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B
Zachary
greco:
I'd
like
to
zachary
greco:
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
january
call
to
order
the
january
8th
public
hearing
for
the
8th
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
tampa's
architectural
city
of
tampa's.
Architectural.
Review.
Commission.-
review.
Commission.-
welcome
everyone.,
welcome
everyone..
My
name
is
zachary
greco
and
I'm
my
name
is
zachary
greco
and
I'm
the.
Chair
of
the
commission.-
the
chair
of
the
commission.-
if
you
are
here
to
presents
a
if
you
are
here
to
presents
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
project.
B
You
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough,
but
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
concise..
When
coming
to
the
microphone
when
coming
to
the
microphone
you
will
need
to
identify,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
B
to
the
project.
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
questions
during
your
presentation.
presentation.,
the
project
should
be
presented.
The
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
in
the
following:
order:
site:
plan,
elevations,,
architectural
plan,,
elevations,,
architectural
detail,
and
wall
sections.,
detail,
and
wall
sections.
staff
will
then
presents.
The
staff
will
then
presents
the
staff
report.
staff
report..
We
will
then
ask
the
public,
for
we
will
then
ask
the
public
for
comment.
comment.
B
following
your
presentation,,
the
following,
your
presentation,,
the
commissioners
will
be
asking
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation..
The
presentation.,
please
state,
and
spell
your
name,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
clearly,
if
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
the
project.
B
for
or
against
the
project.,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes..
Three
minutes.
take
some
time
now
to
summarize
take
some
time
now
to
summarize
your
comments.,
your
comments.,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly.,
very
quickly.,
following
public
comment,,
the
following
public
comment,,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes.
B
Applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
for
rebuttal..
The
public
hearing
will
then
be.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
closed..
The
only
comments
which
will
be
the
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
will
be
in
response
to
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
commissioners.
commissioners
will
then
discuss.
B
Testimony
given
at
the
public
hearing.
hearing.
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional,
responsibilities.
jurisdictional,
responsibilities.
owners
and
agents.
Are
owners
and
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
independently
responsible
to
make
any
permits
or
approvals.
make
any
permits
or
approvals.?
If
you
have
not
done
so
already,,
if
you
have
not
done
so
already,,
please
silence
cell
phones.,
please
silence
cell
phones..
At
this
point
I
will
ask
my
at
this
point.
I
will
ask
my
fellow
commissioners,
starting
on.
B
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C
C
B
F
Motion
passes.,
ms.
wells,,
do
you
want
to
ms.
wells,?
Do
you
want
to
address
the
board?
address
the
board?
cate
wells:
thank
you.,
cate
wells:.
Thank
you..
Now
would
be
the
time
that
any
now
would
be
the
time
that
any
of
the
commissioners
have
a
of
the
commissioners
have
a
conflict
of
interest
on
any
conflict
of
interest
on
any
matter
that
is
scheduled
for
matter
that
is
scheduled
for
this
evening,
or,
if
you
have
this
evening,
or
if
you
have
received
any
ex
parte,
received
any
ex
parte
communications
in
writing,
those
communications
in
writing,.
F
B
D
I
do
not
know
that
at
this
point.
point.
cate
wells:.
Thank
you
inform
cate
wells:.
Thank
you,
inform
clarifying.,
clarifying.
ron,
vila:
beverly
is
going
to
ron.
Vila:
beverly
is
going
to
scare
everybody
that
wants
to
scare
everybody
that
wants
to
testify.
testify..
Please
stand
up
and
raise
your
please
stand
up
and
raise
your
right.
Hand.
D
D
D
D
Currently
there
is
an
accessory
structure,,
noncontributing,
and
structure,
noncontributing,,
and
they
have
requested
for
the
they
have
requested
for
the
demolition
administratively.
demolition
administratively..
There
is
an
addition
to
the.
There
is
an
addition
to
the
primary
structure.
primary
structure..
They
are
going
to
do
some.
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D
D
This
parcel
uses
the
alley..
This
one
will
use
the
alley
as
this
one
will
use
the
alley
as
well
as
they
come
in..
Well
as
they
come
in.
and
I
have
some
pictures
to
and
I
have
some
pictures
to
show.
show.
in
1929,
there
was
no
in
1929,
there
was
no
construction
on
the
site,
and
construction
on
the
site,,
and
now
there
is
new
construction
on
now.
There
is
new
construction
on
the
site.
D
The
site.
this
address
here
that
faces
this
address
here
that
faces
richardson
comes
off
of
richardson
comes
off
of
richardson,,
they
use
the
alley
richardson,,
they
use
the
alley
for
vehicular
access,
and
for
vehicular
access,,
and
neither
does
this
one,,
and
this
neither
does
this
one,,
and
this
one
comes
off
of
hill..
D
D
D
As
we
go
to
the
east
elevation.
in
the
past,,
they
have
put
a
in
the
past,.
They
have
put
a
shed
component
over
here
with
an
shed
component
over
here
with
an
addition
through
the
drawings
addition
through
the
drawings.
This
evening,
you
will
see
that
this
evening
you
will
see
that
this
is
going
to
change,
and
this
this
is
going
to
change,
and
this
will
have
more
of
a
gable
roof.
D
D
D
D
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G
The
owners
moved
in
september
2012.
2012.,
my
first
meeting
exploring
the
my
first
meeting.
Exploring
the
big
picture
items
was,
may
2016,
big
picture
items
was,
may
2016
and
we
have
met
six
times
and
we
have
met
six
times:
westbound
ron
and
other
staff,
westbound
ron
and
other
staff
and
hpbrc
committees.
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G
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G
G
Room,
outer
bath,
raised
e-pay
deck,,
and
this
was
an
addition
deck,,
and
this
was
an
addition
at
some
point
other
than
what
at
some
point
other
than
what
was
original
on
the
sanborn
map,
was
original
on
the
sanborn
map,,
but
it's
a
step
down,,
it's
a
low,
but
it's
a
step.
Down,,
it's
a
low
ceiling,.
The
windows
are
smaller
ceiling,,
the
windows
are
smaller
scale,
and
you
will
see
more
of
scale,
and
you
will
see
more
of
that
as
we
go
through
the.
G
G
G
The
demo,
the
in-fill
areas
with
multiple
roof
forms
and
multiple
roof
forms
and
different
--
demoed
in-fill
area,
different
--,
demoed,
in-fill
area
with
multipe
roof
forms
and
with
multipe
roof
forms
and
differing
materials,.
We
have
got
differing
materials,,
we
have
got
metal,
shingles,,
we
have
got
metal,
shingles,,
we
have
got
canvas
awnings.
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G
G
G
G
Then
we
have
got
a
space
of
8
feet
to
the
detached
accessory
feet
to
the
detached
accessory
structure,,
which
is
set
back
15
structure,,
which
is
set
back
15
feet
from
the
alley
property
feet
from
the
alley:
property,
line.,
line.,
currently,,
the
detached
currently,.
The
detached
accessory
structure
is
only
11.5.
G
We
massed
that
4-foot
recess,
where
we
start
the
addition
and
where
we
start
the
addition
and
coming
out
over
the
stair
coming
out
over
the
stair
landing,,
which
allows
us
to
do
landing,,
which
allows
us
to
do
two:
symmetrical
bedrooms
and
two
symmetrical
bedrooms
and
arrive
at
a
center
line
of
that
arrive
at
a
center
line
of
that
two-story
mass,
set
that
back,
two-story
mass,
set
that
back,.
We
have
got
a
window
pattern.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
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G
G
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G
G
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G
G
G
G
G
And
we
are
going
to
relocate
this
fence
coming
off
right,
this
fence
coming
off
right,
here.
here..
We
are
going
to
move
that
to
the
we
are
going
to
move
that
to
the
front
and
it
will
conceal
these
front
and
it
will
conceal
these
mechanical
units.,
mechanical
units.
and
I'll
show
you
pictures
of
and
I'll
show
you
pictures
of
that.
that.,
there's
also
a
gas
meter
there.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
We
are
proposing
to
reexpress
those,,
but
in
brick,
veneer
over
those,,
but
in
brick
veneer
over
the
block
once
they
are
there
to
the
block
once
they
are
there
to
keep
them
as
flush
as
possible,
keep
them
as
flush
as
possible
and
then
repeat
the
red,
brick
and
then
repeat
the
red
brick
veneer
on
new
concrete
block
veneer
on
new
concrete
block.
Here,
where
we
have
the
new.
G
G
G
G
G
We
are
going
to
pull
this
fence
forward
to
this
spot
here,,
which
forward
to
this
spot
here,,
which
is
behind
the
tree,
and
it
hits,
is
behind
the
tree,,
and
it
hits
that
corner
of
the
house
that
corner
of
the
house
approximately
there
behind
the
approximately
there
behind
the
downspout.
downspout.
there's
the
meter.
G
G
G
G
This
is
just
one
example
of
a
window
on
the
side
of
the
house.
window
on
the
side
of
the
house.
27
inches
here.,
27,
inches
here.
38
here.
38
here.,
so
our
intention
would
be
to
so.
Our
intention
would
be
to
match,
whether
or
not
my
match,,
whether
or
not
my
elevations
reflect
that.
elevations
reflect
that..
Then
this
is
our
intent.
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G
G
G
G
Know,
two
columns,,
two
panels,,
it's
a
little
squatier
look
and
it's
a
little
squatier
look
and
we
are
prepared
to
go
either.
We
are
prepared
to
go
either
way..
This
would
be
a
more
way..
This
would
be
a
more
costly
door,
obviously,
kind
of
costly
door,
obviously,
kind
of
expensive,,
a
little
more
expensive,,
a
little
more
vertically.
G
G
G
G
G
D
Ron
vila:
staff
with
historic,
preservation.
preservation.
staff's
finding
is
this
project
staff's.
Finding
is
this
project
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
design
guidelines
with
the
design
guidelines
with
the
previous
plans
that
were
previous
plans
that
were
submitted.
submitted..
There
were
some
modifications.
D
D
D
D
reflected
on
the
bullet
items..
On
the
original
plan,
there
was
on
the
original
plan,.
There
was
no
dimension
on
the
alley
side,
no
dimension
on
the
alley
side,
where
the
addition
was,,
and
we,
where
the
addition
was,
and
we
had
some
concerns-
that
there
had
some
concerns-
that
there
might
be
the
need
for
a
might
be
the
need
for
a
variance.
variance.
after
further
review,,
there
is
after
further
review,.
There
is
no
need
for
a
variance.,
no
need
for
a
variance..
This
whole
project
is
moving.
D
D
Agent
to
break
up
that
massing,
facade.
facade.,
it
would
not
meet
our
criteria.
It
would
not
meet
our
criteria
because
the
massing
would
not
be
because
the
massing
would
not
be
broken
up
in
a
pattern.
That's
broken
up
in
a
pattern.
That's
consistent
with
our
criteria,,
so
consistent
with
our
criteria,.
So
with
him
pulling
and
pushing
with
him
pulling
and
pushing
breaks
down
that
massing
and
breaks
down
that
massing
and
staff
feels
that
this
is.
D
Consistent
as
presented.,
it
was
a
complicated
request
and
it
was
a
complicated
request
and
the
additional
drawings
aid
in
the
additional
drawings
aid
in
the
presentation.
And
so
you
can
the
presentation,
and
so
you
can
understand
exactly
what
he's
understand
exactly
what
he's
requesting
this
evening.
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D
D
D
D
On
the
interior
side,,
his
initial
request
--
and
I
don't
initial
request-
--
and
I
don't
know
if
he
went
through
it
or
know
if
he
went
through
it
or
not.
--
showed
sliders.,
not
--
showed
sliders..
Sliders
are
not
an
appropriate
sliders
are
not
an
appropriate
selection.
selection..
I
don't
know.
If
he's
made
the
I
don't
know.
If
he's
made
the
modification.
modification.,
I
think
he
noted
it,
but
that
I
think
he
noted
it,
but
that
needs
to
be
changed
on
the
needs
to
be
changed
on
the
plans.
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D
B
B
E
E
G
E
E
E
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E
I
mean,
they
extent
a
lot
of
money
on
that
alley.
money
on
that
alley.
stephen
sutton:,
am
I
to
stephen
sutton:.
Am
I
to
understand
that
you
will
be
understand
that
you
will
be
salvaging
a
lot
of
this
existing
salvaging
a
lot
of
this
existing
chip,
brick
for
other
locations,
chip,
brick
for
other
locations
on
the
site?
on
the
site?
that
sounds
wonderful,
yes.
G
E
E
G
H
H
G
H
H
G
G
G
H
Of
an
interesting
projection,
personally.
personally.
amber
dickerson:
okay.,
amber
dickerson:
okay.
and
then,
while
we
are
actually
and
then
while
we
are
actually,
this
is
another
elevation
that
I
this
is
another
elevation
that
I
had
some
questions.
About.
had
some
questions.
About.
I
may
have
missed
it..
A
H
H
H
H
G
G
G
G
B
G
Yes,,
that's
possible,
getting
that
to
stack,
there's,
not
a
that
to
stack,
there's,
not
a
good
stop.
good
stop..
There's
stairs
coming
down
so
there's
stairs
coming
down
so
stacking
there
is
in
the
way.
stacking
there
is
in
the
way.
stacking.
There
is
kind
of
stacking.
There
is
kind
of
dangerous.
dangerous..
Maybe
stacking
here
would
be.
G
H
More
expensive
than
a
sliding
door
that
ends
up
in
the
same
door
that
ends
up
in
the
same
plain.
plain.
zachary
greco:,
okay.,
zachary
greco:
okay.,
amber
dickerso:
to
your
amber
dickerso:
to
your
accessory
structure,.
Is
there
a
accessory
structure,?
Is
there
a
reason
other
than
privacy,
to
not
reason
other
than
privacy
to
not
have
windows
that
face
the.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Our
backyard,,
which
is
--
I
have
highlighted
those
areas.,
highlighted
those
areas..
We
have
got
a
pair
of
windows,
we
have
got
a
pair
of
windows,
here,
window
here,
pair
of
here,
window
here,
pair
of
windows,
here.
windows,
here.
the
only
place
we
don't
have.
The
only
place
we
don't
have
windows
is
here..
H
H
H
A
G
C
C
C
I
understand
that
the
height
restriction,,
but
there
are
other
restriction,,
but
there
are
other
ways
to
meet
the
height
ways
to
meet
the
height
restriction,
potentially
without
restriction,
potentially
without
row,
indicating
the
second
story
row
indicating
the
second
story,
90°,
so
that
you
have
a
gable
on
90°
so
that
you
have
a
gable
on
the
bottom
and
a
cable
on
the
the
bottom
and
a
cable
on
the
top
and
90°
relationship
to
each
top
and
90°
relationship
to
each
other.
other..
G
C
C
C
G
C
C
C
Four
feet
at
the
second
story,
but
not
the
four
story.,
but
not
the
four
story..
I
would
assume
then
in
all
the
I
would
assume,
then
in
all
the
iterations
you
did
look
at
any
iterations.
You
did
look
at
any
iteration
that
retained
that
iteration.
That
retained
that
gable,
end
side,
trim,
condition
gable.
End
side
trim
condition
all
the
way
to
the
ground..
C
C
C
C
G
G
G
B
Maybe
a
tall
tree
there
or
something.
something.
susan
klaussmith:,
susan
klaussmith:,
that's
it
for
my
comments
and
that's
it
for
my
comments
and
questions
right,
now.,
questions
right,
now.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
zachary
greco:.
I
also
have
a
zachary
greco:.
I
also
have
a
couple
questions
for
you.
B
B
G
B
G
That's
--:
that's
man,
cave,,
it's
football,!
It's
baseball.,
football,!
It's
baseball.!
I
guess
it's
a
private
space,
for
I
guess
it's
a
private
space
for
tv,
viewing.,
tv
viewing.,
so
someone
walking
by
the
alley
so
someone
walking
by
the
alley
and
having
a
shot
in
is
really
and
having
a
shot
in
is
really
not
what
they
were.
After.,
not
what
they
were.
After.
zachary
greco:
okay.
G
Of
that
space.,
and
even
that
--
even
this
step
and
even
that
--
even
this
step
is
difficult
in
the
room.
But
we
is
difficult
in
the
room,
but
we
felt
like
it
was
helpful
in
the
felt
like
it
was
helpful
in
the
transition
to
kind
of
open
this
transition
to
kind
of
open
this
up
versus
completing
that
up
versus
completing
that
corner.
corner..
And
it's
where
it
changes
from
a.
B
B
G
B
B
B
B
B
B
That's
right
behind
this
one.
sorry.
sorry.
yes.
yes.,
this
one.,
this
one.,
the
northeast.,
the
northeast.
you'll
notice
on
the
left
side,
you'll
notice
on
the
left
side
by
where
those
either
sliding
by
where
those
either
sliding
doors,
that
portion
of
the
doors,
that
portion
of
the
little
wall,,
the
man
cave
area,.
B
G
B
B
B
B
G
G
G
B
In
this
area.
zachary
greco:,
my
biggest
zachary
greco:,
my
biggest
question
is,
it
appears
it
question:
is
it
appears
it
doesn't
wrap
around
the
entire
doesn't
wrap
around
the
entire
house.
house.
right.
right.
zachary
greco:?
Is
that
zachary
greco:?
Is
that
intentional
for
reason
or
what
intentional
for
reason
or
what
is
the
intention
and
in
some.
G
B
B
G
B
G
B
B
G
G
B
B
B
G
B
E
E
G
G
B
G
G
G
G
G
G
Match
what's
existing
upstairs,
so
the
bearing
height
is
the
so
the
bearing
height
is
the
same.
same..
Here
we
have
the
brick
on
here.
We
have
the
brick
on
concrete,
slab.,
concrete
slab..
There
is
the
--.
That's
really
there
is
the
--.
That's
really
the
side
elevation
completely
of
the
side,
elevation
completely
of
that
recess
and
the
stair.
G
G
G
G
B
B
B
G
G
This
is
a
2,000
square,
foot
addition,,
but
the
change
in
the
addition,,
but
the
change
in
the
pervious
surface.
With
this
pervious
surface
with
this
scheme
versus
the
original
is
scheme
versus
the
original,
is
the
7%.,
the
7%.,
the
difference
of
769
square,
the
difference
of
769
square
feet,
and
in
the
grand
scheme
of
feet,
and
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things,,
we
achieve
a
lot
of.
G
B
E
E
E
I
believe
that
upper
level
gable-
that's
facing
you-
has
a
certain
that's
facing
you
has
a
certain
book,
end
quality
to
it
with
book
end
quality
to
it
with
respect
to
the
gable.
That's
respect
to
the
gable,
that's
facing
the
alleyway
from
the
facing
the
alleyway
from
the
main
original
building.
main
original
building..
I
like
the
way
it
kind
of
I
like
the
way
it
kind
of
balances
out
the
whole
balances
out
the
whole
composition
on
the
scheme
of
composition
on
the
scheme
of
things.
As
you
work
down
the.
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
E
Patterns
and
the
rest
of
it
be
more
mosaic,,
you
know,,
concrete,
more
mosaic,,
you
know,
concrete,
or
a
detailed,
concrete
or
or
a
detailed,
concrete
or
stamped
concrete,
or
any
one
of
a
stamped
concrete
or
any
one
of
a
number
of
different
things.
number
of
different
things..
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a.
E
Scheme
of
pavement
detail
that
ties
this
ground
plane
all
ties
this
ground
plane
all
together,
so
that,
yes,.
This
is
a
together,
so
that,
yes,.
This
is
a
new
addition,
but
it
new
addition,
but
it
has
--
continues
even
on
that
has
--
continues,
even
on
that
level
of
being
respectful
to
level
of
being
respectful
to
what's
there
in
the
first
place.
H
I'm
done
for
the
moment.,
so
I'm
not
comfortable
with
so
I'm
not
comfortable
with
leaving
the
sliders
on
the
left,
leaving
the
sliders
on
the
left
elevation
without
making
that
elevation
without
making
that
some
sort
of
condition
for
staff,
some
sort
of
condition
for
staff
to
review,.
But
I
believe
I'm
to
review,,
but
I
believe
I'm
confident
staff
can
handle
that.,
confident
staff
can
handle
that.
for
the
head
height
of
the
front.
H
For
the
head
height
of
the
front
elevation
window,
that
does
elevation
window,.
That
does
bother
me
because
it's
not
bother
me
because
it's
not
symmetrical.
symmetrical.,
if
possible,
if
that
could
move
if
possible,
if
that
could
move
down,
depending
on
what
my
fellow
down,
depending
on
what
my
fellow
board
members
think
about
that.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
So
I'd
be
okay.
If
we
made
some
sort
of
landscaping,
requirement.
sort
of
landscaping
requirement.,
I
know
landscaping
can
go
away.
I
know
landscaping
can
go
away
with
time,,
so
I
would
like
to
with
time,.
So
I
would
like
to
discuss
that
and
want
your
discuss
that
and
want
your
opinions
on
that
as
well.
A
A
A
A
A
C
C
C
C
About
more
historic
references.,
because
this
is
directly
off
an
because
this
is
directly
off
an
alleyway
rather
than
a
side
alleyway,
rather
than
a
side
street
or
a
front
street,
I
street,
or
a
front
street,.
I
think
there
is
some
variations
think
there
is
some
variations
that
you'll
find
in
the
district
that
you'll
find
in
the
district.
That
can
give
you
cues
as
to
how.
C
From
the
alley
itself
that
I
question
that
recommendation.
question
that
recommendation.
otherwise
I
feel
that
the
fact
otherwise.
I
feel
that
the
fact
that
you
are
pulling
back
on
the
that
you
are
pulling
back
on
the
amount
of
brick
pavers
between
amount
of
brick
pavers
between
that
side.
Entry
to
the
second
that
side,
entry
to
the
second
accessory
structure
at
the
rear,
accessory
structure
at
the
rear
of
the
lot
is
really
a
much.
C
C
C
So
site
wise,,
I
think
it's
going
in
the
right
direction.
in
the
right
direction.
in
terms
of
the
architecture,
in
terms
of
the
architecture,.
There
are
certain
things
we
have.
There
are
certain
things
we
have
to
look
for.
to
look
for.,
we
have
to
get
massing
and
we
have
to
get
massing
and
building
form.
building
form..
I
do
think
there
are
certain.
C
C
C
C
Of
that
gable,
end
isn't
true
to
its
existing
condition
and
not
its
existing
condition
and
not
even
its
historic
condition,,
even
its
historic
condition,,
right?
right?,
so
the
loss
of
that
gable
end.
So
the
loss
of
that
gable.
End
feature
to
me
is
a
big
deal
and
feature
to
me
is
a
big
deal
and
we're
talking
about
historic.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
Not
a
side
street,,
the
alleys
in
hyde
park
tend
to
be
very
hyde.
Park
tend
to
be
very
active.
active.,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
things
I,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
things.
I
love
about
the
project.
love
about
the
project..
I
think
the
fact
that
you
are,
I
think,
the
fact
that
you
are
trying
to
make
the
experience
trying
to
make
the
experience
not
only
with
the
pavers
but
the
not
only
with
the
pavers,
but
the
idea
of
landscape
and
how
you.
C
Do
think
the
idea
of
rhythm
of
windows
to
solve
the
void
windows
to
solve
the
void
experience
that
we
have
experience
that
we
have
architectually
is
important
and
architectually
is
important,
and
I
understand
your
reasoning
for
I
understand
your
reasoning
for
a
man
cave.,
a
man
cave..
There
is
so
many
different
ways.
C
C
C
C
I
think
your
agent
here
tonight
said
the
same
thing.
said
the
same
thing..
He
realized,
maybe
that
needed
to
he
realized,
maybe
that
needed
to
be
reviewed.
be
reviewed..
There
was
another
window
that
I
there
was
another
window
that
I
forgot
to
bring
up,,
but
on
that
forgot
to
bring
up,,
but
on
that
same
elevation
in
the
addition
same
elevation
in
the
addition
at
the
second
floor,,
there
is
a
at
the
second
floor,.
There
is
a
window
that
seems
to
be
a
little.
C
odd
in
its
proportioning..
It
seems
a
little
long
in
it
seems
a
little
long
in
regards
to
the
rest
of
the
regards
to
the
rest
of
the
windows
throughout
the
rest
of
windows
throughout
the
rest
of
the
projects.,
the
projects..
That
would
be
another
one
that
that
would
be
another
one,
that
I'd
ask
them
to
review..
C
C
C
C
C
C
to
the
project.
as
to
views
to
which
neighbor's
as
to
views
to
which
neighbor's
yard,.
I
think
the
views
to
the
yard,.
I
think
the
views
to
the
alley
are
more
appreciative
to
alley,
are
more
appreciative
to
the
idea
that
we
have
neighbors
the
idea
that
we
have
neighbors
and
we
want
to
be
kind
to
our
and
we
want
to
be
kind
to
our
neighbors.
neighbors..
I
don't
think
they
need
to
add.
C
I
agree
that
they've
made
more
than
enough
accommodations
for
than
enough
accommodations
for
light
in
and
traditionally
in
a
light
in
and
traditionally
in
a
gable
end,
you'll
see
the
window
gable.
End,
you'll
see
the
window
placement
at
the
gable
end,
not
placement
at
the
gable
end,
not
on
the
side,
walls
for
the
most
on
the
side,
walls
for
the
most
part.
part..
I
agree
with
that
move..
C
B
B
Have
been
stated,
my
biggest
concern,
and
I
think
it's
been
concern,
and
I
think
it's
been
stated
is
the
bump
out
for
the
stated
is
the
bump
out
for
the
stair.
stair.,
similar
to
what
you're
stating,
similar
to
what
you're
stating,.
I'm
not
seeing
anything
that
was,
I'm
not
seeing
anything
that
was
presented
today
to
show
that's
a
presented
today
to
show
that's
a
condition
within
the
historic.
B
Condition
within
the
historic
district
near
the
house
to
district
near
the
house
to
match.
match.
it
also,
from
the
front
it
also,
from
the
front
elev
elev
elevation,.
If
you
look
at
where
elevation,,
if
you
look
at
where
the
pitch
sits
as
it
gets
pulled,
the
pitch
sits
as
it
gets
pulled.
Out,
the
roof
gets
a
little
out,,
the
roof
gets
a
little
higher
and
you
can
start
to
see
higher
and
you
can
start
to
see
the
top
of
the
roof
from
the
the
top
of
the
roof
from
the
front
of
the
house.
B
B
B
H
So
to
not
have
that
accessible
tonight,!
I
have
concerns
tonight,.
I
have
concerns
over
--
the
sliding
doors
and
over
--
the
sliding
doors
and
little
stuff,
yeah,.
We
can
leave
little
stuff,
yeah,.
We
can
leave
to
staff.
to
staff.
I'd
say
with
the
list
that
we
I'd
say
with
the
list
that
we
have
right
now,,
it's
a
bit
much.
E
E
E
E
E
E
F
F
D
(Off
microphone),
so
after
discussion
with
the
owner
and
discussion
with
the
owner
and
agent,
they're
feeling
the
time
agent,
they're
feeling
the
time
constraints
are
too
tight
to
constraints
are
too
tight
to
move
to
the
february
3
public
move
to
the
february
3
public
hearing
cycle.
hearing
cycle..
So
if
the
board
can
coin
it
to.
D
So
if
the
board
can
coin
it
to
the
march
2,
2020,
public,
the
march
2,
2020,
public
hearing
at
6:00.
hearing
at
6:00.
as
you
craft,
your
motion,,
if
you
as
you
craft,
your
motion,,
if
you
can
be
concise
with
some,
can
be
concise,
with
some
recommendations
and
directions.
recommendations
and
directions..
I
know
he
heard
the
discussion.
F
B
The
applicant
is
open
to
the
continuance,
if
they
can
confirm
continuance,
if
they
can
confirm
that
on
the
record.
that
on
the
record.
I'd
appreciate,
it.,
I'd
appreciate,
it.
zachary
greco:
just
want
to
zachary
greco:
just
want
to
confirm
for
the
record.
The
confirm
for
the
record,
the
applicant
and
owner
are
applicant
and
owner
are
acceptable
with
the
continuation
acceptable,
with
the
continuation
for
the
case
to
the
march
2
for
the
case
to
the
march
2
public
hearing,
correct?.
H
H
H
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Would
have
exposed
raftor
tails.,
you
would
be
able
to
see
that
you
would
be
able
to
see
that
and
I'll
show
you
photos
of
and
I'll
show
you
photos
of
that.
that.,
simple,
finished,
(inaudible).,
simple,
finished
(inaudible)..
It
just
has
the
front
area
that
it
just
has
the
front
area
that
will
be
a
workshop/home
office
will
be
a
workshop/home
office
area
and
just
has
a
set
of
area
and
just
has
a
set
of
french
doors,
single
light.
I
I
I
I
I
None
of
them
have
any
windows.
they're,
just
straight
forward:
they're,
just
straight
forward
doors
like
this.
doors
like
this.,
french
doors,.
We
have
been
french
doors,.
We
have
been
moving
away
from
real
wood,
moving
away
from
real
wood,
french
doors.,
french
doors..
We
have
found
some
fiberglass.
I
We
have
found
some
fiberglass
doors.
doors..
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
that.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
that
well
enough,
and
I
apologize
well
enough
and
I
apologize
because
it
still
has
tape
around
because
it
still
has
tape
around
the
edge,.
But
it
has
all
the
the
edge,,
but
it
has
all
the
same.
Details.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
D
D
D
We
work
with
the
other
entities
within
the
city
to
make
sure
within
the
city
to
make
sure
that
the
project-
that's
that
the
project
that's
presented
to
you,
can
go
through
presented
to
you-
can
go
through
this
process
and
then
be
this
process
and
then
be
submitted
to
permitting
and
submitted
to
permitting
and
receive
approval
through
receive
approval
through
permitting
without
too
much
permitting
without
too
much
bounce
back
and
forth.
bounce
back
and
forth..
So
we
were
looking
at
the.
D
D
D
D
D
D
B
That
concludes
my
portion
of
the
presentation.
presentation.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point.
We'll
open
the
at
this
point,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
public
public
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
comment.,
seeing
none,
the
commissioners
seeing
none,.
The
commissioners
will
then
ask
questions
starting.
H
I
H
C
C
I
I
C
C
So
the
comment
by
transportation
about
---
and
this
might
be
about
---
and
this
might
be
something
that
staff
answered,
something
that
staff
answered
with
the
statement
that
they
with
the
statement
that
they
added
about
the
flare
at
the
added
about
the
flare
at
the
apron,.
There
is
no
intent
to
apron,.
There
is
no
intent
to
replace
the
driveway,
correct?.
C
C
D
To
make
in
a
project
when
you're
not
doing
any
work.
not
doing
any
work.
ron
vila:,
although
this
is
not
ron
vila:,
although
this
is
not
part
of
the
request,
they're,
not
part
of
the
request,
they're,
not
altering
anything
here,
altering
anything
here,
transportation,
instills
their
transportation,
instills
their
views
on
the
project
and
they
views
on
the
project,
and
they
just
wanted
to
put
that
on.
D
Made,
that
the
dimensions
they'd
be
looking
for.
be
looking
for.
susan
klaussmith:
okay.
susan
klaussmith:
okay.
ron
vila:.
I
also
wanted
to
put
ron
vila:.
I
also
wanted
to
put
on
the
record,
in
our
historic
on
the
record,
in
our
historic
districts,.
We
have
four
historic
districts,.
We
have
four
historic
districts.,
districts.
hyde,
park,,
seminole,
heights,,
hyde,
park,,
seminole,
heights,,
tampa
heights
and
ybor
city.
D
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
I
H
I
A
I
If
you
flip
it
around,,
would
you
move
these
french
doors??
You
move
these
french
doors?
if
you
flip
the
rear
elevation,
if
you
flip
the
rear
elevation
to
the
front?
to
the
front?,
that's
something
I'd
like
to
that's
something.
I'd
like
to
talk
to
the
client.
talk
to
the
client..
I
believe
they
should
probably.
B
B
B
C
I
C
B
It's
on
the
main
house.
susan
klaussmith:,
I'm
sorry.,
susan
klaussmith:,
I'm
sorry..
I
think
that's
it
for
me..
I
think
that's
it
for
me.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
zachary,
greco:,
okay.,
zachary,
greco:
okay.,
any
additional
questions?,
any
additional
questions?
okay.
okay..
The
applicant
is
allowed
five.
B
C
B
F
Comment
from
traffic,
the
department
regarding
the
--
department
regarding
the
--
mr.
chairman,,
if
I
may
mr.
chairman,,
if
I
may
address
that.
address
that.
any
time
the
commission
is
any
time
the
commission
is
adding
conditions
to
an
adding
conditions
to
an
approval,.
There
has
to
be
a
approval,.
There
has
to
be
a
nexus
or
relationship
between
nexus
or
relationship
between
the
condition
and
what
is
being
the
condition
and
what
is
being
proposed
for
approval.
F
C
C
F
Project
relevant
to
that
notation.
notation.,
so
florida
statutes
codified,
so
florida
statutes
codified.
That
issue
and
does
require
that
that
issue
and
does
require
that
any
time
there
is
an
application
any
time
there
is
an
application
before
local
government
for
before
local
government
for
approval
and
the
commission
or
approval,
and
the
commission
or
council,
as
the
case
may
be,
is
council,
as
the
case
may
be,
is
inclined
to
impose
conditions,
inclined
to
impose
conditions,.
You
have
to
establish
that
you
have
to
establish
that
nexus.
nexus..
So
I
understand
this
may
be
a
so.
F
C
C
H
H
B
D
D
Last
case
is
arc-20-66
for
the
address
of
5106
north
branch
address
of
5106
north
branch
avenue.
avenue..
This
is
also
in
the
seminole.
This
is
also
in
the
seminole
heights.
Historic
district.
heights,
historic
district..
The
primary
structure
is
a
the
primary
structure
is
a
contributing
structure
that
contributing
structure
that
dates
back
to
1915.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
I
I
I
I
Drive
in
off
of
in
order
to
park
in
the
garage
easily.
in
the
garage
easily.
we're
proposing
keeping
it
16
we're
proposing,
keeping
it
16
feet
off
the
back
property
line,
feet
off
the
back
property,
line,
5
feet
off
the
side,
property
5
feet
off
the
side,
property
line.
line..
It
ends
up,
not
exactly
lining
up.
I
I
It's
a
minimal
amount
of
extra
concrete.,
concrete.,
simple
garage.,
simple
garage.,
we're
planning
on
doing
10,
foot
we're
planning
on
doing
10,
foot
walls,
so
it's
taller
than
a
walls,
so
it's
taller
than
a
normal
garage.
But
when
you
look
normal
garage,
but
when
you
look
at
the
house
itself,,
it
also
has
at
the
house
itself,.
It
also
has
that
same
pretty
large
gap
above
that
same
pretty
large
gap
above
the
openings
to
where
the
roof.
I
I
I
I
I
I
planning
on
replicating
that.
accessory
structures
are
usually
accessory.
Structures
are
usually
a
stepped
down
version
from
the
a
stepped
down
version
from
the
main
house
and
areas
like
this.,
main
house
and
areas
like
this.,
overhead
garage,
door,,
nine
foot,
overhead
garage,
door,,
nine
foot,
wide.,
wide.
I'll,
show
you
examples
of
the
I'll
show
you
examples
of
the
standard
garage
doors
we
use,
standard
garage
doors,
we
use,
and
then
just
a
simple
batten
and
then
just
a
simple
batten
door
on
the
side.
door.
On
the
side.
same
detail
as
what
I
showed
you.
I
I
I
Happens
to
be
skinny,
lapsiding,
instead.
instead.
and
the
garage
doors
we
and
the
garage
doors.
We
typically
use,
this
one,
a
lot
of
typically
use,
this
one.
A
lot
of
people
are
familiar
with
because
people
are
familiar
with
because
it's
very
prominent
in
the
it's
very
prominent
in
the
street.
street..
It's
a
chi
overhead
door..
I
I
I
I
Is
what
I
keep
drawing
on
all
my
drawings
and
he
hasn't
said
he
drawings
and
he
hasn't
said
he
doesn't
like
it,,
so
I'd
suggest
doesn't
like
it,.
So
I'd
suggest
something
along
those
lines.,
something
along
those
lines.,
a
kind
of
barn,
light
flanking,
a
kind
of
barn,
light
flanking
the
side
of
the
garage
door
as
the
side
of
the
garage
door
as
the
lighting.
D
D
D
D
D
D
The
outer
elevation
is
close
to
fencing
and
then
you
have
the
fencing
and
then
you
have
the
alley
and
the
rear.
alley
and
the
rear..
So
if
the
board
wants
to
discuss
so
if
the
board
wants
to
discuss
the
placement
of
a
window
--,
but
the
placement
of
a
window
--.
But
this
is
more
of
a
structure
with
this-
is
more
of
a
structure
with
substance
and
I
think
breaking
substance
and
I
think
breaking
up
the
massing
would
be.
B
B
B
C
C
Intended
to
be
a
working
garage,,
correct?
correct?,
I'm
sorry?,
I'm
sorry?,
susan
klaussmith:,
the
car
goes
susan
klaussmith:.
The
car
goes
in
and
out?
in
and
out?.
Can
you
talk
about?
Why
the
doors?
Can
you
talk
about?
Why
the
doors
don't
go
to
the
ground
for
the
don't
go
to
the
ground
for
the
garage
doors,
themselves?
garage
doors
themselves?,
they
seem
to
stop
at
the.
C
I
C
I
C
C
C
I
C
I
just
need
to
look
at
the
wall
sec,
sec,
setion.
setion..
I
apologize..
I
apologize..
I
thought
you
were
doing
a
curb.
I
thought
you
were
doing
a
curb
and
the
slab
was
lower.
and
the
slab
was
lower..
I
apologize.
I
apologize.
so
in
terms
of
the
driveway,,
so
in
terms
of
the
driveway,
that
follows
up
to
my
site
that
follows
up
to
my
site
question
in
terms
of
the
question
in
terms
of
the
driveway.
driveway..
If
we
can
go
back
to
the
right.
I
I
I
C
I
C
I
I
I
C
C
C
D
C
A
I
I
A
The
hope
is,
it
will
go
away.,
it's
useful
right,
now.,
it's
useful
right,
now.,
okay.,
okay.
and
that
existing
structure
and
that
existing
structure-
that's
there
now
is
going
to
be
that's.
There
now
is
going
to
be
gone.
gone..
That's
where
you're
building
the
that's,
where
you're
building
the
new
garage.
new
garage.
yes.,
yes.
okay.
B
A
H
I
I
I
B
They'll
put
in
a
window,,
but
it's
their
preference,
not
to
it's
their
preference
not
to
have
one.,
have
one.
ashley
de
cubas:,
okay.
ashley
de
cubas:
okay.
I'll
see
what
other
board
I'll
see.
What
other
board
members
say.
members
say.
zachary
greco:.
I
have
a
zachary
greco:.
I
have
a
question
for
legal
or
council..
F
B
B
I
understand
that
the
brackets
on
the
back
side
were
left
off
on
the
back
side
were
left
off
because
you
wouldn't
see
them
because
you
wouldn't
see
them
from
the
road.
from
the
road..
Is
there
any
discussions
or
is
there
any
discussions
or
conversations
with
having
those
conversations
with
having
those
put
on
the
back?
B
I
B
E
E
I
personally
would
like
to
see
brackets
on
the
back
side
of
brackets
on
the
back
side
of
this
building
that
faces
the
this
building
that
faces
the
alley.
alley.
to
me,
although
there
is
no
to
me,
although
there
is
no
access
from
the
alley,,
the
alley,
access
from
the
alley,,
the
alley
is
a
public
way
in.
This
is
a
public
way
in
this
neighborhood
and
it's
used
and.
E
Neighborhood
and
it's
used,
and
just
as
much
as
it
becomes
a
just
as
much
as
it
becomes
a
visual
element
on
the
back
side,
visual
element
on
the
back
side
of
the
existing
dwelling,,
I
of
the
existing
dwelling,.
I
think
it
would
be
well
to
have
think
it
would
be
well
to
have
that
same
level
of
coordination
that
same
level
of
coordination
at
the
visual
side.
For
this
at
the
visual
side
for
this
accessory
structure.
E
H
C
C
C
Had
fences
to
the
rear.,
it
seems
that
this
is
a.
It
seems
that
this
is
a
retaining
wall
that
was
being
retaining
wall
that
was
being
discussed.
Earlier.
discussed
earlier.
from
the
imagery
we
have
in
our
from
the
imagery
we
have
in
our
packet
that
staff
presented
packet,
that
staff
presented
tonight,.
It
appears
there
is
a
tonight,.
It
appears
there
is
a
wood
fence
that
is
approximately
wood
fence.
That
is
approximately
six
feet.
Tall,
and
the
house.
C
Six
feet
tall,
and
the
house
does
achieve
great
height
beyond,
does
achieve
great
height
beyond
that.
that.,
with
the
intention
on
this
with
the
intention
on
this
particular
accessory
structure,
particular
accessory
structure
to
be
quite
a
bit
taller
than
is
to
be
quite
a
bit
taller
than
is
what
would
be
historically,
what
would
be
historically
precedent
for
most
historic
precedent
for
most
historic
accessory
structures,,
even.
C
Accessory
structures,
even
garages,,
I
think
it's
important
garages,.
I
think
it's
important
to
think
about
your
engagement
to
think
about
your
engagement
with
the
alley
and
communities
with
the
alley
and
communities
such
as
seminole
heights,
where
such
as
seminole
heights,
where
alleyways
are
really
celebrated,
alleyways,
are
really
celebrated
and
more
activated
in
keeping
and
more
activated
in
keeping
with
the
historic
nature
of
with
the
historic
nature
of
these
types
of
developments..
C
These
types
of
developments.,
we
must
be
reminde
of
the.
We
must
be
reminde
of
the
experience
of
being
in
the
experience
of
being
in
the
alleyways.
alleyways.
they're,
not
just
for
servicing
they're,
not
just
for
servicing
anymore.
anymore.
they're,
often
used
for
strolling
they're,
often
used
for
strolling
through
your
neighborhood,,
through
your
neighborhood,,
connecting
with
your
neighbors,,
connecting
with
your
neighbors,
that
kind
of
thing.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
B
C
I
think
I'm
going
to
allow
my
fellow
commissioners
to
decide
fellow
commissioners
to
decide
if
one
needs
to
be
added
and
if
one
needs
to
be
added
and
where.
where.
susan
klaussmith:
well,
susan
klaussmith:,
well,
historically,,
you
would
want
historically,.
You
would
want
light
in
your
garages
light
in
your
garages,
because
--
you're
working
on.
C
C
A
C
H
H
B
Zachary
greco:
any
additional
comments
or
questions?
comments
or
questions?
stephen
sutton:.
No
addition
on
stephen
sutton:,
no
addition
on
my
part.,
my
part.
nothing.
nothing.,
zachary
greco:.
So
we
have
zachary
greco:.
So
we
have
the
--
working
with
staff
for
the
--
working
with
staff
for
the
extension
of
the
driveway,,
the
extension
of
the
driveway,,
the
addition
of
the
brackets,
the
addition
of
the
brackets
under
the
rear,,
the
addition
of.
B
H
H
Arc-20-66
for
the
property
locate
at
5106
north
branch
locate
at
5106
north
branch
avenue
with
the
following
avenue,
with
the
following
conditions:
that
brackets
be
conditions:.
That
brackets
be
added
to
the
rear
elevation,
added
to
the
rear.
Elevation,
that
the
applicant
coordinates
that
the
applicant
coordinates
with
staff
on
the
driveway,
with
staff
on
the
driveway
connection
into
the
garage,,
a
connection
into
the
garage,,
a
window
added
to
the
rear
and
window
added
to
the
rear
and
coordinate
with
staff
on
the
coordinate
with
staff
on
the
positioning
of
that,
and
the.