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F
During
a
recent
city
council
meeting,
we
discussed
the
possibility
of
processing
the
plan
amendment
under
the
pending
ordinance
doctrine
for
those
council
members
that
may
not
be
familiar
with
the
doctrine.
It
holds
that
an
application
for
building
permit
or
development
order,
such
as
the
rezoning
application
on
or
after
the
date
when
a
local
government
has
publicly
declared
its
intent
to
change
its
zoning
scheme
to
be
denied
or
held
until
after
the
enactment
of
the
new
zoning
ordinance.
F
Although
the
second
district
court
of
appeal,
where
the
city
of
tampa
sits,
has
adopted
the
pending
ordinance
doctrine,
it
has
not
addressed
the
specific
issue
of
whether
the
doctrine
applies
to
plan
amendments.
Accordingly.
If
city
council
wishes
to
suspend
rezoning
applications
during
the
period
of
time,
the
plan
amendment
is
being
processed.
F
It
is
our
recommendation
that
city
council
adopt
the
proposed
interim
development
control
ordinance.
We
are
recommending
this
approach
in
an
abundance
of
caution,
given
the
different
decisions
between
the
fourth
dca
and
the
second
dca,
as
well
as
the
number
of
inquiries
we've
been
receiving
from
the
public
and
the
land
development
community.
F
If
the
ordinance
is
approved,
it
will
be
effective
june
1st
and
remain
in
effect
for
270
days,
which
is
the
equivalent
of
nine
months.
This
period
of
time
includes
the
anticipated
adoption
hearing
in
january
of
2022
and
the
statutory
31
days
before
the
plan.
Amendment
would
become
effective
after
approval
by
city
council.
F
D
E
Yes,
sir,
miss
wells.
I
really
appreciate
everything
you
said,
and
I
I'm
asking
if
you
can
please
present
that
with
words
that
the
individual,
like
myself,
can
understand.
I
understood
what
you
said,
but
when
you
said
from
the
district
court
to
that
court
to
this
court
to
the
other,
I
just
want
you
to
explain
what
it
means
you
can
do
something
you
can't
do
something.
How
can
you
do
it?
Can
you
still
do
something
when
it's
still,
in
effect,.
F
Absolutely
councilman
miranda.
Thank
you.
The
pending
ordinance
doctrine,
which
has
been
discussed
by
city
council
during
a
few
meetings
now,
would
allow
city
council
to
or
the
city
to
hold
applications
for
rezonings.
F
E
So
that
means
then,
and
then
the
total
geographical
area
of
the
city
land
wide
that
under
that
any
project,
that's
umu,
60
or
cmu,
35
or
cc35
land
use
in
that
categories,
including
single-family
units.
You
would
not
have
any
any
far
so
forth
involved
in
it.
F
If,
if
approved,
we
would
suspend
the
processing
of
rezoning
applications
for
those
single
use
projects
that
rely
on
far
for
development
within
those
future
land
use
categories,
it
would
not
prohibit,
however,
developers
or
property
owners
from
moving
forward
with
that
same
type
of
rezoning
application
based
on
density
so
like
in
cmu
35,
they
would
be
allowed
up
to
permitted
up
to
30
units
to
the
acre
in
umu
60.
I
believe
it's
up
to
50
units
to
the
acre,
so
they
could
still
process
those
applications
based
on
density,
just
not
if
they
are.
E
G
That
was
kind
of
my
question,
mr
brandon.
Thank
you
for
that.
Always
the
legend
comes
through
with
us
again,
because
I'm
kind
of
confused
with
the
what
the
developers
are
saying
about.
No
one
knew
about
this.
Transpiring
we've
been
talking
about
it
and
the
citizens
have
been
telling
us
for
a
while.
So
to
me,
it's
disingenuous
for
the
the
developed
community
say
they
knew
nothing
about
this.
We
we
just
did
this
out
of
short
notice.
G
I
think
that's
unfair
to
the
citizens
and-
and
I
I
don't
think,
that's
right
because
we've
been
talking
about
this-
I
guess
my
issue
is
this:
the
the
plan
amendment
process.
F
As
I
explained,
the
amendment
was
filed
this
week
and
will
be
included
in
the
may
cycle.
That
would
the
amendment
would
then
be
scheduled
for
briefing
before
the
planning
commission
in
july
and
then
for
public
hearing
in
august.
It
would
then
come
to
the
city
in
september
for
transmittal
to
the
department
of
economic
opportunity,
and
we
would
anticipate
based
on
that
timeline
that
we
could
schedule
the
adoption
public
hearing
before
city
council
on
january
27th
of
2022.
G
G
All
right
so,
basically
you're
nine
months
that
you're
saying
that
you,
if
we
went
with
this
resolution,
ordinance
today,
you're
getting
that
great
spirit
of
that
nine-month
period.
That
would
follow
up
with
the
actual
planning
commission
adoption
for
doctors,
correct.
F
Correct
the
plan
amendment
process
has
been
initiated
and
if,
if
it
is
council's
decision
to
suspend
the
processing
of
applications
during
that
period
of
time,
you
would
want
to
move
forward
with
the
ordinance
that
that
we
have
filed
for
your
consideration.
Alternatively,
you
don't
have
to
move
forward
with
that
ordinance
and
just
allow
the
planning
process
to
continue.
D
G
F
G
That's
what
the
real
problem
is,
then
we
still
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
options
on
the
table.
To
try
to
get
to
the
same
end
result
be
honest
with
you
still
the
same
period
of
time,
so
I
don't
understand
what
the
in
my
mind
then.
What's
usually
saying
you
still
can
move
forward.
You
know
if
we
don't
move
forward.
G
D
H
Well,
mr
chairman,
procedurally,
that's
true,
but
legally,
I
think
without
the
ordinance,
we're
not
putting
people
on
we're,
not
putting
those
developers
on
notice,
and
they
could
continue
to
use
the
next
nine
months
to
process
everything
the
way
they've
been
doing.
So,
if
we're
serious
about
doing
anything
at
all,
I
think
the
ordinance
is
is
important,
but
I
do
agree.
I
don't
know
who
said
it,
but
I
do
agree
that
the
I
think
councilman
good
state.
H
You
know
that
the
developers
objections
to
me
sounds
like
the
wizard
of
oz,
lions
and
tigers,
and
bears
oh,
my
okay,
it's
this
is
not
that
big
a
deal.
This
is
not
an
absolute
moratorium
by
any
means.
You
know.
If
you
have
us
and
kate
explained
it
very
well,
if
you
have
a
cmu,
35
land
use
category,
those
developers
can
still
come
in.
H
All
we're
saying
is:
is
don't
come
in
with
that
far
calculation
that
often
takes
them
up
to
what
is
atmospheric
like
40
or
50
units
per
acre
on
occasion,
and-
and
I
don't
think,
that's
unreasonable,
you
know
all
every
single
one
of
us
is
getting
barraged
with
emails
and
correspondence
and
phone
calls
from
people
all
over
the
city
saying
you
know
we,
we
don't
have
a
handle
on
traffic
on
evacuation
on
on
flooding,
etcetera,
etcetera
and
we
are
granting-
or
at
least
considering
these
rezoning
applications
at
a
very,
very,
very
high
density,
and
that
we
should
need
to
slow
it
down
a
little
bit
until
some
of
these
studies
are
done,
especially
these
flooding
studies
that
that
are
going
to
have
to
be
happening
in
in
south
agandi.
H
So
you
know
I,
I
don't
think
it's
it's
it's
not
a
horrific.
You
know,
infringement
upon
property
rights
or
anything
else.
If
it
was
legal
counsel,
would
tell
us,
and
they
would
warn
us
that
this
could
be
a
risky.
H
You
know
a
risky
proposition
and-
and
I
don't
think
that
we've
heard
that
I
think
it's
a
very
conservative
response
to
a
very
serious
problem-
that's
been
stated
by
many
many
many
neighborhoods,
but
I
did
have
one
question
for
miss
feely
and
I
think
we
talked
about
this
offline
last
week
is
this
far
has
not
been
around
forever.
Has
it
this?
I
think
this
far
calculation
was
something
that
didn't
we
didn't.
We
talk
about
this
as
something
that
came
up
in
the
last
10
years
or
15
years,
or
something
like
that.
E
I
H
I
H
I
Well,
the
bonus
went
from
being
three
of
seven
to
three
of
ten
and
then
to
an
actual
dollar
figure
for
bonus,
but
through
our
research,
none
of
the
projects,
south
of
gandhi
have
actually
executed.
Bonus.
They've
been
achieving
density
above
that
which
was
planned
through
the
utilization
of
the
f.a.r.
H
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
I
appreciate
that
you
know,
like
I
say,
mr
chairman,
I
don't.
I
don't
think
this
is
that
big
a
deal,
but
I
do
think
that,
if
we're
going
to
do
anything,
we
need
to
do
the
ordinance
and
do
them
hand
in
hand.
So
at
least
the
message
gets
out
to
the
development
community
that
we're
serious
about
some
of
this.
Otherwise,
we've
wasted
a
lot
of
time.
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
a
couple,
quick
questions.
If
I
made
that
I
was
writing
down
and
I'll,
you
know
I'll
give
my
thoughts
on
it
in
a
bit
with
plant
amendments
have
has
the
city
tried
to
do
this?
Were
we
and
I
may
be
using
the
incorrect
legal
terminology,
but
we're
starting
a
plan
amendment
process,
and
then
we
seek
to
implement
the
effects
of
that
plan
amendment
prior
have
have
we
done
this
to
the?
A
Maybe
I
wasn't
paying
attention,
but
I
don't
think
we've
done
it
since
I've
been
here
in
any
recent
time,
as
the
city
sought
to
do
this.
F
I
can
address
that
from
the
period
of
time
when,
when
I
was
here
between
2001
and
2006
and
and
was
responsible
for
processing
plan
amendments,
I
don't
recall
that
an
interim
control
ordinance
was
adopted
during
the
period
of
time
of
that
processing,
and
this
is,
since
I've
been
back
a
little
over
18
months.
This,
of
course,
is
by
this
council
the
first
time
we've
we've
discussed
it.
I
don't
know
if
abby,
if
you
recall
in
the
interim,
if
that's
been
utilized.
I
We,
when
we
were
looking
at
the
accident
incident
potential
zone
with
mcdill
and
the
density
limitation
down
in
that
area,
they
attempted
to
do
that.
It
didn't
pass.
We
have
used
it.
Obviously,
when
we
do
pending
ordinance
for
text.
Amendments
is
more
what
I
believe
this
council
is
familiar
with.
When
we
have
used
this
mechanism
text
amendment
would
come
before
you
and
in
from
the
period
of
time
we
would.
That
would
then
be
the
pending
ordinance.
So
more
so
in
the
land
development
regulation
standpoint
than
in
the
comprehensive
plan
standpoint.
A
Okay,
thank
you
and-
and
maybe
I
misheard-
I
remember
who
said
this
this-
this
density
bonus
provision
that
we're
looking
at
at
scaling
back,
I
mean
so
so
last
time
we
we
started
to
push
forward
the
text
amendment
on
this,
as
I
recall
I
guess
two
weeks
ago,
did
I
hear
correctly
that
no
one's
taken
advantage
of
this
south
of
gandhi,
or
did
I
mishear
that
I
don't
want
to
make
a
misstatement.
I
I
F
And
councilman
vera
may
respond
and
supplement
my
response
with
regard
to
the
use
of
this
type
of
ordinance.
While
a
plan
amendment
is
being
processed,
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that,
while
the
pending
ordinance
doctrine
has
been
utilized
when
we're
amending
chapter
27
of
the
code
implementing
a
plan
amendment
through
a
moratorium
before
it's
formally
adopted,
has
not
been
utilized
by
the
city
historically,.
D
Anybody
else
all
right
hearing,
none.
What
is
the
is
there
anything
else,
miss
wells.
F
F
Well,
the
plan
amendment
has
already
been
filed
with
the
planning
commission.
So
the
only
issue
before
you
is
whether
or
not
council
wants
to
move
forward
with
the
interim
development
control
ordinance.
If
you
do,
we
would
need
a
motion
today
to
place
it
on
first
reading,
during
your
regular
meeting
on
may
6.
D
D
We
have
a
second
from
council
member
goods.
Yes,
sir
councilman
vieira.
A
I
I
just
wanted
to
give
my
thoughts
briefly
on
this,
if
I
may,
because
just
for
the
sake
of
the
public
watching
this,
I
guess
it
was
and
correct
me
from
wrong
two
weeks.
A
I
think
it
was
two
weeks
ago
we
voted
seven
to
zero
on
proceeding
with
the
plan
amendment
before
the
planning
commission
to
get
this
thing
started,
you
know
I've
always
taken
the
position
that,
when
it
comes
to
the
the
many
many
demonstrated
challenges
that
we
have
south
of
gandhi,
as
well
as
throughout
many
parts
of
the
city
of
tampa
that
are
experiencing
growth
and
and
and
whatnot
that
includes
parts
of
north
camp
and
utamp,
etc.
A
You
know
that
there's
a
number
of
things
that
we
can
do
to
address
that
one
thing
I've
always
cited,
including
with
a
meeting
with
our
friends
in
the
in
the
south
of
gandhi,
neighborhoods
a
couple
weeks
ago,
is
the
plan
amendment
process,
which
I
supported
a
couple
of
weeks
ago,
as
well.
As
I
always
say
a
couple
of
other
things
that
that
I
wish
we
would.
You
know
talk
about
concurrent
in
this
conversation
that,
I
think,
are
you
know
our
friend,
councilman
goodes
always
says.
A
Don't
tell
me
what
you
can't
do
tell
me
what
you
can
do.
You
know
we're
doing
something
today
that
maybe
we
can
do.
I
don't
whether
we
should
or
shouldn't
that'll
be
up
to
this
council,
but
there
are
things
that
we
can
do
to
address
the
real
challenges
that
are
south
of
gandhi
that
require
just
just
as
this
does
by
the
way,
a
level
of
courage.
A
What
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
and
whatnot
in
terms
of
coming
out
with
something
that
includes
infrastructure
improvements
that
are
obviously
they
cost
money.
That's
in
the
the
budget
process-
and
you
know
you
take
a
look
at
a
lot
of
the
challenges
and
growing
areas
like
south
of
gandhi,
as
well
as
new
tampa
and
other
areas.
That's
infrastructure
infrastructure
is
a
big
deal.
We're
talking
about
that
with
you
know,
roads
talking
about
things
like
storm
water,
talking
about
public
safety,
etc.
A
Another
big
one,
which
is
obvious
one
is
transportation
investments
you
know
in
2018.
I
was
proud
to
endorse
the
all
for
transportation.
Penny
sales
tax-
I
supported
putting
it
back
on
the
ballot
in
2020
as
a
replacement
safety,
net
sales
tax
and
I'll
support
it
in
2022,
when
god
willing.
It's
it's
before
us
again,
given
those
challenges,
not
an
easy
decision,
but
you
know
something
that
that
we
certainly
all
should
do
whenever
it
comes
to
challenges
of
growth,
we're
talking
about
roads,
we're
talking
about
mass
transit
and
infrastructure,
etc.
A
I
think
those
are
really
good
ways
to
do
this.
You
know
putting
forth
a
plan
amendment
and
then
putting
forth
something
that-
and
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
people's
mouths,
but
something
that
isn't
often
done
with
immediate
implementation
of
it.
You
know
sort
of
betrays
a
deliberative
process
that
I
think
we
have
to
have
with
something
like
this.
I
think
that
we
all
ultimately
support
the
plan
amendment,
but
I
think
we
ought
to
have
more
scrutiny
on
immediate
implementation
of
it.
There
ought
to
be
more
scrutiny.
A
There
ought
to
be
more
deliberation
on
that
issue
and
a
lot
of
folks
say:
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
year
and
a
half
we
have
but
south
of
gandhi,
and
I
want
to
remind
people.
This
is
something
and
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
that's
going
to
be
city-wide
because
of
legal
requirements
because
of
legal
requirements,
I
think
about
ut,
I
think
about
areas
that
usf
etc.
Has
outreach
been
done
we're
implementing
this?
A
You
know,
I
just
think
a
little
bit
more
deliberation
is
something
that
is
reasonable
under
the
circumstances
and-
and
I
think
that's
certainly
something-
that's
that's
worth
saying
so
just
my
thoughts
on
it.
If
I
may.
G
Miss
wells,
how
have
we
done
that?
Have
we
done
the
outreach?
If
this
is
going
to
be
a
city-wide?
I
know
the
e-board
folks
and
some
other
areas
are
talking
about
it
and
I
know
in
some
of
my
areas.
Density
could
be
utilized
because
we
need
some
housing
to
go
on
and
so
forth.
So
has
this
been
discussed
with
other
communities
or
we've
just
been
concentrating
on
the
south?
Again
folks,
and
that's
the
first
thing
I
have.
F
The
plan
amendment
that
you
directed
us
to
file
with
the
planning
commission
two
weeks
ago
would
be
city-wide
okay,
it
would
be
in
the
umu-60
cc-35
and
cmu
35
land
use
categories
throughout
the
city.
So
this
ordinance,
that
is
before
you
tracks
that
exact
same
language,
so
it
would
be
city-wide
within
those
future
land
use
categories.
G
G
Well,
what
mr
chairman,
where
I
look
at
this
and
I'm
glad
miss
philly
kind
of
explained,
the
fr
and
the
density
and
what's
what
I
call
a
special
play
where
you
you
you're
allowed
to
do
something,
but
should
you
be
doing
it?
It's
kind
of
like
I
used
to
have
a
football
play
gentleman
that
the
quarterback
wouldn't
go
under
center
he'd
come
up
and
one
of
the
players
come
over
and
tap
him
on
the
shoulder
and
say
hey.
G
I
need
you
to
change
the
ball
and
look
at
the
official
and
the
center
will
take
one
full
motion:
hand:
the
ball
to
the
quarterback.
He
run
he
jogged
to
the
side.
Like
he's
bringing
me
the
ball,
and
I
give
him
a
signal
to
go,
and
he
goes
for
a
touchdown
and
scores
this.
How
I
kind
of
see
this
situation
with
the
developers
and
the
south
again
folks
with
this
development,
how
much
field
explained
it
and
it's
kind
of
like
again
the
fr
and
the
density.
G
Well,
if
I
do
density,
I
got
to
pay,
but
if
I
can
get
this
fr
situation,
I
can
get.
I
can
slide
on
the
radar
and
score
a
touchdown,
so
I'm
gonna
sit
back
and
see
how
I'm
gonna
vote
on
this,
but
again
it's
difficult
on
both
sides,
but
in
the
end
I
believe
it
will
work
out,
though,.
D
Councilman
miranda
and
then
councilman
dinklage.
I
saw
your.
G
E
Life
into
this
thing,
what
I'm
looking
at
is
you
know
I've
heard
a
lot
about
evacuation,
evacuation,
evacuation
and
I
agree
with
all
that.
The
only
problem
is
even
if
you
do
your
evacuation,
a
hundred
percent
correctly
according
to
the
rules
and
records
or
you're
supposed
to
do
it,
there's
so
many
variables.
First,
you
have
it's.
A
hurricane
you've
got
two
or
three
days
to
leave.
E
If
you
really
want
to
do
it
right
and
then
what
about
all
these
neighboring
communities
around
us,
including
those
in
the
city
of
tampa,
including
those
around
the
area?
You
got
people
from
the
south
from
gibson
and
and
broughton,
and
you've
got
people
from
the
north
all
over
new
tampa
that
live
in
the
city
limits
and
you
have
people
in
the
unincorporated
area
that
have
to
leave
and
all
the
way
cities
up.
If
you
have
a
tragedy
somewhere,
guess
what
nobody's
leaving,
I
really
feel
going
to
leave.
E
E
That
only
takes
you
a
few
minutes,
but
at
that
time
it'll
take
you
35
to
40
minutes
without
a
hurricane
without
a
tornado
without
any
disruption
of
services.
So
what
I'm
looking
at
is
something
that's
pretty
wide
and
if
I
read
it's
right,
it's
the
same
status
quo
minus
the
far
for
that
period
of
time.
What
happens
when
this
becomes
an
ordinance
if
it
goes
all
the
way
through
the
hearings?
E
E
Any
city
who
hasn't
made
some
commitments
to
change
for
the
future
will
not
make
it
in
the
next
50
years,
so
I'm
trying
to
do
best,
I
can
to
make
it
fuel
something
for
the
betterment
I'm
having
a
lot
of
discussion
in
my
mind,
which
is
the
best
way
there
there's
there's
a
lot
of
variables
in
here
that
we
do
not
control.
E
We
don't
control
the
weather,
you
don't
control
the
population
shift,
you
don't
control
the
people
moving
down
and
say:
hey,
go
somewhere
else,
because
you
don't
want
to
do
that.
You
know
when
you
look
around
it's
not
the
only
people
that
are
coming
in
from
the
north
that
are
staying
here.
It's
that
the
kids
that
used
to
go
away
to
college
and
go
somewhere
else
are
not
wanting
to
come
back
and
live
in
the
same
city
with
her
parents
and
grandparents
and
family,
and
that
part
of
our
increase-
and,
thank
god,
that's
happened.
E
E
If
there's
40
40
developments
that
are
happening,
how
many
is
it
a
hundred
percent
to
use
the
far
or
is
it
less
or
what
is
it
I
I
don't.
I
don't
have
an
answer
to
that.
I
Abby's
daily
land
development-
I
I
ran
all
of
the
applications
for
the
past
five
years
and
it
varies
by
land
use
category.
I
I
pulled
out
the
ones
that
did
just
multi-family
so
there's
a
combination,
a
handful
of
them
had
multi-family
and
a
non-residential
use.
Some
of
them
just
had
the
multi-family
in
the
umu
60,
many
of
them
used
density
because
it's
up
to
50
units,
the
acre
in
the
cmu
35
in
the
cc35,
the
majority
of
them
used
far.
E
I'm
looking
for-
and
I
appreciate
your
answer,
but
I
I
I
I
need
more
specific
as
far
as
percent
wise,
like
if
you're
looking
for
an
interest
rate
at
a
bank,
you
may
have
0.002
and
somebody's
0.2,
I
don't
know
so.
Those
are
the
things
that
I'm
interested
in
to
find
out
where,
where
we
stand,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
enough
that
are
using
it
so
that
we
can
say
listen.
I
Well-
and
I
think
I've
reported
when
we
came
before
you
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
that
several
projects-
and
they
were
not
south
of
gandhi
in
the
cmu
35,
where
they
would
be
allowed
up
to
30
using
density
without
a
bonus,
were
at
over
100
units
a
acre
by
using
far
so
it
was
more
than
double
more
than
triple.
You
know.
In
some
cases,
one
one
project
was
at
137
units,
the
acre
and
our
highest
land
use
category
within
the
city,
which
is
the
regional
mixed
use,
100.
I
H
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
mr
vera,
real
quick
on
an
important
issue,
lewis,
the
I
I
think
what
you
said
makes
is
makes
a
good
point.
You
know
that
that
you
know,
I
think,
you've
said
it
in
the
past.
If
you're
trying
to
fix
some
one
thing
and
then
you
go
off
and
mess
something
else
up
and-
and
I
know
that's
your
legitimate
concern,
but
here's
here's
the
deal
is
there
is
a
mixed
use
exception
here.
H
Okay,
all
a
developer
has
to
do
no
matter
if
they're,
developing
in
in
ebor
city
or
armature
or
some
other
place
that
we
might
be
impacting
by
this.
All
they
have
to
do
is
include
a
a
component
of
mixed
use,
and
that-
and
I
just
confirmed
this
morning
with
with
our
legal
staff,
that
component
could
be
very
small.
H
You
could
have
a
hundred
thousand
square
foot
project
and
put
in
a
thousand
square
foot
little
convenience
store
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you
are
not
going
to
be
impacted
at
all
by
this
ordinance
and
by
this
comp
plan
amendment
that
we're
about
to
pass
so
again
lions
and
tires
and
bears.
I
think
they're
overstating
it.
If
it's
a
cmu
category,
it's
meant
to
be
used
as
a
mixed
use,
but
then
they,
but
then
they
they
opt
not
to
or
they
do
it
on.
H
A
very
you
know
on
another
basis,
but
the
bottom
line
is
is
as
long
as
they
come
in
with
some
type
of
level
of
truly
mixed
use,
no
matter
how
small
we
still
have
to
consider
it.
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
approve
it,
but
we
have
to
consider
it
so
we're
not
stopping
that
type
of
development
in
ybor,
city
and
kate
or
abby.
If
you
disagree
with
what
I
just
said,
please
feel
free
to
chime
in,
but
I
think
I
think
what
I
said
is
accurate.
F
Dingfelder,
I
I
agree
with
what
you
said:
the
applications
can
be
filed
whether
or
not
they
get
approved
by
city
council,
depending
on
compatibility
and
other
issues.
That's
that
would
be
a
separate
discussion.
I
I
agree
I'll
chime
in
to
agree,
and
that
being
said,
I
mean
that
that
is
your
jurisdiction
today,
and
that
is
not
changing.
So
you
are
familiar
with
that
from
a
number
of
the
different
projects.
One
that
I
keep
using
is
an
example
at
the
corner
of
willow
and
cass
that
came
before
council.
Some
of
you
were
on
council
at
that
time.
Some
of
you
were
not
the
first
time
it
came.
I
It
did
have
mixed
use
components.
You
all
talked
about
that.
What
was
appropriate,
what
really
constituted
mixed
use.
I
believe
the
project
was
denied.
The
first
time
came
back.
Having
listened
to
the
messages
that
were
sent,
the
discussion
that
was
had-
and
it
did
come
back
with
a
greater
mixed
use
component.
A
A
You
know
when,
when
you
look
at
something
that
like
this,
which
is
city-wide,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
no
unintended
consequences.
You
know
this
goes
forward
today
and
people
you
know
here,
should
100
percent
vote
their
conscience
and
and
that's
110
right
to
do
and
whatnot,
but
I
think
it's
incumbent
on
us
if
this
goes
forward,
because
you
know
we'll
do
first
reading
second
reading
etc.
To
you
know,
do
your
do
all
of
us.
A
Do
our
due
diligence
in
terms
of
inquiring
with
different
communities,
because
that's
something-
and
maybe
I
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
I
didn't
know
if
outreach
had
been
done
to
numerous
communities,
I'm
trying
to
reach
out
to
north
tampa
tamp
innovation,
different
groups
and
just
make
sure
that
there's
no
unintended
consequences
with
this.
So
again
for
me,
I
I,
with
the
information
that
I
have.
I
think
this
is
a
good
plan
amendment.
A
This
should
go
through
the
plan
amendment
process.
I
think
that
there
are
other
concurrent
things
that
we
can
do
on
this:
invest
in
infrastructure,
support
off
offer
transportation
go
through
the
text,
amendment
process
and
by
the
way,
we're
getting
american
relief
act
dollars
of
over
80
million
dollars,
some
of
which
can
go
to
some
of
these
legitimate
concerns
throughout
our
city.
A
So
again,
mine
is
a
matter
of
procedure
not
as
much
on
substance
but
again
members
should
a
hundred
percent
vote,
their
conscience-
and
I
know
that
a
lot
of
folks
have
put
in
a
lot
of
work
on
this
and
and
I'm
appreciative
of
that.
Thank
you.
C
D
D
E
Miranda
wright-
I
just
want
to
wish
a
belated
birthday
to
a
dear
friend
of
baseball.
He
belonged
to
the
hall
of
fame.
My
pete
rose
turned
80
years
old
yesterday,
and
I
just
want
to
wish
them
a
happy
80s.
D
E
K
I've
been
I've
had
meetings
with
the
walk
bike,
people
and
the
sidewalk
stompers
and
also
developers.
Yesterday
we
had
a
meeting
of
a
bunch
of
them
together
talking
about
ways
that
we
could
build.
A
new
sidewalk
policy
that
is
was
put
is
put
together
by
consensus,
similar
to
the
tree
one
a
couple
years
ago,
that
was
unfortunately
undone
by
the
legislature
anyway.
K
That
process
is
proceeding,
but
in
the
meantime
there
is
a
problem
that
that
we've
seen
where,
if
a
if
a
homeowner
does
not
have
a
sidewalk
in
front
of
their
home
and
they're
immediately
across
the
street
from
a
school,
the
city
cannot
buy.
I
think
state
law
build
a
crosswalk
from
the
school
to
that
corner
and
so
and
because
of
that,
because
there's
no
sidewalk
on
that
piece
of
property,
it's
causing
a
lot
of
dangerous
situations
where
kids
and
families
cannot
cross,
because
we
can't
legally
build
si
crosswalks.
K
So
in
consultation
I
know,
there's
a
sidewalk
plan
going
on
as
part
of
the
mobility
exercise
and
there's
this
thing
that
we're
working
on,
but
just
to
try
to
triage
this
immediate.
What
I
consider
dangerous
situation.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
ask
the
mobility
staff
to
study
the
possibility
of
installing
crosswalks
and
wear
necessary,
always
stops
or
lights
at
every
public
school
entrance
exit
in
the
city
of
tampa
from
the
school
property
to
the
immediately
adjacent
block.
K
L
Yes,
sir,
mr
chairman,
and
and
to
bring
to
council's
attention
just
so
you
know
there
is
a
next
week's.
The
april
22nd
workshop
is
a
discussion
of
the
sidewalks.
So
I
guess
I
don't
know
what
the
intent
is.
K
Is
a
specific
micro
issue
and
the
issue
is
what
to
do
about
the
places
where
we
can't
build
crosswalks,
because
there's
not
a
sidewalk
on
the
other
side.
L
Of
june
now
the
question
you
presently
have
a
commendation
for
police
officer
of
the
month.
You
also
have
presently,
in
june
the
staff
to
present
land
development
code
amendments.
I
do
not
know
how
long
that
takes.
Do
you
wish
to
schedule
this?
For
let's
say
that's
it
for
nine
o'clock.
Would
you
like
to
schedule
this
for
10
o'clock,
then.
D
K
You
and
then
one
more
you
may
have
seen
what
I
think
is
very
bad
news.
We
knew
this
was
coming,
but
the
the
let's
say
legislature
voted
yesterday
to
require
municipalities
to
to
force
people
to
drink
toilet
water
essentially,
and
this
governor
was
supposed
to
sign
it
as
early
as
today
I
haven't
looked
at
the
news
to
see
if
that
was
signed
already
I
mean
this
is
a
it
for
it's
interesting
for
a
republican
legislature
and
governor.
K
This
is
fiscally
reckless,
because
it's
going
to
cost
hundreds
of
millions
of
dollars
for
each
city.
You
know
we're
talking
about
400
million
dollars,
plus
20
to
40
million
dollars
a
year
operating
expenses.
We
don't
need
it.
We
have
plenty
of
supply
of
water
for
20
30
years
without
having
to
drink
toilet
water,
and
I
wish
that
we
city
had
lobbied
against
it
and
maybe
there's
still
a
way
to
modify
it
because,
unlike
the
rest
of
the
state,
we
have
tampa
bay
water.
We
have
a
regional
supply
and
a
regional
plan.
K
We
don't
have
the
same
problems,
the
other,
the
rest
of
the
state
has,
and
it's
unfair
that
we're
going
to
have
to
charge
our
rate
payers.
You
know
five
to
ten
dollars
a
month
just
so
they
can
have
the
right
to
drink,
toilet
water,
and
I
so
what
I
there
is
a
a
workshop
discussion
coming
up
on
pure,
which
is
the
new
name
for
toilet
tap
on
may
27th.
K
K
I
think
we
have
to
have
a
legal
opinion
by
then,
so
I
would
suggest
that
this
would
come
just
before
the
the
other
discussion
and,
ideally
would
be
you
know,
by
by
an
attorney
who
studies
legislative
issues
separate
from
just
water,
but
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
ask
city
legal
staff
to
report
back
to
council
at
the
may
27th
workshop
on
the
new
state
legislation.
Regarding
toilet
to
tap
and
its
impact
on
the
city
of
tampa,.
C
H
I'll
consider
seconding
it,
but
if
you
could
with
if
you
could
modify
the
word
toilet
to
tap
just
because
I
think
it's
it's
it's
a
little
inflammatory
and
it
kind
of
alludes
to
the
fact
that
maybe
we
you
know,
maybe
we
don't
want
it
or
we
do
want
it
and
I
haven't
decided
yet
so,
if
there's
a
better
term
for
that,
I'm
always
up,
for
you
know
additional
additional
information.
I
think
that's
what
you're
looking
for.
K
K
Don't
know,
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me
how
about
if
we
call
it
converting
wastewater
to
drinking
water,
unfound
and.
C
C
K
Yeah,
but
I
think
it
it
specifically
says
that
it
has
to
be
used
for
drinking
water.
Am
I
not
correct
for
drinking
yeah.
K
K
K
I
K
About
if
we
just
called
the
state
legislation
regarding
converted
converting
reclaimed,
water
to
drinking
water
and
then
you're
going
to
give
us
the
legal
opinion
on
it
anyway,
so
you'll
tell
us
what
it.
What
exactly
it.
D
D
So
we'll
keep
it
at
nine
o'clock
and
we'll
have
it
after
the
police
officer
of
the
month,
so
that'll
be
right
before
the
the
peer
project.
Yes,
okay!
So
first
on
the
agenda
right
after
police
officer
of
the
month,
motion
from
councilman
ding
felder,
I'm
sorry
motion,
councilman,
carlson,
second
from
councilman
dean,
felder,
I'm
sorry
all
in
favor.
C
J
D
Else,
sir,
that's
it
thank
you
councilman
goodes.
Do
you
have
anything
thank.
G
D
G
Chair
for
leadership
today,
I'm
gonna
be
mr
vieira.
For
a
moment.
I
have
a
bunch
of
emotions
to
make
today.
G
G
Thank
you,
sir.
The
next
question
I
have,
I
attended
the
a
member
of
the
ahab
board
for
the
county
and
I
made
a
recommendation
on
monday
in
reference
to
you
know
this
term.
We
have
in
the
the
development
community
and
a
lot
of
folks
have
started
using
the
word
workforce,
work
or
workforce
housing
and
to
me
that
word
does
not
symbolize
folks
in
our
communities.
G
You
have
what
they
call
essential
workers
and
people
are
missing
too,
because
I
know
what
certain
individuals
or
certain
professions
making
to
me.
That's
not
workforce.
To
me,
a
workforce
is
an
actual
folks
that
work
at
the
walmart
mcdonald's,
the
burger
kings.
So
what
I'm
asking
just
like,
I
asked
the
ahab
board
to
come
back
with
a
definite
define
that
and
look
at
maybe
changing
that
trend
and
name
so
to
clarify
workforce
from
essential
workers,
because
people
need
to
understand
that.
G
So
I
like
to
make
a
motion
for
the
housing
and
legal
department
to
define
the
term
in
the
difference
between
essential
worker
and
workforce
worker.
I
would
also
like
the
administration
to
explain
affordable
housing
and
development
of
it
in
the
city,
as
it
relates
to
both
essential
worker
and
workforce
worker
and
have
that
back
on
624.
L
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
be
clear
june
24th.
Is
that
a
sufficient
amount
of
time
for
it?
Did
you
have
an
opportunity
to.
G
C
G
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
for
the
housing
and
legal
department
to
define
the
term
and
difference
between
essential
worker
and
workforce
worker.
I
would
also
like
to
administrate
to
explain
affordable
housing
and
development
of
it
in
the
city
as
it
relates
to
both
essential
worker
and
workforce
worker
and
I'll
have
a
copy
of
the
motion.
The
exact
verbiage
for
you.
L
D
D
All
right,
10,
30.,
okay,
all
right,
10
30.-
is
that
all
right
motion
from
councilman
orlando
vieira
today,
second
from
who's,
the
second.
D
Second
is
councilman
in
favor.
G
Last
and
final
one,
sir,
as
you
know,
you
hear
a
lot
of
communities
talk
about
gentrification
and
talking
about
people
being
uprooted,
we
have
to
have
development,
that's
a
must
to
bring
up
marginalized
communities,
but
what
I
would
like
to
to
make
a
motion
for
the
legal
department
to
look
into
a
new
zoning
ordinance
that
will
reduce
the
displacement
of
low
to
moderate
income
residents
and
to
look
into
the
new
chicago
illinois
ordinance
or
any
other
cities
around
the
nation
that
have
taken
the
steps
to
reduce
displacement
of
residents.
G
D
On
the
workshop,
just
so,
everything
is
in
order,
second
from
councilman
vieira,
all
in
favor
any
opposed
anything
else.
Sir.
Thank
you,
councilman
sietra.
Thank
you
very
much
requesting
planning
commission
schedule
a
planned
amendment.
Adoption
hearing
for
pa.
J
D
501
pm,
yes,
sir,
all
right
perfect,
we
have
a
moment
from
councilman
sietra.
Do
we
have
a
second.
J
Yes,
sir
councilman,
I
I
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
with
some
lovely
people
at
the
beach
park,
homeowners
association
and
among
many
things
that
they
had
discussed
with
me
and
talked
with
me.
The
number
one
thing
that
they
had
asked
about
was
the
closure
of
ward
street
from
kennedy
boulevard
to
west
cleveland
street.
Now,
during
all
this
discussion,
I
found
out
that
this
street
was
closed,
opened
and
closed.
Yet
again,
all
before
any
of
us
were
on
council
regardless.
J
So
my
motion,
sorry
vic
b
day,
is
to
have
staff
more
particularly
mobility,
to
appear
regarding
the
closure
of
south
ward
street
from
west
kennedy,
boulevard
to
west
cleveland
street
on
may
20th
under
staff
report,
question.
H
Yes,
sir
I'll
second,
it
interesting
history
on
that
closure,
because
half
that
neighborhood
wants
it
closed
and
half
of
them
haven't
but
wants
it
open.
If
you
live
close
to
it,
you
want
it
closed
and
if
you
live
further
away
into
beach
park,
you
want
it
open,
but
but
anyway
I'm
I'm.
Definitely
I
hear
you
joe
and
I'll.
Second,
your
motion.
J
And
before
we
take
a
vote,
you
know
there
were
a
few
people
that
during
the
discussion
said
that
they
were
all
right
with
it.
But
again
dialogue
solves
everything
and
if
we
can
get
the
the
specific
reasons,
why
maybe
we
can
all
understand?
But
again
all
this
was
done
before
I
became
part
of
council
and
I'd
like
to
hear
about
it
before
I
hear
any
more
from
the
beach
park
community.
K
No,
I
just
want,
I
want
to
say
the
same
thing
that
mr
dingfelder
said
is
that
I
had
an
earful
a
few
months
ago
that
my
understanding
is
that
that
was
vacated
and
privately
owned,
but
it
was
not
closed
and
there's
there's
a
large
fraction
of
people
that
want
it
closed,
and
so,
as
long
as
they,
this
conversation
is
going
to
be
open
to
both
sides.
Then
then
I
would
vote
for
it
right.
It's
not
well!
I'm
I'm.
A
Thank
you
very
very
much,
mr
chair,
you
know
I
I
wanted
to
just
say
about
this
council
that
we
we
just
went
over
this
plan,
amendment
issue
and
the
application
now,
and
I
just
wanted
to
commend
everybody
for
you
know
your
everybody's
thoughtful
statements
and
and
and
whatnot,
and
it's
a
issue
that
ignites
a
lot
of
passion,
and
I
think
we
did
it
in
a
the
dialogue
in
a
in
a
you
know,
responsible
way,
and
I
just
I
just
want
to
say
I
think,
that's
important.
A
A
They
have
such
a
wonderful
perspective
role
to
play
in
tampa
and
I'd
love
to
have
them
come
on
if,
if
the
calendar
holds
it
on
june,
17th
of
2021
for
like
five
ten
minutes,
whatever
just
to
come,
talk
about
what
they
are
looking
to
do
in
our
community
and
ways
that
you
know
the
city
can
assist
them
in
their
wonderful
mission.
D
Five
or
ten
minute
presentation,
all
right,
we'll
do
that!
Do
you
want
10
minutes
sure
all
right,
second
much
from
councilman
vieira
for
june
17th
under
ceremonial
activities
and
second
from
councilman
citro,
all
in
favor,
aye
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Yes,
sir,
and.
A
A
A
J
A
D
Any
opposed
yes,
sir
and.
A
Then
just
lastly,
if
I
may
y'all
may
have
read
it
and
used
by
c.t
bowen
on
the
discussion
being
held
in
the
county
commission
on
the
new
tampa
performing
arts
center.
It's
something
that
has
been
in
the
works
for
about
17
years,
which
was
mostly
a
a
county
initiative.
With
regards
to
funding,
we
did
rezoning
on
it.
In
fact,
chairman
manscalco
and
councilman
miranda
may
remember
this
in
2017.
A
It
was
a
couple
weeks
after
I
got
in
into
tampa
city
council
on
the
hunters,
lake
project
and
whatnot,
but
now
there's
becoming
a
dispute
you
may
have
read
about
in
the
in
the
tampa
bay
times
on
whether
or
not
the
county
is
going
to
fund
it.
It's
a
large
project.
A
That
means
a
lot
to
the
people
of
new
tampa
and
then
something
that
came
up
in
the
discussion
that
that
I
think
is
so
pivotal
is
whether
or
not
the
city
of
tampa
will
help
out
with
the
reasonable
maintenance
costs,
which
are
believed
to
be
two
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year,
whether
or
not
we'll
you
know
just
fund
the
portion
of
that,
and
you
know
there.
There
was
a
belief.
A
I
guess
in
the
county
commission
that
the
city
of
tampa
had
said
no
to
assisting
with
it
and
that's
true
and
yet
not
consistent
with
the
present
reality,
which
is
the
prior
administration.
According
to
what
I've
been
told,
the
buckle
administration
said
no.
This
administration
has
not,
according
to
the
information
that
I
have
presented
to
me,
been
presented
with
a
request.
A
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
tampa
city
council
to
request
that
the
caster
administration
engage
with
the
county
out
of
the
for
maintenance,
assistance
of
one
kind
or
another
again,
not
putting
a
dollar
reasonable
maintenance
assistance
for
the
new
tampa
performing
arts
center
out
of
the
and
I'm
sorry,
I
wrote
down
here
the
through
the
social
action
and
arts
fund
process
and
any
process
that
may
be
available
to
get
those
funds
and
again
this
is
not
prospectively
a
big
budget
allocation,
you're,
probably
talking
about
50
75
000,
just
for
the
caster
administration,
to
engage
with
them
on
that,
because
you
know
it's
so
important
to
have
the
city
of
tampa
funded
subsidized
arts
throughout
all
of
the
city
of
tampa.
D
D
Okay
and
since
we're
on
the
birthday
thing
happy
62nd
birthday
to
my
father
yesterday,
62.
wow,
just
a
kid
just
a
kid,
so
yeah,
I'm
only
22..
So
you
know
oh
and
if
yes,
sir.
A
I'm
sorry
if
I
may
that
tomorrow,
I
think
at
1
45,
because
some
council
members
had
expressed
interest
in
coming.
We
were
going
to
be
honoring,
I
think
out
here
at
at
city
hall,
luis
camposano
and
colonel
orlando
rodriguez,
who
are
bay
of
pigs
veterans
for
their
service,
including
in
the
united
states,
military
army
and
navy,
because
it's
the
60th
anniversary
of
the
bay
of
pigs
invasion.
And
what
not?
I
know
some
council
members
had
expressed
interest
in
going.
So
just
if
anyone
does
just
please
inquire.