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A
Public
hearing
for
the
city
of
tampa's
architectural
review,
commission
welcome
everyone.
My
name
is
zachary
greco,
I'm
the
chair
of
the
commission.
If
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
Commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
A
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details
and
wall
sections
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report.
We
will
then
ask
the
public
for
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
a
presentation,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
go
by
very
quickly,
the
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
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arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
Owners
and
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
If
you
haven't
done
so
already,
please
silence
all
cell
phones
and
at
this
point
I'll
ask
my
commissioners,
starting
on
my
right
to
introduce
themselves.
D
Legal
evening,
commissioners,
I'm
ron
villamp
staff
with
historic
preservation
under
conflicts
of
interest.
In
ex
parte
communication,
mr
pettis
mackel
will
address
the
board.
E
Good
evening
will
any
of
the
commissioners
please
state
on
the
record
whether
or
not
they
have
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda.
E
B
D
C
D
G
Good
evening,
commissioners,
elaine
lund
historic
preservation
staff.
The
application
before
you
tonight
is
for
a
recommendation
for
a
rezoning
request
that
is
to
be
approved
by
city
council.
The
request
is
to
rezone
from
rs
50
to
a
planned
development
to
allow
for
a
detached
single
family,
residential.
G
The
tampa
heights
historic
district
there
it's
in
the
northern
portion
of
the
district,
so
this
is
columbus
drive
here
in
the
middle
and
the
house
is
located
here
between
central
avenue
and
jefferson
street.
You
can
see
that
a
little
bit
better
on
the
present
day,
ariel
here
or
the
property
in
question,
is
shown
in
green
there.
G
So
you
can
see
central
to
the
east
and
jefferson
street
to
the
west.
The
street
approaching
the
parcel
is
central
court
and
south
of
that
is
gladys
street.
You
can
see
the
the
trees
on
the
property
there
as
well,
and
the
slightly
irregular
development
pattern
in
this
area.
G
The
extension
from
what
was
palmetto
street
here
goes
through.
This
was
be
gladys.
Now
you
can
see
it
included
some
properties
on
the
south
side
of
gladys
and
then
the
properties
on
either
side
of
central
court
and
on
the
west
side
of
sorry
on
the
west
side
of
central.
G
G
So
this
is
the
the
1915
sanborn
map
of
this
this
part
of
the
city.
You
can
see
at
that
time
that
there
was
some
pretty
regular
development
going
on
along
morgan
and
jefferson
streets
and
along
elmore
between
michigan,
which
is
now
columbus
and
flora.
Brasca
avenue
the
block
where
this
property
is
located.
G
Excuse
me,
I
had
to
get
the
pen
well
the
parcel
where
this
property,
where
okay,
sorry
the
subject
site,
would
be
about
here
in
this
undeveloped
area.
So
at
this
time
all
of
this,
which
is,
I
believe,
lot
6.
G
There,
the
the
area
along
central
court
was
developed.
G
A
little
bit
slowly,
you
can
see
that
this
is
the
1920s
sanborn
map
and
then,
when
we
move
up
to
1931,
you
can
see
it's
in
about
the
same
condition:
there's
maybe
a
rental
unit
or
two
in
the
in
the
rear
of
this
property.
This
was
sorry.
This
was
originally
2824
central
avenue
and,
of
course,
that
house
is
still
at
that
address.
G
In
the
50s
you
know,
there's
generally
not
too
much
change
along
central
court
and
by
1976
we
do
see
an
additional
house
along
central
court
and
at
1976.
This
was
the
same
year
that
this
central
portion
was
parceled
off
and
sold
separately
from
the
east
and
the
west
sides
of
that
lot.
G
G
G
G
Toward
gladys,
you
can
see,
there's
some
new
construction
here
and
then
there's
the
you
can
see
a
little
bit
of
the
house
that
was
shown
on
the
1976
sanborn
map
there.
G
She
is
the
planner
for
the
pd
request
for
the
rezoning
request,
the
rez
number
that
you
see
in
the
applica
on
the
staff
report
and
she
will
be
able
to
she'll,
be
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
have
about
the
pd
process
after
we
get
the
staff
report
later.
So
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
ask
the
applicant
to
come
forward
and
review
a
site
plan
and
discuss
this
presentation.
A
H
H
H
Resources,
the
tree
resources,
building
fire
transportation,
everybody
we
have
worked
on
this
endlessly
to
get
it
to
this
point,
so
the
property
is
unique
in
its
shape
and
where
the
street
dead
ends
so
doing
the
pd
process.
It
doesn't
that's
why
we're
doing
the
pd
process,
because
it
doesn't
really
follow
the
rs50
zoning
trying
to
keep
trying
to
keep
the
trees
that
are
there
and
follow
the
the
zones
that
we
need
to
stay
away
from
them.
The
garage
is
trying
to
follow
the
rs50
60
foot
rule.
G
Commissioners
in
the
staff
report,
you
will
note
that
there's
quite
a
few,
quite
a
few
standards
to
apply
for
your
review
here.
You
have
the
tampa
heights
design
guidelines.
These
are
the
requirements
for
new
construction
and
additions.
This
is
on
page
three
of
the
staff
report,
so
I've
sort
of
underlined
the
ones
that
are
most
applicable
to
the
sort
of
recommendation
we'll
be
making.
G
So
in
a
case
like
this
you're,
only
looking
at
the
site
plan
and
the
the
scale
massing
and
building
form,
setback,
orientation
and
site
coverage
and
alignment
rhythm
and
spacing
are
the
most
applicable
to
this
request.
G
G
National
park
service
issued
in
2017
some
additional
guidelines
for
the
treatment
of
historic
properties,
and
this
includes
a
section
on
the
guidelines
for
rehabilitating
historic
buildings.
So
I
included
this,
even
though
this
is
not.
This
isn't
part
of
what
you
typically
see
when
we
review
something
like
like
ad
valorem
applications.
These
are
updated
but
they're
not
from
the
same
they're,
not
from
the
same
exact
document
or
same
exact
portion
of
the
federal
code
that
we
normally
look
at
for
ad
valorems.
G
So
this
elaborates
a
lot
more
on
the
guidelines
and
recommendations
here,
so
the
you'll
see
that
they
have
some
recommended
and
not
recommended
guidelines
for
new
construction
and
additions
when
you're
talking
about
the
setting
and
then
there's
also
a
section
about
related
new
construction,
new
exterior
additions
and
related
new
construction
on
below
that,
I'm
talking
about
you
know
the
additions
and
new
construction,
and
this
elaborates
more
on
cases
like
this
that
are
within
a
historic
district
or
neighborhood.
G
G
I'm
going
to
put
the
the
ariel
back
up
so
there's
already
a
parcel
here,
which
just
means
that
it
had
been
sold
off
separately
from
the
rest
of
the
or
the
other
two
parcels
other
two
original
parcels,
but
it's
not
really
a
buildable
lot
and
that's
what
makes
it
unique
in
this
case,
the
you
know.
Subject
parcel
only
has
15
feet
of
frontage
on
central
court
in
the
rs
50
zoning
district.
G
550
500
frontage
is
required
so
under
under
the
existing
zoning
category.
This
lot
would
not
be
buildable.
The
proposed
pd
establishes
a
new
zoning
lot,
which
makes
it
a
buildable
lot
for
the
residential
single
family,
detached
dwelling
unit
and
the
one
garage
or
accessory
structure,
and
please
the
applicant,
showed
you
where
the
access
easement
is
and
there's
also
a
turnaround
for
the
for
cars
that
reach
the
end
of
the
road
and
realize
they
cannot
go
forward
anymore,
because
it's
not
public
property.
G
So
the
street,
I
believe,
as
currently
paved,
is
20
about
20
feet
of
pavement
and
then
the
that
leaves
about
a
little
bit
on
either
side.
There's
a
30
foot
right
away.
There.
G
So,
given
the
unusual
placement
of
this
parcel
and
it's
unusual
relation
to
the
the
street,
we
found
it,
you
know
the
pd
route
to
be
the
most
appropriate
for.
G
For
the
applicant
to
pursue
also
several
of
the
recommendations
and
guidelines
that
were
are
found
in
the
secretary
of
the
interiors
guidelines
for
rehabilitating
historic
buildings
speak
to
designing.
G
A
Thank
you
very
much
at
this
point.
We
will
open
the
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
Please
remember:
the
public
is
allowed
three
minutes
unless
there
is
additional
time
given.
If
you
do
wish
to
speak
on
this,
what
I
would
ask
is
to
line
up.
We
do
have
two
spots,
one
on
either
end
and
that
way,
we'll
rotate
back
and
forth.
E
I
I
I
The
guidelines
are
particularly
strong
new
construction
and
when
you're
blending
new
with
old
the
most
important
is
the
site,
the
setbacks
they
ask
that
they
be,
in
conformance
with
what
is
existing.
The
guidelines
also
go
on
to
say
that
it
is
not
permissible
to
do
certain
things
and
that
is
to
place
buildings
in
greatly
different
positions
than
the
adjacent
sites
in
order
to
place
parking
in
the
front
yards.
If
we
go
to
the
site
plan,
you
will
see
how
dramatically
different
this
site
plan.
Is
it's
almost
like
they're
pushing?
I
I
I
In
addition
to
tearing
up
the
tampa
heights
design
guidelines,
this
site
plan,
this
rezoning
shreds
the
standard
zoning
for
accessory
structures
for
the
all
residential
districts
in
tampa.
They
require
that
the
accessory
structures
be
60
feet
from
the
front
property
line.
It
seems
that
perhaps
the
house
and
the
garage
should
change
places,
look
at
the
garage,
it's
oversized
21
feet
from
the
property
line
and
tons
of
parking.
I
If
we
go
to
the
1951
sanborn,
you
see
the
prevailing
in
the
neighborhood
central
court
has
houses
with
are
set
back
consistently
12
to
20
feet
from
the
front.
You
can
see
all
the
houses
around
are
evenly
spaced
and
notice.
Please
all
accessory
structures
are
behind
the
front
property
line.
This
is
important
when
the
easement
is
granted
to
create
this
built.
Make
this
a
buildable
lot.
I
It
will
be
no
different
than
many
others
in
the
town
in
the
neighborhood.
As
you
can
see,
it
can
be
built
to
rs-50
zoning.
The
green
shows
that
this
lot
is
not
unique.
There
are
many
interior,
several
interior
lots
that
can
be
redeveloped
to
meet
rs,
50,
zoning
and
buildable.
If
they
have
street
access
it
isn't
there
is
nothing
unique
about
the
conditions
or
situations
here.
We
also
have
trees.
We
are
a
verdant
neighborhood.
You
know
this.
You
review
plans
all
the
time,
including
the
house,
at
2802
central
court.
I
We
ask
that
you
understand.
You
know
that
there
are
many
ways
to
accommodate
trees
and
that
is
through
changing
plants
through
structurals
and
also
working
on
the
trees.
All
we're
asking
is
that
you,
this
is
not
complicated.
Please
advance
the
site
plan.
According
to
your
tampa
heights
design
guidelines,
the
other
city
codes.
Thank
you.
J
J
In
fact,
I've
been
in
tampa
heights
since
2005
and
I've
seen
it
stall
out
and
come
back
again
and
move
forward,
and
I
really
love
to
have
you
as
a
neighbor
and
I've
seen
your
house
plan
looks
nice
but
again
you're
you're,.
J
It
is
somewhat
of
a
unique
property
in
the
sense
that
it
is
landlocked,
but
even
if
we
push
it
to
public
development
and
make
it
a
pd
instead
of
within
the
rrc
we
have
read,
the
rules
is
you're
still
supposed
to
look
at
the
historical
district
around
it
and
stay
with
as
much
as
possible.
J
J
However,
I
think
there's
enough
room
to
move
it
around.
As
it
possibly
looks
now,
you
could
place
us
out
in
out
in
west
chase
or
new
tampa.
I
see
a
little
fountain,
maybe
in
front
of
the
garage.
You
know
a
little
circle
coming
around.
That's
not
what
tap
heights
is
so
again.
If
you
could
move
the
property
around,
so
the
house
and
the
garage
is
in
the
back.
The
house
is
up
front
and
usually
I'm
here.
J
A
A
B
B
B
H
H
Yes,
so
again,
I
use
the
term.
It
is
a
little
unique,
even
though
somebody
says
it,
it's
not
it's
that's
what
they're
calling
the
frontage
okay.
So,
even
though
it's
not
the
front,
I
know
that
is
legally
the
front
on
the
right,
but
the
west
side,
the
north
side
and
the
east
side
are
all
somebody's
backyards.
H
So,
by
setting
the
garage,
there
is
no
different
than
two
lots
that
are
backed
up
to
each
other
and
again
we're
keeping
it
60
feet
away.
As
far
as
the
parking
the
city
made
me
put
those
red
squares
on
there,
showing
you
parking
spaces,
I
have
no
intention
of
parking
three
cars
in
front
of
my
house.
That's
the
reason
I
want
a
three-car
garage
so
that
I
can
put
them
in
the
garage.
B
H
B
The
structures
where
the
red
spaces
are
is
the
garage
and.
H
B
Okay
and
the
situation
with
the
trees
is
that,
where
these
well.
H
J
H
Are
the
zones
that
they
want
me
to
stay
away
from
them?
So
I
only
have
that's
my
only
access
with
a
driveway,
you
know
if
I
were
to
put
the
garage
in
the
back
now
I
have
to
put
a
driveway
all
the
way
around
the
house
all
the
way.
In
the
back
I
mean
I'm
probably
going
to
go
over
what
the
lot
coverage
would
would
be
and
then
also
it
you
know
I
would
like
to
possibly
someday
have
a
pool.
H
So
if
I
put
the
garage
back
there
now,
I
can't
put
a
pool
in
because
I
have
the
zone
around
the
other
tree
in
the
corner.
Okay,
I
mean
I
have
laid
this
out
many
many
times
in
many
different
ways
and
again
with
with
the
cities,
with
the
city's
help
every
department
at
the
city,
building
natural
resources,
transportation,
all
of
them.
B
C
E
C
I
guess
I
do
what
is
this,
so
the
setback
of
your
house,
as
shown
is
60
something.
How
does
that?
What
is
the
relationship
of
the
61
feet
to
the
neighbors
to
the
south
or
the
other
neighbors
on
the
street?.
H
The
next
one
south
of
that
is
probably
whatever
the
25
to
30
standard
is,
but
you
can
also
add
the
15
feet
of
where
the
driveway
is
to
to
this
lot.
So
if
I
were
to
line
up
with
that,
other
house,
that's
being
built,
I'd
be
like
40
feet
back
so
again.
That
would
push
me
right
up
against
the
limit
on
that
tree
that
I
have
to
stay
away
from
and
then
again
the
garage
was
laid
out
to
be
10
feet
away
from
the
house,
as
the
guidelines
require.
C
Yeah,
that
is
something
that
we
typically
consider
as
far
as
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
F
F
So
there's
a
letter
that's
been
entered
into
the
record
that
states
that
a
mr
cotton
with
the
city
who's
the
zoning
supervisor
in
november
of
last
year
stated
that
although
we
we
could
approve
the
pd
zoning,
it
did
not
have
to
include
a
building
layout
plan
so
that
that
brings
into
question
whether
or
not
we
are
truly
locking
in
this
site
plan.
If
we
approve
the
pd.
A
Well,
once
the
pd
has
been
approved
by
the
city
council,
my
understanding,
maybe
staff,
can
clarify
on
this
once
the
pd
has
been
approved
when
it
comes
back
to
us
to
review
for
certificate
of
appropriateness.
We're
not
going
to
look
at
where
that
building
sits,
it's
more
of
the
details
and
where
everything
is.
K
K
H
No,
they
were
not
and
again
I've
gone
through
this
for
five
months
I
paid
to
go.
Do
the
pd
process,
no
one
has
ever
told
me.
I
had
to
be
to
be
here
to
present
this
to
you,
or
else
I
would
have
worked
up
something
else
if
I
could-
or
if
you
had
told
me
no
in
the
beginning
of
the
process
before
you
know,
I've
spent
four
thousand
dollars.
I
paid
to
go
to
that
meeting.
It's
three
thousand
dollar
application
and
they've
approved
it,
and
it's
supposed
to
get
its
second
approval
next
week.
H
F
A
H
Yes,
which,
again
I
was
trying
to
avoid
so
that
we
could
possibly
save
room
for
a
pool,
okay
and
and
also
again
the
driveway
going.
I
only
have
the
one
entrance.
So
if
I
go,
if
I
move
the
house
forward,
I
now
have
to
go
around
around
the
house
to
the
back
and
then
you
know,
obviously
create
a
driveway
to
get
into
each
bay
of
the
garage
which
can
be
done.
But
again,
I'd
have
to
do
the
math,
because
I
don't
want
to
go
over
the
lot
coverage
either.
Creating
that
much
more
driveway.
A
H
B
H
H
H
H
A
A
F
I
think
the
potential
owner
was
led,
misled
and
was
not
given
due
process,
and
I
find
it
very
very
disconcerting
to
hear
that
we're
out
of
sequence-
and
here
he
is
at
the
end
of
a
long
journey
in
his
mind-
and
you
know
he
this
seems
to
be
the
the
court-
the
cart
before
the
horse
scenario,
and
I'm
very
sorry
for
that.
F
C
I
understand,
based
upon
the
15-foot
frontage
and
requiring
a
50-foot
frontage
for
the
rezoning.
What
I'm
struggling
with
is
approving
or
making
the
recommendation
for
this
to
move
forward
is
locking
us
into
this
site
plan,
which
I'm
a
little
uncomfortable
with
for
a
number
of
reasons.
I
can't,
based
on
the
presentation
that
we've
been
given,
clearly
understand
the
relation
of
this
new,
these
two
new
structures
with
the
adjacent
structures
or
the
structures
of
the
surrounding
area,
as
well
as
the
the
content
sort
of
of
the
two
houses.
C
We
typically
don't
approve
three-car
garages
facing
the
main
street.
It's
a
large
accessory
structure
with
we
just
don't
have
a
lot
of
details.
I
also
am
sorry
that
that
might
not
have
been
relayed
to
you
up
to
this
point.
I
feel
badly
for
that.
It's
I'm
just
I'm
uncomfortable
with
locking
us
into
the
site
plan.
I.
F
F
The
way
that
one
moves
about
a
community
such
as
this
there's
a
certain
sensibility
and
there's
a
language
and
there's
it's
it's
when
you
sign
on
the
diet
online
in
one
of
these
communities,
you
understand
that
those
guidelines
exist
and
there's
a
reason
for
them
and
there's
just
too
many
things
with
us
being
held
accountable
for
the
site
plan.
We
were
given
today
to
consider
to
honor.
J
A
I'm
struggling
a
bit
on
the
the
notion
that
this
is
probably
one
of
those
slots
in
this
district
or
possibly
most
districts,
where
you
know
we're
looking
at
it
as
if
we
had
a
road
and
access
off
the
front
in
reality,
we're
coming
off
the
side
so
similar
to
what
you
maybe
would
see
in
a
corner
lot.
But
then
you
don't
have
an
access
road
on
two
frontages.
A
It's
just
on
a
side
with
those
tree
locations,
one
on
the
the
south
near
the
the
entrance
and
then
the
one
that's
right
along
the
property
edge
on
the
east,
even
if
you
were
to
bring
the
building
as
close
as
you
could
to
the
front
to
be
in
line
with
the
properties.
Next
to
it.
A
F
I
feel
like
we
don't
have
enough
information
for
us
to
make
a
case
really
against
her
for
it.
I
would
love
to
hear
about
the
the
life
of
the
age
of
the
trees
and
the
state
of
their
condition.
They're
laurel
or
oaks
not
live
oaks,
so
they
have
a
different
life
expectancy.
They
seem
quite
large
already
and
then
other
than
that.
I
I
feel
like
with
some
of
the
misgivings
of
the
surrounding
residents.
I
think
there
are
some
voices
we
need
to
consider
in
terms
of
their
investment
into
the
community
as
well.
A
So
my
only
question
would
be:
is
the
trees
I
guess
is
maybe
outside
of
my
knowledge
but
the
voices
from
the
neighbors.
They
did
have
the
opportunity
to
come
either
tonight
to
speak,
so
they
did
have
that
opportunity
great.
I
understand
the
idea
and
the
notion
that
there
are
other
placements
of
where
the
building
could
go
on
the
site
with
the
house
and
the
behind
it,
but
I
think
we
would
all
tend
to
agree
that
rezoning
from
an
rs50
to
a
pd
is
probably.
A
Going
to
have
to
happen
in
order
for
this
lot
to
be
done,
we
do
have
an
option
to
look
at
conditions
and
maybe
we'd
have
to
look
at
this
and
have
legal
input.
But
there
are
options
where
you
could
make
conditions
to
have
a
garage
place
behind
the
house,
or
do
we
feel
as
a
committee
that
we
want
to
continue
and
kind
of
see
more.
C
J
D
A
E
E
B
F
J
E
Well,
it's
not
within
your
purview
to
explain
what
the
next
process
is
you
what's
before,
you
is
to
make
a
recommendation
whether
or
not
you
know
to
move
to
present
move
forward
to
city
council
staff
can
certainly
talk
to
the
advocate
about
what
the
next
step
moving
forward
is,
but
that's
not
what
we're
here,
what
the
board,
what
the
commission
is
here
for,
if
you
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
reopen
the
hearing
to
allow
the
applicant
to
you,
know,
make
a
motion
to
allow
them
to
have
more
time
to
speak.
A
B
Okay,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
reopen
the
hearing
and
allow
him
rebuttal
time.
H
Need
that
much
all
I
wanted
to
say
was
I've
gone
through
the
pd
process?
They've
approved
it
okay,
so
you
guys
are
saying
we
might
not
be
able
to
build
the
house
the
way
we
want
to
here.
What
I'm
asking
you
is
to
approve
it
to
approve
the
pd,
because
if
I
have
to
redesign
this
and
redo
it,
I'm
not
gonna.
My
second
meeting
is
next
thursday.
H
So
what
I'm
saying
is
approve
the
pd
with,
as
you
said,
conditions
for
me
to
go
back
and
work
rework
the
site,
so
I
don't
have
to
go
through
the
pd
process
again,
so
I
don't
have
to
develop
if
I
develop
a
whole
new
site
plan,
I'm
going
to
have
to
go
back
to
that
meeting
again
and
I
certainly
don't
want
to
pay.
I
don't
want
to
wait
another
four
months.
H
If
you
can
improve
the
pd
process,
make
it
a
buildable
lot.
I
will
work
with
you
guys,
as
you
said,
I
should
have
been
told
four
months
ago
to
figure
out
how
to
make
this
lot
work
and
you,
I
think
you
all
agree
that
it
works
in
one
way
or
another.
We
can
make
something
work
on
there,
so
there's
no
reason
not
to
approve
it
as
a
buildable
lot.
That's
all
I'm
asking
for
today,
because
you're
obviously
not
going
to
approve
the
site
plan
as
it
is
thanks.
Thank.
G
A
F
K
City
attorney,
would
you
like
me
to
answer
that?
Yes,
okay,
thank
you,
mary
san,
diego.
Yes,
you
can
certainly
make
recommendations
based
again,
as
your
staff
indicated
on
the
secretary
secretary
of
interior
standards,
of
what
you
are
to
consider,
so
you
could
make
recommendations
as
to
setbacks
that
could
be
increased
again.
K
As
far
as
the
pd
is
concerned,
the
garage
and
the
house
could
be
anywhere
within
the
building
setbacks,
so
the
site
could
be
manipulated
or
massaged
rather,
to
kind
of
adjust
the
placement
of
the
garage
and
the
house
within
the
building
setbacks
that
could
be
increased
and
that
could
be
a
condition
of
the
pd
that
that
would
have
to
come
back
through
arc
through
the
normal
certificate
of
appropriate
process,
so
really
you're
creating
the
building
envelope.
The
building
envelope
could
be
increased.
K
Correct
also,
if
I
may,
if
there
are
any
other
specific
questions,
you
have
that
you
know
that
there
was
testimony
given
that
there's
like
uncertainty
about
what
they're
proposing
or
their
questions
that
you
might
have.
I
have
the
site
plan
and
I
have
a
full
staff
report.
If
you
have
any
specific
questions
about
the
trees
or
any
other
elements
of
the
site
plan.
K
Mayor
san
diego
again
for
the
record,
all
the
trees
that
were
on
the
site
plan
that
are
within
the
circles,
the
protective
radius
are
required
to
be
preserved.
Okay,
there
they've
been
there's
an
arbors
report,
they've
been
deemed
to
be
preservation
where
they
in
the
natural
resources
department
has
done
two
full
reviews
on
the
site
and
those
trees
must
be
preserved.
Thank
you.
J
So,
if
you're
looking
at
increasing,
for
instance,
a
setback,
you
would
want
to
delineate
the
amount
of
the
increase
that
you're
requesting
and
specify
if
it's
to
the
primary
structure
or
the
accessory
structure.
C
E
Excuse
me,
madam
commissioner,
mr
chair,
did
you
close
the
pub?
I
don't
know
that
you
closed
the
public
hearing.
A
Public
hearing
is
now
closed.
The
commissioners
will
now
discuss
the
case.
C
C
C
J
F
A
A
E
K
So
you
could
say
that
you
want
to
change
between
first
and
second
reading
of
the
pd
ordinance
that
the
square
footage
of
the
accessory
structure
be
reduced
to
that
of
the
rs-75
standards,
which
is
15
of
the
minimum
lot
size
of
5000
square
feet,
which
I
don't
have
a
calculator
on
me.
I
think
that's
right.
K
A
K
For
a
pd
site
plan,
your
the
the
developer
is
creating
their
own
design.
So
that's
part
of
the
aspect
of
a
pd
site
plan
you
get
to
create
your
own
uses
and
you
create
your
own
setbacks
and
height
based
on
the
future
land
use
plan
for
the
city
of
tampa
local
historic
districts
if
you're
in
an
overlay
zone
and
other
applicable
standards.
K
F
F
B
F
B
F
B
F
It
seemed
to
me
that
the
I
mean
it's
very
hard
to
tell
from
just
the
site
plan,
but
it
seemed
to
me
that
the
the
the
size
and
the
at
least
the
planar
massing
of
the
proposed
resonance
structure
was
in
alignment
with
the
surrounding
structures.
At
least
what
we
could
tell
from
the
satellite
imagery
and
the
sandboard.
B
L
C
F
J
M
J
You
think
about
how
you're
going
to
articulate
your
your
motion.
You
may
want
to
condition
that,
to
you
know,
potentially
moving
the
structure
as
far
to
the
east,
that
the
protective
radius
would
allow
or
something
they're.
J
B
E
Motion
and
again
it's
just
for
a
recommendation
to
city
council
and
that
language
is
at
the
bottom.
K
B
I
moved
to
recommend
to
city
council
to
approve
arc
20-402
res
20-50
for
the
property
located
at
sorry,
2820
north
central
court
for
the
proposed
rezoning
from
rs
50
to
pd,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
main
structure
of
the
home
be
moved
as
far
to
the
east
as
possible
as
close
to
that
15
foot
radius
of
the
tree
as
possible
that
the
accessory
structure
be
reduced
to
the
750
square
feet
in
accordance
with
the
rs
50
zoning
requirements,
and
also
that
the
both
structures
just
maintain
the
scale
the
height
and
the
width
and
the
proportions
of
that
new.
A
And
then,
before
I
get
a
second,
I
just
want
to
ask
the
applicant:
do
you
understand
that
the
conditions
how
they
were
stated
and
could
you
come
up
to
the
microphone?
Sorry
just
to
make
sure
we
have
it
for
the
record
and
then
it's
just
simply.
Do
you
understand
the
conditions
and
you
have
any
questions.
H
On
this
I
do
understand
them,
but
some
of
the
things
that
you're
saying
you're
talking
about
that
front
setback
the
house,
that's
under
construction.
The
front
property
line
of
that
does
not
match
the
front
property
line
of
this
property
because
it
dead
ends
at
the
end
of
the
street.
If
you,
if
you
look
at
that
site
plan,
you
can
see
that
we.
A
H
A
D
D
D
D
D
If
you
look
on
jaton,
there's
a
unique
vernacular
and
fabric
that
is
maintained
only
on
this
vicinity.
Here
along
jatan,
there
was
a
builder
in
the
early
1900s
that
chose
to
have
masonry
over
frame
construction,
and
it's
indicated
here
on
the
sanborn
map.
You
know
at
times
I
reference
the
sanborn
map
for
the
accuracy
that
it
has.
D
If
you
look
at
the
structures
along
the
block,
the
majority
of
them
have
red,
which
indicates
brick
or
stucco,
and
then
the
second
story
or
the
pop-up
is
in
frame
that
is
indicated
here
here
here
and
here
and
nowhere
along
or
within
hyde
park.
You
have
that
fabric
that
is
tightly
woven
as
it
is
on
this
block.
D
Here
you
have
the
primary
structure
along
jaton,
with
a
detached
accessory
structure
that
was
approved
by
this
board.
I'd
say
about
a
year
or
two
ago.
Some
of
the
challenges
that
this
parcel
has
is
that
the
placement
of
the
pool,
when
you
looked
at
the
the
accessory
structure,
it
was
a
challenge
to
to
get
a
accessory
structure
of
any
size
in
there
and
then
the
addition
that
they're
doing
here
is
to
the
rear
and
it's
held
to
370
feet.
As
I
indicated.
D
D
D
D
D
D
Once
again,
high-end
craftsman,
home
along
that
block
and
just
to
conclude
a
couple
of
street
shots
showing
that
there
is
parking
along
the
street,
it's
a
wide
street
and
it
has
a
very
nice
canopy
and
then
just
turning
around
in
the
other
direction.
At
this
time,
the
agent
mr
costner,
will
address
the
board.
A
A
M
L
M
Way,
it
is
actually
so.
This
is
the
way
it
is.
Here's
chaton
you're
going
to
have
the
addition
coming
off
the
second
floor,
we're
adding
a
master
bedroom
and
an
extra
bedrooms
and
they've
had
a
couple
more
kids
since
I've
built
the
rear
structure,
so
they
need
more
room
for
kids
and
bathrooms
for
their
daughters.
So
anyway,
it's
mainly
a
second
story.
M
They're
going
to
have
underneath
it's
going
to
be
more
for,
like
lanai
around
the
pool
area
you
can
see,
the
pool
is
pretty
close
to
there,
so
they
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
little
bit
more
shade
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
room
around
the
yard.
M
So
here's
the
existing
and
then
you
can
see
the
second
floor
just
above
here,
because
there
is
a
setback
that
are
all
the
setbacks
are
the
same,
but
the
second
floor
actually
comes
in
a
little
bit
from
the
front
on
the
side
about
two
and
a
half
feet
on
each
side.
So
then
we're
gonna
go
with
the
bottom
floor,
all
the
way
back
so
it'll
be
on
the
back
side.
You
can
see
it's
gonna
be
even
on
both
sides.
We
try
to
get
kind
of
the
column.
Look
on
these
back
ones,
and
these
will
be.
M
M
It
does
show
a
pocket
slider
in
the
back.
I
know
you
all
don't
like
those
a
lot,
but
that
is
what
the
homeowner
really
really
wants,
so
whether
we
do
some
kind
of
figure
out
a
door
for
that,
if
you
guys
don't
like
the
slider
rest
of
everything
else,
stays
the
same.
It'll
be
the
wood
siding
to
match
the
existing
all
the
overhangs.
Everything
will
be
the
tongue
and
groove
on
the
bottom.
You
know
open
rafters,
just
like
you
said.
M
M
I
think
that's
it.
You
guys
want
to
see
any
other
kind
of
pic
existing
versus
the
new.
A
M
So
you
can
see
aside,
this
is
the
back
of
the
house
where
the
pool
is
they
have
like
a
little
lean
to
here.
That's
where
we're
going
to
take
that
roof
off
and
go
straight
up
and
then
continue
over
this.
So
this
will
be.
You
know
bucketed
in
here,
you're
going
to
have
and
come
straight
out
so
that
way
everything
looks
the
same
for
all
the
setbacks
and
there's
no
variances
or
anything.
A
Is
that
are
you
finished?
Okay
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report.
D
D
The
operational
doors
that
he
talked
about
sliders
are
a
condition
that
is
usually
not
supported
by
this
board.
So
we
talked
about
different
solutions
and
if
a
collapsible
wall
system
was
to
be
entertained
that
that
could
be
a
solution.
What
we're
looking
for
is
when
the
doors
are
all
closed,
that
they're
in
the
same
plane.
When
you
have
the
sliders,
you
have
the
jogging
of
of
the
doors
that
are
atypical
in
the
historic
district.
D
The
drawings
currently
show
a
hearty
installation
on
the
primary
house
and
for
the
addition,
I
don't
believe
that's
labeled
correctly.
The
house
has
lap
siding,
which
is
wood
and
if
the
addition
is
to
move
forward
with
the
with
the
siding,
that
should
be
wood
as
well
to
complement
the
primary.
D
House
the
columns
in
the
rear
we
had
been
working
on
until
this
morning,
the
the
columns
that
he
had
were
different,
the
ones
that
were
simulated
to
you
guys
were
different
than
the
ones
that
were
illustrated
this
evening.
I
still
think
that
the
columns
in
the
rear
need
a
little
bit
of
work.
I
think
simplicity
would
probably
work
with
the
columns
if
he
would
just
do
a
column
from
the
from
the
beam
to
to
grade
and
not
have
a
peer
and
column
system.
D
Just
keep
it
simple
and
a
little
more
slender
than
trying
to
match
the
front
column
would
be
the
direction
that
staff
would
have.
Having
said
that
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
at
this
point.
We
will
open
the
hearing
to
any
public
comment,
all
right
scene.
None.
The
commissioners
will
now
ask
questions
starting.
C
Will
you
go
ahead
and
show
your
wall
section
and
the
photos
that
ron
referenced.
K
F
M
For
around
the
doors
in
the
front
by
the
porches,
so
we're
going
to
match
those
here's
a
typical
double-hung,
clad
window
that
we're
using
here's
a
set
of
sliders.
M
You
know
typical
pella
slider,
but
I
mean
that's
what
we're
she
was
wanting
to
use,
but
you
know
we'll
go
for
you
guys
on
what
you
guys
recommend
on
that
and
then
actually
I
have
some
of
the
same
photos
that
he
kind
of
took
from
the
sides
of
the
window,
detail
that
we're
going
to
match
at
the
window
bottom
and
then
here
on
the
door
hardware,
depending
on
what
door
we
get.
M
M
M
M
M
M
On
parts
of
the
house,
most
of
the
house
is
stucco,
but
then
in
the
rear
of
the
house
there
is
areas
where
there
is
siding
and
then
the
back
structure
that
I
just
built
which
isn't
on
here
back
here.
It's
siding
all
the
way
down
the
two-story
garage.
M
Back
right
now
has
siding
all
the
way,
the
back
right
now
by
the
pool
area
and
then
actually
these
little
sides
of
the
existing
on
each
side.
I
took
this
off,
but
where
the
side
is
here
and
here
on,
the
house
right
now
has
siding
and
then
from
that
four
foot
back
all
the
way
to
the
front
of
the
road
and
around
the
front
is
all
stuck
up.
M
A
M
Just
show
what
you
do:
yeah
no
problem,
so
this
is
the
floor
plan
here.
This
is
going
to
be
the
first
floor
and
you
can
see
where
the
beams
and
the
footers
are
going
to
go
and
then
the
pools
you
know
right
here.
So
this
is
going
to
be
that
and
then
here's
the
second
floor,
and
this
is
how
we're
popping
it
out
see.
Here's
the
this
line
is
the
first
fl
the
existing
house
now
of
the
first
floor
and
then
that's
the
second
floor.
M
So
we
just
lined
it
up
with
the
first
floor
to
the
second.
So
that
way
we
can
get
as
much
square
footage,
because
we
can't
we
very
limited
to
go
back
and
then
so
then
that
way
they
can
have
a
master
suite
and
then
we're
just
changing
around
the
bathroom
and
laundry.
So
that
way
again
they
can
have
more
bathrooms
for
kids.
M
M
M
So
you
can
see
right
here.
This
is
actually
part
of
the
kitchen
when
you
go
in
here.
So
when
we
remove
this,
their
kitchen
actually
will
go
up
about
a
foot
and
a
half
two
feet,
because
right
now
it
goes
down
on
an
angle
on
the
inside
of
the
kitchen.
So
now
it'll
be
part
of
the
new
floor,
so
it'll
be
almost
eight
foot
like
normal.
M
M
M
Yeah
yeah,
that
is,
I
mean
that's
right
to
it
even
has
the
outdoor
kitchen
we
got
to
remove
and
stuff
and
pretty
much
where
these
windows
and
this
door
is
that's
going
to
be
all
one
big
door
and
that's
why
she
wanted
to
kind
of
open
it
up.
So
that
way,
it's
right
there
in
the
kitchen,
nice
and
open
door
to
the
pool.
C
Are
you
proposing
three
over
one
windows
or
just
single
pane
windows.
M
Well,
what's
going
to
change
is
if
we
need
to
put
a
window
on
the
side,
I'm
going
to
match
all
the
windows
to
the
side
of
the
house,
because
if
we
put
a
window
there,
then
I
want
that
to
match
the
back.
But
right
now,
if
it's,
the
back
of
the
house,
I'd
like
to
match
the
building
that
we
just
did,
which
is
you
know
clear
over
clear.
M
M
M
F
M
F
In
terms
of
the
the
columns
at
the
rear,
porch,
in
fact
I
I
have-
it
actually
goes-
the
entire
idea
of
a
rear
porch.
M
We
actually
designed
we
had
one
built
just
like
that
across
the
street,
and
it
was
the
same
design
as
kind
of
it
kind
of
came
or
levered
the
driveway
to
get
the
right
square
footage.
I'm
talking
about.
M
F
M
Yeah,
I've
done
a
couple
on
north
boulevard
and
that's
how
it's
almost
like
a
mini.
I
forget
what
you
guys
call
those
things
when
you
drive
through
you
guys
call
us
a
different
name
than
or
whatever
so
that's
kind
of
how
we're
trying
to
give
it
that
design,
because
I
know
there's
a
few
houses
down
in
the
one
I
designed
on
north
boulevard.
That's
the
same
kind
of
style
with
the
tongue
and
groove
underneath
and
finished.
F
M
D
Well,
I
think
removing
the
center
column
will
help
out
the
visibility
and
the
quality
of
life
in
the
back,
but
if
we
could
go
to
the
picture,
that's
that's
on
the
monitor
when
you
incorporate
a
porch
or
or
front
porch
or
rear
porch.
You
usually
have
this
beam
here
that
references
an
open
space.
That's
what
I
was
referring
to
so
this
beam,
and
I
think
that
in
the
drawings
that's
what
he
was
alluding
to
and
then
terminating
into
the
column.
F
M
M
F
So
would
the,
how
would
that
be
be
detailed,
then.
M
F
One
thing:
that's
it's
drawing
me
off
is
the
intent
of
this
addition,
especially
at
the
second
floor,
is
for
it
to
pop
out
a
foot
or
so
on
either
side
of
the
main
structure,
and
then
it
also
has
a
bit
of
relief
above
the
the
existing
roof
line.
Correct
no.
E
F
Understood
so
how
close
are
you
to
the
max
building
height
allowed?
I
think.
F
Okay,
that's
what
I
thought
did
you
consider
raising
it
just
ever
so.
C
Okay,
knowing
that
staff
has
had
the
conversation
with
you
about
the
sliding
doors,
do
you
have
an
alternate
plan
or.
M
A
Did
you
look
at
an
option
to
either
do
what
my
fellow
commissioner
stated
to
where
the
roof
was
either
higher
up
to
allow
that
kind
of
separation
or
look
at
an
option
to
where
it
was
in
line
with
the
existing
roof
to
where
it
all
kind
of
read,
not
only
the
roof
plane
red
is
one,
but
also
the
mass
kind
of
the
exterior
walls.
Red
is
one,
so
those
got
pushed
back
in.
M
A
M
M
N
M
A
Was
there
any
discussions
from
the
exterior
standpoint
is
if
you
kept,
I
understand
that
the
existing
first
floor
has
the
siding
first
question:
is
it
hardy
board
or
is
it
it's
it's
wood,
okay,
so
for
the
second
story,
and
that
would
you
match
the
existing
wood?
Yes,
okay,
did
you
look
at
an
option
for
the
first
floor
to
have
stucco
to
match.
M
A
So
I
understand
the
intent
of
this
was
to
basically
make
a
smaller
version
of
the
columns
in
the
front
kind
of
with
that
reveal
in
the
middle
and
that
banding
staff
didn't
mention.
If
it
was
a
little
bit
more
slender
and
kind
of
went
from
the
beam
to
the
ground,
it
you
know,
might
match
a
little
bit
more
historically.
A
Is
there
any
concerns
about
what
staff
had
presented
from
your
standpoint?
No.
M
C
F
A
B
C
So
there
was
a
question
about
the
final
bracket
solution
that
it
just
hasn't
been
finalized.
Yet
so
that
needs
to
be
financed.
The
applicant
heads
up
there
were
a
couple
of
options
on
the
facade.
Oh.
C
Made
a
final
specification
for
the
brackets
on
the
rear.
Okay,
I
do
think
that
a
window
on
the
right
elevation
would
help
break
the
massing
of
the.
C
F
J
F
The
only
new
is
the
sliders,
yes,
the
big
opening,
okay
alrighty
in
terms
of
materiality,
I
think
if
the
client
would
prefer
stucco
at
the
base,
I
would
encourage
reconsidering
that,
even
though
the
existing
condition
had
the
wood
siding,
there
is
the
you
know
the
the
value
of
the
added
value
for
the
client
for
the
owner
in
terms
of
that
being
a
very
wet
area
and
also
there's
an
opportunity
to
to
knit
that
addition
more
fluidly
with
the
existing
historic
structure.
So
if
that's
an
option
and
the
client
really
would
prefer
that.
F
Other
than
that,
I
do
feel
like
the
roof
line,
for
the
reasons
that
I
stated
before.
I
think
there's
some
architectural
issues,
waterproofing
wise
building
envelope-wise,
as
well
as
just
some
comfort
level
in
terms
of
what
we
like
to
call
breathing
room
between
the
the
new
and
the
existing
ridge
at
the
the
upper
gable.
F
Thank
you,
it
just
doesn't
read.
You
know.
A
I
would
agree,
I
think,
deciding
you
know
it
was
mentioned
before,
but
as
for
microbial
commissioner,
but
the
siding
to
match
the
wood
siding,
that's
on
the
house
should
be
important.
I
would
agree
the
stucco
finish
to
match.
The
existing
first
floor
is
important.
A
I
also
agree
with
the
roof
kind
of
profile
and
edge
making
sure,
especially
if
there's
that
overhang
kind
of
where
it
stops
right
now,
I
think,
will
be
an
issue
and
then
the
only
comment
I
had
was,
if
we
do
add
the
window
to
the
right
side,
just
making
sure
that
it
matches
the
patterns
that
are
adjacent
to
it
on
that
level.
Since
there
are
some
different
window
patterns
throughout
the
house,.
C
A
A
C
M
F
Think
in
either
case
the
transom
would
work
it's
it's
just
that,
especially
on
that
elevation,
the
profile
and
of
the
window
itself.
Whatever
that
unit
is,
has
to
be
very
much
in
keeping
with
the
historic
windows
that
are
there,
and
I
wasn't
quite
sure,
with
the
window
that
we
were
shown
today,
that
that
actually
aligned
with
the
historic
ones.
C
But
the
addition
roofline
is
raised
to
accommodate
rain
runoff
and
distinguish
from
the
existing
structure
that
the
first
floor
addition
is
stucco
to
match
the
existing
structure
and
that
a
wall
section
at
the
porch
is
approved
by
staff,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
effect
proposed
project,
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park,
design.
Guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa.
For
the
following
reasons
that
the
materials
massing
and
trim
details
are
consistent.
C
B
A
G
G
G
It's
our
map
of
the
seminole
heights,
historic
district.
You
can
see
this
subject
property
here
in
green
hillsborough
avenue
is
about
right
here,
where
my
pen
is.
G
G
You
can
see
the
this
is
the
existing
house
and
the
accessory
structure
in
the
same
location
where
it
is
today.
G
G
G
Structure,
this
is
looking
at
its
north
elevations.
You
can
see
the
port
gaucher
there's
a
little
bit
of
banding
along
the
defining
the
the
porch
wall
and
just
beyond
the
gate
back
here,
you
can
make
out
a
little
bit
of
the
accessory
structure,
so
you
can
see
that
the
accessory
structure
has
the
same
sort
of
parapet.
Stepping
that
the
primary
house
does
is
the
south
side
of
the
primary
structure.
G
G
G
N
The
request
is
for
an
accessory
structure
this.
Actually
zoning
is
requested
that
we
use
the
the
language
an
accessory
structure
with
additional
living
space.
It's
not
there's
a
couple
other
versions
of
this,
but
that's
what
they've
asked
us
to
do
here.
N
The
location
of
the
the
structure
is
at
the
rear
of
the
site.
It's
completely
fenced
in,
and
it's
going
to
be
attached
to
the
existing
accessory
structure.
That's
been
there.
It's
been
historically
there
with
the
existing
house,
we
have
adequate
parking
and
all
of
the
finishes
on
the
exterior
are
going
to
match
the
primary.
J
N
I'd
like
to
just
put
my
site
plan
up
here,
real
quick
and
there
we
go.
I
think,
that's
probably
the
appropriate
orientation.
The
the
structure
is,
is
gonna
have
a
parapet
wall
stucco
in
in
three
or
four
over
one
windows
to
match
the
existing
house.
It's
a
one
room
suite
with
a
bedroom,
a
walk-in
closet
and
a
bathroom,
and
so
it's
got
a
little
pullman
or
shotgun
kitchen
that
goes
with
it
with
a
bar
top.
N
So
it's
the
the
use
is
going
to
be
for
an
in-law
suite
for
my
client's
mother,
and
so
it's
it's
designed
to
be
basically
a
mini-me
of
the
primary
house
and
I'm
going
to
show
you
some
of
the
this
is
the
the
elevation
of
the
excuse
me.
N
This
is
the
elevation
of
it.
Looking
from
the
back
of
the
existing
house
towards
the
cottage
and
the
the
two
bay
existing
garage
doors
that
you
see
here
are
existing,
you
can
see
the
parapet
wall.
We're
gonna,
follow
the
same
line
of
the
the
parapet
on
the
garage
with
the
front
porch,
and
then
we're
going
to
step
the
parapet
wall
up
on
the
primary
structure
as
it
moves
back.
N
N
Residence
again
slightly
narrower
windows,
but
again
the
three
over
one
windows.
I
think
staff
had
asked
us
to
remove
a
band
off
of
the
front
and
show
you
guys
some
some
of
the
particular
details
of
the
structure,
but
I'll
wait
until
you've
requested
those
individually.
You
know
lights,
hardware
and
window
details.
G
Commissioner
staff
found
that
this
application
was
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
design
guidelines,
most
of
the
conditions
that
staff
had
are
just
a
couple
about
and
stated
to
limit
the
banding
to
the
porch
of
the
accessory
structure.
Since
that's
how
it
is
on
the
primary
structure
and
then
to
review
the
window
sizes
and
proportions
for
consistency
with
those
on
the
on
the
primary
structure.
I
think
the
applicant
did
state
that
you
know
there's
smaller
windows,
so
it's
a
they
do,
look
a
little
different
than
the
ones
on
the
primary
house,
the
materials,
including
the
door.
G
I
believe
the
applicant
has
reviewed
those
and
selected
them,
so
you
may
wish
to
request
him
to
review
those
with
you
I'm
available
for
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
at
this
point.
The
will
open
to
any
public
comment
all
right.
Seeing
none
commissioners
will
now
ask
questions.
N
Yes,
but
to
begin
with,
I
think
that
I'd
like
you
all
to
remember
that
this
is
a
single
suite
and
an
efficiency
basically,
and
so,
if
you
look
in
through
the
front
door,
you
know
you're
going
to
be
looking
right
in
at
not
only
the
sitting
room
but
the
bedroom,
so
we,
I
know
the
primary
residence
has
a
marginal
door
on
it.
It's
not
something
we're
going
to
be
using
on
this
particular
structure
and
I
have
a
we
we're
going.
We
would
like
to
use.
B
N
Yes,
the
door
hardware
again
we're
we're
designing
our
cottages
for
ada
compliance
and
so
we're
using
a
bronze
lever
set
with
a
single
cylinder
deadpool
on
the
front
door.
Okay
and
then
we
do
have
one
single
light:
that's
a
ceiling
light
on
the
front
porch
and
my
client
has
selected
something
that's
appropriate
for
use
there.
N
N
Yeah,
the
the
windows
on
the
side
of
the
structure
are
one
over
one:
metal,
aluminum
windows.
Okay,
the
two
windows
on
the
front
of
the
structure:
the
existing
house
are
the
originals
and
they're
four
over
one
wood
windows.
With
with
a
with
a
wood
casing,
brick
molding
they've
been
stuck
with
back
to
them.
We
just
don't
think
that
with
those
windows
have
cover
over
them,
so
down
the
sides
of
the
house
on
that
part
of
the
house.
B
N
N
N
Again,
the
windows
and
the
doors
the
front
door
on
the
the
house
is
the
only
door
that
has
any
kind
of
wood
framing
around
it,
and
it's
got
a
back
bend
with
with
stucco
back
into
it.
I'm
not
sure
if
the
original
house
had
that
my
my
guess
is
it
did
not,
but
none
of
the
other
windows
have
that
kind
of
detailing
it's
just
the
what's
up
on
the
front
porch.
N
So
you
know
for
just
permanence
and
just
waterproofing.
Our
plan
is
just
stucco
back
into
the
window.
Frames
with
with
is
probably
our
best
bet
to
keep
water
out
of
the
building,
and,
I
think
the
rear
of
our
site.
I
guess
you
can
see
a
little
bit
of
it
right
here.
Our
parapet
wall,
you
know
on
the
back
side
of
the
structure,
is
going
to
have
no
parapet
on
the
on
the
on
the
very
end
of
the
building,
so
the
water's
going
to
flow
directly
off
the
building.
F
C
N
N
N
Don't
let
that
line
confuse
you,
that's
not
a
roof
there.
That's
it's
a
flat,
tpo
flat
roof
that
where
it's
flashed
up
the
side,
walls.
N
N
On
the
on
the
concrete
floor,
it's
just
broom
concrete
and
the
same
thing
with
the
steps
the
original
house
has
got
a
painted
concrete
floor,
it's
just
slick
and
my
owner,
just
she
and
I
just
talked
about
the
other
day.
I
said
you
know
they
may
want
you
to
paint
the
deck
and
she's.
Actually
her
comment
was,
which
was
my
guess,
was
that
it
was
just
very,
very
slippery
and
that
considering
it's
her
mother,
that's
going
to
be
moving
in
there.
N
N
N
The
ceilings
and
porsche
probably
eight
feet.
The
ceiling's
inside
the
cottage
are
nine.
N
N
F
N
In
the
rear
elevation,
you
see
the
actually
inverters
sitting
right
down
there,
but
it's
it's
a
grade
and
the
the
ducted
mini
split,
because
it's
a
flat
roof.
We're
actually
going
to
put
the
cassette
in
the
ceiling
in
the
existing
garage
and
then
just
pull
the
air
through
and
then
back
inside.
The
cottage.
N
Glass
door,
you
know
we
we're
looking.
You
know,
I
think
anything
that
that
that
would
intrude
on
our
privacy.
You
know
is
not
something
that
you
know
we
would
want.
You
know
if
you,
if,
if,
if
the
guidance
was
forced,
you
know
a
six-pack
or
an
eight
panel
or
something
that
looked
a
little
bit
more
mediterranean,
you
know,
or
even
maybe
something
with
you
know
a
transom
light
in
it
or
a
you
know,
but
I,
but
we
haven't
really
dug
into
that
too
deeply.
The
idea
was
privacy.
N
A
Okay
and
then
the
only
other
question
that
I
have
is
on
the
rear
elevation.
I
understand
you're
using
the
tpo
roof.
So
all
that's
just
going
to
shut
off.
You
are
showing
that
gutter.
We
have
gutters
okay
and
then
the
downspouts
correct.
The
existing
house
does
have
downspouts,
but
no
gutters
correct.
N
A
N
N
We
are,
you
can
see
the
dotted
lines
here
here
and
here
those
are
downspouts
and
those
that's
a
gutter
to
catch
the
discharge
off
the
roof:
okay,
okay
and
then
we'll
just
it
there's
it's
eight
feet
or
six
excuse
me:
five
feet,
eight
inches
from
the
alleyway
and
we'll
just
you
know,
take
something
and
and
just
try
to
get
the
water
discharge
to
the
alley.
N
A
Any
additional
questions:
okay,
at
this
point,
the
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
Thank.
A
Thank
you,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
the
commissioners
will
now
discuss
the
case.
F
C
C
With
the
following
conditions
that
the
front
door
specification
be
revisited
and
approved
by
staff,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
historic
design,
guidelines
for
the
city
of
tampa,
because,
based
upon
the
following
reasons
that
the
scale
massing
proportions
and
materials
are
consistent.
A
K
G
G
Commissioners,
elaine
lund,
historic
preservation
staff.
The
last
item
on
our
agenda
this
evening
is
an
application
in
the
tampa
heights:
historic
district,
new
construction,
it's
a
duplex
and
there's
a
primary
structure
and
a
one
accessory
structure
in
the
rear
before
we
open
this
case,
there's
a
variance
included
in
the
application,
so
the
applicant
would
get
10
minutes
for
the
variance
and
30
minutes
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
G
G
So
let
me
give
you
the
photo
essay
here
quickly.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
And
this
is
a
photo
looking
north
at
the
vacant
site,
see
there's
a
a
heavy
line
of
trees
here
between
this
part
parcel
and
the
adjacent
vacant
parcel.
This,
however,
is
the
property
just
to
the
west.
This
is
a
non-contributing
structure
that
was
built,
I
want
to
say
in
1998
or
1999,
just
before
tampa
heights
historic
district
was
recognized
and
designated
by
the
city
of
tampa.
G
G
G
G
A
L
So
it's
a
pleasure
for
me
to
be
here
and
present
this
to
you
this
evening.
My
name
is
roger
grunke,
I'm
an
architect.
My
office
is
2708
north
elmore
avenue
in
tampa
heights,
so
this
proposed
development
suffers
some
unique
and
singular
hardships
due
to
a
confluence
of
several
factors.
It's
not
simply
one
factor
alone
or
the
factors
individually,
but
as
they
all
work
together,
I'm
putting
before.
L
You
can
we
back
up
just
a
little
bit
so
that
we-
yes,
that's
fine.
Yes,
so
we
see
the
whole
site
there.
Thank
you,
okay.
We
know
that
that
every
project
must
meet
the
municipal
code
and
the
state
building
code
and
the
historic
neighborhood
guidelines,
but
even
more
every
development
must
also
conform
to
real
estate
and
banking
parameters.
L
In
short,
the
best
and
highest
use
of
the
land
for
the
price
offered.
The
product
must
not
only
be
pleasing
to
the
eye,
but
also
offer
comparable
utility
the
same
or
more
that
competing
developments
offer.
So
the
most
difficult
aspect
here
of
this
development
is
balancing
all
the
requirements,
the
requirements
of
all
the
different
agencies.
L
From
the
initial
responses
we
have
received
both
from
the
real
estate
representatives
and
from
bankers,
we
appear
to
have
a
strong
project,
a
project
that
will
be
a
great
asset
to
the
neighborhood
and
to
the
city
as
an
experienced
architect.
I
believe-
and
I
hope
you
will
also
come
to
agree
with
me-
that
the
project
itself
complies
with
the
tampa
heights
historic
architectural
guidelines.
L
Of
course,
it's
also
my
obligation
to
see
that
the
construction
documents
meet
the
state
building
codes.
Now
feedback
from
the
city
has
when
we
had
our
pan
development.
Pan
department
review
feedback
was
very
good.
That
is
all
except
one
aspect,
and
that
had
to
do
with
the
code,
and
it
is
regarding
guest
parking,
so
section
27282
states
that
the
development
shall
be
consistent
with
the
general
site
planning
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood
in
tampa
heights.
L
L
We
propose
two
parking
spaces
per
unit
in
a
accessory
structure.
It'd
be
one
accessory
structure,
divided
two
parking
spaces
for
one
unit
on
one
side,
two
on
the
other.
This
structure
meets
all
the
setbacks
of
an
accessory
structure
regarding
setback
from
the
alley
and
set
back
from
side
property
lines.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
So
I
have
also
done
a
analysis.
F
C
A
L
We
have
the
visual
please,
yes,
thank
you.
This
is
the
city,
hillsborough
county
transit
agency,
moves
forward
with
plans
for
streetcar
extension,
and
you
see
here
the
map,
and
this
is
the
north
terminus.
L
We
could
look
at
our
proposed
project
as
sort
of
a
mini
transit
oriented
project.
I
think
that
it's
not
too
much
to
ask
that
we
eliminate
the
one
guest
parking
space
considering
where
it
is
in
this.
In
our
foremost
urban
residential
neighborhood,
plus
the
fact
that
we
have
transit
in
the
making
two
blocks
away.
L
So
with
that,
I
just
one
more
visual.
This
is
what
the
current
code
promotes.
This
is
a
shopping
center
that
meets
parking
requirements.
G
G
A
A
That
yep,
at
this
point,
we'll
open
to
public
comment
scene.
No
one
well.
J
I
do
my
name
is
john
marsh
urban
planner,
2
transportation,
planner,
I'm
the
person
that
has
to
subject
people
to
the
visitor
parking
requirement.
I
will
say
his
his
his
description
of
rounding
was
mathematically,
correct.
J
The
transportation
does
object
to
the
waiver
on
the
basis
that
it's
new
construction
that
the
applicant's
desire
to
construct
what
he
wants
to
construct
is
a
self-imposed
hardship.
I
understand
this
arguments
I
have
to.
I
have
to
cite
the
code
as
it's
written
until
the
code
changes.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
at
this
point.
The
commissioners
will
now
ask
questions
and
before
we
get
into
that,
could
you
go
through
the
hardships
that
are
listed
and
quickly
got
to
go
through
each
one,
and
why,
in
your
response
for
each.
L
L
Hello,
this
hardship
begins
with
the
property
being
categorized
by
the
tampa
hillsborough
planning
commission
as
r35,
which
would
allow
four
units
now,
of
course,
the
city
of
tampa.
Zoning
would
have
to
then
be
adjusted
for
that
as
it
stands,
the
zoning
in
the
city
for
this
property
is
rm
24
and
easily
carries
the
two
units
we're
asking
for
this
property
was
purchased
with
that
in
mind
that
we
would
be
able
to
build
two
units
on
this
parcel.
L
Now
we
could
do
something
else
and
provide
more
parking,
but
as
it
stands,
almost
a
third
of
the
property
is
used
for
parking
to
in
john's
office.
Maybe
it
was
john
himself
who
suggested
to
me
move
the
garage
forward,
and
then
you
would
have
a
tandem
parking
space
to
the
rear
of
the
garage
for
guests
that
would
eat
up
even
more
land.
L
My
calculation
showed
at
fifteen
dollar
if
the
property
cost
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
at
fifteen
dollars
and
forty
cents,
a
square
foot,
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
would
be
going
to
car
storage
and
32
000
less
than
for
cars
would
be
going
for
habitation
for
people,
I'm
not
talking
about
the
building.
I'm
talking
about
the
land
that
would
be
used,
so
one
third
of
it
would
be
parking
one
third
of
a
building
and
the
other
third
is
front
yard
and
side
setbacks.
L
L
L
E
L
E
L
So
the
hardship
is
is
specifically
to
one
the
client
who
purchased
this
property
to
develop
it
at
two
units
for
resale
and
in
additionally
I
say
there
is
hardship
to
the
neighborhood,
the
tampa
heights
neighborhood.
L
If
we
cannot
create
the
traditional
mass
and
scale
that
the
two-story
structure
would
require,
the
two-story
structure
naturally
would
need
the
ground
space
to
spread
out
on.
Thirdly,
I'm
saying
the
city
as
a
whole
is
going
to
suffer
in
that
it's
very
possible
that
this
property
will
just
stand
vacant
because
it
wouldn't
receive
the
loan
that
it
needs
not.
A
A
You
so
if
you
could
just
kind
of
go
through
quickly
run
through
kind
of
the
six
hardships
and
then
state
your
responses
for
each
one
and
kind
of
explain
why.
L
L
If
this
exact
situation
were
identical
for
another
parcel,
then
the
hardship
would
not
be
unique,
but
we
don't
know
that,
for
we
don't
know
where
there
is
another
exact
situation.
Also.
L
L
Granting
this
request
would
require
a
guest
to
park
on
the
curb
street
directly
in
front
of
the
subject.
Property
would
not
negatively
impact
any
of
the
property
owners
and
would
be
more
convenient
to
the
guests
number
four.
The
variance
is
in
harmony
and
serves
in
general
intent
and
purpose
of
this
chapter
and
the
adopted
tampa
comprehensive
code.
The
parking
plan
submitted
is
fully
in
harmony
with
the
intent
of
the
said
chapter
of
the
tampa
code,
save
one
requirement
that
is
the
guest
parking.
L
As
I
said
earlier,
five
allowing
the
variants
will
will
result
in
substantial
justice
being
done,
considering
both
the
public
benefits,
which
I've
tried
to
enumerate
intended
to
be
secured
by
this
chapter
and
the
individual
hardships
or
practical
difficulties
that
will
be
suffered
due
to
the
failure
of
the
board
to
grant
this
variance,
don't
grant
the
variance,
and
we
can't
build
this
proposed
design.
L
A
L
Then
there
would
be
a
hardship
in
terms
of
the
value
of
the
building,
because
we
firmly
believe
that
this
design
is
far
superior
to
any
of
that.
I've
showed
you
in
terms
of
saleability,
so
it's
a
hardship
on
the
owner
who
was
invested
in
this
property
long
time
ago,
and
also
a
hardship
on
the
neighborhood
in
that
you
will
have
a
lesser
quality
product
in
that
neighborhood.
Okay,.
J
Yes,
it
is
nine
by
its
standard
parking,
which
is
nine
by
18.
A
L
No,
you
can't
get
them
lined.
You
can't
get
the
more
than
four
in
okay
we've
we've
I
mean
you
have
the
thickness
of
the
walls
of
the
garage,
okay
and
or
we
would
have
done
that,
and
there
is
a
okay
yeah
and,
as
you
can
see,
I
don't
know.
If
you
can,
can
we
have
the
the
visual
again,
please
pushing
this
back
in
order
to
do
the
tandem
space,
you
can
see
how
much
would
be
lost
from
the
building
and
that's
what
necessitates
going
up.
L
B
B
J
I
think
there
is
one
for
townhouses
as
far
as
the
parking
requirement.
It's
not.
It
really
doesn't
affect
the
fundamental
issue.
You
still
have
the
five.
J
For
the
there's,
a
zoning
requirement
yeah
that
I
review
for
trent
the
transportation
requirement
if
he,
if
he
just
had
a
pad
and
we've
seen
some
townhouses
with
we've,
seen
similar
things
in
other
parts
of
the
city
with
just
a
pad.
He
still
has
the
same.
Dimensional
dilemma:
okay,
it
doesn't
really
change
it.
Yeah.
L
K
A
No
okay
at
this
point,
the
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for.
A
Okay,
we
will
now
close
this
portion
of
the
public
hearing,
and
the
commissioners
will
discuss
the
case.
B
F
F
And
the
fact
that
the
city
is
going
through
a
road
diet
and
talking
about
multimodal
transportation
options,
an
extension
of
the
trolley
line.
You
know
those
are
there's
a
facets
as
to
why
these
historic
districts,
these
neighborhoods,
are
so
loved
and
you
know
being
bought
into
is
the
fact
that
they
are
walkable.
F
I
think
also
with
the
advent
of
the
situation
we
currently
find
ourselves
in
as
a
society
is
causing
some
reconsideration
of
the
two
three-car
family
unit.
So
you
know
until
the
codes
catch
up,
we're
kind
of
stuck
in
a
hard
place.
B
F
B
Right
but
we
have
to
remember
our
position
too,
though
I
don't
know
how
do
you
guys
feel
shawna.
C
I
agree
with
everything
that
both
of
you
have
said.
I.
I
C
That
street
parking
is
common,
however,
we're
here
to.
C
A
A
My
biggest
concern
is
the
plan.
I
think
the
way
it's
drawn
now
does
not
allow
for
there
to
be
a
guest
parking.
I
question:
if
there
is
a
plan
that
would
allow
for
two
units
to
be
on
this.
That
would
allow-
and
I
just
personally
don't
feel
that
we
have
been
shown
that
the
site
does
not
allow
those
five
spots
in
some
configuration
or
does
or
does
not,
and
that's
the
part
that
I'm
struggling
on
is
that
I
don't
feel
that
we've
been
accurately
illustrated
yet
that
it
does
not
allow
for
five.
C
F
A
F
G
Commissioners,
elaine
lund
historic
preservation
staff
at
this
time,
I
believe
it
would
be
prudent
to
upon
agreement
with
the
applicant
can
request
a
continuance
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
portion.
The
next
available
public
hearing
date
would
be
october
7th,
but
I
suggest
that
you
consult
with
the
applicant
to
see
if
that's
a
feasible
date
to
return.
A
E
G
Yes,
you're
always
allowed
to
withdraw
your
application.