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welcome
are,
everyone,.
I
am
>
welcome
are,
everyone,.
I
am
john
thompson,
chair
of
the
john
thompson,.
Chair
of
the
commission.-
commission.-
if
you
were
here
to
present
a
if
you
were
here
to
present
a
project,,
you
will
have
limited
project,.
You
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise
when
coming
to
the
but
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
A
microphone.,
you
will
need
to
identify,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
to
the
project.
commissioners
will
not
ask
commissioners
will
not
ask
questions
regarding
to
the
questions
regarding
to
the
application.
application.
site,
plan,
elevations,
site,
plan,,
elevations,,
architectural
details,
wall,
architectural
details,
wall,
sections.,
sections.
staff
presents
the
staff.
Re
staff
presents
the
staff
re
report.
report..
We
will
then
ask
for
public.
We
will
then
ask
for
public
comment.
comment.
A
A
Please
state
and
spell
clearly
your
name
if
you
are
here
to
your
name,
if
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
the
speak
for
or
against
the
project.
project.,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
three
minutes.
so
take
some
time
now
to
so
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
go
by
quickly.
A
three
minutes
go
by
quickly.
following
public
comment,,
the
following
public
comment,,
the
applicant
will
have
five
applicant-
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
minutes
for
rebuttal..
The
public
hearing
will
then
be.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
closed..
The
only
comments
that
will
be
the
only
comments
that
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed,
will
be
in
hearing
is
closed,
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners..
The
commissioners.
commissioners
will
then
discuss.
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A
A
The
blc
is
only
act
on
items
of
our
jurisdictional
of
our
jurisdictional
responsibility
and
owner
agent,
responsibility
and
owner
agent
needs
to
obtain
permits
and
needs
to
obtain
permits
and
approvals.
approvals..
If
you
haven't
done
so,
silence,
if
you
haven't
done
so,,
silence
your
cell
phones
and
would
like
your
cell
phones
and
would
like
to
introduce
commissioners
to.
D
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E
Any
opposed?
motion
carries.
motion,
carries.
minutes,
approved.
minutes
approved.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
dennis.
dennis.,
dennis
fernandez:,
dennis
dennis
fernandez:,
dennis
fernandez,
architectural
review,
fernandez,
architectural
review
and
historic
preservation
and
historic
preservation,
manager.
manager..
I
want
to
bring
why
tower.
E
E
B
F
With
that,,
I
will
have
ron
come
up.
up.
ron,
vila:,
good
morning,
ron,
vila:,
good
morning,,
commissioners,
ron,
vila,
staff,
commissioners,
ron,
vila,
staff,
with
historic
presentation.,
with
historic
presentation.
under
continuations,,
none
under
continuations,;
none
reflected
on
the
agenda.
This
reflected
on
the
agenda
this
morning.
morning.
at
in
time.
Our
legal
advisor.
G
G
G
G
The
agenda
this
morning?-
I
don't
hearing
anything,,
so
no,
I
don't
hearing
anything,
so
no
responses
from
the
city
--
from
responses
from
the
city
--
from
the
commissioners.,
the
commissioners..
Next
I
am
going
to
ask
any
next.
I
am
going
to
ask
any
commissioners,:
are
there
any
commissioners,?
Are
there
any
conflict
of
interests
regarding
conflict
of
interests
regarding
any
of
items
listed
on
the.
H
G
Information
and
share
what
their
project
was,,
but
I
should
their
project
was,,
but
I
should
be
able
to
be
fair
and
be
able
to
be
fair
and
impartial,
today.,
impartial,
today.,
not
a
problem.,
not
a
problem.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
commissioner
welch,
regarding
commissioner
welch,
regarding
the
ybor
hotel
holdings
items.
G
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F
F
Of
2106
north
17th
street.,
the
underlying
zones
on
this,
the
underlying
zones
on
this
parcel
is
yc.
4.
parcel
is
yc
4..
This
is
coming
forward
for
a
this
is
coming
forward
for
a
recommendation
this
morning
for
recommendation
this
morning
for
a
comp
plan,
amendment
from
r-50
a
comp
plan,
amendment
from
r-50
to
umu-60.
F
F
Density
and
the
fabric
that
was
established
in
'29.
established
in
'29.,
the
yellow,
indicates
frame
the
yellow
indicates
frame
construction.
construction..
Then
you
see
a
couple
of
then
you
see
a
couple
of
ancillary
buildings
that
flank
ancillary
buildings
that
flank
the
property
in
question,
which
the
property
in
question,
which
is
in
green.,
is
in
green.
our
brick
buildings.
F
F
F
This
is
a
vicinity
map
to
kind
of
get
your
bearings.
of
get
your
bearings.
property
in
question.
Is
property
in
question
is
obviously
highlighted
with
the
obviously
highlighted
with
the
arrow
there.
arrow
there.
to
the
north.
You
have
to
the
north.
You
have
interstate
4.,
interstate
4.
and
once
again,
it
is
on
palm.
F
F
F
Abuts,
the
immediate
vicinity.,
you
have
the
hilton
garden
inn.,
you
have
the
hilton
garden
inn.,
you
have
pa
church.,
you
have
pa
church.,
a
series
of
hcc
buildings.,
a
series
of
hcc
buildings.,
and
you
have
some
vacant
and
you
have
some
vacant
parcels
and
parking
to
the
parcels
and
parking
to
the
west.
west..
And
then
you
have
the
haciendas.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
To
the
east,
down
palm
behind
the
centro
historiano,,
you
have
the
centro
historiano,.
You
have
the
parking
area
and
parking
as
the
parking
area
and
parking
as
well
associated
with
the
well
associated
with
the
children's
board.
children's
board..
This
is
the
massing
of
the
this
is
the
massing
of
the
children's
board
and
k
force.
F
F
F
F
F
F
And
just
to
conclude,
the
continuation
of
the
housing,
continuation
of
the
housing
apartments
or
condos
today
and
apartments
or
condos
today,
and
you
have
the
sheriff's
office.,
you
have
the
sheriff's
office.
as
we
approach
the
corner
of
as
we
approach
the
corner
of
palm
and
22nd.
palm
and
22nd.
kind
of
the
fabric
along
22nd,.
F
F
J
J
J
J
of
interior
standards..
What
we
are
seeking
today
is
a
what
we
are
seeking
today
is
a
recommendation
from
the
tampa
recommendation
from
the
tampa
city
council
that
the
proposed
city
council,
that
the
proposed
louis
change
will
maintain.
The
louis
change
will
maintain
the
integrity
and
character
of
the
integrity
and
character
of
the
ybor
city,
historic
district,
ybor,
city,
historic
district.
Assuming
that
all
regulations,
assuming
that
all
regulations
are
met.,
are
met.,
the
process
works
like
this.
J
Land
change
goes
to
the
land
planning
agency,,
the
planning
agency,,
the
hillsborough
county,
city-county
hillsborough,
county
city-county,
planning,
commission
and
planning
commission
and
reviewed
by
their
staff
and
reviewed
by
their
staff,
and
they
act
on
recommendation
from
they
act.
On
recommendation
from
the
tampa
city
council
with
the
the
tampa
city
council,
with
the
finding
of
consistency
and.
J
Finding
of
consistency
and
inconsistency
to
the
tampa
city,
inconsistency
to
the
tampa.
City.
Council.-
council.-
a
couple
of
months
ago,
the
a
couple
of
months
ago
the
action
was
heard
by
the
action
was
heard
by
the
planning
commission,
received
planning
commission,,
received
unanimous
recommendation
of
unanimous
recommendation
of
finding
of
consistency
to
tampa
finding
of
consistency
to
tampa
city
council
and
had
a
positive
city
council
and
had
a
positive
recommendation
from
the
recommendation
from
the
planning
commission,
staff.
J
J
J
As
I
stated
early
on,,
the
land
use
change,
maintain
the
use,
change,
maintain
the
integrity
and
character
of
the
integrity
and
character
of
the
ybor
city,
and
that
is
a
ybor
city,
and
that
is
a
standard
that
is
page
two
of
standard
that
is
page
two
of
your
staff,
report.
your
staff
report.
in
that
station,.
Your
staff
in
that
station,,
your
staff
said
that
the
particular
--
in.
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
J
A
A
F
John
thompson:,
I
think
we
do.
do..
I
was
going
with
the
flow
th.
I
was
going
with
the
flow
th
there.
there.
ron,
vila:
good
morning,
ron,
vila:
good
morning,,
commissioners,
ron,
vila.
commissioners,
ron
vila.
to
get
you
familiar
with
the
to
get
you
familiar
with
the
request.
request..
It
is
for
a
recommendation,
for
it
is
for
a
recommendation
for
a
comp
plan.
Amendment
from
r-50,
a
comp
plan,
amendment
from
r-50
to
umu-60.,
to
umu-60.
staff,
finds
that
this
is
staff
finds
that
this
is
consistent
with
chapter
27-95.
F
F
K
K
So
on
page
10
of
our
staff
analysis,,
it
says
"building
analysis,,
it
says,
"building
heights
will
be
subject
to
heights,
will
be
subject
to
subject
design
skyline
by
subject
design
skyline
by
architectural
review.
Comm
architectural
review
comm
committee."
committee.".
This
is
incorrect..
This
is
incorrect.
building
heights
are
building
heights
are
established
by
zoning.
K
K
K
K
To
urban
mixed
use,
60.
ron
kind
of
went
over
the
ron
kind
of
went
over
the
surrounding
area,,
but
this
is
surrounding
area,,
but
this
is
kind
of
an
aerial
of
the
kind
of
an
aerial
of
the
subject.
Site.
subject:
site.
you
can
see
it
is
kind
of
on
you
can
see.
It
is
kind
of
on
the
northwest
corner
of
east
the
northwest
corner
of
east
17th
street
and
east
palm
17th
street
and
east
palm
avenue.
K
K
K
Site
under
that
umu-60.
under
the
existing
future
land
under
the
existing
future
land,
use.
use.,
the
site
can
be
considered
for
the
site
can
be
considered
for
59
dwelling
units
or
over
59
dwelling
units
or
over
100,000
square
feet
of
100,000
square
feet
of
nonresidential.
Development.-
nonresidential-
development.-
as
proposed,
this
site
can
be
as
proposed,.
This
site
can
be
considered
for
81
dwelling
considered
for
81
dwelling
units
or
190,000
square
feet
of.
K
Units
or
190,000
square
feet
of
nonresidential
development.-
nonresidential-
development.-
this
request
will
allow
greater
this
request
will
allow
greater
density
and
commercial
density
and
commercial
intensity
on
the
site.
intensity.
On
the
site.,
the
planning
commission,
the
planning
commission
reviewed
the
request
and
found
reviewed
the
request
and
found
it
consistent
with
the
number
it
consistent
with
the
number
of
objectives
and
policies
of
of
objectives
and
policies
of
the
tampa
comprehensive
plan,.
K
city
planning,
strategy.
development
and
urban
villages,
development
and
urban
villages,
and
was
consistent
with
the
and
was
consistent
with
the
housing
and
neighborhood
housing
and
neighborhood
policies
in
the
plan.
policies
in
the
plan.
based
on
those
considerations,
based
on
those
considerations,,
the
planning
commission
staff,
the
planning
commission
staff,
found
the
request
consistent
found
the
request
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
imagine
2040.
F
John
thompson:
thank
you.
ron
vila:
to
continue
with
ron
vila:
to
continue
with
the
presentation,
to
move
the
presentation,
to
move
forward
with
the
favorable
forward
with
the
favorable
recommendation
modification
to
recommendation
modification
to
page
10
that
--
on
the
report
page
10.
That
--
on
the
report
presented
to
us
by
the
planning
presented
to
us
by
the
planning
commission
states
that
the
commission
states
that
the
architectural
review
commission
architectural
review
commission
has
the
--
is
the
governing.
F
A
And
said
it
was
consistent
with
their
planning
commission,
as
their
planning
commission,
as
well.
well.
mary
samaniego
is
here
to
mary
samaniego
is
here
to
answer
any
questions.
answer
any
questions.
at
this
time,.
You
can
move
at
this
time,.
You
can
move
forward.
forward.
john
thompson:.
We
have
the
john
thompson:.
We
have
the
opportunity
for
public
comment
opportunity
for
public
comment.
If
anybody
is
here
to
speak
for,
if
anybody
is
here
to
speak
for
or
against
this
proposed
ch
or
against
this
proposed
ch
change.
change.
seeing
none,,
we
can
now
ask
seeing
none,.
E
G
G
with
this
land
use?
Change?
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
this
camaria
pettis-mackle:?
This
is
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
is
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
legal
department.,
the
legal
department..
The
important
thing
is
for
the
the
important
thing
is
for
the
commissioners
to
focus
not
on
commissioners
to
focus
not
on
the
development
or
what
is
the
development
or
what
is
going
to
happen
with
the
going
to
happen
with
the
project
but
rater
on
whether
project
but
rater
on
whether
or
not
the
recommendation
is
or
not.
J
A
list
of
enumerated
uses
of
the
zoning
chapter
27.
the
zoning
chapter
27.,
whatever
the
particular
use,
whatever
the
particular
use
that
relates
to
parking.-
that
relates
to
parking..
So,
as
I
mentioned
here
again,,
so
as
I
mentioned
here,
again,
you
shouldn't
place
any
you
shouldn't
place
any
reliance
on
any
representation
reliance
on
any
representation.
J
I
am
making,,
but
I
will
just
I
am
making,,
but
I
will
just
tell
you
for
what
it
is
worth
tell
you
for
what
it
is
worth,
actually
that
we
intend
to
do
actually
that
we
intend
to
do
apartments
and
whatever
the
apartments
and
whatever
the
code
requirements
are
for
code
requirements
are
for
apartments.
apartments..
That
is
what
we
are
going
to.
J
D
A
A
J
The
max
residential
unit
max
square
footage
of
any
square
footage
of
any
development
on
there?
development
on
there?
yeah,.
The
way
the
comp
plan
yeah,
the
way
the
comp
plan
reads
and
danny
can
weigh
in
on
reads
and
danny
can
weigh
in
on
this
if
necessary,,
but
because
this,
if
necessary,,
but
because
it
is
a
mixed
use,
district,
the
it
is
a
mixed
use.
District,
the
developer,
has
the
option
of
developer
has
the
option
of
either
the
density
or
the
floor
either
the
density
or
the
floor
area
ratio,?
J
A
A
A
A
C
A
A
A
A
H
H
H
I
think
I
am
talking
it
through.
through.
could
be
both
--
if
it
comes
could
be
both
--.
If
it
comes
out
good,
it
is
the
live
out
good.
It
is
the
live
recommendation.
recommendation.,
so
I
am
doing
the
one
down
here.
So
I
am
doing
the
one
down
here.
Recommendation
to
city
council.-
recommendation
to
city
council.-
and
I
move
that
we
recommend-
and
I
move
that
we
recommend
that
we
approve
and
recommend
that
we
approve
and
recommend
to
city
council,
that
city
to
city
council,
that
city
council
approve
the
blc
20-111.
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--,
the
warren
building.
and
also,,
it
is
important
to
and
also,.
It
is
important
to
note
that
in
--
during
--,
in
note
that
in
--
during
--
in
the
course
of
time,,
the
three
the
course
of
time,
the
three
buildings
no
longer
really
buildings,
no
longer
really
stood
by
themselves.
Internally,
stood
by
themselves
internally,,
but
were
conjoined
internally,.
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Constructed
in
about
1930
as
well.
well.,
so
they
were,
again,
conjoined.,
so
they
were,
again,
conjoined.
and
you
will
see
--.
I
am
and
you
will
see
--
I
am
showing
you
the
google
map
so
showing
you
the
google
map.
So
you
can
see
that
indeed
they
you
can
see
that
indeed
they
represented
three
different
represented
three
different
buildings
and
then
surrounded.
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The
west
bay
of
the
las
novidadez.
novidadez.
we
are
moving
to
the
center
of
we
are
moving
to
the
center
of
the
historic
complex.
Looking
the
historic,
complex,
looking
south
toward
the
front
south
toward
the
front
elevation
of
the
building
and,
elevation
of
the
building,
and,
again,,
you
can
see
the
finishes
again,
you
can
see.
The
finishes
are
basically
no
longer.
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structure..
This
is
the
warren
building.
This
is
the
warren
building,
dining
room.
Looking
north,
and
dining
room
looking
north,
and
you
will
--
and
there
are
--,
you
will
--
and
there
are
--
and
you
will
see
something
and
you
will
see
something
discussing
those
a
little
bit
discussing
those
a
little
bit.
Later.
later.,
the
go
ya.
Murals
are
part
--.
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Hotel
called
the
hotel
hya.
the
warren
building.
Will
the
warren
building
will
include
a
prefunction
area,
include
a
prefunction
area,
meeting,
rooms,
kitchen,
and
the
meeting
rooms,
kitchen,
and
the
center
bay
will
become
a
center
bay
will
become
a
ballroom.
ballroom.
and
the
easternmost
bay
at
the.
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And
the
easternmost
bay
at
the
corner
of
15th
and
7th
avenue
corner
of
15th
and
7th
avenue
will
be
finished
as
a
vanilla
will
be
finished
as
a
vanilla,
shell.
shell.
may
be,
a
rental
space,
tenant
may
be
a
rental
space,,
tenant,
space,
or
maybe
a
space
to
space,,
or
maybe
a
space
to
support
the
functions
of
the
support.
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the
corner
building.
the
center
bay
was
open
with
the
center
bay,
was
open
with
basically
a
two-story
base
and
basically
a
two-story
base
and
did
not
have
a
floor.
did
not
have
a
floor.
when
the
construction
started,
when
the
construction
started,,
it
will
continue
to
be
one.
It
will
continue
to
be
one
large,
open,
space.,
large,
open,
space.
and
then
the
--
this
space
and
then
the
--.
This
space
called
unoccupied
is
--,
was
and.
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Egyptian
wallboard
walls
painted
white.
painted
white.
and
the
floor
will
be
polished
and
the
floor
will
be
polished,
concrete.
concrete.,
moving
toward
the
middle
of
the
moving
toward
the
middle
of
the
building,.
This
space
will
be
building,.
This
space
will
be
exposed
brick
along
the
front,
exposed
brick
along
the
front.
Facade.
facade.,
that
is
the
current
condition.
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retained
and
preserved.
moving
to
the
second
level
of
moving
to
the
second
level
of
the
proposed
work,,
the
corner,
the
proposed
work,,
the
corner
building,,
the
egyptian
w
building,,
the
egyptian
w
wallboard.
wallboard.,
unfinished
floors.,
unfinished
floors.
wood
floors
for
now.
wood
floors
for
now.
those
would
be
wood..
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Cleaned
and
painted
white.,
they
are
tur,
aren'tly
painted..
They
are
tur,
aren'tly,
painted.,
a
combination
of
white
and
blue,
a
combination
of
white
and
blue
ad,
some
of
it
--.
It
is
a
ad
some
of
it
--.
It
is
a
hodgepodge
currently
in
that
hodgepodge
currently
in
that
area
and
that
will
be
painted.
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Brick
would
be
patched
and
the
boards
repaired
and
the
wood
boards
repaired
and
the
wood
headers,
which
are
visible,
headers,
which
are
visible,
currently
will
be
cleaned
and
currently
will
be
cleaned
and
repaired.
repaired..
So
that
is
level
two.,
so
that
is
level
two.
above
that,
level,
three,
above
that,
level,
three,
additional
junior
suites,
which.
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The
interior
for
rehabi
rehabilitation.
rehabilitation.
stephanie,
provided
a
thorough
stephanie,
provided
a
thorough
presentation
showing
the
whole
presentation
showing
the
whole
block
and
the
exterior
of
the
block
and
the
exterior
of
the
building
had
come
forward
to
building,
had
come
forward
to
this
board
for
approval.
But.
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Part
of
the
ad
valorem.
two
years
ago
for
the
exterior
two
years
ago,
for
the
exterior
is
consistent
with
what
is
is
consistent
with
what
is
being
built,
now.
being
built
now.,
you
should
focus
on
the
you
should
focus
on
the
interior..
Interior.
showed
floorplans
and
finishes,
showed
floorplans
and
finishes
that
are
there
for
the
adaptive
that
are
there
for
the
adaptive
reuse.
reuse..
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It
is
very
difficult
for
it
is
very
difficult
for
buildings
that
over
100
years,
buildings
that
over
100
years
old
to
maintain
any
of
the
old
to
maintain
any
of
the
historic
fabric.
So
they
looked
historic
fabric,
so
they
looked
at
what
they
were
left
with
and
at
what
they
were
left
with
and
moving
forward.
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Look
at
the
information
that
was
there
as
they
uncovered
was
there,
as
they
uncovered
some
of
the
historic
fabric.,
some
of
the
historic
fabric.
on
the
interior.
What
we
focused
on
the
interior,
what
we
focused
on
was
the
volume
that
should
on
was
the
volume
that
should
be
respected.,
be
respected..
The
murals,,
some
of
the
the
murals,,
some
of
the
historic
fabric
that
was
left
historic
fabric
that
was
left
behind.
behind.,
the
wainscoting
that
was
there,.
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The
wainscoting
that
was
there,
the
floor,
finishes,
the
wall,
the
floor,
finishes,
the
wall
finishes,
some
will
have
finishes,.
Some
will
have
drywall
on
them.
drywall
on
them..
Some
will
be
expressed
with
the
some
will
be
expressed
with
the
brick
as
they
were
tradi
brick
as
they
were
tradi
traditionally.
traditionally..
We
did
some
research
on-site
to.
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Tool
that
is
a
elected
process
that
the
owners
and
the
agents
that
the
owners
and
the
agents
do
not
have
to
engage
in,
but
do
not
have
to
engage
in,,
but
there
is
a
benefit.
If
you
move,
there
is
a
benefit
if
you
move
forward
with
the
sense
tivlt
on
forward
with
the
sense
tivlt
on
the
exterior
and
the
interior,
the
exterior
and
the
interior
for
a
ten-year
savings
on
the
for
a
ten-year
savings
on
the
program.
A
Sensitivity
on
the
exterior
and
the
interior.,
the
interior.,
I'm
here
to
answer
any
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
questions.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
john
thompson:
thanks,
ron.
john
thompson:
thanks,
ron..
We
have
the
opportunity,
for
we
have
the
opportunity
for
public
comment.
If
anybody
is
public
comment,
if
anybody
is
here
to
speak
for
or
against.
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Long
history,
before
--
--
before
I
most
recently
joined
before
I
most
recently
joined
the
board.,
the
board..
I
guess
it
is
much
more
of
a.
I
guess
it
is
much
more
of
a
comment,
and
it
looks
like
at
comment,,
and
it
looks
like
at
this
point.
It
may
be
too
late,
this
point.
It
may
be
too
late,,
but
what
--?
I
am
thrilled
that.
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But
what
--?
I
am
thrilled
that
both
of
these
iconic
buildings,
both
of
these
iconic
buildings,
are
being
restored
and
are
being
restored
and
preserved
to
the
extent
that
preserved
to
the
extent
that
they
are
and
most
importantly,
they
are
and
most
importantly,
brought
back
into
almost
full
brought
back
into
almost
full
block
context
of
an
active
block
context
of
an
active
commercial
project.
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Don't
know,
as
a
--
as
the
most
defining
characteristic
defining
characteristic
interior
feature
of
this
interior
feature
of
this
historic
building,.
I
guess
I
am
historic
building,.
I
guess
I
am
just
expressing
a
just
expressing
a
disappointment
that
the
project
disappointment
that
the
project
went
this
far
without,.
You
went
this
far
without,
you
know,,
taking
that
into
account.
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Know,
taking
that
into
account.,
and
if
you
would
like
to
and
if
you
would
like
to
comment
on
the
constraints,
--
comment
on
the
constraints
--
to
thebest
of
my
to
thebest
of
my
understanding,,
they
are
understanding,.
They
are
basically
being
preserved
where
basically
being
preserved
where
they
were.
they
were..
They
are
remaining
as
they
are.
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--,
obviously,
some
sort
of
discussion
and
interpretation,
discussion
and
interpretation
of
them
as
part
of
the
project.
of
them
as
part
of
the
project..
It
just
seems
like
with
not
it
just
seems
like
with
not
much
altercation
of
what
would
much
altercation
of
what
would
have
been
possible
to
keep
them
have
been
possible
to
keep
them
in
a
central
space
where
they.
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L
over
there?
yes.
yes.?
Basically,
that
is
--
the
warren.
Basically,
that
is
--
the
warren
building
is
on
the
left.
building
is
on
the
left.
margie,.
If
you
can
point
to
margie,,
if
you
can
point
to
that.
that.
and
then
the
--,
what
we
know
of
and
then
the
--,
what
we
know
of
as
the
iconic
las
novedades,.
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A
very
popular
and
well
well-loved
restaurant
in
ybor.
well-loved
restaurant
in
ybor.-
that
is
the
future
use
of
that
is
the
future
use
of
the
ballroom..
The
ballroom.
the
ballroom
will
be
part
of
the
ballroom
will
be
part
of
the
hotel,
correct?,
the
hotel,
correct?,
but
the
future
use,
you
are,
but
the
future
use,
you
are
allowing
for
commercial.
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The
owners
haven't
decided
how
to
utilize
that
space.,
how
to
utilize
that
space..
So
they
may
use
it
as
--
in
so
they
may
use
it
as
--
in
support
--
for
additional
support
--
for
additional
meeting
rooms
for
the
hotel,
meeting
rooms
for
the
hotel,.
Just
at
this
point,.
They
are
just
at
this
point,.
They
are
finishing
it
so
that
--,
so
that
finishing
it
so
that
--,
so
that
it
can
be
used
for
that,,
but
it
it
can
be
used
for
that,,
but
it
is
possible
that
there
could
be.
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Is
possible
that
there
could
be
a
tenant
that
would
be
in
a
tenant
that
would
be
in
support
of
the
function.
support
of
the
function.
and
the
main
entrance
to
the
and
the
main
entrance
to
the
hotel.
Just
to
make
sure
I
am
hotel
just
to
make
sure
I
am
following
the
diagrams
that
you,
following
the
diagrams
that
you
are
showing.,
are
showing.
the
main
entrance
to
the
hotel.
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A
A
Of
the
disjointed
nature
of
the
murals.
murals.
so
glad
they
are
being
kept
and
so
glad
they
are
being
kept
and
the
way
it
is
rendered
or
the
the
way
it
is
rendered
or
the
way
that
we
see
it,.
If
we
have
way
that
we
see
it,,
if
we
have
the
raw
brick
and
nice
new,
the
raw,
brick
and
nice
new
finishes,
you
will
be
able
to
finishes.
You
will
be
able
to
put
that
in
your
mind,
better
put
that
in
your
mind
better
what
it
would
have
been
like
in.
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A
A
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A
C
A
A
We
really
appreciate
it..
I
do
understand
it
is
a
I
do
understand.
It
is
a
challenge
on
these
particular
challenge
on
these
particular
buildings
that
there
isn't
buildings
that
there
isn't
thatch
left
of
them
on
the
thatch
left
of
them
on
the
inside,,
but
it
will
be
nice
to
inside,,
but
it
will
be
nice
to
have
them,
you
know,
refreshed,
have
them,
you
know,,
refreshed
and
rebooted
in
part
of
the
and
rebooted
in
part
of
the
community
again,,
and
I
think.
A
B
Located
at
1420
and
1430
east
7th
avenue
in
the
ybor
city,
7th
avenue
in
the
ybor
city,
historic
district
for
the
historic
district
for
the
rehabilitation
of
this
property
rehabilitation
of
this
property,
because,
based
on
the
facts
in
because
based
on
the
facts
in
the
record,,
the
proposed
the
record,.
The
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
project
is
consistent
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
secretary
of
interior
standards
for
rehabilitation
and.
A
E
F
F
today
in
2013.,
and
I
will
show
you
some
and
I
will
show
you
some
information
on
that.
information
on
that.,
the
current
zoning,
where
it,
the
current
zoning,
where
it
sits
today
is
yc-2.,
sits
today
is
yc-2..
They
are
coming
in
for
a
they
are
coming
in,
for
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
an
accessory
structure.
Once.
F
For
an
accessory
structure
once
again,,
starting
with
the
san
again,,
starting
with
the
san
born
map,,
this
is
currently
born
map,.
This
is
currently
where
the
structure
--
the
where
the
structure
--
the
primary
structure
sits.
Today
primary
structure
sits
today
and
the
erection
of
the
and
the
erection
of
the
accessory
structure.
F
accessory
structure..
There
is
an
alley
that
runs.
There
is
an
alley
that
runs
north
and
south
to
the
rear
of
north
and
south
to
the
rear
of
the
subject.
Site.
the
subject:
site.
the
subject
site
sits
on
the
the
subject:
site,
sits
on
the
corner
of
11th
avenue
and
11th
corner
of
11th
avenue
and
11th
street.
F
F
F
F
F
F
There
was
some
historic
fabric
here
that
burnt.
here
that
burnt..
That
is
why
we
have
the
vacant.
That
is
why
we
have
the
vacant
parcel
that
adults,
the
rec
parcel
that
adults,
the
rec
receiving
site.
receiving
site.
once
again,
11th
avenue,
11th,
once
again,
11th
avenue,,
11th,
street.,
street.,
corner
parcel.,
corner
parcel.,
the
noncontributing
structure,
the
noncontributing
structure
that
was
built
on
12th
avenue.
F
It
faces
11th
street..
This
is
the
side
elevation.
This
is
the
side
elevation,
which
is
the
south
elevation,,
which
is
the
south
elevation,,
which
the
accessory
structure,
which
the
accessory
structure
is
going
to
pick
up.
Some
of
is
going
to
pick
up
some
of
this
fabric..
This
fabric.-
and
this
is
the
north
elevation.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
And
directly
across
the
street,
you
have
another
contributing
you
have
another
contributing
structure
with
some
vacant
structure
with
some
vacant
land,,
and
that
concludes
the
land,.
And
that
concludes
the
photo
presentation
at
this
t
photo
presentation
at
this
t,
time.
time.,
miss
pic
k
will
address.
The
miss
pic
k
will
address
the
board.
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
A
wood
railing
which
would
be
a
simple
2
x,
2
railing
on
there.,
simple
2
x,
2
railing
on
there.
exposed,
rafter
tails
with
exposed
rafter
tails
with
two-foot
overhangs.,
two-foot,
overhangs.
french
doors
on
the
second
french
doors
on
the
second
floor
level
and
a
mission-style
floor
level
and
a
mission-style
door
on
first
floor.
I
I
I
I
too
small
windows..
They
are
small
because
there
is.
They
are
small
because
there
is
a
bathroom
and
a
kitchen
in
a
bathroom
and
a
kitchen
in
that
elevation,
and
it
does
face
that
elevation
and
it
does
face
an
alley.,
an
alley..
Some
of
the
things
that
you,
some
of
the
things
that
you
didn't
see
on
front
elevation.
I
didn't
see
on
front
elevation..
We
would
have
the
water
table,
we
would
have
the
water
table
across
there.
across
there.
and
on
the
back,
elevation,
we
and
on
the
back
elevation,
we
are
just
going
to
do.
A
fake
are
just
going
to
do
a
fake
vent
just
to
kind
of
bring
down
vent,
just
to
kind
of
bring
down
elevation
a
little
bit
because
elevation
a
little
bit
because
it
is
a
little
bit
of
a
blank.
I
I
I
I
I
I
Sheathing.
this
is
--.
I
am
going
to
show
this
is
--.
I
am
going
to
show
some
examples
of
things.
We
can
some
examples
of
things
we
can
built
in
the
past
to
see
the
built
in
the
past
to
see
the
general
details.
general
details..
These
are
the
garage
doors
that
these
are
the
garage
doors
that
we
typically
use..
I
I
I
I
I
The
fly
wood
shutters.
just
the
details,
so
you
can
see
just
the
details,
so
you
can
see
the
eaves.,
the
eaves.,
the
board
sheathing
on
the
the
board
sheathing
on
the
project,
and
the
water
table
project,
and
the
water
table
with
the
drip
page,
which
is
with
the
drip
page,
which
is
typical
on
two-story
buildings..
I
I
I
I
I
garage
doors
that
we
use..
Let's
see.,
let's
see.
the
only
other
element,
and
this
the
only
other
element-
and
this
is
still
something
in-
is
still
something
in
discussion
with
the
homeowner
discussion
with
the
homeowner
but
the
most
likely
lighting,
but
the
most
likely
lighting
fixtures
will
be
along.
That
fixtures
will
be
along
that
line
and
all
the
hardware
will.
F
F
F
Anne
hit
a
couple
of
those
and
a
couple
outstanding.
a
couple:
outstanding.,
the
first,
the
scoring
on
the
the
first,
the
scoring
on
the
material
on
apron
coming
off
material
on
apron
coming
off
the
alley.,
the
alley..
What
is
that
apron
and
then
what
is
that
apron
and
then
traditional
scoring
should
be
traditional
scoring,
should
be
considered.
considered.,
the
location
of
the
mechanical,
the
location
of
the
mechanical
units
on
the
second
floor.
F
Units
on
the
second
floor.
the
owner
did
come
forward
with
the
owner
did
come
forward
with
a
design
exception
to
allow
the
a
design
exception
to
allow
the
structure
to
go
to
22
and
a
structure
to
go
to
22
and
a
half
feet
in
the
historic
half
feet
in
the
historic
districts.
districts..
That
is
a
conversation
that
that
is
a
conversation
that
happens
between
the
zoning
happens
between
the
zoning
department
and
the
preservation
department
and
the
preservation
department.
department..
I
believe
that
she
did
receive.
F
F
F
She
had
talked
about
the
wi
windows
that
were
a
little
bit
windows
that
were
a
little
bit
smaller
nature
because
of
the
smaller
nature
because
of
the
interior
spaces,,
but
maybe
the
interior
spaces,.
But
maybe
the
introduction
of
an
additional
introduction
of
an
additional
band
board
to
define
the
gable.
F
F
Forward,
two
final
comments.:
she
talked
about
the
difference.
She
talked
about
the
difference
in
windows
if
they
are
going
to
in
windows,
if
they
are
going
to
get
a
rated
window
or
introduce
get
a
rated
window
or
introduce
the
shutters.,
the
shutters.,
I
believe,
if
introduced
the,
I
believe,
if
introduced,
the
shutter
also
have
grommets
and.
A
A
B
B
B
B
B
Also,,
I
think
that
the
stair
position.
position.,
you
see
the
understayed
of
the
you
see
the
understayed
of
the
stare
from
the
front,
--,
the
stare
from
the
front,
--,
the
stair
from
the
front.
stair
from
the
front..
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
turn
a
around
and
the
stairs
turn
a
around
and
the
stairs
going
up
where
the
burdens
are
going
up,
where
the
burdens
are
going
to
build
their
nests
and
going
to
build
their
nests
and
the
bicycles
are
going
to
go.
B
B
I
I
I
I
B
E
D
D
D
D
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Needed
to
really
--,
I
don't
know,
use
as
much
detail
on
know,
use
as
much
detail
on
back
on
this
particular
one,
back
on
this
particular
one,.
But
I
do
think
if
we
were
to
do,
but
I
do
think
if
we
were
to
do
a
band,,
would
you
have
band,
a
band,?
Would
you
have
band,
band,
and
then
gable,,
vent.,
band,
and
then
gable,
vent.?
I
think
it
would
be
too
much..
I
D
--,
when
you
put
the
band
in
and
don't
change
materials
in
the
don't
change
materials
in
the
gable,,
it
kind
of
bothers
me
gable,.
It
kind
of
bothers
me,
architecturally.
architecturally.,
I
see
what
you
are
saying.
I
see
what
you
are
saying
with
the
main
house.
with
the
main
house..
So
some
of
the
examples
that
so
some
of
the
examples
that
you
showed
us,
were
those
--
you
showed
us,
were
those
--.
Were
those
vents
faux
as
well?
I
A
A
I
don't
have
any
questions.
john
thompson:
okay,.
I
have
john
thompson:
okay,.
I
have
a
question
--.
Actually
here
a
question
--
actually
here,
since
we
are
on
this,
since
we
are
on
this
conversation,
with
you
move
conversation,
with
you
move
this
--
the
rear
elevation
over
this
--,
the
rear
elevation
over
a
little
bit
and
then
put
the
a
little
bit
and
then
put
the
front
elevation
side
by
side,
front
elevation
side
by
side
with
it?
A
A
A
I
A
Is
that
that
staff
is
looked
at?
at?,
something
that
I
have
to
something
that
I
have
to
talk
to
ron
after
this
meeting
talk
to
ron
after
this
meeting
about.
about.
okay.
okay.,
because
I
think
--.
I
think
that,
because
I
think
--,
I
think
that
--
whatever
we
are
doing
up,
--
whatever
we
are
doing
up
front
proportionize
and
if
we
front
proportionize
and
if
we
solve
the
stair
issue
with
the
solve
the
stair
issue,
with
the
lattice
work
and
all
that
stuff,
lattice
work
and
all
that
stuff
doesn't
matter.
I
A
I
I
A
A
A
A
It
like
that.
ballaster
that
you
have
there
a
ballaster
that
you
have
there
a
six-foot-tall
one,
that
you
can
six-foot-tall,
one,
that
you
can
have
security
and
privacy
and
have
security
and
privacy
and
maybe
put
some
jasmine
on
it,
maybe
put
some
jasmine
on
it
and
we
can
still
see
through
and
we
can
still
see
through
and
into
the
house
itself
to
and
into
the
house
itself.
To
talk
about
any
of
these
details.
A
A
A
A
line
a
little
bit..
I
know
you
can
scoot
it
down.
I
know
you
can
scoot
it
down
two
inches
and
accommodate
it.
Two
inches
and
accommodate
it
on
the
site.
on
the
site.
and
one
of
the
things
that
and
one
of
the
things
that
transportation
will
have
to
do,
transportation
will
have
to
do
is
have
it
on
the
site.
A
A
Take
the
site
plan
off,.
You
can
see
that
some
of
the
--
on
the
see
that
some
of
the
--
on
the
corners
of
the
house
or
the
corners
of
the
house
or
the
corners
of
the
porch,
you
have
corners
of
the
porch,.
You
have
these
base
conditions
where
the
these
base
conditions,
where
the
columns
will
land
and
the
--
columns
will
land
and
the
--
the
bases
for
the
columns
will.
A
A
A
A
I
A
C
mtion.
as
part
of
the
comments,
I
as
part
of
the
comments,,
I
would
agree
of
some
of
what
we
would
agree
of
some
of
what
we
have
discussed.
have
discussed..
So
I
am
wonder
going
the
so
I
am
wonder,
going
the
solution
for
the
rear
side
of
solution
for
the
rear
side
of
the
accessory
structure.
Instead,
the
accessory
structure,
instead
of
adding
a
band
board
and
of
adding
a
band
board
and
getting
rid
of
the
faux
vent
as
getting
rid
of
the
faux
vent
as
shown,.
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
You
have
an
air
conditioning
unit
toward
the
rear
of
the
unit
toward
the
rear
of
the
existing
structure.
existing
structure..
But
you
are
saying
you
are,
but
you
are
saying
you
are
putting
the
unit
for
the
putting
the
unit
for
the
accessory
structure
underneath
accessory
structure
underneath
the
new
staircase.,
the
new
staircase..
Then
I
think
on
the
site.
C
C
C
G
C
staff
or
the
air
conditioner??
We
were
presented
with
a
we
were
presented
with
a
site
plan
that
doesn't
seem
to
site
plan
that
doesn't
seem
to
be
adequate
and
would
like
be
adequate
and
would
like
clarification
where
the
new
one
clarification
where
the
new
one
will
go
and
if
it
will
be
will
go
and
if
it
will
be
shielded
from
public
view
and
shielded
from
public
view
and
appears
to
be
at
least
two
or.
G
Maybe
three
that
are
existing
but
aren't
shielded
with
public,
but
aren't
shielded
with
public
view,
which
will
normally
be
a
view
which
will
normally
be
a
requirement.
requirement..
You
are
asking
two
or
three
you
are
asking
two
or
three
air
conditioners
that
are
--
air
conditioners
that
are
--
are
the
two
--
that
the
two
can
are
the
two
--
that
the
two
can
observe
on
the
already
existing
observe
on
the
already
existing
property?
property?.
But
that
is
not
in
front
of
the,
but
that
is
not
in
front
of
the
commission
for
consideration.
G
G
A
G
G
C
G
Then
we
just
have
to
make
sure
in
the
motion
we
say
any
fence
in
the
motion.
We
say
any
fence
still
needs
to
be:
approved?
still
needs
to
be
approved?,
camaria
pettis-mackle:
that
camaria
pettis-mackle:.
That
could
be
a
way
to
address.
It
could
be
a
way
to
address
it,
since
it
is
in
the
site
plan,,
since
it
is
in
the
site,
plan,
the
fence,,
and
it
is
already
on
the
fence,,
and
it
is
already
on
the
record,,
the
fence.,
the
record,,
the
fence.
but,
again,,
that
part
of
--.
C
C
Fence
as
a
condition
that
it
--
you
know.,
you
know.,
I
under
stand.,
I
under
stand.,
thanks
for
the
clarification.
thanks
for
the
clarification..
I
agree
that
you
have
an.
I
agree
that
you
have
an
opportunity
if
you
are
going
to
opportunity,
if
you
are
going
to
introduce
a
fence
across
this,
introduce
a
fence
across
this
kind
of
unique
configuration.
C
C
Kind
of
--
decorative
door
that
relates
to
the
accessory
and
relates
to
the
accessory
and
creates
--
someone
walking
by
creates
--
someone
walking
by
the
street
can
kind
of
be
the
street
can
kind
of
be
intrigued.
What
is
behind
the
intrigued?
What
is
behind
the
fence
in
an
architectural
way
fence
in
an
architectural
way,
as
opposed
to
just
all
the,
as
opposed
to
just
all
the
across
the
side,
and
that
can
be
across
the
side
and
that
can
be
discussed
with
staff
from
a
discussed
with
staff
from
a
future
date,
since
it
is
not.
A
A
A
Applicant
coming
forward
with
an
architectural
solution
with
an
architectural
solution
with
scale
and
massing.
scale
and
massing.
and
they
are
proposing
to
and
they
are
proposing
to
conceal,
that
with
a
fence
all
conceal
that
with
a
fence
all
in
the
application.
in
the
application..
It
is
part
of
the
record.,
it
is
part
of
the
record..
So
I
think
that
is
part
of
the.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
--,
the
--,
the
staff.,
and
if
that
is
what
you
would
and
if
that
is
what
you
would
luke
to
do.
luke
to
do.,
but
--
and
additionally,
you,
but
--
and
additionally,
you
know,.
There
are
other
know,.
There
are
other
departments
within
the
city
departments
within
the
city
that
also
controls.
What
happens
that
also
controls
what
happens
with
the
fins.
with
the
fins.,
and
that
is
a
zoning
issue.
G
And
that
is
a
zoning
issue.,
so
--,
so
just
focus
--
begin,,
I
so
--,
so
just
focus
--
begin,.
I
would
encourage
the
would
encourage
the
commissioners
to
focus
on
the
commissioners
to
focus
on
the
applications
that
are
before
applications
that
are
before
the
board.,
the
board.
and
that
those
considerations
and
that
those
considerations
for
the
fence
is
left
up
to.
A
For
the
fence
is
left
up
to
staff
and
to
the
zoning
staff
and
to
the
zoning
department.
department.
john
thompson:.
I
mean,
that
john
thompson:,
I
mean,.
That
is
one
way
to
approach.
It.
is
one
way
to
approach.
It..
Another
way
could
be
--
just
to
another
way
could
be
--
just
to
make
sure
that
the
commission
make
sure
that
the
commission
still
has
--.
If
we
wanted
to
still
has
--.
If
we
wanted
to
see
it,,
we
could
see
it
again.
A
G
G
I
would
--
again,
mr.
chair.
fence
or
whether
you
are
fence
or
whether
you
are
talking
about
the
materials,
talking
about
the
materials,,
the
height,
or
any
condition
of
the
height,
or
any
condition
of
the
fence,.
That
is
not
within
the
fence,.
That
is
not
within
your
purview,.
It
is
within
the
your
purview,.
It
is
within
the
purview
of
the
zoning
purview
of
the
zoning
department
and
staff
to.
A
A
A
A
It
to
us
that
we
have
often
seen
solutions
for
fences
when
seen
solutions
for
fences
when
they
are
on
the
road..
They
are
on
the
road..
We
have
seen
historic.
We
have
seen
historic
reinterpretations
of
what
would
reinterpretations
of
what
would
have
been
a
pedestrian
have
been
a
pedestrian
experience
in
the
fence.
A
experience
in
the
fence..
These
things
do
come
before
us..
These
things
do
come
before:
us.
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
right,,
right.,
right,
right..
In
terms
of
what
I
have
seen
in
terms
of
what
I
have
seen
on
the
site,
plan,,
that
is
the
on
the
site.
Plan,,
that
is
the
biggest
challenge,
is
what
is
biggest
challenge
is
what
is
that
thing
going
to
be.
A
A
A
A
A
Camaria
pettis-mackle:
of
the
overall
project?,
the
overall
project?
john
thompson:
of
the
john
thompson:
of
the
applicant's
project.
applicant's
project.,
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
camaria
pettis-mackle:.
That's
what
--
okay.!
That's
what
--
okay.
john
thompson:.
I
think
we
do
john
thompson:.
I
think
we
do
have
--.
We
do
have
more
than
have
--.
We
do
have
more
than
one
option.
one
option.
and
we
do
have
the
ability
to.
A
A
B
C
C
C
E
A
Fence.,
john
thompson:,
we
don't
want
john
thompson:.
We
don't
want
to
make
it
burdensome,
but
--
to
make
it
burdensome,
but
--
the
way
it
is
presented
in
the
the
way
it
is
presented
in
the
record,.
If
we
were
to
condition
record,.
If
we
were
to
condition
everything
and
say
that
looks
everything
and
say
that
looks
great,,
go,
build
it
and
go
by
to
great,.
Go
build
it
and
go
by
to
look
at
it..
C
C
C
C
Issue
or
photography
issue
because
I
think
--,
because
I
think
--
john
thompson:,
that
will
john
thompson:
that
will
have
to
be
rhetorical
because
have
to
be
rhetorical
because
we
are
closed.,
we
are
closed.,
I
am
sorry.,
I
am
sorry.
did
any
other
commissioner.
Get
did
any
other
commissioner,
get
the
impression
that
the
sizes,
the
impression
that
the
sizes
of
the
--
of
the
trim
seemed.
G
G
G
G
G
A
A
A
The
ability
to
agree
to
any
--
for
conditions
attached
to
it
for
conditions
attached
to
it
for
approval.
for
approval.,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
correct.,
correct.,
john
thompson:,
any
other
john
thompson:,
any
other
discussion?
discussion?.
Or
do
we
have
a
sufficient
or
do
we
have
a
sufficient
clarification?
What
the
motion.
E
C
C
G
H
H
I
don't
agree
that
we
continue
the
project.,
the
project.
I
--.
The
fence
is
not
in
the
I
--.
The
fence
is
not
in
the
purview
of
what
they
are
purview
of
what
they
are
presenting.
Today.
presenting
today..
I
understand
--.
I
hear
what
you
I
understand.
--
I
hear
what
you
are
saying
it
is
on
the
site
are
saying
it
is
on
the
site
plan,
so
they
showed
it
to
us.
H
H
H
Make
our
motion
approving
the
project
with
a
few
conditions
project
with
a
few
conditions
which
is
work
with
the
staff
which
is
work
with
the
staff,
and
I
don't
think
we
should,
and
I
don't
think
we
should
continue.
This
whole
project
continue
this
whole
project
because
of
this
fence..
Because
of
this
fence.,
we
need
to
figure
out
a.
H
We
need
to
figure
out
a
different
way
to
work
it
so
the
different
way
to
work
it
so
the
owner
can
build
their
second
owner,
can
build
their
second
structure
and
move
forward.
structure
and
move
forward..
If
we
want
to
relook
at
the,
if
we
want
to
relook
at
the
fence
later
after
staff
fence
later
after
staff
presents
it
or
does
their
job
presents
it
or
does
their
job
--
not
presents
it,
but
does
--
not
presents
it
but
does
their
job
with
it,,
then
I
think.
G
A
A
A
Have
the
kind
of
the
purview
of
the
fence
since
it
is
in
the
the
fence,
since
it
is
in
the
front
yard.
front
yard.
cam
cambridge
analytica
cam,
cambridge
analytica,
understand.
understand.,
john
thompson:?
We
are
john
thompson:.
We
are
talking
about
the
whole
front,
talking
about
the
whole
front
of
that
one
property
is
going
of
that.
H
H
H
A
G
H
H
H
A
F
F
John
thompson:,
all
in
favor?
aye.
aye.
ron
vila:.
So
this
is
the
ron
vila:.
So
this
is
the
staff
report
that
was
presented
staff
report
that
was
presented
to
us.
to
us.
on
the
application,,
the
request
on
the
application,.
The
request
was
for
new
construction
for
an
was
for
new
construction
for
an
accessory
structure.
accessory
structure.
along
the
way
I
met
with
the
along
the
way
I
met
with
the
owners,
on-site.
F
They
talked
of
erecting
a
fence
to
provide
that
courtyard.
to
provide
that
courtyard..
The
indication
they
provided
on
the
indication
they
provided
on
the
site
plan
has
not
been.
The
site
plan
has
not
been
discussed
with
us,
so
the
discussed
with
us,
so
the
location.
What
was
presented
may
location.
What
was
presented
may
not
be
the
final
location.
not
be
the
final
location..
I
did
see
some
preliminary.
F
is
the
first
time
I
saw
them.,
so
it
is
at
a
preliminary
st,
so
it
is
at
a
preliminary
st
stage.
stage..
So
at
this
time
I
would
move
so
at
this
time.
I
would
move
forward
with
the
review
and
the
forward
with
the
review
and
the
request
for
the
accessory
request
for
the
accessory
structure.
structure..
The
fence
isn't
part
of
this.
F
The
fence
isn't
part
of
this
request.
Right
now.
request
right
now..
I
know
it
say
that's
on
the.
I
know
it
say:
that's
on
the
site,
plan.
site
plan.,
but
you
have
no
drawings
to,
but
you
have
no
drawings
to
indicate
what
the
fence
looks
indicate.
What
the
fence
looks:
like,
the
height
of
the
fence.
A
F
F
a
moo
t
point..
It
is
not
there.,
it
is
not
there.,
they
showed
a
low
dhaition.
Has
they
showed
a
low?
Dhaition
has
not
been
vented.,
not
been
vented.
part
of
your
condition,
moving
part
of
your
condition.
Moving
forward.
forward..
You
want
to
say
to
correct
the
you
want
to
say
to
correct
the
site
plan
to
eliminate
the.
A
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
So
I
would
be
fine
moving
forward
with
ron.
Has
the
forward
with
ron?
Has
the
understanding
that,
based
on
understanding
that,
based
on
this
discussion,
that
perhaps
this
discussion,
that
perhaps
this
is
an
opportunity
for
the
this-
is
an
opportunity
for
the
fence
to
come
before
us
if
a
fence
to
come
before
us?
If
a
fence
is
proposed
for
the.
F
project.
ron.
Vila:
a
fence
is
a
ron.
Vila:,
a
fence
is
a
request
that
can
be
delegated
request
that
can
be
delegated
to
staff
and
the
ordinance
is
to
staff
and
the
ordinance
is
reflected.
reflected..
We
have
eight
or
ten
items
that
we
have
eight
or
ten
items
that
can
be
administratively
can
be
administratively
approved
if
staff
feels
is
not.
F
F
F
Be
a
positive
or
a
negative
to
this
experience.,
this
experience.,
I
know
why
you
are
taking
it.
I
know
why
you
are
taking
it:
seriously.,
seriously.,
front
yard,
fences.,
front
yard,
fences.
only
two
historic
districts,,
only
two
historic
districts,,
four
historic
districts,
one
is
four
historic.
Districts,
one
is
tampa,
heights.
tampa
heights.
one
is
ybor
city.
one
is
ybor,
city.,
usually
the
front
yard
fences,
usually
the
front
yard
fences
are
maintained
at
four
foot
in
are
maintained
at
four
foot
in
height
to
meet
the
zoning
code.
F
F
I
don't
believe
this
is
the
best
scenario
because
sits
on
best
scenario
because
sits
on
the
pedestal
of
the
retaining
the
pedestal
of
the
retaining
wall.
wall..
If
you
have
the
retaining
wall,
if
you
have
the
retaining
wall,
six
foot
and
six-foot-high
six
foot
and
six-foot-high
fence.
fence.,
it
will
be
very
imposing
on
it-
will
be
very
imposing
on
this
site..
B
B
And
we
allow
or
are
agreement
with
the
accessory
structure
with
the
accessory
structure
and
there
is
no
fence
and
there
and
there
is
no
fence
and
there
is
never
going
to
be
a
fence,-
is
never
going
to
be
a
fence,.
Then
we
are
looking
at
--.
We
then
we
are
looking
at
--.
We
are
looking
at
mechanical,.
B
A
A
Actually
we
have
the
public
--.
We
are
open
the
public,,
so
we
we
are
open
the
public,.
So
we
can
ask
questions
to
anybody,
can
ask
questions
to
anybody
and
get
responses
if
anybody
and
get
responses.
If
anybody
wants
any.
wants
any.,
otherwise
we
can
close
the
otherwise.
We
can
close
the
public
portion
of
it
and
find
a
public
portion
of
it
and
find
a
motion.
F
F
A
H
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
Whether
something,
I
think,
--
to
a
better
design.,
a
better
design.,
we
are
not
there
yet..
We
are
not
there
yet.,
so
the
very
likelihood
that
so
the
very
likelihood
that
there
will
be
a
fence.
there
will
be
a
fence..
That
is
something
that
the
that
is
something
that
the
homeowner
would
want,,
but
it
is
homeowner
would
want,,
but
it
is
--
you
we
are
not
at
the
point
--
you.
We
are
not
at
the
point
to
ask
anybody
about
the
fence
to
ask
anybody
about
the
fence.
More
than
very,,
very.
B
B
talk
about
the
fence.
eric
schiller:.
We
have
been
eric
schiller:.
We
have
been
doing
that
way
too
long
in
ybor.
Doing
that
way
too
long
in
ybor,
city.
city.,
if
it
doesn't
say,
put
it
in,,
I
if
it
doesn't
say
put
it
in,,
I
can't
vote
for
it
because
I
am
can't
vote
for
it
because
I
am
not
craze
beth
front
facade
and.
C
C
some
kind
of
gate..
We
vnd
used
the
word
"gate",
but
we
vnd
used
the
word
"gate",
but
an
opportunity
to
not
just
have
an
opportunity
to
not
just
have
a
fence,
but
some
kind
of
gate,
a
fence,
but
some
kind
of
gate
that
aligns
with
the
accessory
that
aligns
with
the
accessory
structure.
That
has
some
kind
of
structure
that
has
some
kind
of
a
view
into
a
garden
fence.
C
C
C
jose
gelats:.
While
we
have
jose
gelats:
while
we
have
the
public
comment,,
can
you
the
public
comment,?
Can
you
react
to
the
comment
I
had
of
react
to
the
comment
I
had
of
the
band
--,
the
boards
around
the
band
--,
the
boards
around
the
windows
and
the
doors,,
the
windows
and
the
doors,
seeming
a
little
underscaled
seeming
a
little
underscaled
based
on
photographs
that
you.
I
A
A
A
Always
ask
legal.,
you
are
on
--,
I
would
say,
you
you
are
on
--.
I
would
say,
you
know,
to
the
applicant,
again,
know,
to
the
applicant,
again,
the
thing
for
the
fence,,
the
the
thing
for
the
fence,,
the
thing.
That
is
the
challenge
thing.
That
is
the
challenge
that
it
is
the
front,.
It
is
the
that
it
is
the
front,.
It
is
the
whole
front
of
the
project.
A
whole
front
of
the
project..
It
is
tied
to
the
building
in
a
it
is
tied
to
the
building.
In
a
way
you
wouldn't
tie
it
to
the
way
you
wouldn't
tie
it
to
the
black.
Like
straight
to
the
black
like
straight
to
the
porch.
porch.,
you
wouldn't
do
that.,
you
wouldn't
do
that..
Would
you
offset
it.?
Would
you
offset
it.
if
it
was
a
formal
application?
A
A
A
I
would
like
to
see
some
transparency
and
tied
to
the
transparency
and
tied
to
the
public
and
a
sense
of
what
you
public
and
a
sense
of
what
you
actually
accomplish.,
actually
accomplish.,
because
I
know
when
you
are
because
I
know
when
you
are
done
with
your
project,,
it
is
done
with
your
project,.
It
is
going
to
be
nice.
going
to
be
nice..
It
is
going
to
add
to
the
it
is
going
to
add
to
the
community.
A
A
A
A
G
A
C
A
G
G
You
want
to
remind
the
commissioners
that,
if
staff
and
commissioners
that
if
staff
and
the
zoning
department
feel
that
the
zoning
department
feel
that
it
is
necessary
to
go
back
in,
it
is
necessary
to
go
back
in
front
of
the
commissioners
to
front
of
the
commissioners
to
address
the
fence,
that
will
address
the
fence,.
That
will
take
place,.
But
it
is
--.
It
is
take
place,,
but
it
is
--.
C
C
C
G
If
the
fence
to
appear
on
the
site,
we
would
have
final
site,
we
would
have
final
approval
on
that.
approval
on
that..
How
would
you
recommend
that
we?
How
would
you
recommend
that
we
do
that?,
do
that?
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
my
camaria
pettis-mackle:?
My
recommendation
is
that
the
recommendation
is
that
the
board
--,
the
commissioners
board
--.
G
If
the
--
the
accessory
structure.
structure.,
if
the
applicant
wants
to
go,
if
the
applicant
wants
to
go
through
the
process
of
the
through
the
process
of
the
fence,,
that
discussion
needs
to
fence,.
That
discussion
needs
to
start
with
the
staff
and
the
start
with
the
staff
and
the
zoning
department
and
proceed.
C
B
C
H
is
that
within
our
purview?,
because
either
way,
aren't
because
either
way,
aren't
we
requesting,
regardless
of
we
requesting,
regardless
of
whether
or
not
it
is
a
fence
or
whether
or
not
it
is
a
fence
or
not.
not..
Aren't
we
requesting
that
the
aren't
we
requesting
that
the
mechanical
and
the
under
the
mechanical
and
the
under
the
stairwell
potential
clutter,
stairwell
potential,
clutter
location,
be
addressed?
H
location,
be
addressed?,
right.
right.,
so
aren't
we
requesting
that?
So?
Aren't
we
requesting
that
something
that
I
thought
I
something
that
I
thought
I
heard
we
wanted.
heard.
We
wanted.
is
that
under
the
stairwell
and
is
that
under
the
stairwell
and
the
mechanical
be
addressed,
the
mechanical
be
addressed
whether
that
is
by
specifically.
A
Lattice
or
installing
a
fence.
either
way
we
want
that
either
way
we
want
that
addressed,
right?,
addressed,,
right?,
john
thompson:.
I
think
you,
john
thompson:,
I
think
you
would
go
back
to
advice
from
would
go
back
to
advice
from
legal
is
that
we
--
the
fence
legal
is
that
we
--
the
fence
--.
We
are
going
to
strike
the
--.
We
are
going
to
strike
the
fence
from
the
applicant's
fence
from
the
applicant's
presentation.
presentation..
We
are
going
to
probably
craft.
B
B
Sorry
I
interrupted
you.
seems
to
me.
The
best
way
to
do
seems
to
me
the
best
way
to
do
this
is
--.
I
don't
know
how
this
is
--.
I
don't
know
how
anybody
else
is
inclined,,
but
anybody
else
is
inclined,,
but
without
the
fence
being
a
without
the
fence
being
a
requirement,,
I
can't
vote
for
requirement,.
I
can't
vote
for
the
project.,
the
project.,
so
we
simply
tell
--
we
make.
B
That
clear,-
and
I
think
maybe
it
is
clear
--
it
is
clear
with
it-
is
clear
--.
It
is
clear
with
this
vote,
but
I
don't
know
this
vote,
but
I
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
them,,
but
at
about
the
rest
of
them,,
but
at
that
point,
you
ask
them.
If
that
point,,
you
ask
them
if
they
will
be
okay
for
a,
they
will
be
okay
for
a
continuance
and
come
back
and
continuance
and
come
back
and
put
the
fence
on
there.
B
C
B
C
In
the
motion,
I
would
imagine.
eric
schiller:
or
just
deny
eric,
schiller:
or
just
deny,
and
they
can
come
back
with
a
and
they
can
come
back
with
a
fence.
fence.,
jose
gelats:.
I
always
prefer
jose
gelats:.
I
always
prefer
to
continue
with
--
with
to
continue
with
--
with
comments
and
recommendations.
B
C
Forward
as
opposed
to
denying
it.
it.
eric
schiller:,
I
am
100%
for
eric
schiller:.
I
am
100%
for
this
project.,
this
project.
jose
gelats:.
I
want
to
be
jose
gelats:.
I
want
to
be
clear
in
a
way
as
a
commission,
clear
in
a
way
as
a
commission,.
It
is
interesting
when
these
it
is
interesting.
When
these
issues
come
up.
C
issues
come
up.,
I
am
sure
to
some
other
people.
I
am
sure
to
some
other
people,
especially
those
listening
at
especially
those
listening
at
home,.
They
are
like,.
Why
is
home,?
They
are
like,.
Why
is
there
so
much
discussion
about
there
so
much
discussion
about
a
fence
that
isn't
even
a
fence
that
isn't
even
technically
proposed.,
technically
proposed.,
but
from
an
architectural,
but
from
an
architectural,
historian
point
of
view,
an.
C
C
It
can
be
a
really
delightful
way
to
wrap
up
a
historic
way
to
wrap
up
a
historic
structure
that
has
been
removed,
structure
that
has
been
removed
and
new
act,
vesry
structure
and
and
new
act,
vesry
structure
and
new
replacement
of
that
in
a
new
replacement
of
that.
In
a
way
that
is
an
asset
to
the
way
that
is
an
asset
to
the
district.
A
Architectural
insertions
that
reinforce
the
notion
of
the
reinforce
the
notion
of
the
street.
street.,
I
want
to
say
that.,
I
want
to
say
that.,
john
thompson:.
I
think
that
john
thompson:,
I
think
that
is
well.
Said.,
is
well
said.
and
I
want
to
put
myself
in
the-
and
I
want
to
put
myself
in
the
place
of
the
applicant
as
well
place
of
the
applicant
as
well
in
that
--
as
she
mentioned,
in
that
--
as
she
mentioned,
you
know,,
she
does
these
--,
you
know,.
She
does
these
--.
These
are
the
type
of
projects.
A
That
her
company
does.
they
do
them
well.,
they
do
them
well..
They
respond
to
comments
that
they
respond
to
comments
that
they
hear
and
now
in
the
11th
they
hear
and
now
in
the
11th
hour,
a
curveball
with
a
fence
hour,
a
curveball
with
a
fence
and
thinking
I
may
not
be
able
and
thinking.
I
may
not
be
able
to
start
the
project
when
I
to
start
the
project
when
I
wanted
to.
wanted
to..
That
is
a
challenge
too..
A
A
A
A
B
B
Let
me
add
one
more
thing.
oftentimes
--.
I
have
been
doing
oftentimes
--.
I
have
been
doing
this
for
a
little
while.
this
for
a
little
while.
oftentimes,.
You
would
ask
the
oftentimes,.
You
would
ask
the
ownership
to
get
up
and
stem
ownership
to
get
up
and
stem
cell
us
what
their
intention
cell
us,
what
their
intention
was,
and
that
--
sometimes,
you
was,,
and
that
--
sometimes,
you
know,
when
they
talk
and
they
know,
when
they
talk
and
they
look
at
you
and
say,
yes,
yes,.
B
G
Their
agent
is
here
and
she
is
not
prepared
to
speak
on
a
not
prepared
to
speak
on
a
fence,
because
she
is
a
shed
fence,
because
she
is
a
shed
builder.
builder.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
camaria
pettis-mackle:
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
legal
department.
legal
department..
She
is
--,
the
agent
is
not.
B
A
Not
to
speak
about
it,
which
is
say
something
or
doesn't
say,
say
something
or
doesn't
say
something
or
whatever.
something
or
whatever.
john
thompson:
make
I
don't
john
thompson:
make
I
don't
understand.
understand..
Maybe
we
get
some
terminology,
maybe
we
get
some
terminology
backwards,
a
bit,,
but
when
--
in
backwards
a
bit,,
but
when
--
in
terms
of
everything
--,
we
talk
terms
of
everything.
--
we
talk
about
the
application,,
we
talk
about
the
application,,
we
talk
about
staff
report,,
we
talk
of
about
staff
report,.
A
G
G
G
G
G
C
C
C
Making
a
motion
to
approve-
and
I
am
going
to
not
mention
the
I
am
going
to
not
mention
the
fence
in
the
motion
nor
fence
in
the
motion,
nor
condition
the
fence,
because
it
condition
the
fence
because
it
is
technically
not
part
of
this-
is
technically
not
part
of
this
proposal.
Although
it
has
been
a
proposal,
although
it
has
been
a
big
part
of
the
discussion.
C
Is
within
the
district
that,
if
a
fence
were
to
be
proposed
for
a
fence
were
to
be
proposed
for
this
site,,
I
think
they
have
this
site,.
I
think
they
have
enough
guidance
as
to
what
we
enough
guidance
as
to
what
we
--,
what
this
unique
condition:
--,
what
this
unique
condition
might
present
for
a
design
of
a.
A
Does
that
make
sense?
john
thompson:?
It
does.
john
thompson:?
It
does..
I
agree
with
you,
but
we
need
to
I
agree
with
you,
but
we
need
to
put
a
footnote
that
the
fence
put
a
footnote
that
the
fence,
as
presented
in
the
public
as
presented
in
the
public
hearing
is
stricken
from
the
hearing
is
stricken
from
the
record.
record.
that
we
--.
We
aren't
that
we
--
we
aren't
considering
that.
considering
that..
We
are
not
weighing
in
on
that..
A
H
H
H
H
A
G
Get
a
response.:
are
you
talking
about
the
items?
Are
you
talking
about
the
items
that
are
potential
items
that
that
are
potential
items
that
could
be
underneath
the
could
be
underneath
the
stairwell.
stairwell.?
You
can
propose
a
motion
or
you
can
propose
a
motion
or
condition
that
the
--
that
any
condition
that
the
--
that
any
items
under
at
stairwell
could.
C
Items
under
at
stairwell
could
be
covered.,
be
covered.,
jose,
gelats:.
The
point
that
jose
gelats:,
the
point
that
was
just
raised
since
we
are
was
just
raised
since
we
are
approving
a
site
plan
and
a
approving
a
site
plan
and
a
placement
of
a
new
accessory
placement
of
a
new
accessory
structure
on
a
historic
structure
on
a
historic
property.
property..
If
we
as
a
board,
decide
this,
if
we
as
a
board
decide
this
placement
is
appropriate
if
the
placement
is
appropriate,
if
the
fence
was
provided.
G
A
G
G
Appropriateness
cannot
address
a
fence.,
a
fence.,
because
it
is
not
before
this
because
it
is
not
before
this
board.
board.
additionally,.
It
is
not
additionally,.
It
is
not
appropriate
for
any
appropriate
for
any
commissioner
to
approve
or
commissioner
to
approve
or
disapprove
the
application
that.
G
or
can
happen
on
the
property.,
and
I
would
just
urge
this,
and
I
would
just
urge
this
commission
to
focus
on
the
commission
to
focus
on
the
application
that
is
before
--
application.
That
is
before
--
bfore
you
and
make
the
bfore
you
and
make
the
appropriate
--
a
motion
to
appropriate
--
a
motion
to
approve
or
deny
the
certificate
approve
or
deny
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
based
on
of
appropriateness
based
on
what
was
presented..
G
G
C
C
C
C
C
Property
located
at
945,
east
11th,
avenue.,
11th
avenue.,
because
based
upon
the
findings,
because,
based
upon
the
findings
of
fact,,
the
proposed
project
of
fact,,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
city
design.
Guidelines
of
the
city
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
the
following.
C
C
Staff
to
finalize
the
east
and
west
elevations,
specifically
west
elevations,
specifically
regarding
any
additional
b
regarding
any
additional
b
banding
or
faux
vents
based
on
banding
or
faux
vents.
Based
on
the
discussion
presented
at
the
the
discussion
presented
at
the
hearing,
that
the
applicant
hearing,
that
the
applicant
present
color
palettes,
present,
color
palettes,
lighting,
fixtures,
scoring
lighting
fixtures,
scoring
patterns
for
any
paving
and.
A
C
A
A
Camaria
pettis-mackle:,
can
we
ask
the
applicant
--?
If
the
we
ask
the
applicant
--?
If
the
applicant
understands
the
applicant
understands
the
conditions.
conditions.
john
thompson:,
we
have
a
john
thompson:,
we
have
a
motion.
motion.,
it
has
conditions.,
it
has
conditions.
it
got
added
on
to
with
an
it
got
added
on
to
with
an
amendment.
amendment..
Do
you
understad
and
accept?