City Of Tampa Tampa City Council 2021, 14 Jan 2021

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Tampa City Council 01142021 Pt.1

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A masterpiece the broadcast is now starting. All attendees are in listen, only mode.

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Good morning, everyone I'd like to call this tampa city council meeting to order happy new year. This.

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Is our first meeting of the year before we go to invocation and pledge of allegiance? If we could.

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Have a moment of silence for two individuals: the first one is hillsborough county deputy.

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Corporal brian levine, who was killed a few days ago if you've watched the news and you've seen.

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This gentleman, who was one shift away from retirement, was killed in the line of duty.

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As well as tpd attorney kirby rainsberger, who served with the city for just under 30 years,.

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Passed away, I believe yesterday, a beloved member of the.

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City of tampa family, a gentleman that I had the opportunity to know.

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A friend to many he passed away so if we could have a moment of silence for these two gentlemen,.

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Thank you very much and at this time I'd like to yield to council member bill carlson who will be.

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uh Introducing our guest today for the invocation good morning, everybody I have the privilege of.

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Introducing erica allen um in south tampa I pop into or attend lots of different churches, and this.

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Is one that I attend: it's a relatively new church a year and a half or so old. It's called horizon.

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And eric and her husband chris, have have built this really unique following.

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One thing people say about churches is that religion is dying and younger people don't.

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Want to participate and they draw people of all ages, but in particular they're drawing.

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Lots of young families in south tampa and building a community of folks who work on.

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Projects throughout south tampa also they're, very technologically savvy, which has come in.

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Handy in the last few months so anyway, without further ado, I'll introduce erica to um give the.

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Invocation should we stand and please stand and remain standing for the pledge of allegiance.

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First, I would just like to say thank you so much for the opportunity to be here, and I would like.

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To also say thank you to each of the city council members who show up today and are doing your job.

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To represent democracy, and I thank you for each of the citizens who've shown up today.

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To respectfully participate in democracy, something that has been an interesting issue in our country.

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The last few weeks, so thank you to those of you who have shown up tomorrow, is the actual date of.

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Dr martin luther king jr's birthday, we celebrate his birthday with a national holiday on monday.

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And in light of what has been experienced in this country in the in recent months, I just.

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Want to honor the legacy of dr king, and so many activists and black americans who have worked for.

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What dr king calls the beloved community- and I I know, we've had a moment of silence, but I.

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Just want us to have a moment of silence to honor the legacy of those who've worked so hard for us.

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To have a beloved community and and hear maybe what it is, the divine what god would call us to.

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Do in this moment, so if we could just start with a moment of silence and then I'll begin, the prayer.

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Dear god, we come this morning, some of us still reeling from horror and yet filled with hope.

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We are reminded that our actions here at a city council meeting often involve hearing issues.

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Around what we call a grassroots movement- and we just pray god that the seeds that are sown.

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Here will take root and that they will begin to grow something beautiful and amazing. In this city.

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Bless the grassroots effort of your people- god we come this morning longing for kindness and love.

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And generosity, to lead the way we are reminded that each council member here this morning deeply.

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Loves this great city, I pray that their decisions, their actions, their lives, will radiate kindness.

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And love and generosity in a world that needs it so desperately. I pray for each person who will.

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Speak today, god may we recognize the power of our words and use them to build up this community. We.

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Come this morning, longing for strength and unity, open our eyes to inequities and open our ears and.

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Our hearts to hard conversations, may we remember that real strength is found in the courage to be.

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Vulnerable in the bravery to see the unseen in the quest to do what is right for all people.

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Make tampa strong and unify us for the work of building a beloved community right here we come.

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This morning, longing for the day that our policies and our systems are not wrought with racism.

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And we thank you for the witness of dr king and for tampa activists who worked so hard to begin.

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This important work like clarence, fort reverend leon, lowry, glenny, ross, james and so many others.

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God may their work not be in vain empower us to continue the work that they started.

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Right here in tampa god, we also come this morning, tired and weary, from fighting a pandemic for.

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Months and months and months, we ask for you to strengthen every health care worker right now. We.

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Ask you to grant hope to the weary help us to love our neighbors and comfort, those who grieve we're.

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Thankful for a vaccine god- and we pray that it will be in the arms of our most vulnerable quickly.

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And efficiently, give us wisdom for that process. Heal our land from this virus and the detrimental.

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Effects of it, god, we can't forget the citizens of this great city, who are lonely, addicted depressed.

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Desperate hungry and homeless show us how to be a community. That cares and let us surround.

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One another with love and support bless the work of this first meeting of 2021 and bless the work.

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Of this body and this community for the year ahead, use this room full of representatives.

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And concerned citizens to shine your light and ignite your change in a world that is desperate.

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For a new day, god tampa to continue to be one of the best cities in the entire world, amen.

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Roll call please.

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Vieira here google yeah carlson here ding felder sietra here miranda here here, mr shelby, yes, good.

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Morning, mr chairman, members of city council and the public martin shelby city council attorney.

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uh Today is thursday january 14 2021 and we're here at the temple convention center for a regular.

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Agenda meeting, which is a hybrid, live and remote, and this is being conducted during the covet.

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19 state of emergency, there is an in-person quorum present and the public has the option.

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Of remote participation used using what is referred to by the state of florida statutes.

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And rules as communications media technology and the meeting is held in accordance with emergency.

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Rules of procedure, as adopted by the city council, it's available to be seen on cable tv.

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At spectrum channel 640, frontier channel 15 and on the internet at www.tampa.gov forward, slash.

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Livestream, the public is able to participate using communications media technology with the following.

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Alternative methods- and that is in person here at the temple convention center speaking remotely.

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During public comment by the internet, the web, the email by voicemail and by you u.s mail and.

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For those who don't want to appear uh in this room, but do want to use communications, media technology.

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There is a kiosk outside this meeting room at the tampa convention center for the use of the public.

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Again, use of masks and social distancing inside this building are required and again council.

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For the public, if you wish to participate in future meetings, because there are deadlines.

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For registration uh required, uh I suggest you please go to tampa.gov forward, slash.

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City council, one word to the city council web page for additional instructions. Thank you very.

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Much, mr chairman, all right, thank you very much. Next up uh we have approval of the agenda and the.

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Addendum councilman sietra, I believe you wanted to make a motion to continue item number three.

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That is correct if we could all right. When do you want to continue to february 4th.

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February 4th would be fine. Thank you very much, mr chair. We have a motion from councillor.

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We have secretary councilman goodes, all in favor aye, any opposed.

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All right next up, councilman vieira. You wish to continue item number eight to february. 18Th is.

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That correct uh yes, sir, mr chair and I need to be specific as to um the the direction it's to allow.

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Continued meetings with staff and stakeholders on motion for a continuance and the first reading.

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Of the draft ordinance from today uh to the regular session of february 18 2021., um there.

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We we continue to meet on the uh apprenticeship ordinance with uh uh community stakeholders for.

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Some, you know incremental changes and whatnot and we continue to have negotiations and talking and.

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You know I'm an optimist and I believe that it's going to be ultimately successful.

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um One of the changes that also like to include in this motion perspectively is a provision.

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Addressing retainage as an incentive component of the ordinance concurrent with um the the present.

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Provisions in the ordinance, um if I may sorry, we have a motion from councilman vieira second from.

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Councilman goodes, I believe, all in favor all right all right um all right in regards to.

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Our staff reports- I know we have a lot of staff on standby, going through items 77 through 89.

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um Councilman dingfelder uh go ahead, sir. um I believe that in regard to item 37 that um that.

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There have been a request or an agreement from the administration to continue that for two weeks.

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And um mr bennett was here a second ago, mr chair, whenever you.

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This was in regard to the um the uh pure yes project and mr chairman leave, or is he in the.

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Hall, uh I believe, he's not present. um No, but I see here uh there is there's a memorandum. Yeah.

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There's a request that the agenda be placed under staff reports yeah, but I believe this was trump.

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John, I I raised item 37 in regard to the two-week continuance.

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John bennett, chief staff, sorry councilman, could you repeat that I said in regard to the.

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Two-Week continuance on item 37 for the pure project correct is that the staff's request.

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Yes, there was a memo sent by attorney jim mclean, approved by my office and sent yesterday to.

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Council, okay, so it was late. Arriving memo from the administration item number 37 today, it'll be.

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Two weeks out, so it won't be under staff reports I'll scratch that out counseling.

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I'm sorry that's so it would that hasn't been moved for the motion. The motion would be to move.

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It for two weeks to put it under staff reports, uh two weeks from now: okay, councilman carlson.

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If I could, um I think we ought to move this to may because it needs time to.

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For the proper research to be done and for proper public input to be gathered,.

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I don't know yet whether I'm for against this project and the comments I'll make are not.

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Necessarily for against the project, the problem is the way the project has been presented, and I.

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Think it's part of an old culture in the water department that um that the the new mayor and.

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Administration have been trying to change. I've expressed my concerns to mr bennett and others.

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The this project remember a year and a half ago we asked for the.

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The toilet to tap project to be sidelined, and and thank you to you all and- and I think you probably.

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Have gotten lots of praise from the community for sidelining that project? Similarly, it was.

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It was rammed down uh the community and tried to in the water department, tried to push it quickly.

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We asked for an alternative analysis and the staff came back with alternatives, analysis that included.

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The the alternatives that I had proposed, not any other, I'm not a water engineer, but they.

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Proposed ones that that I had proposed and they did it in a half-hearted way, that was not a fair.

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Apples and apples, comparison of the alternatives and the community wants a fair apples and apples.

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Comparison, the way this was rolled out was, uh at least for me- is I I didn't every water project.

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That comes up, I ask, is, it include totally to tap or any new version, and I keep hearing no, no, no, no.

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No, but a week before christmas, I get a call that says that this project is coming up and in the.

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Conversation, the staff says we we are working to quote, unquote, sell the community on this project.

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And the fact that it was launched during a pandemic when people are hurting for money and.

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They'd, rather, have their bills reduced it's being pushed now when we had an uprising in dc last week,.

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There are all kinds of things going on in the world plus the holidays. We had several holidays.

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During the break- and this was mostly pushed during that time, several groups were met with.

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And given partial information, but they don't have enough to make any kind of decision on it, then.

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The staff represented in an email to me at least, and maybe more of you that said, that these groups.

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Approved the project and they had not, uh they were they're withholding their judgment. They're.

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Not for against it because they don't have enough information, so the water department's attitude is.

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Well, we just need two more weeks to quote: unquote, sell them on the project. Well, the problem is that.

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The water department has a transparency problem and a trust problem with the community. um The.

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Old way of doing projects like this 20 30 years ago, was that you sell in and force the community.

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To accept them nowadays, what you do is you come up with an honest alternatives, analysis. You look.

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At what are the what? What is the problem, what are the alternatives, and you present the alternatives.

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And then you ask the public their feedback on the alternatives, but it has to be a fair apples and.

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Apples comparison, you can't, you can't skew it like, they did the last time and you can't put.

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False information in there misrepresenting what certain people say, and I have a concern that if, if.

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If some information is being misrepresented, how do we know that all of it is being is accurate, so.

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We look at the science of it, the the efficacy of the project. We need to have transparency in this.

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We need a a true alternative analysis by the way um uh I'm told in in a memo that was forwarded.

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To me, actually by a county commissioner, that 30 of the design of this project is done already.

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And my question is: where did the money come from to do that? Because every time the water department.

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Has come has had a budget item come up, I've asked them if it included this project and they said no.

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And several other folks have talked to the water department. It sounds like there are slush.

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Funds out there that they draw from in these projects and I'll give you one other item of.

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Of the level of mistrust last a year and a half ago, there was a a quality issue that was, that was.

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Misrepresented about the quality of the region's water as compared to tampa's water. Well, now we.

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Find out two weeks ago, the tampa bay times wrote a story that said the city of tampa is paying 1.9.

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Million dollars to fix the water quality problem, the water quality problem that the residents of.

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Our community knew all along was there. This is also the same water department that a couple weeks.

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Ago, shut down our water supply for five days and never told us exactly why the only answer we got.

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Was that a third-party contractor burst the pipe there? I don't know if you all watched online, but.

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The the residents were irate because they had to boil their water and they were mad, because the.

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The uh water department was not transparent and communicative, and I know in talking to.

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Chief bennett and and gene duncan and others that the water to part that they're working.

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Hard to try to change these transparency issues, but this is a 350 to 400 million dollar project.

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And a 10 million dollar budget for research, when it seems that the water department has.

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Enough money to do research and planning already without even getting our approval.

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I have a lot of concerns about this, and the community has a lot of concerns about the first.

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Time most people in the community learned about it was yesterday in the time story, and you can't.

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You can't run a city by not giving the public information and it's not about selling and and.

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It's not about saying, oh, if they just had the information, they would be okay with it. What are.

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The alternatives, and what are the problems that are causing this one of the problems, is that.

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They're claiming that tallahassee is forcing us to do it, I had three lobbyists in tallahassee.

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Tell me that they saw representatives of the water department. Tell has he lobbing for this.

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If that's true, did city council approve having them lobby for it? Why would the city of tampa.

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Lobby for something that's going to cost us 400 million dollars shouldn't. We have lobbied against.

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It or lobbied to edit it, um you know what there are a lot of questions related to this.

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There are issues about the environment, about minimum flows and about sulphur springs. They.

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Came up slightly a year and a half ago, but a year and a half ago the the the volume of water or the.

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Quantity of water was the big issue now suddenly environmental issues, what happens is they keep.

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Repackaging these things to sell the public in in their own words, they're selling the public.

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That's we cannot do that. We have to build trust. We have to bring out honest, factual information.

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And give the public choices, and I think we have to uh ask the the staff to do an honest analysis.

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Go to the public remember what in the in the rate case, we asked them to have robust public input.

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I think they had four or five public meetings. I attended almost all of them, and none of them had.

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More than 20 or 30 people, because they didn't adequately communicate them and what happened.

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When the water bills came up, we all got complaints because most people didn't know about it. We have.

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To change the way we engage the public and we have to trust the public, not try to convince them. We.

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Have to give them honest information and let them give us feedback and then based on that, we can.

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Make the decision if it comes back that the public supports this particular project I'll support it.

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If the public doesn't, but they support an alternative I'll support that it's not.

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That I don't want to support a solution to the problem if these problems exist, but we need an.

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Honest factual, transparent way of going about it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, mr chairman.

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The reason I made the motion is, I think, that we do need to let this breathe a little bit.

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For and give people the opportunity to ask questions over the next two weeks.

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During the during the christmas holidays, when this project was presented to me, I spent a lot of.

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The christmas holidays, much to my wife's chagrin, reading two big notebooks about 400 total pages.

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A 2018 and a 2019 report on this I have not committed in regard to how I'm going to vote.

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I usually just don't commit until I get all the information um bill, I'm not I'm not going to argue.

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With you brought up some good points, there are other points I might disagree with you, but I'm.

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Not going to argue with you today, my my motion is very simple: is to continue this for two weeks to.

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Give you and the community and the sierra club and other representatives of the environmental.

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Community a chance to continue to look at this and ask all the questions everybody wants to.

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If two weeks from now everybody's still not satisfied, then you can make another motion.

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To put it off until may, um but for right now, I'm comfortable with that and the other.

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I met with the mayor, talked to her a few times, as I'm sure everybody did and um and and she.

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Not only agreed to the two-week continuance without any objection, but she also agreed to the.

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To my request, in sarah club's request to make sure that there is an another set of eyes on this.

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That that, uh instead of just one group of scientists that we've hired for several years.

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Who are doing this project to bring in an objective uh another group to objectively.

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Look at all the scientific data and conclusions, so I'm not saying it's the end of the deal. I'm.

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Not saying any of that, I'm just saying, let's let it breathe for two weeks. That's my motion.

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Mr wait um chair this item is on the addendum to be continued to february 4th at 2021. number 37 is.

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On the addendum, it's all it is on the agenda: yeah councilman goods and councilman carlson.

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To my colleagues, I appreciate the conversation I too had some concerns. uh Getting calls over.

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The christmas break about a major item: that's uh talking about a lot of money down the road.

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I asked the question: were the other environmental groups involved and I was told yes, they were.

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Seem to be on board, but then um I hadn't committed. But I was looking down the road to say possibly.

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Okay for apostles 10 million to do this study or his analytical study. But then I get several calls.

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Finding out that the environmental groups were not on board and have enough information.

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And I I immediately called mr webber to express that. I think the the big ballpark.

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Figure is when I I met with them on our first year when we talked about pipes and tap. I said.

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We can't keep coming back nickel and dime into public, so we need to make sure we have.

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Everything inclusive that that didn't happen and- and my concern right now today is I- I think that.

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uh Mr dingfield is right and mr carlson's right. We need to take a step back and to make sure that.

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This city and the folks who live in this city know about what we're going to do or proposal to do.

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I don't think the citizens have enough time to understand what the undertaking is to move forward.

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I I'm not saying the project's bad. Nothing is good, I'm not a scientist, I'm not a water guy. That's not.

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My expertise, but I'm open to hear everything to make a good decision. That's best for the city.

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And citizens, sometimes our citizens, don't agree with some decisions we make, but we try to make the.

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Best decisions we can to move the city forward, so I'm going to agree is to to to hold back.

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uh The two weeks for discussion, if it needs more discussion, we always can do that.

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But I think that we we have to make sure that the community and again we talk about communication.

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We're spending money on communications. I see a new website going on. We we've got to be able to.

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Get it out to the people, so they can be able to tell us, uh because there's people, some scientists.

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Out there that we don't know about it, know about the system we're talking about. So I think that.

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Ms dean foley you're right on mr carlson here as well, and we can move the needle a.

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Little bit later, once we get a little bit more information, I yield back the chair.

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Carlson, the bureau- I think the the the big issue I mentioned is trust. The other thing is that the.

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Public cannot make a choice because there are no choices. There's only one option being presented.

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And the choices that were presented a couple years ago are not applicable anymore. They may.

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Some of them may or may not be, but there's not an apples and apples comparison. So how.

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Can the public make a choice? The only thing the staff's going to do is have more meetings where.

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They present the information and try to sell this to the public, but the public wants choices.

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What we're doing is we're saying that we don't trust the public to give feedback um on on what.

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The choices are, and so whether we make a motion here today or whether staff comes back. I think.

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um Knowing the the good intentions of the senior management, the mayor, I wish the staff would come.

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Back to us and say, we've decided to put this on hold and uh and and do a true alternative analysis.

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The the answer today will be well. We've got to rush this because swift, we need swift mud matching.

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Money we want to be first in line the people I've talked to in around swift said: that's not it's not.

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Accurate you don't need to rush waiting until may is not going to affect our ability to get funding.

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So it what's the harm in delaying it and doing an honest alternative analysis. In the end, we.

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All might agree with the proposal that staff has made but bring us along with the analysis.

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Bring the public, along with the analysis, so the public can trust the the solution. Councilman vero.

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Thank you, mr chair. I'm prepared to support councilman dinfelder's motion. I think.

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Those who have spoken, I think, all agree that we are stepping back a little bit and the issue is.

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Whether or not we step back in a collaborative way or step back in a way that could um how shall I.

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Say presume some mistrust in the process. I think that all seven of us agree that, in working with.

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The administration in every single, most every single I'll, say every. In my opinion, every single.

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Department administration um that folks have been collaborative uh folks have been. You know, bending.

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Over backwards to to work with us with all of our uh concerns, etc, etc. And I think that by going.

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Two weeks that does not preclude going to may if, in two weeks, there's still a lot of uh of of.

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Questions that are had etc. Then we'll probably get a 7-0 vote to go to may. But I think that.

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Two weeks is a reasonable step to take at this time, which is a collaborative step back that.

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Has everybody on board? Thank you. Thank you very much and I agree if, in two weeks we still have.

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Questions and issues, then we make a motion to kick this back to. May I think that's fair, but.

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uh From now to two weeks, which is february 4th the exact date we'll see where we're at.

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And we'll take a motion from there, so councilman dingfelder, you had a motion for a two-week con.

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The clerk points out that that is part of the addendum, so I apologize for for even bringing it.

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Up mr shelby, and also just for the sake of clarity and for the record for council's information, I.

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Believe is that three weeks, uh madam clerk, I believe we have a meeting on the 21st and the.

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Workshop on so it's february february, 4th is three weeks all right. Councilman miranda chairman before.

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We take a vote on this. I, like the administration at least, have the presence to be able to.

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Address the situation that we're talking about, I think that only be in fairness and honesty and.

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By the way, I've never been misled by any city department head. If I did I'd ask for them to be.

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Removed from office, mr chairman, chief bennett, thank you. uh Thank you. Councilman miranda and.

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Council, um as I mentioned before, the the memo came in with the continuance it was on the addendum.

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um I think jan mclean, our city attorney assistant city, attorneys, on the line and if she wants to.

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Speak to the memo that she drafted, I would yield to her and her virtual position at this point.

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All right, jan mclean, good morning, mr chair, thank you, mr bennett. This is uh jan. um I did uh draft.

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The memo requesting that the item be rescheduled to the february 4th regular council meeting for.

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Consideration at that time and we would continue to participate, as mr dingfelder has indicated, with.

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The groups that we've worked with, but I also believe that gene duncan, is on the line if she.

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Wanted to make any kind of statements with regard to staff activities, I would yield to her.

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All right, we have gene duncan on the line. Any questions for miss duncan.

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Hearing none seeing none, we have emoji from councilman ding felder for a continuance.

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To february 4th, second, we have a second from councilman goodes, all in favor, all right, all right.

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Any opposed I voted for it, but can I just make one quick sure I voted for it because I I appreciate.

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The administration uh delaying this but uh jean's on the line and I've spoken to her at length about.

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This and I have the emails where I and others have disputed the facts that were presented and- and I.

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Shared it also with with chief bennett. I hope that the I hope that the water department will come.

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Back and say we want to have an honest, transparent conversation with the public and present honest.

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Alternatives to the public and fully engage the public in this process. It will help build trust.

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Otherwise, what will happen if they go on a sales process? The next two weeks.

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Is the public's going to gear up and we're going to have a lot of protesters here telling us that.

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We have to delay it again and it's unnecessary. Ideally, the water department before february 4th.

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Will come back and say: we've voluntarily decided to change the process because we think that's the.

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Best thing to do. Thank you very good that settles that going back to the original question for staff.

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Item 77-89 is there anyone that we don't need present, so we can clear this up now and and.

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Release them councilman goode number 86, uh you receive the memo in reference to it. I did talk.

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To miss uh feely about that and she's going to get online to discuss what we, uh the old.

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What we can't do what we can do at this point, so there may be some changes on it, so you do.

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Not need uh miss philly. No, I need her she's gonna she's gonna get on and speak about, so we'll need.

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uh 86 uh 85, of course we have that regarding tampa, fire 87's been continued 88 regarding.

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The flood ordinance we'll have miss philly already on the line. uh 89 is just the calendar.

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80 is a wastewater bonds.

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We have another memo from abby, philly, abbey, philly, tampa police and legal for 83 84.. We.

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Have tampa fire here uh 79 those are just a large contract with mr baird, so I think we're set on.

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That so it's just it's very feeling, I'm sorry, mr chairman, with regard to those that were placed.

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On there, the large ticket items- yes, um if those don't have the need for discussion, you can handle.

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Them without staff, if that's council's pleasure, anybody have any objection to that for 77 78 79.

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Is 3.8 3.1 and five million dollars any questions on that? Anybody which one is it 77, 78 and 79.

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um I don't have any questions on it. I just wanted to point out.

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um And I can't remember exactly which one of these items, but I think two.

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Two of these items have have a very good uh ebo minority vending participation, and I just.

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Wanted to give a shout out to the administration and specifically to mr baird and his team and.

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And gene duncan for working really hard and listening to council and the community to make.

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Sure that we increase our minority participation- and I can't remember two out of these three we're.

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Very, very good and great improvement. So thank you. So we will not need uh mr baird or anybody.

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I think 7700, I don't need them. Councilman goodes, councilman goodes. um If you could speak directly.

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Into the microphone I know you were in the city of tampa mass, it's thick and I know your voice.

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Is a little muffled just to make sure that that everyone can hear you I looked at 77. I wasn't.

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Too clear two out of three mistakes was right: 77. I wasn't too happy, but.

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Like I said, we'll wait till after the 28th when we start discussing uh the ebo, oh you're back.

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Sir, thank you. Thank you very much. May I have a motion to approve the agenda and the addendum.

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Second, we have a vote from councilman goose for councilman rand, all in favor.

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Aye any opposed all right ceremonial activity. We have a motion from councilman.

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Goose to present vanessa mccleary with a uh commendation, councilman goodes go ahead, sir.

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Good morning again, gentlemen and happy new year to you happy new year and to.

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Our citizens, as well and staff this morning, we have the pleasure of ms vanessa mcclary.

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Our housing, a former housing director, a person who's done a lot with our housing communities.

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A lot when the pandemic occurred, making sure that our residents and business owners be able.

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To move forward, keep their business doors open, keep their mortgages paid their utility bills.

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And I think that's a great success that the city was able to do something in a short order.

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uh It was a grave undertaking and I know that that department has a lot of moving.

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Parts and a lot of things get thrown into that department, and I know it's very busy.

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With shore staff over there, but they work very hard over there.

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Miss vesa is vanessa b mcclary housing, community development manager city council presents this.

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Accommodation to miss vanessa b mcclary in honor of her service to the sea of tampa as the housing.

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Community development manager as a health and human service, professional investment provider.

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Extensive community development, expertise for the city's housing and community development.

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Division, vanessa, assisted with the coordination of over 40 different programs and services, was.

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Very successful in promoting fair housing, downtown redevelopment, historic preservation.

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And neighborhood revitalization, she was recognized as housing counselor of the year for the national.

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Federation of housing, counselors and co-authored the first nationally recognized housing, housing.

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Certification test vanessa has helped assist many low and moderate income residents with a dream of.

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Home ownership, in the cetera who work as the manager and community advocate, has brought the.

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Foundation for affordable housing and create strategic partnerships between local business.

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Owners, melissa mcclary has demonstrated herself to the imprisoning, innovative and true servant to the.

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To our community and gratitude to such efforts, the ceo team represents the accommodation mr clary.

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On the 14th day of january 2021, thank you, mr mcclary, for your work and your efforts.

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Housing is a big issue across the country, especially in our city,.

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And uh sorry that you moved on to bigger better things, but we're going to miss you.

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But we want to make sure that we did give you something to take with you like, say a few words.

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um I want to thank you for this recognition and this honor. It really does mean a lot.

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I am leaving the city of tampa government, but I am not leaving the city of tampa.

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I just feel that I can do more to expedite, affordable housing and help build the community.

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From the outside, so I really want to thank the staff that I worked with. They are very dedicated.

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Very passionate I want to thank bob buckhorn for hiring me bob mcdonough for supporting me.

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And during this new administration, I do give thanks to carol for pushing me.

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We did a lot in a very short period of time, and that was because of her, and I really do.

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Appreciate her for that, I also want to thank you, the council, for being so supportive.

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I have been out at events with just about all of you. I know that you really care about this city.

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And I know that the city is ready to go to the next level. The one thing that I do hope is that.

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When that next budget and I'm gonna throw a stone right now, but I'm not I'm gonna, show my hands.

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um When the next budget comes through, please please please make sure that there is funding in.

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There for more staff in the housing and community development division, they work very hard and a lot.

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Is asked of them and it's not fair, I think they do need more staffing and more funding. We can't.

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Do this all just on government funding again, I thank you for this honor and this recognition.

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Councilman ding felder, thank you, mr chairman um vanessa. um Little plaque and, and our words are not.

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Near enough to thank you for for your hard work, um I know personally, um I didn't know enough about.

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Affordable housing and in the last year and a half of working with you, you taught me so much and I.

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I so appreciate it community appreciates you and I do as well. Thank you very much. Good luck. Thank you.

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Councilman carlson- I just want to thank you too. I appreciated working with you.

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I appreciate your hard work and I also felt bad that we weren't able to help you.

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But you did a lot with the limited staff and limited budget and and we're all going to.

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Keep up the good fight too, to put more money and resources and affordable housing. Look forward to.

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Working with you in the community and thanks for all you've done councilman vieira. uh Thank you, mr.

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Chair no just thank you for uh all your service and I think your words on um additional funding.

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For staff is is very well taken. I think it goes to a larger issue, which is the public perception.

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Of a lot of social welfare agencies and public entities, which is there's a perception that the.

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The you know it's top heavy there's a perception of of the bureaucracy and this and that, whereas.

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The truth is, is that these kinds of social services in our country and in our city and in our.

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County and in our state are woefully underfunded, and so what what you said is very, very well taken.

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And we have to fight that public perception. um You know, there's that perception of of bureaucracy and.

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Of and of waste, and obviously there's waste everywhere right, but um but certainly when it.

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Comes to social welfare, I think the presumption we ought to begin at is that we need to do.

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More and we need to do better, so your words are well taken and thank you for your service.

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Thank you very much all right. Thank you. Next up we have the sierra club with a 10 minute presentation.

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Can I set this up go ahead, you know councilman sitro brought up some environmental issues.

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Presented by compton from sierra club and brooke barrett uh um and there's there's a coalition.

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Of several um environmental groups that have proposed that, and so thank you to councilman citro.

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For for suggesting that, and that process now is continuing um as the as these groups meet with the.

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The chamber and other groups nick glover for the chamber, is here.

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And so thanks to everybody for being involved with that today, uh what what they're being asked.

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To do is just present their five-year vision, five or ten year vision. You know what what's.

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Coming up and the idea is so that we don't get blindsided. You know with the next issue coming.

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Up and that the business community and others don't get blindsided, what's the big vision for.

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uh For um the environment in tampa, so I'll be quiet, let them speak. Thank you. Thank you. Thank.

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You, mr sheriff, I can't yes I'll, have a statement after they are finished. Thank you. Yes, sir.

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Mr compton, thank you, I'm phil, compton senior, organizing representative with sierra club. I.

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Work on clean energy issues and with me today is brooke herrett organizing representative, with the.

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Florida, food and water watch brooke. Okay, um is our presentation slideshow set there. We go wonderful.

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Well happy new year and thank you for prioritizing our presentation at this first meeting of the year.

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um As phil said, I'm brooke arrett with food and water watch and we're also here with the tampa.

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Bay, climate alliance: we want to start by thanking councilman citroe for sponsoring this legislation.

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And councilman carlson for initiating this presentation um also thank you to chairman escalco.

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For putting this presentation on the agenda and thank you to all of the council for giving us the.

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Space when you have such a big agenda to attend to today today, we are here to present on the.

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Steps that the city, council and city can take to move to a 100, clean energy future by 2030.

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Keep in mind that we understand the city is already doing a lot of this stuff, which is.

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Why tampa exceeds other cities and is already on road to success and in the interest of time we.

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Have provided you with a handout that goes more in depth and offers resources on the initiatives.

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We're suggesting today, with that I turn you over to my colleague phil compton, to discuss.

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The first step that you as the city council, can take in moving to a clean energy future next slide.

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Well, like anything else in life, first step to achieving something is to set a goal now.

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Tallahassee being what it is, we're one of the few states that does not have a goal for clean energy.

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It's up to cities in florida to do it themselves. 11 florida cities have already done that. It's our.

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Turn now we also need to join with these cities and advocate for clean energy policy at the state.

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Level next slide, please, once we act we'll be in good company over 100 million americans in big.

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Cities like chicago and atlanta and florida cities like saint pete and orlando, even small ones like.

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Safety, harbor and cocoa are already at work today on their clean energy future next slide. Please and.

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The second step, after passing, a commitment would be to commit to no new fossil fuel infrastructure.

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It's easy: it's an early step that you and the city can take to ensure a clean energy future.

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By doing so, you are setting a standard for no further investment in dirty fossil fuel, energy.

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The best thing about this commitment is that there's no associated direct capital expenditures.

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You're merely making a commitment to invest in the future of tampa and despite concerns.

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What we're looking at here would allow for the continued use of existing infrastructure.

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That means that entities like the airport and tgh and the port could continue their necessary use of.

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Infrastructure during this process and repair their existing infrastructure when necessary,.

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Until the transition can be made, keep in mind that all of the ins and outs of this process.

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Will ultimately be determined through the clean energy and action plan currently underway.

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In no way are we asking council or the city to shut down any existing infrastructure.

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Instead, we're finding a way to work together to find the best plan to move forward.

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On our collective goal to make tampa the clean energy leader, we all know we can be.

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And there's several things that you as city council could do in this process.

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First, you can update codes to prevent further investment in dirty energy by precluding.

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Permitting for new fossil fuel infrastructure- and we also, though, in this process, need to.

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Recognize the needs of our community and plan for aiding in the transition, in particular certain.

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Industries like restaurants, currently depend on their access to methane gas for operations.

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Well, we can help develop programs that aid in that transition from fossil fuels to clean energy.

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Sources and not put the burden on the community partners that sustain our city next slide.

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Mayor caster is following her plan, her commitments and her priorities and.

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Leading the way with the appointment of her new advisory council on sustainability and resilience.

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Which I'm honored to serve on staffed by our new sustainability and resilience director, whit, riemer.

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And chaired by representative kathy caster, who is also the chair of the u.s house, select committee.

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On the climate crisis, we're very lucky to have mayor, castor and representative caster.

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Working to lead our city, district and nation to a future with clean energy for all, but even with as.

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Distinguished a panel as the mayor's gathered president company accepted, we must also ensure.

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That any plan truly addresses the needs of all our residents from culberth isles to sulphur springs.

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For all in different ways, all on the front lines of climate change- and there is a role for council.

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To guide this process next libraries well one of the most exciting steps that we can take.

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Is increasing energy efficiency? The american council for an energy efficient economy has.

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Found that the city of tampa has a multitude of opportunities for expanding our energy efficiency.

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Which is awesome because energy efficiency is year, one the fastest, cheapest and easiest way.

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To decrease our energy needs and by starting with an energy audit in the first year, you can identify.

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Those current inefficiencies. Next, you could start investing in efficiency in efficiency. Now, cities.

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Have been investing in energy star purchasing programs prioritizing what needs to be updated now.

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Prioritizing items that have come to the end of their useful life, like light bulbs and hvac.

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Systems and replacing them with energy efficient alternatives so by investing in energy efficiency.

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Improvements: we've seen cities across the nation quickly come closer to a clean energy future.

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The less energy we use, the less energy, we need, the more money we save, and this.

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Alleviates our need for new power plants and saves the city tons of money next slide.

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The first step that many cities have taken sarasota comes to mind.

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Has been to examine their city codes for barriers to clean energy and energy efficiency, red tape and.

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Disincentives that I guarantee you'll, find your fair share of council has great experience in.

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Engaging in this sort of review with staff, we should use the lead leadership and energy and.

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Environmental design standards to invest in the most energy efficient new buildings for the city.

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Possible, which will have a great payoff for taxpayers with lower energy consumption.

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This applies equally to any future water project. We might choose to construct next slide. Please.

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And then there's financial incentives, such as rebates for renewable energy installations, tax.

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Credits providing exemptions from property taxes, the zero interest, loans that can be repaid through.

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Tax assessments- these are all fast ways for cities to move these programs. Incentive programs can.

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Offer tiered incentives to support renewable energy for low to medium income, households.

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And help to get the community to our energy needs one of the top things that cities have been doing.

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To finance their programs is taking advantage of their energy savings through energy conservation.

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Savings reinvestment, which that means you take the savings from your energy efficiency upgrades.

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Take a budget neutral step to then fund future municipal and public energy programs.

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And additionally, you can support and promote programs like the solar energy loan fund or self.

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Which gives low-income, homeowner homeowners, affordable pathways to energy upgrades.

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Establishing incentives helps residents and businesses to move quickly towards.

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Your goal so that, then you can support those in the community who need extra help.

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And as always, we need to continue supporting that metering for those who have already made.

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The transition to solar next slide, please and then there's public worker options, um increasing the.

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The amount of options for those who already work for the city, so the city can lead on moving to 100.

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By empowering municipal workers to be at the forefront of this transition,.

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By putting the energy transition management in the hands of our very capable municipal staff,.

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We will be leaps and bounds ahead. Not only can the city save on municipal and public contracts.

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For materials, we can train our staff to be experts on energy efficiency and renewable standards in.

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Fact what ramer's office has told us that they already see all sectors of municipal government.

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Engaging in this process and prioritizing a sustainable future in their day-to-day work.

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As a community, we can make this happen next slide, please this city, this mayor, knows how to.

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Communicate with residents and visitors, it's one reason why we get big events like super bowl, but.

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We can partner with tico, to educate folks just as well on how to save energy and generate it cleanly.

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We understand we have a shortage of skilled labor here in tampa for today's solar jobs, as we ramp up.

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Solar installation we're experiencing a big boost in jobs that pay very well for people without.

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College degrees, if we support training at our vote, tech, schools and places like ibew, and we could.

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Encourage tico to incentivize those who can choose clean energy over coal and gas next slide. Please.

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And then you can help the city to lead by example, through partnering, with tico.

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As an investor owned, utility tico has the option to go above and beyond and they've all ready.

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Committed to some great initiatives, but together you can pair with tico on high visibility, clean.

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Energy demonstration projects like rooftop, solar and initiative programs for ratepayers the city.

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Needs to lead in showing that you yourselves are investing in renewable energy for city buildings,.

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And operations and additionally, I know that the sustainability office and tico have been.

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Looking at ways to identify and procure leasing of public property in buildings, where we can generate.

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Renewable energy, so by establishing a city utility partnership, we can share in decision making to.

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Make the best investments community-wide and lead the community into the future next slide. Please.

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And finally, we should recognize that we've talked a lot about tico right. Our tailpipes are our main.

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Source of carbon emissions and the smog that makes it tougher here for kids, with asthma and seniors.

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With copd than in any other county in florida, it's why we get an f every year from the american lung.

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Association for having florida's worst smog, we are thrilled that mayor, castor, has committed to.

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The city doing its part and will soon by moving to an all-electric fleet, even electric garbage trucks.

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Hart will soon have its first electric buses and we can encourage them to follow mayor casters.

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Leading this commitment we'll find that not only is our air cleaner, our streets are quieter and.

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Our taxes are lower with the substantial savings and fuel and maintenance that come with any ev.

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Sierra club partners, with tico and our other utilities in the drive electric florida coalition.

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To work for access to ev charging for everyone, not just in our business districts and the city which.

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Is the newest member of the drive electric florida coalition can now work with the state's experts.

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To do that here next slide: hey and, as we said, we know you're already doing many of these things and.

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Thank you for that, but you've already put the city of tampa and city council in the unique position.

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To be a leader on these initiatives, thank you so much for your time and please let us know if.

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We can provide any further resources. Like I said, the handout has a bunch of different things. You.

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Can go to I also emailed it, so you don't have to write out those links. You can just click on them.

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And we would love to take any questions you have at this time. Thank you very much before I go to.

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Councilman sitra, I know he wanted to speak now at the end of the presentation you you.

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Said or you use the most important word and that's partnership; partnership with the city.

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Partnership with tico partnership with the sierra club you're out on the ground, you understand these.

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Issues we've seen this by your presentation. We know you you're respected in the community, but.

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By creating and building upon these partnerships, we can set an example to the rest of the country.

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You know we're known as the sunshine state, but we're not really embracing solar, we're moving.

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Towards that, but we're not embracing it, we look at automobile manufacturing and how electric cars.

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Which we thought many of us thought you know they'll never get off the ground. You know I.

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Had referenced back to the future earlier and I said by 2015, we'd have flying cars well, we're.

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Not there yet, but the electric vehicles are there. I mean you see what the amount of tesla's.

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On the road, the nissan leaf, the chevy volt bmw, has electric vehicles, so the individual.

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Is is moving towards that because they see not just a benefit to the environment, but the.

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Benefit to their wallets uh saving money on gas, reducing fossil fuel usage, reducing the emissions.

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But uh going back to what I said at the beginning, partnerships working together.

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You don't need to see the city as the enemy tico as the enemy, the sierra club, as the enemy we have.

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To see each other as partners and moving forward, because that is this- is our planet. It's going.

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To benefit all of us, we all win a rising tide, lifts all boats and that's the important part.

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Here and I appreciate this presentation very much- you hit on many many things- uh things.

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That we're doing and things that we can do but again working together, councilman citro.

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Thank you, mr chair, you just cut. You just cut my statements in half. I thank you. I have before me.

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An ecology flag- and I am now in full circle back in the early 70s I was in the chicago river.

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Cleaning it up wearing this a patch on my jacket. Now I've come to to realize that.

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This is the way that tampa needs to go. I was apprehensive at first. I have to tell.

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You brooke and and and phil, but when we all have an ignorance and what we don't know, we don't know.

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And with the help of my legislative aide, tim hemeline and people like nicholas glover, that.

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Have gone to the chamber and connected me with some of these larger corporations.

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And talking with them and them seeing their heads going, yeah you're, you're, right, you're, right.

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uh Technology is moving so quickly if we took the distance from here to mcdill air force base.

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Is the time that humans have been on this planet, the last inch would have been from.

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The wright brothers to landing on the moon, our technology is going to double and going.

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To change within the next 10 years so quickly and so rapidly, the fossil fuels will be way behind us.

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This is our chance as a city to be the leader, not only in the state, but in the country in the world.

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There will be side effects from this, and those side effects will be affordable. Housing case in.

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Point I just remodeled my whole condo and some of you may have followed me on facebook and something.

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Is simply is putting in led lights and energy star appliances, I've cut my bill by two-thirds.

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So if we can get the people that are paying one-third the amount of their rent.

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And knock that down. Yes, then we are talking truly affordable housing. I applaud councilman miranda.

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Who is one of the most energy efficient people I know of by the vehicle he drives and the things.

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That he does and again it's ignorance and it's not a bad ignorance. What we don't know we don't know.

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And if we can send this message to everybody in not only in tampa but the tampa bay area.

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We will have a cleaner environment, we will be living cheaper, we will be having more high paid.

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Careers, not jobs careers in this area, careers that will last for the next 20 25 years.

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Mr chair, I thank you for the opportunity to speak brooke and phil. Thank you for being here today.

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Let's work, not it's no longer an aspiration, it's a goal, and I want to thank my fellow councilmen and.

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I hope, when this comes back sooner than march, that it will be a 7-0 vote on this resolution.

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To move this city forward, thank you, mr chair. Thank you very much. Councilman miranda.

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Thank you chairman. um There are things that are happening in this world now that.

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Really were happening in the world back in 1900 before the gas engine there was electric cars.

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No one remembers that not even I who's 160 years old, but when you look at things, that's.

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What's happening is that what comes around goes around and comes back a little better.

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What happened is that the environment was so much bombarded by fossil fuels and and other chemicals.

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That we've gotten ourselves created a situation where we can't even sustain life as we knew it.

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Sometime back in the 40s and the 30s, you have vehicles that are coming out in the trucking.

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Engines uh rivlin the badger, the hummer semis from tesla that are electric semis for another.

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Company that I forget their name was also but there's something that I think is going to be.

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In the next few years, much bigger even than electric cars.

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And that's called blue gas, I'm sure you know what that is. That's hydrogen.

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It is my understanding that the hydrogen trucks that will be in production- I think in the next.

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Five or eight years or ten years at most can go 900 miles on a charge. What's holding back.

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The hydrogen phenom from taking over the electric that it costs a little bit more money to produce.

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Hydrogen now, as we know, even though there's a lot of abundance, but to transform it into.

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Automobiles and trucks, and so forth that sooner or later, that gap will also come down to the same.

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Thing as the electric cars have and for and it doesn't take 20 minutes or 30 minutes or.

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It takes seconds to fill up a semi with hydrogen that can go 900 miles and why? Why are they doing.

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Semis and not trucks in the beginning, well, trucks usually run from a to b and back from b to a.

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They have distance that they have routes that they go on and that's exactly what they travel.

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So it would be smarter for them to do something to go from a to b and b to a back than to have.

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Many many stations that you have to put the money into to charge your vehicle, and that was going.

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To start the revolution of another revolution, the electric cars will be in use, in fact, chevrolet s, r,.

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Commercial, the other day that said that chevrolet is working on how many new vehicles- and I would.

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Imagine chevy ford: all the car makers are going to have 80 percent, they say I say in 10 years, they're.

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Going to cut that from 20 to 10., and I really believe that. But I also believe that hydrogen.

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Will be the factor in robotics? Robotics is a thing that america is way behind.

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From the asian world, japan and china have 15 20 years ahead of us in robotics we will catch up.

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And we talked about, you saw a truck from the solid waste department or one like it, and in the.

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Near future, you're going to see those trucks run with either electric or hydrogen, with no driver.

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And guess what else you're going to see you'll see your garbage can roll itself out to the whether.

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It's picked up and you'll see no one touching anything. That's what's coming. I may not see it.

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But I can tell you that it's it's right around the corner and I've never invested in stocks.

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And if I was a stock broker, I'd tell you to invest in blue gas and robotics, and I admire the sierra.

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Club I like to, however, I want what was it kennedy said, don't ask what your country can do for you.

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That's what you can do for your country, so I'm asking you to tell us what you're doing yourself.

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To make this world better and what you're investing in yourself, what kind of cars you drive.

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I want that I'm not trying to be hard on anybody, but if you're going to lead, you've got to show the.

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Example what the people to follow and that's your responsibility as it is r7. Thank you very much, mr.

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Chairman, thank you very much all right. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you all. Thank you very much.

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Thank you all. Mr chairman, I had a quick question. Follow-Up phil! Yes, sir, um I'm sorry, that's fine!.

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Thank you, the uh it speaks to 2030 as a as a goal and obviously that's still always a ways off.

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But it's in and you and I I think, we've talked about this uh as well as I've talked to some other.

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People some people are concerned, that's an overly aggressive goal and and more aggressive than other.

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Cities are taking on and I think even you referenced atlanta is 2035.. um Can you can you.

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Give us a minute on why why you chose 2030 as opposed to the goals that other municipalities.

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Are choosing yeah this uh this whole national movement goes back four years over four years.

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Started in st petersburg among other places, and uh at that time the uh hardware was not as efficient.

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You know now: solar panels uh are much more effective, doesn't take as many as it used to.

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And we have something that we didn't have back. Then we have battery storage. So that's why tico.

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Frankly, surprised us all impressed us all by saying that they'll be at 22 solar in 2023, so.

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If you extrapolate that and make the choices that we can make with energy efficiency, we can get.

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There much sooner than anyone could imagine and again, several years ago, two three years ago, people.

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Would not have thought that that was possible, but now we are seeing more cities. There are actually.

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Over 50 cities in the united states that are already at 100 percent and in utah, which is not.

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What you would think is necessarily a progressive state. There are 23 cities with the same goal: 100.

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By 20 30., so it's happening is and more and more cities are moving in that direction very quickly.

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Because we can do more, and the great thing is at the time that we realized that we have to move.

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More quickly than we ever imagined, we learned that. Oh, we have all the tools that we need right here.

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If I could piggyback on that, um additionally, tampa is unique in that we are at one of the.

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Highest risks of the impacts from climate change and sea level rise. We also have the means to move.

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More quickly, you look at a city like atlanta, they have the busiest airport in the country.

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And 1.6 million people and they have a 2035 goal with 400 000 residents tampa- can exceed that.

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Additionally, we have the political climate now to make this happen. We're going to get funding from.

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The federal government um they're already have a plan nationally by 2035. and to offer money to.

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Cities making this transition. In fact, yesterday on a virtual town hall representative, u.s.

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Rep excuse me u.s representative, kathy caster, who leads the select committee on the climate.

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Crisis when she was asked about her goals, she said that they're currently on the path to get.

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There, by 2040. biden, has made a commitment to 2035, but she really thinks it should be 20 30.

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So when you have people like that leading on the national level, we're able to do it here in tampa.

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And we've already taken, you have already taken so many steps to make that happen. Thank you. Let.

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Me hear dave councilman, good councilman carlson, it's tico and the other companies on board with.

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This 2030 idea, because I hear a lot saying that they don't think they can be ready by 2030.

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So have we talked with them and had collaboration to see where they're at because I hear something.

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Maybe 20 35, maybe but 2040 might be a stretch elaborate on it. If you can't well, we have been.

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We've had conversations with tico we haven't had a one-on-one, we've been collaborating with our.

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Friend, nicholas glover from the chamber and we'll be speaking with the chamber, as you had requested,.

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At our last meeting together next tuesday and so we'll be happy to report back from that.

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What the conversations are that we have the agreements we can come to.

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The truth of the matter is we're in a climate crisis, and partnership is key, and sometimes we.

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Have to put these aggressive goals into place and then find a way for all of us to partner and work.

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Together, um it is important that we move quickly and rapidly uh because otherwise we're going to.

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Have irreversible damage and not be able to sustain life on this planet? If I could add.

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To that sir uh councilman goods, uh this isn't well known but uh tico a few weeks ago, filed.

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uh An intent with the public service commission to close one of their two remaining coal plants.

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By 2023, so we definitely see that as progress plus they're very aggressive, much more aggressive than.

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Any other utility in the state they deserve a lot of credit for ramping up their solar. They.

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Haven't announced what their plans are after 2023, but if you were to do a straight line, projection.

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It takes us to 100, so it's a conversation that we need to have and need to continue to have.

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In the community here, thank you, sir great question. Carlson yeah, I just want to quickly say thank you.

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To both of you for your leadership, your vision and your persistence- and I know that you all represent.

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You're, representing, I think, four groups here today and collectively you all have hundreds, if not.

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Thousands of supporters of volunteers and donors throughout our region, so I want to give a thanks.

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To them also for all their efforts. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. Thanks for coming.

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We appreciate it very much. Next up is item 4 fdot do we have who do we have from fdot here today.

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Are they on the line maybe or is f dot uh virtual.

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Yeah, that item is after public comments good morning, council. This.

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I just wanted to open up and introduce ginger the fda presenter.

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All right, thank you very much. uh Earlier last year, uh council had requested that fda come in.

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And present their various activities and projects within the city of tampa- and this is part of that.

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Presentation and we have ginger regaldo, who is the manager of their walk bike program uh for district.

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Seven and she will present uh as our state partner on some activities and projects that are going on.

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uh Within the city- and these are state projects, so at this point I will hand it over to ginger.

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Take it away thanks all right, ginger, you have uh now your 10 minute presentation go ahead morning.

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Everybody thank you vic for that introduction. I hope you're all doing well and happy new year.

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My presentation gonna be put up there. It is.

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um As vik said, I am the bicyclist and pedestrian program manager for the department of.

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Transportation, traffic, ops and I'll try and move through this as quickly as possible. So next slide.

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So the department of transportation conducted a pedestrian safety and road safety audit.

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Study along busch boulevard and part of that that we conducted allowed us to determine the locations.

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For the four pedestrian hybrid beacons that we placed along the corridor and part of the study.

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That we did allowed us to pick our walk bike, drive initiative and allowed us to do the education.

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Campaign in conjunction with qatar for the center for urban transportation, as most people know it.

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Next slide, so here is a map of the corridor that we used and it did. We determine the four.

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Locations using the cdms system or the crash management system, and uh we determined that.

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The four locations that we were going to put the pedestrian hybrid beacons were north 12th.

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Street north brook street north pawnee avenue and overlook drive part of the neighborhoods.

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That are in this area are saltwater, springs, university square, terrace park and temple.

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Crest and these are covered by councilman goods, which is district, 5 and council member.

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Vieira, which is district 7, and we used these uh the cdms system to determine the high crash.

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Areas- and we also determined where what were the draws for pedestrians and bicyclists and.

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That's how we determine where we were going to put the pedestrian hybrid beacons next slide.

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So when we're doing our education and outreach, we not only want to reach the motorists we want.

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To reach the pedestrians bicyclists, the residents, the people traveling through.

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The area and we want to work in conjunction with the businesses in the area.

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It's highly important that we do this education as holistically as possible.

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And we thought we did a pretty good job with that next slide.

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We did it in two phases: we did it as part of the actual work zone when the construction was.

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Taking place and we sent out oversized flyers, we did it in english and in spanish, and we had.

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The flyers that look similar to this and we had it where we told them to take quizzes on the back.

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And we put them in the businesses out there, working in conjunction with the businesses and.

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Got them working with us, which was important to involve everybody in the neighborhoods next slide.

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We also put up billboards, I know it seems kind of old school but they're highly effective and.

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Worked really well for us, so this also happens to be move over month, just with the plug. For that.

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But we were using the billboards to draw people's attention and we replicated this because we did it.

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In pinellas county and it was effective over there, so we used three billboards for the work zones.

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Along bush boulevard and then we used the went from the work zone to the actual pedestrian hybrid.

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Beacon billboards next slide, so, as you can see, we showed exactly what the pedestrian hybrid beacons.

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Were going to look like and they were really good-looking billboards, if I do say so, myself.

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So the first thing we did was we created a psa with using one of the engineers that we had here.

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At d.o.t- and he chris uh craig fox, talked about the work zone and what it was going to do with.

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The pedestrian hybrid beacons and we've rolled that out and now we actually have two new psas.

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That we're going to use- and this is the first time that we're showing them so you get to be.

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The brand reveal of that the first one is from a female engineer here: anita and it's from the.

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Motorist's point of view, and the second one is from our new chair of the bike- walk tampa bay.

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Group everybody should recognize him dave anderson from the tim of a lightning and.

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It's from the pedestrian point of view, so I'm going to take a few moments to.

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Show you both of these real quick next slide. If you could play this first, video.

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You just tap it and it'll. The bar will come up at the bottom hi, I'm anita with the florida.

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Department of transportation, we are installing new crosswalks equipped with pedestrian hybrid beacons.

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On major roadways in the tampa bay region, these beacons are proven to reduce crashes between.

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Motorists and pedestrians: what should motorists do when they encounter one of these beacons.

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When the beginners start proceeds like normal, when the beacon is yellow, a person has activated.

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The crosswalk slow down and prepare to stop when the beacon is solid red, come to a complete stop.

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When the beacons flash in red check to see if anyone is still crossing, if the crossing is clear,.

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Proceed with caution when used properly these beacons help motorists see pedestrians.

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And help pedestrians cross the road safely.

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You go to the next slide if you could show that one too, please. Thank you, hello. I'm dave.

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Anderchuck, chair of bike, walk tampa bay, the florida department of transportation.

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Is installing pedestrian hybrid beacons on busy roadways to help make crossing easier.

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For pedestrians, when crossing the road first press the button to activate the crosswalk beacon.

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Wait for the walk signal make sure all traffic is stopped then begin crossing the road.

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If the signal is counting down, there isn't enough time to cross.

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Safely, press the button and wait for the next light cycle.

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We all play a part in making our roads safe for everyone.

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So I'm going to use this opportunity to shamelessly ask that the city put these.

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Up on their website so that we can push this education effort out more because the more.

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Opportunity that we have for people to see it, the greater the spread of education goes.

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It's important that we get that out to everybody. The department is proud of the fact that we have.

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11 phds, throughout the county. Right now we have the four ambush boulevard three currently on.

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Hillsboro avenue one on florida avenue and three on park boulevard. We have one coming to kennedy.

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uh Boulevard and there's another one coming to hillsborough avenue.

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So back to the education efforts, next life.

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So how did we do it? We used geo fencing which allowed us to.

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Have the cars that were traveling through the area, the message was tailored to them specifically.

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And when they would actually stop, because we didn't want to encourage any distracted.

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Driving by any stretch of the imagination, the messages could be reviewed on their device when.

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They were stopped and it would encourage them to take the quits. As you can see, we had more than 2.

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Million impressions with 8 000 clicks, which is very, very good next slide.

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So what did this do? For us? This gave us over 4 000 links and 1700 people that took the quiz spending.

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Five to seven minutes actually taking the quiz and that's important. We had 88 000 people that.

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Went and looked at it, and that was on facebook, and we had over 2890 that were on instagram and.

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Our actual time frame was from this october 16, and it's going to end at the end of this month.

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That's a lot in such a short period of time of having it out there to the public.

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And some of the quotes that we received from people next slide. Please.

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So if you look at it it's important because they said they love these new lights. It's safer walker.

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Clear indication for drivers- and hopefully it makes the streets safe, they're, glad they're.

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Doing this because people don't understand and a lot of people haven't seen it if you look at the.

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One please continue to do promoting these signals. The first time I saw one a couple of years ago.

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In saint pete, it caught me by complete surprise, and I had to guess how it worked. That's important.

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That we hear this kind of feedback from the public and they we know that we're doing the right thing.

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And doing safety and improving it for our citizens? Part of the other things that we are doing is.

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We're taking the feedback and we're seeing how we can continue to improve so far, we've received 182.

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All of which does not always complementary, but we do take. What is you know.

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Not so complementary and see how we can improve it, that's what you should always do.

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Take that feedback and try and improve next slide. So what do we do with our on.

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The street education, when we're out there, we work with the public and we try and talk to.

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Them about how they should safely use the crosswalk, the pedestrian hybrid beacons.

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And we give them the safety bags, as you see that have the retro reflective straps. We give them.

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The tip cards and tell them how to use it, we give bike lights out so that they're always crossing.

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Safely, we want to make sure that we're giving the information and talking to them and encouraging.

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Them to do the right thing and answering any questions that they might have next slide.

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One of the other efforts that we did is we worked in conjunction with the tampa police department.

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And hillsborough county sheriff's office on speed enforcement cannot cannot under underplay how much.

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We work with and appreciate our law enforcement officers and how much they do to educate the.

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Public, I don't think people understand how much they do and the role that they play in the safety.

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Of our citizens, while they're out there, they stop not just the motorists but the bicyclists and the.

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Pedestrians as well, and they work to educate the passing out the materials that you see here.

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On the slides and on the next slide that you're going to see as well, and they give them the tip.

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Card that I've been showing, but they also give the lens cloths that have the message on it as well.

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And that works to to enhance people's memory and tell them why it's important to do the right thing.

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For their safety and for everybody else's safety as well law enforcement aren't out there.

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To just give citations they're out there to save lives and that's their goal is.

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Education, so we can't do the things we do without our law enforcement partners.

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At tpd and the hillsborough county sheriff's office as well next slide.

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So we have the lens cloth that we've been giving out and we do pop-up education and.

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We work again in cooperation with tpd and hillsborough county so and we hand out these.

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um Informations and we've given out to date, I I want to tell you: it was like over 8 000 next slide.

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So that you can see them they're highly popular people like them, they get them as well. When.

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They turn into quizzes and they do the quiz and they have the option to have it mailed to them.

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Next slide, so on december, 2nd, we had a media event to announce the new phps had been activated and.

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We encouraged the media to attend and come and we had a really large turnout. We had the.

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Temple terrace place there. We had the mayor there from triple terrace. We had hillsborough.

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County sheriff's department, the temple terrace um tpd police, were also there to support the event.

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And we had citizens that came and gathered as well. Next slide.

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And this is the coverage that we received. Did you play that.

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Today, the florida department of transportation unveiled the next level of pedestrian safety.

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It's called a heart beacon, so we're putting them in areas where we know there are people crossing.

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But also for far enough between the signals that it provides another opportunity.

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uh Beyond the scene, okay, here's how it works, just as with any crosswalk.

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Person first, it's the crossing button, but unlike a standard crosswalk, there isn't a traffic light.

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Here so there's not a wait for the signal to change and much like the flashing amber beacons.

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There's no lag time between when the pedestrian pushes the button and drivers are alerted when.

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Someone wants to use the crosswalk, so here's the difference between these new hawk beacons on bush.

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Boulevard and the amphibians you may be used to seeing these have a red face. Traffic has to come.

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Police officer, roy paz, tells me educating the public on how to navigate this new crosswalk.

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Is high on their priority list we're trying to get the word out as much as possible.

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And and uh fdot is absolutely fantastic: they give us a lot of literature to hand out to.

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People so when we're out and about we're doing our pedestrian enforcement, we do hand these things out.

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To folks secretary gwen says the amber flashing beacons work very well with smaller roadways, but.

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With six lanes, bush boulevard needed the next level of pedestrian protection, and this will.

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Give the pedestrian full protection, just as if they were at a regular traffic system. This one.

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Is on busch boulevard at overlook, drive just west of the light at 56th street, but you can expect to.

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See more of these on many of our busiest corridors in town, the truck handsome spectrum day, newsline.

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All right, thank you very much. How much, how many more slides do you have to go.

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I'm done, I just wanted to say thank you for your time and if you have any questions, please.

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Thank you very much. Councilman vera go ahead, sir. uh Thank you, mr sharon. Just very briefly.

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First, I wanted to say uh officer roy paz, who was there with city of tampa police department.

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Is the nicest person you'll ever see um he's just such a? He is such a nice gentleman and I.

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I, and I know we all love him. A great deal he's a very nice gentleman just a couple.

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Of really quick things, I wanted to thank um f dot secretary gwen and everybody for your emphasis on.

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um On on busch boulevard, it's an area of great concern that doesn't get enough attention.

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I think that the the lives lost and the tragedies that we see on bush boulevard.

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Need a great deal more deference, and so I I really appreciate what you all have been doing.

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um Certainly, since I've been in office, you guys have been a great partner. um I think in.

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Improving that one of the things that I'm you know looking forward to and hoping that we can build.

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The uh the momentum to is to get a lower speed limit on uh bush boulevard to eventually get.

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The design uh so that we can get a lower speed limit, I see vic, be there with the city of tampa.

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Nodding his head and vic. Thank you for for your work. You're such a always such a nice gentleman.

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um So that's certainly one thing that I would love to see us working towards. I know that when about.

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A year ago we had the tragedy, uh it could have been a prospectively, much bigger tragedy over.

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At mel's hotdogs we had mel loan, a great guy and a constituent, and just one of my favorite people.

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Come and talk to us on that, and so I hope that we continue to see work ma'am uh in that regard.

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Something else I'd encourage you all to do is to continue to work with um advocates.

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In the in the bush community, including my friend, valerie jones, who lost her daughter, alexis miranda.

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Who was a chamberlain student and while crossing wes bush to get to chamberlain was.

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Hit by a vehicle and she lost her life, I believe if memory serves me right, she was 16 years old and.

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And valerie is just a really wonderful person. Who's had an extraordinary journey in life and.

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Taken some of the worst hits in life, but you know the number one thing that you all are doing. I.

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Think, by giving this emphasis to bush boulevard is to allow the voices that are there to be heard and.

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And allow people to uh uh frankly out there get the respect that they deserve. So I just really.

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Really wanted to thank you for that, and then I guess the elephant in the room which we're all.

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Frustrated by is that that somewhere out there and some huge wallet is half a billion dollars.

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In offer transportation money which we're all just waiting on one way or another and.

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um So that's kind of the elephant in the room. But again I just wanted to thank you guys at fdot.

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For your emphasis on bush boulevard- and I really look forward to where we can, you know- set set the.

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The design in the past so that we can get a lower speed limit because I think we all agree that.

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That's going to save lives, uh but I just wanted to thank you and secretary gwen and mr beaton.

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And everybody else for your hard work. Thank you ma'am. Thank you very much. Councilman sitro thank.

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You very much, mr chair, thank you very much for the presentation today. I'm wondering if the next time.

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That you appear before us and you're going to give us another presentation. If you can check on stats.

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As far as accidents, whether it be pedestrians, bikes or crashes, the concern right turns on red.

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And if we can and bring down those those statistics by turning more and more streets.

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Without right turn on red, okay, thank you vic. Thank you very much. Vic councilman miranda.

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Thank you chairman, you know, most human beings are creatures of habit, and what does that have.

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To do with transportation! Well, when you get to a traffic, standardization and you're looking for.

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The one that says walk or stop and you see 18 17, second 16 they're, so small and they're red.

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And black, you can't hardly tell the difference and I have 20 20 vision with or without glasses.

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The reason I wear glasses is only because I was too cheap to spend three thousand dollars an eye.

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So I didn't, I didn't, have to read up close and I wasn't gonna spend six thousand dollars.

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Just not to have glasses so those synchronizations throughout the city in some areas you see it goes.

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To zero- and it gives you five seconds to drive through and you have others a block or two blocks.

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Away that when it goes to zero, it turns either red or green. So why is that? And why is it that we.

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Don't have those civilizations, there's third world countries that I've been in I'm sure mr carlson.

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More likely has been to some others that have the same thing that are twice or three times the.

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Size and they're white and blue blue background with white. You can see them a day and at night.

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Where these are so small, it's like digital things, and you have to really look at them.

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Is it 16 or it's six? Is it 11 or one? It's just very hard to see, and I like what mr citro said.

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Next time you come up, give me an answer: I'm not asking it today or something but give us an answer.

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As to why they were set up in different modes, why some change as soon as they hit zero and others.

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Wait five seconds so when you mentally see it, you think that you're gonna have five seconds to cross.

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And you make a mistake and guess what there's a fatality possibly can happen? Thank you, mr chairman.

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Thank you very much, councilman uh I'll be happy to follow up with you on that.

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Councilman carlson yeah. I just want to ask a quick question. um Councilman miranda just reminded me an.

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International question that I always have is when traffic backs up at different places when there's.

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Heavy traffic people often will pull into the intersection and then that'll block the traffic.

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Going the other direction and if the british system, I think the european system was used mostly.

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Around the world there's a box that has an x in it and you can get a ticket if you, if you, if you stop.

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In the in the intersection, why is it that we don't use that in florida in the united states, anybody.

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Know it seems like that would alleviate a lot of the traffic problems when there's congestion.

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So if I could address that real quick, though we follow uh primarily.

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National standards and guidelines set forth by the manual on uniform traffic control devices.

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Part of the reason we follow this national standard and guideline.

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Is to have consistency in signage operation and messaging across all 50 states.

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And that is the commitment that the state and the city and a lot of local governments make.

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To following in terms of the standard so currently the way we operate, our signalized intersections.

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Are subject to those standards and as they get updated, uh we we conform to them so that that's.

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Really, uh the gist uh of of the standards that we have to follow and, as far as the pedestrian signal.

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Timings and how they work, they're really meant for pedestrians. Only the queues are not for drivers.

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uh Although it is understood that drivers also follow those queues but there's a reason why we.

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May have you know a continuance of a vehicle phase after a pedestrian phase, especially if you have a.

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Lot of right turns like at florida and kennedy, so I'll follow up on details on that with councilman.

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Miranda but uh broadly it's the standards that we follow for consistency nationwide. Thank you.

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Very much, thank you. Everyone all right. Let's go to public comment. If there's anybody here that.

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Wishes to speak in person here in the audience for public comment. You have three minutes to speak.

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Anybody here in the audience that wishes to speak if three minutes, please approach the lectern and.

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We'll start your time uh greetings everyone. My name is your highness tafarai, um of course,.

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Spoke at a meeting city council meeting of the summer, and you may recognize me of course, in the.

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Last meeting december 17th, of course, so I'm just following back up from that interaction.

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Of course, um several of you all spoken, you know heard the voice that I was coming from.

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Just seeking some assistance in the city of trying to get people together, like I said to.

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Initialize that that honesty, open and transparent dialogue. So um one thing I just um noticing and.

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Just listening to everybody actually so far in the meeting in regards to different programs and.

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Different initiatives that are made with renewable energy, the transportation across on the walk.

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Ride safely stuff, like that, I'm just taking some notes, and I just wanted to go over a few things.

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Just correlation and reference with the angle I'm coming from what I'm seeking assistance on.

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Like I said several programs narratives presented, that seems to be a help to the city um and I'm.

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Asking I'm thinking, I'm sitting in my seat now where's the enthusiasm that assistance that.

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Organization in regards to what people like what I represent, like I said last time, the downtrodden.

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Disenfranchised communities of the city, and particularly black people,.

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But there's a lot of people that feel the same way I feel even outside of black people.

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You know I'm just like where's that initiative where's the enthusiasm with, um of course, look.

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Look look look at what occurred last week in dc. You know with the rise that went on in the capital.

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To me, what that represents is just a blatant disregard of people not being to get out what.

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They truly feel on the inside, regardless of right or wrong. No throwing out the subjectivity of this.

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Of the judgment of it, because a lot of people want to say they're, right and they're wrong. Obviously,.

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Some people are feeling a certain way and there's millions of people that are feeling certain ways.

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But just for the the simple lack of effort, that's being made publicized on programs to get people.

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Together to see what's really going on in here, what's really going on in here, so you got things.

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Like that that's bubbling over and you have um issues and instances like that will happen in dc.

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Like I said you can analyze it from many different angles, but what I see in a simple way is just that.

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People feel a certain way, they're thinking certain things and they feel like they're, not being heard.

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Excuse me, so you have people that just take to the streets and start doing certain things and.

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You got people that were killed, you got lives that were ruined, you know and so on. So it's just.

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A reflection like I said again that people are just pinning up a lot of these things inside is.

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Not coming out um also, we all know why you know some things don't happen in this country. It's.

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The nature of capitalism, it's just pretty much if no capital gain can be perceived to be made.

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The action shows pretty much that no one cares and it's sad. It has to be tied into a dollar.

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Amount to get motivation, but that's just the way that we've adapted in the customs traditions.

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That we've grown up in and just the ways of the world and society we're doing right now.

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Also, listen to what um some people said. Actually I heard a narrative the chance to be a leader in the.

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State the nation in the world when talking to tampa in regards to renewable energy.

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That same narrative, what I'm pushing apart is getting people together. We have a chance to be a.

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Leader in the state, in the world and in the city, you know around us to bring people together and.

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Say look look what we're doing because there's no constructive effort which I'm publicly seeing on.

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A large scale across the city across the state and across the nation. um I also certainly heard a line.

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It's no longer an aspiration, it's a goal. Actually you have to mention that with the energy.

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And I'm like I'm feeling the same way about. We need to get what we got to get.

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Out on the outside in the open, so we can kind of come to a better resolution of these problems that.

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People are exhibiting um also just to wrap it up. I want to actually say give thanks to mr carlson.

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I did actually have a meeting scheduled january 27th. We have and also mr louis vieira, my.

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Representative reached out to actually me and um to try to schedule something, and I noticed that.

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I wanted to actually ask on the weekend she said you travel a lot, but we actually run the program.

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On the weekends, so I want to actually see if I can speak with you directly instead of speaking.

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With somebody in between to try to line that up just to sum it all up, I know my time has ran. I do.

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Appreciate the effort that's been made and reached out to me so far, so it does give me hope and also.

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Mr goodies, I reached out to your office in regards to janelle mcgregor, which you mentioned last time.

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I never got a return or answer back, you know, so um I'm sure she's listening, I'm sure we'll get back.

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To you right away, okay, you're in my office again and I'll, make sure that happens. Okay, sir okay and.

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Like I said, give thanks again for hearing me out. I just need some help. I need some assistance. I'm.

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Not doing this for personal gain because there's a problem in the country or the problem in the city.

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People got to get out with get out what they feel on the inside and out in the open.

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And it's going to be tremendous strides for each one of you individually for the city and.

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For us together, please consider this give me assistance, I'm putting forth my efforts.

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Meet me halfway, let's speak about this and let's push this forward. Thank you very much, mr daniels.

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I'm glad to be here um your name for the record. Oh, I thought you all know me, but you know.

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My name is clay daniels. I live at 3708 east north bay tampa florida. You know I was um we talk about.

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This loud music and it's it, what we don't realize is environmental problem. I hear these people.

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Talking earlier about environment, what goes up must come down, and this loud music, it's a it's.

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An environmental problem, it's detrimental to our society, just like the noise, is very annoying. uh I.

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Talked with uh chief bennett, the chief of staff me many chief have a good relationship. He always come.

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By the house- and we was talking this morning and we was uh came up with different ideas- and I told.

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Him I said this is a good idea. We get a grant from the justice department and have two police.

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Officers work night and day just on the loud music that was, you know congested. We came up with that.

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Because what I was looking at when I went to get my shot at st joseph church, the other day.

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For this virus it was like- and I don't wanna.

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You know I don't wanna lie, but I think it was about 13 or 14 police. Is there.

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And I and I came up with the idea- I said we got these many polices over here or more. We can get.

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Somebody, you know two police officers to work on a live music problem, get a grab and try for about.

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Six months to a year get one at night and one the daylight one in the daytime. That specializes in.

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Handling noise problem, you know and uh just just try you know just just get a grant, try to.

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Get a loan from the just department and see how it worked like a study and it'd be successful, then we.

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Go from there and uh I thank you all, listen to me. I really do. I know y'all listen to me because.

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I think we're gonna get this thing rolling, because chief bennett really cares about this problem. Just.

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Like you all do- and uh I know you're all tired of me coming up here and I'm tired of coming.

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And you know I want to get this thing over with, but I want to be very successful. That's why I want.

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You all to get judy ellis to come in uh the 25th uh noah's free florida. She specializes in this.

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I think she can be very helpful to us. We need to bring in all the professionals and put this thing.

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Together, so we don't make no mistakes, because we did the same thing with frank reddis with.

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City council, we went through this and we spent all this time and now we back to square one. The.

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Noise is bad and we we just didn't get anything done. We need to get this thing done so people's.

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Gonna continue to suffer. Thank you. Thank you very much, mr chairman. Yes, sir councilman, you know.

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Mr daniel, you know, I know you've been a long time, sir, and thank you for your efforts.

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And jumping on yesterday I had put in a complaint uh some of my questions about live music at a.

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Couple establishes on hillsboro during the evening time and I just was happening to go.

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Pick up my laundry yesterday and I saw the code enforcement gentleman who was going to deal with.

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The complaint: it was ironic that we were there, he recognized me and I said well, you know a lot of.

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Problems are happening in the evening time and we don't have any code officers in the evening time.

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And uh he may register that code doesn't have any noise meters at all, uh and I I thought that was.

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Kind of odd, uh so I'm probably going to ask the code enforcement director uh is if this, if that's.

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Factual and true to get back, I think that's that's crazy. If code doesn't have the some of the tools.

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uh If they have a complaint instead of sitting talking for a unit, I mean we shouldn't. If code is.

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There with a meter, so I'm going to put a memo out in reference to that. I thought it was very odd, but.

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I like the idea what you're talking mr daniels and maybe the cheapest, that we can look into that.

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Thank you, sir, and we tried code enforcement. We were scared. Dave was going to get jumped on that's.

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Why we want to bring law enforcement involved when mr reddick was city council, we thought about that.

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And code enforcement said well, you know we don't think that'll be. You know it would be too much.

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On us, because people do get sometimes nash, they want to fight. So that's why he, you know turned.

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Over the law enforcement, they thought about code enforcement. Thank you. Thank you very much.

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Is there anybody else here in the public hearing none? We have, I believe, seven registered speakers.

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At this time, if we'd like to go ahead with those that are registered.

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Virtually we'll begin public comment there. You have three minutes to speak. Please state your name.

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Yes, first we'll go to geordina yamapolsky jordina. If you can hear me, please don't meet yourself hi.

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uh Councilman members um yeah, my name is jordana yampolsky, I'm a resident currently at sulphur.

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Springs a lifelong resident of tampa. I know you guys have already approved this money to the.

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Tampa police department for use of purchasing light bars for the cars and maintenance on those.

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And also, and that's a million and a half dollars, keep in mind.

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Over two years, wow and a hundred thousand dollars for night vision, monoculars.

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Honestly, you guys come in here, basically every two weeks and you.

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Allocate more money- and you you approve this and you and you hail the police officers for their.

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For their public safety- and I just really wanted to come out today to point out how.

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Inflated this 176 million dollar police budget is that you all unanimously approved.

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um And just how frivolously it can be spent all this money that could be spent on the.

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Community, if you guys hadn't, have approved it to go into the tampa police department budget.

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I also like to take a second just to um bring to you guys his attention that the harassment.

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And the targeting of our household community right now, especially with the super bowl, a.

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Month away, um the tampa police department have been given a job to clean sweep them out of.

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Out of view, I guess of the people coming into town and it disturbs me and it just.

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Serves a lot of people in the community who are trying to help these people.

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I I guess I yield my time. uh Thank you. Thank you very much next speaker. Please.

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Next speaker is matthew. Yampovsky. If you can hear me, please don't mute yourself.

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Yes hi, can you hear me yes, sir? Go ahead, sir yeah just I'll, keep it short and sweet. My.

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Name is matt impolsky from the party for socialism liberation. um I just wanted to.

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Point out the fact and maybe give you guys an opportunity to uh give some commentary back.

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About the harassment on the house's community, um there were there's actually like specifically like.

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There was actually a notice posted uh at the intersection of kennedy and, I believe, morgan, but.

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I'm not sure on the intersection exactly but a lot of houses uh of our houseless community friends.

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Kind of sleep there and there's a notice there from the city saying uh for a seizure of their.

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Property within 20 48 hours, or something like that and it just like happens to be right across.

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The street from a brand new luxury hotel, that's like about to be finished for super bowl week and.

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It's just like really dirty what you guys are doing like I know it's like not you guys.

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Specifically, like it's the cops but the cops budget, that's approved by you guys so yeah it.

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Is your you guys fault, and it's disgusting, you know what I mean. A hundred thousand dollars is.

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Going to night vision goggles for our for our cops. What do they need? Freaking night vision, goggles.

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For you like, this is a joke. Like I call you, we call you guys every [, __ ] every freaking month.

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And you guys ignore us, and you guys are just totally cool with people literally starving.

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And dying on the streets, while we get night vision, goggles and [ __ ] these for the cops.

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It's part of my french, I'm sorry, but, like honestly, you guys are a joke. All each and every one of you.

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Should be ashamed of yourselves like? Not only that, like so the houses, people are dying and.

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Being rounded up and thrown into jail, and then on top of that, you guys are responsible for the.

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Murders of jonas, joseph and dominique mulkey, so, like you guys, are murderers. You guys are.

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Sociopaths, apparently I don't know, I don't know what you guys are, but you guys are a joke.

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I appreciate your service, it yield my time. Thank you very much. Next speaker.

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Next speaker is carrie wardino. If you could hear me, please don't mute yourself.

G

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Mr carey wardino, please don't mute yourself.

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All right, I think, he's having some technical issues we'll move on to mr joe rutherford. If.

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You can hear me, please don't meet yourself, you have three minutes go ahead. Thank you.

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Thank you for that. For the time my council members, my name is joe rutherford, I'm the.

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Ceo of grace point here in tampa on the corner: 22nd knee scenery.

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An update of what has really become a uh more of a community organization, a community uh initiative.

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Could you pick up joe? Could you pick up your phone, maybe because it's very difficult to hear you.

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um Yeah, I don't have a phone, I'm only using the laptop uh speaker.

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So you think there is an echo, no it's very muffled when you speak.

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Okay, it's just any better.

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It's kind of the same yeah, it's slightly better, but not too much.

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Phone number: two: we can understand you, sorry, why don't you just go ahead with this yeah go ahead.

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Okay, well, um the the update. Is we, as a community of providers really led by gail rider with daycare.

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Has has really kind of heard of the cat, so to speak. Organizations involved include of.

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Course, gracepoint, uh obviously baycare who's already doing a a a a co-a co-responder model.

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With the law enforcement in pasco county, we have daco at the table. Of course, gracepoint.

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At northside mental health we've had several meetings with tpd officers. The most recent one.

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Was on the 12th so two days ago, and so rather than any of us responding to the rfp, we we said.

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We need to further understand what the needs are in the in the city of tampa uh progress.

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Is moving along well with that we've identified actually earlier this week, two components of the.

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Model, the first is going to be a co-responder or right, along with the app the clinical staff, the.

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Other would be a care coordination so for those individuals who need help be it with with housing.

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Or engaging with individuals, medically or mental health or substance abuse, wise.

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To have a period of time that they're working those individuals in a care coordination model.

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Meeting wrapped up that uh tpd has put together is putting together a map of where most of.

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The calls originate from we're going to sync that up with the various providers, locations.

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uh Our next meeting is going to be on january 25th, so the the overall good news is, I think, what will.

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Be presented eventually and recommended by tpd, it will be the outgrowth of a of a multiple agency.

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Meetings uh in coordination with the temple police, so uh the uh I think the the bad news is we don't.

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Have them all to present, yet the good news is and again I'll again give kudos to gail ryder.

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And her leadership through daycare, but you do have your long-term community providers at the table.

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Working hand in glove with that tpd I put together something that is uniquely tailored for campus.

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Needs uh and I will short of any questions that yield my time. Thank you very much. We don't engage.

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The public, but if you want to go ahead, sir, no just one thing that many people in the public.

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Have asked us to look into mental health programs as alternatives to police engagement. Grace point.

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Known for a long time already has an engagement program, but I met with because I knew them already.

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I met with them recently and and and I encourage folks in the community to meet with them to look.

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At what they're doing, but I also ask them, based on community input, to look at the cahoots program.

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And see whatever other upgrades that we could do and as he said, I don't know if everybody.

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Could hear but they're working on trying to find you know partnership of collaboration of several.

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Different groups to try to solve the problems that the folks in the community have asked about.

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Also grace point has built, I think it's two or three now um affordable housing complexes.

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To try to solve the the shortage we have to get people who are houseless into homes, so.

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Thank you to everyone, who's supporting them, and if anybody has any questions.

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Please contact them directly and let us know what you think. Thank you very much next speaker, please.

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Yes, next speaker is carrie wardino. If you can hear me.

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Please don't meet yourself. You have three minutes.

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Mr wardino, please don't mute yourself good morning, city, council members. My name is carrie wardino.

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I was born here in tampa. I am accompanied by my wife, sandra wardino, who will be addressed in the.

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City council today for me hi good morning. I would like to start by saying the induction of section.

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316.126 to the florida statutes, the move over law is a great first step for.

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Recognizing wrecker or tow truck drivers, and including them as emergency roadside vehicles.

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Making them essential my husband, carrie, has been a wrecker operator for over 30 years in hillsborough.

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County and today we would like to address the city code, which prohibits parking, a commercial.

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Vehicle at a residential property, this has become a major issue for many wrecker operators.

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Causing some to have to give up their desperately needed jobs due to the consequences of this code,.

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Not all record companies service, the law enforcement rotation lists, however, those who do.

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Need immediate access to their trucks, 24 7., kerry, currently, services, five separate law enforcement.

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Agencies as a rotation record driver uh record operators on this list have 30 minutes only.

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To arrive on scene for an accident or an impound or vehicle blocking traffic, the tow truck.

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Operator basically has to have a special license: a public transportation license that is required.

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By law enforcement for rotation calls, they work closely with law enforcement, clearing roadways.

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The tow truck is pretty much the automotive ambulance. Unfortunately, the wording of this code.

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Lumps the wrecker the tow truck in with vehicles such as an ac repair van or a neighborhood lawn.

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Maintenance truck as a result, operators are subjected to continuous harassment by.

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Neighborhood code enforcement personnel- now they are doing their job per the code as it's written.

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Which is why emergency vehicles such as a wrecker, as mentioned in the move over law, should be exempt.

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From this code, we are not asking you to change the code only to amend it to add a provision.

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Authorizing rotation records from law enforcement to be the exception to no longer be considered.

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The commercial vehicle category and be considered an emergency vehicle and be exempt from this code.

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Rotation records work tirelessly in all weather conditions, for our law enforcement.

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Our city, our county, please approve this amendment request, make it easier for them to better serve us.

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Thank you. I appreciate your time and your consideration. Thank you very much.

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Next speaker, that will conclude our public comment portion no other registered speakers.

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Are logged on at this time and in addition, we do not have any recorded messages.

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Thank you very much. We will continue with the agenda before we do.

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How about we break for lunch at 12 o'clock today agreed any uh objection? No all right.

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We'll break for lunch at 12 and come back, let's say at 1 15 or 1 30. okey dokey item number five.

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Mr chairman, is there a um this? Is a first reading on a legislative matter. Normally, there are no.

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Presentations for this, uh if there are any questions or if that is present, councilman.

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I believe there may be a request of the administration to make some comments.

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Or to make a presentation as well as online okay, we'll see uh kate wells is on the line.

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As well as abby philly and then we'll go to councilman dean felder, thank you. Miss chairman.

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um I'm pleased to read this ordinance for uh for first reading. This is an amendment to our.

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Our front porch ordinance, uh which, uh as encourages and incentivizes uh folks to.

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Build front porches on their new construction or to when they're remodeling their home to.

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Add front porches and it allows under certain circumstances it allows them to.

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Go into the traditional front yard setback to to do so. Staff has worked very.

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Closely with with us uh and legal to get us to this point, so I'll be glad to read this for first.

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Wait: wait, wait councilman dean federer. I believe there are powerpoint presentations for item five.

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And six is that correct? um I see a memo from miss feely. Do we have powerpoints on these items.

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Chairman men and scoutcall, this is abby lee. We do not have.

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We do not have presentations on this. What I submitted with that memo was the resolution.

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From the planning commission, in support of both of these uh items, five and six.

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It just came to my attention a few days ago that somehow, over the time and I've been away from the.

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City um that presentations on these items have gone to second reading um moving forward and.

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You know in in collaboration with council, we will move the presentations back to the first reading.

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To allow you the opportunity to ask questions and make modifications, if necessary and avoid than.

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Any potential, um because if you made a change in second reading, then it's got to go back to first.

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Reading so we'll we'll go ahead and modify that moving forward, but these are the two items that.

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You workshop just recently with us in october, then we had some additional discussions on them.

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um And all modifications have been made and those ordinances are before you today for first.

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Reading and we would respect your uh I'm sorry, we would request your approval to that this morning.

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If you do have any questions, both lashonda myself are herein and miss wells is on the line with us.

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As well any questions or comments from council members, if not councilman, dingfield or you can.

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Go ahead and looks like miranda right, councilman, uh carlson yeah. I just want to thank councilman.

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Dingfelder, for uh remembering this from when you were on council before and following up with it.

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And fixing it and it's a great idea: it's one that neighborhoods have been wanting and it'll.

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Add to our social community, especially now that during covent people are realizing how important.

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The area is around where they live, and thanks also to staff for researching and putting together.

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Thank you very much, councilman miranda. Thank you, mr chairman. I I just want some clarity on.

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Juan b and f, uh where it says, um shall be allowed to encroach up to eight feet.

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Established front yard, however, in no time may the front porch be less than five feet from the front.

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Property line: well: what is the front property line from the front of the house? Is it 25 feet.

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The setback, so it depends what zoning district you're in um that provision was actually.

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Addressing where we have front yard averaging so where we have averaging in east tampa and.

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West tampa, even though you have an rs 50, which is a 20-foot front yard, it may be at 18 feet because.

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Of the averaging so 18 and then if you allow the eight feet that gets you to ten feet um if an.

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Average is less than that um in order to be in concert with the building code. We wanted to allow.

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Nothing less than five, so on some of our averaging situations, that's where you would be getting down.

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To the possibility of that five potentially existing, if your average was, you know at ten feet,.

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And you allowed an eight foot encroachment. You would only be down to two feet. We wanted to make.

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Sure, in concert with the building code, when you get past that five feet, you have to rate the wall.

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Differently, when you're closer to the property line according to building codes, so we just.

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Wanted to be consistent with that and not create any hardships for our residents. I understand, but a.

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Lay person would not understand like myself when you look at eight feet, no less than five feet.

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You start thinking well, what's a setback and then when you look at that, then the next.

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Question becomes, I certainly have supported this in the past and will continue. However,.

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I don't want that front porch to become another part of the house as rental property or as another.

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Room, how can we draft it so that that does not happen? It does not allow enclosure. That's back.

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At the beginning, it must remain open on three sides. It may only be attached at the front.

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Side of the structure, so then future councils and future administrations can adhere to that.

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It will not change unless there's a public hearing or something correct. It's in um 1a. It says.

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That the porch is open all on all sides, so it has to remain open and cannot be enclosed. I just want.

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To make sure when happy feeling the rest of us are retired at a young age that that doesn't happen.

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Yes, sir, all right, thank you. Thank you very much. Anybody else.

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Councilman dean felder go ahead, sir. Okay, um miss miranda.

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Mr uh carlson and anybody else good questions. Mr miranda, definitely the original ordinance.

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Precluded uh the enclosure of these and and this this amendment does likewise um move the following.

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Ordinance for first reading consideration in regard to file number 2021-8 chapter 27.

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An ordinance of the city of tampa florida relating to front porches and residential districts, making.

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Revisions, the city of tampa code of ordinances, chapter 27, zoning and land development amending.

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Section 27-159 permitting projections into required yards repealing all ordinances or parts.

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Of ordinances and conflict therewith providing for severability providing an effective date.

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Here we have a second second, second councilman goods, all in favor all right. Any opposed. Thank.

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You very much item number six. Oh, go ahead: clark, ding, felder, yes, goods; yes, maniscalco, yes, vieira.

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Yes, miranda, yes, carlson, yes, motion care unanimously, with councilman vieira being.

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Absent vote second reading and adoption to be held on february 4th 2021 at 9 30 a.m.

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Thank you very much item number six.

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Item number six is also a text. Amendment change. These were the modifications.

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To the west, tampa overlay that were brought forth by the west campus cac to update items within.

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A full presentation on this would be its second reading, but we did just workshop.

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This in full with you at the end of october question councilman, ding felder, ms feely.

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I I had asked you this question privately, but I wanted to ask it publicly and and flesh it out.

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A little bit more in one provision of this change it it takes the required tree replacement uh down.

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From four inches caliper to three inches caliper- and I was just curious- um does our does our normal.

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Code is our normal code. Also, three inches on replacement standard code is actually two inches.

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um The overlay and downtown a couple of them have the larger caliper. I think what I have experienced.

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In some of the projects I've worked on now before coming back, you know you get to that four inch.

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The differential between a two inch and a four inch is substantial money and a lot of.

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Times there is not inventory available of the four inch because you're purchasing something.

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For a replacement that has had to grow longer, um so I think the cac- and I can't.

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Speak directly to that, but they were trying to one maintain having those more mature trees, but to.

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Get back to something that was not as cost prohibitive, so they were asking for the three.

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Inch which is still more than code, but a little less than what they have right now in order to.

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Keep with the intent but to achieve those cost savings. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, mr thank you.

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Very much who would like to read this item before we read mary. Yes, sir, I just want to know the the.

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Rate of uh success, I'm planning when you plant a two inch three, a.

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Three inch and a four inch: what's the the rate of uh life that that that plant is going to.

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Tree is going to grow to full maturity; in other words, it's going to live uh to be a.

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Big tree and what's the cost between a two three and a four inch goodbye, I I don't have the cost.

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Figures for you today, I can bring them to you on second reading. um The sustainability of the tree.

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uh Is typically the same, however, our code does require that maintenance on the new plantings.

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Occur for a six-month period also allows additional watering during that time to allow.

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For establishment of those newly planted trees, if the tree does not survive the property owner.

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Does have the requirement to replace that tree in order to maintain their landscape commitment.

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So but I can get you the numbers in relation to the cost from two to three to four.

A

Thank you very much, ms feeling, mr chairman. I hate to ride this horse a little further, but.

A

A lot of a lot of times, we have that tree ordinance, a replacement value and you put.

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Money into the replacement of tree funds, why is it that uh and- and I think now you can even ask if a.

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Homeowner requires asking that tree to be planted. Have we ever made any any kind of a an effort to.

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Make sure that the tree fund balances out with the money we have there? I know we asked for this.

A

In the past- and if can we get some of these streets planted with some neighbors may not.

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Have the money to do so, and it's planted there uh with the money that that's in the tree fund.

S

I don't know that the tree trust fund is allocated in that way. I would have to look back that I mean.

S

um Having just completed my own home, we planted on site and then we owed some additional inches. We.

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Planted them in the adjacent right away, which code requires our neighbor just paid into the trust.

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Fund for 19 trees, so it is a different mechanism, but let me I would like the opportunity to look.

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Into the trust fund and get you that information, but I don't believe it is utilized in a hardship.

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Mannerism in order for one neighbor to be, um I appreciate it. I appreciate that very much as you.

A

Understand we don't have a running total every day on how many trees we have and how much we have. We.

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Don't have that running toy and I appreciate that. But maybe you can get between first and second.

A

Reading, thank you. I can do that. Thank you very much. Councilman moreno. Would you like to read this.

G

Item, uh mr chairman, I'll read it. Thank you very much. Yes. Sir item number six file, number 2021-8.

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Chapter 27 order being presented for first reading consideration ordinance in the city of tampa.

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Florida related to the west hamp overlay district, develop and design standards, making revision to.

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The city of tampa code of ordinances, chapter 27, zoning and land development amending section.

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27-241 west hamp overlay, district development, design standards repeating all ordinances or.

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Parts of ordinance and conflict providing for severability providing an effective date. Second,.

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We have a motion from councilman miranda: secretary councilman, goodes roll call, vote, ding, felder.

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Yes, goods, yes, maniscalco, yes, vieira sitro, yes, miranda, yes, carlson! Yes, motion care, unanimous.

B

Me with council member vieira being abstinent vote second reading and adoption to be held on february.

B

4Th 2021 at 9 30 a.m. Thank you very much. Can I say also this one. This one was a lot of work by.

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Staff also engaging the public. And it's something that that lots of neighborhoods and.

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Communities want so thank you also to staff and the community for their participation.

G

Thank you very much, sir. Next up, we have a historic preservation, property tax exemption.

G

Application item number seven.

J

I don't believe, there's a presentation on that. That's normally done at the second reading at.

J

The public hearing all right, I saw mr villa there- this is for a uh building at 1715 east.

G

Columbus drive: do you have any questions or comments from council members? There's mr veal.

G

Mr vila, which building is this this was a building that was relocated as part of the whiting of.

B

I-4, it was a joint effort by fdot and the city of tampa and it was moved from 14th avenue to.

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Columbus drive as part of the design styles overall master plan concept for ybor city. They.

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Have relocated I'd, say, probably 20 architects to the building and then they annexed this building.

B

Here it was in a deteriorated state and they did a wonderful job. So during second reading I'll.

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Do a brief presentation at that time, very good. Any questions or comments from council members.

G

Councilman sitra, would you mind reading item number seven? Yes, thank you very much, mr chair.

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File number e2021-hf27 ordinance being presented for first reading, consideration and ordinance.

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Approving an historic preservation, property tax exemption application relative to the.

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Restoration, renovation and rehabilitation of a certain property owned by design styles.

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Architecture located at 1715, east columbus drive tampa florida in the ybor city, historic district.

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Based upon certain findings providing for notice of the property appraiser of hillsborough county.

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Providing for several ability providing for repeal of all ordinances in conflict, providing.

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An effective second, we have a motion from councilman sitro, second councilman miranda, roll.

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Paul vote: ding felder; yes, goods; yes, maniscalco, yes, vieira sitro; yes, miranda, yes, carlson! Yes,.

B

Motion care unanimous meet with council member vieira being absent vote second reading adoption.

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To be held on february, 4th 2021 at 9 30 a.m. Thank you very much. Item number eight has been continued.

G

Item number: nine ties in with item number. 88. Item number: nine. uh I believe there is uh because it.

G

Ties in with 88 will there be a presentation on this, mr chairman, if it's the council's pleasure.

J

If there's a presentation, that's a plan for item number, 88 I'll, take a look at the addendum and see.

J

If it's listed, yes, I believe there is a powerpoint for number 88. So if you wish to hold number.

J

uh Nine to eight until you hear number 88, that's uh that'll be able to hear that and move it after.

J

The presentation all right we'll do that move to hold number nine to eighty-eight come on.

G

Okay, okay, that's fine! uh We have a motion from councilman miranda, secretary, councilman, goose,.

G

All in favor all right so we'll take that most likely after lunch. If it's sooner it's sooner.

G

Public safety committee consent agenda items, number 10, 11 are tied together.

G

Just as an fyi councilman sitro items 10 through 15, sir. Thank you, mr chair. I want to move items.

K

Number 10 through 15.. Second, we have emotion from councilman citroen, councilman miranda, all in favor.

G

Aye aye any opposed all right items uh 16 through 22 items, 17 and 18 are tied together.

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This is council member goods go ahead, sir, so let's move adam 16 through 22.. Second, we have a motion.

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From councilman good, second from councilman sitro, all in favor aye, any opposed all right. Next up is.

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Public works with councilmember ding felder items 23-37. I just wanted to comment on item 16 looks.

M

Kind of exciting down in gadsden park, which is down there by mcdill air force base, they'll, looks.

M

Like they're going to be putting on water ski shows. Oh so that's about time. That's kind of neat.

G

I remember item number 37. We um we had continued that so my mistake, it was through item number.

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36 that we're moving and mr chairman, thank you. I'll move items 23 through 36 item 37 continued.

M

We have my accountant, ding federer, councilman miranda, all in favor all right, any opposed all.

G

Right next up, councilmember miranda of the finance committee, 38-41 chairman blue items, 38-41 second.

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We have a motion from council member miranda with the second council member citroe, all in favor.

G

All right any opposed next up is council, member carlson building zoning and preservation committee.

G

Items 43-62, but I believe council member carlson would like to make some comments on item number.

G

48. is it 48, sir yeah? Just briefly, um if you for anyone who's reading the agenda, there are.

H

There are really important things on the consent agenda sometimes, and I mean they're all important.

H

But some really big projects that took a lot of time and we should make sure we give credit.

H

uh We've heard folks this morning and other times talk to us about helping the houseless or homeless.

H

And it happens that chief bennett has a lot of experience in that from pinellas county.

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And he's been working diligently behind the scenes and there's a whole team of.

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People who have been working on this, including carol post and I think abby, feely and kayon.

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And so, thanks to everybody who has put this together, it's not the final solution, but.

H

But they're working diligently to try to solve this big gap. We have of a 50 000 unit um shortage.

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Of homes, but also uh finding temporary places for people to live uh so that they can transition and.

H

And not have to um to live in conditions that that are not really livable so anyway, I just.

H

Wanted to say thank you to everybody for working on that and councilman carlson before you make.

G

Your motion- I forgot to mention that item number 46 needs to be continued to march 4th so I'll make.

G

A motion could continue, make that as two separate motions. Please, yes, sir, if we can get a motion to.

J

Move all right motion from council member goods to continue to march forth. Item number 46. Second, from.

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Councilman c trial in favor all right, any opposed all right, councilman carlson through 45 and then.

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I guess I'd like to move 42 through 45 and then 47 through 62.. Second.

G

All right, we have emotional councilman, carlson, second from council member miranda, all in favor.

G

Aye any opposed all right. Next up is transportation committee, which would be vice.

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Chair council member goods 63-67, we have motion from councilman good. Do we have a second second.

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Councilman miranda, all in favor, all right all right any opposed. Okay, we have an item number 68.

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To be set uh a review hearing to be scheduled for march 4th 2021 at 10 30 a.m,.

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Chairman motion from council member miranda, second from council member sietra, all in favor.

G

Aye any opposed. Okay, we go into our public hearings. May I have a motion to open item 16.

K

Second, through uh 76., so we have a motion from councilman good second councilman.

G

Siege, all in favor, aye aye, any opposed all right. Item number 69 is a second reading.

G

Do you have anybody here to speak on that any presentation, anybody from the city.

G

All right do we have anybody from the public that wishes to speak on 69, move to close.

G

Second hearing: no, we have motion close from council member miranda. Mr chairman, yesterday.

J

If we could just ask just for the purposes of the record that the clerk confirms that there.

J

Is nobody registered to vote on these items? Do we have anybody registered for item number 69.

G

No, oh okay, we do have somebody registered for 69. Let's.

G

Okay 71. I know we have uh miss sanchez chair. There is no one registered for item number 69., all right.

G

We have a motion closed from council member miranda, second from councilmember goods, all.

G

In favor any opposed all right council member carlson. Would you mind reading item number 69.

H

Sure file, number e, 2020-8 ch2 ordinance being presented for second reading and.

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Adoption ordinance of the city of tampa florida pertaining to economic development incentives.

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Amending chapter two administration of the city of tampa code by adding article x entitled.

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Economic development incentives, division, 1, generally section 2-800 definitions, section.

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2-801 sworn affidavit in section 2-802 exceptions requiring recipients of city of tampa economic.

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Development incentives to execute and submit a sworn affidavit, affirming the accuracy of any.

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Required reports to the city of tampa, reserving sections 2-803-2-825 providing for the repeal of.

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All or parts of ordinances and conflict providing for severability and providing effective data.

H

Second, we have a motion from councilmember carlson with the second council member miranda. Roll call.

G

Vote dean felder; yes, goods; yes, maniscalco, yes, vieira sitro; yes, miranda, yes, carlson! Yes,.

B

Motion care unanimously with councilman vieira being abstinent vote. Can I just.

H

Yes, sir, just just 10 seconds again, thank you to um carol post and rob rosner and legal department.

H

Others for putting this together. The purpose of it is just to make sure that if we do give.

H

Economic development incentives that we hold the folks accountable to keep their promises. Thank you.

G

Thank you very much, sir. We've opened all the public hearings. Next is item number.

G

70., if you are here to speak on item 70, please raise your right hand and we'll swear you in.

B

There are no other registered speakers except for item number 71.

G

Okay, can we spread the folks in there's one behind you.

J

J

Could I make one yes, sir, uh for the record um I was. I was sick at food poisoning on the day.

H

That you all talked about these, so I just wanted to say that items um 70 through.

H

76 I've I've, read the documents and and reviewed the cases and feel confident voting on them. Thank.

H

You thank you very much item number 70. good evening. Council ryan manassee, with development.

N

Coordination item number 70 is file number rez 20-21. It's the ordinance being presented.

N

Before you for second reading and adoption, uh the property location was 6805 north.

N

Navin avenue and the request before you was rezoning from shrs to shpd.

N

For residential single-family, semi-detached pd or I'm sorry corrected site plans were turned into.

N

The zoning department for development coordination and are certified and turned into the city clerk's.

N

Office staff is available for any questions you may have do. We have any questions at this time.

G

We do not all right go ahead. Sir. Good morning, council members, kevin radley, 401, east jackson,.

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Street for the record just here to answer any questions you all may have. Thank you. Do we.

G

Have any questions for the gentleman um which one this is item number 70., 6805, navin avenue.

G

Do we have anybody in the public that wishes to speak on item number 70.

G

Do we have anybody at the kiosk? Do we have a kiosk.

G

Move to close, we have much quote from council member miranda secretary, councilman prositrol.

G

All in favor aye aye, all righty council member ding felder. Would you mind reading item number 70.

M

Sure, in regard to file number raz, 20-21 move the following ordinance for second reading.

M

And adoption ordinance resounding property in the general vicinity of 6805 north navin avenue in the.

M

City of tampa florida, more particularly described in section 1 from zoning district classification.

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Shrs seminole heights residential single family to shpd seminole heights, planned development.

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Residential single-family semi-detached provide an effective date. Second, we have motion councilman.

G

Ding felder secretary councilman miranda, roll call vote and, mr chairman just making a note.

M

That the site plan has been amended to include the revised revisions, along with the bonus specified.

M

By mr manas, thank you very much. We have a motion from ding felder, second from councilmember.

G

Miranda roll call vote, ding, fielder, yes, good, yes, veniscalco, yes, vieira seatro, yes, miranda.

B

Yes, carlson, yes, motion care, unanimous melee with councilmember vieira being absent at vote; alrighty.

G

Next up is item number 71. I know we have one registered speaker. um That is mr mechanic. Here we.

G

Have the registered speaker, I know that we didn't swear you in so if you would raise your right hand.

G

And uh I believe it's miss sandy sanchez. That's on the line, mr chairman, as a point of order.

M

I recall this was a little bit of a closer vote and you have one council member who who made the.

M

Motion is not here. The funny thing is we're talking all this for three days of work. It's.

P

Just the demolition yeah, I don't know, wait, please mute yourself. We can. We can hear your conversation.

D

Thank you anyway. I don't know if you want to defer this. If, mr, uh if councilman is returning.

K

Mr chair, mr mechanic, I do apologize. I I do apologize. Mr chair, for the record. Can I ask.

K

The clerk to confirm what my vote was on on this. The first reading go ahead.

B

For item 70 item number: seventy one yeah, seventy one! Oh I'm sorry.

B

For item seventy one goods and miranda voted no and council. Remember: carlson was absent at vote.

K

uh Okay, mr chair, I I could swear that I had voted no on this, but let's proceed okey-dokey.

G

Mr mechanic, yes, sir, uh yes again, david mechanic, um we're here to answer any questions you may.

E

Have, and I would like the opportunity to respond to any uh public comments that you might receive.

E

On the application, thank you I just didn't know if you wanted to go forward short. We are short.

G

Oh well, we have a viera is back back sorry about that. I had it yeah, never mind, I'm sorry! I didn't.

M

See you excuse me all right go ahead and I did have a question. Mr manassey council. Excuse me ryan.

N

Manassee development coordination item number 71 is file number rec 20-63. um This is before you for.

N

Second reading and adoption it's for the property located at 501, north howard, avenue, 2113, west gray,.

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Street and 2114 and 2118 west carmen street, the request was from pd plan development, um an.

N

Rs50 residential single family to pd for medical office and business professional office corrected.

N

Site plans were turned into our department and were certified and delivered to the city clerk.

N

Staff will be available for any questions you have do you have any questions at this time, councilman.

G

Ding thotter, I believe you did I did. um There was a little bit of confusion, mr manas, and if.

M

Maybe if you could put up the um the revised or the the site plan that is being uh proposed.

M

um There's a little bit of confusion in terms of the ability to of the traffic. That's in the new.

M

Parking area to be able to get to to get to the street to the north. What is the street.

M

To the north, anybody help me carmen street or farming yeah, okay, yeah carmen, because.

M

Anyway, if you could clarify that um would is, is the parking lot sealed off? So it's only.

M

Accessible um to be able to go in and out from the from the southern, the southern street.

M

And then there was concern from the neighborhood in regard to the alley.

M

If they can access the alley, then somehow another there was concern that that.

M

You know that the traffic instead of just coming in and out of the street at the bottom there.

M

That they would come in and out of the alley and create a dangerous situation for the.

M

Neighborhood, you know going in and out of that alley. So if you could clarify both of those ryan.

N

Yes, sir uh councilman, the first part, is if I'll zoom into the north on carmen street, as you can.

N

See there's a proposed sidewalk and then the 15-foot buffer. So there is no vehicular access.

N

To this north part of the parking, I will draw your attention to the alley, just to kind of go.

N

Into the next question that you're asking as you can see, it's between both parcels that are through.

N

This pd um the existing being this existing south building here and then the existing parking lot.

N

Then there's the alley and also this alley then goes north to carmen street. I'm not talking about.

N

You can see you can't I'm not talking about the north, I'm not talking about the north alley. I'm.

M

Talking about is there an east-west alley? There is right here if you can see where my cursor is.

K

Right, then, that I was just making a point so you're aware that it does go north here.

N

So this alley connects and then goes north here. Okay, so they can go out so they could.

M

Leave the parking lot and go out the north alley and and get up to carmen.

N

Through the alley, the the right of way correct, sir.

M

Okay, that that's a little bit concerning to me, but mr mechanic can address that. Thank you. Yes, sir.

G

All right, any other questions comments. No, mr mechanic.

E

David mechanic, mr chairman council members, mr dinkler, and I have randy cohen here, virtually.

E

And I would ask him to address that remark, but I'd like to remind council we're not expanding the.

E

Doctor's office, so there's no additional traffic. What we demonstrated at the first reading is that.

E

Over 50 percent of the work days in night in 2019 and the first two months of 2020.

E

Over 50 percent of the days had overflow parking okay. So if we're not adding traffic.

E

All of that overflow parking can go anywhere, it wants and the whole point of expanding the.

E

Parking lot is to provide on-site parking and not have motorists driving up and down either carmen.

E

Or gray street looking for parking at this point, I just asked uh mr cohen to speak to that.

G

Mr khan, were you sworn in sir? um You have the alley. It is a public alley. I'm sorry.

O

Mr cohen, were you sworn in? I don't think you were. Please raise your right hand.

G

And you know everybody, that's on the call. I see you, mr ramirez.

B

Do you swear for him? You would tell the truth. The whole truth ain't, nothing, but the truth.

T

Thank you all right go ahead, mr cohen.

O

Okay, the alley is a public alley. We have designed the parking lot.

O

To the extent we can to make it exceedingly unfriendly to use the alley for.

O

Patient traffic patient parking, however, we cannot block the alley since it's a public alley.

O

We have not observed anyone using the alley related to this project, embarking on the times.

O

I've been at the site which have been a handful, that's the best. I can say it's a public alleyway.

O

We cannot restrict or impede flow on that alleyway for anyone who would choose to use the alleyway.

M

Question: okay: question from councilman dink phillips mr cohn.

M

Are you referring to the north south alleyway or the east west salloway, or both.

O

They are both public alleys. Therefore, we cannot restrict access to either of those alleys. We have.

O

Designed our parking to make it very unfriendly for one to attempt to use the alley to gain access.

O

To the parking lot, but we simply cannot restrict it um unless the city were to close the alley.

M

On the north-south alley, you own both sides of the alley correct.

O

No, we do not own either the north on the north alley. We do not own the east or the west on the.

O

East west alley we own a portion on the south and a small portion on the north. There is a portion.

O

That we do not own or a but uh on that alley just to the west of the proposed parking lot. Expansion.

A

Okay, thank you again. I would just like to emphasize we're not adding traffic.

E

This is traffic that is currently overflow that we are trying to address.

E

So that traffic can go anywhere at once, including carmen up and down if it chooses today.

E

So we are hopefully improving the situation dramatically.

O

And I would add that if we have adequate parking, we won't have patients circulating through the.

O

Neighborhood trying to find parking, which is what's going on today, as well as staff parking.

O

Off site, so providing this additional parking should make things much better and much less.

O

Likely for someone to even to attempt to use the alleyway to gain access to parking.

G

Okay, any other questions or comments. Mr councilman sitro. Thank you very much, mr chair. Mr mechanic.

K

Mr cohen, uh we are here to look at what the site plan is showing us and make our our our.

K

Decisions based upon the site plans- and I I'm not questioning that. However, there was talk last time.

K

Of using this as an overflow parking space after the business had closed.

K

Now it, the question needs to be asked if this is going to be used for overflow, because of.

K

What was done in prior history to to uh businesses that have opened up around the area.

K

The the uh residents in the surrounding neighborhood weren't asked how they felt about it.

K

And it I'm now looking at this parking lot, which I know I shouldn't. However, the question still.

K

Arises: does this become a surface parking lot for other businesses in the surrounding area?.

K

And if so, how could it be regulated in such a way that the residences that surround this.

K

Parking lot aren't affected by noise by lights at night by different.

K

Causes by this parking lot being used- and I use quotation marks after hours- I I I it's tough. It's.

K

It's going to be tough for me to vote yes on this. When those questions haven't been answered to me,.

K

Properly, I know we're supposed to be looking at the site plans. I know we're supposed to be looking.

K

At the hours of operation- and you have a dog on good point by saying this- is overflow parking.

K

For the business, but this is also more than likely going to be used for overflow parking by such.

K

Places at the as the jcc across the street and a couple restaurants to the north of this property.

K

Which means now the city is going to have to be concerned about pedestrians, walking back and forth.

K

Across armenia avenue, which is a highly traveled street, both day and night, so I just have some.

K

Questions that that I'm not comfortable with, because I haven't heard the proper answers.

E

May I respond yes, sir um david mechanic, um there was a lengthy discussion at council.

E

First reading my client authorized me to tell you that he has no intention of leasing or renting.

E

Or allowing people to use the parking lot other than his patients and employees.

E

Council debated whether or not to restrict my client's use of the parking lot to patients and.

E

Employees- and we also stated for the record that we agreed with that, and we would agree.

E

To a condition to that effect, however, the motion specifically excluded that particular restriction.

K

And mr sheriff I may please very quickly and and, and that is is- is still going through my head, mr.

K

Mechanic- and I realize that unless you put up some sort of fence about it, you can't control.

K

That the business owner can't control that and they're more than likely there's going to be.

K

People parking there, which is not a fault of the business owner or the property owner. It's just how.

K

Can we contribute control? My client can control. If there are trespassers on the property they can.

E

Have those cars towed away, and it would certainly be his intention to do that.

E

Because he wants the parking for his own office and his own patience, he doesn't want other people.

E

To be used again, I have heard from residences around the area of homeowners associations and.

K

This is a major concern of theirs.

J

And, mr chairman, I'm sorry if I can just for the record interrupt uh before mr mechanic.

J

Has an opportunity to complete his discussion um again: martin shelby city council attorney.

J

Council, I just want to twofold number: one is to remind you uh and to state for the record uh that.

J

um This is a second public hearing and you had the opportunity to to get new communications and new.

J

um uh Evidence to be heard at the meeting and mr mechanic will certainly have an opportunity to.

J

To address those and rebut those, if that's his um his choice but for the purposes of the record.

J

I want to just be clear of two things. Number one is that written materials that have been.

J

Submitted and received have both been distributed to city council and have been uploaded to sire.

J

And is available for public inspection uh prior to this hearing, that's number one.

J

So for the first purpose, I would ask that those comments and um and the record be received and.

J

Filed those communications that have been sent to city council move to receive a file.

K

Second, we have emotional councilman citrus from councilman goodz, all in favor aye aye, any opposed.

J

And again, just for the purposes of the clarity of the record with regard to ex parte communications.

J

Then I would ask council to state on the record: have there been any ex parte communications other.

J

Than the written communications that have taken place in this case, and also if that is the case to.

J

Please designate with whom something was discussed and what was the subject of that communication.

J

So I asked council now: have there been any ex parte communications that need to be disclosed.

J

I see none for the record, mr chairman, thank you very much, mr chairman. Councilman goodes.

C

At the first hearing, uh I believe the reason that it was not entered into the plans with mr manasseh.

C

Because we could not, I had no authority to control that situation. I believe that's why that was not.

C

Entered into the original plan, when that was when I was brought up, am I correct mr mcnasty.

D

Actually, kate wells, chief assistant city attorney- if I I may respond to that, there was a lot of.

D

Discussion at first reading back in december with regard to conditions that would attach to how the.

D

Establishment would be operated as opposed to how the land would be developed and the the challenge.

D

Presented with the conditions proposed by the applicant was it's their enforceability. How would.

D

The city um enforce a parking issue at night when code enforcement typically does not work.

D

In the evenings, who would the neighborhood call and recognizing that any conditions imposed with.

D

This rezoning run with the land they would apply, regardless of the type of establishment operated.

D

Here and we after first reading, I met with abby, feely and ryan manassee to discuss this situation.

D

Especially as as it could apply to other similar situations in the future,.

D

And it is the city's recommendation that, when imposing conditions of approval.

D

With the rezoning, those conditions really need a focus on the land, development regulations and and.

D

Not the operation of the business and if council does not typically control or regulate the hours.

D

Of operation for other similar establishments, we would caution against including those conditions.

D

In the rezoning approval, primarily because of the challenge the city would have in enforcing it,.

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And by imposing those conditions, city council is creating an expectation for the neighborhood that.

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There is an enforcement and easy enforcement mechanism when, in fact, there would not be.

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So that that is the reason I believe or that I recall that the condition offered up by the.

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Applicant was not included in council's motion in december. Thank you, ms wells.

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Thank you very much anything else before we go to public comments, mr mechanic, if he.

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Wishes to address council before you go to public comment, not at this time. I'd just like to respond.

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To additional comments and questions, thank you. Thank you very much. All right. I see three people.

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Lined up that have been sworn in for public comment: carlos ramirez, your first go-ahead, sir.

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uh First, I'd like to say that there have been uh five of my neighbors who have.

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Given up their time, so I can continue talking so I should have a total of eight minutes and I have.

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That documentation, if it's needed, mr shelby, can we allow speaker waiver forms in a virtual format.

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uh Sir, actually speaker waiver forms for the purposes of what would be a physical speaker.

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Waiver form with having to have people virtually present has been suspended per council's rules.

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And resolution during the state of emergency so basically rule six b applies. If council wishes to.

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Have somebody do that? Virtually, that being, is how they would have that right to uh to.

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Otherwise speak if they came down, uh you could give one additional minute for each.

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Speaker that uh uh waves, uh maybe for the purpose of the record, mr ramirez, could state the names.

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Of those people so council would know so they wouldn't be able to wave themselves multiple times.

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And then council could have that level of comfort or can council can just.

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See what is reasonably needed to be able to have the um petitioner have due process.

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Another petition of the uh the participant have due process and then make a determination. I.

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Can read the actual rule, but it's ultimately council's decision as to how much additional.

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Time to grant and mind you that if council does grant additional time in order to afford the.

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Petition or due process, the petitioner may then also request additional time, so you have to be.

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Respectful of that as well, okay, who are the people that have waived their time for you, mr ramirez.

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uh I have aaron anderson jennifer thompson, can free ocana, sarah, garcia and jonathan hendrick.

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Okay, the emails were all sent to mr shelby. Okay, do we have any objection to allowing this.

G

Additional time council, mr mechanic, mr mechanic, any objection, no, sir, all right go ahead. Mr ramirez.

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Then you have your eight minutes. Thank you, sir. I'm going to show my screen here. Real, quick, okay,.

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Let me know when you can see: yes, we can, we can see it go ahead and I see the names of the people.

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Thank you, sir. uh My name is carlos ramirez 2103 west carmen street. I'm the vice president.

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And the representative of the north high park, civic association and I'm the liaison for the.

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Neighborhood watch. I am also north high park alliance's representative for the west campus.

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Cracac and I chair the infrastructure subcommittee, I am also a professional engineer registered.

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In the state of florida and hold a professional traffic operations, engineering certificate or ptoe.

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Pito some people call it. The ptoe is the highest leveling licensing available in the.

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Field of traffic engineering- currently there are approximately only 3 000 licensed ptoes in the.

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Us and canada, so I've spent the last two decades practicing transportation, engineering and safety.

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We walk past this parking lot every day. It is never full, usually when we see cars that are.

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Parked on the street, they belong to the law firm across the street or for special events in the jcc.

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We have concerns of the proposed expansion of the existing parking lot onto three residential lots.

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One of them being a double lot, which was mr topless home before so that's the potential.

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Of four single-family homes that could be put back into this community into this neighborhood.

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Here is the latest site plan, I'm going to speak of the site brand that was submitted on december 21st.

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Just to make it a little bit easier, I've added some shading, so you can see the applicant's.

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Building, along with the parking lot and the two existing houses are going to be torn down for the.

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Parking lot, I added the public right away on this slide, so you can see that we do have.

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A valley all the way to carman north, and it goes all the way to albany to the east.

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I have a large suv vehicle and I can go through this alley with no problems whatsoever.

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Circled in red are the two existing mentioned, the existing exits or two exits mentioned in the.

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Report- this is what the waiver is for, if we were just to use those two exits for the 29 vehicles.

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On that northern parking lot not worrying about the rest of the parking lot, but.

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Just that northern parking lot we're gonna have a queue of 17 cars on site.

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So the cars would have to wait to exit onto gray and with the entrance being so close.

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To howard, as you can see there on the left, uh there will be a backup of cars uh waiting on.

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A gap on howard, so they can make a right to go north or go straight through the intersections.

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To armenia to go south from these one-way pairs uh that same intersection, I brought last time.

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That has 12 crashes in the past five years. Of course, we know that is not what's going.

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To happen, whether it's patients or staff from the practice during business hours or other.

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Non-Residential uses during off hours, cars are not going to wait in this line to exit onto gray.

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Street there are other ways the cars will leave. This proposed parking lot as brought up earlier.

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Cars will be using their access to the paved alley to go into the local streets and filter.

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Through our community, mainly using gray and carbon to access albany to go north or south to kennedy,.

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And again, remember: howard only goes one way so they're limited to that movement. There.

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uh We went around and looked at similar businesses. This is a comparison to see.

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How much parking other businesses eye doctors have.

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We went and saw mcdill there are three physicians 35 parking spots on top armenia, 10 physicians, 47.

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Parking spaces florida eye specialists had 7 with 56 parking spots. The eye clinic has 11.

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Doctors and they only have 59 parking spaces. I want to remind you.

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The applicant has, I believe, five physicians on site and they're asking for 70 plus parking spots.

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Some area improvements around this by the city around here first is the city's green spine.

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Project which is under construction right now, along cass street, and it goes from howard all.

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The way to ebor this project once completed will encourage and facilitate bicycle travel through.

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Its barrier-separated bike lanes this project will connect the communities on both sides of the river.

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Bringing new people to this area to visit the new businesses and the restaurants are popping up.

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Again, bicycles and pedestrians also, the city's mobility department has assigned grey street.

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As a greenway from the west from west shore, all the way to rome.

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This means that grey street will get the complete street treatment of sidewalks and shared bikeways.

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Gray street has been chosen because it's a direct connection between rome and west shore.

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There are a lot of pds that have gone on that have added multi-family housing, so there's.

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Also, a lot of traffic, so that's going to help alleviate that area as part of the redesigned.

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Howard armenia quarters the county at the request of the city of tampa, will add three new crossings.

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At the corners of howard and gray, armenia and gray and howard and cass, the collaboration between the.

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City and the county have resulted in fulfilling the needs of the neighborhood for safe passage.

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Across these busy streets brought up earlier to easily access the jcc and villa brothers park.

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Here are two snippets of the letters sent by the city to the county that includes the locations.

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And justifications for the new safety features. Please note on the far right column that there.

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Is a history of accidents, including pedestrian and bicycle? Those are what we call vulnerable users.

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Expanding the parking lot would exasperate the already dangerous and congested conditions here.

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And lastly, I want to bring up the mayor's vision, zero plan, which the main objective is to have zero.

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Pedestrian crashes in 2021., the rezoning in our neighborhood, is nothing new. We have gone through.

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This before sometimes, we are able to successfully fight to conserve our community most times we are.

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Not councilman dingfielder and miranda. You may remember the lot to the west of the alley in 2008.

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That building was going to be a tn coffee shop and we wanted to use the residential lot across.

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The alleyway is parking, the community was against it back then, and due to all the cars that were.

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Filtered through the neighborhood and safety for the kids that were playing in that area, and it was.

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Denied it was about preserving neighborhoods, but you know things. Don't change here in west tampa.

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We are still concerned about the kids playing here, the preservations of our growing neighborhoods as.

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You can see the two new houses that just popped up there on carmen street um our neighbor, mr.

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Tobley lived here at the time he sent a letter against this, resulting I have that he did not.

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Karma street resident jonathan hendricks spoke at the hearing back in 2008 and he's still against it.

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This type of expansion he has sent a letter in opposition he. He now has two kids of his.

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Own and he's fighting to keep them safe. I went on grey street and knocked on the doors and the.

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Folks on this block did not want to see this archimod expansion. There are also 30 emails.

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Some with pictures sent to you that are all against the rezoning who request that to be.

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In the record- and luckily thank you guys, you guys did that earlier. uh We in the community with the.

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Result of these hearings- I spoke with most of you in the past and the reason I voted for you.

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And told my community to vote for you was due to the position on preserving our neighborhoods.

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So we ask you to deny this rizzoni on the basis that the proposed law will directly uh will.

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Direct traffic to local residential roads, which goes against lu policy 6.1.9, it will interfere.

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With the rights of those whose property would be affected, which goes against section, 27-139-4,.

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And goes against the transportation improvements being done by the city mobility department, uh not.

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Only that, but there's going to be an increase of cars that are going to create an unsafe condition.

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In our surrounding community, thank you I'm here. If you have any questions, thank you very much.

G

Next speaker is: kristin rose? Yes, yes, can you hear me wait just a moment what happened? I.

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Can't I can't hear the clerk is the clerk attempting to speak good? I'm sorry, I need.

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To sort the public in okay we need this, uh kristen rose was sworn in. Sandy sanchez was not sworn in.

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uh Miss angela, if you could raise your right hand, was mr ramirez, I'm sorry. Yes, he was thank you.

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Please, if you could raise your right hand,.

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Sandy, if you can raise your right hand,.

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Your right hand sandy.

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Ms sanchez, if you could hear me, please raise your right hand.

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So it can be seen please.

B

G

Great uh kristen rose go ahead, uh yes, good morning, council members, my name is kristen rose and I am.

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Both a business owner and a long-term resident of north hyde park, my residence is located at.

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2112 west carmen street right next to one of the proposed lots and my special events. Business is.

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Located on the 1500 block of west cypress street, I was I have resided in my residence with my husband.

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And two young sons since 2003.- I am here today to reiterate the email I sent to each one of you.

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Stating my family's opposition to the plan brought forward to turn several residential single-family.

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Zone lots on my street into a commercial parking lot. This proposal does not appear to be consistent.

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With tampa's comprehensive plan and furthermore, the petitioner, who owns a small eye clinic with.

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Only three doctors to my understanding does not need 70, plus parking spaces to operate.

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Even with all of their employees, they cannot possibly be booking 15 to 20 patients. Each at this.

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Seeing and booking 15 to 20 patients each at the same time to require this much extra parking for.

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Their small business I pass through their parking lot every day through the side alleyway to get to.

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West gray street and cross north howard since west carmen is not a street through street to.

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Get to the convenient- and I can tell you that their parking lot is never full, not even close.

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Which tells me that they do not need this excess parking themselves and instead must have plans to.

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Lease this parking lot for evening and weekend weekend, events to possibly the jcc without any.

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Regard for the surrounding residents, I attached a few photos to the email that I had sent to each.

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One of you for visual reference of my property located at 2112 west carmen street, as well as.

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The petitioner's current parking lot during business hours, I purchased my home with my.

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Husband in 2003 and never did we imagine that a commercial parking lot would be allowed to butt.

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Off right next to our home, located in the middle of the block, we did not purchase a corner lot.

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We purchased our home in the very middle of a residential single family street if this project.

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Is approved my family and I will have to look at a brick wall right outside of our living room window.

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Which will be only eight feet from the edge of our house, which you can see? I'm I'm positioned on my.

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Living room sofa right now and you can see out my window that grass is going to be the parking lot.

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And the house behind it is is slated, was mr toakley's and slated to be torn down.

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Since the projected masonry wall is only six feet tall and my house is elevated, we will have.

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Random people who park in that lot at any time of the day or night, be able to look directly.

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And shine their car lights right into my living room windows. I ask you to ask yourselves if you.

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Would be okay with this project being approved by your city, council members, especially considering.

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The plan is not consistent with the city of tampa's comprehensive 2040 plan. I'm here to.

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Ask that you do not approve this plan and if you do choose to approve this plan, then I kindly ask.

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For you to, please provide an explanation as to why you think this is a good plan to move.

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Our residential street and the city of tampa's comprehensive plans forward. Thank you for your.

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Time and consideration for my family's opposition. Thank you very much. Next up is sandy sanchez.

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Miss sanchez, can you hear me you're good to go? Yes, I was just getting something on my screen. Sure.

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um First, I I also have have uh three members of my community have sent in letters renee champion.

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Jeff ball and haika freehold, allowing me to take up their time, which would give me a total of six.

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Minutes I asked for your approval to use this time. Is there any objection from city council hearing.

G

None go ahead. You have six minutes if we can also inquire. Mr mechanic, mr mechanic, any objection.

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No objection you're good to go okay, my name is sandy sanchez and I live at 2705 west fig street.

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And I represent the armory gardens community that is directly to the west of the north hyde park.

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Community and the jcc I apologize for not having photos, but I was planning to come down with the.

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Handouts but decided against it because of the pandemic. I will be referring to mrs ramirez's.

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Report because he's offered information that reinforces our premise. The size of this proposed.

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Parking lot is not warranted for the number of physicians that are attached to this practice.

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North high park and armory gardens have many of the same issues that we work closely together with.

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Heavy traffic cars feeding through our neighborhood overflow parking from the jcc.

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Narrow streets and little or no sidewalks, we share an interest in the safety and security.

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Of our neighbors one of the biggest issues in the city council members brought this up at the first.

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Hearing is the idea that this proposed parking lot would be a winning proposition for the practice.

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The jcc and the neighborhood nothing could be further from the tooth. This parking lot.

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Will only add to the condens congestion in the neighborhood and jeopardize their safety.

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The parking lot will not deter the 200 to 300 jc guests from parking on howard.

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Carmen great or cass street in north high park, the valet company that the jcc hires for their events.

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Guide 200 to 300 cars into our neighborhoods and provide a six-passenger golf cart, which pick up.

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The guests and delivers them to the jcc: they block our these cars block, our driveways block.

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The side paths for neighbors trying to back out of the driveway litter our streets, slam, doors and.

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Race out of neighborhoods, with little concern for the disturbance they cause dogs, bark, children's.

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Children are crying, they disregard families that are walking in the streets. No one patrols, traffic.

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After these events, remember, the jcc has events for breakfast lunch and the evening they're also.

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Open on weekends, when the new 200 apartments that are being completed on lemon and street.

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State street they will add another 200 cars to our neighborhood. Thanks to the past administration,.

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And those of you that were on the council for approving this, the proposed locking lot has easy.

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Access to carmen and albany and other residential streets via existing alleys, with the petitioner.

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Neglected to mention this that the first hearing is unknown to us did I mention that there are 10.

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Children and one on the way just on the 2100 block of carmen, and it would also be remiss.

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Of me not to mention that the new domain homes directly across the street from the.

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Proposed parking lot on carmen, just sold for 587 thousand dollars and thousand dollars 597.000.

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With the third one being built, this is very valuable prophecy.

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The neighborhood feet, this neighborhood feeds a ranked schools in the city of tampa.

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It is, it is valuable and it is desirable. This unneeding parking parking lot will be built.

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On four expensive, desirable residential lots, wouldn't this neighborhood be better served if.

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There are residential homes, single family homes or duplexes on it. The pros rezoning will jeopardize.

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The safety of the community and decrease the value of the properties that surround it.

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We walk run bicycle to the velo brothers park, the jcc sony's on howard to the julian v lane and even.

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To the restaurants, on kennedy and noho, we are a a community of pedestrians, both neighborhoods.

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Have been working diligently with the city of tampa mobility department because they heard.

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Our voices and our safety concerns and we have reacted by adding four-way stops and new speed.

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Limit signs to help our already traffic congested air, neighborhoods and now they're not much needed.

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Pedestrian beacon crossings on gray and cass, they wouldn't be putting these there if they weren't. If.

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This wasn't a high volume area, 10 or 12 years ago, and some of you are members of the council that.

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Approve the parking variants for the jcc, the required parking, which are 547 parking places.

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And you approved 247 for 47 reduction, these neighborhoods army gardens and north hyde park.

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Have paid dearly for the variance year proof every time there is a major event at the jcc.

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Does the jcc need parking hell? Yes, they do, but on their own property in the on their neighborhoods.

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Our safety should not be sacrificed. Does the t the petitioner need more parking space? No, he does not.

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The decision you make are permanent, they don't just disappear. It's not like changing the color.

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Of paint on a house, if you vote for this rezoning for this parking lot in this residential area,.

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You will set a president to allow other pop-up parking lots. These neighborhoods don't deserve.

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The added danger, please: don't continue to punish them and please don't start this president's.

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As mr ramirez mentioned, some of you may remember that I attended many forums when you were running.

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For office, each of you prioritized the need of the neighborhood. We ask you to honor that pledge and.

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Deny this petition, based on the facts that we have presented and for the safety of the neighborhood.

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Thank you any questions. Thank you very much.

G

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Thank you so much, mr mechanic.

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uh David mechanic again for the record, um given the additional time that council granted.

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uh I would if I could uh uh request uh 12 minutes to respond. uh Is there any objection to that.

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Cutting into our lunch time, okay, I'm sorry about that I'll, try and make it the last time. I'm.

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Kidding go ahead, sir. um I am going to ask randy cohen to address most of the comments, since they.

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Are relate to both the parking demand, question and the question of compatibility of the use.

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Both of which he addressed extensively at the first reading, I would just point out, regardless.

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Of whether mr ramirez is a pe or not, he may be qualified, but his testimony is anecdotal. That is.

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He observed on one particular day or 10 particular days, but he didn't do an analysis of the usage.

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Throughout the entire year and mr cohen, did he looked at the patient.

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Attendance for every business day in 2019 and two months in uh 2020 before covet. Obviously the.

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The numbers would be skewed after the covet uh hit and affected the parking demand and.

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Office doctor's office demand so with that I'll, just ask mr cohen to to respond to the other.

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Comments of the residents and I'd like to just offer a concluding remark. After he's finished.

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Thank you I'd like to share my screen.

O

G

We can see it go ahead, sir. Okay. um First, let's dispel the issue that the parking lot is never.

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Full this is a picture that was taught taken mid-morning on december, the 10th, which was the.

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Day of the first hearing, parking lot is virtually full spaces beside the office. Building are full.

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The north driveway aisle is full the center driveway aisle actually has two spaces available.

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The aisle closest to gray street has one space available so three spaces all that's available.

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The parking lot is basically full parking on the street. If you look at this one example in the.

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Lower right, this is actually a patient parking in the right of way. The gentleman getting out of the.

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Rear of the car is elderly, which a number of these patients are, and the number of these patients have.

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Significant eye issues as a result, it's an unsafe situation for employees to be parking on the.

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Roadway, it's an unsafe situation for patients to be parking on the roadway staff, generally parks.

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On westland, not on grey street because of the multi-use building, that's to the south of the.

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Site over here and that's predominantly their cars parking there, with the exception of perhaps a few.

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Of our staff employees parking there. This particular entity has also complained several.

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Times to the eye clinic about parking on the street etc, move on to the next slide.

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Matter of fact, that's a slide that shows you where the parking is generally along. Westland.

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And generally, along this part of gray and the north side, that's used by staff.

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Let's talk about staff for a moment, um I'll go back to this staff heard various things.

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Of various numbers of doctors and staff at this facility there is a maximum of seven doctors at.

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This facility and a maximum of 10 staff- that's 17 people, that's basically half of the parking.

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Lot on any day, if they were to park in the parking lot moving to that for a moment, you'll see on the.

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Screen that's up. I have three columns over 200 parking over 250 under over 286 percent parking.

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That's based upon the fact that we reviewed patient scheduling and staff scheduling for.

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Every work day in 2019 and the first two months of 2020 at the point where you see the column with 20.

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200 percent, that is when staff is required to park off site. If staff were to park on site parking lot.

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Would be full at times of the day every one of those days which is 95 work days out of the year.

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The lot actually appears to be half to perhaps two-thirds full, maybe three-quarters.

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On these particular 95 days, because all of the staff is parking off-site.

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When we get the 250 percent mark, of course, staff is parking off-site. We have basically 75 to 100 of.

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The parking lot full at the peak times of the day. If staff were to be there, it would be every day.

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288, that is when even with staff parking off-site, we have parking in excess on a peak demand.

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Of the parking available on the site total together, this is 135 days out of the year. That.

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Work days out of the year, which is approximately 50 percent, that if staff were parking in this.

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Parking lot, the parking lot would be over full. um We want to talk about um the particular issue.

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Of the jcc, it is not our desire to park. Jcc parking in these particular lots. It's.

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Not that desire at all, as I understand the jcc is currently building a parking structure to.

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Handle their parking, which is a problem for the neighborhood and a problem for everyone.

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Involved, however, this is not something that will add to opportunities for jcc to park off-site talk.

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Just a moment about mr ramirez and his queuing analysis, you have to realize that that was a very.

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Carefully worded statement by him, his assumption was the north parking lot would be totally full.

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And every one of those cars would leave at exactly the same moment to attempt to create.

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A 17-vehicle cue that will not happen. That has not happened. That cannot happen and it's based upon.

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Faulty assumptions and, frankly faulty analysis determining that 17 cars would be in a cube.

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Finally, if I could suggest something, perhaps if there is concern with the north parking lot, while.

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We in the first hearing suggested and recommended that not only would we accept the condition of no.

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Parking after hours, we also suggested and accepted a condition that the property would be posted for.

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Towing so in fact the towing company could remove anyone that was there after hours. Those were items.

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Discussed at the first hearing, what I hear today and listen to is that the north parking lot is the.

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Larger area of concern, there is a simple solution for the north parking lot and that.

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Is simply to gate the sole access to that parking lot when business is concluded by the day by the.

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Optometrists and the iconic staff itself easy to do easy for a code inspector to come out at any.

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Time and see whether that gate is locked or not, we, I believe, would be willing to offer that as well.

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We cannot do that on the existing south parking lot because of its configuration and how it is.

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Actually uh also accessed by the alleys, I will say that mr ramirez's comments about the vehicle cue.

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That would create the demand for folks to use the alleyway to exit is based solely on the fact.

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Of his faulty assumptions to create a 17-vehicle queue in a parking lot to then force people to use.

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The alley the queue will not occur, the use of the alley should not occur. The easiest exit from this.

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Property continues to be the existing driveway at grace street. That driveway has been taken into.

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Consideration by the greenway study that was done on grey street and the traffic calming issues and.

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Pedestrian improvements that are requested on grey street those all go a long way to.

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In fact, eliminate traffic from utilizing gray street other than to access this parking lot.

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And to leave the comments made that this will increase traffic. No, this will actually decrease.

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Traffic because in fact, we have folks parking on the street and circulating to find parking spaces.

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The patrons will come to this facility, regardless of whether parking is there or not. The owner has.

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Gone to extreme lengths and costs to provide this additional parking to be a good neighbor to.

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Provide all the parking needed for this facility on site to stop the practices of parking off-site.

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He should be applauded for doing this. At the end, I will move to another slide. We went through 16.

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Examples of parking lots of this type that exist all over tampa and are permitted, but I would like.

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To say that in this particular area, this is a consistent pattern on this particular area.

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Moving from kennedy boulevard to the north howard to westland, which is the blocks.

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We're talking about first block commercial parking lot now under construction. Excuse me.

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First, lot: commercial parking lot for years. It's now under construction with facility and a massive.

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Parking lot, this is hardum and kempker landscape and services company parking over here. This is the.

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Williams, funeral home. They actually maintain a parking lot here and here on a grass lot.

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This is the multi-use office building on the south side of gray. That has its parking lot.

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Also utilizes a parking lot that it has approved in this area here, as well as parking along the.

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South side of grade this is the subject site right in line with the other parking lots and.

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Trying to avoid parking that it would have on westland and on the north side of gray,.

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Happy to answer any questions you may have. I believe I addressed all of the.

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Significant issues that were brought up by the objectors. Thank you very much, mr mechanic.

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I would just like to conclude our presentation by saying.

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We we would certainly offer to put the gate up if that made a difference to council again, I think.

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Miss wells advise you that you're not supposed to consider the operational aspects of a business and.

E

So, therefore, our commitment or statement that we will not rent to jcc or allow jcc to park.

E

Can't be considered by you, but likewise the neighbors comments that they assume we will be.

E

Allowing jcc to park there is equally inappropriate for council's consideration.

E

I would just like to end by saying that there's been no new competent, substantial evidence.

E

To contradict the evidence that was presented at the first reading and the basis on which.

E

A majority of council supported this application on first reading. With that I'll be happy to.

E

Answer any questions all right since councilman dingfelder has a question he's in deep thought.

M

So, mr citro first but I I do have a question all right: councilman sitro then councilman thank.

G

You very much there was a concern that whether or not they're leaving all at one time or one by one.

K

That vehicles would be going through the uh the neighborhoods. I do not like to.

K

Redesign anything from the deus, however, I believe it's called a pork chop.

K

At the exits, both north and south, where it forces cars to go in one direction to the other.

K

Would you consider putting those in so that v uh vehicles are forced to go to armenia whenever.

K

They leave the uh the parking lots. I would ask mr cohen to speak to that uh mr cohen yeah.

O

Pork chops would require public works, approval and solid waste approval.

O

Certainly not opposed to it, however, if you're talking a pork chop at the end of the northern.

O

Alleyway onto carmen, we have no problem with that, but it would be a public works project.

O

And approval we could not guarantee it. We could certainly request that a public works of desire.

O

And, of course, solid waste would also have a point in that particular item of whether they would.

O

Accept it or not, um pork chop at our driveway on gray street again we could construct that it would.

O

Require public works approval that one has, I think, a better likelihood of being approved. However,.

O

Our solid waste is serviced through that driveway. So again it would become.

O

um The purview of solid waste as to whether they would accept the pork chop or not.

O

Certainly not opposed to it. Mr citro uh would like to say that, yes, we would do.

O

It but you have to understand it's a decision that is largely out of our control, mr chair, if.

K

I may mr manassee, how hard would it be for uh the petitioner to conceivably put in these pork chops.

N

I think uh councilman uh as uh randy stated it. It's gonna, take other departments to approve that.

N

Kind of uh development, especially if it's outside the purview of the property boundary. As far as the.

N

Rezoning, if you're, adding any additional items like that that are outside the property boundary.

N

Again, I don't, I don't see how they're relevant to this kate might be able to.

N

Help me out a little bit with that as far as the timeline, if you are going to make any kind of.

N

Modifications to this then we'd have to continue out this reading for cyphen revisions and that.

N

To be reviewed by the appropriate departments like solid waste and transportation and such.

N

But I believe it's outside of our purview. That's rezoning anything off the property boundary.

N

Thank you, mr mcnasty councilman dean felder. Thank you, mr chairman. um I'm not sure who to ask this.

M

Question of I'll start with uh with ryan, and I think I might have bumped on this question at the.

M

First hearing: what is the the square footage of the office of the medical office rye and go ahead.

N

I'm sorry the square footage the square footage of the the doctor's office do. We know.

M

And and the reason I'm asking is I'm curious of what the required number of spaces are.

M

For the medical use as compared to what the number of spaces are, that they have right now.

M

As compared to what the number of spaces are that they're asking for so I was just doing a quick.

N

Calculation, just back off of it. um Sorry, I'm going through the site plan as well, um so the required.

N

Parking is 64 000 for medical office use the the property, as is uh 7 500 square feet roughly so.

N

It's like 45, I believe, I'm sorry, I'm trying to do the calculations and.

N

Randy may have those numbers up he's. Probably it looks like.

M

Under under what you just said, looks like 45, 46, 45 and a half yeah, so 70 69 is the building.

O

Brian, if I may um 42 spaces are required. The existing parking lot actually has 32 spaces.

O

So they are short on parking by six space by almost 10 spaces. They reconfigured the.

O

Parking lot at their expense to bring them up to 35 spaces, they're, still, seven spaces below.

O

What the required number would be for this particular site. Okay, thank you.

M

Oh and the last question I had was- and I think I asked this last time and didn't get an answer.

M

Was what is the total number of spaces after assuming it's approved and after it's rebuilt.

O

uh The total number of spaces would be 74.. This is randy cohen, based upon the revised site plan.

O

That we submitted on that ryan certified just recently in this before you today, okay, so so the.

M

So, just to recap: the based upon the square footage of a doctor's office code in a new, a new.

M

Construction scenario requires 45 spaces and the and the petitioner is looking for 74 spaces, which.

M

Is a difference of charlie's better at this than I am, but it looks like 29, additional or 29 spaces.

E

Again, just to clarify, though I think, we've documented the need.

E

Given that 50 over 50 percent of the work days, the people are for forced to park off site.

G

All right are there any other questions or comments um councilmember vieira? Yes, sir.

L

And I know we can't consider this, but the the gate you were speaking about just for my own.

L

Information and for the community listening, mr mckinnon, can you describe said prospective gate.

L

I couldn't hear you yes, sir, the gate that you were speaking of yes, uh could you talk about that yeah.

E

I mean we'd be happy to install it. I think I think that is a ryan would need to confirm this, but.

E

That is within the purview of the pd zoning, because that would be an on-site condition.

E

I believe ryan will tell you that we may have to postpone second reading to modify the site plan to.

E

That effect, but we would be happy to do that and we would the gate would be on my client's property.

E

So it would would be within the um jurisdiction of the pd, so to speak. We'd be happy to do that. Thank.

L

You, sir appreciate it: kate wells has her hand up yes, ma'am. Thank you. I've been trying to figure out.

D

A good time to jump in here without interrupting anybody. I just wanted to remind city council that.

D

The pd criteria starts on page four of your staff report and, if you've got any questions.

D

Ryan manassee can certainly speak to the criteria with respect to the gate that's being proposed for.

D

The north parking lot- that is, an item that would be appropriate for council's consideration as a.

D

Condition to mitigate the impact of the proposed use on the surrounding residential neighborhood.

D

Because that is, that would be a land development condition of approval, as opposed to a condition.

D

That relates directly to how the establishment would be operated, so I would submit to council.

D

That that would be an appropriate condition for your consideration. Thank you very much. All right.

G

If there are no other questions or comments, may have a motion to close we'll close, we have motion.

G

Closed uh by councilmember guzzy with a second second, second from councilmember vieira, all.

G

All right in favor any opposed okay council member ding felder. Would you like to read item number 71.

G

No council, member vieira, would you like to read item 71 I'll, read it? I hereby remove an ordinance.

L

uh Being presented for a second reading, an adoption ordinance rezoning property in the.

L

General vicinity of 501, north howard, avenue, 2113, west gray, street and 2114 and 2118 west.

L

Carmen street in the city of tampa florida, more particularly described in section one from zoning.

L

District classification, pd plan development and rs 50 residential single family to pd.

L

Plan development, medical office and business professional office providing an effective date.

L

And miss wells. Do I need to specify the uh the the gate, inclusion or excuse me if I can? Yes, sir.

J

As well as I guess is here to answer that, but the question is for mr shelby: does your mo well first.

J

Of all, I just want to bring to your attention the um uh the uh additional added comments.

J

Relative to um uh the findings um uh with regard to the um comprehensive plan and the city code.

J

But is it your intention, was it your intention or is it your intention, um uh mr vieira, to.

J

Include that condition, uh yes, sir, uh if that is the case, um I just wanna make sure that.

J

That was mr mechanic, I believe, did state that there would be no objection to that.

J

I don't know whether it's necessary to reopen the hearing uh for that to be on the record, but.

J

That's my understanding out of an abundance of caution. Maybe we should maybe we should.

G

Who do we open? We have a motion to reopen from councilman citro. Do we have a second.

G

Second, from councilman vieiral in favor aye, mr mccann uh david mechanic for the record. We would.

E

Agree to that condition to be added as part of the pda zoning approval. Mr chairman, if I.

J

Can, as a result of that, I believe ms wells did indicate that that would require a continuance.

J

That would be appropriate if that is mr mechanic's desire to do so um and had would have no objection.

J

I'd ask that he state that on the record, so that council can take the appropriate.

J

Action so it can be brought back to council at a future date um to be determined today.

J

um For a uh a continuation of the second reading with a revised site plan, mr mechanic.

J

That would be my sorry, ms wells might want to say something.

D

I get I'm trying to decide whether it's the continuance of the second reading or if we.

D

Go back to first reading because the certified site plan would now need to be revised again and.

D

Certified by staff to show that gate, so I think we would actually go back to first reading and that.

D

Could be done today and then the modifications to the slight plane between first and second reading.

D

But I'd like mr minassi to confirm that as well or if a different approach has been considered.

N

Prime minister development coordination, I would agree with kate.

N

The staff would have to review the revised plan again and re-certify. That document.

N

So I think, uh out of the abundance of caution, to make sure this is handled correctly. Then.

N

um If this motion passes to continue to treat this as first reading and then we would receive.

N

The recit revised site plan from the agent review it re-certify it and come back to a second reading.

G

Councilman citroe. Thank you very much, mr chair, the mr wells from nasi. At this time. My concerns.

K

About that pork chop, if we are going to bring this back to first reason, can I also ask for that too.

D

So I think our recommendation today, if council's motion is inclined to pass.

D

With the proposed condition, for the gate is that it would actually, the ordinance would.

D

Actually be placed on first reading today, um I think between first and second reading.

D

Staff can reach out to the appropriate city departments to discuss those offside.

D

Improvements and how to best coordinate that if those are even a possibility. But.

D

As ryan mentioned, because those proposed improvements are outside the boundaries.

D

Of the site plan, I don't believe those could be added as conditions of approval all right. Thank.

K

You very much you you've heard my concern, mr uh mechanic and mr cohen, mr uh thank you yeah. Yes,.

C

I just want to hear from you I'm sorry I missed mr, um I believe um councilman sitro had a question or.

E

Yeah I'm prepared to answer um for the record dave mechanic again.

E

uh I I think, just to contradict um as well as on one point: we could it's very common in a pd to.

E

Require the pork chop on the driveway entering into the property, I don't think we can.

E

I don't think we can do any improvements off-site okay, but I think we could that entrance.

E

On gray, street could could be conditioned with a pork chop, assuming the agencies agreed to it.

K

Thank you very much, mr mechanic. Mr goods, I'm sorry! Yes, sir uh miss shellman, uh mr veer has started.

C

His motion already, unless he's withdrawing the motion to ask for these stipulations.

C

Because I think a vote will need to be taken, but right now at this point correct no sir, what was.

J

Done was um if there was a condition that was not uh really addressed before the close of the.

J

Public hearing and and the condition is included and we need to took a tissu additional testimony.

J

Additional questions, so uh the public hearing is open and that motion would need to be remade.

J

After a close of the public hearing, so uh as a as a matter of the way, the business is conducted.

J

um That motion was superseded by the motion to reopen the public hearing. Thank you, sir.

G

All right, I I procedurally I'm not sure where we are that's. Why I ask those questions I mean.

G

We close the public hearing and then we take a motion. It seems to be what would be appropriate.

J

Then and ms wells, I'm going to leave it to you, but I just want to see, would it be appropriate.

J

Then, for mr mechanic, then to uh have no objection to this being sent back to first.

J

Reading with those conditions being added and then the title being read again with those conditions.

J

uh Being made and then it be moved, and then it would come back for second reading.

J

With the modifications, uh please address um those questions and and give counsel um some direction.

E

We have no objection david mechanic again question yes, sir, just just as a point of order.

M

I don't know if it's appropriate procedurally, but my desire at this point is to make a motion.

M

To deny that the petition, which would you know, obviously preclude the need to send it back, etc,.

M

I hate to see people going through all the trouble of making changes and having expectations.

M

That, if there's four members of this council who might agree with my motion or three other members,.

M

Then then, let's just put it to bed now, but I don't want to step out of line mr shelby procedurally.

M

um You know, I don't know if there's a pending motion or whatever that that would preclude.

M

Me from doing that, but I just wanted to state, I don't believe the mitigation that's being proposed.

M

Vis-A-Vis a gate or some abstract pork chop that can't be put on the site plan.

M

Is adequate to protect that neighborhood and that's why I'm ready and willing to make a.

M

Motion to deny so you can tell me or mr chairman, you can tell me when and if that's in order.

J

Ms wells, do you have anything you wish to uh uh opine on? With regard to that, I I certainly have.

J

Understand I understand your question um and uh it's uh it's in the posture we're in it's a.

J

Very interesting situation. I just want to make sure that as well as- and I are in agreement.

J

Do you um thank you, mr shelby, with respect to a motion to deny, I believe, there's a motion to.

D

Approve on the floor that was seconded and we got distracted with the discussion on conditions to be.

D

Added to the motion with respect to the conditions, uh one would be to include a gate around the.

D

On the north parking lot and then the second discussion.

D

Was with respect to the design of the driveway.

D

Including a pork chop and david mechanic confirmed for the record that that design would actually be.

D

Within the driveway within the property, so that could be a condition added to the site plan.

D

When I spoke earlier, I understood that the pork chop was going to be off-site uh in response to.

D

Mr cohen's comments, so if, if in fact, mr mechanic is offering up that the design of the driveway.

D

Within the property could address that and that's a separate issue and it could be included as an.

D

As a note on the site plan that that could be addressed and designed during the permitting.

D

If I'll defer to mr shelby on the procedural issue, but if the maker of the motion wants to.

D

Withdraw it, then, I think council would be. It would be appropriate for council to consider.

D

Any other motion, thank you and, mr chairman, my understanding was the motion and the clerk can.

J

Confirm was an ordinance being presented for second reading and adoption, which would then.

J

Preclude any additional conditions um yeah may I may I try to make the so procedurally would I.

L

Make a motion for first reading with the uh with the gate and if, if the pork chop fits.

L

And my understanding would be returning to first reading.

J

Yes, and my understanding is that would require a vote of counsel, which would also require an.

J

Affirmative vote of four in order to move forward on that, and let's then claim public hearings.

G

Hearing motion from councilman citroen, sacramento councilman dink, felder, all in favor, aye aye, all.

G

Right, councilman vieira, um yes I'll read this for, should I read the whole thing again? Yes, sir.

J

Because now it is an ordinance being presented for first reading consideration. Okay, I present.

L

An ordinance for first reading consideration, ordinance rezoning property in the general.

L

Vicinity of 501 north howard, avenue, 2113 west gray street in 21142118 west carmen street, the city.

L

Of tampa florida, more particularly described in section one from zone district classification, pd.

L

Plan development and rs residential single family to pd plan development, medical office and business.

L

Professional office providing an effective date with the aforementioned editions of um the pork.

L

Chop, I don't know if there's a more formal term in the driveway, you may want to ask if it's not clear.

J

We want to make clarification, I'm sorry, yes uh to be uh get guidance from staff. How best to address.

J

Your motion just to make sure it's complete and if I may, how how best to articulate that formally.

N

This is ryan monastic development coordination, I'm not a transportation engineer so.

N

We may want to circle back with randy to if we want a technical term for the pork chop.

N

um uh Traffic diverter at the entrance of the street in question or something along that lines.

O

If, if I might suggest what we're- and this is randy cohen again, if I might suggest.

O

What we're talking about is restricting a left turn out of the driveway onto gray street.

O

So I would make the motion in terms of providing a physical.

O

O

Making a left turn from the driveway southbound left turn to eastbound gray street.

M

Just point of order, mr chairman, yes, sir, I'm sorry um a constituent, just texted me and said that we.

M

Have not been broadcasting on cctv for the last 35 minutes. I don't know if that creates a sunshine.

M

Problem I want us to have a good, clean record for mr mechanic either way. um Like you know, I.

M

Don't even know if there's a requirement for us to broadcast, but since we're in this bizarre hybrid.

M

um I just felt it was important to raise the issue, I'm not trying to muddy the water. I hope everybody.

M

Believes me, but um eric are you? Are you aware of that? Apparently we're not broadcasting on cctv.

J

Could you get your check out of the microphone because yeah we can't hear you.

B

Hi eric hayden city tampa tni department, yeah. We have a fios issue over at our broadcast.

B

Studio, so we're actually working on it right now, okay, and is that approximately correct about 30.

M

Minutes that we've been in 30 minutes correct now you have um those who are participating with.

B

uh Go to webinar can see those who are watching the channel can see it's only those that are.

B

Looking at the live stream on the web yeah, I just tried pulling it up and we're not. Facebook live.

G

Or all that stuff correct, that part is affected because we've lost the connection to live stream.

G

Why don't we do this while that is getting fixed? Why don't we go to lunch.

G

And then it gets resolved all this talk about pork chop. This chair, miss chairman. Yes, sir.

C

I know it works very hard in in the future. When that does happen, could you alert this council and.

C

Chairman, so we can let the public know, because uh I think mr dinklage is a good question. So in.

C

The future could we do that. Sir. Absolutely. Thank you all right. So, mr mechanic, just so things are.

G

Clean can we hold this item till after lunch all right? It's 12 37, we'll come back at 2 o'clock.

G

We are in recess until then we'll continue this and finish the agenda. We are in recess until 2.

G