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A
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
february
3rd
public,
hearing
february
3rd
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
tampa's
for
the
city
of
tampa's.
Architectural.
Review.
Commission.-
architectural
review
commission.-
welcome,
everyone.,
welcome,
everyone.,
I'm
zachary
greco,,
chair
of
the
I'm
zachary
greco,.
Chair
of
the
commission.-
commission.-
if
you're
here
to
present
a
if
you're
here
to
present
a
project,,
you
have
limited
time
project,.
You
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation.
A
A
When
coming
to
the
microphone,,
you
will
need
to
identify,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
to
the
project..
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
the
commissioners
will
not
ask
questions
during
your
questions
during
your
presentation.
presentation..
Your
project
should
be
presented.
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order.
A
in
the
following:
order.
site:
plans,
elevations,,
site,
plans,,
elevations,,
architectural
details,
and
wall,
architectural
details,
and
wall
sections..
Sections.
staff
will
then
present.
The
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report,,
and
we
will
then
staff
report,,
and
we
will
then
ask
the
public
for
comment..
A
Ask
the
public
for
comment.
following
your
presentation,,
the
following,
your
presentation,,
the
commissioners
will
be
asking
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation..
The
presentation.,
please
state,
and
spell
your
name,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
clearly.,
if
you're
here
to
speak
either,
if
you're
here
to
speak,
either
for
or
against
a
project,,
your
for
or
against
a
project,,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
time
will
be
limited
to
three
mention,.
So
take
some
time
now,
mention,.
So
take
some
time
now.
A
A
Applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
for
rebuttal..
The
public
hearing
will
then
be.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
closed..
The
only
comments
which
will
be
the
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
allowed.
After
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
will
be
in
response.
To
is
closed,
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
commissioners.
commissioners
will
then
discuss.
A
B
A
A
B
A
E
Motion
passes,
thank
you.,
good
evening,,
commissioners.,
good
evening,,
commissioners.,
dennis
fernandez,
architectural
dennis
fernandez,,
architectural
review
and
historic
preservation,
review
and
historic
preservation.
Manager.
manager.
welcome
to
this
evening's
public.
Welcome
to
this
evening's
public
hearing.
hearing..
Just
a
couple
brief
points..
E
I
do
have
the
arc
staff
reviews
that
we
will
be
adding
into
the
that
we
will
be
adding
into
the
record
for
january,
last
month
record
for
january,
last
month.
You
also
have
those
included
in
you
also
have
those
included
in
your
packets.,
your
packets..
Those
do
become
part
of
the
those
do
become
part
of
the
record
for
tonight's
hearing.
E
E
Applicants
submit
when
they
meet
our
hearing
deadline.
our
hearing,
deadline.
we've
added
those
in
so
they
we've
added
those
in
so
they
could
be
made
part
of
the
could
be
made
part
of
the
record.
record.
and
then
also
for
variance
and
then
also
for
variance
cases,.
When
we
do
have
a
cases,
when
we
do
have
a
variance
on
the
agenda,,
the
variance
on
the
agenda,,
the
planner,
who
is
presenting
the
planner
who
is
presenting
the
case
will
be
offering
the
notice.
E
Case
will
be
offering
the
notice
documents
for
the
variance
to
documents
for
the
variance
to
you.
you.
you'll
have
to
accept
those
into
you'll
have
to
accept
those
into
the
record
as
well.
For
that
the
record
as
well
for
that
evening,
and
that's
specific
to
evening,
and
that's
specific
to
the
variance
case,
and
then
the
variance
case,
and
then
notification
documents
that
we
notification
documents
that
we
receive
from
the
staff.
E
E
C
C
Now
is
the
time
in
our
meeting
where,
if
you
have
any
conflicts
where,
if
you
have
any
conflicts
of
interest,,
those
need
to
be
of
interest,,
those
need
to
be
disclosed
on
the
record
and
it
disclosed
on
the
record,
and
it
would
be
as
it
pertains
to
any
would
be
as
it
pertains
to
any
of
the
items
that
are
scheduled
of
the
items
that
are
scheduled
for
consideration.
This
evening.
C
for
consideration.
This
evening.,
I
see
none.,
I
see
none.
and
if
you've
had
any
ex
parte
and
if
you've
had
any
ex
parte
communications,
that
would
communications,.
That
would
include
any
verbal
include
any
verbal
communications
with
anybody
with
communications
with
anybody
with
regard
to
items
on
the
agenda
or
regard
to
items
on
the
agenda
or
if
you
have
received
any
written.
E
E
F
Hearing
on
february
the
5th,
wednesday.
wednesday.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
good
evening,,
commissioners.,
good
evening,
commissioners.
ron,
lund,
staff
of
the
history
ron,
lund,
staff
of
the
history
eck
preservation.
eck
preservation..
Under
continations,.
We
have
two
under
continations,.
We
have
two
on
the
agenda.
F
on
the
agenda.,
we're
going
to
need
separate
we're
going
to
need
separate
motions
for
these.
motions
for
these..
The
first
is
arc
20-18
for
the
the
first
is
arc
20-18
for
the
address
at
2006,
west
dekle
address
at
2006,
west
dekle
avenue
and
that's
being
avenue
and
that's
being
continued
to
a
future
date
and
continued
to
a
future
date
and
as
part
of
that
continuation,.
F
A
F
A
F
F
F
F
F
Do
a
rooftop
public
hearing,
zerf
element
and
some
storage.
element
and
some
storage.
looking
to
the
presentation,
you
looking
to
the
presentation,
you
see
the
north
arrow
over
here
is
see.
The
north
arrow
over
here
is
up.
up.
the
property
at
1929
was
the
property
at
1929
was
unoccupied.
unoccupied..
They
didn't
have
a
structure,
they
didn't
have
a
structure
there.
there.
since
then,
when
it
came
forward
since
then,.
When
it
came
forward
in
2007,
there
was
a
in
2007,.
There
was
a
noncontributing
structure.
There
noncontributing
structure
there
that
was
a
post-war
building,.
F
F
F
F
reference
point..
This
is
looking
from
above,.
This
is
looking
from
above,
property
in
question
is
in
the
property
in
question.
Is
in
the
green,
box.
green
box..
Once
again
on
brevard,,
you
have
once
again
on
brevard,.
You
have
swann
on
the
top,,
you
see
swann
on
the
top,.
You
see
bayshore
boulevard,
here,,
a
bayshore
boulevard,
here,,
a
series
of
contributing
series
of
contributing
structures
that
surround
the
structures
that
surround
the
property,,
and
then
you
have
property,,
and
then
you
have
condos
to
the
east
and
those
are.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
This
is
looking
down
brevard
to
the
south.,
the
south.
you
see
bayshore
and
then
the
you
see
bayshore
and
then
the
water
behind
it.
water
behind
it.
and
then
to
conclude,.
This
is
in
and
then
to
conclude,.
This
is
in
the
other
direction.,
the
other
direction..
This
is
brevard.
Looking
back,
this
is
brevard,
looking
back
towards
swann.
G
G
G
Of
this
house
is
the
views
to
the
southeast,
bayshore,
the
southeast,,
bayshore
boulevard,
and
then
one
of
the
boulevard,
and
then
one
of
the
unique
aspects
of
this
home,
unique
aspects
of
this
home,.
Since
it
is
essentially
a
three
since
it
is
essentially
a
three
story.
Structure,
is
that
there
story
structure,
is
that
there
are
potential
for
views
to
are
potential
for
views
to
downtown
to
the
north,,
so
my
downtown
to
the
north,.
So
my
clients
purchased
this
home.
G
G
The
house
was
poorly
designed..
I
don't
think
today,.
If
we
came,
I
don't
think
today,.
If
we
came
before
the
board
to
present
this
before
the
board,
to
present
this
house
to
the
board,,
it
would
get
house
to
the
board,.
It
would
get
accepted.
accepted.,
it's
grossly
out
of
scale
for
it's
grossly
out
of
scale
for
the
neighborhood.,
the
neighborhood.
it
doesn't,
quite
honestly,,
meet
it.
Doesn't,
quite
honestly,
meet
the
criteria
for
what
I
would
the
criteria
for
what
I
would
call
mediterranean
revival.
Home,.
G
And
it
exceeds
the
surface
ratio;
nothing
about
this
home
ratio;,
nothing
about
this
home
would
be
accepted.
Today.
would
be
accepted.
Today.
we
recognize
that..
We
recognize
that.
what
we're
trying
to
do,
they've,
what
we're
trying
to
do,
they've
hired
me
to
make
some
sense
out
hired
me
to
make
some
sense
out
of
it.
of
it.
in
2017
we
started
with
some
in
2017,
we
started
with
some
major
redesign
of
floor
plans,
major
redesign
of
floor
plans,,
looking
from
first
floor,.
G
Second,
looking
from
first
floor,
second
floor,
rooftop,
terrace,
floor,,
rooftop
terrace,,
considered
ways
of
opening
up
considered
ways
of
opening
up
the
eds
windows
to
take
the
eds
windows,
to
take
advantage
of
the
views
and
advantage
of
the
views
and
address
the
street.
address
the
street..
A
lot
of
that
became
price,
a
lot
of
that
became
price
prohibitive
so
in
lieu
of
that,,
prohibitive.
So
in
lieu
of
that,.
What
we
did
is
really
focused.
G
What
we
did
is
really
focused
this
project
to
start
with
what
this
project
to
start
with,
what
makes
the
most
sense.
makes
the
most
sense.
and
they
wanted
to
capitalize
on
and
they
wanted
to.
Capitalize
on
this
unique
feature
of
this
home,
this
unique
feature
of
this
home,
which
is
the
rooftop
terrace.,
which
is
the
rooftop
terrace..
These
images
show,
supporting
these
images
show,
supporting
what
ron
had
shown
us,
you
can.
G
G
Consequently,
we've
had
a
lot
of
water
intrusion
over
the
years
water
intrusion
over
the
years,
and
so
in
the
midst
of
what,
and
so
in
the
midst
of
what
we're
proposing,
today,,
a
big
we're,
proposing
today,,
a
big
portion
of
this
is
to
remove
the
portion
of
this
is
to
remove
the
existing
surfaces
and
detail
and
existing
surfaces
and
detail
and
design
this
rooftop
deck,
so
it
design
this
rooftop
deck,
so
it
doesn't
provide
further
water,
doesn't
provide
further
water
infiltration,
issues.
infiltration
issues..
G
G
G
I
think,
that's
something
we're
proposing
to
remove
in
this
proposing
to
remove
in
this
phase,,
but
as
we'll
shed
some
phase,,
but
as
we'll
shed
some
elevations
studies
of
what
we've
elevations
studies
of
what
we've
done
down
the
road
to
hopefully
done
down
the
road
to,
hopefully
in
the
long
term
goals
to
make
in
the
long
term
goals
to
make.
This
actually
feel
like
a
this,
actually
feel
like
a
mediterranean
revival,
home,
give
mediterranean
revival
home,,
give
it
a
little
more
personality
and
it
a
little
more
personality
and
a
little
more
style.
G
So
it
feels
a
little
more
style,
so
it
feels
a
part
of
the
neighborhood.,
a
part
of
the
neighborhood..
These
are
just
some
examples
of
these
are
just
some
examples
of
kind
of
the
ceiling
issues,
we've
kind
of
the
ceiling
issues
we've
been
having,
not
only
from
just
been
having,,
not
only
from
just
an
insulation,
but
just
a
poor,
an
insulation,
but
just
a
poor
lack
of
detail,.
So
there's
a
lot
lack
of
detail,.
G
G
G
G
G
We
are
proposing
to
add
a
rear
addition,,
which
would
include
a
addition,
which
would
include
a
bathroom,
a
storage
area,
so
we
bathroom,
a
storage
area,
so
we
can
take
cushions
and
furniture
can
take
cushions
and
furniture
off
the
deck
in
summer,
storms,
off
the
deck
in
summer.
Storms,
put
it
in
a
secure
area
in
a
put
it
in
a
secure
area
in
a
small,
grill
area,,
and
then
we're
small
grill
area,,
and
then
we're
also
proposing
about
a
484.
G
Square
foot
public
hearing
pergn
the
rooftop
to
provide
shade
and
the
rooftop
to
provide
shade
and
cover
in
inclement
weather.
cover
in
inclement
weather..
This
is
an
aerial
perspective
of
this
is
an
aerial
perspective
of
the
intent
of
our
design.,
the
intent
of
our
design..
You
can
see
the
portion
in
white.
G
You
can
see.
The
portion
in
white
is
the
flat
roof
portion.
We're
is
the
flat
roof
portion,
we're
proposing.
proposing.,
one
of
the
other
things
to
note,,
one
of
the
other
things
to
note,
in
the
original
application,.
We
in
the
original
application,
we
had
proposed
to
continue.
The
hip
had
proposed
to
continue
the
hip
roof
around
to
the
rear,
portion,
roof
around
to
the
rear
portion,.
But
this
home
was
built
above.
G
But
this
home
was
built
above
the
maximal
allowable
building
the
maximal
allowable
building
height,,
so
the
top
of
the
peaked
height,.
So
the
top
of
the
peaked
roof
is
about
30
--
close
to
38
roof
is
about
30
--
close
to
38
feet.
feet..
We
need
to
be
at
35
feet
or
we
need
to
be
at
35
feet
or
below.
below..
G
would
have
triggered
a
variance..
We
went
down
that
past
and
we
we
went
down
that
past
and
we
decided,
because
of
scale,
decided,
because
of
scale,
simplicity
and
many
other
simplicity
and
many
other
things,,
that
it
was
better
to
things,
that
it
was
better
to
come
before
you
without
any
come
before
you
without
any
variance
requests.
variance
requests..
So,
that's
why
there
is
a
so
that's
why
there
is
a
different
roof
type
of
element,
different
roof
type
of
element,,
but
it
also
brings
the
scale,
but
it
also
brings
the
scale.
G
G
As
I
mentioned,,
we
wanted
to
open
up
a
portion
of
the
wall,
so
open
up
a
portion
of
the
wall,
so
we
can
take
--.
We
can
capitalize,
we
can
take
--.
We
can
capitalize
on
the
views
to
the
north
to
on
the
views
to
the
north
to
downtown
tampa.
downtown
tampa.,
the
portion
at
the
bottom.
Would
the
portion
at
the
bottom
would
be
to
allow
for
a
bifold
opening.
G
That's
our
proposed
floor
plan.,
basically
reorienting
the
basically
reorienting
the
interior
spaces,
but
opening
up
interior
spaces,
but
opening
up
some
windows
to
the
north,,
a
some
windows
to
the
north,,
a
bifold
door
system
and
then
the
bifold
door
system
and
then
the
covered
pergola
would
be
over
covered.
Pergola
would
be
over
this
area..
G
G
The
front
elevation
as
it
stands
today,
one
of
the
things
in
today,,
one
of
the
things
in
mediterranean
homes,,
it's
mediterranean
homes,,
it's
generally
--,
it's
not
a
generally
--.
It's
not
a
symmetrical
home,
oftentimes.
It
symmetrical
home,
oftentimes,
it
is
but
a
lot
of
times.
There's
is
but
a
lot
of
times,
there's
local
symmetry
about
the
facade.
G
local
symmetry
about
the
facade..
In
this
case,
there's
really,
in
this
case,
there's
really,
outside
of
the
tower
and
some
outside
of
the
tower,
and
some
symmetry
about
the
first
two
symmetry
about
the
first
two
levels,,
there's,
really
no
local
levels,,
there's
really
no
local
symmetry
or
anything
that
really
symmetry
or
anything.
That
really
gives
definition
to.
Why
--
the
gives
definition
to
why
--
the
means
and
methods
of
the
design
means
and
methods
of
the
design
for
the
parapet,
walls.
G
G
G
G
Then
we're
proposing
off
of
that
block
wall
to
continue
an
block
wall
to
continue
an
aluminum
structure
that
will
be
aluminum
structure.
That
will
be
the
pergola.
the
pergola..
As
I
mentioned
again,
you
can.
As
I
mentioned
again,
you
can
see.
The
top
of
the
peak
is
see.
The
top
of
the
peak
is
higher
than
the
allowable
higher
than
the
allowable
building
line.
building
line..
The
allowable
building
line
is
the
allowable
building
line.
Is
this
dashed
line.
G
G
The
left
is
sort
of
the
phase
that
we're
proposing
to
get
that
we're
proposing
to
get
certificate
of
appropriateness,
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
today.
for
today..
The
portion
to
the
right
is
the
portion
to
the
right
is
showing
how
we're
talking
about
showing
how
we're
talking
about
changing
and
modifying
the
entry,
changing
and
modifying
the
entry
element
and
make
something
that
element
and
make
something
that
fits
a
little
better
scale
and.
G
G
cleans
up
the
look
of
this
home.
again,.
That's
not
part
of
what
again,!
That's
not
part
of
what
we're
proposing
today,,
but
I
we're
proposing
today,,
but
I
wanted
to
show
--.
I
thought
it
wanted
to
show
--.
I
thought
it
was
important
to
show
that
we
was
important
to
show
that
we
are
looking
for
a
long-term
are
looking
for
a
long-term
solution
to
this
home.
G
G
G
new
ribbon
windows.
an
aluminum
clad
wood
window
to
an
aluminum,
clad
wood
window
to
match
the
existing
windows
of
match.
The
existing
windows
of
the
house.,
the
house.
views
of
the
existing
inside
of
views
of
the
existing
inside
of
the
third
floor
space
and
how
the
third
floor
space
and
how
we're
intending
to
redesign
that
we're
intending
to
redesign
that
space.
space..
And
this
is
the
existing
west.
G
G
And
the
3d
mont
model
of
how
tht
will
look.
will
look.
we've
introduced
a
small
we've
introduced
a
small
overhang
with
a
crown
detail
to
overhang
with
a
crown
detail
to
just
continue
the
stucco
look,
just
continue
the
stucco
look,
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
to
provide
a
little
bit
of
a
drip
edge,
so
it
doesn't
streak
drip
edge,
so
it
doesn't
streak
the
face
of
the
house.
G
G
G
G
G
Is
actually
an
open
system,,
but
during
a
rainstorm,
it
has
the
during
a
rainstorm,.
It
has
the
ability
to
close
upon
itself
and
ability
to
close
upon
itself
and
create
a
rooftop
--
or
a
create
a
rooftop
--
or
a
watertight
surface
that
can
watertight
surface
that
can
drain
to
a
spe.
Internal
gutter.
G
G
G
G
G
G
We're
proposing
is
a
sierra
pacific,
aluminum,
clad,
wood,
pacific,
aluminum,
clad
wood
window,
,
and
I'll
borrow
a
window.
,
and
I'll
borrow
a
sample
here,
but
this
is
actually
sample
here,
but
this
is
actually
the
same
window.
We're
proposing
the
same
window.
We're
proposing
except
this
is
all
wood,
we're
except.
This
is
all
wood,
we're.
Looking
at
aluminum,
clad
version.
G
origin
door.,
it's
a
bifold
system,.
It
would
it's
a
bifold
system,.
It
would
be
painted
to
match
the
same
as
be
painted
to
match
the
same
as
the
exterior
of
the
windows
and
the
exterior
of
the
windows
and
doors
now.
doors
now..
The
existing
home
has
like
a
the
existing
home
has
like
a
teal
color
exterior
cladding.
G
Teal
color
exterior
cladding.,
the
top
of
the
chimneys,
would
the
top
of
the
chimneys
would
have
a
clay
chimney.
Cap.
have
a
clay
chimney
cap..
This
is
the
style
we're.
This
is
the
style,
we're
proposing.,
proposing.
and
then
the
rooftop,
flat,
and
then
the
rooftop,
flat
rooftop
membrane
would
just
be
a
rooftop
membrane,
would
just
be
a
tpo
white
membrane,
system.,
tpo
white
membrane
system.,
the
aluminum
structure.
We
are.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
We've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
the
securing
and
waterproofing,
the
securing
and
waterproofing,
that
we
wanted
to
utilize.
As
that
we
wanted
to
utilize
as
much
as
of
the
existing
much
as
of
the
existing
structure
as
we
can,.
So
it
makes
structure
as
we
can,.
So
it
makes
a
lot
more
sense
to
bear
that
on
a
lot
more
sense
to
bear
that
on
the
masonry
walls
versus
the
masonry
walls
versus
stepping
it
back
and
creating
stepping
it
back
and
creating
another
beam
condition.
another
beam.
G
G
G
sit
on
the
block
wall.,
I
don't
feel
like
it
makes
a.
I
don't
feel
like.
It
makes
a
drastic
difference
as
far
as
the
drastic
difference.
As
far
as
the
look
and
style
of
the
house,,
so
look
and
style
of
the
house,,
so
we're
proposing
to
push
that
to
we're
proposing
to
push
that
to
the
exterior
wall
as
designed,
the
exterior
wall
as
designed,
and
not
set
back.
G
G
G
A
F
The
staff
report.
good
evening,
commissioners.,
good
evening,
commissioners.
ron,
vila,
staff
of
historic
ron,
vila,
staff
of
historic
preservation.,
staff's,
finding
preservation.
staff's
finding
that
this
application
is
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
consistent
with
the
hyde
park,
design,
guidelines.
design
guidelines.,
we
had
a
couple
conditions
that
we
had
a
couple
conditions
that
were
associate
with
this
request
were
associate
with
this
request
to
provide
additional
to
provide
additional
information
with
this
rooftop
information
with
this
rooftop
system
that
he
has,.
This
is
not
system
that
he
has,.
F
F
The
information,
so
we
could
go
over
that.
over
that.,
staff's
major
concern.
Was,,
we
staff's
major
concern
was,.
We
understand
the
opportunity
that
understand
the
opportunity
that
they
have
and
the
views
that
they
have
and
the
views
that
they
have
in
the
location
of
the
they
have
in
the
location
of
the
parcel,,
but
with
this
additional
parcel,,
but
with
this
additional
height,
it
adds
massing
and
height,.
It
adds
massing
and
scale
to
the
structure.
That's.
F
Scale
to
the
structure,
that's
already
out
of
place
with
the
already
out
of
place
with
the
environment:
that's
around
it,,
so
environment,
that's
around
it,!
So
we
had
asked
the
agent
and
the
we
had
asked
the
agent
and
the
owner
to
revisit
the
location
of
owner
to
revisit
the
location
of
the
rooftop
system,
to
see,
if
the
rooftop
system
to
see
if
they
could
push
it
back
from
the
they
could
push
it
back
from
the
front
facade
to
make
it
as
front
facade
to
make
it
as
minimal
as
possible,.
The
impact.
F
F
Is
that
he
provide
a
complete
wall,
section.
wall
section.
that
he
did,
he
went
through
all
that
he
did,
he
went
through
all
the
materials
from
the
top,
all
the
materials
from
the
top
all
the
way,
through
the
project.,
the
way
through
the
project.
and
having
said
that,
and
and
having
said
that,
and
putting
that
into
the
record,.
A
A
B
B
Which
appear
to
be
relatively
monolithic
in
their
appearance,
monolithic
in
their
appearance,
as
opposed
to
the
more
divided,
as
opposed
to
the
more
divided
light
window
systems
that
are
on
light
window
systems
that
are
on
the
existing
building.,
the
existing
building.?
How
do
you
square
the
two
of.
G
G
I
agree
that
they're
different.
different.
in
this
case,
and
outside
of
in
this
case,
and
outside
of
really
my
scope
of
work
at
this
really
my
scope
of
work
at
this
point,.
The
homeowners
were
point,.
The
homeowners
were
working
separately
with
a
window
working
separately
with
a
window
company
on
the
front
facade,
and.
G
Company
on
the
front
facade,
and
were
requesting
to
remove
the
were
requesting
to
remove
the
divided
light
patterns
on
the
divided
light
patterns
on
the
front.
front..
That's
something
that
they're!
That's
something
that
they're
doing
outside
of
my
scope,
so,
doing
outside
of
my
scope,
so,.
In
the
proposal
that
I
had
done,
in
the
proposal
that
I
had
done,.
Having
had
that
information,
I,
having
had
that
information,,
I
went
with
the
windows
of
what
I
went
with
the
windows
of
what
I
think
is
going
to
be
on.
G
Have
divided
lights.,
so
architecturally,
though,
I'd
so
architecturally,
though,
I'd
be
happy
to
work
with
staff
on
be
happy
to
work
with
staff
on
something
like
that
and
provide
something
like
that
and
provide
them
to
match
the
rest
of
the
them
to
match
the
rest
of
the
house.
house..
My
clients
have
asked
me
to
show
my
clients
have
asked
me
to
show
it
without
the
divided
lights.
In.
B
G
G
B
B
This-
is
directed
towards
your
pergola
structure.
pergola
structure.
yes,,
sir.,
yes,
sir.,
stephen
sutton:,
your
design,
stephen
sutton:.
Your
design
documents
at
this
point
appears
documents
at
this
point
appears
to
identify
a
structure
that
is
to
identify
a
structure
that
is
very
contemporary
in
its
nature,,
very
contemporary
in
its
nature,,
particularly
with
respect
to
the.
B
B
G
contrast
there..
I
think
that
when
we
step
back,
I
think
that
when
we
step
back
and
look
at
the
entirety
of
the
and
look
at
the
entirety
of
the
scale
of
this
house,,
it's
a
very
scale
of
this
house,.
It's
a
very
large,
flat
home,,
so
I
think
large,
flat
home,.
So
I
think
that,
having
the
contemporary
that
having
the
contemporary
element
there
does
blend
in
a
element,
there
does
blend
in
a
sense
that
it's
not
--.
It's
not
sense
that
it's
not
--.
It's
not
a
true
mediterranean
home.,
a
true
mediterranean
home..
G
It's
obviously
a
newer
construction,,
it's
not
a
construction,,
it's
not
a
period-appropriate
piece,
and
period-appropriate
piece,,
and
even
in
the
secretary
of
even
in
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
they
ask
us
interior
standards.
They
ask
us
to
provide
a
differentiation
to
provide
a
differentiation
between
new
and
old.
G
G
contemporary
home..
There
isn't
anything
similar
to
there
isn't
anything
similar
to
this
in
hyde
park.
That
has
a
this
in
hyde
park
that
has
a
rooftop
terrace,
that
has
this
rooftop
terrace,.
That
has
this
scale,
and
I
think
it
does
scale,,
and
I
think
it
does
bridge
that
sort
of
divide
bridge
that
sort
of
divide
between
historic
and
couldn't
ad.
G
Between
historic
and
couldn't
ad
contemporary.
contemporary.,
I
think,
although
it's
a
I
think,
although
it's
a
contemporary
element,,
I
think
contemporary
element,,
I
think,
from
its
separation
of
the
from
its
separation
of
the
street,,
from
the
fact
when
it's
street,
from
the
fact
when
it's
still
view
of
the
whole
mass
of
still
view
of
the
whole
mass
of
the
structure,,
I
feel
it
does.
G
C
C
C
C
G
G
G
We
are
open
to
pooling
this
in,,
but
we
explored
shifting
this,
but
we
explored
shifting
this
whole
thing
back,,
but
it
really
whole
thing
back,,
but
it
really
makes
the
connection
between
makes
the
connection
between
inside
and
outside,
not
as
inside
and
outside,
not
as
workable
as
what
we
were
hoping
workable
as
what
we
were
hoping
for.
for..
So
it
didn't
achieve
the
goals,
so
it
didn't
achieve
the
goals
that
my
clients
were
really
that
my
clients
were
really
looking
for.
looking
for.,
so
we
looked
at
pooling
this
a
so.
G
G
D
No
questions.
one
of
the
staff
report,
one
of
the
staff
report
questions
was
that
you
bring
questions
was
that
you
bring
some
references
to
pergolas,
that
some
references
to
pergolas
that
are
on
historic
mediterranean
are
on
historic,
mediterranean
structures
and
how
they
relate
structures
and
how
they
relate
to
the
form
that
you've
chosen.
D
D
G
With
the
system
we're
using,,
there
are
--,
there
are
--
like
rafter
tails.,
like
rafter
tails.,
create
scrolls
and
create
create
scrolls
and
create
more
traditional
details,,
and
we
more
traditional
details,
and
we
certainly
would
be
open
to
certainly
would
be
open
to
exploring
that.
exploring
that..
We
were
looking
to
create
a
more.
G
D
I
didn't
find
any
examples
of
anything
similar
in
the
historic
anything
similar
in
the
historic
district.
district..
I
guess
I
could
have
--.
I
didn't.
I
guess
I
could
have
--
I
didn't
bring
any
--
bring
any
--.
It
seems
like
there's
--,
I
it
seems
like
there's
--,
I
want
to
say,
like
there's,
a
law
want
to
say
like
there's
a
law
office
at
the
end
of
bayshore,
office
at
the
end
of
bayshore,
like
before
it
goes
to
downtown
like
before.
D
It
goes
to
downtown
similar
kind
of
looking
similar
kind
of
looking
building
that
has
pergolas
on
it.
Building
that
has
pergolas
on
it
that
are
smaller,
definitely,.
G
G
G
G
We
certainly
would
be
open
to
that.
that..
It's
not
a
deal-breaker
in
our
it's,
not
a
deal-breaker
in
our
case.
case.,
the
beauty
--.
Why
I
like
this,
the
beauty
--,
why
I
like
this
system
over
other
similar
system
over
other
similar
systems,,
that
there
is
a
little
systems,,
that
there
is
a
little
more
flexibility
with
the
more
flexibility
with
the
design,
and
that
we
can
--.
We.
D
Design,
and
that
we
can
--,
we
have
the
ability
to
control
some,
have
the
ability
to
control
some
of
that.
of
that.
and
I
think
--
you
would
keep
and
I
think
--
you
would
keep
the
same
system..
The
same
system.
just
modify
the
detailing
a
just,
modify
the
detailing
a
little
bit.
little
bit.
and
then
the
setback.
D
So
it
seems
like,
when
I
first
looked
at
it,,
I
liked
it
a
looked
at
it,.
I
liked
it
a
little
bit
better
with
the
one
little
bit
better
with
the
one
foot
setback,
but
I
feel
that's
foot
setback,
but
I
feel
that's
such
a
minor
setback
that
you're
such
a
minor
setback
that
you're
not
really
getting
the
benefit,
not
really
getting
the
benefit
of
setting
it
back.
G
D
G
G
Challenge
is
structure..
Currently,
there's
a
large
wood,
currently
there's
a
large
wood
beam
that
comes
across
here
that
beam
that
comes
across
here
that
supports
all
of
these
floor
supports
all
of
these
floor
joists,,
so
everything
that
we're
joists,,
so
everything
that
we're
introducing
to
that
wood
beam
introducing
to
that
wood
beam,
creates
even
more
of
a.
G
G
Money
can
cure
all
of
that.,
but
we're
trying
to
keep
--
but
we're
trying
to
keep
--
we're
trying
to
keep
one
we're
trying
to
keep
one
structural
beam
that
ties
in
structural
beam
that
ties
in
after
that,
we're
trying
not
to
after
that,
we're
trying
not
to
add
any
additional
load
to
that
add
any
additional
load
to
that
existing
beam.
existing
beam..
That
was
the
intent.
G
D
A
A
The
first
one
is,
the
bifolding
door
system,
you
have,,
do
you
door
system,
you
have,,
do
you
have
any
additional
images
or
have
any
additional
images
or
reference
materials
besides
what
reference
materials?
Besides?
What
you
showed?
you
showed?,
I
don't.,
I
don't..
That's
all
I
brought
today.,
that's
all
I
brought
today..
Is
your
intentions
for
the?
G
A
G
A
Vertical
and
horizontal
mountings,
as
we
request.
mountings,
as
we
request.
zachary,
greco:,
okay.,
zachary,
greco:,
okay.
and
then
the
second
kind
of
and
then
the
second
kind
of
topic
point
I
wanted
to
look
at,
topic
point.
I
wanted
to
look
at,
the
flat
roof
for
the
addition,
the
flat
roof
for
the
addition
that
we're
adding
for
the
closet
that
we're
adding
for
the
closet
or
storage
space
and
the
toilet,.
A
A
G
G
Underneath
the
existing
roof.
as
soon
as
we
introduce
a
as
soon
as
we
introduce
a
parapet,,
we
start
having
to
cut
parapet,.
We
start
having
to
cut
up
some
of
the
existing
up
some
of
the
existing
structure
and
remove
some
barrel
structure
and
remove
some
barrel
tiles,.
So
this
was
a
solution
tiles,.
G
G
But,
again,
coming
--
versus
doing
it
that
way,,
which
would
doing
it
that
way,,
which
would
have
introduced
another
foreign,
have
introduced
another
foreign
element,.
We
would
have
probably
element,.
We
would
have
probably
proceeded
with
the
variance
proceeded
with
the
variance
request
and
gone
ahead
and.
A
Request
and
gone
ahead
and
created
--
continued.
The
hip
created
--
continued
the
hip
roof
around
roof
around
zachary
greco:
and
then
is
zachary
greco:
and
then
is
that
trim
or
--
is
the
trim
that
trim
or
--
is
the
trim
detail
that
you're
using
on
that
detail
that
you're
using
on
that
anywhere
else
on
the
house
or
is.
G
G
G
A
A
A
You
can
stick
to
that
one..
Let
me
get
that
one..
Let
me
get
that
one.!
That's
what
we're
proposing.!
That's
what
we're
proposing.
zachary
greco:,
just
to
make
zachary
greco:
just
to
make
sure,
since
we
don't
have
sure,
since
we
don't
have
anything,
the
intentions
for
the
anything,,
the
intentions
for
the
new
railings
that
will
be
up
on
new
railings
that
will
be
up
on
the
roof,.
Is
that
to
match
the
the
roof,
is
that
to
match
the
railings
that
are
on
the.
G
Railings
that
are
on
the
balconies
on
the
second
floor?
balconies
on
the
second
floor?
yeah,.
They
--
we
have
yeah,,
they
--.
We
have
actually
--
on
our
notes.
It
actually
--
on
our
notes.
It
shows
it
as
aluminum
railing
but
shows
it
as
aluminum
railing.
But
currently,
there's
like
a
wrought
currently
there's
like
a
wrought
iron
detail
and
our
intent
is
to.
A
G
D
G
G
Exposure,
we
get
a
lot
of
wind
and
shade,,
I
guess
it
would
be
and
shade,.
I
guess
it
would
be
wind
blocking,
too,,
especially
wind,
blocking,
too,,
especially
in
the
summer,
when
we
get
big
in
the
summer
when
we
get
big
storms
through
there,,
it's
just
storms
through
there,.
It's
just
to
kind
of
help
block
some
of
to
kind
of
help
block
some
of
that.
that.
answer
the
sun
goes
lower,.
It
answer
the
sun
goes
lower,.
It
starts
to
bring
light
low
into
starts
to
bring
light
low
into
those
spaces,.
So
it's
just
an.
D
Those
spaces,,
so
it's
just
an
effort
to
kind
of
block
some
effort
to
kind
of
block
some
more
light.
Coming
into
there.
more
light
coming
into
there..
I
ask
because
I
feel
like,
I
ask
because
I
feel
like,
for
me,
personally,,
that's
one
for
me,
personally,,
that's
one
of
the
things
that
makes
it
feel
of
the
things
that
makes
it
feel
less
historically
appropriate,
less
historically,
appropriate,
is
that
extra
louver.
G
G
It's
not
as
c
cut
cut
and
dry
as
most.
most..
I
would
like
to
say,
I
feel
like
I
would
like
to
say,.
I
feel
like
we've,
over
the
years,
we've
we've,
over
the
years,
we've
gotten
a
great
relationship
gotten
a
great
relationship
working
with
staff,,
so
in
working
with
staff,,
so
in
principle,,
we'd
like
to
say
that
principle,
we'd
like
to
say
that
if
there
are
concerns,,
if
in,
if
there
are
concerns,,
if
in
general,
that
we're
happy
with
general
that
we're
happy
with
the
--,
the
board
is
happy
with
the
--.
G
C
G
C
C
A
G
G
No,,
I
think
that,
as
I
mentioned,,
we
certainly
mentioned,.
We
certainly
understand
the
mediterranean
understand
the
mediterranean
revival.
Style
in
this
case
is
a
revival.
Style
in
this
case
is
a
little
different
than
probably
a
little
different
than
probably
a
traditional
historic
home,,
and
I
traditional
historic
home,-
and
I
do
stress
that
I
think
working
do
stress
that
I
think
working
with
staff,.
We
can
mitigate
some
with
staff,.
We
can
mitigate
some
of
these
concerns.
You
may
have.
G
of
these
concerns.
You
may
have.
if
it's
a
matter
of
adding
if
it's
a
matter
of
adding
divided
lights
to
the
windows,,
divided
lights
to
the
windows,
we'd,
certainly
be
open
to
the
we'd,
certainly
be
open
to
the
proportions
of
those
windows
and
proportions
of
those
windows
and
to
addressing
some
of
those
to
addressing
some
of
those
concerns
with
staff,.
If.
A
A
D
D
Has
opportunity
to
be
more
mediterranean
looking,,
maybe
mediterranean
looking,,
maybe
without
the
vertical
face
louver
without
the
vertical
face.
Louver
screen
on
the
front,
and
I
would
screen
on
the
front-
and
I
would
prefer
it
to
have
the
whole-
prefer
it
to
have.
The
whole
system
set
back
further
from
the
system
set
back
further
from
the
front
of
the
facade.
C
However,
the
windows
are
moving
forward,,
the
--,
the
roads
are
forward,,
the
--.
The
roads
are
appropriate
for
the
house
as
it
appropriate
for
the
house
as
it
stands
today,,
so
whether
all
of
stands
today,,
so
whether
all
of
the
windows
are
changing
to
what
the
windows
are
changing
to
what
is
proposed
or
if
the
windows
is
proposed
or
if
the
windows
that
are
going
to
go
in
during
that
are
going
to
go
in
during
this
project
are
more.
C
B
B
D
B
B
Stephen
sutton:,
including
the
folding
door.
folding
door.,
for
practical
purposes,.
It's
a
for
practical
purposes,.
It's
a
big
window.,
big
window.
now,.
The
other
thing
we've
now,.
The
other
thing
we've
talked
about
is
the
pergola
talked
about.
Is
the
pergola
structure.
structure.?
I
do,
too,
also
agree
that
the
I
do,
too,
also
agree
that
the
pergola
structure
should
be
pergola.
Structure
should
be
provided
with
at
least
some.
B
B
It
just
needs
to
have
that
piece
going
with
it.
going
with
it.
and
if
done
appropriately,
I
and
if
done
appropriately,,
I
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
don't,
have
a
problem
with
the
columns
for
the
structure
being
columns
for
the
structure
being
mounted
to
the
wall
top,
if
they
mounted
to
the
wall
top,,
if
they
have
their
appropriate
bases
and.
D
B
B
B
Manufacturer,,
even
if
it
is
more
block-like
in
nature.
block-like
in
nature.,
I'm
not
looking
for
a
classical
I'm,
not
looking
for
a
classical
column
here,,
but
at
least
some
column
here,,
but
at
least
some
manner
of
detail.
That
makes
the
manner
of
detail
that
makes
the
transition
from
the
shaft
to
its.
D
Transition
from
the
shaft
to
its
base
to
the
wall
top.
base
to
the
wall,
top.
because
it
seems
like
if
the
because
it
seems
like
if
the
whole
pergola
moved
back,,
that
whole
pergola
moved
back,,
that
the
parapet
and
the
railing
the
parapet
and
the
railing
really
hides
the
base
of
that
really
hides
the
base
of
that
whole
system,.
So
you
don't
even
whole
system,.
So
you
don't
even
see
it.
see
it.
the
fact
that
it's
pushed
up.
B
B
A
E
C
D
D
B
B
A
Be
less
pronounced
on
that
elevation.
elevation.,
zachary
greco:!
For
me,
it's
not
zachary
greco:!
For
me,
it's
not
so
much
the
system
that
bothers
so
much
the
system
that
bothers
me
so
much,.
I
think,
if
you
look
me
so
much,,
I
think
if
you
look
at
the
renderings
and
some
of
at
the
renderings
and
some
of
the
elevations,
in
order
to
have
the
elevations,
in
order
to
have
the
height
under
the
pergola
to
the
height
under
the
pergola,
to
also
have
the
larger
ceiling.
A
A
yeah,.
It's
is
he
time
height.
zachary
greco:,
whereas
zachary
greco:,
whereas
typically
you'll,
see
in
most
typically
you'll,
see
in
most
historic
houses,.
If
they
do
have
historic
houses,,
if
they
do
have
any
sort
of
system,,
it's
pulled
any
sort
of
system,.
It's
pulled
further
down,
so
the
scale
is
further
down,
so
the
scale
is
lower,
so
for
me,
I
think,
lower,.
So
for
me,
I
think,
that's
the
issue
that
I'm
sort.
A
That's
the
issue
that
I'm
sort
of
having,
is,
it
looks
bigger
of
having,
is,.
It
looks
bigger
than
it
really
needs
to
be
if
it
than
it
really
needs
to
be.
If
it
was
kind
of
pulled
down,
a
little
was
kind
of
pulled
down
a
little
bit
and
set
back.
bit
and
set
back..
I
understand
this
fan
won't
be
I
understand
this
fan
won't
be
able
to
fit
under
it,,
but
then
a
able
to
fit
under
it,,
but
then
a
lot
of
that
mass.
That
you're
lot
of
that
mass.
A
B
B
D
D
A
D
It
needs
to
have
any
more
traditional
details
or
--
traditional
details
or
--
yes.
yes.,
zachary
greco:,
look,
zachary,
greco:,
look
historically
accurate?,
historically
accurate?
yes,.
They
can
work
with
staff
yes,.
They
can
work
with
staff
on
tweaking
the
edge
--,
the
on
tweaking
the
edge
--,
the
detailing
to
be
more.
A
B
D
A
D
A
D
A
D
D
A
A
A
D
B
D
D
D
D
Front
facade
two
feet
or
more;
that
the
applicant
work
with
that.
The
applicant
work
with
staff
on
the
detailing
of
the
staff
on
the
detailing
of
the
pergola
system,
to
make
it
more
pergola
system
to
make
it
more
appropriate
to
the
mediterranean
appropriate
to
the
mediterranean.
Period;
that
the
vertical
louver
period;,
that
the
vertical
louver
system
be
removed
from
the
system
be
removed
from
the
pergola
to
make
it
more
pergola.
To
make
it
more
historically
accurate;
that
the
historically
accurate;
that
the
applicant
work
with
the
staff
to.
D
Window
system
below;
is
that
everything?
everything?
zachary
greco:
yes.
zachary
greco:
yes.
becaus,
based
upon
the
becaus
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
finding
of
fact,.
The
proposed
poject
is
consistent
with
the
poject
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park,
historic
district
hyde
park,
historic
district
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of.
D
A
A
F
F
F
F
Construction
to
the
primary
structure,,
an
addition,
and
then
structure,
an
addition,
and
then
there's
variances
attached
to
there's
variances
attached
to
this
request..
This
request.
there
is
a
variance
request,
for
there
is
a
variance
request
for
the
rear
yard
setback
from
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20-foot
to
three-foot,
three
and.
F
20-Foot
to
three-foot,
three
and
a
half
feet,,
with
an
a
half
feet,,
with
an
encroachment
for
1.5
feet,
for
encroachment
for
1.5
feet
for
eaves
and
gutters,,
and
then
eaves
and
gutters,,
and
then
there's
an
existing
condition
in
there's
an
existing
condition
in
the
front
yard
that
he
wishes
to
the
front
yard
that
he
wishes
to
vest,
and
that's
indicated
on
the
vest
and
that's
indicated
on
the
site,
plan.
site
plan..
My
recommendation
to
the
board.
F
My
recommendation
to
the
board
is
to
allow
the
applicant
to
is
to
allow
the
applicant
to
provide
a
complete
presentation,
provide
a
complete
presentation.
So
you
understand
where
the
so
you
understand
where
the
variances
are
at,
you'll
see
the
variances
are
at,
you'll
see
the
challenges
with
the
parcel
that
challenges
with
the
parcel
that
I'll
show
you
now
as
we
go
I'll
show
you
now
as
we
go
through
the
photo
essay.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
This
is
abutting
to
the
east..
This
terminates
the
block;
this
this
terminates
the
block;.
This
is
to
the
east
--
excuse
me,,
to
is
to
the
east
--
excuse
me,
to
the
west.,
the
west.
and
then
just
directly
across
and
then
just
directly
across
the
street,.
You
see
the
fabric,
the
street,,
you
see
the
fabric,
that's
around
it,
and
they're.
F
H
H
H
Some
challenges
on
this
house..
Basically,
it's
a
very
modest;
basically,
it's
a
very
modest
three
bedroom,
one
bath,
home,,
three
bedroom,
one
bath
home,
and
there's
a
small
porch
on
the
and
there's
a
small
porch
on
the
back
of
the
house,,
like
a
back
of
the
house,
like
a
utility
porch,,
very
common
of
utility
porch,,
very
common
of
this
era.,
this
era.
and
they
want
to
add
a
bathroom,.
H
Add
like
a
master
bath
and
maybe
like
a
--
sort
of
expand
that,
like
a
--
sort
of
expand
that
porch
and
have
it
a
little
more
porch
and
have
it
a
little
more
utilitarian,,
a
little
more
utilitarian,,
a
little
more
functional.
functional.,
so
that
was
sort
of
the
so
that
was
sort
of
the
challenge.
challenge..
I
think
I'm
going
to
probably
in
I
think
I'm
going
to
probably
in
some
of
these
drawings
just
show.
H
These
here,,
but
I
have
the
big
drawings.
drawings.,
but
the
main
thing
is,,
you
know,,
but
the
main
thing
is,
you
know,.
This
is
where
the
current
this
is
where
the
current
setback
is
for
rs-50,
for
the
setback
is
for
rs-50
for
the
zoning
district,.
So
you
zoning
district,.
So
you
literally
can't
do
anything
to
literally
can't
do
anything
to
expand
this
house
to
the
back,
expand
this
house
to
the
back
without
having
to
get
a
without
having
to
get
a
variance.
variance..
H
Even
if
we
added
a
second
floor,,
even
if
we
added
a
second
floor,,
there's,
really
not
enough
room,
there's
really
not
enough
room
in
the
house,
because
it's
so
in
the
house,
because
it's
so
small,
to
add
a
stare.
So
it
small,
to
add
a
stare.
So
it
would
probably
add
a
stair
to
would
probably
add
a
stair
to
the
rear,
and
the
second
floor,,
the
rear,
and
the
second
floor,
we'd
sort
of
lose
the
modest
we'd
sort
of
lose
the
modest
nature
of
this
small
bungalow.
H
nature
of
this
small
bungalow.
and
then
the
other
thing
is,
and
then
the
other
thing.
Is,,
there's
a
relatively
small
side:
there's
a
relatively
small
side
yard
here,,
there's
an
existing
yard
here,
there's
an
existing
shed,
that's
going
to
be
removed,
shed
that's
going
to
be
removed
because
we're
sort
of
over
on
because
we're
sort
of
over
on
area,.
So
that
was
one
of
the
area,.
So
that
was
one
of
the
requirements
of
zoning.
H
H
Access
and
parking
is
an
issue.
you
know,,
typically
with
older,
you
know,,
typically
with
older
homes,.
You
want
the
vehicular
homes,.
You
want
the
vehicular
parking
to
be
beyond
the
front
parking
to
be
beyond
the
front
face
of
the
house,
which
we
sort
face
of
the
house,,
which
we
sort
of
have
here.
H
H
That
we
needed
to
redo
the
apron,,
so
that's
--
the
existing
apron,.
So
that's
--.
The
existing
one
is
fairly
old..
One
is
fairly
old.,
it's
kind
of
broken
up.,
it's
kind
of
broken
up.,
so
it
does
need
to
be
replaced,,
so
it
does
need
to
be
replaced,
and
they're
wanting
us
to
make
and
they're
wanting
us
to
make
it
wider.
H
H
Because
again
the
existing
sidewalk
is
broken,
up,
and
then
sidewalk
is
broken
up,
and
then
we're
just
going
to
replace
that
we're
just
going
to
replace
that
sidewalk
and
do
the
appropriate
sidewalk
and
do
the
appropriate
scoring
pattern
to
match
the
scoring
pattern
to
match
the
existing
pattern.
existing
pattern..
So
that's
all
so!
That's
all
transportation-driven
transportation-driven
requirement.
requirement.!
All
this
is
unrelated
to
what
all
this
is
unrelated
to
what
we're
doing;.
It's
just
sort
of
we're
doing;,
it's
just
sort
of
ancillary.
ancillary.!
H
Then
the
other
thing
with
this,
then
the
other
thing
with
this
is,,
because
this
is
the
front
is,,
because
this
is
the
front
building
setback,
we
figured
if
building
setback,.
We
figured
if
we're
getting
the
variance
back,
we're
getting
the
variance
back
here,
we
might
as
well
just
go
here,.
We
might
as
well
just
go
ahead
and
vest
the
existing.
H
H
H
H
H
guests
to
use..
And
then
this
is
the
small
part,
and
then
this
is
the
small
part
that
we're
adding
on
to
the
that
we're
adding
on
to
the
bedroom.
bedroom.
they've,
already
modified
a
lot
they've
already
modified
a
lot
of
their
house
on
the
inside,
of
their
house
on
the
inside,
and
just
created
some
closets.
H
H
A
lot
of
these
older
bungalows,
people
tend
to
do
master
bedroom
people
tend
to
do
master
bedroom
suites
that
are
sort
of
out
of
suites
that
are
sort
of
out
of
scale
with
the
house,,
so
these
scale
with
the
house,,
so
these
are
relatively
modest.
Closets.-
are
relatively
modest
closets..
This
is
going
to
be
a
little.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Affect
any
of
these
neighbors
at
all.
all.,
and
while
I'm
on
it,
the
lot
and
while
I'm
on
it,,
the
lot
itself
is
much
smaller
than
most
itself
is
much
smaller
than
most
of
the
heights
in
seminole
of
the
heights
in
seminole
heights,,
it's
oddly
configured,
heights,,
it's
oddly
configured,
and
then
the
existing
conditions
and
then
the
existing
conditions.
As
far
as
not
being
able
to.
H
H
H
H
H
that
existing
porch.
that
porch
gets
removed
because
that
porch
gets
removed
because
this
corner
is
the
one.
That's
this
corner
is
the
one
that's
closest
to
the
rear
property
closest
to
the
rear
property.
Line.
line.
we're
limited
on
how
far
we
can
we're
limited
on
how
far
we
can
set
back.
set
back..
So
right
here
shows
the
--
where
so
right
here
shows
the
--,
where
we're
adding
it
on
at
the.
H
We're
adding
it
on
at
the
sunroom,
and
this
roof
is
a
sunroom,,
and
this
roof
is
a
little
bit
lower
than
the
other
little
bit
lower
than
the
other
roof,,
which
I'll
show
you
in
the
roof,,
which
I'll
show
you
in
the
rear
elevation,,
which
is
this
rear
elevation,,
which
is
this
one.
one..
So
this
shows
the
utility
porch.
H
H
roof,,
that's
coming
off.,
there's
actually
a
pair
of
there's
actually
a
pair
of
french
doors
here,
but
they
don't
french
doors
here,
but
they
don't
go
anywhere.
So
those
are
going
go
anywhere,
so
those
are
going
to
be
removed
and
we're
going
to
to
be
removed
and
we're
going
to
make
a
larger
opening
from
the
make
a
larger
opening
from
the
master
bedroom
to
this
sunroom
master
bedroom
to
this
sunroom.
So
you
can
kind
of
see
here
that.
H
So
you
can
kind
of
see
here
that
this
is
existing
roof,.
So
this
this
is
existing
roof,.
So
this
is
the
part
where
we
have
a
is
the
part
where
we
have
a
little
bit
of
--.
We
want
to
little
bit
of
--.
We
want
to
separate
the
roofs
here,
so
we
separate
the
roofs
here.
So
we
have
a
lower
7'6"
healing
height
have
a
lower
7'6"
healing,
height
here,,
and
then
we
did
a
hip
here,,
and
then
we
did
a
hip
roof.
roof..
I
know
this
house
has
all.
H
Interfere
with
this
existing
gable,,
because
that's
one
of
the
gable,,
because
that's
one
of
the
things
with
the
secretary
of
things
with
the
secretary
of
standards,,
if
this
is
removed,
standards,,
if
this
is
removed,,
then
we're
not
interfering
with
then
we're
not
interfering
with
more
of
the
existing
structure.
More
of
the
existing
structure
than
we
have
to.
H
H
H
Works
off
the
existing
gable,
and
then
the
two
windows,
one
in
and
then
the
two
windows,
one
in
the
bathroom,
one
in
the
laundry
the
bathroom,
one
in
the
laundry
room.
room.-
and
this
is
where
the
geometry-
and
this
is
where
the
geometry
got
kind
of
interesting.
got
kind
of
interesting..
It's
actually
a
fairly
common.
H
It's
actually
a
fairly
common
thing
with
bungalows,,
where
you
thing
with
bungalows,,
where
you
have
a
gable
one
way
and
then
have
a
gable
one
way,
and
then
you
have
a
cross
gable
going
the
you
have
a
cross
gable
going
the
other
way
and
there's
sort
of
other
way
and
there's
sort
of
this
intersection.
Where
this
this
intersection,
where
this
comes
in
and
tucks
in
and
then
comes
in
and
tucks
in,
and
then
you
have
this
roof
sloping
back.
H
You
have
this
roof
sloping
back,
there.
there.!
So
if
we
look
at
this
elevation,
so
if
we
look
at
this
elevation
on
the
side,,
then
we
sort
of
--
on
the
side,.
Then
we
sort
of
--,
and
this
is
where
the
side
yard-
and
this
is
where
the
side
yard
is.
is..
So
this
is
the
more
important,
so
this
is
the
more
important
sort
of
elevation.
H
A
H
H
H
H
H
H
These
are
actually
not
mitreed
joints,.
It's
a
woven,
butt,
butt
joints,,
it's
a
woven,
butt,
butt
joint,!
So
we're
matching
that
joint,.
So
we're
matching
that
detail,
and
the
exposure
on
the
detail,
and
the
exposure
on
the
siding,
we're
matching
that,
siding,
we're
matching
that,
using
woodside
go.
H
H
H
Have
to
work
that
out
in
the
field.
field.
so
on
the
wall,
section,
we're
so
on
the
wall.
Section,
we're
matching
the
existing
ceiling
matching
the
existing
ceiling
height,
with
the
exception
of
the
height,
with
the
exception
of
the
sunroom,,
where
we're
going
to
be
sunroom,.
Where
we're
going
to
be
7'6",,
I
have
the
dimensions
over
7'6",.
I
have
the
dimensions
over
here.
here..
The
camera
is
on
it..
H
Dimensional
asphalt,
shingles.
we're
going
to
have
exposed
we're
going
to
have
exposed
rafter
tails
that
match
the
rafter
tails
that
match
the
existing.
existing.
we're
going
to
have
one
by
four
we're
going
to
have
one
by
four
finished
soffit,
underneath
with
finished
soffit,
underneath
with
a
drip
that
actually
extends
a
a
drip
that
actually
extends
a
little
bit
past.
The
plumb
cut
little
bit
past
the
plumb
cut
rafter
tail.
rafter
tail.,
two
by
four
frame
walls
with
r
two
by
four
frame
walls
with
r
13
insulation.
H
H
H
Trim,
from
the
bottom
up,,
you
know,
corner
here
to
trim
out
know,
corner
here
to
trim
out
the
siding
to
the
subsill,
and
the
siding
to
the
subsill,.
And
then
you
have
the
windowsill..
Then
you
have
the
windowsill.
at
the
top
of
the
window
head
at
the
top
of
the
window,
head
casing
and
drip
and
flashing,
casing
and
drip
and
flashing,
again,
to
match
the
existing.
H
H
H
H
H
The
bottom
rail
and
the
side
style,
and
other
than
that,
it's
style,
and
other
than
that,.
It's
an
insulated
glass
with
the
an
insulated
glass
with
the
impact
layer
on
the
outside,
and
impact
layer
on
the
outside,,
and
as
you
can
see,
it's
an
all-wood
as
you
can
see,
it's
an
all-wood,
window.
window.,
and
that's
something
that
we've
and
that's
something
that
we've
always
worked
very
closely
with.
H
Always
worked
very
closely
with
staff
on
our
projects,
with
staff
on
our
projects
with
windows,,
because
those
are
some
windows,,
because
those
are
some
of
the
most
--.
Arguably
some
of
of
the
most
--.
Arguably
some
of
the
most
character-defining,
the
most
character-defining
features
on
a
home
and
also
it's
features
on
a
home
and
also
it's
part
of
keeping
your
house
part
of
keeping
your
house
protected
from
the
elements
as
protected
from
the
elements
as
well.
well..
And
so
I'm
going
to
go
through.
H
H
H
The
trim,
and
his
pictures
are
a
lot
better
than
mine,
so
I'll
lot
better
than
mine,
so
I'll
skip
mine.
skip
mine.
right
now
the
house
has
--
it
right
now.
The
house
has
--.
It
looks
like
just
regular
three
looks
like
just
regular
three
tab,
shingles
so
at
least
on
the
tab,
shingles
so
at
least
on
the
addition,
and
then
maybe,
if
they
addition,
and
then
maybe
if
they
decide
to
reroof
their
house,,
decide
to
reroof
their
house,.
These
are
certain-teed
landmark,.
H
H
Likes
--
she's
from
the
u.k.,
and
in
historic
properties,,
a
and
in
historic
properties,
a
lot
of
times
the
way
she
lot
of
times
the
way
she
differentiate
new
from
existing
differentiate
new
from
existing
is,
on
some
of
the
newer
is,
on
some
of
the
newer
elements,,
they
tend
to
be
a
elements,.
They
tend
to
be
a
little
more
modern,
but
this
little
more
modern.
But
this
is
--.
I
think
this
kind
of.
H
H
H
H
So
with
the
variance,,
the
first
thing
about
being
unique
and
thing
about
being
unique
and
singular,,
I
think
it's
pretty
singular,.
I
think
it's
pretty
obvious
that
this
is
sort
of
a
obvious
that
this
is
sort
of
a
very
different
lot
than
any
very
different
lot
than
any
other
lots
in
hyde.
Park,
so,,
you
other
lots
in
hyde,
park,
so,,
you
know,,
there's
very
little.
We
can
know,
there's
very
little.
We
can
do
to
it
as
far
as
making
a
home.
H
H
H
That's
the
case
there.
the
third
one:
that,
will
not
the
third
one:
that,
will
not
substantially
interfere
or
substantially
interfere
or
injure
the
health,
safety
and
injure
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
others.
Who
would
be
welfare
of
others
who
would
be
affected
by
the
allow
answer
of
affected
by
the
allow
answer
of
this
variance,
no
neighbors
had
this
variance,
no
neighbors
had
any
issues
with
it.
H
H
The
rear
of
this
building
is
no
closer
than
what
all
the
other
closer
than
what
all
the
other
properties
can
do
as
far
as
an
properties
can
do
as
far
as
an
accessory
building,,
so
we're
no
accessory
building,,
so
we're
no
closer
than
three-foot,,
which
is
closer
than
three-foot,,
which
is
required
for
an
accessory
required
for
an
accessory
building.
building..
The
fourth
one,
the
--
is.
H
H
The
fifth
one
is,
is
allowing
this
variance
will
result
in
this
variance
will
result
in
substantial
justice
being
done,
substantial
justice
being
done.
Both
the
public
benefits,
both
the
public
benefits
intended
to
be
secured
by
this
intended
to
be
secured
by
this
chapter
and
the
individual
chapter
and
the
individual
hardships
or
practical
hardships
or
practical
difficulties
that
will
be
difficulties
that
will
be
suffered
due
to
a
failure
of
the
suffered
due
to
a
failure
of
the
board
to
grant
this
variance.
H
H
The
merits
will
allow
additional
living
area
consistent
with
living
area
consistent
with
surrounding
homes
in
the
area,
surrounding
homes,
in
the
area,
similar
homes
in
size.
In
this
similar
homes
in
size
in
this
area
do
not
have
the
extra
area
do
not
have
the
extra
burden
of
a
small
oddly
burden
of
a
small
oddly
configured
lot.
H
configured
lot.,
the
variance
for
a
rear
yard,
--,
the
variance
for
a
rear
yard
--
for
a
rear
yard
setback
for
a
rear
yard
setback
reduction
would
provide
relief
reduction,
would
provide
relief
and
allow
reasonable
use
of
the
and
allow
reasonable
use
of
the
property.
property..
Substantial
would
be
done
by
substantial
would
be
done
by
allowing
for
these
hardships
and
allowing
for
these
hardships
and
practical
difficulties
to
be
practical
difficulties
to
be
addressed.
addressed.
and
the
last
one
really
relates.
H
H
response
to
that
one..
The
proposed
addition
mites
all
the
proposed
addition
mites
all
the
requirements
of
hyde
park,
the
requirements
of
hyde
park
design
guidelines
and
the
design
guidelines
and
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
secretary
of
interior
standards
for
modification
of
a
for
modification
of
a
contributing
structure
in
a
contributing
structure
in
a
historic
district.,
historic
district.
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Hi,,
I'm
linda,.
I
have
--
I'm
from
the
u.k.,
so
I'm
new
to
the
from
the
u.k.,
so
I'm
new
to
the
area,
but
I
am
very
used
to
area,
but
I
am
very
used
to
working
with
very
historic
working
with
very
historic
buildings
and
respecting
that,
buildings
and
respecting
that,,
and
so
not
only
do
I
bring
that.
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E
It's
a
very
small
property,,
actually
1360
square
feet
for
actually
1360
square
feet
for
we're.
Looking
for
an
additional
we're.
Looking
for
an
additional
300
square
feet,,
which
we
think
300
square
feet,,
which
we
think
is
pretty
modest.,
is
pretty
modest.
we're
used
to
very
small
houses,
we're
used
to
very
small
houses
in
the
u.k..
So
for
us
this
would.
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F
information
into
the
record..
The
statement
of
hardship
that
the
statement
of
hardship
that
mr.
dobbs
went
through,
we're
mr.
dobbs
went
through,
we're
going
to
enter
that
into
the
going
to
enter
that
into
the
record.
record..
The
good
neighbor
noticing,
that
the
good
neighbor
noticing,
that
goes
out
to
everybody
within
250
goes
out
to
everybody
within
250,
radial
feet,
and
all
the
radial
feet,
and
all
the
neighborhood
groups.
neighborhood
groups.,
and
then
the
affidavit
attesting
and
then
the
affidavit
attesting
to
notification
as
well,
along.
F
A
Noticing
to
everybody
within
the
noticing,
area,
consistent
with
noticing
area,
consistent
with
our
code.,
our
code.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point.
We'll
open
the
at
this
point,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
public
public
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
comment.
this
portion
will
only
be
in
this
portion
will
only
be
in
reference
to
the
variance,
if
reference
to
the
variance,.
If
there's
anyone
that
would
like
there's
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak
either
for
or
against
to
speak,
either
for
or
against
the
project.,
the
project.
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and
no
side
yard.,
so
that
--,
so
we
just
felt
that,
so
that
--,
so
we
just
felt
that,
since
we're
not
required
--
that,
since
we're
not
required
--
that
we
can
do
it
without
going
any,
we
can
do
it
without
going
any
closer
than,.
You
know,
three
and
closer
than,,
you
know,
three
and
a
half
feet,
essentially,.
We
can
a
half
feet,
essentially,.
We
can
do
a
very
modest
addition
off.
H
Do
a
very
modest
addition
off
the
back,
with
minimal
impact,
the
back,
with
minimal
impact
from
the
front,,
that's
another
from
the
front,.
That's
another
important
consideration,,
so
important
consideration,.
So
we're
really
not
changing
the
we're,
really
not
changing
the
front
elevation,.
Just
on
the
front
elevation,.
Just
on
the
very
back
of
the
house,
we're
very
back
of
the
house:
we're
just
protecting
up
here.,
just
protecting
up
here.,
so
all
those
things
are
sort
of.
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ron,
vila:
all
projects
prior
ron,
vila:
all
projects
prior
to
them,
coming
here,
other
city
to
them.
Coming
here,.
Other
city
agencies
review
the
projects,,
so
agencies
review
the
projects,
so
as
presented,
preliminarily,
it
as
presented,
preliminarily,
it
meets.
The
criteria.
meets
the
criteria.
as
it
goes
through
the
as
it
goes
through
the
permitting
process,
it
would
permitting
process,
it
would
have
to
meet
the
building
code
have
to
meet
the
building
code
as
well,
for
separation
to
the
as
well
for
separation
to
the
property
line,,
not
to
other
property
line,,
not
to
other
buildings,.
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A
A
zachary
greco:
and
what
would
zachary
greco:
and
what
would
be
--
if
we
do
the
variance
for
be
--,
if
we
do
the
variance
for
the
rear,
setback,
understanding
the
rear,
setback,
understanding
that
the
addition
to
this
house
that
the
addition
to
this
house
would
be
closer,
if
it
does
come
would
be
closer,
if
it
does
come
back
on
a
too
close,.
What
woulde.
F
D
F
At
the
corner,,
did
anybody
look
at
that
or
they
will
look
at
at
that
or
they
will
look
at
that,
you're
saying,
in
the
that,
you're
saying,
in
the
permitting
process?
permitting
process?
ron
vila:?
It
will
from
the
ron
vila:
it
will
from
the
building,
from
where
he
wants
to
building,
from
where
he
wants
to
build
it,
to
the
property.
Line.
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H
.,
I'm
not
sure
what
table
it
is,
I'm
not
sure
what
table
it
is
in
the
florida
building
code.
in
the
florida
building
code.
it's
in
chapter
3
of
the
it's
in
chapter
3
of
the
residential
florida
building
residential
florida
building,
code.
code..
It
talks
about
two
feet
being
it
talks
about
two
feet
being
the
minimum
--
or
yeah.
the
minimum,
--
or
yeah.
the
minimum
that
you
can
be
from.
H
The
minimum
that
you
can
be
from
property
line,
with
property
line
with
any
--
anything,
that's
not
any
--.
Anything,
that's
not
rated.,
rated.!
That's
why
we
have
three
and
a
that's
why
we
have
three
and
a
half
feet:
plus,
like,,
18,
inches,
half
feet,
plus,
like,,
18
inches
of
overhang,
so
we're
not.
A
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C
A
Regard
to
the
affidavit
of
compliance
with
the
notice
compliance
with
the
notice
requirements,,
if
that
could
be
requirements,,
if
that
could
be
entered
into
the
record.
entered
into
the
record.
zachary
greco:,
I
actually
have
zachary
greco:.
I
actually
have
an
additional
question
about
an
additional
question
about
this
as
well.
this
as
well..
It
was
also
brought
up
in
terms.
A
C
This
or
leaving,
as
is,
and
not
mentioning
the
front
setback?
mentioning
the
front
setback?
cate
wells:
well,,
the
cate
wells:
well,.
The
application
before
you
is
application
before
you
is
requesting
both
a
variance
to
requesting
both
a
variance
to
vest
the
existing
conditions
in
vest
the
existing
conditions
in
the
front
yard,
as
well
as
the
the
front
yard,
as
well
as
the
rear
yard
setback
for
the
rear
yard
setback
for
the
proposed
addition.
proposed
addition..
When
I
met
with
staff,
the
one
when
I
met
with
staff,.
C
Typically,
when
you
see
a
request
for
variances,,
it's
just
between
for
variances,,
it's
just
between
the
property
line
and
the
the
property
line
and
the
closest
point
of
the
structure
closest
point
of
the
structure,
which
would
be
the
front
porch.,
which
would
be
the
front
porch..
So
I
thought
the
inclusion
of
a.
C
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H
Does
the
applicant
have
any
additional
rebuttal
based
off
of
additional
rebuttal
based
off
of
what
was
stated??
What
was
stated?
no.
no.?
We
were
basically
doing
that
at
we
were
basically
doing
that
at
the
direction
of
staff.
the
direction
of
staff.
a
lot
of
the
historic
areas
have
a
lot
of
the
historic
areas
have
different
setbacks
for
open
different
setbacks
for
open
porches
than
enclosed
condition,
porches
than
enclosed
condition,
spaces,,
especially
seminole
spaces,,
especially
seminole
heights,
with
the
new
building
heights
with
the
new
building
code.
code..
So
I
thought
it
important
to
so.
H
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C
Of
4,,
3
of
4
and
4
of
4,
don't
have
signatures?,
have
signatures?
cate
wells:,
the
very
last
page
cate
wells:.
The
very
last
page
has
the
signatures
for
has
the
signatures
for
everything.
everything.,
but
the
documents
I'm
referring,
but
the
documents
I'm
referring
to
were
the
ones
provided
by
ron.
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A
A
A
A
A
B
B
B
D
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A
They're
not
here.
zachary
greco:,
I'm
also
zachary
greco:,
I'm
also
slightly
torn
between
the
two.
slightly
torn
between
the
two..
So
for
me
I
completely
so
for
me.
I
completely
understand,
based
off
of
some
of
understand,
based
off
of
some
of
the
zoning
guidelines,
that
we,
the
zoning
guidelines,
that
we
have
now
today,
you
would
not
be
have
now
today,.
You
would
not
be
able
to
put
the
historic
house
able
to
put
the
historic
house
on
the
lot
as
it
is.
A
D
D
A
B
A
B
B
B
Want
to
handle
them
separately
or
in
one
motion.
or
in
one
motion.
zachary
greco:.
We
can
do
them
zachary
greco:.
We
can
do
them.
Separately.
separately.,
it's
fine.,
it's
fine.,
stephen
sutton:!
That's
what
I
stephen
sutton:!
That's
what
I
thought
we
were
doing.
thought
we
were
doing.
again,
based
on
the
petitioner's
again,,
based
on
the
petitioner's
meeting,
the
burden
of
proof
with
meeting
the
burden
of
proof
with
regard
to
the
six
hardship
regard
to
the
six
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section.
B
A
B
B
B
Evidence
provided
at
this
public
hearing,,
specifically
that
the
hearing,,
specifically,
that
the
variance
if
granted,
will
allow
variance
if
granted,
will
allow
development.
That
is
consistent
development
that
is
consistent
with
the
design
standards
and
with
the
design,
standards
and
compatibility
with
the
historic
compatibility
with
the
historic
pattern
of
development
within
pattern
of
development
within
the
historic
district,
overlay.
A
F
All
right.
ron,
vila:
commissioners,
ron
ron,
vila:
commissioners,
ron,
vila,
historic
and
staff
vila,
historic
and
staff
preservation.
preservation.
mr.
dobbs,,
both
variances
were
mr.
dobbs,.
Both
variances
were
approved,
moving
to
the
approved
moving
to
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
certificate
of
appropriateness,
thus
finding
the
application
is.
A
It
is
consistent
with
our
criteria
and
he
did
all
the
criteria
and
he
did
all
the
items
on
the
staff
report
on
items
on
the
staff
report
on
page
4.
page
4.
thank
you.
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point.
We'll
open
the
at
this
point,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
public
public
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
comment.
this
portion
will
be
in
regards
this
portion
will
be
in
regards
to
only
the
architectural
to
only
the
architectural
addition.
addition.,
seeing
and
hearing
none,
the
seeing
and
hearing
none,.
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H
C
H
H
Those
to
match
the
existing
roof?
roof?,
the
existing
house-
actually
the
existing
house
actually
has
three
types
of
shingles
on-
has
three
types
of
shingles
on
it,
which
are
typically
not
it,
which
are
typically
not
allowed
or
approved
in
the
allowed
or
approved
in
the
historic
district.
historic
district..
So
we
didn't
want
to
match
so
we
didn't
want
to
match
those.
those..
Are
you
replacing
the
old
roof?
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A
I
don't
have
any
other
questions.
questions.
stephen
sutton:.
I
have
no
stephen
sutton:.
I
have
no
question.
question.
zachary
greco:.
I
have
a
few
zachary
greco:.
I
have
a
few
questions
for
you.
questions
for
you.
the
a/c
unit
location.
That's
the
a/c
unit
location.
That's
currently
shown
on
the
site
currently
shown
on
the
site.
Plan.
plan..
Is
it
going
to
stay
where
it
is.
H
H
H
Ideally
it
would
be
better
to
be
on
the
other
side
better
to
be
on
the
other
side
of
the
house
and
maybe
they'll
of
the
house
and
maybe
they'll
consider
that,,
but
for
tonight,
consider
that,,
but
for
tonight,
it's
going
to
remain
in
its
it's
going
to
remain
in
its
current
location.
So
if
it
has
to
current
location,
so
if
it
has
to
be
replaced
with
a
larger
unit,,
be
replaced
with
a
larger
unit,,
it
will
be
in
the
exact
same.
H
A
Is
behind
the
existing
fence.
and
it's
behind
another
fence
and
it's
behind
another
fence,
too.
too.,
so
they
don't
have
to
look
at
so
they
don't
have
to
look
at
it.,
it.,
zachary
greco:!
You
did
mention
zachary
greco:,
you
did
mention
the
window.
That's
currently
the
window
that's
currently
proposed
is
not
approved.
A
H
H
H
H
A
A
You
do
see
the
sort
of
--
yep.
right,
there.
right.
There.
you
see
the
new
door
you're.
You
see
the
new
door
you're,
adding
into
that
mud
room?,
adding
into
that
mud,
room?,
yes.,
yes.,
zachary
greco:.
Was
there
any
zachary
greco:?
Was
there
any
sort
of
either
thought
or
design
sort
of
either
thought
or
design
that
you
guys
looked
at
to?
Where
that
you
guys
looked
at
to
where
that
door
was
hidden
from
the
that
door
was
hidden
from
the
front
to
where
either
the
front
to
where
either
the
addition
didn't
come
past.
H
A
A
A
D
D
B
A
A
A
Back
side,
and
maybe
the
one
spot
on
the
site
and
yard
area
where,
on
the
site
and
yard
area,
where
you
won't
see
a
lot
of
it.,
you
won't
see
a
lot
of
it.,
the
west
right
side,
elevation,
the
west
right
side,
elevation,
that's
proposed
2p
on
the
that's
proposed
2p
on
the
screens.
Up
on
the
board,.
You
see.
A
A
A
D
Added
on
to
this
house
versus
maybe
one
single
piece.,
maybe
one
single
piece.-
I
think
the
only
way
to
I
think
the
only
way
to
really
change
it
is
to
not
do
really
change.
It
is
to
not
do
the
stair
steps.,
the
stair
steps.,
the
three
stair
steps,
which
I
the
three
stair
steps,
which
I
get
parallel:
the
back
angle
of
get
parallel:
the
back
angle
of
the
property.,
the
property.
zachary
greco:,
yep.,
zachary,
greco:
yep..
D
E
A
D
In
arc20-95
for
the
property
located
at
1808,
west
watrous,
located
at
1808
west
watrous
avenue,
with
the
following
avenue,
with
the
following
conditions,
that
the
applicant
conditions,,
that
the
applicant
work
with
staff
on
final
window
work
with
staff
on
final
window
approval.
If
the
windows
proposed
approval.
If
the
windows
proposed
today
do
not
get
project.
D
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
favorite
things
to
see.
one
of
my
favorite
features.,
one
of
my
favorite
features..
This
is
the
north
side
of
the
this
is
the
north
side
of
the
building.
building..
It's
a
little
hard
to
see
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
because
of
the
vegetation
and
because
of
the
vegetation
and
the
fencing.
the
fencing..
This
is
the
south
side
of
the.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
H
I'm
with
them
this
evening.,
I've
known
them
for
a
while.,
I've
known
them
for
a
while.
met
in
seminole
heights
and
they
met
in
seminole
heights
and
they
met
and
had
kids.
met
and
had
kids..
It's
a
great
story
of
what
it's
a
great
story
of
what
happens
in
seminole
heights.
happens
in
seminole
heights..
They
have
this
gorgeous
sort
of.
H
Currently
they
have
a
couple
cars
they're
parking
along
the
cars
they're
parking
along
the
street.
street.
anyway,.
They
wanted
to
do
an
anyway,.
They
wanted
to
do
an
accessory
structure
with
parking
accessory
structure
with
parking
below
and
living
space,
above.
below
and
living
space
above..
They
wanted
to
do
it
as
big
as
they
wanted
to
do
it
as
big
as
they
could.
H
H
H
accessory
dwelling
unit.
that
it
won't
be
a
living
that
it
won't
be
a
living
apartment
which
it
can't
be
apartment
which
it
can't
be
legally.
legally.,
so
we're
--.
I
wanted
to
make
so
we're
--.
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear
that
that's
not
a
that
clear
that
that's
not
a
consideration.
consideration.
they're,
going
to
use
it
for
they're,
going
to
use
it
for
their
guests
to
stay
and
their
guests
to
stay
and
possibly
as
a
studio
and
things
possibly
as
a
studio
and
things
like
that.
H
H
H
Terrace
in
hyde
park
has
wonderful
one
and
a
half
story:
wonderful
one
and
a
half
story,
little
bungalows
or
some
people,
little
bungalows
or
some
people
call
that
bungalets
or
call
that
bungalets
or
something.
something.
they're
small
in
scale
and
the
they're
small
in
scale,
and
the
second
floor
is
much
smaller.
H
Second
floor
is
much
smaller
than
the
first
floor.
than
the
first
floor..
I
thought
that
is
the
kind
of
I
thought
that
is
the
kind
of
form
we're
going
to
use
for
this
form
we're
going
to
use
for
this
building.
building..
So
that's
the
way
we
approached
so
that's
the
way
we
approached
the
form
of
the
building.,
the
form
of
the
building..
It
allows
us
to
have
a
bigger.
H
First
floor
footprint
to
accommodate
the
larger
size,
cars
accommodate
the
larger
size,
cars
we
drive
these
days
and
a
larger
we
drive
these
days
and
a
larger
footprint
allows
us
to
do.
Two
footprint
allows
us
to
do
two
single
garage
doors
instead
of
single
garage
doors
instead
of
one
large
door.
That
is
divided
one
large
door
that
is
divided
up
or
designed
to
make
it
look.
A
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
you'll
see
in
the
elevations..
That
was
important
to
maintain.
That
was
important
to
maintain
the
eave
line
for
simple
the
eave
line
for
simple
detailing,
and
it
goes
over
here
detailing
and
it
goes
over
here
and
the
building
itself
is
and
the
building
itself
is
there.
there.
on
the
back
side,.
It
has
a
on
the
back
side,.
It
has
a
porch.
porch..
They
have
a
pool
and
a
nice.
H
H
That's
the
result
of
the
second
floor.
Porch.
floor,
porch.
also,.
There
is
a
garage
door
also,.
There
is
a
garage
door
here
so
that,
if
they
need
to
here
so
that
if
they
need
to
bring
any
equipment
through
or
bring
any
equipment
through
or
whatever,,
that's
a
nice
whatever,.
That's
a
nice
convenient
access
as
well.
H
H
Know,
in
the
area
that
we
have
to
deal
with.
to
deal
with.,
so
that's
sort
of
the
site,
and
so
that's
sort
of
the
site
and
orientation.
orientation.
I'll
go
ahead
and
explain
the
I'll
go
ahead
and
explain
the
floor
plans
a
little
bit
because
floor
plans
a
little
bit,
because
that
helps
explain
some
of
the.
H
H
H
This
is
what
I
was
talking
about
about
the
garage
doors
here,
about
the
garage
doors
here,
here
and
here.
here
and
here..
The
reason
these
are
shown
as
the
reason
these
are
shown
as
hinge
doors
is
the
neighbor
hinge
doors.
Is
the
neighbor
across
the
street
actually
did
across
the
street,
actually
did
hinge
carriage
house
doors
and
hinge
carriage
house
doors
and
they
have
an
operator
that
they
they
have
an
operator
that
they
got
from
europe.,
got
from
europe.
they're,
pretty
slick
the
way
they're
pretty
slick,
the
way
they
operate.
they
operate..
H
They
want
to
try
to
do
the
same
thing.
thing.,
we'll
work
on
that.,
we'll
work
on
that..
If
we
can't
get
this
kind
of,
if
we
can't
get
this
kind
of
function,,
then
we'll
have
the
function,,
then
we'll
have
the
regular
garage
door,
but
this
is
regular
garage
door,
but
this
is
what
we're
proposing.,
what
we're
proposing.
it
doesn't
really
affect
how
the
it
doesn't
really
affect
how
the
door
looks
and
the
elevations.
H
H
H
H
H
Laid
out
yet
and
some
sort
of
closet
or
mechanical
area.,
closet
or
mechanical
area..
All
this
is
the
roof
below..
All
this
is
the
roof
below..
Then
you
have
the
porch.,
then
you
have
the
porch..
You
have
a
general
sized
porch.,
you
have
a
general
sized
porch.
part
of
it
encroaches
over
the
part
of
it
encroaches
over
the
garage
and
part
jets,
out.
garage
and
part
jets,
out..
That
was
more
of
a
functional.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
The
garage,
we
divided
it
at
the
three
bays,
so
we
have
two
three
bays,
so
we
have
two
columns
and
three
spaces.
columns
and
three
spaces.
you'll
notice.
There
is
actually
you'll
notice.
There
is
actually
a
beam
here
that
supports
the
a
beam
here
that
supports
the
roof
rafters
and
there
is
roof
rafters
and
there
is
another
beam
down
here..
Another
beam
down.
Here.
part
of
that
comes
from
the
part
of
that
comes
from
the
detail
that
is
on
this
existing
detail.
That
is
on
this
existing
sort
of
porch
thing.
H
That's
on
sort
of
porch
thing:
that's
on
the
house.,
the
house.
also,,
the
porch
--,
the
rear,
also,,
the
porch
--,
the
rear
porch
on
this
building,
which
porch
on
this
building,
which
we'll
get
to
in
a
minute.
we'll
get
to
in
a
minute.
we're
picking
up
on
the
same
we're
picking
up
on
the
same
sort
of
detail
on
this.
H
H
H
H
H
This
is
the
one
that
goes
to
the
stairs
that
go
up.
Here.
stairs
that
go
up
here.
the
design
of
the
windows
are,
the
design
of
the
windows
are
designed.
--
they'll
be
casement,
designed
--
they'll,
be
casement
windows
with
the
light
pattern
windows.
With
the
light
pattern
similar
to
the
existing
house.
H
H
H
You
can
see
how
the
map
--
this
and
this
are
in
the
same
plain.,
and
this
are
in
the
same
plain.
this
and
this
setback
--,
you
can
this
and
this
setback
--.
You
can
begin
to
see
on
the
elevation
begin
to
see
on
the
elevation,
the
detail
of
the
rear,
porch,
the
detail
of
the
rear
porch,
where
this
is
fairly
high,
but
where
this
is
fairly
high,
but
then
we
come
down
with
this.
H
H
H
H
They
really
wanted
to
do
this
one
up,
nice.
one
up,
nice.,
that's
why
this
has
so
much
that's
why
this
has
so
much
detail
to
it.
detail
to
it..
Here
again
you
see
the
double
here
again
you
see
the
double
beam
which
is
similar
to
the
beam
which
is
similar
to
the
breezeway.
breezeway..
We
have
the
knee
braces..
H
H
H
Six
by
six
ridge
beam
that
comes
up,
so
we
have
this
king
post
up.
So
we
have
this
king
post,
here.
here.
the
railing
I'll
get
to
in
the
the
railing
I'll
get
to
in
the
wall.
Section.
wall
section..
You
can
see
this
in
relationship.
You
can
see
this
in
relationship
to
the
main
house.
to
the
main
house..
It's
all
one
story,
here.,
it's
all
one
story:
here.!
We
have
a
one
two-story
element.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
You
really
won't
see
much
of
it,
because
there
will
be
a
six-foot,
because
there
will
be
a
six-foot
fence
right,
here.
fence,
right,
here.
I'll,
go
through
the
materials
on
I'll
go
through
the
materials
on
the
outside.,
the
outside..
I
think
the
drawings
that
y'all,
I
think
the
drawings
that
y'all
have,.
I
noticed
there
were
a
few
have,.
I
noticed
there
were
a
few
typos,
so
I
apologize.
typos,
so
I
apologize.
I
corrected
it
on
these..
H
H
H
H
A
horizontal
six-inch
trim
under
that.
that.
we're
using
wood
siding,
which
is
we're
using
wood,
siding
which
is
actually
better
because
it's
actually
better
because
it's
thicker,
so
you
get
a
deeper
thicker.
So
you
get
a
deeper
shadow
line
and
it's
much
better
shadow
line
and
it's
much
better
looking.
looking..
It's
so
important
that
hardy
has
it's
so
important
that
hardy
has
a
new
product
--.
It's
not
new,
a
new
product
--,
it's
not
new
anymore,
but
artisan
is
actually
anymore,
but
artisan
is
actually
a
thicker
siding.
So
you
get
a
thicker
siding.
H
H
H
The
standing
seam
metal,
roof.
and
then
--,
so
this
is
sort
of
and
then
--.
So
this
is
sort
of
like
a
typical
wall
section
to
like
a
typical
wall
section
to
show
where
it
sort
of
steps
show
where
it
sort
of
steps.
Back.
back.
we're
going
to
use
engineered
we're
going
to
use
engineered
core
tress
to
go
24
feet
with
core
tress
to
go
24
feet
with
minimal
depth
here
to
keep
down
minimal
depth
here
to
keep
down
on
the
height
of
the
building..
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
The
overhangs
are
larger
of
course.
course.,
they're,
30-inch
overhangs,
so
they're
30-inch
overhangs.
So
we're
maintaining
that
and
then
we're
maintaining
that
and
then
again
the
lower
angle
roof
that
again
the
lower
angle
roof
that
will
match
the
existing.
will
match
the
existing.
on
the
porch,,
the
other
on
the
porch,.
The
other
important
sort
of
section
detail,
important
sort
of
section
detail.
Is
we
have
a
thickened
slab?
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
for
their
dining
porch..
It
has
the
6x6
and,,
you
know,,
it
has
the
6x6
and,
you
know,,
then
you
have
the
king
post
and
then
you
have
the
king
post
and
the
ridge
beach,
and
then
this
is
the
ridge
beach
and
then
this
is
that
little
green
and
green
that
little
green
and
green
detail
that
I
mentioned
before.
H
Details
and
materials.
apologize.
apologize.-
these
may
be
a
little
out
of
these-
may
be
a
little
out
of
order.
order..
I
had
three
cases
tonight..
I
had
three
cases.
Tonight.
just
put.
Some
of
these
photos
just
put
some
of
these
photos
together,
real
quick.,
together
real
quick..
This
shows
the
rafter
details.
H
H
H
H
H
express
the
details,
again.,
that's
typical
of
arts
and
craft.
That's
typical
of
arts
and
craft
style,
architecture.
style
architecture..
This
one,!
I
don't
know
if
you
this
one,,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
make
up.
can
make
up.
2x10
barge
rafter
and
then
2x8,
2x10,
barge
rafter
and
then
2x8
for
all
the
common
rafters.
H
H
H
You
can
see
how
the
size
of
the
you
can
see
how
the
size
of
the
casing,,
the
drip,
cap,
a
little
casing,,
the
drip
cap,
a
little
overhang
here
and
then
how
overhang
here
and
then
how
the
--,
basically
the
water
table,
the
--.
Basically
the
water
table
is
just
trunicated
right.
There
is
just
trunicated
right
there
at
this
edge
of
the
casing.
H
H
H
H
This
is
a
few
streets
down
on
(inaudible).
(inaudible)..
It
has
the
ribbon
driveway
that
it
has
the
ribbon
driveway.
That
has
the
ribbons
that
go
up
to
has
the
ribbons
that
go
up
to
the
garage
doors.,
the
garage
doors..
Then
it
has
gravel
between
in
then.
It
has
gravel
between
in
all
these
areas
that
you
don't
all
these
areas
that
you
don't
drive
and
then
because
you're
drive
and
then
because
you're
sloping
up,.
They
built
this
sloping
up,.
H
H
mohawk
and
seminole.,
and
this
garage
was
modified
a
and
this
garage
was
modified
a
couple
years
ago.
couple
years.
Ago.
the
doors
are
really
nice..
The
doors
are
really
nice.,
they're,
just
--,
I
think
they're
they're
just
--.
I
think
they're
metal
doors
but
they're
painted
metal
doors,
but
they're
painted
like
wood.,
like
wood.
they're,
just
gorgeous
and
the
they're
just
gorgeous,
and
the
proportion
and
scale
of
them
proportion
and
scale
of
them.
Just
look
great.
H
H
H
H
H
H
E
E
He
here.
here.,
that's
actually
pretty
good.,
that's
actually
pretty
good.,
that's
from
the
inner
part
of
that's
from
the
inner
part
of
the
yard.,
the
yard..
This
is
from
the
street
and
I
this
is
from
the
street,
and
I
guess
this
would
be
from
guess.
This
would
be
from
basically
the
southeast
kind
of
basically
the
southeast
kind
of
southeast
view.
southeast
view.,
and
then
this
would
be
kind
of.
E
H
H
E
E
E
E
H
A
I
I
I
A
A
A
B
B
H
H
H
H
run
horizontal.,
so
that
will
run
back
and
tie
so
that
will
run
back
and
tie
into
the
corner
of
the
building
into
the
corner
of
the
building.
Here.
here.
on
the
back
side,
we'll
go
ahead
on
the
back.
Side,
we'll
go
ahead
and
probably
just
have
the
fence,
and
probably
just
have
the
fence
run
all
the
way
down
here,
as
it
run
all
the
way
down
here,
as
it
already
is,
and
then
just
put
in
already,
is
and
then
just
put
in
a
little
filler
right,
here.
H
B
H
E
H
H
E
H
D
Then
we're
good.
shawna
boyd:.
I
don't
have
any
shawna
boyd:.
I
don't
have
any
questions.
questions.
ashley
de
cubas:.
Neither
do
I.
ashley
de
cubas:
neither
do
I.
tamara
rice:.
I
have
a
bigger
tamara
rice:.
I
have
a
bigger
philosophical,
question.,
philosophical
question..
So
typically
when
we
have
an
so
typically
when
we
have
an
alley
behind
a
property
and
you
alley
behind
a
property
and
you
have
an
access.
Restraketure
have
an
access
restraketure
behind
the
proper
--
accessory
behind
the
proper
--
accessory
structure
behind
the
property,.
H
H
H
H
It's
easier
to
negotiate
that
way.
way..
If
you
have
the
lot,
say
to
the,
if
you
have
the
lot,
say
to
the
north
of
this
property,,
if
they
north
of
this
property,,
if
they
wanted
to
do
an
accessory,
wanted
to
do
an
accessory
structure,
they'd
have
to
have
24
structure.
They'd
have
to
have
24
feet
of
backup
space,
which
is
feet
of
backup
space,
which
is
something
transportation,
something
transportation,
requires.
H
D
I
I
I
D
A
A
H
Parking
were
showing
--,
I
believe
it's,
the
four
ribbons.
believe
it's
the
four
ribbons.
yeah.
yeah..
If
the
camera
can
zoom
in
real,
if
the
camera
can
zoom
in
real
close
to
that
area.
close
to
that
area.,
I
don't
know
how
close
they
can.
I
don't
know
how
close
they
can
get,
but
where
the
pointer
is.
A
Get
but
where
the
pointer
is.
so
do
you
want
me
to
explain
it?
so
do
you
want
me
to
explain
it?
zachary,
greco:
well,?
Let
me
zachary
greco:
well,.
Let
me
ask
my
question.:
ask
my
question..
We
have
the
four
aprons
that
we
have
the
four
aprons
that
alignory
the
four
--
align
or
alignory
the
four
--
align
or
the
four
ribbons
that
align
the
four
ribbons
that
align
below
and
five
strips
of
gavel
below
and
five
strips
of
gavel
with
your
8-inch
concrete
curb.
A
H
H
So
there
is
currently
not
a
sidewalk.
sidewalk.,
that's
something
that
tim
and
that's
something
that
tim
and
the
neighborhood
association.
The
neighborhood
association
president
asked
about
the
president
asked
about
the
sidewalk.
sidewalk..
I
pointed
out
to
him.
There
is
no,
I
pointed
out
to
him.
There
is
no
sidewalk
down
here
and
that
even
sidewalk
down
here
and
that,
even
though
they
may
want
to
do
a
though
they
may
want
to
do
a
sidewalk
in
the
future,,
we
won't
sidewalk
in
the
future,.
We
won't
do
it
here..
Do
it
here..
There
is
a
lot
of
landscaping.
H
H
A
H
H
It
just
contains
the
gravel
here.
here.
because,,
you
know,
your
because,,
you
know,
your
slope
--,
because
the
garage
is
slope
--,
because
the
garage
is
required
by
storm
water
to
be
at
required
by
storm
water
to
be
at
least
12
inches
by
the
crown
of
least
12
inches
by
the
crown
of
the
corrode
road.
H
The
corrode
road.
you
do
end
up
having
a
little
you
do
end
up
having
a
little
slope,
here.
slope
here.,
since
the
concrete
is
sloping
since
the
concrete
is
sloping
up,,
it's
a
way
to
contain
that
up,.
It's
a
way
to
contain
that
and
give
a
clean
termination
to
and
give
a
clean
termination
to
the
end
of
the
driveway.,
the
end
of
the
driveway..
It
was
done
in
that
private
that
it
was
done
in
that
private
that
I
showed.
I
showed..
There
is
a
couple
other
houses.
A
In
the
neighborhood
as
well,
where
it's
been
done.,
where
it's
been
done.,
it's
a
nice
clean
detail.,
it's
a
nice,
clean,
detail.,
zachary,
greco:,
okay.,
zachary,
greco:
okay..
Then
I
can
clearly
see
that
you,
then
I
can
clearly
see
that
you
enjoyed
the
detailing
and
enjoyed
the
detailing
and
designing
this
project.
A
A
A
A
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Highly
detailed
and
we
need
to
differentiate
new
from
existing.
differentiate,
new
from
existing.
the
clients,,
with
it
being
the
clients,
with
it
being
cigars,
and
they
heavily
detail
cigars
and
they
heavily
detail
their
buildings,.
They
thought
it
their
buildings,.
They
thought
it
like
a
decorated
cigar
box.
H
H
C
To
--
or
amber.
I
need
reinforcements
from
my.
I
need
reinforcements
from
my
clients
on
this
one.
clients
on
this
one.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
so
I
bought
the
house
in
2005,
so
I
bought
the
house
in
2005
and
I
looked
at
about
30
houses
and
I
looked
at
about
30
houses
in
seminole
heights
before
in
seminole
heights.
Before
choosing
this
one.
C
C
The
rafter
tails
and
drip
cap
and
skirting.
and
skirting.
french
doors
off
the
dining
area,
french
doors
off
the
dining
area
and
the
small
side,
porch
there,
and
the
small
side.
Porch
there,,
plus
a
lot
of
extra
details,
plus
a
lot
of
extra
details
inside
this
house
that
are
not
inside
this
house
that
are
not
in
a
lot
of
the
other
houses
in
in
a
lot
of
the
other
houses
in
seminole
heights.
In
terms
of
the
seminole
heights.
C
C
A
A
A
H
H
H
H
If
we
have
to
change
something,,
we'll
talk
it
over
with
staff.,
we'll
talk
it
over
with
staff.
rob
and
amber,
are
pretty
devoted,
rob
and
amber
are
pretty
devoted
people
to
the
neighborhood
and
people
to
the
neighborhood
and
this
house,.
So
I
can't
really
this
house,,
so
I
can't
really
see
that
happening
to
be
honest.,
see
that
happening
to
be
honest..
It
might
take
them
a
little.
H
C
H
E
E
B
B
H
H
Currently
the
refrigerant
lines
for
the
main
house
run
in
here,
for
the
main
house
run
in
here,,
but
the
condensing
unit
is
out,
but
the
condensing
unit
is
out
here
and
they
run
underground
to
here
and
they
run
underground
to
the
house.,
the
house..
So
what
I'd
imagine
that
rob
is
so?
What
I'd
imagine
that
rob
is
going
to
do
is
have
the.
H
Going
to
do
is
have
the
condensing
unit
somewhere
in
condensing
unit
somewhere
in
this
area,,
and
it's
going
to
be
this
area,
and
it's
going
to
be
behind
the
fence.
behind
the
fence.,
the
rear
yard,
fence.,
the
rear
yard
fence..
It
will
be
out
of
view
to
the
it
will
be
out
of
view
to
the
backyard
and
it's
close
enough.
B
A
A
D
D
B
B
Existing
house
itself.,
perhaps
we're
taken
from
a
loop,
perhaps
we're
taken
from
a
loop
a
little
bit
on
this.
a
little
bit
on
this.,
normally
we're
looking
at
normally
we're
looking
at
properties
and
projects
that
properties
and
projects
that
have
a
certain
delicateness
to
have
a
certain
delicateness
to
it.
it..
Here
the
existing
house
is.
B
B
B
B
B
It
will
do
a
tremendous
amount
of
screening
from
the
general
of
screening
from
the
general
public
for
a
lot
of
the
material
public
for
a
lot
of
the
material
that
we
see
here
happening
on
that
we
see
here
happening
on
the
ground,
floor.
the
ground
floor.,
so
basically
we're
looking
at
so
basically
we're
looking
at
some
respect,.
These
two
silver.
B
C
A
Stephen
sutton:,
I
kind
of
like
it.
it..
I
think
it's
nice.,
I
think
it's
nice.
stephen
sutton:.
There
is
a
stephen
sutton:.
There
is
a
neatness
to
it.
neatness
to
it.
it's
clean.,
it's
clean.,
zachary
greco:,
I'd
like
to
say
zachary,
greco:,
I'd
like
to
say
overall,,
it's
nice
to
see
not
overall,,
it's
nice
to
see
not
only
the
drawings
and
details.
A
D
D
Presented
at
this
public
hearing
at
arc20-96
for
the
property
at
arc20-96
for
the
property
located
at
6002
north
central
located
at
6002
north
central
avenue,
because
based
upon
the
avenue,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
finding
of
fact,,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights.
Historic
seminole
heights.
A
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
A
H
H
H
H
H
H
I
said,
that
was
a
custom
house..
I
can't
just
redesign
that
I
can't
just
redesign
that
house,,
but
I
said
I'll
talk
to
house,,
but
I
said
I'll
talk
to
the
owners
and
so
the
owners,
the
owners,
and
so
the
owners
were
open
to
that
as
long
as
it
were
open
to
that.
As
long
as
it
wasn't
built
in
seminole
heights
wasn't
built
in
seminole
heights,
where
the
other
house
is.,
where
the
other
house
is.
this,
is
similar
to
that
one..
This
is
similar
to
that
one..
H
H
Some
of
the
details
were
sort
of
modifying
to
fit
tampa
heights,
a
modifying
to
fit
tampa
heights
a
little
better.
little
better.
for
example,,
the
other
one
was
for
example,,
the
other
one
was
more
arts
and
crafts
and
had
the
more
arts
and
crafts
and
had
the
flared,
skirt
and
heavy
water
flared
skirt
and
heavy
water
table.
table.
that
was
taken
out
and
we're
that
was
taken
out
and
we're
doing
corner
boards
and
things
doing
corner
boards
and
things
like
that.
H
like
that.,
instead
of
having
the
heavy
instead
of
having
the
heavy
craftsman
columns,
we're
doing
craftsman,
columns,
we're
doing
multiple,
smaller
columns.,
multiple,
smaller
columns..
So
little
details
like
that,
but
so
little
details
like
that,
but
they
loved
the
overall
house
and
they
loved
the
overall
house
and
the
layout.
the
layout..
They
even
went
to
go
visit
the
they
even
went
to
go
visit
the
house.
So
that
was
really
good.
H
H
H
H
H
We'll
to
the
concrete
ribbons
to
a
port
cochere.,
a
port
cochere.,
the
house-
pretty
much
goes
from
the
house.
Pretty
much
goes
from
setback
to
setback,,
but
we
setback
to
setback,,
but
we
justified
it
to
this
southern
justified
it
to
this
southern
property
line,
here.
property
line
here..
This
is
where
all
the
mechanical.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
To
sort
of
work
around
with
this
house.
house.,
the
last
thing
I'll
mention
is
the
last
thing
I'll
mention
is:
we
have
the
scored,
brick
--
or
we
have
the
scored,
brick
--
or
scored
concrete
sidewalk
that
scored
concrete
sidewalk
that
comes
up
and
then
flairs
out
at
comes
up
and
then
flairs
out
at
the
end,
to
welcome
walls
on
the
end
to
welcome
walls
on
either
side
of
the
columns
which.
H
H
H
These
are
two-feet
square
column
bases
with
three
6x6
columns
on
bases
with
three
6x6
columns
on
each
corner,.
Then
two
in
the
each
corner,,
then
two
in
the
middle.
middle.,
one
of
the
nice
things
about
one
of
the
nice
things
about
doing
this.
Is,,
you
know,
you
doing
this
is,,
you
know,,
you
always
want
your
column.
To
line
always
want
your
column,
to
line
on
your
beam.
H
H
H
The
back
off
the
back
porch
and
then
this
is
that
side
that
we
then
this
is
that
side
that
we
talked
about
before
we
had
a
talked
about
before
we
had
a
smaller
opening,
here.
smaller
opening
here.,
but
we
--
they
wanted
it
more,
but
we
--
they
wanted
it
more
open.
So
we
have
some
steps
and
open.
So
we
have
some
steps
and
some
benches
on
the
other
side,
some
benches
on
the
other
side,
that
open
into
the
utility
room.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
So
we
reconfigured
that
and
the
master
bath
was
reconfigured
as
master
bath
was
reconfigured
as
well.
well.,
you
see
the
roof
or
the
porch,
you
see
the
roof
or
the
porch
delow.
delow..
You
have
a
gable
--
front
facing
you,
have
a
gable
--
front
facing
gable
here,
a
side
facing
gable
gable,
here,
a
side
facing
gable
for
the
port
cochere,
which
is.
H
House.
so
on
the
elevations
we'll
have
brick
piers,
24
inch,
we'll
have
brick
piers,
24
inch
and
the
6x6
columns.,
and
the
6x6
columns.
they're
tall
and
skinny,
because
they're
tall
and
skinny,
because
they
wanted
10-foot
ceilings
on
they
wanted
10-foot
ceilings
on
the
inside.,
the
inside..
We
have
the
little
horizontal.
H
H
H
H
Have
five
feet.,
that's
very
common
in
tampa,
that's
very
common
in
tampa
heights.
heights.!
I
think
it's
more
common
in.
I
think
it's
more
common
in
tampa
heights
than
seminole
and
tampa
heights
than
seminole
and
hyde
park.
hyde,
park..
Also
with
this
house,
we're
also
with
this
house
we're
having
corner
boards.
having
corner
boards.
the
other
house.
We
didn't
have
the
other
house,
we
didn't
have
corner
boards
and
we
had
a.
H
H
H
H
H
I
have
some
pictures
of
those.
so
on
the
rear
of
the
house,,
so
on
the
rear
of
the
house,.
This
little
bump-out
here,
which
this
little
bump-out
here,
which
you
saw
in
the
floor
plan,
is
you
saw
in
the
floor
plan,
is
where
the
little
study
nook
it.,
where
the
little
study
nook
it.
it's
a
little
added
detail
to
it's
a
little
added
detail
to
the
rear
of
the
house.,
the
rear
of
the
house..
It
has
a
simple
shed
roof
with.
H
It
has
a
simple
shed
roof
with
the
metal
roof
and
then
you
have
the
metal
roof,
and
then
you
have
the
lower
porch
roof,
below.
the
lower
porch,
roof
below.
and
then
on
the
porch
you
have
and
then
on
the
porch.
You
have
the
6x6
columns
just
the
same
as
the
6x6
columns
just
the
same
as
in
the
front,
but
they
continue
in
the
front,
but
they
continue
down
to
a
concrete
slab
that
we.
H
H
Then
we'll
have
the
brick
skirting
that
will
match
the
skirting
that
will
match
the
brick
on
the
port,
cochere
brick
on
the
port,
cochere
columns.
columns.
pause.
We
have
the
pause.
We
have
the
horizont
--,
because
we
have
the
horizont
--,
because
we
have
the
horizontal
sitting
rails,
they
horizontal
sitting
rails,.
They
need
a
little
support
in
the
need.
A
little
support
in
the
middle.
middle.
we're
picking
up
something
we're
picking
up
something.
That's
similar
to
the
columns,
that's
similar
to
the
columns
for
that,
and
then
just
a
simple.
H
H
H
of
encasements
single
homes.,
and
then
these
are
a
little
bit
and
then
these
are
a
little
bit.
Different.
different.!
These
are
french
casements.
So
we
these
are
french
casements,
so
we
don't
have
to
have
--
they're.
Don't
have
to
have
--
they're
better
for
egress.
better
for
egress.
you
get
a
nicer
proportion.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
I
try
to
get
things
to
line
up
whenever
possible.,
whenever
possible.,
it's
a
good
design,
practice.,
it's
a
good
design,
practice.
anyway.
anyway.,
that's
the
porch.,
that's
the
porch.,
then
the
wood
floor
for
the
then
the
wood
floor
for
the
porch.
porch..
Then
the
typical
wall
section
is
then
the
typical
wall
section
is
this
house
is
going
to
be
on
this
house
is
going
to
be
on
piers.
piers..
The
other
was
a
continuous
stem.
H
The
other
was
a
continuous
stem
wall.
wall.
we'll
have
our
foundation
we'll
have
our
foundation
enclosures,
which
is
basically
enclosures,
which
is
basically
just
a
wood
lattice.,
just
a
wood
lattice..
It
won't
be
the
diagonal.
It
won't
be
the
diagonal
lattice.
lattice..
It
will
be
the
vertical
shown
on.
H
H
H
That
allows
us
to
sort
of
pivot
it
off
the
top
plate
and
we
can
it
off
the
top
plate
and
we
can
add
three-quarter
inch.
Soffit,
add
three-quarter
inch
soffit
here
and
then
it
continues
on
here
and
then
it
continues
on
top.
So
you
have
a
thicker
nail
top,
so
you
have
a
thicker
nail
as
far
as
the
finished
roof
deck
as
far
as
the
finished
roof
deck
and
then
plum,
cut,
rafter,
tails.
H
H
H
H
H
in
elevation
here..
The
last
section
here
is
the
the
last
section
here
is
the
rear,
porch
section.
rear,
porch
section.,
this
sort
of
shows,
what's
this
sort
of
shows,
what's
happening
at
the
gable.
happening
at
the
gable.?
Again,
you
have
the
bands.
Where
again
you
have
the
bands
where
this
is
the
vent
and
then
the.
H
H
H
H
H
I
had
to
break
this
to
get
to
the
sheet,
so
the
vertical
scale,
the
sheet,
so
the
vertical
scale
is
a
little
bit.
Off.
is
a
little
bit
off..
It's
ten
feet.,
it's
ten
feet.,
first
floor..
First
floor.
then
eight
feet
for
the
second,
then
eight
feet
for
the
second
floor.
floor..
The
last
thing
here
is:
we
have.
H
The
last
thing
here
is:
we
have
concrete.
concrete.,
they
wanted
concrete
and
not.
They
wanted
concrete
and
not
wood
on
the
back.
So
it's
a
lot
wood
on
the
back.
So
it's
a
lot
more
durable
and
also
it's
more
durable
and
also
it's
western
exposure.
western
exposure..
So
it
gets
a
lot
more
sun.
So
we
so
it
gets
a
lot
more
sun.
So
we
did
that
and
then
--,
but
then
we
did
that
and
then
--.
But
then
we
<u>ork
it
out
where
we
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H
H
I
have
some
pictures
here..
This
is
probably
not
a
good.
This
is
probably
not
a
good
example
because
of
the
way
they
example
because
of
the
way
they
painted
the
columns,,
but
this
is
painted
the
columns,.
But
this
is
a
house
in
seminole
heights,
a
house
in
seminole
heights,
where
it's
actually
three,
where
it's
actually
three
columns,,
but
they
--,
I
think
columns,,
but
they
--.
I
think
they
came
in
after
the
fact
and
they
came
in
after
the
fact
and
panalized
them,
so
they
don't
panalized
them.
So
they
don't
look.
H
H
We
have
the
--
in
this
case.
We
have
another
pier
here
with
the
have
another
pier
here
with
the
columns
which
is
different.
columns,
which
is
different.
it
lines
up
with
the
rhythm
of
it
lines
up
with
the
rhythm
of
the
brackets
here,
and
then
you,
the
brackets
here
and
then
you
see
how
the
gable
ends
and
the
see
how
the
gable
ends
and
the
rafter
tails
sort
of
all
work.
H
Then
here
is
another
view
of
the
house,
so
you
see
this
corner,
house,
so
you
see
this
corner,,
how
the
roof
sort
of
resolves,
how
the
roof
sort
of
resolves,
themself.
themself..
This
is
like
the
ridge
for
the
this
is
like
the
ridge
for
the
first
floor
and
then
the
upper
first
floor,
and
then
the
upper
ridge,,
but
then,
you
know,,
I
ridge,,
but
then,
you
know,,
I
didn't
want
a
gobble
here.
H
H
This
sort
of
boston,
hip,
detail,
here.,
here.,
all
the
consistent
details,
all
the
consistent
details,
throughout.
throughout.,
we're
not
doing
the
flared
skirt,
we're
not
doing
the
flared
skirt
and
we
have
corner
boards
and
we
have
corner
boards
instead.
instead.,
but
the
window
details
are
the
but
the
window
details
are
the
same.
same.
hyde
park.
Typically
--
I
mean
hyde
park.
Typically
--
I
mean
tampa.
Heights
typically
has
a
tampa.
Heights
typically
has
a
little
more
elaborate
trim.
Little
more
elaborate
trim
around
some
of
the
windows.
H
H
H
H
This
is
what
we're
using
for
the
front
door.
front
door.
it
is,
again,,
with
the
style
of
it
is,
again,,
with
the
style
of
the
house,
even
though
it's
a
the
house,
even
though
it's
a
little
less
arts
and
crafts,
we
little
less
arts
and
crafts,
we
felt
an
arts
and
crafts
style
felt
an
arts
and
crafts
style
door
was
an
appropriate
style,
as
door
was
an
appropriate
style,
as
opposed
to
a
more
generic
opposed
to
a
more
generic
colonial
style,
door.
colonial
style
door..
It
has
a
craftsman
style.
H
H
H
H
H
H
the
door
hardware..
I
think
everybody
wants
ceilings.
I
think
everybody
wants
ceilings
on
the
back
porches.
on
the
back
porches.
we'll
have
ceiling
fans
like
we'll,
have
ceiling
fans
like
that,
and
then
you
can
kind
of
that.
And
then
you
can
kind
of
see
the
rhythm
where
this
is
the
see
the
rhythm
where
this
is
the
dining
porch
here,
and
then
this
dining
porch
here
and
then
this
is
the
porch
off
the
living
room.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
This
is
a
good
example
of
the
windows
and
why
it's
important
windows
and
why
it's
important
to
use
the
right
proportion
trim
to
use
the
right
proportion
trim,
because
this
is
actually
hardy,
because
this
is
actually
hardy,
artisan,
which
is
thicker,
so
you
artisan,
which
is
thicker.
So
you
get
much
more
of
a
reveal
here,
get
much
more
of
a
reveal
here,
which
is
an
important
detail
and
which
is
an
important
detail
and
it
extends
past
and
then
out.
H
H
H
H
H
H
A
I
I
I
I
A
B
D
C
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H
C
A
A
H
H
H
A
H
H
H
I
I
The
way
the
design
guidelines
read
for
the
parking
of
the
read
for
the
parking
of
the
historic
district
is,
it
should
historic
district
is.
It
should
not
be
in
the
front
of
the
not
be
in
the
front
of
the
building
so
really
to
building
so
really
to
determine
--
I'd
have
to
make
determine
--.
I'd
have
to
make
sure
we
sit
down
and
look.
I
I
A
A
I
only
have
one
additional
question.
question.,
it's
maybe
more
of
a
personal.
It's
maybe
more
of
a
personal
kind
of
comment
that
maybe
I
kind
of
comment
that
maybe
I
want
the
commissioners
to
ask,
want
the
commissioners
to
ask
additional
questions
for
as
additional
questions
for
as
well,
if
they
do.
A
A
You
have
the
nooks
that
come
out.
out.,
you
have
sort
of
a
bump
out
on
you
have
sort
of
a
bump
out.
On
the
second
floor,
that's
a
shed
the
second
floor.
That's
a
shed
roof
that
you
described.
roof
that
you
described..
I
understand
where
you're
using
I
understand
where
you're
using
your
hardy
shingles
on
other
your
hardy
shingles
on
other
areas,
sort
of
in
the
top
parts
areas
sort
of
in
the
top
parts
of
your
gables
or
near
the.