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However,
in
response
to
the
covet
19
restrictions,
members
of
the
public
are
encouraged
to
participate
virtually
through
video
teleconferencing,
which
is
referred
to
by
florida
statutes
and
rules
as
communications
media
technology.
This
meeting
is
held
in
accordance
with
the
emergency
rules
of
procedure,
as
adopted
by
resolution.
Number
2020-225
is
amended
by
resolution
number
20
20-490,
the
public
and
the
citizens
of
tampa
are
able
to
watch,
listen
and
view
this
meeting
on
spectrum
channel
640
frontier
channel
15
and
on
the
internet
at
tampa.gov
forward.
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F
The
public
has
had
the
opportunity
to
comment
and
present
evidence
if
they
wish
to
in
advance
of
these
hearings
and
written
comments
that
have
been
emailed
or
mailed
have
been
distributed
to
city
council
and
also
will
be
included
in
the
permanent
record
of
today's
meeting
and
all
public
comments.
Timely
received
by
mail,
email
or
via
cmt
will
be
awarded
equal
consideration
as
if
the
public
comments
were
made
in
person.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
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Well,
we've
had
some
discussions
with
the
ritz
about
possibly
resolving
the
the
alleged
violations.
I'm.
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And
thank
you,
mr
chair,
on
item
number
four.
I
believe
mr
laro
is
downstairs
and
would
like
to
make
a
real
question.
Mr.
A
H
Morning,
yes,
I
I
also
spoke
with
the
city
attorney's
office
last
week,
and
we
are
also
hoping
to
engage
in
meaningful
conversations.
So
we
requested
a
continuance
for
that
reason,
and
also
because
a
second
notice
has
a
hearing
coming
up
on
march,
8th
as
well,
so
we're
hoping
to
consolidate
those
and
make
some
strong
steps
in
the
right
direction
in
the
interim.
I
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
Now
you
can
hear
me
file
number
e
20
21-8
chapter
27.
I
moved
that
it
be
continued
until
march
8,
2021.
D
A
F
Sorry,
I'm
sorry
councilman
sitro.
Did
you
state
the
time
on
that
nine.
I
I
C
Mr
chairman,
yes,
sir,
since
we
are
giving
a
quick
continues
for
items
three
and
items
four,
how
many
do
we
have
on
the
agenda
for
that
date
of
march,
8th.
H
And
I
didn't
want
to
interrupt,
but
I
know
that
you're
up
there
on
the
third
floor
and
we're
down
here
on
the
second-
and
I
just
wanted
to
for
the
record-
tell
you
how
wonderful
a
job
lisa
edwards
is
doing
she's
keeping
this
from
the
chaos
that
it
might
otherwise
be,
but
she's
doing
an
excellent
job.
And
I
know
you
can't
see
it.
But
I
wanted
you
to
know
that.
Thank.
D
You
very
grateful
for
her
help
and
yours.
Thank
you
very
much
and
yeah.
I'm
grateful
for
lisa
each
and
every
day
she's
my
legislative
aide,
I'm
truly
blessed
to
have
her
working
for
the
citizens
and
for
us
she
really
goes
above
and
beyond.
So
I
know
lisa's
listening.
Thank
you
you're
great,
always
doing
a
great
job.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you
again,
mr
chair.
I'd
first
like
to
make
some
general
marks
that
are
related
to
both
hearings,
and
then
we
would
take
up
each
individual
hearing.
F
After
my
general
remarks,
johnson
velez,
if
I'm
sorry,
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
martin
shelby
city
council
attorney
behind
you,
I
just
want
to
put
on
the
record
council
and
I've
put
that
before
you-
the
roadmap
for
today,
just
so
that
the
public
has
a
sense
of
where
this
is
going,
and
certainly
I
believe
these
have
been
provided
to
the
the
respondents.
F
In
this
case,
you're,
going
to
hear
general
remarks
from
ms
johnson
velez
regarding
the
purpose
of
the
hearings,
then
comes
the
city's
presentation,
followed
by
city
council's
questioning
of
city
witnesses.
If
needed,
then
the
respondent
will
have
an
opportunity,
if
requested,
to
cross-examine
the
city's
witness
if
there's
a
need
for
redirectory
cross,
we'll
take
that
up.
F
But
after
that
then
comes
the
respondents
presentation
and
like
the
city's
presentation
that
is
to
be
set
for
a
time
up
to
30
minutes
unless
additional
time
is
requested
and
decided
to
be
afforded
to
them
by
city
council
following
the
respondents.
Presentation
comes
council's
questions.
City
council's
questions
of
respondents
witnesses
if
needed,
followed
by
the
city's
cross-examination
of
the
respondents.
F
Witnesses,
if
requested
again,
there's
going
to
be
redirect
or
re
cross
if
necessary
and
requested,
and
then,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
council,
if
there
are
members
of
the
public
for
three
minutes
that
wish
to
comment
for
the
case
before
the
decision,
they
will
have
that
opportunity,
followed
by
the
respondents,
rebuttal
and
submission
a
summation
up
to
a
10-minute
limit
unless
necessary
to
grant
more,
and
likewise,
we
close,
then
with
the
city's
rebuttal
and
submission
summation
up
to
10
minutes
before
council
closes
the
public
hearing
and
deliberates.
Thank
you.
J
Yes,
good
morning,
mr
chairman
council,
mr
shelby
and
susan,
mr
chaby,
quick
question
in
regard
to
the
process
that
you've
laid
out
how
about
the
the
quote
penalty
phase?
If,
if
any
of
these
cases
get
to
a
penalty
phase,
you
expect
that
as
a
separate
argument.
Or
are
you
assuming
that
that
argument
is
is
rolled
in
I'm
I'm
I'm
thinking,
maybe
maybe
both
sides
should
have.
J
You
know
three
minutes
or
five
minutes
for
for
on
the
penalty
side,
because
clearly
that
you
know
that
might
be
a
different
set
of
arguments.
F
Sir,
that
is
an
excellent
suggestion,
and
that
is
something
that
we
did
do.
Last
thursday
we
did
bifurcate
the
hearing
as
a
matter
of
fact,
we're
going
to
ask
that
you
do
that
again
today
to
bifurcate
them
and
you'll
get
to
that.
When
you
review
27-318.
F
Yes,
there
would
have
to
be
a
finding
first
and
if
it
moves
to
the
penalty
phase,
then
yes,
it
would
be
appropriate
for
both
sides
to
have
the
opportunity
to
address
that
issue.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
would
add
that
to
this
list.
Council.
G
You,
mr
chair,
susan
johnsonville
senior
assistant
city
attorney
council
members,
land
development
code,
section
27-318
c1f
as
in
frank
authorizes
city
council.
After
conducting
a
public
hearing
to
consider
the
suspension
of
alcoholic
beverage
sales
for
cause,
if
council
finds
that
the
property
owner
holder
of
the
alcoholic
beverage
license
operator
of
the
establishment
or
any
agent
or
employee
thereof,
has
failed
to
comply
with
any
provisions
of
the
health
and
sanitation
ordinances
of
the
city,
the
county
or
laws
of
the
state.
After
having
received
reasonable
notice
to
eliminate
or
correct
the
condition
on
the
property.
G
The
first
was
executive
order,
2020-42
issued
by
mayor,
jane,
castor
on
august
19
2020..
It
required
every
person
to
wear
a
mask
in
any
indoor
location
open
to
the
public
when
not
maintaining
social
distancing.
It
also
required
business
operators
of
an
indoor
location
of
a
business
open
to
the
public.
G
In
the
city
to
make
reasonable
efforts
to
require
all
persons
within
their
location
to
wear
a
face
covering
when
not
maintaining
social
distancing
and
the
order
set
out
four
minimum
steps
that
the
business
had
to
take
in
order
to
have
found
to
have
made
to
have
been
found
to
make
reasonable
efforts.
The
business
had
to
post
signage
at
all
of
their
public
entrances.
G
If
they
had
a
pa
system,
they
had
to
announce
over
the
pa
system.
That
masks
are
required
on
a
on
a
regular
basis.
They
had
to
make
those
announcements,
then
they
had
to
require
all
employees
to
wear
masks
and
then
they
had
to
make
all
other
reasonable
efforts,
including
asking
patrons
not
wearing
masks
or
face
coverings
to
do
so.
G
So
it's
important
to
note
that
we're
here
today
as
a
last
resort,
the
express
intent
of
both
orders
was
to
seek
voluntary
compliance
with
the
provisions
and
to
educate
and
warn
of
the
dangers
of
non-compliance
in
the
event
that
voluntary
compliance
was
not
achieved.
Then
enforcement
was
to
be
undertaken
as
a
last
resort.
G
So
it's
relatively
easy
to
post
a
sign,
it's
relatively
easy
to
put
a
basket
of
masks
out
in
the
front
of
your
establishment
and
all
the
entrances
and-
and
it
may
be,
if
you
have
a
pa
system
to
make
announcements
over
the
pa
system.
But
what
other
efforts
were
undertaken
by
each
of
these
establishments
and,
in
fact,
were
any
other
efforts
taken?
G
That's
the
conclusion
of
my
general
remarks
and
if
we
could
go
now
to
item
number
one
on
the
agenda,
the
seventh
and
grove
notice
of
intent
growing.
Thank
you,
sir.
So
this
is
a
notice
of
intent
for
seventh
and
grove,
restaurant
and
bar
located
at
1930
east
7th
avenue.
G
G
The
city
will
present
evidence
and
testimony
that
7th
and
grove
received
information
and
education
on
mass
requirements
that
7th
and
grove
received
warnings
for
non-compliance
and
that,
after
receiving
such
warnings,
employees
were
observed
not
wearing
face
coverings
when
not
social,
distancing
and
patrons
were
without
face
coverings,
while
congregating
around
the
bar
and
other
open
areas
patrons
were
again
without
face
coverings,
while
congregating
at
the
bar
and
open
areas
on
the
january
10
2021
date.
I
would
now
ask
kamaria
pettis
mackel
to
come
forward
for
presentation
of
the
inspector's.
G
D
G
The
violations
at
purple
heart
occurred
on
december
18,
2020
and
january
8
2021,
and
are
detailed
at
the
notice
of
intent
dated
january
13
2021,
which
again
is
behind
tab.
One
purple
heart
received
warning
for
non-compliance
and
after
receiving
such
warnings,
their
employees
were
observed
not
wearing
face
coverings
when
not
social
distancing.
That
was
on
december
18th
of
2020..
J
Mr,
mr
chairman,
yes,
just
as
a
point
of
order
and
if
the,
if
some
of
the
witnesses
are
up
in
the
legal
conference
room
which
it
looks
like
they
might
be
when
they
come
to
speak,
if
they
could
come
each
one.
Obviously
I
want
them
to
stay
six
foot
apart,
but
when
they
come
up
to
speak,
they
testify
if
they
could
come
closer
to
the
camera
as
opposed
to
staying
back
there
on
the
conference
table.
J
D
G
D
E
Mr
freeman,
can
you
please
introduce
yourself
to
city
council.
E
Inspector
freeman
I'd
like
to
draw
your
attention
to
december
18th
of
2020.
Were
you
work?
Were
you
working
on
december
18,
2020.
E
And
can
you
describe
to
city
council?
Did
you
respond
on
that
date
to
an
address
located
at
1811
north
15th
street,
also
known
as
purple
heart
bar
lounge.
H
Okay,
the
bar
is
not
a
large
bar,
probably
the
size
double
the
size
of
this
conference
room
and
immediately
when
you
walk
in,
I
observed
a
patron
standing
without
wearing
masks.
I
saw
an
employee
standing
two
employees
standing
without
math.
When
I
went
to
take
my
picture,
they
quickly
put
their
maps
on
and,
I
would
say,
probably
80
of
the
people
there
were
wearing
their
math.
E
When
you,
when
you
made
your
observations,
inspector
freeman,
did
you,
what
did
you
do
as
a
result
of
the
observations
you
made.
H
We
met
with
the
management
issued
a
citation
for
the
fact
that
they
didn't
have
proper
signage,
which
is
required
under
the
order
and
for
employees
and
patrons
not
wearing
math.
E
E
And
after
you
mentioned
that
after
you
gave
after
you
made
your
observations,
you
gave
a
citation,
did
you
speak
with
the
supervisor
or
a
manager
at
the
time
that
you
issued
the
citation.
H
E
E
Did
you
see
any
of
the
staff
members
walk
around
the
establishment
on
the
on
december
18th
to
tell
people
to
put
on
mask
if
they
weren't
wearing
any.
E
Did
you
see
any
patrons
who
were
not
wearing
masks
be
removed
by
security
of
the
establishment.
E
Okay,
next
I'd
like
to
call
from
the
city
of
inspector
barbara
o'reilly,.
D
C
D
E
A
We,
when
we
entered
the
establishment
we
observed
patrons
without
wearing,
not
wearing
masks
congregating
around
the
bar
and
employees
know
why
or
not.
E
E
Also
for
the
record
another
photograph
dated
january
8:
2021,
can
you
describe
to
city
council,
even
though
it's.
A
Bar
was
very
congregated
inside.
They
were
not
wearing
masks.
E
Officer
inspector
riley
after
you
made
your
observations.
What
did
you
do.
G
E
On
january,
8th
of
2021,
did
you
see
any
signage
posted
on
the
property?
I
do
not
recall
ma'am.
Did
you
hear
any
announcements
throughout
the
establishment
for
the
requirement
of
patrons
to
wear
a
face
mask.
K
D
H
So
once
we
got
to
that
point,
sir,
where
we're
not
getting
compliance
with
the
order,
we
started
issuing
citations,
the
media,
they're,
instant.
C
Okay,
so
multiple
times
at
the
scene,
multiple
chances
to
correct
behavior.
Now,
after
issuing
a
citation,
is
there
a
policy
or
after
to
work
before
you
leave
that
the
establishment
make
an
announcement
to
the
patrons
or
a
security
alert
to
have
the
dj
stop
to
where
announcement
is
made?
What
is
the
protocol
after
you
give
the
citations
to
the
business
owner
or
the
management.
H
Okay,
so
in
this
particular
scenario,
when
we
walked
in
the
majority
of
people
are
very
aware
of
the
order-
they're
just
not
following
it.
So
when
we
walk
in
to
start
taking
photographs,
especially
the
management
or
the
staff
working
there,
they're
immediately
starting
to
put
their
maps
on
at
that
point.
J
Yes,
sir
inspector,
can
you
give
us
a
little
more
detail
as
related
to
this,
this
particular
club
purple
heart?
You
testified
that
you
that
you
were
there
on
december
18th
of
2020,
and
I
guess
and
actually
issued
this
the
subject
citation
were
you
specifically
at
had
you
specifically
been
at
this
club
previously
doing
training
and
giving
warnings
at
this
club.
J
That's
something
that
you
can
come
up
with
on
your
computer
fairly
easily.
H
The
department
I
work
for
should
have
the
information
it's
given
nightly.
J
I'm
talking
about
as
related
to
this
hearing
is
that
something
you
can
come
up
with.
You
know
within
the
next
10
15
minutes.
While
we
move
on.
J
All
right
and
the
same
question
to
the
young
lady
inspector.
A
I
know
they
were
educated
because
we
had
written
them
a
citation
on
december
18th.
So
when
we
went
back
they
had
already
been
educated.
J
So
my
question
is
at
any
time,
prior
to
january,
8th
2020
2021
had
you
personally
been
involved
in
at
the
purple
heart
in
terms
of
educating
or
or
I'm.
A
D
Did
you
see
a
difference
from
december
18
2020
to
january
8
2021
today
come
into
any
type
of
compliance,
make
any
efforts,
because
the
pictures
that
I
see
here
in
the
packet,
I
believe
the
the
evidence
photos
are
from
january
8th,
so
you've
already
visited
at
this
point.
Did
you
see
any
difference?
You
know
employees
behind
the
bar
start
wearing
masks.
D
H
A
D
E
Me,
mr
chair,
yes,
just
for
clarification
again,
I
apologize
kamaria
pettis
mackel
for
the
record,
the
photographs
that
are
in
section
six
of
your
binder
on
december
18th
we
had
just
learned-
are
not
for
this
establishment.
That's
why
I
did
not
show
them.
We
had
just
learned
that.
That's
why
I
did
not
put
that
on
the
on
the
on
the
wolf,
but
the
photographs
for
january
8.
2021
are
the
correct
photographs
that
are
in
your
binder
section.
E
Six
that
I
also
displayed
on
the
wool
and
then
just
to
clarify
for
the
record
inspector
freeman
did
testify
that
the
education
component
was
received
to
this
was
given
to
the
establishment
on
december
18th
of
2020..
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
for
the
record,
there
seems
to
be
some
confusion.
C
But
he
made
a
statement
that
education
was
given
numerous
times
before
the
18th.
So
in
relation
to
mr
dingfield's
question,
there
should
be
any
time
an
officer
goes
on
the
scene.
There
should
be
a
log
or
something
to
put
in
a
computer
automatically
how
many
times
we've
been
there.
So
to
assist
mr
jenkins
question,
we
should
be
able
to
get
on
that
mdt
if
there,
if
code
is
using
that
system,
that
police
department
does
to
be
able
to
click.
How
many
times
we
went
to
that
establishment.
E
Respectfully,
councilman
good's
code
enforcement
just
operates
in
a
different
system
from
tampa
police
department,
so
their
spreadsheet.
They
have
multiple
spreadsheets
on
their
enforcement
efforts
and
again,
the
city's
position
is
that
the
establishment
received
the
education
component
on
both
dates.
First
primarily
beginning
december
18,
2020
and
january
8th
of
2021.
E
J
Let's
just
clarify
for
the
records
totally
clear
counselor
in
regard
to
those
photographs
which
ones
because,
because
I'm
sure
all
of
us
looked
at
them,
which
ones
are
we
supposed
to
disregard
as
as
this
not
being
this
establishment,
I
think
the
dates.
The
dates
appear
to
be
on
the
photographs,
but
you're
saying
it
was
the
wrong
establishment,
which
one.
E
Camario
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office
just
to
clarify
again
it's
the
photographs
dated
december
18th
in
section
six
of
the
binder
are
not
the
correct,
correct
photographs
for
that
establishment
and
if
I
may,
since
I
still
have
time
on
my
presentation,
can
I
ask
a
question
of
keith
o'connor.
E
Mr
o'connor,
can
you
first
introduce
yourself
for
the
record.
H
H
D
L
My
name
is
mike
nelson,
I'm
the
attorney
for
mr
keith
naradas,
who
owns
the
purple
heart,
I'm
also
part
owner
of
the
building
that
I'm
the
landlord
as
well.
So
I
guess
I'm
here
in
two
capacities.
L
Wasn't
going
to
provide
any
testimony.
L
A
L
L
Just
have
a
couple
just
very
quick
questions.
I'd
like
to
talk
to
mr
is
it
o'connor
is
the
head
of
code
enforcement.
D
L
L
The
counselor
earlier,
the
first
attorney
I
forget
her
name
that
came
up
and
spoke
first
said
that
all
the
clubs
were
given
warning.
How
did
you
give
a
club
or
going
to
a
club?
That
was
never
opened
a
warning
and
could
you
state
when,
prior
to
december
18th
and
specifically
to
who
you
gave
the
warning.
H
That
was
a
general
statement.
We've
been
we've
been
giving
warnings
to
all
the
clubs
in
ebor
every
thursday,
friday
and
saturday
night
for
months
now.
So
every
club
that
was
open
would
have
seen
a
received
a
warning
so.
L
L
Has
there
been
a
change
in
the
last
seven
days
regarding
enforcement?
Have
you
advised
clubs
that
you
would
no
longer
not
be
giving
tickets
if
people
were
standing
in
the
dance
floor.
H
No,
that
that
was
a
misunderstanding
that
we
have
to
excuse
me
that
we
have
to
deal
with
the
dance
floors.
Dance
floors
are
to
be
closed,
but
it's
the
only
violation
is
a
dance
floor
violation
where
people
are
wearing
masks
but
they're
utilizing
the
dance
floor.
That
would
be
a
warning
that
shows
us
that
they're
trying
to
adhere
to
the
to
the
to
the
rules,
but
they
let
people
on
the
dance
floor.
We
would
give
them
a
warning,
but.
H
It's
not
a
change.
It's
it's
an
evolution
of
our
checks.
There
was
a
club
that
had
a
citation
issue
with
dance
floor.
Everyone
on
the
dance
floor
that
had
a
mask
on
okay.
H
L
H
H
If
it's
just
one
violation,
just
like
with
all
the
clubs,
it's
not
a
flagrant
disregard
for
multiple
rules.
We
give
warnings,
we
don't
cite.
H
A
H
H
L
L
H
H
L
Am
I
correct
in
saying
that
if
you
go
into
a
restaurant
I
know
this
is
these
are
bars
we're
talking
about?
If
I
sit
down
to
invite
to
have
a
meal
and
start
eating
the
meal,
I
take
my
mask
off
as
I'm
chewing
my
food.
Am
I
required
to
replace
my
mask
as
I
chew,
or
I
can
leave
my
mask
off
the
entire
meal.
H
Once
you're
seated,
you
can
remove
your
mask
for
the
while
you're
seated.
If.
L
H
L
Europe,
one
of
the
officers
earlier
said
about
80
percent
of
them.
The
patrons
at
my
client's
establishment
were
wearing
masks,
so
I
guess
20
were
not.
Was
there
any
kind
of
percentage
given
to
how
many
were
drinking?
In
other
words,
how
many
had
drinks
currently
engaged
in
the
act
of
drinking
that
had
their
mask
down.
L
Was
officer
was
miss
riley
freeman
there
do
you
know.
Well,
let
me
I
would.
L
I
have
no
further
questions.
Thank
you
very
much
officer.
L
This
is,
I
don't
see,
miss
riley
freeman
is
that
a
man.
L
L
Miss
riley:
is
it
your
testimony
that
the
signs
that
you
delivered
in
december
were
not
placed
on
immediately
upon
your
handing
the
signs
to
our
my
client?
I
don't.
L
A
A
L
E
Kamaria
perez
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
if
I
may
quickly
just
re-direct.
Mr
mr
o'connor,
please.
H
The
they're
complaint
driven
for
the
most
part,
but
we
do
we
do
go
to
all
the
establishments
throughout
the
city
with
rovers
to
try
to
capture
everybody.
A
D
All
right,
I
saw
the
I
believe
it
was
the
owner
who
was
ready
to
speak
at
the
kiosk.
The
gentleman
behind
you,
sir.
L
B
So
december
18th
officers
came,
the
code
enforcement
officers
came
in
and
they
cited
us
for
customers
not
wearing
masks
or
standing
up.
They
also
said
an
employee
didn't
have
a
mask
on
which
all
of
my
employees
did
have
on
mask
of
my
knowledge.
B
I
didn't
see
any
photographs
of
my
employees
not
having
on
masks.
I
do
and
I
did
enforce
it,
especially
after
the
fact
I
didn't.
I
had
no
idea
really
what
was
going
on.
I've
only
been
open
about
a
month
and
a
half,
so
I
was
not
told
that
this
was
happening.
I
was
not
warned
at
all,
so
I
just
took
the
citation.
B
Absolutely
after
that
I
was
very
unaware.
I
didn't
know
what
to
expect
like.
I
said
this
is
a
new
new
thing
for
me
and
I
did
not
want
to
have
to
be
shut
down,
so
I
went
above
and
beyond
I
placed
out
signs
for
mass
coverings.
I
didn't
not
have
my
dj
announce
on
the
pa
system
and
I
walked
through
thoroughly
myself
and
made
sure
my
employees
and
that
patrons
had
our
mask.
L
B
B
B
L
B
B
C
C
Yes,
sir,
to
the
the
bar
owner.
L
He's
in
front
of
the
kiosk
okay.
C
B
C
B
C
So
you're
saying
you
open
a
bar
and
you
took
ownership,
didn't
know
anything.
You
know
about
our
the
governor's
order,
but
know
anything
about
the
city,
ordinance
of
of
being
an
operational
facility
within
the
city
of
tampa
hillsborough
county
and
from
the
time
that
code
enforced
it
to
the
second
time,
were
you
still
not
aware
that
there
was
a
a
mandate
for
for
social
discipline,
mass.
B
The
second
time
I
was,
I
was
very
aware-
and
I
did
go
above
and
beyond-
to
make
sure
I
wouldn't
get
another
citation
too
so.
M
I'm
just
here
listening
to
the
question,
an
answer
from
mr
good
and
the
owner
of
the
establishment
and
at
the
end
the
owner
of
the
establishment,
said
he
got
a
citation
because
one
patron
was
not
wearing
a
mask.
Is
it
one
patron
that
you
got
only
one
patron?
You
got
it
for
or
the
other
to
your
knowledge.
M
B
B
J
I
I
want
to
clarify
from
your
perspective
the
tell
tell
us
what
reasonable
efforts
that
you
made
between
the
december
18th
citation
and
the
in
the
january,
8th,
citation
and
and
and
then
and
then
I
have
one
follow-up
on
that.
B
I
purchased
over
a
thousand
masks.
I
had
meetings
meetings
with
my
staff
about
wearing
masks,
making
sure
that
customers
have
on
mask
anything
that
code
enforcement
was
asking
because
it
changed
it
went
from
customers
just
must
have
on
mask
to
now.
Customers.
Another
week
would
be,
customers
must
be
seated
so
every
it
continued
to
change.
So
I
would
have
weekly
meetings
with
my
staff
to
get
them
to
understand
the
seriousness
of
it
and
to
go
above
and
beyond
if
they
saw
a
customer
without
a
mask.
B
J
J
B
Yes,
we
had
weekly
meetings,
we
would
have
a
weekly
meeting
and
that
would
be
a
part
of
the
meeting.
As
far
as
you
know,
the
temperature
checks
as
far
as
making
sure
that
everyone
got
a
mask.
If
every
and
like
I
said
it,
it
changed
throughout
the
weeks
as
far
as
what
was
allowed
and
what
wasn't
allowed
it
didn't
change
it.
B
So
one
week
the
first
citation
from
my
understanding,
everyone
just
had
to
have
on
mask
then
it
became
everyone
must
be
seated.
So
you
know
we're
trying
to
make
these
changes
and
trying
to
we're
having
these
meetings.
So
everybody
is
aware
of
the
change
per
what
code
enforcement
is
telling
us
and
we're
trying
to
evolve
as
they're
evolving
with
the
changes.
B
So
I
did
everything
in
my
power
with
my
staff
to
make
them
aware
of
what
had
to
be
done
in
the
establishment
and
also
informing
the
patrons
as
they
came
in
even
before
they
walked
in
the
door.
We
would
let
them
know,
look
if
you
come
in,
you
must
have
on
a
mask
and
you
must
be
seating.
J
One
more
question
to
the
to
our
legal
counsel
to
the
city's
legal
counsel
is
prosecuting
this
case.
J
Okay,
so
I'm
sorry
to
dwell
on
the
photographs,
but
I
went
back
and
looked
at
the
photos
that
were
in
section
six
of
the
documents
you
provided
the
december
18
photos
are
stamped
date
stamped
with
the
and
those
I
thought
you
said.
Those
are
the
ones
we
should
ignore,
but
they're
date
stamped
with
the
with
the
address
of
this
club.
J
L
L
I'm
sorry
mike
nelson,
I'm
the
attorney
for
purple
heart
club,
as
well
as
a
property
owner.
H
I'm
sorry,
sir
chris
freeman
city
of
tampa,
okay,
the
pictures
you're
referring
to
on
the
18th
along
to
the
barter
house,
next
door.
It's
the
same
address
it's
just
it's
a
plus
18
1811,
north
15th
street.
Hey!
That's
where
the
confusion
was.
Those
pictures
should
not
have
been
put
into
this
case.
Okay
and.
L
I
I
guess
I
misspoke
I
own
the
property,
so
I'm
familiar
with
the
bar
next
door
as
well.
It's
the
barter
house,
restaurant.
I
guess
it
wasn't.
This
felt
this
young
man's
club.
J
J
O
E
Just
for
clarification
for
the
record
can
officer
inspector
riley.
Please
clarify
that
the
photographs
that
are
just
displayed
on
the
on
the
system
that
those
represent
the
photographs
that
were
taken
for
purple
heart
on
january,
8th
of
2021.
C
B
C
B
B
Every
time
that
they've
came
in
they've
probably
been
inside,
maybe
three
minutes
they
come
in.
They
walk
to
the
it's,
a
very
small
establishment.
They
walk
to
the
back,
they
walk
back
out
and
that's
it's
three
minutes.
C
Code,
unfortunately
riley
or
freeman
you
both
were
there.
Can
you
tell
me
how
long
were
you
there
at
the
club?
Did
you
hear
any
announcements
about
the
dj
and
rubbish
to
social
distance
in
mass.
H
H
And
the
only
thing
I
can
I
can
tell
is
to
add
to
this:
is
the
clubs
have
been
found
in
in
not
in
violation
because
they're
getting
smarter
they're
having
spotters
outside
their
doorman?
You
clearly
see
us
coming
down
the
street
to
where
they
can
go
in
the
club
to
make
an
announcement.
D
E
Yes,
that's
what
I
was
going
to
ask
if
I,
if
I
may,
examine
the.
E
D
E
Thank
you
again,
kamaria
pettis
mackel
again
for
the
record
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
I'd
like
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions
of
mr
and
I
apologize.
If
I
mispronounce
your
last
name,
neurotus.
E
Neuradas,
you
testified
that,
after
the
the
procedures
you
implemented,
those
were
done
after
you
received
your
first
citation
correct.
I
E
B
E
And
you
also
heard-
and
it's
correct
that-
isn't
it
true
that
no
one
who
none
of
the
patrons
if
they
were
not
wearing
masks,
they
were
not
removed
from
your
establishment,
correct.
B
E
At
any
point,
did
you
turn
off
the
lights,
turn
on
the
lights
of
the
establishments
to
again
make
a
further
announcement
to
ensure
that
there's
compliance
with
the
face
mask.
B
Yes,
we
actually,
there
were.
E
You-
and
it
was
your
previous
testimony
that
code
enforcement
was
only
at
your
establishment
for
three
minutes,
but
yet
inspector
riley
testified
that
she
was
there
for
at
least
10
10
10
minutes.
On
january,
8th
and
inspector
freeman
said
he
was
with
you
on
a
lengthy
amount
of
time
to
explain
the
rules,
for
you
explain
the
rules
to
you
correct.
D
Thank
you
very
much
all
right,
any
other
questions
at
all.
If
not,
we
can
go
to
item
number
nine.
If
there's
nothing
there,
I
believe
there
might
be
public
comment
anything
else.
If
not
we'll
go
to
a
public
comment.
Mr
shelby,
yes,
sir.
F
Yes,
thank
you
counselor
and
mr
naradas.
If
you
can
return
to
the
main
room,
you
can
observe
there
we'll
have
the
kiosk
sanitized
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
begin
public
comment.
C
C
F
At
the
answer
is,
sir:
this
is
a
a
public
hearing.
It's
in
the
sense
that
we
hadn't
contemplated
necessarily
the
public
commenting
on
this.
I
noticed
the
public
comment,
because
it
is
a
special
call.
General
public
comment
is
not
on
the
agenda.
F
If
there
are
people
here
who
are
specific
to
want
to
speak
to
this
item,
my
hope
is
that
it
is
competent
evidence,
in
other
words,
it's
relevant
and
material
to
what
you
have
in
front
of
you,
but
we
can't
control
that
this
ultimately
is
going
to
be
a
final
action
of
the
city
council.
So
that
being
the
case,
florida
statute's
best
practice
in
this
case
would
be
to
allow
the
public
to
have
the
right
to
address
it
before
you
take
final
action.
F
In
order
for
you
to
accept
what
they
have
to
say
and
the
weight
you
give,
it
has
to
be
relevant
and
material
and,
of
course,
the
both
sides
will
have
the
opportunity
to
address
anything
that
the
public
says
on
their
summation
and
rebuttal.
So
in
best
practice,
sir,
I
believe
it's
in
best
interest
to
hear
the
the
public
to
speak.
Thank
you,
sir.
J
You
know
we,
we
didn't
pass
these
orders,
okay,
we're
here
on
a
very
specific
criteria
of
whether
or
not
the
orders
were
followed
pursuant
to
the
various
codes
that
we're
looking
at
today.
But
in
regard
to
that
big
picture
issue
of
whether
or
not
people
in
the
community
think
it's
a
good
good
rule
or
a
good
order,
or
bad
order
or
good
law.
What
have
you
you
know?
Is
it
fair
to
say
that
that's
not
really
relevant
to
what
we're
doing
here
today.
F
That's
exactly
correct,
sir.
The
question
is
relevancy.
What
you
are
asked
to
decide
in
this
case
is
not
the
constitutionality
of
a
governor's
order.
And,
frankly,
if
someone
were
to
challenge
it,
they
need
to
have
two
things
number
one
is
the
proper
form
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
the
standing
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
that
is
something
that
this
council
provides.
Neither
of
so.
J
F
Thank
you
and
thank
you
councilman.
Thank
you
very
much
for
bringing
this
up
at
this
time,
because
certainly
you
cannot
consider
evidence.
That's
not.
F
To
your
decision
and
if
you
base
that
decision
on
irrelevant
evidence,
you
jeopardize
whatever
decision
you
make.
So
that's
a
very
good
point:
council
councilman,
ding
felder,
and
I
appreciate
you
doing
that
one
other
thing
with
regard
to
relevancy
the
economics
of
it
is
not
in
your
criteria.
The
economic
effect
of
one
thing
or
the
other
is
not
relevant
to
your
decisions.
F
C
Shelby
and
that's
why
I
raised
that
question.
I
don't
want
a
bunch
of
people
who
are
making
public
comment
and
don't
have
a
relationship
to
this
person's
case,
and
this
hearing
is
based
on
a
violation
of
the
ordinance
so
that
I
have
a
bunch
of
people.
Speaking
on
behalf
of
their
opinion
or
my
opinion
about
the
mayor's
order,
or
let
me
think
they'll
say
we
may
not
agree
with
the
order.
C
F
Yes
and
council,
if
it's
a
if
it's
the-
and
I
believe
it's
it's
wise
for
council
to
make
that
known
to
the
public-
that
the
issues
in
this
case
are
the
facts
as
presented
and
the
ordinance
upon
which
you
must
apply,
which
is,
in
this
case
27-318,
and
if
the
public
can
address
those
issues,
then
they'd
be
able
to
apply
relevant
information
that
you
may
be
able
to
use.
Otherwise,
it's
not
competent
substantial
evidence.
D
All
right,
I
see
three
speakers
at
the
kiosk.
If
you're
going
to
speak,
please
raise
your
right
hand,
we'll
swear
you
in.
D
J
D
F
G
H
Mara
cruz,
lance
and
I'm
here
just
on
behalf
of
public
comment
and
I'm
appalled
at
these
ordinances.
I
know
what
the
attorney
said,
whether
the
governor's
executive
order
is
relevant
or
the
mayor's
order
is
relevant.
But
here
we
have
our
mayor:
jane,
castor,
okay,
not
wearing
a
mask
in
public
and
not
social
distancing,
and
here
she's
asking
the
public
to
follow
these
rules.
H
Also,
I
don't
know
that
kovit
is
so
smart
that,
if
you're
seated
and
eating
you're
you're
okay,
not
to
wear
the
mask,
but
if
you're
standing
at
a
bar
drinking-
it's
not
okay
for
you
not
to
have
a
mask
on.
I
think
these
rules
and
regulations
are
ridiculous.
H
You
are
our
city
government
and
you
are
responsible
for
making
things
relevant
to
the
public,
and
I
believe
that
the
florida
has
no
mass
mandate
and
our
city
does
have
a
mass
mandate,
but
I
believe
that
it
is
overreaching
in
its
in
its
in
what
it's
doing
to
our
citizens
and
to
the
hardest
hit
through
covet,
and
this
is
my
public
comment.
Thank
you.
Thank.
O
A
D
O
O
My
name
is
christine
quinn,
I
am
a
u.s
citizen
and
a
citizen
of
the
state
of
florida,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
not
quite
understanding
what
this
whole
charade
is
all
about.
First
of
all,
if
these
are
ordinance
violations,
this
should
be
in
a
court
of
law.
I
don't
believe
that
any
of
the
city,
council,
men
or
people
that
we
have
elected
are
they
judge,
jury
and
the
attorneys.
Do
they
know
the
law?
O
Do
they
understand
the
law
they're
supposed
to
be
representing
the
best
public
health
for
our
community,
and
this
is
not
the
best
public
health
for
our
community.
Our
students
are
suffering.
Our
businesses
are
suffering.
This
needs
to
be
done
in
a
court
of
law.
We
did
not
get
enough
time
to
prepare.
We
should
have
had
a
24-hour
notice.
O
I
guess
it
had
to
be
in
business
hours
which
it
wasn't
presented
that
way.
So
we
need
to
continue
this,
no
matter
what
so
that
more
people
can
come
down
here.
The
public
can
be
more
aware
of
what
the
city
council,
which
is
completely
and
totally
overstepping
their
boundaries.
They
don't
have
the
law
behind
them
to
even
be
doing
this
against
a
businessman.
O
We
are
having
sex
trafficking,
rapes,
murders,
all
kinds
of
other
things
going
on
our
community
and
the
safety
of
our
children.
Getting
back
to
school
and
you're
worried
about.
If
one
person
was
standing,
it
didn't
have
a
mask
or
someone
was
sitting.
This
has
got
to
be
the
most
intelligent
virus
that
has
ever
gone
around.
O
If
it
knows
when
someone
is
sitting
and
someone
is
standing
and
somebody's
eating
or
has
a
mask
on
and
just
to
be
clear,
I
am
osha
certified
in
mask
mandates
and
the
city
would
have
to
have
a
comprehensive
written
plan
for
mask
mandates.
The
city
would
have
to
make
sure
that
every
employee
went
to
a
doctor
had
a
physical
that
those
masks
were
fitted
would
be
a
nine
or
the
n95.
O
They'd
have
to
be
fitted
and
changed
every
time
they
touched
them.
They
would
also
have
to
have
a
comprehensive
log
and
every
time
that
the
employee
was
mandated
to
wear
that
mask,
they
would
have
to
take
their
oxymeter,
have
them
sign
it
and
initial,
the
time
and
the
date,
and
then
every
30
meter
minutes
check
their
oxygen
level
if
it
drops
below
91
that
can
put
put
someone
in
severe
danger
of
organ
failure.
O
I
have
139
pages
of
why
masks
are
so
dangerous
and
why
employees
should
not
be
mandating
masks
without
knowledge,
without
doctor's
permission
and
without
monitoring
each
individual
employee,
as
they
wear
that
mask
I
want
to
know,
is
the
city
council
doing
that
is
the
mayor
doing
that
or
the
police
officers
city
council,
all
of
the
city,
employees,
trash
collectors,
everyone
have
they
sat
down
and
gone
through
this
139
page
mandate
of
what
health
safety
and
risk
involved
in
wearing
a
mask
oxygen
restriction
is
not
good
for
the
health.
That's
my
comment.
People
need
to
go.
O
F
Before
you
leave
ma'am
just
to
confirm,
there
was
a
question
as
to
whether
you
were
sworn.
Were
you
sworn
in.
O
A
P
P
Okay,
my
name
is
jason
kimball
and
I
honestly
can't
believe,
we've
arrived
at
this
point.
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
remarking
on
some
of
the
comments
from
the
city
council
attorney.
Martin
shelby.
It's
outrageous
honestly.
The
the
comments
that
he
made
prefacing.
This
public
comment
you
guys
are
all
elected
officials.
So
what
you
have
to
take
into
consideration
is
how
your
constituents
feel
and
how
we
expect
you
to
represent
us,
and
this
attempt
to
overstep
your
authority
is
outrageous.
The
public
doesn't
support
it.
P
You
guys
are
bringing
attention
on
yourselves
from
people
who
never
knew
when
the
city
council
met,
who
the
city
council
members
are.
You
guys
are
bringing
all
the
scrutiny
and
attention
on
yourselves,
because
the
public
does
not
agree
with
what
you
are
doing.
These
businesses
they
can
post
a
sign,
saying:
hey,
please
wear
a
mask.
They
can
also
assume
that
anybody
not
wearing
a
mask
has
an
exemption.
P
What
you
guys
are
trying
to
do
to
these
businesses
that
are
out
there
employing
people
trying
to
survive
is
outrageous.
I
don't
know
who
agrees
with
it.
I'm
sure
there's
some,
but
no
one
believes
that
you
should
be
able
to
force
these
guys
to
comply
with
these
mandates
or
shut
down
permanently
they're
done.
I
understand
that
you're,
not
technically
shutting
them
down
you're
just
making
it,
so
they
can't
make
money
and
operating
they
end
up
just
going
bankrupt
going
out
of
business.
P
P
If
you
guys
have
your
perspective
and
you
want
businesses
to
listen
to
you,
then
fine
call
a
meeting
with
them
talk
out
to
them
on
the
phone,
do
whatever
you
have
to
do
to
communicate
your
perspective,
but
for
enforcing
this
on
businesses
is
just
wrong
in
in
this.
I
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
are
trying
to
have
a
trial
here.
P
I
don't
know
what,
but
this
is
something
that
a
court
should
decide
and
then,
if
a
business
is
found
to
be
non-compliant,
then
you
guys
can
go
from
there
as
far
as
enforcement
actions
go,
but
you
guys
should
not
be
taking
any
enforcement
actions
against
businesses
that
are
just
trying
to
serve
the
community
and
employ
tampa
residents.
Thank
you.
D
D
G
Q
R
R
R
That
are
escorted
by
police,
using
taxpayer
money
to
enforce
unconstitutional
executive
orders
that
which
are
not
law
and
only
to
small
businesses
in
ibor
and
soho.
So
it
seems
as
though
there
is
some
kind
of
unethical
attack
on
small
businesses
and
and
the
people
that
use
these
small
businesses
in
everyday
life
and
around
our
communities.
R
D
D
D
All
right,
please
raise
your
right
hand.
We
will
swear
you
in
and
you
have
three
minutes
to
speak
after
you
say
your
name.
Yes,
sir,
my
name.
S
Is
mike
hayes,
I
just
have
a
couple
comments.
First
of
all,
the
comments
before
we
came
up
to
speak,
I
felt
they're
pathetic.
You
know
the
the
idea
that
you
know
you're
just
doing
your
job.
You
know
it's
okay,
to
destroy
a
business,
you
know
and
and
trying
to
wash
your
hands
of
it
saying
well,
you
know
this
is
what
we've
been
told,
so
we
have
to
do
it
and
the
comments
from
the
public
are
irrelevant.
I
think
that
was
the
exact
word
that
was
used.
S
It's
pretty
pretty
pathetic
and
I
think
you
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself
and
it's
a
disgrace
to
our
city.
The
couple
comments
I
want
to
make.
I
want
to
point
out
the
fact
dr
fauci
himself
said:
there's
no
reason
to
be
walking
around
with
a
mask
when
you're
in
the
middle
of
an
outbreak
wearing
a
mask
might
make
people
feel
a
little
bit
better
and
it
might
even
block
a
droplet,
but
it's
not
providing
the
perfect
protection
that
people
think
it
is
and
often
there
are
under
unintended
consequences.
S
Secondly,
I
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
straight
from
the
cdc.gov
website
in
2018
quote:
globally,
tuberculosis
is
the
leading
cause
of
death
by
an
infectious
disease.
In
2018,
an
estimated
10
million
people
became
ill
of
tuberculosis
and
1.5
million
people
died.
Did
we
hear
about
any
of
that?
Did
we
have
masks?
Were
we
shut
down?
Were
schools
shut
down?
Did
you
go
down
go
around
shutting
down
businesses?
S
No,
you
didn't
hear
about
it.
Why?
Because
it's
not
about
public
health,
it's
about
control,
it's
about
power
and
it's
about
money,
and
I
think
everybody
knows
that
deep
down.
You
also
know
that
it's
it's
absurd
to
think
that
walking
putting
on
a
mask
and
walking
into
a
restaurant
and
then
sitting
down
is
somehow
going
to
protect
you.
S
If
you
take
the
mask
off
once
you
sit
down
and
somehow
it
knows
to
not
get
not
to
be
infectious,
you
know
when
you
stand
up
or
excuse
me
when
you
sit
down,
so
we
all
know
it's
ridiculous.
You
know
deep
down
it's
ridiculous.
These
laws
are
ridiculous.
I
want
to
point
out
another
thing.
Some
people
may
not
be
aware
order
of
the
hillsborough
county
board
of
board
of
county
commissioners
amending
the
wearing
of
protective
face
coverings
order,
as
previously
amended
on
july
6,
2020
and
august
14
2020,
it's
on
9
c.
S
S
And
asked,
are
you
exempt?
Are
you
exempt
so
I
highly
doubt
they
asked
that.
K
K
David
williams,
all
right,
thank
you.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
just
point
out
that
there's
more
important
things
than
for
the
city
council
will
be
looking
at
pr
before
this.
This
is
this
is
silly.
This
is
just
silliness.
No
common
sense
whatsoever
covet
is
really
not
that
not
that
bad
we've
learned
a
lot
in
last
year
and
it's
nothing
but
just
a
cult
a
few
days
and
we're
over
it.
K
Some
people
will
get
sick,
but
most
people
like
99.5
percent,
survive
without
any
difficulty.
City
council
must
and
must
use
common
sense.
When
approaching
some
of
these
silly
little
mandates
these
businesses
and
these
bars
have
been
warned,
but
do
not
do
not
find
the
bars
the
bars
have
complied
with
your
with
your
request,
by
making
announcements
by
handing
out
five
thousand
dollars
worth
of
of
mass.
K
As
mrs
mr
nevada's
mentioned,
he
bought
it
over
a
thousand
mass
at
five
dollars.
A
piece:
that's
a
chunk
more
than
a
small
business
can
can
feasibly
handle
if
you're
going
to
do
any
fines
find
the
individual
who's
violating
not
the
business.
K
Do
not
charge
this
business
or
any
of
these
businesses
that
are
on
the
agenda
today
or
any
other
businesses
that
may
come
under
compliance
problems
in
the
future,
go
after
the
individual
and
correct
them
have
them
put
on
the
mask
the
bars
have
done,
and
the
small
business
have
done
what
they
can
do
by
making
announcements.
Otherwise,
if
they
become
the
face
mask
enforcers,
then
they're
they're,
disrupting
the
pleasure
of
the
individual
of
their
business
at
their
business
and
businesses.
K
J
D
Please
raise
your
right
hand,
we'll
swear
you
in,
and
you
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
Q
Q
Name
is
vanessa
vasquez,
and
I
am
here
as
a
concerned,
citizen
of
this
city.
It
is
truly
appalling
to
see
this
procedure.
This
kangaroo
court
that
you
guys
have
set
up
here
is
ridiculous
and
it's
shameful
to
see
that
you
guys
are
specifically
weaponizing
this
covid,
this
covid
pandemic,
to
target
these
small
businesses
in
our
in
our
community,
and
it
personally
feels
like
an
attack
on
all
of
us
when
you
attack
our
small
businesses.
Q
So,
yes,
all
eyes
are
on
you
guys
right
now
that
we,
the
people
of
tampa,
are
watching
each
and
every
one
of
you
making
these
decisions,
and
we
are
appalled
and
we
will
not
stand
for
it.
This
is
ridiculous,
and
I,
and-
and
I
cannot
believe
it-
it's
truly
sad
to
see
that
we,
this
is
the
state
of
affairs
that
we
are
in,
because
these
businesses
do
not
want
to
police
their
customers.
Q
D
All
right,
if
there's
no
other
public
comment
at
this
time,
if
we
can
go
to
the
respondents
rebuttal
and
then
we
have
the
city's
rebuttal,
and
this
would
conclude
this
hearing,
we
can
go
to
action
and
discussion,
so
this
the
respondent.
First,
yes,
sir.
L
Mike
nelson
again,
I
guess
I'm
here
in
two
capacities:
the
attorney
for
purple
heart
and
also
landowner.
The
hearing
meeting
started
with
the
first
city
attorney
telling
us
that
all
these
people
were
warned.
There
is
zero
evidence
that
there
was
ever
any
warning.
In
fact,
the
evidence
is
the
first
time
we
heard
from
code
enforcement
is
our
first
violation.
That's
december
18th,
while
there
might
not
be
a
legal
requirement
to
give
a
warning,
fundamental
fairness
would
require
it,
especially
with
dealing
with
a
brand
new
business.
L
Young
man
works,
hard,
saves
some
money
buys
a
business
three
weeks
after
he
buys
it.
Here.
Comes
the
city
and
telling
us
that
80
percent
of
our
patrons
had
mass,
but
20
percent
didn't.
If
100
are
drinking,
then
what
we
got
20
of
people
with
drinks.
You
know
what
I
mean
that
might
be
standing.
You
know,
and
now
we're
also
hearing
that
okay,
it's
okay,
to
stand
by
the
dance
floor.
It
wasn't
before
I'd
never
been
in
this.
L
This
particular
bar
when
it
was
operating,
but
I
think
you
can
go
into
a
lot
of
bars
and
find
20
of
the
people
that
don't
have
a
mask
on
at
any
given
time,
especially
when
they're
you
know
drinking
and
eating.
Yes,
some
people
are
standing,
it's
a
small
club
if
two
or
three
you
know
people.
If
eight
people,
you
know
drive
in
two
cars
and
they
all
ain't
walk
into
the
club
it's
hard
to,
then
you
know
socially
separate
them.
L
Young
man
is
anybody,
tells
you
that
he's
been.
You
know
they
haven't
tried
to
work
and
haven't
tried
to
comply
and
haven't
tried
to
do
the
right
thing
with
his
life
savings
at
stake
here.
That
is
incorrect,
they're
doing
everything
we
can,
and
I
would
ask
that
you
not
impose
any
fine.
If
there's
some,
I
don't
even
know
what
the
level
of
you
know.
We
could
pay
a
fine
I'll
pay
it
you
know,
but
to
close
them
is
you
know
fundamentally
just
wrong?
Did
you
want
to
say
anything.
B
So
yeah
so
pretty
much.
I
understand
you
know
the
law
as
far
as
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I
did
everything
possible
that
I
could
at
it
every
week
got
worse
for
me.
I
felt
like
I
was
harassed
at
some
points.
B
I
did
everything
in
my
power
to
make
sure
that
patrons
were
safe,
that
my
employees
were
safe
as
a
new
business
owner
only
in
business
roughly
a
little
over
two
months.
B
I
was
all
I
was
very
overwhelmed
with
getting
my
business
on
track
to
be
somewhat
successful
and
then
got
hit
with
the
curveball
of
covid,
of
course,
and
code
enforcement
so
trying
to
build
structure
trying
to
do
right
by
the
law
and
the
city.
I
did
everything
possible.
I
put
the
signs
up.
I
made
the
announcements
you
know
my
employees.
B
They
probably
hated
me
the
last
two
months
well,
the
last
month.
Definitely
with
the
stress
that
I
put
them
through
so
that
we
could
stay
in
business,
we're
a
small
business.
We
only
can
house
on
like
65
people
in
our
establishment,
so
closing
us
down
will
be
very
damaging
to
me.
I
put
my
life
savings
into
this.
So
it
would
damage
me
as
a
business
owner,
I'm
a
really
small
business.
B
I
can't
put
600
people
in
my
establishment,
so
all
I
ask
is
that
you
understand,
as
a
small
business
owner
that
that
has
put
my
life
savings
into
this.
My
wife
of
22
years
had
to
deal
with
the
stress
that
I
had
to
bring
home
to
my
family
of
putting
my
life
savings
into
this
to
know
that
being
shut
down.
B
It
would
domino
affect
us
on
losing
everything,
so
I
ask
you
to
just
if
you
can
dig
deep
down
inside
to
understand
where
I'm
coming
from
I'm
not
a
millionaire,
I'm
just
trying
to
provide
for
my
family.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair
susan,
johnson
valessi
and
your
assistant
city
attorney.
I
just
wanted
to
address
very
briefly
because
a
couple
of
the
folks
in
public
comment
talked
about
notice,
so
we
we
did
satisfy
the
notice
requirements
of
27-318.
G
It
is,
though,
a
health
and
sanitation,
as
I
said
in
my
earlier
comments,
a
health
and
sanitation
regulation
which
every
owner
of
an
av
establishment,
must
comply
with
in
accordance
with
their
alcoholic
beverage
approval,
and
that
is
what
27
through
18
gives
you
ability
to
address
today
and
consider
is
either.
Is
the
suspension
of
the
ab
approval
for
failing
to
comply
with
the
requirements
of
those
approvals,
and
so
specifically
to
this
case,
the
mass
orders
that
are
there
in
place,
both
the
city
and
the
county
they're
not
they're,
not
moving
targets.
They
are.
G
They
are
orders
that
have
been
in
place
for
some
number
of
months
now,
and
the
requirements
have
been
the
same
for
the
duration
of
the
order,
and
this
is
this
is
a
fairly
new
establishment.
I
understand
from
the
testimony,
but
we
can
you
know
that's
why
we
consider
that
first
first
visit
on
december
18th
as
part
of
the
education
process
for
this
fairly
new
establishment,
but
you
heard
the
testimony
of
inspector
friedman
that
he
spent
a
considerable
amount
of
time
with
management
on
that
day,
educating
them
and
talking
to
them
about
the
requirements.
G
Similarly,
on
december
18th
there
were
employees
that
were
observed
not
wearing
masks
and
despite
the
inspectors
inspector
freeman's
education
efforts
on
december
18th,
you
had
employees
again
not
wearing
masks
on
january
8th
of
2021.,
and
so
I
think
it's
clear
and
the
city
has
established
that,
despite
the
reasonable
efforts
that
the
city
made
to
make
the
establishment
aware
of
the
mass
requirements
and
the
minimum
requirements
to
be
deemed
to
have
made
reasonable
effort,
the
establishment
failed
to
make
those
reasonable
efforts.
And
again,
you
know
we're
here
again
as
a
last
resort.
G
We
don't
bring
these
cases
after
a
first
citation.
In
fact,
this
is
the
second
citation
and
we
only
brought
these
cases
to
you
after
repeated
violations
at
least
two
violations,
and
so
the
city
has
proved
that,
and
I
and
I
believe
the
owner
acknowledged
that
there
were
violations
of
the
mask
orders
at
his
establishment,
both
on
december
18
and
on
january,
8th
of
2021,
and
so
because
of
that.
G
And
we
ask
that
the
city
consider
or
the
council
consider
suspending
the
ability
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
for
three
days
for
this
establishment
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
D
Any
questions
counseling.
D
G
That
is
correct.
There
were,
there
were,
what's
called
petitions
for
rid
of
prohibition
filed
by
not
this
establishment,
but
several
other
establishments
who
are
subject
to
these
notices
of
intent
and
the
petition
sought
to
prohibit
or
a
declaration
from
the
judge,
prohibiting
counsel
from
holding
these
hearings
and,
in
fact,
asking
the
judge
to
declare
that
city
council
was
required
to
wait
until
the
county
court
acted
on.
C
C
We
understand
that
they're
hurting
the
crunch.
My
family
is
a
small
business.
We
have
to
wear
massive
funeral
home
and
graveside
services
and
everything
so
we
have
to
comply
as
well,
because
there
are
violations
we
don't.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
the
public
knows
that
this
is
not
something
that
council
just
ordered
to
go
out.
This
order
came
from
nowhere,
we're
just
a
body
here
that
has
to
be
the
you
hate
to
say
the
enforcer
of
what
the
rule
is
and
what
was
brought
before
us.
C
G
D
L
The
report
just
one
statement:
there
was
never
a
prior
warning
to
this
business.
Maybe
the
other
businesses
had
warning
so
our
first
violation
of
december
18th
is
the.
What
they
say
is
the
warning
so
we're
here
today
on
really
one
violation:
the
january
you're,
going
to
shut
the
business
down
for
one
violation.
Just
I
want
the
record
to
be
clear
about
that.
L
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
I
just
I
had
a
question
in
regard
to
our
standard
of
review.
Mr
shelby.
J
As
those
of
us
who've
practiced
or
served
as
jurors
in
in
criminal
cases,
you
know
the
standard
of
review
is,
is
beyond
a
reasonable
doubt.
Have
you,
mr
shelby?
Have
you
or
any
other
attorneys
involved,
determined
what
our
standard
do?
J
We
have
a
standard
that
we
should
be
looking
at
at
the
evidence
other
than
we
know
what
the
standard
of
advertising
evidence
is
is
competent
and
substantial
evidence,
but
when
we
get
to
reviewing
that
evidence,
should
it
be
preponderance
of
the
evidence
or
beyond
a
reasonable
doubt
or
that
sort
of
thing
I
know
people
might
think,
I'm
splitting
hairs.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
all
on
the
same
page
in
terms
of
how
we
view
that
evidence.
That's
my
question,
mr
chairman,
and
then
I
do
have
a
statement
and
a
motion.
D
All
right
after
we
close
the
public
hearing,
we'll
take
motions.
Mr
shelby,
yes,
sir.
F
Yes,
well
again,
this
is
in
response
to
an
action
under
chapter
27,
your
land
development
code,
the
circumstances
under
which
somebody
obtained
the
right
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages
at
a
particular
place
of
business
establishment,
and
that
is
a
quasi-judicial
matter.
This
is
not
a
court
of
law.
This
is
not
a
criminal
case.
F
This
is
not
a
jury
trial
and,
in
fact
this
is
a
mechanism,
that's
in
your
code
to
be
able
to
suspend
or
revoke
the
privilege
that
this
board
or
its
previous
board,
but
this
body
certainly
has
given
to
a
location
to
be
able
to
sell
alcoholic
beverages.
So
answer
your
question:
councilman
dingfelder!
This
is
a
quasi-judicial
matter
and
the
standard
for
review
is
a
writ
of
certiorari
to
circuit
court
and
it
would
be
as
in
other,
quasi-judicial
matters.
F
The
court
is
going
to
be
looking
for
the
notice
and
the
opportunity
to
be
heard
that
due
process
would
was
afforded
that
the
essential
requirements
of
law
have
been
met
and
that
the
decision
of
this
board
after
reviewing
the
record,
is
based
on
competent
and
substantial
evidence.
So,
if
you're
going
to
make
any
findings,
findings
of
fact
certainly
would
be
appropriate
to
give
that
sort
of
determination
to
the
circuit
court.
And
that's
that's
the
standard
review.
N
For
the
members
of
the
public,
either
watching
or
downstairs
spoke
out,
can
you
just
repeat
what
sectional
law
this
is
and
why
it's
relevant
and
also
where
the
executive
orders
came
from
and
and
why
they're
applicable
and
then
could
you
also
give
examples
in
the
past?
I
haven't
been
on
council
very
long.
Could
you
give
examples
in
the
past
where
maybe
this
this
law
would
vote
for
other
health
reasons.
G
This
these
hearings
are
brought
pursuant
to
land
development
code,
section
27-318
c1,
which
again
authorizes
city
council
to
after
a
public
hearing
to
consider
suspension
of
alcoholic
beverage
sales
for
cause
and
the
section
we're
focusing
on
item
f
of
the
laundry
list
of
items
that
council
could
consider
suspension
for
cause,
but
that
that
particular
one
section
f
is
a
failure
to
comply
with
any
provisions
of
the
health
and
sanitation
ordinances
of
the
city,
the
county
or
the
state
after
receiving
reasonable
notice.
G
And
so
again,
because
the
mayor's
and
the
county's
executive
orders
were
issued
in
response
to
a
declared
statewide
public
health
emergency.
They
do
have
the
force
and
effective
law
and
effectively
our
local
health
and
sanitation
regulations.
And
so
council
can
consider
failure
to
comply
with
those
orders
as
a
basis
for
suspension
of
alcoholic
beverage
sales
for
the.
N
N
I'm
sorry
to
put
you
on
the
spot.
What,
but,
could
you
and
you
haven't
been
back
to
the
city
very
long
either,
but
to
be
fair,
but
do
you
remember
any
other
cases
where
this
article
has
been
invoked
like
for
exa,
and
this
is
a
hypothetical,
but
if,
if
a
bar
was
overrun
with
cockroaches
and
rats,
would
would
that
then
process
come
before
us
and
I
think
in
that
case
it
would
not
be
political.
N
G
Correct,
that's
the
very
type
of
health
and
sanitation
regulation
that
council
could
take
into
consideration
and
that
council
could
consider
suspending
if
there
were
was
a
failure
to
comply
with
the
prohibition
against
having
cockroaches
running
around
in
the
kitchen.
Yes,
similarly
to
this
you're
welcome.
Thank.
D
You
very
much
if
there's
no
other
further
comments
or
questions.
Can
we
get
a
motion
to
close
this
public
hearing?
We
have
motion
clothes
from
councilman,
good,
second
councilman
c
troll
in
favor,
aye,
aye,
councilman,
dink,
voter
you
mentioned
emotion,
sir,
or
that
you
were
going
to
make
or
wanted
to
make.
Yes.
J
J
One
of
them
we
enforced
it
and
the
other
one
was
a
settlement,
a
voluntary
settlement,
but
let's
as
a
community,
I
I
think
it's
critical,
that
we
not
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
we
are
still
in
the
middle
of
this
pandemic.
J
J
This
is
not
the
simple
flu,
a
half
million
people
is
more
and-
and
I
wish
councilman
vieira
was
here-
he's
our
historian,
that's
more
than
the
than
war
board,
one
world
war
ii
and
vietnam,
combined
in
terms
of
americans,
dead.
J
J
It's
important
in
every
part
of
our
community,
whether
or
not
at
bars,
restaurants,
family
gatherings,
etc.
We're
not
going
into
family
gatherings
and
enforcing
it,
but
we
could
urge
people
and
we
should
urge
people
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
the
keep
the
mass
on
and
the
social
distance
until
everybody
gets
their
shots
and
we
get
control
of
this
pandemic,
all
right
I'll
get
off
that
soapbox,
but
I
think
it's
important
for
the
community
to
hear
that
this
is
why
we're
doing
it.
We
don't
want
to
shut
bars
down
for
a
day.
J
We
don't
want
to
be
here
doing
this,
but
we
also
need
compliance
and
we
need
cooperation
in
the
community.
Now,
with
that
said,
we
have
to
go
to
each
case
individually
and
it's
the
city's,
it's
the
city
staff
and
the
city
legal
department's
burden
to
present
evidence
to
show
violation
and
specifically
to
show
that
the
the
owner
did
not
make
reasonable
efforts
to
to
meet
the
code.
J
I
think
that
the
the
evidence
is
really
contradictory
here
at
first,
we
were
provided
with
photographs
from
the
8th
december
18th
of
2020
and
then
january
8th
2021,
and
then
we
were
advised
that
the
the
december
18th
photographs
should
be
disregarded
and
there
was
kind
of
confusion.
J
Then
staff
said
oh
yeah,
we
we
showed
up
and
we
trained
all
of
these
clubs
prior
to
december
18th,
including
this
club.
We
gave
them
training,
we
gave
them
information,
we
gave
them
warnings,
but
then,
as
the
hearing
went
on,
the
the
evidence
showed
that,
prior
to
december
18th,
there's
no
evidence
of
anybody
from
the
city
visiting
this
particular
club,
because
this
particular
club
had
only
been
open,
maybe
less
than
a
month.
So
there's
a
lot
of
contradictory
evidence
and
there's
very
firm
evidence.
J
I
believe
from
this
gentleman
who
seems
very
sincere,
who
just
took
his
family
savings
and
opened
up
this
club
that
that
perhaps
on
the
18th,
he
you
know
neither
wasn't
aware
or
wasn't
doing
as
much
as
he
should,
but
he
testified
very
very
strongly,
I
believe,
between
the
18th
and
january
8th,
which
was
his
second
alleged
violation
day
and
citation
date
that
he
made
all
reasonable
efforts,
including
handing
out
math
taking
temperature
having
patrons
removed
posting
the
appropriate
signage,
instructing
his
staff
on
numerous
occasions
only
10
10
people
on
a
staff.
J
So
it's
not
like
he's,
got
100
staff
people
to
to
do
all
the
right
things,
and-
and
in
this
case
and
again
with
all
due
respect
to
to
to
our
staff
and
to
our
legal
department,
I
don't
believe
that
there's
adequate
evidence
to
enforce.
On
this
particular
case.
We
have
many
more
cases
to
go
and
each
case
is
going
to
rise
and
fall
based
on
the
evidence
that
we
hear
the
competent
substantial
evidence
that
we
hear.
But
in
this
case
I
don't
believe,
there's
a
there's,
an
adequate
factual
predicate
to
support
the
city's
allegations.
J
F
D
F
And
finally,
with
regard
to
the
motion,
councilman
dingfelder,
I
would
request
consistent
with
27
318
that
the
finding
be
that
that
there
is
no
violation,
rather
than
rather
than
a
dismissal
or
dismissal,
is
really
not
contemplated
in
the
statute
in
the
code.
J
Would
modify
my
motion
slightly
to
to
state
that
there
is
no
violation
supported
the
there
is
inadequate
evidence
to
support
a
finding
of
a
violation.
I
believe
that
all
reasonable
efforts
were
made
by
this
by
this
particular
establishment
and
the
owner
slash
manager.
Thank
you.
D
C
C
C
Now
when
you
look
at
the
owners
saying
there
were
maybe
some
technical
violations
and
you
put
on
top
of
possible
that
our
photographs-
and
we
talked
about
a
log
not
being
there
there's
some
of
the
issues
I
can
see
where
you're
going
to
gain
filter
and
I
don't
miss
shelby.
If
you
you
can
ask
this
question,
no
violation.
C
Is
it
that
staff
is
asking
for
three
days?
Is
it
that
we
still
could
find
or
limit
that
number
down
to
a
lesser
day
or
another
oppose
a
fine
versus
the
recommendation
of
staff
for
the
three
days.
F
The
answer
to
that
question,
sir,
is
this:
is
bifurcated.
It's
it's
a
two-stage
process.
If,
in
fact,
you
find
and
putting
aside
the
motion,
that's
on
the
floor,
in
fact,
for
a
purpose
of
discussion.
If
you
do
find
that
there's
a
violation
and
the
council
does
make
that
finding,
then
you
go
into
the
penalty
phase
your
penalty
phase
for
a
first
violation.
I
can
review
it
with
you
more
in
full,
but
it's
not
appropriate
at
this
time,
but
it
could
be
from
zero
to
30
days.
F
The
penalty
could
be
whatever
council
makes
or
no
penalty
is
an
option
as
well
or
zero
up
to
30
days,
but
that
is
an
option
of
counsel
dependent
on
what
what
its
motion
and
what
its
action
is
and
again
you
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
I
would.
D
I
N
Yes,
councilman
dingfelder
said
it
much
more
eloquently
than
than
I
will
or
would
have,
but
you
know
I,
if
you
look
at
last
week,
I'm
not
afraid
to
uphold
these
rules,
even
though
we
didn't
put
them
in
place,
because
we
have
to
ultimately
be
consistent
and
and
protect
the
health
and
safety
of
our
community
and
then
in
other
categories
and
other
cases.
We
would
have
done
that
and
the
public
wants
us
to
uphold
the
law.
N
I
don't
think
we
can
be
selective
about
which
laws
we
want
to
support,
which
ones
we
don't
based
on
our
political
beliefs.
We
have
to
do.
We
have
to
support
the
laws
that
are
there
or
the
public
can
act
to
change
them
and
again
we
didn't
put
these
laws
in
place
or
these
rules
in
place,
but
in
in
this
particular
case
I
I
I
think
the
evidence
is
then
I
think
that
it
there
is.
N
There
is
a
unusual
circumstance
here
that
it's
a
new
business
owner
and
a
new
bar
and
I'm
not
convinced
by
the
evidence
of
the
the
person
being
trained
in
it
in
advance.
N
Yes,
it's
the
obligation
of
new
businesses
to
know
what
the
rules
are,
but
we're
working
in
a
very
weird
environment
right
now,
and
so
I
I
I
feel
like
in
this
case,
they
they
they
should
have
had
more
time
in
another
time.
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
mix-up
of
the
of
the
evidence
and
that
there
were
pictures
that
that
were
not
from
this
bar
and
it's
it's
confusing
about
what
what
it
all
is.
N
Although
I
I
appreciate
and
respect
the
the
staff
that
have
done
this
and
you
know
voted
with
them
last
week.
I
would
vote
against
this
this
time,
but
also
with
the
caveat
that,
if
it,
if
this
part
comes
back
again,
I
would
be
the
first
to
make
a
motion
to
take
away
their
license
for
30
days.
So
I
I
will
be
supporting
this
motion,
which
is
not
to
not
to
find
that
they
are
in
violation.
Thank
you.
D
All
right
and
before
we
go
to
a
vote,
I'm
going
to
support
the
motion
of
no
violation
that
was
stated
eloquently
by
councilman,
ding,
felder
and
also
taking
into
consideration.
This
is
a
new
business.
This
is
somebody
that's
put
their
life
savings
into
this.
This
is
someone
that
you
know,
as
the
evidence
has
shown,
you
know
it's
a
very
limited
period
between
starting
the
business
being
cited,
having
the
violation
and
then
coming
here
with
just
a
within
just
a
few
months.
You
know
these
are
unprecedented
times.
D
I
come
from
a
family
of
small
business
people
from
my
grandfather,
my
parents,
whatever
it
is,
it
is
not
easy,
and
this
last
year
it
has
been
extremely
difficult
because
it's
literally
been
every
obstacle
that
can
be
thrown
at
someone
has
been
thrown
at
someone
I
mentioned
the
other
day,
not
everyone
qualified
for
ppp,
not
everybody
had
a
savings
to
keep
their
businesses
afloat.
Many
businesses
closed.
I
know
that
because
I've
seen
it
or
I
read
about
it,
each
and
every
day
it's
somebody
new,
that's
affected
by
this
pandemic.
D
I
appreciate
the
service
done
by
our
code
enforcement
officers
in
the
city,
but
we
take
this
on
a
case-by-case
basis.
I
don't
think
this
gentleman
should
be
cited.
His
business
should
not
be
cited,
and
I
think
the
evidence
proves
that.
So
having
said
that,
if
there's
no
other
further
comment,
councilman
miranda.
M
M
It's
not
based
on
small
business
or
big
business
or
money,
people
or
people
with
no
money
or
whether
you
have
a
savings
but
you're
not
have
to
say
that
it's
not
part
of
any
investigatory
or
any
section
of
the
law,
and-
and
you
cannot
take
that
into
evidence
that,
because
it's
a
small
business,
we're
going
to
do
something
different
and
I
understand
gentleman's
predicament.
I
understand
what
he's
done.
I
understand
that
he's
put
everything
he
had
into
the
business.
M
M
M
M
M
When
you
go
back
and
continue
to
look
at
this,
how
often
do
we
have
to
sit
not
that
all
of
them
are
very
found
guilty?
I
hope
not,
but
the
evidence
that
was
put
up
here
is
not
the
evidence
according
to
the
section
of
law,
the
section
of
which
was
signed
and
put
into
effect,
sometimes
back
so
in
2018.
M
Then
one
january
8th
of
21
is
when
the
violation
occurred
again.
That's
when
he
was
cited,
it
was
decided
twice
sorry,
the
section
would
have
read:
violation
of
2018
of
2000.
we're
not
listening
to
the
2018
2000
violation,
because
there's
never
one,
given
the
violation
occurred
on
january,
the
8th
of
21
12
18
of
20..
M
So
therefore
there
was
a
attempt
to
understand
what
the
facts
were
coming.
If
you
violated
it
again,
so
I'm
not
saying
that
the
gentleman
misled
us,
I'm
saying
that
men
are
hurt,
and
these
are
the
things
that
we're
looking
at
and
I'm
I'm
I'm
just
cognitive
to
the
fact
that
the
city
has
treated
all
of
ybor
city
soho,
and
I
would
imagine
other
areas
of
town
that
we've
never
asked
them
where
they've
been.
M
M
Maybe
it
wasn't
thoroughly
explained,
but
you
really
have
to
thoroughly
explain
it
and
let's
talk
about
a
new
business,
can
you
get
a
driver's
license?
Do
they
tell
you?
Okay,
you
got
a
driver's
license,
but
you
got
to
have
the
insurance
before
you
can
go
drive
you
get
another
thing.
This
business,
like
all
businesses,
have
to
understand
what
business
they're
in
it's
up
to
them
to
understand
what
the
laws
are
not
up
to
us.
M
J
Yep,
just
a
quick
one,
quick
follow-up
and
I
promise
it'll
be
cool
the
in
response
to
councilman,
sutra
and
councilman
goods,
who
both
addressed
the
photographs.
Again
with
all
due
respect
to
staff,
we
were
told
by
legal
staff
to
disregard
the
december
18
photographs
december
18.
Photographs
were
very
clear.
They
showed
a
bartender,
they
showed
a
bartender
who
didn't
have
a
mask
on
and
but
then
we
were
told
to
disregard
those,
because
that
was
the
club
next
door.
That
happens
to
have
the
same
address.
J
So
that's
why
it
showed
up
with
the
same
address
on
there.
The
next
photograph
set
of
photographs
that
we
were
told
we
could
look
at
were
january,
8th
and
most
photographs.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
could
see
them
better
than
I
could,
but
they
are
extremely
difficult
to
discern
anything.
I
see
a
lot
of
purple
and
pink
and
bodies
I
can't
see
who
they
are.
I
can't
see
what
they're
doing
where
they're
standing
or
I
get
no
frame
of
reference
whatsoever.
J
So
if
we're
relying
on
those
photographs
again,
I
I
would
say
they're
extremely
extremely.
I
don't
believe
they
meet
the
level
of
competent,
substantial
evidence
that
I
think
we
were
instructed
by
mr
shabbat
reliant.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
C
Mr
dean,
felder,
okay,
I'm
not
relying
on
the
photographs,
I'm
relying
on
the
actual
owner's
testimony.
His
statements,
I'm
relying
on
the
fact
that
code
was
there
and
actually
saw
the
violations.
So
the
picture
is
not
totally
for
me,
but
I
relied
on
what
the
what
the
actual
bar
owner
said
in
his
statements.
C
H
C
A
naive
guy,
I've
been
around
the
block
a
long
time
for
26
years
and
mr
mr
miranda
said
it
perfectly.
When
you
deal
with
alcohol
in
your
business
with
alcohol,
there
comes
a
lot
of
responsibility
with
alcohol,
and
bar
owners
know
do's
and
don'ts
about
alcohol,
and
I'm
not
saying
the
yield
man
is
not
being
truthful.
All
I'm
saying
is
that
as
a
person,
who's
been
around
a
long
long
time
have
given
citations
and
done
things
in
bars,
work
bars
and
establishments.
C
I
know
better
that
to
know
that
rules
and
regulations
had
to
be
addressed
and
have
been
told
to
probably
employees
and
I'm
sure,
so
I'm
not
relying
on
just
the
evidence
of
the
photographs,
I'm
relying
on
the
own
testimony
of
the
bar
owner,
but
I
would
say,
and
that's
why
it
has
to
show
the
question:
what
is
the
regulations
of
this
council
to
impose
sanctions?
Now?
I
do
agree,
he
is
a
young
owner.
C
I
do
agree
that
we
don't
want
to
hurt
small
businesses,
but
you
know
again
my
family's
a
small
business
and
we
have
to
have
mandates
that
are
required
and
we
have
to
follow
those
many
regardless,
regardless
of
they
can't
be
mistakes
because
lives
are
at
stake
in
our
business
when
we
we
make
them.
So
again.
That's
why
I
asked
that
question.
C
I
will
not
be
supporting
the
motion
unless
we
go
to
a
second
term
and
then
we
can
look
at
some
smaller
sanctions
for
the
for
the
owner,
because
I
do
think
that
there
are
a
few
caveats
to
the
photographs
and
and
some
other
individual
things,
but
I
think
for
the
most
part,
I
think
the
city
has
proven
that
case
because
of
the
bar
owner's
own
admission
and
statements.
Thank
you.
Councilman.
I
I
It's
not
for
me
to
go,
find
them
out.
It's
mandatory
from
the
state
that
I
have
to
adhere
to
them.
Councilman
dingfielder!
I
can
see
through
these
pictures,
even
though
you
say
they're
bad,
I
can
still
say
see
two
bartenders
one
that
clearly
has
a
tip
jar
next
to
him
that
says:
tips
on
it
and
the
other
one
that
is
behind
the
bar
councilman
dinkfelder.
I
don't
know
if
you're
looking
at
these
on
your
on
your
computer
or
not,
but
I'm
seeing
them
here
in
big
eight
by
ten.
I
am
not.
I.
I
D
N
F
F
If
a
motion
in
a
quasi-judicial
matter
fails
to
receive
at
least
four
votes,
the
motion
fails
and
if
another
motion
in
order
is
not
made,
the
public
hearing
shall
be
automatically
reopened
and
continued
to
a
time
certain
at
the
next
regularly
scheduled
council
meeting
and
that
next
regularly
scheduled
council
meeting
is
thursday
march
4th.
That's
your
rules,
council.
So
the
question
is:
is
there
another
motion
in
order
or
shall
this
hearing
just
be
reopened
and
continue
to
march
forth?.
D
M
D
We
have
motion
from
councilman
good
second
councilman
citro,
and
this
is
a
violations
work
committed.
Yes,
sir.
L
D
A
N
A
C
F
Get
that,
if,
if
I
can
just
to
remind
you
the
process,
what
normally
happens
under
this
rule,
what
happens
is
I
will
be
in
touch
with
council
member
vieira
who
was
absent.
He
will
have
the
opportunity
between
now
and
march,
4th
to
have
reviewed
the
hearing
and
be
prepared
to
vote.
My
suggestion
would
be
that
the
testimony
is
has
been
taken.
There
will
be
no
additional
public
comment
taken
on
this.
F
Councilman
goodes
would
have
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions
if
he
felt
the
need
to
and
if
not
the
hearing
would
then
be
closed
and
a
motion
would
be
taken
and
a
vote
would
be
taken
on
that
day.
Thank
you.
D
M
F
Get
a
reminder,
council
that
the
webinar
is
staying
live,
so
please
mute
your
microphones
thank.