
as
the
projects
that
are
in
some
part
of
the
approval
pipeline.
There's
another
about
300,
affordable
units
coming
online.
This
map
represents
under
construction.
I
think
it's
270
units,
but
it
also
it
counts.
Sciler
yard
and
la
rezalana,
both
of
which
are
om
well,
stellar
yard,
has
tenants,
moved
in
la
rosalana
is
still
finalizing
their
last
punch
punch
lists,
but
they
will
be
moving
in
tenants
next
week.
I
think
so.
E
That's
pretty
exciting,
so
the
other
side
of
that
equation.
Of
course,
the
supply
equation
is
supporting
demand
and
how
do
we
do
that?
We-
and
this
is
an
approach
that
the
city
has
taken
historically
through
all
different
parts
of
the
city,
our
human
services,
folks,
our
community
and
youth
folks,
arts,
the
arts,
arts
and
culture,
economic
development.
We
have
we've
done
this
for
for
many
many
years
the
city
has
which
is
to
create
and
expand.
E
That's
supposed
to
be
expand,
not
expend
the
capacity
of
our
local
non-profit
delivery
partners
on
how
the
city
actually
actively
set
up.
Homewise
was
very
small
organization.
E
The
city
really
launched
home
wise
created
the
housing
trust
in
tierra
content
corporation,
so
the
city
has
been
quite
activist
in
building
this
services
delivery
network
and
building
their
capacity
through
ongoing
administrative
contracts
as
well,
and
what
this
has
meant
is
that
a
new
organization
that
doesn't
have
to
fundraise
for
rent,
because
they
have
an
administrative
contract,
can
focus
fundraising
on
the
things
that
funders
want
to
pay
for,
but
also
build
the
cap,
their
capacity
as
an
organization.
E
But
the
other
capacity
that
we
focus
on
is
the
capacity
of
individuals
to
afford
housing,
either
through
being
able
to
access
it.
So
that
would
be
down
payment
or
rental
assistance
or
reducing
the
current
cost
of
housing.
So
that
would
be
providing
a
rental
subsidy.
You
don't
have
to
change
the
rental
amount
if
you've
supported
the
ability
of
the
person
living
in
the
unit
to
afford
the
unit.
E
E
How
so?
How
are
these?
These
funds
that
that
help
with
this
capacity
issue?
How
are
they
used?
This
is
cdbg
can
only
be
used
for
people
earning
less
than
80
of
area
median
income,
so
we
are
allowed
by
the
federal
government
to
set
aside
20
of
the
entitlement
amount
for
administration.
That
sounds
like
a
lot.
It's
so
much
work.
We
could
probably
use
twice
that
much,
but
I
just
want
to
make
that
point,
because
it
does
sound
like
a
lot
for
the,
and
these
are
historic
numbers.
E
These
are
over
the
last
four
years,
but
they
don't
include
the
most
recent
year.
Housing
activities
have
taken
up
the
bulk
of
of
cdbg
funds.
Historically,
almost
80
percent
there,
a
big
huge
bulk
of
that
is
for
the
mortgage
principal
reduction
program,
which
is
we
used
to
call
it
down
payment
assistance,
which
is
easier
to
say,
but
it's
actually
just
allowing
the
buyer
providing
a
soft
second
loan.
E
No
payments,
no
interest
due
that
helps
the
buyer
so
that
they
can
take
a
lower
first
loan
and
that
way
their
their
monthly
housing
payments
are,
are
reduced.
And
so
it's
a
one-time
subsidy,
but
it
actually
subsidizes
that
buyer
every
or
that
yeah
that
homeowner
every
single
month,
because
they
have
a
lower
mortgage
that
they
have
to
make
a
payment
on
public
facilities,
has
been
a
smaller
amount
of
of
our
house
of
our
cdbg
funds.
E
But
we've
also
hud
allows
15
to
be
used
for
public
services
on
the
local
side,
affordable,
housing,
trust
funds.
They
can
be
used
under
state
law
to
serve
people
earning
up
to
120
of
area
median
income.
E
Again,
the
the
majority
of
funds
is
used
for
for
mortgage
principal
reduction,
but
not
by
much
it's
more
evenly,
spaced.
Now
between
that
and
rental
assistance.
E
But
you
can
see
where
we've
the
the
remaining
funds
are
pretty
evenly
distributed.
Just
a
point:
the
affordable
housing
trust
funds
cannot
be
used
for
administrative
or
services
costs,
and
this
is
by
state
law.
So
this
is
never
used
to
support
programming.
It
can
be
used
to
support
operations,
but
that's
different
than
programming.
So
just
just
a
note
and
here's,
your
second
picture
break
seiler
yard,
I'm
sure
everyone
has
driven
by
recently
it's
the
first
100
solar
tax
credit
property
in
new
mexico
super
exciting
and
we
are
looking
forward.
E
We
are
going
on
a
little
tour
tomorrow
to
see
it
for
the
first
time
and
I
I'm
very
excited-
and
it
has
a
set
aside
of
units
for
very
low
income,
renters
earning
less
than
30
percent.
Some
of
these
folks
may
even
be
transitioning
out
of
experiencing
homelessness,
so
they're
they're
again
like
stagecoach,
there's
a
variety
of
incomes
at
the
property,
so
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
the
dollars
look
like.
E
G
E
Wanted
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what,
where
the
dollars
go
because
remember
these
dollars
have
to
be
matched
each
one
of
these
dollars
is
matched
by
three
more
dollars
from
another
funding
source
and
for
different
programs
for
mortgage
principal
reduction.
That
ratio
is
closer
to
1
to
15,
so
just
take
take,
you
know,
do
the
math
inside
your
head
and
you
will
see
that
there
is
truly
when
we
spend
local
money.
There
is
a
very
big
impact
that
goes
way
beyond
just
the
dollars
that
are
going
from
the
city
out
into
the
community.
E
E
Kaya
resolana,
which
is
the
housing
authority
project,
is
a
45
unit,
townhome
project
for
families.
So
this
is
gives
families
a
chance
who
are
living
in
an
apartment,
to
have
a
little
backyard
and
to
have
there's
a
little
playground.
It's
it's
it's
it's
quite
a
nice
little
spot
very
conveniently
located
and
again
the
set-aside
units
for
the
very
low
income
renters.
Last
year,
27
families
became
home
buyers
using
city
provided
mortgage
principal
reduction.
E
E
So
so
what
would?
I
am
use,
borrowing
this
phrase
promising
practices
from
the
midtown
engagement
partners,
because
I
really
like
it.
I've
been
doing
this
work
for
a
long
time
and
if
someone
were
to
ask
me
like
well,
what's
your
advice,
I
would
say
here:
are
the
practices
that
are
promising
and
here
are
the
ones
that
have
worked
for
us
and
that
we
continue
to
develop
and
expand.
E
But
you
know
the
first
bullet,
it
seems
obvious,
but
it's
surprising
how
people
get
very
attached
to
one
solution
or
one
tool
for
addressing
affordability
and
it's
there.
There
isn't
one,
it's
a
whole
mix
of
policy
and
regulation
and
financing
and
political
will
and
lots
of
other
things.
E
I
think
that's
another
really
important
point
and
again,
you
know
the
bureaucracy
doesn't
do
things
sometimes
as
well
as
community-based
organizations,
because
they
can
be
more
nimble
and
responsive
and
they're
more
trustworthy
and,
to
some
extent,
from
a
community's
perspective,
but
also
you
know
what
the
regulatory
framework
is
something
that
we've
developed.
We
we
started
with
something
that
was
so
rigid
that
multi-family
housing
wasn't
being
built
in
our
community
and
and
we've
worked
to
make
it
more
flexible
to
try
to
encourage
the
market
to
help
us
solve
the
problem.
E
The
other
point
I
would
make
is
that
funding
should
be
matched.
You
know.
Governments
should
act
like
investors.
This
is
more
than
safety
net
services.
You
know
we
are
supporting
non-profit
business
models
as
well,
but
it's
we.
We
don't
want
to
be
the
the
seed
funding
or
the
let's
try
it
out
funding.
We
want
to
be
the
last
sort
of
last
funding.
E
How
do
we
close
gaps
in
the
community-wide
response
and
really
being
much
more
strategic
about
how
we
get
our
funds
out
into
the
community
and
as
well
as
our
other
policy
endeavors
a
couple
just
quick
things
from
kobit?
I
think
you
know
coveted,
let's
never
go
through
it
again,
but
boy.
There
were
some
interesting
silver
linings
to
the
clouds
there.
I
think
one
of
the
things
we
realized
was
that
a
coordinated
response
to
a
complex
problem
can
create
opportunity
when
new
resources
are
made
available.
E
So
when
we
had
recovery
funds
suddenly
there
it
helped
us
to
let
go
of
that
scarcity
mindset
where
you
just
sort
of
squeak
through
and
you
you
know
you
try
to
just
get
what
you
can
done.
You
get
done
using
the
minimum
of
resources
and
we
could
change
that
a
little
bit
and
say
no.
No.
What
do
you
need
to
make
this
the
best
program
ever,
and
I
think
that's
that
was
really
quite
different.
E
The
way
to
prevent
homelessness
is
to
give
people
money
and
to
help
them
with
rent
non-congregate
shelter,
which
was
required
by
social
distancing
at
the
onset
of
the
pandemic
was
really
interesting
because
many
people
who
are
living
on
the
streets
or
experiencing
homelessness,
they
don't
want
to
be
homeless,
they
don't
prefer
homelessness.
I
mean
that
is
just
not
a
human
condition
to
not
to
want
to
not
be
sheltered,
but
they
don't
like
the
choices
and
for
some
people,
especially
people
with
either
behavioral
health
issues
or
mental
health
issues.
E
Staying
in
a
congregant
shelter
in
a
big
room
with
a
bunch
of
other
people,
just
is
never
going
to
work
for
them,
and
so,
when
shelters
had
to
reduce
their
densities
a
lot
and
we
were
able
to
set
up
the
midtown
shelter,
there
were
people
who
suddenly
that
setup
worked
for
them
and
once
they
had
a
few
safe
days
and
nights
and
weeks
in
in
that
kind
of
setting,
then
they
were
much
more
able
to
ex
they
were
providers
were
able
to
get
access
to
them
and
offer
them
services
that
they
were
much
more
inclined
to
accept,
which
eventually,
for
some
of
them,
made
them
candidates
for
permanent
housing
options,
and
they
never
had
been
that
before.
E
I
think
the
other
thing
we
realized
is
that
our
data
systems
are
not
very
well
coordinated
and
we
need
to
really
focus
on
how
to
make
them
work
across
agencies.
Otherwise
it's
impossible
to
really
truly
track
outcomes
and
gauge
the
effectiveness
of
response,
because
yeah,
I
can
count
how
many
people
got
help
through
one
of
the
funding
sources,
but
that
doesn't
tell
me
well
did
that
change?
Did
that
move
the
needle
did
that
actually
make
a
difference
in
the
root
cause
of
why
somebody
can't
afford
housing
and
your
last
picture?
E
The
last
slide
here
is
a
phase
three
of
tierra
contenta
tierra
contenta
and
I'm
just
bringing
it
up,
because
this
is
going
to
be,
hopefully
our
next
source
of
a
lot
of
land
for
development
for
affordable
housing.
Currently,
there
are
approximately
23
homes
built
into
contenta.
E
Over
40
are
affordable,
it's
even
closer
to
60
when
you
raise
your
definition
of
affordability
to
100
of
very
immediate
income.
So
that's
those
are
the
first
two
phases.
This
is
phase
three
we're
looking
at
a
minimum
of
eleven
hundred
more
homes,
hopefully
closer
to
thirteen
hundred
just
kind
of
depends
on
how
how
development
goes.
There
will
be
more
park,
space,
more
open
space,
community
amenities,
there's
a
school
site,
which
is
that
big
blue
piece,
but
what's
really
exciting?
E
Is
that
we're
looking
at
how
do
we
bring
back
the
missing
middle
housing
type,
the
duplex,
the
four
plex
the
row
house,
so
we're
we're
trying
a
new
concept
of
looking
at
mixed
zoning
within
a
parcel.
So
there
would
be
a
minimum
density
that
the
parcel
needs
to
to
reach,
and
then
it
would
be
up
to
the
developer
and
the
designer
to
figure
out
could
part
of
the
parcel
be
even
twice
that
amount
of
density
and
another
part
be
half
that
and
then
it
would
average
out
to
the
to
the
mandatory
minimum.
E
But
that
way
it
provides
more
opportunity
to
mix
up
housing
types
because
really
a
lot
of
those
sort
of
more
traditional
kind
of
urban
housing
types
were
the
entry
level
housing
for
a
lot
of
people,
and
our
current
market
doesn't
really
offer
that,
to
the
extent
that
it
was
a
historic
housing
type.
E
A
Thank
you
so
much
director
ladd
and
thank
you
for
being
here.
I
was
really
excited
to
bring
this
presentation
to
quality
of
life
because
I
know
affordable
housing
is
at
the
top
of
I
mean
everybody's
mind
in
this
city
and
and
both
the
traditional
definition
of
affordable,
as
well
as
just
housing
that
people
can
afford
across
the
income
spectrum.
Before
I
get
to
questions
just
one
request,
if
you
can
send
us
that
presentation
that
would
be
wonderful
and
then
councilor
garcia,
the
floor
is
yours.
I
Just
want
to
make
sure
it's
myself
not.
A
I
Sure,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
director
land
for
the
presentation.
I
really
appreciate
it.
I
agree
with
you
and
you
know
the
changing
of
systems
and
closing
the
gaps
is
what's
needed.
You
know
we
need
to
really
have
some
systemic
changes
and
I
appreciate
that
the
attention
that's
going
to
be
paid
to
that
so
kudos
to
you
and
your
team,
and
I
like
that
you
know
tierra
content
of
phase
3
is
going
to
have
that
mixed
zoning.
I
I
think
you
know
with
the
mix
of
you
know
right
now:
it's
either
apartments
or
houses
and
there's
not
much
in
between
and
anything
in
between,
gets
scooped
up
in
a
millisecond
and
I
think,
having
that
availability
of
mixed
zoning.
Hopefully
you
know
the
developers
will
look
at
the
needs
of
the
community
and
develop
and
develop
the
appropriate
housing.
I
I
do
got
a
quick
question
in
regards
to
the
resources
that
have
been,
I
guess
kind
of
attained
through
the
recent
development
you
had
mentioned,
there's
roughly
2500
units
and
on
you
know,
being
developed
right
now
on
the
market
under
construction,
et
cetera,
with
roughly
300
of
those
being
affordable
house
housing.
So
with
that
being
said,
how
what
what
has
been
brought
to
the
table,
then
in
in
regards
to
the
in
lieu
of
fees
that
have
been
collected,
and
what?
What
does
that
look
like
for
the
future
for
the
city.
E
Madam
chair
counselor,
garcia,
the
last
time
I
looked,
we
and
I'd
have
to
update
the
number
for
you
because
I
haven't.
I
haven't
looked
within
this
fiscal
year,
but
as
of
last
fiscal
year,
when
we
graphed
it
out
before
we
were,
we
were
able
to
collect
inlay
fees.
We
would
maybe
get
200
000
a
year,
maybe
400,
but
that
was
huge.
E
That
was
a
big
year
for
us,
but
when
we
graphed
out
our
the
collection
of
fees,
you
know
it
just
kind
of
shot
up
and
so
the
last
time
we
looked
at
it
so
that
would
have
been
for
the
last
fiscal
year.
I
believe
it
was
about
1.2
million,
I
believe
for
for
one
year,
which
is
huge.
I
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
guess
the
reason
why
I'm
asking
is,
with
the
you
know
the
fire
hot
market
housing
market
that
we
currently
have.
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
if
we
stick
with
this
in
the
la
fee
that
it's
actually
comparable
to
what
the
market
demand
is
currently
in
the
sense
that
you
know,
I
think,
even
earlier
this
week,
you
know
can't
find
a
house
under
400
dollars
in
this
city
anymore
and
with
that
being
said,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
you
know
we
stick
with
this
model
of
venlu
fees,
it's
reflective
of
us
collecting
what
is
comparable
to
providing
appropriate
supports
to
the
community,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
not
a
loophole
so
to
speak,
for
folks
to
say
well,
instead
of
providing
x
amount
of
affordable
housing
units,
we're
just
going
to
provide
this
nominal
and
lula
fee,
which
you
know
which
was
developed.
I
What
two
years
before
the
mark,
the
housing
market
exploded,
and
I
mean
it's
it's
the
way
the
market
is
now:
it's
not
slowing
down.
It's
it's
only
getting
crazier
and
I'm
going
to
make
sure
that
this
in
lua
fee
program
is
consistent
with
the
trends
in
the
housing
market
that
we
see
now.
So
I
don't
know
if
I
guess
I
don't
know,
if
you
have
any
insight
to
that,
are
we
kind
of
in
alignment
are
we?
I
Should
we
re-look
at
that
again,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
doing
our
best
to
provide
affordable
housing
to
the
residents
of
santa
fe.
You
know
in
any
which
way
we
can.
I
think
that's
one
of
our
top
priorities
right
now,
so
any
I
mean
don't
need
to
necessarily
get
a
response.
Now
we
can
carry
this
conversation
offline,
but
I
think
something
I've
been
interested
in
just
as
this
housing
market
has
been
exploding.
E
E
E
So
if
we
had
and
not
all
of
the
the
units
under
shown
on
that
map,
under
construction
or
multi-family,
of
course,
but
you
know
we're,
we
are
we're-
we're
doing
we're
focusing
on
pro
on
subsidizing
the
provision
of
affordable
housing
directly
through
the
use
of
the
fees.
Of
course,
they
go.
They've
been
raised,
rising
20
every
year
on
july
1.,
so
they
will
rise.
Another
20
percent,
but
I
think
it's
we're
trying
to
also
we've
made
our
regulation
a
little
bit
more
flexible
to
try
to
encourage
developers.
E
It
was
very
complicated
before
because
they
had
to
have
three
different
income
ranges
and
three
different
rent
restrictions
and
and
a
market
a
property
owner
doesn't
know
how
to
do
income,
certifications.
They
don't
you
know
they
don't
work
with
subsidized
runners,
they
don't.
That
is
not
what
they
do.
So
what
we
tried
to
do
was
just
make
it
much
more
simple:
make
it
closer
to
the
market
rate,
but
just
below
market
and
really
to
allow
them
to
focus
on
a
workforce
venture.
E
And-
and
we
know
also
just
from
from
the
data
that
the
folks
who
are
at
the
renters
with
much
lower
incomes,
their
outcomes
are
are
much
better
when
they
live
at
a
property
that
is
100,
affordable
and
has
wraparound
support
services
available
for
them.
If
they
need,
it
has
much
clearer
access
to
ways
to
get.
Subsidy
generally
has
more
kids,
you
know,
or
they
have
a
very
good
sense
of
community
people
share
resources.
E
You
know
it's
it's
a
lot
that
the
long-term
permanence
outcomes
are
are
much
better
for
folks
at
100,
affordable
properties
for
the
very
low
income.
Folks,
I'm
not
talking
about
a
workforce
renter
who
just
can't
afford
rent.
That's
that's
a
different
person.
E
Counselor
garcia,
I
would
have
to
do
the
math
on
that.
It's.
I
I
Sure
I
mean
not
not
now
I
mean
if
you
can
pass
that
along
in
in
time,
that'd
be
awesome
just
to
kind
of
get
a
feel
of.
You
know
how
the
and
lua
feed
program
is
working
out.
You
know,
what's
currently
being
developed
and
out
of
that
development,
which
is
home
ownership.
What
is
rental-
and
you
know,
I
think
we
wanna
start
staring
towards
providing
folks
opportunities
to
have
home
ownership
ownership
and
that
you
know-
and
I
think
that
can
be
various
spectrums.
I
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
counselor
and
counselor,
michael
garcia.
If
you
could
take
your
hand
down
that'd,
be
lovely.
Thank
you.
Counselor
lee,
garcia,
floor's,
yours.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
have
one
question
for
you,
so
in
your
presentation
you
mentioned
government
should
act
as
investors,
and
so
what
does
that
look
like
from
the
standpoint,
maybe
top
one
or
two
ways
that
we
invest
into
this,
because
you
know,
obviously
you
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
matching.
You
know
monies
three
to
one
certain
certain
things
such
as
that,
but
what
does
what
is
us
as
investors?
What
does
that
mean
from
this?
From
this
perspective,.
E
Madam
chair
counselor,
garcia.
The
concept
is
that
much
like
I
don't
know.
If
you've
heard
the
term
impact
investing
it's
sort
of
what
the
foundations
are
are
really
excited
about,
because
what
it
does
is.
It
raises
private
capital
from
individuals
or
other
organizations
that
are
interested
in
in
in
having
a
return
on
an
investment,
but
taking
a
lower
return
on
the
investment
in
in
order
to
produce
a
social
or
public
good.
And
so
when
we
look
and
obviously
with
city
funds,
it's
a
little
bit
different.
E
But
the
idea
is
that
we're
looking
at,
for
instance,
at
seiler
yard,
the
donation
of
that
land
was
valued
at
1.3
million
dollars.
But
what
that
enabled
the
developer
to
do
was
to
show
that
commitment
from
the
local
government
in
their
application
for
the
tax
credit
subsidy.
So
it's
an
eight
and
I'm
making
this
number
up
it's
somewhere
around
here.
But
let's
say
it's
an
18
million
dollar
project,
so
the
construction
cost
of
that
project
so
that
1.3
million
dollar
investment
of
the
cities
leveraged
a
huge
amount
of
funding
into
the
community.
E
Even
just
if
you
just
look
at
the
short-term
impact
of
that
kind
of
economic
activity,
but
then
your
res,
it
results
in
a
property
that
offers
a
subsidized
rent
to
rent
restriction
to
people
for
the
next
40
years.
So
it's
sort
of
this
idea
that
it's
not
just
a
one-time.
Oh
let's
just
fix
the
problem.
Today,
it's
really
looking
at
how
do
you
build
both
the
capacity
but
also
the
it's
a
return
on
investment
right,
and
it
also
works
on
an
individual
level,
for
instance.
E
So
let's
say
that
without
that
loan
they
had
to
have
a
1500
mortgage,
but
that
loan
enabled
them
to
they
won't.
They
didn't
have
to
borrow
as
much
so.
Their
mortgage
instead
is
twelve
hundred
dollars.
Well,
that's
a
three
hundred
dollar
subsidy
every
month
for
30
years
for
that
that
household.
So,
but
it's
not
all
that
much
money
up
front.
It's
just
invested
in
a
way
that
creates
this
long-term
benefit.
D
Thank
you
so
so
that
being
said,
that's
from
the
perspective
of
maybe
purchasing
land
and
donating
it
to
organizations
that
are
going
to
build
affordable
units.
Correct.
D
What
would
be
another
tool
that
we
are
currently
utilizing
or
are
looking
at
utilizing
other
than
just
land
gifting
of
land.
E
Madam
chair
councilman,
garcia,
we,
I
think
in
my
presentation
I
was
I
tried
to
kind
of
in
big
categories,
show
how
the
funds
support
the
community,
so
something
like
rental
assistance
is
also
very
impactful,
because
we
know
that
stabilizing
somebody's
housing
situation
with
a
monthly
subsidy
for
a
certain
amount
of
time
is
much
more
cost
effective
than
that
person
losing
their
housing
and
experiencing
homelessness
and
then
having
to
be
served
with
emergency
services,
or
perhaps
that
leads
to
a
whole
other
set
of
issues
for
that
individual.
So
the
rental
assistance
is
really
important.
E
D
And
and
just
kind
of
going
back
towards
that-
and
you
know
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
the
balance
of
income
generating
investments
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
create
this?
The
the
money
that's
being
used
to
buy
the
land
to
either
donate?
Where
are
we
getting
the
income
from?
Is
it
part
of
the
fiance?
Is
it
coming
in
from
gross
receipts
taxes?
Is
it
coming
in
from
federal
grants?
D
E
Madam
chair
counselor,
garcia,
you're
right,
the
revenue
comes
from
those
fees
that
are
paid.
The
revenue
also
comes
from
the
commitment
that
this
governing
body
has
made
to
support
the
trust
fund.
So
you'd
have
to
ask
our
finance
director
specifically
how
that
cash
comes
through
the
city's
budget,
but
it
is
I
I
don't
even
know
if
we'd
say
it
was
gross
receipts,
but
anyway
it
is
coming.
Some
of
it
is
coming
from
the
general
fund.
E
E
There
was
a
lien
placed
on
that
home
in
the
amount
of
fifty
thousand
as
an
affordability
control
to
make
sure
that
the
that
the
home
wasn't
sold
for
a
windfall
profit,
and
so
when
the
home
is
sold,
we
always
do
our
best
to
help
the
home
buyer
get
connected
with
another
income
certified
home
buyer
so
that
the
that
fifty
thousand
dollar
subsidy
it's
essentially
becomes
a
subsidy-
can
be
provided
to
the
new
buyer,
but
sometimes
that
doesn't
work
out.
And
so
in
those
cases
the
lien
is
paid
back
to
the
city.
D
Thank
you
and
again
I
just
sustainability,
making
sure
that
our
program
is
being
funded
and
how
do
we
get
the
best
use
out
of
it
by
being
fiscally
responsible
with
our
money?
Where
is
it
coming
from?
How
are
we
spending
it,
and
so
it's
just
kind
of
my
two
cents
and
I
appreciate
the
questions
and
answers.
Why
yield
the
floor?
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman
vaderial.
The
floor
is
yours.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
director,
ladd,
and
I'm
always
amazed
by
the
diligence
of
the
office
of
affordable
housing.
They
do
a
lot
with
limited
funding
and
then,
in
some
cases,
limited
capacity,
although
that's
increasing
now
with
new
staff,
and
I
think
we'll
need
to
increase
that
capacity
of
that
department.
As
things
start
changing
and
as
funding
actually
gets
funneled
through
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
I
think
there's
more
of
a
need
to
be
able
to
in
order
to
get
that
out
the
door.
C
We
also
need
support
for
our
city
staff
in
this
department.
So
thank
you
for
your
work.
We
just
had
a
community
development
commission
meeting
right
before
this
and
we
had
a
presentation
by
the
santa
fe
housing
coalition
and
pretty
bleak
outlook.
C
I
mean
this
was
a
very
optimistic
like
the
things
that
we
have
done
and
the
importance
of
it
and
then
the
other
flip
side
is
like
the
current
conditions,
and
actually
this
has
been
in
historic
circumstances
that
we've
been
dealing
with
in
our
city
and
now
we're
in
this
another
another
phase
of
displacement.
And
so
what
was
disheartening
to
me?
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
were
presented
about
that,
but
you
know
we
we
keep
talking
about.
C
I
mean
I
see
the
benefit
of
the
of
the
funds
we
use
for
in
the
fee
in
lieu
of,
and
it
definitely
helps
folks
that
are
needing
mental
assistance
down
payment
assistance,
there's
a
whole
gamut
of
things
and
then
simultaneously
simultaneously
we're
seeing
that
out
there
that
there's
not
a
housing
stock
for
people
to
even
consider
and
so
the
housing
stock.
I
think.
Didn't
you
see.
The
vacancy
alex
was
two
percent
in
santa
fe.
E
Madam
chair
council,
via
real,
I
think
it's
much
lower
than
that.
Actually,
the
last
time
they
cbre
did
a
rental
market
study.
It
was
functionally
zero.
It
wasn't
there
was,
I
think
it
was
less
than
one
percent
or
something
crazy,
which
is
just
reflecting
turnover
of
units.
It's
not
actual
vacancy.
C
Yeah
so
that
fact
worries
me
even
if
we
are
able
to
have
these
opportunities
for
people
to
have
rental
assistance,
there's
nowhere
to
utilize
them,
except
for
people
that
are
in
current
housing,
there's
no,
not
as
enough
housing
stock.
In
my
opinion
and
then
when
we
looked
at
the
numbers,
alex
broke
it
down
for
us
or
actually
in
the
prison.
C
I
think
it
was
in
the
presentation
it
totaled
to
around
if
you're,
if
you
added
in
the
those
that
are
being
constructed
and
then
those
are
in
the
approval
phase,
it
still
was
around
3
000
units,
and
so
it
was
only
300
000,
affordable
units.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
I'm
just
worried
about
how
we
get
actual
units
online,
especially
affordable
units,
and
I
think
tiara
content
of
the
phase
three
will
help.
C
I
guess
I'm
just
of
the
mindset
and
I'm
just
leading
to
my
colleagues
that
when
we
start
looking
at
city
land,
unless
we
have
major
debt
service-
sorry
not
dead
service,
but
we
have
debt
on
it
like
we
do
here
at
midtown,
that's
a
different
scenario,
but
when
we
have
land
available
I
think
we
should
do
our
utmost
to
try
to
donate
it
or
in
some
way
collaborate
with
our
affordable
housing
partners.
C
We
have
such
great
ones
in
santa
fe
compared
to
you
know,
other
cities,
don't
even
have
that
so
that
partners,
that
partnership
is
crucial,
and
I'm
just
wanting
to
just
stress
that
I
think
the
we
haven't
prioritized
that
enough.
I
think
we
talk
about
it,
but
I
think
we
just
have
to
do
it.
We
have
to
donate
more
land.
C
We
don't
have
much
anyway,
but
I
just
think
that
that's
an
important
piece
to
add
to
the
to
the
mix,
and
then
I
I
had
a
question
alex
for
you
were
talking
about
fee
waivers
and
reductions.
One
of
them
listed.
I
think
it
said
impact
fees.
C
E
C
I
know
we
just
had
that
resolution
that
upped
it,
but
I
I
guess
I
want
to
understand
what
that
looks
like
and
the
administrative
side
of
things
that
you
have
to
go
through
alex
and
then
I
don't
know
I
think
it's
more
complicated
I
would
maybe
offline.
They
can
talk
to
you
about
it,
because
I
really
don't
understand
it.
It
seems
yeah.
C
I
just
I
think,
there's
I
I
guess
I
just
would
like
to
know
more
how
that
what
that
looks
like
and
what
it,
what
what
it
looks
like,
how
it
would
work
or
how
it
works
now,
and
maybe,
if
there's
a
way
to
improve
the
process,
I'm
not
sure.
I
guess
I
had
more
comments.
I
don't
really
have
any
more
questions.
I
just
appreciate
the
work
that
we
have
going
on
in
the
office
of
affordable
housing
and
the
work
that
alex
does
daily.
A
You
thank
you
so
much
councilwoman
councillor,
travis.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
director,
ladd.
I
every
time
I
hear
you
speak,
I'm
just
in
such
appreciation
for
your
commitment,
passion
and
advocacy,
and
I'm
just
have
a
comment
because
I
heard
you
say
that
you're
going
to
do
a
tour
of
seiler
yard-
and
I
did
that
probably
a
month
ago
and
I'd
love
to
connect
with
you
after
because
their
whole
process
their
donated
land.
G
But
when
you
hear
the
complexity
that
comes
with
it
in
regards
to
inflation
and
having
to
really
have
community
input,
a
targeted
population
like
really
they
created
a
perfect
formula
and
even
with
the
perfect
formula,
ran
into
a
lot
of
difficulty.
So
you
know
we
talk
about
affordable
housing,
housing
and
even
with
land
donation.
It's
quite
more
complex
than
any
of
us
have
really
understand
until
we
communicate
with
the
developer
and
so
that
whole
experience
of
everything
that
went
into
that
so
like
it
was
a
community
driven
targeted
population.
G
So
they
were
able
to
make
units
to
fulfill
the
need
of
the
population
they
were
serving
which
made
it.
So
they
only
paid
attention
to
those
details
that
served
that
population
and
they
cut
costs.
That
way,
but
they
have
like
a
community,
that's
also
the
support
system
and
almost
the
wraparound
service
for
all
of
the
tenants
there,
but
affordability
and
sustainability
all
the
way
down
to
their
laundry
room
like
their
they
had
they
bought
like
washers
and
dryers
from
europe.
That
would
just
make
were
cost
efficient
overall,
so
it
was.
G
I
really
do
believe
that
we
need
to
have
a
target
population
that
we're
trying
to
serve
to
truly
have
like
sustainable
housing,
where
we
could
actually
cut
costs
but
still
meet,
needs
and
really
dive
deep
into
that.
I
loved
that
concept,
but
I
just
wanted
to
want
to
thank
you
for
your
work
and
second
request
that
we
could
meet
after
you
do
that
tour.
G
A
A
Both
with
the
need
and
the
purpose
as
well
as
we
know
that
the
resources
are
constrained
and
as
councilwoman
vitoria
had
mentioned,
I'm
very
very
happy
that
you
guys
are
getting
some
more
stuff
that
you
are
getting
some
more
stuff,
as
as
you
really
need
it,
and
I
I
do
want
to
recognize
and
for
the
public
to
really
know
how
much
time
and
effort
you
put
in
and
it
is
astronomical
and
it
is,
you
can
really
see
that
it
is
a
work
of
passion.
So
thank
you.
A
One
thing
that
I
I
was
hoping
you
could
spell
out
a
little
bit
more.
You-
and
I
have
talked
about
this-
a
lot
that
there
is
a
good
amount
of
not
full
understanding
of
what
our
inclusionary
zoning
policy
looks
like,
and
so,
even
today
you
know
a
couple.
Things
came
up
so
in
as
well
as
you
can
with
you
know
this
meeting
without
you
know,
reading
the
full
ordinance
if
you
could
just
provide
an
overview
of
precisely
what
it
means
for
inclusionary
housing
or
inclusionary
zoning
who
has
to
provide
it.
A
Who
can
pay
a
fee
in
lieu
who
doesn't
have
to
provide
it?
What
does
this
look
like?
That?
Would
that
would
be
wonderful.
E
E
In
short,
so
inclusionary
zoning
means
exactly
what
the
name
says
and
include
affordable
units
on
the
home
ownership
side.
The
requirement
is
20
of
the
units
have
to
be
priced.
According
to
a
pricing
schedule,
that's
based
on
three
different
income
tiers,
the
most
affordable
tier
is
for
the
home
buyer
earning
from
65
to
80
of
the
area
median
income,
the
next.
No.
I
did
that
wrong.
It's
50
to
65
percent,
the
middle
tier
is
65
to
80
percent,
and
the
top
tier
is
80
to
100
percent.
E
We
have
an
exception
for
essential
workers.
They
can
earn
up
to
120.
E
So
an
essential
worker
is
defined
as
public
health,
public
safety,
educational
worker
and
they
are
allowed
to
earn
slightly
more
than
that
top
limit
and
and
still
be
able
to
buy
a
home
in
a
property
that
is
developed
by
a
for-profit
private
market
developer,
and
so
the
developer
will
partner
with
either
homewise
or
the
housing
trust
or
sometimes
both
and
they
in,
in
addition
to
the
fee
waivers
and
the
reductions
that
the
city
provides,
they
are
partnered
up
with
with
one
of
the
non-profits
so
that
when
the
home,
when
they've,
you
know
built
the
tier
two
three-bedroom
home.
E
According
to
the
pricing
schedule,
they
just
pick
up
the
phone
and
say
I
got
it's
ready
to
go
under
contract
and
they
have
mortgage-ready
buyers
pretty
much
handed
to
them.
So
they
also
get
a
reduction
in
their
marketing
costs,
which
is
sometimes
very
helpful.
They
almost
never
have
the
deals
almost
never
fall
through
because
the
home
buyers
are
so
carefully
trained
and
vetted
and
and
they've
been
approved
for
different
kinds
of
subsidy,
which
I
mean
it's
harder.
E
It
is
harder
to
be
approved
for
that
kind
of
of
help,
and
part
of
the
job
of
the
nonprofits
is
to
also
tell
somebody
you're
not
quite
ready
to
buy
a
home.
You
know
you
need
to
pay
off
some
debt
or
or
fix
your
credit
and
then
you'll
you'll
get
a
you.
You'll
get
a
much
better,
more
affordable,
long-term
mortgage,
so
so
that's
kind
of
how
it
works
in
the
home
ownership
side,
which
is
again
simple,
because
the
loss
for
the
private
market
developer
is
taken
up
front.
E
So
they
know
that
it's
going
to
cost
200
000
to
build
the
house
and
that
they,
the
top
price,
to
sell
it.
I'm
using
very
round
numbers,
of
course,
just
because
the
math
is
easier
and
they
have
to
sell
it
for
150
000.
So
they
know
that
they
have
a
50
000
loss
and
they
can
work
that
into
all
of
their
development
performance
and
their
financing
and
get
tax.
Write-Offs-
and
you
know
it's
it's,
and
then
it's
offset
by
the
incentives.
E
In
addition
to
all
of
the
operating
costs
for
the
property
and
the
maintenance
and
all
the
contingency
and
the
management
costs
and
watering
the
landscaping
and
all
of
those
things
that
go
into
maintaining
a
property,
they
have
debt
service,
they
have
to
be
able
to
pay
off
their
debt
service,
and
so,
if
they
don't,
if
they
are
showing
a
loss
on
15
of
their
units,
their
bank
is
like.
No
thank
you,
because
how
do
we
know
you're
gonna
be
able
to
pay
back
your
loan?
So
it's
kind
of
a
reverse.
E
The
financing
is
done
almost
on.
You
have
to
demonstrate
as
a
as
a
rental
property
that
you
can
make
money
before
you
can
get
the
loan
to
build
it.
So
that's
why
we
were
sort
of
stuck
for
10
years,
almost
with
for-profit
rental
developers,
market
rate
developers
saying
we
we
can't,
we
can't
do
it
in
santa
fe.
E
We
can't
touch
santa
fe,
because
a
lot
of
other
things
are
more
expensive
on
top
of
that,
and
then
we
have
our
this,
this
restriction,
so
the
the
focus
on
our
recent
amendments
was
to
try
to
make
that
simpler
and
to
say
you
know
you
are
you
market
rate
property
owner
know
how
to
manage
property.
E
So
we
will
create
a
way
for
you
to
have
a
rent
restriction,
but
it's
at
a
much
higher
level.
So
it's
closer
to
the
market
rate,
but
it's
still
a
restriction.
It's
still
tied
to
federal
data
so
that
it
can't
be
the
rents
can't
be
raised
speculatively
or
in
response
to
the
market.
They
have
to
be
tied
to
an
income
statistic,
so
that's
so
we're
trying
really
hard.
E
We've
got
a
couple
of
projects
that
are
moving
forward
with
providing
some
on-site
units,
and
so
you
know
we'll
be
inventing
the
wheel
as
we
go
along,
but
I
think
we'll
probably
learn
from
the
first
couple
projects
what
works
and
what
doesn't
and
we'll
amend
the
ordinance
and
make
it
better.
For
next
time.
A
Thank
you,
director
ladder.
I
know
that
it's
definitely
something
that
I've
heard
from
constituents
that
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
questions
and,
as
you
said,
it's
quite
complex
and
so
definitely
recommend
any
any
members
of
the
public
that
are
listening
to
you
know.
G
A
A
look
and
read
this
well,
it
is
in
legalese,
but
you
know
being
able
to
really
understand
this
and
and,
as
you
said,
we
are
still
experimenting,
and
I
really
do
appreciate
the
willingness
to
continue
to
evolve
this
program
and
to
improve
upon
it
as
we
learn
new
things.
A
The
other
thing
that
I'm
interested
in
is
we
especially
when
we
talk
about
individuals
experiencing
homelessness.
We
talk
about
them,
basically
moving
through
the
spectrum
of
housing
and
I'm
curious
if
we've
had
any
opportunity.
Yet
if
there's
any
non-profits
that
are
looking
at,
for
example,
individuals
that
are
receiving
rental
assistance
and
how
that
might
impact
their
housing
trajectory
throughout.
You
know
their
housing
lifespan,
as
opposed
to
similar
residents,
who
maybe
did
not
have
access
to
that
rental
assistance
or
when
it
weren't
able
to
find
a
unit.
A
I
I
know
that's
kind
of
a
it's
a
longitudinal
study,
it's
a
kind
of
a
heavy
lift,
but
I
would
be
really
curious
to
hear
about
what
that
impact
really
starts
to
look
like
for
an
individual
even
outside
the
time
that
they're
living
within
that
unit.
If
they
manage
to
leave
that
unit,
if
they
do
leave
it.
E
And
I
I
like
the
question
so
much
because
I
think
it
gets
at
what
is
the
real
issue.
How
do
we
know
which
interventions
work?
You
know
how
do
we
know
which
ones
transform
somebody's
life
and
therefore
transform
you
know
our
society
and
and
address
what
the
the
cause
of
the
unaffordability
is
versus,
just
just
while
keeping
them
housed
this
week
or
this
month,
and
I
think
it's
also
very
complicated,
and
this
is
where
it
would
be.
E
It
would
be
great
to
continue
our
close
work
with
economic
development,
but
that's
another
way
to
build
capacity,
for
somebody
to
afford
housing
is
to
create
an
opportunity
for
them
to
have
a
higher
income,
and
so
you
know
that
goes
hand
in
hand
with
all
the
work
that
our
economic
development
folks
are
doing
as
well.
A
Yeah,
absolutely
thank
you
so
much
and
just
another
you
alluded
to
it
as
well.
You
know,
with
with
our
green
codes
with
our
green
housing
codes
and
just
other
ways
that
we
look
at
how
this
intersects
with
different
policies
in
the
city.
A
I
think
I've
brought
this
up
in
a
meeting,
but
eric
ani
from
the
mpo
and
I
were
chatting-
and
he
said
it's
not
just
about
affordable
housing,
it's
about
affordable
living,
and
I
think
that
that
really
starts
to
encapsulate
all
of
these
different
pieces
of
what
is
the
systems
and
what
are
the
structures
that
we
really
need
to
be
addressing
to
get
to
the
root
cause
of
some
of
our
housing
challenges
and
they
are
multifaceted
and
complex,
and
you
are
absolutely
right
that
there
is
no
no
single
silver
bullet.
A
So
again,
thank
you
for
your
work
for
your
creativity,
for
your
constant
assessment
of
this
ever-changing
and
crucial
and
extremely
challenging
issue,
and
thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
tonight.
A
Of
course,
before
we
move
on
alex,
if
you
are
here-
oh
never
mind,
council
garcia
has
been
included
back
into
the
room.
He
had
popped
off
so
glad
to
see
that
he
has
been
readmitted
as
a
panelist.
So
that
being
said,
let's
move
to
the
consent
agenda.
A
Sorry
back
to
my
notes.
So
first
item
that
was
pulled
was
the
request
for
the
approval
of
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
new
mexico,
main
street
urban
neighborhood
commercial
corridor
initiative
for
airport
road.
We
have
elizabeth
camacho
from
economic
development
here,
liz
so
great
to
see
you
and
councilman
vitariel.
You
pulled
this
item.
The
floor
is
yours,
make
a
bit
of
chair.
C
And,
thank
you
sorry.
I'm
trying
to
do
two
screens
here
on
a
laptop,
not
easy
good,
to
see
you
liz.
C
I
see
I'm
actually
really
excited
about
this
program,
especially
the
team
players
that
your
office
will
be
working
with
eduardo
martinez
and
riya
are
a
power
team
they're
very,
very
knowledgeable
about
main
street
projects,
and
they
also,
I
think,
take
into
consideration
supporting
existing
residents
and
the
cultural
vibrancy
of
areas.
So
that's
exciting
to
hear
and
read
about.
I
was
curious
because
you're
talking
about
a
stakeholder
participant
team
which
I'm
not
sure
how
they
will
be
selected,
but
it
was
happy
to
see
that
mr
acosta
will
be
partnering
with
you
on
this.
J
Madam
chair
counselor,
mr
acosta,
he
led
the
charge
on
the
application
and
he's
definitely
leading
the
charge.
We
had
a
meeting
counselor
lee
garcia
was
there.
So
is
councillor
rivera,
it's
not
as
if
we're
saying
a
stakeholder
and
trying
to
limit.
I
think
it's
much
more
stakeholder
and
trying
to
to
get
that
input
and
that
community
commitment.
C
J
Madam
chair
counselor
burial:
it's
not
a
grant
program,
it's
more
of
an
increasing
our
capacity,
so
we
are
seeking
funding
inside
our
department
to
provide
something
to
mostly
for
to
the
engagement
ideas
and
when
we
bring
people
together.
I
think
we
have
learned
a
lot
in
the
past
three
years
over
engagement,
and
so
you
know
making
something:
that's
fun,
making
something
providing
food
providing
translation
services.
So
I
think
those
are
some
of
the
fees
that
will
be
covered.
J
I'm
not
know
if
there
will
be
any
funding
or
subsidy
amount
for
for
participants.
That
could
be
something
that
mr
acosta
might
want
to
pursue.
C
Yeah,
I
think
that
that
would
be
supportive.
I
don't
know
if
everyone
knows
about
how
successful,
when
you
provide
people
stipends
to
participate,
they're
more
likely
to
attend,
especially
if
they're
missing
work.
So
I'm
I'm
just
wanting
to
put
that
out
there.
I
don't
know
if
the
funding
I
mean
sorry,
the
way
this
is
structured.
That
would
be
possible,
but
I'm
just
putting
that
just
to
flag
it,
because
I
think
that
will
be
important.
C
I
don't
really
have
any
questions
about
that
one.
I
actually
have
just
clarification
on
the
silo
one,
so
I'll
move
to
approve
the
this
item:
the
new
mexico
main
street
urban
neighborhood
commercial
corridor
for
the
airport
road.
C
A
I
have
a
motion
from
councilman
vitorial.
I
got
a
second
from
councillor
chavez.
Councillor
garcia's
hand
is
up
michael
garcia,
councilor
michael
garcia.
The
floor
is
yours.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
liz
for
being
here
with
us,
and
I
guess
this
question
pertains
to
both
mousse,
because
it's,
I
think,
the
same
mou
for
both.
But
first
let
me
say
a
completely
in
agreement
with
my
colleague.
This
is
a
great
program
and
I'm
excited
that
we'll
be
collaborating
with
some
strong
partners
on
this
initiative,
but
on
the
mou
they're,
it's
kind
of
very
open-ended
in
the
sense
there's
the
language
states.
I
The
partners
of
this
mou
agree
to
dedicate
collaborative
resources,
adopt
local
economic
growth
and
revitalization
tools
and
establish
economic
development
funding
to
implement
the
project
and
help
support
economic
vitality
within
the
urban
neighborhood
commercial
corridor
and,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
I
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
we
enter
into
this
agreement,
that
not
only
the
city
but
our
community
partners
are
well
aware
of
what
we
can
and
what
we
will
be
bringing
to
the
table.
I
I'd
hate
for
you
know,
interpretations
to
be
crossed
and
folks
be
expecting
a
little
more
than
this
from
the
city
than
what
we
are
currently
wanting
to
commit,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
liz
you
can
help.
I
guess
clarify
what
what
that
language
means.
Is
it
possible
to
provide
any
clarification
around
that
kind
of
portion
of
the
mou?
I
Because
again,
I
think
especially
given
that
this
is
an
agreement
I
I
can
see
where
it
could
put
us
in
a
bad
space,
and
I
want
to
prevent
any
any
of
that
interaction
from
happening.
J
Madam
chair
counselor,
michael
garcia,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Yes,
we
we
developed
the
mou.
It
was
primarily
the
main
street
program
who
developed
after
having
conversations
with
us
and
after
the
application
was
accepted.
We
developed
the
scope
of
work
and
the
mou
together
and
it
I
I
I
would
be
really
interested
to
see
or
what
what
kind
of
expectations
we
might
think
could
be
misunderstood.
J
I
think
we
we
felt
quite
comfortable
with
it
in
the
sense
that,
yes,
I
feel
quite
comfortable
with
it
in
the
sense
that
it's
it's
very
much
about
a
co-collaboration
with
them,
and
I
think
that
that's
and-
and
it's
also
I-
I
would
see
my
role
as
either
as
hands-on
as
needed
or
as
stepping
back,
and
I
think
that
currently,
if
we,
if
I
see
the
the
two
different
projects
and
how
we've
been
working
on
them,
both
the
the
dynamics
are
are
a
bit
are
a
bit
different
and,
I
think
that's
reflective
of
the
the
geographic
areas
in
the
city,
and
so
I
I
think
it
may
feel
very
ambiguous.
J
But
I
think,
as
we
entered
and
discussed
it
together,
there
is
some
clarity
and
there
are.
There
are
obviously
a
lot
of
similarities
in
some
of
the
projects,
but
I
think
that
there
are
some
cultural
sensitivities
that
we
have
in
terms
of
the
south
side
initiative
that
we
we
may
not
have
with
the
seiler
yard
area
and
with
the
seiler
cylo
ruffina
nexus,
they're,
the
the
the
stakeholders
that
have
initially
gotten
together.
I
have
have
very
different
expectations.
J
I
You
for
that,
but
I
mean
when
you,
when
you
have
the
language
of
agree
to
dedicate
it
dedicate
collaborative
resources.
What
does
that
mean
adopt
local
economic
growth
and
that
revitalization
tools
again?
What
does
that
mean?
Does
that
mean
we
are
going?
I
The
the
city
is
now
putting
the
governing
body
at
on
the
hook
for
adopting
what
could
be
zoning
changes
that
could
be
considered.
Revitalization
tools
established
economic
development
funding.
What
does
that
look?
Is
the
city
responsible
for
coming
to
the
table
with
these
economic,
the
funding?
So
I
think
that's
where,
as
I'm
reading
this,
I
would
like
it
to
be
drawn
out
a
little
more
in
regards
to
what
is
this?
What
what
ultimately.
I
J
Councilor
garcia,
yes,
our
legal
department
has
reviewed
it.
I
completely
understand
the
the
the
worry,
the
concern
about
the
ambiguity
of
the
nature
and
the
amount
of
commitment
that
it's
requiring
of
the
city
at
the
moment.
The
the
language,
I
think,
leaves
it
open
to
an
organic
process,
and
I
think
that
that
does
seem
something.
It's
it's
not
linear.
It's
not
point
a
to
point
b
because
along
the
process
of
the
community
getting
a
vision
for
what
they
want.
I
don't
we
don't
know
if
that
will
be
even
right.
J
Now,
from
our
first
meeting
the
the
main
different
categories
that
we
had
done,
which
were
like
health
arts,
we
were
like.
Maybe
we
need
a
mobility
or
do
we
need
a
sustainability
topic,
and
why?
Because
that
kind
of
came
up
in
in
the
stakeholder
meetings,
so
the
it's
true
it
isn't
it
isn't
a
fiscal
commitment
that
we're
making.
It
is
a
capacity
commitment
that
we
are
making.
I
think
you
are
correct
in
saying:
would
this
could
speak
to
to
land
use?
J
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
initially
has
come
up
with
the
south
side
initiative,
for
instance,
has
been.
Do
we
want
this
road
to
be
called
airport
road?
Perhaps
there's
something
that's
a
more
welcoming
name.
Is
there
something
so,
but
will
that
be
the
priority?
I
I
don't
know
because
I
think
that
that
has
to
come
from
from
the
community
and
and
not
necessarily
something
that
the
planners
and
the
main
street
program
dictates.
J
Instead,
it
has
to
really
be
something
that
that
we
we
come
to
it
together
and-
and
I
think
that
you're
right
there
so
at
the
moment
there
isn't
anything
established,
but
I
think,
as
we
move
along
in
the
process,
there
may
be
something
where
we
will
want
to
establish
perhaps
either
a
main
street
program
there
or
a
business
association,
a
neighborhood
association.
I
don't
know
what
the
outcome
will
look
like,
but
those
are
some
of
the
economic
tools
that
may
be
put
in
place.
So
I
do
understand.
J
I
do
understand
the
concern
you
that
you're
pointing
out,
which
is
the
ambiguity
of
it,
and
to
what
extent
will
that
require
the
city
to
act?
I
I
would
say
that,
as
as
councilor
villarreal
expressed
with
the
the
the
expertise
that
we
have
from
the
main
street
team
that
that
there
should
be
a
certain
amount
of
maybe
trust
in
the
mou
and
also
in
in
their
in
their
abilities
to
to
lead
this
process
in
a
way.
That's
that's,
that's
accommodating
for
both
the
community
and
the
city
and
not
something.
J
J
But
I
don't
think
that
this
will
be
because
this
is
going
to
come
as
a
result
of
what
people
want
that
that
it's
necessarily
now
you
have
to
do
it
because
it's
in
in
the
mou,
I
I
think
that
there
are
other
there
are
other
safeguards
in
place
in
terms
of
moving
those
requests
forwards.
Beyond
the
mou.
J
J
I
really
appreciate
your
questions
and
I
really
appreciate
you
pointing
out
that
so
that
we
can
be-
and
I
can
keep
that
on
my
radar
because
I
think
you're
correct.
I
think
if
you
don't
manage
expectations,
they
turn
into
resentment.
So
I
I
agree.
Thank
you.
I
Sure,
absolutely,
and-
and
thank
you
so
much-
I
appreciate
it
and
by
no
means
was
I
trying
to
be
dismissive
of
the
main
street
experts
I
mean.
I
know
mr
martinez
very
well,
and
I
have
much
respect
for
him
and
and
his
process
and
his
work
in
the
community
he's
he's
an
expert
that
I
actually
look
up
to
and
considered
a
mentor
at
one
point
so
look
forward
to
you
know
him
bringing
his
expertise
and
lending
it
to
the
city
of
santa
fe.
I
With
that
good
luck
as
we
enter
into
this
agreement,
I
I
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
thank
you
liz
for
taking
this
on
and
shepherding
this
with
that.
No
other
questions,
madam
chair,
thank
you.
So
much.
D
D
You
know
many
people
were
there
representative
serrado
was
there,
I
mean,
there's
a
lot
of
people
invested
in
taking
a
look
at
this
area
and
seeing
what
ideas
you
know
the
steps
to
to
really
make
this
area
thrive
in
in
the
near
future
and
the
years
to
come,
because
this
is
where
a
lot
of
the
development
is
going
to
happen
is
happening,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
people
there
that
were
just
you
know,
giving
their
their
their
professional
input
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that,
and
I
think
that
this
is
something
that's
going
to
be
really
good
for
this
area
of
the
city
and
you
know,
like
I
said
I,
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
it's
going
to
transpire
and
be
how
how
we
can
be
involved
with
that,
as
well
from
the
perspective
of
the
city.
D
So
thank
you
very
much,
ms
camacho
and
everybody
else.
A
Thank
you
counselor.
I
just
have
a
brief
question
on
this
one
and
I
I
do
actually
have
a
couple
questions
for
the
ruffina
sailor
nexus,
which
makes
me
very
excited.
A
I
was
curious
kind
of
on
the
same
kind
of
on
the
same
line
as
counselor
michael
garcia's,
questions
about
the
interactions
between
other
city
plans,
so,
for
example,
I'm
interested
in
how
how
these
main
street
programs
specifically
here,
how
this
one
interacts
with
the
southwest
area
master
plan,
I'm
interested
how
these
start
to
inform
city
transit
plan
updates
and
how
we
start
to
look
at
this,
and
this
has
actually
been
something.
A
I've
been
thinking
about
almost
from
this
broader
spectrum
as
we're
having
some
of
these
areas
that
we're
really
looking
at
bringing
a
lot
of
vibrancy
to
as
we're
looking
at
the
development
of
midtown.
You
know
this
might
be
a
larger
question
for
rich,
or
maybe
it's
just
a
comment
at
this
time
of.
A
I
really
see
this
opportunity
of
some
of
the
integration
of
some
of
the
other
pieces
that
we
already
have
moving
at
the
city
or
some
some
plans
that
we
already
have
in
place
and
I'm
curious
if
that
has
been
contemplated
or
discussed
at
all.
In
relation
to
these
main
street
programs,
hi
rich
great,
to
see
you.
J
Madam
chair,
they,
the
first
step,
is
asset
mapping,
so
we
first
bring
together
whether
it's
mpos
plans,
whether
it's
land
use
plans,
whether
it's
culture
connects
whether
it's
a
sustainability
plan.
J
All
of
those
are
part
of
what
the
team
and
I'm
really
curious
to
see
what
it
looks
like
too,
because
I
haven't
done
this
kind
of
place
making
project
and
it's
it's
it's
professionally,
really
exciting
for
me.
But
yes,
so
the
asset
mapping
is
is
a
first
step
towards
this.
I
do
not
know
what
the
output
will
look
like
in
terms
of
I
know
we're
mapping
it.
I
know
that
we
will
be
discussing
it.
I
I
don't
necessarily
know
what
what
what
the
output
yeah,
what
either
the
community
input
will
be.
J
Nor
do
I
know
the
way
that
ria
and
eduardo
or
annette
who's,
also
working
with
us
will
structure
it
that
that's
that
part.
I
am
not
necessarily
certain
on
and
it's
a
12
to
18
month
commitment.
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
lengthy
commitment
and
I
think
that
that's
that's
part
of
really
what's
exciting
about
this
as
well.
A
K
Thank
you,
councillor,
kasich
and
good
evening
to
everybody
on
the
council.
K
I
think
I
think
liz
is
right
and
I
wanted
to
just
add
that
for
many
years
and
liz-
and
I
have
been
with
economic
development
for
five
years-
we've
been
trying
to
get
a
mainstream
program
in
santa
fe
and
we've
been
disqualified,
and
so
I'm
very
proud
of
liz's
work
to
bring
these
urban
corridor
programs
to
us,
because
we
do
see
a
transformation
of
our
different
sections
of
the
city,
airport,
road
and
its
revitalization
and
the
seller
graffina
nexus.
K
So
I
think
what
I
wanted
to
add
was
that,
first
and
foremost,
we
need
to
build
a
community
of
committed
folks,
and
I
think
that's
going
to
be
the
first
part
of
this
main
street
piece,
because
traditionally
the
main
street
program,
you
have
to
have
kind
of
a
historic
or
traditional
buildings
and
sites
that
allows
you
to
revitalize
it
and
it's
very
amorphous
on
airport
road.
It's
the
place
from
airport
to
the
city
right.
K
So
when
we
look
at
this
as
a
now
an
urban
corridor
that
that
might
be
the
first
piece
that
comes
in,
how
do
we
bring
our
community
together
to
sort
of
rethink
it
from
a
community's
perspective,
not
just
from
what
the
city
wants?
So
that's
what
I
think.
Ultimately,
the
next
phase
building
the
community
first
phase.
Second
phase
will
be:
how
do
we
then
leverage
our
overlays,
our
land
use
plans,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
to
see
possibly
in
the
18
month
to
three
year
plan?
K
What
could
be
done
because
it
will
take
initiative
process
to
get
there?
So
I
just
wanted
to
just
add
that
in
there
that
that
we're
very
proud
that
we've
been
selected
for
these
two
corridors
and
and
it
will
be
first
building
the
community
and
then
from
there
looking
at
the
land,
use
and
overlay
plans
that
could
come
from
it
once
we
know
the
community
is,
is,
is
convened
and
understands
kind
of
what
could
happen
in
the
future.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
rich.
I
appreciate
you
you
adding
that
to
that
as
well,
which
actually
does
bring
me
to
my
next
question.
I
know
somewhere
sorry,
I'm
reading
off
my
notes
and
not
off
the
actual
mou,
but
it
does
discuss
the
possibility
of
being
able
to
apply
for
further
assistance
or
further
resources
with
the
new
mexico
main
street
program
and
what
potential
opportunities
do
we
have
there
and
and
really?
How
can
we
set
ourselves
up
to
take
advantage
of
those.
J
That's
a
great
question:
the
main
street
program
puts
out
madam
chair
a
newsletter
about
different
kinds,
and
I
put
out
newsletters
well
so
of
different
fundings
that
are
available,
and
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
really
of
focusing
our
efforts.
But
the
great
thing
is
that
having
having
the
main
street
team,
they
really
put
things
on
our
radar
to
be
like
this.
J
One
is
simple:
this
is
complicated,
you're,
not
quite
there
yet,
and-
and
so
they
they're
really
kind
of
guiding
us
as
well,
and
I
think
that
that's
what
we
mean
by
by
them
increasing
our
capacity.
And
so
it's
been.
J
It's
been
a
real
pleasure
working
with
them,
and
I
think
that
the
the
grants,
whether
it's
our
town,
grant,
whether
it's
the
t-mobile
grant,
they
really
bring
it
to
your
attention
and
to
see
where
we
are
in
the
process,
and
I
think
that
they're
saying
as
we
move
along
further
in
the
process,
we'll
point
you
in
directions
of
different
kinds
of
funding
that
might
be
available.
K
If
I
could
add
to
what
liz
says,
I
want
to
also
let
everyone
keep
in
mind
that
both
of
these
locations
are
within
opportunity
zones
and
so
there's
another
route,
potentially,
if
there's
development
going
through
it.
At
one
point,
I
think
someone
alex
spoke
earlier
about
impact
investing
so
there's
another
angle
for
us
for
impact
investing
that
will
allow
us
to
sort
of
see
whether
a
additional
grant
funding
is
available
as
we
come
through
with
a
plan
that
that's
put
in
place.
A
Wonderful
great,
thank
you
I'll
I'll
have
some
more
when
we
get
to
rufina
and
zyler.
As
rich
knows,
I've
been
to
zero
about
this
period
of
time
plenty
of
times,
but
I
do
just
want
to
say
as
councilman
peter
real
mentioned.
You
know
I'm
really
excited
to
see
this
program
move
through
and
liz.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
work
and
your
focus
here.
I
I
really
do
look
forward.
A
Please
let
me
know
whenever
there
is
some
opportunity
to
bring
you
guys
back
here
to
report
on
whatever
updates
there
are.
I
know
that
this
is
something
that
this
committee
will
be
very
interested
in
following
and
in
hearing
more
about,
so
I
do
look
forward
to
bringing
those
presentations
back
as
you
move
through
the
process
and
just
let
me
know
when
you,
when
you're
ready,
councilman
vitoria,
I
see
your
hand
is
up
again.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
actually
to
follow
up
on
the
question
about
funding.
I'm
curious.
If
these
this
initiative
could
potentially
lead
to
jtip
or
lita
funds
that
we
have
control
over,
I
don't
know
if
there's
a
correlation,
I'm
just.
K
Curious
because
yeah
madam
chair
and
council
brielle,
I
don't
think
that
the
leader
of
jtip
would
qualify
because
j-type,
I'm
sorry
leta
is
about
business
expansion.
K
So
if
there's
a
business
there
that
expands,
then
there's
a
leader
aspect
to
it,
but
it
could
possibly
have
a
j-tip
aspect
once
we
sort
of
build
that
community
of
businesses,
residents
and
community
organizations
that
that's
a
possibility,
but
I
think
a
third
one
that
we
could
consider
is
that
we
could
apply
for
capital
outlay
for
one
of
these
areas,
because
if
you
think
about
improving
the
roads,
improving
the
area,
that's
where
capital
outlay
comes
in
from
the
legislature.
K
So
that
might
be
an
angle
that
we
could
feature
now
that
we
know
that
the
state
is
awash
in
funds.
So
that
would
be
another
area,
I
think,
would
be
a
consideration
from
that
standpoint.
Great.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councilman
video
I
apologize.
I
do
have
one
more
question.
Does
this
does
this?
The
area
of
focus
here?
Is
it
covering
all
of
airport
road
include,
like
all
the
way
to
rodeo
road.
A
J
Where
or
what
part
do
we
want
to
cover,
or
what
do
we
consider,
especially
as
we
just
heard
director
alexander
ladd,
speak
to
the
development
of
tara
contenta
in
the
area.
J
Also
part
of
the
discussion
that
we'll
be
having.
A
Okay,
wonderful
just
wanna
remind
you
all
that
that
a
tiny
bit
of
airport
road
belongs
to
district
four,
so
councillor
travis,
and
I,
if
you
do,
if
you
are
covering
that
area,
I
know
I
and
I
will
not
speak
for
her,
but
I'm
going
to
speak
for
you
anyway.
I
assume
that
you
would
want
to
be
a
part
of
those
conversations.
So
please,
please
do
let
us
know
if
that
is
going
to
be
be
included.
The
part
that
is
district
4.
K
Madam
chair,
can
I
have
one
more
thing
you
just
brought
up,
but
I
wanted
to
let
councilman
real
know
that
I
did
have
been
I'm
sorry.
I've
been
working
with
miguel
costa
and
I
helped
him
fund
an
internship
program
with
capitol
high
school
for
this
project.
K
So
there
are,
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
three
young
interns
from
capital
high
that
I'm
working
with
him
and
another
group
and
the
city
of
economic
development
funded
this
internship
program,
because
it's
an
opportunity
to
show
sort
of
business
professional
opportunities
within
a
project.
That's
within
the
neighborhood,
so
you
had
asked
about
how
we
could
fund
some
services
and
participation,
and
so
I
forgot
all
about
that
that
that
was
done
about
a
month
or
so
ago
with
miguel
and
I
were
working
together.
A
Thank
you
so
much
you
guys.
This
is.
This
is
awesome.
Thank
you
so
much,
I'm
really!
I'm
really
excited
about
this
project.
I'm
gonna,
just
let
my
little
nerd
flag
go
and
just
just
tell
you
guys,
like
I
am
so
looking
forward
to
hearing
the
updates
and
thank
you
again
so
much
for
your
work
here.
If
there
are
no
further
questions,
ms
martin,
if
we
could
get
a
roll
call,
vote,
that'd
be
great.
Yes,
ma'am.
A
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
and
if
you
all
can
stay
on
the
screen.
Moving
on
to
item
c,
this
is
the
request
for
the
approval
of
a
memorandum
of
understanding
between
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
new
mexico
main
street
urban
neighborhood
commercial
corridor
initiative
for
the
sailor,
roofina
nexus
area,
liz
and
rich
are
are
still
here
to
present
and
councilman
vitoria.
You
had
pulled
this
one
floor.
C
Is
yours,
thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
liz
for
adding
the
the
correct
mou
for
stylor
rufina.
I
didn't
actually
get
to
see
it.
I
I
glanced
at
it
right
before
the
meeting,
but
I
guess
my
question
to
you
because
it
is
a
different
area
as
it
was.
C
You
know
compared
to
the
other
corridor
that
we
were
discussing
earlier,
and
I
guess
I'm
more
interested
to
understand
how
this
particular
corridor
initiative
would
support
small
local
businesses
and
when
I
say
that
this
is
a
unique
area,
because
it's
probably
one
of
the
few
light
industrial
areas
we
have
left
in
the
city.
That's
affordable,
affordable,
that's
kind
of
not
necessarily
I
mean
it
may
not
be
I'm
just.
I
guess
what
I'm
saying.
C
There's
established
small
businesses
in
the
light
industrial
area
that
I'd
like
to
see
continue
instead
of
being
displaced,
and
so
I
guess
my
my
question
to
you
is
like
how
are
you
engaging
the
small
local
businesses
and
potentially
supporting
their
capacity
while
you're,
also
looking
at
the
way
that
the
mou
is
written
is
looking
at
kind
of
this
artistic
aspect
of
the
corridor.
J
Counselor,
madam
chair,
I
think
that
I
think
there
is
a
balance
and
I
think
there
is
a
lot
of
the
creative
community
who's
very
supportive
at
the
moment,
and
we've
seen
that
I
think
our
first,
our
first,
our
first
kind
of
community
gathering
will
be
may
14th
we're
going
to
be
doing
something
around
bike
week
and
we're
asking
the
artisans
to
come
out
and
then
the
other
thing
is
asking
the
businesses
to
participate
as
well
and
we'll
see
how
how
that
becomes.
J
Inter
how
we
we'll
see,
I
guess,
really
how
it'll
work
out
in
terms
of
who
decides
to
participate
and
how
to
participate,
and
then
the
other.
The
other
element
is
a
mix
of
non-profits
as
well,
because
this
is
also
the
area
of
kitchen
angels.
It's
the
area
of
the
food
depot,
it's
the
area
of
home
wise,
it's
the
area
of
why
school.
So
so.
J
Yes,
I
think
that
as
much
we're
considering
the
businesses
just
as
much
kind
of
a
java
joe's
as
we
are
the
artisans
on
industrial
road
and
whether
or
not
they
would
like
to
how
they
might
want
to
position
that
area
and
especially
the
arsons
with
the
ateliers.
They
have
they've
really
kind
of
rallied
and
wanted
to
do
this,
and
I
think
that's
also
very
congruent
with
the
theme
that
we've
seen
in
that
sciler
yard
area.
J
So
and-
and
that
does
seem
to
be
a
lot
of
the
aspirations
at
the
moment
that
they've
discussed,
where
they
very
much
like
to
have
a
of
of
an
arts
district
in
in
some
way
in
the
area.
But
I
think
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
the
local
businesses
will
be
excluded.
We
will
be
asking
them
as
well
if
they'd
like
to
participate.
C
Businesses,
so
I
guess
I
just
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
kind
of
a
inclusive
process,
since
it's
such
a
mixture
there-
and
it
is
the
like
last
remaining
light
industrial
so
and
sometimes
that
buzzword
of
arts
districts
is
a
buzz
word
for
gentrification.
So
I
just
want
to
be
careful
with
that.
I
know
that's
not
necessarily
your
intention,
but
I
know.
J
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
and
I
completely
I
think
there
is
a
I
think,
one
of
the
while
we
that
might
be
the
aspiration.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
heard
from
people
in
the
area
are
also
because
we
did
kind
of
just
a
driving
and
walking
tour
with
everyone,
and
and
some
of
the
concerns
are
actually
more
towards
safety
and
lights
and
road
conditions.
J
J
We
really
want
to
have
be
the
next
canyon
road
to
to
say
it
in
a
way,
that's
kind
of
like
shorthand
or
something,
but
but
I
think
that
there's
also
just
a
big
push
for
some
just
very,
very
basic
infrastructure
questions
in
terms
of
the
roads
and
the
safety
back
there,
so
so
that
those
are
and-
and
I
think
that
the
team
we
have
will
be
very
considerate
of
it
as
well.
J
C
Yeah,
I
think
walkability
would
be
a
big
aspect
there.
It's
really
hard
to
cross
silo
from
district
one
to
district.
Is
that
district
four,
three,
four
four
yeah
so
yeah.
So
that's
just
something
I
want
to
highlight
as
something
that
I'm
interested
to
learn
more
about,
and
also
just
a
cautionary
note,
and
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
councilwoman.
I
was
sitting
there
waiting
for
somebody
to
call
on
me
and
then
I
realized
that
I
I
call
on
me.
Are
there
any
other
members
of
the
committee
before
before?
A
I
call
on
myself
that
have
questions
at
this
time,
if
not
I'll
call
on
myself,
I,
as
I
mentioned,
as
I
briefly
alluded
to
I've,
I've
been
talking
to
rich
about
the
ruffina
area
for
quite
some
time
and
and
how
I
see
a
real
opportunity
here
and
similar
to
what
councilwoman
just
just
brought
up
is
how
do
we
really
lean
into
that
that
light
industrial
feel,
but
then
also
give
it
a
sense
of
place,
and
so
I
am,
I'm
really
excited
and
eager
to
see
this
project
move
forward
in
this
part
of
town.
A
I'm
hoping
that
that
again
I'll
sorry,
council
travis,
I
won't
speak
for
you
again,
but
I
might
speak
for
you
again
that
we'll
be
able
to
be
part
of
these
engagements
again.
This
is
you
know
that
siler
is
that
border
between
districts,
one
and
four,
and
so
I'm
hoping
that
we'll
have
the
opportunity,
similar
to
counselors
lee,
garcia
and
rivera
for
for
some
of
the
stakeholder
kickoffs
and
curious
when
those
might
be
getting
started,
and
I
assume
that
councilwoman,
vitreal
and
councillor
lindell
as
well
would
be
invited
no
quorum.
J
A
Great,
thank
you.
I'm
definitely
excited.
I
think
that
there
is
a
lot
of
opportunity.
You
know.
I
think
that
kind
of
this
discussion
of
you
know
as
councilmember
vitorial
brought
up
of
what
does
an
arts
and
culture
district
mean
and
broadening
that
definition,
so
that
it
is
not
as,
as
you
said,
liz
you
know
we
already.
We
already
have
a
canyon
road.
We
don't
necessarily
need
another
one
we,
but
there
really
is
an
opportunity
here
to
lean
into
what
this
district
is
and
and
pull
it
out.
A
So
I
am
now
just
rambling,
because
I
am
really
excited
about
the
focus
on
this
area,
and
I
I
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
really
wonderful
opportunity
to
to
see
what
we
can
create
here.
So
thank
you
again
for
bringing
this
forward
for
all
of
your
work
on
this
and,
as
rich
said,
this
is
also
an
opportunity
zone.
Both
of
them
are,
and
so
I
think
that
it
could
not
be
more
aptly
named
than
that.
A
So
with
that,
if
there
are
no
other
questions,
ms
martin,
if
you
could
give
us
a
roll
call
vote,
please.
L
B
Cassette
yes,
counselor,
michael
garcia,.
I
D
A
Motion
passes.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
liz.
Thank
you
rich.
Looking
forward
to
this
moving
on
to
item
e,
this
is
a
request
for
approval
of
the
2021
state
homeland
security,
subgrant
agreement
e
m,
w
2021-s.
A
Ss-00061-S01
and
the
total
amount
of
143
028
for
the
development
of
sustainment,
of
emergency
response
and
recovery
capabilities
with
a
period
of
performance
of
january,
1st
2022
to
june
20th
2023,
and
we
have
brian
williams
from
the
the
director
of
emergency
management
and
safety
here
to
answer
questions
councilwoman
vitariel,
you
pulled
this
item.
The
floor
is
yours,.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
director
williams
for
being
with
us
just
want
to
clarify,
especially
for
the
new
counselors.
Can
you
let
us
know
how
this
request
is
different
than
this?
The
request
we
received
last
year
for
similar
equipment
from
the
same
grant
source.
I
believe.
M
Different
I'm
madam
chair
council,
via
real
different.
In
what
respect
I
mean
it's
the
same,
grant
it's
an
annual
grant.
This
is
different
in
that
this
equipment
is
specific
for
our
explosive
ordnance
disposal
team.
Whereas
last
year
the
equipment
was
primarily
for
the
special
weapons
team.
The
swat
team.
C
I
guess
I'm
recalling
the
robot
request
for
funding,
and
this
is
connected
to
that.
So
if
you
could
remind
us
about
that
funding,
I
thought
was
through
the
same
grant
or
maybe
it
was
a
different
funding
source.
M
C
So
it's
it's
supporting
the
not
just
the
staff
for
this,
but
the
robot
to
kind
of
expand
upon
being
able
to
utilize.
It.
M
Yes-
and
we
have,
we
do
have
detective
ian
freeman
if
he
wants
to
come
on
board
he's
one
of
the
eod
team
members
can
speak
to
any
specific
question,
but
yes,
the
the
x-ray
machine
supplements
the
capacity
of
the
robot
got
it.
Thank
you
for
that.
N
Sorry,
good
evening,
everyone
it's
it's
similar,
yes
ma'am,
so
the
the
rope,
I'm
sorry
the
x-ray
machine
and
the
bomb
suits,
are
prepared
per
nabscap
guidelines,
which
is
a
federal
doj
guideline
that
all
bomb
squads
have
to
have
to
maintain
accreditation.
N
The
robot
we
got
last
year
and
these
are
suits
the
shirts
we
currently
have
right
now
are
expired,
so
we
need
new
ones
and
the
x-ray
machine
right
that
we've
had
for
quite
quite
a
few
years,
doesn't
even
get
serviced
by
the
company
that
makes
it
anymore.
So
if
it
breaks,
we
won't
have
one
so
this
this.
This
grant
money
is
going
to
be
able
to
allow
us
to
maintain
our
accreditation
as
well
as
have
gear
that'll
keep
all
of
our
the
hazardous
device
technicians
safe.
N
While
they
act
on
any
kind
of
suspicious
device
or
explosive.
C
Thank
you
for
that
additional
information
and
then
last
year
that
what
did
you
say,
director
williams,
that
last
year's
equipment,
the
robot
was
funded
through.
What
grant
again?
This
is
called
the.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilwoman
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
and,
if
not,
what
are
the
wishes
of
the
committee.
A
Second,
I
have
a
motion
from
councilor
lee
garcia
second
from
councillor
chavez.
If
I
could
get
a
roll
call
vote,
miss
martin.
A
Motion
passes.
Thank
you
so
much
all
right.
That
is
the
end
of
the
items
pulled
off
of
our
consent
agenda.
We
do
not
have
anything
on
discussion.
No
executive
session
item
10
matters
from
staff.
Any
matters
this
evening.