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A
A
B
B
B
D
You
very
much
I
have
two
introductions
to
make
first
I'd
like
to
welcome
I'm,
muted,
our
friend
and
a
friend
of
the
community
for
many
many
years,
Bishop
Tom,
Scott,
Bishop,
Thomas
Scott
from
the
34th
Street
Church
of
God
he's
no
stranger
here.
He
served
as
a
member
of
the
city
council
and
the
County
Commission
and
served
as
chairman,
multiple
times
elected
by
his
peers.
He
has
devoted
himself
to
this
community
and
giving
back.
D
B
You
thank
you
Mr
chairman,
and
to
the
councilman
thanks
for
the
invitation
to
come
to
be
here,
as
always,
an
honor
to
come
and
ask
God's
blessings
upon
you
and
the
work
that
you're
doing
for
this
community
for
this
city,
and
so
it
is
my
privilege
and
honor
to
be
here
today.
So
shall
we
pray
a
father,
we
are
always
reminded
of
what
your
word
tells
us
and
that
is
to
acknowledge
you
in
all
of
our
ways
and
you
will
give
directions
to
our
path
to
our
journey.
B
B
We
thank
you
for
our
nation
and
our
country.
Thank
you
for
America
for
what
she
stands
for.
All
persons
are
created
equal
in
your
sight,
and
we
thank
you
today
for
our
elected
officials
across
this
nation,
those
that
represent
us
in
Washington,
those
in
Tallahassee
and
those
here
in
the
city
council
today.
B
B
You
give
them
patience
and
I
prayed
that
as
they
worked
together,
there'll
be
men
and
women
of
Civility
and
men
and
women
of
courage
and
insight.
We
pray
now
that
you'll
bless
our
great
City
bless.
Our
mayor
bless
the
administration
and
we
pray
that
this
day
will
be
a
good
day.
As
the
city
council
go
through
the
agenda.
It
is
in
your
name
that
we
pray,
amen,
amen.
D
All
right
and
my
second
guest
today
is
a
local
architect
and
poet.
His
name
is
Matthew
Suarez
and
besides
architecture,
he
writes
poetry
that
is
specifically
dedicated
to
all
things:
Tampa,
historical
and
current,
and
since
it
is
parade
season
and
Gasparilla,
the
Gasparilla
Parade
is
this
weekend.
Along
with
all
the
other
parades
that
are
coming
coming
up
soon,
Matthew
wrote
a
poem
to
to
celebrate
this
occasion,
so
Mr
Schwartz,
if
you'd
like
to
come
up
sure.
D
E
So
thank
you
Council
for
the
invitation,
including,
of
course
councilman
councilman
escalco.
E
So
here
we
go
Gasparilla
it's
sale
into
Tampa
once
a
year,
a
Pirate
Invasion
that
bring
more
cheer
than
fear
Hillsboro
baby,
where
it
makes
its
start
it'd
be
from
here
that
a
Mystic
crew
play
the
pirate
part
above
aboard
the
Jose
Gasparilla.
They
chart
their
course.
Their
annual
intent
be
to
seize
the
city's
Key
by
friendly
Force
up
the
seat
and
channel
they
sail
to
the
city
they
will
invade
to
the
Tampa
Convention
Center.
They
travel
to
begin
their
raid
once
ashore
from
their
Journey
upon
the
high
the
high
Tampa
sea.
E
They
demand
the
mayor
of
Tampa
hand
over
the
key
with
cannon
fire
rumbling
in
the
near
distance.
A
troubled
mayor
surrenders
the
key.
Without
resistance
with
key
in
hand,
these
Mystic
Pirates
prepare
to
Stage
their
celebration,
an
occasion
marked
by
one
of
the
largest
parades
in
all
the
nation,
but
before
they
leave
their
place
of
Landing,
they
host
a
victory
brunch
in
the
city
they
now
be
commanding.
E
Then
the
time
finally
come
for
this
Mystic
crew
to
take
Tampa
by
parade
here
they
be
joined
by
many
other
Crews
to
conduct
this
part
of
their
annual
raid,
Bayshore
and
Beta
Bay
boulevards
be
where
they
all
begin.
This
journey
led
by
The
Mystic
crew.
That
include
more
than
one
Tampa
doctor
and
attorney
during
this
parade
that
follows
during
this
parade
that
follows
the
Bayshore
that
run
along
Hillsborough
Bay,
the
participating
Crews
put
Tampa's
history,
culture
and
spirit
on
full
display
for
the
people
of
Tampa.
E
They
create
a
festive
environment
that
is
filled
with
play
as
beads
and
coins
be
thrown
from
decorative
floats
throughout
the
day
from
the
ye
Mystic
crew
of
Gasparilla
Tampa's,
pirate
spirit
will
forever
grow.
From.
The
Rough
Riders
Tampa's
role
in
the
Spanish-American
war
never
lays
low
from
the
crew
of
Ebor.
Tampa
celebrates
its
culturally
diverse
past
from
the
crew
of
Santiago.
E
Tampa's
ties
to
Spain
will
always
last
it'd,
be
a
Tampa
tradition
that
started
in
1904
it'd,
be
a
Tampa
tradition
that
belongs
to
the
Bay
Shore
it'd,
be
a
Tampa
tradition
created
by
Dodge
and
Hardy
it'd,
be
a
Tampa
tradition
that
began
on
the
high
Tampa
sea.
It'd,
be
a
Tampa
tradition
that
feature
a
Mystic
pirate
parade
in
flotilla,
it'd
be
the
Tampa
tradition
known
as
Gasparilla.
C
A
C
F
C
F
H
Good
morning,
thank
you,
Mr
chairman
Martin,
Shelby
city
council
attorney,
very
briefly,
counsel.
The
public
comments
section
is
at
the
end
of
besides
at
the
beginning,
but
we'll
talk
about
that
later
in
the
agenda.
Public
comment
on
the
subject
of
the
workshop
will
be
taken
at
the
end
of
each
Workshop
item.
Please,
and
also
Council
I,
would
ask
that
Council
waive
the
rules
to
allow
the
continued
use
of
CMT
for
this
Workshop.
C
C
Shall
we
go
through
the
agenda
at
this
time?
I
think
there's
just
a
couple
clarifications:
Miss
Duncan
on
agenda
item
number.
One
has
requested
that
we
move
agenda.
Item
number
eight
to
go
ahead
with
and
coincide
with
the
agenda
item
number
one.
Is
there
any.
D
C
C
Do
I
have
a
sec.
Thank
you
very
much
motion
made
by
councilman
Maniscalco
seconded
by
councilman
Carlson,
all
in
favor
any
objection.
Thank
you
very
much.
Councilman
Vieira
is
also
agenda.
Item
number
seven.
There
is
a
Scribbler
scribbler's
error
and
that
he
would
like
to
have
that
continued
until
March
23rd.
Is
that
correct?
If
I
may?
Yes,
sir,.
I
C
Made
by
councilman
Vieira
seconded
by
councilman
Maniscalco,
all
in
favor,
is
there
any
objection?
Thank
you
motion
passes.
Does
any
other
council
member
see
any
councilman.
I
Carlson,
oh,
you
know
I
eventually,
if
I
may
sure,
yeah
I
know
that
it
should
be
elections
and
even
years
as
opposed
to
odd
years
just
for
the
clerk.
But
that's
all.
H
Right
well,
what
was
the
scriveness
ever
again?
Are
you
asking
the
clerk
to
correct
it,
I'm
just
going
to
be
clear
for
the
record,
so
it
should
say
having
the
city
of
Tampa
elections
in
even
years
as
opposed
to
our
ideas,
to
be
consistent
with
the
general
elections.
Is
that
part
of
your
motion?
Yes,
sir?
Thank
you
thank
you.
Did
you
catch
that
Madam
Clerk
around.
J
Yes,
thank
you
and
apologies
to
my
colleagues.
I
sent
a
memo
last
night,
but
I
would
like
to
remove
make
a
motion
to
remove
item
number
six,
the
when
we
set
this
date,
I
think
I
didn't
realize
that
we
would
all
be
in
the
middle
of
campaign
season
and
I.
Just
don't
think
it
because
of
the
politicized
environment.
J
I,
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
to
have
this
discussion
right
now
by
the
time
the
election
will
be
over
it'll
be
May
1st,
which
will
be
the
new
Council,
and
so
instead
of
continuing
it
and
and
putting
it
on
the
new
Council,
let
the
new
Council
decide
if
they
want
to
bring
this
back
up.
So
I
would
just
make
a
motion
to
remove
it
from
the
agenda
on
this.
A
C
K
K
K
They
just
think
it's
something
stupid
about
us
based
on
skin
color,
so
they
have
easy
identifiable
markers.
They
don't
have
to
know
anything
about
you
about
your
education,
about
your
background
about
anything
at
all,
about
your
wealth
about
whatsoever,
it
might
be
or
howsoever
it
might
be.
All
they
have
to
do
is
see
that
black
skin
and
that
racial
hatred
that
skin
color
discrimination
start
coming
out
in
them,
and
white
people
really
think
we're
stupid.
What
y'all
did
last
week
that
good
cop
bad
cop
business
hey?
We
had
all
these
meetings
with
the
mayor.
K
K
K
So
that's
how
they
trick.
African
people
in
the
first
place,
something
that
should
have
happened
months
ago,
never
happened,
and
then
it
comes
back
up
based
on
what
now
they
go
online
item
veto
veto?
No,
it
shouldn't
be
that
way
we
are
26
of
this
population
is
getting
less
and
less
every
day,
because
they're
kicking
us
out
of
our
homes.
K
No
one
in
this
city
council
talks
about
what
black
people
get
out
of
this
budget,
not
at
all
and
every
day
white
people
come
to
our
functions.
Coming
our
neighborhoods
smile
with
us
cheese
with
us
eat
watermelon
with
us
everything
and
they're
supposed
to
be
our
friends.
That's
a
poor
standard
black
people
have
for
ourselves
and
we
have
to
change
that
standard.
This
city
owe
us
reparations.
We
want
our
reparations.
Other
City
owe
us
reparations.
We
want
our
reparations
America.
Oh
black
people
reparations.
We
want
our
reparations
America,
oh
Africa
reparations.
K
We
want
our
reparations,
we
don't
want
none
of
the
stupidness.
We
don't
want
none
of
this
Gasparilla
stupid.
This
Gasparilla
is
a
hate
parade,
that's
what
that
is,
and
black
people
tried
to
stop
it
before
and
we
wasn't
successful
in
stopping
it.
Gasparilla
is
a
hate
parade
and
white
people
making
poems
about
it
and
talking
about
inclusiveness,
ain't,
nothing
inclusive
about
Gasparilla,
it's
a
eight
parade,
plain
and
simple.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
F
Good
morning
Poyner,
you
know
I
learned
something
new
every
single
day
about
this
city,
I'm,
always
kind
of
befuddled
at
how
I
did
not
realize
things,
and
one
of
the
things
I
learned
recently
is
that
comp
plans
and
rezonings
do
not
and
have
not
traveled
together,
always-
and
you
know,
one
of
the
big
ones
that
comes
to
mind
that
did
not
travel
together
was
the
comp
plan.
Amendments
for
Rattlesnake
Point
did
not
travel
with
the
rezonings,
and
so
when
the
rezonings
came
up,
the
legal
department
told
us
it's
too
late.
F
It's
not
time
for
that.
You
should
have
done
that
back
then
2006,
mind
you
when
we
had
a
comprehensive
plan.
Amendment
or
the
comprehensive
plan
had
a
whole
section
on
that
little
peninsula
in
South
Tampa,
which
makes
no
sense
to
me
because
south
of
Gandhi
has
not
doesn't
have
one
Seminole
Heights
doesn't
have
their
own
section.
All
these
big
areas
of
town
don't
have
their
own
section,
but
that
Rattlesnake
Point
seemed
to
get
their
own
comp
plan
section.
F
F
But
as
long
as
we
take
those-
and
we
put
them
in
bed
together,
then
you
guys
are
at
a
legal
whatever
anyway.
But
you
get
my
point
that
as
long
as
you
continue
to
take
those
together
and
they
haven't
always
been
taken
together,
I
want
you
to
seriously
consider
going
back
to
the
old
way
where
comp
plans
were
taken
on
one
night.
Rezonings
were
taken
on
a
different
night.
They
don't
have
to
be
six
weeks
apart,
just
separately,
because
that's
the
best
way
to
uphold
this
comprehensive
plan.
F
F
F
F
And
why
don't
we
go
back
to
doing
it
that
way,
because
if
they're
separated
the
legislative,
if
you
turn
down
a
comprehensive
plan,
change
the
legal
basis
for
a
lawsuit
is
much
much
lower
and
they
have
a
harder
time
filing
a
lawsuit
and,
as
Ms
Zellman
said
two
weeks
ago,
you
know
the
the
legal
department
doesn't
want
to
spend
all
this
money
and
I'm
sad
Mr
Vieira
is
not
up
here
because
honestly,
he
talks
about
how
detrimental
it
is
that
we
not
get
sued.
Thank.
C
C
L
Good
morning,
city
council,
Gene,
Duncan
administrator
for
infrastructure
Mobility,
if
it's
council's
pleasure,
I'd
like
to
just
give
a
quick
update
about
the
Hillsborough
County
Workshop
that
occurred
yesterday
regarding
the
what
was
previously
called
the
upper
Transportation
funds,
if,
if
that's
okay
foreign,
so
yesterday,
the
county
had
a
workshop
about
this
topic,
they
were
contacted
by
the
Department
of
Revenue
inquiring
about
a
list
of
projects
that
the
department
would
like
to
have.
L
L
We
did
here
yesterday
that
there
was
an
interest
in
the
part
of
the
county
to
distribute
those
funds
in
terms
of
population,
we're
not
sure
how
heart
fits
into
that
mix,
but
that
was
good
to
hear,
particularly
because
I
felt
that
the
news
it
came
out
Wednesday
evening
on
this
was
not
very
positive
for
Tampa
the
workshop
shed
a
more
positive
light
on
the
situation.
L
L
We
will
be
working
with
the
county
on
what
format,
what
detail
level
and
so
forth
that
they
want
our
list
to
be
provided
to
them
in
they
will
be
having
another
discussion
in
more
detail
on
February
15th
they'll
be
talking
about
the
distribution
as
well
as
their
list,
and
we'll
certainly
make
sure
that
today
extend
our
list
is
incorporated
to
that.
That
is
what
happens
as
well.
L
Another
good
note
was
that
the
sense
seemed
to
be
that
the
county
roads
within
the
city
were
something
that
they
were
considering
is,
of
course,
their
asset
which
they
would
be
addressing
with
their
list,
but
details
will
be
forthcoming
based
on
this
next
Workshop.
Next,
steps
will
be
that
this
list
is
provided
to
the
Department
of
Revenue
and
that
there's
not
a
sure
step
after
that,
but
we'll
stay
close
to
this
process
and,
of
course,
advocate
for
our
needs.
D
L
L
L
D
L
D
L
We'll
be
fine-tuning
that
number
to
see
what
our
match
would
need
to
be.
We
are
in
that
process
with
the
Federal
Transit
Authority
currently,
and
so
let
me
ask
Vic
if
he
can
offer
that
specific
match
that
we
would
need
to
have
I
think
if
you
could
jump
on
the
line.
Please
sure.
M
Thing
morning,
chair
morning,
Council
big,
b
day,
director
mobility
department.
So
indeed,
if
we
do
get
these
funds,
These
funds
will
be
eligible
for
matches
for
federal
and
state
funds
so
that
we
can
multiply
what
we're
able
to
do.
As
far
as
our
priorities,
like
Gene,
mentioned,
it's
primarily
resurfacing
sidewalks
and
the
streetcar,
but
we're
reviewing
options
for
what
that
streetcar
project
is,
but
the
goal
Still
Remains
to
provide
a
robust,
Urban
circulator
by
utilizing
available
funds
for
all
of
these
priorities.
D
Okay
and
I:
remember
you
showing
me
a
list
of
sidewalk
projects?
You
know
if
aft
went
through
this
is
years
ago
and
I
remember
seeing
100
120
projects
that
were
on
that
list.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
just
in
my
district
or
a
Citywide,
but
we
would
certainly
be
able
to
tackle
a
good
chunk
of
that
list.
We
know
about
the
road
quality
and
our
limited
budget,
so
we'd
be
able
to
tackle
a
lot
there.
Are
we
prohibited
to
I,
don't
see
how,
but
to
reach
out
to
the
county?
D
You
say
that
you
had
mentioned
that
County
Roads
that
are
within
the
city
would
be
repaid,
possibly
so
I
know
we
have
Howard
and
Armenia,
which
are
in
very
bad.
A
D
We
get
a
lot
of
complaints
on
that,
but
I
guess
it
would
be
a
question
for
Mr
Shelby.
If
I
reached
out
to
the
County
Commission
to
the
County
Administrator
individual
County
Commissioners
would
be
prohibited
under
Sunshine
from
just
putting
a
request.
Saying
hey:
these
are
the
cities
that
I'm
sure
these
are
the
roads
that
are
County
within
the
city
that
we
would
like
priority
or
no.
L
I
really
don't
know
honestly
because
we've
been
through
that
process
at
this
point
it's
a
matter
of
working
with
the
Department
of
Revenue
distributed
funds,
but
I
just
wanted
to
say
we
do
have
a
list
of
corridors
which
include
County
Roads.
So
what
I
would
ask
is,
if
you
could
work
with
Staff
first
to
show
you
what
we
have
then
I'll
reach
out
to.
L
D
M
Yes,
I
just
wanted
to
reiterate
that
the
process
for
local
agencies
relative
to
Department
of
revenues
requesting
the
county
is
still
in
discussion
with
the
county.
So
at
this
point
what
has
been
shared
by
Gene
is
as
much
as
we
know.
We
will
keep
Council
updated
on
next
steps,
of
course,
and
what
that
process
is
going
to
be.
Our
priorities
have
not
changed.
Our
list
that
were
submitted
when
the
surf
tax
was
first
initiated
and
passed.
May
evolve
slightly,
but
are
broader.
O
I
want
to
follow
up
on
that
I
know:
we've
had
discussions
about
possibly
being
able
to
take
over
County,
Roads
and
I
would
wonder,
and
actually
really
hope
that
these
funds
could
go
toward
the
county,
giving
us
funding
for
one
of
these
roads
and
then
us
being
able
to
take
it
over
in
the
future.
We
have
talked
a
lot
about
this
and
I
think
this
would
be
a
fabulous
opportunity
to
take
over
some
of
those
roads
so
that
they
do
belong
to
us,
but
I
know.
O
One
of
the
reasons
we
haven't
is
because
we
don't
have
the
funding
to
get
them
up
to
where
they
need
to
be.
I
think
this
would
be
a
wonderful
way,
especially
when
we're
looking
at
some
of
these
larger
roads
that
are
feeders
into
the
City,
and
that
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
know.
The
county
is
interested
in
making
sure
that
we
have
great
transportation
to
bring
people
into
the
city
for
jobs,
so
I
would
I
would
really
appreciate
the
focus
on
that
and
obviously
I
think
the
sidewalks
are
great
and
the
streetcar.
O
But
what
I
hear
more
than
anything
else
right
now
is
about
road
repaving,
so
any
way
that
we
can
try
to
pull
some
of
those
into
our
jurisdiction
with
this
money
would
I
think
be
absolutely
wonderful
for
the
citizens
in
the
long
term,.
J
My
colleagues
hit
some
of
the
high
notes
that
I
was
going
to
hit
so
I'll
go
quickly
through
some
things
and
sorry,
if
you
said
any
of
this,
approximately
125
million,
when
when
do
you
I
know
it's
impossible?
When
do
you
think
it
might
come
in
and
is
it
going
to
come
in
in
one
big
payment
or
over
time,
I.
L
I
really
don't
know,
we
didn't
hear
any
of
those
details
at
the
workshop
so
but
we're
you
know,
keeping
very
close
to
it,
because
I
know
the
counties
are
interested
in
well
as
well
with
those
details
and.
J
Then
we
talk
about
the
streetcar
I'm
supportive
of
the
streetcar,
but
it
also
depends
on
the
budget.
Chair
citro
a
few
weeks
ago
made
a
motion
regarding
the
streetcar
and,
if
I
remember
correctly,
he
and
I
won't
hold
him
December,
but
I
think
he
threw
out
a
number
like
16
million.
What
what
do
you
think-
and
that
was
just
up
to
where
Columbus
or
something.
C
If,
if
I
may,
I
was
asking
for
the
25
matching
funds
that
the
city
would
have
to
have,
we
keep.
We
keep
hearing
a
hundred
million
to
complete
the
project,
but
if
we
want
to
complete
the
project,
we'd
have
to
come
up
with
a
25
matching
funds
which
somewhere
is
between
60
and
20
million
dollars
to
continue
and
up
the
Palm.
Circling
up,
Florida,
Avenue,
Palm
and
back
down
Tampa
street.
So.
L
It
depends
we're
just
talking
to
Palm
Avenue,
that's
a
different
number
and
again
I'll
just
ask
Nick,
because
he
has
all
those
numbers
right
in
front
of
him
Vic
if
you
could
get
the
currents.
What
we're
looking
at
currently
going
up
to
Palm.
M
Thank
you
Gene,
so
to
clarify
the
streetcar
project
as
council
is
aware,
was
initiated
several
years
back
and
since
then
technologies
have
changed.
Our
landscape
has
changed
as
well,
and
then
the
funding
available
right
now
is
limited,
even
with
the
124
million.
That
actual
estimate
that
we
have
as
a
three
and
a
half
years
ago
for
modernization
and
extension
was
234
million
total,
which
is
why
the
state
allocated
67
25
of
that
now.
That
is
a
very
high
number
relative
to
resources
available,
and
that
is
making
us
look
at.
M
J
We're
going
to
have
a
long
discussion
about
the
streetcar,
and
you
know
I'm
supportive
of
the
streetcar,
but
I
would
suggest
with
this
money,
this
124
25
million
that
we
I'd
be
okay,
putting
16
million
of
it
in
but
but
it
we
shouldn't,
I
I
wouldn't
be
in
favor
of
putting
more
than
20
25
in
because
for
the
reasons
that
my
other
colleagues
mentioned,
it
used
to
be
that
that
broken
roads
were
the
number
one
issue
I
hear
of
now.
It's
murder
rate
and
crime.
J
But
people
are
really
angry
about
the
roads
falling
apart
and
we
don't
have
good
answers
for
them.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
they
don't
think
that
we're
spending
money
on
a
pet
project.
If
there's
a
way
that
we
can
put
a
limited
amount
of
money
to
move
it
to
the
next
phase.
We
we
need
to
show
progress
and
they
were
supportive,
but
if
we
have
a
windfall,
we
need
to
fix
the
basic
roads
because
people
people
are
there.
It's
knocking
their
cars
out
of
alignment.
J
Their
tires
are
popping
all
kinds
of
bad
things.
The
next
one
is
the
list
we
approved
a
list
a
couple
years
ago
that
you
were
putting
into
this.
Would
you
mind,
especially
because
we
have
a
new
council
member?
Would
you
mind
just
circulating
that,
so
everybody
can
see
it
and
that's
still
the
list
you're
working
from
right?
Yes,.
L
J
Like
okay
yeah,
thank
you
because
I
as
I
remember,
that
was
a
very
practical
list
of
what
we
needed
and
I
echo
my
colleagues,
you
know
sidewalks.
This
Council
has
been
pushing
for
almost
four
years
now
for
a
better
sidewalks
connectivity,
schools,
just
safety
in
general
for
walking
the
streets
and-
and
we
know
that
the
public
wants
it,
especially
now
that
a
lot
of
people
are
working
from
home
and
people
are
starting
businesses
in
neighborhoods.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
do
that
to
support
our
community.
J
I
was
going
to
say
same
thing:
council
member
hertek
said
about
County
Roads.
We
know
with
our
frustration
or
bay
to
bay.
We
desperately
need
a
street
light
there
because
of
fatal
accidents
that
have
occurred
and
we're
relying
on
the
county.
I
know.
Councilman
Miranda
has
had
some
concerns
in
the
past
about
County
Roads
coming
over.
So
first
of
all
talk
to
him
and
make
sure
sure
we
we
overcome
his
objections
but
I
think.
If
there's
a
if
there's
a
big
amount
of
money,
then
we
should
have
a
better
negotiating
position
with
the
county.
J
I
think
you
are
looking
to
set
up
like
a
50-year
budget
or
100
Year
budget,
something
like
that.
It
shouldn't
be
that
they
would
just
turn
over
the
road.
They've
got
to
give
us
a
budget
to
be
able
to
manage
it
right,
and
so
then
we
can
set
our
own
priorities
about
where
to
put
street
lights
in
four-way
stops
Etc,
but
I
think
it
let's.
J
Let's
not
look
at
just
look
at
the
roads,
but
if
you
all
figure
out
that
long-term
budget,
let's
let's
grab
it,
see
if
we
can
advocate
for
it
and
if
you
all
need
our
help.
Let
me
know
I've
been
working
closely
with
commissioner
Cohen
on
that
pay
to
Bay
thing,
but
unfortunately
we
haven't
been
able
to
do
it.
The
other
thing
is
that
vignos
in
South
Tampa
we've
had
a
lot
of
problems
with
state
county
and
private
contractors
and
others
all
working
in
the
same
area.
J
At
the
same
time,
just
like
we
had
Carmageddon
a
few
years
ago
near
the
inner
bay
area,
south
of
Gandhi
people
are
really
angry
because
they
can't
get
into
and
from
their
houses,
especially
at
at
Peak
Drive
times,
and
so
I
know
you
all
are
trying,
but
if,
if
you
all
could
try
even
harder
when
we
do
this,
let's
coordinate
with
all
those
agencies
to
make
sure
we
enable
people
to
get
in
and
out,
people
want
these
roads
to
be
fixed
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
they
also
want
to
be
able
to
get
them
out
in
and
out
of
their
streets,
and
then
the
last
thing
is
that
we
need
to
figure
out.
J
I
said
this
during
the
budgeting
process,
but
it
looks
like
considering
the
political
environment
right
now.
It
looks
like
all
for
transportation
or
whatever.
The
next
version
is
is
not
coming
in
the
next
five
or
ten
years
at
least
four
years.
The
County
Commission
that
sits
right
now,
I,
don't
think
we'll
put
it
on
the
ballot.
The
state
law
is
not
going
to
change
to.
Let
us
put
it
in
the
city,
I,
don't
think.
That's
a
good
idea
anyway.
J
J
Without
that
we
can't,
we
can't
rely
on
it
and
I
think
you
know
our
budget
has
gone
way
up
in
the
last
few
years
and
I
understand
the
restrictions
of
where
money
comes
from,
but
we
need
more
than
a
five
four
and
a
half
five
million
dollar
budget
for
Road
repair,
and
so
as
we
go
through
the
next
budgeting
process,
I'll
again
be
advocating
for
that,
but
Ms
Duncan,
I,
hope
that
you
and
and
Vic
and
I
know
you
all
are
in.
J
P
And
gentlemen,
when
I
look
at
this
amount
of
money,
I'm
reminded
by
Mr
Noreen
Copeland,
who
always
calls
me
about
her
sidewalk?
P
And
if
we
get
this
money,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
do
sidewalk
and
rope
repair
I
mean
I'm
an
advocate
of
the
streetcar,
but
that
ain't
my
biggest
priority,
because
that's
what
people
are
asking
for
all
around
the
city,
streetcars
of
prop
it's
a
pet.
It's
a
project
and
it's
designed
for
this
downtown
area.
People
say
your
Tampa
Heights,
which
is
in
my
district
as
well
and
I'm
glad
to
support
those
things
when
they
come
up
abroad.
P
When
we
have
the
money
and
funds
to
do
them,
but
they're
bigger
priorities
and
I
just
want
that
money
to
make
sure
it's
going
to
sidewalks
immediately
That
Sidewalk
fund
is
so
low
as
pathetic.
We
know
that
the
road
repair
fund
is
low.
We
have
a
big
huge
City,
so
I
would
be
looking
for
those
funds
to
be
going
to
Road
repair
and
definitely
sidewalks
and
communities.
Q
You
Mr
chairman
that
amount
of
money
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money
when
you
look
at
it.
But
when
you
look
at
the
needs,
you
imply
the
money
to
it.
It's
mysterious
yep
and
when
you
look
at
what
I
hear
from
the
people
and
what
I
see
out
in
the
streets,
the
roads
are
in
bad
shape,
very
bad
shape
because
we've
neglected
some
of
that
because
of
various
things.
First
of
all,
the
pipes
program
you
can't
break
up
a
street,
pave
the
street
break
it
up
to
put
the
pipes
in.
Q
You
got
to
wait
and
wait
and
wait
till
it
gets
further
down
the
road
and
the
pipe
program
is
not
a
one
or
two
year
program.
It's
a
15-20
year
program
continue
to
finish
the
whole
city
when
you
have
to
do
a
Monumental
task
to
change
and
fix
all
the
pipes
underground
in
the
city
of
this
size.
That's
about
four
thousand
miles
of
piping
somewhere
under
the
city,
and
it's
very
difficult
to
do
that.
Q
Unless
it's
been
updated,
that
I
don't
know
about
it's
outdated
because
they
don't
tell
you,
and
sometimes
you
have
a
cross
section
with
only
one
section
giving
you
a
left
turn
where
you
can
turn
and
on
the
other
side
of
the
East
Northwest
side,
you
can't
turn
there's
no
signalization
for
you,
so
the
lights
also
is
a
hindrance
to
the
movement
of
traffic.
Right
here
on
Kennedy
Boulevard
years
ago,
you
should
be
able
you
could
be
able
to
make
a
left-hand
turn
without
even
looking
to
your
right,
because
there
was
no
traffic.
Q
Today,
you
have
to
wait
till
the
traffic
light
changes,
so
you
can
make
a
left.
However,
you
can
only
go
40
or
60
feet
because
in
the
traffic
coming
from
east
to
west
on
Kennedy,
you
can't
make
a
left-hand
turn
it's
for
real,
and
not
only
for
us
I'm,
not
talking
about
me
I'm
talking
about
the
general
population,
so
the
standardization
that
make
a
left
to
make
another
left
and
they're,
not
Court
I,
don't
believe
they're
coordinated.
Maybe
they
are
in
the
abundance
of
traffic.
Q
Just
doesn't
move
the
venues
in
downtown
and
the
whole
venues
in
the
city
because
of
individuals
wanting
to
see
things
it's
enormous,
especially
in
the
evening.
The
south
of
us
there's
an
event
of
sporting
event.
Wonderful,
fantastic.
The
boats
are
doing
great
the
lightning.
However,
the
traffic
has
to
be
augmented
to
help
the
people
trying
to
get
home
or
coming
from
somewhere
else,
and
the
bottleneck
is
fantastic,
which
shows
prosperity
in
a
way
and
in
a
way
shows
my
God.
Q
What
am
I
doing,
I
can't
get
home,
and
these
are
the
things
just
yesterday,
I
was
heading
to
see
someone
in
Hillsboro
and
Havana
and
when
I
got
to
Osborne,
I
couldn't
make
a
right-hand
turns
because
it's
a
very
popular
school
and
it's
a
one
lane
taken
completely
for
about
a
block
or
two
blocks,
so
I
try
to
go
around
and
when
I
try
to
go
around.
There
was
a
car
coming
on
the
other
side
shot,
which
is
fine,
I
had
to
go.
Q
But
what
I
did
not
know
that
when
I
was
leaving
from
the
other
side,
it's
the
same
thing
in
wellswood
on
the
other
side,
so
the
traffic?
Why
is
not
because
they're
not
doing
what
they're
doing
the
right
thing,
they're,
making
good
education
for
students
growing
out
of
that
class
and
that's
why
parents
want
to
take
them
to
the
school.
Q
I
got
news
for
you
go
check
all
the
high
schools,
all
of
them
check
their
parking
lot,
millennium's
supposed
to
be
riding
bicycles.
Well,
the
millenniums
that
I
know
drive
cars
I'm,
not
saying
they
Don't
Ride
bicycles,
but
the
traffic
is
becoming
more
and
more
and
more
and
young
people
moving
in
and.
A
Q
They
like
Tampa
yeah,
the
ones
that
live
downtown,
can
have
their
services
given
to
about
walking,
which
is
fine.
When
we
were
young
in
Ybor
City,
we
didn't
have
to
go
anywhere.
We
had
a
grocery
store
in
the
neighborhood
right,
203
close
by
they
were
small,
but
you
they
served
your
needs.
And
now
everything
is
gigantic.
Q
To
time
it
an
hour
and
a
half
early,
so
these
are
the
things
that
I
see
I'm,
not
the
streetcar
I
was
here
when
we
first
put
it
in
and
it's
done
wonderful,
it's
it's
moved.
100
I,
believe
I
saw
it
this
morning
on
television
100
and
some
odd
thousand
180
000
people
in
the
last
month,
and
it
was
the
biggest
month
I
ever
had
so
it's
catching
on,
but
at
what
price?
Q
B
Q
I
No,
no
worries,
Mr
chairman,
don't
worry,
you
know
it's
funny.
Sometimes
when
I
don't
want
to
say
something:
I
go,
don't
say
x,
don't
say,
x,
x
comes
out
so
that
that
happens
to
me.
Oh.
J
J
I
You
go
there,
you
go,
but
so
you
know
a
lot
of
sentiments
set
up
here.
I
think
the
overall
narrative
and
I
and
I
tend
to
back
this
is
that
the
vast
majority
of
this
money,
probably
90,
should
go
to
the
basic
needs.
The
streetcar
is
a
wonderful
thing
and
and
I
know.
Chairman
citro
has
proposed
some
things
in
the
CRA
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
and
I
support
it,
but
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
money.
I
Probably
90
of
that
should
go
to
Road
repairs
and
and
just
the
basics
and
whatnot
I.
Look
at
my
district
I
know
that
New
Tampa
Boulevard
is
a
big
issue
and
obviously
30th
Street
in
your
Busch
Gardens
and
fire
station
13
in
District
2
for
Tampa
Police
Department
is
just
a
road
in
really
really
bad
condition,
and
you
know
you
you
can't
forget
again.
The
urban
core
is
very
important.
Downtown's
important
I've
always
supported
a
downtown
CRA,
we're
not
finished
with
Downtown
Development
Etc,
but
especially
on
these
funds.
I
We
have
to
have
some
Equitable
balance.
I
have
no
problem
with
you
know,
shifting
some
of
those
funds
to
the
streetcar,
but
I
think
that
that
you
know
neighborhood
Common
Sense
dictates
that
the
the
vast
majority
of
it
90
percent
goes
to
things
like
repaving,
so
I
support
the
sentiments
up
here.
Thank
you.
C
Council
members
have
finished
Miss
Duncan
I
would
like
to
say
that
when
I
propose
the
extension
of
the
streetcar,
it
was
meant
to
be
used
at
matching
funds
through
CRA
dollars
and
Mr
B
day
myself
and
Miss
Nicole
Travis
have
been
talking
extensively
and
I
feel
that
some
of
those
CRA
dollars
that
will
be
used
in
the
four
cras
from
the
four
cras
could
be
used
for
other
things:
affordable
housing,
maybe
even
fire
station
and
again
Mr
b-day,
Nicole
and
I-
have
come
up
with
a
different
option.
C
C
I
agree
with
a
lot
of
the
councilmen
here
we
have
worked
hard
on
getting
sidewalks
and
especially
around
schools.
We
have
children
in
this
city
that
have
to
walk
in
the
streets
to
get
to
schools.
That's
that!
That's
that.
That's
unheard
of
that
that
that
is
not
correct.
That's
not
right!
So
a
better
Pathway
to
schools
by
having
sidewalks
where
children
can
walk
to
school,
because
Tallahassee
has
forced
our
Hillsborough
County
school
system
that
if
the
child
lives
within
two
miles
of
the
school,
they
cannot
be
bust.
Sidewalks
are
essential.
C
C
C
Why
have
them
repaved
now
if
they
have
to
just
be
torn
up
to
do
the
pipes
project?
So
I
would
ask
that
the
county
with
all
this
all
for
transportation
money
coming
in
to
at
least
give
us
the
funds
to
repay
those
roads
after
the
pyth
project
is
done
so
that
we
can
have
those
funds
to
repave
the
roads.
Now
we're
talking
we're
talking,
Howard
Armenia,
we're
talking,
West
Shore,
we're
talking,
Kennedy
Boulevard,
we're
talking
Columbus.
C
These
are
all
County
roads,
but
yes,
each
and
every
one
of
these
council
members
here
gets
calls
every
day
saying:
repair
our
roads,
so
I
hope
the
County
Commission
is
listening
to
what
we're
saying.
We
need
your
roads
within
the
city
limits
of
Tampa,
repaved,
council
members.
Anybody
else
have
any
other.
C
C
F
A
couple
comments
I'm
not
against
the
trolley,
but
it
doesn't
service
the
entire
city
and
this
money
is
for
the
entire
city.
Sorry,
not
sorry.
Mobility
really
should
Supply
a
wish
list
that
I
guarantee
you.
They
can
tell
us
the
which
roads
are
in
the
worst
condition,
and
then
we
can
make
a
priority
list
from
there.
We
can
make
a
priority
list
from
Mobility.
I
mean
I
personally,
think
that
big
Beatty
is
the
most
data
driven
guy
you've
got
and
he
probably
can
whip
out
a
list
very
quickly
of
what
needs
to
be
repaired.
F
And
of
course,
then
we
need
to
go
to
sidewalks
and
our
sidewalk
budget
is
still
less
than
a
million
dollars,
and
this
is
a
hundred
and
some
million
I
don't
know
how
much,
but
the
bottom
line
is,
if
you
gave
them
five
million,
it's
going
to
be
five
years
worth
of
funding,
and
that's
a
very
small
percent
of
what
you're
talking
about
here.
Equity
throughout
the
city
is
really
really
important.
Yesterday,
when
I
was
at
the
housing
task
force
meeting
at
mcdill,
they
have
upped
the
numbers
to
24.
F
1000
people
would
still
be
serviced
by
their
clinic,
so
you
can
imagine
that's
if
they
took
only
active
duty
members.
Okay,
so
imagine
all
the
family
members
that
come
to
and
fro
mcdill
as
part
of
that
and
so
they're
running
over
the
roads.
Every
single
day,
the
ferry
we
haven't
even
talked
about
that.
We
haven't
talked
about
the
work
at
Interbay
and
I.
Only
talk
about
my
neighborhood,
not
because
I
care
the
most
about
my
neighborhood,
because
I
know
the
data
for
my
neighborhood.
F
Let's
look
at
what
he
wants
and
let's
figure
out
where
the
priorities
lie,
but
I'm
sorry,
a
hundred
million
dollars
for
a
trolley
that
jet
that
Revenant
generates
zero
Revenue
no
money
and
makes
no
money.
It
only
costs
money
to
run
makes
no
sense
to
me.
We
need
if
we
can
get
matching
dollars,
I'm,
okay,
with
with
the
percentage
of
it,
but
not
all
of
it
for
certain,
because
the
bottom
line
is
if
transportation
and
Mobility
can
make
money
while
they're
while
they're
spending
money,
then
that's
the
smartest
way
to
go.
Thank.
R
Good
morning,
Keela
mccaskill
I
kind
of
echo,
some
of
what
all
of
you
have
said.
You
know
remembering
that
a
part
of
the
when
I
was
involved
off
of
Transportation.
The
big
piece
of
that
was,
of
course,
I
have
nothing
against
the
streetcar.
I,
actually
use
it
and
I
like
it.
But
again
it's
not
the
biggest
concern
that
we
have
one
of
the
things
you've
all
pretty
much
touched
on
was
safety.
You
know
seeing
the
minimizing
some
of
the
pedestrian
accidents
and
or
death
as
they're
traveling
to
school
and
or
the
local
park.
R
Some
of
those
accident
Pro
intersections
that's
identified
in
that
Vision
zero
action
plan.
They
identify
key
streets,
that's
prone
to
accidents,
I
like
to
see
it
address.
Some
of
those
safety
concerns.
You've
already
said:
sidewalks
you've
already
said:
traffic
congestion
and
Road
repair
and
I
also
like
to
point
out
and
I,
don't
know
if
it
fits
in
that
or
not
but
heart.
One
of
the
other
concerns
that
I
had
was
for
a
heart
line.
R
You
know
they
mentioned
their
budget
was
limited,
I,
don't
know
if
those
monies
can
be
contributed
to
heart
still,
but
it
used
usually
contributes
to
those
in
marginalized
communities
having
the
opportunity
to
have
access
to
transportation,
to
Mid
to
high-wage
earning
jobs.
I
was
one
of
those
kids
that
relied
on
public
transportation
when
I
was
a
young,
actually
just
turned
18
and
was
able
to
land
a
job
that
was
far
away
from
where
I
lived
and
I
was
relying
upon
public
transportation.
R
If
heart
cuts
that
budget
that
minimizes
the
opportunities
for
people
living
in
those
communities-
and
the
last
thing
I
wanted
to
say
was
how
was
your
concerns?
Enforced
I
mean
I,
hear
you
saying
to
her.
What
needs
to
take
place
but
I
just
want
to
know
how
they
can
be
held
accountable
to
make
sure
those
funds
are
used.
As
we're
saying
today,
we
know
it's
safety,
we
know
access
to
to
jobs
or
Transportation,
but
how
is
this
enforced?
R
I'm
not
sure
I've
never
been
to
this
type
of
Workshop,
but
I
would
like
to
know
how
they
can
be
held
accountable
so
that
we
make
sure
that
what
you're
saying
actually
goes
in
the
system
and
they're
actually
being
accountable
a
lot
of
times
what
you
say
it
comes
back
and
it's
a
circle.
We
never
get
the
results,
it's
just
a
circle
of
going
over
and
saying
the
same
thing
again,
I
like
to
see
this
enforced
to
make
sure
those
dollars
are
being
spent
where
they
should
be.
Thank
you.
S
Taylor
Ralph
3703
West
San
Juan
street
I'm
here
to
speak
on
a
different
issue
but,
as
you
all
know,
I'm
very
involved
in
streetscape
improvements
and
mobility,
and
things
like
that
and
I
figured
I'd
speak
because
obviously
you
all
are
discussing
where
the
funding
should
go.
I
would
argue
everything
that
Stephanie's
doing
is
amazing
and
I
love
it.
But
the
streetcar
does
help
the
rest
of
our
city,
because
118
000
people
that
used
it
last
month
don't
have
to
rent
a
car
and
drive
on
our
roads.
S
They
can
go
to
downtown
Tampa
and
they
can
get
around
to
ibor
to
Tampa
Heights
on
the
streetcar.
They
can
walk,
they
can
bike.
We
have
infrastructure
in
downtown.
Yesterday,
I
was
at
the
protective
bike
lane
expansion
on
Cass
Street
that
actually
finally
connected
the
two
ends
of
a
protected
bike
lane,
which
why
are
we
not
filling
those
things
in
completely?
S
We
you
have
to
ride
in
North,
Hyde
Park
on
a
bike,
and
then
you
stop
at
the
Cass
Street
bridge
and
they
have
an
incredibly
dangerous
section
and
then
you
can
go
to
the
other
side.
So
we
we
need
to
be
connecting
these
things
and
making
them
truly
usable,
and
the
streetcar
is
an
example
of
something
that
truly
benefits
our
community
in
so
many
different
ways.
S
Paving
Interbay
or
Paving.
West
Shore
only
helps
the
people
along
that
road
too.
But
it's
a
it's
a
very
easy
thing
to
point
at
and
say
that's
the
problem,
but
multi-transit
options,
alternative
Transit
options,
walking
biking
Transit.
The
streetcar
is
something
that's
turning
into
something
that
can
be
so
much
more
beneficial
to
our
community.
In
terms
of
vehicle
emissions,
noise,
maintenance
on
our
roads,
congestion,
Etc,
et
cetera,
Etc
people
want
to
go
to
trips.
They
want
to
go
downtown,
they
want
to
be
able
to
walk
everywhere.
S
They
don't
want
to
have
the
expense
of
a
car
they
don't
want
to
have
to.
You
know
worry
about
how
they're
going
to
get
from
point
A
to
point
B
if
they
can
just
walk
and
ride
the
trolley.
It's
an
economic
driver
for
our
community,
so
I
appreciate
and
and
I
agree.
We
need
to
pave
our
roads.
We
need
to
strategize
on
what
the
priorities
are.
We
need
to
do
it
once
rather
than
twice.
We
also
need
to
be
thinking
about
how
these
bike
Lanes
not
only
provide
access
for
bicyclists.
S
They
protect
people
that
are
walking
on
the
sidewalk
and
they
help
slow
down
cars
and
they
provide
opportunities
for
people
to
not
even
get
in
their
car,
and
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight
because
we
put
in
one
bike
lane,
but
if
we're
doing
this
as
a
networked
solution
that
actually
goes
from
meaningful
places
to
meaningful
places,
and
we
encourage
good
development
around
all
of
that
infrastructure.
We're
investing
in
it
is
the
ROI
for
the
city
is
enormous
and
I.
S
S
Are
we
tracking
how
much
development
is
going
on
around
the
Riverwalk
and
how
much
property
taxes
and
sales
taxes
are
being
paid
around
all
of
this
infrastructure,
because
guess
what
the
city
is
making
a
lot
of
money
on
putting
in
really
high
quality
infrastructure,
and
that's
how
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
that?
The
return
on
investment
of
our
infrastructure
Investments.
Thank
you.
Thank.
C
You
is
there
anyone
else,
Miss,
Duncan
I,
don't
mean
to
put
you
on
the
spot,
but
miss
mccaskill
did
have
a
valid
point.
Can
you
explain
it,
especially
for
our
viewers
on
how
this
is
going
to
work
from
our
thoughts,
our
ideas
on
how
this
off
Transportation
money
is
going
to
be
spent
and
how
we
get
that
to
Tallahassee.
L
Yes,
so,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
working
with
the
county,
we
I
will
send
a
list
out
today
that
we've
had
for
some
time
that
is
essentially
boils
down
to
resurfacing
in
the
streetcar
is
broken
into
sections
of
corridors
and
sidewalks
and
so
forth.
But
the
overarching
component
of
those
is
a
resurfacing
piece,
so
we
can
certainly
share
that
with
you.
L
We
can
have
a
conversation
about
that
publicly
before
it
goes
over
to
the
county,
but
it
is
the
same
list
that
we've
been
referring
to
not
recently,
of
course,
but
that
that
was
reviewed
by
the
ioc.
Well,
we
thought
we
were
getting
the
penny
that
went
through
public
processes,
but
that
doesn't
mean
we
can't
Refresh
on
it
and
revisit
it
before
it
goes
back
to
the
county
in
terms
of
tracking
what
we're
doing
once
we
get
the
money,
the
money
would
come
to
the
city's
revenue
and
finance
group.
M
Thank
you,
chair
I,
just
like
to
augment
What
gene
mentioned.
There
is
some
uncertainty
as
to
the
process
should
the
monies
become
available
and
that
kind
of
goes
back
to
the
previous
decision
by
judge
barvis,
which
was
that
the
Department
of
Revenue
will
ask
the
county
for
a
plan
which
they
have
and
we're
in
the
process
of
finalizing
that
plan.
But
it
does
go
back
to
the
legislature
to
determine
I,
see
Morris.
Is
there
so
I'll
ask
him
to
add
to
it.
T
What
Vic
is
saying
is
correct:
after
the
offer,
Transportation
tax
was
struck
by
judge
barbus
and
by
the
Supreme
Court
the
money.
All
the
money
that
was
collected
for
the
term
that
it
was
in
effect,
has
been
returned
to
Tallahassee.
The
Department
of
Revenue
is
now
asking
for
input
on
how
that
money
may
be
spent,
but
that
decision
is
ultimately
going
to
be
made,
at
least
at
a
high
level.
L
I'll
just
speak
about
this
and
then,
if
it,
if
it
suits
Council
I,
believe
that
the
CIP
presentation
we're
offering
will
sort
of
feed
into
my
suggestion
on
this
item
of
the
20
million
dollars.
But
we
can
certainly
talk
about
that.
So
this
is
just
sort
of
a
visual
of
the
current
CIP
budget
and
engagement
process
that
we
currently
have.
L
Obviously,
we
start
out
every
year
with
a
with
a
budget,
two
hearings
and
an
adoption,
we
bring
to
you
resolutions
for
reimbursements
that
we're
going
to
use
for
funding
mechanisms
for
our
projects.
Any
contract
that
is
executed
has
to
come
before
the
council
for
approval.
L
L
We
will
accompany
that
with
a
biannual
production
report,
similar
to
what
we're
doing
for
storm
water,
where
we
send
out
the
stormwater
quarterly
report,
which
I
think
was
councilman
moniscalco
suggested
at
the
time.
It's
worked
very
well
for
us
and
you,
so
we
want
to
do
that
as
well.
For
all
these
other
infrastructure
projects
again
one-on-one
Council
briefings,
we
do
our
best
to
offer
those
details
on
specific
things
we
think
you're
interested
in
or
that
we
think
are
high
profile.
It
works
both
ways
we
reach
out
for
those
briefings.
L
We
welcome
your
requests
for
one-on-ones
with
us
as
well.
If
you
think
you're
hearing
something-
and
you
want
to
know
more
about
it,
we
have
neighborhood
association
meetings
going
on
probably
every
day
of
the
week,
except
maybe
Fridays.
We
have
someone
from
our
team
at
some
sort
of
neighborhood
association
meeting
either
speaking
generally
about
things
or
speaking
at
a
particular
project.
L
Any
major
project
that
we're
doing
has
a
particular
public
engagement
plan
for
that
project,
which
often
has
a
PR
team
associated
with
it,
and
then
we
start
the
circle
of
life
again.
So
this
is
our
process
which
we
feel
is
transparent
and
engaging
in
terms
of
getting
that
CIP
information
out
to
others
and
getting
that
feedback
in
the
meetings
that
we
do
have
with
the
public
at
the
association
meetings
and
for
our
public
engagement
plans
we're
seeking
that
input
from
the
public
because
we
often
modify
our
projects
based
on
what
we're
hearing
from
the
public.
L
It
is
important
that
we're
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
something,
but
it's
not
always
of
most
interest
or
the
highest
interest,
so
I
believe
if
we
have
another
way
of
enhancing
what
we're
doing
now.
That
would
capture
anything
that
would
be
very
concerning
or
very
interesting
to
the
public
that
might
be
a
better
alternative
than
taking
a
dollar
amount
and
then
going
in
that
route.
U
Thank
you,
ma'am
good
after
or
excuse
me
good
morning,
Council
Dennis,
Rogero,
Chief
Financial
Officer
I'm,
going
to
walk
you
all
through
a
brief,
refresh
and
reminder
of
the
capital
Improvement
program
before
Gene
and
the
the
team
get
into
some
detailed
presentations
about
particular
projects.
U
As
we
did
last
year
and
as
we
will
do
going
forward,
you
know
both
summary
and
very
detailed
information
is
available
on
the
website
as
part
of
that
opengov
program.
We
continue
talking
about
and
I'd
like
to
just
walk
us
through
that
right
now,.
U
There
we
are,
and
that's
the
title
page
that
you'll
see
when
you
go
into
opengov
and,
as
you
see
here
at
the
top,
a
very
broad
macro
overview
of
the
five-year
Capital
Improvement
program
and
we
get
into
some
highlights
again
overall,
what's
happening
throughout
the
city
and
what
we
expect
to
happen
over
the
next
five
years.
We've
got
some
some
project
photographs
again
to
give
the
reader
to
give
the
public
to
give
you
all
a
feel
for
what
we're
doing
the
various
elements
that
go
into
a
capital,
Improvement
program,
design,
permitting
land
acquisition.
U
Things
like
that
construction
and
you'll
see
and
the
reader
can
take
as
much
or
as
little
from
this
as
they'd
like
if
they
want
to
get,
do
a
deep
dive
in
some
of
these
things.
It's
there
for
them,
but
we're
really
trying
to
walk
away,
giving
the
reader
an
idea
of
the
various
phases
and
various
items
that
go
into
a
long-term
capital,
Improvement
project,
again
some
photographs
of
what
we're
doing
and
then
here's
where
we
start
getting
into
very
great
detail.
U
So
we
we're
taking
it
from
a
very
broad
overview,
as
I
said
down
into
a
very
detailed
explanation
and
associated
with
each
project
within
each
department
that
if
the
reader
wants
more
detail,
we
get
into
the
various
funding
sources
that
go
into
funding
the
capital
Improvement
project
an
overview
here
and
then,
if
you
see
on
the
lower
right
view,
the
report
I
won't
go
into
that
now
because
it
it
goes
down
quite
a
few
rabbit
holes,
and
then
we
re-summarize
by
Department
The
Five-Year
Plan
for
the
Appropriations
and
allocations
associated
with
the
capital
Improvement
project.
U
Here's
here
is
our
arcgis
map
identifying
the
capital
Improvement
projects
from
2022
and
2023
as
we
go
forward
in
time.
Every
single,
active,
Capital
Improvement
project
will
be
on
this
map
right
now,
we've
got
two
years
and
in
in
the
background,
this
is
kind
of
a
systemic
coordination
of
information
between
the
revenue
and
finance
department.
The
various
departments
and
especially
I'll,
give
credit
to
the
technology
and
Innovation
Department.
U
As
you
know,
the
debt
issuance
requirements
for
what
we
plan
to
do
in
the
future
and
we
get
into
some
more
detail
about
the
comprehensive
plans
and
how
that
interacts
with
where
this
city
is
going
forward.
Where
we
intend
to
take
this
ship,
if
you
will
I,
won't
go
into
it
all
right
now,
comprehensive
Improvement,
section
schedule
a
little
bit
about
the
budget
process.
You've
heard
Ms
Duncan
speak
to
that
a
bit
and
then
finally,
we
never
want
to
forget
the
operational
impacts
associated
with
Capital
Improvements
Improvement
projects.
It's
not
just
building
a
building.
U
That's
not
just
cranking
up
a
part.
You've
got
to
plan
for
the
maintenance
of
that
project.
You've
got
to
staff
that
project,
for
instance,
again
using
Parks
and
Recreation
as
an
example
and
the
capital
Improvement
project
that
we
have
now
calls
for
millions
and
millions
of
dollars
of
operating
costs
into
the
future.
If
it's
going
to
be
a
fire
station,
for
instance,
if
it's
going
to
be
a
park,
you
can
count
on
spending
that
operating
funding
in
perpetuity
as
long
as
that
asset
is
active,
so
we
don't
want
to
lose
sight
of
that.
U
U
Moving
back
to
the
presentation
we
will
come
through
today,
give
you
an
overview
again.
Team
members
will
speak
to
specific
project
details,
descriptions,
funding
sources,
plan,
funding
levels
what's
available
in
the
particular
project.
We've
had
that
discussion
before
and
again
the
arc
view
map-
and
here
is
our
fiscal
year-
2327
Capital
Improvement
program.
U
You
will
call
seeing
this
slide
during
our
various
meetings
during
the
budget
preparation
process
five-year
program
again
containing
over
300
projects
and
totaling,
just
over
1.9
billion
dollars,
I'd
like
to
remind
Council
and
the
viewing
Public
public
that
this
is
one
of
the
key
stones
for
our
annual
United
States
government.
Finance
officers
award
that
we
are
very
fortunate
to
receive
you'll
notice.
I
said
fortunate,
but
not
lucky.
It
is
not
luck.
We
do
a
very
good
job,
whether
it's
Council
the
mayor,
the
team,
the
public
of
identifying
priorities
and
charting
a
course
forward.
U
U
You
got
about
a
third
of
that
we're
we're
coming
very
aggressive
into
this
five-year
Capital
Improvement
plan,
and
you
see
the
emphasis
on
infrastructure,
whether
it's
Solid
Waste,
Water,
waste
water
parks,
it's
getting
a
significant
investment
also
and
a
final
refresh
for
you
and
the
viewing
public
again,
our
Capital
Improvement
program
is:
are
the
big
projects?
Okay,
it's
not
Vehicles,
not
helicopters.
Things
like
that.
U
Having
said
that,
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
Miss
Duncan.
Thank
you
and,
of
course,
I'll
be
here
throughout
the
presentation.
L
L
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
and
so
basically,
this
is
a
sort
of
a
realigning,
streamlining
and
a
consistency
application
to
existing
project
management
processes
that
we
have
you
can
imagine
like
you
saw
the
list
of
the
dentist
showed
we
have
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
hundreds
of
capital
projects,
many
many
many
individuals,
many
departments
involved,
and
so
this
is
bringing
a
little
more
of
a
consistent
template,
particularly
starting
out
with
the
high
profile
projects.
I'll
call
them,
and
so
we
talked
about
having
an
identified
set
of
stakeholders
for
each
project
which
I
have
listed
here.
L
I
won't
read
them
all
and
we're
adding
this
process
to
our
our
planning
and
our
project
management
to
ensure
that
we're
not
missing
any
key
things
at
the
very
very
beginning
of
even
thinking
or
talking
about
a
concept
for
a
project.
We
believe
this
is
going
to
give
a
lot
of
strength
to
the
process.
We
already
have
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
overlook
anything
of
very
great
importance
that
we
don't
want
to
find
out
later
on.
L
So
as
part
of
that,
we
are
going
to
finalize
our
format
for
the
biennial
report
that
we're
going
to
start
to
send
to
you
all,
and
we
want
to
have
this
like
we
did
with
some
of
the
seller
items,
which
was
a
great
suggestion.
I
think
councilman.
Her
time
was
one
of
those
that
requested
that,
and
all
of
you
wanted
that
as
well.
We're
going
to
have
a
format
that
I've
outlined
here
just
for
consistency,
because
we
think
that
will
help
again
make
sure
we're
not
missing
anything
not
have
to
confuse.
L
L
L
We
imagine
that
our
first
biennial
report
will
probably
have
about
20
key
projects
in
it
that
are
of
most
interest.
Eventually,
we
will
add
to
that,
but
right
off
the
bat,
it's
it's
cumbersome
to
put
every
single
project
into
that
report.
We
have
reports,
obviously
in
different
formats
and
in
within
different
departments,
but
for
purposes
of
council
and
the
public.
We
want
something:
that's
not
too
much
of
a
data
dump,
so
to
speak.
L
L
J
Just
one
comment
on
the
format:
I,
like
this
format
a
lot
and
thank
you
all
for
presenting
the
only
thing
I
would
recommend
adding
and
unfortunately,
I
may
dump.
Some
of
these
into
two
pages
is
just
like
a
top
ten
list
on
what's
being
paid
for
underneath
this,
like
I
was
looking
at
Vela
brothers
and
I
can
see
the
overall
budget.
J
But
oh,
it
would
be
helpful
to
say
you
know
finishing
the
playground
building
another
bathroom,
whatever
the
whatever
the
projects
are
just
so
we
could
see
what
the
what
the
sub
components
are
and
not
you
could
probably
in
some
of
them
do
it
200
list,
but
just.
J
L
That
yeah,
okay,
certainly
we
can
do
that.
Thank
you,
okay,
so
again
that
suits
everyone
for
this
Workshop
today,
we'll
start
with
our
fire
chief
Barber
chip
on
fire
station
number
24.
N
Good
morning,
Council
Barbara
trip
tip
fire
rescue
fire
chief,
just
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
fire
station
24.
That's
part
of
this
project,
so
basically
station
24.
We
are
actually
looking
in
the
area
of
North
Tampa
to
build
another
fire
station.
Currently
we
have
the
engine
24
and
rescue
24
operating
out
of
another
station.
N
That
station
also
provide
the
need
for
medical
and
protective
Fire
protective
services
in
that
community,
as
I
stated
I'm,
currently
in
the
process
of
having
meetings
with
storm
water,
the
land
that
we
have
appeared
to
have
some
sort
of
flooding
on
it
and
they're
doing
surveys
right
now
to
make
sure
so,
basically,
we
already
acquired
the
land,
it's
sitting
on
property
and
looking
forward
to
some
positive
results
from
that
pretty
much
the
benefits
of
that
once
again,
as
we
talked
about
as
far
as
trying
to
take
care
of
some
of
the
call
volume
desks
up
in
the
north
Tampa
area
and
put
the
resources
where
we
need
it.
L
L
Didn't
give
our
new
Convention
Center
Director
the
the
clicker
commands
here.
There's
some
right
here.
You.
V
Good
morning
Council,
my
name
is
David
I'm,
the
executive
director
of
the
type
of
Convention
Center
I'm,
hopefully
going
to
make
this
really
quick
and
have
some
good
news
for
you.
Our
project
basically
is
for
the
renovation
of
the
convention
center.
We
did
it
in
three
phases
as
we're
getting
older.
We
were
here
since
1990.
We
need
to
do
some
mechanical
Renovations.
We
needed
to
update
our
meeting
rooms,
and
then
we
also
wanted
to
expand.
So
those
threes
prongs
actually
been
addressed.
V
This
Renovations
they
have
mechanical
is
pretty
much
going
to
be
done
in
about
June
the
meeting
room
Renovations,
our
internal
ones
are
going
to
be
we're
slated
for
March,
but
with
the
the
business
that
we've
had
in
the
increased
business,
we've
had
to
push
that
back
to
about
April
or
May,
but
the
real
big
piece
is
here.
The
good
news
story
is
the
extent
the
expansion
of
the
16
000
square
feet
will
be
done
by
the
end
of
June,
our
first
event
after
that
will
be
in
July
for
the
Florida
Bar
Association.
V
So
as
we're
already
looking
at
Returns
on
having
that
new
additional
space
as
a
big
piece
project,
I
look
at
it
as
the
benefits
of
not
only
are
we
becoming
a
little
bit
more
efficient
by
upgrading
our
Mechanicals,
but
the
additional
space
allows
us
to
be
a
little
bit
more
flexible
and
get
a
little
bit
more
business.
V
Q
V
Are
correct
and
what.
Q
Is
that
you
can't
get
the
big
big
convention
that
got
eight
thousand
ten
thousand
people,
because
at
first
time
way
before
your
time,
we
had
a
Convention
Center
without
a
Convention
Center
Hotel,
and
we
suffer
a
lot.
But
by
doing
that
through
different
administrations,
we
we
became
viable
and
competitive
in
the
marketplace
in
the
successive
base
or
the
ability
to
have
rooms
to
rent.
So
people
can
go
to
the
convention.
Q
That
being
said,
do
you
plan
what
are
the
future
plans
for
that
convention
center
and
you're?
The
one
that's
going
to
lead
it
in
the
next
50
or
20
years?
Your
vision
plan
has
to
be
made
up
because
you're
surrounded
by
very
little
room
to
expand,
am
I,
correct.
Q
So
what
are
we
planning
on
doing?
If
not
now
you
don't
have
to
give
me
an
answer
now
to
this
body
now,
but
for
the
future,
do
you
see
things
happening
and,
of
course
it's
all
based
on
the
economy
driven
sector?
We
have
gone
from
a
sleepy
City
that
produce
cigars
and
other
great
things
in
America
to
one
that
has
now
tech
companies
and
the
Vibrance
of
young
people
coming
in
that
were
not
from
here
when
your
grandkids
don't
leave
Tampa
and
they
go
to
other
schools
and
they
come
back.
Q
V
Is
it's
not
just
the
center
expanding
it's
the
hotel,
Community
expanding
as
well
realistically
in
the
big
picture,
if
you
can
get
a
public-private
partnership
to
create
a
true
flag
hotel
for
the
convention
center,
that's
probably
around
8
000
rooms.
You
can
go,
get
those
big
conventions
in
conventions.
You
have
to
look
at
it
from
the
perspective.
Is
it
having
that
large
one
here
great?
Yes,
it
helps
us
with
name
brand
recognition,
but
you
want
the
capacity
to
have
multiple
events
at
multiple
times.
V
V
I
know
covet,
took
a
big
hit
for
a
lot
of
the
industry,
but
our
industry
rebounded
very
quickly,
and
you
can
see
that
by
a
lot
of
the
other
expansions
that
are
going
around
the
country
Austin's
doing
one
which
is
a
comparable
size
city
to
us
as
far
as
space
wise
in
the
convention
center
Milwaukee's
finishing
up
one.
So
there's
a
lot
of
that
mid-tier
group
that
we're
competing
with
that.
J
Yeah-
and
we
should
have
a
longer
conversation
about
this
another
day,
but
just
some
quick
questions
following
on
my
my
colleague
just
now,
there
were,
if
I
remember
correctly,
there
were
some
renderings
that
were
leaked
or
posted
a
few
months
ago
that
had
a
hotel
on
top.
Is
that?
Are
you
looking
at
partnering
with
the
private
sector
outside
the
footprint
or
like
built
skyways,
or
are
you
looking
to
build
something
on
top
I.
V
Think
that
what
you're
you
can
correct
me,
a
ride,
I've
been
here
for
two
and
a
half
months,
so
yeah
what
was
leaked
through
I
think
it
was.
What
you
saw
was
the
an
article
in
the
Business
Journal,
the
Tampa
Bay
Business
Journal
that
had
the
extension
of
the
convention
center
going
across
diagonally
to
a
vacant
property
and
that
was
going
to
be
redeveloped
with
a
combination
of
both
public
and
private
that
had
hotels,
I,
believe,
affordable
housing
and
expansion
of
the
convention.
Center
I
haven't
delved
into
that.
V
But
if
you
take
that
premise,
that's
exactly
what
would
ultimately
need
to
happen.
You
would
need
to
go
across
the
street
and
then
build
vertical.
I
could
have
like
and
I'm
just
picking
a
number
four
three
and
four
and
the
rest
could
be
a
hotel
that
has
the
ability
to
house
eight
to
a
thousand
rooms.
So.
J
Another
another
quick
question:
we
can
talk
about
it
more
later,
but
we're
we're
I,
don't
think
we're
in
the
category
of
competition
with
Orlando
or
Las
Vegas.
That
makes
things
like
that,
but
in
the
category
we
are,
what
category
are
we
in
and
then
in
that
category,
when
we're
done
with
these
Renovations?
How
competitive
are
we
are?
We
I
mean
setting
aside
that
Tampa
is
a
great
City
and
people
want
to
visit
here
just
to
facilities
themselves.
Now
we
have
the
JW
and
sure
Marriott
and
Embassy
Suites
and
all
the
other
convention
space
are.
J
V
Are
very
competitive,
the
one
thing
that
will
truly
limit
us
is
the
hotel
occupancy
to
be
quite
honest.
You
mentioned
Orlando
in
Vegas
and
the
other
one
I
would
throw
in
there.
Even
though
it's
declining
on
some
levels
of
Chicago,
a
lot
of
that
has
to
do
with
the
destination
package
and
what
it
actually
has
the
to
offer.
You
need
an
airport,
you
need
infrastructure,
you
need
hotel
rooms
and
you
need
a
Convention
Center.
We
have
a
phenomenal
airport
here.
The
infrastructure
after
today's
conversation
sounds
like
it
could
be
improved
the
convention
center.
V
You
have
a
phenomenal
one.
It's
a
Hidden
Gem
that
a
lot
of
people
may
not
know
in
the
community.
The
one
thing
that
truly
comes
down
to
now
is
the
next
one
is
the
hotel
package
and
if
the
hotel
Community
can
get
on
board
and
we
we
all
function
together
and
you
have
another
thousand
room
hotel,
we
have
the
ability
to
be
the
number
one
destination
in
our
Market.
Stop
me
what
what
is
the?
What
is
our
category
called
we're?
V
J
And
then
kind
of
following
questions
stop
me.
If
you
can't
talk
about
this,
but
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
Embassy
Suites
was
built
so
that
you
could
build
another
tower
on
top
of
the
parking
deck
there.
I'm.
V
Going
to
defer
to
councilman
Miranda
who's
been
here
car
alarm.
J
Anyway,
that
I
mean
that
I
don't
know
how
many
rooms
they
have
on
the
one
side,
but
if
that
and
there
there
have
got
to
be
creative
ideas
of
using
space
there
as
I
remember
they
built
the
infrastructs
on
the
other
side,
so
they
could
build
like
a
twin
tower.
That
would
be
another
probably
a
couple
hundred
rooms
anyway,
but
we'll
talk
later.
Thank
you
sure.
P
Well,
the
gentleman
is
right:
I
can
remember
several
times.
We
tried
to
get
minority
visits
here
in
Tampa
and
they
all
failed,
because
we
did
not
have
a
hotel
space.
P
That's
just
the
way
that
is
I'm
glad
that
my
fraternity
will
be
the
first
fraternity
to
have
a
conclave
here
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
and
roughly
it's
going
to
be
probably
about
20.
000
capitals
are
going
to
be
maybe
more
because
we
only
have
a
conclusions
Kobe
in
about
10
years
now,
so
I'm
glad
that
you
know
we
were
excited
to
get
it
probably
about
eight
years
ago
from
commissioner
Miller
was,
it
was
in
charge
a
kind
of
commission
and
we
just
couldn't
get
it.
In
the
ninth
hour
they
went
to
Orlando.
P
That
was
the
most
disappointing
thing
for
us
here
in
Tampa.
We
can
see,
but
we're
glad
that
we
were
able
to
accommodate
now
with
the
hotel
space
and
you're
right
that
we
can
get
more
hotels,
especially
on
top
of
that
convention.
Bureau.
You
know,
you're
talking
about
convenience,
I
mean
we
probably
could
get
to
that
next
year,
because
that's
what
people
want
they
want
that
convenience
so.
V
V
P
Q
Memory,
but
thank
you
very
much.
I,
never
had
the
pleasure
meeting
you
and
it's
pleasure
to
know
you
now
you're,
very
direct
and
very
straightforward
and
I
like
that
kind
of
approach.
Q
The
convention
center,
along
with
other
entities
in
the
city,
is
what
brought
it
up,
but
at
one
time
we
had
a
Convention
Center
in
zero
hotels
to
speak
of
so
therefore,
we
were
in
a
negative,
but
the
Marriott
came
on
the
Embassy
Suite
came
on,
others
came
on
to
Florida
and
did
a
lot
of
extensive
repairs
that
other
new
ones
have
opened,
certainly
won
a
five-star
one.
So
these
things
are
there
and
it's
led
to
a
lot
of
other
things.
For
instance,
the
aquariums
had
a
record
year
last
year,
having
I
believe
950.
Q
000
people
come
to
the
aquarium,
the
streetcar
just
travel
by
there
and
there's
a
lot
of
man.
You
know
Ambience
to
do
things
and
downtown
has
changed
when
it
was
in
the
70s
to
now,
and
it's
all
for
the
good.
You
look
at
the
other
one
that
we
have
the
Zoo
Tampa.
They
broke
all
records,
they're
the
largest
entity
of
their
class
in
the
State
of
Florida.
They
had
like
1
million
250,
some
thousand
people
visited
last
year
and
from
what
I
understand
during
a
record
year
this
year.
Q
Also,
these
are
the
things
that
certainly
the
people
come
to
town
come
to
the
city
and
they
enjoy
themselves.
But
if
it
wasn't
for
your
entity
and
the
two
entities
that
I
just
mentioned
kudos
to
all
of
you,
because
who
knows
what
would
be
happening
if
they
weren't
here,
so
it
would
be
a
different
downtown.
It
would
be
a
different
Ambiance.
Kids
learn
a
lot
when
they
go
to
the
aquarium
and
the
zoos
and
the
parents
learn
even
more.
Q
They
learn
to
keep
the
kids
close
to
him,
but
because
they're
getting
so
excited
they're,
just
an
exciting
thing
to
see
things
that
they've
never
seen
before.
So
these
are
the
things
that
are
bringing
it
to
Tampa
the.
Although
Convention
Center
is
well
over
25
years.
It
looks
like
it
was
built
yesterday
and
that's
the
maintenance
of
it
has
been
very
good
and
I'll
be
discussing
other
things
with
you
when
I
have
a
time
when
you
have
time.
Q
J
Custom
across
yeah,
just
one
more
quick
thing.
It
reminded
me,
especially
with
the
trolley
car
there's
connectivity
to
Ebor
and
the
folks
in
Ebor,
would
appreciate
more
kind
of
joint
marketing
collaboration
and
and
I
think
they're,
a
major
asset
that
that
is.
J
That
helps
sell
the
conventions
so,
to
the
extent
that
you
can
part
I
know
that's
partly
the
CBB,
but
it
to
the
extent
that
you
can
partner
with
them
more
there's,
there's
space,
there's
restaurant
venues
and
other
things,
and
they
would
love
to
partner
with
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
L
A
L
Mr
Beatty
and
then
Adrian
Colina
online
for
the
next
two
items.
If
that's
okay,.
M
Thank
you
G
and
morning,
chair
morning,
Council
Vic
bday,
director
mobility
department,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
West
Riverwalk
project.
Does
that
slide
up?
Yes?
Okay,.
L
M
So
the
West
Riverwalk
project
is
is
really
critical
to
our
Urban
core
and
renewal
on
the
west
side
of
the
river
along
downtown,
but
going
further
up
past
the
interstate
as
well.
This
was
made
possible
because
of
a
strong
business
case
made
to
Federal
Highway
through
the
build
Grant.
Specifically,
the
business
case
included
three
criteria:
Economic
Development
we've
seen
what
benefits
we
have
with
the
current
Riverwalk
on
the
east
side
of
the
river,
the
activity,
the
walkability
and
the
connectivity
that
it's
prospered.
M
The
second
is
connectivity
itself.
So,
while
this
is
a
two
mile
segment
along
the
river
and
Rome
Avenue,
and
partly
Platt
Street
and
Columbus
Drive,
which
kind
of
creates
a
loop
just
west
of
the
river.
N
M
Also
does
is
provides
seamless,
non-car
transport,
so
walk
bike
micro,
Mobility
connectivity,
all
the
way
from
Bayshore
and
Gandhi
to
Ybor
City
via
existing
trails
and
connections
that
we
have.
So
this
really
connects
a
big
part
of
Tampa
south
of
the
interstate,
including
neighborhoods
north
of
the
interstate,
which
brings
us
to
the
third
part
of
the
business
case,
and
that
is
equity.
M
This
was
also
critical
component
of
the
build
program
and
so
to
that-
and
this
facilitates
connectivity
to
West,
Tampa
and
neighborhoods
north
of
the
interstate,
both
very
diverse,
as
well
as
working
class
neighborhoods.
As
you
all
are
aware.
Next
slide,
please.
M
The
current
project
status
is
that
Council
approved
the
agreement
with
Federal
Highway
last
year.
We
thank
you
for
your
support
of
this
critical
project.
It
is
a
30
million
dollar
project,
24
million
dollars
from
Federal
Highway
6
million
dollar
match
by
the
city
towards
these
improvements
that
you
see
on
the
screen
and
more
as
we
discussed,
we
are
in
the
process
of
finalizing
the
RFP
package
and
getting
it
out
on
the
street
with
a
goal
to
complete
the
project
by
December
26th.
M
M
We
are
really
fortunate
as
a
city
to
have
a
world-class
team
and
led
by
Danny
and
Lara
and
Nina
that
are
at
the
helm
on
this
project
from
Mobility
by
Tony
and
Brad
on
Parkside
as
well.
So
this.
J
I
want
to
congratulate
your
team
and
anybody
who
worked
on
the
grants
process
also
and
thank
you
to
congresswoman
Castor
for
her
help
on
this.
The,
like
you
said
you
have
you
and
the
planning
department
have
some
really
brilliant
people
with
great
vision,
and
we
need
to
hear
more
of
those
voices
of
what
Tampa
can
be
and
and
really
think
ahead.
So
I
would
encourage
you
and,
and
any
of
those
great
minds
listening,
tell
us
so
that
we
can
put
you
on
the
gender
workshops
and
have
you
come
back?
J
C
Anyways
cousin
won
her
attack.
O
I
I
love
this
I'm
I'm
wildly
excited
about
it
and
thank
you
for
your
team
for
doing
everything
for
it,
the
other
the
one
thing
and
and
I
know
you're
just
talking
about
the
segments
that
are
already
here,
but
just
as
we
were
talking
earlier
about
the
Cass
Street
Extension
that
was
connected
just
earlier
this
week,
just
even
showing
that
on
this
map,
somehow
to
show
the
other
connectivity
that
this
is
going
to
bring
I
I
think
really
would
just
benefit
even
more
because
Cass
Street
just
slices
right
through
that
and
that's
adding
connectivity
to
West,
Tampa
and
also
to
Ebor.
M
Yes,
sir
I'd
just
like
to
make
a
final
Point:
we've
conducted
significant
Community
engagement
on
either
sides
of
the
river
and
the
interstate
towards
this
project
and
on
a
very
periodic
basis.
Brandy
does
present
to
the
West
Tampa
CRA,
West,
Tampa
Community
drain
and
the
friends
of
the
Riverwalk
and
I'm
sure
I'm
missing
a
lot
of
other
folks
as
well,
so
the
community
is
part
of
it
and
supports
it,
and
we
will
update
our
Communications
materials
accordingly.
Thank
you.
L
Thank
you.
Vic
I've
got
director
Andrew
Colleen
on
for
the
next
item
on
Han
Avenue
Adrie.
G
Yes
good
morning,
thank
you
Gene
good
morning,
Council
Adrian,
Colina,
director
of
logistics
and
asset
management,
I,
am
excited
to
appear
before
you
this
morning.
To
give
you
an
update
on
the
city
center
at
Hannah,
Avenue
and
I'll.
Just
keep
in
in
line
with
the
template
that
we
have
our
business
for
this
project
is
of
course,
for
decades
the
city
of
Tampa
has
operated
an
outdated,
inefficient
and
outgrown
lease
spaces
at
various
locations
throughout
the
city
which
are
also
located
in
flood
zones.
G
So
our
current
project
status,
I'm,
very
excited
I,
know
some
of
you
have
been
by
there.
Currently,
we
are
at
60
to
65
overall
project
completion.
We
broke
ground
on
the
project
a
year
ago
in
January
of
2022
two
buildings,
so
the
main
building
and
the
parking
garage
are
completely
up
we're
working
on
the
interior
of
the
main
building.
We
have
begun
working
on
the
foundation
for
the
fleet
site
and
then,
of
course,
facilities
will
follow
right
after
that
on
the
strategic
goal.
G
We
will
be
providing
you
we,
the
city
will
be
providing
you
with
an
apprenticeship
goal:
update
February
the
2nd,
but
I
can
give
you
a
little
sneak
peek
and
let
you
know
that
we
are
exceeding
those
goals
and
many
of
you
have
been
on
site
and
you
have
really
learned
firsthand
the
impacts
that
this
project
is
having
on
contractors
and
subs
and
apprentices
working
on
site,
so
we're
making
a
big
difference
in
the
lives
of
so
many
because
of
this
project
tomorrow
there
will
be
DPR
is
hosting
a
job
fair
at
the
NFL,
yet
Center
in
the
heart
of
East
Tampa
on
Lake
Avenue.
G
It
is
East,
Tampa,
Pacific,
Hannah,
specific
and
we're
looking
for
all
trades
and
that's
going
to
take
take
place
from
9am
to
noon
tomorrow.
So
just
wanted
to
give
you
an
update
on
that
from
a
transportation
standpoint.
Oh
thank
you.
A
few
weeks
ago,
you
approved
some
Mobility
improvements,
which
will
make
a
difference,
and
that
was
a
concern
of
the
neighbors.
Just
increasing
street
lights,
adding
sidewalks
so
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Mr
bday
and
his
team
as
well
for
partnering
with
us.
G
Sustainability
and
resiliency
I
am
very
proud
to
share
with
you
that
this
project
actually
won
an
AIA
architecture
award
at
their
recent
Tampa
Bay
design,
awards
ceremony
held
towards
the
end
of
last
year.
G
We
won
in
the
unbuilt
category
because,
as
you
know,
the
project
will
be
a
silver
lead
project,
so
the
project
one
based
on
the
emphasis
on
resilience,
our
Energy
Water
structure
and
lighting
components
as
well
as
well
as
indoor
air
quality
and
again
Council
recommended,
or
specifically
asked
for
additional
solar
panels
to
the
flea
and
Facilities
building
EV
charging
stations
and
some
other
items
that,
together
with
what
was
already
baked
into
the
project,
really
earned
us
that
award
affordable
housing.
G
And
so
you
know
I've
just
hit
on
some
of
the
highlights
of
the
project
and
the
many
benefits.
Lastly,
I
want
to
share
it's
again:
it's
a
coupe
site,
but
it
will
be
in
a
non-flood
zone,
so
we'll
be
in
evacuation
area
e,
which
is
63
feet
above
sea
level
versus
right
now,
you're,
currently
at
tmob
you're
at
3016,
and
our
current
EOC
is
at
a
51
foot
and
it's
also
a
hardened
building.
G
So
we've
taken
great
care
to
ensuring
that
moving
us
into
the
future,
we're
in
the
the
best
space
for
all
of
us
in
terms
of
budget
I
know,
we've
heard
many
times
over.
The
108
million
I
just
want
to
remind
everyone
that
that
108
million
includes
what
was
approved
and
spent
in
2015
the
original
project.
G
It
includes
what
council
allowed
for
an
amendment
to
the
project
in
March
of
2021,
which
was
6.3
million,
and
that
was
for
the
design,
build
and
Demolition,
and
then,
of
course,
it
includes
the
GMP
that
Council
also
approved
in
November
of
2021
for
the
actual
construction
and
that's
the
101
million.
So
that's
where
we
stand
in
terms
of
budget
and
with
that
I
think
that's
what
I
have
for
an
update
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
councilman.
C
J
Yes,
thank
you.
I
want
to
congratulate
Saul,
Fletcher
and
his
team
for
brilliant
architecture
and
anybody
else
who
worked
with
them.
Thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
pushing
for
the
sustainability
aspects
of
the
project
just
on
the
numbers
for
a
second.
If
I
could
ask
some
clarifying
questions,
it
was
108
million,
but
on
the
back
here
it
says
119,
610
801.
J
U
Hi
adri
and
hello
again:
Council
Dennis,
we're
here,
Chief
Financial,
Officer
I
can
answer
that
yeah
when
you.
If
you
look
at
the
detail,
you'll
see
that
the
108
million
was
referencing.
Of
course,
the
debt
issuance
we
did
for
the
overwhelming
majority
of
the
cost.
That's
the
series
2021
B.
However,
there
have
been
other
funding
sources
approved
for
this
project
over
time,
either
as
as
adri
Ms
Galena
referenced
years
ago,
or
up
until
relatively
recently
for
the
total
you
see
there
of
119
points.
So
that's
the
total
cost.
J
U
I
will
also
we've
got
that
somewhere.
I.
Don't
have
it
right
on
me
unless
Ms
Collina
has
it,
she
may
have
it
at
hand.
G
I
actually
do
so.
We
broke
that
down
and
the
O
M
cost
for
30
years.
Let
me
find
that
slide.
For
you.
Councilman
was
a
little
over
half
a
million
a
year
for
all
the
sites.
Let
me
find
that
I
apologize.
J
G
J
You
don't
mind
getting
it
in
Senate,
both
the
interest
and
the
and
the
annual
o
m
costs
and
just
circulate
it
to
Council
that'd,
be
great
and
then
to
the
back
on
the
page
before
that
it
asks
about,
or
it
talks
about,
the
500
000
that
would
that
was
that's
the
current
or
or
before
we
plan
this
project.
That's
the
annual
lease
payments,
we're
paying
for
people
to
be
in
multiple
places
around
the
city
and
then
o
m.
U
U
G
J
While
you're
doing
that,
if
you
just
take,
if
you
just
take
500
000
a
year
for
what
we're
paying
now
and
you
multiply
it
by
30
years,
understanding
that
may
go
up,
but
that's
about
15
million
correct
versus
you
have
to
come
to
doing.
Apples
and
apples.
You'd
have
to
take
100
119
plus
set.
If,
let's
say,
71
is
the
interest,
so
that
would
be
190
plus
whatever
the
o
m
is
over
30
years
and
then
divide
that
out
by
year.
U
And
we
and
we've
run
that
sir,
with,
as
you
I
believe
you
mentioned
an
inflationary
factor
and
when
you
do
that,
of
course,
even
if
it's
just
three
five
seven
percent
over
the
course
of
30
years,
it
will
be
appreciably
more
than
half
a
million.
But
we've
run
that
we'll
get
that
too.
J
Yeah
so
just
be
kind
of
back
in
the
napkin,
not
including
o
m.
It
looks
like
it's
about
six
or
seven
million
dollars
a
year.
That's
the
120
million
plus
interest.
We
don't
know
what
o
m
would
be.
But
let's
say
it's
6
million
a
year
versus
500,
000..
I
know
everybody
need
to
be
Consolidated,
but
did
you
all
look
at
if
you
could
rent
how
many
square
feet
is
it.
G
J
I'm
not
obviously
this
project
is
almost
finished.
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
trying
to
undo
the
project
I'm
just
trying
to
explain,
because
the
public,
because
of
all
the
publicity
public,
ask
a
lot
of
questions
and
I'm
just
trying
to
get
to
the
the
business
case
for
it.
So
I
can
explain
if
they
see
well
you're,
paying
500
000
a
year
with,
with
this
other
project,
you're
going
to
be
paying
seven
million
dollars
a
year
or
more,
but
it
was
a
30-year
lease.
J
G
Yeah
no
I
do
and
I.
Thank
you
and
I.
Actually
thank
you
for
bringing
this
up
because
you're
absolutely
right.
There's
a
lot
of
information
out
there
and
and
a
lot
of
it
is
inaccurate.
So
I
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
kind
of
clarify
and
thank
you
for
your
patience
with
me
as
I
found
the
numbers
so
annual
lease
and
O
M
currently
is
at
507
000
a
year
and
again
this
is
based
on
leases
that
we
entered
into
30
years
ago
for
our
Lemon
Street
site.
We
only
pay
o
m.
G
We
do
not
pay
anything.
It's
there
for
North
Boulevard
we're
currently
paying
121
000
a
year
a
year
can't
find
that
now,
which
is
our
EOC
and
some
offices
there
we're
paying
200
000
a
year.
So
when
you
add
all
that
for
30
years,
you're
looking
at
15.2
million
looking
at
today's
prices
for
rent
and
lease
comparison
based
on
current
market
value,
you're
looking
more
at
2.3
million
annually,
and
so
over
3
30
years,
you're
talking
about
69
million
dollars
on
a
space
that
we
will
never
own.
G
So
and
again
this
doesn't
include
o
m,
which
I
do
not
have
for
you
right
now,
but
it
already
shows
right
there.
You
know
you're,
looking
at
70
million
dollars
on
sites
that
are
not
as
conducive,
but
not
not
constructed,
specifically
for
our
customers
for
our
employees
and
we
will
never
own
I.
J
Just
did
and
sorry
to
belabor
this
and
and
if
you
get
any
compared
apples
and
apples,
comparison
would
be
interesting
to
see
what
we're
paying
now,
what
we
would
pay
if
we
rented
161
000
square
feet
and
and
then
what
we're
paying
for
this,
including
interest
capital
and
O
M.
But
do
you
have
any
idea
why
the
per
square
foot
lease
rates
are
in
that
area
right
now,
yeah.
J
So
I
got
I
mean
the
the
a
lot
of
places
now
this
is
on
the
higher
end,
but
a
lot
of
places
are
paying
70
a
foot
I
just
multiplied
out.
That's
like
11
million
dollars
a
year.
If
you
have
that
for
35,
that's
five
and
a
half
billion
dollars
a
year,
so
that
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
what
the
lease
rates
are
there.
Now
it
was
some
kind
of
escalation
in
it
and
and
I.
J
G
Welcome
councilman
and
one
more
thing,
I
want
you
to
just
know
that
we've
been
extremely
mindful
of
council,
has
and
rightfully
so
been
very
vocal
about
not
having
an
appetite
for
leasing
space
and
for
us
owning
it
for
having
something
that
will
be
ours,
which
is
in
the
long
term,
in
the
best
interest.
So
that
was
another
reason
why
we
steered
clear
of
that
leasing.
Option.
C
O
You
I
did
a
tour
with
you
a
few
weeks
ago
of
this
space,
and
you
talked
about
needing
to
come
back
and
ask
us
for
more
money
for
the
project.
So
this
is
not
going
to
be.
The
total
could.
G
When
we
came
before
you
in
in
asking
for
your
approval
on
the
GMP,
we
did
not
have
the
fleet
and
Facilities
equip
the
solar,
because
we
were
trying
to
be
mindful
of
cost,
but
Council
asked
for
that
and
I
think
that's
a
great
thing
and
it
helped
us
get
the
award
and
it'll
help
us
for
sustainability
in
the
future.
That
ad,
of
course,
wasn't
included
in
the
GMP
because
it
was
asked
where
we
came
before
you.
G
We
have
not
come
sooner
because
really
it
wasn't
the
time
to
ask
for
that
money
to
do
the
ordering
and
installation,
but
as
the
progress
has
occurred
here,
we
are-
and
it
also
includes
the
editions
of
the
EV
charging
stations
again
Council
asked,
but
if
something
we
really
want
and
need.
So
we
were
excited
to
accommodate
that
ask.
It
sets
us
up
for
success
in
the
future
and
then
it
also
includes
a
minor
increase
for
cost
and
supplies.
Q
Q
So
when
somebody
else
when
you
move
out
built
your
old
building,
that's
an
unintended
positive
to
you,
because
somebody
else
is
paying
that
at
the
alarm,
tax
and
you're
not
paying
it
in
that.
In
that
lease
deal
somewhere
along
the
land,
it
has
to
be
figured
out.
I,
don't
know
what
that
number
is,
but
I
think
you
mentioned
Lemon
Street,
that's
a
government
building!
Isn't
it
yes,.
Q
G
Q
Q
Q
If
you
have
a
lease,
then
they
can
say:
I
want
another
30
or
40
percent.
What
are
you
going
to
do,
then?
Where
are
you
going
to
move
to?
How
are
you
going
to
move?
Where
are
you
going
to
find
a
place
to
live?
It's
the
same
thing
in
business
and
the
hardware
business
anybody's
got
a
warehouse,
that's
warehousing.
Q
Q
Q
But
what
I'm
saying
is,
if
you
own
your
property,
you
control
your
destiny
to
a
point.
If
you
leased
your
property
and
you
live
in
at
least
someone
else
controls
your
destiny
to
a
bigger
point.
So
I've
always
thought.
If
you
have
ownership,
you
have
some
value
at
the
end
when
it's
paid
for
much
greater
than
what
you
bought
it
for
and
you
can
see
the
marketplace.
Q
You
go
back
from
the
70s
and
the
80s
even
10
years
ago,
people
bought
something
that
I
thought
was
out
of
out
of
line
and
the
one
that
was
underlined
was
me
because
if
they
paid
300
000,
that's
worth
five
hundred
thousand
and
and
these
are
the
individuals
that
understand
the
marketplace-
I'm,
not
a
market
player
I,
don't
know
that
game.
I,
don't
know
that
business,
but
I
can
tell
you
it's
better
to
own
than
to
lease.
I
have
never
leased
a
car.
Q
P
P
G
So
Target
date
right
now
total
completion,
we're
looking
end
of
October,
we're
looking
to
have
main
building
complete
the
end
of
July
of
this
year,
with
the
fleet
building
being
complete,
the
end
of
September
and
the
facilities
building
end
of
October.
P
G
Correct
that
is
a
strong
possibility.
I
will
tell
you,
though,
we
fully
anticipate
well,
there's
two
things:
I
want
to
tell
you
also
included
when
we
come
before
you
on
the
16th
is
going
to
be
a
credit
of
a
million
dollars
and
that
credit
back
to
us
is
because
our
facilities
team
has
been
able
to
secure
the
Furnishings
for
that
building
at
a
much
lower
cost
than
what
was
included
in
the
GMP
and
no
sales
tax.
G
So
the
correction
or
the
reconciliation
that
we're
going
to
be
bringing
before
you
on
February
16th
isn't
only
asking
for
more
money,
but
it's
also
reflecting
a
bit
of
a
credit
and
then
in
terms
of
additional
costs.
We
do
expect
to
ask
for
some
additional
funding
for
AV,
Equipment
and
I'm
going
to
be
very
honest
with
you
in
the
GMP.
We
really
try
to
be
as
modest
and
concerned
conservative
as
we
could
be
not
to
ask
for
any
more
than
we
really
needed.
G
But
when
we
look
at
equipment
equipping
especially
the
the
community
room
room
that
the
community
has
asked
for
and
that
you
all
will
use
in
times
of
emergency
as
a
coupe
site,
you
can
conduct
your
Council
meetings
there.
We
want
to
make
sure
we
equip
it
with
the
appropriate
AV
Equipment
and
that
wasn't
completely
included
in
the
November
2021
GMP,
again
just
keeping
it
conservative
and
modest.
G
But
if
we're
building
that
facility-
and
we
have
that
intended
use
long
term-
then
let's
set
us
up
for
Success
from
the
beginning,
but
we
also
expect
another
credit.
So
what
what
the
next
time
that
I
come
before
you
and
that
will
be
towards
the
end
of
the
project.
I
can't
give
you
that
number,
but
I
can
tell
you.
We
are
working
very,
very,
very
jointly
and
aggressively
to
keep
the
costs
down
while
making
sure
we're
equipping
ourselves
right.
I.
P
Guess
maybe
I
was
a
little
confused
in
our
numbers,
but
I
I
was
thinking
that
the
total
price
for
everything
was
the
total
price
and
I
I
didn't
know
we
had
not
included
or
the
solar
or
the
AV
was
not
included
in
the
total
price.
Once
we
made
that
decision.
But
now
we
come
back
saying
that
that's
not
included
and
then
we're
talking
about
later
on
down
the
line
for
the
total
completion
of
October
projects.
P
There
could
be
more
cost
and
increased
costs
for
this
project,
so
the
public
is
already
a
little
weary
about
the
project
which
we've
already
moved
down
that
that
road,
I'm
selling
the
project
you
know,
I
think
it
will
be
good
for
some
aspects
for
each
Tampa
for
growth
and
development
for
new
businesses
to
pop
up,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
people
coming
to
the
east
side,
but
they're
also
going
to
look
at
the
money
value,
so
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
hoping
that
now
we're
talking
about
initial
3.7
that
this
is
not
going
to
really
exceed
another
another
3.7
or
higher
for
the
completion
of
this
project.
P
G
So
there
was
no
way
that
anyone
could
have
thought
that
was
included
if
that
came
up
in
that
discussion
and
we
agreed
to
it
and
we're
happy
to
it.
But
now
here
we
are,
you
know
what
that
cost
is,
and
so
that's
why
that
wasn't
included
initially,
because
it
came
out
in
that
November
2021
meeting.
D
A
G
Say
one
more
thing
to
to
councilman
Miranda's
Point.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
completely
agree
with
what
you're
talking
about
owning,
but
another,
very,
very
positive
component
of
this
project
is:
we
are
not
making
ourselves
fit
into
an
existing
building.
We
are
listening
to
the
community
members
and
what
they
wanted.
We
are
listening
to
our
employees
in
what
they
need
to
better
service,
our
customers,
and
we
are
now
creating
that
building
around
those
needs,
rather
than
us
fitting
into
something.
That's
already
there.
G
We
are
creating
extra
parking,
which
is
something
our
contractors
complain
about
consistently
about
the
current
Construction
Services
Center,
the
inability
to
park,
so
that's
another
plus
to
having
our
building
and
designing
and
building
it
ourselves.
C
O
You
you
mentioned
getting
a
million
dollar
credit
back
for
furnishing.
G
It
does
not
mean
that
at
all,
okay,
we
are
definitely
taking
what
we
can,
but
in
the
Lemon
Street
example,
that's
really
the
one
that
we're
purchasing
the
majority
for.
What's
there
honestly,
is
what
the
dot
Left
Behind
they
vacated
that
building
many
years
ago,
because
that
building
is
being
demolished
and,
sadly
that's
what
our
city
employees
have
been
using.
There.
O
Okay,
well
I
appreciate
that
I
just
wanted
the
clarification
that
that
we
aren't
just
you
know,
throwing
everything
out
and
starting
over.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
councilman.
G
Not
I
I,
when
I
tell
you
councilwoman
hurt,
we
have
been
committed
to
being
modest
and
conservative,
we're
doing
that
on
all
fronts
and
that
Furnishing
that
I'm,
asking
for
or
that
I'm
mentioning
that
we're
purchasing
also
includes
the
break
rooms.
It
also
includes
the
Furnishings
for
the
community
room
that
we
don't
currently
have.
So
those
are
things
that
we
need
to
buy,
but
where
we're
able
to
take
furniture,
we
absolutely
are.
Q
Miranda,
thank
you
very
much.
Mr
chairman
solar
cost
is
borne
by
a
lot
of
things,
but
what
are
the
benefits?
First
of
all,
not
only
this
country,
but
this
world
is
killing
Itself
by
not
paying
attention
to
the
environment.
Q
Solar
is
one
small
piece
that
will
help
not
use
as
much
oil
or
as
much
other
heating
equipment
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
that
it's
creating
an
enormous
problem
and
health-wise,
and
not
only
in
this
country,
but
to
what
we're
actually
killing
ourselves.
So
what
does
solar
do?
I
can
tell
you
because
I
put
solar
in
my
house.
Q
It
went
I'm
saving
about
110
a
month
on
a
month
that
you
have
very
little
due
to
the
weather
it's
a
beautiful
month
and
you
don't
have
the
air
on
or
you
don't
have,
the
heat
on
or
whatever
on
the
winter
months.
In
the
summer
months,
from
my
modest
bill,
I
say
about
140
to
150
a
month.
My
bill
has
never
been
more
than
34
dollars
a
month.
Q
Well
because
of
the
Heat
and
and
I'm
saying
that
that's
on
the
high
side
on
the
low
side,
it's
always
been
constant.
24
a
month,
so
what
that
does
is
an
expense,
but
it's
not
only
an
expansion.
It's
inexpensive
at
the
end
of
the
day
when
it's
paid
for
it's
in
Reverse
you're
collecting
a
hundred
percent
of
that
profit
that
you're
not
spending
so
because
you
don't
have
the
principle
and
the
interest
involved.
Q
J
Yeah
just
quick
statement
in
in
business
or
in
government
public
policy
analysis.
You
have
to
look
at
Alternatives.
We
talked
about
Alternatives
analysis,
a
lot
with
pure
and
whatever
we're
calling
it
now,
but
I
think
with
any
major
Capital
project
or
any
very
expensive
project.
J
We
have
to
look
at
Alternatives
and
the
the
time
to
do
that
was
a
couple
years
ago,
but
there
I
just
want
everybody
to
know
the
reason
why
I
ask
questions
about
how
much
it
costs
to
rent
versus
buy
is
not
making
an
argument
of
One
Versus,
the
other
it's
to
try
to
get
what
the
reasonable
alternative
would
have
been.
So
we
can
make
the
business
case.
It
was
the
same
thing
with
the
incinerator.
J
J
The
idea
was
to
find
out
what
are
the
alternative
costs,
and
so
in
this
case,
if
I
don't
know
what
the
real
numbers
are,
but
let's
say
renting,
and
if
you
put
an
escalation
Clause,
if
renting,
if
a
renting
model
said,
we
would
have
paid
five
million
dollars
a
year
for
161
000
square
feet
and
by
the
way
you
can
get
purpose-built
investors.
Private
investors
will
go
in
just
like
they
do
a
post
office,
everybody
else,
but
if
you
and
they'll
do
long-term
contracts.
J
But
if
you,
if
you,
if
you
created
a
long-term
lease-
and
let's
say
it-
was
five
million
dollars
a
year
versus
spending-
seven
eight
I-
don't
know
what
it
is
with
o
m,
plus
all
the
other
costs,
then
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
legitimately
save
the
public.
J
We
looked
at
alternatives
and
buying
is
slightly
is,
is
whatever
it
is
three
million
dollars
more
a
year,
but
here
are
the
reasons
why
we
think
it's
better
or
in
the
best
case
we
would
save
money,
but
but
I
think
that,
just
just
to
show
that
we're
being
thorough
and
transparent
the
public,
we
just
need
to
show
them
what
what
we
could
have
done
and
why
we
made
the
choice.
That's
that's
my
point.
Thank
you.
C
Anyone
else,
Mr,
Rogero
out
of
all
the
Departments,
will
now
be
at
the
Hannah
Street
Building,
how
how
many
of
those
departments
actually
own
land
or
how
much
of
those
departments
are
out
owned,
are
on
city-owned
land.
U
Is
the
Lemon
Street,
for
example,
you
know
we're
renting
that
from
another
entity,
even
though
it
is
governmental,
so
that's
not
our
land,
but
so
facilities
or
real
estate
may
have
a
map
of
where
all
these
locations
are.
But
I
don't
have
that.
C
G
I
would
like
to
say
one
more
thing
too,
to
councilman
Carlson's
Point,
absolutely
renting
was,
could
have
been
an
option
and
we
have
considered
you
know
many
many
things
to
get
to
this
point.
I
don't
want
anyone
to
to
have
the
false
impression
that
we
didn't
consider
alternatives.
We
did
but
remember
too,
following
covid,
we
saw
a
lot
of
things
that
kind
of
out
of
our
control
and
we
really
wanted
to
control
our
destiny.
G
A
little
more
have
our
Coop
site
and
just
set
us
up
for
consistent
locations
moving
to
one
site
and
just
serving
our
customers
the
best
for
the
long
term.
So
we've
considered
it
all,
and
we
do
believe
that
we
we
do
believe
this
is
the
best
option.
W
Good
morning,
city
council
Brad
bear
Deputy
Deputy
Administrator
of
infrastructure
if
I
could
get
the
pipe
slide.
Thank
you
very
much
excited
to
talk
to
you
this
morning
about
the
pipes
program.
It's
the
largest
infrastructure
program
in
Tampa's
history.
As
you
recall,
it
was
passed
in
September
of
2019.
W
I
want
to
point
out
that
the
business
case
that
we
did
you
know
in
that
prior
year
included
four
Master
plans
with
extensive
review
of
the
data
of
the
existing
systems
for
both
treatment
plants,
all
the
pumping
stations
in
each
department
and
the
collection
system,
Wastewater
collection
system
and
then
the
water
distribution
system.
So
again
it
was
four
separate
Master
plans
to
get
us
to
the
point
to
where
we
had
a
priority
list
of
projects
and
Alternatives
of
to
present
to
you
that
September
it.
W
We
are
three
and
a
half
years
into
this
program,
which
is
approximately
17
percent
of
that
20
years.
However,
we
have
so
far
for
we've
had
115
projects
under
the
pipes
program
in
various
stages
of
design,
construction
or
even
many
we've
closed
out,
we've
completed
them
and
that
totals
1.2
billion
or
41
of
the
2.9
billion,
or
so
are
time
wise,
we're
17
in
Dollar
Wise
we're
over
40
percent
in
so
I
I'll
stop
there.
W
J
Quickly-
and
you
probably
don't
remember
the
numbers
on
top
of
your
head,
but
you
were
talking
about
the
business
case,
the
business
case
it
was
present
at
the
time
was
the
cost
that
it
to
ad
hoc
repairs
that
that
caught
if
a
pipe
bursts,
you
have
to
send
an
emergency
team
and
you
have
to
pay
more
for
that
and
you
have
to
repair.
And
so,
as
you
did,
the
timeline
I
don't
have
the
whole
chart
in
my
head.
J
W
Is
correct,
councilman,
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up,
because
at
the
time,
if
you
recall
we
presented,
we
gave
an
example
of
the
Wastewater
Department.
It
was
costing
us
20
20
million
dollars
a
year
just
for
the
cabin
repairs
right
well.
That
cost
has
gone
up
in
the
in
the
last
three
years,
but
same
with
water
line
breaks
if
you're
reactive,
the
costs
are
much
greater
than
if
you
can
be
proactive.
So
thank
you.
X
Okay,
all
right
appreciate
it
good
morning,
Council
coin
administrator
of
neighborhood
and
Community
Affairs
and
under
the
practice
today,
ceresi
has
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation.
We
have
a
number
of
them,
so
we're
going
to
tag
team.
The
first
one
we're
going
to
present
before
you
is
the
East
Tampa
Recreation
Center,
as
I
presented
to
you
recently
we
are
in
the
we
have
issued
the
notice
to
proceed
for
this
project.
X
The
reason
why
this
project
was
needed,
it
was
essential,
is
that
the
building
in
and
of
itself
was
over
30
years
long,
30
years
old,
and
not
only
that
when
I
first
came
on
board,
we
had
we
received
a
number
of
complaints
from
the
community
members
about
rats
in
the
buildings
and
how
the
building
had
not
been
renovated.
So
in
order
for
us
to
make
those
repairs,
we
committed
to
doing
a
complete
replacement
of
the
recreation
center,
as
well
as
an
addiction
to
the
building
in
order
to
meet
the
needs
of
the
community.
X
They
are
in
the
process
of
gathering
data
and
doing
site
work
and
preparations
for
the
project.
We
expect
that
to
be
completed
this
month,
but
by
the
end
of
this
month,
beginning
of
next
month,
and
then
we
will
start
with
the
public
engagement.
X
The
first
public
engagement
is
scheduled
for
the
15th
of
February
and
then
we'll
have
another
one
on
February
18th
as
well.
Councilman
Goose
I
know
was
your
concern
that
we
would
not
have
nine
months
of
public
engagement.
We're
not
going
to
do
that.
We
have
decreased
that
time
so
that
we
can
get
the
input
and
the
information
that
we
need
so
that
we
can
funnel
that
to
the
design
team
as
they're
designing
the
building
we're
right
now
we're
at.
X
We
expect
the
30
percent
design
reveal
in
March
as
we
get
to
those
design
phases,
we
will
communicate
that
out
to
you
and
to
the
public
and
after
we
get
the
complete
input
for
the
design.
We
expect
that
to
be
completed.
This
year,
before
the
end
of
this
year,
I
want
to
set
and
manage
expectations
that
this
is
a
huge
project.
So
when
we
went
before
the
community
before
we
communicated
that
this
will
take
this
project
because
it's
going
to
be
done
properly,
will
take
about
two
years
into
completion.
X
Y
Director
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
like
ocia,
said
you
know
we're
going
through
the
period
that
we're
getting
input
from
the
community
is
going
to
be
a
short
period.
And,
as
she
said,
is
really
to
manage
expectations,
as
we've
heard
a
lot
of
numerous
things
that
want
to
be
in
this
park,
but
to
manage
what
actually
could
be
in
this
park,
and,
as
you
said
before
this,
this
campus,
we
had
issues
with
it.
We've
expanded
it.
Y
So
it's
going
from
three
acres
to
10
acres,
vacating,
two
roads
to
make
it
very
safe,
but
also
making
a
multi-generational
facility
that
will
last
throughout
the
year.
So
we're
not
just
thinking
for
this
year
next
year.
But
what
does
it
look
like
for
the
entire
community
of
these
Tampa
to
have
a
multi-generational
facilities
with
certain
aspects
that
are
truly
a
specific,
whether
it's
a
senior
center
or
for
our
youth
or
for
our
teens,
and
that
is
how
this
community
this
component
is
going
to
be
built.
Councilman,
Goods.
P
Well,
thank
you,
ladies
for
the
presentation.
You
know
again
this
this
design
this.
This
whole
purpose
was
supposed
to
be
about
Al
Barnes,
but
we
had
a
consistent
with
the
mayor
and
we
engaged
in
made
it
one
big
project
which
I'm
happy
for
that.
I'm
glad
that
we
knocked
this
a
community
game
down,
because
we
don't
need
a
year
of
community
engagement
for
this
project.
We
know
our
needs.
You
know,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
all
those
communities
are
at
the
table.
Y
We
have
to
give
the
consultant:
some
of
them
are
going
to
be
at
our
rec
centers,
but
some
of
them
also
looking
at
I
believe
local,
high
schools
or
auditoriums
that
are
in
that
community.
So.
P
I
see
so
so
I
see
a
meeting
on
the
15
or
on
the
18th,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
the
the
meetings
are
at
a
neutral
place.
Yes,.
X
P
Yes,
sir
I
don't
want
ownership
of
one
takes
another
I
I
want
to
make
that
clear,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
everyone's
involved
in
the
process
and
we
move
down
the
road.
I
know
two
years
is
a
while,
but
like
I
said,
the
Hannah
project
is
moving
and-
and
it's
no
need
that
this
project
can't
move
as
fast
as
the
handle
project
moving.
P
So
I
want
to
put
that
out
there
now,
there's
no
need
that
this
project
has
to
be
delayed,
that
they
delayed
when
Hannah
is
moving
and
Hannah's
going
to
be
done
in
October
for
Mr
beard.
He
just
told
me
and
Miss
Galena
the
23rd
in
October
of
23
this
year,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
ain't,
we
kicking
the
skin
down
the
road
we
need
it
built.
We
built
it
at
one
time,
not
bits
and
pieces
Community
coming
back
saying.
Well
how
come
that
ain't
ready?
P
Yet
it's
going
to
be
built,
let's
build
it,
no
different
than
the
Hannah
project.
I.
Think
most
council
members
would
agree
to
that
because
they're
asking
every
day
about
that
Hannah's
moving
where
why
are
we
not
moving?
Yet
and
I
I
keep
telling
people
they're
in
the
design,
Bill
phase
they're
going
to
have
your
meetings
and
then
hopefully,
we'll
have
this
design
put
out,
so
people
can
see
when
we're
gonna
get
started
with
with
some
dirt
being
lifted.
So
this
is
a
big
project
for
East
Tampa
everyone's
excited
about
this.
P
You
know
again,
they
went
through
about
Hannah,
but
they've
come
on
board
about
Hannah
because
they
see
some
things
could
be
prosperous
in
the
city
for
East
Tampa,
but
they
also
want
what
they
want
as
well,
because
it's
not
Hannah
was
what
told
me
what
they
wanted.
This
is
what
they
want,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we
get
it
built
and
again
have
not
heard
anything
about
three
naming.
We
need
to
get
that
to
get
that
up
off
the
table.
You
know
again,
I,
don't
know.
P
If
council
members
know
that
that
Community
was
never
called
Fair
Oaks,
the
park
was
called
Fair
Oaks
number
two
Fair
Oaks
was
a
wooded
area
with
oak
trees
and
then
one
some
Mr
Gambrell
who
we
gave
a
combination
to
him
and
a
few
others
just
said.
There
was
not
equity
in
the
city
for
kids
for
football
and
that
nature
and
other
activities
and
the
oak
trees
were
knocked
down
and
they
put
the
name
fair
in
front
of
Oaks
and
that's
how
Fair
Oaks
was
developed.
P
I
was
still
again.
Mr
Gambrell
was
a
gentleman
who
was
the
manager
in
the
Parks
and
Rec
Department.
Most
of
our
academic
employees
were
hired
with
Mr
Gambrell.
He
handled
most
of
the
issues
on
the
east
side
and
that's
why
I
had
asked
for
that
to
be
done,
and
then
we
come
to
Miss
Betty
Bell
who's,
the
Catalyst
of
the
senior
center.
P
So
there
are
a
lot
of
people
want
some
names
done,
but
again
the
project
is
the
East
Tampa,
Regional,
Center
and
hopefully
Mr
gambrell's
name
could
be
somewhere
down
the
line.
Maybe
Miss
Bell
could
be
on
the
Senate
Senior
Center
I
even
got
a
call
from
Miss
the
whites
in
records
too
Bernardine
called
me.
I
told
her.
P
Maybe
that's
me
down
the
line,
but
right
now
we've
got
probably
two
names
already
to
put
on
things
over
that
part,
possibly,
and
but
we
were
grateful
for
give
me
a
call,
but
at
the
community
I've
met
several
Community
meetings.
I
met
with
Jazzy
seniors
I
have
told
them
the
same
thing.
In
reference
to
Mr
Gambrell
and
Miss
Bell
I've
told
the
Pharaoh,
the
little
community
group
in
Fair
Oaks
I've,
told
them
the
same
thing.
P
The
councilman
has
told
the
community
what
needs
to
be
done,
how
we
can
change
the
stigma,
how
we
keep
getting
people
together,
togetherness
for
all
those
Parks,
all
those
different
areas
and
the
amenities
that
will
come
to
them
so
I'll
take
the
front
of
any
hitch,
but
I
mean
I've
already
said
that
Mr
Gambrell
needs
to
be
a
part
of
that
Park.
He
was
the
Catalyst
of
that
area
over
there
and
I
stand
firm
on
that
I
know
some
people
talk
about
at
some
Fair,
Oaks
I.
P
Don't
know
where
they
came
from,
but
again
I
I
expressed
my
concerns
and
I'm
doing
it
publicly
right
now,
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
that
I'm
favorable,
okay,
I
used
to
have
a
regional
I'm
in
favor
of
Mr
Gabrielle
being
on
there
and
again
I
I
made
that
clear
to
all
those
neighborhoods
and
they
know
where
I
stand
on
that,
and
they
have
been
embraced
me
with
that
saying.
P
You're
right
artists
did
what
he
needed
to
do
here
for
our
people
in
this
community
and
I
know
the
there
are
a
group
over
there
that
are
getting
together
to
get
a
Community
Association
over
there.
I
was
at
that
meeting
a
couple
of
weeks
ago
and
I
told
my
sentiments,
then
I
don't
care
about
the
the
the
building
of
when
it's
re-erected
being
have
ferox
on
the
building.
You
have
no
problem
with
that.
P
I
wish
you
would
that,
but
I
do
take
issue
that
we
we
don't
give
homage
to
a
man
who
was
the
Catalyst
of
that
facility
into
that
community.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
administration
hears
me
Miss,
Hills
and
Miss
Cecil
win
I've
been
strongly
about
that
and
I've
told
Miss
McGregor
as
well.
What
I,
what
I,
what
I'm,
expecting
what
I'm
hoping
to
to
accomplish
for
that
community
over
there
is
the
togetherness
are
for
all
so
I.
P
Q
J
Yeah,
a
few
different
things
number
one:
we
have
complaints
coming
from
all
over
City
I
have
complaints
of
my
district
counseling
about
benches
falling
apart
about
lack
of
painting
and
other
kinds
of
things
on
and
Parks
facilities,
and
somebody
might
be
watching
this
and
say
why
is
this
park
being
built
like
this
and
I
just
want
to
say
as
a
representative
not
of
this
District
as
I've
gone
around
to
parks
in
the
city?
This
was,
if
not
the
worst
one
of
the
worst
that
I
had
seen.
J
The
community
demanded
that
we
do
something
about
it
and
we
went
out
there.
City,
council,
I,
think
sitting
as
a
CRA
board
and
a
large
number
of
people
showed
up
from
the
community
and
what
they
pointed
out
is
there
had
not
been
equal
or
Equitable
investment
over
there.
It's
where
other
Parks
have
at
least
basic
amenities.
This
park
and
the
other
Parks
surrounding
it
did
not
have
basic
communities.
That's
when
council
member
Goods
was
talking
about
Al,
Barnes
and
other
clothes
part
in
the
Years
just
prior
to
us.
J
Coming
on
board,
there
were
a
couple
proposals
to
spend
like
375
000,
just
to
renovate
it.
It
had
not
been
even
painted
or
touched
up
in
a
long
long
time
and
I,
don't
think
significantly
renovated
in
decades,
when
we,
when
we
did
the
the
in
the
in
those
proposals
to
renovate,
were
rejected.
Before
our
time
we
went
to
the
public
meeting,
the
community
complained
that
that
it
was
a
fire
trap.
They
complained,
it
didn't
have
basic
amenities
that
other
Parks
have
and,
and
they
said
there
were
rats
in
the
ceiling.
J
I
think
the
city
only
caught
one
in
the
end,
but
they
were
complaining
that
red
hairs
were
falling
down
and
kids
and
others
didn't
want
to
go
there,
and
that
was
not
a
condition
we
want
in
a
in
a
city
that
wants
to
be
world
class.
So
we
all
agreed
that
there
should
be
some
kind
of
investment
I.
Think
at
the
time
we
were
looking
at
at
least
I
was
thinking
ballpark
like
four
or
five
million.
J
The
mayor
came
back
with
an
idea
to
combine
budgets
from
several
parks,
and
the
number
I
remembered
at
the
time
was
around
14
million.
But
I
look
at
this
budget
here
and
now
it's
41
million.
Can
you
just
tell
us
the
the
if
I
remember
incorrectly
I
apologize,
but
can
you
just
tell
us
kind
of
the
progression
of
the
budget
and
then
I
have
one
more
question
after
that.
Y
So
our
bid,
our
bid,
was
put
out
there
for
that
and
the
progression
went
with
we
expanded
the
footprint.
So
when
we
looked
at
it
initially,
it
was
three
acres.
Y
Now
we're
looking
at
10
acres,
we
purchased
some
property
to
expand
it,
one
being
the
Pennysaver
we've
closed
streets,
so
basically
the
the
cost
can
go
with
the
expansion
from
three
to
ten
acres
and
including,
like
councilman
Goose,
said
making
it
inclusive
of
everyone
in
that
Community
were
taken
into
account,
which
is
why
we
have
the
public
input
on
what
needs
to
be
in
this
10
acre
campus.
J
And
can
you
tell
us
where
that,
where
that
41
million
is
coming
from
and
over
how
many
years.
J
And
I'll
ask
you
another
question:
while
he's
standing
up
you're
working
on
a
city-wide,
objective,
priority
plan
for
parks
and
so
I
think
everybody
who's
all
the
constituents
who've
been
asking
us,
why
is
my
Park
not
being
renovated?
J
Why
can't
we
do
certain
things
in
our
Parks
we've
been
saying
that
plan
is
coming
and
it'll
have
an
objective
analysis
to
say
this
one
hasn't
been
renovated
in
10
years
and
has
not
been
renovated
in
20
years,
so
we'll
be
able
to
look
at
it
regardless
of
politics
and
just
figure
out
how
to
how
to
prioritize.
How,
when
is
that
priority
list
coming
I'll.
Y
Y
We
didn't
want
to
get
their
input
and
then
just
publish
something
and
say
here
it
is
so
we
want
to
have
the
meetings
to
go
back
out
there,
we
being
the
consultant
to
tell
them
their
findings
and,
yes,
they
took
all
191
Parks,
including
our
recreation
centers,
and
it
broken
down
in
priority
lists,
and
then
it
listed
them
out
over
the
next
15
to
20
years,
and
it
tells
you
in
the
first
few
years.
What
is
the
priority?
Where
are
those
High
needs
at
and
you're
right?
Y
I
believe
in
the
next
two
months,
so
the
next
thing
is
to
meet
with
Dennis's
office
to
look
at
those
numbers,
and
then
it
will
come
back
to
you
and
to
the
community
before
they
take
the
draft
off.
When
you
have
a
final
document.
J
Yeah
that'll
be
very
helpful
like
on
roads,
people
ask
and
we
say
it's
a
Once
in
70
years
or
whatever
budget,
and
they
get
very
upset,
understandably,
because
if
their
roads
are
falling
apart
in
Parks,
I
am
hopeful
that
that
we
can
move
it
faster.
Knowing
the
limitation
budget,
sorry
Mr,
Rogero
you're
going
to
talk
about
the
budget,
it
did
it.
What
was
the
so
once
the
initial
the
bigger
footprint
was
decided.
Was
it
a
much
smaller
budget
and
then
it's
increased
since
then?
Yes,
initially.
U
As
Ms
Hill
said,
we
I
think
it
was
like
15
18
million
dollars,
but
not
only
has
the
scope
expanded,
but
the
footprint
expanded.
What
we
intend
to
offer
at
this
park
has
expanded.
Fortunately,
this
was
all
decided
prior
to
going
out
for
Debt
Service
last
year,
and
you
see
that
on
the
on
the
sheet
there
for
just
over
36
million
dollars,
so
fortunately
we
had
coalesced,
we
made
a
final
decision
and
that
was
The
Debt
Service
that
was
issued
under
non-advalorum
bonds.
Last
year
you
see
a
little
bit
above
that
in
2021.
U
We
also
issued
an
initial
Debt
Service
I,
believe
that
was
for
the
for
design
to
get
the
project
started.
But
the
overwhelming
amount
of
money
for
this
project
is
Debt
Service.
J
And
and
how
is
that
paid?
So
if
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong,
if
I
remember
correctly,
the
Park's
budget's
like
five
million
dollars
a
year,
does
that
mean
now
it'll
be
four
million
because
because
we're
spending
one
million
a
year
to
pay
this
debt
service
or
how
does
it
work.
U
I
Thank
you
very
much
question
I
I
seem
to
recall
this
had
an
all
abilities,
Park,
a
section
to
it
like
for
people
with
the
disabilities
or
oh.
Y
I
Anybody
I
I,
remember
hearing
that
we
of
course
had
the
New
Tampa
groundbreaking
a
couple
weeks
ago.
I
don't
know
if
I
don't
think
anyone
from
Council
was
there,
but
it
was
a
a
really
really
great
event
and
we
got
to
see
more
of
those
throughout
the
city
of
Tampa.
It's
great
to
see
that
for
East
Tampa
we
have
one
in
McFarland
Park
that
started
as
private
and
now
I
know.
I
The
city
does
a
lot
with
that
and,
of
course,
New
Tampa
and
East
Tampa,
and
that's
really
really
important,
so
I'd
love
to
see
them
and
also
motioned
a
couple
months
ago
to
have
the
CRA
look
throughout
CRA
areas
for
special
needs,
Parks
as
well.
So
that's
great
to
see.
So
that's
a
great
thing:
I
remember
our
first
day
on
city,
council,
councilman,
Goods,
I,
think
I
I,
don't
know
some
something
I
was
talking
talking
with
special
needs
and
councilman
Goods
mentioned
that
so
I'm
just
glad
to
see
that
happen.
Y
Deputy
Administrator,
Elise,
drumgo
and
I
will
be
back
in
a
couple
weeks
to
talk
about
the
CRA
and
the
funding
with
Ada
accessibility
for
parks.
O
Thank
you.
I
just
want
to
touch
on
a
little
bit
more
about
what
councilman
Carlson
was
saying
about
the
master
plan,
because
I
have
got
got
another
email
just
this
week,
saying
hey
this
was
supposed
to
be
six
months
ago,
and
then
that
was
followed
on
by
an
email
that
was
sent
six
months
prior
to
that.
So
when
we're
doing
this,
I
know
you're
going
to
come
back,
but
just
a
quick
little
detail
or
update
what
types
of
public
outreach
are
you
planning
to
do.
Just
just
brief,
doesn't
have
to
be.
N
Y
I
believe
in
the
next
the
end
of
February,
beginning
of
March,
is
when
they
will
have
the
Outreach
I
need
to
see
if
it's
in
person
a
lot
of
this
was
delayed
because
of
covid.
So
we
did
a
lot
of
virtual,
but
I
can
get
that
information
on
the
exact
dates
but
yeah
the
Outreach
will
be
coming
very
soon
in
the
next
month
month
and
a
half
they
will
see
the
information
they
will
see
the
PowerPoint
slides
the
entire
document
itself.
O
Great
and
I
would
highly
recommend
to
have
at
least
half
of
those
in
person.
I
just
would.
C
Y
Be
the
brothers
we've
come
before
talking
about
Villa
brothers.
We
are
under
construction.
Now
you
can
see
our
business
case.
The
improvements
to
make
made
to
tables
parks
are
an
investment
in
the
quality
of
life
of
our
citizens
and
sustainability
of
our
environment,
the
resiliency
of
the
community
and
adding
these
improvements.
Y
You
know
minimize,
adding
the
recreational
side
improvements
to
other
to
any
otherwise
minimizing
Improvement
Park
site
improvements
are
based
on
the
input
from
the
surrounding
community
and
the
Vela
family.
So
far
we
I
can
give
you
an
update.
I,
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
been
by
there
but
basketball
court
pickleball
court
when
I
say
heavily
used
that
pickleball
court
is
used
all
the
time
we
have
our
fitness
equipment.
That
is
in
there
right
now.
Y
Some
of
the
other
amenities
councilman
Carlson
I,
know
he
had
mentioned.
You
know
talk
about
the
minis
that
are
there
for
shelters,
two
dog
parks,
a
walking
trail
with
lights,
a
new
Playground,
open,
Green,
Space
area
and
again
the
pickleball
basketball
courts,
Ada
accessibility.
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
we
heard
a
lot
for
that
Community.
We
have
surrounding
parking
that
it
will
be
there,
and
so
those
are
a
few
of
the
amenities
that
are
there
and
the
benefits
really
talking
with
the
community
and
getting
feedback.
C
Councilman
mascaka.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
update,
I
was
at
Mrs
Villa's
house
earlier
this
week
and
I
don't
want
to
disappoint
her
I
know
we
are.
We
are
going
to
be
completing
this
and
and
I
know
it's
it's
been
a
long
time,
but
I'm
glad
that
you
know
I
drive
by
every
day
and
I
see
the
improvements.
But
again
you
know
thank
you
because
it's
been
a
long
time
coming
and
we
appreciate
it
and
I
know
that
you're
on
top
of
it
and
we've
communicated
with
you
many.
J
About
the
years
go
by
so
fast
like
seven
years
ago,
maybe
eight
years
ago
the
neighborhood
worked
with
the
city
on
a
big
master
plan,
and
then
it
was
it
was
before
you
were
director
right
now.
A
J
The
city
worked
on
a
big
master
plan
for
this
park
with
the
neighborhood
and
then
and
I.
Think
if
I
remember
correctly,
it
was
like
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
and
at
the
end
of
it
the
city
turned
them
and
said:
okay,
where
are
you
going
to
get
the
money
and
they
said
we
thought
you
were
going
to
pay
for
it
and
so
that
that
was
like
the
beginning
of
this
path
as
I.
Remember
it.
But
do
you
do
you
happen
to
have
that
that
original
plan
and
do
you?
No?
J
My
question
really
is
how
much
of
the
original
plan
have
we
implemented?
Obviously,
pickleball
wasn't
on
there
because
it's
become
something
popular
now,
but
it
do
you
have
any
idea
of
their
original
Vision
how
much
we're
going
to
be
implementing.
Y
C
Q
Q
If
I
remember,
you
had
troubles
in
the
beginning
with
the
restrooms
or
something
like
that
coming
in
time,
but
I'm
not
formulating
excuses,
but
to
try
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
in
the
advance.
Of
course,
there's
been
a
lot
of
things
that
were
added
from
the
original
plan.
The
original
plan
was
very
narrow
and
now
it's
much
greater
and
more
amenity
for
the
neighbors
and
I'm
happy
that
they're
going
to
get
what
they
deserve.
A
good
Park,
beautiful
Park,
where
they
can
be
proud
of.
Y
Y
So
the
improvements
there,
the
existing
storm
water,
Recreation
facilities
required
safety
and
operational
improvements
that
need
represented
the
need
presented,
opportunity
to
engage
with
the
community
to
make
desired,
comprehensive
improvements
to
the
park
and
expand
the
access
throughout
the
park.
Y
Q
I
can
just
go
back
in
history
and
remember
the
last
time
that
this
this
had
any
any
amount
of
money
put
into.
It
was
under
the
Greco
Administration
when
the
flooding
was
horrific.
I
know
it's
bad
sometimes,
but
it
was
horrific
and
we
did
something
about
it
and
we
did
the
the
center
there
and
things
happened
in
fact.
There's
a
plaque
on
the
wall.
Naming
all
six
council
members
notice,
I
said
six,
they
forgot
the
chairman
and
the
chairman
doesn't
want
his
name
put
on
it.
That
way
called
the
Unknown
Soldier.
Y
Right
next,
one
up
Gandy,
Park,
South
and
polonis
improvements.
These
are
the
parks
that
actually
were
closed
when
the
Selden
Expressway
used
it
as
a
staging
area,
so
they
complete
the
top
level.
Y
Some
of
the
improvements
you
can
see
on
your
on
your
map
include
kayak
and
canoe,
launch,
multiple
shelters
for
picnics,
open,
Green,
Space
area
fishing,
pier
and
a
walk-in
area
amongst
other
amenities,
but
our
goal
is
to
custom
Carlson's,
not
here,
but
down
in
his
district.
You
know
touching
down
there
listening
to
the
community,
so
Community
engagement
has
already
been
done.
O
C
C
C
Y
C
X
Let's
see
a
win
administrative
neighborhood
and
Community
Affairs
Council
your
request,
you
ask
us
to
consider
putting
a
Veterans
Memorial
in
each
Council
District.
So
this
is
the
first
of
those
memorials
at
Jim,
Walter
Park.
We
are
currently
in
the
design
and
permitting
of
the
memorial
we
have
allocated
for
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
to
for
this
Memorial.
Just
with
this
park
and
in
the
following
years,
we
will
have
allocated
a
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
address
to
the
memorials
and
the
other
parks.
I
Yeah
and
thank
you
for
that,
and
it's
funny
because
I
I'll
be
honest:
I
actually
forgot
to
make
that
motion.
I
checked
it
up
and
I.
Did
it
and
I
don't
mean
this
by
the
way
in
terms
of
oh,
my
gosh,
it's
taking
you
so
long.
I
Things
take
time
and
I'm
very
understanding
of
that
I
think
we
all
are
but
back
in
December
of
2020-
and
this
is
great
I
mean
especially
to
see
a
memorial
for
African-American
veterans,
many
many
of
whom
served
during
Jim
Crow
I
mean
a
lot
of
people.
Don't
know
that
you
know
Robert
Saunders,
who
took
over
the
NAACP
after
the
murder
of
Harry
team.
Harriet
Moore
was
a
World
War
II
veteran
here
in
Tampa
and
a
lot
of
folks
Delano
Stewart
served
in
uniform,
Air
Force.
I
If
I
recall,
he
did
during
I
think
just
after
the
Korean
War
era,
if
I
recall,
but
but
yeah
I
know
this.
This
is
wonderful.
So
all
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
make
a
motion
and
I'm
thrilled
to
see
this.
This
one
over
at
Jim,
Walters
I,
think
that's
great
is.
I
D
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
Reggie
Bolton,
who
we
met
for
a
long
time
for
something
like
this
specifically
because
he's
in
the
Carver
City
Lincoln,
Gardens
neighborhood,
and
when
we
sat
down
together
with
Parks
and
Rec,
and
we
first
saw
this
initial
design.
We
were
all
blown
away.
He
was
very,
very
happy,
and
this
is
going
to
be
wonderful
in
this
historic
neighborhood
in
Tampa
to
honor
all
the
veterans
going
back
to
World,
War,
II
and
and
and
moving
forward.
D
A
L
Thank
you,
council
members
for
your
time
this
morning.
Our
our
intention,
unless
we
hear
otherwise
is
to
starting
in
May,
have
a
biannual
report
for
you.
We
can
craft
that,
certainly
with
the
format
that
we
talked
about
today,
we
can
craft
that
within
the
time
frame,
you
would
like
this
to
occur
going
forward.
L
L
I
I
would
like
to
offer
that
we'd
like
to
give
this
biennial
report
a
chance
to
see
if
it
satisfies
what
you
believe
is
the
need
for
more
transparency,
engagement,
information
and
so
forth,
and
if
we
could
give
that
a
chance
to
see
whether
or
not
a
request
for
public
hearings
for
a
certain
dollar
amount
would
still
be
something
that's
needed,
or
if
this
process
could
be
a
good
substitute
for
that
in
terms
of
what
you're
interested
in
doing
so.
J
Yeah,
thank
you.
This
is
exactly
the
kind
of
detail
and
transparency.
I
appreciate
everybody
taking
the
time
to
to
go
through
all
this.
You
know
for
us,
but
also
for
the
public.
So
this
is
exactly
the
kind
of
thing
I
think
we
should
be
doing.
Could
I
ask
Mr
O'hara
a
question
real
fast
folks.
Will
you
know
folks
will
always
ask
us
well?
Why
can't
we
do
my
Parker?
J
Why
can't
we
do
our
my
road
and
you
know
wherever
you
live
and
wherever
you
go,
your
that
area
is
the
most
important
in
the
city.
So
I
just
want
to
ask
you:
how
do
you
figure
out
the
budget
for
capital
projects
each
year?
Is
it
based
on
revenue
or
or
retiring
debt
or
just
refinancing?
How
do
you
figure
out
what
that
number
is,
and,
and
do
you
know
what
the
the
additional
incremental
number
will
be
for
next
year?
We.
U
Don't
I'll
answer
the
the
last
question.
First,
we
don't
know
what
the
incremental
number
will
be
or
next
year
yet,
but
we're
already
working
it.
Of
course,
we'll
come
to
council
with
that.
In
answer
to
your
first
questions,
it's
all
of
those
things
you
know
we
take
Community
input,
whether
it's
from
mayor,
whether
it's
from
the
team,
whether
it's
from
city
council
and
we
look
forward
for
that
five
years.
U
City
council
reviews
it
every
single
year
have
priorities
changed,
for
instance,
over
the
year,
because
we've
got
another
five
years
coming
up,
have
have
the
revenue
issues
changed
for
good
or
for
worse
over
the
past
year
again,
when
we
adopted
this
Capital
Improvements
program,
it's
already
been
a
half
year
and
in
another
half
year,
we'll
we'll
be
doing
it
again.
So
it
really
is
a
process,
but
we
look
at
all
those
things.
It
really
is.
It
really
is
dynamic.
You've
gotta
you've
got
to
plant
the
dart
someplace,
but
it
really
is
dynamic.
J
Last
comment
for
Miss
Duncan,
the
besides
the
public
engagement
on
each
project.
J
I
hope
that
the
prioritization
of
these
is
a
is
a
discussion
between
city
council,
the
mayor's
office
and
your
department,
but
also
we
need
I
think
we
need
to
go
to
the
public
specifically
for
prioritization
of
the
overall
ideas
and
budget,
and
we
know
that
there's
a
Mobility
plan
underway
there's
a
a
Parks
plantover
way
that
will
I
it's
supposed
they're,
both
supposed
to
have
objective
prioritization.
And
so,
if
we
have
objective
prioritization,
then
we
can
go
back
to
the
public
and
say
yeah.
Your
part.
J
Your
road
needs
to
be
done,
but
the
other
road
is
70
years
old
and
yours
is
40
years
old,
and
so
we
got
to
do
the
70
year
old
one
first,
but
it
would
help
to
to
to
get
the
buckets
a
priority
from
the
public,
not
just
from
a
poll
but
for
from
actually
having
conversations
and
then
and
then
also
help
them
look
at
things
and
I.
Think
part
of
that
is,
you
know,
there's
some
tabletop
discussions
that
you
can
do
with
people
about.
You
know
if
you
had
a
hundred
dollars.
J
How
would
you,
how
would
you
spend
it
like
kind
of
like
the
discussion
we
had
on
the
streetcar
versus
repairing
roads
a
little
while
ago,
but
the
same
thing
here
with
with
Parks
and
and
the
other
priorities
just
to
give
some
context
to
not
only
what
buckets
our
priority?
What
projects
are
are
priority
under
those
buckets,
but
then
how
kind
of
relatively
how
much
people
would
want
to
spend
on
them?
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
parallel
public
engagement
process.
Thank
you.
Thank.
L
L
As
we
say,
you
know
giving
projects
throughout
the
whole
city,
as
well
as
with
the
Public's
interests
and
demands
are
so
it's
it's
a
little
bit
science
a
little
bit
art
in
terms
of
making
sure
it's
it's
appropriate
for
what
the
requests
are
for,
what
the
needs
are
and
for
what
the
data
shows
and
then
with
the
money.
On
top
of
that
to
further
challenge
us
on
how
we
come
up
with
our
plans.
U
And
I'm
sorry
Mr
chair,
if
I
could
amend
my
response
to
to
councilman
Carlson,
seeing
Ms
Ms
pointer
here,
reminding
me,
let's
not
forget
about
the
council
citizens
budget
advisory
committee
again,
we'll
also
intake
their
meeting
now.
They'll
continue
to
meet
for
the
next
few
months
and
and
we'll
take
input
about
not
only
prioritizations
but
but
Community
preferences
from
them.
Also.
Thank
you.
F
Good
morning,
Council
Stephanie
Poynter
well,
first
of
all,
let's
go
back
to
number
two
and
talk
about
impulse.
Buying
I,
don't
impulse
buy,
do
you
all
win
pulse,
buy
I,
don't
go
buy
houses
and
I,
don't
go
buy
cars
with
no
thought
process
before
no
planning
before
it
and
when
stuff
comes
before
city
council
only
one
time
to
spend
20
plus
million
dollars,
which
I
didn't
hear
a
whole
lot
of
conversation
about
for
the
last
hours
worth
of
testimony,
I
I,
think
I.
F
Think
City
councils
should
think
about
it
in
between
the
first
and
second
hearing,
I
think
that
totally
makes
sense,
I,
don't
like
I
said
and
when
you
do
make
impulse
purchases
such
as
Hannah
Street.
You
end
up
with
less
than
a
year
down
the
road.
We've
got
a
13
increase
on
that
project
after
we
made
an
impulse
purchase.
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
this
PowerPoint
that
was
presented
today
is
not
insire.
F
Otherwise,
you
know
you
see
Sandy
Sanchez
here,
but
the
the
city
council
agenda
comes
out
on
the
Friday
before
so
we
have
six
days
to
prepare,
for
whatever
is
going
to
be
on
the
agenda
during
that
six
days.
If
the
documents
are
not
insire,
then
the
city,
the
public,
the
people
who
pay
the
taxes
that
they're
spending
their
money
do
not
have
the
opportunity
to
review
this
and
think
about
it
and
talk
about
it
and
make
recommendations
to
their
city.
F
Council
I
had
no
idea
that
this
presentation
was
coming
today
because
had
I
I
would
have
reviewed
it
and
done
a
little
bit
better
job,
but
impulse
buys
always
cost
you
in
the
long
run
via
interest
via
whatever
Source
I
would
also
like
to
point
out
that
we
talked
about
Paloma
Park
in
South,
Tampa,
guess
what
the
city
isn't
paying
for
that
Thea
paid
for
it.
That
was
a
gift
from
Thea
to
pay
to
offset
the
the
inconvenience
of
the
Gandy
flyover.
So,
let's
not,
let's
not
act
like
that.
F
Just
came
out
as
somewhere
and
somebody
was
given
a
gift
to
SOG
I'd,
also
like
to
point
out
that
Miss
Duncan
said
that
they
are
in
neighborhood
meetings
every
day
of
the
week.
F
R
R
Street
was
just
absolute
embarrassment,
pure
insult
to
should
be
to
you
all,
as
well
as
to
Citizens,
which
is
why
I'm
asking
that
you
support
the
two
I
feel
like
it
needs
to
come
before
you
all
twice
and
definitely
have
the
opportunity
to
have
public
input,
because,
as
a
citizen
and
I've
sat
through
at
least
the
process
whereby
the
you
know
for
not
Hannah
street
but
for
Fair
Oaks
or
that
project
I
saw
one
of
the
of
the
awarded
vendor
skanska
their
piece
of
community
engagement,
bringing
it
before
them.
R
Their
idea
of
that
was
to
go
to
one
of
the
members
of
Jazzy
seniors
and
ask
three
questions.
Not
realizing
the
Jazzy
senior
is
in
the
room
and
they
didn't
even
know
who
she
was.
You
know
why,
because
they
didn't
contact
Jazzy
seniors,
they
wouldn't
to
a
member
of
their
idea
of
community
engagement,
and
the
actual
Community
is
two
different
things.
So,
actually,
advertising
information
ahead
of
time
gives
the
public
the
opportunity
to
come
here
in
between
the
two,
in
addition
to
whatever
they
do
as
their
process
of
community
engagement.
R
What
I'm
pointing
out
is
there's
been
no
flyer,
there's
been
not
one
piece
of
literature
to
prepare
the
people
to
know
that
there's
going
to
be
a
meeting
about
this
project
in
your
community
there's
a
disconnect
in
one
meeting,
one
opportunity
coming
before
you
and
oops
100
million
dollar
budget
or
oops
100
million
dollars
rubber
stamp
is
not
acceptable.
The
public
deserves
better
than
that.
We
need
to,
and
I
asked
you
to
sign
off
on
that
today.
Thank
you.
H
Council
just
a
reminder,
because
I
I've
heard
the
speakers
talk
about
first
and
second
reading.
I
just
want
to
remind
the
public-
and
certainly
Council
knows
this-
that
what
you
have
with
regard
to
contracts
come
to
you
in
the
form
of
a
resolution,
and
they
normally
appear
on
the
consent
docket,
and
there
is
a
policy
of
city
council
that
the
administration
abides
by
that
items
over
I.
H
Believe
it's
three
million
dollars
comes
to
you
as
a
staff
report,
so
there's
some
sort
of
a
presentation
attached
to
it,
but
it
is
something
that
takes
no
reading
frankly,
moving
the
resolution
one
time
before
it
takes
effect
and
once
let's
say
a
contract
and
Council
approves
it
and
the
recipient
is
notified
of
council's
decision.
It's
really
out
of
council's
hands.
H
By
that
point,
there
is
no
motion
to
reconsider
a
contract
once
you
pass
it
by
resolution,
because
there's
no
opportunity
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
for
Council,
certainly
and
the
public
should
be
aware
that
when
you
talk
about
where
it
says
two
or
more
discussions,
this
is
not
an
ordinance
that
requires
two
public
hearings
under
Florida
law
or
excuse
me.
One
excuse
me
two
readings
in
one
public
hearing,
councilman.
C
J
Yeah
and
the
the
purpose
of
number
eight
is
to
ask
for
a
process
by
which
we
would
have
two
public
hearings
on
contracts
over
20
million
dollars.
So
the
and
and
one
example
was
Hannah
Avenue.
We
we
passed
it.
We
were
all
trying
to
be
good
partners
with
the
mayor
and-
and
this
is
one
of
her
Legacy
projects,
so
we
approved
it
and
then
a
week
or
two
later,
somebody
came
to
public
comment
and
told
us.
It
had
not
been
put
out
for
a
bit.
J
So
then
we
tried
to
put
on
pause
or
cancel
it,
and
we
were
told
by
legal.
We
couldn't
and,
as
you
just
said,
it
was
too
late
by
then,
and
that's
just
one
example.
But
the
idea
here
is
that
we
would
give
two
chances
for
the
public
to
hear
something.
We'd
put
a
couple
weeks
in
between
them
and
we
would.
It
would
give
us
a
more
time
to
look
at
it,
give
us
more
time
to
hear
public
input
and
then
and
then
we
would
approve
it.
J
It's
it's
really
a
a
safeguard,
it's
what
we
do
on
land
use
issues
and
we're
not
required
by
any
law
to
do
it.
I
suggest
we
do
this
for
transparency
and
to
make
sure
there's
that
we
have
a
second
chance.
It
could
be
that
the
second
time
nobody
will
discuss
it.
Nothing
will
be
it'll,
just
be
a
quick
vote,
but
but
at
least
we'll
give
it
two
different
chances,
and
it's
only.
My
proposal
is
only
above
20
million,
which
is
not
that
many
contracts.
Thank
you.
T
I,
don't
think
they're
reporting,
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing:
land
use
the
land
use
hearings,
you
have
are
rezonings
and
they're
done
by
ordinance
and
they
are
governed
by
Florida
law
and
you
do
have
to
have
two
public
hearings
on
those
items,
so
that's
mandated
by
Florida
law.
So
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
J
For
you,
that's
why
I
said
that,
unlike
land
use
issue,
this
we're
not
mandated
by
law
to
to
review
to
to
hear
contract
reviews
twice
and
that's
why,
even
though
Florida
law
does
not
require
it,
I
think
we
should
put
in
an
ordinance
that
that
that
says
that
that
we
will
hear
them
twice
just
to
make
sure
that
that
we
hear
from
the
public
fully.