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You'll
have
a
limited
time
to
make
a
presentation.
make
a
presentation.,
we
suggest
being
thorough,
but
we
suggest
being
thorough,
but
concise.
concise.
when
coming
to
the
microphone
when
coming
to
the
microphone.
You'll
need
to
identify
yourself,
you'll
need
to
identify
yourself
and
the
relationship
to
the
and
the
relationship
to
the
project.
project..
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
the
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
the
any
questions
during
the
presentation.
presentation..
The
project
should
be
presented.
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By
site
plan,
elevations,,
architectural
details,
wall,
architectural
details,
wall,
section.,
section.
staff
will
present
the
staff
staff
will
present
the
staff
report.
report.,
we'll
then
ask
for
pub
lment,
we'll
then
ask
for
pub
lment
comment.
comment..
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
the
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation..
The
presentation.
please
state,
and
spell
your
name,
please
state
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
clearly..
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A
Applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
for
rebuttal..
The
public
hearing
will
then
be.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
closed..
The
only
comments
allowed
after
the
only
comments
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed.
The
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
questions
from
the
commissioners.
commissioners..
The
commissioners
will,
then
the
commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
and
make
their
discuss
the
case
and
make
their
decision
based
on
city
ordinance.
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march,
and
april
and
may.
excuse
me.,
excuse,
me.,
four
months
of
staff
reviews
in
four
months
of
staff
reviews
in
your
packet
to
see
what
we
have
your
packet
to
see
what
we
have
been
doing
administratively
and
been
doing
administratively
and
follow
along.
follow
along..
Those
are
submitted
into
the
those
are
submitted
into
the
record
as
well.
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record
as
well.,
then
just
to
keep
everybody
on
then
just
to
keep
everybody
on
task,.
We
have
been
moving
around
task,.
We
have
been
moving
around
some
public
hearing
dates,
but
some
public
hearing
dates,
but
the
next
public
hearing-
that's
the
next
public
hearing,
that's
reflected
is
july.
28,
2020,
in
reflected
is
july.
28,
2020,
in
this
room.
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Us
from
there.
on
the
agenda,.
The
next
item
is
on
the
agenda,.
The
next
item
is
election
of
officers.
election
of
officers..
Through
your
rules,,
we
elect
through
your
rules,.
We
elect
officers
in
april,
but
since
we
officers
in
april,
but
since
we
haven't
been
together
in
quite
a
haven't,
been
together
in
quite
a
while,,
we
have
postponed
that
to
while,.
We
have
postponed
that
to
today,
so
at
this
time
we
can
today.
So
at
this
time
we
can
either
do
the
election
of.
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Ron
vila:.
The
next
item
is
conflicts
of
interest
and
conflicts
of
interest
and
ex-parte
communication.
ex-parte
communication..
She
will
address
that
issue.
She
will
address
that
issue.
Camaria
pettis-mackle:,
good
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
good
morning,,
again.,
morning,,
again.,
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
city,
attorney's
office.
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city,
attorney's,
office.
at
this
time
can
any
of
at
this
time
can
any
of
the
--
would
any
of
the
the
--
would
any
of
the
commissioners
please
state
for
commissioners,
please
state
for
the
record
whether
or
not
they
the
record
whether
or
not
they
had
any
ex-parte
communications
had
any
ex-parte
communications
regarding
any
of
the
matters
or.
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This
project,
as
well
for
architecture
and
design.
architecture
and
design.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
you.
you..
Any
other
commissioners
have
any
any
other
commissioners
have
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
conflicts
of
interest.
Regarding
any
of
the
items
on
the
agenda?.
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Any
of
the
items
on
the
agenda?
thank
you.
thank
you.
ron,
vila:
mr.
touchilytion,
ron
vila:
mr.
touchilytion,,
along
with
the
--
thompson,,
along
with
the
--
thompson,,
along
with
the
information
on
along
with
the
information
on
the
record,
is
form
8b
that
needs
the
record
is
form
8b.
That
needs
to
be
filled
out
and
handed
to.
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E
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Second.
john
thompson:,
all
in
favor?,
john
thompson:,
all
in
favor?
any
opposed?,
any
opposed?
okay.
okay.
motion,
carries.
motion,
carries.
ron,
vila:,
the
last
ron
vila:,
the
last
continuation
is
blc
20-122
for
continuation
is
blc
20-122
for
the
address
of
1499
east
7th,
the
address
of
1499
east
7th
avenue,
and
that
was
requested
by
avenue,
and
that
was
requested
by
the
agent
to
be
continued
to
the
the
agent
to
be
continued
to
the
august.
25,
2020,
public
hearing.
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John
thompson:,
all
in
favor?
any
opposed?,
any
opposed?
motion,
carries.
motion,
carries.
ron,
vila:,
the
last
item
before
ron
vila:,
the
last
item.
Before
we
start
the
public
hearing
is
we
start?
The
public
hearing
is
the
swear-in.,
the
swear-in.
everybody
that
wishes
to
everybody
that
wishes
to
testify,.
Please
stand
up
and.
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Building
on
8th
avenue,
which
is
a
less
important
street
than
7th
a
less
important
street
than
7th
avenue
in
that
it
plays
a
avenue
in
that
it
plays
a
supportive
role
to
retail,
supportive
role
to
retail
functions
of
buildings,
located
functions
of
buildings
located
on
7th
avenue.
So
the
building
is
on
7th
avenue.
So
the
building
is
more
simple
than
you're
likely.
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J
J
And
we'll
see
the
site
plan.
so,
as
you
can
see,,
it
is
so,
as
you
can
see,,
it
is
basically
a
landlocked
site
that
basically
a
landlocked
site
that
faces
8th
avenue
and
there
is
faces
8th
avenue
and
there
is
parking
on
either
side
and
there
parking
on
either
side,
and
there
is
a
couple
feet
between
the
is
a
couple
feet
between
the
rear,
facade
and
alley.
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J
J
Shape-
and
they
will
remain.
I'll
just
mention
the
canopy
I'll
just
mention
the
canopy,
which
is
there
will
remain
and
which
is
there
will
remain
and
be
repaired.
be
repaired..
The
storefront
is
not.
The
storefront
is
not
originally.
originally..
It's
stained
wood.,
it's
stained,
wood.!
We
can
tell
from
the
depression
we
can
tell
from
the
depression
in
the
curb
couth,
and
also
that
in
the
curb
couth,
and
also
that
depression
into
the
building
depression
into
the
building
that
that
was
likely
a
--
curb
that
that
was
likely
a
--
curb
cut.
cut..
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J
J
This
is
the
west
facade
of
the
building.
building..
There
had
been
window
openings,
there
had
been
window
openings,
which
were
some
time
ago,,
which
were
some
time
ago,
probably
decades
ago,
were
probably
decades
ago
were
infilled
and
they'll
remain
infilled
and
they'll
remain
infilled.
infilled..
This
is
the
east
side,
east.
J
This
is
the
east
side,
east
facade
of
the
building,
which
has
facade
of
the
building,
which
has
some
damage
that
you
can
see
some
damage
that
you
can
see,
which
is
part
of
the
which
is
part
of
the
rehabilitation
building
that
rehabilitation
building
that
will
be
repaired.
will
be
repaired.
and
the
repointing
will
be
done
and
the
repointing
will
be
done.
According
to
the
secretary
of
according
to
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards
and.
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J
Some
modifications
to
the
roof
and
we'll
see
that
later
in
the
and
we'll
see
that
later
in
the
presentation.
presentation.,
this
is
the
roof.
This
is
the
roof.
Looking
--
rooftop,
looking
looking
--
rooftop
looking
north.
north.,
and
this
is
the
rooftop
looking-
and
this
is
the
rooftop
looking
south
towards
the
alley.
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J
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I
actually
was
in
the
building
in
2017
and
2018
during
that
in
2017
and
2018
during
that
time
period
for
that
previous
time
period
for
that
previous
owner.
owner.,
so
we're
looking
at
this
so
we're
looking
at
this
photograph.
photograph.
looking
north
towards
the
looking
north
towards
the
storefront.
storefront.,
you
can
see
the
original
you
can
see
the
original
columns.
columns.
likely
the
original
columns.
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Original
but
we're
ering
on
the
side
of
caution
and
they'l,
be
side
of
caution
and
they'l
be
used
in
the
design
by
wilder
used
in
the
design
by
wilder
architects.
architects..
This
is
the
interior
of
this
is
the
interior
of
the
--
of
what
was
at
one
time
the
--
of
what
was
at
one
time
the
freight
elevator.,
the
freight
elevator.,
the
elevator
itself
does
not.
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Will
be
--,
the
interior
will
be
refitted
to
accommodate
a
modern
refitted
to
accommodate
a
modern
elevator,
which
is
part
of
the
elevator,
which
is
part
of
the
proposed
renovations
for
this
proposed
renovations
for
this
project.
project..
This
is
the
rear
stairwell,
which
this
is
the
rear.
Stairwell,
which
is
also
not
original.,
is
also
not
original..
We
believe
it
dates
from
circa.
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J
front
of
the
building..
There
is
a
conference
room.
There
is
a
conference
room,
beyond.
beyond.,
we'll
see
a
shot
of
that
as
we'll
see
a
shot
of
that
as
well.
well.
there
had
been
dropped
ceiling,
there
had
been
dropped
ceiling,
which
was
not
originally.,
which
was
not
originally.,
again,,
2005,
era.,
again,,
2005,
era.
and
all
of
these
partitions
will
and
all
of
these
partitions
will
be
removed
and
replaced
and
be
removed
and
replaced
and
you'll
see
the
plans
for
that.
J
J
J
And
there
is
earlier
original
wood
flooring
which
will
be
wood,
flooring
which
will
be
repaired
and
we'll
talk
about
repaired
and
we'll
talk
about
that
later..
That
later.
here
is
the
conference
room.
That
here
is
the
conference
room
that
I
mentioned
on
the
north
side
of
I
mentioned
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
on
the
second.
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Elevator
on
the
left-hand
side
of
this
board.
of
this
board.
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
on
the
right-hand
side
of
the
board
is
the
cut-through
of
the
board
is
the
cut-through
of
the
front
facade
which
shows
front
facade
which
shows
maintaining
the
existing
canopy,,
maintaining
the
existing
canopy,,
removing
the
awnings
and
removing
the
awnings
and
obviously
retaining
all
of
the
obviously
retaining
all
of
the
brick
facade
and
repairing
and.
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Questions
that
you
have.
ron,
vila:
good
morning,
ron,
vila:,
good
morning,,
commissioners.,
commissioners.
ron,
vila.
ron,
vila.
moving
forward
with
the
staff
moving
forward
with
the
staff
report
portion
of
the
public
report
portion
of
the
public
hearing.
hearing..
When
we
get
these
period
when
we
get
these
period
buildings
and
evaluate
if
buildings
and
evaluate
if
they're
candidates
for
the
ad
they're
candidates
for
the
ad
valorem,,
we
look
at
the
interior
valorem,.
We
look
at
the
interior
and
exterior.
and
exterior..
This
building
came
forward
to
us.
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Moving
to
the
interior,
what's
recommended
is
evaluating.
The
recommended
is
evaluating
the
character-defining
features
of
character-defining
features
of
the
inside
and
retaining
the
the
inside
and
retaining
the
inside
manner
as
much
as
inside
manner
as
much
as
possible.
possible..
When
our
office
first
got
when
our
office
first
got
involved,,
there
were
many
involved,.
There
were
many
contemporary
additions
to
the
contemporary
additions
to
the
interior,
and
you
see
the
interior
and
you
see
the
condition
of
the
building
now
so
condition
of
the
building.
Now
so
in
working
with
our
team,,
we
had.
G
G
Very
little
bit
of
the
building
remained
in
place,
so
I
believe,
remained
in
place,
so
I
believe
stephanie
and
her
team
went
stephanie
and
her
team
went
forward
evaluating
the
historic
forward,
evaluating
the
historic
conditions
and
bringing
those
to
conditions
and
bringing
those
to
light
in
this
adaptive.
Reuse
light
in
this
adaptive,
reuse,
moving
forward.
moving
forward..
So
that's
a
little
history
of
so
that's
a
little
history
of
where
it's
at.,
where
it's
at.
along
the
way,.
We
will
work
with
along
the
way,.
We
will
work
with
them
as
well.
G
G
And
you
uncover
differents
and
we
ask
that
they
share
that
with
we
ask
that
they
share
that
with
us
to
assist
them
moving
us
to
assist
them
moving
forward.
forward.
then
you'll
see
the
then
you'll
see
the
post-rehabilitation
after
the
post-rehabilitation
after
the
fact.
fact..
So
having
said,
that,
staff
finds
so
having
said,
that,
staff
finds
with
the
secretary
of
interior.
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D
questions.
thanks
you.
thanks
you.
nice
presentation.,
nice
presentation.,
jose
gelats:
thank
you.,
jose
gelats:
thank
you..
That
was
a
very
comprehensive
that
was
a
very
comprehensive
presentation.
presentation..
Just
a
point
of
clarification
on
just
a
point
of
clarification
on
the
south
elevation,
there,
the
south
elevation,
there
appears
to
be
an
existing
window,
appears
to
be
an
existing
window.
That
falls
in
line
with
the
that
falls
in
line
with
the
elevator
shaft.
elevator
shaft..
Is
that
being
retained?.
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E
D
A
motion.
jose
gelats:,
the
project
seems
jose
gelats:.
The
project
seems
complete
to
me
and
they
--
ron
complete
to
me
and
they
--
ron
mentioned
they're
willing
to
mentioned
they're
willing
to
work
with
staff,
as
they
perhaps
work
with
staff,
as
they
perhaps
uncover
any
additional
details
uncover
any
additional
details
that
need
to
be
retained,.
So
I'm.
D
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john
thompson:,
all
right.,
let's
go.,
let's
go.
ron,
vila:
good
morning,
ron,
vila:,
good
morning,,
commissioners.,
commissioners.
ron,
vila.
ron,
vila.
staff
with
historic
staff
with
historic,
preservation.
preservation.,
make
sure
my
mic
is
on.,
make
sure
my
mic
is
on..
The
next
case
is
blc
20-64.
G
G
Some
of
the
historic
fabric
in
ybor
city.,
ybor
city.-
this
is
north
of
columbus
drive..
This
is
north
of
columbus.
Drive.
property
in
question
is
property
in
question
is
highlighted
in
the
green
box.
highlighted
in
the
green
box..
It's
a
corner,
parcel.,
it's
a
corner,
parcel.
the
request
in
front
of
you
this.
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G
G
G
G
G
Moving
to
the
north
down
10th
street,
property
in
question
is
street,.
Property
in
question
is
to
the
south
or
to
the
right
of
to
the
south
or
to
the
right
of
the
picture.,
the
picture.,
as
I
stated,
doing
new,
as
I
stated,
doing
new
construction
over
here.
So
you
construction
over
here.
So
you
see
activity
which
is
very
see,
activity
which
is
very
positive
and
they
have
a
positive
and
they
have
a
sidewalk
that
encompasses
the
sidewalk
that
encompasses
the
site.
site..
G
G
Subject:
site.
to
the
south
of
the
subject
to
the
south
of
the
subject:
site,
you
have
these
period
site,.
You
have
these
period
homes.
homes.
to
get
a
feeling
for
the
to
get
a
feeling
for
the
neighborhood
as
well,.
This
is
neighborhood
as
well,.
This
is
looking
down
10th
street
to
the
looking
down
10th
street,
to
the
north.
north.
property
in
question
is
to
your
property
in
question.
Is
to
your
right
over
here.
right
over
here.,
I
showed
a
series
of
photos..
G
G
looking
to
the
north.
and
just
to
conclude,.
This
is
and
just
to
conclude,.
This
is
10th
looking
to
the
south,
back
10th,
looking
to
the
south
back
towards
columbus
drive
and
you
towards
columbus
drive,
and
you
see
the
fabric
of
the
see
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood,,
the
historic
neighborhood,,
the
historic
fabric
and
larger
structures
as
fabric
and
larger
structures
as
well.
well..
At
this
time.
I'll
have
the
agent
at
this
time
I'll
have
the
agent
address
the
board.
C
This
is
a
proposed
new
single-family
home
with
a
single-family
home,
with
a
detailed
accessory
structure
and
detailed
accessory
structure
and
one-car
garage
that
will
be
one-car
garage
that
will
be
accessible
off.
17Th
avenue.,
accessible
off,
17th
avenue.,
the
home
will
front
on
to
10th
the
home
will
front
on
to
10th
street
and
the
setback
will
be
street
and
the
setback
will
be
in
line
with
the
home.
That's
to
in
line
with
the
home.
That's
to
the
north
that
we
just
finished
the
north
that
we
just
finished
construction
on
a
few
weeks.
Ago.
C
sidewalk,
along
10th
street.
five
feet
on
the
south
side
as
five
feet.
On
the
south
side,
as
ron
mentioned
in
previous
ron
mentioned
in
previous
sanborn
maps,,
there
was
some
sanborn
maps,.
There
was
some
significant
distancing,
so
we
significant
distancing.
So
we
wanted
to
keep
distance
between
wanted
to
keep
distance
between
the
new
home
to
the
north
as
the
new
home
to
the
north,
as
well
as
the
proposed
new.
C
C
C
wall.,
so
we're
proposing
to
so
we're
proposing
to
reconstruct
the
entire
retaining
reconstruct
the
entire
retaining
wall
along
10th
street
and
then
wall
along
10th
street
and
then
along
17th
avenue,
as
well
as
new
along
17th
avenue,
as
well
as
new
sidewalks.
sidewalks..
This
sidewalk
here,
this
portion,
this
sidewalk
here,
this
portion
will
be
removed
with
grass.
C
C
C
C
C
A
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
C
This
shows
the
retaining
wall
that
will
be
rebuilt
and
that
will
be
rebuilt
and
typically
we'll
do
a
footer..
Typically
we'll
do
a
footer..
I
think
when
these
were
built.
I
think
when
these
were
built
back
in
the
day,,
they
probably
back
in
the
day,.
They
probably
didn't,
have
a
footer
and
that's
didn't,
have
a
footer
and
that's
why
some
of
them
have
fallen.
C
G
G
G
G
Construction
in
the
historic
question
within
the
district.
question
within
the
district.,
this
request
meets
it..
This
request
meets
it.
staff
feels
the
application
is
staff
feels
the
application
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
city,
consistent
with
the
ybor
city
design,
guidelines
submitted
to
design
guidelines
submitted
to
us
on
march
6,
2020.
G
Us
on
march,
6,
2020.,
having
said
that,
staff
still
having
said
that,,
staff
still
has
some
concerns
with
some
of
has
some
concerns
with
some
of
the
architectural
features.
The
architectural
features
submitted.
This
morning.
submitted
this
morning.
I'd
like
to
go
through
those
at
I'd
like
to
go
through
those
at
this
time..
This
time.
mr.
gibbons
did
talk
about
the
mr.
gibbons,
did
talk
about
the
front
yard
setback
and
ten
foot,
front
yard
setback
and
ten
foot
to
be
averaging
of
the
block
to
be
averaging
of
the
block
face.
That's
already
established.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Lastly,
is
to
score
the
hard
scape,
historically
correct.,
scape,
historically
correct..
There
is
a
pattern
down
that
there
is
a
pattern
down
that
street
and
as
he
does
the
street
and
as
he
does
the
ribbons
into
the
private
ribbons
into
the
private
property,
to
score
those
and
to
property,
to
score
those
and
to
provide
reference
for
that
provide
reference
for
that
scoring
pattern
to
staff
prior.
G
G
A
A
A
I
C
A
C
D
D
D
Site
plan
or
the
elevations?
john
thompson:
site
plan
john
thompson:
site
plan,
elevations,
wall,
sections,,
elevations,
wall,
sections,,
details.,
details.,
jose
gelats:.
One
question
did
jose
gelats:.
One
question
did
have
to
do
with
the
way
it
seems
have
to
do
with
the
way
it
seems
on
two
elevations,
the
crown
of.
D
The
windows
hit
the
bandboard,
which
is
not
a
detail.
We,
which
is
not
a
detail.
We
typically
see
in
the
historic,
typically
see
in
the
historic
district.
district.,
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
way
I'm
wondering
if
there
is
a
way
you
can
bring
the
windows
down.,
you
can
bring
the
windows
down..
Secondly,
crash
show,
there
is
a
secondly
crash,
show
there
is
a
front
door
and
then
on
the
rear
front
door
and
then
on
the
rear
of
the
wrap
around
porch,
you
of
the
wrap
around
porch,.
You
have
another
door
that
looks.
D
C
E
C
E
C
C
Is
this
home
is
sold
to
a
buyer
and
ron?
Has
a
new
color,
plat
and
ron?
Has
a
new
color
plat
that
we
work
with,?
Then
we
have
that
we
work
with,,
then
we
have
them
select,
colors
and
then
them
select,
colors
and
then
we'll
get
with
ron
and
his
staff
we'll
get
with
ron
and
his
staff
to
--
for
his
approval
and.
F
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
That
is
not
really
historic
and
it's
more
of
a
--
well,.
I
think
it's
more
of
a
--
well,.
I
think
we
see
it
as
a
conflict
on
those
we
see
it
as
a
conflict
on
those
two
windows.,
two
windows.
that
one
to
the
--,
the
one
in
that
one
to
the
--,
the
one
in
the
center
window
and
smaller
the
center
window
and
smaller
window
above
that.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
I
see
four
corners
where
that
column
could
be
engaged
and
what
column
could
be
engaged
and
what
I
wouldn't
want
to
do
is
just
I
wouldn't
want
to
do,
is
just
put
it
in
one
spot
and
not
the
put
it
in
one
spot
and
not
the
others.
others..
So
I
mean,,
I
think
that
the
way
so
I
mean,,
I
think
that
the
way
to
do
this
currently,,
if
there
to
do
this
currently,
if
there
are
four
corners
that
don't
have.
A
A
A
House
and
follow
the
porch
around,
that
detailing
would
around,
that
detailing
would
want
to
be
consistent.
want
to
be
consistent..
I
think
when
you
get
around
the,
I
think
when
you
get
around
the
back
side
there
for
the
back
back
side
there
for
the
back
porch
door,,
you
get
kind
of
porch
door,.
You
get
kind
of
cramped
there
on
that
top
right
cramped
there
on
that
top
right
elevation,
where
you
have
a.
A
A
With
no
pilester
and
no
engaged
columns,,
I'm
okay
with
the
zero
columns,,
I'm
okay,
with
the
zero
portion
of
it,
but
picking
and
portion
of
it,
but
picking
and
choosing
corners
if
they
go
on
choosing
corners
if
they
go
on,
would
be
something
that
we'd
would
be
something
that
we'd
have
to.
Let
you
look
at
with
have
to
let
you
look
at
with
staff
and
get
that
approved.
A
A
D
D
Be
a
good
time
to
look
at
them
ag
ag
again.
again.
john
thompson:.
I
think
it
was
john
thompson:.
I
think
it
was
a
photographic,
reference.,
a
photographic,
reference.,
jose
gelats:.
The
reason
I
jose
gelats:.
The
reason
I
mention
it
is
on
the
mention
it
is
on
the
photographic,
reference,,
the
photographic
reference,,
the
door
--,
the
--,
not
the
garage
door,
--
the
--,
not
the
garage
door,
but
the
door
on
the
door,
but
the
door
on
the
photographic
reference
appeared.
D
D
The
--
what?
the
door
for
a
person.,
the
door
for
a
person.,
a
service
door.,
a
service
door.,
this
door,
here?
this
door,
here?,
jose
gelats:,
yeah.,
jose
gelats:
yeah.
on
the
photographic
reference,
on
the
photographic
reference,,
it
appeared
to
be
a
metal
door,
it
appeared
to
be
a
metal
door,
but
besides
that,,
it
should
be
a.
D
C
D
A
A
C
C
C
A
D
D
E
F
F
D
So,
with
that,
weneed,
a
motion.
jose
gelats:
I'll
make
a
jose
gelats:
I'll,
make
a
motion
for
a
final
approval
with
motion
for
a
final
approval
with
conditions.
conditions..
This
is
to
move
to
grant
a
this
is
to
move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
blc
20-64
for
the
property.
D
D
D
D
D
D
D
I
think
I
got
everything,
right?,
therefore,
based
upon
the
therefore
based
upon
the
findings
of
fact,.
The
proposed
findings
of
fact,,
the
proposed
project
would
be
consistent
with
project
would
be
consistent
with
the
ybor
city
design
guidelines,
the
ybor
city
design,
guidelines
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
the.
A
A
Attached
to
the
motion?
yes.
yes.,
john
thompson:,
let
me
ask
a
john
thompson:.
Let
me
ask
a
question
of
the
motion.
Question
of
the
motion.
Presented.
presented.
does
the
way
you
worded
the
does
the
way
you
worded.
The
motion
allow
the
owner/agent
to
motion
allow
the
owner/agent
to
move
forward
with
the
porch
as
move
forward
with
the
porch
as
presented,
or
does
it
require.
D
A
D
D
Agreed
that
as
presented
was
okay.
okay.
john
thompson:
right.
john
thompson:
right.,
jose
gelats:
staff
had
a
jose
gelats:
staff
had
a
concern
that
maybe
it
needed
to
concern
that
maybe
it
needed
to
be
--
for
there
to
be
additional,
be
--
for
there
to
be
additional
discussion.
discussion..
If
you'd
like
the
motion
to.
A
A
G
G
G
The
request
in
front
of
you
this
morning
is
two-fold.
morning
is
two-fold.
they're,
asking
for
a
variance
to
they're
asking
for
a
variance
to
reduce
the
number
of
parking
reduce
the
number
of
parking
spaces
from
one
to
zero
for
a
spaces
from
one
to
zero,
for
a
business
professional
and
for
business
professional
and
for
new
construction
for
certificate.
G
G
G
Residential
component
from
6th,
5th
and
4th
into
the
additional
5th
and
4th
into
the
additional
sector,
as
you
approach
the
sector
as
you
approach
the
railroad
line,
that
was
on
first
railroad
line.
That
was
on
first
avenue,
which
is
today
is
avenue
which
is
today
is
(inaudible)..
(Inaudible).,
you
see
the
empty
parcels
here.,
you
see
the
empty
parcels
here.
and
just
a
little
bit
of
the.
G
North.,
if
you
look
at
a
current,
if
you
look
at
a
current
overhead,,
it's
a
vacant
parcel
overhead,,
it's
a
vacant,
parcel
that
faces
17th
street
and
that
faces
17th
street
and
second
avenue..
Second
avenue..
This
is
the
housing
stock
that
I,
this
is
the
housing
stock
that
I
eluded
to
that
is
still
there.
G
There
is
four
out
of
the
five..
This
is
a
non-contributing.
This
is
a
non-contributing
structure
that
completes
the
structure
that
completes
the
block.
block..
I
think,
what's
important
to
look,
I
think,
what's
important
to
look
at
is
the
massing
and
density
of
at
is
the
massing
and
density
of
the
rooftops
of
the
industrial.
G
G
Allowed
in
this
industrial
section.
section.,
this
is
a
vicinity
map..
This
is
a
vicinity
map.
a
lot
of
times.
I
don't
show
it,
a
lot
of
times.
I
don't
show
it,,
but
I
think
in
this
particular,
but
I
think
in
this
particular
case
it
has
some
reference.
case.
It
has
some
reference.,
you
see
within
the
whole,
you
see
within
the
whole
historic
district
outlined
in.
G
Red,
this
green
box
here
is
the
subject
site
on
the
southern
subject
site
on
the
southern
fringe
of
--
within
the
ybor
fringe
of
--
within
the
ybor
city,
historic
district.,
city,
historic
district..
You
notice
the
gongsentration
of
you
notice,
the
gongsentration
of
non-contributing
structures,
all
non-contributing
structures
all
around
it
and
speckles
through.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
B
B
B
B
into
the
rest
of
the
project.,
just
a
little
bit
about
just
a
little
bit
about
stephanie
and
I,.
We
live
in
ybor,
stephanie
and
I,.
We
live
in
ybor,
city.
city..
We
are
architects,
developers,
we
are
architects,
developers
and
owners.
and
owners..
We
constructed
roughly
the
value
we
constructed
roughly
the
value
of
about
a
million
dollars
worth
of
about
a
million
dollars
worth
of
development
ground
up
in
ybor
of
development,
ground
up
in
ybor
city
and
we're
very
pro-ybor.
B
One
on
the
left,
--
won
a
hillsboro
county
design,
award,
hillsboro
county
design
award
and
the
other
one
is
popular
for
and
the
other
one
is
popular
for
photo
opportunities.
photo
opportunities..
This
year
we
launched
an
this
year.
We
launched
an
exciting
new
company
which
wiwee
exciting
new
company,
which
wiwee
based
in
ybor
city,
called
based
in
ybor
city,
called
nimble.
nimble..
This
keys
into
our
present
aches.
B
This
keys
into
our
present
aches,
today.
today.
--,
this
keys
into
our
--.
This
keys
into
our
presentation,
today.
presentation,
today.,
we'll
share
more
about
that
in
a
we'll
share
more
about
that
in
a
bit.
bit..
So
as
mr.
vila
described
our
so
as
mr.
vila
described,
our
variance
request
is
to
go
from
variance
request
is
to
go
from
one
parking
space
to
zero.
B
B
No
platted
alley
access.
the
construction
--,
the
third,
the
construction
--.
The
third
item
is
the
construction
of
the
item.
Is
the
construction
of
the
parking
field
that
would
be
code
parking
field
that
would
be
code
compliant,
would
take
up
way.
More
compliant
would
take
up
way
more
than
half
of
the
site
which
than
half
of
the
site,
which
really
damages
the
economic.
B
B
B
Of
street
parking,
that
is
absolutely
not
utilized.,
absolutely
not
utilized.
in
having
lived
in
ybor
city
for
in
having
lived
in
ybor
city
for
a
while,.
Even
recently,
we
have
a
while,.
Even
recently,
we
have
seen
waivers
presented
for
other
seen
waivers
presented
for
other
projects
going
from
18
parking
projects
going
from
18
parking
spaces
to
zero.
B
We
hope
our
one
to
zero
is
pretty
nominal.
pretty
nominal.
just
to
quickly
highlight
the
just
to
quickly
highlight
the
history
of
the
site,
as
mr.
vila
history
of
the
site,,
as
mr.
vila
pointed
out
through
the
sanborn
pointed
out
through
the
sanborn
maps,.
As
long
as
I
lived
in
maps,
as
long
as
I
lived
in
ybor,,
this
corner
is
kind
of
a
ybor,.
This
corner
is
kind
of
a
derelict
left
over
where
people.
B
B
B
G
Variance
portion
of
our
request.
ron
vila:,
along
with
the
ron
vila:
along
with
the
information
that
mr.
bailey
information,
that
mr.
bailey
provided,
on
page
5
of
your
provided,
on
page
5
of
your
staff
report,
is
the
statement
of
staff
report
is
the
statement
of
the
variance
hardship,
criteria.,
the
variance
hardship
criteria..
I
would
ask
mr.
bailey
to
go.
F
Parking
space
configuration
would
take
up
more
than
half
of
would
take
up
more
than
half
of
the
site.,
the
site..
I
think
this
one
says
a
third.
I
think
this
one
says
a
third
just
because
that
was
a
previous
just
because
that
was
a
previous
variance.
variance.
we
were
going
to
go,
for
that
was
we
were
going
to
go,
for
that
was
backing
the
parking
spot.
B
Backing
the
parking
spot
directly
into
the
street
so
that
directly
into
the
street,
so
that
would
have
been
the
variance
would
have
been
the
variance
then
itself.,
then
itself.
and
then
lastly,,
as
I
already
and
then
lastly,,
as
I
already
stated,.
Just
the
fact
that
this
stated,
just
the
fact
that
this
industrial
corridor
has
a
industrial
corridor,
has
a
plethora
of
on-street
parking
plethora
of
on-street
parking
that
is
not
utilized
so
we'd
that
is
not
utilized.
So
we'd
hope
that
would
influence
your.
A
A
A
F
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
A
variance
to
back
into
the
right-of-way.
right-of-way.
residential
use
is
allowed
to
residential
use
is
allowed
to
back
into
a
local
street,
but
not
back
into
a
local
street,
but
not
a
commercial
use.,
a
commercial
use.,
so
that
would
give
them
the
so
that
would
give
them
the
option.
option.
option,
three,
which
we
are
option
three,
which
we
are
opposed
to
is
reducing
parking.
K
K
K
Another
parking
waiver
to
zero.,
so
we
would
object
to
that
as
so,
we
would
object
to
that
as
well.
well.
finally,,
as
--
on
my
supervisor
finally,
as
--
on
my
supervisor,
wanted
me
to
mention
that
while
wanted
me
to
mention
that,
while
there
is
parking
on
the
street,,
there
is
parking
on
the
street,,
it
is
not
designated
on-street,
it
is
not
designated
on-street.
Parking.
parking.
people
are
allowed
to
park
on
a
people
are
allowed
to
park
on
a
street
in
the
city
of
tampa
street
in
the
city
of
tampa,
except
for
the
areas
where.
K
K
K
A
D
D
D
B
B
D
B
B
D
B
Understand
how
large
a
handicap
spot
would
be
overlaid
on
to
the
spot
would
be
overlaid
on
to
the
property.
property.
as
mr.
marsh
said,,
fully
as
mr.
marsh
said,,
fully
compliant
ada
space
with
compliant
ada
space
with
maneuver
ability
is
pretty
much
maneuver
ability
is
pretty
much
up
to
the
back
of
the
project.
E
B
D
K
K
K
A
A
A
A
That
allows
you
to
set
forth
--
hypothetically,
let's
forth,
--
hypothetically,
let's
say
it's
a
yes,,
then
we
go
to
say
it's
a
yes,.
Then
we
go
to
the
certificate
of
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
what
you
appropriateness
for
what
you
want
to
accomplish
want
to
accomplish
architecturally.
architecturally..
What
you
want
to
accomplish
in.
A
A
A
H
H
legal
department..
What
we
--,
what
the
what
we
--,
what
the
commissioners
should
vote
on
is
commissioners
should
vote
on
is
what
the
application
is,
what
the
application
is
presented
for
and
that's
the
presented
for,
and
that's
the
only
thing
that
we
can
consider.
only
thing
that
we
can
consider.
is
what
is
presented
and
applied.
H
H
Future
requests,
but
we
can
only
focus
on
what
is
presented
today,
focus
on
what
is
presented
today
for
the
application.
for
the
application.,
the
variance
--
the
board,
the
variance
--.
The
board
can
--
the
commissioners,.
I
can
--
the
commissioners,
I
apologize,
can
only
vote.
Apologize,
can
only
vote
regarding
the
variance
here.
H
F
A
A
A
H
H
A
F
F
Liz
welch:,
may
I
ask
one
more
clarifying
for
me?
clarifying
for
me?
so
hypotetically,?
Should
they
so
hypotetically,?
Should
they
come
forward
in
the
come
forward
in
the
future
--?
And
I
don't
mean
to
future
--,
and
I
don't
mean
to
talk
about
you
like
you're,
not
talk
about
you
like
you're,
not
here.
here..
Should
they
come
forward
with
in.
F
Should
they
come
forward
with
in
the
future,
with
the
second,
the
future,
with
the
second
design.
design.?
That
will
also
be
a
discussion
that
will
also
be
a
discussion
about
whether
or
not
there
is
a
about
whether
or
not
there
is
a
variance
in
parking
and
that's
variance
in
parking
and
that's
when
the
handicap
parking,
when
the
handicap
parking
conversation
would
probably
conversation,
would
probably
occur,
correct?
F
occur,,
correct?,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
well,
--,
well,
--
liz,
welch:
they're,
not
liz
welch:
they're,
not
proposing
they
build
a
second
proposing.
They
build
a
second
facility
in
this
one
right,
here,
facility
in
this
one
right,
here,
and
in
what
they're,
presenting
and
in
what
they're
presenting
to
us,
it's
taking
it
from
one
to
us,,
it's
taking
it
from
one
to
to
camaria
pettis-mackle:
camaria,
pettis-mackle:,
correct.,
correct.
liz
welch:
next
time.
--
should
liz
welch:
next
time
--.
Should
they
come
back
because
they're
they
come
back
because
they're
going
to
expand
their
second.
F
Going
to
expand
their
second
building
on
to
that
--,
whatever
building
on
to
that
--,
whatever
their
proposed
was.
their
proposed
was..
It's
at
that
time,
we'll
have
the
it's
at
that
time.
We'll
have
the
conversation
about
the
parking,
conversation
about
the
parking,,
the
handicap
parking.,
the
handicap
parking.
correct?
correct?,
because
that's
where
that
is.
A
A
Transportation
is
recommending
as
the
required
space.
as
the
required
space.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
for
camaria
pettis-mackle:
for
right,
now.,
right
now.
for
this
application..
For
this
application.
john
thompson:the
diagram,
we
john
thompson:the
diagram.
We
saw
that
mr.
marsh
presented
is
saw
that
mr.
marsh
presented
is
transportation's,
recommended
transportation's
recommended
approach
to
dealing
with
the
one
approach
to
dealing
with
the
one
spot
on
this
site.
A
spot
on
this
site..
The
challenge
with
--
the
the
challenge
with
--.
The
hypothetical
challenge
is
that
hypothetical
challenge
is
that
it
--,
if
you
put
that
spot
in
it
--.
If
you
put
that
spot
in
place,,
it
limits
the
future
place,,
it
limits
the
future
development
of
the
site
and
the
development
of
the
site
and
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
certificate
of
appropriateness
that
we
would
be
considering
that
we
would
be
considering
immediately
after
voting
on
this
immediately
after
voting
on.
This
would
be
for
a
project
that.
F
Would
be
for
a
project
that
might
be
in
conflict
with
its
might
be
in
conflict
with
its
future
self.
future
self.
liz
welch:.
So
if
they
come
liz
welch:,
so
if
they
come
back
with
a
future
project,
back
with
a
future
project,
there
is
not
going
to.
There
is
not
going
to
be
--,
we're
not
going
to
have
to
be
--.
We're
not
going
to
have
to
do
a
variance
on
parking
for
a
do,
a
variance
on
parking
for
a
future
project?
A
A
Variance
it
twice?
john
thompson:,
well,,
nay,
came
john
thompson:,
well,,
nay
came
back.,
back.
liz
welch:,
I'm
sorry.
liz
welch:,
I'm
sorry.
john
thompson:.
If
they
came
john
thompson:,
if
they
came
back
with
the
additional
future
back
with
the
additional
future
project,,
what
I
understood
was
project,.
What
I
understood
was
there
would
be
an
additional.
K
K
K
They
did
compress
the
future
development,
though
--
we
had
development,
though
--
we
had
this
problem
before
where
people
this
problem
before,
where
people
try
to
propose
phased,
try
to
propose
phased
development
and
we
keep
telling
development
and
we
keep
telling
them,
one,.
You
have
to
show
us
them,
one,.
You
have
to
show
us
how
it
meets
code
in
each
phase.,
how
it
meets
code
in
each
phase.,
john
thompson:,
right.,
john
thompson:,
right.
and
then
deal
with
it
now
and
and
then
deal
with
it
now
and
then
it's
locked
in.,
then
it's
locked,
in.
K
K
K
So
right,
--,
I'm
not
sure..
If
he
adds
the
additional,
cuz,
if
he
adds
the
additional,
cuz,
he
have
to
replat?,
he
have
to
replat?,
I
don't
know.,
I
don't
know.,
I
don't
understand.,
I
don't
understand.,
so
we
would
probably
--
if
you
so,
we
would
probably
--
if
you
granted
--,
if
you
granted
the
granted
--.
If
you
granted
the
waiver
and
then
they
came
back
waiver
and
then
they
came
back
at
a
future
time
as
a
separate
at
a
future
time.
A
Basically,
like
--
again,,
a
self-imposed
hardship.
self-imposed
hardship.,
it's
like
they
created
the
it's
like:
they
created
the
non-conforming
condition.
non-conforming
condition.
john
thompson:.
Does
the
square
john
thompson:?
Does
the
square
footage
they're
requesting
footage
they're
requesting
potentially
in
the
future,.
H
K
F
K
K
There
is
many
proposed
projects
that
do
not
come
to
fruition.
that
do
not
come
to
fruition..
That's
why
we're
trying
to
--
as
that's?
Why
we're
trying
to
--
as
each
thing
gets
built,
either
it
each
thing
gets
built,
either
it
gets
considered
correctly
gets
considered
correctly
because
it
may
be
there
for
the.
E
Because
it
may
be
there
for
the
next
40
years.,
next
40
years.
levy,
nguyen:
does
the
levy
nguyen:?
Does
the
department
of
transportation
department
of
transportation
have
any
guidelines
on
--,
so
the
have
any
guidelines
on
--
so
the
lot
size,
they
say
it's
smaller
lot.
Size,.
They
say
it's
smaller
than
your
typical
lot,
right?
K
K
D
Have
to
have
the
ada
space.
levy,
nguyen:
understood.
levy,
nguyen:
understood.
thank
you.
thank
you.,
jose
gelats:.
I
don't
know
if
jose
gelats:.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
question
for
you
or
this
is
a
question
for
you
or
ron,
but
we
were
showed
the
ron,
but
we
were
showed
the
singular
lot
at
the
end
--.
It's
singular
lot
at
the
end.
--
it's
at
the
end
of
a
series
of
at
the
end
of
a
series
of
similarly-sized
lots
that
are
similarly-sized
lots
that
are
contributing
structures.
contributing
structures..
D
D
G
G
G
And
you
see
the
footprint
of
the
house
with
no
alley.
house
with
no
alley.,
there
was
no
parking.
There
was
no
parking
incorporated
to
these
incorporated
to
these
structures.
structures..
If
you
look
at
the
consistency,
if
you
look
at
the
consistency
over
here
and
the
immediate
over
here
and
the
immediate
vicinity
as
well,
and
then
over
vicinity
as
well,
and
then
over
here
so,,
you
know,,
I
can't
here
so,
you
know,.
I
can't
really
tell
what's
happening,
really
tell
what's
happening:
here.
here.,
there
is
a
little
space
in.
G
G
G
There
was
an
alley
incorporated
into
the
blocks,
into
the
grid
into
the
blocks,
into
the
grid
throughout
the
district,
but
you
throughout
the
district,
but
you
see
some
of
them
are
land
locked
see.
Some
of
them
are
land
locked
and
there
is
no
way
they
have,
and
there
is
no
way
they
have
parking.,
parking.,
so
parking
and
the
vehicles
so
parking
and
the
vehicles,
while
secondary
in
nature
in
the
while
secondary
in
nature.
In
the
early
1900s
in
the
districts,
early
1900s
in
the
districts,,
their
whole
life
was
walking.,
their
whole
life
was
walking.
everywhere.
G
D
A
B
B
B
F
A
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
I
H
When
they
have
a
brilliant
idea,
and
that's
how
I'm
feeling
about
and
that's
how
I'm
feeling
about
camaria
pettis-mackle:
excuse,
camaria
pettis-mackle:
excuse
me.
me.
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
camaria
pettis-mackle
from
the
legal
department.
legal
department..
Again,.
I'd
like
to
remind
the
again,
I'd
like
to
remind
the
commissioners
to
focus
their
commissioners
to
focus
their
discussion
on
the
hardship
discussion
on
the
hardship
aspect
of
the
variance
request,
aspect
of
the
variance
request
and
not
comment
on
any
design
and
not
comment
on
any
design
elements
or
again,
focus
on
the.
I
D
D
I
believe
that,
given
the
historic
pattern,
historic
pattern,
without
--
throughout
the
without
--
throughout
the
district,
especially
on
the
district,
especially
on
the
smaller
lots
and
more
smaller
lots,
and
more
specifically
on
this
block
of
specifically
on
this
block
of
which
this
property
is
the
fifth
which
this
property
is
the
fifth
one.
Of.
D
D
D
E
Jose
gelats:
okay.
john
thompson:
hardship?
john
thompson:
hardship?
levy,
nguyen:
yes.
levy,
nguyen:
yes.,
while
taking
the
historic
while
taking
the
historic
context
into
consideration,
the
context
into
consideration,
the
project
as
presented
right
now,
project
as
presented
right
now,,
I'm
a
bit
torn
on
just
because
I'm
a
bit
torn
on
just
because,
while
ybor
is
meant
to
be
a
very
while
ybor
is
meant
to
be
a
very
pedestrian
friendly,
walkable,,
pedestrian,
friendly
walkable,.
It's
not
always
ada
friendly.,
it's
not
always
ada
friendly.
E
and
because
the
parking
space
and
because
the
parking
space
would
provide
an
ada
space
for
would
provide
an
ada
space
for
the
project,.
That's
where
I'm
a
the
project,!
That's
where
I'm
a
little
torn
on
it,
because
as
little
torn
on
it,
because
as
presented
right
now,,
you
can
presented
right
now,,
you
can
actually
fit
the
parking
space
actually
fit.
The
parking
space
on
to
the
lot.
A
A
I
I
I
H
H
A
H
H
D
D
Do
we
have
a
second?,
jose
gelats:
I'll
second
it,,
jose
gelats:,
I'll
second
it,
and
just
--?
If
I
can
add
it
for
and
just
--,
if
I
can
add
it
for
the
record
that
I'm
basing
my
the
record
that
I'm
basing
my
second
on
the
fact
that
there
is
second
on
the
fact
that
there
is
historical
precedent,
historical
precedent
specifically
within
this
block,
specifically
within
this
block
on
adjacent
properties,
for
there.
A
A
G
A
B
So
just
to
get
going
here,
the
design
guidelines.
You
know
the
design
guidelines,
you
know
very
well.,
very
well..
We
just
listed
them
out
here,
for
we
just
listed
them
out
here
for
easier,
conversation.,
easier,
conversation.,
we'll
proceed
in
the
order
that
we'll
proceed
in
the
order
that
you
said,
but
just
wanted
to
you
said,,
but
just
wanted
to
review
these
really
quickly.
B
B
B
B
B
B
Not
only
to
the
adjacent
structures,
but
just
back
to
what
structures,
but
just
back
to
what
commissioner
schiller
said
about.
Commissioner
schiller
said
about
the
way
that
ybor
city
used
to
the
way
that
ybor
city
used
to
function
was
on
a
much
more
function
was
on
a
much
more
granular
level.
granular
level..
There
was
more
small.
B
There
was
more
small
entrepreneurs
that
were
working
entrepreneurs
that
were
working
and
selling
their
goods
and
we
and
selling
their
goods,
and
we
feel
like
this
module,
is
feel
like
this.
Module
is
conducive
to
that
type
of
conducive
to
that
type
of
historic
behavior
of
historic
behavior
of
entrepreneurs.
entrepreneurs..
We
feel
like
this
facade
width
we
feel
like
this
facade
width
is
very
sensitive.
B
It's
quite
small
in
footprint.
the
setbacks
you
can
see
above
the
setbacks,
you
can
see
above
clearly
align
with
the
clearly
align
with
the
single-family
residence
to
the
single-family
residence
to
the
north
and,
like
I
mentioned,
the
north
and
like
I
mentioned,
the
ability
to
have
planters
around
ability
to
have
planters
around
the
corner
to
soften
things,
up
the
corner
to
soften
things,
up
on
the
pedestrian
level.
on
the
pedestrian
level..
The
alignment
we
feel
is
the
alignment
we
feel
is
perfectly
aligned
with
the.
B
once
upon
a
time.,
a
lot
of
these
small
storefronts.
A
lot
of
these
small
storefronts
have
been
gobbled
up,
and
you
have
been
gobbled
up,
and
you
can
actually
--.
If
you
look
down,
can
actually
--.
If
you
look
down
7th
avenue,
you
can
see
some
of
7th
avenue.
You
can
see
some
of
the
bones
that
used
to
be
there,
the
bones
that
used
to
be
there
in
the
individual
storefronts.
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
F
Why
don't
you
take
this
last
line?
line?,
the
very
last
one.,
the
very
last
one.,
so
each
time
we
share
our
so
each
time
we
share
our
mission
to
give
entrepreneurs
a
mission
to
give
entrepreneurs
a
nimble
platform
to
launch
their
nimble
platform
to
launch
their
dreams,.
They
ask:
when
can
I
move
dreams,
they
ask.
When
can
I
move
in?
in?,
yeah.
yeah.,
so
just
quickly
to
summarize
so
just
quickly.
To
summarize
that
piece,
we
have
been
having
that
piece,.
F
H
And
can
be
for
the
ybor
city
district.
district.,
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
since
camaria
pettis-mackle:,
since
the
applicant
is
finished,
the
applicant
is
finished,
presenting
his
case,,
I
noticed
presenting
his
case,.
I
noticed
that
you
have
displayed
your
that.
You
have
displayed
your
images
on
an
I-pad
or
something.
H
G
Yes.
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
camaria
pettis-mackle:
thank
you.
you.
ron,
vila:
good
morning,
ron,
vila:
good
morning,,
commissioners.
commissioners.
ron,
vila.
ron,
vila.
staff
with
historic
staff
with
historic,
preservation.
preservation.
staff's.
Finding
this
application
staff's
finding
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
city
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
city
design,
guidelines.
G
Industrial
section,,
we
had
some
additional
concerns
that
could
additional
concerns
that
could
be
discussed
this
morning
on
be
discussed.
This
morning.
On
page
three
of
my
staff,
report.
page
three
of
my
staff,
report.
just
to
elaborate
on
the
just
to
elaborate
on
the
presentation
that
was
given,
all
presentation
that
was
given,
all
the
horizontal
surfacing
to
call
the
horizontal
surfacing
to
call
out
the
materials
for
the
hard
out
the
materials
for
the
hard
scape
and
the
scoring
to
be.
G
G
G
G
G
Roof
but
I'm
sure
it
will
be
a
little
slope,
roof
with
rain
little
slope,
roof
with
rain,
liters
and
gutters
to
direct
the
liters
and
gutters
to
direct
the
water.
So
it
doesn't
create
a
water,
so
it
doesn't
create
a
negative
affect
on
the
negative
affect
on
the
neighbors.
neighbors..
Then
lastly,,
I
think,
to
really
then
lastly,.
I
think,
to
really
make
this
building
part
of
the
make
this
building
part
of
the
ybor
fabric
is
the
lighting.
G
G
F
K
John
marsh,
transportation
and
planning.
and
planning.,
I
noticed
on
the
renderings,
I'm
I
noticed
on
the
renderings,
I'm
not
exactly
clear
that
there
are
not
exactly
clear
that
there
are
planters
that
appear
to
be
in
planters
that
appear
to
be
in
the
right-of-way.,
the
right-of-way..
Are
they
in
the
right-of-way
or
are
they
in
the
right-of-way
or
the
property??
The
property?
they're
on
our
property.
they're
on
our
property.,
just
making
sure.
A
D
D
D
A
B
B
B
F
F
B
B
F
B
A
D
is
--
okay.,
any
other
questions?,
any
other
questions?,
jose
gelats:.
More
of
a
comment
jose
gelats:
more
of
a
comment
but
I'll
wait.,
but
I'll
wait.,
john
thompson:.
It's
your
turn.,
john
thompson:.
It's
your
turn.,
jose
gelats:
well,,
the
shed
jose
gelats:
well,,
the
shed
roof
over
the
door
to
the
shed
roof
over
the
door
to
the
shed
in
the
courtyard
based
on
the.
B
They
hit
each
other,
which
I
hope,
you'll
be
resolving
as
you
you'll
be
resolving
as
you
develop.
The
project.
develop.
The
project.
we'll
certainly
be
resolving.
We'll,
certainly
be
resolving
that
with
staff.
that
with
staff.
again,,
it's
not
good
to
lean
again,.
It's
not
good
to
lean
back
on
previous
projects,
but
we
back
on
previous
projects,
but
we
executed
well
in
that
regard,.
E
Apologies
for
that.,
jose
gelats:,
no
other
comments,
jose
gelats:,
no
other
comments
or
questions.
or
questions.
john
thompson:
you're
good?
john
thompson:
you're
good?,
jose
gelats:
yeah.,
jose
gelats:
yeah.
levy
nguyen:.
I
think
overall,
levy
nguyen:,
I
think
overall,.
I
think
it's
a
great
modern
and
I
think
it's
a
great
modern
and
economical
reinterpretation
of.
E
F
F
F
F
B
A
A
A
Down
other
storefronts
in
ybor,,
even
if
they
are,
you
know,
the
even
if
they
are,
you
know,
the
smaller
shops
in
a
larger,
smaller
shops
in
a
larger
building,,
you
have
a
continuous
building,.
You
have
a
continuous
awning.
awning..
You
have
kind
of
an
you,
have
kind
of
an
understanding
that
the
building
understanding
that
the
building
is
part
of
the
larger
street
is
part
of
the
larger
street
scape
and
there
a
symmetry
to.
A
A
Awning
continuous.
two,
I'd
make
the
doors
two,
I'd,
make
the
doors
symmetrical
in
some
fashion,
symmetrical
in
some
fashion,
instead
of
just
a
copy/paste
instead
of
just
a
copy/paste
to
--.
I
think
that
if
you
do
to
--,
I
think
that
if
you
do
that,
that
makes
the
building
that,.
That
makes
the
building
look
bigger
and
it
might
be.
A
Look
bigger
and
it
might
be
something
that
--.
I
don't
know
something
that
--.
I
don't
know
if
you're
going
to
consider,
if
you're
going
to
consider
building
this
in
such
a
way
that
building
this
in
such
a
way
that
you
can
remove
the
middle
wall,
you
can
remove
the
middle
wall
if
you
needed
to..
If
you
needed
to.,
it's
so
small
that
you
might
it's
so
small
that
you
might
have
a
successful,.
A
next
phase
and
next
phase.
and
that
type
of
storefront
and
that
type
of
storefront
allows
not
only
a
start-up
to
allows
not
only
a
start-up
to
get
going
but
allows
them
to
get
going
but
allows
them
to
scale.
scale..
So
I
imagine
that,,
you
know,,
so
I
imagine
that,
you
know,.
That
might
be
part
of
what
you
that
might
be
part
of
what
you
consider
on
the
interior
as
we
consider
on
the
interior
as
we
go.
Forward.
A
A
B
F
A
A
A
A
I
think
the
detailing
need
to
all
be
the
same,
because
it's
so
all
be
the
same,
because
it's
so
small
and
it
will
all
come
small
and
it
will
all
come
together
in
a
better
fashion
in
together
in
a
better
fashion,
in
that
particular
rendering,.
We
that
particular
rendering,
we
see
the
coping
and
see
it
see
the
coping
and
see
it
painted
out
with
everything.
A
A
A
A
You
--
we
can
delegate
to
that
on
how
it
will
be
guttered
and
on
how
it
will
be
guttered
and
down
spouted.pit's
such
a
small
down
spouted.pit's
such
a
small
small
area
that
you
can
probably
small
area
that
you
can
probably
have
one
down
spout
off.
The
back
have
one
down
spout
off
the
back
side
and
a
smaller
one
for
the
side
and
a
smaller
one
for
the
restroom.
restroom.
you're,
making
the
effort
to
you're
making
the
effort
to
break
up
the
backside
with
the
break
up
the
backside
with
the
trellis.
trellis..
A
A
B
A
B
B
B
far
as
the
facade
is
concerned.
the
continuity
of
it.,
the
continuity
of
it.
yeah.
yeah.,
the
goal
of
what
we're
doing
in
the
goal
of
what
we're
doing.
In
order
to
build
these
order
to
build
these
economically,,
they
will
be
economically,.
They
will
be
pre-fabricated,
offsite
and
pre-fabricated
offsite
and
brought
in
so
as
much
brought
in
so
as
much
construction
as
we
can
do
in
the.
B
Construction
as
we
can
do
in
the
factory,
we
like
to
do
as
much
factory,,
we
like
to
do
as
much
as
possible.
as
possible.
we'd
like
to
have
some
sort
of
we'd
like
to
have
some
sort
of
economies
of
scale
there
as
far
economies
of
scale
there.
As
far
as
structure
and
things
like
as
structure
and
things
like
that.
that..
I
think
the
opportunity
to
I
think
the
opportunity
to
connect
the
two
interior-wise
is.
B
Connect
the
two
interior-wise
is
smart
and
we
considered
that.
smart
and
we
considered
that.,
probably
more
of
a
window-type,
probably
more
of
a
window-type
connection.
In
case
there
seems
connection
in
case
there
seems
to
be
a
compatible
--.
We
have
to
to
be
a
compatible
--.
We
have
to
work
off
the
structure
because
work
off
the
structure,
because
in
order
to
get
these
transport
in
order
to
get
these
transport
today,
the
site
pre-fabricated,
we.
A
A
They
want
to
expand..
These
are
incubator
spaces.
To
these
are
incubator
spaces
to
launch
a
concept.
launch
a
concept.,
john
thompson:.
We
don't
have
john
thompson:.
We
don't
have
control
over
what
you
do
control
over
what
you
do.
Internally.
internally..
It's
just
a
point
of
question
on
it's
just
a
point
of
question
on
my
part
in
trying
to
understand.
A
A
A
A
A
Ofphasia
applied
on
site..
I
don't
think
that
that's
too,
I
don't
think
that
that's
too
far
to
go
and
it
get
you
where
far
to
go
and
it
get
you
where
you
want
to.
By
being
able
to
you,
want
to,
by
being
able
to
make
it
and
make
it
and
bring
it,
make
it
and
make
it
and
bring
it
and
set
it,
and
then
you're
done
and
set
it,
and
then
you're
done.
Then
you
know
you'll
be
trimming,
then
you
know
you'll
be
trimming
things
out
when
they're
on
site.
A
A
D
A
A
in
the
renderings.
It
shows
it.
in
the
line
drawings
it's
in
the
line,
drawings,
it's
different
and
the
applicant
different
and
the
applicant
indicates
it's
not
quite
up
to
indicates
it's
not
quite
up
to
speed
with
the
intent
of
the
speed
with
the
intent
of
the
design.
design..
Since
this
hearing
becomes
part,
since
this
hearing
becomes
part
of
the
record
that
ron
and
staff
of
the
record
that
ron
and
staff
can
rely
upon,,
it's
incumbent.
D
D
E
Drawing,,
it
would
be
important
to
clarify
that.
to
clarify
that.
john
thompson:
right.
john
thompson:
right.,
jose
gelats:
okay.,
jose
gelats:
okay.,
no
other
comments.,
no
other
comments.
levy,
nguyen:
based
off
the
levy,
nguyen:
based
off
the
rendering,,
I'm
sure
they
can
rendering,,
I'm
sure
they
can
work
with
staff
to
finish
out
work
with
staff.
To
finish
out
the
detailing
and
everything.
A
A
john
thompson:
okay..
My
comments
and
concerns
still
my
comments
and
concerns
still
stand.
stand..
I
think
that
the
types
of
I
think
that
the
types
of
procects
that
you
bring
forth
to
procects
that
you
bring
forth
to
the
commission
oare
great,
the
commission
oare
great,
because
it's
a
detailing
level
because
it's
a
detailing
level
that
requires
us
to
look
at.
A
A
A
E
With
that,,
we
need
a
motion
for
the
certificate
of
the
certificate
of
appropr
appropr
appropriateness.
appropriateness.
levy,
nguyen:
I'll,
make
one.
levy
nguyen:
I'll,
make
one.
move
to
grant
certificate
of
move,
to
grant
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this.
E
E
E
A
Construction
and
addition
standards.
standards.
john
thompson:,
we
have
a
john
thompson:.
We
have
a
motion
with
conditions.
motion
with
conditions..
Do
we
have
a
second??
Do
we
have
a
second?
eric
schiller:
second.,
eric
schiller:
second.,
john
thompson:?
We
have
a
john
thompson:.
We
have
a
motion
with
conditions
with
it,
a
motion
with
conditions
with
it,
a
second.
second..
Do
you
understand
the
conditions?
A
D
D
A
A
A
A
Presentation
that
we
have
on
the
record,
there
are
site
plans
record,.
There
are
site
plans
that
show
future.
Development.-
that
show
future.
Development.-
I
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we
I
want
to
make
sure
that
what
we
are
--
do
we
have
to
provide
a
are
--.
Do
we
have
to
provide
a
caveat
that
says
that
we
are.
H
Caveat
that
says
that
we
are
considering
only
the
proposed,
considering
only
the
proposed
current
development.-
current
development.-
camaria
pettis-mackle:
right.
camaria,
pettis-mackle:
right.-
you
can,
you
can
certainly
--
commissioners
can
certainly
--.
Commissioners
can
certainly
do
that..
Certainly
do
that.
you're
only
voting
based
on
the.
A
H
E
Was
made,?
You
can
certainly
do
that,
based
on
my
--,
the
legal
that,
based
on
my
--,
the
legal
department's
response.
department's
response.
levy,
nguyen:
okay.
levy,
nguyen:
okay.,
so
the
motion
only
applies
to
so
the
motion
only
applies
to
the
development
that
has
been
the
development
that
has
been
proposed
for
the
application
for
proposed
for
the
application
for
this
hearing
and
not
future.
H
Devel.
Development.-
development.-
john
thompson:
okay.
john
thompson:
okay.,
so
we
have
an
amendment
and
an
so.
We
have
an
amendment
and
an
amendment.
amendment..
Are
we
good??
Are
we
good?
camaria
pettis-mackle:?
Can
you
camaria
pettis-mackle:?
Can
you
state
for
clarification
purposes,
state
for
clarification
purposes,
the
applicant
acknowledges
or
the
applicant
acknowledges
or
understands
the
additional.
A
A
The
applicant
has
been
involved
with
the
amendment
of
the
with
the
amendment
of
the
motion.
motion.
couple
different
times.
couple,
different
times.
and
you
are
understanding
and-
and
you
are
understanding
and
accepting
of
the
conditions,
that
accepting
of
the
conditions
that
are
placed
on
the
project
as.
A
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Part
of
the
request
coming
forward.
forward.,
looking
currently,
if
you're
looking
currently,
if
you're
standing
here
back
at
the
site,
standing
here
back
at
the
site,,
you
have
this
empty
parcel
with
you.
Have
this
empty
parcel
with
trees.
trees.
natural
resources
did
come
out.
Natural
resources
did
come
out
and
comment
on
the
removal
of
and
comment
on.
The
removal
of
these
volunteer
trees.
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
G
Question
is
over
here..
This
is
as
I
indicated..
This
is
as
I
indicated..
This
street
dies
into
the
this
street
dies
into
the
interstate
as
you
go
to
the
interstate
as
you
go
to
the
north.
north.
and
as
you
look
to
the
south,
and
as
you
look
to
the
south,
property
in
question,
is
over
property
in
question
is
over
here.
here.
and
it
dies
into
the
back
of
a
and
it
dies
into
the
back
of
a
church
over
here.
church
over
here..
That
concludes
the
photo.
A
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
I'm
not
--,
it's
not
a
self-created
hardship,
hard.,
self-created,
hardship,
hard.
variance,
will
not
interfere
at
variance,
will
not
interfere
at
all
or
substantially
with
the
all
or
substantially
with
the
others
in
the
area
over
safety,
others
in
the
area
over
safety
or
welfare
or
other
properties.
L
Plan.,
the
variance
is
substantial.
The
variance
is
substantial
justice
to
the
public
as
the
justice
to
the
public,
as
the
benefits
will
allow
for
benefits
will
allow
for
development
and
sustainability,
development
and
sustainability
of
historic
district
and
(off
of
historic
district
and
(off
microphone),
as
well
as
taking
microphone)
as
well
as
taking
the
hardship
off
this
project.
A
There
is
not
really
much
to
say
about
it.
about
it.
john
thompson:,
john
thompson:
appreciate
you
reading
into
the
appreciate
you
reading
into
the
record
the
variance
--,
the
record,
the
variance
--
the
hardships
presented
in
this
hardships
presented
in
this
case.
case..
We
have
the
opportunity
to
have.
G
G
K
K
K
K
K
K
K
F
A
I
E
A
H
E
E
A
A
F
A
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
I
want
to
stay
the
weekend
downtown
instead
of
traveling
downtown
instead
of
traveling
back
to
wesley
chapel.
back
to
wesley
chapel..
This
is
not
something
I'm
going.
This
is
not
something
I'm
going
to
sell.
to
sell..
I'm
going
to
keep
this
for
I'm
going
to
keep
this
for
myself
and
be
a
part
of
ybor.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
the
hardy
board
as
stated.
the
windows.,
the
windows.
not
showing
the
double
hung,
not
showing
the
double
hung.
Windows.
windows.,
my
architect,
had
those
my
architect
had
those
opening
--.
He
--
he
labeled
opening
--.
He
--,
he
labeled
those
incorrectly.,
those
incorrectly.
they'll,
be
double
hung.
Windows
they'll
be
double
hung
windows
there
in
the
front.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
It's
a
really
simple
design..
This
is
a
house
I
just
built
in
this
is
a
house
I
just
built
in
st.
pete
a
couple
months:
ago.
st.
pete,
a
couple
months,
ago.
as
stated,.
I
like
the
square
as
stated,.
I
like
the
square
columns,
but
I'm
not
going
to
columns,
but
I'm
not
going
to
have
square
columns
here
on
this.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
G
I
guess
that's
all.
I
have
for
right:
now.,
right,
now.,
john
thompson:
thank
you.,
john
thompson:
thank
you.
ron,
vila:
commissioners,
ron
ron,
vila:
commissioners,
ron,
vila.
vila.
staff,
with
historic
staff
with
historic,
preservation.
preservation.
under
staff's
findings.
This
under
staff's
findings.
This
application
is
consistent
with
application,
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
city
design
guidelines,
the
ybor
city
design,
guidelines
with
the
following
conditions.
G
G
G
He
knows
that's
a
sensitive
treatment
and
through
treatment
and
through
construction,,
the
construction,,
the
materials
--
if
he
needs
to
materials
--
if
he
needs
to
remove
them
to
get
on
to
the
remove
them,
to
get
on
to
the
site,
to
palletize
them,,
to
site,
to
palletize
them,,
to
inventory
them
and
put
them
back,
inventory
them
and
put
them
back
and
to
emulate
any
additional
and
to
emulate
any
additional
material
that
needs
to
be
material.
That
needs
to
be
incorporated
into
that
historic
incorporated
into
that
historic
wall.
wall.
G
as
part
of
our
preliminary
as
part
of
our
preliminary
discussion,
water
retention
was
discussion,.
Water
retention
was
a
concern.,
a
concern..
He
did
provide
a
small
swell
in
he
did
provide
a
small
swell
in
the
back.,
the
back..
Why
we
look
at?
That
is
a
lot
of
why
we
look
at.
That
is
a
lot
of
times
at
your
design
drawings,
times
at
your
design,
drawings,.
We
don't
incorporate
that
far.
G
Times
when
the
pronelyects
go
to
permitting,,
we
get
examples
of
permitting,.
We
get
examples
of
small
depressions
in
the
front
small
depressions
in
the
front
yard,
which
are
atypical
to
any
yard
which
are
atypical
to
any
historic
district.
So
we
try
to
historic
district.
So
we
try
to
incorporate
the
water
retention,
incorporate
the
water
retention
on
site,
that's
complimentary,
to
on
site
that's
complimentary
to
the
historic
districts
in
this.
G
G
G
On
the
north
elevation,,
he
has
a
smaller
window,
which
you
see
in
smaller
window,
which
you
see
in
floor
plans
that
need
to
be
floor,
plans
that
need
to
be
sensitive
as
far
as
bathrooms,
sensitive
as
far
as
bathrooms
and
kitchens.
and
kitchens.,
this
particular
case,
the
window,
this
particular
case,,
the
window,
seems
a
little
wide.
G
seems
a
little
wide..
If
a
smaller
window
needs
to
be,
if
a
smaller
window
needs
to
be
incorporated,
I'd,
do
it
taller
incorporated,
I'd?
Do
it
taller
than
wider?
That's
shown
on
the
than
wider,
that's
shown
on
the
plans.
plans.
also,,
the
rear
door
just
shows
a
also,.
The
rear
door
just
shows
a
generic
door.
generic
door..
A
little
more
discussion
on
the.
G
L
G
G
One
of
the
positives
about
this
project.
Moving
forward
is
block.
Project
moving
forward
is
block
construction.
construction.,
so
the
installation
of
the
so
the
installation
of
the
windows
will
have
the
reveal
windows
will
have
the
reveal
that
we're
looking
for.
that
we're
looking
for.
a
lot
of
times
under
new.
G
A
lot
of
times
under
new
construction
when
it's
framed,
construction,
when
it's
framed,,
the
structures
are
very
flat
in
the
structures,
are
very
flat
in
this
particular
situation..
This
particular
situation..
The
windows
will
have
that
the
windows
will
have
that
inset.
inset..
That
concludes
my
portion
of.
A
A
E
L
E
A
A
L
A
I
have
the
plans
on
my
phone,
but
I
can't
--.,
I
can't
--.
john
thompson:.
We
don't
have
john
thompson:.
We
don't
have
any
purview.
any
purview.,
it's
just
for
us,.
It
would
be
a
it's
just
for
us,.
It
would
be
a
way
to
look
at
the
reasoning
for
way
to
look
at
the
reasoning
for
the
door
being
where
it
is.
A
the
door
being
where
it
is.
the
front
dr.
the
front
dr..
I
understand,
that,,
you
know,,
I
understand
that,,
you
know,
you're,
probably
fighting
to
get
you're,
probably
fighting
to
get
it
as
close
as
you
can
to
the
it.
As
close
as
you
can
to
the
center.
center.
in
this
particular
case,,
the
in
this
particular
case,,
the
example
show.
You
shows
that
example
show.
You
shows
that
door.
door.,
I
thnk
it's
a
little
bit.
Even
I
thnk
it's
a
little
bit,
even
though
it's
not
centered,.
A
There
is
a
way
to
scoot
that
door
over
just
a
little
bit.
door
over
just
a
little
bit.
over
more
to
the
left?
over
more
to
the
left?
john
thompson:
no.
john
thompson:
no.
more
towards
the
center,
although
more
towards
the
center.
Although
we
know
it's
not
going
to
be,
we
know
it's
not
going
to
be
centered.
centered.
if
it
just
occupies
that
middle.
A
A
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
way
it
looks.
it
looks.,
jose
gelats:
it's
in
between
jose
gelats:,
it's
in
between
both
columns.,
both
columns.
john
thompson:,
in
between
john
thompson:,
in
between
columns.
columns..
If
that's
a
consideration
that,
if
that's
a
consideration
that
you
can
do,,
that's
fine.
A
A
A
L
A
A
A
A
A
A
L
L
A
You
see
the
gutter.
this
down
spout.
this
down,
spout.,
it
will
sit
back
on
the
side
of
it
will
sit
back
on
the
side
of
the
house.,
the
house.
john
thompson:,
just
the
roof,
john
thompson:,
just
the
roof
configuration
you
have
that
configuration
you
have
that
you're
proposing
for
your
you're
proposing
for
your
project
is
different
than
that.
A
A
A
About
but
I'd
say
that
if
you
pick
up
the
main
roof
with
just
pick
up
the
main
roof
with
just
a
continuous
gutter
and
down
a
continuous
gutter
and
down
spouts
in
appropriate
locations,
spouts
in
appropriate
locations,
you'll
be
able
to
satisfy
the
you'll,
be
able
to
satisfy
the
criteria.
criteria..
What
we
don't
want
to
see
would
what
we
don't
want
to
see
would
be
down
spouts
and
stuff,
be
down
spouts
and
stuff
attached
to
those
columns.
A
A
A
A
Have
that's
on
the
facade
turns
into
that
--
into
the
depth
into
that
--
into
the
depth
you'll
have
with
the
block,
so
you'll
have
with
the
block.
So
the
detailing
is
correct
and
the
detailing
is
correct
and
that's
something
that
ron
can
that's
something
that
ron
can
help.
You
get
detailed
correctly.
A
Help
you
get
detailed
correctly.
if
you
already
--,
if
it
isn't,
if
you
already
--,
if
it
isn't
already
considered.
already
considered.,
it's
a
better
condition
than
it's
a
better
condition
than
whether
we
see,
like,
wood,
whether
we
see,
like,
wood,
framed
houses
and
the
windows
framed
houses
and
the
windows
sit
real
tight
to
the
facade.,
sit
real
tight
to
the
facade..
It's
not
a
good
look..
It's
not
a
good
look.
A
D
A
On
questions,
but
I
do
have
comments.
comments.
john
thompson:,
we're
still
on
john
thompson:,
we're
still
on
questions.
questions.,
so
you're
good?,
so
you're
good?,
jose
gelats:.
I
have
comments
jose
gelats:.
I
have
comments
but
not
questions.,
but
not
questions.,
john
thompson:,
based
upon
what
john
thompson:,
based
upon
what
you've
been
asked
in
the
you've,
been
asked
in
the
discussion.
Thus
far,
do
you
have
discussion?
Thus,
far,?
Do
you
have
questions
or
rebuttal
to
what
we.
L
A
I
D
D
D
Things
you
can
work
out
with
staff.
staff.,
just
the
scale
of
things
like
just
the
scale
of
things
like
thephasia
and
side
boards,
based
thephasia
and
side
boards,
based
on
the
drawings,.
It
seems
like
on
the
drawings,.
It
seems
like
they're
a
little
bit
undersized
they're
a
little
bit
undersized
or
perhaps
a
little
off.
D
or
perhaps
a
little
off..
I'd
like
to
add
into
the
motion,
I'd
like
to
add
into
the
motion
that
all
the
final
dimensions
of
that
all
the
final
dimensions
of
the
individual
pieces
that
make
the
individual
pieces
that
make
up
the
historic
components
of
up
the
historic
components
of
the
facade
are
approved
by
the
facade
are
approved
by
staff.
staff..
It's
a
little
hard
to
tell
from
it's
a
little
hard
to
tell
from
the
drawings.
D
the
drawings.
then
secondly,.
I
guess
more
then
secondly,.
I
guess
more
detail
about
the
stoop
to
the
detail
about
the
stoop
to
the
porch
stoop.
porch
stoop..
You
have
a
historic
condition.
You
have
a
historic
condition:
dat
we're
trying
to
retain,
but
dat
we're
trying
to
retain.
But
the
relationship
between
that
the
relationship
between
that
stoop
and
the
new
stoop
on
the
stoop
and
the
new
stoop
on
the
porch
are
very
important
as
well.
D
D
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
L
I
F
A
D
D
A
D
D
discussion
on
your
points?,
jose
gelats:
no.
jose
gelats:
no.
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
for
a
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
for
a
final
approval
to
grant
a
final
approval
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness,
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
presented
at
this
public
hearing,
and
this
is
blc
20-90
for
the.
D
D
D
D
A
On
the
site
are
in
keeping
with
the
patterns
found
throughout
the
patterns
found
throughout
the
historic
district..
The
historic
district.
john
thompson:,
I'd
like
to
john
thompson:
I'd
like
to
propose
an
amendment
to
your
propose,
an
amendment
to
your
motion,
which
would
include
the
motion,
which
would
include
the
down
spouts.
down
spouts.,
delegating
the
down
spouts
to.
A
Delegating
the
down
spouts
to
work
with
the
locations
and
work
with
the
locations
and
materiality
of
that.
materiality
of
that.,
jose
gelats:
accepted.,
jose
gelats:
accepted.,
john
thompson:.
We
have
a
john
thompson:.
We
have
a
motion
with
conditions
and
motion
with
conditions
and
amendment.
amendment..
Do
we
have
a
second??