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If
you
are
here
to
present,
you
will
have
a
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
When
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
Commissioners.
The
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
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Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details
and
wall
sections.
The
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report.
We
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
Commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation
police
state
and
spell
your
name.
Clearly.
D
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
It
takes
some
time
now
to
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
public
comment.
The
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
The
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
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We
need
to
get
approval
our
minutes
from
last
month.
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
those.
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Good
evening,
Commissioners
Dennis,
Fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager,
welcome
to
this
evening's
public
hearing
and
Welcome
to
our
applicants
and
to
the
public
as
well.
We
will
be
having
the
second
part
of
our
cases
for
July
at
the
Wednesday
July
12th
public
hearing
at
5,
30
PM,
so
we're
just
handling
part
of
the
application
cycle
at
this
evening's
hearing.
H
Also
for
this
evening,
I
do
have
the
June
staff
approvals,
which
are
going
to
be
entered
into
the
record
and
we'll
do
a
motion
for
those
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
in
your
packets.
There
are
some
a
couple
of
flyers
for
different
events
that
are
occurring
this
week.
H
It
is
archives,
awareness
week,
it's
the
136th
birthday
for
the
city
of
Tampa's,
incorporation,
beginning
in
in
July,
15th
of
1887.,
so
166
36
years,
and
there's
a
number
of
celebrations
that
are
going
on
this
week
and
you
have
a
pamphlet
in
your
packet
that
will
kind
of
go
over
those
and
anyone
interested
can
also
visit
visit.
The
city
of
Tampa
website
at
tampagov.net,
with
that
I
think
we're
ready
for
the
disclosure
of
conflicts
of
interest
and
ex
parte
communication,
and
our
legal
counsel
handle
that
kamaria.
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I
You
Furthermore
with
the
Commissioners,
please
State,
on
the
record
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte
Communications
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda.
D
H
B
H
Do
and
with
that,
we
are
ready
for
the
first
case,
Arc
22,
180
and
Miss
Lund
will
introduce
you
to
that
case.
J
J
J
So
we're
looking
here
at
the
location
map
of
the
Seminole
Heights
historic
district.
This
map
shows
you
the
boundaries
of
the
National
Historic
District
in
blue
and
the
local
Historic
District
boundaries
are
shown
in
red.
The
location
of
the
subject.
Property
is
in
green,
about
Midway
up
the
district.
J
J
This
is
looking
to
the
at
the
East
side
of
the
property.
J
Looking
directly
to
the
West,
this
is
a
view
from
mohawk
to
the
the
corner
lot,
which
actually
faces
Central
Avenue.
J
This
is
looking
across
the
street
and
the
parking
lot
for
the
I
believe
a
hair
salon
that
is
across
the
street.
J
J
J
H
Good
evening,
Commissioners
once
again,
Dennis
Fernandez
Architects
review
and
historic
preservation
manager.
Just
to
give
you
some
context
for
the
review
this
evening.
Some
of
you
may
recall
that
this
request
came
before
you
last
year
in
the
form
of
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
review
within
the
Seminole
Heights
design
guidelines.
It
does
or
prohibit
front
yard
fences
located
in
the
front
which
would
be
beyond
the
front
setback
of
the
house
towards
the
street
fence.
Installation
is
an
assignment
that's
delegated
to
the
staff.
H
However,
with
these
types
of
requests
goes
beyond
the
staff's
authority
to
review
when
this
came
through
originally
in
July
of
2022,
it
was
denied
and
an
appeal
was
filed
subsequently
before
City
Council.
In
reviewing
this
internally
with
different
administrative
agencies,
we
determined
that
the
nature
of
this
request
really
was
should
have
been
a
processed
with
the
ability
of
the
applicant
to
request
a
variance
to
the
design
guidelines
for
the
portion
that
prohibits
front
yard
fences.
H
K
K
So
we
both
reside
at
the
residence.
This
is
I
to
explain
the
hardship
of
our
location,
so
here's
just
a
picture
of
the
home.
A
lane
kind
of
already
went
over
that-
and
this
is
the
survey
just
kind
of
giving
some
boundary
information
and
whatnot
we'll
go
through
these
pretty
quick
I.
This
just
shows
our
home
in
relation
to
all
the
commercial
businesses
in
the
surrounding
area.
You.
L
Can
see
the
uniqueness
we
kind
of
showed
this
the
overview
uniqueness
of
the
home
here
with
it
being
surrounded
by
the
commercial
properties,
you
can
see,
there's
an
abandoned
building
and
then
the
proximity
to
the
interstate
and
then
the
off-ramp.
You
got
the
feeling,
the
mouse
yeah
so
that
you
could
see
where
the
external
hardship
we're
talking
about
here
is
that
a
lot
of
the
homeless
people
they
the
Panhandle
here
at
the
intersection
here
and
then
with
the
abandoned
building
and
the
commercial
properties.
L
K
I'm,
not
sure
I'll
run
through
this
pretty
quick.
But
this
is
just
a
drone
video
which
I
don't
really
need
to
go
over
much
since
she
already
went
over
a
lot
of
it,
but
that's
the
fence
right
there.
That's
where
a
lot
of
this
takes
place.
K
This
is
kind
of
a
video
up
above
showing
the
area
and,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
homeless
person
in
there
as
I
took
those
here's
just
some
pictures
of
what
we're
talking
about
they're,
constantly
walking
through
there
doing
a
lot
of
drugs.
This
was
actually
taken
from
a
camera.
I
have
placed
up
above
the
area
because
they're
constantly
back
there,
but
there
was
prostitution
going
on
when
I
took
that
photo
this
man.
Can
you
explain
that.
L
A
L
He
was
throwing
stuff
at
the
salon.
Where
he's
like
hanging
out
right
there,
one
of
the
guidelines
to
the
power
lines.
He
was
actually
trying
to
pull
it
down
and
everything.
So
he,
the
cops,
actually
did
come
and
eventually
arrest
this
person
because
he
did
actually
walk
down
right
next
to
our
property
and
walk
down
that
alley.
That's
where
they
eventually
arrested.
K
Him
this
is
just
another
location
across
from
the
fence
that
they
like
to
hide
and
hang
out.
Here's
actually
a
video
of
me.
Oh
no,
sorry,
this
isn't
the
video
of
me.
This
is
the
man
outside
who
you
can
see
is
highly
impaired.
K
K
Okay,
as
we're
recording,
he
proceeds
to
eventually
go
down
the
alley
that
we've
shown
you
numerous
times.
It's.
C
K
So
he
goes
right
behind
the
the
fence
area
here
into
I
took
a
picture
of
it
later,
but
that's
where
he
was
hiding
out.
K
So
here's
another
video
I
sped
it
up
for
time
purposes.
You
can
clearly
see
this
man
is
in
front
of
my
home
and
remind
you.
I
have
children
in
my
home
who
do
see
this,
but
this
is
taken
from
our
porch
and
he's
clearly
injecting
drugs.
K
Moving
on
here
is
another
video
of
two
men
doing
drugs
right
outside
the
home.
Again,
you
can
see
my
fences
right
here,
and
this
is
sped
up
for
tarp.
This
is
but
they're
just
sitting
there
in
broad
daylight,
injecting.
K
Okay,
moving
on
this
is
me
actually
outside
doing
yard.
Work,
I'm,
gonna,
skip
past
the
front
here
and
as
I'm
coming
in
I
came
in
because
I
saw
this
guy
come
down
the
little
Alleyway
there
and
he
stops
and
is
asking
me
for
money
and
I'm
I
clearly
tell
him
gnome,
but
this
is
what
we
get
all
the
time:
people
that
are
impaired
coming
up
to
us
as
we're
outside
doing
our
own
thing.
They're
constantly
coming
up.
K
So
it's
definitely
used
as
protection.
In
my
opinion,
this
is
just
a
couple:
videos
of
more
people,
sleeping
in
Ginger's,
front
yard
or
I'm.
Sorry
in
the
parking
lot.
This
just
shows
a
man
who
was
sleeping
there
with
all
this
stuff
and
about
four
or
five
six
police
officers
came
out.
They
eventually
arrested
him.
He
became
aggressive
with
police.
K
K
Here's
just
some
video
real
quick
of
me
coming
home
and
as
I
was
coming
home,
there
were
three
homeless
people
just
standing
at
the
edge
or
at
the
end
of
the
street,
where
they
like
to
oh
wait.
Where'd,
the
other
video
go.
Oh,
okay!
Sorry,
that's
that's
another
person
just
sleeping
on
the
at
the
end
there
and
it
shows
you
the
relation
to
the
home.
This
is
actually
a
video
that
I
took
of
an
intruder
in
my
backyard
at
3am,
when
I
was
home
alone
I,
he
decided
to
come
into
my
backyard.
K
A
K
Here's
the
original
complaint
of
the
fence,
which,
if
you
look
here
at
the
bottom
I
all
it
mentions,
is
that
this
is
what
happens
when
you
approve
too
big
of
a
house
on
half
of
a
lot.
This
is
more.
K
L
Can
actually
Tampa-
we
just
put
this
in
here,
because
Tampa
does
Define
the
purpose
of
having
a
fence,
and
if
you
read
in
the
highlighted
area,
it's
for
protection
of
property,
which
we've
obviously
shown
and
then
the
Assurance
of
Safety
and
Security.
We
just
wanted
to
add
that
in
there
I
think
it
kind
of
shows
the
sums.
L
H
K
So
basically,
this
just
states
that
yet
the
hardship
that
we're
dealing
with
specifically
is
due
to
all
the
commercial
buildings
surrounding
my
home.
There
are
no
other
residences
down
that
street.
It's
just
mine
and
with
that
being
said,
the
homeless
population.
K
That
is
just
a
perfect
breeding
ground
for
them
to
gather
and
do
all
their
things
so
number
two,
the
variance
is
not
self-created.
I,
obviously
didn't
create
this
or
bring
this
upon
myself.
This
is
due
to
you
know:
circumstances
I
have
no
control
over
number
three.
K
It
doesn't
interfere
with
the
health,
safety
or
welfare
of
others.
If
anything,
it
provides
safety
number
four,
the
intent
for
this
chapter
of
equity,
so
yeah.
This
basically
just
says
that
it
would
provide
relief
when
challenged
by
the
unusual
and
extraordinary
conditions
it
basically
like
I
already
mentioned
it,
provides
a
safety
precaution
towards
the
homeless
population
and
yeah.
K
I
think
that
it's
it's
just
provide
us
with
the
approval
just
because
we
are
tax,
paying
citizens,
and
it
doesn't
seem
fair
to
me
that
I
as
a
tax,
paying
citizen
that
the
city
isn't
supporting
me
in
my
my
what
am
I
trying
to
say
in
my
search
for
basically
protection,
it
seems
to
be
reasonable
that
the
board
would
Grant
us
the
approval
for
the
fence,
based
on
the
circumstances
provided.
D
You
now
this
time,
I
guess
we'll
ask
questions.
D
All
right,
so
you
know
one
now
we
can
ask
our
questions.
We'll
start
here
with
our
on
the
far
left
here
with
commissioner
pro
cop
I'll.
F
I
will
Reserve
any
possible
questions
for
later.
G
To
the
applicant,
do
you
have
any
particular
evidence
of
front
yard
fences
in
the
Seminole
Heights
historic
district,
in
proximity
to
your
property
side
or
for
that
matter
in
any
other
particular
location?
G
A
I
Kamaria
pedisnako
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
commissioner
Sutton.
This
is
here
on
your
agenda
for
a
variance
request.
So
it's
the
applicant's
burden
to
do
determine
the
hardship
criteria.
That's
unique
and
singular
to
her
property.
So
we
have
I
would
encourage
the
commission
to
focus
on
whether
or
not
the
applicant
has
met
the
hardship
criteria
as
outlined
in
your
staff
reports.
That's
missioning
code,
section,
2,
27-114,.
K
K
If
you
want
me
to
pull
that
up,
I
think
I
still
have
it
on
here.
You.
K
A
A
K
K
K
The
historic
district,
the
map
I
specifically
provided,
showed
on
the
map,
their
location,
and
then
here
are
some
additional
ones,
as
you
can
see
they're
some
a
lot
of
them
are
just
chain
link
fences
which
I,
don't
think
goes
along
with
the
historic
district.
In
my
opinion,
but
just
my
opinion.
D
D
H
Hi
Dennis
Fernandez
architecture
and
historic
preservation,
manager,
I'm
I'm,
not
familiar
with
all
these
by
sight.
There
are
some
front
yard
fences
that
are
in
the
district
that
predate
the
district's
creation
there
may
be.
You
know
there
may
be
other
ones
that
were
done
in
violation,
I'm,
not
sure
I
do
want
to
kind
of
try
to
guide
the
conversation
back
to
hardship
and
not
appropriateness,
which
this
particular
you
know,
evidence
kind
of
goes
towards,
so
just
to
kind
of
stay
focused
on
the
hardship
criteria
and
the
evidence
that's
been
presented
to
you
this
evening.
D
All
right
so
with
that
said,
because
we
are
here
for
the
location
of
the
fence
on
this
particular
property.
D
D
K
Sure
so
the
original
survey
is
like
here
so
I
think
this
does
a
better
job
of
showing
the
fence
right:
Elaine,
okay,
so
I!
The
green
is
going
to
be
the
four
foot
front,
yard
fence
here
and
then
I
have
a
six
foot
Saint
similar
fence
this
back
in
the
I'm.
Sorry
on
the
side
towards
the
rear
of
the
home,
and
then
the
blue
is
going
to
be
a
neighboring
fence
which
the
backyard
Neighbors.
L
No,
they
actually
went
through
that
back
gate,
which
we
normally
lock
and
that
night
she
did
not
lock
in.
He
actually
just
came
right
in
right
and
hence
the
front
fence
is
able
to
be
locked
as
well.
We
actually
keep
the
lock
out
there.
We
just
take
it
off
during
the
day,
so
the
mailman
can
come
in
and
out.
L
D
D
K
D
D
Person
no
I
get
that
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
idea
of
kind
of
how
we
got
here
so
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
As
far
as
my
questions
did
you
have
anything
else.
D
F
H
There
there
should
be
notation
within
the
closing
documents
that
there's
restrictions
for
a
historic
district.
When
you
are
purchasing
closing
on
a
house.
However,
a
permit
is
not
required
for
offense
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
that
is
of
a
code
compliant
nature,
the
within
the
city
of
Tampa.
You
can
actually
have
front
yard
fences
up
to
four
feet
high,
depending
on
the
design.
However,
that
requirement
is
prohibited
in
the
historic
district
and
Seminole
Heights
historic
district.
Other
historic
districts
allow
front
yard
fences
like
Ybor
City,
where
there's
a
pattern
of
them.
H
That's
delineated
in
the
the
seminarized
guidelines,
foreign.
F
I
F
I
F
D
Well,
if
there's
no
further
questions,
then
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
L
I
think
I
think
we've
kind
of
shown
you
guys
in
the
video
in
the
presentation,
the
hardship,
I
think
when
she
was
talking.
You
asked
her
if
she
knew
about
the
homeless
population
beforehand,
I,
don't
when
we
saw
the
house,
but
we
I.
L
You
go
and
buy
a
house,
you
see
it
maybe
three
times
before
you
ever
actually
live
in
it.
That
was
never
an
issue
beforehand.
So
right
I
think
we
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
A
L
L
Actually
put
in
the
official
Complaint
and,
as
you
guys
saw
they're
more
upset
that
the
house
was
built
as
opposed
to
the
fence.
You
know
so
that's
why
we're
here
now
asking
for
variants
and.
K
I
did
actually
specifically
asked
the
fence
company
numerous
times
after
the
fact
after
I
learned
that
it
wasn't
you
weren't
able
to
have
a
front
yard
fence,
I
asked
them
why
they
even
installed
it
and
they
were
like
you,
don't
need
a
permit
in
Tampa.
Do
Frontier
Representatives.
We
do
them
all
the
time.
So
we
had
absolutely
no
idea
and
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
too.
That
I
believe
that
the
look
of
the
fence
is
I
would
say,
definitely
goes
in.
K
The
yeah,
the
historic
guidelines,
more
than
any
of
these
other
fences
that
are
in
the
area.
It
is
a
wood
fence
which
the
the
Tampa
guidelines
States
is
most
appropriate
as
a
front
yard
fan.
So
that's,
basically,
all
I
have
I.
F
E
I
I
O
I
This
is
again,
this
is
kamaria
pedis
knuckle
for
the
record.
This
is
not
about
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
about
a
design
of
of
any
of
the
fence,
or
anything
like
that.
This
is
just
whether
or
not
they
presented
evidence
to
prove
a
hardship
for
the
fence
in
the
front
yard.
This
is
all
this.
That's
before
you.
A
H
K
So
I
would
like
to
say
that
Hedges
I
don't
agree
that
Hedges
would
do
the
job
that
we're
looking
for,
which
is
specifically
for
to.
K
Security
and
protection,
I,
don't
think
hedging
is
exactly
the
same
as
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
today
for
the
funds
you
can't
lock
it.
L
L
Of
being
able
to
come
all
the
way
up
to
the
front
porch
or
up
to
the
front
door
or
whatever
they
would
want
to,
they
actually
do
stop
at
defense.
It
does
create
that
physical
mental
barrier
for
them.
Also,
too,
you
can
see
she
kind
of
escaped
into
the
fence
if
somebody
were
to
come
and
try
to
do
something.
At
least
you
have
that
extra
few
seconds
to
maybe
get
into
the
house
because
they
have
to
either
open
the
fence,
get
in
it
jump
over
it.
Anything
like
that.
K
D
G
Ordinarily,
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
variances,
usually
when
they
spring
out
of
some
manner
of
self-inflicted
matter.
However,
it's
not
like
I
have
to
point
this
out
to
my
fellow
Commissioners
that
the
first
item
under
alleged
hardships,
respect
the
unique
and
singular
matter
of
that
hardship
with
respect
to
the
property.
G
G
Quite
regarded
as
a
no
man's
land
in
many
respects,
there's
a
lot
of
commercial
activity,
a
lot
of
coming
and
going
and
a
lot
of
situations
that
people
just
don't
pay
attention
to,
because
they're
in
and
out
of
there
as
fast
as
possible.
The
applicant
lives
there
and
they
have
to
contend
with
this
on
a
daily
basis.
G
E
D
E
E
There
is
actually,
you
know,
pretty
much
standing
precedent
that
Residential
Properties
adjacent
to
commercial
properties.
You
have
fences
between
those
two
uses,
regardless
of
whether
they're
in
the
historic
district
or
not,.
E
A
I
E
One
like
no
one
likes
to
give
exceptions
that
are
permanent.
That
and
I
think
there's
also
a
little
bit
of
hesitation
on
our
part,
because
we're
rewarding
somebody
who
did
something
without
a
permit
or
prior
review.
D
G
D
The
attitude
was
totally
different
with
these
people,
I
mean
there's
some
humility
here
that
I
I've
since
and
I,
don't
think
that
they
I
mean
from
what
I
heard
they
relied
on
their
fence,
contractor
to
steer
them
a
direction
and
the
fence
contractor
obviously
either
didn't
know
didn't
care
whatever
the
case
may
be
so
there's
a
human
aspect
to
this.
That
is
a
little
different.
In
most
cases
we
might
see
well.
D
D
F
I
Just
as
a
reminder,
while
you
guys
are
discussing
this,
this
application
is
I've
heard
several
comments
about
other
fences
throughout
the
district
again,
this
application
is
only
focused
on
the
hardship
for
this
property
and
not
about
other
properties.
So
if
you
can
focus
your
attention
on
yeah.
E
I
D
That
answer
is
pretty
simple:
it's
yes,
but
they
they
built
the
fence
so
that
what
I
mean
by
that
is
thus
had
they
not
built
the
fence
they
wouldn't
be
here
tonight,
but
they
built
it
to
keep
this
transient
Community
out
of
their
front
yard.
Now
without
the
front
yard
fence,
obviously,
hopefully
they
can
still
lock
their
Gates
and
utilize
their
backyard.
D
E
And
and
I
think
we
all
understand
yeah
that
that
this
is
something
that
one
you
know
before:
I
buy
a
property.
I
would
certainly
be
in
in
the
neighborhood
at
night
to
see
what
the
neighborhood
is
like
at
night,
yeah,
multiple
times
before,
I,
even
rent
in
a
property.
You
know
in
a
neighborhood,
certainly
do
that
I
drive
through
multiple
times
a
day,
but.
E
D
Yeah
I
mean
at
this
community
were
to
decide
that
another
location
is
better
for
their
needs
and
they're
going
to
move
I
mean
and
then
that,
like
you,
said
this,
this
is
no
longer
an
issue
at
this
particular
location
in
town.
Who
knows,
but
that's
not
our
job,
there's
other
people
in
the
city
that
should
be
enforcing
that
not
us
I.
E
G
F
G
Based
upon
the
petitioner
meeting
the
burden
of
proof
with
respect
to
the
six
hardships
of
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-114,
subsection,
D
of
the
city
of
Tampa,
code
of
ordinances,
granting
variances
as
stated
and
evidence
provided
in
this
public
hearing,
specifically
that
the
applicant
has
AIDS
sufficiently
presentation
outlining
hardships
and
practical
difficulties
that
are
unique
to
this
particular
site.
In
this
particular
location.
E
I,
can't
even
read
that
word:
Mohawk
Avenue,
East,
Mohawk,
Avenue
for
a
front
yard
fence,
be
denied
due
to
the
failure
of
petitioner
to
meet
the
burden.
Proof
with
regard
to
the
six
hardship
criteria,
I
set
forward
in
section
27-114
D
of
the
city
of
Tampa
code.
Wardens
is
specifically
that
the
hardship
is
that
the
neighborhood
is
not
a
good
neighborhood
and
that
it
doesn't
meet
the
criteria
for
hardship.
D
H
So,
according
to
your
Rosary
procedure,
unless
there's
someone
who's
in
interested
in
changing
their
vote,
this
would
be
automatically
continue
to
the
next
public
Hearing
in
August.
H
Okay,
so
then
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
plan
on
August,
9th.
O
Good
evening,
commissioner
Ron
villam
staff
with
historic
preservation.
The
next
two
agenda
items
have
the
same
address
at
1902,
North,
Howard,
Avenue
I
spoke
to
the
agent
and
the
owner.
We
are
going
to
address
these
one
at
a
time.
One
is
for
their
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
we're
going
to
hear
first,
which
is
Arc
23-311.
O
O
O
So
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
photo
essay.
These
will
be
here
for
you
to
review
for
the
remainder
of
this
case
and
for
the
next
case,
I'm
not
going
to
do
an
additional
photo
presentation,
it's
just
redundant,
so
this
is
West
Tampa
I'm
gonna
spend
a
little
time
with
the
orientation
property
in
question
is,
is
here
it's
on
the
corner
of
Chestnut
and
Howard.
Some
of
the
main
corridors
in
West
Tampa
is
Main
Street.
This
is
just
a
couple
blocks
north
of
Main
Street
as
I
stayed
in
the
corner.
O
The
red
indicates
that
this
was
brick
construction,
the
overall
vernacular
the
building
takes
on
the
the
building
materials
as
it
once
did.
They
are
some
structures,
and
you
see
the
the
the
inventory
from
1929
to
the
Sanborn
shows
these
two
structures
have
been
removed,
and
now
that
sits
as
as
parking
area
for
the
subject,
site
and
I'll
show
some
additional
photos.
O
Once
again,
you
have
Main
Street
as
a
reference
point
two
blocks
south
of
the
septic
site
as
you
go
north
from
Main
Street
to
Chestnut,
it's
on
the
western
portion
of
of
Howard
Avenue.
Just
a
little
closer.
You
see
the
concentration
of
the
historic
Fabrics
within
the
national
boundaries
of
West
Tampa
and
then
moving
to
look
at
a
more
current
aerial
property
question.
Once
again,
a
corner
of
Chestnut
and
Howard.
O
Moving
forward
to
the
subject
site,
this
is
the
primary
facade
which
faces
Howard
Avenue.
You
see
that
there
has
been
some
modifications
to
The
Pedestrian
level,
the
first
floor,
how
it's
changed,
the
storefronts
have
been
modified,
the
entrances
have
been
modified
on
the
lower
level.
There's
been
some
stucco
applied,
the
iron
columns
are
still
prevalent
and
exposed
as
they
should
be.
O
O
Howard
Avenue
is
a
one-way
Street
heading
to
the
north.
There
is
some
parallel
parking
along
Howard
Avenue,
and
this
is
looking
at
Howard
Avenue
to
the
north
subject.
Site
is
on
the
left
directly
across
the
street.
You
see
that
there
is
some
historic
fabric
that
Still
Remains
going
back
to
the
subject
site.
O
O
The
rest
of
it
on
the
first
floor
has
been
modified.
You
have
an
entrance
to
the
to
the
rear
on
that
elevation.
You
see
on
the
top
that
the
the
window,
the
proportions,
have
been
modified
and
enclosed,
but
in
in
a
manner
that
one
would
tell
what
was
there
and
the
re-implementation
of
the
of
the
window.
Sizes
and
materials
are
part
of
the
request
this
evening.
O
This
is
looking
at
that
other
entrance
on
the
secondary
elevation,
and
then
there
is
a
perimeter
wall
around
the
parking
that
we'll
get
to
in
a
minute
just
focusing
on
the
front
elevation.
This
is
the
northern
portion
and
then
there's
an
alley
that
bisects
that
that
block
along
the
alley
there
on
The
Pedestrian
level.
On
the
first
floor,
there
is
an
opening
on
the
rear
and
then
the
windows
up
top
have
been
modified.
O
The
alley
is
a
usable
alley
and
it's
been
traversed
by
vehicles
going
back
to
the
parking
area.
You
have
your
your
perimeter
wall,
you
do
have
an
automated
gate
here.
This
will
be
the
parking
area,
and
then
you
see
the
back
elevation.
O
Looking
into
the
parking
area
from
Chestnut,
you
have
the
fence
with
the
gate,
that's
open
and
then
to
conclude
the
photo
presentation.
That's
just
the
surface
of
the
parking
area
as
it
exists
today.
Just
to
remind
you
we're
going
to
focus
on
the
first
request.
That's
coming
up.
This
is
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
exterior
elevation
and
site
improvements.
Once
they
finish,
the
presentation
then
we'll
go
to
the
ad
alarm.
That's
going
to
follow
this
presentation
at
this
time.
I'll
have
the
agent
come
up
and
the
owner
addressed
the
board.
M
N
N
So
part
of
our
team.
Stephanie
you
just
met
I
just
saw
she's
our
historic
preservation
consultant
for
the
project.
We've
also
retained
the
Architecture
Firm
of
Fleischmann
Garcia
maslowski,
and
tonight
we
have
Ken
Zucker
and
Derek
Ray.
Here
from
the
Architecture
Firm.
We
also
have
Beth
Garcia
who's,
our
interior
designer
for
the
project,
so
you're
here
to
answer
any
questions
but
I'm
going
to
be
giving
the
presentation
and
walk
you
through
the
different
elements.
N
As
Mr
Villa
said,
the
location
is
at
1902
North
Howard
Avenue,
which
is
Howard
Avenue,
just
north
of
the
interstate
into
West
Tampa,
just
past
Main
Street,
you've
got
the
public
library
and
you've
got
the
the
post
office
and
it's
just
a
couple
more
buildings
up.
It
used
to
be
the
Bonnie
doors
building.
If
you
ever
drove
by
there,
they
was.
He
was
in
business
for
about
50
years
there
we
purchased
the
property
and
decided
to
take
it
on
the
project,
to
restore
it
and
bring
it
back
to
its
original
grandeur.
N
So
I'm
not
sure
if
you're
familiar
familiar
with
the
history
of
West
Tampa,
but
back
in
the
late
1800s
Hugh
McFarland
came
to
Tampa
became
a
very
prominent
person
in
town
and
became
the
City
attorney
and
the
state
attorney
in
town
there's.
Actually,
a
law
firm
in
town
still
today
called
McFarland
Ferguson's
named
after
him.
He
may
be
familiar
with
McFarland
Park,
so.
N
He
was
known
as
the
father
of
West
Tampa.
He
decided
to
buy
200
Acres
west
of
the
Hillsborough
River
and
he
Incorporated
a
brand
new
city
called
West
Tampa,
and
his
idea
was
to
kind
of
compete
with
Ybor
City
in
the
cigar
industry.
So
he
would
approach
manufacturers
and
have
them
come
to
West
Tampa
and
he
would
build
a
factory
for
them
and
then
he
decided
he
would
sell
residential
lots
to
their
workers.
N
N
N
N
This
be
the.
This
is
the
parking
area,
and
this
is
the
structure
that
the
main
structure
of
the
building-
it's
a
two-story
red
brick
structure.
Originally
the
building
had
three
skylights
and
we're
going
to
reintroduce
the
skylights
on
the
top
of
the
building.
It
is
enclosed
with
a
six
foot
concrete
block
wall
currently.
N
N
N
Here's
one
of
the
historic
photos
of
the
building
we
weren't
able
to
find
a
whole
lot
of
historic
photos
of
it.
There
weren't
a
whole
lot
that
were
direct
shots
of
the
building,
but
if
you
do
notice
on
here,
the
the
window
pattern
the
light
pattern,
it's
a
two
over
two
and
that's
the
type
of
window
that
we're
going
to
reintroduce
to
the
property.
N
So
this
will
show
you
in
red
the
elements
that
we'll
be
removing
that
we'll
be
removing
all
the
non-historic
aspects
of
the
building.
It
currently
has
aluminum
windows
in
there
that
we'll
be
removing
and
the
storefronts
the
doors
used
to
be
inset
on
the
front
on
the
front.
On
the
first
floor,
elevation
someone
over
time
had
brought
this
all
away
flush,
so
we're
going
to
remove
all
those
and
inset
the
doors
again.
N
This
is
a
representation.
This
is
not
the
exact
way
we're
going
to
have
it,
but
this
is
a
building,
an
Ebor
city
that
was
recently
approved,
but
this
is
this
is
kind
of
the
thought
process
having
the
inside
doors
with
the
low
wall
and
the
the
transom
Windows
above,
and
this
also
will
show
you
the
two
over
two
windows.
N
N
N
This
is
the
proposed
for
elevation
from
the
parking
lot
from
the
rear
of
the
property.
N
N
N
N
N
N
O
G
O
Look
forward
and
you
review
a
project
that
is
bringing
life
back
to
the
the
building.
We
use
the
historic
photos
as
a
precedent.
This
is
one
photo
I,
don't
recall
seeing,
but
it
shows
the
relationship
of
the
storefront
to
the
The
Pedestrian,
the
sidewalk,
that's
there
and
then
the
vernacular
the
whole
building,
how
it
hugs
the
corner
very
important
to
keep
those
architectural
elements
in
place
as
you
can.
O
The
building
has
been
altered
over
over
time
and
that's
why
that
historic
photo
I
think
if
we
need
to
go
back
to
that,
it
will
draw
some
inspiration,
so
staff
finder
is
consistent
with
the
following
conditions.
When
we
review
the
plans
to
discuss
the
rehabilitation
details
that
are
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
I
believe
he
went
through
the
majority
of
those.
There
is
the
encroachment
of
the
Balkan
balcony
on
the
south.
Elevation
staff
found
no
evidence
that
that
had
been
vested
into
it.
O
Is
it
going
to
be
embellished
at
all
the
gates
that
there
the
surface
and
then
the
solid
waste
location
was
discussed
that
prior
meetings
that
we
had
internally
with
City
staff,
and
that
should
be
discussed
this
evening,
the
location
of
the
signage
he
talked
about
the
historic
signage,
that's
embellished
into
the
front
elevation
if
they
have
any
direction
on
signage,
they
should
be
talked
about
today
or
we
could
handle
that,
maybe
at
a
later
date,
I,
don't
know
how
far
it's
been
discussed.
O
The
entrance
at
the
storefront
there's
a
transition
from
the
sidewalk,
as
you
have
your
recess
entrance
that
there's
usually
some
kind
of
Penny,
Tower
or
hex
towels.
As
you
come
in
a
lot
of
times,
they
have
a
border,
that's
very
period
appropriate.
Sometimes
it
has
the
address.
It
has
the
name
of
the
building,
there's
different
treatments
that
you
could
do
there,
so
that
needs
to
be
discussed.
I
think
that's
very
important
for
the
success
of
this
building
moving
forward
and
how
it
interacts
with
the
people
walking
up
and
down
the
street
on
the
plans.
O
It
showed
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
PVC
molding
at
the
at
the
storefront
at
the
lower
bulkhead
and
some
of
the
surrounds.
That's
usually
a
foreign
material,
as
somebody
is
coming
forward
with
the
ad
valorem
and
that's
at
a
later
date.
But
it's
going
to
kind
of
piggyback
on
this.
So
I
think
this
should
be
discussed
at
this
time
with
the
exterior
materials
and
he
did
show
a
section.
So
if
you
want
him
to
go
through
the
Section
a
little
more
details,
he
can
do
that
as
well.
O
I
think
it's
important
also
for
the
success
of
this
building.
So
the
first
floor
has
some
stucco
once
the
stucco
is
removed,
that
staff
needs
to
go
back
out
there
and
revisit
it
to
see
exactly
what
condition
the
brick
is.
You
know
under
the
the
mortar,
all
of
that,
so
at
the
time
we
usually
have
them
take
some
of
the
the
stucco
off
and
then
we'll
engage
in
additional
conversation.
O
O
D
Okay,
at
this
time,
do
we
have
any
one
in
the
audience
for
public
comment.
D
All
right
seeing
none
now
we
will
ask
questions
and
we'll
let
commissioner
Sutton
start.
Thank
you.
G
Very
much
the
petitioner
would
please
come
forward.
G
First
of
all,
regarding
the
balcony
and
its
encroachment
on
on
the
right-of-way,
have
you
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
anyone
with
respect
to
the
nature
of
this
encroachment
at
the
city
at
the
city
of
Tampa
level?
At
this
point
in
time,
because
it's
an
unusual
feature
the
way
it's
just
hanging
out
there
in
that.
In
that
respect,
usually
we
see
some
of
these
things.
G
N
C
N
There
is
provision
in
there
about
the
about
the
balcony.
N
G
Let's
talk
about
your
enclosed
parking
area.
Can
you
run
down
to
us
all
the
details
that
are
of
concern
this
one,
such
as
a
final
fit
and
finish
of
your
wall
Gates?
How
this
interior
would
be
enclosed
area
be
allocated
and
utilized?
Do
you
have
information
at
that
about
that?
At
this
point
in
time,
yeah.
N
N
H
G
N
N
G
N
G
A
G
Just
a
few
more
please
signage,
you
indicated
your
intent
to
deal
with
the
existing
signage.
That's
on
the
building
historic
fabric.
Have
you
I
know
you're
doing
an
awful
lot
of
work
with
that
storefront?
That's
on
the
existing
building.
Have
you
made
any
significant
thought
at
this
point
in
time
about
how
are
you
going
to
be
dealing
with
individual
tenant
signage?
In
that
respect,
we
really
haven't.
N
At
this
point
we
haven't
gotten
along
that
far
I
mean
one
thought
was
just
to
do
it
on
the
glass
above
the
front
doors
do
lettering
or
numbering
up
there.
But
if
there's
going
to
be
any
more
exterior
signage
attached
to
the
building,
then
we
would
do
you
know,
go
through
staff
and
get
all
that
approved.
If
we
need
to
come
back
for
the
board,
we
will.
E
Any
questions
hey
I'm,
very
familiar
with
this
building.
Do
you
know
when
the
building
was
stuck
code?
Is.
B
E
E
E
E
E
Yeah
you
need
to
zoom
in
as
close
as
you
can
to
that,
so
we
can
see
as
much
as
possible,
so
I
do
see
once
I,
I,
guess,
I
see
the
recessed
storefront
just
to
the
right
of
the
stop
sign
it's
hard
to
read.
What's
going
on
on
the
other
three.
M
If
I
can
interrupt
you,
if
and
I
only
have
one
photograph
that
shows
one
of
the
doorways
and
it
does
show
sort
of
the
pattern
of
the
inset
and,
and
you
pardon
the
photograph,
because
it's
pretty
it
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
detail
to
it,
but
I'll
put
it
down
anywhere
and
it
just
can
explain
it.
So
this
is
the
pattern
of
the
of
the
inset
right
here.
It
is,
of
course,
it's
covered
with
a
lot
of
debris
and
and
dirt.
M
This
was
the
door
storage
as
a
door
store
right
so
that
each
of
those
entrances
actually
has
that
same
pattern.
In
the
concrete.
M
E
Great
and
you're
intending
to
put
tile
on
those
floors
is
there
a
floor
pattern
for
those
it's.
M
E
Okay,
have
you
got
the
specification
for
how
you're
going
to
try
to
remove
the
stucco
from
that
brick?
Do
you
do
you
know
of
a
manner
that
you're
going
to
try
to
do
it
because
I
mean
it's?
If
it's
been
there
for
50
years,
it's
pretty
much
bonded
to
that
soft
Old
Brick
and
when
you
pull
off
the
stucco
you're,
basically
going
to
pull
off
the
brick
right
you're
going
to
remove
the
brick.
N
E
Okay,
it's
that's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
critical
to
the
success
of
whether
or
not
you
can
even
I
I'm,
just
speaking
from
from
historic
preservationist
as
to
whether
or
not
it's
even
feasible,
to
actually
try
to
take
that
stucco
off
right.
It
could
cause
more
damage
to
the
building
than
leaving
it
in
place
right
and
I'm
concerned
about
that
and.
E
C
E
And
do
you
I
in
all
my
research
in
this
building
I've,
never
I've
actually
read
that
McFarlane
didn't
build
it,
but
that
it
was
named
after
him
or
that
he
occupied
it.
But
I
was
just
curious
if
you
had
any
record
on
whether
or
not
he
had
I'm.
E
Yeah
I've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
with
the
McFarlane
history
and
what
he's
done
for
for
West,
Tampa,
well,
I
guess.
The
only
other
thing
I
really
had
to
question
is
the
period
appropriate
light
fixture
that
you
proposed
for
the
exterior
it.
It
just
looks
horrible,
okay,.
E
I
would
much
rather
see
honestly
I'd
much
rather
see
a
very
elegant,
modern
light
fixture
even
to
distinguish
the
fact
that
that
who
knows
where
these
historic
light
fixtures
were,
and
that's
probably
not
what
they
were
used
right.
That
I'd
rather
see
something
that
you
put
up
today.
That's
elegant
and
simple,
and
doesn't
detract
from
this
the
actual
historic
fabric
of
the
building
that
then
that
frilly
thing
all.
E
Yeah
very
good
I
guess:
that's
the
only
questions
I
had.
F
M
Can
pressure
wash
you
just
have
to
use
a
light
pressure
and
and
obviously
no
sandblasting,
nothing,
nothing
abrasive.
You
see
you
can
you
can
clean
according
to
the
Secretary
of
the
Interiors?
Basically,
the
National
Park
Service
preservation
briefs
allow
for
cleaning.
M
F
And
your
double
hung
windows
will
the
functionality
of
the
double
hung
window
that
has
no
screen
on
the
outside
is
a
question,
but
I
know
that
at
the
time
screens
were
not
put
on
them,
am
I
correct
in
that.
F
And
is
it
permissible,
in
your
opinion,
to
use
any
other
material
rather
than
wood
in
these
windows?
If
it,
if
the
size
of
the
light
is
not
compromised.
M
M
F
N
M
A
N
M
C
M
So
you'll
see
the
metal.
You
know
that
which
is
you
know,
which
is
definitely
appropriate.
D
D
All
right,
so
my
next
question
stay
in
at
the
roof
line.
Is
there
on
the
parapet?
Is
there
any?
What's
your
thought
process
to
finish
around
the
parapet
or
you're
just
going
to
leave
it,
as
is
you
mentioned
a
flat
roof?
Sometimes
those
roofs
come
up
and
over
and
there's
coping
and
some
other
things
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
idea
of
what
the
plan
is
for
that.
D
N
So
we
are
proposing
a
spray
poly
polyurethane
foam,
roof,
we've
put
them
on
about
15
different
buildings
and
they
they
just
spray
on
there
later
and
it
comes
up
the
parapet
wall
and
stops
right
at
the
face
of
the
of
the
wall.
So
you
you
won't
see
it
from
the
street
or
from
the
you
know,
the
exterior
elevations.
So.
D
M
C
D
N
D
D
D
My
next
question-
probably
my
last
one-
is
back
to
the
stucco
now
I
heard
that
you
successfully
had
some
test
sites.
Are
you
working
with
someone
at
this
point?
That's
experienced
removing
this,
or
is
this
something
that
you
and
or
some
of
your
staff,
maybe
is
doing
these
test
sites
and
you're
just
seeing?
Can
it
be
done
I'm
just
trying
to
get
an
idea
here
of
what
the
mindset
is
as
far
as
who,
as
far
as
the
contractor
they're,
you
know
right,
are
they
specialized
in
this?
N
D
F
N
I
think
the
the
window
installed
I
was
talking
about
just
doing
something
over
the
metal
track
of
the
storefront
window.
So
it
you
weren't,
seeing
the.
D
A
D
A
D
O
The
roof
is
exposed
to
the
rear
because
it's
got
the
slant
and
they're
going
to
have
a
gutter
going
across
whether
the
rain
leaders.
What
we
try
to
do
in
the
past
is
to
for
for
water
intrusion
on
the
back
of
the
pear
pit,
the
roof
kind
of
comes
up
and
then
there's
different
treatments
with
some
kind
of
termination
bar
behind
the
parapet
and
we've
seen
other
successful
products
that
they
terminate
on
top
of
the
parapit,
but
there's
not
a
metal
cap.
O
Sometimes
it's
a
metal
cap,
that's
exposed
and
you
see
that
from
the
primary
elevation
I
think
that
should
be
frowned
upon,
so
there's
different
treatments
and
we
could
talk
about
you
know.
However,
he
wants
to
achieve
that.
So
as
long
as
it's
not
visible
from
the
the
two
primary
streets.
I
think
that
is
the
path
that
he
could
go
down.
Okay,.
A
E
Yeah
I've
got
a
couple
follow-ups.
One
was
we
we
need
to
know
in
this
document,
because
this
does
this
document
doesn't
State
what
the
material
is
of
anything
it
just
is
one
and
a
half
inch
molding.
It
just
is
three
quarter
inch.
Molding,
nothing
says
wood
and
I
know
in
the
elevations
that
we
can.
You
put
up
your
front
elevation.
The
street
front,
elevation,
Howard
Avenue.
E
Okay,
and
can
you
note
can
can
we
see
all
the
notes
if
these
are
the
documents
that
are
being
used
to
for
approval,
it
would
do
worth
glassing
double
on
window
pressure
wash.
So
the
notes
regarding
what
the
trim
is
have
been
removed
from
these
drawings.
There's
nothing!
That's
calling
out
what
this
trim
is.
E
E
It's
important
it's
important
one
of
the
issues
with
these
kinds
of
buildings
in
this
storefront,
and
it's
in
numerous
other
buildings
is
that
that
storefront
was
all
wood.
It
was
all
built
out
of
wood.
Originally,
the
original
fabric
is
wood,
but
wood
obviously
is
not
the
greatest.
You
know
weathering
material
for
an
exterior
of
a
giant.
You
know
storefront
window
because
of
weather,
so
most
of
the
time
these
had
canopies
over
them.
E
N
E
Again
it
they
were
there
to
protect
more
as
much
provide
shade
for
the
sidewalk.
They
were
there
to
protect
the
storefronts,
the
wood
storefronts
from
being
from
deteriorating
and
that
wood
trim.
Have
you
have
you
again
it
we're
trying
to
to
give
you
an
approval
for
something?
And
yet
there's
just
there's
a
lack
of
information
on
these
drawings.
E
Have
you
provided
or
have
you
investigated
use
of
like
an
acella,
acetylated,
wood
product
or
anything?
That's
besides.
Just
your
typical,
you
know
off-the-shelf
one
by
material.
N
I
guess
I'm
not
no
like
an
ecoyo
wood
or
something.
E
Yeah
yeah
yeah
right
have
you
can
have
you
considered
that
for
this
wood.
N
Yeah
we'd
like
to
get
it
as
you
know,
we
don't
want
it
to
deteriorate.
Obviously
you
know
it's
so
we
want
to
use
the
best
materials
we
can
use.
That's.
E
The
other
thing
the
pressure
washing
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
that
definitely
the
specifications
for
that
need
to
be
staff
approved
as
to
the
PSI
level
allowed,
and
that
kind
of
thing
and
I
am
concerned
about
the
foam
roof
going
over
the
top
of
the
parapet
and
covering
the
parapet
top
because
that,
at
you
know,
if
it's
White
and
The
Brick
is
brown.
There's
a
white
stripe
across
the
top
of
the
parapet,
so
I
I'd
be
interested.
E
I.
Think
it's
important
that
there
be
additional
details,
provided
that
show
how
far
back
from
the
top
of
the
parapet
from
the
street
edge
of
that
parapet
top
that
foam
goes
it's
again
from
other
projects
in
West
Tampa,
it's
very
visible,
along
the
tops
of
the
parapets
from
even
if
even
a
four-story
building
from
the
street,
so
I'd
be
I'd,
like
staff
to
be
able
to
have
a
say
in
where
that
foam
stops,
and
to
allow
that
brick
Edge
to
be
the
actual
line
that
you
see
right
from
the
street.
E
The
other
thing
I
do
have
a
concern
about
I,
guess
now
that
it
was
brought
up
as
the
existing
site
wall.
Is
there
any
indication
of
when
or
any
like,
Google
Earth
imagery
going
back
in
time
when
that
site
wall
was
built
along
the
back
of
the
property,
because
it's
just
it's
just
clunky
and
if
you're
improving
so
much
of
the
building
and
so
much
of
the
site,
I
think
it's
kind
of
like
a
it's.
It's
an
odd
thing
to
leave
something
so
in
compatible
right
to
the
property.
There.
E
Would
you
would
you
consider
reviewing
going
back
and
reviewing
the
construction
of
that
and
when,
if
that
was
done
just
20
years
ago,
and
is
that
really
the
appropriate
thing
to
leave
there
when
you're
spending
so
much
money
and
time
on
this
right,
restoration
that
something
may
be
more
appropriate
with
pilasters
and
and
an
open,
an
open
vertical,
you
know,
wrought
iron
or
aluminum
kind
of
fencing
material
might
be
more
appropriate.
Historically
right.
D
This
picture
here
reminded
me
to
ask
regarding
the
chimney
caps:
is
there
any
what's
what's?
Is
there
a
picture
you
could
show
us
on
that
or
I
know.
There
is
because
you
showed
it
just
a
while
ago,
but
of
how
it
exists
now
and
then,
what's
the
plan
being
we're
going
to
be
able
to
see
these
from
the
street.
D
D
N
D
D
You're
good
everyone
good
all
right.
If
that's,
if
everyone's
good
then
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
portion
of
this
I'm,
sorry,
we
need
a
rebuttal.
Yeah
I
got
lost.
N
Right
well,
obviously,
when
you
have
a
large
project
like
this,
you
may
not
have
every
detail
on
this
drawing,
but
we've
been
renovating
historic
properties
for
about
30
years
now
and
worked
very
closely
with
staff
and
we'll
continue
to
do
so
and
try
to
have
a
very
good
project.
That's
it!
E
It's
to
be
lauded
to
to
take
on
a
building
like
this
and
to
try
to
bring
it
back
to
life
and
put
it.
You
know
to
a
a
good
use
I
like
the
fact
that
you
know
that
they
do
have
some
historic
precedence
for
the
recessed
entries
that
they
found
on
the
floor
scoring
when
they,
you
know
from
the
interior.
E
E
A
G
This
is
a
this
is
ambitious,
I
mean
it's
a
small
bill,
it's
a
smaller
building
yeah,
but
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
pieces
in
motion
on
this.
A
G
And
I
think
they've
got
that
thought
out
at
this
point
in
time.
Remember
we're
in
a
schematic
stage
at
this
point
in
time,
for
you
know
for
for
this
sort
of
a
project.
So
there's
not.
He
said,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
explicit
detail,
explicit
specification
for
many
things
that
they're
contemplating
right
now.
What
they
do
have
is
a
solid
Direction
and
they're
continuing
in
that
direction
or
hoping
to
continue
in
that
direction.
I
agree
with
the
idea
of
of
the
PVC
issue,
you
know,
being
all
wood
the
species
of
wood.
G
You
know
that
could
be
any
one
of
a
number
of
things
that
depends
upon
how
you
handle
this
yeah,
but
I
think
it's
more
than
just
the
storefront.
It
also
goes
for
the
entry
doors
that
exist
on
all
the
sides
of
this,
and
even
even
if
you
use
it
for
the
bucks
and
the
infills
for
the
windows
themselves.
You
know,
if
they're
going
to
continue
with
the
wood
concept
for
all
this
new
construction
that
they
need
to
be
able
to
consider
it.
A
G
A
G
G
It
once
we're
talking
about
it.
The
the
specification
and
methodology
for
the
stucco
removal
should
also
be
put
into
that
same
thing
with
the
staff
reviewed.
D
D
To
to
do
that
by
hand,
and
do
it
without
scoring
the
brick
on
the
back
side
right,
that's
going
to
be
tough,
so
if,
if
they
can
do
it,
I
really
commend
the
guys.
You
know
that
pull
that
off
the
urethane
roof.
You
know,
of
course,
on
these
commercial
buildings,
these
Roof
Systems
that
are
out
there.
D
The
reason
you
see,
like
you
said,
come
up
the
backside
and
over
is
to
waterproof
the
entire
system,
including
that
wall,
especially
on
these
older
buildings
that
are
made
with
three
four
white
thick
brick
that
are
very
porous
you're
going
to
if
they
stop
it.
On
the
back
side,
there's
a
really
high
chance
that
there's
going
to
be
some
moisture
issues
down
the
road
behind
this
foam,
which
then
eventually
gets
into
the
wood
members
of
the
building.
E
D
E
E
No,
but
they
don't
want
to
do
that,
otherwise
they
don't
want
to
do
it
in
any
other
way.
They
want
to
wrap
it
all
the
way
over,
because
they
know
that
that's
the
limitation
of
the
product
is
that
they
have
to
cover
everything
and
not
have
a
have
any
of
the
parapet
cap,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
that
the
building
is
appropriate
from
the
exterior
from
the
street
correct
with
that
kind
of
a
system.
A
I
And
discussing,
while
you
guys
are
discussion
discussing
the
conditions
that
your
please
just
be
reminded.
If
you
do
make
a
motion
to
approve
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
an
additional
condition
would
keep
to
work
with
staff
regarding
the
status
of
the
encroachments.
A
I
F
That
it
could
be
pervious
that
that
area
could
be
some
Landscaping
I,
don't
know
where
the
where
the
elevations
are
working
on
that.
We
have
made
a
number
of
suggestions
here
which
are
beyond
the
scope
of
our
concerns,
and
this
is
yet
another,
but
I
believe
that
we
need
to.
We
are
at
specifying
the
parapet
and
coping
details,
the
materials
and
first
floor
entrances,
the
trim,
materials
in
first
floor
entrances
and
Windows
right.
The
approval
of
any
modifications
to
the
parking
lot
wall
as
appropriate
for
the
for
the
district
without.
F
A
E
E
Otherwise,
I'd
like
to
make
a
move
I
will
move
that
a
the
certificate
I'm
on
the
wrong
side
of
the
page.
E
For
the
building
in
902
North
Howard
Avenue
1902,
North,
Howard,
Avenue
I
buy
it
my
bad
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
trim
be
specified
to
be
wood,
trim
on
the
doors
and
windows
and
storefront
that
the
applicant
reconsider
with
staff
the
design
of
the
existing
site
wall
and
gate
along
the
southern
border
of
the
property
that
the
foam,
roofing
material,
detail
and
termination
at
the
parapet
be
carefully
detailed.
E
I
E
O
O
The
address
is
1902.
North
Howard
Avenue.
Once
again,
this
is
a
local
landmark
in
the
National
District
of
West
Tampa.
This
request
is
for
the
ad
valorem
tax
exemption
part
one
pre-construction.
So
this
is
an
elective
process
that
he's
coming
forward
with.
As
the
presentation
template
that
comes
forward,
there
are
some
features
that
need
to
be
addressed
as
part
of
the
request
this
evening,
he'll
go
through
the
periodic
significance
and
the
statement
of
of
Elegance
that
this
building
has
to
the
West
Tampa
District.
O
N
So
now
we'll
be
discussing
the
Interiors
of
the
building
in
CEO,
here's
the
existing
conditions
of
the
property.
You
see
it's
brick,
exterior
walls.
You
can
see
the
the
framing
that's
the
front
elevation
where
that
had
been
modified
and
changed
at
some
point,
so
that'll
all
be
taken
out
all
that
wood
framing
on
the
what
the
storefronts
are
and
that'll
be
done,
where
we
will
now
recess
or
inset
the
doors.
N
This
is
another
one
of
the
Bays
at
some
point.
Somebody
came
in
and
added
concrete
block
walls
into
the
interior
of
the
space,
but
those
were
not
original
to
the
building
and
they
also
didn't
place
them
in
the
correct
locations
under
the
floor
joists.
So
just
about
any
work
that
was
done
in
there
I
don't
trust,
so
we
want
to
redo
it
all
and
do
it
properly.
N
So
it's
Our
intention
is
to
remove
those
concrete
block
walls
and
introduce
some
steel
columns
and
a
steel
structure
in
there
to
support
it
properly
again,
you're
seeing
more
of
the
concrete
block
walls
and
the
concrete
floor,
and
it's
one
interesting
element
we
did
find
on
the
interior.
It's
kind
of
hard
to
see.
I'll
try
to
zoom
in
there
was
a
little
bit
of
the
original
pressed
tin
ceiling.
N
N
N
N
N
What
was
interesting
in
this
building
and
two
ends
of
the
building?
They
had
light
Wells
here
you're
looking
at
you're
looking
downward
at
the
floor
of
the
light.
Well,
you
can
kind
of
see
the
condition
of
the
building,
but
there's
light
Wells.
It
was
a
skylight
on
the
roof
and
it
introduced
light
into
some
of
the
Interior
rooms.
Some
of
the
rooms
that
didn't
have
Windows
this
light
well
provided
some
light
and
some
ventilation
to
those
rooms.
N
N
I
mean
the
red
is
just
showing
you
the
the
areas
that
we'll
be
removing
that
some
of
the
dashed
lined
area.
That's
the
concrete
block
walls
that
were
not
original
to
the
building,
so
we're
removing
that
and
taking
it
back
to
its
original
opening
sizes.
N
The
only
red
you
see
on
this
built
on
this
page
is
just
the
the
exterior
windows
that
will
be
removed.
N
N
These
offices,
we
have
one
labeled
a
break
room.
Well
that
was
original
kitchen.
So
again,
this
was
a
rooming
house
and
they
had
four
different
kind
of
common
kitchen
areas
up
there.
On
the
second
floor,.
N
Here's
a
ceiling
plan,
reflective
ceiling
plan
for
the
first
floor.
Here
you
can
see
the
the
grid
for
the
Press
10
ceiling,
we'll
have
kind
of
a
I,
think
we're
planning
to
have
a
13
inch
crown
molding
around
the
perimeter
of
the
room
and
then
there's
a
filler
piece.
First
and
then
you
go
to
the
field
where
it's
two
by
two
squares.
N
So
I
think
we
were
calling
out
about
a
six
inch
newel
post,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
six
and
a
half
inch
I
believe
it
is
and
then
trying
to
find
a
period
appropriate,
spindle
and
top
hand.
Rail
cap
coming
up
the
stairwell
again
re,
reusing
and
redoing
that
beaded
ceiling
type
wainscoting
coming
up
halfway
up
the
wall
and
then
it'll
be
drywall
above
and
we'll
introduce
a
a
steel
handrail.
N
There's
more
of
a
wainscoting
detail
that
will
be
in
the
hallways.
N
Here
is
the
wooden
trim
work
shown.
Actually,
the
top
portion
is
the
detail
for
the
tin
ceiling
on
the
ground
floor
again,
like
I
said
it's
about
a
13
inch,
Cove
molding
kind
of
a
crown
molding
on
the
perimeter,
there'll
be
a
flat
area,
then
a
I
think
they
call
that
a
bead,
and
then
it
goes
to
the
field
area.
N
Up
in
the
upstairs
on
the
second
floor,
we'll
have
a
we
won't
have
crown
molding,
we'll
have
picture
molding,
which
will
be
down
set
down
from
the
ceiling
height.
We
were
able
to
find
samples
of
all
the
baseboards
and
we'll
have
that
we'll
have
we'll
have
that
matched
we'll
have
a
knife
cut
and
we'll
if
we
need
to
order
more
baseboards
and
trim
we'll
have
that
re-milled
to
match
the
original
profiles.
N
The
last
drawing
we
have
is
of
the
the
windows
on
the
second
floor
and
the
doors
that
we're
proposing.
N
And
from
the
Finish
board,
you
can
see
the
doors
the
windows
we're
using
here's
actually
a
picture
of
the
existing
concrete
floor
and
you
can
see
how
it's
in
a
diamond
pattern
and
already
staying
stain
Ed.
So
we'll
cost
that
and
we
use
that
same
concrete
floor.
Here's
some
details
on
the
pressed
and
ceiling
skylights.
N
Oh
and
we're
proposing
on
the
first
floor,
to
have
exposed
metal
duct
work
because
of
the
tense
ceiling
and
the
way
the
ceiling
is
going
to
work.
We
think
it's
a
better
solution
to
have
to
expose
the
metal
duct,
but
it
won't
be
round
it's
going
to
be
more
of
a
compressed
type,
even
rectangular
rectangular
and
painted
that's
dissatisfy,
the
National
Park
Service
I.
Believe
on
the
second
floor.
We
do
have
an
attic
space,
so
all
that
ductwork
will
be
concealed
and
up
in
the
attic
space.
O
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Ron
Villa
staff
with
historic
preservation,
so
reviewing
Arc,
t23-01
stats,
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
with
the
plans
that
we
reviewed
and
May
26
2023
when
repurposing
the
building.
You
know
we
look
to
see
what
evidence
is
Left
Behind.
On
our
initial
visit
on
site.
There
wasn't
much
the
information
that
was
prevalent
and
the
historic
fabric
was
shared
with
you
tonight.
O
O
The
the
earlier
presentation
had
the
the
the
meat
of
the
exterior
that
you
all
reviewed
and
gave
some
Direction,
and
this
is
more
to
focus
on
the
interior,
so
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
E
E
A
couple
of
questions
on
you
can
zoom
in
a
couple
questions
I
had
on
this.
How
much
of
the
second
floor
structure
is
original
fabric?
Do
you
have
you
made
that
kind
of
determination?
How
much
of
that
second
floor
structure
is?
Is
the
old
heart
Pine
you
know
three
by
twelves
or
whatever
they
are.
N
The
framing
structure-
it
does
look
original,
but
it
was
in
very
poor
condition.
This
building
I
don't
think
ever
had
a
termite
10
on
it.
So
it's
quite
extensive
amount
of
work
has
to
be
done
too.
E
Okay,
what
what
roughly
is
is
the
percentage
of
what
the
original
structural
fabric
do
you
think
you're
going
to
be
removing
and
how
much
are
you
keeping
of
that
second
floor
joist
structure.
E
And
replace
versus
I
guess
sandwiched
or
you
know,
made
Flinch
plate
beams
out
of
or
do
they
have
to
be
replaced
I
mean
I,
guess
you
you
can
make
that
judgment.
Obviously.
N
E
Okay,
do
you
have
how
you
said
the
original,
the
CMU
walls
that
are
there
now
were
not
original
they're?
Are
they
holding
up
the
second
floor,
joists.
N
E
E
N
E
E
N
E
So
all
right,
yeah
I
mean
I,
guess
I'm.
Historically,
the
the
Public
quote-unquote
Public
walls
on
the
inside
faces
of
these
buildings
would
be
plastered
where
there
were
public
access
to
offices
and
things
like
that
and
then
other
places
in
the
building
that
were
warehouses
or
whatnot.
They
may
have
put
those
strips
in,
but
they
may
have
never
plastered
them
originally
I'm,
just
just
trying
to
get
a
feel
for
what
your
intention
are.
What
your
intention
is,
do
you
intend
I
guess
to
insulate
these
walls
to
put
insulation
on
them?
No,
okay,.
E
One
of
the
things
I
would
bring
up
is
that
if
you're
going
to
rip
out
an
awful
lot
of
this
second
floor
structure-
or
you
already
have
I,
don't
know
what
what
the?
What
where
you
are
in
in
the
construction
right
now,
but
I
mean
that
was
all
probably
originally
heart.
Pine
right,
the
you
know
old
growth.
E
Is
there
any?
Have
you
considered
and
again?
This
is
from
my
stand.
I've
done
this
in
historic
properties.
These
moldings
that
you
pass
through
are
beautiful
little
pieces
of
heart
Pine.
You
know
really
tight
grain,
and
would
you
consider
taking
all
the
the
stuff
that
you're
pulling
out
of
the
building
and
attempting
to
recycle
that
and
have
that
would
be
milled
into
new
moldings
or
something
else
like
that
to
try
to
keep
as
much
of
that
original
fabric
in
the
building.
E
E
For
the
wainscope,
you
know
to
replace
that
wainscope
you
can
use
some
of
this
wood
right
to
to
Mill
it
into
trim.
If
you're
going
to
have
all
the
the
tools
made
to
you
know
the
knives
made
to
to
cut
new
trim,
it
would
be
nice
to
see
right
as
much
of
the
original
would
not
be
just
tossed
out
and
burned
somewhere,
but
to
put
be
put
back
into
the
building.
E
Right
and
then
the
light
Wells
they're
two
light
Wells
on
the
either
side,
either
end
of
the
building.
E
N
N
E
E
N
F
So,
and
is
there
any
knowledge
and
or
sort
of
in
a
sort
of
in
a
typical
Arrangement
like
this?
Was
this
per?
This
was
not
four
Apartments
I'm
getting
to
the
I
want
to
know
what
how
this
was.
It
was
a
rooming
house
correct.
There
were
11
Chimneys
in
here,
so
there
were
11.
There
were
11
rooms
that
were
heated,
you
know,
so
not
all
of
them,
it
seems,
were
heated.
F
Three
or
four
nope,
because
I
want
to
I
want
to
get
to
the
sort
of
the
sort
of
building
that
this
was
when
it
was
built,
because
my
impression
is
that
it
was
for
people
of
pretty
modest
means
and
that
they
were
and
the
historic
preservation
consultant.
Could
you
speak
to
this?
Oh.
M
C
M
M
M
C
F
And
but
a
single
men
or
families-
that's
that's
somewhat
my
question,
but
obviously
it
was
very
modest.
The
bead
board
in
the
stairways
is
a
pretty
modest
finish
that
was
used
for
you
know
commercial
dwellings
and
stuff
like
that,
and
so
I
I've
focused
in
on
the
sort
of
elaborate
crown
molding
that
you
have
in
the
tin
ceiling.
N
M
Are
some
of
the
photographs
showed
showed
the
original
pressed
metal
ceiling
elements?
They
were
just
pieces
of
it.
Not
no.
No
large
amounts
just
scraps
of
it
here
and
there
that
Hamilton
was
able
to.
You
know
obviously
retain.
F
Yeah,
okay,
I've
never
heard
the
questions.
Thank
you.
G
G
D
A
D
To
be
very
difficult,
it's
going
to
be
interesting,
I.
E
N
D
N
So
yes,
we'll
have
new
steel
I-beams
running
through
the
space
on
the
perimeter
walls.
We
two
new
columns
that
will
be
wrapped
in
drywall
and
be
hidden
in
the
middle
of
the
space,
would
be
two
new
round
columns,
we'll
introduce
column
wraps
for
bases
and
capitals
to
go
on
there,
but
the
crown
molding
will
be
large
enough
to
cover
up
the
sea
lion,
so
you
won't
be
seeing
the
IV.
N
D
Which
leads
me
to
the
other
question
I
had
of
you
mentioned
that
these
old
walls
were
not
placed
on
a
footer,
but
these
new
walls
or
new
column
locations
look
to
be
roughly
the
same
location,
so
I
think
I
remember
seeing
a
proposal
of
a
pad
footing
that
you're
gonna
cut
out
and
place
back
in
and
I
just
want
to
verify
that
I
read
the
note
correctly
that
you're
going
to
match
the
diamond
cut
pattern.
Is
the
intent,
correct.
D
N
The
original
flooring
was
a
you
know,
three-quarter
inch
heart
pine
floor,
but
it
was
nailed
directly
to
the
floor
joists.
They
had
no
subfloor
on
top
of
that
they
had
several
layers
of
linoleum
and
then
someone
added
a
sheet
of
plywood
on
top
of
that,
but
once
the
termites
got
a
hold
of
it
all
it
was
like
it
was
mushy
the
floor.
N
D
D
N
D
N
D
E
D
G
I
just
have
one
last
comment,
something
that
I
think
you
I
would
like
to
bring
to
you
at
least
your
attention.
G
Please
I'm,
looking
at
the
entrances
that
we
see
along
the
street
front,
and
this
may
or
may
not
apply
to
the
other
entrances
as
they
appear
around
your
building-
that
this
is
just
a
general
comment.
G
N
Right
so
we
are
proposing
to
add
a
handicap
stall
here,
this
first
space,
the
problem
with
the
back
of
the
building
you
actually
have
to
step
down
to
get
into
the
building.
So,
instead
of
adding
a
ramp
or
something
inside
the
space,
our
thought
was
having
the
handicap
stall.
Here
they
could
come
out
and
enter.
There's
a
doorway
right
here.
G
N
C
D
Thank
you
very
much
so
that
brought
up
a
couple
of
questions
for
me,
one
is
the
building
going
to
be
sprinkler
at
all.
It's.
D
N
D
D
The
only
other
question
I
have
is
kind
of
going
back
to
piggybacking
some
of
or
one
of
his,
but
on
the
interior
of
these
buildings.
D
The
energy
code
that
we
have
to
fight
these
days
make
some
of
the
the
the
the
wonks.
If
you
will,
the
Finish
is
very
difficult
to
achieve.
Have
you
had
any
discussion
at
this
point?
To
that
extent,
do
you
know
because
I
mean
obviously
I'd
love
to
see
you
be
able
to
utilize
and
be
able
to
see
that
historic
fabric
of
that
brick
on
the
interior?
D
All
right
with
no
rebuttal,
we'll
close
the
public
section
of
this
start
discussing
among
the
commissioners.
G
I
I
personally
see
this
as
a
continuation
as
to
from
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
portion
of
this
presentation.
Greater
detail
because
we're
dealing
now
with
the
interior
I
think
it's
just
as
as
appropriately
ready
to
go
at
this
point
in
time.
At
this
point
of
detailing,
there's
lots
to
be
able
to
get
be
fleshed
out
and
moved
on
forward
in
a
strange
sort
of
an
odd
way.
It's
it's
almost
a
shame.
G
G
E
I'm
doing
I'm
doing
one
over
in
evil
right
now,
the
same
thing
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
valid
Market,
but
you
know
does
that
impact?
What
this
is.
E
G
Oh
absolutely
I,
agree,
yeah,
I,
I,
think
I
think
there's
still
some
some
potential
flexibility
in
that
coming
forward,
but
I
do
think
that
this
this
project
is
definitely
on
the
right
track
or
an
appropriate
track.
D
Yeah,
the
good
news
here
is
regardless
of
end
use.
Is
we've
got
an
investor
developer?
That's
going
to
take
an
old
property
he's
going
to
Great
Lengths
to
try
to
restore
it.
Unfortunately,
it
what's
happened
to
this
building
is
what's
happened
to
so
many
others?
Is
it's
not
been
maintained
through
the
years
and
fortunately,
it's
still
standing
because
it's
masonry?
If
not,
who
knows
maybe
it's
imploded
at
this
point?
D
D
D
So
the
good
news
for
the
the
developers
is
he's
got
a
kind
of
an
open
canvas.
I
did
hear
the
one
comment
about
the
plaster
on
the
exterior
walls.
I
mean
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
leaving
the
lab
Strokes
exposed
and
I.
D
Don't
know
that
I
have
a
opinion
one
way
or
the
other
on
which
direction
he
goes
there
I'm
more
interested
in
the
end
result
of
it,
looking
like
it
would
have
in
1905
when
it
was
built
and
as
a
contractor,
I
have
to
say
I
I,
some
of
the
stuff
I
hear
you
know
it's
some
very
lofty
goals
and
you
know
again
I
commend
you
for
that.
So.
D
E
Yeah
I
think
the
whole
point
of
the
AdWords
tax
credits
is
to
encourage
to
doing
it
right.
You
know,
and,
and
the
more
accurately
you
do
things
the
better.
Your
chances
are,
that
you'll
get
those
tax
credits
back,
which
you
know
everybody
is
being
you
know
it's
kind
of
crucial
to
the
finances
to
the
to
the
pro
forma
for
the
project,
so
yeah.
C
E
I
think
they're
going
in
the
right
direction,
they're
doing
the
right
things
and
they
should
be
able
to
get
the
tax
credits
if,
if
they,
if
they
don't
screw
up,
do
you
have.
F
D
Good
before
we
before
we
adjourn,
we
need
to
make
a
motion
to
receive
into
the
file
all
the
documents
and
Exhibits
that
we're
here
tonight.
Do
we
have
to.