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B
C
Of
the
tampa
city
council
is
being
conducted
with
a
live
in-person
quorum
of
the
city
council
present
in
city
council
chambers.
However,
in
light
of
continuing
cobit
19
government
issued
health
standards
or
guidance
now,
in
effect,
the
members
of
the
public
have
the
ability
to
participate
virtually
through
video
teleconferencing
referred
to
by
florida
statutes
and
rules
as
communications,
media
technology
or
cmt.
C
Now
the
public
is
able
to
watch
tonight's
meeting
on
spectrum
channel
640
frontier
channel
15
and
on
the
internet
at
tampa.gov
forward.
Slash
live
stream,
one
word
now:
there
have
been
multiple
ways
of
the
public
to
be
able
to
participate
and
those
are
found
on
the
city
council's
web
page
at
tampa.gov.net
forward,
slash
city
council.
C
One
word
in
order
to
participate
remotely
through
cmt
pre-registration
was
required
and
that
information
on
how
to
do
that
and
what
needs
to
be
done
is
at
tampa.gov
forward
slash
quasi-qasi
now,
council,
there
have
been
opportunities
to
send
in
comments
in
advance
via
u.s,
mail
and
email
and
written
comments
received
by
email
or
u.s.
C
I
should
point
out
that,
if
you
are
going
to
be
participating
on
the
go
to
meeting
platform
remotely,
please
do
not
use
the
chat
box
to
communicate
with
city
council
members.
That's
for
technical
issues.
Only
again,
please
do
not
communicate
using
the
chat
box.
All
of
these
rules
that
I
have
talked
about
about
cmt
have
been
placed
in
the
notice
that
has
been
posted
and
also
within
the
agenda,
and
I
would
ask
city
council
to
make
a
motion
to
adopt
those
rules
to
waive
the
existing
rules
to
adopt
the
cmt
associated
rules.
A
Adopt
some
rent,
mr
venezuela's
move
situation.
Second,
on
favorite
all
right:
the
opposed
voting
carrier.
C
Now,
after
you
open
the
public
hearings,
mr
chairman,
I
believe
jennifer
malone
will
be
discussing
with
council
of
the
housekeeping
matters
on
tonight's.
A
C
Well,
if
we
can,
before
mrs
balloon
begins
with
the
item
number
one
if
she
could
just
address
some
of
the
cred,
how
requests
for
continuances
or
other
housekeeping
matters,
perhaps.
D
Good
evening,
chairman
item
number
seven
tacpa
2114,
the
applicant
has
requested
a
continuance
as
well
as
item
number
12,
tacpa
21-13,
and
I
believe
that
they
are
here
to
request
those
to
use
tonight.
I
would
also
ask
that
I'm.
C
C
E
I
move
item
seven
b,
consider
continue
to
january
20th,
2022.
E
Would
be
not
said,
but
I
would
imagine
six
o'clock
in
the
evening.
A
D
B
Yes,
teresa
caddick
is
online.
She
just
need
to
you
herself
and
turn
on
her
video.
F
C
My
name
is
martin
shelby,
I'm
the
city
council
attorney
rather
than
get
into
the
facts
tonight
and
I
believe,
did
you
say
february
22nd.
F
That
seems
when
I
requested
they
said
that
was
the
earliest
available.
Okay,.
C
Well,
we
have
february
24th,
which
is
a
thursday.
According
to
the
calendar,
thursday
february
24th
council
does
not
meet
on
the
22nd.
F
C
F
C
F
Well,
we
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
misconceptions.
I
mean
I
think,
that's
where
I
was
headed.
F
C
And
and
correct
me
for
from
the
planning
commission's
perspective
with
regard
to
notice,
if
there
is
public
who
is
members
of
the
public
who
are
listening,
whether
downstairs
or
maybe
those
who
have
registered
online
and
the
matter
now
is
continued,
the
only
notice
they
are
receiving
would
be
the
notice
that
they
hear
tonight.
Is
that
correct?
Ms
malone.
C
A
C
Number
12
will
not
be
heard
tonight
and
it
is
being
continued
by
city
council
to
the
24th
of
february
february,
24th
of
2022
at
6
p.m.
There
will
be
no
other
notice
given.
So
please
do
make
a
note
of
it,
and
please
know
that
if
you
are
online,
the
matter
will
not
be
heard
tonight
but
has
been
continued
by
motion
of
city
council.
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
D
A
D
H
D
That
was
it
and
then,
whenever
we're
ready
to
take
item
number
one
tacpa
21-21,
I
would
just
like
permission
to
share
my
screen.
A
D
I
Thank
you
mark
hudson
planning,
commission
staff.
Can
you
hear
me?
I
I
The
reason
that
I'm
here
this
evening
is
to
introduce
to
you
a
new
element
for
your
plan
surrounding
the
issue
of
property
rights.
This
new
element
is
required
by
some
action
taken
during
the
last
legislative
session,
known
as
house
bill.
59.
I
I
Our
staff
and
your
staff
has
analyzed
this
and
we
think
that
the
impacts
of
this
element
are
rather
limited.
The
city
of
tampa
has
always
been
very
mindful
to
protect
private
property
rights
of
its
citizens.
However,
there
is
this
requirement
to
include
this
language
now
into
your
comprehensive
plan.
There
is
a
penalty
for
failure
to
do
so,
and
primarily
what
it
does
is.
It
was
imposes
delays
in
the
processing
of
other
private
and
public
planned
amendments
that
have
been
initiated
after
july
first
of
this
year.
If
I
could
have
the
next
slide.
I
New
element
is
rather
slim.
We
were
advised
by
the
florida
department
of
economic
opportunity
to
be
very
mindful
and
stick
to
the
intent
of
the
legislation.
I
There
is
always
opportunities
at
later
dates
and
future
phases
to
add
additional
things
if
it's
so
the
desire
of
the
city,
but
currently
we
have
one
goal,
one
objective
and
one
policy:
the
policy
reads:
acknowledge
private
property
rights
to
ensure
their
consideration
in
the
local
decision-making
processes
of
the
city
of
tampa,
and
the
objective
is
to
respect
private
property
rights
in
the
city
of
tampa.
If
I
could
have
the
next
slide-
and
I
won't
read
through
this-
is
the
single
policy,
but
this
language
comes
verbatim
out
of
the
legislation.
I
I
I
Our
staff
did
review
this
to
ensure
that
it
was
consistent
with
your
plan
and
in
particular,
we
looked
at
the
goals
20
of
them
that
are
in
your
future
language
summit,
which
are
basically
designed
to
implement
your
overall
vision
of
your
community.
I
These
were
goals
related
to
the
liberal
cities,
the
central
city,
mixed
use,
corridors
and
alike,
and
we
feel
that
this
new
element
will
not
impede
your
ability
to
to
reach
those
goals
we
did.
We
do
believe
that
this
meets
the
requirements
of
house
bill
59,
and
we
actually
asked
for
an
unofficial
review
by
the
department
of
economic
opportunity
and
they
concurred
with
us
that
they
felt
that
this
does
as
well.
I
I
The
planning
commission
reviewed
this
on
august
24th
and
found
it
consistent
with
the
imagine,
2040
tampa
conference
of
plan,
we're
here
to
hold
a
transmittal
hearing
this
evening
and
we're
projecting
an
adoption
hearing
date
to
bring
this
back
to
you
at
the
beginning
of
next
year
january
27th,
I
will
say
we're
doing
this
for
all
the
jurisdictions
in
hillsborough
county
on
the
21st
temple
terrace
transmitted
their
property
rights
helmet,
which
is
very
similar
to
the
one
that
I
just
presented
to
you.
I
Plant
city
did
the
same
on
the
27th
this
past
monday,
and
we
expect
the
county
to
do
likewise
in
the
latter
half
of
october.
If
I
could
have
the
next
slide
with
that,
planning
commission
recommends
that
the
proposed
text
amendment
be
found
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
imagine
imagine
2040
tampa
conference
of
plan.
Again
this
is
a
trans-middle
hearing
and
I
stand
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
E
Sir,
if
I
may,
first
of
all,
I
understand
what
the
policies
are
with
the
government
side
and
so
forth.
I
believe
I
do,
but
then
by
ordinance
I'll,
be
sent
the
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan,
but
this
is
my
policy,
so
I
have
a
concern
there.
Then,
when
you
look
at
the
so
by
I
was
reading
the
the
whole
tax
on
this
number
one
item,
then
I
find
things
that
were
interesting.
Number
three,
which
fits
the
plan
specifically
names,
809
west
line,
ball
avenue
number
four,
it's
a
category
in
general
for
a
mixed
use.
E
Number
five,
however,
is
a
little
different.
It
specifically
says
north
of
animal
drive
and
east
of
noon
through
parkway.
It
doesn't
say
how
far
north
or
how
far
east
you
could
go
all
the
way
to
st
petersburg.
I
guess
number
six:
it
talks
about
collins
park
only
number
seven.
Only
talks
about
temple
crest
park
number
eight
only
talks
about
woodlawn
cemetery
number
nine
only
speaks
directly
to
the
daniel
del
rio
pool,
which
I
believe
is
cascade
park.
I'm
not
sure
and
number
10
only
speaks
to
she
ever
circled
apart.
E
So
when
I
look
at
that,
some
little
red
flags
come
to
appear
to
my
head
and
you
can
almost
tell
since
I
don't
try
to
hide
them
with
hair.
You
have
how
far
north
and
how
far
east
can
we
answer
at
least
that
question.
E
This
is
you're
talking
about
the
what
we
can
do
and
not
do
with
the
changes
of
the
boundaries
of
the
what
you
want
less
than
one
acre
more
than
one
acre
or
so
forth.
At
the
same
thing,
we're
talking
about.
I
Perhaps
mr
haye
or
miss
malone
might
be
able
to
respond.
Okay.
J
Councilman
david
haye,
with
your
planning
commission
staff.
I
this
was
originally
item
15
and
we
have
moved
15
up
to
number
one
which
is
t.
This
is
tacpa
21-21.
E
J
Well,
it's
specifically
in
regards
to
house
bill
59
right
and
what
this
legislature
has
directed
jurisdiction
to
implement
within
their
comprehensive
plan.
Right.
E
A
E
A
A
A
K
L
L
Chapter
162
of
florida
statutes
requires
that
the
scheduled
projects,
a
subset
of
the
cip,
which
addresses
level
of
service
and
adopted
into
the
conference
comprehensive
plan,
be
updated
on
an
annual
basis.
The
update
would
replace
the
existing
schedule
found
in
the
comprehensive
plan
with
the
scheduled
list
listed
in
your
packets
city
staff,
identify
projects
in
the
cip
that
affect
the
level
of
service
and
it's
these
items
that
make
up
the
schedule
of
projects
which
are
then
reviewed
by
planning
commission
staff.
L
L
Gentlemen,
there
are
five
program
areas
included
in
the
statement:
water,
wastewater
transportation,
storm
water
and
infrastructure
mobility
and
consists
of
a
total
of
seven
projects
that
address
levels
of
service.
A
total
five-year
funding
amount
for
these
projects
is
approximately
1.78
billion
dollars.
L
L
At
its
14th
september,
public
care
and
the
planning
commission
found
the
at
the
time
proposed:
fy
22,
fy26
capital
improvement,
section
schedule
of
projects
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
imagine,
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan
and
recommend
that
city
council
adopt
schedule
a
project.
Please
do
the
conference
plan.
Gentlemen.
This
concludes
my
presentation,
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
A
Anybody
from
the
public
speak
on
this
item
on
the
second
floor
or
anyone
registered
speak
on
the
side.
E
L
Yes,
sir,
the
the
the
funds
are
already
with
the
capital
improvement
program
and
the
city's
annual
budget.
It's
just
that.
A
part
of
the
cip,
that's
presented
to
the
council
with
the
budget
is
the
schedule
of
projects
scheduled
projects,
addresses
levels
of
service
and
goes
and
must
be
adopted
per
state
statute,
comprehensive
plan.
E
No,
it's
just
so
many
figures
here,
it's
hard
to
find
them
all
at
one.
Second,
okay,.
K
Thank
you
very
much.
I
have
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading
consideration
an
ordinance
amending
the
imagine,
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan,
capital
improvement
program
and
capital
improvement
section
by
replacing
the
capital
improvement
program
and
the
capital
improvement
section
schedule
of
projects
with
the
capital,
improvement
program
and
capital
improvement
schedule
of
projects
for
fiscal
year
2022
through
fiscal
year,
2026,
providing
repeal
of
all
ordinances
and
conflict
providing
for
severability
providing
an
effective
date.
K
B
D
Okay-
this
is
item
number
one
tampa
comprehensive
plan
text,
amendment
21-01,
it's
an
adoption
hearing
for
the
for
area
ratio
blend
in
the
central
tampa
planning
district
as
a
refresher.
This
was
privately
initiated.
It
was
transmitted
to
the
department
of
economic
opportunity
by
this
council
on
june
24.
2021
deo
had
no
comment
on
the
proposed
amendment.
D
So
land
use
policy
5.1.6
already
exists
in
the
plan,
and
the
proposal
is
just
to
expand
it
to
allow
this.
This
provision
to
take
place
outside
of
an
urban
village
within
a
half
mile,
but
it
cannot
be
utilized
outside
of
the
central
tampa
planning
district.
D
I'm
the
planning,
commission
and
staff
did
find
the
language
consistent
with
several
comprehensive
plan
objectives
and
policies,
and
we
are
recommending
consistency
today
for
adoption.
And
that
concludes
my
presentation
and
I'm
available
for
questions,
and
I
know
the
applicant
is
on
the
line
as
well.
E
You
recognize
well,
thank
you
very
much
and
I
hate
to
be
an
old
horse
like
myself,
but
this
is
the
second
number
one.
That's
why
I
was
a
little
confused
in
the
beginning,
but
let
me
say
this:
this
is
by
policy
and
these
are
set
nearly
by
ordinance.
E
Mobility
staff
does
not
object
to
blah
blah
blah
809
west
line
ball
avenue.
Mobility
staff
city
of
tampa
does
not
object
to
what
amendment
to
collins
park.
Amendment
of
temp
temple
heights
temple
crest
park,
amendment
of
woodlawn
cemetery,
I'm
under
the
daniel
del
rio
pool
sierra
circle
park.
However,
when
I
come
to
what
I
call
number
five,
it
speaks
about
the
future
land
use
element
and
it
says
in
broad
form,
generally
north
of
edinburgh
drive.
E
Well,
anything
north
of
animal
drive
can
go
all
the
way
to
the
end
of
district
six,
which
is
precinct
109.
If
I
recall-
and
it's
out
there
near
the
northernmost
part
on
the
other
side
of
fowler
avenue,
then
you
go
east
of
newt
parkway
and
here's
where
it
becomes
tricky
because
east
of
north
of
new
street
parkway,
neutral
parkway
starts
in
lake
and
14th
street,
which
is
now
14th
street
new
street
parkway,
all
the
way
heading
south
in
a
meandering
manner
to
the
corner
of
cass
and
nebraska.
E
So
my
question
is
to
myself:
that's
why
I'm
bringing
it
up
to
everybody
else,
so
myself
can
understand.
What's
going
on
it's
very
simple:
how
far
north
are
we
going
with
this
and
how
far
east
is
east
because
it
could
be
a
small
parcel
of
land
or
a
big
one?
It
says
got
to
be
more,
I
believe,
than
one
acre
at
least
one
acre,
but
it
doesn't
say
how
big-
and
this
is
really
really
big.
D
Yes,
I'm
just
going
to
show
my
screen
again.
I
think
I
understand
the
question
a
little
bit
better,
so
this
is
the
outlined
in
green.
D
What
kind
of
order
some
worms,
but
this
is
the
central
tampa
planning
district,
so
it
encompasses
a
lot
of
the
city
and
then
these
urban
villages
are
what's
in
these
colors
here,
so
this
right
now,
this
provision
can
only
be
utilized
within
the
urban
villages,
but
the
applicant
is
requesting
that
the
provision
be
utilized
within
a
half-mile
radius
of
an
urban
village,
but
not
outside
of
the
central
tampa
planning
district.
E
Well,
you
I
mentioned
mobility
dump
to
the
one
very
specific
sierra
circle
park:
very
pacific,
daniel
del
rio
pool
very
specific
temple,
crest
park,
very
pacific
collins
park
and
very
pacific
809
west
line
ball
avenue.
But
when
it
comes
to
this
one
that
I
call
number
five,
it's
not
very
specific,
it's
broad
form!
E
So
if
you
look
at
your
map,
it
says
north
of
animal
drive
and
you
can
you
can
just
about
tell
where
it's
at
it's
and
then
east
of
neutral,
parkway,
well,
east
of
new
york
parkway.
You
can
go
all
the
way
to
10
feet.
J
Councilman
this
is
david
haye.
I
I
think
ar
are
you
referencing
the
city's
comments
in
regards
to
the
other
amendments,
because
sometimes
the
city
includes
their
comments
in
one
email
for
all
the
amendments,
I
believe
that's
what
you're
referencing.
A
A
E
D
We
yes,
sir,
and
the
applicant
is
here,
I
think
he's
has,
can
probably
help
answer
the
question
and
has
a
presentation
good.
E
M
M
M
We
were
here
in
june
late
june
for
the
transmittal
hearing
to
deo,
and
we
actually
had
a
pretty
full
conversation
about
what
this
does,
what
this
text
amendment
does
and
what
it
does
very
specifically
councilman
ding,
felder
and
some
other
members
of
council
had
some
concerns.
M
I
think
the
specific
quote
was
that
we
were
using
a
hammer
when
all
we
needed
was
a
fly
swatter,
and
so
at
that
same
hearing,
council
was
kind
enough
to
let
us
work
on
a
more
narrowly
tailored
text,
amendment
which
this
council
unanimously
approved
the
transmittal
of
up
to
tallahassee
and
then,
since
june,
the
florida
department
of
economic
opportunity
had
had
no
objections.
E
I
see
what
you
have
here,
but
I
I
can't
digest
it
because
it's
so
small
and
I
what
you
just
said-
and
I
believe
mr
hudson
all
you
said-
is
correct.
However,
what
happens
in
politics
is
that
you
reference
something
we
voted
on
without
really
knowing
exactly
what
we
voted
on.
This
could
be
some
land
east
of
of
of
nukesville,
parkway
and
west
north
no
more
north
and
palm
across
all
the
way
out,
or
it
could
be
all
the
way
out
to
well.
M
Yeah
so
councilman,
this
is
a
text
amendment
and
so,
unlike
I
think,
most
of
the
other
map
map
amendments
that
you
have
before
you,
and
you
mentioned
some
addresses
and
some
some
specific
dedic
city,
dedicated
parks
and
some
of
your
remarks.
This
amendment
before
you
is
just
to
add
a
paragraph
of
words
into
the
comprehensive
plan.
It
doesn't
change
the
status
of
any
individual
piece
of
land
at
all
that
it
does
not
do
that.
This
again
is
is
a
text
amendment.
M
M
If
your
project
is
at
least
an
acre
and
you're
going
through
a
a
pd
rezoning
or
a
pda
rezoning,
something
that's
going
to
come
to
this
console.
So
I
I
can't
not
necessarily
show
you
exactly.
Every
single
piece
of
land
that
this
may
affect
in
the
future,
but
generally
it
is
the
areas
that
are
within
one
half
mile
of
these
colorful
shapes
on
screen.
Those
are
the
urban
villages
and
if,
if
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
my
presentation,
just
to
underscore
a
little
bit
about
why
we're
requesting
this.
E
I
I
can
understand
what
what
you're
alluding
to
sir.
I
appreciate
it
very
much,
but
this
is
just
not
specific
enough
for
me
because
it
it
jingles
at
least
one
acre.
That's
fine,
one
half
radius
of
an
urban
village
boundary.
I
understand
that
and-
and
nothing
can
be-
shall
not
apply
to
any
lands
outside
of
the
central
tampa
planning.
I
understand
that.
However,
it's
still
a
very
large
portion
of
land
that
compasses,
so
you
may
have
one
here
and
one
here
or
you
may
have
them
together,
making
something
that
equals
eight
or
ten
acres.
M
So
again,
the
problem
is,
is
that
you
have
these
different,
intensities,
different
densities,
but
then
a
p
e
and
the
text
amendment
that
we
have
crafted
and
largely
with
some
with
counseling
dingfelder's
suggestion
is
really
about
as
narrow
as
as
this
can
get
as
councilman
brando
saluted
to
we.
We
have
a
lot
of
restrictions
in
place
and
again
this
can
only
be
utilized
if
it's
going
to
go
through
a
planned
development
or
a
pda.
M
So
this
isn't
some
release
or
delegation
of
this
council's
authority
when
it
comes
to
how
it's
going
to
be
used
anytime,
any
piece
of
land.
Any
developer
wants
to
use
this
they're
going
to
have
to
come
to
city
council
and
if
there
is
a
reason
why
this
council
is
uncomfortable
with
the
development
they're
proposing
and
utilizing
it,
then
the
council
will
have
the
discretion
to
to
deny
that
again.
M
The
original
scope
of
the
application
was
that
it
could
be
anywhere
in
the
central
tampa
planning
district
that
has
now
been
significantly
reduced
solely
to
the
parcels
that
are
within
a
half
mile
of
that
urban
village
boundary
that
are
an
acre
at
least
in
size
and
and
which
are
going
to
go
through
a
pd
or
pda
rezoning.
M
This
allows
us
to
avoid
that
and
be
more
flexible,
and
that's
that's
why
we're
asking
for
this
this
evening
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
other
questions
that
other
other
council
members
might
have.
K
N
M
Yes
I'll
happen,
I'd
like
a
little
bit
of
time
for
a
bottle,
if
possible,
but
all
right.
Okay,.
A
All
right
anybody
here
to
speak
on
the
side.
A
B
A
A
Yes,
sir
private
initiated,
mr
mrs
miranda's
main
contention
to
this
project
is:
it
gives
no
boundary
limits.
J
Council
members,
if
I
may
address
something
that
was
brought
up,
mr
hey,
you
recognized,
I
I
believe
councilman
miranda
has
brought
up
page
11
of
the
packet
age.
11
is
an
email
from
the
mobility
department.
J
In
regards
to
the
february
cycle
of
amendments
which
this
amendment
was
one
of
many
amendments.
How
the
mobility
department
in
the
city
responds
to
our
requests
for
information.
J
Is
they
provide
one
email
with
a
whole
bunch
of
different
amendments
on
it
and
each
comment
is
outlined,
so
the
only
reason
why
this
email
is
included
in
your
packet
is
because
it
references
at
the
top
this
one
particular
amendment
2101.,
all
the
other
ones
that
are
referenced
on
page
11
are
other
amendments
that,
and
I
believe
2105
was
brought
up
that
was
approved
by
council
in
july
that
amendment.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
all
those
comments
on
that
page
below
2101
does
not
apply
to
this
amendment.
E
A
I
think
mr
dean
fell
is
looking
up.
Can
we
give
him
a
few
more
seconds
and
before
I
we
move
on
the
side.
O
M
It's
on
behalf
of
the
gasworks
development,
the
darrell
shaw,
keller,
development,
that
that's
that's
what
this
proposal
is
aimed
at
fixing,
but
instead
of
just
applying
it
to
that
project,
we're
using
a
text
amendment
to
limit
its
scope,
because,
while
the
gas
forks
project
is
the
first
one
that
I
think
may
have
revealed
this,
although
shortcoming
in
the
comp
plan,
this
is
a
good
idea.
O
J
Well,
I
I
think
I'm
going
to
turn
this
over
to
jennifer,
because
jennifer
was
the
cape
planner
regarding
this,
and
she
could
probably
give
you
a
little
more
information.
D
Sure
so,
right
now,
when
there's
a
land
use
line
like
if
a
parcel
is
split,
we're
very
specific
and
and
it's
not
in
an
urban
village,
we
have
to
be
very
specific
with
how
the
density
and
intensity
is
allocated
with
that
line.
That's
on
the
parcel
with
this
amendment,
and
this
is
already
allowed
in
the
urban
villages.
Only
an
applicant
can
blend
the
density
and
intensity
or
spread
it
across
the
site
if
there
are
two
future
land
use
designations.
D
So
this
amendment
is
requesting
to
expand
that
to
parcels
outside
of
urban
villages
within
a
half-mile
radius
and
only
within
the
central
tampa
planning
district
and
all
of
the
urban
villages
are
in
the
central
tampa
planning
district
already,
but
the
half-mile
radius
just
to
make
sure
we
just
don't
want
if
the
radius
goes
outside
of
the
central
tampa
district
that
you
know
they
can't
use
this
provision
outside
of
the
central
tampa
planning
district.
J
J
And
one
follow-up
this
was
presented
previously
to
council
and
I
believe
this
is
negotiated,
a
language
that
occurred
that
evening
that
then
you
all
voted
to
transmit
up
to
deo
right
on
june
24th.
D
N
Oh,
I
I
wasn't
I
actually
I
was.
I
was
muting
and
unmuting
myself
on
my
computer,
but
I
will
say
something
I
mean
given
that
this
you
know.
I
understand
the
concerns
on
this
potentially
being
too
expansive,
but
we
sent
it
back
to
you
know
narrowly
tailored
a
little
bit.
That
doesn't
necessarily
mean
you
vote
for
it,
but
you
know
it
it's.
N
I
I
think
that
takes
care
of,
at
least
on
on
my
end,
some
of
those
initial
concerns
that
sort
of
raised
the
red
flag,
but
just
my
two
thoughts,
I'll,
probably
chime
in
later,
but
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Q
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair
susan,
johnson,
velez
legal
department.
I
did
want
to
clarify
and
to
follow
up
on
mr
miranda's
comments
this.
This
is
a
text
and
tyler's
comments
as
well.
This
is
a
text
amendment,
and
so
it
does
not
apply
as
proposed
to
a
specific
piece
of
property,
but
it
would
apply
to
all
properties
that
fall
within
the
description
of
the
of
the
amendment,
so
within
the
central
planning
district
and
within
a
mile
radius
of
those
urban
villages.
Q
The
map
that
I
believe
is
part
of
ms
malone's
presentation
does
show
the
area
in
which
this
text
amendment
could
be
applied
to
specific
pieces
of
property.
If
that
clarifies
so
so
your
consideration
is
whether,
as
a
policy,
you
would
like
to
change
the
current
policy
in
the
comp
plan
to
allow
the
proposal.
That's
before
you
this
evening,
whether
you
believe
that
that's
a
good
policy
decision.
E
Mr
chairman,
that's
exactly
it
mr
les
said
it
much
better
than
I
did.
I
said
we
do
it
by
orders.
Now
this
is
my
policy
and
and
then
I
I
I'm
not
objected
to
anything
other
than
it
doesn't
specifically
say
the
rest
of
them
that
I
read
and
I
understand
that
was
and
notice
what
they
said
but
remember
in
june,
you
voted
for
it.
E
What
happens
politically
is
that
we
deal
with
so
many
things
that
so
many
times
and
so
quickly
that
you
blame
us,
but
not
you
for
saying
as
well
as
please
don't
take
that
personal.
Then
it's
us
to
say
no,
we
voted
for
it,
but
did
we
fairly
understand
that?
Well
you
voted
for
it
and
then
this
is
what
happens
when
you
have
something
as
vague
as
this
north
of
something
and
east
of
something
else.
Well,
that
could
be
orlando
lakes
and
that
could
be
plant
city.
I
mean
st
petersburg
heading
east,
so
I
I
don't.
E
A
All
right:
well,
we
have
nobody
to
speak
on
this
item
and
there's
no
race
to
guess
inside
them.
Correct
there.
M
Thank
you
chairman.
I
I
think
there's
some
confusion
about
this
and
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
continuance.
This
is
a
good
idea.
It's
an
important
idea
for
a
very
important
project
in
tampa
the
gas
works
project,
like
all
of
you,
which
all
of
you
are
familiar
with,
so
at
the
risk
of
this
getting
denied
tonight
due
to
some
confusion.
M
That
is
understandable,
but
I
think
detrimental
to
the
success
of
an
important
project
in
the
urban
core
of
the
city.
I
I'd
like
to
request
a
continuance
to
the
earliest
possible
date
so
that
I
can
have
the
opportunity
councilman
miranda
to
sit
with
you
and
talk
about
this
and
anyone
else
who
has
a
little
bit
of
skepticism
about
that.
M
I
understand
that
I
understand
this
reads
vaguely,
but
this
is
the
most
specific
way
to
describe
what
we're
trying
to
do,
without
literally
just
having
it
apply
to
a
single
project,
which
I
don't
think
is,
is
good
planning
or
fair.
So
I
would
ask
council's
discretion
for
for
a
continuance
this
evening.
C
Now
we
need
a
date
who
is
there
a
date
that
would
be
able
to
ms
malone?
Would
you
be
able
to
assist
on
this.
D
Sure,
I'm
I'm
not
sure
I
don't
have
rot.
I
don't
have
the
city
caseload
in
front
of
me,
but
I
know
we
have
plan
amendments
going
on
the
evening
of
january
27th.
C
It
looks
like
there's
only
one
night
meeting
in
both
november
and
december
because
of
the
holidays,
and
I
don't
know
whether,
if
those
are
full-
and
I
don't
know
if
city
staff
knows
the
the
the
the
number
of
cases
that
have
been
set
for
that
night,
it
depends
how
long
this
item
takes.
Council
does.
C
M
Much
january
works.
This
will
be
very
quick,
the
next
time
it's
on
here,
because
I
will
work
very
hard
to
talk
to
each
of
you
about
this
longer
than
you'd,
probably
like
me
too,
but
I
don't
want
to
burden,
but
it's
already
a
busy
schedule.
So
bank
january
works
for
me.
C
Just
just
a
reminder,
mr
hudson
did
suggest
that
he
wanted
to
talk
with
city
council,
just
a
reminder
that
this
matter,
because
it
affects
the
comprehensive
plan,
has
been
deemed
to
be
a
legislative
matter.
There
is
no
concern
about
ex
parte
communications
that
need
to
be
disclosed
on
this.
You
can
hear
from
all
parties
relative
to
legislative
matters.
C
J
It
now
all
right
the
next
item
for
your
review
this
evening.
This
is
an
adoption
hearing
for
tacpa
21-04.
This
is
in
regards
to
the
neighborhood
mixed
use.
Future
land
use
categories.
J
This
is
publicly
initiated
by
the
city
of
tampa.
It
was
transmitted
to
the
department
of
economic
economic
opportunity
on
july
22nd
of
2021
and
deo
had
no
comment
regarding
the
request.
J
J
Currently,
the
neighborhood
mixed
use,
35
is
the
only
neighborhood
mixed
use
category
that
has
actually
been
placed
on
land
here
we
are,
this
large
circle
is
the
west
riverfront
area.
Is
you
know
this
is
the
river
here
this.
This
is
the
interstate
275
down
here.
This
is
the
large
area
of
nmu
35,
and
then
there
is
a
small
pocket
just
to
the
south
south
of
the
city,
building
on
north
boulevard,
actually,
which
is
right
here-
it's
down,
I
believe,
that's
cyprus,.
J
J
It
also
is
consistent
with
the
promotion
of
the
redevelopment
of
the
west
riverfront
area
and
based
on
that,
your
planning
commission
does
recommend
that
the
proposed
text
amount
be
found
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
imagine
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I
believe
randy
gore's
from
the
city
is
also
online
and
may
have
a
presentation
as
well
or
or
it's
available
for
questions.
N
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
randy
goer
city
planning
department.
I'll
just
be
brief.
If
you
remember
this
was
the
text
amendment
to
allow
the
non-residential
uses
that
would
be
allowed
in
the
category
to
take
advantage
of
the
same
far
as
the
residential
or
mixed
use
projects,
and
specifically
in
the
west
river
area,
there
are
a
few
non-residential
projects
that
we
expect
to
see,
one
of
them
a
grocery.
N
B
B
Both
planning,
commission
and
city
staff
have
recommended
approval
of
the
comp
plan
amendment
after
a
careful
examination
of
the
history
of
this
area.
We
really
appreciate
planning,
commission
and
city
staff
for
recognizing
this
issue
and
working
with
our
team
to
move
forward
with
the
comp
plan
amendment,
because
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
the
city
and
the
west
river
community,
and
yesterday
we
actually
celebrated
the
grand
opening
of
three
towers
in
west
river
and
we
believe
this
amendment
will
allow
the
team
to
continue
this
record
of
success.
F
G
A
A
Mr
vera,
can
you
handle
some
force?
I
remember
two.
N
Yes,
sir,
mr
chair,
I
move,
can
you?
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
Yes,
sir
sorry,
I
move
a
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading
consideration
an
ordinance
amending
the
imagined,
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan,
future
land
use
element
to
amend
the
neighborhood
mixed
use,
16,
nmu,
16,
neighborhood,
mixed
use,
24
nmu,
24
and
neighborhood
makes
235
and
s235
categories
through
new
breakfast
and
vertical
business
use
allowing
all
development
to
have
far
1.5
providing
the
fuel.
B
B
A
Can
say
if
you
have
not
been
by,
I
was
by
the
west
river
boulevard
apartments.
Yesterday
they
look
immaculate,
you
don't.
You
won't
know
who's
living
in
those
apartments.
There's
low
income,
mixed
income,
because
the
apartments
all
look
the
same,
the
amenities
in
the
apartment.
They
all
have
washer
dryer,
there's
no
laundry
in
it.
So
the
floors
are
no
carpet
they're,
very
nice.
So
I'm
glad
that
our
housing
department
would
teach
temp.
Tim
hollister
did
a
great
job
on
that
project.
D
Continuing
council
jennifer
malone
again
on
item
number
three,
I'm
filling
in
for
danny
collins,
so
this
is
a
2106,
so
we're
going
to
go
over
a
couple
parks
in
the
next
couple
minutes,
2106
is
collins
park,
2107
is
temple
crest
park
and
2108
is
the
one
cemetery
and,
as
you
know,
this
is
part
of
the
ongoing
initiative
to
publicly
to
recognize
existing
city
of
tampa
parks
on
the
adopted
future
landis
map,
and
these
are
all
consistent
with
the
plan.
D
D
Kind
of
between
west
south
view
avenue
and
west
decal
avenue.
I
have
some
sight
pictures
it's
a
very
small
park
and
the
request
is
to
go
from
residential
10
to
recreational
open
space.
This
is
going
to
remove
any
potential
for
drilling
units
or
non-residential
square
footage,
and
with
that
we
recommend
consistency.
A
C
C
Because
the
council,
if
you
wish
to
just
hear
the
presentations,
you
can
close
those
public
hearings,
you
could
actually
open
the
public
hearings,
three
four
and
five
to
the
public,
to
anybody
to
speak
to
those
three
items,
and
then
we've
done
that
before
you
can
then
just
read
the
ordinances
and
vote
on
them
separately.
That.
A
C
C
D
D
The
acreage
threshold,
was
already
transmitted
to
the
department
of
economic
opportunity
in
june,
and
they
had
no
comment
but
just
as
a
refresher
here,
it
is
most
of
it
is
recreational
open
space,
there's
just
a
little
portion
down
on
the
south,
which
is
residential,
20
and
then
on
the
north,
which
is
residential
10,
and
the
proposal
would
be
to
take
the
entire
site
to
recreational
open
space
and
it's
consistent.
D
D
This
is
the
portion
that's
owned
by
the
city
of
tampa
it's
under
the
public,
so
my
public
future
land
use
now,
but
the
code
and
and
the
way
that
this
process
has
worked
is
we're
proposing
the
recreational
open
space,
future
land
use
for
the
parcel,
that's
under
city
ownership
and
that's
consistent
as
well.
E
E
D
N
O
You
recognize
that.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
jennifer.
Looking
at
the
map,
that's
in
front
of
us,
the
the
upper
left
corner
is,
is
the
showman's
property
two
two
different
parcels,
the
lower
left
corner
is
the
church,
which
is
also
privately
owned,
private
non-profit
it's
within
the
woodlawn
block,
but
it's
privately
owned
just
like
showmans.
But
what
is
that
sliver?
D
O
It
said
it
said
I
I've
driven
by
many
times
it
says:
benay,
israel,
yes,
sir,
but
geographically
you
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
that
between
now
and
and
second
reading,
because
geographically,
it's
my
recollection
that
vinay
israel
butts
immediately
up
to
showmans
up
there
in
that
corner,
where
the
where
the
green
is
up
at
the
top.
I
don't
want
to
make
a
big
deal
about
it
tonight,
but
but.
D
We
looked
at
this
on
a
parcel
level
and
we're
very
careful-
and
I
don't
know
if
david
haye
has
his
camera
on
if
he
wants
to
chime
in,
but
the
way
that
the
parcel
ownership
is
is
on
the
property
appraiser.
O
Yeah,
you
might
want
to
actually
drive
by
it
and
then
try
and
figure
it
out,
because
I
drive
I
cut
through
on
my
way
home
and
go
and
go
along
indiana
there.
So
I'm
I'm
pretty
familiar
with
it
anyway.
Okay.
That
was
my
first
question.
My
second
question
is
in
regard
to
the
proposed
uses
for
the
recreation
open
space,
and
it's
sort
of
a
strange
name
for
for
the
city.
Cemetery
is
recreation,
but
I
can't
find
it
now
on
the
staff
report,
but
I
saw
it
earlier
and
it
does.
D
O
Yeah
here
it
is
here,
it
is
range,
range
of
allowable
uses,
parks,
recreational
facilities,
greenways
natural
managed
and
cultivated
open
space.
Golf
courses
and
commercial
recreation
facilities
with
an
emphasis
on
outdoor
use
are
also
allowed,
but
it'd
kind
of
be
nice,
especially
for
for
woodlawn.
If
the.
If
we
had
a
name,
you
know
a
specifically
a
named
use
there
as
some
as
cemetery.
D
I
yes,
sir,
yes,
and
we
can
always
take
a
look
at
that.
I
think
it
can
probably
fall
under
the
managed
and
cultivated
open
spaces
and
then
the
fact
that
it's
also
on
the
dedicated
park
list.
We
also
did
woodlawn
cemetery
in
downtown
and
we
did
marty
colon
cemetery
up
on
columbus
as
well.
But
if
that's
the
pleasure
of
council,
we
can
take
a
look
at
that.
O
D
O
A
Q
A
A
A
A
Mr
maniscalc
was
seconded.
B
F
S
G
B
A
Sir,
mr
ding
father
number
five.
O
Sure,
mr
chairman,
in
regard
to
file
number
ta
cpa2108
I'll
move
the
following
ordinance
presented
for
first
reading,
consideration
an
ordinance
amending
the
imagine,
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan.
Future
land
use
element,
feature
land
use
map
for
the
property
generally
located
at
3412,
north
ola
avenue
otherwise
known
as
woodlawn
cemetery
from
public
semi,
public
psp
to
recreation,
open
space,
r,
o
s
providing
for
repealable
ordinances
and
conflict
provided
for
severability
provide
an
effective
second.
P
K
B
D
Good
evening,
jennifer
malone
again
item
number
six
david:
did
you.
J
B
D
D
Here's
an
ariel
of
the
subject:
site
south
of
east
martin
luther
king
junior
boulevard
and
east
of
north
florida
avenue,
as
you
know,
there's
a
variety
of
commercial
uses
along
north
florida
avenue.
There's
this
a
church
to
the
south,
and
we
also
have
some
single
family
detached
to
the
south
as
well,
and
then
the
lake
and
to
the
south
of
the
site
is
robles
park
with
the
park
itself,
not
the
community.
D
So
the
request
before
you
is
privately
initiated.
It
is
a
small
scale.
Amendment
under
the
new
state
government
state
acreage
chain.
D
Small
scales
are
anything
greater
than
anything
less
than
50
acres.
This
is
30.03
acres
from
residential
35
to
community
mixed
use.
35..
D
This
is
the
intersection
of
east
lake
avenue
and
north
avon
street
faces
north,
and
this
is
the
intersection
of
east
lake
avenue
and
north
florida
avenue.
The
subject
site
was
behind
me
when
I
took
this
picture,
and
this
is
a
single
family,
detached
kind
of
across
the
street,
from
the
subject
site
on
eight
east
virginia
and
north
central
avenue.
So
this
is
the
single
family
detached
that
is
within
the
proximity
of
the
of
the
site.
D
The
adopted
future
land
use
is
residential.
35
to
the
north
is
residential
20.
That's
that
lighter
brown
color
further
north
is
community
makes
these
35.
That's
the
pink
and
the
red
is
community
commercial
35
on
the
east
along
north
florida
avenue,
so
the
community
commercial
35
and
the
community
mixed
35
both
allow
for
some
commercial
uses.
Community
commercial
35
is
more
intensive.
D
The
blue
is
the
property
owned
by
the
church.
That's
the
public,
semi-public
future
lineage
designation,
the
green
to
the
south
is
robles
park
the
city
park,
and
then
there
is
some
residential
tent
in
the
area
and
that's
the
single
family
detached
and
the
proposal
would
take
this
to
the
community
makes
these
35
and
we
already
have
that
color
to
the
east
of
the
subject
site
that
pink
is
already
present
in
the
surrounding
area.
D
This
would
increase
the
potential
of
dwelling
units,
but
that
would
be
through
the
utilization
of
the
four
area
ratio
option
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
So
the
our
presidential,
35
and
community
mixes
35
are
both
calculated
at
35
billion
units.
An
acre
or
the
applicant
can
utilize
the
four
area
ratio
to
allow
for
that
amount
of
non-residential
or
residential
uses,
so
that
number
would
increase
from
about
78
000
to
2.6
million
square
feet.
The
proposed
community
makes
these
35
designation
would
also
allow
consideration
of
commercial
uses
on
the
subject
site.
D
So
just
a
little
history.
I'm
sure
everybody
is
familiar
with
it
that
this
was
developed
in
1952
as
a
432
acre
project
based
section
8
community,
the
historically
significant
zion
cemetery
was
discovered
through
ground,
penetrating
radar
in
the
northwestern
portion
of
the
site.
A
couple
of
years
ago,
then
any
preservation
of
the
cemetery
will
be
accomplished
through
the
rezoning
process
and
I'm
sure
the
applicant
will
touch
on
that
in
their
presentation
as
well.
D
It
is
consistent
with
comprehensive
plan
objectives
and
policies.
The
comprehensive
plan
promotes
a
development
pattern.
That's
consistent
with
a
compact
city
form
strategy
which
encourages
mixed
use,
infill
within
proximity
to
transit
and
employment,
center
and
employment
services,
and
directs
the
city
to
direct
the
target
the
greatest
year
of
growth
to
urban
villages.
As
I
mentioned
before,
this
is
located
in
the
tampa
heights
urban
village.
D
We
found
that
increasing
the
density
is
consistent
with
several
objectives
and
policies
which
encourage
new
housing
on
underutilized
land
and
promotes
housing
toys
within
proximity
to
those
services.
We
would
also
note
that
the
while
the
community
mixes
35
would
allow
for
some
commercial
uses
on
the
site.
There
are
screening
and
buffering
requirements
in
the
land
development
code
if
residential
is
located
adjacent
to
commercial
uses,
and
so
with
that,
the
planning
commission
did
find
this
consistent
with
the
plan
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions,
and
I
believe
the
applicant
is
here
as
well.
A
I
think
mr
maniscalco
recognize
you
recognize
her.
J
K
The
house
is
still
there,
but
I
just
want
to
throw
that
in
there,
but
also-
and
this
is
because
another
item
has
been
continued
tonight,
but
you
know
it
seems
that
this,
the
city
or
the
community,
because
I
saw
zion
cemetery
mentioned
you
know-
seems
to
have
a
a
little
bit
of
a
reputation
of
paving
over
areas
that
you
know
they
didn't
know
or
whatever
it
was
where
there
was
a
cemetery
at
one
point
and
here's
a
an
example
of
that,
and
that
was
that
was
brought
up.
O
D
O
O
Why
is
it
we're
not
reserving
the
that
upper
northwest
corner
for
the
the
recreation
open
space
cemetery
type
area?
I
mean
I
I'm
confident
that
the
housing
authority
is
not
going
to
do
anything
bad,
but
just
from
a
consistency
perspective,
I'm
just
wondering
why
we
don't
why
we
don't
do
use
that
ros
designation
up
in
that
top
corner
where
we
know
there
are
graves.
O
And
that's
not
necessarily
a
question
for
you
jen.
If
you
want
to
defer
that
if
you
want
to
defer
that
to
the
applicants,
I
see
the
illustrious
mr
smith
there
on
the
on
the
screen.
R
Unmute
me
that
time
here
we
go
david
smith,
401,
east
jackson,
street
33601,
suite
2100,
a
planner
with
stern's
weaver
miller
representing
the
applicant
there's
a
really
good
staff
report,
and
I
think
I'd
get
to
the
point
of
the
matter.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
a
comp
plan
amendment
to
facilitate
the
redevelopment
similar
to
what's
happening
in
west
river,
and
that
has
already
happened
in
other
housing
authority
projects
to
come
in
with
a
mixed
use,
residential
development
that
will
provide
many
more
affordable
housing
units.
R
We
have
the
density
on
the
particular
site,
but
due
to
locational
criteria,
it
did
not
facilitate
a
well-planned
mixed-use
community,
and
that
is
the
basic
reason
for
the
cmu
35
on
the
property.
We
see
this
as
a
a
springboard
catalystic
project
for
the
area,
hopefully,
as
it
just
redevelops.
The
florida
quarter
with
a
lot
of
those
automobiles
ci
uses,
will
start
to
transition
into
more
neighborhood
serving
uses,
as
opposed
to
automotive
based
uses
with
respect
to
the
zion
cemetery.
R
So,
at
this
time
for
our
project,
the
inclusion
of
the
property
for
density
purposes
allows
us
to
utilize
that
land
to
achieve
densities,
to
maximize
benefit
to
the
affordable
housing
project
and
also
the
mixed
use
project
and
then
also
facilitate
being
able
to
fund
preservation.
Efforts
for
the
zion
cemetery.
R
So
I
think
you
know
looking
at
it
from
a
land
use
perspective.
I
think
maybe
it's
premature
at
this
time
to
designate
it
as
such
for
the
purposes
of
moving
the
project
forward,
but
it
may
be
something
once
the
preservation
effort
is
underway.
They're
able
to
get
the
museum
in
place
acquire
some
of
that
private
land
that
may
be
the
appropriate
land
use
to
make
sure
that
it's
preserved
in
perpetuity.
R
It
will
also
be
part
of
a
rezoning
activity,
at
least
to
the
property
we
control
moving
forward
with
the
redevelopment
of
robles
park.
There
are
other
members
of
the
development
team
that
are
on
the
line
and
sign
up
for
the
applicant
that
that
are
dealing
dealt
with
the
master
plan
and
more
specific,
but
that's
the
the
general
response
to
your
question
and
I
hope
that's
that
helps
if,
if
not,
there
will
be
others
that
can
answer
more
specifically,
your
question.
O
Gentleman
so,
mr
smith,
we've
got
approximately
30
acres
total
under
the
housing
authority
control.
What
what
percentage
or
how
many
acres
or
less
than
an
acre
or
whatever,
are
we
talking
about
for
zion?
That's
within
the
housing
authority
properly.
R
O
I'm
not
worried
about
outside
tonight
yeah
because
that's
not
that's
not
in
front
of
us
yep,
so
so
that
is,
that
is,
makes
a
significant
difference
in
terms
of
your
densities
and
and
out
I
mean
I
mean
clearly,
we
all
know
you're
not
going
to
be
building
on
top
of
zion,
but
you
need
that
for
your
for
your
density
calculations
and
everything
to
do
what
you're
going
to
do
elsewhere,.
R
O
Perhaps
I'd
feel
more
comfortable
if
I
had
your
and
your
client's
assurance
that
when,
when
all
is
said
and
done,
that
the
housing
authority
will
circle
back
and
and
do
a
comp
plan
amendment
for
that
sacred
area
and
whether
you
know,
obviously
that
might
be
another
year
or
two
three
down
the
road,
but
just
for
consistency's
sake.
You
know
we
just
were
over
at
woodlawn
and
and
that's
the
reason
we
did
it
at
woodlawn.
That's
the
reason
we
did
it
downtown,
etc,
recreation
open
space.
O
Q
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
have
you
recognized
me?
Thank
you,
sir
susan
johnsonville's
legal
department,
mr
ding
felder.
I
I
understand
your
your
comments,
but
I
would
be
concerned
and
would
caution,
counsel
against
imposing
any
type
of
conditions
on
the
comprehensive
plan
amendment.
If
you
have
some
concerns,
then,
for
perhaps
there
would
be
consideration
of
taking
that
land
out,
but
it
would
be
problematic
to
condition
your
decision
on
future
actions
by
the
applicant
again.
Q
O
O
I
said
maybe
there's
a
difference
between
a
condition
or
just
a
verbal
assurance,
some
sort
of
moral,
moral
assurance
or
or
whatever,
and
this.
A
Have
you
seen
the
rebel
spark
plan
yet
have
you
seen
this.
O
No,
I
haven't
seen
it
and
I
trust
I
trust
it's
going
to
be
done.
I
trust
it's
all
wonderful,
I'm
just
saying
from
a
consistency
perspective
we've
just
spent
a
year
going
through
all
of
our
parks
to
make
sure
they're
in
recreation,
open
space.
We've
got
three
cemeteries
to
make
sure
they're
in
recreation
open
space,
and
we
do
that
for
good
reason.
So
so
here's
another
opportunity,
I'm
not
trying
to
hold
this
one
up
tonight,
but
susan,
I'm
not
trying
to
you,
know
to
make
them
condition
their
approval.
R
Just
if
I
I
might,
I
think,
we'll
speak
with
the
housing
authority.
I
mean.
I,
I
think
the
it
will
be
clear
when
the
pd
amendment
comes
through
with
the
property
that
it
will
be
preserved.
And
at
that
point
in
time
when
we
actually
have
it
on
paper,
for
everybody
to
see
the
boundaries
and
what's
involved
that
that
may
be
a
great
time
for
us
to
formally
demonstrate
that.
Yes,
we're
going
to
follow
through
with
an
amendment
to
put
that
in
an
open
space
category.
R
But
between
now
and
in
second
reading
I'll
discuss
that
with
the
housing
authority
and.
O
A
D
Thank
you
chairman.
I
just
wanted
to
state
for
the
record
that
the
recreation
open
space
has
been
applied
to
cemeteries
that
are
on
the
city's
dedicated
park
list
and
they're
in
ownership
by
the
city.
So
perhaps
there
would
be
some
a
method
and
further
discuss
how
that,
if
recreation,
open
space
would
be
applied
to
the
cemetery,
how
that
would
be
generally,
so
I
just
wanted
to
save
that
for
the
record.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
S
William
sessions
fight
exchange
street,
I'm
in
support
of
the
amendment
change
for
this
location.
There's
many
reasons
why
I'm
in
support
of
it?
It's
long
overdue.
S
I
was
also
raised
in
rebels
park
as
a
young
man
back
in
80s,
so
I
moved
back
to
the
area
because
I
like
dairy,
I'm
back
in
temple,
it's
not
about
my
housing
area,
so
I'm
very
much
aware
of
the
area
and
I'm
very
much
aware
of
what
it
has
and
what
has
gone
through
and
also
to
be
real,
quick.
It's
just
that!
There's
so
much
that's
going
on
now!
S
That
consists
along
central
avenue,
and
I
think
that
I've
spoken
to
mr
goose
about
that
situation
with
the
people
standing
out
along
the
street
doing
this
and
that
we
need
to
may
have
a
change
over
there.
It's
time
for
a
change
over
there,
because
the
change
is
well
needed
and
I
think
it'll
bring
up
the
community
and
I
believe,
it'll
bring
back
people
who
want
to
work
in
the
community
and
do
better
for
the
community.
That's
what.
A
I
have
to
say
thank
you
well
thank
you,
so
I
have
seen
some
of
the
renditions
of
the
housing
authorities
plan
and
how
they're
going
to
look
at
central
avenue
and
they've
already
trying
to
acquire
properties
along
with
central
to
to
do
here's
what
you're
talking
about.
I
think
it
will
be
a
great
change
for
that
area
anywhere
else
on
second
floor,
miss
debbie!
No,
that's
all
anyone
ready
for
the
side.
B
Yes,
we
have
one
roasted
speaker
all
right.
We
have
mr
michael
randolph.
The
only
thing
is,
he
does
not
have
video
capability
so
being
that
this
is
a
non-quasi
item.
If
I'm
correct
show
attorney
shelby,
is
he
okay
to
speak.
S
Thank
you
very
much.
First,
I
want
to
start
off
by
thanking
the
city,
planning
and
county
planning,
because
I
had
some
technical
difficulties
in
order
to
get
old.
Hopefully,
those
entities
were
definitely
helpful
for
me
getting
on
this
particular
platform.
I
do
live
on
virginia
and
moore
avenue.
The
cemetery
in
question
is
right
down
the
street.
For
me,
the
cemetery
and,
what's
going
to
happen
to
the
silver
child,
is
part
of
the
rover's
park
master
plan.
S
That's
a
master
plan
that
has
been
put
together
and
part
of
their
strategy
is
looking
at
what
happened
to
that
cemetery,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
meetings
with
the
committee
to
make
a
decision
on
that
so
related
to
that
cemetery.
I'm
glad
you
you
put
that
up,
but
house
method
is
very
good
in
inclusion.
S
Folks,
depending
on
what
happens
on
that
property.
Let's
talk
about
present
day
what
was
paul.
They
have
multiple
multi-program
services
today,
which
is
good,
but
this
crime
people
feel
safe,
built
celebrating
and
there's
effects
of
technology,
meaning
that
if
you
want
to
put
a
hot
spot
up
for
people
to
connect
to
the
internet,
you
can't
do
that
because
they're
they're
going
to
have
multi-service
program
again.
S
They're
going
to
it's
going
to
have
an
impact
on
improvement
on
the
larger
tampa
heights
area,
it's
going
to
increase,
affordable
housing,
it's
going
to
increase
economic
development
in
the
community
and
because
of
the
strategy
they're
using
is
going
to
decrease
the
economic
divide
when
it
comes
to
wealth
in
the
community
because
they
are
going
to
have
pokemon
goes
towards
teaching
residents,
how
they
own
their
own
business.
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
I'm
in
total
support
of
this
plan.
S
If
you
live
here
in
rose
park,
you
know
the
condition
we
live
under.
Nobody
should
live
under
these
conditions.
The
current
proposed
and
everybody
know,
housing
authority
is
good
at
what
they
do
the
final
product.
It's
going
to
be
disliked
if
it
was
doing
it
in
south
campus,
that's
the
quality
they
put
to
their
work.
So
have
them
say
that,
and
I
didn't
mean
to
take
too
much
time,
I'm
in
total
in
agreeance
with
that.
Actually
I
wish
they
duplicated
throughout
the
city.
S
E
Thank
you
item
number
six
file,
number
tacpa
21-12,
moving
orders
being
presented
for
first
reading;
consideration,
ordinance
of
ending
the
image;
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan;
future
land
use
element,
future
land
use
map
for
the
property
generally
located
at
3814,
north
central
avenue,
from
residential
r
r
35
to
mixed
use.
Community
mixed
use,
35,
cmu,
35,
providing
permanent
field
of
ordinance
and
conflict,
providing
severability
providing
an
effective
date
again
say.
O
B
C
Mr
chairman,
yes,
so
you
recognize
martin
shelby
city
council
attorney,
it's
council's
pleasure,
but
the
next
four
items
all
taken
together
are
all
park
issues.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
if
it's
council's
pleasure
you
can
do
what
we
we
could
do,
what
we
did
the
last
time
and
hear
all
the
pres
the
full
presentation,
my
understanding
from
ms
mercer
is
there's
nobody
left
on
two.
Are
there
any
other
registrants
for
tonight
on
these
parks,
for
instance,
or
anybody
else
for
that
matter?.
C
14.,
okay!
That's
not
so
if
you
wish
to
take
them
together
and
hear
the
presentation
or
you
can
hear
them
separately,
your
pleasure,
but
oh.
D
Okay,
jennifer
melinda
through
plenty
commission
staff.
I
will
start
with
item
number
eight,
which
is
tcpa
2115..
D
Here's
a
little
road
map
of
where
we're
going
today,
davis
island
apex
park
kid
mason
center,
I'm
just
going
to
say
friendship
park
for
2117.
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
to
mispronounce
that
and
then
port
tampa
park
for
21
18..
As
you
know,
these
are
publicly
initiated
by
council
to
recognize
existing
city
of
tampa
parks.
These
are
all
on
the
dedicated
park
list
and
they're
consistent
with
the
plan
promoting
recreation
and
open
space
opportunities.
D
D
I
have
some
subject
site
pictures.
It's
pretty
small
and
the
adoptive
future
of
land
use
is
residential,
35
and
residential
10,
and
this
would
take
it
to
that
recreational
open
space
landings
again.
It
would
remove
any
potential
for
dwelling
units
or
non-residential
square
footage,
and
with
that,
it's
consistent,
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
next
one.
D
D
The
future
ladies,
the
central
business
district
and
this
request
would
take
us
to
the
recreational
open
space.
The
cemetery
oakland
cemetery
to
the
west
was
done
through
the
same
process
for
the
recreational
open
space.
D
D
D
D
I
have
some
subject
site
pictures
of
the
amenities
in
this
park
and
most
of
this
is
already
recreational
open
space,
but
a
portion
of
it,
a
very
small
portion,
is
residential
10.
So
this
will
just
clean
up
the
map,
so
the
entire
park
is
recreational
open
space
and
it's
going
to
remove
any
potential
for
that
one
dwelling
unit
or
some
square
non-residential
square
footage,
and
that's
consistent
as
well.
I'm
available
to
answer
any
questions
and
thank
you
so
much
council.
K
Guess
what
else
in
that
park?
It's
no
longer
there
as
of
recently,
but
it's
one
of
the
last
parks
that
had
stamped
on
the
sidewalk
nick
nuccio
county,
commissioner,
and
he
would
stamp
you
know,
benches
and
and
all
that
stuff,
but
they
they
redid
the
park
recently.
So
they
tore
out
that
part
right
where
the
basketball
courts
were.
A
S
O
A
Well,
do
we
have
anybody
to
speak
on
any
of
these
items,
eight
through
eleven.
B
Yes,
someone
registered
michael
junko.
B
A
Again
seconded
by
mr
citroel,
all
in
favor
all
right
all
right
motion
carried
mr
beer
are
you
can
handle
number
eight
four,
sir.
N
Yes,
sir,
I
knew
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading,
consideration
and
ordinance
amending
the
imagine.
2040
tamper,
comprehensive
plan
feature
land
use,
element,
detail,
introduced
map.
G
B
A
B
G
B
B
E
Yes,
I
did.
He
lived
right
there
in
ebora
city
on
just
the
other
side
of
24th.
I
believe
the
street
was
called
owens
and
he
was
a
great
coach,
a
great
guy
and
took
time
to
speak
to
all
the
kids.
He
really
he
really
helped
a
lot
of
people
along
and
one
of
the
leading
coaches
here
university
of
tampa.
E
In
fact,
him
with
good
friends
with
john
eckhart,
another
coach
john,
went
to
auburn.
He
went
to
florida,
they
had
a
big
meeting
here
and
chiller
bought
an
alligator.
So
I
come
to
see
me:
you
want
to
borrow
two
tigers.
We
had
at
the
sea
wolf,
so
I
told
them
the
only
way
you
can
do
that
you
got
to
muzzle
them
and
you
got
to
have
two
people
on
each
other,
the
other
of
the
tigers,
and
he
did.
He
went
through
the
whole
thing
with
the
two
tigers,
which
saw
the
alligator.
G
One
you
can
do
that,
then
you
can't
do
it
now.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
moving
ordinance
for
being
presented
for
first
reading
and
consideration
an
ordinance
amending
the
imagine.
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan.
Future
land
use
element,
future
land
use
map
for
the
property
located
at
4702,
west
mccoy
street,
otherwise
known
as
port
tampa
park
from
residential
10
r10
residential
excuse
me:
recreational
open
space,
ros
recreational
open
space,
ros,
providing
for
appeal
of
all
ordinances
and
complex,
providing
for
several
ability
providing
an
effective
date.
B
J
J
Please
this
this
next
amendment.
Your
last
amendment
for
the
evening
is
a
transmittal
hearing
regarding
comprehensive
plan
text.
Amendment
211..
This
is
in
regards
to
floria
ratio.
The
utilization
of
excuse
me,
the
utilization
of
florida
ratio
for
residential,
the
community
mixes
35,
the
community
commercial
35
and
the
urban
mix.
260
neutral
land
use
categories.
J
A
little
background
about
the
request
on
april
1st
of
this
year,
tampa
city
council
did
direct
city
staff
to
review
the
use
of
florida
ratio
in
determining
maximum
development
potential
for
single-use
structures.
This
ability
to
utilize
far
within
the
mixed-use
categories
has
been
an
option
within
the
comprehensive
plan
since
at
least
the
1998
comprehensive
plan.
J
The
purpose,
as
stated
in
that
1998
plan,
was
quote,
this
concept
permits
residential
uses
to
be
competitive
with
commercial
and
or
office
uses
unquote
after
a
stakeholder
meeting
was
held
on
may
25th
city
staff
revised
the
original
language
based
on
that
now
amended
language.
Another
stakeholder
meeting
was
hosted
by
the
planning
commission
and
held
on
august
third.
J
But
now
to
go
through
the
proposed
changes
for
reference.
The
proposed
language
is
provided
within
your
packet.
J
The
most
significant
change
is
the
removal
of
utilizing
fluoria
ratio
in
determining
maximum
residential
density
for
single-use
structures
in
the
south
tampa
and
new
tampa
planning
districts.
You
can
see
on
the
screen.
We
have
the
city's
vision
map
we.
I
know
we
see
this
a
lot.
It's
we
show
it
a
lot
during
our
zoning
hearings.
J
This
is
the
south
tampa
planning
district,
it's
basically
south
of
kennedy
and
then
it
kind
of
dips
down.
I
believe
that
swan
and
goes
south
of
hyde
park,
so
this
is
all
south
tampa
and
then
the
new
tampa
is
north
of
the
university
up
to
the
pasco
line,
all
the
property
within
that
bright,
pink
based
on
the
district
characteristics.
J
The
comprehensive
plan
have
viewed
these
two
districts
as
providing
quote
limited
growth
opportunities.
Unquote,
there
are
also
references
in
the
comp
plan
calling
these
two
areas
quote
areas
of
stability.
Unquote,
this
the
comp
plan
really
envisions
the
three
core
districts,
central
west
shore
and
university
as
having
the
most
growth
opportunities
within
the
city
of
tampa.
J
Sentence
and
then
finally,
the
word
consistent
is
removed
out
of
the
land,
use,
description
and
replaced
with
compatible,
but
the
word
consistent
is
not
defined
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
definition
of
of
compatible
is
defined
and
is
is
as
follows:
quote
the
characteristics
of
different
uses
or
activities
or
design
which
allow
them
to
be
located
near
or
adjacent
to
each
other
in
harmony,
some
elements
affect
compatibility,
include
the
following:
height
scale,
mass
and
bulk
of
structures,
pedestrian
or
vehicular
traffic
circulation
access
and
parking
impacts,
landscaping,
lighting,
noise,
odor
and
architecture.
J
Your
planning
commission
has
reviewed
the
proposed
request
and
has
identified
some
key
aspects
of
the
proposed
change.
The
proposed
language
continues
to
promote
a
mixture
of
uses
within
the
two
planning
districts.
The
majority
of
properties
designated
one
of
the
three
mixed-use
fluke
categories
are
located
along
or
within
close
proximity
to
major
corridors.
J
Second,
since,
under
the
proposed
language,
single-use
residential
developments
would
no
longer
be
able
to
utilize
far
in
calculating
residential
density.
It
is
the
planning
commission's
finding
that
there
will
be
an
overall
reduction
in
residential
units
over
what
can
currently
be
considered,
though
overall
unit
count
may
be
reduced,
the
size
and
cost
of
each
unit
may
increase.
J
And
thirdly,
the
language
also
clarifies
that
developments
must
be
compatible,
which
is
defined
again
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
The
proposed
language
is
found
to
provide
greater
protection
for
single-family,
detached
residential
by
potentially
reducing
building
scale
and
massing,
based
on
that
compatible.
The
addition
of
compatible
into
the
land
use
category.
J
As
always,
we
send
this
out
to
our
partner
agencies.
There
were
no
objections
from
any
of
the
reviewing
agencies.
It
should
also
be
noted
that
a
large
number
of
citizen
comments
were
received
to
the
planning
commission
regarding
this
request
and
can
be
accessed
through
the
link,
that's
included
within
your
packet.
It
was,
I
think,
over
a
hundred.
J
The
planning
commission
has
reviewed
the
comprehensive
plan
and
found
that
the
proposed
language
to
amend
the
urban
mixed
u60,
the
community
commercial
35
and
the
community
mixed
use,
35
future
land
use
categories
to
remove
the
option
or
refer
to
as
the
far
option
for
single-use
residential
projects
in
the
south
and
new
tampa
planning
districts.
Consistent
with
the
adopted
policy
guidance
within
the
comprehensive
plan.
J
Your
planning
commission
found
three
main
areas
of
consistency,
adopted,
comprehensive
plan
policies,
promote
the
preservation
of
neighborhood
characters
policies,
also
promote
design
sensitivity
when
developing
adjacent
to
establish
single-family
detached
residential
neighborhoods.
The
proposal
clarifies
the
overall
intent
of
the
districts
by
providing
that
new
development
must
be
compatible
with
existing
development.
J
Your
planning
commission
also
found
the
request
consistent
with
the
city's
overall
growth
strategy,
described
as
the
compact
city
form.
These
policies
encourage
the
city
to
focus
high-density
housing
in
areas
with
access
to
transit
and
employment,
though
some
transit
is
provided
in
areas
of
south
tampa.
There
is
no
local
transit
service
currently
provided
along
west
shore
boulevard,
except
in
port,
tampa
city
or
along
gandy
boulevard.
These
two
corridors
provide
for
a
large
percentage
of
the
three
land
use
categories
found
within
the
south
tampa
planning
district.
J
There
is
also
no
local
transit
service
within
the
whole
of
the
new
tampa
planning
district.
The
majority
of
transit
and
employment
in
the
city
of
tampa
are
found
within
the
central
west
shore
and
university
planning
districts.
Both
land
use
policies,
9.4.1
and
9.6.2
encourage
high-density
multi-family
residential
development
within
areas
with
transit
and
employment
availability.
J
These
policies
also
encourage
multi-family
development
around
recognized
urban
villages
or
business
centers,
which
are
all
located
within
the
central
tampa
west
shore
and
university
planning
district.
J
Based
on
these
facts,
planning
commission
found
that
the
proposed
language
is
consistent
with
the
city's
growth
management
strategy,
so,
based
on
that,
the
recommendation
from
the
planning
commission
to
you
all
this
evening
is
to
find
the
proposed
text
amendment
consistent
with
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
of
the
imagine
2040
tampa
comprehensive
plan.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I
believe
stephen
benson
with
the
city
of
tampa
is
also
online,
would
like
to
give
a
brief
presentation.
Both
of
us
will
be
available
for
any
questions.
Thank
you.
H
Good
evening
steven
benson
with
your
city
planning
department,
I
do
have
a
brief
presentation
on
this
item.
This
amendment
was
initiated
by
tampa
city
council
earlier
this
year.
It
relates
to
a
specific
provision
in
the
conference
plan,
which
we
refer
to
as
the
far
option
council
requested
staff
to
review
this
provision
for
potential
modifications
and
to
process
a
comprehensive
plan
amendment
to
ensure
that
further
use
of
this
option
is
in
line
with
its
intent,
as
well
as
the
goals,
objectives
and
policies
in
the
plan.
H
First,
I'm
going
to
speak
to
the
timeline
in
the
process
for
this
amendment.
The
the
second
we'll
look
at
the
final
proposed
amendment
language
and
then
I'll
provide
a
summary
of
the
policy
implications
and
then
touch
on
the
next
steps.
H
G
H
H
The
two
virtual
meetings
were
held,
as
I
mentioned
in
maine
and
august,
and
those
recordings
are
posted
available
on
the
planning
commission's
website
and
the
amendment
was
refined
based
upon
the
feedback
that
we
received
at
these
two
sessions.
H
So
the
language
presented
on
your
screen
is
the
section
of
the
comp
plan
that
we
refer
to
as
the
fdr
option
on
the
far
left.
Residential
development,
as
you
know,
is
regulated
by
density,
so
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
non-residential
development
is
regulated
by
floor
area
ratio.
H
Mixed-Use
projects,
however,
are
typically
required
to
meet
both
of
these
thresholds,
but
to
help
direct
further
growth
into
the
mixed-use
corridors
of
the
city.
This
option.
The
far
option
allows
for
projects
that
are
in
mixed-use
areas
to
use
only
the
far,
rather
than
the
maximum
density,
to
determine
how
many
housing
units
may
be
provided.
H
The
language
presented
on
april
1st
and
transmitted
by
council
recognized
this
distinction
and
sought
to
limit
this
option
to
projects
that
were
not
single
use
and
the
revised
language
based
upon
the
stakeholder
meetings
sought
to
further
limit
this
to
the
new
tampa
planning
district,
as
well
as
the
south
tampa
planning
district,
as
well
as
the
modifications
that
were
presented
by
mr
haye
previously.
H
So
the
map
on
the
screen
shows
the
distribution
of
parcels
affected
with
one
of
the
three
future
land
use
designations
that
we're
discussing
right
now.
These
lands
are
allowed
to
use
this
far
option
to
determine
their
density
potential
for
projects
now.
Currently,
these
lines
are
organized,
as
you
can
see,
in
a
linear
fashion,
along
and
adjacent
to
the
arterial
and
collector
street
system
generally
comprising
what
is
referred
to
in
the
comprehensive
plan.
Collectively
as
our
mixed-use
corridors,
as
was
mentioned,
the
comp
plan
divides
the
city
up
into
five
planning
districts.
H
The
plan
includes
language
that
describes
the
specific
visions
for
each
of
these
districts
and
how
they
are
intended
to
grow
and
change
in
the
future.
The
west
shore
district
is
shown
in
purple.
It
of
course
includes
the
west
shore,
business
district,
tampa
international
airport,
two
major
shopping
malls
and
the
drew
park
community
redevelopment
area.
H
The
south
campus
planning
district
is
on
the
map
in
light,
blue.
The
central
district
is
shown
in
green,
and
it
of
course
includes
the
seven
cras,
as
well
as
all
of
the
urban
villages,
the
central
business
district
and
port
tampa
bay,
and
the
university
district,
which
is
the
third
growth
district,
is
shown
in
orange,
and
it
includes
the
innovation
district,
the
usf
tampa
campus
and
it
constitutes
the
third
major
employment
center
of
the
city.
The
new
tampa
planning
district
is
shown
in
the
hot
pink
color
at
the.
H
H
H
And
the
research
that
we
performed
you
can
see,
this
slide
displays
the
residential
growth
that
has
occurred
in
the
city
over
the
past
10
years.
The
most
recent
10
years
of
growth
has
broken
into
five
year
increments.
The
2010
residential
units
are
shown
in
gray
and
the
growth
that
occurred
from
2010
to
2015.
That
increase
is
shown
in
dark
blue
and
the
growth
that
occurred
from
2015
to
2020
is
shown
in
red.
H
H
Looking
at
the
new
tampa
trend,
it
appears
that
the
rate
of
growth
residential
growth
is
decreasing,
since
the
growth
from
2010
to
2015
was
significantly
more
than
the
growth
from
2015
to
2020.,
so
the
the
red
is
smaller
than
the
blue.
We
see
the
growth
is
actually
decreasing,
whereas
in
the
south
type
of
district,
the
opposite
is
true.
The
the
red
the
growth
in
the
last
five
years
is
more
than
the
growth
that
occurred
in
the
five
years
prior.
H
So
where
is
this
now
taper
planning
district?
As
shown
on
your
screen?
It's
the
area,
that's
south
of
kennedy,
west
of
hines,
south
of
swann,
avenue
and
west
of
howard,
avenue
of
it
comprises
the
interbaye
peninsula
and
the
new
tampa
planning
district
is
described
generally
as
the
area
north
of
fletcher
and
east
of
46th
street.
It
includes
most
of
tampa
palms,
as
well
as
the
hidden
river
development.
H
H
H
O
O
I've
had
a
beef
for
at
least
two
plus
years
and
david's
well
familiar
with
it.
That's
why
I'm
throwing
this
at
you
steven
about
how
we
define
mixed
use
and
what
our
threshold
is
for
mixed
use,
and
I
was
hoping
that
when
we
went
through
all
of
this,
you
know
six
month,
eight
month
12-month
exercise
to
get
to
this
point
in
regard
to
this
plan,
amendment,
which
is
a
positive
plan
amendment,
but
it
still
has
a
gaping
loophole
that
we
do
that.
In
my
opinion
and
I'll
answer,
my
own
question.
O
We
don't
have
a
threshold,
the
example
gentlemen,
as
you
may
remember,
when
we,
when
we
all
first
started
this
go-round
in
2019,
was
down
at
the
corner
of
mcdill
and
gandy
and
they
had
a
project
and
they
called
it
mixed
use,
but
it
had
like
one
percent
of
the
whole
project
was
commercial
and
the
other
99
percent
was
was
residential,
and
yet
they
were
allowed
to
call
it
mixed
use
and
they
were
allowed
to
use
the
bonus
criteria
associated
with
mixed
use.
H
Yes,
I
do
believe
that
the
planning
commission
staff
has
been
working
on
some
research
that
will
be
is
forthcoming
to
be
presented
to
you.
My
my
understanding
thus
far
is
there.
We
have
yet
to
discover
a
simple
solution
to
to
that
that
issue
that
you've
identified.
H
We
do
acknowledge
it,
and
we
do
believe
that
it's
something
that
can
be
addressed
as
we
work
to
update
the
comprehensive
plan
in
partnership
with
the
planning
commission
next
year.
O
Well,
I
think
we,
I
think,
we're
just
dragging
our
feet
on
this,
not
necessarily
intentionally,
I
don't
believe
in
it.
I
don't
believe
that
there's
evil
lurking
within
the
city
in
planning
commission,
but
I
think
we're
dragging
our
feet
on
it.
I
think
that
it's
really
dangerous
to
drag
our
feet
on
it,
because
we
we
go
to
all
the
effort
of
doing
this
and
saying
no
more
f.
You
know
no
more
use
of
this,
and
and
in
these
mixed
use,
cetera
et
cetera
from
for
monolithic
crowd.
O
J
J
We
are
conducting
research
a
best
practice
on
on
what
the
best
way,
how
to
handle
that,
whether
it
is
appropriate
to
put
it
in
a
comprehensive
plan.
If
that's
something
that
should
be
more
in
the
land
development
code.
I
will
also
remind
you.
Yes,
they
are
eligible
to
apply,
but
remember
even
if
they
had
10
square
feet.
J
O
O
You
know
the
classic
up,
you
know
where
the
developer
was
trying
to
crawl
through
that
loophole,
and
here's
the
here's,
the
problem
with
saying
what
you're
saying
david
you're
saying,
you're
saying
council
can
always
deny
it:
okay,
but
guess
what
legal
turns
around
with
all
due
respect?
Most
johnsonville
is
watching
this,
but
legal
turns
around
and
says:
well,
there's
not
really
language
there
that
defines
what
mixed
use
is.
O
So
you
better
find
something
else
to
deny
it
on
okay,
because
because,
if
we're
not
defining
it,
then
why
shouldn't
they
crawl
through
that
loophole
anyway,
I'm
off
my
soapbox.
I
think
we
need
to
speed
it
up
and
we
need
to
and
we
need
to
close
that
loophole.
Otherwise,
what
we're
doing
here
tonight
is
a
wonderful
exercise,
but
it,
but
it's
meaningless
for
any
half
intelligent
developer
out
there
and
they're
all
at
least
half
intelligent.
J
Well,
councilman,
just
one
other
point:
I'd
like
to
make
you
know
in
our
research
that
we're
continuing
to
do
and
should
present
to
city
staff
shortly.
You
know
we
really
need
to
be
careful
because
our
mixed
use
are
there.
There
are
mixed
use
designations
that
are
not
on
main
roads.
There's
mixed
use
on
dead,
end
roads
and
is
it
appropriate
and
what
is
the
best
mechanism
to
separate
those
areas
that
may
not
be
conducive
for
actual
vertical
mixed
use
on
each
site,
but
look
more
at
what
is
the?
J
What
is
the
mixture
of
mixed
use
throughout
a
corridor
or
an
area?
That's
what
we're
trying
to
wrap
our
heads
around.
J
It
is
a
planning
mechanism
really
that
you,
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
will
get
to
a
point
where
every
building
proposed
in
a
mixed
use.
Category
could
be
required
to
have
a
mixture
of
uses
that
the
land
use
categories
have
always
been
described.
As
we
look
at
area
of
mixture
of
uses
that
you
can
have
residential
next
to
commercial,
that
they
don't,
it
won't
just
be
a
solely
residential
neighborhood
that
you
can
have
options.
O
E
Mr
mano's,
first,
you
know
times
are
changing.
Things
are
different.
I
remember
not
too
many
years
ago,
from
thanksgiving
to
december.
25Th
was
the
christmas
season
and
these
have
after
sale
christmas
because
they
have
something
left
over
now,
don't
take
it
from
me.
I
see
some
ads
in
the
tv
and
everything
else
go.
Get
your
christmas
toys
today
because
you
won't
have
any
for
christmas.
The
shipping
problem
this
problem
look
at
the
car.
E
You
can't
find
a
chip
that
was
invented
in
america
made
in
china
for
less
cost
and
the
china
can't
keep
up
with
the
production.
So,
therefore
you
can't
buy
a
car,
so
everything
is
changing.
Look
at
publix,
kroger,
winn-dixie,
fresco
walmart
stay
home
they're
going
to
deliver
to
you
get
on
the
other
side.
The
doctors
are
telling
you
go
walk
at
the
mall
and
the
moth
telling
you
we're
going
to
deliver
your
food.
You
don't
have
to
you.
Could
diabetes
die
at
home?
E
So
that's
what
they
want.
I
mean
you
look
at
you
look
at
the
mixed
signals
that
this
world
is
sending.
I
don't
know
how
we're
still
alive
and
that's
how
it
is
you
go
to
the
ball
game.
I
bought
a
couple
of
tickets,
the
other
day,
six
four
tickets
and
they
charged
me
so
much
and
they
charged
me
28
convenience
fee.
E
It
was
part
of
the
tell
me
it's
15
a
ticket
more
and
I'm
glad
to
pay
it,
but
it's
changing
things
are
changing
so
and-
and
I
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
you,
but
I
think
mr
hayes
said
it
earlier
at
the
last
the
last
couple
of
sentence.
You
said
the
industry
is
changing
it's
changing,
because
what
we
grew
up
with
knowing
what
we
saw
even
in
downtown.
Remember
when
you
said
when
I
was
in
the
housing
project
they
were
taking
me
downtown.
E
E
I
can
tell
you
all
kinds
of
things,
so
these
are
the
things
that
have
changed
and
the
world
is
changing
and
whether
it
has
mixed
use
or
not.
You
know
what
you
can
put
it
in
and
if
it
doesn't
work
in
six
months
later,
they
change
it
to
whatever
they
want,
and
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
you,
sir.
I'm
just
saying
that
the
world
is
changing
so
quickly.
E
E
G
Much
mr
chair,
I
you
know,
I'm
in
the
middle
here
agreeing
with
councilman
miranda
and
then
agreeing
with
councilman
dingfelder.
I
was
just
perusing
through
an
email
that
was
sent
to
the
cra
board
about
a
study
that
was
done
in
ybor
city
and
one
of
the
number
one
things
they
wanted
was
retail.
G
David
and
and
mr
excuse
me,
mr
haye
and
mr
benson-
there
there's
got
to
be
a
way
that
it's
not
the
burden
of
of
of
the
city,
to
prove
that
we
need
this
retail
space
or
that
we
want
this
retail
space.
In
my
opinion,
there
should
be
a
percentage
set
up
and
then
have
the
burden
put
on
the
developer
or
the
petitioner
that
says.
Okay,
we
don't
need
that
now.
We
don't
need
that
much
now
and
because
I,
I
think,
we're
all
seeing
the
trends
that
are
happening
now.
G
People
want
to
be
able
to
walk
outside
of
their
of
their
condominium
or
their
home
and
walk
four
or
five
blocks
and
go
to
a
little
retail
store,
whether
it
be
a
hairstyling
salon,
shoe
store
laundry
mat
down
in
nebor
city,
they
want
laundromat
down
there,
so
I
you
know,
I
I
hear
what
both
these
councilmen
are
saying,
but
again
there
should
be
some
sort
of
percentage
in
a
mixed
use
that
the
petitioner
has
to
prove
the
burden
of
proof.
Okay,
we
don't
need
that
here
on
this
dead
end
road
or
say.
O
I
I
love
both.
I
love
this
discussion
because
charlie
you,
you
emphasize
a
good
point
times,
are
changing
and
and
the
market
changes,
and
you
know
I
was
around
when
principalized
it
was
opening.
I
think
I
remember
riding
my
stingray,
but
but
joe
you,
you
bring
up
a
good
point
too,
and,
and
maybe
that
is
the
solution,
maybe
we
create
a
standard
which
is
the
presumption
it's
the
presumptive
standard,
but
then
the
the
developer
has
the
ability
to
rebut
it
and
get
a
waiver
from
that
standard.
O
Just
like
we
do
with
a
lot
of
our
standards,
and
I
think
I
think
you
might
have
hit
on
something,
but
I
think
to
be
standard-less
is
risky
and
and
here's
what
here's?
What
I'm
talking
about,
I'm
not
saying
we
live
in
a
capitalist
society.
O
Developers
have
a
right
to
you
know
to
to
build
if
they
want
to
build
residential
and
they
get
and
they've
got
the
right
zoning
for
it,
etc,
etc.
You
know
they're
going
to
build
residential
and
I'm
not
saying
we
we
we're
mandating
that
mixed
use
david,
but
what
I'm,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
is
that
in
this
case
we're
not
only
we're
not
mandating
but
we're
giving
them
this
far
option,
which
is
a
huge
bonus
potential
over
and
above
what
they
can
normally
build.
O
That's
what
this
is
all
about.
It's
really
a
big
bonus
opportunity
for
mixed
use,
okay
and
that's
the
way
it
was
designed.
I
remember
the
first
time
ray
charmante
ever
told
me
what
the
heck
a
mixed
news
project
was
about
30
years
ago.
You
know
and
it
was
exciting
and
everybody
was
all
about
it
and
and
but
but
but
you
should
to
me,
you
should
only
get
that
get
to
use
that
bonus
intensity,
that
big
bump
in
density.
O
O
It
doesn't
have
to
be
etched
in
stone,
but
at
least
that's
a
starting
point
and
they
could
and
a
developer
can
say:
hey
I'm
down
that
dead.
End
road
and
20
doesn't
work
for
me
and
then
he
can
explain
it
to
us,
but
at
least
we
have
a
number
to
start
with
all
right,
that's
great
for
great
discussion
for
the
night.
So
thank
you,
mr
chair.
N
And
mr
chair,
yes,
thank
you,
I
I
I
appreciate
all
this
discussion.
You
know
it's
interesting
to
see
newtamp.
I
know
this
was
talked
about
some
time
ago
as
as
an
area
of
such
rapid
growth.
N
You
know
that's
what
this
has
a
lot
of
correlation
to
what
we've
been
talking
about
with
regards
to
public
safety
and
campfire
from
new
tampa
that
when
you
see
the
you
know,
great
population
boom
we've
seen
in
new
tampa,
it
becomes
a
tax
on
the
infrastructure
and
attacks
on
the
services
and
that's
part
of
what's
being
reviewed
tonight.
I
always
like
to
tell
the
story
that
I
remember
the
first
time
I
ever
came
out
to
new
kansas.
I
was
in
the
eighth
grade
and
it
was
1990.
N
I
was
coming
to
a
friend's
birthday
party,
a
guy,
I'm
still
friends
with
him,
and
his
parents
built
this
out
here
about
five
minutes
where
I
lived
actually-
and
I
remember
going
down
bruce
b
downs
with
my
mom
to
the
baseball
party.
As
I
recall,
and
there
there
was
nothing
out
here
and
there's
about
eight
or
nine
thousand
people
living
in
in
new
tampa
at
the
time,
and
you
fast
forward
to
today
it's
about
50,
60,
000
people
living
out
here
today.
N
We've
had
a
population
boom,
it's
quite
the
understatement,
so
you
know
the
the
the
narrative
that's
been
going
through
with
without
the
new
campus,
obviously,
but
areas
of
the
system
hit
by
population
boom
over
the
last
few
years
and
a
lot
of
accommodations
could
be
made
for
that
and
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
B
A
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
caroline
bennett,
I'm
a
lifelong
resident
of
south
tampa.
This
is
a
very
small
change
that
applies
only
to
south
tampa
and
new
tampa.
As
david
said,
this
is
because
the
comp
plan
states
these
districts
are
unsuited
to
urbanization
and
increased
density.
Q
It
states
they
should
be
stable
and
have
the
lowest
amount
of
growth
in
the
city.
Some
developers
are
grossly
exaggerating.
The
effects
of
this
little
change
developers
can
still
build
between
30
and
50
units
per
acre
in
new
and
south
tampa.
If
they
build
what
the
zoning
allows,
they
can
still
use
far
in
new
and
south
tampa.
If
they
include
some
mixed
use,
they
can
still
get
some
increased
density
beyond
the
zoning
in
new
and
south
tampa.
Q
Q
Q
Some
developers
have
had
the
audacity
to
say
we
are
trying
to
direct
growth
away
from
saw
because
it
is
a
rich
white
community
and
they
don't
want
poor
renters
in
their
neighborhood.
That
statement
is
very
ironic,
since
it
is
their
luxury
housing
that
will
make
fog
richer
and
wider
than
it
is
now
in
reality.
Sog
is
one
of
the
most
diverse
areas
in
tampa.
My
alma
maters
monroe,
middle
school
and
robinson
high
school
were
naturally
integrated
before
forced
busing,
because
pork
tampa
had
a
significant,
diverse
community
made
up
of
families
who
owned
their
own
homes.
Q
Q
I
grew
up
in
track.
Housing,
the
mcdill
air
force
bases,
airmen
and
ncos
could
afford.
They
were
small
houses
for
working
people
and
they
were
affordable.
The
real
threat
to
the
diversity
of
the
community
is
the
luxury
housing
that
has
invaded
those
neighborhoods
and
put
property
prices
out
of
reach
for
average
working
men
and
women.
Q
A
Please
all
right!
Thank
you
all
right
who
we
have
next,
madam
debbie
clerk.
B
I
believe
stephanie
is
having
issues
with
her
camera
being
that
this
is
a
non-quasi
item.
Stephanie.
If
you
can
unmute
yourself,
you
have
three
minutes
to
speak.
Can
you
hear
me
we
can.
Q
Hear
you
sorry
about
that
with
the
camera
for
a
ratio,
it's
not
been
used
in
all
the
cases
that
we've
been
before
the
city
council
and
saw
there
are
more
workarounds
than
I
can
count
to.
The
removal
of
this
city
code
developers
can
buy
bonus
density
developers
can
build
mixed
use
and
still
use
the
far
developers
can
build
what
they
are
zoned
for.
Q
I
don't
know
about
new
tampa.
That's
not
my
area
of
expertise.
I
have
friends
for
that,
but
I
do
know
about
sog,
and
I
know
that
there
is
not
enough
room
on
this
peninsula
and
there's
not
enough
room
and,
namely
in
sog.
When
we
talk
about
where
is
there
enough
room
to
put
this
kind
of
density?
It's
in
sog,
it's
not
north
of
candy.
Q
Oh,
I
know
that
we
have
been
overwhelmed
by
the
number
of
multi-family
to
exceed
the
number
of
single-family
homes
in
our
area.
I
know
that
we
are
a
food
desert.
I
know
that
none
none,
none
for
a
third
time,
not
even
one
of
the
homes
that
have
been
added
to
our
community
in
the
last
five
years,
have
been
remotely
close
to
affordable,
so
scratch
that
developer
argument.
Q
They
also
need
to
build
some
three-bedroom
units.
We
are
sick
up
to
the
top
with
one
and
two
bedrooms
studios
nobody's
building
anything
for
families
down
here.
So,
let's,
let's
call
it
what
it
is.
It
is
a
bunch
of
whiny
people
who
are
used
to
getting
what
they
want
being
denied
what
they
are
asking
for.
Q
Q
A
This
point:
yes,
sir.
Yes,
sir,
we
had
a
conversation.
Last
week
I
still
hadn't
received
that
information,
but
I
was
looking
what
you
were
talking
about
for
other
cities
when
they
they
have
this
old
group
of
development
and
where
they
put
a
stop
to
it
to
where.
If
you
want
to
build,
you
have
to
build
to
what
the
city's
needs
are.
So
if
you
want
to
build
a
building
for
apartments,
you've
got
to
make
sure
that
apartment
has
enough
housing
for
that
community.
A
A
Got
some
stuff
but
send
me
what
you
have
and
I
think
that's
what
we
need
to
look
at.
Like
mr
miranda
says
time
of
changing
and
housing
is
a
crucial
issue
and
we
may
have
to
look
at
doing
something
like
other
cities
are
doing
to
come
up
with
the
time.
So
please
give
me
that
information
as
soon
as
you
can.
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
B
All
right,
the
last
sticker
is
david
mechanic.
However,
he
has
not
responded,
so
I'm
assuming
he
no
longer
wants
to
speak,
so
that
would
end
the
public.
Unfortunately,.
A
Okay,
mr
citro,
second,
that
movie
closed
by
mascara
all
in
favor.
A
Hippos
all
right
because
they
fell
moved
transmitted,
I'm
14.
O
Oh,
you
tortured
me
in
regard
to
file
tacpa
2111
transmittal
hearing
on
a
proposed
text,
amendment
establishing
a
geographic
area.
You
could
just
move.
B
N
Nothing
at
all.
Thank
you,
sir,
if
I
may
say
so,
a
good
meeting
a
lot
of
stuff
there
in
your
random
swift
meeting.
Thank
you,
sir.
O
Yes,
sir
david
hey,
did
you
leave
already?
Oh
there
you
are
so
I
would
like
the
planning,
commission
staff
and
city
staff
and
city
legal
to
come
back
to
us
by
the
december
first
meeting
of
december,
miss
shelley
december
second
or
fourth,
second,
sir.
Second,
during
staff
reports,
with
an
update
on
this
issue
of
of
what,
if
any
threshold
should
be
used
for
mixed
use,
development.
A
A
All
right,
gentlemen,
again
long
day,
instructed
mr
shelby
to
look
in
some
other
options
for
us
for
these
long
agenda
items
that
we've
been
facing
and
also
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
tampa
police
department.
There
were
five
indictments.
A
I
I
did
speak
to
the
chief
of
police
he's
out
of
town
on
the
conference,
but
he's
got
the
troops
here.
Working
and
apparently
there
may
be
some
more
indictments
coming
as
well.
So
I'm
happy
to
see
that
justice
for
the
little
girl
as
at
this
point,
where
we
get
some
convictions,
but
right
now
you
know
it's
the
big
thing.
There's
no
excuse
for
that.
Type
of
violence
was
killed,
unjustly
and
didn't
live
her
life.
So
someone
has
to
pay
for
that.
Unfortunately,
but
mr
maniscalco.
A
K
A
But
we
we
I'm
grateful
that
we
had
the
police
department
around
the
clock
to
finally
get
make
some
arrests
move
the
receiving
fight
all
right.
Mr
central
saying
mr
randall
in
favor
all
right
we're
a
german.