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A
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
june
22nd
2021
public
hearing
for
the
city
of
tampa's
bar
latino
commission
welcome
everyone,
I'm
leaving
nguyen
the
vice
chair
of
the
commission.
If
you
are
here
to
present
a
project,
you
will
have
limited
time
to
make
your
presentation,
so
we
just
being
thorough
but
concise.
A
When
coming
to
the
microphone,
you
will
need
to
identify
yourself
and
your
relationship
to
the
project.
The
commissioners
will
not
ask
any
questions
during
your
presentation.
Your
project
should
be
presented
in
the
following
order:
site
plan,
elevations
architectural
details,
wall
sections
staff
then
presents
the
staff
report.
We
will
then
ask
for
public
comment
following
your
presentation.
The
commissioners
will
ask
will
be
asking
questions
in
the
same
order
as
the
presentation,
please
state,
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
A
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
the
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
so
take
time.
Now,
to
summarize
your
comments,
because
three
minutes
goes
by
very
quickly
following
public
comment:
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
public
hearing
will
then
be
closed.
The
only
comments
which
will
be
allowed
after
the
public
hearing
is
closed
will
be
in
response
to
any
questions
from
the
commissioners.
A
Commissioners
would
then
discuss
the
case
and
will
make
the
decision
based
on
the
city,
ordinance
chapter
27
of
the
city's
zoning
code,
the
design
guidelines,
the
secretary
of
interior
standards,
design
review
comments
and
the
testimony
given
at
the
public
hearing.
The
blc
can
only
act
on
items
that
are
within
our
specific
jurisdictional
responsibility.
A
A
D
Good
morning,
commissioners
ron
villam
staff
with
historic
preservation.
Thank
you
for
your
attendance
this
morning
under
announcements,
we
have
the
administrative
reviews
that
are
in
your
packet.
This
shows
what
staff
has
done
for
the
previous
month
in
the
may
cycle.
You're
attached.
If
you
have
any
comments,
please
contact
the
office
moving
down
to
conflicts
of
interest
and
exported
communication.
We
have
camarilla
palace
mackel
with
illegal
here
to
address
the
board.
E
Good
morning,
commissioners,
kamari
and
teres
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
will
the
commissioners
please
state
whether
or
not
they
have
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda
for
the
record
scene,
none
additionally,
will
the
commissioners
please
state
on
the
record
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte
communications
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
listed
on
the
agenda
again
for
the
record
see
hearing
them.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
kamaria
moving
to
continuation,
so
we
have
one
that
is
reflected
on
today's
agenda,
which
is
blc21-31.
This
is
for
the
address
of
1211
east
7th
avenue.
This
request
was
by
the
agent
to
continue
to
the
july
27
2021
public
hearing
at
9
00
a.m,
and
if
we
could
get
a
motion
for
that,
please
so.
F
C
D
G
D
This
is
for
the
address
2616
east
10th
avenue.
Currently
there
is
a
non-contributing
structure
that
was
relocated
to
this
site
as
part
of
the
interstate
expansion.
This
was
relocated
from
26th
street,
and
that
was
in
ninth.
Excuse
me
in
2005..
D
D
D
You
see
that
here
that
the
vacant
land
in
1929,
the
sprawl
you
see
the
density
to
the
west
of
the
subject
site
was
pretty
heavy
and
then
it
was
coming
this
way
it
hadn't
reached
there
yet
moving
to
our
vicinity
map.
This
is
indicated
in
the
green
box
over
here,
their
property
in
question.
The
other
green
areas
are
city
parks
and
then
we're
looking
here.
So
you
can
see
that
this
is
towards
the
eastern
boundary
of
the
district.
D
D
D
Section
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
property
line,
the
portion
of
the
fences
is
here
and
then
you
see
the
condition
of
the
existing
fence
just
another
closer
shot
of
the
existing
fence.
There
is
a
gate
here
that
part
of
the
request
is
that
he
wants
to
put
a
gate
here
and
put
an
apron
here,
so
he
has
access
to
the
rear
of
the
property.
D
D
This
is
looking
to
the
south
property
in
question
is
over
here,
and
you
see
a
wood
fence
here,
and
you
see
some
chain
link
in
the
background
and
directly
across
the
street
to
the
south.
This
is
the
condition
or
the
environment.
So
that
concludes
the
photo
presentation.
This
time
the
property
owner
had
addressed
the
board.
Thank
you.
H
H
The
other
reason
why
I'd
like
to
install
the
pvc
fence
is
I'd
like
to
you
know
sort
of
highlight
just
a
couple
reasons
why
pvc
is
more
durable
than
wood
and
more
doable
than
wrought
iron.
It
does
not
rust
easily
and
it's
easy
to
clean
and
maintain
it's
more
affordable.
My
neighborhood
is
not
an
affluent
part
of
town,
in
fact,
the
medium
home
sells
for
about
219
000
in
my
neighborhood,
as
opposed
to
westchase,
which
home
sell
on
average
for
415
000..
H
Many
people
cannot
afford
wrought
iron
fences
and
the
cost
of
replacing
wooden
fence
every
five
to
ten
years
is
is
can
get
prohibitive
so
because
of
the
durability,
the
material
is
also
recyclable.
If
I
need
to
tear
down
on
any
piece,
I
can
recycle
that
so
it's
sustainable.
H
It's
also
aesthetically
pleasing
the
lines
are
clean
and
rigid.
They
look
uniform
and
neat,
and
the
color
is
basic
white.
So
nothing
stands
out
of
the
ordinary.
In
fact,
from
a
distance,
you
probably
wouldn't
be
able
to
tell
the
difference
between
a
white
wooden
fence
and
a
white
pvc
fence,
lisa
style
that
I'm
trying
to
erect
it's
also
more
secure,
well
crime
in
my
neighborhood
has
been
declining
over
the
years.
We
still
experience
many
cases
of
theft
and
burglary
and
I'm
a
single
father
with
a
ten-year-old
daughter.
H
I
have
her
80
percent
of
the
time
she's
in
camp
right
now.
So
security
is
a
very
important
component
of
this
request.
As
well
last
thing,
I'd
like
to
note
that
the
existing
fence
is
in
disrepair,
and
I
mentioned
that
I've
already
started
installing
the
fence.
Is
this
a
projector
that
I
can
share
the
survey.
H
Right
here,
okay,
so
this
is
a
survey
that
I
submitted
as
part
of
my
application
and
it
indicates
and
the
red
I
can't.
I
don't
know
how
there
you
go
so
in
the
red
right
here.
This
is
where
the
existing
fence
is
and
where
the
new
one's
going
to
go
right
in
this
place,
you
can
see
it's
well
inside
the
property
line,
there's
on
on
both
sides
of
the
110
foot
side
at
the
top.
H
H
The
fence
is
standard,
six
feet
high.
I
understand
you
can't
do
anything
at
least
residential
higher
in
that
neighborhood
and
I'm
okay
with
that
and
then
there's
an
existing
gate,
as
mr
villa
pointed
out
that
it's
about
110
pounds-
and
it
has
a
couple
wheels
on
the
bottom-
so
moving
it
in
and
out
is
very
difficult.
I
do
have
a
small
recreational
vehicle
on
the
back
and
I'm
trying
to
get
access
to
that
from
this
street
right
here,
all
right.
H
H
A
Thank
you
for
your
presentation
now
we'll
open
up
the
for
public
comment.
If
there
anyone
here
to
speak.
A
F
Problem
okay,
come
on,
but
I'm
gonna
ask
a
couple
questions
here.
So
from
the
photos,
there's
part
of
your,
you
started
to
install
the
pv
fence
to
a
certain.
F
H
No,
I
started
this
project,
probably
about
three
and
a
half
years
ago.
I
just
not
have
the
money
to
do
it
all
at
once.
I
did
it
myself,
and
so
I
have
the
materials
now
to
finish
it,
but
I
just
haven't
been
able
to
do
it
all
at
one
time.
So
it's
been
in
product.
This
has
been
a
two
or
three
year
project.
F
Okay,
so
on
the
on
the
east
side
of
the
house,
you
probably
did
that
front
section
coming
off
of
the
house.
Heading
east
then
heading
north
for
another
10
feet
to
the
back
corner
of
the
house,
and
that's
all
you
did
there,
I'm
looking
at
ron's
photo
on
the
west
side.
You
did
a
pbc
fence
that
went
from
the
house
west
to
the
north.
Does
that
meet
the
existing
wood
fence,
or
does
that
go
all
the
way
back
to
the
setback
line
off
your
property.
H
One
on
the
west
side
right,
so
it
the
existing
wooden
fence
at
that
part,
is
actually
already
on
it's
already
taken
out.
Okay,
but
the
part
that
the
existing
wooden
fence-
that's
remaining,
the
vinyl
fence
meets
it,
it
doesn't
supersede
it
or
come
inside
it's
it's
pretty
much
on
the
same
line
and
I
measured
it
to
be
inside
my
property
line.
E
E
H
Thank
you
for
that.
The
fence
that's
already
installed
would
be
here
coming
off
the
house
right
here,
north
south,
east
or
west.
You
guys
are
better
than
that
better
than
me
at
that.
This
right
here,
section
is
done.
This
section
is
done.
F
Okay,
so
it's
basically
just
that
what
we
saw
from
that
first
photo.
Everything
else
is
done,
except
for
where
that
gate
is
and
where
the
proposed
paver.
H
Curb
cut
yes,
sir:
here's
another
picture
that
better
illustrates
the
existing
remaining
structure
right
here,
so
you
can
see
at
the
upper
corner
here.
This
part
is
done.
It
meets
the
old
wooden
fence
and
then
all
I'm
asking
to
finish
this
right
here
and
it
goes
all
the
way
to
the
edge
of
the
house.
F
Okay
question:
so
this
started
three
three
and
a
half
years
ago.
It's
been
that
way,
and
you
just
kind
of
ran
out
of
money
to
finish
that
last
section
and
do
that
replace
that
it's
pretty
deteriorated,
that
wood
fence
section
and
the
gate
that
goes
there
to
access
your
backyard.
H
H
Absolutely
I'll
put
the
survey
back
up,
oh
and
by
the
way,
this
does
provide
an
illustration
kind
of
where
that
gate
is
right
here,
the
heavy
one
that's
hard
to
move.
This
is
where
I'd
like
to
put
the
driveway
and,
at
some
point
I'll,
probably
come
back
and
ask
for
to
pave
this
part
on
the
inside
of
the
property.
If
I
need
approval,
but
I'm
asking
for
this
case
is
to
put
the
apron
on
the
outside
of
the
property
bordering
north
27th
street,
and
so
from
the
survey
here.
H
You
can
see
in
blue
down
here
there's
an
existing
10
foot
gate
on
the
old
fence
and
I'm
asking
to
expand
it
to
12
feet
so
I'll
have
two
six
feet
gates
that
will
open
and
they
will
open
to
the
should
they
open
on
the
ends.
How
do
I
have
it
here?
This
swing,
two
six
feet
swing
gates,
and
you
guys
told
me
if
I
need
to
have
it
open
from
the
inside
or
the
outside,
I
think
to
the
outside.
H
But
you
guys
will
let
me
know
and
then
install
an
apron
there,
the
materials
of
the
apron,
I'm
I'm
not.
You
know
committed
to
that
if,
if
the
commission
requires
concrete,
I'm
happy
to
put
in
concrete,
I'm
not
stuck
to
favors,
it
just
was
a
more
economical
way
to
do
it.
But
if
I
need
to
save
more
to
put
concrete
there
to
keep
with
the
aesthetics
of
the
neighborhood,
I'm
okay
with
that.
H
G
D
C
I
have
two
questions:
there's
no
kirk
up
curb
cut
there
now
right
with
a.
C
F
One
more
question
for
staff:
you
know:
we've
run
into
a
situation
like
this
in
a
previous
meeting
with
the
pvc
fence,
this
area,
this
location
for
in
the
eastern
part
of
the
district.
This
has
always
been
part
of
the
local
historic
district
that
hasn't
recently
been
annexed
or
anything
like
that.
D
F
D
H
The
property
this
will
be
six
and
a
half
years.
I
bought
the
house
six
you're,
probably
right
around.
A
Fantastic
and
I
have
no
further
questions
as
well,
so
you've
sort
of
responded,
as
the
other
commissioners
asked
the
questions,
but
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
If
there's
anything
else,
you'd
like
to
add.
B
We're
talking
quietly
amongst
ourselves
right
is
that
what
we're
doing
so
there's
a
part
of
me
to
me.
This
is
a
no-brainer
we
need
to.
We
need
to.
We
have
allowed
pvc
to
go
in
previously,
because
that
wasn't
the
discussion
around
that's
what's
happening.
That's
it's
a
product,
that's
being
developed.
Now
it
wasn't
developed
at
the
time
the
guidelines
were
established.
B
F
Yes,
you
know:
we've
had
this
discussion
in
the
last
couple
meetings.
You
know
it's,
you
know
I
kind
of
wish
the
design
standards
or
design
guidelines
have
been
updated.
So
we
can
take
a
look
at
that
and
see
if
it's
a
little
bit
more
permissible,
I'm
with
liz
on
the
apron.
I
think
you
know,
I
think
if
the
applicant
seems
agreeable
to
make
that
concrete,
that
would
lead
into
a
ribbon
drive
into
his
backyard.
That's
certainly
more
appropriate
application
here
than
the
brick
pavers.
F
You
know
the
pvc
fence
we
go
back
and
forth.
I
think
the
previous
case
we
talked
about
you
know
that
was
done.
It's
complete,
they
didn't
know.
F
I
think
this
applicant
didn't
really
know
either,
but
at
some
point
in
time
it's
just
opening
up
a
can
of
worms
unless
that
gets
updated
with
the
new
standards
that
are
coming
out
so
it
is,
it
isn't
an
allowed
material
in
the
district
at
this
point
in
time
that
may
change
in
the
next
couple
months.
I
think
there's
some
timing
here
that
you
know
he's
I'd,
say:
75
complete.
F
It
would
create
an
undue
financial
hardship
for
him
to
go
back
and
replace
that
we
didn't
specifically
ask
him
for
costs,
but
I
think
we
call
all
kind
of
guests.
That's
you
know,
he's
been
saving
three
and
a
half
years
to
do
this
to
finish
off
that
section.
So
it's
it's
not
a
you
know
easy
to
cover
with
a
you
know,
credit
card
payment
or
something
but
yeah
it
takes
a
while.
So
I
think,
there's
a
little
precedent
set
here
that
that
this
does
create
an
undue
economic
hardship.
F
I'd
also
like
to
state
that
you
know
being
that
he's
on
one
of
the
newer
annexed
of
the
sections
of
the
local
historic
district
gives
us
a
little
bit
more
flexibility.
I
don't
think
this
stands
yet
in
the
main,
historic,
the
national
landmark
district.
So
I
think
there's
some
flexibility
there
and
we
hear
from
one
of
his
neighbors.
E
G
Thing,
thank
you,
I'm
100
with
liz
and
I
think
you're
too
rich
and
there's
not
much
to
say
it
just
looks
like
I
know
where
this
is
going
and
it's
the
right
place
for
it
to
go.
C
E
Kamari
I've
had
a
smackle
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
don't
have
the
right-of-way
permit,
but
certainly
in
formatting
your
motion
regarding
the
the
paper
or
the
apron
driveway.
You
may
want
to
consider
whether
or
not
you
want
to
put
a
condition
about
the
right-of-way
permit
being
approved
with
the
city.
A
All
right
great,
thank
you.
We
will,
and
as
all
the
commissioners
others
as
all
the
commissioners
have
stated,
I
tend
to
agree
as
well.
The
standards
will
be
updated
at
towards
the
end
of
this
year,
and
so
hopefully,
within
those
we
can
talk
also
about
new,
updated
materials
for
fencing.
A
Obviously,
pvc
lasts
longer
than
wood,
it's
more
affordable
than
wood
and
I
believe
in
the
meantime,
it's
sort
of
a
stop
gap.
We
can
use
the
sort
of
exception
for
undue
economic
hardship
for
the
applicant
in
terms
of
approving
potential,
potentially
improving
this
this
fence,
and
with
that
I
think
we
can
make
a
motion.
A
F
Just
to
clarify
procedurally
kamaria
do
you
need
the
applicant
to
state
that
he
is
agreeable.
A
F
Yeah,
we're
gonna
make
the
motion
that
the
concrete
apron
is
gonna,
that
the
apron
is
gonna
be
concrete
and
that
you'll
need
to
coordinate
with
the
city
of
tampa
on
the
right
away.
Permit.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
that
is
acceptable
to
change
the
material
to
concrete
in
lieu
of
the
pavers.
You
said
before
that
you
are
amenable
to
that,
but
we
just
need
you
to
verify
that.
Yes,
absolutely
okay.
Thank
you
sure.
B
I
have
a
question
before
we
make
our
motion.
I'm
in
support
of
the
motion.
Do
we
need
to
specify
whether
we
want
the
gate
to
go
in
or
out?
Does
that
matter
to
us?
Do
we?
I
don't
know
that
it,
I
wouldn't
say:
does
that
matter
to
us,
but
I
don't
know
that
we
have
input,
I'm
more
inclined
about
the
cement
yeah
okay,
so
that
can
be
his
choice.
How
he
wants
to.
E
See
that
mario
pen
is
not
coming
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
you
can
always
refer
that
to
staff
or
staff
to
direct
how
the
gate
should
operate.
F
F
Move
to
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
drawings
and
documents
presented
at
this
public
hearing
in
blc21-34
for
the
property
located
at
2616
east
10th
avenue,
with
the
following
conditions
that
the
applicant
changed
material
of
the
apron
driveway
to
concrete
and
that's
to
be
coordinated
with
city
of
tampa
department
of
transportation
for
as
part
of
the
right-of-way
permit,
and
because,
based
upon
the
finding
of
fact,
the
proposed
project
is
consistent
with
the
ybor
city.
Design
guides
of
the
city
of
tampa.
F
For
the
following
reasons
for
chapter
27
of
the
city
of
tampa
code,
design,
reviews
reference
and
the
secretary
of
constitutional
standards
that
the
the
recommended
fencing
material
would
place
an
undue
economic
hardship
on
the
applicant.
And
that
is
the
reason
for
the
motion.
F
C
C
G
I'd
like
to
add
the
word,
scored
concrete
to.
A
C
D
Good
morning,
commissioners
ron
villa
staff
with
historic
preservation
moving
to
the
next
case,
which
is
blc,
21-146,
slash,
t-a,
slash,
cap
2105.
This
is
for
our
comp
plan
amendment.
The
address
is
1402
15th
street.
There
is
a
contributing
structure
within
the
subject
sites
that
are
being
reviewed
this
morning.
It's
a
1915
contributing
structure.
The
current
zoning
at
that
location
is
yc6.
D
D
Moving
to
the
photo
presentation,
I
always
like
to
start
with
the
1929
sanborn.
You
see
the
density
here.
This
is
part
of
the.
This
of
our
boundaries
shows
that
this
is
inside
the
local
district
of
ybor
city.
This
is
outside
the
property
in
question.
Is
this
small
parcel
here
to
kind
of
get
a
better
understanding
a
more
global
look,
because
once
again,
this
is
the
red
indicates
the
local
boundaries.
D
This
is
the
request.
This
morning,
you
see,
there's
different
parcels
in
the
magenta
highlighted
area.
You
have
one
that's
a
little
farther
from
the
district
once
again,
this
is
the
boundaries.
This
is
the
small
contributing
structure
that
is
within
the
local
district,
and
then
you
have
a
couple
that
abut
the
district.
D
So
you
get
a
feel
for
the
the
environment.
This
is
looking
to
the
east,
so
this
is
the
dividing
line.
Everything
to
the
west
of
15th
street
is
outside
the
district.
This
is
to
the
east.
This
is
inside
the
district,
so
you
see
some
outdoor
storage
and
a
butler
building.
You
have
some
contributing
structures
that
are
within
the
district.
D
Here
is
looking
to
the
east
across
15th
street
once
again
just
to
get
a
feel
for
the
for
the
area,
and
this
is
looking
down
15th
street
to
the
north.
These
are
the
the
contributing
structures
that
I
showed
earlier.
This
is
looking
back
into
7th
avenue
and
turning
around
in
the
other
direction.
This
is
looking
down.
15Th
street
towards
animal
property
in
question
is
here
the
dividing
line.
What's
in
the
district
is
here,
this
is
outside
the
district
and
is
part
of
what
the
applicant
is
going
to
show
and
just
to
revisit.
D
This
is
the
contributing
structure.
That's
in
these
were
the
grouping
of
the
two
little
cottages
that
were
in
the
district.
This
was
the
dividing
line
down
15th
street.
This
is
in
the
district.
This
is
out
of
the
district,
but
staff
has
some
concerns,
since
these
abut
the
the
district
line.
That
sensitivity
is
required
at
this
time.
Tyler
hudson
is
the
agent
for
the
owner
is
going
to
go
through
the
presentation
and
then
I'll
be
back
to
have
some
comments.
Thank.
D
I
Thank
you
so
with
me
here
this
morning
is
graeme
tyrell
grahams,
the
senior
vice
president
for
development
at
ketler,
which
is
a
dc
based
developer,
graham
actually
moved
here
last
year
and
ketler
in
conjunction
with
daryl
shaw,
are
working
on
a
large-scale
master
plan
for
an
area
that
will
eventually
encompass
about
50
acres
of
really
the
southwestern
portion
of
ybor
city.
That
project
is
going
to
be
entitled
and
developed
in
phases.
I
This
is
the
first
of
what
will
probably
be
well
over
a
dozen
hearings
that
we're
going
to
have
before
you,
both
for
recommendations
as
to
comprehensive
plan
changes,
recommendations
on
rezonings
and
also
what
will
be
probably
several
certificates
of
appropriateness
for
the
design
elements
of
buildings
that
are
constructed
within
the
district
itself.
One
of
the
opportunities
of
this
project
that
that
is
sometimes
disguised
as
a
challenge
is
the
fact
that
the
historic
district
boundary
does
divide
the
scope
of
this
project
and
not
necessarily
in
a
very
even
clean
way.
I
I
At
different
points
in
this
presentation
and
when
graham
speaks
a
little
bit
later
on,
you
might
hear
us
refer
to
the
project
ibor
south,
the
the
master
plan,
and
I
want
to
show
you
just
very
briefly
what
those
general
boundaries
are
and
again
and
and
we've
worked
want
to
thank
camaria
and
ron
for
all
their
help.
We
want
to
be
very
careful
about
keeping
this
presentation,
today's
hearing
very
limited,
but
there
are
going
to
be
many
more
hearings
to
come
on
this
project,
but
so
that
everyone
has
an
orientation
about
where
we
are
talking
about.
I
This
is
the
general
scope
of
the
project,
the
portions
that
are
west
of
nucio
we
generally
refer
to
as
the
west
blocks.
That's
the
site
of
the
former
tampa
park
apartments.
Those
are
subject
to
a
filed,
rezoning
that
you
will
have
a
recommendation
hearing
for
sometime
later
this
year
in
the
center
you'll,
see
the
gasworks
parcel
and
then
to
the
east
you'll
see
what
we
sometimes
refer
to
the
eastern
parcels
or
the
gateway
parcels
and
all
of
the
map,
amendments
that
we're
talking
about
today
say
for
the
one
at
the
very
south.
I
The
green
outline
parcel,
as
you
can
see,
the
red
is
the
historic
district
boundary
green
of
the
parcels,
we're
going
to
chat
about
just
forever
for
organization.
We're
gonna
talk
about
these
as
as
entirely
separate
number
one
is
what's
what
is
within
the
historic
district.
Two
three
and
four
are
varying
degrees
of
outside,
but
I
want
to
go
partial
by
parcel
so
that
this
commission
can
understand
what
it
what
you
can
do
now
on
this
property
under
the
comprehensive
plan
and
what
you
could
do
if
these
changes
are
ultimately
approved.
I
Okay,
let's
start
with
number
one.
This
is
the
project.
That's
in
the
historic
district.
It's
a
4,
400
square
foot
parcel.
It
does
have
a
contributing
structure
on
it.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
in
a
second.
As
you
can
see,
this
block
is
divided
between
predominantly
cmu
35
to
the
east.
That
is
what
we
are
seeking
to
go
into
into
mixed
use
on
the
western
side
of
the
block.
The
part-
that's
red,
on
top
gray,
on
the
bottom,
that
entire
folio
is
a
tico
substation
that
is
candidly.
I
Let's
talk
about
the
actual
effect
of
that,
so
right
now
being
a
light,
industrial
land
use
classification,
residential
use
is
prohibited,
so
you
could
not
build
a
house
here.
You
couldn't
put
a
townhome
here.
You
people
cannot
live
here
because
of
this
light,
industrial
classification,
we
think
that
is,
is
inappropriate,
regardless
of
whether
we
had
a
project
planned
or
not.
This
portion
of
ybor,
certainly
more
people,
want
to
live
in
ibor
city,
we're
having
conversations
city-wide
about
where
folks
perhaps
want
to
inhibit
growth.
I
I
Before
we
talk
about
the
other
parcels,
I
wanted
to
have
a
brief
interlude
about
the
comprehensive
plan.
There's
two
features
of
the
comprehensive
plan
that
I
think
are
really
bare
on
this
discussion.
The
first
is
is
tucked
away
on
page
81
and
it's
a
reference
to
what's
called
south
ibor
city
and
it
speaks
to
an
area-
that's
generally
south
of
3rd
avenue,
generally
in
the
ybor
city.
Urban
village,
the
parcels
we're
talking
about
today
are
south
of
3rd
avenue,
but
they're,
not
quite
in
the
urban
village
they're
a
little
bit
west
of
it.
I
But
again,
I'm
leading
a
lot
into
that
word
generally
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
but
you'll
note
that
it
mentions
you
know:
increased
interest
in
residential
development
and
really
the
proximity
to
downtown,
which
is
a
good
segue
into
the
second
point.
I
want
to
make
about
the
comprehensive
plan,
which
is
that
all
of
these
parcels
that
we're
talking
about
today
are
within
the
cbd
periphery.
Now,
in
the
comprehensive
plan,
the
cbd
periphery
is
a
very
briefly
described,
but
a
very
powerful
provision
that
allows
you
to
double
the
intensity
or
the
density
of
a
project.
I
That's
residential
or
mixed
use,
the
idea
being
that,
while
you're,
not
quite
in
the
cbd,
which
has
essentially
unlimited
density
and
density
entitlements,
only
subject
to
the
faa,
the
periphery
area
should
be
an
area
where
you're
promoting
more
people
to
live
to
work
and
to
build
to
build
more
to
develop
more.
So
I
think
that's
really
important,
as
we're
talking
about
transitioning
from
industrial
to
mixed
use
that
there's
a
lot
of
comprehensive
plan
provisions
that
I
think
already
support
this
change
that
we're
requesting.
I
That
is
exactly
what
we
are
requesting
to
stretch
eastward
over
to
the
historic
district
boundary
in
terms
of
the
effect
of
this
particular
one,
similar
you're,
going
from
a
situation
where
residential
is
prohibited,
one
where
residential
is
allowed
you're,
certainly
allowing
for
more
density
and
intensity
about
14
units
can
be
developed,
standalone
up
to
39,
000
square
feet
and
again
some
of
the
one
thing
I
want
to
make
a
comment
about
here.
That
applies
to
all
the
parcels.
I
There
might
be
some
concern
that,
well
what
if
we
want
office
what,
if
we
want
light
manufacturing,
what
if
we
want
some
type
of
flex,
space,
cmu,
35
or
rnu
100,
which
we're
proposing
for
the
further
parcels
those
uses
are,
are
still
permitted.
So
what
we're
really
talking
about
here
is
getting
rid
of.
I
think
the
type
of
industrial
uses
that
candidly
zoning
was
really
invented
in
the
early
1900s
to
separate
from
residential.
I
Next,
let's
talk
about
what
we're
calling
kind
of
parcel
three,
this
fronts
atomo
drive.
This
is
the
northwest
intersection
of
atomo
and
15th
street
here
we're
proposing
rmu
100,
which
is
outside
of
the
central
business
district.
The
most
dense,
most
intense
land
use.
Category
you'll
note
that
to
the
west
you
do
have
a
proliferation
of
proliferation.
You
have
rmu
100
to
the
west.
I
do
want
to
show
briefly
on
the
elmo.
I
It's
on
okay,
the
parcel
that's
hatched
in
black
that
that's
what
we
are
proposing
that
that's
what
it
would
look
like
if
approved,
and
the
reason
why
we
think
rnd
100
is
appropriate
here
is
because
there
is
a
continuation
of
rmu-100
to
the
south
yep.
Sorry.
I
Right
there
and
that's
that's
the
southerly
continuation
that
we
talked
about.
It
looks
like
an
enormous
gulf
between
those
parcels,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
because
atomo
drive
is
an
absurdly
wide
right-of-way,
but
in
reality
you
do
have
an
adjacency
of
rmu-100
to
the
historic
district
there
and
we
believe
that
it's
appropriate
for
this
atomo
facing
parcel.
I
I
Well,
actually
there
it
is
there.
You
go
cool!
Thank
you.
So
the
effect
of
this
is
obviously
pretty
significant.
As
you
can
see,
you
can
go
up
to
a
7.0
far
and
that's
based
on
the
3.5,
far
that
you
get
in
rmu
100,
but
potentially
doubled
for
a
residential
or
mixed-use
project,
because
you're
again
in
that
cbd,
periphery
area
the
same
the
uses
and
characteristics,
it's
the
same
transition
again.
I
Okay,
sorry,
okay,
sorry
and
finally,
we
have
a
parcel.
This
is
the
most
distant
from
the
historic
district.
This
is
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
a
strange
part.
So,
let's
touch
between
lanes
of
the
expressway.
If
you
go
up
12th
street
through
the
channel
district
and
you
sort
of
you
come
to
a
dead
end,
there's
a
large
warehouse
on
the
left.
This
is
that
parcel.
I
It's
been
in
the
news
a
little
bit,
it's
going
to
be
the
new
site
of
four
greenfields,
but
this
is
a
parcel
that
is
within
our
assemblage
as
well.
This
is
heavy
industrial,
so
from
an
intensity
standpoint,
it
still
allows
a
1.5
far,
but
it
allows
an
even
broader
array
of
industrial
uses,
including
those
that
are
that
are
not
enclosed.
So
we
believe
this
is
a
a
good
idea.
Similarly,
you'll
see
this,
this
parcel
is
surrounded
by.
If
you
look
at
the
can,
I
should
do.
I
press,
pc
or
cam
just.
E
Just
alert
there
you
go.
Thank
you.
I
You
will
see
that
that
parcel
is
also
really
surrounded
by
rmu-100.
We
think
that's
an
appropriate
one
there.
This
is
a
little
bit
of
a
no
man's
land
of
different
cra
boundaries
and
things
like
that.
But
again,
while
this
is
outside
of
the
scope,
I
think
of
your
perhaps
eventual
emotion
today.
I
want
to
make
you
aware
that
this
is
a
part
of
the
application
that
that
we
have
before
you.
I
I
want
to
make
two
comments
just
to
supplement
the
record,
and
this
is
sort
of
that
that
ron's
request
we're
happy
to
do
so.
We
are
aware
that
there
is
a
contributing
structure
on
the
parcel
that
is
within
the
historic
district.
We
do
not
know
yet
know
what
we
are
going
to
do
with
that.
It
is
unlikely
that
that
structure
is
going
to
remain,
but
we
are
committed
at
this
point
to
finding
not
this
point.
We
are
committed
now
to
finding
a
relocation
option.
I
We
will
propose
a
rezoning
eventually
to
a
pda
with
slash
yc9,
but
graham
will
talk
about
this
later,
but
we
are
very
mindful
of
the
historic
district
zoning
guidelines
and
we're
certainly
mindful
about
how
the
design
guidelines
can
can
shape
the
future
development
that
we're
going
to
be
proposing
okay.
So
I'm
going
to
stop
for
a
second
for
a
quick
legal
interlude,
I'm
about
to
bring
ask
graham
to
come
up
and
speak
a
little
bit
and
kamari,
and
I
have
spoken
about
this.
What
you're
about
to
hear
from?
I
Graham,
I
I
don't
think
could
really
have
any
bearing
on
your
recommendation
he's
going
to
talk
a
bit
about
why
we
need
these
mixed-use
amendments
to
go
through
for
the
mixed-use
master
development,
we're
creating
he's
going
to
show
a
massing
diagram
that
is
extremely
preliminary
and
has
not
been
filed
with
the
city
of
tampa
or
the
planning,
commission
and
kamari.
If
you
want
to
add
anything,
I
just.
E
Kimari
pettis
mackel
for
the
record
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
So
commissioners,
what
you're
about
to
see-
and
I
don't
know
the
extent
of
it
but
everything
that
you're
about
to
see-
cannot
be
used
in
order
to
guide
your
thought
process
of
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
recommend
approval
for
this
change.
That
they're
asking
for
I'm
sorry.
E
Okay,
so
I
just
want
to
finish
putting
on
the
record
that
you
have
to
consider
the
different
intensity
and
density
requests
that
they're
asking
for.
You
have
to
consider
that
information.
That's
already
been
presented
on
the
change
from
the
light
industrial
to
the
cmu,
whatever
they're
asking
for
that's
what
right
now,
you
have
to
consider
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
recommend
or
not
recommend
to
city
council
based
on
the.
I
Presentation
certainly
defer
to
the
commissioners
on
whether
you
are
interested
in
in
seeing
anything.
The
goal
is
simply
to
provide
some
some
context
about
where
we're
headed
eventually,
but,
as
I
mentioned
at
the
beginning,
we're
going
to
be
here
a
lot
for
a
variety
of
different
zoning,
comprehensive
plan
and
certificate
of
appropriate
applications,
and
if
you
prefer
to
hear
those
details
at
that
point,
that's
certainly
fine
with
us.
B
Am
I
allowed,
am
I
allowed
to
ask
a
question
of
staff?
Okay,
would
it
be,
would
it
be
a
pro-
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
everybody
else
is
in
the
boat
and
I'm
floundering.
Would
it
be
appropriate
for
some
level
of
presentation
to
us
of
the
overall
picture
so
that,
as
these
pieces
come
through
the
blc
we
at
least
understand,
and
we
don't
have
to
go
through
what
he's
about
to
present
to
us?
We
don't
have
to
go
through
that.
Every
time.
E
B
And
I'm
not
talking
about
doing
it
today.
Is
there
something?
Yes,
that's
the
thing:
can
we
see
what
and
a
high
level
doesn't
have
to
be
a
lot
of
detail
but
a
high
level
of
here's?
What
you're
proposing
overall,
because,
as
you
keep
indicating
several
times
in
your
presentation,
it's
going
to
come
to
us
it's
going
to
keep
coming
to
us
and
if
we're
only
doing
piece
by
piece,
I
don't
think
that's
fair
to
us.
E
I
respect
what
I
understand
your
question
again:
kamari
pedis,
malcolm
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
tyler,
will
not
be
he
right
now
can't
give
you
the
whole
presentation
of
what
this
project
is
because,
as
he
previously
stated
that
it's
in
the
preliminary
phase,
what's
important
now
is
to
focus
on
the
changes
to
the
comp
plan
that
they're
asking
for
in
order
to
drive
where
this
product
project
is
going
to
go
and
again
this
is
just
a
recommendation
to
city
council.
Certainly
this
is
going
to
come
back
to
address
the
phases
of
the
project.
E
E
B
So
and
just
to
clarify
for
me
so
you've
asked
we're
talking
about
these
three
parcels
and
I
under
I
understand
that
piece
of
it.
So
I
didn't
mean
to
indicate
that
I
didn't,
but
those
three
parcels
are
obviously
a
piece
of
a
larger
picture,
so
I'm
going
to
approve
these
three
today
or
disapprove
them,
but
I
have
no
understanding
or
comprehension
of
how
my
decision
today
is
going
to
impact
this
tomorrow.
E
But
that's
for
mr
hudson
to
to
explain
that
if
you
have
additional
time
he
comes,
this
is
only
the
first
phase.
It's
only
about
the
change
to
the
comp
plan.
That's
what
we're
here
for
today
coming
down
the
future.
Whatever
mr
hudson
wants
to
do
with
the
project
and
his
client
wants
to
do
with
the
project.
That's
for
his
burden
to
prove
to
this
board
what
he's
trying
to
do
with
his
with
the
project,
that's
his
burden
to
prove
the
certificate
of
appropriateness
requirements.
E
G
B
C
F
B
G
B
B
B
E
We're
only
focusing
again-
and
I
I
I
hear
you-
we're
only
focused
on
the
change
in
the
comp
plan
recommendation
to
city
council.
You
will-
and
this
is
for
mr
hudson-
to
bring
this
back
to
this
board-
to
explain
further
the
scope
of
this
project,
but
this
phase
right
now
is
just
to
recommend
or
not
recommend
to
city
council
regarding
the
change
in
the
comp
plan.
F
From
ketler
is
going
to
show
us
some
more
of
what
that
plan
is,
I
don't
think
the
whole
thing,
but
at
least
more
portion
of
how
this
affects
this
particular
motion,
but
they
need
to
shuffle
the
deck
a
little
bit
with
their
the
comp
plan
to
be
able
to
perform
what
they
want
to
do
and
get
rid
of
that
light.
Industrial
zoning
which
prohibits
residential-
they
can't
put
any
residential
on,
and
this
is
primarily
that
parcel
they're
designating
as
a
residential
parcel.
F
H
B
To
you
to
us
as
the
blc
are
we,
I
guess
I
do
at
some
point
in
time
and
I
know
he's
trying
to
offer
us
information
and
we
keep
saying
no
wait.
We
don't
think
we
want
it.
So
I
understand
that,
but
at
some
point
in
time,
would
it
not
behoove
us
as
the
blc
to
understand,
especially
since
pieces,
understand
once
they
settle
it
in
am
I
making
sense
and
whatever.
B
G
F
J
B
And
you
shouldn't
right,
I
do
have
an
opinion
on
it,
but
I
won't
share
it
here,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
open
to
what's
being
presented,
that's
going
to
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
and
in
the
best
interest
of
the
historic,
which
I
think
we
always
do.
I
think
we're
pretty
good
about
that
as
a
board.
So,
okay,
I
I
appreciate,
go
and
have
that
having
this
conversation
with
me
today.
Thank
you.
I
If,
if
I
could
make
just
you
quick
comments,
the
the
first
is
that
there
is
certainly
no
manipulation
happening
here.
I
can
assure
you.
This
is
not
a
trial
balloon.
The
property
owner
developer
myself,
legions
of
architects
and
civil
engineers
have
spent
the
last
18
months
working
on
the
various
filings
that
are
going
to
need
to
be
made.
We
have
filed
pd
application,
number
rez
2195
for
eight
acres
of
tampa
park,
apartments
that
has
been
filed.
I
This
is
this
is
not
speculative
at
all,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
all
for
for
years
to
come
over
this
process
in
this
development,
which
is
going
to
have
dozens
and
dozens
of
governmental
requirements.
The
second
thing
I
just
like
to
comment
on
and
I
apologize
if
this
was
too
much
detail
as
you
can,
this
picture
sort
of
says
it
all.
This
is
a
large.
I
This
is
a
large
development
and
the
line
that
does
divide
the
historic
district
from
the
non-historic
portion.
It's
a
it's
a
series
of
straight
lines,
but
it
isn't
necessarily
even-
and
it
is
our
intent
with
this
development
that
you
don't
look
at
any
building,
and
you
see,
oh,
that's
clearly
where
the
historic
district
stops.
I
We
are
not
playing
hide
and
seek
with
this.
We
are
going
to
be
here
for
the
pd,
which
includes
portions,
that
are
not
in
the
districts
we're
going
to
be
here
for
the
pda,
which
includes
significant
portions
that
are
not
in
the
district
and
really
the
only
item
before
you
today
is
whether
this
green
box,
I'm
going
to
point
at.
I
But
the
only
question
before
you
today
is:
is
it
appropriate
that
you
cannot
live
in
that
green
box
and
that
only
industrial
uses
are
permitted?
That's
the
sole
question
before
you
today
there's
many
many
many
many
questions
before
you.
I
promise
in
the
months
and
years
to
come,
but
for
today
it's
that
simple.
Thank
you.
J
I
D
D
The
property
that
we're
speaking
about
is
here.
This
is
the
one
that
we're
going
to
focus
on
this
morning.
Having
said
that,
in
the
temp
comprehensive
plan,
imagine
20
20
40
plan.
It
also
has
some
language
in
there
that
protects
the
historic
district
along
the
periphery.
So
once
again,
this
was
the
line
of
the
historic
district.
So
you
have.
This
is
the
one
that
you're
going
to
focus
on
this
morning.
This
is
they're
asking
for
a
light
industrial
to
a
cmu
35.
D
The
cmu
35
is
a
compatible
change
to
the
a
budding
property
here,
along
with
the
second
box.
That
is
the
magenta
here.
This
is
also
a
cmu.
35
is
what
they're
asking
for.
So
this
is
a
compatible
change
as
well,
although
it's
not
part
of
the
request,
it
does
about
the
historic
district
boundaries,
so
it
should
be
taken
into
consideration
and
staff's
opinion
and
then,
lastly,
as
you
move
down
to
the
south,
which
flanks,
adamall
and
15th,
you
have
the
rmu
100,
which
is
the
most
intensive
fellaini's
classification.
D
That
is
a
budding
across
town
and
it
has
some
language
here
that
kind
of
ties
into
it,
but
also
along
that.
It
also
has
a
umu
60
to
the
east,
so
umu
60
is
the
classification
that
is
within
the
district
and
staff
would
like
to
see
that
this
umu
60
transfers
to
the
west
and
that
this
area
here
becomes
a
unu60
that
is
somewhere
between
the
cmu
35
and
the
rmu
100
that
they're
asking
for
today.
D
So
that's
what
we're
looking
for
here,
stating
that
the
language
and
the
imagine
2040
comprehensive
plan,
there's
some
language
on
page
106
of
policy
19.1.1
states
to
protect
the
character
of
the
historic
districts
by
adopting
land
development
regulations
within
the
designated
boundaries,
which
would
be
here
within
the
boundaries
and
along
the
periphery
of
the
districts,
to
ensure
that
the
development
does
not
adversely
affect
the
integrity
of
the
historic
resources
and
that's
here
along
the
periphery.
D
So
that's
where
we're
taking
our
position
so
today,
they're
asking
for
our
mu
hundred
here
and
we
believe
that
the
umu
60
is
a
compromise
because
it
does
cross
the
boundaries
of
the
historic
district
along
those
lines.
And
looking
at
the
conditions
that
are
on
page
three
of
your
staff
report,
there
were
some
concerns
about
the
contributing
structure.
We
wanted
the
applicant
to
touch
base
with
that,
and
that
will
be
a
discussion
at
a
later
public
hearing.
We
also
wanted
the
applicant
to
touch
upon
the
height
within
the
district.
D
As
you
kind
of
put
together,
your
motion
and
your
language
be
very
concise
and
direct
with
your
recommendation
to
counsel
you'll
probably
have
to
work
in
that
a
little
bit,
and
then
also
we
have
danny
collins
with
a
planning
commission
here.
I
believe
he
should
walk
up
to
the
podium
and
address
the
board
at
this
time.
Thank.
J
J
J
This
amendment
consists
of
six
folio
numbers,
the
northernmost
folios
within
the
local
historic
district.
That
will
be
the
parcel
that
you
will
be
reviewing
today
and
it
is
the
northernmost
parcel
on
the
on
the
map.
The
request
is
to
change
approximately
0.1
acres
from
the
light
industrial
to
the
cmu
35
designation.
J
J
The
proposed
amendment,
would
allow
for
consideration
up
to
three
dwelling
units
or
just
over
8
800
square
feet
of
non-residential
development.
The
request
would
remove
any
potential
of
industrial
uses
on
the
site
on
the
planet.
Commission.
I
reviewed
the
request
and
recommended
that
the
amendment
be
found
consistent
to
city
council.
J
E
I
The
the
darkest
purple
red,
I
guess,
is
how
that
presents
there
at
the
northwest
corner
of
adam
and
15th
street.
That
is
the
as
adopted
version
of
the
map,
which
is
what
we
are
requesting
with
rmu
100.
As
you'll
see
this
product.
This
parcel
has
rmu
100
to
the
west.
It
has
rmu
100
continuously
running
to
the
south.
I
We
believe
that
outside
the
historic
district
that
is
appropriate
in
light
of
the
fact
that
umu
60
within
the
historic
district
would
be
seen
as
the
absolute
minimum
that
you
could
do,
that
would
be
appropriate.
But
again
we
are
not
asking
for
more
than
we
need
in
terms
of
density
here.
This
is
rmu.
A
All
right,
thank
you,
so
I
believe
seeing
there's.
No
one
else
here
for
public
comment
that
there's
no
one
here
to
speak
for
or
against
this
application.
A
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
clarify
and
ask
a
question:
ask
ron
to
clarify
his
position
a
little
bit
just
because
the
way
that
tyler
had
presented
it
was
about
changing
from
light
use
to
cmg35.
On
that
one
lot
in
the
historic
district.
A
Look
but
ron
from
where
you
say,
staff
finds
the
inconsistencies
not
on
the
actual
lot.
That
is
asking
to
be
rezoned.
It's
at
that
rmu,
100
and
you're.
Looking
sets
on
the
border
of
the
historic
district
you're
looking
to
ask
for
a
compromise.
J
D
If
you
look
what's
here,
we're
comfortable
with
the
request,
that's
here
today,
the
cmu
35
is
compatible
with
the
surrounding
area,
as
well
as
the
the
property
that's
indicated
to
the
south,
which
is
also
cmu
35.
The
the
discussion
this
morning
that
we're
having
is
this
parcel
here,
they're
trying
to
blend
it
into
what's
to
the
west.
D
A
All
right,
thank
you,
and
is
there
anyone
that
can
tell
us
sort
of
the
the
difference
in
terms
of
far
and
what
what
can
be
developed
between
rm,
u100
and.
E
I
About
the
difference
between
li
and
rmu-100
and
in
our.
A
Umu
60:
well,
no,
we
know
it's
going
to
be
you're
wanting
to
change
it
so
between
rm
u100
and
then
umu
6d.
I
Sure
the
difference
is
that
umu
60
has
a
base.
Far
of
2.5
rmu
100
has
a
base.
Far
of
3.5
both
can
be
doubled
if
you're
in
the
cbd
periphery,
which
these
projects
are
and
then
from
a
residential
density
standpoint.
If
you
chose
to
develop
under
that
framework,
that's
where
the
difference
is
pretty
material.
Umu
60
has
a
base.
I
Entitlement
of
50
units
per
acre,
rmu
100
has
a
base
entitlement
of
100
units
per
acre,
and
the
problem
with
that
is
that,
given
there
is
discussion
about
eliminating
the
ability
to
develop
at
far
in
60
and
in
cmu
35,
that
could
create
a
situation
where
you're
essentially
capped
at
50
units
per
acre
in
the
u-60
area,
which
I
view
at
that
point.
I
Your
average
you
know
unit
size
is
going
to
be
you'll,
probably
start
with
an
eight
which
we
believe
is
inconsistent
with
the
growing
trend
in
this
area
for
larger
quantities
of
smaller
units.
So
that's
why
we're
asking
for
rmu
100
and
that's
why
I
believe
we
believe
it's
appropriate
and
I'll
handle
some
other
stuff
in
rebuttal.
But
if
that
answers
your
question.
A
F
I
have
a
couple:
let's
start
off
ron.
Your
preliminary
staff
report
that
I
received
in
our
packet
indicated
that
the
applicant
was
consistent
with
the
conditions.
That's
since
change
in
our
packet
in
front
of
us
today
is
that
primarily
driven
by
the
southern
parcel
on
admob
drive
and
the
rmu
100
versus
umu
60
conversation.
D
Or
are
there
other
concerns?
No,
that's.
That's
the
base
concern.
I
could
tell
you
that
camario
tyler
myself
were
on
phone
calls
as
late
as
five
o'clock
yesterday,
trying
to
gather
all
the
information
and
provide
you
with
the
most
accurate
presentation
this
morning,
but
that's
the
one
parcel
that
southern
person
parcel
that
abuts,
atomo
and
15th
is
the
one
in
question.
C
F
And
really
the
concern
there
is
that
that
parcel
of
butts
the
local
historic
district
and
you're
concerned
about
overbuilding
that
boundary
on
15th
to
a
higher
density
that
would
be
likened
to
the
adjacent
ume
60
parcel.
That
could
be,
but
you
know,
there's
no
plans
for
that
parcel
to
be
developed
at
this
point
in
time.
I
don't
believe
that
parcels
in
this
land
holders
portfolio.
F
D
F
So
it
might
have
been
helpful
to
see
the
presentation
from
ketler
because
you
know
I
I
think
the
issue
here
is
well
I'll.
Save
that
for
a
conversation
for
our
discussion,
part
for
tyler,
I
had
a
question
on
the
far
and
your
slide
11.
But
I
think
you
since
clarified
that
that
once
you're
in
the
cbd,
periphery,
the
fars
get
doubled,
correct.
F
We're
kind
of
we're
tied
to
the
yc6
height
limits
on
a
lot
of
these
parcels
that
are
currently
there.
But
it's
your
plan
that
a
lot
of
these
are
going
to
go
to
pd
and
pdas
so
that
you
can,
or
more
specifically
for
us
yc9
so
that'll
be
site
plan,
specific
development,
so
that
you
can
call
out
your
height
limits
as
needed
on
each
separate
parcel.
I
Yes,
sir,
and
those
will
come
before
you,
this
parcel
will
be
rezoned
to
yc9
in
connection
with
the
pda.
It's
going
to
come
before
you
for
a
recommendation
and
not
to
preview
my
rebuttal,
but
I
I
understand
ron's
concerns.
I
I
think
that
the
barrio
has
adequate
tools
based
on
the
design
standards
and
based
on
its
rezoning
recommendation
authority
to
ensure
that
the
density
we're
requesting
is
appropriately
constrained
and
then
those
are
going
to
be
in
future
hearings
that
will
absolutely
come
before
this
board,
but
yeah
yes-
and
I
I
can
represent
to
you
that
we
are
going
to
be
under
60
feet
for
the
the
parcel
that's
before
you
today
and
again.
This.
I
But
we
are
very
cognizant
of
those
and
we
have
worked
very
hard
to
to
be
respectful
of
those,
and
I
I
hope,
you'll
see
that
when
we
bring
you
the
first
iteration,
but
we
we
have
to
ask
for
these
comp
plan
changes.
We
need
the
numbers
because
again
we
are
going
to
be
presenting
you
with
a
28
acre
plan
and
some
of
the
density
is
going
to
be
shifted
in
various
places.
So
some
might
be
more
on
the
gas
works
parcel,
for
example,
which
is
more
distant
from
this
area.
I
F
Okay-
well,
it's
just
it's
reassuring
to
hear
that
from
you,
because
I
think
you
know.
I
think
that
staff's
concern
with
that
parcel
and
joining
the
the
local
district
and
there's
certainly
some
special
considerations
that
are
given
within
the
master
of
the
comp
plan.
For
that
you
know,
I
think
this
board
would
be
able
to,
as
you
said,
accurately
modify
or
limit
the
corner
of
the
development
as
it
abuts
the
historic
district
there.
So
that
will
come
before
us
in
a
separate
several
separate
motions,
I'm
sure.
F
So,
let's
talk
about
the
northern
parcel
where
you're
taking
that
house
from
this
plant.
I
see
another
light:
industrial
zoning
on
that
same
block,
that
on
third
avenue
in
republic
of
cuba.
I
They
actually
own
both
the
red
and
the
gray,
but
that
stubborn
portion
of
light
industrial
is
we're
working
with
them.
We've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
with
them
about
potentially
including
their
parcels
within
ours,
but,
as
as
you
can
imagine,
they're
a
little
reticent,
sometimes
to
get
involved
in
in
these
types
of
things.
So
if
we
could
have
changed
it,
we
certainly
would
have.
I
That's
light
industrial,
the
they're,
really
dark
gray
that
you
see
yeah,
you
can
see
on
screen.
That's
south
of
atomo
drive.
It
almost
looks
black,
that's
heavy
industrial
right,
which
is
fairly
similar
from
an
intensity
standpoint.
It
just
allows
louder,
smellier
uses.
F
E
C
E
E
F
E
Expressway,
I
don't
think
staff
has
any
findings
that
is
inconsistent
with
what
the
request
is,
because
it's
furthest
away
from
this
the
district,
but
most
is
what's
of
most
concern
are
the
parcels
that
are
abutting.
The
district.
F
E
And
if
you
want
to
and
when
a
commissioner
makes
the
motion
to
recommend
or
not
to
recommend
to
city
council,
I
know
that
there
are
three
separate
parcels.
I
have
the
folio
numbers
if
you
want
to
be
specific
about
each
parcel
for
the
folio
or
if
you
want
to
describe
it
so
that
it
goes
before
city
council
on
thursday,
so
city
council
will
know
what
this
commission
was
thinking
regarding
each
individual
parcel.
A
So
then,
my
only
questions
probably
goes
to
ron
and
camaria
as
well.
So
if
we
were
to
make
a
recommendation
or
if
the
zoning
for
I
think,
a
lot
that
staff
finds
inconsistent
gets
approved
for
rmu
100
as
sort
of
tyler
was
hinting
at,
do
would
any
development
on
that
parcel
have
to
come
back
in
front
of
our
board
for
us
to
give
design
recommendations
or
for
us
to
get
a
certificate?
Give
us
grant
a
certificate
of
appropriateness
since
it
borders
the
historic
district,
but
is
not
in
it.
A
A
D
I
If
I
could
just
add
that,
though,
these
are
going
to
be
rezoned
in
a
single
pda
that
is
going
to
come
before
you,
that
is
what
we
are
doing,
we're
going
to
probably
file
in
the
month.
But
of
course
you
do
have
to
consider
a
scenario
where.
I
The
parcel
changed
his
hands
later
today
and
then
they
just
developed
that
parcel
as
a
standalone.
That
is
possible.
But
I'm
here
to
tell
you
that
is
not
gonna
happen,
because
this
parcel
is
integral
to
the
master
plan
that
we're
going
to
that.
We
are
proposing
and
are
going
to
file
and
that
pda
will
be
before
you
as
a
single
rec,
21-something
application,
and
it's
going
to
include
the
parcels
that
are
in
the
historic
district
and
the
parcels
that
are
not
in
the
historic
districts.
So
just.
E
Reiterate
if
it's
coming
back
to
you
as
one
just
as
it's
one
plan
amendment
here,
if
it's
coming
back
to
you
as
one
rezoning
application,
then
you
will
be
able
to
justice
here.
We're
considered
you're
consid
you're,
considering
the
different
parcels
a
budding
and
in
the
district
you're
going
to
have
the
same
purview
at
that
time.
G
G
A
A
I
Thank
you,
commissioners.
I'd
like
to
again
just
sort
of,
I
think
the
picture
is
worth
a
thousand
words
which,
for
a
lawyer,
that
sometimes
means
a
lot
that
there.
I
The
presence
of
rmu
100
that
is
even
east
of
15th
street
and
it's
not
in
the
district,
but
we
are
going
to
have
these
jurisdictional
issues,
these
boundary
issues
for
every
single
application
that
we
come
before
you.
We
know
that
we've
known
that
for
a
long
time.
This
is
just
the
for
this
is
just
the
first
one,
and
I
and
I
you
know,
there's
trust
but
there's
trust
but
verify.
We
are
not
asking
for
more
density
on
this
parcel.
We
call
it
e7.
I
This
is
the
amount
of
density
that
we
need
in
order
to
make
the
program
that
we
think
best
fits
this
district.
I
I
respect
ron's
concerns.
I
don't
think
they
are
unreasonable,
but
I
think
there
is
a.
There
are
more
reasons
to
support
this
application.
As
filed
than
the
end.
There
are
not.
We
didn't
ask
for
umu
60
north
of
2nd
avenue
we
could
have.
We
thought
it
was
tailored
and
appropriate
again
to
pull
what
is
already
westward,
where
there
has
been
a
development
trend
east
over
to
that
boundary
line.
I
I
If
there
are
concerns
about
any
one
particular
parcel
in
the
course
of
your
discussion,
I
would
ask
for
a
consideration
of
reopening
the
public
hearing
to
discuss
that,
if
that
is
the
direction
of
the
commission,
and
with
that,
I
really
appreciate
your
time
and
your
questions.
So
thank
you.
A
F
F
I
think
that
it
all
boils
down
to
me
is
on
that
southern
parcel,
whether
our
rmu,
100
or
umu
60,
is
a
more
appropriate
use
there,
like
the
applicant,
said,
I
think,
and
and
we
discussed
that
there's
ample
opportunity
there
to
control
the
development
on
that
eastern
boundary
that
it
butts
the
lines
that
they
are
grouping
this
all
together,
I
mean
I
keep
going
back
to
you
know
the
the
map
in
here
with
the
staff
report
and
you
know
all
their
properties.
F
You
know
about
that
line.
So
you
know,
if
they're
doing
everything
as
one
big
master
plan
development,
then
I
think
there's
going
to
be
ample
opportunity
to
control
that
and
to
work
with
that.
I
don't
think
the
umu
one
rmu
100
there
is
excessive.
F
So
I
think
that
at
this
point
in
time,
I'm
willing
to
to
move
forward
with
with
that,
let
them
have
their
density.
As
long
as
you
know,
we
don't
need
to
put
it
on
the
record,
but
I
think
we
all
understand
that
that
that's
a
that
line,
15th
street,
is
an
important
boundary
that
needs
to
be
addressed
respectfully
for
the
district.
F
You
know
that's
a
certainly
appropriate
place
for
that
density
to
happen,
but
I
think
there
needs
to
be
controls
that
we'll
have
for
you
over
in
the
future.
So
I
think
this
is
a
good
way
to
frame
this
recommendation.
Moving
forward.
F
G
The
most
concern
to
me
is,
I
don't
have
a
camera
here.
Is
the
jog
in
the
red
line
that
goes
around
the
blue
house
and
why
it's
there,
whoever
drew
that
seems
to
me
to
be
what
I'm
not
against
development,
the
the
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
development.
It's
all
going
to
be
good
stuff,
but
I
took
the
oath
to
preserve
the
integrity
and
the
fabric
of
ebor
city,
so
we've
got
a
contributing
structure
and
that's
my
concern
the
jog
I'm
guessing.
G
G
I
took
to
be
on
this
board
to
protect
the
integrity
of
a
structure
that
was
built
in
1950,
and
it's
it's
it's
just
that
simple,
because
we
know
that
when,
when
the
planned
development
goes
in,
it's
going
to
be
great
but
and
it
will
have
influences
from
ibo
city-
that's
the
best
we
can
do,
but
it's
not
going
to
look
anything
like
igbo
city,
but
we'll
do
it,
but
where
we
have
a
plan
where
we
have
a
clear
contributing
structure,
I
don't
think
we
should
touch
it
and
in
that
in
that
fact
I
think
it
for
my
vote.
E
So
kamaria
pettis
mackel
again
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
This
is
I
there
is
a
contributing
structure
on
that
parcel.
But
this
is
not
about
the
contributing
structure.
This
is
about
the
comp
plan
and
whether
or
not
you
approve
or
want
to
make
a
recommendation
or
not
make
a
recommendation
to
city
council
to
change
it
from
light
industrial
to
what
they're
asking
for,
which
is
the
cmu
35
that
will
allow
for
residential
right
now
light
industrial
doesn't
allow
for
residential.
C
Okay,
jose
jose,
so
I
agree
with
the
plan
amendment.
I
think
I
agree
with
rich
his
comment
about
on
15th
street
those
two
selling
properties.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
chance
to
review
those
at
some
point.
C
B
Thank
you
so
much
for
presenting
your
thing
to
us
today
and
allowing
us
to
have
this
level
of
conversation.
I
can
I
agree
with
the
density
I
get
it.
I
understand
going
light
industrial
residential,
I'm,
okay.
With
that,
I
know,
there's
going
to
be
more
to
come,
I
think
it's
going
to
be.
I
think
we're
going
to
be
having
a
lot
of
conversation
amongst
us
on
how
we
move
forward
on
this
or
how
we
support
or
what
we,
what
our
contribution
is.
B
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
the
guidelines
and
the
oath
that
we
took.
I
understand
that
so
I
think
that's
why
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
as
things
are
coming
through
and
what
the
long-term
impact
is
going
to
be
and
what
that's
going
to
look
like.
So
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
A
A
I
I
do
worry
and
which
is
with
the,
I
think,
the
words
from
the
findings
of
staff
as
well,
that
we
wouldn't
get
a
chance
to
review
it,
except
that
you
presented
it
as
part
of
a
larger
master
plan
that
it
would
come
back
before
us,
and
I'm
wondering
if,
as
part
of
our
recommendation,
if
that
could
be
part
of
our
part
of
our
recommendation,
is
that
it
comes
back
to
us
as
part
of
a
larger
master
plan.
A
It
will
okay
so
that
that
that
blc
can
review,
and
so
with
that,
I'm
somewhat
comfortable
with
with
with
recommending
the
zoning
change
as
well
as
long
as
we
we
sort
of
have
that
sort
of
writer
on
it
that
it
comes
back
to
us
for,
for
us
to
review.
F
You
might
if
I
could
see
yeah
if
you
continue
our
conversation
here.
So
you
know
like
on
that
southern
southern
parcel.
I
mean,
if
you,
if
you
go
with
the
60,
I
mean
you're
just
hand
strapping
that
that
whole
parcel,
because
if
you
give
them
rmu,
then
that
you
know
it's
going
to
match
the
density
of
the
parcel
on
east
second
west
of
republic
of
cuba
and
the
guesswork
site,
which
is
the
next
one
over.
F
So
by
not
doing
that,
you're
immediately
having
them
step
down,
but
they
can,
in
other
words,
transition
from
that
higher
density
and
get
more
of
the
density,
maybe
on
the
western
side
and
then
step
down
on
the
eastern
side
of
that
which
they're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
if
they
do
the
60.
It's
just
going
to
be
flat,
which
is
acceptable.
But
that
just
gives
I
don't
think
they're
going
to
use
the
full
density
on
that
parcel.
But
at
least
they
have
that
yeah.
A
E
F
That
I'm
just
making
a
point:
okay,
my
fellow
commissioners,
because
they
that
we're
entitling
them
to
build
that
full
density
up
there
with
the
far
7
7.0
and
whatever
they
come
back
with
the
height
limit.
But
they're,
probably
not
going
to
use
it
all.
If
they're
going
to
step
down
on
the
eastern
side,
so
we're
giving
them
the
opportunity
to
use
that.
F
But
I
don't
think
they're
going
to
take
full
advantage
of
the
density
there
or
if
you
know,
maybe
they
will-
and
you
know
that
becomes
more
of
a
tower
on
the
west
side,
which
I
don't
think
is
appropriate.
So
we'll
that'll
come
back
in
front
of
us
at
some
point
in
time.
As
far
as
a
contributing
structure
is
a
contributing
structure.
So
you
know
that
that's
not
in
front
of
us
at
this
point
in
time
and
you
know
they
may
in
their
plans,
leave
it
alone
and
not
do
anything.
F
But
I
highly
doubt
that,
but
I
think
that's
kind
of
her
what
yeah.
But
I've
also
heard
that
you
know.
I
think
that
is
a
contributing
structure.
We
realize
how
important
that
is,
and
and
if,
if
they're
going
to
do
anything,
I
think
it
you
know
you're
going
to
go
to
a
relocation,
not
a
demolition,
so
I
think
them
being
responsible
in
their
endeavors.
I
think
that'll
come
that'll,
come
back
to
us
at
a
separate,
separate
point,
so
I'm.
A
E
And
just
for
a
little
guidance,
the
recommendation
or
whether
or
not
you
recommend
it's
going
to
be
to
recommend
or
not
to
recommend
to
city
council
to
approve
the
changes
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
amendment
from
light
industrial
to
cmu,
35
or
if
you
want
to
do
from
to
also
address
the
southern
parcels,
to
also
indicate
what
you
would
like
those
to
be.
E
F
C
F
D
Commission
ron
villa
staff
with
historic
preservation.
We
have
one
more
agenda
item,
which
is
the
election
of
officers.
We
do
have
a
full
board
this
morning.
It's
the
pleasure
of
the
board
if
you
want
to
go
through
with
the
election
of
officers
or
or
if
you
want
to
postpone
that
into
the
next
public.
D
B
B
C
E
B
A
And
they
can't
do
motions.
A
Good
emotions.
I
go
ahead
and
nominate
rich
rich
simmons
for
chair.