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D
You
know
good
afternoon
councilman.
I
appreciate
the
time
to
take
the
talk
about
20
and
21,
which
is
the
romeo
project.
So
today,
can
we
bring
up
the
presentation?
Please
all
right
so
just
wanted
to
open
with
this
line,
to
give
everybody
kind
of
an
awareness
of
the
scale
this
project,
as
well
as
where
it
is
in
relation
to
west
tampa
and
how
close
it
is
to
downtown
and
it's
directly
adjacent
to
the
mlk
center
in
the
lower
corner.
D
D
We
received
six
responses
and
we
interviewed
the
top
three
and
out
of
that
selection
process.
Related
urban
development
group
was
selected.
We
began
negotiations
in
the
spring
of
21
and
we
just
completed
those
in
this
first
portion.
So
today
we're
going
to
have
consideration
of
two
different
agreements:
a
land
disposition
agreement
and
a
community
benefits
agreement.
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D
I'll
start
with
the
land
disposition
agreement,
the
proposal
offered
a
99-year
ground
lease
for
the
majority
of
the
property
and
has
a
town
homes
portion
of
it.
That
has
to
be
conveyed
fee
simple,
the
project's
going
to
be
done
in
five
phases
take
about
six
years
to
get
completed
and
we
have
360
days
to
complete
the
next
three
items
before
we
can
continue
and
those
three
items
are:
zoning
of
the
property,
negotiation
of
a
master
infrastructure
and
riverwalk
improvements
create
and
grant.
D
D
D
So
those
are
the
overview
of
the
the
two
documents
are
before
you
for
items
20
and
21..
I
do
want
to
say
that
the
we've
we
met
recently
with
the
west
tampa
cac
as
recent
as
last
week
on
the
12th.
They
asked
for
some
last
minute
changes
which
were
all
positive
and
helpful,
and
the
developer
in
the
city
agreed
to
those.
Some
of
those
are
characterized
in
this
next.
D
E
D
D
So
if
you
can
see
up
here,
the
west
river
development
is
just
to
the
south
they
border
to
spruce
on
the
south.
The
schools
are
just
on
the
north,
the
baseball
fields
that
are
the
six
acres
portion
that
are
just
north
of
just
elementary
and
then
the
old
water
site.
That's
there
was
all
utilities
that
that
is
the
other
12.,
but.
E
E
All
right
and
my
my
final
question
too,
there's
no
deal
with
the
the
school
district.
We're
not
that's,
not
a
part
of
our
ideas,
all
right.
Secondly,
you
know
when
I
put
that
community
business
agreement
for
cras
on
the
record
is
the
west
tampa
cac.
That
community
is
satisfied
with
what
they
want
to
see
a
part
of
this
project
for
the
cra.
D
E
E
G
Can
I
just
ask
a
quick
question
before
you
get
to
that?
I
asked
you
this
yesterday
and
maybe
it's
a
question
for
you
and
legal.
You
answered
a
little
bit
yesterday,
but
also
just
for
the
public's
sake.
If
you
all
could
answer
this,
as
I
remember
the
the
mayor
had
a
press
conference
like
march
17th
a
year
ago,
so
a
little
over
a
year
ago
to
announce
the
awarding
of
this
rfp,
but
in
a
year
and
two
weeks
or
year
and
a
month.
H
Nicole
travis,
the
constant
director
administrative
development
and
economic
opportunity,
the
answer
that
to
that
councilman
carlson
is
no.
When
we
do
the
issuance
of
the
rfp,
we
draft
the
rfp
and
the
way
the
process
is
laid
out,
an
administrative
decision
is
made
to
based
on
whatever
criteria
is
in
the
rfp,
whatever
ranking,
whether
it's
professionals
and
you
have
a
professional
staff
that
reviews
that
ranks
it
and
then
issues
a
notice
of
intent
to
award.
H
Once
we
issue
that
notice
of
intent
to
award,
we
enter
into
negotiation
with
that
top
ranked
firm
and
that's
what
we
did
with
the
related
group
to
come
up
with
a
development
agreement
or
a
disposition
agreement.
That's
before
you
today.
So
this
there's
no
action
for
the
board.
This
is
actually
your
part
in
the
process.
The
previous
part
of
the
process
is
on
the
administrative
side.
This
is
now
where
this
body
gets
to
approve
or
consider
the
proposal.
G
Thank
you
yeah.
It
just
seems
that
maybe
we
can
talk
about
this,
a
new
business
that
that
there
should
be
some
interim
step.
I
there
was
a
lot
of
controversy
over
the
way.
G
This
was
awarded
a
lot
lots
of
stories
in
the
times
and
other
places
editorial,
and
it
seems
like
you
know,
a
lot
of
work
has
been
done
by
a
lot
of
great
people
in
the
last
year,
but
it
it
seems
like
it
would
have
been
a
good
idea
to
get
some
kind
of
interim
approval
from
city
council
before
we
got
to
this
point
and
if
the,
if
the
laws
don't
require
it,
maybe
we
can
talk
about
whether
we
should
do
it
or
not,
but
it
from
a
public
point
of
view.
G
E
You
know
I
I
I
think
a
lot
ever
had
been
put
into
the
project
and
I
can
see
that,
but
I
do
I
said
this
many
years
ago
in
2019
2020,
I
talked
about
the
rfp
process
and
that's
surprising,
I
think
council
richard
needs
to
look
at
maybe
not
today,
but
I
think
in
the
future.
It's
called
right,
that's
something!
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
overall
council
being
part
of
that
rfp
process.
Thank
you.
Jim
thank.
H
D
Thank
you,
nicole,
again
rob
rosner
director
opportunity.
The
substitute
documents
include
those
those
items
which
include
including
additional
stakeholders
in
the
cva
process.
D
Revised
income
restrictions
for
the
townhomes
which
were
originally
offered
is
not
affordable
they,
but
they
asked
that
if
they
could
be
affordable.
So
one
of
the
items
there
is
to
increase
that
to
199
percent
of
the
ami
to
allow
that
different
differentiation
of
the
town
homes
and
then
the
staff
and
the
developers
agreed
to
these,
and
so
we
brought
those
for
and
that
was
sent
to
you
earlier
and
those
revised
documents
include
a
new
lda,
a
new
cba
and
the
corresponding
resolutions
that
go
along
with
it.
D
C
E
E
D
Okay,
during
the
rfp
process,
we
had
set
a
certain
goals
for
certain
percentages
of
ami
for
the
different
affordabilities,
so
we
had
a
50
ami
and
80
ami
140
ami
in
these
different
categories,
so
the
townhomes
were
were
not
required
to
be
that
they
offered
that
as
an
extra
that
they
improved
their
proposal
during
the
negotiation
process.
The
west
tampa
folks
asked
well,
if
there's
going
to
be
this
15-year
affordability,
can
it
be
for
a
different
range
instead
of
the
normal
140?
D
And
so
because,
since
that
wasn't
a
requirement-
and
it
was
an
extra-
I
thought
that
was
a
good
idea,
so
the
199
would
help
cover
those
people
that
might
be
a
pair
of
teachers.
That
would
you
know,
are
living
or
working
together
and
might
miss
the
140
ami.
So
they
wanted
to
have
that
range
just
to
give
that
to
the
neighbors
and
the
people
to
buy
in
west
hampton
councilman
carlson.
G
Sorry
one
more
question:
while
we
have
you
up
rob
this
morning,
I
talked
about
the
total
value
of
this
contract
and
I
just
go.
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
it
in
front
of
me,
but
what
I
remember
is:
there's
like
a
two
and
a
half
million
dollar
payment
and
then,
after
some
criteria's
hidden
like
another
two
and
a
half
million,
and
then
it's
15
percent
of
rent-
something
like
that.
G
But
could
you
all
must
have
done
some
projections
over
the
99
years
of
of
what
you
think
the
revenues
are
going
to
be
to
the
city?
What
is
I
mean?
Those
numbers
can
change
because
we
don't
know
what
their
rental
rates
and
everything
are
going
to
be.
But
what's
your
what's
the
estimated
revenues
to
the
city
by
the
way
I
like
the
idea
of
a
99-year
lease
instead
of
selling
it
outright.
G
I
think
that's
a
great
idea-
and
I
know
carol-
had
pushed
for
it,
but
is
this
a
100
million
dollar
project
for
this
from
the
city
revenue,
point
of
view
or
10
million?
What
any
any
ballpark
idea
where
we
are
so
the.
D
Initial,
you
want
to
go
ahead.
Okay,
the
initial
offer
was
2500
a
unit.
We
have
954
units,
that's
where
2.38
million
was
offered
for
this
and
that
would
come
in
as
each
of
the
units
come
on.
They
would
come
up
as
a
capitalized
lease
payment,
so
they
pay
that
up
front.
That's.
We
would
get
that
over
the
course
of
the
construction
of
the
project,
then,
after
that
those
phases
they
would
have
a
net
cash
flow
and
we
would
get
12
and
a
half
percent
of
that
so
very
similar
to
like
percentage
rent
for
a
restaurant.
D
H
Over
30
years,
or
something
so
councilman
carlson
to
answer
your
question,
we
did
try
to
figure
out
what
that
projection
is,
but
there's
really
no
way
for
us
to
know
what
that
net
cash
flow
would
be,
and
so
that's
why
you
have
in
the
memo
that
was
sent.
You
have
a
write-up
from
the
budget
office
doing
trying
to
figure
out
what
that
cash
value
would
be,
and
there's
really
no
way
for
us
to
predict
what
that
dollar
amount
would
be.
H
We
need,
we
don't
know
vacancy
rates,
we
don't
know
the
extent
of
what
the
market
would
be
at
that
time.
We
don't
know
what
loans
financing.
We
can't
estimate
what
that
net
cash
flow
value
would
be
to
be
able
to
attach
the
value
to
that.
So
in
our
memo,
you'll
see
that
there
is
a
there's.
There
is
something
stated
from
reverend
from
the
budget
revenue
and
finance
office
to
address
that,
but
there's
no
number
to
that.
Yet.
H
G
Just
but
just
we
just
I'm
not
trying
to
be
difficult,
but
you
know
we
have
fiduciary
responsibility,
taxpayers
and
there's
a
99
year
lease
and
if
we
sold
the
property
out
right,
we
would
know
what
the
number
is,
and
I
understand
that
it's
variable.
But
usually
you
have
like
best
case
worst
case.
You
know
some
economist,
projecting
it
and
you
wouldn't
hold
anybody
to
that.
But
you'd
have
some
general
idea
what
it
would
end
up
being.
A
The
only
thing
I
would
add-
I
I
don't-
I
can't
provide
you
any
more
definitive
information,
councilman
carlson,
but
I
can
tell
you
in
connection
with
the
proposals
that
the
city
received
the
three
finalists.
This
was
the
only
proposal
where
there
was
an
offer
to
actually
pay
the
city
for
the
property
or
provide
a
lease
payment,
and
also
this
is
the
only
proposal
that
came
forward
where
they
agreed
not
to
seek
financial
assistance
from
the
cra
for
infrastructure
improvements,
so
that
that
that
weighed
into
the
decision
making.
G
H
The
budget
department
attempted
to
do
a
projection
based
on
the
information
that
we
have.
The
information
that
we
have
is
all
speculation.
It's
based
on
a
number
of
variables
that
we
don't
have
at
this
time.
However,
in
the
in
the
rfp
that
is
recorded
with
this
project,
you'll
notice
that
the
respondent
related
group
has
estimated
over
the
life
of
the
project
about
154
million
dollar
investment
in
the
project.
H
C
Mr
o'hara,
you
you're
on.
C
Thank
you,
sir
good
afternoon,
council
dennis
roher
chief
financial
officer.
I
was
just
going
to
reiterate
the
comments
that
mrs
travis
that
there's
just
too
many
variables
over
a
99-year
period.
You
don't
have
the
expertise
to
give
you
and
that's
why
we.
D
With
that
I'd
like
to
introduce
albert
milo
who's,
the
president
of
related
urban
development
group,
to
talk
about
the
project
and
the
cba
process
that
they
went
through
as
a
group
albert,
would
you
like
to
come
up
and
speak?
F
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chair
council,
albert
milo,
I'm
the
president
of
related
urban.
We
are
the
affordable
and
workforce
housing
division
of
the
related
group.
F
What
used
to
be
the
old
boulevard
homes,
just
a
few
blocks
to
the
south
of
the
rome
yards
development
here
today
and
if
you've,
if
you've,
had
an
opportunity
to
see
that
area
and
you
know
kind
of
what
we've
been
able
to
to
accomplish
to
date,
what
used
to
be
800
units
of
public
housing
that
was
built
in
the
1930s
is
now
fully
transformed
into
we've
completed
four
or
of
the
buildings
like
tampa
housing
completed
a
fifth
building,
we're
about
to
finish
our
our
sixth
building,
including
the
renovations
of
mayor,
bethune
and
all
of
the
boulevard
west
river
boulevard
properties.
F
We
just
recently,
even
in
this
environment
of
you,
know,
escalating
construction
costs
and
and
rates
that
we
keep
hearing
about.
We
just
closed
on
the
next
190
some
odd
units
on
the
eastern
block,
so
we
continue
to
build
out
that
project.
That
is
a
project
that,
when,
when
we
started
our
partnership
with
tampa
housing,
again
was
800
units
of
predominantly
and
strictly
all
public
housing
all
low
income.
F
Now,
as
we
build
through
we're
building
a
mixed
income
community,
in
addition
to
market
rate,
there's
a
market
rate
component,
that's
getting
ready
to
start
in
that
in
that
area,
there's
a
home
ownership
component,
that's
part
of
west
river,
there's
going
to
be
a
big
national
grocery
store,
that's
coming
to
the
corner
of
main
street
and
and
and
north
boulevard
there.
So
you
know
we're
we're
big
promoters
of
of
mixed
income.
F
I
heard
a
lot
of
of
of
talk
earlier
about.
You
know
the
concerns
of
rising
rents
and
you
know
what
that
means
for
for
families.
I
heard
a
little
bit
about
you
know
touching
on
on
on
jobs
and
and
what
opportunities
there
might
be
for
folks
coming
out
of
the
criminal
justice
system.
F
So
I
will
tell
you
that
a
couple
of
things
of
our
proposal-
I
think
mr
massey
said
it
right-
that
that
out
of
the
proposals
that
you
receive,
everyone
was
saying
we're
not
willing
to
have
any
type
of
share
of
revenues
with
the
city
actually,
quite
the
contrary,
they
were
all
asking
for
resources
from
the
city.
F
Unlike
ours,
you
know
we
specialize
in
public-private
partnerships,
we've
done
in
excess
of
a
billion
and
a
half
dollars
over
the
last
five
six
years.
We
have
these
type
of
partnerships
throughout
the
state
and
one
of
the
big
things
that
that
we
do
is.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
our
public
partner
shares
in
the
upside
of
our
developments
and,
and
we
do
have
a
revenue
share
projection
in
it.
F
That's
why
we
we
proffered
that
so
in
addition
to
a
capitalized
lease
payment
we
get
which
gets
paid
up
front
at
the
financial
closing
of
every
deal.
We
we
profit
the
12
and
a
half
cash
flow
participation.
F
The
estimate
is
over
120
million
dollars
over
the
build
out
of
the
of
the
of
the
phases
and
over
the
build
out
of
the
project.
One
of
the
reasons
why,
to
your
point
of
councilman
carlson,
why
we
proffer
a
land
lease
is
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that,
as
part
of
these
public-private
partnerships,
we,
the
asset,
remains
a
public
asset.
So
that's
why?
F
Rather
than
proposing
a
fee,
simple
transaction
to
say,
hey,
we
give
you
a
check
at
closing
and
the
city
parts
we
we
structure
these
deals
as
long
term
leases
and
provide
that
revenue
stream
to
our
public
partners.
A
couple
of
important
points
that
I
think
that
that
you
heard
a
little
bit
about
them
before
with
some
of
our
team
members
is
the
fact
that
we
we
we
focus
heavily
on
community
engagement.
We
understand
that
we
do
have
a
lot
of
expertise.
F
We
do
have
a
lot
of
financial
capacity.
We
have
you
know
the
best
design
professionals
always
working
with
us.
However,
we
understand
that
we
we
can't
just
come
and
and
and
and
impose
our
will
in
these
communities.
It's
it's
got
to
be
something
that
we
do
on
a
collaborative
basis.
That's
why
the
rfp
has
been
over
a
year.
So
it
hasn't
come
to
this
council
before.
Why?
F
The
question
was
well
how
about,
if
you
have
two
teachers
right,
they
would
probably
they're
going
to
exceed
that
140
percent
of
ami
levels.
So
how
do
we
address
that?
And
that's
why
you
saw
that
one
of
those
changes
as
it
relates
to
the
home
ownership
component,
so
we
have
a
mix
of
affordability
in
our
in
our
proposal.
We're
proposing
to
finance
these
as
80
20
tax
exempt
bond
transactions.
F
That's
funding
that's
readily
available.
As
of
right,
we
will
be
applying
to
the
hillsborough
county
hfa.
We
finance
many
of
those
deals
already
at
west
river,
like
that.
So,
unlike
some
of
the
other
affordable
housing
programs
that
are
strictly
lottery
based,
our
proposal
is
not
based
on
that.
You
know,
that's
why
we
were
able
to
offer
a
a
a
project
that
can
move
forward.
Obviously,
there's
some
steps
that
still
need
to
happen,
and
zoning
and
and
the
infrastructure
agreement
and
those
things
that
will
eventually
come
back
to
this
council.
F
But
it's
not
contingent
upon
some
type
of
lottery
based
funding
on
that
side
and
again
it's
a
mixed
income
approach.
Those
tax
exempt
bonds
require
20
of
the
project
to
be
set
aside
for
50
percent
of
air
median
income.
So
all
phases
will
have
a
you
know.
50
of
ami,
which
you
know
is
categorized
as
very
low
income.
We
have
another
10
of
the
project.
That's
going
to
be
at
80
percent
of
our
median
income,
which
is
you
know,
categorized
under
the
low
income
category.
F
That's
that
workforce
bracket
and
then
we
also
want
to
have
a
30
bracket,
which
is
market
rate,
unrestricted
and
and
the
the
benefit
of
that
is
that
the
fact
that
we're
going
to
build
a
project
and
with
all
amenities
and
all
of
these
different
resources
that
someone
that
is
willing
to
pay
you
know
full
full
market
rate
rents
is
saying
yeah,
that's
a
community
that
I
want
to
live
in,
but
also
it's
the
same
type
of
unit
with
the
same
amenities
and
the
same
access
for
someone,
that's
at
the
50
percent
of
our
median
income
spectrum.
F
So
it
will
address
a
lot
of
those
concerns
that
I
heard
earlier
today
from
the
public
as
far
as
hey
I
either
either
my
neighborhood
is
being
gentrified
and
and
therefore
now
there's
market
forces
at
work
that
are
pushing
me
out
of
my
neighborhood,
but
I
still
want
to
remain
here
or,
conversely.
Yes,
you
want
to
bring
that
progress,
but
you
also
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
community
and
have
that
type
of
income
diversity.
So
that's
how
we're
able
to
make
our
projects
feasible.
F
That's
that's
an
approach
that
we've
applied
many
times
in
many
municipalities
throughout
the
state.
So
that's
that
is
a
big
a
benefit
long
term,
not
just
for
the
community,
but
also
for
our
public
partners.
A
lot
of
the
community
assets
that
we're
building.
You
know
you
heard
we're
going
to
be
building
a
cultural
center.
F
That's
part
of
the
part
of
our
agreement,
we're
going
to
be
having
a
workforce
training
center
as
part
of
our
our
redevelopment,
along
with
numerous
other
amenities
and
activities
and
and
peter
will,
will
touch
a
little
bit
upon
those,
but
to
your
point,
councilman
goods.
You
know
we
are
the
first
developer
in
miami-dade
county
to
ever
have
proffered
a
community
benefits
agreement
in
one
of
our
deals
and
the
reason
why
we
did.
F
That
is
because
we
wanted
to
document
that
that
community
engagement
piece,
and
so
how
do
we
do
that
is,
is
after
these
sessions
and
after
these
meetings
we're
able
to
address
those.
You
know
put
that
in
writing
and
that
becomes
our
playbook
as
we
execute
these
developments.
We
worked
with
your
staff
and
as
as
as
as
they
mentioned,
it's
not
just
the
land
disposition
agreement.
There's
a
community
of
benefits.
Agreement
attached
to
to
this.
F
To
this
to
this
piece
and-
and
and
I
and
I
I
we're
I'm
glad
to
hear
you
know
like
when
you
hear,
like
mr
robinson
say
that
that,
for
a
long
time
this
community
has
been
asking
for
that,
that
will,
you
know
we'll
be
able
to
now
be
once
again
the
first
development
company
to
be
able
to
work
from
a
documented
written
community
benefits
agreement,
and
then
a
couple
of
other
major
points
that
I
that
I'd
like
to
touch
upon
our
local
hiring
piece.
F
You
know
we've
committed
to
20
of
local
hiring
as
part
of
the
development.
Again
there
was
a
lot
of
of
of
of
discussion
earlier
and
I
know
councilman
vieira.
You,
you
talked
about
this
the
program
to
try
to
do
an
apprenticeship
program
to
to
to
address
folks
coming
out
of
the
community
criminal
justice
system.
I
will
tell
you
that's
another
initiative
that
we
adopted
first
in
our
liberty
square
redevelopment
in
miami-dade
county,
like
other
private
companies.
F
You
know
pitfalls
on
that,
but
I
will
tell
you
today
that
we
made
a
concerted
effort
to
hire
not
just
local
hires
but
to
to
hire
folks
coming
out
of
the
criminal
justice
system,
and
probably
that
is
the
most
impactful
thing
that
we've
been
able
to
do
as
part
of
our
redevelopment.
Yes,
we've
built
new
housing
and,
yes,
we've
got
people
living
in
brand
new,
just
like
we're
doing
in
in
west
river,
but
the
impact
that
we've
been
able
to
make
with
that
outreach
and
that
program
has
been
substantial.
F
F
It's
not
a
job,
it's
a
career,
because
they've
learned
the
opportunity
to
they've
learned
the
trade
now
and
not
they're,
not
just
working
in
the
project
that
we
that
that
we
had
they've,
actually
been
permanently
hired
with
subcontractors,
and
now
they
have
a
career
for
their
future
and
to
feed
themselves
long
term.
So
those
programs
work.
F
I
can
tell
you
that
that
is
something
that
that
you
guys
should
continue
to
have
the
discussions
about
and
push
forward,
and
we
will
gladly
also
work
alongside
of
you
to
help
promote
that
and
then
the
other
piece
is
is
contracts
for
small
businesses.
We
committed
to
40
of
that
to
small
40
of
the
value
of
our
contracts
to
go
to
small
and
minority
certified
businesses.
We
know
that
small
businesses
and
minority
businesses
hire
locally.
That's
a
proven
fact,
so
we
want
to
be
sensitive
to
the
community
right.
F
You
don't
want
to
just
the
the
worst
thing
you
can
have.
Is
these
type
of
redevelopments,
where
you're
building
and
the
neighborhood
is
kind
of
on
the
outside,
looking
in
not
participating
in
that
rebuilding
of
their
own
community?
So
that's
why
we
made
that
commitment.
We
you
know
it
probably
exceeds
anything
that
the
city
of
tampa
has
has
seen
before
in
some
of
their
contract.
Metrics
we've
had
those
commitments
made
before
and
we've
exceeded
them
and
we're
exceeding
those
also
in
west
river.
F
So
I
just
thank
you
for
for
the
opportunity
again
to
to
work
alongside
you,
as
as
your
private
sector
partner
and,
and
we
know
that
we'll
be
able
to
bring
the
same
type
of
success
that
we've
had
at
west
river
alongside
the
city
now
in
in
the
romeo
art
development.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
over
to
peter
van
warner.
F
E
Question
again,
I've
been
down
to
miami
my
family's
down,
and
I
I
know
the
liberty
project,
so
I
I
get
it
for
me.
It's
making
sure
that
that
community
was
was
a
black
community.
It's
no
doubt
so.
For
me,
it's
making
sure
that
the
opportunity
is
there
to
come
back,
be
able
to
work
so
do
we
have
a
system
to
play?
Do
you
have
a
system
player
the
staff
that
says
in
play
to
monitor
and
make
sure
that
those
minorities
are
giving
a
chance
to
be
on
those
job
sites?
E
That
council
can
be
getting
updates
to
know
what
is
the
percent
of
people
that
are
actually
working
on
the
project
to
say
we
have
actual
people
working
on
that
project
that
look
like
me
or
hispanic
and
and
making
sure
that
we
have
are
meeting
those
goals.
So
I
don't
hear
calls
we
ain't
getting
no
work
right.
E
That's
number
one
number
two:
when
we
talk
about
the
retail
of
the
business,
making
sure
that
how
we
know
or
what
kind
of
goals
are
set
or
what
does
the
city
ports
make
sure
that
we
have
people
who
are
able
to
who,
in
that
low
income
bracket,
be
able
to
be
able
to
maybe
have
a
salon
in
that
retail
space
to
be
able
to
to
to
work
there
as
well.
F
So
so
excellent
points
and
and
and
twofold
the
we
have
monitoring
provisions
in
the
agreement,
so
we
will
be
doing
regular
monitoring
and
reporting
to
the
city
and
and
those
that
reporting
will
be
brought
forth
through
your
normal
channels
to
to
address
some
of
these
these
commitments.
So
that's
in
the
agreement.
F
I
can
tell
you
that,
but
on
on
your
second
point,
which
is
an
excellent
point
and
I
forgot
to
touch
on
it-
we've
agreed
also
to
set
aside
10
of
our
retail
space
for
local
area
businesses
and-
and
that's
that's
another
very
important
point
that
we've
been
able
to
address
in
some
of
our
other
redevelopments,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
You
hear,
and
you
say
well,
we
have
50
000
square
feet
of
retail
and
that
that's
great,
you
know
that
brings
jobs
and
that
brings
economic
development
to
the
neighborhood.
But
what
happens?
F
Is
it
all?
It's
also
dependent
upon
how
you
break
up
that
retail
right,
because
I
have
50
000
square
feet
of
retail
and
I
have
two
tenants
at
25
000..
That's
great
we're
doing.
You
know
we're
bringing
the
publix
to
to
to
west
river.
So
that's
a
great
thing
for
the
era,
but
that
doesn't
necessarily
address
the
issue
that
you
just
raised
about
having
a
local
business
have
an
opportunity
to
start
their
their
their
business.
F
So
we
always
want
to
focus
on
some
of
that
piece
and
have
what
we
call
micro
retail,
because
if
we
can
break
that
up
into
smaller
pieces,
then
it's
an
affordable
rent
that
someone
could,
from
the
neighborhood
start
their
own
business
in
a
new
space,
that's
marketable
and
allows
them
to
grow.
So
yes,
that's
another
thing,
that's
in
our
agreement
and
I
forgot
to
touch
on
it.
So
thank
you
for
for
bringing
that
up.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate.
K
Cedric.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
for
for
giving
us
this
information,
especially
on
diversity
and
affordable
housing,
come
on
back
he's
coming.
K
But
if
we're
going
to
have
excuse
me,
however,
if
we're
going
to
have
this
diversity
in
housing,
we
better
have
the
diversity
while
construction
is
going
on,
and
I
applaud
you
on
bringing
in
as
many
black-owned
businesses
construction
businesses
that,
but
I
want
to
focus
on
the
apprenticeship
which
our
councilman
louis
fierro
has
championed.
K
I'm
hoping
that
you're
going
to
make
sure
that
it's
state
approved
apprenticeship
number
one
number
two,
and
I'm
hoping
that
within
that
apprenticeship
program,
you're
going
to
have
the
wimbys
the
black
owned,
the
the
minorities
it
would.
You
know
in
in
on
the
same
scale
within
that
apprenticeship
program,
and
this
this
is
just
an
ask
that
I'm
hoping
will
be
achieved
during
this.
If
we're
going
to
have
diversity
in
housing,
let's
hope
we're
going
to
have
diverse
and
diversity
in
the
construction
of
that.
K
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
in
one
of
your
powerport
presentations,
you
have
a
large
number
of
electrical
vehicle
charging
stations.
Thank
you.
H
Just
the
questions,
because
otherwise
I'm
pulling
out
my
pin
to
start
keeping
track
of
the
questions
in
the
in
the
agreements.
That's
before
you,
there
are
a
couple
of
things:
councilman
goods
brought
up
the
reporting
of
minority
participation
and
the
set
aside.
Those
are
codified
in
the
agreements.
That's
before
you
and
councilman
sietra,
as
far
as
making
sure
that
their
the
apprenticeship
program
that
you're
talking
about
is
codified
in
the
agreement
as
well
to
comply
with
the
city's
apprenticeship
program
and
that's
built
into
the
agreement,
and
I
just
to
touch
back.
H
H
It
doesn't
happen
all
at
the
end
of
the
project,
they're
incremental,
in
order
for
them
to
move
on
to
another
part
or
another
part
of
their
phase.
There
are
different
things
in
the
community
benefits
agreements
that
they
have
to
achieve
in
in
complete
before
moving
on
to
the
other
phase.
So
we
have
built
in
those
checks
and
balances
throughout
the
project
and
the
timing
and
phasing
plan
will
come
back
before
council.
I
think.
K
K
F
That's
an
another
excellent
point,
so
just
as
I
touched
upon
earlier
of
some
of
our
when
we
introduced
this,
this
program
is
for
local
hiring
and
especially
for
the
folks
coming
out
of
the
general
justice
criminal
justice
system
a
lot
of
times.
The
program
rules
are
not
set
up
to
help
this
population
unintended
consequences,
but
they
are,
you
know,
was
part
of
the
part
of
the
process.
I'll
give
you
an
example,
because
most
of
these
individuals
are
unskilled
so
they're
in
in
the
case
of
hud
projects.
F
You
have
these
these
davis
bacon
rules
so
to
make
a
long
story
short
because
of
some
of
those
rules
we
went
and
we
got
our
own
state
certified
by
the
state
department
of
education
apprenticeship
program,
so
related
urban
has
its
own,
so
we
can
definitely
work
alongside
you
know
your
program
to
to
we've
kind
of
cut
our
teeth.
F
If
you
will
on
some
of
the
pitfalls
of
getting
it
approved,
but
we
know
what
it
takes
to
do
it
and,
like
I
said
before
it
works,
so
we
it
will
definitely
be
state
certified
because
it's
not
just
it.
It
doesn't
just
have
a
on-the-job,
training
piece,
that's
part
of
it
where
they
get
their.
You
know
the
income
side
there's
also
a
required
classroom
component.
So,
at
the
end
of
a
four
a
three
to
four
year
period,
they
have
a
certification
again,
that's
why
I
say
we
don't
reference
this
as
a
job.
C
L
Thank
you
chairman,
just
to
put
down
what
we
discussed
a
little
earlier
you're
going
to
have
total
954
units
right
right,
of
which
185
units
are
going
to
be
at
50,
ami
and
of
which
94
units
will
be
80
of
ami
and
of
which
368
units
100
3mi
out
of
that
954.
L
That
means
you're
going
to
have
647
of
them
under
some
form
of
ami
you're,
going
to
have
what
307
units
left
at
market
rate.
I
guess
that's
correct
and,
along
with
that,
you're
going
to
have
29
000,
almost
30
000
feet
of
commercial
in
the
whole
unit
and
of
that
you're
going
to
have
3761
feet
with
the
west
hampiculture
center
and
you're
going
to
have
roughly
19
744
feet
of
some
type
of
community
benefit
area
and
along
with
that
you're
going
to
have
the
what
council
was
discussing
the
scholarship.
L
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
to
you
and
your
sister
brother
companies
for
all
the
investment
you've
made
in
tampa.
You
all
have
got
a
huge
footprint
in
tampa
now
in
lots
of
different
ways
through
all
your
different
companies.
So
thank
you
for
doing
that,
and
also
thank
you
for
obviously
the
investment
of
time
you
made
everything
you're
talking
about
now
shows
you
spend
a
lot
of
time
with
the
community,
and
you
know
some.
Some
developers
walk
in
and
kind
of
the
community
says,
bullies
them
and
accepting
whatever
they
propose.
G
In
this
case,
you
spend
a
lot
of
time
working
with
the
community,
so
I
think
we
all
appreciate
that.
Thanks
also
to
your
colleagues
for
investing
in
the
arts.
I
know
you
invest
in
the
arts
wherever
you
go,
and
you
haven't
mentioned
that
yet,
but
there's
a
great
botero
on
on
bayshore
bulla
right
now
that
everybody
thanks
you
for
yeah
and
I
know
there's
more
to
come.
I
just
had
a
clarifying
question
on
the
was
it
128
million.
F
That's
the
12.5.
The
capital
investment
is
going
to
exceed
400
million
dollars
at
the
time
of
the
rfp,
it
was
390
million.
Obviously,
costs
have
have
have
increased
a
lot,
so
it's
probably
going
to
be
in
excess,
probably
at
this
point
in
excess
of
500
million
in
economic
development
and
and
construction
costs,
but
over
the
life
of
the
project.
The
12
and
a
half
percent
cash
flow
component
is
is
gonna,
probably
exceed
120
million
dollars.
Okay,.
G
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
you
throwing
out
that
number
and
and
thanks
it
sounds
like
from
the
other
rp's.
You
were
the
only
one
that
offered
that
so
that
that
will
help
the
the
city
to
have
money
to
do
other
things
is:
are
there
any
property
tax
exemptions
included
in
this?
Are
you
all
going
to
be
paying
property
tax
on
the
entire
investment
yeah.
G
F
J
J
Also,
with
some
of
my
colleagues
said
in
terms
of
just
how
how
happy
and
content
the
city
is
to
be
partnering
up
with
related
and
all
your
brother
and
sister
groups
and
organizations,
you
know
the
vision
that
you
put
forward.
J
I
think
it
really
speaks
to
the
economic
anxiety
and
dislocation
that
we
have
seen
in
in
tampa
in
florida
throughout
much
of
the
united
states
over
the
last
few
years,
starting
with
covenant
in
the
aftermath
of
covid,
we're
seeing
you
know,
numbers
locally
and
in
florida
and
throughout
the
country
that
that
really
formulate
what
I
call
an
attack
on
those
who
want
to
stay
in
the
middle
class
and
attack
on
those
who
are
working
hard
every
day
to
get
their
families
into
the
middle
class
and
into
the
working
class
etc,
whether
it's
inflation,
it's
eight
percent
nationally
about
10
11
percent.
J
Here
in
the
tampa
area,
27
percent
increase
in
rent
in
tampa
bay
over
the
last
year,
gas
prices
at
four
five
dollars
a
gallon.
You
know
working
families
are
finding
harder
and
harder
to
get
by,
but
the
real
center
of
that
is
housing.
You
know
when,
when
we
say
that
that
housing
is
a
right,
I
always
tell
people,
that's
not
some
radical
political
slogan.
I
always
say
that
comes
right
out
of
george
bailey
and
it's
a
wonderful
life,
the
the
bailey
building
alone.
J
Then
you
deserve
a
good
house
in
a
safe
neighborhood
where
you
can
raise
your
family
and
this
this
project
does
that
not
only
for
those
who
are
working
hard
to
get
into
the
middle
class
working
class
people
lower
income
folks
who
are
working
hard
every
day
and
taking
those
hits
but
to
our
middle
class
as
well
for
working
class
people.
We
ask
a
lot
in
the
city
of
tampa.
Why?
Don't
our
police
officers
and
firefighters
live
in
the
city
of
tampa?
Well,
you
know
why?
Because
they
can't
afford
it.
J
You
start
off
earning
50,
60,
000,
good
luck,
living
in
the
city
of
tampa,
and
it's
getting
worse,
it's
getting
worse
if
you
earn
75
000
right,
your
household
does
you.
I
was
talking
yesterday
to
where
the
the
apartment
folks
are
saying
that
the
average
apartment
is
going
for.
I
think
it
is
two
bedroom
about
eighteen
hundred
dollars.
J
It's
about
thirty
percent
of
your
gross
income
before
taxes
before
child
care,
before
health
care
and
before
god
knows
what
so,
you
know,
those
numbers
really
come
together
to
form
again
an
attack
on
those
who
want
to
stay
in
the
middle
class
and
attack
on
those
who
are
fighting
hard
to
get
into
the
working
into
the
middle
class
and
and
it's
it's
something
that
also,
I
think,
speaks
to
the
tampa
experience.
J
You
all
have
I'll
do
a
lot
of
work
in
miami.
I
have
family
in
miami
and
you
know
we
we
in
a
way
like
miami,
we're
a
city
of
immigrants,
we're
a
city
of
refugees
and
I
think
about
my
family.
When
we
came
here,
my
dad
came
to
tampa
in
1960
from
cuba.
My
mom
came
to
miami
in
1960
and
we
had
nothing.
J
We
had
nothing,
but
it
was
programs
and
efforts
either
through
the
private
sector,
things
in
the
catholic
church
or
through
state
and
local
and
federal
government,
combined
with
our
hard
work
that
would
meet
us
halfway
there
to
get
us
to
where
we're
at
today.
So
I
guess
my
summary
is
that
projects
like
this
are
such
wonderful
public,
private
sector
partnerships
that
help
people
achieve
the
american
dream
and
we
are
a
city
of
the
american
dream.
J
F
M
A
M
M
It's
because,
in
my
opinion,
they
just
don't
care,
but
either
they
don't
care,
they
come
in.
They
develop
raise.
What
was
there
ignore
the
history
ignore
the
people
ignore
the
community.
I
can
tell
you
wholeheartedly.
I
care
it
starts
with
albert
care
and
that's
why
I
work
with
this
company
and
our
entire
team
cares.
We've
reached
out
to
the
community
multiple
community
outreach
events.
They
wanted
a
cigar
tower
observation
tower
with
brick
to
be
indicative
of
the
old
historical
cigar
towers
in
west
tampa
we
have
a
cigar
tower.
M
We
care
about
the
environment,
we're
doing
leed
silver.
All
my
architects
at
west
river
hate
me
because
I'm
making
them
redesign
over
all
the
old
oak
trees.
We
really
really
care.
I
think
you'll
see
that's
very
present.
I'd
invite
any
of
you
to
come
out
visit
west
river.
I
know
you've
been
there
councilman
goodes
the
look
on
these
residents
faces
when
they
walk
back
into
some
of
their
their
units,
completely
redone.
It's
priceless!
That's
why
I
work
with
this
company.
I
can
tell
you
with
all
my
heart:
we
really
really
care.
M
E
E
So
it's
good
to
go
to
a
place
that
a
person
feels.
I
don't
know
how
much
you
make.
I
don't
know
what
you
make,
but
we've
got
the
same
amenities,
we're
saying
we're
all
living
in
a
place,
that's
nice
and
comfortable.
So
I
I
applaud
you
for
that.
You
know,
I'm
glad
that
you
talked
when
you
talk
about
the
state
apprentice
programs
and
I'm
glad
you
have
a
program
that
mirrors
that
as
well
because
a
lot
of
times
people
can't
meet
that
threshold
either.
E
E
So
I'm
glad
that
we,
we
have
a
secondary
program
that
can
also
help
and
make
sure
those
people
know
that
community
and
others
outliers
can
be
able
to
be
be
a
part
of
the
project,
be
able
to
eat
and
be
able
to
provide
a
shelter
for
themselves,
because
when
you
don't
have
shelter,
that's
when
you
have
issues
and
problems
in
communities
where
you
don't
have
a
place
to
stay.
So
I'm
glad
that.
Would
you
doing
that
again?
I
would
appreciate
that.
C
Thank
you
very
much,
sir,
and
you
know
I
I
think
you've
you've
covered
all
the
bases
or
most
of
the
bases.
The
biggest
crisis
that
we're
facing
is
housing,
affordability
and
you're
coming
in
not
at
you
know,
50
units
you're
coming
in
at
different
levels
that
accommodate
different
incomes,
and
you
know
we
are
in
such
demand.
Right
now
and
people
want
to
live
within
the
city
and
this
is
in
the
center
or
centrally
located
and
they
live
with
dignity,
because
I
know
the
products
that
you
put
out
and
construct
they're
high
quality.
C
The
efforts
that
you
put
into
community
outreach
listening
to
what
the
community
needs
you're
not
coming
in
and
and
gentrifying
and,
like
you
said
why
do
developers
get
a
bad
rap
because
they
come
in
and
they
do
what
they
want.
You
know
and
that's
at
least
a
perception
to
a
lot
of
people
but
you're
coming
in
with
care
you're
coming
in
looking
at
the
details,
listening
to
the
people
listening
to
the
public-
and
you
know,
councilmember
goode
said
it.
C
You
know
you
go
out
there
and
you're
impressed
councilman
vieira
talked
about
his
family
coming
here
from
from
cuba,
you
know
coming
with
nothing
the
same
story
with
with
my
mother
and
my
grandparents
came
from
cuba
60
years
ago
with
nothing
and
because
they
were
afforded
certain
opportunities
and
whatever
and
whatnot
you
know
they
they
built
themselves
up,
tampa's
growing.
You
know
miami
is
a
different
story.
I
I
I
get
anxiety
getting
off
I-95
going
into
downtown,
because
here
at
least
I
can
pull
into
downtown
and
find
a
parking
space
there.
C
Yeah,
you
know,
but
you
know,
I
think
it's
a
is
a
worthy
project.
You
know,
I
know
the
area.
Well,
I
drive
through
there
all
the
time.
I
have
my
whole
life.
You
know
if
this
doesn't
go
through,
then
what
is
going
to
take
its
place?
I
understand
how
the
rfp
was
done,
how
the
bid
was
done,
why
you
were
chosen?
How
cra
dollars
were
not
asked
for
you
came
in
and
put
you
know
your
investment
and
whatnot.
I
like
that.
C
It's
a
99
year
lease,
I'm
young,
but
I'm
not
going
to
be
living
to
see
the
end
of
that
lease,
but
99
year
lease
where
it
is
a
true
public-private
partnership
because
it
will
be
and
will
stay
government-owned
land.
While
you
know
you're,
generating
your
income
because
you're
here
to
make
money
too
and
everything,
but
at
the
same
time
we
retain
ownership.
C
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say.
I
mean
it's.
A
almost
thousand
residential
units,
954
and
687
will
be
income
restricted
and
we
have
a
backlog
of
individuals,
a
lot
of
people
that
are
looking
for
housing,
different
incomes.
Everything
is
expensive
and
you're
you're,
offering
that
close
to
everything
to
the
amenities
that
people
want
along
the
river
near
the
riverwalk
near
downtown
on
and
on
and
on.
So
I
applaud
you
for
that.
L
No,
I
I
just
listened
to
all
the
stories
and
all
of
us
have
basically
the
same
background.
Everyone
in
this
audience
today
come
from
somewhere.
That
was
nowhere
50
100
years
ago.
So
all
of
us
come
somehow
got
to
the
point,
and
I
was
fortunate
that
I
was
raised
in
the
condominiums
before
the
word
was
invented.
I
come
from
tampa
housing
authority,
so
I
considered
a
condominium.
The
ward
wasn't
invented
at
that
time,
but
it
was
nice.
I
had
a
lot
of
friends.
L
I
had
a
lot
of
kids
to
play
with
and
I
had
a
mother
and
father
that
taught
me
right
from
wrong
or
I
make
believe
I
knew
all
that,
but
I
would
say
yes,
don't
worry
about
it.
I
I
was
an
e
student
and
my
mother
told
me
what
is
this
about.
I
said
and
excellent.
L
A
genius,
but
I'm
just
telling
you
thank
you
very
much
for
what
you're
doing
it's
a
it's,
a
wonderful
life
and
tampa
is
a
wonderful
place
to
be
in,
and
that's
what
it's
all
about
we
want
to.
Thank
you.
I
do
anyway,
I'm
sure
the
board.
I
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
vote,
but
of
all
the
three
that
were
the
finalists.
Yours
was
far
and
above
the
one
that
sat
down
and
offered
amenities
that
none
of
the
others
wanted
to
even
take.
So
I
appreciate
you
very
much
councilman
carlson.
G
Just
another
clarifying
question,
maybe
morris
or
somebody
legal-
could
answer
this.
I
I
haven't
studied
this
issue,
but
I
know
that
the
property
appraisers
have
gone
back
and
forth
with
leases
on
public
land
like
in
the
airport
port,
about
whether
people
have
to
pay
property
tax
when
they
have
long-term
leases.
G
A
The
only
government,
only
the
state
and
county
are
really
exempt
from
property
taxes
for
non-governmental
uses.
So
even
if
the
city,
for
instance,
we
have
a
jewelry
shop
in
the
police
department,
building
taxes
have
to
be
paid.
G
The
subject
to
can
I
substitute:
can
I
make
a
motion?
Can
I
say
one
thing?
First,
please.
Yes,
sir,
this
was
I.
I
believe
that
this
was
improperly
noticed
this
morning,
that
it
was
put
on
the
consent
agenda,
and
it
would
it
because
it
was
on
the
cons.
It's
a
120
million
dollar
contract
plus
another
5
million
or
so,
but
the
public
did
not
have
a
proper
chance
to
review
this
or
look
at
it.
G
You
all.
My
colleagues
will
remember.
A
few
months
ago
we
approved
the
hannah
avenue
project,
which
we
thought
in
good
faith
was
going
to
go
forward
with
no
problems.
Two
weeks
later,
the
public
came
before
us
and
said
that,
had
they
been
aware
of
it,
they
would
have
come
back
and
given
us
some
feedback,
and
that
resulted
in
us
trying
to
revoke
the
contract
or
we
send
the
contract,
and
then
we
had
all
kinds
of
legal
legal
problems.
Once
we
approve
this,
it's
a
done
deal
it.
We
can't
undo
it.
C
Council,
member
siegfried,
council
member,
so
I
made
a
motion.
G
E
G
Was
not
noticed
as
a
as
a
as
a
regular
agenda
item
rather
than
a
consent
agenda
item
a
consent.
Agenda
item
should
be
less
than
3
million.
This
is
about
125
million
plus
or
minus
contract.
It
should
have
been
on
a
separate
section.
Had
it
been
in
the
section
that
requires
large
items,
it's
possible
more
people
in
the
public
would
have
shown
up.
We
saw
in
the
hannah
avenue
case
that
we
we
thought
we
had
complete
information,
but
two
weeks
later
the
public
came
to
us
and
said
they.
G
E
A
Compliance
this
this
meeting
was
properly
noticed.
It
was
on
the
agenda
backup
material
such
as
it
is,
was
available
and-
and
you
do
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
council
member
carlson
is
correct,
and
that
did
come
up
recently
with
a
couple
of
items
that
I've
heard
from
the
public
about
that.
Once
pursuant
to
the
charter,
you
authorize
the
mayor
to
sign
the
contract
and
the
mayor
signs
the
contract.
A
It
is
then,
the
contract
that
controls
the
city
council
does
not
have
jurisdiction,
let's
say
over
the
matter,
to
reconsider
it.
So,
with
regard
to
anything,
that's
on
the
consent,
docket
that
requires
the
mayor
seeking
your
approval
by
resolution.
Once
you
give
it,
then,
once
that
contract
is
signed,
you
are
effectively.
I
guess
the
word
would
be
stopped
from
being
able
to
to
for
city
council
to
do
anything.
G
G
This
has
gone
on
for
more
than
a
year
of
discussion
since
the
rfp
was
approved,
even
though
we
didn't
approve
it,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
it
doesn't
hurt
anything
to
wait
two
more
weeks
to
see
if
the
public
has
any
more
feedback
on
it,
because
I
think
most
people
in
public
aren't
even
aware
that
we
were
voting
on
this
today.
There's
been
no
media
coverage
of
it.
A
A
couple
things
I'd
like
to
respond:
first
of
all,
it
was
on
the
agenda.
It
was
noticed
it
was
properly
noticed,
so
you
all
can
act
on
it
today
legally,
in
my
opinion-
and
I
think
mr
shelby
supports
that
relative
to
whether
it
should
have
been
under
the
staff
reports
initially
or
not,
typically
under
one
of
your
motions,
if
the
city
is
paying
more
than
three
million
dollars,
it's
supposed
to
be
under
staff
reports.
A
Part
of
the
issue
here
is
we're
not
paying
anything
we're
receiving
money
and
it
was
hard
to
estimate
what
that
amount
was.
Frankly,
once
I
mean
frankly,
the
staff,
the
administration
itself
decided
to
pull
it
off
of
the
consent
agenda,
so
it
would
be
put
under
staff
reports,
so
you
could
have
a
more
robust
discussion
about
the
matter,
so
that
was
done
by
the
administration.
So
I
did
want
to
point
that
out
there
are-
and
I
just
I
know
you
had
public
comment
this
morning,
relative
to
councilman
carlson's
point.
A
I
Thank
you
very
much
council.
I
watched
the
meeting
this
morning
and
the
indication
appear
to
be
that
we
will
be
able
to
speak
this
afternoon.
I
thank
you.
Your
name,
sir
robert
pete
edwards.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
continue
this.
They
need
to
rework
summit
agreement.
Let
me
give
you
a
perspective
of
it.
If
you
remember
in
the
previous
administration,
they
had
talked
about
the
west
end
project.
They
had
even
talked
about
opening
up
willow
all
the
way
to
the
river,
but
they
had
denied
all
the
way.
I
To
the
end
that
the
previous
administration
had
took
the
lead
over
the
school
board
responsibility
to
sell
all
the
schools
off
the
river,
then
it
finally
came
out.
It
was
verified
in
the
tampa
bay
times
in
the
tampa
tribute
now,
when
you
look
at
this
agreement
this
morning
this
afternoon,
it
talks
about
the
boundaries
which
include
the
schools
north
of
the
river,
but
I
find
it
interesting
and
the
city
attorney
he
kind
of
he
kind
of
threw
everybody
for
luke
when
they
talked
about
the
schools
were
by
another
government
and
all
so.
I
A
Be
happy
to
address
both
of
those.
This
agreement
applies
only
to
the
city-owned
property.
It
does
not
include
any
of
the
schools.
There's
been
no
discussion
about,
including
the
schools
in
this
agreement.
It
applies
solely
to
the
city-owned
property,
and
if
there
is
any
future
agreement
that
would
involve
the
schools
in
the
vicinity
of
this
project
that
would
have
to
come
back
before
this
body
for
approval.
We,
it
cannot
be
done
unilaterally
without
the
coming
forward
before
this
body.
I
A
That's
the
right
way
to
do
it.
The
agreement
is
solely
between
the
developer
and
the
city,
so
we
cannot
bind
other
other
governmental
bodies
without
their
approval.
That
was
a
general
description
of
the
area.
The
legal
description
that
is
attached
to
the
document
and
which
is
controlling
is
the
legal
description
of
the
property
that
the
city
owns
only
thank.
I
I
Trust
in
all,
so
why?
Wouldn't
they
do
that,
just
in
the
best
interest
of
uniting
this
community
and
moving
forward,
I'm
not
against
the
project.
The
question
I
have
is
the
way
they
did
it
under
the
previous
administration.
A
lot
of
you
councilman,
didn't
know
about
it.
They
denied
it.
I
was
tipped
off
about
it.
They
denied
it
to
the
end
to
the
last
meeting
when
we
had
to
figure
out
what
we
were
going
to
do
with
riverfront
park.
I
E
I
guess
this
will
go
to
miss
travis
and
albert.
Are
we
in
a
time
crunch?
I
need
to
know
that,
because,
if
two
weeks
to
delay
to
just
make
sure
you
know,
we've
had
so
much
chaos
with
other
projects.
Recently,
I
don't
want
to
be
able
to
be
in
a
position
to
where
I
like
the
project,
and
I
got
to
sit
back
and
wait
so
much.
You
know
I
I
I
would.
Rather,
if
we
need
to
do,
we
need
to
do
to
make
sure
everything's,
open
and
transparent.
E
F
E
Mr
massey,
to
mr
to
mr
edwards
questions
to
his
point:
could
that
be
accomplished?
What
he's
talking
about
or
again,
is
it
back
to
your
point?
We
you
just
can't
do
that.
A
I
can
tell
you
without
equivocation
that
this
agreement
applies
solely
to
the
city-owned
property.
It
does
not
include
the
schools
and,
if
there's
going
to
be
any
agreement
that
affects
the
schools
adjacent
or
nearby
to
this
project,
it
has
to
come
before
this
body.
We
cannot
bind
the
school
board,
we
cannot
bind
hillsborough
county,
we
can't
bind
any
other
governmental
entity
or
any
other
entity
who's,
not
a
party
to
the
agreement.
The
sole
parties
to
this
agreement
are
rudg
llc
in
the
city
of
tampa
and
the
legal
description
attached
to
the
agreements.
L
Can
bond
another
government
without
knowledge
of
anybody
period,
one
way
or
the
other,
and,
and
you
know
it's-
I'm
not
the
smartest
guy
or
nor
the
sharpest
not
from
the
door,
but
I'm
not
waiting
another
day.
I
know
what
money
cost.
I
know
what
things
cost.
I
know
what
a
2x4
used
to
cost
two
years
ago.
I
know
what
it
costs
now
and
it's
10
times
the
amount
almost,
but
it
just
I'm
not
using
that
as
an
excuse.
This
was
on
the
agenda
when
it
was
on
page
five
or
page
six.
L
It
was
there
whether
it
was
in
one
area
or
the
other
area.
This
council
had
a
vote
on
it,
no
matter
which
area
was
in
whether
in
a
b
or
c.
So,
let's
clear
that
out
where
got
elected
to
vote,
if
they
want
to
say
I
did
something
wrong
come
come
see
me:
that's
the
fbi.
The
cia.
Anybody
come
see
me
because
I'm
not
afraid
because
I've
done
nothing
wrong.
L
E
C
J
M
J
J
I
mean
I
number
one
this.
This
was
noticed
I've
known
about
this
for
a
significant
amount
of
time,
as
long
as
I
think
everyone
else
has
and
if
and
if
there
is
because
you
know
hannah
was
brought
up.
If
there
is
something
that
is
known
right,
then
we
should
probably
say
it
here
today.
In
other
words,
if
we're
saying
oh
well,
we
don't
want
another
similar
issue
to
come
up
like
hannah.
J
If
there
is
something
that's
known,
we
should
all
know
about
it
right
here
today
to
the
extent
that
they
are,
I
just
think
and
and
again-
and
I
appreciate
and
respect
councilman
carlson's
motion,
but
I
think
it
would
probably
be
bad
form
for
us
to
have
everyone
here.
Have
the
presentation
and
go
hey?
Listen,
let's
wait
another
two
weeks
because
there
was
a
bad
experience
some
time
ago.
I
just
respectfully
can't
support
that
and
I
do
mean
respect.
Thank
you.
K
G
L
G
The
project
sounds
great,
I'm
voting
against
it
because
I
think
the
public
needs
more
time
to
it'll
probably
be
a
six
to
one
vote,
but
I
think
the
public
needs
more
time
to
weigh
in
and
we
need
more
time
to
to
surface
this
after
a
year
and
two
weeks
or
a
year
and
a
month
of
working
on
this
project,
I
think
that
it
we
should
have
had
two
more
weeks
to
look
at
it
and
then
the
public
should
have
been
noticed
in
a
in
a
more
transparent
and
accountable
way,
and
it
didn't
happen,
and
so
I
I'm
just
gonna
vote
no.
E
I
you
know,
I
I
understand
mr
carlson's
point.
I
respect
that
I'm
going
to
vote
yes
in
the
project,
but
I
think
going
forward.
This
council
needs
to
look
at
the
rfp
process.
The
notice
process-
and
maybe
council
needs
to
change
the
process.
So
we
don't
go
down
these
roads
anymore,
we're
starting
to
get
some
large
projects.
Now.
Publics
are
asking
questions,
so
I
think
for
transparency
in
the
future.
We
need
to
look
at
making
motions
across
into
to
maybe
change
the
process
going
forward,
but
I
will
vote
on
the
project
for
today.
N
I
I
will
agree,
it
sounds
that
we
need
a
better
process
for
notifying
these
larger
projects
that
have
a
lot
of
interest
from
the
public,
but
I
do
understand
where
everyone's
coming
from
and
how
long
this
project
has
been
worked
on
and-
and
I
understand
the
money
seriousness,
it
does
sound
like
a
good
project,
but
I'm
not.
N
I
am.
I
am
concerned
that
the
public
didn't
get
as
much
of
a
voice
as
they
might
have
so
we'll
see
what
happens,
but
it.
It
sounds
like
a
great
project.
C
Thank
you
very
much
and
your
your
the
bid
was
chosen.
You
were
chosen
for
the
reasons
we've
already
talked
about.
I
think
you
went
above
and
beyond
the
other
bidders.
I
think
you
went
above
and
beyond
the
community
outreach
that
just
the
numbers
in
itself
of
what's
affordable
and
what's
market
rate,
especially
in
this
climate,
when
we're
looking
for
affordable,
where
every
day
that
conversation
is
lack
thereof,
affordable,
housing,
you're
in
the
center
of
the
city,
the
amenities,
the
quality
of
construction,
the
quality
of
life
people
will
be
living
in
dignity.
C
L
L
Item
number
21,
the
substitute
that
file
is
22,
74
o53,
exactly
and
the
substitute
on
the
on
the
substitute
motion
for
that
file.
I
I
moved
that
resolution.
G
Chair,
can
you
just
say
I,
although
I
would
have
voted,
also
to
continue
this
one,
since
the
first
one
was
approved,
I'll,
go
ahead
and
vote
yes
on
this
one.
Thank
you.
C
L
The
vote
again
on
20-
I
I
believe
in
my
own,
I
did
not
say
the
file
number
and
I
wonder
I
want
the
the
record
to
be
100.
So
I
like
to
re-vote
on
item
number
20.
L
I
would
like
to
read
file
number
20,
which
is
found
number
f2274004.
L
C
Opened
the
public
no
move
to
open
the
130
publication.
L
O
The
petitioner
filed
a
review
for
a
special
use,
application
that
was
requesting
for
an
ex
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
staff
denied
the
application
request
on
january
24th
of
2022
on
the
basis
that
the
application
did
not
meet
the
criteria
set
forth
in
code,
section
27-132,
members
of
city
council
you're
just
provided
copies
of
the
relevant
code
sections,
which
is
code,
sections,
27-132,
27-129
and
27-30.
O
O
That
section
means
that
city
council
conducts
a
de
novo
standard
of
re
review,
which
means
that
you
can
accept
testimony
public
comment
and
make
your
decision
to
determine
whether
or
not
the
applicant
or
the
petitioner
meets
the
code.
The
relevant
code
sections
for
this
for
this
application
staff,
who
is
going
to
present
the
staff's
finding
and
the
reasoning
for
the
stats
position
decision,
is
laura
marley
after
you
conduct
take
up,
you
know,
collect
all
the
evidence.
In
this
case,
city
council
can
take
a
couple
of
actions.
O
You
can
affirm
the
decision
of
the
zoning
administrator
and
deny
the
special
use
application
or
you
can
overturn
the
decision
of
the
zoning
administrator
and
thereby
grant
the
special
use
application
and
with
that
I'll
turn
the
presentation
over
to
ms
marley.
B
A
And
just
just
a
council
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
council
received
and
filed
any
ex
parte
communication
subject
to
florida
statutes,
286
0
115
and
if
there's
any
verbal
ex
parted
communications,
please
disclose
them
now
anything:
okay,
let's
even.
C
B
B
This
is
the
subject
property
looking
from
miami,
and
this
is
the
ex
the
accessory
structure
looking
from
east
henry
avenue,
and
this
is
a
photo
or
an
aerial
from
east
henry
avenue.
This
is
a
single
family
and
this
is
the
accessory
structure
in
question,
and
these
are
the
code
requirements
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
B
They
are
the
applicant
is
going
to
meet
all
of
them
with
the
exception
of
c,
which
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
may
be
designed
to
be
located
within
a
single
family
dwelling
with
a
separate
entrance
or
in
a
non
in
a
conforming
accessory
structure.
However,
it
may
not
be
located
in
a
non-conforming
accessory
structure
or
structure
made
conforming
as
a
result
of
the
variance
the
proposed
access
accessory
structure
will
be
located
in
an
existing
accessory
structure
that
does
not
meet
the
minimum
required
setbacks,
that's
required
by
code
and
therefore
non-conforming
a
side.
B
Street
setback
of
three
feet
and
a
rear
setback
of
three
feet
is
required.
The
existing
accessory
structure
does
not
comply
with
either
requirement
and
the
request
is
a
zero
foot.
Setback
for
the
street
and
rear
side
backs
setbacks,
and
here
is
the
survey
of
the
property,
the
existing
single
family
and
the
existing
accessory
structure.
As
you
can
see
that
they
are
on
the
property
line
on
henry
and
on
the
property
line,
which
is
considered
the
rear,
they're
required
as
three
feet:
they're
pretty
much
zero
feet.
C
No
yes,
ma'am
go
ahead,
were
you
sworn
in
just
now,
okay,
good
go
ahead
and
please
state
your.
Q
Q
Thank
you,
sorry,
everybody.
I
appreciate
your
patience,
okay,
so
this
is
a
request
for,
as
staff
correctly
explained,
it's
a
request
for
a
waiver
to
a
single
criterion
in
the
special
use
for
accessory
dwelling
units
set
of
criteria
specifically
to
wave
to
allow
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
in
a
non-conforming
structure.
Q
Q
So
the
special
use
one
permit,
as
you
all
are
familiar,
is
it's
an
administrative
process,
so
it
goes
through
staff
review,
there's
no
public
hearing,
but
staff
does
not
have
the
authority
to
grant
waivers
from
those
criteria.
Only
city
council
has
that
authority
so
staff,
even
though
it
meets
all
the
other
code.
As
staff
explained,
staff
had
to
deny
the
application,
because
one
of
those
criteria
was
not
met
and
this
petition
for
review
venue
allows
the
possibility,
for
you
all
to
grant
a
waiver
of
that
particular
criterion
and,
as
staff
explained,
it's
a
three-foot
difference.
Q
Q
Q
Another
you
saw
the
site
plan
just
a
moment
ago,
and
here
it
is
in
context
of
the
aerial
structure.
You
can
see
an
alley
runs
along
the
west
kind
of
buffering
that
structure
from
the
adjacent
property
to
the
to
the
west,
yeah
and
then
to
the
north
is
henry
avenue.
Q
The
right-of-way
there's
a
paved
portion
and
an
unimproved
portion
that
kind
of
is
an
additional
buffer
in
the
north.
The
photo
you
saw
earlier
was
a
little
older.
This
is
they've
cleaned
it
up,
but
this
is
really
just
kind
of
on
the
ground
to
give
you
context
of
that
alley,
and
also
that
this
is
the
area.
If
you're
standing
on
henry,
you
see
the
unimproved
portion
of
henry.
So
there's
a
lot
of
you
know:
yard
space
it
just
doesn't
belong
to
them,
but
there
is
kind
of
a
buffer
around
this.
Q
This
structure
so
again
the
special
use
criteria
this
dwelling
unit
or
this
accessory
dwelling
unit,
is
less
than
950
square
feet.
I
believe
it's
about
815..
Q
The
main
residence
is
owner
occupied,
it's
their
homestead,
it's
a
non-conforming
structure.
This
is
a
justifiable
waiver
from
this
particular
criteria
that
would
otherwise
prohibit
use
of
a
non-conforming
structure.
This
particular
criteria
does
not
recognize
kind
of
what's
going
on
in
tampa's,
older
neighborhoods,
especially
where
so
many
of
these
structures
exist.
This
type
of
use
is
very
common
and
it's
unnecessarily
restrictive
to
disallow
use
of
existing
building
stock.
Q
When
so
many
people
want
to
use
it
for
accessory
dwelling
units
and
when
it
meets
all
other
code
criteria,
so
it
doesn't
really
reflect
the
reality
and
the
desirability
to
be
using
these
as
a
form
of
housing
will
the
applicants
are
prepared
to
comply
with
the
number
of
occupant
limitation,
and
a
safeguard
of
this
process
is
that
it
is
reviewed.
The
permit
is
reviewed
annually
by
staff
if
granted
and
if
conditions
change.
If
it
became
some
kind
of
a
negative
impact,
it
would
come
before
you
all
again
to
reassess.
Q
The
general
standards
for
all
special
use-
one
criteria
are
permits.
There
can't
be
a
negative
impact
to
health
safety
and
welfare.
Again,
this
is
a
common
use
in
the
neighborhood
at
large.
It's
an
existing
structure.
There
are
those
buffer
areas
that
I
showed
you
it's.
It
complies
with
all
other
applicable
code
regulations
and
standards.
It's
compatible
with
the
neighborhood.
For
the
reasons
I
explained
it's
a
very
common
type
of
structure
and
it's
also
a
common
type
of
use.
Q
Q
Of
course,
I
don't
have
surveys
on
all
of
these,
but
visibly
they
appear
to
be
very
close,
if
not
flush
with
many
of
the
boundary
the
lot
boundaries-
and
I
don't
know
if
these
all
have
special
permits-
or
you
know
if
they're
non-conforming,
because
again
I
don't
have
the
information,
I
don't
have
their
surveys
or
their
permits,
but
these
are
just
kind
of
a
an
example
of
the
types
of
structures
you
see
in
the
surrounding
area,
where
they're
using
these
they're
cleaning
them
up
they're
using
them
as
accessory
dwelling
units,
and
a
lot
of
these,
as
you
can
see,
are
flush
with
fence
lines.
Q
So
presumably
they
are
similarly
situated.
As
you
saw
a
lot
of
the
aerials.
The
way
these
structures
are
the
blue
pin
drops
are
all
support
letters
we
received
adjacent
to
the
south
adjacent
across
the
alley
to
the
northwest
adjacent
to
the
north
across
henry
across
the
street,
and
one
lot
to
the
south.
We
haven't
received
objections.
I
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
here
to
speak
today,
so
in
sum
we're
requesting
a
waiver
from
a
single
criterion
that
doesn't
really
reflect
the
actual
patterns
of
development,
especially
in
these
older
neighborhoods,
we're
reusing,
building
stock.
Q
K
1930,
thank
you
very
much.
What
brought
on
this
case
did
someone
call
code
enforcement
or
anybody
about
this
so.
Q
What
happened
was,
unfortunately,
this
is
a
case
study
and
bad
permitting
advice,
their
the
applicants,
one
of
their
parents,
wanted
to
refurbish
this
into
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
for
them
to
live
in
six
months
out
of
the
year
and
then
recoup
costs
by
renting
it
out
and
they've
seen
a
lot
of
their
neighbors.
Do
it
they
hired
a
permitting
agent.
I
personally
have
not
worked
with
the
person
because
they
hired
us
after
they
realized
they
needed
a
special
use.
Permit.
They
were
not
aware
of
the
process
got
flagged.
They
talked
to
staff.
Q
We've
been
in
contact
with
code
enforcement.
Ms
savino
is
the
attorney
who
we've
been
working
with
and
they
know
where
we
are
in
the
process
it's
kind
of
in
advance.
While
we
go
through
this
process,
so
that's
where
we
are
and
yeah
it
was
unfortunate.
They
did,
they
didn't
know
in
advance.
They
had
to
make
this
application
so.
Q
Q
K
But
before
it
was
tagged,
what
was
it
used
for.
Q
Parents
about
six
months
out
of
the
year,
and
otherwise
I
suppose
whoever
was
in
the
market
and
they're
not
here
today,
and
they
wanted
to
be
here.
Their
daughter
has
coveted.
I
apologize
that
they're
not
here,
because
they
could
better
answer
some
of
these
questions.
For
you,
some
of
these
more
specific
questions,
but
it
is
just
it's
not
an
extended
family
residence.
That's
a
different
type
of
special
use,
it's
an
accessory
dwelling
unit,
so
it
could
be
rented
to
conceivably
anybody.
Q
L
Not
going
to
be
in
any
farm
or
harmful
for
you
or
your
client
or
anyone
else,
but
mr
central's
question,
I
find
it
very
interesting
that
someone's
going
to
live
there
six
months
and
then
they're
going
to
ask
them
to
leave
to
move
their
parents
in
for
six
months
and
that
doesn't
work.
I
mean,
let's
be
realistic,.
Q
Q
L
Q
No,
that's
a
different
respectably,
that's
a
different!
That's
called
an
extended
family
residence.
It's
a
different
channel
under
code
and
you're
not
allowed
to
rent
that
out
to
a
non-family
member.
Make
no
mistake,
we're
not
asking
for
that
and
we're
not
trying
to
get
that
across.
I
would
get
that
through
secretly
we're
asking
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
which
is
permitted
to
be
rented
to
the
public
at
large.
That's
what
we're
asking
for.
It
is
a
different
series
of
permits
and
it's
it's
a
different
standard.
L
O
Kamaria
pettis
knuckle
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
no
councilman,
ryan.
I
don't
know
that
information.
I
don't
know
if
staff
is
aware
if
those
units
are
occupied
or
not,
and
I
don't
believe
the
petitioners
provided
that
information
either.
Q
O
I
made
council
members-
I
I
just
wanted
to
be.
I
don't
know,
if
are
you
done
with
your
presentation?
Yes,
okay.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
to
council
members
attention
a
couple
of
things
that
were
brought
up
during
the
presentation,
the
other
properties
that
may
be
surrounding
the
property
in
question.
That's
asking
for
this
special
use.
N
C
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council,
abby,
philly,
director
of
development
and
growth
management
for
the
city.
Just
would
like
to
clarify
some
of
the
discussion.
That's
happening
up
here
this
morning,
as
you
know,
or
this
afternoon,
we're
continually
facing
our
crisis
of
affordable
housing
and
housing
units,
and
what
I
hear
the
discussion
taking
place
today
is
on
extended
family
residences
versus
adus,
which
are
accessory
dwelling
units.
Those
are
two
different
products.
They
are
both
special
uses.
What's
before
you
this
morning,
on
this
case
is
that
this
is
a
request
for
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
N
N
It
comes
to
you
on
appeal,
that's
where
it
is
today
to
ask
you
for
permission
to
use
that
non-conforming
structure
for
this
use
and
that
that
is
what
is
before
you
so
getting
into
the
kitchens,
and
this
this
is
an
allowed
accessory
dwelling
which
allows
for
a
kitchen
it
allows
for
it
to
be
rented,
so
it
is
different
from
an
extended
family
residence,
but
I
just
want
to
be
on
the
record
clarifying
what's
before
you
today.
Sorry
about
that,
laura.
K
Thank
you,
miss
felia.
I
always
enjoy
your
input
and
I
always
learn
when
you
give
us
your
input.
However,
I
was
looking
for
a
different
subject
when
I
asked
who
was
going
to
be
living
there,
whether
or
not
it's
going
to
be
rent
due
to
a
family
member
or
not
again,
we
are
able
to
have
leases
in
in
this.
The
this
area,
city
of
tampa,
I'm
just
the
type
of
person
that
likes
to
see
extended
leases
instead
of
short-term
understood.
N
Q
Q
I'm
just
I
appreciate
ms
feli's
input,
and
that
is
correct.
It
is
you
know
what
we're
asking
for
is
we're
not
trying
to
sneak
through
an
extended
family
residence
because
we
would
have
gone
that
route.
If
that
was
the
only
thing
we
wanted,
they
wanted
to
do
with
it.
They
do
want
to
rent
it
out,
but
their
parents
also
want
the
flexibility
to
stay
there,
because
you
know
it's
nice
to
be
able
to
do
that,
but
yeah
it's
it's
definitely
going
to
be
a
rental
unit.
Q
So
that's
you
know
we
respectfully
request
just
and
certainly
also
to
clarify.
I
I
said
on
the
record
as
I
was
showing
you.
I
don't
have
the
surveys
for
those
other
properties,
I
don't
have
any
record
of
their
special
use.
Permit
it's
just
kind
of
an
example
of
what
the
surrounding
area
looks
like
and
what
is
frequently
going
on
in
the
neighborhood
and
where
they
got
the
idea.
Frankly,
so
we
respectfully
request
your
consideration
of
this
waiver
and
I
think
it
does
promote.
Q
L
Yes,
I'm
not
opposed
to
somebody
having
a
rental
unit.
I
know
that
in
that
area
there
there's
a
way
of
doing
it
where
you
can
have
a
family
member
in
there
they
do
check
once
a
year
they
check
every
and
that
I'm
all
fine
with
that,
but
once
they
say
it's
a
rental
unit
that
causes
a
lot
of
questions
to
me
in
west
tampa
alone.
L
I
can
tell
you
that
in
a
very
small
area-
and
it
wasn't
so
much
accessory
units
as
they
expanded
the
house
connected
to
the
house
and
sometimes
there's
two
or
three
families
living
in
the
house
in
the
back
and
in
fact
one
of
the
ladies
last
thursday
night
come
to
me
and
asked
me
if
I
could
find
her
a
place
because
she's
renting
an
apartment
inside
of
a
house
so
and
what
happens
there?
L
E
M
G
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
overturn
the
zoning
administrator's
denial
of
special
use,
one
application,
su1
2204
for
the
property
located
at
5710
north
miami
avenue,
because
the
general
standards
set
forth
in
section
27-132
and
27-129
should
be
waived.
L
Mr
carlton
and
I
would
appreciate
I
really
I
agree
with
you.
However,
when
I
look
at
a
criminology
aspect
of
blue
lots
and
we
haven't
done
anything
with
them
either,
then
why
should
I
pick
a
one
when
there's
seven
right?
Next,
not-
and
I
agree
with
you,
sir-
I
really
do.
But
what
am
I
I
tell
myself
now,
I'm
gonna
vote
against
one
and
there's
seven
other
blue
dots
and
we
don't
know
what's
going
on
so
there's
eight
speeders.
Do
I
catch
just
one
or
I
I
don't
know
what
to
do
now.
L
L
G
A
N
A
N
I
I
think
that
that
councilman
miranda
is
correct,
that
this
is
an
issue
that
we
need
to
discuss,
but
from
my
understanding,
we're
having
a
workshop
on
adus
coming
up
soon-
and
I
think
that
goes
along
with
that,
but
with
what's
going
on
in
housing
now
we
do
need
to
find
more
ways
to
allow
housing
and
this
would
be
allowable.
N
It
wouldn't
even
be
here
if
it
hadn't
been
set
back
incorrectly
or
not
incorrectly,
but
just
you
know
different
from
what
our
current
zoning
is.
But
I
don't
disagree
with
you.
I
think
we
need
to
have
that
discussion,
because
we
need
to
find
all
of
those
hidden
units
and
bring
them
on,
and
I
think
we
can
do
that.
But
this
to
me
is
talking
about
doing
it
legally,
getting
all
the
waivers
getting
everything
they
need
and
using
a
property
the
way
they're
allowed
to
use
it.
K
Yes,
sir,
mr
sir,
thank
you
and
and
I'm
hearing
all
conversations
and
I've
heard
conversations
about
this
in
the
past
again
to
councilman
miranda's
point:
why
are
we
picking
out
one
when
there's
eight
others?
What
was
the
reason
why
code
enforcement
was
called
on
this
one?
K
K
L
L
I
just
brought
that
up
to
open
the
scope
of
the
instead
of
looking
through
a
narrow
hole
in
the
wall.
I
want
to
look
through
a
big
telescope,
so
I
can
see
it
all.
A
And
again,
mr
chairman,
martin
shelby
city
council
attorney.
I
just
point
to
the
criteria
that
you
have
been
provided
with
specifically
section
27,
132
and
section
27.
129
and
again
you
are
presented
with
this
particular
set
of
facts,
and
this
is
the
petition
that
you
have
before
you
today.
C
We
have
a
much
from
council
member
carlson
with
the
second
from
councilmember
vieira
roll
call.
A
G
B
C
C
Thank
you
all
right.
We
go
to
staff
reports
and
under
that
I
believe,
item
number
29
because
of
the
amount
at
4.4
million
dollars.
We
had
that
put
under
there's
a
substitute
resolution
on
it
right.
C
The
new
business
all
right-
anybody
here
for
item
number
29.
C
C
G
G
They've,
given
us
a
report
and
presentation,
and
thank
you
to
them
for
doing
that,
my
concern,
which
I
expressed
during
the
cra
meeting,
is
just
that
that
this
is
being
pushed
way
out
in
the
future.
And
the
reason
is
that
the
friends
of
the
tampa
union
station
and
the
city
and
conversations
have
decided
to
seek
grants
for
the
additional
one
and
a
half
million.
And
so
I
spoke
to
miss
travis
and
I
I
would
like
to.
G
That
way,
I
don't
know
if
you
all
saw
the
letter
to
the
editor
in
the
in
the
paper
today,
but
the
mayor's
making
the
argument.
The
same
argument
was
made
a
little
while
ago,
which
is
that
the
cost
of
construction
is
going
up
and
the
estimates
that
we've
gotten
with
tampering
station
are
going
to
go
up.
G
If
we
delay
this
and
they
would
like
to
move
right
away,
and
so
if
we,
if
we
are
able
to
provide
the
funds,
we'll
have
to
vote
on
again
in
cra
also,
but
if
we
provide
these
funds
immediately,
they
can
they
can
do
the
renovation
and
the
building
at
the
same
time,
which
will
save
money
not
only
in
cost
but
also
by
doing
both
at
the
same
time
and
then
we'll
still
be
able
to
get
reimbursed.
K
You
very
much
I
I
am.
I
am
for.
C
H
H
It
was
a
million
dollars.
We
discussed
that
earlier
this
week
there
was
a
million
dollars
put
in
the
budget.
That
item
is
still
there.
I
think
it's
like
at
976
000,
because
there
were
some,
I
don't
know,
study
or
something
that
was
done,
but
there
is
a
million
dollars
there
in
the
budget
right
now
and.
H
K
Can't
correct
you,
yes,
okay,
thank
you
again
that
that
that
has
already
been
a
line
item
in
the
budget.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
G
C
G
The
city
owned
property
and
then
we'll
have
to
vote
on
the
agreement.
That'll
say
that
the
cra
will
will
upfront
the
money,
but
then
the
city
will
reimburse
the
the
cra.
C
A
G
K
A
G
The
I
also
talked
to
miss
travis
about
this.
This
is
for
the
world
war
ii
memorial
and
I
talked
to
jackson,
mcquaig
who's.
He
and
his
father
once
have
helped
save
this
station,
but
jackson's
also
in
the
atlanta
history
center,
and
he
said
that
that
they
put
up
a
world
war
ii
memorial
at
the
atlanta
history
center
and
one
of
the
things
they
did
is
they
set
up
an
a
steering
committee
or
advisory
committee.
I
know
setting
up
an
official
committee
is
complicated,
but
I
wonder
if
this
is.
G
It
would
be
great
if
rob
and
I's
department
could
be
involved
in
this,
but
except
for
the
fact
that
it's
a
city
property,
we
don't,
the
cra,
doesn't
have
to
wait
to
get
this
done.
The
cra
could
go
through
a
process
of
deciding
what
the
statute
should
be.
We
would
if
we
would
go
through
city
purchasing
to
to
hire
an
artist
and
then
the
and
then
that
would
come
back
to
the
cre
board.
G
The
only
thing
that
you
were
really
saying
in
your
document
is
that
we
wouldn't
want
to
put
a
statute
inside
the
building
while
it's
being
renovated,
but
we
don't
know
yet
if
it's
even
going
to
go
inside,
it
could
go
outside
in
front
or
it
could
go
and
back
and-
and
I
think
that
that
process
could
go
concurrently.
If
it
happens
that
it's
supposed
to
go
inside
the
renovation's
not
done,
we
could
always
put
it
somewhere
and
then
there's
storage
area
there
too,
that
we
could
put
it
in.
G
So
my
my
request
would
be
you
know.
I
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
ask
city
staff
to
work
with
cra
staff
and
possibly
the
public
art
committee
or
department
to
set
up
an
ad
hoc
steering
committee
made
up
of
world
war
ii
veterans
to
to
move
this
process
forward
right
away.
R
H
One
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
earlier
is
bringing
also
a
timeline
to
just
show
the
concurrent
path
for
the
art
piece,
as
well
as
the
construction
piece
and
our
the
subsequent
rfps.
Just
so
that
everyone
can
see
the
timeline
and
what
things
can
happen
concurrently
to
move
this
forward
and
councilman.
C
I
I
mean,
I
know
a
few
and
one
in
particular
he's
got
to
be
98
97
and
I
think
he
was
at
union
station
because
he
did
go
to
the
pacific
towards
the
end
of
the
war.
His
brother
was
stationed
at
drew
field,
he
passed
away,
but
I
could
I
could
reach
out
to
a
couple
of
people
that
I
know
that
could
tell
you
us.
You
know
as
an
eyewitness.
You
know
we
were
at
that
train
station
and
maybe.
G
You
could
tell
nicole,
as
interim
cra
person,
but
gary
mourinho
also
has
interviewed
the
world
war
ii
veteran,
so
he
he
offer
to
participate.
C
G
G
C
N
Good
afternoon,
council,
abbey
philly,
director
of
development
and
growth
management,
and
I
do
have
jc
hutchinson
with
me
this
afternoon.
The
building
official
item
number
45
on
your
agenda
this
afternoon
is
a
motion
that
was
from
august
5th,
and
that
was
to
report
on
the
possible
implementation
of
a
process
to
audit
buildings.
N
N
So
at
this
time,
we're
going
to
continue
to
recommend
that
we
look
at
some
other
jurisdictions
and
the
viability
and
enforcement
of
something
potential,
but
just
to
continue
to
keep
a
pulse
on
what
is
going
on
at
the
state
level
in
relation,
because
this
would
really
be
more
of
a
building
code
matter
than
it
would
then
at
the
local
level.
So
that
is
where
we
are
today.
That's
the
memorandum.
We
provided
for
you
an
april
13th
dated
memo
and
we're
here
for
any
questions
you
might
have.
J
G
Commissioner
overman
asked
us
to
look
at
this.
I
I
think
that
she
wanted
something
that
was
consistent
with
what
she
had
proposed
at
the
county.
So
do
you
know
if,
if
we
have
that
now
or.
N
We've
been
watching
what
the
state's
been
doing.
You
know
there
are
other
discussions
that
would
need
to
be
had
in
relationship
to
this.
Some
people
are
looking
at
buildings
over
30
years
in
age.
That
would
be
anything
constructed
from
1992
forward
at
this
time
and
also
the
legal
liability
of
putting
into
place
a
certification
process
that
you
then
go
out.
You
certify
something
or
you
have
another
entity,
certified
engineering,
company
or
whatever,
and
they
come
back.
They
say
something's
wrong.
You
know,
there's
a
lot.
N
J
R
R
So
my
condolences
to
you,
I
was
asked
to
come,
be
appear
before
council
today
on
the
possibility
of
creating
a
complaint
registry
for
landlords,
and
if
you
recall
that
I
my
team,
through
code
enforcement,
we
reported
last
october
when
we
were
asked
to
come
and
create
a
registry
for
landlord
to
realize
what
efficiencies
that
we
could
realize
to
improve.
The
current
program,
if
you
recall
the
rental
certificate
program,
is
one
where
the
landlord
self-certify
that
in
a
test
that
their
units
comply
with
the
minimum
housing
standards,
but
this
is
without
an
expectation
from
code
enforcement.
R
R
So
I
guess
my
questions
to
you
is
we
presented
this
information?
We
said
that
we
will
have
the
online
process
up
and
running
before
the
next
round
of
those
certificates
are
sent
and
we're.
Looking
at
a
june
july
time
frame-
and
we
we're
still
on
track
with
that,
so
my
question
to
you
is:
what
questions
can
I
have
that's
different
than
what
we've
already
presented
and
committed
that
what
what
we
were
going
to
already
do.
N
This,
this
is
an
issue
that
I
think
I
mean
it's
already
a
big
deal,
but
it's
going
to
become
much
larger
with
this
housing
crisis
we
have.
My
concern
is:
how
are
we
finding
the
these
and
I'm
really
thinking
not
even
of
the
of
the
the
ones
that
are
legal
per
se,
but
the
ones
that
people
have
built
out
in
their
garage
or
things
like
that?
What
are
we
doing
to
find
those
and
bringing
them
into
compliance?
R
N
R
Accordingly,
we
do
not
have
a
proactive
process
where
we
go
through
the
neighborhoods
and
look
for
these
situations,
so
they
are
complaint
driving,
okay,.
E
I
guess
I'm
looking
at
another
picture
a
little
bit
because
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
code
enforcement
and
not
having
the
authority
to
deal
with
those
buildings
that
have
four
or
five
editions.
I'm
just
wondering
throwing
out
there
because
you
know
we
have
legislation,
I'm
just
wondering.
If
possible,
we
could
probably
meet
with
someone
with
the
state
and
see
we
maybe
can
get
some
kind
of
mutual
aid
agreement
to
be
able
to
do
some
stuff
that,
obviously
they
don't
have
the
staff.
Do
it
or
don't?
O
Kamaria
pettis
mackel
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
mr
goose,
we'll
we'll
look
into
that
issue.
I
understand
the
concern.
That's
pending
major
issues
that
have
been
brought
forth,
especially
for
the
city,
so
we
will
work
to
see
who
we
can
coordinate
with.
Regarding
that,
we.
J
Anybody
else,
yes,
sir,
so
and
thank
you
again
for
your
presentation,
all
your
hard
work
on
this
so
you're,
looking
at
having
the
new
system
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
up
by
what
june
july
you're
thinking.
Yes,.
Q
R
J
J
Great
you
know,
maybe
we
could
motion
to
have
this
come
back
to
us
in
june
or
july
for
a
a
summary,
an
update
of
what
what's
going
to
be
given
and
to
look
at
additional
options.
I
know
that
other
cities
and
and
jurisdictions
such
as
broward
and
gainesville
have
different
ordinances
that
deal
with
this
issue
as
well,
but
maybe
we
could
just
have
this
just
come
back
to
us
in
in
june.
Does
that
sound
june.
R
16Th,
may
I
make
a
recommendation
since
we're
sending
these
out.
Excuse
me
and
we're
starting
a
new
process.
I
would
like
to
bring
back
how
that's
working
sure.
So
if
we
can
just
push
it
out,
maybe
to
august
we
can
do
june
or
july,
but
I
would
like
to
say:
hey:
the
website
is
working,
it's
not
working.
These
are
some
of
the
occupations.
J
J
It
is
because
we
have
a
lot
of
communities
a
lot
of
underserved
communities
in
tampa
in
these
large
apartments,
where
you
go
and-
and
you
take
a
look
at
them,
as
many
of
us
have
done
them
many
many
times-
whether
it's
silver
oaks
or
timber,
falls
or
other
different
places,
and
and
it's
just
not
habitable,
it's
terrible
and
people
don't
know
their
rights,
their
their
their
either
their
moral,
equitable
rights
and
dignity,
or
their
legal
rights
and
and
whatnot.
C
To
bring
back
an
update
staff
reports
august
25th
second
by
councilwoman
yesterday,
do
you
think.
J
Oh
yes,
noise
ordinance,
of
course,
and
we've
had
a
fine
gentleman
here,
waiting
for
a
while
from
larry
yeah.
Thank
you.
H
Good
afternoon
council,
nicole
travis
administrator
of
development
and
economic
opportunity,
council
members,
you
asked
us
to
put
together
a
public
engagement
plan
in
advancing
the
efforts
to
amend
the
noise
ordinance.
And
what
we're
here
to
present
to
you
today
is
a
rough
outline
of
our
attempt
to
tackle
this
public
engagement
piece.
H
What
we're
planning
to
do
is
schedule
two
public
meetings,
one
in
may
and
one
in
june
and
separate
them
one
for
residents
and
one
for
business
owners.
What
I
put
on
the
overhead
is
just
just
the
same
thing.
I'm
talking
to
you
about
now
is
the
two
meetings,
as
well
as
the
there's,
a
private
citizen
group
working
group
that
would
like
to
that's
consists
of
both
the
residential.
H
This
is
the
same
thing
here,
but
as
far
as
the
engagement
in
putting
this
meeting
together
so
we'll
have
two
public
meetings,
one
for
business
owners
and
one
for
residents
that
we
will
help
hold
in
may
and
in
june,
concurrently.
There's
a
private
citizens
group
that
I
know
has
reached
out
to
a
number
of
views
that
consist
of
it's
a
developer
that
has
put
this
group
together,
businesses
and
residential.
H
H
H
As
a
part
of
this
workshop.
We
it's
really
not
necessarily
to
continue,
but
to
consolidate
the
effort
in
the
area.
The
private
citizen
work
group
again
will
run
concurrently
and
independently
from
our
two
public
meetings
and
we're
requesting
that
we
present
our
findings
and
recommendations,
or
that
this
private
citizen
group
present
their
recommendations
and
we'll
present
our
findings
from
these
public
engagement
meetings.
At
an
october,
22
27
2022
workshop
councilwoman.
N
H
All
fairness:
we've
had
four
five
public
workshops
before
this
okay,
so
we
had
so
so
before
I
even
was
here
councilman
her
attack.
There
were
a
series
of
public
engagement
meetings
with
the
specific
business
districts
and
residents
in
the
area,
and
I
think
there
were
a
total
of
five
public
outreach
meetings.
Then
there
was
a
public
workshop.
We
developed
recommendations.
H
Council
then
approved
an
ordinance
that
had
those
recommendations
they
repealed
it
and
wanted
us
to
get
back
in
so
there's
been
a
certain
level
of
outreach
and
I
could
provide
you
minutes
from
those
meetings
and
the
notes
as
well,
but
that's
why
we
were
thinking
of
separating
businesses
and
residents
and
I
do
agree.
This
is
a
huge
undertaking.
N
People
heard:
oh,
it's
being
repealed,
so
everyone
thinks
okay,
we're
starting
from
scratch
and
I'm
just
letting
you
know
that
that's
going
to
be
the
overlying
feeling
and
then
I'm
going
to
tell
you
right
now.
People
are
not
going
to
think
one
meeting
is
going
to
be
enough.
So
agree.
I
mean
good
luck
on
that,
but
I
would
I
would
encourage
more
than
one.
H
We
just
don't
have
any
clear
direction
from
council
on
which
amendments
you
would
like
us
to
pre,
to
present
to
the
residents
and
to
the
commercial
business
owners,
and
so
this
outreach
is
really
to
listen
to
them.
Take
notes
on
what
were
the
common
themes
percent
that
present
that
back
to
you
at
that
october
workshop.
While
we
have
the
private
citizen
group,
they
will
present
recommendations.
H
I
we've
spoken
to
the
developer
that
has
organized
that
group
and
think
that
that
is
a
reasonable
amount
of
time
for
them
to
have
their
meetings
and
present
recommendations,
and
then
we
were
thinking
at
the
workshop.
This
would
be
a
working
session
between
staff
and
council
and
based
on
what
the
findings
are.
You
hear
from
the
private
group
we
can
develop
recommendations
together
that
we
can
then
put
in
the
ordinance
to
move
forward.
E
In
theory,
it
sounds
good,
but
in
reality
that
I
don't
know
that's
going
to
work
I'll,
tell
you
why
you
know.
Sometimes
you
have
to
spend
money
to
get
the
results.
You
really
need.
I
think
that
your
communications
department
needs
to
spend
money
to
advertise
tv
and
radio,
so
people
can
know
what's
happening.
E
I
think
that
you
need
to
have
maybe
an
outsource
plate
person
to
do
this
or
company
to
do
this
work
to
do
the
workshops
to
do
to
do
this
engagement.
This
story's
always
is
a
big
deal,
big
thing
with
the
people.
You
just
said
it's
a
big
undertaking,
so
why
undertake
something
that
it
could
take
longer
to
do
versus
just
go
ahead?
Spend
the
money
ask
this
council
for
the
money
to
cause
to
engage
the
community
as
a
whole.
E
H
I
don't
disagree
councilman
goods,
which
is
why
we
had
recommendations
and
council
approved
an
ordinance,
and
then
this
council
repealed
the
ordinance,
and
so
what
the?
What
I'm
proposing
to
you,
I
think,
is
the
quickest
way
for
us
to
get
some
resolution.
If
we
were
to
engage
someone,
I
am,
I
always
accept
help
when
we
need
help,
but
I
also
believe
that
the
procurement
and
getting
some
someone
on
board
and
doing
that
is
going
to
take
longer
than
that.
We've
done
not.
We
staff.
H
This
council
has
done
a
lot
of
leg
work
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
on
this
issue
through
engagement,
and
we
know
the
five
issues
that
came
back
to
council
were
common
themes.
They
you
know
they
were
the
definitions,
that's
in
the
ordinance
a
lot
of
things,
they're,
reoccurring
themes,
enforcement
was
a
big
part,
which
is
why
we
brought
those
five
recommendations
back
and
so.
E
H
E
H
I
think
we
absolutely
have
it
in
the
budget
for
us
to
do
to
extend
our
outreach
just
beyond
facebook,
even
if
we
did
paid
ads
or
I
think
we
definitely
can
push
our
outreach
efforts,
and
I
can
report
back
to
you
what
we
did
to
enhance
our
outreach
efforts.
We
definitely
can
absorb
that
and
do
that
in
the
budget.
Now,
with
the
plan
that
I'm
proposing
to
you
right
now,
my
friend
is
here
shoulder
to
shoulder
with
me
and
he's
been
waiting
patiently
to
speak.
N
Susan
johnsonville
is
senior
assistant
city
attorney
council.
I
I
think
you
know
what
ms
travis
is
trying
to
explain
is
that
if
you
recall
you
know,
we
went
through
a
series
of
workshops
and
discussions
with
the
prior
amendments
to
the
noise
ordinance,
and
I
think
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
with
the
public
engagement
plan
is
to
try
to
focus
the
discussion
not
to
create
wholesale
rewrite
of
the
noise
ordinance
amendments.
K
Council
member
cedric,
thank
you
very
much.
The
original
ordinance
was
because
I
had
heard
from
so
many
constituents
that
bars
and
restaurants
were
starting
to
encroach
in
the
neighborhoods.
You
would
have
amplified
sound
coming
out
of
a
patio
area
where
the
patio
was
abutting,
some
residents
and
the
music
was
going
on
until
two
or
three
o'clock
in
the
morning,
and
I
understand
that
I
was
hoping
that
this
ordinance
would
have
a
blanket
effect
throughout
the
whole
city
and
that
we
could
then
carve
out
sections
that
were
classified
as
entertainment
districts.
K
K
K
Residential
areas,
there
are
entertainment
districts
and
now
we're
seeing
the
mixed
use
where
people
are
saying,
wait
a
second.
I
gotta
get
up
at
six
o'clock
in
the
morning
seven
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
these
this,
this
music
is
still
blaring
at
one
or
two
o'clock
at
night.
So
I
yet
this
was
well
on
its
way
before
there
was
a
change
of
heart
and
you're
correct.
There
was
two
different
meetings
with
the
public
about
this.
K
We
repealed
it
that
set
us
back,
but
I
thank
you
for
the
hard
work
you're
doing
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
to
what
you
have
found
out.
G
One
of
the
things
I
did
professionally
before
I
took
this
position
was
public
engagement.
So
if
you
all
want
to
talk
about
what
I'm
happy
to
talk
about,
but
one
of
the
things
I
would
recommend
is
because
of
the
long
timeline.
Let's
proceed
with
what
you
have,
but
it's
a
it's
a
multi-round
thing:
we've
got
it:
we've
got
to
keep
adapting
it
and
we've
got
a
lot
of
consensus
around
some
things,
but
we
that's
why
I
voted
to
keep
the
last
ordinance
because
I
wanted
to
do
something,
but
we
undid
it.
So
we
needed.
G
We
need
to
keep
doing
something.
It
doesn't
mean
that
we're
finished
we'll
just
keep
working
on
it,
and
I
think
you
should
at
least
do
it
by
district,
eventually
and
and
and
maybe
even
sub-districts
like
in
orlando's
district
he's
got
like
parts
of
I
think,
tampa
high
seminole
heights
and
then
and
then
ebor
and
east,
hampton
so
they're
they're,
very
different
areas
in
downtown
which
are
very,
very
different
and-
and
so
I
think
each
one
has
its
own
unique
areas.
The
next
thing
is,
I
please
be
careful
with
the
term
entertainment
district.
G
There
are
areas
where
there's
entertainment,
but
I
wouldn't
call
any
of
them:
entertainment
districts
and
if
I
my
office,
my
other
office
is
in
eboor,
I'm
in
ebore
every
day
and
I'm
having
conversations
with
leaders
and
other
people
in
hebrew,
and
there
is
a
group
of
people
who
run
the
the
dance,
clubs
and
nightclubs
and
allow-
and
we
need
that
and
and
we
there
and
some
and
we
need
it
in
other
places
too,
but
just
about
anybody.
You
ask
an
e-board
today.
G
Their
vision
for
e-board
is
not
to
be
a
quote-unquote
entertainment
district.
That
was
a
90s
vision,
as
ms
miranda
said,
ebor
has
always
had
entertainment,
but
turning
it
into
a
late
night
bar
district,
especially
with
their
shootings
after
three
o'clock,
which
happened
just
last
week
and
again,
is
not
the
vision
that
people
have
for
e-board,
and
so
we
and
then,
as
we
get
a
few
thousand
more
people
moving
to
ebor
with
all
the
new
units
coming
online.
It's
going
to
the
vision
is
going
to
be
completely
different,
and
so
I
would
just
be
sensitive.
G
We
want.
We
want
to
not
hurt
any
of
the
businesses
that
are
there,
but,
as
the
landlords
start
to
transition
the
uses
of
those
buildings
which
they're
going
to
do,
we
need
to
be
sensitive
to
all
the
residents
there.
We
need
to
have
that
combination.
We
have
urban
areas
that
are
going
to
have
offices
and
entertainment
restaurants,
but
it
doesn't
mean
they're,
an
entertainment,
district
and,
and
my
big
star,
please
put
a
huge
star.
Please
do
not
ever
call
south
howard,
an
entertainment
district
that
my
my
grassroots
neighborhood
work
came
from
there.
G
This
group,
I
created
catholic
on
tampa,
used
to
meet
on
hugo's
and
the
whole
purpose
of
it
initially
was
to
push
back
against
the
bars
and
the
neighborhoods
lost,
but
but
I
get
calls
almost
every
day
of
angry
people.
If
we
had
a
meeting
where
we
called
south
howard,
an
entertainment
district
we'd
have
500
people
here,
really
really
mad.
They
want
the
bar
shut
down.
G
Now,
there's
some
that
have
been
there
for
a
long
time,
but
but
they're
and
there's
some
good
actors
and
bad
actors,
but
they
would
love
to
turn
it
into
something
like
a
culinary
district,
where
you
know,
you've
got
burns
on
one
end
and
you've
got
crazy
party
places.
On
the
other
end,
and
and
eventually
it's
going
to
transition
to
something-
that's
not
four
o'clock
in
the
morning
partying
and
throwing
stuff
all
over
the
place,
and
that
has
to
go
somewhere.
I
had
asked
the
question:
could
it
go
in
drew
park
drew
park?
G
People
said
no,
but
it's
got
it.
We
need
an
outlet
for
that,
but
it
can't
be
in
the
middle
of
a
residential
neighborhood,
and
I
remember
in
the
90s,
when
john
agrees
sat
in
front
of
some
of
those
retail
places
and
was
looking
to
convert
them
to
restaurants.
People
were
looking
at
what.
How
could
we
activate
along
all
along
there
used
to
be
a
hardware
store
there
and
a
dry,
cleaner
and
other
kinds
of
uses,
but
now
now
there's
bars
that
are
parting
late
at
night.
G
So
we
need
to
really
carefully
look
at
that
and-
and
I
I
think,
figure
out
in
particular
how
to
solve
the
south
howard
problem,
because
it's
not
acceptable
the
way
it
is
right
now
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is:
I
forgot
what
we
did
with
cars,
but
a
lot
of
the
biggest
complaints
we
get
in
neighborhoods
is
cars
where
people
are
offering
to
the
public
free,
loud
music
and
the
neighborhoods.
Don't
want
it.
G
K
J
E
F
E
All
right,
I
want
you
to
tell
these
fine
council
members
how
how
how
do
we
stop
loud
cards
with
sound
cause?
I
I
I
never
was
able
to
figure
that
out,
but
just
maybe
writing
the
ticket,
because
that's
that's
a
hard
tap.
If
you
have
an
idea,
tell
me
how
we
can
stop
that.
M
It's
a
difficult
challenge
and
we're
facing
it
across
the
city.
Obviously
downtown
channel
district
e
war
soho
it
happens
everywhere.
We
follow
them
around.
We
write
tickets,
it's
just
one
of
those
things
just
seems
to
be
a
reoccurring
thing
and
I'm
aware
of
mr
daniels
and
his
issues
in
his
neighborhood.
So
we're
working
on.
It's
just
not
an
easy
feat
to
fix
when
they
sell
speakers
every
day.
Every.
J
Yes,
I
was
going
to
say:
is
there
anything
that
we
need
to
do
motion
wise
to
bring
this
back
or.
J
N
Next
step,
I
guess
yes,
susan
johnsonville
as
legal
department,
so
I
just
want
to
make
a
couple
of
couple
of
comments,
so
the
entertainment
districts
again.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
reference
to
that.
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
couple
of
areas
where
there
are
concentrations
of
entertainment
venues,
but
currently
the
city
code
does
not
define
any
area,
in
particular
as
an
entertainment
district.
So
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we'd
like
to
again
there's
there's
a
motion.
I
believe
councilman
carlson
made
it
there's
an
item
to
come
back.
N
It's
scheduled
to
come
back
to
council
on
your
may
workshop
agenda
to
discuss
establishment
of
entertainment,
districts
or
figure
out
where
would
be
appropriate
in
the
city.
So
we
would
ask
you
to
remove
that
from
your
workshop
agenda
and
continue
that
item
to
the
october
workshop
that
we
have
suggested
to
bring
back
all
of
these
items
and
then.
N
Right
and
then,
and
then,
if,
if
you
all
would
like
to
have
you
know
certain
areas
designated
as
entertainment
districts
are
you
also
asking
us
to?
You
know,
have
separate
regulations
that
would
govern
them
and
as
far
as
noise
or
other
aspects
of
these
entertainment
districts,
because
because
there
are
other
jurisdictions
in
the
state
that
do
define
you
know,
miami
is
one
area
or
the
city
of
orlando,
I
know,
has
entertainment
districts,
but
they
they
treat
those
areas
differently
in
certain
aspects.
So
is
that
something
that
you
would
also
like.
C
C
K
And
if,
if
we
are
going
to
go
the
direction
of
of
of
entertainment
districts,
we're
going
to
have
to
define
those
districts
we're
going
to
have
to
have
permanent
boundaries
because
I'd
hate
to
see
four
or
five
years
from
now,
a
person
wanted
to
open
a
bar
or
something-
and
they
say
oh
wait
a
second
across
the
street-
they
can
have
it.
How
come
I
can't
so
those
those
areas
are
going
to
have
to
be
very,
very
strict.
N
And
that's
why
I
wanted.
I
wanted
to
caution
against
you
know
calling
areas,
entertainment,
districts
right
now,
the
way
the
eboor
city,
historic
district
is
defined
and,
as
you
as
council
may
recall,
that's
one
of
the
areas
where
noise
is
measured
on
a
decimal
level,
but
it's
not
just
the
seventh
avenue
strip
or
you
know,
eighth
avenue.
It
goes
all
the
way
north
of
I-4.
It
goes
well
east
of
22nd
avenue,
so
I
mean
we
have
to
be
careful
about.
N
You
know
what
we're
what
terms
we're
using
it
at
this
point,
and
so
part
of
our
effort
we
wanted
to
include
was
to
figure
out
where
the
boundaries
are,
and
I
know
that
we've
talked
to
tpd
about
having,
rather
than
you
know,
a
legal
description
boundary
where
you
know
we
give
degrees
and
things
like
that
to
actually
have
a
graphic
representation,
so
that
makes
it
easier
for
tpd
to
identify.
You
know
where
the
boundaries
are
and
makes
enforcement
enhances,
enforcement
for
them
and.
K
C
So,
do
you
have
a
motion
that
that
would
have
to
be
councilman
carlson.
G
N
That's
all
that's
we're
going
to
proceed
with
the
plan
as
ms
travis
outlined,
and
then
I
just
also
want
to
remind
council
that
you
know
when
we
brought
forward
the
prior
noise
ordinance
amendments.
I
mean
we
came
to
you
at
a
workshop.
We
then
incorporated
those
the
recommendations
that
council
approved
into
an
ordinance,
which
we
then
brought
back
to
you
at
another
workshop.
So
there
will
be
ample
opportunity
for
public
engagement
as
we
proceed
through
the
process.
It
won't
just
be
these
two
public
engagement
meetings
we'll
be
having
in
the
next
couple
of
months.
G
G
K
Yeah
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
helping
ybor
city
for
all
this
time,
making
it
a
great
residential
and
retail
section
of
our
city.
Thank
you.
Chad.
Welcome
all.
C
Are
we
good
with
five
council
members
listening
to
those
last
two
items
or
perhaps
postponing
them
to
the
end
of
next
week's
workshop?
Because
I
see
there's
a
may
2nd
deadline
here?
What
do
you
think
miss
philly?
Do
you
have
both
items
or
just
52.
N
Abby
feely,
director
of
development
and
growth
management.
We
only
have
item
52
and
that
does
require
transmittal
to
the
state
for
that
funding
by
may
2nd.
So
I
would
ask
we
have
a
very
brief
presentation.
It's
about
eight
slides
and
we
plan
to
keep
it
free
and.
C
D
H
S
C
D
S
Good
afternoon
council
carl
brody
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
I'm
here
to
report
back
to
you
on
the
request
to
provide
some
options
for
creating
a
second
chance
or
ban
the
box
ordinance.
What
we
did
in
the
office
was
check
across
the
country
and
check
through
the
state
to
determine
what
are
the
viability
of
different
available
ban,
the
box
ordinances.
S
What
we
found
was,
after
doing
some
internal
research
first,
to
make
sure
that
we
felt
comfortable
that
if
we
received
any
challenge
to
it,
we'd
be
able
to
survive
that
we
felt
comfortable
with
that,
because
we
on
a
court
level
determined
that
it
would
be
any
challenge,
would
be
just
have
to
survive
a
reasonable
standard,
which
means
we
would
just
have
to
get
enough
support
predicate
as
they
say,
to
support
the
decision
to
have
an
abandoned
box
ordinance
for
the
city
and
that
you
know
that
the
the
support
we
have
would
be
sufficient
to
address
the
problem,
which
is
what
the
what
we
discussed
earlier
today
when
we
had
the
groups
up
here
to
discuss
the
the
different
problems
that
arise
from
ex-offenders,
not
being
able
to
define
sufficient
employment.
S
So
we
felt
comfortable
with
that.
We
looked
around
the
state
and
we
saw
that
really.
There's
several
municipalities
and
other
local
governments
do
have
provisions
most
of
them.
Don't
have
them
in
their
ordinances.
A
lot
of
them
do
them
through
hr
and
do
them
through
other
manners,
but
the
primary
comparables
that
we
found
were
in
broward
county
in
miami
beach
and
in
jacksonville
jacksonville
yep.
So
we
saw
those
three.
S
S
We
also
have
penalties
where
we
would,
let's
see,
department,
non-responsive
bids.
So
if
part
of
the
bid
was
did
not
include
assurance
that
they
were
going
to
comply
with
the
city's
ban,
the
box
requirements,
then
they
would
be
deemed
non-responsive,
which
means
their
bid
would
not
go
forward,
and
we
also
can
withhold
payment
for
non-compliance
separately.
S
If
we
wanted
to
include
a
point
system,
we
could
do
that
and
that
would
be
to
add
points
under
the
rfp
or
ccna
process.
So
those
are
kind
of
our
options
out
there
in
terms
of
moving
forward
with
some
kind
of
ordinance
to
further
enforce
what
we
already
have
in
place,
because
we
do
have
some
provisions
in
place,
particularly
when
we
talk
about
the
city
of
tampa
as
an
employer.
We
don't
the
city
of
the
tampa
itself,
does
not
do
a
background
track
until
after
a
person
has
been
deemed
a
finalist
for
the
position.
S
C
Very
good
councilman
goods,
councilmember.
E
I
I
talked
to
mr
bennett
on
yesterday
about
this,
and
you
know
I've
seen
band
in
the
box
a
long
time
and
if,
if
you
have
good
people
that
are
making
it
work,
it
works
with
nine
times.
E
It
usually
doesn't
work
because,
as
soon
as
a
person
comes
in
their
ass
getting
their
applications
in
the
trash
and
they
never
move
forward
to
a
final
process
at
factual,
I've
seen
it
happen
plenty
of
times,
but
I
believe
that
some
of
the
problems
you're
talking
about
putting
this
ordinance
together
and
making
demanding
for
the
contracts
that
we're
going
to
use
or
possibly
use
you
you've
got
to
give
them
some
assurance
to
go
along
with
that
correct
and
because
nine
times
in
most
of
those
entities
they're
being
told
by
their
carriers.
Don't
do
that.
E
That's
where
you're
going
to
run
to
a
lot
of
different
issues
with
we
want
to
help.
So
I
think
what
mr
bennett
was
talking
about.
Hopefully
we
can
go
back
and
research
that
to
incorporate
with
that,
to
where
we
can
be
able
to
look
and
see.
Where
is
their
insurance
policy
at
the
where's,
our
bond
system,
to
where
we
can
help
that
contract
or
whoever?
Whatever
we're
doing
that
they're
going
to
help
us
get
people
employed
to
be
able
to
get
them
employed
through
the
process?
E
So
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
go
back
and
kind
of
research
that
and
that
way
we'll
be
able
to
help
some
of
these
folks,
because
that's
going
to
be
our
challenge,
I'm
just
being
honest.
That
is
going
to
be
the
big
challenge.
We
talk
about
contractors
and
people
want
to
hire
people
or
put
band
in
the
box
on
there.
What
you're
going
to
find
is
you're
going
to
find
this.
Our
carrier
says
no,
but
we
can't
do
this
next.
E
S
That's
something
we
can
look
into
it's
it's.
I
have
to
say,
that's
not
something
the
other
comparables
from
terrible
orders.
E
J
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work,
and
I
I
came
to
I
guess
it
was
a
chief
bennett
and
then
brad
baird
on
this
issue,
maybe
eight
nine
seven
eight
nine
months
ago
on
it
to
begin
this
process,
and
we
have
a
really
good
coalition
of
people
who
support
these
proposals,
including
the
florida
rights
restoration
coalition,
the
jcc
federation,
our
friends
in
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
and
reverend
a
brown
ministries
that
have
been
doing
this
for
for
so
very
long.
You
know
nationally.
J
We
have
about
three
quarters
of
a
million
americans
who
are
released
from
incarceration
every
year
and
stats
show
that
about
two-thirds
of
those
folks
are
returning
to
prison
or
re-arrested
within
three
years.
So
you
know,
I
think
that
it's
on
local
governments
to
do
what
we
can
to
help
address
this
crisis,
for
our
families,
for
our
communities,
the
the
results
of
broken
families
and
violent
crime,
and
so
many
different
things.
I
know
chief
bennett
spoke
from
the
heart
on
the
many
things
that
he
has
done.
J
I
know
that
he's
taken
steps
in
this
administration
to
to
increase
recruitment
and
and
have
a
broader
picture
for
for
returning
citizens.
So
you
know
what
I'm
going
to
be
motioning
for
is
of
a
few
things
which
is
number
one.
J
I
want
an
ordinance
to
come
back
from
us
for
us
that
has
contractors
given
additional
points
through
encouragement
to
number
one
ban,
the
box,
but
number
two
and
I'll
leave
this
to
y'all
when
it
comes
to
the
specifics
on
a
commitment
on
on
hiring
returning
citizens-
and
I
think
what's
important
in
that-
and
I
want
to
specify
this
is
not
because
I
spoke
to
florida
rights,
restoration
coalition
on
this,
and
they
gave
me
a
very
good
pointer,
which
is
it's
not
hiring
on
the
front
end,
but
but
making
sure
that
they
they
stay
with
them
and
verifying
that
towards
the
end.
J
So
they
don't
just
hire
them,
then
let
them
go
and
it
was
great.
We
hired
them
now
we're
going
to
let
them
go.
We
don't
want
that
number
two
is.
I
want
something
to
come
back
because
I
know
chief
bennett's
worked
on
this
and
I
think
it's
something
that
we
ought
to
promote
as
a
city
that
we're
doing
internally,
which
is
to
report
annually
on
the
number
of
hired
returning
citizens
by
the
city
of
tampa,
and
that
can
be
separate
that
I
don't
think
that
needs
to
be
part
of
an
ordinance.
J
But
I
think
that's
very
important.
Then.
The
third
part
is
that
is
not
part
of
an
ordinance.
But
I've
been
working
with
a
county
commissioner
of
gwen
myers
and
hillsborough
county
commission
on
a
joint
city
county,
either
apprenticeship,
and
if
it's
apprenticeship,
obviously
state
certified
apprenticeship
or
training
program
for
returning
citizens,
it
can
either
be
a
grant
for
a
program
like
ready
for
work,
the
secular
arm
of
abraham
ministries.
It
can
be
a
separate
program,
commissioner
myers
is
seeking.
I
believe
it
is
about
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
S
I
was
to
say:
we've
been
in
contact
with
the
at
least
the
county
attorney's
office
on
that
so
there's
some
preliminary
discussions
there,
but
that
is
that
was
part
of
your
motion.
We
may
we
are
definitely
moving
forward
with
that,
but
you
know
it's
going
to
take
the
coordination
between
both
of
us.
So
yes,.
J
Sir,
and
and
and
the
reason
that
I'm
doing
this
as
a
test
pilot
by
starting
by
going
on
first
base,
is
that
I
want
to
you
know,
win
the
confidence
of
taxpayers
on
this
issue.
I
want
to
get
this
issue
into
the
mainstream
100
percent.
This
is
not
an
issue
that
is
left
or
right.
This
is
an
issue
that
affects
all
of
our
families
and
we
have
to
give
up
to
the
extent
that
we
have
it.
I've
certainly
had
it
in
my
life,
the
hypocrisy
and
the
bias
against
returning
citizens.
J
It's
ugly,
it's
un-american,
in
my
opinion,
it's
unchristian
so
that
that
would
be
my
motion.
I
don't
know.
I
guess
I
should
separate
into
a
few
motions
so
first
and
man.
Mr
chairman,
yes,
sir,
thank
you
first,
I
would
motion
for
an
ordinance.
How
long
do
you
all
need
on
that.
J
July
14th,
because
there
you
go
break
period.
Yes.
Thank
you,
sir.
I
would
motion
that
staff
come
back
with
a
draft
ordinance
on
encouragement
of
contractors
to
number
one
higher
returning
citizens
and
number
two
to
ban
the
box
on
that.
That
would
be
my
first
motion.
M
J
S
E
Have
an
of
assurance:
their
carrier
might
not
cover
them,
but
maybe
we've
had
something
we
can
be
able
to
cover
and
why
they
do
that.
So
you
can
incorporate
it
or
see
how
we
can
do
that.
I
don't
know
how
long
that
would
take
you
to
research
their
car,
but
I
think
that's
that's
going
to
be
a
key
component
to
keeping
them
on
the
job.
Let's
say:
okay,
we're
going
to
do
this,
but
I'm
going
to
fire
you
in
two
days
or
a
week
and
yeah
you're
gone
and
then
you
know
everybody
knows
about
it.
S
And
there's
some
options
we
can
look
in
to
on
that
end.
We
have
to
be
careful
because
this
is
providing
public
funds
to
a
private
entity,
not
for
a
service
which
is
different
than
when
we're.
E
They're
providing
to
them,
I
think
maybe
the
city
has
a
window
to
where
we
say.
Well,
if
you,
if
you're
going
to
participate,
you
can
be
a
part
of
that
window
and
that
way
you
know
we
we
can
separate
the
two
for
state
versus
that
entity.
So
I
just
think
it's
something
you
just
look
at
on
both
ends
feasibility.
S
J
J
J
Sir,
and
again,
with
with
the
feasibility
that
councilman
goodes
put
in
there
incorporated,
so
we
can
investigate
that
in
sixty
right,
we'll
incorporate
something
and
that's
my
first
motion.
Yes,
ma'am.
O
L
S
J
First
reading
and
then
second,
if
I
may-
and
I
can
combine
these
all-
which
is
number
one
motion
to
have
annual
reporting
by
the
city-
and
we
can
have
that
to
come
up
august
25th,
that's
fine!
There
you
go
august,
25th
and
then
every
august
thereafter,
so
that
on
on
the
number
of
returning
citizens
that
the
city
is
hiring.
So
that's
my
second
motion.
J
J
Then
third,
and
thank
you
for
that
council
and
then
third
would
be
for
to
request
that
the
administration
appropriate
up
to
150
000,
to
match
the
county's
test,
pilot
investment
for
apprenticeship
and
or
training
program
and
or
grant
for
returning
citizens.
This
would
be,
I
believe,
the
first
of
its
kind
here
in
the
in
the
local
area
that
is
specifically
geared
towards
this
population
to
equip
them
with
the
tools
that
they
need
to
help
put
food
on
the
table
for
their
families.
Second,.
J
And
if
I
may
may
I
have
that
come
back
to
us
in
august
august
august.
C
J
C
B
Good
afternoon,
council
keon
henderson
manager
for
housing
and
community
development
division
just
coming
before
you
to
talk
about
our
lhap,
which
is
our
local
housing
assistance
plan
with
our
state
funding
under
your
administration,
have
always
tried
to
come
before
you
just
with
some
transparency,
so
just
want
to
talk
about
the
plan
that
we're
getting
ready
to
submit.
B
So
as
we
go
to
the
next
to
the
second
slide,
just
a
little
bit
about
what
we'll
discuss
today
is
just
the
background
of
what
that
lhap
is.
What
that
purpose
is
the
funding
source
that
really
governs
our
lhap
just
what
those
strategies
look
like
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
public
input
that
we've
been
able
to
get
so
our
l-hat
very
similar
to
how
we
have
our
action
plan
for
our
federal
dollars.
Our
lhap
is
governed
with
our
ship
dollars,
which
is
a
state
housing
initiative
partnership
program.
B
Each
municipality
has
to
submit
that
lhap.
It's
governs
three
years
our
fiscal
year
for
the
ship
funding
is
from
july
1st
to
june
30th,
and
so
the
lhap
that's
been
presented
to
be
submitted
on
may
2nd
of
this
year
is
going
to
govern.
Fy
23
all
the
way
to
fy
25
and
the
lhap
is
going
to
detail
really
how
we
plan
to
spend
these
funds
for
the
next
three
fiscal
years.
B
This
is
lengthy,
but
the
creation
of
the
l,
half
really
is
the
purpose
to
meet
the
housing
needs
for
those
who
are
very
low,
low
and
moderate
income
household
to
expand
the
production
of
affordable
housing.
The
state
funds
are
the
only
funds
that
we
really
have
that
allows
us
to
go
up
to
the
140
percent
area
median
income.
B
So,
as
we
present
our
lhap,
it's
really
important
for
us
to
really
be
specific
on
the
programs
and
the
strategies
that
we
create,
so
that
we
can
really
address
all
those
from
very
low
all
the
way
to
moderate
income
households.
B
B
Florida
housing
coalition-
that's
the
agency
that
governs
the
ship
dollars
our
state
funds,
and
so
I've
just
listed
a
few
eligible
activities.
It
can
be
home
ownership
activities,
construction
activities
as
well
as
admin.
So
when
we
fund
the
different
municipal
sub-recipients,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
also
putting
some
admin
dollars
in
it
has
home
ownership
activities,
and
so
once
we
break
that
down
in
our
lhab,
it
can
be
anything
from
foreclosure
prevention
and
it
could
also
be
a
first-time
homebuyer
program.
B
When
we
develop
the
strategies,
we
really
try
to
make
it
a
straightforward
approach,
something
that's
really
easy
to
read:
the
strategies
are
not
likely
if
we
don't
put
them
in
the
lhap,
we're
not
likely
to
be
able
to
fund
them
for
the
upcoming
year.
So,
as
we
put
the
different
proposals
out
and
expect
for
the
sub-recipients
to
respond
to
those,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
the
l-half
really
spelled
out.
It
puts
what
the
loan
term
is.
If
we're
going
to
put
a
lien
on
that
home.
B
B
The
next
slide
will
show
just
really
what
we've
started
to
do
so.
The
draft
lhap
we
presented
that
to
our
affordable
housing
advisory
council,
which
is
our
ahab
committee
on
february
16,
just
to
get
some
input
from
them.
Also,
just
looking
at
that
draft,
we
did
have
two
public
input
sessions
in
person
meetings.
We
did
one
in
the
morning
and
we
did
one
in
the
afternoon
just
to
make
sure
that
we
gave
variant
times
for
people
to
attend.
B
N
I'm
curious
if
the
home
ownership
activities
for
this
cycle
include
the
possibility
of
assistance
with
the
increase
in
property
taxes
and
those
types
of
things
for
low-income
homeowners.
No,
not.
N
Yeah
I
mean
it
just
came
up
recently
as
something
that
people
are
going
to
struggle
with,
but
I
know
that
well
I
mean
I
know
your
plan
is
already
put
together,
but
definitely
for
a
future
plan.
I
think
that
we're
going
to
have
to
look
at
and.
B
B
N
Yeah
that
I
would
I
would
love
to
see
like
what
the
feasibility
is,
because
that's
what
I'm
hearing
from
the
community,
those
who
are
on
fixed
incomes
are
really
I
mean,
even
though
it's
only
going
to
be
three
percent.
It's
three
percent.
It's
it's
the
highest
that
we've
had
in
recent
memory,
so
some
of
those
people
just
aren't
sure
how
they're
going
to
pay
for
that,
because
they're
living
on
their
social
security
and
things
like
that.
So
thanks.
L
D
Thank
you,
council,
I'm
bringing
forth
today
our
report
on
the
opportunity
zone,
prospectus
and
market
plan,
and
this
portion
of
it
is
we've
completed
the
market
report,
which
is
happening
right
before
christmas.
We've
completed
this
prospectus
and
we've
been
building
the
website
to
be
a
resource
for
people
that
are
going
to
invest
in
our
opportunity
zones.
D
I
have
gai
consultants
online
here,
they're,
going
to
give
you
a
brief
report
on
that
and
then
ask
for
some
input
about
how
you
feel
about
some
of
the
ideas
about
using
this
tool
and
how
we
promote
this
tool
because
that's
the
third
component
of
our
contract-
and
this
is
the
very
last
piece
so
love
to
hear
your
input
and
can
we
get
laura
smith
online?
Please
yep
she's
on
go.
C
P
Hi
everyone:
how
are
you
doing
today?
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
hanging
on
and
letting
us
present
to
you
this
afternoon.
I
know
you've
had
a
bit
of
a
day,
so
we're
gonna
try
to
go
through
this
in
a
pretty
quick
fashion
so
that
we
can
get
through
everything.
Do
I
need
to
share
the
presentation
from
my
screen.
P
C
All
right
just
we'll
make
it
bigger
there
and
we
can
see
it.
P
Shows
the
process
and
deliverables
okay.
So
first
of
all
my
name
is
laura
smith.
I'm
with
gai's
community
solutions.
Group
and
I've
been
leading
your
market
report
and
opportunity
zone
prospectus
effort
along
with
beau
kemp
who's
with
the
fluent
group,
and
he
was
on
our
team.
We
were
selected
in
the
rfp
process
to
do
this
work
for
you
all
and
we
are
getting
pretty
close
to
the
end.
So
what
I
wanted
to
do
quickly
is
sort
of
walk
you
through
what
we've
done
thus
far,
where
we
stand
now
and
what
our
next
steps
are.
P
So
first
of
all,
this
project
involves
essentially
three
components
that
all
happen
in
this
first
stage,
which
are
the
market
report,
the
opportunity
zone,
prospectus
and
the
marketing
plan.
So
the
market
report
we
finished
several
months
ago
that
was
completed
back
in
about
november
december,
we're
wrapping
up
the
opportunity
zone
prospectus.
Now
this
meeting
is
actually
to
get
some
feedback
from
you
all
on
how
that's
coming
together
and
then
the
marketing
plan
will
be
provided
to
staff
to
be
used
as
an
ongoing
tool
for
implementation
and
next
steps.
P
P
So
we've
looked
at
those
five
distinct
areas
and
sort
of
created
a
branding
for
each
of
them,
so
you've
got
the
urban
core
east
tampa
west
tampa
drew
park
airport
and
then
also
the
university
area,
and
you
can
kind
of
see
how
those
layout
on
this
map
here
these
are
the
total
of
all
the
zones
that
fall
into
those
areas.
So
you
see
there's
several
that
fall
into
the
east
tampa
area.
P
So
we
did
a
series
of
stakeholder
engagement
which
we've
been
doing
since
the
beginning
of
the
process,
and
you
can
see
here.
We
we
worked
with
community
partners.
We
also
look
to
fund
investor
and
development
facilitators
and
we
also
spoke
with
each
of
your
cra
advisory
committees.
There
were
some
that
we
weren't
able
to
directly
present
to
during
their
regular
scheduled
meetings,
but
in
those
settings
we
did
still
provide
them
samples
and
or
recordings
of
the
other
presentations
we
did
for
the
other
districts.
P
So
this
is
essentially
kind
of
what
your
market
report
looks
like.
We
looked
at
residential
office,
retail
and
industrial
uses,
and
we
specifically
focused
on
each
of
those
five
areas,
so
this
market
report
will
be
updated
as
part
of
our
original
response
to
your
rfp.
We
did
a
market
report
and
we'll
be
updating
it
one
year
after
so,
the
update
to
this
will
come
in
november
of
this
year
and
then
you'll
have
a
new
set
of
data
to
go
along
with
that.
So
this
is
one
of
those
tools
that
you
now
have
that
really
helps.
P
P
So
when
we
get
into
the
perspective
sort
of
the
intro
to
that
section
of
the
product
is
going
to
be
sort
of
an
overview
of
what
the
opportunity
zone
program
is
so
that
people
can
get
an
understanding
of
how
that
works,
especially
folks
that
have
never
been
exposed
to
it
before
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
a
lot
from
our
conversations
with
the
cac
board
members,
and
also
some
of
the
folks
from
the
public.
Was
that
they're
really
looking
for
how
to
get
the
opportunity
zone
program
connected
to
the
individual
businesses?
P
So
one
of
the
ways
that
we've
done,
that
is
by
creating
this
sort
of
matrix,
where
we
look
at
the
qualified
opportunity
funds
that
are
available
for
you
know
that
have
the
funds
that
you're
looking
for
to
invest
in
opportunity
zones
is
to
look
at
those
and
understand
how
they
may
align,
whether
they're
a
real
estate
focus
a
business
investment
focus
and
which
sub-districts
of
those
five
that
we
talked
about,
may
most
align
with
the
specific
needs
of
those
specific
funds.
So
that's
kind
of
what
you
see
here.
P
This
is
included
in
the
prospectus
and
hopefully
then
you
know
if
you're
in
one
of
these
five
districts,
you
can
come
to
this
and
look
and
say
hey.
You
know
that
fund
is
interested
in
exactly
what
I'm
looking
to
attract
an
investor
to
so
the
area
that
I'm
in
is
consistent
with
what
they're
interested
in
investing
in
so
at
least
it
gives
them
a
first
point
to
reach
out
to
to
start
that
process
of
seeking
fund
investment
oops.
Sorry.
P
So
we
then
introduce
each
of
the
sub-districts,
so
I've,
given
you
an
example
here
of
the
east,
tampa
sub-district,
but
there
is
a
similar
spread
to
this
for
each
of
those
five
districts
that
gives
you
that
overview
about
the
individual
area.
Community
investment,
that's
been
happening
in
that
community
and
then
also
the
major
anchor
development.
That's
there
one
of
the
things
that
opportunity,
funds
and-
and
general
investors
tend
to
look
at-
is
you
know,
is
there
already
investment
activity
here?
Is
the
city
already
committed?
P
Is
there
a
cra,
that's
already
committed
and
making
investments
into
this
community?
Because
you
know
money
sometimes
follows
money
and
those
investments
make
them
feel
more
confident
going
forward.
So
that's
really.
What
we're
highlighting
here
is
that
look,
there's
already
a
lot
of
investment
activity
happening
within
these
communities
on
the
public
side,
which
really
is
opening
the
door
to
that
private
sector
investment.
P
P
P
So
what
you
get
is
this
sort
of
overview
of
here's
everything
that's
going
on
in
this
specific
zone,
this
specific
census
tract.
You
also
get
those
socioeconomic
and
key
demographic
facts
so
that
you
can
kind
of
start
to
look
at
this
from
the
investor
perspective
and
say
this
census
tract
is
consistent
with
the
things
that
I'd
be
looking
for
as
an
investor.
P
So
if
it's
the
income
levels,
the
education
attainment,
whether
it's
that
it's
a
more
residential,
focused
community
or
a
more
industrial
or
commercially
focused
community
or
area,
that's
how
they're
going
to
then
help
narrow
those
tracks
down
to
identify
which
one
they
want
to
be
active
in
so
separate
from
that.
We
also
do
an
investment
and
redevelopment
opportunity
index
model.
What
this
does
is
takes
a
number
of
factors
and
models,
those
to
identify
areas
well,
not
really
areas
specific
properties
within
each
of
those
sub-districts
to
identify
which
ones
are
most
ripe
for
investment
or
redevelopment.
P
So
the
next
step
is
the
marketing
plan.
That's
what
we're
essentially
finalizing
now.
So
the
marketing
plan
is
intended
to
be
essentially
a
road
map
for
staff,
so
they're
going
to
take
that
marketing
plan
and
it's
going
to
help
them
move
the
opportunity
zone
program
forward.
So
it's
going
to
be
what
rob's,
referring
to
whenever
he's
going
forward
with
this,
to
promote
the
opportunity
zone
program
in
tampa,
but
then
also
as
he
works
with
the
many
community
partners
that
you
all
have
to
further
this
program
for
your
community.
P
So
that
includes
implementation,
that's
tailored
towards
housing,
commercial
and
retail,
industrial
agricultural
uses
and
operating
investments.
So
there'll
also
be
something
of
an
investor
pitch
development
that
goes
along
with
that.
But
again,
that's
really
to
continue
down
that
path,
using
it
as
a
roadmap.
P
Rob
and
his
team
have
been
building
this
into
your
existing
web
platform
so
that
it
can
at
least
start
to
share
the
information
there
to
get
the
word
out
and
start
messaging,
but
ultimately
we're
hoping
that
this
becomes
a
little
bit
more
of
an
interactive
platform
so
that
people
can
really
navigate
it
in
a
way
that
is
very
quick
and
easy
for
them
to
find
right.
Now,
it's
really
coming
together
nicely
and
it's
really
starting
to
take
shape,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
that
continues
to
progress
over
the
coming
weeks.
P
P
So
our
next
step
is
to
finalize
the
opportunity
zone
prospectus,
we're
very
close
on
that
and
then
also
formalize
the
marketing
plan,
which
we're
also
very
close
to
the
completion
of
that.
So
I
don't
want
to
take
up
much
of
y'all's
time.
I
know
that
you're,
probably
all
having
a
very
long
day,
because
y'all
have
been
up
there
since
nine.
E
Good
friend
of
mine,
brother,
set
on
the
creation
of
the
opportunity
zone
with
senator
scott
and
opportunities
zones
are
supposed
to
be
utilized
for
unnecessary
communities
developed
communities.
I
look
at
this
map,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
move
east
tampa
and
some
of
our
other
martial
arts
communities
put
this
opportunity
zones.
How
are
we
going
to
use
the
opportunity
zones
for
black
businesses
to
promote
them?
E
I
I
see
a
schematic
here,
but
it
ain't
telling
me
how
we're
going
to
get
the
meat
and
potatoes
to
get
it
done
and-
and
my
thing
is,
how
are
we
going
to
market
to
the
people
in
those
communities
to
know
or
to
where
to
go
see?
I
can
put
this
on
the
website,
but
nobody
saying
going
to
the
city
of
temple
website.
Look
at
this
or
you
know
what
opportunities
on
this.
E
I
have
to
be
a
realistic
person
on
that.
So
are
we
looking
at
boots
on
the
ground
to
look
at
some
of
these
businesses
that
are
there
knocking
on
doors,
putting
literature
there,
so
they
can
understand
what
an
opportunity
zone
is
what
can
be
offered?
How
we're
going
to
promote
businesses
to
come
here
to
look
at
some
of
our
areas
to
talk
about
growth?
E
Now
you've
got
an
opportunity
zone
in
in
the
central
part
where
we
know
we've
got
big
developers
there
who
going
to
take
advantage
of
that
with
your
gas
works
and
all
your
other
stuff.
So
that's
fine
for
them
because
they
don't.
They
know
all
about
that
they're
the
money
people,
but
I
look
at
the
marginalized
communities.
I
just
want
to
know
how
are
we
going
to
help
them
to
help
their
communities
thrive?
That's
what
I
need
to
know.
D
Those
are
great
questions
and
the
exact
kind
of
questions
we
get
on
a
regular
basis.
I
get
calls
three
four
times
a
week.
Answering
that
exact
same
question.
I'm
happy
to
apply
so
the
the
idea
is
that
we're
not
handing
out
money
we're
not
doing
that
kind
of
work.
This
is
a
big
education
and
awareness
and
when
we
have
businesses
that
come
and
says
well,
okay,
I'm
not
buying
real
estate,
but
can
I
still
use
this
program
for
other
things?
D
For
example,
if
a
company
says
hey
I'd
like
to
rent
the
place
next
door
and
expand
my
business,
let's
say
their
pizza
company
and
they
said
I
need
to
buy
a
new
oven
and
I
need
to
expand.
My
business
need
more
tables.
I
need
to
hire
two
more
employees
and
I
can
expand
my
business.
But
if
I
go
to
my
traditional
loan
place,
they
require
more
equity.
D
You
can
go
to
one
of
the
qualified
opportunities
zone
funds
and
do
a
shark
take
moment
where
you
say:
hey,
I'd
like
to
borrow
some
money
or
have
you
invest
in
this
business?
I
need
ovens.
I
need
these
other
things.
What
counts
for
rent
accounts
for
the
equipment
that
you're
going
to
put
into
that
building?
You
can
use
it
for
operational,
it's
not
just
for
real
estate.
D
D
Those
were
the
early
takers
and
that's
when
the
the
rules
were
first
written
was
was
first
in
mind,
but
as
the
rules
got
written
in
2019,
those
other
options
became
more
small
business
focused,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
for
is
to
get
our
partners
to
get
out
there
and
share
that
information
like
the
cdcs
and
the
edcs,
and
you
know
the
chambers
to
go
hey.
These
are
great
tools.
This
is
an
educational
piece.
D
This
printed
document
is
obviously
going
to
outdate
because
it's
printed,
but
the
website
was
intended
to
be
that
dynamic
continue
to
go
on
and
any
new
changes
the
rules.
The
idea
is
that
the
the
properties
that
the
cras
have
bought,
that
one
that
we
need
to
advertise
and
show
this
is
available
for
redevelopment.
D
This
is
a
highlight
document.
This
is
one
of
the
tools
that
we
should
have
and
say.
Oh
by
the
way
did
you
know
we
have
these
opportunity
zones.
This
is
a
possibility.
We
are
seeing
people
that
are
starting
to
use
those
funds
to
buy
properties
in
downtown
and
buy
properties
in
other
areas.
Those
are
the
those
are
the
ones
that
get
the
newspaper
all
the
time.
The
ones
that
you
don't
see
are
the
people
like
the
small
ones
that
we
have
here
like
sakari,
lux
and
and
edward.
D
I
need
to
buy
a
city
block
and
you
know,
put
100
million
dollar
development
on
it
and
I'm
looking
for
a
big
cash
donor
or
a
cash
investor
into
the
zone,
so
they're
looking
for
all
levels
and
the
idea
is
that
we're
trying
to
share
that
information
and
become
that
tool,
and
so
that's
how
we're
trying
to
get
the
boots
on
the
ground
and
we're
trying
to
get
our
partners
to
be
working
with
us
to
get
that
word
out.
Did
you
would
you
like
to
add
to
that.
H
Good
afternoon
again,
nicole
travis
administrator
of
development
and
economic
opportunity
and
your
interim
cra
director,
one
of
the
things
that
one
of
the
great
things,
I
think
is
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
do
with
this
prospectus
is
educate
our
cra
staff
as
well.
Our
cra
staff
is
in
the
community.
They
are
meeting
with
people
they're
hearing
from
businesses,
they're
hearing
from
a
lot
of
these
smaller
businesses
with
facades
grants,
and
I
think,
educating
them
about
the
prospectus
and
who
who
to
be
that
contact
and
be
that
conduit,
I
think,
is
a
real.
H
It's
a
real
opportunity
for
us
to
be
those
boots
on
the
grounds
and
and
be
that
connection
between
the
business
community
that
may
want
to
expand
or
new
businesses
that
may
want
to
come
in.
So
I
plan
to
use
this
as
well
to
educate
the
cra
staff
and
to
have
them
out
being
boots
on
the
ground
as
well,
for
our
local
businesses.
E
H
Yeah,
so
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
to
maybe
partner
with
consultants
that
may
be
able
to
help
with
those
questions.
We
are
not
the
professionals
that
can
help
with
your
tax
statements
and
your
tax
liabilities,
but
we
certainly
can
partner
with
other
organizations
the
cdc,
the
sbdc
that
have
consultants
and
other
private
consultants.
That
may
be
able
to
answer
those
questions
and
walk
our
business
owners
through
the
steps,
so
that
they
understand
that
this
is
not
an
opportunity
zone.
Here,
go
figure
it
out.
E
Because
that's
what
happens
they
don't
know
about
permitting.
They
don't
know
to
get
in
front
of
us
what
to
say
what
not
to
say
because
they
don't
know
to
know
and
then
they
lose
out.
So
that's
a
big
part
of
this
process
making
sure
there's
some
place.
They
can
go
to
talk
about
the
financial
reference
to
talk
about
this.
What
happens
when
you
go
to
permitting
planning
or
you
may
need
to
get
a
lawyer
who's,
a
land
use
person,
they
don't
know
those
things
and
they
get
shut
out
because
of
that.
H
It
is
my
intention,
as
your
interim
cra
director,
to
utilize
the
staff
that
we
have
in
a
project
management
role
position
so
that
they
can
learn,
be
the
connecting
party
to
the
business
owners
that
have
questions
the
residents
that
have
questions
and
connecting
them
through
the
entire
process,
not
just
from
concept,
but
until
they
get
a
certificate
of
occupancy
through
all
the
way.
So
that
is
my
intention
and
we'll
do
that.
The
same
is
true
with
the
opportunity
zone
prospectus
well,.
E
Yep
ernest
is
here
so
I
I
know
mr
brown
has
been
out
looking
in
each
tampa,
looking
at
opportunities
in
areas
on
columbus
and
other
areas,
so
I'm
hoping
that
he'll
be
able
to
get
some
people
here
with
mr
conan
to
look
like
investing
in
east
tampa
to
make
sure
we
can
have
some
folks
who
are
living
there
working
there
as
well.
D
D
S
D
Glad
that
commitment-
because
I
think
it
was
our
intention
at
the
beginning-
was
to
give
this
tool
to
everybody.
So
we
can
get
those
investments.
We
are
seeing
a
lot
more.
I'm
actually
surprised
each
day
when
somebody
becomes
obtained.
I've
invested
in
this
and
I'd
like
to
know
if
somebody
else
would
like
to
do
this
and
they're
offering
lots
of
interesting
information.
So
we
are
seeing,
I
mean
the
related
group.
They
mentioned
two
opportunity
zone
funds
that
they're
using
to
fund
part
of
the
project
that
they
mentioned
earlier.
D
Today
we
had
the
old
verizon
building
downtown,
I'm
sorry,
frontier
building
downtown
that
was
became
an
opportunity's
own
purchase
in
some
of
the
blocks
around
there.
So
we're
starting
to
hear
a
lot
of
people
starting
to
invest
and
things
that
it's
amazing.
So
these
are
great
stories
to
share
and
to
try
to
get
other
people
invest.
So
it's
exciting
again.
Those
are
the
easy
ones
to
point
to
trying
to
get
those
out
to
all
the
other
levels.
C
G
Thanks
everybody
for
putting
this
together,
I
think
all
the
work
that's
been
done
is
important.
This
is
the
the
thing
that
I'd
like
to
remind
everybody.
I've
already
talked
to
nicole
about
this
is
that
this
is
a
tool
and
it
makes
us
equal
to
other
cities.
It
doesn't
necessarily
differentiate
us.
We've
got
a
lot
of
great
things
that
differentiate
us
about
our
community,
but
if,
without
doing
all
the
work
that's
been
done
it
it
puts,
it
would
put
us
at
a
disadvantage
by
not
being
able
to
tell
people
about
it.
G
The
thing
that
I
I
would
just
caution,
everybody,
especially
in
the
marketing
of
this-
is
let's
not
get
distracted
by
the
tool
and
run
and
chase
the
tool.
Let's
focus
on
real
planning
for
our
community.
We
shouldn't
be
trying
to
chase
a
big
real
estate
project
just
because
we
can
use
this
or
whatever
kind
of
project.
G
G
We
really
got
to
look
at
changing
the
economic
numbers
of
our
city
and
we're
not
going
to
do
it
just
by
offering
incentives
and
using
tools
we're
going
to
do
it
by
doing
the
right
kind
of
planning
looking
at
the
real
numbers
that
underpin
our
economy
and
doing
real
economic
planning
and
economic
development
planning.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
C
Do
we
have
any
do
we
have
any
other
new
visits,
or
did
we
cover
at
all?
You
sure
you
want
to
go
this
early.
Second,.