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When
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details
and
wall
sections
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report.
We
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
E
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
go
by
very
quickly
following
public
comment,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
The
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
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G
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J
Good
afternoon
our
good
evening,
kamaria
pedesta,
michael
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
will
the
commissioners
please
state
whether
or
not
they
have
any
conflicts
of
interest.
Regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda,
I
haven't.
J
None
thank
you.
Additionally.
Will
the
commissioner's
please
state
on
the
record
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte
communication
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda?
No.
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F
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C
There
are
two
parts
to
the
request
this
evening.
The
first
part
is
a
variance
there's
a
rear
yard
setback,
reduction
from
20
foot
to
7
foot,
with
no
encroachments
for
eaves
and
gutters,
and
if
the
variance
gets
approved,
then
we'll
move
on
to
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for,
in
addition
to
the
primary
structure,
there's
two
ancillary
buildings
attached
to
this
request
with
site
improvements,
the
agent
is
aware
that
he
has
10
minutes
to
move
forward
for
the
variance
and
then
we'll
have
discussion
on
that.
C
At
this
time,
moving
through
the
photo
presentation
on
the
monitors
that
everybody
has
in
front
of
them,
hopefully
there's
the
sanborn
map
from
1929
property
in
question
is
highlighted
in
the
green
parcel.
There
is
a
16-foot
alley
that
runs
north
and
south
behind
the
parcel.
This
is
a
corner
lot.
It
faces
inman
and
newport.
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C
This
property
owner
bought
half
of
it
and
then
the
abutting
property
owner
to
the
north
purchased
the
other
half.
So
this
parcel
grew
towards
the
north
zoning's
classification
as
they
went
through
the
process,
as
that
inman
was
the
front.
So
the
variance
request
is
on
this
proper
line.
The
north
property
line,
the
reduction
from
20
foot
to
seven
foot.
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C
This
is
the
new
accessory
structure,
two-story
and
just
a
couple
of
shots
to
finish
the
presentation.
This
is
looking
down
the
alley
in
the
condition
of
the
alley
subject.
Site
is
to
the
right.
This
is
looking
back
towards
inman
and
the
last
photo.
This
is
looking
down
the
alley
to
the
north.
That
concludes
the
photo
presentation
at
this
time.
The
owner
and
the
agents
could
address
the
podium
and
address
the
variance
only.
K
Good
evening,
mr
chairman
commissioners,
my
name
is
mark
bentley,
401,
east
jackson,
street
tampa
33602.
I,
along
with
albert
alfonso,
represent
the
applicants
before
I
get
started
and
you
start
the
meter
on
me.
I've
got
a
handout,
it's
simply
a
section
of
the
city
code.
I
want
to
go
over
with
with
the.
K
K
Okay,
I'd
like
to
just
a
point
of
order
is
we're
going
to
deal
with
the
variance
first
and
then
the
board
would
act
on
the
variance
the
commission
would
act
on
the
variance,
correct,
okay,
I'd
like
to
address
the
threshold
issue.
K
The
justification
for
the
variance
on
the
northern
property
boundary,
which
functions
as
the
side
yard,
and
what
happened
or
didn't
happen
is
when
the
city
enacted
its
code,
which
I
think
was
in
the
in
the
in
the
50s
and
most
recent
iteration
of
the
code
is
1987,
is
where
it
determines
that
if
you're
on
a
corner,
the
front
of
your
property
is
considered
the
narrowest
or
shortest.
K
That's
why
no
variance
was
required
so
there's
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
confusion
historically
in
how
you
treat
the
property.
So
the
reason
of
variance
was
required
for
that.
Building
that
subject
demolition
is
it
exceeded
the
accessory
structure,
limitation,
height
limitation
of
15
feet,
but
I'll
get
into
that
a
little
bit
more.
K
The
subject:
property
presents
unique
circumstances
in
several
respects,
and
the
fact
that
the
house
was
built
in
1925
prior
to
the
enactment
of
the
city's
code
has
created
the
challenge
here
and
actually
imposed
the
hardship
on
the
client
unique
circumstances.
I
have
a
graphic
here
shows
this
area
hyde
park.
As
you
can
see.
K
K
I
think
speaks
volumes
is
this
is
a
plat
of
the
area
and
I
know
it's
a
little
difficult
to
see,
but
this
is
recorded
in
19
in
june
1911,
and
this
is
pretty
typical
for
hyde
park
in
south
tampa.
You
can
see
on
these
plats.
They
had
something
that
they
called
the
building
line.
You
see
a
little
hatch
mark
and
that
was
essentially
the
front
yard
setback
and
it
was
required
to
be
built
to
that
setback
line.
K
In
this
case
the
plat
require
a
30
foot
development
line,
so
the
client
or
the
property,
or
at
that
point
in
time
when
they
built
the
house,
they
have
had
absolutely
no
discretion
to
have
the
front
edge
on
the
inman
side.
Okay,
that
would
have
been
a
breach
of
the
covenant.
It's
enforceable
actually
there's
in
the
last
few
years,
there's
still
litigation
concerning
these
building
lines
because,
for
example,
in
this
situation,
the
building
line
is
30
feet,
whereas
the
rs-60
zoning
only
requires
25
foot
setback,
so
you're
kind
of
gambling.
K
K
K
I
gave
you
this
handout
here,
it's
a
code
section
and
you
can
see
section,
one
is
what
we're
dealing
with
and
why
we're
here
on
the
variance,
if
you're
on
a
corner,
lot,
etc,
etc,
says
the
shortest
boundary.
But
when
you
go
down
to
number
six,
they
contemplate
exactly
the
situation
we're
dealing
with
here
and
it
allows
administrative
discretion
actually
short
of
pursuing
a
variance
before
a
board
like
this.
If
there's
a
historical
development
pattern,
you
can
see
on
number
six.
K
It
says
on
those
corner:
lots
where
there's
a
clear
established
historical
pattern
of
one
street
having
a
front
yard
orientation
contrary
to
one
and
three
above.
If
you
look
at
one
and
three
above
it's,
you
know
the
corner
lot
or
double
front
lots.
It
says
that
the
zoning
administrator
making
an
inter
determination
can
she'll
consider
the
following
the
plat
structures,
lot
frontage
things
like
that,
so
the
code
in
and
of
itself
contemplates
a
situation
we're
dealing
with.
So
arguably
there
would
have
been
an
opportunity
administratively
to
pursue.
K
K
So
I
mentioned
the
plat
when
I
started
doing
research
on
this.
I
said.
Let
me
just
pull
a
couple
properties
in
close
proximity
just
to
see
if
there
are
kind
of
any
examples
that
are
similar
or
mirror
images
actually
of
the
subject.
So
this
is
the
adjacent
corner.
The
subject
property
is
located
right
here,
where
I'm
pointing
and
there's
this
house
on
inman.
Here,
it's
it's
not
on
inman.
Actually
the
address
is
801
south
delaware.
You
can
see
it's
exactly
like
the
subject
property.
It
has.
K
Three
lots,
has
a
delaware
address,
but
the
frontage
is
on
inman.
Okay,
then
we
go
down
to
morrison
and
orleans
same
situation.
Three
lots
orleans
address
the
frontage,
the
front
yard
per
the
city's
code,
section
that
I
just
gave
you
would
be
on
morrison,
so
that's
kind
of
the
way,
the
world
the
way
that
area
of
hyde
park.
K
I
think
in
the
magnitude
of
25
feet
down
to
12
or
13
feet,
and
the
only
difference
is
the
setback
right
now,
as
I
mentioned,
is
either
nine
foot
one
inch
or
two
inch
going
to
seven
feet.
K
This
very
same
yard
was
treated
as
a
side
yard
and
now
we're
in
a
situation-
and
I
don't
know
if
the
code
changed
or
not
to
be
honest
with
you
that
was
2004
and
we're
17
years
later,
but
now
we're
treating
it
as
a
rear
yard.
K
So
I
think
that's
important
as
well,
so
I
know
I
only
had
10
minutes
and
I'd
appreciate
if
the
arc
would
receive
and
file
the
documents
I
presented.
I
just
have
one
copy
and
I
can
give
those
to
ron
or
dennis
at
the
appropriate
time.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'll,
certainly
attempt
to
answer
them.
Thanks.
E
K
Yeah,
the
I'll
kind
of
paraphrase
the
the
code
is
to
justify
variants
has
to
be
in
harmony
with
the
historic
district
regulations
and
albert
will
get
in,
and
we
presented
that
we
believe
they
are
consistent.
Substantial
justice
has
to
be
done.
We
believe
that
would
be
equitable
in
this
situation,
because
the
client
did
not
create
the
hardship.
K
K
So
that's
really
on
the
city
for
doing
that,
not
self-created,
and
certainly
in
terms
of
unique
circumstances.
I
mean
this
is
a
textbook
case
of
that
I
mean
you've
got
a
significant
contributing
structure.
One
of
the
most
significant
structures
in
the
city
of
tampa
you've
got
a
neat
unique
situation
where
they've
got
a
building
construction
line
that
mandated
that
the
house
be
oriented
toward
newport.
H
E
E
K
I'm
mike
collins,
I
definitely
have
skin
in
the
game
here,
because
my
wife
and
I
just
bought
a
house
at
720
south
willow,
which
is
one
block
to
the
south,
the
same
lot,
one
block
to
the
south,
and
you
know
we
stretched
to
get
the
house
so
the
the
way
the
neighborhood
is
is
very
important
to
us,
and
you
know
that
we
strongly
support
the
the
applications
tonight.
C
E
Thank
you
all
right
at
this
point.
We
will.
The
commissioners
will
now
ask
questions
for
the
variants.
Only
the
commissioner
like
to
begin,
commissioner
clothsmith.
E
I
have
two
questions
for
you.
First
would
be
so
looking
at
the
presentation
from
staff,
the
original
property
sat
on
two
parcels
or
two
pieces
of
land.
It
now
encompasses
three,
so
my
understanding
is
because
of
the
the
code
with
that
additional
lot
kind
of
split
between
or
a
gain.
That's
what
triggered
the
change
for
the
frontage
correct.
K
No,
the
frontage
that
vacant
lot
was
always
subject
to
the
flat
building
line
the
30
feet.
So
whether
the
original
home
was
on
two
or
three
lots
is
pretty
irrelevant
so,
but
when
they
did
acquire
the
third
lot-
and
I
don't
know
if
that
predated
zoning
or
not
or
if
there
was
a
structure
there
prior
to
the
maybe
ron
knows
prior
to
the
one
that's
being
demolished,
I'm
not
sure,
but
all
of
those
lots,
including
the
one
that's
contiguous
to
the
north
treated.
E
I
guess
maybe
to
rephrase
the
question
I
understand
based
off
the
historic
kind
of
precedence,
that's
where
the
building
line
was
in
terms
of
where
the
front
is,
but
for
the
code.
If
the
code
takes
what's
the
shortest
kind
of
frontage
of
the
site.
Is
that
what
triggered
the
change
as
as
the
site
kind
of
got
wider?
That
side
yard
became?
What
would
be
not.
K
As
it
got
wider,
it
triggered
the
change.
Forget
the
client
even
bought
the
third
lot
and
built
the
garage
on
it.
Okay,
the
house
was
constructed
1925
14
years
after
the
plat
and
then
sometime
in
the
either
the
50s
or
the
80s.
The
city
enacted
this
code
and
this
property
I
overlooked
at
one
point:
it
has
absolutely
no
access
off
inman,
it
never
has
since
1925,
okay,
so
acquiring
the
third
lot
really
didn't
do
anything.
You
could
have
never
put
a
front
for
take.
Take
away
the
client's
two
lots.
K
If
you
had
that
third
vacant
lot,
you
could
have
never
had
frontage.
It
wouldn't
be
subject
number
one
to
this
rule
we're
talking
about
because
it
only
deals
with
corner
lots.
Okay,
so
this
hypothetical,
you
know
the
only
front
you
could
have
on
that.
Third
lot
would
have
been
newport,
so
go
ahead.
Albert
alfonso
alfonso,
architects,
zach
just
to
add
it
was
still
narrower,
even
okay,
without
it.
E
K
K
I
mean
that's
a
that's
a
good
question.
I
mean
if
we're
kind
of
reorienting
the
whole
thing
here
is
that
we're
not
suggesting
that
we
want
to
change
the
identification
of
all
the
various
lots,
we're
we're
just
saying
we
want
to
encroach
in
one
what
technically
is
considered
by
the
city
and
we
think
inappropriately
a
very
yacht
law.
K
Okay,
okay,
so
if
you,
if
you
made,
for
example,
the
alley
side,
respect
the
rs-60
setback
requirements,
that
would
be
seven
feet
and
looking
at
the
survey,
this
is
a
structure
that
can't
be
altered
at
all,
but
it's,
I
think
it's
right
on
the
alleyway,
which
is
pretty
typical
for
for
hyde
park.
F
F
It
it
sounds
like
this
complaint
was
actually
entered
and
investigated
by
the
city,
and
but
it
doesn't
really
unders
it.
Doesn't.
This
letter
doesn't
tell
us
what
the
resultant
of
that
conclusion.
J
Kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
The
letter
is
just
an
letter
from
the
public,
but
it
has
nothing
to
do
with
what's
before
the
board.
Those
are
two
separate
issues.
K
But
just
to
can
I
make
one
comment
on
that
and
then
I'll
I'll
be
done.
Mr
chairman
sure,
concerning
that
letter
I
I
just
caught
wind
of
it
tonight
took
a
quick
glance,
but
in
any
event,
just
to
clear
my
client's
good
name
because
of
some
of
the
allegations
in
the
letter
they
ultimately
got
a
tree
permit.
I
think
ron
has
a
copy
and
what
happened
essentially
was
there's
a
contradiction
of
the
code.
The
tree
that
was
removed
was
a
camper
which,
under
the
code,
is
considered
a
nuisance
species.
K
E
D
My
fellow
commissioners
would
probably
recognize
that
I'm
particularly
not
a
major
fan
of
zoning
variances
with
respect
to
our
historic
properties,
but
I
do
recognize
the
historical
pattern
of
hyde
park
and
the
nature
of
this
residential
dwelling
on
this
lot
by
virtue
of
covenant,
which
is
baked
into
the
development
and
planning
of
of
hyde
park.
Emin
is
the
front
street.
F
D
D
Oh,
we
document
regarding
section
27,
161
e
of
the
determination
of
yards
under
six
you
mentioned
6a.
I
also
see
a
compliance
with
6b,
which
is
existing
structures
on
both
the
property
and
adjacent
properties
with
regard
to
their
orientation
to
the
main
street
is
also
in
compliance
and
that,
on
item
d,
the
existing
historical
president,
with
respect
to
curb
cuts
and
right-of-way
access
to
and
from
a
lot
are
consistent
with.
F
That
they
have
to
meet,
they
meet
almost
every
one
of
them,
in
my
opinion,
except
for
number
one.
So
this
is
where
we
we
falter
consistently.
I
think
when
we
talk
about
these
variants
requests
historically,
I'm
a
huge
proportion
proponent
of
the
urban
pattern.
It's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
joined
this
board.
I
think
it's
very
important
to
maintain
those
patterns
more
than
more
even
more
than
the.
J
You
know,
and
and
camarilla
pedestal
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
what
the
agent
provided.
You
was
a
reference
guide,
that's
not
the
hardship
criteria
that
you
have
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
agent
satisfied
the
hardship
criteria
is
the
questions
that
were
answered
on
the
submitted
in
the
application
form.
That's
the
hardship
criteria
that
the
board
has
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
agent
and
the
applicant
met.
E
And-
and
I
would
tend
to
agree,
I
think,
from
a
historical
standpoint,
absolutely
correct
the
one
that
I'm
struggling
with,
which
is
the
same
one
as
you
is
on
number
one.
It
was
presented
to
us
from
the
agent
that
there
were
multiple
homes
almost
directly
across
the
street
or
kind
of
catty
corner
that
had
an
existing
the.
H
F
F
With
regard
to
the
six
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-114,
subsection
d
of
the
city
of
tampa
code
of
ordinances,
specifically
that
it
does
not
meet
the
criteria
number
one,
that
there
is
an
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
that
are
unique
and
senior
with
respect
to
the
property
or
with
respect
to
a
structure
or
building
they're
on
and
are
not
those
suffered
in
common
with
other
other
property
structures
or
buildings.
Similarly,
located.
E
And
then,
before
we
vote
just
make
sure
you
also
raise
your.
F
J
Kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
so
the
board
just
voted
to
made
a
motion
to
deny
the
variance
request
and
that
motion
to
deny
was
approved
by
account
from
four
to
two,
but
your
client
also
has
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
will
be
continued
to
the
next
agenda
whenever
the
next
agenda
is,
but
the
variance
portion
that
motion
has
been
made
and
it
has
been
voted
on
so
that
portion
is
not
going
to
be
continued.
Your
certificate
of
appropriateness
will
be.
J
Mariah
from
the
city
attorney's
office
and
again
mr
bentley,
that
they've
already
voted
on
at
that
time
to
have
asked
for
an
additional
time
or
to
that
was
before
the
motion
was
made.
K
J
I
I
respectfully,
mr
bentley
that
the
time
to
ask
for
that
additional
time
was
before
before
the
motion
was
voted
on.
The
the
commission
is
already
voted
on.
The
variance
you're
you're,
the.
A
You
so
based
on
the
denial
of
the
variance
dennis
fernandez,
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager.
The
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
not
able
to
go
forward,
because
that
is
contingent
on
the
site
plan
and
the
variants.
So
if
the
application
concurs,
I
would
recommend
that
that
item
be
denied
continued
in
order
to
preserve
their
notice.
A
If
that's
the
decision-
and
they
agree
with
that,
the
next
available
opportunity
is
in
july
july,
the
12th
would
be
the
date,
so
we'd
want
to
get
their
concurrence
to
that
date.
Before
we
make
a
motion.
K
H
A
B
716
south
newport
avenue
to
the
july
12th
2021
public
hearing
at
6,
00
pm
hi.
Second,
in
motion.
E
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
And
this
is
a
new
construction,
that's
across
comanche
to
the
south,
just
another
vantage
point
of
that
structure
and
to
conclude
with
a
couple
of
street
shots.
This
is
looking
down
the
street
similar
to
the
north
and
turning
around
subject.
Site
is
over
here.
So
it
is
a
corner
parcel
within
the
seminole
heights
historic
district.
At
this
time,
the
agent
can
just
the
board
first,
he
needs
to
get
sworn
in,
so
miss
chuzak
will
swear
him
in
at
this.
H
L
L
L
L
They
did
not
want
a
garage,
but
they
didn't
want
storage,
and
I
had
convinced
them
that
they
wanted
to
do
a
group,
but
they
need
to
do
a
garage
for
future.
If
they
decide
to
sell
the
property,
a
garage
would
be
very
desirable,
so
they're
not
going
to
be
using
this
garage,
but
it's
being
developed
that
way
and
that's
why
we
have
some
of
the
transportation
comments
and
speaking
of
transportation
comments.
L
This
driveway
is
existing.
It's
been
there
for
almost
10
years.
I
believe
not
have.
We
have
not
been
able
to
find
any
permit
for
when
that
was
put
in.
So
transportation
has
told
us
that
we
have
to
remove
this
at
least
this
portion
of
the
driveway,
because
it
doesn't
meet
the
minimum
distance
from
a
cur
a
corner
to
an
entrance
to
a
driveway.
L
So
all
this
lightly
shaded
area
is
existing
driveway
and
so
we're
basically
just
going
to
extend
that
driveway
back.
So
this
area
right
here,
is
what's
providing
the
minimum
required
parking
for
the
code
and
then
the
so
the
building
we
basically
justified
it
to
the
alley,
so
we're
three
feet
off
the
alley
and
then
we're
four
feet
from
the
north
property
line.
L
If
the
setback
is
three
feet
but
the
to
meet
the
fire
code
with
overhangs
and
the
distance
from
combustible
materials
to
the
property
line
and
the
overhang
four
feet
is
the
closest
we
could
be
on
the
north
and
then
the
massing
of
the
building
is
primarily
a
north
south
orientation
with
the
main
ridge
running
north
south.
But
then
coming
off
to
the
side
is
another
smaller
gable
to
enforce
the
reinforce
the
view
corridor
with
the
garage
door
entrance.
L
One
of
the
things
I
omitted
on
the
drawings
was
the
air
conditioning.
I
know
everybody
always
asks
about
the
air
conditioning.
We're
just
gonna
have
like
a
small
mini
split,
so
it's
gonna
be
in
this
corner.
Here,
there's
a
very
light
line
here,
it's
kind
of
like
a
beige
or
brown
line
that
goes
around
here
and
that's
the
existing
wood
fence
and
there's
a
gate
right
here.
That's
not
going
to
remain
so.
The
air
conditioning
is
behind
that.
So
this
is
what
the
fence
looks
like
right
here.
L
L
L
At
the
end,
this
is
a
covered
porch
facing
facing
the
house,
so
you
have
some
outdoor
living
here
and
then
you
have
a
small
walkway
to
to
a
separate
a
person
entrance
to
the
garage,
and
then
this
space
is
just
a
simple
one:
bedroom
with
the
a
great
room,
and
then
you
know
like
a
not
a
kitchenette,
not
a
kitchen,
but
you
know
just
a
sink
microwave
and
things
like
that.
It
is
also
set
up
to.
If
they
do
want
to
do
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
the
future.
L
I
did
a
a
beam
or
head
casing
here
which
matches
the
the
beam
detail
on
the
front
porch
in
the
main
house
before
I
had
the
siding
just
coming
right
down
to
the
bottom
of
the
beam,
which
is
actually
done
a
lot
in
summer
heights,
the
door,
doors
and
windows,
just
a
single
hung,
type
windows,
I'll
talk
about
the
details
of
those
and
then
just
a
very
simple
craftsman
style
door.
L
L
You
can
see
it's
wider,
so
it
has
a
higher
higher
ridge.
Just
simple
pair
of
double
hung
windows
centered
here
and
then
you
have
the
porch
here,
the
overall
height
they
wanted
kind
of
tall
spaces
on
the
inside
and
so
we're
doing
10
feet
instead
of
eight
feet,
to
give
them
a
little
bit
more
room.
Let's
see.
L
K
L
Let
me
zoom
out
a
little
bit
okay,
so
this
is
the
elevation
facing
the
alley.
We
have
a
pair
of
high
windows,
which
is
basically
the
top
half
of
these
single
hung
windows
and
that
will
allow
them
to
have
put
furniture
under
the
window
and
also
security
being
on
the
alley.
Even
though
this
is
behind
the
fence.
L
This
is
a
standard
size
window,
because
it's
in
a
sleeping
room
so
that
we
are
required
to
have
a
larger
window
for
that
and
then
the
back
of
the
garage
has
no
windows,
and
then
the
north
side
is
just
a
couple
high
windows
in
the
garage
for
for
natural
light.
On
the
north
side,
you
can
see
this
cable
matches
the
gable
on
the
south
side,
and
then
you
see
the
the
side
of
the
smaller
gable
which
faces
west.
L
We
have
a
couple
high
windows
in
the
upper
part
of
the
gable,
and
that's
because
I
did
a
similar
accessory
building
about
10
years
ago
down
in
south
tampa,
and
we
did
a
little
kid
area
over
the
garage
and
my
clients
really
like
that
idea,
so
that
that's
also
why
having
the
10
foot
helps
get
a
little
bit
more
kind
of
usable
space.
Above
the.
L
Garage
the
window
details
on
this
house
are
typical
on
probably
like
90
percent
of
the
houses
in
seminole
heights,
so
basically
starting
at
the
bottom,
you
have
the
heavy
sill
substill
and
they
have
the
window
unit
and
then
for
the
head
casing.
You
have
inch
and
a
half
head
casing.
Then
you
have
a
drip
cap
and
then
for
the
for
the
jam.
L
It's
the
same.
This
is
similar
detail
and
the
width
of
the
jam
will
match
what
we
have
on
the
house,
which
is
usually
around
four
and
a
half
or
four
and
three
quarters,
and
then
the
the
mullion
in
the
middle
a
little
bit
wider
to
sort
of
represent.
You
know
the
wider
width
because
of
the
weight
pockets
and
then
the
elevation
of
the
window.
L
L
On
the
wall
section
just
I'll
start
at
the
bottom
again,
we
just
have
a
monolithic,
concrete
slab,
two
by
four
frame
walls
with
a
smooth
hardy
lap,
siding
which
will
match
the
exposure
of
the
existing
house.
I
talked
about
the
window
details
the
on
the
eaves,
that's
a
very
important
character,
defining
detail
on
these
homes,
so
we
have
the
exposed,
2x6
rafter
tail.
L
This
is
actually
the
bar
draft
or
beyond,
which
is
typically
one
size
bigger,
and
then
we
have
the
the
three
quarter,
inch
finished
deck,
dunking
groove
facing
down,
and
then
plywood
goes
over
that
and
that
all
extends
about
an
inch
beyond
the
outer
plum.
That's
about
plumb
wrong!
The
outer
end
of
the
rafter.
By
about
an
inch,
the
the
gable
section,
basically
cuts
through
the
the
gable
at
the
where
we
have
the
jerking
head
roof
it
has.
The
it's
like
a
clip.
Gable
is
another
name
for
it.
L
This
is
the
same
slope
as
the
as
the
the
the
other,
the
other
roofs,
and
then
you
and
then
you
have
these
four
by
six
brackets
or
corbels
that
have
a
chamfer
on
the
end
to
match
the
existing
and
again
you
can
see
the
the
v
board
and
I
just
realized-
I
didn't
show
the
the
the
vent
here,
but
we
will
have
a
vent,
a
simulated
vent
to
match
what's
on
the
existing
house
and
then
then
we're
going
to
do
spray
foam
insulation,
which
is
instead
of
this.
That
was
bat
insulation.
L
The
columns
are
on
the
porch
there,
a
manufactured
box
columns
that
they're
made
with
two
by
sixes.
So
the
finished
dimension
is
five
and
a
quarter
inches,
which
is
actually
the
finished
dimension
of
the
wall.
So
you
know
one
of
the
traditional
design
methods.
Is
you
always
want
the
column
to
be
the
same
finish
with
as
the
wall?
L
So
so
that's
what
we
have
a
very
simple
column
capital
see
if
I
can
zoom
in
a
little
bit
just
with
like
a
a
one
by
with
a
little
cord
around
below,
and
then
this
is
the
the
detail.
I
was
talking
about
to
match
the
beam
detail
over
the
front
porch,
which
is
similar
to
the
head
casing
over
the
windows,
but
it's
one
size,
bigger
and
then
again
this
this
detail
is
the
same
as
the
typical
wall
section
and
then
the
porch
has
1x4
v-groove
tongue
and
groove.
L
L
L
L
Then
the
hardware
we're
going
to
use
just
a
real,
simple,
dark
oil,
red
bronze,
single
plate
with
deadbolt
and
the
windows.
We
use
these
quite
a
bit
in
hyde
park,
actually
all
the
historic
districts
in
tampa.
This
is
sierra
pacific.
It's
called
an
h3,
it
has
nice
proportions
for
the
style
and
rail.
It
has
a
putty
profile
for
the
glazing
and
it's
h3,
because
on
the
outside
it's
aluminum,
the
jam
liners
are
vinyl
and
the
inside
is
wood.
So
it's.
L
This
is
three
materials
and
takes
advantage
of
each
of
those
materials,
and
this
is
just
another
detail
corner
section
of
the
window,
the
light
we
didn't
really
pick
out
a
porch
ceiling
light
and
that's
really
not
within
the
public
ground.
You
won't
really
be
able
to
see
it.
But
of
course
the
light
over
the
garage
door
is
an
important
light,
and
this
is
just
a
period
style
light
that
will
go
over
the
garage
door
and
the
garage
door
will
be
as
shown
in
the
elevations.
L
It
will
be
a
panel
type
carriage
house
type
door,
just
be
a
single
one,
obviously,
with
the
the
three
lights
over
and
it's
actually
a
a
clopay,
although
this
doesn't
have
lights,
but
that's
the
type
door
that
we're
using.
L
L
C
Good
evening,
commissioners
ron
villa
staff
with
historic,
preservations
stats.
Finding
the
application
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
design
guidelines.
When
we
reviewed
this
project,
we
had
a
couple
conditions
attached
to
it.
Those
editions
excuse
me,
those
conditions
were
addressed
this
evening.
So
at
this
time
staff
has
no
additional
comments
and
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
E
F
My
first
question
is:
you
had
mentioned,
potentially
this
becoming
a
an
accessory
dwelling.
Do
the
setbacks
on
the
site
plan
take
that
into
consideration.
L
Yes,
they
do-
and
I
really
mention
that
just
because,
even
though
it's
not
part
of
this
petition
at
all,
it
is
an
important
consideration
when
you're
talking
about
the
orientation
and
location
of
the
building,
to
make
provisions
for
adding
like,
for
example,
additional
parking
space
that
meets
city
tampa
requirements.
L
Do
want
to
do
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
the
future.
They
would
have
vehicular
access
from
the
south
here
and
we
just
have
to
take
that
tree
out.
It's
a
smaller
oak
tree,
it's
not
a
grand
tree
and
there
should
be
no
problem
taking
it
out
and
it
is
on
their
property
as
well,
and
that
sort
of
goes
to
the
fact
of
this
building
being
more
oriented
this
way
as
opposed
to
sort
of
square
because
they
didn't
want
to
park.
You
know
right
here
so
so:
okay,.
F
Okay,
I
do
have
others,
you
had
mentioned
a
vent
to
be
installed
on
the
gable
end,
and
you
said
it
was
to
match
the
existing.
I
don't
remember
seeing
in
the
imagery
that
there
were
actually
vents.
Can
you
show
an
existing.
F
Okay
and
then,
while
he's
finding
that
the
height
of
the
small
windows
at
the
gable
end,
I
like
your
idea-
I
think
it's
great.
Whenever
you
can
include
children
and
a
plan,
it
just
seems
to
me
they
they
they're,
pushed
really
high,
and
I
would
typically
expect
at
least
some
header
room
so
that
it
has
some
breathing
room
in
the
elevation
with
their
consideration
or
reconsideration
of
either
the
height
of
that
window
or
the
size
of
that
window,
because
they
often
are
smaller.
When
you
you'll
see
a
window
in
the
gable
end.
L
F
E
L
L
So
in
this
space
right
here
in
the
in
the
in
this
great
room
here,
they
wanted
to
have
vaulted
ceilings,
so
this
will
be
very
tall
up
to
the
ridge,
so
that
window
will
be
high
on
this
on
this
wall.
On
the
other
side,
the
garage
we're
going
to
frame
the
ceiling
down
to
eight
feet
and
then
that
window
will
be
in
the
space
up
above
the
garage
so
on
this
elevation.
H
E
And
then
the
only
other
question
that
I
had
was
there
was
a
comment
by
staff
of
connecting
the
driveway
to
the
garage
door
or
the
garage
understanding.
That's
going
to
be
changed
to
a
storage
right.
Was
there
any
consideration
given
to
continuing
that
to
kind
of
appear
more?
As
that
you
know,
carriage
house
yeah.
L
Yeah,
I
talked
to
my
clients
about
that,
and
they
specifically
did
not
want
that,
but
I
didn't
see
that
being
a
problem
because
there's
actually
a
gate
right
here,
so
the
parking
goes
up
to
the
gate.
So
what
happens
behind
and
that's
typically
been
okay
to
do
in
the
past
as
long
as
it's
behind
the
fence
and
not
within
the
public
realm.
L
L
I'll
just
say
that
we'll
make
the
necessary
adjustments
to
that
window.
Those
high
windows
that
was
mentioned
and
opened
any
other.
E
All
right
well
at
this
point,
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
and
the
commissioners
can
now
discuss
the
case.
Is
there
anything
commissioners
would
like
to
discuss,
or
I.
D
D
F
A
Items
so,
commissioner,
you
could
suggest
a
friendly
amendment
to
add
the
conditions
to
the
existing
motion.
If
the
maker
of
the
motion
accepts
that,
then
that
would
become
part
of
the
motion.
D
D
I
moved
to
grant's
particular
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
arc
for
the
prop
in
for
arc
21
dash
234
property
located
at
5601
north
seminole
avenue,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
upper
level
windows
be
coordinated
with
staff
as
to
their
final
location.
To
so,
they
could
be
consistent
with
the
detailing
of
the
existing
dwelling,
because,
based
on
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
seminole
heights
design.
C
Ambassador's
moving
to
our
next
agenda
item,
this
is
ron
villa
I'm.
Staff
with
historic
preservation
is
arc
21-237.
This
is
for
the
address
of
910
south
fremont
avenue.
This
is
within
the
hyde
park,
historic
district,
the
zoning
classification
attached
to
this
parcel
is
rs50
and
the
request
is
for
an
addition
to
the
primary
structure,
in
addition
to
the
accessory
structure,
some
renovations
to
the
accessory
structure
with
site
improvements.
C
There
is
a
a
as
a
contributing
accessory
structure
that
still
remains
and
will
be
evident
in
the
photo
documentation
that
I'll
show
you
in
a
minute,
since
the
primary
structure
was
demoed
because
it
was
not
contributing.
This
was
part
of
a
relocation.
There
was
a
structure
at
815,
south
rome
that
is
going
to
sit
at
this
site
now,
and
the
new
site
is
910
south
fremont,
so
going
through
the
photo
presentation
camari
on
my
setup.
Thank
you.
C
So
the
sanborn
map
from
1929
shows
fremont
shows
the
parcel
that
was
vacant.
At
that
time,
as
I
stated,
there
is
a
primary
structure
that
was
here
was
non-contributing
that
was
removed,
but
there
was
an
accessory
structure
that
was
here
that
it
was
still
built
within
a
period
of
significance
that
was
contributing
in
status
that
remains
on
this
site.
C
C
This
is
the
side
elevation
which
is
the
south
and
moving
to
the
north.
I
wanted
to
share
these
pictures
with
you.
They
have
a
two-story
volume
here
that
was
not
part
of
the
original
fabric.
This
will
be
removed,
as
the
house
makes
its
move
to
fremont
and
then
part
of
the
request
in
front
of
you
this
evening
is
that
once
the
site,
this
structure
gets
to
the
new
site,
they're,
going
to
re-uh
construct
a
one-story
structure
to
be
more
sensitive
to
this
dutch
colonial.
C
This
is
looking
at
the
accessory
structure
that
is
at
the
receiving
site.
That
is
contributing.
That
was
the
front
elevation
of
the
of
the
accessory
structure.
These
are
the
abutting
structures.
This
is
the
abutting
contributing
structure
to
the
north.
This
is
the
contributing
structure
to
the
south.
C
C
C
M
Thank
you,
commissioners,
stephen
smith,
cooper,
johnson
smith,
peterson,
architects,
102,
south
12th
street
tampa,
as
ron
mentioned,
we're
near
we're
now
back
in
front
of
you
to
show
the
additions
that
we're
proposing
for
the
relocated
house
from
from
the
room.
M
M
I
want
to
first
orient
you
to
the
the
structures
that
are
there
this.
This
is
the
original
survey,
which
shows
the
house,
the
original
house
on
the
property
that
was
just
recently
taken
down
the
non-contributing
house
and
something
to
point
out
is
that
it
was
close
to
the
side
property
line
3.9
feet,
and
that
is
something
that,
in
the
previous
presentations
to
you
and
city
council,
we
we
want
to
locate
the
relocated
residence
at
that
setback
for
its
its
chimney,
and
the
reason
is
all
of
these
trees.
M
These
these
live
oaks
along
the
south
property
line,
and
so
we're
trying
to
move
away
from
them
as
much
as
possible.
There's
one
36
inch
that's
located
here
and
has
a
protective
radius
that
we're
trying
to
respect
and
I'll
I'll
show
you
that.
M
This
is
from
the
drawing
that
that
came
before
you
before
with
the
relocation
and
before
city
council,
and
it
is
showing
those
setbacks
in
the
the
outline
of
the
old
house
on
that
side
and
then
showing
the
protective
radius
that
we're
respecting
as
well
as
a
tree
canopy.
M
And
this
is
something
that
that
generated
the
design.
That
we'll
show
you
that
the
addition
on
the
rear
is
one
story
to
help
with
the
lower
branches
of
this.
M
M
M
What
we're
proposing
to
do
is
as
as
ron
mentioned,
we're
removing
the
non-contributing
edition
on
the
house
before
it
gets
relocated,
and
then
we're
also
proposing
to
remove
the
later
additions
onto
this
rectangular
outbuilding
carriage
house
in
the
rear.
There
are
two
there's
one:
that's
projecting
out
towards
the
west
and
then
one
a
flat,
roofed
kind
of
roof
deck
structure.
That's
on
the
south.
M
Okay
and
then
existing
elevation
drawings-
and
this
is
the
existing
west
elevation,
the
entry
side
of
the
the
current
house
on
rome,
the
the
south
elevation
and
in
showing
the
south
elevation.
No,
I
apologize.
That's
the
the
current
north
elevation
will
be
the
south
elevation,
but
it
is
showing
the
non-contributing
addition
on
the
rear.
M
The
current
rear
elevation
again
showing
the
non-contributing
edition
and
then
the
side
elevation
that
faces
bristol
currently
with
its
addition,
contribute.
M
These
are
the
elevations
of
the
out
building
and
showing
the
the
existing
projection
that
was
built
later
on
that
structure
that
we're
proposing
to
remove,
as
well
as
the
flat
roof
addition
that's
been
put
on
the
side
of
it.
You
can
see
in
the
side
elevations
the
locations
of
these.
M
M
Other
elements,
we're
replacing
the
air
conditioning.
That's
existing
back
here
behind
the
screen,
we're
showing
a
new
air
conditioning
unit
that
will
be
screened
from
from
the
view
of
the
rights
away,
we're
reconstructing
the
the
tariffs
and
steps
on
the
house
that
that
cannot
be
moved,
but
we're
replicating
it
and
then
adding
a
sidewalk
down
to
the
street.
M
M
Okay,
our
proposed
elevations
we're
really
only
replacing
new
windows
that
were
that
were
placed
in
the
original
dwelling.
They
occur
in
the
projection
of
the
front
elevation
in
that
projecting
room
both
at
the
front
facing
the
street
and
also
at
the
sides.
M
They're
currently
aluminum
mill
finish
more
more
modern
windows
in
there
right
now,
we
are
removing,
with
with
this
project,
we're
only
removing
or
proposing
to
remove
one
window,
and
that
is
on
on
the
side.
Elevation
and
replacing
it
with
with
siding.
The
new
windows
would
be,
would
be.
Wood
windows,
simulated,
divided,
light
insulated
windows,
so
they
will
approximate
the
historic
windows.
M
M
M
We're
also
showing
a
detail
for
the
screen
that
will
hide
the
air
conditioning
equipment
from
the
street
bottom
is
the
the
new
north
elevation
and
again
showing
replacing
the
more
modern
windows
in
the
existing
contributing
structure
and
then
showing
the
addition
of
the
family
room
edition
and
then
that
porch
and
breakfast
bay
beyond
the
things
features
like
the
the
crawl
space
grills
will
be
reconstructed
like
the
the
the
ones
existing
at
the
house.
M
M
M
Okay,
showing
looking
towards
the
the
out
building
and
showing
the
new
one
story
addition
to
it
with
its
gabled
roof
to
match
the
gabled
form.
That's
there
now
showing
two
new
composite
garage
doors,
carriage
style,
doors
to
approximate,
that
of
wood
and
and
then
showing
the
new
fenestration
of
windows,
french
doors,
single
french
door
and
then
showing
the
existing
wood
windows
that
are,
there
now
side
elevation
facing
south
of
this
new
added
piece
with
a
single
window
in
it
and
then
along
the
rear.
M
This
is
off
of
the
alley.
We're
making
really
no
changes,
except
for
this
additional
piece
with
a
window
in
it
we're
showing
new
light
fixture
locations,
which
we'll
show
you
in
a
minute.
M
This
is
our
proposed
detail
through
that
addition
in
the
rear,
porch,
so
the
wall
of
the
family,
room,
showing
the
rear,
porch
deck
structure
and
roof
structure
and
then
the
what
we're.
What
we're,
calling
the
breakfast
bay
beyond
the
material
materials
will
all
be
will
be
pressure,
treated
wood
that
will
be
dried
and
plain
smooth
to
be
used
as
trim,
rather
than
using
a
synthetic
or
a
fiber
cement
board.
M
We
feel
that
that
would
be
best
for
addition
to
the
house.
Since
everything
is
wood
on
it,
our
siding
will
be
wood
as
well,
probably
a
cedar
smooth
cedar
to
match
the
dimension
windows,
as
I
mentioned,
will
be
wood
and
all
of
the
all
the
detailing
the
soffit
material
and
the
ceiling
of
the
porch
will
be
wood
bead
board
to
match
that
of
the
overhangs
at
the
at
the
existing
house,
decking
will
be
pressure,
treated
beveled
edge,
decking
boards.
M
M
M
Showing
the
existing
front
door
that
we're
keeping
with
its
hardware
and
showing
these
very
interesting
light
fixtures
that
are
at
the
bottom
of
the
brackets
they're
functioning,
we're
keeping
those.
C
Good
evening,
commissioner
ron
vilo
staff
with
historic
preservation
sas
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
design
guidelines.
We
re
reviewed
plans
on
april
16
2021
and
there
were
a
couple
of
items.
The
items
were
addressed
this
evening.
This
was
a
complete
presentation
addressing
all
those
items
from
our
original
review.
I'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
E
E
All
right,
seeing
and
hearing
none
the
commissioners
can
now
ask
questions
for
the
project
if
they
would
like.
Would
a
commissioner
like
to
begin.
I
have
one.
F
G
M
Yes,
right
now
currently
for
the
outbuilding
it's
here,
so
we're
replacing
it
in
its
location
and
then
we're
proposing
for
the
the
relocation
to
be
in
that
side.
D
Sir,
I
have
a
question
respecting
foundation
detailing
elevations
quite
plainly
indicate
something
of
a
brick-like
nature.
M
Yes
great
question,
and
in
fact
I
forgot
to
show
you
this,
and
so
what
we're
doing
is
we're
proposing
to
replicate
the
brick
base.
That's
there
on
the
resonance
currently
and
extend
that
to
the
addition,
but
rather
than
build
it
out
of
eight
inch
brick.
M
What
we
want
to
do
is
we're
proposing
to
build
it
out
of
8
inch
cmu
and
then
use
an
authentic,
thin
brick
product
like
this
one,
basically
a
cut
brick
that
will
then
be
grouted
to
appear
in
every
way
like
authentic
brick.
It
will
have
bright
corners
if
you
guys
are
familiar
with
the
product
they
have
corners
and
so
on,
and
so
in
every
way
we're
trying
to
make
this
authentic
and
and
representative
of.
What's
there
now.
D
So
basically,
the
existing
dwelling
is
currently
on
and
these
three
crawl
spaces
going
back
on
a
masonry,
crawl
space
and
you
are
going
to
be
making
your
addition
as
a
masonry
call
space.
D
M
Yes,
exactly
boards
will
be
slotted
boards,
so
it
will
ventilate
that
way.
D
M
Yes,
we're
we're
showing
crawl
space
venting
essentially
in
the
locations
where
there
are
now
we're
adding
a
few
more
neat
current
code,
but
right
now
they
exist
as
simple
wood
framed
openings
in
the
brick
that
have
a
rodent
screen.
Hardware
cloth
behind
them,
so
we're
proposing
to
go
back
with
the
same
thing.
D
May
I
recommend
at
some
point
in
time
here
that
one
of
these
vents
be
made
large
enough
for
access
purposes.
Yes,
because
my
house
is
on
a
crawl
space
as
well.
I
love
well
not
love,
but
I
enjoy
the
convenience
of
being
able
to
go
under
my
house
and
handle
or
have
someone
go
under
my
house
and
handle
all
of
my
utility
data,
all
the
things
that
change
or
break
all
the
time,
because
it's
there,
if
I
didn't,
have
a
big
opening
I'd,
have
a
big
problem.
M
D
M
B
I
just
had
a
question
about
the
set
that
side
yard
setback.
Yeah.
Maybe
that's
a
question,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
answer
it
or
maybe
stack
to
answer
it
just.
I
know
that
that's
where
the
accessory
structure
sits.
Is
that
three
three
feet
something
that
you
mentioned,
but
is
there
not?
Why
is
there
not
a
variance
required
to
put
the
house
in
that
location.
H
M
C
Yeah
in
reviewing
the
location
of
the
existing
accessory
structure
and
the
relocated
structure,
the
setbacks
were
reviewed
by
land
development
and
no
variance
was
required,
as
the
site
plan
presented
this
evening.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Oh
I
had
one
more
question.
I
believe
you
showed
two
garage
doors
in
the
accessory
structure,
but
it's
a
one
core
garage.
Is
that
because
there's
already
an
opening
there
for
a
garage.
G
G
C
Well,
I
was,
I
was
speaking
to
the
accessory
structure.
The
relocated
structure
is
what's
the
dimension
there,
stephen.
H
C
M
Yes,
it's
3.6
to
the
chimney
and
then
five
5.7,
I
believe
I'll
look
for
5.8
to
the
wall.
C
Yes,
I
believe
the
existing
footprint
was
ever
entered
into
the
record
as
well,
and
some
concessions
were
made
for
the
structure
that
was
there.
I'd
have
to
look
at
the
record,
though,
to
be
completely
honest
with
you.
E
Yeah,
the
only
question
that
I
have
if
we
could
look
at
the,
I
guess,
the
east
facade
of
the
accessory
structure.
M
E
So
my
question
is
kind
of
in
reference
to
the
garage
door
on
the
right
seems
to
be
pretty
well
defined
in
terms
of
kind
of
the
massing
and
sort
of
that
entrance
that
viewpoint
the
one
on
the
left
seems
to
be
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
just
off
centered
or
something
just
seems
to
be
a
little
bit
off
in
terms
of
the
proportions.
H
M
M
Really
not
not
any
more
thinking
attached
to
that.
It
seems
like
these
carriage
houses
and
outbuildings,
especially
one
like
this.
That's
that
sort
of
is
very
informal
in
the
way
that
the
windows
were
placed
and
so
on.
They
seemed
like
they
were
more
functionally
located
rather
than
any
sort
of
composition.
E
Okay
and
then
the
only
other
question
I
have
is
for
the
stairs
to
the
porch
on
the
back
the
railing
for
that.
So
you
see
the
top
rail
that
comes
down,
but
it
doesn't
look
like
there's
anything
else
that
either
is
connecting
from
the
stair
to
that
railing.
Is
that
the
detail
and
kind
of
design
that
they'll
be
or
is
it
just
missing?.
M
Yes,
no,
that's
that's
right!
We,
this
is
probably
the
best
we
felt
like
we're,
we're
lower
than
30
inches
and
and
didn't
want
to
have
a
guard
rail
there
anywhere
else
on
the
porch,
but
then
knew
that
we
were
required
to
have
one
going
down
the
stairs.
We
thought
we'd
do
a
minimal
expression
there
with
a
4x4
post
and
then
a
sculpted
2x4
rail.
H
C
Ron
villa
stafford,
historic
preservation.
I
like
to
elaborate
on
comment
I
made
earlier.
You
know
this
project
went
through
the
process
for
hpgrc
and
the
appropriate
departments
put
their
eyes
on
it,
and
it
was
not
deemed
at
that
time
that
a
variance
was
needed
as
it
goes
through
the
process
in
the
building
department,
if
it
does
have
additional
review
and
a
variance
is
needed
at
that
time.
This
board
will
see
this
project
again.
Okay,.
G
Again,
I
would
I
would
like
to
now
we
looked
at
the
north,
the
north
boundary.
Could
we
look
at
the
south
boundary
as
well?
Just
look
at
the
site
plan.
There.
G
Yes,
so
that
this,
the
south
wall
of
the
garage
is
in
the
same
location
as
the
addition,
the
addition
that
you
removed
is
that
the
way
that
works?
Yes,
okay,
so
you
were
assuming
that
something
was
grandfather.
It's
like
it
was
grandfathered
in
okay.
D
M
Yes,
I
don't
see
the
need
for
it.
Thank
you.
E
F
Have
no
concerns
over
this
case.
Obviously,
the
the
issue
of
the
setbacks,
but
that's
out
of
our
hand
for
the
moment
so
I'll
pass
the
time.
B
Same
it
seems
consistent
with
the
guidelines.
B
I'd
like
to
move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
arc
21-237
for
the
property
located
at
910,
south
fremont
avenue,
because,
based
upon
the
findings
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park.
Historic
district
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons
that
its
scale
and
massing
and
building
form
are.
B
Sorry
are
consistent.
E
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
C
C
C
The
zoning
classification
is
rm
24
that
reflects
the
multi-family
residential
classification,
and
the
request
in
front
of
you
this
evening
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
new
construction,
a
duplex
with
site
improvements.
C
Moving
forward
to
the
vicinity
map
property
in
question
is
indicated
by
the
arrow.
It
does
face
amelia
to
the
north
and
it
is
a
corner
parcel
and
you
have
jefferson
to
the
west.
There
is
an
alley
if
you
look
at
the
grid
and
a
lot
of
times
when
we
show
the
sanborn
map
or
the
vicinity
map
the
alleys
are
in
play
and
the
alleys
provide
a
a
huge.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
This
is
looking
down
that
alley.
It
is
an
improved
alley
which
can
be
used,
and
the
last
photo
that
I
have.
This
is
looking
at
the
alley
at
the
cross
street.
This
is
jefferson
as
it
continues
that
completes
the
photo
presentation
and
mr
schuler
at
this
time
will
address
the
board.
I
There
we
go
it's
a
mixture
of
uses,
both
single
family
and
multi-family.
This
particular
parcel
is
surrounded
by
a
mostly
multi-family
residential.
This
is
about
0.54
acres.
Currently
with
the
zoning
at
rm24.
It
would
be
allowed
to
have
3.7
units.
I
Also,
this
is
in
the
tampa
heights
urban
village,
which
is
a
if
I
pete
this
property
was
pd,
because
we
have
over
five
units,
not
sure
how
we
really
faded
on
the
site,
but
by
zoning
that
would
be
allowed
so
anyways.
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
briefly
touch
on
that
and
then
we'll
talk
about
about
the.
I
I
J
J
J
J
C
F
I
Appreciate
it,
thank
you
very
much
so
again
this
is
north.
This
is
the
the
front
yard,
which
is
the
short
side
which
is
on
amelia
avenue
to
the
to
the
east.
Is,
is
a
multi-family
structure
about
it's
originally
designed
as
four
units?
I
believe,
there's
actually
three
units
there
now,
but
originally
designed
as
four
units
is
a
contributing
structure,
even
though
it's
been
substantially
changed.
I
I
believe,
as
we
saw
on
on
the
on
the
pictures,
this
alley
is
open
and
the
adjacent
structure
next
door
has
an
accessory
structure
with
with
with
four
four
four
garage
units
facing
facing
the
alley
to
the
north
is
is
a
single
family
with
an
accessory
structure
that
is,
is
a
apartment,
so
technically
it's
multi-family
to
the
to
the
west
is,
is
quite
a
large
church,
two-story
stucco,
church
two-story
in
height.
I
think
it's
actually
only
one
story
then
to
the
south
is
also
a
two-story
multi-family
structure.
I
I
think
it
is
eight
units
currently,
even
though
to
me,
I
think
it
should
only
be
four,
but
so
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
context
of
what
this
site
is.
We're
proposing
a
duplex
two
townhouses
people,
like
the
word
duplex
kind
of
when
we
get
to
the
elevations,
it's
going
to
try
and
mimic
as
much
as
possible
to
a
more
of
a
single
family
aesthetic,
but,
of
course
the
scale
and
bulk
and
massing
will
be
slightly
larger
because
it
is
a
multi-family
structure.
I
As
you
get
through
to
the
back
of
the
project,
we
do
have
a
small
side,
porch
slash
open
space
with
this,
with
a
with
a
little
low
wall
that
would
be
masonry
and
then
vehicular
access
is
all
from
the
alley,
of
course,
with
with
two
two-car
garages
and
then
space
for
additional
parking
behind
the
garage.
I
This
is
really
just
a
blow-up
of
the
first
floor.
I
don't
think
we
have
to
say
much
about
that
second
floor
again
same
bulk
and
massing.
I
want
to
get
to
the
elevations.
I
So
the
elevations
are
based
on
kind
of
a
modern
farmhouse,
aesthetic,
we're
gonna,
try
and
really
break
this
messing
up
into
several
different
aspects
of
the
project,
and
I
think
this
is
the
strength
of
the
project,
starting
in
the
front
the
front
we
have
a
hip
roof
with
with
a
small
gable
in
front
of
it
and
then,
of
course,
the
porch
in
front.
All
of
that
is
surrounded
by
some
nice
large
single
hung
windows
with
dark,
bronze,
aluminum,
divided,
light
style
windows.
I
We
can
talk
about
what
those
windows
look
like,
based
on
some
other
things
that
happen
in
the
neighborhood,
then
on
jefferson,
which
is
the
other
main
main
street
elevation,
which
is
west.
We
have
again
another
bump
out
with,
with
a
nice
gable
end
with
some
venting,
that's
synonymous
to
the
front
venting,
and
then
we
have
a
transition
space,
which
is
where
the
landscape,
I'm
sorry
where
the
low
wall
length
is
with
with
the
kind
of
a
courtyard
feel
which
is
a
transition
to
the
garage
mass.
I
Now
all
this
is,
of
course
connected,
but
we're
trying
to
break
up
the
scale
and
mass
of
of
the
building
to
to
give
it
the
appearance
that
you
kind
of
have
a
primary
structure,
an
accessory
structure
then
to
the
rear.
I
The
back,
of
course,
with
with
the
vehicular
access
and
and
the
alley
we
have
some
some
some
more
fenestration
a
a
dimensional
shingle
roof
is,
is
the
primary
roof.
We
have
a
small
flat
roof,
that's
parapeted
between
the
two
two
masses
and
then
you
have
essentially
the
the
same
thing
facing
east,
which
is
again
facing
the
other
larger
multi-family
structure.
I
Some
of
these
details
we're
going
to
have
a
smooth
stucco
finish
with
with
some
stucco
control
joints,
primarily
right
now
we're
having
a
first
floors
block
in
the
second
floor's
frame.
I
These
windows
will
all
be
inset,
the
same
dimension
about
three
inches.
To
give
it
a
a
nice
recessed
look,
we
have
a
stucco
sill
and
then
we
have
a
little
detail.
Typically,
that's
a
stucco
lentil,
it's
about
half
inch
expression,
eight
inches
tall
it'd
be
painted
slightly
different.
I
Also,
this
this
little
landscape
cap
will
will
be
precast
and
another
interesting.
I
guess
details.
We
have
this
curved
gable
outlooker
that
covers
the
the
overhang
the
overhangs
are
about
18
inches
on
all
of
the
soffits.
I
So
the
this
is
a
section
of
through
the
front
porch
again
the
front
porch
would
be
elevated,
approximately
16
inches
from
grade
and
then
I'm
sorry
20
inches
from
grade
and
about
24
inches
for
the
first
floor
elevation
and
that
would
be
consistent
throughout
the
house.
I
A
side
section
showing
that
we
would
have
about
an
18
inch
overhang
with
with
smooth
hardy
fashion
and
soffit
boards,
actually
a
hearty
bead
board
underneath
and
then
again
with
a
with
a
smooth
stucco
finish,
have
about
10
foot
in
the
first
floor
and
about
9
foot.
On
the
second
floor.
I
Some
of
these
details,
as
it
relates
to
the
the
windows
again
about
a
about
on
the
first
on
the
first
floor,
we
would
have
a
block
which
I
think
is
shown
on
on
the
previous
wall
sections.
Then,
on
the
second
floor,
where
we
have
frame,
we
would
have
this
a
consistent
dimension
where
the
the
it
would
be
a
two
by
six
wall.
So
we
recess
that
approximately
three
inches
from
the
from
the
face
of
the
main
main
wall.
I
This
is
this
little
stucco
detail
that
we
have
that
stops
out
for
the
for
the
lentil
sil
we're
gonna,
do
a
stucco
built
stucco
sill
that
sticks
out
about
an
inch
past,
the
again
the
main
body
of
the
wall,
and
then
we
do
have
some
some
double
windows
and
those
double
windows
would,
it
would
be
divided
by
by
a
casement
in
that
case,
would
be
out
of
hardy
board
to
simulate
a
a
traditional
window
that
would
have
weights
in.
I
H
I
I
guess
inspiration
we
took
this
little
commercial
building
in
in
hyde
park
on
swan
again,
I'm
not
trying
to
mimic
it
just
has
some
similar
details
and
or
feel
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
kind
of
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we
were
thinking.
I
Tampa
heights
elementary
school,
which
is
caddy
corner
from
this,
would
be
north
and
west
of
this
property.
It's
just
been
recently
finished
after
a
devastating
fire
in
2017..
You
can
see
this.
This
building
has
been
replaced
with
all
new
windows.
I
think
it
was
extremely
successful,
and
these
windows
are,
I
think,
the
dark
bronze
aluminum.
These
are
triple
windows,
we're
not
trying
to
again
mimic
this,
but
just
pay
homage
to
this
this
window
and
that
it's
directly
caddy
corner
from
this
property,
and
we
would
do
a
single
hung
version
with
again.
I
What's
what's
shown
on
our
on
our
elevations,
similar
roof
again
dimensional,
shingle
and
gray.
I
Our
standard
outdoor
light
would
be
a
very
simple
little
little
box
light
again
because
we're
trying
to
be
a
a
clean,
clean,
nice
little
efficient
building
and
with
that
includes
my
presentation.
I'll,
take
questions.
A
Report
good
evening,
commissioners,
dennis
fernandez
architecture
review
historic
preservation
manager
to
present
your
staff
report.
We
did
find
the
application
to
be
consistent
with
the
tampa
heights
design
guidelines
with
a
few
considerations
and
conditions
on
your
part.
A
A
I
was
following
the
presentation
and
I
I
had
questions
on
the
column
material.
I
thought
I
thought
I
heard
the
applicant
say
that
the
materials
were
was
stucco.
So
if
that's
the
case,
he
could
clarify
that
we
typically
have
not
approved
stucco
columns
on
porch
or
usually
wood
or
some
other
type
of
synthetic
that
mimics
wood
as
far
as
the
metal
roof
over
the
porch.
A
A
I
think
there
was
wasn't
mention
of
the
hardware.
I
know
there
was
a
mention
of
the
lighting
and
probably
the
most
significant
issue.
The
staff
had,
as
as
a
concern
was
the
overall
massing,
as
it
appears
on
the
side
elevation,
particularly
with
the
references
within
the
historic
district
of
having
principal
structures
and
detached
accessory
structures
and
we're
being
presented
with
a
model.
A
That's
a
little
bit
uncharacteristic
of
the
of
the
area.
As
far
as
from
a
historic
precedent
situation
with
a
connected
garage,
we
had
been
kind
of
expressing
this
concern
to
the
applicant
or
to
the
agent
early
on
with
trying
to
replicate
as
much
as
possible
the
primary
and
accessory
structure
detach
accessory
structure
relationship.
A
We
feel
that
the
current
two-story
connector
that
connects
those
those
those
two
volumes
is
challenging
to
be
able
to
have
a
historic
reference,
and
we
have
recommended
that
that
connector
be
reduced
to
a
one-story
connector
instead
of
a
two-story
connector
to
better
distinguish
between
those
two
volumes.
E
Thank
you
all
right
at
this
point,
we
will
open
the
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
Is
there
anyone
that
would
like
to
speak?
Okay,
just
make
sure
you
come
forward,
stay
and
state
your
and
spell
your
name.
H
The
the
the
house
to
the
left
also
has,
for
all
intents
and
purposes,
a
an
attached
garage.
You
know
it's
one.
You
know
if
you
look
at
the
two
together,
like
whatever
objection
the
gentleman
just
had
that
one
on
the
left
is
the
same
way
as
this
one.
This
one
looks
a
lot
better
though,
and
what
I
also
like
what
I
like
about
it
most
is:
it
doesn't
aggravate
our
parking
situation
in
tampa
heights.
It's
gonna
have
like
about
five
spots
available
or
two
four
six
spots,
so
off
street.
E
H
I
H
D
I
Oh
sure,
of
course
I
mean
if,
if,
if
we
feel
as
a
group
that
we
don't
think
a
metal
roof
is
appropriate
and
we
want
to
do
just
a
dimensional
shingle
roof
I'd
be
happy
to
explore
that
again,
it
was
really
more
of
a
of
a
of
a
preference
of
of
the
style
that
we're
pursuing
the
the
parapets
we'll
all
have
a
coping
cap.
That's
also
metal
and
and
the
windows
would
be
metal.
So
again,
I
think
we're
establishing
a
vernacular.
H
I
Specifically,
this
exact
look.
No
again,
I
cited
that
the
primary
structures
around
this
property
are
multi-family
in
nature
and
stucco
and
in
nature
and
have
similar
scale
mass
and
bulk
in
nature.
The
the
the
malte
I'm
sorry,
the
commercial
building
to
the
to
the
west,
which
is
the
church
is,
is
all
stucco
has
very
large
windows
that
are
again
the
the
church
and
and
to
the
north,
the
the
school.
I
So
I
understand
that
this
is
and
that's
why
I
started
at
the
beginning
of
my
presentation
that
this
is
not
a
single
family
dwelling.
This
is
a
multi-family
dwelling
could
could
have
pursued.
My
client
could
have
pursued
a
much
much
more
intense
number
of
units.
He
only
wants
to
pursue
two,
which
I
think
is
admirable.
I
I
live
in
the
neighborhood
and
think
that's
the
right
solution
for
here,
and
this
is
going
to
continue
to
be
an
issue
with
r-35
land
use
underlying
tampa
heights,
and
it's
an
urban
village
that
this
is
going
to
continue
to
come
up
that
we're
not
going
to
be
building
single-family
houses
in
tampa
heights
anymore.
It's
just
not
going
to
happen.
Land
prices
are
too
high.
I
Yeah
two
separate
sashes
these
these
are
operable
windows
in
in
in
in
the
tampa
heights.
It's
just
the
very
bottom
sash
is
operable
again,
I'm
not
trying
to
mimic
that
exactly
I'm
just
trying
to
give
you
a
flavor
and
again
happy
to
work
with
staff
on
on
pursuing
the
the
right
window
solution.
D
Sir,
I
have
a
question
respecting
flavor
and
style.
If
you
don't
mind,
I'm
relatively
sympathetic
to
your
statement
of
the
future
moving
forward
for
redevelopment
of
some
of
these
neighbor
older
for
a
much
higher
density.
D
That
being
said,
have
you
gone
through
the
effort
of
taking
a
look
at
some
of
our
older
neighborhoods,
particularly
the
tampa
heights
area,
and
and
take
a
careful
look
at
what
was
done
in
the
20s
and
the
30s
in
those
small
apartment
buildings,
and
have
you
distilled
that
into
your
project.
I
So
I'll
answer
this
in
several
ways.
First
of
all,
I've
lived
in
the
neighborhood
22
years,
so
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
tampa
heights.
I
live
three
blocks
south,
and
this
is
just
just
for
point
of
reference,
really
nothing
else.
I
I
There
are
small
houses
to
the
east
of
here,
but
this
particular
block
as
it's
surrounded
by
two
essentially
commercial
buildings,
a
church
and
a
school
it's
thrown
into
the
east
by
a
large
multi-family
structure.
That's
similar
in
mass
bulk
and
scale,
it's
actually
closer
to
the
street
than
what
we're
proposing
it's
only
five
feet
from
from
the
property
line.
The
property
to
the
south,
which
is
a
large
apartment
building,
is
on
the
property
line.
It's
it's
similar
in
scale
and
bulk,
maybe
not
quite
as
large,
in
its
x
and
y
dimension.
I
I
think
we've
been
very
sensitive
to
to
the
scale
massing
of
a
what
is
a
agreed,
a
larger
structure,
but
I
think
again,
everyone
has
to
understand.
Tampa
heights
is
an
urban
village,
and
it's
this
is.
This
is
the
way
of
it's
gonna
happen
for
a
long
time
and
there's
gonna
be
clashes
between
the
the
tampa
heights
arc,
review
and
and
the
reality
of
what's
going
on
in
in
in
what
is
essentially
an
urban
neighborhood.
I
Two
blocks
from
downtown
palm
avenue
is
going
to
be
downtown
over
the
next
20
years,
but
this
is
we're
talking
about
this
specific
project.
In
this
specific
project,
I
think
we've
done
a
a
very
good
job
of
creating
a
massing
that
is,
to
some
degree
you're
right
different
than
what
the
commercial
buildings
are
doing,
but
we
are
a
residential
project
and
I'm
trying
to
distill
between
those
those
concepts.
Is
it
exactly
like
something
else
in
the
neighborhood?
I
Well,
actually,
it's
not,
and
I'm
actually
very
proud
of-
that
it's
actually
unique
and
it's
unique
in,
but
in
the
context
of
that
it
has
similar
scale,
math
scale
and
massing.
It
has
a
lot
of
gables
and
hips
and
and
and
flat
roofs
and
we're
trying
to
encourage
this
building
to
be
not
just
the
box,
because
a
lot
of
those
commercial
buildings
are
just
boxes.
D
H
I
I
We're
asking
for
10
feet,
which
is
what
the
structure
is
currently
that's
there.
So
eric
cotton
told
me
that
he
wouldn't
approve
the
de
until
after
it
was
approved
through
the
arc.
So
I
I
said
which
came
first,
the
chicken
of
the
egg
he
said
versus
the
arc
and
then
second
is
it's
a
technical
guilt
glitch
on
the
turning
radius
for
our
additional
visitor
space,
because
this
is
considered
multi-family.
I
I
have
to
have
at
least
one
visitor
space.
So,
even
though
I
have
room
for
four
visitor
spaces,
then
I'll
technically
meet
the
technical
standards
with
a
26
26
foot,
turning
radius
in
an
18
foot
parking
spot,
I'm
six
feet
short,
so
I'm
asking
for
a
waiver
of
one
space
particular
space,
even
though
in
reality
we
have
four
so
and
then,
and
then
last
was
the
the
the
I
wanted
to
put
the
because
this
is
again
two
two
separate
lots:
it's
fee
simple,
it's
not
it's!
Not
apartments!
I
They're
single
family
attached,
the
the
the
air
conditioners
on
on
the
west
side
will
face
the
street.
We
will
screen
them,
we'll
screen
them
with
with
with
plants,
but
by
technical
standards.
They
have
to
be
minimum
five
feet
away
from
the
from
from
the
sidewalk.
Ours
are
going
to
be,
I'm
sorry,
it
could
be
seven
feet
away
from
the
sidewalk.
Ours
could
be
about
five,
but
if
that
doesn't
pass
and
and
happy
to
put
it
on
the
roof,
we
have
to
have
a
flat
roof
between
the
two.
I
Well,
a
low
sloping
roof
between
the
the
the
two
masses
to
alleviate
that
problem.
But
again,
both
of
these
are
very
extremely
minor
design
exceptions.
G
I
I
The
main
structure
is
about
nine
feet
from
the
side.
Then
we
have
a
a
little
bump
out,
which
is
where
my
gable
is.
This
is
seven
and
it
goes
back
to
nine,
and
then
it
goes
to
ten
feet.
I'm
sorry,
nine
plus
three
feet
twelve
feet
here,
and
then
this
this
portion
here
is
is,
is
a
pair
pitted
portion
and
then,
of
course,
the
the
rear
which,
which
is
a
a
gable
end
versus
the
main
structure,
is
hips
with
with
with
gable
accents.
I
G
Okay,
thank
you
that
I
I
can
see
that
there's
a
significant
separation
or
a
significant
modulation
of
the
of
the
wall
on
the
second
floor,
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
ask
about
your
choice
of
the
little
the
little
square
windows
on
that
on.
H
I
I
F
F
F
A
little
bit
more,
please
that's
good!
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
were
trying
to
bring
a
new
language
and
I
understand
the
reasoning
there.
I,
however,
think
there's
a
little
confusion
in
the
style
for
the
most
part.
I
think
it
it
meshes
very
well.
F
I
feel
that
the
front
porch
is
foreign
to
the
rest
of
the
product
and
truly,
I
believe
it's
not
a
modern
farmhouse.
I
think
it's
more
like
tuscany
or
a
mission
style
to
me,
and
I,
like
the
refinement
of
the
project
that
you
showed
from
hyde
park
and,
and
I
understand
the
stucco
and
I
love
how
beautifully
that
project
turned
out
in
terms
of
materiality.
So
if
you
can
do
that
here
beautiful,
but
I
do
think
your
front
porch
is
foreign
and
is
speaking
a
different
language.
F
So
what
I
would
encourage
is
that
you
revisit
your
historic
precedent
as
much
as
you
don't
want
to
mimic
it.
I
think
there
are
lessons
learned
there
and
what
I
really
like
about
your
project
is
the
way
the
side
porch
relates
to
the
rest
of
the
of
the
massing,
and
I
think
there
is
a
suggestion
there.
As
as
to
a
resolution
for
the
front,
and
if
that
can
refocus
itself
to
the
same
language,
I
think
you're
very
successful
here
in
regards
to
the
overall
form
and
massing.
F
F
I
do
feel
like
there
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
distinguishing
communication
or
factors
between
the
primary
and
the
secondary,
but
I
think
you
have
a
good
start
there.
I
would.
I
would
reconsider
the
second
stair
myself
and
and
think
about
pushing
that
connector
piece
in
just
a
tad
bit
more.
F
F
I
think
the
metal
roof
is
the
wrong
move
here
when
we
looked
at
the
photo
essay
from
staff's
initial
component
of
the
presentation
tonight,
even
though
you
don't
want
to
mimic
your
neighbors,
your
neighbors
are
giving
you
some
clues,
so
I
would,
I
would
just
look
around
and
really
reconsider
the
material
choice
for
the
roof
there.
Other
than
that
I
did
want
to
ask
about
the
fenestration
at
the
garage
side,
which
is
on
the
west
elevation.
F
So
I
would
suspect
that
we're
talking
about
the
front
at
the
the
west
side
is
the
one
that
faces
jefferson,
correct.
Yes,
so
for
me
that
would
be
the
one
elevation
that
I
would
agree
with
staff
being
being
a
candidate
as
an
urban
village,
and
I
certainly
understand
it.
I
don't
live
in
the
district,
but
I
certainly
live
really
close
by
to
waterworks
and
armature,
and
I
feel
the
presence
and
the
changes
this
is
going
to
be
even
more
pedestrian
heavy.
So
I
think
you
need
to
offer
a
gesture
okay
along
the
street
there.
F
So
I
agree
with
staff
on
that
one
I
wanted
to
ask:
did
you
have
any
examples
of
any
of
the
materials
here?
F
F
I
Happy
to
provide
it
to
staff,
or
if
it's
at
the
pleasure
of
the
board
I'll
make
these
refinements.
F
Oh,
can
we
go
to
the
site
plan?
Please
I'm
sorry.
F
So
the
jefferson
street's
the
tops
this
stop
the
top
of
this
drawing
correct
yes,
so
how
are
the
ac
units
going
to
be
screened.
I
As
of
right
now,
we
would
put
some
landscape
around
the
hedges.
I
personally
prefer
those
over
some
some
other
type
of
screening
that
looks
foreign
to
to
the
structure.
F
Okay,
all
righty
and
then
so
your
garages
are,
they
double
wide,
so
they
have
two
car
two
cars.
F
I
know
about
your
that
the
intent
is
two
two
two
two
correct.
Okay,
all
right!
That's
that's
it
for
my
questions.
Thank
you.
E
So,
just
to
sort
of
reiterate
also
what
staff
and
my
fellow
commissioners
says,
I
think,
on
this
west
elevation,
where
there
is
that
blank
wall
on
the
garage.
It
would
be
nice
to
look
at
that.
As
a
you
know,
a
window
or
another
condition
to
kind
of
break
that
up,
since
that
is
along
that
pedestrian
side.
As.
I
E
Typically,
we
wouldn't
see
that
as
two
stories,
so
that
is
the
mass
of
that
kind
of
all
blends
as
one
single
structure
instead
of
two
kind
of
the
accessory
structure
in
the
main
house.
I
think,
if
you
were
to
pull
that
in
that,
could
help
solve
that
kind
of
that
issue
make
it.
You
know,
seem
a
little
bit
farther
back
away
and
then,
especially
unless
you're
right
up
on
it,
looking
directly
straight
having
that
a
little
bit
smaller
and
narrower
would
kind
of
help
hide
that
from
most
angles,.
I
E
I
think
the
style
of
the
house-
I
would
agree
as
well
to
me
it's
not
very
much
of
a
modern
farm
house.
This
is
very
much
what
you
would
see:
sort
of
a
a
modern
english
coastal
sort
of
property
of
somewhere
like
alice
beach,
for
example,
or.
H
E
Start
looking
at
you
know
some
of
the
english
islands
down
in
the
caribbean,
such
as,
like
a
bermuda
or
something
you're
pulling
those
walls
which
are
typically
very
white,
stucco
masses.
All
the
way
up,
I
think,
looking
possibly
at
a
second
material.
Maybe
a
darker,
you
know
sighting
or
something
for
that.
Connector
bridge
could
also
help
kind
of
delineate
that
you
have
your
house
structure
and
then
your
accessory
structure
and
those
are
separate,
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
you
know
examples
of
that
that
you
could
look
at
to
kind
of
help.
E
The
metal
roof
for
me,
I
mean
kind
of
stay
or
go.
I
think
the
question
would
be
if
you're,
if
you're
really
trying
to
look
for
a
historic
roof.
I
understand
the
color
isn't
important,
but
I
think
the
5v
crimp
is
kind
of
also
that
historic
nod.
So
you
might
want
to
consider
that
the
only
thing
that
I
have
that
maybe
want
to
talk
about
is:
are
there
going
to
be
any
fencing
or
any
fences
either
located
on
the
property
or
added.
I
Not
currently,
okay
and
and
a
couple
reasons
we
have
a
low
wall
here
there
is
going
to
be
a
gate
here,
so
we
wanted
to,
because
you
know
it's
an
it's
a
pretty
pretty
tight
sight.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
gave
relief
and
and
landscaping.
I
Just
for
the
exact
reason
why
what
susan
had
talked
about
that
this
is
pedestrian
street.
I
live
on
jefferson,
of
course
inside
here.
Maybe
there's
going
to
be
a
fence
here,
but
that's
not
proposed
currently.
E
Okay,
so
then
yeah,
I
would
think
you
mentioned
the
gate.
I
think
that
would
be
just
another
area
to
look
at
how
that
gate
is
detailed
and
kind
of
constructed,
because
that,
especially
on
the
jefferson
side,.
E
That's
going
to
be
very
visible,
yep,
I
think
the
other
option
you
could
do
for
screening
the
ac.
If
you
didn't
or
wanted
to
look
for
a
different
option
than
purely
just
landscaping,
you
could
look
at
that
low
sort
of
36
inch
masonry
wall
that
you
have.
Is
there
a
way
to
almost
encompass
the
ac,
not
go
all
the
way
out,
but
maybe
relocate
the
ac
to
where
they're
running
in
this
plan
kind
of
on
top
of
each
other
and
move
them
closer
and
hide
them
behind.
That
could
be
a
way.
E
I
I
mean
we,
I
looked
at
many
options
for
this
site.
I'll,
be
honestly.
We
originally
had
an
ad
detached
accessory
structures
and
the
the
zoning
just
wasn't
going
to
work.
We
would
need
variances
and
do
all
that
all
these
other
things
that
this
wasn't
going
to
seem
like
it
was
going
to
make
it
through
the
through
the
gauntlet,
but
we
wanted
to
provide
what
is
essentially
a
quality
family
house
and
today
standards.
I
This
house
is
around
2
400
square
feet
which,
by
a
duplex
standard,
seems
big,
but
for
your
standard
house
today,
most
houses
are
over
three
thousand
square
feet
in
in
certain
areas.
So
so
we
needed
to.
I
The
first
floor
is
all
living.
The
garage,
of
course,
is
in
the
back
and
then
how
how
how
do
you
best
get
to
around?
On
the
second
floor,
I
thought
this
was
quite
clever,
but
you
know
with
with
the
second
stair.
I've
actually
been
to
properties
that
that
do
this,
and
it's
in
it's
it's
very
successful,
but
again
we
would.
I
would
have
to
have
some
reworking
of
of
a
internal
hallway
to
make
that
work.
I
If
we
shared
the
stair,
we
can
investigate
that,
but
it
wouldn't
really
make
this
dimension
any
any.
Smaller.
Currently
we'd
have
to
shrink
something
take
something
out
of
bedrooms
or
bathrooms,
or
something
because
access
to
this
bonus
room
is
access
to
the
bonus
room,
and
I
can't
I
can't
get
there
through
through
a
garage
from
from
the
rear,
because
that's
not
really
the
style
of
a
house
that
we're
trying
to
create
here
we're
trying
to
create
a
house,
that's
accessible
from
from
the
interior.
F
Yes,
sorry,
I
do
have
a
question,
it's
related
to
your
foundation
and
any
venting
that
might
be
required.
I
Well,
this
is
a
elevated
stem
wall,
modern
construction,
so
there
is
no
venting
but
yeah,
but
it's
on
the
wall
section,
it's
not
a
big
deal,
but
but
to
address
what
what
dennis
says
we're
happy
to
create
a
really
small,
easy
little
little
again,
half
inch
water
table
of
some
sort.
If
we
feel
that's
going
to
add
to
the
design.
D
If
you,
sir,
looked
at
alternative,
I'm
sure
you
have
roof
forms
for
your
porch.
D
I
agree
with
my
fellow
commissioner
that
it
seems
like
a
very
foreign
element
with
respect
to
the
rest
of
your
building,
which,
which
seems
to
have
this
english,
dutch,
caribbean,
colonial
flair
to
it,
and
it's
just
sticking
out
like
a
sore
thumb.
You
create
your
back
porch
inset
with
this
very
nice
masonry
flat
arch
detail.
D
H
H
D
To
to
me,
there's
you
know
a
couple
little
elements
like
the
water
table.
The
garage
feature
what's
going
to
be
happening
with
this
front.
Porch
is
an
example,
because
it's
come
up
with
a
number
of
different
people.
What's
going
to
be
happening
with
the
connection
bridge
seemed
like
unresolved
and
fairly
substantial
items
so.
I
Time,
I'm
pretty
sure
what
I'm
hearing
is.
Do
you
want
me
to
continue
and
I'm
happy
to
continue
as
it
relates
to
to
this
element
here
I
I
had
a
I
had
a
roof
on
it
previously
and
it
was.
It
was
encouraged
to
take
it
off.
I
could
see.
I
could
see
that
and
again
I
think,
what's
going
to
happen
here
is
you're
going
to
see
this.
I
This
detail,
which,
which
is
going
to
be
a
you,
know,
a
a
black
coping
cap,
this
detail,
which
would
have
a
a
black
open
cap,
and
then
this
detail
black
opening
cap.
I
think
you're
gonna
feel
that
rhythm.
I
I
do
like
the
idea
of
if
minimum,
maybe
painting
that
slightly
different.
If
we
think
that's
that's
gonna
be
beneficial,
I'm
not
a
100
fan
of
changing
the
material
personally,
but
we
can
certainly
investigate
that.
E
Typically
with
this
style
house,
the
entrances
are
always
set
back
and
that's
to
kind
of
provide
that
shelter
from
not
only
the
sun
but
kind
of
the
rain,
especially
in
some
of
these
you
know
southern
caribbean
climates,
and
what
I
think
might
be
an
issue
is
the
way
you
would
achieve
that
is
you
know.
The
mass
of
the
house
is
kind
of
pulled
forward,
similar
to
what
a
fellow
commissioner
says.
If
you
had
that
parapet
that
gave
it
that
depth.
That's
what
you
have.
E
E
And
I
think
that
could
be
one
way
to
fix
that
front
during
that
north
elevation.
So
that
way
it
does
not
seem
so
foreign.
H
J
Excuse
me,
sir
kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
You
had
mentioned
that
you're
thinking
about
asking
to
continue
this
application.
You
mentioned
the
june
agenda,
but
I
just
want
you
to
be
aware
staff
will
let
you
know
that
the
next
available
agenda
is
in
july,
but
the
decision
on
regarding
whether
or
not
you
want
to
continue
your
application
is
ultimately
up
to
you.
I
Yeah
the
the
the
the
the
owner
is
here.
He.
J
I
I
I
I
think,
we're
fine
with
with
asking
for
a
continuance
and
we'll
make
some
changes.
I
think
the
changes
will
be
significant
enough,
that
you
will
you'll
feel
comfortable
to
move
on
and
we
can
get
an
approval
in
july.