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C
Well,
let
me
introduce
the
pastor.
Mr
chairman,
I
had
the
distinguished
pleasure
of
introducing
a
good
friend
of
mine,
pastor,
elder
paul
buster
on
june
22
22.
He
was
unanimously
voted
to
be
the
pastor
of
the
new
macedonia
mba
church
in
tampa
florida
in
his
almost
20
years.
As
a
pastor
of
the
new
macedonia,
the
following
programs
have
been
have
been
established.
C
The
global
scholarship
feed
my
sheep,
the
saturday
sanctuary
mission
in
motion
of
florida
incorporated,
pastor,
glover's
affiliate
with
the
hillsboro
organization
for
progressive
in
equality,
hope,
community,
united
young
mens
of
mac
temple
coalition
of
clergymen
pastor
of
united
southwest
pastor
bruce,
is
married
to
bridget
buster,
with
whom
they
have
shared
five
children
and
teen
grandchildren.
Good
morning,
I
welcome
pastor
buster
bless.
Thank
you
by
his.
E
H
Mr
chair
councilman
carlson,
yes,
sir.
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
apologize
to
the
public
and
and
my
colleagues,
you
may
hear
from
my
voice
that
I'm
at
home
with
covet
and
it's
the
first
time,
I've
gotten
it
and
obviously
I'm
not
going
to
come
into
chambers
and
put
everybody
else
at
risk.
So
I
apologize
for
not
being
there
in
person.
I
appreciate
everybody's
flexibility.
B
I
Good
morning,
mr
chairman,
members
of
council,
martin
shelby
city
council,
attorney
I'll
be
brief
on
the
guidelines.
The
members
of
the
public
can
intend
in
person
in
city
council's
chambers
today
for
this
regular
meeting
or
virtually
participate
in
the
meeting
using
what
is
referred
to
by
florida
statutes
and
roses.
Communications,
media
technology
and
the
instructions
for
that
are
available
on
the
city
council's
web
page
and
also
that's
at
tampa.gov
forward,
slash
city,
council
and
also
council
that
just
a
reminder
that
to
participate
remotely
in
public
hearings,
the
use
of
cmt
pre-registration
is
required.
Again.
I
The
instructions
are
available
in
the
agenda
and
it
is
also
available
on
the
city's
website.
The
public
and
citizens
of
the
city
of
tampa
are
able
to
watch,
listen
and
view
this
meeting
on
spectrum
channel
4,
640,
frontier
channel,
15.
and
council
consistent
with
the
agenda
and
the
notice
of
the
hearing.
I'd
ask
the
council
way
of
the
rules
to
allow
cmt.
B
B
F
B
J
K
B
L
Yes,
miss
john's,
I
think
we'll
be
speaking
on
that.
So
if
I
may
correct.
B
Number
11
wants
to
ask
for
a
30-day
continuance.
Excuse
me
longer
continuous
october
20th.
I
believe.
B
B
B
B
Okay,
agenda
item
number:
oh:
we
have
to
open
those
at
103.
K
B
M
M
M
Good
morning,
mr
chairman
and
honorable
council
members,
my
pleasure
this
morning
to
be
here
standing
with
the
chief
of
the
logistics
and
assessment
asset
management,
also
known
as
lamb
and
all
the
individuals
that
work
under
that
great
great
department.
M
Without
them,
the
doors
wouldn't
open,
the
toilets
would
flood
the
electricity
wouldn't
work,
the
buildings
would
be
dilapidated
and
the
paint
would
be
falling
off
all
the
buildings,
indoor
and
outdoors
anytime.
You
come
here.
You
think
they're
in
the
circus
hanging
somewhere
up
in
the
second
or
third
floor,
with
a
drill
and
just
drilling
away,
trying
to
find
whatever
the
problem
is,
and
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
stop
and
leave
adrian
colina
to
speak
about
the
department
that
she
is
in
charge
of.
E
N
M
As
you
well
know,
some
departments
in
this
city
keep
us
safe.
Other
departments
in
the
cities
keep
us
away
from
fires
and
emergencies
traveling
to
and
from
hospitals,
but
this
department,
the
one
that
keeps
the
buildings
where
all
of
us
work,
not
only
here
but
throughout
the
city
in
shape
where
you
can
come
in
and
out,
without
something
falling
on
you
and
these
doors
that
you
see
all
the
electrical
doors.
Everything
that
you
see
now
that's
modernized
the
bulletproof
windows
they
say
is
bulletproof.
M
M
What
they
would
earn
outside
would
be
a
lot
more,
but
they
wouldn't
have
the
pleasure
working
for
you
and
they're
doing
this
because
they
love
the
city
and
because
they
want
to
be
employees
that
have
something
because
someone
else
can
look
at
a
building.
That's
a
little
older
than
me
this
building
here
and
being
tip-top
shaped
like
it
is
so
for
all
the
trades
people
here,
all
of
you
from
the
tampa
city,
council
and
all
the
400
000
citizens.
M
It's
my
pleasure
to
read
this
combination
at
this
time
in
recognition
of
the
men
and
women
of
the
city
of
tampa
logistics
and
asset
management,
department
facilities,
management,
division,
celebration
of
2022
national
trades
workers
day.
It
is
with
pleasure.
M
The
tampa
city
council
commended
recognizes
you
for
your
excellent
service,
appreciation
your
dedication
to
keeping
our
city
buildings
and
parks
safe,
functional
and
secure
each
of
the
34
trades
workers
provide
skilled,
essential
services
in
the
general
maintenance,
mechanical
plumbing
electrical
trade
to
the
various
city
of
tampa
departments,
as
well
as
serving
all
of
the
citizens
of
tampa.
This
talent
and
dedicated
team
ensure
a
safe
and
comfortable
work
environment
for
all
of
us.
Please
know
that
your
efforts
are
recognized
and
valued
and
that
we
say
that
again
recognize
and
value.
M
M
L
It's
very
thoughtful
of
you
to
honor
this
work
and
we
honor
all
the
individuals
here
for
all
of
your
hard
work
and
keeping
the
city
running
on
time,
and
you
all
represent
the
idea
that
that
you
get
up
every
day
and
you
work
hard
using
your
skills
that
you
have
for
life,
that
no
one
can
you
know,
god
willing
ever
take
away
from
you
and
you're,
using
it
for
the
city
of
tampa
to
keep
us
running
on
time
and
for
me
and
for
everybody
here,
that's
a
really
honorable
endeavor.
L
It
really
really
is
so
just
thank
you
guys
every
day
for
your
hard
work
and-
and
we
appreciate
you,
thank
you.
K
Thank
you
very
much
for
all
that
you
do
you're,
always
working
hard,
taking
care
of
everything
each
and
every
one
of
you
are
out
there.
If
something
comes
up
you're
there
doesn't
matter
what
day,
what
time
you're
taking
care
of
everything?
You
really
are
the
unsung
heroes
because,
as
you
know,
with
covid
with
rearranging
this
room
with
upgrades
and
updates
here
on
this
floor
and
throughout
this
building,
you're,
always
there
I
think
you're
some
of
the
hardest,
if
not
the
hardest
working
individuals
in
the
city
of
tampa
family.
K
We
appreciate
you
very
much.
I
know
some
of
you,
I
see
you,
we
say
good
morning.
You
know,
maybe
that's
all
we
say
is
good
morning
hi.
How
are
you
but
know
that
we're
watching
and
we
appreciate
because
we
know
how
hard
you
work
and
you
do
a
wonderful,
wonderful
job.
Thank
you
very
much
and
congratulations
councilwoman.
Her
attack.
O
I'll
say
I
recognize
some
faces
in
the
in
the
crowd,
because
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
having
you
all
do
some
work
for
me.
So
I
appreciate
it
everything
that
you
do
everywhere.
You
go
the
city,
the
city,
buildings,
look
beautiful,
everything
is
if
we
have
a
problem,
it's
fixed
right
away
and
we
just
wouldn't
be
able
to
do
that
without
you.
Thank
you
for
all
of
your
hard
work
and
I
look
forward
to
meeting
more
of
you.
E
C
But
you
know
again,
when
called
upon
you
get
the
job
done,
jobs
that
people
can't
do
don't
know
how
to
do
don't
want
to
do
so.
We
appreciate
the
work
you
do
and
paying
our
offices
that
time
we
get
new
people
coming.
They
want
a
different
color,
you
rush
to
do
it
or
changing
light
bulbs
or
changing
door
locks
or
just
anything
and
everything
we
ask
you
know
and
grateful
for
your
service.
So
again,
congratulations
today.
H
Thank
you,
sir.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
all
as
well,
because
you
all
do
your
job
so
well.
You
enable
all
the
rest
of
us
in
these
buildings
to
get
our
jobs
done.
So
thank
you.
If
you
all
weren't
able
to
do
that,
no
no
none
of
the
rest
of
the
city
could
function.
So.
H
Thank
you
very
much
and
one
last
thing
I
was
looking
at
some
old
pictures,
antique
pictures
of
the
city
of
tampa
a
few
days
ago
and
very
proud
that
this
building
that
you
all
are
in
is
still
there
and,
and
you
all
do
a
great
job
of
keeping
up
this
important
historic
building
as
well
as
the
rest.
Thank
you
so
much.
B
You
know
I
pass
all
of
you,
no
matter
whether
it's
here
in
city
hall
or
out
somewhere
else
and
I'll
look
at
you
saying
hey,
I
need
this
or
I
need
a
coupler
for
that
or
I
need
to
have
this
or
my
aide
needs
something
or
we
I'm
always
saying
did
I
need
something
from
you
today.
I'm
saying
I
need
you.
The
city
needs
you
thank
you
for
being
part
of
our
family.
Thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do.
C
M
Is
the
mr
spearman
in.
M
E
M
This
next
presentation
is
one
that
it's
given
so
often
to
this
department,
because
they
do
time
year
after
year
they
win
an
award
and-
and
this
is
a
recognition
not
only
to
the
individual
who
runs
the
department
but
to
every
individual
that
works
there
and
does
yeoman's
work
to
make
sure
that
this
city
procurement
and
everything
else
that
goes
along
with
it
is
at
the
highest
standard.
M
This
presented
to
gregory
sperman
cppo,
director
of
purchasing
in
the
city
of
tampa
purchasing
department,
in
recognition
of
receiving
the
annual
achievement
of
excellent
and
procurement
award
of
2022
presented
by
the
national
procurement
institute.
The
award
is
designed
to
recognize
and
measure
innovation,
professionalism,
e-procurement
productivity
and
leadership
attributed
to
the
procurement
function,
and
it's
even
more
impressive
that
you
and
your
purchase
department
have
received
this
award
only
16
times.
M
I
changed
that
doesn't
say
that,
but
by
16
times
means
a
lot.
It
does
yes
gregory.
The
award
is
a
testament
to
the
guidance
and
leadership
that
you
have
demonstrated
over
many
years
and,
of
course,
include
the
allocate
that
your
dedication
and
knowledgeable
staff
and
the
very
fortunate
to
have
leaders
like
you
guiding
this
outstanding
staff.
M
E
Thank
you,
councilman
randle
and
thank
you
city
council.
This
award
is,
is
based
on
a
number
of
different
criteria
and
just
to
do
a
little
show
and
tell
this
is
what
it
looks
like.
We
actually
have
16
of
these
in
our
showcase
and
purchasing
over
on
the
second
floor,
2,
east
and
tmlb.
E
In
fact,
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
getting
a
new
trophy
case
because
we're
running
out
of
room-
and
I
just
wanted
you
to
to
be
able
to
see
that,
but
the
answer
council
miranda's
question
some
of
the
criteria
that
is
used
to
determine
whether
or
not
you're
eligible
to
receive
this
oil
would
include
the
following
professional
development
program
for
staff,
maintaining
continuous
improvement
in
terms
of
purchasing
operations,
procurement,
customer
service
survey,
internal
customer
service
training,
vendor
training,
centralized
procurement
authority,
utilization
of
e-procurement
automation,
p-card
program,
the
professional
certification
of
staff.
E
So
these
are
the
men
and
women
that
stand
behind
me
that
really
make
it
work
every
day
in
procurement,
in
terms
of
providing
all
those
products
and
services
that
we
need
to
make
the
city
operate.
So
I'd
like
to
also
acknowledge
my
executive
aide,
michelle
blizzard
michelle
here
she
is,
she
does
a
lot
to
keep
us
going.
E
Kevin,
actually
manages
the
team
of
buyers
that
take
care
of
all
the
rfps
invitations
to
bid
the
contracts,
the
council
resolutions
and,
of
course,
dana
fagger
who
handles
all
of
our
systems.
Our
p
card,
our
wax
card,
our
fuel
card
inventory
all
those
kinds
of
things,
and
then,
of
course,
we
have
mr
tony
mcgee
for
you,
tony
that
manages
our
warehouse.
E
We
have
three
locations,
we
have
water
wastewater,
we
have
mobility,
transportation
and
tfr
and
just
one
other
final
note.
I
want
to
also
acknowledge
the
chief
of
staff
for
his
support
and
the
mayor
of
the
purchasing
department,
our
partnership
with
gregory
hart
with
with
equal
business
opportunity
and,
of
course,
the
legal
support
we
get
from
marcela
hamilton
she's
here
someplace.
E
We
maintain
we
procure
services
to
maintain
the
tier
4
vote,
janitorial
services
for
all
city
buildings,
lawn
maintenance
services,
the
wellness
center
contract
for
city
employees,
the
purchase
of
gasoline
and
diesel
fuel
cng
to
run
the
garbage
trucks,
armed
and
ongoing
security
guard
services,
elevator
services,
plumber
services
and
the
list
goes
on
and
on
and
on.
We
thank
you
for
this
accommodation
and
we
enjoy
our
partnership
with
working
with
you.
M
H
Thanks,
mr
thanks
to
you
and
your
team
and
congrats
on
everything,
I
know
you
guys
have
a
huge
volume
of
work.
We
appreciate
it.
C
Mr
spearman
again,
mr
miranda
said
16
straight
years.
I
think
what
stand
out
when
you
read
the
criteria
sheet
was
number
two.
C
I
think
that's
critical,
what
a
department
like
you
is
to
always
improving,
making
things
better
and-
and
I
can
give
you
an
accolade
say
you
have
been
doing
that
even
though
you've
been
getting
16
years,
you're
still
doing
what
this
council
is
asking
to
make
it
better
and
people
are
watching
and
noticing.
So
we
say.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
sir.
O
O
Your
team
is
already
going
above
and
beyond
and
is
now
going
even
more
above
and
beyond,
and
it
is
noticed-
and
we
really
appreciate
it
and
mr
spearman
brought
forward
to
me.
I
believe,
seven
of
our
contracts
that
that
did
meet
the
criteria
we
had
this
week
and
because
they're
on
consent,
we
don't
get
to
celebrate
them
all
the
time.
O
K
Look
how
lucky
we
are.
We
just
recognized
facilities,
management
and
look
what
a
wonderful
team
that
worked
so
hard
and
now
you
and
your
team
16
years
of
excellence,
you
are
the
consummate
professional,
sir,
you
and
everybody
with
you
today
keep
the
city
running
we're
part
of
a
family,
and
you
know
you,
you
really
make
us
proud,
you're
you're
there
doing
the
work
day
in
and
day
out,
taking
care
of
this
city
taking
care
of
these
contracts,
but
in
a
professional
manner.
K
L
You
councilman
vieira.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
for
all
the
hard
work
that
all
of
your
team
does
we
appreciate
everybody.
It's
such
an
integral
part
of
our
city,
purchasing
and
of
any
big
municipality
and
city
and
y'all.
Do
it
so
well,
and
mr
spearman
is
always
such
a
kind,
gentle
and
just
a
professional
individual,
and
so
we
just
appreciate
every
one
of
you.
So
thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
E
B
B
B
B
C
Well,
gentlemen,
against
chairman,
good
morning,
councilmembers
good
morning,
I
have
the
distinct
pleasure
of
going
to
a
conference
a
couple
weeks
ago.
C
Our
councilwoman
hertek
was
there
as
well
great
conference.
I
learned
some
new
things.
I
was
also
able
to
throw
out
some
new
words
and
and
and
just
hear
what
people
are
thinking
and
then
I
was
told
that
our
housing
department
was
getting
an
award,
so
I
was
like
our
housing
partner
is
getting
into
what,
which
is
that,
and
they
say
the
infield
housing.
As
you
know,
council
had
asked
several
times
about
getting
us.
C
The
numbers
of
on
vacant
used
land
in
the
city
and
my
understanding
that
they
hurt
us
and
miss
henderson
was
able
to
create
this
program
to
start
putting
our
in-field
housing
to
work,
which
I'm
very
proud
of
and
been
to
several
ribbon
cuttings
for
that
program.
So
I'm
ecstatic
and
elated
that
they
got
the
job
done
and
were
recognized
throughout
the
state
of
florida
for
the
job
that
they
did.
So
I
want
to
say,
congratulations
to
them.
C
Everyone
knows
housing
is
a
critical
issue
right
now
in
our
city
and
for
for
us
to
be
one
of
the
front
runners
to
a
leader.
I
I
was
very
proud
to
to
see
that
happen.
So
I
want
to
say:
congratulations
to
you
and
abby
and
and
of
course,
the
new
boss,
miss
travis,
so
without
without
further
ado
I'll,
let
you
or
your
boss
explain
what
kind
of
transpired
with
the
award
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
accommodation.
D
Good
morning,
council,
nicole
travis
administrator
of
development
and
economic
opportunity,
I'll
let
keon
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
program,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
how
much
I
appreciate
this
team
they're,
a
small
but
mighty
team
and
every
week
were
before
you
talking
about
housing,
affordability
and
trying
to
be
innovative
and
how
we
could
best
serve
the
citizens
of
tampa
during
a
really
unprecedented
time
that
we're
struggling
with
housing.
And
so
the
team
that
you
have
it's
just
a
few
of
us
up
here
to
receive
this
award
and
talk
about
this.
D
D
D
Good
morning,
council,
thank
you
so
much
for
recognizing
us,
as
nicole
said
that
there's
a
team
still
back
at
lemon
street,
who
works
really
hard
to
make
sure
all
of
this
is
possible.
We
are
in
our
second
phase
of
our
infill
program,
where
we're
activating
vacant
lots
that
we
provide
to
developers
to
build
single-family
homes
to
those
who
are
at
140
percent
of
that
are
below
the
area,
median
income,
so
low
to
moderate
income
households.
D
In
the
second
phase,
really
in
four
years,
we
will
have
112
homes
that
are
going
to
be
sold
to
those
who
are
low
to
moderate
income
families.
One
of
the
things
I
certainly
want
to
thank
everybody
at
the
city
for
is.
I
really
thank
administration
for
trust
in
the
process
of
the
idea
that
we
have
to
try
to
go
forward
and
convey
these
lots
to
these
developers.
We
want
to
thank
our
legal
team
because
we
constantly
go
to
legal
in
trying
to
get
this.
D
It
really
is
such
a
huge
approach
to
get
everything
done
from
construction
team
and
certainly
being
able
to
come
before
council
with
these
agreements
and
with
these
ideas
to
get
them
approved.
So
just
with
everything
that
we've
been
able
to
accomplish,
like
nicole
said
we'll,
have
info
phase
three
that
will
come
out
fall
in
about
november.
So
we
can
activate
some
additional
lots
and
have
more
people
in
households
for
who
want
to
be
homeowners.
C
Well,
gentlemen,
there
you
have
it
and
again,
you
know
it
was
a
great
conference.
Everyone's
staying
attainable
housing.
Now,
that's
the
new
word
now,
because
nothing's
affordable,
that's
what
I
say
now
attainable.
But
again
without
further
ado.
Let
me
let
me
just
present
this
tampa
city
council
accommodations
presented
to
housing
and
korean
development
division
in
recognition
of
the
city
of
temple's
housing,
community
development
division
for
your
hard
work
and
dedication
to
developing
affordable
housing
in
the
citizens.
C
That
may
have
never
had
an
opportunity
to
do
business
with
the
city
previously
in
2021,
the
housing
community
development
team
identified
and
awarded
city
and
cra
owned
vacant
lots
to
11
local
minority
developers
at
no
cost
in
return
for
affordable
housing
units,
a
practical,
effective
and
sustainable
approach
for
the
creation
and
protection
of
affordable
housing
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
the
goals
promised
to
its
residents
on
the
horizon.
The
city
of
tampa
the
city
council
of
the
city
is
proud
to
present.
C
This
combination
to
the
city's
temple
housing
community
develop
division
who
exemplifies
the
types
of
optimism,
dedication
and
innovative
approaches.
Everyone
admires
respect
and
cheers
success.
This
team
is
a
great
asset
to
the
city
of
tampa,
presented
this
day
the
15th
day
of
september
22..
Congratulations.
B
M
When
you
do
things
for
someone
else
and
that's
what
all
of
you
do,
you're
not
doing
it
or
you're
doing
it
for
someone
else,
give
them
a
hand
up
how
to
push
down
it's
one
of
the
most
rewarding
things
you
can
ever.
Do
you
feel
better?
M
O
Y'all
are
just
rock
stars,
I
mean
literally
rock
stars
what
you
do
and
how
you
took
this
from
the
first
iteration
to
the
second
iteration
and
said
we
can
make
this
better
and
we
can
add,
we
can
promote
invite
in
smaller
contractors.
Who've
never
had
the
chance
to
work
with
the
city
and
give
them
the
opportunity
and
they've
I've
been
to
several
ribbon
cuttings
too
they've
produced
beautiful
homes
that
are
quality
that
people
can
live
in
with
dignity
that
are
that
are
attainable.
O
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
appreciate
councilman
dude's
words
attainable,
but
what
I
love
even
more
is
that
with
this
award
you
aren't
stopping.
The
next
phase
is
going
to
look
at
other
types
of
housing.
It's
we're
we're
not
going
to
stop
trying
to
find
new
people
to
partner
with
so
what
I
love
the
most
about
this
award.
Is
you
aren't
just
saying?
Oh,
you
know
we
did
this
yeah,
let's
keep
going
you're
you're
even
pushing
the
envelope
even
more,
and
that
that
to
me
is
even
more
celebratory.
O
So
thank
you
so
much
for
continuing
to
do
everything
in
your
power.
You
are
a
small
but
mighty
team,
and
every
time
we
come
to
you
this,
this
housing
crisis
has
been
overwhelming
for
all
of
us,
but
every
time
we
come
to
you,
you
find
a
way
and
not
just
a
way,
but
a
creative
and
outside
the
box
way.
Thank
you
so
much.
I
love
working
with
you
look
forward
to
continuing.
K
Congratulations,
let
me
say
publicly
how
much
I
look
up
to
respect
and
admire
all
of
you
when
we
say
we
want
to
attract
the
best
and
the
brightest
here
to
tampa.
You
are
the
examples
you
are
the
best
and
the
brightest
and
we're
so
lucky
to
have
you
here,
nicole
travis.
I
have
praised
you
publicly
before
and
I'm
not
going
to
stop
you
your
team,
abby
everybody
here,
you
work
so
hard
and
so
diligently
you're
always
here
to
answer
questions.
K
You're,
always
here
to
look
for
solutions
and
if
there's
not
a
solution,
you
look
for
another
another
path
forward,
but
we
are
very
grateful
to
have
you
here
the
service
to
the
city
of
tampa
to
the
residents
in
this
crisis
of
housing,
affordability
and
attainability
council.
L
Thank
you
very
much,
and
and
thank
you
guys
for
all
your
hard
work
that
you
do,
and
I
know
that
it's
it's
really
really
appreciated
and
you
all
get
a
lot
of
fires
thrown
at
you,
including
just
this
crisis
and
a
lot
of
last-minute
requests
etc,
and
I
and
just
know
that
we
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
guys.
H
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
all
for
everything
you
do.
As
my
colleague
said,
you
all
are
rock
stars
and
appreciate
all
the
all
the
new
team
members
that
are
there.
We
all
get
blamed
for
the
sins
of
the
past.
For
about
10
years,
the
city
hardly
focused
on
affordable
housing
at
all,
and
you
all
see
every
week
that
that
we
get
blamed.
You
all
get
blamed,
but
we
know
that
you
all
are
working
hard
to
try
to
change
that.
H
B
C
C
J
B
D
Natasha
goodly
2705
east
24th
avenue.
Thank
you
for
bestowing
upon
me
the
honor
to
help
shape
the
ways
the
city
of
tampa
can
work
to
preserve
black
history.
I
will
be
ready
with
a
full
presentation
in
november.
If
you
simply
just
let
me
know
the
date
and
I'll
be
ready,
but
I'm
here
today
to
ask
that
an
ordinance
be
created
to
respect
our
cemeteries.
D
I'm
asking
that
we
prevent
the
use
of
any
activity
on
land
deemed
to
be
a
cemetery.
It
hurts
my
heart
to
see
the
italian
club
cemetery
still
utilizing
the
college
hill
cemetery
as
their
parking
lot
or
to
see
the
city
storing
equipment.
At
times
at
the
cemetery
on
30th
and
sly,
we
have
already
forgotten
these
individuals.
The
least
we
can
do
is
respect
their
final
resting
place.
Thank
you.
C
There
is
a
lot
of
that
going
on
with
parking,
especially
that
one
or
thirtieth
and
slide
so,
if
wouldn't
be
a
problem,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
a
reference
ordinance
to
be
presented
in
reference
to
that.
The
problem
with
that,
sir,
all
right
so.
K
C
At
the
legal
department
come
back
in
november,
with
an
ordinance
for
the
city
of
tampa
that
states
that
a
known
cemetery
must
be
treated
as
such.
There
should
be
no
parking
on
it,
no,
no
storm
of
items,
no
events
held
on
this
property,
etc.
The
land
should
be
restricted
and
carried
in
the
dignity
of
the
cemetery,
and
we
bring
that
back
november,
first
date
november.
For
that
time,
number
six,
I'm
sorry!
Third.
Third,
second
third,.
B
E
For
these
human
beings,
who
are
now
in
a
northern
climate
where
the
winds
will
soon
begin
to
blow
and
the
snow
begin
to
fly,
and
soon
these
men
and
women
reportedly
from
venezuela
will
face
something.
Few
of
us
would
want
to
face
with
a
roof
over
our
head
and
proper
cold
weather
gear,
a
new
england
winter
like
placing
a
burning
bag
of
feces
on
the
doorstep
of
a
neighbor
and
watching
them
trying
to
stomp
it
out.
I'm
sure
this
gave
our
governor
a
good
laugh,
but
this
childish,
vindictive,
cruel
stunt
didn't
involve
feces.
E
J
E
That
what
they
were
getting
into
literally
so
with
that
in
mind,
I
am
asking
the
council
and
the
mayor's
office
to
draft
a
letter
expressing
this
city's
disgust,
dissent
and
distance
ourselves
from
the
actions
of
the
governor
and
the
current
administration.
Regarding
this
heinous
and
illegal
action.
E
B
For
one
second,
please,
we
have
councilman
vieira.
L
I
was
gonna
say
if
I
may,
to
the
gentleman.
I
usually
don't
comment
during
public
comments,
so
thank
you
so
much
for
that.
No
I'll
I'll
be
glad
to
make
that
motion
at
the
end.
You
know
what
what
what
among
many
things
that
gets
me
mad
about
that
is
those
are
venezuelans.
It
appears
who
are
fleeing
the
maduro
regime.
L
A
marxist
communist
regime,
like
my
family,
fled
in
1960
and
they're
being
used
as
a
political
prop
to
troll
people
and
to
just
feed
more
political,
fast
food
to
a
base,
and-
and
it
really
makes
me
angry
so
actually
I
talked
about
it
this
morning-
some
on
social
media,
I'll,
be
glad
to
do
that.
So,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
That's
it
thank.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
having
the
courage
to
come
up
and
speak
that
way.
It's
if
they
think
they're
using
for
political
purposes
for
their
benefit,
they're
wrong.
So
1970
the
hispanic
population,
the
united
states
of
america,
has
grown
by
540
percent.
M
M
M
To
say
that,
if
it
wasn't
for
the
hispanics
and
other
races
and
other
mixes,
miami
would
never
be
miami
amen
and
tampa
would
never
be
tampa.
No,
sir,
we
live
in
a
city
that
no
matter
who
you
are
what
color
you
are
what
race
you
are
how
tall
you
are
how
fat
you
are,
how
skinny
you
are
everyone's
acceptable
to
one
another.
That's
what
I
believe
in
so
by
doing.
I
D
Good
morning,
kela
mccaskill
is
my
name.
I
don't
know
if
this
is
appropriate.
Mr
shelby,
I
miss
you
and
as
a
token
of
appreciation,
I
want
to
get
you
dinner.
I
don't
even
know
if
it's
appropriate,
but
I
want
to
get
you
and
your
wife
dinner
to
your
favorite
restaurant
establishment.
You
have
truly
been
missed.
No
pun
intended
on
mr
massey,
but
you've
been
missed
so
helpful
whenever
we
need
it.
So
thank
you,
but
this
morning,
I'm
here
on
pure
concerning
pure
as
a
lifelong
resident.
D
You
know
I
operate
by
old
principle
that
in
a
multitude
of
council,
their
safety
and
it
just
I'm
not
an
elected
official.
I'm
not
you
know,
I'm
I'm
not
a
a
city
staff
member,
but
just
as
a
human
being
I
I'm
in
a
I
want
to
give
people
my
best.
When
I
give
information,
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
factual.
As
a
professional.
You
know
I
have
a
fiduciary
responsibility,
I'm
responsible
to
give
people
factual
information,
definitely
based
upon
truth,
but
unfortunately
that's
not
what
I
feel
we
get
when
we
deal
with
the
administration.
D
So
when
this
pure
situation
came
up,
the
information
that's
been
prevented
or
provided,
unfortunately,
comes
at
a
time
where
the
citizens,
we
don't
necessarily
trust
the
administration.
I
mean
we,
our
administration,
in
the
middle
of
a
doj
investigation.
We
found
out
about
it
on
oops
the
whole
hannah
street
situation,
the
whole
witch
hunt
on
our
most
active
city
council
members,
the
the
whole
recusing
themselves
when
it's
convenient
for
them
in
terms
of
the
administration.
It's
just
so
much
we're
we're
wore
out
and
we
necessarily
don't
trust.
D
The
information
that's
been
provided
from
the
administration
as
it
relates
to
peer.
We
already
know
that
none
of
us
are
experts
as
it
relates
to
pure.
So
I
don't
see
why
we
couldn't
get
scientists
and
environmentalists
to
come.
Bring
this
information
to
the
community
before
you
as
city
council
members
that
information
wasn't
presented.
So
for
me,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
the
information
that's
been
provided
to
the
community,
or
even
here
at
city
council.
D
So
when
it
comes
before
us,
I'm
in
looking
at
pure
and
looking
at
the
factory
information
that
we
have
with
the
pipes,
I
see
the
need
for
urgency
as
it
relates
to
the
pipes.
Jackson,
mississippi
has
put
us
all
on
alert
if
you've
heard
about
it.
That's
the
situation.
Our
pipes
are
over
a
100
years
old,
plus
100
years
old.
That's
factual,
that's
information,
that's
documented
everywhere.
What's
not
clear
and
transparent
is
the
need
for
this
peer.
They
won't
answer
simple
questions
like
is
it?
D
D
E
The
people
said
no
to
them,
and
today
we
say
no
to
this
mayor
pure
we're
now
convinced
is
just
toilet
to
tap
old,
contaminated
water
and
new
bottles
with
a
new
label,
and
we
ask
you
today
to
say
no
to
pure
no
to
the
request
for
a
continuance
on
the
funding
amendment.
No
to
that
funding
request,
no
to
any
future
funding.
Just
no
now.
Why
no
do
we
need
this
water?
No
we're
getting
plenty
of
rain,
as
you
can
see
from
the
tampa
tribune
temperature.
Sorry
tampa
bay
times.
E
Every
day
on
the
back
of
the
sports
page,
we
are
within
one
inch
of
average
annual
rainfall
at
this
time.
49.5
inches
our
situation.
Our
future
is
nothing
like
california.
The
hillsborough
river
reservoir
is
the
polar
opposite
of
lake
mead.
Is
this
water
safe,
the
city,
treats
and
tests
our
river
water,
so
that
we
know
that
it
meets
all
federal
and
states
standards
for
health
and
safety,
but
this
waste
water
would
have
some
amounts
of
every
drug.
Every
chemical
anyone
gets
at
walgreens
hormones,
antidepressants
insulin,
you
name
it.
E
What
happens
when
your
grandchild
drinks
this
water
with
all
that
in
it
her
entire
life,
and
it
builds
up
little
by
little
when
fish
swim
in
it
as
they
spawn?
We
don't
know,
but
the
problem
is
the
federal
government
is
way
behind
on
setting
any
safety
standards
for
any
of
these
new
chemical
contaminants
that
the
water
department's
never
dealt
with.
E
As
staff
told
a
reporter
this
week,
we
have
simply
pointed
out
that
the
hundreds
of
standards
for
these
new
contaminants
we
would
need
to
have
to
ensure
safety
do
not
yet
exist.
It's
not
up
to
the
engineers
and
the
attorneys
here
to
set
them
it's
up
to
qualified
scientists
to
dpa
worst
part
is.
This
will
cost
a
lot.
It
could
easily
double
utility
bills
or
more
once
we
finally
do
get
safety
standards
and
figure
out.
E
We
have
to
rebuild
what's
already
a
multi-billion
dollar
project
and
start
all
over
again
to
try
to
make
it
safe,
affordable,
clean
water
is
a
basic
human
right
and
a
government
that
works
on
our
most
urgent
problems
is
the
kind
of
government
we
should
have.
As
a
member
of
the
mayor's
advisory
council
on
sustainability
and
resilience.
I
urge
you
to
end
this
distraction
of
time
and
resources.
That's
hurting
our
capacity
to
work
on
our
real
needs:
affordable
housing,
clean
energy,
preventing
flooding
to
name
a
couple.
We
have
real
challenges
to
make
tampa
sustainable.
R
Good
morning
my
name
is
gary
gibbons.
My
business
address
is
3321
henderson
boulevard
in
tampa,
I'm
the
vice
president
and
vice
chair
and
political
chair
of
the
tampa
bay,
sierra
club
and
I'm
proud
to
speak
today
on
behalf
of
our
2500
members
and
more
than
13
000
friends
and
allies
on
our
email
list,
who
looked
at
the
sierra
club
for
guidance
on
important
environmental
issues,
and
we
are
urging
all
of
them
to
oppose
the
pure
project.
I'm
also
here
this
morning
to
ask
you
to
kill
this
project.
R
R
We've
worked
in
good
faith
with
the
city
staff
for
more
than
20
months,
and
we've
had
monthly
meetings
that
lasted
at
least
90
minutes
each
and
throughout
that
time
the
city
staff
has
told
us
that
the
10-year
time
period
allowed
under
state
law
to
build
a
big
project
like
this
is
a
very
very
short
time.
Yet
today,
they're
coming
and
asking
for
a
long
extent,
continuance.
R
None
of
that
is
consistent
with
the
urgency
they've
been
saying
for
the
last
two
years.
We've
also
suggested
to
the
city
many
times
that
they
should
join
with
all
of
the
other
167
municipalities
around
the
state,
who
are
also
under
this
ridiculously
short
time
frame,
to
ask
the
state
legislature
for
an
extension
of
the
10-year
time
frame
to
comply
with
senate
bill
64.
R
R
R
R
We
did
not
oppose
the
initial
funding
because
it
was
supposed
to
be
used
for
studying
alternatives
other
than
putting
it
into
the
wastewater
into
the
aquifer
or
the
reservoir
or
the
lower
river,
and
the
money
was
to
also
be
used
for
public
outreach
and
education.
None
of
that
has
occurred
on
monday.
Whitt
riemer
would
have
held
a
press
conference
at
sulphur
springs
and
he
told
the
media
and
the
public
that
pure
hasn't
been
decided.
Yet
we
haven't
figured
out
what
to
do,
but
the
alternatives
are.
We
can
put
it
in
the
reservoir.
R
We
can
put
it
in
the
lower
river
or
we
can
put
it
in
the
aquifer.
Folks,
that's
tap,
that's
what
they've
wanted
to
do
for
20
years.
Until
you
tell
us
how
the
wastewater
is
going
to
be
cleaned,
what
contaminants
are
going
to
be
removed
and
what
are
not
going
to
be
removed,
then
don't
put
it
in
the
river,
don't
put
it
in
the
aquifer
and
don't
put
it
in
the
reservoir.
D
The
florida
department
of
environmental
protection
states
that
reclaimed
water
should
not
be
directly
applied
to
surfaces
of
vegetables
or
other
edible
crops
that
are
not
peeled,
cooked
or
thermally
processed
before
being
consumed,
but
you
are
considering
to
expose
it
to
human
beings,
so
why
would
it
be
okay
to
utilize,
sewage,
water,
for
public
use,
I'm
in
complete
opposition
to
the
city
of
tampa
implementing
a
plan
to
recycle
sewage
water?
I
know
you
call
it
wastewater
in
our
day-to-day
use.
D
D
D
D
S
I've
been
in
tampa
over
35
years.
I've
spent
the
majority
of
my
life
here
I
grew
up
all
over
the
city
of
tampa.
I
graduated
from
the
heart
of
tampa
east
tampa
hillsborough
high
school
I've
seen
firsthand
the
power
and
impact
that
extracurricular
activities
and
sports
and
other
community
entities
have
on
the
success
of
of
children
in
the
community.
S
I
am
a
community
member,
very
active
in
community.
I
mentor
children
from
grades
kindergarten
through
12th
grade
through
my
free
and
accepted
masonry
work,
my
mentor
kids
through
that
and
I'm
also
a
alpha
5
fraternity
incorporated
brother.
So
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
working
in
our
community.
S
S
So
I'm
telling
you
that
places
like
hip
factory
tampa,
which
operates
out
of
wellsworth,
has
become
a
respite
for
so
many
kids.
I
watched
first
hand
how
kids
of
all
different
income
backgrounds,
racial
backgrounds,
ethnic
backgrounds,
talent
levels,
have
come
to
that
park
and
called
that
place
home
for
years
for
decades.
S
That
park
has
served
as
a
as
a
home
for
so
many
families,
regardless
of
talent,
level,
the
russo
family
they
take
those
kids
in
and
the
reason
why
that's
important
is
because
it
gives
them
that
sense
of
confidence
and
gives
them
that
sense
of
hope,
as
they
try
to
matriculate
through
this
very
difficult
kindergarten
through
12th
grade
system,
as
we
prepare
them
for
post-secondary
education.
In
order
to
prepare
students
for
post-secondary
education,
they
have
to
have
relevant
hobbies
and
a
connection
to
the
community
without
a
connection
to
the
community.
They
lose
hope.
S
So
I
can
tell
you
firsthand
my
own
child,
who
has
autism
spectrum
disorder
is
a
part
of
this
organization
when
he
joined
the
organization
five
years
ago.
He
was
a
shy.
Kid
didn't
speak
to
many
people
low
in
confidence.
He
was
only
an
average
student,
but
the
russo
brothers,
particularly
paul
russo,
instilled
a
certain
level
of
confidence
in
him
that
now
he
has
excelled,
and
now
he
is
in
10th
grade.
S
He
has
a
3.86
gpa
in
all
honors
and
ap
classes,
he's
a
highly
talented
baseball
athlete
with
interest
from
various
d1
college
programs,
but
more
important
to
that.
He
feels,
like
he's,
been
he's
a
part
of
a
community
that
accepts
him
for
for
the
way
that
he
is
and
that
embraces
him
as
family
and
that's
why
it's
important
to
continue
contracts
with
organizations
like
hit
factory
and
out
that
are
operating
on
wellsworld,
because
it
provides
that
sense
of
hope
for
those
families.
So
I
ask
that
you
take
that
in
consideration.
Q
Hi
good
morning
my
name
is
stephanie
dunlop
and
I'm
here
it's
my
pleasure
as
well
to
speak
in
regards
to
the
russo
brothers
and
their
parks
and
recreation
contract
that
they
have.
So
I'm
going
to
speak
a
little
bit
from
my
heart.
My
son
drew
joined
the
hip
factory
organization
approximately
five
years
ago
and
my
husband,
my
son
myself,
never
would
imagine
it
would
be
such
a
huge
part
of
our
lives
as
well
as
wellsword
the
park
itself
as
it
is
today.
Q
My
son
would
love
to
be
here,
but
of
course,
at
15
he's
at
school
where
he
should
be,
but
there
were
two
things
he
asked
me
this
morning
to
share
with
all
of
you
and
keep
in
mind
he's
a
15
year
old
teenage
boy,
so
he's
not
full
of
many
words
but
number
one.
He
wants
you
to
know
that
the
hip
factory
organization
and
the
russo
brothers
and
all
of
their
coaches
are
amazing,
quote
unquote,
amazing
and
he
has
learned
so
much
from
them
and
has
gained
so
many
of
his
best
buddies.
Q
Actually
through
the
organization
number
two.
He
wanted
to
share
with
me
that
he
has
improved
drastically
his
baseball
skills,
not
that
you
care
to
know
that,
but
that's
what
he
wanted
you
to
know
as
his
mother
and
someone
who
is
full
of
far
more
words
than
he
is
these
days.
I
don't
disagree
with
him
on
either
of
those
points,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
the
organization
at
wellswood
park
has
done
far
more
for
my
son
than
simply
being
amazing
and
teaching
him
baseball
skills.
Q
It
is
truly
these
past
five
years
I
have
watched
him
develop
into
a
phenomenal
young
man.
He
has
learned
so
much
not
just
from
the
russo
brothers,
but
all
of
their
coaches
there
on
site
at
welleswood.
He
has
learned
self-discipline.
He
has
learned
time
management
he's
learned
how
to
lose.
He's
learned
how
to
win.
Q
He's
learned
how
to
be
a
good
teammate
and
how
to
be
a
leader
and
he's
learned
humility
as
well
as
how
to
deal
with
adversity,
and
these
are
life
skills
that
will
carry
on
with
my
son,
far
longer
than
any
baseball
skills
that
he
develops
at
wellswood
through
those
coaches.
So
I
too
ask
you
that
you
keep
into
consideration.
Q
The
lights
were
out
the
fields
weren't
in
very
good
condition,
and
through
the
years
that
we've
been
a
part
of
the
hit
factory
organization,
we
have
watched
the
russo
brothers
firsthand
with
their
coaches,
develop
that
park
and
give
improvements
to
that
park
that
these
youth
are
able
to
enjoy
and
able
to
flourish
from.
So
I'm
telling
you
these
kids,
the
boys
and
the
girls
they're,
not
just
learning
baseball
and
softball
skills,
they're
becoming
young
adults
in
front
of
our
eyes
and
in
this
world
full
of
so
much
negativity.
Q
R
Good
morning,
council
members,
I
am
scott
powell,
I'm
from
south
tampa.
I
am
here
also
to
speak
about
paul,
russo
and
his
organization.
He
asked
me
to
come
here
to
basically
tell
my
son's
story.
My
son
had
always
been
a
baseball
player.
I
came
up
through
the
south
tampa
and
temple
terrace
before
that
started
off
at
plant
high
school
made
the
junior
varsity
team
as
a
freshman.
R
Also,
you
know,
played
as
a
sophomore
early
on
at
that
in
that
year
he
got
brought
up
to
the
varsity
team
and,
of
course,
it's
a
good
school
good
talent.
He
was
young.
He
only
played
a
little
bit.
The
coach
was
always
on
him
about
his
weight.
His
little
was
a
little
bit
heavier
at
the
time
and
the
coach
said
look.
I
know
you
can
hit,
but
you're
not
going
to
start
at
this
school
until
you
get
in
shape,
goes
on
to
his
junior
year.
R
Still
on
varsity
doesn't
play
much
coach
is
always
on
him
really
drilling
them.
As
you
know,
not
all
coaches
have
turf
experience,
sometimes
they're
just
getting
doing
it
for
the
stipend,
sometimes
they're,
not
terrific,
with
kids,
which
is
an
example.
In
this
case
it
goes
into
his
senior
year,
usually
the
most
celebrated
time
of
a
high
school
athlete's
career.
R
R
We
always
thought
he
was
going
to
go
on
and
play
and
further
his
career,
and
we
thought
okay
well,
he's
changed
his
mind,
that's
what
he
wants
to
do
he's
done
with
baseball.
He
said
no,
no,
I'm
going
to
continue
with
baseball,
but
I'm
going
to
keep
playing
with
paul
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
find
some
way
to
continue
my
dream
and
play
in
college.
R
Of
course,
skeptical
all
right,
well,
you're
not
playing
high
school
anymore.
So
what
are
the
chances
of
that?
We
didn't
think
really
much
of
it
but
drew
believed
in
it
and
continued
to
work
hard
and
he
continued
to
work
with
paul
and
his
organization
and
through
after
after
he
had
graduated
through
a
very
circuitous
route.
Paul
secured
him
a
full
scholarship
to
baseball
and
he
played
the
next
two
years
for
free
at
a
junior
college.
In
alabama
from
there.
R
But
there
are
hundreds
of
kids
in
this
program
who
nobody
knows
except
paul
and
his
coaches,
and
then
he
works
with
them
continually
to
get
scholarships
where
they
can
be
found,
and
it
took
my
son
getting
a
you
know
going
to
alabama
and
going
out
of
state
where
they
want
the
florida
players
and
they
they
gave
him
a
full
scholarship
for
two
years
that
wouldn't
have
happened.
Had
he
just
listened
to
his
coach
and
said:
okay,
that's
it
we're
done
so.
G
G
G
The
state
can
only
see
and
hear
ron
desantis
in
this
city,
the
city
of
tampa.
These
politicians
can
only
see
and
hear
jeff
fennick.
They
can
only
see
and
hear
the
people
that
they're
afraid
of
anything
that
gets
past.
This
city
council
gets
through
because
the
hierarchy
and
the
chain
of
command
has
spoken,
the
mayor's
the
lead
puppet
and
the
city
council
are
their
chief
followers.
The.
G
If
the
public
is
upset
about
the
water
reclamation,
project,
water
treatment
or
reintroducing
sewage
water
back
into
the
system,
then
they
need
to
impress
upon
jeff
vinnick
that
it
is
not
in
his
best
interest.
This
city
council
is
mostly
made
up
of
scary
individuals
that
present
themselves
as
normal,
decent
human
beings
that
have
an
interest
in
the
advancement
of
society
but
in
reality,
their
regular
puppet
politicians
that
gets
their
propaganda,
indoctrination
and
orders
from
the
ruling
class
and
the
ruling
class
is
anti-working-class.
G
Anti-Poor,
anti-black
and
anti-inclusiveness
people
always
ask:
why
aren't
there
more
black
people
down
here?
It
is
because
black
people
are
afraid
to
come
down
here.
Black
people
are
afraid
of
white
people.
It
isn't
because
black
people
are
complacent
or
regressive.
It
isn't
because
we
have
no
willpower
or
ambition.
It
is
because
we
have
been
terrorized
for
the
past
622
years
by
an
aggressive
power,
hungry
race,
of
people
that
teaches
black
people
to
follow
the
leadership
of
white
power.
G
The
white
people
form
an
ethical
alliances
with
black
con
artists,
black
preachers,
black
so-called
community
leaders
and
black
sellouts,
ultimately,
making
our
people
think
that
we
are
our
own
problem.
They
tell
our
black
women
that
it's
okay
to
go
to
child
support
and
snitching
our
men.
They
teach
our
men
to
snitch
in
one
another.
They
teach
our
students
and
children
to
act
in
conjunction
with
the
police.
They
tell
us
to
say
no
to
drugs
as
they
lock
up
our
entire
community.
They
tell
us
to
accept
local
or
national
leadership.
G
That
is
not
representative
of
our
needs.
How
is
it
that
we
can
have
a
black
city
council
representative
since
1983
perry
harvey?
That
is
all
the
way
to
2022
almost
40
years
and
not
one
city
council
representative
has
uttered
the
word
reparations
well,
as
stated,
black
people
are
afraid
of
white
power,
and
it's
time
our
representatives
and
this
city
council
start
taking
the
word
reparations
very
serious
in
relationship
to
this
city
that
has
been
formed
over
157
years
ago.
J
I
would
like
you
to
know
food,
shelter
and
water
are
basic
means
of
life,
so
without
them
we
will
not
survive.
I'm
here
as
a
water
advocate
and
begging
the
city,
council,
men
and
women
to
stop
this
project
and
all
funding
and
how
we
can
actually
come
to
some
type
of
clear
plan
by
the
mayor
right
now.
J
There
is
no
plan,
that's
very
clear,
there's
no
regulations
by
the
epa
or
the
fda
for
secondary
water
usage
until
it
gets
filtered,
which
we
don't
even
know
how
they're
going
to
be
doing
that
at
the
moment,
there's
over
60
chemicals
right
now
that
aren't
even
tested
by
the
epa
that
cause
cancer.
I'm
a
hairdresser.
So
I'm
very
well
aware
of
all
these
chemicals,
the
current
standards
from
them
from
the
epa
they
can't
actually
like,
even
if
they
found
something
in
the
water.
J
This
the
epa
can't
even
find
the
state
right
now,
since
the
supreme
court's
pretty
much
dismantled
them.
So
I'm
really
worried
about
the
forever
chemicals
that
are
in
the
water
forever.
Chemicals
or
chemicals
that
binds
to
others
to
help
products
like
french
fries
when
you
touch
them,
they
don't
get
hot
and
like
make
their
makeup
to
help
it
spread,
and
things
like
that.
So
when
people
use
the
water,
it
actually
goes
down
the
drain
and
if
they're
they're
in
there
forever,
they
don't
break
down.
J
88
percent
of
americans,
according
to
the
cdc,
already
have
forever
chemicals
in
their
bloodstream
and
when
it
comes
to
funding.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
jeff
vinnick,
the
emily
oil,
ceo,
the
glazier
family,
there's
like
three
lightning
players:
baseball
players,
there's
the
former
ceo
of
publix
jenkins
and
the
owner
of
tampa
made
food
company.
J
They
all
use
over
one
million
gallons
of
water
every
year.
One
of
them
actually
uses
3.7
million,
which
is
like
350,
something
thousand
gallons
a
month.
The
average
person
in
tampa
uses
70,
000
gallons
a
year,
so
we
want
to
go
to
funding.
I
don't
understand
why
we
can't
charge
these
people
who
are
obviously
abusing
the
water,
not
to
mention
their
businesses,
like
midtown
plaza
before
it
opened
used
240,
000
gallons
of
water
a
day
before
it
opened
with
no
residents.
No
businesses,
no
nothing,
and
why
aren't
these
people
getting
fined?
J
E
Okay
good
morning,
I'm
nancy
stevens
conservation,
chair
of
the
sierra
club
of
tampa
bay.
Today,
I'm
urging
you
to
vote
no
to
continue
pure.
I
want
you
to
urge
you
to
vote
no
to
further
funding
of
furore
right
now,
when
the
city
presented
pure
the
pure
proposal
to
the
sierra
club,
friends
of
the
river
and
the
league
of
women
voters
in
december
2020,
my
predecessor,
kent
bailey,
would
have
immediately
objected.
It
was
an
obvious
rebranding
of
pure.
E
Instead,
our
group
called
so-called
stakeholders,
now
decided
to
work
with
the
city
staff
to
raise
the
issues
and
concerns
our
issues
and
concerns
and
communicate.
We
referred
to
with
from
the
public
we
recommended
outside
scientists
to
come
in,
so
that
they
can
look
at
the
proposal
so
that
they
could
raise
questions
to
be
answered
to
determine
if
pure
was
even
safe.
E
We
recommended
an
independent
panel
of
of
experts
to
look
at
the
alternatives
and
including
not
using
the
wastewater
at
all.
After
more
than
20
months,
our
questions
remain
unanswered.
The
expert
scientific
recommendations
have
been
ignored
and
alternatives
to
using
wastewater
have
been
serious,
have
not
been
seriously
considered.
E
Citizens
concerns
about
drinking
reclaimed.
Water
is
still
dismissed
as
the
ick
factor.
People
understand
what
drinking
water
that
comes
from
toilets
and
industrial
waste
means
and
have
legitimate
concerns.
What
contaminants
are
in
the
water
you've
heard.
Some
of
them
today
are
the
levels
safe.
Are
the
levels
of
these
contaminants
safe?
How
is
the
city
going
to
guarantee
that
it
will
be
safe?
The
city
has
not
even
begun
to
address
those
legitimate
issues.
E
Citizen
citizens
have
asked.
Why
not
do
something
else:
expanding
reclaimed,
water,
the
purple
pipes
to
water
lawns,
is
dismissed
as
too
expensive.
Regional
solutions
have
never
been
discussed
when
asked
about
water
needs
to
get
we
get.
If
you
go
to
the
website,
you
get
a
video
on
or
there's
going
to
be
droughts.
E
Why
use
the
wastewater
it
was
mentioned
senate
bill
64
is
requiring
us
to
use
it.
The
city
has
made
no
attempts
to
push
back
on
that
red
legislation.
The
stakeholders
group
we've
has
provided
a
technical
paper
describing
that
what
we
are
doing
right
now
with
our
wastewater
is
a
beneficial
use.
We
hope
the
city
will
take
that
paper
and
submit
an
application
to
the
dep
and
that
the
state,
stakeholders
and
city
council
will
have
a
chance
to
review
that
paper
before
it
goes
into
the
dep.
E
We
hope
that
the
city
makes
an
honest
attempt
to
get
the
pressure
of
sb
64
off
of
us
in
february.
We
we
acknowledge
the
1.2
in
funding
that
money
has
not
been
accounted
for.
We
haven't
seen
the
results.
Instead,
we
were
surprised
by
this
additional
request.
We
urge
you
to
say
no
to
this
additional
funding
today.
E
E
F
Good
morning,
city
council,
I'm
speaking
on
items
five
and
six
in
the
agenda,
I'm
asking
you
to
vote
this
project
down
and
not
provide
further
funding.
My
name
is
b
john
alvink,
I'm
a
founding
member
of
friends
of
the
river.
For
over
22
years,
I've
been
advocating
for
clean,
unpolluted,
fresh
water
for
the
minimum
flowing
hillsborough
ever
below
the
dam.
F
During
the
past
22
months
with
growing
frustration,
I
have
been
a
member
of
a
stakeholders
group
that
has
been
discussing
mayor
castro's
legacy
project
pure
for
the
past
few
decades.
Tampa
has
been
attempting
to
transform
wastewater
into
drinking
water.
You
will
remember
the
toilet
to
tap
project
at
first
draft
of
pure
looked
a
lot
like
tap
at
the
suggestion
of
the
stakeholder
group.
The
city
employed
a
consultant
to
investigate
alternatives
to
tap
up
to
eight
alternatives
were
eventually
proposed
with
growing
persistence.
F
City
is
never
engaged
in
honest
public
discussion
or
unbiased
education
about
alternatives
to
tap.
It
is
now
obvious
to
me
that
the
city
has
never
been
interested
in
pursuing
any
option.
Other
than
tap
mr
riemer
tells
us
he's
been
listening.
Listening
is
nice,
listening
does
not
commit
listening,
also
means
going
out
in
the
community
talking
to
people
and
telling
them
about
alternatives
and
listening
to
their
answers.
F
F
Today,
no
meaningful,
unbiased
outreach
has
taken
place,
stakeholders
consistently
have
been
fed,
incomplete
information
city
haven't
told
you
what
they've
used
the
money
for,
and
now
they
want
more.
For
this
reason
alone,
I
ask
that
you
refuse
further
funding
for
22
months.
City
has
been
listening
to
us
asking
the
same
three
questions.
You've
heard
them
here
today.
Is
it
safe?
Is
it
needed
and
how
much
will
it
cost?
F
We
haven't
received
any
answers,
other
than
trust
us,
and
no,
mr
ramer.
It's
not
the
ick
factor.
I
object
to.
I
have
probably
drunk
and
swam
in
water
with
poop
in
it,
for
instance,
when
traveling
through
egypt
and
india,
where
some
50
years
ago,
I
drank
tap
water.
That
came
straight
from
the
nile
at
the
ganges.
F
There
was
virtually
no
industrialization
there
at
the
time.
So
it's
not
poop,
I'm
concerned
with
poop
gives
you
the
runs
nothing
else.
It's
chemicals,
pfas
hormones,
medication
that
I'm
concerned
with.
There
are
no
drinking
water
standards
for
most
pfas,
which
means
the
city
does
not
even
need
to
treat
for
it.
F
And
after
22
months
of
listening,
you
still
haven't
given
us
an
answer
to
the
questions,
how
it
will
be
made
safe
for
my
granddaughter
to
drink,
I'm
opposed
to
putting
treated
wastewater
in
the
aquifer
into
the
hillsborough
river
without
scientific
proof,
it'll
be
safe
for
wildlife
and
humans
until
pure
is
shown
needed,
safe
and
affordable
funding,
for
it
must
be
stopped.
I
ask
you
to
vote
this
project
down.
Thank
you.
E
O
J
O
J
There
are
some
contaminants
in
the
affluent
from
our
wastewater
that
are
hazardous
materials,
and
such
I
mean
other
people
have
already
talked
about
it,
but
the
forever
chemicals,
as
their
name
implies
stays
within
the
tissues
of
all
creatures,
people,
animals
etc,
basically
forever,
and
they
are
so
harmful
that
the
epa
wants
the
limits
to
be
as
close
as
possible
to
zero
due
to
a
growing
body
of
research.
That
shows
how
toxic
they
are,
and
that's
a
quote
from
an
epa
document.
J
J
E
Good
morning
my
name
is
theresa
potter,
I'm
a
citizen
resident
a
citizen
of
tampa
resident
of
the
city
of
tampa,
but
I'm
also
the
president
of
the
league
of
women
voters
of
hillsborough
county,
a
member
of
the
stakeholder
group.
A
lot
of
the
press.
That's
been
on
the
pure
project
since
monday
has
pointed
out
that
the
opposition
is
from
environmental
groups,
the
league
of
women,
voters
of
of
hillsborough
county
and
the
league
of
women.
E
Voters
in
general
is
more
concerned
with
informing
the
electorate
since
1920
the
league
of
women
voters
and
since
1949,
the
league
of
women
voters
of
hillsborough
county
has
made
it
our
priority
to
have
our
citizens
be
informed
and
involved
in
the
decisions
and
issues
that
affect
them.
So
I
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
your
action
in
february.
E
I
commend
you
for
instead
of
fully
funding
the
pure
project
and
moving
forward
that
the
money
that
was
given
at
that
meeting
was
directed
towards
public
outreach
and
analysis
of
of
other
options
and
alternatives
on
this
project.
I
think
we
all
agree.
It
is
not
just
an
environmental
issue,
it
is
also
an
oversight
and
transparency
and
public
outreach
issue.
So
public
outreach
outreach
to
some
people
may
mean
finding
out
how
many
people
are
for
it
or
against
it.
E
E
When
I
ask
them
about
something-
and
you
know
the
look
I'm
talking
about
you-
either
get
engagement
and
questions
or
you
get
a
completely
blank
face
because
they
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about
so
prior
to
monday,
I
didn't
talk
to
a
single
person
that
had
didn't
have
a
blank
face
when
I
asked
them
about
the
pure
project
and
gave
them
some
of
the
details
of
it.
After
monday,
I
started
getting
people
asking
me
information
about
it.
I've
been
a
public
k-12
public
education
advocate
for
many
years.
E
I
talk
to
a
lot
of
people
every
day,
including
a
lot
of
parents.
In
our
community
started
getting
texts
on
monday
about
the
pure
project
for
the
first
time,
and
so
then,
with
my
from
my
other
hat,
I
have
a
master's
in
library,
science
and
in
a
previous
life
I
was
an
elementary
and
high
school
media
specialist
and
taught
classes
on
information
and
misinformation
and
disinformation.
E
So
the
information
that
started
coming
out
since
monday,
some
of
it
coming
from
the
city
as
quotes
from
city
staff,
was
concerning
as
well.
One
of
those
was
addressed
by
somebody
previously
who
said
that
the
reason
that
people
are
against
this
is
because
of
the
ick
factor,
which
I
never
heard
anybody
talk
about.
Another
one
is
that
it's
not
a
project,
there
was
a
bidding
process
and
staff
came
to
the
city
asking
for
funding
for
this.
It
is
a
project.
It's
just
not
a
fully
funded
project.
E
At
this
point
for
over
20
months,
these
conversations
have
been
happening.
They
didn't
that
one
of
the
members
of
the
press
asked
us
they're
coming
to
the
they're
coming
to
the
city
council,
asking
for
money
for
public
outreach.
Aren't
you
happy
about
that?
If
this
was
the
first
million
dollars?
Yes,
but
there
was
no
conversation
there
about
the
million
dollars.
That's
already
meant
to
have
been
spent
on
that,
so
it's
time
to
kill
this
project
and
work
on
something
else.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
Hi,
my
name
is
valerie
bullock,
I'm
a
resident
of
east
tampa
and
I
want
to
qualify
myself
before
I
speak.
I
got
an
a
wastewater
license
from
dep
a
seaway
drinking
water
license
from
dep
I
set
33
years
ago
for
my
state
board.
I
took
two
state
boards
at
the
same
time,
passed
them
both
at
the
first
try.
I
was
sworn
in
to
protect
the
water
and
from
that
day
forward,
that's
what
I've
been
doing.
I
still
have
the
same
zeal
and
passion,
and
this
pure
project
it
need
to
be
dumped
as
soon
as
possible.
D
It's
a
waste
of
taxpayers,
money,
the
toilet
to
tap.
It's
been
around
forever,
let's
pump
it
into
the
aquifer.
What
happens
if
something
happens
and
the
aquifer
was
it
was
the
leak
before
its
time.
Do
we
have
a
plan
for
that?
No,
I
don't
think
so,
and
this
is
nothing
but
a
disaster
waiting
to
happen.
Just
like
piney
point,
we
sat
there
and
we
made
all
of
these
excuses
did
ring
around
the
waste
water.
Put
it
here,
put
it
there.
We
never
deal
with
the
right
answer.
Then
years
later
it
comes
back
at
night.
D
D
It
could
be
put
into
something
useful
and
once
again
it's
the
administration
want
to
push
things
through
because
of
whatever
reason
I
don't
know
if
it's
nepotism
out
of
money
trail
go
back
to
the
friends,
but
we
have
a
check
and
balance
in
every
system
and
we
got
to
start
using
it.
This
is
a
waste
of
taxpayers.
Money
wastewater
is
99.9
percent
per
like
average,
so
if
we
treat
it
properly
and
we
continue
to
do
like
we've
been
doing-
we
won't
have
a
problem
with
it.
D
D
D
Let's
see
what
the
alternatives
are,
let's
see,
since
we
got
the
wastewater
plan
already
working,
let's
see
what
we
can
do
to
make
that
better
to
fortify
so
that
it'll
be
around
long
enough.
I
remember
when
I
was
a
little
girl.
They
used
to
have
a
tv
commercial
with
the
indian
out
down
the
boat
tears
going
down
his
eyes
from
the
water
getting
polluted
and
contamination
we
should
be
trying
to
go
forward
not
backward,
and
water
is
the
greatest
resource
that
we
have
and
we
need
to
protect
it.
E
E
E
I
see
a
lot
of
stony
faces,
no
answer.
I
know
I
was
banned
from
anybody
speaking
to
me
because
I
had
litigation
before,
but
I
have
no
litigation
before
you
now
so
there's
possibility
for
you
to
respond
if
you
wish
to
I'm
told
that
this
that
this
program
is
going
to
be
at
a
minimum
two
billion
dollars.
You
know
what
the
interest
is
that
at
five
percent
is
100
million
dollars
a
year
who's
going
to
pay
for
it.
E
How
much
is
my
utility
bill
going
to
go
up,
you're
going
to
text
me
one
way
or
the
other.
You
tried
it
with
storm
water,
but
I
kind
of
prevailed
on
that,
but
I
don't
know.
Does
anybody
know
how
high
my
utility
is
built?
You
can
see
what
it
is
now.
I've
mitigated
to
the
fact
that
I
don't
use
any
city
water
for
drinking.
I
don't
use
the
city
sewer
and
I
don't
use
storm
water.
It
can
be
done,
but
right
there,
I've
done
it.
I
E
M
B
C
Can
it
be
both.
I
don't
know
what
it
would
cost.
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
again
I
like
a
fighter
and
congratulations.
Your
litigation
is
over,
so
I
was
saying
congratulations
for
coming
here,
many
many
years
and
being
strong
to
fight
to
do
what
you
did
and
I
applaud
you
for
your
ever
search.
So
I
want.
C
E
M
M
You
very
much
chairman
hi,
mr
mall.
I
just
want
to
congratulate
you.
I've
never
seen
one
that
has
zeros
for
a
year
all
the
way
down,
and
you
are
true
environmentalists,
not
those
that
think
about
it.
It's
not
those
that
want
us
to
talk
about
it,
but
those
that
do
what
others
talk
about.
A
lot
of
people
talk
and
they
don't
do
you
do
what
you
think
is
right,
and
I
admire
you
for
that
and.
M
I
tried
I'd
be
honest
with
god.
I
tried,
but
the
water
department
ran
me
over.
I
tell
you
why,
for
11
months
I
had
zeros,
and
I
was
trying
one
of
my
goals
to
have
it
just
like
yours
all
the
way
zeros.
However,
on
that
12th
month
I
got
a
one
unit
and
I
was
perturbed
at
myself,
not
at
the
city
for
not
doing
what
I
said
I
was
going
to
do.
However,
I
put
the
bill
down
and
about
a
week
or
so
later
I
said.
M
So
in
my
mind,
I
still
don't
have
a
zero
and
the
water
department
got
me,
but
it
was
fair
and
square
that
was
when
they
in
the
transition
changing
the
way
they
were
collecting
the
meters
and
reading
the
meters
and
I
got
caught
and
that
two
day
difference.
But
I
I'm
not
apologetic.
I
admire
what
you've
done
and
your
fight
when
you
fight
for
something
it's
not
about
winning
or
losing
it's
about
doing
your
best
and
not
to
lose.
Thank
you
and
few
of
us
do
what
you've
done
and
I
admire
you
for
that.
M
M
I
drive
a
cadillac
instead
of
a
hybrid
or
or
an
electric
car,
and
I
don't
want
to
hear
that
I'm
spending
900
a
month
in
electricity
when
you
don't
have
any
solar
and
I'm
not
talking
about
the
environments
I'm
talking
about
in
general,
the
public
I
admire
for
what
you've
done
and
god
bless
you
and
I
don't
know
what
the
bill
is
going
to
be,
because
I
don't
know
what
the
true
cost
is.
I
hope.
H
I
want
to
echo
what
my
colleague
just
said.
Thank
you
for
everything
you
do
to
try
to
save
resources.
You
should
we
should
have
you
do
a
a
class
for
all
of
us
in
the
community
to
so
you
can
teach
us
how
to
do
that.
To
answer
your
question,
we
don't
know:
we've
been
asking
for
at
least
three
and
a
half
years.
The
the
group
around
you
in
the
room
has
been
asking
and
there's
a
lot
of
different
answers.
H
That
was,
if
I
remember
correctly,
3.2
billion,
and
so
I
asked
I
made
a
motion
to
have
the
350
million
taken
out
and
and
then
we
would
just
approve
2.85
for
the
pipes
program
and
then
the
water
department
talked
and
said
in
the
room
and
came
back
and
said
well,
can
you
only
take
out
300
million
and
so
suddenly,
within
a
few
minutes,
the
price
dropped
from
350
to
300
million.
So
we
took
that
out
the
pipes
program
for
three
for
2.9
billion.
H
If
I
remember
correctly
added
to
the
water
average
water
rate
about
36
a
month-
and
I
think
if
I
remember
correctly-
the
the
average
water
rate
was
about
40
a
month
at
that
time
had
we
included
pure
at
that
time
it
would
have
increased
another
few
dollars
and
if
my
numbers
are
slightly
off
apologize
to
whoever's
out
there,
I'm
speaking
with
covid
head
right
now.
H
But
but
then
we
asked
that
when
they
came
back
to
us
here
later,
we
asked
them
to
do
a
fuller
analysis
on
it
and
tell
us
the
total
cost
over
30
years
and
and
there's
a
presentation
which
you
can
watch
on
video.
Where
the
consultants
came
back
and
said,
it's
two
point
with
the
of
the
different
alternatives:
it's
2.1
to
6.3
billion
dollars,
and-
and
so
then
the
one
represented
the
water
department
spoke
at
a
neighborhood
association.
H
Someone
said:
isn't
it
isn't
it
going
to
cost
6
billion
and
maybe
double
our
water
rates?
If
you
use
the
same
correlation
of
2.9
billion
for
for
the
pipes
program
that
raised
the
bill
by
36,
if
it's,
if
it's
an
average
of
three
or
four
billion
for
the
cost
of
this,
that
should
raise
it
by
40
or
50
a
month,
and
those
are
just
my
rough
behind
the
napkin
calculations.
But
they
they
had.
The
water
apartment
person
said
laughed
and
said:
no
it'll
cost
several
hundred
million.
H
So
I
pointed
that
out
in
a
city
council
meeting,
and
I
got
a
scathing
letter
from
the
department
which
you
can
see,
which
said
that
I'm
misleading
the
public,
because
I'm
telling
the
public
the
total
cost,
instead
of
just
the
capital
cost,
and
that
I
should
that
I've
been
educated,
that
that
that
the
industry
standard
is
to
only
use
capital
costs
instead
of
total
cost.
H
And
I
have
worked
in
around
engineers
for
a
long
time,
and
I
know
that
that's
not
true,
and
so
the
the
truth
is
that
we
don't
know
if
you
saw
the
reset
press
this
week.
The
water
department
now
is
saying
we
don't
know
the
cost.
So
we're
not
going
to
comment
on
it
because
they
know
those
numbers
are
out
there.
H
The
reality
is,
we
didn't
have
an
honest
alternative
analysis
and
we
probably
won't
again
it
with
with
the
configuration
the
way
it
is.
But
if
you
just
look
at
the
estimates
they
were
given
us
before
and
compare
that
to
pipes.
My
rough
estimate
is
somewhere
between
40
and
50
dollars
a
month
for
the
average
user.
You
may
not
pay
extra,
but
an
average
user
would.
E
Just
maybe
I
could
respond
a
little
bit.
They
talk
about.
E
My
understanding
is,
there's
three
aquifers
are
shallow,
the
floridian
aquifer
and
then
there's
a
blind
aquifer.
Where
is
actually
the
aquifer
that
it's
going
to
be
pumped
because
I
use
well
water,
I
hate
for
my
shallow
well
to
be
contaminated.
D
Good
morning,
council,
my
number
one
issue
is
still
housing.
I
was
sitting
in
here
and
didn't
know
anything
about
pure
just
heard
you
know
remnants
of
it
and
because
I
didn't
know
anything
about
it.
My
question
was
just
like
the
the
legal
women
voters.
D
The
community
outreach
how
much
has
been
done,
not
just
with
the
numbers
but
really
education
in
regards
to
full
process.
What
ifs?
What
if
this
works?
What
if
this
doesn't
work?
What's
your
backup
plan
in
case
it
doesn't.
So
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
now
in
regards
to
this
peer
project,
and
if
everyone
back
here
has
questions
people,
that's
on
television
will
have
questions.
D
D
We
always
talk
about
transparency
and,
if
you,
if
the
administration
has
the
has
it
where
they
cannot
answer
a
question
from
the
community,
then
that's
a
problem
when
they
avoid
a
question
and
answer
from
the
about
a
question.
That's
a
problem!
So
I'm
just
here
to
say
that
I've
heard
community
outreach
reassurance
regulations
are
concerned.
D
When
you
see
it,
we
see
it
today.
Regulations
are
one
thing
one
minute
and
then
they're
lessened
or
down
the
line.
So
how
can
people
be
feel
safe
and
even
in
the
in
the
poor
communities
you
know
so
there's
there'll
be
mistrust
in
everything.
So
why
do
such
a
big
project
when
there's
questions
about
it
which
garner
mistrust
within
the
communities,
not
community,
but
communities
right?
So
that's
my
input
about
that.
But
my
number
one
issue
is
still
housing.
D
So
I'll
see
you
guys
soon
about
that,
but
thank
you
for
listening,
miss
jim.
C
C
But
you
know
I
always
give
people
the
flowers
while
they're
here-
and
I
know
you're
gonna-
be
here
today,
but
I
have
something
special
for
you
right
now.
I
believe
it's
special.
I
believe
my
colleagues
will
agree.
If
you
don't
mind,
mr
chairman,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
for
accommodation
to
community
activist
robin
lockett
presented
on
november
8th,
for
you
continue
ellison
work
and
god
bless
you
and
your
family.
N
T
P
I
bet
you're
surprised
to
see
me
here,
but
you
know
here
I
am
continuing
to
do
battle
for
this
unique
story
about
the
family
of
fourteen
children.
Seven
boys
and
seven
girls
all
born
and
raised
in
our
west
tampa
backyard,
and
I
know
soon
you're
going
to
be
asking
me
how
old
I
am
so
I'm
going
to
tell
you
if
next
year
in
august,
the
park
is
finished,
we
can
all
meet
there
to
celebrate
my
90th
birthday.
P
P
Although
I
come
to
you
in
appreciation
for
all
the
support
the
special
city
council
has
given.
I
also
come
to
you
somewhat
embarrassed
to
be
seeking
answers
to
the
same
questions
we
have
asked
for
so
very
many
times.
When
will
the
park
be
completed?
How
many
different
answers
we
have
been
given
to
the
same
question?
P
Is
it
so
difficult?
It
requires
so
much
time
and
effort
to
complete
this
particular
project.
The
city
of
tampa
has
done
these
parks
numerous
times
and
before
it
has
not
taken
17
years.
Certainly
we
are
overdue.
For
a
true
answer,
action
speaks
louder
than
words
and
no
action
speaks
a
true
statement.
P
P
In
addition
to
the
small
work,
though,
that
only
destroyed
the
basketball
court,
there's
been
left
a
mud
puddle
for
mosquitoes
to
breed
for
the
last
six
months,
untouched
and
uncared
for
the
armory
garden,
civic
community
that
surrounds
this
park
is
and
its
great
reward
with
president
sandy
sanchez
has
been
a
strong
voice
for
the
park.
The
community
has
grown
so
very
much
and
is
surrounded
with
vibrant
young
families,
with
children
seeking
and
needing
a
place
to
grow,
learn
play
and
be
free.
P
P
We
are
here
one
year
later,
with
the
fact
that
really
nothing
has
been
done
or
accomplished.
So
our
honorable
mayor,
jane
castro,
many
thanks
for
the
parks
honor.
You
acknowledge
and
extend
it
to
the
vita
family
in
your
support
for
this
park,
as
well
as
all
the
courtesies.
Your
administrative
staff
has
shown
to
us,
but
the
question
still
remains
unknown
for
the
answer
no
will
is
attached
to
this
question
only
pride
and
respect
for
our
leaders,
you,
who
carry
heavy
loads
for
our
peace
and
enjoyment
of
this
wonderful
city.
We
call
home.
P
This
park,
when
completed,
is
certain
to
become
the
home
of
the
free
because
of
the
raid
filled
with
the
air
of
freedom.
When
you
enter
its
grounds,
the
colors
of
red,
white
and
blue
waving
are
beautiful
flags
of
stars
and
stripes.
We
ask
god,
grant
this
world
peace
and
that
this
park
service
a
symbol
of
freedom
to
our
wonderful
city
of
tampa
hope
to
see
you
at
the
park.
But
until
then,
god
bless
america.
K
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chairman.
Good
morning,
mrs
bila,
you
shouldn't
feel
embarrassed.
I
think
the
whole
process
is
an
embarrassment.
E
K
K
K
There,
because
I
have
the
photos
and
the
videos
when
the
mayor
was
in
the
the
backhoe,
whatever
it
was
to
do
the
groundbreaking
and
again
that
mother's
day
weekend
was
a
deadline
and
that's
when
we
were
there
and
the
park
was
almost
to
full
completion,
but
it
was
open
to
the
public.
This
is
an
existing
park
because
I've
driven
by
villa
brothers
park.
I
remember
the
dedication
back
what
2005,
when
all
seven
brothers
were
alive
under
the
iowa
administration?
K
I
did
what
I
was
asked
to
do,
which
was
try
to
get
the
money
in
the
budget.
I
got
the
money
in
the
budget
with
the
graciousness
of
the
administration,
the
1.7
1.8
million
dollars
to
complete
it.
I
voted
for
the
budget.
We
passed
the
budget.
The
fiscal
year
ends
september
30th
and
begins
october
1st.
That
was
2021
october
1st
and
we're
approaching.
K
Budget
hearing
this
week
on
tuesday
for
the
next
budget.
Okay-
so
there's
no
excuse
that
this
should
be
held
up.
I
understand
that
there's
been
covered.
I
understand
the
the
catchphrase
supply
chain
issues.
This
is
a
part.
These
are
materials
that
are
being
sourced
within
the
united
states,
local
contractors-
I
would,
I
would
assume
you
know
you
have
come
here
many
times
I've
been
to
your
house,
the
mayor's
been
to
your
house.
We've
had
community
meetings.
I've
spoken
with
miss
sandy
sanchez,
other
people
in
the
neighborhood
that
have
been
on
top
of
this.
K
You
know,
as
you
say,
you're
turning
90
years
old
and
may
you
live
to
be
a
hundred
and
more,
but
time
is
of
the
essence.
We
need
to
get
this
done.
We've
been
there,
you
and
I
many
of
us
for
veterans
day
celebrations,
other
celebrations
in
the
park,
and
it's
and
it's
wonderful,
because
so
many
people
drive
by
drive
by
every
day
across
from
the
jcc
another
wonderful
project
and
the
name
vela
brothers.
That
means
so
much
to
this
community
and
the
sacrifice
that
they
made.
But
I
have
a
an
update
list.
K
You
know
that
we
should
stick
by
october,
2022,
installation
of
court,
fencing
and
lighting
installation
of
west
property
line
fence
november
ongoing
site
work,
we're
not
stopping
december
coordination
with
landscape,
irrigation
and
electrical
january
installation
of
playground
and
shelters
to
begin
which
have
already
been
ordered
from
my
understanding.
K
I
don't
know
four
months
ago,
maybe
around
april.
So
what's
the
hold
up
there
with
the
supply
chain,
if
they've
already
been
ordered
february,
installation
of
dog
park,
fencing,
fountains
and
artificial
turf,
installation
of
other
equipment,
picnic
tables,
trash,
receptacles
and
benches
modification
to
entry
gates
march
2023
completion
and
ribbon
cutting
march
march
2023
completely
finished
with
the
ribbon
cutting.
K
E
K
We've
done
our
due
diligence
at
city
council
trying
to
get
the
funding
which
we
got
the
funding
we
need
to
get
this
done
again.
Time
is
of
the
essence.
I
want
you
to
be
there.
I
want
your
two
brother-in-laws
to
be
there,
the
remaining
villa
brothers,
so
they
can
see
it
and
we
can
enjoy
this
part.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
L
Thank
you
very
much.
No,
I
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
hi
to
martha.
I
love
you
to
death,
you're
such
a
sweetheart
and
and
and
you
know
that
the
the
city
of
tampa
always
honors
your
family
and
your
service,
and
today,
in
fact,
72
years
ago,
lieutenant
baldomir
lopez
gave
all
and
inchon
in
korea
and
would
go
on
obviously
after
his
death
to
get
the
medal
of
honor.
I
believe
the
first
person
from
tampa
to
get
that.
L
So
you
know
in
our
hillsborough
county
area,
we
have
over
a
hundred
thousand
veterans
who
are
here
in
hillsborough
county.
We
are
a
very
patriotic
county,
a
very
patriotic
city,
and
we
always
remember
your
family,
including
your
wonderful
hector,
who
rests
now
at
florida,
national
cemetery
of
bushnell.
I
know
you're
always
so
proud
of
him
just
to
say
that
that
we
love
you.
I
love
you.
The
city
of
tampa
loves
you
and-
and
I
know
we're
all
going
to
fight
for
this
to
happen.
Thank
you.
P
I
have
cards
here
that
are
unusual
because
it
has
a
picture
of
the
seven
brothers
if
anybody
would
like
them
to
feel
welcome-
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
going
to
put
up
the
picture
that
was
taken
for
the
seven
brothers
we're
gonna
have
to
bring
it
down,
bring
it
down
my
husband's
favorite
thing
that
it
was
his
duty
to
his
country,
to
love
it,
to
support
its
constitution,
to
obey
its
laws
and
to
respect
its
flag
and
to
defend
her.
P
P
H
I'm
sorry
that
you've
had
to
go
through
this.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
time
and
you
and
others
have
described
the
the
problems.
All
I
can
do
is
apologize
that
that
I
didn't
work
harder
to
try
to
get
this
done.
I
know
we've
all
several
of
those
on
council
have
been
pushing
for
years,
and
it's
really
it's
really
despicable
that
that
two
administrations
have
used
this
as
a
political
phone
call.
H
This
is
a
park
that
honors
specific
veterans,
but
also
all
veterans
and-
and
I
would
just
appeal
to
the
humanity
of
the
administration,
to
the
to
the
to
the
ethics
of
the
administration.
To
please
get
this
done.
Here's
a
a
widow,
practically
begging
us
to
get
this
park
done,
and
it
should
have
been
done
under
the
last
administration.
This
is
our
chance
to
fix
this,
but
let's
not
be
disrespectful
anymore.
I'm
sorry
that
they've
used
this
as
a
political
football.
H
We
really
we
really
need
to
get
this
done
and-
and
I
will
always
continue
to
to
show
this
this
cup
to
recognize
and
talk
about
the
park
and
look
forward
to
seeing
you
there.
Thank
you
thank.
B
P
N
N
Then
later
we
were
told
only
400
000
had
been
spent,
but
the
worst
product
of
that
400
000
was
so
poor
that
we
had
to
start
over
again.
They
also
said
that
the
staff
and
members
of
the
public
had
seen
the
work
product
and
agreed.
I
have
yet
to
find
one
member
of
the
public
who
saw
that
work
product
we've
asked
to
see
it
and
we
still
haven't
seen
it
when
they
asked
for
more
money
in
july.
N
I
there
is
one
method
that
they
are
interested
in,
doing
putting
it
in
the
reservoir,
putting
it
in
the
lower
river,
putting
it
in
the
aquifer.
They
say
it
over
and
over
and
over
again,
and
then
they
compare
that
to
what
the
cities
out
west
do
the
cities
out
west
use
reverse
osmosis
and
uv.
They
it's
not
the
same
thing
and
they
have
an
arid
climate,
but
not
subtropical
their
needs
are
different
than
ours.
N
I
have
a
real
problem
with
the
fact
that
the
company
who's
going
to
build.
This
is
also
the
company
that
they've
hired
to
analyze.
What's
the
best
option,
what
could
go
wrong?
I
don't
know,
maybe
they're
going
to
expect
they're
going
to
choose
the
option,
that's
best
for
them.
Instead
of
the
option
that's
best
for
us,
we
had
an
announcement
from
juterna
that
only
cost
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
it
wasn't
perfect,
but
it
was
a
heck
of
a
lot
cheaper
than
a
million.
N
N
D
N
Good
morning,
sorry
about
that,
I
read
the
entire
agenda
as
I
try
and
do
every
week
and
I
publish
a
cheat
sheet
on
the
van
web.
Facebook
page
so
check
it
out.
It's
for
your
viewing
pleasure.
Let's
talk
about
item
number
70.
The
ethics
commission
report,
section
2-6,
51,
independent
decision
making.
Group
five
members
are
nominated
to
this
group:
the
ethics
commission,
the
hillsborough
county
bar
association,
nominates,
two
stetson
university,
nominates,
one,
the
dean
of
us
f
or
ut
nominates
another,
and
the
mayor
gets
one
pick
yeah.
N
There
was
nearly
125
000
spent
last
year
investigating
the
ethics
of
two
of
our
city
councilmen,
without
going
before
this
commission.
How
do
I
know
this?
Well,
miss
bricklemeyer,
the
chair
of
that
commission
said
in
april
that
they
hadn't
had
any
ethics
complaints
in
four
years,
who
ordered
the
expenditure
of
125
000
of
our
tax
dollars.
If
the
ethics
folks
did
not,
why
have
an
independent
body
when
they
are
being
utilized
when
they
aren't
being
utilized
as
the
independent
body
that
they
are?
I'd?
N
Ask
our
council
members
to
make
a
motion
that
city
funds
not
be
spent
on
ethics
investigations
in
the
future.
Without
the
request
of
this
commission,
it
seems
like
a
simple
solution
to
a
huge
problem.
That's
been
created
over
the
last
year.
I'd
also
like
to
see
a
second
motion
that
there
is
an
amendment
to
section
2-651
that
says
if
one
of
these
establishments
are
unable
to
nominate
someone
that
that
choice
be
moved
to
the
city
council
instead
of
the
mayor
that
way
it
is
totally
equitable
pure.
N
We
spent
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
our
money
tax
dollars,
we're
not
happy
with
it,
but
we
want
200
million.
We
want
2
million
dollars
more
for
stewardship
of
our
money,
to
say
the
least.
I
would
love
to
see
what
400
thousand
dollars
looks
like
I've,
never
spent
400
000
on
anything
before.
Is
it
an
inch
file
or
is
it
a
six
inch
file?
I
don't
know,
but
I
do
know
that
I
don't
like
to
see
our
money
wasted.
N
Four
hundred
or
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
two
thirds
of
the
sidewalk
budget
for
this
year
and
last
year,
each
separately,
the
storm
water
plans
on
seven
and
eight
I'd
like
to
thank
gene
strommeyer
for
working
her
butt
off
with
those
folks
to
make
this
look
like
a
beautiful
part
of
a
natural
park,
not
a
square
box
to
hold
water
in
and
protect
13-14.
N
I
think
we
need
this
protection
for
city
council
and
all
of
our
elected
officials
to
keep
them
from
being
sued.
Frivolously
number
58.
N
You
know
it
was
taken
off
the
agenda
which
kind
of
shocked
me
because
I
thought
it
kind
of
answered
one
of
miss
hertag's
or
councilwoman
her
tax
issues
last
week,
and
I
support
the
miele
brothers
park
just
for
gp.
Thank
you
have
a
good
day.
Thank.
B
O
Ahead
and
you
know
voice
my
public
opposition
to
pure
or
the
continuance
of
that,
and
I
also
wanted
to
give
my
support
so.
O
Sat
down
with
the
community
and
agreed
to
then
I
just
want
to
support
that
and
thanks
to
the
to
the
valerian
group
and
to
what's
the
other,
the
construction.
I
can't
think
right
now,
I'm
on
the
road,
but
but
thanks
to
john
simona
and
and
councilman
carlson
for
pure
and
for
helping
support
our
park
and
y'all.
Please
support
that
and
the
lower
that's
the
lower
peninsula
and
us
having
a
really
nice
part
for
the
community.
O
J
Miss
philly
good
morning,
council,
abby,
feely,
deputy
administrator
development
and
growth
management
and
I
believe,
through
the
power
of
technology,
jc
hutchinson,
our
building
official
is
remote
in
from
kentucky
he's
coming
back
from
the
international
code
council
conference
this
morning,
but
here
today,
just
to
give
you
a
brief
update
on
some
additional
changes,
we're
going
to
make
at
the
construction
services
division.
J
I've
heard
from
many
of
you
over
the
past
months
in
relation
to
permitting
taking
additional
time
numbers
of
comments
coming
in
and
starting
october
1.
We
are
going
to
be
implementing
what
we're
referring
to
as
a
sufficiency
checklist
and
that
will
really
start
to
change
the
intake.
That's
coming
in
to
the
department
right
now.
One
of
the
examples
I
gave
you
a
couple
months
ago
was
that
a
permit
may
come
in.
It
may
be
missing
its
energy
calculations.
It
may
be
missing
its
florida
product
approval.
J
J
So
I
think
it'll
end
up
being
a
win-win.
We're
going
to
start
messaging
this
in
the
next
two
weeks
through
our
sella
program
and
our
clients
to
let
them
know
what
is
forthcoming,
but
we
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
what
was
forthcoming
before
that
october
1
implementation
time.
So
here
today
happy
to
answer
any
questions:
hey
jc
and
jc.
Also,
if
you
have
anything
you'd
like
to
ask,
but
we're
continuing
to
improve
those
process,
I
know
you
supported
us
with
the
construction
activity.
J
Compliance
team
that
team
last
year
was
only
we
had
about
a
hundred
stop
work
orders
last
year
since
we've
put
the
cact
in
we're
doing
about
a
hundred.
Stop
work
orders
a
month
which
are
allowing
us
to
capture
permits
that
we're
not
being
applied
for
within
the
city.
So
jc
is
doing
a
great
job
just
wanted
to
come
and
share
that
information
with
you
this
morning
and
always
available.
Should
you
have
any
questions.
O
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
this.
I
know
your
team's
working
really
hard
on
it
and
just
the
fact
that
folks
are
going
to
have
a
checklist
before
they
even
get
started
is
wonderful.
I
know
you've
been
working
hard
on
on
trying
to
implement
these
types
of
programs,
and
I
I
just
thank
you
to
you
and
your
team.
O
I
know
you
wanted
to
get
in
front
of
us
now
so
that
you
could
so
that
we
could
get
the
public
to
to
learn
about
this
program,
and
I
hope
that
we're
going
to
send
out
things
with
communication
to
the
communications
team,
because
this
is
really
critical
and
it
really
helps
the
public.
But
what
it
really
does
is
help
staff
time,
so
they
don't
have
to
review
it.
A
third
time
truly
appreciate
it.
Thank
you
and
I
look
forward
to
maybe
an
update
in
six
months.
That
tells
us
how
it's
going
absolutely.
M
You,
mr
chairman,
I
appreciate
you
we're
trying
to
facilitate
and
help
the
system,
but
what
happened
the
same
people
you
were
facilitating
didn't
do
their
part,
not
all
of
them,
but
most
of
them.
Therefore,
you
had
the
backlog
and
the
changes
and
whatever
we
had
to
do
to
get
the
items
off
the
agenda.
So
I
appreciate
what
you're
trying
to
do.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Councilman.
C
Long
time
coming,
we've
talked
about
it
a
long
time.
I'm
glad
we're
going
to
implement
something.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
much
communications
out
to
these
folks.
We
know
it's
going
to
be
a
bump
in
the
road
because
well
that's
one
way,
you've
always
done
it,
but
sometimes
change
is
good.
So
just
make
sure
we
get
a
good,
robust
communication
going
on,
and
you
know
it
definitely
will
help
our
doctor
from
being
here
late
late
at
night
and
15
16
cases.
B
H
Well
I'll
go
ahead
and
state
this,
maybe
he
can
come
up.
I
want
to
let
my
colleagues
know
and,
and
the
public
know,
for
several
weeks
now,
I've
been
asking
the
administration
to
call
a
halt
to
the
attacks
against
city
council
members
and
we've.
H
We've
gathered
documented
evidence
now
that
the
that
the
mayor's
staff
have
been
including
doing
opposition
research
against
council
members,
coordinating
with
opponents
of
council
members
setting
council
members
up
against
each
other,
celebrating
attacks
against
city
council
members
et
cetera,
and
you
all
may
have
been
briefed
about
that
in
part.
But
last
week
there
was
another
attack
against
council,
former
council
member
john
dingfelder.
H
H
I
don't
know
if
my
legislative
aide
is
there,
but
she
has
three
pages
that
I'd
like
to
pass
out
if
she's
available
the
first
one
is
the
contract
that
or
or
the
the
the
letter
to
proceed
with
the
with
the
for
the
investigation
of
former
council
member
and
and
the
second
two
are
copies
of
the
and
highlights
of
the
the
charter
which
I,
which
I
reviewed
when
city
attorney
zellman
was
confirmed
a
couple
weeks
ago.
H
There's
no
first
I'd
like
to
call
for
the
attacks
against
city
council
to
end
and
I'd
like
the
leaks
to
stop
and
the
the
behind
the
scenes
attacks
to
to
stop.
Second,
ms
zellman
who's.
Now
online.
I
see
confirmed
in
her
confirmation
that
that
city
council
by
charter
is
one
of
her
clients.
H
The
previous
city
attorney
approved
this
review
that
you
all
are
seeing,
and
so
it
was
under
under
different
head,
not
ms
zellman,
but
it
could
be
that
the
last
city
attorney
didn't
think
that
city
council
was
a
client
attacking
a
former
city
council
member
is
hurts
the
city
council
itself
by
part
of
our
rules.
There
should
be
no
investigation
or
attack
of
a
city
council
member
without
having
some
kind
of
heads
up
about
that.
I
at
least
was
not
giving
a
heads
up
about
this
investigation.
H
H
I
would
just
call
on
the
administration
to
stop
these
attacks
and
for
the
mayor
to
apologize
any
any
reasonable
administration.
If
the
mayor
was
not
personally
involved
in
not
personally
directing
this,
any
reasonable
administration
would
step
up
be
horrified
by
this.
Stop
it
probably
let
some
people
go
change,
the
processes,
so
this
doesn't
happen
and
they
work
to
rebuild
relationships
with
city
council.
I
would
ask
that
we
bring
on
the
agenda.
H
I
don't
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
bring
on
the
agenda
for
october
6
for
the
during
administrative
update
for
the
chief
of
staff
to
explain
why
these
investigations
gone
without
city
council
approval,
why
contracts
are
being
passed
without
city
council
approval
and
why
expenditures
are
being
made
without
city
council
approval
when
the
charter
does
not
allow
that
further
I'd,
like
the
chief
of
staff,
to
explain
the
mayor's
position
on
whether
the
mayor
is
willing
to
call
a
halt
to
these
attacks
or
not,
I'm
not
asking
for
a
legal
opinion.
N
And
I
apologize
like
councilman
carlson
I'm
getting
over.
Well,
I'm
ahead
of
him.
I
think
I'm
getting
over
covet,
I'm
at
the
stage
where
I
have
to
wear
a
mask.
So
rather
than
trying
to
speak
to
you
through
a
mask
in
the
chambers,
I
thought
I'd
stay
in
my
office
and
appear
virtually
councilman.
I
would
ask
you,
you
know
you
keep
talking
about
attacks
on
councilman.
N
You
know,
we've
listened
to
you
over
and
over
again
attacked
gina
grimes
attacked
the
administration,
and-
and
I
you
know
again
when
I
talked
about
a
reset-
I
meant
for
all
of
that.
To
stop
I
mean
we,
we
don't
gain
anything
talking
to
each
other.
That
way,
I
I
tried
to
talk
with
you
in
more
detail
in
person,
but
we
weren't
able
to
do
that
or
by
phone
I
should
say,
but
but
just
let
me
briefly
explain
to
those
listening
I'd
rather
I'd
rather
listen.
H
That
comment,
because
I've
asked
for
the
administration
to
draw
a
line
that
said
stop,
but
once
the
mayor
apologizes,
I
will
stop
bringing
up
these
highlights,
but
as
long
as
they
continue
like
they
did
last
week,
I'm
going
to
highlight
it
for
the
public
because
the
public
is
fed
up
with
that
party.
We
needed
to
stop
well.
I.
N
P
N
Office
and
the
litigation
was
ongoing.
She
was
receiving.
She
received
a
letter
from
the
attorney
representing
mr
michelini,
that
outlined
several
alleged
violations
of
state
law
and
the
city
ethics
code
that
he
had
uncovered,
or
he
alleged
he
had
uncovered
in
the
text,
messages
and
emails
provided
by
mr
dink
felder.
When
our
office
reviewed
mr
ding
felder's
text
messages
and
emails,
we
too
discovered
what
we
believed
to
be
violations
of
the
city
ethics
code.
N
Around
that
same
time,
mr
ding
felder
resigned.
Our
office
was
faced
with
the
question
about
whether
we
had
an
obligation
to
report
those
allegations
to
the
state
or
to
or
to
anybody
we
were.
It
was
a
murky
question.
We
were
unclear
of
unclear
about
miss
grimes
contacted
the
florida
bar,
their
advice
was
to
have
an
outside
council.
Do
an
investigation.
We
also
spoke
with
the
county
attorney
and
others
in
local
government,
and
they
said
the
same
thing,
but
it
shouldn't
be
our
office
answering
the
question.
N
N
N
The
second
part
of
the
report
arose
because,
after
his
resignation,
councilman
former
councilman
dean
felder
contacted
some
city
employees
about
a
development
project
with
which
he
originally
said.
He
had
a
client,
then
he
said
it
was
a
friend,
but
in
any
event
he
was
asking
to
meet
with
city
employees.
N
We
told
councilman
dingfelder
what
the
city
ethics
code
said
about
that
he
continued
to
disagree
with
us,
and
we
said
you
know:
we've
already
retained
outside
counsel,
we'll
have
them
prepare
a
legal
opinion
outlining
what
the
city
ethics
code
says
about.
Post-Employment
contact
with
the
city,
that's
the
sum
and
substance
of
the
investigation
of
the
report
that
was
prepared
by
judge
holtner.
I
think
it's
very
straightforward,
I'm
glad
to
answer
more
questions
about
it,
but
there
was
no
intent
to
further
embarrass
councilman,
ding
felder
to
do
anything
negative
toward
him.
We
felt
our
office
felt.
I
I
E
I
We
have
not
done
any
official
business,
that's
on
the
agenda
official
action
and
it
is
now
9
30
public
hearings
have
been
set
and
we
can
change
these
rules
of
procedure.
These
are
your
rules.
This
is
your
meeting
and
certainly
my
job
is
to
be
able
to
support
this
city
council,
and
I
just
want
to
be.
I
B
I
I
I
just
want
to
express
my
concern:
I'm
not
taking
any
position
one
way
or
the
other.
We
can
get
to
that
further
down
the
road,
but
I
just
want
to
be
clear
as
to
what
my
role
is,
because
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
counsel.
Yet
you
have
your
rules
of
procedure
and
my
role
has
traditionally
been
to
bring
them
to
your
attention
to
make
sure
that
they
are
consistently
and
transparently
adhered
to.
H
N
B
K
K
That's
clearly
a
joke,
but
we
have
to
move
forward
together.
What's
been
done
in
the
past,
allegedly,
yes,
no,
the
mayor
here
there,
whatever
we
can't
go
back
in
time,
we
have
to
put
it
to
bed.
I
like
to
be
friends
with
everybody.
I
think
I'm
friends
with
most
people.
I
can't
tell
you
that
I
have
an
enemy
and
people
have
done
good
and
bad
things
to
me.
I
try
to
get
along
with
folks,
so
we
can
move
forward
together.
I'm
just
tired
of
this
drama.
I
want
to
get
things
done.
K
I
want
to
serve
the
public
and
the
community.
We
have
villa
brothers
part.
We
have
so
many
other
pressing
issues
we
have
pure.
We
have
so
many
other
discussion
items
on
this
agenda
today,
I'm
not
going
to
waste
time
continuing
to
fight
whether
I
go
to
the
mayor
myself.
I
sit
down
with
other
council
members,
try
to
mediate,
it's
not
my
job
to
do
so,
but
we
are
better
than
this.
We
have
to
move
forward
together
as
a
as
a
unified
body
and
just
get
the
work
of
the
people
done.
Thank
you.
L
Councilman
fiera,
thank
you,
mr
chairman,
and,
and
you
know,
council
members
have
a
right
to
be
heard.
Have
a
right
to
make
motions,
have
a
right
to
ask
questions,
and
my
only
my
issue
with
this
motion
is
that
it's
loaded
with
a
number
of
accusations
that
I
have
that
that
we
haven't
seen
issu
the
the
the
the
background
on.
I
don't
want
to
vote
for
something
that's
loaded
like
that.
What
I
would
respectfully
suggest
is
to
my
colleague
is
that
whenever
the
administration
update
comes,
they
have
received
the
questions
they
have
received
your
statement.
L
They
should
be
ready
to
answer
it,
so
it
can
be
done,
but
to
have
a
formal
motion
that
would
have
by
virtue
of
of
supporting
it
counsel,
adopt
it,
I
think,
is
something
that
would
be
troublesome.
I
I
do
also
agree
respectfully
with
councilman
maniscalco.
I
understand
there's
past
grievances.
I
understand
that
there
are
concerns
and
I
want
to
respect
the
voices
of
all
of
all
of
us
in
that
regard,
but
I
I
continue
to
stress
the
term.
De-Escalation.
L
I've
done
that
myself,
which
is
that
whenever
there
are
disagreements
on
council,
I
try
to
stay
in
my
own
lane
whenever
it
comes
to
that
and
try
to
be,
as
as
I
always
try
to
be,
which
is
as
civical
as
civil
as
amicable,
etc,
etc.
As
I
can
so
again
with
regards
to
councilman
carlson's
concerns,
I
would
respectfully
say
that
by
voting
for
this,
there
are
a
number
of
allegations
in
there
that
we
would
be
adopting,
but
that
this
can
be
addressed.
L
O
I
see
both
sides.
I
do
agree
that
that
we
need
to
move
forward,
but
if
there
are
changes
we
need
to
make
to
clarify
things
which
I
think
is
at
the
heart
of
what
he's
asking
for,
because
these
this
is
from
the
charter.
So
I
think
that
we
should
talk
about
this
during
the
charter
workshop
on
september
22nd.
I
think
it's
another
thing
that
we
need
to
bring.
I
have
heard
the
questions.
O
There
is
not
clarity
in
some
of
these
sections,
so
I
I
agree
with
that:
let's
bring
it
up
in
the
charter
workshop,
let's
discuss
it
there.
I
will
support
this
motion
just
because
I
agree
that
there
are
some
some
items
that
need
clarity
and
I'm
going
to
look
at
it
from
that
point
and
I
don't
feel
like
we're
ever
going
to
move
forward
until
we
have
clarity.
M
Mr
chair
miranda,
thank
you
very
much.
I,
mr
miniskow,
just
about
took
all
the
words
that
I
was
going
to
say.
We
are
a
bad
baseball
team
because
you
can't
win
because
we
want
to
argue
about
who's
going
to
bet.
First
and
second,
this
is
not
a
baseball
game.
This
is
not
a
football
game.
These
are
the
lives
of
400
000
people.
M
When
you
continue
to
bring
it
up
and
you
threaten
to
say
I'm
going
to
call
the
authorities,
he
said.
No,
damn
authorities
have
showed
up.
That
means
you
haven't
done
it
yourself,
the
only
one
to
know
the
truth.
Here
are
the
two
individuals
that
were
mentioned.
Not,
I
not
anyone
else,
not
anyone
here
in
this
room,
not
anyone
in
this
whole
city,
but
the
two
individuals,
all
the
only
ones
that
know
the
story,
because
if
I
was
guilty.
M
That
was
how
I
was
brought
up
so
once
you
resign,
I
don't
know
how
or
why
or
whatever,
I'm
not
here
to
cast
stones
on
anyone,
but
I'm
not
going
to
let
the
city
get
run
down
week
after
week
after
week
on
indie
windows-
and
I
want
to
have
this-
and
I
want
to
do
that.
This
guy
did
that,
and
I
don't
care
about
the
guy
who
wrote
a
damn
thing
about
me
on
the
internet.
I
don't
even
look
at
the
internet
and
I
think
everybody
knows
who
I'm
talking
about.
M
So
what
I'm
saying
is:
let's
stop
playing
politics.
They
talk
about
politics,
stop
it
on
both
sides.
This
is
a
city.
That's
got
to
continue
to
go
forward.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
to
do
because
we're
city
on
the
move
that
doesn't
mean
we're
leaving.
That
means
we're
growing
and
no
city
and
today's
prize
that
you
have
in
america.
M
That's
satisfied
with
where
they're
at
is
a
city,
that's
losing
population
and
is
dying
and
there's
a
lot
of
them,
including
san
francisco.
So
what
I'm
saying
is:
let's
get
the
marbles
together?
There's
an
agenda
here.
You
want
to
argue
with
somebody:
go
find
a
lawsuit
if
you
think
you're
right.
Let
me
tell
you
about
me
if
I'm
accused
of
a
cri,
I
don't
there's
an
item
on
this
agenda
about
somebody
paying
insurance
for
me.
M
I
Mr
chairman-
and
this
is
ms
zellman
and
ms
zelman-
are
you
still
online
there's
a
motion
on
the
floor
and
a
second
is
that
correct?
Do
you
need.
H
D
H
To
put
on
the
agenda
for
the
workshop
date,
where
we
will
be
discussing
charter
amendments
to
discuss
why
or
if
the
city
attorney
or
other
parties
in
the
city
should
be
able
to
approve
contracts
and
pay
payments
to
outside
parties
without
council
approval.
I
Ms
zellman,
we
we
talked
about
the
policy
of
the
previous
of
previous
city
attorney
saltorito
and
a
memo
that
he
had
put
out.
I
think
that's
relevant
to
the
discussion.
Would
you
agree.
N
Yeah,
I
believe,
you're
talking
about
the
city
attorney's
ability
to
settle
lawsuits.
I
believe
that's
already
scheduled
for
discussion
in
november,
but
I
don't
necessarily
object
to
discussing
it
at
the
time
of
the
charter
workshop.
We
can
hopefully
clear
up
a
lot
of
misunderstandings
about
these
topics.
I
I
I
think
it
was
2018
actually
after
the
budget
after
the
the
charter
review.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
C
I
second
it,
but
I
always
want
to
make
something
clear
when
she
was
appointed.
I
made
my
statements.
I
said
what
I
had
to
say:
I'm
done
with
it.
I
have
a.
I
have
legal
counsel.
I
have
a
legal
team,
I'm
here,
because
I
know
I've
done
nothing
wrong
period,
so
I'm
done
with
it
and
we'll
deal
with
those
situations
personally
outside
with
my
legal
team
when
those
when
the
time
comes
amid
with
the
city
or
any
other
individuals.
So
you
make
that
clear.
I'm
done
with
it
here,
I'm
here
for
the
people's
business.
C
B
B
B
B
T
Good
morning,
city
council,
gene
duncan
administrator
of
infrastructure
mobility-
we're
here
today
for
the
continuous
request
for
the
item
related
to
the
pure
project.
T
And
I'll
just
I'll
just
start
without
it,
the
main
problems
we're
trying
to
solve
are
maintaining
healthy
river
flows.
We
need
a
certain
amount
of
water
to
flow
into
the
lower
hillsborough
river
below
the
dam
to
keep
our
fish
alive,
our
seagrasses
growing
or
manatees
visiting.
T
We
have
to
drought,
proof
our
water
supplies,
there's
limitations
on
what
we
can
buy
from
others,
such
as
tampa
bay,
water.
We
have
to
self-supply
a
certain
amount.
We
haven't
had
a
drought
in
a
long
time,
so
we
don't
think
we're
like
california,
we
don't
think
we're
like
colorado
river,
but
there
is
climate
change
and
no
one
knows
exactly
if
that's
going
to
be
an
extreme
of
drought
and
extreme
flooding
or
back
and
forth.
T
So
we
have
to
be
prepared
to
look
to
the
future
and
our
third
problem
we
need
to
solve
is
the
state
law.
Maybe
the
state
law
will
go
away
and
it
won't
need
to
be
met,
but
currently
that
is
the
law
and
our
protocol
is
to
follow
laws
and
regulations,
and
that
was
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
so.
Those
problems
are
very
multifaceted,
as
I
said,
they're
very
complex.
They
take
many
years
to
solve,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
solving
this
in
the
next
year
or
two.
T
T
We
have
what
we
call
the
one
water
approach
now
and
one
water
is
that
we
have
one
water
source.
We
have
one
water
cycle,
it's
a
closed
water
cycle,
as
we
all
know,
from
probably
third
grade
science,
the
water
gets
evaporated
into
the
clouds,
the
rain
back
down.
We
use
that
water,
the
water
goes
into
the
bays,
the
rivers,
the
oceans
goes
back
up
into
the
sky,
so
there's
only
one
source
of
water
and
it's
not
forever.
T
So
we
feel,
as
the
city
of
tampa
is
our
responsibility
to
look
to
the
future,
to
plan
ahead,
to
make
the
best
decisions
possible
for
our
citizens.
This
tampa
water
department
has
had
a
history
of
100
years
of
providing
safe,
reliable
water
and
that's
what
we
plan
to
continue
to
do.
There's
no
interest
on
our
part
whatsoever
to
do
anything
that
is
unsafe.
We
completely
agree
with
the
comments
we
heard
this
morning.
Safety
is
the
utmost
top
priority
for
us,
of
course,
with
reliability
as
well.
T
The
epa
does
have
requirements
that
they
put
out
that
they
suggest
that
we
meet.
We
also
have
chemical
companies
that
need
to
do
their
part
and
not
be
disposing
these
chemicals
into
the
water
to
put
them
on
the
municipalities
to
have
to
clean
up,
but
we're
working
with
those
agencies.
We
know
epa
is
in
the
process
of
developing
regulations.
Now
we'll
continue
to
follow
any
regulations
that
come
along
to
meet
or
exceed
those
any
alternative
that
we
choose
will
have
any
kind
of
technology.
That's
available,
ion
exchange,
carbonated
filters,
reverse
osmosis,
we're
looking.
T
We
will
look
at
all
of
those
options
to
give
the
base
the
best
safe,
alternative
possible
and
again
we
apologize
that
the
the
worry
and
the
conversation
and
the
basic
human
reaction
of
I
don't
want
this,
because
I
don't
understand
it.
We
regret
that
that's
gotten
ahead
of
the
process
we're
trying
to
follow.
We
said
from
the
very
beginning
from
the
very
first
council
meeting
when
there
was
a
reaction
to
us
jumping
too
quickly
too
fast.
T
So
again
I
apologize
to
get
on
a
bit
of
a
soapbox.
I
just
want
to
give
a
little
context
to
why
we're
asking
for
this
continuance
so
I'll
land
with
that
we
have
a
continuance
of
an
item
that
was
to
add
additional
expanded,
alternative
analysis
to
what
we
had
already
started.
To
look
at
solving
these
three
problems.
T
It
added
expanded
and
enhanced
robust
public
engagement.
You
heard
the
great
comments
about
the
mcdo
48
park
as
part
of
lower
peninsula.
We
did
a
great
job.
Obviously,
with
that
public
engagement,
we've
done
great
public
engagement
on
other
projects.
We
can
do
that
with
this
project
if
we
just
get
a
chance
to
get
a
proper
contract
in
place
to
do
that
work
so
again
we're
asking
for
a
continuance
of
the
item
that
was
continued
back
in
july.
T
The
council
chose
to
continue
that
item
back
in
july,
and
so
here
we
are
today
in
the
meanwhile
from
from
july,
we've
realized
in
talking
with
the
dep
with
swiftman
and
with
tampa
bay
water,
who
is
seriously
injured
interested
in
this
project
that
we
need
more
time
to
get
their
inputs
back.
So
when
we
do
come
back
with
that
amendment,
we
have
all
of
that
technical
information
baked
in.
O
Got
several
things
so
overwhelmingly.
What
we've
heard
from
the
public
today
is
that
they
don't
want
this
and
they
want
it
to
end.
So
I'm
just
going
to
start
by
saying
I
do
not
support
continuing
this.
I
just
support
taking
the
money
off-
let's,
let's
just
let's
roll
it
back.
O
I
want
to
start
from
the
beginning
by
saying
the
concern
tampa:
residents
and
organizations
such
as
sierra
club,
the
friends
of
the
river
and
the
legal
women
voters,
presented
a
series
of
questions
about
the
pure
plan
that
have
yet
to
be
answered.
I
have
passed
those
17
questions
to
all
my
colleagues
this
morning
and
I
am
moving.
My
very
first
motion
is.
O
Can
I
second
yeah:
can
I
just
anybody
I,
but
before
before,
we
go
any
further
about
the
vote
on
that?
The
reason
for
this
is
because
I
hear
the
frustration
of
the
community
and
giving
these
questions,
and
so
in
order
to
actually
give
a
deadline.
O
Say
let's
hear
about
what
what
these
questions
are
very
specific,
I'll
read
just
a
couple
and
then
they
will
be
in
the
record
for
the
public
to
see,
but
I've,
even
what
I've
done
is
I've
actually
pulled
them
out
and
and
put
them
into
bulleted
questions
so
that
every
single
question
is
answered.
So
the
first
one
is
what
remains
in
the
wastewater
after
it
has
been
treated
now.
O
What
are
the
levels
of
chemicals,
metaphor,
metals,
pfas,
proa
hormones,
pathogens
and
nutrients
that
are
presently
contained
in
and
remain
in
the
wastewater
after
it
has
been
treated
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
presently
discharged
into
tampa
bay,
and
when
you
answer
those
questions,
if
you
could
also
spell
out
the
acronyms
for
people
that
would
be
really
helpful
number
four.
How
much
will
pure
cost
specifically,
what
are
the
projected
a
construction
costs
and
be
operating
and
maintenance
costs
over
the
next
40
years?
How
will
pure
be
paid
for?
O
B
M
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
I'm
not
in
disagreement
with
you.
I
think
this
is
a
clarity
on
items,
but
after
you
make
your
motion
and
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
pass,
I
like
to
make
the
same
motion
on
how
we're
treating
river
water
and,
what's
in
the
river
water,
that
we
have
to
treat.
Are
there
any
viruses
there
like
polio
viruses?
Are
there
any
type
of
viruses?
Are
the
copic
viruses
going
into
the
truth-sharing
treatment
plan,
other
things
that
are
viruses
that
are
there
now?
M
Possibly
I'm
not
saying
they're
there,
because
I
don't
know
and
then
there's
another
question:
is
there
any
other
entity?
That's
dumping
water,
close
to
where
the
green
swamp
any
cities
to
the
east
of
us
or
territories
that
are
dumping
water
into
the
green
swamp
that
is
contaminated
or
more
contaminated
than
what
the
motion
was
by
miss
hertag
and
I'd
like
to
have
those
questions
asked
in
the
scene.
May
I
say,
may
I
add
that
to
your
emotion
absolutely.
I
appreciate
everything
I
add
that
to
the
so
we
have
one
compelling
motion.
M
T
B
H
E
A
B
B
I
O
Okay,
I
can
make
her.
I
can
make
a
motion
for
that
too.
I'm
I
I
make
a
motion
that
we
vote
no
on
continuing
this,
because
the
citizens
are
telling
us
they
don't
want
it,
and
if
we
need
something
like
this,
okay,
I'm
I'm
just
gonna
keep
going,
and
then
I
will.
I
will
explain
why
I
want
no
sorry.
O
B
T
O
Another
question
that
the
public
had
asked
is
where
what,
before
I
was
here
in
february,
council
approved
1.2
million
dollars,
I
believe
to
to
start
this
process
of
engaging
with
the
community.
From
my
understanding,
only
a
small
portion
of
that
funding
has
been
utilized
and
everyone
is
asking.
Where
has
that
money
gone?
Can
you
please
provide
us
an
answer?
First
of
all
of
where
that
money
has
gone.
T
Yes,
so
the
amount
that
was
approved
for
the
contract
was
I'll
just
round
it.
If
that's
okay,
a
little
over
1.1
million
dollars,
we
have
spent
a
little
more
than
252
000
and
so
there's
approximately
880
000
left
on
that
original
contract
that
was
approved
in
december
january
february
february.
Thank
you
apologize
so
just
quickly,
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
done
with
that
money.
I
have
a
whole
list.
T
I
could
send
to
you
all
if
you
like,
but
we've
developed
five
potential
alternatives
attempt
to
be
water,
worked
with
their
staff,
they're
interested
in
potentially
purchasing
20
million
gallons
a
day
of
reclaimed
water
from
us.
We've
worked
with
tampa
water
on
modeling
to
keep
the
hills
of
river
full.
T
We
started
discussions
with
tempe
water
and
swift
mud
and
how
this
might
increase
the
cooperative
funding,
swiftmont
and
tampa
bay.
Water
are
interested
in
the
regional
benefit
that
this
project
could
provide,
and
we
have
five
other
member
governments
that
could
benefit
ultimately
from
the
project
we've
drafted
a
matrix
for
evaluating
alternatives
similar
to
the
matrix
tampa
water
uses
to
select
alternative
master
plan
projects.
T
We
have
continued
monthly
stakeholder
meetings,
which
you've
heard
about
from
the
sierra
club
and
others,
and
part
of
the
time
that
we've
spent
since
february
has
been
reworking
our
public
engagement
plan,
of
which
we
were
here
today
as
a
continuance
now
to
try
to
get
that
in
place,
because
we
clearly
need
to
have
appropriate
engagement.
We
want
the
input
from
the
community.
We
also
want
to
share
facts
and
information,
and
not
just
have
them
have
to
learn
things
off
of
sources
that
maybe
aren't
quite
so
accurate.
T
So
that's
part
of
the
dilemma
that
we're
facing
it's,
the
chicken
and
the
egg
we're
trying
to
get
out
the
starting
gate.
Basically,
we've
also
had
a
number
of
discussions
with
swift
mud.
The
hillsborough
river
board,
regarding
how
pure
could
help
the
minimum
flows
for
the
hillsborough
river
we've
discussed
just
just
continuing
to
discharge
at
the
howard
f
current
treatment
plant
as
an
environmental
benefit
that
we
want
to
request
a
opinion
on
from
dep.
T
We've
worked
on
enhanced
source
control.
We've
talked
to
some
industry
facilities
that
are
discharging
to
talk
to
them
about
improving
their
water
quality.
So
again,
it's
not
on
the
taxpayers
and
on
the
water
system
to
treat
other
water.
That's
coming
to
us
and
we've
started
developing
a
pilot
plan
again
we're
trying
to
look
at
other
technologies
such
as
the
ion
exchange.
So
we
have
a
pilot
started
to
further
analyze
and
study
that,
because
that
could
be
a
great
benefit
to
the
safety
component.
T
T
O
I
I'm
sure
the
public
would
would
love
an
itemized
list
of
how
the
money
is
being
spent
and
and
so
if
it
would
be
great
to
get
that
list,
but
also
attach
the
list
how
much
money
was
spent
on.
That
is
that
staff
time
is
that,
like
you
mentioned
something
about
drafting
a
letter
to
dep.
Yes,
is
that
letter.
O
From
my
understanding,
working
with
the
stakeholders,
you
are
trying
to
ask
dep
for
a
an
appeal
saying
that
we
don't
just
finding
out
if
we
actually
really
need
to
sorry
stop
stop
putting
our
outflow
into
the
bay.
T
Yes,
we
want
to
ask
the
question
as
to
whether
our
discharge
could
be
considered
as
a
beneficial
use
to
the
bay.
We
do
have
a
highly
treated
wastewater
discharge.
Thank
you
again.
It
was
a
cutting
edge
at
the
time
in
the
1980s,
and
there
was
controversy
then
about
why
we
have
to
spend
the
money
on
this.
So
we've
always
prided
ourselves
on
being
cutting
edge.
T
We
want
to
ask
the
question
to
the
dep
is
our
addition.
Can
our
discharge
be
considered
a
beneficial
use,
but
we
also
want
to
do
that
in
concert
with
the
stakeholders
on
how
we
decide
to
ask
a
question:
we're
plenty
to
share
apologize
for
my
voice
plenty
to
share
that
draft
with
the
council
before
it's
sent,
which
is
approximately
within
a
week
or
two
that
we
plan
to
do
that.
O
Okay,
so
you're
gonna
bring
that
back
to
us
to
share
it
with
us
and
the
stakeholders.
Yes,
before
it's
sent.
Okay,
I
would
love
to.
I
would
love
if
you
brought
to
the
stakeholders
first
and
then
we
got
feedback
from
both
you
and
the
stakeholders
before
we
sent
that
question.
Certainly.
B
R
B
To
councilwoman
hertag's
point
the
the
the
reintroduction
to
this
water
into
the
bay,
with
the
exception
of
piney
point
and
the
loss
of
seagrasses
because
of
tidal
flow
going
up
and
down
the
up
the
upper
bay.
Our
bay
is
the
cleanest.
It's
been
in
50
years.
M
O
But
we
actually
do
have
a
presentation
coming
in
front
of
us
on
november
3rd
from
the
tampa
bay
estuary
program
to
talk
about
how
seagrasses
are
actually
dying.
So
that's
because
the
tidal
flow
well
and
again
we're
it's
it's
all
connected
right,
I
mean
so
I
we
expect
that
letter
with
with
input
from
the
stakeholders
and
pretty
much
from
now
on
everything
that
we
in,
in
my
opinion,
that
we
talk
about
that
has
to
do
with
anything
having
to
do
with
this
water.
O
I'm
going
to
want
to
have
a
stakeholder
attachment
to
it,
because
this
we,
our
stakeholders,
have
an
incredible
amount
of
knowledge.
They
aren't
just
people
we,
the
street.
These
folks
have
you
know
hundreds
of
years
of
experience
together.
O
But
I
I
do
want
to
I'm
trying
I'm
trying
this
to
me.
This
is
an
issue
of
accountability
in
my
day
job.
I
work
on
midterm
evaluations
on
of
projects
to
establish
whether
progress
is
being
made
and
if
funding
should
continue
to
flow
to
these
projects.
I
see
no
evidence
that
any
real
progress
is
being
made
on
this,
because
we
don't
have
the
numbers
in
front
of
us.
O
I
don't
see
anything
other
than
than
conversation
and
I
I'm
just
not
going
to
support
further
funding
of
it
at
this
time
or
I'm
just
not
going
to
support
for
the
funding
of
it
period.
I
am
moving
that
we
direct
the
remaining
unspent,
eight
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
allocated
in
february
to
solely
answering
the
question
of
what
results
from
moving
forward
with
the
status
quo
on
the
following
issues:
the
unfunded
state
mandate
about
wastewater,
the
hillsborough
river
minimum
flows
and
drought-proofing
the
reservoir.
O
O
We
already
have
a
contract
signed
to
give
money
to
this
organization
to
analyze
both
the
best
and
worst
case
scenarios
of
continuing
with
the
status
quo
on
senate
bill
64,
the
unfunded
mandate
from
the
state
minimum
flows
on
the
hillsborough
river
and
drought
proofing
the
reservoir,
and
I
want
this
to
come
back
during
a
workshop
session
on
april
27
2023,
so
that
we
can
have
community
input.
O
Additionally,
I
would
also
ask
that
staff
keep
counsel,
briefed
and
up
to
date
between
now
and
when
pscl
comes
back
with
its
findings
and
last
not
but
not
least,
with
this
new
florida,
dep
regulation
or
question
that
the
stakeholders
and
us
are
going
to
have.
I
also
ask
that
staff
come
back
on
november
3rd
during
the
administration
update
with
feedback
from
the
florida
dep.
Regarding
the
beneficial
use
question
about
our
discharge,.
K
B
R
E
S
O
Yes
and
I
I've
had
I've,
had
conversations
with
staff
that
have
said
that
they
do
not
disagree
with
my
motion
that
they
are
happy
to
work
on
modifying
the
contract
to
to
answer
my
questions.
Thank.
I
O
Yes,
I'm
sorry
I
this!
This
is
not
a.
This
is
not
just
a
like
throwing
it
out
there,
I'm
trying
to
work
with
everyone.
I
asked
the
question
if
we
could
move
the
money
and
if
we
could
reallocate
it
to
this
simple
question,
because
to
me
the
simple
question
that
everyone
is
asking
us
is:
do
we
need
this,
and
so
this
is
to
me
using
the
contract.
We
already
have
to
answer
the
questions.
O
What
are
the
best
and
worst
case
scenarios
if
we
just
keep
doing
what
we're
already
doing,
which
is
what
the
public
is
asking
us
to
do,
just
keep
doing
what
we're
already
doing.
They
don't
want
this,
so,
let's
find
out
what
the
best
and
worst
case
scenarios
are.
If
we
just
keep
the
status
quo.
Yes,.
T
T
B
T
Thank
you.
So,
yes,
that
the
request
is
within
the
scope.
That's
been
negotiated
and
approved
by
council.
We
have
certain
flexibilities
in
within
these
scopes
to
make
adjustments.
We
can
certainly
make
that
adjustment
within
this
approved
scope,
morrison's
talking
about
the
bigger
process,
but
yes,
this
is
a
housekeeping
type
activity
that
we
can
do
within
that
scope.
We'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
I
appreciate
that.
C
C
Doing
that
I
mean
so
I
I
was
curious
when
he
said
that,
so
I
see
a
bigger
scope,
but
if
we
pay
so
many
dollars
and
this
council
is
approved-
and
things
are
not
right
and
this
kind
of
comes
to
you
and
says
something's
not
right,
we
want
you
to
go
back
and
look
at
this
contract
and
modify
if
king
over
verges.
I
think
we
should
be
allowed
the
opportunity
to
do
that
or
we
should
be
able
to
do
that.
T
H
Thank
you,
sir.
The
question
that
council
member
hertac
brought
up
and
sorry
I'm
losing
my
voice.
The
public
wants
to
know.
Do
we
need
this?
The
simple
answer
is:
no.
We
don't
need
it
and
I
think,
just
about
everybody
who's
sitting
behind
the
podium
there
would
would
be
able
to
at
least
agree
with
that.
The
three
it's
really
disappointing.
The
three
reasons
that
we're
given
for
this
project,
because
none
of
them
really
apply
the
the
bottom
line
about
about
why
we
would
need
this.
H
It's
really
just
a
question
of
what
do
we
do
with
this
50mg?
The
other
questions
are
separate
from
this,
but
just
to
address
them
quickly,
number
one.
We
need
this
for
minimum
flows.
That's
a
state!
I
told
staff,
that's
a
statement
that
misleads
the
public.
The
only
reason
we
need
minimum
flows
is
because
we
want
to
be
able
to
pull
our
82
or
83
mgd
we
can
easily
buy.
If
there's,
if
we're
not
hitting
minimum
flows,
we
can
buy
the
difference
from
tampa
bay,
water.
H
We
don't
need
this
for
minimum
flows,
saying
that
we
need
it
for
mental
flows,
mislead
the
public
and
scares
the
public
number
two.
We
need
to
quote
unquote:
drought,
proof
our
system,
that's
not
true,
either
in
this
situation,
where
he
hit
the
worst
drought
in
a
hundred
years.
I
think
a
city
pulled
like
41
mgd
from
tampa
bay,
water
and
and
tampa
bay.
Water
broke
their
permits
even
to
get
that.
H
So
we
don't
need
that
and
if
it
and
if
you
think
we
we're
not
happy
with
the
way
the
contracts
are
written
now,
let's
just
change
the
in
a
local
agreement.
The
simple
thing
is:
it's
changing
our
local
every
year,
the
city
of
tampa
is
asked
by
the
regional
supplier,
and
ms
miranda
is
on
the
board.
But
if
they're
asked
by
tampa
water,
how
much
do
you
need?
If
we
go
back
to
them
and
say
we
need
to
modify
the
inner
local
agreement
because
we're
worried
about
drought?
H
Now
many
of
the
environmental
representatives
said
they're
not
worried
about
drought.
They
think
climate
change
is
going
to
cause
us
to
have
more
flooding.
But
if
we
are
worried
about
that,
then
then
we
can
change
the
inner
local
agreement
to
provide
for
temporary
droughts
and
also
the
the
once
in
a
hundred
years,
one.
The
third
reason
for
it
that
was
given
is
for
the
state
law.
H
Well,
we
we
know-
at
least
I
know
from
talking
to
people
in
tallahassee
that
that
before
we
were
all
on
council
representatives,
the
city
lobbied
to
get
this
legislation
passed,
we
can
turn
our
lobbyists
onto
getting
it
changed.
The
simple
thing
is
to
get
a
change,
but
when
I
talk
to
staff
they're
not
interested
in
that,
we
could
also
ask
for
a
delay,
but
I
was
told
by
staff
they're
really
not
interested
in
that
either.
So
we
need
to
figure
out
what
to
do
with
that.
The
bottom
line
is
we.
H
H
The
alternative
announced
their
pro
pro
proposing
now
is
going
to
be
done
by
the
firm,
that's
ultimately
going
to
get
bigger
contracts
afterwards,
they're
not
excluded,
but
the
even
the
alternative
analysis
by
the
by
the
by
the
objective
firm
did
not
include
the
variables
presented
in
the
right
way
to
make
it
an
objective
analysis.
Ultimately,
any
analysis
is
biased
by
the
model
that
you
create
and,
and
the
easy
example
to
look
at
is
the
purple
pipes,
and
I
could
go
into
this.
H
We
on
the
cost
we're
getting
all
kinds
of
different
information
about
the
costs
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
and
and
those
numbers
are
all
over
the
place,
the
bottom
line
is
that
the
city
of
tampa
wants
to
own
this
project,
and
let's
say
it's
only
two
billion
dollars
or
let's
say
it's
6
billion.
Why
do
they?
Why
does
the
city
of
tampa
want
to
burden
our
ratepayers
with
the
debt
and
rate
burden
of
carrying
this
project
when
it
could
be
done
in
the
region
and
one
of
the
excuses
that's
usually
given
as
well?
H
The
regional
supplier
tampa
water,
isn't
even
interested
in
looking
at
this.
It's
not
on
on
their
short
list,
that's
because
in
2018,
two
representatives
of
the
city
asked
them
to
take
it
out.
They
said
this
this.
This
alternative
that
you're
looking
at
does
not
match
the
tap
project,
and
so
they
said
we
want
it
taken
out.
So
what
we
simply
have
to
do
is
pass
a
motion.
I
asked
them
to
put
it
back
in
if
and
and
one
of
the
excuses
given
well
tiffany
water's,
looking
at
spending
20
using
20
mgd.
H
What
that
still
allows
the
city
of
tampa
to
do
is
to
spend
some
big
bucket
of
money
to
process
the
other
30
mg.
Somebody
just
wants
a
big
project.
They
want
to
burn
our
ratepayers
and
our
our
our
residents
with
this
big
project
that
we
don't
need
the
entire
region.
If
you
look
at
the
forecast,
the
entire
region
in
2050
is
going
to
need.
33,
mgd
and
tampa.
Net
of
conservation
is
only
going
to
need
eight
or
nine
mgd
in
30
years.
H
Why
would
we
today
spend
billions
of
dollars
on
a
project
that
the
whole
region
is
not
going
to
need
in
30
years
and
maybe
based
on
the
information?
I've
gotten
from
the
environmentalists,
not
even
in
a
hundred
years,
it's
a
complete
waste
of
money
and
to
say
that
the
public
doesn't
understand
it
or
the
scientists
in
the
room
right
now,
don't
understand
it
or
they
don't
like
the
egg
factor.
It's
really
insulting
to
the
public.
It's
insulting
to
all
of
us.
We've
looked
at
this.
We
don't
need
it.
We
need
to
just
kill
this
project.
H
We
need
to
kill
it
in
every
way
and
make
the
the
water
department
go
back
and
cooperate
with
the
region
again,
and
I've
got
some
motions
later
if
we
can
get
to
them,
but
I
think
we
should
just
kill
this
completely.
We
should
not
allow
it
to
continue.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman.
You
know
my
thoughts
on
this.
We've
been
dealing
with
this
with
this
debate
and
this
narrative,
it's
been
a
journey.
It's
been
like
two
two
and
a
half
years.
It's
been
a
really
long
time.
You
know
I've.
I've
taken
a
lot
of
votes
to
continue
the
dialogue
to
continue
the
process,
etc,
etc.
To
get
a
lot
of
information
out
and
over
the
last
two
and
a
half
years,
two
years
or
so,
we've
been
able
to
find
out
a
lot
of
things.
Not
not.
L
All
of
us
are
our
water
experts.
Obviously
I
sure
as
heck
I'm
not
so
we
obviously
have
a
lot
in
that
regard.
You
know
this
is
by
virtue
of
what
we've
seen
from
the
public
a
very,
very
hard
sell.
L
It
is,
it
is,
and
I
don't
think
it's
because
it's
complicated,
I
think
it's
because
it's
something
that
the
public
has
shown
that
they're
against-
and
I
think
that's
obvious,
I
think
that's
obvious.
I
I've
always
said
that
the
administration,
the
executive,
bears
the
burden
in
terms
of
dealing
with
the
public
on
an
issue
like
this.
That's
the
way
our
city
government
is
is
is
set
up
and
what
not,
and
over
the
last
two
two
and
a
half
years
there
has
been
a
lot
of
dialogue.
L
There
has
been,
I
know,
we're
we're
funding
things
for
community
engagement.
There
has
been.
The
media
has
reported
a
lot
in
these
stories,
we're
getting
emails
in
the
last
and
honestly
in
the
last
week
and
a
half,
I
don't
know
how
many
emails
I've
gotten
on
this,
maybe
a
hundred,
maybe
200..
You
know
one
of
my
pet
peeves
is
always
whenever
we
get
two
or
three
people
speaking
on
something
folks
go
the
community's
speaking
out,
and
I
go
it's
not
necessarily
the
community.
This
is
the
community
to
me.
L
This
is
the
community
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
have
been
speaking
out.
So
I
I
do
think,
though,
that
this
is
something
that,
in
terms
of
the
mandate,
if
we
can't
get
away
from
it,
it's
going
to
continue
to
come
back
to
us,
but
there
are
certain
certain
things
that
the
public,
I
think,
has
spoken
out
very
unequivocally
on
with
regards
to
putting
used
water
as
as
drinking
that's
something
that
really
turns
off
the
public.
It
just
does
it
just.
L
Does
I've
tried
to
wrap
my
mind
around
it
potentially
over
the
last
two
two
and
a
half
years,
and
it's
something
that
I
think
the
public
is
very
much
so
against
and
whatnot
it's
an
issue
that
won't
go
away,
we're
up
against
the
clock,
but
we
have
to
realize
that
when
it
comes
to
the
engagement
with
the
public,
they
have
spoken
out
very
much
so
on
this
issue.
L
They
have
spoken
out
very
much
on
this
issue
and
I
do
think
that
city
council
on
this
project
needs
to
draw
the
line
that,
after
two
two
and
a
half
years,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
call
it
a
start
over.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
take
certain
things
off
the
table
that
the
public
clearly
doesn't
want.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
be
cognizant
of
and
listen
to,
and
I
think
this
is
a
good
time
to
do
that.
In
my
opinion.
L
Now
and
there's
another
thing,
I
want
to
say
it's
really
easy
whenever
you're
speaking
on
something
that
is
controversial
as
the
public
et
cetera,
to
go
well
staff's
doing
this,
that's
keeping
this
from
the
step.
I
I
work
with
staff
a
lot.
Obviously,
as
an
elected
official,
we
have
really
good
staff
here
in
the
city
of
tampa
they're,
hard-working
they're,
honest
they're,
good
people,
they're
civil
servants,
they're
public
servants,
so
anyone
who
would
say
that
somebody's
benefiting
from
this
there's
something
out
there.
I
disagree
until
I
see
something
to
the
contrary.
L
L
We've
had
two
two
and
a
half
years
to
talk
about
this,
to
have
a
dialogue
on
this
and
I
think
we've
heard
from
the
public
on
it,
and
that
is
a
big
contributing
factor
on
an
issue
like
this
when
the
public
is
going
to
be,
you
know,
dealing
with
it
day
in
and
day
out,
we
listen
to
the
public
on
an
issue
like
this,
a
hundred
and
ten
percent.
Just
some
of
my
brief
thoughts.
Thank
you,
sir.
M
You
I
I
believe,
miss
councilmember
hertek
spoke
about
april
about
april.
I
suggest
you
have
it
before
the
election,
not
after
the
election.
O
O
T
O
Do
we
have
february
23rd
workshop
okay
february
23rd
workshop?
It
is
then.
I
also
want
to
change
in
my
motion
to
have
a
preliminary
findings
meetings
with
stakeholders
in
january
then
late
january.
So.
O
I've
made
the
motion
already
now:
I'm
modifying
it.
Okay,.
B
O
The
recommendation
of
council
men
miranda
second.
B
K
Real
quick,
thank
you
very
much.
Councilman
vieira
has
already
stated
you
know
the
huge
amount
of
public
opposition
to
this.
The
probably
hundreds
of
emails
in
opposition
to
this-
and
I
remember-
and
I
always
bring
this
up
but
2016
with
that
stormwater
vote
of
251
million
dollars,
which
was
a
property,
a
tax
assessment
increase.
Essentially
I
had
people
individuals.
That
said,
please
pass
this.
You
know
people
that
are
landowners,
people
that
were
property
owners
that
were
going
to
be
paying
more
in
taxes
because
they
wanted
the
flooding
fixed
throughout
the
city.
K
I
have
not
received
that
with
pure.
If
I
search
my
emails,
I
might
find
one
or
two
in
support.
I
trust
people
like
phil
compton
and
gary
gibbons
and
ken
bailey,
you
know
be
before
them.
There
are
some
great
grave
concerns
and
you
know
I
often
look
to
my
mother.
K
You
know
for
guidance
and
whatnot
and-
and
if
I
I
look
at
it
like
this,
the
litmus
test,
if
I
can
convince
my
mother
and
if
I
can
sway
her
on
something-
then
I
can
you
know-
maybe
it's
it's
right
to
vote
on
it.
I
can't
convince
my
mother
on
this
and
she's
pretty
easy
to
sway
and
she's
just
totally
opposed
to
it.
So
I
use
that
as
a
litmus
test.
That's
one
thing,
but
this
is
a
very,
very,
very
hard
sell.
K
Again
I
mean
if
there
was
a
thousand,
if
there's
998
people
in
opposition
to
this,
there
might
be
two
in
support,
at
least
in
my
experience
talking
to
people
in
the
public
neighborhood
associations-
not
just
talking
about
the
people
here,
but
I
mean,
when
you
have
this
amount
of
people
saying
no
to
something
or
they're
scared
of
it
or
they're
scared
for
their
children
and
grandchildren
of
what's
going
to
be
in
the
water
I
mean
this
is
this
is
tough
and
the
question
is
that's
been
asked:
is
this
absolutely
necessary
and
are
we
willing
to
risk
the
future?
K
Are
we
willing
to
risk
a
possible
class
action
lawsuit
one
day?
I
don't
want
that
blood
on
my
hands.
If
it's
about
you
know.
Well,
you
raise
my
taxes,
but
I
fixed
your
your
flooding
or,
if
I'm
supporting
all
for
transportation,
which
I
am
because
I
want
the
roads
to
get
fixed
and
our
sidewalks
to
be,
I
want
to
go
to
eugene
duncan
and
say:
hey.
Can
we
get
this
paid?
K
O
Then
awesome,
I'm
I'm
fine
with
that,
but
that's
what
this
particular
motion's
about
and
then,
if,
if
somebody
else
wants
to
make
it
or
I'll
make
the
motion
to
say
no
to
further
funding,
then
that's
fine.
M
B
M
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
miss
hertag
at
all.
However,
her
motion
for
17
items
is
now
going
to
be
heard
in
february,
so
does
it
cost
any
money
at
all
today,
to
let
five
and
six
coincide
with
the
new
motion
that
we
have
on
the
floor?
Not
only
her
17
items
for
this
type
of
water,
but
for
the
type
of
water,
river,
water,
well,
water
that
we're
getting
out
wherever
we're
getting
the
water
from
to
use.
M
R
M
They
have
dumping
any
water
near
the
green
swap
or
filtering
to
us,
and
those
are
the
same
things.
So
I
agree
with
you,
but
I
like
to
have
everything
done
five
and
six
and
this
if
it
takes
all
day
to
do
something
I
want
to
do
it
not
only
for
transparency,
but
who
is
right.
Who
is
not
right
and
I'm
not
saying,
there's
a
wrong.
Sometimes
you
say
I
hate
something.
No,
I
don't
hate
anything.
I
like
things
more
than
others.
That's
all
councilman
carlson.
H
Yes,
thank
you,
sir.
I
I
I
respectfully
have
to
vote
against
councilmember
hertek's
proposal
only
because
I
don't
think
we
should
waste
any
more
time
on
this.
We
don't
need
it,
and,
and
the
answers
to
the
questions
are
biased
by
the
model.
That
is
in
it
an
example.
H
If
we
we
just
saw
the
three
reasons:
the
rationale
for
this,
which
I
have
been
disputing
for
months.
If,
if
we
assume
that
we
have
to
have
minimum
flows-
and
we
can't
that
automatically
assumes
that
we're
not
able
to
buy
water
from
someone
else,
it's
a
flawed
model
to
look
at
it.
That
way,
and
I
think
the
the
water
department
needs
to
come
back
to
us
first
with
a
new
model
for
how
to
look
at
the
real
question
that
needs
answered
is
what
do
we
do
with
this
15
mgd?
H
H
C
I
don't
want
to
blow
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
because
listening
to
some
of
the
councilmembers
they're
already
convinced
that
noah's
is
the
way
to
go
so
to
just
waste
800
000
for
a
no
vote
to
come
back
in
two
or
three
months
to
me.
It's
crazy.
We
have
other
issues
going
on
and
I'm
kind
of
you
know
I
I
I
always
be
a
supportive.
C
You
know
woman,
but
for
me
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
hearing
you,
two
other
calendar
members.
I
haven't
heard
from
the
chairman
yet
already
saying
no
already
and
I
would
hate
to
blow
800
thousand
dollars
if
the
answer
is
to
kill
it.
Now
so,
and
I
again
I
when
I
talked
to
me,
I
was
I
was
upfront.
I
said
I
like
to
listen
to
what
everyone
has
to
say.
First,
I
said
an
amendment
to
maybe
wait
down
the
line
to
hear
from
ddp
or
whatever,
whatever.
Who
would
wait
for
them
to
get
answers?
C
I
was
don't
think
about
that,
but
I
want
to
hear
what
everyone
has
to
say
as
a
consensus.
First
to
go.
How
I
would
vote,
but
right
now,
800
000,
just
to
say
we're,
gonna
go!
Do
this
and
I'm
hearing
a
few
folks
up
here
already
saying
that
let's
just
kill
it,
then
why
are
we
wasting
a
thousand
dollars.
T
Just
bring
briefly
what
I'd
like
to
ask
is
we
do
a
follow
through
with
councilman
hertek's
recommendation,
because
we
would
like
the
chance
for
again
our
agency
partners,
dep
swift
mud
tampa
bay,
water.
They
all
have
an
interest
in
solving
these
problems
with
us.
They
will
be
giving
us
feedback
in
the
next
few
months
of
which,
some
of
that
we
have
to
respond
to
particularly
swift
mud.
T
O
This
to
me
is
not
about
pure,
I
am
already
saying
no
to
pure.
I
don't
want
any
more
funding
for
pure,
but
if
we're
being
told
that
we
have
to
find
out
something
to
do
with
this
water,
if,
if,
if
staff
is
telling
us
that
hey
these
are
problems,
other
people
may
not
agree,
but
this
is
what
I'm
being.
This
is
what
I'm
being
told
I
want.
I
want
the
chance
to
find
out,
because
the
the
other
issue
is
what
happens
if
we
don't
comply.
O
I
I
just
want
the
answers
to
that,
so
that
this
to
me
is
not
about
pure.
I
want
pure
to
go
away.
I've
said
that
from
the
first
time,
I'm
here
no
for
pure,
no,
let's
just
get
rid
of
it.
If
we
have
to
if
we're
looking,
if
we're
going
to
look
at
something
else
in
the
future,
my
goal
is
just
to
go
completely
back
to
the
question
of.
Why
are
we
even
talking
about
this
and
so
to
me
when
I
go
back
to?
Why
are
we
even
talking
about
this?
O
Why
I'm
talking
about
this
is
because
we've
been
we're
being
mandated
by
the
state
to
do
this,
and
you
have
said
that
in
the
next
couple
weeks,
you're
going
to
have
a
finalized
letter
that
you're
going
to
talk
to
the
stakeholders
before
bringing
to
us
before
sending
to
dep
to
get
an
answer
about
whether
we
even
need
to
do
this
correct,
and
I
would
happily
say
that
if
we
find
the
answer
that
no,
we
don't
have
to
do
this-
that
we
would
stop
this
motion.
O
T
B
H
H
Yes,
one
thing:
we,
I
think
we
ought
to
make
a
motion
later
about
about
asking
the
staff
to
work
collaboratively
with
us
in
the
community
on
the
dep
application
whatever,
but
embedded
in
that
we
also,
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
a
commitment
from
the
administration
that
their
lobbyists
will
not
be,
will
not
in
any
way
lobby
the
deep
or
the
state
to
reject
that
beneficial
use.
H
The
second
thing
is
council,
member
hertek.
Would
you
consider
amending
your
motion
to
to
add
sierra
club
and
friends
of
river
representatives
of
sierra
club
and
friends
of
the
river
as
representatives
of
the
larger
20,
20
plus
group
coalition,
to
present,
at
the
same
time,.
O
H
O
O
C
O
I
just
want
to
find
out
what
happens
if
we
stick
with
what
we're
doing
right
now,
we're
being
told
by
staff
that
this
is
a
problem,
but
if
we
get
input
from
all
of
these
other
entities
to
find
out,
I
mean
what
what
if
I
mean,
if,
if
our
only,
if
the
only
punishment
we
get
is
a
is
some
fines
and
then
we
can
buy
extra
water
from
tampa
bay,
water
or
whatever
great
I
mean.
D
For
the
workshop
to
be
held
on
february
23rd,
however,
the
decision
needs
to
be
made
on
items
five
and
six.
If
you're
going
to
continue
it
or
not.
If
you
are
going
to
continue
to
go
along
with
your
emotion,
counselor
cannot
make
decisions
during
the
workshop,
so
if
you're
gonna,
if
you
want
those
items
to
go
along
with
those,
these
two
items,
five
and
six,
you
don't.
Okay,.
O
O
M
M
Believe
me,
I'm
not
a
member
of
any
one
of
these
five
organizations.
I
think
I've
sent
some
money
to
all
of
them
at
one
time
or
another,
and
I
got
a
little
thing
about
a
little
card
or
something
that
says
my
name
on
it,
which
I
don't
use,
but
I
don't
I'm
not
a
member,
although
I
send
money
to
someone,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
them
or
not.
B
I
K
H
B
M
T
O
T
M
T
That
won't
take
much
money
at
all
we're
going
to
come
back
in
december
with
those
questions
answered.
However,
the
questions
that
councilman
her
councilman
hertek
is
proposing.
That
will
take
some
time
and
money
and
we'll
come
back
either
february
or
april.
I'm
sorry,
I
wasn't
sure
which
was
landed
on
for
that,
but
we
could
do
either.
B
O
Okay,
this
took
me
a
while
too
there's
two
pots
of
money
for
1.27
million,
so
the
first
one
we
all
approved
in
february
and
that
we
had
250
000
spent
and
we
have
880.
That
was
already
proved
that
I
want
some
of
it.
However
much
it
costs
to
go
toward
finding
the
answers
to
what
the
deal
is.
I
want
to
kill
the
additional
1.172
million
that
we
that
we
had
talked
about,
adding
to
make
a
more
robust
system
that
we're
just
going
to
kill.
No
more,
I
mean
that's
what
I
want.
B
T
So
this
is
the
existing
money.
The
original
agreement
was
1.5
and
change.
That's
because
we
had
money
from
swift
mud
included,
which
was
about
440
000,
so
kind
of
take
that
out.
Pcl's
contract
was
the
difference
of
that
which
is
about
1.1
million
we've
spent
252
000
of
that
and
the
881
is
what's
left
over.
That's
existing
approved
dollars
that
we'll
use
to
prepare
for
the
workshop.
T
We
just
got
the
question
asked
of
us
in
this
moment,
so
we
don't
have.
We
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk
with
our
consultant
and
re
re.
Do
that
housekeeping
on
the
scope
to
rework
the
tasks,
so
I
don't
have
a
dollar
amount
of
what
that
will
cost
right
here.
At
this
time,
it'll
be
less
than
888,
000,
probably
significantly
less.
I
When
you
say
when
you
say,
there's
a
money
spent
that
is
understood.
What
is
the
when
you
say
it's
encumbered,
it's
encumbered
for
a
specific
purpose.
Is
it
not
so
if
that
some
of
that
money
is
spent
for
a
specific
purpose,
and
that
specific
purpose
still
needs
to
be
done
at
some
point
that
money
would
have
to
be
replenished.
Is
that
correct.
T
No,
the
the
dollars
that
are
left
the
scope
that
we
currently
have
and
the
questions
are
being
asked,
align
very
closely
so
again,
we'll
get
a
legal
opinion
with
more
detail
because
again
we're
just
having
this
conversation
right
now.
But
our
engineering
opinion
is
that
the
tasks
align
closely
enough
or
it's
a
housekeeping
exercise
to
adjust
those
tasks
and
get
these
questions
answered
for
the
workshop.
I
A
Morning,
chuck
weber,
water
department,
director
yeah,
the
the
scope
that
was
approved
in
february.
Part
of
that
scope
is
to
do
exactly
what
councilwoman
hertek
has
asked
is
what
happens
if
we
keep
the
status
quo?
That
is
part
of
the
scope,
that's
part
of
what
they're
required
to
answer.
That
is
part
of
the
scope,
so
we
can
use
existing
monies
to
do
that.
We
can,
after
this
meeting,
go
and
find
out
exactly
how
much
that
would
cost
and
provide
that
to
council.
A
It
will
definitely
be
less
than
the
800
000,
but
without
talking
to
them
about
it,
there's
no
way.
I
can
give
you
an
accurate
estimate.
There
are
challenges
to
answering
some
of
the
questions
related
to
minimum
flows
like
what
do
we
do?
I
think
even
councilman
carlson
mentioned
one
of
them.
Changing
the
interlocal
agreement
will
be
no
small
task
if
we're
buying
more
water
from
tampa
bay,
water
how's
that
going
to
affect
the
bill.
How
are
we
going
to
have
our
connections
for
tampa
bay,
water?
A
H
I
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
to
ask
ask
city
staff
to
make
a
good
faith
effort
to
meet
with
council
and
the
public
to
develop,
to
jointly
develop
a
request
of
dep
to
make
the
current
usage
a
beneficial
use.
O
A
I
I
would
just
just
just
bring
to
your
attention.
That
is
exactly
what
we
were
talking
about
earlier
before
we've
already
made
that
commitment,
we've
worked
with
stakeholders
to
develop
the
requests,
and
that
is
the
request
that
we
are
going
to
circulate
in
its
final
form,
to
the
stakeholders
and
to
council
to
look
at
and
comment
on
before
we
submit
to
dep.
So
we've
already
made
that
commitment.
B
H
H
T
Excuse
me,
I
just
want
to
say
we
could
do
that
sooner
than
december.
We
were
actually
planning
to
share
that
letter
amongst
the
stakeholders
and
the
council
within
the
next
couple
weeks,
with
the
hope
of
getting
the
answer
back
from
dep
in
november,
such
as
councilman
hertak
previously
mentioned.
Thank
you.
B
Motion
made
by
councilman
carlson
seconded
by
councilman
councilwoman
hertac
roll
call
vote.
I
H
Begin
working
with
the
tampa
bay
water
board
to
discuss
modifying
the
interlocal
agreement
to
to
increase
access
to
water
during
droughts
and
that
tampa
bay,
water
consider
connecting
us
directly
to
the
regional
pipeline.
O
B
M
M
But
ideally
he
produces
tampa
bay.
Water
produces
about
180,
some
million
gallons
of
water
a
day.
The
tampa
produces
about
a
third
about
82
million
gallons
a
day.
So
I
don't
understand
the
the
board
to
open
up
a
contract
like
that.
I've
tried
for
three
or
four
times,
and
I've
never
succeeded.
So
I'm
willing
to
do
it
this
time
again,
but
once
they
open
the
contract
got
to
be
very
specific.
If
not
the
whole
contract's
up,
which
I'd
rather
see
the
whole
contract
will
be
up.
H
Do
away
with
it
yeah
the
the
problem.
Is
that
what
the
main
the
main
two
reasons
to
for
for
pure
that
we're
given
one
is
minimum
flows
and
the
other
is
drought,
proof
another
one.
That's
often
given
is
as
saltwater
intrusion
and
sulphur
springs
the
solution
all
of
them
could
be
to
buy
more
from
tampa
bay,
water
and
so
the
the
reason
in
the
modeling.
The
reason
why
we
don't
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
don't
do.
That
is
because
we
would
have
to
modify
the
inner
local
agreement.
H
So
all
this
simply
does,
is
it
states
a
a
a
city
council
request
of
staff
to
begin
the
conversation
so
that
we
don't
wait?
It's
it
like
councilman
miranda
said
it
may
take
a
long
time.
H
The
reason
why
I
mentioned
the
regional
pipeline
is
because
currently
mr
weber
has
some
concerns
about
the
treatment
that
is
required
by
mixing
two
different
sources
of
water
and
and
two
different
treatment
methods
that,
in
the
way,
we're
currently
connected
and
so
connecting
it
to
the
regional
pipeline,
may
still
mean
that
there
is
some
additional
treatment
that
would
be
required.
But
it
would.
It
would
connect
us
more
directly
to
the
regional
source
of
water
and
potentially
increase
our
capacity
if
needed
and.
H
That's
something
we
have
to
figure
out,
but
as
we
talk
about
the
cost,
if
we
spend
six
billion
dollars,
that's
going
to
be
a
big
cost
to
our
ratepayers,
when
we
won't
need
50
million
gallons
a
day
for
100
years.
So
this
this
would
be
buying
on
an
incremental
basis
and
hopefully
tampa
bay.
Water
would
include
that
in
our
in
our
variable
rate,
in
in
connecting
us
that
way,.
B
T
E
B
H
Mr
chair,
the
third
one
real
fast,
the
third
one
is
just
to
make
a
motion
to
to
ask
that
tampa
bay.
Water
include
our
50
mgd
as
one
of
the
alternative
sources
in
their
next
alternative
sources.
Analysis.
H
So
they
do
a
periodic
update
on
their
alternative
sources
and
in
2018
we
ask
them
to
take
it
out,
and
so,
if
we
ask
them
to
put
it
back
in
then
they'll
include
it
as
a
regional
analysis
and
they'll
tell
all
of
us
whether
it's
the
safest,
most
cost
effective
source,
and
that
could
be
parallel
to
our
own
analysis.
But
at
least
we
have
another
opinion
there.
That
would
where,
where
it's
included
as
one
of
the
options
for
the
region,
mr
webber.
A
That
that
is
one
of
the
options
that
we've
been
studying
as
part
of
pure
and
we've
made
considerable
progress
on
that
we've
asked
them
how
much
water
they're
interested
in
the
staff
at
tampa
bay,
water
has
indicated
20
million
gallons
a
day
is
what
they're
interested
in.
They
indicated
that
the
number
is
derived
from
the
need
for
the
region.
They
don't
see
the
need
to
purchase
50
mgd.
A
We
can
certainly
see
if
we
can
make
that
request
of
them
and
get
a
response
in
writing.
But
the
indication
that
they've
given
us
over
the
last
really
the
last
year
is
that
20
million
gallons
a
day
is
as
much
as
they
believe
they
would
be
willing
to
purchase.
So
again,
that's
the
indication
that
they're
giving
us
at
the
staff
level.
A
M
B
O
I
Just
a
reminder:
the
denial
of
a
resolution
does
not
necessarily
I
don't
know
whether
it's
in
the
budget
or
not,
whether
it
necessarily
removes
it
from
the
budget.
It's
just
a
particular
resolution
for
an
amendment
to
an
agreement
it's
denied,
but
it
doesn't
prevent
it
from
being
brought
back
by
the
administration
of
the
administration
so
chooses
that
comes
back.
It's
not
necessarily
binding.
I
Just
so
you
know.
So
if
you
want
to
deny
it,
that's
fine,
but
just
with
the
understanding
that
you
are
denying
the
amendment
to
the
agreement
and
the
agreement
still
exists.
Is
that
correct?
It
says
this
is
an
amendment
to
an
agreement.
M
I
K
E
B
S
L
Councilman
vera,
thank
you
very
much.
Yeah
I
mean,
and,
and
I
and
I
what
mr
massey
said,
I
mean
it
makes
sense
the
way
I
see
this
motion,
it's
it's
city,
council,
pushing
back
in
terms
of
stating
a
position
and
whatnot
and
and
and
wanting.
I
guess
if
you
will
significant
radical
overhaul
if,
if
this
ends
up
coming
back
to
us
in
one
form
or
another,
that's
kind
of
the
way
that
I
see
it.
L
I
I
understand
what
what
mr
massey
said,
but
yeah
I
mean,
and
if
it
does,
if
this-
and
this
is
something
again-
it's
not
going
to
go
away,
but
it's
certainly
incumbent
on
on
us
all,
but
especially
the
administration,
to
how
shall
I
say,
build
a
bridge
over
troubled
water.
So
there
you
go.
Thank
you.
F
O
Thank
you.
I
just
do
want
to
say
that
I
I
I
don't.
I
don't
want
to
fund
this
anymore.
To
me,
this
is
this,
is
it
this
is.
This
is
done
if
we
need
to
do
something
different,
we'll
we'll
deal
with
it
in
a
different
way,
so
I
don't
anticipate
approving
any
more
funding
for
pure
as
it
stands,
and
to
me
that
is
closing
it.
I
understand
legally,
it's
a
little
different,
but
to
me
it's
it's
a
closure.