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From YouTube: TCC Pt.2 9/7/23
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Tampa City Council
A
C
C
D
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E
City
staff
has
determined
that
all
statutory
and
public
notice
requirements
have
been
met
and
recommend
that
Council
approve
this
designation
at
the
conclusion
of
this
second
public
hearing,
Council
will
have
an
opportunity
to
pass
a
resolution,
designating
eboard
Gateway
Redevelopment
area
as
a
Brownfield
area
as
specified
in
chapter
376
of
Florida
Statutes
staff
and
I,
and
the
applicants
representative
are
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
do.
B
B
D
F
Yes,
sir,
move
the
resolution.
We.
C
B
G
Thank
you
chairman
and
Council
lashon
dock
development
coordination
and
Council
item
number
63,
Is
Res
2328.
This
item
is
before
you
today
for
second
reading.
This
is
for
the
property
at
3707
and
3709
West
McKay
Avenue.
The
request
was
to
rezone
the
property
from
r01
residential
office
to
PD
plan
development
for
residential
single
family
attached
uses.
The
site
plan
has
been
certified
and
provided
to
the
clerk
and
again
this
is
before
you
for
second
reading
and
adoption
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
do
we
have
any
questions.
H
B
B
A
A
Little
to
zero
impact
on
residential
units
around
it,
I
think
the
market
will
dictate
whether
it's
a
good
project
or
not,
and
that's
necessarily
for
me
to
make
that
determination,
and
so
that's
why?
Because
it
has
no
impact
on
Residential
Properties
around
it.
Thank
you
or
a
little
impact
on
them.
B
Yes,
sir,
now
we
may
have
a
motion
to
move
the
resolution
motion
from
councilwoman
Henderson.
Do
we
have
a
second
second?
Second
councilman
Miranda
roll
call,
No
Voice
vote
go
ahead,
all
in
favor.
D
B
B
K
I
Martin
Shelby
city
council
attorney
and
also
for
the
purposes
of
the
record,
if
the
if
the
agenda
could
be
amended
to
reflect
or
or
somehow
the
record
be
amended
the
minutes
to
reflect
that
at
the
first
reading
on
August
17th,
it
doesn't
appear
on
the
agenda,
but
just
for
the
purposes
of
the
public,
and
today
you
did
abstain
at
the
first
reading.
B
D
A
Okay,
so
we're
on
I
item
number
64
and
we
have
a
staff
report.
Yes,.
G
Thank
you,
Council
LaShawn
dock
development
coordination
item
64
is
Rez.
2350
is
for
the
property
located
at
2529
West
Curtis
Street.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
rs50
residential
single
family
to
ro
residential
office.
This
item
is
before
you
today
for
second
reading
and
adoption.
This
is
a
euclidean
zoning,
so
there
is
no
site
plan
associated
with
this
request.
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions
any.
L
Good
afternoon
tour
Gardener
400
North
Ashley
Drive.
This
received
a
4-2
vote
before
euclideans
is
straightforward.
Two
concerns
that
were
raised.
One
pertaining
to
the
sidewalk
just
wanted
to
comment
on
the
record,
even
though
it's
not
a
PD
that
that
will
be
provided.
There
were
also
some
Transportation
concerns
raised.
We
as
a
show
good
faith
in
the
direction
of
our
client,
has
continued
to
work
on
that
and
Addie
Clark.
L
M
Good
afternoon
Addie
Clark
400,
North,
Ashley
Drive,
so
as
true
and
it
said,
we
had
spoken
with
transportation
and
Mobility
staff
prior
to
First
reading,
knowing
that
there
were
some
concerns
about
traffic
and
after
first
reading,
we
again
met
with
city
transportation,
mobilities
staff,
to
bring
attention
to
this
area
and
we're
happy
to
report
that,
as
of
late
last
week,
the
mobility
department
was
going
to
be
looking
into
this
area
again
further
again,
this
project
is
de
minimis
in
terms
of
number
of
new
external
trips
and
the
city's
previous
speed
study
reported
that
there
were.
M
A
Okay,
very
good.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Any
questions
is
there.
Anybody
from
the
public
here
to
speak
to
on
this
issue
nobody's
registered
it's
hearing.
No
one.
Do
we
have
motion
to
close
from
councilman
Miranda,
a
second
by
councilwoman
Henderson
and
let's
have
a
I'm.
Sorry,
all
in
favor
of
closing
debate
say
aye
and
opposed.
Okay.
Debate
is
closed.
So
councilwoman
Henderson.
Would
you
please
read
it.
N
I'm
a
lead-23-50,
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
and
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
2529
West
Curtis
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
and
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning,
District
classifications,
RS,
50,
residential
single
family
to
ro
residential
office,
providing
an
effective
date.
Okay,
okay.
A
G
Thank
you,
Council
lashon
dock
development,
coordination
and
Council
item
65
is
Rez
2349..
This
item
is
on
the
agenda
today
for
second
reading,
but
this
item
for
this
particular
application
at
the
time
of
application
for
the
rezoning
the
applicant
applied
to
have
an
address
change
to
the
property
that
address
change
occurred
during
the
processing
of
this
rezoning.
The
original
ordinance
had
the
old
address
on
it.
So
what
is
before
you
now
is
first
reading
and
you
have
a
substitute
ordinance
that
has
been
provided
with
the
correct
address
on
it.
G
The
applicant
is
also
agreed
to
make
the
change
between
first
and
second
reading
to
the
site
plan
to
put
the
correct
address
on
the
site
plan
also,
so
this
is
for
just
for
the
record.
This
is
for
the
rezoning.
This
request
was
to
rezone
the
property
from
PD
to
PD
plan
development
and
it's
for
residential
multi-family
use
on
the
property.
G
B
We
would
read
the
substitute
the
substance
correct:
okay,
all
right,
I,
see
4502
before,
instead
of
the
trash,
correct,
okay
and.
K
O
B
A
Right
so
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading
and
adoption
and
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
4502
West
McCoy
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
and
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning,
District
classification,
PD
plan
development
to
PD
plan
development,
residential
multi-family,
providing
an
effective
date.
We.
N
C
G
Thank
you
chairman
and
Council
lashon
dock
development
coordination
item.
66
is
Rez
2362..
This
is
for
the
property
at
3204
West,
Cypress
Street.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
RS
50
residential
single
family
to
CG
commercial
General.
This
is
a
euclidean
I'm
rezoning
request,
so
there
is
no
site
plan
associated
with
this
request.
This
item
is
before
you
today
for
second
reading
and
adoption
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
any
questions.
B
Do
you
have
an
applicant
for
item
number
66?
Thank
you,
Mr
birkamar
were
used.
Do
you
have,
if
you
don't
have
anything
to
add,
but
were
you
sworn
in?
No
that's
yeah,
Mr
berkramon!
Please
turn
on
your
camera
and
unmute
yourself
and
we'll
swear
you
in.
B
K
B
Can
skip
no,
this
is
this
is
the
second
reading
this.
B
Of
his
I,
don't
yeah,
we
have
no.
We
have
four
after
this.
D
P
P
Thank
you,
file
number
Rez,
23-62
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
but
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
3204
West
Cypress
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
and
more
particularly
described
in
Section
1
from
zoning
District
classification,
RS,
50,
residential
single-family
to
CG
commercial
General,
providing
an
effective
date.
Dr.
G
Thank
you
I'm
chairman
and
Council
LaShawn
dock
development
coordination
item
67
is
Rez.
2364
is
for
the
property
located
at
5232
South
MacDill
Avenue.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
CG
commercial
General
to
PD
plan
development
for
the
use
of
a
restaurant
site
plan
modifications
were
required
to
be
made
between
first
and
second
reading.
Those
changes
were
made.
The
plan
was
certified
and
provided
to
the
clerk,
and
this
is
before
you
for
second
reading
and
adoption
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
any
questions.
Q
B
B
R
Yes,
sir,
move
file,
number
Rez,
23-64
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading;
adoption,
ordinance,
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
5232
South
MacDill
Avenue
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
and
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning,
District
classification,
CG,
commercial,
General
to
PD
plan
development,
restaurant
providing
an
effective
date.
We.
G
Thank
you,
Council
lashon
dock
development
coordination
item.
68
is
Rez
2365..
This
is
for
the
property,
it
has
a
folio
number
of
102
910
and
four
zeros.
This
is
property
on
Church
Avenue.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
rs50
residential
single
family
to
PD
plan
development,
and
it
is
for
the
use
of
residential
single
family
detached
and
certified
site
plans
have
been
provided
to
the
clerk.
There
were
modifications
to
be
made
between
first
and
second
reading,
and
this
is
before
you
today
for
second
reading.
All.
F
F
Thank
you.
Chairman
item
number
68
phone
number
re-z23-65.
in
order
to
be
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
known
as
rezoning
property,
General
vicinity,
a
photo
number
102
910-0000
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
particularly
scrap
in
section
one
from
zoning
districts
classification
or
has
50
residential
single
family
to
PD
plan
development,
residential
single
family
detached
providing
an
effective
thing.
We.
N
H
G
Thank
you
chairman
and
Council
lashon
dock
development
coordination
item.
69
is
Rez
2377,
it's
for
the
property
located
at
3917,
North
Nebraska
Avenue.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
PD
plan
development
to
CG
commercial
General.
This
is
a
euclidean
I'm
rezoning,
so
no
site
plan
is
associated
with
this
request
and
it's
before
you
today
for
second
reading
and
adoption
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
any
questions
all.
M
B
I
Moving
ordinance
presented
for
second
reading
adoption,
ordinance,
rezoning
property
in
the
general
facility
of
39-17
North
Nebraska
Avenue
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
more
particularly
described
than
section
one
from
zoning,
District
classification,
PD
plan
development
to
G
or
CG
commercial
General,
providing
an
effective
date.
We.
G
Number
70.,
thank
you
chairman
and
Council
lashon
doc
development
coordination
item
70
is
Rez.
2379
is
for
the
property
located
at
3119,
West
San
Pedro
Street.
The
request
is
to
rezone
the
property
from
rm16
residential
multi-family
to
rm18
residential
multi-family.
There
is
no
site
plan
associated
with
this
request.
It
is
a
euclidean
rezoning.
Thank
you,
I'm
available.
If
you
have
any
questions,
any
questions.
D
B
B
H
Steve
mccolini
representing
the
petitioner,
who
respectfully
requests
your
approval
and
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Any.
N
I
move
file,
number
rez-23-79
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
and
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
1339
West
San
Pedro
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
and
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning.
District
classifications,
rm16,
residential
multi-family
to
rm18
residential
multi-family,
providing
an
effective.
B
B
I
B
D
U
So
our
team
worked
extremely
hard
on
building
out
a
strategic
Communications
plan.
This
is
a
vision
and
a
guide
for
us
over
the
next
five
years.
We've
outlined
goals
and
strategies
for
us
to
achieve
those
goals.
Due
to
the
length
of
this
document
and
our
actual
strategic
plan
that
this
PowerPoint
highlights,
we
have
sent
you
Advanced
links,
I,
don't
know
if
you've
had
time
to
review
them.
U
So
we
have
that
as
a
PDF
plan,
and
we
have
a
PowerPoint
summary.
We've
already
met
with
the
PBA,
had
a
review
of
this
and
we're
all
in
agreement
on
our
vision
and
outline
for
the
next
year
in
the
next
five
years.
U
B
U
All
right,
so
the
mission
of
our
department
is
very
clear:
it's
up
here
it's
to
reduce
crime
and
improve
the
quality
of
life,
and
it's
not
just
alone,
and
we
talked
about
it
this
morning
and
some
of
the
awards
that
we
did
it's
a
cooperation
with
all
the
citizens,
so
that
kind
of
outlays.
What
everything
we
do
is
wrapped
around
our
mission.
U
In
addition
to
our
mission,
we
have
our
core
values,
which
some
of
you
may
or
may
not
be
aware
of,
but
the
acronym
is
trust
and
that
transparency,
respect
understanding
safety
and
teamwork
and,
of
course,
the
US
and
us
working
together.
We
say
constantly
there's
just
under
a
thousand
officers
and
nearly
400
000
citizens.
We
can't
do
this
alone,
so
we
stress
the
importance
of
that.
So
now
talking
about
Staffing
into
the
officer
citizen
ratio.
U
The
FBI
and
the
FDLE
have
established
that
as
the
average
ratio
for
sworn
officers,
but
that
is
not
the
only
measurement
that
we
use
there's.
The
other
considerations
that
we
have
in
here
is
not
just
the
ratio:
technology,
the
real
population,
the
population
of
the
business
Boom,
the
special
events,
our
calls
for
service.
We
talked
before
about
our
calls.
They
are
slightly
increasing,
but
not
just
the
number
of
calls,
but
the
time
we
spend
on
calls
has
increased
and
then,
of
course,
new
assignments
that
our
officers
have
that
they
haven't
had
in
the
past.
U
So
this
is
the
first
half
of
this
year
versus
the
first
half
of
last
year
in
dispatch
calls
you
can
see,
the
dispatch
calls
are
slightly
increasing
and
the
self-initiated
calls
are
relatively
the
same
and
with
our
response
times
that
are
well
within
our
our
goals.
So
Fleet
we
talked
about
our
vehicles
in
the
past.
The
big
thing
that
stands
out
here
is:
we
have
nearly
200
Cars
190
to
be
exact
that
are
2010
and
older.
U
So
our
goal
is
to
get
our
Fleet
to
a
seven
to
nine
year,
rotation,
which
is
more
of
the
industry
standard,
and
that
was
part
of
our
budget
request
for
additional
money
to
help
us
facilitate
that.
We've
talked
about
our
crime
rate
and
councilman.
Carlson
actually
did
a
good
job,
presenting
that
as
well
and
a
violent
crime
is,
is
on
the
down
and
year
to
date.
Our
numbers
are
down,
and
this
highlights
last
year's
violent
crime
compared
to
cities
our
size
in
the
nation.
U
So
what
our
strategic
plan
outlines
it
outlines
these
core
areas
is
crime
reduction,
Community
engagement,
Staffing
and
recruitment,
Capital
Improvement
projects
and
technological
improvements,
so
highlighting
these
areas
here,
the
first
one
we
have
is
crime
reduction.
So
how
do
we
sustain
this
crime
reduction
and
how
do
we
even
improve
on
it?
U
So
it's
it's
a
challenge
we've
been
making
over
the
last
year,
you'll
hear
the
mayor
and
the
chief
attack
staff
talk
about
it
is
we've
accomplished
almost
an
80
reduction
in
crime
over
the
last
several
decades
and
at
some
point,
where
is
that
bottom
of
that
crime?
We
don't
know
in
a
perfect
world
we'd
like
to
eliminate
all
crime
and
prevent
it
from
happening,
but
the
more
crime
we
reduce
the
harder
and
harder
it
is
to
continue
to
reduce
it
and
also
maintain
that
reduction
so
coming
up
with
innovative
ideas.
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A
U
All
right
so
evidence-based
strategies,
okay,
obviously
being
academic,
we're
not
going
to
waste
our
time
with
strategies
that
aren't
proven
we're
going
to
new
strategies
from
the
cops
office
doj
that
have
worked
Across,
the
Nation
and
strategies
that
we
create
that
are
proven
that
we've
seen
this
morning
that
other
agencies
take
from
us.
So
we
want
to
focus
on
those
some
of
those
are
Firearms
Grants
focused
deterrents,
our
crime
gun,
Intelligence
Center.
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Those
are
areas
that
actually
have
been
huge
successes
for
us
that
are
actually
modeled
across
the
nation
has
continue
that
and
expand
those
moving
on
to
the
next
slide.
It
focuses
on
property
crime,
obviously
with
property
crime.
We've
talked
about
Auto,
burglaries
and
education
and
including
increased
public
Outreach
of
locking
your
car
and
taking
your
valuables,
especially
your
Firearms
out
of
your
car.
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One
of
the
things
we're
also
trying
to
do
is
get
more
of
our
community
members
to
assist
us
in
that
which
is
increasing
our
communication
with
neighborhood
watch
groups
and
ensure
that
crimes
are
being
investigated
thoroughly.
So
interesting
point
right
here
as
I
was
speaking
with
the
Cleveland
police
chief
last
night
and
they
are
experiencing
a
huge
surge
in
Auto
thefts
and
they
were
talking
about
the
Kias
and
Hyundais
which
we
have
experienced,
but
nowhere
near
the
level
of
their
search.
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So
we
were
talking
about
the
strategies
that
we
do
and
how
we
thoroughly
investigate
those
and
he's
like
I.
Don't
have
the
resources
to
do
what
you
all
are
doing
like
like
you
know,
we
do
probation
checks,
we
do
offender
checks,
he's
down
like
300
officers
and
he
doesn't
have
that
ability
to
do
that
and
he's
making
up
for
ground
and
I,
don't
know
if
he'll
ever
be
able
to
catch
up
actually
felt
bad
for
him.
Having
that
conversation,
we
don't
ever
want
to
be
in
a
position
like
that.
So
moving
on
is
community
outreach.
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How
do
we
expand
those?
How
do
we
expand
our
youth
programs
build
in
our
next
Generation,
maintain
trust
and
confidence,
and
we
talked
about
the
Police
Athletic
League
already.
Don't
want
to
be
too
repetitive
on
that,
but
we
have
our
rich
house
programs
if
you're
not
familiar
with
that.
We
have
one
in
Sulfur,
Springs
and
Robles
Park.
Eventually,
we
would
like
to
expand
that
into
West
Tampa,
it's
more
of
a
vision
for
us
now,
but
over
the
next
five
years,
we'd
like
to
have
a
plan
outlined
for
that.
U
You
saw
this
morning
the
success
of
the
shielding
our
teens
program.
Obviously
we
want
to
capitalize
on
that
again
expand
that
expand
our
Police
Explorers
program.
Currently,
that
program
actually
only
goes
for
high
school.
We
want
to
expand
that
into
Middle,
School
and
Communications
and
mentorship
so
other
programs
to
develop.
You
know
who
knows
what
the
next
officer
Baker
is
going
to
come
up
with
ideas
that
we
haven't
even
thought
of
before.
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So,
in
addition
to
that
create
increase
our
community
outreach,
so
we
have
here,
neighborhood
watch
programs
expand
the
neighborhood
watch
programs,
so
one
thing
that
we've
started
to
do
in
our
comstat
meetings.
We
have
monthly
crime
meetings
and
talk
about
where
crimes
are
surging
and
what's
happening
in
there
and
what's
causing
it
is
now
measuring
those
areas
of
high
pockets
of
crime
and
whether
or
not
a
neighborhood
watch
program
is
there
or
not?
And
it's
interesting
when
you
overlay
the
crime
and
you
can
see
some
pockets
of
Fence
crime.
There's
a
neighborhood
watch
program.
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That's
missing
from
that
neighborhood!
So
we've
challenged
our
commanders
to
solicit
and
engage
more
of
the
community
in
those
neighborhood
watches
and
measuring
that
so
that
that's
a
goal
of
ours
is
to
increase
the
neighborhood
watch
programs
front.
Porch
roll
calls.
Obviously
that's
a
success
of
ours.
You
may
have
not
seen
it
that
we
advertise
is
having
a
front
porch
roll
call
in
your
neighborhood
in
your
house,
and
you
can
go
online
and
actually
request
that
and
then
Community
oriented
policing.
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That's
a
philosophy
that
I
talked
about
this
morning
that
we've
instituted
in
the
department,
not
just
a
certain
Squad
but
officer
wise,
is
to
continue
that
training
and
one
of
the
things
we've
did
in
that
we're
continuing
to
expand
as
the
new
recruits
that
come
in
before
we
give
them
a
badge,
a
gun
and
a
uniform.
We
bring
them
out
into
the
community.
We
bring
them
out
to
violent
crime
forums.
We
bring
them
out
to
fundraisers,
so
they
get
to
hear
the
community
and
see
the
community's
events
before
putting
on
the
uniform.
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In
addition
to
that,
the
new
recruits
when
they
finish
their
field
training
program,
we
require
them
to
complete
a
community-oriented
policing
project
to
come
up
with
a
solution
and
then
the
one
that's
best
picked
by
that
Captain.
Actually,
we
bring
to
the
staff
we
have.
A
new
recruit,
comes
to
the
staff
and
shares
with
us
their
initiative
and
idea,
so
we're
trying
to
become
increased
problem
solvers
and
addressing
the
core
issue
of
crime.
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So
the
next
part
here
is
develop
a
strategic
Communications
plan.
That's
something
that
we're
actively
working
on
it'll
take
some
time
to
do.
But
this
is
an
involved
plan
where
how
the
department
communicates,
both
internally
and
externally,
that
stakeholder
group
could
be
neighborhood
watch
groups,
it
could
be
city
council,
it
could
be
Community
activists,
it
could
be
citizens,
it
could
be
non-profits
and
to
collaborate
with
community
members
on
the
best
way
that
they
like
that
communication.
At
our
last
Tuesday
town
hall
meeting,
we
asked
the
community
how
they
engage
with
us.
U
We
asked
them
if
it
was
Twitter
Instagram.
They
went
on
our
website
and
you'd,
be
surprised
how
many
of
them
don't
even
realize
how
many
of
avenues
there
are
so
communicating
that
and
engaging
with
the
community
more
so
homeless.
It's
an
issue
that
we've
seen
and
how
can
we
address
that?
We
want
to
look
at
expanding
our
homeless
liaison
program
and
increasing
our
collaboration
with
outside
stakeholders
and
again
addressing
problem-oriented
policing.
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I
was
just
looking
at
an
article
today
from
Syracuse
addressing
this
very
topic,
and
it's
something
that's
near
and
dear
to
our
heart
is
providing
more
resources,
you'd,
be
surprised.
How
many
homeless
do
not
know
what
resources
that
are
out
there,
so
expanding
that
program
and
reorganizing
it
is
in
the
distant
Horizon
for
us
so
expand
and
address
community
members
suffering
Mental,
Health
crisis
kind
of
goes
hand
in
hand,
and
we
have
our
Behavioral
Health
Unit.
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We've
talked
about
it,
we're
reorganizing
that
to
work
more
hand
in
hand
with
our
homeless
Liaisons
and
we're
looking
for
additional
grant
funding
to
expand
that
unit.
While
it's
not
in
this
year's
budget,
it
will
be
in
the
next
several
years
to
increase
that
and
to
actually
look
at
other
jurisdictions
and
see
what's
working
well
for
them
and
what's
not
St
Pete's
program,
the
call
program
keeps
coming
up.
That
is
something
that
we're
looking
at
what
works?
Well
for
them.
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Our
program,
if
you
recall,
was
developed
by
the
mental
health
stakeholders
in
Hillsborough
County
unique
to
this
area,
but
we
do
like
to
take
what
works
well
in
other
communities
and
evaluate
them
and
see
if
it's
worth
addressing
over
here
discovers
the
last
point
there
and
then
additional
tools
to
help
us
with
the
Mental
Health
crisis.
So
we
do
provide
our
Officers
de-escalation
Training.
We
were
actually
one
of
the
Forefront
agencies
before
it
was
a
thing
we
were
doing
that
in
our
training
and
to
continue
training
all
of
our
officers
and
crisis
response
intervention.
U
It
is
a
cost
for
us
to
do
that.
It
takes
another
week
before
officers
hit
the
street
just
to
receive
that
training,
but
we
do
think
that
it's
worthwhile
and
we
are
moving
forward
with
integrating
our
specialists
in
the
9-1-1
center,
with
Crisis
Intervention
training
and
working
on
a
grant
by
providing
Specialists
there.
That
can
actually
be
on
the
Forefront
of
the
call.
Even
before
someone
arrives
to
the
scene.
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So
this
is
a
lot
of
repetitive
from
our
budget
request,
but
we
want
to
maintain
an
efficient
and
effective
Workforce
and
we
proposed
in
our
budget
adding
30
sworn
officers.
We
proposed
raising
the
number
of
sponsored
police
academies
from
one
to
two
and
we
continually
evaluate
the
needs
for
professional
staff.
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So
every
year
we
do
meet
yearly
and
go
over
our
staffing
plan
or
business
plan,
and
we
make
adjustments
based
on
that
year
and
if
we
do
see
a
need
for
a
budget
increase
request,
then
we
submit
that
to
the
mayor's
office
in
concert
with
the
population
growth.
We
look
at
positions
and
whether
or
not
it
goes
up
or
if
it
goes
down,
we
go
both
ways
on
adjusting
a
personnel's
strength.
Grant
opportunities
are
something
that
we
capitalize
on.
It's
a
grant
that
we
applied
for
for
those
30
officers
and
expanding
on
grant
opportunities.
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Now
is
the
time
to
do
we're
not
sure
how
much
longer
some
of
these
grants
will
be
available
with
the
federal
program
and
then
the
last
one
is
our
Reserve
officer
program.
If
you're
not
aware,
we
have
roughly
120
Reserve
officers
that
donate
their
time
to
the
city,
they
alleviate
a
lot
of
us
from
working.
Some
special
events
I
actually
started
here
as
a
Reserve
officer,
so
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
program,
and
we
want
to
continue
that
and
expand
it.
U
So
employee
Wellness
expand
the
wellness
programs
to
all
employees,
not
just
the
sworn
officers,
but
our
professional
staff,
our
forensic
units,
our
records
units,
our
dispatchers,
and
incorporate
additional
training
into
that
program.
One
thing
that
we're
just
getting
ready
to
start
is
a
wellness
mobile
app,
which
actually
was
provided
by
a
grant
from
the
federal
government
to
allow
our
employees
to
reach
out
for
peer
debriefings
and
other
resources
that
they
may
not
readily
have
available
to
them.
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And
you
every
time
you
come
up
here
and
you
see
an
officer
of
the
month,
they're
typically
here
with
a
family
member,
that
family
member
feels
that
stress
too,
reaching
out
to
them
and
supporting
the
family
is
a
goal
of
ours,
increasing
that
we
do
have
many
Family
Programs
out
there
now
for
spouses
and
there's
many
free
resources
out
there,
which
wouldn't
even
impact
our
budget.
It's
just
making
those
connections,
so
we
do
have
people
there,
but
we
want
to
continue
that
and
expand
it,
and
we
talked
about
the
peer
support.
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So,
then
safety,
ourselves,
ballistic
Shields,
our
officers
have
our
officers,
have
ballistic
vests,
believe
it
or
not,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
gimmick
or
not,
but
they
say
they
have
a
shelf
life
of
five
years,
so
we
have
to
replace
those
every
five
years
we
have
above
and
beyond
what
our
budget
requires.
We
have
our
police
foundation
rise,
Tampa
that
provides
ballistic
Shields.
They
continue
to
do
that
and
any
other
resources
out
there.
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Our
officers
have
to
be
prepared
to
address
the
threats
that
are
faced
with
them,
so
we
need
to
provide
them
with
both
the
offensive
and
the
defensive
measures
to
keep
themselves
and
the
community
safe
and
then
obviously
a
trauma,
whether
it's
a
trauma
with
a
citizen
or
whether
it's
trauma
with
an
officer
is
to
be
able
to
give
them
those
life
saving
measures
immediately
on
scene,
so
recruiting
and
retaining
highly
qualified
officers.
So
it's
it's
something
that
is
a
challenge.
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Nationwide
and
I
just
talked
about
the
Cleveland
police
chief
down
nearly
300
officers-
fortunately
we're
not
experiencing
here
to
the
level
of
the
other
nations,
but
we
don't
want
to
get
behind
a
curve.
So
we
are
annually
reviewing
a
recruitment
plan
setting
up
reviewing
our
holdover
training,
our
field
training
program
and
seeing
what
adjustments
we
need
to
make.
So,
for
example,
we
were
just
talking
this
morning
in
our
meeting
about
the
recruitment
we're
doing
at
the
historic
black
colleges
at
HCC
at
UT
at
USF.
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Yes,
so
the
I
think
I
already
touched
on
a
lot
of
this
here
is
the
30
by
30.
Just
got
ahead
of
myself
all
right.
So,
looking
at
this
in
a
conservative
estimate
of
the
city
growth,
we've
outlined
the
next
five
years
of
what
we
believe
on
a
conservative
level.
The
population
would
be
and
then
to
maintain
that
the
2.4
ratio,
so
at
2024,
if
we
receive
that
Grant,
we
would
add
30
officers
which
would
put
us
at
a
2.45,
and
then
you
can
see
basically
down
the
line.
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There's
an
asterisk
there,
because
that
number
could
go
up
or
could
go
down.
If
the
population
goes
down
obviously
or
stays
the
same,
we
wouldn't
be
requesting
officers
that
would
be
evaluated
on
a
year-by-year
basis,
but
potentially,
if
it
goes
along
that
scale,
we
could
add
if
the
budget
would
allow
up
to
80
sworn
positions
by
2028.
V
Calvin
Johnson
deputy
chief
Tampa
Police
Department,
so
on
the
first
one,
our
goal
is
trying
to
complete
the
impound
lot
and
forensics
unit
with
the
move
to
Howard.
Avenue
I
would
like
to
say
that
our
folks,
they
work
very
hard
on
the
impound
a
lot
and
we
were
able
to
move
from
34th
Street
already
to
Lois
Avenue,
where
Crockett
Towing
was
at.
It
took
a
lot
of
work.
V
They
did
a
great
job
doing
that
the
Howard
Avenue
project
we're
consistently
working
on
that
with
lamb,
trying
to
get
the
best
product
out
there
making
sure
the
facility
covers
evidence
and
forensics.
V
When
it
comes
down
to
the
renovation
of
the
training
facility,
we
work
hand
in
hand
with
police
fire.
We
train
sometimes
at
the
same
place
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
upgrades
and
Renovations
they
work
both
for
police
and
fire.
So
we
meet
all
the
time
trying
to
get
that
plan
focused
and
hopefully,
when
it's
done
it's
going
to
benefit
both
police
and
fire.
V
When
it
comes
down
to
the
future
relocation
of
police
headquarters,
that's
in
discussion,
no
real
plans
at
this
time
trying
to
find
the
location
trying
to
find
out
what
we
need
trying
to
find
out
how
big
of
a
spot
that
takes
a
whole
lot.
So
that's
a
work
in
progress
and
we
can
get
back
with
you
on
that
in
the
near
future.
V
When
it
comes
down
to
the
forensic
at
the
impound
lot,
a
lot
went
into
not
just
our
evidence
going
out
there,
but
actually
how
we
process
being
processed
blood,
how
we
process
fingerprints
that
is
also
aspect
of
going
to
the
new
impound
lot.
V
The
layout
of
that
worked
with
that
supervisor
from
forensics
and
evidence
they
work
hand
in
hand
to
make
sure
that
what
we're
doing
out
there,
the
new
location,
is
going
to
really
fit
everybody
as
a
team
in
park
and
when
it
comes
down
to
how
we
handle
crime
before
it
goes
to
court
and
after
it
goes
to
court
to
make
sure
those
that
hurt
our
community
they're
held
accountable
when
it
comes
to
the
infrastructure
that
we
have
that's
district
one
District,
Two,
District,
three
communications
and
headquarters
they're
in
pretty
good
condition.
V
Right
now,
whenever
things
go
on
regarding
offensively
and
broke
or
regarding
a
leak
or
something
like
that,
lamb
responds
when
we
request
them
and
they
make
sure
things
are
taken
care
of
in
a
speedy
manner.
So
all
three
districts
at
this
point
in
time
are
in
pretty
good
condition
and
no
complaints
regarding
our
Communications
building.
V
But
when
it
comes
down
to
additional
police
vehicles,
Chief
bird
call
touched
on
that
regarding
our
goal
and
what
we're
trying
to
get
to
with
the
police
vehicles.
V
Something
else
that
we
have
on
this
slide
right
here
is
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
our
air
service
I
know
major
meals,
came
here
a
few
weeks
ago
and
talked
about
Air
Service.
We're
trying
to
make
sure
that
the
fleet
that
we
have
it
stays
up
to
date,
some
of
the
helicopters
they
have
put
in
a
whole
lot
of
time,
and
we
got
to
make
sure
that
our
Pilots
are
up
there
and
they're
safe
when
they're
flying
the
helicopters.
V
Going
into
technology
our
main
thing
with
technology,
the
crime
fight
has
changed.
How
folks
look
into
committing
crimes
has
changed
and
we
have
to
change
our
times
and
plus
be
ahead
of
the
curve
when
it
comes
back
to
combating
Crime.
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
expand
technology
employed
by
the
real-time
crime
Center
to
help
us
out
really
in
big
projects
parades
and
if
violent
crimes
occur
in
certain
areas,
they
can
have
that
overall,
View
and
direct
the
officers
on
where
to
go
in
real
time.
V
V
We're
always
trying
to
get
better
in
that,
because
the
main
focus
of
us
that
teach
videos
to
bring
down
violent
crime
when
it
comes
down
to
technology
regarding
cyber
crimes,
internet
crimes
against
children,
we're
always
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
ahead
of
the
curve
with
that
our
children,
our
our
youth
being
preyed
upon
by
Predators,
is
not
acceptable.
V
When
it
comes
down
to
how
we
deploy
it
in
the
community,
it's
very
important
when
it
comes
down
to
community
outreach
and
I
know
the
chief
brought
up
the
cell
phone
in
a
couple
of
conversations.
They
do
a
lot
for
the
officers
as
far
as
investigating
crimes,
but
also
the
community
I
give
out
my
phone
number
daily
and
folks
call
me
dating
they.
They
want
to
hear
from
the
police.
V
We
had
a
meeting
up
there
in
Sulfur
Springs
a
couple
of
Tuesdays
ago,
and
one
thing
they
said
there
as
a
community
is
they
want
to
be
able
to
talk
to
the
officers?
They
saw
our
staff
up
there
and
they're
like
no.
We
need
your
officers
here
so
getting
the
officers
a
way
to
communicate
without
giving
their
personal
numbers
out
to
the
citizens
because
they
need
their
privacy.
This
will
help
them
bridge
that
Gap
with
their
community
when
it
comes
down
to
community
surveys.
V
That's
how
we
get
the
concerns
of
our
citizens
and
we
get
their
sentiments.
So
we're
always
trying
to
get
the
best
kind
of
surveys
that
we
can,
and
we
partnership
with
the
citizen
review
board
to
make
sure
we're
on
the
right
page
with
the
surveys
and
we're
going
to
try
and
put
those
out
there
to
find
out
how
we're
policing
it's
very
important
to
us
to
police
in
a
way
that
uplifts,
the
health
of
the
city
of
Tampa.
V
Transparency
is
very
important
when
it
comes
down
to
law
enforcement.
There's
been
a
lot
of
discussions
here
in
city
council,
but
also
Nationwide
with
law
enforcement
and
transparency.
We're
trying
to
get
the
best
technology
to
improve
our
website
to
put
things
out
there.
So
folks
have
easy
access
to
it.
We
take
recommendations
on
how
we
can
improve
it
and
we're
always
trying
to
find
the
best
way
to
let
the
citizens
know
that
we
value
the
information
that
they're
asking
for
and
being
able
to
get
that
information
to
them.
V
D
V
It
allows
our
staff
and
our
officers
to
get
coached
and
we
can
oversee
what
they're
doing,
because
there's
two
sides
of
policing
when
you're
in
the
administration
making
sure
crime
is
getting
reduced,
but
also
in
a
safe
Manner
and
everybody
gets
treated
with
a
dignity
and
respect.
So
when
they
first
came
out,
there
was
a
lot
of
hesitation
really
Nationwide.
V
U
So,
in
conclusion,
this
is
It's
a
vision
that
outlines
specific
goals
for
us
and
under
each
goal,
then
we've
added
strategies
to
complete
those
goals
and
we've
put
those
goals
under
these
categories
here
under
crime
reduction,
Community
engagement,
Staffing
and
recruitment,
Capital
Improvement
projects
and
technological
improvements.
So
this
is
this
is
almost
like.
It's
a
guide
for
us
over
the
next
five
years
to
stay
on
our
goals
and
determine
okay.
What
strategies
do
we
need
to
do
to
achieve
those
goals?
U
B
You
very
much
chief
for
a
very
detailed
presentation.
I
know
this
took
a
lot
of
hard
work.
You
and
your
team
putting
this
together,
you
to
deputy
chief
Johnson
so
for
the
30
new
officers
that
are
in
the
talking
about
this.
This
budget
there
was
grant
money,
but
you
needed
funding
to
match
that
correct.
Yes,.
U
So
the
30
we
applied
for
a
grant
and
the
grant
is
a
five-year
Grant.
Okay,
okay
years,
one
through
three
are
a
match
years.
Four
and
five.
The
city
is
on
the
hook
for
a
hundred
percent.
So
if
we
are
approved
that
Grant
in
October
1st,
which
we
should
find
out,
then
we
would
need
the
match
for
the
first
year,
which
is
what
we
submitted
in
our
budget
request.
B
Okay,
no,
no!
That's
that's
what
I
had
so
you
would
need
1.8
million
dollars
in
this
budget
in
order
to
match
the
the
grant
for
the
for
the
first
year.
So.
B
Year,
one
all
right
and
then
with
the
vehicles
vehicles
have
been
purchased
with
CIT
money
in
the
past.
Correct,
okay,.
O
B
Cit
comes
up
for
expiration
around
the
corner,
but
it
would
go
on
a
ballot
most
likely
next
year
in
anticipation
of
it
expiring.
If
it
goes
on
the
ballot
for
renewal
once
the,
if
it
does
get
renewed,
we
can
look
beyond
the
what
we
you
know:
it'll
be
sun
setting
in
26
27,
whatever
it
is
27.,
we
can
look
beyond
that
and
start
committing
CIT
money.
U
B
And
where
all
the
needs
are,
you
know,
after
the
after,
though
I
believe
that
is
that
is
it,
I
saw
a
lot
of
hands,
go
up,
councilman,
Carlson
or
start
with
you.
Vieira
okay
go
sir.
R
R
You
talked
about
I'm
just
going
to
ask
some
random
questions.
You
talked
about
communication
plan
just
because
it's
my
industry
like
who's
doing
it.
How
are
you
guys
doing
in-house?
Are
you
Outsourcing.
U
A
little
bit
of
both
it's
a
very
complex
project
and
I,
just
hired
a
new
public
information
officer.
So
it's
a
collaborative
effort
on
that
and
it's
going
to
be
specific
to
modeled
off
of
the
dod
Department
of
Justice
and
the
cops
office
and
the
major
City
Chiefs
actually
recently
published
a
template
on
a
police
agency,
strategic
Communications
plan.
So
we're
using
that
as
a
template.
Do
you
think
you'll
be
able
to
do
it
all
in-house,
no
I'm
going
to
need
some
assistance
at
a
house.
R
And
then
and
then
going
back
two
three
years,
we
heard
a
lot
of
negative
feedback
in
the
community
about
communication
from
the
police
department,
which
I
talked
about
a
lot
in
public
and
I
won't
go
back
through
all
the
examples,
but
I
I
have
not
heard
any
complaints
in
the
last
since
you've
been
on
for
sure.
So
whatever
has
changed.
Thank
you
to
whomever
has.
R
U
Not
be
aware
of
it,
but
today
you
actually
approved
a
technological
advancement
for
us,
that's
going
to
engage
with
the
community
and
once
we
roll
that
out,
get
it
tested
and
make
sure
that
it's
working
right
then
we'll
release
it
publicly.
But
it's
going
to
connect
the
community
to
the
police
department
like
it's
never
happened
before
and.
R
I
think
you
know
sometimes
people
get
criticized
for
putting
an
individual
out
but
you're,
also
new
in
that
role
and
everywhere
I
track
online
from
the
emails
we
get,
that
the
Pio
is
sending
out
to
the
media
very
thorough,
detailed
to
the
the
the
tweets
and
and
other
posts
I
think.
All
of
it
is
very
good
at
trying
to
communicate
with
the
public.
So
that's.
D
U
R
That
yeah
so
anyway,
congrats
everybody-
you
I,
have
to
bring
this
up.
A
few
months
ago,
sorry,
late
last
year,
PBA
told
me
that
we
needed
200
police
officers.
I
talked
about
that
a
lot
in
the
campaign.
The
mayor
said,
we
didn't
need
any,
and
now
we
need
30..
So
can
you
just
tell
me
what
happened?
What
what
changed.
U
R
R
R
Yeah,
so
that
means
that
Grant
is
going
to
be
like
three
or
four
million
the
first
year
is
here
it's
about
two-thirds
and
then
you
spend
a
lot
of
time
with
me
as
I
thanked
you
last
week
on
the
violent
crime
rate,
the
and
because
you're
a
data
person
I'll,
ask
this
question,
but
it
peaked
and
sorry
I
don't
have
this
chart
out,
but
it
peaked
around
2015
at
almost
2300,
and
this
is
the
way
the
FBI
counts,
violent
crime,
which
is
different,
I
think
than
the
way
the
Chiefs
do
it,
the
national
Chief
Association,
but
it
went
20
2300
and
then
it
went
down
for
several
years.
R
The
bottom
was
like
2018
about
1600,
but
then
2020
it
popped
back
up
a
lot
to
21
19
and
then
2021.
It
was
22,
20,
22,
29
and
then
last
year
was
21.86.
So
from
2021
to
2022,
I
I
calculate
two
percent
drop,
which
is
in
the
right
direction,
but
we're
still
way
ahead
of
where
we
were
in
2018
and
I
say
this
knowing
that
you're
just
relatively
new
in
the
police
chief.
But
what?
R
U
The
spike
isn't
unique
to
the
city
of
Tampa.
It's
a
nationwide
Spike
and
we've
seen
that
more.
It's
access
to
Firearms,
it's
the
pandemic
in
general.
It's
it
there's
a
whole
slew
of
factors
there
and
I
think
it
was
mentioned.
It's
the
core
issue
right.
What
what
are
some
things?
We
can
do
reduce
access
to
Firearms
communicate
that
out.
That
was
something
we
outlaid
in
the
plan
is
how
to
educate
citizens
not
to
leave
Firearms,
unsecured
in
your
vehicle
or
in
your
house.
U
Some
of
the
measures
that
we've
taken
is
putting
that
out
providing
free
gun
locks,
so
so
in
the
crime
triangle,
basically
you're
trying
to
not
only
make
it
more
difficult
for
the
suspect
to
commit
a
crime,
but
you're
also
asking
the
victim
to
be
held
accountable
to
make
the
access
less
easier.
So
education
on
that
is
key.
I
think
the
trends
that
are
going
Nationwide
were
not
experienced
to
the
level
we
are
here
and
I.
Think
part
of
that
is
Tampa's
innovation
in
the
crime
gun
intelligence
unit.
U
Having
that
intelligence,
having
the
ability
to
look
at
evidence
as
far
as
shell
casings
right
away
and
determining
if
there's
a
linkage
between
a
shooting
and
another
shooting,
helps
our
detectives
out
tremendously,
and
we
have
that
ability
to
get
that
turn
around
within
days
versus
weeks
or
months.
Like
some
other
agencies
have
that
ability.
R
R
Great
yeah,
Senate
email
I'd
like
to
do
it
so
the
last
thing
is
you
talk
about
mental
health.
Thank
you
for
focusing
on
that.
There
are
some
members
of
the
community
who
push
to
have
a
separate
mental
health
unit.
R
I
got
a
lot
of
pushback
from
police,
but
also
from
the
mental
health
industry,
saying
they.
It
needs
to
be
a
partnership.
You
all
worked
with
the
administration
to
create
a
a
hybrid.
There
are
still
some
members
of
the
community
that
want
it
to
be
completely
separate.
We
can
debate
that
another
time,
but
I
appreciate
the
update
on
this
and
anything
you
all
can
do
to
give
us
regular
updates
on
the
on
the
kinds
of
cases
you're
dealing
with
and
the
benefit
of
that
I
think
you
all
see
a
definite
benefit.
R
I
know
there
was
a
high
profile
case
in
downtown
a
few
weeks
ago,
with
someone
from
South,
Florida
and
and
and
anything
you
can
do
to
talk
about
how
that's
working
and
and
how
it's
been
beneficial
would
be
helpful
to
us
to
be
able
to
explain
the
community
that,
even
with
this
hybrid
situation,
it
is
helping
to
prevent
problems
in
the
community.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
You
very
much
Mr
chair,
appreciate
it.
Sir
I
I
appreciate
your
your
presentation
is
always
very,
as
other
folks
have
said,
very
in
depth
Etc.
So
you
know,
crime
is
obviously
Public.
Safety
is
always
the
biggest
issue.
That's
why
we've
been
pushing
for
a
public
safety
master
plan
for
a
long
time,
I
don't
have
to
lecture
yourself
for
the
firefighters
or
to
the
chief
trip
and
others
about
that.
I
Obviously,
that
that's
what
you
all
do
for
a
living,
24
7.,
and
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
put
that
on
the
Forefront
for
the
City
of
Tampa
every
single
day
every
single
week
to
make
sure
that
we
do
planning
with
regards
to
revenue,
etc,
etc.
So,
if
I'm
hearing
you
right
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
please
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
it'll
take
about
1.8
million
dollars
for
year,
one
for
the
matching
grant
for
the
30
officers,
correct.
I
And
that
money,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
for
this
discussion
on
Tuesday
that
money
was
supposed
to
come
from
that
was
budgeted
from
the
Milligan
police.
I
Okay
well
and
I'll
I'll
ask
him
because
again,
if
it
was
budgeted
from
the
millage
increase,
then.
U
U
I
Okay,
so
yeah
that
so
that's
something
that
I
want
to
know,
because
when
we're
looking
at
at
budget
cuts
Etc
in
other
words,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
money
available
with
the
steps
that
we
took
on
Tuesday
and
I.
Guess
we'll
defer
to
Mr
rohero
on
that
on
whether
or
not
the
the
money
would
be
available.
I
know
that
0.21
of
the
1.0
budget
or
the
1.0
millage
21
was
dedicated
to
Public
Safety,
that's
about
eight
or
nine
ten
million
dollars.
I
So
that's
something
that
I
obviously
want
to
find
out
so
that
we
know
what
we
have
to
do.
Etc.
We
have
to
find
that
money
somewhere,
Etc
and
and
with
the
vehicles
Etc.
So
that's
that's.
My
only
question
is
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
waive
that
Grant.
So
so
today
you
can't.
You
can't
tell
us
whether
or
not
that
money
is
is
available
in
the
budget.
We
have
to
defer.
U
I
I
Okay,
so
we'll
I'll
have
to
inquire
with
him
on
that.
That's
very
important
and
again
I
I
hope.
The
answer
is
that
that
we
have
it
without
the
millage,
but
that's
something
that
we
we
have
to
find
out.
Obviously,
because
that's
something
that
all
of
us
here
support
100
and
that
we
want
to
build
the
bridge
for
so
that's
also
I
can
inquire
with
Mr,
rohero
and
I'm
sure
we
all
will
but
again
very
detailed
presentation
and
yeah
a
very
important
issue.
We
we
appreciate
both
of
you
all.
Thank
you.
F
A
U
A
A
46
of
your
vehicles
are
in
that
time
parameter
already
and
that's
with
existing
CIT
funds,
so
we're
already
at
a
46
of
the
vehicles
with
existing
funding
sources
are
seven
years
or
older
in
the
police.
Force.
I
just
want
to
highlight
that
reference,
our
previous
discussions
about
this
budget,
so
the
CIT
is
already
factored
into
these
into
the
into
this
equation.
Now,
if
we
lose
the
CIT
yeah
God
knows
where
we're
going
to
go.
A
If
that's,
if
the
CIT
passes
with
the
percentages
and
with
if,
if
if,
if,
if
iPhones
I
the
iPhones,
did
you
have
the
discussion
on
impact
and
implementation
with
the
PVA?
The
union
is
the
union
okay
with
the
iPhones?
Yes,.
U
U
A
Have
ini
on
for
the
implementation
of
that,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
again
the
I
think
you
highlighted
at
that
meeting.
The
benefit
crime
photo
photos
which
will
help
in
our
prosecution
rates,
we're
having
accurate,
timely
photographs
being
able
to
communicate
for
Community,
Based,
policing,
correct
and
I'm
sure
the
list
goes
on
even.
U
A
A
Now,
if
I
heard
you
correctly,
our
ratio
is
right
at
the
FBI
or
the
federal
standard,
correct,
correct
now
how
when
that
is
factored
in,
do
they
because
you
know
not
that
we're
unique
but
we're
in
a
different
classification
of
other
types
of
communities
because
we're
a
tourist
destination
we're
also
the
workforce
destination
of
a
lot
of
of
people
come
into
our
city
every
day
and
work
here
and
leave
they're,
not
necessarily
residents,
and
we
have
a
large
student
population
so
between
students
and
tourists
and
workers.
U
Does
it
factors
in
there's
some
cities
that
could
operate
somewhat
efficiently
at
a
1.9?
Okay,
so
that
that
percentage
that's
an
average?
The
2.4
is
an
average.
It's
it's
an
average
that
we're
trying
to
stay
above
and
not
go
below
because
of
those
factors
that
you've
added
in
there
there's
other
things
that
augment
Us
in
that
as
well.
Usf
has
our
own
Police
Department
right,
UT
has
their
own
security,
so
there's
some
things
that
help
us
out,
except.
U
C
A
Police
are
not
there
they're,
not
there
you're
correct,
so
so
that,
but
we're
right
at
that
average
right
now
right,
we
are
I
mean
so
we
don't
have
any
room
to
wiggle
without
dropping
below
that
standard.
Correct,
okay,
very
good!
Thank
you.
Councilman.
U
F
Community,
maybe
we
can
get
some
commercials
other
gratitude
for
the
public.
The
second
one
is
Auto
thefts,
I,
remember.
Sometimes
in
the
mid
90s
we
had
over
11
000
cars
sold
in
the
city
of
Tampa.
We
had
it
down
to
400
something
I
forget
what
it
was
a
few
years
back,
I,
don't
know
where
it's
at
now,
so
maybe
that's
another.
We
can
work
at
the
next.
The
third
to
me
is
the
most
important
crime
is
created
way
before
you
pull
the
crime
yourself.
U
I,
don't
know
if
there's
a
statistic
on
that,
but
it's
here
it's
anecdotal
that
that
is
happening,
and
we
do
address
that
with
initiatives
that
we
have
now
that
I,
don't
think
any
officer
would
have
imagined
30
years
ago
that
we
are
filling
a
gap
that
we
didn't
fill
before
and.
U
Well
again,
I'd
have
to
pull
that
up,
but
the
the
1.9
was
an
agency
in
Arizona
I.
Believe
that's
an
example,
so
some
you'd
probably
find
Higher
and
some
you'd
find
lower,
but
I'd
have
to
pull
that
out.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
I
appreciate,
if
you
can
give
us
something
like
that,
but
anyway,
thanks
for
the
job
you've,
all
of
you
are
doing.
Your
men
and
women
are
the
police
force
and,
let's
see
what
happens
in
society,
the
more
we
talk
about
this
country
being
divided
in
half
the
more
crime
we're
going
to
get.
That's
just
my
opinion.
Thank.
N
N
And
the
other
question
that
I
have
is
in
terms
of
overtime-
that's
not
talked
about.
You
know
in
your
budget
officers
do
overtime
right.
There.
U
D
U
D
N
U
P
Thank
you,
I
know,
I
have
a
meeting
scheduled
with
all
the
department
heads
on
Friday
to
talk
that
very
thing,
because
we
are
going
to
have
to
cut
that's
the
unfortunate
reality
and
it
would
be
helpful
to
know
what
priorities
are
that
we
can
look
from,
and
so
I
wanted
to
ask,
because
if
you
need
1.8
million
for
the
30
officers.
From
my
understanding,
this
grant
was
like
we're
paying
25
percent
the
first
year
50
and
then
100.
Is
that
how
that
or
75
I'm.
B
But
there's
not
including
vehicle
and
other
expenses
with
that
is
that
correct,
yeah.
U
So
the
first
year
of
the
grant
is
where
the
the
contribution
from
the
federal
government
is
the
highest
okay,
but
at
What
proportion
I'd
have
to
research.
For
you.
P
Yeah
yeah
I'd
like
to
know
the
proportion
and
then
the
other
thing
you
brought
up
here
the
vehicle
chart
when
I
added
them
up
and
I
did
it
multiple
times.
I
got
1362
vehicles
and
we
have
984
officers
so.
H
U
P
Okay,
because
I
public
just
needs
to
know
that,
but
the
thing
I
would
really
love,
because
this
was
fabulously.
Detailed
and
I.
I
would
really
love
this
from
every
department
for
their
one
to
five
year.
What
they
really
really
would
love
to
focus
on
and
I
like
how
you
organized
it.
What
I
would
really
love
is
for
me,
I'm,
more
of
a
calendar
person,
so
I
would
love
to
have
seen
a
timeline
of
this
is
what
we
would
like
to
focus
on
this
year.
D
P
Would
be,
it
would
be
great
to
know
what
year
you
wish
to
focus
on
each
thing
when,
like
you
know,
you'd
like
to
get
this
online
in
2024,
but
you
know
this
is
for
2025,
and
so
that's
for
me
is
more
difficult.
So
I
was
I'm,
I'm,
hoping
that
we
could
get
that.
U
No
I
know
exactly
what
you're
saying
and
I'm
gonna
interrupt,
but
that
could
change.
So
that's
why
we
yearly
have
our
yearly
strategic
meetings
and
then
anything
that
we
would
prioritize
that
year
in
this
Five-Year
Plan
that
isn't
already
budgeted,
but
then
we
wouldn't
send
that
request
for
a
budget
increase
request
that
year.
So
what
we
did
this
year
is
we
analyzed
what
was
most
important
to
us
and
did
that
this
year,
so
things
that
weren't
in
here
that
you
know
we're
projecting
whether
it's
you
know
our
behavioral
health
or
our
mental
health
plan.
U
That
would
be
something
that
if
we
couldn't
budget
ourselves
and
we
would
expand
on,
then
that
would
be
year
two
three
or
four
every
year
we
would
re-prioritize
it
so
to
say
now
that
we
want
to
do
this
year.
Three
may
not
be
fair,
because
a
year
from
now
it
might
be
year,
two
that's
more
appropriate
or
year,
five,
that's
more
appropriate.
So
every
year
we
readjust
and
re-prioritize.
What's
in
our
vision,
oh.
P
Absolutely
and
I
would
expect
that
to
change
every
year,
but
it
would
be
helpful
to
have
your
Five-Year
Plan
because
sort
of
like
we
do
with
a
capital
Improvement
project
where
we
put
our
goals
there,
but
then,
the
next
year,
when
we
have
five
years,
those
goals,
change
and
the
money
moves
around,
and
so
for
me
again
as
we're
looking
at
areas,
we
are
definitely
going
to
be
cutting
I
would
love
to
see
that
to
see
where
your
priorities
lie,
to
see
to
help
figure
out
where
you
know
things
that
we'll
be
able
to
move
to
Future
budgets,
because
that's
that
is
simply
the
reality
of
the
situation
and
that
we
are
in
so
I
would
greatly
appreciate
that.
P
B
Again,
thank
you
very
much.
Chief
I
know
we
won't
have
this
discussion
until
until
Wednesday,
but
cutting
from
Public
Safety.
It's
a
very
big
budget.
It's
going
to
be
a
very
lengthy
discussion,
but
that's
that's
not
even
on
my
list
so
we'll
discuss
that
Wednesday.
We
have
a
big
budget
to
look
at
so
councilman
Viera.
I
Yeah,
just
really
quick,
because
I
I
councilman
Clinton
answered
my
question,
which
I
would
have
gone,
which
would
have
made
some
remarks
on
and
I
do
want
to
say
so,
essentially
that
millage
right
would
have
paid
for
the
spending
you're
talking
about
now
we
didn't
pass
any
of
the
millage
increase.
So
what
we're
looking
when
we
say
we
have
to
cut
we're
cutting
to
keep
the
increased
spending
that
was
proposed
or
a
lot
of
it
that
was
proposed
in
the
mayor's
budget.
I
Without
the
additional
Revenue
and
and
again
like
I,
said
Tuesday
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
that,
helping
out
because
I
I
we
we
got
to
find
Solutions
but
I'm.
Just
saying
is
that's
a
really
big
deal
when
you
want
to
keep
housing,
keep
please
keep
fire
and
that's
going
to
be
increased
spending.
I
You
know
my
my
thought
with
having
a
very
small,
tiny
millage
increase
of
of
0.3
was
so
that
we
could
take
care
of
that.
So
we
could
take
the
increase
of
Public
Safety
off
the
table,
and
then
we
could
talk
about
budget
cuts
for
those
human.
What
you
call
the
social
welfare
needs,
the
housing
things
like
that
Etc,
because
now
we
find
ourselves
in
a
situation
where
we're
going
to
have
to
look
for
budget
cuts
for
police,
for
the
increased
spending
and
fire
and
mind
you
as
we'll
talk
about
with
fire.
I
The
budget
even
include
a
fire
station,
so
there's
a
whole
lot
of
things.
We're
going
to
have
to
look
for
a
lot
of
competing
interests
and
it
it's
and
again
I
I
want
to
be
a
part
of
of
helping
that
go
forward,
because
these
are
things
that
all
seven
of
us
support
a
hundred
and
ten
percent.
Nobody
here
is
against
the
police.
Nobody
hears
against
fire.
Anything
of
that
nature.
I
I
I
I
just
thought
that
by
taking
that
somewhat
whatever
you
restrained
approach,
as
opposed
to
prohibitive
on
the
millage
that
we
could
make
sure
that
Public
Safety
was
taken
care
of
and
whatnot
and
and
I
have
gotten.
You
know
like
everybody,
it
is
what
it
is.
Some
emails
blasting
me
on
it
and
guess
what
I
I
stand
by
what
I
tried
to
do,
because
I
thought
it
was
the
right
thing
to
do
and
and
what
not
but
but
again
I'm
part
of
the
solution.
I
J
Good
morning,
Council
I'm,
sorry
good
afternoon,
Council
Barbara
Tripp
here,
fire
chief
for
temple,
Fire
Rescue,
I,
just
want
to
address
item
number
1772
and
basically
states
that
temp
fire
rescue
provided
action
plan
to
address
the
fire
deficit
as
part
of
a
public
safety
master
plan.
Further
that
said,
plan
include
various
potential
Revenue
sources,
Securities
deficits,
including
funding
for
additional
stations,
Manpower
equipment,
mental
health
support,
utilizing,
update,
And
Timely
data
points,
so
I
hope
in
this
presentation,
I'll
be
able
to
address
this.
J
Of
course,
it's
dated
as
forced
to
20
to
25
cents.
I've
been
in
this
position.
We've
been
working
on
kind
of
like
a
strategic
plan
for
top
of
our
rescue.
A
lot
of
information
has
been
addressed.
You
know
through
previous
City
Council
meetings
and
I
apologize
for
anything
repeat,
but
I
know
we
have
some
new
city
council
members,
so
some
of
this
stuff
might
be
repetitious,
but
I
apologize
for
that.
J
H
J
Ma'am
all
right,
so
once
again
we
talked
about
our
mission
and
vision.
Of
course,
the
men
and
women
Temple
rescue
strive
to
uphold
the
mission
and
vision.
You
know
every
day
and
respond
to
calls
for
services
and
of
course,
we
definitely
want
to
provide
those
the
community
with
the
updated
technology
to
be
able
to
provide
the
service
that
the
community
has
called
for.
J
J
And
basically,
these
core
values
are
the
pillars
of
which
Tampa
Fire
Rescue
stands
on
to
deliver
that
mission
and
vision
to
the
community.
So
this
is
what
we
live
by
as
far
as
our
core
values
and
just
to
let
you
know
over
the
last
two
years.
This
is
Administration
that
has
been
persevering
through
many
challenges
where
some
of
the
things
we
had
to
start
from
the
bottom,
you
know,
and
we
definitely
overcame
a
lot
of
obstacles
to
the
right
to
direct
Tampa,
Fire
Rescue
in
the
right
directions.
J
J
So
with
that
said,
as
the
motion
had
requested
to
identify
an
action
plan
to
address
some
of
the
fire
deficits,
you
know
here
are
some
of
the
deficits,
the
key
objectives
that
we're
looking
to
kind
of
identify
to
help
with
clearing
up
some
of
the
deficit.
J
We've
also
received
a
assistance
of
firefighter
grant
for
additional
firefighters,
which
is
a
safe
program,
and
we
also
receive
a
system
firefighter
grant
for
power
load
structures
which
that
help
prevent
bike
injuries
and
right
now,
all
of
our
front
lines
units
have
these
power
loads
in
them
that
are
dated
from
2016
to
present
so
part
of
this
health
and
fitness
Fitness
physical
health
of
the
firefighters
also
deals
with
the
regional
CIS
team.
What
happens
with
this
CIS
team,
which
is
a
critical
incident?
Stress
management
team,
which
is
a
regional
team?
J
It
helped
the
escalate
traumatic
incidents
and
exposures
to
Firefighters,
while
on
duty,
temporary
rescues
in
the
process
of
developing
a
peer
support.
Mental
team
that
would
court
that
would
be
coordinated
by
the
current
TFR
chaplain
to
assist
with
First
Responders
on
and
off
duties
for
challenges.
They
may
face
temporary
risk.
You
also
have
a
Peer
Fitness
team
to
assist
with
First
Responders
that
need
physical
assistance
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
partner
with
the
local
entities
like
The
Franciscan
Center.
J
So
TFR
has
also
identified
a
few
training
and
educational
deficit
that
will
have
an
impact
on
revenue
for
temple.
Fire
Rescue
temple,
Fire
Rescue,
must
remain
in
compliance
with
local
state
and
federal
requirements,
ban
state
of
being
a
state
approved
training
facility
for
multiple
reasons.
So
first
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone.
Our
state
thank
Council
for
approving
the
recent
New
Burn
training
facility
and
basically
that
burn
facility,
as
well
as
the
training
grounds,
to
actually
produce
Revenue.
As
we
continue
to
partner
with
the
local
schools.
We
also
train
individuals
to
become
firefighters.
J
In
the
last
two
years,
CFR
has
increased
its
Community
engagement
and
with
that
we've
actually
had
some
positive
initiative
has
allowed
Tampa
Fire
Rescue
to
receive
close
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
donations
for
equipment.
You
know
we
receive
extrication
equipment
that
extrication
equipment
is
used
on
a
lot
of
the
apparatuses
out
in
the
field
to
assist
with
extricating
individuals
from
Vehicles
when
needed.
That's
trapped.
We
also
receive
donations
for
supplies,
and
we
have
just
started
out
eighth
cert
program,
which
is
the
community
Emergency
Response
Team,
and
we've
also
received
grants
and
donation
from
that.
J
Once
again,
as
we
talk
about
technology,
as
we
know,
our
CAD
system
is
actually
almost
28
years
old.
We
definitely
don't
have
an
academy,
so
computer
Aid
dispatch
system,
I
apologies.
J
We
also
have
the
automated
vehicle
locator,
which
is
not
operating
so
basically,
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
get
some
data
driven
platform
to
assist
with
making
some
measurable
decisions
for
the
community
by
adding
more
resources,
and
also
this
data-driven
technology
will
also
assist
us
with
the
unit
Organization
for
the
men
and
women
of
Tampa
Fire
Rescue
to
decrease
the
amount
of
calls
that
they're
running.
So
the
process
right
now
for
obtaining
this
CAD
is
still
ongoing.
J
So
as
we
talk
about
strategies
for
future
growth
over
the
last
two
years,
the
administration
have
been
meeting
having
monthly
meetings
with
multiple
internal
departments
to
discuss
the
future
of
TFR
facilities
as
far
as
equipment.
So,
basically
we
know
these
stations
was
built
many
years
ago
and
of
course,
at
the
time
they
was
built
for
a
fire
truck
and
not
EMS
services
or
Emergency.
Medical
Services
was
not
of
concern,
which
now
that's
primary
of
the
primary
goal
of
our
calls
and
dispatches.
J
J
That
has
been
one
of
the
problems
that
we've
run
into
with
the
manufacturers
with
supply
chain
demand
not
being
available
within
those
internal
departments,
meaning
we've
worked
with
City
of
Tampa
facilities,
City
of
Tampa
maintenance
department,
TFR
maintenance,
department
of
our
facility,
Department
contract
admin,
Parts
real
estate
and
technology
and
Innovation
to
come
up
with
some
Avenues
of
being
able
to
identify
the
technology
that
we
need
in
order
to
make
those
measurable
decisions
for
the
community.
J
So,
basically,
currently,
as
far
as
the
revenue
of
these
it's
been
coming
from
the
general
fund
of
how
we
purchase
this
CAD
system
and
that's
when
we're
looking
to
get
approved.
J
So
this
is
just
a
short
chart
of
our
SWOT
analysis.
Talking
about
our
strength,
so
one
of
our
goodest
strengths
is
that
we're
definitely
have
740
Swan
personnel
and
we're
allotted
for
769.
We
just
hired
individuals
last
month
and
looking
to
hire
some
more
individuals,
hoping
to
Max
that
out
to
about
25
in
December.
J
You
know
the
men
and
women
are
definitely
dedicated
employees
who
come
in
every
day
and
work
hard
to
make
sure
they
provide
the
services
to
the
city
of
Tampa
and,
as
I
talked
about
the
strength
as
horse
740.
Based
on
the
last
information
I
provided
the
ratio
of
firefighters
to
the
citizen,
we
averages
on
400
000
citizen,
which
would
be
about
720
firefighters.
J
One
of
the
weakness
we
have,
or
one
of
many
is,
of
course,
our
outdated
equipment.
J
This
outdated
equipment
deals
with
a
lot
of
the
data
system
in
order
for
us
to
make
effective,
accurate
response
to
calls
to
be
able
to
determine
the
additional
resources
we
need,
including
additional
stations,
including
equipment,
including
Personnel.
So
that
is
one
of
our
weakness
that
we're
definitely
working
on
the
maintenance.
Shop
has
outgrown
its
location,
meaning
it
was
built
in
1958
and
at
the
time
I
believe
we
only
had
like
15
stations.
Now
we
are
actually
quadrupled
at
with
multiple
close
to
100
engines,
as
well
as
rescue
cars
for
the
maintenance
jobs.
J
So
we
definitely
need
to
get
that
relocated,
so
they
will
be
in
a
safe
environment.
That's
one
of
the
major
weakness
that
we
have
and,
of
course,
opportunity
deals
with
training,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
opportunities
that
we
just
implemented
a
new
learning
management
system,
which
will
also
assist
us
with
obtaining
the
iso
rating
of
one
currently
well
ISO
of
two.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
that,
and
one
of
the
biggest
threats
been
first
responder,
we
always
know,
is
going
to
be
the
health
and
wellness,
as
well
as
the
safety
and
as
I
stated.
J
J
So
this
actually
talks
about
the
operating
budget
for
temple
for
our
rescue
and
if
we
talk
about
certain
revenues,
some
of
the
revenues
that
we
do
receive,
of
course,
is
the
Federal
grant
the
safer
Grant
we've
also
received
home
security,
Grants
State
local
other
revenues
deals
with
our
billing,
for
when
we
transport
the
pemt,
which
is
the
the
public
emergency
medical
transport,
Managed
Care
option.
We
also
have
off-duty,
where
we
build
the
clients
for
providing
the
medical
services
at
different
special
events.
J
We
also
have
the
MacDill
contract,
as
well
as
the
fees
for
inspections,
false
alarms
and,
of
course,
the
contract
with
Pebble
Creek.
So
these
are
just
some
of
the
revenues
that
we
receive.
Basically,
we
also
receive
from
the
CIT
tax
for
the
last
couple
years,
who
received
anywhere
between
one
to
two
million
dollars
for
vehicles.
Of
course,
this
year
has
been
increased,
but
I
want
to
say
that
was
in
2021
and
that
came
from
the
CIT
tax.
J
So
as
we
talk
about
Capital
Improvement
and
for
fiscal
year,
23
2
million
was
adopted
and
proposed
for
this
year's
CIP
project.
It's
actually
at
12.9
that
we
have
in
a
budget.
That's
because,
basically,
that
12.9
is
going
to
deal
with
station
six
in
station,
9
and
I
believe
it's
just
a
typo.
It
wouldn't
be
a
renovation
for
station
nine
because
of
the
condition
of
the
station,
but
over
the
next
five
years
we
have
absolutely
close
to
40
million
dollars
that
we've
been
asking
for.
J
J
So,
as
I
draw
this
conclusion,
you
know
temple
Fire
Rescue
has
been
around
for
120
years
and,
of
course,
we've
been
very
resilient.
The
men
and
women
you
know
is
committed
to
providing
the
service
to
the
Tampa
Bay
Community,
and
this
is
our
third,
a
third
five-year
reaccreditation
and
basically
is
because
that
we
are
definitely
an
elite
department.
J
So,
as
far
as
providing
resources
and
revenues
for
how
we're
going
to
continue
with
Templar
rescue,
we
just
got
to
continue
to
applying
for
the
grants
which
we
did
apply
for
the
afg
grant
assistant
firefighter
grant
for
30
additional
firefighters,
we're
going
to
continue
to
review
our
current
fees
that
we
charge
and
look
for
possibility
if
there
can
be
an
increase.
Of
course,
we
need
to
increase
the
funds
from
the
general
funds
and
continue
to
partner
with
the
state
and
local
entities
for
assistance.
U
B
I
You
Mr,
chair
and
and
chief
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
We
really
appreciate
you.
You've
been
I,
know
on
the
job
now
for
some
time,
but
you
inherited
a
lot
of
challenges
and
we
appreciate
all
the
work
that
you've
done
to
try
to
get
stuff
done,
so
we
appreciated
110.
I
So
I
also
wanted
to
ask
you
what
I
asked
Chief
burkhoff
so
I
know
in
the
budget
there
were
funds
for
TFR,
several
million
dollars
or
some
station
improvements
Etc
to
the
best
of
your
knowledge.
Those
are
funds
that
were
dependent
on
the
higher
millage
or
would
you
have
to
defer
to
Mr
Rogero
on
that
yeah.
J
The
only
reason
why
I
say
that
it's
because
I
know
what
I
had
put
in
for
but.
I
I,
don't
know
it's
all
broken
down,
I,
don't
know
the
numbers
sure
and
so
yeah
I
mean
so
so
you
know,
we've
been
pushing
for
a
public
safety
master
plan
for
a
while
and
whatnot
and
I
know
that
y'all
are
are
working
on
that
Etc
and
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
with
you
on
it.
You
know
the
the
the
the
the
the
big
issue
and
like
I,
like
I,
told
the
Administration.
I
What
I'm
looking
for
is
you
take
a
look
at
what
they
did
with
the
parks
master
plan,
something
of
that
nature.
I
know
that
takes
time
Etc
with
updated
numbers
Etc.
You
know
my
My
Hope
was
that
we
could
have
something
for
this
year's
budget,
and
then
we
could
talk
about
Revenue
to
to
you
know,
meet
those
needs
and
whatnot.
When
I
looked
at
the
TFR
budget,
you
know,
I
was
disappointed
that
there
weren't
any
specific
additional
fire
stations.
I
know
you
all
are
working
on.
I
That
I
saw
the
650
000
for
station
24,
I
believe
for
Fowler
and
whatnot.
You
know
my
my
challenge,
which
again
is
why
I
made
that
motion
for
the
0.3
was
that
what
y'all
wanted
right
doesn't
even
begin
to
address
fire
stations,
at
least
in
this
year's
budget.
So
at
least
we
can
get
that,
and
then
we
can
talk
about
some
some
different
things
in
the
future.
What.
I
I
For
that
correct,
okay,
what
and
that's
what
I'm
saying
and
that's
that
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
to
which
is
when
we
talk
about
what
we
have
to
do
Wednesday
night
is
when
we
say
we're
not
going
to
cut
Public
Safety
if
we're
talking
about
what
was
previously
allocated
sure,
but
then
there's
money
that
was
allocated
with
the
addition
of
the
budget
that
that
we
have
to
make
up
for
if
we
want
to
keep
that,
if
we
don't
find
it
and
again
and
we're
all
going
to
work
collaboratively,
because
all
of
us
here
support
Public
Safety,
but
so
what
I
want
to
do
at
the
end
of
this
is,
if
I
may
make
a
motion
where,
if
we're
not
going
to
have
additional
revenue
from
the
Millers
proposed
for
fire
stations,
let's
get
to
work
on
something
I
know:
councilman
Miranda
brought
up
again
the
issue
of
impact
fees.
I
Councilwoman.
Her
attack
championed
that
as
well
and
before
that
councilman
dingfelder
talked
about
that
as
well
and
championed
that
as
well.
That's
one
certain
thing,
but
I
want
to
talk
about
at
least
bonding
for
fire
station,
something
because
again
and
if
we
can't
do
it
through
present
Revenue,
let's
just
find
a
way
whether
it's
bonding,
whether
it's
a
millage,
whether
it's
impact
fees,
whether
we
say
26,
Hail
Marys
and
it
falls
from
the
sky
whatever
it
is,
we've
got
to
get
it
done
and
we're
all
on
that
same
page.
I
Obviously
so
I
do
want
to
make
a
motion
for
that
as
well.
I
have
a
question
for
you,
the
TFR.
Do
you
all
do
a
five-year
report.
I
J
I
D
J
To
like,
you
know,
start
from
the
bottom
and
you
know
try
to
figure
out
everything
that
was
going
on
what
was
done
prior
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
moving
forward
and
when
it
comes
to
building
fire
stations,
I'm
not
against
it,
and
then
when
I
say
afforder
against
it
or
whatever.
I.
Just
think.
We
need
to
just
put
the
resources
where
they
need
to
be
put.
You.
J
I
Yeah,
to
quote
Exodus,
you
can't
make
bricks
without
straw,
yes,
so
yeah
throughout
the
Book
of
Exodus,
so
I
I
do
want
a
motion
for
that
to
take
a
look
at
bonds
and
again
I'd
rather
not
do
that
I'll
be
honest
because
you
know
dead
and
and
long-term
payments
Etc.
But
if
that's
our
option,
you
know
for
me
when
it
comes
to
Public
Safety
I
joke
with
people
I'm
a
big
government,
guy
I
am
and
I
make.
I
No
apologies
for
that,
because
if
that
was
my
kid,
if
that
was
my
wife,
if
that
was
my
mom
any
of
us,
we
would
want
that
to
get
done
as
much
as
possible
and
whatever
it
costs.
Let's
get
it
done.
So
if
we
have
to
look
at
bonds,
if
that's
the
option
I'm
all
for
that,
so
I'll
be
looking
at
that
as
well
and
and
revenue
sources
at
the
end
of
this,
if
I
may,
no,
but
that's
it
and
and
the
bell's
telling
me
to
shut
up.
Thank
you.
B
Councilman
Vera
before
I
go
to
councilman
Clendenin
bonds
for
Building
A,
Fire
Station,
okay,
councilman
Clendenin
councilwoman,
her
Tech
councilwoman
Henderson.
A
And
then
I'll
have
a
question
for
actually
Mr
Perry.
If
I
saw
him
back
there,
maybe
he
could
answer
for
that
about
that
question.
A
A
A
Can
you
make
sure
you
email
us
that
figure
so
that
we
know
what
the
what
to
be
able
to
to
be
able
to
meet
today's
needs
to
fix
the
fire
stations
that
have
to
be
fixed
today
at
the
to
get
them
up
to
just
the
bare
minimum
standard?
If
you
have
that
that'd
be
great,
if
you'd
email
us
all
that
figure,
because
we
got
to
find
that
money
somewhere
bonding
Mr
Perry,
wouldn't
we
already
bond
this
type
of
capital,
investment
for
fire
stations?
W
A
W
A
A
I
A
Sir
also
your
equipment
needs
I
know
you
have
a
couple
of
trucks
that
are
operating
on
Band-Aids
and
bubble.
A
So
we
know
where
to
find
that
because,
as
councilman
Vera
said
many
times,
we
support
Public
Safety.
We
support
our
police,
we
support
our
fire
and
we
want
to
do
what's
right
by
you
guys
now
for
the
ugly
side,
weaknesses,
opportunities
and
threats.
I
still
know-
and
this
is
this-
is
me
saying
the
baby's
ugly.
Oh
yeah.
Let
me
finish
this
thing
that
we
can
the
baby's
ugly
and
that's
the
LMR,
the
Labor
Management
relationship,
I,
think
the
weaknesses,
opportunity
threats.
You
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
there,
because
you
have.
A
You
have
a
a
very
engaged
Workforce
which
you
came
from.
You
know.
That's
the
interesting
thing
you
know:
I
came
from
Air
Traffic,
Control
background,
where
we
promoted
from
within
people
who
are
in
management,
we're
air
traffic
controllers,
we're
all
cut
out
of
the
same
piece
of
cloth
right,
so
I
think
there's
an
off
there's,
there's
weaknesses,
opportunities
and
threats,
because
we
need
to
have
a
really
solid
relationship
across
the
the
team
and
I
really
want
to
encourage.
A
You
and
I
want
to
also
encourage
754
over
the
next
12
months
to
find
a
path
that
you
guys
can
work
together
and
and
find
like
on
this
type
of
presentation.
To
be
able
to
you
know,
I
would
love
nothing
more
than
to
see
you
guys
collaboratively
come
up
here
and
do
this
type
of
presentation
together
and
and
both
of
you
pitching
the
the
same
needs
and
requirements
for
the
Department.
I
mean
I.
A
Think
that's
when
the
when
the
citizens
of
the
city
of
Tampa
and
the
taxpayers
win
when
you
guys
are
on
the
same
side
and
you're
you're
pitching
with
the
same
voice.
So
you
know
because
you
wear
the
boss
hat,
you
know
the
ball.
Unfortunately,
the
burdens
I've
been
there.
I
know
the
burden
falls
on
you
because
you're,
the
one,
that's
you
know
you're
the
one
that
wears
that
hat.
A
So
I
really
want
to
encourage
you
to
do
everything
you
can
over
the
next
12
months
as
we
work
through
this
next,
but
this
budget,
which
is
going
to
be
brutal
and
ugly
to
do
whatever
you
can
to
to
to
work
so
that
maybe
next
year
you
guys
can
be
shoulder
to
shoulder
and
presenting
this
kind
of
information
together.
Thank
you.
P
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
this
presentation.
I
appreciate
the
weaknesses,
opportunities
and
threats
it's
hard
to
do,
but
I
appreciate
you
doing
that
and
I'm
just
gonna
candidly
say
the
presentation
from
the
police
and
the
presentation
from
fire
was
so
drastically
different.
They
need
new
cars,
you
all
need
fire
stations
and
preventative
health
equipment.
I
do
not
sow
those
two
on
par
at
all.
P
It's
not
that
I
don't
support
what
the
police
want,
but
the
need
for
me
is
is
very
clear
that
fire
stations
and
equipment
are
far
beyond
when
we
look
at
Public
Safety
as
a
whole.
Our
most
important
needs,
40
million
dollars
for
replacing
fire
stations,
is
less
money
than
we're
about
to
spend
on
the
East
Tampa
recreational
complex,
I
think
that's
absolutely
doable.
I
completely
agree
with
council
member
Vieira
completely
bondable,
because
those
as
we
found
some
of
our
fire
stations
are
100
years
old.
P
P
So
to
me,
these
priorities
are
just
a
much
higher
need
and
certainly
not
a
want
so
I
I,
greatly
appreciate
it.
I
also
am
thrilled
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
get
30
more
firefighters
and
EMT
without
a
dime
out
of
us
for
the
next
three
years,
as
we
try
to
dig
out
of
this
hole.
I
think
that's
very
important.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
all
say
yes
to
incredibly
easily,
and
that's
that's
really.
P
P
But
to
me
you
know
being
able
to
think
about
this
going
into
the
future
and
the
critical
need
and
the
Health
and
Welfare
of
the
people
we
that
that
work
for
the
city
is
really
Paramount
and
I
just
see
a
drastic
difference
in
those
two.
So
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
all.
N
Tea
trip
how
you
doing
today.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
presentation,
I
think
really.
A
couple
of
things
that
I
want
to
say
is
also
piggybacking
off
of
just
some
feedback
from
or
comments
from
councilman
councilwoman
hurtech,
with
even
vehicles
that
Dr
Chief
burkhaw
asked
for.
One
of
the
things
that
was
presented
a
while
ago
is
the
fact
that
when
vehicles
are
old,
it
costs
more
money
to
maintain
the
ones
that
are
falling
apart.
N
So
you
still
would
consider
that
a
high
priority
need,
because
you're
going
to
have
to
fix
the
ones
that
break
down
anyway,
to
keep
them
on
the
street.
So
just
that
point
and
like
Fair
Oaks
as
far
as
Fair
Oaks
is
concerned,
bonding
our
way
out
of
things
we
have
to
bond
our
way
out
of
inequity
and
racism
and
Fair
Oaks
Park
is
just
one
of
those
things.
N
I
just
want
to
say
that,
but
to
you
as
far
as
the
things
that
are
needed
in
terms
of
fire
rescue,
the
computer,
aided
dispatch
system,
I,
think
that
was
seven
million
dollars
correct.
It
was
close
to
you,
seven
million
dollars,
everything
that
you're
asking
for
even
the
equipment
to
keep
them
safe,
as
I've
listened
to
the
president
of
your
union.
Your
ask
is
not
asking
for
everything.
N
This
is
just
the
beginning
and
even
the
fire
stations
are
not
included
in
that,
and
so
it's
important
at
least
for
me
to
say
from
the
Deus
is
you
know
we
did
not?
The
council
did
not
get
the
four
votes
to
support
the
village
and
that's
so
unfortunate,
because
that's
why
we
have
to
have
these
conversations
now.
N
They've
created
this
problem
and
something's
going
to
have
to
get
cut,
but
it
won't
be
these
things
because
Public
Safety
is
our
number
one
priority
and
I
heard
from
constantly,
of
course,
because
the
president
of
the
Union
sends
tons
of
emails
just
like
your
citizens
saying
what
the
fire
rescue
needs
and
you're
saying
the
same
thing.
Your
job
is
just
to
prioritize,
and
so
that's
why
you're
not
saying
oh
yeah.
N
We
need
these
fire
stations
you're,
not
putting
them
at
the
top
you're
just
putting
them
and
saying
yes,
we
do
need
them,
but
there
are
other
priorities,
that's
what
I'm
hearing
and
that's
what
I'm
supporting
and
that's
already
provided
in
the
budget
that
you
presented.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
Thank.
B
B
X
Sir,
hey
good
afternoon,
Council
City
staff,
Nick
stacko,
president
of
the
Tampa
firefighters
Union.
How
much
time
do
I
have
five.
B
X
Thank
you
yes,
sir
first
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
administration,
the
fire
chief
and
the
chief
staff,
as
well
as
the
police
chief
on
their
presentation
of
this
public
safety
master
plan.
Four
years.
It's
been
four
or
five
years,
four
or
five
years
since
it's
been
asked
for
and
I
think
today
was
the
largest
presentation
we
saw
from
both
sides,
most
importantly
from
the
Fireside.
X
It
was
well
thought
out
with
laid
benchmarks
from
the
2020
through
the
2025
year
and
I
want
to
thank
Chief
Tripp
for
also
not
sugar
coating.
The
deficits
of
Public,
Safety
I
think
those
deficits
were
spelled
out
in
2021
in
the
March
budget,
Workshop
meeting
as
they've
been
spelled
out
by
the
fire
Union
over
and
over
and
over
again,
these
deficits
are
not
new.
X
for
construction
and
land,
and
we
should
be
having
the
ribbon
cutting
that's
11
million
dollars.
You
know
we're
talking
about
budget
and
cuts
and
and
where
this
money
is
gone
or
going
or
whichever,
but
that's
11
million
dollars
and
I
hear
a
hundred
thousands.
We
have
11
million
dollars
last
year
that
were
slated
for
a
fire
station.
The
administration,
the
fire
Administration
asked
for
the
land.
The
fire
Administration
was
working
with
the
city.
Why
are
we
not
seeing
any
further
progress
on
that
and
where
did
that?
X
11
million
dollars
go
if
it
is
stuck
in
fiscal
year,
23
of
what
the
powers
to
be
if
it
can
somehow
carry
over
to
fiscal
year?
24,
you
know,
I,
don't
know
the
ins
and
outs
of
that.
So
I
I
want
to
say
that
about
fire
station
number
24.
If
that's
the
correct
number
in
the
north,
New
New
Tampa
area,
Channel,
Side
Channelside
has
grown
so
much
and
I
feel
like
a
tape
recorder.
It's
the
same
thing
that
we've
been
repeating
for
many
many
years.
X
There
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
forward
thinking
in
a
fire
station
in
the
downtown
area.
I,
don't
need
to
bust
out
reports
and
show
papers.
You
all
get
the
emails.
I
know
you
do
station.
One
was
the
busiest
station
32
times
the
tones
go
off,
I
know
because
I'm
at
station
one
almost
every
day
at
employee
relations,
hearings
and
I,
hear
the
buzzer
go
off
in
the
middle
of
every
hearing
32
times
on
average
the
buzzer
goes
off
downtown
to
station
one.
We
want
to
talk
about
Health
and
Wellness.
X
You
sit
in
the
house
where
the
Bell
goes
off
32
times
a
day
when
there's
24
hours
in
a
day.
That's
how
we
can
improve
health
and
wellness.
You
can
try
to
fill
these
stations
up
as
much
as
you
want,
but
they're
already
full.
As
Chief
trip
laid
out
perfectly
said.
Well
said
we
were
the
Tampa
Fire
Department
we're
now
a
Tampa
Fire
Rescue
we've
introduced
a
Fire
EMS
based
system
into
stations
that
we're
used
to
having
horse
and
carriages.
X
X
Now
we've
got
to
make
up
for
it
and
I'm
not
going
to
use
the
phrase
continuing
to
Kick
the
Can
down
the
road,
because
that's
essentially
what
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
be
doing.
This
is
Tampa
Florida.
This
is
not
Bartow.
I
was
just
in
Pigeon
Forge
Tennessee.
They
have
a
heavy
rescue,
that's
staffed.
X
X
The
heavy
rescue
is
the
9-1-1
of
the
9-1-1.
When
the
firefighters
need
help,
they
call
the
heavy
and
I
can
hear
those
guys
clapping
now
at
station,
one.
That
truck
has
no
people
on
it.
How
do
we
not
have
people
on
a
heavy
rescue?
We
need
people.
We
currently
have
27
vacancies
from
the
allotted
number
that
we
have
that's
safer,
Grant,
that's
going
to
add,
30.
we're
going
to
potentially
looking
at
60
vacancies
as
we
go
into
the
beginning
of
fiscal
year,
24
calendar.
X
So
we
need
to
look
at
other
avenues
than
just
continuing
to
stay
the
same.
We
need.
We
need
to
grow
and
grow
stations,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
put
any
more
vehicles
in
these
stations.
I
talked
to
some
of
you
about
hurricanes.
What
are
we
doing?
Hurricanes?
We
combine
everybody
into
a
station.
We
bring
in
two
shifts
in
during
opcon,
and
we
combine
tpd.
We
combine
Tico
water
department
and
what
do
we
all
do?
X
Last
time
we
were
there,
the
power
went
out
and
we
had
to
run
an
extension
cords
from
January
outside
just
to
make
sure
that
the
food
was
cold
or
hot.
We
wanted
to
go
eat
it
for
the
three
days
we
were
there,
but
those
are
the
things
that
we
need
to
plan
for
is
Tampa
and
as
emergency
managers
and
as
the
city
continues
to
grow.
X
What
it
appears
to
us
where
we're
at
on
the
docket
of
this
body
is
that
we're
here
at
four
o'clock.
Having
this
conversation,
these
staff
officers,
these
Chief
officers
all
day
they've,
been
waiting,
they've
got
departments
to
run.
We've
waited
this
long
in
the
day
to
be
able
to
present
our
our
needs
and
our
wants.
X
The
second
set
of
bunker
gear
I
applaud
a
chief
Tripp
and
her
staff
for
including
that
in
the
PowerPoint
that
was
a
union
negotiated
item
in
2022
contract
Seasons
that
every
sworn
firefighter
will
be
provided
with
a
second
set
of
bunker
gear.
For
the
life
of
this
agreement,
we're
a
year
into
the
contract,
we
haven't
seen
a
purchase
of
bunker
gear
of
second
set,
but
for
your
union
people,
that's
a
contracted
item.
That's
750
sets
of
bunker
gear
that
need
to
be
purchased
in
the
next
two
years.
X
X
X
All
of
these
deficits
have
been
spelled
out.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
constant
rewind
replay
from
2021..
What
funding
sources
are
we
going
to
use
to
move
forward?
I
thank
Chief
Tripp
for
meeting
with
the
Union
on
August
14th
and
August
18th.
We
talked
about
some
funding
sources,
but
we
need
a
designated
funding
source
for
Public
Safety,
specifically
fire.
We
don't
have
an
Enterprise
fund,
our
inspections,
our
cart
fees,
our
special
events,
fees,
our
special
events,
fees,
our
hourly
wages,
essentially
make
money
revenue
for
the
city.
X
It's
it's
cost
that
the
vendor
has
to
pay
for
our
services.
But
if
our
fees
have
been
the
same
since
1978,
then
yeah
we
need
to
get
with
the
times,
but
looking
for
designated
funding
sources,
I
appreciate
the
bonding
I
leave
those
to
The
Experts,
whether
it's
you
know,
I
applaud
councilman
Vieira.
For
wanting
to
at
least
keep
somewhat
of
the
millage
to
to
to
designate
it
as
a
fire
tax,
I
heard
some
of
the
city
staff,
City
legal
say
it
can
be
a
designated
or
earmarked
for
fire
attacks.
I
know
Pasco
County
does
it.
X
We
need
a
designated
funding
source.
We
cannot
go
another
year
with
potential
cuts,
I
mean
the
chief
spelled
it
out
a
couple
years
and
and
thankful
that
the
chief
is
actually
saying
yeah
we're
behind.
That
takes
a
lot
for
a
chief
to
say
that
and
we're
behind
and
the
fire
Union
support
and
the
chief
all
that.
But
what
we
need
is
we
need
the
council
support
to
not
cut
our
budget
and
find
designated
funding
sources.
X
We
can't
continue
to
keep
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
and
we
need
to
improve
these
stations
and
improve
the
working
conditions
of
these
employees
and
I
know.
I
got
a
minute
left
I
appreciate
it.
10
minutes
that
you
gave
me,
you
know:
I
forgot
something
I'll
remember
later,
but
no,
if
you
got
any
questions,
do.
I
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr,
chair
and
and
Nick
I
wanted
to
thank
you
and
all
you,
the
folks
who
are
here
today.
You
know
when
I
think
about
what
a
union
should
do
and
I
think
we
have
three
union
members
here.
I
That's
what
I'm
saying
yeah
three
you're
one
of
the
three
yeah
union
members
and
and
so
I've
I've,
never
been
in
a
union
myself,
but
you're
you're
number
one
supposed
to
protect
the
interests
of
the
workers
and
and
their
welfare,
but
also
help
them
in
the
work
that
they
do
and
and
you're
obviously
doing
that,
because
you
have
such
a
passion
for
public
safety
and
I
and
I.
Thank
you
for
that
110.
So
our
the
job
before
us
and
that's
why
I'm
bringing
up
bonding,
is
really
big.
I
So
when
councilwoman
Henderson
just
said
I'm
not
cutting
anything
from
Public
Safety,
the
the
statement
should
be
when
that
she
refuses
to
cut
anything
and
I.
Don't
want
to
speak
on
your
behalf
when
I'm
saying
how
I
understand
it.
I
Yes,
ma'am
I'm
not
willing
to
cut
anything
from
the
increase
that
was
dependent
on
the
millage,
so
in
other
words,
by
virtue
of
getting
rid
of
the
the
millage,
even
the
the
smaller
amount
sought
for
for
Public
Safety
right
we're
we're
having
to
look
at
other
Cuts
in
other
areas
for
this,
as
well
as
other
areas
again,
a
big
challenge
that
we
have
and
that's
why
I
bring
up
bonding,
which
is
to
say,
look,
let's
take
care
of
I,
don't
care
how
it's
done.
I
Let's
just
get
it
done
and
that's
why
I
put
myself
on
the
line
politically
for
that,
because
I'm
willing
to
do
it
I'm
willing
to
do
it,
because
it's
it's
an
important
issue,
so
I'll
be
looking
at
that,
as
well
as
the
the
dedicated
funding
issue,
but
but
again,
I
appreciate
y'all's
advocacy
since
I've
been
here
in
city
council
I've
worked
with
Steve
Suarez
who's,
a
great
guy
Wild
Man,
David,
Lee,
Roth,
Joe,
Greco
God
bless
him
great
guy
and
and
and
now
oh
and
Andrew
and
Andrew
Carter.
I
And
now
you
and
all
of
you
all
do
a
great,
a
great
job
and
and
I'm
glad
to
see
by
the
way
that
there's
the
the
there's
something
I,
don't
want
to
say
something
building,
because
it's
already
there,
but
there's
a
lot
of
eye
to
eye
with
management
and
labor
right
now
as
I
see
it
because
there
is
an
admission
deficits,
I,
don't
think
anybody
denies
it
it's
just
how
we're
going
to
take
care
of
it,
and
my
view
is
like
I
said:
if
it's
bonding,
let's
do
bonding
if
it's
12,
Hail,
Mary's
and
12
of
our
fathers.
I
B
I
go
to
the
other
council
members.
I
just
had
a
thought.
You
know
we
talked
about
a
public
safety
impact
fee
which
was
brought
up
by
councilman,
Miranda
and
and
other
council
members
in
Viera,
which
I
totally
support
and
talking
about
a
dedicated
funding
source.
If
this
is
even
possible
to
do,
we
send
out
utility
bills
every
month
for
water
whatnot.
B
Are
we
legally
allowed
to
add-
let's
say
a
dollar
a
month,
two
dollars
a
month
to
that
that
would
go
to
Public
Safety.
Could
we
do
that
via
the
utility
bill,
or
is
that
just
a
total
Pie
in
the
Sky
idea?
That's
just
an
idea
that
I
had
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
that?
B
Where
it's
not
a
property
tax,
you
know
it'd
be
a
fee,
but
it
would
go
to
and
I
know
you
know
police
and
fire
through
the
county
to
the
you
know
they
get
stuff,
but
this
specifically
going
to
the
revenue
that
we
can
collect
monthly.
That
would
clearly
add
up
Mr,
Shelby
I
know
it's
a
it's
a
CFO
question.
It.
K
Is
a
CFO
question,
I
do
know
and
it's
been
referenced
that
that
Florida
Statutes
does
allow
for
a
fire
fee
and
and
also
there
are
other
ways
you
can
do
it,
but
you're
raising
an
issue
that
I
hadn't
contemplated,
which
is
adding
it
to
a
utility
bill
and
I.
Guess,
that's
a
CFO
question
or
that's
a
legal
question.
Mr
Massey.
B
And
the
reason
the
reason
I
ask
you
know
on
a
utility
bill,
because
if
it's
not
a
lump
sum
as
something
would
be
on
a
property
tax
bill,
you
know,
as
you
get
your
trim
notice
at
the
end
of
the
year,
which
is
a
bigger
impact.
If
somebody
sees
a
dollar
two
dollars
three
dollars
whatever
it
is,
that
would
go
to
a
fire
fund.
If
State
Statute
allows
that
the
utility
bill
is
something
that
I'm
thinking
of
where
it
makes
it
less
impactful
and
easier
on
the
consumer.
When.
I
B
Saying
a
dollar
increase
or
two
dollar
increase,
but
it's
going
strictly
to
when
we're
talking
about
a
dedicated
funding
source
I'd
like
to
know,
if
some,
if
that's
something
that
we
can
do,
because
when
you
talk
about
hundreds
of
thousands
of
utility
customers
each
month
and
it's
let's
say
it's
a
dollar,
it's
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars.
Let's
say
it's:
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
month
at
the
end
of
the
year
two
times:
twelve,
that's
20!
B
K
Where
I
was
going
to
as
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt,
but
that's
where
I
was
going
ahead,
that
if
you
have
that
funding
source
it
has
to
be
a
recurring
funding,
saw
because
the
need
is
today
not
something
that,
on
a
monthly
basis,
will
accumulate
it.
But
if
you
want
to
do
that,
it
has
to
be
something
that
can
actually
be
in
a
position
of
able
to
be
bonded
as
a
recurring
Revenue
source.
And
that's
that's
another
question.
B
Because
if
it's
recurring,
you
know
the
bank,
the
the
the
the
who
you
know.
What
who
gives
the
money
sees
that
you
have.
The
city
has
the
income
to
pay
that
back
or
fund
whatever
use
towards
matching
X,
but
it
can
be
if
it
has
to
be
a
fire
fund,
as
you
say,
per
state
statute
again
question
for
the
CFO,
and
if
we
can
do
that,
you
know
we
see
how
gas
prices
fluctuate,
it
could
be
four
dollars
and
fifty
cents
a
gallon.
B
B
D
Y
B
Was
thinking
about
it
at
lunch
and
I'm
going?
How
can
we
be
creative
and
how
can
we
generate
money?
Beyond?
Looking
at
you
know,
we
talked
about
increasing
fee.
We
haven't
looked
at
fees,
that's
another
thing,
not
targeting
Parks
and
Rec.
I'm.
Talking
about
everything
that
you
mentioned
warrant
does
change
when
someone
pulls
a
permit.
How
many
permits
do
we
issue
a
day?
B
That's
another
thing
not
talking
about
fire,
but
you
know
at
lunch:
I'm,
brainstorming
how
we
get
to
where
we
need
to
be
without
that
millage
and
how
we
can
be
make
we've
been
making
meaningful
change
because
you
talk
about
dedicated
funding
source
when
we
put
money
in
the
general
into
General
Revenue
that
money
can
be
moved
around
I
want
something
like
you
have
an
Enterprise
phone
which
we
can't
touch
those
parking
and
whatnot.
Why
not
something
for
Public
Safety?
Why
not
something
specifically
for
fire
and
I?
B
A
Just
going
to
say
it
taxes,
the
taxes,
the
taxes,
the
tax
we
had
an
opportunity
and,
and
it
lost
on
those
days,
you
know
I'm,
I'm,
sorry
I,
you
know,
I
keep
seeing
all
these
dollar
figures
fly
before
my
eyes
and
I,
and
the
chief
spoke
about
the
the
cad
system:
seven
million
dollars
for
the
cat.
Can
you
talk
about
how
important
that
would
be
to
the
to
your
to
your
members
of
having
that
equipment
in
your
vehicles?.
A
X
Sure
so
the
lights
will
turn
on
in
the
station.
The
tones
will
go
off,
we
walk
over
to
a
printer
or
run
and
when
we
make
it
to
the
printer,
we
grab
the
paper.
And
then
we
read
the
paper
and
it'll.
Tell
you
the
type
of
alarm.
It
is
the
address
who
you're
going
with
and
a
box
number
you
then
go
in
to
the
vehicle.
X
X
A
A
Vehicle
we
can
track
UPS
trucks,
we
track
our
garbage
trucks,
but
we
can't
track
our
fire
trucks.
It's
just
it's
crazy
and
and
I
I
think
that's
what
I
want
to
emphasize
the
people
that
are
listening
today
when
we
talk
about
the
neat.
These
are
needs
of
the
city,
not
once
these
are
things
that
should
have
been
fixed
decades
ago
and
we're
sitting
here
in
2023
talking
about
basic
things
that
I
get
every
single
person.
A
That's
listening
here
today
has
an
ability
to
navigate
in
their
truck
and
have
an
electronic
means
to
communicate
in
their
truck
that
our
fire
department
does
not
have
I
mean
they
have
an
ability
to
get
to
the
grocery
store,
with
the
electronic
limit
that
our
fire
department
doesn't
have.
It's
just
insanates
me
that
we've
allowed
the
system
over
these
Decades
of
neglect
to
get
to
where
we
are
today,
something
you
brought
up
that
I
just
have
to
ask.
You
said
you
had
extension
cords
to
announce
it.
X
Do
have
generators
in
the
fire
installations
or
in
the
fire
facilities,
however,
as
you
can
imagine,
from
stations
being
built
in
58
and
in
the
70s,
these
generators
are
old,
I
believe
in
this
current
capital,
Improvement
and
I
would
refer
to
the
experts
that
there
is
some
generators
that
are
being
purchased
and
redone,
because
the
generators
at
that
time
were
bad,
but
I
believe
they
are
in
the
process
of
reworking
like
five
generators
or
so
okay.
A
You
know
and
I
I've
just
I've,
just
gotta
I've
just
got
because
I've
got
a
vent
for
a
second
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
Channel,
my
co-worker
over
here
in
my
venting
yeah.
Well,
I
haven't
yet
you
know,
so
we
were
up
here
a
couple
of
nights
ago
and
we
talked
about
this
budget
and
the
dire
consequences
that
the
Departments
are
in,
and
you
know
I've
gotten
the
same
type
of
emails
that
councilman
Vera
spoke
about
people
criticizing
decisions
about
what
the
positions
and
stance
we
took.
A
It's
because
clearly,
I
see
the
needs
of
the
city.
Clearly,
I
see
the
deficits
that
we're
in
I
see
the
Decades
of
neglect.
Somebody's
got
to
step
up
to
the
plate,
to
fix
it,
and
you
know
what
I
didn't
run
for
city
council,
the
first
time
to
worry
about
getting
reelected
the
second
time,
I'll
be
damned
if
I'm
going
to
be
somebody
that
sits
in
Washington
DC
worried
about
my
reelection
rather
than
the
good
of
the
people
that
they
represent
and
every
day
that
I
sit
on
this
Deus.
A
It
has
absolutely
nothing
to
do
with
me.
It's
about
the
people
in
the
city
of
Tampa
and
my
grandchild.
That's
going
to
grow
up
here
to
make
this
city
better.
So
when
we're
looking
at
this
and
we're
this
is
real
money
and
I,
don't
think
people
understand
we
signed
off
on
obligations
in
the
city
that
are
coming
due,
that
exceed
the
property
valuation
people
say:
oh,
we
can
find
the
money
because
we
have
increased
property
valuations.
Well,
guess
what
everybody
that's
already
been
taken!
A
It's
already
been
spoken,
for
there
is
no
excess
money
this
time,
so
every
single
dollar
you
heard
tonight
talking
about
fire.
Every
single
dollar
you
heard
tonight
talking
about
police
is
going
to
have
to
come
from
our
existing
skin
and
guess
what
that
skin
has
been
skin
since
the
2008
Great
Recession
we
haven't,
we
haven't
recovered
from
that
fully.
A
Yet
so,
there's
not
much
skin
left
on
this
beast
and
I'm
afraid
these
cuts
that
we're
going
to
have
to
entertain
next
Wednesday
I
hope
these
people
come
with
their
pencils
sharpened,
because
they've
got
a
they've
got
a
task
in
front
of
them
to
find
those
cuts
and
they're
gonna
have
to
look
at
the
people,
the
city
of
Tampa
and
say
you
know
what
I'm
sorry
I'm
sorry
we're
going
to
have
to
cut
this
program.
I'm!
Sorry
we're
going
to
have
to
cut
this
I'm.
A
R
I
was
going
to
talk
about
some
other
things
and
I
will,
but
you
know,
I
respect
the
the
differing
opinions
of
my
colleagues,
but
we
had
this
discussion
the
other
day
and
we
made
a
decision
and
it
seems
like
the
message
of
the
day
for
the
administration
which
they're
pushing
out
all
over
the
place
is
well.
This
is
City
council's
fault
and
internet
or
you
didn't
listen
to
us.
So
we're
going
to
punish
you,
you
know
who
they're
punishing
is
the
people
of
the
city.
R
This
is
this.
Is
a
situation
like
you
know
any
of
you
have
had
employees
before.
Imagine
your
employee
comes
to
you
and
says:
hey
I,
maxed
out
my
credit
card
and
I
bought
a
house.
That's
too
expensive
and
I
need
a
raise.
The
thing
you
say
to
them
is:
hey.
That's
a
personal
decision,
that's
not
that's!
Not
my
fault!
No
I
need
a
raise.
R
I
need
a
raise,
but
if
you
don't
give
me
a
raise
I'm,
just
not
going
to
show
up
at
work
or
I'm
going
to
show
up
at
work
and
not
do
anything
and
that's
the
attitude
that
we're
getting
from
the
administration.
Not
the
staff
at
the
top,
you
know
the
the
the
the
boss
here
is
the
people
of
the
city,
The
Plea,
the
people
of
the
city
clearly
said
they
don't
want
us
to
destroy
the
economy.
They
don't
want
us
to
push
thousands
of
people
out
of
their
homes.
We
have
a.
R
We
have
a
a
promise
to
the
people
to
protect
them
and
protect
them
from
overspending.
We're
not
in
this
situation,
because
City
Council
made
a
bad
decision,
despite
all
the
spin
on
TV
and
everything
we're
in
this
position,
because
this
Administration
wasted
millions
of
dollars,
they
they
put
in
debt
that
they
didn't
even
tell
city
council
about
until
the
last
minute
they
they
spent
way
too
much
money
on
too
many
projects.
R
The
last
Administration
did
the
same
thing
during
the
greatest
boom
in
American
history,
economic
boom
in
American
history,
last
Administration
spent
half
the
reserve
fund
which
we're
trying
to
replace.
Now
the
the
problem
is
overspending
and
spending
on
vanity
projects
or
pet
projects.
You
know
we,
the
last
Administration
built
a
12
million
dollar
Boathouse
that
could
have
how
many
fire
trucks
could
that
have
bought,
even
if
it's
only
five
or
six
that's
still
more
than
we
have
right
now,
but
we
built
a
Boathouse
that
competes
with
other
private
sector
venues
for
events.
R
R
Tvs
people
can
go
back
and
watch
it
if
you
re,
if
you
propose
raising
the
rate
I'm
going
to
vote
against
it
and
I'm
going
to
tell
everybody
I
know
in
the
community
to
not
support
it
because
we
don't
need
to.
You
need
to
stop
spending
so
much
money,
stop
wasting
all
the
money,
and
so
what
we're
doing
is
holding
this
administrative
Administration
accountable
and
next
week
is
going
to
be
tough.
R
People
the
community
said
not
that,
oh,
please,
don't
don't
raise
my
rate,
because
I
don't
want
to
pay
more
they're
saying
please
don't
let
me
get
kicked
out
of
my
house.
Seniors
are
crying
and
pleading
with
us
that
they
didn't
want
that
the
businesses
and
and
people
that
can
barely
scrape
by
said,
please
don't
destroy
our
economy.
That's
the
decision
we
made,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
do
is
we're
going
to
go
back
and
work
together
with
the
administration,
I
hope
to
figure
out.
What
can
we
do?
R
The
the
bad
decisions
of
the
past
are
in
the
past,
but
we
can
we
can
decide
what
we're
going
to
do
going
forward
and
there
are
Revenue
options
and
cost
options.
But
there
are
a
lot
of
really
really
bad
decisions
that
this
Council
tried
to
stop.
Let
me
ask
you
Mr
stalker.
We
talked
several
times
before
last
week.
Were
you
happy
with
the
with
what
was
covered
in
the
mill
increase?
Did
you
think
that
satisfied
the
problems
that
you
see
in
the
fire
department.
R
Was
everything
did
everything,
so
the
administration
is
going
out
telling
people
you
know
this?
We
would
have
repaired
your
roads
if
city
council
had
not
voted
against
this,
it's
not
true.
In
its
exaggeration,
we
we
have
billions
of
dollars
worth
of
Road
repair
that
we
have
to
fix.
We
have
lots
of
money
that
we
have
to
fix
in
fire
rescue
and
as
I
understood
it
from
you.
This
was
even
with
the
millage
increase.
It
was
only
going
to
put
a
small
Dentin
in
you
aren't
happy
with
with
it.
X
Absolutely
we
need
more
increased
Revenue
fund
resources,
but
this
millage
would
have
helped
in
our
opinion,
because
we've
been
having
the
same
issues
in
2021
without
the
millage.
So
obviously
something
is
being
done
at
this
table
or
in
these
Chambers
or
in
the
building
across
the
street
that
those
funds
aren't
being
allocated.
So.
R
Last
year
you
mentioned
the
new
fire
station,
which
my
colleague
council
member
Vieira,
advocated
for
for
a
long
time
and
I
think
Goods
did
also.
You
said
the
money
was
in
the
budget
city
council
supported
you.
As
far
as
I
can
remember,
city
council
has
always
supported
what
the
fire
Union
wanted.
It's.
R
R
We
need
the
administration
to
cooperate
and
I
hope
that
the
people
that
had
to
sit
here
all
day,
I
hope
they'll
also
go
meet
with
the
mayor
and
say
this
is
a
priority
and
I
don't
blame
it
on
the
fire
chief,
either
Fire
Chiefs
trying
to
be
an
advocate
for
all
of
us,
but
we
need
the
mayor
and
the
administration
to
take
this
seriously.
I
understand
that
people's
lives
are
at
stake
and
they
need
to
stop
wasting
money
on
things
like
Hannah
Avenue
and
put
the
money
in
saving
people's
lives.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
F
F
We
gave
away
that
every
time
there's
an
event
somewhere.
You
good
gentleman
from
the
fire
and
the
good
people.
Also,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
from
the
fire
ant
Police
Department
go
and
work.
Those
events
and
those
events
are
paid
solely
by
the
city
of
Tampa
taxpayers,
no
problem
with
you
you're
doing
a
job.
F
F
F
Every
time
there's
an
event
somewhere
I
will
speak
a
generality
somewhere
along
the
line.
You
don't
have
one
penny
invested,
but
yet
the
two
first
two
million
dollars
go
to
you.
How
do
you
like
that
deal?
You're
like
to
have
that
for
the
Fire
and
Police
Department?
We
don't
have
it
after
that.
Anything
over
that
is
split,
50
50.,
but
you
didn't
put
one
penny
in
it.
F
F
F
F
F
We
thought
it
was
a
dream
and
the
dream
is
here:
it's
great.
It's
wonderful!
All
those
things
now
come
at
the
end
and
that's
why
we're
at
work
it
doesn't
take
one
year
to
do
it.
Don't
it
takes
a
long
time
for
that.
Finally,
to
catch
up
with
you
and
guess
what
the
axes
have
crossed
and
therefore
we're
at
the
axis
like
this
of
what
to
do
or
not
to
do
so
we're
the
ones
that
are
paying
for.
F
In
fact,
it
was
Tampa
that
started
not
with
the
owners
but
with
a
prior
owner
by
giving
25
percent
of
the
parking
weight.
So
historically
it's
there.
Nobody
wants
to
talk
about
it.
The
facts
are
there,
prove
it
on
paper.
Now
you
get
zero
and
parking,
they
get
it
all.
What
a
what
a
wonderful
contract
wish!
You
had
that
if
we
had
just
a
different
contract,
we
wouldn't
be
sitting
here
today.
F
Talking
about
your
department
that
needs
anything
to
fix
the
problems
with
the
people
of
Tampa,
nor
the
police
department
with
crime
and
trying
to
keep
it
where
it's
manageable.
Crime
is
never
manageable.
Just
like
your
ambulance
is
going
somewhere
is
never
manageable
or
you're
late
30
seconds
and
that
person
passed
away.
F
But
not
only
do
you
have
an
equipment
problem.
You've
got
another
problem
called
traffic,
no
matter
what
you
used
to
do
before
10
years
ago,
15
years
ago.
You
can't
do
it
now.
If
you
had
a
motorcycle
get
into
where
you're
going,
because
the
traffic
is
unbelievable,
the
potholes
are
unbelievable.
The
synchronization
of
the
city
is
unbelievable.
F
The
things
that
you
need
are
unbelievable,
not
because
of
you,
because
the
necessity
that
we
put
ourselves
in
throughout
the
30-year
span
and
I
see
somebody
from
Finance
if
they
can,
if
they
think
that
I'm
saying
something
out
of
line,
please
correct
me.
So
all
those
things
are
there
that
we've
done.
F
What
happened
better?
Do
it
read
that
contract
I'm
not
against
them,
I'm
against
us,
but
what
we
did
to
ourselves.
We
were
self-inflicted
by
getting
something
that
you
thought
was
the
greatest
thing
in
the
world.
It's
great
people
come
in,
but
they
used
to
come
in
and
grows
and
stay
in
the
motels
and
hotels.
F
F
So
that's
what
happened?
One
little
line
a
few
words
so
I'm,
not
blaming
them
I'm
blaming
us
them
was
looking
out
for
their
benefits,
like
all
everyone
should
do
in
business
I'm,
not
blaming
them
I'm,
blaming
us
we're
doing
what
we
did
to
ourselves.
This
is
not
a
direct
100
cause
of
this,
but
I
guarantee
you
the
majority
cause
of
this
is
what
have
happened
and
will
continue
to
happen
because,
somewhere
in
their
minds,
no
one's
happy.
F
We
cannot
continue
to
do
business
the
way
we
do
business
and
I'm,
not
saying
there's
anything
crooked,
I'm,
not
saying
anything
wrong.
We
just
got
to
understand
what
you
got
elected
to
do:
you're
elected
to
serve
the
citizens,
and
if
somebody
else
wants
to
be
part
of
that
citizenship,
then
they
have
to
join
the
club
by
pain,
I,
don't
mind.
Putting
a
foreign
police
like
I,
said
the
other
day
to
the
council
members
to
the
ones
over
here
to
raise
the
money
and
the
new
people
coming
in.
F
They
have
to
pay
a
certain
fee,
I,
don't
mind
looking
at
the
rest
of
the
five
or
six
other
items
that
I
spoke
about,
but
that's
only
a
small
Band-Aid
to
help
you
and
your
men
and
women
that
work
with
you
to
have
a
fair
life
and
a
fair
family
operation
like
I've
had
with
mine
and
that's
all
I
want
I.
That's
all
you
want,
you
just
want
to
have
the
police
and
the
fire
nowhere
in
any
City.
F
F
F
Dead
dead,
the
only
thing
we
had
here
was
a
few
drunks,
that's
it
Tumbleweed
and
tumbleweed
and
I'm
not
going
to
use
the
other
word.
But
thank
you
for
reminding
me
those
things
you
had
so
now.
What
was
nothing
is
built
up.
We
have
to
double
your
exposure,
which
you
have
what
you
need
same
thing
with
the
police
department.
F
D
F
F
F
They
got
elected
to
serve,
but
I
think
between
the
eight.
All
of
us
have
the
same
objective:
to
meet
all
your
goals
or
the
best
of
the
goals
not
only
of
yours,
but
it's
a
police
department,
no
City
or
no
entity.
No
government
can
be
a
government
if
they
don't
have
a
strong,
Fire
and
Police
Department
I,
don't
care
who
you
are
and
what
you
say.
It
doesn't
happen
so
somehow
between
now
and
Wednesday,
we're
going
to
find
a
way.
We
don't
have
a
revenue
problem.
F
We
have
a
spending
problem
which
becomes
a
revenue
problem,
because
now
the
revenues
are
going
up,
but
not
as
quick
as
the
need
for
the
public,
because
you
had
an
acceleration
of
influx
of
a
lot
more,
and
these
are
the
things
you
do.
What
happens
if
you
go,
buy
a
2x4
when
everybody's
a
2x4,
but
it's
when
you
go
buy
gas,
but
there
is
no
gas,
the
price
of
gas,
because
what
Sky
High
that's
exactly
what
happened
in
the
home
business?
F
That's
exactly
what
we
have
a
crisis,
that's
exactly
what's
happening
because
more
people
come
in
to
buy
and
there's
no
more
housing,
there's
nothing
being
built
to
facilitate
all
the
needs
that
we
have
you're
chasing
yourself.
That's
not
you,
sir
I'm.
Talking
to
my
generality,
please
I'm
not
talking
to
you,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
we
got
to
understand
where
we're
at
and
some
people
can
get
rid
in
the
face
and
talk
all
they
want.
Don't
bother
me
at
all.
You
can
say
with
an
idiot
you
can
say:
I
did
the
wrong
thing.
F
P
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
answer
your
question
about
the
11
million
dollars
for
fire
station
number
24.
I.
That
was
when
I
talked
about
CIP
I,
had
two
separate
meetings
with
the
CFO
and
Chief
of
Staff
really
focused
on
most.
Both
of
them
were
two-hour
meetings.
Talking
about
the
budget
and
and
I
often
I
use
that
example,
because
it's
the
one
that's
we've
used
the
most,
the
CIT
okay.
So
what
happened?
Is
fire
station,
24
and
sure
enough?
I
got
a
I
got
a
page.
P
P
The
way
we
want
them
to
do
to
be
done
and
I
will
absolutely
take
responsibility
for
last
year's
budget
and
not
focusing
I
mean
I
was
I
was
four
months
on
Council
I
barely
knew
the
names
of
the
directors.
I'll
be
perfectly
honest,
but
if
I
had
known
then
what
I
know
now
I
would
have
done
things
quite
differently
and
you
know
that's
that's
the
reality
of
it.
We're
we're
only
we're
not
even
10
years
away
from
having
less
than
one
billion
dollar
budget
for
this
city.
P
There's
no
excuse
for
why
we
can't
provide
for
our
Citizens
We're
right.
We
have
a
spending
problem
in
the
city,
we're
not
spending
on
the
priorities
that
the
citizens
have
asked
us
to
spend
on.
We
spent
you
know
122
million
dollars
on
a
building.
We
really
didn't
need
like
we
could
have
kept
going
renting.
P
Maybe
it
wouldn't
have
been
better
in
the
long
run,
but
we
had
more
pressing
needs,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
answer
that,
for
you
and
I
also
wanted
to
let
you
know
what
the
bonding
capability
is.
Miss
Travis
is
right
behind
you
and
she
was
talking
about
for
housing
with
9.1
million,
that
we
can
leverage
that,
if
I'm
correct
to
get
about
130
million
now
we
wouldn't
necessarily
need
all
that,
and
she
wouldn't
do
that
the
very
first
year,
but
it
that's
the
kind
of
Leverage
that
we
can
get
now.
P
P
I
spoke
to
Chief
Tripp
about
the
amount
of
fire
stations.
You
would
want
down
at
a
time
and
she
agreed
that
two
maximum
or
what
you
would
want
to
be
rebuilt
at
the
same
time,
in
order
to
make
sure
that
you
know
you
aren't,
you
know
all
living
in
a
trailer
on
those
properties.
So
you
know
if
we
could
get
a
great
calendar
going
for
replacing
two
stations
every
year
at
a
cost
of
between
seven
to
nine
million
dollars.
P
Absolutely
that
can
be
done
and
that's
going
to
depend
on
us
to
make
sure
we
stay
on
top
of
that
priority
and
because
it's
very
true,
we
can
put
money
in
the
budget,
but
if
the
administration
doesn't
want
to
spend
it,
they
won't,
and
so
it
relies
on
all
of
us
to
keep
our
eye
on
it.
And
so
my
promise
to
you
is
that
I'm
going
to
keep
my
eye
on
it's
the
best
of
my
ability.
N
Yeah
it's
my
turn
Nick.
This
is
an
interesting
time
to
be
a
neophyte
on
city
council
I'm,
not
a
politician.
N
I'm,
a
I
am
an
educator
and
a
single
mother
and
a
caregiver,
so
I
kind
of
think
of
things
that
differently
I'm
not
worried
about
in
the
election
next
year,
which
is
why
I
did
support
the
millage
now
I
kind
of
wish
that
I
would
have
seconded
councilman
member
vieira's
motion
for
his
small
millage
increase.
I
actually
wish
I
would
have
second
that
so
we
could
have
at
least
had
the
discussion
and
address
the
needs
of
fire
and
police,
and
that
was
a
neophyte
error.
N
So
I
want
to
just
say
that
just
like
you
know
we're
just
learning,
but
one
of
the
things
that
I
appreciate
in
your
presentation
is
the
fact
that
Local
754
and
the
chief
at
her
Administration,
you
all,
are
beginning
to
collaborate
a
little
bit
more
and
I.
Think
that's
really
important,
especially
in
a
critical
time.
Is
this
because
the
needs
are
so
great
for
fire
and
I
said
it
in
my
earlier
comments
about.
N
You
know
not
wanting
to
take
a
dime
away
from
the
budget
and
the
requests
that
have
been
made,
because
it's
all
about
Public
Safety,
having
I'm
coming
from
the
perspective
of
living
with
a
92
year
old
mother,
where
I
have
called
Fire
and
Rescue
seven
times
in
two
years
and
I
want
them
there
and
I
want
her
at
the
hospital
as
quick
as
possible.
N
That's
what
I
want,
and
so
the
only
way
that
that
can
happen
is
if
all
cylinders
are
working
with
them
by
your
rescue,
and
that
takes
funding,
and
that's
just
really
important
to
me.
I,
don't
want
to
even
consider
that
I
don't
want
to
hear
anything
except
you
getting
her
where
she
needs
to
be
where
she
needs
to
be
when
she
needs
to
be
there,
and
so
anyway,
there's
there
hey
by
the
way,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
trailers
staying
in
a
trailer
to
get
a
new
fire
station.
There's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
I
This
up,
yes,
sir
and
I-
appreciate
that
Mr
chair
very
much
I
wanted
to
I
I
had
a
well
long
story.
Short
I
got
to
leave
for
a
family
issue
with
my
mom
in
a
doctor's
appointment.
I
had
to
get
the
poor
woman
an
Uber,
so
I
got
to
go
pick
her
up,
but
I
I
know
I,
know,
but
yeah,
but
I
wanted
to
make
a
couple
motions
on
this
issue,
but
I
want
to
respond
to
something
from
councilman.
Carlson
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
have
parameters.
I
I,
guess
if
you
will
on
this
issue
in
in
in
terms
of
the
mayor,
the
mayor's
people,
all
that
kind
of
stuff
which
is
you
know,
I
I,
walked
in
on
I
guess
it
was
Tuesday
100
dedicated
to
voting
against
the
1.0
or
anything
near
I
oppose
what
the
mayor
was
trying
to
do.
My
intention,
which
I
stated
very
clearly
from
day
one
was
to
have
a
significantly
reduced
millage.
That
would
probably
merely
benefit
Public
Safety.
I
I
Seventy
percent,
I
guess
was
the
mayor
said,
but
but
I
want
to
be
clear
that
when
I
say
things,
I
haven't
talked
to
the
mayor's
people
about
this
I,
sometimes
I
side
with
the
mayor,
sometimes
I,
don't
early
this
year,
I
voted
to
override,
not
one,
not
two,
not
three,
not
four,
but
five
vetoes
from
the
mayor
on
the
charter.
I
We
don't
always
agree
right.
So
what
I'm
saying
here
is
is
for
myself
100,
because
Tuesday
could
get
emotional
people.
The
tempers
could
flare.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
Wednesday
I
keep
on
saying
I'm,
sorry,
I
don't
mean.
I
I
know
right
there
you
go
I
just
want
to
make
sure
and
and
I
and
I
respect
councilman
Carlson
100
in
his.
You
know
success
on
these
issues
in
no
ways
encumbers
mind
but
but
I
I,
just
just
my
my
opinion
in
that
regard,
that
I'm
not
talking
to
the
mayor's
office
about
or
anything
of
that,
nature,
I
I
and
with
regards
to
Prior
spending.
I
My
issue
always
is
city
council,
passes
the
mayor,
signs
a
law
and
always
said
that
the
any
mistakes
that
we've
made
that
I
never
want
our
First
Responders
to
pay
for
it.
That's
that's
always
been
my
view,
but
if
I
may
I
do
want
to
make
just
a
quick
motion
on
number
one,
and
we
can
have
this
come
back
the
second
week
in
December
I'm,
just
making
that
up.
B
I
I
I
may,
for
that
so
number
one.
A
motion
for
administration
to
come
back
with
a
proposed
plan
of
action
for
bonding
of
future
fire
stations
and
Public
Safety
needs
for
the
steps
taken
to
be
doing
that
Etc
number
two
is
for
and
I'm
going
to
exclude
the.
D
B
I
Yes,
sir,
and
then
and
I'm
going
to
exclude
that
whenever
you
know,
whenever
I'll
tell
you
what
how
about
this
councilman
Miranda
wisely
brought
up
the
issue
of
Public
Safety
impact
fees.
What
day
is
that
coming
is.
I
Let's
do
this
all
I'll
talk
to
the
administration,
about
making
sure
that
they
put
in
all
revenue
sources,
not
just
Public
Safety
impact
fees,
whether
it's
fees
or
a
ten
dollar
10
cent
tax
on
baseball
cards,
whatever
that
that
we
can
that
we
can
look
at
so
I'll
we
can
handle
that
offline,
then
the
next
one
is-
and
this
is
the
last
one-
is
a
request
for
consideration
of
a
one-year
addendum
for
the
five-year
report
from
Tampa
Fire
Rescue,
so
that
we
can
review
the
progress
It's,
a
request
for
fire
to
do
that
doesn't
need
to
come
back
because
I
know
y'all,
don't
want
to.
I
You
know
limit
your
time
Etc,
so
I
I
would
make
that
request,
because
having
a
one-year
addendum
as
opposed
to
every
five
years,
helped
supplement
the
master
plan
idea.
I
would
say
so
that's
my
motion.
What
date
was
that
and
we
don't
need
that
to
come
back
I,
think
it
would
be
your
request?
Okay
and
then
we
can
work
with
TFR
when
that
comes
back
to
us
because
I,
don't
you
know,
we.
X
Sir
sorry
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
three
things
very
quickly.
One
is
as
we
get
into
budget
and
budget
positions,
the
airport
and
MacDill
are
contracted
apparatuses,
so
we
do
get
full
reimbursement
for
about
53
employees
to
keep
that
in
mind
for
next
Wednesday.
Okay,.
B
X
Other
is
if
we
can
do
a
capital
facilities
master
plan.
We
don't
need
data,
we
don't
need
run
volume,
we
don't
need
response
times
the
stations
the
years
were
built
the
years
the
stations
were
built
have
not
changed.
If
we
can
do
a
plan
just
strictly
off
facilities,
fire
station
facilities
and
how
those
need
to
be
improved,
that'd
be
a
great.
K
R
Chief
chief
trip,
when
in
your
presentation
you
talked
about
the
the
accreditation
document
that
you
send
over
I,
don't
remember
seeing
that
before
sorry,
if
I
missed
it,
but
is
it
possible
you
could
I
won't
make
a
motion,
but
could
you
just
send
that
to
us
also
because
it
sounds
like
it
has
some
of
your
aspirations
and
planning
in
it.
R
Document
that
you
supply
to
to
for
your
reaccreditation
just
so
we
can,
because
it
sounded
like
it,
has
some
of
your
strategy
and
ideas.
The
the
last
thing
we
we
all
we
all
talked
about
the
political
aspects
of
of
this.
A
little
bit.
You
know
where
I,
where
I
come
from
on
the
budget
is
a
is
just
a
deep
philosophical
feeling.
We
all
sometimes
do
that
I
I,
don't
care
if
I
ever
get
reelected.
R
Anything
obviously
I'd
say
a
lot
of
things
up
here
that
show
that,
but
but
what
I
call
Chief
of
Staff
130
or
two
whatever
it
was
when
we
left
the
other
morning
and
I
said,
look,
nobody
won
and
nobody
lost
tonight
we
all
lost
and
we
all
won.
I
said
the
mayor
won
because
she
proposed
a
solution.
R
It
wasn't
a
complete
solution,
it
was
a
partial
solution,
but
she
won
and
that
she
proposed
something.
It
showed
leadership
that
she
did
that
I
said
tomorrow.
What
we
can
say
is
that
what
she
can
say
is
look
I
propose
something
and
the
community
and
city
council
decided
not
to
do
it.
So
now
we
have
to
work
with
what
we
have
this.
The
city
council
didn't
win.
We
had
to
had
to
go
through
seven
hours
of
arguments
and
and
public
comments
and
thousands,
maybe
of
emails
and
everything
we
didn't
win
either.
R
There's
no
winner
or
loser
in
this,
that
we
also
lost
that
we
don't
have
the
money
to
do
these
things,
but
we
have
to
make
a
judgment.
You
know
just
like
the
parable
of
Solomon
and
the
baby.
We
had
to
make
a
judgment
about
about
what
do
we
do
and
and
and
we,
the
majority
of
us,
chose
One
path.
It
does
it.
R
It
doesn't
mean
that
one
is
better
than
the
other
in
the
long
term
we'll
see,
but
the
one
other
way
the
mayor
wins
is
that
we
have
a
better
chance
of
surviving
this
recession.
That's
coming
right
now
by
not
adding
costs
to
our
economy,
I
still
think
we're
going
to
get
hit
pretty
hard
and
the
numbers
lag
where
we
are,
but
the
other
thing
I
said
to
chief
of
staff
and
I
also
called
him
again.
R
R
I
want
to
have
a
press
conference
with
the
chair
city
council,
Guido,
Maniscalco,
and
announced
that
that,
although
the
community
and
city
council
did
not
like
the
proposal
I
made,
we
worked
together
over
these
past
two
weeks
and
we
protected
the
five
things
that
I
propose
and
that's
what
we
need
to
do.
We
need
it.
Now
is
a
time
for
leadership,
not
politics.
We
need
to
work
on
how
do
we?
How
do
we
solve
this
problem?
We
are
facing
a
very
difficult
situation.
R
B
I
D
I
I
was
going
to
say:
I
really
have
to
run
it
because
I'm
20
minutes
away
and
that's
when
I
need
to
be
there.
I
I
have
that
ordinance
that
Justin
vaskey
was
going
to
present
on.
Can
someone
please
motion
to
continue
it
sometime
in
what
what
the
hell
are?
We
in
September
in
October,
Justin,
I
I
apologize
I
do.
Can
someone
do
that.
I
Weird
thing
I
want
to
do
if
I
may
I
motion
to
continue
can.
B
We
do
November
2nd
there
you
go.
This
is
the
number
on
the
agenda
to
understand.
B
We
have
a
motion,
this
is
going
to
be
for
November,
2nd
under
staff
reports,
Mr
vaska
we
apologize
and
we
thank
you
for
your
patience.
So
we
have
a
motion
by
councilmember
second
by
councilmember
Miranda,
all
in
favor
aye,
all
right.
We
got
some
yes
ma'am.
Thank.
N
You
I
just
want
to
say
my
concern
is,
of
course,
I
have
no
problem
working
with
staff.
I
have
evidence
of
that.
Every
time
I
meet
with
them,
but
my
concern
is
that
they
are
the
area
they.
They
are.
The
experts
in
their
particular
perspective,
Fields,
but
45
million
dollars
is
a
lot
to
cut
and
my
fear
is
someone's
going
to
lose
their
jobs.
N
That's
my
fear.
When
you're
looking
for
45
million
dollars
and
you're
saying
that
there's
waste
I,
just
don't
see
that
being
and
purchasing
things,
I
see
that
in
human
capital-
and
that
is
my
biggest
fear
regarding
what
we're
being
asked
to
do
and
we're
asking
staff
to
do
that,
and
that
is
going
to
be
very
difficult.
N
B
And
Mr
Shelby
I
was
going
to
ask
if
it
would
be
appropriate
for
me
to
make
a
motion
that
before
next
Wednesday
we
get
under
Personnel
in
the
budget.
What
new
positions
are
being
requested
in
this
upcoming
budget
that
have
not
been
filled?
What
that
dollar
amount
is
I'm,
sorry
yeah.
S
K
K
B
Then
I
won't
have
to
make
a
motion.
I
can
I
can
pull
it
up
myself,
but
we're
talking
about
proposed
positions
and
looking
at
those.
So
that's
that's
something
an
option.
So
that's
it
but
I'm
not
going
to
discuss
it
now.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
had
a
few
items
that
were
pulled
for
discussion.
Item
number,
19,
I,
believe
council
member
Carlson.
Did
you
pull
that.
D
R
Mr
murtaz
I
just
want
to
I,
talked
to
Miss
murtar
right
motorbike.
Sorry,
man,
it's
too
late,
I
call
them.
How
do
you
say
it
again?
Murderback
Richard,
mutterbach,
okay,
Richard,
mother,
sorry,
my
brain's
fried
so
so.
My
concern
with
this,
which
is
a
discussion
for
another
day,
is
we
need
to
talk
about
the
CCNA
process?
We
need
to
talk
about
bonding.
We
need
to
talk
about
Services
purchase
of
services.
R
What
this
does
is
it's
a
pre-approved
list
of
I,
think
engineers
and
Architects,
and
then
the
the
the
cad
Department
can
assign
them
work,
orders
up
to
200,
000.
and
and
and
and
as
I
understood
it
in
the
hall
there's
no
limit
overall
and
that
work
orders
don't
have
to
be
approved
by
city
council
right.
R
Not
anything
so
my
concern
is
that
is
that
and
you
look
at
Hannah
Avenue
and
also
Fair
Oaks
or
the
East
Coast
Park.
You
had
a
situations
where
the
the
construction
companies
are
paid,
a
percentage
of
the
deal
and
there's
there's
price
escalation.
Without
a
discussion
about
the
budget
and
and
and
and
and
you
know,
I
talked
to
Mr
Spearman
about
furniture
a
few
months
ago
and
said
if
somebody
wants
to
buy
five
million
of
furniture,
you
have
to
have
an
RP
right.
R
Yes,
if
they
want
five
million
more
in
Furniture,
there's
has
to
be
another
RP,
but
in
the
case
of
Hannah
Avenue
we
went
from
400
000
to
122
million
without
an
RFP.
In
the
case
of
Fair
Oaks,
we
went
from
5
million
to
18
to
to
41
without
an
RFP,
and
so
we
need.
We
need
a
different
process
for
handling
this,
and
so
my
request
to
him
was
to
delay
this
until
after
we
talk
about
the
cad
process
and
put
some
controls
around
it.
R
Just
the
same
as
we
talked
about
the
fire
station
and
the
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
for
affordable
housing,
it
didn't
get
done
because
the
administration
didn't
want
to
do
it
in
this
case.
There's
a
lot
of
things
being
done.
The
the
people
of
East
Tampa
were
promised
an
extra
23
million
dollars
on
a
park,
and
we
didn't
even
know
about
it
until
after
they
had
been
promised
it.
R
So
we
need
to
put
some
guard
rails
around
this,
so
that
we
can
be
involved
in
the
process
and
it's
and
we've
got
a
new
administrator
who
seems
to
be
eager
to
want
to
do
it.
We've
set
up
a
meeting,
I
asked
if
this
could
be
continued
till
after
that
other
discussion
and
he's
recommending
no,
and
so,
unless
you
all
want
to
delay
it
I'm
going
to
just
vote.
No,
how.
R
T
Not
an
urgent
need,
it's
just
there's
15
firms
that
went
through
the
RFP
process.
We
vetted
all
15
firms
and
selected
all
15
firms,
three
of
which
are
minority,
small
local
business,
black
Hispanic,
so
20
of
those
firms
that-
and
this
just
makes
them
available
for
use
now,
it's
just
putting
I
mean
it's
15
additional
firms
that
would
become
available
if
any,
if
any
task
in
their
in
their
wheelhouse
per
se
comes
up
between
now
and
and.
R
N
AA
Reason
why
the
100
000
limit
is
by
code.
Anything
over
under
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
does
not
come
to
council,
so
purchasing
contracts,
all
different
contracts,
so
there's
an
ordinance
on
the
books.
You'd
have
to
amend
that
ordinance.
In
fact,
we've
been
looking
at
whether
that
limit
needs
to
be
adjusted
upward
act
a
little
bit.
What
is
the
limit
of
these
contracts?
What
kind
of
what
give
examples
of
what
these
work
order
contracts
are
for?
Are
there
and
are
there
monetary
limits?
So
council
is
assured
that
it's
not
going
to
go
up
to.
R
Can
I
just
double
so
I?
Just
that's,
but
can
I
just
say
one
thing,
and
this
is
talking
about
the
past
not
now
and
I've.
Seen
with
other
governments.
What
happens?
Is
you
issue
like
10
different
work,
orders
for
three
thousand
dollars,
or
we
had
the
case
and
I?
Don't
think
it's
the
fire
chief's
fault,
but
the
fire
chief
had
a
strategic
plan.
R
That
was
what
was
it
Nicky,
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
ninety
nine
dollars,
and
so
it
was
just
under
the
threshold
and
and
so
somehow,
we've
gotta
we've
gotta
come
up
with
a
solution
solution
for
this
and
I.
Don't
I
don't
want
to
look
at
thousands
of
contracts
either,
but
when
we
have
an
open-ended
check,
I
mean
we.
Maybe
it's
limiting
the
total
amount
they'll
go
to
one
firm
or
the
number
of
times
people
get.
R
B
B
B
B
All
right,
okay,
it's
under
public
works.
C
C
B
P
You
know
I
thought
about
this,
because
I
I
read
the
agenda
every
week
and
I
pull
out
things
and
I
talked
I,
asked
about
this
with
staff
and
it's
a
5500
ice
maker
for
the
legal
department,
ice
and
water,
it's
ice
and
water,
it's
for
the
whole
building,
but
it's
behind
the
locked
doors
it
is
going
on.
P
The
second
floor
see
now
we've
that
wasn't
what
I
was
told,
but
anyway
I
just
I
wanted
to
bring
this
up,
because
these
are
the
little
things
that
we're
all
going
to
have
to
start
looking
at
in
the
budget.
Now,
whether
or
not
we
want
to
do
anything
about
this
I'm,
bringing
it
up
as
a
point
of
the
little
things
that
we
all
need
to
start
looking
at
as
wants
and
needs.
P
So
it's
it's
something
that
I
understand
that
right
now,
people
from
Old
City
Hall
go
across
to
T
mob
to
get
ice
and
water
I
understand
that
our
ice
here
is
terrible
but
I'm
going
to
let
Miss
Travis
advocate,
for
this
sure
and.
Z
Thank
you,
I
forgot,
Andrew
was
calling
in
online
and
agent
could
provide
more
details
because
it
is
in
her
budget,
but
I'll
tell
you
that
I
was
a
person
that
advocated
for
this,
for
our
colleagues
that
are
in
the
old
city
hall
building,
because
I
can
look
out
my
window
of
my
office
and
see
them
walking
over
in
rain
to
get
ice
water
from
the
T
mob
building.
So
I
advocated
for
my
colleagues
that
are
executive
or
legislative
aides,
the
clerk's
office,
the
legal
department,
just
happens
to
be
the
largest
Department
in
this
building.
Z
We
have
Lucia
wind,
has
some
staff
in
this
office
and
Communications
as
well,
so
I'll?
Let
adri
talk
about
the
details,
but
this
came
from
me
advocating
for
my
colleagues
in
Old
City
Hall,
for
a
service
that
they
have
to
cross
the
street
for
tmob
in
in
whatever
inclement
weather
is
going
on
outside
and.
Z
AB
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
Miss
Travis.
Yes,
it
is
simply
reallocating
funds
that
is
in
my
existing
operating
budget,
this
fiscal
year
from
operating
into
capital,
and
it's
funds
that
we
said
we
could
better
use
in
this
form.
I'm
not
asking
for
any
other
funds,
but
miss
Travis
is
Right.
We've
had
record-breaking
Heat
this
summer.
We
have
rain
and
Old
City
Hall
does
not
have
an
ice
dispenser
and
a
water
dispenser,
and
so
I'm
not
asking
for
a
luxury
item.
It's
really
a
quality
of
life
item.
AB
We
have
approximately
70
staff
members
in
Old,
City
Hall,
with
the
majority
of
them
being
in
the
legal
department.
The
legal
department
did
not
make
this
request
and
we
were
looking
at
two
separate
areas
in
Old,
City
Hall,
where
it
can
be
placed
and
we've
landed
on
the
second
floor,
which
is
accessible
to
everyone,
and
it
will
eliminate
the
need
for
staff
in
that
building
to
have
to
walk
across
the
way
just
to
get
ice.
Water.
Z
And
it's
going
on
the
second
floor
comes
over.
Her
attack,
I
think
there's
a
space
on
the
second
floor.
Next,
like
a
kitchen
space,
that's
available
and
it's
not
behind
locked
doors.
Okay,
so,
okay.
P
AC
P
To
how
to
spend
not
talking
about
this
fiscal
Year's
budget
I'm
talking
about
next
fiscal
Year's
budget
and
I,
just
wanted
to
bring
it
up,
because
I
literally
woke
up
in
the
middle
of
the
night
last
night
and
went
so
the
ice
maker.
No,
it's
it's
just
the
little
things
that
we
are
really
going
to
have
to
do,
and
for
me
it
was
a.
It
was
a
visual.
So
anyway,
it's
it's,
not
my
department,
I,
don't
think.
B
AB
Will
say
that
you
know?
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Councilman
it
is,
is
water,
it's
water
and
ice.
It
is
consistent
with
tmov
with
the
staff
in
Lemon
Street.
It
is
consistent
with
the
folks
at
parks
and
rec
at
cmob
tpd
locations,
fire
stations.
We
should
not
treat
the
staff
in
Old
City
Hall
any
differently.
AB
It's
not
a
luxury
item
and
honestly
we
put
it
on
today's
agenda
really
just
being
transparent
because
come
fiscal
year,
24
I
would
have
had
Capital
funds,
I
could
have
purchased
it,
but
we
wanted
to
be
transparent
and
that's
always
the
case
with
us
and
it's
a
better
use
of
the
money
than
just
spending
it
on
operating
right
now
and
honestly,
as
I
waited
today
to
speak.
I
listened
this
morning
to
our
invocation
and
the
young
man
Mr,
balloon
very
accurately
said
it's
not
about
us
it's
about
what
we
can
do
for
others
and
I'm.
AB
Here
today.
For
my
colleagues
in
Old
City,
Hall
city
employees,
who
work
very
hard
and
as
public
sector
employees,
we
can't
offer
the
perks
that
some
private
Industries
can't
I.E
weight
rooms,
cater
lunches,
etc
and
an
ice
machine
and
a
water
dispenser
is
not
quite
a
perk.
But
it
does
say
it
does
go
a
long
way
saying
towards
saying
we
appreciate
you
and
I
heard
councilman
condented
earlier
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you-
and
you
said,
public
service
is
not
a
sexy
job
and
you're
right.
P
AB
L
P
Item
number
32
is
the
appropriation
of
11
million
dollars
for
personnel
expenditures
for
for
fire
and
police,
and
we
just
moved
a
large
amount
of
American
Rescue
act
dollars
and
from
my
understanding
they
were
moved
because
we
had
to
we.
We
had
to
allocate
them
because
the
federal
government
was
possibly
going
to
be
pulling
those
monies
back.
So
we
put
them
into
a
public
safety
personnel
and
when
I
looked
through
the
report
for
AF
for
the
American
arpa.
P
W
Mike
Perry
budget
officer,
so
thank
you
for
the
actions
you
took
in
May
we're
we're
about
101
obligated
on
our
arpa
fund.
So
we
protected
the
82
million
dollars.
I
appreciate
that
what
we
did
is
we
took
about
19
million
dollars
of
Public
Safety
salaries
and
we
reduced
the
those
Public
Safety
salaries
in
the
general
fund
and
we
increased
out
the
same
Public
Safety
salaries
in
the
arbor
operating
fund,
and
then
we
moved
a
corresponding
amount
of
expenses
out
of
the
general
fund
into
the
arbor
fund.
W
So
from
if
you
were
to
look
at
the
police
department
not
segregated
by
funds,
it
would
be
very,
it
would
be
equal
to
each
other.
So
it's
a
one
for
one
dollar:
now
we
reduced
the
police
department's
arpa
personnel
and
fire
our
Personnel
fund,
and
we
move
them
to
I,
do
believe.
The
housing
fund
I
think
we
put
14
million
dollars.
There
don't
quote
me
and
then
we
move
some
money
into
the
Utility
Services
tax,
Capital
Construction
fund
to
funds
on
capital
projects.
W
P
So
I
guess
what
I
would
love
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
or
maybe
I
don't
need
to
make
a
motion.
Maybe
you
can
just
provide
this
for
us
if,
if
you
could
just
provide
us
that
that
balance
that
you
just
explained
verbally
in
a
written
form,
so
just
all
of
that
arpa
money
and
I
I
I
may
have
already
asked
CFO
or
O'hara
for
this.
But
if
you
could
just
yes.
P
So
so,
yes,
knowing
where
those
funds
are
coming
from
and
where
they've
been
moved
to,
because
if
we
have
that
kind
of
money
sitting
in
housing,
I'd
love
to
know
about
it,
and
so
so
that
was
really
my
question
was
making
sure.
So
now
we
put
44
million
dollars
of
our
77
million
dollars
or
of
our
108
million
dollars.
We
got
from
arpa.
J
P
Would
love
the
total
history
about
what's
gone
in
and
out?
I
read
the
report,
but
it's
not
as
detailed
in
terms
of
previous
years
last
year
is
very
clear
and
I
greatly
appreciate
that,
but
I
would
love
to
know
what
God
moved
where
just
to
kind
of
see
the
percentage
of
where
we
as
a
city,
as
someone
so
eloquently
said
where
we
spend
our
money
is
about,
is
about
our
values
and
I
know.
P
A
lot
of
that
was
we
wanted
to
put
in
housing,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it
actually
makes
its
way
there
at
some.
W
P
So
yes,
ma'am
and
that's
the
only
reason
I
brought
it
up
is
because
I
just
wanted
to
know
where
that
money
went.
If
we
could
possibly
get
that
by
the
weekends.
That
would
be
great
because,
knowing
where
that
money
is
going
really
helps
us
figure
out
where
in
the
budget,
where,
where
we
can
move
funds
and.
B
Touching
on
that,
while
you're
here,
as
was
mentioned
this
morning,
it
has
come
up
and
and
clarify
if,
if
I'm
wrong,
but
five
and
a
half
million
dollars
that
keeps
coming
up,
that
was
moved
to
solid
ways
that
was
to
go
to
housing.
Do
you
know
off
the
top
of
your
head?
That
answer,
or
is
this
a
similar
scenario.
W
I
do
believe
that
we
moved
about
5.5
million
dollars
over
to
Solid
Waste
Capital
to
assist
in
the
relocation
project
and
that's
where
those
funds
were
and
of
that
amount,
probably
about
80
90
percent
of
it
has
been
expended,
but
the
remainder
has
been
encumbered
through
a
purchase
order,
so
those
funds
are
fully
committed.
Now
there
was
a
discussion
about
re-looking
at
the
I'm.
Sorry,
do
you
have
a
question
Mr
chair.
W
They
scheduled
an
eight-hour
meeting
with
me
the
day
after
our
Workshop,
so
I'll
be
really
happy
there,
and,
and
so
based
on
that
race
study,
we're
probably
going
to
come
back
in
25
with
an
adjustment
to
the
race.
Now,
we've
done
everything
to
make
sure
that
the
the
fund
balance
and
the
solid
waste
will
remain
positive
through
the
end
of
24..
W
B
R
I
know
this:
isn't
your
area
for
anybody,
who's
asking
or
who's
watching.
There
was
a
caveat
in
the
in
that
motion
that
that
enabled
staff
to
move
it
back.
So
nobody
did
anything
wrong,
I
think
in
the
future.
We
won't
have
caveats
like
that.
Probably,
but
but
it
would,
it
would
be
helpful
and
I.
R
If
that,
if
that
was
in
the
documents
it
was
buried
somewhere
and
none
of
it
I
think
none
of
us
saw
it
so
again,
nobody
did
anything
wrong,
but
but
just
in
the
future,
if
a
situation
like
that
happens,
it
would
be
great
to
to
communicate
and
like
Andrew
was
saying
ice
maker.
Maybe
they
didn't
have
to
put
it
in
any
any
transparency,
and
discussions
are
very
helpful.
R
R
But
CFO
CFO
was
telling
me
when
we
met
before
that
and
I
might
not
remember
exactly
that.
He
was
expecting
a
12
million
dollar
deficit
this
year,
which
will
be
covered
by
the
I,
think
it
was
22
million
dollar
Reserve
fund
and
so
there's
a
chance
in
2024
that
if,
if
for
some
reason
we
run
a
deficit,
you
know
the
machine
breaks
down
or
whatever,
then
then
we
could
be
pulling
into
the
general
fund,
so
I
think
the
sooner
we,
the
sooner
we
get
the
new
rates
set
and
stabilize
that
the
better.
A
W
Will
tell
you
that
we've
had
some
issues
on
validating
customer
headcount,
because
what
we
want
to
do
is
as
Solid.
Waste
is
a
very
complicated
rate
process
because
you
can
go
down,
you've
got
cards
and
you've
got
compressors.
You've
got
compactors,
you've
got
front-end
loaders.
How
many
times
do
they
pull?
Do
they
pull
once
a
week?
Do
they
pull
three
times
a
week?
Do
they
pull
seven
times
a
week?
W
And
so
a
lot
of
that
is
is
gathering
the
data
and
the
red
consultant
has
the
data
and
then
what
he
does
is
he
goes
through
and
validates
revenues
versus
what's
coming
through
in
our
in
our
accounting
system,
and
so
part
of
that
discussion
is
where
are
the
discrepancies?
Because
we
don't
want
to
go
to
a
rates
issue
the
rates
and
then
have
them
come
out
not
to
expect
what
we
see
so
a
lot
of
it
is
is
validating
the
data
we've
received
from
solid
waste.
A
B
B
Okay.
That
concludes
the
pulled
items.
Let
me
just
get
to.
Where
are
we
at?
Where
are
we
at
all
right
hold
on
a
second
ma'am?
No
I
took
some
notes
here:
real
quick,
we're
at
75.
We
have
a
written
report
transmitted
by
Abby
Keely,
but
she
is
here
in
person.
I'm.
D
W
B
AC
Good
afternoon
Council
Abby
feely
Deputy
Administrator
development
and
growth
management
I'm
here
on
item
75.,
that
is
a
report
on
Senate
Bill
102,
which
we
know
as
the
live
local
act.
This
came
before
you
on
July
13th
and
at
that
time
Council
made
two
motions.
The
first
motion
was
to
see
what
other
local
governments
were
doing
related
to
that
and
the
second
was
to
modify
the
memorandum
which
staff
had
put
together
related
to
the
implementation
of
the
process.
AC
R
I
think
as
I
read
it
and
sorry
to
make
you
wait
so
long,
but
it's
good
for
the
public
to
understand,
because
a
lot
of
people
are
discussing
this,
but
but
I
as
I
understand
what
you
did
following
the
input
from
council
is
that
you
all
took
out
anything
that
was
not
specifically
covered
in
the
law
and
you
just
set
the
new
rules
to
precisely
follow
the
law.
R
For
example,
maybe
parking
was
not
included
in
the
law,
but
it
was
included
initial
recommendations,
but
now
it's
out
so
any
anything
that
doesn't
specifically
cover
the
law
will
follow.
The
the
existing
processes.
Is
that
correct
that.
P
N
Same
thing
we
talked
about
it
earlier,
I
appreciate
it,
and
so
at
this
point
we're
going
to
leave
it
as
you
recommended
it
in
your
first
presentation
from
the
first
time
right,
that's
after
the
motion.
Well,
that's.
AC
Together
and
and
the
objective
behind
what
we
originally
did
and
I
don't
want
to
belabor
this
or
make
your
day
any
longer
was
to
provide
a
unified
approach
to
the
implementation
of
this
this
program
or
this
state
legislation.
Now
that
local
governments
are
required
to
do
in
an
effort
to
get
the
best
housing
projects
that
we
can
get
and
in
order
to
maximize
the
use
of
our
very
limited
lands
as
they
come
in
if
they
come
in
and
when
they
come
in
we've
counseled
several
projects
on
this,
we
have
not
had
any
formal
applications.
AC
As
of
today
I
think
there
has
been
some
discussion
amongst
the
development
Community
to
see
what
exactly
was
going
to
come
out
of
this
discussion
today.
So
if
we
need
to
discuss
any
of
the
details
of
what
was
behind
that
I
am
here
today
and
I'm
happy
to
do
that
in
partnership
with
with
the
legal
department.
N
AD
Yes,
ma'am
on
July
13th
when
we
presented
the
city's
implementation
of
the
live
local
act,
Senate
Bill
102
what
we
had
included
in
addition
to
what
Senate,
Bill
102
provided
and
mandated,
we
included
the
ability
to
seek
a
reduction
in
parking
that
was
consistent
with
other
reductions
that
the
city,
council
and
staff
has
approved
through
a
design
exception
process.
We
also
included
the
ability
to
reduce
the
Green
Space
requirements
again
consistent
with
other
things.
Yes
ma'am,
and
the
idea
was
instead
of
requiring
an
applicant
who's
interested
in
pursuing
a
project
under
the
live
local
act.
AD
Instead
of
requiring
them
to
file
more
than
one
application,
we
were
recommending
and
supportive
of
the
idea
of
one
application
that
would
include
the
ability
to
seek
those
reductions
that
can
otherwise
be
sought
administratively,
as
a
design
exception
one.
So
the
the
idea
was
one
application.
Instead
of
three
consistent
with
council's
Direction
on
July
13th,
we've
amended
the
memorandum
removed
the
ability
to
pursue
those
parking
and
green
space
reductions
as
part
of
this
live
local
act
application,
but,
as
Abby
just
mentioned,
the
applicant
can
still
seek
those
reductions.
AD
N
N
AD
AD
AD
N
That's
that's
what
I
would
like,
because
that
the
efficiency
is
I,
think
what's
important,
because
we
asked
you
all
to
do
this.
You
came
back
as
the
professionals
with
the
recommendation
initially
and
you
know
that's
what
I
would
like
to
move
forward
on,
but
I'm
not
sure
is
that
saying
this
is
a
near
flight
situation.
Is
that
saying
that
we
need
to
write
another
memo
for
this
or
how
do
we
proceed
from
a
motion
standpoint?
One.
AD
Thing
if
I
may,
with
respect
to
the
parking
the
live
local
act,
did
ask
and
and
did
encourage
local
governments
to
look
at
parking
reductions.
So
we
did
that
so
that
was
while
it
was
not
mandated
by
the
ACT.
Local
governments
were
encouraged
to
look
at
the
ability
to
reduce
parking.
With
respect
to
your
question,
we
would
want
if,
if
the
direction
is
to
go
back
to
the
original
recommendation
as
presented
on
July
13th,
we
would
like
a
motion
of
counsel.
We
don't
need
to
come
back
with
another
memo.
K
Mr,
chairman
may
ask
a
clarifying
question:
go
ahead.
Thank
you
in
your
memo
you
mentioned
as
I,
recall
and
correct
me
if
I'm
mistaken,
but
they're
worth
as
you.
As
you
say,
there
were
things
that
were
included
the
parking
in
the
green
space
and,
and
that
was
a
decision
that
was
made
or
a
recommendation
that
was
made
to
do
it
administratively,
based
on
actions
that
Council
had
previously
taken
that
came
to
Council
in.
AD
K
Regard
to,
if
because
there's
a
line
in
here
and
I,
just
that's
what
I'm
asking
for
the
clarification,
the
line
of
your
memo
saying
that
I
believe
it
says
that
if
the
request
for
the
design
exception
exceeds
the
authority
of
Staff
under
the
code,
it
will
be
necessary
for
the
applicant
to
seek
a
rezoning
before
city
council.
Yes,
would
that
have
remained
the
same
with
your
initial
proposal?
Yes,
sir?
It
will,
it
will
have
sure.
Yes,.
R
R
In
fact
they
preempted
this
city,
council,
the
city,
sorry,
the
city
council,
just
before
me
passed
a
tree
ordinance
that
took
like
two
years
of
negotiation
and
then
the
state
legislature
came
in
it
preempted
it
just
after
it
was
passed,
and
that
was
a
consensus
between
neighborhoods
and
developers
who
all
I
think
Mr
nicolini
was
one
of
them
who
all
worked
hard
on
that
and
then
suddenly
the
legislature
threw
it
out.
R
So
we've
seen
that
over
and
over
and
over
again
so
the
community
is
very
concerned
about
State,
preemptions
and-
and
my
concern
about
this
the
other
day
is
that
is
that,
if
we're,
if
the
state
imposes
a
preemption
on
us,
I,
don't
want
to
go
beyond
the
state
preemption
and
give
up
more
rights
and
expectations.
You
know
we
get
blamed
if
if
a
developer
goes
in
and
tears
down
trees
and
then
the
city
points
to
the
state
law,
whatever
and
and
and
I,
don't
want
to
give
up
more
more
Authority.
R
Without
that
now
the
flip
side
of
it
is
that
our
our
process
takes
too
long,
but
I
don't
think
it's
because
of
the
council
schedule,
because
we're
pretty
flexible
about
setting
up
new
meetings
and
also
there.
There
are
some
things
that
we
could
maybe
simplify.
But
if
we're
going
to,
if
we're
going
to
put
things
under
admin,
I
think
that
has
to
be
a
separate
process
that
we
hold
with
our
community,
not
not
as
just
something
we
tack
onto
a
state
preemption.
If.
AD
Right
any
other
power
from
the
city,
council
and
I
think
maybe
I
didn't
make
that
clear.
On
July
13th,
the
intent
was
simply
to
combine
under
one
application.
What
can
otherwise
be
approved
administratively
by
staff,
and
so
the
intent
definitely
was
not
to
take
away
from
this
city
council's
power
and
in
the
event
that
a
project
that
seeks
approval
through
the
live
local
act
seeks
a
parking
reduction
greater
than
what
can
be
approved.
Administratively
seeks
a
green
space
waiver
greater
than
what
can
be
approved
administratively
or
seeks
other
types
of
modifications
or
waivers.
AD
R
And
I'm,
not
criticizing
you
or
blaming
you
I,
think
when,
when
you
presented
did
Nicole
help
you
I
don't
remember,
but
when
you
all
presented
it
at
least
for
me,
it
I
was
surprised
that
that
some
of
those
things
were
included
and
so
I
know
you
all
work
hard
to
brief
Us
in
advance
and
that
anyway
appreciate
you
all
going
back
and
redoing.
R
In
fact,
one
of
my
motions
that
was
on
the
agenda
today
and
we
moved
it
again-
is
to
extend
the
CBD
there's,
no
reason
why,
if,
if
Water
Street
is
going
to
be
at
the
fa
limit
on
one
side
of
Meridian,
there's
no
reason
why
the
other
side
of
Meridian
can't
be
that
way
as
well.
R
And
so
you
know,
the
development
Community
wants
to
see
that
we're
trying
to
support
them
as
more
than
we
reject
them,
and
I've
also
made
a
motion
to
try
to
allow
maximum
height
limits
on
Dale
Mabry
in
certain
areas,
along
other
corridors
and
in
business
districts,
and
we
need
to
accelerate
those
because
the
business
Community
wants
to
see
that
we
are
serious
about
trying
to
help
them.
We
see
that
pro-housing
Advocates,
who
want
to
put
more
units
on
the
neighborhoods
I,
think,
are
unified
as
saying
we're.
R
Okay,
with
you
putting
maximum
density
in
the
places
where,
where
there
are
corridors
and
and
already
high
density,
we
just
don't
want
you
to
put
a
20
story
building
in
the
middle
of
Hyde
Park
right,
but
along
Kennedy,
Dale
Mabry
certain
other
quarters.
We
can
build
density
and
build
the
units
we
need,
and
so
we
just
need
to
modify
some
of
the
process
along
the
way.
Thank
you.
A
One
statement
is
that
one
I
did
not
understand
when
this
brought
before
us
that
it
was
not
taking
away
Council.
You
know
rights
on
these
decisions
that
it
was
just
administrative,
so
I
don't
know.
If,
since
it's
something
that's
of
all
you're
doing,
if
I
would
I
hear
you
correctly,
all
you're
doing
is
consolidating
paperwork.
That's.
Q
A
Medical,
the
ALS
system
of
the
fire
department's
on
order.
It
won't
be
here
for
another
year,
so
so
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
move.
The
initial
memo
that
was
presented
on
yeah,
July,
13th
and.
P
Yes
and
I
completely
disagree,
and
it's
mainly
because
the
Public's
not
involved
and
I'm
never
going
to
agree
on
something
where
that
takes
the
public
out
of
it.
I
believe
that
the
state's
going
to
come
back
with
another
round
for
this
next
year
and
I
think
we
should
simply
wait.
P
The
public
Trust
is
is
not
very
high
right
now,
I'm
getting
a
lot
of
complaints.
I
have
one
one
gentleman
who's
been
emailing
me
every
day
concerns
about
a
site,
that's
not
being
responded
to
and
those
need
to
be
fixed
before
I'm
willing
to
give
before
I
think
we
should
be
giving
more
availability
to
administrative
decisions
and
the.
P
P
Not
talking
about
this
issue
I'm
talking
about
other
issues
within
this
department
that
I
am
struggling
to
get
answers
for
constituents,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
we
clearly
asked
just
to
make
it
clear
that
we're
going
to
follow
live
local,
the
way
we
need
to
follow
it
and
that
the
public
would
like
to
know
when
other
issues
are
coming
forward
to
the
best
of
its
knowledge,
because
right
now,
if
somebody
comes
to
them
with
live
local,
not
one
neighborhood,
not
one
Community
member
will
be
will
be
noticed
about
it.
A
D
Z
A
A
P
A
B
R
I'm
definitely
voting
against
this.
If
we
want
to
get
as
I
said,
if
we
want
to
add
more
to
a
state
preemption,
we
need
to
go
to
the
neighborhoods
and
others
and
go
through
that,
and
we
have
motions
that
we
pass
like
some
of
which
I
just
mentioned
a
minute
ago.
A
couple
were
supposed
to
be
on
the
agenda
day
and
they
keep
getting
bumped
and
bumped
a
bump.
R
Instead
of
adding
things
to
a
state,
preemption
I'd
like
to
get
the
things
passed
that
this
that
the
the
development
community
and
the
neighborhoods
want
us
to
pass
so
that
we
can
get
some
of
this
housing
moving
and
and
also
similar
to
council
member
ertag
I
hear
who's
who
of
of
Tampa
developers
and
others
who
say
that
they
feel
like
two
or
three
developers
move
really
fast
and
everybody
else
moves
slowly,
and
we
need
to
fix
that
before
we
start
adding
things
like
this,
and
this
this
is
not
going
to
speed
anything
up.
We.
A
B
A
AC
I
I
think
Abby
feely
I,
think
on
this
item
and.
A
B
77
will
just
do
we
just
move
to.
B
D
T
Y
Y
Kamaria
Pettis
Michael
from
the
legal
department
item
on
July
I'm
here
regarding
item
number
78.
Y
on
July
27
2023
city
council
conducted
a
hearing
to
consider
a
recommended
order
of
a
hearing
officer
regarding
fdn
22148
for
the
property
located
at
7700
West
Courtney
Campbell
Causeway
city
council
approved
a
motion
rejecting
the
recommended
order
and
directed
the
legal
department
to
revive
to
provide
a
revised
final
order
before
you
is
the
revised
final
order
based
upon
the
motion
of
City
Council.
Y
B
B
C
C
B
B
F
Yes,
thank
you.
Last
Tuesday
I
brought
up
the
public
safety
impact
fee
regarding
that,
each
day
about
150
individuals
moved
to
the
wonderful
city
called
Tampa
Florida.
All
these
people
need
places
to
live
whenever
new
development
are
built.
The
Project
based
for
some
kind
of
impact
fee,
for
instance
the
water,
the
sewer,
the
transportation
storm
water,
sidewalks
and
schools.
So
why
isn't
there
one
for
Public
Safety,
so
I
want
to
make
a
motion
to
ask
the
chief
of
staff
and
legal
department
to
report
back
in.
F
November,
2nd
all
right
with
the
ability,
with
the
city's
ability
to
process
an
imposing
Public
Safety
impact
fee.
However,
since
today's
meeting
and
the
other
meetings,
we've
learned
more
and
more
that
some
of
the
items
that
I
mentioned
above
water
sewer,
Transportation
storm
water,
sidewalks
and
schools
hasn't
been
changed
in
many
years.
I
would
like
to
add
that
to
the
second
part
of
this
motion,.
AA
Can
I
clarify
one
thing:
you've
been
advised
several
times
that
legally
you
can
impose
a
public
service
impact,
a
public
safety
impact
fee,
but
there
are
steps
that
you
have
to
follow
and
there's
and
so
the
so
what
I
would
suggest
is.
Maybe
you
modify
your
motion
to
ask
in
November
for
the
administration
to
come
back
about
the
engagement
of
a
consultant
to
do
the
necessary
impact
fee
study?
AA
AA
S
B
F
B
P
Thank
you,
I,
move
that
the
agenda
item
request,
which
serves
as
an
executive
summary
for
each
agenda
item
to
include
a
more
detailed
explanation
of
the
fiscal
impact
for
each
item
so
on
our
sire
on
our
reports
to
get
more
detailed
fiscal
impact.
So
the
fiscal
impact
statement
to
always
include
the
funding
source
and
the
destination
fund,
including
the
current
fund
balances
for
each
fund,
both
by
name
and
account
number
for
every
item.
And
this
shall
begin
at
the
start
of
FY
2024
October,
1st
2023.
P
Yes,
imotion
for
staff
to
present
on
September
27
2023
during
staff
reports
responding
to
Citizen
issue
with
stop
work
order
on
408
and
410
West
Paris
wait.
P
Is
the
seventh
I
I
got
those
numbers
confused
so
at
our
next
regular
meeting?
Yes,
please
be
prepared
to
respond
to
every
question
that
has
been
emailed
from
the
beginning
of
the
email
request
to
today.
September
7th
2023.
AB
P
An
issue
at
408
and
410
West
Paris
I'm
not
getting
any
answer
via
email,
so
okay,
I
figured
I'll,
bring
it
here.
B
P
R
Yeah
I
have
sorry.
I
took
a
few
notes
from
the
day
similar
issue
Davis
Island
Civic
Associated
would
like
to
put
a
donate
a
tree
to
a
park
in
Davis
Island,
and
the
staff
is
not
responding
them
either.
So
I
just
like
to
make
a
motion
to
to
ask
staff
to
allow
Davis
Island
civic
association
to
put
a
donate
a
tree
in
a
park.
N
K
D
K
K
Okay,
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
just
follow
up
to
that
for
for
the
council
woman's
benefit
and
for
the
public
and
for
Council
generally,
what
happens
is
if,
if
you
don't
have
a
date
on
something,
there's
really
no
Tickler
to
it?
It's
really
incumbent
upon
the
maker
of
the
motion
to
follow
that
process.
The
purpose
of
putting
it
on
the
agenda
is
to
ensure
a
a
getting
some
sort
of
response
by
a
particular
date.
It
could
either
be
a
written
motion
which
just
is
a
receiving
file
or
if
they
could
have.
A
R
N
R
So
so
the
point
is
that
if,
if
out
of
the
9
million
five
million
of
it's
allocated
already,
then
we
have
4
million
or
if
we
have
one
million,
if
we
have
nine
whatever
the
number
is
I
just
want
to
know
what
the
number
is,
because
if
we're
trying
to
hit
in
the
five
things,
if
we're
trying
to
hit
a
number
on
housing-
and
we
can
say
well-
here's
five
million
more-
that
reduces
the
45
million.
We
have
to
find
motion.
R
AB
N
Okay
with
this
information,
my
my
primary
concern
is
fees
for
parks
and
rec
mine
too.
No.
R
N
K
K
R
D
AA
Obviously
you
can
make
that
motion
and
if
members
of
the
administrative
staff
have
ideas
that
they're
welcome
to
pass
them
by
just
so,
you
know
that
their
fees
are
fairly
complex
and
that-
and
there
is
I-
think
Miss
hertak
made
a
motion
for
the
citizens
budget
and
finance
advisory
committee
to
look
at
the
fees
that
the
city
of
Tampa
is
charging
to
to
look
at
what
can
be
adjusted
and
raised
over
the
next
I
think
one
year
period
I
mean.
Obviously
we
we
understand
that
this
is
more,
that
people
want
this
moved
quicker.
AA
The
council
would
like
to
move
more
quickly,
but
there's
there's
some
fees
that
the
fees
are
based
on
their
regulatory
fees.
They
have
to
be
commensurate
with
the
cost
of
Regulation,
so
you
have
to
figure
out
what
the
cost
of
Regulation
is.
Then
you
have
fees
for
services,
and
you
have
to
look
at
that.
Then
you
have
impact
fees
which
are
governed
by
state
law,
franchise
fees
which
are
negotiated
contracts
so
that
it's
a
complex,
there's,
no
one-size-fits
all
I'm
just
trying
to
warn
Council.
That's.
A
Yeah
we've
been
working
on
that
and
I've
had
my
Aid
doing
a
lot
of
the
of
the
digging
echoing
what
Mr
Massey
just
said
is
that
it's
a
lot
more
complex
than
just
throw
another
figure
because
of
each
state
law.
You
know
fees
can't
be
this
taxes
in
Disguise
there's.
Also
there's
there's
you
have
to
step
it
in
there's
only
you
can
only
raise
the
fees
by
certain
percent
of
some
fees,
a
certain
percent
each
year
for
X
number
of
times
to
get
to
that
point.
A
So
yeah
we
can
and
we
can
only
recoup
the
cost.
A
fee
can
only
recoup
the
cost
of
actually
providing
that
government
services
plus
some
admin
fee.
So
we
have
been
we've
been
in
fact,
I.
Think
Tim
may
have
reached
out
to
you
yeah
and
we've
been
talking
to
the
chief
of
staff
about
reporting
with
department
heads
because
also
reference
I
know
we
had
we
all.
We
financially
supported
that
resolution
about
the
budget
and
finance
committee.
I.
A
Think
part
of
the
problem
is
because
this
is
so
complex
is
about
there's
a
lot
of
administrative
work
that
needs
to
be
done
to
give
them
the
information
they
need
to
be
able
to
to
really
make
recommendations,
because
so
the
the
administration
I
think
is
responsible.
They
have
to
go
through
and
do
these
studies
and
I
believe
that
they're
and
they
had
to
each
one
of
these
department.
A
R
B
P
Attack,
thank
you
and
that's.
Actually,
the
only
thing
I
was
asking
the
citizens
budget
advisory
committee
to
is
look
through
and
pull
the
ones
that
they
they
think
are
the
best
and
most
important,
and
so
that
takes
us
out
of
it
and
it
puts
it
in
the
hands
of
the
public
to
focus
on
the
things
they
want
to
see.
First
and
then,
obviously
it
has
to
go
through
this
whole
system,
but
I
figured
members
of
the
public
who
are
very
well
versed
in
the
budget
will
be
a
good
first
line.
Yes,.
O
R
A
sorry
two,
two
more
Morris
somebody
I
was
I
was
in
a
forum
the
other
day,
and
somebody
brought
up
that
we
never
raised
the
sidewalk
fee,
the
in
Lua
feet.
We
had
several
conversations
about.
This
is
like
the
the
public
safety
thing.
I.
Just
remember
this
sorry,
but
there.
AA
Was
conversation
and,
and
it
was
frankly,
the
whole
fee
adjustment
was
dropped
when
you
all
closed
the
loophole.
The
issue
with
in
increasing
the
sidewalk
in
Luffy
that
came
up
is
that
the
builders
associate
with
the
amount
that
the
administration
recommended
raising
the
fee
created
issues
with
the
builders
associations,
the
Builders
Association
claimed,
and
there
is
some.
AA
It's
not
abundantly
clear.
I'll,
be
quite
honest
that
the
and
Luffy
is
in
essence
of
impact
fee.
If
it
is
an
impact
fee,
then,
in
order
to
raise
it,
there
are
certain
Hoops
we
have
to
go
through.
So
my
suggestion
is,
if
you
want
to
look
at
that
issue
again,
maybe
the
two,
my
two,
my
two
suggestions
would
be
is
perhaps
have
the
administration
meet
with
the
Builders
Association
again
to
see
if
we
can
come
up
with
come
up
with
a
compromise
raise
in
the
amount?
AA
AA
What
should
I
make
a
motion
for
I
would
make
a
motion
for
the
administration
to
meet
with
the
Builders
Association
and
come
back
with
a
recommendation
on
a
on
an
adjustment
to
the
sidewalk
and
live
feed.
That
would
start
the
conversation
again.
Okay,
I
moved.
B
R
Okay,
one
one
last
last
thing:
the
city
brags
a
lot
about
its
credit
rating
I've
actually
talked
to
people
who
used
to
work
for
credit
rating
agencies,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
will
hurt.
Our
credit
rating
is
if
we
don't
have
a
budget
so
as
I
understand
it
legally.
If
we
don't
approve
a
budget
before
the
end
of
the
month,
then
we
go
into
the
to
the
last
budget,
but
then
that
sends
a
signal
to
the
to
the
bonding
agencies
that
that
something's
wrong.
R
So
I
hope
that
the
as
I
said
before
I
hope
that
the
administration
wants
to
collaborate
and
that
they
want
to
avoid
this.
Just
like
we
would.
The
decision
on
the
ad
valorem
rate
has
already
been
made.
We
are
where
we
are
and
we
need
to
work
together
to
try
to
avoid
that
situation,
but
Morris
I
would
recommend,
because
of
the
noticing
and
everything
I
would
recommend
that
we
set
up
a
backup
meeting
on
September
26th.
R
Hopefully,
hopefully
the
administration
works
with
us,
and
my
ideal
situation
is
that
somebody
in
the
administration
gives
all
the
people
who
voted
no
15
million
each,
that
they
can
save.
They
make
a
motion
and
we
walk
out
in
five
minutes.
But
if
that
doesn't
happen
or
we
don't
come
to
an
agreement,
we
need
a
backup
date
and
we
can't
go
past
the
end
of
the
month.
AA
We
can
set
that
I
believe
on
the
19th
if
we
absolutely
have
to
I
as
I
read
the
statute.
The
only
reason
we
could
ask
for
a
backup
date
is
an
emergency
I.
Guess
we
could
say
a
deadlock
is
an
emergency,
but
typically
what
the
the
legislature
looks
at
is
emergencies
are
things
like
hurricane
Lee
out
in
the
Atlantic
and
that
sort.
R
R
But
could
I
just
suggest
everybody
that
we
hold
that
to
we
did
it
on
Tuesday
and
Wednesday,
but
I
suggest
that
we
do
September
26th
and
we
all
just
hold
that
date.
Even
if
we
don't
officially
make
a
motion
to
hold
it.
B
P
P
R
B
AC
B
B
Association
I
think
we
already
received.
Oh
nothing.
Thank
you
very
much.
So
I
was
this
I'm
thinking
out
loud
I,
don't
make
an
emotion.
Last
year
it
came
up
about
increasing
the
salaries
of
city
council.
It
was
voted
down.
I
was
one
of
those
people
that
voted
it
down
and
we
we
are
stuck
with
the
we
are
stuck.
We
get
a
three
percent
increase
every
year,
correct.
AA
General
believes
the
way
it
works
is
that
if,
if
a
cost
of
living
adjustment
is
made
and
that's
not
mandatory,
but
that
that
happens
more
often
than
not
or
has
typically
outside
of
the
recession
years,
yes,
then
you
would
all
would
get
a
cost
of
living
adjustment.
That's
equal
to
three
percent.
That's
my
is
my
regulation.
What
the
resolution
is.
AA
B
AA
And
just
so,
you
all
the
item
that
councilman
Vera
continued
yeah
is
a
proposed
ordinance
that
would
codify
what
has
been
done
historically
based
on
a
resolution
that
was
done
back
in
I
believe
in
the
90s,
where,
if
the
managerial
staff
of
the
city
got
a
cost
of
living
adjustment,
you
also
got
one,
but
it
was
capped
at
three
percent
of
your
salary,
that's
codified,
and
then
it
also
says
that
if
you,
if
another,
if
if
and
what
the
charter
requires,
is
that
any
adjustment
to
your
salary
or
to
her
salary
that
would
have
to
be
approved
by
a
majority
of
you
all
and
by
the
mayor
both
if
that
happens,
then
that
what
what
councilman
Viera
has
has
requested
that
that
doesn't
take
place
until
the
next
Council
comes
into
session.
R
Yeah
I
was
just
gonna,
say,
I.
Think
city
council
is
paid
way
too
low.
The
the
the
the
the
public
has
said
that
as
well
when
it
the
administration
went
after
me
on
this.
They
they
offered
us
a
an
increase,
I
voted
for
it,
but
then
said:
I
wouldn't
take
it
if
it
went
through
and
then
they
sent
three
mailers
out
of
me
and
guess
what
they
didn't
work.
They
didn't
work,
and
so
they
can
say
whatever
they
want
about
me
doing.
That
and
I
will
Advocate
again.
R
Today.
City
council
needs
to
make
more
money
and
I
I
might
not
accept
it,
but
but
but
here's
the
thing
well
I
tried
to
make
a.
B
B
B
P
No,
no,
no
I
mean
some
people
are
getting
serious
raises.
That's
why
we're
moving
up
from
I
think
it
was
like
46
million
in.
S
P
AA
R
Correct
by
the
way,
the
public,
the
public
agrees
like
as
they
were,
sending
out
those
mailers
people
in
the
public,
every
Forum
I
went
to.
They
said
you're
right,
you
should
support
it
more,
and
so,
if
we
want
good
government
in
the
future,
because
this
is
already
a
full-time
job,
that
is,
is
paid
very
little.
If
we
want
good
government
future,
we
need
to
pass
something,
and
even
if
Lewis's
memo
passes,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
next
city
council
is
paid
more
I'm,
not
I'm,
I'm
termed
out.
R
So
this
is
not
about
me.
It's
about
good
government,
the
mayor's
making
like
180
000
a
year.
Our
aides
are
making
80
or
90
and
city
council
is
making
like
53.
and
that's
not
every
every.
If
you
look
at
all
the
best
governments
in
the
world,
they
all
pay
people
well
in
Singapore
they
pay
the
same
wages
as
the
private
sector,
because
they
don't
want
people
to
steal
anything
and-
and
you
need
you
need
the
public
to
to
to
I
mean
we
had
a.
R
We
had
a
colleague
in
the
past
who
demanded
free
tickets
at
events
when
you
had
to
pay
two
or
three
hundred
dollars
and
and
and
we
need
City
Council
Members
to
not
have
to
ask
for
freebies
and
potentially
break
ethics
rules.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
people
are
paid
well,
so
that
we
can.
We
can
all
look
at
the
public
and
know
that
we're
doing
the
right
thing
it's
expensive
to
be
on
city
council.
We.
N
Thirty
dollars
to
park
today
to
go
to
an
event
that
I
was
invited
to
it,
made
me
really
sad,
the
Marriott
they
went
up
on
their
price
by
five
dollars.
The
fave
Summit,
the
automotive,
Summit
and
I
will
say
that
city
council
makes
less
than
teachers
yeah
and
the
teachers
in
Hillsborough
County
are
ranked
in
the
bottom.
Quartile
of
salaries
in
the
united
teachers
deserve.
N
But
also
paying
a
lot
70
I
think
the
mayor
proposed.
Seventy
thousand
dollars,
or
something
like
that
that
was
I,
was
surprised
that
you
all
rejected
it
and
the
people
rejected
it.
I
actually
would
like
to
hear
on
the
day
is:
why
did
you
reject
it?
Just
for
the
public.
N
We
can't
talk
about
it,
you
can't
talk
about
it,
we.
B
B
B
I
didn't
come
here
for
the
money.
I
knew
what
I
was
getting
into
I
said:
I
can
and
people
told
me
hey,
you
can
make
more
here.
You
know
you
speak
multiple
languages
you
can
go
here.
I
have
committed
to
wanting
to
do
this
since
2010.
That's
when
I
got
involved
in
politics,
I
ran
I
lost
and
it
was
never
about
the
money.
It
was
people
that
inspired
me
to
serve
former
mayor,
dick
Greco
council
member
Charlie,
Miranda
who's
been
here
for
a
long
time.
B
People
that
I
admired
I
wanted
to
give
back
to
my
community
and
I
knew.
Oh,
this
is
a
sign
back.
Then
it
was
like
43.
and
when
I
was
in
college,
when
I
first
thought
about
thought
about
it,
it
was
like
26
and
I
wanted
to
go
to
law,
school
and
everything,
but
I
I
knew
what
I
was
getting
into
I
understand
and
that
was
it
I.
Just
you
know,
and
especially
you
know,
when
people
are
struggling
and
people
are
trying
to
pay
rent
and
everything.
B
N
A
B
Motion
for
City
Planning
staff
to
appear
and
provide
an
update
on
the
housing
needs
assessment
at
the
928
Workshop,
which
is
already
discussing
housing.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions.
I
know
we're
going
to
have
a
major
discussion
here
about
we
you
know.
Housing
needs
is
one
thing
how
we
can
build
more,
how
we
can
increase
the
density,
how
we
can
allow
for
adus
triplexes
quads
everything
that
we
need
to
do
in
adjusting
this
Lane
development
code
to
meet
the
needs
of
of
what
we
have
in
housing:
okay,
okay,.
A
We
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second
Miranda.
A
P
As
well
and
and
so
as
we
look
at
that
budget
for
police
and
fire,
knowing
that
they're
reaching
out
to
the
homeless,
Community
people
who
are
on
the
edge
if
those
people
are
housed,
we
have
they
have
much
less
chance
of
being
called.
So
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there
and
knowing
that,
as
we
put
funding
toward
housing,
we
are
actually
putting
public
putting
funding
toward
Public
Safety.
P
No,
but
I
will
I
will
try
to
talk
about
it.
A
little
bit
on
Wednesday
is.
K
A
So
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
from
councilman
Maniscalco,
a
second
from
councilman
Miranda
and,
let's
see
just
all
those
in
favor
say.