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If
you're
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
suggest
being
thorough
but
concise
when
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details,
wall
sections,
staff
present
staff
report.
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We
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
your
as
the
presentation,
please
state,
and
spell
your
name.
Clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes.
So
take
some
time
now.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
public
comment:
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
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The
commissioners
will
then
discuss
the
case
and
will
make
their
decision
based
on
the
city
ordinance
chapter
27
of
the
city's
own
city,
zoning
code,
the
design
guidelines,
the
secretary
of
the
interior
standards,
design,
review
comments
and
the
testimony
given
at
this
public
hearing.
The
blc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
juris,
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
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Good
morning
to
mr
dennis
fernandez
manager,
just
one
item
to
address
today-
this
is
for
the
appointment
of
the
latino
commission
representative
development
corporation.
That
is
a
two-year
appointment
which
that
individual
represents
the
perspectives
of
the
barrio
latino
commission
on
the
ytdc
board.
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Oh
okay,
hopefully
that
got
picked
up.
As
I
said,
miss
welch
has
volunteered
to
serve
in
that
capacity.
If
that's
favorable
to
the
board,
we
would
need
a
motion
for
the
appointment.
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G
Seeing
them
for
the
record
additionally,
will
the
commissioners
please
state
on
the
record
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte
communications
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda
being
done
for
the
record?
Thank
you.
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Good
morning,
commissioners
ron
villa
I'm
staff
with
historic
preservation
moving
to
continuations.
We
have
one,
and
that
is
blc21-34
for
the
address
of
2910
north
10th
street.
This.
This
continuation
was
a
request
from
the
agent
to
continue
to
the
march
23rd
2021
public
hearing
at
9
00
am,
and
we
need
a
motion
for
that.
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C
Okay,
we
see
we
have
a
motion,
a
second
to
continue
blc
2031
to
the
next
hearing,
all
in
favor.
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If
I
could
get
the
thank
you,
I'm
going
to
go
through
a
quick
photo
presentation,
starting
with
the
sanborn
map.
Property
in
question,
is
here
in
the
in
the
shaded
green
area.
Obviously
this
is
from
1929.
There
was
a
single
family
structure.
That's
there.
You
see
the
setback
of
the
structure,
how
it
lines
up
with
the
abundant
properties
to
the
east.
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This
is
an
aeroshock
once
again,
it's
a
vacant
parcel.
There
are
some
trees
on
the
site.
This
tree
here,
as
a
oak
that
has
been
reviewed
by
natural
resources
and
the
plan
presented,
does
not
negatively
affect
this
tree
once
again.
This
is
the
alley
that
is
an
open
alley
that
runs
to
the
north
of
the
property
and
terminates
right
before
it
gets
to
the
nebraska
19th
avenue
and
nebraska
again.
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This
shows
the
traditional
brick
streets
with
the
granite
kirby.
As
you
look
towards
nebraska,
which
is
to
the
west,
this
is
looking
from
the
alley
back
into
the
subject
site.
This
is
the
tree
that
I
spoke
about,
that
natural
resources
reviewed
these
over
here
are
camper
trees
and
and
they
could
be
removed
if,
if
needed,
but
the
sighting
of
the
request
this
morning
does
not
call
for
that.
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A
Good
morning
I'm
ron
spohr,
I'm
the
ceo,
with
habitat
for
humanity
of
hillsborough
county
we're
proposing
to
build
a
single-family
home
on
the
site.
We
will
sell
the
home
to
a
eligible
applicant
at
first
I'd
like
to
say.
Mr
veal
has
been
extremely
helpful
and
he's
a
charger
for
the
city.
We
really
thank
him
for
the
information
that
he's
provided
to
us.
So
if
I
miss
anything,
it
won't
be
mr
villa's
fault
it
will
be,
it
will
be
mine.
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I
guess
I
want
to.
I
actually
took
some
pictures
with
mr
veal
to
present
presented
the
pictures
I
would
have
you
know
just
I
guess
in
the
pictures
that
I've
shown
just
kind
of
mentioned.
The
alley
is,
you
know,
overgrown,
not
particularly
desirable
for
vehicular
traffic,
so
we
designed,
I
would
have
loved
to
only
have
rear-loaded
access
to
the
house,
but
we
do
have
a
driveway
which
I'll
show
on
the
site
line
that
I'd
like
to
present.
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Set
the
house
13
foot
two
inches
back
from
the
property
line,
the
25
inch
oak,
that
mr
veal
reference
is
actually
it's
on
the
neighboring
parcel
to
the
east,
not
on
our
subject
parcel,
but
you
can
see
that
we
designed
the
house
to
avoid
that
root
system,
just
barely
avoid
that
root
system
I
mentioned
I
would
like
to
have
you
know
just
vehicular
access
from
the
back,
so
we
do
have
a
driveway
back
there,
but
I'm
really
not
certain
whether
the
homeowner
is
going
to
want
to
use
the
alley.
It's
it's
overgrown.
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It's
it's
not
lit.
As
far
as
I
could
tell,
and
it's
actually
fairly
uncomfortable
to
drive
that
alley
and
of
course
it
dead
ends
right
there.
So
I
don't
know
that
the
homeowner
will
use
that
back.
Rear-Loaded
driveway,
but
we'll
put
it
there
in
the
event
that
they
would
like
to.
We
did
put
a
brick
paver
on
brick,
paver
ribbon
driveway
in
the
front.
That's
one
space
and
it's
set
back
so
the
the
vehicle
can
be
behind
the
porch.
A
Next,
I'd
like
to
like
to
present
some
information
before
I
put
the
architectural
plans
up.
Just
some
note
notes
about
the
materials.
A
Which
will
make
more
sense
when
I
put
the
architectural
plans
up
in
a
minute
25
year,
fiberglass
roof
shank,
roof
shingles
b,
board
wood
paint
grade
soffit
attached
to
the
underside
of
the
roof,
decking
two
by
six
pressure
treated
exposed,
rafters,
the
pink
colors
to
follow
the
ebor
city,
color
palette,
exterior
wall,
hardy,
siding,
smooth,
finish
foundation
with
a
smooth,
smooth,
finish,
painted
all
doors,
wood
grade
I'll
show
some
samples
of
those
lighting
and
hardware
exterior
grade
black
and
the
trim
will
be
hardy
party
board.
Shroom
stay
all
the
stairs
are
concrete.
A
To
the
front
we'd
like
to
put
a
wood
white,
picket
fence,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
traffic
in
this
areas.
You
know
very
close
to
nebraska
there's.
If
you
go
to
the
lot
on
a
typical
day,
there's
there's
quite
a
lot
of
people
are
in
the
area
and
so
we'd
like
to
give
the
homeowner
some
privacy
by
the
way
the
lot's
been
vacant.
Since
I
guess
1993.,
we
did
acquired
a
lot
from
the.
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A
A
Hardy
plank
hardy
board
wood
siding
exposed,
rafter
tails,
we're
going
to
actually
try
icing
a
fully
vented
fully
icing
attic,
unvented
attic.
In
this
case
we
typically
use.
You
know
we
typically
always
do
vented
attics,
but
in
in
this
case
we
actually
wanted
to
try
a
nice
neat
attic
for
some
time.
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So
this
will
give
us
a
great
opportunity,
because
we
we're
not
going
to
have
the
ventilation
that
we
typically
would
without
the
you
know,
without
vented
sockets
and
probably
you
know,
make
the
house
look
a
little
more
architecturally
appropriate
without
ridge
van
as
well,
so
we're
gonna
try
the
icing
on
this
one
it'll
be
a
nice
benefit
for
the
homeowner.
A
We
we
actually,
we
build
energy
store
houses,
we're
very,
very
committed
to
energy
efficiency.
We
typically
hit
right
around
a
54
on
the
hertz
scale,
so
this
will
be
a
nice
opportunity
to
see
what
kind
of
benefit
we
could
even
get
from
icing.
So
that's
what
we're
planning
to
do
in
the
attic
we
do
have
a
decorative
front
vent
on
this
house.
A
A
A
Not
much
to
say
about
the
floor
plan
just
want
to
briefly
show
you
that
this
this
was
actually
adapted
from
a
house
that
we
built
in
over
by
the
garcia
cigar
factory,
we're
currently
building
it's,
not
it's
not
a
historic
district,
but
we
have.
We
have
a
couple
homes
going
over
near
the
garcia
cigar
factory
and
we
we've
tried
to
be
very
architecturally
compatible,
although
they
are
not
reviewed
by
the
historic
board.
So
we
had.
A
This
plan
is
actually
adapted
from
one
we're
doing
right
across
from
the
garcia
cigar
factory
it
that
one
did
actually
have.
It's
got
double
double
frontage
and
it
had
a
rear,
loaded
garage.
In
this
case,
we
would
have
liked
to
do
the
garage,
but
that
was
not
the
appropriate
in
this
district.
So
that's
exterior
storage
space,
and
just
so
you
know
it
can't
become
a
garage.
It's
it's
actually
for
the
concrete
in
that
storage.
Space
is
not
that
great.
It's
actually
poured
up
to
the
level
of
the
house.
A
So
there's
not
going
to
be
an
opportunity
to
turn
that
into
a
garage.
It
may
be
likely
that
at
some
point
the
homeowner
turns
it
into
a
living
space
if
they
permit
that
and
do
that.
But
for
now
it's
it's
it's
unconditioned
storage
space.
That's
his
three
bedrooms
and
two
baths.
The
house
is
about
give
or
take
1300
square
foot.
A
Example
of
the
soffit
and
the
b
board
exposed
two
by
six
rafters,
and
then
that
is
a
gutter
we'd
like
to
do
gutters
on
this
and
drain
the
property
to
the
front
to
19th
avenue.
That's
a
circular
gutter
actually
took
these
pictures
from
a
new
house
in
the
district
that,
as
far
as
I
could
tell,
was
done
very
well
on
10th
street.
So.
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D
Good
morning,
commissioners
ron
below
staff
with
historic
present
preservation
staff,
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
presentation
that
was
presented
this
morning
on
page
three
of
our
staff
report,
we
reviewed
the
plans
that
were
submitted
to
our
office
on
february
5th
2021,
and
there
was
about
10
conditions
that
were
associated
with
the
drawings
that
we
reviewed
and
speaking
with
their
team
that
presented
this
morning.
They've
addressed
all
the
items
of
concern
at
that
time
and
this
meets
the
evil
city
design
guidelines.
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Man.
C
B
Good
morning,
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Did
you
have
any
elevations
to
show,
or
maybe
from
the
adapted
floor
plan
from
the
previous
project
weren't
any
pictures
of
the
previous
project
just
for
us
to
get
an
idea
of
what
the
project
looks
like
from
the
exterior.
B
A
That
one
and
that
one
it's
a
little
more
traditional
it
has
vents
off
it.
It's
not
it's
not
done
to
these
to
these
standards.
We
think
it's
a
benefit
in
that
in
that
area.
It's
not
a
historic
district,
but
it's
a
it's
a
you
know.
We
think
it
contributes
well
to
the
neighborhood,
but
it
certainly
doesn't
meet
the
design
guidelines
proposed
here.
So
if
I
showed
that
picture
it
actually,
okay,
you
you
probably
wouldn't
like
it
as
as
much
because
you
know
it's
got
typical
vendors
off
it,
etc,
etc.
B
And
then,
where
was
the
the
condensing
unit,
the
the
concrete
pad
for
the
condensing
unit
located.
A
Yeah,
we
were
actually
gonna
put
that
on
the
west
side,
but
I
think
we're
gonna
have
to
put
that
on
on
the
in
the
back
on
the
north
side.
Okay,
because
there's
just
there's
it's
gonna,
be
so
tight
on
that
west
side.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
shift
that
and
put
that
in
the
back
all
right.
B
B
A
It
is
osb
sheathing,
which
is
of
course
not
seen
in
any
any
capacity
two
by
two
by
six
exposed.
Rafter
tails
b
board
is
shown
on
that.
One
picture
that
I
actually
took
of
a
house
on
tenth
street
that
I
think
had
done
a
pretty
quite
well
brand
new
house
on
10th
street.
I
think
they've
done
quite
well
be
bored
on
the
underside,
that
of
the
roof
deck
so
that
visible-
and
you
know
visible-
is
that
b
painted
b
board.
A
A
A
E
A
You
know
I
I
can't
read
it.
It
is
possible
that
this
that
he
used
a
cutout
section
from
a
you
know,
cut
and
paste.
It
will
certainly
not
be
venice
or
certainly
not
the
aluminum
defendants
off
it.
You
know
it'll
be
the
exposed
rafters
with
the
b
board
underneath
unvented
at
it,
with.
B
F
Thank
you
good
morning,
you
mentioned
during
your
presentation
that
you're
providing
gutters
there,
so
that's
going
to
be
on
both
the
lower
slopes
and
then
it's
going
to
drain
to
the
front.
What's
the
profile
of
the
gutter
that
you're
proposing
to
use.
F
A
half
a
half
round:
yes,
okay!
So
that's
historically
sensitive.
Okay,
I'd
like
to
jump
to
the
site
plan.
If
you
don't.
F
F
A
G
A
I'm
looking,
I
think
it
says
it's
just
a
touch
more
than
five
feet.
I
see
a
5.13
there
on
the
west
side,
the
east
side,
18.37
18.25,
the
front
again
is
based
on
that
black
face
average.
I
did
measure
all
the
homes
on
that
block
and
came
up
with
13.
You
know
13
foot
two
inches
to
the
property
line
on
the
front,
and
then
I
guess
that
leaves
just
just
a
little
less
than
30
feet
in
the
back.
A
You
know-
and
I
guess
I
should
mention
one
one
other
thing:
we,
we
flipped
the
house
from
what
we
originally
planned
right,
part
of
part
of
the
reason
we
weren't
planning
on
doing
this
ribbon
the
driveway,
but
we
really
don't
think
the
homeowner
is
gonna
just
gravitate
towards
this
back
out,
understood
yeah,
so
so
we
we
actually
have
to
with
we
put
the
ribbon
driveway
and
then
realize
we
really
need
to
flip
the
house
so
that
these
the
stairs
are
accessible
as
opposed
to
being
on
the
other
side,
the
stairs
are
going
to
be
on
the
other
side
which,
if
you've
got
a
ribbon
driveway
leading
up
to
you,
have
the
opportunity
to
have
your
stairs
right
there.
A
So
we
actually
we're
actually
mirroring
the
house.
So
I
I
propose
to
put
the
connecting
in
the
back
of
the
house.
F
Okay,
so
let's
talk
about
the
your
finished
floor,
elevation
there
is
45.89.
If
I'm,
how
does
that
work
with?
You
talked
about
block
averaging
for
setbacks,
a
staff
reviewed
or
you
work
with
staff
to
determine
what
that
setback
would
be.
You
average
that
block
of
the
other
contributing
structures
on
that
street
same
thing
for
how
high
that
is
off
the
street
is
that
working
off
of
a
block
block
average
or
how.
A
F
A
I
took
measurements
of
all
the
houses
I
do
have
that.
I
I
typically.
F
B
E
Hi,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
your
investment
in
the
historic
neighborhood,
absolutely
important
to
get
a
more
affordable
housing.
You
mentioned
that
you
flip
the
plan
and
that's
why
there's
a
dis
inconsistency
with
the
floor
plan.
You
showed
us,
but
when
I'm
looking
at
the
current
site
plan,
you
didn't
flip
it
when
you,
you
didn't
flip
the
garage
or
the
the
on
the
condition
space
if
you've
totally
flipped
the
plan.
Now
the
concrete
drive
is
against
the
west
property
line.
Is
that
correct.
A
E
D
E
E
E
Well,
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
better
because
visually
it
would
look,
perhaps
more
appropriate
if
the
drive
even
ended
in
the
opening
that
you've
provided
on
the
on
the
on
the
okay.
So
my
concern,
though,
is
is
the
elevations,
because
if
you
flipped
it,
then
the
elevations
as
you've
presented
them
to
us,
I
guess,
are-
are
reversed,
but
we're
it
just
seems
like
we're.
E
E
A
A
That
a
note
we
can
add
to
maybe
is
that
a
note.
Maybe
we
could
add.
C
C
The
in
the
site
plan
here
we've
got
the
porch
and
we've
talked
about
the
the
height
of
it,
which
is
fine
in
terms
of
the
conversation
that
we
need
to
have
you
know
to
make
sure
that
we're
averaging
out
with
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood,
you
have
the
the
step
up,
the
concrete
pad
and
the
steps
that
are
there.
Is
there
any
covering
for
any
of
those,
or
is
that
just
half
covered
by
the
by
the
two
foot
overhang.
A
I'm
sorry
the
the
the
step,
the
steps
any
covering
for
the
steps
on
the
side
of
the
house.
I
I
agree.
There's
not.
We
do
not
plan
for
a
separate
covering
for
those
steps.
C
C
This
image
would
be
mirrored
yes,
okay,
and
then
we
have
the
and
then
here
in
your
depiction,
I
think
your
stairs
actually
on
the
side.
Porch
are
shown
as
being
accessed
from
the
south.
Is
that
correct?
So
we
would
see
the
stairs
there
as
well
right
now,
you're
seeing
the
back
side
of
the
landing
in
this
elevation.
C
Okay,
so
that
would
flip
as
well.
Okay,
I
think
that
here
we've
got
what
do
we
have
a
a
gable
end
here
and
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
two
foot
overhang
there
for
the
for
the
shingle
roof?
Is
that
what's
happening.
C
A
A
C
C
Okay,
I
think
that
in
this
elevation
as
well-
although
it's
it's
not
one
that
is,
you
know
on
the
street,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
introduce
one
of
the
events.
I
know
it's
not
a
vented
attic,
but
I
think
that
you've
got
too
many
up
front
and
none
in
the
back
where,
if
it
were,
you
know
a
vented
attic,
you
would
be
trying
to
get
all
the
cross
ventilation
through
the
through
the
space
there.
So
I
think
you
can
consider
adding
that.
C
C
Okay,
I
think
that
you've
you've
got
a
lot
of
the
pieces
and
parts
of
what
you're
looking
for,
but
as
as
has
been
mentioned,
you
know
it's
not
it's
not
all
one
cohesive
picture
that
we're
looking
at
so
far,
so
we're
trying
to
understand
it
and
and
be
able
to
perhaps
appropriately
condition
what
what
is
going
forward
so
that
we
can
have
a
good
discussion
and
give
staff
what
they
need.
C
I
think
that
the
fro,
from
my
point
of
view,
the
the
on
the
north
and
the
south,
that
little
two
foot
band
there
with
the
extra
with
the
extra
gable
or
the
the
rafter
tails
is,
is
just
decorative.
I
mean
that's
not
how
the
trusses
work.
That's
not
how
it
goes
it's.
I
think
you
can
solve
that
with
some
banding
beautiful,
and
I
think
that
it's
it's
kind
of
a
historic
in
in
trying
to
incorporate
those
pieces.
C
We
talked
about
that.
Okay.
I
appreciate
your
help
in
walking
us
through
that
you
have
the
opportunity
to
rebut
any
of
the
comments
that
you've
heard,
or
you
know,
provide
additional
insight
before
we
close
the
public
hearing
and
discuss,
discuss
the
cases
commissioners,
but.
A
No,
no
rebuttals.
I
actually
appreciate
your
critique.
You
made
some
great
suggestions.
You
know
our
goal
is
to
make
it
the
best
it
can
be.
We
want
to.
We
want
to
we
actually
at
the
end
of
this
we
want.
We
want
the
barrio
commission
to
say,
hey.
We
we'd
like
for
habitat,
to
build
another
house
in
our
you
know
in
our
area,
because
they
follow
our
guidelines.
They
do
a
nice
product
so
that
that's
certainly
our
objective.
So
I
appreciate
all
your
comments.
B
E
C
Yeah
agreed,
I
mean,
I
think,
that
we
we've
gotta,
we
we
need
to
be
able
to
craft
something
that
would
allow
staff
to
be
able
to
to
continue
on
with
it
without
us,
seeing
it
again
or
come
back
to
it.
I
mean,
in
my
opinion,
the
you
know.
The
plan
is
is
what
it
is.
I
think
that
the
a
number
of
the
inconsistencies
are
just
mirroring
things
massing
in
scale,
I
think,
is
appropriate.
C
I
would
like
to
see
those
the
the
north
and
the
south
little
raptor
tales
taking
off
and
go
to
a
more
you
know,
historic
reference
with
a
with
a
band
I'd
even
like
to
see
at
the
entries
at
the
side
entries
and
the
back
piece
the
opportunity
to
work
with
staff
on
something
that
was
historical,
historically
sensitive
in
terms
of
what
would
be
a
secondary
covering
for
those
injuries,
especially
on
the
backside,
so
that
you
know
you
had
a
little
bit
of
protection
for
those
openings
and
they
just
start
out
there,
especially
on
that
north
end,
yeah
getting
rain
just
driven.
E
Did
I
understand
correctly,
this
is
the
first
project
in
the
historic
district
for
habitat,
yes,
okay,
so
yeah!
Hopefully,
if
it
moves
forward,
then
you,
the
organization,
would
be
able
to
develop
a
packet
of
details
that
they
could
use
as
a
pattern
book
as
they
consider
more
projects
in
their
neighborhoods.
So
absolutely.
B
F
F
I
agree
with
john
over
you
know
those
overhangs,
the
rafter
tails
on
the
north
and
south
sides
aren't
needed
they're,
not
consistent
with
the
historic
district,
there's
other
solutions
that
you
can
use
over
the
double
doors
in
the
side
door
to
protect
those
openings.
There's
a
lot
of
standard
craftsman,
style,
historic
details
of
a
separate
structure
or
extending
the
the
root
structure
there
to
cover
those
doors
yeah.
F
B
C
I
think
that
the
I
think
that
the
flipping
of
it
is
just
a
function
of
you
know,
that's
how
it's
going
to
be,
and
so
it's
the
question
of
how
much
more
detailing
do.
We
want
to
see
agreed
it's
it's,
it's
not
a
complete
package
in
terms
of
what
we
would
want
to
see
going
forward
and
we've
worked
with
other
builders
in
the
district
to
keep
refining
their
approach,
not
only
to
what's
built
but
what's
presented
so
that
we
can.
You
know,
work
with
you
to
keep
moving
forward.
C
E
If
I
could
ask
the
applicant,
I'm
leaning
towards
giving
you
a
continuation
with
some
clear
guidelines,
is
what
we'd
like
to
see
and
then
you
can
develop
the
drawings
that,
hopefully,
you
can
use
for
a
future
project.
The
neighborhood
would
that
additional
month,
where
you
have
to
reappear
first,
throw
the
project
off
tomorrow.
G
Attorney's
office
yeah,
so
I
I
hear
the
discussion
from
the
commissioners-
and
I
so
first
in
regards
to
your
suggestion
about
a
continuance
it's
up
to
the
applicant
on
whether
or
not
they
want
to
consider
a
continuance.
C
C
Okay,
now
we're
open
again.
So
we
can
ask
you,
you
hear
the
conversation
that's
going
on
we're
trying
to
figure
out,
which
is
the
best
way
to
move
it
forward.
One
would
be
to
say:
you've
heard
what
we've
had
to
say
today,
please
you
know,
revise
the
plans
come
back
to
us
with
you
know,
with
the
comments
that
you've
heard
here
addressed
in
a
future
hearing.
C
We
want
to
see
if
that's
a
something
that
you
would
entertain
or
do
you
want
the
up
and
down
or
kind
of
the
other
motion
that
we
can
make,
which
is
to
say
we
can
condition
it
and
send
it
to
staff,
or
you
know
that
could
fail
as
well,
and
you
know
you
have
you:
have
the
ability
to
have
the
commission
create
a
motion
that
you
know
goes
forward
today
or
not
so
you
have
the
you,
have
the
choice
to
have
to
have
the
continuation
or
you
can
require
us
to
vote
today
on
your
application.
C
The
I
think
that
the
only
you
know
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
your
in
terms
of
what
you
might
have
to
in
endure,
which
would
be
you
know,
revising
plans
for
the
comments
that
you're
that
you
hear
today.
Making
you
know,
coordinating
with
your
design,
professional
and
being
able
to
come
back
and
present
that
potentially
creates
a
burden
to
an
user.
F
I
was
going
to
comment,
I
mean
we
may
not
not
even
need
to
go
to
a
continuance.
I
mean
what
happens
if
we
do
a
preliminary
approval
with
certain
conditions
and
make
him
you
know,
so
he
can
keep
moving
forward.
Make
those
conditions
apparent,
update
the
drawings
come
back
to
us,
and
you
know
it's
not
that
complicated
of
a
project
which
I
I
know
preliminary
approvals.
F
C
A
preliminary
allows
them
to
take,
for
example,
a
larger
project
and
understand
that
they
do
have
a
preliminary
and
they
just
have
to
iron
out
some
details.
Yours
is
a
smaller
project,
but
the
conversation
that
you're
hearing
is
there's
some
details
that
we
want
to
get
ironed
out
and
the
question
is:
does
the
commission
want
to
see
them
again
or
are
we
comfortable
with
conditioning
it
so
that
staff
can
deal
with
it
and
and
handle
those?
As
you
know,.
A
A
Yeah,
I
mean
I
mean
truthfully.
The
work
for
me
is
the
same.
I'd
be
happy
to
come
back
here
on
march,
23rd
and
and
literally
my
office
is
a
block
away
I'll,
be
happy
to
come,
come
back
here
and
and
show
the
revised
plans.
We'd
have
to
revise
them
anyway.
So
I
really
don't
think
it's
additional
work.
If
you
want
me
to
come
back
on
march,
23rd
I'd
be
very
happy
to
it'll,
give
us
a
month
to
revise
them,
and
I
know
what
you
want.
So
I
think
you'll
have
it.
B
G
And
is
camaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
sir,
is
that
is
that
what
your
your
desire
is
is
to
ask
for
continuance.
A
Of
respect
for
the
committee,
I
think
you've
made
a
lot
of
good
points
and
I
do
think
that
the
plans
you
know
we're
a
little
lacking
in
the
fact
that
I'm
saying
yeah
I
got
to
flip
them.
So
I
think
it's
it'd
be
very
respect
for
us
to
make
the
revisions
that
you
suggested
for
us
to
come
back
here
march,
23rd
on
a
continuation,
and
I
think
you'll
be
pleased
at
that
time.
C
Okay,
either
that
or
or
preliminary
with
conditions
yeah.
I
think
that
that's
the
spirit
of
what
we're
after,
but
I
will
leave
it
to
okay,
so
we're
good,
so
we'll
close
the
public
hearing
again.
Okay,
thank
you
and
any
further
discussion
amongst
the
commissioners.
Or
does
somebody
want
to
make
a
motion.
F
F
Staff,
so
we
could
enter
that
into
the
record,
but
they
opted
for
a
continue
so.
C
I
think
well
to
be
to
be
fair.
I
I
think
that's
important,
but
I
think
a
preliminary
would
would
give
the
the
applicant
a
little
bit
more
certitude
so
that,
if
the
composition
of
next
time
comes
around
that
we
don't
have
to
you
know
wonder
whether
or
not
this
was
appropriate
for
masking
and
scale
and
character.
We
just
want
to
see
some
additional
details.
C
I
think
that
I
think
the
preliminary
with
conditions
that
we
want
to
see
ironed
out
is
is
more
of
kind
of
where
we're
headed
and
in
you
know,
reaching
out
to
you
to
say
we
want
to
help
this
process
go
forward
for
you
on
this
project
as
well
as
future
projects.
I
think
that
that
speaks
to
kind
of
where
we're
at
as
a
commission
rather
than
just
come
back
and
see
us.
G
Maria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
sir,
and
I
know-
and
I
want
to
make
sure
this
is
clarified
for
the
record.
Are
you
you've
heard
the
discussion?
Can
you
please
clarify
on
the
record
if
you're
asking
for
continuance
or
if
you're
understanding,
what
the
commission
is
saying
about
a
preliminary
approval
with
conditions
we,
the
applicant,
has
asked
for
a
continuous.
I
want
to
make
sure
for
due
process
reasons.
A
I,
like
the
the
suggestion,
the
preliminary
approval
and
then
I'll
come
back
on
the
23rd
to
share
the
clarified
details.
Okay,.
A
B
B
Good
morning,
mr
dennis
fernandez,
architectural
review
and
historic
preservation,
manager,
so
march
23rd
and
9
a.m
would
be
the
date
of
the
next
public
hearing.
I
just
want
to
remind
the
commissioners
that
when
you
do
preliminary
approval
and
that's
issued,
they
used
to
be
very
specific
in
what
items
you
want
the
applicant
to
bring
back
because
the
project,
if
not,
if
those
items
are
not
referenced
in
your
motion,
then
they're
presumed
to
be
approved.
So
anything
that
you
that
you
mention
in
your
motion
is
what
the
staff
will
be.
F
If
we're
going
to
switch
back
and
forth
that
we
show
some
documentation
on
the
block
averaging
on
the
setbacks
of
of
that
building,
specifically
where
that
dimension
is
taken
from
it
could
be,
you
know,
take
it
from
the
stairs
or
could
it
be
taken
from
the
porch,
but
it
should
be
the
porch
I'd
like
to
some
additional
documentation
on
the
finished
floor,
height
of
what
we're
seeing
on
that
street
clarification
on
the
gutters
that
they
will
be
half
rounds,
location,
a
final
location
of
the
ac
unit
and
regarding
the
site
plan
that
concrete
strip
that
leads
to
the
double
doors
that
that's
coordinated
on
the
site
plan
with
the
floor
plan
and
also
I'd
suggest,
showing
some
kind
of
roof
covering
or
awning
over
the
single
door
and
the
double
doors
on
the
rear.
E
B
F
The
wall
section
shown
the
rafter
tails
and
the
window
recess
and
the
trim
detail
and.
B
F
B
If
the
house
is
going
to
have
a
stem
wall-
and
I
haven't
been
able
to
tell
from
what
I
saw
here-
but
I'm
supposing
it
is-
oftentimes-
we've
required
the
applicants
to
express
what
the
finish
is
going
to
be
as
far
as
fulbright
or
whatever.
We
need
to
take
a
look
at
the
piers
and
the
detail
of
those
yeah.
F
And
clarification
of
the
stemwall
conditions
of
how
far
the
siding
goes
down,
so
a
complete
wall
section
from
top
to
bottom
detailing
the
v
board
on
the
exposed,
rafter
tails,
all
the
way
to
take
that
down
to
the
the
ground
show
your
slab
on
grade.
So
it
just
needs
to
be
more
specific
to
this
project.
F
Okay
to
the
march
23rd
public
hearing
at
9
00
a.m,.
C
We
have
a
motion
with
conditions.
Do
we
have
a
second?
Second?
We
have
two
seconds.
We
have
a
preliminary
motion
with
conditions.
Does
the
applicant
understand
the
motion
and
the
conditions
attached
they're
in
yes,
okay,
very
good,
so
all
in
favor
of
this
motion
and
its
conditions,
any
opposed,
see
you
next
time.