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C
Thank
you
so
we're
picking
up
where
we
loved
off
director
Moody
with
our
I
think
we're
item
number
four
right.
Yes,
ma'am!
Yes,
ma'am
item
number
four.
E
So
my
priority
is
to
make
sure
that
when
a
motion
is
passed,
we
fully
answer
the
motion
and
don't
take
it
in
a
different
direction.
So
we
want
to
be
really
specific,
with
responding
to
your
request
and
making
sure
that
we
are
passing
that
motion
a
little
bit
of
background
and
overview
about
the
CAC.
The
last
time
that
the
policy
was
updated
was
in
2019
and
the
last
time
that
the
CRA
bylaws
were
updated
was
in
2008..
E
This
topic
was
Revisited
at
the
June
8th,
CRA
board
retreat,
and
we
had
a
great
discussion
on
with
board
members
and
really
the
need
for
more
clarity.
Around
CAC
roles
and
responsibilities
and
consensus
was
built
around
updating
the
policies
and
restructuring
the
cacs
to
become
independent
of
other
organizations
and
to
also
explore
the
a
way
to
expand
Community
representation
across
the
district.
E
So
with
that
on
July
20th,
the
following
motion
passed,
the
CRA
staff
was
requested
to
draft
the
following
revisions
to
the
cra's
current
Community
advisory
committee
policy,
for
consideration
by
the
CRA
board
to
revise
the
criteria
and
the
selection
process
for
new
CAC
members
for
the
Ebor
City
in
East
Tampa.
Community
redevelopment
areas
to
what
is
currently
in
place
for
the
other
cacs.
E
This
is
in
lieu
of
the
board
of
directors
for
ycdc
in
the
Ebor
CRA
and
the
East
Tampa
Community,
revitalization
Partnership
for
the
East
Tampa
cra.
We're
also
asked
to
provide
a
timeline
and
a
transition
process
for
changing
the
membership
of
the
Ybor
City
CAC
in
the
East
Tampa
CAC,
as
it's
currently
constituted
in
the
Cara's
current
policy
and
recommend
any
additional
changes
or
clarifications
that
might
be
useful
in
connection
with
the
current
CAC
policy
and
that
these
revisions
be
brought
to
today,
which
is
August
17th
2023..
E
So
propose
revisions
to
the
CAC
policy
mostly
are
around
appointments,
so
all
cacs
will
complete
the
application
process
and
now
be
appointed
by
the
CRA
board.
A
ycdc
in
the
East
Tampa
Community
revitalization
Partnership
will
be
separate
organizations
from
the
CAC,
but
still
serve
as
ex-officios.
The
East
Tampa
community
redevelopment
plan
is
currently
being
updated
to
reflect
this.
E
So
that
is
around
appointments.
Then
we
have
composition,
size
and
terms.
Each
CAC
will
be
limited
to
15
members
Max,
so
a
quorum
is
often
reached
and
meetings
can
occur.
Members
will
be
elected
for
two-year
terms
and
can
be
re-elected
to
serve
for
a
consecutive
two
years
at
a
four-year
Max
consecutive
term
limit.
Then
someone
else
will
come
and
provide
their
services.
E
We've
updated
the
ex
officios
to
reflect
even
greater
community
and
stakeholder
representation,
and,
if
x,
officio,
does
not
refer
new
representation.
After
an
individual's
four-year
Max
term,
the
seat
will
change
from
an
app
it
will
change
from
an
ex-officio
to
an
at
large
for
two
years
into
a
new
representative
is
designated,
and
then
the
ex-officio
will
resume
the
reserve
seat,
the
chair
term
and
duties.
E
We
also
added
a
travel
and
training
policy,
and
this
is
permits
the
chair
to
attend
the
annual
fra
conference,
the
Florida
Redevelopment
Association
conference,
and
if
they
cannot,
then
they
can
designate
a
member
on
their
half
behalf,
whether
it's
the
chair
or
another
representative,
that's
interested
in
attending
a
little
bit
more
before
we
move
on
just
wanted
to
State
the
purpose
of
the
policy.
The
purpose
of
the
CAC
policy
is
to
provide
guidelines
for
that.
Each
community
redevelopment
agency
shall
follow.
E
E
These
are
all
of
our
current
cacs
for
each
district,
you'll
see
some
have
nine.
Some
have
all
the
way
up
to
15.
and
any
item
highlighted
in
yellow
is
a
change
that
was
made.
So
we
have
in
downtown
we
added
the
Tampa
General
Hospital
they're,
a
major
stakeholder
in
that
area
for
Ybor
City.
We
have
ex-officios,
but
the
yellow
are
added
ex-officios
to
the
structure.
E
We
have
the
Gabor
District
Coalition,
the
ebors
historic
Social,
Club
Ybor
Merchant
Association
in
the
ycdc,
the
Ebor
City
Development
Corporation
and
they're
maxed
at
15
members.
Then
we
move
into
the
channel
District
that
has
nine
members.
They'll
have
three
ex-officios
all
remaining
the
same,
and
they
will
also
have
six
at
large
members.
E
Then
we
move
on
to
East
Tampa
we
have
13
ex-officios,
11
are
Community
active
neighborhood
associations
and
two
seats
will
be
reserved
for
the
East
Tampa
Community,
revitalization
Partnership
and
we'll
have
two
at
large
seats.
So
we
thought
it
was
important
that
the
partnership
stays
heavily
involved
and
we
connected
with
them.
So
they
will
have
those
two
seats
and
Mr
McRae
will
talk
about
this
a
little
bit
more,
but
we'll
make
sure
that
it's
active
neighborhood
associations
within
East
Tampa.
E
So
when
an
appointment
comes
up,
we
will
look
at
the
Active
neighborhood
association
list
and
then
we'll
do
a
random
selection
and
they
will
be
offered
that
opportunity
they're,
also
maxed
out
at
15
members
Max.
Then
we
move
on
to
Tampa
Heights.
We
have
four
ex-officios
that
are
represented
there,
as
well
as
five
at
large
members.
No
changes
happen
there.
E
Central
Park
will
also
have
nine
two
ex-officios
and
one
being
added
as
the
Tampa
Housing
Authority,
and
they
will
have
six
at-large
members
that
the
Housing
Authority
was
important,
given
all
of
their
development
same
thing
with
West
Tampa.
We
are
also
asking
the
Tampa
Housing
Authority
to
join
our
efforts
in
West
Tampa,
with
all
of
their
development.
There'll
be
10,
ex-officios,
total
two
at-large
members,
so
we're
going
to
start
getting
into
the
details
of
of
them,
but
I'll
pause
there
for
questions
before
I
pass
it
on
board.
F
Thank
you.
I
just
had
a
clarification
question,
so
ex-officio
would
not
be
at
large,
they
would
not
be,
they
would
not
have
to
apply
to
come
to
us.
They
would
be
simply
nominated
by
the
group.
So
if
we're
looking
at
downtown
The
Downtown
partnership
would
choose
someone
to
represent
them
and
they
would
be
on
the
board.
F
F
Options
can
be
presented
and
then
you
can
select
the
ability
so,
but
but
it
would
be
the
downtown
partnership,
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify,
because
we
got
some
public
comment
today
from
East
about
the
East
Tampa,
and
so
what
it
sounds
like
is
that
College,
Hill,
Belmont,
Heights,
neighborhood
association
and
crime
watch
would
be
able
to
nominate
someone
for
us
to
choose,
so
it
would
still
be
nominated
from
with
that
Community.
Yes,
okay,
I
wanted
to
clarify
that.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah
I
I
just
went
any
other
comments
for
it:
yeah
very
collaborative
effort
I
like
that.
Even
the
fact
that
you
know
in
developing
this
plan
there
was
clear
communication.
You
know
with
all
the
stakeholders
to
get
to
this
point,
so
I
appreciate
your
work
on
that,
so
absolutely
details
from
your
managers.
Thank.
E
You
so
much
yes,
it
was
very
time
consuming
because
it
became
this
very
complex
thing
to
address,
but
we
wanted
to
simplify
it,
to
make
it
easy
to
understand
and
to
communicate
to
others.
One
more
thing
that
I'll
say
before
I
pass
it
on
is
that
we
also
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
unexcused
absences
are
tracked
by
our
staff.
C
Yeah,
so
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
ask
you
about
on
another
slide
was
the
when
you
go
back
to
it,
so
I
can
get
the
visual
the
last
one.
The
travel
policy
would
should
we,
you
know,
make
the
motion
to
accept
your
report
with
that
fra
conference,
be
the
one
that's
coming
up.
The.
C
H
So
back
to
the
other
slide,
with
the
the
breakdown
of
all
the
Committees.
E
No
that
that's
a
great
question.
We
have
some
that
were
up
to
25.
We
have
some
that
remain
at
nine.
This
is
what
the
CAC
has
has
appointed
as
their
size
desired
size
with
15
being
the
max
just
so
it
can
reach
a
quorum.
We
have
had
some
some
issues
reaching
for
him.
H
I
was
just
curious
because,
obviously,
especially
when
you're
talking
about
the
size
of
the
numbers
and
the
dollar
figures,
sometimes
it
seems
kind
of
like
crazy
that
we're
looking
at
some
that
were
so
big
and
some
that
are
relatively
more
manageable
on
the
sizes
I
I'll
come
in
here
because
I'm
I
know
it
was
a
really
big
lift
to
one
to
tackle
this,
and
it
wasn't
easy,
so
I
think
you've
got
y'all,
did
a
really
good
job
of
of
really
trying
to
put
some
common
sense
and
rhyme
and
reason
into
this
and
some
structure
that
was
needed.
G
Yeah,
just
in
in
like
30
seconds,
I'll
say
what
I
was
going
to
say
a
minute
ago.
You
know
there
are
two
special
cases
here
which
are
Ebor
and
East
Tampa.
We
heard
a
comment
about
East
Tampa
this
morning.
We
know
in
both
cases
there
are
some
ruffle
feathers.
G
I
have
not
researched
East
Tampa
at
all,
I've
not
talked
to
anybody
so
I'm,
not
at
all
an
expert
on
that
and
I'm
I'm,
not
comparing
eboard
to
any
others.
But
I've
had
a
lot
of
conversations
around
Ebor
and
and
and
Erica
knows
this,
because
she
and
Elise
have
been
talking
to
folks
too,
including
the
chair.
G
They
right
now
have
25
and,
and
they
feel
like
they're,
giving
up
a
lot
by
giving
up
the
current
structure
and
and
as
they're
looking
at
all
the
things
they
can
do
now
and
the
limitations
that
this
new
structure
is
going
to
put
on
them.
They
they're
very
hesitant
to
do
all
this,
but
what
they
would
they
don't
they,
especially
don't
like
the
the
number
15,
and
instead
of
that
they
would
like
10
at
large,
10x
officio,
which
would
be
representatives
of
different
industry
groups.
G
In
Ebor
and
then
and
then
Joe
Capitano
and
Fran
constantina
right
yeah,
my
brain's
not
working
are
both
we're
both
promised
lifetime
Emeritus
seats
and
and
just
to
honor
the
commitment
they
made.
G
G
It
would
allow
the
chair
and
others
to
go
back
and
say:
look
we
got
some
of
what
we
want,
even
though
we
got
all
these
other
things
taken
taken
away,
and
so
either
now
or
later,
I'll
make
a
motion
depending
on
what
you
all
say
to
do
that.
Just
what
we
gain
is
that
they're,
giving
up
the
ycdc
structure
and
they're
joining
our
structure,
we're
just
making
a
small
accommodation
to
help
them
fit
one
structure
into
the
other.
F
Thank
you
and
I
want
to
thank
you,
chair,
Henderson,
for
bringing
up
the
par
the
part
about
the
fra
conference,
because
I
do
remember
at
last
year's
fra
conference,
there
were
a
lot
of
CAC
members
in
attendance
and
so
you're
basically
saying
that
only
one
person
could
go
per
year
from
each
CAC.
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
H
Don't
know
if
this
I
know
Mr
Carlson
we're
going
to
talk
about
that,
a
little
bit
later,
what
you
just
described,
otherwise
it
could
get
into
the
points
because
I,
what
I
might
as
well
jump
in
I
think
that
staff
did
a
great
job
in
tackling
a
really
difficult
issue
here
and
they've
created
a
a
process
which,
while
not
perfect,
because
you
know
I,
look
at
the
cross.
H
The
spread
of
these
numbers
and
I
know
they've
had
issues
with
quorums
in
the
past
and
we
all
know
working
in
different
bodies,
sometimes
as
they
get
so
large,
they
become
less
effective
and
you
know
overly
bureaucratic
and
burdensome
and
I
unders
and
I
understand
where
eboard
is
coming
from,
but
it
would
almost
okay
if
you
did
it
for
eboard.
Why
wouldn't
you
do
that?
For
everybody?
You
know?
Is
it
and
and
I
understand?
H
H
Taking
this
pill,
the
medicine
you
know
might
be
a
difficult
pill
to
swallow
right
at
first,
but
let's
see
if
it
cures
the
disease
and
then
we
can
come
back
and
revisit
it
at
another
time
to
add
on
to
things
and
and
make
this
as
amendments,
but
I
don't
want
to
I.
Don't
want
to
diminish
this.
This
heavy
lift
that
staff
has
just
gone
through
to
create.
This
document
create
this
procedure.
A
E
Yep
and
then
just
just
respond,
the
max
is
15.
So
if
a
CAC
wanted
to
increase
their
number
215,
we
we
would
entertain
that
for
sure.
Thank
you
and
then
now
we
get
into
the
transition
planning
and
what
the
details
look
like.
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
smooth
transition,
so
it'll
happen
over
time
and
gradually
so
with
that
I'll
be
on
the
side
for
questions,
but
we
do
have
eboard
CRA
manager,
Courtney
Orr,
ready
to
come
up.
Thank
you.
E
F
J
Good
afternoon
East
Tampa,
okay,
so
in
his
current
form
we
have
a
total
of
13
slots
or
east
Tampa
CAC
spaces
for
the
East
Tampa
CAC,
what's
being
proposed,
as
director
Moody
said,
would
be
15
and
then
we'd
have
two
ex-officio
seats
and
that
would
be
comprised
of
individuals
from
the
East
Tampa
partnership.
J
To
assist
with
that
transition
and
I
know
that
we
mentioned,
or
I
mentioned
during
the
workshop
on
June
8th
at
the
River
Center,
we
are
actually
in
the
election
cycle.
Currently,
our
election
is
scheduled
for
September
12th
and
had
a
meeting
with
our
East
Tampa
partnership
last
last
Tuesday,
and
they
were
this.
Information
was
shared
with
them
as
it
relates
to
how
we
would
transition.
We
have
some
six
seats
that
are
currently
not
set
to
expire
until
2024,
and
we
have
seven
seats
that
are
currently
set
to
expire,
September
30th
of
2023..
J
Those
individuals
that
are
going
to
be
going
through
the
elections
process
will
be
elected
to
the
east,
Tampa
Community,
revitalization,
Partnership
and
not
for
the
CAC.
We
would
actively
recruit
and
work
with
the
neighborhoods
department
and
Janelle
McGregor
and
our
staff
to
to
recruit
residents
from
East
Tampa.
We
have
a
total
of
16,
neighborhoods,
I,
believe
11
or
12
of
them
are
currently
listed
as
active
or
in
process
of
being
created.
J
So
we
would
have
conversations
and
engage
those
neighborhoods
to
recruit
individuals
to
apply,
and
once
those
applications
are
submitted,
they
would
instead
of
coming
to
us
as
a
staff.
They
would
go
through
the
clerk's
office
and
they
would
be
moved
forward
just
similar
to
any
the
processes
for
your
ul's
boards
and
commissions
for
the
city,
council
or
the
city
of
Tampa
period.
J
And
so
you're
able
to
see
the
the
slots
that
will
be
expiring,
that
are
highlighted
and
we
have
had
discussions
with
members
of
the
CAC
in
the
East
Tampa
partnership.
As
recently
as
last
Tuesday.
J
In
receiving
information
from
our
neighborhoods
office
and
the
active
associations,
we
went
through
at
use
software
to
randomly
select
neighborhoods
that
could
be
used
to
fill
those
positions
in
2025
and
they
are
listed
in
the
green.
The
legacy
of
Fair
Oaks
Community
Association,
Jackson,
Heights,
neighborhood,
association
of
crime
watch,
Southeast,
Seminole,
Heights,
civic
association,
live
at
Oak,
Square,
neighborhood
association,
VM
Ybor,
as
well
as
rainbow
Heights
and
Seminole
Heights
East
neighborhood
associations.
J
So
that's
what
is
being
proposed
that
those
neighborhood
associations
would
have
representation
when
we
have
the
the
formal
elections
process
or
I'm
sorry
habit,
not
elections,
appointment
process
that
we
will
be
moving
forward
with
and
then
proposing
today,
and
so
we
will
have
the
six
remaining
seats.
You'll
have
seven
new
neighborhood
associations
or
seats
were
designated
for
those
seven
seats
through
the
neighborhood
associations.
J
C
My
mine
is
more
so
of
an
administrative
question
and
I
like
the
fact
that
you
said
it
would
go
through
the
Kirk's
office,
the
applications
that
takes
it
away
out
of
the
manager's
hands.
Have
you
all
had
some
conversation
among
yourselves
about
people
coming
to
you
with
their
application
and
how
you're
going
to
handle
that
everyone
should
have
the
same
language
as
what
I
would
be
recommending
so
that
you
can
be
neutral
because
you're
not
going
to
make
that
decision.
The
board
is
making
that
decision.
C
J
Yes,
yes,
and
it
will
take
some
education
moving
forward
because
I
know
that
you
know
folks
are
creatures
of
habit
and
we
would
have
to
definitely
inform
them
as
we're
campaigning
and
sharing
this
information
with
the
neighborhood
associations,
we
will
have
to
make
sure
that
they
are
aware
that
you
know
anything
is
submitted.
You
know,
doesn't
come
to
the
east,
Tampa
CRA
office
or
staff.
It
will
go
to
the
city
clerk's.
C
Office,
yeah
and
once
and
one
very
first
community
members
that
I
met
with
when
I
was
councilwoman
elect,
was
from
Members
not
currently
represented
that
are
listed
on
this
screen
right
now,
that
feel
like
they
had
been
kept
out
of
the
loop
because
of
the
election
process
that
currently
existed
so
I'm
glad
to
see
a
pathway
where
it
provides
every
community
and
opportunity
to
be
represented
board.
Member
Carlson,
yeah.
G
I
want
to
I
want
to
thank
chair
Henderson
for
bringing
this
issue
forward.
We've
been
talking
about
Ybor
and
East
Tampa
for
four
years
that
I've
been
on
and
I.
Don't
think
any
of
us
made
the
motion.
There
was
a
lot
of
politics
all
around
as
you
were
in
the
middle
of
it.
G
You
know
the
the
person
this
morning
talked
about
the
election,
but
the
election
was
really
political
and
and
and
controversial
because
because
there
were
questions
about
who
qualified
to
vote
and
how
you
count
the
votes
and
all
these
problems
and
different
factions
were
doing
things
and,
and
it
was,
it
was
too
politicized
for
what
it
was,
but,
most
importantly,
the
city
it
appeared
I'll
put
qualifies,
it
appeared
that
the
city
might
potentially
become
liable
for
how
it
was
put
together,
and
that
was
my
main
concern
and
so
I'm
glad.
G
Well,
if
you,
besides,
all
the
other
consistency
things,
the
real
big
things
we're
getting
here.
The
huge
things
we're
getting,
which
was
her
motion,
is
that
we're
separating
from
these
two
other
non-profits
we're
making
it
clear
that
it
is
a
CAC
not
that
not
that
entity.
So
I
want
to
thank
congratulate
her
from
that.
Second,
unless
the
board
of
the
East
Tampa
revitalization
partnership
votes
to
dissolve
it,
it
continues,
but
we
have
to
separate
from
it.
G
So
we
what
communication
are
we
making
to
the
board
and
the
public
about
what
happens
to
the
east
Tampa
revitalization
partnership
now,
so
that
we
make
sure
that
the
public
knows
we're
no
longer
associated
with
it?
They
can
continue
if
they
want
or
they
can
shut
it
down,
they
can
do
whatever
they
want
with
it.
It
just
happened
that
when
it
was
formed
that
entity
helped
advocate
for
it,
and
so
they
became
the
CAC
now
we're
separating
it,
but
we
want
to
get
rid
of
the
liability.
I
think
all
connected
to
it.
Right.
J
Yeah
and
as
you
heard
in
during
some
of
the
comments,
there
were
some
heartburn
with
some
of
the
folks
assembled
at
the
meeting
last
Tuesday
as
it
relates
to
what
it's
going
to
look
like
and
as
it
relates
to
the
east
Tampa
partnership
and
standing
on
its
own
as
it
relates
to
because
right
now,
a
lot
of
those
meetings.
And
you
know
between
TNI-
and
you
know
our
staff.
You
know
to
help,
facilitate
and
host
those
meetings.
J
G
B
G
Just
so
folks
know,
you
know,
it'll
be
two
parallel
organizations
now
not
the
same.
F
There
are
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
in
I,
think
it's
important
that
we
make
sure
everybody
feels
heard.
But
what
I
do
not
see
in
this
list
and
because
our
mission
as
a
CRA
is
we
are
focusing
focusing
not
just
on
residents
but
the
economy.
I,
don't
see
any
businesses
on
this
list,
I
don't
see
any
type
of
business
organization
and
that
just
concerns
me
not
because
I
don't
think
the
neighborhoods
need
to
have
a
say
because
I
do
believe
they
do.
But
we
don't.
F
We
don't
even
have
a
spot
here
for
even
one
business
owner
and
so
I
am
concerned
about
that
I
know.
We've
got
two
at
large
that
that
you
know
since
it's
up
to
us,
we
could
focus
on
that,
but
and
I
don't
know
what
would
be
Equitable
if
If.
Instead,
we
could
trade
off
neighborhood,
because
I
know
there
will
be
no
more
neighborhood
associations
created
as
the
neighborhood
relations
keeps
building.
In
fact,
I
know
there's
a
new
one
coming
online,
that's
not
even
on
here.
So
my
question
is
going
forward.
F
E
Thank
you
so
much
for
pointing
that
out.
We
do
see
the
partnership
as
a
business
organization,
so
they
have
two
seats
as
well
and
just
want
to
reiterate
that
we
will
continue
to
stay
close
with
them
as
well
and
then
have
a
say
it
in
what's
what's
happening
and
I've
met
with
the
chair
and
we
want
their
success.
So
you
know.
By
no
way
does
this
mean
that
we
are
want
them
to
dissolve.
E
We
actually
want
them
to
strengthen
and
be
self-sufficient
long-term,
even
after
the
CAC
Sunset,
the
at-large
positions
they
are
live,
work
own
or
operate,
so
we
do
want
to
encourage
businesses
to
fulfill
those
at
large
seats
as
well
as
I
know.
Some
residents
are
excited
about
it
too,
but
I
do
appreciate
your
comments
and
you
pointing
that
out,
because
we
are
focusing
on
building
the
commercial
corridors
within
East
Tampa.
So
it's
very
relevant.
F
A
F
Business
entities
so
I
would
certainly
I
mean
I
I
feel
like
you
know,
we
have
a
great
idea
going
forward
and
I
will
certainly
look
for
those
at-large
members.
Me
personally
will
look
for
business
people
when
I
vote,
but
you
know
maybe,
as
time
goes
on
and
we
more
neighborhood
associations
come
online.
We
may
have
to
revisit
the
structure
somewhat
to
not
go
over
15
but
see
how
we
can
have
some
Equity,
but
also
as
the
business
community
grows
in
East
Tampa.
We
will
need
to
make
sure
we
have
some
seats
for
that.
I
Thank
you,
chairman
I,
but
I'm
sure
I
was
just
looking
at
that
you
have
13
that
are
already
on
it.
When
I,
when
I
saw
the
two
at
large
I
was
saying
well,
possibly,
the
two
at
large
are
the
ones
that
are
going
to
be
from
the
business
community
in
some
sort
of
way.
So
I
appreciate
that
and
I
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
chairman
Henderson
for
bringing
us
to
this
point
and
I.
Think
these
things
that
councilmember
Carlson
talked
about
are
very
good
and
going
forward.
G
Yeah
I
just
want
to
say,
I,
agree
with
board
member
her
attack
also
on
the
business
thing
and
I
I
don't
want
to
complicate
it,
but
if
we
have
20,
neighborhoods
and
I'm
just
making
this
up.
But
if
we
have
20
neighborhoods
and
eight
seats,
maybe
we
should
rotate
them
somehow
or
something
so
that
it's
fair
to
everybody,
but
we
definitely
need
business
representation
and
I.
G
Would
you
said
sorry
I'm
going
to
keep
Harvey
on
on
words,
but
you
said
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
building
the
neighbor,
the
business,
the
commercial
corridors
and
I
would
rather
the
the
word
building
and
corridors
implies
big
buildings
and
what
what
I
I've
said
to
all
the
builders
I
met
with
the
Builders
Association
last
week
and
I
said
we
need
to
focus
on
people
and
companies
and
and
and
private
businesses,
entrepreneurship,
not
buildings
and
not
subsidized
building,
and
everybody
agrees
with
that.
G
And
so,
if
we,
if
we're,
building
up
the
business
community
and
and
I
know
Morris
won't,
let
us
do
that
directly.
But
if
we
can
build
up
the
business
community
in
East
Tampa
and
help
people
become
entrepreneurs,
then
the
private
sector
will
come
in
and
build
office,
Place
places
for
them
and
we
can
help
them.
But
we
should.
My
point
is:
let's
not
think
about
it:
visually
like
buildings
in
a
quarter,
let's
think
about
it
as
as
people
starting
businesses
and
there's
a
thriving
business
Community
going
on
I.
Think,
okay,.
E
You
great
and
I
have
to
say
it,
but
as
as
we
were
speaking
about
affordable
housing-
and
you
know
it's
like-
we
need
to
build
up
the
business
in
more
of
these
residential
areas
and
more
of
the
residential
and
these
higher
business
areas.
So
it's
really
it's
really
that
balance
and
it
comes
throughout
the
discussion
also
before
I
pass
it
off.
I
I
do
want
to
just
make
a
point
that
we,
these
are
public
meetings
and
we
encourage
everyone
to
participate
on
people
interested
in
the
agenda
items.
E
People
who
just
want
to
share
their
voice
on
the
community
so
just
want
to
like
open
up
the
invitation
for
anyone
to
join
us
in
these
Community
advisory
committee
meetings.
Yes,
this
is
the
committee,
but
there's
public
comment
involved,
there's
relevant
items.
If
you
want
to
stay
in
touch
with,
what's
going
on
in
your
neighborhood,
so
I
just
wanted
to
open
up
the
invitation
to
anyone
watching
or
if
anyone
from
the
board
would
like
to
attend.
E
We
are
going
to
move
into
Ebor
a
little
bit
different.
We
have
the
ycdc
the
Ebor
Community
Development
Corporation.
As
you
know,
they
are
pursuing
a
Special
Service
District,
so
we
are
cheering
them
on
and
supporting
them
and
also
want
to
stay
connected
to
all
of
the
amazing
things
coming
on
the
line
online
for
them
as
well.
So
we
have
our
manager
Miss,
Courtney
Orr.
She
is
very
connected
to
the
CAC,
the
community
and
she's,
going
to
be
the
best
representation
of
this
information
today.
K
So
on
this
slide,
you'll
see
the
current
structure
of
the
Ybor
City
CAC.
We
have
25
members
plus
the
two
additional
Emeritus
members
who
are
non-voting
members
and
the
column
there
with
the
15
members.
It
speaks
to
the
industry
seats
that
currently
are
represented
and
then
the
ex-officio
off
to
the
right
hand
side.
What
we're
proposing
is
that
we
have
the
what
we've
already
spoken
about
the
15
members,
not
to
not
to
go
above
15
members
with
five
at
large
and
then
10
ex-officio.
K
So
we
did
maintain
the
ex-officio
representatives,
which
was
great
and
that's
what
the
CAC
wanted.
They
were
worried
about
losing
that
representation,
because
it
compels
the
organizations
to
send
a
representative
to
the
table.
So
the
only
thing
was
is
different
is
the
at
large.
We
don't
really
have
named
industry
seats,
but
it
could
actually
provide
an
opportunity
for
those
who
didn't
were
in
that
particular
industry.
You
know
now
they
could
be
considered.
K
So
here
are
25
members
currently
serving
with
the
two
Emeritus
there
at
the
bottom
and
we're
getting
ready
to
shift
into
this
to
the
second
term.
We
have
two
two-year
terms
currently
and
we're
getting
ready,
October
1st,
to
shift
into
the
second
of
their
two
of
total
four-year
term.
So
this
is
going
to
be
their
round
two
and
then
we'd
like
to
honor
having
them
serve
out
that
final
two-year
term
to
take
them
to
2025..
K
K
And
then
so,
with
not
filling
those
20
23
seats,
you'll
see
that
we're
getting
to
that
15
and
there
we
have
the
proposed
ex-officio
members
and
instead
of
expiring,
having
them
expire
in
2025
like
the
previous
slide,
we'll
stagger
them
to
2026
so
that
we
don't
have
a
mass
Exodus
of
knowledge.
All
in
2025,
we'll
have
some
people
that
will
stay
on.
Half
of
the
board
will
stay
on
through
2026
and
then
we'll
have
The
Replacements
there
listed
as
2025.
K
F
Thank
you
for
this
and
I
think
this
shows
a
really
clear
definition
of
what
I
was
talking
about,
because
here
you
have
a
nice
combination
of
Civic
and
business
and
even
I
mean
there's
a
section
here
for
the
the
Social
Clubs
I
mean
what
are
we?
What
in
East
Tampa
could
we
put
in
there?
I
mean
I
I
think
that
in
the
future
we
really
have
to
look
at.
F
I
mean
I
would
say,
majority
of
this
is
business
and
I
know
right
now,
majority
of
East
Tampa
is
residential,
but
as
we
transition,
we
should
always
be
looking
at
this.
So
I
don't
know
if
this
is
something
that
should
come
to
us
every
few
years
to
just
kind
of
update
I
would
I
would
love
an
update
in
two
years.
F
Perhaps
so,
I'll
make
the
motion
that
well,
let's
see
if
it
passes
first
and
then
I
can
make
a
motion
after
that
to
have
this
come
forward
every
two
years
for
us
to
really
look
at
the
categories
and
make
sure
it
sticks,
because
that's
I
think
part
of
the
problem
of
of
what
happened
overall
was
the
everybody
just
got
familiar
with
the
spaces,
so
I
want
to
thank
you,
Miss
Orr,
about
really
thinking
about
which
how
to
how
to
capture
each
group
in
the
way
that
you
did.
Thank
you.
You're
welcome
board.
H
Once
again,
I
want
to
applaud
staff
and
everyone.
The
community
leaders
as
well
that
participated
in
this
overhaul
change
is
difficult
and
it's
very
difficult,
and
it's
tough
to
you,
know
to
really
come
in
and
do
something
like
this.
So
I
think
you
guys
did
a
very
effective
job
in
such
a
short
period
of
time.
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
the
CRA
board
approved
the
amended
Community
advisory
committee
policy,
as
presented
by
staff
effective
immediately.
Second.
G
Ahead,
yeah
I'm
Gonna
Roll
Call
vote,
but
I'm
going
to
remember
Carlson
I'm,
going
to
make
a
motion
just
after
this
regarding
the
the
Ybor
City
characterized
characterization,
because
I
promised
them
I
would
so
we'll
see
how
that
goes
too.
Roll.
D
C
We're
going
to
pick
up
more
discussion,
yes,
I
thought
you
had
one
too,
but
go
ahead
board
member
Carlson,
yeah.
G
I'm
sorry
yeah
I
just
would
like
again
in
the
case
of
Ebor
and
and
East
Tampa.
What
we're
gaining
is
that
we're
not
associated
with
separate
non-profits
anymore.
So
that's
a
huge
gain
for
us,
just
not
being
affiliated
with
those
other
organizations,
because
it
simplifies
it
legally
in
all
kinds
of
ways.
G
So
the
thing
that
the
Ebor
folks
have
asked
for
asked
me
for,
and
I've
talked
to,
staff
about
it
is
and
since
they're
giving
up
so
much,
they
would
like
it
as
a
minimum
to
have
have
this
structure
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
for
the
Ebor
CAC
to
have
10
at
large
members,
10x
officio
and
then
grandfather
in
the
two
Emeritus
positions
to
be
sunset,
when
they're
no
longer
active.
Second.
C
B
H
Know
I
believe
councilman
Miranda
asked
for
like
do
we
have
a
data
on
attendance
on
what
these
meetings
actually
look
like
how
many
people
attended,
how
difficult
was
it
reach
to
reach
quorums
and
what
what
the
unintended
consequence
of
doing
this
is
and
then
I
would
probably
say
you
know
I
think
I
as
I
said
earlier.
In
my
conversation,
my
gut
tells
me
change
is
difficult.
It's
hard
to
go
through
this
process.
It
looks
like
staff
really
did
his
due
diligence
worked
with
Community
the
community
and
I
understand
that
there's
some.
H
You
know
folks
that
are,
but
we
had
the
same
issue
in
East
Tampa,
but
they
seemed
to
be.
There
seemed
to
be
you
know
going
along
with
this
and
I
think
they're.
Probably
the
impact
on
these
stamp
was
more
dramatic
than
even
Ybor
City.
So
if
we
start
whittling
in
a
way
it's
Death,
By,
A,
Thousand,
Cuts,
I,
I,
think
I
think
we
should
keep
going
the
way
we're
going
with
what
we're
at
not
change
it.
Maybe
we
can
visit
another
time
and
do
we
have
that
information.
L
G
Could
I
withdraw
my
motion?
Make
a
new
motion.
G
Can
I
can
I
just
say
the
chair
has
been
the
intermediary
to
talk
to
his
constituents
and
he's
talked
to
staff
and
they
weren't
happy
with
the
15,
which
is
why
they
came
to
me
and
asked
me
about
it,
and
so
even
there's
not
a
hundred
people
here
protesting
they
would
like
the
the
you
know.
It
was
the
chair
representing
their
interests
that
they,
they
really
feel
like.
They
don't
have
to
go
all
the
way
up
to
25,
but
they
would.
They
would
like
to
at
a
minimum.
Just
have
this.
K
In
my
eight
year
years,
we've
never
missed
Quorum
we've
had
13
members
at
least
show
up.
That's
what
we
need
for
our
for
our
51
percent
of
the
25
members.
So
we've
always
had
Quorum.
It
can
range
I
just
briefly
glance
through
all
the
minutes
on
my
computer
and
it
can
range
from
15
to
20
participants,
but
we
never
capture
the
entire
25..
So,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
the
only
concern
that
the
group
had
was
was
well
when
we
spoke
to
as
a
publicly
as
a
group
was
that
the
ex-officio
representatives
were
maintained.
F
F
K
K
G
The
thing
is
in
terms
of
who
goes
first,
if
the
two
Emeritus
positions
take
at
large.
This
is
the
position
that
the
chair
is
telling
me.
If
the
two
Emeritus
positions
take
the
two
out
two
at
large
positions,
it
takes
away
the
ability
to
get
representation.
The
meetings
I've
been
in
Ebor
are
packed
full
of
people
where
there's
no
seats
and
so
I
don't
know
how
many
of
them
are
board
members
or
not,
but
it's
a
very
active
group.
G
What
I
would
propose
is
that
we
go
forward
with
with
the
motion.
If
that
motion
fails,
I'll
make
the
motion
that
that
board
member
Miranda
suggested
and
see
what
happens
with
that.
One.
F
That's
what
I
was
going
to
say
as
well
I
mean
if
I
I
mean
these
Emeritus
positions
or
yes,
Emeritus
positions.
If
they
don't
have
voting
roles
anyway,
yeah
I,
don't
see
a
reason
why
we
can't
just
keep
Miss
Constantino
and
then,
if,
if
yeah,
if
the
the
other
person
doesn't
participate,
as
it
is
due
to
health
reasons
anyway,
then
they're
welcome
to
if
they
feel
up
to
it,
but
they
don't
have
to.
And
then
you
know,
as
those
as
those
folks
don't
participate
anymore,
then
we're
back
to
the
15
I.
K
C
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you
all
have
done
to
come
to
this
point
and
there's
a
book
out
there
called
who
move
my
cheese
changes.
Difficult
change
is
difficult,
but
what
you've
presented
with
the
15
across
the
board
for
me,
is
what
works
for
me.
We
actually
voted
on
it
unanimously
and
I
think
that
we
should
give
Ybor
City
an
opportunity
to
receive
what
we've
just
voted
on
just
now.
C
He,
the
beautiful
part,
about
being
a
board,
is
that
if
we
have
to
Circle
back
because
this
isn't
working,
we
can
make
that
change
as
necessary
for
any
of
the
communities
that
we're
serving
as
a
board
but
I
like
the
consistency
of
what
we
just
voted
on
and
I,
would
leave
it,
as
is
any
further
discussion
for
this.
Yes
board.
L
Member
Vieira!
Yes,
so
you
know
if,
if
councilman
Carlson
discussed
this
with
the
chairman
of
the
board,
Mr
barbas
right
and
he's
supportive
of
it,
I
I
give
that
deference,
and
you
know
one
way
or
another,
moving
ahead
on
it.
I'm
fine.
With
that
I
I
give
the
chairman
of
the
CEO
of
the
board.
There
CAC
board
a
reasonable
level
of
deference,
but
you
know
one
way
or
another
I
I,
you
know
moving
it
forward.
Thank
you.
C
Yes,
for
the
change
for
e-board,
you
want
to.
C
G
D
A
B
You
so
just
to
clarify
that
means,
and
we
can
bring
this
back
to
to
get
confirmed
at
the
next
meeting.
But
the
the
CAC
committee
policy
has
proposed
the
exhibit
a
will
have
to
be
changed
and
so
there's
some
language
about
the
maximum
15
members.
That
will
have
to
be
changed
in
that
policy
which
will
bring
forward
because.
F
Additionally,
yeah
and
so
now,
we're
gonna
have
East
Tampa
coming
next
to
do
this,
so,
additionally,
those
five
I
want
the
staff
to
come
to
us
and
tell
us
what
groups
need
to
be
there.
That
is
not
something
that
I
I
mean.
We
did
this
fairly.
If
they're
going
to
add
five
more
members,
then
it
also
needs
to
be
done
fairly.
G
Morris,
do
we
do
we
need
to
make
a
motion
to
bring
back
Amendment
language.
G
Do
that
I
think
I'd
just
like
to
make
a
motion
to
bring
back
to
the
next
meeting
amending
language
to
allow
this
one
grandfather's
situation.
C
F
Yes,
a
friendly
Amendment
would
be
that
staff
needs
to
come
back
with
what
those
five
five
groups
are
going
to
be.
Those
five
positions
are
going
to
focus.
B
G
What
what
I
suggest
anybody
this
Vision
with
two
colleagues
in
my
lab
any
questions
you
have
about
it?
Please
call
the
chair.
He
he
and
his
people
can't
carry
messages
back
and
forth
with
us,
but
you
all
can
contact
them
directly.
You
can
go
to
the
meetings
and
listen
to
them
and
talk
to
them
and
there's
a
lot
of
there's
a
lot
of
bad
feelings
through
some
of
the
changes
we've
imposed
on
them
in
the
last
year
or
two
and
they
feel
like
they're,
very
active
and
and
have
been
collegial
they're.
G
They
were
just
asking
for
this
as
a
minimum
appreciate
us
moving
forward
if
we
could
just
make
that
one
tweak.
That
would
be
good
and
understanding
that
there
are
only
two
cases
of
this,
because
the
others
were
all
CICS
anyway,
and
all
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
to
bring
it
in.
So
we
can
separate
ourselves
from
the
separate
nonprofits
which
we
do.
C
C
C
Okay,
it
is
raining.
Thank
you
all
so
much
CRA
managers.
We
really
appreciate
everything
that
you've
done
on
behalf
of
getting
to
this
point
in
this
process.
C
I
I
see
a
great
future
for
the
CRA
board
and
working
with
the
community
so
and
and
also
the
opportunity
for
us,
as
we
continue
to
say
everything
here
on
the
Deus,
where
the
community
can
hear
exactly
you
know
where
we're
coming
from.
So
that's
it.
Let's
move
forward.
We
have
item
number
six
and
seven
together.
Yes,.
E
Okay,
both
of
these
are
concerning
the
downtown
I'll,
read
both
of
the
motions
and
invite
the
urban
core
manager
Jeff
Reaper,
and
to
come
up.
So
we
have
item
six,
which
is
the
CRA
staff
to
report
on
the
amount
of
money
that
has
been
committed
to
downtown
when
the
CRA
voted
for
very
various
things
within
the
district,
for
enhancements
to
downtown
area
and
for
future
advancements.
M
M
Just
to
give
you
a
little
background.
This
CRA
is
the
sunset
in
2043
per
2014
County
interlocal
agreement.
The
city
contributes
the
total
amount,
which
means
the
county
puts
in
nothing,
though,
with
the
Water
Street
project,
they
have
committed
to
50
million
dollars
to
match
our
50
million
dollars,
so
they
are
investing
in
the
downtown
just
not
through
the
CRA.
M
The
Outlook
includes
projects
to
be
considered
within
the
1983-88
Redevelopment
plan,
but
not
does
not
account
for
potential
changes,
given
its
current
rewrite.
So
the
the
new
plan
is
supposed
to
be
out
in
early
spring
and
with
that
a
more
relevant
and
probably
more
robust
plan
can
be,
can
be
put
together
the
projection.
They
estimate
an
11
increment
starting
next
year
for
this
year
we
have
the
full
amount
that
we
are
aware
of,
but
for
every
year
after
that,
it's
11
percent.
G
Sure,
thank
you,
and
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
Morris
the
numbers
we're
gonna.
Can
you
go
back
one
side
whoever's
running
that?
Please
it
the
Top
Line
there
says
it's
sunsets
in
2043
and
I
think
all
the
numbers
are
based
on
that
2043.
G
But
what
was
it
three
years
ago,
the
state
law
was
changed
to
to
potentially
Force
the
sunset
of
of
cras,
and
so
the
City
Attorney
at
the
time
came
to
us
and
asked
us
to
arbitrarily
put
it
all
the
way
out
to
2043
with
the
idea
that
we
could
shrink
it
less
at
some
point.
But
I
don't
remember
when
did
it?
What
year
did
it
go
to
before
then.
B
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
that,
but
yeah.
He.
There
was
a
motion
and
there's
a
resolution
where
this
the
downtown
Ferry
was
extended
and-
and
that
was
pursuant
to
the
2019
legislation.
G
But
at
the
time
and-
and
maybe
my
colleagues
remember
but
at
the
time
you
know,
I
was
worried
about
extending
it
out
that
far.
But
the
argument
was
made
that
this
gives
us
flexibility.
If
we
don't
do
this,
the
state
might
shut
it
down
earlier
because
they
could
come
in
and
say
that
that
no
cras
could
be
extended
at
that
point.
So
we
extended
out
not
with
not
thinking
that
we
intentionally
wanted
it
to
go
to
2043,
but
that
we
needed
to
for
for
legal
reasons
for
the
state
right.
It
might.
B
C
M
M
This
number
will
go
all
the
way
to
2020
2029
strats
Performing
Arts,
it's
25
million,
and
there
are
some
negotiations
being
done
that
we
won't
go
into
today,
but
that
number
is
also
out
there
and
we
have
put
money
aside
for
that
already:
a
Tampa
Museum
of
Art.
There
is
not
an
agreement
before
that
has
come
before
the
board
yet,
but
you
did
agree
upon
a
payment
plan.
We
do
have
an
agreement.
B
G
M
G
M
And
what
you're,
looking
at
between
20,
24
and
2029?
That's
pretty
that's
pretty
much
that
payment
period
that
you're
looking
at
prior
to
additional
growth
that
was
unexpected
in
this
year's
tax
base
at
at
one
point,
the
green
graph
was
below
the
red
graph,
so
we
were
actually
not
bringing
in
enough
money.
But
luckily
for
us
the
economy
is
good
and
that's
what
we're
looking
at
so
without
adding
anything
else.
Just
the
what
you've
committed
to
these
are
some
of
the
items
that
are
left
on
the
table
for
you
to
discuss.
M
If
you
wish
things
like:
affordable
housing,
Marion
Street,
Redevelopment,
land
acquisition,
purchasing,
more
land
for
housing
and
other
items,
Franklin
Street
to
redevelop
that
the
urban
Transit
circulator
Kylie
Gardens,
Redevelopment,
Cass,
Riverwalk
intersection.
That's
something
that
the
friends
of
the
Riverwalk
have
been
working
on:
mcville
stormwater
pre-treatment,
that
is,
a
project
to
pre-treat
storm
water.
That's
going
to
the
downtown
before
it
goes
into
the
Hillsborough
River,
just
south
of
the
Sheraton
Redevelopment
grants
community
policing,
which
you've
already
talked
about
once
today,
the
beneficial
River
Walk
intersection.
M
This
is
the
downtown
portion
of
that
to
go
over
under
or
around
likes
park
to
redevelop
park,
Harbor,
Island,
public
art
projects,
historic
streetcar,
Poe
garage
and
Main
Street
programs.
So
these
are
items
that
that
have
never
been
approved
by
this
board,
but
in
listening
to
the
CAC
in
the
downtown
partnership
and
other
folks,
these
are
items
that
we
have
had
in
our
10-year
budget
and
we're
talking
about
as
we
were,
writing
the
plan
and
which
is
currently
being
done
now.
M
So
these
are
the
items
this
is
the
opportunity
cost
of
if
we
were
just
to
take
and
and
take
the
CRA
offline,
except
for
paying
off
what
you've
already
committed
to,
but
the
the
opposite
or
the
benefit
of
that
is
about
330
million
dollars
over
10
years.
So
did
not
carry
it
all
the
way
up
to
2043,
but
you
can
imagine
what
that
would
look
like,
because
this
carries
it
out.
The
2033.
H
Can
you
go
back
to
the
previous
slide,
no
sure
so
right
now,
with
what
we've
currently
obligated,
if
I'm
looking
at
that
correct,
including
including
the
obligations
we
have
above
now
across
councilman
Carlson,
the
discussions
that
were
made
and
the
obligations
are
made
at
the
Tampa
Museum
of
Art?
Was
it
just
15
million
I.
B
M
H
So
if
you
go
back,
go
to
the
next
screen,
just
so
I'm
perfectly
transparent
things
that
I,
you
know
my
my
priorities
in
the
in
the
downtown
area:
the
Marion
Street,
you
know,
I've
been
in
several
conversations
with
with
heart
and
others.
I
think
that
we
have
a
lot
of
great
opportunity
to
completely
redefine
a
huge
section
of
downtown
with
a
linear
park
with
various
types
of
amenities
along
that
and
now
that
we
can
repurpose
that
street,
which
was
a
failed
experiment
for
Transit.
It's
not
working,
so
we
can
figure
out
something
else.
H
I
think
that's
an
important
goal
to
be
looking
at
and
then
of
course,
I
I'm,
woefully
the
I'm
sure
there
must
be
some
other
money
in
here
for
historic
streetcar,
because
you
know,
expansion
of
the
streetcar
through
downtown
and
into
Tampa
Heights
is
a
really
important
element
as
well.
Some
of
this
other
stuff
is,
you
know,
I
think
we
can
talk
about
individually,
but
I
think
both
of
those
are
transformational
projects
that
we
need
to
pursue
and
look
at
that.
H
It
would
be
beneficial
both
for
Mobility
being
able
to
move
north
and
south
through
the
downtown.
In
different
corridors,
both
with
bike
biking,
walkings
scootering,
along
Marion
Street
in
in
a
park
like
setting
I,
think
would
be
incredible
and
having
these
streetcar
extend
through
downtown
through
Tampa
Heights
would
be
amazing.
So
this
this
is
some
two
of
the
really
good
projects
this
that
this
downtown
CRA.
G
Can
you
go
back
to
that
previous
slide?
Please
sure,
especially
for
the
public
watching
he
said
this,
but
the
the
total
amount
for
spp,
which
is
the
Water
Street
project,
was
100
million.
That
was
the
past
six.
Eight
years
ago,
before
this
Council
and
before
this
mayor,
half
of
it
was
the
city
and
half
of
it
was
the
county,
and
so
this
the
difference
between
50
million
and
36.
What
is
that?
13
million
has
been
paid
out
already
and
it's
it's
reimbursement
for
for
amenities
and
I'm
told
by
the
spp
people.
G
If
we
pay
eighty
dollars
a
foot
for
a
sidewalk,
they
pay
another
hundred
dollars
or
something
on
top
of
that
so
they're.
The
reason
why
there
are
wide
sidewalks
there
are
nice
sidewalks.
This
CRA
is
not
paying
for
it,
but
they're,
adding
on
top
of
it,
but
still
the
philosophy
of
the
last
Administration
was.
This
was
to
subsize
in
around
real
estate
development.
We've.
G
We
in
the
last
four
years
have
changed
that
so
it'll
be
up
to
this
new
Council,
decide
what
we're
going
to
do
going
forward,
but
when
you're
looking
at
cras,
they're
meant
to
solve
slum
and
black
and
they're
really
objectively,
as
no
some
in
Black
in
downtown.
And
if
you
look
at
the
green
line
versus
the
red
line,
there's
a
huge
amount
money.
So
we're
going
to
the
public
the
mayor's
going
to
the
public
asking
for
an
increase
in
taxes
which
is
going
to
be
a
huge
burden
to
everyone.
G
They
may
decide
that
it's
worth
the
investment
but
but
as
they're
looking
at,
they
want
to
make
sure
we're
good
stewards
of
all
all
of
our
money,
and
so
as
we're
looking
at
that
big
gap,
that's
a
big
gap
that
would
prevent
us
from
having
to
raise
taxes
in
the
future.
Can
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please
and
the
affordable
housing
as
I,
understand
and
talking
to
Ms
Travis
that
was
just
arbitrarily
set
as
a
third
of
331
correct.
G
Is
that
nobody
had
proposed
that
in
fact,
this
list
I,
don't
remember
ever
seeing
this
list.
Nobody
is
I
know
what
some
of
these
projects
are,
but
nobody
from
the
CRA
has
ever
talked
to
me
about
this.
I
had
heard
from
the
community
about
the
Marion
Street
Redevelopment
project,
which,
on
the
surface,
what
I
hear
about
is
I'm
absolutely
opposed
to
it,
I
think.
Instead,
we
should
reopen
it
as
a
street.
There's
enough
congestion
in
downtown
Franklin
Street
has
not
worked
as
a
as
a
as
a
pedestrian
malt.
G
G
We've
got
so
many
residents
next
week
we're
going
to
get
a
briefing
on
how
the
the
area
around
the
the
Amalie
arena
is
changing,
because
because
we
can't
just
shut
down
all
the
streets
anymore,
we
if,
if
we
have
access
to
that
street,
you
see
people
all
the
time
trying
to
drive
down
it
because
it
just
makes
sense
to
drive
down
it
if
Frank.
Instead,
we
should
invest
the
money
in
Franklin
Street.
Maybe
you
got
another
25
million
there,
but
it
hasn't
worked
so
far.
G
I
like
some
of
the
other
projects,
but
still
the
the.
Let
me
see
that
here,
here's
the
thing
I
say
this
over
and
over
again
the
rest
of
the
city.
That's
not
as
Sierra
is
subsidizing
the
cras,
so
a
lot
of
it
is
New.
Tampa,
South,
Tampa
and
people.
Ask
us
all
the
time.
Why
are
we?
Why
don't
we
have
nice
Parks?
Why
don't
we
have
a
nice
sidewalk?
G
Why
don't
we
have
any
sidewalks
and
when
we
buy
a
four
million
dollar
Park
in
Channel
district
and
we
can't
fix
the
benches
and
parks
in
the
rest
of
the
city,
people
complain
and
say:
why
aren't
you
being
good
stewards
of
money
and
I
have
to
say
the
CRA
only
allows
us
to
do
that.
We've
talked
about
this
many
times,
but
if
we're
able
to
move
money
out,
we
could
use
it
in
a
different
way.
G
We
could
still
use
it
on
these
projects
if
we
want,
but
instead
of
being
forced
to
use
it
in
a
geographic
area.
We
could
weigh
the
projects
based
on
the
entire
city
and,
if
we
wanted
to,
we
could
take
that
three
just
to
clarify
for
Morris
Cuts
me
off.
Cra
cannot
decide
what
to
do
with
that
money
when
it
goes
back
to
the
general
fund,
but
city
council
can
partnering
with
the
mayor
and
we
could
at
least
for
a
short
time
set
it
up
as
a
housing
budget.
G
We
could
set
up
as
our
roads
and
complete
streets
or
sidewalk
budget.
We
can
set
it
up
as
as
anything
we
want
as
long
as
we
can
partner
with
the
mayor
and
get
the
votes
to
do
it.
The
question
is:
are
these
projects
worth
it
and
here's
the
thing
that
I
told
Erica
this
morning,
you
know
I
have
to
sit
with
constituents
all
the
time
when
their
roads
are
like
80
percent
falling
apart
and
they
say
why
haven't
you
paved
these
roads
and
so
the
question?
G
But
we
have
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
money
because,
even
if
this
new
tax
passes
in
the
future,
we're
going
to
have
to
pass
more
because
there's
never
going
to
be
enough
money
to
invest
in
in
the
backlog
where
previous
administrations
spent
almost
no
money,
repairing
roads
or
infrastructure.
So
what
I
would
suggest
when
we
get
down
to
the
next
item
is,
as
you
all
look
at
this
list
pick
out
what
you
think
we
should.
We
should
have.
Let's
say
instead
of
117
million.
G
Let's
say
we
cap
it
at
150
or
let's
say
we
cap
it
at
200..
Put
your
take
your
projects
from
here
and
stick
them
in
the
budget
and,
let's
agree
to
it,
but
but
even
if
you,
even
if
you
take
half
of
this,
we
have
almost
200
million
left
over
the
next
10
years.
That's
not
counting
out
to
2043.,
who
knows
that's
probably
another
500
million
out
there
in
the
future
and
think
of
what
the
city
could
do
with
that
money.
G
N
A
question
for
Mr
Massey:
we
can't
use
CRA
money
to
build
a
fire
station
right,
so
we
have
here
136
million
dollars
for
affordable
housing
over
a
10-year
period.
Could
we,
let's
say
going
back
to
what
I
mentioned
earlier
about
big
blue?
Let's
say
the
the
police
department
relocates
to
another
facility
as
has
been
considered,
but
that
building
cannot
be
rehabbed.
It's
cost
prohibitive
and
let's
say
we
demolish
it.
We
keep
the
parking
garage
where
we
demolish
the
building.
Could
we
say
you
know
we're
going
to
build
a
20-story
structure.
N
19
of
those
stories
are
going
to
be
affordable,
housing.
The
bottom
floor
will
be
a
fire
station.
The
CRA
pays
for
the
affordable
housing
part
in
partnership
with
the
city
since
we're
already
on
the
land.
The
general
fund
would
pay
for
that
fire
station
on
the
bottom
floor
is
that
you
know
to
circumvent
the
you
can't
build
the
fire
station
now
that
you're
partnering
with
the
general
fund
is
paying
for
the
fire
station
on
the
first
floor
and
the
Sierra
is
paying
for
the
housing
upstairs
could
would
that
work.
B
That's
probably
feasible
just
I
believe
Mr
stocko
brought
this
up
when
I
walked
outside,
but
I
think
he
brought
up
the
police
substation
3
headquarters
that
was
partially
paid
for
with
CRA
dollars,
because
there
are
CRA
offices
that
were
part
of
that,
and
so
that
was
a
combination
deal
that
partly
came
out
of
the
general
fund
and
partly
came
out
of
the
CRA
fund.
So
we've
done
that
before
so
that
would
be.
That
would
be
a
potential
viable
option.
I.
L
M
No,
it's
just
it's
a
sign
of
the
economy
right
now
in
inflation,
there's
things
are
for
the
for
the
agreements.
You've
made
money's
a
little
tight
to
come
by
so
there's
some
there's.
Some
extensions.
C
C
Carlson
Mr
Burton
I
would
like
to
finish
the
finish
and
then,
if
you
want
to
redirect
and
say
something
administrative
drum
go,
please
do
so.
M
L
L
Also
great
so,
and
that
that
the
projection
you
showed
when
you
talked
about
the
15
million
or
so
for
Tampa
Theater
or
no
14
million
for
Tampa
Theater
I,
think
was
15
million
for
Museum
of
Art
25
for
stress.
That's
over
10
years
commitments
over
the
next
10
years
was
it.
M
No,
those
are
stretched
between
four
and
five
years.
Okay,.
L
Okay,
good
because
I
see
10
down
there.
Let
me
ask
you
something:
I
see
with
regards
to
some
of
the
a
potential
spending
priorities
over
on
the
next
page.
If
I
may
I've
talked
a
lot
about
and
I'm
actually
going
to
make
a
motion
on
this,
because
I
could
have
sworn
that
I
had
coming
back
to
us,
disability,
accessible
Parks
for
cras-
maybe
I
missed
it
on
future
agendas,
but
we
do
have
Curtis
six
in
park
here.
L
It's
used
by
a
lot
of
folks
I,
don't
believe,
and
maybe
I'm
wrong
that
there's
any
you
know
all
abilities
equipment
there.
L
You
know
major
accommodations
for
kids
who
may
have
sensory
challenges,
physical
challenges,
etc,
etc,
and
I
would
like
to
see
that
for
projects
and
programs,
I
I
brought
that
up,
and
we
talked
about
stress
two
years
ago
as
something
that
I'd
love
to
see
in
downtown
and
so
again,
as
somebody
I
remember
who
said
it
I'm
a
little
sick,
so
I'm
slower
than
usual
today,
but
I,
don't
know
how
this
list
came
about.
But
do
we
need
a
motion
to
add
that
on
this
list,
or
is
that
I.
A
M
B
Things
real,
quick,
I
believe
there
you
did
make
that
motion
I,
think
there
was
a
response.
I
think
there
was
CRA
funds
supposed
to
be
set
aside.
Yes,
for
that
purpose
in
all
the
cras,
so
I
and
to
Elise
may
be
able
to
Mr
drum
guy
may
be
able
to
respond
to
that.
This
list
is
not
an
official
list.
This
is
just
a
here's.
What
we're
thinking
about
kind
of
list
over
a
big
project
wise
over
the
next
few
years.
C
A
F
So,
while
I
understand
about
wanting
to
to
that,
we
could
have
spent
this
money
elsewhere.
This
is
money
that
the
CRA
in
the
last
four
years
has
allocated
and
I
just
want
to
know
why
this
money?
Why
do
we
do
this?
If
we
think
it
could
be
a
better
spent
elsewhere,
because
I
mean,
while
I'm
a
lover
of
the
Arts
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
would
say
I
would
rather
have
had
Paving
for
25
million
dollars.
F
I
would
I
mean
right
now
we
don't
have
to
approve
the
15
million
for
the
Tampa
Museum
of
Art.
We
could
take
it
and
go
to
Paving,
but
I.
Don't
believe
that
that's
really
what
we
you
want
to
happen.
I
think
that
there's
value
in
all
of
these
things,
these
things
would
simply
not
be
funded.
If
the
downtown
CRA
didn't
exist,
we
don't
have
the
money.
We
just
don't
I
believe
that
there's
there
are
still
things
that
we
can
do
in
our
downtown
core
that
are
valuable.
Please
go
to
the
next
slide.
F
F
F
That
I,
understand
and
I
understand
that
that
Mr
Carlson
doesn't
like
to
move
money
like
that,
but
I
think
it's
a
valuable
way
to
go
about
it,
and
so
I'm,
just
saying
I
see
your
vision
and
why
you
put
the
numbers
where
they
are
and
my
only
other
random
question
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
any
of
this
is
Kylie
Garden
Redevelopment.
Do
we
own
that
parking
garage,
or
do
we
just
own
that
Garden
above
it.
B
B
F
Out,
well,
you
know
what
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
for
those
30
days,
because
you
were
able
to
get
a
quicker
answer
now.
So
thank
you,
but
so
that
11
million
dollars
I
mean
that
parking
structure
needs
to
be
completely
redone
and
and
I
will
just
say.
I
read
a
study
recently
about
the
weight
of
new
cars
and
how
that's
going
to
affect
parking
structure.
So
I
am
not
at
all
in
favor
of
saving
any
old
parking
structures.
I
believe
they
do
need
to
be
rebuilt
because
of
the
weight
of
what's
coming.
C
I
It's
true
that
what
what
the
councilor
Marcy
Massey
said
about
the
the
structure-
I,
don't
think
I
was
here
when
that
was
done,
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
don't
think
I
was.
But
there
is
something
that's
correct,
because
you
don't
want
floor,
not
the
other
one
and
the
other
one.
You
do
and
it
had
a
lot
of
flooding
problems
in
the
past.
I
remember
that
I
was
here
for
that.
I
So
I,
don't
know
how
that
structure
is,
and
when
you
look
at
television
anything
that's
of
age
and
gets
a
lot
of
water
and
change
in
temperature.
I,
don't
care
if
it's
made
out
of
steel
or
whatever
it
is,
it
will
rot
and
it
will
cause
problems
when
you're.
Looking
now
at
the
infrastructure
of
America,
it's
in
sad
shape
all
over
all
over
the
United
States.
I
So
I
don't
think
those
structures
are
going
to
last
a
long
time,
but
they
have
to
be
looked
at
by
people
that
know
what
they're
talking
about
engineers
or
whatever
that
we
hire
the
Duke
and
I
think
it's
time
to
look
at
some
of
those
things,
because
you
certainly
don't
want
a
catastrophe.
If
we
know
about
it,.
C
Okay,
so
at
this
point
out
of
respect
for
board
member
Carlson,
who
wanted
to
interject
a
question,
he
asked
for
a
Deputy
Administrator
drum
go
to
come
up.
I
want
to
before
you
speak
drum,
go
because
I
do
realize
that
you
sit
on
the
board
for
these
stress.
Would
this
be
a
conflict
of
interest
for
you
to
have
this
conversation.
O
And
ideal
at
this
point
yeah
so
for
the
record,
at
least
from
Deputy
Administrator
for
development
and
Economic
Opportunity
and
I
also
sit
on
that
board
with
board
member
Mattis
Falco,
but
the
the
yes,
the
the
Straz
will
be
back
before
you
at
some
point
in
October
with
a
project
update
but
but
the
commitment
that
we
have
in
place.
It's
a
lock
and
we're
we're
okay,
there,
okay,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
what
what
additional
detail
or
questions
need
to
be
flushed
out
here.
C
H
One
I
think
I,
don't
want
what
Carlson
councilman
Carlson
said
to
get
lost
in
all
of
this
discussion,
because
he
perfectly
framed
the
the
dire
situation
we're
in
is
trying
to
fund
everything
outside
of
the
city.
That's
not
in
a
CRA.
He
was
absolutely
correct
when
you
see
these
examples.
This
is
why
the
streets
in
South,
Tampa
and
Portion,
you
know
Sulfur,
Springs
and
New
Tampa
and
all
these
areas
that
are
not
in
Sea
areas.
H
This
is
why
they're
in
such
bad
shape,
because
we've
got
all
this
money
in
these
cras
that
right
now
we
can't
spend
anywhere
else
besides
the
the
cras.
Unless
we
do
some
creative,
maybe
kind
of
weird
I,
don't
even
know
what
how
legally
we
could
do.
Some
of
those
things
I
think
staff
is
going
to
come
back
to
us
to
try
to
figure
out
what
we
can
if
there
is
any
legal
mechanism
to
get
money
out
of
these
cras
to
be
able
to
accomplish
some
of
these
goals.
But
you
know
when
they
created
the
cras.
H
These
these
cras
have
become
an
incredibly
successful,
more
probably
more
successful
than
anybody
envisioned
them
to
ever
be
at
the
time
that
they
were
done
so
victim
of
their
own
success.
But
you
know
this
is
where
we're
at
right
now,
so
until
if
we
can
Sunset
them
or
if
we
can,
if
we
can
peel
them
back
whatever
the
legal
possibilities,
are,
you
know
that's
great.
D
H
Marion
Street
Redevelopment
of
building
roads
there,
because
you
know
in
the
urban
core
I'm
so
much
more
about
moving
people
and
not
vehicles.
You
know
I
I
really
want
to
be
able
to.
We
need
to
turn
into
that
type
of
a
city
where
we
can
create
Mobility
that
is
not
dependent
upon
private
Vehicles
flying
through
the
city
to
get
from
point
A
to
point
B.
H
So
you
know
building
buildings,
these
Mobility
programs
through
streetcar
expansion
and
Rapid
buses,
white
bike,
walk
Scooter,
whatever
Water
Taxis,
whatever
we
come
up
with
to
move
people
around
our
Urban
core
I
think
is
that
where
we
go
so
when
we
look
at
something
like
that,
Marion
Street,
Redevelopment,
I
hope
to
do
to
see
that
I
agree.
Franklin
Street
was
another
one
of
these
failed.
You
know
best
intentions,
obviously
a
failed
concept.
H
You
know
one
day
we're
going
to
have
to
visit
that,
but
you
look
at
the
list
of
priorities
of
what
you
see.
Downtown
yeah
it'd
be
nice
to
be
able
to
accomplish
almost
everything
on
this
list.
But
what
is
the
biggest
amount
of
gain
that
we
could
do
for
in
a
small
amount
of
time
with
with
the
money
and
the
availability
that
we
have
I?
Think
if
we
look
for
Mobility
programs
and
transportation
programs
I
think
that's
the
answer.
That's
that
should
be
our
priorities
and
that's
what
we
should
look
at
moving
forward
boy.
G
Remember
Carlson,
thank
you.
Just
just
a
scheduling
thing:
I
have
to
be
on
a
call
from
3
30,
3
45,
so
I'm
going
to
step
out
just
before
that
and
we'll
come
back.
If
you
all
want
to
I,
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
like
we're
ready
to
vote
on
number
seven
today.
So
I
could
make
a
motion
to
move
it
to
next
month,
but
just
a
few
a
few
comments.
G
He
was
sort
of
stepped
out,
but
you
know
I'm
talking
about
Marion
Street
versus
Franklin
Street
I'm
in
in
favor,
ideally
of
pedestrian
malls,
but
the
center
of
gravity
is
not
in
that
direction
and
and
if
there
was
a
development
along
that
Corridor,
that
would
lend
itself
to
creating
activity
on
the
street.
That
might
make
sense,
there's
already
not
activity
on
Franklin
Street
enough
and
maybe
we're
going
to
run
the
streetcar
down
there.
G
I
don't
know,
but
but
if
we
want
to
invest
something
to
figure
out,
if
we
can
activate
Franklin
Street
again,
I
would
be
okay
with
that.
But
to
create
another
Pedestrian
Mall,
that's
going
to
be
empty
and
fail
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
we
should
do
that,
and
we've
tried
with
Festival
Marketplace
and
things
like
the
one
on
Harbor
Island
and
the
one
at
Channel
district,
and
these
things
these
things
fail.
G
So
what
are
we
going
to
do
we're
going
to
spend
100
million
to
get
the
get
people
to
invest
and
then
nobody's
going
to
walk
on
it
right
now
we're
trying
to
do
that
in
Ybor
and
again,
if
we
had
this
money
outside
of
downtown,
we
could
spending
in
a
place
where
it
actually
could
could
be
activated.
There's
a
lot
of
activation.
That's
going
to
go
on
in
Ybor
soon
to
the
art.
Could
you
go
back?
One
slide
I'll
take
blame
for
at
least
the
Straz
Center
and
Tampa
Theater.
G
What
happened
is
that
three
four
years
ago,
I
wanted
to
make
a
motion
to
put
a
cap
on
downtown
and
channel
district
and
I
took
the
channel
district
one
to
a
vote
and
it
failed
I
failed
to
get
the
votes
to
put
a
cap
on
it.
I
had
on
the
agenda
to
put
the
downtown
one
on
cap
on
and
I
felt
like
I
didn't,
have
the
vote
so
I
took
it
off
the
agenda
so
to
be
fair
to
anybody
was
here.
G
It
never
came
up
to
a
vote,
but
I
didn't
think
I
had
the
votes
or
I
would
have
done
it.
Seeing
that
there
was
no
support
to
put
a
cap
on
it,
then
I
pushed
to
invest
in
things.
That
would
help
the
whole
city,
not
just
not
just
part
of
the
city.
If
we're
doing
sidewalks
in
downtown
South
Tampines
sidewalks
New
Tampa
needs
sidewalks,
East
Tampa
West
Tampa
still
need
sidewalks,
e-boarding
sidewalks.
G
So
what
are
the
things
that
could
benefit
us
and
Tampa
Theater
Performing
Arts
Center
are
used
by
everybody
throughout
the
city
and
they're
they're
seen
as
Jewels
the
last
Administration
defy
funded
them
attacked
them.
It
hurt
their
ability
to
raise
money.
Straz
Center
was
looking
to
raise
a
hundred
million
dollars
for
their
expansion
is
a
city-owned
property
and
they
were
looking
to
put
in
a
hundred
million
dollars,
but
they
shelved
that
project
during
covid
and
they
were
not
going
to
reactivate
it.
G
When
we
came
back
to
us-
and
several
of
us
talked
to
them,
I
think
what
we
did
is
we
proposed
putting
a
25
percent
of
100
million
dollar
investment,
so
they're
going
to
invest
75
more
million
and
probably
more
after
that
in
our
building
and
we're
only
putting
in
20
25
million,
so
we're
getting
a
pretty
good
return
on
it.
G
But
we
know
from
economic,
real
economic
development
that
that
organizations
like
Straz
Center,
Tampa
Theater
other
Arts
organizations,
are
deeply
connected
to
our
ability
to
attract
and
maintain
tech
companies
in
our
area,
Tampa
Theater
every
there
was
no
opposition
to
that.
It
is
a
jewel
of
our
community
again,
the
last
administration
had
viciously
attacked
them,
and
this
money
will
will
enable
them
to
completely
restore
the
museum.
If
I
had
a
preference
going
back
three
years
ago,
I
would
rather
move
the
money
out.
G
I,
absolutely
think
it
should
have
been
spent
on
roads
in
other
parts
of
the
city
and
affordable
housing.
Another
thing,
but
since
I
didn't
think
we
had
the
votes
to
do
it.
We
did
this
so
now
we're
at
a
point
where
there
are
things
that
we
could
spend
money
on,
but
but
if
we
had
to
compare
that
to
explaining
to
constituents
why
we're
fixing
the
roads,
which
is
a
basic
thing,
I
think
it's
difficult
to
the
point
where
I
interrupted
a
few
minutes
ago.
The
strata
Center
has
raised.
G
They
have
kept
their
commitments,
they
have
raised
and
I'm
not
on
the
board
I'm,
not
in
any
way
involved
with
them.
I've
never
been
on
the
board.
They
have
raised
their
matching
money
what's
happening.
Is
then
the
supply
chain
issues
going
on
worldwide
and
the
cost
of
things
I
think
they're
going
to
come
back
to
us
and
ask
for
a
small,
minor
alteration
in
the
schedule.
They've
done
everything
else
to
keep
their
commitment
so
I.
G
What
I
did
not
want
anybody
to
have
is
the
impression
that
somehow
they
have
not
kept
their
promises
because
they
have
the
the
police
building
when
we
were
sold
the
idea
of
Hannah
Avenue.
Originally
it
was
108
million,
and
then
the
city
was
going
to
sell
the
police
building
and
they
estimated
22
million
24
million.
Something
like
that,
and
then
they
were
going
to
sell
that
building
on
Spruce
Street
and
that
would
be
like
another
30
million
or
so
I.
G
Don't
remember
the
exact
numbers,
but
together
that
was
going
to
add
up
to
about
40
50
million
dollars,
which
would
offset
the
108
million
and
then,
when
they
came
back
to
us
to
approve
it
the
final
time
and
originally
was
two
buildings.
When
they
came
back,
they
said
they
were
going
to
delay
selling
the
police
station
and
delays
selling
the
other
one.
But
I
want
to
point
out
there
that
was
justification
for
Hannah
Avenue
had
had
they
not
talked
about
selling
the
police
building
and
the
spruce
building
to
make
up
for
it.
G
I
never
would
have
supported
it
in
the
beginning,
I
think
I
I
believe
that
we
should
put
facilities
downtown,
but
that's
a
really
important
piece
of
property
that
could
be
developed
by
the
private
sector.
We
could
ask
them
to
put
affordable
housing.
We
could
subsidize
them
portfolio
housing.
We
could
ask
them
to
make
it
a
town
center,
whatever
we
want,
but
it's
a
really
important
place.
We
know
from
our
internal
assessments
of
the
building
that
it
does.
Its
life
span
is,
is
near
finished,
so
I
would
just
go
back
to
that.
There
are.
G
There
are
opportunities
in
downtown,
but
I
would
ask
everyone
to.
Please
look
at
go
back
to
that
next
list.
As
you
look
at
this
next
list.
Think
about
what
do
you
think
is
an
absolute
must
like
likes
park.
We
have
to
put
the
benches
back
in
likes
park.
That's
a
must:
that's
not
1.7
million,
but
there
are
things
that
you
all
may
want,
but
come
back
if
I
could
I,
maybe
I'll,
maybe
I'll
move
item
number
seven
the
next
month,
but
think
about
which
ones-
and
this
is
as
Moore
said.
This
is
not
our
list.
G
This
is
the
first
time
I've
ever
seen.
This
list
nobody's
even
talked
to
me
about
these
projects,
so
you
may
have.
This
is
not
a
prioritization
that
we
put
in.
So
if
you
have
ideas
of
projects
that
you
want
in
downtown,
come
back
and
get
let's
get
a
ballpark.
So,
instead
of
117
million
cap,
what
if
we
put
200
million
or
cap
or
150
million
cap,
but
if
there's
anything
extra
above
that
to
do
we,
we
have
to
justify
it
by
by
telling
residents
that
we're
not
fixing
their
road
because
we're
paying
for
these
things.
G
And
that's
that's
where
I
have
a
concern.
If
we
can
prevent
tax
increases
in
the
future
by
moving
money
and
and
or
moving
money
into
things
that
we
need
somebody.
Some
a
group
asked
me
the
other
day.
Why
don't?
We
have
a
CIA
RA
in
Sulfur,
Springs
and
I've
explained
here:
cras
are
about
subsidizing
high-end
housing,
they're,
not
about
help
really
helping
communities.
The
money
comes
in
from
you
know:
we
get
we
get
Water
Street,
and
then
we
use
the
money
to
subsidize
the
next
development.
But
I
said
how
many
I
asked
the
people.
G
How
many
of
you
think
that
the
25
million
generated
by
Channel,
district
and
downtown
is
best
spent
in
downtown
versus
Sulfur
Springs,
and
everybody
agreed
that
it
should
be
spent
in
Sulfur
Springs.
So
if
you
all
want
to
take
300
million
dollars
and
put
in
a
fund
for
Sulfur
Springs
or
whatever
I'm
fine
I,
just
don't
feel
comfortable
paying
for
things
that
are
nice
to
have,
rather
than
things
that
we
really
need.
L
Thank
you
very
much
and
if
I
go
on
questions
that
I
was
asking
before
I
I
wasn't
done
with
my
remarks.
So
that's
if
I'm
I
go
back
in
time.
It's
because
I
wasn't
done
with
my
remarks
with
it's
funny
with
the
stress
question,
as
a
civil,
litigator
I'm,
always
20
years.
What
is
that?
Don't
ask
a
question.
You
don't
know
the
answer
to
you
know
what
I'm
saying,
which
is
which
is
kind
of
funny
with,
but
going
back
to
the
disability.
L
Parks
again,
I
would
like
that
added
to
this
list
a
couple
of
months
ago
we
did
have
a
presentation
by
Parks
and
Recreation
in
in
CRA
for
things
that
can
be
done
with
a
plan
that
was
made.
L
I
could
have
sworn
that
I
had
that
coming
back,
because
I
usually
have
things
come
back,
because
if
you
don't
have
things
come
back,
then
they
get
away
from
you
right.
So
I
will
motion
to
have
that
come
back
next
month
in
fact,
and
see
what
what
yes,
sir,
go
ahead.
Second,
okay.
A
O
In
my
apologies
for
for
wanting
to
speak
to
it,
we
actually
do
all
as
a
board.
You
approve
that
plan
you,
you
already
approved
the
parks
plan
for
accessibility
and
and
an
inclusive
play
equipment
throughout
all
cras.
And
so,
if
you
recall,
we
brought
forth
that
list
to
you.
We
presented
that
with
the
cost,
approximately
3.2
million
dollars
across
all
cras,
and
we
showed
you
the
condensed
timeline
that
that
the
city
would
would
reach
in
order
to
integrate
all
of
those
elements.
O
So
you've
already
approved
that
and
we've
already
started
working
with
parks
on
that
yeah.
So
when
you,
when
you
say,
bring
it
back,
I
guess
I
I
need
to
understand,
because
there's
a
there's
actually
a
timeline
relative
to
each
Park
and
we
laid
it
out
on
an
annual
basis
when
those
improvements
would
take
place.
So
just
want
to
gather
and
understand.
L
And
I
really
really
appreciate
that
and
when
I
say
bring
it
back,
I
don't
mean
for
any
further
action,
just
to
see
how
it's
going
so
I'll
do
it
more
than
a
month
out
given
heck
I'll.
Do
it
six
months
out
I,
don't
care
just
so
that
it
stays
in
our
in
our
view,
so
I'll
do
that
at
the
end,
but
you're.
What
you've
just
said
is
stellar
and
spectacular
and
warrants
in
prevents
the
the
thing
next
month.
So
there
you
go
and
yes,
sir.
H
H
J
F
L
L
I
get
it
and
and
attorney
Massey.
Your
points
are
very
well
taken.
These
are
the
10
suggestions,
not
the
Ten,
Commandments
and
they're,
subject
to
Liberal
amendments.
So
very
well
said
when
it
comes
to
the
capping
of
the
downtown
CRA,
it's
funny
because
my
recollection
always
was,
and
maybe
I'm
wrong
here.
I
always
voted
against
for
Channelside,
because
there's
some
unintended
consequences
that
could
come
from
that,
but
for
the
downtown
CR
always
voted
to
cap
it.
My
understanding
was
the
consequences
of
doing
that
would
be
very,
very
limited.
L
I
recall
that
past
four
to
three,
if
I
recall,
I,
could
be
wrong.
Who
knows
but
again,
I've
I've
always
been
supportive
of
that.
Because,
again,
like
folks,
have
said
you
take
a
look
at
this
list.
It's
almost
like
we're.
Looking
at
Hey,
listen,
we
got
this
money.
We
got
to
spend
it
on
these
projects
and
it
just
again
I
support
a
downtown
CRA
I
always
have
I
come
from
a
district
where
there
are
no
cras
in
in
certain
areas,
especially
New
Tampa.
Have
some
heartburn
over
this
and
I
would
go.
L
But
there
also
is
some
common
sense
and
I
think
that
capping
it
and
continuing
to
look
at
it
and
acting
upon
it
if
it
makes
sense,
would
make
sense
and
and
what
not,
with
regards
to
the
strats
I
I,
don't
recall
again,
I'm
a
little
bit
sick
and
slower
than
usual
whatever
in
in
terms
of
going
back
on
our
word,
I
I
for
I
to
the
extent
that
you
know
contractual
obligations
have
been
made
Etc
et
cetera.
Again,
my
vote
was
what
it
was
I
stand
by
it.
L
So,
just
for
the
record,
as
the
one
dissenting
vote
on
that
on
that
CRA
I'm,
not
talking
about
going
back
in
her
word
and
I,
wouldn't
support
that,
because
character
of
a
body
is
very,
very
important
and
no
and
it's
not
in
dispute
that
they
do
amazing
work
so
again,
I
think
that
our
I
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
back
and
reward
or
anything
of
that
nature.
It's
just
for
the
record.
Thank
you
very
much.
N
So
some
interesting
things
were
brought
up.
You
know
this.
You
know
the
CRA
money
can
only
be
spent
for
the
downtown
Syria
within
those
boundaries,
but
there's
ways
to
get
around
that
and
councilwoman.
Her
attack
brought
up
a
great
point.
I
think
that
and
I'll
make
this
into
a
motion
that
that
the
CRA
Explorer
buying
the
tpd
building
from
the
city
of
Tampa.
N
If
you
said
30
million
dollars
that
would
go
to
the
general
fund
that
could
be
used
for
a
new
police
station.
I'd
talk
to
some
people
in
the
not
the
administration,
but
on
the
other
side
about
where
and
what
possibilities
there
are
for
tpd.
N
We
were
then,
as
a
CRA
own,
that
you
know
we
buy
that
parcel.
We
already
have
the
the
land
belongs
to
the
city,
and
then
we
have
money
there
to
create
or
build
that
affordable
housing,
whether
we
keep
that
parking
garage,
I,
know
they're
expensive
or
we
tear
it
down
and
build
a
new
structure
because
showing
the
numbers
here
over
the
10-year
period,
136
million
dollars
for
affordable
housing,
Spruce
Street
was
mentioned
not
in
a
CRA.
You
know,
and
if
it
was
mentioned
that
you
know
the
city
would
would
sell
that
property.
N
You
know
to
offset
costs
for
hand
or
whatever
I
think
the
city,
and
this
is
a
discussion
for
city
council.
The
city
should
keep
that
property
I,
don't
know
how
it's
zoned
or
how
we
have
to
change
it
and
use
it
for
multi-family
and
have
housing
there
and
keep
it
within
the
city's
control.
Within
that
neighborhood.
It's
a
neighborhood
and
and
residential
would
work
there.
N
C
C
G
No
I
appreciate
the
creative
thinking
by
everybody,
but
my
understanding
was
this
was
going
to
be
sold
to
the
private
sector
and
my
my
preference
is
that
particular
that's
a
very
valuable
piece
of
property.
We
already
had
a
couple
subsidized
properties
around
here.
We
need
to
the
the
we're
raising
taxes
because
we
need
or
the
mayor's
proposing,
raising
taxes,
because
we
need
money
to
be
able
to
fix
roads
and
things.
It's
better
we're
better
off
getting
the
private
sector.
L
You
very
much
yeah,
no
just
wanted
to
salute
the
the
the
quit
thinking
on
the
diets.
I
think
councilwoman
hurt
talked
about
it
in
councilman,
obviously
Maniscalco
making
the
motion
for
this.
If,
if
this
can
work,
that
would
be
great,
and
you
know
my
view-
is
that
for
our
our
Public
Safety
improvements
that
we
need,
let's
get
them.
However,
we
can,
if
it's
through
a
reasonable
Village
increase.
Let's
do
it
if
it's
through
this,
whatever
it
may
be,
so
I
just
wanted
to
salute
you
all
for
that.
F
Would
then
listening
to
board
member
Carlson
make
a
friendly
amendment
to
say:
let's
explore
that,
but
also
see
what
amount
of
money
we
could
get,
maybe
from
the
private
sector
your
thoughts
on
what
the
best
way
to
go
about
that
might
be,
or
no
that.
F
Yeah,
okay,
okay!
So
then
yes,
then
never
mind:
okay,
Lord.
N
Maniscalco
you
know
my
point
is
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
want
us
to
maintain
control
of
that
property,
because
land
in
downtown
is
sparse
either
it's
a
surface
parking
lot
or
it's
another
development,
and
this
is
in
the
core.
I
know
it's
a
very
valuable
piece,
but
it's
our
valuable
piece
and
I
want
to
maintain
that,
but
also-
and
this
will
be
a
city
council
issue
once
we
get
this
report
back
on
the
12th
I'm-
going
to
bring
up
on
the
19th.
N
Depending
on
what
the
report
says-
I'll
bring
up
on
the
19th
of
the
city
council
meeting
how
we
can
then
utilize
that
bottom
floor
I
was
was
mentioned
by
councilmember
Miranda.
In
the
discussion
we
had
earlier
to
create
a
new
fire
station
downtown
again
we
control
the
property
and
I
think
it
kills.
Multiple
birds
with
with
one
stone,
we're
building
the
housing
in
the
downtown
core,
but
we're
also
accommodating
the
requests
and
the
needs
in
the
public
safety
sector
of
another
fire
station.
N
Because
thinking
about
what
was
proposed-
and
you
know
more
ALS
units
and
everything
where
do
we
put
those
you
know,
we-
we
have
a
growing
downtown
population,
a
growing
density
and
we
need
space.
So
I
think
this
would,
if
every
if
all
the
chips
fall
into
into
place,
I
think
this
would
work,
because
we
have,
you
know
we're
stuck
with
how
we
can
spend
the
money
downtown
and
I
think
this
allows
us
to
circumvent
the
rules,
while
you
know
using
it
for
a
good
public
purpose.
N
C
C
F
Thank
you
I.
You
know
thinking
again
when
it
comes
to
Marion,
Street,
Redevelopment,
I'm,
honestly
curious
what
what
it
would
look
like
if
we
really
have
to
have
a
street
if
we're
really
looking
at
streetcar
expansion,
we
already
have
that
space.
F
So
I'm
going
to
request
did
that
come
forward.
I
will
put
it
out
October
12th,
but
if
it
takes
longer.
O
Go
ahead
if
I
may
and
I
know
that
I
know
that
it,
it
may
feel
like
this
looks
a
little
bit
different
from
when
I
presented
it
during
the
retreat,
but
this
is
virtually
the
same
list
of
items
that
I
presented
during
the
retreat
and
at
that
time,
I
shared
with
you
all
that
these
items
had
come.
O
These
came
forward
from
your
CAC,
and
so
when
we're
talking
about
programmatically
looking
at
projections
or
projects,
you
know,
while
there
are
no
commitments,
these
are
things
that
the
CAC
have
recommended
that
we
continue
to
go
forward
with,
and
so
with
that
with
with
the
Marion
Street
Redevelopment,
there
there's
actually
money
in
the
budget
for
this
fiscal
year
in
order
to
explore
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
like
how
we
better
repurpose
or
utilize
that
space
so
I
just
want
to
say
that
the
the
funding
is
there
for
it.
O
But
again
it's
a
matter
of
whether
or
not
the
board
would
like
to
move
forward
with.
You
know
that
seeing
that
plan
or
that
study
and
then
ultimately
what
you
do
on
the
Redevelopment
side,
okay,.
F
Well,
I
just
would
make
like
to
make
sure
that
that
A
Streetcar
extension
be
considered
for
that
corridor.
It
seems
like
it
would
be
less
dramatic
than
any
other
place,
understood.
O
C
I,
don't
think
you
should
just
receive
it
just
because
we're
up
here
saying
it
there's
a
lot
of
things
said:
if
there's
anything
that
you
want
to
clarify
or
a
comment
on
regarding
this
discussion
of
your
presentation,
this
is
the
opportunity
to
do
that
and
then
I'll
move
forward
with
what
I
want
to
say.
M
Other
than
the
list
that
we
have
is
exactly
what
Elise
says
it
is
it
it's
been
derived
from
community
Through
us
we've
talked
about
it
at
Great
length,
Marion
Street,
we
put
money
inside
this
year
for
you
to
look
at
that.
If
you
wanted
to
it's
up
to
you
to
decide,
the
only
thing
that
that
I'll
add
is,
is
that
you
know
it's
all
based
on
the
plan
and
you
are
currently
in
planning
with
your
CAC
and
a
consultant,
and
that
plan
will
be
coming
forward
to
you
in
the
near
future
near
future.
M
So
all
I
can
say
is
if
it's
not
on
the
plan,
you
can't
do
it
make
sure
it's
in
the
plan,
so
the
attorney
there
will
be
a
much
happier
attorney,
not
have
to
say
no
so
much
and
make
sure
you
get
what
you
want
in
your
plan
and
then
and
by
the
way
there
are
statutory
remedies
for.
If
you
want
to
take
money
from
the
CRA
at
the
end
of
the
year
that
hasn't
been
spent.
M
C
You
know
I
I
mean
since
I'm
new
here,
I
I
really
want
to
want
to
see
Central
Park
on
this
plan
in
some
kind
of
way.
Is
this
on
CRA,
so
it
okay,
so
that
wouldn't
matter,
then
that's
okay,
then
I'll.
Leave
that
point
Alone.
The
other
part
that
I
wanted
to
just
briefly.
C
There
was
so
much
that
up
here
earlier,
but
I
I
am
I'm
glad
that
board
member
Carlson,
although
he's
not
sitting
here
right
now
mention
how
he
got
to
the
point
where
he
recommended
that
the
strats
get
25
million
dollars,
because
I
didn't
understand
that
for
a
long
time
and
I,
you
know
it's
voted
upon
like
board
member
Viera
said
you
know
we
can't
go
back
on
our
word,
it's
a
vote
and
it
passed,
but
everyone
does
not
benefit
from
our
wonderful
assets
in
this
city.
C
I
must
say
that
I
know
that
for
a
fact,
because
I
wrote
a
grant
to
take
175
students
to
the
Straz
theater
myself,
and
it
was
an
amazing
experience
for
them.
I
still
have
the
card
that
they
wrote
me
because
that
was
the
first
time
that
they've
ever
gone
there.
C
Nevertheless,
it
is
an
asset,
and
it's
important
that
you
know
we
take
care
of
those
things,
but
not
at
the
expense
of
some
of
our
greatest
needs,
and
that
is
housing,
but
also
there
was
this
comment
made
about
how
the
previous
administration
viciously
took
away
from
the
Arts
I
I.
Don't
necessarily
like
the
terminology
of
how
we
reference
our
past
administrations.
C
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
you
know,
I
just
wanted
to
tie
a
couple
of
things
together.
I
know
that
we've,
you
know
you've
had
a
lot
of
discussion,
but
for
the
rest
of
the
board
as
well.
You
know
your
director
Moody
just
went
through
your
objectives
and
where
the
organization
is
headed
as
a
whole,
and
so
you
know
I
just
it
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
to
you
all
that
you
know
your
downtown
is
a
key
part
of
that
and
the
objectives
that
you
all
set
forth.
O
You
know
there
will
be
opportunities
to
pick
up
new
projects.
When
you
talk
about
a
Redevelopment
Plan
update,
when
you
talk
about
all
the
things
that
that
could
potentially
happen
with
our
economy
in
the
coming
years
there
there
is
some
uncertainty
and
I
think
that
our
office
Market
has
outperformed
peer
cities.
There's
a
there's,
a
real
chance
at
some
point
that
you
know
your
CRA
may
be
a
key
vehicle
and
to
to
either
preserve
or
to
rescue
some
of
these
buildings
downtown.
O
Should
they
become
more
vacant,
so
you
know
I
just
want
to.
You
know
just
put
that
out
there
to
say
that
you
all
are
charting
A
New
Path
in
a
new
direction,
and
you
will
certainly
need
to
fund
some
of
those
initiatives
as
you
consider
for
next
month.
What
you
decide
to
do
here
with
your
downtown
CRA
Tiff.
L
F
Board
member
hertech,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
quickly
respond
to
what
Mr
drongo
said.
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
bringing
that
point
up,
because
it's
something
because
we
are
in
our
economic
situation
right
now
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
we
are,
we
are
incredibly
blessed
and
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
the
point
that
we
may
not
always
be
this
blessed
and
that
in
fact,
I
do
believe.
F
I
just
read
in
the
Business
Journal
that
that
in
the
next
six
months,
or
so
we're
going
to
find
out
whether
those
office
leases
are
being
extended
or
not.
So
we
may,
we
may
have
issues
before
us
before.
We
know
it
so
I
think
maybe,
with
this
conversation
maybe
a
year
to
year,
consideration
of
what
we
can
do
with
extra
money
in
the
downtown
cra.
F
C
Thank
you
item
number
eight
director
Moody.
E
E
Okay,
great
yeah,
we'll
just
continue
the
discussion.
Great
item
eight
is
regarding
we
pulled
the
budgets
for
the
city
and
CRA
service
agreement
for
the
last
four
years
and
included
any
budget
amendments
that
were
include
included
over
the
last
four
years.
M
C
C
There
no
problem
agenda
items;
yes,
so
that
would
do
you
have
any
closing
remarks
for
any
of
those
staff
reports.
Anything
no
ma'am.
Okay,
thank
you.
So
now
we're
going
to
remove
go
on
to
our
consent
items
nine
and
ten.
C
F
E
F
Yeah
four
acres
for
233
thousand
dollars,
because
because
there's
no
utilities
you
would
but
we're
just
really
lucky,
because
the
yeah,
the
I
forget
who's
selling
it
Redevelopment
agency
or
the.
F
F
But
either
way
I
I
just
want
to
thank
I'm
so
happy
that
the
staff
has
our
feelers
out
everywhere
and
so
that
when
this
opportunity
came
up,
they
came
to
us
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
that.
This
is
magical
property.
Yes,.
C
Okay,
all
right,
so
let's
go
ahead
on
and
approve
our
consent
agenda
items
all
those
in
favor
opposed
consent.
Agenda
care
agenda
carries
okay,
so
now
we're
on
to
new
business,
councilmember
Tech.
F
The
Habitat
for
Humanity
Hillsborough
County
has
recognized
East
Tampa
CRA,
with
a
Community
Partnership
award
and
I
would
like
to
invite
them
to
the
September
17th
CRA
board,
meeting
to
present
on
the
impact
award
and
the
successful
Partnerships.
All
those
in
favor
I.
H
Like
the
motion
to
ask
the
staff
to
present
a
report
to
Tampa
City,
Council
and
I'll
come
up
with
a
date
in
a
second
on
the
previous
and
I
know:
you're
very
familiar
with
this.
What
was
formerly
known
as
the
mayor's
challenge
fund
to
find
out
Lessons,
Learned
and
how
we
could
possibly
breathe
life
into
that.
If.
C
B
F
Apologies
I
will
I,
will
change
yeah.
Okay,
you.
D
D
L
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you
very
much
and
good
meeting
by
the
way
long
and
you
ran
it
so
so
well
well
done
if
I
may
say
so.
You
know
you're
welcome.
I
I
had
motion
in
city
council
for
staff
to
meet
with
the
hive.
H-I-V-E
for
potential
projects
on
disability,
related
housing
and
I
said
I
was
going
to
do
the
same
thing
for
CRA
staff
and
I'd.
Ask
them
to
come
back
with
that
I'll.
L
Have
it
I,
don't
remember
when
I
had
it
coming
back
in
city
council,
but
I'll
do
it
in
December
and
again,
if
you
all
need
more
time,
please
we
can
do
January
February,
it's
all
good.
So
just
let
me
know
and
all
that
then
next,
if
I
may
I
had
indicated
regarding
the
CRA
improvements
to
parks
and
cras
for
disabilities
I'd,
just
like
a
report
on
that
in
April
of
2024,
which
is
about
six
months
from
now
again,
if
more
times
needed.
It's
all
good!
L
L
So
the
first
one
and
again
I
apologize
okay,
a
little
under
the
weather
for
CRA
staff
to
meet
with
the
hive
for
grant
funding
for
disability
related
housing
for
them
to
come
back
with
a
report
in
December.
L
C
A
L
A
C
L
L
One
more
I
know
right
motion
for
staff
to
report
on
a
grant
funded
by
the
CRA,
with
a
with
a
match
to
support
equipment,
including
special
needs
equipment
for
kids,
Kings,
kids,
learning
on
34th
Street,
one
of
East
Tampa's
finest
daycare
facilities.
I
know
many
of
us
have
taken
tours
of
there
and
just
on
the
feasibility
of
that
again
to
come
back
in
December
of
2023.
More
time
is
needed
again.
It's
all
good.
C
H
A
H
Think
we
should
move
to
Central
that
councilman
Brad
had
a
good
failure
to
wear
a
tie
this
afternoon.
B
Report
before
you
got
during
the
meeting
real
quickly,
one
is
part
of
updating
the
CAC
policy.
I
was
asked
to
look
at
our
bylaws
and
our
bylaws
have
not
been
updated
since
2008
and
there
have
been
some
serious
changes
in
the
CRA
law
since
then,
so
our
bylaws
don't
really
read
exactly
the
way
they
probably
should
so.
I
have
a
red
line
version
of
the
changes,
I'm
proposing
that
hand
out,
and
we
can
vote
on
it
and
perhaps
or
at
the
next
CRA
board
meetings
of
that
distance.
Absolutely.
C
C
You
I
want
to
move
that
all
programs
funded
all
youth
programs
funded
by
the
CRA
and
managed
by
the
CRA
staff,
be
transitioned
to
the
neighborhood
and
Community
Affairs
under
director.
Osia
Nguyen
for
management
and
funding
do
I
have
a
second
second.
Thank
you,
Mr
Miranda.
Is
there
any
discussion
because
I
want
to
give
some
context
to
it
as
well?
Okay,
yeah
thank.
J
C
We
had
a
really
great
program:
the
East
Tampa
program,
summer
program
that
was
led
this
summer
and
it's
it's
fine.
The
way
that
it
is.
But
we
have
an
opportunity
with
all
of
our
youth
employment
programs
to
bring
them
under
one
umbrella,
so
our
CRA
can
actually
do
their
CRA
job.
And
then
we
have
this
funding
house
under
the
umbrella
of
all
of
our
summer,
youth
employment
programs.
C
For
a
couple
of
reasons,
now
that
we
have
Workforce
as
a
requirement
for
graduation
and
there's
an
opportunity
for
students
working
to
earn
a
credit
for
employment
if
it
is
funded
in
a
way
where
it's
isolated
to
one
organization
or
one
entity
within
the
city
handling
it.
It
provides
us
with
an
opportunity
to
develop
some
of
the
positions
to
give
them
even
more
opportunities
to
learn
about
the
city
to
have
them,
create
Capstone
projects
and
things
of
that
nature.
C
And
we
are
going
to
work
on
that
over
the
next
six
months
coming
months,
so
that
it
can
be
organized
I'm,
not
saying
that
we're
going
to
take
away
the
East
Tampa
summer
youth
program,
but
to
house
them
to
get
together
under
one
umbrella
of
how
they
apply
and
how
we
develop
summer.
Youth
employment
programs,
so
that
we
can
share
it
with
the
entire
city
is
what
I'm
trying
to
do.
So.
That's
the
reason
behind
it.
C
I
remember
when,
when
it
was
presented
by
our
men's
CRA
manager,
Cedric
McRae,
he
indicated
during
the
presentation
that
you
know
he
had
not
time
had
not
had
time
to
spend
as
much
time
with
them
that
he
would
like,
because
he
has
other
responsibilities.
So
I
want
to
take
the
onus
off
of
that
and
to
streamline
this
process
where
we
can
determine
if
we
need
to
hire
temporary
staff.
Summer
Staff,
like
teachers
who
are
over
OJT
programs,
so
that
we
can
better
manage
that
and
let
CRA
do
the
job
that
they
are.
F
Discussion,
yes,
I!
If,
if
you
don't
mind,
I
would
love
to
have
them
come
back
next
month
and
explain
it
more
first,
just
because
you
know
having
having
spent
so
much
time
putting
this
program
together
last
year,
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
the
vision
that
I
had
for
it
is
realized
as
well.
So
could
we
actually
get?
Would
you
mind
having
someone
come
and
talk
to
us
about
it
and
then
vote
on
it
next
month?
I
mean
I,
I.
Think
it's
a
great
idea
in
principle.
C
Is
not
lost
on
me.
You
know
what
that
is
a
really
good
idea,
because
it
does
take
some
more
coordination
with
the
HR
department
as
well
as
well
as
talking
to
even
the
neighborhood
and
Community
Affairs
division.
C
But
the
goal
is
is
to
let's
make
cra
cra,
you
know
let
let
them
do
their
jobs
that
they,
because,
as
you
can
see,
they
have
a
lot
to
do
and
so
taking
the
Youth
Employment,
Program
and
and
allowing
all
of
our
staff
to
support
youth
programs
in
a
way
that
is
outlined
where
they
understand
it,
so
that
they
can
have
meaningful
time
to
spend
with
kids
for
a
particular
reason,
but
just
develop
our
summer
youth
program
so
that
it
can
benefit
not
just
East
Tampa,
but
even
our
students
all
over
you
know
Tampa
proper
yeah.
C
L
L
Is
that
second
amendment
or
strike?
That
is
the
amendment
to
the
motion?
Yes,
okayed
by
you,
councilman
Miranda?
Okay,
we
have
a
any
other
discussion.
Yeah,
yes,
sir,
go
ahead
so.
H
We're
trying
desperately
to
figure
out
how
to
get
money
out
of
the
CRA
system.
For
you
know,
and
are
we
shifting.
C
Are
we
shifting
no
I'm
glad
you
said
that
I'm
glad
you
said
that
because
I
don't
have
all
my
notes
in
front
of
me,
but
I
said
it
early
previously
in
a
comment
before
about
the
the
onus
of
us
as
the
city,
we
can't
do.
Everything
and
public-private
Partnerships
is
a
very
important
part
of
this.
There
are
organizations
just
based
on
who
I've
met
with
who
are
willing
to
help
fund
our
Employment
Program,
that's
part
of
it,
not
just
coming
from
the
general
fund.
H
B
If
I
can
interrupt
one
of
the
one
of
the
challenges
we
have
as
a
CRA
funding,
these
types
of
programs
is
that
we
have
to
tie
it
to
our
plan
right
physical
improvements,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
problems
on
the
complaints
of,
for
instance,
the
East
Tampa
summer
program.
Is
that
they're
picking
up
trash
in
these
Tampa?
Exactly
that
part
of
the
reason
why
they're
doing
that
is
that
you're
having
to
further
something
in
our
plan.
C
Remember
there
is
a
Community
member
from
East
Tampa
that
came
up
quite
a
bit
talking
about
that
she
even
referenced
the
students
is
slaves
at
one
point,
and
so
just
to
even
get
away
from
that.
There's
this
there's
a
lot
of
value
in
all
of
our
programs.
I
want
to
go
on
the
record
and
say
that
I
was
a
custodian,
my
first
job
with
the
city,
and
so
was
my
legislative
aide,
Darlene
Johnson.
We
both
were
custodians
and
look
where
we
are
now
so
I.
C
C
Sure
I
moved
at
the
I
move
that
all
youth
programs
funded
by
CRA,
be
looked
at
through
a
staff
report
for
us
to
determine
the
best
way
to
go
about
putting
them
under
our
neighborhood
and
Community
Affairs
program
for
management
and
public
private
partnership.
Funding
in.
L
L
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
just
okay,
well
I
thought
we
were
going
to
just
I
I,
especially
just
wanted
to
salute
all
of
our
staff,
including
obviously
Mr
Burton
God
bless
you
for
all
your
work
and
everybody,
but
everybody
I
mean
all
of
y'all
work
really
really
hard
and
I.
Just
today
was
a
really
long
meeting
that
I'm
making
longer
by
talking,
but
I
just
really
appreciate
you
all.
So
thank
you.
C
All
those
in
favor
opposed
motion
carries
and
motion
meeting
adjourned.