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Gwen
henderson:
sure.
item
number
5
--.
We
just
did
something
with
5.
bill
carlson:.
We
just
moved
it,,
but
I
wanted
to
say
that
there
was
a
port
board
meeting
on
monday.
and
this
was
supposed
to
coincide
with
the
report
from
the
port
board..
As
you
all
read
the
stories
or
look
at
the
port's
report,
in
is.
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With
north
americans
or
with
white
people.
and
the
white
people,
have
it
that
way
and
they
are
laughing
at
us..
Just
like
this
city
have
a
$2
billion
budget
and
they
are
laughing
at
us.,
not
one
word
in
it
about
reparations.,
but
they
run
us
around.
Like
dummies.,
you
take
the
average
african
person
in
america
--.
Let's
say
you
take
the
average
african
person
in
tampa,
they
probably
have,,
like,
a
third-grade
education..
Sometimes
you
need
a
little
self-criticism..
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J
J
J
suicide
killed
four
or
five
times
the
amount
of
the
population
than
guns
do,,
but
they
have
african
people
running
around
saying,
say
no
to
guns
because
they
don't
know
how
to
stay
out
of
the
way
or
the
white
people
have
them
terrified
of
guns.
white
people
aren't
giving
up
their
first
amendment
rights
or
second
amendment
receipts..
They
are
not
doing
it.
J
J
They
put
crazy
things
in
our
faces,
like
the
crazy
house
over
here
that
is
breaking
down.
They
talk
about
ray
charles
and
who
lived
there
and
whatsoever..
It
is
an
insult
to
african
people..
It
is
an
insult
to
african
people..
If
ray
charles
seen
that
house,,
we
make
a
negative
song
about
it.
yeah,.
You
can't
do
us
that.
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E
Standpoint.
morris
massey:
prohibits
for
build
fire
stations.
and
there
is
an
exception,
if
we
received
the
permission
of
all
the
taxing
authorities
that
pay
into
the
increment
fund
and
if
it
is
consistent
with
the
community
redevelopment
plan..
But
those
two
things
would
have
to
be
done
in
order
for
cra
funds
to
be
available
for
fire.
K
The
other
caveat
to
that
will
be
if
any
of
the
city
builds,
that
house
police
officers,.
Maybe
the
police
district
in
22nd,
street,,
councilwoman
henderson,.
If
that
building
was
purchased
or
that
property
was
purchased
with
cra
funds,,
maybe
one
of
the
things
to
look
into
if
that
property
was
purchased
with
cra
funds
and
for
the
board.
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L
By
goodness.
to
be
overrun,
I
have
been
gone
the
whole
summer.
Now
that
the
kids
are
back
in
school.,
we
had
a
wonderful
time
at.
L
L
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M
M
It
looks
like
you
are
proposing
what
I
heard
to
change
that
to
a
political
appointment
process,,
which
I
think
will
eliminate
the
obligation
of
those
people
serving
to
truly
be
committed
to
the
community,
and
more
concerned
of
maintaining
their
appointment
position.,
because
if
they
don't
do
what
I
guess
you
want
them
to
do,,
they
risk
not
being
reappointed.
Next
year.,
I
was
elected.,
guess
what
I
get
to
do?.
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M
M
the
east.
Tampa
cra
cac
have
gone
through
a
great
transformation,
as
has
that
community..
We
finally
have
a
extremely
competent,
caring,
concerned
and
knowledgeable
manager
who
built
out
his
staff
and
they
are
doing
great
things..
We
now
finally
have
a
new
director
who
can
now
provide
some
high
level
guidance.,
and
I
think
those
people
need
some
time
to
fill
in
those
positions
before
this
change
will
be
made..
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N
N
N
N
N
N
Take
to
can
eliminate
baby
up
to
ten
months..
They
should
put
those
pills
in
the
garbage
can..
A
woman
could
take
control
of
her
own
body,
and
ain't
have
nothing
to
do.
--
the
world
it
going
--.
The
united
states
is
going
down
to
nothing.,
and
it
is
so
sad
that
we
don't
want
to
help
people
that
talk.
N
N
N
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
O
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and
I
was
mere
last
year
telling
you
about
some
exciting
projects
that
were
coming
up.
and
we
were
forming
and
getting
them
together
and
guess,
what,.
We
are
way
on
our
way,
--
way
on
our
way,.
If
that
makes
sense.,
we
have
four
major
projects
going
on..
We
have
a
full
board
currently.,
we
had
some
changeover
and
we
are
happy
to
say
we
are
a
full
board
right
now.
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Johnsen
architects.,
looking
at
the
gateway
of
grady
and
lois
avenue,
and
looking
at
improvements
on
landscaping
and
maintenance
and
so
forth.,
and
it
is
more
than
looking
pretty..
We
deal
and
work
with
a
lot
of
trucks
coming
in
and
out:
there,
dump,
trucks,
huge
trucks,,
small
trucks,
and
a
lot
of
business
and
a
lot
of
activity
going
on..
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R
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E
S
E
S
E
T
T
T
T
and
I
am
sure
that
if
maybe
someone
wants
to
make
a
motion
at
the
end
for
something
to
come
back
on
that
in
90
days
or
whatever,,
please
be
sure
to
follow
up
with
us
and
maybe
in
like
a
month
or
two
and
hopefully
we
can
have
an
answer
for
you.,
whether
it
is
community
policing
or
anything.
We
can
do
with
cra.
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Q
Q
I
will
provide
verbal
updates
what
we
have
been
doing
and
a
presentation
on
our
vision,
mission
and
objective
and
move
into
the
fiscal
year
2024
budget
presentation..
I
will
be
up
here
for
a
while
and
look
forward
to
the
discussion.
over
the
last
month,.
We
have
been
working
alongside
residents
and
closely
with
our
staff
and
managers
to
make
sure
we
are
addressing
the
cac
policy
update
with
care
and
concern..
Q
Q
also,,
I
have
been
listening
to
each
one
ever
you
in
your
priorities
and
goals
and
needs,
as
well
as
some
of
the
findings
that
came
out
of
the
cra
board
retreat.,
and
all
of
that
has
shaped
the
objective,,
the
mission,,
the
vision,
and
the
values
of
the
cra
agency..
So
a
lot
of
time
went
into
that
and
will
really
set
the
foundation
for
all
of
our
benchmarks,
measurables
and
programs
to
come..
Q
We
also
have
been
spending
a
lot
of
time
in
technology
and
really
scoping
out
software.
That
is
going
to
automate
some
of
our
processes
and
make
it
more
efficient
to
be
able
to
track
our
progress,,
our
spending
and
our
goals..
What
we
are
looking
for,
project
management
and
grant
management
is
thee-builder
software..
Q
Q
Q
Q
They
have
been
really
supportive
in
providing
resources,,
staff,
and
learn
of
our
programs..
They
will
can
experts
in
cra
as
well..
Another
soft
ware
we
have
been
looking
at
is
job
order,
contracting
known
as
the
joc
program..
This
is
what
we
will
use
as
we
implement
our
housing
strategies..
You
may
have
heard
of
the
program
before.,
but
we
are
working
closely
with
purchasing
to
make
sure
we
have
highly
--
highly
qualified
vendors
and
contractors.
Q
Q
thank
chair,
henderson
for
a
great
quote
and
help
set
up
and
celebrate
the
accomplishments
within
the
cra..
We
have
the
very
first
tampa
landing
page.
previously,
when
you
went
to
our
web
site,
it
jumped
you
into
the
district,
but
which
want
to
teach
of
the
tampa
cra
as
a
whole
and
use
our
logo
and
brand
to
get
that
identification
out
there.
So
people
can
learn
what
cras
are,,
what
our
mission
is,,
what
our
objectives,
are,
and.
Q
Q
They
are
in
card
format,
so
they
are
visually
appealing..
I
also
have
been
working
really
hard
on
a
comprehensive
grant
audit
for
all
of
our
grant
pros
programs
in
all
of
our
districts..
Some
have
more
grant
opportunities
than
others..
Some
have
been
highly
utilized.,
some
have
not..
We
are
really
looking
at
all
of
our
offerings
and
seeing
what
is
going
to
be
the
highest
impact
and
the
best
benefit
for
the
community..
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
jeffrey
burton,,
has
accepted
a
position
with
manatee
county..
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that,
and
the
community
watching
and
publicly
thank
jeff
for
all
of
his
time,
resources
and
knowledge
he
pushed
into
tampa
bay..
I
know
he
will
be
missed,
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
him
very
much
for
all
of
his
service.
Q
Q
Perfect.,
so
the
next
few
slides
really
focus
on
our
mission,
vision
and
objectives..
We
look
at
our
current
mission
and
also
the
proposed
mission
and
key
objectives
based
on
your
feedback
and
looking
forward
to
the
discussion..
You
can
stop
me
at
any
time
or
if
I
could
finish
the
presentation
and
go
back
to
any
slide
and
we
can,
you
know,
hash
up
and
get
any
feedback
that
you
may
have..
Q
Q
Q
Q
Vision.,
our
current
vision
is
the
tampa
community
redevelopment
agency
will
preserve
and
improve
its
areas
by
identifying
and
initiating
redevelopment
activities
to
empower
residents,
businesses
and
community
stakeholders
to
enhance
and
improve
both
the
residential
and
commercial
areas
of
each
of
the
cra
districts,
resulting
in
economic
growth
and
quality
of
life..
The
proposed
vision
brings
more
of
that
vision
into
play,
where
tampa
cra
champions
the
future,
where
vibrant
businesses
and
neighborhoods
flourish
through
proactive,
and
empowering
residents,
businesses
and
stakeholders
for
economic,
prosperity,,
creativity
and.
Q
Develop
and
maintain
effective
working
relationships
and
community
partnerships
with
residents,
stakeholders
and
businesses.
identify
potential
developments
and
investment
opportunities
with
long-term
economic
benefits.
maintain
financially
secure
budget
for
each
one
of
the
community
redevelopment
area.
Annually.
provide
transparent
communication
to
the
public
regarding
cra
programs,
projects.
Q
Q
While
all
these
objectives
are
important,,
I
would
like
to
recommend
them,
be
our
responsibility
to
maintain
financially
secure
budgets
and
be
transparent.
so
moving
into
proposed
objectives.
we
have
five..
This
will
really
set
the
foundation
for
all
of
our
programming
and
metrics
that
are
to
be
developed
next..
We
have
attainable
housing,.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Encourage
entrepreneurialship,
innovation
and
revitalization.
encourage
local
arts
to
celebrate
the
history
and
culture
of
unique
spaces
that
attract
visitors,,
foster
creativity
and
generate
economic
activity.
and
to
support
businesses
by
creating
access
to
capital
and
grant
funding
that
fuel
expansion
for
job
creation..
Q
Q
Q
G
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G
By
creating
thriving
and
development
--
to
me,
development
is
a
subset
of
that.,
but
development.
--
development
gets
into
the
ediface
complex
that
we
have
where
everything
--
and
before
morris
cuts
me
off,.
I
know
cra
is
limited,
how
we
can
use
it
and
has
to
be
for
physical
infrastructure,,
but
we
need
to
be
working
on
--
in
the.
G
Past,,
as
we
are
going
to
see
in
a
little
while,
cra
money
was
use
to
subsidize
developers,
and
now
we
will
use
it
to
make
communities
better..
We
need
to
improve
in
places
like
east
tampa
--.
Instead
of
paying
to
tear
down
buildings,,
we
need
to
--
where
big
high-rises
will
go
in,.
We
need
to
improve
the
streets,
sidewalks,
schools
and
parks,
so
people
can
live
in
a
better
way.,
and
so
I
--
anyway,,
that
is
one.
G
G
G
Homes.
to
help
people
buy
the
only
way
to
beat
inflation.
looks
like
from
the
mayor's
people
own
predictions.
That
tampa
is
going
through
a
recession
and
an
unique
presession
because
of
the
economic
strategies
over
the
last
12
years,,
and
if
that
happens,,
the
pricing
for
houses
may
go
down
and
we
need
for
people
to
lock
in
whatever
the
price
is,
so
they
can
be
locked
in
the
future..
G
The
only
way
to
beat
inflation
is
to
help
people
buy
their
own
homes..
If
we,
as
city
council,
don't
have
100%
control
over
the
city
budget,,
we
do
over
the
cra
budget
opinion..
The
cra
budget
is
30%
this
year
of
the
overall
city,
housing
budget,,
but
we
desperately
need
to
reverse
the
numbers
and
spend
it
more
money.
Helping
people
buy
homes.
otherwise,.
Every
year
we
will
be
putting
out
money
to
help
subsidize
rent
and
a
never-ending
thing.
what
we
are
proposing
with
a
tax
increase,.
G
G
G
G
G
Lines.,
we
might
subsidize
the
--
the
trolley
car
a
little
bit
and
we
do
a
little
bit,,
but
then,
if
transportation
is
seen
with
being
equal
with
housing
and
the
other
things,
we
will
get
all
the
different
crazy
ideas.
Like
the
downtowner
thing
that
we
subsidized
for
many
years
and
failed.,
we
need
to
focus
on
what
we
can
do..
If
we
say
we
are
trying
to
solve
transportation
with
the
cra
money,.
This
no
way
we
can
do
it.
G
We
can
work
on
bicycle
lanes
and
crosswalks
and
things
and
slightly
help
mass
transit,.
But
we
are
not
going
to
solve
the
transportation
issue.,
the
last
thing..
Can
you
go
to
economic,
development,
please.?
I
think
you
should
put
the
top
one
on
the
bottomed
and
the
bottom
one
at
the
top.,
the
problem
doctor,
the
fundamental
problem
with
the
edc
and
the
fact
that
tampa
outsources
economic
development
here
is,
we
focus
100%
on
reals.
I
I
I
agree
on
one
area.
in
the
area
to
me
is
development.
and
--
development
is
creating
something
new.,
something
vibrant
for
some
community..
It
means
the
same
thing
as,
you
can't
have
a
community.
Without
development.-
you
can't
have
development
without
a
community
that
needs
change..
That
is
how
I
see
that.
I
and
that
made
a
difference
in
the
appearance
of
something
that
those
businesses
that
were
there
halfway
dying
are
now
at
least
much
better
prepared,,
and
I
would
imagine
some
increase
in
business,,
because
the
boulevard
--,
I
call
it
the
boulevard
that
was
never
there.
and
it
is
really
had
an
opening
thing.
when
you
dry
through
there,.
You
want
to
feel
like
you
are
part
in
it.,
because
it
is
so
nicely
done.
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Erica
moody:
thank
you.,
gwen
henderson:
board
member
maniscalco.,
guido
maniscalco:.
Thank
you
very
much..
Councilman
carlson
has
been
saying
something
I
have
been
saying
for
a
few
weeks:
now..
We
need
to
get
people
to
permanent
housing.
Instead
of
the
endless
cycle
of
rent
and
rent
increases.,
we
are
subsidizing
landlords..
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20
million
or
something
--
$22
million,
and
it
was
300
units,,
maybe
more,-
to
get
people
off
the
street
--
families
off
the
street.,
not
just
individuals,
because
not
everybody
accepts
families.,
but
it
was
outside
the
cra
boundaries
and
we
couldn't
use
the
money
for
that.
however,.
You
know,
in
going
through
the
budget
that
you
are
going
to
bring
up.,
and
I
am
looking
at
the
numbers
per
district..
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I
wholeheartedly
agree
with
his
assessment
of
where
we
are
as
a
city
and
where
we
should
be
going..
The
only
thing
I
will
say,
on
the
development
term,.
I
think
that
is
in
the
eye
of
the
reader..
A
development
could
be
like
building
a
grocery
store
in
a
food
desert.,
how
you
read
it
and
what
your
prejudice
are
for
that..
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homeownership.
habitat
for
humanity.,
some
of
the
programs.?
We
talked
about
this
a
little
bit.,
some
of
those
nonprofits.
habitat..
They
have
the
banking..
They
can
buy
that
mortgage
down
to
make
it
very
affordable,
downpayment
assistance.,
to
have
people
own
that
dirt
and
own
their
house.
with
that
being
said,.
This
is
an
opportunity
--.
I
know
you
heard
it
from
me,
and
a
lot
of
staff
will
not
be
happy
with
what
I
am
going
to
say,,
but
I
am
going
to
say
it.,
I
still
--.
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Land.,
that
is
where
you
create
generational
wealth..
The
structure
itself
is
created
by
materials
that
have
a
market
value
of
what
they
were
when
they
were
new,,
plywood,
nails
and
labor.
To
put
that
structure
up.
as
time
goes
on,,
especially
over
longer
periods
of
time,,
that
home
becomes
a
depreciating
asset..
During
that
duration,
takes
a
lot
of
maintenance
and
control.,
but
the
house
itself.
--,
all
houses
come
down
and
the
actual
value
of
the
property
is
the
land..
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gwen,
henderson:,
good
member,,
viera.,
luis
viera:.
Thank
you,,
madam
chair..
A
couple
of
comments
I
want
to
address,
which
is
number
one
with
the
housing
issue,.
It
is
important.
We
make
people
stakeholders.,
there
is
kind
of
--
and
I
don't
want
to
merge
city
with
--
city
council
with
cra,,
but
I
go
to
some
of
the
spending
that
I
was
talking
about
from
the
new
proposed
millage
rate,
which
has
what
I
call
the
stimulus,
mentality.
arpa
money,
cares
money,.
It
is
running
out
and
let's
raise.
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Struck
down
in
the
florida
supreme
court
because
of
issues
with
the
independent
committee
because
of
legal
issues.,
I
am
not
going
to
comment
on
that..
I
have
a
lot
of
respect,
whether
the
circuit
court,
with
judge
vargas
and
the
florida
supreme
court.
judge,
moe,
wonderful
job,
struck
down
the
second
all
for
transportation..
What
I
call
the
case
law
saying:
when
do
you
a
voter
initiative,?
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We
need
density.,
we
need
for
people
to
be
buying
in
co-ops,,
multifamily
housing
units
and
then
moving
on.
using
this
as
the
steppingstone,
and
not
seeing
this
as
the
generational
wealth
of
this
particular
property
that
they
are
moving..
That's
what
--.
That
is
what
our
parents
did..
They
started,
--
they
had
a
starter
home
and
they
traded
up
and
then
they
traded
up..
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G
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Viera's
comment.
my
comment
of
all
for
transportation.,
the
narrative..
If
you
look
at
that
issue,,
we
need
money
for
infrastructure..
Everybody
understands
that
we
need
more
money
for
transportation..
It
sounds
like
from
some
of
the
voting
that
maybe
the
majority
of
people
in
the
city
of
tampa
also
agreed
that
we
need
money..
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140,000
can
beat
a
$4
million
campaign,.
That
means
they
didn't
know
what
they
were
doing..
One
of
the
basic
things
they
didn't
do
was
talk
to
the
other
side..
We
can't
move
forward
as
community
unless
we
change
the
approach
and
have
the
bigger
conversations..
My
comments
are
about
--.
Now
there
is
a
discussion
again
of
running
another
campaign
for
cit
or
another
campaign
for
all
for
transportation..
What
I
am
saying
to
everybody,,
including
the
thunders,
we
need
to
come
up
with
a
completely
new
approach.,
can't
use
the
same
people..
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then
the
following
year,
600
people
buy
homes.
a
way
to
protect
our
capital.
If
we
can
work
a
way
to
make
morris
happen
to
keep
building
on
the
capital
to
putting
money
in
a
strategic
way
to
get
at
that
back.
right
now,
we
are
paying
every
year
a
way
to
compound
our
money
and
do
more,
the
only
way
we.
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one.
Last
quick,
thing.,
the
community
land
trust..
I
am
not
opposed
to
doing
a
experiment
beta
test
in
a
small
scale..
I
don't
want
--.
I
know
erica
and
others
have
heard
this
from
me
already..
I
don't
want
to
necessarily
dive
in
head-first
on
this
and
invest
a
lot
of
money
until
we
really
understand
the
entire.
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As
far
as
transportation
is
concerned,,
tampa
proper
overwhelmingly
supports
transportation,
needs.
and
I
do
believe
in
the
land
trust..
I
think
that
works.
I,
of
course,
am
not
the
expert.,
but
ultimately,.
We
will
have
to
circle
back,
because
that
is
something
that
we
will
have
to
address.
up.
Want
you,
as
the
director,
based
on
the
comments
you
heard..
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Recognizing
the
importance
of
transitional
housing
and
steppingstones,
we
can
take
to
acquire
wealth
and
generational
wealth
for
years
to
come
beyond
us..
I
appreciate
everyone's
discussion..
This
is
what
this
is
for
for
everyone
to
talk
about
it.,
almost
like
a
little
workshop
session..
So
I
really
do
appreciate
it..
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That
wants
to
accident
in
okay,
board
member
carlson
gets
to
speak
again.
bill
carlson:.
I
mentioned
this
the
other
day,
but
the
new
state
law
that
resulted
in
the
story
of
--.
I
think
it
is
called
bayshore
towers.
They
are
building
in
st.
pete,
the
other
day..
I
don't
know
how
many
units
are
may
have
as
much
as
a
45
million.
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Thank
you
so
much..
I
really
appreciated
the
conversation
around
the
community
land
trust..
I
will
say
if
you
want
to
discuss
it
more
under
new
business,
deputy
administrator
alis
drumgo
in
the
room
and
connect
one
on
one
offline
and
get
into
the
technicalities
of
the
community
land
trust..
We
have
to
take
innovative
approaches
and
get
creative
with
housing
and
make
it
accessible
for
all
people
in
tampa.
And
the
third
thing
is,
I
do
have
the
fiscal
2024
budget
under
the.
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38%
increase.,
some
of
the
projects
and
initiatives
in
downtown
are
the
main
street
corridor..
We
are
looking
at
marion
revitalization
of
marion
street,,
as
well
as
our
commitment
to
tampa
theatre,
straz
and
additional
commitments
there
that
we
will
discuss
later
on
in
the
presentation
and
the
master
infrastructure
fund
as
well.
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They
have
the
facade
grant
program.
several
programs
around
residential
exterior
improvement..
They
have
infrastructure
improvements
like
sidewalks
and
bike
lanes,,
as
well
as
revitalizing,
some
of
the
parks,
building
a
potential
new
neighborhood
park,,
the
tampa
bay,
linear,
park,,
sidewalk
connectivity
as
mentioned,,
as
well
as
the
lois
and
grady
street
gateway
that
miss
astorquiza
had
talked
about..
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Bill
carlson:,
that's
all
I
have.
thank
you.
gwen
henderson:
board
member
clendenin.
alan
clendenin:
hello.
me
talking
again.
gwen,
henderson:
yes.
alan
clendenin:
question
for
you.
on
--,
specifically
--,
really
on
all
of
them,,
but
specifically
the
thing
I
am
concerned
about,
because
I
still
can't
get
past
this,,
downtown
and
channelside
cras
and
the
significant
amount
of
money
and
affordable
housing..
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An
effective
way.
we
can
look
through
the
budgets
and
shift
and
accomplish
that
and
use
this
money
for
transportation
and
use
other
money,.
Maybe
double
down
on
housing,
shift
monies
from
the
general
fund
to
double
down
on
housing,.
I
think
that
may
be
advisable
as
well..
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
to
that
is,,
but
I
look
forward
to.
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Company,
west
tampa,,
sulphur,
springs.,
sheeper
and
easier
could
continue
to
struck
because
of
building
types.
dense
area
like
downtown
and
channel
district,.
The
land
values
are
higher
as
well.
on
top
of
that,.
Your
construction
type,
by
which
you
will
need
to
construct
unit,
is
also
more
expensive..
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Understanding
that
you
might
be
providing
a
deeper
subsidy
based
on
certain
local
--
localities
is
a
--
is
an
approach
to
that.,
but
director
moody
did
go
through
and
pull
some
numbers
to
give
an
understanding
of
what
it
will
look
like
to
rent
or
to
live
in
various
parts
of
the
city.
pi.
Think
that
speaks
more
to
th
inequity
that
we
have
relative
to
the
access
of
those
units.,
and
so,
as
a
board,.
You
all
just
stated
that
you
wanted
to
really,.
You
know,
improve
that
gap,
right..
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Pieces
of
ybor
city.
that
ship
has
sailed
on
land
value.,
so
expensive.
just
how
many
people
--
how
many
houses
--
housing
units
can
we
build
for
x
amount
of
money.
limited
amount
of
money.?
That
is
what
we
have
got..
What
is
the
maximum
number
of
people?
We
can
--,
we
can
take
care
of
and
help
and
get
them
into
housing.
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Only
just
business
practice,,
but
really
humanitarian
practice
to
know
--,
because
if
we
build
two
for
a
million
in
channelside,,
that
means
there
is
another
15
or
20
families.
We
are
not
going
to
help.
either
they
will
have
to
move
somewhere
else
or
live
on
the
streets..
We
are
actually
leaving
people
out
of
the
system
by
spending.
So.
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Alan
clendenin:,
I
do.
gwen
henderson:
board
member
clendenin.
alan
clendenin:,
sorry.,
gwen
henderson:,
no
problem.
alan
clendenin:
for
councilmember
hurtak,.
How
do
you
--,
if
you
can
help
two
families
in
an
area
very
close
to
the
urban
core
versus
20
families?
--
sorry,,
two
families
in
the
urban.
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Thank
you
very
much
for
your
conversation.
gwen
henderson:
board,
member
hurtak.,
lynn,
hurtak:.
Let
me
clarify.,
I
am
not
at
all
saying
we
don't
need
a
fire
station
downtown.,
charlie
miranda:.
I
know
what
you
mean.
lynn
hurtak:.
I
felt
the
need
to
clarify
that.,
because
I
know
you
are
playing
devil's
advocate..
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Bill
carlson:
can
I
say
one
quick,
thing.,
gwen
henderson:
board
member
carlson.
bill
carlson:,
you
may
want
to
go
last..
I
philosophically
agree
that
we
should
have
affordable
housing
everywhere.
right
now
we
have
an
urgent
crisis
to
build
50,000
units.,
I
will
say:
let's
use
the
money
to
build
as
quickly
as
possible
in
as
many
places
that
wick.
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Of
people
just
like
it
is
in
other
places
in
the
community.,
and
it
will
take
away
the
diversity
because
it
won't
be
affordable..
We
have
to
fight
for
affordability
of
spaces
n
downtown
cras..
That
is
really
important.,
because
the
variety
of
things.,
the
people
who
work
down
here,
who
want
to
live
close
to
where
they
work.
and
they
are
in
our
service
industry
and
our
hotels..
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Guido
maniscalco:
okay.
thank
you
very
much.,
gwen
henderson:,
deputy
administrator
drumgo.
alis
drumgo:
thank
you,,
madam
chair.
hearing
the
comments,.
I
don't
want
to
add
more
to
the
discussion..
You
all
have
a
great
business
acumen
and
you
work
through
this
with
logic..
The
cra
is
not
meant
to
be
a
revenue
generator
all
the
time.
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Budget.
gwen
henderson:
any
further
discussion?
board
member
clendenin.
alan
clendenin:.
I
am
going
as
a
principle
--
weird
for
knee,.
I
am
not
going
to
vote
in
favor
of
it
because
of
the
allocations
of
the
downtown
until
I
reach
--
until
I
have
some
level
of
comfort,
this
is
the
best
use
of
taxpayer
money
that
spending
that
money
in
those
two
areas
--
that
much
money,,
because
I
can't
get
past
how
much
good
we
can
do
in
other
areas
with
taxpayer
money.
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Next.
staff
will
come
up
manager
by
manager
and
present
on
their
district..
They
have
been
so
supportive
of
the
changes
as
well..
They
know
it
will
increase
our
impact
in
efficiency
and
they
have
been
adapting
to
these
changes
so
gracefully,
which
I
really
appreciate:
kate,
it..
The
first
is
drew
park
and
west
tampa
c
rra
manager.
Mr.
jesus.
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Cra.
west
tampa
is
always
booming.,
always
rocking
and
rolling..
We
never
don't
have
something
to
do
out
there..
We
are
always
making
improvements.,
but
the
highlights
I
have
before
you
is
the
west
tampa
alleyway
plan.,
a
pilot
project
that
cra
is
funding..
The
project
manager
is
tha
is
the
city's
planning
division,.
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Used
by
stormwater
to
look
at
and
see
if
we
can
possibly
use
any
stormwater
money
to
improve
those
alleys.,
the
ones
used
as
stormwater
and,
of
course,
parks..
I
do
believe
that
alleys
are
a
great
green
space,,
especially
now..
I
bet
you
run
into
a
lot
of
residents
out
walking
in
the
alleys
right
now
because
of
the
ones
covered
and
shaded.
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Closed.
houses
are
built.
if
there
is
a
new
development
where
there
are
no
houses
and
developed.
This
way,
100%
successful.,
but
I
have
doubt
on
the
success
of
it
and
the
term
of
years.
It
will
take
to
do
that.,
because
if
we
have
one
house
that
has
burned
down
or
whatever
for
whatever
reason,,
you
have
nine
that
are
still
parking
in
the
front.
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Various
departments
that
would
be
involved
in
that.,
guido
maniscalco:
okay.
with
regards
to
the
summer
youth
career
program,.
This
is
--.
This
is
wonderful.,
you
know,
when
we
help
each
other.
and
we
are
helping
the
future
of
this
community.
up.
Know
you
talk
of
help
with
their
resume.
help
with
--.
It
is
opening
doors
that
may
not
have
been
open
and
offering
better
opportunities
for
the
future..
U
B
B
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Y
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
Z
This
is
the
bell
from
central
avenue..
This
is
what
you
heard
on
a
sunday
morning
on
central
avenue..
Hopefully
we
also
will
get
it
recorded
so
that
sound
can
be
maintained
historically.,
but
we
will
be
partnering
with
tampa
housing
authority
with
that.,
that
is
in
the
budget.
tampa
heights,
working
on.
Z
Z
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
U
V
V
Z
Z
V
V
E
E
V
V
V
S
V
I
V
Make
it
into
a
motion,
so
they
direct
it
back.
lynn,
hurtak:
sure..
I
will
make
motion
for
you
to
sends
all
of
us
an
e-mail.,
because
we
need
this
information
way
before
the
september
--
before
next
meeting..
So
you
can
sends
all
of
us
an
e-mail
giving
us
information
about
where
that
parking
money
is
coming
from
and
if
we
could
possibly
use
it.
--.
G
G
G
G
Least
in
the
short
term,,
it
will
go
into
a
housing
fund
or
road
fund
or
whatever
fund
we
want,
instead
of
doing
it
piece
by
piece..
We
know
at
least
outside
of
downtown,
places
like
east
tampa,.
Folks
have
adamantly
said
they
don't
want
to
do.
The
transfer
payments.
want
the
city
to
pay
for
what
they
will
pay
for,
and
the
city's
cdc
will
be
on
top
of
it.