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A
B
A
All
right,
it
is
five
o'clock
and
I'm
going
to
call
to
order
the
august
19th
meeting
of
the
quality
of
life
committee
and
if
jennifer,
are
you
going
to
help
me
out
tonight?
Can
you
call
the
roll.
C
D
A
E
A
Jennifer,
if
you
could
also
call
the
role
on
that
motion.
F
A
Yes,
okay
motion
is
proved
all
right.
Moving
on
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
are
there
items
that
the
committee
would
like
to
discuss
tonight,
oh
and
then
we'll
jump
well
all
right
hold
on
approval
of
the
minutes.
Let's
jump
back
to
that
one.
Are
there
changes
to
the
minutes
from
the
august
5th
quality
of
life
committee.
D
C
G
G
A
A
D
A
G
G
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I'd,
also
like
to
co-sponsor
item
b
as
in
boy
and
then
I
also
had
a
couple
questions
on
item
h.
D
A
A
E
A
Yes,
all
right
with
that,
we
will
go
to
the
first
item
pulled
which
is
item
a.
I
believe
we
have
heard
a
presentation
on
this.
I
think
we
do
have
folks
on
the
call
if
we
would
like
to
hear
a
presentation,
but
I
also
know
that
the
counselors
have
seen
this
in
various
places
and
we
may
want
to
just
dive
into
questions.
So
what's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee,
would
you
are
you?
Okay,
just
diving
into
questions?
A
Okay,
so
I
am
not
in
control
of
the
screen.
It
looks
like
so
well.
Maybe
so
if
there
are
questions-
and
you
want
to
raise
your
hand-
let
me
know
counselor
garcia,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
First,
I
want
to
thank
the
team
for
getting
us
the
org
chart
and
the
draft
mission
statements.
I
really
appreciate
that
I
do,
I
guess
have
one
additional
request
in
regards
to
the
org
chart
is
if
we
could
get
it
a
little
more
drilled
down
into
staffing
structure.
I
Adam
chair,
yes,
this
is
jerrell.
May
I
ask
a
clarifying
question?
Yes,
did
you
want
to
see
that
orc
chart
with
just
the
new
positions
or
the
below
the
departments
as
well?
I
think
they're,
two
separate.
D
With
the
new
positions
absolutely-
and
I
also
want
to
be
able
to
see
how
positions
shifted
in
some
senses
so-
and
I
and
I
don't
want
to
see
an
org
chart
of
every
single
employee
because
that's
that's
challenging,
but
I
think
up
to
a
certain
level,
maybe
up
to
deputy
department,
directors,
division
directors,
whatever
the
titles
we're
going
to
call
them
at
minimum.
I
think
I
want
to
see
it
up
to
would
like
to
sit
up
to
that
level.
I
I
Nothing
exists,
but
we
will
we
can
work
to
get
you.
I'm
there's
a
number
of
documents
that
do
exist.
I'm
thinking
back
to
one
of
the
follow-up
from
the
budget
items,
which
was
the
one
page
that
showed
all
of
the
position
shifts.
Okay,
so
let
me
it
may
it
may
not
be
as
quick
of
a
turnaround
as
monday
to
wednesday.
Let
me
let
me
work
on
that.
If,
if
I
may.
D
Awesome
awesome.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
that
and
just
as
well,
if
we
can
include
that
in
the
packets
in
the
future,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
public
has
the
same
information
that
we
have
I'm
sure
they
have
a
lot
of
the
same
questions
we
do,
and
it
will
only
help
to
give
them
clear
understanding
of
what's
being
proposed.
I
It's
sent
by
jennifer
at
about
three
o'clock.
I
believe.
A
Okay,
counselor
garcia.
You
still
have
the
floor
for
questions
or
other
items
you're
requesting.
D
Okay,
yeah,
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
one
thing
that
I'm
unclear
of
I
know
that
we
are
proposing
new
positions,
but
isn't
it
true?
We've
got
a
lot
of
positions.
We
need
to
fill
that
are
leading
to
services
being
somewhat
not
a
hundred
percent
up
to
what
we
should
be
providing
to
the
citizens,
and
so,
for
example,
I
know
we've
got
we're
short
staffed
in
land,
the
use
and,
I
think,
we're
short
staffed
and
our
trash
and
recycling
pickup.
D
I
guess
whomever
is
proposing
the
reorg
so
whether
that's
the
city
manager-
I
don't
know
if
the
mayor's
on
with
us,
but
it's
whoever's,
making
the
proposal
and
given
that
it's
the
mayor,
maybe
he
can
answer
that
question.
If
he's
on.
I
don't
know
if
he's
on
with
us.
A
I
don't
think
the
mayor's
on
at
the
moment,
jarrell.
Is
that
something
you
can
yep.
I
He's
on
the
phone,
but
I
can
address
it
and
then
maybe
he
can
pick
up
from
there
so
and
bernadette
feel
free.
If
I
may
call
on
you
to
clarify
anything
that
I
get
a
little
askew
so
right
now
the
reorg
proposal
that
is
in
front
of
you,
contemplates
two
department
director
positions,
the
director
of
community
development
and
the
director
of
community
health
and
safety.
The
community
development
director
would
is
not
is
a
new
position,
but
it
would
be
utilizing
the
slot
that
is
the
economic
development
director.
I
So
that's
not
a
that
is
not
a
plus
one
that
is
a
within
the
within
the
existing
infrastructure.
They're
all
within
the
existing
infrastructure.
The
community,
health
and
safety
would
be
a
new
person.
It
is
using
a
vacant
assistant,
fire
chief
position,
so
nothing
is
adding
to
the
overall
number.
I
It
is
utilizing
vacancies
and
I
think
you
raise
a
really
important
point.
We
have
vacancies
across
the
city.
We
are
short
staffed,
pretty
much
everywhere.
If
you
ask
any
department
director
division
director
on
down
the
line,
you
will
hear
about
vacancies
and
short
staffed.
I
think
what
is
important
to
acknowledge
is
in
the
in
the
creation
of
these
departments.
Sometimes
we're
we're.
I
We
have
to
create
the
right
management
structure
in
order
to
then
continue
to
operate,
so
it's
not
an
either
or
it's
an
it's
a
it's
a
yes
and
we
need
you
know
we
need
more
cdl
drivers,
we
need
those
positions
filled.
What
the
the
director
positions
seek
to
do
is
create
a
synergy
and
an
opportunity
to
reframe
the
way
the
work
gets
done,
and
so
with
that
I
don't
know
if
bernadette
you
wanna,
if
we
could.
A
Just
a
minute,
I'm
I
don't
have
control
of
this
meeting.
I
don't
know
if
somebody
can
give
me
that
control
and
if
we
could
promote
the
mayor
to
a
panelist.
That
would
be
helpful
sure
I
just
did
just.
B
B
Not
any
old
room,
but
although
it
didn't
end
well,
but
I
think
yeah
counselor
garcia,
raises
what
is
a
ongoing
issue
for
our
city,
which
is
how
do
we
walk
and
chew
gum
at
the
same
time?
B
I
think
the
most
frustrating
thing
for
anybody
who
is
a
an
employee
of
any
organization
is
to
feel
like
your
effectiveness
is
limited
because
of
the
structure
and
the
tools
and
the
resources
that
you're
that
that
are
offered
to
you
are
not
up
to
what
you
need
to
have
in
order
to
get
your
job
done,
and
so
I
think
we
got
to
do
both.
At
the
same
time,
I
wasn't
being
facetious
when
I
said,
walk
and
chew
gum.
At
the
same
time,
we've
got
to
have
good
management.
B
There
is
nothing
more
fundamental
to
any
organization
than
a
professional,
modern,
effective
management
structure
and
resources.
If
you
think
back
to
where
we
were
two
and
a
half
three
years
ago,
just
in
terms
of
technology,
we
we
didn't,
have
the
ability
to
stand
up
and
eat
government,
and
if
the
pandemic
that
we're
dealing
with
right
now
it
happened
two
or
three
years
ago
our
land
use
department,
even
if
it
were
fully
staffed,
wouldn't
have
the
technology
at
its
fingertips
to
be
able
to
issue
e-permits
and
keep
construction
and
and
and
development
going.
B
That
was
a
function
of
good
management
and
the
good
management
provided
the
tools
so
that
the
employees
in
land
use
of
whom
we
do
need
more,
but
the
ones
we
have
were
equipped
with
the
technology
and
the
leadership
and
the
and
the
equipment
to
be
able
to
function
in
a
really
importantly
effective
way.
So
I
think
it's
I
think
the
city
manager
was
right,
it's
not
either,
or
it
really
is
both
and
and
if
we
do
one
and
not
the
other,
we
won't
have
an
effective
city
government.
B
If
we
do
a
little
bit
of
each
will
still
be
hamstrung.
I
think
we've
got
to
get
good
management,
good
alignment,
a
sense
of
purpose
and
mission
that
really
fulfills
the
value
that
we're
trying
to
produce
and
then
the
the
team
effectively
employed
to
get
the
job
done
with
resources,
equipment
tools
and
a
budget,
so
they
can
succeed.
B
B
D
D
And
part
of
my
sports
analogy,
but
sounds
I
mean
that
sounds
like,
but
we
currently
don't
have
a
full
team
to
fill
the
game,
and
it
seems
like
with
it's
what's
presented
in
front
of
us
is
we're
just
adding
an
additional
coach
when
we
need
more
players,
and
I
think
it's
critical,
we
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
add
more
players
to
the
team
that
way
we
can
provide
the
quality
services
that
our
citizens
want
and
deserve.
D
You
know,
for
example,
last
week
we
passed
the
short-term
rental
ordinance
where
there
are
more
penalties.
Well,
we
don't
have
enough
teammates
to
go
out
and
conduct
that
work,
so
so
I
would
like
for
us
to
to
set
a
plan
on
how
we
are
going
to
recruit
and
and
get
as
many
great
teammates
on
board
as
we
can.
But
so
I
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
D
Is
it
it's
my
understanding
that,
with
this
reorg,
there
will
also
be
the
hiring
of
a
deputy
city
manager?
Is
that
correct?
No,
no
deputy
city
manager,
nothing
like
that?
Okay!
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
thought
that
that
was
floated
out
there.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that.
I
Adam
chair,
counselor
garcia,
there
is
no,
there
is
no
such
proposal
at
this
time
again.
The
reor
in
front
of
you
proposes
the
creation
of
two
department,
department,
directors,
community
health
and
safety
and
community
development.
One
would
be
new,
the
other
would
be
an
elevation
of
an
existing
employee.
D
D
A
Aaron,
I
think
yeah
you
might
be
in
the
best
position
to
answer
that
question
for
counselor,
garcia.
J
Chairman
chairwoman,
romero
worth
counselor
garcia,
so
basically
the
the
ordinance
as
set
out
now
all
departments
report
to
the
city
manager
and
really
the
city
manager
is
the
employee
with
whom
the
council
is
authorized
to
work.
No
directives
or
requests
are
supposed
to
be
made
to
other
employees,
really
at
all,
there's
exceptions
for
making
copies
and
getting
information
like
requesting
information.
But
in
terms
of
requesting
jobs
to
be
completed,
it
really
is
supposed
to
be
done
through
the
city
manager.
K
D
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we're
consistent
with
that
quick
other
technical
question.
You
know
page
28,
section
a
line.
Five,
I
don't
understand
what
department
we're
talking
about.
D
It
just
says
all
requests
for
the
public
parks
for
organized
gatherings,
including
the
parking
plaza
and
plaza
park,
as
well
as
concessions
supporting
these
events
may
be
approved
by
the
department.
So
is
there
a
department?
J
Curewomen
romero
worth
counselor
garcia.
I
need
to
pull
up
that
page,
but
I
think
you're,
referring
to
the
part
that
was
previously
parks
and
recreation
department.
Is
that
right,
yes,
and
it
should
say
the
department
authorized
to
do
so
by
the
city
manager.
Is
that
not
what
it
says.
D
J
There's
other
there's
other
parts
to
our
code
that
do
something
similar
and
I
think,
because
parks
and
recreation
is
the
part
where
maybe
there's
going
to
be
an
evolving
situation.
J
Making
that
absolutely
have
to
come
out
of
a
particular
department
did
not
seem
like
the
best
choice
right
now,
so
we
left
it
a
little
bit
flexible.
It
certainly
could
be
assigned
to
a
particular
department,
but
since
I
think
we're
sussing
out
how
it's
going
to
work
best,
we
left
it
a
little
bit
more
flexible.
D
J
So
I
guess
just
one
one
thing
to
that
was
a
topic
that
we
discussed
on
monday
as
well,
for
the
names
of
the
departments
as
they're
named
now
we
kept
the
names
as
departments
for
those
that
are
offices,
we
kept
them
as
offices,
so
office,
emergency
management,
office
of
affordable
housing
and
then
for
economic
development
division.
It
actually
is
a
division
in
our
code,
so
I
just
left
it
as
a
division.
J
They
will
be
called
departments
if
they're
called
departments
now
so
it'll
still
be
a
police
department,
fire
department
we're
not
going
to
go
change
every
fire
truck
and
every
police
car
that
that's
the
idea
behind.
That's
the
idea
behind
the
proposal
is
really
that
they
have
those
names.
Now
they
still
are
what
they
are,
we're
not
changing.
Their
functions,
they're
still
going
to
be
doing
the
same
things.
People
will
still
be
calling
them
probably
the
same
name,
but
they
will
become
divisions,
but
they
still
have
the
same
name.
D
I
I
understand
that,
but
in
the
document
it
refers
to
it
as
a
division
division.
So
do
we
need
to
change
it
back
to
what
was
stricken
through
prior
because
it
refers
to
this
department
is
stricken
through
and
then
it's
replaced
with
division,
whereas
later
on
in
the
document
it
says
it's
going
to,
it
continues
with
the
language
of
department.
So
I
don't
know
if
we
need
to
change
that
back.
J
Okay,
I
may
have
misunderstood,
counts
council,
garcia.
Let
me
just
make
sure
I've
got
the
same
line
as
you
page
28
line
16.
F
A
A
J
D
A
Okay,
do
we
have
other
questions,
and
I
just
want
to
say
I
should
have
said
this
at
the
front.
I
do
want
to
try
to
keep
this
meeting
to
two
hours
and
you
know
we're
gonna.
We're
gonna
have
another
chance
to
discuss
this.
I
believe
that
the
governing
body
certainly
don't
want
to
shut
down
any
information
counselors
need
now,
but
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
moving
along
so
just
want
to
keep
that
in
everybody's
thought
process.
A
So
anyway,
other
questions,
counselor
cassette
sanchez.
L
Madam
chair
city
manager,
I
don't
feel
a
need
at
this
moment
to
repeat
everything
I
said
at
finance,
but
I
just
want
to
make
a
request
that
you
have
the
opportunity
to
watch
the
finance
meeting,
because
I
know
that
there
was
a
lot
of
questions.
Sorry,
my
cat's
in
my
face.
There
were
a
lot
of
questions
that
came
up
that
I
think
you
would
have
been
the
best
person
to
answer
so
just
to
make
that
request,
as
I
don't
feel
a
need
to
rehash
it
right
now,
since
we
already
had
that
conversation.
I
Yes
and
I
I
have-
and
I
appreciate
the
I
was
seeing
my
kid's
school
teacher
for
the
first
and
only
time
before
virtual
school
starts.
So
I
appreciate
the
flexibility
and
I
have
watched
it
and
I
took
all
comments
and
questions.
L
A
I
think
there
was
you
did
get
the
email
with
some
of
the
things
you
requested
correct.
L
I
And
I
do
want
to
say
on
the
mission
statements
I
think
you
know
these
are
very
much
draft
a
work
in
progress,
as
you
know,
if,
if
this
moves
through
and
gets
approved,
I
think
you
know,
the
creation
of
a
mission
statement
is
a
really
important
piece
of
work.
You're
taking
existing
operations,
creating
you
know
proactive
mission
and
vision,
and
I
think
that
that
is
that
is.
That
is
important
work.
I
That
takes
time
not
you
know
over
the
course
of
you
know,
it
doesn't
happen
overnight,
and
so
I
think
that's
a
really.
I
think
as
we
you
know,
as
we
get
clarity
on
what
what's
moving
forward,
then
we
can
really
do
the
the
important
work
of
making
sure
that
those
are
tight
and
cover
all
of
the
bases.
I
think
again,
those
are
a
really
important
starting
point,
but
there's
there's
more
work
to
be
done.
There.
L
And
just
to
to
counsel
garcia's
point
about
the
the
staffing
question,
which
I
I
think
is
a
very
good
question.
I
think
I
would
say
that
I
would
have
a
bit
more
hesitancy
about
adding
new
positions
or,
I
guess,
hiring
the
one
new
person,
if
it
if
it
didn't,
have
to
do
with
the
public
safety
piece,
because
that
has
been
such
a
huge
community
conversation
and
I
think
that's
something
for
us
to
think
about.
L
If
we
can
really
undertake
this
shift
that
we're
hoping
to
make
in
public
safety
a
new
approach
to
public
safety.
I
think
if
we
get
the
right
person
in
there,
they
could
be
a
really
big
asset,
because
for
me
that
feels
like
just
such
a
big
shift
that
we're
looking
for.
But
I
think
that
that's
a
very
you
know
something
that
to
be
very
cautious
of,
as
we
are
moving
forward
with
coming
out
of
covet
world
is:
how
are
we
identifying?
L
Where
are
we
going
to
be
filling
positions
and
how?
How
might
this
reorg?
If
we
pass
it?
How
would
that
potentially
change
some
of
those
positions?
So
that's
something
else
that
you
know
maybe
to
think
about
jerrell
over
the
next
week
until
governing
body
that
I'd
like
to
revisit
at
that
time,
because
I'm
curious
how
this
could
potentially
impact
some
of
the
and
hopefully
help
some
of
our
cobit
recovery.
If
we
were
to
move
forward
with
this
so
so
yeah,
I
think
that
that
you
look
confused
with
my
question
yeah.
L
L
You
know
some
of
the
emails
that
we've
been
getting
is
this
concern
of
additional
bureaucracy
and
that
this
is
going
to
slow
down
our
processes,
and
I
would
like
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that
about
how
this
new
structure
would
envision
work
being
done,
how
there
being
a
layer
between
yourself
and
some
of
our
current
department
managers?
L
I
Madam
chair
counselor,
cassette
sanchez-
I
will
take
that,
and
so
I
think,
what's
really
important
and
we've
acknowledged
this
before
is
the
the
right
level
of
management
actually
makes
things
move
faster,
not
slower
and
part
of
our
struggle.
Right
now
is
we
are
we
we
don't.
We
don't
necessarily
have
the
right
level
of
management,
and
so
I
think
you
know
one
example
I'll
use
to
try
and
illustrate
so
we
put
together
on
the
calendar.
I
This
was
pre-coded
a
weekly
meeting
around
homelessness
and
housing
so
brought
together
all
of
the
right
divisions
to
address
a
issue
that
is,
you
know,
crosses
silos,
right
that
that
works
across
it
was
police
fire
community
services
the
whole
like
it
became
because
there's
a
number
of
issues
that
cross
you
know.
So
we
have
a
weekly
meeting
that
I
run
because
who
else
is
gonna
run
it?
I
What
came
out
of
that
was
the
creation
of
this
encampment
policy,
because
it
was
a
an
issue
that
needed
to
come
that
we
needed
to
work
tightly
on.
It
took
us
upwards
of
12
weeks
to
get
it
done
because
we're
working
week
by
week
everybody's
on
working
in
their
own
space
and
we
come
together.
We
have
a
community
health
and
safety
department
right
in
which
a
bulk
of
the
work
is
being
done.
I
You've
got
somebody
who's
able
to
drive
that
on
a
day-to-day
level
or
weekly
or
weekly,
but
that
is
able
to
push
some
of
these
proactive
policies
that
we
are
in
so
desperate
need
of,
and
that
would
allow
it
to
to
come
together.
How
much
faster
you've
got
somebody
driving
it
you've
got
then
myself
you're
the
city
manager,
others,
the
city
attorney,
who
can
weigh
in,
but
on
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
where
we're
not
just
doing
triage,
where
we're
not
just
making
day-to-day
decisions.
I
That's
where
I
think
things
will
actually
move
a
lot
faster
to
really
push
us
push
us
forward.
So
I
I
don't
think
there
there
it's
not
an
added
level
of
bureaucracy.
I
think
what
we're
doing
is
creating
again
finding
synergies,
creating
a
level
of
opportunity
to
really
you
know.
I
The
team
is
remarkable
and
works
really
well
together
across
boundaries
on
our
on
its
own
on
on
our
own,
but
when
you've
got
additional
folks
with
bandwidth,
who
are
you
know
again
we're
all
we're
all
split
between
the
the
day-to-day
right,
the
day-to-day
incoming
the
emails,
the
questions,
the
concerns,
concerns
from
constituents
and
the
proactive
planning
and
the
the
really
more
visionary
work.
L
L
Okay,
great
all
right,
thank
you.
I
will
yield
the
camera.
A
And
counselor
sanchez-
I
just
also
would
interject
that
the
good
governance
initiatives
that
that
we're
working
on
should
also
help
and-
and
that
will
be
bringing
forward
hopefully
soon-
should
help
move
things
along
and
make
sure
we
don't
get
stymied
in
bureaucracy.
And
you
know
that
we're
lean
and
doing
some
things
that.
I
If
I
may
one
other
thing,
I
think
you
know
part
of
one
of
the
biggest
frustrations
on
things
like
medians
or
where
or
where
you've
got
a
number
of
crews.
It's
like
well,
who's
who's,
got
that
or
who's
doing
this.
I
What
this
re-org
is
again
trying
to
do
is
make
sure
that
it's
very
is
to
increase
this
our
level
of
effectiveness,
and
so
we
don't
have
two
teams
showing
up
at
the
same
time
you
don't
have
a
parks,
crew
and
and
a
streets
crew
showing
up
at
the
same
job
when
we've
got.
You
know,
we
know
acres
of
medians,
that
of
weeds
that
need
to
be
cleaned,
and
so,
I
think,
really
being
clear
again
instead
of
having
to
like
go
through
this
complex
matrix.
I
Well,
you
cover
this
part,
and
you
cover
this
part,
and
you
cover
this
part.
We've
got
one
crew
who
covers
it
all
and
I
think
that's
really
important
is
and
also
sort
of
increasing
the
decreasing
the
frustrations
of
our
teams
too
right.
You
know,
bureaucracy
is
not
just
too
much
management.
It's
a
lot
of
times
when
there's
no
clear
direction
as
to
where
what
happens-
and
I
think
that's
really
important,
particularly
on
the
park
side
right
where
you're,
where
they're
gonna
be.
I
If
this
is
approved
by
the
governing
body,
a
division
in
public
works.
You've
got
access.
You
are
now
part
of
the
same
team
to
solve
across
many
of
these
sort
of
continual
ongoing
issues
that
we
face
so
without
all
yield.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
all
right,
I'm
not
sure
I
think
counselor
woman
via
real.
I
think
you
were
had
your
hand
up
next,
so
I'll
I'll
go.
G
To
you,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
asked
a
lot
of
questions
during
finance
that
I
won't
repeat
necessarily
there's
still
concerns.
G
I
have
and
counselor
gotta
see
how
you
bring
up
questions
that
I
was
asking
about
and
concerned
more
about
the
vacancies
and
the
hiring
freezes
and
what
that
looks
like
for
us
and
that
to
me
is
the
bigger
issue
and
the
fact
that
our
staff
are
going
through
these
tumultuous
times
with
furloughs
and
dealing
with
pandem
the
pandemic
working
from
home,
and
these
kind
of
changes
are
not
easy
to
deal
with
for
for
any
of
us,
and
so
I
just
think
this
other
layer
of
like
change
or
drastic
change
is
a
big
deal
and
should
be
shouldn't
be
taken
lightly.
G
I
guess
I'm
of
the
mindset
of
taking
things
more
incrementally,
and
this
to
me
does
not
take
that
approach
at
all,
and
so
that's
what
I've
been
struggling
with
and
not
all
the
changes.
I'm
opposed
to
there's
some
that
really
make
sense
to
me.
G
I'm
just
wondering
why
we
like
package
it
all
in
one
piece-
and
I
know
it's
part
of
the
ordinance,
but
I
still
think
there's
ways
to
do
things
incrementally,
so
that
we
can
evaluate
the
the
process
and
then
how
how
things
are
fitting
together
instead
of
loading
it
on
and
saying
these
are
the
these
are
all
the
changes
all
at
once.
G
So
that's
what
I've
been
struggling
with
and
I
think
in
the
next
phase
or
the
next
time
we
get
to
talk
about
this,
which
will
be
council,
is
just
really
understanding
how
staff
came
to
what
their
process
was
of
vetting
this
idea
initially
and
what
their
methodology
was
and
how
they
got.
G
Staff
involved
at
all
levels
to
understand
what
this
could
look
like
and
get
their
input,
and
so
I'd
like
to
know
that,
maybe
not
necessarily
now,
because
we
have
another
chance
to
talk
about
it,
because
I
think
you
know
I
think
I
said
this
in
the
budget
hearing
about
progress
and
progress
requires
change,
but
not
all
change
is
progress,
so
I'm
really
liking
to
take
especially
re-orgs,
taking
things
slowly
and
a
lot
of
the
decisions
we've
been
having
to
make
have
been
really
fast
forward:
quick
emergency
style
changes
and
decisions,
and
partly
it's
because
of
the
pandemic
and
the
economy,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
factors
in
there.
G
But
I
guess
I
just
I
see,
there's
opportunities
to
be
able
to
work
across
departments
without
necessarily
having
a
reorg
so
and
counselor
garcia.
I
was
also
the
one
that
brought
up.
Why
didn't
we
consider
a
deputy
city
manager?
We
had
talked
about
that
idea
in
the
past,
and
I've
never
been
opposed
to
that.
It
was
usually
a
budget
issue.
G
But
now,
if
we're
looking
at
a
potential
new
director
and
other
changes,
I
still
think
that
that
was
a
piece
that
we've
been
lacking
for
a
long
time
and
we
had
talked
about
it
in
finance
and
one
of
the
counselors
had
said
well,
we
need
two
well
okay.
Maybe
we
do
need
to,
but
I
would
like
to
start
with
the
deputy
at
least
to
see
how
that
works
for
the
city
manager
office.
So
if
we
had
a
if
we
had
money
to
budget
for
anything,
I
would
rather
see
that.
G
So
I
don't
know
if
that's
where
you
heard
a
rumor
about
deputy
city
manager,
but
I'm
not
opposed
to
that
idea,
and
I
guess
I
didn't
get-
I
didn't
see
the
attachment.
I
just
saw
it
now
so
I'll.
Look
at
that.
The
other
thing
is
there's.
This
ordinance
is
extremely
messy
in
terms
of
the
technical
changes
that
need
to
happen.
G
I
talked
about
them
a
little
bit
for
finance
and
during
the
finance
meeting
and
I'm
seeing
more,
and
so
I'm
wondering
how
to
get
those
to
you
all
because,
regardless
of
the
how
this
goes,
there's
a
lot
of
changes,
technical
things
that
need
to
be
changed
on
that
ordinance.
It's
messy
and
there's
some
language
in
there
that's
old
language
from
how
the
affordable
housing
office
was
structured.
G
G
G
I
think
it's
hard
to
see
where
they're
at
it's
better
to
maybe
just
show
you
through
check
changes,
hope
so
I'll.
Send
that
to
you
all
by
the
end
of
the
week.
I
hope
so
to
get
those
done,
because
they're
they're
things
that
should
have
just
been
changed
a
long
time
ago,
and
so
I'm
glad
that
staff
picked
up
on
some
of
them
as
we
worked
through
the
adjustments
with
the
reorg
in
this
case,
so
I'll
send
those
to
you.
That's
all
I
have
madam
chair.
M
G
I
Topic,
madam
chair
councilor
villarreal,
I
I
I
did
want
to
just
acknowledge
your
comment
about
sort
of
progress
and
change
and
change
for
progress
sake
and
how
that
all
fits
together,
because
I
think
it's
really
it's
the
moment
right.
I
I
will
say
that
we
were
talking
about
the
reorg
well
before
the
pandemic
hit
and
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
conversations
around
community
development
and
how
do
we
work
again,
work
together,
better
leverage,
our
resources,
even
when,
when
things
were
booming
and
things
were
growing
really
well,
we
started
having
that
conversation
and
the
reality
is
it's
really
hard
so
right,
it's
sort
of
back
in
january,
it
was
like.
Oh
is
this.
You
know.
Is
this
too
hard
change
is
really
hard.
I
I
think
what
for
me,
what
I
think
is
what
we
try
to
do
in
this
proposal.
Is
we're
moving
boxes
so
we're
trying
to
limit
the
impact
on
as
much
of
the
rank
the
rest
of
the
operation
as
possible,
so
by
moving
the
the
boxes?
We're
impacting
directors
very,
very
much
so,
but
those
that
are
under
them
are
a
little
more
protected
and
so
we're
you
know
we're
moving
these
boxes,
we're
not
opening
the
boxes,
we're
not
unpacking
the
boxes.
I
Yet
that
would
be
phase
two
or,
as
we
see
how
this
goes.
We're
really
most
most
folks
will
not
be
directly
imp,
their
their
day-to-day
manager.
Their
day-to-day
operations
will
not
be
dramatically
impacted,
and
I
think
you
know
again
the
this.
I
The
city
has
been
through
a
remarkable
amount
of
change
in
the
last
two
years
and
finding
the
balance
between
sort
of
keeping
pushing
through
these
uncertain
times
and
getting
getting
to
the
other
side
getting
to
a
new
shape
of
an
organization
while
also
really
respecting
that
these
are
you
know
this
is
everybody's
daily
livelihood
daily
job
and
how
many
processes
can
we
change?
How
much
can
we
do,
but
I
think
what
you
know:
it's
a
resilient
group
of
people.
I
I
think
the
experience
of
going
through
erp
the
challenges
we
faced
with
munis,
the
the
heartache
and
heartbreak
right
that
was
hot.
That
was
hard
and
here
we
are-
and
it's
they're
still
challenges
to
face,
but
that
getting
to
the
other
side
of
that
allowed
us
to
be.
You
know
we're
turning
things
around
faster,
so
I
think
I
I
I
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
I
I
think
it's
again,
it's
a
both
and
but
what
we
really
try
to
do
with
the
the
this
rework
and
again
it's
you
know:
three
big
buckets
the
commute,
the
creation
community,
health
and
safety
create
community
development
and
the
celebration
of
parks
and
wreck
to
align
for
a
tighter
work
product.
I
think
really
it
I'm
not
minimizing
the
impact
of
the
change,
but
it's
not
we're
not
moving
all
sorts
of
different
things.
So
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that.
G
I
Think
I
know
yeah
madam
chair
counselor
viral
the
the
intent.
These
are
people.
These
aren't
boxes,
it's
humans
that
that's
the
part,
but
in
terms
of
the
operation
it
is,
we
are
moving
an
entity
as
a
whole
into
another
thing:
we're
not
unpacking
an
entity
and
moving
its
parts.
I
guess
I
should
say
it
that
way.
G
Yeah,
I
think
I
agree
with
you.
In
some
cases
the
day-to-day
management
will
not
change
and
then
there's
some
that
will,
I
think,
are,
will
be
significant,
and
so
that's,
where
I'm
kind
of
staying
like
there's
some
that
I
think
are
going
to
be
fairly
easy.
It's
not
going
to
change
for
certain
departments
that
will
become
divisions,
it's
just
there's
others
that
they
seem
so
top-heavy,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
A
Okay,
moving
on
counselor
rivera.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
madam
city
manager.
Are
we
doing
this
reorganization
because
of
the
budget
shortfall,
or
is
it
the
budget
shortfall
that
created
this
response
in
order
to
provide
better
services
or
is
it
a
combination.
I
Adam
chair,
counselor
rivera,
thank
you
for
the
question.
I
think
it's
it's
both
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
we've
been
talking
about
a
reorganization
for
a
while,
even
since
I
became
since
I
was
interim
city
manager
and
then
became
officially
city
manager
in
january,
we
were
seriously
looking
at
a
rear,
so
that
was
well
before
any
of
the
budget
crisis
happened
any
of
covet,
and
you
know
before
we
knew
when
we
were
growing
big,
big
and
strong.
It's
still.
There
was
still
this
need
for
an
organizational
shift.
I
I
think
now,
though,
what
you
know,
as
we
were
going
through
the
really
hard
choices
with
the
budget,
it
forces
creative
thinking
and
I
think
that's
where
being
able
to
when
we're
when
we're
down,
but
not
out
how
do
we?
How
do
we
take
this
as
an
opportunity
to
really
restructure
the
way
the
city
provides
services
to
its
residents
and,
and
it
gives
us
a
chance
to
say,
okay,
we've
is
this:
the
right
is
this
the
best
model
for
this
level
of
service,
or
is
there
a
different
model?
I
I
think
now,
as
we
are
seeing
you
know,
probably
certainly
a
year
of
uncertainty.
What's
the
right
way
to
provide
the
most,
you
know
direct
aid
to
those
in
need.
What's
the
right
way
to
you
know,
invest
in
infrastructure
or
create
some?
You
know
recession,
area
area
spending
so
that
we're
not
we're
not
back
and
forth.
So
the
the
short
answer
is
it's
both.
I
We
wanted
to
do
this
before
the
budget
crisis
and
I
think
now,
with
the
budget
crisis,
it's
even
more
imperative,
because
if
we
just
keep
cutting
and
adding
more
needs,
the
requests
don't
stop,
and
so,
but
if
we
can
reshape
the
way
that
the
work
gets
done,
then
we
can
continue
to
provide
as
close
to
the
level
of
service
or
being
very
clear
about
what
we
can
no
longer
afford
to
do,
or
that
it's
best
that
this
that
this
is
you
know
not
a
city
function
that
it
is
a
partnership
with
an
outside
organization.
I
So
the
short
answer
is
it
is.
It
is
absolutely
both.
E
Okay
and
then
I
think
I
had
spoken
to
your
predecessor
as
well
as
you
before,
and
I
think
currently
you
manage
up
to
12
managers
and
the
reorganization
will
cut
it
down
to
seven,
which
I
think
falls
better
in
line
with
with
best
practices
is,
is
seven
a
manageable
amount
for
you
and
does
it?
I
assume
it'll,
make
things
easier
for
you.
I
Madam
chair
counselor
rivera
thank
you.
It's
actually
17
right
now
and
you're
right
it
does.
It
would
take
it
down
to
seven.
I
think
that
is
you
know
in
any
sort
of
incident
command
the
span
the
manage
the
span
of
management
control
is
seven.
No
good
management
operation
says
you
can
manage
directly
any
more
than
that,
and
I
think
you
know
I've
been
very
open
and
honest
with
all
of
you.
I
think
what
the
city
manager
does
right
now
is
triage.
It's
not
a
direct
management.
I
You
can't
do
that
when
you've
got
17
direct
reports-
and
it's
really
you
know
21
on
on
a
staff
meeting,
you
really
you
handle
the
incoming
and
again.
What
this
will
allow
us
to
do
is
create
is,
is
move,
move
faster
and
move
forward
more
tightly,
and
I
think
again
acknowledging
that
this
is
not
the
be
all
and
end-all
the
sev,
it's
seven
direct
reports
with
still
the
you
know,
access
and
direct
convert
conversation
with
others.
I
I
will
still
be
you
know
very
involved
in
with
the
police
chief
and
the
fire
chief
and
the
land
use
director.
I
think
this
is
really
around
but
being
able
to
have
bandwidth
again
to
sort
of
drive
things
forward.
The
you
know,
one
person
can
only
do
so
much.
E
And
do
you
think
this
will
allow
I'll
bring
up
the
police
chief
and
the
fire
chief
to
really
focus
on
their
departments
and
not
focus
so
much
on
really
dealing
with
the
city,
manager
and
management.
I
There's
again,
we've
talked
about
this
there's
the
day-to-day
operations
and
then
there's
some
of
these
big
picture,
cross-cutting
issues,
and
it's
really
you
know
everybody
has
to
do
both,
but
it's
really
hard
to
do
both,
and
I
think
I
won't
speak
for
either
chief,
but
in
our
conversations
they've
both
expressed
interest
and
excitement
in
being
able
to
focus
on
their
day
daily
day,
job
the
day-to-day
operations
and
that,
if,
if
this
proposal
moves
forward
and
we've
got
a
director
of
public
health
and
safety
that
that's
the
person,
who's
really
again
think
looking
across
the
departments
working
to
create
these
policies.
I
Thinking
about
where
the
through
lines
are
with
our
budget,
you
know:
how
do
we
build
a
better
mijo?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we're
you
know
the
the
right
people
are
responding
to
the
right
calls.
I
mean
you
guys
know,
there's
no
end,
there's
no
end
in
to
the
to
the
work.
There's
a
lot
of
progress
to
be
made,
and
it's
really
that
balancing
act
so
having
somebody
who
can
really
drive
that
forward
is
is
exciting.
It
I
think
it
it
lifts.
E
All
right,
one
final
question,
so
I
was
interested
and
I
think
I've
heard
others
saying
that
they're
interested
in
like
a
six
month
review
of
this,
but
thinking
on
it.
While
I'm
listening
to
my
colleagues
answer
questions
that
really
puts
us
around
april
and
at
that
point
we'll
be
discussing
the
new
the
budget
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
So
do
you
think
there's
really
a
need
for
some
type
of
review,
or
do
you
think
it'll
just
happen
as
a
result
of
discussing
the
the
new
budget.
I
I
I
think
your
your
timing
is
right,
though
it
will
be
right
around
the
budget
which
has
actually
we
we
brought
the
reorg
as
part
of
the
budget
in
the
first
place,
because
you
that
was
the
request
in
april
of
last
year
right
that
it's
all
sort
of
part
of
the
context
that
part
of
what
the
governing
body
ultimately
votes
on
is
the
budget,
but
it's
part
of
a
bigger
picture,
so
I
I
think
it
actually
could
work
really
well,
if
we
did
it
as
part
of
the
budget,
I've
been
told
by
others
in
the
past
that
reorgs
have
not
really
ever
been
standalone.
I
They've
always
either
come
forward
as
part
of
the
budget
or
been
like
a
particular
item.
I
don't
know
how
that
tracks
with
ul's
experience,
but
I
I
I
am
look,
I
think
we're
gonna.
You
know
the
budget
this
year
is
going
to
be
very
iterative.
We're
gonna
be
looking
at
at
things
on
a
you
know,
quarterly
basis.
So
I
think,
as
part
of
the
budget
seeing
how
this
reorg
is
is
going
and
getting
council.
You
know
input
and
review.
I
think
is
really
important
and
I
would
be
amenable
to
that.
E
All
right,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
madam
city
manager,.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
just
want
to
kind
of
re-emphasize
what
counselor
bia
real
brought
up
in
regards
to
you
know
the
background
info
justification
for
this
proposal
and
any
data
that
you
have
to
support
it.
Quick
question
in
regards
to
that
was:
I
know
that
there
had
been
some
focus
groups
established.
Were
those
focus
groups
part
of
this
planning
process.
D
I
Madam
chair
counselor,
garcia,
we
did,
we
we
put
out
the
call
to
start
them.
We
never
we
actually
in
in
the
effort
to
redo
the
budget.
We
got.
We
got
responses
from
folks
who
wanted
to
participate.
We
haven't
actually
convened
the
first
meeting
of
those.
The
intention
is
still
to
do
so.
I
think
as
again
as
we're
continuing
to
go
forward.
So
we've
got
the
recommendations
of
folks
who
want
to
participate,
but
we
didn't
convene
that
first
meeting
yet.
D
Okay,
great,
thank
you
for
that
clarification
and
to
go
back
to
the
position
with
the
community
development
proposed
new
community
development.
You
had
mentioned
that
that
would
be
led
by
an
existing
staff
member.
Wouldn't
we
have
to
fill
the
position
that
existing
staff
member
would
leave.
So
in
essence,
it
still
would
create
a
new
position,
a
new
hire.
I
D
A
Great,
thank
you,
everybody
for
your
questions.
I
I
mean,
I
guess
the
way
I
see
this
reorganization
is.
This
is
really
a
beginning
and-
and
maybe
that's
what
jarrell
means
when
she
says
we're
we're
moving
these
boxes
and
there's
so
much
more
work.
That's
gonna
have
to
come
after.
We
approve
this
and
you
know
I
think
some
of
the
the
the
mission
statements
will
have
to
be
developed,
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
work.
A
I
mean
particularly
the
the
the
department
that's
going
to
look
at
at
police
and
fire
and
community
services,
and
how
do
we
best
meet
the
community
needs
looking
across
those
those
players,
it's
really
the
leadership
and
and
and
they're
going
to
figure
out
kind
of
the
vision
and
how
best
to
use
our
resources
and
and
the
talents
among
and
across
the
variety
of
of
groups
that
we're
bringing
together
divisions
that
we're
bringing
together,
and
then
you
know
that
from
there
will
actually,
I
think,
trickle
down
kind
of
what
the
staffing
needs
are,
and
you
know
do
we
have
too
many
here
and
not
enough
here
and
and
as
as
our
revenues
improve
where.
A
How
do
we
prioritize
where
we
add
so
I
I
I
see
this
as
you
know,
we're
not
going
to
solve
the
city's
problems
with
this.
With
this
one
vote
on
this
one
bill
and
and
and
this
one
reorganization,
I
think
you
know,
will
it
it
is
change.
I
think
it's
a
good
time
for
change
and
we'll
we'll
continue
to
to
massage
it
or
tinker
with
it
or
adjust
it
whatever.
A
Whatever
analogy
you
want
to
use,
as
as
we
go
forward,
so
just
throw
that
out
mayor
you,
you
just
popped
back
in.
B
Well,
because
I
wanted
to
build
on
what
you
just
said
and
I
think
you're
right,
I
think
the
I
also
wanted
to
compliment
you
for
raising
the
some
of
the
good
governance
proposals
that
you've
been
working
on
with
others
on
the
council.
I
think
this
is
all
part
of
an
ongoing
process.
B
B
Your
proposals
in
terms
of
government
governance
are
another
example
of
that
they're,
not
they're,
not
extremely
public
facing,
but
they
will
make
the
implementation
of
contracts,
for
example,
happen
more
quickly
which
will
lead
to
services
being
delivered
more
effectively.
B
So
I
I
see
this
as
an
incremental
ongoing
process.
It's
been
was
advanced
by
the
pr
prior
administration
in
some
form,
and
it
it
really
does
provide
evidence
that
the
government
is
a
living
organism.
B
We're
a
living
entity
made
up
of
the
people
who
work
in
it,
and
so
we're
we're
not
unmindful
of
we're
only
as
good
as
the
people
and
the
leadership
in
the
organization
trying
to
meld
that
into
a
more
effective
structure,
and
I
think
the
city
manager
made
a
a
really
good
point
about
in
answering
councillor
rivera's
question
about.
Was
this
a
product
of
the
covid
led
recession
or
not?
B
The
answer
truly
is
it's
both,
and
it's
also,
I
think
another
example
of
ways
in
which
we're
trying
to
make
a
very
difficult
time
present
opportunities
rather
than
simply
downsizing
it.
Is
it
one
one
one
step
that
cities
across
america
have
taken
when
they're
faced
with
revenue
shortfalls
is
simply
to
cut,
and
our
model
instead
has
been
to
reimagine.
B
We
have
not
cut
we've,
not
laid
people
off,
we've
not
cut
positions,
we've
not
reduced
payroll.
We've
tried
to
maintain
and
provide
stability
at
the
same
time
that
we
reimagine
a
structure
so
that,
in
a
variety
of
departments,
we'll
have
an
integrated
approach
to
health
and
safety,
which
is
very
much
an
important
undertaking.
It
is
a
nationally
important
undertaking.
A
You
know
as
you
as
you
speak
mayor
I
it.
It
reminds
me
that
it's,
this
isn't
even
really
the
beginning.
If
you
really
want
to
go
back
some
arguably
the
beginning
was
when
the
city
charter
review
commission
was
constituted
under
the
last
mayor
to
look
at
the
governance
structure.
A
Of
of
you
know
our
our
mayor
and
our
in
our
governing
body
and
how
all
of
that
works
and
and
making
you
full-time
and
again,
with
this
eye
towards
professionalizing
for
for
growing
having
the
city's
governance
structure
grow
up
to
meet
the
21st
century
city
that
we
actually
are.
So
you
know
this
is
this
is
just
the
next
phase.
A
If
you
will
of
that
continuing
work,
and
it
happens
at
many
levels
and
reorganization,
it
seems
to
me,
is-
is
a
natural
next
step
after
you
know,
we,
after
the
voters,
approved
making
you
full
time
and
you're
you're
our
first
full-time
mayor,
and
you
know
how
how
how
that
all
has
has
evolved,
so
just
throw
that
out
there
too.
All
right,
I'm
not
gonna.
I
I
was
trying
to
keep
us
on
schedule,
got
a
lot
still
to
talk
about.
E
D
Yes,
I'll
still
see
it
next
week.
So
yes.
A
Okay,
so
with
that,
let's
see
if
we
can
get
through
these
other
consent
agenda
items
fairly
quickly,
so
we
can
move
on
to
our
honored
guests,
who
are
here
mostly
staff,
but
still
happy
to
have
them
here.
I
believe
counselor,
real,
you
pulled
off
item
f.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
G
So,
let's
see
I
know
this
is
a
regular
or
we.
This
is
just
an
amendment
to
an
existing
contract
and
what
I
was
trying
to
understand
the
in
the
memo.
It
says
the
service
fees
would
remain
the
same
and
then
the
annual
amount
of
five
thousand
of
out
of
pocket
expenses,
and
I'm
wondering
if
mr
randall
could
explain
that,
because
in
the
contract
it
still
says
10
000
for
out
of
pocket
expenses,
but
your
memo
says
5
000..
So
I'm
wondering
where
we
need
to
make
that
change.
O
Madam
chair
accounts
would
be
a
rail,
they're
they're.
Actually
two
amendment
number
twos,
the
first
one
was
at
130
000
that
had
the
legal
approval
and
then,
but
for
the
budget
purposes
we
reduced
it
from
the
130
to
125
and
we
were
instructed
by
purchasing
to
do
a
second
contract.
O
Amendment
number
two
that
reflects
the
125
that
we're
requesting,
so
the
the
the
first
one
at
130
was
included
just
to
show
that
there
was
legal
review
of
the
of
the
form
of
the
contract,
but
that
the
but
the
amount
of
125
is
the
correct
amount.
O
O
We
found
that
they
weren't
often
using
the
full
amount
of
10
anyway
and
with
the
reduced
travel
we
anticipate
on
the
part
of
press.
We
may
not
even
actually
use
the
the
full
amount
of
the
five.
The
the
fixed
part
of
this
contract
is
the
10
per
month.
120
000
and
the
five
is
just
available.
If,
in
fact,
we
need
to
use
it
for
press
coming
in.
G
O
Yeah
random
chair
concert
via
rail.
It
would
be
for
press
trips
coming
in
or
it
would
be
if
they
incurred
any
expenses
on
our
behalf
they
operate
out
of
new
york
is,
is
the
office
that
we
work
with,
and
so,
if
they
do
any
work
on
a
pre-approved
basis,
that
5000
could
be
used
for
their
services
as
well
in
new
york,.
O
G
Okay,
that's
all
I
have
for
that
item.
E
D
A
G
This
is
for
the
contract
with
vladimir
jones
and
so
again
it's
similar
to
what
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
for
the
last
item
and
because
of
the
pandemic,
what
adjustments
the
company's
making
that's
shifting
their
work,
and
I
saw
on
page
11
of
the
document
there's
a
line
item
again
for
5000
for
travel.
G
However,
no
travel
is
occurring,
so
I'm
just
curious
why
that
wasn't
adjusted
down
and
then,
if
there
was
any
other
deliverables
that
will
change
due
to
the
pandemic
for
this
contract.
O
Madam
chair
accountability,
good
questions.
The
whole
contract
is
down
from
a
million
five
last
year,
so
there's
two
hundred
thousand
dollar
reduction,
I'm
not
sure
about
the
5
000
travel
in
this,
but
that
would
be
to
cover
any
visits
that
the
team
makes
they
come
down
from
denver
and
once
we
once
we
are
allowed
to
have
business
travel
into
the
state
again
without
a
14-day
quarantine.
O
O
O
O
We
will
kick
it
off
and
begin
marketing
again
to
try
to
get
people
back
in
our
hotels
we
ran
in
in
july,
we
ran
33
occupancy
for
the
city
as
opposed
to
78
the
prior
year
june.
We
were
at
40
when
the
quarantine
wasn't,
in
effect,
for
the
drive
traffic.
O
We
were
at
40
and
we
were
going
to
see
a
build
we
felt
during
the
summer,
but
so
we
will
hold
these
dollars
and
be
able
to
make
a
stronger
restart
using
the
dollars
that
would
have
been
spread
out
more
over
the
year.
G
Sorry,
it's
been
my
trend
today
for
some
reason,
can
you
tell
me
more
about
the
200
000
reduction,
what
that
was
about
why
that
was
decided.
O
O
We
we
actually
reduced
our
budget
wherever
we
could
and
then
built
our
advertising
dollar
back
up
to
what
would
fit
in
the
budget.
So
if
we
could
have
put
in
a
million
four,
I
would
have
put
in
a
million
four.
But
a
million
three
was
what
would
fit
into
the
budget
and
it
will
come.
O
It
will
come
out
of
just
some
reduced
areas
of
advertising
that
the
agency
does
that
either
would
have
been
experimental,
we're
all
the
time
trying
to
experiment
with
new
new
sources
to
generate
business,
and
so
we're
really
focusing
in
on
the
the
stuff
that
worked
historically
very
well
this
past
year
to
ensure
that
that
we
get
the
biggest
bang
for
the
dollar.
That
we'll
be
spending.
G
So
that
reduced
areas
of
advertising
due
to
the
pandemic-
and
you
said
that
advertising
has
been
on
hold,
how
come
the
contract
doesn't
isn't
set
up.
So
it's
based
on
work,
performed
or
like
on
a
kind
of
pay
by.
O
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
rail,
the
the
the
the
contract
that
we
have
with
the
agency.
I
think
it
specifies
about
295,
000
or
290
000
of
of
the
total
million
three
is
the
agency
fees
for
the
the
work
that
they
do,
which
includes
the
creative
it
includes
the
buying.
It
includes
the
tracking
of
the
advertising.
O
O
Now
it's
about,
82
percent
is
digital,
and
the
amount
of
of
of
print
ads
is
down
to
very
minimal
because
they
require
more
lead
time
and
what
we
didn't
want
to
end
up
with
was
a
a
print
ad
in
in
in
the
dallas
magazine
in
the
month
of
september,
when
texas
can't
come
to
santa
fe,
so
we've
tried
to
make
it
so
that
the
way
the
dollars
are
going
to
be
spent
are
the
most
flexible
and
the
most
versatile,
and
that's
where
the
digital
comes
in
very
little
out
of
out
of
home
advertising,
almost
82
percent.
O
I
think
it
is
that's
that's
digital
and
and
when
they
buy
these
ads
in
the
digital,
because
they
can
be
tracked,
we're
guaranteed
a
certain
number
of
exposures
and
if,
in
fact,
the
amount
of
advertising
that
they
buy
from
any
particular
source
doesn't
gain
those
number
of
exposures,
the
ads
just
keep
running
until
we
at
least
get
to
the
committed
amount
of
exposure
so
going
in.
O
The
only
print
we're
doing
now
are
in
proven
city
markets,
dallas,
phoenix,
denver,
colorado
springs
and-
and
maybe
I
think,
actually
I
correct
that
in
texas-
we're
using
texas
monthly
because
it
hits
the
big
cities
austin,
dallas,
houston
and
fort
worth,
as
opposed
to
it,
would
be
more
expensive
to
go
into
these
specific
city
markets
of
of
those
four
and
austin
is:
is
a
booming
market
for
us
when
we
get
back
in
business.
G
Yeah
that
that's
actually
very
helpful
to
explain
that
explanation.
Remind
me
what
page
that
breakdown
that
you
just
described
was.
I
can't
find
it.
Do
you
remember
what
page
it
was
that
had
the
breakdown
of
what
went
to
their
like
creative.
O
Well
it
madam
chair
concert
viral
in
the
original
document.
It
was
page
three
of
that
contract.
I
don't
know
in
your.
I
don't
have
the
page
number
in
your
packet,
but
that
was
based.
G
Okay,
I'll
take
a
look
at
that.
I
think
that
was
actually
the
questions
I
had
about
that
particular
item,
because
the
breakdown
I
was
trying
to
understand
that
large
chunk
goes
to
them.
I
think
it's
actually
300.
What
is
it?
I
still
don't
see
it
on
that
page
for
some
reason,
what's
the
amount
for
the.
O
G
A
E
Yeah,
just
thank
you,
madam
chair,
mr
randall,
just
a
follow-up
on
where
counselor
via
real
was
going,
but
if
there's
a
chance
that
kovid
continues
and
we
don't
expect
visitors
for
half
of
next
year.
Does
the
contract
allow
us
to
save
on
that
1.3
million?
Or
is
it
going
to
be
spent
out.
O
Regardless
chair,
counselor,
rivera,
very
good
question,
the
commitment
to
them
on
on
their
fees
for
the
efforts
they're
putting
in
would
remain,
but
obviously
all
of
the
advertising.
If
we
don't,
if
we
don't
approve
the
expenditure
for
advertising,
it
won't
happen
so
about
a
million
of
that
million
three
is
is
flexible.
E
E
A
Okay,
all
right
motion
passes.
Thank
you
all
right,
so
we
are
down
on
the
presentations.
We
are
going
to
start
with
our
economic
development
director
rich
frown
on
the
santa
fe
promise
covet
19
campaign,
update.
N
F
P
P
Six
minute
presentation
overview
and
if
all
of
the
counselors,
as
we
would
very
much
like
to
have
your
input,
could
could
work
jot
down
their
ideas
and
then
maybe
we
can
dedicate
after
we
go
over
the
presentation
to
some
of
your
thoughts
and
introductions
of
how
we
can
improve
the
santa
fe
promise
and
the
outreach
that
we're
planning.
C
P
C
P
Okay,
so
santa
fe
promise
we're
going
into
a
second
phase
of
it
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
really
address
the
increase
in
coveted
cases,
especially
in
the
87507
zip
code,
but
first
I'll
just
go
over.
I'm
sorry.
So.
L
We
can
see
the
screen,
but
I'm
only
seeing
a
sliver.
Should
I
be
seeing
words.
Yes,
you
should
be
not.
P
P
L
Still
oversized
for
the
screen
now
we
are
seeing
text.
P
There
we
go.
It
looks
good
now
to
me,
okay,
excellent,
so,
first,
what
I'll
go
over
is
what
we
have
already
done.
So
what
have
we
done
at
the
moment
for
the
santa
fe
promise?
It's
really
been
this
very
cross-collaborative
team
effort.
It's
been
led
by
land
use
and
we've
been
supported
by
tourism
by
constituent
services
and
arts
and
parks,
arts,
sorry,
arts
and
the
parks
department,
as
well.
Primarily.
P
What
we
focus
on
previously
is
emergency
service
provided
mass,
so
we've
handed
out
about
at
the
18
700
free
mask
of
flyers.
The
flyers
consisted
of
the
santa
fe
promise,
20
000
rack
cards
that
also
consisted
of
the
promise
most
of
these
were
were
delivered
to
by
a
lot
of
our
partners.
P
Since
we've
been
working
closely
with
the
food
distribution
and
food
security
groups,
so
you'll
see
we
partnered
with
food
depot
kitchen
angels,
indian
center
world
central
kitchen,
and
then
we
also
made
them
available
at
the
libraries
at
the
tourism
center
and
as
well,
at
the
hispanic
chamber
of
commerce,
the
green
chamber
of
commerce
and
the
chamber
of
commerce.
And
then
we
personally
went
out
and
delivered
to
businesses
on
airport
road,
as
well
as
the
hotels
on
cerrillo's
road
and
the
hotels
and
the
restaurant
association
as
well.
P
Because
at
the
time
when
we
first
started
this,
we
were
very
much
concerned
about
people
coming
into
santa
fe
and
not
being
aware
of
of
our
values
and
how
we
are
approaching
kovid
from
there.
What
we
and
one
of
the
things
I
think
is
really
impressive
and
you'll
hear
a
little
bit
more
as
well
from
armenia,
is
that
we
managed
to
get
a
lot
of
pro
bono
work,
whether
it
was
radio,
whether
it's
digital,
whether
it's
from
santa
fe.com.
P
We
had
a
lot
of
local
people
who
helped
us
whether
it's
case
suave,
hunting,
media
ideas
and
people
who
helped
us
with
the
graphic
work
of
it
and
and
then
we
also
had
a
facebook
post
that
our
constituent
services
group
get
across
and
the
the
mayor
who
promoted
the
santa
fe
promise
as
well.
So
it
was
a
kind
of
a
cross
effort
between
making
sure
we
got
to
to
our
community
and
businesses
with
the
mass
and
with
the
promise.
P
What
we've
seen
is
in
the
spike,
and
specifically
we
we
spoke
with
the
new
mexico
department
of
health,
one
of
the
things
that
we
saw.
They
had
a
map.
I
can't
get
the
map
because
it's
not
public
access,
but
where
we
saw
big
spike
were
87507
and
87505.
P
We
specifically
looked
with
them
at
the
87507
area,
which
was
aguafria
village
and
surrounding
areas
and
what
they
told
us
was
well.
First,
we
had
looked
at
it
as
we'd
known,
there's
a
spike,
we
kind
of
looked
at.
What's
the
makeup?
What's
the
demographics,
I
won't
go
into
the
demographics,
but
I
think
that
what
we
saw
with
the
new
mexico
department
of
health
very
much
very
much
confirmed
what
we
would
see
even
before
covet
and
what
it
is
is
that
we
have
a
high
vulnerability
index
in
87507
when
we
have
a
high
vulnerability
index.
P
This
means
not
only
for
covid
but
any
kind
of
natural
disaster.
Any
economic
disaster
would
particularly
impact
this
community
and
it's
because
of
certain
things,
certain
qualities
that
they
have,
that
that
that
would
make
them
higher
vulnerab
more
vulnerable.
So
some
of
the
things
I'll
speak
to
are
the
qualities
that
the
new
mexico
department
of
health
went
over,
which
was
one
we
have
a
lot
of
spanish
speakers.
A
lot
of
the
coveted
information
is
predominantly
in
english.
P
There
are
high
levels
of
poverty,
we're
talking
about
people
who
use
public
transportation,
who
may
not
have
very
many
cars.
P
I
think
we
also
not
want
cars,
maybe
even
one
car,
so
so
that
also
means
that
you
don't
necessarily
have
the
access
to
different
things,
and
I
think
that
we've
heard
that
as
well
from
our
food
security
partners,
where
they're
saying
you
know,
sometimes
people
stop
coming
because,
as
you
were
restricted
in
terms
of
budget,
you
may
not
have
been
wanting
to
pay
the
gas
pay,
the
bills
on
the
car,
and
so
you
stop
necessarily
going
out
to
some
of
the
food
banks
that
were
offered.
P
But
we
also
see
is
that
some
of
the
populations
that
are
most
vulnerable
either
people
who
are
over
the
age
of
65
or
under
the
age
of
18
or
people
with
disabilities
tended
to
be
in
this
area.
We
have
families
that
are
intergenerational
that
are
living
in
close
proximity.
This
close
proximity,
this
density,
it
really
accelerates
with
covid
the
contagion
rate.
P
I
think
what
we've
also
be
seeing
is
the
crowding,
because
this
is
predominantly
in
apartments
and
mobile
homes,
in
nursing
homes,
in
densely
populated
areas,
and
so
people
don't
necessarily
have
the
resources
as
well
or
the
knowledge
on
quarantine.
And
the
biggest
thing
is
obviously
because
of
the
levels
of
poverty
is
the
lack
of
resources.
P
What
are
the
implications
for
us
in
this?
We
have
lack
of
access
to
unemployment,
no
place
to
quarantine
for
people.
We
have
lack
of
broadband
access,
so
for
us
with
some
of
the
learnings
that
we
took
home
are
that
we
needed
to
be
much
more
culturally
relevant
in
our
messaging,
something
visual
and
we
need
to
provide
educational
material
in
terms
of
the
levels
of
poverty.
P
The
services,
services
and
information
should
really
be
brought
to
them,
and
we
need
to
also
think
about
targeting
the
areas
where
young
people
might
be,
and
so
we
need
to
think
of
what
kinds
of
things
that
we
can
do
to
reach
out
to
young
people
and
and
because
of
the
crowding
and
the
areas
that
we're
talking
about.
P
P
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
them,
as
I
think
one
of
the
key
things
that
we're
proposing
is:
how
can
we
work
with
our
local
community
organizations
and
hear
directly
from
the
people
who
are
affected
and
perhaps
conduct
focus
groups
with
them
so
that
they
can
give
us
a
better
idea,
as
opposed
to
us
talking
or
us
deciding
solutions
for
them
them
telling
us
what
some
of
the
solutions
that
are
have,
but
nonetheless
we
do
want
to
take
action.
So
we
have.
P
We
have
we've
developed
a
plan
and
our
plan
really
takes
into
consideration,
and
especially
with
the
focus
groups
is,
do
we
need
to
start
generating
greater
equity
and
need
to
think
of
these
areas
of
how
do
we
get
them
into
on
the
same
level
as
in
the
same
resources
that
you
might
have
if
you
were
more
of
a
middle
class
family,
so
our
communication
objectives
overall?
Is
we
want
to
educate
people?
We
want
to
continue
generating
awareness
of
the
promise.
We
want
to
define
what
it
means
to
do.
P
P
One
of
the
big
things
we
want
to
do
is
make
sure
people
are
doing
contract
chasing
so
they'll
doubt
we
want
to
promote
the
the
novid
app
and,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
collaborate
with
our
local
community
groups
and
if
we
find
the
funding
eli
helped
us
apply
for
the
nm,
cares
act
funding,
and
so
he
put
a
proposal
forward
and
if
we
get
that
funding,
I
think
that
this
can
help
us
with
engaging
local
groups
and
paying
them
to
help
us
both
figure
out
what
the
communities
need
and
how
do
we
get
to
them.
P
So
some
of
the
things
ideas
that
you'll
see
in
the
walk
in
the
run
phase
they're
not
necessarily
going
to
be
executed,
but
we
will
start
looking
at
what
the
prices
are
and
hopefully,
if
we
get
the
cares
act
fund,
we
will
be
able
to
implement
them.
P
The
crawl
part
is:
what
can
we
do
immediately
and
and
at
the
moment,
so
we
have
the
idea
of
bilingual
lawn
signs
or
we'll
be
putting
those
out
at
the
mobile
parks
and
apartment
homes
for
the
novid
app
both
in
english,
then
in
spanish,
targeted
facebook
ads
when
we
spoke
with
george
carrasco
of
youth
services,
one
of
the
things
that
he
said
is
that
facebook
is
maybe
not
having
broadband,
but
people
might
have
access
on
their
mobile
home
on
their
mobile
phones.
P
So
we'll
develop
a
plan
to
promote
some
of
the
key
programs,
the
promise
the
novid
app
the
connect
promat
pro
connect
program
in
facebook
ads
as
well
as
miss
it
maybe
on
facebook
bulletin
boards.
I
think
we
could
also
bring
in
a
guest
speaker
to
speak
with
mayor
weber,
maybe
somebody
from
la
familia.
P
Then
we
can
go
so
this
is
a
overview
of
what
some
of
the
flyers
and
the
facebook
ads
might
look
like,
but
of
course
it
would
be
in
spanish,
bilingual
novid
flyers.
Again,
we've
already
started
handing
some
of
these
out
with
some
of
our
partners
that
we've
used,
particularly
the
food
security
partners,
and
then
here
or
many
is
going
to
speak
to
a
really
exciting
program.
Q
Madam
chair
committee,
members,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
for
this
time
to
present
an
update
on
our
current
project.
Arts
and
culture
is
working
with
mountain
mover
media
to
produce
a
public
service
announcement
or
a
psa
video
in
response
to
copa19
and
based
on
the
city's.
I
promise
campaign
to
encourage
residents
and
also
visitors
to
use
safety
practices,
while
out
in
the
community
and
engaging
with
others,
including
multi-general
households
and
just
csp
tips
for
keeping
families
safe,
trying
to
remind
them
about
your.
Q
You
know,
abuela,
who
may
be
living
with
you
or
in
close
proximity
and
how
to
keep
them
safe.
Our
target
audience
is
santa
fe
city
and
county
residents.
Q
Q
Q
This
will
be
filmed
at
six
locations
within
the
city
limits,
including
local
businesses
and
parks.
Shooting
is
currently
taking
place
this
week,
so
the
week
of
august
17th
through
the
21st.
P
Thank
you,
armenia,
and
I
think,
if
we
decide
to
get
one
of
the
amazing
things
about
what
the
arts
and
culture
group
did
was
get
donations
from
the
century
bank
and
then
they
matched
that
and
hopefully,
if
we
get
the
karazhak
funding,
we'll
be
able
to
expand
on
this
program
and
we
think
it'll
be
particularly
culturally
relevant.
P
So
from
there
we're
going
to
go
into
the
walk
phase,
which
at
the
moment
it
will
not
necessarily
be
implemented
in
two
weeks,
but
in
two
weeks
we
will
start
going
forward
with
it.
So
some
of
the
ideas
is
really
create
this
task
force,
as
I
mentioned,
of
local
group
leaders
and
how
we
can
renumerate
them
for
them
to
conduct
a
focus
group.
Maybe
give
us
a
flash
report
on
what
kind
of
messaging
that
we
should
be
elaborating.
P
Another
idea
is
just
simply
taking
the
information
that
already
exists
with
the
new
mexico
department
of
health.
It
doesn't
exist
in
spanish,
but
we
would
like
to
create
kits
that
maybe
have
the
face,
mask
the
connect
program
disinfectants
and
go
out
to
the
mobile
parks
and
canvas
the
areas
again,
hopefully
with
the
help
of
our
our
local
groups.
Community
groups,
email
packets.
P
So
if
we
actually
do
create
these
packets,
then
maybe
what
we
can
do
is
then
have
an
email,
pdf
version
that
other
people
might
be
able
to
share
the
counselors
might
be
able
to
share
with
their
constituents.
Maybe
local
local
groups.
We
can
reach
out
to
tara
contenta
for
their
email
group
as
well
from
there
one
of
the
things.
As
I
said,
we
need
to
target
youth
so
signage
and
parks.
As
you
can
see,
there's
an
image
here,
john
munoz
did
over
at
alto
park.
P
We
would
like
to
do
that
specifically
with
with
parks
that
are
much
more
in
that
area,
as
well
as
putting
posters
over
there
in
in
the
park
areas
to
really
promote
the
distancing
and
to
encourage
distancing
visually
one
of
the
things
that
we've
also
said
is.
Maybe
we
could
leverage
our
utility.
We
can
put
a
a
message
on
that
and
the
utilities
bill
the
department
of
health
and
transportation.
Sometimes
what
we
see
are
those
big
signs
with
their
much
more
with
electric
signs.
P
Maybe
we
can
clean
magnetic
signs
to
go
on
city
vehicles
that
we
would
put
as
well,
and
so
some
of
these,
as
you
can
see,
we
don't
have
these
costs
or
the
timings
quite
yet
and
again,
because
these
are
only
just
initial
ideas:
the
third
week,
which
would
be
run
and
also
we
would
be
asking
the
groups,
the
community
groups
to
be
meeting
on
a
regular
basis,
similar
to
what
we've
done
with
our
food
security
groups
and
then
run
the
at
the
three
week
point
we
would
start
maybe
we'd
have,
and
what
we've
done
in
the
past
is
we've
done
webinars
with
somos.
P
So
I
think
we
would
brainstorm
with
them.
They're
15
minutes,
webinars
that
we
do
via
facebook,
and
they
also
have
a
radio
program
that
we
might
be
able
to
use
for
outreach
and
we'd
see
from
the
focus
groups.
P
What
would
be
the
most
relevant
topics
to
really
do
the
webinars
on
bus
advertising
again,
we'd
have
to
look
at
what
the
cost
would
be
and
if
we
could
target
them
for
that
specific
area,
then
some
of
the
other
ideas
that
have
come
up
is
text
messaging
and
maybe
getting
text
messages
using
phone
banks.
P
Somos
has
a
strong
phone
bank
system
and
if
we
would
have
alerts
for
people
to
sign
up
for
different
things
and
once
we
get
further
into
it,
and
I
think
because
of
the
lack
of
resources
that
we
speak
about
there,
we
might
want
to
bring
things
to
them.
So
whether
we
ask
the
food
depot,
how
can
we
bring
the
food
to
people?
Do
we
need
to
bring
covered
testing
to
people
so
moses
had
some
ex
success
doing
that?
P
Do
we
need
to
provide
child
care
services
grocery
delivery?
Is
there
some
way
and
we
need
to
provide
the
information
to?
What
do
you
do
to
quarantine?
And
if
somebody
is
something
happens
again,
that's
really
the
new
mexico
department
of
health
information
that
I
think
we
can
turn
into
a
booklet
and
again
as
armenia.
I
spoke
about
carlos
medina,
I
think
that's
particularly
relevant
and
and
we
would
look
to
to
expand
his
services
if
we
got
the
funding
and
I
will
stand
for
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Great,
thank
you
for
that
and
you
you.
You
moved
right
through
it.
Counselor
cassette
sanchez.
You
have
your
hand
up.
L
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
so
much
liz
for
that
presentation.
I
had
a
couple
questions
about
well.
First
of
all,
I'm
really
happy
to
see
a
lot
more
materials
in
spanish.
That
has
been
a
need
that
we
have,
I
mean
even
prior
to
kobit
that
we
really
have
not
been
meeting.
L
So
I'm
glad
to
see
that
we
are
doing
it
here
and
I
hope
that
we
not.
I
hope
we
need
to
keep
doing
this
beyond
just
covid
in
general.
This
needs
to
be
something
that
we
move
into.
I
know
that
we
had
a
lot
of
conversation
with
this
during
not
a
lot,
but
we
did
discuss
this
during
our
budget
hearings
and
identifying
funding
sources
for
interpretation
and
translation,
but
so
thank
you
for
moving
forward
with
this.
L
You
had
mentioned
the
87507
zip
code,
which
is
a
pretty
large,
zip
code.
I
know
it
covers
both
my
district
and
council
roberta's
district,
and
I
know
you
mentioned
aguafria
village,
which
is
you
know
a
small
section
of
it.
Did
they
dial
down
into
census
tracts
in
order
to
be
looking
at
where
they're
seeing
hot
spots,
or
were
we
really
just
looking
at
the
zip
code.
P
They
did
not
dial
into
specific,
I
think
agua
fear
village
was
as
specific
as
they
got.
We
can
definitely
do
a
follow-up
with
the
department
of
health.
I
think
that
the
the
one
thing
the
difference
between
the
505
area,
which
wasn't
necessarily
as
as
as
as
spiking
as
quickly,
but
it
is
also
spiking,
is
that
the
87507
is
much
more
of
the
vulnerable
communities
and
I
think
for
us,
though,
the
work
that
we
want
to
do
and-
and
maybe
this
is
the
beginning-
and
hopefully
with
the
focus
groups.
P
We
will
also
learn
not
only
how
it
is
that
we
can
do
for
covid,
but
in
the
future,
because
they're
vulnerable
for
all
sorts
of
future
occurrences.
That
could
happen,
as
I
mentioned,
yeah
absolutely
until
I
worked
with
the
department
of
health
and
they
were
like
yeah,
I
don't
you
don't
realize
like
this
is
not
just
like
now
that
they're
vulnerable.
This
is
vulnerable
at
any
moment,
the
first,
who
are
going
to
be
the
most
susceptible.
P
L
Anything.
Yes,
that's
absolutely
true!
That's
why
I
was
curious
about
the
census
tracts,
because
I
know
you
know
you
were
discussing
a
lot
of
the
mobile
homes
and
the
large
apartment
complexes
which
aren't.
L
I
do
have
some
in
my
district,
but
that
I
know
that
I
also
have
a
large
number
of
individuals
that
have
been
challenged
by
covid
that
are
not
specifically
in
the
mobile
homes,
not
specifically
in
the
large
apartment
complexes,
especially
some
families
that
have
you
know
older
individuals
that
had
bought
their
house
a
long
time
ago
and
are
still
there
and
are
you
know,
really
experiencing
a
lot
of
challenges
and
there's
a
lot
of
the
intergenerational
who
maybe
aren't
necessarily
living
in
the
same
house
but
who
are
seeing
their
children.
L
So
that's
why
I
was
curious
if,
if
the
state
they
very
well
may
have
that
data
dialed
down
even
further,
and
so
that
just
might
would
be
something
that
I
would
ask
to
take
a
look
at,
especially
as
we
are
looking
at
how
exactly
we
target
where,
where
is
going
to
be
the
most
bang
for
our
buck.
I
think
that
that
would
be
important
well.
P
I
would
definitely
look
at
it
and
ask
the
department
of
health
to
look
at
it
via
census
tracts,
and
I
think
that
the
main
point
they
made
is
to
target
the
vulnerable
communities
and
those
dense
areas,
the
apartment,
buildings
and
the
mobile
homes.
So
at
the
moment,
that's
where
we'll
definitely
start
off,
and
I
think
we
can
expand
from
there.
L
Okay,
okay,
wonderful
yeah,
I'm
sure
doh
knows
knows
where
to
where
to
be
putting
all
the
energy,
and
then
you
had
mentioned
that
there
wasn't
as
much
knowledge
on
quarantine
was
that
measured?
Is
that
how
we,
how
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that
these
individuals
do
not
have
the
knowledge
on
quarantine,
because
what
I
have
found
a
lot
is
that
you
know
doing
this
doing
work
in
public
health
that
there's
often
this
initial
push
for,
let's
provide
education
on
health,
and
you
start
them.
People
say
yeah
yeah
we
get
it.
L
We
understand
that
we
should
eat
fruits
and
vegetables,
but
how
am
I
supposed
to
afford
them?
And
so
there's
often
these
much
larger
structural
issues.
So
I'm
curious
about
the
quarantine
piece
too
because,
as
you
mentioned,
there's
a
lot
of
other
pieces.
Besides
just
the
knowledge
of
what
quarantine
looks
like
so
I
was
curious
if
that
was
measured
and
that's
why
we
noticed
that
that
is
a
something
that
we're
concerned
about.
P
No,
it's
not
just
it's
not
measured
at
the
moment.
I
think
that
is
actually
just
something.
That's
that's
that's
speculative,
which
is
why
I
put
the
speculations
on
the
covet
and
I
really
think
that
we
want
to
speak
to
the
communities
and
get
the
input
so
that
we
understand
that.
I
think
that's
just
a
notion
that
we
have,
and
I
think
that
the
beta,
the
what
we
do
know
that
is
measurable
is
when
you
have
intergenerational
families
living
in
a
small
space.
You
may
not
have
the
means
of
where
to
quarantine.
P
So
when
we
speak
about
quarantine,
it's
where,
where
can
you
go
or
where
would
someone
go
for
quarantine
or
and
also
for
us
to
understand?
If
there
are
barriers
of
people
saying
I
don't
want
to
quarantine,
I
don't
want
to
be
away
from
my
family,
in
which
case,
then,
how
can
we
reverse
those
or
how
do
we?
How
can
we
supplement
that
knowledge
again
pending
on
the
funding.
L
Right,
yeah,
that's
actually
something
I
do
want
to
be
very
cautious
of
is
I
I
see
this
a
lot
in
this
type
of
work.
Is
we
kind
of
we
move
into
vulnerable
populations
and
there's
this
misconception
that
the
knowledge
is
missing
when
really
the
resources
are
what's
missing,
and
so
I
think
that
that'll
be
a
really
important
question
of
what
resources
do
you
need
to
quarantine,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
not
missed.
So
thank
you.
You
mentioned
canvassing.
L
Is
that
safe
right
now
and
and
how
would
we
do
it
in
a
safe
manner?
Considering
we
don't?
I
mean,
I
know
it's
usually
outside
very
you
know,
minimal
contact,
but
I'd
be
curious
about
what
the
plan
for
canvassing
would
be.
That
would
be
safe
for
both
the
individuals
that
we'd
be
interacting
with,
as
well
as
safer
staff.
That
would
be.
P
Canvassing
agreed,
I
think
at
the
moment,
so
what
we
did
was
with
the
businesses
is
just
put
bags,
and
so
we
would
just
be
it's
not
a
door
knocker
exactly,
but
the
idea
would
be
to
put
door
up
to
create
bags
in
these
kits
that
we
could
deliver
that
handbook
in
if
we
could
get
the
free
mass
if
we
get
the
disinfected
and
that
would
be
kind
of
like
the
first,
the
low
hanging
fruit,
although
it's
not
that
low,
it
still
requires
a
lot
of
effort
and
also,
I
think,
as
I
mentioned
so
going
up
next
week,
we
would
speak
to
our
partner,
our
community
partners
and
if
they
felt
comfortable,
we
would
then
think
of
like.
P
Is
there
a
skip
of
work?
I
do
know
that
there
are
groups
at
the
moment
who
are
going
out
and
doing
canvassing
and
would
like
to
to
partner
with
us.
L
Okay,
wonderful,
that's
that's
good
to
hear.
I
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
safety
pieces
there
and,
as
you
mentioned
the
partners.
I
know
this
was
discussed
earlier,
but
you
know
there's
places
that
people
are
already
going,
that
they're
having
contact
and
if
we
can
minimize
contact
by
utilizing
those
places,
it's
already
helpful.
So
people
are
going
to
the
food
bank,
for
example,
and
doing
the
pickups.
L
If
we
can,
you
know
be
putting
those
kits
there
or
as
partnering
with
the
schools
and
the
work
that
they're
doing
to
make
sure
that
they're
getting
resources
to
their
students
again.
Just
how?
How
do
we
minimize
the
contacts
in
general
is
important
but
glad
to
hear
that
it's
more
of
a
door
hang
as
opposed
to
a
knock
and
talk.
P
P
If
that,
if
that
results,
which
rich
will
talk
more
about
that,
then
we
would
probably
also
leverage
kind
of
that
dual
like
if,
if
something's
already
there
as
a
resource
that
we're
providing
then
as
a
time
and
also
partner
with
our
food
security
groups
that
if
they
decide
that
they
will
deliver
to
to
these
areas,
then
that
can
also
be
a
double
up.
Can
you
also
give
the
kits
out.
L
Great
good,
thank
you,
and
then
you
had
a
slide
that
says:
does
the
city
need
to
do
more
for
to
generate
equity?
I
would
say
that
the
question
is
not
does,
but
how,
because
we
know
that
the
answer
is
yes,
so
as
we're
thinking
about
those
focus
groups,
yes,
we
definitely
need
to
be
generating
more
equity
across
our
city,
and
really
that
question
is,
is
how
so
again
really
important
thinking
about.
L
You
know
that,
there's
that
there
is
this
piece
of
knowledge,
I'm
really
glad
that
we
are
looking
at
this.
I
think
that
these
are
really
important
conversations
to
be
talking
about
equity,
both
in
times
of
covid,
but
as
you,
you
know
so
aptly
mentioned
that
these
are
already
individuals
that,
in
any
situation,
even
in
in
regular
life,
that
there
is
always
you
know,
one
emergency
away
from
complete
and
total
disaster.
L
So
I
really
look
forward
to
hearing
more
about
those
focus
groups
and
really
hearing
what
people
are
saying
they
are
in
need
of
and
how
we
can
be
creating
more
equity
across
our
city,
and
then
you
mentioned
digital
ads.
I
was
curious
what
the
age
that
we
are
targeting
for
the
digital
ads
you
mentioned.
H
Facebook,
yes,
so
we
can
target
the
area
and
the
the
zip
code
as
well
as
we
decided
13.
P
To
65,
plus
los
milagros,
santa
fe
and
three
miles,
which
should
have
a
reach
of
about
a
876
to
2.5
000
people
when
you
buy
the
facebook
ads
you
until
you
reach
that
goal,
the
facebook
ads
will
continue
going.
So
you
said
third,
did
you
and.
P
L
Told
by
my
very
much
younger
cooler
cousins
that
facebook
is
for
old
people,
so
if
we
are
targeting,
if
we
want
to
target
13
to
18,
I
know
that
there
is
a
lot
of
research
about
what
social
media
platforms
are
better
for
that,
and
I
am
not
the
person
to
spout
those
out
and
have
any
knowledge
about
them.
L
But
I
think
that
the
consensus
has
been
that
facebook
is
where
the
old
people
are,
and
so,
if
we're
targeting
teenagers,
that
is
not
the
group,
if
you
guys,
when
we
get
the
marriage
youth
advisory
board
running
again,
if
you
guys
want
to
speak
with
them
about
how
to
how
to
reach
out
to
their
peers,
I
would
be
happy
to
help
facilitate
that
conversation.
Apparently,
facebook
is
not
cool,
so
it's.
P
A
P
A
Liz,
so
instagram,
I
think,
is-
is
cool
with
the
the
younger
set,
but
it's
also
owned
by
facebook.
So
when
you
buy
facebook
ads,
are
you
do
you
have?
Do
you
have
to
buy
ads
for
instagram
or
because
you're
paying
facebook?
Do
they
decide?
Which
platform
do
you
have?
I
don't
know
anything
about
that.
That
just
shows
how.
P
So
sometimes
what
you
can
do,
madam
chair,
is,
is,
if
you
have
one
and
then
it
can
pull
you
have
you
can
post
in
multiple
places,
even
though
you
might
be
doing
it
specifically
for
facebook?
It
can
then
also
go
to
your
other
accounts,
whether
it's
your
instagram
account,
whether
it's
a
tweet
message
and
it
formats
it
to
those
specific
ones.
So
I
can
definitely
see
with
or
look
more
in
depth
with
our
constituent
services
group
that
manages
our
our
social
media.
A
Great
councilor,
casa
sanchez,
you
still
have
this
floor.
Yeah.
L
I
did
sorry
my
child
is
upset,
but
I
think
those
are
all
my
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you.
L
I
know
that
this
is
such
a
it's,
a
new
frontier
for
you
guys
to
be
taking
this
on,
and
I
think
it's
really
exciting
and
you
guys
are
doing
a
great
job,
and
so
thank
you
so
much
for
this,
and
I
I
actually
think
that
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
knowledge
that
we
learned
that
we'll
be
able
to
see
a
lot
more
collaboration,
as
we
were
talking
about
earlier
between
kind
of
our
traditional
public
health
sectors
and
how
it
intersects
with
economic
development.
L
G
Great
counselor
councilwoman
vrael.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
to
staff
for
presenting
the
update,
it's
exciting,
to
see
what
you're
thinking
about
and
reframing
things.
I
like
that.
You
acknowledge
that
the
santa
fe
promise
and
moving
in
the
more
spanish
focused
spanish-speaking
focus
population
that
totally
makes
sense
to
me.
G
I
think
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
we
had
even
at
the
state
level
we
had
some
fits
and
starts
of
not
really
getting
out
the
information
about
what
was
happening
with
the
pandemic
and
the
restrictions,
and
none
of
it
was
in
spanish
and
they
finally
adjusted
that
at
the
state
level,
with
the
governor
having
the
interpretation
happening
happening
simultaneously
when
they
did
the
press
releases
or
the
press
conferences.
So
I
think
that
was
good
and
I
love
the
idea
of
carlos
medina
doing
psas.
G
G
I
know
about
the
clouds,
the
social
distance,
creative
markers
for
the
clouds,
and
you
said
skulls,
but
I'm
assuming
it's
like
calaveras
versus
skull
and
bones.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
P
Counselor
via
rail,
I'm
not
sure
what
john
munoz
has
settled
upon.
Yet
it
could
be
basketballs.
It
could
be
soccer
balls,
it
could
be,
but
the
point
is
to
be
out
in
the
parks
and
to
get
the
messaging
out
there
to
young
people.
Obviously,
if
we
get
any
of
the
material
and
the
funds
for
carlos
medina,
so
we
can
do
appropriate
messaging
with
that
theme.
That
would
be
even
more
ideal
for
us
right.
So,
yes,
we
make
calaveras.
G
Because
skull
and
bones
probably
wouldn't
be
good
for
in
this
case
for
pandemic,
just
saying
I
like
the
cloud
idea
that
we
I
haven't
seen
any
yet
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
seeing
how
that's
going
to
work
and
then
the
test
the
text
messaging.
I
think
we
really
need
to
expound
on
how
that
can
work.
For
us.
G
As
a
city
I
mean
we
use
it
for
our
emergency
notifications
and
for
rex
none
of
it's
in
spanish,
although
maybe
there's
a
way
to
I
actually
that's
a
question
for
I'm
not
sure
who
maybe
for
emergency
management.
I
don't
know
if
those
messages
come
in
come
out
in
spanish
when
we
have
emergency
notifications
on
our
system,
our
tech
system.
So
it
would
be
good
to
see
if
that
for
one
they
come
out
in
spanish
and
two.
G
If
we
could
utilize
that
test
text
messaging
for
any
like
updates
on
kovid,
I
haven't
really
seen
anything
yet.
So
I
think
that
would
be
good.
Somos
pueblo
nido
does
a
remarkable
job
with
the
use
of
text
messaging.
They
have
it
down
to
a
science
I
feel
like,
and
people
respond
quickly.
They
know
when
there's
going
to
be
announcements.
G
They
know
about
the
testing,
so
almost
got
about
150
people
this
weekend
to
get
tested,
and
then
we
had
our
own
testing
option
option
for
our
city's
staff,
and
I
heard
it
wasn't
like
very
it
wasn't
a
great
turnout,
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
make
it
less.
I
don't
know
that
I
think
there's
somewhat
of
a
shame
factor
that
people
don't
want
to
get
tested
for
some
reason
because
they
feel
like
they
haven't
been
responsible
and
that's
not
really
the
case,
because
people
that
are
being
careful
are
still.
G
You
know:
testing
positive
and
they're,
also
working
in
environments
as
essential
workers
that
they
don't
have
complete
control
over.
So
I'm
just
curious
just
throwing
this
out
there
about
ways
we
could
do
better
about
testing
and
if
we
are
planning
on
doing
any
testing
city
sponsored
testing.
Do
you
all
know
if
we
are
councillor
viral,
as
I.
P
P
We
don't
know
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
find
out
from
people
and
and
and
maybe
it's
not
a
city-sponsored
activity
if
the
best
way
to
go
about
it
and
the
people
who
have
and
if,
if
people
have
more
trust
in
somos
or
if
they
have
more
trust
in
the
local
organizations
or
we,
we
are
happy
to
capitalize
on
that
and
really
use
them,
as
opposed
to
necessarily
us
who
may
not
have
as
much
experience.
And
so
that's
why
we'd
want
to
reach
out
to
the
different
groups.
G
Yeah,
I
think
that
makes
sense
and
utilizing
our
partners
that
already
have
that
that
trust
with
the
community
members
and
their
and
their
constituencies-
and
I
actually
do
like
the
idea
of
canvassing-
if
we
do
it
right
going
door
to
door
and
actually
talking
to
people
and
doing
it
from
a
distance.
There
were
some
people
trying
to
sell
solar
around
town
in
my
neighborhood.
G
They
didn't
wear
masks,
they
didn't
have
any
information
to
prove
who
they
are,
and
I
was
just
like
you
guys
got
to
leave
this
neighborhood
because
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
people
what
they're
doing
if
we
had
a
canvassing
effort
that
had
like
either
partners
that
we
work
with
or
even
ways
to
show
that
we're
from
the
city
and
shirts
and
then
the
bags
and
distributions
actually
say
what
that
it's
coming
from
the
city.
I
don't
think
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
P
Comes
to
viral,
I
think
you
make
an
excellent
point.
I
didn't
even
think
about
the
badges,
so
I
think
that's
actually
then
again
something
that
we
would
want
to
partner
with
the
different
community
partners
who
have
more
experience
on
this.
So
that
would
be
and
they
have
a
great
deal
more
expertise,
and
I
think
that
we
would
expand
our
knowledge
by
working
with.
G
Them
totally,
I
think,
that's
good
and
then
the
last
point
I
was
gonna
ask
about.
I
I
like
the
idea
of
the
novid
app-
and
I
was
talking
to
jennifer
about
this
earlier
today
and
the
idea
is
cool
and
I'm
like
all
right.
Let's
see
how
this
works,
but
I
think
it's
only.
We
talked
about
this
and
it's
only
as
good
as
the
people
reporting
that
have
tested
positive.
So
it's
not
like
it
goes
into
some
kind
of
database
and
you
actually
know
who's
around.
G
Do
you
all
have
any
more
information
about
how
that's
going
to
be
not
just
relevant,
but
that
it
will
actually
be
helpful
for
contract
contact
tracing
because
it's
only
like,
I
said
it's
only
as
good
as
people
actually
reporting.
Self-Reporting,
so
do
you
have
any
more
info
on
that.
N
N
Thank
you.
I
can
take
that
question
so
so
there
are
a
couple
ways
that
we're
figuring
out
how
to
do
it
so
with
the
novit
app
you
can
actually
anonymously
go,
get
tested
and
then
the
testing
site
we're
kind
of
working
with
the
county.
It's
work
in
progress,
but
working
with
the
county
and
doh
you'll
actually
get
a
a
confirmation
number
and
you
just
put
it
into
the
system.
N
If
you're
positive,
no
one
will
ever
know
that
you're
you're
you're
tested
positive,
but
you
just
put
the
put
it
into
the
system
and
it'll
it'll
then
track
you
anonymously.
As
this
person
is
positive
in
your
area
and
nobody
will
tell
you
one
how
many
degrees
of
separation
you
are
from
that
person,
who's
positive
when
that
happened,
and
then
you'll
have
your
own
little
dashboard.
That
says
on
this
date.
You
were
in
this
space
and
you
know
six
degrees
of
separation
from
you.
N
Someone
test
was
positive
and
the
same
time
we're
trying
to
get
nova
to
work
with
the
county,
because
county
does
get
stats
and
the
county
could
actually
download
those
stats
anonymously
using
special
numbers
into
the
system.
Already
one
thing
about
nova
app
is
that
it
doesn't
need
to
be
a
hundred
percent
participation.
It
could
really
be
ten
percent
or
well.
Actually,
we
want
ten
to
twenty
percent.
N
It
just
gives
a
sense
of
a
critical
mass
that
shows
what's
happening
and
it
becomes
viral
after
that
point
because
you
see
how
active
it
is
if
you're
out
and
about
you
can
see
kind
of
what's
happening,
and
I
tell
people
it's
kind
of
like
an
early
morn
early
warning,
storm
radar.
So
it
basically
just
tells
you
you
know
you're
you're
now
in
a
radar
system
where
there
are
thunder
clouds
ahead
and
you
need
to
be
prepared,
and
so
that's
kind
of
what
the
novit
app
does
on
the
back
end.
G
Good,
that's
good
to
know,
because
I
always
kept
thinking
if,
if
a
person
were
to
test
positive
and
they're
having
to
go
through
that
process,
I
that
would
be
the
last
thing
to
think
about.
Like
oh,
I
need
to
download
this
app
and
tell
people
I've
tested
positive.
I
mean
in
the
system
with
your
number,
but
still
just
like
the
fact
that
you
said
they're
able
to
do
it
anonymously
through
doh
sounds
more
realistic
to
me.
G
So
thanks
for
the
the
information
on
that-
and
I
guess
just
wanted
to
echo
what
my
colleague
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez
was
saying
and
how
important
the
equity
piece
is
and
and
it's
and
the
pandemic
is
really
exacerbating
the
inequities
that
already
exist
in
our
community
today
and
have
been
so
it's
just
another
reminder
that
we
need
to
do
better
and
now,
with
the
pandemic,
we
have
to
work
even
much
that
much
harder
to
be
able
to
reach
the
communities
that
are
typically
and
historically
underserved.
A
Great,
I
think,
that's
all
the
questions
the
committee
has
on
this
item.
Thank
you,
liz
for
the
presentation
and
and
being
here
tonight
and
sitting
through
our
meeting
to
get
to
your
moment
rich.
I
believe
you
are
going
to
talk
to
us
about
a
very
important
topic
as
well
having
to
do
with
broadband
access
and
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
which
is
becoming
it,
was
relevant
and
is
becoming
more
and
more
relevant,
as
we
all
spend
more
time
at
home
and
on
our
devices.
N
Thank
you
very
much,
my
chair
and
council.
I
hope
you
can
see
my
screen
so
so
I
I
know
we're
at
the
time
point
and
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
your
time
and
I
I
have
a
couple
slides
just
to
talk
about
current
state.
What
we're
doing
in
sort
of
our
phase
two
and
then
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
were
submitted
and
then
be
open
to
any
questions
around
broadband.
N
So
just
like
our
our
novit
and
our
santa
fe
promise,
the
broadband
initiative
has
been
going
on,
but
once
the
pandemic
hit,
we
started
to
put
activities
in
place
to
sort
of
build
some
equity
build
some
access
to
those
who
didn't
have
access
to
brought
in
an
internet
and
sort
of
bridging
that
digital
divide
and
we're
trying
to
get
it
so
that
by
the
time
school
start,
people
who
were
either
going
to
school
or
people
who
were
looking
for
jobs
had
a
place.
N
So
this
is
what
we
currently
know
and
the
recently
there
was
a
science
technology
and
communicate
telecommunications
committee
meeting
with
the
senate
just
this
past
week,
and
so
they
were
saying
between
13
and
12
20
of
new
mexico's
homes
do
not
have
broadband
access,
and
then
we
lag
behind
the
nation.
N
You
know
right
now:
new
mexico
is
at
77
percent,
I'm
trying
to
get
that
figure
locally
and
and
the
county
standpoint
so
that
you
can
get
a
sense
of
the
data
so
the
next
time
I
talk
about
our
update,
I'm
hoping
to
have
a
little
bit
more
detail,
some
of
the
goals
and
objectives
we
have.
As
I
said,
broadband
and
the
initiative
has
been
around
for
a
while,
but
as
epidemic
hit,
we
sort
of
pivoted
to
how
do
we
address.
N
I
also
now
think
of
as
a
term
determine
of
health
is
having
access
to
digital
and
broadband
access.
So
we've
been
partnering
with
the
schools
to
launch
our
wi-fi
spots
and
thank
you
for
your
vote
to
get
that
out
there.
They
are
now
up
in
ten
locations
and
then
we're
also
working
with
our
community
partners.
Addressing
some
digital
divide
issues
in
the
south
side
locations,
mostly
in
districts
three
and
four
and
we're
trying
to
after
that
build
kind
of
a
post-covet
network.
N
We
see
a
couple
places
where
there
is
some
low
spots:
the
east
side
there's
some
hillside
in
the
east,
hillside
areas
that
don't
have
any
really
good
broadband
and
so
in
the
midterm.
We
try
to
figure
out
how
to
do
some
point-to-point
networking
to
get
some
broadband
out
there,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
working
remote
and
I
do
get
some
anecdotally.
I
get
phone
calls
from
people
saying.
N
Can
you
help
me
because
my
comcast
it
keeps
pushing
out
or
comcast
doesn't
go
this
far
or
it's
going
to
cost
me
500
to
put
comcast
to
my
house,
so
we're
working
through
those
two
areas,
the
the
districts
three
and
four
and
then
ultimately,
we
want
to
get
to
the
to
the
east
side
side
site
and
then
and
then
ten
year
plan
looking
at
if
we
can
bring
on
a
telecommunications
architect
that
we
look
at
a
10-year
plan
where
we
put
in
just
fiber
throughout
the
city
and
then
sort
of
share
it
down.
N
I
wanted
to
share
our
team
of
collaborators.
Our
city
staff,
there's
a
there's,
a
big
team
and
it's
cross
department
then
also
externally,
we're
working
with
the
public
schools,
we're
working
with
the
department
of
information
technology
and
we're
also
working
with
community
partners
in
both
districts.
Three
and
four.
So
we
have
a
really
good
team.
That's
that's
helping
us
look
at
the
current
state,
what
we've
done
currently
and
then
what
we're
happening
to
do
with
some
of
the
issues
we
have
with
broadband
in
some
of
the
underserved
areas
in
district
3
and
4.
N
We
just
added
the
teen
center,
so
that's
another
spot
where
we
have
a
broadband
location
and
as
of
this
week,
the
week
of
the
tenth
I'm
sorry,
we
had
about
742
total
logins,
which
tells
me
that
it's
starting
to
grow
and
so
ultimately
you're
going
to
probably
get
a
a
sort
of
a
bi-weekly
update
on
sort
of
digital
access
and
you'll
see
a
slide
that
I
show
kind
of
a
graph
that
we've
been
building
talking
about
adaption,
and
this
graph
is
the
one
that
I
that
I
mentioned
that
you
can
see
by
week
when
we
launched
it
and
now
where
we
are
so
the
week
of
the
10th
16th
we're
now
total
connections
742
and
you
can
see
our
unique
users
changing
from
250
to
396..
N
I
think
that's
going
to
grow
once
you
know.
Folks
are
looking
for
jobs.
Folks,
are
you
know,
going
to
school
parking,
lots
and
doing
distance
learning
so
we'll
see
a
spike
as
school
starts
to
get
into
further
into
play
and
we're
going
into
phase
two
and
and
phase
two
sort
of
involves
the
sort
of
a
pandemic
response.
So
it's
a
work
in
progress.
We've
been,
as
I
said,
working
with
our
local
community
partners
and
that's
in
districts.
N
Three
and
four
and
I'll
have
a
map
showing
where
I'm
talking
about
we're,
hoping
to
install
point-to-point
backhaul.
It
just
means
we're
gonna
put
antennas
to
make
our
big
huge,
wi-fi
antenna,
which
is
over
by
the
police
academy,
to
extend
out
to
the
to
the
districts
so
that
they
can
have
the
same
type
of
high-speed
internet
that
we
have
in
most
parts
of
the
city
and
then
we're
working
with
the
public
schools
to
sort
of
extend
internet
capabilities
for
the
first
semester.
N
There
are
a
lot
of
kids
that
are
in
school,
now,
kindergartners
up
to
10th,
grade
12th
grade
and
so
we're
trying
to
work
with
them
to
figure
out
some
solutions.
So
there
is
a
liz
talked
about
earlier
that
crawl
walk
run.
N
So
we're
looking
to
help
have
work
with
them
to
figure
out
a
crawl
strategy
and
then
from
there
we
will
work
into
the
the
the
walk
and
run
spot
where
we
will
start
to
put
antennas
in
some
of
those
spots
so
that
it's
easy
access
for
them,
because
some
do
not
have
cars.
Some
can't
drive
to
the
local
schools,
even
though
there
are
local
schools
within
you
know
a
mile
of
where
they
live
so
the
school.
The
public
schools
has
some
ideas
around
mifi
gadgets.
N
They
have
distributed
350
and
so
there's
200
left
and
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
they
get
specifically
distributed
to
the
students
that
live
in
those
neighborhoods
and
the
public.
Schools
actually
has
a
really
cool
heat
map.
That
shows
where
their
students
are,
as
it
relates
to
an
actual
school
and
so
they're,
now
doing
the
work
of
making
sure
that
there
is
a
mifi
in
areas
where
we
know
that
people
need
a
social
distance.
People
need
to
shelter
in
place,
and
you
know
there
will
be
some
virtual
learning
going
on.
N
Again,
we're
using
these
mobile
home
parks.
We've
talked
to
some
of
the
community
partners
and
we
thought
how
can
we
sort
of
look
at
a
broader
initiative
to
sort
of
give
some
equity
out
there
and
cross
that
digital
divide,
and
so
there's
about
eight
mobile
home
locations
that
are
very,
very
dense
in
district
stream
4?
That
will
allow
us
to
put
some
antennas
there
so
that
they
can
have
internet
access
free
public,
internet
access.
N
We
think
this
is
going
to
cost
about
250
20
000
over
the
next
six
to
nine
months.
We
have
about
a
hundred
thousand
remaining
in
our
cip
fund
and
so
we're
applying
for
cares,
act,
funding
and
then
I'm
also
looking
at
a
grant
for
the
eda,
and
then
we
also
will
try
to
do
sort
of
icip
funding
for
broadband
to
replenish
that
that
number.
N
So
I
wanted
to
give
you
some
visuals
so
that
you
have
a
sense
of
what
I've
been
talking
about.
So
in
district
three,
you
can
see
this
map
here.
There
are
four
top
trailer
park:
locations
very
dense
trailer
park
locations,
there's
1340
traders
in
these
four
district
areas
and
we're
looking
at
applying
a
wi-fi
spot
there
in
the
medium
term.
In
the
immediate
term,
sorry,
the
school
will
put
make
sure
that
the
kids
have
mifi.
N
They
have
this
thing
called
khajiit,
which
is
kind
of
a
mini
like
a
wi-fi
router
that
will
be
able
to
sort
of
sit
there
for
a
while,
but
we're
looking
at
if
you
can
see
my
marker
here,
there's
a
black
spot
here.
This
is
jaguar
road
and
there
is
a
large
internet
antenna
there
at
that
police
academy,
and
this
will
be
our
point-to-point
station
where
we'll
be
able
to
use
antennas
to
reach
out
to
these
spots
with
giving
them
high-speed
internet
for
the
medium
turn
until
we
figure
out
our
full
telecommunications
plan.
N
So
these
so
the
circles
here
are
the
trailer
parks
and
then
they're,
looking
at
some
other
there's
some
parks
here,
we'd
like
to
set
up
wi-fi
so
that
for
people
that
can
you
know
in
those
those
areas
there
we'll
be
able
to
appreciate
wi-fi.
I
think
the
algorithm
village
is
sort
of
over
here
a
little
bit,
but
they
still
have
access
there
because
there
are
some
schools
here.
N
That's
definitely
it's
a
dot
there.
These
other
dots
are
schools
and
those
schools
already
have
wi-fi.
So
there
is
wi-fi
in
the
neighborhood,
but
there
are
people
who
can't
get
to
it
and
so
we're
trying
to
figure
out
the
walkability
aspect
where
maybe
they
can
walk
to
it
instead
of
getting
in
a
car
or
using
public
transportation,
which
is
just,
as
you
know,
unusable
sometimes
when
you
need
it
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
can
use
the
walkability
aspect
to
it.
N
There
are
two
large
major
areas
of
four
trailer
parks
here
and
there
are
about
582
trailers
in
this
area,
home
served,
and
so
we're
looking
at
right
now,
working
with
the
public
schools
to
make
sure
there's
wi-fi
for
kids
who
are
virtually
learning
and
then
we'll
also
then
set
up
our
point-to-point
and
have
the
major
buildings
that
are
there
and
then
use
it
for
antennas,
and
I
will
send
you
guys
a
copy
of
this
document
as
a
pdf,
so
that,
hopefully
you
can
see
it.
N
Yes,
there's
a
lot
of
maps
here,
some
of
some
of
the
questions
that
you
ask.
You
know
what
is
it?
What
is
it?
Where?
Is
it
difficult
to
access
wi-fi
I've
been
sort
of
speaking
to
that
south
side
district
east
side,
it's
up
in
the
foothills
area.
That's
more
convenience
more
than
it
is
a
need
or
or
underserved
need.
Is
there
availability
of
services?
There
is
all
the
above.
You
know
where's
the
access
where
it
is.
N
Sometimes
the
the
isps
or
internet
service
providers
look
at
it
from
a
return
investment
standpoint,
and
so
what
we're
trying
to
do
in
our
bigger
plan
is
to
push
wi-fi
out
to
neighborhoods
so
that
people
can
have
a
public
choice,
but
it
also
allows
the
isps
to
say:
there's
a
now
opportunity
to
sell
services,
but
I
got
to
be
competitive,
and
so
there
might
be
a
small
percentage
of
folks
who
say
I'll.
Take
this.
N
You
know
higher
speed,
comcast
brand
or
plateau
brand,
because
you
know
we're
offering
one
gigabit
they
might
be
able
to
offer
10..
So
we're
looking
at
that
from
a
standpoint
of
how
do
we
provide
services
out
there
so
that
we're
not
worried
about
a
isp
or
comcast
or
or
18t
saying
it's
just
not
worth
that.
N
I
can't
get
my
money
back
so
we're
looking
from
that
to
build
some
equity
in
those
neighborhoods,
and
then
someone
asked
about
where
the
service
providers
are
so
I
kind
of
listed
out
where
all
the
what
I
call
isps
and
the
different
districts
to
note
that
not
all
areas
are
served
in
these
districts
they're
there,
but
they're,
not
100
coverage
and
what's
interesting
about
these
isps,
is
that
they
don't
share
their
maps.
N
So
we've
been
sort
of
doing
kind
of
a
sleuthing
project
to
build
an
internet
map
to
see
where
they
are,
where
they
start,
where
they
end,
and
it's
been
a
crazy
course
of
activity
just
to
try
to
build
that
out.
N
So
part
of
what
this
telecommunications
architect
would
be
doing
is
to
create
a
sort
of
more
robust
app
that
we
could
put
on
our
gis
so
that
we
could
plot
it
out
so
that
we
know
strategically
where
the
need
is
more
than
just
having
people
come
to
us
anecdotally,
to
say
I
don't
have
internet
and
not
it's
not
just
one
person,
it
might
be
a
critical
mass
and
then
someone
asked
are
we
up
to
date
with
our
technology?
N
We
are
we're,
we're
definitely
cutting
edge
at
that
recent
science
and
technology
committee
meeting
it
they.
We
realized
that
santa
fe
actually
is
on
the
forefront
of
using
broadband
and
extending
and
leveraging
it
out
into
neighborhoods.
There
are
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
around
the
state
that
are
not
even
thinking
or
investing
in
this
type
of
solution
and
ideas
or
partnerships,
so
we're
we're
definitely
working
with
our
partners
to
make
sure
that
we
can
get
out
to
the
reach.
N
You
know
we
have
our
current
of
locations,
city
locations
and
school
locations,
but
we're
now
also
reaching
deeper
into
areas
where
they
are
underserved
and
knowing
that
they
have
issues
and
the
pandemic
was
a
part
of
it.
N
It's
not
reasons
why,
but
the
pandemic
has
really
accelerated
the
need
that
they
have
so
we
are
actually
working
with
do
it,
which
is
the
department
of
information
technology,
so
that
we
can
get
some
high-speed
internet
from
the
they
have
a
building
on
saint
francis
that
connects
to
this
jaguar
tower
and
that
jaguar
tower
will
be
our
extension
out
to
the
sort
of
western
sides
of
town
and
then
we're
looking
in
the
future
to
explore
more
money.
N
As
I
said,
with
cares
and
eda,
which
is
the
government
economic
development
association
for
administration
and
then
putting
in
one
of
the
ideas
we
wanted
to
do
was
looking
at
doing
a
roving
wireless
installed
community
rv.
So
this
rv
would
be
moving
from
place
to
place
on
a
daily
basis,
providing
resources
like
not
just
wireless
but
food
or
testing,
or
you
know,
counseling,
etc.
And
so
that's
one
of
the
areas
that
we're
considering.
N
As
we
look
into
our
medium
and
long
term
into
areas
that
are
affected
by
wonderful
virus,
but
also
that
there
is
an
underserved
need
that
we
may
have
been
ignoring
and
that
we
need
to
do
it
in
spanish,
we're
also
working
with
cyber
mesa,
which
is
our
current
vendor.
Who
manages
our
wi-fi?
N
That's
at
the
rail
yard,
and
they
would
be
helpful
for
us
as
we
look
out
at
that
east
side
hill
location,
where
they
would
do
some
points
of
points
to
make
sure
that
we
get
some
broadband
access
for
those
folks
who
are
or
are
working
remotely.
And
that's
have
just
difficulty
getting
some
of
the
big
major
players
to
bring
wi-fi
to
their
neighborhood.
K
N
So
we've
talked
about
so
the
access
of
funds
requiring
additional
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
cares
act
working
with
the
public
schools.
We
have
to
do
another
mou
and
then
the
rv
van
I
talked
to
you
about
and
then
one
of
the
biggest
things.
I
think
that
the
council
can
help
in
the
process
is
that
right
now
in
fy
21?
N
We
don't
have
opening
for
the
telecommunications
architect,
but
I'm
hoping
to
put
it
in
the
budget
for
fy
22,
so
that
we
can
look
at
our
10-year
plan
so
that
we
can
be
on
the
forefront
of
broadband
technology
and
and
cross
further
into
the
digital
divide
with
actual
fiber
in
the
ground.
A
Great,
thank
you
rich,
really
appreciate
this.
This
is
an
area
that
I'm
very
interested
in
it.
We
we
have
always
needed
internet
access,
and
I
just
think
this
issue
is
is
becoming
more
and
more
important
because
of
the
pandemic,
and
and
as
we
do,
more
learning
and
working
remotely
counselor
rivera
had
his
hand
up.
First,
okay,
yep.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
mr
brown,
so
you
talked
about
some
of
the
areas
in
district
three
or
four,
and
then
you
mentioned
that
there
may
not
be
enough
money
to
be
able
to
expand
that.
Can
you
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
more?
What
are
we
looking
at?
How
much
money.
N
Thank
you
counselor
we're
talking
about.
Ultimately,
as
we
talked
about
that
medium
to
long
term,
it's
probably
another
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
I
might
be
able
to
use
some
money
from
our
current
cip
funds,
100
000,
and
then
we
also
have
an
enterprise
fund
that
we
might
be
able
to
temporarily
take
money
from
because
it's
an
economic
development
piece
because
broadband's
a
part
of
economic
development.
N
We
might
be
able
to
use
that
until
we
push
it
through
grant
money
or
cares,
act
et
cetera,
but
we're
we're
now
just
pricing
out
what
it
costs
to
make
sure
that
there
is
equal
access
of
wi-fi
in
those
neighborhoods
and
and
so
we
want
to
get
beyond
the
theater
park.
We
know
there
are
other
areas
that
are
that
are
missing
out,
but
that's
what
we
think
our
initial
investment
will
be
in,
so
we're
looking
at
all
kinds
of
funding
sources
to
sort
of
make
it
happen.
E
Well,
I
would
appreciate
that
and
then
just
stress
that
you
know
a
majority
of
the
kids
live
in
district
three
and
four,
so
this
is
going
to
be
important
for
them.
Counselor
cassie
sanchez
mentioned
that
she
had
a
meeting,
I
believe
with
her
teacher
or
maybe
perhaps
it
was
a
city
manager.
I
had
one
with
my
grandson
today,
so
we're
going
to
be
doing
distance
learning
potentially
for
a
while.
E
So
I
think
it's
important
so
help
me
here,
sort
of
understand
and
again
I'm
just
not
familiar
with
this,
but
I
assume
that
infrastructure
will
be
able
to
handle
people
working
from
home.
E
All
the
kids
going
back
to
school,
as
well
as
kids,
going
back
to
college
or
adults
going
back
to
college
that
that's
a
lot
of
people
on
wi-fi.
I
assume
that
infrastructure
can
handle
all
that.
N
Yeah
as
council
reveres,
thank
you.
The
the
the
school
system
is
kind
of
an
intermediate
sort
of
first
semester
issue.
N
We
have
it's
going
to
take
us
a
while
to
get
that
what
I
call
point-to-point,
that
is,
a
much
more
high-speed,
10
gig
service
and
there's
a
there's,
a
range
of
300
feet
so
wherever
it
starts
where
it's
lands,
it's
about
a
300
foot
range
and
all
the
folks
that
are
in
that
area
will
will
be
able
to
enjoy
the
high-speed
wireless,
but
we
do
need
to
get
it
to
a
much
larger
bandwidth,
and
so
what
we'll
do
is
in
different
phases,
add
more
antenna
locations
so
that
you
know
it
doesn't
slow
down,
because
all
of
a
sudden
people
on
the
edges
are
saying,
I'm
not
getting
anything
and
everyone
who's
within
the
300
foot
range
is
getting.
N
You
know
two
three
gigabits
and
there's
a
thousand
homes
that
are
that
are
using
it.
So
so
this
this
high-speed
internet
that
we're
talking
about
that's
coming
from
that
tower
and
jaguar
will
be
strong
enough
to
sort
of
satisfy
those
locations
that
I
that
I
mentioned
once
we
start
to
put
in.
They
call
the
point-to-point.
E
All
right
and
have
we
started
thinking
about
so
potentially
distance
learning
may
continue
right
now,
past
labor
day
or
past
october.
So
right
now,
kids
can
walk
to
the
library
walk
to
school
and
have
access
to
that.
What's
going
to
happen
once
it
gets
colder,
are
we
going
to
be
in
a
better
position.
N
Well,
we're
that's!
Why
we're
in
a
we're
in
a
go
mode
right
now,
because
that's
why
we
want
to
be
able
to
get
these
point
to
points,
especially
in
the
trailer
parks
for
now,
because
you
don't
have
to
leave
the
house,
it's
going
to
be
strong
enough
in
those
dense
areas
where
you
could
stay
in
your
house
and
get
a
free
wi-fi
in
that
area.
Additionally,
you
know
the
school
is
thinking.
Oh,
maybe
we
can
get
some
school
buses
that
aren't
being
used.
N
We
can
park
there,
there's
a
lot
of
issues
with
that
right
now,
but
they
asked
if
we
could
use
the
khajiits,
which
will
kind
of
be
a
temporary
solution
for
us,
but
as
the
weather
gets
colder,
we're
hoping
that
by
the
time
november
comes
we've.
We've
actually
put
our
antennas
in
and
they're
enjoying
wi-fi
in
those
areas
where
they
don't
have
to
get
out
of
their
house.
N
I
mean
if
they
have
a
car,
they
can
go
to
a
school
and
use
it,
but
it
should
be
able
to
use
in
their
their
area
for
the
that
span
of
space.
E
All
right,
I'm
glad
you're
thinking
ahead,
but
when
you
talk
about
a
crawl
walk
run,
I'm
not
sure
we
have
enough
time
to
crawl.
So.
E
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
we
are
on
I'm
not
sure
who
was
who
was
next,
so
I'm
just
going
to
take
them
in
the
order
they
come
on.
My
screen,
counselor
garcia.
You
have
your
hand
up.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
rich
for
the
thorough
presentation.
Just
got
a
quick
couple
questions.
I
you
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
focus
on
district
three
and
four,
and
I
see
that
you
said
that
you're
looking
at
fort
marcy.
Are
you
guys
thinking
about
midtown
area?
Because
there
is
it
can
impact?
You
know
the
district
three.
D
I
mean
district
four
district,
two,
you
know
especially
the
hopewell
man
neighborhood,
and
I
think
it's
we
wanna
ensure
that
there's
equitable
services
throughout
the
city,
especially
when
it's
critical
service
services
like
wi-fi,
because
as
council
rivera
noted
I
mean
our
teachers
are,
are
giving
us
the
kind
of
heads
up
we're
going
to
be
in
remote
learning
all
year,
not
not
just
throughout
this
next
nine
weeks,
so
we're
they're
prepping
us
for
that.
D
So
I
think
we
need
to
prep
our
communities
and
really
look
at
how
we
can
make
the
access
in
an
equitable
manner
as
well.
I
mean
I,
I
think
the
idea
of
looking
at
buses
is
a
great
idea
how
that
works,
because
you
know
not
every
kid
is
going
to
want
to
be
using
wi-fi
during
the
day
so
to
speak.
I
know
that
there's
been
that
challenge
where
some
kids
are
going
to
have
to
go
to
daycare
because
their
parents
are
working
so
they're
going
to
have
to
go
to
school
in
the
evenings.
D
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
plant
that
seed
that
we
need
to
ensure
that
there's
equitable
service,
24
7,
and
not
just
you
know,
primarily
throughout
the
day
you
shared
with
us
data
within
the
last
month
or
so
do
we
have
data
for
the
spring
in
regards
to
how
how
much
these
new
newly
installed
installed,
wi-fi
extenders
were
utilized
during
the
remote
learning
that
the
students
went
through
this
past
spring
semester.
N
Madam
chair
council
revere
I'm
going
to
answer
your
two
questions
in
order
first
and
second
one.
I
want
to
put
up
a
great
point
about
equity
throughout
the
city.
I'm
also
looking
at
this
broadband
strategy
and
plan
through
the
opportunity
zones,
and
so
in
the
midtown
area.
There
are
two
opportunity
zones,
not
just
the
campus:
that's
that's
one,
but
in
the
hopewell,
maybe
neighborhood,
that's
all
opportunity
zones.
N
It's
a
it's
a
perfect
way
for
us
to
get
grant
funding
through
the
federal
government,
because
broadband
is
some
one
of
their
initiatives
and
also
that
it's
because
of
an
opportunity
zone.
So
it's
it's
on
our
docket,
we're
just
we're
sort
of
just
testing
it
out
on
the
district
three
area.
Those
precincts
are
actually
three
precincts
there
earlier
in
district
three
and
four,
but
there
are
a
couple
of
precincts
so
we're
moving
we're
moving
along.
We
want
to
get
to
the
hope,
oh
man
area,
so
we
will
definitely
be
in
that
run
mode.
N
We're
definitely
putting
it
there
and
actually
it's
closer
to
the
high-speed
broadband
antenna.
So
it
should
be
a
little
easier.
So
to
that
point
the
opportunity
zones
are
one
area
that
we
know
we
have
to
sort
of
focus
on
and
then
two
you
asked
about
the
data,
and
so
the
the
the
school
and
and
city
locations
didn't
really
come
on
until
near
the
end
of
school,
because
we
had
some
equipment
waiting
issues,
and
so
we
don't
have
data
up
to
may
because
they
were
just
starting
up.
N
So
this
is
kind
of
the
data
that
we
have
right
now
and
we're
gonna.
You
know,
store
it
and
share
it
moving
forward,
but
because
of
some
equipment
issues,
paperwork
issues,
it
did
not
go
live
immediately
in
may
1,
which,
where
may
15th
was
our
our
start
date.
We
had
some
delays
with
it.
So.
D
Okay
and-
and
I
guess
a
follow-up
to
that-
just
because
they
are
being
you
know,
the
a
lot
of
these
extenders
were
at
schools
and
they're.
Probably
I
would
assume
the
teachers
and
the
administrators
at
the
schools
are
using
that
wi-fi
already.
So,
if
there's
a
way
to
kind
of
differentiate,
previous
users
and
new
users,
I
think
that
would
definitely
help,
because
I
I
think
that
would
change
the
numbers
dramatically.
In
the
sense
you
had
teachers
returning
to
schools
last
last
week
within
the
couple
last
couple
weeks
to
get
their
supplies.
D
What
not
get
get
ready
to
teach
from
home
so
I'll
be
interested
to
know
how
many
folks
are
using
it
before.
What's
the
new
usage
et
cetera,
but
thank
you
again
for
the
information
rich.
I
really
appreciate
this
initiative
and
I
and
I
like
that-
we're
looking
at
the
high
speed
more
so
ethernet
access
underground
cables,
not
necessarily
wi-fi
extenders.
D
I
know
that
there
are
lots
of
community
concerns
in
regards
to
you
know
extending
wi-fi,
especially
5g
through
the
air,
and
it
sounds
like
through
the
ground,
is
a
much
safer
component
and
and-
and
I
like
that-
we're
looking
in
that
direction.
But
thank
you
for
the
thorough
presentation.
I
really
appreciate
it.
Rich
yeah.
N
Thank
you
very
much
counselor.
I
just
want
to
add
to
that.
The
data
I
have
is
a
little
bit
deeper.
So
one
of
the
data
points
I
put
on
there
was
unique
users,
so
we
know
the
new
users,
but
I
do
have
some
data
that
that
takes
it
per
location.
So
when
I
share
the
data,
I
have
I'll
make
sure
that
you
get
a
copy
of
that.
You
can
kind
of
see
the
charts
that
we've
been
building
around
unique
users
and
each
each
location.
So
you
have
that
information.
A
Great
next
on
my
list:
counselor,
sorry
counselor,
okay,.
L
Thank
you
so
much
rich
for
this
presentation,
and
you
know
I
again.
This
is
just
such
a
necessary
work,
as
you
said
something
we
should
have
done
a
long
time
ago,
and
I'm
really
glad
that
you
know
there
are
some
positive
things
that
come
out
of
this
very
less
than
positive
situation.
L
I
had
one
quick
question.
I
know
for
our
students.
They
receive
chromebooks
from
santa
fe
public
schools,
but
I
know
that
there
are
still
issues
with
people
having
access
to
devices.
L
Most
people
do
have
a
smartphone.
I
know
that
this
isn't
always
the
case.
So
I
was
curious
if
we've
come
up
with
any
solutions
for
people.
L
Sorry
about
that,
my
computer
gets
a
little
funky,
so
if
for
any
solutions
for
people
that
don't
have
an
internet
accessing
device
or
it
can
be
really
hard
to
apply
for
a
job
on
a
phone
and
usually
people
would
have
utilized
our
libraries
potentially,
but
of
course
we
don't
have
those
available
right
now.
So
I'm
curious
if
we
how
we're
looking
at
this
problem
and
how
we
might
solve
them.
I
see
council
via
ariel
laughing
at
my
cat.
N
I
think
your
cat
wants
to
hear
the
answer
also.
So
so
thank
you
for
that
answer.
Question
counselor!
N
Yes,
so
so
we've
been
working
with
the
public
schools
and-
and
they
recognize
that's
an
issue
because
they
know
that
sometimes
they
give
an
ipad
to
a
elementary
kid
or
a
chromebook
to
a
student
and
their
parent
takes
it
because
they
need
it
for
work
and
so
they're
that
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
sure
that
in
the
multi-generational
families
or
families
that
just
don't
have
those
tools,
how
we
work,
and
so
I've
been
working
with
kira
ochoa
to
figure
out
if
in
the
community
services
side,
how
do
we,
you
know,
take
on
looking
at
finding
funding
so
that
we
can
help
those
those
neighborhoods
with
that
and
so
the
connect
program?
N
That's
one
of
the
things
we
want
to
put
in
there.
Do
you
have
access
to
broadband?
Do
you
have
access
to
tools,
and
so
connect
will
have
to
actually
help
us
sort
of
pinpoint
those
folks
who
may
not
have
the
tools
they
need
to
to
succeed
or
to
be
informed?
And
so
that's
where
pier
and
I
have
been
kind
of
figuring
out
beyond
the
schools.
N
What
happens?
The
other
thing
we're
doing
is
that
the
public
schools
recognizes
that
that
there
are
kids
that
don't
have
access
that
we
could
just
they
have
these
things
called
mifi's,
so
they
give
them
the
mifi,
and
that
gives
them
like
a
hot
spot,
and
so
they
have
200
left
and
they
realize
they
haven't
distributed
them
and
school's
in
progress.
So
so
we're
going
to
do
that
sort
of
one-two
punch
where
the
school
needs
to
do
the
life
the
mind
and
then
kieran
are
sort
of
working
through.
N
How
do
we
make
sure
that
folks
and
families
that
don't
have
tools
can
get
them
and
then
tie
it
into
what
we're
doing
to
provide
broadband
access.
L
That's
wonderful!
I'm
really
glad
that
we
are
already
thinking
about
that.
L
One
thing
that
actually
came
to
mind
was
recently:
there
was
a
group
that
was
asking
for
they
needed
laptops
and
I
have
a
horde
of
old
laptops
because
I
never
knew
how
to
dispose
of
them
in
a
environmental
manner,
and
so
that
also
might
be
something
that
you
know
we
could
reach
out
to
the
city
that
you
know
that
people
might
have
old
devices
that
you
know
might
just
be
really
slow
or
clunky
or
don't
maybe
don't
work
for
somebody
who
has
to
store
a
lot
of
stuff
on
their
computer,
but
it
it
could
be
a
potential
drive.
K
A
L
A
Great,
thank
you,
everybody
just
a
couple
of
things,
rich.
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
It's
very
timely.
I
I
I
did
see
the
article
in
the
paper
about
the
science
and
technology
legislative
committee
that
also
looked
at
this.
Do
you
have
that
presentation
that
report
that
was
given
to
them.
N
I
think
I
do
I
I
think
I
do
I
I'll
make
a
note.
I
think
that
I
was
able
to
get
a
copy
yeah.
A
If
you,
if
you
have
a
copy,
maybe
you
could
send
it
to
the
committee
that'd
be
great.
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna
yield
the
floor
right
now
to
council
rivera
who's
waving
his
hand
and
has
something
else
to
tell
us.
E
Thanks,
madam
chair
up
just
on
councillor
cassette
sanchez's
point,
as
I
sponsored
a
resolution
several
years
ago,
that
asked
for
the
city
with
all
its
used
laptops
and
used
desktops,
that
they
would
clean
them
up
and
then
donate
them
to
needy
families.
So
there's
a
resolution
out
there
that
allows
for
that.
There
wasn't
much
of
a
need
for
it
back
then,
as
much
as
I
thought
there
was,
but
perhaps
now
with
cobit,
there's
much
more
of
a
need
to
get
those
out.
G
On
that
point,
madame
chair,
yes,
council
via
rail,
they
actually
had
been
talking
about
that
or
when
I
was
on
swama
the
solid
waste
management
agency.
Because
of
the
day
when
people
drop
off
electric
electronics,
they
were
trying
to
work
with
a
third
party
to
figure
out
how
they
could
support
by
wiping
them
out
and
then
being
able
to
reuse
them
in
the
community.
So
there's
an
effort,
and
I
would
probably
talk
to
yeah-
I
am
too
tired,
charlene
might
know,
but
but
actually
I'm
thinking
of
randall.
G
A
Thank
you
and
councillor
rivera.
Do
you
do
you
remember
what
year
you
carried
that
resolution
we'll
go
back
to
him?
Well
there.
He
is
sorry.
A
Okay,
we've
got
one
more
presentation,
but
I
I
do
have
a
couple
of
things.
I
am
very
interested
in
this
fiber
infrastructure.
It
is
the
future
we
we've
got
to
get
it
and
I
I
I'd
be
interested
in
talking
to
you
about
future
presentations
for
this
committee
about
you
know
what
that
costs.
A
That,
where
we,
where
we,
how
we
start
to
plan
long
term
for
that,
whether
10
years
is
too
long,
you
know
we
may
need
to
do
something
sooner
in
that
area.
So
I
just
want
you
to
know
that
I
that
I'm
very
interested
in
getting
the
fiber
infrastructure.
L
A
And
I
I'm
also
interested
in
you
know
several
counselors
talked
about
equity
and
you
know
part
of
what
piqued
my
interest
about
this,
of
course,
is
is
just
you
know,
I've
gotten
emails
from
constituents
and
then
just
my
own
struggles
with
broadband,
and
then
you
know
talking
to
my
kids
and
and
hearing
what
what
they
have
available
to
them
by
providers
and
what
they're
paying
for
it.
A
So
in
terms
of
speed
and
cost
I
mean
we
are-
we
are
not
there
yet
we
are
paying
far
too
much
for
far
too
little
speed
and
I
don't
know
what
we
do
about
that.
But
I'd
be
interested
in
ideas
on
that
and
it
you
know.
One
of
my
one
of
my
thoughts
is
to
to
bring
some
of
the
providers
before
the
committee
and
and
have
them
talk
about
their
plans
to
generate
access
here,
so
heads
up
out
there.
A
A
I
guess
rich
the
east
side
and
the
foothills
you
you
characterized
as
being
convenience
rather
than
necessity,
and
I
would
just
ask
you
not
to
say
that
again,
because
we
have
many
institutional,
educational
institutions
in
districts,
one
and
two
and
the
importance
is
the
same,
we're
all
trying
to
live
and
work
and
and
go
to
school,
no
matter
what
part
of
the
city
we're
in,
and
I
think
this
is
an
important
component
for
everyone.
A
So
I
just
want
to
put
a
little
word
of
warning
there
all
right
so
with
that.
Thank
you.
Rich
really
appreciate
you
being
here
to
be
continued,
definitely
want
to
want
to
hear
more
about
that,
and
we
will
go
now
to
our
last
presentation.
Thank
you
all
for
stay
hanging
in
there.
I
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
the
slow
and
quiet
campaign
that
was
recently
completed
phase
one.
A
So
we
have
the
santa
fe
police
department
here
to
talk
to
us
about
that,
and
and
and
since
we
put
this
on
the
agenda,
we
we've
moved
into
phase
two.
I
know
we're
all
getting
lots
of
emails
from
folks
and
about
the
noise
and
about
mufflers
and
just
the
disruption.
A
All
of
that
is
causing
so
really
appreciate
you
hanging
in
there
captain
and
and
being
here
to
to
provide
some
information
about
about
the
first
phase
and
and
and
maybe
you'll
touch
on
on
the
plans
that
are
underway
in
this
second
phase.
So
thank
you
for
being
here
sure.
K
And
counselors,
so
I
have
a
slideshow
I'm
going
to
try
to
share
the
screen,
see
if
I
can
do
that
properly
I'll
go
through
the
slideshow
at
any
point
you
have
any
questions
or
want
to
stop
me
or
whatever.
You
can
feel
free
to
it's
a
fairly
short
slideshow.
So
hopefully
we
can
keep
the
time
down
a
little
bit,
but
I
will
try.
N
K
Okay,
great
all
right,
let
me
pull
that
over
okay.
So
a
little
bit
of
the
background
on
the
slow
and
quiet
operation,
the
phase
one
you
can
see
there
there's
a
picture
of
downtown
the
plaza
area,
although
it
may
have
initiated
there
the
plaza
area,
it
didn't
stay
there.
I'm
sure
some
of
the
counselors
you've
heard
your
constituents
complaining
about
muffler
noise
throughout
different
parts
of
the
city.
With
that
being
said,
it
was
initially
in
the
plaza
area
in
the
surrounding
streets
and
the
initial
stuff
was
drag
racing
and
mufflers
as
well.
K
K
When
you
look
at
mufflers,
they
are
definitely
a
quality
of
life
issue.
People
especially
live
downtown
where
it's
an
echo
chamber,
if
you
will,
but
with
that
being
said,
it's
not
a
public
safety
issue
that
that
kind
of
goes
more
into
the
speeding,
the
drag
racing
and
that
so
you
have
your
quality
of
life
versus
the
the
public
safety.
So
in
this
case
we
decided
to
go
ahead
and
pull
a
specialized
unit,
and
that
was
the
dwi
unit
and
they
began
that
on
june
24th
and
that
ran
till
july
18.
K
So
it's
about
25
days.
We
also
had
our
bike
team
participate.
We
couldn't
have
our
bike
team
participate.
You
know
all
day
long
in
it.
They
have
their
own
function
there,
at
the
plaza
and
keeping
that
area
safe
and
responding
to
calls
for
service
there.
So,
but
we
were,
we
did
pull
them
from
8
to
10
pm,
which
it
seems
like
in
the
later
hours
is
when
we're
seeing
the
muffler
complaints,
especially
when
they
were
concreting
and
the
drag
racing
was
what's
happening.
K
The
focus
of
the
violations
was
speeding
loud
mufflers
exhibition,
driving
the
racing
reckless
driving
pretty
much
anything
that
was
dangerous
and
that's
also,
including
all
other
forms
of
citations.
Running
stop
signs
and
things
of
that,
but
that
was
the
focus
we
also
displayed
as
far
as
public
notice
goes
well.
You'll
hear
me:
excuse
me
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
later
about
the
the
kind
of
social
engagement,
putting
the
media
release
out
prior
to
the
operation,
letting
the
public
know
hey.
This
is
the
operation
that
we're
going
to
be
conducting.
K
I
think
we,
even
in
the
initial
media
release
we
linked
the
ordinances
to
people,
can
familiarize
themselves
with
it
kind
of
give
some
information
on
the
the
violation
and
the
penalties
and
the
fines.
And
then
we
here
we
put
the
the
message
board
downtown
the
plaza
kind
of
just
reminding
people
that
the
drag
racing
run
safe
driving
would
be
enforced.
K
So
a
little
bit
of
statistical
information.
I
won't
bore
you
with
all
the
numbers,
but
there
were
about
477
citations
issued
city-wide.
This
is
also
officers
on
their
regular
duty
issuing
citations
to
mitigate
that
overtime.
Since
we
we
did
take
a
hit
with
the
overtime
budget
being
reduced.
Obviously,
with
the
budget
crisis,
there
were
477
city-wide.
There
were
113
citations
that
were
just
directly
downtown
in
the.
If
you
will
the
pdp
loop
so
to
speak,
those
covered
everything
from
race
racing
to
reckless.
K
There
was
as
far
as
speeding
directly
in
the
downtown
area.
There
were
12
citations
for
that
and
then
citywide
there
were
another
97
citations
for
speeding
that
were
issued
mufflers.
There
were
18
citations
that
were
issued
and
there
were
as
far
as
the
dwi
unit.
Obviously
they
were
the
head
of
this
operation.
There
was
also
five
drivers
that
were
detected
and
arrested
ultimately
for
uwis.
K
I
figured
this
may
be
something
interesting
when
we
talk
about
the
mufflers,
you
know:
how
do
we
enforce
it?
Where
is
it
going
ultimately
how's
it
ending
up
in
the
court?
So
a
little
handy
picture,
there's
the
municipal
court,
so
I
reached
out
to
the
staff
attorney
for
municipal
court
chatcham
and
just
kind
of
asked
him
where
these
since
2020,
you
know
how
many
citations
have
they
been
out
there
for
mufflers
and
what's
going
on
with
them?
Where
are
they
at
in
the
process?
K
And
you
can
see
there,
the
11
of
them
were
penalty
assessments.
That
means
that
the
individual
driving
the
vehicle
took
the
penalty
at
the
time
of
the
stop
basically
pled
guilty
and
paid
the
fine
three
of
them
pled
not
guilty
and
they're.
Pending
the
traffic
trial,
you
have
some
no
contest
and
deferred.
There
was
a
bench
warrant
that
was
issued
and
there's
also
11
that
have
not
yet
been
arraigned.
K
K
So
some
other
noted
items
and
just
watching
other
presentations
that
happen
tonight
and
the
discussion
of
spanish
speaking
and
bilingual
things
that
need
to
be
released
to
them
to
just
to
the
public.
So
the
the
sergeant
that's
in
charge
of
the
operation
he's
one
of
the
department's
paid
spanish
speakers,
so
he
noticed
a
lot
of
the
stops
that
he
was
doing.
They
were
younger
spanish-speaking
juveniles.
K
They
weren't
aware
of
the
ordinance
so
kind
of
going
forward
in
the
phase
two.
We
did
that
social
media
release
again
to
put
it
out
there.
We
did
the
first
one
in
english.
He
is
working
on
putting
together
something
for
either
a
pamphlet
or
something
we
can
release.
That's
kind
of
a
bilingual
that
addresses
this
specifically
and
he's
actually
the
one
that
that
brought
that
up
so
he's
pretty
excited
to
to
get
it
going.
K
So
in
phase
two
phase,
two
began
on
august
14th,
so
roughly
about
five
years
ago
and
it'll
be
active
until
september,
18th,
again
just
kind
of
taking
the
hits
to
the
overtime
budget
and
using
on-duty
resources
to
mitigate
that
over
time.
We're
going
to
be
using
on-duty
resources
for
that
and
you'll
see
the
reference
there.
K
It
says
common
days,
comedies
are
for
the
police,
department
are
on
fridays
and
it's
basically
where
the
entire
staff
for
that
team
is
here,
so
it
allows
it
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
staffing
to
address
a
little
bit
lower
priority
stuff
as
far
as
mufflers
and
stuff
of
that
nature,
for
them
to
focus
on
that.
Assuming
that
calls
for
service
you
know
allow
for
that,
the
actual
operation
I
decided
to
go
ahead
and
assign
it
to
the
graveyard
commander,
the
graveyard
lieutenant.
K
The
reason
for
that
is
most
of
these
mufflers
drag
racing
type.
Complaints
happen
around
eight
to
about
one
in
the
morning.
So
that's
that's
the
perfect
time
for
when
graveyard
is
out,
so
it
covers
that
that
process
you
know
still
going
forward
later.
In
the
year
we
haven't
determined
when
it
will
go
into
effect,
the
date
or
the
term.
Again.
I
know
I'm
going
to
reference
this
a
couple
times,
but
that
that
overtime
budget
we
want
to
you
know,
keep
that
in
and
mitigate
it
with
on-duty
resources.
K
So
the
term
of
the
blitz,
how
long
we're
going
to
the
blitz
you
know.
Sometimes
I
I
think
the
blitz
has
cost
us.
It
cost
us
upwards
of
you
know
57
thousand
dollars
that
we
did
as
much
as
we
wanted
to
do.
But
it's
just
not,
I
don't
think
feasible
this
year.
So
when
the
blitz
is
going
to
happen,
how
long
it's
going
to
be
we're
not
sure
yet,
but
it
will
be
forthcoming
at
some
point
and
with
that
I
will
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Great,
thank
you
we're.
We
get
a
lot
of
emails
as
you
know
about
this,
and
I
I
thought
it
would
be
instructive
for
us
all
to
hear
a
little
bit
about
what
happened
in
phase
one
and
now,
of
course
we
have
phase
two.
So
I
will
take
questions
to
the
committee.
Counselor
cassette
sanchez.
Your
hand
was
up
first.
L
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
very
much
officer
for
being
here.
I
you
briefly
touched
on
it,
but
we
were.
I
know
that,
there's
a
it's
really
challenging
to
enforce
the
mufflers
and
I
was
hoping
you
could
go
into
a
little
bit
more
information
about
that,
because
that's
something
that
our
you
know
I'll
get
this
from
from
constituents
and
they'll
say.
Well,
it's
obvious.
L
When
there's
a
muffler
that
is
been
modified,
and
can
you
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
some
of
some
of
the
challenges
that
you
all
face
when
trying
to
enforce
the
modified
muffler
ordinance.
K
Real
time
in
in
that's
one
of
the
hardest,
things
is
the
real-time
complaint
and
the
violation
happening
in
real
time.
As
you
can
imagine,
it's
a
moving
violation.
So
when
somebody,
let's
say
reports
it
on
communications3
or
they,
they
report
it
on
cerritos,
whatever
it's
at
by
the
time
an
officer
gets
there,
sometimes
the
violator's
already
gone
or
in
aspects
of
when
they're
hanging
around
downtown
and
they're
kind
of
doing
the
cruise
line.
K
If
you
will,
by
the
time
a
police
officer
shows
up
or
when
a
police
officer
shows
up,
they
no
longer
are
violating
it
because
they
either
slow
down.
They
don't
have
their
engine
and
they're
trying
to
stay
within
that.
You
know
the
parameters
of
the
law.
I
guess,
if
you
could
say,
oh
there's
a
police
officer,
I
better
stop
it
and
it's
it's
hard
to
catch
it.
That
way.
So
that's,
that's
probably
I
would
say
the
biggest
the
hardest
problem
we
have
with
it.
L
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that.
You
know.
That's
that's
something
that
I've
I've
talked
to
a
number
of
constituents
about
that
it
is
a
very
challenging
one
to
catch
in
the
act.
So
do
we
have
so
any
further
solutions
on
how
we
might
be
able
to
to
address
this?
I
know
it's
gotten.
I
know
it's
gotten
worse
recently,
but
it's
been
pretty
bad
on.
I
live
right
off
of
camino
carlos
ray
and
rodeo,
and
so
it's
been
pretty
bad
in
that
area.
Governor
miles,
I
know,
really
gets
a
lot.
L
Beckner
gets
a
lot
and
I
I
noticed
it
prior
and
so
what
are
some
of
the
strategies
that
we
might
be
able
to
look
at
going
forward
or
what
are
some
of
just
the
resources
that
y'all
need
to
be
able
to?
I
mean
from
what
I'm
hearing
it
sounds
like
we
need
more
of
you
to
be
there
to
catch
it,
but
are
there
other
additional
tools
we
might
be
able
to
use.
K
I
mean
really
the
the
officer
being
there
is
it's
hard
because
of
the
real
time
aspect,
and
it's
even
harder
because
to
dedicate
the
officer
to
be
there
prior
to,
in
other
words,
be
actively
proactively
observing
it.
We
have
to
be
able
to
have
available
staffing
for
that.
So
that
means
we
have
to
dedicate
personnel
from
that
and
and
stand
away
from
the
calls
for
service
while
we're
dedicating
that
personnel
to
that,
and
just
for
reference
staffing-wise
I
mean
just
for
the
month
of
july.
K
I
think
we
averaged
about
nine
thousand
calls
for
service,
so
you're
looking
and
for
august,
we're
already
at
about
five
thousand.
So
it's
hard
for
the
staffing
wise,
but
going
forward
that
that's
still
something
as
our
staff
comes
in
and
we
hire
people-
and
I
know
chief
buddy
has
a
a
goal
of
fully
staffing
the
apartment
and
patrol,
and
I
know
deputy
chief
valdez
is
working
very
hard
on
getting
it
done
and
accomplished.
So
that's
one
part
of
it.
You
know
just
getting
the
staffing
in.
K
I
know
the
technology
will
come
and
help
us
out.
Eventually,
you
know
when
we
get
the
the
cameras
and
stuff
like
that,
those
you
know
they're
speed,
specific.
You
know
they're,
not
necessarily
for
for
noise,
but
when
somebody's
speeding
that
might
slow
them
down,
we
do
have
other
options
as
far
as
the
speed
goes
in
particular,
is
you
know?
Sometimes
it's
not
always
muffler.
Some
people
just
complain
about
speed,
and
it
just
really
depends
on,
like
I
said,
they're
not
always
intertwined,
but
we
do
have
other
options.
K
You
know
when,
depending
on
what
it
actually
is,
but
outside
of
that
it's
gonna
be
police
officer
presence,
but
that
you
know
that
incurred
staffing
and
then
a
little
bit
of
technology
help
as
well,
and
then
I
think,
really
that
public
education,
a
lot
of
the
people
that
were
stopped,
did
not
know
that
that's.
K
That
was
an
issue,
and
you
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
some
people
that
are
modifying
their
mufflers
are
spending
an
exorbitant
amount
of
money
and
investing
that
into
their
car
and
santa
fe
is
known
for
cruising,
so
they
like
the
cruise
they
like
to
get
out
there
like
to
do
that,
and
they
may
just
pay
the
81
dollar
penalty
assessment
to
maintain
their
5
000
investment.
If
that
makes
sense.
K
L
Yep
yeah
that
that
does
make
sense.
I
understand
how
that
that
could
occur
so
well.
Thank
you.
You
know.
I
do
really
hope
that
you
know
again.
I
know
this
has
been
a
broader
conversation,
but
what
can
we
be
taking
off
your
plates?
And
I
know
that's
something
that
we're
starting
to
look
at
you
know
of
all
those
service
calls.
L
How
can
we
be
moving
them
over
to
other
professionals
and
allowing
you
guys
to
really
be
able
to
focus
on
some
of
this
work
that
we
know
is
really
important,
so
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
for
the
work
that
you've
done
on
slow
and
quiet.
I
know
that
I
had
a
constituent
off
governor
miles
who
had
mentioned
that
they
felt
that
they
were
seeing
some
slow
down
and
they
had
noticed
they
had
been
noticed,
a
more
traffic
citations
occurring,
and
they
were
very
appreciative
of
that.
L
So
I
wanted
to
pass
along
that
thanks
for
watching
that
road.
I
know
that
one
can
get
pretty
quick
and
and
very
dangerous,
so
we
really
appreciate
the
work
that
you've
been
doing
on
this.
G
Notes,
counselor
via
royale.
You
had
some
questions.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
captain
chaplin
for
joining
us
and
sitting
it
out
with
this
long
meeting.
I
really
do
appreciate
the
efforts
and
it's
kind
of
a
in
my
opinion,
especially
with
the
modifications
of
mufflers.
It's
not
so
much.
G
I
mean,
I
think
it's
a
knowledge
issue,
but
I
actually
think
we
should
go
to
the
source
and
it's
the
car
places
that
make
this
that
do
the
modifications
that
we
need
to
actually
somehow
not
just
inform
but
tell
them
that
that's
actually
an
illegal
that
it's
against
our
city
ordinance
and
that
there
is
a
city
ordinance
and
so
that
we
let
them
know
that
this
is
not
okay
and
that
I
don't
know
if
you
target
the
actual
entities
that
do
this
and
they
get
fined.
G
I'm
not
sure
I
don't.
I
don't
know
what
this
the
right,
like,
I
think,
maybe
just
educating
first,
would
be
the
first
step,
but
I
think
we
need
to
go
to
the
source,
because
if
people
are
spending
that
much
money
which
I
know
they
do
to
modify
their
mufflers,
then
they
should
the
people
that
are
doing.
It
should
know
that
this
is
not
actually
legal
in
the
city.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
ideas
of
how
we
could
approach
that.
I
don't
know
if
it's
really
the
police
doing
that
outreach
per
se.
G
But
I
do
think
that
these
car
places
need
to
know
that
the
that
we
don't
allow
this
and
that
we're
gonna
start
cracking
down,
maybe
at
their
place
of
business
instead
of
targeting
individuals
solely.
Do
you
have
any
thoughts
on
that.
K
Counselor
be
real,
we
have
had
many
discussions
about
mufflers
and
going
from
emissions
testing
like
in
in
some
other
cities
to
checkpoints
that
we
probably
can't
do
to
different
variations
of
what
we
can
possibly
do
it
might.
It
might
be
an
idea.
I
know
that
I
will
have
further
discussions
with
you
know
christine
and
housek
and
deputy
chief
joey,
and
as
this
goes
forward,
so
might
be.
Definitely
something
we
can
bring
up.
The
hard
part
is
that
you
have
not
just
the
the
the
muffler
shops
that
are.
K
You
know,
based
here
in
santa
fe.
Some
people
install
their
own.
It's
a
very
common
thing.
When
I
was
a
teenager,
I
installed
my
own
just
for
reference,
so
people
aren't
always
going
to
go
to
a
muffler
shop
to
do
it
and
then
what
about
your?
We
are
built
on
tourism
that
that's
what
our
city
is.
We
want
to
bring
people
in
to
see
our
city
and
those
people
that
come
in
there.
Let's
say
they
come
from
texas:
they
they
drive
a
big
f-250
truck
and
it's
just
a
loud
truck.
G
Yeah-
and
I'm
I
mean
I
know
that
they'll
exist
and
that's
not
like
the
end-all
solution.
I
just
think
that
having
it
happen,
late
at
night
is
a
whole
nother
level
of
nuisance,
so
yeah
I
just.
I
still
think
that
if
we're
doing
some
kind
of
educational
outreach
that
will-
maybe
I
don't
know
if
it'll
help,
but
I
think
it
it's
worth
a
try.
F
G
And
then
the
other
question
I
had
about
drag
racing.
One
of
the
officers
told
me
when
I
was
asking
them
about
the
drag
racing.
G
How
and
my
colleague
said
jamie
counselor
cassette
sanchez
said
that
where
she
was
experiencing
that
and
I
actually
think
it's
every
single
major
street
in
this
city,
they
were
having
the
drag
racing
issue,
but
one
of
your
officers
told
me
that
you
also
have
rules
against
actually
stopping
drag
racers
and
cars
that
are
going
at
high
velocity,
because
it's
a
safety
issue
for
the
streets
and
the
community
and
also
the
officers
and
so
you've
completely
stopped
stopping
you've
complete.
G
You
have
not
continued
stopping
drag
racers
now,
because
it's
against
some
kind
of
policy
is
that
true.
K
Conservative
route,
no
so
maybe
offline,
you
can
email
me
and
let
me
know
the
date
and
time
that
you
spoke
with
the
officer
and
I
can
try
to
educate
the
officer
a
little
bit,
maybe
misinformed
what
they
might
be
referring
to
would
be
something
like
a
vehicle
pursuit.
K
So
there
are
statute
limitations
and
we
are
very,
very
strict
with
the
department
with
vehicle
pursuits.
So,
for
instance,
if
somebody
were
let's
say
it's
one
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
somebody
was
going
60
miles,
70
miles
an
hour
down
syria's
road
and
the
officer
attempted
to
stop
them
and
they
increased
their
speed
to
80
or
85
miles
down.
K
You
know
going
down
the
road
that
might
be
a
time
where
we
stop
trying
to
stop
them,
because
the
the
the
possibility
of
them
hitting
a
family
down
the
road
for
just
a
speeding
violation
and
us
making
that
happen
or
being
part
of
that
for
a
reason
it
happened
and
causing
them
to
increase
their
speed
to
flee
from
us
holds
us
in
the
city
liable
and
much
less
the
the
horrible
things
that
could
happen
to
you
know
whoever
they
hit
even
the
driver
themselves.
K
They
a
young
kid,
might
get
scared
and
and
and
take
off
and
we're
not
going
to
chase
that
kid,
and
he
wrecks
into
a
light
pole
and
kills
himself
because
he
was
just
scared.
So
there
are.
We
are
very
strict
on
limitations
like
that
when
it
comes
to
vehicle
pursuits
when
a
vehicle
doesn't
stop
for
us,
but
if
we
observe
the
actual
violation
and
drag
racing,
we
can't
attempt
to
stop
it.
It's
just
at
what
point
do
we
stop
trying
to
stop
it.
G
Maybe
that's
what
they
were.
Referring
to
that
there's
a
certain
point
that
you
can't
continue
pursuing
a
drag
racer
if
they
in
increase
their
speed.
Is
that
the
case?
So
if
you
see
a
drag
racer
and
you
all
are
in
pursuit
to
stop
them
and
they
increase
their
speed?
Is
that
when
you
have
to
like
stop.
K
It's
very,
very
situational
dependent.
I
wish
I
could
give
you
a
blanket
answer
that
covers
all,
but
the
the
best
blanket
answer
is
when
it
becomes
too
unsafe
for
the
public
and
that
that
danger
outweighs
the
stop
and
that
danger
of
the
public
does
then
it's
going
to
be
called
off
and
it's
it's
basically
terminating
in
pursuit.
We
have
an
entire
committee
that
evaluates
every
pursuit
that
we
do
for
that.
For
that
purpose,.
G
Okay,
so
it's
more
complex,
I
guess
I
just
I'm
hearing
it
more
in
our
neighborhood
officers
like
at
between
1
and
3
a.m.
It's
bad,
and
so
I
hear
it
going
it's
and
it's
a
lot
of
motorcycles
too,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
police
are
out
there
going.
Oh,
we
can't
stop
them
so
we'll
just
let
them
go,
and
I
don't
know
it's
just
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
like
the
best
way.
G
If
there's
a
trend
you
all
are
following
or
if
there's
a
way
to
like
prevent
that
from
happening.
It's
just
I
don't
know.
I
know
you
have
to
be
in
so
many
different
parts
of
the
city,
but
it
seems
like
if
sodius
has
been
the
hot
spot.
Wouldn't
you
want
to
just
keep
hanging
out
there
in
the
middle
during
the
graveyard
shifts.
K
It's
sometimes
the
constituent
complaints
can
come
in
from
a
louder
group
and
it
can
be
misleading
to
where
the
data
is
actually
at.
Sometimes
the
data
will
point
us
to.
I
can
tell
you
on
airport
road.
We
did
a
lot
of
speeding,
proactive
patrol
responses,
what
we
call
them,
but
where
we
put
officers
on
airport
road
to
to
get
that
down
in
areas
like
that,
but
just
just
on
the
real
short
itself.
K
It
really
depends
if
we
see
that
there's
a
speeding
issue
or
a
crash
issue
I'll
give
an
example
when
we
do
do
fall
blitz
when
we
start
to
prepare
and
plan
for
it.
We
do
evaluations
based
on
data.
That
says:
where
are
the
crashes
happening
at?
Where
are
people
getting
hurt
at
fatal
crashes?
Dui
crash
all
those
kind
of
crashes,
and
where
do
we
need
to
be
at
to
save
lives,
because
that's
the
ultimate
goal
so.
G
I
hear
you,
I
guess
what
what
I'm
hearing
is.
People
are
speeding
because
they
can,
because
there's
very
few
people
out
on
the
street
at
that
time
and
businesses
are
not
open.
The
bars
are
not
open,
and
so
that
gives
them
the
at
least.
They
think
the
privilege
to
speed
down,
and
so
you
wouldn't
see
a
crash
on
that
area.
G
K
Right,
I
I
can
tell
you
that
we
do
enforce
traffic
up
and
down
and
speeding
up
and
down
syria's
road,
especially
cerritos
road
airport,
rodeo,
all
the
main
drags.
If
you
will.
Okay.
G
K
It's
very
interesting
that
you
brought
that
up.
I
spoke
with
a
gentleman
today,
michael
collier,
from
flagstaff
arizona.
K
He
called
me
because
he
saw
our
media
announcement
about
our
muffler
enforcement
for
sloan,
quiet
he's
a
citizen,
not
a
cop
in
flagstaff
arizona,
and
he
called
to
get
what
we
were
doing
in
our
city,
because,
according
to
him-
and
this
is
only
according
to
mr
collier-
that
he
can't
get
his
his
city
council
or
his
you
know,
his
police
department
seems
like
to
move
on
it
because
they're
under
understaffed
they're
too
busy
it's
a
little
priority.
K
All
and
all
those
things
are
still
you
know
true,
even
with
us,
but
with
that
being
said,
he
called
to
santa
fe
new
mexico
because
he
saw
our
our
our
media
release
to
say:
hey
what
are
you
guys
doing
about
this?
So
that
was
interesting.
That
just
happened
this
morning,
so
yeah.
G
A
Okay,
councillor
casa
sanchez,
for
a
second
time.
L
Thank
you,
madam
chair
captain.
I
just
had
a
really
quick
question,
so
I
know
there's
kind
of
two
groups
of
speeders
there's
the
speeders,
who
are
speeding
for
fun
and
they're,
probably
going
to
keep
doing
it
in
general.
Do
those
those
displays
that
say
you
know
your
speed
is
and
it
blinks,
if
you're,
going
too
fast,
do
those
work
in
terms
of
kind
of
your
regular
individuals
that
just
went
too
fast
and
had
a
lead
foot
at
that?
Not
so
much.
K
I
think
it
I
think
it
does
have
an
impact.
I
think
it
definitely
slows
drivers
down.
I
know
that
we've
used
them
quite
a
few
times.
Just
one
that
comes
to
mind
is
up
on
canyon,
road,
where
it
has
a
people
come
around.
They
see
the
sign
they
slow
down
because
it
broadcasts
their
speed.
K
Some
people
are
gonna
just
speed
and
they
don't
care
because
they
know
that
that
little
message
board
isn't
gonna,
give
him
a
citation
and
it
doesn't
have
lights
on
it
and
a
citation
book
so
to
speak,
but
as
a
general
statement,
that's
why
we
also
use
you
know
the
traffic
calming
vehicles
and
different
things
to
try
to
try
to
stop
that
so,
but
I
believe
it
does
have
an
impact.
L
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
had
a
constituent
asking
about
those
the
other
day,
so
I
appreciate
the
insight
on
him.
That
was
all.
K
Counselor
cassette
sanchez.
Sorry
one
more
thing
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong,
you
brought
a
camino
carlos
ray
right,
so
I
talked
to
our
our
traffic
sergeant
today,
because
we
were
talking
about
those
speed,
sign
deployments
they're
actually
going
out
on
on
communal
cars
straight
tomorrow,
so
they're
scheduled
for
deployment
tomorrow.
L
That's
really
exciting.
I
have
about
five
emails.
I
could
send
tonight
that
would
make
some
individuals
very
happy.
So
thank
you
for
that
news.
I
appreciate
it.
A
K
I've
never
searched
in
a
manner
for
that.
There
are
addresses
that
are
listed
on
the
citation
whenever
the
citation
is
issued,
so
it
it
may
be
something
that's
searchable
like
if
we
put
in
a
let's
say
the
city
of
santa
fe,
everything
excluding
that,
but
it
would
be
probably
a
pretty
fairly
difficult
number
to
come
up
with
yeah.
A
I
I
just
it's
it's
my
sense
that
this
is
broader.
You
know
that
that
what
we're
feeling
here
is
not
necessarily
people
from
santa
fe
driving
in
santa
fe,
but
probably
coming
from
outside
of
the
city,
but
I
mean,
but
I'm
sure
we
have
plenty
of
people
who
live
here,
who
are
also
partaking.
A
I
also
want
to
I.
I
also
think
this
is
a
problem
all
over
the
city.
I
know
it's
a
problem
in
districts,
one
and
two
as
well
again
as
in
three
and
four,
I
think
anywhere.
You
have
interesting
streets,
whether
they're
long
straightaways
or
have
some
curves
and
they're
unpopulated
to
counselor
via
rael's
point.
You
know,
people
are,
are
gonna
use
them
as
a
racetrack.
So
I
I
think
the
problem
is,
is
pretty
wide
spread,
I'm
curious
how
it
works.
A
So
if
an
officer
is
out-
and
you
you
mentioned-
you
have
to
kind
of
be
there
to
actually
issue
a
citation
and
you
have
issued
some
citations.
Do
you
I
mean,
do
you?
How
do
you,
if
you
just
hear
the
muffler
noise?
Do
you
are
you
able
to
stop
them
and
then
what
happens?
Do
you
have
to
inspect
a
muffler?
Do
you
have
to?
K
So
the
ordinance
is
is
very,
I
guess
permissible
as
far
as
the
actual,
citing
the
violation,
what
it
basically
says,
if
an
officer
reasonably
suspects
that
that
muffler
is
modified
or
louder
than
stock,
that
they
can
issue
a
citation
for
the
purposes
of
having
that
individual
come
into
court
or
they
can
pay
the
penalty
assessments,
that's
their
option,
but
it
it
could
give
the
court
the
authority
to
order
an
inspection.
K
So
all
the
officer
has
to
do
is
reasonably
suspect
that
that
muffler
is
not
in
line
with
the
city
ordinance,
and
then
they
can
cite
that
individual
into
the
mystical
court
for
further
follow-up,
if
you
will
or
inspection,
and
that
really
depends
on
what
the
judge
determines
at
that
point,.
A
I
mean
other
than
I
mean
it's
a
difficult
situation,
as
you
suggest
that
you
have
to
you,
have
to
witness
it.
You
have
to
be
there.
That's
kind
of
hard
to
have
the
coverage.
Is
there,
I
I
don't
know,
is
there
anything
we
can
do
to
be
helpful?
Like
I
mean
do
you
need,
I
don't
know,
do
you
need
the
capacity
to
be
able
to
cite
the
shops
that
are
doing
this?
I
mean,
do
you
have
laws
that
that
would
allow
you
to
do
that.
K
I
don't
think
there's
any
city
ordinance
right
now.
I
could
be
wrong,
but
nothing
comes
to
mind
that
says
that
it's
illegal
for
a
muffler
shop
to
to
install
an
after
you
know
aftermarket
muffler.
If
you
will,
I
think
it
might
get
into
the
weeds
slightly
with
how
loud
is
that
muffler
and
and
the
the
verbiage
sometimes
even
gets
a
little
difficult,
because
the
way
that
the
ordinance
reads
is
anything
past
stock
so
take.
For
example,
a
mustang,
a
mustang
has
a
loud
standing
growl
just
coming
off
the
off
the
lot.
K
They
don't
have
to
modify
it
at
all.
So
we
cite
that
individual
into
the
municipal
court
and
they
say
it
was
stock.
There's
no
shop
involved
in
that.
So
could
it
be
something
like
counselor
real
mentioned?
Where
that's
kind
of
the
outside
the
box?
Can
we
address
them
at
least
put
something
on
the
books
that
says
that,
possibly
I
don't
know
if
it
I
don't
know
how
that
necessarily,
I
don't
know
how
beneficial
would
be
versus
the
work.
That
would
mean
to
be
done
with
that.
I
guess.
A
Okay,
well
I
it's
late.
I
won't
belabor
this,
but
thank
you
for
your
work
and-
and
I
think
you
know
if
you
hear
of
things-
that
other
cities
are
doing,
that
might
help
us
address
this
problem.
I
think
we'd
all
be
interested
in
it
because
again
we
do
hear
a
lot
from
folks.
I.
K
Think
the
biggest
thing
for
our
agency
right
now
is
getting
police
officers
on
the
street.
That's
the
funding
to
get
the
police
officers
on
the
street
so
that
we
can
one
be
as
efficient
as
possible,
reduce
those
calls.
You
know
those
response
calls
for
service
and
then
be
able
to
take
on
other
little
projects
and
quality
of
life
issues
like
the
mufflers
and
things
like
that.
It
really
is
a
big
issue
when
it
comes
to
staffing.
A
Yeah
well
and
maybe
more
education,
since,
since
you
pointed
out
that
people
some
some
of
the
people
you
stopped
didn't
know
so
all
right.
Well,
thank
you
for
hanging
in
there
with
us.
I
really
appreciate
it
and
appreciate
you
being
here
tonight
talking
about
all
the
hard
work
you
guys
are
doing.
So.
Thank
you
all
right
with
that
we
will
go.
I
I'm
probably
not
going
to
go
in
the
order
of
the
agenda
because
I
don't
have
it
pulled
up,
but
do
we
have
matters
from
staff
jennifer?
A
Is
there
anything?
No
matt,
I'm
sure
not
tonight,
okay,
great
matters
from
the
committee.
Just
one
thing
yes,
probably
already
know:
can
we
please
not
have
so
many
presentations
stacked
in
one
night
yeah?
So
I'm
sorry
we're
we're
trying.
So
when
we
scheduled
these,
we
didn't
have
anything
on
the
cassette
consent
agenda
right.
So
it's
it's
this
balance
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
all
this
stuff
gets
thrown
on
the
consent
agenda
we
are,
we
are.
A
We
are
working
hard
to
make
sure
that
you
have
meaningful
meetings
and
we
are
trying
to
balance
the
time.
I
I
hear
you
it's
it's
too
much
so,
okay,
anything
else
from
the
committee
all
right
anything
from
the
chair
no,
and
with
that
I
will
call
us
adjourn.
Thank
you
all
appreciate
it.
Good
night.