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B
B
My
name
is
zachary
greco.,
I'm
the.
Chair
of
the
commission.-
I'm
the
chair
of
the
commission.-
if
you're
here
to
present
a
if
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you'll
have
limited
project,
you'll
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation.
time
to
make
your
presentation.,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough,
but
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
concise..
When
coming
to
the
microphone,.
B
When
coming
to
the
microphone,,
you
will
need
to
identify,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
the
relationship
to
yourself
and
the
relationship
to
the
project..
The
project..
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
the
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
presentation.,
you
should
present
the
you
should
present
the
presentation
in
the
following
presentation
in
the
following:
order:
site:
plan,,
elevations,,
order:,
site,
plan,,
elevations,,
architectural
details,
and
wall,
architectural
details,
and
wall
sections..
Sections.
staff
will
then
present.
B
The
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report,,
and
then
we
will
staff
report,
and
then
we
will
then
ask
the
public
for
then
ask
the
public
for
comments.
comments.
following
your
presentation,,
the
following
your
presentation,,
the
commissioners
will
begin
asking
commissioners
will
begin
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation..
B
The
presentation.,
please
state,
and
spell
your
name,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly,
if
you're
here
to
speak
clearly,
if
you're
here
to
speak
either
for
or
against
a
project.,
either
for
or
against
a
project.,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
your
time
will
be
limited
to
threeinutes,.
So
take
some
time.
B
Threeinutes,.
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments
now,
to
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly.,
very
quickly.
following
public
comment,,
the
following
public
comment,,
the
applicant
is
allowed.
Five
applicant
is
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
minutes
for
rebuttal..
The
public
hearing
will
then
be.
B
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
closed.
the
only
comments
which
will
be
the
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
allowed.
After
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
will
be
in
response.
To
is
closed,
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
commissioners.
commissioners
will
then
discuss.
B
Given
at
this
public
hearing.
the
arc
can
only
act
on
items.
The
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional,
responsibility.
jurisdictional,
responsibility.
owners
and
agents.
Are
owners
and
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
obtain
any
appropriate
permits.
And/Or
approvals.,
and/or
approvals..
If
you
haven't
already
done
so,,
if
you
haven't
already
done
so,,
please
silence
all
cell
phones.,
please
silence
all
cell
phones.
at
this
point,
I'll.
Ask
my
at
this
point,
I'll
ask
my
commissioners,,
starting
on
my.
C
B
B
C
C
B
F
F
F
You
do
have
the
2021
architecture
review,
commission
architecture,
review
commission
schedules
in
your
packets.
schedules
in
your
packets..
If
you
do
not,,
let
us
know..
If
you
do
not,,
let
us
know.,
we
will
provide
you
one,
and
we
will
provide
you
one,
and
we'll
be
e-mailing.
Those
to
you
we'll
be
e-mailing,
those
to
you
as
well.
F
F
Thank
you.,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
camaria,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
city
pettis-mackle
from
the
city,
attorney's
office.,
attorney's
office.
can
any
of
the
board
members
can
any
of
the
board
members.
Please
state
on
the
record.
Please
state
on
the
record
whether
or
not
they
have
any.
F
Any
of
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda?
agenda?
stephen
sutton:,
not
I.
stephen
sutton:,
not
I.
zachary
greco:
no.
zachary
greco:
no.
shawna
boyd:
none.,
shawna,
boyd:,
none.,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:
additionally,-
can
any
of
the
additionally,
can
any
of
the
board
members.
Please
state
on
board
members,
please
state
on
the
record
whether
or
not
the
record
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte.
F
G
Stephen
sutton:
not
I.
zachary
greco:
no.
zachary
greco:
no.
no.
no.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
camaria
pettis-mackle:.
Thank
you
very
much..
You
very
much.
mr.
vila.,
mr.
vila.
ron,
vila:
good
evening,
ron,
vila:,
good
evening,,
commissioners.,
commissioners.
ron,
vila.
ron,
vila.,
I'm
staff
with
historic,
I'm
staff
with
historic,
preservation.
preservation..
Under
continuations.
We
have
one
under
continuations.
We
have
one
reflected
on
the
agenda,
which
reflected
on
the
agenda,,
which
is
arc
20-157.
G
G
G
E
E
G
E
G
I
I
I
I
You'll
notice
that
it
is
outside
the
boundaries
of
the
national,
the
boundaries
of
the
national
register
district,
but
inside
the
register
district,
but
inside
the
local,
historic
district,
local,
historic
district,
boundaries.
boundaries.,
the
local
district,
being
the
red,
the
local
district
being
the
red
line,.
And
it
is
situated
in
the.
I
I
I
I
I
I
And
then
this
is
the
present-day
aerial.
aerial..
You
can
see
here
the
proximity
you
can
see
here
the
proximity
of
the
site
to
the
interstate.
of
the
site,
to
the
interstate.
note
that
across
the
street,
from
note
that
across
the
street,
from
it,
there's
no
more
residences,
it,,
there's
no
more
residences,
as
were
shown
on
the
sanborn.
I
I
I
I
B
B
F
F
F
F
B
I
Present
the
staff
report.
commissioners,
staff
found
commissioners,
staff
found
this
application
to
be
this
application
to
be
consistent
with
the
seminole
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
historic
district
design
heights
historic
district
design,
guidelines.
guidelines.,
there
were
some
conditions
in.
I
There
were
some
conditions
in
the
staff
report,
and
I
have
the
staff
report,,
and
I
have
worked
with
the
applicants
to
worked
with
the
applicants
to
try
to
make
sure
that
those
were
try
to
make
sure
that
those
were
addressed.
addressed..
You
may
want
to
review.
Some
of
you
may
want
to
review
some
of
those
items
just
to
clarify
for
those
items
just
to
clarify
for
yourself.
yourself..
Let's
see
if
I
can
do
this
here.,
let's
see
if
I
can
do
this
here..
I
I
I
Another
one,-
I
think
this
was
over
on
branch.
over
on
branch.,
and
this
is
an
example
of
new,
and
this
is
an
example
of
new
construction
on
branch
avenue,
construction
on
branch
avenue
that
was
approved
a
few
years
that
was
approved
a
few
years,
ago.
ago..
It
has
stucco
exterior.,
it
has
stucco
exterior.,
so
I'm
available
to
make
any
--.
B
F
J
F
F
F
D
F
B
Authority
to
speak
on
your
behalf?
behalf?
yes.
yes.
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
okay.,
camaria
pettis-mackle:
okay.
thank
you.
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you..
Anyone
from
the
public
like
to
anyone
from
the
public
like
to
speak,
either
for
or
against
the
speak,
either
for
or
against
the
project?
project?,
all
right.,
all
right..
Seeing
and
hearing
none,
the
seeing
and
hearing
none,
the
commissioners
will
now
begin.
E
Asking
questions.,
commissioner
klaussmith,:
would
commissioner
klaussmith,?
Would
you
like
to
begin.
you
like
to
begin.
susan
klaussmith:
actually,,
susan
klaussmith:,
actually,,
yes.
yes.,
forgive
me,,
but
you
went
through
forgive
me,,
but
you
went
through
your
drawings,
very
quickly.,
your
drawings,
very
quickly..
So
if
you
could,
please
put
your.
E
F
E
E
F
E
E
E
E
F
E
E
E
Of
finish.,
yes,
--
[inaudible],
yes,
--
[inaudible],
susan
klaussmith:,
I'm
sorry?,
susan
klaussmith:,
I'm
sorry?
stucco
finish
on
the
bottom.
stucco
finish
on
the
bottom.
susan
klaussmith:.
It
is
a
susan
klaussmith:.
It
is
a
stucco
as
well.
stucco
as
well.
yes,
yes.
yes,
yes.
susan
klaussmith:
thank
you.
F
Susan
klaussmith:
thank
you.,
then
at
the
columns,.
What
are
then
at
the
columns,?
What
are
the
materials??
The
materials?
columns,
wood.
columns,
wood.
no
composite
over
anything.,
no
composite
over
anything.,
trimmed
out
wood,
all
the
way,
trimmed
out
wood
all
the
way
throughout
here
and
then
we'll
throughout
here
and
then
we'll
have
a
thin
brick
veneer
on
the
have
a
thin
brick
veneer
on
the
bottom,
at
the
base.
bottom,
at
the
base.
susan
klaussmith:,
and
then
the
susan
klaussmith:,
and
then
the
cap?.
B
Concrete.
susan
klaussmith:,
thank
you,
susan
klaussmith:.
Thank
you
very
much.,
very
much..
That's
it
for
my
questions
at
that's
it
for
my
questions
at
this
time.,
this
time.
zachary
greco:,
real
quick.,
zachary,
greco:,
real
quick.,
so
you're,
stating
that
below
the
so
you're
stating
that
below
the
concrete
slab
is
going
to
be
concrete.
Slab
is
going
to
be
stucco
banding
for
the
stucco
banding
for
the
foundation.
foundation.,
the
drawings
that
you
have
here,.
B
B
F
B
Building
or
is
that
detail
incorrect?
incorrect?
this
detail
must
have
been
this
detail
must
have
been
incorrect.,
incorrect.,
zachary
greco:.
Then
I
guess
zachary
greco:.
Then
I
guess
the
next
question
is,
the
detail.
The
next
question
is,
the
detail
to
the
right
of
that,
that
also
to
the
right
of
that,.
That
also
has
--.
If
the
camera
could
zoom
has
--.
If
the
camera
could
zoom
out
--
detail
number
two,
that.
B
B
F
D
Zachary
greco:,
commissioner
klaussmith,:
do
you
have
any
klaussmith,?
Do
you
have
any
further
questions?
further
questions?
susan
klaussmith:,
not
at
this
susan
klaussmith:,
not
at
this
time.
time.
zachary
greco:,
commissioner
zachary
greco:,
commissioner
boyd.
boyd.
shawna
boyd:,
a
couple
of
the
shawna
boyd:.
A
couple
of
the
conditions
are
from
staff.
Are
conditions
are
from
staff?
Are
the
foundation
enclosure,
which
the
foundation
enclosure,,
which
you
just
discussed,
hardware,
and
you
just
discussed,
hardware
and
lighting.
lighting.?
Do
you
have
hardware
and
do
you
have
hardware
and
lighting
specifications?
D
F
F
D
Original
question.
yeah,,
it's
calling
for
lattice
yeah,.
It's
calling
for
lattice
--,
[inaudible],
--,
[inaudible],
shawna
boyd:,
the
foundation,
shawna
boyd:,
the
foundation
enclosure
on
the
front
porch
enclosure
on
the
front
porch
would
be
the
wood-painted
at
would
be
the
wood-painted
at
that
time.
Lis.
that
time,
lis.
yes.
yes.,
shawna
boyd:,
I
don't
have
any
shawna
boyd:.
I
don't
have
any
additional
questions
at
the
additional
questions
at
the
moment.
D
C
C
C
C
C
Air
conditioning
equipment?
it's
going
to
be
right
over
it's
going
to
be
right
over
here
on
the
left
side.
here
on
the
left.
Side.,
it's
not
indicated
here.,
it's
not
indicated
here.
stephen
sutton:,
so
that
stephen
sutton:,
so
that
air-conditioning
equipment
will
air-conditioning
equipment
will
be
essentially
visible
from
the
be
essentially
visible
from
the
streetfront,
correct?.
C
C
C
B
B
I
I
I
Set
back
a
little
further
from
the
wall,
that's
to
the
west
of
the
wall,
that's
to
the
west
of
it.
it.,
so
the
front
of
the
building
on
so
the
front
of
the
building
on
the
west
comes
forward
of
the
the
west
comes
forward
of
the
front
of
the
building
just
to
front
of
the
building
just
to
the
east
of
that.,
the
east
of
that.,
so
you're,
seeing
in
this
drawing
so
you're.
Seeing
in
this
drawing
the
porch
and
the
wall,
that's
the
porch
and
the
wall.
That's
just
beyond
that.
I
B
B
Zachary
greco:
okay.,
if
we
could
real
quick,
so
just
if
we
could
real
quick,
so
just
for
the
record
to
make
sure,
for
the
record
to
make
sure,.
Since
there
is
some,
since
there
is
some
inconsistency
on
the
details,
inconsistency
on
the
details,
primary
finish
for
the
building
primary
finish
for
the
building
will
be
stucco
on
cmu
block.
B
B
B
B
F
B
It's
going
to
be
a
decorative
gable.
gable.
zachary
greco:.
Do
you
have
any
zachary
greco:?
Do
you
have
any
details
for
that?
details
for
that??
I
do
not..
I
do
not.
zachary
greco:,
the
band
that
zachary
greco:,
the
band
that
you
have
where
it
says.
"Top
of
you
have
where
it
says
"top
of
block,",
where
it
is
a
transition
block,"
where
it
is
a
transition
on
the
gable
ends
between
the
on
the
gable
ends
between
the
stucco
and
the
hardie.
Plank,
is.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
rebuttal.,
no
rebuttal.,
no
rebuttal.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
at
this
point,.
We
will
be
at
this
point,.
We
will
be
closing
this
portion
of
the
closing
this
portion
of
the
public
hearing,
and
public
hearing,
and
commissioners
will
now
begin.
Commissioners
will
now
begin
discussing
the
case.
E
E
E
C
C
We
have
a
number
of
items
here
that
are
up
in
the
air,
if
you
that
are
up
in
the
air,,
if
you
will.
will.,
you've
made
certain
commitments,
you've
made
certain
commitments,,
but
we're
also
looking
at
if
we,
but
we're
also
looking
at.
If
we
proceed
with
this
asking
staff
proceed
with
this
asking
staff
to
do
an
awful
lot
of
continuing.
C
Items,
such
as
your
details,,
your
final
windows,
fence,
your
final
windows,
fence,
enclosures,
fences
in
general,,
enclosures,
fences
in
general,.
If
it
ever
shows
up
again.,
if
it
ever
shows
up
again.
hardware,
lighting,
all
are
going
hardware,
lighting,
all
are
going
to
have
to
be
coordinated
with
to
have
to
be
coordinated
with
staff.
staff..
Are
you
prepared
to
contend
with?
C
D
D
D
D
B
B
B
B
B
little
bit
difficult..
I
think
overall,
the
things
that
I
think
overall,
the
things
that
we
could
look
at
doing,.
I
we
could
look
at
doing,,
I
wouldn't
say
would
change,
wouldn't
say,
would
change
overall,
the
design
of
the
overall,
the
design
of
the
project.
project..
It's
just
some
inconsistencies,,
it's
just
some
inconsistencies,,
but
that
would
be
my
opinion.
B
D
D
Details
are
updated
to
reflect
the
design
presented
at
this.
The
design
presented
at
this
hearing.
hearing.
because,
based
upon
the
finding,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,,
the
proposed
project,
is
of
fact,.
The
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
design
guidelines
for
heights
design
guidelines
for
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons:
that
the
following
reasons:
that
the
scale,
massing,
setback
and.
B
Orientation
comply
with
the
guidelines.
guidelines.
susan
klaussmith:,
I
second
the
susan
klaussmith:,
I
second,
the
motion.
motion.
zachary
greco:.
Before
we
vote,
zachary
greco:
before
we
vote,.
Do
you
understand
the
conditions?
Do
you
understand
the
conditions
as
they
have
been
stated?,
as
they
have
been
stated?,
zachary
greco:
and
on
the
zachary
greco:
and
on
the
record,?
Are
you
okay,
with
them?
B
G
G
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Arc
20-233
for
the
address
of
1723,
west
hills,
avenue.,
1723,
west
hills,
avenue..
This
is
in
the
hyde
park.
This
is
in
the
hyde
park,
historic
district.,
historic
district..
The
primary
structure
was
the
primary
structure,
was
constructed
in
1923
and
is
a
constructed
in
1923
and
is
a
contributing
structure.
G
G
G
G
Past
action
is
that,
on
page
3
of
your
staff
report,,
you
reviewed
your
staff
report,.
You
reviewed
this
project
in
july
8th,
this
project
in
july,
8th,
the
2020.,
the
2020..
There
were
some
items
that
were
there
were
some
items
that
were
not
present
at
that
public
not
present
at
that
public
hearing,
and
you
probably
should.
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G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
The
drive
aisle.-
this
is
how
it
looked
prior
to
this
is
how
it
looked
prior
to
them.
Uncovering
some
of
the
them
uncovering
some
of
the
historic
treatment.
historic
treatment..
And
then
you
see
the
lap
siding.,
and
then
you
see
the
lap
siding.
a
couple
things
to
note.
a
couple
things
to
note..
You
notice
r
see
how
the
siding
you
notice
r
see
how
the
siding
almost
comings
down
to
grade.
G
G
G
G
G
G
J
J
Agent
for
lisa
and
pete
fossen
for
their
property
at
1723
for
their
property
at
1723,
hills.
hills..
As
mentioned
we
were
here
at
the
as
mentioned.
We
were
here
at
the
july
8
meeting
and
at
that
time
july,
8
meeting
and
at
that
time
there
were
a
number
of
there
were
a
number
of
suggestions
made
and
questions
suggestions
made
and
questions
raised,
and
we
elected
to
raised,
and
we
elected
to
continue
to
tonight's
meeting
in
continue
to
tonight's
meeting
in
order
to
have
time
to
address
order,
to
have
time
to
address
those
suggestions
and
questions.
J
J
J
J
And
I
have
a
detail
of
that.,
but
the
only
change
from
the,
but
the
only
change
from
the
last
presentation
on
the
fence.
Last
presentation
on
the
fence
is
we
elected
to
carry?
Is
we
elected
to
carry
previously?
The
fence
ended
at
previously.
The
fence
ended
at
this
point,
and
we
have
elected
this
point,
and
we
have
elected
to
carry
that
further
forward
to
to
carry
that
further
forward
to
the
corner
of
the
proposed
new,
the
corner
of
the
proposed
new
addition.
J
J
Condition
and
this
house
had
asbestos
shingle
siding
on
it.
Asbestos
shingle
siding
on
it
and
it
was
taken
all
the
way
to,
and
it
was
taken
all
the
way
to
the
ground
which
actually
led
to
the
ground,
which
actually
led
to
several
structural
problems.
To
several
structural
problems
to
the
house.,
the
house..
There
was
no
ventilation,
there
was
no
ventilation
underneath
and
noon.
Insulation,.
J
Underneath
and
noon
insulation,,
so
there
was
a
lot
of
wood.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
wood,
damage,,
rot,,
termite
problems,
damage,
rot,,
termite
problems
that
are
being
addressed.,
that
are
being
addressed.
and
then
on
each
of
these
and
then
on
each
of
these
sheets,,
the
lower
elevation
sheets,,
the
lower
elevation
shows
the
existing
with
the.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
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J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
Were
submitted
prior
to
the
owner
determining
that
what
we
owner,
determining
that,
what
we
would
like
to
do,
you
can
see
would
like
to
do,.
You
can
see
the
wood
fence
and
thewood
wood,
the
wood
fence
and
thewood
wood
gate
on
this
side
of
the
house.
gate.
On
this
side
of
the
house.,
we
would
like
to
continue
the.
J
Structure
and
the
accessory
structure.
structure.
mann
structure,,
we
intend
to
mann
structure,.
We
intend
to
match
the
floor
height
of
the
match,
the
floor
height
of
the
existing
house,,
so
it
will
be
existing
house,,
so
it
will
be
elevated
with
a
crawl
space,
elevated
with
a
crawl
space
underneath
and
ventilated,
with
a
underneath
and
ventilated,
with
a
spread
footing,
understood
--
or.
J
Again,
we
are
proposing
to
use
spray
foam
insulation
which
spray
foam
insulation
which
occurs
under
the
actual
roof
occurs
under
the
actual
roof
decking,,
so
the
attic
becomes
decking,.
So
the
attic
becomes
semi
conditioned.
semi
conditioned.
the
overhangs,.
We
are
matching
the
overhangs,.
We
are
matching
the
existing
with
the
tongue
in.
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J
J
J
G
Presentation.
ran
ran
at
this
point,
staff
ran
ran
at
this
point,
staff
will
now
present.
The
staff
will
now
present
the
staff
report.
report.
ron,
vila,
staff
of
historic
ron,
vila,
staff
of
historic
preservation.
preservation.,
going
through
the
staff
going
through
the
staff
findings,.
This
application
is
findings,.
This
application
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
consistent
with
the
hyde
park,
design,
guidelines.
G
design.
Guidelines.
there
were
ten
conditions,
items.
There
were
ten
conditions,
items
that
were
addressed
on
page
4
of
that
were
addressed
on
page
4
of
your
staff,
report.
your
staff,
report.
that
you
went
through.
that
you
went
through..
I
think
the
only
item
that
I
saw,
I
think
the
only
item
that
I
saw
that
I
did
strike
off
the.
G
B
B
C
C
C
J
J
C
J
Single
light
french
door.,
stephen
sutton:,
it
is
a
stephen
sutton:.
It
is
a
single
light.
single
light..
You
are
not
--
relationship
to
you
are
not
--
relationship
to
your
windows?,
your
windows?
lyle
breeze:,
because
it
is
a
lyle
breeze:,
because
it
is
a
fenced
backyard,
and
becaus,
the
fenced,
backyard,
and
becaus.
The
view
of
the
backyard
is
the
view
of
the
backyard.
Is
the
primary
view
from
that
--
from
primary
view
from
that
--
from
the
rear
of
the
house,,
the
idea,
the
rear
of
the
house,?
D
E
E
E
I
think
you
worked
very
hard
with
the
owner
and
took
to
the
with
the
owner
and
took
to
the
heart.
heart.
a
lot
of
the
comments.
We
have
a
lot
of
the
comments
we
have
for
you,
and
I
think
it's
going
for
you,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
place
for
them
to
be
a
wonderful
place
for
them
to
make
a
home.
E
E
J
J
J
E
J
J
E
The
exterior
sheathing,,
the
siding,
can
come
down
straight.
Siding
can
come
down
straight
without
having
to
kick
out.
without
having
to
kick
out.
susan
klaussmith:.
That
was
susan
klaussmith:.
That
was
actually
going
to
be
another
actually
going
to
be
another
question.
question.
in
the
details,.
It's
really
hard
in
the
details,.
It's
really
hard
for
me
to
see.
E
E
E
G
G
When
we
first
found
the
house
was
compromised,,
it
was
heavily
was
compromised,,
it
was
heavily
vegetated.
vegetated..
You
could
barely
see
the
house.,
you
could
barely
see
the
house..
So
when
you
see
the
earth
come
so
when
you
see
the
earth
come
up
and
you
see
the
minimal
up
and
you
see
the
minimal
transition
from
the
dirt
to
the
transition
from
the
dirt
to
the
siding,,
I
think
over
time,
the
siding,.
I
think
over
time,
the
dirt
kind
of
raised
up,
and
dirt
kind
of
raised
up,,
and
that's
why
it
showed
that
little.
G
That's
why
it
showed
that
little
profile.
profile.
and
I
think
the
agent
was-
and
I
think
the
agent
was
accurate
in
stating
that
the
accurate
in
stating
that
the
house
needed
to
breathe,
and
house
needed
to
breathe,
and
that
caused
solve
demise
to
the
that
caused
solve
demise
to
the
structure,,
that
it
wasn't
able
structure,
that
it
wasn't
able
to
vent
properly.
G
J
J
J
J
J
E
J
But
maybe
more
of
a
lane
out
in
front
of
the
space
with
the
front
of
the
space
with
the
brick.
brick.
lyle
breeze:,
it
actually
lyle
breeze:.
It
actually
should
flush.
Out.
should
flush
out.,
the
edge,.
If
look
at
the
edge,
the
edge,,
if
look
at
the
edge
of
the
frame
wall,,
that's.
E
A
band
at
the
end
here
and
the
siding
comes
down
as
a
wood
to
siding
comes
down
as
a
wood
to
the
end
of
the
corner.
Boards.
the
end
of
the
corner,
boards.
susan
klaussmith:,
so
the
band
susan
klaussmith:,
so
the
band
is
allowing
the
side
to
pop
out,
is
allowing
the
side
to
pop
out,,
which
additionally,
you
had
that
which
additionally,
you
had
that
flashing
flange
that
you
had
in.
B
J
J
J
J
B
Adjoining
the
neighboring
property.
property.,
zachary
greco:,
so
a
zachary
greco:,
so
a
difference
of
--.
Let's
look
at
difference
of
--:
let's
look
at
doors,
first.
doors,
first.
the
doors
on
the
primary
the
doors
on
the
primary
structure
on
the
rear,.
You
were
structure
on
the
rear,
you
were
saying
are
just
going
to
be
a.
B
B
B
B
B
J
B
J
B
J
B
B
B
Allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
rebuttal.
lyle
breeze:.
I
don't
think
I
lyle
breeze:.
I
don't
think
I
have
anything
to
rebut.,
have
anything
to
rebut.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
zachary
greco:.
We
will
now
zachary
greco:.
We
will
now
close
this
portion
of
the
public
close
this
portion
of
the
public
hearing
and
the
commissioners
hearing
and
the
commissioners
will
now
begin
discussing
the.
D
B
D
Zachary
greco:
would
any
commissioner
like
to
make
a
commissioner
like
to
make
a
motion?
motion?
shawna
boyd:
I.
shawna
boyd:
I.
to
grant
the
certifiate
of
to
grant
the
certifiate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawing
appropriateness
for
the
drawing
presented
at
this
public
presented
at
this
public
hearing,
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33
for
the.
B
Reasons
that
scale,
massing,
proportion,
detail
meet
the
proportion,
detail,
meet
the
guidelines.
guidelines.
stephen
sutton:.
I
second
that
stephen
sutton:,
I
second
that
motion.
motion.
zachary
greco:
all
in
favor?,
zachary
greco:,
all
in
favor?,
against?,
against?
motion,
passes.
motion
passes.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
lyle
breeze:.
Thank
you
very.
G
G
G
G
G
August
3rd,
2020,
as
part
of
that
initial
review,,
there
was
that
initial
review,
there
was
an
accessory
structure
that
an
accessory
structure
that
requested
demolition.
requested
demolition..
That
was
approved.
that
was
approved.
and
then
there
was
also
a
new
and
then
there
was
also
a
new
construction
for
the
subject:
construction
for
the
subject
structure
that
was
approved
at
structure
that
was
approved
at
that
public
hearing.
G
G
G
I
would
request
that
you
open
these
together
for
the
these
together
for
the
simplicity
of
the
whole
simplicity
of
the
whole
presentation.
presentation.,
having
stated
that,
taking
30,
having
stated
that,,
taking
30
minutes
for
the
certificate
of
minutes
for
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
and
10
minutes,
appropriateness
and
10
minutes
for
the
variance.
for
the
variance..
So
if
we
could
put
40
minutes
on
so
if
we
could
put
40
minutes
on
the
clock.
G
G
G
G
Village
to
the
north
of
swann.:
this
is
the
current
aerial
map.
This
is
the
current
aerial
map
showing
that
same
area.,
showing
that
same
area.,
swann
avenue.,
swann,
avenue.,
oregon.,
oregon.
portion
of
hued
park,
village.
portion
of
hued
park,
village.,
obviously
to
the
north
of
swann,,
obviously
to
the
north
of
swann,.
The
property.
G
G
G
moving
to
the
south
elevation..
This
is
behind
hyde
park.
This
is
behind
hyde
park,
village.
village..
This
is
the
parking
associated.
This
is
the
parking
associated
with
hyde
park
village..
This
is
with
hyde
park
village..
This
is
the
barrier
wall
that
separates
the
barrier
wall
that
separates
them.
them..
You
see
there
is
a
bump-out
on
you
see.
There
is
a
bump-out
on
this
side,
that
kind
of
pierces
this
side,,
that
kind
of
pierces
through
the
roofline,
and
the.
G
G
G
G
H
H
Villa
stated,
last
month,,
but
I
will
recap
what
we
are
doing,
will
recap
what
we
are
doing.
Now,.
Of
course
the
garage
was
a
now,.
Of
course
the
garage
was
a
separate
part
that
had
been
separate
part
that
had
been
approved.
approved.,
but
it's
going
to
be
new,
but
it's
going
to
be
new
construction
of
an
addition
to
construction
of
an
addition
to
the
primary
structure,
going
to
the
primary
structure,
going
to
be
a
laundry
room.,
be
a
laundry
room.
and
the
variance
in
connection
and
the
variance
in
connection
to
that.
H
H
H
H
H
H
H
Not
only
is
she
buffered
by
the
wall,
but
she
has
written
a
wall,
but
she
has
written
a
letter
expressing
support
for
letter
expressing
support
for
the
project.,
the
project.
and
ms.
boyd,
you
had
asked
at
and
ms.
boyd,
you
had
asked
at
the
last
hearing.
If
we
had
a
the
last
hearing,
if
we
had
a
floor
plan,
because
it
would
be
floor
plan,
because
it
would
be
helpful.
H
helpful.,
we
do
have
a
floor
plan
that
I
we
do
have
a
floor
plan
that
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
walk
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
walk
everybody
through
the
layout
of
everybody
through
the
layout
of
the
home,
because
I
think
that
the
home-
because
I
think
that
will
definitely
be
helpful.-
will
definitely
be
helpful..
The
total
is
47
square
feet
in.
H
The
total
is
47
square
feet
in
size.
size..
It
is
a
very
small
room,
to
it
is
a
very
small
room,
to
unstack
the
washer
and
drier
and
unstack
the
washer
and
drier,
and
to
have
a
functional
laundry
to
have
a
functional
laundry
room.
room.
and
some
of
it,
as
you
can
see,
is,
and
some
of
it,
as
you
can
see,
is
actually
existing
print
print
of
actually
existing
print
print
of
the
home.
H
H
H
H
H
H
Which
is
actually
situated
about
here.
here.,
the
bathrooms
are
kind
of
all
in
the
bathrooms
are
kind
of
all
in
the
same
central
area.
On
that
the
same
central
area
on
that
side
of
the
house.
side
of
the
house.
and
then
there's
a
deny
towards
and
then
there's
a
deny
towards
the
back
of
the
house
here,.
H
Stairs
up
to
the
second
floor.,
so
the
existing
area
of
the
so
the
existing
area
of
the
washer
and
drier,
of
course,,
washer
and
drier,
of
course,,
where
the
water
hooksups
are,,
where
the
water
hooksups
are,
the
washer
and
drier,,
and
to
put
the
washer
and
drier,
and
to
put
it
anywhere
else,.
It
would
make.
H
It
anywhere
else,
it
would
make
the
floor
plan
irregular,.
If
we
the
floor
plan
irregular,.
If
we
put
it
in,
say,
for
example,,
one
put
it
in,
say,
for
example,
one
of
the
bedrooms
it
would
reduce
of
the
bedrooms.
It
would
reduce
the
value
of
the
home
because
the
value
of
the
home,
because
the
bedrooms
north-
that
big
to
the
bedrooms
north
that
big
to
begin
with,,
the
house-
is
not
begin
with,.
H
The
house
is
not
that
big
to
begin
with,
and
it
that
big
to
begin
with,
and
it
would
create
irregularities,,
would
create
irregularities,,
reduce
the
value
and
it
would
reduce
the
value
and
it
would
not
be
a
sensible,
location,
plus
not
be
a
sensible
location,
plus
you
would
have
to
replumb
it
and
you
would
have
to
replumb
it,
and
that
would
be
invasive
and
very
that
would
be
invasive
and
very
costly.
costly.
of
course,.
We
would
not
put
it
of
course,.
H
H
And
the
deny,,
not
only
is
the
ac
pad
here,,
you
couldn't
do
a
pad
here,.
You
couldn't
do
a
bump-out
here,
because
there's
bump-out
here,
because
there's
equipment
over
here,
but
there's
equipment
over
here,
but
there's
an
oak
tree
over
here
whose
an
oak
tree
over
here
whose
canopy
comes
over
this
portion
canopy
comes
over
this
portion
of
the
house,
so
it
limits
the
of
the
house.
So
it
limits
the
ability
to
build
in
that
whole
ability
to
build
in
that
whole
corner.
corner..
That
would
be
the
southeast.
H
Corner
of
the
house.,
so
this
is
the
most
sensible.
So
this
is
the
most
sensible
place.
place..
It's
the
only
feasible,
logical,
it's
the
only
feasible,
logical
place
to
do
a
absolute
bump-out
place
to
do
a
absolute
bump-out
here
on
the
back
of
the
house.
here
on
the
back
of
the
house..
It
doesn't
disrupt
the
historic
it
doesn't
disrupt
the
historic
porch,
which
I
will
show
you
a
porch,,
which
I
will
show
you
a
picture
of
as
well.
H
It
will
be
five
feet
away
from
ms.
michelini's
property.,
ms.
michelini's
property.,
so
I
will
keep
this
on
hand
in
so
I
will
keep
this
on
hand
in
case
we
want
to
refer
back
to
it
case.
We
want
to
refer
back
to
it,
but
I
will
just
show
you
a
few,
but
I
will
just
show
you
a
few
pictures,
color
of
the
interior,
pictures,
color
of
the
interior
of
the
house,.
You
can
see
as
you
of
the
house,
you
can
see
as
you
are
walking
through.
It.
H
are
walking
through
it..
So
here
is
the
living
room,.
So
here
is
the
living
room,
front,
door.
front
door.!
You
can
see
it's
not
that
big.!
You
can
see
it's
not
that
big..
There's
a
half
wall,
that
kind
of
there's
a
half
wall.
That
kind
of
separates
the
living
room
from
separates
the
living
room
from
the
dining
room.
H
H
H
Out
in
terms
of
what's
going
on
there.
there.
r,
so
it
would
be
strange
to
have
r,
so
it
would
be
strange
to
have
a
laundry
room
in
the
bathroom,
a
laundry
room
in
the
bathroom,
but
if
you
could,,
you
wouldn't,
but
if
you
could,,
you
wouldn't
do
it
because
they
are
pretty
do
it
because
they
are
pretty
much
as
capacity
here..
This
is
much
as
capacity
here..
This
is
the
den
as
you
can
see,
these,
the
den
as
you
can
see,.
These
windows
overlook.
The
porch.
H
H
From
this
area
would
protrude
greatly
into
the
porch,
which
is
greatly
into
the
porch,
which
is
a
very
characteristic
porch
and
a
very
characteristic
porch
and
has
a
really
nice
look,,
so
that
has
a
really
nice
look,,
so
that
quo
negatively
impact.
The
home's
quo
negatively
impact
the
home's
character.
H
H
H
H
H
H
Stacked
washer
and
driers
are
dangerous,
and
to
unstack
them,
dangerous,
and
to
unstack
them,
make
sure
the
floor
is
level,.
Make
sure
the
floor
is
level,.
Make
sure
these
things
don't
make
sure
these
things
don't
rock
and
roll
when
you
turn
them
rock
and
roll,
when
you
turn
them
on
and
have
enough
room
to
on
and
have
enough
room
to
access,
them.
access,
them.-
and
here
is
the
kitchen.
H
H
H
H
And
here
you
can
see
the
grand
oak
and
how
far
that
canopy
oak
and
how
far
that
canopy
extend
over
the
house.
extend
over
the
house..
It's
a
wonderful
tree.,
it's
a
wonderful
tree.!
This
is
the
side
of
the
house.
This
is
the
side
of
the
house
with
the
existing
burchout
that,
with
the
existing
burchout
that
comes
fairly
close,
close
to
that
comes
fairly
close,
close
to
that
wall.
wall.
couldn't
add
something
on
this
couldn't
add
something
on
this
side.
side..
H
H
Over
this
portion
of
the
house.
here
are
the
elevations,
which
I
here
are
the
elevations,
which
I
will
show
again
in
connection,
will
show
again
in
connection
with
the
certificate
of
with
the
certificate
of
appropriaeness.
appropriaeness..
But
I
wanted
to
shop
these
now,,
but
I
wanted
to
shop
these
now,
in
the
context
of
a
few
photos,
in
the
context
of
a
few
photos,.
But
I
am
going
to
be
show
you,
but
I
am
going
to
be
show
you,
the
surrounding
area
that
has
a.
H
The
surrounding
area
that
has
a
similar
bump-out
feature
as
similar
bump-out
feature
as
this.
this.
here
is,
of
course,
ms.
smaney's
here
is,
of
course,
ms.
smaney's
house..
This
is
her
side
yard
house..
This
is
her
side
yard,
and
here
is
the
location
where-
and
here
is
the
location
where
the
burchout
would
be
all
the
the
burchout
would
be
all
the
way
in
the
back.
H
way
in
the
back.,
and
here
is
what
it
would
look,
and
here
is
what
it
would
look
like.
like.
I
mean,
here
is
what
we
see
from
I
mean,
here
is
what
we
see
from
the
right-of-way.,
the
right-of-way.,
this
tall,
opaque
fence.,
this
tall,
opaque,
fence.
again,.
The
bump-out
is
all
the
again,.
The
bump-out
is
all
the
way
to
the
back,
will
be
all
the
way
to
the
back,
will
be
all
the
way
to
the
back
there,,
at
least.
H
H
Are
some
photos
I
took
of
the
surrounding
block,
swann
and
surrounding
block,
swann
and
that
hyde
park
district.
this
that
hyde
park
district.?
This
is
a
very
good
representation
of
is
a
very
good
representation
of
what
we
are
proposing,
other,
what
we
are
proposing,
other
than
direction
of
the
roof,
than
direction
of
the
roof,,
because
we
are
proposing
the
because
we
are
proposing
the
roof
to
be
angled,
the
other
way
roof
to
be
angled,
the
other
way
to
be
in
loon
with
other
to
be
in
loon
with
other
bump-out.
bump-out..
H
H
H
And
it's
very
characteristic
feature
of
these
stale
homes.
feature
of
these
stale
homes..
You
see
it
all
over
the
place..
You
see
it
all
over
the
place..
I
apologize
for
the
hedges
in
I
apologize
for
the
hedges
in
the
way
of
this
photo,,
but
of
the
way
of
this
photo,.
But
of
course
I
had
to
stay
on
the
course
I
had
to
stay
on
the
sidewalk.
sidewalk..
H
H
H
H
H
And
the
first
floor
elevation
of
mrs.
smaney's
existing
home,
if
mrs.
smaney's
existing
home,,
if
you
stand
in
that
said,
yard,
you
stand
in.
That
said,
yard,
can't
even
see
mrs.
michelini's
can't
even
see
mrs.
michelini's
home,
and
I
imagine
it's
on
the
home,
and
I
imagine
it's
on
the
other
side,
where
you
can't
see
other
side
where
you
can't
see
each
other's
first
floor
each
other's
first
floor
elevation,
so
mrs.
michelini
elevation,
so
mrs.
michelini
won't
even
be
able
to
be
see
the
won't
even
be
able
to
be
see
the
addition.
addition.
H
H
Part
of
the
house.,
so
I
wanted
to
specifically
so
I
wanted
to
specifically
address
each
of
the
variance
address
each
of
the
variance
criteria.
criteria.
one
at
a
time.
one
at
a
time.
of
course,,
the
presentation.
As
of
course,
the
presentation,
as
far
as
to
show
you
how
we
meet
far
as
to
show
you
how
we
meet
the
criteria.,
I
just
wanted
to
the
criteria..
I
just
wanted
to
discuss
the
criteria,.
Read
them.
H
H
Hardship
or
adults
are
unique
and
singular
with
respect
to
the
and
singular
with
respect
to
the
property
or
with
respect
to
the
property
or
with
respect
to
the
structure
or
building
therein
structure
or
building
therein
than
and
are
not
those
suffered
than
and
are
not
those
suffered
in
common
with
other
properties,,
in
common
with
other
properties,
structures
or
buildings
structures
or
buildings.
Similarly,
located.,
similarly
located.,
so
the
existing
home
structure,.
H
H
H
Which
is
something
very
normal.,
even
my
cramped,
700
fat,
even
my
cramped,
700
fat
apartment,
has
a
spot
for
it.
apartment
has
a
spot
for
it.,
I'm
sure
I
pay
for
it
in
the
I'm
sure
I
pay
for
it
in
the
rent.
rent.
other
homes
have
an
entirely
other
homes,
have
an
entirely
different
floor
plan
as
different
floor
plan,
as
evidenced
by
other
pictures
of
a
evidenced
by
other
pictures
of
a
few
houses
in
the
area,
few
houses
in
the
area,
everything
we
have
seen
tonight.
H
H
The
second
criterion
is
hardship
or
practical
difficulties
does
or
practical
difficulties
does
not
result
in
the
applications
not
result
in
the
applications
of
the
applicant,.
The
existing
of
the
applicant,,
the
existing
home
structure
was
built
in
home
structure
was
built
in
1921,
the
lot
line
of
the
homes
1921,,
the
lot
line
of
the
homes
are
what
they
are
and
mrs.
H
H
If
granted
will
not
substantially
interfere
with
substantially
interfere
with
safety,
health
or
welfare
of
safety,
health
or
welfare
of
others.
others.,
mrs.
elizabeth
michelini
is
the
mrs.
elizabeth
michelini
is
the
only
person
who
will
be
directly
only
person
who
will
be
directly
affected
by
this,
and
she
is
the
affected
by
this,
and
she
is
the
only
resident
knob
to
the
north.
H
H
H
fence
and
the
new
addition.,
and
the
fact
that
the
bump-out
and
the
fact
that
the
bump-out
is
consistent
not
only
with
the
is
consistent
not
only
with
the
existing
style
of
the
home
existing
style
of
the
home,
having
a
bump-out
on
the
south
having
a
bump-out
on
the
south
side,
but
is
also
consistent
with
side,
but
is
also
consistent
with
the
character
of
the
homes
in
the
character
of
the
homes
in
the
surrounding
area
in
the
surrounding
area
in
craftsman.
Style.
H
H
H
The
adopted
tampa
comprehensive,
plan.,
plan.
again,.
The
addition
will
again,.
The
addition
will
complement
the
historic
home
as
complement
the
historic
home
as
well
as
the
district.
It
cines
it
well
as
the
district
it
cines.
It
is
value
of
the
home
by
having
is
value
of
the
home
by
having
adding
a
critical
quality
of
adding
a
critical
quality
of
life,
will
greatly
increase.
The
life,
will
greatly
increase
the
value
of
her
home,
and
the
goals.
H
Value
of
her
home,
and
the
goals
of
the
district,
to
ensure
of
the
district
to
ensure
preservation
of
the
home
and
the
preservation
of
the
home
and
the
maintenance,
want
to
attract
maintenance,
want
to
attract
people
to
the
district
who
care
people
to
the
district.
Who
care
about
these
homes,?
Who
want
to
about
these
homes,,
who
want
to
maintain
their
value,,
maintain,
maintain
their
value,,
maintain
that
you
are
appearance,
and
to.
H
H
Features,
attract
people
to
buy.
a
--,
allowing
this
variance
will
a
--,
allowing
this
variance
will
result
in
substantial
justice
result
in
substantial
justice
being
done
intended
to
be
being
done
intended
to
be
secured
by
this
chapter
and
the
secured
by
this
chapter
and
the
individual
hardship
or
practical,
individual
hardship
or
practical
physical
difficulty
that,
due
to
physical
difficulty,
that,
due
to
the
failure
of
the
board
to
the
failure
of
the
board
to
grant
the
variance.
H
H
A
time
capsule
of
1921
or
whenever
the
individual
house,
whenever
the
individual
house
was
built.,
was
built.
surrounding
property
owners
will
surrounding
property
owners,
will
not
experience
adverse
impact,
not
experience
adverse
impact
and
increase
value
to
the
home,
and
increase
value
to
the
home,
benefits
everybody
in
the
benefits.
Everybody
in
the
district.
district..
The
practical
difficulty
of
the
the
practical
difficulty
of
the
layout
that
I
have
shown
you,
layout
that
I
have
shown
you,,
showed
you
the
floor
plan
and
showed
you
the
floor
plan
and
the
pictures,
as
well
as
the
fact.
H
H
The
variance
if
granted
will
allow
development
that
is,
will
allow
development
that
is
consistent
with
the
design
consistent
with
the
design
standard
and
compatible
with
the
standard
and
compatible
with
the
historic
pattern
of
development,
historic
pattern
of
development,
within
the
historic
district,
in
within
the
historic
district,
in
which
the
subject
property
is
which
the
subject
property
is
located.
located..
So
this
is
in
addition
to
the
so.
This
is
in
addition
to
the
home
that
is
consistent
with
the
home.
H
The
area,
and
extends
this
house's
desirability
and
house's
desirability
and
relevancy
into
the
21st
relevancy
into
the
21st
century,
quint,
the
development
century,
quint.
The
development
pattern
overall,
and
promotes
pattern
overall,
and
promotes
preservation
of
home
in
a
preservation
of
home
in
a
district
where
an
applicant
district,
where
an
applicant
could
get
a
certificate
of,
could
get
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
to
demolish
a
appropriateness
to
demolish
a
home,
to
build
an
entirely
new
home,
to
build
an
entirely
new
home,,
perhaps
within
the
setback
home,,
perhaps
within
the
setback.
H
But
they
could
build
an
entirely,
but
they
could
build
an
entirely
new
home
with
an
layout,
but
she
new
home
with
an
layout,
but
she
bought
it
because
she
loves
the
bought
it
because
she
loves
the
historic
character,
she's
trying
historic,
character,
she's,
trying
to
simply
modernize
it
in
the
to
simply
modernize
it
in
the
most
minimally
intrusive
way,
most
minimally
intrusive
way.
Possible,,
it
will
look
good,
it
possible,,
it
will
look
good,,
it
will
actually
be.
A
positive
will
actually
be
a
positive
addition
to
the
house.
H
addition
to
the
house.
buyers
in
the
historic
buyers
in
the
historic
preservation
district.
Want
to
preservation
district
want
to
preserve
the
homes,
but
don't
preserve
the
homes,
but
don't
expect
they
can
never
update
expect
they
can
never
update
them
to
modern
standard
and
them
to
modern
standard
and
modern
life.
H
Modern
life.
so
going
to
discuss
the
so
going
to
discuss
the
certificate
of
appropriateness,
certificate
of
appropriateness.
Now,
as
well.
H
H
Here
is
the
additionn
context
of
the
entire
residence.
of
the
entire
residence.,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
as
you
can
see.
There's
a
bump-out
there
and
kind
of
bump-out
there
and
kind
of
balances.
This
out.
balances
this
out..
Here
the
walls
are
both
pretty
here.
The
walls
are
both
pretty
close
on
either
side.
H
H
H
H
So
we
are
going
to
have
the
same
exposed.
Rafters,
overhang,
soffit
exposed
rafters,
overhang
soffit
will
not
be
existing.
Entirely.
will
not
be
existing
entirely..
We
are
going
to
have
hardie,
we
are
going
to
have
hardie
plank,,
smooth,
siding
and
a
color
plank,
smooth,
siding
and
a
color
that
matches
the
existing
home,
that
matches
the
existing
home,
roof.
Materials,
singhm,
will
roof.
Materials,
singhm,
will
match
the
existing
roof.
H
of
the
house,,
the
hardie
trim.
foundation,?
This
is
actually
the
foundation,.
This
is
actually
the
foundation
in
the
corner
of
the
foundation
in
the
corner
of
the
house,
where
the
bump-out
will
house,
where
the
bump-out
will
go.,
go.
and
slab
on
grade
will
match
and
slab
on
grade
will
match
existing.
existing.
and
we
don't
propose
any
and
we
don't
propose
any
hardware
or
lighting
with
this.
H
H
H
H
Changed
less
than
47
square
feet,
doesn't
affect
rhythm,
feet,
doesn't
affect
rhythm,
spacing,
using
same
materials,
spacing,
using
same
materials,,
the
existing
home,,
maintaining
the
existing
home,,
maintaining
materials
used
in
the
district,
materials
used
in
the
district,,
as
well
as
the
trum,.
We
are.
H
H
Keeping
a
window
on
the
north
elevation,
doesn't
affect
elevation,
doesn't
affect
projections.
projections..
We
are
mirroring
the
roof
form.
We
are
mirroring
the
roof
form
of
the
existing
bump-out.
of
the
existing
bump-out.
same
roofing
material
as
the
same
roofing
material
as
the
home.
home.
and
funnel
we
are
including
a
and
funnel.
We
are
including
a
level
of
detail
and
quality
that
level
of
detail
and
quality
that
is
present
in
the
home's.
G
G
Rob
vila:
staff
of
historic,
preservation.,
preservation.
direct.
All
your
questions
at
direct
all
your
questions
at
this
time
to
discuss
the
this
time
to
discuss
the
variance.
variance..
The
agent
did
discuss
that
the
the
agent
did
discuss
that
the
property
owner
to
the
north
property
owner
to
the
north
submitted
a
letter.
submitted
a
letter..
We
have
that
letter
in
the
we
have
that
letter
in
the
record,
here.
record
here..
She
supported
the
prayer
request.
G
B
B
E
B
B
C
C
Find
it
hard
to
understand
why
under
number
2,,
the
hardship
under
number
2,,
the
hardship
criteria,,
that
this
hardship
is
criteria,,
that
this
hardship
is
actually
a
practical
difficulty,
actually
a
practical
difficulty
that
is
not
yet
resolved,
is
that
is
not
yet
resolved,
is
actually
a
result
from
the
actually
a
result
from
the
owner's
desire
to
impact
the
owner's
desire
to
impact
the
addition
into
a
side.
Yard.
C
C
E
E
E
E
E
E
H
E
E
E
stephen
sutton:
correct.
susan
klaussmith:,
but
in
susan
klaussmith:,
but
in
terms
of
your
statement
in
terms
of
your
statement
in
regards
to
making
a
hardship,
or
regards
to
making
a
hardship,
or
having
a
hardship,
the
only
having
a
hardship,.
The
only
hardship
I
see
here
I
know,
is
hardship.
I
see
here
I
know
is
potentially
the
fact
that
the
potentially
the
fact
that
the
accessory
structure,,
which
is
accessory
structure,,
which
is
now
underway,,
may
in
fact
impact.
E
C
C
C
H
H
H
The
back
of
the
house.
again,-
I
am
now
not
sure
how
again,
I
am
now
not
sure
how
useful
that
would
be,
because
the
useful
that
would
be
because
the
way
the
den
is
located,.
I
don't
way
the
den
is
located,.
I
don't
nonif.
We
can
move
doors
without
nonif.
We
can
move
doors
without
starting
to
move
windows,
change,
starting
to
move
windows,
change,
the
entire
back
of
the
house,
in
the
entire
back
of
the
house,
in
terms
of
access
and
facade.
C
H
H
H
Conditions,
the
existing
conditions
having
--
and
having
conditions
having
--
and
having
no
bearing
on
the
existing,
no
bearing
on
the
existing
conditions,,
the
hardship
being
conditions,,
the
hardship
being
the
location
of
the
house,
now,,
the
location
of
the
house,
now,,
the
location
of
the
washer
and
the
location
of
the
washer
and
drier
now.
drier
now..
So
it
really
does
have
anything.
C
C
B
E
H
H
Went
through
with
you,
and
his
comment
--,
and
he
saw
both
of
comment
--
and
he
saw
both
of
these
features
being
shown
on
these
features
being
shown
on
the
site
plan
and
only
come
out
the
site
plan
and
only
come
out
with
respect
to
the
wood
deck
with
respect
to
the
wood
deck
and
the
proposed
--.
There's.
E
E
B
H
H
Rebuttal
as
it
were.,
but
we
have
shown
what
we
but
we
have
shown
what
we
feigned
to
be
substantial,,
feigned
to
be
substantial,
competent
evidence
that
we
meat
competent
evidence
that
we
meat
these
criteria.
the
criteria,
these
criteria.
the
criteria,
two
contemplate
a
practical
two
contemplate
a
practical
difficulty,
which
is
not
the
difficulty
which
is
not
the
petitioner's
hardship.
petitioner's
hardship..
I
think
what
is
contemplated
is.
H
H
H
B
B
zachary
greco:.
I
have
one.
up
like
my
fellow
commissioners,
up
like
my
fellow
commissioners,,
I
am
on
the
opposite
end
of
this.
I
am
on
the
opposite
end
of
this
one.
one..
I
personally
feel
that,
although
I
personally
feel
that,
although
there
could
be
other
options
of
there
could
be
other
options
of
where
you
place,
your
laundry.
B
B
B
B
B
Where
we
would
be
asking
you
to
place
that
bump-out
is
really
place,
that
bump-out
is
really
the
only
exterior
doors
on
that
the
only
exterior
doors
on
that
side.
side..
So
now
we
are
starting
to
look
so
now.
We
are
starting
to
look
at
different
flows
within
the
at
different
flows
within
the
building.
building.,
so
the
existing
layout
of
the
so
the
existing
layout
of
the
interior,
starting
to
change
interior,
starting
to
change
that,.
Changing
the
elevations.
B
That,
changing
the
elevations.
personally,,
I
think
we
did
add
personally,.
I
think
we
did
add
that
portion
of
the
bump-out
and
that
portion
of
the
bump-out
and
it
can
always
be
removed
later
it
can
always
be
removed
later
on,
which
is
something
that's
an
on,
which
is
something
that's
an
addition
you
can
do
to
not
addition.
You
can
do
to
not
drastically
change
it.,
drastically
change,
it.
personally,,
I
don't
necessarily
personally,.
I
don't
necessarily
see
an
issue
of
placement
where.
B
B
C
At
613,
south
oregon
avenue,
with
encroachment
of
2
feet
for
eaves
encroachment
of
2
feet
for
eaves
and
gutters,
be
denied
due
to
the
and
gutters
be
denied,
due
to
the
failure
of
the
petitioner
to
failure
of
the
petitioner
to
meet
the
burden
of
proof
with
meet
the
burden
of
proof.
With
respect
to
all
six
of
the
respect
to
all
six
of
the
hardship
criteria
set
forth
city.
C
Of
tampa
code
of
ordinances,,
specifically
that
the
alleged
specifically
that
the
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty,
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
has
not
been
shown
to
be
unique,
has
not
been
shown
to
be
unique
and
singular
with
respect
to
the
and
singular
with
respect
to
the
property
in
question,
and
that,
property
in
question,
and
that,
two,.
The
hardship
or
practical.
B
B
B
F
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
A
A
A
A
With
the
route.
parking,,
this
is
the
dashed
loon
parking,.
This
is
the
dashed
loon
of
parking
that
you
saw
on
the
of
parking
that
you
saw
on
the
street.
street.,
so
we
are
proposing
to
do
a
tan,
so
we
are
proposing
to
do
a
tan.
Deny
parking
spot
off.
The
alley
deny
parking
spot
off
the
alley
for
two
cars,
so
we
can
get
the
for
two
cars,
so
we
can
get
the
parking
to
conform.
parking
to
conform..
We
do
have
an
option
to
do
a.
A
A
Look
at
this
parking
option
to
conform
to
the
area
association
conform
to
the
area
association.
That's
an
option.
We
do
have.,
that's
an
option.
We
do
have..
Another
option
is
to
keep
the
another
option
is
to
keep
the
existing
wood
fence
to
kind
of
existing
wood
fence
to
kind
of
shield
parking
on
the
street
and.
A
Shield
parking
on
the
street
and
vegetation
there.
vegetation
there.
to
do
circular
parking.
We
would
to
do
circular
parking.
We
would
have
to
remove
one
small
tree
have
to
remove
one
small
tree
and
relocate
it,
but
that
is
also
and
relocate
it,
but
that
is
also
an
option.,
an
option..
We
are
going
to
look
at.
A
A
A
Keeping
it
as
it
was
originally
designed.
designed.
moving
to
the
first
floor,
here.
Moving
to
the
first
floor,
here
is
the
proposed
plan..
Is
the
proposed
plan.
really,?
The
idea?
Is
they
really,
the
idea?
Is
they
reconfigured
the
back
portion
of
reconfigured,
the
back
portion
of
the
house,
and
the
backyard,.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
We
are
proposing
doing
the
hey
definition,
asphalt,
shingles
definition,
asphalt,
shingles,
which
I
think
they
have
right,
which
I
think
they
have
right
now,
but
they
are
at
the
end
of
now,
but
they
are
at
the
end
of
their
life
span.,
their
life
span..
The
porch
showed
really
just
the
porch
showed
really
just
secondary
utility
roof.
A
Secondary
utility
roof.
for
the
windows,
matching
the
for
the
windows,
matching
the
windows
with
wood
windows.
windows
with
wood
windows..
There
are
a
photons
companies
in
there
are
a
photons
companies
in
seminole
heights
and
hyde
park,
seminole
heights
and
hyde
park
area
that
will
match
the
windows
area
that
will
match
the
windows
constructionwise,,
so
they
would
constructionwise,,
so
they
would
be
identical
to
that.,
be
identical
to
that.,
and
here
is
an
option
for
the,
and
here
is
an
option
for
the
door,,
the
cross
panel.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
It
really
reduces
the
one-story
to
pull
away
from
that.
Second,
to
pull
away
from
that
second
window,
we
were
going
to
remove
window.
We
were
going
to
remove
here.
here..
So
that's
something
that
we
are
so
that's
something
that
we
are
willing
to
do,
with
additional
willing
to
do,
with
additional
square
footage,
to
create
the.
A
A
A
B
I
The
staff
report.
elaine
lund:
staff
find
this
elaine
lund:
staff
find
this
application
is
consistent
with
application
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
design,
the
seminole
heights
design,
guidelines.
guidelines.,
you
can
see
in
the
staff
report
you
can
see
in
the
staff
report
that
we
did
have
a
few.
I
I
I
believe
the
applicant
did
review
some
of
the
site
review
some
of
the
site
conditions
and
con
restaurants,
conditions
and
con
restaurants.
There.
there.
primarily
that
the
accessory
primarily
that
the
accessory
building,,
which
may
have
built
building,,
which
may
have
built
as
a
garage,
is
no
longer
in
use.
I
I
I
I
B
B
C
Commissioners
will
now
ask
questions.
questions.:
would
anyone
lake
to
begin?
would
anyone
lake
to
begin?
stephen
sutton:?
I
have
two
stephen
sutton:.
I
have
two
items
that
I
would
like
items
that
I
would
like.
Clarified.,
clarified.
and
part
of
that
was
touched
by
and
part
of
that
was
touched
by
our
staff
members
hear.,
our
staff
members
hear..
Could
you
please
refer
back
to.
A
A
C
We
have
water
heater
back
here.
between
the
windows.
between
the
windows.
stephen
sutton:,
so
that's
stephen
sutton:.
So
that's
going
to
continue
to
both
going
to
continue
to
both
service
your
existing
building
service,
your
existing
building,
as
well
as
your
new
addition,,
as
well
as
your
new
addition,
correct?
correct?
yes,
sir.
yes,
sir.,
stephen
sutton:.
That
is
stephen
sutton:.
That
is
screened
by
a
fence?.
A
C
C
This
plan,,
I
think
that
you
have
developed
a
sympathetic
parking
developed,
a
sympathetic
parking
plan,,
although
tandem
can
plan,,
although
tandem
can
sometimes
be
kind
of
difficult,
sometimes
be
kind
of
difficult
to
live,
with,
upon
indication
to
live
with,
upon
indication
that
you
have
both
a
variety
of
that
you
have
both
a
variety
of
entrance
and
existing
points
for
entrance
and
existing
points
for
this
between
the
alley
and
this
between
the
alley
and
mohawk
avenue.
mohawk
avenue..
I
think
even
with
that
sweet
I
think,
even
with
that
sweet
connection
into
mohawk
would
be.
C
C
B
C
Located.,
stephen
sutton:,
that's
stephen
sutton:,
that's
correct.
correct.!
So
are
you
suggesting
that
so
are
you
suggesting
that
add
that
in?
add
that
in?
stephen
sutton:
no,,
I
believe
stephen
sutton:
no,.
I
believe
it's
an
option,,
it's
well!
It's
an
option,!
It's
well
thought
out.
thought
out.!
That's
the
nature
of
my
comment.
C
C
A
C
C
Will,
for
periodic
spacing.,
probably
little
port
holes.,
probably
little
port
holes.
stephen
sutton:-
and
this
is
stephen
sutton:-
and
this
is
basically
to
be
concrete
block,
basically
to
be
concrete
block
for
all
practical
purposes,
you
for
all
practical
purposes,.
You
are
going
to
have
finish
that
are
going
to
have
finish
that
same
rough
texture
as
the
front.
A
E
A
A
It's
a
secondary
kind
of
roof.
Structure.
structure.!
It's
very
clear
to
me
that
it's
it's
very
clear
to
me
that
it's
really
back
of
houses,
how
it
was
really
back
of
houses,
how
it
was
treated,
originally.
treated
originally..
To
me,
that
was
a
valuable
to
me.
That
was
a
valuable
portion
of
the
house.
portion
of
the
house..
So
that's
why
we
chose
to
do
the
so
that's
why
we
chose
to
do
the
addition.
There.
E
E
E
E
A
E
E
E
E
E
A
A
E
B
I'm
sorry.
zachary
greco:,
I
would
tend
zachary
greco:.
I
would
tend
to
agree
with
my
fellow
to
agree
with
my
fellow
commissioners.
commissioners.
lou
at
the
front
of
the
house
on
lou
at
the
front
of
the
house
on
this.
this.
and
then
loon
at
the
back
of
the
and
then
loon
at
the
back
of
the
house.
house..
I
would
almost
say
under
the
I
would
almost
say
under
the
circumstances.
Two
completely
circumstances,
two
completely
different
houses.
B
B
B
B
B
B
A
A
The
bumpoff
is
not
100%
matching
to
distinguish
from
the
matching
to
distinguish
from
the
old
structure,
to
the
new
old
structure,
to
the
new
structure.
structure..
They
could
be
removed
at
a
later.
They
could
be
removed
at
a
later
point
and
the
original
structure
point
and
the
original
structure
is
intact.
is
intact..
I
think
that's
why
we
took
a.
B
B
B
B
A
A
B
B
B
A
A
A
B
About
here.,
so
I
couldn't
step
back
that,
so
I
couldn't
step
back
that
portion
of
that
mass.
portion
of
that
mass.
zachary
greco:
and
that
zachary
greco:
and
that
center
pain
between
those
center
pain
between
those
windows,.
I
did
understand
windows,.
I
did
understand
correctly
that
the
intention
of
correctly
that
the
intention
of
that
was
to
allow
for
the.
A
A
B
B
A
A
I
wanted
to
pull
it
off
the
front
grade.
front,
grade.
rate,
now
the
horizontal
wood
rate.
Now
the
horizontal
wood
touches
grade
and
I
didn't
want
touches
grade
and
I
didn't
want
to
replicate
that.
to
replicate
that..
I
wanted
to
do
that
with
the
I
wanted
to
do
that
with
the
foundation
and
the
block.
A
B
B
A
A
Foundation,,
I
think
the
idea
of
the
front
column,
back
down
the
the
front
column,
back
down
the
pier,
rests
right
on
grade,,
so
pier
rests
right
on
grade,,
so
kind
of
taking
that
language
kind
of
taking
that
language
that
was
taken
from
the
stucco
that
was
taken
from
the
stucco
base
is
kind
of
how
we
bring
up
base
is
kind
of
how
we
bring
up
portions
of
the
language
portions
of
the
language,
applying
the
house
to
the
back.,
applying
the
house
to
the
back.
that
being
said,
in
the
staff.
B
That
being
said,
in
the
staff
report,,
we
are
comfortable
with
report,.
We
are
comfortable
with
that.
that..
I
think
that's
it.,
I
think
that's
it.
thank
you.
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you.
zachary
greco:
thank
you..
At
this
point,
we
will
close
the
at
this
point.
We
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
the
public
hearing
and
the
commissioners
will
now
begin.
Commissioners
will
now
begin
discussing
the
case.
D
D
Different
from
the
existing
structures.
structures.
staff
might
have
brought
up
to
staff,
might
have
brought
up
to
be
removed
at
a
later
date.,
be
removed
at
a
later
date..
That's
original
structure.,
that's
original
structure..
There
are
some
conflicts,.
I
there
are
some
conflicts,.
I
think,
with
the
way
the
new
think,
with
the
way
the
new
structure
is
being
added.,
structure
is
being
added.
and
then
sort
of
the
departure.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
E
E
E
The
ideas
behind
the
guidelines.,
I
agree
that
the
form
and
the
I
agree
that
the
form
and
the
massing
are
quite
nice.
massing
are
quite
nice..
I
especially
like
the
fact
that
I
especially
like
the
fact
that
you
did
remove
the
hip
roof,
and
you
did
remove
the
hip
roof,
and
even
if
it
was
a
historic,
even
if
it
was
a
historic
element,.
E
E
E
B
B
Kind
of
first
off,,
the
larger,,
the
form
and
mass,,
I
think,
works
the
form
and
mass,.
I
think,
works
great
with
the
existing
house.
great
with
the
existing
house..
I
think
what
happens
is
you
I
think
what
happens?
Is
you
start
to
get
into
the
details,
start
to
get
into
the
details,?
You
start
to
lose
some
of
the
you
start
to
lose
some
of
the
identity
of
the
existing
house.
B
C
C
E
E
C
B
F
Commissioner,
like
to
make
a
motion?,
motion?,
camaria
pettis-mackle:
legal
camaria,
pettis-mackle:
legal
department.
department.,
so
if
the
board
--,
if
the
so,
if
the
board
--,
if
the
commissioners
are
considering
commissioners
are
considering
whether
to
make
a
motion
to
whether
to
make
a
motion
to
continue
it,
that
has
not
been
continue.
It,
that
has
not
been
brought
up
by
the
applicant,
so
brought
up
by
the
applicant,.
So
I
don't
know
if
the
applicant,
I
don't
know
if
the
applicant
wants
that
to
be
the
action.
B
B
A
B
B
B
B
If
we
are
asked
that
question?
hernandez
hernandez,
I
think,
if
hernandez
hernandez,
I
think
if
you
are
just
asked
procedure
you
you
are
just
asked
procedure
you
can
do.
That.
can
do
that.,
zachary,
greco:,
so
basically
zachary
greco:,
so
basically
asked
to
make
a
recommendation
asked
to
make
a
recommendation
based
on
what
we
have
seen.