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A
Good
morning
the
city
of
Tampa
community
redevelopment
agency
meeting
is
called
to
order
board.
Member
Carlson
has
the
invocation
today,
good.
C
Morning,
everybody
one
of
the
churches:
I
go
to
is
Hyde
Park,
United
Methodist
and
you
all
may
know
that
churches
around
the
country
and
around
the
world
have
been
shrinking,
but
the
Hyde
Park
United,
Methodist
Church,
has
been
growing
while
some
other
Methodist
churches
have
have
not
and
a
few
years
ago
the
First
United
Methodist
Church
in
downtown,
which
is
a
beautiful
mid-century,
modern
building,
I
think
was
it
genuine.
C
Was
the
architect
I
can't
remember
anyway,
that
that
building
was
handed
over
to
the
Hyde
Park
United
Methodist
Church
and
it
could
have
been
taken
down
at
that
time.
It
could
have
been
sold
off
in
some
kind
of
development
and
said
the
members
of
the
church
decided
to
turn
into
a
social
Enterprise
and
the
person
that's
running.
It
is
Justin
LaRosa
who
I
think
everybody
knows
so
Reverend
Justin
LaRosa
LCSW
is
an
ordained
minister
in
the
United
Methodist
Church
at
licensed
clinical
social
worker
are
certified
Enneagram
practitioner,
author
and
spiritual
entrepreneur
who
leads
change.
C
He
is
a
director
and
minister
of
the
Portico,
which
is
that
operation
of
the
old
church,
a
Cutting
Edge
initiative
in
the
oldest
church
in
downtown
Tampa,
which
became
the
port.
It
includes
a
social
Enterprise
Cafe,
a
historic
Chapel
spaces
to
meet
and
work
an
event
space
for
the
public
in
an
unconventional
church
that
serves
the
city
in
ways
that
address
equality,
housing,
insecurity
and
economic
challenge.
Additionally,
he
is
one
of
the
founders
and
board
members
of
portico
Housing
Solutions
Inc
and
has
a
part-time
private
practice.
D
Thank
you,
everyone.
Let's
pray,
God
of
many
names.
We
gather
together
in
your
presence
this
morning,
centering
ourselves
on
your
goodness
We
Gather,
with
open
minds
and
grateful
hearts
and
offer
thanks
for
this
city
and
the
opportunity
to
serve.
Thank
you
for
the
engaged
citizens
that
are
here,
the
city
council,
the
aides,
all
the
city,
employees
who
work
behind
the
scenes
to
make
Tampa
function,
Thrive
and
grow.
May
you
give
them
all
a
spirit
of
wisdom
and
humility
and
servanthood.
D
We
pray
for
the
downtown
residents
and
workers,
including
those
people
who
don't
have
a
place
to
lay
their
head.
We
pray
for
the
citizens,
who
will
Advocate
and
invest
their
time
and
talent
to
build
this
inclusive
and
diverse
City
and
deal
with
the
many
issues
before
us
that
relate
to
growth
and
poverty.
The
Hebrew
scriptures
implores
to
seek
the
welfare
of
the
city
and
the
New
Testament
reminds
us
over
and
over
again,
not
to
forget
the
needs
of
the
poor,
and
so
they
are
before
us.
D
Keep
us
mindful
of
the
people
and
families
who
are
spending
more
than
half
of
their
wages
on
housing
and
Empower.
This,
this
team
of
amazing
people
to
construct
a
city
that
builds
on
our
many
strengths
and
that
takes
care
of
all
of
its
residents.
So
we
ask
that
you
provide
astute
discernment
and
Clarity
and
direction
to
each
council
member
as
they
process.
The
many
issues
and
reports
on
the
agenda
allow
their
discussions
to
be
productive
and
respectful,
even
amidst
disagreement
and
ignite
us
to
be
the
people.
C
Member
Carl
one
just
one
more
thing-
relate
Justin
one
more
thing
about
the
the
Portico
real
fast
one
of
the
non-profits
that
leases
from
them
at
a
reduced
rate
is
Love
INC,
which
helps
homeless
people
and
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
someone
I
knew
was
a
day
or
two
away
from
being
homeless
and
and
got
in
touch
with
loving,
because
I
was
involved
with
the
Portico
and
Justin.
He
found
me
and
other
people
that
supported
this
person.
C
We
did
a
GoFundMe
campaign
to
raise
enough
money
to
help
the
person
find
affordable
housing
and
it
shows
the
the
power
of
connectivity
and
the
power
of
non-profits
that
help
people.
But
that
is
one
story
as
Connie
Burton's
in
the
audience
and
others
who
talk
about
these
issues
every
week.
C
But
the
person
I
knew
who
was
almost
homeless,
had
a
health
issue
and
couldn't
work
anymore
and
we're
all
one
health
issue
away
from
potentially
being
homeless,
and
so
I
encourage
everyone
to
get
involved
in
non-profits
and
other
ways
to
try
to
help
all
the
people
who
are
dropping
through
the
cracks
and
end
up
potentially
in
a
homeless
situation
like
that.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
roll
call,
please.
F
A
F
A
G
Anymore,
no,
you
don't.
Your
bylaws
are
essentially
the
same
as
City
council's
bylaws.
So
since
you're
bylaws,
the
city
council
have
been
changed
to
allow
public
comment
via
CMT
or
virtually
you
do
not
have.
We
don't
have
to
do
emotion,
anymore,
wonderful,.
G
A
H
Good
morning,
CRA
board
members,
Nicole
Travis
administrative
development
and
Economic
Opportunity
interim
CRA,
director
Madam
chair
for
the
agenda.
We
would
like
to
take
items
five,
six
and
ten
together
when
the
time
allows.
There's
a
continuance
request
for
item
seven,
eight
and
nine
to
May
11th
2023
CRA
meeting.
Please.
A
A
I
have
a
motion
by
board
member
Goods
seconded
by
board
member
Miranda,
all
in
favor
all
right,
I
need
a
post.
Okay
motion
passes:
okay,
Mr
Murphy,
oh
I'm.
Sorry,
public
comment,
gosh
apologies!
A
So
if
anyone
wants
to
speak
today,
please
come
up.
You'll
have
three
minutes.
If
you
want
to
form
a
line.
Anyone
this
morning.
J
If
your
body,
if
you
help
the
poor,
you
are
listening
to
the
Lord
and
He,
will
repay
you
and
also
I
got
a
telephone
call.
I
call
all
you
all
secretary
yesterday
and
councilman
Maniscalco,
your
secretary
I,
said
a
meet
up
for
us
for
Monday
at
nine
o'clock
at
the
center
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
still
be
able
to
make
it
Lisa
Edwards.
J
S,
it
will
be
Monday
at
nine
o'clock,
so
do
I
need
to
leave
my
my
phone
number
or
anything
after.
J
L
L
Public
comments
do
become
public
record
and
while
we
are
acutely
aware,
city
council
cannot
assist
with
Memorial
Park
Cemetery,
the
reality
is
what
we
are
doing
is
making
sure
that
future
Generations
know.
Community
members
stood
before
city
council
representing
hundreds
with
families
buried
there,
including
thousands
and
thousands
that
have
no
voice
for
prosperity's
sake.
We
are
making
sure
that,
for
the
record,
those
that
come
after
us
will
know
there
were
people
that
cared
enough
about
Tampa's
black
history.
L
Its
significant
value
should
be
held
with
high
esteem
as
a
historical
black
Cemetery,
with
the
only
black
veterans
Monument
with
over
850
veterans
buried
there.
So
please
know
we
get
it.
You
can't
help
the
cemetery.
This
historical
black
cemetery
is
protected
from
development.
We
get
it.
That
is
not
why
we
are
here.
We
are
here
because
this
is
history
in
the
making
and
we
will
not
be
silenced,
say
Memorial,
Park,
Cemetery,.
M
Massey
notice
morning
we're
meeting
as
a
CRA
board.
But
can
this
board
or
either
refer
to
city
council,
to
see
how
staff
can
look
at
making
Memorial
part
of
the
criteria
for
making
a
historical
site.
G
Well,
first
of
all,
you
are
in
you're
you're.
You
can't
really
do
that
in
your
capacity
CRA,
anything
that
I
think
what
you're
asking
is
for
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
to
be
landmarked
as
a
local
landmark.
That's
done
through
the
city's
historic
preservation
program
at
city
council.
Perhaps
tonight
you
can
make
a
motion
asking
for
Mr
Fernandez
and
his
staff
to
report
back
on
whether
that's
part
of
their
program
or
whether
they
could
add
it
to
their
program
to
to
study
in
the
potential
of
landmarking
that,
as
a
local,
historic
framework.
H
Yes,
good
morning
again,
Nicole
Travis
administrative
development
and
Economic
Opportunity
historic
preservation
is
in
my
portfolio
and
Dennis.
Fernandez
is
already
working
on
that.
So.
N
Hello,
my
name
is
Hallie
Reed
I
live
at
2059
Ronald
Circle
in
negotiations
to
buy
back
Memorial
Park
Cemetery.
The
current
owner
Alex
Ortega
will
certainly
ask
for
a
very
high
price
and
do
everything
he
can
to
maximize
his
profits.
The
land
Memorial
sits
on.
If
it
were
a
regular
commercial
land
would
be
incredibly
valuable,
but
that
is
not
commercial
land.
It
is
a
historic
Cemetery
one
that
has
not
been
financially
valuable
for
nearly
20
years.
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
is
full.
N
There
are
no
more
plots
that
can
be
sold
underneath
the
large
patches
of
green
in
between
headstones
are
tightly
packed
on
Mark,
Graves
I
know
this
and
I
can
say
so
with
confidence,
because
last
summer
I
managed
to
document
over
15
000
burials.
Even
with
all
the
burials
I
was
able
to
count.
There
was
a
large
gap
in
the
research.
I
was
able
to
do
so.
The
true
number
is
probably
close
to
twenty
thousand.
The
fact
that
Memorial
Park
is
full
is
what
caused
it
to
fall
into
neglect
and
severe
disrepair
in
this
situation.
N
We
are
into
today
when
Alex
Ortega
bought
Memorial
Park
Cemetery.
The
mayor's
office
issued
a
statement
saying
that
the
new
owners
would
be
held
accountable
for
its
well-being.
As
of
now
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
is
in
significant
need
of
repair
and
restoration
work,
starting
with
putting
a
full
fence
around
it
without
offense
homeless,
encampments
have
been
made
there
at
night,
leaving
behind
trash,
discarded
belongings
and
they
have
damaged
headstones
by
cracking
food
containers
against
them.
N
I
have
been
visiting
Memorial,
Park
Cemetery
on
a
regular
basis
for
about
a
year
now
and
on
a
rate
of
about
one
per
month.
Chickens
are
sacrificed
there
at
night
and
left
there
to
rot
when
I
was
taking
pictures.
Yesterday,
I
smelled
the
latest
chicken
before
I
saw
it.
One
of
the
most
urgently
needed
repairs
at
Memorial
is
repairs
to
the
very
large
hole
in
the
Vault
of
Jonas
Lee
Tillman.
E
N
The
hole
has
gotten
significantly
larger,
since
I
first
noticed
it
last
year.
In
addition,
there
are
also
at
least
two
gaping
open
sinkholes
currently
covered
with
construction
barricades.
All
of
this
becomes
even
more
alarming.
Knowing
that
Memorial
Park
has
a
history
of
bone
theft
in
2006,
the
Vault
belonging
to
seven-year-old
Stevie
Dale
was
pried
open
in
his
remains
were
stolen.
To
my
knowledge,
the
remains
were
never
recovered.
N
There
are
two
other
above
ground
vaults,
with
top
slabs
that
have
been
pushed
to
the
side
likely
during
Hurricane
Ian
with
the
contents
visible
inside.
There
are
also
numerous
broken
and
toppled
over
headstones
and
headstones
that
have
been
sucking
into
the
soft
ground
so
far
that
the
name
is
covered
up
numerous
ground
level.
Vaults
are
so
overgrown
with
that
the
concrete
covering
them
is
barely
visible,
Memorial's
location
on
MLK
and
the
fact
that
people
walk
through
it
during
the
day
means
that
accumulates
trash.
N
If
Memorial
work
owned
by
the
city,
the
cemetery
Society
could
put
together
a
dedicated
group
of
volunteers
to
pick
this
trash
up
once
a
month,
but
because
it
is
owned
by
artega.
It
is
his
responsibility,
as
well
as
repairing
the
broken
Vault
and
headstones.
Finally,
I
would
like
to
address
Alex
Ortega
personally.
N
The
city
of
Tampa
may
have
made
a
mistake
in
losing
Memorial
at
auction,
but
is
doing
everything
it
can
to
remedy
this
mistake
by
refusing
to
sell
Memorial
Park
back
at
a
reasonably
low
price
and
try
to
maximize
your
profits
on
top
of
History's
Tampa's
history
of
black
trauma
and
Cemetery
Erasure.
You
align
yourself
with
some
of
the
worst
people
in
Tampa
History.
Is
this
really
what
you
want
your
legacy
to
be.
A
A
You
board
member
goose,
Mr
Madison.
M
G
L
O
Regarding
councilman
board
member
Guru,
drusay
I
think
we're
going
to
make
a
motion
to
that
to
have
it
officially
done
I'm,
not
saying
it
wasn't
done,
I'm
sure
it
was
done,
but
to
have
it
on
the
record
in
cases
ever
goes
to
court
that
we
pinpoint
the
responsibility
on
the
owner.
Current
owner
of
the
cemetery
and
I
would
second
Mr
Good
motion.
I
M
I
My
name
is
I
care
before
last
week
to
the
set
of
council.
What's
going
on
on
48th
Street,
nothing
ever
been
done.
They
used
the
right-of-way
to
wash
car,
it's
ESL,
not
in
a
commercial
neighborhood.
It's
a
residential
neighborhood.
They
get
the
dirt
bike,
go
to
3201
the
game
up
over
there.
They
ride
the
dirt
bike
up
and
down
48th
street
cars
on
48th
Street,
taking
48
like
a
race
track,
and
it's
sad
and
Mr
Goose.
You
came
by
the
house
last
week,
but
I
was
home.
I
You
could
have
stopped
and
let
me
know
something
because
if
we
try
to
get
this
neighborhood
right
for
the
people
that
rent
they
don't
care,
people
they're
on
their
own,
like
me,
have
to
pay
property
tax
and
it's
not
right.
Every
year,
I
end
up
about
a
thousand
on
property
tax
and
let
the
rental
come
in,
do
what
they
want.
They
need
to
put
some
speed
bumps
and
they
don't
want
to
put
speed
but
they're
going
to
put
three-way
stop
sign.
I
M
My
office
did
send
a
memo
to
the
administration
I'm
one
person
I
can
I
can
get
it
to
them,
but
they
have
to
act
upon
it.
I
can
talk
to
them
until
I'm
blue
on
the
face
we've
sent.
It
we'll
send
another
member
to
the
administration
asking
it
code,
mobility
and
the
police
department
get
out
there
to
to
reevaluate
you're
right
I've
gone
through
that
I
I
know
what
it
looked
like.
M
It's
down
there
and
again,
CT
called
me:
I
went
through
there
and
again,
we've
already
sent
that
so,
hopefully
now
again
we'll
send
another
one.
Miss
Travis
just
got
up
so
we'll
send
another
email
to
the
administration,
asking
them
to
send
a
team
out
there
to
see
what
else
we
can
do.
That's
all
I
can
promise
you
for
for
right
now
until
I
leave
in
a
couple
of
weeks,
but
I'll
still
be
coming
to
that
Podium.
If
things
are
not
looked
into.
Okay.
I
I
want
to
ask
you
it's
good
they're
on
3201
they're,
the
one
that
keep
all
the
commercials
on
going
on
dirt
bike.
Therefore,
God
gather
to
that
house
the
mom
don't
care
they
have
the
car
Park
all
the
way
down
for
the
eight
speed
I
wish
you'd
do
something
back.
P
Good
morning,
CRA
board
chair
board
members,
Alison
Hewitt,
East,
Tampa
resident
I
sent
an
email
to
you
guys
early
this
morning
as
we
get
to
the
budget
season.
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
point
out
that
we
are
again
are
in
the
East
Tampa
CRA,
trying
to
move
things
forward
and
going
to
be
rolling
over
some
dollars.
P
I
am
a
consultant
in
my
day-to-day
life,
so
I
live
and
die
by
the
contracts
that
govern
me
with
my
clients,
and
so
I
did
have
some
comments
about
the
service
agreement
under
the
article
one
Redevelopment
Services,
the
actual
activities
that
the
service
agreements
have
a
lot
of
passive
language
as
a
assist
in
there.
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
had
challenges
with
in
the
East
Tampa
CRA
is
legal
and
purchasing.
P
We
send
things
over
and
they
get
stuck
in
bogged
down,
and
if
someone
was
going
to
be
governed
by
the
letter
of
the
law,
they
can
say.
Well,
we
will
assist
you
as
soon
as
we
can
so
again,
as
Miss
Travis
and
Elise
drumable
are
trying
to
move
things
forward
if
you
can
help
support
them
in
trying
to
put
some
fire
under
the
assist
language.
The
other
section
that
I
had
a
little
bit
of
concern
with
is
the
article
3
period.
I
mean
article
3
staff
and
compensation.
P
There
is
a
line
in
there
that
says
the
CRA
director
will
ensure
that
all
programs
and
initiative
align
with
the
city
the
CRA
board's
mission
and
vision.
My
challenge
with
that
is
technically.
First,
they
should
align
with
the
state
statute
that
governs
cras
before
we
do
the
city
and
do
the
CRA
boards
and
Mission
that
we
are
in
line
with
the
state
statute.
P
P
What
are
they,
who
will
be
responsible
to
make
sure
that
they
are
achieving
those
goals
who
drafts
that
to
have
that
Clarity
in
the
contract
and
I
am
deeply
regret
that
comments
that
I
try
to
make
to
represent
my
neighborhood
while
I'm
third
generation
is
seen
as
a
distraction,
but
my
work
as
hard
as
I,
possibly
can
on
my
free
time
to
make
sure
that
I
am
representing
the
area
that
I
am
a
third
generation
from
and
plan
on,
continue
to
stay
Thank.
You
very
much.
A
Q
I
want
to
be
an
alignment
of
the
prayer
that
was
presented
this
morning
that
we
have
to
focus
on
the
needs
of
the
poor,
and
if
the
church
is
not
such
and
if
we're
not
such,
then
it
calls
for
a
critical
re-examination
of
Who
We
Are
April.
The
4th
1968
represents
something
dear
to
most
of
us,
and
that
was
the
loss
of
one
of
our
greatest
leaders.
Q
Dr
King
and
I
would
like
to
focus
you
on
one
of
Dr
King's,
most
I
think
best
speeches
when
he
talked
about
the
other
America
and
when
I
hear
the
other
America,
it
aligns
me
with
the
other
Tampa,
a
Tampa
that
is
prospering
and
a
one
that
is
not
a
one
that
has
had
a
CRA,
the
first
CRA
in
the
State
of
Florida
and
is
still
languishing
in
poverty,
gentrification,
a
loss
of
Hope
and
great
apathy,
because
we
can't
move
the
bar.
Q
What
we
see
happening
coming
out
of
the
Civil
Rights
Movement,
brilliant
black
people,
elevating
themselves
to
work
with
the
administration,
but
it's
powerless
because
it
cannot
do
what
people
needed
to
do.
What
we've
been
asking
for
for
the
last
two
years
is
that
we
want
our
young
people
to
have
a
wonderful
live
summer.
Job
experience,
it's
not
on
the
agenda,
I,
don't
blame
them,
but
I
blame
the
administration,
because
you
can't
talk
about
gun,
violence,
death
and
a
lack
of
economic
opportunities.
When
you
provide
nothing,
we
want
our
children,
a
similar
aligned
with
hope.
Q
We
do
not
see,
hope
and
just
them.
Picking
up
paper
to
CRA
board
agreed
to
hiring
of
72
young
people
that
has
been
scaled
back
to
36..
We
was
not
asking
City
staff
to
Mentor
these
children,
but
we
said
we
had
enough
money
and
our
budget,
almost
20
million
dollars
to
afford
a
consultant
to
develop
these
young
people.
So
they
can
understand
the
real
world
of
work.
Q
We
have
to
give
them
something
that
counter
what
they
see
through
rap
music
and
all
of
the
other
false
facade
on
how
to
get
money,
and
what
we
constantly
get
is
a
pushback
from
the
mayor's
surrogates,
whether
they
are
here
or
on
the
radio
saying
no.
But
what
you
will
see
moving
forward
is
a
turnaround
in
this
city
because
we're
beginning
to
understand
what
economic
Prosperity
can
look
for
all.
It
cannot
be
that
we
are
wishing
that
our
community
could
do
better
when
we
have
the
financial
means
for
it
to
happen.
Q
A
R
Good
morning
my
name
is
norene
Copeland,
Miller
and
I
live
in
1911,
East,
Chelsea
and
I'm
here
this
morning
to
say:
I
am
a
part
of
the
East
Tampa
partnership,
the
CAC
I'm,
a
CAC
board
member
and
I
know
that
the
city
is
working,
there's
some
negotiating
going
on
with
the
owner
of
the
Memorial
Park
Cemetery,
because
basically
my
number
one
issue
right
now
is
save
Memorial,
Park,
Cemetery
and
I
know
a
couple
of
years
ago
when
we
asked,
but
when
we
talk
about
slum
and
blight
and
infrastructure,
the
CAC
board
offered
we
wanted
to
and
put
in
a
request
to
put
a
fence
on
the
MLK
side
and
a
fence
on
the
26th
Street
side
to
close
it
in
with
some
additional
signage
for
Memorial
Park
Cemetery
that
was
tabled,
and
then
we
requested
again
and
that's
when
we
found
out
about
a
the
city
didn't
own
it
anymore.
R
The
bottom
line
here
it's
time
to
do
the
right
thing
and
I
did
listen
to
one
of
the
board
members
last
week
saying
that
we
need
to
understand
you
all
and
have
anything
to
do
with
that.
It's
very
clear
what
happened
to
me,
but
you
are
in
public
officials
serving
we're
your
constituents.
We
got
City
Wide
up
there.
We
got
districts.
All
of
you
when
you
see
something
happens,
wrong.
I
expect
your
support
to
make
it
right
not
sit
up
and
play
a
blame
game,
because
at
this
point
it's
after
the
fact
it
has
happened.
R
R
That
will
do
the
right
thing
for
the
City
of
Tampa
Florida,
historical
black
Cemetery,
to
save
our
history,
so
that
people
be
more
engaged
and
interested
in
those
Souls
that
are
in
there
a
lot
of
people
that
contributed
to
building
this
great
City
and
some
call
it
Paradise
in
all
of
those
things.
But
we
are
over
in
the
land
of
the
Forgotten.
That's
how
I'm
feeling
about
right
now
in
our
area,
in
the
Bama
Heights
area
in
the
Jackson
Height
area.
R
It's
so
convenient
to
call
it
East
Tampa,
because
that's
so
Broad
and
we
know
East
Ham
go
all
the
way
to
Falkenburg,
but
the
historical
things
that
are
going
on
in
my
neighborhood
is
being
erased
and
I
certainly
want
this
Council
to
do
better
and
make
it
right
because
I'm
I,
like
I,
said
I'll
come
here
every
week
until
something
happened
with
Memorial
Park
Cemetery,
but
I.
Thank
God.
He's
allowed
me
to
come
down
and
speak
to
you
guys,
as
well
as
the
owner,
should
have
a
sense
of
responsibility.
R
A
M
And
I
mean
I'm
gonna
probably
get
dinged
forward,
but
you
know
I'm
walking
out
the
door.
So
don't
let
the
difference
see
what
you
have
still
you
have
institutional
racism,
still
governmental
racism
until
you're
able
to
weed
out
that
you're
going
to
continue
to
have
the
same
thing
until
people
have
the
mindset
to
help
everyone.
Instead
of
having
a
certain
class,
you
will
still
have
the
same
thing.
M
Each
Temple
is
a
certain
place
and
you
categorize
it
because,
like
one
person
said
you
know
you're
now
you
have
a
Southeast
Seminole
Heights,
a
southern
Seminole
Heights.
You
have
you're
breaking
it
up
now,
breaking
it
up,
and
until
you
have
a
team
or
the
administration
puts
together
a
team
and
Miss
Travis
and
Mr
jungle,
man
they
work
in
their
bloodshot,
but
and
they
can't
do
it
by
themselves.
M
M
M
Q
M
That's
being
truth
to
power
I,
don't
we
have
a
lot
of
Pawns,
but
what
I
say
to
the
community
and
say
this
this
board?
Let's
move
forward!
Let's
make
something
happen.
Let's
push
this
this
next
boy.
Who
may
be
this
Administration
to
get
a
team
for
each
Tampa,
a
actual
team
and
say
go
out
and
make
it
happen.
M
Q
Q
M
It's
Travis
is
here:
she
has
the
experience
announcement.
Man,
she's,
This,
Woman's,
busy
Mr
drum,
goes
busy
too
they're
trying
the
best,
but
they
need
help
and
hopefully,
in
the
near
future,
this
board,
or
whoever
this
board
will
be,
will
actually
get
the
help
that
they
truly
deserve
and
need
to
make
things
move.
Thank
you.
C
Yeah,
if
I
could
just
add
to
that,
we
that
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
service
agreement
today,
we
four
years
ago,
more
than
anybody
in
recent
years,
separated
the
CRA
from
the
city,
but
we
were
not
given
the
staff
that
could
help
us
implement
the
things
we
need
to
do
and
we
kept
asking
asking
we
made
motions
and
things
were
happening
and
now
we've
got
staff
that
are
making
things
happen.
C
Finally,
but
they're
doing
it
part-time,
hopefully
we're
going
to
get
some
permanent
staff
soon
when
we
get
to
the
contract
I'm
going
to
talk
about
staff,
but
it's
the
same
thing
with
the
city.
I,
don't
know
about
you
all,
but
I
hear
complaints
at
every
single
Department.
There
are
systemic
service
issues
in
every
Department
of
the
city
and
even
in
the
Kohl's
department
and
Nicole
is
outstanding.
You
know,
we've
got
great
leaders,
OC
I
think
is
a
great
leader.
I
mean
we've
got
great
leaders
in
departments,
but
we've
got
you
all.
C
C
We
need
to
get
out
because
we
don't
need
the
dirty
politics
anymore
and
then
the
people
who
who
nod
and
then
don't
do
anything
because
they
keep
getting
pushed
up
because
they
don't
they
don't
ruffle
feathers.
They
need
to
get
pushed
out
because
we
need
people
who
get
results
cheapest.
I
know
the
chief
of
staff
in
Earnest
has
all
these
metrics
and
everything,
but
we've
got
to
hold
people
accountable
to
metrics,
and
we've
got
to
move
the
dead
weight
out
faster.
C
The
taxpayers
don't
want
to
pay
for
it
and
they
want
results
all
across
the
city.
Every
neighborhood
every
homeowner
thinks
that
only
their
street
has
potholes
on
it
or
every
every
every
everybody
thinks
that
only
their
park
is
falling
apart
or
or
only
code
enforcement
is
not
affecting
their
area.
C
We've
got
to
fix
that
systemically
and
we're
being
held
accountable
now
through
the
elections,
but
but
in
four
years
our
our
legacies
are
going
to
be
cemented
based
on
what
we
did
and
and
people
as
you
heard
just
now,
people
don't
care
whether
it's
the
mayor
that
did
it
or
we
did
it,
we're
all
being
held
accountable
for
the
same
thing.
So
I
would
just
ask
the
administration
please
work
with
us,
but
when
we
get
to
budgeting
time,
I
think
by
Charter
the
budget
is
the
purview
of
council
by
by
the
law.
C
The
CRA
budget
is
a
purview
of
the
CRA
board.
We
have
the
control
we
can
go
through
with
a
knife
and
cut
it.
We
can
cut
out
the
people
who
are
playing
dirty
politics.
We
can
cut
out
the
dead
weight.
If
people
aren't
performing,
we
can.
We
can
ask
the
chief
of
staff
to
come
present
the
performance
numbers
and
show
us
who's
not
performing
and
we'll
cut
them
out
of
the
budget.
That's
where
we
have
our
power,
but
we
need
to
we.
C
O
You
very
much
I
I
would
like
to
and
I'll
do
it
in
the
city
council
meeting
I,
don't
think
it's
a
CRA,
but
the
city
is
divided
into
four
quadrants.
Four.
Five,
six
and
seven,
which
compose
the
whole
city
of
Tampa,
which
sends
districts,
are
composed
in
districts.
One
two
and
three
is
to
city-wide.
O
So
somewhere,
there's
a
budget
that
tells
you
how
much
money
was
spent
in
each
quadrant
and
why
it
was
spent
and
how
was
spent
if
I
remember
from
the
past
so
not
today,
because
now
it's
a
CRA
but
city
council
tonight
we'll
make
a
motion
for
the
administration
to
give
us
collectively
the
four
sums
of
the
digits
of
those
four
districts
to
find
out
where
the
money
went
where
it
was
spent
and
who
benefited
from
it.
So
I'll
do
that
tonight.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
Yeah,
if
I
could
just
add
to
that
when
you
look
at
it
the
way
they
presented
last
year,
most
of
the
money
for
south
Tampa
was
from
the
stormwater
project
and
I
think
pipes,
because
they
all
happen
to
be
there.
But
what
we
need
to
do
there.
There
are
city-wide
Mobility
plans,
Citywide
Public,
Safety
plans,
Citywide
Parks
plans,
all
of
those
have
taken
three
or
four
years,
and
those
should
show
us
how
things
are
being
spent
equitably.
C
They,
the
the
parks
plan,
is
going
to
be
presented
to
us
in
a
couple
weeks
and
it
should
show
how
we
could
equitably
spend
in
each
quadrant,
but
also
with
the
oldest
most
rundown
services
or
facilities,
and
so
I'm
I'm
all
for
Equity.
C
The
only
thing
I
I
want
to
be
careful
of
is
that
these
these
big
infrastructure
projects
are
being
used
as
investments
in
neighborhoods
for
the
short
term,
the
neighborhoods
see
them
as
a
big
pain
because
they
can't
drive
around
and
they
think
there's
a
lack
of
coordination,
but
in
the
long
run
it
might,
it
might
solve
flooding,
problems
or
other
things.
But
we
need
to
make
sure
that
that
there's
efficiency
in
all
the
different
departments
is
starting
with
CRA
and
everything
else.
We
have
complete,
in
theory,
complete
controller
CRA.
C
A
S
Yes
good
morning,
my
name
is
Michael
Randolph
and
I'm,
with
the
West
Tampa
CDC
good
morning,
City
of
Tampa
good
morning
cra
today,
I
want
to
talk
about
a
follow-up
discussion
on
the
West
Tampa
technology,
wealth
building
and
job
creation
center.
As
you
know,
we
talked
a
lot
about
the
wealth,
Building
Center
related
to
West
Tampa
home
base,
slash
e-commerce
initiative.
Today,
I
wanted
to
think
about
the
technology
part
of
that
initiative.
S
S
Machines
are
taking
over
the
West
Tampa
Technology
Center
was
put
together
to
even
the
playing
field.
The
West
Tampa
Technology
Center
will
teach
to
teach
in
terms
of
how
to
do
web
three,
but
three
is
important
because
web
one
and
web
T
was
taking
over
by
Facebook
Tic,
Tac
and
all
those
other
organization.
S
Now
it's
a
new
a
new
day
and
with
the
webpage
and
even
the
players,
you
know
in
addition
to
that
e-commerce
we'll
be
teaching
as
well
as
artificial
intelligence,
specifically
taxi
PPT
virtual
reality,
applications
related
to
game,
mobile
web
pages,
Etc,
social
media
and
and
even
the
digital
derived.
This
is
listen
to.
This
is
very
important
because
today
we
need
to
plan
for
today
and
tomorrow,
jobs
that
used
to
be
that
folks
are
gone,
quick
and
fast.
That's
a
crisis
out
here.
We
need
to
deal
with
technology
like
yesterday.
S
The
strategy
that
the
West
Tampa
has
is
to
do
the
deals
at
the
cheapest
possible
price,
because
you
don't
need
a
million
dollars
in
order
to
bring
this
technology
to
the
community.
I
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
councilman
Miranda
you've
been
around
for
a
second
you've,
seen
the
CDC
come
up,
go
down
and
coming
back
again
and
all
during
that
time,
you've
always
been
a
stand-up
guy.
S
You
always
you
always
make
sure
that
your
position
was
known.
So
I'm
gonna
give
a
shout
out
to
that.
We
really
appreciate
this
guy.
In
addition
to
that,
Miss
Travis
I'll
be
calling
you
soon
to
have
a
conversation
about
CRA
and
economic
development,
especially
in
light
of
the
new
things
that
are
coming
to
the
CRA
by
way
of
the
past.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
talk
next
time.
S
A
T
My
name
is
Dana
Wiles
I
stay
in
the
Belmont
Heights
area.
Kind
of
bird
is
my
sister
one
of
my
sisters,
the
Belmont
Heights
area,
the
the
gator
building
on
the
corner.
The
seniors
don't
have
nowhere
to
go
to
shop.
We
have
no
kind
of
amenity
for
that
area.
T
When
you
ride
through
that
area,
all
you
see
is
trash
at
that
area.
We
try
to
pick
it
up,
but
people
that
come
that
don't
live
in,
that
area
drop
their
trash
in
our
area.
We
sick
or
tired
of
that.
We
definitely
need
jobs
for
the
young
people,
so
they'll
know
how
to
live
and
work
in
our
community
I
get
pissed
off
when
I
see
that
that
young
people
don't
have
no
job.
The
seniors
need
help
I'm
in
the
area
where
I'm
at
I
go
check
on
the
seniors
that
around
me.
T
The
seniors
need
help,
not,
though,
over
here
just
a
few
dollars
over
here.
We
tired
of
the
horse
and
pony,
show
retired
of
y'all,
say
y'all
gonna
help
us
and
y'all.
Don't
do
anything
and
what
really
making
me
pissed
off
that
we
suffering
over
and
over
again,
that's
all
I.
Have
to
say,
y'all
have
a
God
blessed
day.
A
Okay,
Mr
Murphy.
A
U
V
Thanks
so
much
hey
folks,
good
morning
my
name
is
Thomas
Murphy
I
Am,
the
chair
for
the
Central
Park
CAC
and
I
am
here
to
give
you
an
update
on
what's
going
on
in
Central
Park,
so
show
of
hands
who's
familiar
with
where
Central
Park
is
boundaries.
Everything
everybody
knows.
Okay,
perfect,
so
I
have
here
where
our
current
boundaries
lie.
V
So
we're
going
to
go
up
on
Nebraska
to
right
under
I-4
over
to
Orange
down
to
Cass
and
then
up
through
where
Tampa
Park
Apartments
were
so
a
lot
of
A
lot's
going
on
down
in
that
area,
because
a
lot
has
been
demolished
in
the
past
couple
decades.
So
here's
what
Google
shows
as
that
area,
where
Central
Park
is
they
call
it
South
Nebraska.
So
a
lot
of
folks
when
I
tell
them
well
we're
like
where
I
volunteer
with
they
asked
me
like.
Where
is
Central
Park?
Oh,
that's
where
the
projects
were?
V
Oh,
that's:
where
Central
Park
Village
was
that's
where
Central
Avenue
was
the
identity
of
this
area
has
kind
of
been
lost
throughout
the
years
and
if
you
notice,
it's
surrounded
by
a
lot
of
really
well-known
areas
like
Ebor,
Channelside
downtown
and
the
top
Air
was
supposed
to
be
pointing
towards
Tampa
Heights.
So
what
does
it
look
like
today?
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
been
down
to
walk
down
there.
We
actually
have
the
smallest
CRA,
so
the
boundaries
are
very
walkable.
Put
your
shoes
on
give
me
a
call.
V
I
would
love
to
walk
down
with
any
of
you
guys
or
if
you
would
like
to
take
Mr,
Hearns
or
Miss
Odom's
history
tours.
It's
amazing.
It
really
really
is
there's
so
much
to
learn
so
right
now,
I'll
give
you
an
update
on
what
is
going
on.
So
this
is
going
to
be
the
Encore
job
training
center.
That
was
built
a
few
years
ago
and
it's
actually
kind
of
set
vacant
for
a
while.
This
is
meant
to
help
postgraduate
high
school
students
with
job
training
and
job
placement.
V
From
my
understanding,
they're
able
to
go
there
primarily
in
food
service
industry
to
get
job
placement
and
job
training,
hopefully
in
Ybor,
so
we
can
have
a
lot
less
as
far
as
communicate
as
far
as
the
travel
time
goes
here,
a
lot
of
new
businesses
are
opening
up
in
a
lot
of
vacant
buildings,
so
the
jb3
dojo
recently
opened
up
on
Nebraska.
It's
going
to
be
right.
There
in
the
middle
definitely
recommend
checking
that
out.
This
has
been
a
building.
V
That's
been
vacant
for
quite
a
while
too
the
LA
satima
Club
just
opened
up,
and
there
it's
a
plant-based
menu
and
Wine
Bar.
This
is
interesting
as
well,
so
here
on,
the
corner
of
palm
and
Tolliver
are
going
to
be
the
Palm
Villa
hostels,
they're
actually
currently
for
sale
for
3.5
million
dollars.
There
are
three
buildings
that
consist
of
13
units,
so
maybe
something
that
I,
just
our
board,
suggested
to
look
into
as
far
as
maybe
affordable
housing
or
something
along
those
lines.
V
So
the
neighborhood
has
been
plagued
with
poorly
main
science
maintained.
Sidewalks
I
walk
this
boundary
a
lot
just
because
there's
always
so
much
going
on
down
in
there
that
I
want
to
keep
you
guys
abreast
of
what's
going
on
and
I'm,
also
just
always
wanting
to
know
so.
Here's
some
examples
of
some
of
the
sidewalks,
the
walkability
throughout
this
neighborhood,
and
this
is
common
throughout
the
entire
area.
V
Also
sections
of
the
CRA
that
are
in
need
of
regular
maintenance
and
litter
cleanup.
This
is
a
very
common
sight
to
see
while
walking
down
there
primarily
under
the
overpasses,
but
as
you'll
see
a
lot
of
houseless
folks
will
still
bag
the
garbage
up
and
set
it
on
the
side.
But
there's
just
nowhere
to
go.
Mattresses
are
thrown
out
there.
A
lot
of
the
times
garbage
is
broken
into
couches
are
left
under
the
overpasses.
V
Here's
one
area
that
I
think
is
really
interesting.
So
this
is,
if
you're
going
down
Central
you
walk
under
the
overpass.
On
the
left
hand,
side
where
that
gate
is,
that
is
a
Henderson
Avenue,
which
has
been
blocked,
blocked
off
for
many
many
years
in
the
research
that
I've
done
looks
like
some
developers
are
looking
to
reopen.
That
section
so
we'll
have
a
little
bit
more
smoother
walkability
from
neighborhood
to
neighborhood.
V
So
in
that
same
breath,
looking
at
these
overpasses
they're
poorly
lit,
this
entire
neighborhood
has
been
cut
off
by
I-270
by
I-4
and
275,
so
to
go
from
one
neighborhood
to
the
next.
More
often
than
not
you're
going
to
have
to
walk
under
one
of
these
overpasses
I,
don't
know
if
any
of
y'all
have
walked
on
there
lately,
but
it
is
not
a
pretty
sight.
It's
not
yeah.
It's
bad
in
order
to
promote
connection
of
the
neighborhoods
they'll
need
to
become
safer
walkways.
V
So
here's
an
example
of
what
they've
done
down
in
e-boards
I
think
maybe
prevent
that
a
little
bit
just
a
suggestion
that
maybe
we
could
look
into
that
as
well.
If
we
are
going
to
be
opening
up
Henderson
Avenue
to
create
more
walkability
and
also
at
night
time,
it's
not
very
well
written
I,
don't
know
I,
don't
like
being
down
there
at
night.
V
So
what
was
there
in
the
past
just
a
little
brief
history
on
there?
This
is
what
it
looked
like
in
Central
Park
in
the
1860s,
when
fried
slaves
were
first
able
to
occupy
this
territory
a
lot
of
times.
Multi-Generation
families
would
live
in
these
homes
that
had
no
plumbing
and
had
Community
outhouses.
So
this
is
what
the
area
looked
like
back
in
the
turn
of
the
century.
V
V
Here's
an
example
of
what
was
once
down
there,
one
of
the
buildings,
which
was
the
pyramid
hotel
that
was
located
on
the
1000
block
of
Central
Avenue
and
the
ladies
of
the
Rogers
dining
room
down
there.
So
the
community
really
came
from
nothing
and
built
up
to
really
be
something
until
the
opening
of
Central
Park
Village
in
1954.
This
is
what
it
looked
like.
V
Until
June
11
1967
at
6,
25
PM,
when
Martin
Chambers
was
a
19
year,
old
teenager
was
shot
in
the
back
by
police
officer
and
three
days
of
rioting
and
burning
of
lots
of
businesses
happen.
So
this
is
what
Central
Park
looked
like.
After
those
riots,
a
lot
of
the
businesses
were
lost.
The
National
Guard
was
called
in.
V
Another
example
of
a
building
that
was
once
there's
Meacham
High
School.
This
was
a
school
that
initially
the
CRA
was
promising.
I
believe
the
school
board
was
promising
to
rebuild
this
school's
still
not
been
rebuilt.
It's
been
20
plus
years.
I
know
that
the
family
was
really.
That
was
one
of
the
big
big
factors
for
them
that
they
were
okay
with
letting
that
go,
because
they
were
promised
that
this
school
was
going
to
be
rebuilt.
V
Now,
Meacham
Garden
is
currently
on
the
site
where
the
school
was
supposed
to
be
built,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
about
the
school
being
brought
back.
Here's
an
aerial
view
to
give
you
an
idea
of
when
Central
Park
Village
was
demolished.
The
blue
arrow
is
pointing
towards
Pastor
Frank's
Paradise
Baptist
Church,
which
is
now
pink,
but
just
to
give
you
an
idea
and
then,
where
the
little
brushes
on
the
middle
section,
that's
where
the
St
James
Church
currently
stands.
V
So
here's
Paradise
Baptist
Church,
still
there
councilman,
Goods
you've
went
down
there
with
us
to
see
the
museum
I,
don't
know
if
anyone
else
on
Council
has
been
down
in
that
basement.
It
is
amazing.
The
amount
of
artifacts
and
history
that
Pastor
Frank
has
down
there
is
fantastic,
but
I'll
tell
you
it's
extremely
sad,
because
you
can
see
right
here
how
that
door
is
knocked
and
rodents
are
going
in
there.
The
entire
Place
smells
of
rat
feces
rat
urine.
V
V
This
is
going
to
be
an
example
right
here
of
the
St
James
Church,
which
is
supposed
to
is
slated
to
actually
be
an
African-American
history
museum.
So
that's
like
I
said
this
was
one
of
the
only
buildings
that
was
saved
when
they
tore
down
all
of
Central
Park
Village.
Here's
another
example
of
two
probably
of
two:
the
only
original
remaining
scrub
homes
on
East,
Scott
Street,
and
these
were
recently
purchased
by
the
Housing
Authority
I've
actually
got
a
chance
to
go
inside
both
of
them
and
they're,
not
that
bad.
V
They
really
aren't
I
think
that
both
of
them
could
definitely
be
saved
and
that's
like
I
said.
That's
just
one
part
of
you
know
the
scrubs
history.
That's
still
remaining.
Here's
an
example
of
some
new
construction,
new
apartments
that
are
being
built.
You
can
see
right
here.
This
is
going
to
be
on
Harrison
and
Central.
V
This
is
going
to
be
on
governor
also
to
update
you.
The
Tampa
Park
apartments
that
are
across
the
street
on
Nebraska
are
currently
being
demolished
to
make
way
for
the
gasworks
project.
You
can
see
right
here
the
remaining
buildings
on
the
right
and
then
the
new
construction
on
the
left
promising
to
be
delivered
by
2024..
You
can
see
all
of
this.
This
is
I
had
to
kind
of
reach
over
with
my
cell
phone
over
the
the
chain
link
fence
to
get
you
guys
a
good
shot.
V
This
is
right
here
in
Perry,
Harvey
Park.
When
we
first
started
the
CRA
the
city
did
in
2006.
This
area
was
slated
to
be
a
band
shelter
that
you
can
see
right
here
where
they've
actually
dropped
the
concrete,
but
nothing
has
ever
made
its
way
since
then,
and
speaking
with
a
lot
of
residents.
V
That's
the
one
thing
that
they
were
still
hoping
that
that
promise
would
be
kept
up
on
there.
Here's
an
example
of
some
of
the
graffiti
and
vandalism.
That's
been
done
to
some
of
the
murals
in
Perry
Harvey
Park
talking
with
Mr
Hearns.
He
was
mentioning
that
the
folks
that
made
these
murals,
who
knows,
if
they'll,
be
able
to
even
replace
that
you
know
and
from
what
I
heard
from
him.
It
was
within
like
weeks
of
that,
Park
first
opening
up
that
people
were
already
vandalizing
a
lot
of
this
history.
V
V
So,
what's
next,
so
the
Gas
Works
canvas
City
Townhomes
are
slated
to
be
built
here.
They
are
going
to
range
from
2100
to
2400
square
feet
at
a
price
of
705
to
775
000.
So
a
far
cry
from
what
the
humble
beginnings
has
started,
with
more
examples
of
the
same
renderings
for
these
here's
another
one
from
a
Miami
based
developer,
they
have
it
slated
to
have
a
369
luxury
apartments,
with
a
178
Key
hotel,
32,
000
square
feet
of
retail
space
and
a
large
parking
Podium.
V
V
V
Here's
the
Muse
it
was
purchased
by
the
Patel
Family
Foundation.
This
is
going
to
be
also
a
micro
units,
mixed-use
luxury
apartment
development,
mixed
use,
apartment
development,
market
rate
units
and
retail
space,
and
then
lastly,
this
is
the
this
is
the
development
that
I
had
mentioned
about
connecting
Harrison
Street
right
there.
V
This
is
going
to
be
built
on
the
other
side
right
by
where
GTE
is
so
on
the
other
side
of
that,
so
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
money
in
our
budget
for
a
long
time,
because
we
haven't
had
a
lot
of
activity
going
on
now
we
have
so
much
activity,
that's
going
on
so
many
millions
of
dollars
that
are
coming
into
this
neighborhood.
So
this
is
the
opportunity
for
the
CAC
and
for
the
CRA
to
listen
to
the
community
to
ask
what
do
you
want
to
be
put
in
here?
V
What
do
you?
How
do
you
want
this
neighborhood
to
to
be
remembered?
And
now
we
have
the
funds
to
do
it?
So,
hopefully,
hopefully,
our
strategic
plan,
with
it
being
upcoming
Rewritten,
will
be
able
to
include
a
lot
of
those.
So
any
questions.
M
Your
cre
director
for
Central,
what
are
we
doing
with
Paradise
that
we
are
we
still
talking
to
Pastor
Frank
and
his
daughters?
Where
were.
V
We
that's
confusing
so
yes,
Pastor,
Frank's
daughters,
I've,
been
in
contact
with
from
my
understanding.
Pastor
Frank
may
have
signed
some
new
members
onto
the
corporation
or
the
LLC
that
paradise
is
owned
by
in
the
recent
last
couple
years.
So
I
don't
know
if
he's
trying
to
make
a
deal
with
them,
but
the
communication
between
his
daughters
and
myself
has
been
fairly
minimal.
What.
W
M
W
V
V
I'm
still
trying
to
councilman
Goods,
like
I,
said
I'm
in
contact
with
his
family
members.
It's
a
it's
a
matter
of
trust.
To
be
honest,
I
can
tell
you
for
a
fact.
It's
about
trust
and
I
know
that
and
I
know
that
Pastor
Frank,
with
the
relationship
that
I
had
built
with
him
over
the
years,
has
taken
a
long
time
to
really
gain
that
trust
and
for
his
daughters
to
gain
the
trust
as
well
and
I
know
that
when
I
spoke
with
him
about,
you
know
St
James,
being
a
potential
Museum.
V
He
didn't
even
want
to
offer
any
of
his
items
to
go
in
there
because
he
he
feels
slated.
You
know,
and-
and
it's
it's
that
that's
where
it's
at
so
the
conversations
that
I've
had
with
his
family
were
kind
of
ambiguous
at
first
as
to
whether
or
not
somebody
else
had
bought
it.
If
they
wanted
to
currently
sell
it,
and
it
was
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
run
around.
So
we
did
a
time.
We
looked
up
the
title
on
there
and
we
looked
up
on
sunbiz
and
then
that's
how
we
got
to.
X
V
X
Illustrator,
at
least
from
good,
you
know,
for
the
record:
councilman
I
did
meet
with
Mr
with
Pastor
Williams
as
well,
and
we
had
this
entire
conversation
about
the
title
his
daughter's
following
up.
So
there
are
issues
right
and
we've
had
this
communication.
It
does
not
help
us
to
have
volunteer
members
going
back
and
attempting
to
negotiate
this
stuff
right.
So
I
respect
the
cacs
for
all
the
work
that
they
do.
But
when
staff
is
trying
to
work
on
items
right,
it
does
create
that
level
of
conflict.
X
So
if
there's
some
direction
that
they
would
like
staff
to
take,
they
need
to
run
that
through
their
CRA
manager,
so
that
we
can
follow
up
and
take
that
action.
But
whatever
information
is
discovered,
whatever
information
that
we
can
bring
back
and
meet
with
our
attorneys
to
discuss,
that's
pertinent
information
and
we
can
try
to
work
through
these
processes,
but
it
is
private.
X
M
Would
hope
we
do
that
because
I
mean
me
going
and
visiting
that
playway
again,
my
god
brother,
who
passed
away
the
first
I
had
ever
been
in
that
church
I
used
to
be
the
old
Allen's
Temple.
My
brother
was
utilizing
that
church
and
so
I
know
the
history
of
that
church.
But
when
I
go
inside
that
church
and
I
see
the
real
history
of
what
Pastor
Frank
has
in
that
church,
it's
like.
M
Why
is
this
stuff
not
somewhere
to
be
preserved
for
black
history,
black
culture
and
when
you
look
at
this
stuff,
it's
like
amazing
and
you're
right,
I
I
would
hate
for
this
stuff
to
keep
being
destroyed
deteriorate
because
a
mildew
mold
it's
like
this
stuff
is
I
mean
this
stuff
is
outstanding
and
that's
why
I
put
you
on
the
staff
to
make
sure
we
were
aggressive
on
this
and
I
understand
you
try
to
help
out,
but
but
again
I'm
hoping
we
like
Mr
brimco,
said
we
revisit
that
and
get
with
the
board
and
get
with
Mr
the
pastor
and
actually
get
a
meeting
with
the
board,
because
you
know
Mr,
Pastor
Frank
is
elderly.
M
Now
so,
let's
see
who
the
board
is
and
get
with
the
board
and
Pastor
Frank
and
make
sure
that
whatever
we
need
to
do
is
write
and
just
for
him
that
way,
he
trusts,
because
he
he
he's
old,
older
old
original.
He
doesn't
trust
at
times
and
I
can
understand
why
he
doesn't
trust
so
I'm,
hoping
that
Mr
drum
go
to
you
and
staff
could
get
a
meeting
with
the
board
of
the
LLC
yeah,
because
I
know
you
work
hard.
I
know
you
work
hard,
but
I
can
see
it
frustrating
to
you.
M
But
again
we
appreciate
your
efforts,
but
this
is
something
that
we
had
asked
staff
to
really
be
aggressive
on.
But
thank
you
again
for
your.
V
Effort
and
I
do
apologize
in
no
way
was
I
trying
to
interfere.
I
was
doing
my
best
to
contact
neighbors
to
get
their
information
to
share
with
Jeff
and
with
everyone,
so
in
no
way
am
I
trying
to
be
a
menace
or
a
pest.
It's
just
when
we're
not
hearing
our
Sierra,
not
hearing
anything,
then
it's
I,
basically
I'm
an
effort
that
I
said
hey.
You
know
this
is
our
last
like
I'm,
not
gonna,
keep
bugging
you
about
this
that
that's
where
it
was
coming
from.
It's
only
coming
from
the
absolute
best.
V
C
Carlson
yeah
on
that
point,
could
I
I
won't
make
a
motion,
but
could
could
we
just
ask
staff
to
work
with
board
member
Goods?
He
has
like
two
more
weeks
and
these
things
seem
to
take
a
long
time.
I
know
that
you
all
push
hard
but
I
I
I
would
just
ask
that
we,
because
of
the
unique
experience
and
background
relationships
that
board
member
guts.
Has
that
may
be.
C
Staff
could
include
him
in
the
next
week
or
two
to
meet
with
everybody
and
try
to
negotiate
something
and
then
and
then
present
back
the
second
thing
and
and
it's
the
same
issue
with
the
Jackson
house.
By
the
way
you
know,
I
was
on
the
with
a
group,
2013
I
think
it
was,
and
we
were
talking
to
Willie
Robinson
and
it
was
all
the
same
concerns
and
we
were
working
with
family
and
everything.
C
It
ended
up
in
a
foundation
which,
in
my
opinion,
hasn't
done
very
much
and
they
don't
allow
the
city
to
do
anything
to
fix
it
and,
besides,
looking
at
imminent
domain
for
the
land
around
it,
we
need
to
maybe
look
at
imminent
domain
for
the
building
itself.
I
know,
USF
and
and
History
Center
have
been
involved.
Jeff
Phoenix
people
have
been
involved,
but
the
the
the
reputation
of
the
community
is
the
foundation
doesn't
want
to
do
anything
to
save
it.
C
We
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
save
that
building
and
and
just
for
anybody
watching
if
it
gets
torn
down
I'm
going
to
do
everything
I
can
to
make
sure
it's
rebuilt
in
the
same
place
so
that
nobody
can
expect
that
it'll
fall
down
and
they'll
be
able
to
develop
that
land,
but
we
need
to
save
these
historic
buildings,
and
you
showed
some
others
that
maybe
we
should
talk
about
I
would
like
to
if,
if
my
aide
Andrew
is
watching,
maybe
he
could
get
your
contact
information
and
I'd
like
to
sit
down
with
you
and
talk
to
you
about
some
of
these
other
properties.
C
I
know
one
developer
is
going
to
dominate
all
this
and
I
know
there
was
a
proposal
to
put
baseball
just
north
of
this
District.
If
that
it
sounds
like
that
proposal
is
off
the
table.
So
if
it
is,
that
opens
up
a
lot
of
opportunity
it.
C
The
money
was
never
committed
to
that,
but
but
at
least
it
takes
that
off
the
table
in
the
in
the
negotiation
process,
to
figure
out
what
we
could
do
and
I
think
it's
important
to
to
maintain
some
of
the
history
and
culture
there
so
that
we
can
tell
the
stories
to
Future
Generations.
Thank
you.
A
H
Again,
hello
item
number
two:
we
have
Christine
finchy
here
to
present
on
the
proposal
for
rebricking
Seventh,
Avenue
she's
with
wsp
and
she'll.
She
has
a
PowerPoint
that
we
submitted
for
you.
I
also
want
to
apologize
to
the
PowerPoint
that
you
just
saw
was
not
submitted,
so
I
need
to
make
sure
that
the
clerk
has
a
copy
of
it
for
the
record.
Okay,.
U
A
Yes,
board
member.
C
Was
was
WSB
hired
by
the
CRA
or
or
by.
Y
Y
If
I
can
get
this
to
work,
the
Ebor
Community
advisory
committee,
the
CAC
partner
with
the
city
of
Tampa
Mobility,
can
you
can
you
please
give
us
your
name,
I'm,
sorry
for
the
representatives,
Christine
fancy
I'm
with
wsp
Consulting?
Thank
you
yeah,
so
the
Ebor
City
advisory
committee,
the
CAC
partnered
with
the
city
of
Tampa
mobility
department
to
investigate
the
cost
of
re-bricking
7th
Avenue.
This
is
one
of
their
Community
priority.
Actions
from
the
vision
2020
plan
would
be
from
Nick
nichio
Parkway
to
26th
Street.
Y
The
stakeholders
we
worked
with
were
the
CAC,
of
course,
the
mobility
department,
the
Barrio
Latino
Commission
down
in
Ybor
just
talking
through
the
process.
This
report
is
just
one
very
first
initial
step
in
a
long
process
to
get
the
rebricking
completed.
So
just
going
through
we're
going
to
finalize
the
report
this
month.
After
speaking
to
you,
then
the
CAC
will
program
funds.
Hopefully
this
month
bring
it
to
the
CRA.
Y
The
CRA
will
be
presented
with
that
in
July
then
go
to
City
commission
for
approval,
hopefully
in
August,
then
they'll
need
to
advertise
for
design
design
takes
six
to
nine
months.
That
puts
us
to
the
end
of
this
year.
Then
the
design
itself
takes
about
nine
months.
That's
fall
of
next
year.
Then
you
in
concurrence
with
the
Barrio
Latino
Commission
approval
would
happen
during
design.
Then
you
would
advertise
for
construction
a
few
months
and
then
construction
itself,
so
we're
looking.
If
we
were
to
approve
funding
it
would
happen,
it
would
be
constructed
Christmas
of
25.
Y
So
looking
at
that
timeline.
So
what
do
we
have?
We
started
off
with
what
do
we
have
in
Ebor?
As
you
can
see
here,
we
have
six
main
types
of
Ebor,
brick
over
100
years
old,
they're,
all
different
shapes
sizes
and
colors,
all
different
embellishments
we've
got
the
Augusta
Southern
clay,
Baltimore,
brick,
The,
Grove,
galima,
Copeland
English
and
the
Augusta
block
and
they're
all
unique,
of
course,
and
there's
a
really
nice
mixture.
Y
Y
The
city
just
said
two
things
make
sure
you
save
stockpiles,
so
we
can
use
it
for
ongoing
maintenance
when
we
need
it
for
repairs
and
then
also
we'd
like
to
minimize
the
use
of
historic
brick
in
crosswalks
due
to
Ada
and
making
sure
we're
meeting
the
the
disability
needs
and
not
having
issues
there.
So
these
were
the
the
thoughts.
So
now
we
know
we
don't
have.
Unfortunately,
we
don't
have
enough
Ebor
brick
to
do
the
hole.
So
what
do
we
do
next?
So
we
looked
into
the
two
alternatives:
one
is
reclaimed.
Y
The
other
is
replica
pros
and
cons
to
each
reclaimed,
of
course,
is
going
and
reclaiming
brick
from
other
cities
or
other
areas
that
have
historic
roadways
that
they
are
taking
out.
The
pro
to
this
is
that
it
looks
the
most
historic
right
it
looks
and
feels
like
historic
brick
that
matches
the
historic
nature
of
Ebor.
Y
Unfortunately,
the
con
is
that
that
quantity
is
a
lot,
and
so
what
I
heard
from
vendors
was
it's
going
to
be
really
hard
to
get
170
000
square
feet
from
another
agency
in
a
hole,
so
you'd
have
to
order
separate
orders
and
then
stockpile
it.
So
that's
going
to
be
an
issue,
those
might
look
different,
feel
different,
and
then,
where
do
you
stockpile
it?
You
know:
how
do
we
phase
it?
It
might
take
longer
opposite
to.
Y
Y
The
con
is
that
it
just
doesn't
look
as
historic
as
the
replica.
The
reclaimed
excuse
me.
So
these
are
the
two
options
that
we
investigated,
who
are
the
vendors
for
the
most
part,
the
reclaimed,
vendors
or
Gavin
Columbia
and
EBS,
and
the
replica
brick.
Even
though
there's
dozens
of
replica
brick
vendors,
we
narrowed
it
down
to
these
four
build
an
Endicott
Pine,
Hall
and
Whitaker
Greer,
who
are
available
to
do
the
street
brick
that
you
need
to
take
on
the
heavy
loads.
Y
Y
How
do
they
make
the
new
bricks?
Look
old,
there's
four
ways:
the
the
bricks
they
make
before
they
fire
them.
They
what
they
call
is
they
Rumble
them
to
get
the
edges
kind
of
look,
you
know
tattered
and
then
they
fire
them,
and
then
they
tumble
them.
After
so,
you
can
see
like
in
the
corners
of
the
top
right
picture,
how
the
edges
aren't
perfect
so
that
it
looks
a
little
bit
historic.
The
second
thing
is,
you
can
use
different
colors
as
I
showed
you.
Y
Y
Embossing
is
the
bottom
right
picture
where
you
can
see
where
they
stamped
Tampa
into
the
brick,
and
you
would
do
this,
maybe
in
like
10
of
the
brick
just
to
give
it
a
little
bit
of
flare.
As
you
can
see
on
that
first
slide,
every
Ebor
brick
had
an
embellishment
on
it.
Of
the
maker,
like
the
Augusta
block,
has
the
Augusta
embellishment.
The
embellishment
is
raised
like
the
picture
on
the
top
right.
This
is
an
example
from
Saint
Augustine
Florida,
where
they
put
the
date
again.
Y
This
would
only
be
like
10
of
the
bricks,
so
it
wouldn't
be
every
single
brick
and
then
a
fourth
thing
we
thought
about
was
maybe
doing
a
little
bit
of
reveal
or
doing
a
different
height
of
brick
to
make
it
look,
not
perfect
and
new,
and
you
know
make
it
look
more
historic.
So
that's
another
option
that
we
looked
at
making-
maybe
some
of
the
bricks
a
little
bit
taller,
maybe
an
eighth
of
an
inch
just
a
slight
enough,
so
that
it
would
look
imperfect.
So
it
looked
more
historic.
Y
So
these
are
ways
we
can
make
the
replica
brick
look
old.
So
what's
our
typical
section
look
like
in
order
to
do
the
quantities
and
the
costs
and
everything
we
had
to
understand
the
square
footage
so
right
now
in
Ebor,
you've
got
concrete,
sidewalks
and
curves
on
both
sides.
You've
also
got
a
concrete
parking
aisle.
All
of
that
would
stay
in
place.
We
would
just
take
the
center
roadway
the
24
feet
of
driving
surface
basically
and
take
away
the
asphalt
and
re-brick
it
that
would
require
doing
about
nine
inches
of
stabilized
base.
Y
Excuse
me,
12
inches
nine
inches
of
the
crushed
concrete
to
make
a
really
good
foundation.
Then
your
three
inch
bricks
with
the
sand.
We
also
add,
as
you
can
see,
on
the
edges,
an
18
inch
concrete
header
curve.
We
recommend
that
so
that
you
don't
have
any
turning
of
the
brick
making
sure
that
everything
really
stays
in
place
for
the
longevity
of
this
project.
Y
So
we
looked
at
six
alternatives
to
give
the
CRA
options
of
cost
and
feasibility
and
what
they
feel
is
viable.
The
first
we
looked
at
was
reclaimed
brick
for
the
whole
Corridor.
Second
replica
for
the
whole
Corridor
third
was
reclaimed
for
inside
the
crosswalks,
with
replica
for
the
crosswalks,
because
the
city
directive
of
of
using
flush,
brick,
alternative
four,
was
replica
brick
full
intersections,
including
crosswalks.
Five
was
crosswalks
only
and
then
six
was
an
alternative
to
try
to
utilize
some
Ebor
brick.
Y
Y
One
thing
that
we
noticed
during
the
investigation
was
that
20th
Street
was
the
only
street
that
was
a
little
bit
unique.
It
has
these
Center
medians
that
used
to
be
there
that
they
took
out.
You
can
see
the
yellow
striping
is
there
now
so
when
we
go
to
re-brick
that
there's
really
no
use
in
like
repainting
that
yellow
so
we
thought
we'd
just
make
it
right
and
move
the
curbs
while
we're
doing
some
construction
widen
the
sidewalks,
add
the
Ada
curbs
and
then
put
in
tree
Wells
and
lighting.
Y
Y
You
know
all
the
excavation
that
we
need
to
get
that
20,
inches
plus
of
foundation
right
plus
the
brick
costs
include
not
only
the
materials
but
the
labor
and
the
delivery
of
those
bricks
added
10
for
mobilization,
15
for
engineering,
eight
for
inspection
services
during
construction
traffic
control,
obviously
as
a
percentage
and
then
contingency
we
put
a
healthy
contingency
just
because
of
the
unknowns,
but
also
because,
unfortunately,
we've
seen
so
much
inflation.
Lately,
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
a
healthy
contingency
at
25
percent.
Y
So
each
of
the
costs
include
all
of
these
things
and
here's
a
one
of
the
charts
that
I
put
together.
It's
an
itemized.
The
CRA
will
have
this
as
a
tool.
If
anything
ever
changes
they
can
just
plug
and
play
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
that
we
estimated
everything
in
unit
costs
to
come
up
with
the
the
dollar
amounts.
Y
So
where
do
we?
Where
do
we
end
up?
So
the
six
Alternatives
here
are
shown
with
the
estimated
costs
on
the
right,
so
alternative
one
was
fully
reclaimed
for
12.,
fully
replica
alternative,
2
11.2.
If
we
do
reclaimed
inside
replica
on
the
crosswalks,
it's
4.3
and
then
replica
crosswalks
is
about
six
excuse
me
replica
intersections.
The
six
replica
crosswalks
only
is
1.3
at
the
least
expensive
because
of
the
least
square
feet,
and
then
the
alternative
six
that
includes
the
Ebor
brick
for
two
blocks.
Y
Y
Unfortunately,
most
of
those
are
for
safety
for
Transit
and
there's
a
lot
of
money
for
electric
charging
all
of
a
sudden.
So
those
don't
apply,
unfortunately,
to
this
Corridor,
but
we
did
find
three
that
that
do
have
potential.
The
two
best
are
State
historic
preservation,
office,
Grant
funds.
There's
one
called
Main,
Street
Grants
it's
for
design,
so
that
would
obviously
be
for
your
engineering
phase.
Y
They'll
match
up
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
dollar
for
dollar,
and
then
you
could
also
apply
for
the
construction
shippo
Grant,
which
is
up
to
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
dollar
for
dollar.
So
you
could
go
after
both
when
I
talked
to
their
office.
They
said
they
would
encourage
you
to
go
after
both.
Actually
so
that's
good
news.
The
other
thing
was.
We
thought
that
resilient
Florida
has
a
lot
of
money
coming
in
Tampa's,
doing
some
really
great
work
with
resiliency,
and
so
we
could
go
after
that.
Y
The
only
caveat
is
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
include
water
quality
and
storm
water
improvements.
Maybe
get
a
little
bit
more
creative
than
what's
out
there
right
now,
so
you
might
have
to
pay
a
little
bit
more
in
engineering,
but
you'd
be
able
to
get
a
larger
gram,
so
that
would
be
about
two
million
dollars
a
dollar
for
a
dollar,
but
we
have
to
show
storm
water
and
water
quality
improvements
with
the
project.
Y
So
where
do
we
end
up?
We
met
with
the
CAC
twice
once
in
October
and
January
went
round
and
round,
but
the
onus
was
that
they
really
wanted
the
entire
corridor
bricked
and
they
really
wanted
it
as
looking
as
historic
as
possible.
So
I
come
to
you
with
two
Alternatives
alternative
one.
They
really
liked
an
alternative
six
alternative.
One,
of
course,
is
reclaimed
bricks,
since
we
don't
have
enough
Ebor
for
the
whole
corridor
to
do
the
whole
thing.
Y
K
You
very
much
that's
the
most
in-depth
presentation
I've
ever
seen
regarding
re-breaking
the
streets
in
Ybor
I
brought
this
up
in
conversation
casually
at
the
Tropicana
and
Ybor
when
it
was
when
it
was
there
I,
don't
know
2015
2016,
and
you
know
it's
a
shame
that
in
the
1960s
under
the
new
show
Administration
in
the
era
of
urban
renewal
that
they
pulled
up
all
the
brick.
K
They
just
put
asphalt,
I
wish
and
I
can't
go
back
in
time.
I
wish
it
would
just
would
have
put
asphalt
over
the
brick
which
we've
seen
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
and
then
we
wouldn't
have
you
know
such
complications
and
the
costs,
because
I
know
you
can
Mill
asphalt
and
at
least
try
to
preserve.
What's
underneath
I
know
that
in
past
administrations,
a
lot
of
our
bricks
were
sold
to
Winter,
Park
and
I,
don't
know
how
much
Winter
Park
has
in
their
stockpile.
K
K
We
don't
know
so
we
are
at
this
point
within
this
National
Historic
Landmark
District,
because
this
is
within
the
most
important
Corridor,
which
is
7th
Avenue,
but
I've
always
believed
in
originality,
you
know
or
the
patina
or
how
something
ages
and
it
adds
to
the
beauty.
In
this
case,
though,
we
have
30
something
thousand
square
feet
of
brick
in
our
supply
and
we
needed
170
or
whatever
thousand
square
feet.
K
We
have
other
parts
of
the
city
with
brick
roads,
so
we
don't
want
to
deplete
our
existing
Supply
because
we've
given
a
lot
away,
we've
sold
a
lot.
So
we
need
to
maintain
that
the
original
stuff,
however
I've,
never
seen
the
comparison
of
original
brick
and
then
replica
brick
and
how
they
age
it
and
how
they
age,
you
know
the
edges
and
how
they
do
the
color
matching
and
the
color
changes.
I.
K
I,
like
that
I
like
the
the
replica
brick
with
The
Branding,
because
again
it's
The
Branding
of
Ybor,
City
I
know
it's
not
original,
but
it's
convincing.
It's
cheaper,
it's
consistent
all
throughout
and
we
get
that
same,
feel
we're
not
going
to
have
those
Granite
curbs
like
we
did
because
there's
been
updates
in
the
90s
and
early
2000s
and
he
were
on
7th
Avenue
we're
not
going
to
have
the
streetcar
track
that
ran
down
the
middle
because
that
was
pulled
up
years
ago.
K
However,
I
think
it
matches
or
closely
matches
the
character
of
the
neighborhood.
We
have
the
brick
look.
We
have
easier
and
cheaper
maintenance.
We
have
a
cheaper
cost,
even
though
you
could
say
well,
it's
just
under
2
million
dollars
difference,
but
it's
a
an
easier
task
to
undertake
and
for
maintenance
for
replacement
in
the
future.
We
have
existing
manufacturers
that
we
can
buy
directly
from
for
any
major
issues.
Another
thing
is
storm.
Water
improvements,
I
think
were
mentioned
there
regarding
the
matching
grants.
K
K
E
K
Oh,
the
entire
city,
Paving
budget.
You
know
it
would
cost
to
to
do
this.
However,
you
know
we're
in
the
CRA,
so
we
can
look
at
CRA
funds.
We
can
look
at
these
matching
grants
that
you
talked
about,
and
we
can,
you
know,
try
to
reduce
the
cost
and
the
burden
while
maintaining
this
historic,
very
important,
historic
character
of
this
of
this
neighborhood
there's
a
movie
that
was
done
a
few
years
ago,
called
live
by
night
and
it
wasn't
filmed
in
Ybor
City.
K
They
filmed
it
in
Brunswick
Georgia
because
of
film
credits,
and
it
was
cheaper
and
one
of
the
biggest
mistakes
in
that
movie
when
they
showed
Ybor
City,
it
was
dirt
roads,
Ybor
city
was
dirt
roads
in
the
1880s.
You
know
I,
believe
or
even
before,
before
they
started
bricking,
so
the
bricks
are
so
significant
and
important
to
the
to
the
character
of
this
neighborhood
and
again.
Thank
you
very
much.
This
is
very
detailed,
great
work
and
I
appreciate
all
that.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
board,
member
Miranda.
O
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'm,
not
an
expert
on
bricks,
but
I
was
on
the
council.
When
that
Exodus
of
bricks
were
sold
to
Winter,
Haven
or
Winter
Garden
I
forget
which
city
it
was,
and
we
stopped
that
right
away.
No
more,
there's
a
difference
in
the
weight
of
that
brick.
I.
Think
the
original
brick
to
the
bricks
are
now
I.
I
should
see
one
of
those
bricks
and
carry
I
could
hardly
pick
it
up.
O
When
I
was
a
teenager,
I
mean
they
weighed
a
lot
and
I
guess
they
were
about
three
and
a
half
inches
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
certain,
and
they
had
a
name
on
it.
They
had
some
something
on
it
that
I
don't
recall
what
it
was,
but
I
remember
something
being
on
them,
and
why
did
that
last
so
long?
Well,
we
think
the
brink
were
better.
Maybe
they
were,
but
let's
face
reality.
During
that
era
you
had
street
cars.
Okay,
they
weren't
on
the
bricks
they
were
running
on
the
rail.
O
You
had
a
lot
of
automobiles,
but
not
as
many
as
we
have
now,
and
there
were
what
much
lighter
they
had.
You
had
to
crank
them
up
by
yourself
with
a
hang
thing
you
had.
That
was
your
crank
and
you
didn't
have
automatic
starters
at
that
time.
It
came
in
in
the
30s
and
40s,
and
all
these
things
came
about,
so
the
streets
were
fairly
well
kept
without
maintenance
to
any
degree,
because
the
vehicles
that
were
on
them
were
much
lighter.
You
didn't
have
semis
coming
through
you're.
O
Both
sleep
like
you
do
now
emptying
their
goods
at
the
stores
that
are
there
and
operating
as
a
business.
Thank
God
they're
doing
good,
and
these
are
the
things
that
I
see.
So
in
myself,
I'm
thinking
self,
have
you
looked
somewhere
else?
What
countries
have
bricks
that
still
manufacture
them?
Is
it
Mexico?
Is
it
Colombia?
Is
it
Nicaragua?
Is
it
somewhere
in
the
country
or
in
this
world
that
manufacture?
O
Because
once
you
start
buying
bricks-
and
you
only
buy
so
many
and
the
next
one
I
made
later
on,
they
might
not
have
a
same
color
ration.
You
should
buy
all
the
bricks
if
you
can't
possibly
the
170
000
that
you
need
for
that
I'm,
not
a
neck.
Brick
expert
I,
don't
plan
to
be,
but
I
did
know
the
family
called
kelly,
Brick
Company.
They
were
out
of
New
Jersey
and
you
know
who
was
his
two
daughters.
J
O
Elizabeth
Kelly
and
what
was
the
actress
name,
Grace,
Kelly
and
I
had
the
honor
of
working
with
one
of
them
husband.
He
did
the
same
thing
that
I
did
he
judged
horse
racing
in
the
state
of
Pennsylvania,
so
I
used
to
visit
them
quite
often
once
in
a
while,
not
often,
but
once
in
a
while,
and
they
would
come
here
and
I.
Remember:
Grace,
Kelly
sister,
you
know
she'd
like
to
be
that
the
Pancake
House,
so
we
used
to
go
to
the
Pancake
House.
So
these
are
the
things
that
I
remember.
O
Very
nice
people
very
down
to
earth
I
never
asked
her.
What
kind
of
bridge
or
father
manufactured
but
I
know
there's
other
companies
that
manufacture
bricks
somewhere
in
this
great
country,
but
again
I'm
not
trying
to
ask
you
or
anyone
what
to
do,
but
I
would
try
to
get
something
that
matches
the
whole
thing
at
once.
There
may
be
production
of
so
many,
but
the
production
Mill
hasn't
changed
because
once
it
changes
you're
going
to
have
color
decorations
to
some
degree,
and
it
will
show
now
when
you
buy
them,
but
after
you
install
them.
O
So
that's
why
they
lasted
so
long.
They
didn't
have
the
weight
that
these
bricks
had
and
it
do
had.
In
fact,
the
airport
city
is
one
of
the
highest
locations
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
the
elevation
wise.
So
if
it
floods
here
it
may
not
flood
there.
Thank
God
I
hope
it
doesn't
fly
anywhere,
but
these
are
the
things
that
I,
remember
and
I
have
one
brick
at
the
house:
I,
don't
know
where
it's
from,
but
I
remember
having
one
brick
and
I'm
going
to
try
to
find
it.
O
But
thank
you
for
what
you've
done
now
your
questions
and
your
your
demeanorism.
The
way
you
present
yourself
Christina
is
very
upbeat
with
me
and
I
appreciate
everything
you're
doing
and
let's
continue
to
get
this
done.
You
can
have
anything
you
want
in
life,
but
you
can't
forget
where
you
come
from
all
of
us,
not
me
all
of
us
and
what
was
there
and
how
was
there
and
how
did
the
people
do
what
we
think
now
we
can't
live
without
this?
O
E
O
Not
made
here
it's
low
quality
and
all
these
rings
that
I
wear
that
look
nice
they're,
not
real
I,
couldn't
afford
the
rings
that
I
have
that
are
real,
so
I'm
telling
you
by
the
bricks
that
are
good,
even
if
you
can
pay
a
couple
of
pennies
more
because
it'll
last
much
longer.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
you
being
here.
Thank.
C
Yeah
I
think
this
is
a
an
important
project
and
I
appreciate
my
colleagues
leadership.
Whoever
split
on
this
in
the
past
and
I
know
once
I
heard
the
idea
I've
been
pushing
for
as
well
could
I
just
ask
you
real
fast,
your
your
company.
Could
you
tell
us
what
I
what
your
I
know
you
guys
are
worldwide,
but
what
what
is
some
of
your
experience
in
Florida
or
in
the
United
States,
or
maybe
some
other
places
on
bricking?
Have
you
do
you
guys
have
direct
experience
on
this
in
other
places?
So.
Y
So
wsp,
yes,
is
an
international
engineering,
consulting
firm,
mostly
civil
engineering.
I.
Personally,
am
a
professional
engineer
in
Florida
been
doing
it
for
23
years,
mostly
complete
streets,
work
and
roadway
design
and
sidewalk
walkability,
but
not
a
lot
of
breaking
tier,
but
our
company
has
a
construction
wing,
and
so
I
was
able
to
partner
with
them
on.
Constructability
are.
Y
Would
have
to
look
into
that
to
cancel
that
question,
sir.
C
Okay,
the
the
Saint
Augustine
one,
just
as
an
example,
they
have
Parts
where
they've
used
New
Brick
and
they
they
made
complete
streets
out
of
it.
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
that
I,
don't
think
that
would
quite
work
here,
but
it's
just
another
idea
where
one
of
the
problems
on
7th
Avenue
is
speeding
and
when
the
bricks
are
there,
I
think
people
will
slow
down.
C
The
other
problem
is
sound
because
they
they
like
to
share
their
music
with
us
all,
but
there
might
be
some
idea
embedded
in
that
to
be
able
to
to
help,
but
the
other
thing
that
happens
in
St
Augustine,
the
city
manager
told
me,
is
that
tourists
like
to
steal
the
bricks
so
like
at
night,
they'll
go
and
dig
them
out,
and
so
one
concern
I
have
about
The.
Branding
of
them
is,
is
that
people
just
start
stealing
them
as
souvenirs?
C
So
we
need
to
work
with
whoever's,
running
the
visitor
center
and
make
sure
we're
selling
them
also
so
that
people
don't
just
steal
them.
The
the
other
thing
is
one
of
the
big
developers
in
Ebor.
Has
his
own
stockpile
bricks,
I,
don't
know
whether
he's
planning
on
giving
them
or
selling
them
at
discount
something,
but
did
you
incorporate
that
in
into
your
numbers.
Y
So
I
did
speak
to
the
developer
pretty
much
about
a
month
ago,
and
he
mentioned
that.
He
was
very
in
favor
of
the
the
Salvage
bricks
to
your
point
and
that
he
was
kind
of
taking
that
on
his
own
yeah.
C
He
was
figuring
just
from
the
place
that
he
bought
it
from
the
city
stockpile
what
he
had
already
and
the
places
he
bought
it
from
that
there
were
in
that
bricks,
for
about
10
blocks
and
and
I.
Don't
know
the
the
price
of
all
that,
but
anyway
we
ought
to
make
sure
we
follow
up
on
that
and
then
I
think
Guido
answered
one
of
my
questions.
There's
no
brick
under
the
asphalt.
C
Yeah
the
other
thing
as
a
kind
of
an
aside
a
couple
years
ago,
I
told
Gene
Duncan
this
mayor
Christman,
when
he
was
still
mayor
in
St.
Pete
was
looking
to
buy
a
piece
of
equipment
that
would
more
quickly
extract
the
asphalt
from
bricks
because
of
the
loss
of
so
many
bricks,
and
and
he
wanted
to
share
the
cost
with
the
city
of
Tampa.
W
C
Could
use
it
for
this
purpose?
Maybe
the
CRA
could
could
pay
for
it,
so
maybe
somebody
watching
Vic
or
somebody
could
could
think
about
that.
Could
you
go
back
to
your
conclusion
page
with
alternative
one
and
six
I
was
thinking
as
you
went
through
the
Alternatives
first
time,
I've
seen
this
presentation,
but
those
are
the
two
that
I
would
pick
too
can.
Y
C
Go
back
like
one
slide
anyway,
my
choices
would
be
alternative
one
or
six.
My
my
first
preference,
my
first
preference
would
be
alternative
one,
which
is
the
historic
bricks,
but
the
second
choice
would
be
to
use
as
many
historic
bricks
as
we
can.
It
sounds
like
we've
got
at
least
10
blocks
worth,
and
then
we
could
we
could.
We
could
put
the
other
ones
in
the
idea
of
using
it
for
for
water,
storage
or
percolation
I
think
is
good
I,
don't
know
how
much
extra
that
would
cost.
C
But
you
know
flooding
is
going
to
continue
to
become
a
big
part
of
what's
happening
in
the
city
and
even
if
we
just
broke
even
with
whatever
grants
we
had,
it
would
be
a
good
idea
to
try
to
prevent
flooding
and
eboard
and
then
as
to
The
Branding
of
it,
for
partly
for
the
reason
I
mentioned.
I
think
we
ought
to
be
really
careful
about
how
we
brand
it,
because
if
it
has
an
ebore
logo
with
e-board
right
now,
I
think
a
lot
more
will
be
stolen,
but
also
I.
C
Think
that
that
it-
because
there
will
be
so
many-
it
needs
to
be
not
tacky
like
that
and
I.
What
I
understand
is
that
the
city
of
Tampa
has
the
the
the
patent
or
trademark
on
the
Ebor
City
lamps,
and
so
there
could
be
some
more
subtle,
abstract
thing
like
the
top
of
the
lamps
or
something
that
we
could
use,
or
maybe
there's
a
historic
name.
You
know
some
of
them
say
Augusta
on
them,
maybe
there's
some
other
historic
eboard
name
that
we
could
use
as
as
kind
of
our
own
brand.
C
That
doesn't
doesn't
just
call
it
ebore,
but
I
would
recommend
doing
something
more
subtle
that
doesn't
look
so
in
your
face.
I've
been
to
a
lot
of
cities
with
with
bricks
and
I,
haven't
seen
anybody
brand
it
like
you
know,
Deep
Ellum
or
something
like
that
or
or
Old
San
Juan
I,
don't
see
that
that
logo
and
I
think
that
that
would
feel
more
like
Disney
than
than
something
authentic.
C
So,
instead
of
Augusta,
if
we
had
some
historic
name
that
we
could
use
as
as
like
our
brand
or
or
we
could
use
some
abstract
symbol
that
people
who
know
but
but
it
wouldn't
be,
it
wouldn't
look
like
something
that
should
be
in
a
tourist
shop.
And
the
last
thing
is
that
I
think
I've
said
this
before,
but
I
think
Ebor
in
10
years
or
maybe
20
years,
is
going
to
be
the
best
case.
C
Study
in
the
world,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
with
with
all
the
Innovation
that's
happening
there,
the
creativity,
the
Arts
scene
that
we're
working
on
I
think
it's
going
to
be
the
case
study
that
other
cities
worldwide
are
looking
at
for
how
to
not
just
redevelop
but
how
to
how
to
create
and
develop
a
really
thriving
creative
economy
that
steps
ahead
of
AI
and
all
these
new
technologies.
Thank
you.
Z
A
O
Member
Miranda.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
following
the
colleague
that
just
spoke
Mr
Carlson
there's
some
things
that
came
to
mind.
I
the
new
development
is
going
to
happen.
There
I
think
it's
over
50
acres
from
Nebraska
on
into
Palm,
Avenue
and
and
that
new
area
is
going
to
look
beautiful.
Are
they
going
to
also
have
brick,
streaks
I?
Don't
I'm
just
asking
a
question:
I'd.
H
Nicole
Travis
administrative
development
and
Economic
Opportunity.
Yes,
I
have
spoken
to
the
landowner
to
include,
if
not
all,
some
break
streets,
to
show
that
there
is
continuity
and
so
that
when
they're
doing
the
sidewalks,
whether
the
sidewalks
have
like
a
brick
lining
just
to
show
that
there's
some
kind
of
connection.
If
we
can't
do
bricks.
But
we
have
been
in
communication
about
that
and
it
is
hesitant
to
add
something.
O
I
know
he's
always
two
or
three
steps
ahead
of
me,
but
thank
you
very
much.
You're
welcome.
The
next
thing
is
Mr
Carlson's,
considering
the
fact
that
some
of
the
bricks
may
be
stolen,
which
is
a
possibility,
but
I
think
we
can
make
a
deal
out
of
that
Mr
Carlson.
We
make
fake
bricks
and
sell
it
to
the
souvenirs
to
the
to
the
guests
coming
in.
O
So
we
can
pay
for
the
new
bricks
that
we're
going
to
lay
down,
and
that's
how
you
do
that
kind
of
business
you
when
you're
raised
like
Mr
goods
and
I,
you
make
these
kind
of
things
when
you're
in
the
neighborhood.
How
do
we
do
get
this
done?
And
you
remember
how
that
was
so
we
we
we
used
to
pick
up
bottles
for
five
cents,
each
or
sell
them,
so
we
can
get
some
for
free
and
that's
how
it
was
so
I'm.
O
Just
thinking
that
way
and
I
said
you
know
what
an
idea
just
came
out
of
there.
Mr
Carlson's
concern
I
said
we'll
make
some
bricks
a
few
thousand
to
start
with
see
if
it
goes
and
was
the
child
of
karate
comes
back
and
brings
all
these
tourists
into
town
and
there's
three
cars
running.
We
sell
the
bricks
for
10
or
12
dollars
and
we
make
eight
dollars
and
pay
for
the
new
bricks
that
are
coming
in.
O
Z
Z
Perfect,
they
are
going
to
be
laid
on
the
nine
inches
of
concrete
pavement,
correct.
Z
Yes,
ma'am,
as
as
the
basis
okay,
this.
This
is
a
wonderful
project.
I
saw
your
presentation
the
first
time
at
the
ycdc,
and
it
was
it
was
even
great.
Then
I
can't
wait
for
this
to
happen,
not
that
I'm
wanting
to
cut
costs,
but
so
that
we
can
make
it
a
little
bit
more
affordable
and
for
ADA
Compliant
at
the
street
car
I'm
at
the
street
Crossings.
Can't
we
laid
down
the
I
want
to
say
imitation,
but
the
modern
bricks.
E
Z
That
the
people
with
Ada,
whether
wheelchair
or
walking
problems,
can
can
have
a
smoother
place
to
to
walk
across
the
streets.
That's
one
concept,
one
thought,
but
thank
you
for
the
presentation.
Again,
it's
even
better
the
second
time
around
after
it
was
presented
at
ycdc.
H
Well,
hello,
again,
hello,
two
things
for
you
today:
we
need
a
motion
to
formally
cancel
the
June
8th
CRA
meeting.
It
will
be
you've
already
approved,
having
your
workshop
on
the
June
8th
meeting
right
now,
we're
working
to
lock
in
the
Julian
B
Lane
River
Center,
to
have
that
Workshop.
But
in
order
for
us
to
take
the
regular
schedule
meeting
off
the
calendar,
we
need
a
motion
to
remove
that
and
substitute
it
with
them.
K
So
I
have
a
couple
emotions
a
motion
to
cancel
the
CRA
meeting
scheduled
for
June
8
2023
at
9
00
a.m
and
in
its
place,
scheduling
a
special
CRA
meeting
and
a
workshop
for
future
CRA
planning
purposes.
Instead,
on
the
same
date,
June
8
2023
at
9
00
a.m.
This
special
CRA
meeting
will
be
held
at
the
River
Center
at
Julian
B
Lane
Park,
confirming
the
location
as
you
are:
securing
the
location
of
Dimension,
okay,.
E
H
And
also
so
in
our
search
for
an
economic
development
director
we've
been
doing
some
interviews
and
I
Mr,
drumgo
and
I
have
interviewed
a
candidate
that
we
think
would
be
suitable
for
not
suitable,
better
than
suitable,
pretty
awesome
to
be
our
CRA
director,
so
I'm
asking
for
your
Express
authorization
right
now
to
hire
to
move
forward
with
that
hire,
we've
extended
an
opportunity
for
you
to
to
meet
the
person
and
I
would
like
for
you
to
just
give
me
the
authorization
to
move
forward
with
that.
Please
thank.
E
M
I
met
the
young
lady
Mr
drumco,
and
this
Travis
are
seemed
very
high
on
this
individual
again
I
had
asked
Mr,
Dremel
kind
of
to
give
a
little
background
to
the
community,
so
we'll
know
why
this
process
is
not
like
the
other
process
and
also
the
individual
in
question
that
they're
looking
for
this
vote
was
in
that
process,
but
was
lacking
one
thing
that
you
thought,
but
now
looking
back
what
we
need,
you
feel
that
the
person,
so,
if
you
just
give
that
to
the
community
she's
knowing
why
we're
moving
forward
this
quickly
without
the
process
we
had
last
time,
I.
X
I,
typically,
don't
don't
come,
come
up
on
side
of
her
on
the
microphone
but
Deputy
Administrator,
Lee,
stromgo
development
and
Economic
Opportunity.
X
As
you
mentioned,
councilman,
the
the
candidate
was
actually
in
the
previous
pool
when
we
did
the
search
for
the
CRA
director
and
you
all
had
some
very
clear
criteria
for
us
on
what
you
wanted,
and
so
one
of
those
criteria
was
an
fra
or
the
FRA,
the
Florida
Redevelopment
Association
certification,
and
so
that
placed
her
at
the
top
of
your
your
next
level
of
candidates
that
do
not
have
that
certification
or
that
level
of
experience.
X
But
the
candidate
has
all
the
other
ingredients
that
you
all
are
looking
for,
and
so,
when
you
talk
about
the
Community
Development,
the
the
work
in
the
community
and
leading
programs
and
projects
and
then
also
managing
staff
and
managing
through
change
in
the
plans
that
we
have
in
place
so
really
that
candidate
was
in
the
pool.
So
it's
not.
You
know
it's
not
an
outside
process.
X
We're
shipping
it
apart
from
that
candidate
was
also
in
the
pool
for
economic
development
director
and
so
for
us,
it's
just
a
level
of
fit
and
and
where
we
can
maximize
the
talent
and
the
potential,
and
so
we
have
an
opportunity
to
bring
that
person
in
you
know.
At
the
end
of
the
day,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
say
that
there
are
public
servants,
they
want
to
be
public
servants,
but
they
don't
understand
the
things
that
come
with
that.
X
Nor
do
they
take
into
consideration
the
level
of
follow-up
that
needs
to
happen
with
the
public
and
so
for
me,
in
going
through
this
process
and
and
bringing
this
person
forward,
it
was
ensuring
that
we're
going
to
have
that
level.
The
follow-up
and
engagement
that
you
all
are
seeking
and
that
the
public
will
want
on
the
back
end.
So
you
can't
really
teach
grit.
You
can't
teach
that
that
core
part
of
public
service-
and
so
that's
where
we
that's
what
we're
bringing
forward
for.
M
X
Yeah
she
has,
she
has
experience
working
with
university
area,
CDC
in
operations
and
Facilities,
so
she's
managed
projects
from
construction
management
to
Parks
implementation
in
terms
of
also
grant
writing
and
just
general
Community
Development.
So
you
know
all
of
the
all
of
the
ingredients
without
without
having
the
fra
certification
over
a
decade
of
experience
in
the
work
and
really
committed
and
passionate
to
contributing
and
doing
work
in
disadvantaged
communities.
I.
M
M
The
reason
I
asked
for
that
information
for
the
public
can
know
I'm
familiar
with
the
university
area
and
what
they're
doing
and
how
they're
growing
and
how
their
CDC
is
working
up
there
and
the
the
director
who's
actually
been
running
that
program
up
there.
M
So
that's
why,
when
I
asked
the
tough
questions
on
the
other
day,
when
I
interviewed
with
the
young
lady
I
wanted
to
make
sure
this
person
had
what
I
call
tough
skin
with
some
of
the
cras
that
you
have
to
deal
with
and
coming
from
that
area
up
there,
you
have
to
have
a
little
tough
skin,
absolutely.
C
C
What's
happened
there
and
too
a
few
of
the
comments
that
came
up
before
if
I
had
a
choice
between
a
really
good
person
who
knows
how
to
build
community
and
someone
who
has
a
fra,
whatever
I
would
rather
have
the
person
who
knows
how
to
build
community,
and
you
know
we
get
invited
to
go
these
fra,
whatever
it's
called
meetings
and
I,
don't
I've
said
in
a
couple
of
them,
but
I
don't
care
what
other
cities
in
Florida
are
doing,
because
I
don't
want
to
follow
other
cities
in
Florida
I
want
to
do.
C
I
want
to
leave
frog
ahead
of
them
and
do
better
things
and
that's
why
I
always
ask
Morris
like
what
can
we
do
within
the
law,
because
we
should
be
looking
at
Best,
Practices
worldwide,
for
building
community
and
and
then
and
then
figure
out
within
the
law,
what
we
can
do
with
ncra?
We
shouldn't
be
copying
what
other
cities
are
doing.
Most
cities
are
focusing
on
real
estate
and
I.
Think
as
as
board
member
Goods
was
just
talking,
I
realized
when,
when
you
say
CRA,
this
is
a
problem
with
initials
people.
C
People
forget
what
it
means,
but
the
first
word
is
community
and
I.
Think
what
most
people
do,
including
this
city
until
four
years
ago,
is
focused
on
the
Redevelopment
part
and
they
think
Redevelopment
means
real
estate
and
it
sure
there
are
certain
infrastructure
things
that
we
can
have
to
spend
the
money
on.
But
that
doesn't
mean
that
the
focus
or
goal
should
be
the
edifice
complex.
It
needs
to
be.
How
do
we
build
a
sense
of
community
and
that's
what
they've
done
in
the
in
the
university
area
and
in
in
the
university
area?
C
Cdc
they've
gone
so
far
as
to
not
only
understand
the
community,
but
look
at
the
subcultures
like
there
are
people
from
different
parts
of
Mexico
who
speak
indigenous
languages
and
they
they've
developed
programs
around
the
indigenous
languages
there
to
work
with
them,
and
so,
if
we
have
people,
if
we
have
people
on
our
team
who
understand
that,
then
they
should
understand
the
nuances
of
of
Ybor,
City
and
East
Tampa
and
the
other
complex
communities
that
we
have.
C
The
other
thing
is
that
this
area,
University
CDC,
focuses
on
results,
they're
a
non-profit,
so
they
have
to
focus
on
results.
They
live
or
die
by
the
donations
they
get.
They
have
to
get
results,
sometimes
we're
accused
of
being
too
bureaucratic
and,
as
we
see
things
take
forever
to
do
even
with
good
staff
like
like
Nicole,
and
so
we
need
somebody
who's
used
to
bootstrapping
and
getting
things
done,
we
need
somebody,
who's
results,
oriented
somebody
who
knows
how
to
run
an
organization
with
not
enough
resources
and
how
to
use
money
effectively.
C
Money
is
not
unlimited
and
even
though
the
whole,
the
city
is
giving
these
Districts
The
Gift
of
this
additional
money
that
they
don't
get
the
benefit
of.
We
need
to
be
good
custodians
of
it.
We
need
somebody
who
knows
the
value
of
a
dollar
and
really
focuses
on
it.
So,
and
the
most
important
thing
is
that
Elise
and
Nicole
are
recommending
this
person,
so
with
their
recommendation
and
the
background
in
the
interview
I
would
I
would
support
those.
Thank
you.
AA
They
did
that
yeah,
no
and
all
enthusiastically
vote,
Yes
I
met
I've,
been
on
Tuesday
and
I
was
very
impressed,
a
very
wonderful
individual
and
has
been
said
before
her
involvement
with
the
uacdc.
Such
an
amazing
organization
is
Second,
To,
None
and
I
think
she's
going
to
do
a
great
job.
She
seems
very
knowledgeable,
very
idealistic,
Etc
and,
and
it's
you
know
the
with
the
uacdc.
AA
You
talk
about
an
organization
and
in
any
an
effort
that
that
is,
you
know,
we're
all
in
public
service
and
imagine
if
any
one
of
us
you
know
created
something
like
the
uacdc
I,
always
think
about
Victor,
crisp
and
and
the
amazing
work
he's
done
there.
I
mean
to
have
that
be
a
a
legacy
which
is
you
know
our
hats
off
for
that
and
the
great
work
the
uacdc
does,
but
but
to
have
this
individual
here
I
think
is
going
to
be
great
and
I.
AA
K
Thank
you
very
much.
Real
quick,
I
I
met
the
candidate
the
other
day
with
the
lease
and
very
impressive,
very
impressive
resume.
I.
Looked
it
over
a
few
times.
You
know
here
from
Tampa
knows
a
community
working
with
great
organizations
that
have
already
been
mentioned.
K
I
think
she
would
be
a
wonderful
addition
and
because
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
do
so,
you
know
hit
the
ground
running.
That's
this
person
knows
how
to
do
it.
Working
with
both
of
you
and
everybody
else,
I
think
we
have
a
very
bright
future
ahead,
especially
with
all
the
things
that
we're
going
to
tackle.
Thank
you.
M
I
know
at
what
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
it
moving.
I
know
you've
already
started
what
you
call
the
operation
constructure
we're
looking
at
putting
that
in
play
before
this
hire
or
that
could
be
put
in
place
during
that
process.
I
know
you
want
to.
H
Make
sure
we're
going
to
do
it
concurrently,
the
market,
so
the
labor
market
and
your
public
meeting
and
public
discussion
doesn't
allow
for
me
to
wait
to
hire,
make
this
higher
I
need
to
make
the
higher
now
and
so
the
this
restructuring
is
we
in
order?
You
put
it
this.
This
CRA
board
you've
trusted
us.
We've
done
the
the
work.
H
You've
done
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting
and
having
hard
conversations
to
put
this
restructure
in
play,
but
it's
not
going
to
be
finished
and
probably
and
set
until
like
18
months,
and
so
we
need
to
go
ahead
and
make
the
higher.
Now
we
made
the
candidate
very
aware
of
the
restructure
and
the
vision
of
this
board
and
how
to
move
that
so
we're
going
to
make
that
we're
going
to
make
that
offer
soon
and
hopefully
she'll
accept
the
position.
But
the
restructure
is
continuing.
I.
M
Think
the
construction
is
is
key
for
the
movement,
especially
for
the
east
side.
Yeah,
bringing
everybody
in
those
ideas
are
all
there
versus
silos.
H
M
H
That's
that's
100,
moving
forward
we're
moving
forward
with
that,
and
so
just
as
an
aside
like
when
I
did
the
presentation,
you
guys
voted
to
approve,
adding
certain
positions,
we're
looking
at
we're.
Look
we're
looking
at
all
of
that
restructure
we're
putting
that
in
place.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
it.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
it
under
the
services
agreement,
but.
H
It's
it's
all
in
play.
I
just
want
to
say:
Mr
drumgo
said
that
it's
hard
for
to
find
people,
you
can't
teach
grit
and
when
we
used
to
work
together
before
we
had
a
saying
in
our
CRA
office
that
grit
don't
quit,
and
so
you
have
to
be
hungry
to
be
in
Redevelopment.
You
have
to
be.
You
have
to
want
to
do
the
work
and
it
was
our
motto
we
had
it
up
on
our
boards
in
our
office
that
grit
don't
quit.
Sometimes
it
takes
two
years
to
get
an
easement.
H
H
Yeah,
so
we
believe
that
the
candidate
that
I'm
asking
you
to
allow
me
to
hire
has
the
grit
and
the
hunger
to
get
in
this
work
with
us.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam.
A
I
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
her
and
talking
to
her
I
think
a
couple
weeks
ago,
and
it
was
a
really
great
conversation
because
I
came
in
with
I
mean
we.
We
were
very
honest
with
the
conversation
and
I
really
loved
that
she
had
a
phenomenal
answer
for
every
question
I
had
and
there
was
there
was
no
fear
and
she
is
seems,
ready
to
get
started,
which
is
incredibly
exciting.
So
thank
you
so
much.
A
A
Okay,
let's
do
a
roll
call
vote.
M
Z
B
Z
H
Jungle
and
I
sincerely.
Thank
you
for
that
support.
Next
up
we
have
the
staff
monthly
CRA
activities
report.
There
should
be
a
PowerPoint
presentation
for
that
and
I
think
Mr
Burton
might
be
up
for
can
I.
C
C
H
We're
we're
in
this
right
we've
already
set.
You
you've
been
very
clear
on
the
restructure
that
you
want
to
do
and
any
candidate
that
we
were
new
hire
that
we
were
going
to
bring
in
we
don't.
We
can't
reasonably
expect
them
to
implement
those
changes.
H
So
Mr,
drumgoo
and
I
will
continue
to
work
alongside
the
CRA
director
to
implement
the
change,
but
also
to
make
sure
that
the
CRA
is
functioning
and
operating
in
the
direction
that
you
have
provided,
and
so
this
position
would
report
to
you
as
a
CRA
board,
but
it
also
would
be
reporting
to
Mr
Jungle
starfingers
on
plus
we're
not
leaving
at
all.
You'll
continue
to
see
us
in
can
call
us
for
anything.
C
And
I,
if
I
could
just
add
you
know
my
colleagues
know.
Four
years
ago,
I
was
concerned
about
the
independence
of
the
CRA
and
we
set
it
up
to
be
more
independent
and
the
and
the
mayor
Administration
work
with
us
to
do
that.
C
But
then,
when,
when
YouTube
took
over
an
interim
basis,
I
I
was
very
concerned
that
we
would
lose
our
independence
and
I
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
and
the
mayor
and
the
and
the
administration
for
enabling
you
to
wear
multiple
hats
and
to
be
and
to
continue
to
be
independent.
You
none
of
the
decisions
we've
made,
have
been
adverse
to
the
administration,
but
you've
also
shown
that
you
are
willing
to
listen
to
us
in
the
community
and
get
things
done
and
I
appreciate
everyone's
Independence
in
doing
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
H
W
Thank
you
all
right.
One
slide
for
all
four
Jeff
Burton
Urban
CRA
manager
for
the
Channel
District
in
the
downtown.
We
have
the
Riverwalk
beneficial
Bridge
study,
which
you're
going
to
vote
on
today.
That's
a
joint
partnership
to
look
at
the
intersection
of
those
two
just
to
let
you
know,
Channel
district
will
carry
the
weight
of
that
because
the
bridge
itself
is
in
the
channel
District,
but
the
landing
on
the
downtown
side
is
in
the
downtown
cra
downtown
Redevelopment
Plan
update.
W
We
learned
this
last
month
that
it
will
be
completed
no
later
than
2024..
This
is
the
update
to
your
older
CRA
plan
for
the
downtown,
we're
in
the
process
of
that
there'll
be
a
number
of
meetings
happening
with
stakeholders
and
public
meetings
to
discuss
different
types
of
Redevelopment
that
we
can
do
that
are
currently
not
in
that
CRA
plan.
W
Washington
Street,
Park
Redevelopment.
This
is
a
channel
District
project
and
we
are
currently
in
community
engagement.
It's
moving
forward.
Right
now
we
were
at
a
standstill,
had
some
conflicts
with
getting
it
started,
but
luckily
we
have
a
really
great
consultant
in
Parks
and
Recreation.
That's
come
through
in
a
big
way
to
help
us
with
that.
At
the
last
CAC
meeting,
we
agreed
to
move
forward
with
the
the
public
engagement
on
that
Saint
James
Church
Bell,
historic
preservation.
W
This
is
Central
Park
and
the
Tampa
Housing
Authority,
the
Tampa
Housing
Authority,
has
actually
found
the
original
Bell
that
was
in
Central
Avenue
for
the
Saint
James
Church,
it's
being
restored
to
a
point
they're
going
to
keep
it
looking
historic,
it's
not
going
to
be
brought
back
all
shiny
and
new.
We
want
to
work
with
them
to
make
that
Bell
present
once
it's
in
place.
It
will
be
not.
It
will
not
be
run
again,
but
we're
asking
that
one.
W
C
Yeah
I
would
like
to
I
just
thought
of
this,
as
you
were
presenting
it,
but
if,
if
you're
going
through
a
almost
year
more
than
a
year-long
process
on
the
downtown
CRA,
I
would
like
to
to
have
included
in
the
options
instead
of
just
asking
people
for
all.
What
are
all
the
goodies
that
we
can
spend
money
on.
I
would
like
to
ask
as
two
Alternatives
one
reducing
the
amount
by
25
another
by
reducing
it
by
50
to
return
that
to
the
general
fund
so
that
we
can
spend
it
in
other
areas.
C
So
if
I
could
see
how
it
goes,
I
would
I
would
just
make
a
motion
to
ask
that
in
that
process
that
that,
among
the
other
Alternatives
that
they
present
two
Alternatives
one
would
be
to
reduce
the
amount
by
25
and
the
second
one
would
be
to
reduce
it
by
50
percent
so
that
we
can
get
input
from
the
public
in
those
public
meetings.
K
M
Massey,
what
will
be
the
rules
of
implications
by
doing
that,
because
I
think
there's
certain
guidelines,
I'm
not
mistaken,
so
how
would
that
work
if
that
was
to
happen,
one
in
looking
at
the
projects
that
are
on
Deck
right
now?
How
does
that
plan
out?
If
you
actually
drop
that
money
down?
How
would
that
work?
Maybe.
G
Part
of
the
the
school,
if
if
the
CRA
would
want
to
move
in
that
direction,
one
of
the
two
things
we
would
have
to
do
is
look
at
our
present
commitments.
We
have
a
number
of
very
costly
agreements
and
improvements
that
we've
agreed
to
that
are
coming
out
of
the
downtown
CRA,
including
25
million
dollars
to
the
stress,
I,
think
16
million
to
the
Performing
to
the
commission.
G
Center
we've
got
the
Museum
of
Arts
going
to
be
asking
for
a
sizable
sum:
14
million
for
the
Tampa
Theater
two
and
a
half
billion
for
Tampa
Union
Station.
There
could
be
also
an
Ask
coming
on
potentially
for
fiscal
improvements
that
are
related
to
the
streetcar
extension
or
a
or
a
circulator
system
in
downtown.
All
those
sorts
of
things
are
things
that
that
could
potentially
be
coming
before
you
all,
so
that
needs
to
be
balanced
and
we've
had
to
think
through.
G
Then
legally
we'd
have
to
amend
the
community
read
along
plan,
which
we're
going
to
do
anyway,
and
so
that
would
be
part
of
this.
We'd
also
have
to
amend
our
interlocal
agreement
with
Hillsborough
County
because
of
the
analytical
agreement
with
Hillsborough
County,
we've
agreed
to
pay
95
percent
of
the
tax
increment
that
the
city
receives
into
the
downtown
tip
fund.
So
those
are
the
the
steps
so.
W
So
just
so
the
the
agree
with
that
we've
been
asked
to
put
together
a
10-year
budget
before
all
the
cras,
and
if
that
were
something
that
the
board
wanted
to
do,
we
actually
have
the
projections
that
we
need
to
show
all
of
these
expenditures
and
where,
where
they
end
up,
so
it
could
be,
if
that's
what
the
board
wishes.
It
just
wouldn't
happen
immediately,
because
until
after
some
of
these
other
payments
are
paid
out.
C
Yeah,
just
a
following
that
the
you
know
I
brought
this
up
a
couple
years
ago,
but
the
good
thing
about
this
is
that
we're
going
to
the
public
we're
spending
a
year
asking
the
public
what
they
think,
and
so
all
this
motion
is,
is
to
ask
the
public.
What
do
you
think
about
these
ideas?
It?
Of
course
we
have
to
keep
all
of
our
financial
obligations
and
then
the
other
thing
that
would
be
brought
out
those
bright
last
time
as
well.
C
Once
it
goes
in
the
general
fund,
would
we
lose
the
county
money?
We
can
negotiate
a
different
interlocal
agreement
with
the
county
and
it
you
know
all
those
things
are
possible
and
we
could
also,
at
sitting
at
city
council,
then
set
up
a
special
fund.
We
could
set
up
a
pothole
fund,
a
road
repair
fund.
We
could
set
up
a
Parks
fund,
we
could
set
up
a
affordable
housing
fund,
but
the
problem
is
that
people
throughout
the
city
are
complaining
every
day
that
potholes
aren't
getting
filled
parks
are
falling
apart,
there's
not
enough,
affordable
housing.
C
All
these
problems
we
basic
problems
we
can't
fix,
but
but
now
we're
gonna
go
to
a
group
in
downtown
and
say
well,
the
yeah,
the
rest
of
the
city
is
subsidizing
you,
but
now
we're
going
to
let
you
write
a
goodie
list
that
you're
going
to
spend
for
the
next
10
years
and
the
rest
of
the
city
is
saying
we
don't
want
our
taxes
to
be
increased,
but
we
want
you
to
fill
fulfill
these
basic
services
and
so
I
think
it's
worth
at
least
asking
the
public.
C
Now
that
we're
this
way,
we
don't
have
to
pay
for
a
separate
public
process.
It
would
be
worth
asking
the
public
what
they
think
and
at
the
end
of
it.
Probably
the
people
in
downtown
are
going
to
say
no.
But
it's
worth
a
discussion,
because
if
we
just
at
least
by
including
these
we'll
get
people
to
think
about
the
fact
that
that
other
parts
of
the
city
have
parks
that
are
falling
apart
and
they
have
potholes
because
we're
spending
this
money
in
downtown-
and
so
hopefully
they'll
be
careful
about
what
they
propose.
C
O
Thank
you
very
much,
I
appreciate
anything
that
comes
up
in
that
the
discussion
and
and
to
look
at
where
it
is,
but
I
believe
that
what
the
administration,
not
the
administration,
what
the
individuals
that
run
the
CRA
and
the
attorney,
who
sits
here
representing
the
CRA
and
ourselves
without
having
a
fact
figure
in
front
of
us
or
what
the
expenditures
are,
what
we've
promoted
and
promise
was
going
to
happen
that
money's
already
tied
up
and
for
us
to
and
I'm
not
opposed
to
asking
the
public
for
anything.
O
O
I,
don't
know
all
those
answers,
so
I
I
would
rather
have
a
discussion
between
the
CRA
board
as
us
and
the
individuals
here
representing
what
they
do
so
well
in
the
CRA
area
and
the
attorneys
to
tell
us
what
you
can
do
and
can't
do,
because
the
cras
are
something
that
are
very
controlled
by
the
state
statute.
O
You
have
the
county
involved,
you
have
other
entities
involved
and
for
us
to
say
we're
going
to
do
something
to
help
something
which
is
needed,
but
that's
up
to
us
to
find
it
when
we
said
a
city
council
to
find
that
money
within
the
budget
to
do
that,
we
committed
for
a
30-year
something
at
something
time
within
wherever
that
period
ends.
I
really
don't
know.
Today,
I
know
it
was
30
years
I'm
not
going
to
say
it's
tomorrow
or
the
next
year,
but
15
10
years,
20
years
down
the
line.
O
If
someone
files
a
suit
and
I'm
not
afraid
to
go
to
court,
but
if
that's
true
tells
us
that
we're
wrong,
and
we
can't
do
everything
that
you
wanted
to
do
we're
going
to
have
a
problem
that
we
can't
solve
so
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
what
the
direction
is
that
we're
going,
because
we
did
sign
an
agreement,
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
we
signed
an
agreement
with
the
cra's
Hillsborough,
County
and
others
involved
to
do
what
we
said.
We're
going
to
do
and
we're
doing
exactly
what
we
say.
We're
going
to
do.
M
Another
concern
is
me:
I
assumed,
Mr
cause
was
going
because
downtown.
Is
they
don't
what
we
they
need
to
do,
but
I
think
the
obligations
we
like
I
said:
we've
got
money
out
for
the
stress,
the
the
the
museum.
C
M
The
convention
center
and
the
Tampa
theater
is,
after
a
bunch
of
money,
now
I'm
not
worried
about
anybody
coming
after
them
now,
but
if
you're
gonna
stop
it,
you
got
to
make
sure
we
can
fulfill
those
obligations
of
those
four
or
five
individuals
already
before
you
turn
my
ending
it
or
potentially
more
so
people
may
are
still
saying
it.
They
want
to
come
to
ask
for
some
things
in
the
future,
so
you
have
to
look
at
hey.
Do
you
say
these
are
obligations?
We
cut
it
off
with
these
five
individuals
that
we've
already
committed.
M
Z
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
on
on
the
surface.
Downtown
is
beautiful
and
the
downtown
CRA
is
has
done
an
excellent
job,
but
there
is
more
to
downtown
than
what
people
see
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
there
are
Parts
Zach
Street
North
that
are
a
desperate
need
of
help
and
they're,
also
infringing
on
other
neighborhoods
that
have
cras
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
later.
That
I
would
like
to
actually
see
the
downtown
CRA
extended.
Z
There
are
Parts
going
further
north
that
are
in
the
urban
core
and
which
are
going
to
become
the
new
downtown
area.
If
we
would
look
to
our
friends
over
at
the
county
to
repave
their
roads,
our
constituents
wouldn't
complain
as
much.
We
only
have
19
percent
of
the
streets
within
the
city
limit
of
Tampa
that
belong
to
the
city,
Armenia
halvard,
Kennedy,
Columbus,
Bayshore,
Bayshore
people
complain
about
those
repaving.
They
don't
belong
to
the
city.
They
belong
to
the
county.
Z
A
Board
member
Vieira,
okay
board
member
Carlson.
C
The
original
motion
with
a
motion
to
ask
staff
to
come
back
on
in
the
July
CRA
meeting,
to
propose
an
option
to
reduce
the
CRA
funding
in
the
downtown
CRA
District
that
could
be
discussed
for
the
purposes
of
potentially
providing
an
alternative
for
the
public
engagement
discussions
for
the
CRA
plan.
O
I
I
don't
know
if
I
can
support
that
or
not
I.
We
signed
an
agreement
with
various.
You
know,
I
think
there's
eight
of
them
and
I
need
legal
to
tell
us
before
we
start
poking
around
see
what
we
can
do
and
not
do
late
the
guidelines.
So
we
don't
hit
that
slippery
soap
slope
and
find
out
that
we
can't
do
what
we
want
to
do
and
be
embarrassed
again.
O
So
I,
like
the
legal
department,
Mr
Massey
Who,
is
the
attorney
for
the
CRA
to
gather
the
information
that
we
spoke
about
and
to
put
it
into
legal
context
of
what
we
can
and
cannot
do
with
that
program
that
we
signed
on
for
years
to
come
and
if
not
I'm,
not
going
to
support
any
motion.
Unless
legal
department
tells
us
that
here's
what
you
can
do,
here's
what
you
cannot
do,
not
what
we
want
to
do.
But
what
legally
can
we
do
with
the
agreements
that
we
signed
on.
G
Mr
Miranda
there,
if
you
all,
want
to
reduce
the
amount
of
the
city
contribution
into
this
downtown
CRA,
there
is
a
means
to
legally
do
it,
but
there
are
a
number
of
steps
that
would
have
to
you
would
have
to
go
through
in
order
to
do
that,
including
revising
our
agreement
with
the
county.
Just
so
you
all
are
aware
the
county
does
not
contribute
any
of
their
tip
to
the
downtown,
so
the
any
projects
in
the
downtown
are
supported
solely
from
the
city's
tip.
G
That's
so
the
so
the
county
may
not
care
so
much
that
we're
reducing
it,
except
if
it
impacts
any
of
our
obligations
that
are
with
the
county,
the
one
that
I
can
think
of
that
we
we
still
have
I
think
outstanding
is
the
agreement.
We
have
relative
to
the
Water
Street
development,
where
the
counties
agreed
to
fund
50
of
the
infrastructure,
improvements
up
to
a
certain
amount
that
we've
agreed
through
the
CRA
to
fund
50
of
the
the
infrastructure
improvements
related
to
that
project
through
the
CRA
funding.
G
So
that
would
be
one
thing
that
they
may
be
concerned,
but
I
think
part
of
the
part
of
all
this.
If
you
all
want
it
to
go
down
this
route
is
that
we
would
have
to
study
what
those
obligations
are
and
we
would
have
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
reduce
that
and
and
and
that
would
have
to
be
presented
in
go
to
the
county.
AA
Thank
you
very
much
yeah.
So
you
know
this
came
up
a
couple
of
years
ago
in
the
form
of
capping
downtown
CRA.
My
recollection
is
the
the
the
Channel
Side
plan
failed
in
terms
of
sun
setting
and
capping
it
past
four
to
three
I.
AA
Don't
know
what
happened
after
that
and
I
I
recall:
I
I
supported
that
looking
at
capping,
the
downtown
CRA
I've
always
been
open
to
some
modifications,
but
while
looking
at
what
the
unintended
consequences
of
it
are,
councilman
Miranda
wisely
brings
up
the
the
fact
and
the
idea
that
we
make
certain
commitments
for,
however
long
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
know
I
have
no
problem
with
having
a
discussion
on
the
the
the
feasibility
of
it
like
councilman
Miranda,
said
of
what
councilman
Carlson
is
talking
about
the
feasibility
of
it.
AA
What
the
land
mines
are
Etc,
I
I,
wonder
if
the
hurdles
or
the
roadblocks
in
the
way
of
it
would
outweigh
the
benefits
of
it
and
then
there's
obviously
or
obligations.
I
mean
a
lot
of
things
were
talked
about:
the
the
Tampa
Museum
of
Art,
the
Straz
Center,
one
that
I
think
is
going
to
take
up
40
percent
of
the
CRA
downtown
budget,
at
least
in
projections
when
this
was
passed
by
the
CRA
body
about
a
year
ago
or
so
in
in
year.
AA
Five,
that's
going
to
take
up
a
lot,
so
the
issue
is
by
you
know
putting
this
forward.
What
right
now?
What
benefit
are
we
going
to
get
out
of
it
with
all
these
obligations
and
then
what
detriment
are
we
going
to
have
to
go
through
through
the
procedure
of
actually
going
through
it
and
and
again,
I
speak
out
of
complete
ignorance,
money
lost,
Etc,
I
I,
don't
know
at
this
time.
So
in
terms
of
something
you
know
on
looking
at
feasibility,
legal
consequences
of
it,
I'm
fine
with
that.
AA
But
but
we
have
to
know
in
terms
of
the
many
many
many
commitments
that
we
made
as
as
a
body
here
and
what's
going
to
be
the
visibility
of
going
through
all
the
steps
and
then
for
what,
if
most
of
our
budgets
already
committed
in
the
downtown
CRA,
so
that
you
know
again
just
good
questions,
you
know,
maybe
we
could
have
as
a
motion
to
look
at
feasibility
for
a
more
robust
discussion
on
this
to
talk
about
the
numbers,
the
consequences.
AA
A
A
AA
Ask
councilman
Carlson,
so
is
it?
Could
you
and
I
apologize
to
know
you're
already
did
a
yeah,
you
kind
of
redid
the
motion
so
to
speak.
So
is
this
more
so
as
a
feasibility
looking
for
like
a
legal
feasibility
of
it
or
just
to
make
sure
I
know
what
I'm
talking
because
again
I'm
I'm
open
to
talking
about
it,
I
just
don't
want
to
I'm
open
to
you
know
talking
about.
Maybe
you
know
again
just
looking
at
the
idea,
but
going
in.
C
Yeah
I
think
with
I,
don't
remember
all
the
words,
but
the
idea
is
to
I
think
in
July
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
budget
for
the
CRA,
and
so
it
would
just
be
to
ask
staff
between
now
and
then
to
to
look
at
the
legal
and
financial
ramifications,
the
contracts
and
talk
to
you
all
and
come
back
with
a
proposal,
and
we
would
not
act
on
the
proposal
right
away.
C
All
we
would
do
is
if
we
like
the
proposal,
then
we
would
ask
the
staff
to
insert
that
proposal
as
one
alternative
into
the
public
engagement
discussion.
That's
happening
on
the
downtown
plan,
and
so
the
downtown
plan
will
take
months
and
so
sometime
in
2024.
When
they
come
back
with
a
public
engagement,
then
we
can
decide
what
we
want
to
do.
Then
we
wouldn't
we
wouldn't
decide
in
July
whether
we
want
to
go
forward
with
it
or
not.
O
He
mentioned
the
stress
Center,
you
mentioned
other
things,
the
museum
we
committed
to
those
things
months
ago.
What
are
we
going
to
tell
them
now?
We
change
our
mind
in
a
way
because
I
don't
know
what
the
numbers
are.
I
know
it
was
big
numbers,
but
for
me
to
digest
something
and
not
remember,
the
total
package,
then,
would
not
be
the
best
way
for
myself
or
the
constituents
that
we
represent
to
say.
O
O
So
these
are
the
things
that
that
I'm
I'm
looking
forward
to
make
sure
that
a
comprehensive
study
not
only
of
this
but
what
we
said,
what
we're
going
to
do
in
the
whole
city
of
Tampa
that
we
understand
where
we're
at
that
we
understand
what
the
costs
are
and
we
understand
where
the
funding
is
coming
from
on
all
these
items,
I
don't
run
my
household
this
way
and
I
shouldn't
run
the
city
this
way
either
you
have
to
know
what
your
expenses
are,
what
your
incomes
are
and
how
long
you're
going
to
live
to
pay
for
them,
and
if
the
cras
have
a
lifespan,
the
beginning,
and
they
have
an
end-
and
my
grandmother
used
to
tell
me
when
all
of
us
are
born,
you
have
an
expiration
date.
O
We
just
don't
know
when
it
is,
and
she
was
right,
but
the
CRA
we
know
what
the
expiration
date
is.
So
these
are
the
things
and
I'm
not
subject
to
not
making
a
change.
What
I'm
looking
at
is
I'm
not
going
to
just
go
hunting
for
a
bear
when
I
really
should
go
fishing
for
fish.
That
doesn't
make
sense.
Neither
does
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
M
I,
like
the
idea
of
of
exploring
and
looking
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that,
but
a
proposal
to
come
back
I
think
this
kind
of
kind
of
pushing
it
just
a
little
bit
but
I
I
agree.
Let's
look
at
what
the
the
what
the
commitments
are,
what
the
legalities
are,
how
much
we
owe
how
much
we
got
to
pay
people
I
totally
agree
with
that
and
I
can
support
that,
but
The
Proposal
Part
is
kind
of
hard
for
me
to
bring
a
proposal
back
to
cut
it,
but
I
think
the
feasibility
of
studying
it.
A
AA
You
and
councilman
Goods
kind
of
kind
of
had
I
had
those
same
thoughts.
What
I
wrote
down
was
not
comfortable
with
a
proposal
but
yes
to
process
consequences
and
feasibility
so
kind
of
on
board.
There.
C
Yeah,
just
the
proposal
I
made
the
the
motion
I
made
included,
looking
at
all
those
things
that
you
all
just
said
so
and
you
all
will
have
a
chance
to
give
input
to
them
to
the
staff
in
the
meantime
and
tell
them
what
you
like
and
don't
like.
C
They
can't
tell
us
outside
of
meetings
what
you
all
like
and
don't
like,
but
you
can
give
them
input
on
it,
but
they,
of
course
they
have
to
look
at
all
the
financial
obligations,
everything
and-
and
in
case
some
staff
person
has
already
called
The,
Business
Journal
to
say
I'm
against
downtown
I'm,
not
against
downtown.
This
is
we.
We
spend
a
lot
of
money
downtown
and
we
have
made
huge
investments
in
the
last
couple
years.
This
proposal
we
took
25
percent.
This
money
is
growing
exponentially.
C
C
These
days
is
not
about
downtowns
it's
about
neighborhoods,
and
what
we've
seen
in
the
last
couple
years
is
that
we
have
people
worth
hundreds
of
millions
and
billions
at
all
dollars
that
had
quietly
moved
into
our
neighborhoods
and
they're
running
multi-billion
dollar
operations
out
of
their
neighborhoods
and
they're,
disgusted
that
their
parks
are
falling
apart
and
that
there
are
potholes
in
their
streets
and
they're,
disgusted
that
people
don't
have
affordable
housing
to
live
in
and
they're
telling
their
friends
wherever
they
came
from
that
that
that
the
there
are
these
problems,
and
so
that
is
what's
going
to
hurt
Economic
Development
our
community.
C
We
need
to
look
at
modern,
Economic
Development,
and
that
includes
all
of
our
neighborhoods
and
by
the
way,
if
we
decide
to
move
25
unless
we
allocate
it
as
the
city
council,
we
can
always
decide
to
spend
that
on
on
in
downtown
anyway.
I
always
say:
cras
are
for
lazy
policy
makers,
because
we
have
discretion
over
how
we
spend
the
money.
Why
should
we
be
forced
to
spend
it
in
one
area,
especially
when
there's
no
slum
and
blight?
The
clearly
downtown
would
not
qualify
today
as
a
CRA
based
on
the
current
conditions,
but
this
is.
K
O
O
You
would
have
an
idea
of
where
you're
going
and
where
you're
coming
from.
But
when
you
start
doing
with
this,
this
is
not
proposal.
Today.
This
has
been
proposed
year
after
year
after
year
after
year,
the
last
two
or
three
years,
so
I'm
not
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
afraid
to
say
I
haven't
gotten
reelected.
Some
of
you
have
God
bless
you,
but
I'm
not
going
to
take
a
whooping
just
because
I
want
to
get
elected,
I
stand
by
my
ground
and
what
I'm
saying
is
I.
O
M
Board
member
on
that
note,
Mr
Randy
is
going
to
make
a
motion
tonight
about
that,
but
I
hope
within
your
motion.
M
You
talk
about
the
four
districts,
but
within
each
district
there
are
certain
Pockets
that
are
growing
versus
other
Pockets
that
are
not
growing,
so
that
needs
to
be
included
of
you
have
the
four
districts,
but
within
those
districts,
what
areas
within
those
digits
have
grown
and
those
that
have
not
grown
yeah.
That's
very,
very
key.
A
A
AA
You
very
much
and
again
I
I'm
fine
for
looking
at
process
consequences,
foreseeability
looking
at
a
proposal,
especially
for
25,
when
you
know
we've
committed
all
these
funds
and
again
my
recollection
is
I
could
be
wrong.
So
please
is
it
in
the
final.
It
was
at
least
projected
in
the
final
year
for
strats
it
would
be
35
to
40
percent.
That's
my
recollection.
I
could
be
wrong.
AA
You
put
that
all
together
we're
gonna
we're
asking
staff
to
take
up
valuable
time
for
a
formal
proposal
that
that
may
not
give
the
dividends.
You
know
what
I
mean
that
we're
talking
about
so
again.
I
would
vote
for
this
if
it
was
process,
consequences
and
feasibility
just
putting
that
out
there,
because,
because
again,
councilman
Carlson's
been
working.
This
issue
for
a
lot
of
years
and
and
I
salute
the
Vigor
on
that.
Okay,.
C
And
if
we
decide
at
that
point
that
we
want
to
put
it
into
the
public
comment
discussion,
then
it
will
spend
months
getting
public
comment
and
then
in
2024
we
can
decide
whether
we
want
to
do
something
or
not
so
we're
not
deciding
on
this
today,
we're
not
even
going
to
decide
on
July
we're
just
asking
for
information.
Thank
you.
O
O
If
I
may
Madam
chair
to
come
back
in
July,
like
Mr
Carlson
asked
to
bring
us
the
numbers
that
we
have
committed
for
the
years
to
come
when
this
Council
voted
for
various
things
within
the
district,
for
their
enhancement
to
the
area
and
for
the
future
that
we
did,
because
we
we
made
some
advancement
like
Mr
Vieira,
called
the
convention
center,
the
strands,
the
aquarium,
the
maybe
not
the
aquarium
yet
but
I'm
sure
they're,
going
to
ask
the
there's
so
many
that
we
we
funded,
that
we
said
we're
going
to
the
the
the
Children's
Museum
and
the
museum
across.
O
Yeah,
but
you
you
put
that
25
and
I'm,
just
saying
that
that
25
came
back
and
all
I'm
asking
them
to
do
is
to
tell
us
the
amount
of
money
that
we
have
committed.
O
AA
C
C
I,
don't
know
what
happens
with
Robert's
Rules
now,
if
he,
if
the
substitute
motion
stands,
then
I'll
make
another
motion
after
that
and
see
if
it
goes
up
or
down,
but
I
think
we
have
a.
We
have
a
responsibility
to
the
community
to
be
good
custodians
of
their
money
and
asking
the
downtown
residents
over
the
next
six
months.
What
they
want
to
spend
this
money
on
without
the
possibility
of
reducing
it,
I
think,
is
irresponsible
and
Reckless,
because
it's
not
their
money.
C
It's
the
rest
of
the
city's
money
that
they're
investing
in
downtown
and
the
rest
of
the
city.
We
have
to
keep
all
of
our
commitments,
everything
that
we've
committed,
we've
already
agreed
to
do
all
of
that,
but
any
handshake
agreements
that
are
out
there.
We
don't
have
to
commit
and
nothing
is
approved
unless
city
council
and
the
CRA
board
and
the
mayor
prove
it.
And
so
what
we
need
to
do
is
look
at.
C
How
do
we
resolve
these
issues
in
the
community
of
the
people
and
the
community
are
not
happy
that
they're
that
their
roads
have
potholes
all
in
them?
They're
not
happy
that
there
aren't
enough
police
officers
they're,
not
happy.
There
aren't
enough
fire
rescue
vehicles,
our
choices,
we're
going
to
raise
taxes,
we're
going
to
find
money
somewhere
else.
A
Mr
Burton
I
have
one
question
for
you.
Yes,
yes,
when
does
this
public
information
gathering
session
begin?
Has
it
already
begun?
No.
Z
Z
Z
W
That's
that
the
boundary
is
Union
Station
to
the
north
east,
and
then
it
goes
to
gospel's
Meridian,
all
the
way
down
all
the
way
down
to
the
beneficial
Bridge
which
it
stays
on
the
west
side
of
beneficial
Bridge.
There.
Z
A
Okay,
so
I
haven't
I,
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
Let's
do
a
roll
call
vote.
G
First,
I
believe
the
substitute
motion
takes
precedent.
What
I
would
say
is
what
I'm
gathering
from
the
the
boards
discussion
is
in
July.
You
would
like
for
staff
and
legal
to
come
back
with
information
and
about
what
we've
committed
to
in
downtown
already.
What
would
be
the
legal
process
if
you
want
it
to
reduce
the
Tiff
for
downtown?
G
You
know
we
I
understand
Mr
Carlson's
motion
which
he
has
a
defined
percentage
of
25
percent,
perhaps
and
I
and
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
anyone's
mouth,
but
perhaps
you
know,
after
we're
able
to
get
all
the
facts
together
and
look
at
the
information
we
can
present
options
for.
C
Board
member
as
I
understand,
the
substitute
motion
is
only
to
come
back
and
tell
us
what's
already
been
committed.
If
the
substitute
motion
includes
giving
us
information
about
what
how
we
could
reduce
the
amount
going
forward,
then
then
I
can
support
it,
because
it
essentially
does
the
same
thing.
O
Being
in
a
square
there,
till
I
could
get
out,
but
I'm
not
trying
to
get
out
to
try
to
fix
a
solution
that
I
believe
needs
to
be
addressed.
Certainly,
there's
needs
and
and
I
I
wasn't
as
Keen
as
Mr
Citra
was
and
saying
that
there
are
certain
areas
that
still
need
addressing
and
then
there's
a
possibility
of
extending
it
further
so
that
other
parts
of
the
city
could
come
in
and
have
the
same
benefit.
So
I
don't
want
to
go
into
all
those
at
once.
O
I
just
want
to
know
the
figures
that
we
need
to
help,
what
we
committed
and
the
figures
that
we
think
we're
going
to
get
you
in
that
same
time.
So
we
can
make
a
decision.
That
is
one
based
on
facts
on
factual
numbers,
not
just
to
say,
I
want
10
or
50
percent
and
I
have
nothing
with
percentages,
but
I'm,
saying
that
before
I
vote
for
the
Public's
sake,
the
same
ones
we're
talking
about
the
same
ones.
O
We
got
elected
to
represent
that
I'm
not
going
to
make
a
an
agreement
on
something
I,
don't
know
all
the
figures
on.
We
don't
have
a
memory
that
goes
back
four
or
five
years,
two
years
or
three
months
and
all
the
figures
and
the
facts
that
we've
given
and
everything
that
needs.
We
don't
know
those
figures
for
for
me
to
vote
without
knowing
what
that
figure,
just
shoot,
25
or
10.
That's
not
the
way
I
was
taught
in
Jefferson
High
School.
A
Again,
Mr.
W
Burton
has
his
hand
up
yes,
ma'am.
The
directors
have
already
instructed
staff
to
collect
this
information,
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
that.
If
you
just
asked
in
July,
we'll
be
happy
to
bring
that
information
to
you,
we
we're
already
collecting
it
in
a
very
profound
way
for
your
benefit
for
you
to
make
data-driven
decisions
it's
coming
anyway.
Okay,.
G
A
E
A
C
I
would
like
to
make
the
same
motion
I
made
before
our
place.
There
were
the
number
25
with
options
to
reduce
and
then
and
to
follow
the
presentation
that
Miranda
just
proposed
one.
Last.
A
Time,
just
just,
let
me
make
sure
that
the
seconded
okay,
I.
O
C
A
C
E
AC
Thank
you
very
much:
Nicole
Jesus
Nino,
West
Tampa
and
Drew
Park
CRA
manager
at
West,
Tampa,
a
lot
of
exciting
things
are
occurring
and
one
of
the
exciting
things
that
we
have
in
place
right
now
is
our
residential
exterior
grant
program.
We
haven't
really
gone
out
there
very
broadly,
just
yet
as
far
as
advertising
that,
but
so
far
we
have
completed
four
projects
we've
closed
on
them.
That
means
we've
already
paid
out
the
funding,
so
we
replaced
some
roofs.
AC
AC
One
is
the
May
7th
Unity
Fest,
which
is
our
West
Tampa
CR
event
over
at
Julian
B
Lane,
for
us
to
promote
our
programs
and
Grant
programs,
and
also
on
June
1st
we're
planning
a
community
event
over
at
the
MLK
Center,
specifically
just
for
this
grant
program,
so
we
can
actually
work
with
homeowners
out
there
and
help
them
fill
out
their
applications
and
we
hope
to
have
many.
Many
more
events
out
there
and
plus
with
our
Communications
individual
to
start
spreading.
AC
The
word
we've
already
kind
of
got
all
the
Kinks
out
for
the
most
part,
so
we're
happy
about
that.
This
particular
Grant
and
we're
also
working
with
an
additional
right
now,
as
we
speak,
19
households
to
help
them
with
their
Grant
applications.
AC
Our
parking
study
is
basically
coming
to
a
conclusion.
Pretty
soon
we
had
our
final
base.
Hopefully
our
final
community
meeting
on
March
23rd
2023
over
at
MLK
Center
we're
working
with
Pond
and
Company
as
a
consultant.
This
whole
study
started
because
of
the
Main
Street
Corridor
studies
that
was
completed
over
in
2020.
One
of
the
findings
in
that
study
was
to
do
a
parking
study
for
the
Main
Street
area
and
West
tempesty
area
in
general.
AC
Village
Drew
Park
and
Drew
Park.
We
have
many
exciting
projects
as
well.
Most
of
them
are
in
the
study
phase.
This
one
example
here
is
we're
working
with
placemakers
Design
Studios
to
help
us
come
up
with
Concepts
and
pricing
estimates
for
the
Improvement
of
Tampa,
Bay,
linear,
Tampa,
Bay,
Boulevard,
linear
Park,
and
also
for
a
potential
new
community
park
out
on
Hubert
Avenue.
So
the
consultant
presented
at
our
last
CAC
meetings.
AC
We
have
we've
had
already
a
few
Community
meetings
over
at
Hillsborough,
Community
College
and
the
next
steps
is
for
them
to
put
together
cost
estimates.
Then
we
can
use
that
for
budgeting
purposes
or
basically
a
CAC
and
a
CRA
here
can
kind
of
prioritize
what
kind
of
projects
they
want
to
do
over
in
Drew
parks.
O
Appreciate
everybody,
if
I
may
ask
if
there's
a
location
about
one
block
west
of
Lois
I
believe
the
name
is
Rita's
Coolidge
and
Tampa
Bay
Boulevard.
It
used
to
be
a
area
where
semis
would
come
in
after
doing
their
weeklies
and
stay
there
and
park
there
and
it's
all
been
cleaned
out
and
it's
about
an
acre
two
acres.
Three
acres,
four
acres:
it's
a
pretty
big
size
operation.
Can
you
tell
us
what's
going
there?
If
you
know
I.
O
AD
Good
morning
Cedric
and
Craig
East,
Tampa,
cre
manager,
foreign
first
thing
I
would
like
to
highlight
is
a
initiative
we
partnered
with
fifth
third's
bank
and
Habitat
for
Humanity
on
Star
Street,
probably
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
we
received
several
requests
for
some
exterior
housing
rehab
and
we
didn't
have
a
program
in
place
at
that
time
and
we
partnered
with
Fifth
Third
and
Habitat
for
Humanity
to
work
with
several
of
the
residents,
and
there
were
other
volunteers
that
were
there
I
know
the
councilman
Goose
came
and
spoke
to
the
group
assembled
earlier
that
that
morning
very
cool
that
day,
but
we
were
able
to
have
a
positive
effect
on
one
one
block
and
I.
AD
Think
four
or
five
things
have
received
some
attention
since
then.
So
so,
I
wanted
to
highlight
that
the
East
Tampa
overlay
update
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
on
February
13th
and
we'll
be
coming
back
to
the
city
council,
I
believe
in
sometime
in
May
or
June,
for
your
for
your
gratification
tree
framing
update.
AD
We
held
a
meeting
with
the
vendors
on
February
17th,
just
as
a
yearly
or
annual
touch
base
on
some
of
the
programs,
successes,
failures,
challenges
and
to
get
their
viewpoint
on
some
of
the
things
and
how
we
can
improve
and
open
the
lines
of
communication.
Even
better
and
expedite
payment.
AD
East
Tampa
industrial
district
Workshop
was
asked
invited
to
speak
to
a
group
of
business
owners
along
Columbus
Drive,
going
east
of
34th
towards
50th
Street.
Some
of
the
conversations
we
discussed
were
revolving
around
some
of
the
East
Tampa
CRA
Grant
programs
such
as
facade
and
the
like,
and
maybe
expanding
those
programs,
because
they're
those
business
owners
have
such
large
partials.
Fifty
thousand
dollar
match
may
not
go
as
long
go
as
long
as
you
know
if
the
amounts
were
increased,
so
those
conversations
are
ongoing.
The
emergency
Roofing
program.
AD
AD
We
have
failed
and
I'm
happy
to
say
we
filled
the
OSS
three
position
that
was
vacated
by
misuse
last
summer
and
looking
forward
to
onboarding
that
individual
here
very
soon
F
dot,
East
Tampa
streetscapes
meetings
are
going
on
and
have
had
some
good
discussions
about
some
of
the
concerns
that
residents
have
along
Hillsborough,
Avenue
and
Martin
Luther
King,
and
that
those
conversations
will
be
ongoing.
AD
I
would
have
to
highlight
the
Hess
Community
Health
and
education
CRA
Fair
that's
going
to
be
taking
place
at
Middleton,
High
School,
if
I,
don't
I'm,
pretty
sure
our
chair
friend
Tate
will
be
emailing
me
and
that's
going
to
be
taking
place
on
April
29th
from
10
a.m,
to
2
p.m.
So
the
public
is
invited
to
definitely
come
out,
participate
and
learn
more
about
the
cras
and
specifically
Health
checkups,
and
making
sure
that
you
know
we're
taking
care
of
our
bodies.
AD
Public
Safety
Committee
of
East
Tampa
CR
is
also
working
with
mobility
and
the
public
art
department
on
May
13th.
We've
scheduled
to
do
a
crosswalk
in
conversations
with
Mobility
about
some
of
the
thoroughfares
in
East
Tampa
within
the
CRA
that
have
had
some
traffic
incidents
or
fatalities,
34th
and
Cayuga,
and
34th
and
Potter,
which
is
that
intersection
is
where
Potter
Elementary
School
is
so
we
we
will
be
redoing
the
crosswalk
there
and
hopefully
we'll
we'll
have
some
some
other
events
coming
on
in
the
future.
M
I
think
I
I
for
housing,
rehab.
Q
M
I
heard
it
I
understand,
it
was
a
reasoning
with
all
the
contractors
that
so
they're
ready
to
do
work
in
the
city
that
are
part
of
the
jock
program
that
not.
AD
AD
It
was,
it
was
to
open
up
discussions
and
just
kind
of
talk
about
the
jock
program
itself
and.
M
AD
We
were
slated
to
have
the
presentation
in
April,
the
housing
subcommittee,
chairperson,
was
out
of
town
and
we
will
be
bringing
that
to
the
CAC
in
May.
Thank
you.
Yes,
anybody.
M
Else
and
that
that
program,
you
know
I,
think
I.
Think
since
we
already
have
all
these
kind
of
on
board
with
the
city
that
the
job
program
I
believe
it
can
move
faster
with
those
those
individuals
because
there's
more
of
them,
in
other
words,
other
criteria
and
can
move
I,
think
that's!
That's
a
that'd,
be
a
big
win.
I'm,
hoping
it'll
be
win
that
we
can
push
this
stuff
out,
there's
money!
So
those
need
to
say
we
don't
have
money.
M
F
If
you
can
attend,
please
do
and
then,
in
regard
to
the
Centennial
Park
RFQ
that
was
issued,
we
received
six
strong
responses,
so
the
committee
That
was
supposed
to
shortlist
six
down
to
possibly
two
or
three
decided
to
actually
interview
all
six
responses:
their
Consultants
that
responded
to
that
RFQ.
So
they'll
be
an
interview
of
all
six
on
May,
the
second
and
then,
if
you
haven't
had
a
chance
to
see
the
new
mural,
that's
located
at
the
Ybor
CRA
office,
building
at
2015,
East
sub,
2015
East,
7th
Avenue.
F
K
M
Great
I
see
you
still
here:
I've
got,
I've
got
emails
and
I
don't
know,
Miss
heels
has
gotten
or
not,
but
apparently
the
group
that
was
here
this
morning
they've
sent
several
emails
and
rubbish
to
a
tree
that
is
in
there
and
I'll
have
CT
shoes.
If
you
list
the
product
can
send
you
that
email
as
well,
that
is
a
tree.
It
is
inside
a
Memorial
Park
that
is
I,
guess
is
fallen
over
or
is
about
to
fall
about
to
fall
over
and
it's
uprooting
some
of
the
the
the
the
Stones
headstones.
M
So
if
we'll
get
to
the
CT,
maybe
get
something
together,
take
a
look,
and
maybe
she
hasn't
Miss
Hill
hasn't
got
to
it
yet,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
we
get
a
look.
AD
At
that
right,
yeah,
we'll
normally
I,
know
that
it
happened
last
summer
and
that
was
actually
brought
to
my
attention
by
Miss
Copeland
Miller,
an
area
where
her
family
is
located.
But
we'd
have
to
have
some
discussions
about
the
you
know
what.
M
This
yeah,
because
private
property
at.
X
M
M
AB
H
K
H
The
services
agreement
you
were
provided
a
substitution
for
Mr
Massey.
Yesterday,
there
was
only
only
the
table
in
the
substitution
was
changed.
The
services
agreement
for
the
most
part
is
this
is
very
similar
in
structure
to
what
has
been
done
in
the
past
several
years.
There
have
been
three.
There
are
three
changes
that
I
want
to
point
out
to
you
under
article
3,
where
it
talks
article
3,
section
A
that
talks
about
CRA,
director
and
staff.
H
The
change
that
was
made
in
this
area
was
really
aligns
to
the
direction
that
you've
set
in
the
restructuring
of
the
CRA
plus
the
positions
that
we
requested.
This
excuse
me.
H
H
Additionally,
in
this
Services
agreement,
the
last
service
agreement
went
until
2022.
this
service
agreement,
we're
requesting
that
you
take
it
back
all
the
way
to
October
1
2022
and
instead
of
Us.
Coming
back
to
you
in
October
of
this
year
with
another
Services
agreement,
we're
just
asking
you
to
take
it
out
until
the
end
of
2024,
the
fiscal
year
2024.
H
in
section
B
of
article
3,
the
compensation
piece.
This
is
where
we
talk
about
about
the
changes
to.
If
there
is
ever
a
vacancy
in
the
CRA
director
position
that
the
city
would
provide
an
interim
CRA
director
in
this
section,
the
CRA
board
or
the
CRA
as
an
agency
would
reimburse
for
those
costs.
It
also
addresses
the
compensation
of
interim
or,
if
there
were
to
be
some
kind
of
conference
compensation
for
the
administrator
and
Deputy
Administrator
to
be
serving
in
this
role.
H
It
addresses
that
pursuant
to
changes
in
the
Personnel
manual
as
requested
and
then
finally,
the
last
change
to
the
services
agreement
is
under
payments,
which
is
article
four.
This
is
the
biggest
change
this
restructure
that
we're
that
I've
proposed
to
you
guys
is
to
have
not
CRA
staff
being
geographically
only
working
in
one
area.
They
would
work
in
all
districts
based
on
need
using
their
special,
the
Specialties
that
they
have
and
the
way
that
we're
doing
that
is
during
the
expense
allocation
by
percentage
in
each
CRA
District.
H
K
H
Five
and
six
five
and
six
okay,
yes,
five
and
six-
is
addressed
in
this
Services
memo.
Well,.
H
I
just
wanted
to
do
the
presentation
and
cover
all
of
that,
and
then
we
could
ask
questions.
I
mean
we
could
discuss
it
so
item
five,
the
Arts
position
and
the
Staffing
that's
included
in
the
services
agreement.
H
Item
number
six
is
taken
care
of
through
the
services
agreement
and
the
number
10
is
the
services
agreement.
So
what
you
see
on
the
Elmo
I
was
just
talking
to
you
about
the
the
chart
that
shows
the
allocation,
the
expense
allocation
and
what
it's
broken
down
into
is
by
the
size
of
the
the
Tiff
increment
and
so
in
2022.
H
The
expenses
that
were
paid
for
a
salary
was
three
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
with
this
adjustment
and
doing
it
based
on
that
percentage,
the
proposed
reimbursement
for
2022
would
have
been
339
000,
just
showing
you
that
it
went
up
a
little
bit,
but
not
a
lot
Central
Park
would
go
up,
would
have
gone
up,
but
the
biggest
the
biggest
change
would
be
to
the
downtown
non-core
with
their
percentage,
the
other
districts
they
went
up
slightly.
H
They
went
up
slightly,
some
of
them
went
down,
so
it
just
that's
the
difference
in
how
we're
doing
the
calculation,
but
the
benefits
to
that
is
what
you
have
moved
forward
with
with
this
restructuring
is
to
having
the
benefit
of
all
the
CRA
staff
working
and
where
the
need
is
working
on
all
the
districts.
So
this
was
the
best
way
to
take
care
of
those
expenses.
M
You
know
the
compensation
here,
the
the
numbers
when
I
look
at
what
the
director
was
currently
making,
then
when
that
person
resigned
to
now
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
the
dollar
amount
come
up
to
make
sure
they're,
probably
compensated
so
I,
don't
know
if
Mr
business
where
to
come
on,
explain
now
you're
here
to
explain
it
but
I
like
to
know
because
I
want
to
make
sure
both
of
you
are
properly
compensated
to
the
penny,
and
not
just
you
know
just
say:
here's
a
blanket
number
here
and
it
doesn't
come
up
to
the
standard.
H
Thank
you
for
the
comments
under
the
compensation
section
of
the
services
agreement.
It
references
it.
It
gives
the
Chief
of
Staff
the
authority
to
make
any
adjustments
for
compensation
according
to
the
Personnel
manual.
So
in
his
discretion
he
can
make
that
what
you're
asking
for
I
believe
what
you're
asking
for
is.
If
a
position
was
vacant
at
165
000
for
a
full
year,
you're
suggesting
to
split
that
165
thousand
dollars
as
a
form
of
compensation
for
the
two
of
us
and
respectfully
I.
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that.
H
H
M
And
that's
not
what
I'm
saying
what
I'm
saying
is
from
the
time
you
Mr
Jungle
took
position
into
now,
whatever
City
time
that
was
equated,
that
you're
a
new
city
business
for
the
CRA
business
I
want
to
know
that
to
make
sure
that
you're
getting
your
money
and
what
the
percentage
of
that
I
think
the
city
percentage
of
someone
do
some
extra
like
four
percent.
So
what
is
that
percentage
you're
going
to
get
now
for
this
particular
assignment
subtracting
whatever
City
time?
G
That's
what
I'm,
looking
at
a
couple
of
things
and
Mr
Bennett
had
a
conflict
so
he's
not
here
today
and
I.
Don't
know,
I
can't
give
you
exact
figures,
but
a
couple
things
we
don't
at
their
level
or
they
don't
keep
time
based
on
when
they're
doing
their
City
job
and
when
they're
doing
their
CRA
job.
So
there's
no
tracking
of
that
internally
in
our
in
our
system.
G
What
what
this
agreement?
The
services
agreement
allows
is
for
a
supplement
or
a
bonus
or
an
additional
amount
to
be
paid
to
miss
Travis
and
to
Mr
drunko
for
for
providing
services
to
the
CRA,
because
they're
working
this
job
on
top
of
their
other
jobs.
What
has
also
occurred
at
the
same
time
is
that
there's
been
a
change
to
the
Personnel
manual
that
would
allow
the
chief
of
staff
to
pay
more
than
the
four
percent
cap
in
these
limited
sorts
of
instances.
G
M
Does
he
does
he
does
go
back
to
the
service
agreement
because
the
Social
Security
says
that
the
director
answers
to
the
CRA
board
correct
yeah?
So
who
says
in
that
case
who
sets
the
director's
salary
is
IT
personnel?
Does
this
board
set
the
Personnel
salary?
No,
just
like
we,
the
city
council,
supposedly
she
should
be
saying
the
city
council,
attorney's
salary.
So
it's.
G
Typically
set
in
the
budget
that
you
approve
either
a
city
council
or
the
CRA,
what
that
salary
is
going
to
be,
but
we're
in
been
in
a
strange
situation
for
a
while
now,
where
you
do
have
a
CRA
director
position
there,
but
it
has
been
empty
and
so
you've
had
Miss,
Travis
and
Mr
drum
go
filling
that
in
on
an
interim
basis.
Now
is
that
the
entire
amount
going
to
be
paid
over
to
them
under
this
I.
Don't
believe!
G
M
Just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
irregardless
if
they
did
city
city
work
and
those
CRA
work.
Irregards
of
that
it
should
be
what
irregardless
of
what
you
you
say,
because
their
time
is
not
calculated
like.
Oh
the
city,
employees
I
just
want
to
make
sure
these
folks
have
done
a
great
job
that
their
property.
G
And
I
believe
that
they're
going
to
get
a
supplement
to
recognize
their
additional
services
that
that
goes
above.
What,
typically
you
would
get
is
to
recognize
supplemental,
Services
I
think
that's
the
intent.
But
again
we
don't
break
up
our
time.
That
way
and
I
think
for
Mr
Bennett's
perspective
and
I
don't
mean
to
speak
for
him
is
that
you
know
the
time
that
they
spend
doing
Siri
work
takes
away
from
what
the
time
that
they
would
be
spending
on
their
other
City
positions.
K
K
O
30
in
the
afternoon,
not
in
the
morning
right
well,
we
might
be
here
till
4.
Let
me
ask
you,
please
miss
Travis
and
Mr
Rumble
I'm,
not
going
to
ask
you
for
a
specific
number
between
the
three
of
you
yourself,
Mr
Rumble
and
Mr
Bennett,
and
have
you
all
come
to
an
understanding
with
Mr
Bennett?
Yes,
sir,
are
you
satisfied
with
that
number?
Whatever?
The
number
is
because
I
don't
want
to
talk
about
it
privately
I,
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me.
Am
I
am
I
saying
that
you
are
satisfied
with
it.
I.
E
O
Z
E
C
I
mean
I
know
that
board
member
Goods
has
worked
hard
on
this
and
push
hard
for
it.
This
is
a
nice
meeting.
What
I
suggest
two
things
that
we
do,
because
we
have
to
like
up
or
down
do
something
today.
I
would
suggest
that
you
make
a
motion
pick
the
dollar
number.
You
think
that
the
two
of
them
should
share,
make
a
motion
that
we
ask
Chief
Bennett
to
consider
that
number
to
equitably,
distribute
it
to
the
two
and
then
and
then
by
the
current
agreement.
C
He
can
make
up
that
that
that
mind,
but
at
least
that's
one,
more
Hail
Mary
to
try
to
maybe
I,
don't
know
what
the
numbers
are
either,
but
it
might
be
a
bigger
number
than
what's
there.
The
second
thing
is
I
think
we
ought
to
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
do
this
now
or
I
have
to
wait
till
after
we
approve
the
agreement,
but
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
create
an
addendum
that
enables
the
CRA
board
to
issue
bonuses
to
this,
to
the
CRA
staff.
C
My
I
I
moved
it
to
to
ask
staff
to
come
back
on
in
the
July
meeting
to
present
a
a
proposed
amendment
to
the
contract
for
approval.
That
would
enable
the
CRA
board
to
issue
bonuses
to
see
our
step.
G
C
C
Embedded
embedded
in
this
would
be
that
the
since
the
City
offers
legal
and
other
HR
advice
to
us
that
if
we
propose
bringing
this
addendum
back
in
July,
then
they
would
have
the
CRA
staff
would
have
a
chance
to
meet
with
legal
and
and
the
HR
and
cheap
Bennett,
and
they
could
decide
what
they
think
and
meet
with
it.
C
They
can
decide
whether
they
need
to
modify
the
plans,
but
if,
if
we
don't
have
any
control
to
set
the
the
salaries
of
of
the
CRA
staff-
and
we
don't
have
any
control
to
bonus
them,
we
don't
have
any
control
to
hold
them
accountable.
C
Then
then
they
don't
really
report
to
us,
their
City
staff,
and
so
we
we
need
some
lever
to
be
able
to
motivate
staff
to
to
perform
at
a
higher
standard.
So
anyway,
my
my
proposal
is
out.
K
O
I'm
surprised
to
see
something
like
this
coming
after
we
want
to
reduce
the
budget
of
some
of
water,
some
maybe
one
to
start
with
another's
by
25
percent.
So
our
Madagascar
races
I
ask
both
individuals
that
are
here.
If
they
were
satisfied,
they
said
yes,
sorry,
but
then
they
must
have
spoke
to
whoever's,
making
the
decision
that
would
be
Mr
Bennett.
So
now
we
want
to
give
something
whatever
it
is,
because
we
don't
even
know
what
they
got.
O
O
That
means
that,
at
one
time,
yet
it
takes
part
of
this
time
to
go,
do
part
of
that
job.
Maybe
you
had
to
work
a
couple
hours
more
day,
I
don't
know,
but
I
I
just
don't
operate
that
way
and
I'm
not
opposed
to
voting
by
myself.
I've
done
that
many
times
and
I'm
I'm
at
odd
I'm
surprised
that
we're
doing
this.
We
want
to
further
tear
apart
this
government
by
continuing
saying
that
the
administration
and
the
CRA
are
in
conflict.
O
Well,
if
you
don't
want
the
employers
to
be
city,
employees
start
your
own
employees
and
see
what
happens.
You
won't
have
enough
money
to
do
anything
so
I'm
just
saying
that
I'm
through
playing
games
and
I,
don't
mean
disrespectful
to
anyone
here.
But
if
I
have
to
vote
alone,
the
rest
of
my
life
as
long
as
I'm
here
I,
don't
mind
doing
it.
Thank
you
very
much
and
have
a
very
nice
day.
K
M
Can
put
it
to
bed
Mr
Randall
due
respect,
all
respect
and
I
respect
you
highly
so
you've
been
in
a
long
long
time,
but
you
know
you
ask
them
if
they're
satisfied
they're
not
going
to
tell
you
they're
unsatisfied
sir
I'm,
just
being
honest
with
you,
they're,
not
going
to
tell
you
that
they're
city
employees,
man,
I,
can
look
at
that
police
officer
right
there.
He
know
how
the
game
is
played.
He
ain't,
gonna,
say
he's
not
unhappy,
there's
a
consequence
when
you
do
that,
I've
been
employed,
I
know
how
that
works.
M
Like
I
say
it
all
the
time.
Some
of
you
have
not
been
city
employees,
you
don't
know
how
the
game
is
played
or
how
the
Playbook
is
so
they're
going
to
say.
They're
satisfied
used
to
moving
on
and
they're
gonna
give
them
whatever
they
give
them.
I'm
hoping
it's
the
right.
It's
the
right
thing,
but
I
know
it's
not
all
they
deserve,
but
we
can
move
on
and
vote
on
it.
Mr
Carlson.
You
know
I'm
not
going
to
make
a
motion
reference
to
it.
They
said
they're
satisfied
but
I
know
in
their
hearts.
Z
H
Let
me
at
least
drumgo
and
I
are
the
only
two:
there
we're
city
employees
and
in
this
compensation,
the
services
agreement
with
this
compensation
piece.
That
would
be
the
portion
of
CRA,
but
we
are
paid
from
City
general
fund
service.
H
May
I
offer
some
comments.
Please
I
appreciate
this
conversation
is
the
reason
we're
having
this
conversation
is
because
of
the
work
that
we're
doing.
We
would
much
rather
have
full-time
people,
hard-working
people
with
grit
working
on
our
team
than
to
be
compensated
extra
for
doing
extra
work.
We
are
here
because
we're
public
servants,
we
love
what
we
do
we're
good
at
it,
and
so
I
would
allow
us
to
allow
us
give
us
the
tools
that
we
need
to
do.
H
The
work
which
is
some
of
that
is
in
here
with
the
five
full-time
equivalent
positions
regarding
bonuses
and
rewarding
staff.
I
appreciate
that
I
believe
that
that's
directed
to
the
work
that
we're
doing,
but
we
receive
a
paycheck
for
the
work
that
we're
supposed
to
do.
That's
the
motivation,
and
that
should
be
the
motivation,
we're
paid
and
we
don't
do
bonuses
at
the
city.
C
And
as
I
said
earlier,
the
Administration
has
worked
really
closely
with
us
the
last
year
or
so,
but
keep
in
mind
that
two
years
before
that
we
had
rooms
full
of
people
coming
complaining
because
not
enough
things
were
getting
done
and
we
were
making
the
motions,
but
nothing
was
getting
done,
and
so
this
to
me
this
is
a
I'm
just
going
to
be
transparent.
C
It's
a
negotiation
between
the
city
staff
and
the
CRA
that
we
need
to
think
creatively,
because
the
CRA
needs
to
be
more
Nimble
and
move
faster
and
get
more
results,
and
the
way
you
do
that
is
to
first
of
all
hold
people
accountable
and,
and
hopefully
the
the
new
executive
director
will
have
some
ability
to
do
that,
working
with
City
staff
and
then
and
then
the
second
thing
would
be
to
reward
people
and
I'm.
Not
my
proposal
has
nothing
to
do
with
these
two
folks.
C
The
Proposal
is
just
to
to
to
ask
the
city
staff
to
do
it.
Have
a
discussion
about
amending
the
contract
so
that
we
see
our
a
board,
have
the
right
to
put
forward
a
bonuses
and
to
board
member
citros.
Very
good
comment
most
likely.
What
would
happen
is
that
the
CRA
director
would
propose
to
us
bonuses
for
their
staff
and
then
we
would
approve
it.
So
all
this
Does
this
does
not.
C
C
If
we
put
in
the
contract,
then
we
have
to
work
with
the
cre
director
to
figure
out
how
we
would
bonus
people,
how
much
and
for
what
and
and
the
whole
purpose
is
to
hold
people
accountable
so
that
they
hit
their
goals.
If
they
come
back
in
July
and
say
we
can't
do
it
absolutely
not,
then
we
can
ask
questions
and
then
we're
stuck.
Z
C
B
Z
C
C
We
don't
have
that
and
they're
asking
us
to
go
ahead
and
approve
this,
without
that
there
are
the
buckets
and
you
just
presented
like
a
working
straw,
man
on
the
on
the
dollars
which
look
okay,
but
but
in
July
they're,
going
to
come
back
and
ask
us
to
approve
the
budget,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
just
before
we
make
a
motion
to
ask
City
to
ask
CRA
staff
to
report
in
the
July
meeting
on
the
the
budget
that
was
contracted
for
each
of
the
last
four
years
and
the
the
budget
amendments
that
were
approved
for
each
of
the
last
four
years.
C
AB
E
K
C
Second,
one
is
I
think
because
in
Prior
years
the
contract
included
a
dollar
amount.
I
would
like
to
ask
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
ask
staff
to
come
back
in
the
July
meeting
to
present
a
budget.
Sorry,
a
contract
amendment
that
would
include
a
budget
amount,
so
that
would
go
Morris
and
I
talked
about
this
yesterday.
That
would
go
hand
in
hand
with
the
budget
approval.
So
we
would
approve
the
budget
and
then
separately.
We
would
approve
an
amendment
to
the
contract,
which
would
include
a
budget
number
okay.
K
E
O
H
H
O
G
C
Sir,
and
and
the
purpose
of
this
is
just
to
show
the
public
that
we're
being
good
custodians
of
the
money
that
we're
you
know,
sitting
with
the
CRA
hat,
trying
to
hold
the
city
accountable,
City
comes
back
and
says
it's
more
money.
We
can
always
approve
that
another
time,
but
it
at
least
puts
it
in
a
contract,
so
it
makes
it
more
formal.
We.
C
C
You
last
thing
is
we
talked
about
staff.
The
city
has
a
lot
of
Staff
members.
The
CRA
has
very
few
and,
in
this
whole
analysis
that
that
Nicole's
been
doing
over
the
last
few
months.
We've
gotten
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
public,
also
about
performance
of
the
different
CRA
districts
and
I
I'm.
C
Not
talking
about
anybody
in
particular,
but
I
would
just
ask
that
you
I'm
not
going
to
make
a
motion,
but
just
ask
that
you
go
through
and
as
you're
restructuring,
don't
don't
take
somebody
and
put
them
in
a
cubicle
downstairs
like
like
really
find
are
we
getting
CRA
doesn't
have
much
money
to
deal
with,
so
are
we
really
getting
our
money's
worth?
C
There's
been
a
lot
of
criticism
from
CAC
members
and
others
about
the
amount
that
we're
spending
on
people
and
overhead
and
that
we're
expanding
people,
and
so
at
the
same
time
as
we
might
be
adding
positions
or
reallocating
if
there
are
positions
or
people
that
we
need
to
cut.
We
need
to
do
that
too,
and
it
might
be
that
they're
reallocated
somewhere
else
within
the
city,
but
we
need
to
be
able
to
have
the
we
need
to
have
the
ability
to
go
back
to
Chief
of
Staff
of
whomever
and
say
hey.
C
We
don't
need
these
other
two
positions,
we're
we're
hiring
different
positions
because
we
have
to
make
sure
we
keep
the
budget
costs
as
low
as
possible.
So
just
ask
with
you
and
the
new
CRA
director.
If
you
please
look
at
all
those
positions
and
make
sure
that
we
never
you
think,
that's
there
and
that
we're
getting
full
productivity
from
everybody
as
to
your
requirements.
Thank
you.
K
O
We
have
over
4
400
employees
in
the
city
and
the
CRA
How
many
they
have
I
really
don't
know
right
now,
but
you
can't
you're
mixing
apples
and
oranges,
and
the
city
has
very
different
departments
in
the
CRA
that
that
are
not
in
the
CRA
and
they
don't
do
any
type
of
work
like
the
CRA
does.
So
you
have
to
compare
yourself
with
something:
that's
likable
and
another
CRA
outside
the
city
of
Tampa
that
has
a
comparable
amount
of
same
employees
versus
a
comparable
amount
of
the
population
of
that
City
or
that
entity.
K
M
M
Well,
if
you
only
got
so
many
staff
on
a
CRA,
but
you
got
a
big
city
over
here,
but
yet
the
city
is
going
to
run
to
do
what
the
city
needs
to
do
regularly
and
this
CRA
person
can't
get
their
stuff
through,
because
the
city
business
comes
first,
that's
what
I
think
is
the
challenge
of
making
sure
you
designate
people
in
your
CRA
that
can
move
this
stuff.
If
you've
got
a
pure
procurement
person
in
your
CRA
that
can
move
their
items.
M
If
you
got
a
person
that
does
housing
or
a
staff
that
can
move
their
stuff
versus
HDD
to
move
their
stuff,
I
think
that's
the
key
of
how
you
get
some
stuff
moved
to
have
designated
people
to
go
to.
If
I
got
to
go
to
Moreno
you're,
the
guy
and
myself,
I
go
to
and
I
ain't
got
to
go
through
five
other
people
in
the
house,
but
I
could
go
to
you
and
you're
handling
all
our
CRA
work
we
getting
it
done.
So
that's
just
my
theory.
M
H
Ma'am,
the
four
positions
that
we're
adding
exclusively
for
housing
they're
to
work
only
on
CRA
housing
initiatives,
so
that
would
move
that,
but
I
want
to
I
take
issue
if
any
CRA
manager
or
somebody
on
Siri
staff,
saying
that
City
business
is
coming
for
us
in
the
internal
departments.
It's
not
true.
It's
not
true,
so
I
also
going
to
address
an
email
that
you
guys
receives
in
your
inbox,
saying
that
how
long
things
take
to
move?
Yes,
it's
been
historically
taken
a
long
time
to
move.
H
There's
operational
challenges
that
we've
had
there's
been
turnover
that
you
have
there's
a
lot
of
bureaucratic
red
tape
that
doesn't
need
to
be
there
with
some
of
these
programs
in
regard,
but
we
are
being
held
to
a
different
standard
and
timeline
than
what
was
previously
allowed
in
this
space
right.
Everybody.
H
Wants
the
results
like
tomorrow,
it
takes
forever
to
make
some
of
these
things
not
forever,
but
it
takes
a
long
time
to
make
some
of
the
changes
that
we're
making
you're
moving
in
naval
ship
to
go
a
different
direction.
It
takes
time
we
are
doing
the
work
and
laying
the
foundation
to
do
that.
So
I
take
issues.
If
somebody
is
saying
that
it
goes
to
a
different
internal
City
service
department-
and
it
goes
to
that's
not
true.
H
That's
not
true
and
and
I'll
also
say
that
some
of
the
things
that
are
not
happening
is
because
of
the
policies
that
you
have
or
have
not
addressed
with
the
cacs
like.
So
you
have
cacs
and
subcommittees
I'm
going
to
say
it
here,
because
I've
said
it
before.
Those
subcommittees
to
the
cacs
is
was
a
substitution
for
what
wasn't
happening
on
a
staff
level.
H
Okay,
and
so,
if
things
are
being
slowed
down,
I
showed
you
a
presentation
of
247
meetings
that
we're
having
to
to
staff.
You
have
13
people
Staffing
247
meetings.
We
are
trying
to
write
that
ship,
but
there's
a
shared
responsibility
in
this
there's
a
shared
responsibility
by
the
cacs
in
knowing
their
Lane
and
knowing
their
role.
There's
a
shared
responsibility
by
this
CRA
board
for
you
to
make
hard
decisions
regarding
policies
in
the
cacs
moving
forward.
H
There's
a
shared
responsibility
on
the
administration
and
I.
Think
all
of
us
want
the
same
thing
to
happen,
but
it's
not
going
to
happen
overnight
and
we're
holding
people
accountable.
So
councilman
Carlson
is
asking
for
me
to
look
at
positions
and
job
descriptions.
We
will
start
looking
at
job
descriptions
because,
if
I'm
working
at
150
percent,
everybody
on
my
team
need
to
be
working,
150
percent
and
so
I'm
saying
that
to
you
as
a
CRA
board
and
I'm,
also
saying
it
to
the
CRA
staff.
H
They
hear
me
I'm,
not
playing
games
right
now,
right,
the
CRA,
the
cras
have
an
expiration
date.
We
should
be
all
operating
under
a
sense
of
urgency
to
be
out
of
a
job
in
cras.
That's
the
kind
of
urgency
and
work
that
we're
doing
with
cras
and
that's
the
expectation
that
I
have-
and
this
is
I'm
saying
it
here-
I'm
standing
on
camera,
but
I'm
saying
it
for
them
to
hear
me
too.
That's
the
expectation,
I
have
and
that's
what's
going,
what
we're
going
to
do
moving
forward!
I!
U
H
That's
good,
there's
there's
work
to
be
done.
We're
here,
doing
the
work
and
I
ask
that
your
favorable
approval
of
the
services
agreement
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
making
the
changes
that
you
have
done.
You've
done
the
heavy
lifting
in
having
these
difficult
conversations.
The
last
several
months
you've
made
incremental
decisions.
The
services
agreement
ties
that
up
as
well
all
right
I
got
you.
K
Z
C
Real
fast
Nicole
to
the
to
the
what
we
were
saying
about
staff
as
you're
handing
off
to
the
new
person,
if
you
could
work
with
her
and
I
guess,
Chief
of
Staff
to
make
sure
there's
to
what
board
member
Miranda
was
saying.
The
the
work
in
the
CRA
is
different
than
the
work
in
other
City
departments,
and
so
we
need
to
make
sure,
there's
measurable
accountability
and
standards
and
that
that's
reviewed
regularly
by
the
new
CRA
director
and
probably
in
in
tandem
with
HR
or
chief
of
staff.
C
E
K
Ahead,
so
item
number
11
I
believe
is
the
next
resolution
for
approval
so
move
sorry.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
from
council
member
Good,
Sam
councilmember
Viera,
all
in
favor
all
right
all
right.
Next
up
is
item
number
12..
So
we
have
a
motion
and
council
member
Viera
second
from
council
member
Miranda,
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed.
All
right
item
number
13.
motion
from
council
member
Miranda,
second
from
council
member
Goods,
all
in
favor
all
right.
Any
opposed
item
number
14..
K
X
O
K
Motion
from
council
member
Miranda,
second
from
the
council
member
Vieira,
all
in
favor
aye,
any
opposed
item
number
19.
E
O
K
X
M
X
W
K
X
K
C
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
real
fast
to
board
member
goods
and
board
member
sitro,
whose
last
meeting
it
is
today
and
just
thank
you
for
partnering
with
us
all
in
the
last
four
years.
Thank
you
for
your
hard.
AA
K
And
I
Echo
those
sentiments
both
work
very,
very,
very,
very,
very
hard
you're,
always
on
the
community
and
you're
not
going
away
just
because
you're
not
sitting
up
here.
I
know
you're
going
to
be
just
as
involved,
and
the
people
appreciate
you
so
any
anybody
else.
No
anything!
No.
AA
Just
just
Echo
that
and
I
mean
the
CRA,
the
things
that
that
the
CRA
has
done
in
terms
of
changing
the
scope
of
the
CRA
with
these
two
gentlemen
has
been
tremendous,
so
I
act
with
those
sentiments.