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They've
agreed
to
provide
us
the
results
of
that
report,
and
then
we
can
take
next
steps
from
there
once
we
determine
what
those
results
are
also
I
want
you
to
be
aware
that
the
city
parks
and
recreation
department
is
looking
at
the
issue
and
the
plan
is
to
increase
some
of
our
regulations
internally
through
County
policy
or
through
City
policy.
So
the
key
there
is
that
City
cemeteries
will
be
protected
consistent
with
what
the
previous
request
of
council
was,
which
is
to
prohibit
parking
and
to
prohibit
loading.
I.
E
E
And
finally,
if
I
can
just
an
update
that
the
state
law
is
being
updated
right
now
and
that's
going
to
be
good,
there's
going
to
be
a
new
program,
it's
going
to
provide
extra
protections
for
abandoned
cemeteries,
and
particularly
most
importantly
for
us
here-
is
it's
going
to
provide
grant
opportunities
for
the
city
to
receive
grants
to
help
restore
and
maintain
abandoned
cemeteries.
So
that's
just
a
quick
update
on
where
we
are
right
now
and
I'm
available
for
any
questions.
Well,.
E
E
We're
working
when
I
say
we
are
Administration,
is
working
on
trying
to
track
down
and
negotiate
an
agreement
with
the
owners
of
the
30th
and
Sly.
You
know:
that's
the
smaller
Cemetery,
all
right,
so
they're
working
on
on
tracking
that
down
and
we'll
try
to
get
the
same
agreement.
We
have
with
the
Italian
Club,
which
is
you
go
ahead
or
you
just
go
ahead
and
do
the
GPR
or
allow
us
to
move
forward
and
do
the
GPR
and
we'll
get
the
results
and
determine
what's
under
the
ground.
F
E
F
E
What
we
we
had
to
look
into
and
see
what
the
specific
parameters
of
the
robo
cemetery
is
and
the
ownership
on
that,
because
you're
right
there
is
a
large
lot,
that's
next
door
to
it
and
we
have
to
determine
who
the
owner
of
that
is
and
then
enter
in
the
same
negotiations.
We're
talking
about
that.
We
did
with
the
Italian
Club
in
order
to
get
the
GPR
same.
F
F
G
E
G
And
are
we
could
we
and
maybe
we'll
we'll
you
know
cross
that
bridge
whenever
it
happens,
but
and
I'm
not
an
expert
on
these
scans
at
all,
but
I
mean
I've.
You
know
whenever
you
deal
with
experts
on
on
things,
there's
different
ways
to
do
things:
Etc,
so
we'll
cross
that
bridge
I,
guess
whenever
it
comes
and
and
what
not
one
thing
I
would
ask
you
to
do.
G
Just
wait
on
the
report
and
and
and
see
what
it
happens
and
and
and
and
see
where
it
goes
and
I'm
sure
that
this
will
return
to
us
and
if
I
know,
councilman
Goose
brought
this
forward.
If
you
wanted
to
have
this
Return
To
Us,
whenever
like
when,
are
we
expecting
the
report
again?
I
know
you
said
that
the.
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E
D
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E
D
C
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C
I
Afternoon,
Andrea
Zalman,
City
attorney.
This
is
the
request
for
the
resolution
setting
forth
the
process
by
which
the
city
would
advise
the
individual
members
of
city
council.
Should
the
city,
anyone
in
the
city
receive
notice
that
the
city
is
under
investigations
for
violation
of
civil
rights
statutes,
it's
pretty
straightforward.
It's
what
we
discussed
when
this
motion
was
made.
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
I
know
when
councilman
Carlson
originally
made
the
motion.
I
I
The
motion
reference
criminal
investigations
and,
while
I'm
no
subject
matter,
expert
on
those
what
I
have
come
to
learn
is
basically
you're
not
notified
when
you're
under
investigation
for
violation
of
criminal
laws.
Typically,
so
it
really
wouldn't
be
necessary
or
realistic
to
have
a
process
for
that,
because
it's
so
incredibly
unlikely
that
the
city
as
an
entity
would
be
notified
that
it
was
being
investigated
for
violation
of
crimes.
I'm
not
even
sure
how
a
city
is
an
entity
could
commit
a
crime,
but
that's
another
issue.
I
D
J
Just
not
a
question
I
just
want
to
say.
Thank
you
again.
This
is
like
the
sixth
time
that
that
you're,
you
and
your
department
have
partnered
with
us
to
get
something
done
and
bring
it
in
for
a
landing.
So
I
want
to
thank
you
and
your
team
and
I'm
happy
to
make
a
motion
to
do
anything.
Do
we
need
to
read
it
or
move
the
rest,
I'd.
I
Like
to
move
the
resolution,
thank
you
and
off
topic,
but
earlier
today,
Nicole
Travis
mentioned
something
about
a
press
conference
at
Tampa,
hope
and
I
asked
and
I
just
wanted
to
assure
Council,
because
I
know
this
is
a
sensitive
topic.
The
press
conference
was
not
organized
by
the
city
of
Tampa.
It
was
organized
by
Tampa
hope
they
did
it
for
the
date
and
time
that
worked
best
for
their
schedule.
The
city
didn't
have
control
over
that.
So
I
did
ask
just
want
to
make
sure
to
make
you
all
aware
of
that.
Thank
you
once.
D
K
Good
afternoon
city
council,
Martin
Shelby
city
council
attorney
I'm
here
on
item
number
80.
file,
number
cm-80251
to
report
on
a
process
to
inform
city
council
as
to
when
there
is
a
request
for
proposal.
A
request
for
qualifications
earlier
in
the
RFP
process
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
speak
with
the
city
attorney
and
the
chief
of
staff
and
I
also
had
very
interesting
and
informative
conversations
with
both
Greg
Spearman
and
purchasing
and
with
Brad
Baird
in
contract
Administration.
K
And
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
I
passed
out
some
slides
and
just
talked
to
you
about
the
process.
It's
interesting.
The
council
had
a
good
discussion
today
during
administrative
update
regarding
the
CIP
and
a
lot
of
what
is
planning
for
construction
is
contained
within
the
CIP,
and
that
is
a
programmed
Five-Year
Plan.
K
So
when
Council
does
have
those
briefings
and
those
workshops
and
the
discussion
during
the
charter,
that
is
very
much
giving
you
the
road
map
of
what
is
forthcoming.
And,
of
course,
when
you
have
these
updates,
you're
being
told,
perhaps
of
the
processes
that
are
underway,
the
projects
that
are
underway.
But
it's
also
an
opportunity
to
learn.
What
is
forthcoming,
so
you
will
have
advanced
notice
of
where
the
city
is
and
again
a
CIP
is
a
a
living
document.
K
So,
as
things
are
supposed
to
move
up
each
year,
sometimes
situations
change
the
economy,
changes,
priorities,
change
and
the
CIP
somewhat
changes.
So
you
have
the
opportunity
to
also
inquire
of
changes
from,
let's
say
one
year's
CIP
to
the
next
year
to
be
able
to
get
a
sense
of
what
priorities
if
any,
are
changing
within
the
city.
K
Now
there
are
really
some
really
good
resources
and
I'm,
not
saying
this
just
for
the
benefit
of
the
city
council,
because
I'm
saying
this
for
the
benefit
of
the
public
too,
that
the
city's
website
contains
a
lot
of
information
that
is
all
useful
and
what
I'm
going
to
be
sharing
with
you
and
I've
prepared
some
slides
all
from
the
city's
website,
the
city's
web
page-
and
this
is
not
the
intranet-
this
is
not
within
the
city.
This
is
available
to
the
public
at.
K
Tampagov.Tampa.Gov
Tampa
gov.gov,
so
I
just
want
to
put
this
down
just
to
show
you
some
of
the
sources
where
you
and
members
of
the
public
can
hear
about
things
before
they
end
up
on
the
consent
docket
or
on
the
staff
reports
for
the
approval
of
a
contract.
This
is
a
very
interesting
interactive
site
and
all
you
have
to
do
to
get
to
this
is
in
the
search
bar
you
put
in
CIP
and
it'll.
K
Take
you
right
there,
and
this
is
the
capital
Improvement
projects
viewer
and
what
it
does
is
it
gives
you
information
as
to
specific
projects.
It
also
breaks
it
down
to
many
different
funding
sources.
It
breaks
it
down
into
districts,
it
breaks
it
down
into
neighborhoods
and
you
can
actually
see
what's
being
proposed
and
what's
being
underway,
and
this
is
updated
regularly.
I
believe
this
is
updated
on
a
monthly
basis.
K
One
of
the
interesting
things
here
is
that
if
the
public
is
interested,
that
whole
presentation
by
the
way
is
available
on
this
website,
just
by
putting
in
CIP
in
the
search
bar-
and
it
takes
you
to
what
the
presentation
was
made
on
January
26th-
you
have
the
PowerPoint
there.
So
the
public
can
look
at
that
and
see
what
the
administration
has
proposed
and
also
there's
an
excellent
about
a
three-minute
video
that
actually
instructs
you
on
how
to
use
the
the
CIP
viewer.
K
K
It's
a
drop
down.
It's
at
the
right
to
the
to
the
left
of
the
word
jobs
at
the
far
right
corner
and
you
drop
down
on
the
word
government
and
you
go
to
departments
and
when
you
go
to
the
Departments
it'll
list,
all
the
Departments
of
the
city,
you
scroll
down
to
contract
Administration,
and
it
takes
you
to
their
to
their
landing
page,
and
there
are
some
very
useful
links
that
will
inform
you
about
what
is
happening
with
regard
to
contract
Administration.
K
Now
the
city
has
the
department
that
is
called
contract
Administration
and
that
is
really
for
capital
projects.
Obviously,
the
administration
of
the
contracts,
and
it's
it's
those
things
that
are
how
do
they
put
it
vertical
or
in
the
ground
things
that
are
built
and
what's
interesting.
There
is
that
you
have
links
to
the
left
that
are
useful.
One
of
those
is
a
link
that
we'll
get
to
in
a
minute
where
it
just
says,
purchasing
Biz
and
it
takes
you
to
purchasing.
K
K
It's
an
involved
process,
so
I
learned
to
the
point
where
it
gets
to
be
released
or
broadcast
and
from
the
time
that
is
released
and
broadcast.
There's
a
certain
cone
of
silence
as
to
Communications
about
being
able
to
discuss
these
now.
Obviously
U.S
city,
council
members.
If
you
see
this
something
that
has
your
interest,
you
certainly
have
the
ability
and
the
opportunity
and
are
encouraged
to
pick
up
the
phone
and
talk
to
the
administrator
or
the
department
heads
to
get
your
questions
answered.
K
If
it's
something
that
you
think
needs
to
be
brought
to
city
council,
you
certainly
have
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
But
what's
interesting
is
it
tells
you?
The
department,
but
it
also
tells
you
about
the
estimated
RFQ
or
bid
advertising
month,
and
you
could
see
how
this
is
working
forward
and
goes
down
the
list.
Obviously
some
things
are
to
be
determined.
Now,
if
I
go
to
page
two
here,
you
will
see
that
there
are
some
things
set
forth
in
red
and
it
tells
you
some
things
are
delayed.
K
Some
things
have
a
date
and
some
things
have
to
be
determined
now
again,
if
there's
anything
that
interests
you
as
a
council,
member
or
a
constituent,
that's
brought
to
your
attention
when
you
see
that-
and
you
don't
fully
have
the
depth
of
knowledge
of
What.
That
particular
project
is,
is
something
that
you
can
drill
down
talking
to
the
department
and
get
the
additional
information
that
that
can
help
you
be
prepared
for
these
things
coming
forth
in
advance.
So
using
tools
like
this
Council
can
keep
itself
informed
about
the
future
projects.
K
And
lastly,
if
I
were
to
click
the
department
that
says
purchasing
or
if
I
would
have
clicked
the
quick
link
on
the
contract,
Administration
page,
it
would
take
me
here
likewise,
if
you
notice
on
this,
you
could
actually
have
a
quick
link.
Let
me
make
this
a
little
bit
bigger
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
K
K
Star
is
a
platform
that
you
can
get
to
information,
but
in
order
to
drill
down
further,
as
it's
presently
set
up
and
for
many
reasons,
security
reasons
being
one
of
them
and
you
cannot
actually
get
to
necessarily
the
documents
that
way
unless
you
are
registered
as
a
demand
star
user
now,
maybe
it
can
be
set
up.
I
believe
that
there
is
a
a
platform
called
get
all
that
through
internally.
They
may
be
able
to
get
that
and
set
that
up
for
Council,
if
that's
council's
interest,
to
want
to
be
able
to
drill
down.
K
Sometimes
it
takes
a
little
bit
more
to
drill
down
and
if
you
need
to
be
able
to
get
to
it
by
registering
for
direct
demand
star-
and
it's
council's
pleasure
to
want
to
have
access
to
that,
Council
can
work
with
the
Department
with
the
administration
to
be
able
to
provide
you
additional
information.
So
long
story
short.
K
There
is
information
on
the
city's
website
to
both
Council
and
to
the
public
to
be
able
to
tell
what's
forthcoming.
So
you
have
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
be
apprised
of
information
before
it
shows
up
on
the
consent
doctor
before
it
shows
up
on
the
staff
reports
and
also,
if
you
wish
to
have
additional
information
or
you
have
additional
questions.
I
know
we're
we're
running
a
little
bit
late
and
I.
Don't
want
to
take
up
any
more
of
time,
but
a
suggestion
to
come
up
that
in
the
future.
K
F
Well,
David
Shelby
was
doing
some
of
the
legwork.
You
know
a
lot
of
questions.
Let
me
come
up
about
contracts
this
last
four
years
of
these
rfps
and
that's
why
I
brought
up
How
would
how
it
how
it,
how
how's
it
how's
it
mandated?
How
is
it
written?
How
is
it
come
before
Council
beforehand,
before
sending
it
out?
So
maybe
going
forward
this
Council,
where
the
council
maybe
want
to
do
a
workshop,
so
councilman
is
aware
of
how
that
process
actually
works.
F
J
The
community
has
a
lot
of
concerns
about
contract
Administration
in
particular,
and
the
the
high
number
of
no
bid
contracts
in
we've
had
presentations
on
it
two
or
three
times,
and
the
the
presentations
end
up
being
explaining
the
difference
between
sole
source
and
single
bid
contracts
versus
talking
to
us
about
how
to
end
them.
The
last
time
I
counted
a
few
weeks
ago,
we
had
still
about
15
single
bit
contracts,
and
you.
J
Where
a
one
vendor
is
the
only
one
that
makes
a
certain
chemical
and
we
can
only
buy
from
them,
but
when
we
started
four
years
ago,
there
was
a
purchase
of
HD
cameras
for
the
for
the
police
helicopters
and
the
criteria
was
set
for
30
miles
and
there
was
a
vendor
in
Orlando
that
was
85
miles
away
and
they
didn't
qualify,
but
the
vendor
that
did
qualify.
It
was
exactly
30
miles
away
and
that's
the
kind
of
thing
that
we
need
to
end.
J
J
Some
rfps
are
pushed
out,
and
some
aren't
I
think
that
this
happened
more
in
the
last
Administration
than
this
one
I
mean
in
six
years
ago,
or
so
they're
a
piece
of
property
that
sold
and
then
and
then
not
the
short
time
after
developers,
flipped
it
for
50
or
100
more
and
so
that's
in
real
estate.
But
we
we
need
to
to
focus
on
all
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
rfps
are
open.
J
But
my
my
big
concern
related
to
this
is
I
mean
the
competitiveness
is
a
huge
concern,
but
the
second
concern
is:
is
that
city
council
needs
to
know
at
the
very
least
when
a
big
RFP
is
awarded
and
the
same
thing.
With
these
other
things
we
have
maybe
over
20
million
or
over
50
million,
but
an
example.
The
Rome
yard
project
was
awarded
staff
had
some
kind
of
process
that
was
awarded.
J
There
was
a
press
conference
to
say
that
it
was
awarded
the
first
time
it
was
presented
at
city
council
was
a
year
later
when
the
contract
was
had
been
negotiated.
There
was
no
opportunity
for
us
to
weigh
in
at
all
and
I
I
would
suggest
that
it
at
the
very
least
contracts
over
50
million,
when
the
RFP
is
awarded.
That
staff
would
come.
Explain
it
to
us,
because
we're
going
to
get
questions
from
the
public
that
one
there
was
a
lot
of
media
coverage.
J
We
got
questions
of
the
public,
we
didn't
know
how
to
answer
anything
sure
we
could
talk
to
staff
individually,
but
it
would
be
better
to
have
transparency
and
and
how
to
discuss
it.
Maybe
the
threshold
is
20
million
instead
of
50
I
don't
know,
but
the
other
thing
is
on
big
rfps
that
are
complicated.
J
F
Calls
because
sometimes
you
look
at
some
of
these
rfps.
It
seems
like
it's
driven
for
a
certain
particular
person
to
get
the
contract
and
that's
the
problem.
I
have
and
that's
the
problem.
The
community
is
saying
that
when
they're
written,
we
don't
know
Tilly
the
after
effect,
and
it's
like
we're
the
cleanup
guys
to
ask
questions
after
the
fact
versus
US
seeing
up
front.
What
did
you
just
put
out
to
the
public
or
how
was
how
was
this
contract
curtailed
to
make
sure
it's
fair
for
everyone
to
be
able
to
bid
on
it?
F
K
It's
it
is,
it
is
a.
It
is
a
more
complicated
longer
process
than
as
a
matter
of
fact
it
was.
It
was
for
me
also
a
learning
experience
about
how
the
organization
does
it.
Of
course,
in
the
framework
that
we
have
is
under
the
chart
of
the
mayor
negotiates
contracts,
the
mayor
is
responsible
for
that.
K
F
So
again,
even
though
they
can
negotiate,
I
still
think
there's
a
process
in
it
before
it
even
gets
to
us
even
talking
about
approving
it.
For
us
to
be
able
to
look
and
see
what's
in
there,
because
it
may
be
conversation
to
tell
the
administration
take
that
back.
It
needs
to
be
negotiated
in
a
different
way
and.
K
That
is
a
discussion
that
is
a
discussion
that
we
can
have
with
the
administration.
That
is
a
concern
because
there's
also
the
thing
is
because
I
believe
there's
a
comment
before
during
and
after
the
RFP,
but
but
before
the
RFP,
there
is
usually
a
a
pre-bid
meeting
or
a
a
a
a
meeting,
that's
accessible
that
people
can
find
out
through
the
demand
star
or
through
the
website
of
of
a
before
it's
broadcast,
and
then
maybe
Marcy
can
help
about
the
process.
But
my
understanding
is
that
that
once
an
RFP
is
is
sent
out.
K
There
are
certain
parameters
in
terms
of
negotiation.
It's
been,
it's
meant
to
be
ideally,
and
of
course,
A
lot
of
it
is
governed
by
the
CCNA
which
you've
heard
about
it's
governed
by
by
State
Statute
about
the
process,
for
let's
say,
Architects,
the,
like
and
and
other
professionals,
but
with
regard
to
creating
a
a
means
to
be
able
to
change
an
RFP
and
RFQ.
K
So
you
ask
a
very
good
question:
I
understand
council's
concerns,
and-
and
you
hear
those
from
your
constituents
and
if
that's
a
a
question
that
needs
to
be
discussed
further,
then
I
would
suggest
that
Council
either
schedule
a
workshop
somewhere
down
the
line
or
we
can
ask
for
a
staff
report
or
we
can
talk.
I
can
continue
the
dialogue
with
the
with
the
administration.
K
So
I
understand
what
council's
concern
is:
I,
don't
know
how
best
to
recommend
to
address
that,
except
for
the
fact
that,
once
you
spend
time
learning
of
what
the
process
is
and
then
you
can
learn
about
where,
along
the
Route,
the
line,
you
can
insert
councils
opportunity
for
input,
then
you
can
actually
take
more
effective
action.
One
of
the
things
that
you
can
do
is
again
with
regard
particularly
to
the
CIP
is
to
find
out
what's
in
the
pipeline,
what's
going
to
be
forthcoming
and
what
then
is
the
process?
K
F
A
F
K
I,
so
what
you're
looking
for
me
to
do,
then,
is
to
do
a
comparison
about
how
similarly
situated
cities
in
Florida,
let's
say
dealing
with
these
issues,
address
the
same
kind
of
concerns
and
particularly
with
us
I
see
a
strong
mayor
form
of
government
I,
don't
use
that
term.
I
use
the
term
of
an
elected
mayor
form
of
government.
K
D
H
Thank
you
Mr
chairman
Mr
Shelby.
Yes,
the
references
that
were
made
I
I'm
just
talking
is
that
John
Q,
public
and
I
see
ads
and
the
same
theater
Tampa,
Bay
Times
on
Wednesdays
and
Sundays.
That's
the
only
two
days
they
print
I,
don't
do
the
others,
but
I
think
you're
doing
Monday.
The
rest
of
the
days
are
due
on
on
the
computers
and
so
forth,
but.
H
That
says,
City
of
Tampa
or
Hillsborough
County
or
St,
Pete
or
Clearwater
and
Those
ads
I
guess
are
asking
people
that
the
city
is
those
the
city.
This
city
and
other
cities
are
going
to
have
a
third
project
that
they
need
from
point
A
to
point
B,
whatever
they
may
be,
or
building
or
whatever
and
there's
a
request
for
RFQ
I.
Guess
that's
request
for
qualifications,
then
there's
a
request
for
RFP.
Can
you
tell
the
public
what
they
are?
Yes,.
K
One
is
request
for
proposals
and
the
other's
request
for
qualifications.
A
request
for
proposal
would
be
something
done
through.
Purchasing
purchasing
does
primarily
rfps
and
that's
for
purchasing
Commodities
and
the
like,
whereas
rfqs
are
situations
where
it
is
looking
for
qualified
applicants
and
those
then
go
to
a
committee
and
then
those
and
again
that's
the
whole
process,
so
I'm
giving
you
the
the
the
the
Reader's
Digest
version
and
those
are
ranked
and
those
are
presented
to
the
administration
for
recommendation
and
then
and
suppose,
and
what
happens
then?
Yes,.
H
B
Hamilton
legal
department,
the
RFP
processor
of
Pew
process
cost,
is
not
necessarily
the
primary
reason
for
rewarding
Abid.
You
have
to
look
at
the
qualifications
of
the
actual
firm
what
their
past
work
has
been.
There's
various
aspects.
We
also
deal
with
the
subcontractors
who
they
are,
who
they're
wishing
to
bring
forward
to
be
part
of
their
contract
as
a
subcontractor
under
the
prime
and.
B
H
Mind
goes
back
a
few
months
ago:
I
believe
we
had
a
contract
that,
if
whatever
reason
he
or
she
or
whatever,
the
company
was
not
doing
it
to
the
specification
of
which
there
were
they
took
the
job
on
I.
Think
one
was
in
South
Tampa
in
the
southern
part
of
District
Six
in
the
northern
part
of
District
Four
and
the
other
one
was
an
Armenia
heading
north.
When
you
passed
Waters
Avenue,
you
couldn't
move
I.
Remember
going
this.
What
happened
here?
I,
don't
even
know
it
was
closed
and
that
company
was
out
right.
B
We
had
two
contracts
where
there
were
defaults.
One
was
brought
to
council
as
a
takeover
agreement
and
we're
in
the
process
of
working
that
out
on
the
Takeover
agreement
has
been
executed.
The
Surety
was
Frankenmuth
on
that
there
were
some
issues
on
the
project,
so
we
are
negotiating
out
the
finals
as
to
getting
the
job
completed.
The
other
is
still
in
the
works.
B
H
B
H
B
On
the
Takeover,
the
bonding
The
Surety
does
that
and
quite
recently
there
have
been
some
issues
in
that
regard
on
our
particular
takeover
agreement.
It
most
likely
is
going
to
come
out
to
be
much
more
beneficial
to
us
as
the
city
than
other
jurisdictions
that
have
suffered
the
same
consequences
with
this
information.
H
I
just
want
to
make
Clarity
that
as
far
as
I
know
anyway,
maybe
someone
knows
something:
I
don't
know:
we've
done
everything
according
to
oil
and
oil
never
existed,
but
that
was
a
name
that
came
out.
I,
guess
I,
don't
know,
I
learned
that
in
school
somewhere
and
if
it
oil
and
stuck
with
me,
but
I
thought
it
was
Hoyt
William,
but
it
was
Hoyle
who
was
not
a
baseball
player,
but
it's
it's
I
mean
I,
see
the
things
that
come
through
and
I
see
the
it's
the
same
committee
all
the
time.
B
H
J
Yeah,
just
quick
quickly
sum
up:
Marty.
Might
this
I'm
just
speaking
for
myself,
but
the
most
important
thing
to
me
is
not
about
the
information
that
Council
can
get.
Those
resources
are
great,
there's
lots
of
information
online,
but
but
we
have
to
answer
the
public
and
it's
I
think
it's
best
from
a
transparency
point
of
view
to
have
some
presentation
of
this
to
us
in
a
public
forum
so
that
the
public
can
see
that
we're
not
hiding
anything.
G
J
J
The
the
CEO
Joe
lapano
stayed
out
of
the
process,
so
nobody
would
accuse
him
of
any
kind
of
favoritism.
Compare
that
to
Atlanta
where
our
former
report
director
went
the
FBI
jumped
in
and
looked
at
it
or
compare
that
to
the
the
convention
center
RFP
here
for
concessions
that
was
like
six
years
ago,
where
the
first
time
anybody
saw
it
was
in
the
paper
where
it
was.
There
were
all
kinds
of
allegations
against
the
against
it.
J
So
we
just
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
the
public
is
aware
of
what's
Happening,
that
the
process
is
going
to
be
handled
in
an
open
way
and
not
not
just
a
legal
way,
but
an
open
way
that
everybody
can
see.
What's
going
on,
we
need
to
make
sure
it's
competitive,
that
everybody
understands
it
put
it
on
demand.
Star
is
not
enough.
We
need
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
something.
Why
is
it
that
that
sometimes
selling
land
in
the
past
only
had
one
bidder?
I
mean
how?
J
Also
I
propose
a
process.
A
few
months
ago,
when
we
were
talking
about
Charter
amendments
where
the
mayor
could
recuse
him
or
herself,
and
and
even
if
the
legal
department
says,
there's
not
an
actual
conflict,
it
would
be
a
good
idea,
sometimes
for
the
mayor
or
certain
administrators
to
to
recuse
themselves.
If
you
have
a
family
member,
that's
participating
in
any
way
with
any
company
around
it.
J
The
lawyers
I
showed
the
the
Hannah
Avenue
CCNA
opinion
disagreed
with
it,
but
we
should
not
have
any
situation
where
a
contract
lasts
more
than
a
few
years,
and
and
definitely
there
should
be
no
situation
where
a
contract
goes
from
400
000
to
121
million.
That's
I
understand
the
reasons
why
somebody
might
want
to
do
that,
but
there
should
not
be
open
into
contracts
where
somebody
in
the
in
in
a
department
or
in
the
contract
administration
department
can
just
can
just
pick
the
same
firm
over
and
over
again.
I
I
do
think
Marty's
suggestion.
You
know
one
of
the
things
we've
been
talking
about
with
Marty
is
you
know
when
we
start
the
new
term
having
a
orientation
session
which
I
think
will
be
helpful
both
for
any
new
members
of
council,
but
also
the
returning
members
of
council
and
I
do
think.
It
was
very
helpful
for
me,
for
instance,
to
hear
Greg
spearman's
presentation,
which
he
did.
I
We
asked
him
to
do
for
the
legal
department
on
how
the
purchasing
process
works,
so
I
think
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
for
Council,
but
but
just
a
couple
of
comments.
One
of
you
made.
The
comment
like
there
needs
to
be
an
opportunity
for
Council
to
weigh
in
you
know
one
of
the
Marcy's,
the
expert
not
me,
but
but
the
the
competitive
bidding.
I
The
all
the
purchasing
processes
that
are
governed
by
Statute
and
governed
by
city
code
are
all
designed
to
keep
the
politicians
out
of
it
and
to
keep
the
politics
out
of
it.
So
it
really
the
whole
design
of
the
process
is
to
not
have
the
party's
weighing
in.
So
that's
that's
to
make
it
as
Fair
as
possible.
I
There
were
comments
made
about
single
beds
or
no,
you
know
where
we
only
get
one
bidder
keep
in
mind.
You
know
some
of
the
things
that
the
city
can't
avoid
like
having
insurance
requirements
bonding
requirements,
whatever
it's
going
to
cut
some
people
out
also,
every
time
we
add
things
to
our
code,
like
ebo,
small
business,
preference
for
local
businesses,
apprenticeship
requirements,
hiring
former
imprison
people,
some
of
the
other
things
we've
talked
about
over
the
years
kind
of
the
social
justice
things
that
we
add
into
our
Contracting
process.
I
Unfortunately,
one
of
the
side
effects
of
that
is
it.
It
can
shrink
the
pool
of
people
who
then
want
to
contract
with
the
city.
It's
just
it's
an
inevitability.
We
have
to
weigh
the
pros
and
cons
of
all
of
that.
So
I,
you
know
I'm
not
being
critical.
I
just
want
to
remind
people
of
that,
and
then
there
was
one
comment
about
the
mayor.
Recusing
herself,
you
know
again,
the
mayor
is
not
involved
in
these
processes
until
after
the
an
RFP
or
RFQ
or
CCNA
rankings
are
given
to
her.
I
She,
in
that
case
by
understanding
is
she
makes
the
final
selection
in
that
CCNA
world,
where
which
is
limited
to
I,
believe
Architects
lawyers,
engineers
and
one
other
kind
of
contract,
but
but
basically
again,
she
doesn't
get
to
put
her
finger
on
the
thumb
during
the
process
either.
And
again
it's
all
these.
You
know
in
government
world
that
the
purchasing
and
the
rfprfq
processors
are
particularly
designed
that
way
to
keep
to
keep
the
politicians
out
of
it
to
keep
the
elected
officials
out
of
it
to
keep
anyone
from
playing
favorites.
I
So
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
make
those
General
comments,
but
I
do
think
it's.
It
would
be
very
helpful
at
some
point
in
time
to
schedule
a
workshop
item
just
to
give
everyone
an
overview
of
how
these
processes
work,
because
you
all
hear
about
it.
After
the
fact,
it's
good
to
know
how
the
process
works
for
all
of
us.
J
Yeah,
just
if
we
do
that,
my
request
would
be
that
we
not
go
through
all
the
details
of
how
the
process
works,
just
if
we
could
focus
on
how
it's
open
and
competitive
and
fair
and-
and
you
know
and
transparent
those.
Those
are
the
things
that
the
public
really
cares
about,
right
and
and
then,
if,
if
you
have
Part
B,
which
is
going
into
the
minutia,
then
then
whoever
wants
to
opt
in.
Can
you
mentioned
having
Mr
Spearman
come
after
I
first
raised
questions
four
years
ago
about
purchasing.
I
Now,
in
fact,
I
think
most
of
the
projects
that
the
council
tends
to
care
about
are
in
that
CAD
world,
because
those
are
the
big
ticket
construction
projects
they're
in
the
cad
world
and
not
the
purchasing
World,
which
again
is
something
it
took
me
a
while
to
realize
and
that's
the
type
of
thing
I
think
will
be
helpful
again
for
all
of
council
to
just
kind
of
understand
who
does
what
and
how
different
things
are
done,
and
one
final
thing
that
I
don't
know
that
Marty
mentioned.
Is
that
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind?
I
Is
that
once
a
request
for
proposal
or
request
for
qualifications
is
issued?
And
again,
this
is
statutorily
required.
You
have
What's
called
the
cone
of
silence
which,
unlike
the
cone
of
silence,
that
the
two
of
us
who
are
old
enough
to
remember
get
smart
would
remember
which
was
a
joke.
It's
a
very,
very,
very
serious
thing
and
if
any
bidder
or
you
know,
person
submitting
a
proposal
violates
it
they're
automatically
disqualified
and
the
way
that
cone
of
silence
works
and
Marcy
can
correct
me.
If
I'm
saying
this
wrong,
is
you
know
once
it's
once?
I
It
is
invoked
the
bitters,
the
companies
seeking
the
work
are
given
one
point
of
contact
at
the
city
that
they
can
talk
to,
and
they
can
talk
to
no
one
else
and
so,
for
instance,
if
a
city
council
member
were
to
talk
to
a
bidder
about
their
proposal
that
could
disqualify
that
bidder.
So
it's
it's
very
serious,
so
we
need
to
yes,
we
want
transparency,
but
there
is.
There
is
also
a
period
during
which
you
can't
violate
that
cone
of
silence.
J
Yeah
just
to
just
to
finish
and
and
on
that
point,
I
think
maybe
Marcy
and
Marty
also
can
help
us
with
some
advice
before
also
I
think
we
need
to
be
not
right
now,
but
we
need
to
be
particularly
careful
also
about
people
that
approach
Us
in
advance
of
an
RFP.
We
don't
have
control
over
against
who's
who
who's
chosen.
J
But
when
anybody
tries
to
approach
me
and
say,
there's
an
RFP
coming
up,
even
if
it
hasn't
been
filed,
I
said
I,
don't
want
to
talk
about
it,
but
back
to
the
point
about
about
a
mayor
and
I'm
not
talking
about
this
particular
mayor.
But
if
a
mayor
has,
for
example,
a
family
member
Who's
involved
with
a
company,
that's
getting
a
contract,
even
if
the
mayor
is
not
on
the
selection
committee.
B
K
B
Different
scores
right
committee
rankings
they
are
available
in
the
documentation.
People
do
public
records
requests
for
those.
The
rankings
are
available,
whoever's
top
rank.
You
know
they
are
the
first
selection
to
send
to
the
mayor
usually
for
the
presentations
there's
a
ranking,
then
there's
presentations.
This
is
for
CCNA,
there's
presentations
and
depending
upon
what
the
rankings
are
after
the
presentations.
They'll
have
three
that
they
will
list
to
go
to
the
mayor
and
usually
it's
the
first
ranking
that
she
will
say,
go
forward
and
negotiate
a
contract.
K
K
But
that's
that's
council's
pleasure,
but
I
understand
what
the
message
that
I
I
hear
from
Council
is
that
they're
looking
for
a
process
again,
we
talk
about
transparency
and
having
it
open
and
with
regard
to
that,
perhaps
there
are
ways
we
can
improve.
Getting
that
information
to
council
and
getting
it
to
the
public
will
assist
you
but
I.
This
is
all
a
very
good
discussion
and
I
will
follow
up.
D
C
H
D
H
One
other
thing,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
Two
Gentlemen,
who
were
to
my
right
that
have
served
the
city
for
four
years.
I
enjoyed
working
with
both
of
you
and
I
I've
learned
some
from
you
and
I
hope.
You've
heard
some
from
us
and
remember
my
whole
saying:
I
have
never
lost
an
election.
I
just
never
got
enough
votes,
so
you
go
to
life
that
way
and
you
never
get
mad
at
yourself
and
I've
lost
elections.
F
Say
thank
you
to
Amari
I'd
like
to
give
him
accommodation,
Amara
Elmore.
He
next
week
will
be
his
last
day
at
city
council.
He
will
be
retiring,
I
know
what
that
day
feels
like
when
it
gets
near.
You
know
it's
light
when
you
wake
up
the
next
morning,
you're
thinking
you've
got
to
go
to
work
and
like
where's,
my
Where's
My
Car
where's,
my
badge
and
my
gun.
F
So
I
know
what
that
feeling
is
like,
and
it's
a
great
feeling.
So
for
me.
What
you've
done
here
since
I've
been
here
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
you
got
recognized
in
a
proper
way
and
get
you
an
accommodation
for
next
week.
I
appreciate
it.
It's
well
deserving
you've
been
here
for
us
and
again,
Mass
patrol
officer
retire
on
May
6
with
10
Police
Department
was
served
since
May
2000
23
years
of
service
17
years
in
a
SWAT
team
and
to
be
given
on
April
27
2023.
H
G
D
J
D
J
J
And
second
I'd
like
to
do
this.
While
this
council
is
still
here
twice
twice
before
I
presented
the
Tampa
score
card
numbers
in
a
10-minute
presentation,
it's
taken
a
couple
years
to
get
the
new
numbers,
but
it'll
be
a
new
Council,
but
but
I
appreciate
being
able
to
speak
for
10
minutes
up
to
10
minutes
about
the
Tampa
scorecard
on
June
22nd.