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B
C
Pardon
me
Council,
we
were
of
the
impression
we
weren't
quite
done
with
item
number
eight,
which
got
bundled
with
item
number
one:
okay,.
D
B
C
Yes,
Gene
Duncan
administrator
of
infrastructure
Mobility
when
we
started
out
I
was
offering
to
Circle
back
on
this
part
of
the
two
emotions
to
see
what
your
pleasure
was
after
you
heard
about
the
process
we're
going
to
introduce
with
the
biennial
report.
So
now
you've
heard
that
and
you've
heard
our
comments
and
others
comments.
So
we
just
wanted
to
see
what
your
pleasure
was
in
terms
of
these
additional
hearings
or
approvals
in
terms
of
projects
of
a
certain
dollar
amount.
B
E
E
It
just
allows
more
time
for
the
public,
probably
99
of
them
it
would
just
go
through,
but
and
sorry
the
clerk
I
haven't
written
this
down,
but
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
have
legal
staff
re
return
to
council
with
a
draft
ordinance
that
would
require
contracts
over
20
million
dollars
to
be
discussed
on
the
agenda
two
weeks
before
the
vote
to
approve
the
contract
and
I
need
to
pick
a
date,
but
I
don't
know
what
date.
E
Morris
I
mean
I,
don't
know
if
I'll
get
the
votes,
but
Morris
do
you
is
a
month
enough
on
that
or.
F
At
least
30
days
would
be
helpful.
Maybe
if
you
wouldn't
mind
60,
but
we
can
certainly
prepare
something
and
kind
of
what
we
were
thinking
and
we
we
will
we'll
come
back
and
talk
to
you
about
it
when
we
have
the
draft,
but
the
thought
may
be
that
there
would
be
under
staff
reports,
they
noticed
that
we
are
coming
forward
with
a
proposed
contract
at
the
following.
Caring
was
attached
to
it
the
proposed
contract
so
that
it
was
on
your
agenda.
E
B
H
E
Yeah
I
think
I
made
this
motion.
I
I
read
the
memo,
but
could
you
just
for
the
Public's
sake,
30
seconds,
a
minute
kind
of
summarize
what
what
you
said.
H
Sure
So,
the
motion
had
asked
on
what
to
do
about
unpermitted
structures
throughout
the
city,
and
we
did
give
a
memo.
Basically,
it
talks
about
the
background
of
how
unpermitted
structures
were
originally
handled
prior
to
2021.
It
was
a
coordinated
effort
between
a
little
bit
of
code
enforcement
and
a
little
bit
of
construction
services,
and
then
you
may
recall
We
Came
as
part
of
the
budget,
to
start
what
we
referred
to
as
the
construction
activity.
H
Compliance
team
and
JC
brought
some
changes
related
to
chapter
five
and
we
brought
that
enforcement
of
illegal
construction
back
to
the
Construction
Services
Center,
the
cact
through
a
a
hotline,
here's
complaints
related
to
unpermitted
work
and
they
investigate
those
in
the
memo.
I
talked
about
that,
since
we
launched
in
2022,
they
have
performed
close
to
2
000,
complaint
inspections
and
73
percent
of
these
inspections
became
formal
violations.
H
So
we
start
with
that
investigation
and
then,
if
it
is
determined
that
it
is
work
without
permits,
they
will
issue
a
stop
work
order.
If
work
then
continues
JC
as
the
building
official
has
the
right
to
cut
the
utilities
to
that
building.
In
order
to
know
electric
or
water,
we
pull
both
those
discontinuance
of
utilities,
and
then
we
also
work
on
the
enforcement
of
abandoned
structures
with
code
enforcement,
a
neighborhood
enhancement
and
then
also
those
go
through
the
public.
H
If
they
are
a
nuisance,
then
we
work
on
nuisance
abatement
to
get
rid
of
those
as
well.
A
couple
numbers
I
didn't
include
in
the
memo
is
that
currently
in
in
the
first
year
that
January
2022
to
23,
we
collected
close
to
188
thousand
dollars
in
stop
work,
order,
fees
and
fines,
and
we
collected
195
000
in
work
without
permits
fees
and
fines.
So
this
team
has
been
working
very
diligently
to
bring
that
into
the
construction
services.
H
Ideally,
our
goal
is
to
get
those
people
who
are
out
there
performing
this
work
without
permit
to
get
a
permit
so
that
we
can
then
know
that
what
they
are
constructing
is
safe
and
habitable
if
they're
living
in
it
or
they're
operating
their
business
there.
So
that
is
where
we
currently
are
I
know
through
my
one-on-one
meetings
with
JC.
We
continue
to
look
at
how
we
can
now
now
that
we
have
that
team.
E
So
I,
if
I,
could
just
ask,
follow
it
real
fast.
The
I
think
the
Genesis
of
this
was
that
we
have
so
many
cases,
especially
in
West
Tampa,
where
somebody's
built
an
illegal
structure
and
then
they're
coming
out
to
the
fact
to
get
it
approved
and
kind
of
part
of
the
question
is:
how
do
we?
E
How
do
we
address
those
before
they
come
because
it's
difficult
when
we
have
to
make
a
decision,
especially
if,
if
whoever
built
it
sold
it
to
somebody
else,
the
new
owner
said
I
bought
it
thinking
all
that
was
legal
I
found
out
it's
not,
and
then
we
have
to
tell
them.
They
have
to
kick
part
of
their
family
out
and
tear
down
that
building
or
we
have
to
allow
somebody
to
get
away
with
building
a
legal
structure.
So
do
you
think
that
that
what
you
said
you're
doing
sounds
terrific,
but
is
it
is?
H
Well,
I'll
answer
first
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
JC.
I.
Think
that
you
know,
ultimately,
any
legal
structure
becomes
legal
if
we
get
that
after
the
fact
permit,
but
as
part
of
that
after
the
fact
permit
process.
If
it
is
not
meeting
certain
zoning
regulations
or
other
regulations,
then
they
do
have
to
come
in
for
a
PD
or
a
variance
to
get
the
setback
adjusted.
H
Ultimately,
they'd
have
to
take
that
first
step
and
that
decision
does
come
to
you
and
then
it's
up
to
you
whether
or
not
I
mean
our
goal.
A
lot
of
times
is
not
to
have
them.
Tear
down
the
structure
and
I.
Think
very
few
of
ours
result
in
that,
but
it
is
to
bring
it
into
compliance
and
make
it
it.
Legal
I,
don't
know
necessarily
at
this
time
if
we
would
recommend
any
other
ordinances
in
relation
to
enforcement.
H
I
think
it's
going
tremendously
well
and
we've
done
even
a
series
of
public
service
announcements
announcing
the
team,
letting
people
know
they're
out
there,
so
that
that's
my
response,
but
I'll
ask
JC
if
he
has
anything
he
would
like
to
add
to
that.
I
Good
afternoon,
JC
Hutchison
construction
service
center
manager,
we
would
say
probably
some
of
that
is-
is
that
education
piece
to
let
people
know
what
we're
working
with
with
some
of
the
cras
as
well
is,
is
kind
of
you
know
some
some
simple
questions
to
ask
say:
make
sure
that
they
have
a
a
building
permit,
make
sure
they
have
a
bill.
That's
starting
to
ask
some
of
those
questions
up
front
because,
yes,
we
do
do
with
a
lot
of
those.
It's
been
sold
three
times
and
they
didn't
know
that
it
didn't
have
a
permit.
I
So
then
we're
trying
to
work
within
the
system
to
keep
them
compliant.
So,
as
Abby
mentioned
a
lot
of
those
things
kind
of
overlap,
and
so
we
try
to
work
with
them.
You
know,
because
we're
not
here
to
find
them
is
to
to
find
the
compliance,
and
so
if
we
can
find
it
whether
it
is
through
a
variance
or
something
else,
but
with
homeowners,
a
lot
of
them
just
don't
know
what
needs
a
permit.
So
a
lot
of
it
is
on
the
educational
piece
to
say:
hey
if
you
want
to
close
in
your.
I
You
know
your
carport
or
you
want
to
add
this
to
your
house.
You
need
a
permit
and
it's
just
trying
to
trying
to
work
with
a
lot
of
those
groups
and
neighborhood
associations
to
kind
of
get
that
information
out
there
too,
because
you
know
we
get
a
lot
of
the
influxes
is
usually
after
storms.
When
we
have
the
storm
season
comes
through
and,
and
everybody
comes
in
to
say,
Hey
you
know,
I
can
I
can
fix
your
roof
for
this
or
I
can
fix
your
and
we're
like.
I
No,
you
know
ask
ask
some
of
these
questions
up
front
to
make
sure
you've
got
a
legit
person
out
there
doing
work
on
your
property.
E
One
final
final
comment:
it
seems
like
I,
don't
know
what
how
many
of
these
are
in
what
part
of
the
city,
but
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
the
cases
we
get
are
in
West
Tampa,
and
many
of
them
need
interpreters
and,
and
many
of
them
are
kind
of
new
immigrants,
and
so
to
my
colleagues
who
were
experts
on
West
Tampa,
you
might
get
the
communication
department
or
whatever
to
talk
to
them
about
the
special
ways
to
to
get
the
word
out
to
to
people
who
are
new
to
the
area
or
new
to
the
country
so
that
we
can
and
like
in
South
Tampa.
E
J
One
question:
just
overall,
like
a
ballpark,
how
many
people
do
we
actually
have
to
turn
the
electric
or
the
utilities
off
for
I'm?
Just
wildly
curious,
we've.
I
Last
year
we
coordinate
with
Tico,
we
coordinated
with
the
water
department
and,
like
I
said,
usually
those
are
repeat:
offenders
we've,
given
them
a
stop
work
order.
They
keep
working
on
the
property
they
keep
working
on.
The
property
staff
comes
out
there.
We're
saying
please
stop
working
on
the
property.
Come
get
a
permit.
They're
still
working
on
the
property
in
the
in
the
code.
I
have
to
give
them
30
days.
J
Excellent,
the
I
have
heard
you
talk
about
the
educating
the
homeowners.
What
are
we
doing
to
educate
those
who
work
on
properties
and
I
know
that
can
be
hard
to
find
because
not
all
of
those
folks
are
licensed
or
but
but
how
are
we
getting
the
word
out
to
contractors
and
those
types
to
say,
hey
you
know
come
here.
First
will
save
you
a
lot
of
headache.
H
Right
now
we
just
have
that
initial
PSA
we've
been
getting
the
work
of
the
team
really
underway,
but
that's
definitely
something
I
think
we
could
undertake
here
in
the
future
very
quickly
with
our
Communications
team
and
get
some
other
information
out
both
on
our
website
and
on
CCTV
and
other
outlets.
H
To
share
that
information.
If
you
have
other
recommendations,
I
mean
JC
does
hold,
we
hold
Advisory
Group
meetings
every
quarter.
We
have
one
for
contractors,
we
have
one
for
Architects
and
designers.
We
have
one
for
land
use,
attorneys
and
consultants,
and
we
share
all
of
this
information
and
our
operations
on
an
ongoing
basis
with
those
groups
quarterly.
H
So
I
think
that
also
is
an
outlet
for
how
we're
currently
communicating
what
is
going
on
and
and
the
services
and
when
we
launched
the
cact
I
know
that
we
did
share
that
with
those
groups
which
are
the
GCS
and
the
others,
but
I
know
you're
pointing
out
a
gap.
Those
who
are
not
licensed
and
may
be
performing
the
work,
and,
in
addition
to
that,
the
fraud
hotline,
which
is
part
of
this
team,
they
they
did
have
cases
that
they
took
to
court
for
people
who
were
not
licensed
and
were
performing
work.
Great.
J
J
K
Councilman
Miranda,
thank
you
chairman,
thanks
for
the
work
you've
done
and
the
the
intense
effort
to
do
what's
right,
the
the
question
about
water
electricity
gets
me
in
the
heart
about
not
the
people,
but
do
we
know
if
there's
kids
living
in
that
house
do
we
know
what
the
need
is
or
the
house
vacant
at
that
time?
That's
one
thing,
but
if
a
house
we've
got
two
or
three
kids
and
we're
going
to
turn
off
the
water
and
the
electric.
H
K
At
in
other
words,
what
we
want
to
do
is
prevent
the
ultimate
from
getting
worse
right
and
if
we
don't
change
the
system,
it's
going
to
get
worse.
So
the
system,
in
my
mind,
has
got
to
be
tweaked
and
changed
and,
in
fact,
I
remember
way
back
when
some
other
Administration
wanted
anybody
that
drove
a
city
car
that
they
saw
something
and
say
some
saw
something
say
something:
no
one's
ever
done
it
that
I
know
of
that's
another
problem
that
we
have.
K
So
are
we
fighting
an
upstream
battle
to
catch
fish,
and
it's
just
it's
amazing
that
we're
not
working
within
our
own
system
to
solve
the
problem.
This
problem
is
more
likely,
half
and
half
to
thinking
that
they
can't
afford
a
permit.
I,
don't
know
the
thinking
that
some
friends
are
going
to
help
them
out.
I,
don't
know
the
thinking
that
the
system
they
come
from,
another
city
who
knows
where
they
come
from,
maybe
where
they
come
from
the
country,
they
don't
need
a
permit
and
they
do
that
and
the
language
barriers.
K
K
It's
like
saying
well,
the
fire
department's
only
going
right.
Well,
there's
a
five
five-story
building
burning.
You
know
they
don't
do
that
they
go
and
check
everything,
I,
don't
care.
If
you
call
them,
they
show
up
whether
it's
a
fire
or
not.
They
try
to
make
sure
that
that
building
is
not
going
to
burn
and
we're
not
doing
that
here.
H
So
councilman
Marina,
if
I,
can
just
reply
to
that
I
do
want
to
say
that
prior
to
us,
consolidating
and
having
this
team
when
code
enforcement
would
cite
someone
for
the
work
it
would
take.
21
days
from
the
time
the
complaint
was
filed
to
the
time
the
stop
work
order
was
being
issued
and
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
looked
at
this
and
brought
it
back
into
development
services,
because
we
now
can
do
it
in
a
matter
of
days.
H
So
we
have
made
that
Improvement,
JC
and
I
are
also
talking
gearing
up
for
the
budget
for
next
year
and
looking
at
other
Alternatives
about
looking
at
staggered,
work
schedules
having
some
of
our
inspections
and
other
people
look
at
a
Tuesday
through
Friday
or
Saturday,
and
how
we're
going
to
continue
to
increase
those
services.
So.
K
That's
fine
because
the
only
thing
I
see
here,
where
not
proactive,
we're
reactive
and
unless
you
change
the
system,
when
somebody
moves
in-
and
you
don't
know
when
they
move
in
or
not
when
they
change
the
water,
I
guess
to
build
change
into
water
building.
That
means
somebody
else
is
volcano
the
electric
bill.
Maybe
we
should
send
them
a
letter
on
things
you
can
and
cannot
do
in
both
languages,
we're
not
doing
anything
to
prevent
it.
We're
going
after
after
the
war's
finished.
K
We
show
up
and
say
here
I'm
going
to
save
you
guys
it's
too
late
and
most
times
you
try
to
help
them
out.
At
that
point
they
started
something
they
don't
have
the
resources
to
hire
an
engineer
to
give
them
a
drawing
of
what
you
want.
They
got
to
tear
the
building
down
and
the
losses
to
a
young
family
or
an
older
family
or
whatever
family
in
today's
society.
I
want
to
try
to
stop
it
before
it
starts.
J
Along
those
lines,
thank
you
and
councilman
Miranda
for
bringing
up
the
code
enforcement
Port
part
I
was
just
at
an
Ybor
city
parking
meeting
where
that
was
another
thing
to
discuss,
so
I
would
love
to
bring
that
back
to
talk
about
code
enforcement
being
able
to
work
24
7
somehow,
because,
as
with
Construction
Services,
people
will
do
things
at
all
hours
of
the
day.
Maybe
it
wasn't
a
huge
problem
before,
but
now
with
everything
that's
going
on
our
city,
how
much
we've
grown.
L
L
You
can't
have
the
same
Playbook
plays
if
things
change
to
get
a
different
strategy,
I'm
glad
you're.
Looking
at
your
your
your
budget
touched
on
something
you
hear
me
show
all
the
time.
I
said
you
know:
every
employee
in
the
city,
you're
fired
your
police,
the
ones
that
are
driving
those
cars.
L
If
I
can
drive
in
my
in
my
district
and
I
can
go
down.
37Th,
Street
and
I
can
see
all
this
trash
on
the
side
of
the
roadway
and
I
can
call
it
in
or
I
can
take
a
photo
and
send
it
to
CT
how?
How
can
our
other
employees
that
are
out
there
driving
City
vehicles
are
trash,
our
trash,
our
Solid
Waste
guys
they
see
more
than
anything
or
you're
driving.
You
see
houses
that
are
Banning.
L
You
know
why
don't
we
have
again
some
type
of
hang
tag
or
you'll
be
able
to
call
that
in
or
have
a
number
or
have
something
to
be
able
to
put
it
on
a
system.
Hey
this
road.
Has
this
this
try
to
trash,
or
you
see
a
dilapidated
house
that
needs
roof
repair.
You
see
the
other
lady
out
there
sitting
on
the
porch
and
the
house
is
about
to
fall,
but
we
don't
call
that
in,
but
yet
she
don't
know
who
to
call
for
help.
L
These
are
the
things
as
a
city
that
we
have
to
be
proactive
to
do,
which
is
to
reactive.
When
the
house
is
falling
down
and
the
neighbors
are
down
the
street
calling
hey,
we
got
Miss
Jones,
who's,
nine
years
old
and
no
one's
trying
to
help
her.
But
yet
we
drive
down
that
street
every
day.
I
see
Mrs
Jones
house
and
no
one
say
anything
about
Miss
Jones
same
thing.
With
the
you
know,
Construction
Services
I
mean
you
know.
L
We
see
stuff,
we
don't
see
the
signs
out
with
her
I
can
remember
one
time:
Miss
Miranda
when
I
was
a
policeman
I
didn't
know
you
had
to
have
a
permit
to
do
a
roof.
Didn't
know
that
so
I
I
hired
a
company
to
do
the
roof.
So
when
I
hired
you
I
hired
you
to
pull
the
protocol
was
necessary,
so
they're
working
a
couple
days
later,
I
get
a
notice.
L
What
am
I
doing
I
mean
what
are
you
talking
about
all
right,
didn't
know
so
I
think
when
we
educate
the
public
a
lot
of
time,
the
public
don't
know
themselves
or
the
dues
and
the
don'ts
of
what
to
do
and
how
to
do
it.
But
I
always
say
if
they
have
some
information
or
we
see
something
we
can
be
able
to
give
people
information
to
call
in
and
I
want
to
believe
that
code
enforcement
hours
should
be
changed
a
little
bit
because
things
happen
at
night.
L
K
In
fact,
there's
another
way
we
can
send
a
message
without
very
little
cost
or
no
cost
at
all.
When
we
send
out
the
water
bills,
there's
an
insert
in
there
1974,
there
was
only
a
postcard
and
a
little
sticky.
You
took
it
off
and
you
mailed
it
up,
but
the
other
side
was
black
and
we
started
a
change.
We
put
at
least
the
emergency
numbers
behind
that
and
it
worked.
It
helped
a
lot
of
people
and
I.
Maybe
we
could
suggest
something
to
the
administration.
K
You
guys
are
doing
this
to
put
in
both
languages
again
just
a
form
letter
saying
if
you've
got
to
fix
your
house,
here's
what
you
need
to
do
basic
things
so
that
they
at
least
have
a
number
to
call,
so
they
can
at
least
talk
to
someone.
They
don't
know
what
they're
doing
I'm
not
taking
on
their
side,
but
on
the
side
of
being.
K
As
close
to
saying
you
know,
forgiveness
is
after
the
thought,
but
let's
give
them
a
an
Avenue
so
that
they
don't
have
to
be
forgiven
that
they
realize
what
they
have
and
they
can
fix
it.
If
we
can
send
something
out,
maybe
in
two
languages,
I'm
not
saying
you've
got
to
do
that
that
way.
However,
you
all
think
you
run
the
department
we
don't
but
send
it
in
with
a
water
bill.
The
water
bill,
I,
don't
think
the
cost
is
going
to
be
anything
increased,
maybe
a
couple
of
cents
of
anything
at
all.
K
It's
already
high
enough,
but
when
you
said
that
you
can
send
another
message
inside
that
water
bill,
and
that
goes
to
a
lot
of
people
in
and
out
of
the
city.
So
thank
you
very
much
I
appreciate.
If
you
take
down
the
consideration
and
working
with
the
water
department
and
see
if
we
can
work
together
and
get
it
done.
M
But
he's
he's
responsive
and
you
know,
there's
the
officers
aren't
on
the
street
working
and
you
know
things
get
remedied
the
next
day,
the
next
business
day.
Another
thing
that
was
also
brought
up
was-
and
somebody
stopped
me
the
other
day,
and
they
said
you
know:
I
have
city
city
vehicles
coming
up
and
down
the
street
and
there
was
it
was
like
furniture
dump.
M
Do
anything
they
didn't
do
anything
so
when
we
talked
about
a
proactive
approach,
why
I
don't
know
when
the
policy
was
initiated
that
you
know
if
a
code
enforcement
officer
seized
something
that
they,
you
know
put
it
in
the
system
and
whatever
I
think?
That's.
That's
also
helpful,
because
folks
are
frustrated
and
again
everything
else
has
been
said
so
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Mr.
L
Brandon
you
touched
on
somebody
talked
about
that
dreaded
water
bill
I
made
mention
that
a
couple
times
about
the
water
bill
see
what
happened
with
the
water
bill
and
I
talked
to
chuckling
about
it.
Before
is
that
you
know
they
got
to
process
how
they
process
their
water.
Listen
when
you
get
the
water
bill.
The
first
thing
that
a
customer
looks
at.
They
don't
look
at
nothing.
They
want
to
see
how
much
my
bill
is.
L
The
first
thing
you
see
how
much
the
bills
and
then
everything
else
is
thrown
in
the
garbage,
so
I
said
well.
Why
can't
we
put
the
the
the
the
the
amount
of
the
bill
someplace
else
other
than
the
first
thing
you
see,
and
that
way
people
be
able
to
read
the
information.
That's
really
important
to
the
city
because
they
got
to
get
to
it,
but
most
people
they
open
that
bill
up.
They
look
at
numbers.
L
You'll
see
that
first
Top
Line
how
much
my
water
bill
is
and
the
rest
of
them
are
going
to
garbage
and
I
can
tell
you
I've
done
it
several
times
they
supposed
to
be
inserted
in
there
I
miss
how
much
the
bill
is.
Okay,
so
you're
right,
you
have
a
better
way
of
communicating
the
water
bill
could
be
away,
but
that
that
dollar
amount
can't
be
on
the
front
page.
It's
got
to
be
someplace
else.
K
It
just
won't
come
in
I.
Think.
Let
me
solve
your
problem
you're
going
to
ask
the
water
department
to
do
what
I
did
and
tell
them
to
take
it
out
of
your
checking
account
or
whatever
it
is
every
month,
and
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
it
because
I
one
day,
I
did
the
same
thing.
He
did
then
I
got
a
bill
said
well,
I
know,
I
paid
it
and
I
checked
I
had
paid
it.
I
had
thrown
it
out,
so
I
I
understand
what
you're
saying
so.
K
B
Anyone
else
there
there
are
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
just
don't
know
don't
know
what
to
do.
We've
been
discussing
that
and
and
information
is
key,
and
there
are
some
people
out
there
that
are
good
people
to
just
do
bad
things,
try
and
skate
around
the
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be
done.
B
I
I
said
this.
At
the
last
budget
hitting
hearing
we
need
more
Staffing,
you
go
all
the
way
from
fire
police
code
enforcement
inspection
permitting.
The
city
is
growing.
We
need
more
Staffing,
but
getting
back
to
those
those
good
people
that
just
try
and
skirt
the
issue
code
enforcement
has
a
problem
actually
has
two,
because
now
we're
preempted
by
the
state,
no
one
can
call
in
anonymously,
and
that
scares
people,
because
their
name
is
going
to
be
on
the
record
and
they
don't
want
whether
it
be
their
next-door
neighbor.
B
Someone
down
the
street
coming
and
harassing
them
for
that
code
enforcement
cannot
enter
a
property
that
is
fenced
code.
Enforcement
cannot
see
something
that
may
be
happening
behind
that
fence.
So
this
this
is
going
to
be
it
ever
organic
thing
that
needs
to
be
taken.
Care
of
but
miss
feely.
Thank
you
both
for
for
giving
this
report
today.
Is
there
anybody
in
Chambers
that
would
like
to
speak
to
agenda
item
number
two.
N
Foreign,
you
know
that
that
is
something
that
comes
up
as
a
real
estate,
professional,
that's
what
I
actually
do.
This
is
all
the
centers
from
volunteering,
but
as
a
real
estate
professional
one
of
the
things
I
do
when
I'm
looking
at
a
home
that
has
a
lot
of
recent
Renovations
is
as
a
professional,
it's
my
duty
to
check
for
a
recent
permit,
and
so
without
maybe
a
nudge
to
real
estate
professionals
to
remind
them
there's
a
lot.
N
I
know:
West,
Tampa,
Seminole,
Heights
and
even
some
cases,
and
even
in
South
Tampa
I've
seen
an
influx
of
situations
where
they
did
not
necessarily
pull
a
permit,
and
sometimes
the
house
has
been
sold
two
three
times,
but
as
a
professional,
we
should
as
real
estate
professionals.
That
should
be
one
of
the
first
three
things
we
check
when
they're
actually
interested
in
a
particular
property.
My
concern,
though,
in
addition
to
that,
is
where
the
people
did
go
through
the
process.
N
I
had
some
people
they've
hired
a
professional,
they
pulled
an
actual
permit
and
they
received
a
new
roof,
but
the
inspector
that
came
out
never
got
out
the
car
they
inspected
it
from
the
car
and
so
days
later,
maybe
I
would
say.
Nine
days
later,
Sears
was
hired
to
put
on
the
roof
for
the
senior
they
put
the
roof
on
nine
days
later
they
got
a
violation
from
code
enforcement.
The
roofer
never
did
the
back
of
the
roof.
The
actual
order
said
it's
going
to
be
five
thousand
dollars.
N
The
actual
bill
came
back
twenty
five
thousand
dollars,
but
they
never
covered
the
rear
and
code
enforcement
saw
the
rear
of
the
home
I,
don't
know
how
they
saw
it,
how
they
knew
from
the
street.
What
was
wrong,
but
the
inspector
never
got
out
of
the
car
and
how
we
found
out
was
the
problem.
Was
they
couldn't
get
homeowners
insurance
and
that's
from
Tampa
Heights
to
East
Tampa
I've,
seen
it
not
the
same
roofer,
but
the
same
situation
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
inspections?
N
If
that's
new,
you
don't
have
to
get
out
your
car
to
inspect
the
roof,
but
a
lot
of
they
won't
get
on
top
of
the
roof
at
all
to
check
it.
They
walk
around
the
house
if
they
do
get
out,
and
some
of
them
check
it
from
in
the
car
and
that's
a
concern
for
me
as
a
professional,
but
then
some
of
the
people
that
they
did
call
the
professional
they
did
get
an
actual
route.
N
But
the
actual
inspector
that
works
under
the
auspices
of
the
city
does
not
get
out
of
their
car
and
it
may
have
recently
changed
I,
don't
know,
but
I
know
that
I
have
at
least
10
examples
of
where
they
did
not
get
out
of
the
car
or
they
did
not
get
on
the
roof.
They
didn't
even
walk
around
the
entire
home
to
check
the
actual
roof
and
how
we
found
out
is
either
one
they
couldn't
get
in
insurance
or
two
code
enforcement
knocked
on
their
door.
Thank
you.
L
Elaborate
on
that,
because
I
I've
seen
that
happen
too,
and
what
she's
saying
I
can
validate
I've
seen
that
happen.
So
is
there
a
policy?
What
is
the
procedure
for
the
inspector,
because
I
I've
heard
that
more
than
once
well.
I
I'm
not
specifically
familiar
with
that
one.
What
we've
started
to
initiate
lately
is
what's
called
virtual
inspections
by
affidavit
because
of
the
the
threat
of
Staff
getting
on
the
roof
and
hurting
themselves.
We
provide
a
checklist
that
we
then
give
to
the
roofer
and
they
have
to
give
us
pictures
of
all
of
those
things.
So
if
we
need
to
see
where
the
Scupper
is,
we
need
to
see
that
the
drip
edge
was
done
correctly.
I
They
take
pictures
of
each
of
those,
and
then
we
review
it
from
the
from
the
car
and
if
we
need
to
get
out,
then
we
will
get
out,
but
we'll
have
the
pictures
to
tell
us
what
we
need,
so
staff
doesn't
have
to
get
on
a
roof.
So
ideally,
I
can
get
that
specific
one
from
her
and
follow
up
on
that
one
specifically,
but
over
the
last
six
months.
B
I
So
when
we
do
it,
we
tell
them
to
take
a
picture
from
the
street,
so
they
have
to
confirm
that
that's
the
house
they
have
to
have
to
the
the
address
in
the
in
the
picture.
So
we
look,
we
asked
for
a
series
of
photos
and
then
we
confirm
it
and
it
also
has
to
be
date
stamped.
So
they
can't
just
take
a
picture
and
just
submit
the
same
one
up
under
each
roof.
So
we
we
check
for
that
and,
like
I
said,
we
reviewed
the
plans.
I
J
I
mean
I
understand
that
we
are
understaffed
and
we
we
need
to
use
technology
it
really
that
does
make
me
uncomfortable,
but
I
was
asking
or
I'm
curious
if
there's
possibly
a
way
that
if
everybody
who
goes
through
that,
do
you
by
chance
like
randomly
decide
to
say
pop
on
to
a
roof
randomly
that,
even
though
they
get
the
photos
you're
like
well,
you
know
I'm
just
going
to
pull
this
one
out
of
a
hat
today
and
actually
go
inspect
it
myself.
Well,.
I
The
staff
still
has
to
physically
go
to
the
aside.
So,
even
though
we
have
the
virtual
to
get
the
pictures,
that's
the
that's
preventing
the
staff
from
having
to
be
on
the
roof,
but
we
check
them
all.
We
have
to
okay,
so
it's
not
that
they
get
away.
They
can
do
that
and
then
we
don't
have
to
check
it.
I
H
H
Much
like
a
recent
presentation,
I
made
to
you
collectively
with
Vic
veide
and
Whit
reamer
on
EV
parking
and
charging
here
today
with
Whit
and
JC.
To
give
you
a
overall
presentation
on
our
Green
Building
initiatives,
ordinance
the
cities,
and
can
you
bring
up
the
presentation,
please?
H
The
city's
original
Green
Building
ordinance
was
passed
in
2008.
It
was
done
to
encourage
resource
conservation,
reduce
the
waste
generated
by
construction,
increase,
Energy
Efficiency
and
promote
the
health
and
productivity
of
residents,
workers
and
visitors,
and
today
we're
going
to
discuss
the
historical
background,
our
current
code,
incentives
that
we
have
as
well
as
incentives
in
other
cities
and
then
some
recommendations
that
we
have
for
you.
One
thing
Council
touched
on
already
this
morning.
That's
very
much.
H
The
fact
is
why
I
brought
this
up
that
our
Green
Ordinance
was
in
08,
so
that
times
change
technology,
changes,
growth
patterns,
change,
the
ability
to
use
other
appliances
or
solar
or
all
these
things
change.
In
fact,
recently,
there
was
a
building
code
change
that
now
only
requires
a
certain
air
conditioning
sear
to
be
used.
That
Builders
can
no
longer
use
a
lesser
Sears.
H
So
all
these
things
are
changing
and
that's
where
some
of
our
recommendations
come
into
you
today
on
what's
kind
of
brought
us
forward
from
2008
now
to
2023
and
we
are
going
to
cover
next
slide.
Please
sorry!
This
was
just
the
motion.
H
Oh
do
I
need
to
do
it
got
it
here
were
the
Motions,
the
motion
that
was
made
and
we
have
been
working
to
come
together
and
work
on
this,
both
from
our
sustainability
and
resiliency
side
with
Whit,
as
well
as
our
construction
side
with
JC,
in
order
to
provide
a
comprehensive
approach
to
what's
going
on
we're
going
to
talk
with
you
today
about
the
green
Fast,
Track
program,
incentives
to
encourage
sustainable
construction
and
then
City
funded
construction
and
renovation
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over,
to
wit
and
then
JC,
and
hopefully
this
won't
be
too
long
and
we'll
cover
some
good
information
for
you.
D
Thanks
Abby
afternoon,
chair
council
members,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
current
green
Fast
Track
program,
I'm,
going
to
talk
about
City,
funded
projects
and
the
requirement
for
green,
lead,
silver
certification
and
then
the
ordinance
with
relation
to
the
incentive.
So
the
green
fastac
program.
This
was
an
administratively
created
kind
of
worksheet
that
has
been
around
for
many
years.
I
think
my
my
predecessor,
Tom
Snelling,
probably
worked
with
the
building
department
to
put
this
together
and
it's
it's
a
checklist
that
you
can
go
in
and
provide
alongside
your
permit
application.
D
There
are
two
paths
that
a
applicant
can
pursue:
one
is
for
commercial
structures
out
of
over
5000
feet
and
that
those
require
third
party
certification
that
would
be
in
this
instance,
the
Florida
Green
Building
Coalition,
or
the
U.S
Greenville
Building
Council
for
commercial
projects
under
5
000
square
feet
and
for
residential
homes,
there's
kind
of
a
self-reported
checklist
and
you
can
go
and
check.
I
have
energy,
efficient
windows,
I
have
low
flush
appliances
and
the
point
of
doing
this
is
the
idea
of
creating
this.
This
this
program
was
to
expedite
permit
processing.
D
After
a
review
of
the
utilization
of
this
program,
we
found
that
it's,
it's
not
used
really
at
all
and
we've
kind
of
struggled
to
determine
the
exact
reason
for
that.
But
but
I
think
the
reason
that
we're
really
happy
to
to
report
today
is
because
JC
and
his
team
are
actually
already
pretty
quick
at
providing
those
first
round
of
comments
and
and
processing
the
permits.
D
The
other
kind
of
compounding
factor
is
there's
a
state
law
that
requires
his
shop
to
turn
around
comments,
30
days
for
residential
and
120
days
for
commercials.
So
again,
this
was
I
think,
probably
a
good
idea
when
it
was
created.
Probably,
when
that
shop
wasn't
processing
applications,
maybe
as
fast
given
the
technology,
that's
come
alongside
of
excela,
so
that
is
that
is
the
green
Fast
Track
program.
In
a
nutshell,
the
second
kind
of
Green
Building
incentive
program
that
I
wanted
to
raise.
D
Your
attention
is
found
in
chapter
17,
and
this
was
put
into
place
in
2008
by
ordinance,
and
this
requires
All
City
funded
construction
to
pursue
lead
silver
certification
unless
there's
some
type
of
administrative
determination
that
doing
so
would
be
cost
and
effective.
So
there
hasn't
been
prior
to-
and
you
saw
the
great
eight
this
morning-
a
lot
of
new
construction
of
City
buildings
in
the
last
decade.
But
we're
doing
a
lot
of
that
now
and
I'm
happy
to
report
that
ordinance
is
finally
working.
You
know
we
applied
it
to
Hanna
Avenue.
D
Hopefully
we're
going
to
get
well
above
lead
silver,
but
that'll
be
a
minimum
requirement
that
was
put
into
the
original
RFP
for
for
any
construction
or
a
substantial
renovation,
and
that
usually
triggers
at
50
of
the
of
the
building
for
for
lead,
silver
or
an
equivalent
standard.
D
We're
also
pursuing
lead
silver
at
the
East
Tampa
rec
center
and
again
this
is
just
kind
of
getting
ahead
of
these
projects
and
ultimately
we're
using
City
funds.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
providing
Energy
Efficiency,
which
saves
money
in
the
long
run
and,
of
course,
happy
places
for
people
to
work
with
and
play
healthy
and
happy
places
for
people
to
work
on
the
planet.
D
Finally,
I
want
to
touch
on
part
of
that
ordinance,
that
is
probably
one
of
the
most
powerful
ones,
but
is
least
utilized
right
now
and
I'll
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
why
this
is.
This
is
section
175
204
and
it
establishes
a
process
for
partial
rebates
for
permit
fees.
D
Importantly,
this
relies
on
annual
budget
Appropriations
and
unfortunately,
we
can't
use
construction
enhancement
fees
to
fund
that,
based
on
our
research,
since
this
has
been
an
ordinance
since
2008
no
Administration
has
ever
proposed
it
in
a
budget
to
be
funded
and
I.
Don't
think
that
city
council
has
pardon.
D
D
This
is
a
program
that
is
kind
of
analogous
to
lead
in
usgbc
and
we'll
probably
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
relationship
with
that
group
and
how
we
don't
think,
that's,
maybe
as
an
effective
certifying
agency
as
as
usgbc
for
a
new
commercial
or
multi-family
residential,
some
pretty
significant
rebates
here,
if
you
pursue
lead,
Platinum
certification,
80
of
your
rebate,
60
at
Gold
40
at
Silver
and
20
for
certified.
D
So
you
know
for
some
of
the
bigger
new
construction.
You
could
have
several
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
permit
fees,
and
so
this
could
be
a
real
incentive
for
folks
to
to
spend
a
little
bit
more
money
on
the
lead.
Certification
again,
for
those
that
aren't
familiar
lead
is
leadership
and
energy
and
environmental
design,
and
it's
a
very
strict,
robust
protocol
that
goes
above
and
beyond
the
base.
Building
code.
D
Florida
has
an
incredibly
strong
building
code
and
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
why
we're
kind
of
concentrating
on
the
commercial
side
rather
and
the
multi-family
residential,
rather
than
the
single-family
residential.
The
next
part
of
the
presentation
which
my
colleague
JC
will
cover.
I
Good
afternoon
again,
JC
Hutchison
construction
service
center
manager.
So
since
we
started
the
research
here
for
the
Acela
system
going
through
to
confirm,
what's
what's
lead
certified
and
what
Isn't
So
based
off
of
the
usgbc
United
States
Green,
Building
Council,
there's
302
buildings
in
the
Tampa
currently,
that
are
at
least
Leed
certified.
I
So
for
us
it's
it's
good
that
people
are
doing
this
without
being
coerced
we're
not
we're
not
even
adding
you
know,
necessarily
advertising
the
rebate
as
much,
and
we
still
have
302
buildings
over
the
last
I
believe
it's
10
years,
the
last
10
years
that
that
have
gone
through
this
next
total,
total
okay.
I
And
so,
as
you
can
see,
you
have
Sky
Center,
Metropolitan,
Ministries,
so
different
sizes
and
scales
of
projects
that
are
that
are
at
least
being
city,
U.S
Lee
certified
one
of
the
things
we
also
did
I
reached
out
to
the
building
officials
and
development
groups
and
other
jurisdictions.
Just
you
know,
we
just
say:
hey
are
you?
What
are
you
doing?
I
We
were
just
curious
to
see
so
the
only
two
cities
that
we
know
in
the
Bay
Area
with
Largo
and
St
Petersburg
provided
bonus
density
if
you
use
Link,
Green
Building,
but
most
other
jurisdictions.
Don't
now
the
the
tie.
There
is
with
the
building
code
technically
per
state
statute,
I
have
to
issue
the
building
code
and
the
same
permit
fee
for
everyone.
I
So
the
recommendations
sun
setting
the
fast
track
program.
Some
of
that
is
to
evaluate
to
look
at
it
to
make
sure
that
you
know.
Are
we
reaching
the
right
group?
Is
that
coordinated?
Can
it
be
coordinated
better,
as,
as
Whit
mentioned,
revising
chapter
17
just
trying
to
make
sure
that's,
that's
better
spelled
out,
and
obviously,
as
we've
done
this
research
and
as
I
just
mentioned,
we
have
to
provide
a
allocation
somewhere.
I
So
there
will
be
a
request
to
in
the
current
budget
for
an
allocation
to
have
money
for
that,
because,
like
I
said
as
a
state,
when
we
issue
the
permit
fees,
I
can't
I
can't
take
out
of
that
money
to
provide
a
rebate
back.
I
have
to
have
a
fund
to
be
able
to
do
so.
So
we
think
a
lot
of
times.
We've
had
not
a
lot
of
buy-in
to
it.
It's
because
there
was
never
a
fund
set
aside
to
do
so.
I
It
was
it
was
put
in
the
code
to
do
it,
and
then
it
was
just
never
funded.
So
we
believe
adding
these
three
things
together
will
be
able
to
provide
us
a
way
to
be
able
to
further
incentivize
these
options.
M
H
Vehicles,
Abby,
feely,
I'm.
Sorry,
that's
going
to
be
coming
back
before
you
in
the
January
text,
Amendment
cycle,
based
on
the
workshop.
We
did
a
few
months.
O
G
B
Else,
I
just
got
a
couple
quick
questions
very
quickly.
Are
there
any
other
cost
neutral
incentives
that
could
be
considered
instead
of
partial,
permit
rebates,
but
I.E?
Don't
density
bonus
bonuses,
reduction
of
impact
fees
expended
permitting
expedited
permitting,
and
how
was
this?
How
is
this
program
that
you're
just
talking
about
now
going
to
be
tracked?
Will
we
be
able
to
give
us
quarterly
reports
on
how
well
it's
doing
oh
sure,
so.
I
Part
of
the
Acela
system,
one
of
the
updates
is
to
for
the
when
you're
the
applicant
is
to
say
that
I
am
applying
for
a
lead.
So
then,
therefore,
from
that
point
forward,
we'll
be
able
to
track
it,
we
won't
have
to
go
to
a
separate
site.
We
can
pull
per
the
month
per
the
week
for
the
year
and
we'll
be
able
to
provide
that
information
back
to
you
right
now.
We
kind
of
have
to
search
and
do
another
level
of
search.
I
It
literally
has
to
be
in
the
summary
that
they,
you
know,
you're
telling
us
the
scope
of
work
and
then
we're
doing
a
keyword,
search,
which
is
a
lot
harder
so
now
it'll
be
separated.
As
a
separate
box,
you
check
the
box
similar
that
we
have
one
for
affordable
housing.
If
it's
affordable
housing
project,
he
gets
a
check.
So
then
we
know,
like
I,
said
we
make
sure
we
stay
on
top
of
our
timelines
to
provide
service
on
those.
H
Just
to
add
on
that,
and
then
what
we
do
is
we
run
reports
on
that,
so
we'll
be
able
to
tell
you
and
that's
that's
how
we
know
right
now
how
many
new
multi-family
units
came
online,
how
many
of
those
multi-family
units
were
affordable?
We'll
do
the
same
thing.
The
goal
for
our
discussion
was,
you
know
we
realized
this
had
not
been
funded
and
so
working
together
and
and
going
back
to
the
administration
to
inform
them
and
then
looking
at
funding
it
for
the
fiscal
year
24
budget
and
then
how
would
that
work?
H
So
if
we
were
going
to
start
with
the
request
for
the
500
000,
that
would
be
250
000
for
commercial
and
250
000
for
multi-family,
and
it
is
a
first
come
first
serve
within
a
period
of
time
of
that
building
getting
Co.
They
have
to
get
their
certification
and
come
back
to
us
and
then
they
would
receive
the
rebate.
The
rebate
would
be
up
to
25
000
of
their
permit
fee.
H
It
would
go
based
on
those
percentages
and
their
certification
with
a
maximum
of
25
000.,
based
on
the
500
000
that
could
yield
us
potentially
20
new
projects
a
year
that
would
be
able
to
facilitate
using
this
project
using
this
program.
So
that's
where
we
are
right
now
in
the
midst
of
starting
to
construct
that
and
put
that
together
in
a
way
that
it
would
fall
into
the
fiscal
year.
24.
K
Just
one
last
thing:
if
I
made
just
I'm
just
thinking
out
of
the
box
and
any
one
of
you
three
maybe
can
help
you
in
this.
What
a
in
any
construction
that
is
going
on,
how
can
we
facilitate
and
put
solar
into
the
mix
where
the
developer
or
the
homeowner
can
put
silver
get
a
rebate
of
some
kind
like
what
they
do
when
they
built
a
bonus
provision
when
you're,
building,
something
and
so
forth,
and
so
on?
Is
there
any
way
of
doing
that.
D
All
right
sure,
so,
thankfully,
last
November,
the
U.S
Congress
passed
the
unfortunately
named
inflation
reduction
act
because
it
doesn't
really
reflect
all
the
all
the
great
green
and
clean
energy
renewable
energy
Provisions
that
are
in
that
bill,
but
the
the
best
way
to
encourage
solar
right
now
is
through
that
30
tax
credit
that's
available
through
the
through
the
federal
government.
D
We
also
and
I'm
actually
happy
that
you
brought
that
up,
because
I
wanted
to
bring
in
our
colleagues
from
the
solar,
United
neighbors
who
councilman
Miranda,
facilitated
the
solar
on
your
house.
They
want
to
do
a
report
for
their
latest
Co-op
and
provide
you
guys
some
numbers
for
what
their
goals
were
getting
solar
in
here
through
the
co-op
model
in
Tampa.
So
there
is
a
financial
incentive
available
through
the
federal
government
in
terms
of
the
building
code.
D
You
know:
Florida
has
a
very,
very
strong
building
code
with
regards
to
Energy
Efficiency
and
that's
that's
very
helpful
for
new
construction
and
retrofits.
You
know
the
best
thing
that
we
can
do
to
reduce
energy
is
is
through
Energy
Efficiency
and
then
once
you've
done.
All
that
putting
solar
on
is
a
great
Next
Step.
K
H
So
right
now,
I
was
just
actually
working
with
the
Planning
Commission
last
Friday
afternoon
about
the
bonus
density
and
and
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
that
as
part
of
the
plan
update,
because,
as
you
know,
right
now,
the
state
State
requires
we
have
a
gray
water
bonus
and
we
did
used
to
have
lead
as
an
option.
It
wasn't
specific
to
solar,
but
it
was
specific
to
lead.
H
So
we
are
currently
in
those
discussions
and
looking
predominantly
at
restructuring
our
bonus
to
be
supporting
and
and
promoting
affordable
housing
that
is,
first
and
foremost
and
and
there's
several
branches
to
how
that's
happening
right
now,
in
that
discussion
and
I'm
actually
going
to
have
a
follow-up
with
Melissa
zornita
next
week
to
to
talk
about
that
structure
of
what
that
means.
So
environmental
we
do.
We
have
talked
about
sustainability
and
resiliency,
which
would
include
that
and
I
will
definitely
keep
it
at
the
top
of
our
decision.
K
And
Abby
thanks
again
for
bringing
up,
affordable
housing,
that's
a
great
way
of
reducing
somebody's
payment
on
the
house,
because
it's
something
less
that
they
have
to
deal
with
right
and
it
just
it
just
helps
people
that
really
want
to
help
themselves
and
can't,
but
reducing
that
would
certainly
help
a
lot
of
people
well.
H
I
know
that
on
one
of
our
houses
from
infill,
one
that
habitat
worked
on,
they
did
a
partnership
with
a
Solar,
Company
and
I.
Believe
there's
two
numbers
popping
in
my
head
right
now:
one
is
four
dollars
and
one
is
eleven
dollars,
but
I
believe
the
homeowner's
electric
bill
ended
up
being
11
a
month
with
the
solar
installed,
and
then
that
was
their
water
heater,
their
air
conditioning
everything.
H
D
I,
don't
believe
we've
had
a
chance
to
do
that.
Could.
D
Sure,
last
week
we
launched
the
city
Tampa's
Green
Team.
This
is
a
partnership
that
was
funded
through
volunteer,
Florida
and
Americorps.
It's
a
three-year
program
for
this
first
cohort,
we've
hired
or
partnered,
with
20
part-time
members
to
serve
in
the
community
to
tackle
litter
to
plant
trees,
engage
in
beautification,
clean
up
our
storm
water
infrastructure,
an
incredibly
diverse
group
of
people,
hundreds
of
people
applied
to
join
us
and
they're
paid
a
living
stipend,
and
this
is
again
facilitated
through
an
Americorps
Grant.
D
D
It's
so
cool,
and
so
we're
going
to
be
doing
this
for
three
years,
you're
going
to
see
people
out
and
green
shirts
around
the
community,
picking
up
trash
planting
trees,
making
sure
the
storm
water
infrastructure
is
cleaned
up,
and
this
was
kind
of
a
quick
way
to
get
people
engaged,
but
also
to
help
address
those
issues
that
you
guys
get
calls
on.
I
think
a
lot.
So
we're
really
really
excited
about
that
program
and
thanks
for
your
support
and
not
facilitating
that
Grant.
H
Council,
if
I
may
very
quickly
before
you
move
on
to
your
next
item,
I
believe
there
was
a
memo
that
asked
if
we
could
come
under
staff
reports
on
the
second
to
discuss
with
you,
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
the
city's
receiving
from
the
federal
government
in
what
our
Rush
funds
and
these
are
to
help
homeless
with
rapid
re-housing.
This
was
an
allocation
that
came.
It
does
not
require
public
hearing
or
anything
like
that,
but
we
would
like
to
come
under
staff
reports
on
the
second
and
provide
you
with
some
information
concerning
that
allocation.
B
Have
a
motion
made
by
councilman
Maniscalco
seconded
by
councilman
Carlson,
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed.
Thank
you
on
agenda
item
number
three.
Is
there
anybody
in
Chambers
who
would
like
to
speak
to
agenda
item
number
three,
seeing
none
Chief
Tripp?
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
patience.
Thank
agenda.
Item
number
four.
P
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
Council
Chief
trip,
Tampa,
Florida,
rescue
again
a
course
based
on
this
agenda
item.
The
discussion
was
to
give
information
concerning
communication
whenever
there's
an
emergency
within
the
city
of
Tampa.
So
with
that
emergency
preparedness,
pretty
much
fall
up,
one
of
the
Emergency
Management,
which
is
done
in
my
portfolio
and,
of
course,
I
have
the
Emergency
Management
Department,
which
is
my
Emergency
Management
coordinator,
John
and
tapasus
who's,
going
to
kind
of
outlay.
P
P
Okay,
there
we
go
so
I'll,
let
like
I,
said
emergency
manager
coordinator
Johnny
tapases
can
review
all
of
the
communication
that
we
have.
Okay.
Q
Good
afternoon,
Council
public
Johnny
tapsis
emergency
coordinator
with
City
of
Tampa,
wanted
to
give
you
today
a
quick
overview
of
our
procedures
for
communicating
with
U.S
city
council
during
emergency
incidents.
Obviously
we
had
hurricane
Ian
last
year.
That
was
the
last
time.
Q
I
spoke
in
front
of
you
about
a
week
before
it
made
landfall
back
in
Southwest
Florida,
but
real
quickly
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
overview
of
our
division
within
Tampa
Fire
Rescue
and
how
we
get
our
communication
methods
through
our
different
agencies
and
then
next
few
slides
I'll
show
how
we
communicate
directly
to
you
at
city
council
when
we
get
that
information
office
of
emergency
management,
we're
a
small
division
in
Tampa,
Fire
Rescue,
there's
four
guys
as
part
of
our
team.
But
as
a
small
team.
We
are
very
Mighty.
Q
We
work
with
all
levels
of
government,
all
our
departments
within
the
city
of
Tampa,
because
everyone
has
a
role
during
an
emergency
and
we
have
to
ensure
that
we're
prepared
to
respond
to
those
emergency
situations
when
they
do
occur,
but
also
as
part
of
our
team.
Our
Duties
are
that
one
of
us
is
on
call
24
7.
Q
These
are
going
on
constantly
throughout
the
day
our
phones
get
beeps
and
Pages
for
emergencies
at
a
lower
level
that
don't
necessarily
need
to
be
communicated
out
to
all
our
stakeholders,
but
that
is
continuing
that
is
always
being
monitored
on
the
right
side
of
the
presentation
you
do
see.
We
have
these
different
agencies
that
we
get
information
from
whether
it's
severe
weather
from
the
National
Weather
Service
Street,
flooding
from
Tampa,
Police,
Department,
water
main
breaks
from
the
water
department,
infectious
disease
back
in
covid-19.
Q
So
our
severe
weather
briefings
you
should
have
received
one
yesterday
we
had
one
go
out
for
the
cold
front
that
was
coming
through
late
evening
yesterday,
as
well
as
the
cold
temperatures
that
we're
expecting
tonight
into
tomorrow
morning
and
then
into
tomorrow
night,
as
well
as
well
as
those
cold
weather,
shelters
that
are
going
to
be
activated.
We
routinely
get
these
severe
weather
briefings
from
the
National
Weather
Service
and
we
communicate
those
out
our
basic
threshold
and
our
procedure
is
anything
at
a
marginal
risk
or
higher.
Q
Q
The
next
product
that
we
also
send
out
to
city
councils
is
our
situation
report.
So
now
this
is
at
a
point
where
an
incident
we're
taking
special
consideration
of.
What's
going
on
when
we
were
going
through
covid-19,
you
were
getting
situation
reports
daily
from
us
on
the
the
trends,
the
data
that
we
were
getting
from
the
state,
the
protective
actions
that
were
being
taken
from
the
city
county,
as
well
as
our
state
agencies
as
well.
Q
But
again,
this
document
is
set
forth
to
one
document
the
actions
we're
taking
as
a
city
for
historical
purposes,
whether
if
it
even
escalates
further
and
we
become
a
presidentially
declared
disaster,
and
we
need
to
have
that
documentation
of
the
actions
we're
taken
at
the
city,
but
also
for
situational
awareness,
all
the
different
departments
that
we
work
with
all
the
different
agencies,
levels
of
government.
We
want
to
make
sure
we're
capturing,
what's
going
on
so
there's
more
effort
that
goes
into
these
situation.
Reports
Maps
data
that
we're
collecting
any
additional
forecasts.
Q
If
you
remember
before
hurricane
Ian,
we're
constantly
getting
updates
to
the
track
the
intensity
and
where
that
landfall
was
going
to
go.
For
that
storm,
as
the
that
information
is
updated
and
given
to
us,
we'll
incorporate
that
into
that
situation
report
as
well.
We
also
again
work
very
closely
with
all
our
departments.
Although
we're
embedded
in
Tampa
Fire
Rescue,
we
work
with
Mobility,
we
work
with
the
Tampa
Police
Department
code
enforcement.
Q
There
are
different
roles
during
emergency
situation,
but
these
situation
reports
we
take
information
through
our
web
EOC
platform,
which
is
an
application
we
use
for
information
management,
collect
what
activities
are
going
on
throughout
the
city,
compile
that
into
this
report.
So
we're
getting
you
the
latest
greatest
data.
Q
Q
We
do
an
annual
test
of
that
system.
You
all
were
included
in
that.
In
May
of
last
year,
we
hit
4
800
plus
employees
to
ensure
that
they
are
receiving
those
messages.
If
they
don't,
they
have
one
other
option.
They
have
one
other
opportunity
to
confirm
they've
received
that
that
next
week,
if
they
don't
do
that,
they
get
followed
up
with
their
supervisor.
So
we
have
that
Know
Your
Role
program
within
this
City
that
everyone
has
an
emergency
function
during
an
emergency.
So
this
is
our
main
activation
method
to
get
that
activation
out.
Q
When
we
set
up
shelters
for
Ian,
we
use
this
application
to
activate
those
Personnel
get
them
where
they
need
to
go.
The
Emergency
Operations
Center
when
it
activates
same
thing,
we'll
use
this
method
to
activate
the
Emergency
Operations
Center
as
we're
anticipating
for
Saturday
with
Gasparilla,
we
will
have
the
Emergency
Operations
Center
activated.
We
use
this
application
to
activate
it
and
communicate
that
to
all
the
stakeholders
and
Personnel
that
are
working.
That
incident.
Q
And
then
just
finally,
just
as
as
a
as
a
big
message
for
the
public
alert
Tampa
if
you're
not
enrolled
to
it
already,
please
enroll
to
it,
it's
going
to
be
our
direct
method
from
the
city
to
communicate
with
the
public
as
well.
Q
Gasparilla
is
coming
up
this
Saturday
and
if
you
want
to
be
in
the
know
on
those
messages,
if
you
haven't
been
receiving
them
already
text
the
word
Gasparilla
to
888,
777
and
you'll
know
all
the
activities
that
are
going
on
during
the
event,
but
during
an
emergency
that
is
also
the
software
that
we'll
be
able
to
get
out
messages
quickly
to
the
public.
If
there's
any
shelter
in
place
or
any
other
emergency
notifications
that
need
to
go
out
to
the
city.
B
E
Yes
and
I
think
I
made
the
motion
on
this.
One
I
think
the
announcements
that
you
and
your
department
do
are
excellent.
During
the
hurricane
we
get.
What
is
it
twice
a
day,
detailed
updates
of
everything
that's
going
on,
and
we
probably
all
read
that
I
personally
sign
up
for
the
alert
Tampa.
The
communication
Department
sends
us
infographics
of
to
help
the
public
know
how
to
sign
up
for
alerts
and
and
other
kinds
of
announcements.
E
The
the
issues
are
a
few
issues
that
that
I
face,
especially
in
the
last
one
and
I,
don't
know
about
my
colleagues
can't
talk
about
it
outside
of
here,
but
and
I
won't
get
the
timing
exactly
right,
but
it
was
like
what
it
was
a
Friday
morning
or
something
that
Ian
hit
and
I
can't
remember
the
day,
maybe
Monday.
E
Whatever
the
day
it
was
like
starting
around
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning,
I
was
talking
to
people
in
the
county
and
they
said
by
the
way
we're
going
to
be
shutting
down
most
of
South
Tampa
within
the
next
couple
hours.
So
I
waited
about
an
hour.
I
didn't
hear
anything
and
then
I
called
Chief
of
Staff
or
I
texted
them
I,
can't,
remember
and,
and
then
an
hour
or
two
I
think
he
was
going
to
a
meeting
like
an
hour
or
two
later
I
got
a
heads
up
that
yeah.
E
E
E
How
would
I
do
at
my
house
so
I
don't
have
any
place
to
I,
don't
have
any
place
to
go
then
I
have
to
find
another
place
to
locate
at
the
same
time,
city,
council,
member
and
you
know,
people
who
are
up
in
drier
land
they
can.
They
can
figure
out
what
to
do.
I.
E
Think
council
member
Sita
lives
in
a
condo
in
Bay
Shore,
so
he
has
the
same
problem,
but
we
we
yeah,
you
can
go
surfing
downstairs,
but
we,
the
question,
was
first
I
think
there
should
be
a
protocol
outside
of
the
standard
things
and,
if
you
think
of
us,
as
the
legislative
arm
of
the
city,
just
like
and
sorry
to
make
this
comparison,
but
just
like
Congress
has
an
emergency
place
to
go
emergency
meetings
and
everything
if
we're
thinking
about
worst
case
scenarios,
a
couple
of
these
hurricanes
like
Charlie
and
Ian.
E
We
thought
that
I
thought
I
might
come
back
to
have
everything
in
my
neighborhood
everything
south
of
Gandhi
for
sure
completely
wiped
out
I
mean
if
you
see
the
pictures
of
Katrina
South
Tampa
could
end
up
like
Katrina
and
by
the
way
since
Stephanie's
back
there,
I
should
say
my
legislative
aide
lives
right
by
big
deal.
It
took
her
before
the
announcement
was
made
because
I
was
talking
to
her
about
it.
She
jumped
in
the
car
immediately
to
leave.
E
It
took
her
30
minutes
to
get
from
kind
of
the
McDonald's
by
mcdill
to
Target,
which
usually
is
five
minutes,
and
this
is
what
people
have
been
talking
about
about
the
evacuation.
That's
before
anybody
knew
about
it.
Yet
nobody-
the
public,
didn't
even
know,
and
so
one
thing
is
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
special.
There
needs
to
be
some
kind
of
special
protocol
for
for
big
disasters.
You
know
if
it's
going
to
be
cold
this
weekend,
that's
one
thing,
but
big
disasters.
E
That
does
that
in
this
case
it
can
completely
wipe
out
my
district.
It
could.
My
district
could
have
been
completely
underwater,
it
could
have
looked
like
a
New
Orleans
after
Katrina
and
it
that
happens
about
every
10
years.
We
get
a
threat
like
that,
so
it
would
be
nice
to
have
some
kind
of
special
briefing,
some
kind
of
special
communication
and
I
guess
that
would
go
to
the
city-wide
folks
as
well.
Maybe
we
could
jump
on
a
call
where
we
couldn't
talk
to
each
other.
E
I
don't
know,
but
we
need
to
know
what
What's
Happening
other
than
the
information
that's
readily
available
and
sometimes
I
was
getting
information
fact
Faster
by
watching
Twitter
from
other
government
agencies,
I
think
I
mentioned
Saint
Pete
was
putting
some
stuff
out
an
hour
or
two
before
we
do.
We
did
so.
I
was
able
to
see
some
of
the
things
that
were
going
on,
so
one
is
special
kind
of
community
because
we
have
a
responsibility
to
keep
the
city
going.
Number
two
is
related
to
that.
E
We
have
to
be
one
of
the
first
and
best
sources
of
information.
Also,
and
the
communication
Department
did
send
us
things
they
did
post
up,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
that
communication
line
is
clear
and
that
we're
letting
people
know
as
early
as
possible,
like
everybody
wants
to
know
when,
when
the
Hurricanes
passed
over,
they
want
to
know.
E
When
can
they
come
back
and
then
when's
the
trash
going
to
be
picked
up,
when's
the
roadside,
so
all
of
that
the
faster
we
can
get
it
out,
the
less
people
are
worried
about
it
and-
and
they
look
to
us
to
answer
those
questions,
So
the
faster
we
get
it
and
the
faster
we
can
post
it.
Then,
then,
then,
the
better
the
information
gets
out.
The
other
thing
is:
what's
the
protocol
for
what
we're
supposed
to
do?
E
You
know
if
we
do
certain
things,
people
might
say:
oh,
you
guys
are
doing
that,
because
it's
politically
you
know
something
that
you
can
show
off
doing
or
whatever
you
know
you
can
think
about
the
kind
of
photo
ops,
but
in
reality,
if,
if
a
catastrophic
disaster
hit
Tampa
remember
what
we
had
to
do
with
covid,
where
we
had
to
go
locate
at
the
convention
center
if
knock
on
wood,
if
something
catastrophic
happened,
how
do
we?
How
do
we
reform
the
government?
E
Where
are
we
supposed
to
be
and
and
then
the
chair
went
to
the
EOC
building
if
something
happens
and
I'm
sorry
to
bring
all
this
up?
E
How
are
we
supposed
to
be
reachable
in
a
in
a
catastrophic
event
sure
that
the
mayor
has
special
powers,
but
at
a
certain
time
that
that
goes
by
and
you
need
access
to
city,
council
and
so
I
I
wish?
There
was
some
kind
of
super
emergency
protocol,
so
we
would
know
what
to
do
and
where
to
go
and
how
to
communicate
so
that
we
can
not
only
communicate
with
our
constituents
but
keep
the
government
moving
in
a
special
disaster.
Thank
you.
M
Oh
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
for
all
your
work
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
I
signed
up
with
alert,
Tamp
and
I
get
the
notifications
and
the
phone
call.
The
situation.
Reports
that
you
send
out
are
extremely
helpful
to
keep
me
updated.
What's
coming,
you
know,
councilman
Carlson
did
touch
on
a
lot
of
stuff
and
he
is
his
district
is
the
most
vulnerable
because
you
know
you
see
the
the
sea
level
there
and
everything
I
remember
when
Irma
was
coming.
The
Friday
before
it
arrived
and
as
downtown
was
being
evacuated.
M
I
went
around
town
and
I
took
pictures
of
all
the
places
that
I
like
because
I
said
this.
Is
it
and
I
got
a
call
from
somebody
in
the
administration
and
said
hey
we're
here
for
you
councilman?
If
you
need
anything
and
I
said,
I
have
a
bad
feeling
about
this
and
he
goes
yep
you're.
You
know
we're
in
the
same
boat.
If
you
need
us
we're
we're
here,
but
luckily
we
were
spared.
You
know
when
I
saw
the
water
being
pulled
out
of
the
Bay
I
said
you
know.
M
What's
coming
back
is
going
to
be
what
we
cannot
imagine
and
again
I
said
everything
that
we
love
and
you
know
parts
of
the
city
were
going
to
be
wiped
out.
However,
we
were
spared
that
and
even
with
Ian
most
recently,
but
getting
back
to
the
point
here,
I
think
how
you
send
out
information
is
very
effective
people
get
it.
M
Social
media
is
very
powerful
I
like
to
share
as
much
as
I
can
with
with
people
whether
it's
helpful,
whether
people
see
it
or
not,
but
you
know
emergency
numbers
what
to
do
sandbag
locations
on
and
on
and
on
I
I
think
it's
it's
a
great
system.
However,
we
can
improve
in
areas
that
we
need
to
councilmember
Carlson
mentioned.
You
know
the
gridlock.
You
know
when
people
have
to
evacuate,
you
know
it's
all.
Tampa
is
not
super
manageable.
M
L
The
information
is
good,
but
councilman
Carlson
touched
on
it.
There's
a
missing
piece.
This
house
is
a
part
of
this
government
and
we're
left
out
of
the
process.
You
look
at
the
County
Commission
when
they
have
an
emergency
over
there.
All
every
commission
is
notified
personally,
what's
going
on
all
the
time
we
are
we're
not
notified
I
found
out
about
Bayshore
South
Tampa
power
may
be
cut
off.
People
were
calling
I
didn't
know
anything
about
that.
I
think
that's.
Suddenly.
The
council
members
need
to
know
if
this
city
is
going
to
go,
go
black.
L
It's
like
Wisconsin,
said.
If
something
does
happen,
how
does
this
Council
communicate
or
how?
How
we
notify
you
know.
That's
a
nice
job.
Ben
gives
us
a
little
text
here
and
there,
but
I
think
there's.
There
has
to
be
another
process
in
place
for
this
government,
because
there
is
two
sets
of
government
here
and
we
need
to
be
notified
of
what's
going
on
in
real
time,
not
after
the
fact
or
sometimes
in
between
I
thought.
L
P
Good
night,
if
I'm,
not
mistaken,
I
think
give
us
something
from
the
attorney
telling
me
that
when
I
invite
you
I
I,
don't
know
the
laws
behind
inviting
you
all
over
but
like
I
said
I'll,
send
him
an
email
and
we
can
schedule
something
for
you
all
to
go
over.
The
eels.
L
L
You
know
we
have
a
hierarchy
here,
but
they're
actually
two
hierarchies
here,
and
we
have
to
make
sure
that
everyone
is
informed
and
I
feel
left
out
when
people
have
to
call
me
and
wear
situations,
even
with
some
of
the
murders
or
things
come
on,
I've
asked
the
police
department
make
sure
you
call
me
I
didn't
know,
because
people
are
calling
me
so
I
shouldn't
have
to
wait
to
hear
it
on
the
news
or
wait
till
the
morning.
Paper
I
should
be
notified.
L
This
is
what
happened
in
your
District
in
this
city,
so
I'm,
a
bristle,
what's
going
on
so
I
would
I
would
hope
that
in
the
future
we
can
find
another
plan
or
protocol
and
make
sure
this
council
is
alerted
fire
department.
Does
a
great
job
he's
doing
a
great
job?
What
you're
doing
why
you
think,
there's
just
one
small
missing
piece
that
this
council's
legislative
branch
is
left
out
of
the
process.
Thank
you.
J
I
want
to
agree,
and
thank
you
for
the
the
updates.
You
do
give
same
thing
during
Hurricane
Ian
I
re,
you
know
everything
I
saw
was
on
social
media.
J
Obviously
we
got
those
reports
a
couple
of
times
a
day,
but
otherwise
I
was
just
forwarding
sharing
what
I
saw,
which
was
was
helpful,
but
again,
like
councilman
Carlson,
said
I
I
also
saw
on
social
media
that
Saint
Pete
was
talking
about
evacuation
and
doing
like
they
just
seem
to
have
information
way
before
we
did.
J
Even
the
county
would
put
stuff
out
on
on
social
media
that
we
hadn't
seen
yet
and
again,
if
I'm,
just
a
normal
citizen,
sure
it's
it's
nice,
but
we,
we
are
literally
a
large
part
of
this
government
and
we
didn't
know
about
it.
I
just
I,
don't
feel
comfortable
finding
out
about
that
about
things
that
were
we're
planning
to
do
or
we're
considering
doing.
J
I
I
do
think
that
there
I
agree
that
we
need
a
a
protocol
to
keep
us
somehow
informed
ahead
of
time,
because
we
did
a
lot
of
phone
calls
a
lot
of
neighbors.
Everybody
wants
to
know
what
to
do
and
I
didn't
know
what
to
tell
them,
and
it
was
Chief
Bennett
kept
us
in
informed,
but
we're
not
always
going
to
have
a
chief
Bennett
I
can't.
We
can't
promise
that
the
next
chief
of
staff
is
going
to
be
as
communicative.
J
We
we
need
a
protocol
that
is
going
to
be
followed
every
single
time
so,
but
I
I
again,
I
I,
appreciate
everything
you
do
and
I've
signed
up
and
I
love
it,
but
I
feel
like
for
us.
We
need
a
another
level.
K
R
And
just
very
briefly,
and
and
we
thank
you
for
all
your
work,
especially
during
you
know,
the
hurricane
I
remember
the
the
funny
video
that
went
a
little
bit
viral
of
miracaster,
getting
a
call
from
President
Biden,
and
you
were
kind
of
in
the
background
there.
So
just
it
kind
of
funny,
if
you
remember
that
I
assume
yeah,
do
you
remember
that
Chief
or.
R
R
R
You
know
one
thing:
it's
funny:
I
I
emailed
my
aide
right
now
to
get
together
with
our
friends
at
the
at
the
Humane
Society,
nothing
that
you
all
got
to
deal
with,
I
think
but
I
see
over
here
for
the
registration
and
vaccination
for
pet
friendly
shelters
that
a
lot
of
people,
as
you
all
know,
will
not
leave
their
homes
without
their
pets.
Those
are
their
family
and
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
about
these
requirements.
So
you
know
getting
that
information
out.
R
R
E
Just
to
add,
besides
natural
disasters,
there
are
also
emergency
responses
with
with
fires,
rescue
vehicles
and
police
and
I'm
on
all
the
emails.
Now,
where
I'm
getting
alerts
on
all
that,
so
that's
very
helpful,
somehow
I
think
councilmember
Goods,
unfortunately,
there's
a
lot
of
murder
in
other
cases
going
on
in
his
area,
but
he's
somehow
he's
finding
out
about
those
and
he's
able
to
respond.
E
Maybe
it's
because
of
his
police
background
or
something,
but
if,
if,
if
something,
some
terrible
criminal
or
fire
thing
happened
in
my
district,
I
would
want
to
know
about
it
right
away
and
sometimes
like
councilmember
says
sometimes
Chief
in
it.
If
he's
available
alert
us,
but
it
would
be
nice
to
have
some
formal
process
and
the
last
example
I'll
give
was
during
the
BLM
protest.
E
Two
years
ago,
two
or
three
times
we
had
like
a
thousand
people
walking
through
Hyde
Park
and
other
neighborhoods
and
I
was
desperately
trying
to
find
out
when
those
Pro,
when
those
protests
were
happening
and
what
the
protocol
was
and
how
do
we
communicate
with
the
neighborhoods?
Do
we
tell
the
who's
communicating
with
neighborhoods?
Is
it
us
or
somebody
else,
do
we
tell
them
to
neighbors
to
walk
out
and
offer
them
drinks
and
and
snacks,
or
do
we
tell
them
to
stay
in
their
homes?
E
Should
people
drive
or
not
draw
drive?
It
would
be
nice
to
I
found
out
later
that
you
know
police
have
pretty
good
Intel
on
what's
Happening.
All
of
my
intel
was
because
I
happened
to
be
on
some
of
the
blogs
where
people
I
knew
were
talking
about
them
and
and
I
I
didn't
have
any
updated
information
I
could
give
the
neighborhoods
and
they
were
very,
very
frustrated
because
people
didn't
know
what
was
happening.
I
know
that's
an
unprecedented
thing,
but
who
knows
how
soon
something
like
that
will
happen
again?
E
L
P
Can
get
something
we
got
a
couple
things
we
want
to
kind
of
clarify
a
little
bit,
because
when
you
talk
about
a
lot
of
natural
disasters,
we're
talking
about
the
stuff
that
we
have
a
lot
of
the
information
that
you
all
are
talking
about.
We
don't
have
access
to
that
as
well,
so
we
don't
know
some
things
and
a
lot
of
things.
We
cannot
activate
into
the
county
because
once
again
in
certain
jurisdictions
that
we
can't
you
know
evacuate
something
if
the
county
or
the
state
doesn't
do
their
part.
P
So
when
we
get
that
information,
we
pull,
we
we
put
it
out
as
soon
as
we
can.
You
know
now
as
far
as
coverage
whenever
there's
like
the
storm
that
came
in
within
you
know
not
saying
that
you,
you
know
part
of
the
city,
but
we
had
shelters
for
family
members
and
stuff
like
that.
Now,
if
we're
looking
for
something
different,
then
of
course
we'll
have
to
look
into
that
to
have
you
all
go
to
a
certain
place.
P
You
know,
but
we
put
that
information
out
to
you,
know
where
the
city
shelters
are
kind
of
different
than
just
the
regular
shelters
and
we
we
have
more
multiple
pet,
friendly
shelters
as
well.
P
So
a
lot
of
this
information
we
do
put
it
out
and
if
we
don't
put
it
out,
we
don't
know
about
it,
I'm
being
honest
with
you
and
then,
when
we
talk
about
a
lot
of
incidents
that
happen
in
the
neighborhoods
when
it
comes
to
that's
kind
of
like
not
in
our
area
as
far
as
when
it
comes
when
I
use
the
word
violent
crimes
and
stuff,
you
know
we're
more
or
less
with
the
emergency
preparedness.
You
know
preparing
for
natural
disasters.
You
know
man-man
disasters,
that.
G
P
L
I
L
Before
the
public
gets
it,
we
should
know
that's
what
we're
talking
about.
We
want
that
information
before
you
put
out
to
the
public
or
we
got
to
hear
from
Saint
Pete's
doing
something.
So
that's
what
we're
saying
that's
what
a
disconnect
is.
When
you
hear
it,
you
notify
the
mayor
we're
saying
this
Council
should
be
notified
before
it
goes
out
to
the
media.
What's
going
on,
so
we
have
an
idea
for
when
it
does
happen,
or
it's
going
to
happen.
We
get
those
calls
we're
able
to
tell
our
constituents
and
that's
the
problem.
L
We
have
our
disconnected
with
our
constitution
when
emergency
situations
go
on
when
I
got
a
major
fire
that
happened
over
here
two
years
ago,
I
knew
about
in
the
morning,
and
people
call
me
I
got
a
major
fire
over
here.
I
know
nothing
about
those
things
like
that.
A
district
person
needs
to
know
that
that
just
happened
in
my
district
and
I
I've
been
telling
the
cheat
that
the
same
thing
I
gotta
get
two
shot
over
in
Johnson.
L
Court
I
don't
get
a
call
from
anybody
to
the
next
day,
but
Calvin
Johnson
been
doing
a
great
job.
You
know
or
I
get
neighbors
knocking
on
the
funeral,
knock
on
my
door,
say:
hey.
We
got
a
big
old
fight
over
here,
a
big
old
fire
over
here.
That's
what
we're
talking
about.
We
should
have
an
alert
you
you
giving
us
that
media
alert.
It's
fine.
It's
a
way
to
pacifiers
I,
believe
that
you
said
to
us,
but
that
really
does
us
then
you
go.
We
need
to
know
here
are
boys
are
telling
us.
L
We
had
a
major
incident
in
your
District,
wanted
you
to
know.
What's
going
on,
it
is
safe.
No
one's
asking
us
to
go
into
what
the
investigation
is
and
let's
just
come
out
the
fire
I'm
just
saying
in
general,
but
please
stand
fire.
Don't
cares
about
the
investigation
we
just
want
to
know.
Is
it
safe?
What
happened
so
we
can
be
able
to
tell
inclusion
our
Police
Department
or
our
fire
department
is
having
a
situation
everything's
fine.
There
was
an
incident
but
they're
handling
it.
L
E
One
just
real
fast,
my
question
about
what,
where
am
I
supposed
to
go,
if
my
district
is
evacuated,
is
not
me
requesting
room
in
a
shelter,
I
can
find
a
place
to
go.
The
question
is:
what's
the
role
of
city
council
during
that
time?
Okay,
what
what
it
felt
like
is
the
mayor
has
special
powers,
so
you
guys
are
irrelevant
and
you
know
worst
case
something
happens
to
a
mayor.
How
does
City?
How
does
city
council
continue?
E
The
government
I
mean
we've
gotta,
we
I
think
city
council
has
to
for
the
continuity
government
city
council
has
to
be
engaged,
but
also
we
need
to
be
engaged
because
we
have
to
communicate
with
constituents
and
and
constituents
don't
see
the
difference
between
mayor
and
city
council.
They
think
we
all
should
know
everything
and
so
they're
upset
with
all
of
us.
If
we
don't
have,
if
we
all
don't
have
all
the
information
they.
B
Thank
you
for
their
Traditions
she's,
going
to
be
moving
out
to
Hannah
Street.
Q
We
did
hear
that
just
before
I
know
it
has
gone
back
and
forth
so
that
originally
was
the
plan
to
go
there,
but
I
did
hear
it
was
pulled
out
of
that
project.
But
then
I
just
heard
earlier
that
it's
back
in
so
I'm
curious
about
that.
B
All
right,
I'm
also
understanding
that
if
some
emergency
happens
and
city
council
has
to
shut
down
here,
it
is
also
going
to
Hannah
street.
So
we
can
have
live
broadcasts
and
City
Government
Can
can
carry
on
councilman.
Carlson's
concerns
are
valid.
B
We
as
city
council,
need
to
know
what's
going
on
and
without
a
doubt,
there's
only
one
catch
to
that
that
it
should
be
one
voice,
whether
it
comes
from
us
or
or
whomever,
because
if
one
council
person
blasts
out
something
on
social
media
and
another
person
blasts
out
something
on
social
media
and
one
number
is
off.
One
letter
is
off,
it
could
be
misconstrued
ten
different
ways,
so
I
think
I
think
what
city
council
is
asking.
S
Good
afternoon
Council
John
Bennett
Chief
of
Staff
I
appreciate
the
dialogue
and
the
opportunity
to
increase
our
performance
in
this
space.
As
everybody
was
talking,
I
went
through
the
recently
promulgated
2022
comprehensive,
Emergency
Operations
plan
on
the
Ina,
and
there
is
a
special
section,
4.2
key
leadership
responsibilities,
and
there
is
a
section
in
there
for
city
council
as
well
as
the
ESF
emergency
support
functions
for
communications
and
I,
know.
I
heard
a
discussion
about
a
potential
motion,
but
my
question
to
Chief,
Tripp
and
John
a
would
be.
S
Would
it
be
fair
for
Council
to
review
those
two
sections
and
then
prior
to
the
upcoming
season
or
within
a
recent
amount
of
time,
work
with
Council
and
the
things
that
we
have
learned
over
the
last
couple
years
and
see
if
we
can
increase
those
sections
of
the
Emergency
Operations
plan?
Is
that
fair.
B
E
Chief
in
it,
I
think
that
you
all
have
heard
a
lot
of
feedback
from
us
today.
Maybe
if,
if
councilmember,
Goods
or
someone's
putting
put
making
a
motion,
maybe
we
could
just
have
you
all
come
back
a
month
from
now
and
we
will
have
read
that
again
and
you
all
might
have
some
updates
and
cheap
in
it.
You
may
want
to
present
or
bring
the
police
or
something
because
this
hits
more
than
just
the
chief
trips
area.
Thank
you.
S
Yeah
I
agree,
and
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
point
out
is
you
know,
and
coming
from
a
25-member
government,
with
probably
the
largest
Emergency
Management
responsibility
over
the
bridge
and
then
coming
here
to
you
know,
essentially
a
smaller
set
of
jurisdictions,
but
obviously
more
people.
S
Q
We're
actually
up
for
our
three-year
big
update
of
this
document
every
year.
We
touch
it
and
update
our
Maps,
but
this
is
our
three-year
cycle.
So
definitely
we
would
look
to
do
a
big
rehash
and
update
those
sections
and
get
that
out
to
you
that
we
need
to
incorporate
new
language
in
those
procedures
of
City
council's
roles
and
responsibilities.
This
is
a
perfect
period
before
the
season
starts.
Council.
B
J
J
As
you
are
the
emergency
professionals
you're
hearing
what
we're
looking
for,
but
I
wouldn't
know
where
to
begin
asking
for
that
in
the
proper
way
or
writing
it
into
the
plan
in
a
proper
way.
So,
possibly
maybe
some
suggestions.
I
would
also
ask
of
that
from
Chief
of
Staff.
For
when
you
come
back,
we
can
bring
our
thoughts,
but,
but
you
all
are
the
ones
that
write
this
document.
So
you
probably
you
have
the
opportunity
to
look
at
other
documents
that
are
similar.
T
Q
Q
B
B
U
I'll
talk
about
this
in
a
minute:
first
Stephanie
Poynter.
First
of
all,
as
somebody
who
lives
on
that
Peninsula
is
that
councilman
Carlson
was
talking
about
my
house.
The
corner
of
my
lot
is
13.42
feet.
I
am
one
of
the
highest
locations
in
South
Tampa,
because
my
neighborhood
was
built
up
as
part
of
the
development,
so
I've
had
councilman
Carlson's
been
in
my
neighborhood
councilman.
Our
councilwoman.
Her
attack
has
been
on
a
tour
of
SOG
with
me.
U
I
would
invite
all
of
you
to
come
to
a
tour,
it's
very
concerning
because,
if
Ian
had
hit
here,
we
I
didn't
board
anything
up,
because
if
it
hit
here,
boarding
up
is
going
to
do
nothing
for
us,
because
I'm
going
to
be
inundated
with
water,
water
is
going
to
be
my
problem.
Not
the
wind,
so
bottom
line
is
that
the
more
people
who
can
push
something
out
from
the
city?
U
Why
wouldn't
I
mean
this
is
kind
of
a
no-brainer?
If
the
text
goes
to
the
mayor,
it
should
go
to
each
one
of
you
as
well,
and
here's
the
primary
reason
why?
Because
six
of
the
seven
of
you
I
have
talked
to
on
the
phone
six
of
the
seven
of
you
I
text
on
the
phone
for
one
reason
or
another
at
one
point
in
time
or
another
and
I
know
that
if
I
send
you
a
text,
you're
going
to
respond
to
me,
I
have
the
mayor's
number
too,
but
I.
U
Don't
think
I've
ever
sent
her
a
text
because
I
don't
get
responses
from
her
emails,
so
I
I
just
need
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
I
also
want
to
point
out-
and
this
is
something
that
drives
me:
bonkers
I
have
been
to
the
EOC
as
part
of
mayor's
neighborhood
University.
How
many
of
you
guys
have
been
through
mayor's
neighborhood
to
University?
Okay,
and
and
did
you
see
anybody
from
city
council
there?
No,
you
didn't.
U
Okay,
everybody
needs
to
understand
what
your
jobs
are
and
how
you
support
our
government
and
when
we
went
through
mayor's
neighborhood
University
I
asked
every
single
session.
When
are
we
going
to
get
to
see
city
council
because
there
were
folks
in
there
who've
never
interacted
with
you
guys
and
so
I
think
this
is
kind
of
par
for
the
course
and
this
ad
this
this
newsletter
came
out,
and
somebody
asked
me
this
morning:
why
don't?
We
have
multiple
people
running
for
multiple
races,
and
this
is
a
problem.
This
is
a
newsletter
from
the
city
of
Tampa.
U
This
is
a
newsletter
from
the
city
of
Tampa.
Does
it
say
The
city
of
Tampa
at
the
top?
No,
it
doesn't
I
have
a
problem
with
the
propaganda
that
goes
out.
Every
single
City
of
Tampa
post
that
is
posted
on
Facebook,
mentions
the
mayor
by
name
and
tags.
Her
I
have
seen
every
single
one
of
you
in
those
posts
and
you've
never
been
tagged.
U
Why
not
everybody
sitting
up
there
Works
their
butt
off
for
this
city?
Why
is
it
the
Jane
Caster
show
sorry,
not
sorry
and
then
her
girlfriend
wife,
whatever
significant
other,
is
spotlighted
in
these.
In
addition
to
her,
but
I,
don't
see
any
of
your
names
up
there
and
you
guys
are
working
your
butt
off
and
you
guys
are
standing
in
the
same
place
right
next
to
her
Shame
Shame
Shame.
L
U
L
That
is
true,
I
can
remember.
I
went
to
was
the
when
we
had
the
so-called
possible
riots
at
the
University
Mall
and
I
got
out
my
car
to
stop
the
virus.
Now,
as
I
walked
the
approach,
some
of
the
officers
had
no
clue
who
I
even
was.
They
were
kind
of
like
here,
which
I
know
it
was
I
I
was
a
police
I
understand
what
they
were
doing
until
someone
said?
No,
that's
your
city
council.
L
You
go
to
some
of
these
departments
right
here.
They
have
no
clue
who
city
council
is
or
what
I
function
couldn't
tell
you
who
we
are
it.
It
is
a
shame.
I
always
said
that
every
employee,
every
Department,
should
know
this
form
of
government,
not
just
the
mayor,
but
who
who
who,
who
writes
the
checks,
because
the
end
of
the
day,
a
lot
of
stuff
happens.
L
We
we
still
sign
up
for
a
lot
of
something
goes
on
out
here,
but
no
one
knows
about
the
council,
and
if
you,
if
that,
if
it's
the
mayor's
University
I've,
always
said
that
too
it
was
the
marriage,
University
and
they're
Highland
every
Department
in
the
city,
but
they're
not
excluding
the
council,
they
should
know
what
the
council's
function
is.
What
we
do
so
I
I
bring
you
from
pointing
that
out.
It's
a
valid
point,
just
like
the
mayor's
picture
is
here.
L
You
know,
council,
member
switches
should
be
in
these
buildings
as
well
saying
you
got
the
mayor
here.
This
is
your
Council.
This
is
your
city
government.
This
is
your
government.
So
thank
you
for
pointing
that
out.
There's
no
strength
of
anybody
else,
but
it's
a
true
statement
that
goes
on
that.
No
one
knows
your
your
city
government.
Thank
you,
chairman
councilman,.
B
E
E
He
was
afraid
that
of
the
power
of
the
neighborhoods
and
push
back
against
them,
and
so
a
bunch
of
us
started
organizing
in
particular,
you
know
Grassroots,
organizing
with
with
neighborhoods
and
as
the
neighborhoods
were
starting
to
get
organized
again.
What
we
observed
at
the
time
was
that
mayor's,
neighborhood
University
was
set
up
to
kind
of
neutralize
the
the
Grassroots
movement
of
the
neighborhoods
and
to
kind
of
push
propaganda,
and
so
it's
interesting
that
a
lot
of
neighborhood
leaders
think
it's
special
to
go
through
neighborhood
University.
E
What
it
actually
was,
the
way
to
take
power
away
from
neighborhoods
and
I.
Don't
know
what
it's
still
like,
but
I
hope
that
it's
been
revamped
or
I
hope
it
can
be
revamped
and
maybe
fan
can
help
with
it,
because
it
shouldn't
be
a
propaganda
machine
and
it
shouldn't
try
to
take
any
power
away
from
what's
happening
with
the
neighborhoods
and
Associated
neighbors.
The
other
thing
on
the
newsletters
this
mayor
does
the
same
thing
that
the
last
mayor
did
with
newsletters
and
as
far
as
I
can
see
in
that.
E
There
was
transparency
as
to
whether
staff
are
being
used,
who's
paying
for
the
the
the
email
accounts
and
everything,
but
it's
very
confusing
the
public,
because
they
think
that
it's
that
it's
City
and
I
think
I
think
all
of
it
isn't
I
mean
I
understand
why,
from
their
perspective,
why
it's
done
and
it's
great
content
and
and
well
done,
but
there
there
needs
to
be
some
more
clarity
and
separation
between
what
potentially
is
is
campaign
or
personal
stuff
versus
versus
city.
Thank
you.
V
V
After
covet,
I
became
sort
of
the
unacknowledged,
emergency,
Deputy,
City
attorney
and
then
eventually,
City
attorney
and
I
always
always
made
a
point.
Notifying
counsel
of
everything
that
was
happening
as
it
was
happening.
I
was
just
reminiscing
about
the
night
that
the
county
declared
a
state
of
emergency
for
Ian,
and
then
the
mayor
subsequently
did
and
I
was
on
my
way
to
a
concert
at
Amalie
Arena
and
stopped
here
and
came
upstairs
to
send
all
of
you
and
others
at
the
city,
an
email
so
that
you
were
hearing
it.
V
The
second
it
happened
and
during
Ian
John
Bennett
asked
me
to
help
him,
and
we
were
constantly
text
messaging,
council
members
so
and
and
having
been
at
the
EOC
and
seeing
how
things
played
out
and
also
having
a
brother
in
Naples
that
ultimately
was
impacted
by
the
hurricane
things
were
changing.
Things
were
happening,
they
were
turning
on
a
dime
and
the
second.
We
were
hearing
things.
We
were
pushing
the
information
out,
but
sometimes
you
know
we
had
to
send
it
to
everyone.
V
At
the
same
time,
we
couldn't
prioritize
this
energy
this
one
first
and
that
one
first
and
and
as
I
think
has
been
said
over
and
over
again
it's
the
county
that
makes
the
decision
to
start
an
evacuation.
We
would
always
John,
always,
let
me
know
the
second
he
heard
anything
I
would
always
push
out
an
email
to
all
of
you
and
to
other
departments
into
the
department
heads
of
the
city
and
to
the
mayor.
So
we
really
have
tried
I
mean
during
covid
same
thing.
Every
time
the
governor
issued
an
order.
V
I
was
frantically
trying
to
get
that
information
out
to
you
as
soon
as
we
heard
it
so
I
I,
just
I'm
not
whining,
perhaps
I
am
but
I
feel
as
if
some
of
that
hasn't
been
acknowledged
or
recognized.
In
some
of
your
comments,
so
I
just
I
apologize
I
just
felt
the
need
to
say
that.
Thank
you.
Councilwoman.
J
I
appreciate
that,
because
we
we
did
get
that
information
I
felt
we
had
a
lot
more
information,
or
rather
we
were
getting
regular
updates
ahead
of
time,
but
once
Ian
hit
are
our
information
drastically
slowed
and
that's
when
everyone
starts
to
ask
what
is
you
know?
What's
the
problem
with
electric?
When
can
we
come
back
all
of
these
questions
and
and
the
flooding
and
all
of
this,
then
we
didn't
get
much
information
after
that
at
all.
So
that's
why
I
think
these?
J
You
know
really
going
through
this
again,
just
to
kind
of
improve
it
with
so
that
the
next
time
it
happens,
because
there
will
be
a
next
time.
We
are
prepared
better.
We
are
better
prepared,
as
council
members
and
as
front
lines
to
neighbors
and
residents,
and
that's
that's
just
what
we
do
so
do
we
need
a
motion
to
bring
this
back
at
a
particular
time
and
day.
Would.
J
Sure
I
didn't
what,
when
are
you
all?
When
is
this?
This
supposed
to
be
I
believe
Chief
Bennett
said
a
month
was
that
okay
I'll
make
a
motion
to
to
bring
this
back
March
2nd
with
some
recommendations
for
Council.
In
addition
to
talking
about
some
of
the
other
changes
that
might
be
coming.
B
V
I,
don't
think
I
introduced
myself
a
moment
ago
during
my
wine
session,
Andrea
zelman
City
attorney
this
I
resubmitted
to
council
the
memo
that
I
wrote
in
July
of
2022.
V
The
motion
requested
that
staff
report
on
a
proposed
ordinance
that
would
require
the
administration
to
provide
counsel
with
10-day
notice
on
matters
pertaining
to
civil
rights
and
criminal
investigations
against
the
city
of
Tampa
and
and
as
I
explained
in
the
motion,
I
mean
in
the
memo.
You
know,
there's
investigations
and
there's
investigations
the
I.
What
true?
What
obviously
triggered
this
motion
was
a
particular
incident
where
the
city
was
notified,
that
the
Department
of
Justice
was
investigating
that
particular
tenant.
V
The
the
tenants
issue,
I
can't
remember
now
the
name
of
the
program,
the
crime
free
program,
I,
apologize
and
I
believe
the
city
heard
about
it
just
before
Christmas
in
2021
and
made
Council
aware
of
the
investigation,
I
believe
early
in
April,
but
I
would
caution.
Council
to
you
know
allow
a
single
incident
like
that
to
trigger
some
ordinance
that
you
know
might
not
fit
so
many
of
the
other
instances.
You
know
those
those
kinds
of
Investigations
are
kind
of
a
once
in
a
decade
occurrence.
V
There
are
all
sorts
of
Investigations
that
take
place.
We
have
people
at
the
city
filing
employment,
discrimination,
complaints,
those
have
to
be
kept
confidential.
We
have
law
enforcement
members
who
are
employees
who
sometimes
aren't
even
notified
that
they're
under
investigation
by
outside
agencies,
there's
there's
as
I
said:
there's
investigations
that
and
there's
investigations
and
it's
hard
to
find
a
one-size-fits-all
solution
to
the
way
in
which
the
communication
is
provided
again,
some
have
to
be
kept
confidential.
V
Others
don't
you
know,
I
think
what
we
can
take
away
from
the
particular
incident
that
triggered
this
is
that
you
know.
Yes,
the
mayor
has
acknowledged
I
believe
very
recently
that
she
wishes.
Sometimes
communication
happened
more
openly
and
quickly,
and
this
is
an
example
but
I
don't
believe
that
an
ordinance
is
the
the
correct
response
to
it.
As
I've
outlined
in
this
memo
and
as
I'm
trying
to
explain
now,
I
think
we
just
need
to
come
to
an
understanding
of
what
type
of
Investigations
are
confidential,
what
aren't
and
when
it's
appropriate
to
go
public.
V
You
know
when
you're
being
investigated
what
the
city's
lawyers
and
the
city
is
using
outside
lawyers
in
that
particular
matter.
What
they
tell
you
is
don't
talk
about
it.
You
don't
talk
about
an
ongoing
investigation
of
your
own
actions,
so
you
know
there's
a
certain
amount
of
keeping
everything
as
quiet
as
possible.
So
it's
you
know
again.
It's
it's
a
delicate
thing.
You
know.
Perhaps
it
could
be
a
one-on-one
conversation
with
each
council.
Member
of
this
type
of
investigation,
I
think
that's.
V
R
B
G
R
Sir,
thank
you
very
much
and
and
really
quick-
and
you
know,
I
was
asked
about
this
yesterday
and
I
said
I
I
support
it
in
in
principle
and
I
hope
that
we
can
build
a
bridge
to
get
to
something
like
this.
But
let
me
ask
you
because
that
that's
kind
of
what
I
thought
of
which
is
you
know
what
is
a
civil
rights
investigation.
R
It
could
be
anything
from
an
allegation
of
of
excessive
force
by
law
enforcement
officer
to
something
that's
more
systemic,
and
maybe
there
could
be
a
way
where
we
could
take
care
of
the
confidentiality
issues
and
maybe
look
at
something
that
could
be
relegated
to
either
what
is
alleged
to
be
a
systemic
practice
or
a
program
like
crime-free
housing,
so
that
we
address
some
of
those
concerns
that
you've
legitimately
laid
out.
So
just
just
my
thoughts
again,
I
don't
want
to
die
I,
don't
like
speaking
before
makers
of
motion.
E
So
councilmember
Goods
has
a
saying
that
is
one
that
I
like
to
use
in
the
past,
but
he
says
it
better,
which
is
don't
tell
me
what
we
can't
do.
Tell
me
what
we
can
do
and
I
feel
like
too
often
we
are
told
what
we
can't
do
and
I'm
having
having
been
told
before
that
it
wasn't
that
it
was
hard
to
do
I
wish.
We
had
some
more
of
a
solution
here
it.
You
know.
E
E
There
are
a
couple
media
Outlets
there
that
figured
out
what
happened
and
the
significance
of
it
and
I
I
would
just
say
from
a
from
a
communication
point
of
view.
I
would
just
ask
the
administration
when
there's
something
this
significant,
especially
if
it's
embarrassing
to
the
administration,
tell
us
quickly.
It's
much
worse.
You
know
it's
just
like
when
you're
a
kid
and
you
screw
up
your
parents
say
well,
if
you
had
told
me
I've
been
honest
about
it,
I
wouldn't
punish
you
as
badly.
E
We
can't
punish
it
mayor,
but
it's
not
good
for
the
public
to
not
know
about
something
like
this.
This
is
very
significant
and
in
13
months
or
whatever
we
haven't
been
updated
on
it.
I
asked
Chief
Bennett.
Last
week
we.
V
E
Anyway,
I
I
think
that
if
and
and
the
and
the
way
it
was
done
in
anybody
in
PR
knows
if
you
release
something
on
a
Friday,
the
title
the
topic
was
not
about
the
Justice
Department
investigation
was
up
victims
rights.
It
was
buried
in
there
on
a
Friday
afternoon
when,
when
the
you,
you
release
things
on
a
Friday
afternoon,
because
the
media
won't
pay
attention,
not
many
reporters
will
show
up
and
then
they
said
that
that
it
was
a
response
or
HUD
letter
which
nobody
believes.
E
So
the
best
thing
to
do
is
if
something
bad
happens,
hold
a
press
conference
and
be
direct
and
honest
about.
It,
call
us
first
and
then
have
the
press
conference
right
after
but
but
be
open
and
honest
about.
It
say
this
is
what
happened
and
we're
looking
at
it
by
the
way
we'd
already
changed
the
program.
E
So
it's
not
it's
not
that
big
a
deal
the
mayor
could
own
it
and
say:
look
I
work
with
my
police
chief
to
change
the
program,
and
so
now
we're
looking
at
the
new
program
as
we
go
forward.
But
if
we
made
any
mistakes
in
the
past,
we
want
to
own
up
to
them
and
work
with
them
to
make
sure
that,
but
but
we've
already
changed
it.
All
of
that
would
have
been
great,
but
going
forward.
E
We
could
have
the
city,
not
we,
but
the
minute
the
city
could
have
an
Administration,
that's
worse,
that
doesn't
break
Counsel
on
anything
and
I,
hear
a
lot
of
complaints
in
the
community
about
how
public
records
take
forever.
How
my
own
public
records
requests
haven't
been
responded
to
in
a
month
or
two,
how
people
ask
specific
questions
and-
and
somebody
responds
and
said
we're
not
specific
enough.
E
You
know
if
you
say:
I
want
a
certain
contract
on
a
certain
day
with
this
company
from
this
topic,
and
they
say:
oh
well,
you
didn't
you
need
to
tell
us
which
one
well.
How
would
somebody
even
know
the
answer
to
that
and
so
I
think
we
we
desperately
need
to
work
on
transparency
and
I.
Would
just
ask
you
I,
don't
know
if
anybody
else
wants
to
make
a
motion,
but
I
would
just
ask
you
to
maybe
make
a
motion
to
have.
E
You
come
back
on
May,
March,
2nd
and
just
tell
us
what
we
can
do
is
there
we
can
have
a
resolution,
a
request,
but
if
we
got
if
we
got
a
mayor
that
was
worse
and
and
refused
to
tell
a
future
city
council,
anything,
that's
a
really
bad
situation,
because
the
city
council
is
a
liable
and
I'll
contrast
that
to
your
work
with
us
on
these
four
years
of
settlement
agreements
that
were
not
approved
by
city
council,
you
came
forward
and
worked
quickly
with
us
and
we
resolved
the
problem,
and
so
somehow
we
need
to
institutionalize
and
we
need
a
solution
for
how
to
prevent
that
in
the
future.
L
L
The
council
should
know
about
again
we're
talking
about
Apple
or
not.
Are
you
used
to
complaint
by
employee
I?
Guess
an
administrator
whatever?
Whatever
I
we
don't
even
I,
don't
really
care
about
that.
That
goes
to
rush
the
process,
but
the
Department
of
Justice
investigation,
I,
guess
the
city
of
Tampa,
Police,
Department
or
against
the
city's
Tampa's
Administration
yeah.
That's
something
that
the
councils
know
about.
L
So
it's
not
about
what
you
can't
do,
but
I
see
something
we
can't
do
here.
I
think
we're
talking
about
two
different
types:
the
app
on
the
orange
I
think
we
look
at
the
Orange.
The
other
things
are
I
would
say.
Employee
type
issue,
investigations
versus
a
magnitude
of
a
city,
investigation
from
an
outside
agencies-
or
you
know,
I-
think
that's
a
different
type
of
investigation,
so
I
can
concur
with
some.
J
J
G
J
Eight
years,
wow,
seven
years
because
it
happened
last
year,
is-
is
not
good.
There's
nothing
good
about
that
and
yeah.
We
should
have
found
out
about
it
ahead
of
time
when
stuff
like
this
comes
in
front
of
us-
and
you
say
it's
it's
a
rarity,
but
unfortunately
we're
finding
out
that
it's
not
every
seven
years.
It's
not
acceptable
or
twice
in
seven
years,
so
I
would
want
something
not
just
coming
back
saying
what
you
can
do
but
saying
what
what
we
will
be.
J
Writing
what
the
ordinance
will
say
to
make
sure
that
council
is
notified,
Within
These,
10
days
for
a
civil
rights
investigation
pertaining
to
this,
the
city
of
Tampa,
not
its
employees,
but
the
city
of
Tampa,
because
I
believe
that's
what
the
Department
of
Justice
investigation
was
about
correct
the
city,
not
employees,
correct
so
I
think
we
could
differentiate
that
I.
Don't
think
I
think
that's
what
we're
all
trying
to
say
here.
J
So
I
would
like
to
go
even
stronger
than
a
recommendation
and
have
you
come
back
with
with
an
actual
ordinance
that
would
do
that
and
then
we
could
can
talk
about
the
specifics.
Then.
E
G
K
Thought
I
heard
anyway.
What
I
like
to
know
is
when,
when
these
things
happen
for
an
investigation
from
any
federal
agencies
that
have
some
jurisdictional
power
within
the
courts
and
so
forth,
I
guess
that's
what
this
is
against
a
city,
not
in
the
individuals.
It
gives
an
entity
of
the
city.
How
is
it
framed?
I
don't
know.
Does
it
does
it
specifically
say
what
it's
all
about
and
who
is
involved
and
so
forth?
And
so
on?
I,
don't
know.
V
Well,
what
I
can
tell
you
in
this
case
again
the
Department
of
Justice
basically
sent
the
city
a
letter
notifying
the
city
that
they
were
going
to
investigate.
They
specifically
reference
the
series
of
articles
that
had
been
written
by
the
Tampa
Bay
Times,
and
they
said
they
were
going
to
investigate
the
incidents
you
know
reflected
in
that,
and
then
they
also
asked
the
city
that
letter
included
a
very
long
list
of
records
that
they
asked
the
city
to
produce
which
the
city
did
promptly.
K
V
K
K
E
Sorry
I
just
had
to
ask:
are
there
any
other
investigations
that
you're
aware
of
from
the
Department
of
Justice
or
or
FDLE
right
now
you
know
they're
they're,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussions
about
single
big
contracts
and
Insider
deals,
and
things
like
that
with
the
last
two
administrations
a
lot.
A
lot
of
people
have
come
to
me
and
said
they've
reported
to
various
agencies.
E
E
Let's
say
it's
about
purchasing
or
something
how
it
so
that
wouldn't
I
I
would
I
I
guess
the
maybe
the
motion
I
would
make
is
if
the
city
is
under
investigation
by
the
you
in
any
form
by
the
U.S
Department
of
Justice
or
FDLE,
that
we
would
be
notified,
not
individuals,
but
if
the
city
was
being
investigated,
that
would
be
notified.
G
T
I
I'm
I'm
curious
as
to
how
this
would
be
put
in
the
form
of
an
ordinance
I'm.
Listening
to
this
discussion
and
I
I
understand
the
situation,
but
how
do
you,
how
is
it
I
mean
even
if
it
was
an
ordinance?
The
question
is:
what
is
the
remedy
with
the
ordinance
as
opposed
to
creating
a
policy
or
an
agreement
between
an
Administration
with
this
Council
you
could,
you
could
put
it
in
the
form
of
an
ordinance
But.
Ultimately,
what's
the
remedy?
That's
going
to
be
sure
to
make
what
you
want
to
have
accomplished
accomplished.
T
Because
it's
this
would
be
a
rather.
This
would
be.
This
is
a
very
specific
issue
that
I
would
agree
with
the
city
attorney
whether
an
ordinance
would
actually
be
something
that
would
really
address
this
issue
in
the
way
that
you
want
I'm,
not
questioning
what
you
want
to
have
accomplished.
I'm
just
saying,
is
what
is
the
most
effective,
consistent
assurance
that
you
will
get
what
you
want,
having
something
on
the
books
or
is
there
another
way
that
it
can
be
accomplished
through
with
this
administration?
Because,
if.
T
E
Mean
there's
the
charter
issue
of
whether
we
have
Andrea
putner.
Remember
the
charter
issue
about
whether
we
can
instruct
the
I
mean
is
it?
Is
it
possible
to
instead
of
saying
the
mayor
must
inform
us
that
staff
must
inform
us
or
the
City
attorney
and
City
attorney
technically
reports
to
us
shouldn't?
We
can
we
write
an
ordinance
to
require
the
City
attorney
to
inform
us
about
their
they're
being
informed
of
a
federal
or
FDLE
investigation.
J
T
If
This
Were,
if
you
were
a
a
board
and
a
city
manager,
form
of
government
and
you
had
a
city
manager,
then
that
would
be
one
thing.
I
can
I
know.
There
are
other
strong
mayor
forms
of
government
not
only
in
this
state
but
throughout
this
country
that
have
to
deal
with
things,
probably
fortunately,
for
the
City
of
Tampa
that
deal
with
other
cities,
a
lot
more
that
the
Department
of
Justice
dealing
with
the
cities
a
lot
more
than
Tampa
there
has
got
to
be
it
raises.
T
T
R
O
L
G
L
In
our
our
Charter,
it's
just
exactly
over
elected
mayor,
but
I
do
believe
if
the
orders
dictates
to
where
the
mayor
and
the
City
attorney
must
notify
this
Council.
Now
you
have
two
people
accountable,
because
you
see
the
attorney
also
the
word
I've
been
using
represents
the
city.
L
So
if
the
City
attorney
represents
the
city
per
se,
then
the
City
attorney
should
be
in
that
order,
because
the
mayor
is
going
to
give
the
City
attorney
this
from
a
Department
of
Justice
investigation.
So
I
believe
that
the
firmish
needs
to
have
the
City
attorney
be
responsible
with,
along
with
the
mayor
or
the
administration,
to
notify
this
Council
of
those
type
of
Investigations.
So
that
way,
you
have
two
people
accountable
to
make
sure
that
the
council
is
aware
of
any
type
of
investigation
that
magnitude
councilman
beer.
R
That's
what
we're
looking
at,
which
is
not
not
the
10
suggestions
but
the
Ten
Commandments,
and
whether
the
Ten
Commandments
come
through
an
ordinance
or
whether
they
come
through
something
else,
something
that
is
enforceable
and
something
that
is
workable
and
consistent
with
applicable
law.
I
think
that's
what
we're
all
looking
at
and
if
there's
something
we're.
R
Not
thinking
of
you
know,
that's
fine,
but
but
I
I
think
we
all
support
having
some
sort
of
enforced
enforceable
tool
whatever
it
may
be,
to
have
noticed
the
city
council
and-
and
so
that's
that's
the
way,
I
kind
of
see
the
motion
and
and
just
to
move
it
forward
and
whatnot.
E
E
So
I'll
just
make
a
motion
to
ask
the
City
attorney
to
return
on
March
2nd
to
with
a
draft
ordinance
that
would
require
the
City
attorney
to
inform
City
Council
within
10
days
of
the
receipt
of
a
letter
or
notice
of
Investigation
of
the
city,
not
individuals
by
the
United
States
Department
of
Justice
or
FDLE
par
Department
law
enforcement,
Florida
department,
law
enforcement.
O
R
And
just
very
briefly,
so
we
can
move
this
forward
so
councilman
Carlson.
Are
you
saying
that
in
your
preface
to
that
that
if
there
are
discussions
in
between
on
some
other
because
again,
I
I
just
want
to
get
this
done
not
only
today
in
terms
of
getting
out
I'm
talking
about
get
something
done,
that
is
enforceable,
whether
it's
an
order
or
something
we're
not
thinking
of.
Is
that
kind
of
what
you're
thinking
of
yeah.
E
My
we've
we've
had
this
on
the
agenda
twice,
and
so,
if
we
can
it
I
I
would
like
to
approve
at
first
reading,
something
ideally
on
on
March
2nd.
So
if
you
come
up
with
a
better
idea
before,
then
then
why
don't
you
come
if
you
don't
mind,
come
to
us
individually
and
at
the
very
next
meeting
I
or
someone
can
make
a
motion
to
replace
that
one,
and
we
could
also
change
the
dates,
but
I
mean
just
to
be
honest.
We
don't
know
what
council
is
going
to
look
like
after
May
1st.
M
R
M
N
Yes,
ma'am
good
afternoon,
Kayla
mccaskill,
you
know,
I,
think
it's
a
shame
that
you
even
have
to
do
this
I
just
believe.
As
a
leader
of
this
city,
you
should
want
to
convey
that
information
to
you
all
should
want
to
tell
the
public.
You
just
want
to
tell
everybody
in
in
making
the
decision.
I
know,
they'll
come
back
and
I'm
so
happy
that
all
of
you
saw
a
reasonable
to
push
for
what
you
wanted
and
not
let
legal
come
back
and
tell
you
all
that
I
think
oftentimes.
N
They
don't
factor
in
what
we've
been
through
in
this
city.
We
went
through
a
lot.
I
mean
it
was
just
absolute
hell
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
so
much
so
that
the
mayor
said
in
April
of
last
year.
She
called
that
press
conference
asking
or
encouraging
to
enhance
transparency
and
accountability.
I
saw
in
an
article
this
week.
Just
this
week.
She
admitted
that
communication
could
have
been
improved
in
her
last
term.
N
I
believe
that
that's
her
effort
as
much
as
I
probably
criticized
her
I'm,
hoping
that
that
was
her
effort
to
try
to
get
this
lack
of
trust
and
lack
of
transparency
and
accountability
right.
That's
one
big
step
is
huge
for
her
to
admit
it.
So
it's
another
step
for
us
to
actually
see
what
you're
going
to
do.
Not
only
do
we
want
to
ordinance
or
policy
or
whatever
that's
going
to
look
like,
but
I
want
to
know
from
the
administration.
N
What
are
you
going
to
do
to
enhance
transparency
and
accountability
that
whole
veto
thing
that
shot
that
in
the
foot?
This
is
your
next
opportunity
to
try
to
get
transparency
and
accountability
and
improving
communication
I
want
to
know
how
you're
going
to
do
that.
We
all
want
to
live
in
a
piece.
You
know,
contrary
to
popular
belief,
I
want
to
live
peacefully.
Amongst
you
know
everybody.
So
I
would
like
to
see
you
improve
in
the
area
that
you
admitted
there's
problems
which
is
communication
and
then
also
work
on
that
transparency
and
accountability.
Thank
you.
U
Good
afternoon,
Stephanie
Poyner,
you
know
we
talked
about
the
two
incidents
here
where
the
doj's
been
here,
but
what
I
think
is
interesting
is
I
just
learned
a
couple
weeks
ago
that
the
mayor
was
like
a
monitor
for
Miami
for
their
doj
investigation,
like
she
got
paid
a
lot
of
money
when
she
was
running
for.
U
So
I
would
think
that
she
would
know
as
well
as
anybody
what
the
Citizens
need
to
know,
because
there
was
some
hubbub
as
part
of
that
her
150
an
hour
job
that
she
was
doing.
While
she
was
running
for
mayor
that
that
you
would
think
that
she
would
know
what
the
citizens
want
to
know.
As
somebody
who
has
monitored
a
city
that
had
an
issue
I,
don't
know
it's
just
something
to
think
about.
Y'all
have
a
great
day
I'm
going
home.
M
Thank
you
very
much.
Anybody
else,
any
other
discussion.
Thank
you
very
much.
We
move
on
to
item
number
nine.
This
is
TNI
staff
city
clerk's
office
in
legal
to
report
on
the
costs
and
feasibility
and
council
chambers
have
staff
reports
to
be
held
on
a
separate
day
other
than
Thursdays.
Who
would
like
to
take
this
item
because
it's
a
group
of
individuals,
Mr
Shelby?
M
Right
we'll
come
back
until
she
said:
he'll
be
30
minutes
at.
M
Next
item
is
initiated
by
council
member
Viera
who
stepped
out
yes.
This
is
I
mean
the.
T
T
P
W
Good
afternoon
Shirley
Fox
no
city
clerk.
This
is
regarding
a
an
additional
meeting
for
Council
and
as
far
as
the
our
position,
the
city
clerk's
office
position.
W
Basically
Staffing
is
not
available
to
cover
an
additional
meeting,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
goes
on.
In
the
background
to
process
meetings
each
week,
Council
already
added
a
commendation
session.
That
brings
the
meetings
for
Council
to
seven
per
month
to
regular
sessions
to
evening
sessions,
one
CRA
Session
One
Commendation
session
and
one
Workshop
session.
W
This
does
not
include
special
call
meetings
or
additional
night
meetings
that
may
be
requested.
Our
office
also
covers
the
board
meeting,
such
as
code
enforcement,
special
magistrate
meetings,
citizen
review
board
civil
service
and
the
budget
advisory
session
staff
needs
ample
time
for
pre-meeting
prep,
as
well
as
post
meeting
work
for
each
meeting.
Additional
staff
will
need
to
be
hired
and
trained
to
assist
with
any
additional
meeting.
W
Our
recommendation
would
be
to
have
staff
report
sessions
to
replace
Workshop
sessions.
This
will
call
for
excellent
planning
and
moving
some
item
items
out
further
similar
to
the
court
system.
If
a
subject
matter
such
as
Land
Development
amendments
need
to
be
Workshop,
then
a
special
call
Workshop
can
be
scheduled.
W
W
J
O
W
We
have
a
deputy
out
right
now,
I
think
we're
okay,
we
we
do
our
very
best
we're
trying
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
city's
resources
and
everybody's
doing
their
part.
If
we
need
additional
staff,
we'll
ask.
J
So
to
follow
up
on
that,
because
I
mean
you
bring
up
a
really
interesting
point
of
having,
instead
of
a
workshop
session,
to
actually
move
oh
gosh,
it
the
staff
reports
to
a
different
day
and
then
hold
special
call
sessions
for
particular
subjects.
J
If,
if
we
were
to
to
start
that
model,
I
would
be
more
comfortable
doing
so
with
adding
another
staff
member,
because
I
can
see
right
now
that
we
would
have
special
calls.
That
would
be
something
we
would
do
so
so,
if,
if
we,
if
we
were
to
adopt
a
similar
model
and
I,
would
want
to
do
so
with
the
appropriate
staff,
if,
if
say,
we
would
have
a
special
call,
maybe
every
other
month
would
one
additional
staff
member
be
enough
to
make
sure
the
load
is
equal.
W
You
don't
call
a
special
call
meetings
every
other
month,
I
mean
you
will
call
it
for
special
items,
so
right
now,
I
would
really
just
hold
off
okay
on
doing
anything
and
really
what
I
was
saying
was
to
replace
staff
meetings
in
in
place
of
the
workshop
meetings.
Sometimes
staff
meetings
end
up
being
Workshop
meetings.
It's
true
so
and
if
you
do
that,
I
would
limit
it
so
that
you
won't.
W
J
And
I
have
one
more
question:
if
you
don't
mind,
that's
a
little
off
topic,
but
we
noticed
it
twice
today
that
several
of
the
Powerpoints
or
the
reports
were
not
available
in
sire
ahead
of
time.
What
is
your
general
rule
about
when
things
need
to
be
to
you,
insire.
J
Generally,
it's
Friday,
if
I'm
not
mistaken
and
is
there
is
currently
no
no
real
stick
as
you
were
carrot
and
stick
there's,
no
there's!
No,
nothing!
That
really
requires
someone
to
have
something
in
by
a
certain
time.
Is
there.
W
We
would
want
it,
I
mean
there
is
a
cut
off
for
when
you
would
have
to
walk
in
a
certain
item,
but
I
would
say
as
early
as
possible
that
it
has
to
be
approved
by
the
chair.
Yeah.
J
W
Have
ceiling
here
something
I.
L
L
Make
sure
that
you
you're
the
most
sweetest
lady
I
know
humbles
can
be,
but
you
need
more
staff
over
there.
You
have
an
employee
who's
been
out
for
almost
two
and
a
half
every
three
years.
That's
a
slot!
That's
down
it's
a
slot!
That's
down
the
city
is
growing
public
records.
People
are
coming
in
more
frequent
for
the
clerk's
office.
L
You
have
workers
who
who
do
extra
for
this
Council
I'm
appreciative
of
them
all
I
know
how
the
system
works,
but
you
need
more
staff
and
surely
this
the
city
has
grown
and
you
need
some
more
help.
Over
there
I
watched
it,
I've
watched
the
ladies
work.
I've
watched
their
work
and
again
you
have
an
employee
who's
been
out
for
a
long
time.
That's
a
slot
that
someone
can
be
doing
some
work.
L
So
it's
your
department
and
I
have
to
respect
that,
but
I
have
to
look
at
what
I
see
and
also
what
I
hear
and
for
me
to
get
the
job
done,
that
this
Council
really
needs
I,
truly
believe
you
need
more
people
and
I'm
Gonna
Stand
by
that.
But
it's
your
department,
you
you're
working
every
day,
but
I,
know
what
I
hear.
L
A
All
right
soon
Lucas
Deputy
city
clerk.
To
answer
your
question,
councilmember
hurricane
council
did
make
a
motion
a
while
back
to
have
staff
submit
any
Powerpoints
and
memorandums
the
Thursday
before
the
draft
is
released.
Was
the
that
Friday?
The
draft
is
released,
I
can
say:
Administration
staff
has
been
very
good
at
submitting
those
documents.
There
are
times
that
they
have
last
minute
documents
that
need
to
be
submitted,
and
that's
why
it
does
not
get
to
us
in
a
desire.
So
I
can't
say
they
have
been
very
diligent
in
getting
those
documents
to
us.
J
Thank
you
so
much
I
and
and
I
know,
because
I
know
we've
talked
about
folks
and-
and
this
is
it's
come
in
front
of
council
before,
but
I
just
thought.
It
was
very
interesting
that
on
a
day,
we
only
had
10
well
yeah,
10
things
that
two
of
two
of
them
were
missing
from
like
preview
and
things
like
that,
but
not
your
fault.
Obviously,
but
just
you
know,
maybe
it
may
be
a
good
time
to
remind
staff
that
it
is
really
helpful
for
us
so
and
actually
really
speeds
up
things.
J
We
can.
We
have
to
ask
fewer
questions
if
we're
prepared
in
advance
because
oftentimes,
then
we
can
have
our
questions
answered
in
advance.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
update.
Thank
you.
Both.
M
Thank
you
very
much.
Would
this
also
be
sufficient
for
number
10,
or
is
that
a
separate
discussion
regarding
staff
reports?
Anybody.
T
T
T
14
items
and
I
understand
the
two
of
them
might
be
continued
and
again,
when
you
have
on
the
23rd
of
February,
just
as
you
have
tonight,
you
have
in
an
hour,
you
have
your
evening
meeting
started.
So
it's
a
busy
place.
This
certainly
is.
There
was
some
discussion.
T
That
being
up,
we
have
almost
a
full
Council
Mr
chairman
I
was
just
discussing
the
concept.
I
was
just
discussing
the
concept
that
was
raised
at
the
special
discussion
meeting
about
returning
commendations
to
a
regular
meeting
day,
limiting
the
amount
of
commendations
limiting
the
amount
of
time,
perhaps
creating
different
categories
of
commendations
and
having
a
certain
criteria,
perhaps
and
have
different
facets,
perhaps
a
a
different
kind
of
recognition
for
off-site
or
commendations,
but
for
in-person
commendations
to
be
able
to
return
them
to
a
regular
meeting
day,
and
you
had
raised
the
issue
Mr
chair.
T
T
Because
commendations
will
be
coming
lengthy
because
also
lengthy
in
number,
and
also
lengthy
in
time
there
was
also
the
concept
of
the
way
you
have
it.
Now
you
have
the
police
department
on
a
monthly
basis,
whereas
you
have
the
firefighters
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
I
understand
ATU
is
I.
Don't
know
is
that
bi-monthly
or
monthly
bi-monthly
it's
by
month,
so
every
every
one
of
them
is
on
a
different
schedule
which
affects
how
your
meetings
flow
and
the
addition
of
the
community
recognition
for
each
recipient.
The
line
so.
L
L
L
Disagree
because
the
timeline,
because
you
can't
gauge
how
long
the
time
will
be
once
you
have
a
presentation
or
maybe
two
presentations
and
then
accommodations.
You
know
and
then
public
comment
by
public
comment.
I
forgot.
L
A
L
K
We
used
to
have
the
items
done
individually.
There
was
no
40
to
57,
you
had
a
boat
on
each
one
individually
and
we
never
left
therapists.
One
o'clock
in
the
afternoon.
Things
are
different,
I
understand
that
and
technology.
In
fact,
the
clerk's
office
had
a
run
and
we
had
to
help
them
with
the
a
b
dick
machine
to
print
out
the
agenda.
It
was
done
right
back
here
on
what
do
you
call
those
things.
K
K
J
J
We
have
a
timer,
we
ought
to
use
it
five
minutes
and
then
five
minutes
for
us
to
you
know,
say
great
and
ask
some
questions
and
the
other
thing
we
do
with
commendations
is
we
do
let
them
go
out
long
and
then
each
of
us
has
to
say
something.
That's
new.
We
didn't
do
that
before.
J
So
maybe
just
a
nice
round
of
applause
and
we
move
on
and
and
if
we
only
do
three
at
a
time,
we
really
are
moving
things
along
a
lot
of
these
commendations,
while
wonderful
can
be
done
off-site
for
certain
events,
but
and
I
also
think
we
talked
about
limiting
the
number
of
commendations
that
a
council
member
can
give
out
in
a
year
which
would
then
allow
all
of
those
people
to
make
their
way
here.
J
J
However,
Miss
Fox
Knowles
gave
me
an
idea.
We
already
have
that
Commendation
day
right
now.
We
we
did
a
lot
of
makeup
for
for
land
use
issues.
We
may
have
to
do
a
few
makeup
Council
sessions
to
get
this
stuff
down
to
a
reasonable
space
and
I.
Think
that
a
comment
that
Commendation
day
space
might
be
good
for
trying
to
get
some
of
this
stuff
out
of
the
way.
J
Does
that
make
any
sense
to
try
to
consolidate
a
little
bit
and
then
maybe,
like
she
said,
hold
those
that
for
a
special
call
meeting
on
some
of
these
topics?
F
Morris
Massey
from
the
legal
department-
and
we
were
also
asked
to
give
input
on
this
and
to
your
point,
councilwoman
hertak
and
as
suing
mentioned,
we
we
are
endeavoring.
The
legal
department
works
with
you
all
and
with
the
administration
to
try
to
make
sure
that
things
get
uploaded
into
the
agenda
and
desire.
So
you
all
have
the
appropriate
backup
at
least
a
week
in
advance.
We
really
do
and
we
I
mean
every
week
I.
We
have
a
legal
department
meeting
where
a
good
portion
of
the
meeting
is
going
through.
F
All
your
emotions
going
through
all
the
matters
that
are
on
the
agenda,
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
tracking
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
items
done
in
a
timely
fashion
so
that
it
can
get
uploaded.
So
you
all
have
time
to
look
at
it
in
advance
of
the
meeting.
The
one
concern
that
we
do
have,
if
we
add
another
meeting
where
we're
doing
staff
reports,
Workshop
items,
that's
going
to
be
another
deadline
in
the
process
where
it
and
we're
already
having
a
difficult
time,
sometimes
keeping
up
with
the
deadlines
for
the
workload.
B
R
You,
sir,
a
couple
of
things
you
know
I
and
and
the
the
next
one
down
I
talked
about
or
before
I
don't
know
when
it's
here
about
staff
reports
and
kind
of
following
the
rules
that
we
have,
which
are
very,
very
difficult
to
follow.
So
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
looking
at
the
chair
chairman
Citra,
does
a
great
job
when
I
was
chair,
I
found
it
hard
to.
You
know
limit
it
within
there,
but
if
we
reform
the
rules
to
accept
reality
and
say,
staff
reports
aren't
going
to
be
five
minutes.
R
Let's
say
10
minutes
total
with
one
or
two
minutes
of
of
commenting.
If
it
goes
further
than
that,
then
it
should
be
a
workshop.
We
can
do
that.
Yes,
the
city
is
growing
a
big
deal
significantly,
but
Council
meetings
have
grown
far
vast
beyond
what
the
city
is
growing.
I
always
I
always
like
to
use
sayings
with
weight
sizes,
which
is
if
a
year
ago
you
were
size
36
and
now
your
size
42.
R
The
answer
to
that
isn't
to
buy
size,
44
pants,
it's
to
maybe
go
back
to
36
or
38
or
40
or
whatever.
It
may
be
that
that's
the
way
that
I
see
this
and
the
biggest
the
the
saddest
thing
of
it
all
is
that
a
lot
of
the
public
that
has
business
before
Council,
for
which
they're
paying
bringing
Advocates
and
Attorneys
at
three
four
hundred
dollars
an
hour
are
sitting
here
waiting
six
seven,
eight
nine
hours
at
a
time,
I,
don't
think
we
need
another
Council
day.
R
R
If
we
Implement
reasonable
rules
for
staff
reports
limit
the
number
of
Staff
reports
reasonably
limit
the
time
for
staff
reports
with
acknowledgment
that
some
will
will,
you
know,
be
hot
ticket
items
and
I
think
we
all
respect
that
and
then,
with
commendations
limit
the
number
of
commendations
we
have
in
council
chambers
to
whatever
the
number
is
five
a
year
whatever
it
may
be,
so
that
they're
really
really
special
they're
all
special
but
they're,
uniquely
special
and
and
whatnot,
then
I
I
think
that'll
do
the
job,
and
we
also
acknowledge
that
the
the
chairman
Central,
whoever
the
chair
will
be
at
that
time,
will
have
a
very
difficult
job
in
implementing
it
because
it's
it's
going
to
require
in
his
or
her
part,
making
sure
that
that
people
keep
in
line
to
new
rules
which
is
not
easy
but
I.
R
B
B
J
Yeah,
so
so,
don't
add
another
Lane,
don't
spend
the
money
to
add
another
Lane
spend
the
money
to
figure
out
how
to
move
it
more
wisely,
I
just
you.
You
reminded
me
of
a
good
point
too
that
if
we
move
the
staff
reports
to
the
afternoon
and
then
that
way,
the
folks
who
are
waiting
can
get
that
stuff
done.
J
B
Miss
Shirley
I
was
I
had
radio
here
back
when
I
was
on
my
conference
call,
so
one
year
was
from
I
was
gone
one
year
was
this
in
fact
I.
Thank
you.
I
know
that
the
expenditures
and
I
know
the
the
Staffing
time
are
going
to
be
a
big
drain
on
the
city
and
your
office,
Legal
Office.
Of
course,
let's
not
forget
about
I.T.
B
B
B
B
B
We
can
come
up
here
and
say
aye
what?
No?
Let's
change?
Don't
circumvent
the
rules
of
procedures
change
them.
We
also
need
to
keep
our
discussions
on
what's
at
hand,
and
that
is
our
agenda.
Maybe,
instead
of
having
five
minutes
for
everybody
to
discuss
something
what's
on
our
agenda,
let's
have
it
cut
down
to
two
minutes
that
way
we
can
keep
our
city
moving.
B
Keep
our
agenda
moving,
I,
don't
mind:
I'm
I'm,
a
full-time
worker
here,
I'll
spend
seven
days
a
week
here,
but
I
know
that
Miss
Shirley
Fox
Noel
is
not
going
to
want
to
do
that.
I
know
that
it's
not
going
to
do
that
if
we
can
condense
our
time
so
that
we
could
stick
to
the
agenda
I
think
we
can
shave
a
lot
of
time.
Anybody
else
have
any
more
comments.
Questions
acknowledgments.
J
T
B
T
T
That's
very
engaged
in
dialogue
with
each
other
and
also
asking
questions
and
getting
answers
which
then,
and
that
came
up
during
the
special
discussion
meeting-
generate
more
comments
from
Council
Members,
because
it's
the
only
opportunity
you
have
to
Talk
Amongst
yourselves
and
to
hear
what
other
council
members
questions
are
and
what
the
answers
are.
So
it's
a
very
difficult
role
that
that
the
chair
has,
and
it's
a
very
to
be
able
to
enforce
these
things,
but
I
will
certainly
make
the
rules
consistent
with
what
council
wants.
You
can
actually
and
I've
read
other
jurisdictions
rules.
T
Some
of
them
have
do
actually
limit
the
number
of
of
commendations
or
staff
reports
and
the
like.
So
it's
not
unheard
of,
but
the
thing
is
this
council
is
also
a
very
accommodating
to
each
other
when
motions
are
made
and
the
question
then
is
then,
if
somebody
wants
to
make
an
exception,
for
instance,
even
with
a
number
of
Staff
reports,
something
is
very
pressing
to
your
constituents.
T
It
you
cannot
wait
till
the
next
month
to
have
that
heard,
because
it
needs
to
be
heard
as
soon
as
possible.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
variables,
as
the
chair
had
said,
that
go
into
this
meeting,
but
I'm
happy
to
to
be
able
to
make
the
rules
consistent
with
what
council's
desire
is,
because
once
again
as
I
always
say
it's
your
meeting,
because
we
want
her
attack.
J
So
I
have
an
emotion,
I'll,
just
try
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
I
make
a
motion
that
we
that
the
city
council
attorney
come
back
to
us
with
changing
the
rules
in
the
procedures,
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
require
to
allow
five
minutes
for
special
presentations
at
the
beginning,
with
five
minutes
additional
for
Council
comments,
only
three
10-minute
accommodations
commendations
for
each
meeting,
with
no
comments
from
Council
and
then
to
move
no
more
than
10
staff
reports.
After
other
City
business
has
been
finished.
B
L
B
J
That
that's
a
very
good
point,
I
believe
someone
in
our
special
session
even
brought
up
the
idea
of
those
gifts
being
given
afterwards,
maybe
downstairs
in
the
sister
cities
room
so
that
it's
not
something
that
we
all
have
to
sit
through
again,
just
just
in
the
interest
of
time,
not
in
the
interest
of
not
celebrating
these
these
folks,
but
we
really
have
to
be
able
to
rein
it
in
so
that
we
can
get
the
city's
business
done
and
having
a
whole
nother
Day
means
more
staff
means
more.
R
You
know
I
I'm
gonna
vote
for
whatever
is
out
because
I
think
that
Marty's
going
to
be
talking
with
us,
I
I,
don't
think
that
it's
wise
to
cut
out
the
gifts.
It's
it's
literally,
probably
three
minutes
and
and
again
and
I
respect
the
sentiments.
110,
but
I
suggest
an
interest
of
time.
We
move
something
forward.
Mr
Shelby
works
on
it.
It
comes
back
to
us
and-
and
he
can
talk
to
individual
council
members
on
what
they
like
and
then
come
back
with
something.
K
Yes,
we
have
a
motion
made
I
agree
with
councilman
goose,
time-wise,
it's
not
going
to
work,
I
mean
you
can
Theory
look
nice,
but
an
application.
It's
not
going
to
work
I'm
not
going
to
vote
against
it,
but
I'm
telling
you
right
now,
then,
not
only
that
first
we
had
the
managers
and
their
department
heads
and
the
back
of
the
come
to
the
front.
So
they
can
go
back
to
work,
but
by
the
time
we
get
to
them
they
should
have
been
at
work.
So
we're
not
we're
not
facilitating
what
we
said
ourselves.
K
B
Right
then,
if,
if,
if,
if
we
we're
talking,
we
have
a
motion,
Mr
Shelby
will
bring
it
back
to
us.
He
can
discuss
it
with
us
individually.
Any
more
comment
on
the
motion.
R
Vera,
thank
you
very
much,
sir
I
I
I
have
to
leave
really
fast
to
have
to
give
actually
accommodation
that
I
have
to.
If
I
may
make
a
really
quick
motion
for
it.
It's
not
controversial,
really
fast
I.
It's
funny.
R
I
wanted
to
wait
to
do
this
until
after
filing
was
done,
because
this
gentleman
was
rumored
to
be
filing
for
city
council,
so
I
don't
want
to
bring
this
forward,
but
it's
the
10th
anniversary
of
Sean
Harrison's
Law
Firm,
former
straight
rep,
former
state
city
council,
was
going
to
give
an
accommodation
for
10
years.
Just
that's
it
a.
M
What
is
this
resolution?
It's.
T
B
K
Thank
you,
sir
I
have
two
sir.
Thank
you
one.
On
119
of
22
an
evening
meeting
I
made
a
motion
to
present
a
combination
to
miscillating
shrinker
for
a
retirement
32
years
of
service,
the
Tampa
Housing
Authorities,
director
of
public
relations.
I,
would
like
to
present
that
combination
here
on
Council
on
February
7th
to
23.
B
We're
most
made
by
Calvin
Vera
seconded
by
councilman
Goods,
all
in
favor
Miranda
seconded
by
gals.
W
K
Did
this
last
year
and
the
young
people
that
worked
so
so
hard
to
put
this
together,
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
present
combination
to
Isabel
I
think
as
before,
a
senior
Academy
holy
name
for
winning
the
gold
medal.
That's
USS,
Tampa,
post
five
oratorical
contests
and
another
combination
to
Emily
peaky,
a
sophomore
at
Cambridge
Christian
School
for
winning
the
silver
medal
for
the
USS
post
number
five
oratorical
contest
to
assist
the
students
and
their
parents.
I
would
like
to
make
this
presentation
on
the
evening
of
February
9
2022.
K
G
J
Yes,
I
would
like
to
present
a
commendation
to
the
women's
history
committee
at
the
26th
annual
annual
women's
History
Month,
celebrate
Nation
on
March
1st
2023
that
will
be
off
site
and
I
will
have
you
know.
I
have
been
with
you
all
for
nine
months
now.
This
is
my
first
Commendation
exactly.
M
Would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
present
a
commendation
at
Tampa
Pride
at
the
regular
session
council
meeting
on
March
16th
in
order
of
their
upcoming
celebration
on
March
25th
and
for
their
continued
service
to
the
community.
I
was
going
to
present
it
at
the
event,
but
they
really
wanted
to
have
it
done
at
that
regular
session,
but
it'll
be
quick.
Second,.
B
Motion
made
by
councilman
mascalco
seconded
by
councilman,
Miranda,
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
any
opposed
motion
passes.
That's
a
councilman
Carlson
councilman
Miranda.
You
are
giving
the
proclamation
to
the
crew
of
Santiago.
On
behalf
of
the
mayor.
That's
February,
2nd
I,
believe
February,
2nd
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
present
accommodation
to
the
crew
of
Santiago.
During
that
Proclamation
proceedings
on
February,
2nd
yeah.
B
K
M
T
This
is
a
resolution
amending
the
rules
of
procedure
specifically
handling
remote
participation
by
council
members.
It
includes
now
the
communications
media
technology
for
quasi-judicial.
This
will
be
able
to
save
time
by
not
having
the
guidelines.
Wait,
wait
and
wait.
There's
more.
It
also
includes
quasi
judicial
CMT
for
the
general
public,
and
importantly,
it
has
the
council's
Direction
with
requests
to
continue
public
hearings
that
that
it
will
be
deemed.
T
If
a
request
is
made
it'll
and
there's
been
two
previous
occasions,
it
will
be
deemed
withdrawn
and
dismissed
petition
unless
wave
to
extraordinary
and
unavoidable
circumstances
that
city
council
determines
in
its
sole
discretion
something
else
that
was
added.
No
continuance
shall
be
granted
at
a
quasi-judicial
public
hearing
after
the
petitioner
or
the
applicant
has
completed
its
initial
presentation.
T
So
you
won't
be
in
that
position
now
of
having
to
hear
the
whole
thing
and
then
have
a
petitioner
request,
a
continuance
at
the
end,
because
it'll
be
set
out
in
the
rules
that
they'll
know
that
they
want
to
do
it.
They
have
to
do
it
up
front,
but
they
only
get
two
bites
and
that
I'd
like
to
have
ask
it
to
be
added
to
next
week's
meeting.
So
you
can
read
it
by
title,
so
we
can
have
it
begin
to
take
effect
after
it's
read
at
the
next
consecutive
meeting.