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A
A
B
Removed
or
it
has
been
removed
by
the
sponsor
for
further
discussion
and
consideration
and
to
be
brought
back
in
the
future
and
item
H.
A
What
was
that
so
item?
D
is
not
going
to
be
heard
tonight.
The
spot
counselor
Michael
Garcia,
the
sponsor-
is
pulling
this
back
for
further
discussion
and
it
will
come
to
us
at
a
later
date,
and
that
is
the
only
change
correct.
That's
the
only
thing
that's
not
being
heard.
B
A
Pulled
perfect
we'll
get
to
the
consent
agenda
and
just
for
those
listening
I'm
about
to
read
a
really
long
title.
This
is
an
ordinance
relating
to
electric
bicycles,
amending
section
12-1-6
of
the
uniform
traffic
ordinance
uto
to
include
electric
bicycles
and
the
definition
of
bicycle
amending
section,
12-1-40
of
the
uto
to
delineate
electric
bicycles
from
Motor
Vehicles
amending
section
12-1-88
of
the
uto
to
specify
that
an
electric
bicycle
is
not
a
vehicle
amending
section
12-8-1
of
the
uto
to
prohibit
anyone
under
the
age
of
16.
From
writing.
A
23-5.1
to
amend
the
definition
of
bicycle,
to
include
electric
bicycles
and
to
regulate
the
use
of
electric
bicycles
on
City
roads,
so
a
lot
that
Council
Garcia
is
working
on
there
thanks.
We
appreciate
it,
but
we
will
be
hearing
that
at
another
date,
so
I
can,
if
there
are
no
other
changes
to
the
agenda,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve,
as
amended.
A
All
those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
or
abstain,
motion
passes
and
now
on
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
and
Loretta.
Can
you
please
tell
us
what
was
pulled
item.
A
So
that
is
item
H
and
J.
If
there
are
no
other
changes,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve,
as
amended,
move
to
approve
as
amended.
Second.
E
A
Those
in
favor
say
aye
aye
any
post
abstain.
Moving
on.
We
don't
need
to
do
approval
limits.
We
have
that
on
the
consent.
So
moving
on
to
presentations,
we
are
getting
an
update
on
the
airport,
road,
Main,
Street,
Urban,
commercial
Corridor
progress.
We
have
Elizabeth
Camacho
from
Economic,
Development
and
Miguel
Acosta
here
to
present,
or
maybe
oh
there's,
Liz
hi
Liz
Laura's.
Yours.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
good
evening,
Madam,
chairperson
members,
the
committee
staff
and
community.
Thank
you
for
saving
me
a
seat
I'm
here,
miela
Costa
I'm
here
to
share
with
you
an
update
about
our
project,
our
Main
Street
project.
This
Camacho
for
economic
development
is
also
here
as
well
as
Ria
sedna,
who
works
with
Main
Street
and
is
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
about
Main
Street
and
their
approach
and
their
support
here.
C
She's
one
of
our
Consultants
one
of
the
people
in
providing
invaluable
technical
assistance
on
this
project
and
and
I
want
to
apologize.
Upfront
I
have
reading
issues
right,
my
COPD
so
sometimes
I,
slow
down
and
Catch
My
Breath
like
right
now
be
with
you
in
a
second.
C
So
what
I'm
sharing
with
you
is
a
presentation
that
we
developed
for
the
second
community
meeting
that
we
had
I've
updated
it
to
include
information
from
from
that
meeting
and
a
previous
one
and
also
updated
the
dates
on
on
an
upcoming
events.
C
Main
Street
traditionally
starts
off
with
a
strategic
planning
session
where
all
the
critical
actors
in
the
community
come
together:
Economic
Development
folks
in
the
cities,
business
people
residents,
Etc
Chambers
and
create
a
plan
to
move
forward.
C
One
of
the
things
that
we
decided
to
do-
and
we
proposed
it
and
it
was
approved-
was
to
go
through
a
community
building
process
prior
well
everything
that
we're
we're
engaged
in
right
now
and
over
the
next
few
months
is
still
sort
of
a
pre-traditional
Main
Street
process.
We
we've-
and
we
did
this
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
One.
C
C
It's
an
area
that
has
developed
a
sort
of
checkerboard
right,
there's
areas
like
like,
which
was
part
of
the
city
from
its
Inception,
has
a
more
traditional
relationships
and
and
Home
Ownership
Etc,
although
lots
of
affordable
housing
as
well,
but
a
large
part
of
the
area
was
County
and
was
part
of
the
annexation
of
the
city
some
years
back,
the
first
time
that
I
worked
on
this
project
was
was
10
years
ago.
C
Actually,
with
the
support
of
counselor
Carmichael
Dominguez
partnering
with
Romero,
he
and
I
did
a
community
engagement
process
when
they
were
doing
the
healthy
communities
overlay
for
Airport
Road
and
giving
it
the
kind
of
attention
that
it
needed.
Although
it
you
know
it,
it
didn't
continue
right,
but
but
it
was
a
start
we
he
and
I
conducted
like
we
worked
with
about
400
people
in
well.
C
We
were
calling
like
either
kitchen
table
or
or
or
living
room
conversations
right,
extended
conversations
with
folks
to
get
a
sense
of
what
their
concerns
were,
what
their
aspirations
were
a
sense
of
what
they
felt
were
the
challenges
that
existed
as
well
as
the
opportunities
lots
of
good
information
came
out
of
it.
C
It's
in
a
report
somewhere
in
this
building
and
and
and
it's
but
a
lot
of
that,
a
lot
of
the
folks
are
still
around,
and
a
lot
of
folks
have
been
engaged
just
like
with
the
team
center
right,
they're
still
engaged
and
still
participating
in
community
conversations.
We
had
some
real
insights
during
that
whole
process.
C
At
the
same
time,
Airport
Road
was
being
redesigned
right
and
there
was.
It
was
an
opportunity
for
city
planners
and
folks
to
understand
that
a
perspective
from
downtown
or
from
10
000
feet
is
different
than
from
walking
across
the
street.
Right
at
one
of
our
family
Community
conversations,
the
families
were
expressing
lots
of
concern
about
the
changes
to
Airport
Road
so
that
they
couldn't
turn
left
coming
out
of
the
McDonald's
where
it
used
to
be
and
when
we
reported
that
to
the
city.
C
Folks,
before
we
finished
our
presentation,
folks,
chuckled
planners
right
and
said
well,
that's
good
that
they
can
get
there's
no
good
for
them
anyway.
Right
and
when
you
know
we
went
out
and
finished
our
our
presentation
and
said
that
basically
parents
moms
especially
were
concerned
because
that's
where
they
went
with
their
small
children
during
the
day
from
across
the
street
from
from
Country
Club
Gardens
right,
it's
the
only
area.
C
It
was
the
only
area
that
had
safe
playground,
space
for
small
toddlers
right,
but
you
know
that
the
planners
then
understood
that
there
was
a
different
perspective
from
the
community
level.
Unfortunately,
10
years
later,
it's
still
the
only
accessible
public
kind
of
public
right,
safe
space
for
toddlers
to
play.
C
That's
the
kind
of
background
sort
of
historic
background
that
we're
looking
at
as
we
approached
this,
this
proposal
to
Main
Street,
our
friends
at
Main
Street
and
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
over
over
all
these
years.
C
This
is
a
this.
Is
the
agenda
from
the
second
meeting
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
how
we
approach
the
meetings
themselves
right
we
had.
Prior
to
this,
we
had
a
community
meeting
over
at
at
Sona
at
the
building.
We
share
with
the
boys
and
girls
club.
A
couple
of
you
I
think
were
there
and
this
there.
It
was
sort
of
a
testing
the
waters,
right,
testing,
interest,
testing,
commitment,
levels,
Etc
and
without
a
huge
amount
of
effort
we
were
able
to
get
about
40
people
there,
which
was
for
us.
C
You
know
a
big
success,
so
we
went
ahead
and
planned
our
meetings
or
we
started
planning
our
our
general
Community
meetings,
the
very
first
one
that
we
had
and
I'll
give
you
some
of
the
outcomes
of
that
was
organized
and
facilitated
by
our
youth
interns.
C
We
had
25
youth
interns
this
summer
and
they
did
an
amazing
job
of
canvassing,
the
community
talking
to
all
the
the
businesses
up
and
down
Airport
Road,
with
specific
attention
to
like
the
the
longeras,
the
food
food
trucks
who
have
been
expressing
some
specific
concerns,
as
well
as
others
right.
They
also
did
Outreach.
The
neighborhood
associations,
Community
organizations
in
the
area,
and
just
it's
a
my
ball
mapping
of
of
the
community-
then
they
they
facilitated
the
meetings,
then,
with
a
with
a
different
experience
behind
them
right.
C
Having
talked
to
businesses,
having
talked
to
families,
having
talked
to
Youth
and
having
walked
the
area,
they
facilitated
the
meetings
with
with
a
better
understanding
and
a
better
grasp
of
the
the
area
physically
right
they
were
able
to.
You
know,
as
they
say
you
know,
get
their
hands
dirty,
although
most
of
them
are
from
the
area.
You'd
be
surprised,
I'm,
always
surprised
right
at
things
that
I
don't
know
about
the
area
where
I
live
right
things
that
surprises
both
positive
and
negative.
C
It's
not
the
kind
of
thing
that
we're
trying
to
do.
You
know
to
assess
and
analyze
the
spaces
around
us,
but
as
we
do
it
and
the
more
we
do
it.
The
more
surprises
that
we
that
we
have
so
we've
been
following
a
traditional
community
meeting
format
for
for
our
meetings,
We
Gather
people,
we
do
the
publicity,
the
Outreach
Etc,
We,
Gather
people
who
do
and
some
introductions
we
always
have
child
care.
We
always
have
some
snacks.
C
We
talk
a
little
bit.
We
frame
the
topics
for
the
day
and
we've
been
having
two
themes
or
two
topics
or
Focus
areas
for
each
meeting.
We
frame
them
a
little
bit.
We
do
some
pre-work
right
in
terms
of
the
framing,
both
through
internal
conversations
and
conversations
with
some
of
our
our
Network,
so
that
when
we
start
the
meetings,
for
example,
when
we
have
a
conversation
about
Community
Health
Equity,
we
have
a
working
definition
of
what
Community
Health
Equity
means
right.
So
it's
a
starting
point.
It's
not
an
end
point.
C
It's
a
starting
point
for
the
conversations.
Then
we
break
up
into
focus
groups
or
breakout
groups
to
an
English
and
two
in
Spanish
we've
been
averaging
55
to
60
people
at
each
meeting.
We
do
two
groups
in
English
two
groups
in
Spanish,
with
questions
and
and
prompts
for
them
to
to
feedback
information
to
us.
Everything
is
valid.
It's
brainstorming.
We
want
people
to
share
what
comes
to
their
mind.
We
don't
want
it
to
be
funneled
or
channeled
or
filtered
in
any
way.
C
C
So
we've
had
two
meetings
so
far
and
and
what's
going
to
happen
now
over
the
next
couple
of
months,
is
we're
going
to
get
volunteers,
community
volunteers
to
look
at
all
that
information
and
for
them
to
start
prioritizing
the
kinds
of
things
that
they
see
as
the
most
important,
both
in
terms
of
opportunities,
challenges,
risks
and
and
challenges
right,
and
so
that
information
will
have
available
when
we
do
the
traditional
strategic,
visioning
and
strategic
planning
that
the
the
our
folks
at
Main
Street
will
help
us
facilitate
and
that'll
be
just
after
the
the
first
of
the
year
when
we
will
do
that
and
obviously
everybody
will
be
invited.
C
C
Community
planning
in
the
first
place
right
so
we're
not
looking
at
just
Economic
Development
we're
not
looking
at
facade
rebates,
we're
not
looking
at
et
cetera,
we're
looking
at
so
what's
the
whole
point
of
having
a
community
in
the
first
place
right,
something
that's
not
something
different
than
just
a
bunch
of
houses.
What
does
community
mean
to
you?
What
does
it
do
for
you?
What
does
it
protect
you
from,
and
these
are?
C
These
are
seven
role
or
functions
of
community
and
everything
we
do
is
bilingual,
so
you'll
see
everything
in
English
and
in
Spanish.
These
are
some
of
the
essential
functions
of
community
coming
out
of
the
research,
but
also
coming
out
of
people's
experiences.
C
If
these
things
are
not
being
provided
by
Community,
then
we
need
to
do
some
Community
Development
right,
there's
gaps,
there's
things
that
are
not
happening
over
the
covered
years.
The
the
quality
of
these
of
these
functions
right
or
the
lack
thereof,
was
very,
very
apparent
right.
Those
communities
that
did
better
or
were
already
better
functioning
in
these
areas
did
better
during
the
pandemic
and
those
that
that
didn't
they
weren't
ready.
C
The
other
thing
that
were
that
were
very
committed
to
is
community-led
development,
all
right,
one
of
the
in
general.
It's
a
good
idea
right
in
practice,
is
even
more
urgent
for
us
on
the
South
Side
than
possibly
other
areas
of
the
community
of
the
city.
Because
of
what
I
mentioned
up
front
right
that
traditionally,
we
have
not
had
the
organization,
the
capacity
or
the
engagement
to
make
decisions
for
ourselves.
C
So
pretty
much.
Every
decision
about
the
south
side
has
been
made
in
this
building
in
the
county
building
in
some.
C
Office
somewhere
outside
of
the
community,
primarily
right
and-
and
we
understand
that
that
happened,
because
decisions
had
to
be
made-
and
nobody
was
there
to
step
up,
possibly,
but
also
a
lot
of
that
was
just
sort
of
historic,
marginalization,
right
and
and
decisions
about
who
should
be
in
the
room
that
make
decisions.
C
So
one
of
the
things
that
we're
committed
to
is
making
sure
that
the
community
is
engaged
in
decision
making
as
much
as
possible
as
often
as
possible
and
not
just
decision
making,
but
but
reading
and
design
and
planning,
leading
in
the
in
the
transferring
control
of
resources.
Right
because
who
controls
the
resources
has
the
power
that
that
the
community
is
a
primary
beneficiary.
Well,
for
example,
with
the
teen
center
right.
C
We'd
really
like
to
see
folks
from
our
community
in
charge
of
the
team
Center
local
teens,
for
example,
right
rather
than
somebody
brought
in
from
some
other
place.
That
knows
how
to
run
a
teen
center
and
that's
why
they
put
them
there.
It's
not
about
any
other
place.
Another
critique
of
that.
But
it's
it's
just
to
point
out
the
need
to
build
the
whole
capacity
right
in
local
leadership,
locally,
LED
implementation,
management
and
evaluation
right.
We
need
to
be
able
to
say
when
things
are
working
and
when
things
aren't.
C
These
are
some
of
our
interns
this
past
summer.
That
did
the
work
that
that
I
was
mentioning
to
you.
They
come
primarily
from
the
South
Side,
although
from
other
areas
as
well,
they're
native
they
come
from
different
schools
in
the
Native
Americans
they're
Hispanic
Mexican
Central,
American
Anglo.
So
we
had
a
good
mix
of
students
participating
in
this
and
a
reflection
of
our
community
four
Gatherings
that
have
been
planned.
C
The
picture
here
is
not
from
our
Gatherings
is
from
the
Midtown
work
that
we
that
we
were
also
engaged
in
and
that's
an
example
of
one
of
the
Flyers
that
we
created
for
or
one
of
the
the
potentially
the
first
Gathering
you
know.
So
the
invitation
is
to
come
together
to
help
design
our
futures.
C
We've
got
two
meetings
done:
the
July
1
and
the
August
one.
We've
got
two
coming
up
in
November
and
December.
The
topics
that
we've
covered
so
far
are
Economic
Development,
Community
economic
development
and
health
Equity.
In
August,
we
looked
at
Education
and
Training
and
Recreation
and
wellness
and
I'll
go
over
some
of
the
highlights
of
that,
and
now
in
November,
we'll
be
looking
at
environmental
justice
and
housing
issues
and
in
December
we'll
look
at
arts
and
culture
as
well
as
food
Justice.
C
These
threats
to
community
are
things
that
have
been
identified
over
the
summer
prior
to
us,
starting
to
have
the
conversation
actually
over
the
spring,
and
these
are
things
that
came
out
of
focus
groups
that
we
were
having
the
threats
to
community
new
market
rate
housing,
a
displacement
of
current
residents,
demographic
changes
and
impacts
on
our
institutions.
C
One
of
the
real
concerns,
for
example,
is
that
places
like
El
Camino,
Real
Academy
right,
where
we
put
so
much
effort
and
focus
and
dual
language
that
if
the
community
ends
up
not
being
the
kind
that
traditionally
pushes
for
dual
language,
we
may
lose
that
those
are
very
real
possibilities
happening
now,
as
we
speak
there
in
other
places
around
the
district
and
other
places
around
the
country,
new
market
rate,
housing
and
impact
on
existing,
affordable
housing,
because
affordable
housing
can
be
sold
right,
it
could
be
sold
for
market
rate.
C
There's
there's
obviously
depending
on
how
they
got
it.
There's
limitations
right,
but
at
a
certain
point,
especially
given
the
how
the
the
price
of
housing
has
gone
up
here
at
a
certain
point,
even
with
those
limitations,
it
still
becomes
a
viable
option:
affordable
housing
and
concentrations
of
poverty
right
which
we
see
on
the
South,
Side,
affordable,
housing
being
just
a
small
part
of
new
development.
C
So
you
know
that
many
developers
make
the
argument
for
their
developments
by
focusing
on
the
10
or
15,
affordable
housing,
and
then,
if
you're
against
their
development,
then
you
must
be
against
affordable
housing,
rent
Land,
Lost
to
parks,
recreation,
open
space.
All
these,
you
know
the
all
these
empty
spaces
on
the
South
Side,
including
some
that
had
already
been
designated
open
space,
they're
being
lost
to
development
lack
of
amenity.
So
you
know
for
losing
all
that
land
to
development.
C
There's
going
to
be
no
place
to
put
the
things
that
we
need:
libraries,
clinics,
Recreation,
Center
senior,
centers
Etc,
a
concerned,
as
well
as
the
Industrial
Development,
just
west
of
us
west
of
599
we're
involved
in
an
EJ
campaign
with
some
asphalt
plants
over
there.
C
The
cumulative
impacts
on
our
community
are
are
horrendous
and
we're
the
most
overex
we're
the
most
exposed
Community
to
covet
as
well,
and
we
don't
know
the
science
I
was
in
a
meeting
earlier
with
Presbyterian
and
they're
very
concerned
about
the
impacts
of
long
covet,
not
just
on
physical
health
right.
You
know
if
you've
been
exposing
and
you've
got
all
these
pollutants
coming
into
your
lungs
and
there's
already
a
high
incidence
of
asthma
Etc
what
happens
with
long
covert?
C
What
are
the
impacts
for
physical
health
as
well
as
behavioral,
right
so
they're,
starting
to
make
connections
between
covet
exposure
and
Behavioral
Health
opportunity
zones
that
we
haven't
heard
much
about,
but
there's
still
something
that
was
seen
as
a
Potential
Threat
and
then
cultural
and
physical
displacement.
The
physical
displacement
we've
mentioned
a
little
bit
the
cultural
displacement
it's
about.
Who
then,
has
that
the
loudest
voice
is
the
most
organized
voices
and
then
starts
speaking
for
our
community
that
they
just
moved
into
right.
These
are
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
identified.
C
So
these
are
the
results,
some
some
highlights,
and
these
aren't
prioritizations.
These
are
just
some
things
that
I
pulled
out
from
the
first
meeting,
which
was
about
Community
Health,
Equity
and
Community
Economic
Development.
We
have
some
questions
about
assets
and
we
asked
them
to
also
give
some
ideas
about
short-term
priorities
and
long-term
priorities
in
terms
of
assets.
They
mentioned
a
handful
of
community-based
organizations.
We
don't
have
many,
but
we
do
have
maybe
three
or
four
on
the
South
Side
Public
Schools
those
buildings
themselves.
C
La
Familia
is
our
only
sort
of
local
Clinic
that
works
with
with
a
low-income
population,
Credit,
Union
and
west,
because
of
a
project
that
we
had
during
the
summer
where
we
were
working
with
30
potential
30
future
business
owners,
young
entrepreneurs
in
a
money
learning
lab
another
asset
that
they
mentioned
was
our
arts
and
culture
program,
the
ukulele
for
floristas
that
we've
got
going
there
that
actually
one
of
the
members
of
your
Community
Development
commission
is
leading,
and
of
course
they
mentioned
us
in
in
the
mutual
Aid
Network
short-term
priorities
they
mentioned
was
parks
right.
C
We
we
really
only
have
two
and
they're
on
the
extreme
edges
of
the
south
side
right,
there's
the
swan
Park
and
there's
Las
Vegas
Park
and
in
between
there
isn't
any
there's
parklets
right
that
are
connected
to
developments
Etc.
But
aside
from
those
two,
we
really
don't
have
any
and
unless
you're
like
within
five
blocks
of
either
one
of
those
they're
not
accessible,
save
self
Metals
open
space.
C
That
was
one
of
the
the
short-term
priorities
that
people
identified
because
of
our
conversations
and
our
work
around
covet
health
clinics
and
because
of
the
half
the
lack
of
health
clinics
right.
Health
clinics
was
something
that
they
brought
up:
Community
Food
Gardens
co-ops,
support
for
local
small
businesses,
local
Arts
and
Cultural
programming,
senior
services
and
free
Youth,
Sports
and
activities
during
the
long-term
priorities
in
integrated
Community
Development
plan
designed
and
led
by
local
communities.
C
Right
this
at
the
second
meeting
talking
about
Education
and
Training,
as
well
as
Recreation
and
wellness,
we
ask
questions
a
little
bit
differently
and
we
so
we
asked
about
assets
and
opportunities
and
then
risks
and
challenges,
assets
and
opportunities
that
mentioned
school
buildings
again,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
have
in
most
areas
of
the
South
Side
paid
youth
internships.
C
They
saw
as
a
priority
and
we're
happy
that
the
city
is
supporting
that
our
projects,
with
with
the
Santa
Fe
Public
Schools
project-based
learning,
which
is
again
something
that
the
city
has
been
supporting.
C
We
have
our
Indo
puertas
and
Plaza
Community,
which
are
adult
education
projects,
the
trails,
the
two
parks
after
school
programming,
the
Boys
and
Girls
Club,
school-based
Services,
that,
like
those
provided
like
by
communities
and
schools,
summer,
youth
programs,
Community
cultural
knowledge
through
Arts
house,
which
have
done
a
lot
of
work
with
grief
counseling
over
the
last
couple
of
years
in
the
South
Side
Library.
So
those
were
seen
as
assets
and
potential
opportunities
for
for
Community
Development.
The
risks
and
challenges
that
were
that
came
out
of
that
meeting.
C
One
and
and
I've
talked
to
a
couple
of
you
about
this
very
little
in
the
way
of
adult
education
and
training
in
Spanish
right,
young
immigrant
moms
Spanish-speaking
moms
were
the
most
impacted
sector
of
our
economy
of
the
workforce
here
in
Santa
Fe,
but
many
of
them
were
in
the
informal
sector,
but
in
terms
of
the
recovery
work,
there's
very
very
little,
almost
nothing
in
terms
of
retraining,
retooling
or
supporting.
Folks
from
that
from
that
that
is,
the
sector.
C
Loss
of
bilingual
education
in
schools
came
up
as
a
as
a
risk
access
to
school
buildings.
You
know
school
buildings
are
an
opportunity,
but
not
if
we
can't
use
them
or
they're
all
they're
closed
after
school
and
on
weekends,
when
they
could
be
available
to
the
community
for
a
variety
of
things.
C
Funding
and
bureaucracy
are
a
challenge.
Resource
is
not
convenient
and-
and
that's
primarily
a
conversation
about
her
point
about
most
of
the
resources
and
north
of
Airport
Road,
there's
very
little
available
right,
housing,
commercial
spaces,
there's
very
little
commercial
space
available.
There's
no
public
meeting
spaces
on
the
South
Side
food,
Justice
pollution,
contamination,
overexposure
to
covid
and
little
meaningful.
Community
input,
so
those
are
the
challenges
that
that
we're
seeing,
but
in
in
each
of
our
meetings
and
in
general,
are
our
young
people,
our
families
Etc?
What
they
have
said.
C
A
Thank
you
so
much
really
appreciate
it,
and
if
we
could
please
get
that
presentation,
email
to
the
committee
and
to
Loretta
so
that
we
could
also
get
it
uploaded
into
the
packet
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
view.
That
would
be
wonderful.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
will
now
open
it
up
to
members
of
the
committee.
Any
questions
comments.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
Mr
Acosta
for
being
here
and
presenting
this
to
us
I.
It
has
been
something
that
we've
that
I
have
attended.
F
First
couple
of
meetings,
I
think
the
third
one
you
attempted
was
during
one
of
our
Council
meetings,
so
we
weren't
able
to
attend
that
if,
if
it
didn't,
if
it
happened,
however,
I
I
see
the
the
importance
of
the
work
that
you
guys
are
doing
and
how
you
are
bringing
together
the
community
of
the
south
side,
City
South,
whatever
we
want
to
designate
the
area
as,
but
you
know
being
attentive
to
the
opportunity
that
we
have
hopefully
going
forward
with
collaboration
with
the
city
and
and
the
community
different
boards
and
and
to
create
something
that
is
inclusive
of
all
and
I.
F
Think
that's
the
biggest
Target
I
think
we
need
to
not
lose
sight
of
is
how
do
we
support
the
community
because
this
is
where
they
live.
This
is
where
they,
you
know.
Yes,
they
work
in
other
areas,
but
you
know
the
quality
of
life
and
that's
where
we
are
quality
of
life
committee.
F
This
is
this
is
where
they
live.
This
is
where
they
they
gather.
This
is
where
they
come
together
and
shop,
you
know
and
where
do
they
shop?
Where
do
they
go
play?
F
You
know
how
are
kids
safe
out
there
I
think
you
bring
up
a
very
interesting
point
in
regards
to
public
spaces,
and
not
only
that,
but
our
our
our
schools,
because
we
already
have
a
lot
of
very
nice
places
that
could
be
utilized
if
we
can
be
partnered
with
the
public
schools,
and
we
obviously
have
somebody
here
that
works
for
the
public
schools.
F
I
know
you
know
they
they
could
definitely,
hopefully,
if
you
can
Bridge
those
gaps
and
utilize
some
of
these
valuable
Assets
in
our
community
that
it
can
be
beneficial
to
to
our
kids
and
I.
Think
that's
the
one
of
the
major
points
that
I'd
like
to
to
bring
about
is
that
is
it's
the
Youth
of
our
community
that
we
really
need
to
focus
on
to.
They
are
our
future
leaders
and
thank.
C
We
have
been
talking
with
with
councilor
Amanda
Chavez
for
a
few
years,
but
also
Now
with
school
board
members,
Kate,
Noble
and
Romana
beta,
who
are
the
ones
that
represent
our
area
north
and
south
of
Airport
Road.
The
the
community
school
I
brought
Community
Schools
to
New
Mexico
when
I
was
on
the
aps
board,
and
we
did
it
in
partnership
with
the
city
and
the
county,
but
we
did
it
in
partnership
with
their
Community
Development
office
is
not
their
Community
Services
office.
C
The
whole
idea
was
to
build
healthy,
strong
communities,
not
not
to
stop
at
wraparound
Services
right
because
we
know.
Historically,
if
you
focus
on
services
and
not
change,
so
the
group
was
the
need
for
services
is
never
going
to
go
away
right.
It
just
becomes
a
self-fulfilling
budget
item
right
every
year,
and
so
that
was
the
the
intent
and
that
can
share
information
and
some
of
the
work
that
we
did
initially
over
there
in
Albuquerque
I
know
that
the
conversation
here
is
just
getting
started.
C
The
district
is
talking
about
reimagining
the
district
schools
Etc,
it's
a
great
opportunity
for
a
city
and
and
School
District
to
talk
about
framing
this
as
a
community
development
opportunity.
Rather
than
just
you
know
the
city,
giving
the
schools
more
money
for
resources
and
services.
F
It's
one
last
thing
and
and
again
going
back
to
the
whole
collaboration
of
the
community
and
getting
their
input
of
what
they're
looking
for
what
they
need
and
really
hearing
them
out,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
We
lose
sight
of
that
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
most
important
things,
the
other,
the
other
area
that
I
think
focus
on
for
Main
Street
areas,
not
just
how
we
build
it
out.
But
how
do
we
create
the
services
that
are
that
are
needed
by
the
community?
F
E
You
chair
hello,
Miguel,
thank
you
for
your
work.
I
was
really
wanting
some
more
information,
because
I
saw
that
as
an
asset,
we
talked
about
school
facilities
and
kind
of
going
back
to
Community
Schools,
but
I
know
that
you
know
when
you
have
a
school
that
you're
in
charge
of
and
the
resources
are
there
and
you're
reaching
out
to
the
community.
You
may
not
be
doing
it
in
the
most
appropriate
way
so
that
the
communities
truly
engaged,
and
so
I
was
just
wondering
if
those
conversations
with
the
commies
Community
sit.
E
Downs
is
if
that
ever
is
included
like
yes,
we
have
schools,
as
we
see
it
as
a
facility
asset.
We
know
that
some
of
them
are
Community
Schools.
We
know
that
some
of
them
have
after
school
programs.
We
know
some
of
them.
Have
these
programmings
are
the
resources
that
they're
trying
to
reach
out
to
the
community?
Actually
touching
the
community,
because
you
know
we
talk
about
when
we
work
together
in
the
past
about
messaging
and
how
important
that
is,
and
how
welcoming
a
community?
E
It
has
to
be
very,
very
intentional,
and
it
almost
has
to
be
dictated
by
the
community
itself,
which
is
really
tricky
to
do.
I
had
a
great
team
where
you
guys
led
me
in
that
discussion
and
because
I
know
how
effective
you
are
at
doing
that.
Are
you
talking
about
how
we
can
make
those
connections
with
Community
to
utilize
those
facilities
like
they
want
to
be
utilized,
because
you
know
the
district
is:
does
have
a
lot
of
resources
in
doing
that
and
it
kind
of
goes
back
to
I.
E
Had
this
interesting
conversation,
I
went
to
this
conference
about
trauma
and
someone
was
like,
if
only
we
had
facilities
that
could
just
catch
our
community
members
who
are
experiencing
trauma
and
need
resources,
and
someone
was
like.
E
We
do
have
those
facilities,
schools,
because
everyone
goes
through
schools
and
they
are
kind
of
this
safe,
this
net
to
catch
those
that
are
with
greatest
need-
and
it
was
just
such
an
interesting
concept
because
I'm,
like
that's
true,
like
every
generation,
eventually
goes
through
these
this
net,
which
is
our
Public
Schools
or
just
schools
in
general,
including
Charters
and
privates
private
schools.
And
so
how
do
we
make
sure
that
we
are
actually
having
that
large
impact
in
our
connection
with
the
community
in
those
facilities
that
catch
all
yeah.
C
Yeah
and
we
and
thank
you,
counselor
Charles,
for
your
question-
the
and
I've
been
at
that
at
this
for
a
long
time
and
in
three
countries,
I
actually
got
to
do
this
kind
of
work
in
Australia
and
also
in
Mexico
right
and
universally.
C
If
you
can
call
the
world
Universal
right,
it's
not
so
much
about
the
resources
that
makes
the
impact
it's
the
relationships
right
and
even
the
labels
right,
whether
it's
a
community
school
or
not,
a
community
school
is
not
as
important
as
whether
the
leadership
and
and
the
staff
of
that
school
is
is,
is
developing
transformational,
relationships
right
and
and
we're
working
with
a
project
called
in
Fronteras
education,
partnership
funded
by
and
we're
doing,
workshops
and
conversations
with
schools
and
school
districts
around
the
state,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
to
emphasize
to
schools
in
particular
right.
C
That
is
not
how
much
money
they're
putting
into
resources
and
how
many
you
know
children
are
being
given
that
particular
inoculation
or
whatever
right.
But
what
are
your
relationships
like
with
the
with
the
families
in
the
community,
and
how
can
you
use
funding
to
do
dual
capacity?
Work,
in
other
words,
build
a
capacity
of
both
the
schools
and
the
community
to
work
together.
E
C
C
So
if
we
were
able
to
look
at
schools,
not
at
schools
but
as
public
buildings,
right
public
resources
available
to
that
Community,
where,
during
a
certain
time
of
of
the
day,
it's
a
school
another
time
of
day,
it's
a
senior
center
during
another
time
of
day,
it
might
be
a
youth
center
on
weekends,
it
might
be
a
recreation
center
right.
It
starts
a
whole
different
conversation
right.
E
G
Veteriel,
thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
thank
Mr
Acosta
for
his
presentation
and
the
work
you
do
in
community.
That's
consistent
and
holding
people
accountable,
holding
government
accountable,
holding
community
members
accountable
for
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
I.
Think
with
your
presentation.
There
is
a
lot
of
Rich
information
from
the
community
members,
not
just
I.
Think
the
the
piece
I
like
the
best
is
that
there
was
lived
experiences
in
there,
so
it
was
not
just
about
well.
This
is
what
we
want.
It's
like.
G
This
is
what
we
experience,
and
this
is
what
we'd
like
to
change.
So
I
really
appreciate
that,
and
just
want
to
thank
you
for
the
community
centered
efforts.
You
do
on
The,
Daily
and
I
yeah,
I!
Guess
I
I'm
just
really
interested
like
this,
the
next
iterations
and
where
this
is
going
and
then
is
there
some
kind
of
timeline
that
we
that
we
have
to
meet
or
is
this
fluid?
Or
can
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
that?
Thank
you.
C
And
I
have
to
say
just
walking
in
here
today
was
like
coming
home.
You
know
other
friendly
faces
and
the
hugs
and
everything
I
don't
get
this
at
the
institution
here
today.
Maybe
when
the
full
council
is
here,
I
don't
get
it
either,
but
but
if
strange
to
be
out
in
public
again
right,
but
in
terms
of
where
we're
going
with
this.
C
So
we
didn't
put
these
two
two
next
meetings
and
then
one
or
two
meetings
with
that
will
be
the
strategic
planning
right
in
terms
of
and
I
forgot
to
mention
this
earlier.
There
are
some
requirements.
Aside
from
this
meeting
and
having
conversations,
we
have
to
come
up
with
a
project
a
priority
right
like
a
physical
kind
of
thing
that
that
that
that
we
can
then
focus
our
energies
and
our
work
around
could
be
a
community
resiliency
Hub.
You
know
it
could
be
some
kind
of
Mercado.
C
You
know
something
right
that
we
can
sort
of
point
to
and
say
we're
going
to
build
this,
and
hopefully
it
doesn't
take
15
years
like
the
teen
center.
The
other
thing
is
that
there
has
to
be
some
kind
of
organized
Merchants
Association.
C
Out
of
this
we've
been
in
conversation
with
the
chamber,
we've
been
in
conversation
with
the
Hispanic
chamber,
both
of
them
and
and
they're
helping
push
the
conversation
along
right,
but
and
they
understand,
hopefully,
that
we
need
focused
Airport
Road
conversation
right
that
it
can't
just
be
the
chamber
doing
this.
It
can't
just
be
the
Hispanic
chamber
of
doing
this.
C
There
has
to
be
a
focused
conversation
about
the
particular
issues,
challenges
and
opportunities
along
Airport
Road,
so
we've
been
working
on
on
that
as
well,
and
that's
that's
also
one
of
the
deliverables
and
then
a
plan
right.
Besides
the
the
the
the
focused
project
and
and
the
Woody
calling
the
the
merchants
Association
a
plan,
you
know
like
a
three-year
plan,
five
year
plan
for
for
moving
forward
at
that.
C
With
resources
and
funding
from
a
variety
of
places
right
to
help
us
and
and
hopefully
there'll
be
some
congruency
in
the
planning
right
with
the
school
district,
maybe
the
county,
maybe
other
institutions,
Presbyterian
and
and
Saint
Christus.
For
you
know,
so
we
can
have
various
commitments
of
support
and
funds
as
well
as
it's
for
the
projects,
as
well
as
the
continuing
support
of
capacity
building
on
the
south
side.
G
C
Okay,
I
suppose
I
was
committed
by
economic
people
or
translation
for
child
care
Etc,
and
for
when
we
do
those
strategic
planning
sessions.
C
Specifically
the
rest
of
this
has
been
our
time,
our
volunteers,
our
youth
interns,
that
you
know
they
were
paid
by
ped,
our
families
that
volunteer
their
time
folks
from
the
businesses
and
the
schools
that
show
up
neighborhood
association
reps,
you
know,
so
this
is
pretty
much
99
volunteer
up
until
now.
G
Right
and
maybe
Rich
could
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
any
as
they
move
forward,
because
you
know
10
000
doesn't
you
can
make
it
go
a
long
way,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
it's
not
sufficient
to
keep
a
Community
Driven
process
like
going
and
making
sure
that
you
have
child
care
and
food
and
all
that
so
I'm
just
curious.
If
there's
other
ways
like
how
you
all
were
envisioning
I
know
you
did
the
startup
amount,
but
was
there?
Was
there
another
path
forward?
You
were
thinking.
H
Madam,
chair
Council
Bluff,
thanks
for
the
question,
yeah
I'm,
very
proud
of
the
work
that
Miguel
has
done
because
he
did
it
on
his
own.
Usually
these
Main
Street
Urban
quarters
are
done
by
a
municipality
and
they
go
through
the
process
and
he
and
his
team
did
this
themselves.
So
it's
very
proud
moment,
I
think
for
our
city
and
for
Miguel
and
his
work.
H
The
investment
I
see
further
along
in
the
pathway
for
this
area
is
Beyond
just
that
initial
investment,
but
he
said
something
on
one
of
his
slides.
He
talked
about
community-led
development,
and
so
we
see
more
of
our
investment
there
financially
and
and
resources
from
the
team
so
as
he
gets
further
into
his
plan,
so
helping
him
find
funding
whether
we
match
funds
et
cetera,
building
that
plan
additionally
building
the
associations,
we
want
neighborhood
associations
there
so
helping
him
with
Outreach
promotion
Etc.
H
We
also
look
at
some
of
the
work
that
he's
going
to
do
that
will
tie
into
some
of
the
economic
development
we're
doing
like
with
El
Lucero
Crossing.
We
want
to
put
a
Food
Depot
there.
We
want
to
put
some
Workforce
Development
there
and
we
want
to
put
some
Workforce
housing
there,
so
we
will
work
with
his
Main
Street
group.
Additionally,
we
are
working
on
public
Wi-Fi
in
the
neighborhood,
so
we
look
to
see
him
helped
us
with
public
Wi-Fi,
not
just
in
the
highly
vulnerable
areas.
But
how
do
we
affect
it
for
business?
G
Great,
that's
great
to
hear
I
guess
I
just
assumed
because
you
said
Main
Street
there
was
actually
funding
coming
from
the
state,
although
this
looks
very
different
from
their
processes
that
they've
done
in
other
parts
of
of
the
state.
So
were
you
going
to
add
something?
Well,
their.
C
Funding
supports
our
technical
assistance
right,
the
Consultants,
who
have
been
great
at
answering
questions
and
questions
that
they
don't
normally
address
right,
because
this
whole
process,
until
we
get
to
the
strategic
planning,
is
something
that
they
don't
normally
do.
But
I
do
need
to
say
that
Mr,
Brown
and
Liz
have
been
great
in
terms
of
being
able
to
bounce
ideas.
Rich
and
I
have
been
in
frequent
conversations
thinking
through
brainstorming
checking
on
our
families
and
our
health
and
our
operations
or
whatever.
So
so,
it
hasn't
been.
C
We
haven't
been
denied
any
funding
or
or
barred
from
any
kind
of
move.
You
know
progress,
you
know
it's
been
a
mutual
understanding
that
the
investment
will
come,
but
the
investment
will
come
when
it's
appropriate
right
and
we've
been
able
to
manage
this
with
other
other
supports
pulling
out
of
other
parts
of
our
of
our
budget.
C
Is
there
so
so
you
know
the
so
we
we
have
sort
of
a
vision
right.
It's
changes
every
day,
but
we
do
have
a
vision
for
when
specific
Investments
might
make
the
most
sense,
especially
given
some
of
the
resources
that
are
coming
down
from
the
federal
government.
Right,
but
also
sort
of
the
local
prioritizations
here
at
the
state
level
and
the
city
as
well
great,
yes,.
H
And
councilor
Vera,
if
I,
could
ask
Miguel
to
talk
about
his
concept
around
work-based
learning
that
we're
working
with
the
public
schools
on.
If,
if
he
could
talk
about
that,
because
it's
very
unique,
because
no
one
else
really
came
to
the
table
with
the
idea
and
I
think
it's
a
really
powerful
one.
And
as
you
look
at
his
community-led
development,
it's
a
perfect
example
of
what
glumelia
development's
all
about
so
Miguel.
If
you
could
sort
of
talk
a
little
about
your
concept,
around
Workforce
work
based
learning,
which
and.
C
C
The
idea
has
been
developed
in
partnership
with
future
focused
education
right
and
it's
based
on
enabling
work
that
was
done
at
the
PED
with
the
legislature,
so
when
they
developed
what
they're
calling
the
Capstone
framework
right
and
and
work
based
learning,
it
created
an
opportunity
to
work
with
young
people
high
school
age,
young
people
to
earn
credits
towards
graduation
by
doing
work-based
experiences
with
an
educational
component.
Obviously
right
and
having
the
projects
cover,
you
know
sort
of
core
learning
areas
and
and
core
subjects
Etc,
but
basically
it's
a
demonstration
right.
C
It's
a
way
of
being
being
able
to
demonstrate
competencies
through
experience
and
through
work,
rather
than
through
tests
or
or
homework
right.
We
piloted
it
they've
been
doing
it
in
Albuquerque
for
a
couple
of
years
already,
through
the
leadership
schools
like
the
health
leadership,
High,
School,
Technology
leadership,
High,
School,
Ace
leadership,
high
school
and
the
new
one
is
the
the
one
that
focuses
on
entrepreneurial
work.
I'm
spacing
it
right
now,
but
anyway,
here
we
piloted
it.
This.
C
Last
year
we
had
several
students
from
Capitol
High
School
in
the
spring
that
the
city
helped
fund
their
their
paid
internships.
They
worked
with
us.
They
helped
get
everything
ready
for
the
summer
work
that
we
did
both
in
terms
of
Main
Street,
as
well
as
our
summer
leadership
programs
and
all
five
of
them
were
in
danger
of
not
graduating
four
of
them.
Ultimately,
all
four
were
in
danger
of
not
graduating
and
they
all
graduated.
They
all
graduated
successfully,
the
the
the
the.
C
What
do
you
call
the
the
pilot
worked
and
this
summer
we
engaged
25
young
people
through
the
Peds
funding
right,
so
do
you
know
I
mean
they
just
did
amazing
work
all
summer
related
to
Main
Street
to
climate
Justice
work
to
community
we've
been
working
with
Parks
I
mean
not
parks
with
the
mpo.
They
did
some
Community
mapping.
C
You
know
just
all
kinds
of
amazing
things
that
they've
been
able
to
do
so
now
we're
at
the
point-
and
this
is
going
through
committees
at
the
district
right
I
mean
at
the
city.
Now
we're
at
the
point
where
the
school
district
is
adopted
now
as
a
formal
program
and
there'll
be
two
projects
that
will
develop
out
of
this,
one
will
be
work
based:
learning
opportunities
for
students
already
enrolled
in
in
Santa
Fe,
Public
Schools
and
the
other
one.
C
The
one
that
will
be
leading
will
be
for
students
that
we
re-engage
so
and
and-
and
it
will
be-
you
know
universally
accessible,
so
it
can
be
in
English
and
Spanish
whatever
right,
so
that
so
still
in
our
program,
we,
you
know,
students
won't
have
that
barrier,
so
we're
gonna,
I
think
take
about
25
students
that
will
be
re-enrolled
in
in
the
public
schools
through
desert
sage,
Academy
I
think
is
where
they're
going
to
be
placed,
that's
going
to
be
the
the
credit
granting
institution,
but
we'll
be
working
with
them
in
partnership
with
the
city
and
others
on
community-based
learning
projects
really
exciting.
C
G
Exactly
thank
you.
That's
exciting.
That's
a
I
think
that's
a
having
different
options
for
students
that
feel
like
they're
pushed
out
or
whatever
situation
they're
in
that
to
be
able
to
have
them
more
engaged
and
more
connected
to
the
community
as
well.
Thank
you
so
much
Miguel
for
everything
you
do
and
for
your
community
centered
efforts
and
we
look
forward
to
hearing
more
and
also
understanding
where
we
can
plug
in
and
support.
Thank
you.
D
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
Miguel,
just
just
want
to
thank
you
and
your
team
for
the
tremendous
passion
and
commitment
that
you
bring
to
ensure
that
the
community
voice
is
heard
is
we've
worked
together
for
decades
seems
like
forever,
but
and,
and
that
has
always
been
at
the
core
of
your
work.
So
thank
you
for
continuing
that
commitment
to
community.
D
It's
evident
that
the
voice
is
being
represented,
and-
and
thank
you
for
coalescing
the
voice
and-
and
one
thing
I
think
that
is
even
more
unique
with
the
engagement
you're
doing,
is
ensuring
that
the
youth
voice
is
being
engaged
and
not
only
engaged
they're
leading
they're,
not
tokens
they're,
not
part
of
the
process
to
say
check
the
box.
We've
had
somebody
under
20
in
the
room,
they're
actually
helping
to
lead,
which
is
a
model
that
we
should
consistently
have
in
any
type
of
Engagement
process.
So
thank
you
for
that.
It's
it's
it's
critical.
D
They
they
own
the
process
and,
as
you
know,
when
youth
are
involved,
they
bring
so
many
voices
to
the
table
and
it's
not
only
Young
Folks.
They
bring
grandmas
grandpas,
uncles,
aunties,
Tio's,
cousins,
whoever
it
is
to
the
table
that
wouldn't
have
been
there
before.
So
just
want
to.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
other
than
that.
No
questions
just
keep
up.
The
great
work
know
that
you
got
a
team
behind
you
willing
to
support
you.
D
We've
got
lots
of
lots
of
interest
and
and
if
there's
anything
that
we
can
do
to
further
support,
please
let
us
know
we
appreciate
it.
Councilwoman
said
ten
thousand
dollars
is
a
shoestring
budget
and
I
know.
You've
done
you've
moved
some
mountains
off
of
zero
budget,
but
soon
will
be
the
hard
hard
task
and
let
us
know
if
we
need
to
work
with
Mr
Browning,
how
much
resources
will.
C
We
ultimately
get
to
our
young
people
also
designed
that
logo,
the
the
circle,
the
South
Side
pride
and
different
things.
There
was
a
couple
that
looked
a
little
bit
more
gangster.
We
figured
would
just
put
those
to
decipher
later
right,
but
but
that's
so
that's
their
design
as
well.
A
Much
okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Miguel
I
do
have
just
a
couple
of
quick
comments
and
questions.
Wanna
want
to
come
back,
don't
leave
I,
just
I
go
last,
so
my
colleagues
have
have
all
said.
You
know,
thank
you.
So
much
for
the
work
and
and
I
completely
agree
and
the
unique
it
shouldn't
be
a
unique
approach,
but
it
really.
A
What
keeps
coming
to
mind
is
that
assets-based
approach
and
I
mean
it
really
came
when
you
were
discussing
the
the
work
based
learning
program
and
and
really
looking
at
some
students.
Don't
do
well
on
tests
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
they
don't
have
the
knowledge
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
they
don't
have
the
skills
and
just
all
of
these
different
ways
that
that
you
and
your
team
and
the
community
really
are
finding
to
build
assets
and
recognize
those
assets.
I
really
appreciate
one
thing
that
I
think
is
important.
A
You
know,
there's
this
conversation
around
decision
making
and
and
really
making
sure
that
voices
are
heard
and
Richard
already
mentioned.
You
know
some
of
the
economic
development
work
that
is
happening,
but
to
your
point
you
know
how
we
really
build.
The
community
is
important
and
I'm,
hoping
that,
with
some
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
with
the
general
plan
Amendment
and
the
upcoming
planning
that
there
is,
if
there's
not
I'm
hoping
these
connections
to
really
plug
in,
because
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about,
you
know
kind
of
this
big
macro.
A
Let's
look
at
the
city,
you
know
from
bird's
eye
view,
but
then
also
these
corridors
and
neighborhoods,
and
how
are
we
doing
planning
there
so
has
that
connection
already
been
established?
Has
it
been
discussed
of
really
that
they're
you're
already
building
this
opportunity
and
information
that
that
really
should
be
plugged
in
when
we
start
doing
the
community
engagement
with
the
general
plan.
C
It
hasn't
formally
yet,
but
but
there
is
Outreach
already
to
to
make
sure
that
we,
aside
from
you
know
the
big
bird's
eye
view
work
that
there's
also
sort
of
the
community-based
neighborhood-based
street
level
work
as
well
for
sure.
Definitely
wonderful.
A
And
I
also
think
it'll
be
really
interesting
for
us
to
hear
as
we're
develop.
You
know,
as
as
the
the
land
use
team
and
the
the
contractor.
You
know
about
the
community
engagement
pieces
that
have
worked
for
the
work
you've
done
on
the
south
side
because,
as
you
mentioned
before,
there's
there's
already
a
lot
of
barriers.
There
is
historical
reasons,
some
not
too
far
off
in
history.
A
Recent
historical
reasons
why
this
community
may
not
be
willing
to
come
to
the
table
and
how
that
trust
is
built,
is
really
important
and
really
crucial,
so
rich
I
guess
this
is
to
you:
we've
really
making
sure
that
we
we
are
able
to
work
with
the
groups
that
have
built
the
camaraderie
and
Trust
in
this
community
and
how
we
think
about
that
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
where
that
key
component
is
going
to
be
relevant,
I
mean
we've
discussed
it
at
Midtown
and
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
But
you
know.
C
That
you
know
one
of
the
things
one
of
the
ways
that
we
talk
about
this
work
is
the
Civic
infrastructure
right
in
closing
and
developing
the
Civic
infrastructure
and
I.
Think
this
long-range,
you
know,
master
plan
or
or
major
planning
effort
is
a
great
opportunity
to
do
that
kind
of
work,
I,
I'm,
born
and
raised
Chicago
and
growing
up
in
Chicago.
All
of
us
had
to
study
the
the
Chicago
plan,
the
Burnham
plan
right.
C
It
was
part
of
the
curriculum
right
and
it
wasn't
so
much
that
we
were
all
going
to
become
planners
right,
but
it
was
to
understand
Civics,
right
and
Civic
engagement
and
how
decisions
get
made
right,
and
why
does
your
city
look
the
way
it
does
right?
Why
are
all
the
streets
in
a
perfect
Cartesian
graph?
You
know
where
everywhere
else
you
know
you
keep.
You
know
going
in
circles
right.
You
know
how
did
one?
Why
does
everybody
have
a
park
right?
C
You
know
so
so
this
is
a
I
think
a
great
opportunity
to
invest
in
civic
education,
another
place
where
we
can
partner
with
the
schools
and
with
other
entities
right
so
that,
as
this
process
builds
out,
we
can
be
having
these
conversations
in
schools
at
all
levels.
Right.
C
We
can
be
having
these
conversations
with
families
and
and
parents
and
and
neighborhood
associations
where
we
can
practice
some
things
that
maybe
are
not
policy
yet,
but
we
can
sort
of
play
with
you
know
like
say:
participatory
budgeting,
right,
participatory
planning,
right
local
decision
making
around
around
services
around
you
know
X,
Y
and
Z.
So
you
know
it's
a
space.
You
know
like
a
planning
space
where
we
could
play
with
some
ideas.
C
A
You
because
I
do
I
agree,
that's
I
mean
that's
really
it's
it's.
How
do
we
build
this
bridge?
You
know
how
do
we
rebuild
the
bridge
and
and
utilize
these
skills
so
and
tools
that
we
have
to
really
re-engage
all
parts
of
our
city
enter.
H
Could
I
add
something
to
your
question
and
comments
so
I
want
to
also
let
you
know
that
the
planning
land
use
department
does
have
budget
set
aside
in
this
fiscal
year
and
probably
started
in
the
new
year
on
neighborhood
planning.
And
so
it's
an
offshoot
of
the
general
plan
and.
C
H
Mr
Cosa
will
get
involved,
we'll
be
a
part
of
the
study
that
we
build
the
general
plan,
but
as
we
Branch
out,
that
will
be
part
of
what
the
work
that
we'll
be
doing
almost
short
to
long
term
planning
and
and
to
his
earlier
point
about
it's
not
just
the
resources,
the
relationships,
that's
where
I
think
this
neighborhood
planning
is
going
to
come
into
place,
we're
going
to
build
that
portfolio
of
relationship,
so
we
know
going
forward.
How
do
we
look
at
the
future
of
the
city?
H
How
do
we
look
at
the
future
neighborhoods?
So
that
is
something
that
planning
land
use
will
be
working
on
in
the
new
year,
but.
D
A
And
I
said
at
a
budget
hearings
and
I'll
say
it
again
that
I
think
that
where
those
dollars
are
allocated
is
is
crucial
and
that
we
are
really
paying
attention
to
parts
of
the
city
that
have
not
had
the
focus
and
attention
as
other
parts
have
in
the
past,
as
well
as
parts
of
the
city
where
growth
is
happening,
because
that
is
the
time
when
you
want
to
do
the
planning
before
the
buildings
are
built
and
before
you
know,
things
are,
are
allocated
in
set
in
stone
and
the
South
Side.
A
C
I
could
just
add
one
more
thing:
language
Justice.
We
need
much
more
of
the
budget
committed
to
translation,
to
documents
to
interpretation
for
meetings,
Etc
historical
records.
Otherwise
it's
not
really
Equitable
access
and
we've.
You
know
we've
shown
up
at
too
many
meetings,
even
after
institutions
have
made
commitments
to
language
access
and
they'll
point
at
me,
oh
Miguel's.
Here
he
can
translate
it's
like.
No,
that's
not
the
way
it
works
right,
so
I've
refused.
So
so
really
that
really
needs
to
be
a
huge
part
of
the
thinking
from
the
beginning.
C
Right,
because
a
lot
of
this
work,
you
know,
like
you're,
saying
you
know
getting
people
to
the
table.
A
lot
of
this
work
has
to
be
conceptualized
differently,
not
just
translated
right.
So
we
have
to
conceptualize
on
the
society
specifically
where
we
have
the
largest
Spanish-speaking
concentration,
Native,
American
concentration,
African-American
concentration.
C
If
you
go
into
the
back
corners
of
some
of
the
mobile
home
parks,
we
probably
have
the
biggest
hippie
concentration
so
in
in
Santa
Fe,
each
one
of
those
deserves
conceptualization
of
how
this
city
develops
in
language
and
approaches
that
are
appropriate
for
them.
Rather
than
just
doing
our
English
version
and
then
translating
it
right,
because
a
lot
is
Lost
in
Translation,
absolutely.
A
Well,
fun,
teaser,
the
language,
accessibility,
study,
results
and
information
will
be
coming
to
the
quality
of
life
meeting
in
the
next
we'll
we'll
find
out
tomorrow,
we'll
be
doing
some
planning,
but
in
the
next
couple
months.
So
you
know
that'll
be
a
really
great
opportunity
for
the
city
to
dive
in
and
look
at.
We
know
that
we
need
to
improve
and
so
really
drilling
down
on
what
those
opportunities
are
and
gives
the
governing
body
an
opportunity
to
allocate
funding
and
resources
towards
that.
So
thank
you
for
that.
Thank.
C
A
A
Find
it,
but
we
look
forward
to
this
report
all.
A
You
thank
you
so
much.
Okay,
let
us
move
along
to
the
items
pulled
on
the
consent
agenda.
So
item
H.
This
is
consideration
of
a
resolution
creating
a
one-year
pilot
program
to
encourage
and
incentivize
employers
to
pay
for
employee
parking
in
City
of
Santa
Fe
parking
facilities
at
Sandoval,
Street,
the
Santa
Fe
Community
convention
center
and
the
rail
yard.
A
It
is
being
sponsored
by
councilor,
Chavez
and
co-sponsored
by
councilor,
Lindell,
counselor,
Lee,
Garcia
and
counselor
me
counselor
cassage
myself,
and
we
have
Regina
wheeler
here
to
present,
and
this
was
pulled
by
councilman
veterial
councilwoman.
Did
you
want
a
small
presentation
from
director
wheeler
or
did
he
want
to
just
jump.
G
G
That
really
was
trying
to
encourage
people
well
for
one
to
park
in
our
parking
garages,
but
also
to
incentivize
it
based
on
the
income
levels,
and
you
know
when
we
first
started
this
when
I
was
first
on
Council,
we
were
trying
to
work
on
issues
of
getting
the
farmers.
I
was
telling
councilor
who's
over
there
Travis
about
how
we
were
trying
to
get
Farmers
to
be
able
to
park
free
on
Saturday.
It
was
such
a
hard
thing
to
do.
It
was
didn't
work.
Well,
we
got
pushback
from
staff.
We
tried
it.
G
I
still
would
like
to
pursue
that,
but
I
just
put
that
as
a
bookmark,
because
it
was
really
important
to
be
able
to
have
Farmers
be
able
to
park
at
the
rail
yard
to
be
able
to
participate
in
the
farmer's
market.
G
That
being
said,
then
we
kind
of
moved
on
to
this
parking
option
to
be
able
to
have
the
lower
parking
monthly
parking
option
for
folks
that
made
15
or
less
and
I
think
what
was
hard
for
me
about
that
is
that
there
were
very
few
workers
that
heard
about
it,
and
so
employers
did
not
tell
their
employees
about
that
option.
So
then
it
appeared
that
people
didn't
think
it
was
a
great
resource
that
a
good
pilot
or
a
good
try
to
to
try
to
get
people
to
park
there.
G
So
what
I'm
wanting
to
know
is
how
we
plan
to
promote
the
program
so
that
it's
equitably
available
for
truly
low-wage
workers
and
that
their
employers
are
prioritizing
this,
so
that
they
can
know
that
this
option
is
available.
E
Thank
you,
councilwoman,
so
I
think
that
the
way
the
way
we're
going
about
this
is
really
through
the
business
owner
and
I
think
that's
going
to
make
the
difference
so
we've
already
partnered,
so
the
Hispanic
chamber
of
commerce,
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
Rail
Yard,
are
going
to
be
part
of
the
process
and
community
in
messaging,
but
also
serving
businesses
on
the
impact.
So
it's
going
to
be
a
long-term
conversation
throughout
the
pilot,
because
I
like
that,
you
mentioned
the
farmers
market
and
parking
with
that,
but
I'm
hoping
to
receive
more
than
anything.
E
Yes,
we
want
to
provide
parking
for
the
employees,
especially
the
employees
that
often
come
from
the
south
side
of
town
and
don't
have
the
luxury
a
lot
of
times
of
getting
to
work
any
other
way,
so
that
that
is
the
purpose
that
you
know
we're
trying
to
to
fulfill
here.
But
the
other
component
is
really
getting
an
idea
of
parking
in
general
downtown
because
of
the
issues
that
we
run
into.
So
the
data
component
of
this
resolution
is
really
important
in
just
figuring
out
when
we
do
have
a
program
that
may
increase
parking.
E
How
does
that
impact
downtown?
Is
that
something
that
we
could
look
at
in
a
larger
way
at
a
later
time,
if
we're
more
strategic
about
it,
so
both
business
owner
involvement,
some
of
those
that
work
closely
with
business
owners
and
their
involvement,
and
that
monitoring
of
data
are
really
important
here
and
I
think
is
going
to
keep
the
conversation
going
throughout
the
pilot.
G
So
from
what
I
heard
about
the
promotion
of
this
program
or
pilot
program,
the
Hispano
chamber
we'll
get
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
involved
in
the
railyard
Corp
and
just
I
think
the
railyard
Corp
they
are
tied
in
to
their
businesses.
By
necessity.
However,
his
Hispano
and
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
aren't
necessarily
don't
have
the
area
that
we're
talking
about.
They
don't
necessarily
have
membership,
so
I'm
wondering
if
the
city
is
planning
on
promoting
this
in
some
way,
so
that
all
businesses
that
are
not
affiliated
with
these
three
will
know
about
the
program.
E
And
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
I
just
know
that,
when
speaking
with
the
Chamber
of
Commerce,
specifically
who
kind
of
shared
what
they
can
utilize
as
they
said
that
they
have
an
email
list
of
those
within
the
parameters
defined
by
the
resolution
and
that
they
were
going
to
that
they
could
blast
any
type
of
communication
or
are
serving
out
that
we
may
have.
Okay.
G
G
That
would
probably
benefit
from
this
and
their
employees
that
that
aren't
making
that
much
money
and
would
would
need
a
affordable
parking
option.
I.
E
Think
that's
a
great
idea.
Maybe
director,
Willer
and
I
can
work
with
the
city
clerk's
office
to
get
some
communication
out
on
that
collaborate
with
them
great.
G
I
Sure,
thank
you.
Councilor
vibriel
I
believe
it's
within
the
Sero
De
Peralta
Circle.
G
The
circle,
which
is
a
big
area
and
I
guess
the
other
thing
is
I-
think
there
will
be
a
lot
of
interest
if
people
do
know
about
it.
So
we
are
capping.
This
at
150
permits
is
that
what
I
read.
I
That's
correct:
we
actually
don't
even
have
that
many
spaces
available
in
the
garages.
So
that's
about
50
over
what
we
calculate
are
available.
So
we
thought
we
should
some
amount
that
we
could
manage
and
gather
data
for
the
future.
G
I
G
Permits,
okay,
all
right,
well,
I'm,
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
this
evolves
I
think
it's
a
good
pilot
to
try
out
and
see
what
that
could.
What
that
could
look
like
into
the
future,
and
we
know
we
realize
that
there
is
revenue
that
comes
from
our
parking
and
to
try
to
find
a
balance,
and
so
I
understand
staff's
kind
of
maybe
conundrum
with
it.
Is
there.
I
The
fiscal
year
23
budget-
it's
already
established,
so
it
doesn't,
but
in
fiscal
year
24
with
our
decreased
Revenue,
it's
more
than
an
fte's
worth
of
Revenue,
that's
lost
by
the
program.
Okay,
four
thousand
dollars
is
the
minimum.
We
expect
that
definitely
counts
as
if
we
have
sold
those
basis
permits,
but
not
if
we
had
just
gotten
revenue
from
those
spaces
of
people
just
parking,
because
we
make
like
three
times
as
much
that
way.
What.
E
Can
I
just
add
something
energy,
correct
me
if
I'm,
wrong
and
I
think
this
conversation
was
really
hard
when
we
were
discussing
it
because
this
it
it's
like
potential
loss
based
on
if
passes,
would
have
been
purchased
full
price.
So
that's
what
make
that's
why
we
really
wanted
the
data
with
this
is
because
a
lot
of
really
defining
some
of
the
loss
that
would
come
would
be
if
certain
things
occurred
a
certain
way.
E
So
the
data
is
really
gonna.
Give
us
information
on
what
a
loss
would
actually
be,
which
is
something
we
could
work
with
more
accurately,
I
believe
we're.
I
Actually
sold
out
for
full
price
permits
in
the
Sandoval
garage
right
now
and
there's
a
waiting
list
and
there
has
been
a
waiting
list
on
the
rail
yard
and
the
convention
center
as
well
so
I
mean
there's,
and
there
also
is
a
lot
of
businesses
that
buy
full
price
permits.
Now
so
they'll
definitely
switch
so
I.
Think
there's
not
I,
think
you're
right
we'll
definitely
get
better
data
after
the
after
the
pilot.
G
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
think
the
revenue
lasted
a
potentially
77
000,
but
we'd
have
to
see
how
it
unfolds.
I
think
those
are
all
my
questions.
G
A
You
so
much
councilwoman.
A
Are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
from
the
committee
and,
if
not
I,
do
see
an
amendment
on
here
so
I,
don't
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
miss
that
before,
but
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
prior
to
getting
to
that
Amendment
and
if
not,
counselor
Travis,
would
you
like
to
move
your
Amendment
or.
E
Yes,
so
we
just
to
help
everyone
understand
why
there
is
amendment
we
left
out
the
very
important
portion
of
the
resolution,
which
is
the
reduction
in
the
purchase
price
for
a
pass,
which
is
actually
reduced
from
35
to
25.
And
so
we
are
inserting
that
on
line
12
of
Page
Three,
the
25
per
sorry
at
a
rate
of
25
per
pass
per
month,
and
so
I'd
like
to
move
that
Amendment.
B
A
A
Motion
pass
wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
and
moving
on
to
item
J.
This
is
consideration
of
a
resolution
establishing
city
of
Santa
fe's
priorities
for
consideration
by
the
New
Mexico
State
Legislature
during
the
56th
legislature,
state
of
New
Mexico
first
session
2023
and
director
wheeler
is
here
to
present
again
councilman
veteriel
presentation
or
just
jump
to
questions.
G
G
These
are
always
fun
every
year
to
do
and
there's
a
lot
of
great
stuff
in
here.
Don't
get
me
wrong.
There's
a
lot
of
areas
that
we've
wanted
to
highlight:
Through
The
Years,
with
this
prioritization
for
our
legis
for
the
legislature
coming
up
and
what
I
was
wanting
us
to
talk
about
today
is
just
making
sure
we're
prioritizing
our
I'm
trying
to
get
there.
G
G
Usually
we
have
conversations
about
this
and
any
ideas
that
are
really
like
have
been
on
our
list
for
a
while
things
that
are
of
utmost
importance
because
they
there's
a
safety
issue.
I
know.
Last
year
we
had
put
in-
or
at
least
the
request
for
district
one
was
related
to
Harrison,
Road
I
think
the
amount
was
was
it
265,
000.
I
think
we
got
that
full
amount,
it
hasn't
been
executed
yet
because
we're
still
working
on
the
project
and
and
I
also
wonder
if
we
have
enough.
G
Still
I
know:
we've
gotten
multiple
tranches
of
funding
through
the
legislature
for
that
project,
so
that
was
on
my
mind.
Like
did
we
finish?
Did
we
get
enough
funding
for
the
Harrison
Road
project
for
sidewalks
and
lighting?
Although
you
know
I,
think
a
lot
of
us
think
pink
pickleball
is
a
great
sport.
G
I
think
it's
an
amenity
that
we
want
to
continue
to
have
in
our
city,
I'm
concerned
that
for
district
one,
what
was
listed
is
that
there's
some
other
things
that
we
might
want
to
consider
that
have
some
safety
issues
so
I'm
not
ready
to
approve
this,
at
least
for
my
district,
what's
listed
for
us
as
the
capital
outlay
and
was
just
wanting
to
I,
don't
have
specifics
of
ideas
that
could
replace
it
at
the
moment.
I
still
want
us
to
to
look
at
that.
G
One
is
Harrison
Road,
making
sure
that
we're
fully
funded
for
that
as
we
get
the
funding
sources
and
then
just
thinking
about
anything,
we
need
for
the
rail
yard.
Park
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anything
in
particular
I'm
just
throwing
that
out
and
then
due
to
our
changes
for
our
district,
the
redistricting
I.
Don't
know
if
this
Falls
in
my
district
yet
but
there
is
the
Santa
Fe
River
Bridge
that
is
not
functioning
and
it's
a
safety
issue
and
I.
Don't
know
if
that's
ends
up
falling
in
district.
G
G
I
want
us
to
explore
other
options
for
the
council
district
one
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
on
page
four
of
the
resolution.
There's
a
the
last,
be
it
further
resolved.
It
says
the
governing
body
reaffirms
its
support
for
the
endorsement
of
any
legislation.
That
slows
down
the
timeline
for
eviction
and
I'm,
wondering
if
we
could
just
say
prevents
eviction
because
I
wouldn't
want
to
slow
down
a
timeline
I'd
rather
just
prevent
it.
G
So
maybe
we
could
just
change
that
language,
because
I
think
there's
efforts
at
the
legislature
and
I
don't
know
what
will
be
moving
through
this
this
session,
but
I
think
it's
important
that
we're
preventing
eviction
and
making
any
connections
to
tenants
or
connections
with
tenants
and
rental
assistance
resources
and
also
providing
opportunities,
as
it
says,
for
mediation
between
renters
and
landlords.
So
I
think
that's
a
good
one.
I
just
wanted
to
tweak
that
so
I
will
yield
the
floor
for
now.
G
I
Madam,
chair
counselor,
our
deadline
is
really
pre-legislature.
What
do
you
call?
Those
committee
meetings
are
already
happening.
Our
lobbyist
is
usually
anxious
to
get
the
conversations
going
already
with
legislators.
I
Other
people
are
so
we
should
be
in
the
mix,
so
he
really
needs
the
final
direction
from
the
governing
body
to
start
those
conversations
and
then
I
think
we're
planning
on
having
our
legislative
breakfast
early
December,
and
so
we
have
that
deadline
as
well
to
get
the
booklet
made
and
make
our
priorities,
and
if
I
could
Madam
chair,
Cal
severia
I'd
like
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
pickleball
project
and
why
it's
there?
I
The
community
has
raised
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
already
for
that
project
and
it's
actually
a
full
on
pickleball
complex.
That
will
be
a
huge
Boon
to
Community
Health,
as
well
as
economic
development
in
this
community.
They
want
to
bring
in
ex
huge
tournaments
we're
going
to
have
an
indoor
and
outdoor
aspect,
so
they've
raised
a
hundred
thousand
and
there's
additional
funding
coming
in
from
the
private.
So
it's
important
for
the
city
to
match
that,
and
we
don't
have
any
funding
at
this
time
at
all.
I
To
to
match
that
private
investment,
and
so
when
we're
looking
to
leverage
private
investment,
it
does
bump
it
up.
That's
actually
also
what
happened
to
number
five
priority
on
our
one
through
five
Citywide
priorities.
Right
was
that
we
were
moving
for
soccer
Valley
to
match
that
private
investment,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
of
private
investment
that
we'd
like
to
match
to
really
bring
that
complex
to
reality.
I
It's
also
part
of
a
bigger
picture
that
we
have
for
Fort
Marcy,
which
is
really
becoming
a
really
highly
used
important
venue
in
the
city
of
Santa
Fe.
So
now
it's
where
wine
and
Chile
is
it's
also
where
zazobra
is,
of
course,
and
the
baseball
team,
and
so
we
really
want
to
make
overall
some
big
improvements
to
that
entire
Fort
Marcy
facility
to
really
support
people.
Accessibility,
safety,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
we
heard
back
from
during
zizzobra.
I
There
was
accessibility
issues,
so
we're
looking
at
a
really
upgrading
that
whole
facility
and
the
pickleball
courts
and
tournament
capabilities
would
be
one
of
them.
G
Thank
you
for
that
explanation.
I
do
want
to
make
a
difference.
The
MRC
project
has
been
a
long
time
coming,
like
it's
been
over
10
years,
that
we've
been
trying
to
find
funding
sources,
and
so
that
one
I
feel
is
different.
This
is
a
newer
cons
or
project
and
I
appreciate,
there's
been
a
community
effort
for
raising
money,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
shouldn't
be
able
to.
We
shouldn't
have
a
certain
amount
that
would
actually
be
able
to
match
that
it
just
this
amount
is
750
000
match,
and
we
have.
G
These
other
infrastructure
needs
that
I
consistently
hear
from
Michael
my
constituents
and
it's
hard
for
me
to
tell
them.
Well,
we
can't
fix
that
particular
Bridge
or
Street,
or
whatever
else
or
whatever.
We
need
in
facilities
existing,
but
we're
going
to
do
this
new,
complex
and
so
I'm
trying
to
find
a
balance,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
the
750
000
is
the
right
amount
and
so
and
it's
again
I'm
not
opposed
to
pickleball
I.
G
I
Thank
you
so
much
Madam
chair,
Council
Maria.
We
actually
can't
add
the
Santa
Fe
Bridge.
The
only
things
that
can
be
considered
are
items
that
are
already
on
the
ice
IP
for
district
priorities.
We
don't
have
a
scope
of
work
for
that
bridge
replacement.
We
haven't
said
we
weren't
going
to
repair
it.
We've
only
just
begun
to
assess
and
get
a
design
it
has
to
go
through.
It
has
to
incorporate
historic
reviews.
So
we
just
don't
have
a
cost
estimate
and
a
scope
for
that
project.
I
We
are
definitely
going
to
bring
that
forward
as
soon
as
we
have
it
for
probably
for
immediate
funding.
I
would
think
and
I
wouldn't
think
it
would
be
anywhere
near
half
a
million
dollars
to
repair
it,
but.
G
Understood
that
that
makes
sense,
I
didn't
see
the
pickleball
and
icip
list,
but
I'll
have
to
check
it
again
because
I
didn't
see
that
the
other
one
is
that
we've
been
trying
to
do
the
set
or
go
to
the
project
Road
Project
forever
and
yeah.
That.
I
D
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
director,
wheeler
for
being
here
tonight.
I
did
have
some
questions
similar
to
councilwomania
real.
Regarding
the
change
in
the
the
district
requests.
Councilmania
mentioned
district
one.
There
is
also
the
change
in
District
three.
Did
we
get
chair
content
funded
last
year.
D
I
I
could
add
a
little
bit
we're
also
having
some
challenges.
These
fundings
that
were
awarded
last
January.
We
would
have
normally
had
them
in
our
hands.
These
Tierra
contented
Trail
project
is
well
underway
and
going
into
Construction
in
the
spring.
So
romello
is
really
concerned
about
continuing
to
have
legislative
money.
That's
held
up
should
know
September,
so
she's
going
to
have
to
finish
that
project,
possibly
without
even
getting
that
appropriation,
and
so
we're
we're
trying
to
be
strategic
about
you
know.
I
D
I
There's
there
are,
there
are
a
number
of
funding
sources
that
aren't
not
Senior.
Services
has
just
released
about
three
million
dollars
that
they've
been
holding
since
2020,
and
so
we
just
got
the
grant
agreements
for
that.
Nmed
released
the
300
000
de
Valencia,
which
was
been
being
held
since
2021.,
we're
hoping
that
nmd
will
release
the
jemis
road,
which
is
very
similar
to
Valencia
chunk
line.
I
D
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
Could
we
get
I,
guess
a
overall
total
project
number,
because
you
did
reference
soccer
Valium,
we
kind
of
knew
what
was
being
brought
to
the
table
and
since
there
was
a
private
donation,
we
got
the
private.
We
got
the
amount
of
what
that
was.
You
had
mentioned
that
there's
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
being
raised,
but
what
is
the
overall
cost?
D
And
and
what
are
we
looking
at
because
when
what
you
spoke
about
an
indoor
outdoor
facility,
seven
hundred,
even
if
that's
matched
to
1.5
million
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
cover
an
indoor
facility.
So
don't
necessarily
need
it
now.
This
meeting,
but
maybe
as
we
go
through
the
process,
if
we
can
get
the
picture
of
what
the
price
tag
on
this
pickleball
complex
would
be
and
what
our
plan
as
a
city
to
if
the
750
is,
what
we're
bringing
to
the
table.
I
Cannot
the
picture
isn't
completely
solidified,
so
we
don't
have
the
whole
indoor
outdoor
entire
complex
scoped
out
yet
like
that
soccer
Valley
plan
that,
like
you
said,
Council
Villarreal,
was
approved
a
long
time
ago.
It's
additional
outdoor
courts
that
we're
focusing
on
right
now
so
expanding
the
ability
to
play
Pickleball
outside
and
they
have
raised
a
hundred
thousand
already
we're
working
on
an
agreement
to
get
that
in
the
house,
but
there's
also
another.
I
Fifty
thousand
dollar
contribution
that
we
just
became
aware
of
so
we're
not
sure
how
much
they'll
raise,
but
our
part
is
750
000
for
expansion
of
outdoor
courts
in
partnership
with
the
but
I
can
try
to
get
you
a
we're
going
to
actually
put
together
some
more
information
for
the
legislative
booklet.
So
as
soon
as
I
get
something
like
that.
I
will
share
it
with
you.
Okay,.
D
I
D
Fantastic,
thank
you
I
appreciate
that
and
then
for
the
other
two
projects:
The
District,
Two
and
District
Four-
that
were
on
last
year's
list.
District
Two
was
the
the
Pacheco
road
project
for
roughly
264
000
and
the
district
four
was
the
governor
Miles
Road
project
for
roughly
a
million.
Did
we
get
funding
for
that
last
year,
100.
I
Not
100,
you've
gotten
a
whole
bunch
of
money
a
year
before
last
those
each
got
300
last
year
or
600
that
last
year
they
got
300,
and
so
we
we
haven't,
started
those
projects
and
so
we'll
just
let
that
money
keep
continuing
to
pile
up.
And
then,
when
we
get
the
funding
boom,
we
can
like
move
right
into
design
and
build
Okay.
D
So
I
know
that
the
Pacheco
project,
just
because
it's
in
my
district,
it
was
a
lot
more
than
2.5
or
264
000..
Do
we
have
a
tally
today
in
regards
to
how
much
we've
asked
how
much
received
how
much
we
still
need
to
complete
the
project?
Well,.
I
We
spoke
to
the
legislature
about
that.
They
didn't
allow
us
to
list
funding
that
we
haven't
actually
received,
so
there
are
Appropriations,
but
we
haven't
received
them
and
we
do
have
that
tally.
It
looked
like
councilor
Villarreal
actually
sent
you
some
of
the
data
and
I
can
send
that
to
you
as
well
about
exactly
that.
I
think
you've
received
that
list
of
Appropriations
that
have
not
been
received.
Yet
it
was
an
Excel
sheet.
It
was
provided.
C
D
For
for
clarifying
that,
I
really
appreciate
it.
In
regards
to
last
year's
versus
this
year's
I
do
see
a
couple
changes
can.
Can
you
highlight
some
significant
changes
that
you
feel
that
we
need
to
be
aware
of
I'd
say,
for
example,
I'd
like
for
League
of
Municipal
cities,
the
league
that
I
don't
believe
that
was
on
last
year's
and
I
see.
D
Yep,
because
it's
just
the
format
is
different
from
last
year.
It's
so
just
trying
to
I'm
going
to
cross
reference.
If
I
have
any
questions,
I'll
check
in
with.
I
Thank
you
so
much,
and
especially
Jesse
and
Jeff
as
well.
Yes,
I
think
there
isn't
a
lot
of
changes
in
the
policy
part.
We
do
adopt
the
municipal
League's
platform
every
year,
because
they
do
a
lot
of
work
over
there.
They
have
like
a
really
rigorous
committee
process
and
an
introduction
and
review
process,
and
they
narrow
it
down
and
pretty
much.
What
they
say
is
good
for
cities
is
good
for
cities
and
good
for
us,
understandable.
D
Thank
you,
director,
wheeler,
don't
have
any
other
questions.
Thank.
A
I,
just
have
one
follow-up
to
councilman
veterans,
comment
about
eviction
and
how
we
strike
the
balance
between
there
are
times
that
people
do
need
to
be
evicted
and
it's
not
just
because
they
can't
pay
it's
because
they're
breaking
lease.
So
if,
as
we're
looking
at
that
language,
you
know
with
their
trash,
you
know
whatever
whatever
it
is,
but
there
are
there
are
times
when
eviction
would
be
appropriate
and
not
necessarily
for
failure
to
pay.
A
So
just
wanted
to
make
that
comment
since
I
know
that
you'll
be
looking
at
that
language
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
ignore
that
that
side
of
the
but
really
looking
at
assisting
people
where
it
is
more
of
a
issue
with
poverty
and
affordability
and
I,
not
sure
what
we
would
like
to
do
with
this
juncture.
So
this
does
need
to
move
forward
due
to
the
time
Factor.
Councilman
video
rally
believe
that
you
will
have
another
stab
at
this
one
at
Finance.
A
A
G
A
We
are
going
to
consideration
of
an
ordinance
amending
section,
12-10-1.10
of
the
uniform
traffic
ordinance
governing
mufflers
and
emission
control
devices
and
amending
schedule
a
of
the
uniform
traffic
ordinance
to
increase
penalties
for
Muffler
noise
violation
violations.
Matthew
Champlin,
D.C
Champlin
should
be
on
Zoom
and
we
also
have
a
Kyle
hibner
here
and
Connor.
Murphy
is
here
as
well
in
case
you
need
him.
A
Yes,
go
ahead
and
allow
to
unmute,
so
I
do
have
an
amendment
to
this
bill
that
we
can
there's
some
discussion
that
I
would
like
to
have
with
this
committee
and
getting
some
feedback
from
this
committee
about
it,
but
before
we
do
that,
are
there
any
other
questions
or
comments
for
this
bill
at
this
time?
If
you
refresh,
you
will
see
your
Amendment
sorry
go
ahead
and
refresh
it
got
uploaded
late.
B
A
The
second
to
last
attachment
titled
Muffler
enforcement
18
to
22.
G
I'm
looking
for
it,
Lucy.
J
It's
so
this
was
the
there
was
a
couple
requests
councilor,
be
real
that
you
made
that
we
took
down
and
got
some
data,
so
this
was
the
data
portion
of
it.
You
asked
for
2018
to
current
what
the
police
department
had
done,
citation
wise
I'm.
Looking
at
the
the
data
2018
and
2019,
it
looks
like
there
was
very
little
enforcement
when
it
regards
to
Mufflers.
It
really
picked
up
heavily
in
2020
and
then
it's
kind
of
been
it's
been
less
but
consistent
through
2021
and
2022..
G
Thank
you,
I
think
the
one
Nuance
I
was
trying
to
understand
is
these
are
all
citations
that
folks
went
to
co
court
for
or
do
you
know
the
breakdown
of
what
actually
occurred
with
these
citations.
J
So
I
don't
have
the
breakdown
of
what
happened
so
those
citations
in
the
presentation
in
the
last
committee
date,
we
did
have
the
October
to
October
information.
I
can
pull
that
back
up
again.
Some
of
the
citations
will
be
reclassifying
anything
that's
written
and
handed
out
to
a
driver
as
a
citation.
Now
that
might
be
a
warning
citation,
it
could
be
a
court.
A
citation
could
be
a
penalty
assessment.
That's
accepted,
there's
a
number
of
ways.
The
disposition
could
happen
as
a
result
of
that.
G
Okay
and
that's
what
I'm,
assuming
it
was
because
the
numbers
went
up
that
year,
the
57
so
I
think
that
was
a
result
of
the
concentrated
operation
and
there
was
two
parts
you
said:
I.
J
Believe
we
did
a
part
one
and
a
part
two
to
slow
and
quiet.
If
I
remember
correctly,
we
focused
the
first
part
and
I'm
speaking
anecdotally.
Here,
I,
don't
have
the
data
in
front
of
me.
I
believe
the
first
part
was
in
the
northern
part
of
the
city,
where
we
get
the
most
complaints,
the
plaza
area,
where
people
are
walking
around
pedestrians,
Etc
and
I.
Believe
we
focus.
J
The
second
part
in
the
the
north
was
still
included,
but
we
also
included
the
south
side,
because
we
had
some
complaints,
I
believe
down
by
Airport
Road,
but
I
have
to
really
look
into
it.
G
Okay,
maybe
you
could
just
let
me
know
more
about
that.
One
I'm
just
curious,
because
I
knew
I
didn't
know.
There
was
two
parts
I
just
remembered,
the
one
that
was
focused
in
the
northern
part,
since
it
was
my
district,
but
that
that
would
be
helpful
thanks
for
the
breakdown
I
need
to
look
at
the
the.
What
did
we
get
this
amendment
now?
I
haven't
looked
at
it,
so
I'll
yield
the
floor
while
I
look
at
this
thanks,
councilor.
J
Be
real
if
I,
if
I
may
real
quick
by
yourself
Mike
there
were
there
were.
There
were
two
other
things
that
the
city
attorney's
office
looked
into:
Just
a
Touch
for
you.
You
asked
about
the
excessive
fines
if
there
was
law
or
Bill
anything
that
would
prohibit
that,
so
the
City
attorney
pulled
the
New
Mexico
Constitution.
J
There's
one
provision
in
that
in
article
two:
all
it
does
is
state
that
we
can't
have
any
it's
illegal
to
have
any
excessive
fines,
bail
or
cruel
punishment,
so
to
speak,
and
the
the
I'm
gonna
pull
my
note
here,
real
quick,
apparently
the
way
that
see
attorney,
Aaron
mcsherry
is
explained.
It
is
since
the
fine
that's
being
proposed
is
comparable
to
other
cities
in
like
jurisdictions.
Excuse
me,
we
wouldn't
be
considered
excessive.
G
K
Sharecasted
counselor
would
be
real,
so
just
wanting
to
expand
on
what
DC
Champlin
said.
B
K
Actually,
isn't
a
state
statute
that
specifically
gives
municipalities
who.
K
You
that
specifically
gives
Venus
pilities,
basically
authority
to
go
up
to
90
90
days
ago
or
a
500
fine.
So
you
know
constitutionally,
which
is
what
DC
Kaplan
was
saying
in
regards
to
success
of
fines.
I
I
think
the
city
is
under
that
here
also
statutorily
based
on
that
section
that
the
city
is
in
line
with
that,
as
well
with
the
proposal.
K
Correct
it,
it
basically
says
that
cities
can
enforce
the
ordinances
by
by
imprisonment
up
to
90
days
or
a
500
fine,
which
is
which
is
typically
what
we
have
in
you
know
our
general,
under
a
criminal
code
up
to
90
days
up
to
a
500,
fine,
okay,.
G
B
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you.
Dc
Champlin
for
the
updated
stats,
really
appreciate
that
one
question
and
I
don't
know
if
you'll
be
able
to
provide
further
clarification,
but
in
2020
there's
57
citations,
and
then
it
went
down
to
32
in
2021
and
then
up
by
four
to
end
to
36
and
20
this
year.
To
date,
I
know
that
the
noise
hasn't
decreased.
It's
probably
if
I'm
going
off
the
feedback
from
constituents,
it's
only
increased
and
so
just
wondering
why
we
we're
seeing
a
decrease
in
citations.
D
Is
it
becoming
more
challenging
for
you
and
your
team
to
issue
the
citations?
Just
if
you
have
any
further
information
to
help
me
understand?
Why
there's
why
we
went
from
57
to
32
to
currently
36
for
this
calendar
year.
J
Sure
Madam,
chair
and
counselor
Garcia,
so
it's
a
I,
don't
have
the
exact
question
for
it:
I'm
sorry
the
exact
answer
for
it,
but
there
was
that
heavier
focus
on
it
in
2020
and
I'm
fairly,
certain
that
was
when
slow
and
quiet
was,
and
there
was
a
real
heavy
focus
on
that,
particularly
moving
into
like
2021
2022.
We
did
have
critical
Staffing
levels
through
that
time
and
again
going
back
to
our
last
conversation.
In
the
last
time
we
met
talking
about
priorities.
J
So
when
we
heavily
focus
on
something
because
it
becomes
a
a
Hot
Topic
or
a
a
large
complaint
coming
from
your
constituents,
then
it
we
see
an
increase
in
the
enforcement.
It's
just
a
natural.
You
know
cause
and
effect
so
to
speak,
but
there's
no
real
reason
why
it
dips
or
any
other
reason
other
than
the
fact
that
it
may
have
been
focused
on
heavier
in
2020
versus
2021
and
2022..
J
D
Sure
sure
it
definitely
does
and
and
the
the
data
in
this
slide
is
that
citations
for
Mufflers
or
citations
regarding,
can
you
clarify
what
the
number
is
representing?
It's.
D
Okay,
because
I
took
a
look
at
the
data
provided
at
least
through
the
first
round
of
slow
and
quiet
I,
don't
know
if
we
did
a
round
two
at
phase
two,
but
there
was
nine
citations
issued
in
2020,
so
that
would
bump
it
down
off
of
57
to
to
what
48
that
were
issued
outside
of
slow
and
quiet,
and
so
that's
still
higher
than
last
year
and
this
year
to
date,
so
I
I
think
yeah
I
understand
you
said
that,
probably
because
the
emphasis
is
there,
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
I'm,
not
trying
to
say
the
emphasis
is
down
with
your
team
I'm,
just
trying
having
a
real
hard
time,
understanding
why
we
issued
so
many
and
then
we're
just
decreasing
and
I
again,
as
we
mentioned
last
time,
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
providing
you
with
sufficient
tools
to
help
us
alleviate
this
Challenge,
and
if
there
was
something
you
were
doing
different
back,
then
that
might
not
be
the
way
practice
has
been
conducted
now.
D
J
Sure
and
I
mean
for
2020.
There
was
a
heavy
emphasis
on
it
and
just
because
there
was
an
operation,
the
operation
and
I'm,
glad
that
you
have
the
the
statistics
there
because
I
don't
know
them
offhand.
So
if
nine
were
done
in
slow
and
quiet,
it
doesn't
mean
that
the
emphasis
wasn't
placed
within
the
department
as
a
whole.
It
just
means
that
for
slow
and
quiet
it
may
have
been
during
that
portion.
It
wasn't
only
Muffler
citations.
J
If
you
all
remember
in
2020,
a
big
portion
of
what
was
happening
was
drag
racing
and
speeding
and
other
Reckless
type
driving.
So
there
was
a
big
emphasis
on
a
lot
of
other
driving
or
dangerous
driving
behavior,
not
just
Mufflers,
but
there
was
an
emphasis
on
mufflers
as
well,
so
that
emphasis
carries
throughout
our
department
and
generally,
when
we're
doing
an
operation.
I'll
give
you
an
example:
operation,
centralized
Aid
that
the
bike
Team
just
started
on
the
18th.
J
So
yesterday
that's
focused
on
the
cereals,
Corridor
Zafarano,
Harrison
Road
any
of
the
problem
areas
that
we
have
around
there
and
and
really
helping
out
just
because
they're
doing
the
operation
there.
It
doesn't
mean
the
emphasis
doesn't
bleed
over
to
the
rest
of
the
department
and
they
help
out
as
well.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
I'm,
not
sure
if
100
answers
it,
but
there
has
been
emphasis
through
2021
and
2022,
although
it
may
not
have
been
at
the
same
citation
level
as
2020.
D
Right
no
I,
thank
you
it
does.
It
does
help
to
provide
some
context
to
it.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
DC
Champlin.
My
next
question
revolves
around
problematic
areas
and
I.
Think
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
that
we
we
see
a
challenge
downtown
the
immediate
downtown,
Santa
Fe
and
they're
they're,
a
couple
of
more
of
our
main
thoroughfares
that
are
become
more
popular
for
one
reason
or
another
and
and
I
guess.
My
question
is:
are:
is
there
a
plan
in
place
to
potentially
begin
to
Target
some
of
these
problematic
areas?
D
For
example,
you
know
I
just
received
a
call
today
from
a
constituent
who
their
downtown
right
off
down
gas
bar
and
Water
Street
area,
and
they
they
know
when
the
problem
is
it's
it's
during.
You
know
the
late
hours
10
P.M
to
roughly
3
A.M
during
as
I
mentioned
to
the
constituent,
that's
a
hub
where
a
lot
of
our
nightlife
is-
and
we
see
probably
a
lot
of
increased
traffic
and
okay
I
guess.
D
My
question
is:
are
we
looking
at
potentially
targeting
some
of
these
areas
that
we
know
that
have
been
problematic,
whether
it's
the
galasteo
San
Francisco,
Street
area,
where
folks
tend
to
take
their
cruises
and
whether
it
be
rev
their
engines
or
just
have
a
loud
vehicle
by
nature?
Is
there
a
way
where
we
can
begin
to
work
with
community
members
to
say
look,
this
is
we've
got
a
law
in
place
and
begin
to
educate
the
community,
and
let
folks
know
this
isn't
going
to
be
tolerated
down
here.
J
I
mean
when
it
comes
to
the
specifically
you're
talking
about
right
now,
like
the
dondus
water
area,
I
haven't
heard
anything
and
I
just
actually
mentioned
this
to
the
chief.
Not
too
long
ago,
I
haven't
heard
anything
from
the
plaza
area
in
in
recent
months
regarding
a
lot
of
traffic
complaints,
which
is
good
if
there's
a
particular
constituent.
J
That
knows
this
is
happening
at
this
time
and
it's
very
beneficial
to
share
that
information
with
us
would
be
great,
because
then
we
can
put
the
area
officers
in
there
if
it's
a
bigger
problem
and
we
start
getting
several
complaints
on
a
problem
and
it's
kind
of
an
escalating
system
with
us
and
all
police
departments
Nationwide.
You
know
the
pop.
The
problem
starts
out
small
and
we
we
assess
it
and
see
what
we
need
to
do
with
that
and
intelligence
drives
tactics,
so
to
speak.
So
where?
J
How
much
do
we
need
to
deploy
to
solve
the
problem?
The
bigger
the
problem
gets,
if
you
remember
I,
think
and
I
think
it
was
2020
or
end
of
2019
when
we
did
downtown
Focus
phase
one
and
phase
two.
During
that
time
we
had.
It
was
a
it
was
a
much
bigger
problem
and
this
wasn't
just
driving.
J
This
was
just
the
quality
of
life
in
the
downtown
area
in
general,
and
we
had
two
meetings
both
that
I
spoke
at
with
the
chief
at
that
time:
Chief
Padilla
and
the
mayor
and
other
City
Executives
and
counselors
that
were
there
and
we're
talking
a
room
of
100
to
150
people.
So
if
we
can
it's
the
the
more
the
bigger
the
problem,
it
gets
the
more
people
it
affects.
We
start
reaching
out
to
bigger
portions
to
get
that
data
in
and
to
see.
What's
going
on
and
talk
to
people
regarding.
J
Are
we
doing
anything
right
now,
specifically
for
that
area?
I,
don't
think
we
have
anything
planned
for
it.
I'll
give
you
the
the
one
that
has
come
up.
The
most
most
recently
has
been
the
cereals,
Corridor
Airport,
Road
zafrano.
The
turn
coming
out
of
sprouts
has
been
brought
up
by
several
people,
just
because
they're
making
the
wrong
turns
there
and
it's
being
dangerous.
J
The
bike
Team
always
moves
from
the
downtown
area
to
other
parts
of
the
city,
they're
kind
of
our
Swiss
army
knife
during
the
winter
months,
because
they
have
a
different
function
during
those
months
because
it's
cold
so
we're
able
to
move
them
around
the
city
into
problem
areas
and
when
they're
doing
these
these
operations,
we
can
reach
out
to
them
in
real
time
while
they're
working
and
say
hey.
This
is
a
problem.
This
just
popped
up
yesterday.
Can
you
guys
go
check
this
out?
You
know,
maybe
it's
a
an
encampment
where
it
shouldn't
be.
J
Maybe
it's
a
traffic
issue
whatever
that
is,
we
can
reach
out
to
them
and
they
can
help
us
out
so
specifically
for
the
Doncaster
water
area.
Right
now.
No,
but
if
we
know
when
that's
happening,
you
can
reach
out
to
a
constituent
and
have
them
email
me.
We
can
definitely
or
give
me
a
call.
We
can
talk
about
it
and
see
what's
going
on.
D
Sure
definitely
I
appreciate
that
offer
and
and
I'll
make
that
connection
soon,
since
we're
still
debating
the
overall
topic
of
the
the
proposed
legislation,
I
I
still
have
concerns
and
trouble
regarding
enforcement
and
I'm
wondering
if
we're
Maybe
chomping
at
this
from
the
wrong
angle.
D
Where
we
see
or
not,
we
see
we
hear
and
we
notice
a
lot
of
the
obstruction
in
the
late
night
hours
when
the
city
tends
to
quiet
down,
not
to
say
it
doesn't
happen
during
the
day,
but
that's
when
it
becomes
obviously
much
more
noticeable
and
and
I'm
wondering
if
another
route
for
us
to
address
this
challenge
would
be
to
look
at
enforcing
quiet
times
for
the
city
and
where
it
allows
for
constituents
to
know
that
there
is
this
period
of
time
where
we
are
gonna
expect
somebody
with
a
classic
vehicle
they're
not
going
to
be
cruising
down.
D
D
For
for
what
I
would
say
is
a
smaller
group
of
folks
that
that
that
mentality
of
One
Bad
Apple
spoils
the
bunch
and
I
think
we
we
should
be
looking
at
it
from
maybe
a
different
angle,
because
again
the
enforcement,
whether
it's
through
the
driver
or
through
the
installers,
it
can
be
somewhat
challenging
and
very
problematic
and
and
and
and
I
think
DC.
Champlin.
D
Last
time
we
spoke
you
had
mentioned,
it
was
challenging
how
I
mean,
for
example,
my
my
daughter
and
I
have
different
senses
of
hearing
when,
when
I
jump
in
the
car
I
have
it
at
a
14
always-
and
she
knows
I
know
when
she
gets
in
the
car
I,
take
it
down
to
a
seven,
because
she
can't
handle
the
music
that
loud
and
a
seven
to
me
is
like
a
mouse
peeping,
but
to
her
it's
like
a
huge
Rock
concert
and
we've
we've
got
to
understand
that
unless
there
are
certified
Tools
in
place
to
allow
DC
Champlin
and
his
team
to
to
utilize
data
to
then
convict
people
or
or
charge
people
with
an
offense.
D
That's
that's
the
route
we
need
to
look
at,
but
I
think
D.C
champion.
Last
time
we
spoke,
there
was
potentially
some
resistance.
For
example,
like
decibel
readers
do
and
I
guess.
My
question
is
you
mentioned
last
time:
it
was
around
training
and
updating
of
materials.
Etc
and
I
completely
understand
that
but
I
but
I
look
at
it
from
a
different
perspective
and
I'm.
Putting
my
my
challenge
of
like
we're,
seeing
with
our
finances.
D
Currently
you
you
have
a
whole
crew
of
folks
that
we're
used
to
doing
our
finances
a
different
way
and
now
that
we're
incorporating
munis
it
takes
a
whole
new
training
and
incorporation
and
way
we
approach
conducting
business,
and
so
my
question,
DC
Champlin,
is
how
much
pushback
would
we
get
from
you
and
your
team.
If
that
is
a
route
we
decided
to
take
to
to
put
that
decibel
reader
tool
into
your
toolkit
and
begin
to
provide
you
and
your
team
with
sufficient
resources
for
training,
for
the
updating
that
will
be
needed.
D
Etc
because
again,
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
we're.
Given
you
every
capable
tool
to
to
move
forward
with
this
challenge.
J
Sure
no
pressure
on
that
question.
How
would
I
support
that
so
with
the
decibel
readers,
the
the
it's,
not
that
it's
not
supporting
it
or
not,
supporting
it?
The
way
that
I
do
everything
that
that
comes
through
my
wheelhouse,
so
to
speak,
just
like
this
ordinance
is
reaching
out
to
other
departments
reaching
out
outside
of
the
state
reaching
out
to
see
what
are
other
people
doing?
Is
it
working?
Is
it
not
working?
J
Is
there
a
technology
that
we
could
utilize
that
we're
not
utilizing,
which
is
what
sparked
the
conversation
weeks
ago
regarding
the
noise
cameras
that
could
be
mounted
and
be
stationary,
we're
still
kind
of
in
the
process
of
that,
but
it's
a
very,
very,
very
infant
conversation,
so
to
speak
so
with
the
decimal
readers.
I
don't
have
much
information
on
it
other
than
from
personal
experience.
Again
anecdotally,
Mufflers
are
harder
to
enforce
and
I.
J
Don't
know
if
I
want
to
put
the
officer
if
I
would
support
putting
the
officers
into
a
box
to
the
aspect
of
if
they're
in
traffic,
and
they
hear
a
muffler
that
they
can
reasonably
testify
to
based
on
their
training,
experience
and
Kyle
can
come
in
and
work
his
articulation
into
the
court
and
work
it
that
way.
I
don't
know
if
I
want
to
would
support
next
to
the
boxing
them
in
to
having
a
specific
reader.
J
Now,
on
the
back
end
of
that,
when
we
talk
about
the
Fix-It
ticket
and
I
did
look
a
little
bit
into
that
with
California.
What
they're
doing
is
they
issue
the
ticket
based
on
probable
cause
for
the
violation
of
the
crime
which
being
a
loud
Muffler?
The
individual
has
an
opportunity
to
go
and
fix
it.
They
have
to
bring
that
vehicle
back
to
an
officer.
J
It's
dismissed
so
I
can
see
a
decimal
reader
coming
into
play
at
the
point
of
where
there
is
a
necessary
time
to
really
evaluate
it
by
a
decibel,
we'll
say
if
it's
loud
or
not,
but
at
the
time
when
most
of
these
officers
are
going
to
be
encountering
this
they're
not
going
to
be
standing
unless
they're
working
a
special
operation
or
something
we
specifically
have
them
standing
out
at
the
plaza
we'll
say
it's
not
going
to
happen.
J
Updating
our
our
way
of
it,
which
I'm
not
against
I'd
like
to
move
forward
with
anything
that
is
I
want
to
be
clear
with
that.
I
might
just
don't
know.
If
it's
practical
is
the
is
the
best
part.
D
I
I
really
appreciate
that
clarification,
but
that
no
other
questions
Madam,
chair,
DC
Champlin,
just
want
to.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
continued
time
and
effort.
I
know
you're
doing
your
own
research
and
looking
into
it,
and
if
there
is
anything
you
come
across
during
your
you're
looking
into
the
matter,
please
share
that
with
us.
I
think
that's
where
it
helps
us
as
we
go
through
this
process
together.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Dc
champion.
D
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
once
again
thank
you
for
being
here,
DC
chaplain
and
answering
the
questions
and
some
of
our
concerns.
I
am
I'm
still
kind
of
toying
or
having
trouble
with
the
issue
of
enforceability,
and
you
know
going
back
to
questions
from
councilor
Michael
Garcia
just
previously
in
regards
to
how
do
we
qualify
that
the
muffler
is
too
loud?
F
Obviously,
we
can
hear
it
from
miles
away,
but
you
know
when
you
just
just
take:
for
example,
when
you
give
somebody
a
speeding
ticket
well,
the
first
thing
that
you're
going
to
do
is
say
while
I
clocked
you
on
the
radar
or
I
was
I,
guess,
there's
other
methods,
whereas
you
would
be
pacing
out
a
car
or
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
you
would
then
go
to
if
you
had
to
go
to
court
and
with
with
the
with
the
person
to
defend
your
position
as
to
why
they
were
speeding
in
how
they
were
speeding
and
how
far
how
fast
they
were
speeding
and
what
are
the,
what
are
going
to
be
the
the
fines
and
and,
and
you
know,
proved
to
under
court
of
law.
F
So
now
we're
going
back
to
the
noise
issue
and
when
you
stop
someone
with
the
again
how
how
would
that
be
determined
when
an
officer
stops,
somebody
that
is
has
a
vehicle
that
is
louder
than
most
and
says.
Okay,
you
are
being
disruptive
to
the
community.
Your
muffler
is
too
loud,
I'm
an
issue
of
citation,
and
so
does
that
go
off
of
again
what
the
officer
experienced
and
if
we
don't
have
ways
to
and
to
read
this
I
guess
that's
kind
of
some
of
the
area
that
I'm
having
issues
with
and
I'll.
J
Sure
and
I
don't
have
the
I,
don't
think
100
of
the
answer
you're
gonna
be
looking
for,
but
let
me
answer
to
the
extent
that
I
can
and
I
think
Kyle
can
actually,
since
he's
there,
maybe
weighing
a
little
bit
on
the
course
perspective
because
he's
ultimately
the
one
who
has
to
prosecute
it,
but
for
the
officer's
perspective,
the
way
that
the
law
reads
and
it
says
unusually
excessive
or
loud.
J
It's
the
unusual
part
that,
when
an
officer
who
is
trained
and
has
experience
they
go
through
a
field
training
program,
they
learn
how
to
run.
We
call
it
running
traffic
arbitrarily,
but
they
learn
how
to
look
out
for
traffic
violations.
They
learn
how
to
do
all
these
things
no
different
than
if
an
officer
was
to
articulate
if
a
vehicle
is
driving
carelessly
or
something
specific
to
that
recklessly
or
speeding
is,
like
you
said,
there's
a
radar
for
it.
J
If
we
want
to
quantify
that
with
a
decimal
reader,
it's
it's
again,
it's
the
would
it
be
feasible,
and
could
we
get
that
recording
so
to
speak
while
we're
driving
in
traffic
and
it's
not
as
feasible,
so
we
rely
heavily
on
the
officers
articulation
and
then
Kyle's
presentation
to
the
court
as
to
how
how
that
how
that
unfolds
within
the
court
to
to
determine
it,
Beyond,
A,
Reasonable,
Doubt,
so
to
speak,
the
officers
only
threshold
illegally
is
probable
cause
they
all
they
have
to
have.
J
Is
probable
cause
to
determine
that
the
crime
was
more
than
likely
committed?
It
was
probable
based
on
certain
facts,
evidence
or
observations,
and
if
that's
there,
they
can
issue
the
citation
and
once
that
citation
is
issued,
then
it's
the
officer's
job
to
go
into
court
and
articulate
it.
It's
Kyle
his
job
to
prosecute
that
and
work
with
the
officer
to
to
do
that
case
within
court
and
Kyle
I
know
since
he's
there
he
may
be
able
to
speak
to
he's,
had
successful
cases,
I
believe.
J
A
B
K
So
you
know
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
fair
amount
of
subjectivity,
I
suppose
in
in
this
ordinance,
but
with
just
a
couple
points
on
that.
You
know
in
in
many
and
and
DC
can't
plan
alluded
to
this,
but
there's
many
places
in
the
law
where
there's
a
fair
amount
of
subjectivity.
K
K
So
you
know
just
just
to
expand
on
what
DC
Kaplan
said
it
is.
It
is
going
to
come
down
a
lot
to
the
officers,
his
training,
his
experience,
I
I,
think
he
mentioned
last
time,
just
kind
of
anecdotal
story
that
I
had
about
a
successful
prosecution
in
which
it
was
one
of
the
traffic
officers
who
is
in
basically
traffic
for
eight
hours
a
day
or
however
long
his
shift
is
he's
hearing
thousands
of
cars.
If
not
more
a
day.
K
You
know
how
is
he
like?
How
can
he
articulate
why
this
car
is
excessive
or
unusual
noise
so
that
that's
a
factor
in
it?
K
K
For
example,
if
the
officer
goes
up
and
says
hey,
you
know,
your
car
is
pretty
loud:
oh
yeah
I,
you
know
I
I
put
in
put
in
a
glass
pack,
for
example.
That's
part
of
the
amendment
you
know
I
think
at
that
point.
Your
case
is
building
a
lot.
You
know
it
steps
right.
So
it's
it's
getting
up
to
that
Reasonable
Doubt
standard.
K
You
know
it
is
subjective,
but
it
still
has
to
be
proved.
Beyond,
Reasonable,
Doubt
and.
K
C
K
F
Thank
you
for
the
answers,
and
and
again
you
know,
I'm
trying
to
walk
myself
through
the
steps
of
how
going
back
to
what
is
our
our
reasoning
for
for
bringing
this
forward
and
I
know
that
there
are
issues
with
with
noise,
Street
noise,
specifically
in
regards
to
vehicles
and
trying
to
identify
that
just
mufflers
and
noisy
Mufflers
are
the
main
cause
and
the
root
cause
and
the
reason
for
this,
and
so
if
we
go
into
an
officer's
ability
to
to
identify
that
a
vehicle
is
loud
and
then
proceed
on
with
the
traffic
stop
or
whatever
that
may
be
issuing
a
citation.
F
Now
it
goes
to
court
we've
gone
through
this
whole
process.
They
have
these
excessive
fines
that
are
pretty
expensive.
F
You
know,
I
know
some
of
the
ideas
from
some
of
my
colleagues
have
been
to
maybe
fix
it
or
ticket,
and
so
now
they
have
an
opportunity
to
go
back
and
fix
their
vehicle,
but
going
back
to
enforceability.
Without
that
person
being
able
to
go
to
to
court,
they
will
be
able
to
go
to
court
or
take
the
fine,
I
guess
similar
to
a
speeding
ticket.
F
I'm,
assuming
I
didn't
see
anywhere
in
here,
where
they
couldn't
just
take
the
the
fine
but
I'm,
still
struggling
with
that
that
that
final
issue
of
of
enforceability
and
again
going
back
to
some
of
our
previous
legislation
and
being
counterproductive
in
regards
to
finding
people
that
don't
show
up
to
court,
and
things
like
that,
you
can
just
draw
out
so
I'll,
leave
that
right
there.
F
As
far
as
my
comments,
the
other,
the
other
thing
like
a
question
I
would
have,
is
so
I'll
start
off
with
the
comment
in
regards
to
we
have
a
huge
culture
of
people,
a
huge
car
culture
in
in
Northern,
New,
Mexico
and
I.
Think
you
know
in
here
we
mentioned
glass
packs,
and
so
there
may
be
vehicles
that
have
glass
packs
already
installed
in
their
in
their
cars.
If
they
were
to
stop
to
have
be
cruising
their
car
down
on
a
Friday
night
and
obviously
be
stopped
by
an
officer.
F
You
know
what
would
be
again
they'd
be
subject
to
a
fine.
They
would
be
then
go
to
court
and
then
possibly
if,
if
allowed
to
fix
it
okay,
so
now
you
got
to
put
a
muffler
in
there.
Well,
that
might
not
go
along
with
the
vehicle,
and
so
you
know
maybe
there's
something
in
there
that
we
need
to
really
look
at
in
terms
of
some
of
these
older
vintage
vehicles
that
have
modified
exhaust
systems.
F
You
know
I
I
want
to
take
and
just
give
you
an
example.
The
other
day,
a
old
model,
Ford
T-Bucket,
was
at
the
shop
at
my
shop
and
it
has
Street
pipes
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
modify
that
vehicle,
and
so
the
person
who
owns
that
vehicle
may
not
be
able
to
drive
it
or
be
subjective
to
this
fine,
and
it
doesn't
really
make
sense
to
me
so
again.
F
They
may
not
be
creating
a
noise
at
the
time
during
the
day,
but
let's
say
they're
at
night
and
they're,
choosing
that
car
and
they're
blasting
out
everybody's
ears.
F
You
know
I
think
it's
pointing
back
to
maybe
looking
at
noise
reduction
through
certain
quiet
times
and
I
think
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
headed
with
this
versus,
because
again
it
goes
back
to
the
times
that
these
are
happening
and
not
only
that,
but
when
they
are
happening
a
lot
of
times
it's
street
racing
and
other
issues
that
are
that
are
being
that
are
happening,
and
so
I
would
just
like
to
maybe
hear
your
comments
based
on
on
that,
and
you
know
in
regards
to
the
many
people
who
already
have
cars
that
have
devices
that
aren't
necessarily
Street
piped
or
you
know,
there's
so
many
different
ways
to
create
noise
in
a
vehicle
and
I.
F
J
J
So
with
that
being
said,
the
the
vehicles
that
have
they're,
like
you
said
the
older
model,
I,
have
a
I
think
I
mentioned
this
last
time.
I
have
a
captain.
Who
is
one
of
my
staff
who
oversees
a
patrol
section.
He
is
a
Car
Guru.
That
is
what
his
entire
retirement
has
planned
out
to
be
I,
hear
about
every
day
in
two
years,
he'll
be
doing
nothing
but
building
cars
and
that's
what
he
does.
J
They're
all
old
cars
are
beautiful
cars
and
he
we
discussed
this
with
the
mufflers
and
how
that
would
affect
him
cruising
his
car
through
Santa
Fe,
and
you
know,
and
he
is
he's
the
people
you're
talking
about
that's
what
I'm
is
what
I'm
getting
at
and
I
don't
know
if
there
is
a
a
perfect
fix
for
this
I.
Think
that's
why
we're
here
this?
You
know
this
counselor
lindell's
main
push
for
us
I
think
is
to
increase
the
fine.
So
right
now
it's
at
25
to
make
it
a
reasonable
thing.
J
That's
a
deterrence!
Will
that
work,
100
I,
don't
I
think
that's
to
be
said.
Well,
we
don't
know
we
don't
have
any.
You
know
equivalent
data
data,
excuse
me
to
say
otherwise
or
to
say
it'll
work
or
it
won't
work,
but
the
people
that
already
have
their
cars,
the
quiet
time,
I,
don't
know
I'm
thinking
about
when
you
you
bring
up
quiet
time
and
counselor
Garcia
is
bringing
a
quiet
time.
J
I
started
thinking
about
enforceability
in
that
aspect
and
how
the
police
department
would
okay,
let's
say
it's
10
o'clock
at
night
and
it's
10
o'clock
till
six
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
we're
not
going
to
allow
allowed
Vehicles
during
that
that
moment
of
time.
So
those
people
that
already
have
the
vehicles.
J
They
know
the
state
I
guess
for
lack
of
a
better
chunks
to
stay
away
from
if
their
vehicle
meets
this
threshold
of
loudness
during
these
times
of
the
day,
and
then
they
wouldn't
be
subject
to
these
funds
and
I'm
not
I'm,
not
a
whole
against
that
or
necessarily
afford
or
against
it.
It's
a
it's
a
there's.
J
This
dichotomy
between
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
enforcing
and
improving
the
quality
of
life
for
what
the
citizens
of
the
especially
the
Downtown
Plaza
Boombox
area
and
for
the
Cerritos
Corridor
area
and
Airport
Road
that
they're
asking
for,
but
we
want
to
do
in
a
manner
that
is
Equitable
for
everybody
and
I.
J
Think
that's
why
we're
here
having
this
discussion
tonight
so
the
quiet
time,
maybe
an
idea
I'm
not
opposed
to
it,
I'm,
not
for
it
just
yet
either
I'd
like
to
see
more
about
it,
I'm
curious
to
see
if
other
people
have
or
other
cities
excuse
me
have
taken
any
kind
of
approach
like
that.
J
If
it's
been
beneficial,
if
it's
worked
or
if
it's
been
a
hard
pushback
with
limiting
citizens
as
a
whole,
if
the
city
as
a
whole
and
we're
saying
at
10
o'clock,
you
know
you,
you
can't
be
loud
past
this
point
with
your
with
your
vehicle
past
this
point
or
coming
to
the
city
at
this
point,
how
that
would
be
taken
by
socially
as
a
whole
I
guess
we
could
say,
and
then
the
police
department
being
charged
to
enforce
that.
F
Thank
you
very
much,
DC
Chaplin
and
I
guess
the
last
question
I
would
have
in
regards
to
it
kind
of
still
revolves
around
enforceability,
but
at
the
same
time,
so
going
back
to
people
who
modify
their
vehicles.
Yes,
a
lot
many
times
they
will
take
him
to
an
automotive
shop
and
I.
Think
the
last
time
you
were
here
we,
you
know
you
did
mention.
F
There
are
plenty
of
shops
in
Santa
Fe
that
do
some
pretty
cool
things
with
with
vehicles
and
with
exhaust
systems
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and-
and
so
you
know
again,
I
I
think
if
their
intention
is
to
create
an
environment
where
everybody
is
racing
down
the
road,
creating
a
lot
of
noise,
I,
don't
I,
don't
necessarily
feel
that
is
necessary.
F
Their
intentions,
I,
think
their
intentions
are
to
create
a
cool
vehicle,
and
you
know
when
somebody
turns
it
on
it
has
that
Rumble
and
it
sounds
and
and
so
you
know
going
back
to
possibly
giving
fines
to
those
who
install
mufflers
and
again
back
to
enforceability.
F
You
know,
obviously
if
they
can
produce
a
ticket.
Where
was
this
Muffler
installed?
Who
knows
where
it
was
so?
Maybe
the
muffler
was
ordered
off
of
Amazon
or
Ebay.
They
took
it
to
somebody
and
they
charged
them
cash
to
put
it
in
there
and
so
again,
how
do
we
enforce
that?
F
And
so
you
know
I
I.
Those
are
just
some
of
the
issues
that
I
have
with
this
obviously
understanding
and
coming
from
an
automotive
background,
knowing
that
we
do
have
a
problem
with
with
noise
at
certain
times
and
how
that's
tied
into
street
racing
and
things
that
are
very
dangerous
to
our
community
other
than
than
just
the
noise
part
of
it
and
I.
Don't
necessarily
know
that
that
just
targeting
loud,
noisy
Mufflers
is
the
complete
solution.
F
I
think,
there's
more
to
it
and
I
think
the
conversation
has
to
revolve
more
around
when
these
things
are.
These
things
are
happening
and
how
it
affects
the
overall,
not
only
quality
of
life,
but
safety
of
our
community
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
counselor,
Travis,.
E
Thank
you,
I
really
just
have
a
comment.
I
feel
like
there's
been
a
lot
of
incredible
input
around
this
and
I.
Think
what
like
is
clear
with
what
everyone
says
is
that
we
might
find
ourselves
having
this
discussion
later
on.
No,
despite
what
decision
is
made
either
way
for
a
solution,
because
it's
really
going
to
be
dependent
on
data
kind
of
like
the
data
you
shared
and
just
the
positive
impact,
it's
either
having
or
not.
E
Having
I
think
the
solution
is
action
and
then
us
reassessing
whether
that
action
is
effective
and
really
addressing
the
issue
and
what
other
impacts
it's
really
having,
and
we
won't
be
able
to
actually
see
that
with
some
with
how
actually
moving
forward
with
some
type
of
action
and
I
know
counselor
cast
it's
going
to
be
introducing
an
amendment
that
I
am
in
support
of
so
but
that's
very
clear.
E
I
feel
like
we
all
have
very
a
lot
of
ideas
around
what
can
be
done,
but
we
don't
have
a
great
idea
yet
of
what
how
it
will
positively
impact
the
actual
issue
and
what
I'm
thinking
is
like
that's
going
to
be
the
reality
of
this
and
trying
to
address
this
problem.
E
Is
that
once
we
enforce
something
we
might
find
ourselves
having
this
discussion
again
and
maybe
considering
amendment
to
make
it
better,
it
may
be
needs
to
be
like
an
evolving
solution
in
addressing
a
complicated
issue
that
is
difficult
to
enforce
and
does
take
a
matter
of.
You
know
like
it's
based
on
probable.
You
know
whether
we
can't
really
prove
it
in
the
moment
with
which
I
think
a
lot
of
you
and
you
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong.
A
lot
of
your
officers
are
faced
to
make
those
decisions
every
day,
correct.
E
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
subjectivity
involved
in
a
lot
of
decisions,
but
it's
just
the
fact
that
we
need
to
move
forward
with
some
type
of
action.
And
if
we
need
to
reassess
as
leadership
then
we
do
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
emphasize
that.
Thank.
A
You
thank
you
so
much
counselor,
okay,
so
Madam.
G
Chair,
oh
yes,
just
one
other
question
about
that.
We
had
talked
about
in
the
last
meeting
is
if
we,
if
there
were
the
folks
that
were
supporting
this,
if
the
stakeholder
that
we
didn't
hear
from
or
that
we
were
hoping
to,
there
would
be
Outreach
as
the
auto
business,
and
we
also
said
auto
dealerships.
But
do
you
know
if
there
has
been
any
Outreach
to
that
stakeholder
group,
because
this
will
directly
impact
them
not.
A
I
can
speak
to
that
briefly.
We
we
did
get
some
information
from
some
Auto
groups.
I
am
at
the
moment
waiting
for
I
was
I
reached
out
to
the
chamber
to
see
if
they
have
kind
of
some
contacts
that
I
could
reach
out
to
I
have
not
yet
received
that
suggestion,
and
then
that
was
something
that
I
had
asked
Connor
on.
So
I
am
I'll.
A
Get
to
that
as
I
talk
about
the
amendment
because
yeah
I'll
I'll
get
there,
but
that
is
something
I've
been
trying
to
get
some
time
to
do.
Thank.
G
You
well
you
weren't
a
sponsor,
so
I
was
wondering
if
the
sponsors
did
that
and
then
the
other
thing
is
like
Solutions
yeah,
they
could
come
in
different
forms.
I
guess
what
I
struggle
with
is
the
biggest
issues
I
see
when
I'm
driving
around
town
and
also
from
constituents?
Obviously,
noise
is
one
of
them,
but
street
racing
and
running
red
lights.
Those
seem
to
be
easier
to
actually
enforce
because
you
have
some
a
mechanism
to
show.
Well,
you
have
the
the
speed
cameras.
G
Sorry,
not
speed
cameras,
no
I'm
thinking
of
the
well
the
radar.
Thank
you
and
then
also
just
the
fact
that
folks
are
running
red
lights.
That
happened
so
much.
That
is
an
actual
physical
safety
issue
that
could
involve
all
these
other
people.
So
that's
what's
hard
for
me
is
like
these
issues
they're
connected,
but
but
then,
when
I
hear
from
my
colleague,
councilor
Garcia
Lee
Garcia
about
these
different
ways
of
modifying
Vehicles.
Some
are
manufactured
already
in
the
vehicle.
G
Some
are
modifications
for
older
models
and
I'm,
like
that's
going
to
be
a
hard
call
for
our
police
officers
and
then
I
don't
want
it
ever
to
lead
to
anything,
not
that
our
I
think
our
officers
do
this,
but
there's
I
don't
want
any
room
for
any
kind
of
racial
profiling
that
you
know
even
the
fact
that
the
folks
that
do
this
there's,
probably
a
demographic
and
they're,
primarily
younger
that
we've
seen
at
least
I,
see
around
town
yeah
I,
guess
those
are
the
things
that
I'm
like.
G
Then,
how
are
we
targeting
these,
this
specific
demographic
and
then
we're
not
thinking
about
all
the
other
noise
factors
that
are
nuisances
for
us
in
the
city
that
aren't
being
targeted?
So
I
talked
about
this
last
time.
It's
just
it's!
It's
really
hard
for
me
to
try
to
figure
this
out,
and
we
know
that
this
has
been.
You
know
on
everyone's
mind
now,
especially
in
the
summer
when
everybody's
windows
were
open-
and
it
was
just-
it
was
painful.
G
So,
okay,
it's
really
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
if
we'd
covered
our
bases
with
other
stakeholders,
but
it
sounds
like
not
yet.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman
yeah
I.
It's
on
my
to-do
list,
honestly
getting
just
trying
to
figure
out
this
amendment
proposal
has
taken
up
a
lot
of
time
and
energy
and
just
really
I
feel,
like
every
turn.
I
take
uncovers
the
complexity
of
this
issue.
A
I
know
that
we
hear
a
lot
about
it
at
night,
but
I
do
also
have
constituents
who
who
complain
about
it
during
the
day
as
well
and
another
population
that
that
I've
heard
from
is
those
who
are
it's
not
hearing
impaired,
but
people
who
have
hearing
sensitivities
and
like
so
just
as
kind
of
we're.
Looking
at
this
entire
realm
of
how
we
balance
out
the
different,
the
different
needs
of
our
community
I
I.
A
A
shall
at
all
times
be
equipped
and
maintained
in
good
working
order
with
a
factory
installed
devices
and
equipment
or
The
Replacements
designed
to
prevent
reducer
control,
exhaust
emissions
or
air
pollution.
So
that's
really
talking
about
exhaust
emissions
and
air
pollution
and
I
am
curious.
How
does
how
does
anything?
That's
at
the
state
level
interact
with
this
conversation
here,
because
it
looks
like,
while
that's
being
taken
out
of
our
ordinance.
It's
not
that
that's
gone.
J
The
state
statute
obviously
is
there,
and
if
the
officers
wanted
to
enforce
the
state
statute,
they
have
an
option
to
do
so,
so
they
can
enforce
that
particular
State
Statute
and
go
through
magistrate
court
and
it
would
be
adjudicated
through
that
way
if
they've
enforce
a
city
ordinance
which,
generally
speaking
with
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
really
is
a
we'll
say,
a
mover
and
a
Shaker
when
it
comes
to
doing
new
things.
J
So
when
we
do
something
new
like
an
ordinance
whatever
that
is
or
a
new
law
or
whatever
it
is
that
we're
changing
or
modifying,
we
tend
to
go
that
way
when
it
comes
to
enforcement,
and
it's
not
that
the
option
doesn't
have
discretion,
but
we
emphasize
the
city
ordinance
if
we're
and
I'll
go
something
very
similar
to
this
would
be
like
when
obesity
I
want
to
say
decriminalized,
paraphernalia,
drug
paraphernalia,
marijuana
pipe,
for
instance,
that
was
the
route
that
we
took
was
a
city
ordinance
route
and
we
discouraged
into
forcing
the
state
law.
J
So
it's
it's
very
similar
to
this
I
can't
speak
specifically
to
why
that
was
taken
out
of
the
ordinance
I
wasn't
involved
in
the
ordinance
process.
As
far
as
the
amendment
goes,
I
was
just
asked
to
be
the
face
for
you
all
to
answer
questions
on
behalf
of
the
police
department.
That
would
be
a
better
question
for
Jesse
and
his
staff.
K
I
carecast
said
that
that's
correct
and
a
lot
of
in
a
lot
of
situations
we
a
lot
of
times.
We
have
a
mere
an
ends
to
state
statute,
I'm
going
to
use
DWI
as
an
example
again,
but
we
have
our
own
DPI
ordinances
and
so
it's
getting
into
a
lot
of
preemption
issues.
You
know
home
home
rule
municipality
which
Santa
Fe
is
versus
you
know,
are.
B
A
Thank
you
so
I'll
just
talk
about
the
amendment.
It
is
a
little
bit
of
a
of
I
would
say
at
this
point
I.
This
is
really
this
is
coming
forward,
because
I
am
curious
about
the
conversation
I'm,
not
necessarily
sure
that
this
amendment
is
fully
ready
to
go
the
concept
behind
this
and
Kyle.
Correct
me
if
I
misspeak,
because
we
have
had
a
lot
of
conversations
around
this-
is
that
the
individual
who
would
receive
a
citation
would
have
the
option
to
the
ability
to
fix
the
modified,
the
modification.
A
A
So
this
would
allow
them,
because
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
not
that
we
want
to
convict
people.
We
don't
want
their
money.
We
just
really
would
like
to
to
solve
this
issue.
So
that's
what
this
really
gets
at
is
that
they
have
that
option
to
to
provide
that
proof
that
they
have
fixed
the
vehicle
or
proof
that
they
actually
did
not
have
a
modification
to
begin
with
in
the
first
place
and
why
I
started
going
towards
those
modifications.
Is
these
these
conversations
around
subjectivity?
A
Is
you
know
what
is
too
loud
and
there
are
V
or
they're
factory
installed
options
that
does
make
the
car
louder
from
my
very
limited
understanding,
councilor
Lee
Garcia
had
so
much
more
that
those
tend
to
be
a
lower
noise
threshold
than
some
of
the
modifications
that
are
done,
post-factory
that
are
explicit
to
making
the
vehicle
extra
loud.
A
So
there
was
a
lot
of
conversation
about
how
the
stuns
I
did
have
an
opportunity
to
speak,
which
had
chittam
to
understand
the
administrative
process
at
the
court
and
very
clearly
just
the
administrative
process.
He
very
specifically
cannot
give
me
advice
on
on
policy,
so
I
want
to
put
that
on
the
record.
We
just
really
talked
about
looking
at
this
from
the
administrative
perspective,
if
this
would
be
something
that
would
be
doable
at
the
courts.
A
If
there
is
similar
structures
already
in
place-
and
there
is,
there
are
sometimes
not
explicitly
stated-
you
know
he
used,
for
example,
I
think
speeding
tickets
and
there
can
sometimes
be
you
know,
a
component
where
they
they
will
say.
If
you
go,
do
this,
you
won't,
you
won't
have
to
pay.
So
that's
what
this
the
structure
is
based
off.
Kyle,
if
you
have
any
other
anything
else
to
add
about
kind
of
some
of
the
Nuance
of
this
discussion,
please
feel
free.
A
It
does
sound
like
there's
still
a
lot.
I
wish
I
had
more
time
to
work
on
this.
Unfortunately,
we
cannot
hold
it
up
this
committee
any
longer.
We
do
have
to
take
action
on
it
tonight,
even
if
that
is
just
moving
it
along.
This
bill
does
hit
both
Public
Works
and
finance.
So
there
still
is
some
time
to
be
really
looking
into
these
issues.
A
I
would
ask
the
members
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
there's
a
lot
of
components
coming
up
and
and
I'm
happy
to
do
as
much
as
I
can
researching
a
lot
of
these
issues,
but
if
y'all
are
able
to
as
well,
this
is
just
so
complex
and
I,
because
we
are
on
this
path
right
now
in
terms
of
timing,
I
would
suggest
that
perhaps
of
looking
into
some
of
these
other
options
so
I'm
sorry
I
will
stop
rambling
Kyle.
If
you
had
anything
to
add.
K
Sure
cat
you
know
one
of
the
first
things
I'm
going
to
add
is
you
know
the
discussion
went
to
you
know,
I,
think
everyone
wants
it
to
just
be
fixed
right.
K
So
the
discussion
was:
is
this
something
that
needs
that
should
be
written
in
that
it
could
be
fixed
before
someone
gets
adjudicated
or
after
someone
gets
adjudicated
and
I
I
believe
the
amendment
that
is
submitted
is
pre-adjudication,
but
but
there's
places
where
this
is
specifically
written
into
the
ordinance
something
similar
anyway,
for
example,
for
no
insurance,
there's
a
section
written
in
that
says.
Basically,
if
someone
provides
proof
before
they
come
to
court
that
they
had
insurance
on
the
date
that
they
were
cited,
that
they
won't
be,
they
won't
be
convicted.
K
We
a
lot
of
the
language,
is
poor
or
inspired.
I
guess
I
should
say
from
the
from
the
noise
ordinance
which,
which
does
have
a
section
specifically
for
motor
vehicle
motor
vehicle
noise
as
well,
but
that
one
said
specific
decibel
levels,
but
it
it.
K
It's
does
allow
someone
to
get
basically
get
the
fines
waived
if
they
fix
the
the
pick
the
muffler,
and
you
know,
because
just
one
more
thing
currently
when
I
see
these
tickets
come
across,
my
desk
I
mean
that's
I
I
think
that's
probably
what
Mystic
Freedom
was
alluding
to
is,
if
you
feel
me
proof
that
you
you've
fixed
this,
this
issue
dismiss
it
because,
ultimately,.
K
You
know
someone
would
say
that
the
only
I
don't
know
if
it's
an
issue,
but
the
I'm
going
to
call
it
an
issue
with
that.
Is
that
it's
it's
it's
discretionary
right.
So
if
it's
specifically
written
in
the
ordinance,
then
that's
something
that
has
to
follow.
K
G
K
K
Come
on,
excuse
me
fix
it.
B
K
K
Ing
some
other,
so
the
traffic
ordinances,
as
well
as
potentially
changing
the
citations
that
the
officers
give
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
other
issues
that
haven't
been
particularly
potential
issues
that
haven't
been
vetted
with
with
that.
But
in
any
event,
you
know
I
think
it
probably
is
beyond
the
scope
of
this.
This
bill.
A
And
just
to
clarify
so
so
whether
or
not
somebody
presents
proof
of
fixing
it,
it
is
at
the
discretion
right
now
of
Mr
hibner
and
the
courts
to
say
great
job.
No
fine,
no
Citation
for
you,
but
it
is
not
explicit.
So
a
different
prosecutor,
a
different
judge,
could
say:
okay,
you
fixed
it,
but
we
have
probable
cause
to
believe
that
you
were
still
guilty.
So,
even
though
you
have
fixed
it
now,
we
can
we're
still
going
to
find
you
and
we
are
you're
still
going
to
have
a
conviction
on
your
record.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
so
we're
going
back
to
fix
it.
F
How
do
you
fix
that
vehicle
that
I
just
explained
that
has
an
open
Engine
with
pipes
that
come
out
look
kind
of
cool
they're
gonna
be
loud,
they're
less
loud
than
not
having
anything
on
there.
But
how
do
you
fix
that?
You
can't
install
Mufflers
on
him.
F
It's
a
classic
car
that
somebody's
put
their
life
into
and
and
again
I
get
I
can
see
where
that
is
this
discretion.
Now
now,
if
this
person
is
taking
this
vehicle
and
driving
down
Cerrillos
Road
or
the
downtown
area
at
10
11
o'clock
at
night,
creating
havoc
I,
guess
that
can
be
discretionary
and
I
guess
that
maybe
could
be
discretionary
to
the
officer
when
the
when
they
see
this
action
happening.
F
B
F
K
B
B
A
A
F
I
think
that
the
answer
to
that
question
is
that
everything
about
this
vehicle
has
been
modified.
There
really
isn't
any
devices
that
probably
could
be
installed
other
than
taking
it
to
back
to
a
factory
would
have
been
back
in
1929,
because
it's
an
old
model
T
or
a
Model,
A
or
model
something
that
somebody
built
and
so
in
in
in
that
regards
I.
Think
there's
almost
to
you
take
away
complete
the
Nostalgia
of
that
vehicle
and
and
again
I.
A
That
option
I
guess
I
may
and
that's
why
I
was
wondering
like
would
it
make
sense,
and
this
would
be
something
that
maybe
you
and
I
can
have
a
bigger
discussion
offline
to
put
a
year
kind
of
Gap
in
there.
You
know
if
we're
really
talking
about
some
of
these
classic
vehicles,
but
I
think
ultimately,
I
mean
that
is
that
is
kind
of
the
policy
question
that
this
governing
or
that
this
committee,
and
eventually
the
governing
body
is
charged
with.
Is
that
what
is
acceptable
in
terms
of
loud
vehicles
and
so
yeah?
F
Difficult
and
if
I
may
just
also
reading
through
the
the
question
that
was
raised
earlier
as
far
as
a
classic
vehicle
I
think
20
years
is
considered
a
classic
vehicle,
so
we're
2022,
so
2018
prior
to
2002
is
considered
a
classic.
F
Let's
go
into
for
the
example
and
and
back
again
to
you,
know:
I
back
towards
noise
and
I
think
this
is
going
back
towards
noise.
Somebody's
I
had
a
conversation
with
someone
and
they
raised
a
question
about
catalytic
converters,
getting
cut
out
and
you
that's
a
noisy
vehicle
and
you
may
not
be
able
to
repair
that
vehicle
for
x
amount
of
time
because
of
cost
because
of
availability,
because
of
so
on
and
and
I
know.
That's
not
what
this
is
this.
F
What
we're
talking
about
here
in
regards
to
addressing
the
noise
issue,
but
somebody
may
not
have
the
means
to
fix
their
vehicle
immediately
and
that
goes
back
to
you
know.
Are
we
addressing
the
issue
of
noise
and
going
back
to
are
people
able
to
fix
their
vehicles
immediately
and
and
enforceability
and
all
those
things,
and
so
these
are
absolutely
great
conversations
that
we're
having
and
I
think
that's.
Why
we're
having
him
here
at
this
committee
level,
so
I'll
stop
there
as
well.
Thank
you.
A
Counselor
to
follow
up
on
that
one
because
I'm
glad
you
brought
that
up,
because
that
was
another
component
of
this.
That
I
think
maybe
got
missed
in
the
amendment
conversation
one.
We
also
know
that
people
like
to
steal
catalytic,
am
I,
saying
it
right,
converters,
catalytic
converters
and
what
happens
if
somebody
has
their
catalytic
converter
stolen
and
to
your
point
that
there
isn't
that
they
do
not
have
the
finances
to
get
it
fixed
right
away
and
and
Kyle
with
how
this
ordinance
is
written.
A
First
of
all,
if
it
is
stolen,
they
should
file
a
police
report,
because
that's
good
evidence
that
hey
something
was
stolen,
but
two
within
this
ordinance
either
the
proposed
or
the
amend
or
potentially
amended
or
both
is
there
the
judicial
discretion?
To
really
look
at
that
scenario
and
say:
there's
something
different
going
on
here.
A
K
I
think
the
Judge
is
always
going
to
have
the
discretion
whether
or
not
to
find
guilt
or
not.
Now
is
there
something
in
the
ordinance,
as
it's
presented,
that
that
makes
a
carve
out
for
that
I?
Don't
think
there
is
because
it's
talking
about
all
these
vehicles
need
to
have
a
good
working,
muffler
or
noise
control
device.
K
So
as
far
as
ordinance,
I
I
don't
think
there
is
that
that
just
giving
that
discretion,
but
I
think
the
Judge
does
have
the
discretion
on
whether
or
not
he
or
he's
going
to
find
the
person
find
the
person
guilty,
and
it
may
be
that
you
know
it's.
You
know
it's
an
extenuating
circumstance
and
the
the
defendant
should
be
found
not
guilty.
A
A
So
given
the
lateness
of
the
hour
and
the
fact
that
I
don't
think
that
this
committee
is
going
to
resolve
a
lot
of
the
questions
right
now,
we
cannot
hold
this
bill
again
for
our
procedural
rules.
We
have
a
couple
options
for
it.
A
We
can
move
it
forward
to
the
next
committee
we
can
see
if
there
are
either
the
votes
to
approve
it
or
deny
it.
A
unanimous
denial
by
this
committee
would
at
this
time
prevent
the
bill
from
moving
forward
as
presented.
A
My
personal
opinion
is
that
this
is
an
issue
that
we
cannot
not
address
that.
This
is
something
that
we
that
I
I
feel
that
there
there's
a
real
issue
in
this
community
and
a
lot
of
people
that
are
really
struggling
here.
A
My
proposal
would
be
to
move
this
forward
without
recommendation
again.
It
hits
both
Public,
Works
and
finance.
Both
those
committees
will
have
opportunities
to
work
on
this
bill.
Both
those
committees
have
the
option
to
hold
it
longer,
if
need
be,
but
I
think
that
there's
still
a
lot
of
discussion
and
a
lot
of
information
that
needs
to
be
gathered.
So
that
is
that
those
are
the
choices
in
front
of
us
at
this
moment,
and
I
will
see
what
the
committee
would
like
to.
G
Do
councilman,
I'm
sure
I
just
had
a
question
for
Kyle
just
another
follow-up
when
there's
fees
assessed
for
a
certain
violation
or
fines
assessed,
can
that
funding
source
be
used
specifically
for
a
fund
like
say
for
lack
of
a
better
term
fix
it
fund?
It
actually
goes
towards.
G
Supporting
situations
that
we're
talking
about
that
are
not
I,
don't
think,
are
the
culprits.
The
situation
that
would
be
able
to
help
I,
don't
know
in
this
case
I,
don't
think
that
that
car,
that
you're
describing
could
be
modified,
Council
Garcia,
but
is
that
possible
to
direct
a
certain
fine
for
a
certain
or
specific
citation.
K
Counselor
Villarreal
I'm,
not
sure
on
the
fine,
as
it's
currently
presented,
I,
don't
think
that
that
I
I
think
it
would
need
something
else
to
direct
that
to
go
there,
but
I'm,
not
sure
if
it,
even
if
there
was
an
additional
language,
I'm,
not
sure.
If
that
could
I
I
believe
for
the
fees.
Would
you
know
which
I'm
considering
different
from
Define,
so
the
court
costs
I
believe
those
are
all
earmarked
for
specific
fund
but
I'm
not
sure
about
the
fine.
A
On
that
same
point,
I
think
for
the
for
the
classic
car-
maybe
not,
but
for
somebody
who
maybe
has
had
their
catalytic
converter
stolen,
perhaps
the
connect
funds
actually
might
be
something
that
would
be
able
to
be
utilized
for
that.
So
that
would
be
something
else
that
I'd
be
interested.
If
that
is
I'd
be
curious
information
on.
B
A
F
Just
an
answer
to
your
question,
counselor
via
councilwoman,
is
that
if,
let's
just
see
a
catalytic
converter
is
stolen
straight
pipe
it
let
me
make
the
car
sound
louder
and
it'll
be
different,
sounding
so
I.
Don't
again
it
won't
be
it's
not
going
to
be
in
the
category
of
what
we're
really
trying
to
focus
on
here
which
are
modified
Mufflers
that
make
a
car
specifically
loud
and,
and
so,
but
all
of
these
things
affect
this
because
I
didn't
give.
F
B
A
F
You,
madam
chair
I,
I,
think
that
it
is
important
that
we
allow
our
colleagues
to
chime
in
on
these.
At
the
same
time,
I
don't
necessarily
feel
that
I
have
I
am
in
support
of
this,
and
I
will
just
say
that
right
away
because
of
the
of
the
there's
so
many
there's
so
many
different
gray
areas
to
it
and
I
don't
know
necessarily
that
we're
focusing
specifically
on
the
real
issue,
which
is
the
noise
I
know
that
it
comes
out
at
different
times
of
the
day.
F
But
you
know
for
the
sake
of
others.
I
I
don't
know
that
I
can
support.
It,
I'd
like
to
see
it
moving
along
in
a
sense,
but
given
others
the
opportunity
to
chime
in
and
understanding
and
knowing
that
it
is
a
big
issue
in
our
community
and
yet,
at
the
same
time,
I
think
it
kind
of
isolates
and
targets
a
very
a
certain
group
of
people
in
our
community.
The
young
people
who
are
car
enthusiasts,
the
people
who
are
classic
car
enthusiasts
and
again
noises
noise.
F
It
could
be
a
diesel
truck
rolling
down
the
road.
It
could
be
a
garbage
truck,
making
noise
and
and
so
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
areas
other
than
just
mufflers
and
I
know.
There
are
some
Mufflers
that
out
there
that
are
really
really
loud,
and
so
that
being
said,
I
I
could
support
it
going
doing
without
a
recommendation,
but
in
the
future,
I
may
not
support
this
and
I'm.
Just
saying
that
on
the
record,
thank
you.
A
A
Yes,
and
for
the
record,
I
will
explain
my
vote.
I
can't
floor
to
me
to
do
so,
as
I
mentioned
before.
Just
so,
I
want
to
be
very
clear.
I
do
think
that
this
is
a
really
complex
issue.
I
think
that
is
an
issue
that
we
do
need
to
find.
Some
type
of
solution
for
I
do
not
think
that
the
way
things
are
right
now
that
we
can
that
this
is
acceptable.
A
I
do
think
that
there's
a
lot
more
information
and
research
and
kind
of
understanding
that
needs
to
go
into
what
what
our
possibilities
are,
what
our
potential
Solutions
are
and
I
do
not
think
that
the
way
that
the
bill
as
an
originally
proposed
will
actually
address
the
issue
and-
and
that's
one
of
my
biggest
challenges
with
it-
that
I
don't
I,
don't
think
that
the
increased
fine
will
actually
solve
the
problem
and
so
I'm
willing
to
to
really
take
time
and
dig
into
dig
into
this
to
look
at
what
some
potential
Solutions
are.