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A
A
C
Good
afternoon
city
council,
Morris,
Massey
Deputy,
City
attorney
real
quickly
before
staff
makes
its
presentation.
This
is
just
a
report
back
to
Council
on
some
of
the
questions,
emotions
the
Council
made
at
the
first
budget
public
hearing,
because
the
budget
is
subject
to
a
spirit,
strict
public
carrying
requirements
in
their
state
law.
This
body
should
be
taking
no
action
on
the
budget
itself
at
all.
Today,
you
can
give
your
feedback,
but
there
shouldn't
be
any
emotions
made
any
this.
C
The
only
only
motion
I
would
ask
you
all
to
make,
and
let
me
explain
this
real
quickly
right
now,
when
you
originally
scheduled
the
second
public
hearing
for
the
on
the
budget
on
the
military
you
scheduled
it
for
501
PM.
We've
also
scheduled
the
CRA
budget
hearing
at
501
PM
in
consultation
with
the
Florida
Department
of
Revenue.
They
suggested
that
we
have
two
distinct
times
for
those
hearings,
and
so
we
have
advertised
the
city
budget
hearing
for
six
o'clock,
P.M,
that's!
C
What's
on
the
website,
now
that's
what's
being
advertised
in
the
newspaper,
so
I.
The
only
motion,
if
you
would
be
willing
to
make,
is
the
emotion
to
conform
that
your
the
public
hearing
you.
The
original
motion
you
made
to
set
the
public
hearing
the
second
public
hearing
at
501
pm
to
set
up
now
at
6
PM,
consistent
with
the
advertisements
that
have
been
made
by
the
city
in
connection
with
that
other
than
that
there
should
be
no
action
taking
in
conjunction
with
the
budget.
F
C
C
B
G
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you,
Council
Dennis,
Rogero,
Chief,
Financial
Officer,
of
course,
at
the
September
6th
first
public
hearing
Council
had
a
number
of
questions.
We
have
those
answers
for
you
today.
We're
also
prepared
to
discuss
our
ongoing
efforts
with
departments
to
identify
additional
funding
again,
as
Council
requested.
If
I
may
begin
answering
the
questions
that
you
asked
if
I
could
have
the
Elmo
up,
please.
G
Council
will
recall
they
asked
you
asked
for
a
longer
history
of
our
ending
available
unassigned
fund
balance
than
we
had
provided
you
see
here,
we've
taken
it
all
the
way
back
to
2004
and
quite
a
bit
of
variation
associated
with
primarily
two
things:
the
the
Great
Recession,
of
course
right
before
which
we
had
reached
a
high
of
37
percent
in
our
unassigned
fund
balance,
and
it's
a
good
thing.
We
did
a
number
of
factors
adversely
impacted
US
during
and
following
the
Great
Recession,
you
see
in
2010
37
about
140
million
dollars.
G
We
had
Amendment
one
pass
at
the
legislative
level
severely,
impacting
our
revenues
compelling
us
to
lower
our
millage
rate.
We
had
valuation
decreases
associated
with
the
Great
Recession
for
a
number
of
years,
and
you
can
see
here
we
didn't
plane
out
if
you
will
to
our
what
we,
what
is
now
our
typical
level
till
about
2014
or
24
percent.
G
That
is
the
level
that
we
remain
comfortable
at
23
24.
You
see
24
24,
23
Etc
in
2020
and
2021
again,
you
can
see
a
spike
in
our
percentages,
28
and
27.
That's
the
result
of
the
influx
of
all
the
federal
funding
that
accompanied
the
covid
pandemic.
Much
of
it
found
its
way
into
the
general
fund.
The
American
Rescue
plan
Act
was
a
very
big
portion
of
it.
G
So
by
Design,
our
fund
balance
increased
and
we've
allocated
and
continue
to
allocate
that
funding
Bringing
Down
the
balance
to
the
24
and
23
percent
on
the
far
right
you
see
here
so
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
Ebbs
and
flows.
Of
course,
at
the
very
beginning,
we
were
well
well
under
not
only
our
typical
percentage
now,
but
indeed
our
policy
of
20
percent.
G
Next
Council
had
also
asked
about
our
outstanding
debt
by
fiscal
year.
Again,
you'd
asked
for
a
longer
history
than
we
provided.
Excuse
me
at
these
September
6th
public
hearing
here,
we've
taken
it
all
the
way
back
to
2000.
a
couple
of
things
to
note.
You
can
see
that
the
general
government
in
blue
stayed
pretty
steady
for
almost
the
entirety
of
this
of
this
history.
You
see
here
it
began
to
go
up
in
fiscal
year,
21
and
22,
especially
in
fiscal
year.
G
22,
the
Hannah
Avenue
project,
storm
water
bonds
again
will
be
coming
to
you
later
with
some
more
storm
water
Bond
actions
in
the
Enterprise
fund
a
little
bit
of
ups
and
downs,
but
you
can
see
the
significant
spike
in
the
last
couple
of
years,
Associated
well
overwhelmingly
with
the
pipes
program,
almost
800
million
dollars
worth
of
Enterprise
debt
associated
with
that
program
and
again
more
to
come,
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
million
dollars.
More
can
I
answer
any
questions.
G
Council
had
also
asked
about
our
history
of
negotiated
pay
increases
and
our
inflation
rate,
and
you
see
that
here
for
about
a
20-year
span
from
2002
to
2021.,
as
you've
heard
us
say,
as
you've
heard,
the
chief
of
staff
say.
Overall,
we
have
a
very
good
history
of
meeting
our
local
inflation
and
our
negotiated
increases
with
the
unions
and
when
I
say
our
local
inflation.
You
can
see
here.
This
is
the
Tampa
Metropolitan
statistical
area.
This
is
not
the
national
inflation,
for
example.
G
G
Of
course,
fiscal
year
22,
the
rule
book
was
thrown
out
and
it
looks
like
the
rule
book
will
stay
thrown
out
for
fiscal
year
23
and
again
we
as
part
of
the
recommended
budget
and
subsequent
to
our
to
our
negotiations
with
the
collective
bargaining
agencies.
We
have
the
nine
and
a
half
percent
for
the
union
members
and
then
the
various
percentage
for
those
other
categories
that
we've
discussed
so
a
very
good
history
and
we're
trying
to
continue
that
history.
G
Foreign,
those
are
the
questions
that
we
took
from
the
September
6th
meeting
again
Council
had
asked
that
the
responses
when
we
can
be
put
into
a
visual
format
again,
it's
a
much
user
friendly
I
think
for
the
lay
person
and
of
course
it
helps
us
too.
If
I
can
now
I'll
speak
to
our
ongoing
efforts
with
the
departments
in
trying
to
find
additional
funding,
as
Council
requested.
G
Excellent,
thank
you.
I'll
begin
by
reiterating
you've
heard
us
say
it
before
and
we'll
say
it
again.
This
is
a
very,
very
tight
recommended
budget.
The
tolerances
have
very
little
room
for
flexibility
without
reprioritizing,
what's
contained
within
the
recommended
budget.
It's
a
tight
budget,
a
great
example
and
we're
working.
G
The
first
level,
of
course,
especially
when
it
comes
to
the
general
fund,
are
pay
increases
and
Staffing
increases.
That
is
the
overwhelming
majority
of
what
we
can
work
with
in
the
general
fund
and
again
with
nine
and
a
half
negotiated
increases
for
the
collective
bargaining
agencies
and
the
many
many
additional
positions
associated
with
either
maintaining
services
or,
in
some
instances,
expanding
Services.
That's
where
any
funding
for
any
other
purpose
would
have
to
come.
G
On
a
related
note,
the
second
level
would
be
operating
expense
increases
again.
These
are
associated
with
services
and
touch
the
public
safety
agencies,
Transportation
Construction
Services
facilities
maintenance.
As
we
go
through
those
increases
for
fiscal
year
23.
We
have
to
ask
ourselves
what
will
be
the
impact
on
Services.
Some
of
these
were
again
to
maintain
existing
services
in
the
face
of
increasing
demands.
Some
of
them
are
to
expand
existing
Services
because
we've
heard
the
council
we've
heard
the
public.
G
G
As
we've
discussed,
we
rely
heavily
on
the
communication
I'm
sorry
on
the
community
investment
tax,
the
CIT
for
vehicle
replacements,
we're
still
behind
on
vehicle
Replacements
from
the
Great
Recession
and,
of
course
the
CIT
is
going
away
from
a
budget
perspective,
a
planning
and
forecast
perspective
it'll
be
gone
before
you
know
it.
So
these
are
some
of
the
difficult
discussions
we're
having
before
we
bring
you
options
for
additional
funding
on
the
20th
and,
finally,
the
capital
Improvement
program
as
we've
discussed,
and
we
continue
to
review
it
internally
and
discuss
with
the
Departments.
G
G
Secondly,
are
there
balances
in
those
projects
that
are
funded
from
revenues
that
we
can
apply
to
housing?
Of
course,
if
there's
no
balance
well
that
that
can't
be
considered
that
horse
has
left
the
barn.
If
there
is
a
balance,
then
we
need
to
decide
well
what
impact
will
that
taking
that
balance
have
on
the
project?
Will
it
the
project
from
a
performance
from
a
gold
perspective?
G
So
again,
we're
attacking
it
from
a
number
of
different
levels.
We
have
the
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
solid
waste,
arpa
funding,
and
we
continue
to
work.
What
council
has
requested
and
I
can
answer
any
questions
you
have
now.
We
can
also
come
back
of
course,
between
now
and
the
second
public
hearing.
H
Yes,
I
I
wanted
to
Mr
Shelby
the
discussion
we
had
yesterday
regarding
the
separate
vote
on
modification
of
any
salaries
that
it
was.
Your
opinion
strike
that
the
6.06
for
for
Tuesday.
What
was
your
opinion?
That's
all.
E
If
I
understand
correctly,
a
question
was
whether
you
can
have
a
separate
vote
to
have
the
the
pay
increases.
Yes,
and
my
understanding
is
that,
if
emotion
is
made
in
a
second
is
made,
you
could
have
a
second
vote
like
explaining
a
separate
vote
on
on
the
on
the
pay
increase.
Just
as
you
have
I'm
sorry,
sir.
C
I
may
have
some
information
that
may
be
helpful
on
this
question.
Yes,
sir,
the
budget
itself,
your
the
salary
of
city
council,
is
the
same
as
it
was
and,
as
it
historically
has
been
in
the
budget,
the
budget
does
allocate
sufficient
funds
in
the
Personnel
funds
that
if
later
in
the
year,
you
should
determine
that
you
would
think
an
increase
to
your
salary
is
appropriate.
Then
at
that
point
in
time
we
would.
H
That's
if
I
may,
if
I
may,
share
that
that's
what
I
wanted
to
highlight
and
thank
you,
Mr
Massey
and
Mr
Shelby
for
your
work
in
that
regard.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
E
D
F
E
C
Charts
the
charter
requires
what
what
what
can
and
then
I'll
let
Mr
Hero
talk
about.
What's
in
the
budget,
what
the
charter
there's
this
Charter
provision,
section
6.06
that
says
that
any
adjustment
in
the
salary
of
officials
which
you
are
in
the
mayor
are
the
elected
officials
of
the
city
would
require
a
resolution
or
a
vote
by
it
needs
to
be
recommended
by
the
mayor
and
then
a
majority
vote
by
this
body
in
order
to
fluctuate
those
changes.
C
That
amount
is
not
to
my
understanding
in
the,
but
there
is
money
in
the
budget
set
aside
that
if,
at
a
later
time,
it's
determined
that
you
do
want
to
do
that
it
could
be
accomplished,
but
the
the
the
our
Charter
requires
that
the
salary
of
the
every
all
employees
and
officers
be
listed
in
the
budget,
and
you
would,
if
you
go
through
the
budget
book
and
you
look
at
the
salaries,
the
salary
amount
for
you
all
are
I.
Think
is
the
same,
except
maybe
maybe
a
three
three
percent
CPI-
that
maybe
in.
D
G
You
thank
you,
sir.
If
I
can
clarify
the
funding
that
is
in
the
city
council
department,
for
your
pay
increases
is
as
it
is
now
any
increase,
whether
it's
the
three
percent
or
an
out
of
the
ordinary
increase
that
has
been
discussed,
is
being
held
in
a
Special
Reserve
should
Council
decide
to
pursue.
F
F
C
And
relative
to
Bringing
forward
a
resolution
relative
to
that
we
could
bring
It
Forward,
potentially
on
the
that
Thursday
I
will
tell
you
typically
the
way
we
handle
changes
to
the
budget,
which
this
would
be
is
that
if
you
all
make
a
motion
that
you
would
like
to
have
that
change
made
to
the
budget,
that's
usually
brought
to
this
Council,
the
very
first
city
council
meeting
after
the
budget's
adopted.
The
reason
being
is
that
the
budget
that's
published
online.
C
We
have
a
very
complicated
budget,
I
mean,
as
you
all
know,
it's
a
thousand
Pages
plus.
So
when
you
start
adjusting
figures
and
line
items,
that's
very
difficult
to
do
on
the
fly
so
that
we
typically
we.
We
approve
the
budget
as
is,
and
then
we
bring
forward
at
the
very
next
meeting
any
changes
that
you
all
would
like
to
make
to
the
budget.
So.
D
E
D
C
E
C
Well,
I
I
mean
I,
guess:
I
guess
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
if
you
all
I
mean
I
think
the
decision
would
be.
Do
you
want
to
amend
the
budget?
So
it's
so
there's
no
money
in
your
fund
available
for
any
increase
this
this
calendar
year.
If
not,
then
then,
then
you
would
leave
the
budget
that
way
and
then
you
could
consider
potentially
you
don't
have
to,
but
you
could
potentially
consider
an
increase
later
in
the
year.
Let.
C
G
I'm,
sorry,
just
to
clarify
from
a
wonkish
perspective,
it's
a
it's
sitting
in
a
true
Reserve,
so
it
would
require
a
financial
resolution
to
move
a
fun
deal.
It
would
require
I'm
sorry.
It
would
require
a
financial
resolution
to
move
the
funding
from
a
Special
Reserve
to
a
Personnel
to
the
Personnel
section.
D
When
we
get
that
on
Thursday
the
boys
that
all
needs
to
be
done
and
handled
on
Thursday
my
opinion,
council
member
Tuesday
on
Tuesday
and
he's
eight
he's
gone
one
shot
that
way
the
public
can
know.
You
know
the
public
can
hear
their
concerns
and
not
concerns
I
mean
my
thing
at
the
budget
committee
has
already
told
you
we're
under
staff.
The
city
council.
You've
already
done
your
own
study.
It's
not
like
it's
not
like
this
Council
here
told
you
what
to
go
out
and
do
anything
you
were
told
by
the
budget
committee.
D
The
administration
did
their
due
diligence
by
researching
all
other
cities
and
ensure
the
factor
is
come
back
that
we
are
not
where
we
need
to
be
and
again
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
look
at
anybody's
pocket.
Anybody
wants
to
do
whatever
they
do
with
their
money
is
fine,
but
for
me,
I
think
it
needs
to
be
dealt
with.
F
B
J
Just
trying
to
simplify
the
process
a
little
bit,
we
did
analysis
as
Mr
O'hara,
Mr
Massey
said
there
is
money
in
the
personnel
budget,
but
not
in
your
budget
for
an
increase,
ideally
on
Tuesday.
If
there
is
a
separate
vote,
I
think
there's
four
options
to
consider.
That's
why
I
want
to
give
a
little
Clarity.
First
of
all,
you
could
accept
the
recommendation
of
the
analysis
that
we
gave
as
one
option.
You
could
alter
that
as
a
second
option,
meaning
instead
of
this
percentage,
it
could
be
a
different
percentage.
J
You
could
deny
the
increase
completely
or
you
could
delay
the
increase
and
still
adjust
the
number.
So
the
point
is:
is
we
did
an
analysis?
We
put
it
in
there.
It
is
not
in
your
budget
today,
it's
not
in
there
today.
If
you
approve
the
budget,
as
is
as
Chief
O'hara
said,
it
would
have
to
require
an
amendment
to
bring
it
in.
It's
simply
a
placeholder,
based
on
the
analysis
that
we
did,
that
we
would
thought
was
fair
and
Equitable,
because
you
can't
do
your
own.
J
We
had
to
do
it
for
you
in
response
to
the
economy,
and
so
it
could
be
decided
to
delay
it
to
thin
it
down,
to
deny
it
or
to
accept
it,
and
those
are
the
four
options
that
I
see
for
counsel
and
if
you
just
stick
with
the
budget,
it
could
just
be
yes
or
no
or
a
delay.
If
you
don't
want
to
throttle
it
down
from
the
42
percent
to
something
more
in
line
with
what
you
think
is
going
on
today.
That's
fine
that
was
not
a
raise.
That
was
a
market
analysis.
J
I
think
there's
a
difference.
If
you
have
a
market
analysis
and
you
have
an
increase,
the
increase
that
has
been
budgeted
for
this
level
of
the
organization.
The
electives
was
three
percent
which
would
take
effect
on
May
1..
So
the
only
real
increase
was
the
three
percent.
The
market
analysis
was
done,
based
on
the
feedback
and
the
work
that
we
did,
and
we
just
put
that
placeholder
in
the
reserves.
Again
it
can
be
denied,
it
could
be
modified,
it
could
be
delayed
completely
or
could
be
accepted.
B
K
B
You
motion,
made
by
councilman
good
seconded
by
councilwoman,
hurts.
I
B
C
The
project
amount
is
55.3
million
dollars
to
kimmons
Contracting
Corporation.
The
project
consists
of
construction
of
approximately
10
000
linear
feet
of
box,
culvert
pipes,
laterals
inlets
and
connections
through
and
a
regional
pond,
and
it
includes
passive,
passive
Park
amenities,
including
a
trail
and
Associated
utility
construction,
and
also
includes
3.8
million
in
water
line.
Replacement
of
the
EPO
ebo
subcontract
goal,
as
calculated
by
the
city's
gold
committee,
is
eight
percent
for
underutilized,
wmbe
and
slbe
combined.
C
However,
kimmins
has
made
a
commitment
to
exceed
that
goal
and
a
very
confident
confident
that
they
can
I
do
have
John
zamina
here
with
with
kimmins,
who
is
their
vice
president
and
then
virtually
I
have
Gregory
Hart
here
for
support
in
case
there's
questions
in
in
either
of
those
areas,
construction
and
ebo.
C
D
D
That,
yes,
sir,
please
do
that
because
you
know
again,
that's
the
first
thing:
I
look
at
when
you
bring
me
Dollar
numbers
and
again
I
always
say:
let's
let
us
be
the
one
that
asked
what
we
need.
I
know,
there's
a
stand
that
you
use,
but
we
should
be
the
one
asking
what
we
want
and
then
let
those
contracts
who
are
applying
be
able
to
match
what
we
really
want
and
hopefully,
in
the
future,
we're
going
to
be
able
to
do
that.
D
But
if
you
just
bring
house
this
particular
contract
with
got
eight
percent
because
I
know
there
was
some
I
guess,
materials
and
things
that
some
people
just
can't
do.
But
we
just
can't
meet
that,
but
I
like
the
public
to
know
that
when
you
talk
about
this
big
dollar,
no
matter
why
we
couldn't
be
a
bigger
High
expectation.
Now.
C
I
am
very
glad
to
that.
You
asked
us
to
do
that
because
there
is
a
it's,
a
very
detailed
and
a
lot
of
work
that
our
staffs
go
through
both
contract,
Administration
staff,
the
user,
Department
staff
and
the
Evo
staff
to
pull
this
all
together
and
to
set
that
goal.
But
I'll
I'll
try
to
keep
it
simple,
but
it
starts
with
the
user
department,
and
in
this
case
it
would
be
Mobility
or
the
the
stormwater
section
of
Mobility
would
prepare,
what's
called
a
project
task
worksheet
and
they
will
work
with
the
engineer.
C
That's
part
of
the
design,
build
team
to
break
down
those
tasks
and
they'll
break
them
down
into
tasks
that
the
prime
contractor
performs
and
then
tasks
that
are
subcontractable.
C
And
then,
at
that
point
once
that's,
you
know
vetted
by
both
the
engineering
groups
that
is
turned
over
to
Gregory
hearts
of
equal
business
opportunity
office
and
he
his
staff
will
go
through
and
determine
the
availability
of
certified
ebo
firms
in
those
categories,
firms
that
are
ready,
willing
and
able
to
work,
and
he
did
that
line
item
by
line
item
and
he
even
breaks
it
down
into
availability
of
underutilized
availability
of
slbes
and
then
availability
of
wmbs
that
are
non-under
utilized.
C
So
he
he
covers
the
whole
of
Gambit
and
I
would
like
to
read
off
those
subcontracting
opportunities
that
were
used
in
this
project.
There
are
several
of
them,
but
include
public
Outreach,
hauling,
concrete
sidewalks,
driveways,
brick,
paver,
driveways,
concrete,
curb
survey,
maintenance
of
traffic
asphalt,
paving
signing
and
Paving
striping
Pipe
Supply
testing
Landscaping
inside
and
then
so
they
they
go
through
that
they
calculate
the
goal.
C
Then
they
have
several
things
at
the
end
that
they
can
use
for
adjustments
depending
on
the
project,
and
then
I
would
like
to
say
one
final
thing
to
that
end,
and
that
is
that
the
this
is
large,
concrete,
Culvert,
that's
necessary
and
I
said
it
was
almost
two
miles
worth,
and
that
is
a
big
part
of
this
project.
C
Those
prices
have
gone
up
by
the
way
associated
with
those
large
box
culverts,
and
that
is
one
item
that
is
not
available
to
purchase
through
the
black
business
Enterprise
that
provide
Pipe,
Supply
I
will
tell
you,
though,
that
kimmons
is
confident
they
can
exceed
this
goal.
For
a
couple
of
reasons.
C
Some
of
the
water
work
is
open,
cut
with
ductile
iron
pipe
and
that
pipe
is
being
proposed
to
through
one
of
those
firms
and
then
also
they
were
able
to
have
recent
discussions
with
those
firms
to
provide
some
of
the
concrete
structures,
not
the
culverts,
but
the
structures,
and
so
that's
why
they're
confident
they
can
get
double
digits.
I
I
appreciate
the
description
that
I
talked
to
Vic
about
the
presentation
and
I
appreciate
it
and
I
know
that
the
folks
south
of
Gandy
are
are
going
to
appreciate
this
project
when
it's
done,
but
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
talk
about
the
southeast
Seminole
Heights
project,
that's
going
on
now
and
the
trouble
we've
had
with
it
and
I'm
hoping
that
you've
that
we
are
learning
from
what
happened
there
and
I
I'm
telling
you
now
that
if,
if
you
think
South
Seminole
Southeast
Seminole
Heights,
if
you've
seen
Seminole
Heights
is
loud,
just
wait.
I
Till
south
of
Gandhi
has
issues
so
I'm,
really
hoping
that
we
can
learn
from
what
went
on
to
have
more
robust
communication.
Personal
communication,
a
lot
more
communication
and
that
we
really
focus
on
trash
on
the
professionalism
of
the
subcontractors,
with
the
public
and
and
the
other
issues
that
have
come
up,
but
mainly
communication
and
making
sure
that
anything
that
happens.
That
residents
know
what's
happening,
because
this
is
going
to
impact
them
for
quite
some
time.
I
know
that
we'll
all
be
happy
when
it's
over,
but
they
still
have
to
live
through
it.
I
A
I
F
C
F
F
This
is
a
different
contractor.
This
is
not
the
one
that
starts
with
an
m.
It
starts
with
a
K
and
there's
one
other
one
that
does
great
work
in
Dallas,
I
believe
starts
with
a
d
I'm,
sorry
I
said
the
name
d
and
K
do
fantastic
work
as
well.
I'm
concerned
the
other
one
can
go
somewhere
else.
B
L
Glad
to
see
you
it's
it's
kimmins
in
my
experience,
I
see,
John's
and
minus
is
in
the
is
in
the
crowd,
but
especially
on
West
Shore
Estrella,
and
all
that.
L
A
major
project
John
picked
up
the
phone
every
single
time
was
responsive
within
30
minutes
an
hour.
You
know,
I
mean
when
I
say,
responsive
I'm,
going
to
be
out
on
the
site.
I'm
going
to
talk
to
the
neighbors
we
met
out
there
we
met
with
neighbors,
and
you
know
we
tried
to
be
working
together.
We
try
to
be
very,
very
responsive,
so
kimmins
in
my
opinion,
has
always
done
excellent
work
and
that's
with
you
know,
one-on-one.
L
B
G
Thank
you
City
work
to
do
again.
We've
we've
shared
this
in
our
individual
briefings
throughout
the
week,
but
it
is
worth
noting
that
approval
of
this
agreement
does
incorporate
about
25
million
dollars
worth
of
debt
service
that
we'll
be
bringing
to
council,
along
with
the
reimbursement
resolutions
that
we've
talked
about
again.
The
reimbursement
resolution
will
allow
us
to
Begin
work
expedite
this
and
get
paid
back
from
The
Debt
Service.
Thank
you,
foreign.
A
A
Good
afternoon
you
asked
us
to
look
at
the
letter
the
residents
received
for
Timber
font
for
Timber
Falls
to
determine
if
there
was
any
violations
of
laws.
I
can
only
comment
on
any
violations
of
city
code.
There
are
no
city
code
ordinances
that
cover
the
required
notices
by
a
landlord
for
collection
of
back,
rent
and
or
eviction
that
is
covered
by
Florida
State
Statute
chapter
83.
A
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
have
been
working
with
Bay
Area
Legal
about
that
pilot
program.
That
we've
been
talking
about.
This
is
something
that
the
tenants
could
take
through
that
program
if
they
had
an
issue
with
the
landlord
notice.
This
program
does
provide
for
assistance
for
landlord-tenant
issues.
I
will
be
coming
for
you,
October
6,
with
that
agreement.
H
Thank
you
very
much
Mr
chair
and
Miss
Johns.
Thank
you
for
your
hard
work
and
in
that
regard-
and
we
spoke
on
it
earlier
this
morning,
so
so
it
would
appear
that
no
city
ordinances
were
violated.
What
I
was
going
to
ask
you
to
do
if
I
may
is,
is
to
look
to
see
if
we
have
the
legal
capacity
to
draft
a
city
ordinance
that
we
deal
with
and
I'll
make
a
formal
motion.
If
I'm
a
Mr
chair,
May
I
make
a
motion
really
quickly.
Thank
you,
sir
I
appreciate
it.
H
H
Let's
see
how
shall
I
place
it
in
an
ordinance
dealing
with
situations
where
tenants
are
potentially
being
evicted
for
alleged
debts
that
are
six
months
old
or
six
months
or
older
back
due
debts,
which
they
had
no
idea
of
Etc.
That's
my
motion.
I
know
that
we
may
run
into
some
issues
with
Florida
statutes
on
landlords,
so
we
may
not
be
able
to
do
that,
but
at
least
look
at
the
sufficient,
the
the
feasibility
of
that
and
have
that
come
back.
I'll
December.
H
Is
that
enough
time
for
you,
okay,
the
first
week
in
December.
If
I
may
that's
my
motion,
but
before
I
formally
put
that
out
there
I
know
that
on
Monday,
so
I've
kept
in
touch.
Obviously
with
the
timber
falls
folks
and
the
management
as
well
as
the
residents
we've
been
out
there,
a
number
of
times
and
I
believe
there
have
been
19
open,
Code,
Enforcement
cases
so
over
at
Timber
Falls.
H
So
my
message
to
the
to
the
community
at
apartments
that
are
substandard
is
that
the
city
of
Tampa
is
open
for
business
whenever
it
comes
to
taking
a
look
at
code
enforcement
challenges
and
some
of
these
apartment
areas,
Etc
I'm,
going
out
again
on
Monday
with
code
enforcement,
I've,
LED,
City
staff,
know
I've
let
management
at
Timber
Falls.
No,
because
again
we
want
to
work
on
them
to
do
better
right.
We
want
to
work
on
them
to
do
better.
So
yeah,
so
that's
my
motion.
Mr.
H
It
was
convoluted,
so
my
motion
councilman
essentially
asked
for
legal
to
see
the
feasibility
of
an
ordinance
that
would
pre
that
would
provide
protections
for
tenants
that
are
seeking
to
be
evicted
by
landowners
for
debts
that
are
six
months
or
older
kind
of
like
what
happened.
What
allegedly
is
happening
here?
What
protections
the
the
the
city
of
Tampa
can
provide
to
tenants
in
such
situations
where
they're
seeking
to
be
evicted
for
debts
that
are
six
months
or
older,
and
it's
on
the
feasibility
of
it
if
an
ordinance
can
be
crafted.
H
It
could
be
either
one
in
this
particular
situation.
According
to
the
tenants,
there
were
many
deaths
that
they
didn't
know
about
right
right,
maybe
things
that
section
8
didn't
pay
for
maybe
things
that
Catholic
Charities,
what
what
a
charity,
whatever
it
may
be,
Lutheran,
whatever
didn't
pay
for
so
debts
that
they
did
not
know
of
that
are
six.
H
B
F
F
H
H
Yes,
sir,
so
that's
the
potential
situation
I
doubt
we
can
because
obviously
there's
a
nine
to
Florida
statute
95.11.
It
deals
with
statute
of
limitations
on
contracts,
debts
Etc,
but
again,
look
into
if
there
is
some
level
of
protection
without
interfering
with
private
contracts
or
Florida
Statutes,
the
preemptive,
some
sort
of
a
protection
I'm
very
I'm,
very
I'm,
not
optimistic,
but
something
thank.
B
N
Good
afternoon,
Council
sharisha
Hills,
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation
here
to
talk
about
item
number
12,
which
is
the
agreement
with
the
Russo
brothers,
are
also
known
as
the
Hit
Factory
Academy
I.
Think
you
guys
asked
me
to
speak
about
their
agreement,
so
they're
current
agreement
with
us
is
that
fap,
which
is
a
facility
I'm,
sorry
fup,
which
is
a
facility
use
permit.
This
is
a
permit
that
we
utilize
with
organizations
that
are
sports
leagues
outside
of
little
leagues.
N
Our
traditional
little
leagues
use
the
fua
facility
use
agreement
which
is
more
exclusivity
to
that
facility
and
have
full
access
facility
versus
the
fup,
which
is
a
scheduled.
You
schedule
with
the
city
of
Tampa,
Parks
and
Rec
to
utilize
that
facility,
so
the
walls
would
literally
transition
from
a
little
league.
They
are
no
longer
a
little
league.
They
are
just.
They
have
organizations
there
that
utilize
that
facility,
so
we
transition
the
permit
that
is
required
for
them.
B
L
Was
that
permit
transition
were
the
was
the
Hit
Factory
under
the
previous
style,
where
they
had
essentially
all
access
to
now
you
know
someone
unlocks
a
gate
opens
the
clubhouse
kind
of
thing,
correct.
N
So
we
we
were
audited
from
our
city
Auditors
right
before
covid.
The
audit
came
back
that
there
was
no
longer
Little
League
operating
at
walls
with
little
league.
There
was
a
hit
Factory,
who
was
a
baseball
academy
covet
hit
in
2020,
so
things
shut
down
and
21.
We
put
them
on
a
this
permit.
We
renewed
it
in
22
of
this
year,
so
this
would
be
the
second
year
they're
still
currently
on.
It
still
are
able
to
use
walls
with
little
league,
but
that's
where
the
transition
started
actually
started
at
21.
L
New
part,
but
they're
on
a
schedule.
So,
for
example,
if
it's
like
the
gate
is
locked
and
it's
raining
and
they
want
to
get
inside
the
the
clubhouse
they
have
like
a
two-story
facility
there
on
site.
They
have
to
wait
for
somebody
in
parks
and
rec
to
open
it
up
or
Parks
and
Rec
can
say
sorry.
You
know
it's
sunrise,
sunset
or
nine
to
five
or
you're
outside
you
know.
It's
501
can't
sorry
we're
closed
for
the
day.
N
Traditionally,
if
there's
a
rain
out,
you
know
you
could
most,
like
other
organizations,
go
back
to
your
car
or
whatever,
but
in
this
case
yes,
so
we
open
and
close
it.
That's
there.
You
schedule
to
use
the
feel
they're
one
of
70
organizations
we
permit
to
utilize
under
the
fup
for
a
permit.
So
yes,
if
they're
there,
if
there's
someone
there
to
open
it,
we
can
open
it
and
have
them
go
in
there.
If
not
like
anything
else.
B
D
Miss
America
I'm
familiar
with
the
usual
agreements,
I've
used
them
for
many
many
years
and,
as
you
know,
I've
talked
about
a
lot
of
issues
that
need
to
be
transitioned
with
youth
sports
with
Recreation,
especially
dealing
with
footballs.
You
know
a
lot
of
issues
going
and
I
just
sent
you
some
stuff
about
football
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
for-profit
programs,
getting
the
same
incentives
as
non-profit
programs
because
for
profit
programs,
that's
where
Youth
Sports
has
kind
of
changed.
D
We
have
a
lot
of
these
Elite
programs
that
are
making
money
and
I
have
a
problem
when
you
have
getting
trying
to
get
city
facilities
and
getting
the
same
type
of
agreements
as
the
non-profits,
because
the
non-profits
are
catering
to
the
community
they're,
not
picking
and
choosing
kids
to
play,
they're,
not
charging
these
fees
and
then
with
for-profit
they're
charging
a
fee
at
the
gate,
whereas
non-profits
cannot
charge
fees
at
the
donations
which
is
called
to
help
operate
their
programs.
D
I
have
experience
on
this
I've
dealt
that
with
a
lot
of
these
youth
programs
and
now
calling
themselves
an
LLC.
You
know,
I
have
issues
with
that.
If
you're
a
true
non-profit,
you
should
be
gaining
and
getting
kids
right
there
not
trying
to
make
money
off
the
backs
of
kids
or
paying
coaches
to
coach
volunteers
are
volunteers.
So
for
me,
I
I
read
some
of
the
background.
I
know
the
Russo
buzz
from
Hillsboro
and
Plant
High
School
great
guys.
D
We
organization
are
doing
but
I
think
that
when
you
talk
about
incentives,
I'm
not
for
poor
profits,
getting
the
same
type
of
incentives
to
me,
that's
club
and
you're
Keen
to
a
certain
type
of
kid,
but
I
am
for
non-profits
making
sure
we
can
help
everybody
but
again
helping
them
for
profits,
but
make
sure
there
are
different
type
of
incentives.
F
Thank
you,
Mr
chairman,
you
know,
let's,
let's
go
back
a
little
bit
in
history
when
I
played
at
Cascade
Park,
by
the
way
that
Park
is
the
only
one
that
I
know.
That's
got
two
individuals
in
the
Baseball
Hall
of
Fame,
Tony,
arusa
and
Alan
Lopez
may
be
the
only
two
in
the
United
States
that
has
two
in
the
Hall
of
Fame.
Who
knows
so?
There
was
no
literally,
then
it
was
City
lead
and
the
city
couldn't
wait
to
get
rid
of
the
coaches
and
get
rid
of
the
the
people
of
the
weather.
F
So
they
could
save
the
money,
and
that
was
Miss
Mexico.
Who
did
the
females
and
Andrew
spalito?
Who
did
the
males
and
we
had
three
or
four
hundred
kids,
only
two
people
there
that
we
learned
we
learned
because
we
only
we
were
taught
and
we
looked
and
we
had
to
emulate
what
they
taught
us,
because
there
was
so
many
kids
that
we
couldn't
get
properly
organized
organization
we
had
but
commitment
to
teaching
you
how
to
throw
a
curve,
how
to
throw
a
knuckleball
that
was
gone.
You
had
to
learn
it
on
yourself.
F
You're
smiling
because
you're
in
my
list
and
the
next
thing,
the
next
thing
is
Little
League
came
on
Little
League
flourished
for
many
years,
but
now
it's
fluttering
down
and
you
can
correct
me
anytime,
you
want
from
what
I
see
the
difference
is
that
in
Little
League
now
they're
playing
the
old
baseball
you've
got
to
be
in
your
bag
until
you're,
14
years
old.
You
can't
steal
second,
until
the
pet,
the
catcher
gets
the
ball.
F
It's
Antiquated,
it's
not
the
real
baseball
and
from
what
I
see
and
I'm
not
saying
this
is
a
fact
from
what
I
see
like
when
I
drive
to
go
to
my
favorite
place,
Walmart
and
I
go
by
West
Tampa
Little,
League
I
see
it
bacon
most
of
the
time,
I,
don't
think
they
got
100
kids
there
and
West
Tampa
one
time
had
six
or
seven
or
eight
hundred
kids,
they
had
seven
or
eight
twelve-year-old
playing
I.
Think
they
got.
One
I
can
verify
this
by
getting
my
information.
F
F
The
parents
are
the
ones
that
driving
this
thing.
If
there's
a
need
and
all
that
pain
the
knee
goes
away,
but
when
every
parent
in
America
thinks
that
their
daughter
and
their
sons
are
going
to
be
professional
and
basketball
or
tennis
or
football,
they
think
that
they're
going
to
make
it
up
and
again
my
father
told
me
I
was
terrible.
That's
why
I
didn't
make
it,
but
what
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
is
that
all
these
parents
want
somebody
to
babysit,
but
they
don't
want
to
go
to
a
little
league.
F
I,
don't
know
if
that's
true
or
not
so
maybe
I
should
be
saying
it.
That's
what
I
heard
and
was
it
from
Mr
Russo.
So
what
I'm
saying
is
what
is
it
about?
It's
about
the
kids
being
at
some
place
for
some
period
of
time
to
learn
about
what,
when
you
play
sports
and
that
you're
going
to
be
a
professional
that
you
learn
how
to
deal
with
others
and
you
learn
about
what
you
learn
about
winning
and
you
learn
about
losing
and
what
makes
a
winner
is
somebody
who
doesn't
want
to
lose
it.
F
What
makes
a
great
employee
somebody
wants
to
be
better
than
the
one
next
to
them,
and
life
teaches
you
about
sports,
no
wonder:
I
lost
so
many
baseball
games.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
is
that
in
life,
it's
who
you
hang
out
with
this
old
thing
in
Spanish.
It
tells
me
don't
tell
me
who
you
are
tell
me
who
you
hang
around
with
and
I'll
tell
you
who
you
are,
and
that
still
goes
to
society
today.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
it's
about
all
the
kids
that
are
there?
F
Or
whatever,
so,
let's
say
that
they
all
vanish
tomorrow.
Where
are
the
kids
going
to
the
street
they're
not
going
back
to
where
they
came
from?
They
don't
want
to
be
there.
Their
parents
are
telling
them
you're
going
to
be
a
star,
maybe
one
and
ten
thousand
makes
it
that's
a
fact
he
made
it.
It
wasn't
because
of
me
because
he
was
better
player
than
the
rest
of
them.
F
I
had
many
of
them
go
to
the
majors
from
there
and
was
Tampa
one
guy
paid
for
the
Yankees
for
five
years.
But
what
I'm
saying
is
it
wasn't
because
I
coached
them?
It
was
already
as
far
I
just
told
him.
Listen,
don't
throw
a
curfew,
winning
nine
to
nothing.
Let's
go
home,
throw
fastballs!
That's
all
I
told
the
kid,
because
today's
life,
the
parents,
or
see
this
glamorous
thing
and
and
God
bless
them
that
they
do
and
God
bless
them
that
to
send
them
to
University
and
I.
F
Can't
tell
you
how
many
I
I'm
going
to
have
them
come
up
and
and
I'm
going
to
ask
him
some
questions
about
what
is
that
program
produced
and
scholarships
to
kids?
Kids,
that
maybe
would
have
never
made
it
nowhere
else,
not
even
a
college
education.
What
is
it
done?
How
many
kids
went
to
college?
How
many
kids
got
a
scholarship?
The
return
on
the
dollar
is
so
much
greater
than
what
we
think
and
I'm
not
here
to
chastise
the
department
I'm
not
doing
that.
F
F
The
place
was
in
horrible
condition,
I
don't
know
if
it's
his
maintenance,
your
maintenance,
the
sidewalk
was
all
cracked
up.
I
had
10
years
of
service
there
there
were
the
10
best
years
of
my
life.
In
fact,
two
kids
saved
me
from
a
lot
of
grief
and
when
they
came
on
the
team
I
told
them
they
weren't
good
enough
to
play,
but
that
I.
F
Way,
I
would
teach
you
what
I
knew
and
I
didn't
want
him
to
swing.
I
didn't
just
didn't,
want
him
to
get
hurt
one
of
them
now.
Is
he
what
the
chief
of
staff
in
the
city
of
Miami
and
the
other
one
is
a
big
guy
that
broke
her
in
the
real
estate,
business
and
I'm,
so
proud
of
them,
and
they
turned
out
to
be
great
citizens
not
because
of
me,
but
because
they
were
around
other
kids
that
were
teaching
them.
F
F
D
D
Reynolds
right,
you
know,
I
love,
good
coaches,
you
know
I
do
I'm
strictly
about
how
they
dress,
how
they
teach
kids.
That's
just
my
mentor.
My
motto
on
that
my
concern
is
again:
it's
open
space,
that's
utilize,
but
my
thing
is
incentives.
I
want
to
know
what
the
incentives
are
with
the
non-profit
for-profit,
because
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
we
can't
have
the
same
because
I
mean,
but
because,
if
people
are
getting
paid
and
and
and
and
doing
this
other
thing,
you
got
people
that
are
volunteering
their
time.
D
You
know
I
know
a
lot
about
your
leads
where
I
was
in
charge
of
a
lot
of
them.
We
had
another
exempt
Clauses
and
things
like
that.
We
got
a
little
extra
on
the
dollar
to
what
we
can
be
able
to
afford
to
play,
and
things
like
that.
But
I
just
want
to
know
about
the
incentives.
That's
my
biggest
issue
is:
what
are
we
getting
for
the
ball.
F
And
that
reminds
me
Mr
good
when
you
say
for
proper,
not
profit,
even
in
the
legally
Little
League
parents
have
to
pay
at
the
point
of
join
up.
You
have
a
fee
and
you're
required
to
work
so
many
hours
in
the
concession
stand.
Then
you
have
to
help
with
a
field.
You
have
so
many
things
you
got
to
do
and
now
I
mean
I
like
it
more
likely.
I
couldn't
make
the
team,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
all
these
things
have
to
be
a
consideration
and
Mr
Russell.
Can
you
bring
us
up
to
date?
D
B
D
N
N
So
with
the
little
league,
so
the
the
biggest
thing
is
that
they
have
exclusive
exclusivity
to
that
field
or
that
that
complex,
so
they
have
the
first
priority.
First
right
to
refusal,
we
have
other
travel
ball
organizations
that
do
practice
at
little
leagues,
but
they
have
to
operate
outside
of
the
Little
League
schedule.
Okay,
so
the
little
leagues
their
practices,
their
games
come
first
and
then
the
academies
or
travel
ball.
Sports
comes.
Second,
we
do
with
the
little
leagues
we
pay
their
utilities.
We
cover
all
of
those
expenses.
N
The
little
leagues
are
responsible
for
their
infields
and
the
maintenance
of
their
infields.
Now
that
being
said,
if
we
have
a
little
league
that
needs
help
with
it,
we
do
assist
with
that
academies,
organizations
for-profits.
We
do
all
the
maintenance
we
be
in
the
city.
So
that's
where
it
comes
in
where
we
unlock
it.
So
we
go.
We
do
all
the
maintenance.
We
still
pay
the
utilities.
We
maintain
all
of
that
that
organization
all
they
have
to
do
is
come
in
practice
and
walk
out.
N
So
it's
I
can
compare
it
to
almost
like
a
Rec
Center
versus
you
know.
It's
like
our
agreement
with
the
boys
and
girls
club
when
they
have
a
facility.
They
maintain
everything
they
They
carried
on
versus
someone
who
wants
to
come
in
Council
because
you
just
want
to
rent
the
facility
for
a
day
or
for
every
other
day
you
come
in.
We
unlock
the
door,
we
let
you
in.
We
come
back,
we
lock
the
facility,
so
those
are
a
little
bit
of
the
differences
out
of
there.
N
Okay
so
and
then
also
the
Little
League's
Clues.
They
don't
pay
for
the
facility,
so
that
agreement
is
also
also
there
as
well.
There's
no
payment
there,
but
they
do
maintain
it
and
you're
right.
Councilman
Miranda,
there's
volunteer
hours.
There's
Services
put
back
in
there
that
that's
done
there
as
well.
P
I'd
like
to
thank
the
chief
of
staff
and
city
council
for
allowing
me
to
come
and
speak,
there
were
some
things
said
there
that
were
true
but
hit
Factory,
baseball
and
softball
academy
is
a
non-profit
Association.
Okay,
we're
a
non-profit
organization,
we're
501c3.
We
do
pay
our
coaches,
just
like
the
YMCA
as
a
non-profit
and
they
pay
their
employees.
So
in
2015
we
went
to
Mr
Miranda
my
brother
and
I
as
Hit
Factory,
and
we
asked
to
take
over
a
defunct
League.
P
Little
League
Baseball
had
not
been
at
wellswood
since
the
early
90s
early
90s,
so
we
didn't
take
over
till
2015.,
so
the
early
90s
Little
League
left
wellswood.
It
became
Pony
Baseball
a
different
organization.
Okay,
so
it
became
Pony
Baseball
well
in
the
year
of
2015,
wellswood
lost
its
Pony
Baseball
Charter,
so
it
had
no
Charter
whatsoever.
P
P
We
would
make
those
three
teams,
travel
teams
and
then
I
would
call
all
the
travel
organizations
around
the
city
that
I
knew
to
come
play
at
wellswood,
so
the
park
would
stay
viable
and
the
park
would
stay
alive.
Since
2015
we
have
saved
the
city
of
Tampa
over
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
My
brother
and
I
hit
Factory
in
our
new
partner.
Vince
scano
have
put
that
money
into
the
facility
through
renting
of
the
fields
and
full
maintenance
of
the
facility.
P
Not
one
thing
has
been
done
to
wellswood
fields
from
the
city
of
Tampa,
Park
and
Recreations
for
30
years.
I
know
because
I
played
there
at
six
years
old
for
Mr
Miranda
everything
that
has
been
done
at
that
complex
where
it
comes
to
replacing
grass
replacing
clay,
all
the
cutting
of
the
grass
we
have
done
since
2015
are
dollars
and
a
lot
of
our
dollars
come
in
from
donations
like
I
say
we're
a
501c3.
We
have
an
annual
golf
tournament.
We
have
an
annual
poker
night.
We
have
20
to
25
percent
of
our
children.
P
P
So
that's
where
my
background
of
baseball
comes
from
and
since
1990
the
year
I
got
drafted,
we
have
given
free
baseball
clinics
to
anybody
for
poor
kids,
rich
kids
doesn't
matter
free,
we've
done
coaching
clinics
at
different
heights.
Excuse
me
at
different
little
leagues.
We
have
done
baseball
and
softball
camps
for
the
boys
and
girls
club
that
we
had
for
three
years
and
then
right
right
as
covet
hit.
Then
they
didn't
renew
the
contract
because
they
were
doing
something
with
the
NFL.
P
So
we
had
over
100
Kids
three
for
three
years
in
a
row
at
wellswood.
Promoting
baseball
and
softball
there
are
some
things
that
have
been
said
that
aren't
true,
because
the
biggest
softball
organization
in
the
in
the
city
of
Tampa
is
run
by
Parks
and
Recreations,
and
it's
called
team
Tampa
and
they
have
the
best
facility
in
the
city
of
Tampa
the
best
facility
in
the
city
of
Tampa.
And
if
you,
if
I
know,
I
passed
out
a
booklet
for
everybody
to
look
at.
P
If
you
look
at
this
booklet,
I
can
tell
you,
there's
been
no
changes
at
wellswood
for
30
years,
despite
the
amount
of
money
that
our
organization
has
put
into
it
and
the
maintenance
that
we've
done
so
right.
Now
we
have
a
situation
where
we
have
there's
a
school
called
Trinity
School
for
Children,
which
is
a
half
a
block
away
from
the
ballpark.
P
We
have
eight
to
ten
kids
that
play
for
our
organization
from
Trinity.
Those
eight
to
ten
kids
come
to
practice,
Monday,
Tuesday,
Wednesday
or
Thursday.
So
those
kids
don't
have
the
ability
to
be
picked
up
from
school.
They
don't
have
the
ability
to
go
to
daycare
their
parents
work
till
late,
so
we
would
get
to
the
field
early,
meaning
myself,
my
brother
and
Vince
Gano.
Those
three
kids
would
have
a
safe
haven
to
be
at.
They
would
come
upstairs
with
us.
P
Do
their
homework
sit
down
relax,
but
they
had
a
safe
place
to
go
all
for
no
charge
all
for
no
charge
and
we
gave
them
the
ability
to
have
a
safe
place.
Now
those
children
had
nowhere
to
go.
I
talked
to
a
couple
of
parents,
they
go
sit
at
the
bowling
alley
for
two
and
a
half
hours
before
they
can
get
into
the
ballpark
for
their
practice.
P
We
have
been
told
in
several
city
meetings
that
are
I'm
sorry
park
and
rec
meetings
that
we
would
have
the
ability
to
use
the
upstairs
and
the
concession
stand
right
now.
The
concession
stand
has
been
closed.
Since
July,
we
personally
have
at
least
thirty
thousand
dollars
worth
of
concession
equipment
just
sitting
there
rotting
away.
P
I,
don't
know
if
the
Park
and
Recs
Department
pays
for
termite
service
or
rodent
service,
but
we've
did
that
every
month,
for
the
last
seven
years,
there's
already
rats
running
back
around
the
ballpark.
We
saw
him
the
other
day
because
I
don't
know
if
that
service
is
provided
anymore
in
the
last
two
months.
Since
we
have
not
been
at
the
Ballpark
taking
care
of
the
fields,
the
fields
are
already
overgrown.
They
already
have
lips
on
the
back
of
the
infield.
P
There's
grass
growing
over
things,
because
it's
not
cared
for
the
way
we
would
care
for
it.
On
a
regular
day,
my
brother
and
our
other
partner
vent
Scania
live
in
the
Wellsville
Community
two
blocks
away
from
the
field.
My
brother's
normal
day
would
Sev
11
o'clock
in
the
morning.
He
would
go
to
the
park.
He
would
water
and
drag
all
the
fields
if
they
needed
to
be
cut
or
trimmed.
He
would
do
that.
P
P
P
Park
and
Recreation
Department
didn't
pay
for
the
new
clay
or
all
the
materials
that
needed
to
be
on
the
field
we
paid
for
that,
but
Park
and
Recreation
got
paid
and
we
got
no
compensation
and
we
did
all
the
work
because
we
were
in
charge
of
the
facility
if
you
walked
into
the
facility.
Now
in
a
couple
of
council,
men
walk
walk
to
the
facility
and
they
saw
it
and
they
were
lucky
to
get
in
because
they
had.
P
They
were
cutting
the
grass
that
day,
but
they
couldn't
walk
through
the
field
because
the
grass
was
too
high.
Our
pitchers
can't
use
the
bullpens
because
the
grass
is
too
high
and
it's
not
taken
care
of
to
the
level
that
we
took
care
of
the
field.
And
that's
that's
all
we're
saying:
I
listen
if
they
want
to
cut
the
grass,
they
cut
the
grass,
but
we
really
need
use
of
the
upstairs
facility
and
a
concession
stand.
P
The
economic
impact
we
have
on
the
community
is
unbelievable,
with
Mr
Empanada,
mambos,
restaurant
and
and
Mickey's
sandwich
shop,
so
respectfully
I
request.
If
we
could
have
a
private
meeting
to
cover
more
of
this
I
I
would
I
would
truly
appreciate
it.
I
have
no
problem
with
Miss,
Hills
or
Miss.
Erickson
I
think
they're,
wonderful
women
and
they
do
a
great
job.
I
just
would
like
to
resolve
it,
and
especially
for
the
kids,
because
those
are
the
ones
that
are
paid.
The
costs.
N
No
I
mean
I.
Thank
you,
sir.
For
this
minute
no
I
mean
we
can
absolutely
sit
down
and
talk
about
it.
I
we
go
back
20
years
and
and
he's
right.
It's
we
just
think
we
can
sit
down
and
discuss
what
says
what
sits
requests
are
upstairs
concession
stand
and
things
of
that
nature.
N
For
us,
we
just
want
to
make
sure
and
I'll
just
keep
saying
this.
The
agreement,
that's
with
them,
is
consistent
with
same
organizations
that
are
just
like
them
with
the
other
69
organizations
that
we
have.
That
is
our
biggest
thing,
ensure
that
it's
consistent
and
we
do
want
access
for
all
the
same
goal.
He
wants
the
access
for
all
for
everyone
have
that
opportunity.
That
is
our
goal
in
parks
and
rec.
That
has
not
changed,
but
really
the
agreement
itself
is
is
really
our
thing.
It's
just
making
sure
we're
consistent
with
that.
N
F
Miranda
hi
I'm
thinking
how
to
solve
this,
and
the
only
thing
I
can
think
of
is
maybe
Miss
Hills
can
get
an
appointment
with
the
chief
of
staff
and
Mr
Paul
Russo
and
they
work
it
out.
I
I
mean
that's
the
only
thing
I
can
think
of.
We
don't
do
contracts,
we
either
prove
them
or
reject
them.
That's
what
we
do,
but
talking
about
that
I'm
going
to
meet
you
and
the
lady
in
the
back,
and
you
and
I
are
going
to
have
a
little
game
you're
not
going
to
win.
You.
N
N
It
depends
on
the
location,
so
some
of
these
other
or
the
other
organizations
are
at
little
leaks,
which
those
little
leagues
are
maintained
in
the
fields.
So
those
outside
organizations
are
getting
the
benefits
of
the
that
current
Little
League.
Maintaining
the
inside
some
of
the
fields
are
ours
like
Rome
and
Sly
on
the
corner
of
Roman
Sly
Park,
the
city
maintains
those,
so
it
all
depends
on
the
location,
but
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
fields.
N
So
some
of
these
organizations
are
at
the
little
leagues
which
he's
right,
the
little
leagues
do
maintain
their
own.
So
these
other
organizations
are
benefiting
from
the
little
leaks
that
are
being
on
there
very
similar
to
how
he
was
saying.
Trinity
was
at
the
facility
that
you
know
they
would
maintain.
L
Because,
at
the
beginning
of
the
conversation,
I
heard
that
the
agreement
that
that
people
have
are
they
go
in,
they
use
the
fields
they
go
home
and
then
the
city
takes
care
of
all
the
maintenance.
Now
you've
said
that
we
maintain
some
others
privately
maintain
their
own
this
and
that.
But
the
thing
is
and
I
don't
know
how
the
other
organizations
are,
but
they're
offering.
You
know
before
school
after
school
Services
whatever
it
is.
L
You
know
not
call
it
babysitting,
but
you
know
students
are
coming
in
they're
being
able
to
use
the
facilities,
students
that
don't
have
parents
that
are
able
to
pick
them
up
because
they're
working
you
know
we're
keeping
them
out
of
trouble,
essentially
off
the
streets
and
and
keeping
them
occupied.
L
But
as
councilman
Miranda
mentioned,
I
think
you
know
we
you
John
Bennett.
Whoever
else
has
a
meeting
with
the
with
Mr
Russo
Miss
Russo's
brother
and
try
to
resolve
this
I
see
it
as
a
community
benefit.
You
know
what
they're
doing
not
to
treat
them
differently,
but
you
know
the
investment
that
they've
been
making
for
so
many
years
and
what
it
saved
the
taxpayers,
because
again
they're
using
that
funding
I
think
makes
them
unique
to
the
other,
possibly
69
other
individuals
that
we
have
agreements
with
all.
B
D
Right
well,
I
think
what
happens
is
this
and
I
think
Miss
Russo
said
I
think
the
league
was
a
little
league
for
a
long
time.
It
went
default
and
with
the
pony,
ball,
I.
Remember:
I,
remember
that!
Well
because
Wells,
what
you
saw
here
a
great
place
to
play
at
and
I
know
the
city
kind
of
tries
to
hold
those
fields
a
little
bit
for
little
league
programs.
D
In
case
one
comes
back
because
little
league
is
a
chart
program
by
the
United
States
and
there's
only
three
of
them,
which
is
them
and
the
Boy
Scouts
and
one
other.
But
since
Miss
Russell
said
they
are
a
non-profit,
you
should
have
to
verify
whatever
it's
their
non-profit
I.
Don't
know
that
the
Takeover
could
be
because
they're
a
non-profit
now
and
they
go
in
the
guidelines
of
a
non-profit
but
again
I.
Look
at
the
what
what
his
non-profit?
What
is
what
his
nonprofit
is
doing
versus
other
non-profits
and.
P
I
have
to
say
something:
I
don't
want
to
take
over
anything.
Okay,
I
want
to
have
I
love,
sharesha
I've
known
her,
since
I
was
young
I'm
now
old,
so
I
have
nothing
against
her
I.
Have
nothing
against
Heather
I
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
wonderful
working
agreement
with
them.
We're
in
this
together
we're
in
it
for
kids.
That
was.
D
P
I
understand
no
I,
know
I,
know
what
you're
saying
I'm
not
here
to
get
rich
I
played
baseball
for
11
years,
I'm
I've
been
retired,
I've
been
retired
longer
than
I
played,
and
it
gave
me
a
good
life
baseball
gave
me
a
good
life.
I
want
my
dream
for
the
kids
that
I
coach,
boys
and
girls
is
I,
want
them
to
have
the
opportunities
to
do
the
things.
I
did
and
that's-
and
you
know
my
son's
a
head
coach
now
at
Tampa
Catholic.
He
he
played
here.
P
He
was
also
a
professional
baseball
player
for
the
Washington
Nationals
I'm,
going
to
be
a
grandfather.
I
found
out
baby
boy
on
the
way.
So
so,
but
you
know
we
were
playing
at
the
Yankee
complex
the
other
day
and
my
goal
for
our
kids
is
for
them
to
be
able
to
play
on
those
type
of
fields.
If
you
go
to
Pinellas
County
and
look
at
those
fields,
they're
Immaculate
and
then
I
know
it's
all
based
on
budget.
P
B
P
P
B
F
That
Mr
Russo
played
for
your
only
team
to
ever
be
West
Tampa,
that's
right
and
ursul's
team
and
in
one
year,
and
we
beat
them
both
three
to
two
right.
Thank
you
very
much
and
you
have
a
nice
day.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
both
very
much.
Thank
you
appreciate.
B
B
A
John's
assistant,
City
attorney,
you
asked
us
to
come
back
and
report
on
directors
insurance,
which,
regarding
local
government,
is
public
official
liability
insurance
and
any
options
out
there.
I
just
want
to
start
off
because
I
don't
know
that
we've
discussed
qualified
immunity
or
absolute
immunity
before,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear
to
everyone
that
if
council
is
sued
as
a
body
because
of
a
vote
that
you
took,
you
have
absolute
immunity
from
that.
A
A
It's
a
general
order
rule
that
the
government
does
not
provide
a
legal
defense
or
pay
for
outside
counsel
at
the
onset
of
the
litigation,
because
it's
difficult
to
determine
at
the
beginning
of
litigation
whether
those
prongs
were
met
so
I
just
want
to
I
know.
We've
all
talked
about
that,
but
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
again
to
clarify.
So
do
you
have
any
questions
about
that?
Ask
that
first.
A
We
have,
we
have
our
insurance
broker
all
the
way
from
Texas
who
needs
to
get
on
a
plane
soon.
So.
N
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
Valerie
Horton
rakes
I
am
the
city's
risk
manager
good
to
see
each
of
you.
We've
had
the
opportunity
to
have
have
sessions
with
you
so
that
you
can
get
questions
answered
and
very
quickly.
We
are
getting
ready
to
enter
into
our
insurance
renewal.
It
is
a
long
process,
but
because
we
are
getting
ready
to
do
that.
I
would
like
to
let
you
know
that
we
will
be
looking
at
ways
to
lower
our
sir
that
self-insured
retention
and
our
broker
is
here.
N
N
Absolutely
and
a
footnote
to
that
is,
we
are
also
at
the
mercy
of
the
insurance
Market,
but
we
would
definitely
do
that
and
based
up
on
the
things
that
have
occurred.
Thus
far,
I
have
talked
with
each
of
you,
except
for
one
and
so
I
do
have
information
about
your
concerns
and
your
frustrations
and
that
information
will
be
used
as
we
do
our
renewal
for
the
upcoming
year.
Thank
you
any
other
questions.
A
I
believe
they
were
very
succinct
in
their
that
what
they
provided
to
you,
really,
what
you
need
to
understand
about
insurances,
I,
know
your
concerns
are
about
the
deductible
and
the
retention,
the
policy
terms
and
conditions
aren't
going
to
be
really
different.
They're
still
going
to
provide
basically
the
same
coverage
as
you're,
seeing
you're
just
going
to
the
coverages
that
are
going
to
be
in
the
policy
may
have
a
lower
deductible
to
them.
Councilman.
F
Brandon,
thank
you
much
chairman
I
assume
that,
from
what
I
heard,
even
those
put
in
a
very
different
text
that
we
would
were
what
we
understood
to
be,
even
though
it
wasn't
said,
is
that
the
city
would
provide
coverage
from
their
legal
staff.
F
A
F
F
Depends
on
the
facts,
try
to
clear
my
own
mind,
because
I
guess
I
got
I'm
a
product
of
how
I
was
raised
and
I
was
raised.
If
you
do
something
wrong,
meaning
me
no
one
else.
It's
up
to
you
to
pay
for
it.
My
father
told
me
that
my
mother
told
me
that
my
whole
family
told
me
that,
because
when
they
raised
you,
everybody
raised
you
not
only
your
mother
and
father
when
I
was
growing
up,
so
there's
a
different
pressure
on
you
not
to
mess
up
and
I
had
to
change
the
word
mess
up.
D
Goose
and
I
definitely
respect
with
Mr
Miranda
said
but
see
sometimes
there's
circumstances
I
get
into
play
that
happened.
So
we
I
respect
what
you're
saying
being
the
Elder
statements
here,
but
sometimes
there
are
there.
There
are
things
that
go
awry
and
things
that
happen
and
and
and
then
you
have
to
come
back.
You
have
to
fight
on
your
own
to
do
things
so
I
would
say
you're
right
on
one
Accord,
but
another
Court
there's
another
situation
as
well.
D
A
B
E
Yes,
thank
you
Mr
chairman
Martin,
Shelby
city
council
attorney.
This
is
this.
Is
my
my
day,
two
or
day
three
of
me
being
back
and
I,
wasn't
privy
to
the
conversation
for
the
previous
item.
E
I
didn't
I,
wasn't
aware
the
council
met
it
is
relevant
to
mine
and
I
haven't
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
our
new
City
attorney
about
that,
because
the
question
is
what
Miss
John
said
is
that's
related
to
the
decision
of
the
of
the
City
attorney
presently
with
regard
to
that
and
I'm
familiar
with
that,
because
I
was
involved
in
an
issue
regarding
reimbursement
myself,
which
creates
another
issue.
E
So
Council
was
a
long
agenda
but
I'm
going
to
ask
your
Indulgence
if
you
can
continue
this
for
a
couple
of
weeks
to
be
able
to
meet
catch
up,
because
a
lot
of
what
I
heard
is
a
lot
of
what
I
would
have
said.
So
with
regard
to
what.
E
I
want
to
make
sure
I
have
the
opportunity,
the
the
I'll
take
the
20th
and
that'll.
Be
it
sir
I'll.
N
Valerie
Horton
rakes
risk
manager
for
the
City
of
Tampa.
We
are
going
into
renewal
and
we
won't
really
have
any
additional
information
for
the
October
meeting
our
renewal
process.
We
will
begin
to
get
quotes
around
February,
early
March
and
so
coming
back
in
October.
We
would
have
no
additional
information.
B
I
I
moved
it,
we
just
number.
E
E
I
That
we
forward
that
and
then
allow
number
13
to
come
back
when
they
have
an
answer.
We.
E
B
I
B
Number
15.
file,
number
c
I'm
22-75288.
E
Thank
you
councilman
that
I
guess
I'm
not
privy
to
discussion.
I
spoke
with
Mr
Massey
about
it
very
briefly,
I,
don't
know
what
council's
pleasure
is
at
this
time
or
you
can
continue
it
because
I
have
not
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
to
all
of
you.
So
it's
your
pleasure,
but
I'm
certainly
happy
to
hear
what
council
has
to
say
about
it,
but
it's
late
and
if
Council
wishes
to
continue
as
a
woman's
heart
attack.
I
I
E
L
I
I
B
K
K
Afternoon,
Council
Abby
Seeley,
Deputy,
Administrator
development
and
growth
management
items,
16
17,
18,
19,
20
and
21..
Those
were
the
publicly
initiated
text
amendments
that
we
workshopped
with
you
on
June
23rd.
This
is
allowing
adu's
accessory
dwelling
units
in
non-conforming
structures
allowing
extended
family
residences
and
non-conforming
structures,
access
to
the
local
Street,
allowing
single
family
attached
and
multi-family
within
the
city's
office
and
Commercial
districts.
K
What
I
did
was
I,
provided
you
with
a
memo
I,
provided
you
with
the
draft
language
today
in
anticipation
of
asking
that
we
come
on
October
22nd
to
Workshop
these
items
with
you.
This
allows
some
time
now
for
a
review
of
that
language.
It
allows
it
for
the
public.
Eric
Cotton
is
waiting
until
you
make
a
motion
today
and
then
we
will
get
it
uploaded
on
our
website
with
the
applicable
dates.
K
So
that
they're
aware
we
are
going
to
hold
a
public
information
meeting
on
September
28th
with
to
get
an
initial
discussion
going
with
the
public
on
these.
And
then
we
will
have
the
initial
briefing
with
the
Planning
Commission
prior
to
coming
to
you
for
Workshop.
But
I
did
want
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity,
provide
that
language
up
front
and
ask
for
those
dates
today,
and
that
will
clear
those
items.
F
K
I
Thank
you,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
for
all
of
your
effort
on
this
and
I
have
read
these
and
I.
Think
again.
I
don't
want
to
pass
too
much
judgment
because
we
really
want
to
go
through
forward
the
public
information
and
the
Planning
Commission
briefing,
but
I
really
appreciate
your
effort
to
get
us
to
this
point
and
I
look
forward
to
the
workshop,
where
we
can
really
finalize,
or
at
least
get
these
further
further
settled.
K
And
you'll
remember:
in
October
we
also
have
making
adus
a
specified
use,
so
that
will
actually
change
kind
of
this
language.
But
it's
a
two-step
process
making
affordable
housing,
a
specified,
use
or
attainable
housing,
a
specified
use
and
then
also
some
bonus
density
discussion.
So
we
have
those
as
well
so
it'll
be
a
very
full
day.
I
believe
you're,
also
having
a
memo
come
from
miss
doc
on
two
privately
initiated
amendments
that
are
also
being
asked
to
be
workshopped
on
that
day,
and
that
was
the
designated
growth
management
Workshop
day.
So
thank
you.
F
Miranda,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
on
item
number
16
I,
as
I
talked
to
you
yesterday
on
the
phone
on
it,
I'm,
not
against
it,
but
I
feel
that
the
city
in
order
to
cover
itself.
You
have
to
prove
to
me
that
that's
a
relative
and
you
can
do
that
now:
real
easy
with
different
things
and
century.com
or
whatever
it
is
that
they
use
to
track
who
your
mother
is.
Your
father
is
your
Aunt.
F
Your
uncle
tells
you
everybody
and
when
they
have
that
documentation,
then
I'm
not
against
it,
but
today
I
know
of
hundreds
and
maybe
thousands
of
homes
that
are
not
paying
the
higher
ed
for
alarm
tax
and
they
got
the
health
divided
into
four
pieces.
The
renting
rooms
they're
not
paying
the
fed
the
25
or
30
percent
they're,
not
paying
just
the
only
thing
is
a
residential
because
it's
under
one
person's
name
and
there's
three
families
living
there
and
they're
renting
it
out.
F
They're,
not
paying
the
ad
for
alarm
tax
like
three
and
a
half
times
the
break.
When
you
have
the
school
system
and
others
that
can't
have
money
for
the
teachers
enough
money
to
keep
good
teachers
or
any
teachers
nowadays,
I
got
to
have
more
proof
than
just
a
signed
document.
That
yeah
that's
my
relative
to
me
that
doesn't
I
trust
that
I
always
like
to
verify.
I
G
B
A
Afternoon,
Council
McLean
Evans
assistance
item
number
22
is
first
reading
of
a
substitute
ordinance
that
is
modifying
section,
21-116
and
116.1
to
eliminate
conflicting
references
to
the
stormwater
technical
standards
manual
and
correct
references
to
the
Department.
O
F
Make
sure
that
in
other
words,
do
we
have
a
system
where
someone
buys
a
house
and
it's
got
part
of
it
but
pavers
or
concrete,
and
then
it
settled
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
they
add
more
concrete
and
more
payment.
Do
you
have
a
way
of
finding
out
what's
going
on
because
they
should
pay
a
higher
rate
of
the
rest
of
the
taxpayers?
Shouldn't
pay
that.
F
F
B
S
S
Some
of
it
is
cleanup
and
modifications
to
existing
tables
just
to
clarify
certain
standards.
It
includes
a
revision
to
the
definition
section
of
the
code
for
the
definition
of
grand
tree,
and
this
has
been
reviewed
by
staff.
The
applicant
worked
with
natural
resources
on
this
language
and
staff
has
no
objections
to
this
request.
The
public
information
meeting
was
held
in
May.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
on
the
timing
and
the
processing
schedule
they.
S
It
was
before
you
for
Workshop
Council
in
June,
and
it
went
before
the
Planning
Commission
in
August
and
the
Planning
Commission
had
a
recommendation
of
consistent
and
I
believe
the
applicant
is
there
in
Chambers
Ricky
pedarica?
Is
there
and
I'll?
Let
him
speak
since
it
is
a
privately
initiated,
Amendment
I'm
available.
If
you
have
questions
Council
any.
E
J
F
Thank
you,
chairman
Mr
Perico.
Thank
you
for
what
you've
done
here,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
not
saying
that
you're
responsible
for
this.
But
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
a
Clarity
on
when
something
comes
in,
and
you
have
so
many
trees
that
you
have
to
plant
somewhere
else.
Is
there
a
mechanism
to
your
knowledge
where
you
know
where
the
trees
are
going
and
you
put
money
into
the
fun
and
it
balances
out
I'm.
C
F
B
Thank
you.
Councilman
Maniscalco,.
L
B
A
S
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
Council,
LaShonda
development,
coordination
and
Council
item
24
is
another
privately
initiated
text.
Amendment
the
applicant
is
Angela
robber.
She
is
requesting
an
amendment
to
the
CBD
with
just
a
central
business
district
science
standards.
The
request
includes
amending
some
of
the
general
sign
requirements
which
are
found
in
table
183.1.
This
would
also
modify
certain
footnotes
within
that
table.
S
This
is
regarding
the
orientation
of
signage
and
what
is
considered
Frontage
and
they
allow
it
the
allowance
of
signage
on
any
Frontage,
and
this
also
includes
adding
sign
language
from
the
sign
code,
which
would
apply
Citywide
to
the
CBD
district,
which
is
a
special
district
within
the
city
and
staff
review.
The
request
has
no
objections
to
this
request.
This
text
amendment
was
on
the
same
schedule
as
the
previous
text.
Amendment.
It
went
before
the
Planning
Commission
in
August.
The
recommendation
was
a
finding
of
consistent
and
I
believe
the
applicant
is
there
in
Chambers.
S
If
not,
she
is
present
online
and
I'm
available.
If
you
have.
A
Yes,
I
am
president
I
am
Angela
halber
with
Hilbert
Henderson,
101,
East,
Kennedy,
Boulevard
and
I'm,
also
in
the
interest
of
time.
If
you
have
questions
about
this
specifically,
then
I
can
answer
those.
If
you
want
the
full
presentation,
I'm
happy
to
share
that
as
well.
But
basically,
as
miss
doc
said,
we,
we
are
looking
to
kind
of
revise
the
code
in
simple
ways
to
make
it
a
little
bit
more
pedestrian
scaled
versus
the
city-wide
standards
that
currently
apply
when
the
CBD
code
was
amended.
A
The
sign
code
was
only
amended
to
allow
for
to
accommodate
the
number
of
signs,
but
every
other
provision
you
have
to
look
back
to
the
rest,
like
the
general
standards
that
are
in
the
code.
So
there's
never
been
anything.
That's
been
specifically
crafted
for
CBD
that
deals
with
the
types
of
signage,
and
so
that's
what
we're
trying
to
accommodate
with
simple
changes.
L
Quick
just
for
clarification,
so
would
this
be
to
allow
signs,
as
you
know,
for
example,
if
you're
walking
down
the
Franklin
Street
and
a
business
wants
to
put
a
sign,
you
know
overhead
in
front
of
their
entrance,
so
you
can
see
that
you
know
what's
coming
up.
This
would
pertain
to
that
correct.
It.
A
Does
and
a
lot
of
these
things
are
already
allowed
in
code,
so
there's
nothing
prohibiting
a
projecting
sign
in
CBD.
Currently
it's
just
that
when
you
go
to
that
specific
regulation,
you
have
to
go.
You
have
to
flip
back
to
General
standards
and
it's
crafted
for
a
more
Suburban
part
of
town.
So
imagine
a
strip
center
along
Kennedy
or
something
like
that
that
building
has
sprinted,
maybe
on
only
one
side
in
a
central
business
district.
A
You
have
fronted
on
all
four
sides,
so
you
have
to
choose
which
one's
the
primary
rented
and
it
just
doesn't
work
for
the
types
of
buildings,
and
it
certainly
doesn't
work
for
buildings
that
are
multi-story,
so
the
CBD
code
did
address,
having
signs
that
are
allowed
only
on
ground
level
and
on
the
top
of
the
building.
So
you
can't
have
signs
in
between
those
levels,
but
what
it
didn't
do
was
make
those
signs
that
project
from
the
building
pedestrian
scaled.
A
So
the
10
foot,
for
example,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
asking
is
that
the
signs,
the
clearance
from
the
ground
be
only
nine
feet,
which
is
a
pedestrian
scaled
height
versus
10
feet,
which
would
be
for
a
more
Suburban
kind
of
environment.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we're
doing
with
these
changes.
So.
L
It's
basically
taking
it
back
to
60
years
ago,
for
example,
when
there
was
a
lot
of
neon
again,
I
used
Franklin
Street,
because
it's
outside
there's
a
very
famous,
not
a
very
famous,
but
it's
on
social
media
there's
a
picture
of
Franklin
Street
in
1956,
and
it's
just
all
the
neon.
But
it's
signs
that
you're
talking
about
where
and
we
want
to
encourage
The
Pedestrian
aspect
of
it
because
businesses,
offices,
restaurants,
whatever
so
good.
We
I.
A
Would
love
to
be
able
to
do
some,
something
that
was
even
more
like
what
you
saw
on
Franklin
Street
in
1956?
That
would
be
my
ideal
situation
to
be
able
to
present
to
you.
We
are
not
touching
anything
with
lighting
or
anything
of
that
nature.
We've
tried
to
keep
these
proposed
changes
very
minimal,
but
the
design
that
you're
talking
about
is
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
good.
L
F
L
I
Moved
to
file
our
file
number
e2022-8
chapter,
27,
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading,
consideration
and
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
relating
to
building
signs,
making
revisions
to
City
of
Tampa
code
of
ordinances,
chapter
27,
zoning
and
Land
Development
amending
sections,
27-183
General,
District
development
standards,
repealing
all
ordinances
or
part
of
ordinances
in
Conflict
they're,
with
providing
for
several
abilities
providing
an
effective
date.
B
A
S
Thank
you
so
much
Council,
lashon
dock
development,
coordination
and
Council
item
25
is
the
last
privately
initiated
Amendment.
For
the
day
the
applicant
is
calling
rice
he
is
representing
Ken
stoltenberg.
The
request
is
to
amend
the
bonus
Provisions
in
the
channel
District
So,
currently
in
the
code
under
code,
section
27-140,
which
is
our
bonus
provision
section
of
the
zoning
code.
The
bonus
is
actually
calculated
based
upon
a
formula,
so
this
is
when
the
bonus
would
apply.
S
This
is
when
you
see
PD
site
plans
come
before
you,
and
sometimes
there
is
a
bonus
agreement
that
would
run
along
with
that
request
and
that
bonus
amount
when
it
is
chosen
to
utilize
the
bonus
as
a
payment.
That
amount
is
determined
based
upon
a
formula
that
formula
contains
a
ratio.
The
ratio
currently
in
the
code
is
ten
to
one.
What
is
being
requested
is
to
modify
that
ratio
to
to
a
hundred
to
one
so
for
every
one
dollar
of
contribution.
S
The
bonus
provision,
the
developer
and
the
owner
they're
granted
a
hundred
dollars
in
equivalent
development
dollars.
So
originally
the
request
was
to
amend
it
for
city-wide
request
for
any
bonus
requested
anywhere
in
the
city,
and
then
the
text
amendment
was
later
revised
to
the
channel
District.
Only
so
now
that
would
apply
just
to
the
channel
district
and
staff
reviewed
the
request.
We
have
no
objections,
since
it
was
modified
to
the
channel
District
only
and
the
applicant
is
there
in
Chambers
and
I'll.
S
O
Good
afternoon
Council
Colin
rice
here
for
the
applicant
Ken
stoltenberg
101,
East,
Kennedy,
Boulevard,
Suite
2800.
I,
want
to
thank
LaShawn
and
and
Abby
field
as
well
for
their
input
on
this.
O
O
What
that
would
mean
is
for
every
dollar
contribution
to
an
approved
amenity
for
the
bonus
formula,
there'd
be
an
equivalent
hundred
dollars
in
equivalent
development
dollars
that
goes
into
the
formula.
Basically,
it
reduces
what
has
become
an
increasing
burden,
particularly
for
the
channel
District,
to
meet
that
bonus
amount
threshold.
O
What
this
really
will
serve
to
do
is
supercharge
the
walkability
in
the
dense
City
in
an
area
where
we
really
need
it
and
is
kind
of
running
out
of
space
and
mind
you.
This
is
very
close
to
the
central
business
district,
which
has
no
bonus
limitations.
We
think
this
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
I.
Think
restricting
it
to
the
channel.
District
preserves
a
lot
of
the
other
bonus
amenity
viability
that
could
be
more
appropriate
elsewhere.
O
The
land
values
and
the
cost
of
construction
and
all
the
other
inputs
to
this
complicated
formula
have
really
created
what
has
amounted
to
a
disincentive
for
for
bonus
in
this
region.
Mr
schultenberg
was
here
this
morning.
He
would
love
to
have
the
chance
to
present
and
speak.
Unfortunately,
he
had
a
commitment
that
he
couldn't
move
for
this
afternoon,
so
he
does
apologize
for
that,
but
that's
basically
it
I'll
keep
it
brief,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
but
we
respectfully
request
your
approval.
O
D
File
number
eight
e022-8
ch27
order
has
been
present
for
further
consideration:
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
relating
to
bonus
Provisions
in
the
challenge
industry,
making
revisions
to
the
city
of
Tampa
code
of
ordinance,
chapter
27,
zoning
and
Land
Development
amending
station
27-140
bonus,
Provisions,
repealing
all
ordinance
or
part
of
ordinance
and
comfort.
There
providing
facility
providing
an
effective
date
motion.
F
A
B
D
B
I
B
B
H
B
B
L
Aye
is
there
any
opposed
and
if
I
may
set
items
93
and
94
for
scheduled
hearings,
October
20th
2022
at
1,
30
PM
for
file
number
su1-22-42-c
and
then.
B
B
H
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
if
I
may
just
really
fast
for
the
public
at
4,
30
I
have
a
call,
that's
probably
going
to
take
me
about
10
minutes
that
I
have
to
do
just
FYI
off
to
step
out
at
4
30.
For
about
that
time,
if
I
may.
Thank
you.
A
N
Afternoon
Mr
chair
City
members
of
city
council,
Susan,
Johnson
Velez
legal
department.
This
is
second
reading
on
an
ordinance
that
would
amend
an
ordinance
that
previously
adopted
the
10-year
water
supply
plan.
If
you
recall
there
was
an
exhibit
that
referenced
the
pure
project
that
and
that
exhibit
has-
was
modified
prior
to
adoption
of
the
ordinance,
but
the
incorrect
exhibit
was
attached
to
the
ordinance.
So
this
ordinance
just
corrects
that
error.
B
B
F
For
chairman
item
number
95
file,
number
ta,
slash,
cph
21,
that's
27th,
moving
arms
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
in
order
to
amending
the
ordinance
number
22
2022,
slash,
115,
passing
ordained
by
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Tampa
on
July
14
2022,
creating
correcting
a
scriveness
error
by
substituting
a
new
Exhibit
C
for
the
previous
approved
Exhibit
C.
To
accurately
reflect
the
Exhibit
C
adopted
by
city
council,
providing
preservability
providing
an
effective.
B
B
A
Good
afternoon
Mr
chair
and
Council
McLean
Evans.
This
is
this
attorney.
This
is
second
reading
on
an
ordinance
to
amend
chapter
26,
article
7,
which
is
our
Greece
management,
ordinance
to
bring
it
into
compliance
with
state
law
to
prohibit
a
practice
called
pump
and
return
grease
hauling
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
as
is
Brad
Baird
Deputy
Administrator
for
infrastructure
he's
available
remotely
by
CCTV.
B
B
H
Yes,
sir,
move
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
adoption,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
mending
City
of
Tampa
Court
of
ordinances,
chapter
26
utilities,
article
7,
Greece
management,
repealing
all
ordinances
or
part
ordinances
in
Conflict
there
with
providing
severely
providing
an
effective
date.
Second,.
F
B
A
O
Development
coordination
is
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
at
the
location.
407
North
Manhattan
Avenue
proposal
is
going
from
rs50
residential
single-family
2pd
plan
development.
Residential
single-family
attached
lifelines
have
been
turned
into
the
city
clerk's
office
I'm
here
for
any
questions.
B
Any
questions
for
Mr
Shane
nope,
seeing
none.
L
B
F
F
B
We
have
a
motion
by
councilman
Miranda
seconded
by
councilman
maniskovic,
going
to
move
the
resolution,
roll
call
vote,
okay,.
A
B
L
A
B
O
Thank
you.
So
much
is
that
you're
staying
development
coordination
again
item
number
98
case
ab221-32.
This
is
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
at
the
location,
601
North,
19th
Street.
This
is
for
a
special
use.
Special
use,
two
permit
for
alcoholic
beverage
sales,
large
venue,
consumption
on
premises
only
for
a
beer,
Wine
and
Liquor
side
plans
have
been
turned
into
city
clerk's
office
I'm.
Here
for
any
questions,
any.
L
A
I
Absolutely
not
thank
you
file,
number,
a
b2-21-32
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
approving
a
special
use,
permit
S2
for
alcoholic
beverage
sales,
large
venue,
consumption
on
premises
only
and
making
lawful
the
sale
of
beverages,
regardless
of
alcohol,
alcoholic
content,
beer,
Wine
and
Liquor
on
that
certain
lot
plot
or
tract
of
land
located
at
601,
North,
19th,
Street,
Tampa
Florida
as
more
particularly
described
in
Section
3.
Providing
that
all
ordinances
are
part
of
ordinances
in
Conflict
are
repealed,
repealing
ordinance,
number
1989-306
providing
an
effective
date.
We.
B
B
E
Mr,
chairman
I'm,
sorry
did
you
want
me
to
prepare?
You
go
to
your
office,
I.
E
They
are
okay
and
the
law
requires
you
state,
just
the
nature
of
your
your
conflict.
B
That
is
an
organization
in
which
I'm
a
member.
Thank
you,
sir
Rough
Riders
bully
bully
agenda
item
number
99
file,
number
Rez,
22-57.
O
I
F
D
Rez-22-54
or
to
be
presented
for
security
and
adoption
in
ordinance,
rezoning
property,
legitimacy
of
1505,
East,
Comanche
Avenue
and
the
photo
number
of
150-327.0050
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida.
And
what
would
you
described
as
section
one
from
zoning
District
application,
s-h-r-s,
Seminole,
Heights,
residential
single
family
to
shpd
student
rights
plan
development,
residential
single
family
attacks,
providing
effective
date.
A
O
B
Agenda
item
number
100.:
I,
guess
the
dishes
don't
want
to
be
here.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
public
in
council
chambers
that
would
like
to
speak
to
agenda
item
number
100
file,
number
Rez
22-74
over
close
motion
to
close
by
councilman
Miranda
seconded
by
councilman
Maniscalco,
all
in
favor,
aye
councilman.
F
Miranda,
thank
you.
Mr
chairman
file,
number
100
file,
number
Rec,
22-74
orders
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption;
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
general
vicinity
of
30
10
and
3018
North
50th,
Street
and
folding
number.
I
B
A
B
F
H
H
Be
having
some
technical
difficulties
this
evening,
she
did
reach
out
to
me.
Luckily
she
did
get
her
video
conference
on,
but
she
is
unavailable
to
speak
at
this
time.
B
A
A
B
B
B
B
H
L
E
B
N
Kamari
Pettis
Mackle
from
the
city
attorney's
office
item
number
104
is
before
you
regarding
a
petition
for
review
regarding
de122197
for
the
property
located
at
3003
West
Cypress
Street.
This
petition
was
filed
by
Andrew
Lawrence,
an
aggrieved
party,
a
great
person,
appealing
staff
decision
that
approved
the
request
to
waive
the
design
standards
in
code
sections
27
282.9,
which
is
regarding
single-family
attached
design,
standards
for
ground
floor
entrances
to
dwelling
units
and
code,
section
27-241
regarding
the
West
Tampa
overlay,
District
standards
regarding
finish
floor
height
item
number.
N
104
is
only
regarding
a
petition
for
review
regarding
a
design
exception
application.
There
are
other
applications
pending
before
the
city
related
to
this
property.
However,
this
item
is
the
only
matter
that's
properly
before
city
council,
the
other
pending
application
applications
are
not
before
City
Council
today,
as
such,
City
councils
should
not
take
into
consideration
other
pending
applications.
N
When
you
are
making
your
decision
regarding
this
petition
for
review
earlier,
Council
was
provided
a
copy
of
the
rules
of
procedure
in
order
to
conduct
the
meeting
along
with
sample
motions
and
the
relevant
code
sections
for
purposes
of
today's
hearing.
City
council
applies
a
de
novo
standard
of
review,
which
means
that
your
decision
is
not
limited
to
the
record
that
was
created
by
staff
in
this
case.
N
Instead,
you
can
take
public
testimony,
accept
new
evidence
and
make
a
decision
on
whether
or
not
the
the
appeal
of
decision
should
be
to
approve
the
design
exception
in
in
regards
to
de122-197
Mr
Andy
mikulski
is
online
to
provide
an
overview
of
staff's
decision
regarding
this
design.
Exception
application.
B
B
B
M
B
A
B
M
M
The
two
approved
designed
exceptions
are
as
follows:
the
first
one
is
to
section
27
282.9
point
C
and
the
request
that
was
granted
was
allowed,
36,
ground
floor
entrances
to
face
interior
courts
or
plazas
instead
of
a
street
right
away.
The
second
item
is
to
section
27,
241,
E2
C7,
and
that's
still
allow
garages
at
the
rear
of
the
structures
to
not
be
elevated
to
the
24
inch
finish
floor
requirements
above
adjacent
grade.
M
I
won't
read
all
of
that
right
now,
but
I'll
go
to
the
next
slide
and
explain
why
they
were
approved
and
the
important
text
errors
highlighted
in
bold.
That's
the
the
import
text
to
pay
attention
to
there
so
and
now
I
will
walk
you
through
the
individual
design
exceptions
the
first
one.
First,
one,
the
low
36
ground
floor,
entrances
to
face
interior
courts
or
plazas.
The
code
section
is
in
italics
there
ground
and
the
requirement
is
ground
floor
entrances.
The
front
doors
to
the
dwelling.
M
Edge
shall
face
the
street
right
away,
not
including
alleys,
rather
than
a
side
or
corner
lot
entrances
May
face
interior
courts,
Clauses
or
similar
design
element
with
the
approval
of
an
alternative
design
by
the
zoning
administrator.
So
that
was
what
the
the
first
request
was
and
we
did
Grant
it.
It
was
felt
it
was
a
reasonable
request
and
it
was
met.
The
intent
of
the
met,
the
attempt
of
the
comp
plan
and
the
West
Tampa
overlay
and
I
will
go
through
a
little
bit
more
detail
here.
M
M
This
is
at
Oregon
and
London
and
now
the
site
plan,
the
green
highlighted
areas
are
the
courtyards
that
have
the
facing
that
face.
The
doors
face:
those
interior
Courtyards,
the
pink
orangish
color
there
along
Cypress
is
Street
Frontage
and
those
those
units
do
meet
the
code
and
do
address
the
Cypress
Street
Frontage.
So
we
did
Grant
it.
This
was
a
folks
that
it
does
not
interfere
with
the
rights
of
others.
It
is
not
injurious.
M
So
here's
the
here's
the
from
the
proposed
elevations,
provided
you
could
see
the
the
view
from
Cypress
Street.
They
do
have
the
units
facing
Cypress
and
then
the
view
from
New
Jersey
there
they
have
the
the
courtyards
and
we
this
is
going
back
when
we
first
Matt.
We've
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
back
and
forth
with
the
applicant
on
this
and
when
they
first
proposed
this
plan
I,
you
know
I
requested
that
they
have
doors
at
least
facing
New
Jersey,
so
those
they
did
add
those
doors
facing
New
Jersey
there.
M
Design
exception
two:
this
is
the
the
second
item
here:
they'll
walk
you
through
there's
still
a
loud
garages
at
the
rear
of
structures
to
not
be
elevated,
24
inches
above
the
adjacent
grade
and
the
language.
The
code
language
here,
the
Nintendo
requiring
an
elevated
finish
floor
for
residential
development
is
to
encourage
compatible
design
with
the
historic
housing
Styles,
which
are
character,
characteristics
of
the
West
Tampa
Community.
M
This
should
so
here's
here's
the
proposed
design.
You
can
see
the
front
of
the
elevation,
which
is
the
most
important
part.
That's
the
part
that
people
will
engage
with
coming
and
going
and
as
well
as
the
sections
along
the
courtyard
about
half
that
Frontage
that
people
will
be
walking
by
due
to
make
the
24
inch
finish
floor
elevation
and
you
can
see
on
the
bottom
right
there,
the
garages,
which
are
integrated
into
the
structure
and
at
the
rear.
M
Those
are
at
grade
and
that's
to
you
know,
to
allow
you
to
pull
into
your
garage,
so
we
felt
this
was
a
reasonable
request
and
didn't
have
any
issues,
and
this
is
this
is
an
example.
This
is
a
single
family
house,
but
it
illustrates
what
what
the
design
is
really
going
to
do.
So
you
have
your
24
inches
in
front,
and
then
you
could
see
the
garage
in
the
back
of
this
house,
the
gray
house.
M
It's
not
the,
not
the
yellow
one,
that's
a
separate
house,
but
there's
an
integrated
Garage
in
the
rear
of
this
house
and
really
to
only
the
only
way
you
could
have
this
setup
and
to
make
it
work
is
to
taper
the
grade.
So
you
could
drive
into
the
garage
at
the
rear
and
the
site
plan
again
the
overall
site
plan
here.
M
J
J
Fine,
so
it's
a
pleasure
to
see
you
all
again,
the
last
time
I
was
here.
My
greeting
was
hello,
gentlemen,
and
that
is
now
obsolete.
However,
the
reason
I'm
here
is
not
obsolete
is
the
exact
same
problem
that
I
was
here
talking
about
before
this
used
to
be
a
47
townhome
monstrosity.
Now
it's
a
42
house
monstrosity
instead,
so
can.
J
Oh
I
I
apologize,
my
name
is
Andrew
Lawrence
I'm,
a
3004
West
Nassau
and
the
president
of
the
Midtown
Tampa
Association,
which
encompasses
this
property
so
I'm
here
today
for
really
just
for
three
things.
Your
time
is
valuable,
so
I'm
going
to
speak
very
quickly
and
appeal
to
sanity
so
like
this
is
the
the
type
of
thing
we're
worried
about
the
easement,
the
traffic,
the
flooding
that
that
deeply
concerns
us.
J
R
Good
evening
Amber
Dickerson
urban
planning,
Innovations
5312
North
Suwannee
Avenue.
Let
me
get
set
up
here
because
I'm
kind
of
late
to
the
game
on
the
presentation.
R
R
Okay,
so
the
applicant
requested
two
design
exceptions,
one
for
the
building
orientation
and
one
for
the
Finish
floor,
elevations,
the
second
of
which
appears
to
have
been
properly
processed
through
the
request
and
the
approval.
However,
we
found
some
areas
requiring
additional
attention.
The
design
exception
requested
and
granted
for
the
entry
doors
of
buildings,
h
g
and
facing
a
courtyard
as
staff
described,
and
also
additionally,
there
was
no
request
or
approval
for
the
proposed
roof
pitch.
R
R
Okay,
so
to
kind
of
dig
in
to
the
interior
entrances,
the
provision
States
dwelling
unit
should
be
oriented
to
the
front
of
the
street,
the
applicant
requested
and
was
approved
for
the
Western
buildings,
which
they're
not
on
this
graphic,
to
allow
for
the
side
of
the
building
to
face
New
Jersey.
Instead
of
the
front
of
the
building.
However,
there
was
no
precedent
established
on
adjacent
blocks
to
provide
for
this
alternative.
R
The
green
space
is
highlighted
on
the
graphic,
show
the
entryways
face,
Eastern
property
line
and
two
fences,
a
strip
of
landscaping,
a
sidewalk
which
does
not
appear
to
match
the
definition
of
an
interior,
Court,
Plaza
or
similar
design,
and
we
have
a
report
that
will
also
add
to
the
record
with
those
definitions.
Additionally,
it
appears
the
specific
row
of
buildings
is
encroaching
into
the
newly
created
Tico
easement
dated
August
26
2022,
which
I
will
enter
a
copy
into
the
record.
Also.
R
Next,
let's
discuss
roof
pitch,
a
design
exception
was
not
required
or
approved
for
roof
pitch
the
roof
has
this
is
a
very
interesting
roof,
so
you
see
the
parapet
wall
in
green
and
the
Rooftop
in
blue.
The
roof
has
a
slight
pitch
about
a
2
to
12
pitch.
However,
it's
screened
with
a
parapet
wall
which
gives
it
appearance
on
the
exterior
as
a
flat
roof
flat.
Roofs
with
parapet
walls
allow
applicants
to
exceed
the
building
height
by
an
additional
five
feet
which
the
applicant
is
proposing.
R
If
this
is
considered
in
reverse
a
pitched
Roof,
then
the
building
setback
would
need
to
be
re-evaluated
due
to
the
additional
height.
However,
if
it's
considered
a
flat
roof,
the
applicant
must
request
a
design
exception
and
show
the
established
precedent
for
flat
residential
roofs
on
adjacent
blocks.
R
R
R
We
appreciate
your
time
regarding
this
matter
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
Thank
you.
B
Q
E
Q
Good
afternoon,
Mr
sintro
and
council
members
I'm
David
mechanic,
305
South,
Boulevard,
Tampa
Florida
here
on
behalf
of
the
developer,
who
is
proposing
this
project,
usually
on
the
flip
side
of
these
presentations.
So
this
is
a
little
unusual
for
me.
Q
I
am
going
to
pass
out
a
notebook
which
contains
no
surprises
that
there
there
are
it's
just
simply
a
copy
of
the
record
of
this
application
with
staff
comments
and
public
comments.
We
have
also
included
a
to
the
resumes
of
two
witnesses
which
I
will
be
calling
and
I've
also
included
a
detailed
statement
of
how
the
application
complies
with
the
criteria
that
your
staff
mentioned
earlier.
Q
This
the
criteria
that
you
use
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
design
exception
meets
the
code
requirements,
so
that
detailed
statement
is
in
there,
I'll
be
referring
to
it,
but
I
won't
go
through
every
Point
by
point.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
introduce
Mr
Jacob
Egan,
who
is
the
director
of
development
for
Onyx
at
East,
is
also
holds
a
bachelor's
degree
in
urban
planning
and
we'll
testify
as
an
expert
of
the
sector.
New.
O
Yep
good
afternoon,
I'm
Jacob
vegan
2002
East
4th
Avenue
Tampa,
Florida,
I'm
gonna
just
discuss
briefly
kind
of
the
process
we've
gone
through
to
get
to
the
point.
Today
we
did
hold
a
neighborhood
meeting
back
in
February
of
2022
on
February
16th.
Our
first
Council
hearing
was
on
April
28th.
We
submitted
the
design
exception,
application
on
May
16th,
and
we
are
here
today
on
September
15th,
so
we've
been
working
to
address
issues
or
address
public
concerns
on
this
application.
O
For
about
a
seven
month,
time
period
now
I
am
going
to
be
presenting
or
pointing
to
the
to
the
Elmo
screen
here
so
just
high
level.
Some
of
the
changes
that
have
been
made
from
the
original
application
we've
eliminated,
the
we've
reduced
the
units
Count
by
Five.
We
did
increase
the
setback
from
10
to
25
feet.
We
did
increase
the
building,
Separation
The
increased
backup
with
maintain
the
maximum
Building
height.
It's
seed
parking
and
preserved
all
the
grand
oak
trees
on
the
site.
O
There
was
a
lot
of
conversation
which
I'll
get
to
previous
in
the
previous
slides
or
in
the
future,
slides
here
about
preserving
the
transit
Corridor
that
has
been
identified
by
the
city
of
Tampa
along
Cypress
Street
in
the
in
the
past.
So
from
past
conversation
this
is
a
rendering
of
the
product
Aaron
Barker
will
be
presenting
after
me,
who
is
the
architect
on
the
project.
This
is
showing
that
interior
Courtyard,
these
buildings
will
be
consistent
across
the
project.
So
you
do
see
the
steps
up
into
the
unit,
which
is
the
24
inch
finish
floor.
O
Elevation
requirement
that
we
are
discussing
today,
as
well
as
the
application
for
units
facing
an
interior
Courtyard
versus
a
public
right-of-way
I,
do
want
to
reiterate
that
all
of
the
units
do
front
West,
Cypress
Street.
The
only
condition
we
are
applying
for
that
is
the
side
on
new
North
New
Jersey
Avenue,
that
is
the
rear
of
a
commercial
building.
That's
a
loading
dock
in
a
dumpster
across
the
street
and
a
commercial
building
that
also
fronts
Cyprus
and
not
New,
Jersey
Avenue.
O
Foreign
I
know
there
was
a
comment
about
the
parapet
wall
on
the
front.
I
know,
Aaron
is
going
to
be
addressing
that
further
part
of
the
reason.
For
that
just
very
high
level
is
we've
tried
to
stick
with
the
historic
West
Tampa
architectural
style,
which
is
predominantly
a
Mediterranean,
Revival
or
Spanish
architectural
style
with
that
style
in
other
parts
of
the
city
of
Tampa
you
actually
are
not
allowed
or
you're
not
supposed
to
be
building
pitched
roof
product,
so
hence
the
parapet
wall
facade
on
the
front
of
this
building.
O
Again
here
is
the
side
and
rear,
elevations
or
sorry
sides
in
the
building
section,
which
you
saw
in
the
staff
report.
Just
very
briefly
again.
I
wanted
to
pinpoint
that
we
are
in
between
Midtown
and
then
we
also
have
the
West
Tampa
overlay
District
reaches
towards
the
east
towards
downtown
Tampa.
Everybody
just
says:
proximity
we're
about
a
15-minute
walk
to
Midtown
0.7
miles
away.
O
One
item
I
did
want
to
point
out
here
is
the
Midtown
project
as
it
adjacent
directly
to
the
West
off
of
Cypress
Street.
You
have
The
Foundry
apartment
building
which
we're
going
to
look
at
here
in
a
second
to
the
East,
and
then
you
have
Armory
Gardens
directly
to
the
south
in
Oakford
Park,
directly
to
the
southwest
of
the
site.
O
In
the
way
of
housing,
I'm
not
going
to
spend
too
much
time
on
this
I
just
want
to
show
pricing
and
what
is
going
on
in
the
city
of
Tampa
right
now
in
this
neighborhood,
specifically,
you
can.
Currently,
these
are
updated.
As
of
11
30.
This
morning
there
is
not
a
three
bedroom
unit
for
rent
in
this
area
for
under
5
752
a
month.
The
pricing
we
are
talking
about
on
the
new
home
sales,
we
have
estimated
just
p.
O
I
payments
in
the
West
Tampa
District
of
5186
dollars
a
month
on
a
new
home
that
costs
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
in
the
Oakford
Park
neighborhood.
You
have
right
down
here:
943
000
average
sales
price,
which
is
a
pni
of
five
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars
a
month
and
in
the
Armory
Gardens
neighborhood,
your
average
ASP
is
862
000.
Q
Well,
the
the
comprehensive
plan
is
one
of
the
criteria
that
you
consider
in
terms
of
whether
or
not
this
design
exception
is
appropriate.
The
the
comprehensive
plan
encourages
housing
types,
multiple
different
types
of
housing
types,
so
we
are
simply
addressing
the
supplying
of
additional
housing,
which
the
comprehensive
plan
is
encouraging
to
be
established
on
a
mixed-use.
B
Corridor
I'm
not
doubting
you,
but
I,
see
different
sections
here
of
application
criteria
for
single
family
attached
standards,
West
Tampa
overlay,
District
development,
designs,
alternative
design
exception.
It
doesn't
say
anything
about
pricing
or
anything
like
that.
But
please
go
ahead
respectfully.
Q
Q
O
And
back
to
just
architectural
design
here,
I
did
provide
examples
of
units.
You
can
see
the
addresses
for
the
record
of
the
exact
same
side
yards.
All
of
these
examples.
Actually
I
should
say
all
of
them.
Half
of
them
do
not
even
provide
doors
leading
to
the
side
streets,
so
it
just
pinpoints
the
exact
criteria
we're
discussing
today
that
has
been
built
that
the
address
is
listed
below,
showing
the
lack
of
doors
or
fronting
of
the
core
Street.
O
And
you
saw
the
same
on
the
West
End
Townhomes
project
built
within
West
Tampa
from
City
staff
earlier
and
then
in
regards
to
the
finished
floor,
elevation
being
24
inches
above
grade.
This
is
the
north
south
street
directly
north
of
the
site,
and
you
can
see
just
a
few
examples
here.
This
is
six
homes
where
none
of
these
homes
actually
meet
that
requirement.
These
are
existing
on
site
and
at
that
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Aaron
Barker.
To
completely
conversation.
Q
N
But
we'll
start
with
good
afternoon:
I'm
Aaron
Barker
I'm,
the
design
director
at
sharp
Design
Studio
in
Tampa
and
I'll,
be
addressing
the
street
frontages
of
the
residents
and
their
raised
entry
porches
and
living
area
relative
to
the
finished
grade.
So
on
the
street
Frontage
of
Cyprus
there's
a
little
bit
of
overlap.
There
are
seven
residences
which
do
front
six
of
which,
which
front
on
Cypress.
N
Thank
you.
There
are
at
the
street
Frontage
on
Cypress,
six
of
the
seven
homes
front,
Cypress,
with
24
inch
high,
raised
porches
and
entries
within
the
same
block
of
this
development.
N
There
are
nine
existing
homes
on
Nassau
and
excela,
only
two
of
which
have
raised
porches
consistent
with
the
24
inches
above
grade
along
New
Jersey
North,
New
Jersey,
we've
designed
a
second
front
facade
for
the
homes,
these
homes,
incorporate
glass
doors
and
shed
roofs
on
the
side
as
well,
and
the
elevations
along
North,
New
Jersey,
as
well
as
Cypress,
consists
of
the
same
detailing
so
they're.
Two
fronted
buildings
is
what
we
would
describe
them
to
the
East
and
the
west
of
the
site
are
commercial
buildings
along
North,
New,
Jersey,
west
of
the
site.
N
N
The
site
that
faces
this
is
this
flat
roof
on
the
back
of
that
building
on
North
New
Jersey,
which
faces
our
site
as
well
as
our
second
fronted.
Building
to
the
east
of
the
site
is
a
vacant
property
and
I.
The
drainage,
easement
and
I
believe
that
there's
property
owned
by
Alessi's
there's
a
small
Plaza
with
store
fronts
and
the
large
Alessi's
facility.
The
design
exceptions
has
no
negative
external
impact
on
the
neighborhood,
and
the
proposed
residents
contribute
and
enhanced
to
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
N
Just
a
couple
quick
comments
in
rebuttal
to
the
earlier
presentation:
the
design
exception
was
for
interior
Courtyards.
Plazas
are
similar.
A
plaza
is
an
open
space
in
a
built
up
area.
The
across
the
street,
from
site
from
this
building
on
Cyprus
is
a
parapet.
Building
it's
a
it's
a
small
office,
a
residential
scale.
It
is
a
parapet
with
a
flat
deck
roof
on
the
back
and,
of
course,
on
the
adjacent
site
across
New.
Q
He
has
talked
about
traffic
and
an
easement,
neither
of
which
are
relevant
to
the
design
exception,
but
I
would
point
out
that,
at
least
in
response,
the
easement
issue
has
been
worked
out.
We
have
no
objection
regarding
the
the
easement
Mr
Lawrence,
apparently,
and
his
petition
stated
that
his
objection
of
the
basis
for
his
filing
the
petition
for
review
is
because
our
request
is
inconsistent
with
the
code
sections
that
we
are
seeking
an
exception
from
well.
Q
If,
if
the
basis
of
the
objection
is
that
we
are
inconsistent
with
the
code
section,
then
no
one
could
ever
get
an
approval
for
a
desired
exception.
The
code
clearly
and
intentionally
contemplates
design
exceptions
when
you
have
unusual
circumstances
or
justifications,
I
think
your
staff
and
its
report
very
ably
answered
how
we
addressed
all
of
the
criteria
in
the
code
and
and
that
the
exceptions
were
at
fact
warranted.
Q
For
some
reason,
the
code
section
dealing
with
single
family
attached
was
not
amended,
but
in
my
mind
those
two,
a
town,
home
or
single
family
attached,
you
saw
what
the
product
was
is
is
essentially
a
town
home,
and
yet
the
code
was
changed
for
Town
Homes,
but
not
for
single
family
attached,
but
we
wouldn't
even
be
here
asking
for
the
design
exception
if
we
were
called
the
town
home
under
your
code.
So
with
that
I'll
conclude
our
initial
presentation
and
we
will
probably
offer
comments
on
rebuttal
as
well.
Thank
you
thank.
B
E
F
E
You
Mark,
who
can
I.
F
E
K
B
K
Thank
you.
So
much
I
really
appreciate
everybody.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
oh
yes,
Debbie
Zimmerman,
192,
Corsica,
Street,
Tampa,
Florida
33606.
K
Following
up
on
the
last
comments,
my
whole
presentation
is
changing.
I
am
a
registered
Municipal
Securities
advisor
I'm
also
registered
with
the
SEC
I'm
in
my
19th
or
20
years.
As
a
financial
advisor
for
a
Housing
Finance
Authority
for
a
large
County
in
Florida
I
have
been
in
the
municipal
or
Housing
Industry
in
Florida
since
1993
you
all
probably
know
Carolyn
Wilson.
She
was
my
client
for
over
12
years.
I
was
her.
K
My
provided
expert
testimony
in
her
court
cases,
I've
also
provided
expert
testimony
on
affordable
housing
matters
in
other
counties,
so
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
understood
what
I
knew
about
affordable
housing.
I
work
all
day
every
day
on
this.
It's
my
passion,
it's
my
career
and
that's
why
I'm
in
front
of
you.
It
is
changes
like
this.
That
is
creating
your
affordable
housing
crisis.
You
keep
changing
the
codes
and
building
a
bigger
development
envelope.
You're
creating
different
configurations
and
eight
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
is
not
affordable
for
most
people
in
the
city.
K
Most
people
can't
afford
a
five
thousand
dollar
mortgage.
This
is
being
done
under
an
rm24
zoning
District
when
I
did
Clipper
Cove
on
the
developer
side,
which
is
down
on
inner
band
Lois
176
units
on
7,
7.35
Acres,
that
was
the
first
affordable
deal
down
there
and
an
arm
24
is
traditionally
a
two
or
three
story:
walk-up
garden
apartment
with
stairs
that
rm24
zoning
is
being
basically
ruined.
K
I'm
going
to
use
ruined
I
was
going
to
use
a
different
word,
but
I
can't
say
it
on
the
record:
it's
being
ruined
by
forcing
less
units
with
a
greater
development
envelope
on
a
site
than
would
otherwise
be
there
with
an
rm24
zoning
District.
So
in
many
communities
you're
going
to
see
you
know
very
nice,
you
know
apartments
that
were
there
being
torn
down,
you
might
have
10
Apartments,
they
say:
oh
well,
we'll
tear
it
down,
we'll
have
less
density.
K
Well,
you'll
have
10
apartments
at
around
a
thousand
square
foot,
you
tear
them
down
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
you've
got
four
condos
that
start
at
850
or
in
other
parts
of
the
community,
a
million
two
and
no
one
can
afford
it,
and
we
don't
even
know
if
they're
living
here.
So
these
exceptions
are
having
huge
adverse
implications
on
the
housing
available
availability
to
people
who
can't
afford
something.
800
and
above
now
that
said,
staff
has
done
a
great
job
on
everything
and
I
think
they're
swamped.
This
is
just
a
regurgitation
of
the
PD.
K
They
we
made
all
the
same
comments
in
the
PD.
Their
own
site
plans
have
the
front,
is
not
the
garage
side,
they're
on
site
plans
and
I
took
this
out
of
Mr
mechanic's
handout.
So
I
appreciate
that
he
brought
this
the
front
that
is
facing
the
Eastern
side,
which
is
where
that
storm
water,
sewage
areas
and
this
front
the
the
property
themselves
encroach
on
the
easement
and
if
that's
changed
it
wasn't
in
the
record
yesterday.
K
K
This
does
conflict
with
sections
2741
27
280,
211,
27,
2899,
27,
241,
2760,
27,
190,
129,
6
and
27
129.7.
Now
in
addressing
Mr
mechanic's
comments
about
well,
we
you
know
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
have
any
exceptions.
You
have
to
remember
that
a
design
exception,
one
is
for
minor
design
changes
in
this
case.
You've
got
12
of
the
42
homes
facing
the
side
yard,
which
typically
is
an
inactive
area.
So
let's
say
that
this,
and
this
will
replicate
our
expert
said
this
will
create
the
design
standard.
K
What
if
you
live
next
door
to
this
very
to
these
12
units?
It's
midnight
people
are
coming
out
of
the
house.
What
is
supposed
to
be
a
more
passive
area
now.
Has
people
saying
goodbye
at
midnight
on
Saturday
dogs
running
in
and
out?
This
is
going
to
create
huge
problems
down
the
line
in
your
city.
You
shouldn't:
have
someone
shouldn't
have
12
units
facing
their
side
yard?
That's
that's
not
how
the
code's
written
and
the
code
I've
submitted.
This
many
many
times
has
very
specific
direction
of
what
shall
is
mandatory
for
your
code.
K
Shell
is
all
over.
The
overlay.
District
shall
is
all
over
the
different
parts
of
the
code
that
I
have
referenced.
So
if
Xiao
doesn't
mean
ciao,
then
you
need
to
tell
us
why
2741
says
Michelle
is
mandatory
and
you
can
do
something:
that's
not
mandatory
in
a
mandatory
area,
and
this
is
where
we
are
hugely
frustrated.
We
go
in.
We
work
hard.
We've
got
Ms
Sanchez,
who
worked
very
hard
on
this
overlay
district
and
in
some
she
intentionally
put
in
the
word
shall
and
she
can
speak
to
that.
K
I
want
don't
want
to
speak
to
her
on
her
behalf.
But
if
we
work
on
these
words,
we
get
these
codes
in
and
then
our
words
are
just
ignored.
It's
a
waste
of
everybody's
time
and
the
rule.
We
don't
we
don't
know
what
the
rules
are.
So
there
are
29
of
the
units
that
are
facing
the
side.
I
think
that's
not
minor,
I
think
the
29
percent
that
do
not
face
an
interior
Courtyard
that
that
is
a
huge
problem
regarding
pedestrian
orientation.
This
is
really
interesting.
Let
me
make
sure
I
do
this
right
way.
K
Okay,
the
the
person
here
you
might
notice
it's
a
football
outfit
The
Pedestrian
facade
in
parts
of
the
code
are
supposed
to
have
Windows
right.
Well,
this
is
a
mock-up
of
it's
Tom
Brady,
look
at
the
football
helmet,
so
if
Tom
Brady
was
walking
by
that's
where
he
would
relate
to
this
window,
so
is
that
the
intent
of
the
overlay
District,
where
they
want
basically
a
facade
that
is
pedestrian
friendly
and
then
go
look
at
the
Landscaping
plans?
Are
they
going
to
really
be
required
to
place
these
two
trees
there
or
remember?
K
K
The
biggest
thing
is
that
I'll
be
quick
if
there's
anything
on
that
roof
that
contributes
to
height,
which
roof
the
the
roof,
the
pitch
roof
wood
or
if
there's
separations
between
those
town
homes
that
has
to
be
included
in
the
height
definition,
the
wall
is
excluded,
but
the
other
stuff.
Isn't
we
don't
even
know
what's
up
there,
if
the
public
can't
rely
on
the
words
in
the
code,
we
just
don't
know
where
we
turn
to
I
I
mean
we
show
up
all
the
time.
I
think
this
is
not
staff's
issues.
K
Deaths
overwhelmed-
and
this
is
just
the
PD
in
another
form,
with
none
of
the
issues
corrected
and
thank
you
so
much
for
waiting
for
us
until
this
time
and
I'm
here,
if
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you
very
much.
K
T
E
T
Council
Carlos
Ramirez,
2103,
West,
Carmen,
Street
I
live
a
few
blocks
south
of
Cyprus
in
the
North
Hyde
Park
neighborhood,
but
this
is
my
route
to
Midtown,
to
Dale
Mabry,
to
go
to
Target
Home
Depot,
which
we
all
know
is
multiple
trips.
Each
time
you
want
to
do
something
and
to
wash
her
as
well
so
I
I
travel.
This
often
and
I'll
make
it
very
quick.
The
concern
for
me
is
the
release
of
this
permanent
easement
and
I'll
tie
it
back
to
the
design
exceptions
at
the
end.
T
Here,
here's
a
site
plan
I
just
added
some
colored
boxes.
The
purple
is
the
whole
easement.
The
blue
box
is
just
the
the
section
that
they
want
to
be
released,
so
they
can
do
their
buildings.
This
did
go
through
the
review
and
stormwater
did
find
it
consistent
with
a
condition
to
to
not
build
on
it
until
they
were
able
to
get
all
that
or
any
permits
as
well.
This
is
Mr
Rodriguez's
report
here.
This
is
the
storm
water
memo
and
that
is
very
consistent
with
the
current
ordinance.
T
That's
out
there
today
that
says
no
temporary
or
permanent
easement
for
the
utility,
easement
or
sorry
permanent
structures,
and
also
for
the
drainage
easement
as
well.
I
know
they
mentioned
the
tico
easement.
That
just
was
approved.
That
also
says
the
same
language
that
they
shouldn't
build
anything
permanent
within
the
easement.
T
So
we
all
know
this
area
we've
all
driven
through
here.
We
all
know
it
floods,
a
lot
so
that
that
is
the
main
concern
and
the
design
here
shown
in
red.
You
can
see
that
that
red
is
that
front
front
wall
the
entryway
to
the
building,
and
that
is
encroaching
on
that
easement,
which
is
why
they
want
to
release
that
section
of
it,
but
in
this
picture,
might
look
familiar
to
y'all,
but
I
just
added
some
squiggly
lines.
This
is
the
drainage.
This
is
on
a
normal
rain
event.
T
So
this
is
what
happens
to
that.
Ditch
and
I
don't
have
video,
but
if
you
were
to
watch
the
video
and
I
know
it's
been
circulated
around
so
I'm
sure
you
might
have
seen
it
this
water
flows
pretty
fast
and
it
goes
down
over
here-
is
the
the
site
that
we're
discussing
here's
Alessi's
down
here
and
there's
an
empty
field
right
there.
T
That's
how
much
it
floods
when
it's
a
normal
rain
event,
and
that
is
with
all
that
green
space.
So
as
this
area
starts,
getting
more
developed,
there's
going
to
be
less
permeable
land
and
there's
going
to
be
more
water
going
into
these
stormwater
ditches.
So
in
the
future,
there's
going
to
have
to
be
some
kind
of
improvements.
T
I
also
happen
to
be
a
professional
engineer
licensed
in
Florida,
so
the
method
that
we
go
about
when
we're
doing
some
kind
of
drainage
Improvement
is
we
try
to
make
a
wider,
ditch,
not
deep
but
wider?
Why?
Because
it
makes
the
water
flow
a
little
faster
and
it
gets
it
out
of
the
way
quicker.
So
this
diagram
right
here
shows
where
the
ditch
is
in
in
the
easement.
You
can
see
that
is
way
on
the
east
side.
T
So
if
there
were
to
be
any
kind
of
whitening
or
improvements,
it
would
have
to
be
done
on
the
west
side,
which
is
where
that
release
of
easement
is
so.
The
concern
here
is
why,
if,
if
we
approved,
if
we
approve
this
design
exception,
then
we
are
going
to
be
stuck
with
this.
With
this
small
quarter
to
fix
any
future
drainage
or
any
future
flooding
that
might
happen
or
if
it's
denied,
then
they
can
go
back
and
do
a
new
site
plan
that
doesn't
encroach
and
doesn't
have
to
be
released.
E
K
K
Sanchez
2705
fig
Street
Armory
Gardens
community,
as
I
was
saying
we
expected
to
discuss
the
design
exception
and
nothing
else.
Obviously,
the
developers
came
in
with
their
Razzle
dazzles.
They
usually
do,
and
that
is
the
intention
of
the
overlays
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
is
to
protect
us
from
the
bullies.
The
developers
that
just
push
their
way
through
the
West
Tampa
overlay
was
designed
to
maintain
the
character
of
the
neighborhoods
and
to
keep
our
quality
of
life
in
place.
K
The
creators
of
the
West
Tampa
overlay
work
tirelessly
to
engage
the
communities
through
public
Outreach
sessions
to
further
entwine
the
community.
In
the
long-range
planning
process,
it
was
created
with
thought,
compassion,
computer
Community
involvement
and
the
expertise
of
citysef
and
City
staff.
The
city
ordinance
was
confirmed
by
these
communities
approved
by
city
planners,
who
helped
create
the
document
and
by
you,
this
city
council.
K
K
Please
remember
that
the
revised
ordinance
languages
approved
by
the
city
council
on
February
4th
2021,
this
change
should
have
locked
out
any
design
exception,
conflicting
with
section
27-241,
as
this
development
was
new
in
a
comic
conflicts
with
the
code,
including
but
not
limited,
to,
building
orientation,
roof
pitch
minimum
floor
height,
unprecedented
parapet,
walls
and
height,
the
design
exception
should
be
denied.
The
West
Chamberlain
overlay
is
primary
above
all
zoning
decisions.
It
takes
priority.
There
are
over
2
000
residences,
private
residents
who
take
guidance
under
this
overlay.
K
It
is
our
goal
to
protect
the
community
and
to
keep
the
diversity
both
ethnically
and
economically
sound.
Every
time
you
overturn
the
West,
hamper
overlay
or
any
overlay
within
the
city.
You
are
telling
the
community
that
you
don't
care
about
them
and
you
emphasize
that
it
attempts
to
keep
and
protect.
Our
communities
are
not
important
that
potentially
it
is
just
that
is
just
a
big
charade.
Please
have
and
have
to
understand.
We
have
committed
these
communities
to
protect
protest.
K
This
project,
we
even
hired
land
expert,
help
us
and
solicit
a
professional
engineer
to
help
us
with
this.
We
shouldn't
have
to
do
this.
The
West
Temple,
the
overlays,
all
the
way
I
believe
Tim
should
speak
to
themselves
when
it
comes
to
the
point
that
a
community
has
got
to
pay
somebody
to
come
in
and
help
protect
us.
There
is
something
wrong
we
have
given
you
clear
and
substantial
evidence
that
this
project
should
not
move
forward.
As
currently
designed.
Please
deny
this
petitioner.
Thank
you.
A
A
There
seems
to
be
a
new
trend
in
development.
It
seems
that
this
new
thing
is
coming
around
and
I
keep
seeing
it
over
and
over
again.
Recently,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
an
old
Trend,
that's
come
back
or
what?
But
it's
like.
Let's
throw
the
cake
at
the
wall
and
see
what
actually
sticks
so
we're
seeing
things
come
as
rezonings
or
PDS,
and
then
they
come
back,
it's
design
exceptions
or
they
come
back
as
a
su1,
and
it's
just
enough
to
make
your
head
pop
off,
and
so
you
know
I
really.
A
It
makes
me
wonder
about
the
authenticity
of
people
who
are
doing
that
on
a
regular
basis
and
I'm,
seeing
it
more
and
more
often
we
see
these
projects
that
just
kind
of
disappear
or
Fade
Away
into
that
good
night.
But
I'd
like
to
point
out
a
couple
things
that
that
this
developer
has
asked
for
this.
He
asked
for
the
rezoning
and
now
here
we
are
with
the
de.
A
Please
do
not
take
the
developers
reduction
from
47
to
42
units
as
a
gift
to
the
neighborhood,
because
in
the
in
the
res
they
were
asking
for
a
release
of
easement
that
was
6
300
square
feet,
so
that
was
all
the
room
for
those
five
extra
units
that
they
were
asking
for.
This
is
not
a
gift.
I
would
like
to
also
point
out
that
at
85,
850,
000
dollars,
generals
cannot
afford
that
most
doctors
who
are
not
working
in
hospitals
can
afford
them.
A
You
have
to
make
at
least
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
afford
that.
We
don't
know
that's
three
times
our
city
council,
salary,
I
I
just
need
you
to
understand
that
there
were
no
gifts
given
on
this.
This
developer
hasn't
backed
away
from
anything
that
they
brought
to
the
table
to
start
with,
except
for
their
overwhelming
expectation
that
people
should
give
them
gifts
for
building
things
that
are
way
too
out
of
anybody's
price
range.
A
B
Q
I,
don't
think
I'll
need
it,
but
thank
you,
council
members,
for
the
record
David
mechanic.
Let
me
address
Ms
poyners
comments.
First,
that's
their
most
fresh
in
my
mind.
We
never
once
said
that
we
were
given
the
neighborhood
a
gift
and
it's
like
they're
sort
of
setting
up
a
straw
man
to
knock
him
down.
We
never
said
that.
We
never
said
the
units
were
going
to
be
800
000,
but
that's
not
really
relevant
to
this
application.
Q
Q
They
they're
they're
talking
about
our
Razzle
Dazzle
but
they're,
the
ones
who
are
raising
issues
that
are
not
part
of
the
design
exception.
Ms
honerman
talks
about
about
six
different
code
sections
that
were
not
seeking
an
exception
from.
She
is
saying
that
she's
objecting
to
trees
and
the
windows
or
our
Landscaping
in
the
windows
we're
not
asking
for
an
exception
to
the
facade
requirements,
window,
treatment
or
Landscaping,
so
they're
attacking
things
that
we're
not
asking
for
it's
it.
Q
I
didn't
even
bring
any
information
with
me
today
because
it
wasn't
relevant
to
this
proceeding
and
I
would
simply
ask
Council
to
confine
itself
to
the
points
and
I
hope
your
legal
department
will
will
clarify
what
exactly
is
relevant
to
your
consideration
and
it's
those
five
criteria
that
Andy
so
eloquently
addressed
in
his
presentation.
He
said
that
our
request
was
reasonable,
was
not
excessive
and
met
the
intent
of
the
West
Shore
overlay.
He's
your
professional
staff,
Urban,
Design
staff
and
I
believe
you
should
Accord
him
the
respect
that
he
deserves
in
developing
this.
Q
E
Mr,
chairman
and
members
of
council,
just
a
reminder,
if
you
do
have
a
copy
of
the
staff
report
that
are
have,
that
does
have
the
specific
exceptions
that
are
requested
and
you
also
have
the
criteria.
That's
on
page
two
of
the
staff
report
and
also
in
the
packet
that
was
distributed
at
the
start
of
the
of
the
hearing
and
I'd.
Ask
that
you,
when
making
reference
to
your
decisions,
you
apply
the
criteria
as
it
was
set
forth.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
that
before
the
hearing
closes,
I'm
sorry.
N
B
J
Oh
okay,
so
I
I,
obviously,
in
deferring
now
to
your
wisdom
and
expertise,
we
have
used
up
a
lot
of
your
time
today
on
this
issue
and
I
want
to
be
respectful
of
that.
So
that
is
my
entire
rebuttal.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
your
time
today.
R
Good
evening,
so
we
know,
staff
is
busy
and
things
can
potentially
be
missed.
We're
we're
not
stating
whether
anything,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
is
right
or
wrong.
We're
just
stating
that
there
are
certain
exceptions
that
were
not
requested
like
for
the
roof
pitch,
that's
one
in
particular,
so
yeah,
so
the
applications,
the
design
exception,
one
applications
for
minor
design
changes.
So
really
we
feel
that
these
are
above
and
beyond
what
constitutes
minor
and
again
in
my
presentation,
I
also
pointed
out
that
we
disagree
about
the
definition
of
a
courtyard.
B
E
L
You,
yes,
sir,
so
I
moved
to
overturn
staff's
approval
of
design
exception,
application
de1-22-197
for
the
property
located
at
3003
West
Cypress
Street,
because
the
petitioner
has
demonstrated
that
the
application
is
inconsistent
with
the
applicable
City
of
Tampa
code,
section
set
forth
herein
and
27-60
27-241,
e2c.7
and
27-282.9
C,
and
that
is
found
in
the
staff
report
for
the
design
exception,
the
code
sections
that
I've
mentioned,
and
that
would
be
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
I'll.
B
E
B
B
H
Proceed
yes,
sir.
First
I
motion
to
the
the
Forest
Hills
Community
Center
in
park
is
having
certain
improvements
that
are
being
done
and
Charlie
Shirley
reisler
work
with
the
city
of
Tampa
in
that
park.
For
many
many
years
recently,
retired
and
I
would
motion
to
have
city
council
requests
to
have
a
section
of
those
Park
improvements
at
the
discretion
of
Administration
and
staff
named
after
Shirley,
and
did
that
come
back
to
us.
B
Second,
there's
a
motion
made
by
councilman
Vieira
singing
by
councilman
Maniscalco,
all
in
favor.
Excuse
me:
is
there
any
opposed.
H
Thank
you,
sir,
and
the
next
I
motion.
Yesterday
I
went
to
a
graduation
program
that
included
our
assistant
aide
here.
Connor
darken,
which
is
a
partnership
between
McDonald's
training
center
and
Laurie
Park
Zoo,
would
seeks
to
take
individuals
with
special
needs.
Some
with
intellectual
disabilities,
autism
different
types
of
issues
and
give
them
internship
programs
to
you,
know,
train
them.
Etc
get
them
get
them
ready
for
work,
so
to
speak.
H
I
would
love
to
see
something
like
that
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
where
we
have
10
departments
each
have
one
intern
with
special
needs,
they're,
hopefully
being
paid
15
an
hour.
If
you
hire
10
individuals
15
hours
a
week,
15
that
doesn't
cost
more
than
ninety
or
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
City
of
Tampa
and
so
I'm,
not
making
a
I
guess
I
can't
make
any
emotions
on
the
budget.
But
I
am
speaking
to
that
in
terms
of
what
I
will
be
bringing
up
on
I
guess.
H
It
is
Tuesday
evening
for
consideration
in
the
budget.
So
I
don't
anticipate
that
costing
a
lot
Etc,
but
Mr
Shelby
am
I
allowed
to
make
a
motion
for
supporting
that
for
Tuesday
and
the
budget,
or
should
I
wait
for
Tuesday.
E
H
Yes,
sir,
and
then
third,
if
I
may
next
week,
I
guess
we
have
the
Charter
review.
Workshop
I
have
a
disability,
a
housing,
Workshop
item
on
there
I'm
moving
to
take
that
off
and
move
that
to
February
of
2023.,
just
because
we
have
so
many
items
on
there
and
I
want
it
to
get
good
consideration.
Second,.
H
On
that
day,
yesterday
I
met
with
some
of
our
friends
that
all
of
us
support
at
rise
up
for
peace
and
them,
and
some
Community
Partners
are
looking
to
do
a
turkey
Drive
that
they're
looking
for
Community
Partners
to
assist
in
helping
and
I
and
I'm
asking
if
they
can
come
on
I
guess
it's
next
week,
no
more
than
five
minutes
to
very
briefly
speak
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting
to
make
their
appeal
to
the
public
to
be
placed
on
the
agenda
again.
It
would
take
five
minutes.
Etc
is.
K
F
H
Aye
and
then
lastly,
if
I
may
and
I
hope,
Council
will
indulge
me.
I
have
not
spoken
a
great
deal
today
and
it's
5
30.
I
want
to
speak
just
for
two
minutes.
If
I
may
on
the
issue
that
Mr
Whitmore
I
think
his
name
is
the
nice
gentleman
in
the
votes.
I
brought
up
about
the
issue
of
the
migrants.
H
I
want
to
make
a
motion
if
I
may
to
have
a
Tampa
City
Council
letter
sent
to
Tallahassee
the
State
of
Florida
Governor
DeSantis
on
the
Move
by
the
administration
to
it
appears
with
the
information
that
we
have
ship
about.
It
appears
40
or
50
individuals,
many
of
whom
are
from
Venezuela
fleeing
a
Marxist,
Communist
Regime
in
Venezuela
and
then
ship
them
over
in
in
what
I
think
is
a
grossly
political
move
to
troll,
to
troll
people
to
make
his
base
angrier
and
to
move
them
to
Massachusetts.
H
To
do
a
letter
opposing
that
I
I
hear
that
the
governor
often
talks
a
about
the
the
armor
of
God,
he
always
says,
puts
on
the
armor
of
God
put
on
the
armor
of
God.
Well,
you
know:
I
was
raised
in
church.
I
probably
went
to
church
growing
up
as
a
kid
three
or
four
times
a
week,
and
everything
of
this
move
is
contrary
to
to
what
I
learned
in
church
it
really
when
I
read
about
it.
It
really
made
me
angry
for
many
many
many
reasons.
H
As
you
all
know,
my
my
family
left
Cuba
in
1960
as
political
refugees
fleeing
Castro
communism,
Marxism
Etc,
and
for
me
this
is
not
who
we
are
as
Florida
we're
getting
further
and
further
away
from
a
Florida
that
respects
not
only
Human
Rights,
intolerance
and
decency,
but
I
think
our
Legacy
as
a
state
that
has
many
refugees
fleeing
communism
and
Marxism
Etc
from
Latin
America
as
the
city
of
Tampa.
We
welcome
refugees
from
places
like
Syria,
Afghanistan,
Ukraine,
Cuba,
Venezuela
et
cetera,
Etc,
and
so
this
goes
against
our
values.
H
H
E
B
L
I
I
have
heard
from
me
about
the
parking
issue
and
the
current
law
is
written
requires
parking
lot,
operators
to
staff
those
lots
with
attendance.
This
law
is
not
being
followed,
and
the
result
is
that
taxpayer
resources
are
being
allocated
in
the
form
of
Tampa
police
officers
being
pulled
from
other
locations
to
respond
to
Crime
happening
in
these
unmonitored
parking
lots.
I
The
status
quo
is
a
threat
to
Public
Safety
and
is
forcing
Tampa
residents
to
put
the
bill
for
services
that
are
required
by
city
ordinance
to
be
provided
by
the
private
parking
lot
operators.
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
have
appropriate
City
staff
to
review
and
return
with
any
recommended
changes
to
improve
the
Safety
and
Security
of
parking
lots
in
Ebor,
as
required
under
Section
27-178,
and
to
specifically
review
section
27-178,
subsection
C
concerning
Personnel
requirements
and
explain
its
enforcement
second.
I
And
on
the
bottom
of
all
of
your
paperwork
on
your
desk
today
with
something
I
dropped
off,
initially
a
resolution
for
the
all
for
supporting
a
resolution
expressing
strong
support
for
all
for
transportation
plan
on
the
November
8
2022
ballot,
affirming
the
significant
need
for
investment
in
transportation
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
for
all
Tampa
residents,
recognizing
the
tremendous
growth
in
the
city
of
Tampa
and
Hillsborough
County
that
will
increase
traffic
congestion,
affirming
the
need
to
reduce
congestion,
improve
roads
and
bus
service,
increase
Transportation
options
and
improve
safety
that
the
all
Transportation
plan
will
address,
urging
All
City
of
Tampa
voters
to
support
the
plan
providing
for
an
effective
date.
I
I
I
just
want
to
read
the
be
it
resolve
so
that
everyone
understands
what
we're
agreeing
to
section,
one,
that
the
city
council
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
strongly
supports
the
all
for
transportation
plan
and
encourages
all
voters
to
cast
ballots
in
favor
of
the
plan
on
November
8
2022,
section
2,
that
all
residents
of
the
city
of
Tampa
would
benefit
from
the
all
for
transportation
plan
and
the
City
of
Tampa
is
prepared
to
carry
out
the
plan
as
it
is
defined
on
the
ballot
and
section
3.
E
E
D
Some
of
you
might
have
heard
my
my
good
dear
friend,
Republican
friend,
Mr
Eddie,
Adams
Jr,
passed
away.
Suddenly
great
great
friend,
we
didn't
talk
politics,
we
didn't
talk
politics,
we
always
talked
about
the
crew.
D
He
was
so
fond
of
he's
the
captain
I'm
the
first
mate
on
the
ship
and
I.
Tell
you
when
his
wife
called
me
that
morning
I
was
just
in
all
but
I
want
to
say
he
was
a
great
actress
for
his
community
for
small
businesses,
Republican
or
not.
He
he
didn't
pick
size.
He
just
looked
at
what
the
facts
were
and
he
gave
you
what
the
facts
were
and
I
can
appreciate
that
with
him.
So
it
was
chairman
council
members.
F
You
know
it's
funny
what
I
just
talked
to
someone
in
that
department
just
the
other
day
we
passed
here
not
today
or
yesterday,
but
we
passed
many
houses
or
many
pieces
of
land
where
they
had
to
have
swales
on
each
side
and
you
you
sort
of
kept
it.
However,
that
owner
I
mean
that
five
years
after
and
the
husband
or
the
wife
or
whatever
says
I
want
to
fill
them
in
so
I
can
plant
flowers
and
they
do
they
don't
know
what
happened
before
it's
not
in
the
when
you
sell
the
property.
F
Told
the
department
yesterday
and
I'm
not
going
to
tell
you
who
I
talked
to,
but
I
talked
to
him
at
length
about
all
that,
and
we
have
a
problem,
there's
other
areas
that
we
we
don't
check
on.
What's
Happening,
that's
why
I'm
very
I
said
you
I
trust,
but
verify
this
be
Barbra
Streisand
as
I
call
it
about
saying
well
related.
B
Well
again,
this
this
is
for
a
discussion
and
I
have
received
many
phone
calls
from
some
people
in
in
West
Tampa,
where,
because
drainage
ditches
on
either
side
of
them
have
stopped
the
flow
of
water
and
this
water
is
coming
up
into
their
property
and
up
to
their
houses.
So
I
I
just
want
to
have
a
discussion
and
again
I'm,
not
blaming
the
current
property
owners.
Will
they
be
filled
in?
But
what
can
we
do
as
you
rectify
the
situation?
If.