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C
Good
afternoon
City
Council,
my
name
is
Berlin
I
found
out
I'm
no
longer
a
formal
housing
material,
I
found
out
I'm
no
longer
low-income
housing
material,
I
found
out
recently.
I
am
poor
housing
material,
that's
I'm,
so
poor
I
can't
afford
the
old
arm.
We
got
unhealthy
conditions,
we
got
cockroaches
mo.
We
got
dangerous
crime,
we're
talking
about
drugs
and
gangs,
low
water
pressure,
bad
smells
and
noise,
but
the
government
says
I'm
obligated
to
guarantee
poor
black
people
everyone,
the
rights
to
live
in
security,
peace
and
dignity.
C
Today,
I
want
to
ask
here
in
Temple,
where,
due
to
poor
black
people
stay
under
the
bridge
behind
that
park,
the
gentleman
was
speaking
about
gathering
her
things
from
around
the
corner.
I
sit
here
this
morning:
I,
listen
at
all
this
money's
being
spent
2,
3
9
2900.
Where
do
the
poor
P
o
ro
live?
Where
do
we
reside
at
right
now?
The
conditions
I
want
you
to
remember
these
numbers
215
over
121.
C
That's
my
blood
pressure
last
Thursday
because
I
couldn't
be
here,
because
these
are
the
conditions
that
I
personally
live
in
and
I'm
sure
there's
somebody
else
who
have
cockroaches
mo
dangerous
environment,
low
water
pressure,
bad
smells
and
unnecessary
noise.
I
cannot
be
the
only
person
here
so
I
come
today
for
self
I've
come
for
everybody
else
who
is
so
poor
they
can't
afford
200
are
on
a
bus
pass
to
come
down,
hand,
see
you
now.
I
have
a
work.
Credit
of
16
work
credits
for
people
who
don't
know
that's
in
TV
land.
C
C
C
Again,
it
is
the
government's
responsibility
to
provide
adequate
housing,
safe
housing,
secure
housing,
peace
and
to
have
some
dignity
where
I
reside
at
and
right
now,
these
nonprofit
organizations,
I
miss
the
person
who
spoke
about
the
nonprofit
organization,
but
I
need
to
let
her
know.
Somebody
need
to
check
that
nonprofit
organization
and
find
out
who
is
spending
the
money
cuz
that
grant
money.
That
I
last
heard
about
I
haven't
seen
a
dime
of
a
spent
anyway
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
day.
D
Good
morning,
whatever
okay
event,
Louis
campaign,
promises,
trust
me
believe
in
me
hold
me
accountable.
Those
are
some
of
the
words
that
I
heard
when
all
y'all
were
running
for
office,
and
this
is
what
I
expect
for
y'all
to
do,
because
if
you
asked
us
to
do
this,
for
you
then
I'm
asking
you
and
we're
constantly
coming
down
here.
Every
Thursday
givin
up
our
time
of
the
day,
giving
up
our
hours
our
work,
our
livelihood,
to
come
down
here.
To
state
this.
D
We
don't
have
the
money
to
hire
a
firm,
a
law
firm
or
anything
to
come,
speak
on
our
behalf.
We
do
it
ourselves.
It
takes
a
lot.
Let
me
tell
you,
she
talked
about
them
or
arm
I
got
that,
and
it
takes
a
lot
out
of
my
time
to
do
that.
One
of
the
things
is
the
residents
in
East.
Tampa
has
been
overlooked,
forgotten
taking
advantage
of,
and
most
of
them
have
a
sense
of
hopelessness.
I
hear
that
the
the
Ybor
City
they
had
like
five
different
beautiful
things
that
they
were
doing
to.
D
Let
the
people
know
that
christmas
is
coming.
We
got
nothing,
my
baby
Casey,
nothing!
Other
than
what
I
put
in
her
house-
okay,
nothing!
That's
all
I'm
saying.
Is
she
two
years
old,
so
it's
sis
of
hopelessness
in
our
community
and
I
want
you
to
know
when
y'all
thinking
about
these
trains
and
trolley
stops
and
everything
coming
downtown.
That's
a
good
thing,
but
people
in
East
Tampa
live
in
downtown
to
stop
a
train
or
trolley
in
East.
Tampa.
D
Give
us
something
to
go
on
and
also
I
appreciate
what
you
did
for
Fair,
Oaks,
removing
that
one
rat.
But
if
we
all
know
if
one
rat
was
down
because
one
don't
give
birth
to
one
when
it
comes
to
rodents
and
rats
they're
more
rats
there,
it
is
time
to
tear
Fair
Oaks
down
and
give
us
a
new
Park.
Please
give
us
a
new
Park.
It
is
time
for
that.
The
other
thing
is:
is
that
y'all
need
to
talk
about
these
roundabouts
y'all
need
to
talk
about
who's.
D
Getting
the
deals
on
these
roundabouts
y'all
need
to
talk
about
voting
on
whether
we
should
keep
them
or
whether
they
should
go
cuz.
We
have
had
enough
okay
of
y'all
shoving
food
down
our
throat
and
telling
us
what's
best
for
us,
but
y'all
come
to
us
and
asked
us
for
our
vote
and
we
were
there
for
you,
we're
asking
for
you
to
be
there
for
us
another
thing:
the
executive
director.
It
needs
two
reports
to
this
board.
It
doesn't
need
to
go
to
the
mayor.
D
E
G
Afternoon,
I'm
Bishop
Michelle
be
patty
I've.
Just
like
this
point
of
order.
If
council
don't
want
us
to
see
anything
back
to
you
all,
don't
call
us
by
name
and
say
things
to
us
point
of
order.
Secondly,
I
want
to
start
by
the
Super
Bowl
I
went
to
the
meeting
late
this
week,
the
contracts
the
bar
has
been
set
to
high
I,
don't
see
any
black
people
getting
any
work
out
of
this
Super
Bowl
there.
They
have
a
list
of
criteria
that
person
the
average
person
would
not
be
able
to
meet.
G
So
that's
just
a
smoking
mirror
that
they're
doing
talking
about
the
Super
Bowl
I
want
to
commend
the
CRA
of
Ybor
City
on
the
businesses
that
they
brought
into
the
area
on
their
Christmas
lighting.
All
I
hear
about
it.
East
Tampa
was
blight,
rose
trash.
There's
a
problem
here.
Why?
Why
would
we
have
to
go
look
for
Christmas
lighting
if
they
are
able
to
produce
something
they
should
be
able
to
be
done
over
there.
We're
not
why
businesses
are
not
being
accumulated
in
East
Tampa.
G
Don't
tell
us
about
East
Tampa
and
all
we
can
see
it's
darkness.
That's
why
were
children
I
act
in
the
way
they're,
looking
and
and
acting
up,
because
people
are
playing
games
with
the
money
when
I
hear
about
transparency,
and
then
I
hear
about
the
CAA
our
chair
having
to
accuse
herself,
because
she
went
on
a
trip
that
she
should
not
have
gone
on?
That's
a
problem,
so
we
cannot
sit
here
and
allow
one
thing
to
go
in
East
Tampa
and
we
give
claps
an
award
for
things
going
on
other
parts
of
this
community.
G
You
all
should
be
concerned
about
that.
You
all
should
be
asking
the
question.
We
shouldn't
have
to
sit
here
two
all
day
and
all
night
to
get
up
here
and
say
what
you
all
need
to
be
saying
to
these
people
and
once
again
I'm
an
echo
from
event.
You
need
to
have
the
CRA
executive
boy
meet
with
you
out.
The
mayor
has
enough
on
her
plate.
We
don't
need
to
give
her
anymore.
You
all
need
to
hammer
so
that
y'all
can
bring
butts
in
here
and
we
held
people
accountable.
G
The
community
is
sick
and
tired
of
paying
for
taxes
and
seeing
their
dollars
going
nowhere.
Fair
Oaks,
that's
the
center
that
has
been
used.
It's
been
people
from
children's
seniors
all
attendance
center.
It
need
to
be
torn
down.
Why?
Because
money
was
already
allocated
for
it.
It's
we're
not
asking
for
anything
that
was
not
promised
promises
being
made
over
and
over
and
over
just
to
be
broken.
So
the
things
that
we
have
brought
to
your
attention.
They
need
to
be
addressed,
but
number
one.
G
We
are
human
beings,
we
do
pay
taxes,
we
need
to
be
treated
fairly.
Your
staff
is
on
staff,
they
get
paid
by
us,
a
taxpayer,
they
can
sit,
they
can
wait,
but
I
probably
have
a
ticket
on
my
car
now,
but
it's
important
I
will
pay
the
ticket
because
I
need
to
stand
here
and
let
my
voice
be
heard
for
the
people
that
want
to
be
heard.
That
cannot
come
down
here
to
be
heard
because
they
cannot
wait.
G
B
H
Hi
I'm
Johnny
Johnson
I'll,
come
down
here
again.
First
of
all
to
ask
you
guys
to
stop
the
circus.
That's
going
on.
Do
we
have?
First
of
all,
we
have
no
one
I
sit
down
here.
Every
weekend
held
things
routed
off
at
the
mouth
as
human
beings.
We
have
the
ability
to
speak
so
therefore,
we're
able
to
say
and
make
things
out.
What
is
it
again?
You
can
bring
these
slideshows
and
stuff
and
make
our
community
look
like
certain
wait,
but
the
facts
are
what
they
are.
The
facts
are
what
they
are.
H
No
one
is
fighting
nothing.
No
one
is
saying
down
here
and
I
was
just
like
to
speak
on
one
thing
and
calling
out
the
tennapel
Housing
Authority
about
Central
Park,
eight
generations.
Over
there
I'm
a
lifelong
resident,
not
relocated.
People
was
kicked
out
of
the
public
housing,
it
wasn't.
Oh,
they
moved
in
a
better
spot.
They
they
they
good
where
they
added.
They
don't
want
to
come
back
because
they
have
more
opportunity.
That's
not
the
case.
Well,
you
have
the
house.
H
Temporal
housing
did
not
relocate
people,
they
ran
a
one
strike
deal
and
kicked
people
out
and
again
rebuilding
when
you're
gonna
rebuild
and
put
some
of
the
solid
foundations
that
was
Derek
bike.
Any
facility
I
go
over
here
and
central
part
where
I
was
born
and
raised.
My
brother
was
born
on
government,
Street
and
salad,
the
housing
sort
of
way
all
car
loans
that
we
had
the
best
of
again.
H
What
are
you
going
to
do
to
read?
Relocate
and
small
black
businesses
biking
this,
instead
of
trying
to
look
for
one
18,000
square
foot
like
one
of
you
guys
suggested
breaking
it
down
to
small
individual
Union
so
that
that
you
can
get
more
I,
don't
want
to
use
minority
because
everybody
grab
that
labor
but
more
blacks
in
to
be
business
owners.
So
again,
I'm
down
here
on
a
concern
of
a
citizen
that
pays
types
that
vote
and
that's
going
to
advocate
the
whole
people
accountable
that
we
are
being
used
and
stuffed
on
as
people.
H
We
are
not
being
given
the
tools
properly
to
build
anything
we're
given
telling
us
to
go
to
apple
trees,
where
we
should
be
at
an
orang
tree.
We
can
get
nothing
done
out
of
out
per
tree
as
we
supposed
to
be
out
of
orange
tree.
Y'all
are
sending
up
fake
smokescreen
telling
us
this
dislike
that.
Do
you
help
people
that
don't
fully
represent
the
people
coming
down
here,
giving
y'all
false
information?
H
And
none
of
you
guys
up
there
decides
to
fight
check,
nothing
need
people
say,
because
they
help
beautiful
pictures
and
coloration
and
ability
to
speak
and
make
it
sound.
Beautiful
I'm
telling
you
as
a
resident
and
as
a
person
I
hear
a
lot
of
old
stuff
is
a
blatant
lie,
strictly
a
lie
and
you
guys
can
go
and
ice
the
citizen
and
not
be
paid
upon
it
and
people
just
looking
out
for
themselves
and
the
interest
of
others
and
the
lobbyists
and
their
contractors.
I
Good
morning
my
name
is
Cynthia:
few
I
reside
at
4506
North
29th
Street,
Tampa,
Florida
33
16
I
took
a
quote
that
President
Barack
Obama
said
we
have
to
work
together
to
make
our
voices
heard.
So
when
we,
the
people
voted
for
Natasha
goodly
to
be
the
chairperson
of
the
East
Tampa
revitalization,
then
we
should
respect
that.
We
should
treat
her
with
respect
and
me
myself.
I'm
71
years
old,
but
I
have
been
working
in
College
Hill,
bellman
Heights
and
my
coworkers
are
Rosa
Lee
Jones,
who
is
the
president
of
North
View
heels
Fran
Tate?
I
Who
is
the
president
of
the
Jackson
height
Association
and
we're
up
in
age?
We
need
young
people
to
stand
up
and
do
things
in
our
neighborhoods
for
us
and
if
we
beat
them
down
before
they
can
accomplish
what
they're
trying
to
do,
then
we
won't
have
any
generation
to
follow
because
they'll
see
how
we
treated
her
and
will
not
step
up
and
try
to
help
us
in
our
communities
to
do
the
things
that
need
to
be
done.
I
So
what
I'm
asking
is,
if
you're
dissatisfied
with
Natasha,
then
the
next
meeting
when
it's
time
to
vote
for
a
chairperson,
then
you
put
your
name
in
the
Hat
and
and
get
voted
in,
or
you
put
your
hat
name
in
the
Hat
to
become
a
bones
member.
So
if
we
all
just
treat
each
other
like,
we
want
to
be
treated
and
wrap
our
hands
and
give
her
love.
And
if
she
does
not
do
something
that
you
want
done.
D
J
Did
lead
to
7:05
East
24th
Avenue
I
I've
been
cheering
out
for
a
little
over
13
months
and
as
chair
of
the
East
Tampa
community,
revitalization
partnership
we've
worked
to
accomplish
several
things.
We
have
a
down
payment
assistance
program
that
was
targeted
from
the
community
to
assist
renters
with
trying
to
convert
to
homeowners.
Our
program
is
a
little
bit
different
because
we
do
allow
for
two
or
three
K
mortgages.
We've
put
together
rehab
assistance
program
to
help
residents
have
their
homes.
We
have
over
100
homes
set
for
demolition
that
should
have
been
demolished.
Decades
ago.
J
We
have
cited
over
37
businesses
with
code
enforcement
violations,
but
probably
should
have
had
cited
had
been
cited
years
and
years
ago
we've
had
tons
of
illegal
dumping
removed
from
our
area.
We've
had
tree
limbs
lifted
and
cleared
to
allow
lighting
better
lighting
in
the
community.
We
were
purchasing
properties
to
remove
the
blight
and
add
development
to
our
community.
As
you
all
know,
we
have
the
two
RFPs
out
and
we
have
our
12th
annual
Christmas
tree
lighting
that
we
do.
J
We
have
been
doing
for
the
past
12
years
and
it
is
a
celebration
that
is
this
year
will
be
a
young
metal
magnet
because
of
the
weather,
but
it
is
something
that
has
happened
and
been
on
the
books
for
over
a
decade.
So,
as
you
all
know,
it
has
been
tough
being
chair
for
13
months,
I've,
taken
bullets
for
the
entire
CAC
and
for
the
neighborhood
associations,
and
unfortunately,
many
of
the
neighborhood
associations
have
stopped
attending
our
meetings
because
they
don't
want
to
deal
with
the
the
they
don't
wanna
get
picked
on.
J
They
don't
want
to
deal
with
a
bullying
and
they
don't
want
to
deal
with
the
infighting
and
so
I've
made
it
my
business
to
go
to
their
meetings
to
be
able
to
see
what
it
is
that
they
actually
want
the
bullies.
Unfortunately,
don't
care
about
making
East
Tampa
a
better
place.
They
don't
care
about
removing
the
blight
and,
for
the
most
part,
many
of
them.
It's
just
personal
gain.
J
So,
in
order
to
bring
development,
which
is
what
everyone's
been
asking
for,
we've
had
to
work:
to
remove
the
blade
we've
had
to
work
to
remove
the
illegal
dumping,
because
no
developer
would
do
anything.
So
that's
been
our
goal.
I've
been
scrutinized
and
investigated
by
everyone
that
anyone
can
think
of
I've
had
my
name
pop
up
in
so
many
meetings
with
city
officials.
That
is
sickening.
J
They
claim
that
I've
done
in
moral
and
ethical
things,
that
my
service
is
a
conflict
of
interest,
but
every
department
who
has
looked
into
it
has
all
concluded
the
same
thing
every
last.
One
of
these
claims
are
unfounded.
They
want
to
bully
me
out
of
office,
but
it's
very
interesting
because
we
just
held
elections
in
October
and
anyone
who
wanted
to
be
a
part
of
the
CAC
could
step
up
and
actually
put
their
name.
J
H
Good
afternoon
councilman,
my
name
is
Quinton
F
robinson
resident
at
1903,
marital
Avenue,
Tampa
Florida,
three,
three,
six
twelve,
which
is
in
our
district
seventh
represented
by
mr.
Lewis
Viera.
The
reason
I'm
here
today
is
to
call
for
each
and
every
one
of
you,
gentlemen,
to
really
search
your
souls
about
ending
the
downtown
temp
with
CRA,
as
well
as
the
channel
district
CRA.
H
These
are
the
districts
that
are
most
important
are
generating
the
majority
of
the
dollars
for
CRA
s,
but
yet
they
do
not
qualify
to
be
a
CRA
three
proponents
that
suggest
for
it
area
to
be
a
CRA
in
our
slum
light
and
affordable
housing.
Downtown
Tampa
does
not
afford
any
of
those
things
to
have
taken
place
right
now.
Neither
does
the
channel
district
or
Water
Street,
so
what's
taking
place
is
that
these
CRA
s
are
being
utilized
by
developers
for
them
to
grow
their
profits
and
build
sky
rises
to
lift
their
names.
H
It's
unfortunate
that
the
entire
city
of
Tampa,
the
the
coffers
that
we
need
to
generate
revenue
for
the
city,
are
going
to
back
to
these
particular
areas
that
no
longer
even
qualify
for
CRA.
There's.
No
slum
in
downtown
Tampa
there's
no
blight
in
downtown
Tampa,
there's
no
affordable
housing
in
downtown
Tampa.
Three
things
that
CRA
s
are
supposed
to
fix.
These
things
have
been
fixed
in
downtown
Tampa
they've
been
fixed
on
the
channel
district.
Why
do
they
still
continue
to
exist
today?.
H
Lot
of
time
isn't
up
yet
I
was
waiting
for
a
response.
Let
it
again
the
problem
that
we're
facing
now
is
that
the
city
has
to
generate
revenue
if
it's
not
generating
revenue
from
tax
dollars
or
service
fees.
Those
are
being
put
back
on
the
people.
Why
not
tax
the
individuals
who
are
developing
in
downtown
temple
coming
into
downtown
temple?
You
can
see
cranes
from
Nebraska
Avenue,
but
yet
east
template
is
struggling
in
their
CRA
drew
Parker's,
struggling
Ness
CRA.
E
B
K
E
To
respond
hurt
quickly,
I
think
your
your
points
are
very
well
taken
with
this
councilman
of
two
things:
I
wanted
to
say
number
one:
we
we
appreciate
you
putting
your
name
out
there
and
running
for
office
last
go-around
I
know
mr.
Vieira
would
even
agree
because
you
guys
had
a
good,
clean
race
and
you
brought
up
good
points.
E
The
downtown
district
as
well
in
downtown
still
not
perfect,
but
but
definitely
has
improved,
so
I
think
the
creation
of
these
CR
A's
was
appropriate
at
the
time
30-something
years
ago
with
downtown
ten
years
ago,
with
the
ten
15
years
ago,
with
with
channel
sod
and
yes
they've,
been
success
stories,
you
know
they
are
both
doing
very
well.
Then
we
get
to
the
point
in
mr.
Carl.
Carlson
has
pointed
out
that,
and
you
have
to
that
at
some
point.
E
H
Thank
You
mr.
Deane
further
you
brought
out
something
regarding
the
Jackson
house,
the
Jackson
house,
it's
in
the
downtown
Tampa
CRA
I,
would
consider
the
Jackson
house
to
be
slum
and
blight
so
if
you're
relocating
it
from
one
area
to
another
CRA.
My
question
is:
is
that
why
hasn't
the
the
the
community
of
people
involved
with
the
Downtown
CRA,
even
taking
a
look
at
the
Jackson
house
to
repair
it?
If
it's
considered
slum
and
blighted?
H
That's
one
point
and
why
would
have
to
do
would
have
to
relocate
some
corkle
landmark
to
another
CRA
for
a
get
the
attention
that
it
deserves
when
in
downtown
Tennessee
re
already
generates
the
majority
of
the
money
of
any
other
CRA
in
debts
that
has
been
implemented
by
the
city
of
temple
and
of
course,
you
did
make
a
great
point:
I'm,
not
stating
that
what
took
place
30
years
ago,
that
there
wasn't
slum
blight
or
affordable
housing
issues
in
downtown
sample.
What
I'm
saying
it
today?
L
First
of
all,
we
could
have
got
rid
of
downtown
that's
homicide
two
years
ago
when
it
was
up
for
renewal,
but
they
held
up
West
anthem
for
those
two
to
get
renewed.
Cuz
I
already
had
to
run
a
time.
Now
they
got
another
40
years.
Okay,
that's
what
happened
they
held
at
West
temple
to
get
those
two
on
the
books
renewed,
not
a
person
renewed.
So
you
know
I'm
not
gonna,
go
there,
I,
don't
stay
there!
I
ain't
gonna
talk
about
these
temple
does
I
knew
it.
That's
not!
Okay!
L
I
know
it's
that's
back
I'm
here
to
talk
about
which
I
didn't
say
earlier:
Opportunity
Zones
I'm
here
requesting
I've
already
at
Miss,
I'm
gonna,
ask
you
man,
you
mean
for
us
to
get
the
government
got
together
yet,
but
the
city
of
temple
once
again
to
application
a
trial
for
the
historical
sign
would
be
on
the
interstate.
That
is
plenty
room
and
put
a
sign.
The
city
attempt
is
not
fully
application
out
which
mr.
L
yacht
secretary
said
when
David
went
said
in
an
application
ain't
something
about
vacations.
Please
submit
application
manual,
I'll!
Do
it
for
you
now
next
thing
we
want
are
portunity
zones
and
I
set
the
mayor.
Email
might
have
to
go
requesting
that
all
of
the
CRA
census
tracts
and
the
West
handle,
because
set
of
opportunities.
Honors
welcome
on,
came
and
made
a
couple
of
them
that
helped
West
River.
But
when
you
go
past
room
he
didn't
include
that
he
didn't
include
it
once
and
in
the
state.
The
opportunity
zones
are
needed
to
give
a
overlaid.
L
L
It
takes
the
city
of
Tampa
man's
Department
that
make
the
request
to
the
governor,
and
if
you
need
some
Republicans
support,
it
I
can
find
some,
but
at
least
make
the
application
Buckhorn
did
and
he
was
a
Democrat
and
even
got
the
glutes
for
the
stadium
in
Ybor
City
such
opportunities
zones,
those
census
tracks.
So
if
you're
gonna
do
it
for
that,
and
you
didn't
get
the
stadium
we're
asking
in
West
Campus
CRA
to
have
the
mass
office
to
ask
the
government
of
feds
cuz,
it's
already
slumming
black
it.
So
you
don't
need
that
point.
L
That's
the
reason.
That's
already
should
be
like
opportunities
on
so
we're
asking
that
the
remaining
sisters
tracks
west
campus,
that
are
not
cra-z,
be
deaf,
not
Opportunity,
Zones
be
designated
opportunities.
Islands
and
it
starts
with
the
mayor's
office-
must
have
been
it.
So
if
you
could
just
make
the
application
and
get
denied,
then
one
or
two
happen
cuz,
it's
not
something!
That's
gonna
cost
you
a
lot
of
money
to
do,
but
it
would
greatly
enhance
down
the
road.
L
L
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
walter
smith
ii,
I'm
the
vice
chair
of
the
West
Campus
er,
a
Community
Advisory
Committee,
along
with
my
chair,
Joe
Robinson,
but
today
I
want
to
discuss
this
issue
very
quickly
about
what
the
purpose
of
the
executive
director
should
be,
who
the
executive
director
should
be
reporting
to
I
stand
here
today
to
advocate
in
favor
of
the
executive
director
reporting
to
you
the
board.
It's
necessary
your
job
as
a
city
councillors
to
legislate.
L
I
do
stand
in
support
of
that,
and
we
do
need
to
make
sure
that
you
are
having
good
checks
and
balances
with
regard
to
what's
happening
in
our
communities.
The
job
of
the
CRA
is
to
make
sure
that
you
are
empowering
people.
The
job
of
the
CRA
is
to
make
certain
that
people
are
having
a
better
quality
of
life.
As
long
as
you
have
the
right
checks
and
balances
in
place.
As
long
as
the
executive
director
is
reporting
to
you.
L
As
long
as
we
have
the
relationships
that
we
continue
to
have
between
our
CRA
community
advisory
councils
and
you,
then
we
will
continue
to
have
those
checks
and
balances,
because
you
and
the
executive
director
are
supposed
to
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
the
people.
That's
the
job,
that's
your
charge!
That's
what
we
expect
and
so
I
do
stand
in
favor
of
the
executive
director
reporting
to
you
and
making
certain
that
there's
the
appropriate
checks
and
balances
in
place.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
You
counsel,
victor
de
viola,
49
25-minute
minutes,
parkway,
suite
195
I'm
here
representing
my
Isaac,
and
you
know
a
lot
of
people
come
here
to
and
moan
and
complain
about.
Something
went
wrong
which
I
did
two
months
ago,
and
you
listened
it
took
him
a
couple
months
and
I'm
here
to
thank
you
and
and
and
offer
my
appreciation
for
the
fact
that
you
said
you
know
what
the
Massey
part
project
it's
been
going
on
for
a
couple
years.
M
There's
a
new
thing
that
came
about
you
guys
sit
together
and
work,
something
out
so
I'm
here
to
thank
you
number
one
thank
mr.
Bennett
he's
been
outstanding
and
mr.
Rogers,
not
here
mr.
Kyle,
also
as
well
from
the
parks
department.
We
have
sat
down
and
met
with
them.
Everyone's
been
really.
It's
been
a
180-degree
turn
from
what
we
were
facing
when
we
first
came
to
you
and
asked
for
help.
So
we
have
been
meeting
with
the
neighborhood
I
want
to
correct
a
few
things.
M
I,
don't
want
to
read
litigate
why
maka
wasn't
noticed
over
the
last
couple
years.
That's
I
want
to
that's
water
over
the
dam.
As
far
as
we're
concerned
I'm
trying
to
take
your
direction,
which
we
asked
for,
which
is
to
look
forward,
what
can
we
do
to
fix
this
I
think
having
a
restaurant
in
the
park
that
that
that
amenities
already
left
the
station?
M
We
again
I've
said
it
before
you
have
big
race,
fish
camp,
you
at
four
green
fields,
you've
got
balance
point
and
many
many
other
examples
of
parks
and
restaurants
coexisting,
so
I'm
disappointed,
Michael
pedals.
That
called
me
a
couple
days
ago
and
said
we
met
over
the
weekend.
We
agreed
to
not
fight
you
guys
anymore.
We
want
to
work
together
and
today
I'm
kind
of
disappointed
that
they
took
the
stance
he
did.
M
But
last
week
the
downtown
community
by
City
Committee
met
the
people
who
you
appointed
to
represent
the
downtown
CRA
and
they
voted
nine
to
one.
Let's
give
me
eight
to
one
I
believe
to
reject
the
plan.
That
was
the
final
plan
up
to
this
point
and
to
move
forward
to
look
about
moving
the
dog
park
away
from
the
restaurant,
which
is
all
we're
asking
we're
not
leaving
every
amenity.
M
That's
in
the
park
now
the
dog
park,
the
seating
area,
the
grassy
area,
all
those
amenities,
the
the
artist
area,
all
those
amenities
that
are
part
of
the
park
design
today
will
be
in
the
park
design.
When
we're
finished.
All
we
asked
and
I
it
was
I
was
quoted
thanks
to
mr.
Frey.
Go
that
dog
poop
next
to
a
restaurant
does
not
work,
and
that
was
a
headline
and
a
nice
I
stand
today
saying
the
same
thing
to
you.
M
Dog,
food
and
extra
restaurant
does
not
work,
and
even
though
these
people
are
very
angry,
have
said,
disappointed,
I,
sympathize
with
them
and
and
by
the
way,
thank
you
and
rhizoma
for
for
listening
to
our
concerns
as
well.
That's
the
same
process.
We
want
to
move
forward
to
and
work
out,
so
we
can
have
a
nice
amenity
and
have
a
cool
amenity
for
everybody,
for
the
public
to
enjoy
at
Massey
Park
downtown
thanks.
N
My
name
is
Monica
I,
think
I'm
here
before
you
again,
and
the
first
thing
I
want
to
do
the
same
thing
like
mr.
DeMaio.
Thank
you
all
because
of
you.
We've
had
an
opportunity
to
meet
with
the
city
people
with
the
park
people
and
with
everybody
else.
We
had
a
difficult
time
time
before
him
to
get
to
meet
with
them,
but
because
of
you,
all
you
opened
up
that
opportunity
for
us
and
it
has
happened,
and
I
may
not
have
told
you
beforehand.
N
I
am
a
member
of
the
Florida
Bar
and
everybody
is
supposed
to
speak
the
truth
hill,
but
more
so
as
an
attorney.
There
are
consequences
if
you
don't
and
I
am
telling
you
that
I
had
not
had
notice
of
all
that
was
going
on
in
the
last
three
years,
and
you
had
a
letter
for
my
attorney
Richard
McIntyre
with
ask
mr.
was
not
for
notice.
We
are
not
getting
into
the
data.
What
happened
it's
passe,
but
I
have
not
had
noticed.
So
it
is
not
my
fault
and
just
due
process
requires.
N
N
A
B
A
B
B
B
B
A
P
Mr.
chair
board
members,
my
name's
Neil
Strehlow
I'm,
a
Senior
Planner
with
VH
beat.
My
offices
are
located
at
501
East
Kennedy
Boulevard
suite
1010
Tampa
Florida.
Do
you
have
a
presentation
today?
It's
a
short
presentation
provides
a
few
takeaways
on
the
vision,
2020
master
plan.
The
agenda
item
is
seeking
your
approval
of
the
final
report.
P
P
Our
team
includes
land,
wise
advisors
who
completed
the
retail
market
assessment
and
open
workshop
for
architecture
who
assisted
us
with
the
urban
form
and
design
elements.
The
report
contains
multiple
planning
assessments
that
were
completed
by
the
team
and
documented
in
the
final
report
that
was
made
available
to
you.
P
We
can
all
recognize
that
Ybor
City
is
a
historic,
Tampa
neighborhood
and
that
the
community
is
connected
to
and
through
the
downtown
and
the
and
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
That
is
continue
to
change
with
redevelopment
that's
occurring
in
and
around
the
district.
The
important
commercial
corridor-
seventh
Avenue,
the
entire
length
of
7th
Avenue
and
the
recently
improved
21st
and
22nd
streets
along
with
emerging
and
transitioning
areas
to
the
south
along
the
Adamo
Drive
corridor,
are
continuing
to
evolve.
P
Additionally,
our
community
engagement
included
a
May
15th
community
workshop
that
was
well
attended
with
more
than
a
hundred
persons
in
attendance
and
several
of
the
board
members
as
well.
We
also
have
a
dedicated
project
website
and
an
online
community
survey
that
returned
more
than
250
responses
to
a
district-wide
survey
instrument.
All
of
this
was
used
to
make
recommendations
brought
forward
into
the
strategic
action
plan,
update
the
strategies
on
implementation
for
the
Vision
Plan.
A
couple
of
of
the
I'm
going
to
highlight
a
couple
of
the
planning
assessments
for
your
consideration.
P
The
team
completed
a
retail
market
assessment
for
seventh
and
eighth
Avenue.
First,
four
conditions:
the
results
show
a
14
percent
vacancy
rate
along
a
corridor,
those
two
corridors
and
a
20
percent
gross
square
footage
being
occupied
in
office
uses
a
takeaway
is
that
highly
successful
business,
retail
business
districts
are
aiming
at
being
less
than
10
percent
vacancy
and
the
desire
is
after
vacancy
is
taken
care
of,
is
to
try
and
have
retail
uses
on
the
first
floor
office
uses
or
other
uses
on
the
second
or
upper
floors
to
reinforce
that
street-level
activity.
E
L
P
Oh,
this
is
an
actual
demand
based
on
population.
It
is
a
projection
of
demand,
retail
demand
by
our
teammate
land,
wider
advisors.
What
the
32,000
represents
square
feet
represent
is
projects
that
are
already
being
considered
or
in
the
pipeline,
and
so
what
that
leaves
is
an
unmet
need
of
78,000
that
could
be
supportive,
retail
uses
that
could
be
located
in
in
this
district
or
in
close
proximity
to
the
district,
and
that
includes
all
types
of.
P
P
P
Part
of
the
discussion
I'm.
Sorry.
This
is
very
good
to
see,
but
it's
really
relative
to
the
building
heights
of
the
district,
45
and
60
feet
typical
across
the
entire
zoning
districts,
with
those
growing
from
45
at
seventh
up
to
sixty
and
a
little
bit
higher
outside
of
the
district
along
Adamo
Drive,
where
higher
intensity
is
envisioned
some
day
in
the
future.
P
Part
of
this
discussion
really
revolved
around
the
contributing
structure
parcels
within
the
district
and
non-contributing
structured
parcels
and
the
community,
while
certainly
loves
the
historic
district
and
doesn't
want
to
do
see
anything
that
would
jeopardize.
The
designation
status
certainly
feels
that
there
is
redevelopment
of
parcels
that
don't
have
contributing
structures
should
have
some
recognized
differentiation
in
the
urban
design
guides
and,
and
that
would
be
that
was
a
recommendation
coming
forward,
as
those
were
updated.
E
P
Them,
uniquely
for
those
parcels
that
have
historic
structures
on
those
parcels
and
those
that
are
not,
does
it
that
are
vacant
or
don't
have
contributing
structures.
It's
not
defined.
Now
they
are
treated
non-contributing
structured
parcels
are
treated
and
limited
to
their
height
than
bulk,
based
upon
adjacency
to
contributing
structures
and
there's
a
belief
that
there's
a
way
to
modify
those
standards
so
that
increased
development
and
up
to
the
standards
of
the
zoning
district
could
be
met
on
those
non-contributing
parcels.
My.
E
L
E
But
Frankie's
patio
in
all
seriousness,
is
kind
of
like
you
know,
and
that
was
you
know
15
20
years
ago,
but
but
it's
like
oh
we've
got
beautiful
7th
Avenue
with
historic
architecture,
historic
architecture
and
all
of
a
sudden.
We
got
Frankie's
patio
and
with
whoever
designed
that
and
then
whoever
allowed
it
Mario
or
what-have-you.
And
it's
kind
of
like
I
hope
that
this
concept,
you're
talking
about,
is
not
something
that
would
encourage
or
allow
that
type
of
bastardization
of
the
barrios.
No.
P
A
differentiation
is:
where
setbacks
it's
really
where
buildings
are
situated
in
the
on
the
parcel
architectural
II,
they
should
fit
the
context
in
which
they're
that
they
sit
within
within
this
district,
but
when
you
diminish
the
overall
height
and
and
standard
for
the
zoning
district,
because
it
happens
to
be
adjacent
to
a
historic
property.
That
was
the
concern.
P
P
How
to
accommodate
parking
on
properties
that
are
either
in
the
rear
of
the
building
or
contained
within
the
structure
underneath
of
the
building?
Because
that
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
continuing
infrastructure
discussions
that
will
move
on
to
in
in
a
moment
about
public
parking
accommodation
within
with
anymore
and
how
additional
cars
are
entered
into
into
the
district.
P
We
completed
several
infrastructure
assessments
as
part
of
this
reporting
and
I
was
going
to
focus
specifically
on
the
parking.
Both
public
and
private
spaces
are
accommodating
and
support.
The
seventh
seventh
Avenue
commercial
use,
60%
of
the
of
the
spaces
of
the
public
inventory,
currently
has
a
permit
restriction
attached
to
it.
Somebody
has
use
of
that
space
during
portions
of
the
day
or
evening
or
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
day.
That
number
is
going
to
continue.
That
rate
is
going
to
continue
to
increase.
P
I'm,
sorry,
that
popped
off
that
rate
is
going
to
continue
to
increase,
especially
on
the
west
end,
where
new
office
and
new
residential
is
being
proposed
and
being
delivered
in
the
in
the
commercial
corridor,
and
those
spaces
are
going
to
be
allocated
out
of
the
public
spaces.
This
slide
is
the
private
vendors
who
control
land,
surface
Lots
and
also
support
the
the
commercial
district.
P
A
lot
of
the
discussion
in
the
community
outreach
was
about
safe
and
effective
routes
to
these
surface
Lots,
both
in
the
public
and
the
private
locations
and
and
effective
means
by
which
employees
are
represented
in
some
rate
considerations
as
they
are
needing
to
be
there
for
extended
hours,
so
I
know,
staff
is
working.
The
vendors
have
been
end
to
the
why
CDC
Warda
director
meetings
and
they
continue
to
work
with
them
on
opportunities.
P
The
community
identified
a
strong
desire
for,
inter
connectivity
to
the
district
in
downtown
connection
to
transit
connection
to
the
Sulman
Greenway
Trail
and
the
future
new
co
green
spine.
So
that's
that's
all
modes
of
vehicle,
bicycle
and
pedestrian.
We
looked
at
ad
a
ramp
locations
and
missing
locations
in
order
to
identify
and
help
prioritize
where
some
future
work.
Some
future
budgeting
may
be
able
to
accommodate
to
complete
these
missing
links.
P
P
All
of
these
are
need
to
be
weighed
and
measured
against
the
historic
street
system.
Those
brick,
those
brick
streets
that
are
in
existence
there
are
has
been
other
items
before
you
or
discussed
about
rebooking
streets
in
the
community.
That
was
a
strong
comment
that
was
discussed
and
will
continue
to
be
discussed
at
the
Y
CDC.
P
F
Carl's
just
a
short
statement.
You
know
my
company
is
now
in
Ybor,
so
I'm
spending
a
lot
more
time
there
than
I
did
before
I.
Think
in
talking
to
a
lot
of
the
business
owners
and
and
and
investors
in
Ybor
I.
Think
the
e
boards
going
through,
like
the
fourth
or
fifth
generation
of
development,
it
started
as
a
community.
Then
it
then
it
it
dropped
off
and
then
it
turned
into
an
arts
community.
And
then
it
turned
into
a
bar
district.
F
And
what
I
see
now
happening
is
it's
turning
back
into
a
community
again
and
and
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
the
not
just
on
the
buildings
infrastructure,
but
on
the
on
the
community
building
and
the
connectivity
of
what's
happening
and
and
in
particular
talking
about
retail.
We
need
to
think
about
retail
in
in
terms
of
what
are
the
amenities
that
people
in
the
offices
need.
F
What
are
the
amenities
that
people
that
live
there
need
and
think
about
it
as
as
rebuilding
a
community,
and
it's
going
to
be
different
than
it
was
historically
with
some
of
the
the
same
bones
and
some
of
the
same
families
and
people,
but
it's
different
and
growing
it
as
something
really
really
unique.
Again.
Yeah.
P
E
Thank
you
so
I
don't
know
in
terms
of
time,
if
there's
any
urgent
time
crunch
that
we
need
to
do
it.
Frankly,
it's
a
lot
to
digest
about
hundred
pages
and
I
looked
at
an
abbreviated
version
yesterday,
but
now
I'm,
seeing
this
larger
this
larger
version,
I've
I'm,
not
I,
wouldn't
really
be
prepared
or
happy
about
voting
on
it
today
or
this
month.
Unless
somebody
can
tell
me
an
overwhelming
reason
why
we
would
need
to.
J
B
E
I
think
I'd
make
a
motion
to
just
defer
it
for
a
month,
because
neither
miss
or
Planning
Commission,
the
Zelman
have
indicated
that
there's
any
particular
rush.
I
think
you
guys
have
been
working
on
this
for
a
year
or
more
so
I.
Would
it's
a
hundred
pages
I,
don't
know
what's
hidden
in
there,
not
I
mean
hidden
I,
don't
know.
What's
in
there
that
I
haven't
seen
I'd
like
to
review
it
I'm
sure
everybody
else
would
too
in
a
little
more
detail.
I
have.
Q
B
E
O
E
O
E
O
A
A
K
E
A
O
E
A
E
E
You
know
on
the
cameras,
the
use
of
the
camera.
There
was
some
unanswered
questions
earlier
that
I
understand
why
they
were
unanswered,
because
because
there
is
no
answer
yet,
but
but
just
to
get
a
report
back
from
staff
in
in
person
on
the
use
of
the
cameras,
how
is
it
going?
Has
it
improved
things?
What
are
we?
You
know?
That's
sort
of.
A
K
Chairman
board,
this
is
item
15,
which
is
a
continuation
of
the
workshop
from
our
previous
workshop
session.
The
administration
has
four
things
to
serve
your
agreement
on.
If
I
could
I'll
enumerate
those
and
then,
if
you
have
anything
else,
you
want
to
discuss
after
those
four
things
or
in
any
order,
you
please
we
can
do
that.
K
Miss
Elmen
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
legal
update,
Michele
Van
Loon
wanted
to
come
in
and
talk
about
the
service
agreement
that
we
had
been
working
on
for
now,
a
couple
months,
I
believe
with
some
of
the
language
and
lastly,
Michelle
wants
to
Michelle
Van
Loon
wants
to
kind
of
capstone
this
conversation
with
a
motion
that
was
made
earlier
about
the
retention
pond
task
force
and
the
timing
of
that.
So
those
are
the
four
things.
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
want
to
address
beyond
these
four
items
that
I
just
shared.
K
All
right
so
I'll
kick
it
off
when
we
last
spoke.
I
think
this
is
my
third
meeting
with
you
from
a
CRA
point
of
view.
We
talked
about
the
city.
Administration
has
separated
the
proposed
executive
director
from
the
what
would
be
the
economic
development
administrator,
which
is
a
position
still
to
be
filled,
and
our
recommendation
after
looking
through
our
obviously
our
recruitment,
selection
and
installation
process,
is
that
we
would
prepare
a
or
solicitation
for
a
recruitment
for
the
executive
director
and
whether
it's
nationally
internationally.
K
We
have
two
already
contracted
groups
that
can
do
executive
level
outsourcing
of
that
already
in
our
HR
department.
We're
already
doing
that
for
several
positions
for
the
administration.
We
would
like
to
circulate
the
draft
of
that.
Much
like
we
would
circulate
an
RFP
we'd
like
to
circulate
the
language
of
that
for
your
consideration
and
agreement,
and
then
we
would
put
that
out,
obviously
for
recruiting
purposes.
We
would
also
like
to
include
you,
as
we
previously
discussed
in
this
election
process,
there's
probably
several
different
models
that
we
can
use
that
I've.
K
You
know
once
that
person
was
picked
through
this
selection
process,
then
we
would
bring
her
or
him
here
and
we
could
actually
install
them
through
a
regular
board
meeting.
If
that's
your
preference.
So
that's
the
recommendation
we
would
like
to
get
on
this
sooner
than
later,
and
just
like
you
know,
we
spoke
about
last
time.
I
think
the
the
biggest
thing
that
I'm
excited
about
is
that
we
have
a
dedicated
position
that
will
work
directly
for
the
board
and
the
things
that
the
board
needs
to
accomplish
through
the
management
program
and
the
service
level
agreement.
A
O
You
a
mr.
chair,
just
one
thing
you
mentioned
they're
cheap
on
the
interview
I
for
me
personally.
I
would
strongly
suggest
individual
interviews
not
collectively,
because
then
we'll
have
to
do
it
here
and
there
are
certain
things
that
happen
in
views
that
shouldn't
necessarily
be
on
camera.
I!
Guess
if
you
will
it's
just
it,
we've
all
been
there
right.
So
just
my
opinion.
For
whatever
that
counts,
you
know.
I
I
do
agree
that
you
know
the
the
splitting
of
the
positions
I
think
was
a
very
good
move.
O
That
I
think
addressed
a
lot
of
concerns
that
a
lot
of
members
of
council
have
and
a
lot
of
different
issues.
I
think
whenever
it
comes
to
working
with
the
administration
on
these
kinds
of
issues,
you
all
have
shown
the
ability,
the
propensity
to
work
with
City
Council,
to
reach
out
to
us
liberally
on
a
number
of
issues
and
and
I
for
one
strongly
appreciate
that
I
really
do
I
think
that
the
proposal
put
forward
incorporates
those
values.
O
It
incorporates
the
outreach
that
the
Castro
administration-
and
you,
sir,
have
continued
you
to
the
City
Council
I.
Do
not
believe
that
this
is
a
honeymoon
period
from
you
guys,
in
other
words,
I.
Don't
believe
that
in
one
year
you
all
are
gonna
start
acting
inappropriate
or
this
or
that
good
III
believe
that
you're
acting
from
a
set
of
values,
I
really
do
and
I
and
I.
Don't
just
say
that.
So
just
my
thoughts
in
regards
to
that,
but
I
did
want
to
speak
up
again
for
the
interview
that
I
would
strongly
suggest.
K
I,
concur
with
that
recommendation,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
I
offer
the
board
a
balanced
approach
and
for
the
record,
my
honeymoon
period
in
at
about
thirty
five
years
ago
in
government.
So
this
is
what
you
get
from
here
on
out:
I,
don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
change
in
that
respect
of
service
delivery
to
you
or
the
citizens,
and-
and
that's
the
one
thing
I've
been
excited
about
is
I.
K
Think
we're
all
I
mean
I,
know
board
member
/,
councilman,
Carlson
and
I
spoke
after
the
last
and
we're
focused
on
the
community
and
I.
Think
that's
really
where
we
need
to
go
with
this
so
I'm,
hoping
that
you
agree
with
our
process.
We
can
build
the
recruitment,
get
it
to
you
as
soon
as
possible
for
your
feedback
and
that
recruitment
would
be
bifurcated
between
our
internal
recruitment
and
our
recruiting
firms
input
because
they
probably
have
a
more
global
perspective
on
hiring
this
level
of
person.
For
this
position.
K
R
R
K
A
F
Thank
you
to
you
in
the
in
the
mayor
and
everyone
for
working
on
this
idea.
I
think
it
answers
a
lot
of
questions
in
the
community.
First
of
all,
we
need
for
the
amount
of
money
we're
spending.
We
need
somebody
to
look
at
it.
Full-Time
I
still
think
we
should
take
a
vote
on
who
this
person
reports
to.
Is
that
the
next
point,
or
is
that
included
in
this
point.
K
D
F
I
think
the
the
County
Commission
is
set
up,
so
there
are
seven
people
and
there's
one
County
Administrator
in
the
CRA
is
in
legally
a
different
body.
Although
we
outsource
to
the
city
we
talked
in
the
beginning
about
maybe
taking
that
whole
1.7
and
using
it
separately
and
hiring
a
whole
staff.
But
at
least
that
was
a
concept
that
was
thrown
out
now.
F
We're
at
the
executive
director,
part
and
I
think
it's
important
that
that
we
know
that
that
the
executive
director
knows
that
the
stops
with
the
CRA
I
mean
we're
responsible
for
it,
and
there
there
are
several
different
models.
Maybe
misses
ailments
going
to
give
us
some
legal
advice.
The
model
that
I
proposed
was
that
this
person
would
be
hired
just
like
Marty
or
a
legislative
aide.
F
With
the
the
Charter
amendments
we
made,
we
made
it
open-ended
so
that
we
could
hire
more
staff
and
the
CR
I
could
just
put
money
in
that
and
that
thing
if
it
ends
up
that
the
only
legal
way
to
do
it
is
to
have
the
either
way
the
person
would
be
under
the
same
arch,
our
rules
and
everything,
and
it
still
would
be
paid
through
the
city.
But
if
it
ends
up
that,
this
person
is
is
is
set
up
similar
to
the
to
the
other
CRA
staff.
F
K
I
I
think
the
part
that
I'm
confused
on
is
I,
don't
know
how
the
buck
doesn't
stop
with
you
under
this
model,
either
because
you're
you're
accepting
a
service
level
agreement
with
a
total
management
package
to
serve
the
citizens
through
this
board
and
any
separation
of
that
to
me,
I
lose
the
teamwork
effect
or
the
continuity,
effective
management
and
resources
that
support
that
team.
So
the
part
that
I've
I'm
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
say
without
beating
around
the
bush
is
what
problem
are
we
trying
to
solve?
K
If
we
actually
have
a
director
that
has
got
a
separation
between
the
managers
that
are
actually
out
there
charged
doing
the
work
with
all
the
resources
to
implement
the
work
I'm,
just
not
understanding
that
model
of
how
it
changes
the
authority
of
the
board
through
the
process,
since
we're
actually
serving
the
board
on
a
day
to
day
burst
a
day
to
day
basis
under
the
CRA
model.
So
that's
the
part
I'm
confused
on.
A
R
I
see
where
you're
going
but
I
also
see
mr.
Carlson's
going
it's
a
it's
a
matter
of
perception
sometimes,
and
you
and
I
know
working
in
different
areas
that
people
have
a
perception
of.
This
is
the
boss,
and
even
though
we
can
say
and
have
this
agreement,
if
that
person
is
under
the
auspice
of
still
the
mayor,
they're
gonna
give
that
that
big
pig
of
the
pie
and
say
I
work
for
the
mayor.
R
It
just
gives
you
skills
a
sense.
I
guess
for
this.
For
some
of
us,
if
I
have
a
designated
person
with
just
who
I
was
I,
thought
was,
would
be
our
person
and
that
person
would
be
liaison
with
the
administration's
person
and
still
have
that
good
gel
working
together.
Now
we
talk
about
benefits
and
so
forth.
Well,
the
managers,
our
age
get
benefits
already.
So,
if
that's
something
to
be
compensated
on
top
of
they're
fine,
but
our
aides
already
get
that.
So
any
answer
to
us,
but
you
know
and
I
have
to
say
cuz.
R
Sometimes
they
tell
well
sometimes
depends
on
what
it
is.
We
asked
it
to
the
administration.
It
depends
on
what
it
is
and
the
old
times
whenever
we
bothered
you
answer
to
the
council
members,
so
I
think
that's
where
the
unbalance
comes
in,
sometimes
so
I
think
for
most
of
on
the
board.
We
want
to
make
sure
that,
if
we're
responsible
for
enacting
this
CRA
that
we
have
a
person
that
knows
that
you're
answering
to
us,
but
yes,
you
you're
working
with
the
administration's
person,
so
that's
just
the
way.
I
look
at
and
see
it.
R
You
know
I
get
that
sometimes
from
directors
now
you
know
I
hear
on
the
streets
of
that.
Well,
they
just
say
he
counts
more
than
yesterday,
but-
and
in
fact
you
may
answer
to
the
mayor,
but
nothing
doesn't
move
money-wise
or
this
is
a
smoothness
council,
approves
it
so
I
get
kind
of
bother.
When
I
hear
that,
sometimes
you
see
decals,
we
don't.
We
don't
have
to
really
listen
an
area
but
and
I
just
don't
want
to
get
that
feel
with
this
position
here.
R
O
A
couple
of
issues,
something
the
chief
Bennett
said
in
effect,
which
is
we
could
be
looking
at
a
solution
in
search
of
a
problem.
I,
want
to
see
the
specific
issues
that
we're
trying
to
remedy
I.
Think
that
the
I
don't
want
to
call
it
a
compromise,
but
the
moving
halfway
forward
that
the
administration
did
takes
care
a
lot
of
the
concerns
when
councilman
Carlson
first
brought
up
this
idea.
I
was
very
open
to
it
and
then,
when
I
heard
y'all's
moving
forward
halfway.
I
think
that's
something
that's
very
reasonable.
O
K
The
mayor,
I,
don't
know
the
answer
that,
but
the
only
thing
I
do
know
is
some
cities
have
either
attempted
or
did
outsource
the
entire
process,
but
not
to
this
level.
Yeah
I
know
the
jurisdictions
were
smaller
and
maybe
it
was
an
efficiency
move.
Maybe
they
figured
the
contract
out,
I,
don't
know
the
political
attacks
or
the
operations
of
that.
But
I
know
there
are
a
few
cities
down
south
florida
that
may
have
outsource,
but
I
don't
know
of
a
bifurcated
model.
O
And
that
wouldn't
make
it
wrong
if
we
were
the
only
one
to
do
it,
that's
not
a
presumption
that
somehow
were
we
being
correct
if
we
were
to
go
down
that
route,
but
the
issue
is
I'd
like
to
see
is
if
anybody
else
does
try
to
experiment
with
that,
so
to
speak,
what
were
the
results,
so
we
can
take
a
look.
I
think
this
is
an
issue
that
requires
some
more
investigation
before
we
jump
into
it.
In
my
opinion,
now,
chief
Bennett
you'd
also
talk.
We
had
discussed
and
I
think
it
was
councilman.
O
Felder
had
talked
about
some
precautions
to
have
accountability
through
counsel,
for
example,
having
a
supermajority
vote
to
hire
the
individual
and
then
having
annual
reviews,
continued
vote
of
confidence.
I
know
that
would
put
a
hamper
in
for
this
individual,
whoever
he
or
she
may
be
to
take
the
job,
because
then
you're,
subject
to
a
seven-person
board,
I
understand
that,
but
I
think
that's
one
way
of
looking
at
it.
O
The
other
way
of
looking
at
it's
gonna
make
the
person
you
know,
work
even
harder
to
be
engaged
with
us
and
in
all
of
our
communities
and
constituents
etcetera.
So
that's
certainly
something
we
can
take
a
look
at,
but
I
think
there's
the
the
compromise
that
you
all
have
put
forward
to
me
addresses
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
I
originally
had
I.
Think
it
moves
a
lot.
I
think
it's
something
that
is
in
response
to
the
legitimate
concerns
that
councilman
Carlson
brought
up
and
I.
Think
it's.
O
You
know
something
to
be
considered,
but
in
terms
of
this
proposal,
there's
a
lot
of
evaluation
and
investigation
and
dialogue.
That
I
think
still
needs
to
happen.
It's
not
there
in
my
opinion
at
this
time,
but
we
need
to
look
at
it
further
before
we
jump
into
such
a
significant
departure
from
what
we're
doing
now
and.
K
If
I
could
respond
to
that
and
I,
you
know
I,
look
at
it
as
a
continuum.
If
we,
if
we
continue
to
analyze,
you
know
we're
gonna
be
spending
time
instead
of
recruiting,
selecting
and
installing
we're
gonna
spend
time
analyzing,
which
is
not
a
bad
thing.
If
that's
the
board's
wish,
the
other
side
of
the
continuum
is
that
you
know
as
we
go
through
this
I
always
worry
about
what
I
call
an
overcorrection
to
something,
because
you
there
is
plenty
of
safeguards
for
the
board
between
the
service
level
agreement.
K
You
know
the
city
has
shown
again
and
I
appreciate
the
feedback
on
that
and
even
I
call
it
the
right
thing
to
do
over
a
compromise.
There
should
be
an
executive
director
that
is
specifically
focused
on
serving
the
board.
It
sorts
through
the
citizens
serving
the
citizens
through
the
board,
with
the
CAC
s
having
those
energetics
focused
on
the
CRA
working
with
and
in
support
of
our
entire
economic
development
holistic
process
and
the
metrics
that
we're
looking
to
I
have
seen
nothing.
K
But
you
know
from
the
time
I've
been
up
here,
moving
the
bar
closer
and
closer
to
what
the
CRA
Board
has
asked.
For
so
I
mean
this
is
I
feel
like
we're
moving
in
a
good
faith
to
execute
in
the
direction
that
we've
been
asked
to
do
again.
If
there's
some
problem
that
I'm
missing
I'm
not
aware
of
it
at
this
point,
I
just
think
that
we're
gonna
create
a
model
that
you
know
and
I
understand
that
you
know.
K
There's
the
ability
to
hire
aides
but
you're
working
as
a
team,
and
now
we're
gonna
be
working
across
trying
to
work
as
a
team
and
I'm
just
afraid
that
those
dynamics
from
my
experience
of
supervising
and
managing
thousands,
not
hundreds,
but
thousands
that
you
need
those
inner
dynamics
and
bringing
that
full
level
of
service
to
the
board
on
a
regular
basis
through
that
director.
That's
dedicated
to
this
position
through
the
community
through
the
board.
So
that's
just
my
feedback.
F
In
terms
of
the
problem,
I
won't
go
back
and
talk
about
the
problems
over
the
last
few
years,
but
there
were
a
lot
of
problems
that
the
community
brought
up
and
Councilman
Vieira
talks
about
that.
It's
not
a
honeymoon
period
and
I
I
hope
so.
I
agree
with
that.
I
I,
like
you,
I
trust
you
I
trust.
The
mayor.
F
I
think
you
all
are
acting
in
good
faith,
I'm
terrified
of
something
happening
like
what
happened
in
the
last
few
years,
and
the
community
was
very
unhappy
in
lots
of
different
ways
and
if
we're,
if
it
ends
up
that
that
when
the
honeymoon
period
is
over
it,
it
turns
into
as
rubber-stamping
things
again.
Then
we're
gonna
get
all
the
complaints
from
the
community
and
we're
gonna
have
no
power
to
change
anything.
And
so
that's
where
my
concern
is
I.
I
trust
you
all
and
I
think
you're,
showing
in
good
faith
lots
of
lots
of
things.
F
Of
course
there
whispers
in
the
community
about
how
things
are
gonna
change
if
we
don't
make
this
decision
so,
whether
that's
true
or
not
it
no.
But
we
look
with
other
agencies
like
one
that
we
dealt
with
last
week,
that
that
showed
disdain
for
a
city
council
and
and
showed
that
they
didn't
care
about
any
influence
that
City,
Council
might
have
and
I
think
somehow.
F
We
have
to
show
people
that
there's
there's
not
only
one
branch
of
government
in
this
in
this
community
and
in
the
case
of
CRA
bylaw,
actually
we're
in
charge,
and
and
so,
if
we
don't
take
that,
then
we're
giving
it
away
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
solutions,
I
didn't
somehow
I
didn't
hear
the
one
that
you
just
mentioned
that
mr.
dink
feller
mentioned
about
about
reporting,
structure
and
supermajority
I
mean
the
way
I
would
talk
about.
The
interview
processes
is
in
the
way
I
mentioned
it
before.
F
F
You
know
hear
about
things
after
deals
are
done
or
decisions
are
made
and
we
might
be
included
in
the
decisions
or
we
first
in
the
decision-making,
because
we
are
the
legal
board
of
the
CRA
or
and
then
we'll
bring
everybody
else
in,
because
we
want
to
be
collaborative.
But
if
there's
a
solution
where,
where
we
can
set
up
a
review
process,
you
know
the
Aviation
Authority
board
the
port
board
other
boards.
They
all
give
reviews
and
and
feedback
to
the
to
their
executive
directors.
F
If
we
can
do
that
as
a
CRA
board,
I
would
be
fine
with
that,
because
that
is
a
review
process
and
we
have
the
chance,
with
30
days
notice,
to
cancel
that
outsource
agreement
whenever
we
want,
but
I
think
that
we
should
show
that
that
showed
this
person
that
they
ultimately,
even
though
they're
employee
of
the
city,
ultimately
they're
reporting
to
the
CRA
board.
Otherwise
you
know
another
option
that
we
have
understand
from
163
is
we
can
delegate
this
whole
authority
to
another
board?
F
We
can
set
up
a
separate
CRE
board
and
City
Council
doesn't
have
to
deal
with
this
at
all.
If
we
don't
want
the
authority
I'm
not
recommending
that,
but
I
think
we
need
just
need
to
make
it
clear
somehow
either
the
person
is
is
working
for
us
inside
the
city
staff
or
we
need
to
make
it
really
clear
that
the
ultimate
authority
on
the
CRA
is
is:
is
the
CRA
board.
E
Two
points
I
wanted
to
make
number
one
Lewis.
Mr.
chairman,
I'm
glad
you
reminded
me
about
my
brilliant
idea,
but
but
I
think
it
in
mr.
Carlson
acknowledged.
It
I
think
that
perhaps
that
can
solve
some
of
the
concerns
in
the
community
and
some
of
our
concerns,
because
if
we
do
an
annual
review
and
that
person
doesn't
get
at
least
5
votes,
that's
pretty
heavy
hammer
over
somebody
to
remind
them
the
other
364
days
of
the
year
that
at
the
end
of
the
day
they
work
they
work
with
that
administration.
E
E
K
E
Know
just
keep
going,
keep
going,
keep
going,
stop
yeah.
All
right.
I've
mentioned
this
to
chief
Bennett
a
couple
times
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks.
So
the
way
I
look
at
it
is
pursuant
to
the
18-point
agreement
or
whatever
it's
ultimately
going
to
be.
The
mayor
in
her
staff
answered
to
the
CRA
I
mean:
that's
that's
what
it
is
so
so
that's
why
I
put
up
these
two
scenarios.
We've
got
the
CRA
in
that
on
this
one
day
a
month.
The
mayor
answers
to
us.
E
You
know
how
she
sets
up
her
structure
and
that
sort
of
thing,
but
in
this
particular
unique,
very
unique
situation.
I
would
feel
much
more
comfortable,
knowing
that
that
CRA
director
was
on
the
same
level
in
the
hierarchy
and
the
pecking
order
of
the
of
the
administration
if
they
were
aside
by
side
with
the
economic
directly,
and
let
me
tell
you
two
reasons
why,
in
my
opinion,
for
one
thing
and
I
think
it
counts.
When
Goods
mentioned
this,
there's
a
lot
of
symbolism
out
there.
E
You
know
that
he's
having
some
problems
with
the
construction
staff
or
the
purchasing
stop
or
whatever
again
you
know
that
purchasing
staff
and
that
construction
staff
they
might
jump
to
it
a
lot
better.
Knowing
that
that
CRA
director
is
is
placed
up
there
at
the
higher
level.
So
that's
just
that's
my
two
cents
on
that
I
feel
more
comfortable,
strongly
recommending
to
chief
Bennett
in
the
mayor
that
they
look
at
that
decent
area
and
I'm
not
springing
this
on
John
because
he
not
talked
a
couple
times.
F
I
look
at
it
as
two
different
tracks,
so
there's
I
could
draw
on
yours,
but
the
one,
whether
it's
a
or
b
to
me.
That's
the
HR
track
so
for
regular
performance
appraisals
and
compensation.
Everything
that
person
reports
up
to
the
mayor,
but
then
there's
a
separate
line
where
we
were
that
the
whole
group
is
an
outsourced
service
provide
happens
to
be
provided
by
the
city
could
be
provided
by
b-but.
F
K
K
It's
all
going
to
come
down
to
obviously
that
collaborative
approach
that
we're
all
trying
to
reach
the
same
goals.
You
know
when
the
mayor
appoints
an
economic
administrator.
If
you
will
I
mean
they're
gonna
have
to
work
together
just
like
we're
talking
about
working
together
here
and
I.
Think
if
you
remember
my
comment
last
time,
the
reason
I
wanted
to
get
momentum
on
this
election
process
and
recruiting
process
I'm.
Sorry,
recruiting
and
selection
process
is
because
chemistry
is,
is
very
important
and
I.
K
Think
if
we,
if
we
socialize
that
chemistry
through
this
process
and
get
near
the
finalization
and
installation
when
the
mayor
is
ready
to
announce
an
economic
administrator
that
that
relationship
is
going
to
be
part,
part
and
parcel
of
that,
because
you
know
it's
like
any
other
team,
the
more
chemistry
have
the
more
we're
gonna
get
accomplished.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
delivering
the
services.
You
know
to
the
people
that
need
to
be
done
through
the
CRA
process
and
I.
K
Don't
I
have
no
concerns
about
where
we're
heading
with
adding
a
director,
as
we
talked
about
earlier
separating
from
the
CRA
I'm.
Sorry
for
the
economic
administrator,
my
larger
concerns
was
getting
more
synthesis
and
our
strategic
plans
and
the
things
that
actually
drive
us
to
the
out
the
end
game
through
the
people
that
we
put
in
this
position.
So
you
have
a
good
strategy.
You're
gonna,
get
good
outcomes
with
the
right
people,
and
that's
the
part
through
the
workshop.
K
That
I
was
hoping
to
do
is
to
get
a
reset
on
a
lot
of
our
strategic
momentum
and
make
sure
we
got
the
right
people
that
execute
I
have
no
doubt
that
we're
going
to
find
the
right
person
and
the
right
team
to
get
that
done.
So
you
know
once
again,
I'll
end
it
with
it.
There
is
no
lack
of
service
direction
towards
the
board
in
this,
and
that's
good.
K
That's
how
this
administration
is
going
to
support
that
position,
so
whether
it's
a
set
of
lines
for
HR
or
a
set
of
responsibilities
suit
through
your
service
agreement.
Our
only
commitment
is
to
get
this
done
and
we
understand
the
position
of
the
power
and
the
responsibility
of
the
CRA
board.
Thank.
T
You
I
just
think
that
loud
here,
just
and
I
look
at
these
comics
of
a
and
B
economic
person
that
is
appointed
by
the
mayor
does
that
position
have
to
be
approved
by
the
council.
Yes,
all
right
go
back
to
the
CRA,
that's
a
that's
approved
by
the
council.
Does
it
have
to
be
approved
by
the
mayor?
Yes,
so
you're
at
the
standstill,
I
mean
I,
don't
understand
it.
I,
don't
understand
what
the
argument
is.
I.
You
know
I'm
looking
at
this
and
I'm
saying
they
either
gonna
get
a
longer
they're.
T
Not
you
don't
know
who
you're
gonna
hire,
we
don't
know.
What's
gonna
hire
so
maybe
they're,
two
wonderful
people
that
can't
get
along.
That's
why
they
had
divorces
and
I'm.
Looking
at
this
I
said,
I've
always
trusted
other
elected
officials
until
they
crossed
the
line
and
I
haven't
found
one.
Yet
that
is
cross
the
line
right.
That's
almost.
B
R
But
the
administration
has
been
forthcoming
so
far
they
have
I
have
to
give
them
credit,
and
one
thing:
I
cannot
say
about
the
mayor,
no
matter
where
we
are
at
and
I
heard.
It's
never
happened
in
the
past.
You
always
recognizes
council,
if
we're
sitting
somewhere
in
the
back.
She
hasn't
come
to
the
front
which
I
don't
know
why
from
the
get-go,
we
should
be
in
the
front
already
when
she
gets
there
versus
us
trying
to
find
seats
of
finding
a
parking
space
way
down
the
road.
R
You
know
so
I
can
say
that
she
does
acknowledge
the
council
and
hopefully
the
rest
of
that
will
start
trickling
to
the
other
directors
in
the
city.
That
council
is
important
to
and
and
I
guess.
I
just
got
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
to
make
a
decision,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
that
gel
to
understand
that
hey
this
person
is,
it's
gonna,
be
the
driving
force.
This
person
is
driving
this
city,
but
but
they're
meeting
at
some
point
and
they're
gonna
build
it
to
work
together.
I.
F
Don't
know
if
you're
asking
for
a
vote
on
this
specific
thing,
but
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
staff
come
back
to
us
at
the
next
meeting
with
recommendations
on
how
we
can
set
up
a
reporting
and
approval
structure
similar
to
what
councilman,
Vieira
and
dink-dink
Felder
spoke
about.
We're
we're
it's
clear
to
the
person
being
hired
that
at
least
on
an
annual
basis,
they're
being
reviewed
by
the
CRA
board.
T
To
that
and
I
appreciate
very
much
what
you
just
said,
mr.
Karlson,
but
an
a
and
B,
no
matter
who
you
hire
they're
still,
human
beings,
no
matter
who
it
is,
they
still
want
to
have
differences
of
opinion
to
some
degree,
so,
whether
it's
a
or
B,
it
makes
a
difference
to
the
mayor's
there
or
not
because
they
don't
get
along.
T
L
T
Makes
no
difference
who
you
hire
makes
no
difference
who
we
approve
if
those
two
individual.
This
is
human
aspect.
If
I
don't
get
along
with
my
wife,
I'm
gonna
get
a
divorce
or
I've
been
kicked
out
of
the
house,
one
other
two.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
put
into
it
if
these
two
human
beings,
wherever
they
are
agree
on
something?
That's
fine
and
there's
gonna,
be
disagreement.
There's
a
disagreement
here,
there's
many
four
or
three
votes.
We
don't
not
spot
stop
speaking
to
each
other,
maybe
tomorrow
I
will.
T
But
what
I'm
trying
to
tell
you
is
that?
How
can
I
can't
have
a
perfect
show?
There
is
nothing
in
the
world
is
perfect,
although
the
one
person
he's
not
here
anymore.
So
what
I'm
trying
to
say
is.
It
makes
no
difference
who
you
hire.
They
got
to
have
communication
and
they
got
to
have
an
understanding
of
what
the
goal
is.
How
you
get
to
the
goal
is
up
to
these
two
persons
and
then,
with
the
help
of
the
man,
the
council,
that's
what
it's
all
about
anything
about
power.
There
is
no
power
in
government.
K
E
To
help
mr.
Bennett
and
his
HR
team
speed
things
along
and
I'm
gonna
support
the
motion,
but
to
help
them
speed
along
instead
of
coming
back,
and
then
we
have
to
talk
about
it
for
another
month.
Why
don't?
We
just
incorporate
it
into
direction,
to
say:
okay,
start
that
recruiting
process,
but
include
that
five
vote
concept
and
both
at
the
front
end
and
at
the
annual
and
as
part
of
it,
and
then
that
way
mr.
Bennett
can
get
on
with
it.
K
Can
I
provide
a
little
feedback
before
the
motion?
Thank
you,
so
I
understand
and
I
I
think
we
could
run
this
concurrently
for
the
sake
of
time,
which
is
one
of
my
three
pieces
of
the
management
triangle,
time
quality
resources
we
want
to
keep
time
moving
so
for
the
sake
of
getting
getting
things
moving
for
the
community,
I
guess
I
just
want
to
make
a
point
of
clarification.
You
know
if
there
was
if
there
was
a
review
much
like
I
saw
in
the
county
government
model
where
you,
you
obviously
had
a
chairperson.
K
You
had
a
county
minister
to
report
to
seven
bosses
and
they
would
get
reviews
from
each
I
respect
that
in
spirit.
But
what
I
wanted
to
say
is
if
any,
if
five
of
you
called
me
or
the
mayor
six
months
into
this
and
said
this,
isn't
what
what
I'm
not
sure
what
you
think
we
would
do
other
than
take
action
to
continue
to
serve
the
board
in
the
community.
The
way
we
needed
to
do
it
so
I.
Look
at
it
as
this,
where
we
want
to
bring
you
the
recruiting
package,
which
is
really
the
RFP.
K
We
want
to
include
you
in
this
election
process,
so
you
get
the
right
chemistry
and
you
feel
good
about
the
hire.
And
then
we
want
to
include
you
in
the
feedback
loop,
because
this
person
is
going
to
serve
the
board
day
in
and
day
out
to
get
the
CRA
process
done,
with
the
support
of
the
management
team
and
the
support
staff
and
the
rest
of
all
the
logistics
and
support
from
city
government.
K
So
the
model
is
in
place
to
basically
do
that
review
without
the
formality.
If
you
want
the
informality
scoped
out
between
now
and
next
month,
happy
to
do
that,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
by
default
it
already
exists.
You
know,
I
I,
look
at
you
as
seven
board
executives
that
it's
looking
to
hire
an
individual
to
run
the
CRA
through
the
power
of
this
board
for
the
service
of
the
community
and
at
any
time
the
board
is
dissatisfied
with
that.
K
What
out
the
other
piece
I
want
to
talk
about
is
is
to
put
our
put
our
feet
in
the
shoes
of
a
person
who's
applying
for
this
position
and
asking
how
many
folks
may
or
may
not
apply
if
they
feel
like.
There's
this
deep
concern
about
how
things
go.
You
know
as
far
as
the
the
oversight
and
administration,
but
but
if
that's
the
request,
then
we
could
package
the
recruiting
package
and
the
oversight
at
the
same
time
and
bring
it
back
to
you
in
a
month.
O
O
We
can't
build
we're
caught
in
a
trap.
I
can't
walk
out
because
I
love
you
too
much
baby.
You
know
we
I,
don't
I,
don't
want
to
go
into
this
with
suspicious
minds.
There's.
What's
that
old,
saying
if
you're
a
hammer
everything's
a
nail
right,
I,
don't
want
it!
I,
don't
want
this
council
to
be
the
hammer.
That's
gonna
see
this
administration
as
the
nail
so
to
speak,
or
vice
versa.
O
By
the
way
when
it
comes
to
these
safeguards
the
way
I
take
councilman
Carlson's
motion
that
incorporates
councilman
ding
Felder's
general
ideas
is
some
level
of
council
accountability.
Now,
if
we
take
a
look
at
a
vote
that
says
every
single
year,
you've
got
to
have
six
members
of
council
approving
you
or
else
you're
gone
or
five
members.
It
might
be
a
little
too
Taccone
and
you
know
you
could
have
maybe
something
where
excuse
me
through
a
supermajority
on
City
Council.
O
The
person
would
have
to
leave
five
to
two
again
I'm,
just
throwing
you
know
what
I
mean
in
that
regard,
so
that
some
of
our
concerns
can
be
addressed
in
in
place
of
something
that
could
potentially
be
more
draconian
for
the
higher
I
I
almost
want
to
make
it
a
seven
I
mean
we
shouldn't
do
this,
but
I
want
to
get
a
seven
to
zero
vote
on
that
higher.
We
want
to
drive
that
mom
amen.
O
I
mean
that
cannot
be
a
four
to
three
vote
of
five
to
two:
a
six
to
one
vote
on
these
issues
that
we
see
it's
got
to
be
a
seven
to
zero
vote,
but
some
measure
of
accountability
I
think
to
be
instituted
as
something
that
we
should
look
at
in
my
opinion.
But
it
can't
be
so
there's
a
balance.
It
can't
be
sort
of
cone
Ian
that
we're
gonna
be
pushing
back
good
people
from,
but
on
the
other
hand,
we
do
need
some
measure
of
accountability
through
City
Council
I.
O
A
O
I
think
that's
a
good
general
motion
that
that
should
get
wide
support
and
it
leaves
staff
with
a
number
of
options
that
we
can
look
at
for
accountability.
That
I
think
will
get
widespread
support
from
Council
as
well
as
I
would
think
the
administration
as
well.
So
that's
I'm
willing
to
support
that.
F
You
know
back
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
the
the
public
had
a
lot
of
concerns
about
how
things
were
done
before
and
sorry
to
have
that
scar
tissue
from
the
community
to
bring
forward
in
this
situation
and,
as
I
said
we're.
You
know
we're
trying
to
build
trust,
and
you
know
hate
to
do
that,
but
it
whether
it's
option,
A
or
B
I-
think
it
will
be
helpful
from
a
public
facing
point
of
view
to
show
a
or
B
as
the
HR
structure
and
then
separately
to
show
the
outsource
structure.
F
So
just
that
it
shows
the
person
you're
you
if,
if
they,
if
the
CRA
board
cancels
the
contract,
that
person
is
still
working
for
the
mayor
so
that
the
mayor
may
or
may
not
decide
to
keep
the
person.
But
the
person
has
to
perform
the
way
the
CRA
board
wants,
and
so
somehow
there's
there's
two
bosses.
So.
F
A
chart
like
that
that
we
could
show-
and
maybe
in
our
annual
reports,
the
miss
van
loan
says
if
we
could
have
that
in
the
front,
even
just
to
show
people
that
is
a
dual
relationship
and
we
need
to
I'll
enter
this
under
the
under
the
auspices
of
collegiality,
to
which
I
appreciate
your
help
and
the
mayor's
help
in
in
moving
this
forward.
It's
more
than
a
compromise.
It's
generous
that
you
all
are
being
so
kind
about
working
with
us
on
this.
Well.
K
I
think-
and
you
know
very
very
frequently-
I
speak
for
the
mayor
because
she's
much
better
at
than
I
am,
but
we
really
try
and
keep
our
eye
on
the
ball.
And
the
ball
to
me
is
the
citizens
and
the
outcomes
that
they
get
and
while
we're
still
early
in
this
administration,
seeing
where
we're
going
and
seeing
the
community
come
in
I.
Look
at
the
community's
comments
as
a
badge
of
honor,
because
we
have.
K
We
live
in
a
great
country
in
a
great
city
that
you
can
come
in
and
and
you
can
bring
your
passion
to
the
floor
and
we
need
to
listen
and
even
if
we
need
to
call
out
certain
things
to
get
an
operational
understanding
of
that.
That's
what
we're
here
to
do
so
I
think
it's
all
heading
in
the
right
direction
and
I
appreciate
the
feedback
from
the
board
today
about
putting
this
together
and
bring
it
back
to
you
in
30
days.
K
Yes,
the
managers
in
the
former
administration,
the
managers
reported,
including
the
support
staff
to
the
economic
development
administrator,
and
they
wrote
you
so
in
this
case,
this
new
director
would
be
writing
those
evaluations.
I
also
asked
for
midterms,
because
I'm
very
to
me,
it's
a
big
field
to
hear
from
get
feedback
at
least
twice
a
year,
if
not
daily.
K
A
E
Chair
and
I
apologize,
so
I
would
like
here's
my
motion
on
this
a
and
B
just
to
get
it
get
it
address,
because
I
didn't
want
it
to
impose
on
the
last
motion.
I
wanted
it
to
be
cleaner,
but
I
will
make
a
motion
that
this
body
respectfully
requests
that
when
the
administration
hires
and
when,
when
we
all
hire
the
CRA
director
and
everything
gets
set
up
and
they
hire
a
needy
and
everything
gets
set
up
that
that
that
they
respectfully
consider
going
with
the
be
approach.
E
I
again,
I,
don't
I'm
not
thrilled
about
the
idea
of
the
CRA
director
being
subservient
to
the
economic
development
direct
director,
who
then
answers
to
the
John
and
the
mayor
and
the
audio?
Do
it
so
that
that
I
can't
tell
them
what
to
do.
But
we
can
respectfully
request
that
they
consider
that
be
scenario.
Instead
of
a.
A
F
K
F
Yeah
and
for
me,
the
only
difference
is
that
I
think
that
the
goal
of
economic
development
is
different
than
the
goal
of
the
CRA
they're
similar,
but
they're
not
the
same,
and
you
know
I've
been
trying
to
get
us
off
the
the
singular
goal
of
real
estate
development,
which
I
think
everybody
is
focused
away
from
now,
but
it
just
so
that
we're
we're.
We
don't
want
economic
develop
to
influence
it.
It's
got
to
be
coordinated,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
that
we'd
have
to
do
it.
F
This
way
you
know
in
the
end,
the
fear
in
the
past
is
that
some
real
estate
development
comes
in
and
the
city
really
wants
to
land
it.
So
they
put
the
squeeze
on
the
CRA
to
say,
hey,
you
need
to
subsidize
this
deal
and,
and
then
all
the
CRA
money's
gone,
and
we
do
away
with
all
the
other
priorities
that
we
had.
A
O
F
A
Q
A
Q
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
give
it
to
you
and,
as
I
said
to
mr.
ding,
father
on
the
way
out,
I
hope
I'm
wrong,
but
as
it
turns
out
I'm
not
and
basically
you
know
again.
I
did
go
back
and
did
careful
research
on
the
statute
and
the
statutory
change.
The
legislative
changes.
The
Attorney
General
opinions
and
I
also
had
a
very
insightful
phone
conversation
with
Cliff
Shepard,
who
is
the
general
counsel
for
the
Florida
Redevelopment
Association
and
again
for
those
of
you
who
weren't
able
to
attend
the
conference.
Q
Also
the
city
attorney
for
the
city
of
Maitland,
the
town
attorney
for
the
town
of
Ponce
Inlet
land
use,
counsel
for
Satellite
Beach,
but
also
serves
as
CRA
counsel
for
numerous
smaller
cities
across
the
state
of
Florida
and
I
walked
clip
through
our
question,
and
he
said,
unfortunately
again
that
I
was
absolutely
correct,
that
TIF
funds
cannot
be
used
for
Workforce,
Development,
job
training
and
other
such
items
that
are
not
tied
to
bricks
and
mortar
redevelopment.
He
is
aware
that
some
cities,
such
as
city
of
st.
Q
S
S
Q
They
were
specifically
created
for
the
purpose
of
redevelopment
of
areas
that
were
suffering
from
slum
and
blight
and
I
I
told
him.
I
said
you
know
we
have
a
one
particular
board
member
with
the
sentiment
of
you
know:
I,
don't
like
all
this
focus
on
real
estate
development.
His
response
to
me
was,
and
I
quote,
the
purpose
of
a
CRA
is
real
estate
development
that
you
know
again.
That
is
what
a
CRA
is.
Your
powers
are
specifically
enumerated
in
Section
160,
3.37
B,
which
is
all
about
acquisition
of
property,
rehabilitation
of
property.
Q
You
know
building
of
streets
and
and
parks,
and
but
all
real
estate
development
related
and
then
again,
163
point
387,
/,
+,
6,
/
NC
specifically
enumerates
what
TIF
funds
can
be
spent
on
and
again,
the
significant
change
in
the
last
legislative
session
was
in
two
parts
of
the
statute,
including
what
I
just
quoted.
They
took
out
language
that
said,
including,
but
not
limited
to,
which
is
what
cities
and
counties
across
the
state
relied
on
to
do
all
these
other
things
with
TIF
funds.
Q
So
you
know
I'm
the
new
sheriff
in
town
and
I'm
having
to
talk
with
our
CRA
managers.
Well,
because
we've
really
got
to
start
looking
case-by-case
at
what
TIF
funds
are
being
spent
on.
But
again
they
really
it's
it's
absolutely
clear.
They
cannot
be
spent
on
job
training,
Workforce,
Development
and
then
one
final
comment
he
made
about
this
and
someone
brought
it
up
during
public
comment.
Q
This
concept
that
CRA
funds,
if
you
dissolve
a
CRA,
the
other
parts
of
the
city,
get
more
money
is,
is
really
a
false
premise,
because
what
what
TIF
financing
is
is
taking
the
increased
property
values
that
happen
as
a
result
of
you
know,
having
a
CRA
and
starting
to
do
redevelopment
taking
what
would
have
otherwise
gone
to
the
county
and
letting
it
stay
in
the
CRA
area
for
that
30-year
period.
He
said
the
way
he
describes
it
is.
Q
The
concept
is
basically
you're
taking
County
money
in
order
to
increase
property
values
in
the
CRA,
so
that
the
county
gets
a
return
on
its
investment
30
years
later,
when
it's
able
to
start
collecting
the
full
tax
dollars
again,
he
explains
to
financing
to
his
tips.
And
again
he
says
you
know
with
the
another
point
to
make.
Is
that
with
a
CRA,
the
money
that's
collected
in
one
area
of
the
city
is
being
put
back
into
the
community
that
paid
those
tax
dollars?
Q
So
again,
you
know
I
wanted
to
explain
that
to
you
before
you
finish,
identifying
your
priorities
for
the
CRA
s,
and
also,
as
we've
been
telling,
the
CRA
managers
is.
Unfortunately,
we
have
to
start
taking
a
much
more
careful
approach,
okay,
on
a
case-by-case
basis
as
to
how
see
our
TIF
monies
are
being
spent.
A
F
The
on
the
on
the
issue
of
how
taxes
are
allocated,
you
know
it's
it's
it's
created,
it's
keeping.
What
what
the
guy
said
is
is
a
common
explanation
that
I
hear,
but
the
the
bottom
line
is
that
the
money
is
being
kept
in
a
certain
area
and
it's
growing,
maybe
because
of
the
investments
or
not,
but
the
money
is
growing
in
there.
F
You
know
certain
amounts
of
money,
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
put
in.
We
couldn't
bond
them,
but
we
could.
We
could
make
that
investment
anyway.
But
the
bigger
point
is
that
my
concern
about
real
estate
is
more
about
a
big
developer.
Like
let's
say
a
developer
comes
into
East
Tampa
wants
to
spend
a
hundred
million
dollars
on
some
big
shopping
center,
and
then
we
put
all
the
CRA
money
in
that
district
in
that
development
or,
like
could
happen
up
by
the
USF
area.
F
My
concern
is
more
about
focusing
all
the
money
on
one
big
bet
and
we've
seen
what
happened
with
century
bore
and
the
old
channel
side.
The
old
Shops
at
Harbor,
Island
I,
don't
know
whether
any
CRA
money
paid
for
any
of
that.
But
we
see
money,
spent
city,
money
or
County
money
spent
on
a
development
that
fails
and
instead
I'd
like
it
to
be
spread
out.
Plus,
though
there
are
a
lot
of
things
it.
F
What
I
might
suggest
as
a
nuance
here-
and
you
can
disagree
with
me-
it's
not
the
I,
wouldn't
call
sidewalks
and
landscaping
and
roads
real
estate,
maybe
it's
bricks
and
mortar
or
some
kind
of
physical
structure
or
physical
environment.
But,
and
it's
not,
maybe
we
can't
spin
it
on
on
social
services,
but
I
think
even
sidewalks
and
roads
and
landscaping
are
better
than
spending
it
to
subsidize
a
big
developer
and
so
I.
Q
E
Just
in
regard
to
the
financial
part
of
it-
and
you
know,
I'm
not
advocating
we
dissolve
CRA
s,
but
it's
an
interesting
discussion
but
I
didn't
understand
the
financial
analysis,
because
right
now
the
downtown
the
downtown
CRA
I
think
is
generating
fifteen
million
dollars
of
TIF
annually.
Is
that
approximately
Michelle.
E
E
E
Q
E
S
C
S
S
S
So
I
just
want
to
address
councilman
Carlson's
concern
again:
Michelle
Van,
Loon
economic
development
when
the
CRA
s
invest
in
developments,
we're
not
investing
on
the
private
property
so
downtown.
All
that
investment
is
in
the
increased
capacity
and
replacement
of
storm
and
wastewater
and
water
capacity
lines
that
we
were
facing
anyway.
Prior
to
that
development.
Because
of
the
development,
we
sped
up
our
investment
in
the
infrastructure,
but
our
CRA
dollars
are
not,
and
I
can
say
this
with
a
higher
percent
certainty.
S
Our
CRA
dollars
are
not
being
spent
on
the
private
property
for
that
development
in
East,
Tampa
Daniel,
you
remember
the
Midland
Hotel
that
was
out
at
50th
Street.
It
was
dilapidated,
empty
vacant.
It
was
a
haven
for
drugs
and
prostitution
and
we
finally
had
developer
that
came
in
and
turned
to
the
quality
ins
and
Suites
we
put
in
$650,000
in
the
infrastructure
around
it.
The
sidewalks
widening
the
street.
They
donated
land.
S
So
we
could
make
a
full
dedicated
street
all
of
these
amounts
of
money
that
we
spent
adjacent
to
private
development,
to
help
sort
of
spur
and
catalyze
that
private
development
is
voted
on
at
the
CAC
level
and
then
comes
to
you.
So
if
there
were
decisions
made
in
the
past
that
you
feel
you
wouldn't
make,
all
of
those
decisions
will
come
to
you
for
that
final
vote
and
they
do
come
up
through
the
community
before
we
bring
them
here.
S
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understood
it's
not
some
backroom
deal
that
we
make
with
our
CRA
dollars.
Everything
goes
through.
Our
CA
sees
everything
comes
back
through
you
before
we
can
spend
it,
and
so
what
I
want
to
follow
up?
We
wanted
Andrea
to
go
first
to
talk
about
what
we
could
spend
on
for
two
different
issues.
We
still
only
really
have
one
person's
input
on
the
18
points
after
Andrea
spoke
to
cliff.
She
has
drafted
revised
18
points.
S
We
would
like
to
send
that
out
to
you,
circulate
it
for
feedback
and
comments
that
we
can
then
incorporate.
We
also
have
to
incorporate
some
of
this
discussion
regarding
the
executive
Director
position,
so
we
are
getting
back
to
you
on
that,
but
it
changed
direction
after
Andrea
talked
to
cliff.
So
is
that
an
acceptable
process.
A
S
At
the
workshop
I
had
sensual
after
that
workshop,
our
strategic
planning
workshop,
the
chart
taught
prioritize
I've
only
received
two
out
of
seven
feedback.
I
believe
you
all
need
a
little
bit
more
time,
but
given
Andrea's
again
comments
about
TIF
spending,
we
are
going
to
slightly
amend
that
to
gray
out
those
items,
so
I
don't
want
to
reflect
that
they
weren't
in
the
Sierra
piece,
but
we
are
gonna
gray
out
the
items
that
we
feel
no
longer
should
be
included
in
the
prioritization.
A
S
Know
we're
going
into
the
holiday
season,
so
that's
why
I'm
asking
it
you're
the
biggest
you're
setting
a
strategic
plan
and
guidance
for
the
CRA
S
is
gonna
have
a
big
impact
as
we
go
into
our
budgeting
session,
starting
in
the
spring
when
we
start
our
process,
so
that's
sort
of
when
we
would
like
to
have
completed
your
document
that
provides
that
kind
of
guidance
to
the
CAC
s
and
the
individual
CRA
districts.
So
that's
when
we're
sort
of
looking.
S
N
R
E
S
It
must
be
a
brother
to
my
dog.
Lastly,
so
is
there
anything
else
on
the
strategic
planning
workshop
part?
So
the
last
thing
that
chief
Bennett
wanted
to
mention
I
was
going
to
ask
about.
I
was
not
aware
of
councilman
Goodes
motion
about
the
task
force
and
community
input
on
the
pond,
so
I'm
just
requesting
that
the
fin
again
that
we're
going
into
holidays
I,
don't
want
to
risk
not
having
participation
by
the
community
or
members,
because
the
holidays
we'd
like
to
report
back
at
the
February
CRA
board
meeting.
A
R
Be
fine
and
I
just
want
to
make
it
out
there
there's
no
slight
to
the
manager,
so
I'm
gonna
make
that
clear.
It
just
say
no
right
now,
the
manager
has
so
many
other
projects
on
his
plate
and
I
want
a
a
designate
person
to
move
with
this
situation
here,
because
I
think
we
need
to
run
with
it.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
a
big
part
of
his
Tampa
and
that's
why
I
made
that
motion.
Oh
I
did
but
I
have
no
problem
with
the
extending
the
time
on
that.
Thank.
E
O
A
F
F
We
heard
this
morning
there's
at
least
a
need
for
20,000,
more
units
of
housing
and
maybe
as
many
as
50,000
and
the
Tampa
Housing
Authority,
and
all
the
people
out
there
don't
have
enough
money
to
build
anywhere
near
what
we
need
I
I
would
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
ask
staff
to
hypothetically
look
at
what
we
could
do
if
we
took
30%
of
each
of
this
series
funding
and
applied
it
to
affordable
housing
solutions,
not
committing
to
doing
that,
but
just
to
look
at
what
we
could
do.
If
we
did
that.
B
F
A
Didn't
hear
today,
I'll
pay
for
it
as
chair
I
can
set
the
agenda,
however,
I
would
like
a
except
for
the
two
that
are
not
here,
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
public
comments
be
put
in
or
have
caught
public
comments
spoken
right
after
our
invocation
pledge
and
roll
call
angle
on
and
that
all
other
agenda
items.
And/Or
staff
reports
are
time
sensitive
time,
definite
starting
at
10
o'clock
who
seconded
it
question.
A
K
A
A
F
E
E
Q
B
A
I'm
sure
there's
other
things
we
could
do.
Yeah
I
believe
it
would
be
much
better
if
we
have
public
comment
instead
of
making
the
citizens
that
come
down
here,
each
and
every
time,
their
each
and
every
Thursday
to
speak
their
peace
definitive
word,
there
is
peace
that
they
are
not
having
to
sit
and
that
way
we
can
hear
their
voices
earlier
on
I.