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Historic Preservation Commission 01122021
B
A
B
C
Good
morning
camaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
Will
the
commissioners
see
whether
or
not
there
are
any
ex
parte
communications
regarding
the
two
items
that
are
on
the
agenda
in
seeing
none
for
the
record
additionally,
have
any
of
the
commissioners
had
any
conflicts
of
interest
regarding
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda?
A
B
Was
an
addition
that
was
a
radio
revision
from
1984.,
so
they
have
been
in
place
for
quite
some
long.
Quite
a
long
time,
there's
been
some
updates
to
them
over
the
years,
but
they're
at
a
point
where
we
have
a
need
to
to
comprehensively
update
them,
and
we
have
secured
the
firm
of
s
and
m
e
to
assist
us
with
this.
B
We're
going
to
be
working
under
that.
This
part
that
occurs
before
your
formal
consideration
of
the
draft
is
as
an
effort
to
not
only
convey
to
the
public
and
to
our
users
that
we're
going
through
this
process,
but
to
also
receive
feedback
from
the
hpc
on
any
particular
areas
of
concentration
that
they
would
like
to
see.
B
C
Morning
again,
camarilla
pedestal
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
the
board
that
your
third
authority
to
review
the
standard
design
standards
is
under
code,
section
27-264
design
standards,
specifically
representing
subsection
b,
which
is
which
is
regarding
to
existing
districts.
C
Excuse
me,
obviously,
when
we
get
closer
to
the
hbc,
making
additional
comments
or
suggestions
or
approval
of
the
proposed
guidelines,
that
will
be
a
public
hearing
in
that
code,
section
provides
additional
standards
that
have
to
take
place,
so
I
just
want
to
remind
the
board
what
your,
where
your
authority
is
based
on.
Thank
you.
B
F
Good
morning,
can
you
hear
me
okay
with
the
mask?
Yes,
no
okay,
so
my
name
is
pat
tajeski
and
I
am
the
planning
director
for
snme
we're
based
in
orlando.
I
have
a
very
short
presentation
today.
It's
the
same
presentation
that
we
use
for
the
kickoff
with
staff.
It's
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
we're
going
to
be
working
on
in
the
next
few
months.
F
So
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
project,
scope,
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
schedule
and
the
team
that
we
have
put
together,
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
current
standards
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
current
draft.
That
staff
has
already
started
and
we'll
talk
about.
What's
next
in
terms
of
the
project
scope,
it
is
a
very
straightforward
scope,
we're
going
to
start
with
the
kickoff
meetings,
and
the
idea
is
that
we
want
to
hear
from
the
different
stakeholders
we
want
to
hear
from
staff.
F
We
want
to
hear
from
the
historic
preservation
commission
from
the
barrio
latino.
We
want
to
know
what
has
worked
in
the
past
and
what
hasn't
so
that
way
we're
better
informed.
When
we
start
working
on
the
standards,
then
we
get
into
the
draft
guidelines
and
public
input.
We
will
produce
drafts,
we'll
have
reviews,
have
meetings
and
do
this
process
for
several
months,
and
then
we
go
to
adoption.
F
When
we
look
at
it.
I
guess
I
have
the
schedule
later
in
terms
of
the
applicability
of
these
standards.
It
is
our
understanding
that
they
will
apply
to
the
local
district.
We
have
very
different
boundaries
shown
on
this
map,
the
national
district,
the
local
district,
but
our
understanding
is
that
the
standards
will
apply
to
the
gray
boundary,
the
dark
gray
boundary
for
the
schedule,
so
the
kickoffs
we
started
this
process
in
december.
F
F
Then
we
will
come
back
to
the
historic
preservation
commission
do
the
same
and
so
forth
until
we
get
to
july
when
we
expect
to
be
ready
to
start
going
through
the
adoption
hearings,
so
the
team,
so
I'm
leading
the
effort,
but
I'm
also
working
with
eddie
browder
who's
present.
Today
we
have
worked
together
on
many
historic
preservation
projects.
In
the
past
we
serve
as
the
historic
preservation
officers
for
the
cities
of
melbourne
and
titusville
in
brevard
county,
but
helping
us.
We
have
a
team
of
landscape,
architects
and
planners
and
also
a
senior
graphic
designer.
F
We
also
are
going
to
be
working
very
closely
with
staff
they,
as
dennis
mentioned-
and
I
mentioned
they
had
already
started
a
draft
in
the
past.
We're
not
going
to
just
forget
about
that
and
start.
You
know
from
scratch.
There's
a
lot
of
information
already
that
have
been
put
together,
so
we're
going
through
that
draft
too,
and,
of
course,
the
stakeholders.
F
F
So
the
current
guidelines,
so
when
we
looked
at
the
draft
understanding
that
it
was
very
old
a
little
bit
outdated,
some
of
the
graphics
were
not
that
great
anymore.
The
outline,
however,
is,
is
simple.
It's
easy
to
understand.
You
have
some
general
standards,
then
you
talk
about.
You
know:
land
rehabilitation,
you
talk
about
commercial,
structural
rehabilitation
and
then
residential.
F
The
question,
however,
is
when
we
go
to
the
district
and
look
at
the
different
different
buildings,
and
we
think
about
that
booklet,
those
standards
what
has
worked
and
what
hasn't
is
there
something
that
we
wish
we
had
in
writing
that?
Maybe
it's
not
there
yet
is
there
something
that
just
creates
trouble
by
having
it
in
the
standards?
So
those
are
the
questions
that
we
want
to
to
hear
from
from
everybody
and
again
we're
talking
about
new
construction,
we're
talking
about
rehabilitation,
many
different
types
of
activities.
F
Do
we
need
to
have
references
to
some
landmark
buildings
already
in
the
district,
so
in
terms
of
the
current
draft,
so
we
started
reviewing
it.
The
outline
pretty
much
includes
general
standards,
new
construction
and
rehabilitation
and
some
miscellaneous,
but
when
we
look
at
each
section
we're
going
through
it
and
looking
at
okay,
so
this
is
just
the
introduction.
Do
we
need
all
that
information
in
that
chapter?
When
we
talk
with
staff,
we
realize
that
there
may
be
some
things
in
that
chapter.
F
F
F
E
F
That's
something
that
we're
going
to
be
relying
on
staff
to
to
get
input
from
them
and
they'll
be
giving
us
names
and
numbers
and
emails
so
that
we
can,
you
know,
gather
these
people
when
we
had
to
kick
off.
We
talked
about
some
groups,
and
I
would
invite
dennis
to
give
you
more
information
on
who
they
are,
but.
B
B
If
someone
cares
to
participate,
that's
not
in
one
of
those
organizations
they
they're
more
than
welcome
to
we'll
be
reaching
out
to
the
aia,
local
chapter
as
well
to
let
them
know
that
this
is
underway
and
to
allow
them
to
engage
in
the
process,
and
we
totally
recognize
that
once
we
begin
to
publicize
this
like
we,
we
are
at
this
morning's
meeting
that
there's
going
to
be
a
high
degree
of
interest
and
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
participation.
That's
really
what
we
want,
because
we
want.
F
B
I
think
one
one
thing
to
kind
of
consider
as
you're
sort
of
processing
this
information
and
perhaps
coming
up
with
a
list
of
you
know,
topics
that
you
want
to
review
pay
special
attention
to.
Is
that
there's
the
existing
guidelines
when
written
we're
really
focused
on
the
rehabilitation
and
adaptive
reuse
of
historic
properties?
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
information
in
there
about
you
know
restoring
storefronts,
and
you
know
how
you
change
a
building.
Building
from
you
know,
one
purpose
to
another
purpose
and
and
meet
codes
and
whatnot
as
we
move
into
these
guidelines
with
the
you
know
where
we
are
today
with
ebor
city
as
a
historic
district.
This
this
document
actually
predated
igbor
said
he
has
a
national
landmark
district.
It's
that
it's
been
around
that
long.
B
So
as
we
move
in
we're
going
to
be
paying
special
attention
to
the
new
construction
sections
of
this
document
and
the
sort
of
the
miscellaneous,
because
the
miscellaneous
is
really
very,
has
a
big
impact.
You
know
so
you're
talking
about
you,
know
modern
equipment
and
pertinent
fixtures,
and
you
know
what
the
public
typically
would
interact
with
on
a
more
routine
basis
than
perhaps
you
know
not
not
keen
into
something
as
obvious
as
the
siding
of
a
building.
B
So
you
know
those
areas
are
going
to
be
very
important
to
kind
of
work
through
to
keep
the
the
standards
we're
moving
from
guidelines
to
standards
to
keep
the
standards
relevant
for
today,
but
also
able
to
sort
of
grow
with
the
district,
because
we
don't
have
the
resources.
Unfortunately,
to
do
this
very
often.
B
So
when
we
do
it,
we
want
to
try
to
create
a
document
that
that
can
kind
of
evolve
as
the
district
evolves
and
as
you've
seen
from
1984,
we
went
from
you
know,
a
district
that
was
really
in
recovery
to
something
that's,
you
know
very
vibrant
urban
village.
Now
that
has
a
lot
of
development
pressures
for
density
for
types
of
buildings
that
you
know,
weren't,
really
envisioned
in
the
80s
like
public
parking
garages
or
private
parking
garages.
A
Yeah,
I
would
hope
that
if,
if
it
is
at
all
possible
to
create
some
language
in
there,
that
is
a
little
bit
stronger
than
it
is
recommended
that,
because
I
know
from
my
years
on
the
architectural
review
commission
that
so
many
people
have
come
before
that
commission
seeking
to
do
things
that
the
guidelines
did
not
offer
enough
tooth
to
be
able
to
enforce
adherence
to
some
of
the
the
guidelines
that
were
in
in
the
documents
for
those
other
historic
districts
in
the
city.
And
I
know
it's
a
it's
a
tricky
fine
line
to
walk.
F
A
A
Quite
frankly,
and
and
it's
it's
a
shame
that
some
of
these
historic
structures
in
the
city
have
come
to
that
point
where,
by
negligence
of
the
owner
and
in
just
doing
some
minimal
maintenance
over
the
years,
the
buildings
have
deteriorated
significantly
and
and
then
they
complain
because
it's
going
to
cost
so
much
to
have
to
rehab
it
in
its
more
deteriorated
condition.
So
hopefully
that
might
be
something
that
that
these
standards
could
also
address.
That
might
be
able
to
be
adopted
by
the
other
guidelines
in
the
future
as
well
sure.
D
One
of
the
things
I'd
just
like
to
note
is
that
I
think
when
reading
these
guidelines,
it
would
be
important
to
tie
together
like
all
of
the
requirements,
parking
signage,
so
that
we
don't
have
to
flip
through
the
code
to
get
from
one
section
to
another
to
see
what
would
be
allowed.
I
think
there
should
be.
It
should
be
pretty
well
stated
within
the
guidelines.
What's
what's
required,
yeah.
F
So
later
people
will
say
well
you're
requiring
so
many
parking
spaces
here
in
your
standards
for
the
historic
district,
but
in
the
code
it
says
something
else,
and
then
it
puts
you
in
a
situation
of
when
was
that
change?
Should
we
have
changed
the
standards,
so
we
believe
in
making
it
user
friendly,
but
we
have
to
avoid
ending
up
with
conflicts.
F
D
E
Or
even
if
it
could
be
offered
as
an
addendum,
you
know
so
perhaps
it's
not
part
of
the
official
document
that
gets
adopted,
but
certainly
I
agree
that
that
is
a
big
issue,
especially
with
the
non-professional
folks
that
are
looking
at
these
guidelines.
If
you
could
have
something
that
could
be
updated
if,
in
fact,
the
code
changes
say,
you
know
two
to
two
and
a
half
parking
spaces.
E
F
Very
simple
that
says:
okay,
I'm
gonna,
you
know
do
something
to
my
building.
What
are
the
steps?
You
know
you
go
to
this
document.
You
go
to
that
document.
Make
sure
you
remember
to
get
a
permit,
so
something
like
that
can
help
them
at
least
put
in
one
page,
the
pieces
and
parts
they
have
to
be
aware
of
that.
Helps
too.
D
F
Yeah,
that's
something
that
we
like
to
take
into
consideration,
especially
when
we
do,
for
example,
bonuses
for
height
or
density.
It's
like
not
everybody's,
going
to
be
able
to
utilize
these
bonus,
because
you
also
have
to
consider
the
neighbors.
You
also
have
to
consider
the
size
of
your
lot
where
you're
located
so
it's
kind
of
like
a
putting
a
disclaimer
before
you
yeah.
That's
managing
expectations.
A
E
B
E
B
We
got
this
in
for
this
morning,
but
the
next
item
was
just
informational
with
preservation
park.
We
are
going
to
be
bringing
that
back
to
you
in
march,
for
the
public
hearing,
we've
been
consulting
with
both
the
state
and
the
federal
regulators,
because
that
is
part
of
the
florida
state
park
system,
so
that
was
just
an
update
for
you
to
let
you
know
that
in
march
you
can
expect
to
see
that
on
the
agenda
and
other
than
that,
that's
concludes
the
staff's
business
for
the
day.
Okay,.