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Our
invocation
today
is
by
Kitty
Wallace,
the
co-founder
of
Tampa
Heights
community
garden,
which
was
twice
named
best
community
garden
in
Florida
by
the
Florida
Federation
of
garden
clubs
and
a
co-founder
of
the
Coalition
of
Community
Gardens,
a
non-profit
organization
dedicated
to
the
success
and
expansion
of
Community
Gardens
kitties
Awards
include
Hillsborough
County's
Harvest
award
for
community
service,
a
city
of
Tampa
Tampa
Commendation
for
her
work
with
community
and
school
Gardens,
and
the
Florida
Federation
of
garden
clubs,
honored
Kitty
as
one
of
the
12
Statewide
inspired
gardeners,
a
retired
educator
from
Hillsborough
County
Public
Schools
Kitty
is
a
mother
of
three
grandmother
of
seven
and
great-grandmother
of
four.
D
I'm
humbled
to
represent
hundreds
of
gardeners
in
the
15
Community
Gardens
in
the
city
of
Tampa
and
the
27
total
Gardens
in
Hillsborough
County.
This
morning
we
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
the
Creator
and
ask
for
guidance
as
we
work
together
as
Citizens
and
city
leaders
to
include
nature
in
our
quality
of
life
as
part
of
food
Equity
as
part
of
environmental
resilience
and
as
part
of
environmental
justice
is
said
that
to
plant
a
garden
is
to
believe
in
tomorrow.
B
Right
before
we
begin,
we
have
a
couple
of
things
to
go
over
item
number
two:
there's
a
request
for
a
continuance
to
August.
31St
may
I
have
a
motion.
B
H
B
I
Just
very
briefly,
Martin
Shelby
city
council
attorney
good
morning
and
members
of
the
public.
Today's
Workshop
is
public
comment
for
today's
Workshop
is
two
places.
If
you'd
like
to
speak
early
in
the
meeting
during
general
public
comment
to
any
item
on
the
agenda,
you
may
do
so.
You'll
have
three
minutes
or
you
can
choose
to
wait
till
the
end
of
the
item.
Each
item
we
open
for
public
comments,
so
you
can
comment
on
it.
After
the
fact
you
can
choose
one
or
the
other,
but
not
both.
I
C
I
would
like
to
just
I,
don't
know
that
we
have
to
vote
on
this,
but
just
to
say
that
item
six,
seven
and
eight
are
all
sort
of
related.
So
I
would
like
to
hear
those
all
together.
B
Right
sounds
good
other
than
that
we
will
be
breaking
at
noon
if
we
need
to
break
if
we
haven't
completed
the
agenda
and
come
back
at
1
30,
but
when
we
get
there
we'll
get
there
all
right.
So
at
this
time,
if
you're
here
to
speak
for
public
comment
on
anything
on
the
agenda,
you
have
three
minutes.
Please
say
your
name
line
up
to
this
side
of
the
room
and
go
ahead.
If
anybody
wishes
to
speak
for
public
conference.
J
Good
morning,
Vicente
amore,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity,
I'm
here
to
introduce
a
new
organization
that
will
be
in
here
more
from
La
Voz
de
Tampa
Bay
the
boys
or
stand
away
which
aim
to
continue
the
200
years,
all
cultural
and
historical
relationship
between
Tampa,
Bay
and
Cuba,
by
Australian,
a
relationship
with
Cuba,
Basics,
basic
and
respect
and
the
interests
of
Tampa
Bay.
Unfortunately,
the
issue
of
Cuba
has
been
misrepresented
by
so-called
organizations,
families
and
individuals
such
as
Raphael
and
Roberto
Pisano
in
our
city.
J
For
too
long,
this
individual
has
lied
to
us
all
the
time
about
who
they
are,
what
is
really
going
on
in
Cuba
and
what
is
the
Practical
and
more
constructive
position
which
you
have
as
a
community?
This
individuals
act
like
criminals.
They
they
try
to
intimidate
multi-politician
in
our
city.
They
wait
serious
accusation
of
trade,
an
attack
on
women
and
men,
and
they
should
not
be
in
any
of
the
committees
or
project
for
our
community.
Enough
is
enough.
J
K
This
first
projection
over
here
councilman
might
be
familiar
with
it.
If
you
would
present
it
if.
B
We
could
activate
the
overhead,
so
we
can
see.
K
Okay,
this
is
in
reference
to
the
Ray
Charles
project.
Basically,
it's
the
virtual
reconstruction
of
Ray
Charles
home
near
excuse
me
Ray,
Charles
home.
That's
not
his
home.
He
lived
in
a
small
section
near
Zach
in
Nebraska,
so
it's
going
to
be
into
fruition.
I
hope,
one
day
by
an
architect
through
which
mbsap
will
be
assisting
with
very
frugal
budget,
it
will
be.
The
whole
thing
will
be
represented
to
the
council.
I
hope
that
will
be
passed
on.
K
So
this
is
more
involving
a
more
involving
script
that
will
presented
be
presented
to
the
council
involving
Tampa.
Specifically,
it's
called
Buffalo
Soldier
of
coming
I.
Don't
know
how
many
of
the
council
people
are
aware,
but
nearby
where
I
live,
Seminole,
Heights
I
believe
there
is
a
a
dedication
with
the
Infantry
in
Calvary
did
in
about
the
1890s
in
that
in
that
era
and
is,
as
you
can
see
in
the
beginning,
it
says
italic
names
and
Henry.
K
Osan
slippers
is
actually
a
man
who
existed
during
prior
to
that,
so
this
I
hope
will
also
be
presented
to
the
council.
Now
it
is
not
only
my
project,
my
book,
so
to
speak,
but
as
a
gentleman
by
the
name
of
Mr
Al
Lucas,
who
was
presented
to
this
Council
before
some
time
he's
a
good
man.
Who's
contributed
a
significant
amount
towards
this
project
and
I'm
honored
to
work
with
him,
as
he
is
with
me,
and
that
is
the
basics
of
it.
K
B
L
It's
Tampa,
that's
because
it's
relevant
to
what
I'm
talking
about
I
autical
science
from
the
University
of
Michigan
in
August
22
city
council,
passed
a
motion
to
have
a
workshop
on
moving
Tampa
Municipal
elections
to
even
numbered
years
to
align
with
state
and
federal
elections.
Please
do
not
postpone
this
until
August
2023,
because
it
is
a
very
important
issue.
With
the
current
election
timing,
an
extraordinarily
unrepresentative
set
of
Tampa
residents,
chooses
the
elected
officials
who
allocate
resources
and
make
policies
to
address
things
like
the
affordable
housing
crisis
or
police
accountability.
L
L
Wealthier
voters
had
much
higher
turnout
than
those
in
lower
income
groups
and
older
people
voted
at
much
higher
rates
than
younger
ones.
Again,
a
very
unrepresentative
set
of
Tampa
residents
is
choosing
our
elected
officials
about
70
percent
of
U.S.
Cities
have
off-cycle
Municipal
elections,
but
many
are
now
changing
their
schedules
to
align
with
the
general
elections.
That
means
we
now
have
a
lot
of
data
on
the
impact.
L
L
City
like
city
leaders,
elected
in
on-cycle
elections,
are
more
representative
of
the
local
population
than
those
who
are
elected
in
off
cycle
elections.
More
representative
government
works
better
and
is
more
representative
to
the
needs
of
all
all
of
its
residents.
Would
you
rather
be
elected
when
10
of
the
voters
participate
or
in
70
percent
participate?
You
have
the
power
to
make
this
change.
L
According
to
the
city,
attorney's
memorandum,
the
city
council
May,
amend
the
city
Charter
by
ordinance,
without
a
referendum,
to
move
the
dates
of
City
elections
to
even
number
years
to
be
consistent
with
the
general
election.
Please
don't
kick
this
down
the
road
till
August
2023
that
will
be
a
year
from
when
it
was
first
brought
up.
This
is
an
important
issue
for
the
City
of
Tampa
and
I,
encourage
you
to
take
a
close
look
at
it.
Thank
you.
M
M
M
M
And
that's
the
way
it
has
been
and
if
you
look
around
this
city,
if
you
look
and
see
where
African
people
live,
you
can
see
that
kind
of
dispossession.
You
can
see
that
kind
of
underdevelopment
and
it
just
doesn't
start
30
minutes
ago,
an
hour
ago.
It
started
a
long
time
ago.
So
African
people
have
a
lot
of
catching
up
to
do.
How
are
we
going
to
do
that
catching
up?
We're
going
to
do
it
with
reparations
the
money
that
we're
owed
we
need
to
be
paid.
M
Those
are
the
things
that
this
city
council
need
to
be
discussing.
It's
being
discussed
all
around
the
world.
All
around
the
world.
People
are
old
reparations
people
throughout
Brazil
people
throughout
South,
America,
Argentina,
every
single
country
in
Africa
people
throughout
the
Middle,
East
people
of
old
reparations
and
right
here
in
this
city,
we're
old
reparations
each
African
person.
That's
a
resident
of
this
city
is
owed
three
million
dollars
and
we
need
those
resources,
and
those
are
the
serious
things
that
this
city
council
need
to
be
discussing.
M
Can't
keep
tricking
us
and
making
us
think
that
hey
like
we're
going
to
discuss,
speed,
bumps
and
other
stuff
and
other
stuff
and
other
stuff.
No,
this
city
council
have
to
put
something
about
reparations
on
the
table
and
on
one
of
these
agendas
they
have
to
put
something
about
reparations
to.
Let
African
people
know
that
they
recognize
the
injustices
that
has
been
done
to
us
for
the
past
403
Years.
Thank
you.
N
Good
morning
Council,
my
name
is
Stephanie
Poyner
I'm,
an
activist
south
of
Gandy
I,
have
handed
you
a
list
of
all
the
apartment
complexes,
the
multi-family
complexes
that
they've
built
south
of
Gandhi's
west
of
Dale
Mabry
in
the
last
since
2018,
whatever
that
is
five
six
years.
N
Okay,
but
I
I
wanted
to
point
out
to
you
that
just
those
alone,
I
pulled
the
tax
records
five
million
dollars
a
year
right
at
five
million
dollars
a
year
that
they
are
now
paying
in
that
they
did
that
the
city
did
not
receive
before
and
I
realize
the
city
doesn't
receive.
All
of
that,
but
I'd
like
to
point
out
to
you.
In
in
physical
year
2022,
the
city
of
Tampa
had
set
aside
seven
million
dollars
to
put
a
robe
which
would
be
Tyson
between
West
Shore
and
Manhattan.
N
The
Civic
leaders
and
every
single
other
person.
I
talked
to
south
of
Gandhi
said
that
was
the
dumbest
idea
that
they
had
ever
seen
because
it
goes
nowhere.
It
just
travels.
It
puts
people
on
a
road
to
nowhere.
But
what
amazed
me
about
it
was
that
the
following
year
that
money
dried
up
and
disappeared.
N
N
Today
we
have
a
150
tanker
trucks,
a
day
that
run
out
of
the
picnic
Island
area.
They
are
going
to
kill
somebody
on
Interbay
because
there
are
no
turn
Lanes
in
the
center.
There
is
no
mediation.
We
keep
having
all
of
these
issues
and
look.
They
said
it's
going
to
cost
eight
million
dollars.
Where
did
the
7
million
go?
Let's
find
it?
N
Let's
go
ahead
and
take
care
of
this
because
it's
time
also
I'm
asking
now
because
today
is
the
budget
commit
the
budget
thing
I'm
asking
now
for
it
to
be
in
one
PDF,
I'm,
sorry,
the
first
year
that
I
had
to
read
the
budget.
It's
somebody
said
it's
going
to
be
850
pages
screwed
around
councilman,
dingfelder
screamed,
I
screamed
said:
I
want
it
in
one
PDF.
By
the
time
we
got
it.
It
was
over
a
thousand
pages.
Last
year
there
was
a
big
argument
about.
Where
is
the
one
PDF?
We
need.
N
O
Good
morning
my
name
is
Kevin
mccaskill,
and
so
today,
I'm
here
I
know
I
may
not
stay
throughout
the
whole
Workshop,
but
a
lot
of
the
day
is
dedicated
for
pure
and
one
of
the
great
things
that
came
out.
The
last
city
council,
councilman,
deanfelder,
councilman
Carlson,
councilman
Goods,
is
they
showed
us
the
value
in
becoming
a
unified
Community.
We
learned
the
importance
of
you
know,
going
to
a
Bayshore,
beautiful
Association
meetings
and
maybe
Tampa
Gardens
and
learning
about
ttag
becoming
Friends
With
Friends
of
the
bay
and
and
just
learning
more
about
communities
everywhere.
O
O
We
have
some
other
issues,
that's
pressing,
not
only
that
it
didn't
make
sense
economically
and
there's
no
urgency
for
us
to
fix
what
we
have
right
now
in
terms
of
water,
and
so
most
of
us
have
said,
we
don't
want
it
and
they
all
are
in
your
areas
that
you
represent
and
nobody
and
on
your
campaign
I'm
sure
nobody
said
one
good
thing
about
pure,
but
what
we
do
agree
from.
Channelside
I
went
to
downtown
partnership
meeting
on
Friday
they're
concerned
about
crime
on
Water,
Street
crime
and
cleanliness
in
Bayshore
beautiful.
O
They
concerned
about
crime,
Beach
Park,
Sunset,
Park,
East,
Tampa,
Ybor,
West,
Tampa,
all
up
in
Tampa,
we're
concerned
about
crime.
When
you
look
at
the
police
officers,
when
you
meet
with
the
police
officers
at
the
community
meeting,
they're
not
going
to
tell
you
that,
but
they're
overwhelmed
addressing
crime,
and
on
top
of
that
we
have
homelessness
issues.
So
recently,
Forbes
announced
that
we're
the
greatest
place
to
live
in
the
state
of
Florida.
We
don't
want
homelessness
and
crime
to
diminish
that
you
have
an
opportunity
to
ignore
pure,
we
don't
want
it
kill
it.
O
What
we
want
is
a
the
appropriate
amount
of
police
officers.
What
we
want
is
people
to
deal
with
homelessness
so
that
they're
treated
with
digging
it
in
whatever
else.
As
we
address
those
issues,
pure,
is
not
our
biggest
challenge
and
we
don't
want
to
see
the
money
go
in
the
pure
when
we
need
officers
and
we
also
need
to
address
homelessness.
Thank
you.
B
No
all
right,
thank
you
very
much.
We
will
now
go
to
ceremonial
activities,
council,
member,
Vieira,
I'm.
Sorry,
oh
I'm.
Sorry,
we
have
one
registered
speaker,
Mr
Randolph.
If
you're
on
the
line,
please
state
your
name
and
you
have
three
minutes:
Sir
Michael,
Randolph,.
P
Forgot
about
you,
the
dead
talking
for
West
Tampa
Bay
in
the
next
four
years.
Your
decision
will
impact
hundreds
of
thousands
I
pray
that
you
make
your
decision.
As
you
make
your
decision.
P
You
say
to
yourself
once
I've
done,
but
at
least
I
pray
that
you
adopt
a
policy
of
reducing
justification
on
purpose
and
by
Design
I
pray
that
the
city
council
takes
a
position
of
no
one
left
behind
I
pray
that
when
you
become
a
city
of
yes,
we
can.
Yes,
we
will-
and
yes
we,
yes,
we
will
take
care
of
our
brothers.
We
are
our
brothers
sisters
and
Tampa
people
are
losing
faith
in
government.
P
B
Q
So,
for
if
I
may
Mr
chair
for
for
item
number
one,
the
or
number
two,
the
the
election
one
I
I
may
be
out
when
we
discuss
it,
may
I
address
that
really
fast.
If
I
may,
thank
you,
sir
I
had
done
a
a
member
requesting
a
continuance
and
I
saw
some
members
of
the
public
I
I
heard
you
Mammon,
and
thank
you
for
your
remarks.
I
think
this
is
a
very,
very
important
issue,
especially
after
the
turnout
we
saw
in
the
in
the
2023
election.
I
won't
get
into
the
statistics.
Q
However,
the
gentleman
who
is
working
with
me
on
this
attorney
Matt
Newton,
is
unfortunately
unable
to
make
it
today,
which
is
why
I'm
requesting
more
time
on
it
and
whatnot
so
I'm
glad
ma'am
to
meet
with
you
if
you'd
like,
or
anybody
to
discuss
this
issue.
Q
But
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
conversation
that
we
need
to
have
in
Tampa
that
will
save
taxpayers
money
and
increase
turnout,
including,
like
you
said,
ma'am,
and
a
lot
of
marginalized
communities
as
this
is,
as
the
statistics
will
show,
so
that
that's
my
rationale
for
requesting
the
additional
time
just
to
address
that
Mr
chairman.
Q
Q
To
see
all
it's
a
real
pleasure
to
be
here
today,
sir
and
I
I
have
here
some
really
important
folks
here
for
Memorial
days,
we
all
know
Memorial
Day
is
coming
up
and
we
always
like
to
have
our
gold
star
families
come
here
to
Tampa
City
Council,
to
talk
about
the
real
meaning
of
Memorial,
Day
and
and
what
it
should
mean
to
all
of
us,
regardless
of
our
background.
Q
Memorial
Day,
as
we
all
know,
is
a
day
set
aside
where
we
can
honor
the
Fallen
here
in
our
United
States,
where
we
can
acknowledge
people
like
the
late
Sergeant,
Terry
Michael
Lisk,
whose
family
is
here
and
the
late
Sergeant
Wilbert
Davis,
whose
family
is
here,
and
you
see
them
up
there
on
the
screen
both
of
those
two
great
American
Heroes
I
also
wanted
to
acknowledge
and
they
can
come
up
if
they'd,
like
I
know,
we
have
some
Representatives
here
from
the
office
of
U.S,
senator
Rick,
Scott,
Luis
reluente,
with
Luke
and
I
also
believe
Frank
Rivera
with
state
representative
Danny
Alvarez
is
here
they'd
like
to
come
up.
Q
Of
course,
they
may
we're
again
honored
to
have
the
families
of
these
two
individuals
here
before
we
hear
from
them
all
very
briefly,
just
go
into
these
individuals
backgrounds
of
what
makes
them
so
unique.
Sergeant
Terry
Lisk
gave
all
on
June
26
of
2006
in
Iraq.
He
was
ultimately
killed
on
June
27th
of
2006..
That
was
a
particularly
bloody
time
in
Iraq
on
the
27th
of
June.
27
soldiers
had
been
killed
in
action
in
Iraq
when
Sergeant
Lisk
would
ultimately
give
all.
Q
On
this
day
when
he
gave
all
Sergeant
Lisk
was
standing
near
an
intersection
in
downtown
ramadi.
When
a
mortar
shell
fired
by
gorillas
landed,
30
Paces
away,
he
would
ultimately
die
due
to
the
injuries
sustained.
The
New
York
Times
would
have
a
very
famous
photo
of
a
number
of
soldiers
saluting
the
body
of
Sergeant
Lisk,
as
he
was
being
taken
away,
including
a
gentleman
who
was
I
believe
in
a
Stretcher
saluting
this
great
American
hero.
Q
He
was
known
by
his
fellow
soldiers
as
someone
who
they
could
count
on
to
cheer
them
up
in
the
midst
of
darkness,
and
he
is
here
represented
by
Lori
Fleming,
his
mother
and
her
husband,
Mr
Dan
Rooney,
who
are
here
to
talk
about
this
great
American
hero.
Q
Q
Along
with
him
was
the
famous
journalist,
Michael
Kelly,
who
would
also
be
killed
in
Iraq.
If
you
remember,
it
was
said
that
Sergeant
Davis
in
the
U.S
army
went
well
together
because
he
was
a
very,
very
meticulous
individual.
He
was
one
of
eight
children
whose
father
died
when
he
was
very
young
and
his
mother,
who
is
with
us
here
today.
Q
The
weekend
would
raise
Sergeant
Davis
as
one
of
eight
children
in
East
Tampa.
Q
They
lived
in
a
public
housing
project
in
Tampa,
fighting
for
every
inch
of
the
playing
field,
Sergeant
Davis,
pitched
for
the
Belmont
Heights
Little
League,
which
produced
greats
like
Dwight,
Gooden,
Gary,
Sheffield
and
many
others,
and
he
would
take
the
team
to
the
Little
League
World
Series.
He
comes
from
a
military
family,
his
sister
who
was
married
to
an
army
man,
encouraged
Sergeant
Davis
to
enlist.
Q
He
would
have
four
children
and
left
behind
a
loving
family,
including
his
four
children,
his
wife,
Hui,
Hui,
Oak,
Davis
and
and
again
he
rests
with
his
fellow
Heroes
at
section
60.,
so
we're
here.
We
have
also
here
representing
the
family
of
Sergeant
Davis.
We
have
here
his
wonderful
mother,
Willie,
May
Lane,
his
brothers
I
believe
Robert
and
Saul
and
other
members
of
the
family
who
are
here
from
whom
will
will
hear
today.
So
if
we
may
we'd
like
to
hear
which
one
of
y'all
want
to
go
first,
you.
R
S
To
the
council,
in
order
protocol
I
salute
you
and
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
today,
as
well
as
councilman
Vieira
and
like
a
family
member
Miss
Henderson.
We
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
recognize.
He
was
my
brother
and
the
brother
of
my
two
sisters
and
my
mom
Wilbert
Davis
was
a
courageous
and
fearless
Soldier.
S
He
embraced
the
lifestyle
of
being
a
soldier.
He
lived
to
be
a
soldier
because
he
recognized
that
anything.
That's
worth
anything
in
life
has
a
price.
It
costs
something
and,
as
I
came
this
morning,
I
thought
of
what
he
was
always
telling
me
about
freedom
and
how
much
it
costs
and
as
I
drove
through
McDonald's
this
morning,
short
story.
Had
me
a
bacon
and
egg
sandwich.
S
Today,
as
U.S
citizens,
our
soldiers,
our
military
men,
had
to
give
up
their
lives
because
they
understand
that
in
order
to
be
free,
that
they're
going
to
be
some
sacrifices
required
and
and
Wilbert
Davis
knew
that
as
a
soldier
and
as
I
conclude
I
want
to
share
that
he
always
Wilbert
stood
for
just
being
committed
and
dedicated
as
a
soldier
and
that
his
memorial
I
shared
this
story
that
he
was
in
line
with
the
rest
of
his
spatoon
mates,
and
they
were
all
in
line
standing
erecting
straight
and
whatever
and
the
platoon
Sergeant
say.
S
Okay,
all
you
idiots
fall
out,
so
Whip
and
David
stood
at
attention,
so
the
soldier
came,
the
Sanjay
came
up
and
said:
Wilbur
Davis.
What's
your
problem
and
Wilbert
looked
at
the
sergeant
said
it's
a
lot
of
them.
Isn't
that
Sergeant,
meaning
that
hey
I
I
represent
this
thing
and
I'm
gonna?
Do
it
100
I'm,
not
an
idiot
I'm
here
to
fight
for
my
country
and
I?
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
on
behalf
of
my
family.
Have.
R
R
I
was
asked
today
to
speak
about
what
Memorial
Day
means
to
Gold
Star
families
and
I
was
on
Facebook
as
we
do,
and
I
came
across
a
post
from
a
veteran
and
I.
It
was
very
heartfelt
and
I
thought
it
was
very
it
hit
close
to
home
to
what,
because
sometimes
our
veterans,
they've
lost
friends
too
and
I
think
they
can
put
into
good
words.
R
So
I
asked
him
if
I
could
use
his
words
and
he
said
he
would
be
honored
if
I
did
so.
Here
are
his
words.
While
it's
certainly
not
wrong
to
wish
someone
a
happy,
Memorial
Day
and
it's
safe
to
assume
most
people
are
well
intentioned.
It
seems
as
though
taking
a
few
minutes
to
say
the
right
will
mean
so
much
more.
R
While
it
might
be
hard
to
approach
a
veteran,
you
may
know
saying
something
meaningful
to
them
really
could
make
all
the
difference,
especially
if
they
are
having
a
difficult
day
before
you
think
this
is
splitting
hairs.
Consider
that
what
you
say
matters
try
something
like
enjoy
your
weekend,
but
I
want
you
to
know.
I
will
be
remembering
what
this
holiday
is
all
about,
enjoy
your
weekend
and
be,
and
I
will
be
thinking
about.
R
Those
who
are
no
longer
with
us
or
I
will
be
taking
a
moment
this
weekend
to
honor
those
who
served
over
served
our
nation
and
are
no
longer
with
us.
After
all,
the
day
is
about
more
than
backyard
parties
and
barbecues.
Let's
prove
it
by
taking
a
moment
to
examine
our
words,
however,
enjoy
your
backyard
get-togethers
I'm
sure
they
would
want
that
too.
R
H
Thank
you
chairman.
You
know
we
forget
the
many
who
died.
Millions
have
died
when
you
go
back
to
World
War
One,
World,
War,
II,
Korean,
conflict
Vietnam,
and
it's
a
shame
that
the
prior
speaker
a
few
minutes
ago,
spoke
about
turnout
and
election
day,
they're,
the
ones
the
ones
that
are
not
here.
Who
gave
us
the
opportunity
to
go
vote
Yes
for
or
not
for
somebody
you,
like
somebody,
you
don't
want
in
office
and
it's
a
shame
that
we
in
society
have
forgotten
and
I'm
going
to
be
real
nice.
They
forgot
to
go
vote.
H
You
see
way
back
in
the
start
of
the
early
70s
when
I
first
started
doing
this
thing,
there
was
no
by
Mayo
voted
yeah,
you
can
vote
absentee,
you
have
to
be
in
the
hospital
had
to
be
overseas.
There
was
no
week
of
early
voting
and
the
turnout
was
five
times
greater
at
least
four
times
greater.
And
now
you
have
all
the
amenities,
all
the
benefits,
and
we
still
don't
go
to
me.
H
We
have
a
democracy
in
this
country
that
little
by
little
is
fading
away
and
I'm,
not
here,
to
give
you
political
speech
just
the
facts,
either
to
the
right
or
either
to
the
left
notice.
I
said
right
with
my
left
hand
and
right
to
the
left
hand,
because
it
makes
no
difference
who
you
are.
What
part
of
you
are
what
color
you
are
what
race?
You
are,
what
you
have
what
you
don't
have
you
still
have
the
right
to
go
vote
and
we're
not
using
that
right.
H
T
Morning,
I
know
that
this
is
not
a
club
that
you
all
signed
up,
for
it
was
a
huge
sacrifice.
What
Wilbert
Davis
did
and
your
son
did
for
this
country.
It
is
totally
incredible
to
me
and
I
think
back
to
that
day,
when
I
was
present
with
your
family
for
the
memorial
service,
and
it
was
a
really
heartfelt
moment
and
the
pouring
out
of
the
community
was
totally
incredible.
Miss
Lane,
Peggy,
ellesteen
Bob.
T
I
think
the
only
thing
that
I
could
just
sum
up
in
saying
is
that
we
know
that
you
loved
him
and
his
sacrifice
was
too
great
and
I
just
want
to
say
I'm.
Sorry,
because
I
know
that
that
was
a
loss
to
your
family,
his
daughter
that
I
taught
my
first
year
teaching
and
as
well
as
his
sisters,
his
brothers
and,
of
course
you
Miss
Lane.
So
thank
you
for
continuing
to
put
his
name
in
the
community.
He
will
always
be
remembered,
especially
in
our
community.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
U
Thank
you
all
I
can't
even
imagine
what
you
know
what
it
must
mean
to
you
to
one
to
have
a
family
member
that
has
lost
protecting
our
country
and
protecting
the
American
values
that
we
all
cherish,
and
you
know
the
ultimate
sacrifice,
not
just
for
our
soldiers
but
for
our
families
and
it's
it's
I
I.
U
Take
that
very
serious
and
I
I
bring
it
into
my
heart
and
and
I
hope
that
everybody
else
that
hears
you
as
you
move
throughout
the
community
recognizes
the
importance
of
this
one
special
day
that
we
set
aside
as
a
nation
to
honor
the
folks
that
have
fought
for
us
and
have
given
their
lives
so
that
we
can
live.
You
know
an
open
in
a
free
Society.
So
thank
you
very
much.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
sacrifice
that
you
didn't
choose
your
your
loved
one
chose
this
life,
and
so
you,
you
made
that
sacrifice
when
they
passed
I,
particularly
loved
the
words
that
you
read
ma'am
from
the
the
veteran,
because
one
of
the
things
we
we
don't
often
think
about
is
it's
is
the
toll
on
the
families,
but
also
the
soldiers
who
are
left
behind.
Who
are
friends
so
I
hope
you
were
able
to
to
keep
some
of
those
connections
strong
to
help.
C
V
My
colleagues
have
said
the
things
I
wanted
to
say,
but
I
want
to
say
thank
you
also
for
your
sacrifices
and
thank
you
for
the
commitment
your
families
have
made.
Thank
you
for
coming
here
today
to
tell
us
the
stories
to
remind
us
of.
A
V
And
also
of
what
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
on
Monday,
this
is
a
community
that
is
proud
to
have
a
strong
military
presence
and
we're
proud
of
our
military
officials
out
there
and
we'll
all
be
thinking
and
praying
for
those
families
like
yours
who
have
lost
loved
ones
and
those
who
who
have
to
worry
about
their
family
members
when
they're
overseas
all
the
time.
If
there's
anything,
we
can
do
to
help
make
sure
we
keep
these
stories
alive.
Please
let
us
know
and
thank
you
to
council
member
Viera
for
bringing
you
today.
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
I'll
rub
up
by
saying
every
day
is
Memorial
Day,
it's
not
a
celebration.
It's
a
somber
day
of
remembrance
and
remembering
those
that
made
the
ultimate
sacrifice,
two
of
whom
are
represented
here
today.
You
as
the
families
and
and
I've
said
this
before
and
I'll
say
it
again
that
there's
a
saying
that
says
we
die
twice
when
we
take
our
last
breath
and
when
somebody
speaks
our
name
for
the
last
time.
B
B
When
I
say
decorating,
leaving
an
American
flag
and
saying
hey,
you
are
not
forgotten
and
we
remember
you
and
we
are
grateful
for
you
and
that's
what
we
have
to
understand,
that
we
can
never
forget
those
individuals
that
that
did
what
they
did
for
us
and
we
can't
take
that
for
granted.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
their
sacrifice
for
your
sacrifice,
for
what
you've
had
to
endure
for
what
you've
had
to
suffer
through,
but
thank
you
most
of
all
for
keeping
their
memories
alive.
Thank
you.
So
much
councilman
vera
for
bringing.
Q
Everyone
here
today
and
if
I
may,
Mr
Cheryl
I,
wanted
to
give
these
families
I
printed
out.
I
got
pictures
of
this
with
President
Kennedy,
with
his
brother,
Joe
Kennedy,
who
is
of
course
killed
in
action
in
in
World
War
II.
So
just
the
the
you
know,
one
of
our
I
think
two
at
least
two
presidential
families
were
gold.
Star
fan
families.
This
is
one
of
them,
so
I
wanted
to
give
this
to
y'all
if
I
may.
So.
Thank
you.
Council.
W
Good
morning,
kamaria
Pettis
Michael
from
the
legal
department
as
a
reminder
on
April
6
2023
I,
presented
to
city
council
for
first
reading
consideration
an
ordinance
to
provide
the
zoning
department
in
code
enforcement
in
additional
tool
to
enforce
violations
of
prohibited
signs,
which
is
found
in
City
of
Tampa
code.
Section
27-289.7.
W
During
that
presentation
there
were
several
questions
regarding
the
code
and,
as
a
result,
the
item
was
continued
to
this
Workshop
before
I
have
also
with
me
are:
is
Eric
Cotton,
a
development
coordination
manager
with
the
zoning
department
with
development
and
growth
management,
who
will
provide
examples
of
prohibited
signs,
also
Susan
Limerick
who's,
the
code
enforcement
senior
supervisor.
W
She
will
explain
why
the
department
why
the
Departments
are
asking
to
have
an
additional
tool
to
enforce
violations
of
this
code
after
the
Departments
are
able
to
speak
to
city
council
and
answer
any
questions
that
city
council
may
have.
If
it's
the
pleasure
of
city
council
I,
would
ask
that
this
item
be
continued
to
a
regular
city
council
agenda
for
first
reading
consideration
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Mr
cotton.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
X
X
I,
think
the
ones
that
were
that
have
been
focused
on
by
staff
as
the
biggest
concern
I
didn't
take
pictures
from
anybody's
property,
because
I
didn't
want
to
show
possible
violations
in
front
of
the
city
council.
These
are
the
stock
photos
off
the
internet.
This
is
what
a
feathers.
So
these
are
the
feather
slides.
You
see,
there's
a
lot
in
front
of
you
know
now
open
the
name
of
the
business.
You
know
grand
opening
for
sale
whatever
that
might
be.
X
These
are
often
a
problem.
They
look
good
for
probably
two
or
three
months
and
they
the
wind
like
after
yesterday's
storm,
starts
to
shred
them
as
they
bake
in
the
Florida
sun
and
such
the
other
signs
that
we
all
see
a
lot
of
times
are
the
you
know,
the
dancing
man
that's
in
front
of
a
lot
of
times
in
front
of
car
dealerships
to
bring
your
attention
to
the
dealership
itself.
Those
are
also
prohibited
signs,
as
are
A-frame
signs.
X
You'll
see
some
of
these
in
downtown
or
you'll,
see
these
in
front
on
sidewalks
in
front
of
businesses
and
the
other
one
that
comes
up
to
be
an
issue
at
times
are
also
vehicle
size.
Now
these
signs
are
not
signs
that
you
see
on
the
side
of
a
business.
That's
advertising
itself,
that's
driving
around
town.
These
are
actually
trucks
that
have
nothing
on
them,
but
the
sign
that's
advertising
and
off
a
business.
That's
somewhere
else
in
this
city,
but
not
not
related
to
the
truck
itself
and
those
are
those
are
the
main
examples.
X
I
gave
I
I
printed
out,
but
again
there
are
a
number
of
prohibited
songs.
Like
I
said
at
the
beginning
of
the
present
presentation,
do
y'all
have
any
questions
for
me.
Yes,.
B
Sir,
yes,
sir,
now
what
about
political
science
I
saw
that
in
the
last
election
cycle
it
wasn't
really
enforced
because
there's
sign
regulations
through
the
supervisor
of
elections
and
other
statutes
and
whatnot
there
were
signs
that
were
bigger
than
they
were
supposed
to
be
I.
Believe
the
commercial
signs
should
be
two
by
four
two
feet
by
four
feet,
and
I
saw
signs
that
were
much
bigger
and
then
signs
that
were
on
right-of-ways
and
medians
was
code,
just
told
not
to
enforce
anything
or
what
happened
there.
I.
X
Can't
speak
to
the
enforcement
side
of
it,
Susan
wendrick
from
code
enforcement
might
be
able
to
address
that
political
signs
are
considered
temporary
signs,
you're
supposed
to
have
them
up,
I
believe
it's
30
days
or
either
30
or
60
days
prior
to
the
election
they're
supposed
to
come
down
seven
days
after
the
election.
Signs
that
are
in
the
right
of
way
are
actually
illegal
and
part
of
the
issue
which
we
could
amend.
X
Chapter
27,
if
that
was
the
intent
of
council
to
address
political
science
specifically,
but
you
know
the
science
through
the
typical
code
enforcement
process.
If
someone
is
cited
for
having
a
sign
up
like
that
by
the
time
they
go
through
the
process,
the
election's
over,
because
it's
a
long
it's
about
a
two
to
three
month
process
from
the
time
you're
first
originally
started,
and
then
two
even
get
close
to
going
before
a
magistrate.
V
I
I
heard
a
lot
of
complaints
about
that
and
complaints
about
code
enforcement
not
doing
anything
on
those
I
know,
that's
not
your
area,
but
it.
It
gave
the
impression
that
the
city
didn't
care
as
the
as
the
campaign
went
on,
but
the
ones
that
I
see
the
most
are
the
five-minute
parking
signs
and
now
there's
some
new
ones
that
have
popped
up,
which
are
the
city
ordinance
says
you
can't
park
within
20
feet
of
a
driveway
or
something
like
that.
V
They're
they're
all
over
the
place
and
they
they're
made
to
look
like
they're
legal
signs.
What's
the
status
of
those
and
the
the
five
minute
parking
signs,
I
think
have
been
illegal
for
like
eight
years
now,
so
we
still
have
them
I'm
sorry,
I
didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you
I
apologize
yeah,
so
it
it
is.
Is
there
any
kind
of
enforcement
of
that
going
on
and
I
and
and
I
assume
that's
included
in
here
somewhere.
X
Right
the
reason
fortunate
that
should
have
government
signs,
there's
there's
a
whole.
Let
me
I.
X
And
the
other
signs
which
you
can
see
imitator
resemble
official
traffic
or
government
size.
Those
are
illegal,
so
the
history
of
the
ordinance
with
the
with
the
five-minute
parking
signs.
My
understanding
is
that
was
ruled
by
a
court
that
those
were
not
legal
signs
that
could
not
be
legally
enforceable.
People
still
had
them
up
and
then
I
believe
the
impetus
of
why
it
became
an
issue
was
neighbors
started,
complaining
on
other
neighbors
about
those
signs
being
up
now.
X
The
sign
that's
you're
allowed
to
have
warning
signs
are
allowed
to
be
on
properties
and
I.
Believe
that's
what
the
driveway
sign
now
is.
That
is
a
warning
sign
and
again
we
don't
regulate
on
signs
most
for
most
points
of
speech.
If
someone
were
to
put
up
a
sign
that
said
no
parking
in
front
of
my
property,
it's
not
enforceable
by
the
city.
So
if
somebody
wants
to
park
there,
they
can
still
park
there,
but
within.
A
V
The
ruling-
and
so
it
seems
like
we
should
be
doing
something
about
them
and
now
the
new
those
new
driveway
signs
are
popping
up
and
and
if
then,
if
for
anybody
in
the
neighborhoods
that
are
that
are
looking.
If,
if
you
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
parking
in
your
neighborhood,
let's
have
a
conversation
about
that,
but
we
shouldn't
have
illegal
signs
out
there
and
it's
it.
V
I
I
think
it
caused
a
lot
of
parking
additional
parking
issues
because
it
pushes
people
in
other
areas
and
even
when
they
were
legal,
I
never
used
one,
because
every
now
and
then
you
have
an
event
at
your
house,
and
you
want
to
have
people
park
in
front
of
other
people's
houses.
I
don't
agree
with
those
signs
anyway.
V
The
other
the
other
one
I
want
to
ask
about
is
there's
Mobility
is
trying
to
to
solve
speeding
in
neighborhoods
by
putting
up
more
four-way
stops
and
stop
signs,
but
there
are
still
some
neighbors
that
feel
that
people
are
driving
too
fast.
So
they'll
put
up
temporary
children
at
play,
Signs,
what's
the
rule
on
those.
X
If
someone
puts
up
and
they
take
some
take
them
in
I,
don't
believe
code
enforcement
does
the
enforcement
on
those
unless
it
becomes
actually
a
problem.
I
can
let
you
know.
Susan
Limerick
can
respond
if
there
isn't
any
kind
of
enforcement
on
those,
but
those
are
temporary
signs
usually
they're
out
and
they
come
back
in
when
the
kids
are
no
longer
playing
in
the
front
yard
or
the
street,
depending
where
you
live.
B
B
U
Of
our
restaurant
districts
are
using
A-frame
signs,
we're
prohibiting
those
and
but
is
there
any
discussion
about.
X
U
X
U
Mean
I
my
opinion
is
that
I
think
we
should
look
at
that
as
we're
encouraging
more
of
an
urban
landscape,
and
you
know
you
go
to
City
centers
around
the
world.
You
see
this
and
you
know
specials
of
the
day
and
restaurants
and
use
this
as
a
way
of
learning,
customers
and
I.
Think
it
adds
to
the
streetscape,
so
I
would
encourage
actually
pursuing
something
like
this
and
giving
them
the
ability
to
to
our
customers.
I
think
it's
kind
of
an
advancement
where
we
are
in
the
city
of
Tampa.
H
H
However,
we
send
out
mixed
signals,
and
let
me
explain
that
we
showed
a
picture
here
of
a
van
about
eight
foot
by
1250
foot
wide
with
a
sign
that
can
go
up
and
down
that
one
right
there.
Yes,
sir,
if
that's
illegal,
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
a
private,
whether
public
bus
system?
That
has
signs
from
call
me
when
you
get
hurt,
go
eat
at
Joe's
and
those
are
buses
sponsored
by
the
taxpayers,
taxpayers,
money,
advertising
so
I'm
just
trying
to
pay
a
difficult
advocate.
X
H
Look
at
it,
no,
no
I'm,
not
saying
when
you
look
at
it
I'm
just
saying
it
has
that
ever
been
challenged
in
court.
I
can't
I'm
not
answering
that
either
because
I
don't
think
it
would
fly.
You
can't
have
it
for
one
sector,
not
for
the
other.
The
government
cannot
supersede
the
people
that
they're
governing
and
I'm
not
talking
about
you,
sir.
You
do
it
by
the
law.
I
know
that
for
a
fact
and
and
Court
enforcement
does
it
by
the
line
I
appreciate
both
of
you
and
the
staff
that
you
work
with.
H
However,
we
have
to
be
very
careful
in
what
we
do,
because,
like
you're
talking
about
those
sizes,
the
five-minute
parking,
as
you
well
said
in
rightly
so-
some
individual
file
a
lawsuit
about
three
or
four
years
ago,
and
that's
squashed
all
that.
But
yet
people
put
it
there
for
assurances
that
maybe
somebody
doesn't
know
the
real
law
and
they
can
park
their
own
car
up
front.
That's
what
it's
all
about,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
I
appreciate
your
comments
very
much.
C
You
I
appreciate
the
examples,
I
think
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
very
confused
about
in
the
first
time.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
putting
the
effort
to
talk
to
show
us.
The
visuals
are
very
appreciated
and
and
makes
clear
what
we're
trying
to
do,
but
the
issue
that
that
we're
bringing
up
is
being
able
to
to
find
people
can
you
can
we
go
into
like
the
steps
involved
in
that
so
say,
we're
talking
about
the
A-frame
sign
would
would
that
be
something
that
would
be
immediate.
C
Would
that
would
would
a
person
who
puts
that
A-frame
sign
out
immediately
be
fined
or
is
there
another
process
we
talked?
You
mentioned
the
political
signs
when
chair
Maniscalco
was
talking
about
the
very
big
signs
from
the
political
campaigns
that
we
just
went
through,
and
you
said
well
by
the
time
they
go
through
the
process
the
election's
already
over.
But
for
my
from
my
understanding
this,
this
ordinance
is
supposed
to
help
bring
or
to
enable
our
Code
Enforcement
Officers
to
find
people.
Where
does
that
come
into
play?
I.
X
Can
let
Susan
mention
talk
about
it,
but
just
there's
nothing
in
the
code
that
will
require
somebody
to
get
an
immediate,
fine,
I
believe
that,
to
the
discretion
of
the
officer
to
go
in
and
say,
Hey,
you
know,
your
federal
signs
you
have
out
are
not
allowed
by
code.
Could
you
please
take
them
down
and
if
not,
we
can
come
back
and
issue
you
a
citation
come
back
a
week
later.
C
That
is
the
clarification
that
I
was
looking
for,
so
this
this
really
stops
people
from
just
taking
that
two
to
three
month
window
and
stops
you
from
being
able
to
enforce
it
further.
Yes,.
Z
Ma'am
good
morning,
I'm
Susan
wenrick,
with
code
enforcement,
we
always
afford
due
processed
signs
that
are
on
private
property
and
we
always
take
the
educational
approach
first.
This
is
this
will
enable
us
to
get
through
the
process
quicker
for
those
that
want
to
ride
the
system
and
play
the
game
of
the
system.
It'll
allow
us
that
ability
to
reduce
the
proliferation
of
signs
and
the
visual
blight
in
the
city,
which
was
the
intent
of
the
code
when
passing
these
prohibited
signs.
C
Yes,
yes
and
I
I
really
do
appreciate
the
the
specificity
with
what
with
what
you're
saying.
So
so
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
prevent
people
from
gaming
that
two
to
three
month
system
by
having
to.
C
Z
The
whole
purpose
of
this
with
these
type
of
signs
was
to
reduce,
reduce
the
proliferation
of
signs
and
visual
blight
in
our
city,
so
by
them
keeping
them
up
for
months
on
end,
it
kind
of
counterproductive
when
we
can
do
the
citation
and
go
through
the
civil
court
process
and
it's
for
the
Bad
actors
and
again
we
always
take
the
educational
approach
and
a
four
due
process.
Thank.
H
Thank
you,
chairman
Susan.
Thank
you
very
much
for
you
and
what
your
department
does.
However,
you're
really
hammered
by
some
of
these
things
that
we
don't
do,
and
let
me
explain
that
I
I
believe
the
biggest
violators
are
those
signs
that
says
no
parking
period.
H
I
have
never
heard
of
somebody
getting
one
ticket
for
parking
under
or
no
parking
sign.
I'm,
not
saying
you
haven't
done
it
because
doing
game
days.
I
can
give
you
an
example:
I've
visited
with
some
individuals
that
live
and
work
and
play
close
to
the
stadium
on
Hymes
and
between
Himes
and
Dale
Mabry
and
Tampa,
Bay
and
MLK.
H
What
you
see
there
there's
a
a
substation
that
belongs
to
TECO
and
nothing
wrong
with
that.
We
need
them.
However,
around
all
that
area,
it
says
no
parking
around
the
substation
and
I
have
met
with
some
owners
of
properties.
There
I've
met
with
some
business
people
there,
and
they
tell
me
that
doing
game
days,
whether
it's
a
game,
a
football
game
there
that
there's
individuals
from
the
public
that
are
parking
cars
selling
to
park
here
and
charging
for
some
piece
of
property.
It's
not
even
theirs
and
and
and
I
I've
heard.
This
believe
me.
A
Z
That's
the
parking
division
in
the
Tampa
Police
Department
I'm
sure
that
they
do
and
can
issue
citations
or
tickets
immediately.
What
we're
asking
for
is
ability
to
do
citations
through
the
civil
court
process
for
private
property
signs
that
are
illegal
or
prohibited
as
far
as
the
parking
ordinance.
Yes,
that
is
enforced.
H
You
yourself
you're
the
homeowner,
but
you
yourself
didn't
do
that.
It
was
two
homeowners
before
you
that
did
that
and
they
put
up
something
and
they
sell
it
to
you.
However,
when
we
pass
an
ordinance
or
whatever
it
was
about
that
piece
of
property,
we
never
record
that
in
that
I
know
of
anyway
into
when
you
check
you
sell
the
property,
you
don't
have
to
do
the
check
the
attorneys.
You
got
to
go
all
that
stuff
to
get
done.
It's
never
recorded
So.
H
Nobody
knows,
however,
you're
the
third
owner
and
you're
the
one
that
got
me
before.
Code
enforcement
because
Court
enforcement
did
their
job,
but
it
wasn't
you
that
did
it
and
not
only
do
we
have
that
problem
in
the
city,
we
have
it
in
the
county,
because
I
had
an
intervention
called
me
and
I
asked
him
where
you
live
at.
He
said:
I
lived,
I
said
that's
outside
the
county,
so
he's
going
through.
He
double
hockey
sticks
that
I
cleaned
that
up
pretty
good
to
get
something
done
because
what's
happening
there
is.
Z
Chances
are
that
work
was
done
without
permit,
so
I
would
get
with
Construction
Services
to
find
out
how
it
is
they
process.
Those
cases
do
they
require
Structural
Engineers
to
come
in
after
the
fact
do
they
approve
it
after
the
fact
is
there
a
special
use
approval,
a
setback
waiver.
There's
got
to
be
something
in
the
process
to
do
that,
but.
H
X
B
H
And
I
I
may
I
apologize.
I
knew
one
minute.
There's
another
thing:
we've
got
to
fix
illegal
work
of
what
Mr
Khan
just
brought
up
is
not
done
Monday
through
Thursday.
It's
done
Friday
afternoon
to
Sunday
evening,
and
we
don't
have
any
court
enforcements
or
any
preponderance
of
Court
enforcement.
We
have
maybe
one.
Z
C
W
Thank
you
for
the
question
councilwoman.
Whatever
is
the
pleasure
of
council.
C
C
Is
too
too
soon
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
have
this
come
back
June
15th
during
regular
session?
We.
Y
U
Exactly
it
just
seems
like
on
government,
we
should,
you
know,
try
to
you
know,
make
our
our
rules
kind
of
fit.
What
some
of
the
reality
is
too,
and
so
we,
you
know,
and
I
and
I,
see
these
these
A-frame
signs
in
town.
So
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
ask,
after
return
to
City
Council
on
that,
what
was
it.
X
U
My
gut
tells
me
let's
stick
to
the
central
business
district
and
channel
side,
and
you
know
if
that
works
and
there's
some
need
in
the
future
to
expand
it
beyond
that.
But
it
seems
like
a
good
idea.
Just
to
you
know,
start
Central
and
look
to
expand
it
beyond
that
and
Ybor
City
Central
Business
Channelside
in
Ybor
City
all
right.
Thank
you.
X
C
C
And
then
I
just
needed
to
clarify
my
motion.
Mr
Shelby
asks
that
I
make
sure
that
I
say
that
this
is
her
first
reading
consideration
bringing
this
back
on
June
15th
for
first
reading
consideration.
My
apologies.
Thank
you.
Mr
Shelby
for
clarifying.
B
Do
we
have
anybody
that
wishes
to
speak
public
comment
regarding
this
all
right,
I
see
no
one!
Next
up,
we
have
answers
to
the
questions
submitted
by
Cheryl
Schroeder
and
to
provide
a
carbon
copy
to
Jim,
gineko
and
Cheryl.
Schroeder
I
see
Jim
Jim
you're
in
the
back
right
yeah
there.
He
is
so
if
we
have
anybody
presenting
from
staff,
yes,
ma'am,
okay,.
B
F
Apologies,
so
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present.
We
have
been
working
on
The
Apprentice
ordinance
and
really
appreciate
the
fact
that
it
does
provide
opportunities
for
people
to
have
economic
mobility
and
really
move
into
the
middle
class.
So
there
were
a
number
of
questions
that
were
submitted
by
Mr
geneco
and
the
unions
relating
to
the
ordinance.
Since
that
time,
we've
had
some
opportunity
to
meet
with
them
separately
and
also
go
over
the
questions
both
separately
in
person
and
also
through
the
phone.
F
B
Z
B
Q
And
I
I
think
staff
were
working
with
all
the
different
stakeholders
on
this
I
I
see
my
my
good
buddy
Jim
jadeco
who's
such
a
great
guy,
just
one
of
my
favorite
people-
and
you
know
we
work
for
a
long
time
together
to
try
to
make
this
apprenticeship
ordinance
come
forward
and
it-
and
it
is
I-
know
that
I
was
talking
with
someone
on
the
numbers
at
Hannah
yesterday,
and
it
appears
that
we're
you
know
almost
meeting
that
12
percent,
which
is
really
really
good,
I,
mean
that
that's
a
big
deal
and
I
always
the
the
magic
number
that
we
came
to
in
the
ordinance
was
12
and-
and
there
is
a
a
good
faith
provision
for
good
faith
compliance.
Q
So
not
big
big
projects
like
that
not
getting
the
12
is
something
that
is
foreseeable.
So
getting
almost.
There
is
a
big
deal,
especially
when
this
is
something
that's
new,
so
this
is
I
mean
this.
This
is
something
that's
really
good.
I
know:
St
Petersburg
is
having
some
legal
challenges.
It's
in
the
Appeals
right
now
and
we'll
see
what
happens
there
with
the
ordinance
which
is
distinguishable
from
ours.
Q
On
a
number
of
issues,
but
again
this
is
something
that
that,
like
you
said,
is,
is
a
really
Stellar
ordinance
and
we
had
so
much
help
with
staff
and
we'll
we'll
continue
to
God
willing,
just
see
the
the
benefits
and
the
result
of
it.
So
just
wanted
to
thank
everybody,
including
Jim,
and
everybody
for
for
all
your
work
and
staff
everybody
for
putting
this
together,
because
this
was
took
a
lot
of
work
and
it'll
pay
off
big
time,
especially
for
young
folks
who
just
want
a
shot
of
life.
F
We've
taken
several
visits
to
the
facilities
to
to
see
what's
there
and
really
encourage
the
programs,
they
do
a
stellar
job
so
much
so
that
other
Industries
are
now
looking
at
how
they
structure
their
training
and
putting
Apprentice
programs
for
for
programs
like
healthcare
and
other
Industries.
Wonderful.
C
And
so
what
I
would
simply
ask
is
to
continue
that
partnership
and
in
any
way
possible
that
we
can
bring
our
already
Stellar
apprenticeship
programs
that
that
already
exist
and
really
encourage
folks
to
not
reinvent
the
wheel,
work
with
the
unions
that
we
have
and
I
expect
to
continue
that
wonderful
relationship.
Thank
you
so
much
and
thank
you
to
Mr,
janeco
and
all
of
the
people
that
he
works
with
and
can
continuing
to
to
build.
This
relationship.
U
You
know,
echoing
what
everyone
else
said
about
about
these
programs
and
I
want
to
encourage.
You
know
my
my
brothers
and
sisters
in
labor
and
my
brothers
and
sisters
in
the
city
and
and
buildings
and
trades
and
all
the
folks
in
this
community
work
together
to
find
these
types
of
Creative
Solutions
and
for
those
people
that
are
listening
today
and
if
they
have
family
members
or
friends
that
are
looking
for
a
trade.
U
If
you
need
assistance
in
getting
in
touch
with
some
of
those
programs,
I'm
sure
you
can
contact
any
one
of
us
up
here
and
we'll
be
happy,
our
office
will
be
happy
to
connect
them
to
those
those
trade
organizations
to
be
able
to
get
that
type
of
training
and
set
their
career
off
and
and
do
a
better
life.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you
very
much
and
again.
This
is
very
important
and
it's
wonderful,
because
College
isn't
for
everybody
and
you
have
young
kids
that
are
graduating.
They
don't
know
what
to
do
and
getting
involved
in
these
programs.
They
learn
they
get
paid
they're
in
a
good
wage,
with
benefits
and
they're
on
the
paths
of
the
American
dream.
I've
said
it
a
million
times
and
I'm
going
to
keep
saying
it
that
you
will
have
a
good
life
and
you're
you.
You
become
part
of
a
family
because
with
unions
they
look
out
for
each
other.
B
They
protect
you.
You
know
you
work
hard
and
you
can
get
on
that
path.
To
the
American
dream
and
I
mean
I've
met
many
people,
my
brother-in-law,
he
graduated
high
school,
went
right
into
construction.
He
and
my
sister
have
a
great
life.
He
works
hard,
but
they
have
a
good
life
and
no
regrets
there.
If
I
could
go
back,
I'd
go
into
you
know,
Plumbing
or
welding,
or
even
electrical
work,
because
I
mean
they're,
making
they're
making
bank
they're
working
hard,
but
the.
B
The
folks
they're
they
do
very,
very
well,
so
it's
it's
very
important,
I'm
glad
that
Council,
remember,
Viera,
championed
this,
and
so
many
other
council
members
to
give
people
New
Opportunities,
because
people
look
at
us
and
they
go
what
about
jobs?
What
about
jobs
right
here?
This
is
creating
the
environment
and
creating
that
pathway
and
getting
there
so
great,
very,
very
good
work.
Thank.
T
I
just
want
to
say
Kudos,
as
well
as
a
Career
and
Technical
education.
Teacher
apprenticeships
work
all
day
every
day.
Every
time
I
pay,
my
plumber,
electrician
and
the
ACI
is
very
painful,
but
they're
living
great
quality
of
lives
because
of
it,
and
we
do
have
to
encourage
kids,
who
are
not
interested
in
college,
that
this
is
a
great
pathway,
not
only
a
pathway
for
just
the
apprenticeship
program,
but
even
starting
your
own
business
and
so
I
just
kudos
to
you
all
anything
that
I
can
do
to
support
this.
G
I'll
make
one
quick
comment:
Jim
Jane
Echo,
thanks
so
much
to
all
of
you
on
Council.
My
admiration
is
extended
to
you
as
well
Lewis.
Thanks
for
your
kind
remarks.
G
I
just
want
to
point
out
that
on
the
on
the
Hannah
Avenue
project,
we
we
appreciate
having
these
the
answers
that
we're
given
today
we
had
the
opportunity
to
review
a
spreadsheet
that
showed
some
of
the
apprentices
and
the
wages
I'd
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
point
out
that
there
are
non-union
apprentices
on
the
project
and
there
are
union
apprentices
on
the
project
and
the
highest
earning
Apprentice.
Is
a
union
Apprentice
thanks
very
much
there.
B
AA
Morning,
city,
council,
Gene,
Duncan
administrator
for
infrastructure,
Mobility
I'm
here
also
with
our
CFO
Dennis
your
hero.
We
have
a
request
if
you,
if
you
wouldn't
mind,
considering
a
request,
our
cfo's
item
is
actually
number
nine.
My
item
is
number
four.
They
actually
are
closely
integrated
with
each
other
and
we
feel
like
we
could
give
you
a
good
flow
if
we
could
have
number
nine
heard
first,
followed
by
number
four.
So
if
that's
meet
your
approval,
we'd
like
to
make
that.
AA
N
AB
AB
AB
Good
morning
again,
Dennis
rohero
Chief
Financial
Officer,
thanks
for
having
us
here
for
our
fiscal
year,
23
mid-year
and
Capital
Improvements
program
review
as
Ms
Duncan
said,
I'll
start
off
with
the
mid-year,
giving
an
overview
of
how
we're
doing
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
including
an
expanded,
Capital
Improvement
program
component
and
the
Miss
Duncan
and
Ms
Duncan
and
her
team
will
come
in
with
even
more
as
many
of
you
know.
We
do
this
every
year
about
this
time.
Council
will
recall
when
they
approve
the
budget
for
this
year,
we're
not
even
out
of
last
year.
AB
So
there's
a
great
deal
of
educated
guesswork
and
professional
projections
going
on
looking
forward.
Now,
we've
got
about
a
half
a
year
in
the
current
fiscal
year
under
our
belt.
So
we'll
tell
you
how
we're
doing
just
a
reminder
to
new
members
of
council
just
like
the
mayor's
budget
presentation
that
you'll
get
in
August.
Typically,
we
don't
provide
this
information
ahead
of
time.
We
prefer
giving
it
to
council
as
a
body
and
the
public
concurrently.
So
you
have
the
professionals
here
to
answer
questions
and
walk
through
it.
AB
AB
Got
the
clicker,
maybe
I'm,
not
using
it
all
right,
maybe
I
am
using
a
drive
all
right.
It's
the
hardest
part
of
the
presentation.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
bless
you,
as
we
typically
do
we'll
start
off
with
a
brief
refresher
of
the
current
year
budget.
You
saw
this
when
you
approved
the
budget
back
in
September,
nearly
1.9
billion
dollars
with
the
two
largest
components,
as
they
typically
are.
The
Enterprise
funds
on
the
right
and
in
the
lower
left,
the
general
fund,
both
of
them
together
over
three-fourths
of
our
total
budget.
AB
There
we
go,
and
here
are
those
two
main
funds
right
now
on
the
left:
the
bulk
of
the
general
funds,
Public
Safety,
Parks,
I'm,
sorry,
Public
Safety,
which
includes
just
so
you
know
the
Police
Department
fire
department
and
code
enforcement
and
then
moving
into
Parks
and
Recreation
Economic
Development
and
support
operations,
That's
That,
central
government
slice.
You
see
right
there
on
the
right,
the
utility
departments,
primarily
the
Water
waste
water
and
solid
waste
departments.
AB
I'm
going
to
start
with
the
general
fund
first,
this
is
typically
a
big
part
of
our
Focus
and
we
emphasize
it
for
a
few
different
reasons.
As
I've
said
before,
this
is
the
money.
The
mayor
and
city
council
have
the
most
flexibility
in
spending.
It
can
be
spent
generally
on
anything,
and
thus
the
name.
It's
the
general
fund
I
like
to
call
it
our
most
valuable
dollars,
but
because
of
that
flexibility,
it's
also
the
subject
of
more
demands
and
more
varied
demands,
because
again,
Council
in
the
mayor
can
spend
it
on
whatever
you
see
fit.
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
So,
let's
start
with
the
general
fund
history,
but
first
a
few
words
about
how
we're
doing
we're
doing
very
well
I'm,
very
pleased,
and
we
are
very
fortunate
to
have
a
strong
financial
position
and
that's
no
accident.
That's
by
Design,
it's
a
well-thought-out
plan,
but
you've
heard
me
say
it
before,
and
it's
still
true
that
tolerances
remain
pretty
tight.
AB
AB
So
not
only
are
we
not
going
to
be
able
to
recognize
that
recurring
revenue
for
years
and
years
and
years
we've
still
got
about
60
million
dollars
up
in
Tallahassee
that
we
can't
use
from
the
previous
collections
again.
I,
don't
need
to
tell
you
of
our
transportation
needs,
as
we've
also
discussed
before
and
we'll
talk
about
it
again,
I'm
absolutely
certain
that
Community
investment
tax
is
sunsetting
in
2026.
right
now.
That
brings
in
about
30
million
dollars
a
year.
That's
a
lot
of
money.
AB
What's
going
to
replace
it,
will
a
Federal
Reserve
continue
to
raise
rates?
I,
certainly
don't
know.
It
seems
like
if
it's
Monday
they're
going
to
pause.
If
it's
Tuesday
they're
going
to
do
it
again
that
again
has
real
world
implications
I'm,
not
even
going
to
get
into
the
debt
ceiling
and
federal
budget
discussions.
We
don't
have
that
much
time,
but
we
experience
the
real
world
implications
of
that
Monday.
AB
Did
we
not
I
read
this
morning
that
I
believe
yeah
Fitch
Fitch
is
pondering
downgrading
the
United
States
credit
rating
of
AAA,
the
best
you
can
get
standard
and
poor
already
did
that
over
a
decade
ago.
I
think
when
the
last
time
it
got
really
sensitive
to
talking
about
the
debt
ceiling,
it
went
from
AAA
to
double
A
Plus
they're,
still
at
Double,
A
Plus
for
standard
and
Poor's.
AB
AB
So
how
is
the
general
fund
balance
doing
it's
doing?
Well,
you
see
from
the
left
from
2016
all
the
way
to
our
projection
for
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
We
we
have
varied
from
24
all
the
way
up
to
28,
and
we
project
will
end
this
year
at
22,
slightly
less
than
the
23
or
24
percent
that
we've
kind
of
gotten
used
to,
but
still
well
above
our
policy
and
that's
the
green
line.
AB
Our
policy
is
20,
we're
well
above
that
about
12
million
dollars,
above
that
at
least
that's
how
we
think
we'll
end
the
year.
I
should
note
that
the
28
and
27
percentages
were
anomalies.
We
didn't
anticipate
that
our
fund
balance
would
remain
that
high,
that's
taking
into
account
all
of
that
Federal
funding
that
came
in
associated
with
the
pandemic.
We
brought
it
in
as
we
discussed
Monday
and
we
did
our
best
to
spend
it.
We're
still
doing
our
best
to
spend
it.
AB
We
like
a
22
to
24
percent
level
and
you
see,
will
end
at
that
22
at
the
end
of
the
year,
at
least
that's
what
we
project.
You
also
note,
of
course,
that,
as
the
general
fund
budget
itself
increases
the
amount
necessary
to
keep
those
stats
increases
from
less
than
80
million
at
20
percent
in
2016
to
over
120
million
just
to
meet
our
policy.
Today,
it
is
indexed
to
how
big
the
budget
is
as
I
typically
do
and
I'm
confident
I'll
continue
to
do.
AB
I
want
to
thank
Council
for
prioritizing
our
fund
balances,
the
strong
fund
balances
and
the
fiscal
sustainability
that
those
fund
balances
bring
really
reflect
positively
in
the
eyes
of
the
rating
agencies.
They
allow
us
to
face
these
economic
uncertainties
with
a
little
more
confidence,
because
we've
got
the
muscle
to
handle
them.
AB
Property
tax
revenues
back
into
property
tax
revenues,
as
we
address
our
general
fund
major
revenues.
Again.
This
is
the
largest
single
source
of
City
Revenue
that
we
have
it'll
actually
come
in
just
a
little
bit
more
than
we
budgeted
this
year.
It's
the
10th
year
in
a
row
that
it's
increased
since
the
Great
Recession.
Of
course,
it
certainly
didn't
increase
during
the
Great
Recession.
AB
AB
Excellent,
you
see,
we
were.
We
have
an
adopted
budget
of
33
million
dollars.
We
think
that's
going
to
come
in
six
million
dollars
more,
which
is
partially
great.
Tico
recently
raised
their
rates,
as
you
know,
so
we
recognize
that
benefit
on
the
revenue
side,
but
the
city
pays
electric
bills
too.
So
we
lose
a
good
portion
of
that
on
our
expenditure
side,
which
we'll
talk
about
well.
AB
Yes,
y'all
y'all,
coordinated
the
same
thing
with
our
electric
utility
services
tax.
Let
me
get
that
off
too
there
we
go,
although
it's
almost
in
the
right
spot
again
doing
very,
very
well
compared
to
budget.
But
again
we
we
take
a
pinch
on
our
city,
electric
bills,
but
we'll
we'll
take
it.
We
we
net
positive
on
that
the
communication
Services
tax,
as
you
can
see
going
from
the
right
I
mean
excuse
me
from
the
left
to
the
right.
It
seems
to
have
plateaued
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
AB
You
know
it's
Dire
Straits,
when
that's
encouraging
about
a
decade
ago,
was
bringing
in
30
million
dollars
a
year.
We're
pleased
to
just
see
it
flatten
out.
That's
a
result
of
a
lot
of
land
lines
going
away
and
we'll
see
if
it
comes
back,
but
a
continuing
series
of
attacks
by
the
Florida
legislature
on
that
particular
Revenue
source.
AB
You
know
when
you're
talking
of
over
about
over
400
million
dollars,
I
think
I
think
that's
pretty
acceptable.
You
know
we'll
trim
it
here
and
there.
Those
are
health,
insurance
increases
and
pay
increases,
but
that's
not
keeping
us
up
at
night.
AB
Here
are
our
operating
costs,
and
here
you
see
some
of
those
inflationary
increases
that
we're
experiencing
out
of
a
budget
of
105
million
or
already
six
million
dollars
over
portion
of
that
is
electricity.
A
portion
of
that
is
vehicle.
Maintenance
portion
of
that
is
fuel
fuel
has
been
somewhat
a
somewhat
erratic
it's
down
now
it
was
up
before
we'll
see
where
it
lands.
I
would
be
remiss,
though,
if
I
did
not
mention
you
know
our
our
aging
Fleet.
AB
We
are
throwing
a
great
deal
of
resources
trying
to
get
our
Fleet,
whether
it's
fire,
police
or
the
or
the
other
operating
departments
we're
throwing
33
million
dollars
at
it
this
year,
but
we've
got
an
old
Fleet
out
there
that
we
simply
weren't
replacing
for
a
long
time,
for
whatever
reason:
prioritization
the
Great,
Recession,
etc,
etc.
And,
of
course,
as
you
go
longer,
without
replacing
those
vehicles,
the
cost
to
maintain
those
aged
Vehicles
continues
to
go
up
and
that's
exactly
what's
happening.
So
you
know
about
I'm,
sorry
about
four
million
dollars
more
I'm.
AB
AB
And
into
the
pensions,
a
very
important
component
of
our
financial
picture
and,
of
course,
a
very
important
issue
for
our
city
of
Tampa
family,
we'll
talk
about
the
short
term
first
and
then
I'll
get
into
the
long
term
with
about
three
billion
dollars
in
Combined
assets.
These
funds
rely
primarily
on
investment
and,
although
last
year
was
a
tough
year,
I
think
pretty
much.
Everybody
was
part
of
a
club
that
nobody
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
you
know
in
terms
of
the
stock
market,
etc,
etc.
This
year
much
more
positive.
AB
You
see
the
fire
and
police
pension
program
in
front
of
you
is
just
about
right
on
budget,
maybe
a
little
higher,
and
this
is
the
general
employees
pension
budget
right
on
target
so
far,
so
we'll
take
that
a
little
bit
of
background,
as
you
probably
know,
but
these
funds
are
anticipated
to
last
pretty
much
forever
the
city's
going
to
be
around
forever.
People
are
always
going
to
come
to
work
and
retire
from
the
city.
So
we
look
at
these
funds
I'm
on
both
pension
boards.
AB
I
say
that
to
say,
because
the
funding
ratio,
what
we
call
the
funding
ratio,
becomes
very,
very
important.
It's
a
it's
an
important
figure,
a
prized
figure,
whether
locally
or
Nationwide,
I
have
a
compliment:
city
council,
the
mayor
past
City
councils,
past
mayors
and
current
and
past
pension
boards.
We
have
made
some
very,
very
good
decisions
when
it
comes
to
these
Pension
funds.
AB
A
very
large
example,
you
may
have
heard
of
some
cities
out
there
taking
what
they
call
pension
holidays.
That's
where,
in
order
to
save
money
in
their
budget
excuse,
they
won't
make
the
required
contribution
to
their
pension
fund
they'll.
Let
it
ride
whether
for
a
year
or
successive
years,
depending
on
how
drastic
they
feel
the
action
is
they
have
to
take.
AB
Instead,
the
city
of
Tampa
has
funded
their
its
contributions
year
in
year
out
in
good
times
and
in
bad
I'll
share
with
you
that
right
now
the
Nationwide
average
for
the
funded
ratio
of
Pension
funds
is
less
than
80
percent
about
78
percent.
AB
We
are
very
fortunate
here.
In
the
city
of
Tampa,
the
fire
and
police
pension
fund
was
over
90
percent
in
2022
and
the
general
employees
pension
fund
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
was
86
percent,
nearly
90
percent.
When
you
compare
that
to
the
national
average.
Those
are
very
strong.
Funding
ratios
I,
anticipate
that
we'll
stay.
That
course
in
the
successive
years,
because
it
is
it's
very,
very
important.
People
are
always
going
to
come
work
here.
People
are
always
going
to
retire.
AB
AB
B
AB
I'll
turn
to
that
slide
right
now,
the
it's
a
couple
of
factors:
we've
got
a
planned
rate
increase
for
parking,
it
is
indexed,
it's
not
indexed
directly
to
inflation,
but
as
in
it
is
indexed
three
percent
every
year.
This
is
at
least
mitigating
the
adverse
impact
of
inflation,
but
also,
as
you
said,
increased
activity,
whether
it's
events,
whether
it's
events,
downtown
whether
it's
events
in
Ybor.
There
is
a
great
deal
of
activity
going
on
in
the
parking
Department.
You
see,
we
anticipated
they
would
stay
pretty
much
neutral
in
their
fund
balance.
AB
B
AB
H
Sorry
I'm
sorry,
when
you're
talking
about
parking,
even
though
they
look
great
a
few
years
back,
it
was
the
opposite
yep.
Yes,
sir,
not
doing
well
at
all.
We
had
to
get
money
from
the
general
fund
to
meet
the
expenses.
I
recall.
AB
Thank
you.
No
I
appreciate
you
surfacing
that
history.
Unfortunately,
we
did
have
to
supplement
The
Parking
Department
with
the
general
fund
and
during
a
time
when
we
were
probably
least
able
to
you,
know
following
the
Great
Recession.
So
this
has
been
quite
a
turnaround.
We're
very
happy
with
these
figures.
AB
Solid
Waste
fund
it's
doing
better
than
anticipated,
but
as
as
we
thought
they
would,
they
continue
to
eat
into
their
fund
balance.
If
I
can
point
to
you
right
on
that
point,
I'll
just
put
it
right
here.
AB
The
revenues
are
coming
in
much
better
than
anticid,
but
they're
anticipated,
but
there's
a
reason
for
that.
The
retrofit
that
was
initially
planned
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
We
think
that's
going
to
take
place
in
fiscal
year.
24
now,
and
when
that
retrofit
happens,
there
will
be
some
downtown
downtime
excuse
me
that
will
impact
our
revenues,
but
right
now
looking
better
than
we
originally
anticipated.
AB
As
you
know,
we
are
in
the
midst
of
a
rate
study
for
the
solid
waste
department
and
we
anticipate
issuing
debt
associated
with
those
projects
later
this
year
early
next
year,
the
waste
to
energy
plant.
Things
like
that.
You
know
the
solid
waste
relocation
route,
optimization
any
number
of
things
so
right
now,
Solid
Waste,
is
holding
and
doing
better
than
we
thought
this
year.
AB
The
Wastewater
department
will
dip
into
their
fund
balance
as
planned,
but
slightly
less
so
and
with
waste
water
and
as
you'll,
see
in
water.
Much
of
that
is
dependent
upon
their
project
schedules
when
we'll
need
the
money,
the
cash,
not
just
the
budget,
when
we'll
need
the
cash
to
pay
for
all
of
those
large
projects
that
they're
doing.
AB
AB
Moving
into
our
grants
program
or
what
we
affectionately
call
thanks
to
Gene
Duncan
other
people's
money,
OPM,
as,
as
you
know,
it
has
been
the
Mayors
and
councils
intent
and
goal
to
become
much
more
aggressive
in
seeking
other
people's
money
and
seeking
grants.
And
to
that
end
we
have
reformed
reformatted.
AB
Excuse
me
over
the
last
couple
of
years
how
we
go
about
applying
for
Grant
much
more
cohesive,
much
more
directed
from
a
city-wide
perspective,
instead
of
just
a
departmental
perspective,
and
you
can
see
that
plan
has
paid
off
since
we've
instituted
that
new
system
we've
got
over
125
million
dollars
in
Grants.
You
see
that
up
there
and,
of
course
you
see
that
that
nice
graph
this
year
alone,
we've
already
been
awarded
more
than
the
previous
two
years,
combined
very
successful
program.
Again
I'll
complement
the
Departments
for
all
working
together
and
I.
AB
B
Now,
what
about
our
credit
and
bond
ratings?
Are
they
still
the
AAA
double
a
status.
AB
Yes,
sir,
we
are
still
very,
very
strong.
Our
our
water
Wastewater
systems,
still
Triple
A
across
the
board,
our
implied
rate
for
the
city
and
its
entirety
still
the
second
highest.
You
can
get
we're
very,
very
strong,
and-
and
thank
you
for
asking
that,
because,
as
we
gear
up
for
more
issuance
of
debt,
we'll
be
having
that
same
discussion
only
in
much
more
detail
with
all
three
credit
rating
agencies.
B
AB
H
For
bringing
that
up
very,
very
nicely
Mr
Hera
I
believe
you
said
it,
but
specifically
the
water
is
only
one
of
two
water
units
and
the
State
of
Florida
has
a
triple
A
rating
I.
Believe,
yes,
sir,
and
it's
only
one
of
13
in
the
whole
United
States
of
America
that
has
a
AAA
rating
and
kudos
to
you
and
to
the
public
for
doing
these
things
to
help.
You
know
stressful.
When
you
go
to
the
market,
you
get
a
lower
rate,
you
get
a
great
benefit
of
being
who
you
are
right
on
the
target.
AB
Well,
thank
you
and,
and
and
and
my
confidence
to
everybody,
we've
got
a
fantastic
team
teams
that
run
those
systems.
We've
got
an
educated
public.
We
had,
we
have
a
and
I'll
say
it.
I'll
say
it
even
if
you
weren't
here
a
sophisticated,
sophisticated
Council
that
looks
ahead.
That
makes
the
decisions
the
pipes
program
again.
You
know
I
referenced,
that
I
referenced,
that
internally
I
reference
that
with
other
cities,
I
reference
it
at
the
national
level
and
I'm,
not
the
only
one.
It's
been
very,
very
successful.
C
I'm
sorry,
yes,
I
did
want
to
when
talking
about
grants,
though,
while
technically
it
is
other
people's
money.
It's
really
our
money
that
we've
been
giving
to
the
federal
government
that
we
haven't
been
getting
back
so
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
that
we
really
are
helping
to
recover
those
dollars
that
we
are
paying
to
come
back
and
your
team
and
the
entire
city
has
done
a
phenomenal
job
with
grants.
C
I
really
love
that
when
we're
talking
about
a
project,
one
of
the
first
things
out
of
people's
mouths
is
about
the
types
of
grants
that
are
available
and
I
also
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
that
the
federal
government
right
now
really
is
providing
a
lot
in
the
way
of
grants
for
cities
to
do
many.
C
Many
things
and
I'm
I'm
just
grateful
and
appreciative
of
of
the
entire
staff's
real
attention
and
understanding
of
that
because,
like
you
said
it's
125
million
dollars
that
we
aren't
having
having
to
locally
tax
for,
and
that's
really
really
wonderful
and
I-
think
we
don't
toot
our
own
horn
about
that
enough.
So
just
again
kudos
to
you
and
your
staff
and
the
staff
throughout
the
city
for
really
I
mean
these
are
all
wildly
ranging
different
things
between
the
Riverwalk
and
vision,
zero
and
Public
Safety
and
storm
water.
It's
it
really
hits
every
Target.
AB
AB
And
now
our
expanded
Capital,
Improvement
program
or
CIP
portion
again
I'll
I'll,
give
you
all
a
broad-based
review,
and
then
a
gene
and
her
team
will
come
on
in
these
are,
of
course,
the
big
ticket
items,
a
lot
of
money
and
long
life
spans.
You
know
whether
it's
land
acquisition
design
for
construction
projects,
construction
of
course,
technology
things
like
that
things
that
we're
going
to
spend
a
great
deal
of
money
on
and
that
are
going
to
be
around
for
a
long
time.
AB
If
we
can
start
briefly,
though,
with
where
the
money
comes
from
these
billions
of
dollars
worth
of
projects,
you
see
here,
there's
many
funding
sources.
The
overwhelming
majority
are
on
the
left
under
the
examples
of
restricted
revenues,
and
typically
these
big
ticket
items
are
paid
for
with
funding
that
has
a
lot
of
restrictions
on
them,
whether
it's
state
law,
whether
it's
Bond
covenants,
they
call
them
covenants,
not
agreements
and
they
call
it
covenants
for
a
reason.
AB
They
take
that
stuff
very,
very
seriously
rate
resolutions,
perhaps
grant
funding
you're
required
to
do
a
project
based
on
the
money
you're
getting
from
fill
in
the
blank
agency.
Things
like
that.
So
once
you
once,
you
lock
yourself
in
you're,
pretty
much
on
that
road
on
the
right
very
few
examples
of
unrestricted
funding.
In
fact,
there's
really
only
one
worth
mentioning
and
that's
our
Utility
Services
taxes.
AB
We
fund
a
few
things
through
that
Public
Safety,
Communications
facilities,
maintenance,
Parks
and
Recreation,
mostly
though
I
just
wanted
to
convey
to
you
that
similar
to
what
you
said
earlier,
Mr
chair.
Much
of
the
funding
that
we
have
to
work
with
is
I
has
either
already
been
decided
for
us.
What
we're
going
to
spend
it
on
or
as
part
of
us
drawing
it.
We
have
to
commit
to
what
we're
going
to
spend
it
on
not
a
great
deal
of
flexibility.
AB
AB
Pardon
me,
you
got
not
a
small
amount
of
transportation
funding
in
there
for
the
multimodal
network,
improvements
and
Street
resurfacing,
Parks
and
Recreation
the
largest
project
there.
As
you
know,
it's
the
East
Tampa
recreational
complex.
AB
So
how
are
we
doing
in
the
CIP
if
I
can
take
a
step
back
to
a
bit
of
a
wider
view
of
our
entire
program?
I
think
we're
doing
well.
I,
think
you
see
an
aggressive
plan
similar
to
our
discussion
about
the
American
Rescue
plan
act,
but
on
a
much
larger
level
of
getting
the
funding
and
getting
it
out
the
door
with
over
2.6
billion
dollars
worth
of
current
Appropriations
we've
consumed.
Nearly
two-thirds
of
that
and
consumed
is
just
the
just
the
the
technical
wording
for
either
spent
or
legally
obligated.
AB
So
about
two-thirds
of
that
funding
is
locked.
The
available
balance
is
less
than
a
billion
dollars.
A
billion
dollars
is
still
a
great
deal
of
funding,
but
in
the
great
scheme
of
things
we're
about
two-thirds
through
and
and
we'll
get
into
a
little
more
detail
on
all
of
these
in
just
a
minute
but
I
think
that's
that's
an
aggressive
spending
plan
and
it
doesn't
appear.
We
show
any
sign
of
stopping.
AB
Drilling
down
to
the
departmental
levels,
you
see
facilities
at
81
percent
consumed
and
while
we're
talking
about
81
percent
over
half,
actually
the
overwhelming
majority
of
these
departments
have
spent
over
half.
Excuse
me
of
their
appropriated,
Capital,
Improvement
funding.
I.
Think
you
see
that
anecdotally
out
in
the
community.
We
certainly
see
it
on
the
books.
You
know,
as
as
we're,
reconciling
the
funding
and
making
projections
as
to
where
we
go
facilities.
AB
AB
You
see,
the
community
redevelopment
agency
has
encumbered
or
consumed
over
half
of
their
allocation
already
and
the
convention
center
with
their
Renovations
nearly
90
percent
fire
rescue
fire
rescue
station
improvements
and
renovations,
nearly
60
percent,
the
three
golf
courses
spending
their
money
very
fast
and
infrastructure
and
Mobility.
This
is
separated
out
because
that's
the
comprehensive
infrastructure
for
Tampa's
neighborhoods
I
had
to
read
that
that's
difficult
for
me
to
memorize
nearly
60
million
dollars
and
they're
just
about
closed
out.
AB
Okay,
your
non-department,
your
non-departmental,
consists
of
the
Straz
Center
and
Plant
Hall
improvements,
parking
garages,
we've
talked
about,
we've
got
quite
a
few
of
them.
Some
of
them
are
a
little
long
in
the
tooth.
They
need
work,
we're
building
up
that
fund
balance
and
making
plans
to
address
that
Parks
and
Recreation
somewhat
low,
but
again
most
of
that
is
being
driven
by
the
East
Tampa
Recreation,
Center
and
and
I
anticipate
that
that
spending
will
accelerate
considerably
very
soon
public
Arts
Solid
Waste,
which
we've
discussed.
AB
Transportation
I
mentioned
that
before
over
half
nearly
two-thirds
now
that
I
look
at
it
and
water
and
waste
water
just
moving
very
very
fast.
The
credit
rating
agencies
continue
to
complement
and
be
impressed
by
our
rate
of
spending
in
the
pipes
program
in
the
water
and
wastewater
Department,
bringing
us
back
to
the
totals
that
we
discussed
before
about
two-thirds
consumed
with
about
one-third
left
and
in
just
a
moment
again.
Ms
Duncan
and
her
team
will
get
up
here
with
even
more
detail.
AB
Before
I
hand
it
over
to
Ms
Duncan,
though
we
could
just
go
over
the
budget,
calendar
I
know
we're
talking
about
the
current
year,
but
it
leads,
of
course,
almost
seamlessly
right
into
budget
development.
For
the
next
year,
you've
got
a
workshop
with
the
citizens
advisory
committee
on
June
22nd.
The
mayor
is
scheduled
to
bring
her
recommended
budget
to
you
on
August
3rd,
and
we
have
the
dates
for
the
public
hearings
in
September,
as
we
always
do.
Councilwoman.
B
AB
C
Perfect
so
buy
consumed
we
mean
encumbered
and
spent
yes.
C
AB
It
depends
on
the
project
from
from
our
perspective,
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
we
we
combine
them,
whether
it's
cash
out
the
door
which
is
spent
or
whether
it's
legally
obligated,
which
is
encumbered
from
our
purposes.
It's
gone,
you're
not
pulling
that
back.
How
long
it
goes
from
encumbered
to
spent
will
depend
on
the
project.
Timing.
AB
C
Oh
yeah,
so
that's,
but
definitely
sooner
than
that,
I'm!
Sorry,
yes,
okay,
so
maybe
two
to
three
years.
Okay,
so
I
just
want
the
public
to
understand
that
these
are
for
projects.
We've
already
decided
on
that
money
can't
be
spent
elsewhere.
It's
two
to
three.
It
will
be
completely
expended
in
two
to
three
years.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
V
I,
just
Mr,
chair,
I,
just
I,
didn't
want
to
interrupt
along
the
way.
So
I
wrote
down
a
bunch
of
notes
that
I
want
to
make
comments
and
questions
on
for
the
presentation.
Could
you
go
back
to
the
fund
balance
slide?
Please?
Yes,
sir
every
year,
I
say
the
same
thing,
but
I
just
want
to
reiterate
it
for
anybody
who's
watching
for
the
first
time.
Do
you
remember
what
the
fund
balance
was
in
2011
I.
V
AB
V
In
in
2011
it
was
150
million,
and
that
was
former
mayor
iorio
who,
during
the
Great
Recession
saved
that
money
and
I
talked
to
her
about
it.
She
went
through
and
saved
Penny
by
Penny
to
get
to
that
money.
V
V
Every
year
for
four
years
back
in
2019
I
said,
and
you
and
the
mayor
agreed
that
we
may
come
into
some
kind
of
recession,
we
should
put
more
into
the
fund
route
balance
because
because
we
needed
it
for
a
rainy
day,
we
can't
can't
spend
below
that
green
line.
So
anything
above
that
is
kind
of
our
rainy
day
fund.
Two
percent
is
not
enough.
A
lot
of
people
are
projecting
recession
now
and
just
like
they
were
four
years
ago.
Luckily,
as
you
said,
we
got
a
lot
of
funds
from
the
federal
government.
V
That's
that
supplanted
what
we
saved,
but
we
still
need
to
be
careful
because
we
don't
want
to
cut
Services
during
a
during
a
downtime
and
we
don't
want
to
raise
taxes
either.
Could
you
go
to
the
next
slide?
Please?
Yes,
sir,
the
one
more
sorry,
the
property
tax
revenue
there.
We
are
this
one
I
get
a
lot
of
complaints
about
this,
and-
and
probably
everybody
here
does
people
every
day
are
saying
my
property
taxes.
V
V
If
you,
the
the
number
at
the
far
right,
is
taken
out,
some
people
who've
just
moved
in
the
area.
They
think
they
were
going
to
pay
the
taxes
that
the
firmware
person
did
under
homestead
exemption.
They
find
out
that
the
tags
are
higher,
they
should
have
been
notified,
but
anyway
they
get
surprised.
V
They
think
we're
raising
their
taxes,
we're
really
not
most
people
I
think
are
homesteaded
or
a
lot
of
people
are
homesteaded,
but
but
still
people
are
frustrated
that
their
property
taxes
are
going
up
and
they
want
to
see
services
that
equate
with
that.
So
I
just
make
that
as
a
point,
can
you
go
to
the
solid
waste
one
real
fast?
Please,
yes,.
AB
AB
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
the
this
one
or
the
capital
yeah.
V
This
one
I
mean
if
we
look
at
it
as
an
Enterprise
shouldn't,
we
be
looking
at
having
a
zero
balance
or
a
or
a
surplus,
and
so
you
all
are
doing
a
study
for
rates
on
that
to
see
what
we
should
be
doing.
I
mean
I.
Think
if
the
public,
the
public,
doesn't
like
the
fact
that
their
water
rates
have
gone
up
either,
but
if
we're
looking
at
property,
increasing
property
taxes
versus
versus
charging,
what
we
should
be
charging
to
cover
the
actual
cost
of
solid
waste.
V
It
seems
like
this
would
be
a
fair
thing.
I'm
concerned
about
the
loss
there
you
you.
We
talked
about
the
rate
slightly
I'm,
also
concerned
when
we,
when
we,
when
we,
when
we
transfer
debt
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
pushing
debt
out
into
the
future
that
we're
not
taking
things
that
should
have
been
paid
off
and
putting
them
in
30
years,
so
we're
so
that
we're
paying
for
that.
Somebody
in
the
future
is
paying
for
today.
V
I
want
to
I
think
we
should
be
really
careful
about
looking
at
how
we
kind
of
time
shift
the
the
cost.
As
we
look
at
debt,
can
you
go
to
the
Wastewater
one
real
fast,
also
same
same
point:
there
that
we
have
a
loss
and
so
I
think
we
should
look
at
that
somehow
to
see
what
we
should
do
about
it
on
the
water
one.
Can
you
go
to
the
water
one
I
asked.
The
question
city
council
asked
the
question
a
few
months
ago
for
the
water
department.
V
Why
can't
we
reduce
the
water
rate?
This
slide
right
here
makes
the
the
staff
made
the
case
that
we
don't
need
to.
We
shouldn't
reduce
the
water
rate,
but
this
slide
makes
the
case
that
we
should.
So,
if
we're
looking
to
increase,
potentially
Wastewater
or
solid
waste,
we
should
again
look
at
funding
or
or
reducing
the
water
rate.
People
think
it's
way
too
high
and
we're
killing
pure.
So
we
will
save
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
a
year.
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
at
reducing
that
on
the
grant
slide.
V
Yes,
sir
I
think
this
is
a
one
of
the
one
additional
slide
you
should
include
here
should
or
should
not
should,
and
it
gives
the
mayor
credit
is
that
she
hired
more
Grant
people,
grants,
people
and
I
think
we
should
show
a
slide
on
the
ROI
on
that
and
I.
Don't
know
how
far
you
can
go
back
on
it,
but
if
we
had
one
person
before
and
we
were
getting
5
million
and
then
we
added
three
more
I,
don't
know
what
the
number
is,
but
three
more
and
now
we're
getting
50
million.
V
V
The
can
you
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
next
slide.
V
V
Get
in
it
in
it,
I
know
we're
running
out
of
time,
but
in
advance
of
August
3rd
we
should
probably
have
at
least
one
more
discussion
about
it,
and
maybe
two
more
and
it
shouldn't
be
somebody
asking
us
for
a
list
of
goodies
and
it
shouldn't
be
because
we
shouldn't
be
negotiating
our
votes,
but
it
also
also
we
should
not.
It
should
not
be
a
department
presenting
what
they're
getting
it
should
be.
V
A
discussion
about
I
recommend
at
least
another
half
hour
hour
discussion
about
philosophy
regarding
the
budget
I've
gone
through
some
of
mine
here,
but
we
need
to
be
talking
about
publicly
about
philosophy
of
the
budget,
because
we've
heard
an
earful
from
the
community
and
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
that
I
heard
loud
and
clear
that
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
want
some
kind
of
property
tax
rollback.
Even
if
it's
a
very
small
percentage,
the
property
tax
was
raised
under
the
last
Administration.
V
What
was
that
2017
or
something
like
that?
I
think
it
was
18.
and
and
and
it
it,
the
numbers
have
gone
way
up
as
a
result
of
it,
but
the
but
there's
high
pressure.
If
you
look
at,
why
is
housing
so
expensive
in
Tampa?
Yes,
the
market
has
gone
up,
but
that
will
level
off
at
some
point,
but
that
doesn't
change
the
taxes.
So
you
have.
V
You
have
people
that
have
lived
their
whole
lives,
worked
their
whole
lives
and
now
they're
paying
huge
property
taxes,
even
if
they're
home
set
it
in
because
and
and
some
of
them
are
trapped
in
their
homes
because
they
can't
afford
to
leave
and
move
somewhere
else
to
pay
the
higher
taxes.
So
we
have
different
fees
and
Enterprise
funds
that
we
can
draw
from
they're
they're,
even
though
property
taxes
now
with
all
these
Enterprises
is
a
smaller
percentage.
V
It
still
is
a
big
burden
on
the
public,
and
since
it
was
raised,
it
probably
was
raised
a
little
bit
too
much
in
2018,
and
we
should
look
at
the
possibility
of
decreasing
it
slightly
and
looking
at
some
of
these
Enterprise
funds.
It's
it's
not
fair!
That
property
tax
is
offsetting
some
other
services,
so
I
would
appreciate
if
folks
would
look
at
that
as
well.
Thank
you.
I'll.
Take.
Q
Thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
thank
you
Mr
Rogero,
for
your
detailed
presentation.
You
know:
we've
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
you
now
for
about
what
six
six
or
six
and
a
half
years,
and
you
always
do
a
great
job,
you're,
always
professional,
and
we
really
appreciate
it
and
I'm
glad
councilman
Carlson
brought
up
the
issue
of
increased
Revenue
on
the
on
the
village
issue,
I
tabulated,
that
unless,
if
I'm
wrong
about
25
since
covid,
more
or
less
and
and
that's
that's,
that's
a
big
deal.
Q
Obviously,
so,
even
though
we're
getting
more
costs
on
the
back
end
for
projects
because
of
inflation,
we're
also
getting
more
Revenue,
it
would
appear
right
from
higher
property
value.
Etc
et
cetera.
One.
Q
Want
to
mention-
and
I
mentioned
this
when
we
had
our
Parks
master
plan-
is
Public
Safety
and
and
the
public
safety
master
plan
which
I'm
going
to
say
again.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
in
our
budget
we
prioritize
the
real
needs
of
our
city.
Whenever
it
comes
to
Public
Safety.
Q
You
know
you
take
a
look
at
our
our
and
I
really
really
hope
that
in
this
year's
budget
we
see
some
movement
forward
on
on
what
I
call
the
fire
station
deficits
that
we
have
here
in
Tampa
I
know,
there's
been
talk
about
North
Tampa,
cheap
trips
working
on
that
very
hard,
and
we're
very
appreciative
for
that
on
Fowler
Tampa
City
Council
has
always
been
pushing
for
more
help.
Q
Downtown
I
always
tell
people
that
when
you
take
a
look
at
the
what
downtown
look
like
15
20
years
ago,
there
was
one
fire
station.
You
look
at
it
today,
there's
one
fire
station
and
we
really
throughout
all
over
City
of
Tampa.
But
what
would
really
help
this
council
is
to
have
a
public
safety
master
plan
that
is
like
the
parks
master
plan
that
was
about
340
pages.
Long
took
a
comprehensive
view
of
everywhere
that
we
need
with
with
Parks
when
it
comes
to
additional
Parks.
Q
Repairs
need
to
be
done
on
present
Parks
throughout
all
of
our
City
of
Tampa,
and
that's
what
we're
looking
for
with
the
public
safety
master
plan,
because
that
helps
us
to
say,
hey
look.
This
is
what
we
are
to
prioritize
in
our
city
of
Tampa
budget.
Whenever
it
comes
to
police
and
fire,
we
talk
about
fire
stations.
I
know,
councilman
Carlson
has
brought
up
the
issue
of
additional
police
as
well
as
have
the
police
benevolent
Association
Etc.
Q
You
know
just
looking
at
all
of
those
needs,
so
then
we
can
have
a
discussion
on
how
to
fund
that
you
know
what
and
we
need
to
look
at
all
sources
of
potential
Revenue
when
it
comes
to
Public
Safety.
For
me,
Public
Safety
also
includes
Mobility,
there's
a
reason
why
a
lot
of
our
first
responder
unions
endorsed
all
for
transportation.
I
know
I
believe
Local
754
did
because
there's
a
obvious
Nexus
between
those
increased
Investments
and
and
Public
Safety.
So
we
really
ought
to
have
a
discussion
on
that.
Q
We're
probably
making
a
a
motion
to
have
the
city
take
a
look
at
whatever
we
can
look
at
to
fund
needed.
You
know
a
public
safety,
related
transportation
and
our
our
Public
Safety
needs
and,
and
that
can
include
we're
talking
about
grants.
Q
I'd
encourage
folks
to
talk
to
our
friends
in
Tallahassee,
sometimes
we're
friends,
but
our
friends
in
Tallahassee,
which
is
I,
mean
they
they've
got
money
I,
don't
know
how
much
money
they
appropriated
for
lawsuits
that
they're
looking
at
defending
for
laws
that
are
unconstitutional,
but
they've
got
money,
and
you
know
if
they
talk
a
lot
about
Public
Safety
in
Tallahassee.
Let's
you
know
try
to
which
which
they
do.
Let's
see
if
we
can
get
grants
from
that
from
our
state
representatives
Etc,
we
had
the
office
of
one
here
this
morning.
Q
I
think
that's
very,
very
important,
but
that's
one
of
the
things
that
I
really
want
to
see.
But
again,
the
preface
for
that
has
got
to
be
the
completed
master
plan
that
we've
been
discussing
for
three
years,
a
robust
master
plan
that
shows
us
where
all
of
our
needs
are
with
police
and
fire,
how
much
it'll
cost
to
remedy
those
needs.
Q
So
we
have
the
discussion
with
the
public
on
how
to
fund
those
needs
without
that
I
I
think
we're
missing
some
legs
that
we
need
to
use
to
walk
so
to
speak
or
whatever
it
is.
However,
you
want
to
say
it,
but
again,
thank
you
for
your
hard
work
and
your
constant
professionalism
I
always
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank.
H
You
very
much
Mr
chairman
Mr
Vieira
is
correct.
Seven,
seven
percent
of
something
doesn't
mean
much,
but
that's
been
growing
growing
growing
every
year
because
we
have
what
we
become
a
destination
Florida
greater
than
we
ever
expected.
H
When
you
have
tourists
come
in
they're
paying
a
lot
of
that
percentage
of
that
seven
percent
total
tax
that
come
from
others
that
do
not
live
in
Florida.
But
let
me
go
back
to
what
is
called
the
water
bill.
It's
called
the
water
bill
because
they
sent
it
out
and
it
says
water,
Tampa,
Bay
water,
but
if
I
recall
I,
think
you
get
750
gallons
for
2.72
cents.
You
meant
no
quote
me
on
that.
H
If
you
look
at
the
last
part
of
it,
what
is
it
it
ain't,
water,
it's
Solid,
Waste,
whether
it
pick
up
your
garbage
twice
a
week
and
take
it
to
the
station
and
to
reuse
the
energy
we
try
to
do
as
much
professionalism
as
much
as
private
Industries
doing.
We
as
a
government
are
doing
that
in
fact,
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
Refugee
energy
gives
about
enough
energy
for
15
000
homes
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
and
it
leaves
about
a
10
billion
dollar
profit.
H
The
loan
that
you
got
at
the
bank
or
wherever
you
go
through
your
cash
is
neutral
until
you
pay
it
off
then
you're
on
the
positive
side
of
things.
However,
you're
not
really
neutral
because
you're
having
what
we're
killing
ourselves,
you
can
talk
all
you
want
if
we
don't
fix
the
environment
of
this
country
and
this
world
you're
in
essence,
killing
yourself,
because
you
can't
solve
the
problems
on
health-wise
that
you're
creating
for
the
world
and
you're
the
Phantom
that
you're
creating
where
people
don't
have
weight.
H
Don't
have
corn,
don't
have
anything,
and
these
are
the
things
that
are
going
on.
So
when
you
say
that
the
water
bill
is
going
up,
I'm,
not
going
to
argue
that,
because
it's
on
the
bill,
the
rate
of
cost
per
water
is
not
going
up
in
the
last
three
or
four
years.
What
has
gone
up
is
a
total,
however,
to
you
seniors,
listen
very
carefully,
because
if
you
call
and
you're
a
senior
all
that
bill
that
they
charge
you,
you
can
get
for
pickup
garbage
pickup,
you
can
reduce
it
by
five
dollars
a
month.
H
So
right
there
I'm
giving
you
a
savings.
If
you
haven't
done
it
of
five
dollars
a
month
and
therefore
you
buy
that
five
dollars,
you
put
it
through
an
electric
bill,
you're
already
ahead,
so
go
out,
get
a
little
loan,
don't
go
out
and
do
anything
else,
but
at
a
nice
interest
rate,
don't
get
crazy,
don't
get
to
a
long
shark
and
all
that
stuff
you
will
pay
for
it.
With
your
savings
and
at
the
end
of
your
nine
or
ten
years
you
would
be
free
from
all
the
obligations
of
the
bank.
H
H
You
still
got
to
buy
electricity
you're
still
going
to
need
to
charge
a
car,
but
those
things
are
going
to
be
very
much
well
intended
for
the
environment
of
the
world
and
you're
going
to
see
some
changes
in
cars
that
are
just
unbelievable,
like
you're,
going
to
see
changes
in
the
way
you
built
your
house
you're,
going
to
see
changes
and
they're
going
to
be
brick
and
mortar,
a
machine
is
going
to
come
by
and
build
you
the
house.
You
want
right
in
front
of
you.
H
Y
U
Me
channel
my
colleague
over
there-
maybe
it's
just
me,
but
I'm
I'm.
Looking
at
the
these
graphs
and
there's
you've
used
variable
dates
when
the
either
2014
2016
2017,
as
you
go
back
historical
data
for
me,
I
I,
I
think
I
prefer
consistency
so
that
at
least
I
know
what
I'm
looking
at
from
one
graph
to
another
I
can
track
it
over
the
same
periods
of
time
because
it
kind
of
it.
It
leads
me
as
someone
who's
new,
looking
like
it's
picking
and
choosing
to
get
favorable.
H
U
The
other
thing
is,
you
know,
as
we
we
talk
about
projecting
in
to
a
potential
economic
downturn
in
in
the
future.
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
we
actually
went
back
over
back
into
the
2008
2007-2008
period
is
where,
as
we're
showing
this
information,
so
that
we
can
look
at
our
spending,
we
can
look
at
our
revenue
and
how
how
the
economy
impacted
the
city
of
Tampa
spinning
because
I
mean
anecdotally.
U
U
So
that's
why
I,
wouldn't,
actually,
you
know,
put
out
there
in
the
atmosphere
that
were
to
look
back
for
rollbacks
on
on
Revenue,
because
we
still
have
a
lot
of
underfunded
programs
and
needs.
You
know,
Fleet
replacement
is
one
of
those
things
we
talk
about
our
firefighters
and
our
police
and
Fleet
replacement.
We,
you
know,
we
have
all
these
needs
that
need
to
be
done
in
public
safety
and
I
know.
I've
heard
you
know
listening
to
Council
in
the
past,
talking
about
potentially
impact
fees
to
be
able
to
help
fund
this.
U
This
unfunded
needs
and
our
safety,
firefighting
and
police
work,
so
I
think
that's
something
we
should
probably
pursue
somewhere
down
the
line
as
we
grow.
The
stresses
that
it
creates
and
and
the
needs
that
it
has
for
our
our
Public
Service
I
think
is-
is
great
and
I
would
like
to
maybe
sometimes
Look
Down
the
Line
to
See.
If
that's
something,
maybe
a
solution,
we'll.
AB
Make
another,
and,
and
if
I
may
sir,
your
example
of
not
quite
recovered
from
the
Great
Recession
is
a
good
one,
and
your
your
vehicle
example
is
even
better.
That's
really
our
poster
child
for
where
we
have
not.
You
know
gotten
to
where
we
were
prior
to
the
Great
Recession.
AB
It's
very
similar
to
you
know
the
American
Rescue
plan
act
discussion
we
had
Monday
you'll
recall
we
we
received
80
million
dollars,
which
is
great,
but
we
calculate
that
we
lost
over
100
million
dollars
in
Revenue,
so
that's
I
mean
it's
80
cents
on
the
dollar,
it's
better
than
a
sharp
stick,
but
it's
still
not
a
hundred
cents
on
on
the
dollar
and
we'll
and
we'll
no
you're
you're.
Your
consistent
dating
is
yeah
well
served.
Thank
you,
we'll
we'll
change
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
C
You
I
would
concur
with
council
member
Clendenin
that
I
think
it
would
be
beneficial
for
us,
as
a
council
and
the
public
to
take
a
look
at
what
happened
during
the
last
recession.
In
terms
of
you
know,
dollars
and
percentages
where
we
spent
it.
C
I
also
tend
to
agree
that
I
wouldn't
look
at
a
rollback
now,
because
we
are
still
so
far
behind
from
where
we
need
to
be
and
I,
don't
necessarily
think
that's
even
a
recession,
issue
I
think
it's
still
stems
from
when
people
were
leaving
the
city
and
leaving
the
infrastructure
to
age
and
us
not
having
the
money
to
maintain
it
and
now
we're
doing
all
these
projects
to
maintain
it,
because
people
are
coming
back
to
the
city
and
instead
of
the
suburbs,
where
they
got
to
start
new
and
build
brand
new.
C
We
are
doing
what
is
essentially
considerably
harder,
we're
going
into
places
that
are
already
built
and
trying
to
fix
it,
which,
if
you
look
at
anything
that
we're
doing
in
stormwater,
is
a
really
difficult
proposition
and
tends
to
be
a
lot
more
expensive
than
starting
from
scratch.
So
this
is
such
a
fascinating
puzzle
and
I
I.
C
Just
always
am
fascinated:
I
just
love
the
budget,
because
it's
just
so
interesting
but
I
would
I
would
absolutely
think
it
would
be
great
to
have
as
councilman
Carlson
said,
something
in
the
calendar
and
I
know
that
with
July
being
our
time
off,
we
don't
have
that
Workshop
date
available,
but
I
would
love
a
presentation
on
the
2018
recession
or
2008
area
era.
Recession,
I'd
be
even
be
willing
to
do.
C
You
know
like
a
Tuesday
night,
similar
to
the
public
hearings,
we're
going
to
have
on
the
budget
just
again
to
have
that
discussion
about
what
we've
done
in
the
past
have
more
discussions
about
what
what
else
we
want
to
do
going
forward
in
the
future.
To
start
to
start
the
public
thinking
in
Maybe
Junior
July
about
where
we
need
to
have
those
balances.
C
So
if
we
are
as
Mr
Miranda
continues
to
talk
about
wisely
water
and
solid
waste
and
how
we
absolutely
have
to
work
on
conservation-
and
that
is
something
that
we
have
resoundingly
heard
from
the
public
that
they
don't
really
want
to
do.
But
we
have
to
look
at.
We
have
to
explain
what
the
costs
are.
If
you
want
to
keep
getting
garbage
pickup
twice
a
week,
what's
it
going
to
cost
because
right
now
we're
losing
a
ton
of
money
there.
C
So
if
you
want
that
service
it
we're
going
to
have
to
we're
going
to
have
to
have
those
hard
conversations
about
paying
for
it
and
because
you
make
a
very
good
point,
Mr
Carlson,
that
these
are
those
Enterprise
funds
they
should.
We
should
be
doing
everything
in
our
power
to
make
sure
that
they're
solvent
and,
as
we've
seen,
the
parking
department
just
over
the
last
few
years,
be
able
to
do
that
themselves.
It's
been
very
impressive.
C
I've
been
working,
I
talk
a
lot.
My
Public
Works
people
know
how
much
I
really
love
talking
about
garbage.
In
fact,
we
got
like
a
half
an
hour
conversation
off
the
track
the
other
day.
Just
talking
about
garbage,
so
Mr,
Washington
and
I
are
always
talking
about
ways.
C
We
can
really
think
forward
bring
the
city
forward
to
where
many
other
municipalities
are
and
parts
of
the
country
about
how
we're
looking
at
garbage
and
waste
and
how
we
really
need
to
do
a
better
job
of
recycling
of
yard,
waste,
of
all
sorts
of
things.
So
for
me,
that's
a
that's
a
big
thing:
the
parks
and
rec
budget.
We're
constantly
talking
about
I
know
when
we
had
the
park
and
rec
master
plan.
The
the
fact
that
eighty
dollars
for
a
summer
for
for
child
care
is
is
wild.
C
It's
wonderful
for
those
who
need
it,
but
there
are
so
many
who
could
afford
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
to
make
parts
of
Park
and
Rec
more
more
like
an
Enterprise
fund,
not
totally,
but
a
little
bit
more.
What
else
can
we
be
doing
for
folks
that
that
really
want
that
and
again
the
thing
that
I
thought
was
fascinating
was
the
amount
of
people
willing
to
pay
for
more
park
and
rec
benefits
and
what
that
might
look
like
how
that
might
happen.
C
So
again,
I
would
like
to
see
something
in
the
June
or
July
time
frame
to
really
talk
about
what
happened
in
the
past.
How
how
we
made
our
way
through
it
and
then
to
if
anything,
take
that
tax
revenue
that
we
aren't.
If
we
don't
go
down
that
half
Mill,
maybe
putting
dedicating
that
toward
our
rainy
day
fund
that
we
absolutely
need
to
build
I
can
completely
agree
with
councilmember
Carlson.
C
On
that
the
other
thing
absolutely
I,
don't
know
how
we
have
gone
about
doing
getting
input
from
the
public
on
on
some
of
these
issues,
but
I
know
we
generally
have
a
sparsely
attended
public
hearings.
So
if
there
are
other
ways
that
we
can
reach
out
to
the
public,
that
would
be
of
interest
as
well.
V
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir,
just
to
just
to
throw
in
a
few
a
few
more
thoughts
from
my
colleagues
I
like
the
idea
of
going
back
to
the
last
recession.
But
the
most
helpful
thing
I
think
would
be
to
look
at
how
things
changed
since
then.
V
So,
if
you
have
the
information
before
then
like
2005
2006
then
show
2002,
8
2009,
but
then
and
and
it
might
be
helpful
to
look
at
it
by
Department,
maybe
budget
and
staff
to
see
I
forgot
all
the
details
of
how
mayor
Oreo,
saved
money
I
think
a
lot
of
it
was
by
cutting
staff,
but
if
we
saw
it
kind
of
Department
by
department
and
then
let's
look
at
how
they've
grown
since
then
so
that
we
can
see,
you
know
how
how
what
Staffing
levels
were
before
what
they
were,
the
Great
Recession,
how
she
saved
all
that
money
and
then
and
then
what's
been
added
since
then,
because
if
we're
facing,
if
we,
if
we
Face
catastrophic
situation,
unfortunately,
we
got
the
federal
money
at
covid.
V
But
if
we
Face
a
a
catastrophic
recession,
we
not
only
need
to
have
more
in
the
near
any
day
fund,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
figure
out
what
would
we
cut
if
we
had
to
the
other
thing,
though,
that
I
would
encourage
everybody
to
look
at
is
we
have
to
look
at
priorities
of
how
the
budget's
been
spent?
I.
Think
that
that
that
map,
if
you
show
it
out
especially
if
we
looked
at
projects,
would
would
probably
highlight
some
things
where
we
could
have
saved
money.
V
An
example
that
I
talk
about
a
lot
is
Julian
Lane
Park,
you
know
the
entire
Parks
budget
is
like
five
to
seven
million
dollars
a
year
and-
and
we
spent
like
32
million
dollars
on
that
now
part
of
it
came
from
BP,
but
we
could
have
allocated
it
somewhere
else,
but
12
million
of
it
was
spent
on
at
a
Boathouse,
which
I
think
is
it
you
know
is
is
is,
is
a
is
an
example
that
the
public
looks
at
and
they
get
angry
and
they
wonder
you
know
if
the
budget
for
roads
is
five
million
a
year.
V
Why
did
we
possibly
spend
two
and
a
half
times
that
on
a
boat
house
that
that
it
even
competes
with
the
private
sector,
which
I
think
is
a
terrible
decision
all
around,
but
in
our
that
was
that
was
six
seven
years
ago?
And
this
admit
in
this
Administration
we
have
Hannah,
Avenue
and
and
the
thing
that
we
got,
you
know
it's
it's
going
to
end
up
being
more
than
a
200
million
dollar
building
I
voted
for
it
initially,
and
then
we
had
some
concerns
because
there
was
not
put
out
for
bid
it's.
V
It
went
from
100
million
for
two
buildings
to
to
108
million
for
one
now
it's
like
125
or
something
plus
54
somewhere
like
that
in
interest,
and
what
we
did
is
we
we
bonded
it.
Okay,
if
we,
what
if
we
had
bonded
that
150
160
million
to
buy
our
fire
trucks
and
police
cars
and
new
fire
stations,
we
would
have
solved
the
public
safety
problem.
We
didn't
need
an
office
building
so
badly
that
we
that
we
that
we
decided
to
do
that
instead
of
Public
Safety
and
that's
what
happened.
V
We
could
that
bonding
capacity
we
could
have
used
it
on
something
else
and
the
same
thing
for
the
East
Coast
part
Fair,
Oaks,
Community,
Center
and
the
area
around
that.
Originally
the
people
there
wanted
us
to
renovate
it.
It
would
have
cost
350
000,
something
like
that,
and
then
they
asked
us
to
rebuild
it,
and
we
got
rough
estimates
five
to
four
to
five
million,
and
now
it's
41
million
and
that's
eight
times
the
annual
budget
for
the
parks
and
I
absolutely
think.
V
East
Tampa
deserves
a
great
Park,
but
we're
spending
eight
times
on
that
and
one
of
the
excuses
that
comes
back
is
well
we'll
just
Bond
it
well.
Why
aren't
we
bonding
fire
stations
and
and
and
police
station
and
by
the
way,
East
Tampa
didn't
want
the
the
the
new
headquarters
for
the
police
I?
Think
South
Tampa
would
welcome
it,
because
South
Tampa
wants
more
of
a
police
presence
and
maybe
Ybor
City
would
welcome
it.
So
we
I
I,
want
to
say
I
agree
with
councilman
Riviera.
V
We
absolutely
need
that
Public
Safety
master
plan
done
it's
one
of
the
most
critical
things
we
have
I
meet
with
neighborhood
leaders
and
Community
leaders.
All
the
time,
just
like
my
colleagues
do
in
South
Tampa.
V
The
number
one
issue
by
far
is
crime,
even
though
the
the
public
statistics
say
that
the
crime
is
down
the
perception
and
the
and
the
reality
that
we
see
is,
that
is
that
crimes
are
up,
and
the
police
chief
said
that
we
know
that
that
car,
thefts
and
Amazon
package
steps
are
up,
and
we've
got
to
resolve
that
and
if
we're
not
going
to
buy,
hire
200
police
officers
that
the
PBA
would
like,
let's
hire
10
more
in
South
Tampa.
Some
parts
of
the
city
may
not
want
it,
but
South
Tampa
wants
it.
V
They
we
want
more
of
a
police
present
and
and
and
we
desperately
need
more
fire
rescue
coverage.
It's
we.
We
have
really
precarious
situations
in
South
Tampa
that
I
want
to
talk
about,
and
the
whole
city
is
facing
this
as
well.
But
I'll
go
back
to
the
other
point
that
I
made
we're
in
a
housing
crisis
which
everybody
has
seen.
People
are
complaining
about
rents,
they're
complaining
about
the
cost
of
housing,
as
I
mentioned
before.
V
Rental
properties
are
not
covered
under
homestead
exemption,
so
their
their
property
taxes
are
going
up
up
up
and
up,
and
so
the
public.
Some
members
of
the
public
asked
us
to
work
on.
Rent
control
and
the
state
won't
allow
us
to
do
that.
V
But
the
thing
we
do
have
control
of
is
the
property
taxes
our
we
are
contributing
through
our
property
taxes
and
by
over
relying
on
property
taxes,
we're
contributing
to
the
high
rental
rates
and
to
the
end
of
the
high
cost
of
home
ownership,
and
even
if
we
just
did
a
small
rollback,
we
would
send
and
we
would
send
a
message
to
the
community
that
we
do
care
about
people
being
able
to
own
homes
and
live
in
the
city
of
Tampa
and
that
we're
trying
to
do
our
part
to
make
them
affordable.
Thank
you.
H
Me
go
back
to
the
Oriole
years.
I
was
here
in
fact,
I
think
the
number
that
they
cut
was
754
employees
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
I
know
it
was
over
700..
So
those
are
the
things
when
you
make
a
comparison
between
something
that
you
have
and
something
in
the
past
or
something
into
the
future.
You
have
to
look
at
it
in
a
comprehensive
way.
You
just
can't
say
the
revenue
side
on
all
of
us.
H
So
that's
number
one
number
two:
when,
when
you
look
at
health
clinics,
it's
a
way
of
prevention
from
being
in
the
hospital,
whether
you
catch
something
before
it
becomes
something
else,
and
these
are
the
things
that
are
helping,
not
only
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
Tampa,
but
it's
helping
everyone,
because
your
taxes
are
based
on
Revenue.
When
you
talk
about
ad
valorem
tax,
that's
why
people
are
moving
to
Florida.
H
There's
no
income
tax
from
the
state
people
in
New,
York
people
in
New,
England
people
all
over
the
country
are
coming
here
by
the
Groves.
So
when
the
value
of
your
house
goes
up,
the
tax
goes
up.
Certainly,
but
so
does
the
cost
of
living
goes
up.
So
it's
because
the
cars
go
up.
If
you
look
at
how
many
employees
were
laid
off
the
over
700
and
how
we
brought
them
back
little
by
little
because
they
were
needed,
but
we
had
to
run
the
city
on
a
shoestrap
with
nothing
else
to
do.
H
When
you
look
at
something
like
any
park,
let
me
tell
you:
I,
come
from
the
hood
and
I
don't
mind
meeting
it.
I
had
a
great
life,
I
had
great
parents,
but
when
you
do
something
for
the
hood
and
I
bet
you
my
life
on
it
that
that
part
that
they're
going
to
build,
no
matter
what
it
costs
it
would
give
somebody
a
ray
of
Hope.
H
So,
when
you
keep
some
kids
away
and
don't
teach
them
what
life
is
really
about.
That's
where
you
create
your
problems,
your
social
problems.
You
have
to
give
all
the
young
people
a
chance
to
go
somewhere
where
they
can
relax
and
see
that
there's
another
side
of
life,
and
these
are
the
things
I
remember:
Cascade,
Park,
I.
Remember
all
the
things
we
had,
and
these
are
what
these
kids
need.
No
matter
what,
where
the
park
is
at
Central,
south,
east,
west
or
north,
these
are
the
things
that
are
needed.
H
Parks
keep
young
people
involved,
it
teaches
them
two
things
how
to
win
and
how
to
lose
and
when
you
lose
you're
ready
to
start
to
learn
how
to
win,
because
you
don't
want
to
get
beat
everywhere,
you
go.
So
these
are
the
things
that
help
kids
develop
and
do
good
citizens,
and
these
are
the
things
that
I'm
striving
to
help
done
get
done
and
and
when,
when
you
look
at
crying,
don't
don't
believe
me
go
get
the
statistics.
H
T
Thank
you
for
the
report.
It
was
very
interesting.
I
learned
a
lot.
I
was
going
to
just
say
one
thing,
but
the
comments
of
the
council
people-
maybe
I,
have
a
few
more
first
of
all.
Let
me
just
say:
the
Fair
Oaks
project
is
well
deserved
and
needed
in
that
community,
no
matter
how
much
it
costs.
So
we
if
we've
built
a
12
million
dollar
Boathouse
that
is
being
questioned.
T
The
well-deserved
development
that's
taking
place
in
Fair
Oaks
in
the
hood
as
Charlie
would
say,
which
actually
is
just
an
urban
colloquialism
for
neighborhood
by
the
way.
So
that
is
a
very
good
thing.
Also
East
Tampa
actually
does
want
policing.
They
just
want
good
policing.
So
if
we
do
build
things
someplace
else,
but
good
policing
is
very
important
in
all
communities
and
they
deserve
that.
T
So
if
a
few
people
were
complaining
that
they
didn't
want
a
police
station
in
that
particular
area,
it's
not
true
that
they
don't
want
good
policing,
and
it
just
happens
to
be
that
it's
going
to
be
built
on
Hannah,
Street
and
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do
about
it.
Except
learn
from
the
mistake
of
you
know
the
excessive
cost
that
took
place
there.
I
also
want
to
say
to
you:
do
we
have
to
have
the
solid
waste?
The
solid
ways
have
to
be
considered
an
Enterprise
type
of
budget
line
item
because
it
I
I.
T
T
AB
Least,
I
can
speak
briefly
and
we
can
talk
in
more
detail
online
I,
don't
Envision
and
I'll
contrast
that
I
think
one
council
member
has
already
contrasted
or
compared
that
with
the
parking
Department
I,
don't
Envision
a
future
where
Solid
Waste
is
not
an
Enterprise
fund.
It
is
so
massive.
AB
You
know
following
the
Great
Recession
I
was
here,
but
I
can't
remember
how
we
made
it
work.
We
we
supplemented,
The
Parking
Department,
that's
an
Enterprise
fund
with
General
funds,
so
we
made
it
work.
It
is
such
a
smaller
scale
that
we
were
able
to
do
that
again.
AB
It
was
deemed
a
higher
priority
than
some
of
the
other
things
the
general
funding
could
have
gone
to
the
Solid
Waste
Department
is
massive
I
anticipate
it
will
remain
in
Enterprise
fund
and
to
be
quite
candid,
I
I,
don't
think
it's
if
we're
going
to
recommend
a
rate
increase
is
when
and
and
you
see,
that
in
the
in
the
fund
balances
the
fund,
balance
projection
and
all
of
the
and
all
of
the
projects
that
are
necessary.
The
poster
child,
probably
the
waste
to
energy
facility
that
we've
talked
about
I,
hope
that
answers
your.
T
AB
Does
happen,
Council
will
see
this
periodically
in
terms
of
a
change
order
that
actually
decreases
the
cost
of
a
project
and
will
provide
final
payment
Etc
in
those
instances.
What
we
typically
do
is
we.
We
reallocate
that
funding
to
another
appropriate
project
for
that
funding
source
again.
You'll
recall
all
of
those
many
most
of
those
funding
sources
have
restrictions.
So
if
we
save
money
on
this
Transportation
project,
we'll
reallocate
it
to
a
transportation
project
and,
of
course,
we'll
bring
that
to
council.
AA
Thank
you,
Council
Gene,
Duncan
administrator
for
infrastructure,
Mobility
I
have
a
brief,
somewhat
drill
down
of
what
our
CFO
just
shared
with
us,
and
this
is
to
highlight
a
few
sample
projects
that
we
have,
which
consider
a
little
more
high
profile
up
to
you.
How
much
you'd
like
to
discuss
those
today.
We
could
certainly
follow
up
on
this
list
or
any
other
project.
We
have
that's
active
that
you're
concerned
about
or
interested
in.
AA
So
very
briefly,
we
were
here
back
in
January
of
this
year
for
those
of
you
who
are
with
us
at
that
time
and
we
shared
a
more
formal
process
that
we
put
onto
our
existing
project
management
processes.
As
you
can
imagine,
we've
got
over
300
projects
in
some
state
of
activity.
We
have
excellent
project
management
teams,
Architects
Engineers
project
coordinators,
project
managers,
but
we
decided
for
some
of
the
more
high
profile
projects
and
we
wanted
to
have
a
little
more
consistency
and
format
of
how
we
discuss
these
projects.
AA
Most
of
our
projects
have
some
level
of
this
type
of
approach,
but
these
particular
projects
because
they
have
a
little
more
Administration
level
coordination.
We
want
to
put
a
little
framework
to
that,
so
our
C
Chief
of
Staff
who's,
really
good
with
I'll,
give
you
some
great
names
to
things
for
ease
and
simplicity.
AA
We
decided
to
call
this
our
grade
eight
internal
process,
it's
grade
eight
because
there's
key
eight
key
internal
stakeholders
that
we
want
to
make
sure
each
of
those
stakeholders
throughout
the
development
and
throughout
the
progression
of
the
project,
is
weighing
in
at
the
appropriate
time
to
make
sure
we're
not
missing
anything
as
we
develop
the
business
case,
all
the
way
to
constructing
the
project.
So
we've
got
those
eight
key
stakeholders
and,
of
course,
City
Council.
AA
Internal
slash.
External,
of
course,
is
our
other
key
component
of
this
review
process.
Sorry
I'm
not
progressing.
My
slides
here
apologize
for
that
thought.
That
was
going
to
be
done
for
me.
So
again,
those
are
the
the
stakeholders
I
just
mentioned:
CFO,
City
attorney
or
sustainability
and
so
forth.
So
the
next
thing
that
we
did
is
we.
We
came
up
with
a
template
for
providing
the
information
on
these
projects,
so
we
have
the
discussion.
There's
a
consistent
conversation
using
this
template.
AA
So
again,
simple
changes
to
a
somewhat
cumbersome
process,
but
they've
really
made
a
big
difference.
We've
been
doing
this
for
eight
months
now
and
it's
working
very
well
again
the
information
that
our
CFO
just
shared
on
that
more
comprehensive
look
at
the
dcip.
All
of
this
is
in
our
open,
gov
website.
There's
a
lot
of
information
on
there
about
project
particulars
funding
sources.
We
also
have
a
map
you
can
go
and
see
the
actual
dots
and
where
they
are
throughout
the
city
which,
when
you
click
on
those
dots,
it
pulls
up
much
more
detailed
information.
AA
So
that's
available
and,
of
course,
staff
is
available
at
any
time
that
you
would
like
a
briefing
on
something
we
would
like
to
be
reaching
out
to
you
as
well
to
share
things.
We
would
like
you
to
know
about
in
advance,
so
communication
is
very
important
to
us
and
we
welcome
any
and
all
amounts
of
communication
you'd
like
to
have
on
any
of
our
capital
projects.
AA
So
with
that,
we
wanted
to
just
give
a
quick
overview
on
the
status
of
this
handful
of
projects.
Again,
it's
your
discretion
of
how
much
you'd
like
to
discuss
each
of
those.
We
have
what
we
call
the
project
owners
here
of
each
of
those
projects
to
share
again
project
status
on
each
of
the
on
each
of
these,
and
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
ask
her
first
project
ownership
Hills
to
come
up
and
talk
about
a
couple
of
our
products,
projects
that
are
ongoing.
AC
Good
morning,
Council
Patricia
Hills,
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation
I,
have
four
projects
to
talk
about
today.
So
we'll
start
with
the
East
Tampa
recreational
complex,
as
I
mentioned
before
about
our
buildings
and
maintenance,
this
the
lifespan
of
our
average
building
is
30
to
50
years.
This
particular
facility
was
renovated
30
years
ago
with
minor
improvements.
So
this
is
why
this
has
been
a
high
priority
for
us.
AC
It's
a
big
collaboration
between
parks
and
Mobility,
so
we
can
improve
the
access
and
safe
routes
to
parks
with
this
community
engagement
was
involved
so
we'll
go
back
to
the
beginning
of
this
year
we
had
initial
meeting
at
Middleton,
High
School,
where
we
had
hundreds
of
residents
come
out
and
give
input.
AC
Our
next
meeting
was
followed
with
the
kids
only
meeting
on
a
Saturday,
so
we
wanted
to
hear
what
our
youth
had
to
say,
and
so
then
it
was
a
meeting
where
they
came
back
and
they
presented
from
all
the
feedback
that
was
given
to
them
three
potential
options
and
then
got
more
feedback
from
that.
So
right
now
all
that
to
be
said,
we're
in
a
phase
where
they
are
our
consultant.
AC
Skanska
is
putting
all
that
information
together,
our
next
Community
engagement
meeting
in
order
to
show
them
a
plan
would
be
in
August,
so
August
16th
with
that
said,
the
community
engagement
never
stops.
So
if
there's
feedback
that
anybody
wants
to
give
I
know
I
just
a
couple
weeks
ago,
I
got
a
long
letter
of
a
resident
who
wanted
to
add
more
we'll
continue
to
hear
whether
it's
the
programming
or
the
building
itself,
so
constant
Community
engagement.
AC
There
was
very
medium
ways
and
mediums
that
the
information
was
given
out
there,
whether
it
be
radio
print
online,
so
various
mediums
in
order
to
get
that
information
out
what
we
did
find
and
heard
years
ago-
and
even
this
year
in
this
community
engagement
was
a
full
replacement,
is
what
they
wanted.
So
you
know
they
over
the
30
years.
They
got
Renovations,
but
the
communication
was
a
full
replacement.
Edition
were
required
to
meet
the
recreational
needs
that
was
strongly
expressed
by
the
community,
so
that
is
how
we've
gotten
here
also
I
know.
AC
Councilman
Carlson
was
asking
about
the
the
amount,
but
we
also
remember
we
started
with
the
three
acre
Park.
This
is
now
a
10
acre
project,
so
it's
a
much
needed
and
a
community
that
the
community
wants.
So
this
is
a
huge
investment
for
us,
as
I
mentioned
before,
I
go
down
to
the
current
project.
Status
30
was
received
on
May
17th
and
we're
due
back
to
give
them
that
on
May
30th.
But
the
final
presentation
to
the
community
is
scheduled
for
August
16th,
councilman
Carlson.
V
Yes,
Sergeant,
since
this
was
topical
a
minute
ago,
I
just
want
to
forget
for
anybody
who's
watching.
For
the
first
time,
four
years
ago,
Community
came
before
us
and
said
that
they
were
upset
at
the
last
Administration.
They
turned
down
thirty
three
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars
to
renovate
the
building.
We
win
as
a
CRA
board
to
Fair
Oaks.
We
had
a
community
meeting
more
than
100
people
attended
and
the
folks
demanded
that
we
rebuild
it,
and
we
all
said
yes.
V
I
was
one
of
the
main
Advocates
on
CRA
board
and
Council
that
I,
absolutely
even
I,
don't
represent
East
Tampa
I
thought
we
should
do
that,
but
the
initial
estimates
were
four
or
five
million
dollars.
So
several
questions
number
one.
This
41
million
dollars
did
city
council
ever
approve,
that
is,
that
number
approved
number
two
out
of
the
750
million
or
whatever
that
that
is
in
your
350
page
master
plan.
I,
wonder
how
much
of
that's
that
that's
the
dollar
amount
that
needs
to
be
spent
on
all
the
parks
in
the
whole
city.
V
It
seems
to
me
that,
even
if
we
said
we
had
41
million
for
East
Tampa
that
we
would
have
maybe
spent
instead
of
spending
5
million
on
this
park,
we
would
have
spent
10
or
20
million
on
it.
And
then
we
would
have
spent
the
other
20
million
to
fix
the
other
parks
in
East
Tampa.
V
But
now
we've
spent
eight
times
the
annual
budget
for
all
the
parks
in
the
entire
city
on
one
park
and
even
the
residents
of
East
Tampa
don't
get
their
other
Parks
fixed
because
we
spent
so
much
on
this
one
and
it
was
bonded.
So
it's
not
coming
out
of
this
regular
budget.
But
it's
did
anybody
consider
that
we
could
have
used
the
same
bonding
capacity
to
fix
the
other
parks
in
East,
Tampa
or
or
or
to
to
try
to
tackle
that
that
big
750
million
dollar
number.
AC
AB
Hello
again,
Council
Dennis
Rod,
hero,
Chief,
Financial
Officer,
a
few
things
on
the
East
Tampa
recreational
complex.
Excuse
me,
but
I
do
have
a
question.
The
just
to
clarify
the
Parks
and
Recreation
budget
is
about
55
million
dollars,
total
I'm,
not
sure
if
I'm
hearing,
5
or
55,
but
just
for
clarification.
V
AB
AB
AB
V
And
and
the
reason
why
I'm
making
such
a
big
deal
of
it
to
my
colleagues,
sorry
to
hold
this
up,
but
I
get
complaints
about
every
Park
in
the
city,
everybody
people,
people
want
to
use
the
parks
that
are
near
their
house,
and
this
park
is
meant
I
think
to
be
a
regional
park
for
all
of
East
Tampa,
and
anybody
in
the
whole
city
can
access
it.
V
But
what
about
all
the
other
Parks
we're
we're
spending
an
enormous
amount
on
one
part
is
this:
this
is
probably
the
most
we've
ever
spent
over
he's
even
more
than
Julian
B
Lane
I
believe
it
is
more
than
Julian
B
Lane.
Is
it
more
than
Curtis
Hixon?
Also
not.
V
Somebody
upstairs
is
going
to
say
well,
look
he
doesn't
care
about
East
Tampa
I
was
I
was
on
the
Forefront
of
saying
we
need
to.
We
need
to
fix
this
park.
We
need
to
spend
money
on
it,
but
I
mean
where
do
where
do
we
stop
in
the
budget?
5
million
was
what
the
if
we
had
said,
5
million
four
years
ago.
V
The
committee
would
have
been
very,
very
happy,
but
if
we
had
said
10
million
they
would
have
been
extremely
happy,
but
somebody
came
up
with
a
number
of
41
million
now,
but
where
do
we
stop?
If
it
should,
we
spend
60
million
or
80
million
I
mean
I?
Where
does
where?
How
do
we
decide
that
one
park
should
get
41
million
instead
of
redoing
all
the
other
Parks?
All
the
could?
We
have
let's
say,
there's
200
million
dollars
worth
of
things
we
could
do
on
all
of
East
Tampa.
AB
Yes,
sir,
again
with
within
whatever
restrictions
the
bond
funding
will
have.
But
yes,
let's,
let's
pick
a
number
40
million
dollars
with
the
bond
funding
can
be
spent
in
an
array
of
ways.
As
long
as
again,
it's
a
long
life
span
project.
That's
typically,
it
should
last
as
long
as
the
debt
issue
is
30
years.
So
you
would
you
wouldn't
do
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
you
wouldn't
do
small
repairs
and
improvements
at
a
number
of
parks
with
bonded
debt.
You
would
do
very
large
improvements
in,
however,
many
Parks.
V
I
think
we
need
it
this
this
kind
of
popped
up
on
on
the
prior
presentation
you
all
did
like
this
and
and
that
that's
where
I
first
found
out
about
the
41
million
on
the
CIP
discussion
and
I,
appreciate
you
all
being
thorough
and
open
and
transparent
about
presenting
all
this.
But
it
seems
like
there
should
have
been
a
discussion
for
us
and
the
public
about
how
we
decide
to
use
the
funding.
V
If
we
add
40
million
in
bonding
capacity,
should
we
use
it
on
one
park
or
should
we
use
on
several
Parks,
because
even
folks
in
Tampa
are
going
to
complain
that
that
this
park
is
too
far
from
their
house
and
they
want
the
park
in
their
neighborhood
fixed.
So
we
need
to
be
able
to
explain
how
we
made
this
decision
and
and
if
we're
going
to
make
decisions
because
Council
hasn't
approved
it.
Yet.
Thank
you,
I
understood.
U
AB
Hello
again
Dennis
we're
here:
Chief
Financial,
Officer
and
you're,
asking
sir
about
East
Tampa
recreational
complex,
specific
affirmative.
Yes,
it
is
part
of
our
Capital
Improvement
program
for
five
years
from
fiscal
year,
23
to
27..
It's
anticipated
I'm,
going
off
memory.
So
I'll
give
you
some
broad
numbers.
It's
anticipated
costs
approximately
40
million
dollars.
The
overwhelming
majority
of
that
funding
is
anticipated
from
Debt
Service.
We
have
yet
to
come
to
council
to
approve
that
particular
debt
issue,
as
we
anticipate
we'll
do
that
sometime
this
year,.
U
AB
U
A
AB
A
A
AD
Baird
Deputy
Administrator
of
infrastructure.
What
has
come
before
Council
so
far
is
the
purchase
of
the
additional
land
and
police
charisa.
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
and
the
initial
Services
agreement,
which
is
to
get
public
input
on
that
design
and
then
begin
the
design
and
prepare
a
guaranteed
maximum
price
that
should
take
about
a
year.
Is
that
right?
So
we
are
a
few
months
into
that
and
then,
when
we
come
back
to
you
again,
it
will
be
for
the
guaranteed
maximum
price
for
the
construction
council.
T
I
I
won't
further
delay
this
conversation.
We
when
it's
time
to
vote,
we
will
address
it
and
hopefully
approve
this
project
with
no
problems.
Q
V
The
issue
here
and
I,
first
of
all,
I
should
say:
charisha
Hills
is
a
fantastic
and
another
thing.
I'm
saying
is
a
criticism
or
her
I
know
all
the
other
staff
are
great,
and
but
there's
there's
and
I
appreciate
these
presentations
on
the
CIP.
These
are.
This
is
only
for
my
newer
colleagues
is
only
second
time.
We've
had
this
kind
of
detailed
presentation,
but
I
think
the
point
I'm
making
is
I.
Think
there's
a
step.
That's
been
missing
in
this
whole
discussion.
V
What
I
would
appreciate
having
what
what
happens
is
you
all
have
come
to
us
now
twice
and
said:
here's,
the
CIP
and
here's,
how
much
everything
costs
and-
and
the
last
time
you
all
presented-
was
the
first
time
I
ever
saw
that
we
were
going
to
spend
41
million
dollars
in
this
bar,
so
somebody
should
have
briefed
us
on
that
before
the
other
thing
going
back
before.
That,
even
is
that,
if
we
have
let's
say
for
this
coming
fiscal
year,
you
think
we
have
200
million
in
bonding
capacity
I'm
making
up
that
number.
V
But
you
think
we
have
200
million
bonding
capacity.
We
should
have
a
discussion
as
city
council
to
discuss
what
we
think
that
should
be
spent
on,
should
it
be
spent
on
fire
trucks
and
and
fire
stations
should
it
be
spent
on
20
different
Parks
or
should
it
be
spent
on
one
part,
and
this
is
the
problem
that
I
have
that
that
discussion.
That
part
of
the
discussion
is
missing.
We
have
a
lot
of
priorities
in
the
city
and
we're
trying
to
we're
all
trying
to
juggle
all
of
them.
V
V
Do
we
have
750
million
in
bond
capacity
this
year?
Could
we
fix
all
the
parks?
At
the
same
time,
let's
say
when
the
plan
that
council
member
Vieira
has
asked
for
for
Public
Safety,
let's
say
including
all
the
fire
stations
of
fire
trucks,
everything
that
we
need
all
the
police
stations.
Let's
say
it's
200
million
dollars.
Do
we
have
200
million
at
Bond
capacity
this
year
that
we
could
just
do
all
of
it
at
once?
Our
road
repair
budget's
about
five
million
a
year
and
and
we
don't
repair
but
roads
except
every
75
years.
V
Let's
say
we
had
200
million
in
bond
capacity
and
we
could
fix
all
the
roads
in
the
whole
city
all
at
once.
Would
we
do
that?
These
are
the
kinds
of
priorities
that
we're
trying
to
juggle
and
if
we're
not
included
in
the
decision
making
process
about
about
how
to
create
the
priorities,
then
we
also
can't
defend
them
and
can't
go
to
the
public
and
explain
them.
Thank
you.
T
A
question:
is
it
the
order
of
operation,
because
all
of
this
stuff
has
been
presented
to
the
community?
There's
been
meetings
and
renderings,
and
now
we're
talking
about
money,
I've,
always
I've
known
that
it
was
going
to
cost
41
million
dollars.
So
does
it
shouldn't
that
take
place
beforehand,
because
the
community
is
already
prepared
to
have
this
park
and
I?
T
AB
AB
A
little
bit
and
then-
and
then
sharesha
of
course,
can
come
on
in
I,
can't
speak
to
the
extent
of
public
participation,
and
things
like
that,
you
heard
Mr
Baird,
say
one
of
the
opportunities
for
city
council
to
approve
this
project
will
be
approval
of
a
GMP
of
a
contract.
Another
another
opportunity
for
city
council
was
the
approval
of
the
land
acquisition
again.
If
city
council
feels
that
they're
not
informed
enough
on
the
capital
Improvement
program,
or
we
can
certainly
try
to
remedy
that,
but
it
is
part.
AB
This
project
is
part
of
the
adopted
Capital
Improvement
program
for
fiscal
year
23..
The
city
council
will
also
get
another
opportunity
to
approve
or
not
approve
the
debt
issuance
that
will
bring
to
you
to
fund
to
fund
this
project
so
again,
just
to
provide
a
little
context
as
to
the
opportunities
for
review
again
to
the
extent
city
council
feels
they're
not
informed.
That's
that's
I
think
that's
another
issue,
but
we'll
certainly
try
to
address
it.
Q
I
I
think
the
basic
idea
we're
getting
to
is,
you
know
informed
decision
making
is
just
making
sure
as
we
go
throughout
a
big
project.
How
much
it
is
my
recollection
is,
and
I
could
be
wrong
when
this
East
Tampa
project
started
for
the
recreation
it
was
18
million.
I
believe
I
could
be
wrong.
Yeah.
S
Q
Million
okay,
second
yeah,
so
at
one
time
it
was,
and
now
it
appears
to
be
doubled
and
again
just
consent,
informed
decision
making
on
the
part
of
council,
Etc
I.
Think
that's
the
main
issue,
because
everybody
supports
us
I,
remember
when
it
first
got
brought
up
in
2019.
You
know
it
was
quite
controversial
seeking
in
the
middle
of
the
budget,
all
that
stuff,
etc,
etc.
So
we
all
support
it
that
it's
just
about
having
the
right
decision,
making
involvement,
I'll
stop
talking.
Thank.
AB
AB
V
Do
you
agree
that,
if
that
we
should
spend
40
million
41
million
dollars
in
this
park,
and
even
if
we're
not
approving
the
final
contract,
whatever
there
was
a
step
missing,
it
shouldn't
be
that
the
public
believes
that
we're
going
to
build
something,
and
then,
after
the
fact
we
we're
asked
to
approve
the
contract.
It's
before
we
go
to
the
public
with
a
41
million
dollar
budget,
get
city
council
to
prove
it
in
some
way.
Even
if
it's
just
an
initial
approval,
well,.
AC
Make
it
quick,
thank
goodness
for
Miss
Mary
and
her
snacks
next
door,
Fila
Brothers
we'll
make
it
quick.
You
can
see
the
business
case
here,
the
improvements
that
what
parks
provide
to
the
quality
of
life
in
Tampa
or
for
Tampa
and
our
residence.
So
I'll
just
tell
you
now
it's
been
a
long
time
coming.
AC
We
are
here.
We
have
a
ribbon
cutting
on
Monday,
so
Monday
at
10,
A.M
I,
believe
you
guys
have
all
received
it.
If
you
come
out
to
Villa
brothers
park
for
the
ribbon,
cutting
Forest,
Hills
It's,
a
combination
project
with
storm
water
and
Parks
and
Recreation
so
being
able
to
make
these
improvements
after
stormwater
has
addressed
some
much
needed
or
critical
issues
that
they
have
there
or
concerns
that
they
have
there.
AC
What
we
have
so
far,
our
Trail
actually
is
complete
and
has
been
used
already.
People
are
excited,
our
courts
have
been
surfaced
and
are
ready
to
be
painted.
We
are
still
on
target
for
completion
in
August
of
this
year.
AC
Here's
a
little
site
Point,
that's
here,
so
we
have
a
basketball,
pickleball
multi-use
field,
which
is
something
that
we
we
lock
in
a
lot
of
parks
and
recreations
is
a
dedicated
field
space.
So
this
is
a
multi-use
field
that
can
be
used
for
football,
lacrosse,
tennis
court,
slash
pickleball
or
pickleball
courts
that
are
there
in
tennis
courts
as
well.
AC
And
the
last
one
to
go
through
is
a
think
of
motion
by
councilman
Vera
to
look
at
veterans
memorials,
so
the
first
one
we're
looking
at
is
Jim
Walters
Park
in
Carver
City,
which
is,
if
you
know
the
history,
is
very
interesting.
It
it's
an
area
that
black
soldiers
located
to
when
they
were
stationed
here,
because
they
where
they
were
not
allowed
to
live
so
a
lot
of
history.
That's
there.
AC
We
have
started
that
project
invasive
tree
removal
has
been
complete,
we're
at
our
next
step,
where
we're
going
to
start
excavation
and
landfill
mitigation,
and
this
project
has
a
Target
ribbon,
cutting
date
of
July
4th
and
here's
a
rendering
of
what
this
area
will
look
like.
So,
if
you've
seen
Jim
Walters
before
that
Park
to
see
this
here,
we've
done.
A
lot
of
community
outreach
have
gotten
with
a
gentlemen
that
headset
Mr,
Reggie
Bolton
and
really
sat
with
him
and
gotten
pictures,
but
also
talking
to
the
community
so
very
excited
about
that.