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A
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
june
7
2021
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
tampa's
architectural
review,
commission
welcome
everyone.
My
name
is
zachary
greco,
chair
of
the
commission.
If
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise.
A
A
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plans,
elevations
architectural
details
and
wall
sections
staff
will
then
present
the
staff
report,
and
we
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
your
presentation,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
A
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
go
by
very
quickly
following
public
comment:
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
A
The
arc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
Owner
and
agents
are
independently
responsible
to
obtain
any
appropriate
permits
and
or
approvals.
If
you
haven't
already
done
so,
please
silence
all
cell
phones.
At
this
point
I'll
ask
my
commissioners,
fellow
commissioners,
starting
on
my
left,
to
introduce
themselves.
A
We're
also
joined
here
tonight
by
city
staff,
ron,
villa
elaine,
lund,
beverly,
jewish
and
kamaria
pettis
mackel.
A
D
E
Good
evening,
commissioner
ranville
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation
under
announcements.
We
have
a
couple
in
your
packet,
are
the
staff
reviews
that
we
include
every
month,
and
then
I
wanted
to
bring
to
your
attention
that
we
are
having
our
wednesday
meeting
and
we
have
a
full
agenda
for
that
evening
as
well.
D
D
C
D
Will
the
commissioners
also
please
state
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte
communications?
Regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda,
I
have
no.
I.
E
E
This
is
for
the
address
of
601
east
amelie
avenue,
and
the
second
continuation
to
the
june
9th
is
arc
21-265
for
805
south
rome
avenue.
Both
of
those
agents
worked
with
staff
to
continue
to
the
june
9
2021
public
hearing
at
6
00
pm,
and
that
was
to
balance
out
of
this
month's
agenda.
If
we
could
get
a
motion
for
that,
please.
C
Yes,
I
move
that
the
projects
cited
arc
21,
159
and
21
265
both
be
continued
to
the
june
9th
2021
meeting
at
6
p.m.
E
B
I
moved
to
to
continue
arc
21-309
for
the
address
at
5120
north
sunny
avenue
to
the
july
12
2021
meeting
at
pm.
B
E
The
next
item
that
we
need
a
motion
on
is
arc
21-106.
This
is
for
the
address
of
703
south
newport
avenue
this
case
has
been
in
our
rotation
for
more
than
four
months
has
been
continued,
so
we
need
a
motion
to
remove
this
from
the
agenda.
If
the
owner
and
the
agents
wish
to
move
forward,
they
will
have
to
repost
the
property.
D
B
E
And
the
last
item
that
is
not
reflected
under
continuations,
but
we
did
receive
an
email
late
this
afternoon
is
item.
Number
is
the
third
on
the
third
page,
which
is
arc
21-279,
rec
21-48,
the
email
that
was
forwarded
to
us
is
stating
that
the
owner
and
the
agent
wish
to
continue
that
request
to
august
2nd
2021
at
6
pm,
and
if
we
could
get
a
motion
for
that,
please.
B
E
E
E
E
Which
is
arc
21-223?
This
is
for
the
address
of
1711
west
hills
avenue.
Currently,
there's
a
vacant
parcel
there.
The
underlying
zoning
is
rs60.
What's
in
front
of
you
this
this
evening,
the
request
is
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
new
construction,
for
an
accessory
structure
with
site
improvements.
The
accessory
structure
is
approximately
840
square
feet.
E
E
Moving
to
the
photo
essay
on
the
monitor,
we
start
with
a
site
plan
of
the
sanborn
map.
The
front
property
is
hills
which
is
indicated
here.
Property
in
question
is
highlighted
in
the
green
parcel.
There
is
an
alley
that
runs
behind
the
property
that
is
improved
and
in
use
street
to
the
north
is
deco,
and
then
to
get
your
bearings
just
to
the
east.
You
have
rome
avenue.
E
E
Showing
some
of
the
budding
properties
you
have
a
one-story
craftsman-style
vernacular,
which
is
to
the
west.
E
E
F
Hello
good
evening,
my
name
is
dominic
forlano
with
dk
design
concept.
I'm
can
we
hear
me
now
good
to
see
you
guys
again.
I
was
here
about
a
month
ago
and
we
we
presented
the
primary
structure
at
that
point,
but
today
we're
just
focusing
on
the
accessory
building
and
some
of
the
these
site
elements.
F
I
guess
to
start
off
we'll
kind
of
walk
you
through
the
the
the
driveway
itself,
making
its
way
back
to
the
accessory
structure,
we're
gonna
utilize,
the
existing
curb
cut
and
on
the
ron
sanborn
map
that
he
provided
us.
It
showed
that
the
previous
structure,
that
was
there
actually
had
an
accessory
structure
in
the
back
and
the
primary
residence
was
about
the
same
footprint
as
we
currently
have,
which
allowed
us
to
to
use
the
existing
curb
cut.
F
We're
going
to
use
a
three
foot
by
three
foot
grass
with
three
foot
ribbon
all
the
way
back
to
the
garage
about
midway
down.
We
do
have
a
double
gate
and
there's
already
an
existing
fence
line
on
each
side,
so
we're
going
to
add
a
new
gate
here
and
a
new
fence
along
the
rear,
the
parking
spaces.
Beyond
that
gate,
we
have
exceeds
36
feet.
F
We
actually
have
two
spaces
worth
behind
the
gate,
as
well
as
two
spaces
worth
in
front
of
the
gate
or
two
or
three
we're
also
adding
a
pool
in
the
far
left
corner,
trying
to
maximize
the
amount
of
green
space
between
the
accessory
structure
and
the
pool
with
a
small
walkway
that
leads
around
the
edge
and
then
the
stairs
pick
up
at
the
corner
and
and
move
up
move
up
to
a
second
story.
Porch
that
enters
the
ac,
the
condition
space
the
space
below
is
just
you
know,
car
parking
and
storage.
F
The
the
front
gates
we're
looking
to
emulate
something
along
these
lines,
mostly
pressure
treated,
maybe
with
a
couple
cedar
inlays
for
color.
Maybe
it's
more
of
a
play
and
stain.
As
we
know,
the
cost
of
lumber
right
now
is
is
increasing,
so
they're
going
to
be
watchful
of
what
that
final
material
is,
we
might
have
a
gate
on
the
flanking
side
or
at
the
rear
of
the
property
and
for
the
the
back
of
the
property.
This
would
be
the
the
main
fence
typology.
F
I'll,
just
through
the
floor
plan,
I'm
just
going
to
point
out
accessory
structure,
storage,
car
parking
stairs
up
along
the
side
enters
on
the
second
floor
into
living
space.
We
have
a
hip
roof
on
all
sides
with
an
extended
hip
over
the
access
porch
and
a
small
gable
on
the
front
that
matches
some
of
the
gable
proportions
found
on
the
house.
F
We
had
to
decrease
the
roof
pitch
a
hair
just
so
that
we
fall
within
the
22
and
a
half
feet,
but
we're
utilizing
the
same
structural
members
we're
going
to
use
some
cedar
riggers
with
a
cedar
bar
drafter
on
the
on
the
front
end
and
we're
using
shingle
roof
material,
which
was
approved
in
the
first
go-round
on
the
front,
we're
using
a
clopay
garage
door
which
we're
going
to
find
like
a
period
appropriate
version
and
the
one
drawn
pretty
much
matches
what
they
have
in
their
brochure,
which
we
can
visit
later
throughout
the
material
study,
small
access
door
into
the
storage
area,
the
garage
with
stairs
running
up
the
side,
we'll
do
not
very
much
ornament
in
terms
of
the
columns,
but
you
know
pretty
decent
proportions.
F
F
We
have
lights
at
the
top
of
the
doors,
the
other
side,
so
this
faces
the
house
to
to
the
right,
and
then
this
wall
here
faces
the
alley
which
is
right
across
the
street
from
a
multi-family
complex.
Hence
the
lack
of
windows,
mostly
for
privacy
concerns.
F
We
have
a
section
at
the
at
the
porch
showing
another
beam.
It's
mostly
going
to
be.
You
know,
handled
with
trusses,
with
with
a
foe,
with
a
with
a
pre-formed
rafter
base,
underneath
it
with
a
attic
vent
because
we're
using
blown
insulation.
F
Neighborhood
we
have
here,
we
have
some
railing
details,
new
post
detail,
just
showing
the
appropriate
manner
in
terms
of
beveling,
the
top
gaps
and
being
wary
of
not
creating
any
spaces
for
water
to
collect
and
potentially
rot
it
out.
F
F
Hence
the
modern
mission
appeal
at
the
base,
we're
going
to
use
an
extruded,
concrete,
sill
and
I
believe,
we're
using
mi
windows,
a
a
vinyl
aluminum,
clad
window
and
we're
basically
just
picking
out
some
of
our
elemental
details
and
providing
some
dimensions
to
them.
And
a
lot
of
these
dimensions
are,
you
know
they
show
up
around
the
historic
neighborhoods.
F
The
clients
really
wanted
to
use,
you
know,
emulate
this
kind
of
modern
mission
style
and
in
the
neighborhood
there
were
several
other
emission
slash
modern
mission
projects
that
we
kind
of
pulled
some
of
the
proportions
and
the
spaces
the
rhythms
of
the
porch.
The
tripartite
again
here
is
the
sorry,
the
sandboard
image
of
of
the
existing
structure.
Well,
pre-existing
it's
a
it's
an
empty
lot
now
and
then
this
is
an
image
showing
our
footprint
on
it
just
so
we
get
a
feel
for
it.
F
This
is
showing
the
houses,
so
you
can
see,
there's
a
lot
of
proportion,
and
this
is
some
of
the
carriage
houses
that
are
within
a
block
or
two
of
the
property.
Actually
there's
many
more,
but
we
kind
of
just
grabbed
a
select
few.
Some
of
them
are
quite
large
in
scale
which
probably
they
were
there
earlier,
or
maybe
they
meet
all
the
primary
setbacks
because
they're
a
separate
lot.
F
F
F
I
don't
think
we
have
any
pavers
on
the
garage.
That's
for
the
house,
we're
showing
the
the
intent
for
the
ribbon
driveway
and
we're
gonna
have
natural
grass
planted
here,
we're
actually
showing
the
driveway
in
our
in
our
site
plan.
F
F
F
We're
using
a
pgt,
casement,
vinyl
interior
windows,
we're
gonna,
have
divided
lights
on
several
of
the
windows
and
we'll
try
to
keep
in
mind
proportions,
and
we
can
flip
back
to
the
elevations
if
we
need
to
for
the
for
the
fences,
there's
some
imagery
that
we
found
that
we
were
trying
to
emulate
why
it's
so
zoomed
in
for
the
front
gate,
not
necessarily
this
exact
design.
F
F
F
I
think
I
think
that
concludes
presentation.
E
Staff,
finding
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
design
guidelines.
This
presentation
this
evening
complements
the
approval
from
the
march
public
hearing.
That
is
a
connection
with
the
primary
structure.
The
one
item
that
I
have
remaining
from
the
staff
report
is
the
introduction
of
additional
windows
on
the
rear,
the
front
or
the
right
elevation.
As
indicated
on
his
drawings,
the
historic
structures
back
in
the
day
had
some
articulation.
E
A
A
C
Questions,
mr
ferlano,
can
you
show
us
the
the
offending
blank
walls
on
your
accessory
structure,
please
or
possibly
offending.
F
So
we
have
the
wall
facing
the
the
multi-family
complex,
okay,.
C
F
The
alley-
and
then
this
is
the
wall
on
the
right
side
of
the
house
that
sits
basically
right
on
the
fence
line
there
at
the
corner.
C
C
F
F
D
A
If
we
could,
I
guess,
go
back
maybe
to
the
floor
plans
real,
quick
and
look
at
some
of
these
windows.
So
on
the
north
window
I
understand
maybe
not
having
a
window
in
the
bathroom
and
where
the
cabinets
are.
I
do
understand
that,
but
could
you
look
at
an
option
to
where
you
do
have
a
window
kind
of
in
that
entry,
dining
area?
You
know,
for
example,
you
could
align
it
with
the
window
on
the
south
facade
if
you
wanted
to
have
a
window
on
the
north
on
level.
Two.
F
F
Did
actually
we,
I
actually
had
an
access
door
that
here
at
one
point
and
then
just
to
help
smooth
out
the
rhythm
of
the
facade.
We
had
a
window,
but
they
were
a
little
bit
worried
about
breaking
and
entering
kind
of
keep
that
facade
of
the
alley
for
sure
windowless
on
the
ground
floor
and
then
on
the
return
wall
along
the
side
of
the
neighbor's
house.
It
was
adjacent
to
a
fence,
so
it
didn't
seem
like
it
actually
had
a
lot
of
merit
to
have
on
there.
F
F
So
these
are
the
these
are
the
the
windowless
areas
here
and
here
which
this
will
have
there's
an
existing
fence
here
and
then
we're
adding
a
new
fence
here
yeah.
So
I
I
agree
with
the
the
window
opening
up
to
the
pool
for
sure,
but
they
did
express
privacy
concerns
to
the
multi-family
complex
in
the
second
story.
Okay,.
B
I
have
a
question:
there
was
a
note
here
about
the
final
stuck
stucco
pattern.
What
was
that
in
regards
to?
Because
I.
F
B
F
B
A
So
one
thing
that
was
mentioned
so
part
of
the
application
is
the
the
site,
kind
of
conditions
or
site
additions,
improvements
which
part
of
that
is
the
pool.
Is
there
any
planned
hardscapes
or
anything
that
are
to
go
around
the
pool
or
what's
the
intentions
with
that
from.
F
What
I
gather
on
our
early,
you
know
adventures
on
this
was
for
it
to
be
pretty
clean
and
modern,
probably
some
plantings,
but
not
that
I'm
aware
of
they'd
probably
handle
that
with
either
the
pool
company
at
some
point
or
or
another
rep
outside
of
my
scope
of
work.
A
F
A
E
B
I
I
can
understand
the
homeowner's
request,
especially
if
indeed
there
is
a
multi-family
to
the
north
and
that
privacy
concern.
I
would
encourage
the
addition
of
the
window
at
that
kitchenette
space.
Personally,
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
little
dark
in
there
and
if
you
know
you
have
guests,
you
kind
of
want
them
to
feel
like
they're
in
a
space.
That's
relaxing
so
just
be
careful
of
the
lighting,
your
daylight
that
you
allow
in
to
enter
that
in
terms
of
the
east
elevation,
which
I,
which
is
where
the
bed
is.
B
You
know
there
are
historical
examples
of
high
tall
windows
that
let
light
in
without
concerns
major
concerns
for
privacy.
So
again,
you
know
just
thinking
about
ways
that
you
bring
more
daylight
in
we're
all
trying
to
be
a
little
bit
more
sustainable.
So
history
gives
us
great
examples.
You
know
pre
pre-gas
lights,
how
to
bring
light
into
spaces.
B
So,
even
though
this
is
small,
it's
nice
to
be
in
a
small
space
with
a
lot
of
light,
it
feels
bigger,
just
reconsider,
maybe
some
of
that,
but
other
than
that
I
mean
that
the
the
lower
level
where
the
the
actual
car
resides
and
that's
that
corner
of
the
northwest
corner.
I
can
certainly
understand
why.
B
C
A
If
all
right,
if
there's
no,
if
there's
no
further
discussions,
what
a
commissioner
like
to
make
a
motion.
C
C
In
arc
21-223
for
the
property
located
at
1711,
west
hills
avenue,
because
based
up
upon
finding,
in
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
design.
The
hyde
park,
design
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons:
its
compliance
with
requirements
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness.
B
C
C
A
E
E
E
E
This
is
looking
at
the
side:
elevations
a
heavy
landscaping,
it's
hard
to
get
a
picture
in
there,
so
looking
at
the
rear.
This
is
where
the
most
of
the
addition
is
going
to
go
here.
There
is
a
small
screened
in
area
to
the
side
of
this
of
the
structure
and
then
a
small
mud
room
transition
room
from
the
outside.
E
As
you
come
in
and
then
the
last
photo
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
is
looking
from
the
rear
of
the
yard,
looking
at
the
back
of
the
primary
structure
and
then
the
detached
structure
here
and
the
separation
that
they
have
already
with
the
pool.
That's
here
that
kind
of
went
into
the
discussion
of
how
to
add
on
and
keep
in
the
pool.
G
Good
evening,
ralph
schuler
with
jv
arctic
2401,
north.
G
G
So
the
existing
structure
is
here,
of
course,
with
an
existing
screened
in
porch,
which
is
going
to
be
removed.
That
was
added
later
than
the
original
1925
structure.
I
could
not
find
when
it
was
added,
but
it's
been
there
quite
some
time
the
pool
was
added
around
the
mid
80s.
That's
going
to
remain
this.
This
paper
drive
I'm
sorry.
G
This
ribbon
drive
here
is
going
to
be
replaced
with
a
similar
ribbon
drive
just
because
of
the
port
quality
ribbon
drive
this
existing
shed
and
I
would
it
is
an
accessory
structure,
but
it's
really
not
quite
big
enough
to
really
hold
a
car.
It's
only
17
by
12
and
has
access
from
from
the
rear
alley
which
this
is
not
depicted.
But
in
my
other
documents
it
is
so
on
the
first
floor,
slash
new
site
plan.
G
G
So
this
is
the
existing
first
floor
plan,
as
it
is
now
again
with
with
a
pretty
large
rear,
screened
in
porch,
which
has
become
the
new
proposed
floor
plan
so
that
floor
plan
is
here
again
that's
about
the
same
footprint
except
ours
is
going
to
be
two
story.
The
existing.
G
Staircase
here
is
not
the
code,
it's
narrow,
it's
eight
and
a
half
nine
inch
treads
and
it
doesn't
work
so
we're
proposing
again
to
rework
the
kitchen
and
in
a
new
two-coat
staircase.
That
gets
you
to
a
second
floor,
so
the
second
floor
demolition.
Here
we
go
so
this
is
the
existing
second
floor,
which
we're
gonna
all
really
only
demolish
the
this
rear
wall
and
and
in
the
staircase.
G
Is
here
it's
mimicking
the
the
first
floor
footprint
we
are
extending
the
the
second
floor
or
sorry
the
the
new
addition
about
six
inches
on
each
side
to
pronounce
that
and
we'll
get
the
elevations
you'll
see
that
the
second
floor
is
really
just
a
new
master
bedroom
suite
and
then
the
roof
plan
takes
this
pop-up
here
and
engages
a
t-shaped
roof
again.
We'll
look
at
that
as
it
relates
to
the
elevations.
G
Elevations
so,
let's
start
with
the
existing
front
elevation,
which
is
here
all
all
these
elements
would
remain
unchanged,
the
all
the
brackets
and
then
and
the
gable
and
details
would
remain
the
same
on
on
the
proposed.
Of
course,
beyond
you
would
not
even
see
it
from
the
street
would
be
would
be
the
new
elements
of
the
edition
rear
edition.
G
So
again,
the
existing
east
elevation
is
here
this
this
skirt
board,
which
is
nearly
to
the
ground.
As
ron
says,
this
is
this
existing
porch,
which
does
have
exposed.
G
Piers
and
we're
going
to
mimic
those
again
there's
a
transition
right
here
of
a
small
small.
I
mean
we
have
some
pictures
of
that.
I
didn't
bring
any
with
me,
but
so
the
addition
again
engages
what
is
the.
G
Up
and-
and
this
was
really
a
loft
feel
here-
we
leave
that
loft
feel
propose
a
second
floor,
master
bedroom,
first
floor,
great
room
and
then
facing
east.
G
And
then
on
the
rear
which-
which
I
think
is
important
here,
then
those
those
rafter
tails
which
are
the
signature
of
this
project
would
within
again
continue
across
the
back
of
the
property
facing
the
pool
that
helps
break
up
the
massing,
even
though
it
is
in
the
rear.
We
want
to
try
and
take
take
this
same
concept
of
the
pop-up
and
try
and
show
that,
even
though
it's
a
bigger
element
to
to
take
the
first
and
second
floor
and
make
them
be
different,.
G
Again,
saint
piers
new
new
new
peers,
but
of
course
they
would
be
cmu
with
a
thin
brick
exposure
or
whatever
it's
that
is
seen.
There
is
no
current.
Currently,
there
is
no
screening
on
on
any
of
the
house
as
existing
we're
going
to
propose
to
a
little
screening
of
of
the
base.
G
I'm
sorry
looking
for
the
right
right,
drawing
yeah,
so
this
drawing
here
you
can
see
existing
the
skirt
does
all
it
comes
to
here
and
then
stops
and
then
all
of
this
on
the
rear,
these
piers
and
that
foundation
is
exposed.
We're
going
to
propose
to
with
this
same
vertical
lat
siding
our
first
vertical
lap
here,
which.
G
This
wall
section
shows
the
the
east
wall
of
the
porch,
so
this
is
a
screened
in
porch.
There's
a
window
where
we're
going
to
have
thin
brick
around
all
exposed
sides
of
the
piers
we're
going
to
have
a
two
and
a
quarter
by
three
quarter.
Inch
frame
here
at
the
base
with
one
and
a
half
by
three
quarter.
Inch
vertical
pickets
could.
G
That's
that's
described
here
about
the
screening
of
the
foundation
and
then
we
would
obviously
match
all
of
the
existing
bracketing
on
all
the
gable
ends
to
be
identical
to.
What's
on
the
existing
house.
Now
often
with
with
the
gable
end
details
to
match
those
windows
and
windows
are
typically
nine
over
one
on
the
double
hungs
and
then
that's
what
we
have
primarily
on
this
edition.
There
are
some,
of
course,
some
casements
on
what
I
call
the
loft
area,
but
we
don't
have
any
anything
repeated
there.
G
That
would
be
these
kind
of
windows,
but
our
our
edition
is
mainly
the
nine
over
one
with
those
would
be
wood
to
sit.
G
And
then
just
to
review,
because
I
know
we
do
have
some
site
improvements,
I
wanted
to
make
sure
everyone
understood
what
what's
going
on
here,
so
the
new
driveway,
it's
ribbon
all
the
way
to
to
the
face
of
the
of
the
main
structure,
proposing
a
solid
driveway
beyond
that,
there's
existing
fence
that
we're
going
to
be
keeping
this.
This
fence
is
in
very
good
condition,
we're
going
to
put
a
new
new
gate
here
and
a
new
gate
here.
G
G
This
existing
pool
and
deck
is
to
remain
this.
Existing
sexy
structure
is
to
remain.
Don't
propose
to
do
anything
with
that
in
for
for
this
presentation,.
G
G
This
would
be
a
sierra
pacific
window
and
all
wood
window
double
hung
this.
This
has
would
be
for
the
new
house.
The
existing
house
would
have
just
rehabilitated
windows
or
replaced
as
needed
with
again
similar,
similar
details,
not
the
same
obviously
nine
over
one.
But
that's
that's
what
it
looks
like
in
its
face.
G
The
front
door
currently
has
different
hardware
we're
proposing
to
keep
the
front
door.
We
would
not
have
the
keyed
entry,
we'd
have
the
just
the
standard
thumb
latch
and
then
so
the
front
would
be
as
a
square
black
entry
hardware,
the.
G
We
had
proposed
potentially
an
an
outdoor
element.
We
had
to
remove
that
we're
gonna
investigate
that
at
a
later
date.
G
We
have
about
10
feet
here
that,
if
you
wanted
to,
you
could
potentially
have
this
driveway
come
around
the
mud
room
and
if
you
had
a
bigger
accessory
structure,
this
current
exact
structure
does
not
open
to
the
street
or
the
drive,
but
currently
opens
to
the
alley
and
is
not
literally
large
enough
for
a
car.
But
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
if
and
when
that
could
happen,
that
there
is
enough
room
to
do
that,
which
I
believe
there
is
and
then
we
did
change
the
design
quite
a
bit.
G
I
think
we
had
some
hip
roofs,
we've
made
them
to
gables,
which
is
depicted
on
these
drawings,
and
I
believe,
we've
addressed
all
the
other
staff
report.
Questions
with
that
I'll
take
take
questions.
E
Good
evening,
commissioner
ron
villa
staff
with
historic
preservations
understands
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park
design
guidelines,
as
ralph
stated
on
record
that
we
went
through
the
drawings
last
week
pretty
extensively,
there
was
the
incorporation
of
some
hips
that
were
kind
of
foreign
to
to
this
site.
So
this
evening
he's
provided
gables
to
match
the
the
vernacular
of
the
structure.
That's
there
now,
so
staff
has
no
no
concerns
with
with
that
request,
the
roof
line
around
the
rear.
He
incorporated
the
roof
line.
E
Excuse
me
the
roof
and
the
in
the
back
did
not
continue
around.
On
the
first
level,
the
facade
looked
a
little
flat
on
that,
so
he
continued
the
roof
line
to
incorporate
this
first
and
the
second
story
into
that
facade.
E
He
did
have
some
outside
elements,
some
garden
elements
that
were
associated
with
the
request.
There
were
some
code
concerns,
so
at
this
point
he
removed
them
and
they're
no
longer
part
of
of
this
request.
His
request
is
not
the
information
that
went
out
to
you
last
week,
sometime
it's
what
the
presentation
shows
today.
So
that's
what
you
should
comment
on.
A
Thank
you
at
this
point,
we'll
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
public
comment.
If
anyone
would
like
to
speak
either
for
or
against
I've
seeing
none.
The
commissioners
can
now
ask
questions
about
the
projects
and
maybe,
as
ron
mentioned,
can
go
through
before
we
ask
questions
and
look
at
the
the
wall
sections
and
just
run
through
the
materials
I'll
do
that.
G
Now,
yes,
okay,
sure,
so
of
course
this
is
lap,
siding
wood,
flap,
siding
to
match
the
existing
structure,
wood,
wood,
casings,
all
the
casings
are
currently
five
and
a
half
inches.
That
would
that
would
be
typical
throughout
the
addition,
the
bead
board
ceilings,
three
quarter
tongue
and
groove
flooring
on
the
porch.
G
Again,
all
wood
detailing
wood
wood
bracketing
mats
match
the
same
gable,
venting
details
that
are
consistent
throughout
the
building
and
and
again
thin
brick
for
the
piers
and
pt
frame
and
in
vertical
pickets
for
for
the
foundation
screening-
and
I
think
that's
and
then,
of
course,
if
it
currently
has
a
5v
crimp
metal
roof.
We
would
continue
that
throughout
the.
A
B
B
With
you
know
the
the
idea
of
porch
right,
it's
it's
it's
floor
to
ceiling
for
the
most
part,
and
I
understand,
there's
furnishing
and
there's
probably
built-ins
and
things
like
that,
but
just
the
idea
of
permeability
you
know
and
that
that
draw
to
the
rear,
yep.
G
I
understand
so,
I
think
I
think
your
your
questions.
Of
course,
this
rear
elevation
has
at
the
great
room,
there's
a
large
great
room,
there's
going
to
be
a
triple
window
on
both
sides.
Second
floor
has
you
know
two
double
windows.
G
This
is
this:
is
the
master
bathroom,
it's
the
master
bedroom
so
when
we
have
double
windows
and
a
side
window
on
on
on
the
master
bathroom,
so
we
have
three
windows
in
the
bathroom
alone
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
on
both
sides,
some
more
windows
for
indoors
access
for
the
porch
and
in
the
mud
room.
G
G
Well,
this
is
facing
facing
west
through
three
windows,
so
I
think
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
windows.
I
understand
compared
to
the
pop-up
with
which
is
basically
a
loft.
Upstairs
it's
got
all
these
little
casement
windows
we're
retaining
those
as
much
as
possible,
of
course,
but
on
the
rear
elevation.
Specifically.
B
A
You
I
have
two
questions.
The
first
one
is
tied
to
so.
If
we
look
at
the
existing
structure,
the
siding
right
now
for
the
foundation
as
you've
mentioned,
comes
almost
all
the
way
down
to
the
ground,
and
then
it
looks
like
there's
just
some
kind
of
openings
for
either
vents
or
screens
to
kind
of
access
below
correct.
So,
if
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
the
new
edition
that
foundation
enclosure
will
be
completely
separate
and
different
from
what
we
currently
have
correct.
So.
G
What
we
currently
have,
which
is
maybe
didn't
quite
explain
it
well
enough,
but
so
the
existing
condition
here
now
and
there
is
a
current
exposed
foundation
and
it
transitions
right
here
and
I
I
apologize,
but
I
don't
have
a
very
good
picture
of
it,
but
there's
a
basically
a
a
raked
board
that
starts.
You
know
from
two
inches
and
goes
down
to
about
four
four
or
five
inches.
What
we're
proposing
and
the
reason
why
we
we
have
our
floor
plan.
G
The
way
it
does
is
that
we're
proposing
to
pop
pop
our
second,
our
first
and
second
floor
out,
so
that
skirt
board
dives
into
our
addition.
So
I
think
it
improves
that
detail
to
what
we
currently
have
so.
A
My
question
relates
more
towards
everything
kind
of
towards
this
image
to
the
right
of
the
porch,
so
your
house,
so
right
now
you
have
that
siding.
That
kind
of
comes
all
the
way
down
it
flares
out
towards
the
ground.
Was
there
any
consideration
kind
of
looked
at
to
where
the
new
addition?
Besides,
maybe
the
porch
had
a
similar
design
to
where
it
kind
of
included
and
started
to
copy
that
same
enclosure
piece
all
the
way
around.
G
This
this,
this
detail
is
long
term
can
be
problematic
for
not
only
for
access,
but
but
the
wearability
that
some
of
this
some
of
these
boards
are
not
not
not
in
great
condition
and
they're
going
to
be
addressed,
of
course,
as
part
of
the
renovation,
the
the
this
rear
addition
again
pops
out
and
and
let's
look
at
the
rear
port
yeah.
Here
we
go.
G
However,
we
we
we
don't
bring
the
flared
skirt
board
and
it's
unknown
exactly
when
that
porch
was
built,
but
it
was
built
decades
ago.
I
think
in
the
50s
or
60s
at
earliest,
and
I
wanted
to-
I
guess,
respect
that,
even
though
I
didn't
really
love
the
detail,
I
think
I
think
this
this
gives
you
kind
of
the
marrying
of
what
was
old
to
what
is
new
but
improves
it
and
then
and
then
also
to
to
bring
that
around
here
and
back
here.
I
I
didn't.
G
I
didn't
feel
that
it
was
the
best
design,
I
guess,
for
lack
of
a
better
word.
A
Okay-
and
I
guess,
while
we're
on
that
subject,
if
that
does
become
a
an
item,
that
the
commissioners
would
like
to
discuss
or
kind
of
make,
a
recommendation
for,
is
there
kind
of
an
opinion
either
by
yourself
or
the
owners
of?
If
that
was
to
be
included?
Is
that
something
that's
been
discussed?
A
G
But
so
between
the
the
contractor-
and
I
have
this
had
discussed
it-
this
is
going
to
be
a
design,
build
project,
peter
carlin,
who
used
to
throw
on
the
sport.
It's
going
to
do
do
the
construction,
and
he
was
very
concerned
about
mimicking
that
detail
again.
It
is
while
it
is
an
interesting
detail,
is
provided
on.
G
You
know
a
good
amount
of
houses
in
hyde
park,
doing
it
on
on
on
the
addition,
he
felt-
and
I
agreed
with
him
of
course
was-
was
probably
going
to
be
a
long
problem
and
how
we
solved
it
with
again
making
the
edition,
wider
and
and
and
try
and
clean
up
that
detail.
Okay-
and
that
was
our
response.
All.
A
So
my
question
relates
towards
the
mud
room,
sort
of
addition
that
extends
kind
of
into
what
would
be
the
driveway
if
that
driveway
was
to
either
extend
all
the
way
to
accessory
structure
or
in
the
future.
I
know
you
mentioned
that
there's
you
said
about
10
feet.
Right
now,
well
proposed
right,
it's
about
10
feet.
A
Yes,
so
was
there
any
sort
of
studies
or
looked
at
to
where
that
mud
room
did
not
extend
as
far
to
the
south
or
plan
south
here
to
allow
it
to
to
not
kind
of
intrude
into
that
line
of
sight
to
where
that
way?
Typically,
you
would
see
kind
of
your.
You
know
your
driveway
go
all
the
way
towards
right.
Your
accessory
structure.
G
So,
of
course,
you
know
specifically
this
house,
this
house
never
had
a
garage
or
an
accessory
structure
that
ever
did
that,
but
I
understand
most
houses
in
hyde
park
do
this.
This
mud
room
on
purpose
is
as
small
as
possible.
G
It's
only
it's
protrudes
about
six
feet,
so
we
did,
I
think,
allow
if,
in
the
future
some
other
person
down
the
road
you
know
could
could
like
the
previous
applicant.
If
you
saw
you
know
they
had
not
a
perfectly
straight
driveway.
They
had
some
some
things
that
meandered
and
this
driveway
could
easily
be
cut
off
at
some
point
in
the
future
and
meander
here
and
and
still
allow
for
an
accessory
structure.
G
The
problem
is
is
currently
for
an
accessory
structure
to
meet
modern
requirements.
The
pool
really
has
to
go
so
pool's
an
element,
that's
obviously
not
being
proposed
to
be
removed
and
it's
expensive.
So
we
left
an
ability
for
a
what,
if
I
guess
for
like
a
better
word,
but
currently
that's
not
been
in
anyone's
mode
of
thinking.
Okay,.
A
B
I
would
like
to
discuss
the
line-up
questioning
that
you
had
brought
up,
which
was
the
the
skirt
board
versus
the
more
open.
Personally,
I
I
feel
that
it's
a
great
way
to
to
clean
up
that
detail
as
well
as
note
that
there
is
an
addition.
That
is
not
of
the
time.
So
I
I
like
that
reasoning
and
I
do
think
it's
a
clean
way
of
completing
that
historically
about
the
skirts.
I
would
have
an
argument
there,
but
I
don't
think
it's
apropos.
B
B
Window
openings
that
go
to
the
floor
closer
to
the
floor,
there's
certain
precedents
for
that
where
we
convert
porches
and
you
know,
make
them
into
spaces-
and
I
know
we
can't
see
this
in
the
street,
but
the
idea
of
permeability
and
openness
to
the
pool
as
as
a
homeowner.
I
I
would
you
know,
want
that
myself
to
be
able
to
see
to
my
pool
and
my
garden
and
that
that,
as
a
retreat,
space
just
adds
to
the
visual
experience
and
and
the
just
the
experience
of
being
within
the
house
itself.
B
So
those
are
two
things.
I
know
that
the
the
upper
story
is
a
little
bit
more
difficult,
but
the
idea
of
the
loft
space
and
how
that
expresses
itself.
I
understand
why
it's
lost,
but.
A
A
A
In
my
opinion,
the
second
floor,
the
same
thing
I
think,
on
the
the
rear
side.
The
windows
are,
you
know,
work.
I
agree
with
you.
There
is
something
kind
of
about
the
the
windows
that
you
get
up
in
the
loft
right
now
in
the
existing
piece,
how
it
wraps
all
three
sides
that
you
do
lose.
A
A
Yep,
so
it's,
it
doesn't
really
seem
like
there's
a
nice
way
to
kind
of
include
that,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
see
if
you
could.
But
personally
I
just
I
don't
know
what
you
would
do.
That
would
still
give
you
that
same
impact.
B
C
I
think
that,
for
the
you're
working
with
the
series
on
the
first
floor,
you're
working
with
this
series
of
of
givens
as
the
owner
doesn't
want
to
take
away
the
pool.
If
you
run
those
windows
down
to
the
floor
or
closer
to
the
floor,
I
think
you're
going
to
get
this
kind
of
as
you
arrive
at
those
windows
because
you're
going
to
feel
like
you're
ready
to
fall
into
the
pool
kind
of
normally,
when
we
have
that
when
we
have
that
experience,
you
have
a
little
more
room.
C
I
think,
and
as
for
this,
as
for
the
skirt,
I
think
that
the
the
solution
that
is
proposed
by
the
agent
is
a
is
a
good
one,
particularly
considering
that
there
will
probably
be
some
landscaping
along
there
and
it's
tight.
It's
like
a
three.
B
C
Bed,
and
so
the
skirt
is,
you
know
it's
going
to
get
lost
behind
some
indian
hawthorne
or
something
and
upstairs.
I.
I
completely
agree
with
your
lament
about
losing
those
gang
when
those
gang
casements,
but
they
did
keep
them
in
that
kind
of
connecting
area
which
I
think
is
going
to
be
pretty.
It
doesn't
seem
like
it's
going
to
be
particularly
useful,
but
I
think
it's
going
to
be
really
pleasant
and
I
think
that
the
the
bedroom
works
well.
The
way
it
is.
B
D
D
D
I
moved
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
arc
21-306
for
the
property
located
at
2012
west
decal
avenue,
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
hyde
park.
Historic
district
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following
reasons
that
the
massing,
the
building
massing,
is
consistent
with
other
buildings
in
the
district
that
the
alignment
rhythm
and
spacing
are
consistent
with
existing
patterns
and,
finally,
that
the
facade
proportions
and
windows
are
consistent
with
the
guidelines.