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A
B
A
You
so
much
and
moving
to
approval
of
the
agenda
staff.
We
do
have
some
changes.
Can
you
please
go
through
those.
B
Madam
chair,
we
are
removing
Item
B
quest
for
b,
as
in
boy
requests
for
approval
of
amendment
number.
One
of
the
amended
mortgage
agreement
for
cater
contenta
authorizes
the
city
manager
to
Grant
release
of
the
mortgage
on
behalf
of
the
city
in
order
to
facilitate
land
sales
or
face
through
development
of
Kiera
contenta.
A
Well,
thank
you
and,
in
addition,
the
sponsors
have
requested
that
item
J
be
postponed
indefinitely.
This
is
a
consideration
of
a
bill
sponsored
by
Council
Romero
worth
mayor,
Weber
and
counselor
Chavez.
It's
an
ordinance
repealing
section
10-11
of
Santa
Fe
city
code
1987,
creating
a
new
section
10-11
to
establish
an
ordinance
relating
to
shopping
carts,
incentivizing
retail
establishments
to
ensure
their
shopping
carts
remain
on
their
property
and
imposing
a
fee
for
shopping,
cart,
return
and
establishing
an
effective
date.
So
again,
this
is
postponed
indefinitely,
so
we
will
not
be
hearing
it
tonight.
A
C
A
A
The
reason
you
had
Deja
Vu
was
because
you
have
already
so
that's
why?
Okay
thank
you,
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve,
as
amended.
A
For
a
second
all,
those
in
favor,
say
aye,
any
opposed
motion
passes.
Moving
on
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
any
items
that
the
committee
would
like
to
remove.
D
E
A
A
Moving
on
to
presentation,
we
have
a
Midtown
progress
report,
Midtown
moving
forward
updates
on
the
Midtown
Redevelopment
plans.
We
have
rich
brown
Lee
log
Spin
and
do
we
have
Daniel
Fernandez.
F
Council
I'm
waiting
for
Daniel
Hernandez
who's,
going
to
run
the
presentation
but
I'm
ready
to
go,
and
hopefully
we
can
do
the
presentation.
Maybe
it's
not
there,
but.
F
D
F
Members
of
the
council.
Thank
you
for
the
time
tonight,
Daniel
Hernandez,
our
project
manager
is
on
his
way
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
Enlighten
everyone
and
what
I
know
on
his
presentation
deck
for
our
progress
report.
Lee
logs
and
our
asset
development
manager
is
here
as
we
talk
about.
Oh
there's,
the
man
of
the
hour.
You
know
that's,
okay,.
F
So,
while
he's
catching
his
breath,
so,
as
you
know,
we've
had
a
resolution
pass
for
Midtown
Redevelopment
and,
as
you
see
on
the
slides
here,
there
were
development
action
plans
that
we're
going
through
and
in
this
partisan,
Court
Daniel
has
updated
where
we
are
in
the
progress
and
we're
going
to
dig
a
little
bit
deeper
into
the
slides
as
to
where
we
are,
but
just
as
an
overview
for
the
Redevelopment
plans
and
what
we
have
together.
So
we
are
in
the
process
of
rezoning
the
site.
F
We
recently
had
a
e
n
and
those
answers
to
the
questions
from
the
e
m
process
have
been
posted
on
our
website
and
has
been
put
out
into
the
Press.
So
if
you
have
any
questions
about
the
e
m,
you
can
find
it
at
Midtown,
District,
Santa
fe.com,
so
we're
moving
forward
with
that
and
Lee
will
speak
to
I.
Think
also
when
the
application
is
due.
I
think
it's
in
next
week,
it's
due
to
the
land
use
Department.
F
Next
to
we're
working
on
our
infrastructure
plan.
We
are
engaged
with
an
outside
vendor
who's,
helping
us
with
assessments
on
infrastructure,
so
that
is
in
the
process.
That
is
a
key
part
of
how
do
we
get
to
our
land
and
master
planning
that
we're
working
on
all
together?
Next
we're
looking
at
the
sites
and
buildings
that
are
up
for
reuse,
Samuel
Burnett
from
the
public
works
department
works
closely
with
our
team
on
what
buildings
are
in
the
ReUse
phase.
What
buildings
are
in
the
demolition
phase?
F
What
buildings
are
in
a
strategic
underperforming
stage
and
the
team
is
working
through
those
those
plans,
Daniel?
Who
will
speak
a
little
bit
about
rfps
that
are
going
out
or
our
existing
buildings
I
call
them
our
Legacy
Buildings.
So
we
have
the
visual
arts
center.
We
have
the
Garson
performance
theater,
we
have
the
Garson,
perform
Production
Studios
and
then
we're
also
working
through
of
where
we're
going
to
do
or
ideas
for
Innovation
for
the
focusing
Library.
F
Additionally,
we
are
looking
at
a
next
phase
beyond
the
art
piece
once
the
rezoning
is
done
and
infrastructure
is
in
place
and
land
development
plan
is
in
place
on
phase
one
for
affordable
housing
and
Daniel.
Can
speak
to
that
into
the
subsequent
slides
from
there
we
have
been
having
ongoing
conversations
about
mechanisms
for
funding.
F
There
are
various
ways
to
fund
this
development
and,
as
a
city,
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
put
together
what
they
call
the
subsidies,
which
is
the
all
the
funding
for
the
infrastructure,
roads,
storm
water
power,
internet
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
So
we
are
working
with
the
finance
department
and
our
Consultants
from
strategic
economics
around
the
land
economics
plan
and
we're
hoping
to
have
that
again.
You
can
speak
to
I.
Think
that's
coming
up
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
we're
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
that
and
it
may
be
a
series.
F
It'll
come
to
finance
first
as
a
as
an
educational
series,
because
there's
a
lot
of
words
and
language
they
use.
That
could
be
a
little
hard
to
understand,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
we
keep
it
so
that
the
public
and
the
council
understands
what
we're
about
to
do
as
we
look
at
our
economics
to
get
this
moving.
F
So
then,
after
that,
we
have
currently
an
Engaged
on
an
ongoing
basis.
We've
just
finished
the
public
engagement.
We're
in
another
continuing
education
phase,
it's
really
about
feedback,
so
Daniel's
going
to
speak
to
the
community
development
plan
and
he's
going
to
speak
to
the
land
development
plan
and
those
two
plans
intersect
to
create
our
master
plan
for
the
development
site
and
Danny
will
speak
to
that
where
we
are
in
the
process,
and
he
has
a
couple
of
slides
that
are
exciting
to
understand
what
the
timeline
is.
F
G
So
this
you've
seen
a
few
of
these
slides
before,
but
the
one
that
you
just
saw
actually
has
some
updates.
As
far
as
like
it's
it's
happening,
so
things
are
on
the
ground
and
these
next
few
months,
there's
just
so
much
activity
that
Council
members,
the
public
Planning
Commission
will
be
seeing.
But
what's
exciting
news
is
Lee.
Fox
News
here
has
is
completing
the
land
application,
the
land
use
application.
It
will
go
in
next,
Monday,
August,
22nd
and
we'll
have
more
updates.
G
There's
a
feature
slide
about
that.
But
it's
a
significant
moment.
That's
really
the
culmination
of
a
lot
of
work.
That's
been
happening
over
the
past
few
years
and
it's
finally
getting
into
an
application
to
the
land
use
Office.
The
other
one
is
a
community
development
plan
and
that's
will
be
the
focus
of
tonight's
you'll,
be
the
first
committee
actually
to
get
some
insights
into
the
community
development
plan
that
have
been
been
informed
by
many
years
of
community
input,
which
started
probably
through
the
in
the
link
era.
G
When
people
were
talking
about
the
link
overlay
but
more
importantly
during
the
2018
summer,
sort
of
when
communities
were
talking
about
the
vision
of
Midtown
that
culminated
in
the
I
think
it's
called
the
Midtown
campus
report
that
informed
the
resolution
about
the
Midtown
planning
guidelines
and
then
more
recently,
the
work
that
we
did
with
the
new.
The
University
of
New
Mexico
design,
planning,
Assistance
Center
and
worked
with
the
Midtown
engagement
Partners
to
create
the
Midtown
engagement
report.
D
G
C
G
G
G
Two
plans
come
together
to
really
provide
guidance
and
Regulatory
guidance
for
the
future
of
the
Midtown
site.
The
land
development
plan
is
exactly
that.
It
describes
on
what
can
happen
on
the
land.
The
land
uses
design
standards.
What
can
and
cannot
get
built
on
that
property?
That
comes
from
a
lot
of
discussions
about
what
people
want
to
see
built
there.
That
is
a
regulatory
document.
That
is
a
legal
document
that
has
to
be
followed
when
anyone
wants
to
do
any
type
of
development
on
that
property.
So.
G
B
G
Not
a
regulatory
or
legal
document,
but
it
is
something
that
you
will
approve
through
a
the
governing
body
will
approve
for
a
resolution
and
it's
different
from
the
land
development
plan,
and
it's
not
regulatory,
but
it
helps
to
implement
policies
that
we've
heard
all
along
from
the
community.
We
want
to
see
these
levels
of
affordability.
We
want
these
types
of
jobs.
We
want
this
type
of
job
access.
This
is
the
type
of
public
programming
we
want
to
see.
G
This
is
the
involvement
of
the
public
and
ongoing
governance
of
the
site
that
we
want
to
see
these
different
types
of
things
that
aren't
about
what
you
can
and
kind
of
build
on
the
land.
But
what
happens
from
a
much
more
policy
social
environment
that
can
be
created
at
Midtown
to
achieve.
B
G
Lot
of
Community
Development
goals.
So
again,
this
is
the
process
for
the
land
development
plan,
the
regulatory
document
it
goes
first
to
as
an
application.
We
started
out
in
July
of
last
month,
July
14th,
with
the
early
neighborhood
notification
meeting.
It's
a
public
hearing,
that's
required
to
even
enter
into
the
land
use
approvals
process.
G
This
is
just
a
high
level
view
of
the
the
master
plan
it
was
published
as
part
of
the
e
m
presentation.
The
master
plan
will
be
excerpts
from
the
master
plan
will
also
be
put
on
the
website
beginning
this
week,
so
that
the
public
has
access
to
excerpts.
Most
of
the
app
master
plan
will
be
on
the
website
now
during
the
application
period,
so
that
people
can
look
at
it
and
we'll
be
receiving
comments
about
it
and
then
again,
we'll
hear
more
comments
during
the
hearing
process
in
October.
G
So
again,
I'm
not
going
to
read
all
of
this,
but
but
I.
Believe
you
have
this
presentation
and
I
encourage
you
to
sort
of
understand
what
the
master
plan
does.
As
far
as
creating
the
design
guidelines
and
the
types
of
Land
Development
that
we
want
to
see
at
Midtown,
it
is
a
the
land
use
development.
The
land
development
plan
includes
both
the
master
plan
and
the
zoning.
The
zoning
is
what
says:
what
can
and
cannot
be
built.
G
The
master
plan
includes
phases
of
development
where
infrastructure
and
block
patterns
are
located,
uses
and
how
they're
spread
around
the
site,
the
existing
buildings
that
will
remain
on
the
site,
so
it
allows
us
there
to
begin
parceling,
parcelizing
the
site
so
that
we
can
begin
disposing,
selling
property
or
mass
releasing
property
through
the
RFP
process.
The.
G
Plan,
as
I
said
earlier,
is
a
policy
document,
so
it
is
again
it's
based
on
all
of
the
community
input
and,
more
recently,
the
Midtown
engagement
Partners
report.
We
have
organized
it
in
the
elements
of
sustainability.
From
the
very
beginning,
we
heard
a
lot
of
people
wanting
to
us
to
Define
what
equity
and
sustainability
would
be
at
Midtown.
So
we
listened
a
lot
to
the
elements
of
sustainability
that
they'd
want
to
see
there
they're
organized
under
the
elements,
the
international
element,
sustainability,
Equity,
environment,
economy
and
specific
to
Santa,
Fe
culture.
G
We
knew
that
one
of
the
main
drivers
is
is
how
we
might
think
about
culture
at
Midtown
and
the
future
of
and
ways
that
Midtown
can
promote
ideas
around
culture.
So
the
equity
chapter
is
focused
primarily
on
housing.
Affordability,
I
have
presented
to
the
governor,
yeah
I,
think
we'll
see
the
governing
body
last
month.
There
was
a
lot
of
questions
about
housing,
affordability.
It
goes
into
greater
detail
in
the
community
development
plan.
G
There
was
comments
by
some
of
you
about
the
percentages
of
affordability,
we've
increased
the
levels
of
affordability
to
30
percent
and
so
there's
a
higher
portion,
and
it
describes
how
they
can
be
how
they
will
be
built
on
various
sites,
as
well
as
through
the
inclusionary
requirements
that
the
city
has
Alexander.
Who
was
oh
there.
She
is,
can
helped
a
lot
on
Crafting
that
that
chapter
getting
on
the
housing
affordability.
G
It
also
talks
about
rfps
that
we
want
to
get
out
to
help
facilitate
and
build
capacity
for
either
existing
developers
to
work
with
Community
organizations
as
part
of
the
housing
development,
so
that
we
began
building
a
stronger,
Community,
Development
network
of
developers
who
can
begin
implementing
and
participating
in
housing
development
in
communities.
We
thought
that
that
was
an
important
thing
to
help
think
about
future
neighborhoods.
Like
the
Hopewell
band.
G
The
environment
chapter
of
the
community
development
plan
is
focused
on
green
and
sustainability
for
the
site,
so
it
talks
a
lot
about
the
types
of
resilient
infrastructure,
green,
green
infrastructure,
water
retention,
watery,
the
reduction
of
water
use
in
Midtown
as
well.
It
has
blocks
of
Street
patterns
that
promote
healthy
walking
blocks,
so
they're
not
long
blocks,
they're
blocks
that
can
accommodate
the
type
of
development
we
want
to
see,
but
also
our
distance,
wise,
Health
facilitate
and
promote
walkability
and
bikeability
there's
open
space.
G
We
heard
a
lot
about
the
need
and
desire
for
Hope
and
space
at
Midtown
and
also
connecting
the
open
space
in
Midtown
to
existing
Midtown
like
miles
park.
That's
so
close
in
from
an
aerial
perspective,
but
but
right
now
seems
so
far
away,
so
how
we
might
create
connect
the
Green
Space
open
space
in
Midtown
to
existing,
so
to
kind
of
broaden
that
Network
there
is
a
plaza
in
the
interior
of
Midtown.
Also
that
is
dimension
so
that
it
can
accommodate
various
community
events.
G
We
heard
all
types
of
events
from
concert,
theaters
powwows,
so
that
it
can
accommodate
various
types
of
cultural
events
that
people
want
to
see
there
and
and
again
it
just
goes
into
a
lot
of
connectivity.
We
built
a
lot
on
what
was
already
done
in
the
link
overlay
ordinance,
and
that
was
the
premise
of
the
way
that
we
thought
about
the
Redevelopment
Midtown,
but
we
added
additional
design
standards
to
create
the
type
of
density
and
walkability
and
Street
frontages
to
ensure
a
pedestrian
friendly
environment.
G
On
the
in
the
economy
chapter,
we
focus
a
lot
about
our
job
creation,
so
we
knew
that.
We
know
that-
and
this
is
you
know
since
2018-
that
Film
Production
was
the
expansion
of
Film
Production
at
the
site
was
really
important,
as
well
as
technology
that
supports
Film
Production
but
other
types
of
Technology
as
well.
So
it
just
wasn't
about
creating
the
jobs,
but
it
was.
It
was
identifying
ways
that
we
ensured
that
that
residents
had
access
to
those
jobs.
G
So
there's
thoughts
about
internship
programs
that
we'd
want
to
write
into
rfps
that
we
want
to
make
that
a
competitive
criteria
for
the
way
that
a
respondent
might
say.
Well,
we
can
create
this
level
of
internships
annually
for
local
residents,
as
well
as
ways
that
they
would
communicate
the
jobs
available,
available
jobs
and
potential
training
opportunities
so
again
for
local
residents
to
access
jobs.
G
We
would
write
those
in
preferences
into
the
rfps
so
that
we
would
give
competitive
responses
and
we
would
judge
them
based
on
their
achieve
some
of
these
Community
Development
goals
yeah.
So
anyway,
that's
the
economy
chapter
then.
So
the
culture
chapter
is
probably
the
most
qualitative
sort
of
oriented,
but
we
wanted
to
try
to
put
some
specific
things
in
there.
G
One
of
the
key
pieces
that
is
going
on
in
a
lot
of
cities
is
just
recognizing
that
a
lot
of
the
the
Community
Arts
programs
that
we
see
in
neighborhoods
also
run
the
risk
of
displacement
from
their
communities
and
they've
been
such
important
landmarks
in
their
communities
because
they
do
hold
the
treasures
of
community
arts
and
culture.
G
So
one
of
the
key
things
that
we're
getting
out
initially
in
this
project
in
the
RFP
process
is
the
the
the
is
the
existing
Visual
Arts
Center
for
a
Community
Arts
as
a
with
the
goal
of
stabilizing
Community
Arts.
So
again,
it's
just
the
the
RFP
is
structured
right
now,
so
that
we
want
to
see
responses
that
stabilize
the
the
operating
expenses
through
leases
so
that
there
are
affordable
spaces
in
the
visual
arts
center
for
Community,
Arts
programming
and
organizations.
G
G
The
community
development
plan
talks
about
facilitating
agreements
with
organizations
to
do
programming
at
Midtown
at
the
Midtown
site,
and
rather
than
thinking
that,
there's
a
centralized
entity
that
and
that
does
all
the
programming
that
they
would
do
collaborations
with
existing
organizations
to
facilitate
Arts
and
Cultural
programming
and
place,
making
it
an
important
town
and
has
been
near
people
saying
that
we
need
to
stop
saying
Place.
Making
in
places
that
have
a
really
rich
Place
sense
of
place
and
a
phrase
that
is
being
going
around.
G
The
country
is
being
called
Place,
keeping
which
I
really
enjoy.
G
So
again,
we
we
plan
on
just
trying
to
think
of
different
ways
and
I
think
it
will
continue
to
evolve,
but
we
wanted
to
open
up
the
conversation,
the
community
development
plan.
One
thing
that
we're
doing
is:
we
want
to
reuse,
for
example,
the
existing
sculpture,
that's
on
the
site
and
place
it
back
in
the
site
on
into
public
spaces
and
also
there's
proposals
for
ways
that
we
want
to
think
about
ways
for
Community
to
be
participate
as
advisors
or
otherwise,
in
the
governance
of
of
Midtown.
G
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
will
be
discussing
as
you
as
the
governing
body
will
continue
to
hear
about
the
Metropolitan
Development
Area
is
governance
structure
and
how
that
governance
structure
includes
things
about
interacts
with
Community
participation
in
governance
and
programming,
a
future
of
Midtown.
So
again,
the
community
development
plan
is
getting
posted
this
week.
It's
draft,
it
is
not
formatted.
It's
like
a
Word
document.
It's
not
great
right
now,
but
we
wanted
to
get
it
circulated
rather
than
think
of
it
as
a
pre-document.
G
We
wanted
to
think
of
it
as
a
document
that
begins
tricks
to
me
like
conversation.
So
here
is
the
rollout
again
we're
gonna
it's
getting
posted
this
week,
we're
presenting
this
evening
to
the
quality
of
life
presentation
to
quality
of
life,
we're
going
to
go
to
the
governing
body
to
make
a
brief
presentation
on
it,
we'll
go
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
we
wanted
to
do
that
before
they
heard
the
land
development
plan
so
that
they
understood
the
relationship
with
the
community
development
plan
to
the
land
development
plan.
G
We'll
go
back
again
as
one
of
our
progress
reports,
the
governing
body.
Then,
when
we're
getting
into
the
resolution
mode
for
your
proof
of
the
governing
body's
approval,
we'll
go
to
edac
finance
committee
and
then,
ultimately
to
the
governing
body,
they
will
hear
the
community
development
plan
the
same
night
as
a
land
development
plan.
So
we
can
talk
about
that
night,
the
intersection
between
those
two
plans
and
the
importance
of
of
getting
them
approved
at
the
same
time.
G
I
I
put
this
as
one
of
the
last
slides,
because
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understood
that
the
the
main
reports
that
we
heard
besides
the
many
many
emails,
but
many
many
comments
we
get
when
every
day
about
the
future
of
Midtown.
These
reports
hold
a
lot
of
information
and
they
were
truly
used
as
to
inform
the
community
development
plan
and
again
we
are
still
in
feedback
and
education
mode
that
we'll
be
going
through.
G
The
required
public
hearings
for
approvals,
particularly
the
land
development
plan
and
then
again,
as
we
present
the
community
weapon
plan
and
committees
announcement
to
the
government
body,
but
also
there
is
a
community
Stipe,
a
planning,
stipend
program
that
we're
keep
on
telling
Community
groups
like
look
tell
us
what
you
want
to
do
we're.
G
You
know
we
have
funds
available
to
defray
some
of
the
costs
for
hosting
an
event
we
put
together
just
a
small
group
of
us
who
are
able
to
go
to
events
to
help
clarify
questions
that
people
may
have
so
it's
Rich,
Alexandra,
Lee,
myself,
Andrea,
so
we're
all
available
to
help.
You
know
go
to
these
meetings
and
one
of
us,
our
two
of
us,
will
be
there
when
they,
when
we're
asked
again
they're
on
the
website.
G
These
documents
I
encourage
you
to
visit
them,
they're
there
for
the
public,
so
that
I'm
here
for
questions
too
Alex
and
Andrea.
We
are.
E
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
here
and
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
presentation.
I'll
move
to
see
the
committee
questions.
Counselor,
Michael,
Garcia,.
C
E
H
E
Both
of
them
yes,
okay,
and
are
we
going
to
send
out
a
press
release
anything
like
that
to
notify
folks,
okay,
just
because
sometimes
it's
harder
to
access
I
know,
we've
been
pushing
folks
to
the
Midtown
site,
but
if
we
can
do
a
press
release
as
well,
notifying
folks
that
it's
available
fantastic,
definitely
look
forward
to
reading
both
reports.
E
Second
question
I've
got
is
around
the
master
plan.
You've
gave
us
from
what
it
looks
like
a
very
much
a
rough
sketch
of
what's
being
proposed
at
the
site.
If
we
can
pull
that
slide
up
that
slide,
seven
I
think
or
six.
E
Go
and
so
the
gray
buildings
I'm,
assuming
in
the
middle,
are
going
to
be
the
new
redeveloped
structures
where
oglesson
is
right.
Above
it,
it's
got
kind
of
wider
rooftop
that
that's
the
library
structure,
but
it
looks
like
what's
being
proposed,
is
a
lot
of
the
stuff.
That's
there,
because
I
know
that
there
had
been
some
identified
locations
where
we
might
keep
it,
such
as
alumni
health,
and
from
this
this
draft
it
looks
like
completely
new
structures
centered
around
this
Plaza
area
that
you
spoke
about.
Is
that
correct?
That's.
D
E
Okay,
and
so,
as
far
as
the
other
structures
that
were
listed
as
kind
of
Legacy
structures,
we've
got
Fogelson.
What
were
some
of
the
other
structures
that
folks
were
wanting
to
keep
and
help.
G
In
existing
buildings
presentation
and
identified
the
priority
buildings
which
were
the
Visual
Arts
Center,
the
Performing
Arts
across
and
Performing
Arts
buildings
on
that
complex
Library,
complex
St,
Michaels
hall
and
then
the
Garson
Studios
and
benildos
Hall.
G
A
there's
a
a
parcel
that
we're
yeah
we're
Alumni
Hall
is
currently
okay.
F
E
F
Chair
I
can
speak
a
little
bit
to
that
and
and
Michelle's
are
also
on.
The
legal
team
can
speak
to
it.
Yes,
right
now,
we
with
our
asset
development
manager,
lee
Bluffton
and
Mr
Terry
Leese.
We
are
working
with
the
state,
GSD
and
they've
agreed
to
swap
the
land
with
us.
F
We
have
little
teeny
Parcels
in
the
beginning,
but
they're
agreed
to
swap
all
of
the
land
and
I
was
going
to
ask
Mr
Hernandez
if
he
could
just
walk
over
to
the
map
to
show
this
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
them
on
YouTube,
but
he
can
show
you
kind
of
where
those
slots
are
I
know
lee
Ken
the
land
swap
areas
that
we
were.
F
We're
not
hearing
them
okay,
so
that's
fine,
I'll
I'll
be
able
to
articulate
it
then
Lee.
So
where
Lee
is
we're
at
least
hand
is
to
the
left
just
make
a
L
shape
from
that
left.
Green
Valley
there
all
the
way
up
there
are.
There
are
state
land
there
that
will
be
swapped
with
city
land
in
the
coming
months,
we're
working
through
the
legal
process,
the
public
process.
We
have
to
go
to
the
Department
of
Finance
to
present
the
land
plan.
F
We
have
to
go
to
the
legislative
finance
committee
to
present
this
plan,
and
then
we
also
have
to
get
to
the
legislature
and
it's
coming
up
to
this
winter
session.
That's
coming
so
Miss
Salazar
missile,
Oxford
and
Mr
Lees
will
be
working
through
that
Land
Development
plan
with
the
person's
name
is
Anna
Silva.
She
works
for
the
state
GSD,
so
we're
working
through
that
spot.
We
don't
have
a
slide
that
shows
the
city
land
that
we
are
swapping,
but
they
are
very
aware
of
the
land
we're
doing
so.
F
Because
we've
been
working
for
a
couple
years
to
get
this
land
and
they
finally
agreed
that
they're
going
to
allow
us
to
swap
off
the
land
I
want
to
add
the
conspiracy
of
that
there
is
some.
There
is
some
federal
land
there
that
we're
still
in
negotiation
with.
So
we
uncovered
that
the
forest
service
is
not
the
only
federal
government
owner
in
that
land.
F
It's
also
the
park
service
and
the
forest
service
seems
to
be
eager
to
swap
the
land,
but
the
park
service
is
not
yet
so
we're
working
through
what
needs
to
happen.
So
in
that
plan
there
you
will
see
a
walkway
on
the
next
one
up
right
there.
We
will
see
a
access
way
we're
trying
to
get
a
right-of-way
to
connect
the
park
to
our
our
Parcels.
So
that's
part
of
the
negotiation
process
we're
working
through,
but
first
and
foremost,
we're
working
through
the
landslope
with
the
state.
F
Yeah
Madam
chair,
Council
Garcia,
so
the
city,
land
and
Miss
Garcia
might
miss.
Salazar
might
be
able
to
help
me
further,
but
so
we
have
land
on
Camina
and
Toronto
by
the
police.
Enforcement
Academy,
a
police
academy
that
whole
parcel
there,
both
the
academy
building
and
all
of
their
roadway
test
drive
Place.
That
land
is
there.
We
also
have
land.
B
E
Okay,
that
was
a
follow-up
question.
Is
it
in
regards
to
value
because
they
do
feed
the
South
Side
property,
but
much
more
valuable
than
this
when
you
clarified
that
for
me?
So
thank
you,
director,
Brown
I,
guess
my
next
question
and
it's
more
of
a
concern
than
a
question
in
regards
that
we're,
including
Franklin
miles
Park
as
Green
Space,
where
it
never
was
part
of
Midtown
property.
It
was
never
part
of
the
college
campus
and
so
now
we're
trying
to
appease
the
request
of
open
space
with
already
existing
open
space
and
I.
E
Think
the
requests
from
community
members
was
to
develop
open
space
on
the
property,
not
say
there
is
already
existing
space
and
we're
just
going
to
connect
it,
which
it
it
is
a
bit
disappointing
to
me.
I
think
you
know
the
when
we
look
at
the
the
other
open
space.
That's
in
front
of
the
now
existing
LaFarge
library
and
former
Tina
grego
pool
same
thing,
open
space
that
was
already
existing,
we're
not
developing
anything
so
we're
not
adding
value
in
the
sense
of
open
space
and
green
space,
which
the
community
has
asked
for
I.
E
Think
they're
asking
for
that
space
within
the
complex
of
Midtown
as
it
gets
redeveloped
instead
we're
pushing
them
off
to
our
already
existing
space.
So
just
this
very
disappointed
we're
going
in
that
direction.
G
If
I
can
clarify
so
we're
using
the
open
space
requirements
that
are
established
within
the
link,
so
the
link
again
has
been
the
basis
of
the
entire
plan
and
we've
added
more
beyond
that,
because
of
the
plaza
and
because
of
all
the
rec,
it
will
be
both
combination,
recreational
and
green
infrastructure
space.
The
miles
Park
is
not
part
of
that
population.
What
we're
proposing
is
that,
why
not
connect
it?
G
It's
a
great
space
and
probably
doesn't
get
utilized
as
much
as
it
should
or
could,
and
if
we
begin
thinking
about
these
potential
events
or
other
things
that
can
happen
between
Midtown
interior
site
to
this
existing
park,
that's
a
great
thing,
but
it's
not
being
included
as
part
of
these.
So
we're
not
trying
to
confuse
people.
We
were
just
trying
to
sort
of
say
like
wow.
This
is
amazing.
We
can
create
a
connection.
Okay,.
E
There
currently
is
only
two
access
points
to
the
property
that
could
potentially
be
a
third
access
point,
and
so,
if
I
don't
really
see
on
this
map,
that
kind
of,
as
is
that,
what
that
top
white
line
is
a
road
kind
of
through
or
it
looks
like
a
road
I
know
Lee
kind
of
pointed
a
pathway,
but
are
there?
Is
there
a
road
that
goes
from
the
Midtown
campus
to
frankly
miles,
or
is
that
just
a
pathway.
B
On
the
master
plan,
so
the
master
plan
itself-
you
really
can't
go
very
deep
into
and
that
this
depiction
is
a
rough
depiction.
You'll
will
be
entering
our
application,
I
believe
on
Monday
and
after
that
it
will
go
through
the
process
and
so
you'll
see
the
complete
master
plan,
which
has
all
this
information
included
in
it.
But
we
cannot
present
it
to.
E
B
You're,
a
final
as
the
governing
body
you'll
be
a
final
adjudicator
on
the
determination
of
whether
you're
accepting
the
master
plan
or
not
so
technically,
we
sit
in
the
applicant
situation.
Not
in
the
city
is
very
strange
so
because
of
that
process
we
don't
want
to
be
presenting
a
master
plan
that
hasn't
been
entered
as
an
application
gone
to
Planning
Commission
and
brought
to
you
in
an
appropriate
manner.
F
Claire
manager,
Council
Garcia,
it's
it's
an
odd
space,
we're
in
because
we're
both
a
developer
and
we're
also
the
landowner,
and
normally
you
would
as
a
developer.
You
would
not
get
any
of
this
information
until
it
came
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
application
was
in
and
then
you
as
a
judge
would
then
get
to
approve
the
plan
once
the
Planning
Commission
reviews
it,
but
because
we're
also
the
landowner.
F
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
the
public
understands
the
progress
that's
happening,
so
we
have
to
kind
of
be
at
a
at
a
thousand
foot
view
until
we
get
to
that
point,
because
we
don't
want
to
I
guess
derail
the
process
of
you
as
a
judge,
ultimately
for
a
master
plan,
so
we're
in
this
Art
Space,
where
we're
both
a
developer
and
a
landowner
and
we've
actually
just
over
the
last
couple
weeks
separated
our
teams
where
we
have
a
developer
team
and
we
have
a
land
use,
a
team
that
they're
separated
out
so
we're
now
in
that
space.
F
E
Okay:
okay,
thank
you
for
helping
to
clarify,
but
I
think
with
them.
Last
significant
project
such
as
this,
which
was
the
railyard
project,
their
master
plan
was
worked
on
by
the
public,
whereas
we're
taking
some
input
but
we're
doing
it
all
ourselves,
which
is
not
the
same
process
and
I.
Think
what
concerns
me
with
the
process
we're
going
through
now
is
that
we
could
be
so
far
down
the
road
where
folks
might
put
forth
the
argument.
E
E
That
is
what
what
kind
of
at
least
from
the
feedback
I've
heard
in
regards
to
what
is
going
on
there,
we've
all
been
given
the
kind
of
feedback
we're
going
to
see
housing,
we're
going
to
see
some
economic
industry,
whether
it
be
business,
nonprofit,
Etc,
potentially
city
services
there
and
then
Green,
Space
I,
think
the
lack
of
details
is
what's
frustrating
folks
and
we're
getting
a
little
more
here
with
this
map,
but
to
hear
we've
got
to
introduce
formally
to
get
that
information
when,
ultimately,
this
this
property
is
the
taxpayers
property.
It's
this.
E
It's
the
citizens
and
residents
of
Santa
fe's
property,
and
they
should
have
a
say
before
application
is
submitted
and
I
think
that
is
where
I
think
this
process
is
a
bit
different
than
what's
kind
of
been
posted
in
the
past
and
and
I
think
that's
where
some
of
our
residents
are
really
having
a
tough
time
and
really
let
me
speak
to
it
really
kind
of
learning
the
process.
F
Manager,
Council
Garcia,
I,
appreciate
your
concern
and
I
want
to
say
this
slide
says
that
we've
had
almost
four
different
engagement
opportunities
for
the
whole
public
to
understand.
We've
had
progress
reports,
we've
had
engagements,
we've
had
public
hearings,
we're
going
to
do
more
stipend,
so
we
have
had
a
lot
of
public
input
from
2018
to
present,
and
so,
if
we,
if
we
don't
take
the
public
information,
we've
received
so
far
we're
never
going
to
develop
this
property.
So
I
understand
that
there
are
folks
who
say:
I
don't
understand.
F
What's
going
on,
we
are
trying
our
best
to
communicate
out.
There
is
all
this
information
that's
been
gathered
so
to
Daniel's
point
about
a
community
development
plan
that
is
based
upon
the
culmination
of
all
of
those
engagement
opportunities
we've
had
since
2018.,
so
we're
trying
to
get
to
the
point
where
one
we
owe
debt
and
two
we're
trying
to
develop
the
land.
So
at
some
point
we
have
to
take
the
feedback
we've
received
and
turn
it
into
action
and
that's
kind
of
where
we
are
right
now.
F
So
if
you
have
constituents
or
people
who
are
concerned
that
they
they
don't
know
where
we
are
in
the
process,
I
invite
them
to
call
me
or
Daniel
or.
H
F
Us
an
email
we're
more
than
happy
to
maybe
do
a
town
hall
with
them
or
a
webinar,
because
we
are
we're
at
the
point
where
it's
my
responsibility
to
put
this
development
action
into
place,
and
we
are
now
putting
more
budget
together
for
this
stipend
program,
so
we're
at
that
fourth
level
of
getting
more
feedback
so
that
we
can
make
sure
that
every
citizen
constituent
has
a
say
in
where
we
are
so
that's
kind
of
where
we
are,
but
to
your
point
about
the
the
master
plan,
and
it's
not
very
clear.
F
It's
only
because
they're
trying
to
protect
the
legal
process
of
you
policy
makers
that
I
don't
want
to
get
to
a
place
where
someone
in
the
public
is
Council.
Garcia
has
seen
this
whole
plan
and
he
could
prejudge
it
now
and
so,
as
a
private
developer.
You
would
not
so
we're
we're
walking
this
very
thin
line,
silk
line
to
say:
here's
our
progress,
here's!
What
you've
given
us
to
move
forward
as
a
resolution
here
are
all
the
public
engagements
we've
done
we're
now
at
a
feedback
stage.
F
Here
are
the
two
plans
that
merge
together
to
the
point
where
we
will
submit
our
application.
We
will
get
to
the
planning
committee,
that's
another
place
where
the
public
can
completely
have
their
feedback
feedback.
So
that's
the
fifth
spot
they'll
have
and
once
that's
done,
then
we
go
through
the
committee
review
process,
so
Finance
edac,
quality
of
life,
Public
public
works
because
of
infrastructure
and
then
the
governing
body.
So
we
have
five
more
occasions
where
we
still
will
have
an
opportunity
to
get
public
feedback
or
folks
who
were
asking.
Where
are
we
in
the
process?
F
So
we
can
get
it
done,
but
we
would
love
to
keep
the
movement
moving
because
we
do
see,
we
have
a
housing
deficit
right,
we're
trying
to
pay
back
our
debt
and
we're
also
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
are
bringing
some
return
community
and
return
on
investment
in
the
money
that
we're
spending
to
put
the
infrastructure
together
and
get
a
Redevelopment.
So
hopefully
that
answers
your
question
from
where
we
are
standpoint.
So
it.
E
Is
director
brown
but
I
guess
my
question
is
what
makes
the
process
so
much
different
between
this
and
the
rarely
hardcore?
That
was
a
completely
open
process,
completely
open
master
plan,
and
this
one
is
not
following
that
I
mean
I.
Don't
has
there
been
Law
changes
policy
changes,
because
why
was
that
allowed
for
a
master
plan
to
be
developed
publicly?
E
Nothing
prevented
counselors
from
having
that
knowledge
versus
now,
where
a
master
plan
can't
be
presented
to
the
stakeholders,
which
are
the
citizens.
I
I
would
argue
if
I
was
not
in
the
capacity
of
a
counselor
I,
as
a
taxpayer
have
a
right
to
say
in
that
property
and
I
want
to
understand
what
that
what
the
master
plan
is,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
understand,
what's
so
different
in
the
process
legally.
That
prohibits
us
from
presenting
that
master
plan
which
didn't
prevent
it
in
the
past.
G
I
I
do
want
to
just
sort
of
say
what
we're
doing
is
actually
very
regulated
and
and
on
one
level
and
then
on
another
level.
You
know
we
went
through
the
early
neighborhood
notification
process
on
July
14th
and
we
had
I,
don't
know
how
many
questions
that
are
now
posted
on
the
website
in
Spanish
and
English
many
many.
G
It
took
us
many
much
time
to
answer
and
be
responsive
to
each
one
of
them,
and
we
have
from
now
I
mean
since
July
14th
and
now
the
master
plan
and
the
community
gentleman
posted
the
public
has
access
to
them.
We
have
all
through
August
September,
October
November
is
when
it
comes
back
to
you.
So
there's
still
a
lot
of
time.
In
the
reason
we
created
the
stipend
program
is
so
that
we
are
opening
it
up
like
tell
us
what
you
want
to
know.
How
do
you
want
us?
G
How
do
you
want
to
know
it?
What
can
we
do
to
make
it
accessible?
So
there's
actually
a
lot
of
time
between
now
and
then
I.
Don't
know
how
the
Rail
Yards
and
was
done,
but
this
was
a
very
different
process
that
we
took
I
mean
particularly
even
Partners
project.
So
there's
been
a
lot
of
dialogue
and
we're
trying
to
capture
it.
G
A
I'm
going
to
ask
who
was
part
of
the
rail
yard
process
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
rail
yard
process
looks
like
in
terms
of
the
approvals.
So
while
there
has
been
this
real
public
component,
I
think
that
it
would
be
crucial
of
us
to
maybe
talk
to
somebody
who
watched
The,
Rail,
Yard
approval
process
and
how
that
moved
through
with
the
governing
body.
A
Because
what
I'm
hearing
right
now
is
that
I
don't
believe
that
unless,
unless
somebody
speaks
you
know,
let
me
know
if
you,
if
anybody
has
knowledge
of
what
the
land
use
approval
process
looked
like
and
at
what
point.
The
governing
body
moved
into
the
quasi-judicial
role
with
rail
yard,
and
if
not,
we
will
work
on
getting
that
answer
from
somebody
who
was
around
and
who
did
have
that
experience.
E
I
Chair
one
one
thing:
I
might
suggest
again:
I,
like
your
question
like:
let's
ask
a
person
who's
actually
here,
but
a
difference
with
the
rail
yard.
Corporation
was
that
the
rail
yard
Corporation
as
a
non-profit
entity
separate
from
the
city
was
set
up
to
assist
the
city
with
with
that
whole
process
in
the
public
and
the
liaison
with
the
public.
So
it
was.
It
was
different
because
we
knew
the
ownership
model
was
different
at
that
time
that
the
city
was
going
to
retain
ownership
of
the
land.
I
So
it's
it's
a
very
different
kind
of
process,
and
because
we
don't
have
that
external
Master,
developer
or
development
entity,
and-
and
we
know
that
most
likely
most
of
the
land
will
be
sold.
It's
it's
just
a
very
it's
a
different
process,
but
I
think
you
know.
I
do
think
it'd
be
interesting
to
ask
that
question
to
someone
who
actually
I
think
I
was
at
the
city,
maybe
on
the
tail
end
of
that,
but.
E
E
Actually
have
my
next
question
probably
is
for
you,
we,
it
Mr
Hernandez
earlier
said
that
we'd
love
to
the
affordable
housing
to
about
30
percent.
So
does
that
mean
that
we
would
only
hit
that
threshold
if
everybody
doesn't
opt
out
of
the
in
lieu
of
so?
Could
that
then
go
down.
I
Imagine
that
there
will
be
some
flexibility
where
some
of
the
tracks
will
be
developed
at
a
much
higher
percentage.
We
know
that
some
of
them
will
be
reserved
for
100
affordability,
so
we
we
there
may
be
a
a
range
of
affordability
with
the
market
tracks
that
are
developed
by
market
rate
developers,
but
that's
very
consistent
with
how
tier
content
has
been
developed.
There's
a
goal
of
an
overall
goal
for
40,
but
some
tracks
are
they
don't
even
hit
20?
You
know,
but
others
are
100.
I
I
Okay,
Madam,
chair,
councilor,
Garcia
I
think
it's
actually
a
little
bit
early
to
tell
because
we,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
leveraging
the
affordability
requirement
to
maximize
the
community
benefit.
So
if
we
have
a
developer,
who
wants
to
do
a
really
great
project
that
meets
other
community
benefit
goals
in
lieu
of
the
affordability
on
that
site?
We
would
leverage
some
other
contribution
and
then
we
would
ensure
that
the
any
fees
that
were
collected
were
used
to
the
benefit
of
the
site
or
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
Okay,.
E
I
E
I
Madam,
chair,
councilor,
Garcia
I,
wouldn't
say
that
at
all
because
it's
a
it's
very
closely
regulated
and
tied
to
the
priorities
in
the
community
development
plan.
The
goal
is
30
30.
We
can't
promise
30
percent
before
we
know
what
the
Market's
going
to
Bear,
but
we
also
don't
know
what
community
benefit
we
want
to
leverage
yet.
E
Well
and
I
think
thank
you
for
director,
but
I
think
we
could
promise
that
in
the
sense.
If-
and
this
is
where
I've
asked
for
guidance
from
our
legal
office
which
still
haven't
received
yet
in
regards
to
could
the
city
given
that
it
is
Our
Land
canceled
the
in-lua
fee
option
for
this
particular
property.
That
way
we
can
Ensure
that
affordable
housing
is
built
and
and
developers
don't
take
the
emuity
route,
because
I
think
we've
heard
loud
and
clear
since
We've
begun
this
process.
E
That
should
be
the
the
Baseline
as
I
spoke,
and
when
we
got
the
update
during
our
governing
body
meeting,
we
should
be
striving
to
promote
to
provide
as
much
affordable
housing
opportunities
as
possible,
and
if
we
have
the
in
lieu
of
fee
option
for
this
particular
property,
I
don't
see
us
hitting
that
Mark
I
only
see
30
percent
as
the
ceiling
and
going
down
from
there.
Unfortunately,
my
last
question
is
around
the.
I
Chair
counselor
Garcia
I
wanted
to
also
point
out
that,
because
we
will
be
disposing
of
the
land
through
rfps,
that
gives
us
a
huge
amount
of
Leverage
as
well.
So
if
we
right
now,
the
afford
the
level
of
affordability
is,
is
contained,
first
of
all,
within
our
regulation
for
the
San
Francisco
program,
but
also
from
the
link
overlay
just
from
the
link
overlay
regulation.
E
I
completely
understand
director,
lad
and
I
think
the
Mandate
is
not
what
I
would
advocate
for
what
I
would
advocate
for
is
the
elimination
of
the
being
lieu
of
auction
I
think
that
shouldn't
be
an
option.
As
for
this
particular
property,
we
we
offer
up
that
option,
and
you
see
how
many
folks,
as
they're
developing
housing
around
our
city,
how
many
folks
are
opting
out
of
it
I
understand
that
they're
paying
into
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund,
but.
E
That's
not
what
was
asked
for
by
the
residents
of
Santa
Fe
to
go
into
this
site,
so
I
appreciate
that,
but
with
that
being
said,
I'd
definitely
as
we
move
forward
director
Brown.
If
we
can
get
guidance
for
our
meeting
next
week.
The
update
in
regards
to
do
we
have
the
legal
capability
to
eliminate
the
fee
and
Luan
option
for
this
property,
given
that
it
is
our
property
I
understand
that
when
other
at
other
personal,
private
properties,
we
don't
have
that
option.
E
E
G
We're
officially
trying
to
get
marked
as
a
metropolitan
Redevelopment
area,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
it's
one
of
the
again
you've
talked
about
tools
in
the
toolbox,
any
Redevelopment
incentive
program
that's
available
through
the
state,
federal
government
or
locally.
We
want
to
tap,
and
then
we
think
that
the
MRA
can
do
that.
We
hope
that
you
know
elected
officials
and
people
who
in
the
office
can
help
us
explain
what
blight
means
in
the
current
environment,
meaning
it's
not
light
in
an
old
sort
of
Slum
clearance.
G
Sort
of
program
light
is
really
when
you
have
infrastructure,
that's
not
supporting
the
type
of
development
you
want
to
see
in
the
neighborhood.
The
campus
does
not
have
the
type
of
infrastructure.
Light
also
means
that
Parcels
that
are
underdeveloped
well
campus
has
underdeveloped
Parcels.
So
that's
why
we
really
are.
D
G
E
E
E
I
know
this
has
been
a
long
process.
I
completely
agree
with
you
director,
Brown
that
we
need
to
get
moving,
but
there
are
some
things
that
I
guess
that
are
being
different.
Now
that
have
been
done
differently
in
the
past
and
the
clarification
of
why
has
been
constantly
asked
if
we
can
get
that
in
regards
to
particularly
how
this
process
is
being
conducted
differently
than
we've
done
it
in
the
past.
That
would
be
great,
but
again,
thank
you
all
for
the
information
I
appreciate
it.
No
other
questions.
Madam
chair.
C
Councilman
veteran,
thank
you
for
the
president
presentation.
I
I
particularly
want
to
say
thanks
to
the
enn
responses.
They
were
helpful
to
hear
well,
because
I
didn't
get
to
be
at
the
presentation
fully,
so
I
didn't
get
to
see
what
people
were
asking
and
so
I
think
taking
the
time
to
respond
to
those
was
helpful
for
me
and
hopefully
for
the
public
they're
a
bit
hard
to
find
just
so.
You
know
on
the
website.
C
You
have
to
go
through
a
bottom
page
and
through
the
menu
and
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
an
ability
to
kind
of
tweak
our
website
I
could
talk
to
you
offline
about
this,
because
I
think
there's
ways
that
you
could
consolidate
some
sections
and
then
actually
go
have
areas
where
people
can
go
directly
to
where
they
want
to
go
to
find
a
certain
bit
of
information.
So
we
could
talk
offline
about
that,
but
I
think
in
general
it
was
very
helpful
and
it
was
very
clear.
C
People
were
all
about
trying
to
understand
the
affordability
Concepts
and
also
why
30
percent
and
what
is
100
look
like,
and
then
you
know,
p
and
Liu
have
did
come
up
and
I
think
it's
I
think
it
is
important
and
you've
already
know
how
you
feel
about
when
it.
Whenever
we
have
control
over
our
own
land,
we
should
prioritize
as
much
as
possible
to
get
units
and
when
I
say
units,
it's
it's
not
because
we
don't
like
being
lieu
of
I,
think
it's
helped
been
helpful
for
us.
C
We've
seen
it
in
CDC
when,
when
we
utilize
those
grants
for
the
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
they're
important,
but
now
as
we're
kind
of
moving
forward.
With
this
crisis
situation,
we
don't
have
units
we
don't
have
units
and
the
ones
that
we
used
to
have
their
units
are
not
necessarily
affordable,
not
through
the
city
program,
but
just
how
things
are
changing
rents
going
up,
and
we
don't
have
control
over
that,
because
we
can't
set
Rent
restrictions
or
rent
ceilings.
So
I
can
understand
why
the
public
is
like.
C
Please
give
us
some
more
units
and
I
know
we're
trying
to
do
this
in
this
model.
I
think
when
we
put
out
the
RFP,
that's
going
to
be
important,
how
we
frame
it
because
it
does
put
people
to
another
a
higher
standard.
It
takes
more
work.
Yes,
not
not.
Everybody
can
get
the
federal,
I
blink
and
then
the
federal,
low-income
tax
credits
and
so
I
I
realize
there's
these
challenges
that
we're
working
with.
C
But
it
is
pretty
clear
that
the
public
is
concerned
about
our
housing
crisis,
and
so
that
was
the
biggest
thing
that
came
up
and
also
what
came
up
that
I
wanted
to
ask
about
in
the
presentation.
There's
a
section
about
neighborhoods
to
stabilization
and
there's
three
points
that
was
that
were
placed
on
the
slide
about
anti-displacement
neighborhood,
stabilization
plan
development
without
displacement,
overlay
district
and
all
of
these
things,
I'm
I'm
highly
interested
in
I've.
We've
been
talking
about
it.
C
G
Yeah,
so
these
I
think
the
slide
is
really
is
condensed
to
a
further
explanation
that
can
be
developed
on
plan
itself.
But
what
we
heard
was
I
wanted
to
write
just
anti-displacement
just
to
sort
of
let
the
public
know
that
we
heard
that
loud
and
clear,
but
I
think
it's.
The
second
probably
bullet
point
that
the
need
for
his
neighborhood
stabilization
plan,
because
I
think
at
the
very
beginning
there
was
this
question
about.
Are
you
going
to
plan
for
just
the
anti-displacement
or
there
are
you
going
to
focus
on
Midtown?
G
It
felt
like
we
needed
to
focus
on
midterms
was
such
a
complex
thing
and
also
because
of
the
rough
start
we
got
in
the
engagement
process.
How
might
we
think
about
creating
a
neighborhood
stabilization
plan?
That's
much
more
focused
and
and
working
directly
with
Community
organizations
to
create
that
plan.
So
the
third
bullet
point
was
taken
from
a
document,
a
report
that
policy
link
and
chain
Breakers
and
the
other.
G
It
provoked
something
in
me
like
maybe
something
here,
so
it
was
what
it
was.
What
I
thought
that
another
question
that
they
might
want
to
ask
during
their
planning
process
like
is
this
work
for
us?
How
might
it
be
actualized,
so
I
don't
have
answers
to
all
of
it,
but
it
discusses
a
little
bit
more
in
the
female
plan.
Yeah.
C
I
wanna,
I
guess
I
wanna
know
how
how
we
plan
to
incorporate
those
because
they're
yeah
I
don't
want
to
put
them
in
a
presentation
because
they're
buzzwords,
we
did
work
on
them.
There's
Community
groups
working
on
this
and
to
operationalize.
It
is
important
for
me
to
understand
and
I'd
like
us
to
to
dig
in
more
I
guess
to
try
to
figure
out
like
how
does
that
fit
into
the
whole
RFP
process.
C
Then
I
think
about
length.
I
was
there
for
link
and
being
I,
was
part
of
that
process
and
I
think
about
that
provision
that
I
added,
so
that
maybe
Alex
can
remind
me
we
we
put
in
language
that
would
support
the
neighborhoods
that
are
most
impacted.
C
Can
you
explain
that
a
little
bit
more
Alex,
because
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
that's
going
to
be
operationalized,
because
we
haven't
seen
it
yet
in
action
and
we
put
it
in
as
a
provision
I
thought
it.
You
know
we
thought
we
could
make
it
work.
But
can
you
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that
because
it
kind
of
directly
if
it
actually
directly
connects
to
the
neighborhood
stabilization
piece.
I
That's
correct
Madam,
chair
Council.
We
wrote
in
that
any
fees
that
were
collected
for
multi-family
market
rate
multi-family
rental
as
a
Redevelopment
project
along
that
Corridor
would
be
used
within
a
defined
boundary
of
the
corridor.
So
it
captures
pretty
much
all
of
the
surrounding
neighborhoods,
as
well
as
the
Midtown
campus.
C
As
a
way,
wasn't
it
more
like
in
the
form
of
impact
fees?
We
talked
about
different
ways.
You
know
part
of
it
was
like
economic
stability.
Part
of
it
was
housing
stability
and
we
haven't
seen
it
like.
Actually,
in
being,
we
haven't
seen
it
being
utilized
mostly
because
we
haven't
seen
the
kind
of
Redevelopment
we
were
thinking.
That
link
would
would
offer,
but
Madam.
I
Chair
Council,
real,
that's
correct.
We
haven't
seen
it
yet
because
we
haven't
seen
anything
yet
and
I.
I
will
look
up
that
issue
of
the
capital
impact
fees.
Any
of
the
fees
in
lieu
of
bore
under
the
Santa
Fe
House
program
were
to
be
redirected
in
those
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
I.
Remember
the
conversation
about
the
impact
fees
and
I
feel
like
they
are,
but
I
would
want
to
look
at
it
to
confirm,
because.
C
So
with
that
I
think
we
should
think
about
what
that's
going
to
look
like
for
the
campus,
because
that
provision
will
actually
should
be
well
in
theory.
The
way
we're
thinking
about
it
should
be
helpful
in
the
neighborhood
favorite
neighborhood
stabilization
aspect.
So
if
we
can
maybe
figure
that
out
talk
about
that
more
in
depth
later,
because
I
want
to
try
to
figure
out
how
that's
going
to
how
that
could
potentially
help
us
in
achieving
neighborhood
stabilization.
G
D
G
It
was
like
this
give
and
taken
that
we
thought
well,
rather
than
dictating
it
and
being
extremely
prescriptive
that
it
that
we
would
acknowledge
it
in
the
community
development
plan
that
rfps
could
potentially
be
more
restrictive
on
certain
dispositions.
Others
less.
So
we
could
write
an
RFP
that
says
absolutely
no!
No
fees
allowed
on
this
property,
the
next
one
we
might
want
to
like.
Well,
we
maybe
want
to
contribute
the
Housing
Trust
Fund,
because
we
want
to
see
some
units
on
an
existing
adjacent
Properties
or
in
the
adjacent
neighborhoods.
G
C
Thank
you.
The
other
questions
I
had,
let's
see.
C
Process
wise
I
was
trying
to
understand
in
terms
of
what
we
think
about
arts
and
culture
or
the
Hub
Santa
Fe.
The
Santa
Fe
art
institute
is
currently
is
leasing
space,
so
would
they
need
to
formally
apply
to
continue
utilizing
that
space
or.
G
No,
they
have
a
99-year
lease.
That's
basically
something's
like
a
dollar
a
year;
okay,
so
they
yeah
they'll,
be
there
I.
C
Can't
remember
how
it
was
structured,
so
yeah,
but
they
couldn't,
they
could
incorporate
other
partners
right
and
they
probably
should
because
it's
a
big
property,
and
it
does
also
need
some
Redevelopment
aspects
to
it.
In
terms
of
governance
structure,
we
keep
talking
about
the
Metropolitan
review,
Development
Area
possibilities.
Are
there
other
options
that
can
be
applied
to
the
campus
in
different
parts,
or
does
it
all
have
to
fall
under
one
governance
structure
like?
G
I
mean,
like
I,
was
saying
earlier,
the
more
development
tools
that
we
have
at
our
disposal,
the
better
so
we're
you
know
by
establishing
the
MRA
we
at
least
established
the
kind
of
the
the
infrastructure,
if
you
will
for
creating
different
types
of
development
tools,
whether
it's
tips
cdes
in
the
future
Community
Development
Enterprises,
which
collect
money
to
be
able
to
reinvest
in
projects
but
anyway
different
types
of
entities
that
could
sit
within
the
MRA
as
it
moves
forward.
So.
C
Is
the
MRA
like
the
umbrella
piece
and
then
any
other
any
other
models
that
could
be
used
all
underneath
that
umbrella,
okay,
curious
about
the
community,
stipends
I
know
you
that
was
just
recently
launched.
C
G
F
I
E
F
Director
lad
and
I,
and
one
of
her
staff
Mr
Hill,
have
been
looking
at
proposals.
I
think
we
have
three
now,
and
one
of
them
is
large,
so
we're
going
to
break
it
up
into
little
Parts
because
they
have
so
many
crazy,
great
ideas.
But
there
are
three
now
that
are
that
we
have
I.
Think
there's
three.
So
there's
three
that
we've
looked
at
so
far.
C
D
F
C
F
F
Technically,
yes,
but
we're
building
access
points,
so
we
can
one
of
the
things
that
I
can
share.
That
I
think
is
something
we're
hoping
we
can
keep
the
discussion
going.
Is
that
that
right
hand
little
green
space
there?
The
public
school
system
owns
that
and
we're
hoping
to
be
able
to
work
with
them
to
build
affordable
housing
there.
So
the
HEC
will
still
be
a
part
of
the
whole
campus
and,
as
we
think
about
Innovation
and
Entrepreneurship,
they
are
very
connected
and
you'll
see.
F
That's
why
there's
lots
of
connectivity
all
over
the
place
there
so
that
we
build
a
walkable
location
and
we
have
a
mixed
use.
That's
there,
so
we
don't
want
to
make
them
an
island,
but
right
now,
they're,
they're,
separate
land
and
separate
owner.
C
Yeah,
okay
and
then.
C
I
think
that's
it
I
I
just
want
to.
Maybe
I
can
talk
to
you
after
about
the
website,
just
to
make
it
easier
to
navigate
because
I
couldn't
find
the
en
notes.
It
took
me
a
while
I
went
different
routes
so,
but
that's
one
of
many
things
that
I
was
like.
Oh
look
at
this:
where
did
this
come
from?
I
didn't
know
this
was
on
here,
so
yeah.
We
could
talk
about
that
if
it's
possible
to
make
some
adjustments
to
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
D
Jose
Garcia,
hey
Madam,
chair
and
I'll
make
it
kind
of
quick,
because
we've
already
been
on
the
topic
for
quite
some
time.
Most
of
the
questions
I
have
were
asked
by
my
colleagues.
At
the
same
time,
we
know
that
we
at
what
point
does
do
we
perceive
a
break
even
for
this,
because
I
mean
we
know
what
it's
costing
us.
We
know
that
we're
in
a
deficit
at
this
point,
but
how
long
does
it
take
us
to
get
to
the
point
where
we're
not
paying
out
money?
D
We're
I
know
we're
not
in
the
business
of
really
making
money
but
at
the
same
time
I
think
it
being
an
asset
to
the
city
and
obviously
also
being
a
an
area
that
can
be
utilized
and
then
that's
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
here.
I
think
so
you
know
with
that.
Being
you
know
with
all
the
costs
and
everything
up
to
this
point.
You
know
where
do
we?
Where
do
we
start
seeing
solvency
with
this.
G
So,
rather
than
me
getting
cheaper
into
the
details
of
that,
the
the
land
economics
part
of
the
team
is
going
to
be
starting
to
make
presentations
in
the
finance
committee.
I
think
that
they
have
backed
our
three
presentations
as
a
series
about
land
economics
that
we're
calling
it
return
on
investment.
G
And
what
that
projected
timeline
looks
like
based
on
land
values
so
again
the
more
that
it's
a
it'll,
be
iterative
and
it'll
be
decisions
that
will
be
ongoing,
but
at
least
we're
going
to
provide
some
base
assumptions
and
they
may
change
conversations.
We've
had
tonight
about
higher
levels.
B
G
Community
Development
lowers
land
value,
the
payback
period
for
an
Roi.
Our
return
investment
looks
different
than
if
you're
like
maximizing
every
land
piece
of
land
on
that
thing.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
discussions
that
can
happen
future,
but
we
did
set
some
baselines
so
rather
than
preempt
that
discussion,
I,
I,
think
they're
gonna
they're,
focusing
on
kind
of
a
series
on
the
street
part
series
of
the
land
and
the
economics
of
the
Redevelopment.
So.
D
I
can
appreciate
that,
but
you
know
and
again
I
I
what
a
difficult
task
to
try
to
please
everybody
and
you're:
it's
almost
an
impossible
task,
but
I
think
that
you're
on
your
way
to
towards
that
with
what
you've
presented
and
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
If.
G
I
made
a
you
know
some
of
these
early
prep,
one
of
the
ways
of
reducing
burden
is
by
disposing
to
some
of
these
existing
buildings
in
these
early
rfps,
so
that
we
get
them
up
our
operating
budgets
because
they
do
cost
money
to
offering
empty
buildings
as
well.
So
that's
one
strategy,
the
other
one
is
the
one
of
the
first
rfps
about
is
the
film
expansion,
and
so
these
will
be.
G
You
know,
one
of
them
at
least
will
be
a
higher
Revenue
generating
Source
than
the
other
two,
but,
and
also
during
those
negotiations,
we'll
be
talking
about
ongoing
revenues
potentially
for
the
city
through
licensing
agreements,
the
production
companies.
So
this
is
important
still
to
come,
but
we're
trying
to
took
away
at
that
burden.
A
A
You
know,
our
processes
is
that's
a
really
exciting
moment
and
I
think
that
we
should
take
a
moment
to
recognize
all
the
work
and
the
hours
that
have
gone
in
from
staff
and
I
really,
and
our
contractors
and
I
really
want
to
thank
everybody.
This
has
it's
obviously
not
done
but
they're,
but
there
really
have
been
so
many
hours
that
have
gone
into
this.
A
All
of
our
community
engagement,
Partners,
the
Midtown
engagement
partners
and
all
the
work
and
time
that
they
put
in
there
really
such
a
such
an
incredible
effort,
and
so
I
think
being
at
this
place.
Right
now
and
I
know
that
there
is
a
a
bit
of
discomfort,
as
the
governing
body
does
start
to
move
into
the
role
that
we
take
on
for
the
approval
of
Land
Development.
A
That
also
does
signal
the
fact
that
we
are
moving
to
a
new
phase,
and
that
is
extremely
exciting,
especially
because
what
I
have
heard
loud
and
clear
from
you
know
my
constituents
in
District
Four,
which
obviously
is
where
Midtown
sits,
is
my
goodness.
When
are
you
going
to
do
something
here
and
so
I
know
that
that
will
be
something
that
they
will
be
excited
to
hear
and
hopefully,
we'll
take
advantage
of
the
opportunities
to
continue
to
weigh
in,
as
we
start
to
move
through
these
public
processes.
A
One
thing
that
I
do
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about,
because
I
do
think
it's
kind
of
this
interesting
component
is
this:
the
land
development
plan,
the
master
plan
and
how
we
balance
both
really
focusing
and
meeting
the
needs
and
desires
of
today,
as
well
as
knowing
that
those
needs
and
desires
made
change,
especially
as
we
look
at
this
development
over
the
course
of
a
decade.
Two.
A
F
A
And-
and
you
know
we
we
frequently
talk
about
this-
you
know,
especially
when
we're
talking
landies.
We
talked
about
this
with
the
general
plan
and
we
sit
there
and
we
say:
oh
my
gosh,
the
general
plan
is
20
years
old
and
we
really
need
to
you
know
be
looking
at
this
and
updating
this,
and
this
no
longer
reflects
where
Santa
Fe
is,
and
so
I
would
like
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we
how
this
process
starts
to
look
up
what
we
set
up
now.
A
My
my
inclination
is
that
this
is
part
of
the
MRA
process,
because
you
know
elected
officials
come
and
go
staff
also
turns
over.
They
don't
necessarily
have
that
political
piece
who,
who
is
it
that
really
starts
to
kind
of
both
drive
this
thing
forward,
as
well
as
recognize
if,
in
15
years,
what
is
left
over
for
development
of
Midtown
is
no
longer
appropriate
for
where
Santa
Fe
is
and
we
have
to
start.
You
know
turning
what
undeveloped
Parcels
there
may
be.
You
know
how
are
we
both
secure
as
well
as
flexible?
D
G
The
the
good-
so
we
approached
this
from
a
perspective
of
creating
a
flex,
a
plan
that
can
be
flexible
to
respond
to
policies
and
Community
goals
into
the
future,
but
we
knew
that
right
now
there
were
clear
expressions
of
objectives
from
the
communities
that
needed
to
be
captured
and
incorporated
into
somehow
this
plan.
So
the
regulatory
land
plan,
I,
don't
think,
will
not
change
for
people.
It's
also
extremely
difficult
to
change
an
ordinance,
a
land
use
ordinance
so.
F
G
Want
to
at
least
establish
what
can
be
built
there
and
what
cannot?
A
steel
mill
cannot
be
built
there,
but
we
knew
that
we
wanted
a
mixed-use
district
and
these
are
the
priority
uses.
That's
regulated
now
that
you
don't
want
that
to
change.
I,
don't
hear
anybody,
thinking
that
that's
questionable,
so
those
things
are
part
of
the
regular
regulated
land
plan.
The
flexibility
in
the
land
plan
is
that
we
didn't
say
at
that
corner
right.
G
There
has
to
be
a
four-story
building
with
a
tower
on
it,
and
it
has
to
have
this
and
this
and
this
and
this
we
can
do
that
as
we
dispose
of
properties
through
the
RFP
and
so
as
as
the
plan
evolves
and
needs
change
and
desires
change.
We
can
begin
being
more
prescriptive
with
each
RFP,
but
we
didn't
want
to
do
that
with
a
master
plan
or
then
we
would
have
to
renegotiate
the
master
master
plan.
Take
it
back
to
Planning,
Commission
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
G
So
we
wanted
to
be
as
flexible
as
possible
to
respond
to
the
market,
Community
goals
and
policy
goals
that
the
city
may
have
the
community
development
plan.
That
can
change
so
that
may
have
a
lifetime
of
seven
years
in
the
governing
body.
At
that
time
may
say:
let's
just
revisit
that
Community
Development
plan.
Do
we
want
to
change
some
of
the
goals
and
priorities
established
at
that
time?
It's
a
lot
easier
to
change
than
an
ordinance
in
the
city,
a.
E
G
A
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that
that
explanation
of
how
that
balance
is
struck,
I
think
that
it
is
definitely
a
challenging
one
in
terms
of
prioritization.
You
know
we
have
kind
of
talked
about
some
of
these
early
start
programs.
A
Is
that
going
to
be
driven
primarily
by
the
community
development
plan?
I
mean
we
know
we
can't
do
everything
at
once,
and
so
how
do
we
start
to
determine
really
the
phasing
of
the
development
of
Midtown.
G
Well,
we
know
that
there's
a
strong
desired
and
we
heard
it
again
tonight
units
affordable
units,
particularly
so
these
early
phases
are
one
just
to
start
getting
these
buildings
back
working
so
that
they
get
off
of
our
books
and
they
they
don't
have
the
operating
expenses
related
to
them,
and
we
see
them.
Also,
that's
one
side,
that's
the
economic
side.
On
the
other
side,
it
begins
to
create
activity
at
the
site
and
and
Market
interest
at
the
site
for
development.
G
That's
in
you
know
that
needs
development
and
they
often
contribute
to
sometimes
you
know,
improving
the
neighborhoods
and
ways
that
not
everyone
should
see
because
they're
great
projects,
all
the
time,
they're
well
designed
they're
well
managed,
but
we
think
that
or
want
to
see,
affordable
housing
Parcels
go
out
in
phase
one
again
to
begin,
stimulating
interest
again,
creating
reasons
why
we
need
the
infrastructure
built
on
the
site
as
well,
so
the
affordable
housing,
at
least
one
of
the
parcels
of
one
of
the
four
Parcels
will
be
in
an
early
phase
as
well,
and
then
we
might
want
to
immediately
get
that
out
with
a
mixed
use,
residential
project
that
will
have
to
comply
with
inclusionary
requirements
but
to
begin
stimulating
other
types
of
development.
A
H
A
Interesting,
you
know
piece
I,
you
know,
I
I've
had
some
type
of
conversations
with
you
about
this
component
of
and
Eric
Ani,
who
is
sitting
in
the
back
I
will
give
him
credit
for
this
phrase
that
I
frequently
use
as
it's
not
just
affordable,
housing,
it's
affordable,
living
and
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
keeping
an
eye
towards
that
as
we
are
looking
at.
The
phasing
of
this
project,
as
the
units
are
we
now
are
crucial,
are
absolutely
crucial.
A
It
is
also
crucial
that
we
are
providing
resources
to
community
members
who
potentially
do
not
have
the
mobility
around
the
city.
Midtown
does
have
a
lot
of
resources
at
their
fingertips,
which
is
you
know,
there's
a
grocery
store
there,
there's
Parks.
You
know
we
really
do
have
that,
but
thinking
about
what
that
interplay
starts
to
look
like
and
and
I
think
that
that'll
be
a
I.
A
Do
not
have
an
answer
right
now,
but
but
an
interesting
balance
for
us
to
continue
to
strike
of
really
making
this
an
affordable
living
area,
not
just
an
affordable
housing
area
for
those
individuals
who
we
hope
to
be
able
to
be
living
there
relatively
soon.
Yes,
in
terms
of
how
long
development
takes
I,
don't
believe,
I
have
any
other
questions
at
the
moment.
A
So
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
the
presentation
again.
Thank
you
for
the
work
and
it
is
really
exciting
to
watch
us
Turn
Turn,
the
Page
and
start
moving
in
the
next
Direction
and
I'm
hopeful
that
some
more
individuals
will
take
advantage
of
those
stipends
for
that
Community
engagement,
especially
those
Midtown
engagement,
Partners,
who
have
already
been
so
incredibly
involved
and
I,
think
that
they
already
have
a
really
good
base
for
for
communication.
A
So
hopefully
we
can
get
more
of
them
to
be
interacting,
especially
over
these
next
couple
months,
while
while
some
of
those
pieces
are
being
finalized
and
I,
look
forward
to
seeing
you
out
future
meetings,.
G
D
A
Yeah,
it's
wonderful,
I,
believe
it's
at
6
p.m.
So
dude
do
you
have
details
on
that.
A
D
D
D
A
F
F
A
Lot
of
a
lot
of
places
to
go
tomorrow
evening,
so
get
out
on
a
Thursday
night,
all
right,
wonderful!
Well,
thank
you!
So
much.
Let
us
move
on
to
our
items
that
will
pull
off
the
consent
agenda.
We
are
going
over
to
item
a.
This
is
a
request
for
approval
of
amendment
number
three
to
the
lease
agreement
between
Garson
Studio
Santa,
Fe
LLC
and
the
City
of
Santa
Fe
for
the
premises
located
at
1600,
St
Michaels,
Drive,
Santa,
Fe,
New
Mexico
allows
lease
B
to
request
several
or
all
holder,
holdover
extensions.
A
We
have
Lee
logs
in
here
to
present
and
Council
and
assistant
training.
Jsls
I
believe
is
here
as
well.
I
saw
her
walk
down
the
stairs
and
councilman
video
outflow
is
yours.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
just
to
follow
up
from
Finance
and
thank
you
Lee
for
providing
those
responses.
It
was
helpful
to
kind
of
see
the
breakdown,
and
then
there
was
a
follow-up
question
that
I
was
also
interested
in
that
counselor
Lindell
posed,
and
if
you
could
explain
how
the
rent
was
over
a
million
with
the
base
rent
of
60
000
per
month,
we
were
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
that
myself.
You
said
that
the
income
that
we
received
from
Garson
right
now
was.
C
One
from
over
over
1
million!
So
if
you
could
just
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
H
Sure,
thank
you.
Excuse
me,
members
of
the
committee
councilorial
one
thing
I
was
careful
to
clarify,
was
that
they
and
and
was
raised
by
several
of
the
counselors,
is
that
they
can
actually
use
less
of
the
space
and
they're
not
paying
for
it.
Then
what
I
wasn't
clear
about
and
should
have
been,
is
that
they
also
have
the
ability
to
effectively
use
any
space
on
the
Midtown
campus.
H
So
when
you
look
at
the
base
rent
excuse
me,
it
describes
certain
specific
buildings
and
so
forth,
but
they
can
spill
over.
You
know
into
the
publishing
Library
into
the
Greer
Garson
theater
they
can
use.
You
know
the
visual
arts
center
grounds,
I,
don't
know
what
they
do
in
the
building
because
of
the
state,
but
you
know
so
they
also
have
the
ability
to
use
a
lot
more
of
the
campus
Than
That,
Base
rent
indicates,
and
that's
the
simple
answer
to
that's
how
they
generate
more
than
60
000
on
some
months.
C
Okay
helps,
but
that's
that's
all
Garson
Studios
income,
it's
not
coming
from
other
sources
of
our
other
tenants,
that's
a
whole
nother,
separate,
okay
and
then
the
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
appraisal,
and
you
had
said.
Appraisals
are
typically
good
for
one
year,
but
the
appraisal
we
didn't
need
a
new
appraisal,
because
this
is
only
maybe
you
could
explain
that
more
you're
talking
about
holdover
terms
being
amended
versus.
What's
the
other
flip.
H
Side
of
that,
the
actual
lease
rate
would
be
so
if
we
were
counselor
if
we
were
amending
the
actual
lease
rate
or
the
base
lease,
you
know
as
we
call
it
in
this
case,
we
would
probably
order
up
an
appraisal.
H
In
this
case,
we
were
really
only
negotiating
the
ability
for
Garson
to
how
they
could
use
those
for
holdover
extensions,
so
they
already
had
the
four
extensions
possible
and
they
were
just
negotiating
over
their
ability
to
negotiate
with
film
outfits
to
you
know,
take
two
or
three
or
all
four
of
them
at
once,
so
an
appraisal
was
not
ordered
up.
For
that
reason,
okay
and
we
do
I-
do
have
Terry
Lee's
here
who
can
speak
more
on
appraisals
in
general?
If
you
I'm.
C
Okay,
actually
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
understand
is
as
we
move
forward
and
there's
a
potential
partner
that
comes
into
play
and
we're
negotiating
the
use
of
those
spaces,
then
a
new
appraisal
would
come
and
come
into
play
right
that
would
be
required.
C
I,
don't
know
how
to
describe
it.
If
that,
if
they're
selling,
that
I
mean
if
the
I,
maybe
Rich
can
explain
this
because
I
keep
thinking
about
these
potential
partners
that
would
come
in
to
to
run
the
studios.
Would
we
still
own
the
studios
and
then
continue
leasing?
Those
are
we
planning
on
selling
them.
F
Madam,
chair
casabariel,
it's
a
good
question
and
I
may
have
both
Terry
and
Miss.
Salzar
explain
this,
but
the
RFP
will
be
sent
out
to
either
purchase
the
entire
Studio
complex
or
lease
it.
We're
hoping
that
we
get
a
purchase
because
there's
a
lot
more
value
in
purchasing
the
whole
studio
program,
but
that,
but
in
order
for
the
this
disposition
agreement
to
be
done,
another
lease
I'm
going
to
have
another
appraisal
will
have
to
be
done
to
assess
that
value.
F
But
we
are
currently
in
a
lease
that
was
of
negotiated
long
ago,
and
this
is
just
some
of
the
terms
in
the
lease
and
they're
just
asking
to
exercise
those
terms,
but
in
the
RFP
process,
when
we
have
a
a
partner
to
contract,
you
know
the
option
of
lease
or
buy
the.
There
will
be
an
appraisal
process
in
this
diligence.
That
goes
with
the
terms.
C
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
case
I
think
that's
all
I
have
Madam
chair.
Thank
you.
A
Finance
we
keep
doing
Voice
vote
and
I
always
do
a
roll
call
here
and
I'm,
not
sure
which
it
is
but
we'll
find
out
later.
Let's
get
a
roll
call,
because
that's
what
I've
been
doing
and
I
will
ask
Aaron.
A
All
right
moving
on
to
the
next
item,
this
is
item
I.
This
is
a
consideration
of
a
resolution
sponsored
by
mayor
Weber,
counselor,
Lindell,
counselor,
Cassat,
councilwoman,
veteriel,
Council,
Chavez,
counselor,
Michael,
Garcia
and
Council
Romero
Wurst.
It
is
a
resolution
supporting
legislation
in
the
United
States
of
America
and
the
state
of
New
Mexico
to
protect
the
right
to
a
safe
abortion.
Andreas
Salazar
assistant,
City
attorney
is
who
I
have
on
the
docket
to
to
present,
but
I
see
somebody
else
at
the
podium.
A
Is
here
councilor
Lee,
Garcia.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
again
I
understand
the
reasoning
for
this
I.
Don't
support
it,
but
Regional
I
put
off
consent
and
so
I
I.
You
know
one
of
the
the
reasons
and
go
down
to
something
here,
saying
not
sure
why
the
city
has
to
pursue
this.
But
I
know
people
have
the
reasons,
but
so
no
really
good
questions
other
than
the
fact
that
I
just
don't
support
it
and
the
only
way
to
put
it
on
on
foot
from
consent.
So
anybody
wants
to
add.
A
A
E
B
D
A
Thank
you
and
thank
you
Miss
Salazar.
Moving
on
to
our
last
item.
This
is
item
K.
This
is
a
resolution
adopting
the
2024-2028
senior
infrastructure,
Capital
Improvements
plan
I'm.
Sorry,
this
is
a
resolution
sponsored
by
councilor
Travis
and
it
is
a
resolution
adopting
the
2024-2028
senior
infrastructure,
Capital
Improvements
plan
icip
for
the
division
of
Senior
Services,
community
health
and
safety
department,
and
we
have
Anya
Allred
here
to
present
and
I
believe
councilman
video.
He
pulled
this
one
correct.
C
Do
you
do
you
think
you,
madam
chair,
thank
you
Anya
for
being
with
us
and
being
patient
through
this
evening
and
IIT
I
actually
just
wanted
to
get
some
clarification
since
we
haven't
had
icip
for
Senior
Services
in
this
way
and
I
think
it.
It
completely
makes
sense
I'm
in
supportive
of
it
and
I
wanted
to
just
quickly
go
over
as
I
there.
We
go
go
over
the
icip
plan,
the
top
five
or
in
this
case
we
put
top
seven
right
so
I.
C
All
of
these
things
make
complete
sense
to
me.
I
think
we're
they're
needed
they're
long
overdue.
There's
a
lot
of
deferred
maintenance
that
we're
trying
to
catch
up
on
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
to
you
was
trying
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
how
we
came
to
decide
that
we
want
to
pursue
funding
for
a
new
Senior,
Center
and
I.
D
D
So
I
am
unsure
of
that
question.
I
would
have
to
talk
to
Geno
tomorrow
and
then
get
back
with
you
I
think
our
intent
was
when
the
South
Pride
team
Center
was
built
that
we
were
thinking
that
we
would
add
on
to
that
and
do
a
multi-generational
Center.
C
Okay,
I
think
it
would
be
important
for
us
for
us
to
show
the
public
that
we
did
our
research
and
due
diligence
about
why
we
needed
another.
We
need
another
Senior
Center
and
then
also
like,
where
we're
thinking
it
could
possibly
be
and
I
think
that's
part
of
the
planning
part
and
that's
why
we
need
funding.
C
But
when
I
look
at
our
current
centers
and
I
was
figuring
out
what
districts
there
are
we
have
if
we
we
have
five,
that
we
run
correct
and
when
I
look
at
the
districts,
three
of
them
are
in
District
Two
and
there's
one
in
district
one
and
one
in
District
Four,
and
so
obviously
there
isn't
one
in
District
three,
and
so
that
makes
sense
to
me,
but
I'm
also
wondering
like
okay:
where
are
we
seeing
more
of
our
senior
population
living
or
where
we
potentially
would
be
seeing
them
into
the
future?
C
And
you
know
right
now:
we
most
of
the
of
our
younger
population
and
demographics
around
District,
Four
I'm.
Sorry,
three!
So
that's
why
I'm
like?
Okay,
let's
look
at
the
data
and
what
it's
telling
us
so
that
we
know
that
we're
making
an
informed
decision
and
we're
also
looking
at
our
current
facilities,
because
from
what
I've
heard
and
obviously
from
this
icip
list,
it's
very
clear.
C
We
need
upgrades
to
our
current
facilities
and
so
I
think
we
all
are
in
favor
of
that,
but
just
really
looking
at
gaps
in
service
and
what
we're
needing
and
where
in
the
city
and
then
the
other
thing
is
that
our
capacity
as
death
to
be
able
to
run
efficiently
and
effectively
our
senior
centers
I
I
liken
this
to
actually
the
team
Center
I
remember
when
we
were
excited
about
the
funding
and
they
looked
to
Seth
and
they're
like
oh
wow,
we
have
a
new
team
Center
you
all
are
gonna
have
to
rent
it
and
they're
like
yeah.
C
We
don't
know
how
we
don't
know,
but
what
stuff
is
going
to
cover
that?
So
it
makes
me
think
about
Senior
Services
too,
because
we
want
to
do
something
and
do
it
well
and
not
have
a
senior
center.
Where
we're
you
know,
at
half
capacity,
I
mean
right
now,
we're
still
recovering
from
covid,
and
we
don't
have
our
senior
services
functioning
at.
C
I
mean
to
full
capacity
and
I
get
complaints
from
my
constituents
saying
I
want
to
go
to
Senior
Center
I
want
to
go,
not
just
eat
but
be
able
to
utilize
the
services
that
we
used
to,
and
we
can't
so
I'm
just
thinking
about
being
these
things
ahead
of
time,
and
so
that
we
can
cover
our
bases,
and
so
maybe
Gino
can
send
me
info.
I
know
this
is
going
quickly
and
through
the
process
it
will
go
to
the
governing
body.
So
I
think
of
probably
I
mean
depending
maybe
Gino
can
send
me
enough
information.
C
But
maybe
we
need
to
talk
about
this
more
governing
body
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
covering
all
areas
and
then
the
other
question
I
had
there
was
an
item
for
the
Maria
Esther
Gonzalez
Senior
Center
for
for
replacing
the
carpet
and
the
amount
is
10
million
and
I
was
like.
Is
that
a
raw?
Is
that
a
error
or
a
typo?
Because
then
I
looked
at
the
HVAC
requirements
and
we've
seen
in
our
HVAC
requirements
for
other
facilities?
They
are
ex
I
mean
they're,
very
expensive
and
I.
C
C
C
That
makes
a
big
difference.
Yes,
so
we
need
to
adjust
that
and
then
the
other
thing
that
made
me
think
about
carpets,
because
I
mean
look
at
this
carpet.
It's
like
now
that
we're
thinking
about
covid
and
health,
because
carpet
really
makes
sense
anymore.
You
know
even
for
like
the
cleanliness,
for
you
all
to
be
able
to
or
staff
to
be
able
to
clean
it.
C
What
makes
sense
for
our
facilities
carpet
to
me
doesn't-
and
you
know
just
thinking
about-
what's
what's
best
for
you
all
in
terms
of
the
best
route,
so
I
just
want
to
flag
that,
and
maybe
Gino
can
talk
about-
why
carpet
versus
maybe
another
type
of
flooring
that
we
didn't
consider
that
would
be
more
hygienic
and
easier
to
clean
into
the
future
and
maintain
I.
Guess
I,
don't
know
if
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that
I.
C
D
I
have
one
more
comment
to
add,
so
you
know,
and
the
plan
and
design
phase
I
think
that's
where
we
would
start
to.
You
know
reach
out
to
the
public
and
figure
out
if
a
new
Senior
Center
is
what
we
really
you
know.
Is
that
a
necessity?
Is
that
a
need-
and
we
do
have
the
funding
for
that
right
now,
so
we
did
get
awarded
the
368
thousand.
D
We
will
receive
that
contract
anytime,
soon,
probably
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks.
So
we
can
re-evaluate
that
then
so.
C
I
mean
I,
don't
think
that
they'll
say
no
I
think
we
all
want
more
services,
I
guess
I'm,
just
trying
to
think
about
how
we
maintain
what
we
have
in
a
way
that
they're
functioning
fully
fully
functioning.
Thank
you
fully
functioning
centers
instead
of
adding
a
new
one
that
we
can't
maintain
so
I'm
always
thinking
about
this,
like
ahead
of
time,
because
you
know
politically
everyone's.
C
Do
this
and
I'm
thinking
well,
there's
other
things
that
we
need
to
account
for
so
I
agree
all
right.
So
maybe
if
you
could,
if
you
were
Gino,
could
send
me
more
information
about
that
and
then
I'll
chew
on
that
and
see
if
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
about
it
at
the
governing
body
meeting
in
a
couple
weeks.
A
Thank
you
so
much.
Okay.
Moving
on,
we
have
nothing
on
discussion.
We
have
no
executive
session
moving
on
to
Matters
from
staff
Rich
do
we
have
any
matters
today?
Oh.
E
Madam
church
just
got
a
question.
What
kind
of
clarification
given
the
shopping,
cart
ordinance
change?
Yes,
I've
pulled.
Does
that
mean
if
it
gets
reintroduced
it
comes
before
us
or
can
you
I
guess?
Yes,.
A
At
this
moment,
the
sponsors
have
pulled
it
back,
and
so,
if
they
decide
to
move
it
forward,
it
does
depend
on.
Are
they
reintroducing
it
with
a
new
caption?
Is
it
the
same
bill
that
continues
to
move
forward
so
based
on
any
changes
that
they
make?
That
would
determine
the
path.
At
this
point,
my
understanding
is
that
if
they
were
to
decide
to
move
forward
with
it,
as
is,
then
it
would
need
to
come
back
to
quality
of
life,
because
that
is
the
path
that
had
been
established
when
it
was
introduced.
A
Any
other
matters
from
committee
Matters
from
the
chair,
as
Rich
mentioned,
there
is
the
Feria
south
side
that
is
occurring
tomorrow.
A
That
is
go
you
know
again
back
to
my
emails
and
having
I
should
be
pulling
things
up
ahead
of
time.
Let
me
find
Bridget's
email,
but
this
is
essentially
thank.
You
look
at
look
at
look
at
counselor,
Lee
Garcia,
having
everything
at
my
fingertips.
A
Thank
you
so
that
this
will
be
from
four
to
seven
p.m.
At
the
Fraternal
Order
of
Police,
at
3300,
at
Kaya,
Maria,
Luisa,
so
just
another,
exciting
event
related
to
Economic
Development,
which
of
course
is
a
one
of
the
Departments
that
feeds
up
in
the
quality
of
life.
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
highlighted
that
and
with
that
we
are
adjourned
at
6
47
pm.
Thank
you
so
much.
Everyone.