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A
A
B
I'm
offended
okay,
let's
carry
on
with
the
meeting
today
we're
back
from
brooke
we're
gonna
move
on
to
case
blc
t21-03,
mr
bila.
C
C
C
Miss
pharaoh
will
share
of
those
pictures
with
us,
it's
very
heavily
on
the
picture
side.
The
presentation,
so
at
this
time
I'm
gonna
hand
it
over
to
her.
D
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
ron.
Let's
see,
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
historic
district
map
showing
us
where
the
president.
C
A
D
Well,
good
still
it's
good
morning,
and
my
name
is
stephanie
farrell
and
I'm
here,
representing
1619
east
8th
avenue,
which
is
located
in
the
heart
of
the
historic
district
on
the
north,
facade,
faces
eighth
avenue
and
I'm
going
to
continue
with
a
site
plan
which
shows
you
very
clearly
that
the
building
the
property
we're
talking
about
is
a
zero
lot
line.
Building.
D
Pre-Rehabilitation
plans
you
can
see
the
first
floor
was.
It
was
most
recently
an
open
plan.
It
was
used
for
basically
office
uses.
The
stair
is
not
original
the
front
stairs
not
original,
nor
is
the
rear
stair
there.
There
is
a
mostly
original
beam
which
we'll
see
later
in
photographs,
original
wood
columns
which
have
been
repaired.
I
believe
the
front
one
was
actually
replaced
to
match
the
original.
D
The
second
floor
had
been
divided
into
offices
and
meeting
rooms,
with
a
conference
room
up
front
and
and
then
again
this
this
two
stairs
were
not
original
and
then
the
roof
we'll
see
the
elevator
tower,
which
we'll
we'll
we'll
revisit
as
we
look
at
the
photographs
of
the
building.
D
So
this
is
the
the
plans
just
to
kind
of
orient
you
for
as
you
as
you
look
at
the
photographs
again,
the
ground
floor
will
will
continue
to
remain
one
open
space
with
support
functions,
including
restrooms
and
the
elevator.
There
will
be
a
new
elevator
in
the
existing
elevator
shaft,
so
that
is
historic
material
that
will
be
maintained.
The
second
floor
will
have
sort
of
an
open
plan
layout
with
glass,
partitions,
glass
and
drywall
partitions.
Some
some
demeltable
partitions
as
well
and
the
front
area
will
continue
to
be
a
conference
room.
D
The
coming
up
to
the
roof
area.
You
see
that
there
is
the
elevator
shaft
comes,
has
been
extended
to
a
tune,
approved
rear
deck
at
the
back
of
the
building
and
we'll
see
that
as
we
progress
through
the
photographs.
So
this
is
the
front
facade
as
before
the
rehabilitation
began
and
what's
important
about
this,
and
this
building
was
built
in
circa
1926.
It's
a
very
plain,
two-story,
brick
vernacular
building.
It
was
built
for
mercantile
uses,
initially
a
furniture
store
and
then
later
on
in
its
history,
a
grocery
warehouse.
D
So
it's
a
more
simple
building
than
we
see
on
seventh
avenue,
so,
what's
important
character,
defining
wise
the
character,
defining
features
include
the
original
opening,
although
not
the
original
storefront,
the
original
masonry,
with
the
tinted
mortar,
a
stepped
parapet
and
steel
pivot
windows,
which
are
original
to
the
building.
There
was
historically
a
canopy,
but
this
is
not
the
original
canopy.
This
was
constructed
by
the
previous
occupant.
D
In
about
2005-
and
we
now
will
see
the
building
as
it
exists
today
and
again,
the
original
storefront
opening,
which
actually
may
have
had
some
other
functions.
Historically,
we
don't
know
exactly
what
the
original
storefront
looked
like,
but
this
the
wood
storefront
that
we
see
here
is
a
repaired
version
of
the
of
the
previous
photograph.
D
D
This
is
the
rear
of
the
building
along
the
alleyway.
This
is
obviously
at
the
base
of
the
building,
and
you
can
see
there's
a
lot
of
you
know:
mismatched,
mortar
and
cracking
and
and
so
forth,
and
that's
pre-rehab,
and
this
is
that
same
view-
post-rehabilitation
repointing
in
evidence.
D
This
is
the
rear
of
the
elevator
tower
pre-rehabilitation,
and
then
this
is
the
same
view
with
the
with
the
masonry,
repointed
and
obviously
continuing
to
use
the
tinted
mortar.
D
This
is
the
east
facade
and
you
can
see
a
major
crack
in
evidence
pre-rehabilitation
and
then
this
is
that
same
wall
with
the
with
the
crack
repaired
and
selective
re-pointing
as
needed.
Here
we
are
up
on
the
roof,
looking
north
mechanical
equipment
and
evidence
pre-rehab.
D
This
is
the
same
view
with
the
new
deck
and
and
railing
again
looking
north
and
a
similar
view,
we're
looking
southwest
towards
the
alley
and
the
original
elevator
tower
and
the
similar
view
of
the
elevator
tower
extended
and
the
deck
of
the
new
decking
in
the
foreground.
So
moving
to
the
interior.
D
I
mentioned
when
we
were
looking
at
the
floor
plans
that
that
it
was
based.
Basically,
there
was
one
large
open
space
on
the
on
the
ground
floor
and
interior
wise.
There
was
very
little
in
the
way
of
finish.
In
fact,
we
see
we
saw
no
evidence
and
ron,
and
I
spent
more
than
a
couple
hours
there
looking
at
look
looking
and
seeing
to
see
if
we
could
find
any
any
evidence
of
plaster
either
on
the
ceiling
or
on
the
on
the
existing
brick
walls,
and
that
none
was
in
evidence.
D
This
is
that
same
space
today,
so
you
can
see
it's
a
very
handsome
space.
The
masonry
walls
remain
and
have
been
repointed.
The
concrete
floor
has
been
patched
and
infilled
as
needed,
but
remains
concrete,
and
then
you
can
see
the
exposed
floor.
Joists
above
and
a
very
subtle
approach
to
the
air
conditioning
system
and
and
simple
contemporary
fixtures
light
fixtures.
There
were,
of
course,
no
original
light
fixtures
in
the
building
when
the
when
it
was
acquired.
So
here
we
are
in
that
same
space,
looking
towards
looking
north
towards
the
storefront.
D
It's
a
little
rough
there,
but
here
are
the
original
columns
and
and
the
mostly
original
beam
and
and
obviously
duct
work
that
had
been
installed
by
the
previous
owner.
This
is
the
stair
that
I
mentioned.
That
was
not
original
and
we
did
investigate
to
see
whether
or
not
there
was
any
original
fabric
and-
and
we
confirmed
that
there
was
no
original
fabric,
although
the
original
stair
may
have
been
there
it's.
This
is
not
the
original
stair.
D
So
here's
that
same
space,
post,
rehab.
D
And
here's
the
stair,
the
non-original
stair
pre-rehabilitation
and
here
is
the
entry
to
this
sort
of
leading
up
to
the
stair
post
rehabilitation
and
then
we'll
see
the
steer
by
the
way,
here's
the
canopy,
which
is
the
continues
to
be
bead
board
and
it's
painted
bead
board.
Now
so
moving
up
the
stair
or
looking
up
the
stair,
you
can
see
the
the
newly
constructed
code
compliant
stair,
leading
to
the
second
floor,
and
here
we
are
a
close-up
view.
Pre-Rehab
of
the
storefront-
and
here
is
a
similar
view.
Post-Rehab.
D
Here
we
are
up
on
the
second
floor
and
this
is
the
elevator
shaft.
It's
it's
painted
brick
painted
by
a
previous
owner
and
again,
the
shaft,
of
course
remains
the
lands,
the
tile
ceilings
have
been
removed
and
so
forth,
and-
and
this
is
this
a
similar
view
today
with
the
elevator
put
in
use
and
some
re-pointing
here,
but
still
a
little
rough,
but
you
can
see,
there's
a
wood
floor
and
laying
ceiling
in
this
rear
portion
and
then
on
the
second
floor.
D
This
is
a
view
looking
north
towards
the
front
facade
on
and-
and
this
is
this
is
actually
the
former
conference
room
in
the
distance
and,
as
you
can
tell
none
of
these
partitions
nor
the
wood
trim
was
original
to
the
building.
D
This
is
a
similar
view,
looking
towards
the
towards
the
front
facade,
and
you
can
see
the
wood
floor.
Some
demand
demountable
partitions
in
the
foreground,
the
roof
framing
exposed.
Above
here
we
are
looking
at
one
of
the
interview
rooms
that
was
part
of
the
pr,
the
prior
use
of
the
building.
So
you
know
pretty
pretty
rough
space
really
then,
and
then
here
we
are
looking
enough.
Looking
at
the
same
general
area,
post,
rehab.
D
And
we're
looking
here
we're
looking
south
on
the
second
floor
and
there
was
a
lay
in
ceiling
which
had
been
removed
so
you're,
seeing
the
framing
here,
which
obviously
that
was
that's,
also
been
removed.
Subsequently,
and
here
the
2000
circuit
2005
partitions,
which
now
are
replaced
with
the
combination
of
demountable,
partitions
or
and
and
a
few
drywall
partitions
with
with
glazed
infill.
D
D
D
D
And
this
is
that
same
view,
today,
very
handsome,
very
functional
sort
of
subtle
approach
to
renovating
this
very
simple
vernacular
style
building,
and
here
we
are
back
on
the
ground
floor.
This,
I
think,
is
a
cover
magazine
cover
photo
of
this
beautiful
space
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
all
might
have.
C
The
avalon
process
is
a
preservation
tool
that
is
used
on
certain
buildings
when
the
owners
and
their
team
wishes
to
take
the
building
back.
It's
usually
a
more
aggressive
budgetary
request
to
go
back
and
you
know,
treat
the
building
with
respect
early
on
staffs
involved.
With
the
project
we
meet
out
at
the
site
numerous
times
to
provide
guidance
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
a
lot
of
times.
There
is
some
fabric,
that's
left
behind.
C
Sometimes
there's
not
a
lot
of
fabric
that's
left
behind,
but
through
our
forensic
research.
You
know
we
look
at
the
columns
that
are
there
we
look
at
the
flooring.
We
look
at
the
volume
some
paint
colors.
We
get
into
some
just
details
on
the
walls,
the
ceilings
which
are
very
important
in
recreating
these
buildings
in
a
sensitive
manner.
So,
as
I
stated,
this
was
not
the
easiest
project
to
move
forward,
but
it
does
meet
the
secretary
interior
standards
as
presented.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
villa.
Does
anyone
here
from
the
public
would
like
to
comment
on
this
case?
Seeing
none
we'll
the
commissioners
will
ask
questions
of
the
applicant
starting
with
mr
schiller.
A
D
F
Just
one
quick
question
the
ground
floor
space
is
shown
on
this
drawing.
Is
it
just
going
to
remain
the
sort
of
open
plan?
Yes,.
D
D
B
I
just
have
one
question
on
the
front
facade
high
up
on
the
brick
near
the
parapet.
Yes,
they
look
like
there's
a
change
in
materials,
a
brick
up
there
was
there
signage
there
at
one
point
in
time
or
what
what
happened
up
there?
It
looks
like
you
guys,
repointed
it,
but
didn't
really
change
the
use.
Do
you
have
any
historical
data.
D
I
don't,
I
don't
see
any.
Let
me
just
look
at
the
before
and
after
here's
the
before
we
have
image,
there
may
have
been
a
sign
there
and
if
there
was,
I
don't
have
any
historic
photographs
of
it.
We
actually
did,
as
you
might
imagine,
we
did
do
a
fair
amount
of
research
and
and
looked
hard
for
photographs
of
this
building,
but
since
it
was
off
not
on
7th,
you
know
there's
not
a
lot
some.
Some
of
these
very
simple,
more
vernacular
warehouse
type
buildings.
D
You
know
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
early
photography
and
this
one
just
didn't
happen
to
be
photographed
not
at
least
not
as
we
could
find
and
then,
of
course
here
it
is
in
the
rehab,
and
I
do
see
that
ghosting
that
you're
talking
about,
but
I
don't
know
what
that
might
have
been.
B
Okay,
one
other
question:
do
you:
why
do
they
split
that
beam
in
the
front
like
when
it
comes
through
just
to
grab
the
storefront.
D
Well,
that's
a
good
question,
but
it
was
done
by
a
previous
owner.
So
I
I
really
don't
know
I
mean
there
is
some
evidence
if
you
look
at
the
pre-rehab
image
again,
if
you
look
at
the
sidewalk
and
you,
you
could
see
that
the
that
that
there
was
a
depression
only
on
this
one
side,
which
led
me
to
speculate
without
any
further
evidence
that
there
might
have
been
an
overhead
rolling
door
here,
since
it
was
basically
kind
of
warehouse,
type,
grocery
warehouse
for
sure
and
furniture
store.
D
B
D
I'm
happy
to
be
here
and
and
look
forward
to
the
next
one.
So
great.
B
B
A
Okay,
we
don't
have
any
conditions
right.
I
can
be
pretty
clean.
That's
what
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
for
the
I
move
to
grant
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
is
that
okay,
I'm
on
the
wrong?
Thank
you
all
right
move
to
approve
the
ad
valerium
tax
exemption
application.
A
Part
two
for
the
plans
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
case
number,
blct
21-03
for
the
property
located
at
1619,
east
8th
avenue,
ybor
city,
historic
district
for
the
rehabilitation
of
this
property.
A
C
C
The
primary
house
is
indicated
in
the
yellow
box.
Excuse
me
the
green
box
that
faces
15th
avenue.
There
is
an
alley
at
that
time.
There
was
a
partial
alley
that
that
terminated
at
a
couple
properties
to
the
east
and
I'll
show
you
how
that
alley
has
been
elongated
and
now
it
functions.
For
this
whole
block
michigan,
which
is
now
columbus
drive,
is
to
the
north.
You
have
17th
street
to
the
west
and
you
have
18th
street
to
the
east.
C
This
is
the
overhead
shot.
The
air
probably
in
question
is
in
this
green
box.
Here
it
does
face
the
inner
interstate
and
it
does
face
15th
avenue.
This
is
the
alley
that
I
spoke
about.
The
city
had
an
initiative
to
go
ahead
and
create
this
alley.
The
houses
to
the
across
the
alley
to
the
north
face
columbus
drive
and
these
parcels
are
very
difficult
to
come
on
to
to
to
gain
access.
So
the
alley
was
an
important
part
and
mr
gibbons,
that
was
here
earlier
he's.
C
He
has
three
different
houses
that
are
here.
So
the
alley
was
an
integral
part
of
bringing
you
know
info
construction
to
this
area.
I
wanted
to
share
with
you.
This
was
from
19.
Excuse
me
from
2012
the
condition
of
the
house
that
the
owner
now
took
upon
himself.
C
C
C
Moving
around
to
the
back.
You
have
just
these
smaller
windows
that
flank
their
rear
door.
You
have
some
light
fixtures
here
and
you
see
the
hardware
in
the
door.
That's
on
the
rear
elevation,
just
looking
from
from
the
alley,
the
other
one
was
a
little
tighter
shot
and
then
the
condition
of
the
alley
that
has
traveled
every
day
in
both
directions.
C
This
is
some
of
the
infill
that
I
spoke
about.
This
is
across
the
alley
to
the
north,
so
you
you
see
that
the
alley
is
just
not
you
know
part
of
the
grid,
it's
it's
something
that
is
used
on
a
daily
basis,
so
the
the
introduction
of
the
alley,
spurred
on
the
development.
G
G
So
this
is
the
current
house
15
streets
along
the
front,
I'm
looking
to
build
a
24
by
24
detached
garage
in
the
back
of
the
alley
set
14
feet
off
with
a
driveway.
G
The
setbacks
will
be
four
feet
on
all
sides:
there'll
be
a
16
foot
garage
door
on
the
on
the
front
of
the
garage
facing
the
alley
with
the
rear
door
to
gain
access
to
the
back
of
the
house.
G
G
Gable
in,
as
you
can
see,
there
will
be
the
rear
door
six
panel
to
match
the
existing
door
on
the
rear.
C
Villa
thank
you
rich
ron,
villa
staff,
with
historic
preservation,
stats
finding
that
this
application
is
consistent
with
the
eboor
city
design
guidelines.
In
reviewing
the
request
on
page
three,
I
had
some
conditions.
C
Austin
went
through
the
majority
of
the
conditions
through
his
presentation.
I
just
wanted
to
touch
upon
a
couple
more.
The
primary
structure
has
a
very
steep
pitch
roof
and
the
goal
of
staff
was
for
the
accessory
structure
to
be
consistent
with
the
pitch
of
the
primary
structure
in
reviewing
the
garage
door
on
the
rear.
C
At
times
there
is
a
two-car
garage
door
that
it
that
is
provided,
but
they
make
some
that
have
a
heavier
mall
in
the
middle.
So
when
the
door
is
closed,
it
appears
to
be
two
separate
doors
but
functions
as
one
there's.
Sometimes
there's
difficulty.
If
you
put
a
structure
mold
there,
then
it's
difficult
to
get
into
each
space.
So
that's
a
way
that
we
have
found
success
with
separating
the
doors
or
appear
to
be
separated
with
that
center
mall.
C
I
did
indicate
on
the
plan
that
if
he
was
going
to
put
any
fencing,
I
spoke
to
him
earlier
and
fencing
is
something
that
he's
not
thinking
about
at
this
time,
but
that
is
a
function
that
we
could
do
administratively.
So,
although
he
didn't
show
a
function
today,
if
it
comes
back,
we
will
assist
him.
B
Seeing
none
will
turn
to
questions
of
the
applicant
by
the
commission,
starting
with
mr
schiller
on
my
right
section.
G
I
do
not
have
one
currently,
but
it
will
be
standard
wood,
framing
2x4
with
plywood
the
vapor
barrier,
then
six
inch
novelty,
wood,
siding.
G
So
these
will
be
scored
concrete.
I
think
they'll
be
probably
four
or
five
feet
on
center,
depending
what
looks
appropriate
when
we
pour
it.
F
F
B
Okay,
I
have
a
question
for
it's
kind
of
related
to
staff,
but
also
the
applicant.
The
house
was
built
in
1916
the
house
that
I
understand
that
you
relocated
there.
It
wasn't
originally
there
and
but
it's
a
non-contributing
structure.
So
the
primary
structure
on
that
parcel
is
a
non-contributing
structure,
even
though
it's
from
the
period
of
significance.
C
I'll
touch
upon
that
ron
villa
with
staff
when
I
started
working
with
the
city
about
20
years
ago,
that
block
was
very
compromised
and
that
structure
probably
took
the
lead
on
being
one
of
our
worst
examples
of
something
that
was
not
been
cared
for.
So
I
think
when
they
did
the
survey,
although
that
the
structure
was
built
within
the
periodic
significance,
it
lost
some
of
its
luster
and
its
architectural
charm,
so
it
was
non-contributing
at
that
time.
Internally,
with
staff,
we
are
talking
about
bringing
that
structure
back
to
a
contributing
status.
So
we
don't.
C
We
don't
lose
that
fabric.
That
structure
was
never
relocated.
There
was
just
always
in
a
deteriorated
state,
so
this
young
man,
I've
been
working
with
him,
probably
four
or
five
years
now
and
little
by
little
he
brought
the
primary
structure
up,
as
these
young
professionals
are
moving
back
into
the
area,
they
need
automobile
storage.
So
this
is
more
and
more
of
some
of
the
the
requests
that
we
see.
B
G
Structure
I'll
make
it
match,
as
ron's
previously
stated.
I
think
it's
a
6
to
12
pitch,
but
I
drew
it
as
a
4
to
12.
B
Okay
but
you're
going
to
map
you're
going
to
match
that
and
what's
your
overhang
on
the
proposed
garage.
G
B
Okay,
I'm
okay
with
that
and
then
the
door
I
mean
I
think,
going
to
that
issue.
It
matches
the
primary
structure,
so
I
think
there's
some
more
leeway,
but
maybe
we
go
to
a
two-panel
door.
That's
a
little
bit
more
historically
sensitive.
F
B
Think
that
would
be
better
use.
I'd
like
to
talk
about
the
garage
door,
the
center
milling.
Is
it
one
panel
that
opens
up
or
they're
two
separate
door
panels
that
open
up?
What's
the
reasoning
for
the
thickened
mall
at
the
center.
G
B
Too
separate,
but
I
think
ron's
made
the
comment,
suggestion
that
it
would
probably
historically
wise
break
up
that
large
door
expanse
by
putting
a
larger
mole
in
make
it
look
like
two
smaller
doors,
but
it'd
be
one,
and
I
I
think
this
excuse
me.
This
is
a
better
example
too.
Instead
of
having
the
rounded
glass
at
the
top,
the
square
would
be
more
period
significant,
so
I'd
prefer
for
you
to
head
in
that
direction.
G
D
B
Okay,
that's
all
I
have
for
questions
anyone
else
with
a
follow-up.
You
have
a
few
minutes
to
summarize
any
comments
or
rebut
any
of
the
questions.
B
Okay,
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
any
discussion
among
the
commissioner,
starting
on
my
left.
F
No,
it's
a
very
straightforward
project.
I
I
know
that
normally
we
would
see
in
a
in
a
two-car
garage.
We
prefer
two
separate,
but
given
that
the
alley
has
been
modified
and
these
are
sort
of
tighter
conditions
and,
more
importantly,
that
it
faces
the
back.
I
think,
as
long
as
the
applicant
finds
a
garage
door,
that
that
appears
to
be
more
traditional
and
appears
to
be
a
series
of
panels
that
it's
completely
acceptable.
B
Okay,
can
we,
I
guess,
there's
some
clarification
needed
by
the
applicant
that
the
these
things
that
we
discussed
you
said
you're
going
to
match
the
roof
slope
and
then
that
the
garage
door
you'll
go
with
the
square
windows
with
a
larger
center
mall.
So
you've
agreed
to
that
okay
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
entertain
a
motion.
F
I'll
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion.
This
is,
for
a
final
approval,
move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
vlc
21-161
for
the
property
located
at
1708
east
15th
avenue,
because,
based
upon
the
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
city
design
guidelines
with
the
following
conditions
that,
as
discussed
at
the
public
hearing,
the
apple
can't
match
the
the
pitch
roof.
Some
shall
match
that
of
the
existing
house.
F
The
final
garage
door
will
be
approved
by
staff
based
on
a
more
historically
appropriate
design
that
the
applicant
submit
a
wall
section
and
that
the
applicant
consider
a
different
door
on
the
rear
of
the
proposed
structure
because
then,
based
on
the
findings
effect.
It's
consistent
with
the
uber
city
design,
guidelines
for
the
city
of
tampa,
because
it's
appropriate
size,
site
placement,
scale,
massing
and
use
of
materials.
A
E
B
The
record
show
that
the
applicant
agrees
with
the
conditions
stipulated
all
in
favor
of
said
motion,
say:
aye
aye,.
F
B
B
C
C
There
are
two
requests:
you're
correct,
first
they're
going
to
touch
upon
the
variants,
and
I
had
asked
the
agent
to
move
on
that
first
and
then,
if
the
variances
have
as
a
favorable
outcome,
then
they
could
get
into
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
C
There's
some
past
action.
In
march
in
2017
there
was
a
non-contributing
structure
that
was
there
that
caught
fire
and
it
was
ultimately
removed,
and
then,
in
the
same
year
in
november,
on
2017,
this
board
approved
a
four-story
mixed-use
building
at
that
time
and
that
structure
had
no
variances
attached
to
it.
C
Moving
through
the
photo
presentation,
starting
with
the
sanborn
map.
This
is
dating
back
to
1929.
The
red
indicates
brick
construction.
The
blue
you
see
speckled
through
here,
is
concrete
block,
and
then
you
see
the
yellow,
which
is
frame
construction
so
more
in
the
commercial
core.
You'll
see
the
masonry
units
that
take
precedent.
C
C
17Th
street
that
runs
north
and
south
to
the
west.
You
have
18th
street
to
the
east
and
at
this
time
in
1929,
the
alley
went
the
whole
way
from
street
to
street
from
east
to
west.
C
So
this
is
looking
from
evolve
and
you
see
some
of
the
demolition
that
was
taking
place
at
that
time.
This
is
8th
avenue,
which
also
has
the
trolley
tracks
on
it,
and
then
you
have
16th
street,
excuse
me
15th
street
and
then
16th
to
the
east,
and
you
see
the
challenges
with
the
alley
how
it
terminates
into
central
e
board.
C
This
is
looking
back
at
the
site.
Currently,
it's
just
a
vacant
parcel.
The
alley
in
the
background,
does
still
access
this
portion
of
of
the
lot
and
you
have
multi-level
buildings
on
each
side,
and
then
you
see
the
trolley
tracks
in
the
foreground.
This
is
looking
at
the
budding
property
to
the
west.
C
C
And
the
termination
of
the
alley,
so
the
site
is
over
here.
This
is
the
unimproved
alley
and
then
how
the
alley
terminates
into
central
e
board
at
this
time.
Mr
whaling
addressed
the
board
for
the
variance
portion.
Only
thank
you.
Oh
one,
more
thing:
everybody
that
wishes
to
testify.
Please
stand
up
and
raise
your
right
hand
to
get
sworn
in
as
well.
This
will
be
our
last
warrant,
swearing.
H
Thank
you
ron
good
afternoon.
My
name
is
greg
whaling.
I'm
the
authorized
agent
on
the
project.
It's
a
pleasure
to
to
be
able
to
be
back
in
front
of
you
on
presenting
a
project
for
this,
this
property.
H
H
It
was
a
a
four-story
structure,
mixed
use,
retail
and
residential
on
the
ground
floor,
apartment
residential
studio
units
for
floors,
two
through
floor
four,
since
this
time,
based
on
the
extensive
residential
development
that
has
occurred
in
and
around
ebor,
the
challenges
that
we'll
start
to
talk
about
in
the
variance
request
for
this
particular
site
has
made
it
impractical
to
develop
as
a
residential
site.
So
those
plans
were
abandoned
and
now,
some
three
years
later,
we're
exploring
new
options
for
the
for
the
property.
H
The
intent
is
to
keep
the
initial
design.
I
believe
the
board
had
uni
unanimously
approved
the
look
and
the
layout
of
the
project.
It's
the
intent
that
that
major
form
and
architectural
detail
will
carry
over
into
what
we're
proposing
the
project
team
is
comprised
of
mr
darryl
shaw,
the
property
owner.
H
H
Mr
eric
grizbalski
he's
with
me
here
today.
If
there
are
any
technical
questions
in
terms
of
the
construction,
they
have
been
practicing
in
ybor
city,
they
own
property,
caddy
corner
from
this
project
site.
So
the
entire
team
is
a
very
interested
and
very
enthusiastic
about
what
we're
presenting
today.
H
H
H
Cutting
to
the
the
hardship
criteria
that
that
you
know
we
need
to
satisfy
to
be
able
to
move
this
project
forward.
H
I
will
not
read
all
this
at
this
point,
but
we'll
kind
of
paraphrase
it
as
we're
going
through
each
of
the
items,
so
the
first
one
being
hardship,
practical
difficulties
are
unique
and
singular
with
respect
to
the
property
or
the
resp
or
with
respect
to
the
structure
in
the
building
thereon.
H
So
that
plays
a
very
critical
role
in
what
we're
presenting
today.
Having
studied
all
the
lot
layouts,
not
only
in
the
yc1
district,
but
pretty
much
across
the
board,
the
entire
historic
district.
This
property
is
completely
unique.
H
As
ron
had
shown
on
his
his
previous
overview,
this
is
a
picture
of
the
site
that
had
previously
been
developed
with
a
two-story
building.
H
H
H
Just
jump
back
so
another
aspect
about
this
site
now
now
bear
in
mind
that
l
shape
is
literally
the
only
l-shaped
site
of
that
configuration
in
all
of
ybor
city
so
specifically
to
yc1
it's
it's
an
anomaly.
H
So
what
we're
we're
asking
for
in
terms
of
a
variance
is,
is
a
height
requirement
and
to
explain
how
that
kind
of
plays
into
things
we'll
take
a
look
at
what
the
the
euclidean
zoning
parameters
are
on
it.
Basically,
in
terms
of
setback,
we
have
no
issue.
It's
zero
foot
on
all
all
sides,
front
side
and
rear
in
terms
of
the
floor
area
ratio
it's
at
3.25
and
then
the
height
is
limited
to
45
feet,
tall
plus
5
foot,
parapet
extension,
just
kind
of
a
quick
overview
on
on
floor
area
calculation.
H
H
H
This
is
the
the
building
massing
that
we're
asking
for
with
the
four
floors
based
on
that
height
limitation
it.
Well,
let
me
keep
going
here.
H
We
studied,
if
you
actually
did
three
floors
on
that,
that
portion
of
the
site
in
order
to
to
meet
the
current
height
requirements
that
would
reduce
the
far
on
this
site
to
2.45,
and
it's
really
just
not
feasible
to
to
develop
that
site.
When
you
start
getting
floor,
area
ratios
below
the
3.0.
H
It
also
puts
the
the
florida
floor
heights
with
three
at
15
foot
florida
florida
floor.
We
like
that
that
that's
more
in
range
with
what
we
think
commercial
construction
would
would
need
to
be
on
this
site,
but
it's
just
not
practical
from
a
square
footage.
H
The
tampa
comprehensive
plan.
This
property
is
dedicated
as
umu
60.
So
it's
a
urban
mixed
use,
60
foot
tall
allowance
in
the
tampa
comprehensive
plan
that
also
includes
the
5
foot
for
the
parapet
projection
as
well
as
some
other
features
that
we'll
we'll
be
going
over
with
that
with
the
full
60
foot
request
that
too,
with
a
four-story
building
would
put
floor
floor
heights
at
15
foot.
H
However,
as
we
abut,
the
adjacent
properties
to
the
east
and
west
we're
highly
restricted
to
either
no
windows
or
using
kind
of
a
premium
cost
expensive
fire
rated
glass
on
those
sides
on
the
rear
of
the
property
due
to
its
location
and
separation.
By
that
10
foot
alley
we're
limited
to
25
percent
windows
on
on
that
facade.
H
H
The
purple
glass
envelope
is
the
tampa
comprehensive
plan
and
then
what
we
are
proposing
is
kind
of
floating
in
the
middle,
so
we
feel
like
we're
not
pushing
the
limits.
All
the
way,
we're
only
asking
for
what
we
think
is
reasonable
for
the
use
of
this
building,
as
well
as
the
the
adjacent
properties,
one
property
over
the
corner
of
centro
ebor
measures,
approximately
between
57
and
58
feet
above
the
sidewalk
level.
H
So
that's
really
kind
of
the
basis
of
our
design
is
matching
that
parapet
height
of
our
proposed
structure,
with
with
central
ibor
now
bear
in
mind.
That
is
a
three-story
building.
It
was
originally
developed
as
theater
space,
and
so
the
volumes
and
the
way
that
that
space
broke
up
was
was
a
little
bit
different
than
what
what
we're
proposing.
H
Our
proposal
also
includes
these
extension
features,
two
stairs
that
would
go
to
the
roof
as
well
as
the
elevator
core,
and
we
have
a
structure
for
solar
panel
attachments
per
code.
All
those
projections
can
only
go
up
to
a
20
percent
of
the
total
roof
coverage.
So
that's
that's
what
we're
indicating
on
this.
H
In
addition,
due
to
some
variance
notification
issues,
I
guess
you
would
say
we
had
fully
intended
to
to
propose
a
roof
deck
as
well
on
the
roof.
There
were
some
issues
that
we
had
in
terms
of
how
we
noticed
and
our
intent
is
that
the
deck
and
the
handrail
would
be
under
the
the
surrounding
parapet
wall
so
in
terms
of
height
limit
you're,
not
going
to
see
this
from
parapet
level
down.
H
What
would
be
extending
above
that
height
is
we
have
two
future
restrooms
that
we
would
like
to
consider
at
another
time.
So
you'll
see
some
of
that
in
the
presentation,
but
we
fully
expect
that
if,
if
we
are
granted
approval
on
this,
we
would
come
back
to
clarify
and
clear
up
those
items.
C
Greg
ron
villa
with
staff,
you
need
to
try
to
summarize
the
variance
portion.
H
H
So,
in
terms
of
of
the
hardship,
the
property
itself,
I
think,
is
obviously
unique
and
singular.
There's
no
other
property
that
is
in
this
configuration
that
has
limitations
by
the
trolley
that
has
no
layout
area
around.
It
has
a
dead
end,
unimproved
alley
behind
it.
That
will
ultimately
end
up
being
part
of
any
project
that
gets
done
on
on
this
site.
H
These
difficulties
are
not
brought
about
by
by
the
owner
by
this
project,
they're
inherent
to
the
site
itself
in
terms
of
this
interfering
with
the
injury
or
that
the
health,
safety
or
welfare
of
others
we'll
be
speaking
to
this
aspect
upcoming.
But
as
part
of
this,
we
plan
on
improving
that
alley.
That
ally
right
now
is
the
secondary
egress
for
five
or
six
buildings,
one
of
which
is
centro
eboard.
So
you
have
the
potential
for
in
an
emergency
a
lot
of
people
exiting
out
through
that
space.
H
We
feel
it's
in
harmony
with
the
tampa
comprehensive
plan.
We
showed
the
kind
of
the
bubble
diagram
of
the
massing
and
how
we're
asking
for
something
that
we
feel
is
just
scale
appropriate
with
the
neighborhood
matching
the
existing
fabric
of
8th
avenue,
we're
not
maxing
out
up
to
60
feet,
but
we
are.
We
do
need
more
than
the
the
45
base
to
be
able
to
get
this
commercial
building
in.
H
The
quality
of
this
building
that
we're
proposing
in
this
area
is
going
to
be
an
enhancement
to
to
ivor
city
and
then,
finally,
that
the
project
isn't
is
consistent
with
design
standards
compatible
with
the
historic
fabric
again
moving
forward.
I
have
a
number
of
drawings
and
details
and
3d
model
to
show
that
the
the
details
that
we're
proposing
are
in
harmony
with
with
the
surroundings,
and
I
hope
that
you
would
look
on
this
project
favorably
and
that
we
could
go
on
to
the
next
step
of
looking
at
those
those
details.
H
After
approval
of
this
variance
hardship
with
that,
I
conclude.
C
So
at
this
time
he
submitted
the
information
into
the
record
dealing
with
the
variance
of
this.
At
this
time.
He
shows
some
massive
models.
Take
that
into
consideration
as
well.
C
The
language
is
what
also
the
hardship
criteria
has
been
put
in
everybody's
packet
for
you
to
follow
along
or
if
you
want
to
look
at
a
little
more
information
staff
usually
doesn't
comment
comment
on
variances,
but
if
the
variance
is
approved,
we
have
one
caveat
there
that
he
showed
four
stories
that
went
up
at
the
front
facade
on
eighth
avenue,
and
maybe
there
could
be
some
relaxation
that
the
upper
floor,
the
fourth
floor,
be
recessed,
so
the
overall
massing
at
the
street
level
doesn't
seem
to
be
as
as
as
high
as
initially
drawn
I'll,
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
C
I
I
I've
met
previously
with
the
contractor
and
the
architect
and
they've
been
very
accommodating
and
available.
So
my
main
concern
is
storm
water.
As
you
mentioned,
the
alley
ends
in
centro
ebor.
There's
these
french
drain
structures,
which,
in
my
view,
are
not
sufficient
to
train
that
area.
It
appears
that
most
of
the
water
from
9th
avenue
drains
into
that
alley
between
8th
and
9th
and
when
we
get
storm
events
well
and
also
a
lot
of
the
owners
around
there
have
have
put
pavers
air
conditioner
pads
decks
within
the
alley,
creating
impervious
surface.
I
B
You
for
your
comments.
Thank
you
appreciate
that
we're
going
to
go
we're
going
to
stay
with
the
same
procedure
that
we're
going
to
so
the
commissioners
can
ask
the
applicant
for
additional
information
questions
on
their
application,
for
the
variants
start.
Mr
schiller.
A
A
A
If
you
can't
do
it,
you
can't
do
it,
don't
do
it,
but
I
just
I
just
don't
see
any.
I
don't
see
any
hardships
here.
You
wrote
all
kinds
of
crap
and
none
of.
A
E
H
I
think
what
we're
presenting
is
a
true
improvement,
a
true
asset
to
ebor
city,
the
owner.
The
development
team
is
spending
all
kinds
of
time,
energy
and
money
in
presenting
options
to
increase
and
develop
this
empty
lot.
On
eighth
avenue,
it's
consistent
with
the
the
entire
street
fabric
of
central
ibor,
all
the
way
down.
Eighth
avenue-
I
mean
again,
it's
I'm
an
architect,
it's
my
professional
opinion
that
this
is
in
keeping
with.
H
What's
in
the
neighborhood,
I
have
examples
of
other
buildings,
just
south
of
7th
avenue,
hcc's
collaboration
studio,
the
new
masonite
building
both
are
four-story
buildings.
Both
are
at
that
55
to
60
foot,
parapet
height
level.
H
So
you
know
it's
my
opinion
that
this
is
in
keeping
it's
a
subjective.
What's
not
subjective
is
that
we're
matching
heights
and
patterns
and
development.
H
Details
within
the
neighborhood
within
the
the
district
specific
to
eighth
avenue
and
so.
C
H
A
One
of
the
questions
that
I
have
and
refresh
my
memory
there
is
excuse
me
there
was
an
issue
in
the
garage
where
garages
were
built
as
far
as
the
height.
What's
that
and
it
put
us
in
jeopardy
of
our
historical,
my
concern
is:
if
we
go
so
high
I'd
have
to
do.
I
got
to
think
about
it
because
my
question
is:
if
we
go
too
high,
is
it
going
to
put
us
in
jeopardy
in
our
historical
classification,
but
there's
a
formal
name
for
it?
Not
historical
classification.
E
Mario
pettis
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
so,
commissioner,
welsh,
what's
important
during
your
discussion,
is
whether
or
not
the
applicant
has
presented.
You
know
the
hardship,
the
the
hardship
and
that's
your
criteria
that
the
board
has
to
consider
at
this
moment
is
whether
or
not
the
applicant
has
met
the
hardship
criteria
for
the
variant
request.
A
F
Yes,
sorry
about
that
very
thorough
presentation,
very
clear
what
you're
requesting
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
I
heard
you
correctly
because,
typically
for
a
variance
when
they
come
before
us,
we
try
to
give
the
what
you're
actually
asking
for
what
you're
actually
going
to
build
too
and
I
it
says
you're
going
from
45
to
60
with
five
feet
for
per
roof.
But
I
heard
that
your
building's
going
to
end
at
52.
F
C
When
this
project
run
view
of
stafford
historic
preservation,
when
this
project
came
in
at
the
time
that
he
needed
to
advertise,
they
advertised
to
from
45,
which
he's
allowed
to
in
the
yc1
zoning
classification
to
60..
Since
then,
we've
been
in
discussion
and
he's
trying
to
cut
out
some
of
the
height
to
the
overall
massing
for
the
structure.
C
C
He
has
additional
structures
that
are
up
there
and
he
might
bring
those
at
a
later
date.
But
I
would
keep
this
discussion
to
what
was
advertised,
what
he's
entitled
to
what
he's
advertised
for
and
to
look
at
the
unique
and
singular
portion
of
this
parcel,
and
he
has
to
put
substantial
and
competent
evidence
into
the
record
to
meet
that
criteria
for
the
board
to
review,
to
see
if
extra
hype
should
be
granted
at
this
particular
site.
C
C
Or
less
if
he
wants,
if
he
wants
to
put
that
additional
information,
if
he
could
cut
out
some
of
the
height,
that's
fine,
but
with
with
the
documentation,
the
verbal
documentation
that
was
provided
and
the
written
documentation
that
is
submitted
into
the
record,
that's
where
you
should
put
your
energy
okay!
Thank
you.
B
I
have
a
couple
questions,
so
I
see
photovoltaics
up
on
the
roof.
What
size
is
that
system
and
how
much
of
the
building
is
powered
by
that.
H
H
B
Okay,
quote:
item
number:
three:
on
your
hardship
criteria
for
the
variance
it
says,
the
variance
if
granted,
will
not
substantially
interfere
with
the
injury,
injure
health,
safety
or
welfare
of
those
of
the
property
be
affected
by
the
allowance
of
the
variants,
so
you're
adding
another
floor.
You
want
a
variance
to
add
a
floor.
Would
that
increase
capacity
of
the
number
of
occupants
in
that
building.
H
H
G
H
So
that's
why
the
fourth
floor
is
being
requested,
but
in
terms
of
the
the
the
health
safety
and
welfare,
we
really
see
the
the
aspect
that
improving
that
alley:
improving
the
storm
drainage,
it's
unimproved,
it's
you
can't
walk
back
there,
it's
hills
and
potholes
and
there's
bushes
and
ac
units
in
it
we're
working
with
solid
waste
to
be
able
to
recess
all
of
our
trash
containers
within
the
building
or
within
a
recessed
portion
of
the
courtyard
wall.
B
And
I
one
more
question
for
you,
so
you
have
one
of
your
adjacent
property
owners
for
a
contributing
structure.
Now,
there's
your
immediate
neighbors,
there's
five
buildings.
I'd
say
that
are
well
six
of
which
include
centro,
but
four
of
them
are
contributing
structures.
Have
you
received
any
feedback
from
them
on
your
variance
request,
as
appears
to
me
that
your
proposed
60-foot
height
is
significantly
higher
than
mr
danny's
two-story,
building
to
the
to
the
east
than
the
rock
brothers
to
the
west
to
the
the
old?
B
I
don't
know
what
they
call
that,
the
one
on
that
that's
on
fifth
avenue
and
then
the
two
buildings
they're
all
low
two-story
buildings
there
I'm
wondering
if
you've
had
any
feedback
or
comments
from
those
property
owners
of
why,
if
they
would
be
okay
with
you
requesting
this
variance
for
adding
another
15
feet
of
height
to
their
area
of
that's,
got
primarily
contributing
structures
structure
in
it.
H
Sure,
okay,
so
to
to
answer
your
question,
we
have
only
received
calls
from
the
owner
and
the
tenant
of.
I
don't
know
if
we
can
pull
this
up,
but
let
me
see
if
I
can
go.
H
We
received
calls
from
this
building
owner
and
the
tenant.
That
is
it's
currently
a
restaurant,
a
cereal
bar.
They
were
questioning
how
we
were
handling
solid
waste
removal
other
than
that
they
to
my
knowledge,
they
were
were
fine
with
with
the
development.
H
To
also
to
clarify
we,
we
noticed
at
the
60
foot
just
to
be
able
to
accommodate
the
unknowns
of
what
we
were
asking
for
we're
only
asking
for
what
and
what
we're
presenting
today,
seven
foot
difference
of
what's
allowed.
B
Okay,
any
other
questions
for
the
applicant.
We're
gonna
go
ahead
and
you
have
a
few
minutes
that
you
want
to
summarize
your
position,
your
project,
any
rebuttal
to
the
questions
that
were
asked.
H
I
mean
we
have
so
much
information.
It's
you
know
an
hour's
worth
of
details
of
looking
through
maps
to
find
similar
samples
of
properties
like
this
in
yc1,
where
you
have
frontage
on
8th
avenue
or
7th
avenue,
you
usually
have
large
lots
behind
it.
You
usually
have
some
access,
whether
it's
no
trolley
directly
in
front
of
the
property.
H
All
the
properties
that
line
the
trolley
are
either
fully
developed
or
they're
substantial
blocks
that
have
layout
area
around
them.
They're,
not
this
one
isolated,
infill
project,
that's
l-shaped
that
you
have
to
build
your
way
out
of
a
20-foot
section
of
the
site
to
take
advantage
of
just
the
base
floor
area
ratio
of
the
3.25,
we're
not
asking
for
more
floors,
because
the
floors
by
right
can
be
built.
We're
not
asking
for
reduced
setbacks.
Those
by
right
are
are
being
adhered
to.
H
We're
simply
asking
for
the
fact
that
for
commercial
space,
where
you
need
a
little
bit
of
flexibility
in
there
to
be
able
to
reposition
walls
and
room
layouts
that
the
floor
to
floor
heights
would
be
12
foot
8,
which
is
what
we're
asking
for.
If
you
were
building
this
building
in
any
other
non-historic
district
non-governed
by
by
height
you'd,
be
building
it
easily
14
foot
floor
to
floor
to
be
able
to
accommodate
mechanical
plumbing
systems
in
a
building
like
this,
so
we
have
paired
it
down
to
12
foot
eight
floor
to
floor
for
those
heights.
H
H
I
I
conclude,
but
I
have
lots
of
information
showing,
but
by
the
way
let
me
just
pull
one
more
thing
up,
because
you
had
a
question
in
regards
to
some
of
the
other
buildings
in
reference
in
the
the
parking
garage
and
its
extensions
on
my
screen.
If
you're
able
to
see
that
yeah,
so
you
see
the
two
buildings
that
I
was
referencing
in
the
background
both
four-story
office
buildings,
hcc
collaboration
studio
here,
the
masonite
four-story
new
office
building.
Here
you
see
the
the
parking
garage.
H
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
ones
you're
referencing,
and
it
has
these
kind
of
cupolas
that
come
up
up
above
it.
55
feet
is
just
about
where
these
windows
are
below
the
clock
tower.
So
those
cupolas
go
up
70
some
feet.
I
would,
I
would
guess
we
went
out
and
and
laser
shot
the
elevations
and
so
that
both
of
the
towers
on
either
end
are
are
significantly
higher
than
the
parapet
height
that
we're
we're
talking
about.
E
Come
on,
you've
had
a
small
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
so
commissioners,
while
you're
discussing
or
trying
to
determine
your
emotion
regarding
this
again
focus
your
discussion
about
whether
or
not
this
applicant
has
met
the
hardship
criteria.
E
The
information
regarding
the
other
properties,
I
mean,
as
mr
villa
stated,
he
doesn't
know
anything
any
additional
information
about
what
was
actually
approved
on
those
buildings
or
those
projects
and
what's
the
scope
of
those
projects
I
know
they're
existing.
But
again
the
focus
is
on
this
application
and
whether
or
not
the
athlete
has
met
the
hardship
criteria.
That's
given
to
you
in
the
packet.
B
If
thank
you,
do
you
want
to
I'm
going
to
end
with
you?
Let
me
start
with
mr
gillat's.
F
B
F
Well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
a
very
thorough
presentation.
I
believe
the
applicant
has
met
the
hardship
criteria.
This
is
a
unique
site
in
several
regards
one,
most
importantly,
that
it's
an
l-shaped
site
and
in
the
prominent
corner
of
an
important
streetscape,
we
have
two
contributing
structures,
one
of
which
is
two
stories,
one
of
which
is
a
story
and
a
half,
because
it
has
a
high
pitch.
F
When
you
look
at
what
this
applicant
is
able
to
do
with
the
allowed
volume,
the
floor
error
ratio,
one
of
the
options
is
to
do
a
lower
l-shaped
building
and
not
eat
audiences,
but
I
think
that
would
be
in
detriment,
as
they've
pointed
out
to
the
overall
streetscape
and
how
it
impacts
the
visual
aspect
of
that
corner.
F
So
really
what
I
see
this
is
they're,
basically
just
redistributing
their
allowable
floor
area
ratio
to
create
a
more
compatible
volume
that
does
match
and
is
pretty
consistent
with
the
streetscape
along
eighth
avenue
and
thus
a
creating
some
open
space,
and
I
think,
to
the
enhancement
of
the
two
existing.
F
B
A
I
understand
I
understand
what
you're
saying
and
I
couldn't
find
the
thing
in
my
packet
that
indicated
what
the
rules
are
for
it.
The
question
that
I
have-
and
I
don't
know
where
to
get
the
answer
is
I
understand
that
the
what
we
have
to
think
about
is
has
he
met
the
criteria
for
the
hardship
in?
A
A
And-
and
I
understand
that-
and
I
still
go
back
to
a
past
reference-
that
we
put
our
historical
designation
on
a
watch
list
and
in
trouble
because
we
we
built
something
higher
than
what
we
were
supposed
to
is
all
I'm
saying.
So,
if
we're
supposed
to
build
this-
and
this
is
within
the
guidelines,
does
it
still.
E
A
B
So
I'll
address
a
couple,
if
I
may
I'm
going
to
address
a
couple
of
your
comments,
we're
not
granting
them
with
the
hype,
variance
they.
They
are
stating
that
basically,
this
site
is
unique
because
of
its
l-shaped,
in
that
they
cannot,
when
this
came
to
us
before
they
built
a
four-story
building
with
the
same
floor
plates.
So
your
area
is
not
going
to
change.
Okay,
they're
asking
for
additional
height
between
the
floor
because
before
it
was
residential,
so
you
could
go
with
a
lower
floor
to
floor
height.
B
F
B
B
So
one
there's
height
restrictions,
there's
no
parking
required,
so
they
don't
have
to
make
any
parking.
That's
an
advantage,
I
think,
and
now
for
them
to
come
back
and
and
request
additional
height,
which
is
within
our
historic
district
in
the
heart
of
the
historic
district.
It's
just.
If
you
talk
about
being
on
a
dangerous.
You
know
slippery
slope
with
the
secretary
of
interior
standards
yeah.
B
F
It's
which
one
is
it
that
has
that.
So
this
is
yeah.
F
F
So
I
mean
I'm
just
making
my
argument
that
the
I
feel
they've
met
the
hardship.
Mr.
E
Villa
can
you
confirm
that
what
is
displayed
on
the
monitor
would
that
request
require
a
variance.
F
C
F
So
when
I,
when
I
the
way
I'm
reading
their
their
hardship,
is
that
this
is
not
as
desirable
a
way
to
build
out
this
site
so
because
we're
historic
preservation
board
and
because
they
have
the
option
to
bring
their
various
quests.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
really
the
whole
this
part
of
the
block
and
see
what
is
the
best
way
to
create
the.
B
Go
back
well.
This
is
fine,
so
but
you're
looking
you're
looking
at
you
know
the
precedent
that
they're,
you
know
the
this
with
the
proposed
with
the
hype
variants,
they're
they're,
looking
to
align
with
central
ibor,
which
is
a
non-contributing
structure.
Look
at
all
these
other
contributing
structures
in
that
area.
You
know
all
of
them.
That's
contributing
contributing
contributing
contributing.
This
building
is
the
only
one
that's
not,
but
yet
that
building
would
tower,
above
all
those
others
and
there's
no
variance
for
the
other
buildings
that
they
referenced.
There
were
no
variance
requests
for
those.
B
You
know
I
mean
the
the
applicant
has
brought
mr
alvin
rd.
You
know,
but
his
buildings
gonna
get
dwarfed
by
that
adjacent
building.
That's
two
full
stories,
two
plus
stories
because
they're
you
know
they've
got
mechanical,
so
you
almost
if
you
took
a
look
at
that
stair
tower
there.
That's
three
stories
above
and
he's
already
concerned
about
storm
water
and
that
storm
water
that
hit
the
side
of
the
building
is
going
to
go
onto
his
roof.
B
So
you
know
it's
kind
of
you're
building,
more
density
there
to
add
more
issues
with
the
storm
water
off
the
sidewall
run
up
run
off,
but
it
doesn't
really
matter
with
storm
water,
because
the
roof
area
is
still
a
roof
area,
no
matter
how
tall
you
go.
So
I
have
a
hard
time
understanding
there's
a
hardship
here.
I
also
think
it
sets
a
dangerous
precedent
for
the
district,
with
height
limits.
These
height
limits
have
been
in
place
for
a
long
time.
You
know
you
know
we're
staying
with
those
consistently.
B
You
know,
I
think
you
know
some
of
the
references
that
the
applicant
made
to
hcc.
Well,
hcc
is
his
own
zoning
district.
It's
yc3
right,
so
it's
it
follows
its
own
rules
and
even
like
hcc,
you
know
think
about
the
history.
They
they
went
forward
with
a
four-story
building
at
one
point
in
time
before
they
got
back
with
the
the
barrio
and
they
made
them
chop
off
the
top
story
because
it
was
too
high.
So
I.
H
B
An
issue
that's
going
to
start
coming
before
us
now,
especially
with
some
of
the
development
that
we're
seeing
on
the
south
side-
and
you
know,
I
think,
that's
that's
its
own
animal.
I
know
it's
probably
the
same
owner
here,
but
I
think
the
height
limits
are
in
place
for
a
certain
reason
and
we
need
to
maintain
the
integrity
of
the
district
with
these
height
limits
that
have
been
established.
B
If
there's
a
variance,
I
mean
a
variance
of
a
certain
hardship
criteria,
man-made
objects
or
certain
objects
that
can't
be
relocated
or
moved.
I
don't
think
changing
the
use
of
a
building
is
really
a
hardship
criteria
that
needs
to
be
evaluated
by
the
support
economics
yeah.
Is
that
a
hardship?
No,
you
know
it.
B
Maybe
I
burned
right
so,
but
I
think
this
the
commissioner,
you
know
we
need
to
evaluate
the
only
way
that
we
can
grant.
A
variance
for
a
height
increase
is,
if
there's
a
demonstrated
hardship
and
if
they
meet.
I
don't
if
we're
gonna.
If
we
ask
a
question,
we
have
to
open
the
publication.
E
An
abundance
of
caution,
if
we're
going
to
ask
questions
of
staff,
I
think
I
would
prefer
there
be
a
motion
to
reopen
the
hearing
in
order
for
the
applicant
to
be
able
to
respond,
if
necessary,
to
rebut
any
questions
that
or
response
that
staff
gives
in
this
situation.
Right.
A
C
C
You
know
if
somebody
wants
to
put
two
stories
under
45
foot
in
height
they
can
so
it's
it's
a
number
that
has
been
quantified
over
time,
that
that
is
the
limitation.
A
Let
me
let
me
make
sure
I
understand
what
you
told
me.
You
said
that
45
feet
is
45
feet
and
nowhere
in
the
rules
govern
us
in
this
board.
Is
there
anything
that
says
well
if
you've
got
an
appendage
that
you
can't
use,
you
should
be
able
to
take
that
square
footage,
45
feet
tall
and
put
that
volume.
C
Back
in
there's
nothing
that
says
that
that's
what
you're
telling
me
that
was
a
discussion
that
was
presented
today.
They
do
have
the
ability
at
the
tongue
if
we
will
to
add
some
square
footage
over
there
and
recoup
any
additional
square
footage
that
they
believe
they
lost.
Looking
at
eighth
avenues,
oh.
C
That's
up
to
them
how
they
want
to
design
it,
but
they
can
displace
some
of
the
height
and
put
it
on
15th
street.
That's
correct!
Okay!
So
this
hardship
is
a
strong
man.
C
Yeah,
I'm
not
going
to
go
there.
The
hardship
has
been
presented
into
the
record
and
it
should
be
discussed
at
the
hearing.
Thank
you.
E
H
H
H
If
the
design
guidelines
allow,
I
could
do
a
six
story.
Building
there
it'd
just
be
really
squatty
right.
So
what
we
did
is
we
studied
a
number
of
different
proportions
pulled
up
on
the
screen
right
now
we
showed
kind
of
a
very
traditional
approach.
H
Take
three
floors,
put
it
across
the
entire
site
and
then
add
25
of
the
fourth
floor
somewhere
on
the
property.
It
could
be,
could
be
four
right
up
against
this.
This
facade
here
it
could
be
four
right
up
against
this
facade.
That's
that's
a
design
aspect,
not
floor
area
ratio.
H
H
I
also
wanna,
if
I'm
able
to
address
one
one
concern
that
you
had
previously
in
regards
to
buildings
kind
of
towering
over
two
stories.
Next
to
an
adjacent
building.
There
are
a
number
of
historic
buildings
all
up
and
down.
Seventh,
where
you
have
two
stories
adjacent
to
lower
lower
ones.
You've
got
this
one.
H
E
B
Okay,
have
you
are
you
complete
yeah.
H
I
mean
I,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
understand
all
the
the
parameters
that
we're
discussing
here,
because
I,
I
think
we're
kind
of
interpreting
as
we
see
fit
and
floor
area
ratio
is,
is
pretty
standard,
we're
not
deviating.
We
can.
We
can
build
four
floors.
The
only
thing
that
we're
asking
for
is
seven
feet
in
height,
and
that
was
the
difference
between
what
we're
proposing
right
now.
H
B
So
I
think,
commissioners,
it's
important
to
know
that
they're
seeking
a
variance
here,
there's
six
hardship
criteria
that
they
need
to
meet,
to
demonstrate
the
hardship
to
grant
a
variance,
and
the
variance
here
is
additional
15
feet
of
height
allowable
up
to
60
feet.
That's
their
request,
so
they
need
to
meet
all
six
points
here
of
the
hardship
in
order
to
to
grant
that
I'm
not
sure
that
they
do,
but
that's
our
standard
that
we're
looking
at
this
variance
with.
B
E
Kamaria
pettis
mackle
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
apologize.
We
can't
you
use
the
the
and
I've
heard
it
a
couple
of
times.
The
word
precedent
we
have
to
look
at
this
application
as
it
is
presented
to
the
board
and
whether
or
not
this
applicant
has
proven
or
presented
competent,
substantial
evidence
regarding
a
hardship
criteria,
not
what
this
standard
will
set
about.
But
whether
or
not
this
applicant
I
apologize,
meets
the
hardship
criteria.
B
Okay,
yeah,
I
think,
there's
a
couple
things
here
with
the
the
the
hard
ship
criteria
and
just
make
one
more
comment
about
the
the
u60
and
the
density,
and
the
far
I
mean
yeah,
I
mean
they're
working
within
the
parameters
of
the
top
comp
plan
right.
You
know
which
allows
them
so
much
density
and
square
footage
versus
height
restrictions.
B
Yes,
if
this
building
was
located
outside
of
ebor
outside
of
the
heart
of
the
historic
district,
yeah
more
power
to
them,
but
we're
a
historic
district,
we
have
height
limits
that
have
been
set.
The
45-foot
height
limit
is
on
seventh
avenue,
it's
all
set
by
the
historic
president
of
the
the
cuban
club,
the
the
social
clubs
and
the
other
large
buildings.
B
I
think
centro
ebore
is
an
exception
as
a
as
a
large
scale
project,
but
I
have
a
hard
time,
as
I
stated
before,
realizing
that
an
l-shaped
lot
creates
a
hardship
criteria
to
allow
for
additional
height
to
build
something.
That's
not
going
to
be
consistent
with
the
historic
standards
with
the
national
or
local
historic
standards
of
ybor
city.
So.
B
E
H
H
E
H
I
mean
I
I
would
need
to
defer
with
with
the
development
team,
and
so
I
think
it's
my
professional
obligation
to
to
meet
with
with
ownership
and
and
find
out
how
they
they'd
like
to
proceed
with
this.
B
E
F
B
Well,
the
applicant
has
the
right:
you
know
to
either
go
for
an
up
or
down
boat
or
before
we
get
to
that
point,
they
can
request
a
continuance
to
get
their
ducks
in
a
row,
so
we
give
them
that
opportunity.
They
requested
a
continuance.
So
this
this
commission
will
entertain
a
motion
for
a
continuance
at
this
time
and.
H
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
presented
the
information
accurately
and
there
were
questions
and
concerns
that
the
board
members
had
you.
H
To
explain
it,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
understand
like,
for
instance,
I'm
putting
a
historic
district
in
jeopardy
because
of
a
height.
I
need
to
understand
more.
B
A
Is
there
instructions
on
this?
I
make
a
motion
that
we
continue
blc
21-164
to
our
at
1512
east,
8th
avenue
to
our
next
meeting
of
september.
28Th
2021.