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The
coordinator
for
the
board
is
captain
patrick
mesmer.
Any
person
who
wishes
to
make
a
complaint
concerning
a
matter
may
be
considered
by
the
professional
standards
bureau
should
see
captain
mesmer
for
information
on
how
how
to
file
a
complaint.
The
board
should
not
discuss
matters
where
the
city
or
the
department
may
likely
be
a
party
in
litigation.
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We
will
now,
I
understand
that
we
are
blessed
with
the
presence
of
our
chief
select,
miss
mary
o'connor
is
here
tonight.
So
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
allow
her
to
address
the
board
and
continue
with
the
agenda
of
item
five
welcome
good.
F
So
I
just
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
number
one
to
come
and
introduce
myself
to
you.
Tell
you
a
little
bit
about
my
past,
my
history
here
at
the
tampa
police
department
and
then
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
what
I'd
like
to
do
in
the
future
moving
forward,
and
then
you
know,
take
a
few
questions.
I
have
a
citizen
event
that
I'm
supposed
to
be
at
in
about
30
minutes.
F
So
I'm
going
to
be
you
know
talking
to
you
like
again,
I
could
take
a
couple
of
questions,
but
then
I
have
to
go
to
another
event.
I'm
trying
to
do
my
best
to
get
out
into
the
community
as
much
as
I
can
right
now,
just
to
get
to
know
people.
I
think
that
there's
really
no
greater
way
to
get
to
know
someone
than
face-to-face
communication.
You
know
and
in
this
society
that
we've
been
in
for
the
last
couple
years
being
plagued
with
covid
and
going
to
you
know
virtual.
F
It's
just
there's
just
no
substitute
for
being
able
to
get
out
here
and
talk
to
you.
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
tonight.
I
am
a
retired
22-year
veteran
of
the
tampa
police
department.
I
started
working
here
in
january
of
1994..
F
I
was
one
of
26
people
that
were
hired
on
in
january
of
94
after
a
four-year
hiring
freeze
at
the
tampa
police
department.
So
a
lot
of
my
classmates
that
I
came
on
the
department
with
had
been
previously
laid
off
from
the
department
and
they
were
very
happy
to
come
back,
so
I
patrolled
the
streets
of
tampa
for
years
and
before
I
got
promoted
to
my
first
assignment
I
was
an
economic
crime
detective
for
many
many
years
and
and
then
I
started
to
work
my
way
through
the
ranks
sergeant
lieutenant
so
on
so
on.
F
I
submitted
my
paperwork
for
longevity
retirement
in
july.
I'm
sorry
in
may
of
2016.
I
had
served
just
over
22
years
at
that
point.
On
a
personal
note,
my
husband
keith
o'connor
and
I
met
at
the
department
we
raised.
Two
children
and
keith
stayed
working
for
the
department
when
I
went
home
to
kind
of
be
a
full-time
mom
for
a
while,
but
I
realized
very
quickly
after
being
there
for
a
couple
months
that
I
wasn't
done
with
this
profession.
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F
Specifically,
I've
worked
on
large
law
enforcement,
related
programs
with
department
of
justice,
and
I
taught
leadership
classes
for
an
organization
called
fbi
leda,
which
is
the
law
enforcement
executive
development
association.
So
I've
been
traveling
the
country
for
the
last
several
years,
engaging
with
and
speaking
to
law
enforcement
officers
nationwide.
F
So
I
am
proud
to
say
that
you
know
I
am
the
chief
select
of
the
the
greatest
police
department
in
the
nation
that
serves
the
greatest
community
in
the
nation,
so
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here
so
there's
three
things
that
I
would
like
to
do.
First
for
the
department
and
for
the
community
and
number
one
I
want
to
re-engage
community
engagement.
If
you
will,
what
does
that
mean
going
back
to
the
covet
era
of
zoom?
F
I
want
our
officers
to
go
out
and
serve
the
community
that
they
are
here
to
protect,
and
what
does
that
mean?
It
means
getting
out
of
the
car.
It
means
you
know
having
cell
phone
numbers,
it
means
having
instant
access
to
the
community
that
they
serve.
So
I
want
to
take
community
engagement
to
the
next
level.
F
I
also
want
to
reduce
violent
crime.
I
was
telling
you
about
some
of
the
doj
programs.
I've
worked
for.
I
worked
for
one
of
them
called
the
national
public
safety
partnership.
It's
psp
for
short,
the
national
public
safety
partnership
engages
and
sends
subject
matter
experts
by
doj
into
the
most
violent
cities
in
america
to
try
to
reduce
violent
crime.
I've
worked
with
memphis
tennessee
and
I've
worked
with
kansas
city
missouri
most
recently
and
I'm
you
know
very
proud
to
say
we
don't
have
problems
here
in
our
community,
like
some
of
those
larger
cities
do.
F
But
I
have
identified
some
initiatives
that
other
cities
do
to
try
to
reduce
violent
crime
and
one
of
them
is
engaging
social
services
more.
So
the
people
that
we
serve
we
come.
We
answer
the
call
for
service.
Maybe
we
arrest
the
suspect,
maybe
we
don't
it
doesn't
stop
there.
Domestic
violence,
victims
need
social
services.
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F
The
third
thing
that
I
want
to
bring
to
the
department
and
the
community
is
wellness
initiatives
and
wellness
programs.
I
think
going
back
to
what's
happened
in
the
last
couple
years:
civil
unrest.
Everyone
knows
the
events
that
have
gone
on
a
national
global
pandemic.
You
know
we
we're
a
damaged
society
and
I
think
that
you
know
going
back
to
having
a
healthy
workforce
is
going
to
a
is
tran
translate
to
serving
a
healthy
community.
I
think
that
the
relationship
building
can
really
can
really
work
well
with
with
good
wellness
initiatives.
F
I
want
to
do
like
mentorship
programs
for
my
officers,
but
I
also
again
want
to
have
a
healthy
workforce,
so
they
can
better
serve
the
community.
So
those
are
the
three
kinds
of
initiatives
that
I
I
want
to
do
again.
I
you
know
I'm
very
grateful
very
honored
and
very
blessed
to
be
back
with
the
finest
agency
in
the
nation
serving
the
best
community
in
the
nation.
So
I
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
address
you
tonight.
F
Let's
talk
a
little
bit
about,
you
know
what
I
believe
our
relationship
is
going
to
be.
I
think
that
you
know
any
recommendations
you
make
to
the
department
are
going
to
be
taken
with
wide
open
eyes
and
ears.
They
are
going
to
be
very
valued
because
we
going
back
to
relationship
building.
We
have
to
do
this
together.
We
have
to
make
sure
I
think
anyone
can
agree
that
there's
always
room
for
improvement
not
only
personally
but
professionally,
and
anything
that
you
guys
feel
tpd
can
do
better.
I
welcome
the
recommendations.
F
I
welcome
your
input
and
I'm
again
I'm
just
here
to
you
know
to
make
sure
that
this
process
works
smoothly
and
that
there
are,
you
know
everything
available
to
you
resource
wise,
that
you
have
from
the
tampa
police
department.
So
I
think
now
would
probably
be
a
good
time
to
open
it
up
to
a
few
questions.
If
you
guys
have
any
questions
comments,
anything
I
can
address
before
I
go
to
my
next
event
and
thank
you
for
your
service.
By
the
way
I
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
for
the
community.
F
G
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
coming
to
talk
to
us
because
we
sometimes
are
the
red-headed
stepchildren
and-
and
we
do
appreciate
when
you
show
up
and
the
officers
show
up-
and
you
know
this
is
taking
a
lot
of
time
off
of
their
schedules
when
they
do
come
appear
before
us,
and
we
do
appreciate
that
and
we
you
know
we
honor
the
fact
that
you
all
have
other
things
that
you'd
rather
be
doing
standing
in
front
of
us,
but
you
know
no,
everyone
has
always
been
and
I'm
sure
they
will
continue
to
be
supportive
of
us,
and
I
myself
am
very
supportive
of
the
police
department
and
I
think
that
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
job
that
people
don't
really
understand,
and
I
we
all
encourage
people
to
ride
alongs
and
get
more
involved.
G
F
F
You
know
unless
there
is
some
other
conflict,
but
I
you
know
you
you
you're
serving
this
community,
so
any
you
know
any
time
you
guys
have
any
questions
or
anything
I
can
do
to
you
know
beyond
the
work
of
this
board
as
well.
I
welcome
that,
because
I
am,
I
am
dedicated
to
making
sure
that
the
relationship
building
is
is
where
it
needs
to
be.
Thank.
E
Yes,
mr
wright,
again,
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
and
and
speaking
to
all
of
us
we're
all
public
servants
here,
as
you
know,
and
we're
all
volunteers,
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
just
a
couple
things
just
some
perspectives,
so
as
a
retired
military
veteran
from
from
mcdill
army
army
veteran.
Thank
you
for
your
service.
Thank
you.
One
of
the
reasons
why
I
did
this
as
well
as
other
community
service
initiatives
is
for
better
representation
of
our
veterans.
E
As
you
know,
hillsborough,
county
and
tampa
is
the
epicenter,
but
hillsborough
county
is
the
most
populated
veteran
county
of
67
counties
here
in
florida.
Yes,
sir
and
florida
is
number
three
in
the
nation
soon
to
be
number
two,
because
we
will
eclipse
texas.
So
as
a
result
of
that,
I
am
involved
in
the
veterans
treatment
court
here,
I
actually
helped
establish
it
with
judge
whis
when
I
retired
in
2013..
Yes,
I
mentioned
it
to
you
because
you
made
a
comment
about
trauma.
E
Yes,
and
that
is
central
to
one
of
the
many
reasons
why
many
of
our
veterans
get
in
trouble.
Yes,
because
of
service
or
combat
related
type
of
trauma.
Ptsd
traumatic,
brain
injury,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
so
I
was
very
encouraged
when
you
said
that
you
gave
me
hope,
because
I
do
believe
personally
that
problem-solving
courts
are
the
way
to
go,
and
I
know
that
we
can
partner
well,
as
we
do
with
hillsborough
county
sheriff's
office,
that
we
can
partner
well
with
the
tpd
in
in
combating
that
social
issue.
E
The
other
one-
and
I
know
you're
very
well
aware
of
that
many
of
us
are
also
involved
in-
is
the
whole
industry
of
human
trafficking.
Yes,
and
it's
it's
a
big
deal
here,
as
you
well
know,
and
and
just
to
let
you
know,
we're
excited
many
advocates
in
our
community
are
excited
to
work
with
you
and,
of
course,
with
the
police
force
in
fighting
that
yeah,
which
is
a
daily
fight
each
and
every
day.
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
with
you
and
just
like
and
encourage
you
and
congratulate
you
on
your
nomination.
F
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
I'm
very
happy
that
you
work
with
the
veterans
court.
The
veterans
court
was
a
newer
initiative
back
in
2016
when
I
was
leaving-
and
I
remember
just
you
know-
all
of
the
diversionary
programs,
if
there's
a
root
cause
that
we
can
address
like
going
back
to
the
social
services
rather
than
arrest
our
way
out
of
the
problem,
or
you
know
police
our
way
out
of
it.
F
I
think
that
that's
where
we
all
you
know
we
can
do
a
great
things
together
and-
and
I'm
you
know,
obviously,
the
traumas
that
you
speak
of
that
are
that
our
veterans
have
been
through
are
a
lot
of
our
police
officers
have
been
through
that
those
as
well
I'm
very
dedicated
to
wellness
programs.
F
I've
been
around
the
country
the
last
few
years,
and
I
see
that
police
officers
suffer
from
ptsd.
I
mean
they
respond
to
calls
and
they
see
things
that
a
normal
citizen
does
not
see.
You
know
and
that's
it.
You
know.
We
think
that
we
just
put
our
badge
on,
and
we
have
you
know
our
cape
on
and
we
come
and
save
the
day,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
we
take
those
things
home
with
us
and
we
live
with
them
for
the
rest
of
our
lives
and
very
similar
to
your
veterans
court.
F
A
All
right
good
evening,
good
evening,
thank
you
again
for
coming
now
to
speak
to
us
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
or
the
candidate
that
will
be
coming
in
in
chief
of
the
police
department.
Definitely
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
you're
being
out
in
the
community
being
engaging
with
with
community
members,
that's
a
huge
component
to
the
work
that
we
do.
Building
that
trust
within
the
department
and
the
community.
As
we
all
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
stories
in
the
media
regarding
the
process,
transparency
or
whatnot.
A
So
thank
you
for
taking
that
step
in
in
being
out
in
the
community
sure
you
did
say
that
one
of
your
parties
was
the
violent,
reducing
violent
crimes.
I
know
assistant
chief
delgado
had
a
priority
for
gun
violence,
so
I
would
like
to
see
if,
under
that
priority,
you
can
also
tackle
more
so
gun
violence.
Last
year
we
ended
the
year
with
over
hundreds
of
ish
incidents
related
to
guns.
A
So
definitely
you
know
if
we
can
make
that
as
priority
or
continue
that
momentum
with
the
community
forums
that
chief
legato
was
having,
not
more
so
having
those
discussions
and
just
ending
there,
but
more
so
having
action
towards
what's
coming
out
of
those
discussion
is
key
so,
like
I
said
looking
forward
to
working
with
you
and
thank
you
thank.
F
You,
mr
valdez
gun
violence
is
everyone's
number
one
priority.
You
know
I
was
just
speaking
to
a
an
association
about
an
hour
ago,
and
you
know
I
remember
the
days
of
going
to
neighborhood
watch
association
meetings
and
welcoming
that
they
were
complaining
about
littering
or
barking
dogs,
or
you
know
or
trespassing.
F
Now
everyone
is
zeroed
in
on
the
gun.
Violence.
F
The
community
for
chief
delgado
is
a
very
valued
member
of
the
team
of
the
tampa
police
department
and
he
did
great
things
when
he
started
up
those
community
forums,
because
the
community
needs
to
have
a
voice
at
the
table.
You
know
they.
They
have
to
have
a
voice
at
the
table
in
order
for
us
to
come
up
with
the
proper
solutions
to
address
that
the
community,
but
the
forums
are
a
good
start,
but
I
believe
the
dialogue
needs
to
keep
continue
well,
above
and
beyond
the
forums
we
are
actually
having
our
third
forum.
F
I
believe
this
upcoming
week.
I
want
to
say
just
stand
by
on
that.
Don't
quote
me
on
the
date,
but
I
believe
it's
coming
up
very
very
soon.
You
know
we
need
to
have
those
forums,
maybe
quarterly
you
know,
and
we
also
need
to
get
more
people
to
the
forums.
I
I
think
you
know
I
I
I
don't
shy
away
and
none
of
the
officers
do
from
speaking
to
hundreds
of
people
at
once
I
mean
the
more
people
we
can
reach
the
better.
F
We
have
to
engage
the
community,
the
way
that
they
get
information.
The
forums
are
good
face-to-face
communication,
but
we
also
have
to
talk
about
initiatives.
The
tampa
police
department
is
doing
via
social
media
and
you
know
and
press
conferences
and
ways
to
get
out
there,
and
it
needs
to
be
a
message
that
every
member
of
the
department
shares.
So
if
our
message
is
that
we're
going
to
have
you
know
an
initiative
to
reduce
gun
violence,
everyone
needs
to
buy
into
that,
and
everyone
needs
to
have
the
same
message.
F
The
last
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
with
gun
violence
is
my
first
meeting
this
morning
was
with
state
attorney
andrew
warren,
and
we
had
a
delightful
conversation
this
morning
and
our
number
one
priority
working
together.
Moving
forward
is
gun
violence,
because
when,
when
there's
when
there's
you
know
gun
violence
happening,
everything
else
just
doesn't
seem
as
important,
because
you
know
safety
is
is
priority.
H
Reverend
banks-
yes,
thank
you
chief
o'connor,
for
coming
out
to
share
with
us
one
thing:
you
said
that
really
pricked
my
attention
and
we
talked
about
partnering
with
social
services.
F
F
F
Yes,
kansas
city
missouri,
does
it
very
very
well?
It's
you
know
you
have
to
first
you
have
to
identify
what
services
are
out
there
and
deconflict,
whether
or
not
there's
any
overlap
or
and
what
the
overlap
is
also
going
to
identify
are
the
gaps.
So
now
we
need
to
figure
out
who
we
can
bring
to
the
table
to
fill
the
gaps,
but
I
I
really
am
a
firm
believer
that
long
after
the
police
are
gone
and
they've
done
their
job,
that
there
is
more
follow-up.
F
Post,
police
involvement,
the
better
off
we're
all
going
to
be,
and
it
helps
build
trust
in
the
police
department
as
well.
You
know
I
mean
you
know
we.
We
really
need
to
have
the
community
trust
us
and
feel
that
they
can
call
us
and
they
feel
that
they
that
we're
going
to
come
and
help
them
and
part
of
the
trust
building
is
having
that
nurturing
relationship
with
the
community
and
partnering
with
social
services.
So
I
might
pick
your
brain
on
that
at
some
point,
if
you
don't
mind,
okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you,
sir.
B
Yes,
so
again,
thank
you
for
coming
out
tonight
and
blessing
us
with
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
engage.
I
think
the
three-step
initiative
is
a
great
starter
plan
and
as
well
as
getting
out
into
the
community
and
getting
more
engaged
in
forms
of
things
of
that
nature.
We
have
adopted
in
our
new
audience,
going
out
to
the
community,
doing
some
forums
and
maybe
even
having
some
of
our
monthly
meetings
out
in
the
community.
So,
oh.
G
A
So,
with
like
last
night,
a
remember
reyes
and
myself
attended
the
black
history
month.
Event
that
you
all
put
on
so
definitely,
if
there's
any
events
that
you're
going
attending
that
you
would
like
any
of
the
members
to
participate
and
attend
with
the
department.
Please
keep
us
in
the
loop,
as
we
you
know,
take
the
community
to
our
heart
and
would
like
to
be
president
as
well
out
there.
I.
F
Would
very
welcome
your
presence
at
our
events.
I
think
that's
a
really
good
way
to
kind
of
bridge
that
you
know
the
the
roles
and
and
and
and
just
really
get
to
know
each
other,
because
the
more
you
know
about
the
tampa
police
department
and
the
fine
work
that
they
do,
the
less
questions
there's
going
to
be
you
know
so
there
there
is
there's
going
to
be
a
I'm
going
to
take
you
up
on
that.
So
so
I
hope
you
guys
are
ready.
It's
going
to
be
a
packed
calendar.
B
B
If
you
will,
we
will
continue
with
the
agenda
under
item
number.
Five
public
comment:
are
there
any
participants
signed
in
for
the
public
comment
portion
of
this
meeting.
B
B
Green,
so
if
you
will
state
your
name
and
your
address
and
please
limit
your
comments
to
three
minutes,
go
ahead
and
continue.
C
Okay,
thank
you.
I'm
laurie
jones,
salukou
9713
pleasant
oak
drive
in
tampa,
I'm
from
bible-based
fellowship
church,
a
member
congregation
of
hope,
the
hillsborough
organization
for
progress
and
equality
over
the
past
several
years.
We've
heard
story
after
story
from
our
hope,
members
and
their
their
family
about
being
stopped.
C
One
story:
I
worry
about
racial
profiling.
I
have
been
stopped
and
threatened
with
the
rest
while
walking
in
my
own
neighborhood,
another
member.
My
husband
was
stopped
because
he
stopped
after
the
white
line
at
the
stop
sign.
They
pulled
him
out
and
laid
him
on
the
ground
while
they
searched
his
car
at
another
membership.
My
grandson
was
parked
outside
of
his
house.
The
cops
pulled
up
and
made
him
get
out
of
out.
While
they
searched
his
car.
C
C
C
Another
story
I
got
stopped
by
police
because
he
stayed
stated.
I
looked
suspicious.
Driving
at
night
searched
my
car
and
I
felt
it
was
racial
profiling.
Another
woman
shared
this
story.
Her
husband,
who's
african-american,
has
been
pulled
over
many
times
in
tampa,
even
though
he's
never
had
a
ticket
or
anything.
C
He
always
calls
her
when
he
gets
pulled
over
in
case
anything
happened.
We
would
like
to
see
the
tpd
along
with
hillsborough
county
sheriff's
office,
began
tracking
and
analyzing,
and
communicating
data
on
all
traffic
stops
in
order
to
address
systemic
and
individual
bias
in
policing
to
help
build
trust
among
law
enforcement
and
the
community.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
J
J
This
level
of
transparency
goes
a
long
way
towards
building
faith
and
trust
with
the
community,
as
chief
designate
o'connor
just
spoke
toward
spoke
about,
and,
and
we
urge
tpd
and
the
citizens
review
board,
to
sustain
this
commitment
to
providing
openness,
transparency
and
accountability.
J
J
For
instance,
there
is
no
zip
code
level
data
provided
to
us,
the
public,
which
makes
it
very
difficult
for
us
to
evaluate
the
issue
of
racial
profiling
and
the
data
that
we
see.
In
fact,
as
on
the
elbow
shows,
57
of
the
stops
made
over
the
last
13
months
are
among
blacks,
much
higher
representation
than
in
the
general
population.
J
His
presentation
was
heard
by
the
state
attorney
the
public
defender,
the
clerk
of
court
temple,
terrorist
police
chief
and
the
plant
city
police
chief.
Unfortunately,
tpd
chief
dugan
did
not
intend
in
person.
Although
tpd
was
represented,
we
would
urge
new
police
chief
designate
o'connor
to
attend
our
meetings
and
address
this
issue.
J
Personally,
we
would
also
like
to
meet
with
mayor
caster
directly
so
far.
She
has
declined
our
meeting
requests
and
we
would
urge
her
to
reconsider
this
position.
We
believe
it
is
appropriate,
indeed
essential
for
elected
officials
to
meet
with
leaders
in
the
community
and
to
hear
the
concerns
of
our
25
member
churches
and
their
congregations.
J
B
I
will
now
ask
whether
there
were
any
recorded
comments
received
through
the
voicemail
set
up
for
this
meeting.
G
In
reference
to
the
public
comment
comments
tonight,
I
would
be
interested
in
seeing
how
tpd
does
track
the
stops
and
if
there
are
reports
made
on
stops,
even
when
there
are
no,
no,
if
there's
no
ticketing
done
and
if
they
have
a
way
to
verify
the
information,
because
I
you
know
listening
to
the
public
comment
it
does,
it
does
make
you
think
that
you
know
there.
G
A
And
I
will
second
that
I
would
like
to
see
if
we
get
a
presentation
from
either
somebody
in
in
data
or
research
to
be
able
to
come
talk
to
us
and
present
to
us
into
the
community.
How
is
it
that
the
data
is
tracked
and
and
the
dashboard
that's
online?
I've
been
in
on
there
a
few
times
and,
and
you
can
see
certain
things,
but
certain
things
isn't
clear
and
transparent.
A
So
definitely
if
we
can
have
some
sort
of
presentation
that
talks
of
data
I
know,
last
month,
chief
delgado
brought
a
point
of
the
article
that
I
had
brought
up
to
the
attention
that
there
is.
You
know,
data,
that's
not
that's
not
being
reflected
accurate
per
se,
as
it
reflects
the
community
members
that
are
reflecting.
There
was
an
article
that
came
out
on
creativeload
thing
that
I
referenced
last
month.
So
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
somebody
to
present
to
us
as
it
relates
to
data,
as
it
relates
to
the
department.
B
Racial
profiling
has
been
a
long
going
concern
in
the
community,
and
if
this
data
is
being
collected,
the
proof
is
in
the
numbers,
at
least
from
the
data
will
be
able
to.
It
should
reflect
future
training
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
if
the
data
is
being
collected,
I
think
that's
the
main
purpose
of
the
data,
so
I
will
also
be
interested
in
finding
out
more
about
that
process
and
how
that
data
has
been
collected.
And
what
can
we
identify
from
that
kind
of
material?
B
Thank
you
for
those
who
did
show
up
for
public
comment
and
bringing
that
very
concerning
issue
long-lasting
issue
to
to
the
board,
thinking
that
it's
something
that
seems
like
board
members
have
interest
in
as
well
and
may
be
interested
in
looking
into
that
further
any
other
comments
or
statements
or
questions
in
reference
to
item
six.
H
There
is
a
perception
in
the
community
that
the
profiling
does
exist,
so,
in
addition
to
perhaps
looking
at
the
data
that
may
or
may
not
further
solidify
that
that
perception,
perhaps
staff
could
look
at
some
best
practices
that
the
training
or
whatever
is
available,
so
that
we
can
counteract
the
perception,
as
well
as
the
reality
what's
out
there.
That
can
help
to
minimize
profiling
in
terms
of
training
and
biases.
That
may
exist
in
the
minds
of
those
who
are
on
the
force.
I
I'm
sorry,
yes,
you
will
mike
schmidt
schmidt,
just
to
to
give
staff
a
chance
to
comment
on
that
on
the
public
comments
with
regards
to
hope,
tpd
has
met
with
hope.
In
fact,
I
believe
it
was
just
last
month,
maybe
two
months
ago,
that
chief
delgado
did
participate
in
a
meeting
with
hope.
I
was
also
present.
There
was
approximately
four
or
five
tpd
people
on
a
conference
call
with
hope,
so
the
chief
has
met
with
hope
even
recently
and
has
had
an
ongoing
dialogue
with
hope.
I
So
it's
I
just
want
to
let
clear
up
something
that,
while
he
mentioned
dugan
wasn't
available
to
call.
I
also
know
that
dugan
had
a
conflict
and
it
advised
them
of
that
conflict.
I
was
on
that
call
a
way
back
when
hope
had
their
other
meeting,
so
tpd
does
participate
and
the
chief
chief
delgado
was
on
a
recent
call
with
hope
just
very
recently,
so
I
want
to
clarify
clear
that
up.
I
The
next
thing
I
would
like
to
clear
up
is
with
regards
to
all
traffic
stops
or
tpd
will
be
happy
to
bring
back
a
policy
when
it's
finalized.
There
is
a
policy
that's
currently
in
draft,
so
I
don't
want
to
comment
on
it
tonight
in
detail,
but
I'll
let
you
know
there
is
there
has
been
a
for.
You
know
these
policies
take
a
while,
sometimes
to
to
fully
draft.
I
So
we've
been
working
on
a
policy
for
months
that
will
try
to
capture
the
data
for
traffic
stops,
so
that
is
something
that
tpd's
already
been
working
on
and
will
continue
to
work
on,
and
hopefully
here
in
the
very
near
future,
we'll
have
a
policy
that
we
can
present
to
you
and
explain
how
tpd
is
capturing
the
traffic
stop
data.
That
has
been
something
that
chief
delgado
several
several
months
ago
was
working
on
and
we've
heard
those
concerns
from
hope,
and
I
know
that
that
is
something
the
department
continues
to
work
on.
B
Thank
you,
that's
good
to
hear
that
the
department
is
aware
of
that
concern
and
does
have
a
plan
to
identify
if
or
if
not,
that
issue
has
been
affected
in
our
community.
So
yes,
if
you
will,
please
definitely
follow
up
with
us
in
reference
to
that
policy.
Once
it
has
been
drafted.
K
Sure
enough,
mr
chair
captain,
pat
messner
tpd
as
well,
and
just
to
follow
up
on
reverend
banks
comments.
Obviously
following
best
practices
and
providing
training
and
guidance
to
the
officers
in
terms
of
bias-based,
policing
and
racial
profiling
is
extremely
important,
and
I
can
bring
you
some
some
more
details.
If
that's
the
board's
pleasure,
but
just
to
give
you
a
little
update,
we
we
do
have
bias-based
profiling
training
pretty
much
on
an
annual
basis.
K
We've
had
training
on
fair
and
impartial
policing.
That
was
a
implicit
bias
training
as
well.
That
was
really
spearheaded
by
dr
fredel
from
the
uss
criminal
criminology
department.
In
addition
to
that,
last
year,
the
entire
department
went
through
a
one-day
training
of
a
cohort
training
that
was
basically
a
biased
based
policing
training
that
was
put
on
by
an
outside
instructor
that
the
department
actually
brought
down
here
to
train
the
entire
department
on
diversity,
equity
and
inclusion,
and
the
importance
of
of
not
engaging
in
any
kind
of
bias-based
activity.
K
So
we
are
aware
of
a
lot
of
the
best
practices.
I
know
a
lot
of
us
are
members.
I'm
a
member
of
the
international
association
of
chiefs
of
police,
the
police
executive
research
forum.
We
are
always
following
their
best
practices
for
specifics
about
what
kind
of
a
training
we
can
give
our
officers
to
address
those
community
concerns
of
racial
bias
and
racial
profiling.
So
we're
always
looking
for
for
new
ways
to
train
our
officers
and
and
make
sure
that
they're
always
aware
that
that
is
an
issue
in
the
community's
mind.
So
that's
definitely
not
something.
K
That's
lost
on
us.
The
the
importance
of
making
sure
our
officers
are
aware
of
of
the
the
issues
with
any
kind
of
bias
based
profiling.
B
Well
now
continue
with
the
agenda
agenda.
Excuse
me
moving
on
to
rumor
number
seven
approval
of
the
modified
rules
of
procedure
board
members
were
provided
a
copy
of
the
modified
rules
of
procedures.
During
the
presentation
presented
by
mr
kamaria
upon
last
month
january
meeting
such
board
members
wanted
to
table
the
actual
adoption
of
those
rules
of
procedures
that
those
members
aren't
present
here
tonight.
B
So
I
will
move
to
table
this
particular
item
to
next
month
to
allow
individuals
to
continue
to
review
that
material
and
be
present
to
share
with
us
anything
that
they're
concerned
with
as
well.
I
know
this
miss
guy
may
need
a
copy
as
as
well
so
we
could
all
be
on
the
same
page.
D
If
I
could
just
kamari
pedestal
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
if
I
could,
please
just
have
a
motion
from
the
board
to
continue
the
approval
of
the
rules
of
procedure
to
the
next
crb
citizens
review
board
meeting.
Please.
F
B
Guy
has
made
the
motion
to
table
item
seven
approval
the
modified
rules
of
procedure.
Mr
valdez
has
second
the
motion
any
further
discussion.
Yes,.
H
So
if
we
adopt
the
rules
without
having
a
full
cadre
of
people
on
the
board,
would
that
prohibit
us
from
taking
care
of
business
in
the
future?.
H
D
The
city
attorney's
office
and
I
appreciate
the
motion
and
I
don't
know
if
the
board
has
voted
on
the
motion.
Has
there
been
a
vote
on
the
motion
to
continue
it.
D
It
was
just
a
second
okay.
I
will
answer
those
questions
when
we're
actually
discussing
the
rules
of
procedure,
if
they're
it
at
that
time.
At
the
next
meeting,
I
will
answer
those
questions.
Oh.
B
Okay,
so
there
is
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
table
this
item
to
the
next
month's
meeting.
All
those
in
favor
please
show
by
raise
of
hand
any
opposed.
Please
show
by
raise
your
hand,
item
number
six
that
the
motion
passes.
Item
number.
Seven:
approval
of
the
modified
rules
of
procedures
has
been
tabled
to
next
month's
meeting.
L
Good
evening,
david
fernandez,
I'm
a
captain
with
tampa
police
department,
so
basically
I'm
district
one
that
is
everything
west
of
the
river
from
hillsboro
all
the
way
south
to
mcdill
air
force
base.
Before
I
go
into
the
case
summation
I
want
to
let
you
know
that
this
wasn't
a
complaint
that
was
generated
from
a
citizen
or
outside
the
police
department.
It
was
an
internal
complaint
that
my
district
in
latent
investigation
sergeant
brought
to
me,
is
when
an
officer
writes
a
police
report.
If
they
don't
make
an
arrest,
it
gets
referred
to
the
detective.
L
So
the
detective
saw
this
report
brought
it
to
the
sergeant's
attention
and
then
brought
it
to
me
that
there
were
some
things
that
were
missed
so
I'll
go
into
it.
On
april,
2nd
2021
officer,
george
boyd
and
officer
christopher
vicelli,
responded
to
3014
west
bruce
street
reference.
An
assault
battery
that
had
just
occurred
officer,
bucelli,
arrived
first
and
came
in
contact
with
both
victims
officer
vicelli
then
separates
the
two
victims
and
begins
to
interview
victim
brown.
Shortly
thereafter
officer
boyd
arrived
and
conducts
an
interview
with
clifford.
L
At
that
point
officer,
boyd
failed
to
turn
on
his
body-worn
camera
and
the
victim's
interview
was
not
recorded
victim.
Clifford
officer
boyd
then
records
a
second
interview
with
clifford,
while
he
is
seated
in
his
vehicle.
In
this
interview
it
appears
he's
attempting
to
gain
cooperation
with
her,
not
going
forward
of
her
being
raped
for
the
sexual
battery
that
she
told
him
of
officer.
Boyd
generates
a
report
for
the
aggravated
battery
simple
battery
and
then,
like
I
told
you,
the
report
was
submitted
to
the
district
leighton
investigation
squad
for
their
review.
L
In
this
case,
there
were
three
body-worn
camera
videos
under
this
report,
two
with
officer
boyd
and
one
with
officer
bocelli
during
the
review.
My
review
of
officer,
boy's
videos
victim
clifford,
discloses
that
she
had
been
raped
by
the
suspect
during
this
encounter
and
uses
that
term
also
when
she
fills
out
her
sworn
statement
so
that
night,
when
they
interviewed
her,
they
also
had
her
do
a
sworn
statement
written
that
is
also
part
of
the
police
report.
In
that
sworn
statement,
she
states
I
did
not
hook
up
with
him.
L
L
The
suspect
then
orders
brown
to
leave
pointing
a
gun
at
him
and
the
suspect
states
that
she's
not
going
anywhere
victim
brown
leaves
and
victim
clifford
is
then
sexually
battered.
Shortly
thereafter,
an
unknown
suspect
comes
in
the
residence
and
also
requests
sexual
favors
from
victim
clifford.
When
she
denies
his
advances,
he
then
punches
her
in
the
face
with
a
closed
fist
and
she
gets
a
bloody
nose.
So
the
appropriate
charges
for
this
report
should
have
included
armed
occupied
burglary,
false
imprisonment,
armed
sexual
battery
aggravated
assault
and
simple
battery
officer.
L
Boyd
failed
to
disclose
to
a
supervisor's,
pertinent
information
about
the
incident
and,
most
importantly,
failed
to
disclose
the
sexual
battery
to
his
his
sergeant.
Also,
his
police
report
documenting
the
incident
failed
to
contain
an
accurate
representation
of
the
events
and
how
they
unfolded.
That
evening
after
I
reviewed
the
case
that
ia
did
in
my
disposition,
I
I
put
in
officer
boyd
did
not
actually
document
the
events
as
they
were
conveyed
to
him.
The
sexual
battery
was
completely
dismissed
by
officer
ward
by
officer
boyd.
L
It
appears
that
he
only
recorded
his
attempts
to
gain
her
cooperation
and
not
going
forward
with
the
sexual
battery.
He
documents
that
she
had
sex
with
him,
which
is
a
gross
mischaracterization
of
the
facts.
Victim
clifford
was
never
offered
offered
services
at
the
nurse
examiner's
office.
The
scene
was
never
processed,
no
dna,
no
fingerprints,
no
photographs,
nor
was
the
condom
ever
collected.
Even
if
the
victim
is
not
inclined
inclined
to
pursue
criminal
charges.
A
L
It's
a
letter
of
counseling
that
stays
in
his
jacket.
For
a
year
we
looked
our
staff
looked
at
his
previous
discipline
and
I
believe,
if
I'm
not
corrected,
if
captain
messner
wants
to
speak
about
it,
I
believe,
seven
to
eight
years
ago.
The
only
thing
he
had
was
a
failure
to
go
to
an
off-duty
job
or
failure
to
go
to
court.
That
was
the
only
thing
that
was
in
his
record.
L
A
I
do
have
a
huge
concern
being
the
fact
that
there
was
multiple
different
instances
where
it
could
have
been
offenses
such
as
the
the
sexual
harassment.
You
know
there
was.
There
was
multiple
different,
the
burglary
things
in
this
case.
It's
not
just
more
silver
traffic.
Stop
that,
oh,
I
forgot
to
turn
on
the
camera,
so
I'm
really
concerned
as
to
how
the
case
was
taking
into
consideration
and
the
disciplinary
action
for
this
particular
officer.
H
I
must
admit
that
when
I
read
this,
I
had
to
stop
and
take
a
deep
breath
did
I
it
was
brought
to
me
first
of
all
being
familiar
with
tampa.
I
I
I'm
not.
L
H
H
Have
to
take
a
deep
breath
so
even
handling
this
case.
With
a
letter
of
reprimand,
I
mean
a
letter
of
counseling
as
opposed
to
to
some
serious.
I
mean
it
just
seems
to
me
on
the
surface,
without
knowing
all
of
the
details
that
the
officer
did
not
take
in
as
serious
as
it
was
and
and
the
department
didn't
take
it
as
serious
as
it
was
well.
L
H
B
I
understand
okay
yeah.
Yes,
I
have
an
additional
question
as
well
in
a
situation
like
this,
I'm
not
sure
how
the
call
got
dispatched
in,
but
in
in
the
case
where
there's
sexual
violations
being
done.
What's
the
policy
or
what's
the,
why
wasn't
that
a
woman
officer
on
the
scene
and
things
of
that
nature?
Is
there
some
type
of
policy
or
a
protocol
with
a
particular
case
of
this
nature?
K
You
know
captain
mess
with
professional
standards
there.
There
are
situations
where
a
victim
may
request
that,
and-
and
if
that
is
requested,
we
will
try
our
best
to
accommodate
that
there's,
not
a
policy
that
says
if
a
victim
reports
a
sexual
battery,
that
it
must
be
an
officer
of
the
same
gender
who's
dispatched
and
just
to
give
a
little
bit
more
background
on
this
case
this.
This
call
this
is
a
kind
of
a
convoluted
case.
K
There
was
no
mention
of
any
sexual
battery
when
the
caller
called
the
caller
actually
called,
because
somebody
went
into
their
house
with
armed
with
a
firearm.
So
the
comments
about
a
sexual
battery
were
never
conveyed
to
the
dispatcher
when
the
call
was
dispatched,
it
was
after
the
officers
got
there
and
the
call
was
investigated
that
it
actually
came
out
what
was
being
alleged
and
some
of
the
issues.
I
think
that
that
involve
the
letter
of
counseling.
K
You
know
we
do
have
a
a
policy
and
we're
governed
by
contract
to
to
use
progressive
discipline.
This
officer
hadn't
received
any
discipline
since
2007.
we've.
Actually,
when
we
looked
at
the
discipline
for
failure
to
write
reports,
the
the
normal
discipline
for
that
is
a
letter
of
counseling,
especially
in
the
absence
of
a
disciplinary
history
of
the
officer
and,
like
captain
fernandez,
said
this,
this
case
was
actually
brought
to
the
attention
of
the
department
by
the
detective
who
got
to
sign
the
case.
K
When
the
case
was
referred
to
a
detective,
the
victim
was
was
not
cooperative
with
the
detective
about
following
through
with
any
charges.
The
victim
was
not
cooperative
with
the
internal
affairs
investigator
with
trying
to
give
a
trying
to
give
a
statement
about
what
happened
in
the
actions
of
the
officer.
So,
unfortunately,
the
only
reason
that
we
even
had
this
case
is
because
it
was
brought
forth
internally
now
had
the
victim
been
more
forceful
and,
in
you
know,
pursuing
the
officer's
misconduct.
K
You
know
the
the
command
staff
at
the
time
may
have
done
a
lot
more
than
a
letter
of
counseling.
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
because
that's
not
what
happened,
but
the
victim.
You
know
in
the
case
wasn't
interested
in
pursuing
the
charges
that
even
she
initially
said
she
was
interested
in.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
that
that
played
a
role
in
it
or
not.
I
think
it
probably
did
so.
That's
just
an
example
of
kind
of
one
of
the
one
of
the
many
facets
around
this
case.
K
This
was
a
complicated,
convoluted
scene
when
you
read
the
police
report
and
when
you
watch
the
body
camera
video
about
things
that
happen
and
things
that
happen
in
the
future
and
consensual
sex
the
day
before,
but
no
consensual
sex
then,
but
there
was
actually
consensual
sex
several
days
afterwards.
K
So
I
there
was
just
a
lot
of
confusion
with
the
case.
It
wasn't
a
a
straightforward
accusation
of
sexual
battery.
It
still
should
have
been
treated
that
way,
because
all
sexual
battery
cases
need
to
be
treated
that
way,
because
a
victim
may
decide
at
the
time
that
they
don't
want
to
prosecute.
They
don't
want
to
file
any
charges,
but
they
could
change
their
mind
in
a
couple
days.
That's
why
it's
important
to
collect
the
evidence.
That's
why
it's
important
to
offer
the
victim
an
exam
with
the
nurse
examiner.
K
K
About
specifically
what
was
said
when
the
body
camera
was
off,
because
we
really
don't
know
that
we
didn't
get
the
victim
side
of
the
story
of
what
was
said
when
the
body
camera
was
off,
the
investigation
could
have
gone
in
a
whole
different
direction,
depending
on
what
the
victim
said
happened
during
that
conversation,
but
multiple
times
to
try
to
get
in
contact
with
the
victim
by
both
the
assigned
criminal
investigator
and
the
assigned
internal
affairs
investigator,
and
did
not
express
any
interest
in
in
providing
a
statement
to
us.
So.
B
To
give
you
a
little
background,
I
I
do
want
to
applaud
and
acknowledge
the
check
and
balance
that
this
particular
case
came
through
an
internal
complaint,
so
that
definitely
recognizes
there
is
a
check
and
balance
a
system
in
play.
B
I
selected
this
particular
case
to
continue
the
monitoring
progress
of
the
bwc's
and
the
underlying
importance
of
such
technology.
As
you
mentioned
earlier
in
the
statement,
there
was
footage
but
would
have
had
additional
information
into
the
investigation,
but
it
was
absent
so
as
we
continue
to
monitor
the
process
and
progress
of
the
bwc's.
B
It
shows
the
importance
of
having
that
type
of
technology,
so
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
selected
this
particular
case
in
a
case
of
this
magnitude
with
sexual
assault.
In
my
opinion,
it
has
to
be
handled
with
extreme
care.
B
Was
there
any
other
follower?
I
know
you
all
stated
after
the
investigation,
the
victim
didn't
seem
to
be
cooperative,
but
at
that
time
frame
what
type
of
personnel
did
we
send
to
follow
up
with
that
particular
victim,
because
there's
cases
with
with
domestic
violence
and
things
of
that
nature,
there's
a
fear
factor.
There
was
been
held
at
gunpoint,
we're
not
sure
there
was.
You
know
other
intimidations
or
or
uncomfortable
uncomfortability
there.
B
So
knowing
what
we
knew
in
reference
to
that
particular
case
and
the
follow-up
plan,
what
type
of
personnel
did
we
send
out
there
to
talk
with
this
particular
victim
to
see
why
this
case
wasn't
what
she
didn't
prosecute.
K
So
there
were
actually
it
was
referred
to
the
district
one
late
investigative
squad,
which
is
the
district
one
detective
squad.
The
detective
who
was
assigned
the
case
is
a
female
detective
who
actually
used
to
be
a
sex
crimes
detective
for
quite
some
time,
so
her
and
her
partner,
who
was
another
female
detective?
K
They
were
the
ones
who
went
out
to
to
try
to
talk
to
the
victim
to
gain
the
victim's
cooperation
and
they
were
just
unsuccessful
in
doing
so,
and
then
on
a
separate
note,
our
internal
affairs
detective
on
another
occasion
on
several
other
occasions,
tried
to
do
the
same
thing
in
regards
to
the
internal
affairs
investigation,
not
necessarily
the
the
actual
allegations
of
the
the
sexual
battery.
But
we
we
had
female
detectives
who
are
experienced
actually
in
that
realm,
who
were
able
to
be
assigned
that
case
to
try
to
make
contact
with
the
victim.
B
Thank
you.
I
have
to
agree
with
mr
valdez
and
and
reverend
banks
in
reference
to
officer
boyd
jeopardizing
the
integrity
of
the
department.
It
seemed
like
in
this
in
this
particular
case,
in
my
opinion
as
well,
there
was
a
lack
of
concern,
a
lack
of
empathy
which
could
result
in
distrust
so
we'll
continue
with
any
any
further
questions
or
or
statements.
G
K
L
K
G
A
A
I
have
a
significant
problem
with
that
because
again
where,
even
though
the
victim
didn't
want
to
press
charges
or
wasn't
cooperating
just
knowing
that
this
could
have
been
a
case,
it's
it's
critical
and
and
again
going
back
to
the
integrity
of
the
department
and
how
we're
doing
business
is
a
concern
for
me,
as
particularly
with
this
case.
So
I
get
the
progressive
discipline,
but
this
is
something
that
that
should
have
been
taken.
You
know
escalated
more
than
just
a
a
a
letter
of
counseling.
B
So
the
chair
is
open
to
a
motion
on
whether
we
concur
or
not
concur
or
unable
to
reach
determination
regarding
the
disposition
and
the
the
the
disposition
of
the
complaint
and
the
discipline.
G
I
just
have
one
one
comment.
I
think
the
regulations
that
were
violated,
as
as
as
in
the
letter
states,
were
probably
the
reason
that
the
discipline
was
carried
out
as
it
was
because
these
two
regulations
that
were
not
followed.
G
K
K
Those
cases
have
been
much
more
serious
because
they've
taken
somebody's
property
and
they've
disposed
of
it
and
didn't
document
it.
So
it
it
kind
of
does
depend
on
the
individual
circumstances,
and
I
would
agree
with
the
board
that
the
not
handling
a
sexual
battery
investigation
properly
is
a
is
a
serious,
serious
issue.
K
I
think
again
had
had
when
we've
been
able
to
interview
a
cooperating
victim
and
heard
what
was
said
by
the
officer
during
that
time,
the
body
war
camera
was
off.
You
know,
there's
a
very
good
chance.
It
could
have
gone
in
a
different
direction
if,
if
she
had
said
that
the
officer
was
talking
her
out
of
making
the
report
or
saying
you
don't
really
want
to
do
this
or
really
doing
something
along
those
lines
to
where
she
he's
trying
to
influence
her.
K
You
know
there
there
could
have
been
a
more
severe
discipline
imposed
here,
so
it
kind
of
does
depend
on
on
this
severity
of
the
case
that
wasn't,
documented
or
or
attentiveness
to
duty
is
a
catch-all
in
in
one
way
it
could
mean
you
didn't
put
somebody
as
a
passenger
in
a
traffic
crash
report,
or
it
could
mean
this,
so
it
does
depend
on
specifically
what
happens
and
what
are
the
adverse
impacts
based
on
the
officer's
actions
that
does
get
taken
into
consideration,
but.
H
L
H
E
I've
been,
I
was
troubled,
reading
this
over
the
last
few
days
and
I
wanted
to
listen
to
everybody
else,
to
see
what
was
their
sensing
and
they're
all
talking
about
the
same
things
that
I've
been
thinking
of
and
the
way
that
I
can
try
to
rationalize
this
in
my
head
is
when
I
read
here
where
it
says
quote,
it
appears
he
is
attempting
to
gain
her
cooperation
to
me
that
that
goes
to
you
know
without
getting
into
any
legal
terms,
but
that
gets
into
the
intent
piece
on
this
police
officer.
E
Then,
when
you
look
at
the
provisions-
and
I
read
the
provisions
over
and
over,
they
appear
to
be
and
there's
you
know,
I'm
not
criticizing
the
provisions,
they
are
what
they
are,
but
they
appear
to
be
more
vanilla.
They
appear
to
be
more
hey.
You
shall
either
comply
or
not
comply.
It's
more
of
the
mechanics,
it's
more
of.
As
we
say,
it's
the
science
of
your
business,
but
but
the
intent
is
more
of
the
art
and
the
human
mind,
and
so
the
thing
that
jumps
out
at
me
from
a
policy
perspective
is
were
there?
E
Is
there
any
other
provisions
out
there?
That
would
better
address
the
this
type
of
violation
where
this
police
officer
clearly
had
an
intent
to
persuade
or
sway
this
type
of
investigation?
Is
there
a
more
powerful,
stronger
policy
out
there
than
1204
and
1807?
I
don't
know,
that's
a
question
for
both
of
you.
L
K
When
the
case
is
brought,
that's
that's
kind
of
one
of
the
things
that's
looked
at
is:
what's
the
more
applicable
the
most
applicable
policies,
you
know,
body,
worn,
recording
equipment,
obviously
that's
a
clear
one
and
we
potentially
fail
to
write
a
complete
report,
but
but
that
again
is
going
to
be
similar
to
attentiveness
to
duty.
It's
not
a.
K
I
wouldn't
say
it's
anything
more
serious
than
that,
so
I
don't
know
that
that
would
necessarily
be
if
you're
asking
about
a
more
serious
policy
or
a
policy
that
has,
you
know,
quote
more
teeth
to
it.
I
don't
know
that.
That's
something
like
conformance
to
laws
or
state.
It's
not
a
standard
of
conduct
issue.
Those
are
the
big
ones
where
you
know
you
have
potential
legal
criminal
law
violations.
Things
like
that.
Those
are
the
policies
that
really
have
the
most
teeth:
excessive
force,
things
of
that
nature.
There's
really
nothing
of
that
nature.
E
So
so
captain
how
how
many
years
on
the
force
was
officer
boyden
I
mean,
was
he
a
rookie
or
was
he.
E
E
So
I
could
see
if
a
rookie
or
somebody
that
was
inexperienced
would
have
you
know,
neglected
to
turn
on
the
body
camera
or
in
the
heat
of
the
moment,
because
everything's
going
on,
they
would
have
forgotten
to
do
one
task
or
another
task.
But
if
you've
been
in
force
for
10
or
15
years,
you
know
what
you're
doing,
and
I
think
when
I
think
of
it
from
that
perspective,
and
then
I
look
at
the
provisions
that
he
was
charged
with
1204
in
1807.
E
B
Well,
I'd
like
to
address
to
the
board
tonight
we
had
the
presence
of
chief
select
mary
o'connor,
and
she
stated
in
her
presentation
how
she's
interested
in
receiving
recommendations
from
the
board
and
things
of
that
nature,
and
it
seemed
like
we're
all
on
the
same
page
in
reference
to
was
there
a
policy
that
can
better
identify
with
this
particular
case
that
has
a
little
bit
more
grip,
a
little
bit
more
teeth.
B
So
that
may
be
something
that
the
board
may
be
interested
in,
bringing
to
the
attention
of
chief
select
mary
o'connor
as
well,
and
also
the
disciplinary
action
after
this
case
was
mishandled
in
in
numerous
in
numerous
violations
of
a
case
and
that
the
the
crime
scene
things
weren't
collected,
she
wasn't
sent
to
the
the
nursery.
So
there's
a
lot
of
failures
in
this
particular
case
and
shining
light
on
this.
B
B
Any
other
further
questions
presented
to
the
podium.
H
B
E
D
Kamari
fetish
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
If
the
board
would
like
to
make
a
motion
regarding
the
matter,
that's
before
them
and
then
make
also,
you
know,
follow
up
with
a
recommendation
that
could
be
made
to
made
to
staff
that
that
certainly
is
an
option.
B
I
I
I
did
like
the
commentary
that
mr
reyes
suggested
in
reference
to
identifying
a
policy
that
had
a
little
bit
more
grip,
invite
to
a
particular
case
like
this,
so
that
that
may
be
something
that
for
further
discussion
in
reference
to
creating
the
recommendation
based
off
this
particular
case.
As
a
template.
B
I
think
we
all
had
concerns
in
reference
to
the
the
disposition
of
receiving
the
letter
of
counseling.
So
again
in
the
motion.
G
We've
been
doing
this
for
a
long
time,
some
of
us
here
sitting
here
and
and
often
comes
up
when
we
look
at
the
disciplinary
action
and
we've
asked
in
the
past
for
somebody
to
come
in
and
talk
to
us
about
not
only
the
disciplinary
obligation
but
the
contractual
obligation
because
they're
they
are
married.
And
I
don't
know
that
everybody
understands
that.
And
so
when
we
go
into
a
situation
like
this.
G
I
would
imagine
no
one's
told
me
this,
but
I
would
imagine
that
at
some
point
those
two
come
together
and
there
has
to
be
a
decision
made
based
on.
What's
contractually
the
officers
have
a
contract,
so
that
part
has
to
be
in
consideration
when
there
is
a
disciplinary
action.
G
H
What
I
heard
them
say
was
their
hands
was
were
tied
to
a
certain
degree
because
of
a
lack
of
cooperation
from
the
victim
in
terms
of
of
her
testifying
to
the
fact
that
some
of
the
things
that
appear
to
have
happened,
that
did
not
happen.
Perhaps
if
that
was
included
in
the
report,
then
the
report
perhaps
would
be
a
bit
more
tolerable,
but
absent
some
of
that.
It
appears
that
this.
H
K
You,
mr
chair,
so
I
can
read
from
from
the
pba
contract.
It's
article
38.2,
no
employee
shall
be
disciplined,
except
for
just
cause.
Progressive,
consistent
and
appropriate
discipline
will
be
administered
according
to
the
seriousness
of
the
offense
and
that
then
it
goes
into
the
order.
The
first
form
of
discipline
is
an
oral
admonishment
and
then
a
letter
of
counseling
and
then
a
written
reprimand,
and
then
you
have
suspension
demotion
if
the
persons
of
rank
or
dismissal
would
be
the
most
serious.
K
So
I
think
probably
what
the
board's
focused
on
here
is
the
seriousness
of
the
offense
and
on
the
surface
it
does.
It
does
appear,
and
it
is
a
serious
offense
now
as
far
as
serious
of
the
offense
goes
as
far
as
what
actual
harm
was
done
to
an
individual.
You
know
in
an
excessive
force
case,
and
somebody
has
you
know,
broken
bones
and
they've
accumulated
medical
bills,
and
things
like
that,
the
city
could
potentially
have
to
you
know
pay
out
sizable
settlements.
K
I
would
have
to
say
this
that
the
command
staff
looked
at
that
as
what
could
potentially
happen
if
more
severe
discipline
is
imposed
and
that
that
person
grieves
the
discipline
you
know
there
was
an
officer
brought
whose
case
was
brought
in
front
of
the
board
last
month
who
ended
up
resigning
under
investigation.
It
was
the
traffic
stop.
He
was
trying
to
to
pick
up
the
female
we
actually
fired
that
officer
years
ago
for
an
excessive
force
incident
nebor
city
and
that
officer
got
their
job
back
through
arbitration.
K
So
that's
why
that
officer
was
still
employed
with
the
tampa
police
department.
So
we
you
know
we,
the
the
contract
and
the
discipline
process
and
the
grievance
process
has
to
be
followed
because
in
the
end,
if,
if
we
impose
discipline
that
is
not
progressive,
consistent
and
appropriate,
based
on
the
offense
we're
just
going
to
get
that
overturned
in
the
grievance
process,
so
that's
that's
really.
K
The
reason
the
discipline's
imposed
the
way
it
is
across
the
board
is
because
we
have
to
go
by
the
letter
of
this
contract
and,
what's
in
the
the
four
corners
of
the
document,
because
that's
what
an
arbitrator
or
the
civil
service
board
is
going
to
rule
on
in
the
future.
When
that
discipline
ends
up
being
grieved,.
B
Yes,
that
material
was
very
informational.
I
would
like,
as
a
request,
if
members
of
the
board
can
also
have
access
to
that
letter
of
contract,
because
in
in
the
past,
in
reviewing
cases,
we
there's
been
dialogue
in
reference
to
the
disciplinary
portion,
but
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
had
those
that
listed
items
in
reference
to
this
violation
and
that
violation
and
what
what
disciplinary
action
reflects
that
so
the
material
that
you
just
read
to
you.
You
stated
that
was
a
letter
of
contract.
K
B
K
K
G
And
just
as
a
comment,
I
wasn't
complaining
that
we
haven't
been
given
a
copy
of
it.
I
came
out
of
a
company
that
was
union.
I
I
understand
I
don't.
I
didn't,
have
all
the
details
in
that
contract,
but
union
contracts
pretty
much
say
those
same
things
and
you
know
sometimes
we
you
know
we
get
balled
up
in
what
we
think
is
just
to
have
happened,
and
you
know
there
are
processes
that
are
gone
through
and
you
know
in.
B
D
B
How
does
the
board
wish
to
continue
in
reference
to
a
motion,
and
one
of
the
other
options
is
that
we're
unable
to
reach
determination
as
well?
So
again,
the
chair
is
open
to
emotion,.
A
D
From
the
city
attorney's
office
still
so
at
this
time
a
motion
needs
to
be
made,
and
if
it's
a
second
is
able
to
be
obtained
regarding
the
motion,
then
it
could
be.
Then
a
vote
can
proceed
regarding
that
motion,
but
it
to
to
go
around
each
person
to
see
how
they
would
like
to
proceed
is
not
according
to
your
current
rules
or
procedure
and
how
you
process
make
a
decision.
B
So
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor
by
mr
valdez
in
reference
to
not
concurring
with
the
disciplinary
action
of
the
disposition.
Correct.
H
D
Your
your
vote,
your
emotion,
the
motion
should
be
twofold,
whether
or
not
you
agree
with
the
process
that
occurred.
Did
this
the
process
and
the
discipline
the
findings
of
the
the
the
captain
regarding
this
matter
so.
H
And
and
the
and
the
the
finding
was
sustained
by
the
so
that's
what
we're
voting
on
we're
not
voting
on
whether
or
not
we
agree
with
the
the
discipline
part
of
it.
That's
outside
of
our
scope.
It's
my
understanding.
G
E
H
D
H
B
The
bi-fold,
so
that
would
be
the
secondary
part
of
that
motion,
but
and
not
to
steer
you
in
any
direction
on
the
motion.
But
do
we
all
agree
of
the
process
of
the
of
the
investigation,
but
just
really
disagree
on
the
dictionary
action.
So
does
he
need
to
restate
the
motion.
D
From
the
city
attorney's
office,
you
could
certainly
bifurcate
your
emotion
and
based
upon
the
discussion
of
the
board.
It
seems
that
that's
where
the
board
is
leaning
towards
you
could
certainly
bifurcate
your
emotion
that
you
do
not
concur
with
the
discipline
that
was
imposed,
but
you
may
agree
or
concur
with
the
findings
of
the
captain
in
this
matter,
so
you
can
you're
certainly
able
to
bifurcate
your
emotion.
B
We
would
now
continue
with
the
vote.
All
those
in
favor
show
by
raising
a
hand,
although
opposed
show
by
raise
a
hand.
The
motion
passes
that
we
concur
on
the
process
of
the
investigation,
that
is
in
findings,
but
we
do
not
concur
with
the
disciplinary
action
and
the
result
of
the
case
in
reference
to
officer
boyd.
I
E
Recommendation,
what
is
the
next?
What
is
the
way
ahead
for
that.
D
That
recommendation
will
then
be
sent
to
the
chief
of
police
and
the
chief
of
there's
a
process
that
that
has
to
be
followed
based
upon
the
new
ordinance
that
was
adopted.
So
we
will
follow
that
process
to
get
the
recommendation
to
the
chief
of
police.
B
A
What
I'm
hearing
is
our
recommendation
is
to
create
a
tougher
or
more
stricter
policy.
Well,
what
is
that
going
to
look
like,
like
that's
real
broad?
So
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
we
would
like
to
discuss
with
achieve
more
so
in
detail
as
to
what
that
policy
is
going
to
look
like.
So
it's
not
just
left
up
in
the
air
as
to
being
just
more
tougher.
D
So
and
I
apologize,
I
know
the
captain
wants
to
respond
there,
you,
you
send
your
recommendation
to
the
chief
of
police
and
then
the
chief
of
police
will
then
respond
to
that
recommendation.
That's
the
process,
so
it's
in
the
new
ordinance.
So
within
30
days
of
conclusion
of
the
citizen
review
boards
review,
the
crb
shall
forward
its
written
findings
and
recommendation
to
the
chief
of
police
and
affected
officer
so
that
information,
your
recommendation,
will
go
to
the
chief
of
police
and
there's
a
process
that
follows
that
there
will
be
a
response
also.
E
So,
given
the
process
and
sunshine
laws-
and
all
of
that
are
we
to
right
now
in
this
setting,
assemble
together,
get
our
thoughts
together
and
actually
write
something
out
for
them.
D
Staff
will
work
with
getting
writing
something
out
and
providing
that
to
the
mayor.
Please
don't
be
concerned
with
trying
to
write
something
out
tonight.
Oh,
you
could
just
verbally
state
what
your
recommendation
is
and
staff
will
make
sure
that
the
chief
of
police
gets
that.
So
please
don't
be
concerned
that
you
have
to
write
something
out,
but
your
emotion
was
to
create
a
stricter
policy.
If
you
want
to
have
further
con
discussion
about
what
that
specific
recommendation
and
guidance
is
before
it's
provided
to
the
chief
of
police,
that's
certainly
the
board's
pleasure.
B
K
You
will
captain,
if
I
may,
captain
mesmer
again
professional
standards
did
the
board.
Actually,
I
want
to
make
sure
the
board
has
the
verbiage
what
he
was
charged
with
and
what
was
sustained
the
actual
pilot.
Before
we
start
talking
about,
we
need
to
write
a
new
regulation.
You
have
you
have
a
copy
of
that.
It's
subsection
five
of
the
attentiveness
to
duty
employees
shall
submit
all
required
reports
on
a
timely
basis
in
accordance
with
procedures.
K
Employees
will
competently
investigate
all
matters
which
require
police
attention
and
write
reports
when
needed.
Reports
and
investigations
will
be
complete
and
shall
be
accomplished
in
such
a
manner
as
not
to
convey
an
indolent
disposition
on
the
part
of
the
investigator.
I
mean
it.
It
pretty
much
covers
exactly
what
happened
in
this
case,
so
I
don't.
I
mean
the
board.
K
Obviously
the
board's
pleasure
can
recommend
you
know
whatever
the
board
would
like,
but
as
far
as
you
know,
our
mors
one
of
them
can't
say
well,
this
mor
you're
gonna
get
fired
if
you
violate
it
and
this
one
you're
not.
This
is
more
serious
than
that
when
there
are
certain
ones
like
conformance
to
laws.
Obviously,
if
an
officer
gets
convicted
of
a
felony
or
or
a
serious
criminal
allegation,
we're
going
to
fire
that
officer
just
based
on
that,
but
before
the
board
you
know
gets
into
specifics
about
wanting
to
write
a
new
regulation.
K
You
know
that
regulation.
That
was
that
I
just
read.
That
was
what
was
sustained
on
him
and
it
is
very
clear
that
he
did
not
competently
investigate
the
matter
and
he
did
not
write
the
appropriate
report
and
he
did
it
in
an
indolent
manner.
So
just
just
pointing
that
out
there
for
the
board
that
the
policy
does
address
everything
that
the
officer
did
in
this
case.
E
E
The
sticking
point
that
I
have
as
a
member
is
when
I
read
the
description
in
summation
and
I
read
that
piece
about
the
intent,
and
so
when
I
read
the
provisions,
I
don't
see
anything
about
intent
and
to
me
if
that
police
officer
had
some
sort
of
intent,
which
was
other
than
honorable,
that
to
me
rises
to
another
level,
which
I
felt
was
not
adequately
provided
for
in
the
provisions
that
he
was
charged
with
those
two.
E
So
I
I
agree
with
you,
I'm
not
so
sure
it's
an
issue
of
rewriting
the
the
provisions,
but
it
is
one
of
understanding
that
there
are
nuances
and
levels
of
behavior
and
intent
and
they
they
are
differentiated.
And
in
this
case,
because
of
what
happened
and
because
of
his
punishment,
what
he
was
given.
B
So
again,
to
our
understanding,
the
recommendation
has
been
sent
out.
Staff
will
will
return
with
return
with
the
follow-up.
In
reference
to
that,
we
that
that
recommendation
didn't
sit
well
with
us
and
we
will
review
that
material
and
if
a
presentation
needed
to
be
needed
or
a
discussion
needed
to
be
made
and
then
move
from
that
point,
is
that
correct?
Mr
maria.
D
Yes,
mr
chair-
and
I
just
want
to
verify
just
for
the
captain
and
for
staff,
that
the
recommendation
is
to
have
or
to
modify
the
existing
policies
and
procedures
in
order
to
address
the
intent
of
the
officer.
Is
that
correct.
H
H
You
know
from
a
layperson's
standpoint,
so
it
it
seems
like
there's
a
disconnect
in
terms
of
behavior
and
just
simple
mechanics,
so
some
way
of
interpreting
it
such
that
it
can
be,
and
there
again
I
understand
that
the
the
limitations
of
not
having
a
witness
coming
forth
and
your
hands
are
tied
in
terms
of
technicalities
being
thrown
out.
But
but
that's
that's
that's
my
feeling.
My
feeling
I
understand.
G
Guy,
I
think
part
of
our
issue
is
we
always
got
the
whole
report
before
now
we're
getting
sort
of
a
synopsis
of
it.
We
used
to
get
the
complete
report
with
the
interviews
and
everything,
and
maybe
that
would
have
helped
with
understanding
exactly
what
happened.
I
mean
I
don't
I
don't
recall
when
we
stopped
getting
the
complete
reports,
but
right
yes,.
D
I
I
understand
sue
just
regarding
the
table
of
contents
and
the
information
on
the
matter.
That's
before
you
this
evening,
it
looks
as
though
staff
did
provide
information
that
is
available
upon
request.
So
I
guess
previously
you,
the
board
did
not
have
to
request
that
information
is
what
you're
stating.
G
B
So,
in
reference
to
the
bwc
footage
in
the
past,
we
would
have
had
access
to
review
that
information.
D
B
So,
in
future
reference
when
a
case
is
selected
and
we
do
receive
that
synopsis,
if
there's
a
board
member
who
wishes
to
have
more
impact
on
that
particular
case,
we'll
have
to
submit
a
request
and
then
they
will
fulfill
that
request
and
get
you.
The
information
needed
for
review
and
purposes
question
so.
A
Just
about
this,
I
personally
feel
that
we
should
be
given
all
the
information
as
it
comes
from
the
very
beginning.
A
lot
goes
on
in
our
day-to-day
life
that
we
also
have
to
take
things
into
consideration
that
if
we
are
reviewing
cases
on
the
weekends
or
after
hours-
and
we
don't
have
time
to
be
able
to
request
that
information-
we
come
here
and
then
we
hear
the
presentations
and
we
don't
have
the
full
scope
of
what
happened.
A
So
I
I
would
like
to
request
to
have
that
information
sent
to
us
with
the
cases
prior
to
coming
here.
The
full
whole
package.
K
So
I
can
address
that
we
can
provide
that
if
that
was
provided
in
the
past.
I
don't
see
a
reason
why
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
the
reason
that
it
was
done
by
request
is
because
it
if
somebody
does
request
that
at
that
point
we
have
to
redact
a
lot
of
things,
especially
with
the
body
camera
video.
We
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time,
redacting
it.
So
if
the
board
was
not
interested
in
that,
then
we
weren't
going
to
spend
the
time
to
do
it
unless
it
was
requested.
K
But
if
that's
the
pleasure
of
the
board,
we
can
continue
to
do
that.
We
just
have
to
understand
that
the
you
know
the
videos
are
probably
going
to
be
too
big
to
be
able
to
email,
so
somebody
would
have
to
would
have
to
pick
the
videos
up.
H
G
I
I'd
have
to
leave
that
to
the
attorney
to
make
that
decision.
I
that's
that's
when
it
really
stopped
was
when
we
started
emailing
all
the
documents
to
to
the
members,
and,
but
I
know
for
me,
it
certainly
made
me
understand
better
in
be
empathetic
one
way
or
the
other,
because
you
did
see
all
of
the
all
the
interviews.
So
it
was
very
helpful.
Okay,.
B
Any
other
any
other
questions
or
statements
or
concerns
in
reference
to
item
eight
case
being
reviewed.
G
It's
late,
but
I
am
confused
about
what
we're
sending
to
you
know
as
far
as
okay,
the
the
vote
was
that
we
disagreed
did
not
concur.
The
board
does
not
agree
with
the
com,
the
discipline,
but
they
agree
with
the
disposition
of
the
complaint
and.
G
B
In
reference
to
the
recommendation
portion
that
staff
will
get
back
with
us
with
a
recommendation
that
we
can
open
up
a
discussion
and
either
help
shape
it
or
edit.
Whatever
the
case,
maybe
have
some
discussion
upon
that.
D
So
I
could
what's
been
informed
is
traditionally
a
recommendation
is
made
by
the
board
and
then
the
recommendation
is
then
sent
to
the
chief
of
police.
The
chief
of
police
will
then
respond
or
acknowledge
the
recommendation
and
determine
whether
or
not
the
recommendation
is
going
to
be
adopted
by
the
chief
of
police.
So
there
is
a
process
in
place
under
the
new
ordinance.
But
if
you,
if
I
still
hear
a
question
about
whether
or
not
that's
truly
the
recommendation
of
the
board,
you
could
simply
table
this.
D
B
So
it
seems
like
the
board
was
on
board
with,
with
with
seeing
what
is
returned
and
at
that
point
open
up
discussion
to
see
if
it
fits
what
the
board
is.
Trying
to
the
message
sent
to
the
to
the
chief.
B
I
know
we
had
the
chief
select
mayor
o'connor
here
earlier
and
that
typically
would
have
fit
under
community
and
tampa
police
department
matters.
But
I
I
moved
that
particular
item
up
under
the
approval
of
a
minutes.
I
just
want
to
ensure
that
there
wasn't
any
additional
information
need
to
be
presented
to
the
board.
K
Okay,
mr
chair,
we
don't
have
anything
for
number
nine,
but
I
do
have
some
items
for
number
ten
for
staff
reports.
B
Okay,
that
concludes
I
don't
know
under
the
agenda.
We
will
continue
to
item
10,
crb
staff
reports
in
business.
If
you
will
captain.
K
Sure
so
one
of
the
requirements
of
the
new
ordinance
is
that
I
informed
the
board
about
any
changes
in
specific
policies.
There's
a
there's
a
list
of
several
of
them,
mainly
our
high
liability
policies,
things
of
that
nature,
the
collective
bargaining
agreement
and
so
forth.
The
officer's
bill
of
rights,
certain
public
records
laws.
So
I'm
just
here
to
tell
you
there
are
no
changes
to
any
of
that
at
this
board
meeting
addition
to
that
we
have
the
annual
report,
which
I
believe
has
been
provided
to
you.
K
So
this
is
actually
based
upon
a
section
I
or
excuse
me
section
three
section
I
of
the
new
ordinance
number
three,
so
the
annual
report
now
is
required
to
have
certain
items
in
it
that
was
not
required
before
it
looked
like.
I
was
reviewing
some
of
the
past
ones
and
they
basically
were
a
compilation
of
the
minutes
from
the
meetings
throughout
the
year.
K
We've
kind
of
abandoned
that,
because
the
ordinance
now
requires
the
annual
report
to
consist
of
certain
things.
So
I
have
the
cover
page
section.
One
is
basically
an
overview
of
the
crb.
It
kind
of
goes
into
some
details
about
what
the
crb
is,
what
the
crb
can
do
and
then
has
your
names
on
there.
Section
two
goes
into
the
matters
that
have
been
considered
by
the
board
in
2021.
K
There
is
a
list
on
here.
Excuse
me
a
table
of
the
different
policy
violations
and
regulations
that
were
contained
in
the
11
cases
that
the
board
considered
last
year,
as
well
as
the
disposition
that
the
department
found
with
those
specific
policy
violations,
your
recommendations
and
your
your
emotions
for
your
concurrence
or
non-concurrence
was
also
addressed
in
there.
I
believe
there
was
one
case
or
excuse
me
that
that's
in
a
different
section.
K
K
Chief
delgado
came
back
on
that
last
month,
but
that
wasn't
included
in
this
report
because
it's
only
for
2021
and
then
there
were
several
discussions
about
the
proposed
changes
to
the
city
ordinance
and
then
two
of
the
three
training
sessions,
the
third
one
actually
happened
in
2022,
so
that
wasn't
included
there.
So
that
was
section
two
section:
three,
that's
the
the
summary
of
the
citizen.
Complaints
and
remember
that
that
was
beginning
with
january
of
2022
is
when
we
provided
the
the
list
of
the
complaints
to
you
on
a
monthly
basis.
K
So
this
was
actually
all
the
complaints
that
occurred
in
2021.
So
most
of
this
was
never
provided
to
the
board
because
that
that
happened
prior
to
the
new
ordinance
coming
into
effect.
But
these
are
our
records
of
citizen
complaints
and
then
the
method
that
the
complaint
was
brought
to
the
police
department.
K
There
was
a
mention
in
here
about
the
new
email
address
that
was
created
pursuant
to
the
ordinance
that
we
have
to
check
in
2021.
That
did
not
exist,
so
we
didn't
have
any
complaints
come
into
the
email
address
section.
Four
were
the
findings
and
the
conclusions
of
the
board,
so
that
went
into
the
actual
cases
that
the
concurrence
non-concurrence
are
unable
to
reach
a
decision
from
2021.
K
There
was
one
case
if
you
recall
where
the
the
board
was
unable
to
reach
a
decision,
and
that
was
the
case
involving
the
city's
b1.2
policy
on
discriminatory
conduct,
believe
the
board
wanted
some
more
information
regarding
the
previous
history
and
that
information
could
not
be
provided
at
the
time
of
the
meeting,
because
there
was
pending
litigation
involved
in
that
case.
So
that
was
the
reason
in
that
one
case.
K
While
the
board
was
unable
to
reach
a
decision
and
then
they
concurred
with
the
the
findings
of
the
department
in
the
other
10
cases,
section
5
was
the
recommendations
that
the
board
made.
There
were
no
specific
recommendations
made
last
year
by
the
board.
K
K
So
I
did
note
that
council,
chair
goodes
and
councilman
sutro
were
both
at
the
june
2021
meeting
and
then
section
seven
is
that
is
your
option
to
write
a
written
statement
to
be
included
with
the
annual
report,
so
obviously
that
that
part
of
it
would
need
to
be
discussed
by
the
board
and
with
ms
pettis
mackel
to
see
what
the
board's
pleasure
is
about.
The
written
statement.
E
I
have
a
question
so
as
part
of
the
requirements
is,
that
has
to
be
presented
or
briefed
to
city
council
right.
K
K
The
board
decides
to
write
a
statement
and
include
that
and
then
within
60
days
of
the
approval
that
has
to
be
presented
to
city
council
by
chair
akil
and
any
other
board
members
who
would
like
to
attend
and
also
myself.
E
Is
that
during
one
of
their
scheduled
city,
council
meetings,
yes
on
thursdays?
Yes,
thank
you.
D
G
B
I'm
aware
that
I
have
some
email
challenges,
so
I'm
I'm
waiting
to
see
what's
wrong.
I.
D
D
Line
that
we
received,
I
will
inadvertently
I
thought
it
was
sent
to
all
of
you.
I
will
email
it
to
everyone
on
the
I'm
sorry,
I
will
email
it
to
everyone
on
the
board.
If
we
can,
I
would
if
the
board,
if
it's
the
board's
pleasure,
once
you're
able
to
review
the
annual
report,
we
could
certainly
discuss
it
at
the
next
agenda.
Meeting.
Okay,.
B
H
It
feasible
to
have
a
standard
email
that
we
get
correspondence
from,
because
we're
getting
correspondence
from
names
that
I'm
not
familiar
with.
I
have
thousands
of
emails
that
go
into
so.
D
D
Think,
that's
a
that's
a
difficult.
I
I
I
know
I
certainly
emailed
the
board
members.
I
know
our
clerk,
miss
will
cox
emails,
the
board
and
any
staff
who's
responsible
regarding
providing
the
documents
provide
email
to
the
board.
I
think
it's
hard
to
gauge
it
that
it
will
only
be.
I
understand,
reverend.
H
Used
to
there
will
know
maybe
a
list
of
of
the
emails.
Perhaps
we
could
do
a
so.
We
know
who
to
search
for
you
know,
for
example,
the
the
the
the
case
came
out
from
katie
and
I
did
a
crb
search.
H
Maybe
if
you
put
crb
in
the
subject
matter
some
way,
then
we
can
do
a
quarry,
say
crb,
then
anything
with
crb
on
it
would
pop
up,
because
I
did
a
quarry
for
that
and
I
got
tony
tonia's
emails,
but
I
didn't
get
katie's
and
I
had
to
remember
well
who
could
have
set
the
document
out
and
finally,
I
I
did
tampa.gov
and
and
it
popped
it
up,
that
way
to
see
whatever
came,
but
I
had
to
look
at
all
of
those
emails
to
try
to
try
to
find
stuff.
D
H
H
And
the
the
person
that
sent
something
out
she,
she
sent
a
corrected
email.
That
said,
I'm
sorry,
you
were
not
on
my
original
list,
so
whoever
is
sending
emails
out
on
behalf
of
the
board,
be
sure
they
have
all
of
our
names
so
that
so
that
we
can
eventually
we'll
be
familiar
with
the
names.
But
yes,.
D
B
Continuing
under
community
camp
police
department
matters
do
we
have
a
monthly
do.
We
have
a
monthly
complaint
tracking
she
for
this
particular
month.
K
I
believe
that
was
sent
back
on
february
1st.
I
Mike
schmidt,
since
city
attorney
we're
all
learning
right
from
little
bumps
along
the
way
here,
with
this
new
ordinance,
there's
there's
a
whole
lot
of
new
things
here,
yeah.
So
as
of
the
first,
we,
the
rules
require
that
we
send
it
to
the
chair.
That's
specifically
what
it
says.
So
we
sent
it
to
the
chair
because
that's
what
the
rule
says,
however
normal
in
the
future,
we
will
also
bring
a
copy
to
discuss
with
you.
I
don't
think
we
brought
a
copy
of
it
this
tonight.
I
All
we
did
was
we
sent
it
to
the
chair.
Unfortunately,
so
we
didn't
bring
bring
a
copy
for
for
a
discussion
tonight.
We
will
make
sure
we
in
the
future
bring
all
copies.
So
we
can
have
a
discussion
if
there
is
one
to
be
had
on
the
complaint
tracking
system.
B
So
is
it
in
the
new
ordinance
that
the
chair
receives
the
monthly
complaint
tracking?
Could
we
implement
that
into
the
total
email
where
we
can
share
that
material
with
the
other
board
members?
So
we
can
all
get
it
simultaneously,
so
they
have
the
opportunity
to
review
it
as
well.
So
when
we
do
come
in
for
a
meeting,
everyone
can
be
on
the
same
page.
I
B
Can
we
can?
We
include
the
monthly
complaint
tracking
system
with
the
annual
report,
so
we
can
have
that
material
prior
to
next
month's
meeting.
D
B
Any
any
other
questions
statements
concerns
for
captain
in
reference
to
item
10,
crb
staff,
department,
business,
okay,
that
concludes
item
10,
crb
staff
reports
and
business
move
on
to
item
11
items
continued.
B
This
particular
item
was
placed
on
the
agenda
to
keep
the
board
abreast
of
case
numbers
that
are
still
out
there.
That
hasn't
necessarily
been
closed
for
us
to
review
some
additional
information.
So
that's
why
those
items
in
there
any
questions
or
statements
and
concerns
to
those
two
case
numbers.
K
Mr
chair,
the
first
case
number
on
there
that
was
requested
by
the
board
to
follow
up
on
the
cjstc
action
for
officer
magarosi
so
that
that
hearing
actually
occurred
last
week
and
we
received
information
that
they
did
find
probable
cause.
So
at
this
point
he
has
received
notice,
so
he
will
have
the
option
to
either
set
a
disciplinary
hearing
in
front
of
the
board
or
the
board.
Can
he
can
voluntarily
surrender
his
law
enforcement
certification
of
the
board
right.
I
B
B
Could
we
have
that
update
stated
within
the
minutes
as
well?
So
members
that
are
asking
night
will
have
the
opportunity
to
review
that.
B
Coming
to
conclude
item
11
items
continued
we'll
now
move
on
to
announcements
and
new
business
under
item
12.
D
Mr
chair
kamari
panismacka
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
if
you
could
just
announce
our
next
meeting,
is
march
22nd
of
2022
at
6
pm.
B
The
next
meeting
will
be
held
on
the
fourth
tuesday
of
the
month
of
february.
Excuse
me
of
march
22nd
at
6
pm
here
at
old
city
hall,
and
I
encourage
board
members
for
any
reason.
If
you're
unable
to
attend
the
next
meeting,
please
notify
our
city
clerk
at
least
48
hours
in
advance
to
ensure
we
have
a
voting
forum.
B
We
understand
that
there
could
be
circumstances
and
will
be
it
adjusts
accordingly,
but
again,
it's
very
important
to
ensure
a
voting
form
or
a
quorum,
especially
when
we
have
special
guests
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
I
just
want
to
re-implement
the
importance
of
giving
notification
if
one
is
absent,
so
we
adjust
the
agenda
if
necessary.
D
If,
by
any
chance,
no
one
remembers
our
city,
clerk's,
email,
you're,
welcome
to
email
me
as
well
and
call
me
if
you
have
an
emergency,
but
just
to
let
us
know
in
advance
that
you
will
not
be
able
to
make
the
meeting.
A
A
D
A
I
just
I'm
concerned
with
the
fact
that
you
know
one
member
misses
we,
we
don't
have
a
court
room,
so
there's
not
much
that
you
know
we
can
do
so,
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
we
build
the
seats
quickly
and
that
there's
an
expectation
that
the
members
coming
in
that
you
have
that
timing,
light
time
in
the
matter
to
fulfill
the
requirements
to
be
able
to
then
fully
be
embedded
into
the
board.
I
understand.
B
Before
I
join
this
meeting,
I
would
like
to
give
any
of
our
board
members
the
opportunity
to
add
any
final
comments
or
statements
at
this
time.
H
Okay
next
question:
the.