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Then
staff
will
present
their
report.
Then
we
will
ask
for
public
comment.
If
you
are
speaking
during
public
comment,
please
State
and
spell
your
name
clearly.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
for
or
against
a
particular
project,
your
time
will
be
limited
to
three
minutes
so
take
time.
To
summarize
your
comments,
because
these
three
minutes
go
very
quickly
following
the
public
comment,
the
applicant
will
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
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H
Davis
good
morning,
Commissioners
kamaria
Pettis
Michael
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
Will
the
Commissioners
State
whether
or
not
they
have
any
conflicts
of
interest?
Regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda,
no
I
do
additionally,
will
the
Commissioners,
please
State
whether
or
not
they've
had
any
ex
parte
Communications
regarding
any
of
the
items
that
are
on
the
agenda.
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I
Four
item
number:
seven:
we
do
have
a
speaker
who's
coming
in.
He
is
not
arrived
yet.
So
if
it's
the
pleasure
of
the
board,
we
could
perhaps
switch
seven
for
eight
and
take
HPC
20
23-01.
First
on
the
agenda.
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K
So
this
item
this
morning
for
HBC
2023-01,
is
the
redesignation
of
a
contributing
structure
in
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district.
I.
Think
the
presentation
is
ready
now.
Thank
you.
The
structure
was
originally
located
at
815
South
Rome
Avenue
and
was
moved
within
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district
to
910
South
Fremont
Avenue.
This
was
a
house
that
was
built,
Circa
1923
and
the
excuse
me
Dutch
colonial
revival,
architectural
style
you're
here
this
morning,
under
the
what
our
code
provides
for
your
powers
and
duties
to
review
designations
of
contributing
status
and
changes
in
status.
K
When
requested
to
do
so
by
an
applicant,
we
have
received
an
application
from
the
property
owner.
She
changed
the
status
back
to
contributing
in
this
case.
So
therefore,
we
look
at
section
27-261,
which
gives
us
the
criteria
to
review
such
applications
and
this
criteria
to
be
applied
by
you
in
approving
or
not
approving
the
application
to
exchange
the
contributing
status
is
set
forth
under
National
register.
Bulletin
number
15.,
so
I'll
be
going
over
those
criteria
as
we
move
through
the
presentation.
K
Thank
you
so
showing
you.
The
here
is
the
the
1931
Sanborn
map
of
this
section
of
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district.
The
815
South
Rome
Avenue
is
outlined
in
green
for
you
and
it
was
relocated
to
the
site.
That's
shown
outlined
in
red
at
910,
South
Fremont
Avenue,
and
you
can
see
that
at
that
time,
that
was
a
vacant
lot
on
the
site
on
Fremont.
This
is
the
2022
aerial
map,
again
with
the
the
original
site
at
815,
South
ruins
shown
in
green
and
the
relocation
site
at
910
Fremont
shown
in
red.
K
At
this
time
there
was
a
building
two
buildings
actually
located
on
the
site,
a
non-contributing
primary
structure
and
a
contributing
accessory
structure,
which
is
a
little
unusual,
but
the
Arc
reviewed
this
application
and
did
make
the
approval
to
relocate
this
this
building
and
to
demolish
the
existing
non-contributing
primary
structure
on
the
site
while
retaining
the
contributing
accessory
structure.
K
The
picture
on
the
right
shows
the
building
after
it
had
been
reassembled
on
the
site,
but
you
can
still
see
the
sort
of
the
lines
in
the
building
from
where
it
was
cut
up
into
different
different
pieces
to
be
moved
on.
The
pictures
on
this
slide
we're
seeing
the
house
as
it
was
being
rehabilitated
in
2021
on
the
bottom
left
and
then
on
the
right
and
how
it
looked
following
the
rehabilitation
in
2023.
K
K
The
1988
Hyde
Park
historic
district,
local
designation
report
at
the
time
that
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district
was
adopted
by
ordinance
by
the
city
of
Tampa,
section
43a-154
of
the
city's
code
laid
out
the
criteria
for
designation
and
for
a
historic
district,
and
it's
the
period
of
significance
needed
to
be
greater
than
50
years.
So
at
that
time,
the
period
of
significance
for
the
historic
district
was
found
to
be
1886
to
1933.
K
The
the
historic
district
met
Criterion,
one
that
its
character
was
had
a
geographically
definable
area
possessing
a
significant
concentrations
of
buildings
that
are
well
designed
and
other
structures,
sites
and
objects
United
by
past
events
or
by
a
plan
or
physical
development,
and
also
at
met
Criterion
two
that
its
character
as
an
established
and
geographical
Define.
A
geographically
definable,
neighborhood
United
by
culture,
architectural
Styles
or
physical
development.
K
K
National
registered
Criterion
B
was
found
to
be
met
that
there
were
associations
with
the
lives
of
persons
important
in
our
past
and
criterions,
see
that
embodied
that
the
district
embodied
the
distinctive
characteristics
of
a
tight
period,
method
of
construction
that
represent
the
work
of
a
master
that
possess
High
artistic
values
or
that
represent
a
significant
and
distinguishable
entity
whose
components
May
lack
individual
distinction.
And
it's
that
last
part
there
that
really
refers
to
Historic
districts.
K
Our
staff
recommendation
is
that
910,
South,
Fremont
Avenue
meets
the
application
criteria
of
our
code
and
the
criteria
found
in
National
register
bulletin
15.
That
is
a
historic
resource
that
maintains
the
character
and
integrity
of
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district.
Therefore,
staff
recommends
approval
of
this
request
to
design
redesignate
the
status
of
this
building.
That's
contributing
and
recommends
the
amendment
of
The
Hyde,
Park
historic
district
building
inventory
with
that
I
believe
the
agent
for
the
owner
is
here
this
morning
and
can
come
forward
and
provide
additional
information.
Thank
you.
L
Good
morning,
Truett
Gardner
400,
North,
Ashley
Drive
here
on
behalf
of
John
and
Susan
Tustin.
This
has
been
a
three
and
a
half
year,
Journey
that
we
have
walked
along
with
Elaine
and
Dennis
and
his
team
and
we're
honored
to
present
this
redesignation.
This
house
is
100
years
old
and
it's
sat
kind
of
at
the
the
edge
of
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district,
which
had
intensified
over
time
so
100
year
old
house.
It
really
had
been
neglected.
L
It's
been
painstakingly
restored,
as
Elaine
pointed
out
for
the
next
hundred
years
and
so
honored
to
present
this
for
redesignation,
just
to
add
a
little
bit
of
color
to
26
27
261,
which
refers
to
National
register
bulletin
15
and,
in
particular
a
b
and
c.
As
mentioned,
the
house
was
built
around
1923,
which
is
100
years
old
and
also
within
Hyde
Park's
period
of
significance
and
then
secondly,
B,
which
is
the
properties
associated
with
the
lives,
a
person
significant.
L
In
our
past,
the
house
was
built
by
Herbert
Draper,
who
was
the
manager
of
Triumph
coffee
Mills.
He
lived
there
with
his
wife
Blanche
until
the
house
was
purchased
by
James
G
and
Charlotte
Yates
in
1926.
Mr
Yates
was
Act,
was
an
active
local
businessman
and
politician
having
sort
of
served
three
terms
as
the
mayor
of
Port,
Tampa,
City
and
two
terms,
the
chairman
of
the
Hillsborough
County
Commission
and
then
finally
criteria
C.
L
K
The
usually,
when
we
look
at
our
designation
criteria,
we're
looking
for
how
it
relates
to
under
National
register
Bolton
15
for
this.
So
that
gets
to
be
a
little
different
between
the
what
the
between
the
area
of
significance
for
the
district
overall,
where
that.
G
K
B
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this
project,
seeing
none
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
offer
up
a
conversation
to
the
Commissioners
and
or
emotion.
C
I
move
to
redesignate
the
property
located
at
9
10
South
Fremont
Avenue
as
a
contributing
structure
and
amend
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district
building,
inventory
and
map,
because
the
application
does
meet
the
criteria
established
in
the
National
register.
Bulletin
15.
for
the
following
reasons:
a
property
associated
with
the
events
that
have
made
a
significant
contribution.
I
Once
again,
good
morning,
Commissioners
Dennis
Fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager.
During
our
last
hearing
on
March
the
21st,
there
was
some
discussion
about
the
local
Landmark
structure,
the
Jackson
house,
which
is
located
at
851
East
Zack
Street,
and
there
was
a
request
for
an
update
on
the
preservation
efforts
for
that
particular
structure.
Was
this
going
to
begin
prior
to
the
update
just
with
a
little
orientation
for
individuals
who
may
not
be
as
familiar
with
that
particular
structure?
I
could
go
to
here?
We
go
the
PowerPoint
for
a
moment.
I
So
the
Jackson
house
is
situated
downtown
on
851
Zach
Street,
that
is
just
off
of
Nebraska
Avenue.
You
can
see
the
proximity
to
the
Tampa
Union
Station.
This
is
just
off
to
the
east,
from
the
Jackson
House
Jackson
house
was
a
segregation
era.
Boarding
house
and
much
of
its
occupancy
resulted
from
the
Jim
Crow
laws
that
were
in
place
during
its
period
And.
The
fact
that
the
segregated
residency
for
occupants
had
to
occur
between
racial
divides
and
this
particular
boarding
house
catered
to
the
black
community
at
that
time.
I
Just
some
facts
that
was
established
in
1899
by
Moses
Jackson
and
it
remained
in
the
Jackson
family,
the
Jackson
Robinson
family,
until
it
was
eventually
transferred
to
the
Jackson
house
foundation
in
2014,
of
which
the
Robinson
family
remains
active.
The
Jackson
Robinson
finally
remains
active
on
that
particular
Foundation
was
designated
as
a
city
of
Tampa
local
landmark
in
2004,
and
it
was
listed
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places
in
2007
for
ethnic
hair
Heritage
for
the
black
history
of
the
city.
I
See
some
of
the
photos
and
the
condition
of
the
structure.
In
recent
years
the
the
house
has
fallen
into
disrepair.
There
is
a
structural
system
interior
to
the
house
that
was
funded
through
a
grant
by
the
Tampa
Bay
Lightning
to
the
Jackson
house
foundation
that
essentially
somewhat
stabilized
the
deterioration,
but
obviously
the
exterior
deterioration
is
is
fairly
dramatic.
I
And
with
that
I'm
going
to
invite
Elise
drumko,
who
is
the
city's
Deputy
Administrator
for
development
and
Economic
Opportunity
to
the
podium
and
he'll,
provide
an
update
for
you?
Thank
you.
M
Good
morning
Commissioners
Elise
drumko,
Deputy
Administrator
for
development
and
Economic
Opportunity,
as
staff
mentioned,
you
know
the
Jackson
house
we've
been
working
on
this
now
for
several
years,
I
would
say,
and
also
doubling
as
your
as
part
of
the
Redevelopment
agency
I've
been
working
on
this
project
as
well.
So
just
for
your
background
information
we've
been
discussing
and
negotiating
the
potential
easement
and
fire
separation
for
the
site
in
order
to
support
the
preservation
of
the
Jackson
house.
M
This
Thursday,
we
do
have
several
items
on
the
city
council
agenda
that
are
related
to
a
grant
to
support
the
restoration
of
the
Jackson
house.
That
Grant
is
a
total
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
be
paid
over
two
years
and
the
city
and
City
staff
will
support
the
administration
of
that
Grant.
So
we
have
to
create
that
mechanism
for
the
city
to
do
that.
M
In
an
agreement
between
the
city
and
the
Jackson
house
foundation
supported
through
the
state
to
receive
those
funds
to
be
able
to
administer
those
over
the
two-year
period
and
it's
set
up
so
that
there
will
be
four
payments
through
to
the
foundation
over
the
course
of
that
two-year
period
for
Progress
payments.
So
that'll
take
us
through
the
initial
construction
documents
through
30
60
and
then
100
percent
plant
set
through
completion.
B
D
Greetings:
Mr
Durango.
Thank
you
so
much
for
working
with
this
project.
We
know
that
the
Jackson
house
is
just
not
a
boarding
house
or
a
little
house.
This
was
a
place
that
African
Americans
could
go
to
when
they
had
nowhere
else
to
go
so
I'm
excited
that
the
city
has
come
together
with
funds
to
hopefully
get
this
project
restored
as
quickly
as
possible.
Looking
at
the
pictures
that
staff
showed
it's
great
to
see
what
has
happened,
but
the
current
condition
of
the
house.
D
I'm
scared,
you
know
storm
season
is
hurricane
season
is
very
close
and
I
went
by
there.
Sunday
and
I
was
actually
scared
to
stand
on
the
sidewalk,
because
pieces
were
falling
down
so
hopefully
soon
we
can
come
back
with
updates
so
that
the
home
can
be
stabilizing.
Eventually,
it
can
be
turned
into
a
place
where
there
is
Museum
and
the
history
is
shown
throughout
that
area,
because
not
only
is
the
Jackson
house
a
part
of
the
just
that
street,
but
is
a
part
of
a
community
that
plays
into
Encore
in
other
areas
down
Nebraska.
D
So,
thank
you
again
for
your
contributions
and
hopefully
soon
the
Jackson
house
foundation
can
come
in
and
give
an
update
on
what
they're
working
on,
even
if
they
need
community
support,
because
there
is
Community
Support
there.
But
there
is
no
way
that
the
community
can
get
in
contact
with
Jackson
foundation.
So
if
there
is
any
information
that
could
be
provided
for
volunteer
or
any
other
organizations
that
would
like
to
pair
I
would
hope
that
we
can
have
some
information
available.
M
Thank
you
and
I,
hear
you
loud
and
clear.
It
sounds
like
you
do
want
to
hear
from
the
foundation
itself
as
well,
and
so
you
know,
as
we've
negotiated
between
the
private
property
owner
and
the
foundation,
you
know
our
goal
towards
the
end
of
it
once
we
do
reach.
That
resolution
is
to
bring
back
the
update
and
then
also
to
appropriately,
you
know,
share
via
the
Press
like
what
we
how
we
intend
to
get
to
the
end
game
on
the
preservation
and
what
that
timeline
may
be.
Thank
you.
I.
F
Have
one
more
comment
good
morning
and
thank
you
for
the
update
and
I
think
we
would
all
like
to,
as
the
commissioner
said,
continue
to
be
brought
up
to
speed.
I
have
two
questions
or
comments.
The
first
one
is
I.
Guess
I
have
a
concern,
just
in
general
that
the
only
stabilization
has
been
not
the
only,
but
the
primary
stabilization
has
been
for
the
structural
Integrity
on
the
inside.
F
So
that's
just
a
general
comment
about
that,
and
then
the
second
one
is
are
the
easements
needed
in
order
to
because
I
see
the
chain
link
fence,
which
is
very
close
into
the
side
of
the
property
of
the
building?
Is
that
what
the
purpose
of
the
easements
are
is
to
basically
gain
access
so
that
the
restoration
work
can
be
performed
well.
M
So
there's
a
there
are
a
combination
of
factors,
there's
the
easement
for
the
the
actual
construction,
so
there
will
be
need
to
be
a
temporary
construction
easement
to
allow
for
the
access
the
staging
for
the
actual
restoration,
but
then
there's
also
some
long-term
easement
to
allow
for
the
continued
preservation
of
the
structure
itself
so
for
us
I
think
we're
all
on
the
same
page
about
the
temporary
construction
easement,
it's
relative
to
the
long-term
post
and
and
what
that,
what
amount
of
space
needs
to
be
provided
to
the
house
and
how
we
achieve
that.
M
C
M
For
the
house
itself,
yeah
it's
my
understanding
that
it
you
know
it's.
It's
like
almost
like
a
museum
right
is
what
what
the
intent
is
is
to
preserve
and
to
allow
for
folks
to
flow
and
circulate
through
the
facility
to
see
and
engage
with
the
history.
Thank.
A
B
I
D
Like
to
make
a
motion
to
open
item,
both
nine
and
ten
and
combine
for
commissioners.
K
These
items
are
HBC
202303
and
202304
for
the
Johnson
Brothers
houses,
which
are
two
buildings
located
at
20,
I'm,
sorry,
1248
and
1250
East,
Scott
Street.
K
You
can
see
on
your
screen
here
the
pictures
of
the
current
conditions
of
the
two
structures,
12
48,
I,
believe
being
on
your
left
and
12.50
on
your
right.
K
The
standard
of
review
is
also
found
in
the
code
under
Section
27
257,
which
is
what
you
will
use
to
make.
Your
recommendation
to
city
council
and
I
will
review
that
section
of
the
code
as
we
go
through
the
presentation.
K
The
photo
you're
looking
at
here
is
of
a
portion
of
Tampa
known
as
the
scrub,
which
largely
no
longer
exists
in
such
form
that
you
see
here.
The
building
that
is
remaining
is
the
church
that
you
can
see
in
this
picture,
and
that
is
the
St
James
Episcopal
Church
on
North
Governor
Street.
K
The
historic
Central
Avenue
area,
slash
African-American
Heritage
sites.
Multiple
property
listing
currently
includes
buildings
that
are
substantial
structures
that
were
important
in
the
daily
life
of
this
neighborhood
and
to
Tampa's
black
community
and
the
early
part
of
the
20th
century.
These
were
substantial
structures
made
out
of
brick
as
opposed
to
the
wood
frame
structures
that
surrounded
them.
K
K
So
today
we're
looking
at
these
two
houses
on
East
Scott
Street.
This
is
the
current
aerial
map
of
the
property
they're,
located
on
the
same
parcel,
same
property
parcel
and
under
the
same
ownership,
currently
open
space.
Acquisitions
LLC,
which
of
which
the
Tampa
Housing
Authority
is
the
the
sole
member.
K
So
this
is
the
it's
not
surprising
that
they
show
up
on
the
1903
map
as
it's
the
first
one
available
in
the
area
at
the
time
clearly
did
not
cover
all
of
the
scrub,
and
we
can
see
on
the
later
map
the
1915
one
that
the
area
that
was
known
as
The
Scrub,
which
is
in
this
area,
south
of
about
south
of
K
Street
between
Nebraska
and
between
Central
Avenue,
which
you
don't
see
on
this
map.
K
But
you
see
governor
on
the
west
and
then
Cass
Street
to
the
to
the
very
south
there
Zach
and
Cass
streets,
but
you
do
see
the
density
of
the
housing
in
this
neighborhood.
There
were
a
lot
of
smaller
tight
wood
frame
houses,
some
larger
houses
that
were
possibly
boarding,
houses
or
Apartments.
K
Some
wood
frame
churches
in
this
area.
At
that
time,
the
the
the
brick
churches
were
built
generally
a
little
bit
later
and
occasionally
you'll
see
a
small
wood
frame,
store
or
other
sort
of
retail
shop
or
a
restaurant.
K
One
of
Tampa's
largest
early
black
neighborhoods,
the
scrub,
began
in
the
late
19th
century
as
a
small
settlement
supplying
houses
for
nearby
lumber
mill
workers.
It
was
on
the
outskirts
of
downtown
Tampa
kind
of
far
removed
from
the
area
that
was
originally
protected
by
the
fort
Brook.
K
Studies
from
the
1920s,
such
as
the
study
of
negro
life
in
Tampa
and
by
the
Tampa
Urban
League,
the
Tampa
Welfare
League,
and
the
YMCA,
and
the
1930s
by
the
federal
writers
projects
give
us
some
glimpses
of
the
daily
life
in
this
neighborhood.
The
houses
were
described
as
tightly
packed
together,
the
streets
were
not
paved,
they
were
dirt
roads.
You
will
see
frequently
lines
of
laundry
hanging
in
the
streets
for
the
women
who
took
in
washing
for
work.
This
was
at
a
time
when
Child
Care
was
not
readily
available
and
especially
for
black
families.
K
K
Excuse
me,
the
Central
Avenue
business
district
grew
up
along
the
edge
of
the
western
edge
of
the
scrub.
At
this
time.
State
and
local
laws
ensured
that
racial
segregation
was
legally
enforceable
is
ensuring
that
the
black
people
and
the
City
of
Tampa
could
not
attend
white
churches
or
schools
or
shop
at
their
businesses,
use
their
same
public
facilities
or
even
be
buried
in
the
same
cemeteries.
K
Some
of
the
businesses
that
grew
up
along
the
edge
of
the
scrub
and
this
Central
Avenue
business
districts
were
cigar
companies
which
provided
employment.
Businesses
such
as
the
area's
first
black
dentist
office,
a
drugstore
which
opened
in
1913
the
drug
store
on
Central
Avenue
and
clarifies
Hospital
on
Lamar
Avenue
they're.
Also,
this
was
the
area
where
several
of
the
local,
black,
fraternities
or
fraternal
organizations
were
born,
including
the
Odd
Fellows
Hall.
K
At
that
time,
it
was
impossible
for
a
group
of
African
Americans
to
get
a
charter
for
many
of
the
white,
fraternal
organizations.
So
many
of
the
black
fraternal
organizations
were
independent
of
completely
independent
of
the
the
white,
fraternal
organizations.
K
During
the
1920s
land
boom
and
in
the
following
years,
Central
Avenue
and
the
business
district
surrounded
it
continued
to
thrive.
You
see
here,
A
Street,
shot
of
Central
Avenue
in
the
1960s.
K
K
Was
advertised
in
the
Negro
Blue
Book,
it
was
a
well-known
establishment
in
which
people
could
stay
when
they
were
in
the
city
of
Tampa.
Other
businesses
that
grew
up
in
this
area
were
like
the
central
life
insurance
company,
which
was
founded
by
GD
Rogers.
He
was
a
very
successful
local
entrepreneur,
Dr
Jacob
white
senior,
whose
house
we
have
listed,
is
one
of
our
locally
designated
landmarks.
K
Had
his
doctor's
office
on
Central
and
Scott,
and
you
know
the
community
succeeded
and
the
success
provided
a
a
sense
of
community
on
from
which
several
organizations
like
the
Tampa
Urban
League
were
founded
and
the
Harlem
branch
of
the
Tampa
Library
grew
out
of
the
same
building
as
the
Tampa
Urban
League
on
Marion
Street
the
helping
hand
day
Nursery
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
Child
Care
was
an
issue,
so
that
was
a
organization
that
was
founded
through
the
Urban
League
to
provide
daycare.
K
And
the
churches,
as
were
previously
mentioned,
when
many
of
which
had
started
out
with
no
structure
were
being
built
in
in
the
brick
and
which
showed
their
success
and
permanence,
of
the
not
only
the
structures
themselves,
but
also
the
congregations
in
the
community.
K
Thank
you.
The
1950s
and
60s
were
a
very
difficult
time
for
this
neighborhood
with
urban
renewal.
With
our
unrest,
there
were
several
riots
in
the
60s
following
the
shooting
of
a
teenage
boy
in
this
neighborhood,
and
this
led
to
a
dramatic
change
in
in
the
fabric
of
the
neighborhood
in
the
50s
Architects
Franklin
of
Adams
and
Frank
partiale
designed
Central
Park
Village,
which
was
a
low
rent
complex
intended
to
transform
the
scrub,
which
was
then
seen.
As
you
know,
a
a
neighborhood
that
was
targeted
by
by
urban
renewal
and
housing.
K
The
Tampa
Housing
Authority
built
this
complex
with
57
residential
units
and
only
a
few
houses
that
were
north
of
Scott
Street
were
to
remain.
You
can
see
the
change
here
as
we
look
at
the
the
1957
aerial
map
of
the
area
and
the
Johnson
Brothers
houses
are
still
shown
there
in
red
just
north
of
directly
north
of
you
can
see
the
the
barracks
style
housing
project
there,
these
two
houses.
K
Interestingly,
we
find
them
listed
in
the
1950
U.S
census,
and
one
of
them
was
occupied
at
the
time
by
Johnny
Johnson
and
his
family.
Mr
Johnson
worked
for
a
railroad
company
and
he
lived
with
his
wife
Luella
and
a
couple
of
Lodgers
that
they
had
in
the
house.
K
The
the
sorry
the
Central
Park
Village
housing
area
was
targeted
for
community
redevelopment
by
the
city
in
June
of
2006.
They
developed
the
plan
for
the
Central
Park
community
redevelopment
area,
the
measures
that
were
included
in
this
Redevelopment
plan,
including
the
raising
of
the
the
housing
project,
the
redesign
of
Perry,
Harvey
senior
Park
and
the
construction
of
a
mixed-use
community,
including
affordable
and
market
rate
Apartments,
and
you
can
see
the
construction
that
has
occurred
pretty
much
to
date.
In
this
aerial
photograph.
K
Here
are
some
of
the
the
photos
of
the
art
within
the
Perry
Harvey
senior
Park.
It's
various
representations,
some
of
the
life
in
the
scrub
and
some
of
the
murals
and
believe
the
mural
on
the
the
bottom
left,
and
forgive
me
for
not
knowing
all
the
media
the
art
here,
but
that
particular
mural
represents
the
life
of
the
scrub,
the
Central
Avenue
Heyday
shown
and
the
photo
in
the
top
right
and
there's
a
history
walk
that
winds
throughout
the
neighborhood
or
sorry
throughout
the
park.
K
So
these
two
houses
that
we're
here
to
talk
about
today
are
frame
vernacular
houses,
very
simple,
rectangular
and
plan
and
have
a
Gable
front
roof
and
double
hung
wood,
sash
windows
which
are
still
intact.
They
feature
some
wood,
Corner
born
and
trim,
but
very
little
ornamentation.
Otherwise,
aside
from
the
jigsaw
cut
detailing
that
you
see
on
the
the
porch
columns,
there.
K
When
we
look
at
the
criteria
in
section
27,
257
of
our
code,
that
speaks
to
whether
or
not
buildings
are
should
be
considered
for
landmark
designation.
First,
we
have
to
consider
whether
they've
achieved
significance
between
During
the
period
of
of
historic
significance,
which
is
generally
taken
to
be
of
at
least
50
years
old,
and
as
these
buildings
were
thought
to
be
constructed
around
1900.
They
definitely
meet
that
particular
Criterion.
K
Other
criteria
that
our
code
lists
in
section
27
257,
are
whether
the
buildings
are
associated
with
events
that
have
made
a
significant
contribution
to
the
broad
patterns
of
our
history,
which
is
also
National
register.
Criterion
a
and
we
feel
that
staff
feels
that
these
buildings
do
meet
this
in
the
area
of
community
planning
and
development,
and
also
staff
feels
that
the
buildings
meet
the
Criterion
found
in
section
27,
257,
A2,
that
these
buildings
are
associated
with
the
lives
of
persons
significant
in
our
past
and
the
area
of
ethnic
history.
K
And
also
that
these
particular
buildings
under
a23
embody
the
distinctive
type,
distinctive
characteristics
of
a
type
of
architecture,
and
that
they
are
examples
of
the
frame
vernacular
structures
that
were
found
throughout
the
the
scrub
area.
In
fact,
they
are
the
only
remaining
examples
that
we
have
of
these
buildings
in
this
neighborhood,
the
historic
Central
Avenue
African-American
Heritage
sites.
Multiple
property
listing
is
locally
significant
under
Criterion
a
and
the
area
of
community
Planning,
Development
and
Criterion
B
and
the
area
of
African-American
ethnicity
and
these
buildings.
K
That
remain
are
the
few
that
we
have
left
that
represent
an
enclave
that
formed
among
the
African-American
Community,
starting
as
early
as
the
turn
of
the
century.
K
K
K
So
stop
finds
at
this
property
meets
the
criteria
for
local
Historic,
Landmark
designation,
and
our
recommendation
is
that
you
determine
to
recommend
this
property
for
to
city
council
for
local
Historic,
Landmark
designation.
So,
as
Dennis
stated,
even
though
we
have
opened
both
of
these
items
together,
we
are
requesting
two
two
motions,
one
for
1248,
East,
Scott
Street
and
one
for
1250
East
Scott
Street
this
morning.
So
would
that
the
agent
and
a
representative
from
the
Housing
Authority
are
here
this
morning
to
speak
and
I'm
available.
If
you
have
questions,
thank
you.
H
Excuse
me
Madam
chair,
if
you
just
allow
the
agent
to
give
her
she's
here,
she's
here,
to
give
her.
J
Hello,
I'm
Stephanie,
Farrell
and
I'm
the
agent
for
this
Landmark
designation
process
and
representing
the
ownership
and,
of
course
the
owners
of
the
owners
are
also
here
represented
by
David,
Hollis
and
Rosanna,
and
Paul
Johnson
a
former
owner,
so
they
are
present
as
well.
So
I
will
just
make
my
comments
brief,
to
say
that
to
thank
Elaine
for
what
I
see
to
be
a
very
complete
report
and
I'm
I'm
impressed
with
the
with
the
with
the
research
that
that
has
been
done
and
and
shows
these
buildings
in
light
of
their
historic
and
Community
context.
J
So
we
would
could
concur.
I
would
concur
as
there
as
the
historic
preservation
consultant
for
this
project
and
agree
with
with
the
staff
recommendations
in
terms
of
the
the
national
register
criteria
being
met
for
this
project
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
David
or
to
to
just
or
Mr
Johnson.
First,
okay,
excellent
and
then
I
can
answer
questions
about
the
future
use
of
the
property
as
well.
N
Good
morning,
it's
good
to
be
here,
I
appreciate,
thank.
N
N
My
name
Paul
Johnson
I'm,
my
name
Paul
Johnson
I
live
in
Plant,
City
I,
don't
live
on
Scott
Street
anymore
I
finally
sold
my
heart,
and
it
was
a
battle
with
my
family
and
my
kids
because
they
said
right
now.
I'm
I'm,
coming
in
to
talk
with
y'all
and
I
come
to
get
him
to
come
because
they
stayed
there.
They
should
have
stayed
there,
not
even
want
to
designate
the
houses
when
you
leave.
So
you
know
I'm.
Listening
to
that,
she
had
a
beautiful
presentation.
She
needed
to
write
a
book.
N
I
could
I
could
tell
her
some
things.
You
know.
I
can
tell
a
lot
of
y'all
some
things.
My
father
grew
up
in
the
school,
the
almost
right
there,
where
the
house
at
my
grandmother
she
moved
on
Fifth
Avenue.
She
lived
on
across
Fifth
Avenue
and
22nd
Street.
Behind
my
Columbia
Restaurant
I
had
an
aunt
doing
the
time
married
a
Horseman
name
was
Noriega
I.
Don't
want
to
get
into
a
lot
of
detail
about
names
and
whatever,
but
you
know
it
was
the
battle.
It
was
a
fight.
N
You
know
so
I
figured
my
heart
was
a
small
woman.
She
married
a
man
whatever
he
was
into
the
cigars
or
whatever
Evo
it
did.
But
my
father
come
from
the
squirrel
and,
like
the
young
lady
said
here,
you
know
when
the
urban
renewal
come
in.
He
went
crazy
about
it
because
he
said
they
just
taking
us
they're,
taking
all
we
own
and
all
our
communities.
So
you
know
the
to
tell
my
housing.
You
know
situations,
he
won.
N
He
my
brother
passed
now,
but
he
wasn't
crazy
about
Tampa
Housing
because
he
picked
it
up
for
my
father
saying.
Well,
they
coming
and
they
take
it
again
because
my
father
went
through
this.
You
know
and-
and
he
won
too
Keen
of
it,
but
a
center
part
when
they
build
them.
They
called
him
the
projects.
So
he
said
they
called
him
in
the
projects
because
they
want
to
see
it's
an
experiment.
N
Do
you
want
to
get
out
or
do
you
want
to
stay
there?
You
understand
some
people
come
up
in
the
project.
They
stay
forever.
Some
got
out.
I
went
to
school
with
some
people,
I,
don't
name,
but
they
doctors.
Now
they
lawyers.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
I,
don't
think
the
judges
of
nothing,
but
you
know
and
I'm
just
listening
at
her
about
the
area
and
my
father
was
lucky
I
would
say
he
was
blessed
to
work
with
the
railroad
because
he
made
good
money.
You
know
back
then
the
longshoreman
they
was
almost.
N
If
you
black,
that's
top
dollar
job
you
can
have.
So
he
was
a
railroad
man.
He
made
good
money
and
I
remember
going
to
Harbor
Island.
Now
at
one
Harbor
Island
it
was
southern
island.
I
know,
y'all,
know
your
history,
I
hope
some
of
you
do
because
I
I
live
in
Tampa.
All
my
life,
the
young
lady,
spoke
I'm.
Listening
y'all
did
y'all
know
where
the
first
Saint
Joseph
Hospital
y'all,
know
where
he's
on
Seventh
Avenue.
Before
you
get
the
floor,
y'all
knew
that
I
went
there
just
walking
by.
N
We
couldn't
go
to
the
hospital,
but
it
was
nons
and
Priests.
They
was
governed
that
hospital.
You
know
when
I
was
a
little
boy.
I
come
up
and
I
went
through
the
rides.
The
the
guy
that
got
shot
started,
the
rides,
I
didn't
witness
it,
but
I
was
there.
I
was
ended,
marching
in
the
whatever
the
crest
I
mean.
N
Tampa
got
a
lot
of
history
and
y'all
going
through
it
and
I'm
gonna
come
in
y'all
I
could
stand
and
talk
to
you
all
day
about
a
lot
of
things,
but
the
lightning
I
don't
know
if
y'all
know
this,
neither
but
down
with
the
or
Amelia
Arena
there's
a
lot
of
black
people
back
there.
A
lot
of
people
y'all
knew
that
too
right.
Okay,
my
father
said
you
know
why.
M
N
Put
us
down
here,
because
when
the
hurricane
season
come
the
river
flood,
we
the
one
got
to
get
out.
Okay.
If
my
brother
was
living
here
now,
he'll
say
y'all,
taking
it
back
now
before
y'all
put
us
down
here,
because
y'all
didn't
want
to
live
scared
of
the
water,
the
dangers,
the
Hurricanes,
the
floods.
You
hear
what
I'm
saying
and
them
houses
would
build
up
off
the
ground.
My
daddy
said
if
it
flew
at
least
we
got
its
hand,
because,
if
you're
not
sitting
on
the
ground,
it
made
sense
to
me.
N
You
know:
I
grew
up
in
that
house
60
something
years
and
I
don't
care
if
the
hurricane
was
coming
or
what
was
going
on.
I
wasn't
moving,
because
if
it
stood
a
hundred
and
something
years
it's
going
to
be
there
longer
than
I
live.
My
father
gone.
My
mother
gone
I'm,
the
last
of
four
children,
so
I
appreciate
y'all
I
really
do
and
thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity.
J
Thank
you,
Mr
Johnson
do
the
the
owners
that
the
ownership
wanted
to
speak
to
this
project
at
all.
O
A
O
Construction
trailer
right
there
at
the
corner
of
Nebraska
and
Scott
when
we
started
to
bring
Encore
back
and
I'm,
really
not
going
to
talk
about
the
history,
because
everything
I
learned
about
the
history
of
that
neighborhood
I
learned
on
that
man's
front,
porch,
so
or
or
actually
hanging
over
the
fence.
So
it
was.
O
It
was
just
a
privilege
to
actually
meet
some
of
the
local
history
that
we
have
to
maintain
here
in
Tampa
for
people
to
know,
there's
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
that
are
second
generation
Tampa
people
that
I
know
who
just
don't
know
that
piece
of
history
and
it's
an
amazing
piece
of
History,
the
Apollo
dance
club,
the
joiners,
the
Cozy
Corner,
all
that
stuff
that
went
on
on
Central
Avenue
when
we
redeveloped
Central
Park
Village
and
turned
it
into
the
Encore.
O
O
Also,
we
named
one
of
our
streets,
Blanche
Armwood,
Hank
Ballard
and
the
midnighters,
so
we
wanted
to
maintain
that
history.
By
naming
that
stuff,
we
maintained
the
St
James
Episcopal
church
and
that's
actually,
we
just
formed
a
partnership
with
the
Tampa
History
Museum
and
that
building
is
now
going
to
be.
We
think
Tampa's.
We
aim
that
it
would
be
Tampa's,
Premier,
African-American,
cultural
Museum,
so
that
history
is
important.
The
Johnson
Brothers
house
is
important
that
the
Johnson
building
houses
are
the
end
of
the
scrub.
O
J
Thank
you
David.
Let
me
just
say
that
the
future
of
the
houses,
the
ownership,
has
hired
Gerald
McCants
architecture
to
do
to
prepare
historic
preservation,
Rehabilitation
drawings,
for
the
for
the
two
houses.
Those
are
those
that
work
is
under
underway.
J
The
intention
is
for
the
for
the
owner
to
apply
for
the
historic
ad
valorem
exemption
and
and
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
the
long-term
use
of
the
of
the
property,
as
at
least
is
currently
proposed,
is
for
those
houses
to
go
back
into
private
ownership
as
residences,
and
so
that
ad
valorem
exemption
would
be
helpful
to
a
future
owner
in
terms
of
of
helping
to
make
those
that
ownership
affordable.
So
those
are
the
the
next
steps.
J
B
No
I
would
like
to
ask
if
there
is
any
public
comment
seeing
none.
We
will
now
close
the
public
hearing
and
ask
Commissioners
for
their
comments
and
or
questions
of
the
staff
or
the
ownership
or
the
agent.
C
E
Oh
I,
second,
that
that
was
a
great
presentation
and
I
think
it's
it's
really
important,
even
juxtaposed
the
the
current
housing
there
and
then
the
former
housing
in
the
same
place,
and
to
see
that
they're,
the
last
two
houses
left
on
the
row.
It's
like
anchors
it
and
it
shows
like
wow.
There
used
to
be
multiple
of
these
houses
in
this
area
and
look
how
how
much
has
changed
so
it
actually
shows
preserving
these
two
homes
actually
shows
like
the
progression
of
the
area
over
time,
just
because
of
where
they
are
too
and
I'm.
E
Just
I'm
super
grateful
that
you
guys
chose
to
keep
it
without
it
being
like.
You
know,
erased
and
then
there's
no
more
at
all
whatsoever
and
there's
no
history.
There
we
wouldn't
know
what
was
there
before.
If
it
wasn't,
you
know
if
we
didn't,
if
you
guys
didn't,
take
action
so
just
super
grateful
and
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
F
Yes,
I
again
incredible
presentation
and
and
I
have
to
say
that
that
has
been
my
experience
with
the
historic
preservation
department
at
the
city
of
Tampa.
You
all
do
an
amazing
amount
of
research
and
background
and
present
it
in
a
way.
That's
very
digestible,
so
I,
just
in
general,
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
that
you
all
do
to
make
this
something
that
we
can
discuss
and
take
action
on.
So
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
you're
you're,
a
microphone.
Can
you
hear
me
now
all
right?
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
the
Johnson
Brother
house,
and
that
area
means
a
lot
to
me,
adjacent
from
that
property
on
Scott
Street,
my
grandmother
attends
Mount,
Mariah
and
also
on
the
weekend
I
shop
at
the
local
Garden
down
at
the
other
end
of
Scott
Street
that
I'm
so
happy
that
some
of
the
property
has
been
exchanged
of
two
things
that
are
of
substance.
D
You
know
that
area,
it
is
still
a
housing
area
and
those
type
of
things
need
to
be
intricated
back
into
the
area.
So
I'm
again,
the
Housing
Authority
I've
worked
with
you
all
before
from
process
of
actually
being
in
housing
and
seeing
what
that
area
has
looked
like
into
what
it
is
today
and
for
the
the
Johnson
house,
both
of
those
homes
to
still
be
there
and
the
shape
that
is
in
and
to
know
that
this
will
be
put
back
into
the
community
for
housing.
D
D
Johnson
I
appreciate
your
stories
because
the
same
stories
that
you
told
the
same
ones
that
my
great-grandfather
told
he
was
a
part
of
laying
the
brickwork
for
Nebraska
Avenue,
so
I'm
excited
it
that
the
black
history
and
the
African-American
history
is
being
retold
because
all
it
takes
is
for
a
generation
to
forget,
and
it
is
no
more
so
for
those
two
homes
to
still
be
standing
and
to
be
occupied
in
the
future
by
a
family
I'm
grateful
for
that.
So
again,
thank
you.
I
love,
the
the
information
that
has
been
put
together.
D
I'm,
definitely
saving
this
to
have.
Because
again
we
don't
have
pictures.
We
do
not
have
the
Cuban
clubs
to
show
the
things
that
African
Americans
have
contributed
to
to
Tampa,
so
to
be
able
to
see
this
and
to
reproduce
it
so
that
others,
so
that
my
children
and
yours
and
those
in
the
community
can
see
it.
This
is
what
historic
preservation
is
supposed
to
do.
I
appreciate.
N
Your
stories,
I
just
said:
I
got
22
grandchildren,
they
need
to
see
and
they
need
to
know,
because
if
I
don't
tell
them,
they
will
never
realize
it
because,
like
we're
saying
about
this,
racer
turmoil
that
I
would
keep
down
a
lot
of
stuff
to
know
where
we
come
from
and
how
far
we
don't
strive
in
the
things
we
have
accomplished.
Thank
you
so
much
yeah
I
appreciate
it
and
I.
Thank
you
again.
Thank.
D
D
H
Okay,
so
kamaria
Pettis
Mackle
from
the
legal
department,
their
I
understand
that
staff
did
the
presentation
correct.
We
need
two
motions
for
the
different
addresses.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
D
I
would
like
to
make
the
first
motion
for
HPC
20230-04
for
the
property
at
1250.
East
Scott
Street
moved
to
recommend
this
Tampa
City
Council
approve
the
request
to
designate
1250
East
Scott
Street
for
local
Landmark,
designation,
as
in
addition
to
the
historic
Central,
Avenue
African-American
heritage
site,
multiple
property
group,
because
the
application
meets
the
criterias
established
in
the
city
of
Tampa
code.
Section
27-257
for
the
following
reasons
for
a
the
building
site,
structure,
object
or
district
do
I
have
to
go
through
each.
H
A
b
and
c
Maria
Pettis
Mackle
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
I've,
highlighted
the
code
section.
It's
your
role
to
determine
what
criteria
or
or
what
criteria
the
application
meets.
So
as
establishing
code
section,
27,
257,
subsection,
A1,
that's
one
aspect
and
I've
bolded
and
you
have
to
go
through
subsection
two.
If
it's
your
determination
that
it
meets
the
criteria
and
determine
which
criteria
based
upon
the
evidence
that's
been
presented
at
this
public
hearing
which
criteria
this
application
meets,
whether
it's
a
one,
two
criteria,
a
criteria,
B
criteria,
C
or
criteria,
D,
okay,.
I
D
H
From
the
city
attorney's
office,
commissioner
Kopp
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
for
an
adequate
record.
If
you
could
provide
information
in
accordance
to
the
code,
so
it's
again,
I
I
would
encourage
you
to
review
the
sample
motion
that
was
provided
and
you
have
to
state.
Are
you
only
stating
it
meets
Criterion
a?
Are
you
saying
it
meets
Criterion
B?
H
Are
you
stating
in
these
Criterion
c,
the
code
section
is
outlined
in
the
sample
motion
that
you
have
to
follow
through
so
again,
it's
are
you
determining
that
the
application
meets
the
criteria
in
subsection,
A1
and
2
and
then
which
criteria
under
subsection
2?
Does
the
application
meet
okay,.
D
Yes,
I
do
recommend
it.
It's
criteria
a
one
and
two,
and
that
is
what's
construction
and
achieves
in
a
significant
During
the
period
of
historic
significance
and
delineated
in
the
National
Registry
of
historic
places,
guidelines
and
or
established
in
the
nomination.
Pursuant
to
those
guidelines
and
section,
two
has
a
quality
of
significance
in
American
state
or
local
history,
architect,
archeology
engineering
and
culture,
which
is
presented
in
districts,
sites,
building
structures
and
objects
that
possess
Integrity
of
location,
design,
settings,
material,
worksmanship
feelings
and
Association.
That
is,
criteria
a
quaterior,
B
and
criteria.
C.
A
D
B
There
is
an
emotion
and
a
second
on
the
floor.
All
those
in
favor
signify
by
saying
aye
opposed
same
sign
motion
passes
unanimously.
A
H
E
I
make
a
motion
to
recommend
to
City
account
to
city
council
to
approve
the
request
to
designate
12.50.
H
E
48
sorry
12
48
got
it
East
Scott
Street
for
local
Landmark,
designation
as
an
addition
to
the
historic
Central
Avenue
area.
African-American
Heritage
cites
multiple
property
group,
because
the
application
meets
the
criteria
established
in
the
city
of
Tampa
code,
section
2-257
for
the
following
reasons:.
E
For
the
following
reasons,
a
the
building
site,
structure,
object
or
district
one
was
constructed
or
achieved
its
significance,
During
the
period
of
historic
significance
as
delineated
in
the
National
Registry
for
historic
places,
guidelines
or
as
as
established
in
the
nomination
pursuant
to
those
guidelines
and
two.
E
It
has
a
quality
of
significance
in
America
or
an
American
state
or
local
history
architecture,
archeology,
engineering
and
culture,
which
is
present
in
District
sites,
building
structures
and
objects
that
possess
Integrity
of
location,
design,
setting
material
workmanship
feeling
and
Association
a
Criterion
a
that
are
associated
with
events
that
have
made
a
significant
contribution
to
the
broad
patterns
of
our
history.
B
I
Thank
you,
Commissioners
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
really
Express
sincere
appreciation
to
both
Mr
Johnson
for
coming
out
and
for
the
representatives
from
the
Housing
Authority.
This
has
been.
You
know
one
of
my
major
concerns
in
the
area
for
years,
and
it's
so
rewarding
to
see
these
structures
being
preserved
and
being
preserved
in
a
way
that
I
think
are
respectful
to
the
history
of
the
area
and
to
the
Family
itself.
So
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
architect
on
restoring
the
structures
and
bringing
those
back
into
their
original
use.
I
I'll
say
one
one
of
the
first
assignments
yesterday
was
my
22nd
anniversary
with
the
city
of
Tampa,
and
so
one
of
the
first.
Thank
you.
I
I
My
way
around
the
office
at
that
time,
and
they
told
me
that
there
was
a
an
area
where
Perry
Harvey
Park
was
that
was
a
community
and
I
had
never
heard
about
this
and
and
I
started
to
do
research
and
started
to
do
pictorial,
research
and
kind
of
started
coming
across
the
the
pictures
of
what
Central
Avenue
was
and
I
was
astonished
and
I
went
out
to
the
site
and
I
stood
there,
and
one
of
the
most
memorable
parts
of
that
time
was
that
I
I
had
no
I
could
not
determine
a
perspective
on
where
the
area
was
because
it
was
totally
gone.
I
A
lot
of
times.
I
try
to
find
a
landmark
and
position
myself
in
a
photo
kind
of
to
experience
what
that
was
back
in
the
day
and
it
was
gone
and
and
and
started
to
kind
of
get
into
the
research
more
and
talk
to
my
family
members
that
were
from
Tampa
I'm
from
Tampa,
and
my
grandfather
was
actually
a
laundry
delivery
man
and
he
had
accounts
and
in
Central
Avenue
in
the
scrub
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
to
him
a
little
bit
about
it
and
learn
about
it
and
and
understand.
I
You
know
what
the
impact
was
to
that
community
and
and
to
the
city
too,
because
it's
a
city's
loss
and
I
think
we
all
we
all
lose
a
little
bit
of
our
identity
when
we
lose
an
area
like
that,
and
and
so
I
I
really
got
an
appreciation
for
our
existing
historic
resources
and
I
think
it.
It
is
a
lesson
I
learned
about
respecting
the
past
and
trying
to
balance
the
development
of
today
with
with
our
with
our
built
history
of
the
past.
I
So
it's
a
wonderful
I
think
item
to
be
dealing
with
today
and
once
again,
our
sincere
appreciation
as
we
move
this
along.
I
Okay,
so
dealing
with
the
conversation
that
we
had
during
our
May
public
hearing
once
again,
I
wanted
to
provide
a
brief
update
to
the
east,
Tampa
historic
resources
and
Elaine's
going
to
set
me
up
for
this
presentation
here.
I
So
during
our
during
our
previous
hearing,
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
about
the
East
Tampa
neighborhood
and
about
identifying
and
moving
towards
some
type
of
preservation
in
this
initiative
in
in
that
area,
to
both
celebrate
and
recognize
and
protect
the
historic
resources
that
exist
there.
I
So
there's
several
segments
I
think
that
we
we
begin
with
when
we
start
to
contemplate
historic,
designation
in
the
neighborhood
and
and
much
of
that
begins
with
the
research
and
documentation
that
is
necessary
to
both
understand
the
historic
neighborhood
in
the
historic
areas.
The
people
that
that
make
that
area
their
home
and
that
have
have
built
the
area
and
then
also
to
to
document
and
to
demonstrate,
through
the
existing
City
processes,
that
that
these
places
objects
are
worthy
of
historic
preservation.
I
And
so,
as
you
saw
with
Elaine's
previous
pres
presentation,
there's
an
awful
lot
of
research.
That
goes
into
a
particular
subject.
Before
we're
able
to
bring
it
back
to
you
and
understanding
the
people,
the
places
and
the
events
of
that
area
and
then
trying
to
identify
what
the
appropriate
method
of
recognition
is
for
a
historic
asset
could
be.
Local.
I
Designation
might
be
celebrating
it
through
some
of
the
different
Medias
that
we
we
looked
at
in
the
prior
in
the
prior
presentation,
through
public
art
or
plaques
or
historic
markers
or
listing
a
particular
resource
in
the
National
register,
store
places
either
as
an
individual
property
at
multiple
property
or
district.
And
so
you
know
identifying
what
the
appropriate
tool
is
is
a
big
part
of
what
the
staff
engages
in
every
day.
I
There
are
a
number
of
different
districts
and
both
local
and
National
they're
in
the
proximity
of
the
neighborhood
or
within
just
to
kind
of
clean
that
up
a
little
bit
with
this
map
kind
of
is
helpful
in
identifying
you
see
a
portion
of
the
Ebor
City
national,
landmark
and
local
historic
district
just
in
the
the
lower
left
corner,
just
a
budding
the
Tampa,
Heights
historic
district
and
then,
as
you
move
north
there's,
the
Seminole
Heights
historic
district
and
the
Hampton
Terrace
National
register
District.
I
I
So
much
of
what
we've
been
engaged
in
really
prior
to
the
previous
meeting,
but
since
the
previous
meeting
is
reviewing
existing
inventories
of
the
area,
identifying
prior
surveys
or
known
historic
resources
that
often
helps
us
to
understand
other
resources
that
may
be
in
proximity
or
that
may
have
not
been
they
may
have
been
identified,
but
there
there
really
hasn't
been
much
action
taken
on
them.
We
look
for
histories,
both
written
in
oral
that
may
have
been
conducted
in
the
area.
I
Of
course,
photographs
are
a
big
or
very
helpful,
and
then
individuals
to
interview
like
Mr
Johnson
I
know
he.
We
just
grabbed
his
number
before
he
went
out.
So
that's
always
very,
very
helpful
and
and
very
appreciative
for
people
that
share
their
time
with
us
and
then
there's
also
different
types
of
documentation
for
eligible
sites
and
structures
through
the
Florida
Master
site
file
system.
I
Photography,
narratives
and
statements
of
significance
are
also
also
included
in
some
of
these
documents.
That
really,
you
know,
give
us
the
basis
for
beginning
further
research.
I
I
You
know
this
is
an
area
I,
think
that
we
we
hopefully
will
be
able
to
identify
more
there's,
there's
not
an
extreme
amount
of
focus
that
has
been
played
in
this
area
other
than
federally
funded
projects
that
have
really
been.
You
know,
case
specific,
for
instance,
the
expansion
of
275
or
the
expansion
of
Interstate
4,
where
there
were
studies
done
under
the
section
106
process
or
perhaps
in
the
section
106
process,
where
there's
another
potential
impact
to
Historic
resources.
I
Like
you
see
in
some
of
these
illustrations,
there
may
be
National
Historic
District
eligibility
determinations
based
on
section
106
processes,
cultural
resource
assessment
surveys
that
may
have
been
conducted
in
accordance
with
section
106
that
could
be
for
roadway
expansions
and
potential
impacts
that
might
be
happening
because
of
that
like
along
22nd,
Street
Corridor
or
could
be
the
introduction
of
cell
phone
towers
that
there's
required
to
go
through
a
section
106
process.
Those
are
the
the
radiuses
that
you
see
on
these
Maps.
I
And
then
kind
of
turning
to
some
of
the
some
of
the
resources
that
have
been
identified
in
these
areas,
there's
structures
that
do
have
Florida
Master
site
files.
Those
are
documents
that
are
recorded
with
the
division
of
historic
resources
and
that
really
delineate
a
particular
structure
and
its
potential
eligibility
for
listing,
and
then
there's
also
properties
that
are
potentially
eligible
that
have
been
identified
through
some
of
these
studies,
but
have
not
been
locally
or
nationally
designated.
I
I
And
then
looking
at
some
of
the
recorded
cemeteries
in
in
the
area
of
course,
I
think
were
off
familiar
with
Memorial
Cemetery
Memorial,
Park
Cemetery,
but
also
within
the
East
Tampa
area.
There
are
other
cemeteries
that
have
Florida
Master
site
files,
and
you
see
some
of
those
in
proximity
to
the
the
neighborhood
as
well
just
outside.
What's
considered
East
Tampa
proper,
with
like
the
Zion
Cemetery.
I
So,
under
the
preservation
umbrella,
there's
obviously
different
types
of
designations
or
listings,
the
national
register
of
historic
places
really
is
a
tool
of
a
recognition
and
and
commemoration.
There
are
some
protective
measures
with
it,
they're,
mainly
on
projects
that
are
federally
funded,
which
kind
of
tie
back
to
that
section.
106
process
we're
we're
dollars
like,
for
instance,
say
on
in
Interstate,
expansion
are
going
from
the
federal
government
and
through
the
National
Historic
preservation
act.
It's
required
that
you
know
we
understand
what
those
impacts
are
going
to
be
to
Historic
resources
and
then
locally.
I
There's
you
know
potential
that
would
apply
to
East
Tampa
as
well
as
anywhere
else
in
the
city
for
individual
Landmark
designations
for
multiple
property
groupings.
Depending
on
you
know
what
the
history
of
particular
resource
is,
if
it's
ethnic,
ethnically
important
or
architecturally
important,
or
perhaps
a
mixture
of
different
eligibility
criteria
and
then
there's
local
historic
district
designations
and
a
local,
historic
district
designation,
really
a
district
can
be
really
an
assemblage
of
three
buildings
or
more.
I
Here's
some
examples.
We
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
the
resources
of
of
the
African-American
communities
today
in
the
city.
These
are
some
examples
of
local
Landmark
designations
that
we
have.
Some
of
these
are
older
and,
as
the
program
has
sort
of
evolved
and
preservation
approaches
have
evolved,
there's
been,
you
know,
sort
of
a
little
bit
different
way
of
managing
some
of
the
resources
we
created
the
multiple
properties
groups
to
as
an
assemblage
that
that
somewhat,
you
know
tell
the
story
of
a
particular
type.
I
You
know,
rather
that
be
the
bridges
over
the
Hillsborough
River,
the
African-American
Heritage
sites
or
the
downtown
Franklin
Street
Corridor
and
prior
to
those
multiple
property
groups.
There
was
the
the
approach
was
really
to
do
individual
landmarks
and
so
some
of
the
older
landmarks
that
we
see
that
been
designated
for
quite
a
while
are
usually
individually
designated.
I
These
are
some
of
the
you
know
the
other
approaches
that
perhaps
can
be
looked
at
for
resources
or
events
that
don't
exist
anymore,
or
that
perhaps
can
the
story
can
be
told
through
either
public
art
or
through
a
plaque.
So
there's
you
know
different,
there's
different
ways
to
expand
upon
the
built
past
and
be
able
to
kind
of
represent
that
to
the
public
now
and
into
the
future
and
I
think
these
are
all
options
that
can
be
looked
at
along
the
way.
For
you
know,
the
appropriate
site
or
building.
I
Memorial
Park
Cemetery,
obviously
very
important
historic
resource
in
the
East
Tampa
Community
I.
Think
it's
been
well
publicized,
but
I'll
kind
of
reiterate
that
the
city
is
under
contract
to
purchase
Memorial
Park
Cemetery.
Since
our
last
meeting
that
has
changed
in
talking
with
our
real
estate
division
that
they're
anticipated
to
be
closing
on
that
transaction
by
the
end
of
the
month.
And
then
it's
the
city's
intention
to
seek
historic,
designation
on
this
cemetery
and
in
the
resource
thereafter.
I
And
then
there's
other
types
which
this
is
just
a
sort
of
a
wonderful
story
and
resource
that
we
still
have
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Rogers
Park,
Golf
Course,
where
this
has
been
recognized
nationally,
but
not
locally.
So
there's
an
opportunity
to
expand
upon
those
original
listings
and
and
bring
a
further
local
protection
to
them.
I
Unfortunately,
I
was
informed
that
that
meeting
was
canceled
and
so
I
had
spoke
with
the
CRA
managers
at
that
time
and
I
said
well,
look
I,
really
kind
of
want
to
keep
this
moving
along,
and
so
what
we
agreed
was
was
to
just
kind
of
elevate
it
and
and
for
me
to
have
an
opportunity
to
go
back
to
the
actual
Community
advisory
committee
itself
and
not
the
subcommittee
on
June,
6
and
so
I'll
be
I'll.
Be
attending
that
meeting.
I
You
see
the
the
location,
the
time
and
the
place
here
and
I
believe
that
that's
also
on
the
the
ca
the
CRA
website.
I
And
we'll
continue
to
update
you
as
we
make
progress
on
this,
but
I
think
given
the
acquisition
of
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
and
some
of
the
efforts
that
we've
kind
of
been
going
over
today,
you
see
that
there's
some
momentum
here
that
we
definitely
want
to
keep
going
and
and
hopefully
make
some
progress
in
in
East
Tampa
area.
B
I
B
Yeah
I
now
miss
Miss
Pettis
Mackle
is
now
an
appropriate
time
to
ask
for
public
comments.
H
B
If
there
is
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
come
forward,
please
state
your
name
and
address
and.
P
My
name
is
Ray
Reed
1421,
Hilton,
Place,
old
Seminole,
Heights
Tampa,
Florida,
33604
and
I
was
asked
to
speak
with
you
today
by
Ms
Eileen
Henderson,
that's
Eileen,
with
an
a
she's
at
914,
West
fribley,
Street,
Tampa
33603
and
is
unfortunately
on
the
mend
and
could
not
physically
be
here
and
felt.
It
was
important
enough
that
not
an
email
would
suffice.
P
Eileen's
the
founder
of
the
cemetery
Society
of
Florida,
not-for-profit
of
which
I
too
am
a
proud
member,
and
we
want
to
take
this
opportunity
to
introduce
the
cemetery
Society
to
you.
We
would
like
to
work
with
the
commission
staff
historians.
Anyone
all
things
Cemetery
here
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
whenever
growing
group
of
Tampa
area
residents
dedicated
to
the
beautification
education,
restoration
and
preservation
of
Tampa's
historic
cemeteries,
we
came
into
being
after
spearheading
the
campaign.
Ever
anyone
remember,
say:
Woodlawn
Cemetery,
against
a
developer,
wanting
to
build
on
Woodland
Cemetery
property.
P
P
We're
also
the
group
The
Sound
of
the
alarm
to
the
purchase
of
a
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
by
a
property
flipper
together
with
friends
in
Belmont,
Heights,
Memorial,
Park
Cemetery,
we're
pleased
to
see
yet
another
unanimous
vote
by
sample
City
Council
approving
the
city
of
Tampa's
purchase
of
that
Cemetery,
which
Dennis
just
referenced
moving
forward.
We
plan
on
taking
a
more
active
role
in
Tampa's
history
and
its
documentation,
with
the
primary
focus
on
its
cemeteries.
P
P
We've
documented
that
much
of
it,
these
people
that
we've
erased
in
their
turtle
sites
the
stories
that
they
bring
forward,
that
you
can
through
documentation,
even
newspapers,
things
that
should
be
named
for
people
and
names
that
should
be
known
by
every
child
white,
black
brown
or
green
in
Tampa.
Today
it
had
been
buried
and
built
upon.
P
We
look
forward
to
a
positive
working
relationship
with
this
Commission
current
and
future
Administration
and
staff
within
the
city
of
Tampa
and
I
thought.
I
was
a
lone
wolf
and
so
I
saw
these
signs
when
I
came
back
from
out
of
state
and
I
thought.
What's
the
same,
little
one
and
I
met
Eileen
and
I
met
some
of
the
folks.
There
you've
got
a
powerful
group
of
people
and
we've
got
an
awful
lot
to
share.
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
Holly
Reed
I
live
at
2059
Ronald
Circle
in
Seffner
today,
I'm
asking
for
a
national
landmark
resignation
for
Woodlawn
Memorial,
Park
and
martikalon
cemeteries
in
the
last
three
years
alone.
All
of
these
cemeteries
have
faced
incidents
of
real
estate
developers
trying
to
buy,
sell
or
build
on
parts
of
them.
These
sacred
places
need
every
layer
of
protection
that
they
can
get
personally.
Q
I've
done
extensive
research
into
the
Potter's
field
at
Woodlawn
and
the
the
number
of
burials
at
Memorial
Park,
since
its
designation
in
1895
The
Potters
field
at
Woodlawn
has
changed
locations
and
gone
through
several
expansions.
There
are
about
3
000
people
buried
at
put
in
The
Potter's
field
and
I
believe
burials
were
conducted
in
several
different
locations
at
different
times,
with
sections
segregated
by
race
and
by
adults
and
infants.
But
I
don't
know
where
these
sections
are.
There
also
Remains
the
issue
of
a
unique
section
designated
in
1900
for
black
burials.
Q
That
has
never
been
fully
identified
or
resolved
regarding
Memorial
Park.
While
it's
understood
that
there
are
no
more
open
plots
remaining
for
sale,
the
exact
number
of
burials
there
is
unknown
last
summer.
I
tried
to
document
as
many
burials
as
I
could
using
publicly
available
resources
using
death
certificates
from
1920
to
1939
on
familysearch.com
and
obituaries
scanned
from
the
Florida
Sentinel
bulletin
archives
at
the
stabilize
Andrews
Junior
Library
I
documented
about
15
000
burials.
Q
Unfortunately,
this
number
is
incomplete
because
there
is
a
large
gap
from
when
the
death
certificates
end
in
1939
and
when
the
obituaries
begin
in
1958
I
have
no
way
of
counting
the
burials
from
then.
However,
I
can
make
an
estimate
and
I
believe
the
total
number
of
burials
at
Memorial
is
close
to
twenty
thousand.
Q
R
Good
morning
my
name
is
Noreen
Copeland
Miller
and
I'm,
the
founder
of
the
friends
of
family
Heights,
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
I'm
here
this
morning,
because
when
I
saw
an
agenda
about
the
update
for
the
East
Tampa
community
I
was
one
interested
to
see
exactly
and
hear
and
be
here
in
person
to
see
the
updates
and
I'm
glad
that
the
cemetery
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
as
they
said,
was
there
and
as
I
listened
to
that,
and
we
look
at
the
demographics
as
we
continue
to
say,
East
Tampa,
remember
it's
Bama,
Heights,
Memorial,
Park,
Cemetery
and
I
was
listening
to
the
history
here
and
as
Mr
Fernandez
was
talking
about
the
historical
destinations
and,
of
course,
Ybor
Seminole
Heights
Hamilton
terrorists,
but
we
never
say
Batman
Heights.
R
Bama
Heights
nobody's
talking
about
it
and
I
listened
to
this
lady,
doing
a
great
presentation
with
her
historical
facts
telling
my
story:
I'm
a
fifth
generation
in
Tampa
I
used
to
go
to
the
Lincoln
Theater
on
Central
Avenue
to
Moses
white
chicken
place
in
the
other
things
there
so
I'm
like,
but
who
would
know
it
was
there
because
you
couldn't
find
the
exact
area.
I
walked
down
Central
with
my
family
and
we
are
erasing
black
history
in
this
city.
R
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
comments.
I
will
now
close
babe.
B
I
Well,
thank
you
once
again:
Dennis
Fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager.
Thank
you
all
for
coming
out
today.
I
know
this
is
at
the
end
of
the
agenda.
So
it's
been
a
long
morning
for,
for
these
folks,
I
just
want
to
say
we're
very
open
to
collaborating
with
the
society
before
you
leave
we'll
definitely
get
your
contact
information
and
as
we
move,
you
know
these
cemeteries
through
our
process.
We
certainly
want
to
learn
and
be
able
to
represent
the
history,
and
you
know
the
events
correctly.
I
So
we
we
look
forward
to
that
collaboration.
As
you
know,
the
the
city
itself
its
process
as
a
local
designation
process.
The
State
of
Florida
is
the
essentially
vehicle
by
which
national
register
or
national
landmark
designations
are
applied.
For
so
we
can
certainly
coordinate
on
these
designations
and
I
think
with
them.
As
I
said
it
brings.
B
D
Hi,
yes,
thank
you,
staff
and
Dennis
for
the
research
for
East
Tampa
and
following
up
so
quickly
and
Gathering
the
resources
to
prepare
for
the
meeting
for
June.
The
6th
I
definitely
will
be
in
attendance,
and
hopefully
the
community
can
be
in
attendance
to
provide
other
information.
Because
again,
when
you
there's
no
physical
structure,
oral
is
an
expect.
The
best
thing
so
also
I
would
implore
the
city
of
Tampa
to
also
work
with
USF.
D
Recently
USF
social
I
don't
have
the
correct
name,
but
their
social
department
has
been
working
with
East
Tampa,
not
only
to
work
on
the
historic
perspective,
but
also
the
water
and
quality
content.
But
during
that
time
they
were
interviewing
what
we
call
the
Jazzy
seniors.
Those
are
the
seniors
who've
been
in
the
East
Tampa
for
a
long
time
and
some
of
their
oil
history,
I
was
able
to
be
a
part
of
that
research.
D
Last
few
months,
they've
been
working
close
with
East
Tampa,
so
it's
still
relatively
new
and
East
Tampa
is
in
that
area.
We're
actually
having
a
neighborhood
association
meeting
on
the
18th,
where
others
from
that
area
will
be
in
attendance
as
well,
so
I'm
big
for
a
community,
because
if,
if
we
don't
know
how
would
we
know.
I
B
Excellent
I
think
that
concludes
for
the
East
Tampa
update
the
date
and
next
time,
just
as
a
reminder
for
our
commissioners,
the
next
meeting
date
has
been
changed.
It
is
now
July
11
2023
at
9
00
a.m.
In
in
these
Chambers.
C
C
A
C
Was
wondering
if
that
was
something
that
you
could
brief
us
on?
Even
if
the
answer
is
none
of
those
scary
things
passed.
That
would
be
fine,
because
I
really
haven't
kept
up
with
it
and
I
think
not
only
for
my
edification,
but
I,
don't
think
it
would
hurt
to
have
the
public.
You
know
for
the
masses
that
watch
our
meetings
so.
I
I
actually
had
a
request
from
another
commissioner,
commissioner.
Schuecraft
there's
been
quite
a
buzz
in
the
world
of
preservation
over
the
last
couple
of
months
related
to
some
activity
coming
out
of
Tallahassee,
so
I
have
a
I,
have
one
of
those
particular
pieces
of
legislation
to
review
with
you
today
and
and
then,
and
if
there
are
others
that
you
know
we,
we
can
certainly
bring
those
back.
I
I
So
this
may
be
one
of
the
pieces
of
legislation
that
you
were
referring
to,
commissioner,
but
the
the
one
that
that
certainly
kind
of
took
took
the
wind
out
of
the
sail
in
the
State
of
Florida
for
preservation
was
the
proposed
bill
by
Senator,
Avila
and
Miami-Dade
area
and
representative
representative
roach
in
North
Fort
Myers
and
it
was
came
in
under
House,
Bill
1317
and
then
it's
it's
companion
bill,
Senate,
Bill,
1346
and
as
introduced
that
you
know
this
is
sort
of
a
broad
level
description.
I
It
was
to
create
the
resilience
resiliency
and
safety
safe
structures,
Act,
which
would
prohibit
local
governments
from
prohibiting
restricting
or
preventing
demolition
of
certain
structures
and
less
necessary
for
Public
Safety.
The
the
original
Bill
did
not
apply
to
single
family
structures
or
structures
that
were
individually
listed
on
the
national
register
of
historic
places.
There
were
other
exemptions
that
were
added
over
time,
but
as
introduced,
the
bill,
overrode
local
governments
limits
on
demolishing
or
preventing
demolition
of
structures
in
coastal
areas.
I
Mm-Hmm,
so
you
can
see
that
there
was.
It
was
quite
alarming
that
the
the
legislation
that
was
being
proposed-
overrode
local
government
limits,
both
on
preventing
demolitions
and
on
how
those
structures
could
be
replaced.
So
we
were
locally
looking
at
areas
that
would
have
impacted
us
within
significant
portions
of
Ebor
City,
predominantly
everything
along
the
river
of
large
sections
of
the
Hyde
Park
historic
district
and
all
of
Davis
Island's
large
portions
of
Palmetto
Beach
National
register
historic
district.
So
there
was,
it
would
have
had
a
you
know,
that's
just
our
community.
I
You
know
this
is
a
all
along
the
coast
of
Florida,
very
significant,
along
St
Pete
area
along
Miami-Dade
area.
As
amendments
were
added,
there
were
exclusions
to
single-family
structures
that
were
were
introduced,
and
then
there
was
a
caveat
if
it
was
listed
on
the
national
Webster
historic
places,
but
individually
listed
not
as
a
district.
Most
of
our
most
of
our
district
designations,
there's
a
kind
of
a
approach
to
preservation
that
if
you
have
a
district
designation,
it's
not
necessary
to
seek
an
individual
designation
because
they
both
result
in
the
same
effect.
I
I
There
was,
you
know,
smaller
communities
like
Apalachicola
or
Pensacola,
and
then
more
Museum
towns
like
Saint
Augustine
they're,
trying
to
take
take
it
away,
because
the
real
Focus
for
these
particular
legislators
was
the
South
Beach
area,
that's
where
their
real
Target
was,
but
it
their
wording
was
much
further
and
then
you
know
there
was
other
discussion
about.
I
Perhaps
if
a
structure
came
down
that
it
would
still
have
to
go
through
a
public
hearing
process
to
to
be
reconstructed,
but
then
that
reconstructed
structure
would
be
compliant
with
FEMA
and
potentially
could
be
out
of
character
with
its
surrounding
structure,
so
that
was
that
was
the
General
overview
that
had
most
of
the
preservations
in
Florida
and
many
you
know
people
that
were
worried
about
Heritage
tourism
and
impacts
on
on
the
the
Florida
coast.
You
know
very
alarmed
as
the
the
refined
area.
I
The
last
proposal
was
that
it
it
apply
along
Coastal,
Construction,
Control
lines,
which
you
see
this
map
indicates
the
Coastal
Construction
Control
lines.
Tampa
does
not
have
these
control
lines,
so
the
last
version
of
this
is
it
went
into
the
Senate
excluded,
the
Tampa
area,
but
obviously
impacted
many
communities
in
Florida,
and
essentially
what
happened
was
this
bill
never
made
it
out
of
the
house?
It
died
in
the
house,
and
so
it
was
not.
It
was
not
voted
upon
it
did.
It
did,
however,
I
think
get
most
people
in
the
state.
I
Thinking
about
you
know
future
proposed
legislation
and
the
trend
that
we're
seeing
in
Florida
is
is
obviously
more
Redevelopment
friendly,
more
density,
driven
land
use
regulations
that
is
being
somewhat
facilitated
through
the
state
legislature,
so
I
think
it's
it's
an
important.
You
know,
example,
one
just
one
segment
of
of
land
use
issues
that
are
going
on
right
now
that
place
additional
pressures
on
historic
preservation
and
really
result
in
a
need
to
monitor
these
and
stay
engaged
and
stay
active.
We
work
through.
We
have
a
legislative
liaison
for
the
City
of
Tampa.
I
That
I
was
working
closely
with
there's.
Also,
groups
like
The
Florida
trust
for
historic
preservation
and
I
was
coordinating
with
the
state
historic
preservation
office
on
this,
as
were
many
many,
you
know,
other
are
similar
municipalities
throughout
the
state,
so
I
I
believe
that
was
one
of
the
the
proposed
legislative
measures
that
was
going
through.
There
were
others
that
were
incentives
to
preservation.
One
one
was
a
was
a
state
tax
credit
that
was
being
proposed.
I
That
was
similar
to
the
federal
tax
credit
that
exists,
that
we
we
utilize
and
it's
very
valuable
for
historic
preservation
projects,
but,
however,
that
that
failed
to
get
passed
as
well.
So
while
we
we
did
not
have
a
you
know
this,
this
degradation
of
local
control
over
historic
resources
past
we
also
didn't
have
an
incentive
that
it
could
be
used
to
promote
historic
reservation.
I
So
it's
it's
a
that's
unfortunate.
We
were
hopeful
that
that
could
pass
and
be
another
tool
in
our
kit
to
encourage
preservation
locally
and
Statewide.
F
Thank
you
Dennis.
So
much
I
appreciate
it
was
kind
of
last
minute.
My
request,
I
do
have
two
follow-up
questions.
One
is
the
Coastal
Construction
Control
I
am
looking
at
the
the
figure
right
now.
So
are
you
saying
that
includes
when
you
say
the
Tampa
Bay
area,
I
assume
that
means
Saint
P
Safety
Harbor,
you
know,
basically
anybody
who's
got
property
along
a
Waterway.
Is
that
that's
what
that's
saying?
Okay
and.
F
H
It
Mario
pedest
Michael
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
It
depends
on
the
effective
date,
that's
provided
in
the
bill
itself,
okay,
and
it
depends
on
when
the
governor
signs
it
also
so
there's
a
timeline
process
to
the
legislation
that's
proposed,
so
some
bills
are
effective
immediately
upon
it
being
passed.
H
Or
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
I
could
provide
that
update.
If
it
is
the
pleasure
of
the
commission
to
have
additional
legislative
update,
information
provided
I
could
provide
that
information
at
the
next
meeting.
It
would
be
for
me.
F
C
I
really
appreciate
that
that
was
the
you
know
this,
the
most
scary
Bill,
and
that
was
direct
and
I
do
think
once
hopefully
not
when
we
read
all
the
preemption
bills
that
were
passed
and
even
the
99
page,
affordable
housing
bill
would
for
40
years
and
my
specialty
was
affordable,
housing
in
grad
school.
C
But
there
are
a
lot
of
perhaps
intended
consequences
for
some,
but
I
think
for
some
of
us
unintended
consequences
and
things
in
that
bill
that
once
everybody
works
through,
hopefully
not
but
those
pressures
again
they're,
not
maybe
speaking
to
Historic
preservation,
but
their
pressures
for
redevelopment
with
the
one
line
in
that
bill.
That
says,
you
can
build
certain,
affordable
housing
on
any
commercially
zone
property
and
you
can
do
it
at
the
height
of
the
highest
height
in
the
city
within
one
mile.
It's
some
crazy,
crazy.
H
C
And
that's
you
know
again,
it's
indirect,
but
those
are
things
that
I
think
an
awareness,
as
you
said,
of
those
things
so
I
I,
wouldn't
once
we
all
get
to
read
the
I
read
the
99
pages
of
that
bill
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
in
there
that
either
be
either
either.
We
don't
know
the
interpretation
of
yet
or
really
hasn't
sunk
in
so
Maybe
by
next
month.
We'll
all
have
more
time
and
that
would
be
helpful.
G
B
Any
other
comments,
then
I
think
we've
taken
care
of
our
new
business
sectional.
B
Board:
okay:
these
do
not
fall
into
that
category,
so
there
are
no
submitted
documents
or
exhibits
that
we've
received
today.
So
you
did.
H
Have
exhibits
for
the
applications
that
were
on
the
agenda?
So
if
you
still
have
a
motion
to
receive
okay.
B
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
election
of
officers
for
the
ensuing
year.
There
are,
if
you
could
brief
us
Dennis.
There
are
several
of
us
who,
whose
terms
are
expiring,
including
myself,
so
we
will
need
to
move
forward
with
those
candidates
whose
terms
will
be
ongoing
and
and
go
from
that
point.
I
Yes,
thank
you
once
again:
Dennis
Fernandez
architecture,
review
and
historic
preservation
manager
here
for
the
election
of
officers,
which
is
delineated
in
your
roles
of
procedure
for
each
year
that
there
is
an
election
to
be
held
for
your
officers
and,
as
your
chairperson
just
revealed
that
she
is
in
her
final
month
of
her
Second
and
a
half
term,
and
that
essentially,
is
the
maximum
allowed
to
be
served
so
we'll
we.
She
is
allowed
to
continue
to
serve
until
a
replacement
can
be
identified.
I
But
that
is
your
decision
as
to,
if
that
is
appropriate
for
a
chairperson's
seat.
But
we
we
will
have
a
few
of
our
fellow
Commissioners
leaving
us
within
the
year
for
the
similar
situations
such
as
commissioner
Shoecraft,
whose
term
is
up
in
September
and
commissioner
Ortiz,
who
is
not
here
today,
but
her
term
will
be
up
in
October
and
on
the
more
positive
side.
I
did
want
to
congratulate
commissioner
kanch,
who
has
just
reappointed
at
the
last
city
council
hearing
for
another
term.
I
And
another:
congratulations
for
the
upcoming
hearing.
This
Thursday
for
commissioner
Cobb,
who
is
now
applied
for
a
reappointment
to
her
her
second
term
as
well
and
I
believe,
is
scheduled
on
the
agenda.
This
Thursday
at
city
council,
for
that,
so
in
anticipation
of
our
our
exits
and
our
reappointments
I
I
entered
into
a
call
for
nominations
of
your
chairperson
for
the
upcoming
year
and
how
I
would
normally
do.
This
is
accept
a
nomination
from
the
members
of
the
board.
I
Ask
that
individual,
if
they're
willing
to
serve
in
that
capacity
for
the
next
year
and
then
take
a
vote
on
the
the
nominations
that
we
have
so
do.
I
have
any
nominations
for
the
the
position
of
chairperson.
D
I
And
now
for
the
position
of
a
vice
chairperson,
the
same
process,
any
nominations
for
that
particular
position.
I
We
have
a
nomination
for
commissioner
canch
for
the
vice
chair
position.
Do
you
agree
to
serve
in
that
capacity
for
the
next
year?
Yeah
sure.
I
Commission
appreciate
that,
are
there
any
other
nominations
by
show
of
hands
to
affirm
that
nomination
very
good?
Congratulations.
We
will
set
some
time
up
with
our
legal
councils.
Let's
have
some
of
an
orientation
on
these
positions
and
I
do
appreciate
commissioner
salaga's
role
as
chairperson
since
I
believe
it
was
the
late
2018
when
you're
going
into
that
position,
and
it's
been
a
wonderful
experience
for
I.
Think
the
commissioner
for
the
staff
to
work
with
you.
We
really
appreciate
that.