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A
A
D
A
Mr.
only
goose,
okay
and
council
member
and
sir,
if
you
could,
please
read
the
first
public
hearing
statement.
F
Yes,
sir,
mr.
chairman,
this
is
the
first
public
hearing
statement.
This
is
a
first
public
hearing
statement,
the
city
Tampa
for
physical
year,
2020
budget.
That
proposed
millage
rate
is
six
point
two.
Oh
seven,
six
mills,
which
is
six
point
seven
more
than
the
rollback
millage
of
five
point.
Eight
one,
eight
one
Mills
property
tax
funds
are
used
to
support
the
general
fund
operating
budget
of
the
city.
This
fund
includes
such
Department
is
Fire,
Rescue,
police,
human
resources
and
park
and
recreation.
F
A
You
very
much
any
questions
or
comments
from
Council
at
this
time
before
we
take
public
comment:
okay,
seeing
none,
we
move
forward
to
public
comment
for
the
operating
and
capital
budgets.
If
anyone
is
here
to
publicly
comment
on
the
budget,
you
have
three
minutes
and
now
is
your
time
to
come
forward.
A
B
But
then
it's
you
and
I
and
mr.
Bennett
went
through
some
questions
the
other
day
and
there
were
still
some
outstanding
issues.
I
was
waiting
to
hear
back
from
you
guys.
B
Let
me
just
run
through
some
of
the
questions
generally
and
the
benefit
of
our
my
fellow
council
members
I'm
on
page
6
of
the
that
back
section.
What's
it
called
the
budget
supplement.
B
G
B
I'm
sorry,
what
page
is
that
sir
I'm,
on
page
six
of
the
budget
supplement
in
the
back
of
my
book
and
there's
a
whole
slew
of
TCC?
Yes
TCC
items
about
ten
of
them
more
than
that,
probably
but
anyway,
but
looking
at
the
at
the
total,
it
appears
that
Commissioner
has
revenue
in
it
and
excessive
expenses
and
I
was
just
wondering
we
as
the
CRA
and
I.
A
nine
of
the
CRA
budget
is
somewhere
tucked
in
here
as
well,
have
been
asked
to
pay
the
capital
improvements
for
the
Convention,
Center
I.
G
Can
tell
you
this,
based
on
our
discussion
the
other
day
that
the
the
CR
is
to
make
it
a
banknote:
payment
of
4.2
million
dollars,
partially
from
the
core
and
non-core
funds
and
the
tourism
development
tax.
In
terms
of
the
larger
philosophical
question
as
to
why
your
suppling
supplementing
the
Convention
Center
I,
don't
know
offhand.
E
Perry
city's
budget
officer
and
while
the
20
budget
may
show
a
a
net
revenue
increase
from
the
Convention
Center.
Their
revenue
is
a
solely
reliable
subject
to
the
whims
of
the
market,
and
so
it's
not
a
reliable
revenue
source
that
the
the
CRA
revenues
are
because
we
have
a
dedicated
TIF
contribution
for
the
state
require
to
make
to
the
CRA.
But.
B
The
CRA
doesn't
get
I
mean
in
a
positive
year,
like
this
I
believe
this
is
a
positive
year.
That's
past
year
for
this,
for
the
convention
center
correct.
That
is
correct,
approximately
three
million
dollars.
So
yes,
sir,
in
a
positive
year
like
that,
are
they
paying
the
CRA
back?
No
sir,
they
are
not
okay
and
what
happens
to
their
excess
revenues.
They.
E
Go
into
the
general
revenue,
the
general
fund
to
pay
for
other
general
governmental
support,
TPD,
TFR,
Parks
and
Rec
T&I
planning
and
development.
It's
all
part
of
the
general
revenue
revenue
stream
and
don't
forget
it's
only
in
recent
history
that
the
convention
center
has
been
making
money.
How
long.
E
B
All
right,
thank
you,
I'm
on
page
12
and
thus
in
the
same
item.
This
is
under
expense
report.
I
noticed
we
have
approximately
six
million
dollars
in
this
next
year's
budget
of
overtime
and
I
was
wondering
if
the
administration
can
speak
to
that,
it
seems
to
be
pretty
consistent
over
the
years
from
2017
until
now,
with
a
slight
decrease
this
year
and
over
time,
are
we
understaffed
and
that's
why
we're
that's
why
we
need
to
pay
overtime
or
what.
G
We
have
been
making
an
attempt
and
I
think
we
were
successful
this
this
year
and
I
think
the
projections,
if
I
looking
at
the
line
on
them
here,
you
recall
or
you'll,
see.
Excuse
me
in
fiscal
year
17
the
actual
amount
of
overtime
was
nearly
seven
million
dollars.
We
have
reduced
that
I'd
say
pretty
significantly
to
have
projected
over
time
this
year
of
just
over
six
point
three
million
dollars
to
about
$700,000.
As
you
look
next
year,
we
have.
We
anticipate
we're
going
to
continue
to
reduce
the
amount
of
overtime
to
five
point.
G
Seven,
almost
five
point:
eight
million
dollars,
that's
a
combination
of
things.
First
of
all,
management,
paying
closer
attention
to
the
overtime
expenditures
which
I
think
will
carry
forward
from
the
current
year
into
next
year,
and
you
may
recall
we
have
increased
the
extra
duty
rate
associated
with
Police
Department
in
it
and
special
events.
We
anticipate
that's
going
to
lead
to
less
need
for
over
time
as
we
staff
those
positions
with
officers,
earning
quote
extra
duty
as
opposed
to
working
for
the
city
on
an
overtime
basis.
In
answer
to
your
question,
are
we
understaffed?
G
You
know,
I
can't
tell
you
what
the
right
answer
is.
Of
course,
we
still.
You
will
recall
from
previous
presentations
that
compared
to
our
position
compliment
before
the
great
recession,
we're
still
about
five
hundred
positions
down
you've
seen
the
graphs
that
show
our
number
of
position
related
to
the,
how
many
thousands
of
citizens
and
customers
that
we
serve
and
the
citizens
keep
going
up
and
the
positions
have
been
continued
to
be
on
a
downward
track.
So
we
have
less
positions.
We've
talked
about
employees
doing
more
with
less
and
I,
certainly
think
they're
doing
that.
G
Some
of
that
will
feed
into
the
overtime
as
you
use
overtime
dollars
to
use
those
overtime
dollar
resources
to
get
the
job
done
in
the
absence
of
some
of
those
positions.
Now,
having
said
that,
as
I've
said
before,
there's
a
balance
between
having
the
flexibility
to
use,
overtime,
funding
and
increasing
the
number
of
positions
and
employees
you
have
which
are
much
more
difficult
and
and
troublesome
at
reducing.
If
and
when
they're
necessary,.
H
I'm,
a
little
confused
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
how
extra
duty
pay
will
help
with
overtime,
because
extra
duty
pay
is
consider
the
officer
who
wants
to
work
extra
duty.
So
we
just
raised
the
stadium
pricing
I'm,
going
to
try
and
I,
don't
think
we
have
odor
on
yet
to
get
that
number
up.
The
extra
duty
rate
is
going
up
for
the
stadium,
so
most
officers
will
work
because
they
want
to
work
so
I'm,
trying
to
figure
out
how.
How
does
that
correlate
the
city
paying
overtime
for
jobs
versus
a
guy?
G
Over
the
past
couple
of
years,
we
have
found
that
the
former
extra
duty
rate
is
simply
not
enough
incentive
to
fill
the
positions
that
are
required
for
extra
duty
assignments
and
when
we
can't
fill
those
positions,
we
need
officers
to
do
it
on
an
intra
time
basis,
which
is
much
more
expensive
than
an
extra
duty
rate,
even
the
new
extra
duty
rate
and
includes
benefits
pensionable
expenses.
Things
like
that,
so
you're
getting
hopefully
and
again,
we
just
implemented
this
you're,
getting
the
resources
necessary
at
an
overall,
cheaper
price,
but.
G
H
G
And
I
think
they're
they're,
roughly
synonymous
extra
duty
and
special
event.
We
pay
officers
an
extra
duty
rate
for
functioning
and
providing
a
resource
at
a
special
event,
and
those
special
events
can
go
from
just
as
you
said,
you
know,
maybe
you're
at
a
restaurant,
maybe
you're
at
a
bar
or
maybe
you're
at
Super
Bowl
is
the.
A
H
E
Is
Ginny
Owens
he's
my
vice
president
to
speak
to
on
the
off
duty.
The
off
duty
is
a
rate
that's
paid
by
the
vendor.
The
reason
why
it's
going
up
and
rate
is
because
he's
right
it
was
so
low
the
officers
weren't
taking
care
of
it,
but
they
were
pulling
from
patrol
on
the
street
to
fill
those
positions.
There
was
no
overtime
being
in
as
far
as
I
know
what
was
giving
at
all.
So
that's
why
the
rates
going
up
so
more
officers
will
want
to
work.
I
E
J
F
E
B
K
I
didn't
want
to
speak
out
of
turn
just
about
the
convention
center
and
I'm,
not
gonna,
argue
the
point
anything
but
I
have
had
people
from
the
tourism
community,
especially
the
the
hotel.
Yours
come
and
say
that
they
would,
rather,
since
they
feel
like
it's,
some
of
their
money
is
going
toward
the
convention
center
that
they
they
feel
like.
We
should
look
at
the
Convention
Center
as
an
economic
engine,
not
just
as
a
profit,
Center
and
I
know.
L
B
B
So
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
if
so,
you
know
I'm
prepared
to
make
similar
motion
that
I
made
last
week
and
see
where
it
goes,
or
is
that
not
necessary
because
it's
gonna
come
in
otherwise,
but
so
anyway,
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
moving
parts
of
that
question
John.
But
where
are
we
on
that
issue?
Yeah.
L
So,
being
at
the
the
workshop
and
hearing
this
firsthand
and
talking
to
you
offline,
obviously
we
heard
the
group
come
up
and
talk
about
what
they're
trying
to
do
in
the
community.
I
think
everybody
agreed
that
they're
trying
to
continue
to
provide
that
service
and
as
a
nonprofit,
the
the
challenges
I've
asked
for
a
few
things,
some
of
them
that
we
received
looked
at
their
budget.
We
asked
them
firsthand
or
you
did
at
least
what
their
funding
looked
like
over
the
past
couple
years.
L
I
think
the
concern
is
is
that
the
funding
has
been
cut
and
they're.
You
know
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
their
state
of
health
is
as
far
as
delivering
those
services,
even
though
the
ones
that
we've
seen
have
been
really
well
received
by
the
community.
So
there
is
no
decision
at
this
point.
If
the
administration
has
looked
at
it,
we've
looked
at
the
data.
We've
looked
at
that
I
think.
L
B
D
Counsel,
it
Thank
You
mr.
chairman,
if
I
can
just
a
reminder
that
section
7.07
the
budget
changes
is
that
after
this
budget
passes
the
the
way
that
council
can
change,
the
budget
is
upon
the
recommendation
of
the
mayor.
So
it
is
the
mayor
after
this
point
after
this
budget
is
passed
that
initiates
the
budget
changes
you
may
want
to
talk
to
the
staff.
We
have
a
new
administration,
a
new
mayor
and
perhaps
a
new
agreement
or
a
new
process
about
how
going
about
it.
D
But
my
suggestion
would
be
if
council
wishes
to
add
that
in
the
budget,
I
should
also
remind
you
that
it
does
not
necessarily
require
the
mayor
to
spend
money.
That's
allocated.
It
is
actually
that's
an
administrative
function.
So
council
cannot
compel
that
of
the
way
this
government
is
structured.
So
that
being
said,
the
best
suggestion
I
could
make
is
I.
Don't
know
whether
they're
able
to
relay
the
administration's
position,
but
I
had
an
opportunity
to
speak
briefly
with
mr.
Torito
about
the
process
of
the
way
you
intended
to
move
forward.
D
B
I
L
I
It
sounds
for
the
legal
department
in
the
past,
since
you
have
come
back
after
a
bit
of
a
gap
there
and
the
past
couple
of
years,
when
this
has
come
up.
If
the
administration
has
agreed
to
your
change,
you're,
not
changing
the
budget
at
this
particular
time,
what
it
is
it
once
there's
an
agreement
reached
rather
than
go
through
the
whole
process
of
having
to
rearrange
everything
in
the
budget.
I
Now
that
the
administration
concurs
that
they
will
come
back
in
the
first
meeting
in
October
and
add
that
to
the
budget
rather
than
make
the
change
in
this
document
at
this
particular
time
it
gets
to
be
a
little
bit
more
cumbersome.
That's
how
it's
been
done
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
If
there's
been
agreement
between
the
administration
and
the
City
Council,
so
it's
on
a
handshake,
it's
it's
more
than
a
handshake.
If
the
mayor
and
the
administration
makes
that
promise
that
they've
kept
it
every
time.
B
Under
other
contractual
services,
this
is
lying
fifty
three
four
zero,
four:
zero,
zero,
seven.
So
in
Dennis,
this
is
something
you
and
I
talked
about
a
little
bit
at
the
last
meeting.
So
in
2017
we
had
contractual
services
to
the
tune
of
four
million
dollars
it
jumped
significantly
in
eighteen
to
six
million
and
now
in
2020,
where
it's
seven
million
again.
This
goes
to
that
labor
issue.
What's
going
on
with
our
labor
and
why?
Why
do
we
continually
go
outside
which
I
can't
help
but
think
it's
more
expensive
than
hiring
employees.
G
Yes,
in
this
particular
instance,
it
has
a
couple
of
I,
don't
say,
anomalies,
but
big-ticket
items
in
fiscal
year.
Twenty
discussing
with
you
at
the
meeting
we've
gone
back
and
done
some
research.
The
police
department,
for
instance,
has
a
little
over
one
and
a
half,
almost
one
point:
six
million
dollars
identified
in
fiscal
year,
twenty
compared
to
fiscal
year.
Nineteen
for
the
body,
worn
cameras
that
you're
all
are
familiar
with
middle
school,
crossing
guards
and
and
other
miscellaneous
contracts,
but
as
I
believe
you
all
are
aware.
G
Body
worn
cameras
are
not
only
going
to
be
a
significant
asset
expense,
but
a
significant
operating
expense,
and
that's
where
you'll
find
the
expense
in
the
in
this
particular
supplement.
You
also
have
some
expenses
in
there
associated
with
Parks
and
Recreation
grounds,
maintenance,
which
again
I
know.
We've
talked
about
that
before
to
the
tune
of
a
little
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars.
G
So
an
answer
to
your
question:
again:
there's
a
balance
in
there
somewhere
in
terms
of
what
sort
of
in-house
resources
we
use
to
get
the
job
done
with
our
employees
and
what's
of
third-party
vendor
resources,
we
use
to
get
the
job
done,
but
I
did
want
to
make
you
aware,
there's
a
big,
specific,
big-ticket
item
in
there.
That's
inflating
it.
Okay,.
B
Thank
you
item
page
17,
under
personnel
services
and
benefits
budget.
You
deserve
it.
What's
kind
of
neat
about
these
pages,
it
does
give
us
a
little
bit
of
history
again
because
it
gives
us
17
numbers,
the
18
numbers
and
the
18
numbers
19
numbers
and
then
the
prospective
2020
20
numbers.
So
you
can
sort
of
see
it.
What
direction
we're
headed.
So
when
the
budget
reserves
and
I've
always
said
all
along
it's
important
to
have
reserves,
it
appears
in
17.
B
G
Sir,
thank
you
again.
You
will
recall
we
discuss
this
at
the
meeting
and
based
on
your
question,
we
went
back.
I
went
back
and
did
some
research.
This
is
a
special
reserve.
The
funding
you
see
here
is
funding
being
held
in
abeyance
pending
the
completion
of
contract
negotiations
with
the
collective
bargaining
units.
Whatever
pay
raises
that
we
arrived
at
in
negotiations
with
the
unions,
we
will
pull
from
that
that
reserve
funding.
This
is
separate
and
apart
not
to
be
confused
and
I
know
we
throw
the
word
reserve
around
quite
a
bit.
B
B
That
for
you,
okay
and
while
we're
waiting
and
that's
out
of
generally
out
of
general
generally
out
of
the
general
fund.
Yes,
general
fund
revenues,
okay,
so
again
not
to
not
to
belabor
the
point.
But
when
we're
talking
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
which,
by
my
estimate,
is
0.01
of
a
percent
of
the
total
billion
dollar
budget,
we
have
5.7
million
in
reserves
of
going
to
reserves
this
year.
G
B
B
F
Yes,
yes,
so
that's
one
item
that
you
have
to
realize
is
there
the
second
one
in
most
important
in
my
book
anyway?
Is
that
there's
two
things
that
need
always
addressing?
No
matter
what
government
you
in
they're,
very
young
and
they're,
very
elderly
and
the
young
people
we
started
and
working
well
with
Parks
and
Rec
to
give
them
the
opportunity
to
stay
longer
hours
and
I.
Think
that's
worked
beautifully.
You
see.
All
of
us
were
young
once
and
I
know
about
the
rest
of
you,
but
I
was
no
angel.
F
However,
I
had
a
place
to
go
called
cascading,
Park
and
I
had
amenities
there
and
go
back
in
history
and
what
we
had,
then
we
don't
have
now.
Each
Park
in
the
city
Tampa
had
at
least
two
employees
from
the
parks
department,
one
that
handled
the
girls,
athletics
and
the
other
one
did
handle
the
young
boys
athletics
and
the
amount
of
time
that
we
spent
at
the
park
I
think
was
equal
to
or
greater
than
the
amount
of
time
we
spent
in
school
because
we
Wars
at
the
park
a
very
common.
F
Why
we
didn't
have
the
amenities
we
have
today.
There
was
really
no
cell
phones.
In
fact,
none
at
all.
There
was
television
when
I
was
young,
but
some
of
us
didn't
have
it.
I
was
one
of
them
and
like
most
in
those
areas
in
Ybor
City,
most
of
us
didn't
have
anything
but
the
park.
So
all
I
was
worth
the
park
day
and
night
during
the
summer
months
and
it
kept
us
out
of
trouble,
but
it
taught
us
more
than
just
yet
on
trouble.
F
It
taught
us
how
to
deal
with
people
how
to
talk
to
people,
because
when
you
interacting
you
have
sports
and
by
the
way,
I
was
very
happy
to
see
when
they
had
that
basketball.
Mr.
booth
was
there
and
I
was
there
and
and
the
kids
that
I
saw
the
energy
that
I
saw
at
that
basketball
court
was
unbelievable
and
the
kids
were
getting
along
so
well
with
each
other,
even
though
they
were
playing
getting
at
each
other.
F
That's
how
a
life
that's,
how
you
built
up
what
you're
gonna
be
later
on
like
so
you
have
to
take
care
of
the
young
and
the
elderly
in
my
book
when
you
look
at
all
these
grants,
they
come
in
about
for
this
fixing
this
there's
not
enough
money
to
fix
five
percent
of
what's
needed
in
roofs
and
houses.
That'll
fall
yeah.
We
go
out
of
paint
your
heart
out.
Do
things
like
that,
but
for
every
house
we
paint
there's
a
thousand
that
needed
for
every
roof.
F
We
fix
there's
a
thousand
that
needed
and
what
it
is
is
that
I
don't
want
them
to
be
forgotten
and
I
understand
what
he's
saying,
but
if
I
have
to
give
some
money
up.
In
my
opinion,
I
wanted
to
go
to
youth
or
the
elderly,
because
those
are
the
two
in
society.
The
youth
are
going
to
be
the
next
leaders
and
the
elderly
are
forgotten
when
they
live
Thank
You.
Mr.
chairman.
H
At
your
leadership,
I
guess
what
bothers
me,
I,
I,
put
a
couple
of
items
on
the
floor,
shall
not
hurt
back
about
those
items
and
mr.
Miranda
leads
to
lead
me
right
into
it.
We
talked
about
the
the
elderly
and
children.
You
know
again,
III
mean
clear
last
time,
my
community's
hungry
and
they
were
expecting
a
while
to
come
to
our
community
I
was
willing
to
compromise.
We
have
a
CRA,
it's
willing
to
put
up
some
dollars,
but
we
need
dollars
coming
from
the
general
fund.
I
still
stand
by
our
Center
Rutina
maker,
Center
I.
H
Think
this
council
realized
that
they
understand
that
it
was
noble
about
the
four
thousand
dollars
to
do
another
study
or
we
pat
we're
past
studies
in
district
5
studies
are
good,
but
we
continue
to
study,
study
study.
We
came
to
blow
money
and
I
understand
I'm,
confusing
I
just
talked
right,
your
legal
counsel.
H
He
says
it
seems
like
the
rules
have
been
changing
back
and
forth
and
back
and
forth
and
reference
to
how
we
get
things
in
the
budget
from
this
counsel
with
the
administration
but
I'm
prepared
to
see
the
council
to
put
emotional
in
for
reference
to
what
we
add.
What
I
asked
for
promised
to
my
district
I
think
it's
needed
I
think
it's
warranted.
Number
two
is
the
fire
rescue
car
I?
H
Don't
understand
the
pushback
on
the
fire
rescue
for
car
of
a
full
time
rescue
car
in
my
district
you've
just
sent
to
those
two
peak
cars
for
the
emergency
services
to
other
places.
Those
are
two
cars
that
are
here
that
could
be
utilized
I,
don't
understand
whether
the
extra
money
cost
has
to
come
in
for
that
car.
When
we
have
two
existing
cars
here,
I'm
not
understanding
a
car
was
taking
on
a
server
with
10
12
13
years
ago
from
each
team
has
never
been
replaced,
I'm
just
understanding.
H
What
is
the
pushback
on
that
and
I
know
the
union's
here
and
I'd
like
to
hear
their
concern
about
that,
because
these
are
the
guys
who
have
to
go
out
there
and
I'm
working
hard
and
a
balun
every
day
and
I
just
want
to
hear
from
them
and
see
what
their,
what
their,
what
their
take
on
it,
because
the
community's
asking
about
it.
I'm
gonna
fight
for
my
issues,
I'm
gonna
fight
today,
it's
the
fourth
quarter,
I'm
at
the
goal
line
I
have
a
team
up
here
and
he
somebody
help
me
score.
J
Greco
Tampa
firefighters,
President
Andrew
corners
vice
president
Union.
So
the
concern
that
mr.
Goodes
brought
to
us
was
that
about
the
rescue
car
that
once
was
at
station
10
that
rescue
car
was
removed
from
there
and
put
at
station
7,
which
is
at
Hana
and
Nebraska.
It
was
never
replaced
that
area
of
East
Tampa
everything
from
orient
Road
to
22nd
Street
from
poor
to
tamp
all
the
way
to
MLK,
and
actually
it
runs
even
farther.
J
J
It's
man
with
a
lieutenant
and
a
paramedic
lieutenants,
make
quite
a
bit
of
money
and
when
you
pay
them
overtime,
we
just
don't
see
where
it's
it's
a
good
idea
to
spend
overtime
money
when
you
could
staff
it
full-time
at
straight
pay,
and
just
by
moving
some
people
around
in
the
city,
we
have
staff
to
do
it.
They
need
to
be
reallocated
used
more
efficiently
and
their
staff
there
to
do
that.
We
also
have
rescue
cars.
J
Why
couldn't
we
just
staff
one
of
those
rescue
cars
full-time?
That
unit
came
out
of
there
17
years
ago
and
it's
never
been
replaced.
I,
don't
know
that
it
was
city's
intention
to
let
it
go.
17
years
at
the
time,
I
was
at
station
10
that
rescue
car
was
removed
because
station
10
was
in
disrepair.
They
had
to
add
a
bathroom
to
it.
There
was
a
bunch
of
reasons
why
it
didn't
fit
anymore.
We
had
too
many
people,
there
was
no
parking
and
they
moved
it
to
rescue
seven,
but
it
was
never
replaced.
J
J
You
left
it
bare
for
17
years
and
you
and
we've
drawn
in
other
rescue
cars
out
of
the
other
very
important
parts
of
the
city
into
that
area.
So
it's
definitely
need
I,
don't
know
why
we
keep
kicking
the
can
they're
putting
a
band-aid
on
a
bullet
hole
with
it
with
another
12-hour
car
paying
at
time-and-a-half
when
you
could
pay
straight
time,
just
reallocate
some
manpower.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank
you.
K
A
K
Greco,
sorry,
sorry,
do
you
have
any
way
to
quantify
what
the
the
loss
of
life
is
or
additional
injury
from
people
not
be
able
to.
J
We
run
every
call
in
this
city.
Everybody
gets
to
a
hospital
it
has
to
do
with.
If
you
look
back
historically
over
time
and
I'll,
give
you
some
quick
numbers
in
84,
we
ran
25,000
calls
this
year
will
run
approximately
90,000
calls
give
or
take
it
could
be
92.
It
could
be
91
somewhere
in
that
neighborhood.
So
over
time
we
have
an
increased
manpower
in
this
city.
We've
actually
shrank
manpower
in
the
city.
We
did
add
some
stations
in
the
North
End,
but
they
didn't
take
anything
out
of
the
city.
J
So
if
you
had
a
couple
calls
in
that
district,
you
would
have
rescue
cars
coming
out
of
station
18
at
34th
and
Hillsborough,
or
a
station
downtown
going
into
that
area
or
potentially
taking
one
out
of
Robles
Park
into
that
area,
leaving
those
areas
blanket
blank
from
from
ALS
coverage,
so
so
they
make
we
make
it
and
we
pick
up
everybody.
We
don't
leave
anybody
out
there
hanging,
but
it
just
takes
longer
to
get
there
because
they're
coming
from
a
farther
distance.
J
That
is
one
of
the
most
needed
areas
in
the
city
and,
like
I
said,
we've
been
talking
about
it
for
years
and
years
and
years
I,
don't
know
why
that
rescue
car
never
went
back
in,
like
I,
said
I,
don't
think
it
was
ever
fire
staffs
intention
or
city's
intention
to
not
put
one
back,
I
believe
it.
It
just
happened
and
it
never
got
picked
back
up.
There
is
staffing
for
it.
They're
gonna
have
to
use
manpower
more
more
effectively,
but
they're,
currently
they're
staffing
for
it
and
the
rest
of
cars
there.
J
So
I,
don't
think
you
have
to
increase
budget
to
do
it.
I
think
I
read
somewhere
that
they
want
five
hundred
ninety
thousand
dollars
in
overtime
money
to
pay
for
a
12-hour
car
when
it's
not
necessary
at
all.
We
need
to
restock
with
some
we
have
to
unassigned
lieutenants.
Now
we
have,
we
only
need
to
promote
one
which
we
have
eight
on
a
list
and
have
your
three
lieutenants.
J
Now
you
have
to
take
some
people
off
of
rescue
cars
that
are
there
Jerry
personnel
at
that
station
and
put
them
at
a
full-time
assignment
which
would
be
station
16
or
wherever
the
city,
staff
and
and
fire
staff
would
decide
they
wanted
it.
16
would
be
the
the
most
advantageous
because
it
has
room
for
it.
J
Station
10
does
not
have
room
for
it.
It
could
backfill
all
the
necessary
areas.
So
to
answer
your
question:
I,
don't
think
anybody's
being
left
out
there
not
having
a
rescue
car
ascertain
as
they
need
it.
It
just
takes
a
little
longer
to
get
there
remember.
We
all
have
fire
trucks
that
get
there.
First,
fire
trucks
are
first
responders
and
we're
paramedics
on
all
the
fire
trucks.
Now,
so
they
get
someone
there
to
work
on
them.
They
just
don't
have
somebody
to
take
them
to
the
hospital
as
quick
as
what
they
could
have.
Sir.
Yes,.
H
A
You
can't
always
get
what
you
want,
but
if
you
try
sometimes
you
just
might
find
you
get
what
you
need
when
I
when
I
look
at
this
budget,
the
issue
is,
what
do
we
need
and
what
is
a
need
in
in
terms
of
things,
there
were
certain
things
that
I
had
submitted
early
on
for
the
budget,
some
of
which
have
come
out,
some
of
which
haven't
budgets,
aren't
always
black
and
white.
There's
always
a
lot
of
gray
in
a
budget.
A
I've
never
voted
for
a
budget,
just
in
my
two
and
a
half
years
on
council,
where
I
go,
there's
nothing
bad
in
that,
and
everything's
good
and
I
voted
for
two
budgets.
There's
a
lot
of
different
issues
in
there.
You
know
one
thing
now:
councilman
Goods:
this
is
a
Senior
Center
you're
talking
about
an
arts
because.
H
A
A
Just
to
put
it
out
there,
for
example,
in
fiscal
year,
2018
budget
I
proposed
to
their
mayor
of
mayor
Buckhorn
that
we
fund
a
design
for
an
autism
Park
to
take
place
in
New
Tampa
I
wanted
to
see
that
Park
as
part
of
this
budget
will
be
pushing
hard
for
it
next
year.
Certainly,
but
that's
certainly
a
good
step.
I
just
suggest
as
a
potential
compromise,
which
is
a
design
for
something
like
that,
because
before
you
do
construction,
you
got
to
do
design
just
most
my
experience.
What.
H
I'll
do
is
spend
the
Chairman
and
again
I
respect
what
you're
saying,
but
we've
been
in
the
design
move.
For
years
over
there
we've
been
asking
for
designs
for
years,
I've
got
a
CRA
that
has
money
that
we've
been
asking
I'm
having
roadblocks.
Oh,
we
can't
do
so.
We
shouldn't
do
that,
but
why
we
have
a
CRA
as
money
for
infrastructure
I'm,
just
tired
of
the
pushback
and
I'm
sorry
that
that
I
understand
we
have
budget
budgeted
items,
but
we
have
to
look
at
what
I
needs
are
now.
Mr.
H
Miranda
said
it
perfectly
all
right,
elderly
and
our
children
and
I'm.
Just
sorry
that
that
people
feel
that
hey
it's
just
these
Tampa,
you
know
they
are
always
yelling
and
crying,
but
we
yelling
cry
because
we
get
nothing
and
this
budget
should
have
had
some
type
of
wow.
So
our
community
concede
that
hey
this
councilors
administration
see
the
knees
we
understood.
H
We
heard
your
cries
and
I'm
just
not
backing
off,
know
how
it
goes,
but
I
back
out
and
I
have
to
be
the
bully
fit
horn
for
my
community
and
for
my
district
and
I'm
not
backing
off
of
the
issue
that
we
can
allocate
money
for
that
senior
size,
culture,
arts,
center,
bright
kids
over
these
table
and
a
full-time
fire
rescue
cars.
Young
and.
A
I
want
to
check
with
the
administration
the
all's
position
on
these
changes
on
on
fire
in
in
councilman
goods
district.
What
net
effect,
if
any
that
would
have
on
the
budget
just
so,
we
have
a
clearer
picture
of
all
positions,
just
I
guess
after
our
pretty
I
guess
so
any
further
questions
before
we
have
a
ten
minute
break.
A
K
There
were
a
lot
of
true
or
not.
There
were
a
lot
of
accusations
that
the
last
mayor
would
really
kill,
City
Council
and
say
they
had
no
power
other
than
to
prove
my
budget
and
and
I
talked
last
time
about
about.
Counting
of
for
this
mayor
has
said
to
me
privately
and
I'm
sure
to
you
all
too
that
this
is
not
how
she
wants
to
operate.
K
K
B
C
L
You
again,
John
Bennett
chief
of
staff,
I
appreciate
being
invited
up
to
to
talk
through
these
things.
As
you
know,
the
memo
was
issued
in
the
spirit
of
collegial
effort
here
to
try
and
bring
the
right
assessment
to
the
entire
city
about
placing
the
right
facilities,
the
right
programs,
the
right
things
in
the
right
spots.
L
There's
a
lot
of
private
sector
opportunities
out
there
that
are
supported
by
the
city
and
we
need
to
understand
what
their
programs
are
and
where
their
programs
are,
which
which
ones
are
empty
you
which
ones
are
full.
So
this
is
a
way
of
administration.
Coming
back
off
of
the
ass
for
east
half
off
of
the
ass
of
the
autism
park
and
saying
where
should
these
things
go,
it
doesn't
have
to
drag
out
it's
a
commitment.
This
has
been
a
I've,
been
part
of
an
action
driven
government
process
for
35
years.
L
It's
not
going
to
slow
down
now
so
I
think
the
commitment
of
$400,000
is
different
than
what
a
commitment
was
to
study
in
previous
scenarios.
This
is
real.
It's
designed
to
put
the
right
things
in
the
right
spot.
It's
not
going
to
be
a
band-aid
and
I
think
we
have
the
chance
to
go
forward
and
I
said
it
before
co-create
government
together,
which
means
that
with
Council
the
administration
and,
most
importantly,
the
community
that
we
serve
has
an
opportunity
to
put
the
right
facilities
in
the
right
spot
from
here
going
forward.
L
L
You
know
bid
in
other
parts,
I've
spent
most
of
my
time
in
Eastham
for
30
years
of
it
predominantly
in
North,
Tampa
I,
said
a
lot
of
chance
to
see
the
programs
that
happen
there,
but
how
do
they
align
with
the
changing
times
and
the
demographics
and
the
opportunities
we
have
a
responsibility
to
be
efficient,
effective
and
equitable
and
I
live
by
those
three
e's
I
think
the
administration's
lives
by
those
threes
and
I.
Think
that's
what
you're,
seeing
with
that
400,000
as
it
relates
to
the
the
East
Tampa
fire
rescue
response.
L
You
know
when
that
came
up.
The
first
thing,
I
asked
questions
are:
is
level
of
service?
There's
you
know
to
make
it
really
simple,
for
my
understanding
is
that
you
have
a
time
distance
thing
when
it
comes
to
rescue
service,
and
then
you
have
density.
How
many
calls
do
you
have
so
you
have
concurrency?
L
You
have
all
those
kind
of
things
the
opportunity
we
had
in
the
budget
at
this
point
in
time
and
while
that
may
not
be
the
final
answer,
at
least
it
is
something
to
try
and
go
forward,
was
to
purchase
an
asset
that
would
work
for
16
and
then
try
and
figure
out
how
to
move
once
I
get
more
data
working
with
the
fire
staff
is.
How
do
we
move
from
peak
to
full-time
the
number
that
I
was
given
to
put
a
unit
in
and
staff
it
with?
Eight
personnel
was
1.1
million.
L
Obviously
we
had
an
opportunity
to
not
do
that
and
put
it
in
the
budget
adjustment.
So
what
the
recommendation
was
is
to
buy
the
asset,
buy
the
rescue
car
and
then
stop
it
with
this
peak
analysis
that
would
serve
the
community
until
such
time
we
could
put
a
permanent
asset
and
not
to
mention
the
the
review
of
station
10
and
whatever
kind
of
retrofits
or
updates
that
station
10
needs.
L
But
in
the
mean
time
we
knew
that
16,
as
you
heard
earlier
from
the
fire
unit,
could
house
the
unit,
but
there's
still
more
work
to
be
done.
This
is
not
by
any
means
the
final
answer.
This
is
the
beginning
of
trying
to
accommodate,
to
make
sure
that
East
Tampa
has
the
right
level
of
service
and
make
sure
that
they
get
the
response
times
that
are
warranted.
A
B
L
I
mean
I
heard
the
Union
counter
today
that
the
personnel
are
in
place.
That's
a
conversation,
I
need
to
have
with
the
fire
staff
and
and
try
and
understand,
because
to
the
point
is
we
want
to
do
things
efficiently
and
effectively,
which
means
we
want
to
deliver
the
right
service.
We
want
to
do
it
for
the
best
value
and
at
the
same
time
we
want
to
make
sure
the
entire
city
is
getting
the
same.
Equitable
outcomes
at
everybody
else's
I
was
a
stickler
with
that
in
the
crime.
L
B
Obviously
you
got
to
look
at
the
costs
and
and
and
that
sort
of
thing
and
and
maybe
it's
a
two
or
three
year
plan
to
you-
know
to
get
there
because
nothing
happens
overnight,
especially
when
it's
a
big
budget
item,
but
not
looking
for
any
commitment
mores,
but
just
the
commitment
that
that
master
plan
was
gonna.
Take
a
serious
look
at
what
counseling
duties
and
chairman
Vieira
have
spoken
to.
L
And
I
think
the
genesis
of
the
concept
of
the
master
plan
was
just
that
it
was
not
to
put
study
money
in
a
vacuum
for
one
thing,
but
to
look
comprehensively
because
what
tends
to
happen
is
the
study.
Money
goes
in
and
then
other
things
happen,
the
economy
changes.
We
have
a
responsibility,
as
it
said
across
the
board,
to
take
care
of
our
youth,
our
elderly
and
everybody
in
the
middle,
as
well
as
making
sure
all
that
we
have
that
inclusive
recreation.
L
We
have
all
the
things,
including
dog
parks
and
all
of
those
things
need
to
be
studied
comprehensively.
But
I
think
to
the
point
that
I'm
hearing
is
the
things
that
have
been
come
up
over
and
over
again,
you
know
whatever
they
need
in
East
Tampa,
whatever
they
need
in
North
Tampa
Westham.
The
bottom
line
is,
it
needs
to
be
looking
at
comprehensively
and
this
money
was
increased
as
opposed
to
being
spotty
to
make
sure
that
that
was
done.
I
want
to
add
to
that,
is
you
know
it's
it's
been
conveyed.
L
We
know
it's
coming,
there's
other
funding
opportunities
out
there
than
than
what's
currently
in
the
budget.
We
have
a
Super
Bowl
coming.
I've
worked
the
last
several
of
them.
I
know
how
that
works.
I
know
what
it
infuses
in
the
community,
all
those
things
get
a
chance
to
be
mapped
into
the
plan
and
I'm.
My
hope
is
that
it
doesn't
take
that
long
that
we
actually
get
hit
the
ground
running
and
start
doing
things
I've
been
on
the
phone
with
the
parks
director
about
these
very
things
in
all
the
categories
were
talking.
B
You
know
we
were
working
pretty
well
for
a
couple
days
until
the
hurricane
threatened
all
of
a
sudden
mr.
Bennett's
working
15
hours
a
day
on
his
hurricane
prep
and
and
and
I
didn't
bother
him
with
this
issue,
because,
obviously
it's
minor
in
comparison,
but
now
we're
here.
We
are
today
I'm
willing
to
vote
on
this.
The
budget,
as
proposed
I,
think
it's
fair,
I,
think
it's
fair.
What
he's
suggested
to
you
and
the
mr.
chairman
about
your
issues,
because
we're
just
starting
out
we're
all
just
starting
out
we're
three
months
into
this.
B
F
B
A
H
Staff
I
expect
respect
your
comp,
your
comments
and
then
you've
always
been
a
fair
man
and
I
had
to
go
back
to
my
office
and
sit
down
and
think
about
what
I
said.
The
comments
I
said
and
as
I
got
up,
I
made
up
a
couple
of
phone
calls
just
looking
to
some
Rock
constituents
and
asked
for
their
watching.
They
say
we're
watching
and
I
said
my
mind
is
puzzled
right
now,
because
you
know
this
black
pig,
we're
always
are
made
promises.
H
We
made
promises
all
the
time
it
hurts
so
bad.
When
I
hear
we're
gonna
do
it
and
then
we
come
back
well.
It
didn't
work
out
that,
well,
the
money
felt
shorter
and
I'm
not
saying
I.
Don't
trust
the
administration.
I
wanna
be
clear
on
that,
but
as
a
black
man,
who's
been
let
down
before
because
of
promises.
H
And
it
bothers
me
that
I
just
can't
get
something:
I
can't
even
get
the
damn
rescue
car
full
time,
I
gotta
fight
for
a
rescue
call.
Okay,
you
want
art
we
want
to
intact
for
about
the
park
for
the
kids
and
the
seniors
who
all
they
want
to
do
is
go
out
and
and
have
a
good
time
there's
the
other.
There
are
the
funding
sources
already
yep,
like
four
company
block
grants,
I
asked
on
something
to
send
me
a
list
of
I
haven't
got
to
get
understand
me
much
funnier.
You
know
we
are
this
money.
H
Just
think
it's
unfair,
it's
unfair
and
this
council
knows
that's
why
you
hear
what
they're
saying,
because
they
know
it
it's
unfair
and
unrealistic
to
say
we
can't
do
not
a
dang
thing
for
five
I
got
other
areas
in
five
that
certain
people
asked
for
things.
It
we
make
a
car.
Might
we
find
a
way
I
go
to
Temple
Heights.
We
find
the
way
I
get
a
CRA
to
make
that
area
boom
for
certain
people.
We
find
a
way
damn
it.
I
want
to
find
the
way
for
the
middle
core
find
a
way.
H
A
You,
sir
and
Councilman
Carlson,
you
know
I'll
say
something
that
councilman
ding
felled
her
and
building
on
what
councilman
gute
said.
I
know
if
we
go
forward
here
today,
especially
with
the
with
the
master
plan,
I,
think
that
we
would
be
stepping
out
in
faith.
You
know
to
look
at
next
year
and
with
reasonable,
very
reasonable
expectations
that
the
things
that
we're
compromising
on
today,
prospectively
compromising
on
today,
will
be
there.
A
We
all
know
that
it's
been
demonstrated
tonight
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
in
this
week
with
regards
to
public
safety
issues
and
the
end,
the
additional
investments
that
councilman
gutes
has
fought
for
and
been
able
to
move
the
needle
on
that
issue.
I
think
we
should
all
be
proud
of
that,
and
that's
certainly
true
with
regards
to
recreational
activities
for
families,
seniors,
etc,
etc.
That's
certainly
something
that
if
we
were
to
go
forward
here
tonight,
we
would
be
stepping
out
in
good
faith.
A
You
know:
we've
had
a
lot
of
private
discussions
on
a
lot
of
the
concerns
that
I
had
some
of
the
issues.
With
regards
to
a
Copeland,
Park
Takoma
Park
we've
been
able
to
have
some
good
resolutions
on
some
other
issues.
We've
continued
until
next
year
and
again,
that's
stepping
out
in
good
faith
and
also
something
that
councilman
Dean
Felder
said
and
I
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
say
this.
It
doesn't
have
necessarily
to
do
with
a
budget,
but
it
was
the
fact
that
that
you,
mr.
Bennett,
have
had
trial
by
fire.
A
So
to
speak,
you
come
on
when
the
hurricane
comes,
and
now
this
issue,
and
so
with
that's,
certainly
something
that
we
recognize
so
just
for
whatever
that
counts
week.
We
appreciate
that.
But
again,
if
we
go
forward
here
tonight
with
this
master
plan,
we're
thinking
of
a
master
plan
and
it's
stepping
out
in
good
faith
and
I,
certainly
think
that's
something
that's
important
to
know.
If
we
were
to
anyone
else.
L
A
F
D
I'm,
sorry,
I'm,
sorry,
and
if
we
can
just
just
have
a
to
begin
with
a
motion
just
to
adopt
the
military
and
then
we'll
go
to
any
all
right.
So
we'll
do
it
as
two
motions,
please
I
gotta
find
it
first
actually
just
requires
I
move.
F
A
A
A
Thank
you
okay,
there.
After
we
do
a
motion
to
vote
on
ordinance
or
first
reading
and
I
believe
councilman
Miranda
would
do
that
in
any
questions
before
we
move
forward.
I
want
to
make
sure
we're
gonna
be
doing
the
ordinance
and
first
reading
I.
Do
that
respect
to
my
colleagues
here.
Anybody
else
have
any
motions.
Any
comments
before.
H
A
I
D
If
counsel
wanted
to
have
that
done
by
the
adoption
of
the
budget,
rather
that
have
the
a
post
adoption
budget
resolution
recommended
by
the
mayor
based
on
the
conversations
would
that
have
to
be
done
or
should
that
have
to
be
done
by
motion
tonight?
In
other
words,
to
come
back
and
second
reading
of
thoutmes
councils,
pleasure,
I'm.
D
Council
wanted
this
is
a
recommended
budget
by
the
mayor.
The
mayor
proposes
the
budget
recommends
it
per
the
Charter.
It
is
now
council's
decision
to
choose
whether
to
adopt
it
tonight
and
were
make
amendments
to
it
if
it
so
chooses.
Whether
that
is
a
policy
decision
is
up
to
Council.
The
question:
is
they
legally
can
do
that
tonight?
If
that's
their
pleasure,
would
you
agree?
That's
correct,
okay,
but
the
mechanism
to
do
that
would
require
a
resolution
or
a
change
to
the
budget
to
be
brought
back
at
second
reading
if
it
were
to
pass.
If.
I
I
What
you
have
to
be
doing
is
asking
them
to
go
back
tonight
and
make
those
changes
to
bring
back
to
you
on
second
reading
two
options
that
you
have
really
one
of
them
is:
if
they're,
not
major
changes,
they
can
be
made
between
the
first
and
second
reading.
If
they're
major
changes
you'd
have
to
make
those
recommendations
tonight.
I
The
other
thing
that
you
have
you
can
do
is
when
we
talked
about
earlier,
is
that
if
you
get
a
commitment
from
the
administration
that,
if
these
motions
are
made
that
they
will
follow
through
on
them,
then
there's
no
need
to
change
this
budget.
Of
course,
the
administration
would
then
come
back
in
October
on
the
first
reading
on
the
first
meeting
that
you
have
in
October
and
propose
those
budget
changes
and.
D
D
K
D
If
I
understand
what
your
intent
is
normally
what's
been
done
in
the
past,
is
it's
actually
a
two-fold
process?
Number
one
is
if
you're
asking
for
money
to
be
added
from
the
budget.
Normally
it's
been
the
administration's
position.
That
counsel
would
have
to
make
the
decision
of
what
the
funding
source
would
be.
As
part
of
the
motion
is
that
that's
the
way
we've
done
in
the
past.
Mr.
Turino.
I
A
In
if
I
may,
sir,
so
now
that
we've
approved
the
millage
rate,
in
other
words,
we
are
within
a
I,
don't
want
straitjacket
whatever,
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
we're
within
a
pant
size,
but.
A
H
C
D
D
G
Won't
answer
your
question:
it
would,
if
approved,
amend
or
revise
the
submitted
capital
improvement
program
and
answered
your
question.
Council
know
there
has
not
been
a
design
or
anything
like
that.
Yet
you
heard
the
chief
of
staff
say
we
anticipate
the
needs
of
the
entire
community
will
be
incorporated
as
part
of
that
master
plan
and
I
would
I
would
guess
that
a
potential
community
center
in
Albarn's
would
be
part
of
that
master
plan.
C
G
Policy
is
20%.
Okay,
we
have
submitted
a
recommended
budget
that
maintains
it
and
I'm
gonna
come
back
to
that
word,
maintain
maintains
it
at
23%.
In
a
nutshell,
you
want
to
maintain
and
in
an
ideal
world
actually
increase
it
to
maintain
and
maybe
improve
our
credit
ratings
and
the
reason
I
keep
saying
maintain
is
further
to
our
discussion.
Earlier.
Just
two
years
ago,
our
general
fund
balance
was
96
million
dollars
and
23%.
G
You've
you've
received
a
submitted
budget
that,
as
you've
heard,
is
a
hundred
and
six
million
dollars,
ten
more
million
dollars
in
yet
the
percentage
is
still
23%
because
the
percentage
is
always
based
on
our
expenditures
and
as
our
budget
and
expenditures
go
up,
the
money
required
to
maintain
that
percentage
goes
up.
So
we've
added
10
million
dollars,
but
from
the
credit
ratings
perspective,
we've
merely
maintained
our
financial
strength.
Just
something
to
consider.
F
Me
ask
the
questions
that
you
mentioned
credit
rating.
What,
if
any
effect,
would,
in
your
opinion
and
I,
know
you're
not
in
charge
of
giving
us
a
credit
rating
due
to
the
credit
rating
of
the
city
of
tap
I
know
we
for
two
or
three
years
did
extraordinary
to
get
it
where's
that
today
it
was,
and
then
it
we
had
from
oh
wait
on.
We
had
falling
and
all
of
us
suffered
the
whole.
The
whole
country
suffer
yes,
sir,
not
only
the
city
of
Tampa.
So
how
do
the
Raiders
rate
credit
raters.
F
G
Yes,
sir,
in
simplest
terms,
we
risk
and
I
would
bet
we
guarantee
that
the
interest
payments
on
any
debt
we
incur
will
go
up,
it'll
be
based
primarily
frankly
on
two
things:
the
funding
source
and
and
why
we're
incurring
the
debt?
We
have
any
number
of
debt
issuances
that
have
really
really
good
credit
ratings,
and
then
we
have
an
issuer
credit
rating
which
basically
speaks
to
your
capability
and
willingness
to
pay
your
financial
obligations.
G
A
Sir
other
comments
questions
you
know
my
my
big
challenge
is
when
it
comes
to
the
2
million
dollars,
that's
being
sought.
Having
some
sort
of,
let
me
ask
you
that
this
master
plan
does
that
create
a
design
for
this,
or
is
the
design
still
not
a
location,
a
design,
the
traditional
avenues
that
we
look
at
for
developments
of
parts?
Few.
G
Things
that
could
happen
will
take
the
results
of
that
master
plan,
which
again,
ideally,
will
tell
us
what
and
where
we
need
community-wide
and
then
we'll
identify
the
projects
that
come
from
that
master
plan
and
identify
funding
sources
for
both
the
design
and
construction
of
any
of
those
projects.
Okay,
so
the
master
plan
will
simply
give
us
some
great
information
and
great
data
as
to
what
the
needs
are
in
the
community.
H
That's
that's
a
I
know.
The
CFO
was
giving
a
good
argument,
but
in
real
time
real
money,
two
million
dollars-
ain't
ain't,
5
million,
6
million
ain't.
Anybody
kicking
the
bucket
forest
design.
You've
been
asking
for
designs
for
many
many
years
and
I
continue.
No,
we
there
is
funding,
there's
funny
in
his
current
budget
and
there's
funding
a
CRA
that
has
close
to
almost
going
be
almost
close
to
6
million
of
them.
So
I
don't
see
a
shortfall
there.
I
don't
see.
H
If
something
came
up,
it's
it
doesn't
an
expense,
there's,
no
way
that
celery
will
not
put
that
extra
extra
dollar
amount
to
help
fund
the
project.
So,
as
far
as
the
design
phase,
if
you
got
upfront
money,
you
got
fun
to
get
money
to
build.
You
can
build
any
kind
of
dine
you
want.
So
for
me,
that's
that's
not
a
big
argument
for
me:
there's
money
and
through
or
three
different
sources
that
we
can
get
phone
to
get
this
project
moving.
C
A
A
K
Please
my
my
number
one
goal
in
the
budget
was
to
increase
the
reserve.
I
think
it
was
irresponsible,
the
way
it
was
burned
down
and
the
recession
in
in
2009,
and
we
didn't
stop
pulling
from
it
until
2014,
but
keeping
the
percentage
at
at
23%
is
I.
Think
a
great
achievement
by
this
mayor
and
and
and
mr.
Harrow
and
and
the
staff.
The
only
thing
that
would
convince
me
not
to
put
the
money
in
is
East,
Tampa
I
think
it's
reprehensible.
K
The
way
East
Tampa
in
the
African
American
community
were
treated
in
the
last
eight
years.
I
personally
heard
lots
and
lots
of
stories.
We
gave
an
award
to
someone
a
couple
weeks
ago,
who
was
personally
treated
very
badly,
and
we
need
to
do
something
to
to
change
that
and
I
hope
that
we'll
do
it
through
the
CRA
and
whatever
other
vehicles
we
have
I
wish
it
wasn't.
2
million
I
wish
there
was
some
other
way
that
we
could
to
it
besides.
K
Giving
the
full
two
million,
but
short
of
you
coming
out
with
a
lower
amount
I
would
I
would
support
this.
Only
because
I
think
we
need
to
change
the
way
the
city
treats
East
Tampa
african-american
community.
We
can't
we
can't
continue
to
ignore
it.
It's
not
just
the
activists
that
show
up
here
every
week
it's
the
average
person
who
just
feels
like
the
city
has
ignore
them,
and
the
truth
is
that
the
city
did
for
eight
years,
I.
A
G
A
A
A
K
G
Don't
know
enough
about
the
CRA
funding
and
the
process.
The
deputy
city
attorney
has
wanted
me
to
clarify
or
suggested
I
clarify
and
I
agree
that
it
would
be
the
CRA
board
that
would
have
to
take
that
action
to
give
the
money.
Of
course,
that's
you
all,
but
under
a
different
guise,
I,
don't
know
if
that
semi
answers
your
question
or
not
certain
I
think.
A
E
H
E
A
C
You
know
I'm
willing
to
compromise
and
using
see
alright
you'll
have
my
support
as
a
CRA
board
member.
You
have
my
support
here
because
it's
you
know
goes
back
to
wants
and
needs
that
community,
like
you,
said,
you're
hungry
and
if
I
think
back
of
you
know
big
things
that
happen
in
East
Hampton
I'm
talking
about
beyond
the
downtown
area
in
Ybor
City,
it's
very
oftentimes
ignored-
and
this
is
our
opportunity
to
make
good
on
that
and
investing
in
that
area.
Councilman
just.
K
One
piece
of
feedback-
I've
gotten
from
these
two
Emmett
community
is
don't
use
this
hearing
money
for
things
the
city
would
pay
for
in
other
in
other
areas.
So
if
this
kind
of
community
center
is
something
that
typically
a
CRA
would
fund,
then
fine,
but
if,
if
folks
in
East
Tampa
see
amenities
being
built
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
but
the
same
amenities
are
not
being
built
in
East,
Tampa
or
maintained
in
East
Ham,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we
maintain
those.
H
A
Let
me
see
if
I
may
say
something
to
that
which
is
we're
dealing
with
a
more
constrained.
Conservative
budget,
therefore,
is
it
applies
this
year.
This
isn't
a
project,
that's
being
done
in
other
areas
of
the
city.
This
isn't.
We
are
willing
to
step
out
I
think
in
an
in
a
I,
don't
want
to
see
unorthodox
fashion,
but
really
willing
to
step
out
in
a
more
conservative
restrained
year.
Where
such
a
compromise
me
mr.
H
Chairman
I
I
respect
your
leadership
again
and
I
and
I
can
compromise
to
the
million
and
we
get
with
these
the
CIO
chairman
and
reference
to
the
other
way,
but
whatever
extra
dollars
that
we
need
for
project,
why
don't
you
don't
go
along
with
it,
but
we
need
to
make
sure
we
get
some
Joe
well
revenue
dollars
for
the
project.
Sure.
E
E
H
I,
don't
think
they
compliment
should
be
a
problem.
If
they
don't
that's
gonna,
be
an
issue
be
honest
with
you.
Mr.
Mitchell
I
think
the
bottom
line
is
we
need
to
get
a
low
ante
up
from
the
city's
portion.
I
believe
that
the
citizens
of
East
Tampa
there's
money
there.
They
want
to
see
something
beautiful,
I,
don't
think.
That's
gonna
be
an
issue.
Sir
Thank.
G
And
yes,
sir
I
was
a
council.
If
I
can
just
clarify
a
few
things
again,
there's
been
no
design.
There's
been
no
cost
estimate
that
I'm
aware
of
associated
with
this
community
center.
So
there's
from
our
perspective
from
a
financial
perspective,
there's
no
basis
for
a
two
million
dollar
figure.
We
simply
don't
know
enough
now.
Secondly,
again
hopefully
I've
explained
the
potential
ramifications
associated
with
reducing
your
fund
balance
from
a
credit
rating
perspective.
G
I
would
also
remind
you,
as
we
forecast
the
future,
we
see
continuing
challenges
ahead
again,
pick
up
the
paper
watch,
the
TV
and,
depending
on
what
time
it
is,
the
economy
is
doing
great
or
the
economy
is
not
doing
great.
My
point
is,
you
will
recall
our
discussion
about
shoring
up
the
reserves
in
the
past
and
dipping
into
them
to
get
us
through.
The
Great
Recession
would
remind
council
that,
in
our
opinion,
challenges
remain
from
financial
perspective
ahead
of
us.
A
If
I
may
comment
towards
that,
that
is
one
concern
that
I
have,
which
is
that
any
get
it
and
I'm
and
I'm.
You
know
willing
to
go
on
board
with
this,
but
a
big
concern
that
I
have
is
that
we
don't
have
design
for
this,
that
there's
no
land
where
this
would
be
placed
on
it.
We
have
an
aspiration,
a
great
aspiration
that
I
think
we
can
get
behind,
but
part
of
that
two
million.
If
this
thing
goes
through,
would
have
to
go
to
design,
correct
prediction.
A
H
H
Again,
I,
don't
you
know
I'm
just
gonna
say
a
word
hogwash
man,
I,
don't
I,
don't
believe
that
I
mean
dollars
is
nothing
to
a
billion
dollar
budget.
I!
Don't
care
how
you
look
at
it.
A
million
dollars
is
nothing.
You're
gonna
give
me
a
fire
in
a
fire
truck
and
$600,000.
You
telling
me
a
million
bucks
come
on.
Let's
get
real,
let's
get
really
real.
You
I,
don't
believe
that
one
one
iota
and
I've
just
got
to
say
that
it's
unrealistic
to
even
say
that
I
earn
six
fifteen
dollars.
H
They
take
a
million
out
of
that.
That's
gonna
kill
our
rating.
No
sir
I'm
gonna
kill
our
rating
I.
Don't
believe
that
and
nobody
any
fine
that
you
wish
would
say
that
that
I
mean
no,
that's,
not
gonna
kill
her
ready.
So
I
stand
this
past.
We
have
a
big
old,
huge
park
out
there.
That's
dormant
anybody
going
on
that!
H
Center
can
go
on
you
know
and
and
and
I
know,
for
a
fact
what
the
East
Tennessee
already
has
in
their
in
their
in
their
coffers,
and
we
gave
a
million
dollars
they
kept
to
fund
the
rest.
That's
what
this
that's,
what
the
community
wanted
they've
been
asking
for:
it
I,
don't
care
hearing
about
no
design
whatever
or
phase
to
get
it
done.
If
there's
money
and
both
those
funds,
it
can
be
built
period.
D
H
H
B
K
K
H
D
A
I
Sall
through
the
legal
department
between
the
first
and
second
reading,
they'll
bring
the
budget
change
back
to
you,
or
they
can
come
back
with
a
resolution.
That'll
come
to
you,
after
into
the
October
meeting,
depending
on
how
you
want
to
do
it,
how
the
administration,
if
the
administration
says
they
will
change
the
budget
after
the
budget
is
approved,
and
you
take
them
at
that
word
which
they've
always
have
in
the
past.
You
can
do
it
that
way
or
they'll
have
to
make
a
change
in
the
budget
that
comes
back
to
you
for
second
reading
and.
A
A
L
Can
I
get
a
clarifying
question,
I
understand
what
was
motion
and
what
was
voted
on,
but
is
it
and
I
heard
the
clarification
or
the
specificity
on
the
reserves,
but
is
it
the
source
of
the
funding
or
the
the
funding
that's
recommended
and
my
point
being
to
what
I
talked
about
earlier?
Is
you
know,
there's
a
CRA
there's
a
CRA
strategic
plan,
of
course,
for
each
community
and
I
respect
that
pot
of
money
and
how
that
process
works.
But
if
just
using
the
target
of
two
million
dollars,
is
it
really
matter
the
source?
L
As
long
as
we
reach
the
goal
between
the
design
and
build
and
the
reason
I'm
saying
that
is,
if
the
reserves
you
know,
seem
to
be
in
jeopardy
as
reviewed
by
the
administration,
is
there
a
different
funding
source,
that's
eligible
to
reach
the
goal?
So,
if
I'm,
making
myself
clear,
does
it
matter
what
the
funding
sources
and
I'll
just
be
explanatory?
Could
it
be
a
grant?
Could
it
be
come
from
the
NFL
Super
Bowl
money?
Could
it
come
from?
Is
it
the
target
or
is
it
the
funding
source?
That's
on
the
table,
yeah.
K
Yeah
I
think
I
would
suggest
that
we
exclude
the
series,
because
that's
a
separate
body
that
would
make
a
separate
decision
and
we're
looking
at
grant
money
from
there.
But
if
the
administration
goes
back
and
sharpens
the
pencil
figures
out,
where
else
the
money
would
come
from
and
moving
things
around
well,
should
we
make
it
an
amendment
to
our
amendment
mm-hmm.
B
B
What
I
would
suggest
is,
let's
say
a
month
from
now
when
the
dust
settles,
if
there's
a
better
idea
from
Dennis
and
his
gang
just
come
back
to
us
with
a
budget
amendment,
because
you
every
every
single
agenda
has
budget
amendments
and
you
guys
and
you
guys
could
say:
look
we
don't
think.
That's
the
best
place
and
I.
B
Don't
think
the
maker
of
the
motion
really
cared
where
the
money
come
from
necessarily,
but
it
could
be
in
the
form
of
the
budget
amendment
as
opposed
to
trying
to
wrestle
with
that
tonight,
because
I
don't
know
that
we
can
I,
don't
think
we
can
lose
it
leave
it
loose
in
the
air.
All
right,
I
think
it's
a
little
riskier
to
leave
it
loose
in
the
air
and
just
save
you
guys
find
the
money
over
the
next
two
weeks.
B
L
I
appreciate
that
feedback
I,
just
in
the
spirit
of
the
conversation
I,
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
administration
respects
the
fact.
Hence
the
$400,000
for
this
study
is
that
we
want
to
make
sure
we
apply
equity
in
opportunity,
efficiency
and
effectiveness
and
the
deliverables
citywide,
and
if
that
lands
in
Albarn's
Park,
then
that's
fantastic.
L
The
funding
source
to
me
to
reach
the
goal
is
part
of
our
responsibility
and
leadership,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
sustain
the
reserves
but
yet
meet
the
goals
of
the
community,
and
that's
all
I'm
suggesting
is
that
if
we
find
an
alternative
funding
source
to
meet
those
goals
in
the
in
the
right
communities
at
the
right
spot
at
the
right
time.
For
the
right
programming
is
council
philosophically
agreeable
that
whatever
the
funding
source
is
to
reach,
the
goal
is
free
of
all.
D
I
K
I'm
I'm
very
happy
that
the
administrators
and
the
mayor
focused
on
the
reserves.
I
think
it's
very
important
to
do
that.
So
if
we
can
provide
any
flexibility,
I,
don't
know
how
we
would
word
it,
but
I
think
we
would
exclude
CRA
but
I,
don't
know
I'm
making
up
these
words,
but
we
said
if
we
minute
it
to
say
that
we
propose
that
it
would
come
from
the
money
intended
to
increase
the
general
fund
reserve.
H
A
I
mean
and
and
if
I
may
I
mean
technically,
we
could
have
$350,000
from
the
reserve
and
and
some
additional
funds
from
other
sources.
I'm
sure
that
you
know
I
speak
for
myself,
which
is
that
certainly
we've
had
discussions
on
like
I,
said
issues
like
the
Como,
Park,
Copeland,
Park,
etc,
etc.
I
would
trust
it
would
come
from
those
funds,
obviously,
but
whenever
it
comes
to
other
issues,
certainly
we
can.
You
know,
have
a
discussion
on
that.
If.
L
I
could
make
one
capstone.
Hopefully
a
capstone
comment
is
providing
flexibility.
You
know
the
administration,
who
is
not
gonna,
recommend
$400,000
to
come
back
and
not
look
for
funding
to
facilitate
those
outcomes,
and
that's
the
spirit
of
I
think
what
we're
and
what
we're
advising
is
that
you
know
once
the
studies
are
done,
then
you
want
to
put
those
into
action.
I
mean.
L
Why
would
you
want
to
spend
$400,000
if
you
work
in
a
break
ground,
and
so
the
idea
of
looking
for
funding
of
where
the
right
spot
is
to
break
ground
balance,
the
programs
and
all
those
things
you
know?
That's
the
intent
of
the
$400,000
I
think
what
I'm
trying
to
propose
is
to
make
sure
that
whatever
funding
source,
we're
looking
for
to
break
ground
in
whatever
a
community?
Is
that
there's
flexibility
to
do
that
to
get
the
right
outcome,
citywide,
which
goes
back
to
that
equity
aspect,
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity
to
thrive?
H
Good
for
whatever
funny
sauce
income
for
that
million
dollars
for
Alan
parks,
I'm
good
with
that
that
4,000,
whatever
needs
to
come
from
that
your
study
I'm
good
with
that
too.
But
that
million
that
I
want
for
our
Barnes.
It
can
come
where
you
can
find
it,
but
it
doesn't
come
reserve,
there's
a
better
source
that
you
have
limits,
cause.
C
K
D
H
D
K
H
E
K
K
City
only
bring
up
CRA
because
he
mentioned,
and
so
that
that
first
million
dollars
would
not
come
from
this
year.
I
may
be
a
matching
million
dollars,
but
the
but
the
first
million
dollars
would
not,
and
do
we
need
to
recommend
that
that
that
that
do
we
need
to
say
that
we
recommend
that
it
come
from
a
specific
source,
because
I
think
that
language
came
from
your
recommendation
to
make
it.
K
D
E
H
Last
and
final
for
me
for
the
night,
reverence
to
the
Fire
Rescue
cart
in
these
Tampa
again
I
I'm,
one
more
that
we
tried
to
make
some
concessions,
but
we
didn't
cross
the
finish
line.
I
think
we
can
get
there.
The
fire
department's
talked
about
that
chief
of
staff
said
he's
gonna,
look
into
that.
So
I
hope
that
the
administration
will
now
go
back
and
look
in
that
look
into
that
before
our
second
reading
that
we
can
look
at
making
that
cart
a
full
time,
cart
in
his
Tampa,
so
I'm
leery.
L
No
I'm
100%
committed
to
going
back
and
look
at
it.
I
mean
you
know.
What
I've
heard
tonight
is
is
that
the
level
of
staffing
is
in
place
and
if
that's
ultimately
going
to
save
the
city
money
and
provide
a
level
of
service,
that's
the
right
thing
to
do,
but
in
the
meantime
the
spirit
of
what
was
offered
in
the
memorandum
was
to
make
sure
we're
moving
the
needle
forward
to
make
sure
the
level
of
service
is
meeting
the
requirements
and
not
impact
the
budget
to
any
great
severity
pending
a
full-time
asset.
L
H
A
E
Would
like
to
make
a
motion
in
mine
is
miniscule
or
I
feel
like
the
woman
and
it's
a
good
life
asking
for
seven
dollars
and
fifty
cents
is
the
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars
for
the
funding
of
TVA
from
any
source
possible
that
that
funding
be
included
in
the
budget
for
a
hundred
and
eight
thousand
dollars.
Okay,.
A
Any
discussion,
okay,
I'll
say
from
my
own
of
you
I'm,
going
to
vote
the
same
way
I
did
before
I
guess
it
was
last
Thursday
when
we
voted
on
this,
and
my
reason
will
be
that
you
know
I,
don't
mind
going
back
for
more
money
for
things
like,
for
example,
the
administration
and
I
have
had
a
very,
very
long
dialogue
over
the
last
week
for
basic
improvements.
I
could
show
you
all
the
pictures
of
of
the
upgrades
that
I've
requested
for
Takoma
Park
for
Copeland
Park.
A
You
have
a
boardwalk
out
there
that
is
literally
sunken
and
we're
gonna
be
working
on
that
in
this
budget.
Takoma
Park
a
park
near
Busch
Boulevard
that
needs
a
lot
of
TLC
and
we're
gonna
get
some
TLC
in
this
budget,
I'm
very,
very
happy
with
that
I'm
willing
to
fight
for
councilman
Goods
projects
in
his
district,
which
are
our
real
real
needs
and
I'm
proud
to
fight
for
that.
A
A
A
E
E
D
My
understanding,
yes,
if
I
may
clarify,
then,
is
that
council's
decision
relative
to
making
sure
it's
passed
the
second
reading
or
having
an
affirmation
from
the
administration
as
to
whether
that
would
be
acceptable
to
have
it
post
budget
adoption
to
come
back,
would
that
be
able
to
be
resolved
by
the
second
reading
publication.
Yes,
thank.
A
F
E
A
E
A
I
They
were
both
done
at
the
same
time.
That
was
the
intention
that
you
did
both
at
the
same
time.
So
this
will
happen
next
time.
You
come
back
on
the
17th
you'll,
be
voting
on
the
second
here
with
the
second
reading
on
the
row
that
the
ordinance
and
you'll
also
be
taking
up
the
resolution
for
the
approval
at
that
time,
but
the
public
hearing
covered
both
the
operating
of
the
capital
budget.
Okay,.
I
C
I
I
E
E
B
A
F
A
E
E
C
C
A
H
I
just
want
to
say
from
the
bottom
of
my
heart.
Thank
you
for
this
evening
sure
it
took
a
lot
of
guts
to
do
what
you
did
tonight,
I'm
sure
the
people
of
my
district,
especially
East
Tampa,
watching
the
most
grateful
that
you
kept
your
commitments
and
I'm
glad
that
you
did
too
and
I
just
think
that
you
just
don't
know
how
I
feel
right
now
to
get
this
a
boy
at
the
minute.
Thank
you.
C
B
Response
to
councilman
goods
I
think
he
was
the
one
that
had
the
guts
tonight
and
I'm
proud
of
that
we
could
to
support
it.
It's
the
right
thing
to
do
in
regard
to
a
commendation
I'd
like
to
present
one
to
the
Aquila
Institute,
which
is
celebrating
their
10th
anniversary.
They.
B
This
is
a
sort
of
a
Tampa
Bay
stand
started
organization
that
went
over
to
Rwanda
to
to
create
a
woman's
high
school
and
now
a
college
and
and
now
they're,
going
on
further
to
create
the
davis
davis
university
after
I,
guess
the
Davis
family
and
and
the
wonderful
Cody
Davis.
But
anyway,
Elizabeth
Davis
has
worked
really
hard
with
her
staff
on
the
Achille
Institute
they're
having
a
gala
in
October
and
I'll,
get
you
the
date
it'll
later
at
a
later
time,
I'd
like
to
present
the
commendation
there.
Yes.