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H
Good
morning,
everyone
I'd
like
to
call
this
tampa
city
council
meeting
to
order
I
yield
to
council
member
citro
for
today's
invocation.
Councilman
citro.
B
He
is
the
pastor
of
the
saint
paul
lutheran
church
on
central
avenue
here
in
tampa
florida
and
of
faith
lutheran
on
north
florida
avenue.
He
is
a
graduate
of
union
theological
seminary
in
new
york
city
receiving
the
masters
of
divinity
degree
there
and
holds
a
doctorate
of
philosophy
degree
from
the
lutheran
theological
seminary
at
philadelphia.
B
A
Pastor,
thank
you.
Let
us
pray
most
holy.
God
send
your
spirit
of
wisdom,
which
is
known
to
the
peoples
throughout
the
world
and
throughout
history,
a
spirit
to
guide
the
deliberations
of
this
body
and
matters
both
great
and
small,
a
spirit
which
sews
within
us
love
for
one
another,
a
desire
to
serve
each
other
as
christ
washed
the
feet
of
his
own
students
and
a
readiness
to
yield
to
the
needs
of
others
and
not
insist
on
our
own
way.
A
A
Through
it
is
in
the
name
of
the
holy
one,
that
I
pray,
amen.
H
D
C
Yes,
thank
you
good
morning,
mr
chairman
members
of
tampa
city
council,
martin
shelby,
the
city
council
attorney
today
is
thursday
april
1st
of
2021
we're
here
at
old
city
hall
in
tampa,
and
this
is
during
the
covet
19
state
of
emergency.
This
meeting
is
being
conducted
with
a
live
in-person
quorum
of
the
city
council,
present
and
city
council
chambers.
I
C
C
There
have
been
ways
for
the
public
to
communicate
alternative
methods
to
communicate
with
city
council
in
preparation
for
this
meeting
among
them
is
to
speak
remotely
during
public
comment,
which
requires
pre-registration
and
that
is
to
to
follow
the
instructions
that
are
available
on
the
city
council's
web
page
dot,
gov
forward,
slash
city
council.
One
word
also.
Those
individuals
who
did
not
have
access
to
a
communications
media
device
have
the
option
of
participating
via
cmt,
which
is
being
made
available
to
the
public
by
the
city
of
tampa.
C
During
this
meeting
at
old
city
hall,
315
east
kennedy
boulevard.
On
the
second
floor,
please
note
that
use
of
masks
and
social
distancing
inside
the
building
are
required
now,
council.
With
regard
to
the
quasi-judicial
hearings
that
are
being
held
today,
those
instructions
are
available
for
participating
also
through
the
city's
city
council's
web
page
site
council.
C
The
comments
that
have
been
written,
the
written
comments
that
have
been
distributed
to
council
are
made
available
and
as
well,
those
that
have
been
distributed
timely
to
the
council
members
and
made
part
of
the
permanent
meeting
of
quasi-judicial
matters
are
also
available
for
public
inspection
through
the
the
web
page
and
council.
C
E
You,
mr
chairman,
in
regard
to
the
agenda,
I
apologize.
This
was
late
breaking
news
yesterday
and
yesterday
late
afternoon,
item
45,
which
is
the
the
revised
audit
ordinance.
E
H
J
Very
much
you
know
I
I
wasn't
here
during
the
beginning.
I
was
speaking
with
somebody
I
wanted
to
mention.
I
don't
think
we
mentioned
captain
michael
flynn
just
who,
who
passed
on
from
tampa
police
department,
of
course,
his
wife
that
just
just
good
people
and
and
captain
flynn
passed
on
not
about
probably
two
weeks
ago
or
so,
but
just
I
just
informally
wanted
to
send
out
council's
condolences
to
this
law
enforcement
family
and
to
the
family
and
loved
ones
of
of
captain
flynn.
H
C
If,
if
I
can,
mr
chairman,
just
to
look
at
the-
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
is
here
but
just
to
remind
council
that
there
was
a
memorandum
from
carol
post
requesting
continuance
of
the
item
to
may.
H
27Th
to
may
27th
can
I
have
a
motion
to
continue.
K
C
Mr
chairman,
one
more
item:
if
I
can
yep
with
regard
to
the
staff
reports
for
this
afternoon,
some
of
them
are
on
the
agenda
pursuant
to
council's
rules,
regard
or
counsel's
motion
regarding
the
dollar
amount.
Are
there
any
received
and
filed
memorandum
that
you
have
received
on
any
of
the
items
that
won't
require
stash?
They
can
be
excused
for
the
day.
H
K
H
Councilman
vera,
yes,
we
will
leave
her
there
item
46
and
then
47.
we'll
get
to
those
at
that
time
and
for
item
41.
Regarding
these
11
million
dollars
in
federal,
covet
funds.
H
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
addend
in
the
agenda
agenda.
H
Citroen
councilman
goods,
all
in
favor,
aye
all
right
item
number:
one
is
my
item
so
I'll
pass
the
gavel
over
to
chairpro
temsitro.
H
All
right,
this
is
going
to
be
done
virtually
I
do
have
a
an
actual
commendation
plaque,
but
there
we
go.
We
have
mr
vic
b
day
to
accept
this
commendation
on
behalf
of
pete
brett.
I'm
just
going
to
read
this
quickly
in
honor
of
mr
pete
brett.
Tampa
city
council
probably
presents
this
commendation
for
your
outstanding
achievements,
distinctive
contributions
and
your
ability
to
private
creative
solutions
to
complex
transportation
and
stormwater
related
issues
in
our
community.
Congratulations
on
your
retirement.
H
As
director
of
the
logistics
and
asset
management
department
was
also
key
to
the
city
of
tampa's
forward
progress.
It
is
with
pleasure
that
we,
the
temp
city
council,
present
you
with
this
well-earned
commendation
on
this
first
day
of
april
2021,
and
we
wish
you
good
health
and
happiness
in
your
forthcoming
retirement
and
again
on
behalf
of
mr
pete
brett
is
vic
b
day
to
accept
this
accommodation.
B
My
name
is
chair.
Yes,
sir
pete
enjoy
your
retirement.
Thank
you
for
everything.
You've
done
tampa
has
been
moving
so
rapidly
in
its
growth
and
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
being
a
part
of
making
sure
that
we
were
safe
in
this
city.
Thank
you,
pete,
for
all
of
all
you've
done
in
the
last
nine
years.
Thank.
F
Yes,
sir
vic
speedy
director
mobility
department,
thank
you
chair
and
council,
while
pete
couldn't
be
here
today.
I
know
that
he's
very
honored
to
receive
this
recognition
and
commendation.
Pete
is.
F
That
we
did
and-
and
you
know
you
read
out
the
long
list
of
his
accomplishments
I'll
just
add
by
saying
that
he
had
a
significant
impact.
D
H
K
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
chairman,
the
honorable
council
members,
my
pleasure
to
be
here
this
morning
with
a
very
young
lady
who
has
done
yeoman's
job
for
the
city
for
44
years,
and
you
know,
number
44
is
also
a
very
famous
number
that
was
used
by
one
of
the
nicest
guys
to
ever
pick
up
a
baseball,
bat,
a
glove
and
a
ball,
and
he
broke
baby
rules.
K
She
is
the
longest
serving
member
of
that
department,
so
she
is
historical
herself
and
what
she's
done
with
that
number
44.,
not
to
mention
that
for
over
four
decades
she
has
represented
all
the
council
members
all
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
tampa,
and
she
did
that
under
what
seven
mayors
you
deserve.
Seven
medals-
and
I
tell
you
it's
it's
an
honor
for
me
and
honor
for
the
council
to
present
this
to
you
judy
larry
poole.
K
It's
it's
a
pleasure
to
see
someone
who
has
done
the
job
and
who's
tenured
and
changed
with
society
as
the
inventions
were
invented.
Let
me
give
you
an
example.
I
know
that
when
you
started
everything
was
microfilmed.
What
happened
to
that?
We
got
rid
of
the
microphone,
but
they
didn't
get
rid
of
you.
K
No
that's
what
that's
what
it's
all
about
going
anywhere
and
that's
what
it's
all
about
and
your
optimism
your
willingness
to
change
and
learn
technology
is
what
made
you
part
of
that
understanding,
individual,
but
beside
all
that
it's
what's
inside
your
heart
and
the
willingness
to
participate
and
help
people
and
that's
what
life
is
all
about,
and
it's
just
more
than
this
combination
from
the
council.
It's
a
mannerism
in
which
you
took
those
44
years
and
did
something
with
them.
K
You
help
the
city
change,
you
helped
the
people
with
a
positive
attitude
and
you
had
tremendous
assistance
in
helping
other
young
people
come
up
through
the
ranks.
So
it's
just
more
than
a
combination
from
us.
It's
from
the
heart
of
each
council,
member
from
the
hearts
of
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
tampa
for
what
you've
done
for
44
years.
Congratulations!
F
K
M
K
H
I
M
I
That's
a
great
feeling
when
people
say
they
love
their
job
and
the
work
they're
doing
I
I
thank
you
for
the
work.
You've
done
a
lot
of
citizens
don't
know
in
our
charter.
The
clerk's
office
is
a
chart
segment
in
the
chart.
It
works
with
two
bodies,
the
administration
and
this
council
and
people
need
to
know
that
that
this
council
appreciates
the
clerk's
office
and
the
work
you've
done
over
there
and
to
going
through
that
many
mirrors
and
to
be
here
it's
a
privilege
to
say
thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
B
J
Thank
you
very
much,
sir.
No
just
wanted
to
commend
you
for
your
over
four
decades
of
work
here.
That's
something
to
be
so
proud
of.
I'm
so
glad
that
councilman
miranda
is
there
with
you
who
has
been
a
part
of
this
city
government
while
you've
been
here.
That's
such
a
great
thing
when
you
work
somewhere,
people
become
family
people
become
family.
I
remember
there
was
a
law
firm.
J
I
was
at
for
just
10
years
a
quarter
of
how
you've
been
here
and
saturday,
I'm
going
out
with
some
of
my
ex-staffers
just
because
we're
family
you
work
somewhere
for
a
while.
You
become
family
because
you
go
through
things
while
you're
at
work.
You
go
through
a
marriage,
maybe
god
willing
know
a
divorce,
but
whatever
you
go
through
having
kids
grandkids,
you
go
through
different
stages
in
your
life.
Imagine
you
at
25
versus
45
versus
50
versus
55.
J
You
go
through
different
stages
in
your
life
and
all
those
stages
you've
gone
through
here
in
the
city
of
tampa,
and
we
have
a
great
workforce
here
in
the
city
of
tampa.
But
I'm
glad
you
have
councilman
miranda
there,
because
nobody
is
more
protective
of
our
workforce
than
the
city
of
tampa
than
councilman
miranda,
because
he's
been
here
and
he
knows
he
knows
how
things
work
and
he
knows
that
people
like
you
make
it
work.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
all
your
work
and
god
bless
you.
E
Well,
ma'am,
we
are
so
appreciative
of
of
you
and
and
and
and
folks,
like
you
in
the
city
who
put
in
their
their
really
their
their
whole
career
to
to
help
and
support.
I
wanted
to
recognize
our
clerk
shirley
fox
knowles
behind
you
and
and
jennifer
dietz
and
and
his
council
already
indicated.
You
know
it's
a
team.
It's
a
team
effort
and
you've
been
a
great
part
of
that
team.
E
I
remember
years
ago
the
I
was
working
with
the
state
of
florida
and
we
we
were
on
micro
fish.
I
don't
know
if
micro
fish,
but
it
was
before
microfilm
or
not,
but
yeah
after
a
while,
we
start
feeling
a
bit
dinosaurs,
but
anyway
we
we
congratulate
you
and
we
wish
you
all
the
best
of
luck
in
all
your
future
ventures.
Thank
you.
N
So
when
you
double
this
number
of
years
and
hit
88
years,
I
hope
that
councilman
randa
gives
you
another
commendation.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I'll
be
160.
K
H
That
concludes
the
accommodations,
we'll
go
to
public
comment.
Each
speaker
has
three
minutes
after
each
speaker
will
sanitize
the
lectern
for
everybody's
safety
and
and
we'll
begin
with
in
person
after
after
this
just
a.
G
H
F
G
H
C
Good
morning
my
name
is
fali
garcia,
I'm
a
local
business
owner.
I
own
an
architectural
company,
a
minority-owned
architectural
company,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
item
46
in
your
agenda.
C
I
think
that
a
broad
pain
stroke
is
being
painted
over
this
issue
and
without
really
thinking
what
other
neighborhoods
is
really
affecting.
For
example,
igbor
city
eboard
city
is
an
important
urban
core
in
the
city,
it's
the
heartbeat
of
tampa
and
most
of
the
zoning
in
newborn
cities,
umu-60
cc35
and
the
third
zoning
that
is
being
proposed
to
to
be
currently
changed.
C
The
far
versus
unit
as
a
measure
to
come
up
with
density
for
a
project
is
extremely
important
in
urban
areas,
especially
in
ebor
city,
because
properties
are
small,
you're
restricted.
So,
therefore,
the
unit
per
acre
is
not
a
feasible
way
of
developing
and
creating
a
vibrant
urban
scenario.
So
I
am
here
today
as
a
concerned
citizen
and
as
a
concern.
Local
business
owner.
H
F
Good
morning
my
name
is
sam
harris,
I'm
with
sam
gin,
residential
commercial
realty,
I'm
the
principal
broker
opportunity,
zone
advisor
and
developer
over
the
last
two
years.
I've
come
before
this
city
council
encouraged
you
to
be
a
part
of
opportunity
zone
events
that
my
firm
put
on
to
educate
the
city
of
tampa
the
need
and
the
importance
of
opportunities
on
perspectives
to
no
avail.
F
Over
the
last
three
months
there
was
an
rfp
that
was
put
out
for
opportunities
on
prospectus.
My
company
did
not
receive
the
initial
response
to
be
able
to
bid
on
the
opportunity
zone.
Therefore,
we
put
together
a
coalition
of
individuals,
wait.
H
Just
a
moment,
sir,
one
of
our
attorneys
is
is
going
to
speak.
Yes,
miss.
L
I
believe
the
gentleman
is
addressing
an
rfp
which
has
not
yet
been
rewarded
and,
as
I
believe
many
of
you
know
during
the
procurement
process,
there
is
something
in
effect
called
the
cone
of
silence
where
all
individuals
who
are
participating
in
the
process
are
not
to
discuss
the
rfp
with
anyone
other
than
certain
identified
individuals,
which
certainly
does
not
include
the
members
of
the
city
council
or
the
public.
So
I
would
I
would
caution
this
gentleman
to
not
discuss
a
particular
rfp
which
is
still
under
a
cone
of
silence.
F
F
My
firm
has
over
125
years
of
experience
and
the
individual
that
was
reviewing
the
file
cara
post
gave
my
company
a
one
rating.
At
this
point,
I'm
not
interested
in
the
opportunities
on
prospectus.
What
I'm
interested
in
is
to
make
sure
that
african-american
men
and
women
have
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
engage
with
this
city.
F
F
I
am
asking
for
this
city
council
to
stop
the
rfp
in
its
tracks.
I
don't
care
about
a
cone
of
silence.
What
I
care
about
is
for
opportunities
for
other
people.
I
don't
need
opportunities
on
perspectives.
I
don't.
I
got
projects
all
over
the
united
states,
but
there
are
people
out
there
that
don't
have
a
voice
that
can't
get
in
and
it
is
appalling
that
the
city
of
tampa
in
2021
will
allow
this
to
happen.
F
F
F
It
is
absolutely
insane
for
any
public
official
to
review
or
rfp
in
the
way
that
they
did
my
firm
and
they're
denying
opportunity
for
african-americans
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
business
is
closed
for
african-americans
in
the
city
of
tampa.
If
you're
trying
to
do
something
good.
Thank.
H
You
and
it
should
not
be-
we
have,
I
think,
some
council
members
that
want
to
respond.
Councilman
goods
councilman,
wait.
C
If
I
can,
mr
chairman,
yes,
I
just
want
to
remind
council
about
its
rules,
and
certainly
it's
your
prerogative
and
council's
prerogative,
but
to
engage
the
speakers
and
dialogue
during
public
comment
is
normally
something
that
is
not
take
place
in
city
council.
If
it
council
wishes
to
do
that,
it's
certainly
your
prerogative,
but
I
can
read
you
the
rule
that
that
discourages
that
no.
I
You
know
this
council
has
been
working
hard
to
make
sure
the
numbers
are
increasing
on
that
on
our
eboo
programs
and
our
contracts,
and
recently
I've
been
seeing
that
with
some
of
the
contracts
that
have
been
coming
through,
but
we
still
have
a
few
challenges.
I
did
make
a
call
to
ms
post.
Remember
some
emails
I
got.
She
did
tell
me
in
reference
to
that
that
that
process
is.
L
I
I'll
I'll
take
your
advice
myself.
I
just
want
to
know
that
there
are
conversations
and
I'm
hoping
that
this
thing
will
be
resolved,
but,
mr
harris,
I
I
do
understand
your
frustration
and
this
council
is
working
hard
to
try
to
correct
some
wrongs
that
have
been
done
in
the
past.
I
We're
working
working
very
diligently
with
the
mayor,
there's
some
projects
coming
on
board
and
we're
monitoring
all
projects
very
closely,
and
I
can
assure
you
we'll
be
monitoring
each
and
every
project
to
make
sure
that
there's
fairness
and
opportunity
and
equity
in
all
of
our
contracts.
Thank
you,
sir.
F
F
False
information
for
certification.
Now,
if
that's,
not
a
form
of
systemic
racism
within
the
system,
I
don't
know
what
is
so.
I
want
it
to
be
heard
that
this
will
not
be
tolerated,
that
if
you
want
to
be
fair
in
this
community,
you're
going
to
have
to
be
transparent
and
it
does
not
need
to
fall
only
on
the
hands
of
the.
F
P
P
Okay,
I'm
seeing
that
there's
a
lot
of
promises
that's
being
made,
and
I
want
to
go
on
record
and
I'm
saying
it's
not
being
delivered.
Those
programs
are
not
helping.
We
have
tried
a
lot
so
in
this.
This
is
one
way
that
I'm
trying
to
get
my
voice
across
to
let
you
know
that
we
we
just
you
know
as
a
person
and
it's
you
know
I
work
with
the
community.
You
know
it's
it's
a
lot
of
stuff
has
got
to
stop.
I
believe
we
want
more.
I
miss
councilman
ghouls.
P
P
I
I
disagree
with
that.
I
want
to
go
on
record
saying
I
completely
disagree
with
that.
They
do
want
more
and
they
do
want
it
real
bad
and
I'm
very
disappointed,
and
it
was
a
very
offensive.
I'm
a
mother
of
two
brown
boys
and
I
know
the
fear
that
they
have
when
they
go
into
workplace,
trying
to
just
just
working
and
just
going
out
in
public.
P
You
know-
and
it's
and
it's
really
discouraging,
to
see
that
people
you
know
even
in
east
tampa,
you
could
practically
have
a
dead
body
on
the
road
and
it
wouldn't
even
matter
because
you
know
it's
so
horrible
out
there
and
we
know
the
conditions
we
know
what
they're
facing
we
know
on
the
job.
You
know
that
we're
facing
a
lot
of
disparities.
P
We
got
to
be
real
about
this.
We
deserve
a
chance.
We
want
more
jobs.
You
did
promise
more
jobs
and
I
hope
you
make
do
want
it.
We
need
better
housing
that
we
can
own
rather
than
crumbs.
That
you
know
can
be
snatched
away
and
you
know
things
are
getting
worse.
I
don't
think
that
we
need
to
have
informants.
P
You
know
in
our
area.
You
also
mentioned
informants
and
I
don't
think
we
need
to
have
informants
to
stop
the
crime.
The
jails
are
overcrowded.
There's
way
more.
You
know
that
we
need
to
do
to
help
people
than
to
keep
locking
them
up,
because
when
they
get
out,
they
still
won't
have
a
home
and
they
still
will
be
even
more
discouraged
and
pissed
off.
Okay,
you're
speaking,
you
know,
I'm
a
mother
of
a
28
year
old,
black
male
and
a
21
year
old,
black
male,
and
it
is
scary
out
there.
P
So
I'm
hoping
that
you
make
good
on
some
good
programs
for
our
children,
so
they
can
do
something
and
have
somewhere
to
go.
You
know,
especially
their
crowd
in
the
streets
in
sulphur
springs
and
they're,
making
a
mess.
I
don't
blame
the
kids.
I
believe
I
blame
the
policy
makers
because
there
should
be
more
for
them
to
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
P
I
Gentlemen,
I
had
a
conversation
with
cerro
of
the
silver
springs
neighborhood
and
that's
another
big
focus
of
our
platform
on
the
second
half
of
council.
For
me
that
conversation
was
recorded.
I
made
it
clear
about
some
programs
that
we
like
to
try
to
get
up
there
with
some
things.
We
talk
about
apprenticeship
programs,
making
sure
that
work.
That's
going
up
there.
I
So
let
me
say
if,
if
I
offended
the
young
lady
I,
but
I
made
myself
clear
that
day
too,
when
she
said
she
was
offended
and
the
other
people
that
were
on
the
call
on
the
zoom
call
also
heard
what
I
said
and
concurred
with
some
of
the
things
I
was
saying.
So
let
me
make
that
clear.
I
always
take
care
of
my
own.
I
make
sure
my
own
have
and
try
to
get
programs
out
there,
so
they
can
be
able
to
be
successful
because
if
you're
not
successful,
you
can't
succeed.
I
You
can't
get
to
the
next
level,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
clear
that
up
if
she
was
offended
again
me
apologize
to
her
for
my
verbage,
but
I
was
clear
that
I
want
our
young
black
males
working.
I
want
them
to
crime
free,
I
want
them.
I
want
the
best
for
them
and
I
always
try
to
because
everyone
knows
in
this
diocese
how
many
youth
programs
I
put
together,
how
many
young
black
males
I've
sent
to
school
or
paid
for
to
go
to
school.
I
M
Yes,
good
morning
connie
burton
you
know,
I
want
to
congratulate
the
employee
that
endured
44
years.
M
M
And
so,
when
we
talk
about
this
culture-
and
let
me
just
say
this
as
well-
I'm
encouraged
what
I
hear
coming
out
of
washington
d.c
from
the
leadership
of
the
democratic
political
party,
because
he
understand
that
there
is
a
debt
due
that
the
promises
that
is
made
by
political
lips
at
one
time.
Another
has
to
be
a
reckoning,
and
so
the
president
is
moving
forward
and
talking
about
job
creation.
M
When
we
come
down
here
a
lot
of
time,
we
hear
from
zero
zero
zero
point,
one
percent
the
level
of
african
participation
when
we
talk
about
homes
and
home
ownership
in
our
community
there's
ways
in
which
we
can
solve
some
of
these
problems
in
east
tampa
that
it
can
be
an
east
temple
for
all.
You
know.
I
hear
this
comment
all
the
time
that
we
are
afraid
of
the
others,
the
others
that
are
coming
well.
M
H
Q
Mantis
not
tampa
florida
want
to
say
something
to
the
city
council
and
some
of
the
white
people
in
general.
They
have
a
process
of
evolving
oppression,
evolving
racism,
taking
it
to
another
level.
When
you
come
right
here
to
city
council,
you
got
police
officers
watching
you,
security
guards
harassing
you
just
because
you
want
to
speak
for
three
minutes
and
the
city
is
so
disrespectful
that
the
fact
of
the
matter
is,
although
you
have
an
open
mic
to
speak
for
three
minutes,
they
interrupt
you.
They
say:
that's
not
an
agenda.
Q
We
don't
want
to
talk
about
this,
but
we
see
it's
an
urgency
for
african
people.
An
african
man
was
just
here,
mr
sam
harris,
to
speak
about
something.
Oh,
that's,
not
an
agenda.
That's
this
garbage
man!
It's
a
garbage
city
council!
That's
what
it
is,
but
it's
a
certain
kind
of
hate.
It's
a
certain
kind
of
hate.
You
have
for
blackness,
it's
a
certain
kind
of
hate.
You
have
for
black
skin.
It's
a
certain
kind
of
hate.
You
have
for
black
existence
and
that
kind
of
hatred
have
to
stop.
Q
You
have
no
respect
for
african
people,
no
respect
for
diversity.
No
respect
for
reform,
no
respect
for
reconciliation,
no
respect
for
reparations,
yes
reparations,
600
years,
400
years
on
this
continent,
no
respect
for
the
26
percent
of
the
african
population
in
this
city
and
keep
trying
to
push
us
out
and
push
us
under.
That's
why
you
keep
finding
all
these
graveyards
just
popping
up
everywhere.
Q
We
get
no
respect
in
this
city,
like
rodney
dangerfield,
say
we
get
no
respect
absolutely
positively.
No
respect
shout
out
to
mr
moses
knox,
who
came
down
here,
trying
to
get
a
little
respect
with
us
trying
to
take
his
property,
but
he
got
no
respect
and
he's
deceased
and
he's
gone,
but
at
least
he
has
an
embodiment
of
the
resistance
that
exists
within
african
people
that
we
say
no
matter
what
no
matter
how
it
comes,
no
matter
how
y'all
try
to
oppress
us,
suppress
us.
Keep
us
down.
Q
Q
Over
600
000
bicycle
stops
and
no
respect;
no
apologies,
no,
nothing!
No
jobs,
no
opportunities,
no
housing,
pushing
us
out
of
our
communities
and
laughing
about
it
and
think
y'all
can
get
a
few
uncle
toms
and
aunty
mamas
together
and
say:
hey,
like
y'all
hold
that
down
get
a
whole
few
preachers
together
and
let
them
come
in
and
give
an
invocation
and
say
hold
that
down
this
tampa
city
council
have
to
tighten
up.
Q
Q
Y'all
grown
folks
around
here
telling
people
how
to
dress
and
what
sign
they
can
hold,
but
developers
can
bring
all
kinds
of
signs
in
here
to
express
the
way
they
feel,
but
african
people
who've
been
oppressed
for
400
years.
We
can't
bring
a
sign
in
to
express
the
way
we
feel
man
tighten
up
man.
Our
people
should
not
accept
and
would
not
accept
those
conditions
of
oppression
anymore.
It's
done
and
it's
over
with.
H
A
A
Initially,
given
the
gravity
of
the
of
the
ordinance,
I
ask
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
also
speak
when
the
engine
agenda
item
is
called.
If
no
other
issues
are
raised
about
the
ordinance
and
I'm
certain
that's
at
the
council's
discretion.
But
perhaps
we
can
talk
again
if,
if
other
issues
come
up
as
to
the
memorandum
that
has
been
prepared
by
ms
post
and
miss
grimes,
I
I
tend
to
to
be
in
agreement
with
the
with
the
intent
of
the
document.
A
I
do,
however,
have
some
some
concerns
that
the
and
I'm
reading
from
from
the
memorandum
that
you're
eliminating
the
far
calculation
in
the
u60
cmu
35
and
the
cc35
which
which
I
think
is
okay.
I
think
it's
quite
confusing
in
fact,
and
requires
an
extensive
development
agreement.
I
don't
have
too
much
issue
with
that,
we'll
just
build
according
to
the
density,
and
that's
that's
the
government's
prerogative,
but
I'm
a
little
bit
concerned
in
the
next
paragraph.
A
I
think
that
is
far
by
another
name.
However,
the
city
council
dictates,
regardless
of
market
forces,
whether
your
project's
approved
or
not
dependent
upon
whether
the
city
council
likes
the
amount
of
mixed
use
or
the
type
of
mixed
use,
and
I
think
that
is
a
very
tricky
way
for
land
use
approvals
to
go,
especially
in
the
mixed
use
context
that
needs
to
be
dictated
by
market
forces.
A
You
cannot
just
mandate
25
retail
in
a
project
where
there
is
no
retail
demand,
for
instance,
look
at
some
of
the
corners
downtown
where
mixed
use
has
been
put
in
and
also
look
at,
for
instance,
the
encore
project.
You
cannot
central
plan
and
require
that
as
a
condition
to
zoning.
So
I'm
concerned
about
two
words:
well,
three,
several
words
discretion
to
direct
and
case
by
case
basis.
I
think
that
opens
the
door
to
a
lot
of
mischief,
and
I
think
you
ought
to
take
that
out.
A
N
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
members
of
council,
my
name
is
mark
bentley,
401,
east
jackson,
street
suite
3100
tampa
33602.
I
represent
the
capitano
family
and
daryl
shaw
and
alan
kahana
owners
of
property
in
the
greater
ybor
historic
district.
I
didn't
intend
to
be
here
this
morning.
We
received
a
memo
dated
march
30
yesterday
afternoon
and
the
the
intent
of
the
discussion
as
we've
been
monitoring.
N
N
The
stakeholders
need
war
city,
I
think
tampa
heights
and
the
other
urban
redevelopment
areas
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
this.
So
I
think
it's
kind
of
a
poor
way
to
do
business
actually
scrambling
over
here
to
get
three
minutes
of
time
in
front
of
you.
But
in
any
event,
over
the
course
of
last
year
and
a
half
city
council's
approved
three
land
use
changes
in
ybor
city.
That
I've
been
that
I
represent
the
owners
on
that
allowed
for
the
use
of
the
far
to
facilitate
urban
redevelopment.
N
The
urban
redevelopment,
their
challenges
are
smaller
properties,
higher
land
cost,
rigid
architectural
design
standards,
unreasonable,
height
limitations,
45
60
feet
on-site
parking
required.
So
you
can
see
that,
under
these
circumstances,
you
need
to
have
the
ability
to
have
as
many
units
as
possible
on
the
property.
Now
the
barrio
latino,
for
example,
they're
not
concerned
about
number
of
units
in
nebraska.
They
just
are
concerned
about
the
exterior
appearance,
so.
N
So
I
would
encourage
council
not
to
make
a
hasty
decision
give
us
the
opportunity
to
sit
down
with
the
planners
or
whoever
else
is
involved.
You
feel
necessary
to
be
engaged
in
the
discussion
and
don't
make
a
hasty
decision
on
this,
but
it's
going
to
have
far-reaching
negative
implications.
It's
been
very
successful.
We're
working
on
three
projects
right
now
that
utilize
far
in
ebor
city-
and
we
couldn't
have
done
these
projects
if
this
situation
existed,
where
these
three
mixed-use
categories
eliminated
the
ability
to
do
that.
So
thanks
for
your
time.
H
E
Yes,
thank
you.
My
name
is
randy
cohen
good
morning,
council
members,
I'd
like
to
speak
on
item
46
and
I
will
be
very
brief.
I
have
done
a
prepared
presentation
regarding
the
resolution
based
upon
transportation
impacts,
and
I
understand
that
that's
now
on
the
wayside
and
we're
dealing
with
the
alternative
resolution,
I
would
simply
suggest
and
urge
you
to
follow
the
principles
in
the
comprehensive
plan
which
directs
growth
to
downtown
west
shore
usf
and
the
urban
villages
that
are
contained
within
the
comp
plan.
In
those.
B
E
I
would
recommend
that
you
not
eliminate
the
faar
option:
cmu
35,
cc35
and
umu
60..
In
this
way
you
would
be
encouraging
growth
in
those
areas
that
the
comp
plan
directs
growth
to,
and
you
would
be
providing
a
hindrance
for
folks
wanting
to
develop
in
other
areas,
which
I
believe
would
be
in
keeping
with
the
spirit
of
the
company.
R
Yes,
mr
chairman,
council
members,
my
name
is
david
mechanic.
Can
you
hear
me.
R
Thank
you.
I
am
here
I'm
here
to
speak
on
item
46..
I
represent
piper
ventures,
which
is
a
substantial
property
owner
rattlesnake
point
area.
R
We
my
clients,
have
asked
me
to
say
that
we
support
the
idea
of
pursuing
conference
of
plan
changes
through
the
normal
comprehensive
plan
process,
we're
not
necessarily
endorsing
the
specific
ones
that
are
currently
being
proposed,
but
we
do
support
the
idea
of
going
through
that
process.
R
On
the
other
hand,
we
object
to
the
fact
that
this
resolution
and
proposed
ordinance
makes
changes
that
will
go
into
effect
immediately,
and
I
think
that
is
the
concern
regarding
that
is
of
titan.
Given
the
fact
that
yesterday
was
the
first
time
we
saw
a
document
that
would
it
have
an
impact
study
why
the
entire
city
would
have
the
potential
impact
of
this
painted
language.
R
We
think
doing.
That
is
completely
wrong.
Again.
We
encourage
the
city
council
to
follow
a
normal
plan,
amendment
process,
which
would
involve
a
betting
of
language,
public
workshops,
public
hearings
and
allow
full
transparency
and
narrowing
of
all
kinds
of
different
points
of
view,
not
through
an
instantaneous
regulation
but
through
the
normal
plant
amendment
for
us.
Thank
you.
S
Council
good
morning,
this
is
jake
kramer
at
stearns
weaver.
I
appreciate
your
time
this
morning
and
I
would
just
like
to
build
on
dave
mechanic's
comments.
I
I
agree
with
him
and
some
of
the
other
folks
from
the
land
use
bar
who
have
spoken
this
morning
already.
S
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
I
like
about
working
in
the
city
of
tampa
is
that
it's
a
deliberative
city
and
we
have
a
good
process
to
go
through
get
feedback
from
the
citizens
from
the
community
from
staffs
of
our
different
organizations
here
and
from
property
owners,
and
so
the
the
way
to
go
through
this
is
is
through
that
process.
S
I
agree
with
with
dave
that
my
concern
with
the
proposed
ordinance
resolution
before
you
today
is
is:
it
includes
the
term
the
pending
ordinance
doctrine,
and
essentially
my
understanding
of
the
way
that
would
be
applied
is
that
it
would
be
a
moratorium
under
another
name.
S
While
we
go
through
this
process
and
comprehensive
plan
amendments
do
take
a
long
time
and
no
one
to
my
knowledge
has
has
analyzed
the
effects
of
what
that
moratorium
under
another
name
would
have
across
the
city.
You
know,
personally,
we
were
just
given
this
new
proposal
yesterday
and
and
again,
I
think
it
could
have
some
merit
but
pressing
the
pause
button
across
the
entire
city
in
these
land
use
categories,
and
it
was
not
the
the
right
way
to
go
through
this
deliberation.
S
One
of
the
concerns
I
have
about
the
current
proposal
is
that
it
could,
you
know,
could
push
against
our
efforts
to
build
more
affordable
housing
and
workforce
housing
in
the
city,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
think
the
pending
ordinance
doctrine
is
is
not
appropriate.
In
this
circumstances,
we
just
haven't
analyzed
those
questions
yet
so
again,
I
think
we're
headed
in
the
right
direction.
There's
been
some
really
good
conversations
and
we
really
just
want
to
be
able
to
continue
those
conversations
going
through
the
normal
process.
G
Yes,
elise
batzle
also
with
stearns
weaver
miller,
401,
east
jackson
street.
I
was
one
of
the
few
members
of
the
development
community
who
attended
between
the
city
and
the
south
of
gandhi,
neighbors,
and
the
first
thing
I
want
to
say
after
attending
that
meeting
is
we
really
do
appreciate
all
of
staff's
work
to
address
and
try
to
come
up
with
solutions
that
address
the
concerns
of
the
south
of
gandhi
neighborhood.
G
I
am
very
supportive
of
eliminating
the
far
south
of
gandhi.
We
know
that
any
solution
isn't
perfect,
but
after
hearing
those
concerns
we
do
feel,
like
you
know,
eliminating
the
far
south
of
gandhi
can
be
a
very
good
first
step
in
addressing
some
of
their
concerns.
G
We
also
have
concerns
about
the
city-wide
application
of
the
far
you
know.
After
friday's
meeting,
we
started
to
look
and
really
think
about
what
would
be
the
implications,
and
we
are
concerned
about
areas
that
staff
has
identified
as
urban
villages
where
you
want
density
to
be
located.
G
So
I
would
ask
you
to
consider
limiting
this
far
elimination
to
the
area
where
it
was
originally
meant
to
address
the
concerns,
which
is
the
south
of
gandhi
neighborhood,
and
if
there
is
an
intent
to
move
forward
with
a
city-wide
elimination,
I
would
encourage
city,
council
and
staff
to
begin
to
have
discussions
with
all
of
the
neighborhoods
that
would
be
affected,
because
I
think
that
would
be
very
important
and
we,
as
a
development
community,
are
encouraged
and
like
to
continue
to
work
on
developing
solutions
for
this
issue.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
G
Good
morning,
members
of
council
jennifer
motzinger
with
the
tampa
bay
builders
association
representing
those
who
build
the
american
dream
of
home
ownership.
I
agree
with
my
colleagues
in
the
industry
and
members
that
a
moratorium
is
not
necessary
to
address
the
issues
brought
forward
related
to
growth.
G
The
proposed
alternative
comp
plan
amendment
process
will
afford
interested
parties
opportunities
for
engagement
before
finalizing
this
important
policy.
I
support
the
request
to
provide
exceptions
where
you
want
to
target
growth,
and
if
there
are
any
projects
in
process,
please
consider
allowing
those
to
continue
in
the
process
since
they
may
be
unaware
of
the
immediate
change
in
policy.
G
Developers
must
follow
the
rules
of
this
jurisdiction
and
they
do
want
certainty.
They
need
certainty
or
they
won't
see.
The
value
in
investing
here
and
tbba
has
been
very
consistent
in
that
request
of
at
least
30
days
communication
before
any
change
in
policy
or
process
takes
place,
and
that
affects
a
lot
of
resources
on
both
sides
of
the
aisle
and
it's
just
professional
courtesy.
G
G
Good
morning
kyle,
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity,
I'm
ann
kulig
executive
director
of
the
western
alliance,
also
here
to
speak
on
item
46.
again.
As
the
other
speakers
have
said,
I
really
want
to
thank
the
administration
for
their
work
on
this.
I
know
it
is
challenging
to
balance
the
concerns
of
so
many
different
parties.
G
You
know
others
have
talked
about
this,
but
after
reviewing
the
staff
proposal,
I
think
we
do
need
to
consider
exempting
the
major
planning
areas
central
tampa
west
shore
university
area
that
encompasses
ebore
the
height.
You
know
neutron
park
lots
of
areas
where
your
comp
plan
says
we
want
growth
and
growth
is
appropriate.
G
G
I
understand
the
city's
proposal
provides
for
getting
that
far
density
through
mixed-use
projects,
but
you
know
I
contend.
These
major
planning
areas
are
already
largely
mixed
use.
Districts.
They
have
a
variety
of
you
know:
retail
office
hotel
uses.
You
know,
I
know
in
the
case
of
west
shore,
we
have
plenty
of
those
uses,
the
use
we
need
more
of
is
residential
development,
and
the
comp
plan
specifically
mentions
attracting
more
residential
investment
to
west
shore.
So
really
I
want
to
thank
you
for
their
time.
G
G
So
again,
we're
supportive
of
that
comprehend
plan
process
we'd
like
to
see
exemptions
for
these
major
planning
districts,
where
you've
already
determined
that
growth
is
appropriate
and
then
really,
if
you
can,
we
would
prefer
that
this
not
go
into
effect
immediately.
We
don't
think
there's
been
enough
notice
or
discussion
with
all
of
the
affected
city-wide
areas.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
very
much.
P
H
P
R
D
R
Exclude
the
urban
villages
as
ann
and
some
of
the
others
have
pointed
out.
This
is
where
you've
directed
growth
to
occur
and
there's
been
no
discussion
outside
of
the
south
agandi
area
that
that
any
proposal
would
be
affecting
them
at
all
would
like
to
clarify
the
application
in
section
two
of
the
resolution
where
it
says
the
city
will
not
accept
any
rezoning
applications
effective
immediately.
R
We'd
like
to
re
remind
the
council
that
it
needs
to
be
spelled
out.
It
refers
back
to
section
one,
but
it's
not
clear
exactly
how
that
would
work,
but
you
do
jeopardize
by
adopting
this
immediately
the
downtown
channel
side,
ybor
city,
usf,
the
west
shore
area,
east
tampa
and
all
of
the
infield
areas
that
you've
designated
already
as
being
in
need
of
redevelopment,
particularly
for
multi-family.
R
Go
ahead.
I
mean
find
transmit
this
document
to
the
planning
commission
so
that
we
can
begin
the
studies,
the
base
decisions
and
collect
the
data
necessary
to
make
an
informed
decision,
and
at
this
point
there
has
not
been
any
demonstrated
urgency
regarding
this
plan
of
why
it
has
to
be
adopted
immediately
and
why
it
would
have
to
go
into
effect
today.
If
you
don't
have
a
project
any
today,
then
you
basically
are
shut
out.
R
So
there's
some
tweaking
that
we
would
really
appreciate
in
here,
and
that
is
again
exclude.
The
urban
villages
eliminate
the
pending
ordinance,
where
it
would
not
go
into
effect
immediately
and
clarify
the
far
eligibility
and
and
how
it
would
be
applied
to
other
projects
that
are
not
necessarily
multi-family
projects.
We
appreciate
your
time
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
consideration.
F
L
L
L
L
Recently
was
said
that
we
do
not
actually
represent
the
residents
of
south
tampa
that
we
are
just
a
few
malcontents
and
only
represent
our
own
individual
views
when
our
neighbors
found
out
they
responded
and
they
responded
with
a
vengeance.
The
city
council
and
the
mayor's
office
were
flooded
with
phone
calls
in
just
a
few
days.
They
would
have
gotten
even
more
if
the
phone
line
hadn't
gone
down
for
a
while
the
thing
that
residents
want
most
is
to
be
heard
and
to
be
protected.
L
L
I
am
very
encouraged
by
this
administration
by
the
mayor
by
the
chief
of
staff
by
the
city
department,
heads
and
their
staff,
I'm
encouraged
by
the
city
council.
I
truly
believe
that
all
of
you
care
about
the
residents
and
truly
want
to
do
what
is
best
for
us
as
a
whole
item
number
46
is
a
first
step
in
protecting
south
tampa
residents
from
deadly
hurricanes
and
protecting
the
character
of
our
neighborhoods
and
achieving
the
goals
and
objectives
of
the
comprehensive
plan.
There
is
no
reason
to
delay
this.
It
is
not
a
moratorium.
L
A
moratorium
is
what
the
county
commissioners
have
done.
I
ask
you
to
vote
yes
on
item
46
and
a
table
in
actual
moratorium
for
six
months
to
give
the
city
staff
time
to
work
on
the
other
issues
that
we
have
discussed
with
them.
I
want
to
thank
you
and
the
mayor
and
all
of
the
staff
for
your
hard
work
and
your
attention
to
our
concerns.
G
Hello,
my
name
is
jean
stromeier,
president
of
interbay,
south
of
gandy
neighborhood
association.
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
coming
to
the
table
last
friday.
Finally,
after
a
year
and
a
half
of
conversations,
hearings
and
mediations,
we
finally
came
together.
This
includes
those
from
the
developer's
side,
mr
loman,
and
attorney
elise
bastille.
We
don't
always
see
eye
to
eye,
but
we
can
and
should
work
together
to
do
our
best
to
come
up
with
solutions
before
litigation.
G
Thank
you
also
to
the
city
staff,
including,
but
not
limited
to
our
city,
attorneys,
kate,
wells
and
gina
grimes
for
working
hard
to
balance
the
demands
of
we,
the
people,
the
developers,
city,
council
and
the
executive
branch
enough
said
there
a
huge
thank
you
to
our
best
and
most
prized
advocate
marie
holmes.
Her
efforts
at
keeping
the
peace
are
amazing.
G
I
would
like
to
nominate
her
for
accommodation
on
behalf
of
our
sog
neighborhood
associations.
We
love
maureen.
She
deserves
much
recognition
and
we
also
want
to
thank
abby,
philly,
randy,
goers,
chief
of
staff,
john
bennett,
carol,
post
and
the
mayor
for
coming
to
the
table
with
us
and
actually
listening
to
our
concerns,
as
it
relates
to
south
tampa,
but
more
specifically,
sog.
G
Those
asking
and
saying
that
that
not
being
affected
immediately
does
not
change.
Those
does
not
change
the
projects
already
are
zoned
and
underway.
So
that's
incorrect.
What
they're,
saying
and
for
the
city
to
be
able
to
look
at
things
on
a
case-by-case
basis
is,
is
a
good
idea.
G
So
it's
not
a
blanket
for
everybody,
but
today
we
ask
city
council
to
not
kill
the
emotion
moratorium
but
to
shelf
it
for
six
months
so
that
we
can
reassess
how
things
are
going
with
the
ordinance,
which
will
hopefully
give
us
the
confidence
to
do
away
with
the
motion
altogether.
So
for
now
I
support
the
resolution
as
proposed
march
30th,
of
course,
pending
any
revisions
by
our
wise
and
studious
city.
Councilmen
vote
yes
for
number
46.
Thank
you
guys.
F
R
R
Look,
no
one
has
truly
wanted
this
as
a
solution
to
the
problems
in
sog,
but
for
far
too
long
it
seemed
like
this
is
all
we
were
going
to
get.
Finally,
just
last
friday
the
leaders
were
sold.
The
mayor
chief
of
staff
and
key
members
from
the
mayor's
administration
and
various
departments
met
with
us
to
listen
to
our
concern.
R
This
was
a
breakthrough
meeting
that
was
long
and
I
emphasized
long
overdue.
I
want
to
say
that
the
nearly
100
people
who
called
two
weeks
ago
for
the
march
18
city
council
meeting
their
voice
was
heard.
The
people
who
took
the
time
to
email,
city,
council
and
the
mayor
their
voice
was
heard.
The
realization
finally
set
in
that
the
fight
all
of
us
have
come
forth
with
was
not
just
from
six
disgruntled
people.
It
was,
and
continues
to
be
on
behalf
of
thousands
of
people.
R
Now,
what
all
of
you
experienced
was
a
snapshot
two
weeks
ago
from
just
many
frustrated
people
all
the
developers
have
mentioned
they
need
time.
They
want
time
to
go
over
this
time.
To
you
know,
do
studies
this
and
that
well
time
is
no
longer
on
our
side.
Quite
frankly,
and
to
just
add
more
time
to
something
is
just
going
to
kick
the
can
down
the
road
even
further
until
more
developments
can
come
in
and
by
then
it's
just
it'll
become
too
late.
You
know
at
this
point
it's
easy
to
kick
the.
R
Can
it's
a
lot
harder
actually
in
that
solution,
so
anyway,
we
discussed
a
lot
of
things
at
the
meeting
transportation
development
in
coastal
hazard
area,
and
such
we
presented
14
different
items
to
the
city
that
we
want
to
see.
Action
on
that
will
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
everyone
in
saag
and
south
tampa
the
city
listen
and
neither
pros
bringing
forth
this
resolution
as
an
alternative
to
spend
far
for
all
single
single-use
residential
zoning
applications
city-wide
within
the
umu-60,
cmu-35
and
cc35
land
use
categories.
R
This
was
our
first
time
on
the
list
and
we're
glad
to
see
that
it's
their
chain.
In
addition,
we
agree
with
city
council
having
the
discretion
to
determine
mixed
use
because,
quite
frankly,
you
know
mixed-use
projects
create
jobs,
and
that
is
something
that
we
do
need.
You
know
people
want
to
be
able
to
get
to
work
closely
and
if,
as
one
developer,
they
want
these
projects
to
reduce
pollution.
R
Well,
you
want
to
take
cars
off
the
road
instead
of
increasing
drive,
drive
types
or
a
frequency
of
having
to
be
on
the
road
anyway.
This
is
an
alternative
resolution
to
the
proposed
moratorium,
and
I
agree
with
what
the
city
has
brought
is
going
to
bring
forward
to
you,
and
but
I
do
also
agree
that
the
moratorium,
the
original
motion
should
be
postponed
for
six
months
to
see
how
things
move
forward,
as
we
continue
to
discuss
the
various
issues.
R
I
do
want
to
thank
the
city
staff,
the
mayor's
office
chief
bennett
and
many
others
for
meeting
with
us
and
listening
their
hard
work
is
greatly
appreciated
and
we
certainly
look
forward
to
continuing
our
working
relationship
with
them.
Thank
you.
Everyone
appreciate.
L
L
We
have
been
working
on
this
for
over
18
months
now
we
assumed
it
would
turn
off
the
firehose
long
enough
for
us
to
see
the
projects
and
process
completed
prior
prior
to
you
and
approving
more.
What
do
we
want?
Stop
building
monster
apartments
in
sog,
I
didn't
say
the
city
of
tampa.
I
just
said
sog.
I
have
to
agree
with
miss
bastello
on
that
one.
L
We
believe
that
the
alternative
presentation
today
that
will
be
brought
to
the
city
by
city
staff.
The
elimination
of
car
is
the
first
step
in
the
right
direction.
We
have
presented
a
list
of
14
items
to
the
staff
last
friday
and
we,
but
we
are
reasonable
adults
and
realized.
We
won't
always
get
everything
we
ask
for,
but
if
we
ask
for
nothing,
that's
what
we'll
get
so
we
have
to
ask
tell
post
went
through
the
list.
She
noted
the
responses
to
each
item.
Not
one
was
called
ridiculous
or
unreasonable.
L
We
were
immediately
categor.
They
were
immediately
categorized
and
verbally
given
ownership
by
staff
in
one
way
or
another,
but
we'd
like
the
city
staff,
to
follow
through
on
this
list
prior
to
pushing
forward
with
the
moratorium.
We
aren't
saying,
throw
it
out.
We
are
saying:
let's
put
it
on
the
back
burner:
let's
revisit
it
in
six
months.
Let's
give
staff
a
chance
to
do
what
they
said
they
will
do
for
us.
L
We
have
the
mayor
at
the
head
of
the
table.
Let's
allow
her
to
lead
staff
to
get
these
problems
fixed,
stop
building
over
foster
apartments
in
sog.
I'm
not
talking
about
the
city
of
tampa,
because
none
of
us
who
are
speaking
here
today
as
advocates
for
sog,
have
knowledge
and
understanding
of
other
areas.
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
we've
talked
they've
talked
about
urban
villages,
cra
channel
side,
infill
areas
all
of
these
things
where
communities
have
their
own
little
designation
and
we
have
nothing
to
protect
us.
L
L
H
G
N
Yes,
mr
chair,
are
you
going
to
number
three
now
yeah?
I
just
need
to.
I
need
to
recuse
myself.
My
company
has
a
business
relationship
with
one
of
the
parties
involved
and
I
would
just
like
to
ask
you
all
to
make
a
motion
for
you
all
to
receive
and
file
my
form,
and
I
will
leave
the
room.
H
A
H
Aye
all
right
for
items
three
and
four:
we
have
substitute
ordinances
just
want
to
let
you
know.
Okay,
item
number
three.
O
Okay,
wonderful!
Thank
you.
I'm
here
for
items
three
and
four
this
morning.
Those
are
both
historic
property
tax
exemption
applications.
We
will
have
a
full
presentation
for
you
at
the
second
reading
of
the
ordinance
I'm
available.
If
you
have
questions.
Thank
you.
H
All
right
who
would
like
to
read
item
number
three
councilman,
yeah
and
remember:
this
is
the
substitute
that's
here
on
the
head
done.
You
got
it,
sir.
I
File
number
e2021-8ch27
or
presented
for
first
reading
consideration
an
ordinance
approving
an
historic
preservation,
property,
texas,
application
related
to
the
restoration
renovation
or
rehabilitation
of
certain
property
owned
by
ebola.
Mrt
llc,
located
at
1302
east
7th
avenue,
timber,
florida
and
ybor
city
historic
district,
based
upon
certain
findings
providing
for
notice
to
the
property
appraiser
of
hillsborough
county,
providing
severability,
providing
for
repeal
of
all
orders
in
conflict
providing
effective
date.
H
I
I
B
F
B
H
All
right.
The
next
item
is
item
number
four
same
thing:
we
have
a.
F
Again,
council
members
elaine
want
historic
preservation
staff.
Again
with
this
item.
We
will
have
a
presentation.
H
B
I
will
move
a
substitute
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading,
consideration
an
ordinance
approving
an
historic
preservation,
property
tax
exemption
application
relative
to
the
restoration
renovation,
rehabilitation
of
a
certain
property
owned
by
site,
bf
flats
lsc,
located
at
3108
north
jefferson
street,
tampa
florida
in
the
tampa
heights.
Historic
district
based
upon
certain
findings
providing
for
notice
of
property,
appraiser
of
hillsborough
county,
providing
for
several
ability
providing
for
repeal
of
all
ordinances
in
conflict,
providing
for
an
effective
date.
F
H
F
H
E
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
Before
I
move
those
items
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
to
our
staff,
specifically
mr
bennett,
mr
hart,
mr
baird
and
mr
chuckling
and
ms
duncan
in
regard
to
some
bbe
issues.
This
week
we
fuss
at
them
when,
when
things
aren't
going
good,
but
I
think
there's
a
couple
items
that
are
worth
mentioning
item.
17.
E
is
almost
a
half
million
dollars.
That's
100,
a
bbe
company
and
the
item.
31
is
200
000
again,
that's
a.
G
H
We
have
a
motion
from
councilman
dean,
father,
second
councilman
miranda,
roll
call
vote.
I
Your
microphone
just
want
to
make
a
little
mention.
I
was
getting
ready
earlier
to
see
brad
beer
a
little
congratulations
on
the
efforts.
That's
going
on
and
chief
bennett
also
takes
me
about
it
very
happy
that
we're
moving
in
the
right
direction
and
from
the
texas.
I
got,
there's
greater
work
on
the
horizon
for
these
issues.
So
I
vote
yes,.
R
H
H
H
Thank
you
very
much.
Next
up
is
council
member
vieira
with
item.
I
J
J
N
I
just
wanted
to
say
real
fast
back
to
23-30,
there's
some
budgeting
in
there
for
for
for
dealing
with
homeless
populations,
I've
had
meetings
with
the
chief
of
staff
and
and
just
about
every
department
head,
and
he
has
experience
with
this
in
in
pinellas
county
and
he's
trying
in
earnest.
You
know
with
the
support
of
the
mayor
and
staff
to
to
address
issues
to
help
everybody
transition
to
finding
a
place
to
live.
So
I
appreciate
their
efforts
in
doing
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
J
Yes,
sir,
I
had
a
just
a
general
inquiry
on
13
the
rough
riders
memorial
day
parade
have
the
rough
riders
ever
done
a
memorial
day
parade
councilman
citroen.
I
know
you're
very
involved.
Have
they,
sir.
B
J
I
was
going
to
say
no,
but
I
I
would
just
urge
you
we
can
work
on
this.
I
mean
because
this
isn't
anything,
that's
sunshine,
but
just
make
sure
to
be
in
touch
with
the
gold
star
families,
because
I
just
when
I
saw
that
I
I
was
interested
because
I
didn't
I'd
never
seen
that
before,
but
just
I
texted
a
few
and
they
hadn't
heard
anything
about
us
to
just
make
sure
that
our
rough
writer
friends
get
in
touch
with
the
gold
star
community.
J
B
Well,
I
will,
if
you
could,
please
get
me
the
contacts.
I
will
pass
that
on
to
our
current
president.
You
know
saint
patty's
day
parade
is
usually
the
rough
riders
parade
and
we
always
take
pride
in
that,
but
there
was
contemplating
a
a
one
parade
for
the
whole
city
of
tampa
and
I
think
it
was
going
to
be
called
the
cinco
de
mayo,
saint
patty's
fourth
of
july
gasparilla
day
parade,
and
that
was
going
to
be
something
that
we
had
considered,
but
thank
you
very
much,
councilman
vera.
Thank
you.
J
Yes,
sir,
I
mean,
because
I
mean
again
if
this
I'm
just
being
honest,
I
mean
if
this
parade
is
going
to
be
a
big.
You
know
a
happy
go
lucky
parade.
I
mean
you're
good.
The
city
is
going
to
be
hearing
from
a
lot
of
veterans
groups
and
rightfully
so,
which
I
know
it's
not
going
to
be,
but
again
just
just
my
two
cents.
H
H
H
F
Yeah,
this
is
second
reading
for
vac.
L
H
A
I
just
want
to
make
for
the
record
ryan
asks
development
coordination.
We
have
to
be
sworn
in
for
this
second,
okay,.
F
F
R
This
this
petition
was
supported
by
all
of
the
adjacent
property
owners.
We
submitted
14
pages
of
police
documents
regarding
incidences,
and
it
is
a
safety
hazard
for
the
adjacent
property
owners
and
we
respectfully
request
your
approval
I'll,
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any.
H
E
I
H
F
K
L
H
Any
questions
at
this
time,
no,
all
right!
Mr
wolfe,
do
you
have
anything,
sir.
B
Yes,
sir,
mr
chair,
final
number,
vac
20-14
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
vacating
closing
discontinuing
abandoning
a
portion
of
the
right-of-way
alleyway
located
south
of
leroy
street
north
of
dewey
street
east
of
lincoln
avenue
west
of
matanzas
avenue
within
the
platte
of
john
h,
drew's.
B
H
A
Good
morning,
chair
and
city
council
ryan
vanessa
development
coordination
item
number
34
is
file
number
rec
20-41
it's
for
the
property
located
at
2912
west
euclid
avenue.
The
request
before
you
was
to
rezone
from
zoning
classification
rs60
to
rs50.
This
is
a
euclidean
rezoning.
Therefore,
there
was
no
modifications
to
site
plan
needed
between
first
second
reading
and
staff
is
available
for
any
questions
you
may
have.
F
A
A
H
F
H
H
F
H
Very
good,
mr
manassee
go
ahead.
I
see
you.
A
Thank
you,
chair
ryan,
manassee
development
coordination.
Item
number.
35
is
file
number
red
20-49,
it's
for
rezoning,
the
property
generally
located
at
2328
west,
st
john
street.
The
request
before
you
in
first
reading
was
to
rezone
from
rs50
residential
single
family
to
rm24
residential
multifamily.
This
was
a
euclidean
rezoning.
Therefore,
no
site
plan
needed
staff
is
available
for
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
H
A
F
O
H
Thank
you
very
much.
Next
up
is
item
36
we
have
randy,
cohen
and
cami
corbett
registered.
If
you
are
on,
please
turn
your
cameras
on
and
your
unmute
yourself
will
swear
you
in.
H
H
Is
she
there
we
go
all
right.
Please
raise
your
right
hands,
we'll
swear
you
in
oh,
and
we
have
a
you
know.
F
A
Thank
you,
chair
ryan,
manassee
development
coordination.
Item
number.
36
is
file
number
rec
20-65
before
you
for
second
reading
rezoning,
the
property
generally
located
at
3815
and
3825
henderson
boulevard
and
1002
south
church
avenue
and
3816
west
morrison
avenue,
and
the
request
was
to
re-zone
from
pd
plan
development
to
pd
staff
is
available
for
any
questions
and
certified
site
plans
have
been
turned
into
the
city
clerk.
L
Good
morning,
council,
randy
cohen-
and
I
are
here.
G
L
G
H
K
H
Have
a
second
to
close
from
council
member
miranda,
second
council
member
citro,
all
in
favor
all
right
council
member
miranda.
Would
you
mind
reading
item
number
36
general,
mr.
B
B
F
B
H
H
Okay,
they're
already
open.
D
Good
morning
eric
cotton
development
coordination-
may
I
share
my
spring.
Please
no.
O
Hold
on
one.
Second,
I'm
sorry.
Excuse
me,
this
is
mario
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
mr
chair
and
members
of
city
council
on
this
item
is
before
you
on
a
petition
filed
by
michael
stika
s-I-c-a,
the
applicant
of
the
special
use
exception,
one
request
for
the
property
located
at
7711
dartmouth
avenue
they
are
seeking
review
of
the
zoning
administrator's
decision
denying
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
which
requests
relief
from
section
27-132
earlier
council
was
provided
with
a
copy
of
the
hearing
procedures
for
today's
review,
as
well
as
sample
motions
for
purposes
of
today's
hearing.
O
O
After
considering
all
the
evidence
introduced
into
the
record
of
today's
hearing,
city
council
may
uphold
the
zoning
administrator's
decision
and
thereby
deny
the
special
use,
one
application
or
council
may
overturn
the
zoning
administrative
decision
and
thereby
thereby
approve
the
application
for
the
special
use,
one
application
with
that.
I
will
turn
it
over
to
mr
cotton
for
his
presentation
and
I
am
available
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have.
C
And
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
and-
and
thank
you
very
much
but
council
just
to
follow
those
procedures-
I'd
like
to
ask
council
to
receive
and
file
any
ex
parte
written
documents
and
also
if
there
have
been
any
verbal
ex
parte
communications
to
please
disclose
them
to
the
record.
So
a
motion
to
receive
and
file.
Please.
C
F
D
Thank
you
so,
as
camari
had
indicated
originally,
this
is
a
request
for
a
zoning
administrator
appeal
for
for
z,
21-16.
D
I've
excuse
me
for
su
121-16
for
a
property
of
77
11
north
dartmouth
avenue
the
current
zoning
on
the
property
is
similar
to
residential
single
family,
and
the
proposed
special
use
was
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
The
criteria
set
forth
in
the
code
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
is
under
27-132
a
couple
of
the
requirements
it
has
to
be.
It
cannot
exceed
more
than
950
square
feet
and
it
cannot
be
in
a
in
a
structure:
that's
not
currently
conforming
or
may
conforming
as
a
result
of
a
variance
as
a
result.
D
D
So,
as
a
result,
staff
denied
the
request
because
it
didn't
mean
to
meet
the
requirements
of
the
code.
As
you
can
see,
this
is
in
several
heights,
see
hillsborough
river.
D
What's
shown
right
here,
that
I'm
highlighting
is
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
it's
greater
than
the
950
square
feet
and
there's
an
existing
shed.
That's
on
the
property,
that's
being
proposed
to
remain
on
the
site.
As
a
result,
it
exceeded
the
requirements
that
we
would
be
allowed
to
approve
through
the
code
and,
as
a
result,
we
denied
the
request.
This
is
the
propose.
This
is
just
a
floor
plan
of
the
proposed
dwelling
unit,
mr
front
view
of
the
property
from
dartmouth
side
view
of
the
property.
D
H
F
A
On
the
overhead
projector,
I'm
going
to
place
a
couple
of
images
here.
This
is
the
existing
site
plan,
as
it
sits
today
for
the
property
at
7711
north
dartmouth.
What
we
see
here
is
an
existing
driveway
that
leads
up
to
the
front
of
the
house
and
into
a
covered
area.
Then
a
second
driveway
that
leads
around
to
the
back
of
the
property
and
to
the
existing
wood
framed
structure,
which
is
currently
a
garage.
A
A
F
You
for
your
time
my
name
is
michael
sika,
I'm
the
property
owner.
I
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
know
that
I'm
you
know
married
have
a
couple
of
kids.
I
have
frequent
visits
from
parents
out
of
state.
F
It
as
a
rental,
so
you
know
I'm
at
this
point,
asking
your
permission
to
move
forward
with
our
plans
and
thank
you
again
for
your
time.
H
E
E
Sika
or
your
representative,
you,
you
did
the
the
required
mailing
to
your
to
your
neighbors,
correct,
yes,
sir,
and
did
you
hear
back
specifically
from
any
of
them.
H
B
H
What
is
the
pleasure
of
council?
We
have
the
criteria
in
front
of
us
whether
to
overturn
or
stand
by
the
decision
of
the
zoning
administrator.
O
If
I
may,
in
addressing
the,
I
just
want
to
remind
council
members
to
also
address
not
only
the
zoning
administrator's
decision
regarding
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
but
to
also
address
the
parking
requirement.
H
E
E
O
K
K
O
Kamari
pettis
mackel
again
from
the
city
attorney's
office.
Just
for
the
record
in
mr
cotton's
presentation
and
in
the
decision
letter
the
transportation
department
gave
the
requirements
of
the
that
are
required
for
this
property
and
that,
in
addition,
parking
for
the
principal
structure
and
this
accessory
structure
cannot
block
each
other.
When
parked
the
transportation
department
stated,
please
redesign
on-site
parking
to
allow
for
the
additional
parking
space.
O
So
there
has
to
be,
according
to
city
code,
section
27.211.2.2,
subsection
c,
which
I've
provided
to
counsel
a
total
of
three
spaces
on
the
long
property.
K
I
just
want
to
answer
a
few
questions
here.
I
know
the
petition
was
to
seek.
I
said
it
was
about
the
family
coming
in
to
visit
and
so
forth
and
so
on,
and
this
was
built.
The
building
was
built,
I
think
sometimes
in
the
40s.
Did
I
hear
that
all
correct
yes
right
right
and
then,
as
this
building
hasn't
been
used
used
at
all,
it's
just
been
a
building.
D
N
Two
questions:
I
want
to
ask
staff:
what's
that?
What
are
the
rules
around
the
ability
to
to
rent
the
accessory
drill
dwelling
separate
from
the
house.
D
D
N
Okay,
got
it
and
then
to
mr
thor,
so
it
the
the
attorney
said
that
there's
a
requirement
for
three
parking
spaces
does:
does
your
design
meet
that
requirement.
A
N
Mr
chair,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
overturn
the
zoning
administration
denial
of
special
use
application
su
one
two:
one:
zero:
zero:
zero,
zero,
zero
one.
Six,
because
petitioner
has
demonstrated
that
the
petition
is
consistent
with
the
optical
general
standards
set
forth
in
section
27-132
and
has
met
the
requirement
for
the
parking
spaces
and,
madam
attorney,
what
did
I
forget.
H
E
Comment
on
the
notion-
yes,
just
just
briefly
for
anybody,
who's
watching-
and
I
know
seminole
heights-
is
very
cautious
and
concerned
generally
about
these
sort
of
sort
of
issues,
and
especially
any
kind
of
waivers.
But
in
this.
H
E
This
is
an
existing
garage,
that's
being
remodeled
and
then-
and
you
know,
basically
turned
into
kind
of
a
granny
flat
of
in
this
case
for
for
family,
hopefully
for
family
use,
but
anyway
that
can
support
it.
Based
upon
the
fact
that
it's
barely,
I
think,
30
square
feet
over
or
something
like
that.
Thank
you.
H
All
right,
we
continue
on
with
the
with
the
rollout.
B
C
Mr
chairman,
with
regard
to
this
item
on
7510
north
ola,
if
council
would
then
receive
and
file
any
written
documents
pursuant
to.
O
H
O
Go
ahead,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
city
council
for
the
record,
this
is
kamaria
pettis,
mackel
assistant
city
attorney.
This
item
is
for
you
on
a
petition
filed
by
sean
and
melissa
wolf,
the
applicant
of
the
alternative
design
exception,
one
request
for
the
property
located
at
7510
north
ola
avenue.
O
They
are
seeking
review
of
the
zoning
administration
administrator's
decision,
denying
the
increase
in
height
of
the
fence
in
the
front
yard,
from
three
feet
to
six
feet,
which
requested
relief
from
section
27-60,
subsection
e-5
earlier
council
was
provided
with
a
copy
of
the
hearing
procedures
for
today's
review,
as
well
as
sample
motions
for
purposes
of
today's
hearing.
City
council
applies
a
de
novo
standard
of
review.
Your
decision
is
not
limited
to
the
record
created
by
the
zoning
administrator.
Instead,
you
can
take
public
testimony,
accept
new
evidence
and
make
a
decision
based
upon
the
application.
O
The
applicant
meeting,
the
criteria
in
section
27-60,
subsection
e5,
mr
cotton,
will
provide
an
overview
of
the
relief
requested
in
the
application
and
the
basis
for
the
city's
decision.
After
considering
all
the
evidence
introduced
into
the
record
of
today's
hearing,
city
council
may
uphold
the
zoning
administrator's
decision
and
thereby
deny
the
alternative
design
exception.
Application
or
council
may
overturn
the
zoning
administrator's
decision
and
therefore
I
approve
the
application
for
the
alternative
design
design
exception
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
mr
cotton
and
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
mr
cotton.
D
Morning,
council,
paula
delgado
kumari
was
indicating
the
e-121-39
for
the
property
of
7510
north
lowell
avenue.
The
applicant
was
melissa,
wolfe
and
they
were
requesting.
She
was
requesting
to
increase
the
height
of
the
fence
from
three
feet
to
six
feet
in
the
front
yard.
On
section
27
to
90.1
governs
fence
heights
for
a
solid
fence.
The
height
limitation
is
three
feet.
D
So
as
a
result,
if
you
re,
if
council
recalls
a
workshop
from
a
couple
of
months
ago,
staff
is
very
hesitant
to
approve
fences
in
the
front
yard.
So,
as
a
result,
following
up
on
that
staff
did
denial
request.
D
These
are
the
standards
for
the
20s.
The
27-60
is
where
the
standards
are
for
alternative
design.
D
Let
me
just
get
into
the
the
denial
goes
from
three
feet
to
six
feet
is
100
increase
in
the
height
of
the
fence.
This
is
on
the
river.
It's
a
deep
lot.
This
is
ola.
This
is
the
hillsborough
river.
F
D
L
D
D
This
is
the
current
view
of
the
property.
When
I
was
out
there
probably
about
three
or
four
weeks
ago.
This
is
the
property
in
question.
You
can
see
they
have
an
existing
fence,
but
it
is
set
back
off
the
sidewalk.
The
property
line
is
probably
about
where
these
trees
are.
It's
not
that
far
back
into
it.
D
This
is
the
existing
fence
from
both
views
from
ola.
The
property
is
over
here
where
the
large
tree
is
these
are
this?
Is
the
fence
that's
existing,
and
this
is
these:
are
the
adjacent
properties,
next
door
and
crosswell?
That's
the
that's
my
presentation:
do
you
have
any
questions
regarding
the.
I
Maybe
I
didn't
understand
that
we're
seeing
a
fence
across
the
front
to
lift
the
fence
up
higher
across
the
front
or
that
side
of
the.
D
The
front
yard
in
seminole
heights
is
measured
on
a
build
two
line,
so
it's
based
on
where
the
house
is
on
either
side
line
up.
So
the
front
yard
for
this
property
is
probably
about
through
here
anything
from
that
point
backwards.
They
could
go
six
feet,
but
at
the
property
line
they
would
limit
it.
They
would
be
limited
to
just
a
three
foot,
solid
fence
and
a
fork
that
they
were
doing
like
wrought
iron
or
something
to
that
effect
or
a
picket
fence.
H
I
see
the
two
applicants
at
the
kiosk.
Please
raise
your
right
hand
we're
going
to
swear
you
in
before
you
begin
speaking.
F
T
Good
morning,
my
name
is
sean
wolfe,
we're
here
today
to
discuss
a
matter.
This
is
my
wife
melissa.
I
am
a
small
business
owner
in
the
tampa
bay
area
in
drew
park.
Specifically,
my
wife
is
a
county
employee,
we're
here
today
to
give
you
a
little
bit
more
information.
We
feel
as
though
the
information
that
was
given
was
a
little
bit
of
skew
from
what
we
actually
were
interested
in
in
getting.
Therefore,
we
would
like
to
present
to
you
the
type
of
fence
that
fits
the
neighborhood
and
is
in
there.
T
We've
had
an
extreme
amount
of
problems
since
moving
in
in
2018
due
to
the
unique
situation
of
the
property.
The
property
is
located
approximately
222
feet
from
my
front
door
to
the
street.
We
have
provided
city
council
with
numerous
police
reports
of
anything
from
trespassing
to
people,
stealing
figs
off
of
my
fig
trees
and
and
dog
waste,
and
we've
been
in
contact
with
one
of
the
I
guess,
ryan.
He
he
does
the
enforcement.
As
far
as
you
know,
any
code
enforcement
of
issues
that
we've
haven't
so
we're
today
with
the
hardship.
T
Now
we
can't
park
our
vehicles
in
our
house.
I
don't
feel
safe
going
into
my
property
without
having
a
means
to
defend
myself.
We,
just
literally
a
few
weeks
ago,
got
rid
of
a
sex
offender.
That
was,
if
you
stand
at
the
end
of
my
property
and
look
to
your
left.
You'll
see
the
the
house
that
is
now
being
restored
from
a
previous
sex
offender,
one
of
the
worst
of
a
child
toucher.
T
If
you
look
and
do
a
small
search
of
a
mile
or
two
miles
of
which
we
we
did
of
sex
offenders
in
the
area,
you're
going
to
see
that
it's
it
just
lights
up
the
whole
screen
as
well
as
crime
seminole
heights
is
a
is
a
fantastic
area.
We
love
the
house,
we
work
extremely
hard.
We
have
great
neighbors
our
neighbors
to
the
left,
and
right
of
us
are
actually
in
favor
of
the
the
proposed
fence.
T
What
we
did
was,
unfortunately,
give
a
description
of
galvalume,
which
we
didn't
understand
were
first-time
homeowners
and
the
fence
that
we
actually
want
is
the
type
of
fence
that
our
neighbors
have.
We,
you
know,
have
gone
around
the
neighborhood
looked
at
the
other
fences
and
we
do
have
a
large
tree
in
the
front
yard
of
which
we're
interested
in
protecting
that's
one
of
the
areas
that
stabilizes
the
front
of
our
house.
T
What
was
not
noted
is
is
that
the
house,
where
it's
located
is
also
at
any
change
of
elevation,
so
we
have
a
flat
roof
house,
it's
a
very
small
house,
it's
1200
and
something
square
feet,
so
it
sets
back
very
far.
We
enjoy
that
because
we're
so
close
to
the
water,
we're
grandfathered
in
our
house
is
from
1955.
T
It
has
character
it's
what
seminole
heights
is
about,
and
that's
why
we
chose
the
area.
You
know
this
is
a
an
area
that's
up
and
coming
yeah.
It's
got
its
its
pros
and
cons,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
looked
at
it
and
said
you
know
what
this
is
a
fantastic
place
to
raise
a
family
as
it
stands
right
now,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
having
children
play
out
front,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
people
walking
in
when
they're,
not
supposed
I'm
not
comfortable
with
people
sleeping
under
my
tree.
T
T
We
did
take
the
initiative
to
contact
the
police
department
if
we
can
do
nothing
but
applaud
the
police
for
having
outstanding
customer
service
with
us,
because
we've
had
so
many
issues
and
we
wanted
to
bring
it
to
the
attention
you
know
of
the
people
and
the
surrounding
areas.
Apparently,
what
we
will
outline
in
some
of
the
people
that
oppose
the
defense
is
a
lot
of
misleading
information
which
we
feel
as,
though,
is
very
one-sided.
You
know
this
is
we're
new
to
this.
T
We
do
have
letters
from
our
neighbors
that
are
interested
and
don't
oppose
the
defense.
What
someone
did
before
was
complain
about
defense
and
it
was
actually
paid
between
myself
and
both
of
the
neighbors.
Everybody
was
in
agreements
when
we
decided
to
say
hey,
you
know
what
we've
had
enough
of
people.
You
know
coming
up
to
our
property.
We've
had
enough
people,
you
know
going,
you
know
in
our
yard,
taking
things
stealing
and
doing
all
these
things.
T
We
said
we
need
to
come
to
an
end,
we're
cat
people,
we
don't
have
a
large
dog,
we
don't
have
attack
dogs,
pit
bulls
or
whatever
you
want
to
defend
our
property
or
not.
Have
people
come
in
there
we've
gone
as
far
as
having
to
get
no
trespassing
signs.
We
have
a
ring
camera
that
that
does
nothing.
The
only
thing
that
we
do
is
catch
the
people
that
are
on
there.
I
have
you
know
words
that
make
the
people
leave
and
then
that's
it,
but
that's
still
not
stopping
the
people
from
going
there.
T
Our
neighbors
do
have
extremely
nice
houses
and
have
been
there
for
a
long
time.
They
have
these
beautiful
homes,
which
is
only
given
us.
You
know
hope
that
the
area
has
increased
and
is
getting
better
but
two
blocks
over
it's
a
very
rough
part
of
town.
I
would
you
know,
ask
any
of
the
the
the
tampa
bay
police
department
to
go
over
to
artillery
liquors
or
whatever
that
the
name
of
the
place
is,
and
it's
nothing
but
bombs
and
homeless
people,
and
you
know,
vagrants
and
things
of
that
nature.
T
You
know
our
home
was
vacant
for
a
while
before
we
bought
it.
So
this
was
an
area
where,
where
people
decided
that
hey
they
can
get
in
there,
a
neighborhood
watch
did
absolutely
nothing.
At
this
point.
We
don't
know
anything
about
a
neighborhood
watch.
We
don't
expect
anybody
in
the
neighborhood
watch
to
protect
myself,
my
wife
or
my
family.
We
will
do
whatever
it
takes
to
defend
our
family
from
you
know
anything
that
happens.
T
We
do
have
police
reports,
you
know
showing
that
and
the
police
have
been
on
our
back
and
has
said
hey,
you
know
whatever
you
guys
need
to
do
to
do
that.
We
don't
want
to
do
that.
We
would
like
a
fence
in
the
front
of
our
property
that
mimics
defense
of
the
the
neighbors,
and
that
way
we
can
have
that
that
safety,
we
don't
have
any
special
privileges.
We
don't
have
anything
our
house
is
unique.
T
Yes,
it
sits
back
extremely
far
back
if
you
are
on
your
boat
lucky
enough
to
be
there
on
the
on
the
weekend,
you
can
tell
if
I
put
butter
or
jelly
on
my
toast.
It's
close,
so
the
the
the
unique
situation
with
the
property
is
is
that
that
the
house
is
located
so
close
to
the
water,
so
our
backyard
is
our
front
yard
and
we
enjoy
our
privacy.
The
fence
that
we're
interested
in
is
a
five
foot
tall
fence.
It's
made
of
aluminum.
T
We
called
it
galvalume,
which
we
have
a
picture
and
I
did
the
internet
search.
It
may
have
been
me
telling
my
wife,
because
she
has
better
penmanship
of
what
we
want,
but
anyway,
we're
going
to
show
the
defense
that
we're
interested
in
our
neighbor,
juan
davis,
which
is
right
next
to
us.
He
actually
applied
for
the
fence
and
he
was
the
night
also,
and
I
would
like
to
note
that
the
it
kind
of
started
in
in
in
I
guess,
2019,
where
we
were
having
issues
their
house
was
still
being
constructed.
T
We
were
keeping
an
eye
since
we
were
already
occupying
our
house.
We
kept
an
eye
on
their
property
too.
These
are
the
people
we
live
next
to.
If
you
fall
off
the
ladder,
the
person
you
need
to
rely
on
is
the
person
that's
right
next
door
to
you,
not
the
police
and
the
tam
and
this,
and
that
you
need
to
rely
on
the
people.
Are
there
we
are
extremely
lucky.
Not
only
did
we
get
a
fantastic
house
and
a
fantastic
area
with
awesome
neighbors.
T
Apparently
there
are
some
neighbors
that
dislike
us
or
dislike
whatever
that
we're
doing
we
get
it.
We
don't
have
an
hoa,
so
we
do
want
to
keep
the
the
aesthetics
of
the
neighborhood.
Although
it's
inconsistent
with
the
the
findings
of
of
what
we
feel
that
came
back
to
us,
and
we
can
show
that
with
that,
our
neighbor
went
as
far
as
measuring
these
fences,
which,
whether
they're
legal
or
illegal
they're
still
there.
So
it's
it's
selective
enforcement
of
who
gets
to
keep
what
because
nobody
complained
about
it.
T
So
if
you
have
a
house-
and
you
have
a
car
and
you
have
columns
there-
you
needed
to
have
a
permit.
So
if
you
have
on
that
street,
which
there's
plenty
of
people
that
do-
and
I
don't
know
everybody-
some
people
have
protected
addresses-
I
don't
know
all
these
people.
I
just
don't
go
up.
I
mind
my
business.
I
come
home.
I
come.
T
You
know
at
two
o'clock
in
the
morning,
sometimes
at
eight
o'clock
at
night
I
have
a
small
business,
I'm
lucky
that
I
can
leave
on
lunch
and
come
check
on
my
property,
but
that's
what
I
have
to
do.
I
it
to
me.
It
is
very
disheartening
to
not
want
to
put
my
trash
out
because
people
decide
they
want
to
throw
dog
waste
in
my
trash,
throw
it
in
my
tree
on
my
tree
under
the
tree
in
the
house
continuously
walk
on
there.
I
can
smell
pea
stains
from
where
people
let
their
dogs
do
that.
T
The
reason
they're
doing
that
is
because
the
house
is
set
so
far
back,
there's
not
a
physical
barrier
to
stop
people
from
doing
that.
I'm
not
asking
for
15
feet
tall
with
constantine
wire,
I'm
asking
for
a
fence
that
is
exactly
similar
and
smaller
than
what
the
people
have
on
our
street.
So
whoever
went
out
and
looked
at
these
properties
if
they
went
down
and
looked
at
the
other
properties,
they
would
see
that
this
fits
right.
What's
on
the
street,
you
know
and,
like
I
said,
we're
having
issues
it's
continuing.
We
do
call
the
police.
T
We
do
all
the
things
necessary,
because
if
we're
having
a
problem,
that's
what
happens.
It
was
more.
Maybe
two
or
three
weeks
ago
we
had
somebody
that
was
they
were
on
meth
crack
cocaine.
I
don't
know
something
was
wrong
with
them.
The
guy
had
a
buoy
knife
strapped
to
his
leg.
My
neighbor
says:
hey,
I
got
a
problem,
there's
a
guy
in
the
tree.
You
know
at
the
airbnb
we
get
a
lot
of.
We
get
a
lot
of
people
that
are
not
there
that
lived
there.
So
we
have
three
or
four
airbnb.
T
So
we
constantly
see
an
influx
of
people,
people
we're
not
familiar
with
so
there's
no
way
to
develop
a
relationship
and
any
kind
of
you
know
security
blanket
with
the
people
that
are,
you
know
three
doors
you
know
down
because
they
have
multiple
airbnbs.
That
being
said,
my
neighbor
went
out.
He
wasn't
comfortable
approaching
this
person
directly.
He
asked
me,
you
know
we
don't
know
if
he's
sick
or
if
he's
hurt
or
what
have
you.
T
It
happens
that
this
this
guy's
just
a
crazy
guy,
that's
sitting
on
a
bench
where
people
put
out
books
where
you
can
read.
This
is
great
for
the
people
that
are
local,
but
it's
bad
for
the
people
that
are
cracked
out
on
and
and
on
medicine
or
whatever
I
don't
know.
I
don't
know
so
I
called
the
police.
I
said:
hey,
listen,
there's
some
guy
in
the
bushes.
We
don't
know
if
he's
drunk,
if
he's
on
drugs
or
what
he's
doing?
Will
you
approach?
I'm
not
approaching
anybody?
T
I
stay
on
my
property,
I'm
not
approaching
that
person
unless
it's
my
direct,
neighbor
or
they're
bleeding
or
something
is
wrong
with
them
or
if
there's
an
emergency,
then
yes,
otherwise,
we
don't
feel
comfortable
approaching
someone
because
two
blocks
away.
It's
a
very
rough
area.
It's
a
rough
area.
We
have
the
mayor
that
lives
right
in
close
proximity
to
us.
We
have
judges
and
special
majestics
that
live
on
the
street.
We
were
approached
by
the
the
neighbors.
We're
like
this
is
a
great
place.
You
know
we
love
this.
T
E
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you're
abundantly
clear
on
what
you
are
allowed,
the
and
and
and
staff
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
but
basically
on
the
portion
of
your
of
your
property
up
on
the
street.
Okay
right
at
the
property
line,
you
could,
you
could
be
allowed
a
four
foot,
slotted
fence.
E
Okay,
but
we
do
allow
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
eric,
we
do
allow
the
same
four
foot,
slatted,
all
the
way
back
to
where
your
house
starts.
From
that
point
back,
you
can
have
the
six
foot
fence
and
and
and
and
all
so
so
that
that's
the
that's
the
basic
rule
for
everybody,
we're
not
picking
we're,
not
picking
on
you.
E
We
understand,
you
know
your
neighborhood's,
probably
in
a
bit
of
transition
in
terms
of
you
know
some
some
of
these
issues
that
you've
described
absolutely,
but
but
what
you're
asking
for
at
least
the
pictures
that
show
that
it's
already
been
constructed
is
the
six
foot,
the
six
foot,
solid
pvc
fence,
all
the
way
up
to
the
street.
All.
T
T
E
T
T
It
up
yeah
yeah.
No,
somebody
did
put
it
up
we,
but
this
is
a
fence
between
my
neighbors
and
myself
that
that
we
have
there.
What
we're
proposing
is
to
put
a
fence
of
less
than
five
feet
and
behind
the
in
in
behind
the
sidewalk,
which
still
gives
everybody
the
same
exact
access.
It
still
gives
everybody
the
same
exact
view
what
it,
what
it
doesn't
do.
It
doesn't
allow
for
people
to
sleep
under
my
tree
at
three
o'clock
in
the
morning.
T
No,
we
we
don't
have
a
slided
fence
on
the
on
the
front.
That's
the
fence
that
we're
trying
to
add
is
a
slotted
fence
by
how
tall
between
four
and
five
feet
tall.
Okay,
the
code
allows
four
feet
all
right
and
that's
and
that's
what
we
were
looking
at,
because
the
other
neighbors
have
fences
that
start
with,
like
50
to
60.
Inches
of
my
neighbor
actually
went
and
measured
all
of
these
fences,
literally
the
fences
that
we
have
there.
If
you
go
down
the
street
and
we
we're
happy
to-
I
guess.
E
You
go
up
to
six
feet
on
the
sides.
Yes
to
me,
it
doesn't
provide
any
extra
security
because,
if
I'm,
if
I'm
the
guy
that
wants
to
climb
over
I'm
gonna,
take
the
route
of
least
resistance,
absolutely
which
is
either
the
four
feet
or
maybe
even
the
the
five
feet.
If
you
get
a
variance
from
us
or
yeah,
that's
that's
on
the
five
feet,
but
but
to
me
it
I
don't
see
the
justification
of
that
solid
six
foot
fence
on
either
side.
E
T
Well,
you
know
and
here's
the
thing
we
we
are
asking
for
variance
that
would
increase
the
height
from
the
four
feet
to
the
five
feet
of
slatted.
We've
made
the
mistake
of
calling
the
type
of
fence
we
want
galvalume,
because
we
assume
that
the
type
of
aluminum
it's
a
fake
wrought
iron
just
made
of
aluminum.
That's
what
we're
interested
in
putting
right
behind
the
sidewalk
that
would
stop
95
or
maybe
even
more
of
the
the
issues
that
we're
having
in
there
we're
not
asking
for
anything
special
we're
not
asking
for
any
privileges.
E
T
Well,
I
don't
the
the
only
reason
I
wouldn't
want
to
do.
That
is
because
it
provides
the
way
my
house
is
situated
and
the
neighbor's
house
is
situated.
My
front
yard
is
the
backyard.
So
literally,
when
my
neighbors
are
there.
If
the
fence
were
open,
they
have
no
privacy
in
their
backyard.
So
it's
just
one
of
those
things.
Additionally,
the
expense
that
we
incurred
to
do.
This
is
extremely
expensive,
we're
already
at
a
at
a
loss,
because
we
need
to
put
a
gate.
T
We
originally
didn't
want
to
put
a
gate
or
put
a
fence,
because
it's
extremely
expensive.
We
have
other
things
at
the
property
that
we're
interested
in
in
doing
before
that
you
know,
and
that
that
was
the
thing,
that's
why
we
have
letters
from
the
the
neighbors
that
are
they're,
also
interested
in
the.
H
F
I
would
like
to
note
that
the
proposed
and
existing
six
foot
fence,
as
shown
in
the
excel
portal,
is
approved
and
found
consistent.
This
is
a
letter
that
we
received
from
eric
cotton
directly
on
january
11th
2021.
F
E
D
Yes,
sir,
eric
cotton
development
coordination
we
had
requested,
there
were
two
requests
in
the
in
the
design
exception.
One
was
for
the
six
foot
fence
along
the
sides,
technically
it's
in
the
front
yard,
but
it
was
along
the
side,
property
lines.
I
D
Okay,
so
this
is
the
site
plan
you
all
can
see
it
what's
in
pink
is
approved,
that's
somewhere
back.
Here
is
the
front
yard.
They
increase
the
existing
fence
height
to
six
feet
that
was
approved.
So
let
me
go
to,
as
you
can
see
this.
This
is
this
was
approved
as
part
of
the
design
exception.
They
did
have
letters
of
support
from
their
neighbors
on
either
side
that
was
approved.
What
has
not
what
was
denied
would
have
been
a
fence
across
the
front
of
the
property.
This
way
all.
T
B
I'm
mr
chair,
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
if
the
applicant
is
finished
with
their
presentation,
if
we
would
listen
to
theirs,
we
might
have
gotten
our
answers.
B
T
We
wanted
to
kind
of
show
what
the
type
of
fence
that
we
were
interested
in
putting
we
did
a
a
search
for
goblin
fence
panels.
This
is
what
came
up.
This
is
what
we
were
interested
in
doing
so
when
we
gave
a
description.
I
think
people
thought
that
you
know
this
style
of
fence.
That
goes
completely
across
the
front
which
would
block
people's
views.
Wouldn't
do
that?
That's
not
what
we're
interested
we're
interested
in
this
type
of
offense.
We
have
letters
from
opposition
as
well
as
out
of
the
35.
I
think
we
sent
out.
T
We
have
five
or
six
people
that
were
opposed
to
it,
and
we
feel
as
though
that
may
have
been
part
of
the
issue
that
they
were
posed,
because
they
were
thinking
that
it
was
going
to
be
six
foot
high
across
the
front.
This
one
is
five
feet
tall,
which
fits
in
with
what
the
the
neighbors
have.
T
We
have
measurements
from
juan
davis
that
we
enter
into
evidence
as
well,
and
we
also
have
just
a
whole
bunch
of
one
in
particular
letter
from
lynne,
canilla,
which
I
guess
she
I'm
not
sure
who
she
is.
But
she
said
that
our
structure
was
unoccupied.
That
was
false.
T
She
gave
an
idea
of
the,
and
these
are
reasons
criminal
activity
in
the
neighborhood.
She
gave
a
buffer
zone
of
a
quarter
mile,
and
this
doesn't
include
the
airbnb.
It
doesn't
include
the
quarter
mile
from
her
house
there's
four
sex
offenders
that
are
directly
right
in
our
neighborhood,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
they're
getting
with
this
that
the
crime
log
was
submitted
from
2019
is
remote.
It's
it's
not
remote,
because
what
we're
showing
is
that
this
is
a
continuing
issue.
T
We
have
a
neighborhood
watch
programs.
They
literally
have
done
nothing.
I
have
paid
pictures
of
the
woman
that
was
trespassing
and
that
approached
my
neighbor
and
if
it
wasn't
for
me
with
the
help
of
my
neighbor
and
the
tampa
bay
police
department,
this
woman
would
still
be
at
large.
We
have
that
paperwork.
We
sent
it
in
for
you
guys
to
to
review,
and
you
can
see
this
is
the
type
of
people
that
we're
having
come
up
to
our
house.
So
this
is
a
security
reason.
We
have
existing
camera
and
signage.
T
We
have
pictures
of
the
people,
trespassing
on
our
property
and
the
camera
does
nothing
other
than
take
their
photo
and
great.
So
it
does
nothing
a
woman's
up
there.
Stealing
my
rocks
or
stealing
fruits.
It
doesn't
it's
okay!
We,
you
know.
What
are
we
supposed
to
do?
It's
you
know
it's!
It's
disheartening.
T
You
know
the
the
six
foot
fence
on
on
the
front
of
the
on
the
sides
of
the
the
property.
What
people
don't
know
is
is
that
on
the
back
side
of
our
property
is
the
river
we
literally
have
no
way
to
retreat
and
it's
not
our
duty
to
retreat
our
property,
but
if
we
needed
to
run
out
of
our
house,
the
only
way
we
could
go
is
our
backyard
and
stare
at
the
people
that
are
coming
in
the
front
yard.
T
I
don't
want
to
come
home
to
have
somebody
between
me
and
my
house
or
me
and
my
family.
This
is
once
again
it's
a
security
issue,
we're
a
riverfront
community.
This
is
what
she
said.
This
is
one
of
the
only
true
statements.
That's
in
there
you
know
houses
are
in
the
450
at
the
low
end
to
1
million
dollars.
Okay,
that's
fantastic!
This
is
a
great
area.
We
love
it,
but
there's
still
issues
that
are
here.
T
They
have
garden
tours.
I
have
nicer
plants
than
people
that
are
on
the
garden
tour,
so
I
don't.
I
don't
know
where,
where
that
stands
or
what
this
is.
This
is
supposed
to
be
about
a
fence.
We
have,
you
know,
issues
directly
relating
to
crimes
that
are
in
the
neighborhood,
and
this
person
apparently
has
taken
a
a
liking
to
us
and
said
that
you
know
that
there's
no
crime
there,
we
literally
have
the
crime
reports
that
are
there.
T
Did
she
not
know
that
there's
a
sex
offender
right
down
the
street
from
from
her,
while
this
crazy
person
was
walking
in
front
of
our
property,
they
went
to
one
of
the
properties
of
a
protected
address
and
was
knocking
on
the
door.
I
was
the
person
that
went
over
there
and
chased
this
lady
and
got
this
lady
arrested.
This
is
the
type
of
person
that
I
am
I
mean,
and
we
just
we
don't
know
what
to
do.
We're
in
a
hardship
we're
just
asking
for
help.
T
I
T
I
T
This
is
one
of
the
defenses
that
was
permitted
with
the
with
the
columns
to
my
knowledge
and
what
was
sent
there,
that
the
people
that
are
on
our
street,
that,
if
you
put
a
column
in
you,
have
to
get
building
permits.
There
were
no
permits
with
these
fences,
and
some
of
these
are
legal,
but
they
are
still
standing
and.
T
T
This
this
picture
that's
at
7
500..
She
has.
E
K
I
think
we're
going
into
an
area
here,
that's
very
risky.
I
appreciate
the
petitioners
time
by
the
way
we
live
in
the
city
of
tampa,
not
the
city
of
tampa
bay.
That's
right!
Number
one
number
two:
is
that
all
these
signs
that
he's
showing
about
illegal
fences?
That's
for
the
code
enforcement
to
make
adjustments
make
sure
that
they're
all
within
conformity.
K
K
I
I
just
said
that
I
understand
the
petitioners
fight
to
present
his
case
and
if
there
are
illegal
fences
up,
that's
up
to
court
enforcement
and
the
administration
to
go
out
and
cite
them.
This
is
not
part
of
his
humor.
T
Well,
we
we
just
wanted
to
show
you
too,
the
the
person
that
was
extremely
opposed
to
it.
They
have
a
fence
that
is
not
within
the
legal
height
of
seminal
height.
F
T
H
K
Yes,
sir,
I've
also
said
that
this
council
has
heard
me
say
that
even
the
completely
blocked
fence
around
a
house
is
very
dangerous
to
have
for
the
owner
and
for
whoever
may
jump
up,
because
once
you
have
a
fence
that
has
openings
that
you
can
see
through.
You
can
see
if
somebody's
in
your
backyard,
when
you're
driving
in,
if
you're,
not
you're,
just
risking
your
life
in
your
hands,
because
you
can't
see.
T
H
H
E
Just
I
don't
know
where
we
want
to
go
with
this,
maybe
maybe
possibly
a
continuance.
What
concerns
me
is-
and
I
appreciate
the
the
these
folks
going
out
and
taking
pictures.
Okay.
What
concerns
me
is
we're
not
seeing
every
address.
I
mean
the
the
young
lady
we
appreciate.
You
said
this
address
this
address,
it's
clear,
it's
clear
that
we're
not
seeing
every
neighbor
we're
not
seeing
every
house
up
and
down
the
street.
There
are
probably
a
few
that
might
not
have
any
fences.
E
There
might
be
a
few
that
have
a
three
foot
fence
or
a
four
foot
fence,
along
with
the
six
foot
fences
that
you
showed
us.
It's
not
your
responsibility
to
do
that
next
time.
I
would
urge
staff
to
make
sure
that
you
know
staff
goes
along
and
takes
all
those
pictures.
So
we
have
a
complete
record
in
terms
of
how
to
make
our
decision.
T
And
also,
if
I,
if
I
may
add
the
person
that
was
in
great
opposition
to
the
fence,
because
we
may
have
given
information
of
the
fence
being
completely
opaque,
we
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
we
are
interested
in
the
same
style
fence
and
she
actually
attached
the
style
of
offense
that
she
would
be
okay
with,
which
is
right
here.
T
She
attached
multiple
ones,
and
she
said
that
we
want
this
in
the
neighborhood
and
she
actually
attached
these,
and
we
have
absolutely
no
problem
with
doing
a
fence
like
that,
the
exact
ones
that
she
was
okay
with
and
those
range
in
heights,
from
55
inches
to
65
inches.
We
are
more
than
happy
to
do
any
of
these
style
ones
that
are
right
on
the
corner,
and
that
was
that
was
it.
T
I
I
think
that
some
of
these
neighbors
thought
that
we
were
putting
up
some
type
of
barricade
or
some
kind
of
fallout,
shelter
or
something
like
that
we
want
to
conform.
We
don't
have
an
hoa.
We
want
to
have
everything
the
same
and
ultimately
we'd
like
to
have
the
security.
I'm
sorry,
I
talk
a
lot,
we're
very
passionate.
This
is
a
big
deal
for
us.
This
is
our
first
house.
We
put
a
lot
of
sweat
equity
into
it.
We
work
extremely
hard,
we're
taking
off
the
day
to
be
here.
We're
super
thankful
for
you
guys.
T
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
information,
but
this
is
how
you
know
this
is
how
desperate
we
are.
We
we
need
the
help
we
we're
just
asking
for
you
guys
to
do
whatever
you
can
for
us
and
and
help
us
out
with
this.
We
we
don't
want
a
situation.
We
we
want
to
be
there,
we're
not
moving
we're,
not
leaving
I'm
going
to
die
on
that
property.
So
this
this
is
something
for
us
to
to
work
out
and
do
you
know
we
could
have
easily
just
met
that
neighbor.
H
H
C
Yes,
before
you
do
that,
mr
goose,
I
do
have
when
you
do
make
the
motion,
if
you
could
be
specific
as
to
what
it
is
that
it's
not
in
the
record
today
that
this
council
determines
needs
to
be
in
the
record
in
order
to
make
the
decision-
and
I
just
asked
that
you
had
that
you
stayed
a
basis
for
the
purpose
of
the
continuance,
so
that
everybody
is
clear.
I
Thank
you
show
me,
I
think,
make
a
motion
that
staff
go
out
to
that
particular
area
view
the
street
the
properties.
So
we
can
make
a
sound-based
decision
on
what's
going
on
in
that
street
and
if
there's
compliance,
non-compliance
or
this
property
can
meet
the
criteria
of
that
street
of
that
area.
H
E
Question
on
the
motion:
councilman
goods-
I'm
sorry
the
so
the
intent
of
the
motion
is
that
staff
will
go
out
there
on
a
maybe
a
block
or
two
on
either
side
of
this
house.
Take
take
photographs,
bring
back
comprehensive,
all
the
photographs
and
also
to
do
some
research,
in
terms
of
which
of
those
fences
are
legal
or
illegal.
Is
that
part
of
part
of
it
or.
I
Yes,
that's
the
motion
and
again,
if
you
know
those
are
grandfathered
in
houses
and
so
forth,
and
so
on,
they
may
be
grandfathered.
We
don't
know
so
I
like
to
find
out
the
the
total
situation
to
bring
by
confident
evidence
to
this
body.
A
second.
H
I
You
know
in
reference
to
giving
us
an
idea
what's
going
on
in
the
street,
I
I
mean
I
can't
use
those
photos
that
the
petition
has
given
us
concrete
evidence,
but
I'm
looking
at
along
that
street,
several
fencing
that
that
are
in
front
front
yard.
That's
why
aspen
again,
we
were
talking
about
this
sunset
I
was
asking
was
that
in
the
front
of
the
yard,
inside
the
yard,
and
now
we
finally
found
out
it's
for
the
front
of
the
actual
yard.
N
O
D
D
The
fact
that
a
property,
four
doors
down
might
have
a
fence
in
the
front
yard
again,
not
knowing
if
it
was
legal
or
illegal
and
when
it
was
put
up
because
I
won't
be
able
to
in
most
cases,
I
won't
be
able
to
tell
you
when
it
was
created
or
when
it
was
erected.
We
don't
take
that
into
consideration
specifically
to
the
property
in
question.
E
You
I'd
like
to
point
out
in
27-60
e5
e,
which
is
on
the
document
that
was
provided
to
us
and
out
of
our
city
code
and
part
of
the
criteria
says.
The
approval
of
the
exception
of
standards
includes
conditions
of
approval
as
necessary
to
ensure
that
the
adjustment
granted
does
not
constitute
a
grant
of
special
privileges,
inconsistent
with
the
limitations
upon
other
properties
in
the
vicinity
and
within
the
same
zoning
district.
So
to
me
that
subparagraph
e
specifically
invites
us
to
look
at
the
other
properties
within
the
vicinity
in
the
same
zoning
district.
E
I
don't.
I
don't
know
how
we
could
look
at
this
in
a
vacuum,
but
anyway
I
don't
want
to
get
into
a
big
legal
battle,
but
that
that's
what
it
appears
to
me.
H
Tell
me,
sir,
I
have
the
calendar
here,
would
you
like,
may
6
regular
council
meeting
or
we
have
may.
R
D
I
F
H
H
B
H
B
H
T
I'm
I'm
okay.
With
that,
I
have.
I
have
a
bunch
more
evidence
that
I'd
like
to
give
of
other
properties
that
are
similar
that
are
close,
that
are
in
the
same
type
of
price
range.
We
have
additional
police
reports,
we
have
sexual
predator
reports,
we
have
police
reports,
we
have
pictures
that
were
that
were
also
added.
I
mean
we
came
prepared.
I
I
unfortunately
I
talk
a
lot.
T
We
have
a
lot
of
information,
so
if
you
guys
need
that
time
to
to
look
at
it,
you
know
we
would
love
to
send
that
additional
information
for
you
guys
to
have
a
very
well
balanced
idea
of
what's
going
on
and
what
fits
aesthetically
in
the
neighborhood
and
not
to
allow
any
special
privilege
that
the
variants
that
we're
looking
for,
we
feel
as
though,
is
minimal
and
wouldn't
be
a
special
privilege.
We
just
want
what
everybody
else
has
on
the
street
and
that
would
that
would
help
us
at
that
point.