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A
Er,
the
Wednesday
June
7th
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
Tampa's
Architectural
Review
commission
welcome
everyone,
I'm
Brent,
Taylor
I'm,
a
general
contractor
and
I'm
Vice
chair
of
this
Commission.
If
you
are
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
When
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
A
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details,
wall
sections
and
then
our
staff
will
present.
A
staff
report
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
Commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation,
please
State
and
spell
your
name.
Clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes,
so
so
take
some
time
now.
A
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
public
comment,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
The
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
A
The
Commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
and
will
make
their
decision
based
on
the
city
ordinance
chapter
27
of
the
City
Zoning
code,
the
design
guidelines,
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards,
historic
preservation,
development
review
or
hpdrc
comments,
and
the
testimony
given
at
the
public
hearing
the
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
Owner
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
A
B
A
With
us
tonight
also
Ron
Villa
Elaine
Lund,
Alexis
Guzman,
and
our
attorney
Dana
Crosby
Collier.
E
Good
evening
Commissioners
ronville
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation
moving
down
the
agenda,
we
will
address
conflicts
of
interest
and
expert
in
communication
with
our
legal
advisor.
C
F
D
E
G
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Elaine
Lund
historic
preservation
staff,
the
first
two
items
that
we
have
on
our
agenda
this
evening,
Arc
22-229
at
210,
East,
Columbus,
Drive
and
Arc
23-224
at
2702,
North
Morgan
Street,
are
related
by
the
site
plan.
This
is
a
PD
site
plan
which
was
reviewed
and
recommended
for
approval
by
this
board
and
was
approved
by
City
Council
in
March
of
this
year,
as
such
staff
is
recommending
that
we
hear
these
two
cases
together
and
then
do
discussion
and
vote
on
them
separately.
G
With
that,
I
will
move
into
the
photo
presentation.
G
210
East
Columbus
Drive
is
located
in
the
green
and
it
is
contiguous
with
a
part
of
what
was
formerly
another
lot
at
its
rear.
So
this
portion
of
the
application
that
you
will
be
reviewing
involves
a
new
construction
of
us.
I
have
a
two-family
structure
on
the
main
parcel
and
then
the
construction
of
an
accessory
structure
on
the
parcel
that
is
accessed
from
the
alley.
G
G
This
is
the
present-day
aerial
of
the
of
the
proposed
site
located
again
near
the
Columbus
Drive
and
Morgan
Street
intersection.
You
can
see
the
outline
of
the
local
historic
district
in
blue.
You
can
notice
that
the
corridor
along
Florida
Avenue
is
commercial,
but
the
area
to
the
east
of
the
alley
that
runs
behind
the
commercial
properties
on
Florida
Avenue
is
entirely
residential,
with
the
exception
of
the
School
located
on
Columbus
Drive.
G
This
is
the
property
directly
to
the
West,
on
which
there
should
say
a
historic
but
modified
structure.
G
We
also
have
some
views
from
the
alley
looking
into
the
the
rear
lot
that,
where
the
accessory
structures
proposed.
G
G
H
Good
evening,
Commissioners
Ryan
manasse
with
Johnson
Pope,
401,
East,
Jackson,
Street,
Suite
3100
here
tonight,
representing
the
property
owner
IDF
and
Daniel
he's
in
the
audience
as
well
and
we'll
be
presenting
here
shortly
with
some
of
the
other
details
appreciate
staff
staff
report.
They
went
into
detail
about
the
rezoning,
and
the
purpose
of
my
presentation
here
will
be
just
to
briefly
overview
the
approved
rezoning.
Just
in
case
you
have
any
questions
for
that
and
then
we'll
go
to
Daniel
for
any
of
the
material
details
for
this
Arc
hearing.
H
H
Okay,
so
the
green
outline
again
shows
that
the
rezoning
boundary
and
to
the
west
of
the
property
there's
a
platted
alley
and
then
to
the
South
is
Columbus
Drive.
And
then
you
have
North
Morgan
to
the
east
and
you
can
see.
Obviously
it's
a
uniquely
shaped
lot
and
there
was
a
lot
of
considerations
when
we
were
designing
this
and
going
through
the
rezoning
process
and
and
before
this
board,
previously
building
a
b
and
c,
which
would
be
identified
again
as
a
b
c.
H
This
is
for
the
semi
or
I'm
sorry,
residential
single
family,
detached
to
that
customary
single-family,
home
B
is
going
to
be
for
your
semi-detach
and
that's
going
to
be
the
use
units
on
both
sides
and
then
C
is
an
enclosed
parking
garage
for
three
cars
underneath
on
the
ground
level
and
then
one
dwelling
unit
which
is
considered
detached
on
the
top,
and
that
was
actually
not
required.
But
we
opted
to
provide
affordable
housing
through
the
rezoning
process
with
that,
so
it
goes
along
with
the
plan.
H
Now
staff
has
mentioned
this
has
gone
through
the
rezoning
process
and
obviously
the
configuration
the
site
layout
and
such
were
already
reviewed
and
approved
by
city
council.
This
is
straight
from
the
approved
rezonian
site
plan
showing
the
dimensional
criteria,
one
the
maximum
height
of
31
feet.
Then
the
proposed
setbacks
and,
as
you
could
see
from
this
rezoning
plan,
we
identified
it
again
as
building
a
b
and
c
and
then
the
direct
the
cardinal
directions
for
those
setbacks
that
correspond
to
that.
The
structures.
H
So
with
that
historic,
as
you
heard,
it's
a
historic
preservation
staff
has
found
it
consistent
with
conditions.
We
agree
to
meet
those
conditions
in
the
staff
report,
as
outlined
several
items
from
the
application
application
of
Standards,
which
are
relative
to
the
uses
density,
height
setback,
the
site
coverage,
the
front
door
orientation
Etc
are
all
done
through
the
rezoning
and
approved,
and
we
cannot
modify
that
rezoning
site
plan.
However,
the
remaining
application
standards,
such
as
materials,
Windows,
facade
and
roof
form
details
are
being
presented
tonight,
but
I
will
be
available
for
any
questions.
I
All
right
good
evening,
Daniel
gords
I,
am
the
owner
and
the
developer
for
this
property,
my
company's
IDF
group,
so
I
kind
of
wanted
to
go
over
as
they
had
mentioned,
we're
going
to
go
over
both
of
the
plans
just
because
they
are
even
though
they're
individual
projects,
as
you
saw
on
the
site
plan,
it's
kind
of
kind
of
a
cohesive
project
here,
so
we've
got
210
East,
Columbus,
Drive
and
2702
North
Morgan
Street
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
show
you
guys
some
renderings
real
fast.
I
They
are
not
the
details,
aren't
exact
on
it,
but
it
just
kind
of
gives
us
a
good
visual
showing
you
know
all
the
different
buildings
and
kind.
J
I
I
You
can
see
210
East
Columbus
behind
it.
That
would
be
the
single-family
semi-detached
kind
of
another
Corner
angle.
Here
we
incorporated
a
a
wraparound
porch
on
this
one
and
a
shed
roof
and
we'll
go
into
some
of
those
details
here
shortly.
I
I'm
not
really
going
to
go
into
the
site
plan
overview
you
guys
saw,
but
this
was
the
original
site
plan.
This
is
what
was
approved
by
the
city.
I
did
want
to
kind
of
just
bring
into
Focus
real
fast.
One
of
the
notes
that
staff
had
mentioned
was
just
that
they
wanted
to
see
the
walkway
in
front
of
210.
East
Columbus
be
concrete.
We
are
okay.
Doing
that,
there's
no
problem.
I
I
I
And
then
I'll
kind
of
go
into
the
details
here,
if
you
for,
starting
with
the
plans
for
210
East
Columbus.
These
are
the
latest
plans
with
all
the
revisions
kind
of
working
with
staff,
not
just
most
recently,
but
really.
I
This
project
has
kind
of
took
shape
or
started
to
take
shape
about
a
year
year
and
a
half
ago,
so
I'll
zoom
in
just
to
kind
of
show
you
guys
some
of
the
details
here
we
have
the
you
know
the
brick
front,
facade
we've
got
the
Craftsman's
doors
into
each
unit
left
and
right
double
windows
for
the
front
part
of
each
unit.
There
we've
went
with
a
slimmer,
French
style
door
in
the
galley
or
the
gallery.
On
the
second
floor,
there
are
two
windows
there.
I
I
And
they're
bringing
to
our
second
floor
plan,
it's
a
three
bedroom
two
and
a
half
bath.
So
we've
got
that
the
main
living.
On
the
second
floor
there
and
here's
a
floor
plan
for
the
accessory
structure
for
the
Upper
Floor.
It
is
a
two
bedroom
one
bath.
I
Front
elevation:
we've
working
with
staff,
we've
added
several
details
that
we'll
kind
of
go
into
a
plywood
bead
board
ceiling
at
the
porch.
You
know
the
the
Brick
front
and
columns
Craftsman
doors,
a
Slimmer,
French
style
door
to
access
the
balcony
on
the
second
floor,
exposed
trusses
also
doing
a
plywood
bead
board
in
between
each
truss
one
over
one
windows.
I
I
I
I
I
did
want
to
point
out.
It
was
something
that
had
been.
You
know
some
of
the
items
that
had
been
discussed
with
staff,
so
we
are
doing
a
fiber
cement
sill.
Previously
it
was
showing
concrete
on
the
first
floor,
since
this
is
a
block
first
floor
frame,
second
floor
construction.
I
I
I
Here
are
just
some
historical
and
present
day
references,
4210,
East
Columbus
that
I
wanted
to
go
through.
These
are
the
three
addresses
that
I
felt
you
know
most
were
the
most
similar
to
this
project,
so
we've
got
2816
North,
Morgan
Street,
just
about
a
half
a
block
down
from
this
project
on
Morgan,
you
can
see
a
lot
of
the
similar
details.
I
apologize
I
meant
to
write
down
the
date.
I
believe
this
home
was
at
1916,
but
it
is
a
historical.
I
So
you
can
see
a
lot
of
the
similarities
in
what
we're
we're
creating.
This
is
a
newer
construction
site.
It
falls
more
into
the
Barrio
Latino,
but
it
is
just
down
the
street
also
on
East
Columbus,
but
I,
just
kind
of
wanted
to
see
how
some
of
the
newer
projects
were
being
Incorporated
with
some
of
the
more
historic
architecture.
I
And
then
I'm
just
going
to
jump
into
2702
North
Morgan
Street.
This
is
the
single
family
home
that
sits
on
the
corner
of
Morgan
and
East
Columbus.
This
is
a
front
this
has
taken.
This
has
changed
throughout
from
my
initial
presentation.
If
you
will
ultimately,
one
of
some
of
the
major
changes
was
because
it
is
a
corner.
We
did
bring
a
wraparound
porch.
I
We
also
Incorporated
a
shed
roof,
which
was
something
that
staff
thought
would
would
be
more
historically
appropriate
for
for
this
home
and
for
being
a
and
then
the
wraparound
for
being
a
corner
unit.
I
Many
of
the
same
details
I
mean
I'll,
go
into
maybe
some
where
some
are
different,
but
ultimately
the
barge.
You
know
the
eight
inch
bar
drafter
the
Gable
ends.
We
got
the
plywood
bead
board
in
between
the
rafter
tails,
with
the
exposed
raster
tails,
the
Craftsman's
door.
This
one's
slightly
different
we've
got
the
brick
common
brick
columns,
but
we
do
a
stucco
finish
in
between.
I
I
Here's
our
second
floor
structure
or
floor
plan.
There.
I
I
Wanted
to
go
through
these
are
some
addresses
here
that
I
found
for
2702
North
Morgan
Street
staff
really
helped
me.
You
know
kind
of
Identify
some
projects
that
were
similar
in
that,
where
we
pulled
from
some
of
the
the
design
details,
so
503
East
Sparkman.
This
one
really
helps
highlight
just
kind
of
what
the
wraparound
porch
can
look
like
with
the
shed
roof.
I
And
also
the
details
with
the
the
brick
Piers
with
the
stucco
finish
in
between.
I
This
is
a
property
that
we
really
looked
at
to
get
some
of
the
inspiration
for
the
pop
out.
If
you
will
of
the
den
as
well
as
the
shed
roof
here,
which
is
we
what
we
incorporated
more
of
a
cleaner
front
view
there.
I
I
I'll
kind
of
Breeze
through
this
real
quickly,
but
these
are
just
some
of
the
notable
revisions
that
we
made
on
both
of
the
projects,
so
the
decorative
bracket,
bringing
it
to
full
overhang
width,
we've
also
increased
the
band
boards
I'll
go
into
the
details
between
210
and
2702,
there's
some
slight
differences,
but
ultimately
we
brought
the
this.
You
know
we
increase
the
size
of
the
siding.
I
I
I
We
corrected
the
window
trim,
so
we
would
be
using
a
fiber
cement
sill
for
both
first
and
second
story
on
both
projects,
but
it
was
highlighted
for
2702
North
Morgan
and
we
added
a
brick
Pier
Foundation
here,
which
originally
was
not
there
original
plan
and
then
I'll
go
through
the
material
palette.
I
I
do
highlight
some
of
the
differences
and
I've
kind
of
brought
it
out
as
we
go
through
it
just
to
kind
of
summarize
it
we've
got.
A
larger
eight
inch
reveal
smooth
finish,
siding
for
two
tennies
Columbus.
Obviously,
that's
the
multi-family
It's
a
larger
structure,
so
we
felt
that
would
look
more
appropriate
six
inch
trim
at
the
corners
eight
inch,
Corner
sport.
I
We
have
a
10
inch
raised
banding
and
then
the
eight
inch
bar
drafter
at
the
Gable
ends
for
2702
a
smaller
structure.
So
we've
reduced
some
of
the
sizing
there.
So
six
inch
siding
we've
got
four
inch
trim
at
the
corners.
We
still
do
use
an
eight
inch,
Cornish
board
top
and
bottom,
and
then
we
have
the
eight
inch
raft,
a
bar
drafter
at
the
ends
as
far
as
the
foundation,
the
stem
wall.
So
we
have
the
common
brick
facing.
I
We
thought
it
would
look
nice
a
little
bit
more
historic
if
we
did
a
slightly
larger
grout
line
on
both
of
the
projects,
but
ultimately
210
East
Columbus.
The
entire
stem
wall
would
be
the
common
brick
facing,
whereas
2702
we've
got
the
common
brick
facing
with
the
stucco
in
between
the
column.
I'm.
Sorry,
the
stucco,
the
common
brick
for
the
piers
and
the
stucco
in
between
we'll
be
using
a
jeldwin
just
a
simple
one.
Over
one.
I
I
Some
of
the
porch
materials
obviously
highlighted
in
the
section,
but
I
wanted
to
bring
it
out
here
so
we'll
be
using
a
plywood
bead
board
for
the
ceiling
for
the
second
floor
balcony
at
210,
East
Columbus
we'd
be
using
like
a
trex
like
the
wood-like
flooring
trucks
you
guys
are
familiar
with
for
the
lighting
we'll
get
we'll
show
you
that
it's
just
kind
of
an
aged
bronze
wall,
style,
Lantern
and
then
again,
I
just
kind
of
highlight
The
Columns
here,
just
based
on
the
sizing
a
little
bit
so
for
210
East
Columbus.
I
I
I
I
This
is
a
very
standard
material
there
using
the
James
Hardy
siding.
So
we,
you
know,
use
a
smooth
finish
siding
so,
as
I
mentioned,
six
inch
on
2702
the
single
family
structure,
an
eight
inch
on
210
East
Columbus,
which
is
the
multi-family,
and
these
are
just
kind
of
the
details
of
the
trim,
smooth
trim.
I
Craftsman
style
door
provided
by
gels,
win
see
the
two
here
for
210
East,
Columbus
and
obviously
our
single
door
here
for
2702
North
Morgan
Street.
So
these
are
3080
Doran,
both
projects
exclusive
to
210,
East
Columbus
for
the
accessory
structure.
So
we
just
do
a
half
light.
The
Half
Light
would
provide
access
to
the
three
garages
from
the
rear,
as
well
as
to
the
apartment
on
the
Second
Story.
I
I
I
G
Elaine
Lund
to
start
preservation,
staff
staff
found
this
project
for
both
cases
to
be
consistent
with
the
design
guidelines
for
the
Tampa
Heights
historic
district.
G
The
I
also
would
like
to
remind
you
that
these
are
two
separate
cases,
one
for
210
East,
Columbus
Drive
and
one
for
2702
North
Morgan
Street.
So
we
will
need
two
separate
motions
for
these
cases.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
now,
we'll
start
asking
questions,
keeping
I'm
sorry
public
comment:
do
we
have
anyone
seeing
none?
Now
we
can
move
to
questions,
we'll
reiterate
what
she
said.
We
are
looking
at
this,
even
though
he
presented
as
one
case
it's
two
separate
cases,
so
we'll
ask
questions
of
the
first
case
and
then
we'll
make
a
motion
on
that
and
then
we'll
move
into
the
second
case.
I
will
start
here
with
commissioner
Sutton
on
my
left.
B
Thank
you
very
much.
I
do
recognize
that
the
site
plan
has
been
cast
in
stone
through
the
PD
process,
but
I
do
have
one
question
related
to
that.
B
H
I
C
Commissioner,
Marsh
I'm,
sorry,
you
don't
get
to
sit
down.
C
I,
just
a
very
quick
question
of:
why
does
the?
Why
does
the
right-of-way,
why
is
the
right-of-way
angled
in
front
of
the
street
or
in
front
of
the
front
of
210
along.
H
Columbus,
it
was
a
taking,
it
was
a
previous
taking.
So
that's
why
Columbus
has
that
weird
Jagged
cut
like
that,
so,
okay,
it
further
made
this
site
unique
and
actually
quite
difficult
to
develop
so
yeah.
That
was
the
justification
for
a
lot
of
our
you
know,
site
development
and
how
we
can
out
lay
out
the
site
and
make
it
conform
to
the
Tampa
Heights
standards
as
much
as
possible.
So.
H
C
So
now
can
you
bring
up
the
front
elevation
of
210
yep.
I
C
I
I
I
think
it's
a
benefit
for
us,
because
it
really
you
know,
we've
got
our
sets
setback,
but
it
provides
us
more
space
to
both.
You
know,
to
our
property
line
or
to
the
sidewalk
I
should
say.
C
K
I
Is
and
it's
so
it's
and
I
can
go
back
to
that
in
a
second,
but
it
is
a
single
hung.
Just
a
clear
glass
one
over
one
and.
C
I
I
I'm,
not
the
the
architect
I
apologize,
but
I
I'm
pretty
well
familiar
with
some
of
these
details,
but
they
would
open
in
towards
the
dividing
wall
on
both
properties.
So,
okay.
C
C
Okay
and
then
the
balcony
doors,
you
said,
they're
full
light,
but
you've
shown
them
as
divided
light.
I
Yes,
I
apologize
about
that
some
of
the
details
here
we
we
were
asked
just
to
kind
of
clear
up
and
the
sum
of
the
shadowing
that
the
Architects
had
provided
that
just
made
it
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
so
I
think
some
of
the
stuff
might
have
got
a
little
lost
in
translation
there,
but
ultimately
no.
This
would
be
a
full,
a
full
light
and
we
could
make
that
change
on
the
final
plan,
if
need
be,
to
specify
that.
C
C
And
then
can
I
look
at
your
rear
elevation.
C
Okay,
you
do
have
these
big
windows
in
your
walk-in
closet.
On
the
second
floor,.
I
The
original
plant
didn't
have
Windows
staff
wanted
to
see
some
windows
there,
so
we'll
have
a
very
bright
and
Airy
closet
master
closet
for
both
of
the
units.
But
we
could
work
around
that
so
as
far
as
from
the
interior
perspective,
but.
K
I
C
I
No,
obviously,
we
we've
got
a
very
large
Porsche
at
the
front.
Both
you
know
on
the
first
and
second
floor.
This
was
also
just
to
you
know,
have
access
to
to
the
backyard
as
well
as
access
to
the
parking
just
to
make
it
a
little
bit
easier.
Maybe.
K
I
A
rainy
day
or
something
like
that,
you
know:
there's
there
is
room
there
and
I
can
kind
of
show
you
the
site,
the
floor
plan,
I'm.
Sorry.
K
I
What
I'm
talking
about
there
yeah
I,
mean
I
think
so
one
of
the
the
changes
that
we
made,
we
did
actually
extend
the
dining
out
so
that
the
first
and
second
floor
wall
are
now
flush
and
parallel
with
each
other.
I
C
Right
and
then
the
garage
doors.
C
D
Thank
you
for
your
presentation.
It
was
very
thorough.
Could
you
bring
up
the
elevations
again,
please
of
the
you
know,
start
at.
D
There
are
light
fixtures
on
all
the
other
elevations
there's
no
light
fixture
shown
on
here.
Are
there
going
to
be.
D
I
The
code
would
require
to
have
two
there
anyways,
okay,
we
could
offset
it
for
the
purpose
of
of
the
you
know
the
elevation
to
show
it,
but
it
would
be
hiding
behind
the
column
in
this.
D
No,
not
no,
don't
don't
zoom
in
so
much.
Please
sorry
about
that.
Just
you
brought
up
precedence
from
other
buildings
in
the
area.
The
historic
buildings
in
the
area
and
they're
they're
very
similar
in
design,
and
one
thing
they
did
always
have,
though,
is
all
of
them-
is
there's
a
little
bit
of
space
between
the
windows
and
the
barge
boards,
and
these
windows
seem
to
be
shoved
out.
K
D
I
D
D
This
is
almost
the
same
comment.
The
two
windows
in
the
upper
left
in
the
upper
right
aren't
centered
over
the
door
below
they
just
seem
to
be
shoved
to
the
corner,
for
some
reason
that
it's
just
all
the
Precedence
that
you
showed
all
of
the
windows
aligned.
All
the
windows
are
stacked.
They're
centered,
if
there's
a
single
window
above
a
double
window,
they're
centered-
and
these
are
just
all
just
not
quite
aligned
and
then
the
four
in
the
center.
D
D
I,
looked
at
the
plan,
it
didn't
seem
like
there
was
anything
Magic
to
the
exact
placement
of
them
and
I
think
there's
room
in
the
plans
to
to
align
them
all.
It
was
almost
like
somebody
put
them
dead
center
of
the
room,
yeah.
D
But
the
ones
we're
talking
about
the
ones
in
the
walk-in
closet,
they're
centered
in
the
walk-in
closet
and
then
on
the
ground
floor.
If
you
move
to
the
ground
floor
plan
over
to
the
left,
those
are
all
being
dictated
by
somehow
being
symmetrical
in
the
dining
area,
but
they
don't
if
they
don't
align
with
the
windows
upstairs.
I
I
We
could
take
from
bedroom
two
see
if
we
can
bring
that
window
a
little
bit
more
to
the
center
I
just
believe
he
was
trying
to
get
it
kind
of
more
in
a
corner.
Well,
the.
D
D
J
D
D
That's
all
the
comment:
I
had
was
the
lights
in
the
in
the
window:
alignment.
Okay,
great!
Thank
you.
A
I
Don't
quote
me
on
this
I
believe,
with
working
with
staff,
we
had
were
asked
to
kind
of
slim
them
down
a
little
bit
and
I
think
they
were
larger
at
one
point
we
or
you
know
we're
100
open.
We
could.
We
could
definitely
make
them
a
little
bit.
You
know
larger,
but
they
are
based
on
a
4x4,
a
wrapped
4x4.
At
this
point.
Okay,.
A
A
I
It's
it's
the
window
over
the
sink
in
this
case
Okay,
and
then
we've
got
one
of
the
windows
for
egress
in
the
in
the
bedroom,
so
we're
limited
on
the
obviously
the
height
of
that
window.
In
this
case
there.
A
A
I
understand
the
function
behind
the
trucks,
but
again
I
have
to
ask
just
for
record
purposes
as
they're
being
thought
about
using
a
wood
product
versus
the
synthetic
product.
I.
I
Believe
there's
the
the
tracks
is
just
for,
for
you
know,
care
and
Longevity.
Ultimately,
we
could
easily
use
a
wood
product.
I've
done
a
couple
of
projects
in
the
historic
district
prior
and
we
did
use
a
wood.
We
did
not
use
the
tracks.
Actually,
we
want
to
use
both
so
both
have
been
approved.
Both
have
been
used.
I
We
wouldn't
we
could
go
either
way.
So,
okay,.
A
I
think
that's
all
I
have
as
far
as
questioning
right
now
any
other
questions.
Yeah.
D
Well,
well,
we
have
this
elevation
up
and
again
it's
I,
don't
know
if
it
bothers
anybody
else.
The
different
sizing
of
the
window
I
understand
because
of
the
plan.
But
again
those
windows
are
not
aligned
on
the
centered
on
the
garage
doors
below
they're
off
by
like
four
inches
from
being
centered
above
them,
and
that
kind
of
thing
is
again.
I
I,
don't
see
I
mean
for
to
align
them.
I
I
yeah.
Definitely
not
an
issue
at
all.
As
far
as
the
sizing.
D
Plan
generated
and
I
understand
that,
but
I
think
you
can
align
them
and
again.
That
is
part
of
what
makes
so
much
of
the
architecture
in
these
districts
attractive
is
because
things
align
and
they
seem
you
know
they.
D
B
I
I
won't
think
five
minutes,
I
think
ultimately
listening
to
some
of
the
feedback
here,
aligning
you
know
just
correcting
the
plan
so
that
you
know
we
are
everyone's
on
the
same
page
that
these
are
single
hung
Wing.
Those
not
double
hung
that
we're
using
a
one
light
and
not
any
different
version,
no
problem
looking
into
the
craftsman
style
door
garage
doors.
So
it's
a
little
bit
more
consistent
throughout
the
project
and
the
main
feedback
I
see
here
is
aligning
the
windows.
I
We
can
bring
the
corner
windows
in
no
problem,
especially
that
one
in
that
in
that
closet
and
just
bring
a
little
bit
more
Symmetry
and
just
kind
of
align
everything
there.
The
other
point
I
just
I
did
want
to
mention
is
which
is
kind
of
why
we
were
presenting
the
project
together,
just
as
a
whole,
I
I
do
plan
to
develop
the
entire
site
together
at
the
same
time,
so
that
was
kind
of
one
of
the
main
reasons
of
presenting
them
together
as
well.
For
you
guys.
H
Prime
minister,
for
the
record
just
to
get
on
what
Daniel
just
said
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
for
the
the
board
we'd
be.
It
sounds
like
we'd,
be
happy
to
make
these
accommodations
to
the
design
elements,
and
we
just
request
that
it
be
conditioned
for
approval
and
we'd,
be
happy
to
abide
by
that.
K
A
All
right,
if
that's
it,
we'll
close
public
hearing
and
now
we'll
discuss.
D
I
think
I
think
it's
pretty
thorough
of
a
presentation.
I
think
they
cover
the
bases,
materials
and
hardware
and
whatnot
on
this
project.
I
just
is
it
just
me
that
all
those
just
slight
misalignments.
B
We
count
on
that.
We
count
on
that
I'm
personally,
very
delighted
with
the
the
entire
aesthetic
package
that's
being
presented
here.
You
look
at
that
and
and
all
the
other
things
that
happen
up
and
down
Columbus
Drive
and
it's
it
that's
yeah
to
me
it
hits
so
I
I
have
no.
A
A
Even
with
the
missile
on
Windows
need
a
little
quirkiness
every
now
and
then
so
you
know
the
only
thing
that
really
kind
of
jumped
out
at
me
was
the
questions.
I
asked
the
columns
did
look
a
little
spindly.
If
you
will
for
me
so
I'll
lean
on
you
guys
from
a
design
perspective.
To
give
me
some
of
your
thought
processes.
I
do
come
from
an
area
of
the
country
where
you
know
things
are
sometimes
bigger.
Stouter
yeah.
D
A
little
more
stouter,
so
you
know
and
there's
precedent
for
doing
things
that
you
know
much
stouter.
You
know
much
wider,
but
I
looked
at
the
the
precedent
buildings
that
he
was
that
he
presented
in
1904
and
I.
Think
the
1912
I
forget
the
exact
date
of
the
two
that
he
showed.
They
have
the
same,
almost
the
same
proportions
as
this.
B
B
The
lace
of
the
of
the
the
handrails
lightens
everything
up
very
much
so
so
you
would
not
expect
something
that
big
to
be
holding
up
something
that
light.
C
I
think,
when
we're
doing
when
we're
dealing
with
a
what
is
really
a
vernacular
building
that
they
are,
they
tend
to
make
the
structure
what
is
necessary
and
not
what
there
there
is
no
pretension
to
that.
Does
the
Bungalow
thing
where
you
have
the
like:
the
crazy
fat
column?
You
know
the
the
short
fat
column,
so
they
could,
you
know,
spend
a
little
more
money.
A
D
D
A
Well,
it
was
here
it
was
the
one
that
got
you
know.
Everybody
recognizes
yeah,
it's
carried
at
the
big
box
stores
and
that's
why?
But
but
but
there
is
historic.
D
Precedence
for
using
PVC
composite
decking,
even.
B
J
C
Nonetheless,
I
think
it's
completely
appropriate.
It
is
this
is,
after
all,
you
know
it's.
It's
Hardy
Board,
it's
right.
It
is
not
at
all
a
pretentious
structure
and
and.
A
C
A
B
A
D
D
So
I'll
make
a
motion
to
move
that
the
very
no
to
I'm
on
the
wrong
side
to
move
to
granted
certificate
of
programs
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
in
this
public
hearing
for
Arc
22-229
for
the
property
at
210.
East
Columbus,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
staff
comment
to
incorporate.
Concrete
sidewalks
versus
brick
be
considered
that
the
AC
units
are
shown
and
approved
with
screening
by
staff.
D
That
light
fixtures
are
shown
and
approved
by
staff
on
the
property
that
the
alignment
of
windows
be
reconsidered
and
approved
by
staff
that
the
window
and
door
types
are
corrected
on
the
plans
to
what
was
presented
and
that
the
garage
doors
be
considered
for
an
alternate
design
and
improved
by
staff.
D
J
D
A
B
If
I
may
I'd
like
to
start
with
that
one,
this
is
just
visual
on
my
part
asking
for
clarification,
because
I
notice,
here
on
your
elevations
for
both
the
east
and
west
side
of
this,
this
building
does
not
have
a
gable
vent.
B
I
E
I
B
D
With
this
elevation
being
up,
what
is
the
top
of
the
small
brick
pilasters
made
of
on
the
other
project?
There's
a
small
Precast
cap.
These
don't
seem
to
have
a
cap
on
them
and
how
do
you
intend
for
those
to
be
topped.
I
Well,
if
and
I
and
I
apologize,
I
believe
these
would
also
have
a
cap
and
I
apologize.
It
wasn't
shown
originally
I
thought
that
they
were
at
at
level
with
the
porch,
but
they
would.
We
would
incorporate
a
cap
on
these
okay.
D
And
again,
if
you
can
see
those
two
windows
on
the
right,
they're
not
aligned
by
like
a
matter
of
three
or
four
inches,
what
you
get
is
very
annoying.
This
is
actually
this
is
the
second
front
of
the
house.
You
know,
there's
two
fronts
to
this
house
and
I.
Think
some
more
attention
needs
to
be
paid
to
the
fact
that
this
is
facing
a
major
Street,
and
this
is
actually
a
secondary
front
of
the
house.
D
D
If
something
could
be
done
with
that
with
your
designer
I
really
don't
have
any
other
questions.
Those
were
those
were
my
two
main
concerns,
and
it
just
needs
more
attention
to
to
get
those
things
straightened
up.
C
C
Know
that's
anything
yeah,
but
they
were,
but
there
there
is
a
reflectivity
issue.
There
I
mean
they
get,
they
get
really
hot,
and
so
they
tend
not
to
last
as
long
it's
just
a
that
is
a
comment.
Thank
you.
A.
A
I
only
have
I
think
two
questions.
One
goes
back
to
again
looking
at
these
windows
I'm
just
going
to
for
clarification
reasons
you
are
going
to
be
using
single
hung,
yes,
not
the
double,
and
we
will
fix
that.
I
had
to
apologize
and
then
back
to
these
columns,
so
is
it
is
the
porch
design
meant
to
is
the
finished
floor
meant
to
go
over
the
brick
column,
or
is
that
brick
column
coming
up
flush?
I?
Think
that
might
answer
the
question
of
the
cap.
I
So
originally
that's
what
I
thought
was
that
it
was.
You
know
the
the
the
column
is
flush
with
the
porch
floor.
I
do
apologize,
I'd
hate
to
answer
incorrectly,
but
I
I
would
get
with
the
architect
on
that.
I
believe
my
doubt
is
kind
of
this.
This
part
right
here
it
is
showing
it
flush
and
I
think
that
was
the
design.
So,
ultimately
we
you
know
the
concrete
would
continue
we
just
have
the
facing.
I
A
C
I
Yeah
absolutely
my
intention
was
to
have
it
all
flush
and
it
would
just
be
the
facing.
If
that's
okay,
then
we
would
just
make
sure
that
the
plan
addressed
that
and
it
was
consistent
throughout
okay
in
the
front
corner.
I
Only
thing-
and
it
would
be
more
on
the
on
the
site
plan
with
the
other
project
you
had,
you
know
asked
about
the
the
placement
of
the
AC,
naturally
or
traditionally
we
would
like
to
put
that
in
the
rear
of
the
home,
so
for
the
other
project.
That
would
not
be
visible
with
this
project,
however,
because
it
is
a
corner
unit,
we
would
provide
a.
I
Enclosure
so
that
it
would
not
be
seen
from
it
would
sit
at
the
rear
of
the
property,
but
so
that
it
would
not
be
seen
from
the
Columbus
side.
So
if
you're
looking
North
on
the
corner
of
the
property
other
than
that
I
mean
I,
think
this
is
I
very
much
enjoyed
this.
You
know
this
particular
property
as
a
whole.
I
think
it's
it's
going
to
be
super
unique.
I
You
know
that
was
something
else
that
we
obviously
worked
on
with
the
PD,
but
it
was
originally
oriented
towards
Morgan
Street.
So
we
wanted
to
incorporate
that
as
well,
so
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
Given
the
information
we
had,
we
really
tried
to
recreate
exactly
what
was
there,
the
house
immediately
to
the
north
to
the
right
if
you're
facing
this
East
Elevation
is
a
very
similar
property
as
well.
I
It's
a
historic
contributing
structure,
so
this
one's
very
closely
modeled
after
that
home
as
well
and
it'll,
fit
very
well
on
the
Block
other
than
that
no
I
appreciate
it
any
of
the
changes
that
you
know
we
that
you
guys
mentioned
and
and
that
staff
will
make
note
of
we're
one
we're
okay,
making
those
changes.
Obviously
aligning
you
know
some
of
the
the
windows
on
this
structure
and
just
making
sure
everything's
nice
and
symmetrical
and
that's
it
I,
don't
have
any
more
comments.
So
thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Okay,
we've
already
asked
once
I'll
ask
again:
are
there
any
public
comments?
I
see
none
so
now,
we'll
close
that
portion
of
the
hearing
and
now
the
Commissioners
can
discuss
the
case.
D
Yeah
I
mean
I,
like
the
fact
that
that,
because
the
smaller
building,
all
the
little
detailing
got
a
little
smaller
everything
just
got
scaled
down
a
little
bit
gave
me
a
little
more
delicate
I
like
that.
I
am
a
little
concerned
about
the
Columbus
Avenue
elevation.
If
that
that
could
use
a
little
more
help,
but.
D
Just
to
coordinate
the
cap
on
the
brick
piers
and
or
clarify
that
with
staff
clarify
the
window
types
from
double
hunger
Singh
because
of
the
error
things
and
then
the
AC
unit,
location
screen.
Those
are
my
only
four
concerns.
K
C
23-224
for
the
property
located
at
2702,
North,
Morgan
Street,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
with
conditions-
yes,
oh
I'm,
sorry
with
the
following
conditions.
Okay,
these
following
items
shall
be
shall
be
coordinated
with
staff.
The
Caps
will
be.
C
A
G
The
proposed
project
includes
renovations
to
the
primary
structure,
a
new
construction
of
an
accessory
structure
and
site
improvements.
This
is
a
non-contributing
structure
in
the
historic
district
and
I
would
like
to
note
that
there
was
a
previous
approval
for
an
accessory
structure
here,
but
the
applicant
has
made
some
modifications
to
it
at
this
time
and.
G
So
the
properties
located
in
the
Seminole
Heights
historic
district-
this
is
the
location
of
the
of
the
subject
site
is
shown
in
green,
near
the
North
End
of
the
district
off
Central
Avenue.
G
G
Front
of
the
the
house:
that's
existing
on
the
street,
we're
looking
taking
the
view
to
look
at
its
East
Side,
so
we're
facing
west.
G
Here
we
have
a
view
looking
along
the
driveway
along
the
south
side
of
the
house,.
G
This
is
the
rear
of
the
existing
structure.
G
L
K
L
Good
evening,
I
am
Alan
Dobbs
with
Florida
Design
Studio
I
am
the
agent
for
Brian
and
Katie.
Smith
I
worked
with
them,
starting
back
in
2016
when
they
bought
this
house.
It
was
built
in
1963
and
they
decided
that
they
didn't
care
for
the
style
of
the
house
and
they
wanted
to
turn
it
into
arts
and
crafts
style.
So
so
that's
the
predominant
style
of
this
house.
You
can
see
on
the
on
the
Elmo
where
the
house
started
out
and
then
and
then
this
is
during
construction
and
then
and
then
this
is
the
rear.
L
Porch
I'm
gonna
just
show
real
real
quickly
the
original
site
plan,
because
that's
where
we
determined
where
the
accessory
building
was
going
to
go,
because
when
we
started
with
this
project
we
sort
of
Master
Plan
the
whole
project,
and
so
naturally
the
driveway
went
along
this
side
of
the
property
to
an
auto
court
and
then
it
detached
successory
building
at
the
time.
My
clients
just
wanted
to
do
a
one
story,
so
they
did
a
one
story
and
that
received
approval
in
2016,
and
then
it
was
constructed
a
few
years
later.
They're
like
oh.
L
So
so
this
was
the
project
from
2018
that
received
approval
of
unanimous
approval,
with,
as
you
can
see,
the
accessory
structure
in
the
same
location,
roughly
the
same
footprint,
but
the
stairs
up
to
the
second
floor
came
along
this
side
and
there
was
a
porch
on
this
side
and
then
there's
a
dormer
on
this
side,
and
this
shows
the
floor
plans
of
the
first
and
second
for
and
then
this
shows
the
building
in
relationship
to
the
accessory
structure.
L
The
reason
we're
back
here
by
the
way
is
because
my
clients
decided
to
add
a
couple
more
components.
They
wanted
to
enclose
the
rear,
porch
and
also
they
wanted
to
add
a
covered
connector,
but
also
the
accessory
building
with
the
five
years
had
expired.
So
we
had
to
bring
the
building
back
so
I'm
going
through
this
just
so.
L
The
board
understands
that
this
project
has
was
previously
approved
as
you're,
seeing
here,
with
only
a
few
exceptions
which
I'll
point
out
later,
but
I
thought
it
was
important
to
see
the
relationship
of
the
building
to
the
house
and
and
then
this
shows
the
stair.
The
stair
was
relocated,
we
added
a
Breezeway
and
then
we
enclosed
this
porch
I
want
a
staff
comments
was
wanting
to
see
the
building
adjacent
to
the
existing
elevation.
So
these
are
really
the
existing
elevations.
L
Okay,
so
I
had
to
get
everything
more
organized,
so
this
sheet
here
shows
the
the
site
plan.
Part
of
the
site,
improvements
that
we're
doing
is
we're
going
to
add
a
new
fence
here.
I
have
some
photos
to
show
the
existing
fence
that
was
built
by
the
neighbors,
so
we're
going
to
match
that
style,
fence
and
add
a
gate
here,
we're
going
to
extend
the
concrete
ribbons
to
the
gate.
My
clients
want
to
put
brick
between
them
from
the
front
of
the
house
back
and
then
have
the
auto
Port.
L
Here
again,
the
structure
is
in
the
same
location
with
the
Dormer
and
the
porch
on
this
side,
but
the
stairs
move
back
to
here
so
that
we
have
the
covered
connector
here
and
then
you
can
see
the
porch
there.
So
the
way
that
works
out
in
floor
plan
is
the
connector
is
centered
on
the
existing
columns
and
at
six
foot
ten
inches
wide,
and
this
shows
a
again
a
roof
plan
to
kind
of
show
the
massing
and
form
of
the
of
the
building
and
the
Breezeway.
L
L
This
is
just
going
to
be
concrete.
We
talked
about
using
pavers
but
because
of
all
the
hard
turning
pavers
would
tend
to
migrate.
So
this
is
just
all
concrete
and
I
did
not
show
a
scoring
pattern,
but
that's
something
that
we
will
certainly
do
and
we'll
also
coordinate
that
with
staff.
But
it
is
not
really
within
the
public
realm.
Okay,
that's
behind
the
fence,
so
you
can't
really
see
it
from
the
street.
L
L
L
And
these
columns
sit
on
a
masonry
base
which
you'll
see
in
the
elevations
again
to
match
the
existing
we're
doing
two
single
garage
doors
to
break
down
the
scale
of
the
front
of
the
house
rather
than
having
one
large
garage
door
and
then,
on
the
second
floor,
it's
basically
like
a
bedroom
area,
a
studio
area
bathroom
and
like
a
little
I,
don't
want
to
say
kitchen
because
it's
not
accessory
dwelling
unit,
but
it
could
be
it.
L
L
L
One
of
the
things
to
notice
is
that
we,
we
don't
have
the
skirt.
We
want
to
keep
the
detail
of
this
building
a
little
bit
simpler
than
the
main
house.
We
did
the
skirt
on
the
main
house
because
it
was
a
low
one-story
masonry
home
and
we
wanted
to
give
it
a
little
bit
of
a
height
to
it
and
so,
but
on
this
building
we
didn't
want
to
do
it
because
we
wanted
a
little
less
detail
on
this
building,
but
also
the
windows
do
not
have
the
divided
lights.
L
They're,
just
simple
one
over
one,
the
Gable
in
vents
are
going
to
be
similar
to
the
existing
house,
and
the
garage
doors
will
be
a
Carriage,
House
type
garage
door.
You
see
how
the
debris
way
is
in
section
right
here
and
then
it
connects
it
dies
into
so
we're
going
to
have
a
little
partial
wall
here
which,
on
this
elevation.
L
Down
here
this,
this
roof
will
die
into
a
little
half
wall
there,
but
you
can
see
the
stairs
are,
have
been
reconfigured
and
go
up
on
the
side,
so
they're
very
that
being
in
the
back
they're
they're,
not
as
prominent,
and
then
the
Breezeway
itself
is
just
three
Bays
and
then
the
the
last
elevation.
If
I
can
move
it
up
high
enough.
L
So
in
the
back
of
the
house,
with
the
with
the
porch
proportion
wise,
we
looked
it
to
encasement
windows,
but
with
casement
windows.
They
have
more
vertical
proportions,
but
single
hung
Windows
the
same,
divided
lights,
to
match
the
rest
of
the
house,
keep
the
same
skirt
or
not
a
skirt,
but
like
a
sill
that
aligns
with
the
top
of
the
skirt
and
then
just
signing
below
it.
L
And
then
you
can
kind
of
see
the
zoom
into
the
columns,
the
The
Columns
sitting
on
the
masonry
base,
and
then
this
is
the
South
elevation
and
again
the
same
three
windows
and
closing
this
end
of
the
porch.
You
have
the
three
Bays
here
and
then
on
the
accessory
building.
Again,
this
is
what
was
approved
before
you
just
have
a
simple
Dormer,
a
simple
Square
awning
window
in
the
bathroom
and
then
siding
here,
smooth
Hardy,
siding
no
corner
boards
to
match
the
existing
house.
L
I
want
to
divert
a
little
bit
just
to
show
some
pictures
to
sort
of
reinforce
some
of
the
design
elements
that
I
was
talking
about
on
the
elevations.
L
This
shows
the
where
the
ribbons
end
but
they're
going
to
be
extended
back
a
little
bit,
but
that's
where
the
new
accessory
building
is
going.
This
picture
shows
the
backyard
in
this
vicinity.
You
can
see
the
fence
is
built
on
this
side
and
on
the
other
side,
which
you'll
see
another
photograph,
but
this
will
be
replaced
with
the
similar
fence
on
this
side.
L
This
is
looking
back
towards
the
front
of
the
house.
You
see
a
little
bit
better
detail
of
the
column
in
the
base
there.
This
part
of
the
slab
will
will
be
cut
away
because
the
new
wall
is
going
to
be
centered
in
the
column
so
that
the
column
will
still
read
on
the
outside.
So
it
looks
like
the
porch
was
enclosed
and
by
the
way,
they're
enclosing
it
because
they
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
the
back
porch.
L
L
This
is
another
view
of
the
cons
and
again
the
Raptor
Tails.
There's
the
the
real
elevation
I
know
staff
had
all
these
pictures
and
then
here
and
then
on
this
side,
we're
going
to
have
not
all
windows
we're
going
to
French
doors
so
that
not
only
can
you
leave
from
this
Center
Bay
to
enter
the
Breezeway,
but
he
wants
to
have
like
a
grilling
patio
or
something
out
here,
so
he
can
get
out
on
the
side
over
here.
L
Exactly
how
we're
going
to
do
it
so
that
it's
consistent,
but
it
will
be
that
same
sort
of
fats
and
then
this
is
this
is
just
the
existing
fence,
but
you
can
see
so
we'll
just
extend
that
over
and
then
have
a
have
a
gate
there.
One
of
the
Ron
had
mentioned
at
the
design
review
meeting
about,
maybe
casement
windows
would
be
more
appropriate
in
the
rear,
porch
and
which
case
windows
are
used.
A
lot
on,
especially
on
front
porches
but
rear
porches,
there's
more
of
a
pattern
of
single
hung
or
double
hung
Windows.
L
This
is
actually
my
house
in
in
the
back
here.
It's
all
single
hung,
windows
and
there's
there's
some
other
examples
of
that
in
the
neighborhood
and
then
one
of
the
other
staff
comments
was
related
to
the
Breezeway
being,
maybe
not
appropriate
or
are
too
dominant.
But
it's
a
very
practical
element
to
have
it's
there's
precedent
for
it.
So
I
went
and
got
some
pictures
of
some
breezeways
I
mean
this
is
very
similar
to
what
we're
doing,
although
we're
going
to
have
a
flat
ceiling.
L
L
Okay,
so
the
next
thing
really
with
the
the
sort
of
the
details
of
the
house-
and
these
are
these-
are
blown
up
details,
y'all
I,
think
y'all
have
these
details
in
your
packet,
but
these
it's
helpful
to
have
a
little
a
little
better
blown
up
detail,
but
okay
I'll
just
start
with
the
Breezeway
connector.
L
We
have
the
the
exposed
2x6
rafter
tail,
which
will
match
the
existing
we'll,
have
a
wood,
clad
or
hearty
clad
beam
that
will
match
the
width
of
the
column,
which
is
seven
inches,
and
then
that
will
sit
on
top
of
a
12
by
12
masonry
base
with
stucco
to
match
existing
finish,
and
then
it
will
have
a
precast
concrete
cap
that
has
a
nice
sand
finish
to
it
and
we'll
have
one
quarter,
inch
radius,
corners
on
all
the
outside
corners.
L
This
is
the
Breeze
what
or
the
porch
enclosed.
Basically,
it's
just
the
same
column.
This
is
the
existing
column,
so
we're
going
to
set
the
windows
to
the
inside
so
that
the
column
remains
identified
on
the
outside
and
we're
going
to
pour
a
new
slab
on
the
interior,
and
then
this
will
all
be
insulated
and
trimmed
out
to
match
the
existing
trim
on
the
inside
and
then
on.
The
outside,
we'll
have
a
side
casing
the
match
existing
window
casing,
and
then
this
will
be
a
smooth,
Hardy
lap
siding
to
match
the
existing
house.
L
The
accessory
building
again,
this
was
all
approved
before
on
the
accessory
building,
but
I'll
go
back
through
it
again,
starting
from
the
top
just
dimensional
asphalt,
shingles
the
2x6
rafter
Tails,
as
I
mentioned
a
little
bit
steeper,
roof,
12
and
6
on
the
accessory
building,
with
only
a
four
foot
high
plate
from
the
second
floor,
because
we
wanted
to
keep
the
mass
of
this
building
low
engineered
floor,
trusses
again
to
keep
the
structural
efficiency
and
have
this
minimum
as
depth
as
possible
here
and
then
two
by
frame
walls
with
Hardy
signing
on
the
outside
and
then
the
garage
slab
and
then
a
raise
kind
of
like
concrete
sill,
because
the
garage
is
required
to
have
a
slope
to
it.
L
L
This
is
the
beam
at
the
end
bearing
of
the
roof
Rafters,
and
then
this
is
at
the
ridge
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
interior
wall
is
two
by
six.
This
is
sections
actually
through
a
door
and
you
can
also
see.
Oh
sorry,
let
me
move
this
up
and
then
you
can
kind
of
see
the
stairs
in
the
background
kind
of
come
up
over
and
then
up
there.
L
And
then
another
detail
is
the
Gable
in
detail
we'll
have
brackets
that
match
or
are
similar
to
the
existing
house.
I'll
have
a
bar
drafter.
That
is
so.
These
brackets
will
be
structural.
That's
why
it
goes
back
into
the
structure
here.
L
The
siding
will
continue
up
onto
the
Gable,
except
where
we
have
the
decorative
vent
which
will
match
existing.
We
have
a
closed
attic,
so
it
will
not
be
vented
and
two
by
four
frame
walls
on
the
second
floor
and
as
I
mentioned
before
the
engineer
trusses
on
the
a
second
floor
structure
and
then
two
by
six
frame
walls
on
the
first
floor.
L
L
So
the
first
thing
is
just
the
the
shingles
we're
using
a
dimensional
asphalt,
shingle
that
will
match
the
existing
manufacturer,
color
and
everything
as
existing,
we'll
use.
The
darker
drip
edge
and
also
the
smaller
drip
adds
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
times.
Contractors
make
the
mistake
of
using
a
deeper
drip
edge,
which
causes
the
water
to
flow
onto
the
end
of
the
rafter
tail
and
making
it
rot
out
prematurely.
L
Here
is
an
eave
detail
of
existing
house.
Again,
you
see
the
two
by
six
for
aftertails,
the
Builder
actually
built
this.
In
correctly,
this
siding
was
supposed
to
continue
all
the
way
up
between
the
rafters
and
that
siding
color
supposed
to
continue
up
between
the
rafters,
which
is
the
pattern
for
almost
every
house
I
know
of
In
Summer
Heights,
and
then
you
can
see
beyond
there
the
the
bracket
and
also
notice
the
corners
they're
they're,
not
mitered,
they
have
an
alternating
butt
joint.
L
This
is
the
problem
that
I
was
talking
about,
and
this
is
not
really
this
project,
but
I
think
it's
good
for
public
education.
This
is
what
you
don't
want
to
do.
You
don't
want
to
have
it
parsley
primed
and
you
don't
want
the
drip
coming
right
onto
the
end
grain,
because
this
will
rot
out
within
a
year
easily.
L
L
The
windows
that
we're
using
will
be
just
like
the
existing
Windows,
which
are
a
gelled
one
premium,
Atlantic
vinyl
windows.
They
have
a
pretty
good
proportion.
These
are.
These
are
simulated,
divided
lights,
but,
as
I
said,
we
aren't
doing
the
divided
lights,
but
the
casing
and
and
hit
on
the
side
and
the
head
casing
will
match.
This
shows
a
little
bit
more
close-up
detail.
So
you
see
the
thickness
of
the
side
casing
and
how
and
how
the
joinery
works
there
and
then
on
the
cell.
L
L
And
these
are
the
windows
that
were
used
in
gel
one
premium:
vinyl
the
we
have
a
couple
french
scores
at
the
they
go
from
the
enclosed
porch
to
the
breezeway,
so
those
are
just
simple,
sash
or
glass
doors.
So
these
I
presented
to
this
board
many
times,
they're
they're,
a
plastic
or
vinyl
window
or
door.
L
With
the
six
lights,
we
do
have
the
six
lights
on
the
on
the
door,
because
that
just
felt
a
little
more
appropriate
than
just
having
a
single
light
on
the
garage
door
or
the
person
door
and
then
the
for
the
garage
door.
Again,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
just
doing
a
Carriage
House
type
door,
we'll
do
the
three
over
I
have
it
drawn
as
one
with
vertical
panels,
but
there's
a
lot
of
different
options
and
all
of
them
are
appropriate
for
an
arts
and
crafts
style.
L
L
L
L
This
is
the
ceiling
fan
they
have
on
their
back
porch.
So
we
would
have
that
on
Palmer
on
the
first
floor
or
the
port,
the
ground
level
porch
at
the
accessory
building,
see
a
little
bit
better
detail
of
the
porch
ceiling
there
and
then
the
last
thing
is
a
light
fixture
over
the
door.
When
you
have
these
Carriage
House
type
garage
doors,
it's
always
nice.
When
you
have
these
sort
of
gooseneck
lights,
that
create
a
nice
parabolic
light
pattern
on
the
door,
and
so
that's
that's
our
material
palette.
L
So
I'd
just
like
to
summarize
by
just
pointing
out
that
this
project
basically
consists
of
three
parts
enclosing
the
existing
rear,
porch,
adding
a
Breezeway
to
connect
to
the
new
accessory
structure
and
then
the
new
accessory
structure,
which
was
previously
proved
unanimously,
with
the
exception
of
the
few
details,
I
pointed
out
like
the
reconfiguration
of
of
the
stairs
and
also
the
the
breezeway.
L
So
with
that
I
conclude
my
presentation.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
Elaine
Lund
historic
preservation
staff
staff
found
that
this
project
was
consistent
with
the
Seminole
Heights
design.
Guidelines.
I
have
no
further
comments
at
this
time,
so
I
am
available
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
A
It
will
ask
if
there's
any
public
comment
see
none.
We
will
now
go
into
our
questions.
We'll
start
with
commissioner.
B
Mr
Dobbs
I
would
like
to
address
with
you
the
windows
that
you'll
be
using
for
the
enclosure
of
the
rear
porch
before
we
get
involved
with
that,
I
would
like
to
ask
a
somewhat
unrelated
question
which
expecting
the
porch
itself.
That
is
an
existing
porch
correct.
Yes,
it
is,
and
it
is
being
enclosed.
L
That's
a
really
good
question:
I'm
glad
you
asked
it
and
it's
the
second
part.
We
want
to
keep
it
so
that
when
you're
sitting
out
there,
you
feel
like
you're
on
a
porch,
and
you
have
the
option
to
open
up
all
the
windows
when
the
weather's,
nice
or
close
the
windows,
but
all
the
interior.
You
know
I
mentioned
the
beadboard
ceiling,
the
the
light
fixtures
that
we
have
in
there,
the
exterior
siding
that's
on
the
building,
the
flooring
all
that
well,
the
flooring
is
different.
L
We're
going
to
have
to
raise
the
flooring
up
because
right
now
there's
a
about
a
four
or
six
inch
step
down,
so
they
want
to
bring
that
up,
make
it
not
as
as
severe
and
so
but
on
the
inside,
though
it
will
be
detailed.
Yes,
exactly
like
a
porch
and
then
also
as
I
mentioned
before.
All
the
windows
in
the
fenestration
will
be
justified
to
the
inside
of
the
column.
L
B
With
the
answering
of
that
question
in
that
fashion,
I
would
like
now
to
address
the
windows,
because,
if
you
remember
correctly
from
the
from
the
elevations
you're
look,
we
are
looking
at
a
bank
of
windows
that
are
single
hung
and
have
a
divided
upper
light.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
okay,
now
I'm
thinking
since
we're
now
dealing
with
an
exterior
porch,
an
informal
space
for
all
practical
purposes
that
perhaps
that
informality
should
continue
or
be
considered?
Also
for
the
windows?
Remember
you're,
dealing
with
with
French
doors,
which
are
monolithic,
single
light
Windows.
B
First
of
all,
I
think
that
perhaps
have
you
considered
that
they
should
be
a
single
light,
upper
and
lower
windows
and
secondly,
because
of
its
being
an
exterior
but
enclosed
space,
with
the
intention
of
opening
for
ventilation
and
environmental
conditions
that
the
window
should
actually
be
double
hung.
So
you
can
crack
the
bottom
and
crack
the
top
for
that
ventilation
flow.
L
Those
are
great
points
and
I,
I,
agree
totally
and
I
think
my
client
would
be
fine
having
the
the
top
sash,
basically
having
101
one
over
one,
but
also
having
them
as
a
double
hung.
Windows.
What
I
did
struggle
with
just
in
case
anybody's
going
to
you
know
talk
about
whether
or
not
casement
windows,
instead
of
double
hung
or
single
hung
is,
is
the
proportion
of
casement
when
those
are
vertical.
L
So
when
I
put
the
vertical
windows
in
there,
it
ended
up
being
a
whole
lot
more
windows
and,
and
it
was
created
a
lot
of
vertical
lines.
It
just
did
not
look
right
proportionally,
whereas
the
three
windows
that
I
have
shown-
you
know
those
fit
very
nicely,
but
I
I
agree
with
by
taking
out
the
the
The
Divided
lights.
L
B
What
I
see
here
is,
with
the
enclosure
of
this
porch,
almost
divorces,
the
porch
from
the
the
total
aesthetic
of
the
main
house.
It
becomes
part
of
the
informal
assembly
of
what's
happening
in
the
backyard,
and
all
of
that
is
being
done
with
playing.
Thus,
you
know,
over
and
under
Windows,
to
begin
with,
so
that
kind
of
matches
that
it
also
matches
up
with
with
your
monolithic
French
doors
as
well,
because
those
are
not
divided
either
right.
L
Okay
and
and
along
that
line,
excuse
the
the
pun,
but
the
the
I
took
the
opportunity
of
having
this
heavy
sill,
which
is
the
top
of
the
skirt
being
the
cell
of
the
windows,
but
not
having
this
that
skirt.
But
these
vertical
boards,
but
having
something
much
more
simple,
like.
K
L
What
you're
suggesting
so
there
so
it
is
sort
of
differentiated,
so
that's
much
more
of
a
sort
of
a
simple
enclosure
rather
than
having
the
details
a
little
too
elaborate.
B
Now
I'd
like
to
add
one
more
question
to
my
line
of
thinking
here.
B
The
nature
of
the
Breezeway
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
idea
of
the
Breezeway
but
I'm
wondering
if,
if,
if
having
that
flat
ceiling
loses
for
you,
some
of
the
airiness
that
more
of
a
of
of
a
ceiling
that
follows
the
truss
line
or
the
rafter
line
or
perhaps
be
available
to
you.
Have
you
thought
of
that
as
part
of
this.
L
Plan,
well,
you
know
it's
it's
again.
That's
a
really
good
question,
because
when
I,
when
I
was
putting
together,
the
samples
of
other
breezeways
and
stuff
I
came
across
that
picture
that
had
and
I'm
trying
to
find
it
again
that
had
that
particular
Breeze
right,
oh
here,
it
is
because
I
thought
that
was
that
was
real,
attractive
and
appropriate,
so
yeah,
if,
if
the
board
is
leaning
towards
recommending
doing
something
like
that
for
the
ceiling,
you
know,
I
think
that
would
be
fine.
L
It'd,
be
a
little
a
little
challenging
with
the
structure
just
because
we
would
we'd
have
to
have
either
a
ridge
beam
that
went
from
here
to
here
or
have
collar
ties
or
or
something
but
but
I
understand
what
you're
saying.
B
D
J
B
D
L
There
any
AC
for
the
porch,
yes
they're
gonna
they're
gonna.
They
they
talk
to
an
air
conditioning
company
and
and
because
their
unit
was
slightly
oversized
and
all
these
windows
are
insulated.
They're
being
told
that
they
can
probably
work
it
off
their
existing
unit
so
yeah.
So
we
we're
not
proposing
any
additional
condensing
unit
on
the
adjacent
to
the
house,
but
but
I
guess.
L
If,
if
if
we
did
have
to
go
that
route
and
if,
if
y'all
again,
if
y'all
wanted
to
make
it
a
contingency,
if
we
do
end
up
doing
a
condensing
unit,
all
that
equipment
is
on
this
side
of
the
house
and
that
that
fence
that
I
had
mentioned
is
I.
Think
it's
like
right
here.
Okay,
so.
D
I,
just
I
just
wanted
to
ask
to
make
sure
that
was
yeah.
Okay,
also
missing
I
think
is
the
overhang
depth
on
the
accessory
structure.
D
It
just
said
per
plan,
okay
and
I'm,
just
wondering
if
it
was
going
to
be
slightly
less
than
the
main
house
or
not.
If
you
have
a
dimension
for
that.
L
Let
me,
let
me
find
my
oh
yeah
per
plan,
so
so
the
house
we
did
just
a
typical
24
inch
overhead
and
yeah.
They
all
say
per
plan-
okay,
sorry
about
that,
but
no
it
would
be.
It
would
be.
24
inches,
I
I
feel
like
the
it
shouldn't
be
less
because
when
you
have
a
little
bit
larger
structure,
more
massive
structure,
I
think
the
Lesser
overhang
wouldn't
look
right,
but
24
inch
is
such
a
standard.
Overhang
I
think
it
would
look
appropriate.
D
I
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
to
clarify
somewhere
in
the
record.
I
don't
have
any
other
questions.
Oh
I
did
have
one
have
you
actually
talked
to
zoning
by
any
chance
is
and
have
you
had
a
pre-planned
review
with
zoning
around
like
that
about
connecting
the
accessory
structure
to
the
main
structure
and
whether
that
makes
up
your
accessory
structure,
not
an
accessory
structure
anymore?
Yes,.
L
I
have-
and
they
didn't
have
any
comments
at
at
our
hpdrc
meeting,
but
it
is
in
the
code
that
you're
allowed
to
connect
to
accessory
structure
with
the
primary
structure,
with
the
covered
walkway,
with
mainly
two
conditions
that
it
remains
open
on
both
sides
right
and
it's
not
wider
than
seven
foot.
Three
inches
I,
don't
know
where
that
Dimension
comes
from
great
number.
D
L
L
L
Ing
house:
it
is
it's
not
one
by
it's,
not
one
by
six,
it's
it's!
Actually,
it's
won
by,
or
it's
actually
probably
about
3
8
or
a
half
inch
by
five
and
a
half
inches,
and
the
contractor
that
did
this
didn't
do
a
very
good
job
because
he
used
finish
nails
to
nail
it.
So
you
know
wood
obviously
moves
a
lot.
He
did
prime
it.
So
it
moves
a
lot,
but
yeah
I
think
he
just
used
sections
of
fence
like
thin
slats.
K
L
C
I
have
only
one
no
question
just
a
comment,
and
that
is
that
I
think
the
double
hung
window
ideas
very,
very
good
and
and
I
personally
love.
My
double
double
hung
Windows,
but
the
other
thing
is
that
the
casement
window
since
you've
now
sort
of
divorce,
the
detailing
of
the
enclosure
for
the
rear
porch
from
the
house
that
if
you
were
to
lower
the
and
not
match
the
the
line
of
the
skirt,
but
you
could
make
those
windows
a
little
lower
and
perhaps
then
use
a
casement.
L
I
would
like
to
address
it,
though,
because
that
is
something
that
I
did
look
at
in
the
design
early
on,
because
with
something
like
this
yeah
you
almost
like
the
New
Orleans
vernacular,
maybe
take
them
all
the
way
down
to
the
to
the
Fort,
but
it
didn't
look
right
and
you
know
with
regulating
lines.
You
know
that
Frank
Lloyd
Wright
did
so
much
of
just
having
those
continuous
lines.
A
L
A
L
L
Yeah
it'll
tight,
there's
actually
already
it
sort
of
shows
it
there.
So
yeah
we'll
tie
in
here
and
then
you
know
we'll
have
the
gates
there.
It's.
This
comes
off
the
back
corner.
L
I
knew
y'all
were
going
to
ask
that
I
don't
have
anything,
but
hopefully
the
board
will
allow
me
to
work
that
out
with
staff.
K
L
A
L
The
windows
are
are
101,
with
the
exception
of
where
I
mentioned,
like
the
awning
window
at
the
bathroom,
but
the
ones
at
the
sun
room
or
the
porch
that
were
enclosing,
those
will
be
double
hung
and
but
all
the
other
ones
will
still
remain
as
single
hung.
Just
because
you
know
I
know
my
client's
gonna
frown
at
the
additional
cost
of
double
hungs,
but
single
hungs.
When
they're.
You
know
these
gentlemen
premium
Atlantic
vinyl.
They
they
look
like
a
double
hung.
You
know
they
just
don't
function
that.
A
A
L
Sure
yeah
I
have
a
wall,
the
Gable
and
wall
section.
So
when
you
use
final
windows
or
metal
windows,
it's
a
little
bit
different,
but
with
standard
Windows
like
aluminum
plaid
with
Windows
vinyl
Cloud
wind
windows,
they're
standard
jammed
at
this
Jam
depth
is
4
9
16,
because
that's
a
four
and
a
half
inch.
You
know
finished
wall.
L
But
if
you
do
a
two
by
six
wall,
then
you
just
have
a
two
inch
Jam
extension
on
the
inside.
So
that's
that's.
Why
and
we
didn't
need
it
structurally
to
do
two
by
six
walls,
yeah
that
a
little
extra
space
you
know
is
very
helpful
but
yeah.
So
these
are
two
by
four
frame
walls,
and
then
the
outside
will
look
exactly
like
the
pictures
that
I
showed
you
earlier
of
the
window
on
the.
L
It
will
have
the
same.
Telecaster
taught
me
this
term.
It's
called
profile
panning,
it's
the
relation
like
you've
taken
a
window
and
you
turn
it
horizontal.
It's
the
profile
of
that
pan.
So,
like
the
casing,
sticks
out.
You
know
at
least
an
inch
and
then
the
sash
steps
back
and
then
the
glass
steps
back
so
so
yeah
we'll
have
that
that
same
profile
panning
as
the
as
existing
house.
L
L
A
L
K
A
To
get
to
the
breezeway,
if
you
could
bring
that
up.
A
L
They
were
just
meant
to
kind
of
show
the
the
massing
scale
and
proportion
of
a
Breezeway
compared
to
the
accessory
structure
and
primary
structure
on
on
either
end
and
typically
they
would
either
die
into
like
a
two-story
mass
or
they
would
come
off
of
a
porch
or
something
like
that.
So
that
was
the
intent
of
that.
J
A
L
I
I
think
the
the
design
guidelines
and
the
Secretary
of
interior
standards
talk
about
precedent,
but
they
also
talk
about
unique
and
innovative
solutions
that
that
keep
the
intent
or
the
character
of
the
the
architecture
or
Integrity
of
the
architecture
and
and
that's
I
feel,
is
what
I'm
doing
here,
because
you
know
the
breezeway
you
know
comes
off
of
the
same
roof
line
as
the
porch
and
the
porch
is
not
very
big.
It
just
has
an
eight
foot
ceiling
so
to
do
anything
other
than
that
would
look
wouldn't
look
right.
L
You
couldn't
go
less
because
then
you
wouldn't
have
proper
Headroom.
You
couldn't
go
up,
because
that
would
look
odd.
It
would
be
too
tall.
So
so
you
come
off
of
that
and
then
also
you
just
use
the
same
roof
slope
as
the
port.
So
it's
almost
like
just
an
extension
of
the
porch
and
then
where
and
then
where
it
ties
into
the
accessory
structure.
Again,
you
can
kind
of
see
it
there
in
cross
section
that
roof
line
right.
There
just
continues
on
up
that's
the
roof
line.
That's
right
right
here!
L
So
you
have
your
ridge
running
across
here,
but
you
don't
want
to
run
your
Ridge
here,
because
you'll
have
a
valley
on
the
other
side,
so
you
just
continue
the
roof,
the
roof
on
up
and
so
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
what
what
what
else
could
be
done,
make
it
more
simple
and
more
appropriate,
more
fitting
for
for
for
this
and
again
there's
a
very
pragmatic,
functional
reason
for
this.
You
know
my
clients
won't
be
able
to
get
from
their
house
to
the
garage.
L
No
because
that's
that
was
my
clients
wanted
to
be
able
to
get
from
the
house
to
the
garage
when
it's
pouring
down
to
rain,
and
that
was
the
and
and
it's
very
common,
even
though
I
didn't
show
anything
specific
In,
Summer
Heights.
But
it's
a
very
common
thing
and
his
sort
comes
when
you
have
a
detached
carriage
house
to
have
some
sort
of
covered
connector
to
it.
L
I'd
just
like
to
reinforce
the
three
components
to
this.
Like
yeah,
we
talked
about
the
the
Breezeway
and-
and
you
know
what
we
can
do
about.
L
The
fenestration,
which
you
know
we're
acceptable,
is
acceptable
as
the
condition
the
Breezeway
I
think
it
sort
of
is
what
it
is,
and
then
the
the
accessory
structure
is
basically
like
I,
said
a
couple
times:
it's
the
exact
same
structure
that
was
approved
unanimously,
with
the
exception
of
the
Breezeway
and
reconfiguring
the
stairs
or
relocating
and
reconfiguring
the
stairs
and
then
lastly,
I
believe
I
addressed
all
the
staff
comments
as
well.
A
Great
thank
you.
Thank
you,
we'll
now
close
the
public
hearing
and
we'll
discuss
as
a
commission,
anybody
want
to.
B
Start
I
don't
have
any
issues
with
this.
He
includes
include,
including
the
nature
of
of
the
Breezeway
I'm,
actually
surprised,
we
don't
see
more
yeah.
B
Mean
I'm
thinking
of
his
you
know
a
sideways
pork
per
share
in
some
respects.
Yeah.
You
know,
but
there's
two
other
items
that
I
think
we
need
to
just
to
make
sure
that
we
we
address
both
coordination.
One
is
the
new
gate
as
they
may
occur.
We
know
we
have
one
at
the
driveway.
We
may
have
a
replacement
on
the
other
side
of
the
door,
yeah,
okay,
it
may
or
may
not
be
there.
B
You
know,
that's
that's
neither
here
or
there,
and
then
we
have
the
the
nature
of
the
scoring
of
the
new
concrete
work.
B
It's
behind
the
fence,
but
I'm
thinking
that
you
know
there
should
be
I
mean
because
everything
is
now
hemmed
in
so
architecturally
back
there
all
that
there
should
be
at
least
some
passing
consideration
as
to
an
appropriate
scoring
Hatter,
because
it
is
because
there's
so
much
of
it.
It's
as
much
a
part
of
the
architecture.
B
K
B
A
A
It
creates
an
outdoor
space,
there's
a
lot
of
advantages
here
and
opportunities
for
the
for
the
homeowner
for
sure,
especially
if
you
start
doing
some
inlays
and
different
things.
But
again
a
lot
of
this
revolves
around
budgets
and
construct.
You
know.
Constructability
right
I
mean
that
that
comes
down
to
the
homeowner.
A
A
A
A
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
enclosing,
Porsches
I'm,
a
person
that
likes
to
design
outdoor
space
and
I
like
to
utilize
that,
and
in
this
particular
case
you
know,
if
it
were
my
home
I
would
probably
be
looking
at
maybe
some
screens,
but
definitely
not,
but
again,
it's
not
my
home,
so
I'm
not
here
to
pose
my
opinion
I'm.
Just
not
a
big
fan
of
enclosing,
especially
historic
fortunes.
A
Undertaking
so
you
know,
I'm
I'm,
not
arguing
the
design
or
is
not
a
good
design.
I
mean
I.
Do
think.
You
made
a
very
good
comment
about
the
Breezeway.
If
you
open
it
up
and
make
it
a
little
more
Airy
I
mean
that
was
a
very
attractive
Breezeway
that
he
presented
as
president
yeah,
but
I
can
assure
you
I,
don't
think
it's
in
Seminole
Heights.
D
Again,
I
I
would
I
would
argue
that
you
know
when
you
build
new.
This
is
new
construction,
though
the
the
house
is
new
construction.
You
know
the
the
breezeway's
new
construction,
the
accessory
structure
is
new
construction.
If
none
of
it's
a
contributing
structure
that
you're
allowed
to
you
know,
do
things
contrary
to
Neighborhood
precedent
as
long
as
it's
compatible
scale
and
massing,
but.
D
Size
of
the
accessory
structure
yeah,
but
the
house
on
the
other
side
is
humongous.
It's
massive
white
one,
it's
big
no
I
can
I
can
I
can
shoot
no
I'm,
not
going
to
say
that
anything
exists
in
Seminole
Heights
like
that
or
in
Tampa,
Heights
or
or
anything
else.
I,
don't
know
that
it
does
or
I
don't
know
that
it
doesn't.
I
do
know
that
in
as
he
brought
up
many
many
historic
buildings
that
are
opens
these
ways
connecting
various
outbuildings
and
various
structures
together
and
that's
that's
commonplace
in
historically
typically.
A
K
C
Okay,
all
right
I
I
can
say
that
quickly
because
I
have
the
same
list:
okay,
move
to
Grant,
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
Hearing
in
Arc,
23-204
..
Oh,
it's
238!
Sorry
in
the
arc
23-238
for
the
property
located
at
5910,
North
Central
Avenue,
with
the
following
conditions.
C
That
the
porch
windows
should
be
considered,
for
it
should
be
considered,
as
perhaps
one
over
one
and
double
hung,
that
the
gate
design
should
be
submitted
for
final
coordination
to
this
to
staff
and
that
the
ceiling
should
follow
the
structure
in
the
Breezeway
that
the
ceiling
should
follow
the
structure
in
the
breezeway
and
that
the
scoring
at
the
auto
Court
should
be
presented
to
staff
for
coordination,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
Tampa
Heights.