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A
C
This
map
is
just
it's
shows
you,
the
Lots,
layouts
and
and
here's
Air
Cargo
Road,
which
was
developed
about
ten
years
ago
as
part
of
the
airport,
expansion,
I.
C
C
C
This
is
South
Avenue,
looking
west
toward
West,
Shore,
Boulevard
and
Cooper
Boulevard
is
within
this
area
that
was
previously
vacated,
and
this
is
south,
looking
toward
which
were
buh-burn
and
again
south
at
West
Shore.
Looking
east
court
air
cover
Road.
So
that's
the
stretch,
16s
to
be
vacated
and
then
run
le
drive
is
a
north-south
street
between
South
and
Osborne,
and
this
is
Rinella
looking
south
himself
Avenue
we're
not
only
looking
north
from
Osborne
and
we're
not
only
looking
north
poie
itself.
So
that's
the
stretch
it's
going
to
be
vacated.
C
This
is
I,
was
born,
looking
east
toward
air
cargo
Road
from
what
Shore
and
I
was
born,
looking
toward
washer
at
Cooper
place,
which
again
that
had
been
previously
vacated,
and
it's
barricaded
in
this
picture.
There's
two
structures
remaining
in
this
area:
the
airport
has
acquired
the
property
and
they
will
be
demolished.
This
is
one
of
them
they're,
both
on
run
le.
So
these
are
now
owned
by
the
airport.
They
won't
all
the
property
about
Ian's
right-of-ways,
and
then
this
is
a
sort
of
what
the
property
looks
like
it's
all
vacant.
C
They
demolished
the
structures
over
the
years.
That's
looking
south
of
Osborne
looking
north
Roloff
born
looking
west
from
Anneli,
so
it's
all
pretty
much
vacant
now,
east
from
Manali
and
north
and
south.
The
airport's
done
a
really
good
job
of
working
with
all
the
utilities.
We
do
need
to
retain
some
easement
for
waste
water,
water,
stormwater
and
pico
peoples.
Gas.
There's
no
objections
to
this
request
from
staff.
B
C
A
A
These
this
petition
to
vacate
is
such
that,
if
we
can
have
the
elmo
please
on
screen
is
being
done
so
that
this
facility
can
be
built.
This
is
a
facility
within
which
600
people
will
be
working
once
it
is
complete.
You
may
or
may
not
have
attended
the
the
groundbreaking
ceremony
that
was
that
recently
occurred.
That's
the
governor
and
your
mayor
and
our
mayor
and
other
people
that
groundbreaking,
but
the
the
two
streets,
two
of
the
three
streets
that
are
being
vacated,
are
in
this
location.
A
That
is
the
area
of
the
facility
that
will
be
built.
The
CAE
facility
that
mr.
sensors,
here
representing
you,
see
on
the
west
side,
that's
West,
Shore
Boulevard
and
on
the
east
side,
that's
Air,
Cargo
Road
this
facility,
this
this
whole
area
kind
of
bigger
picture,
the
the
whole.
This
goes
to
your
question.
Mr.
Carson.
This
is
an
excerpt
from
the
from
the
master
plan
that
was
approved
by
the
airport,
the
three
the
three
red
streets.
A
You
see,
there
are
the
streets
that
are
before
you
today
to
be
vacated,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
East
development
area
extends
from
Hillsboro
in
the
north,
the
tampa
bay
boulevard
in
the
sole
and
then
this
is
Air
Cargo
Road
and
former
West
Shore
as
part
of
the
master
plan
for
the
airport.
All
of
that
east
development
here
that
build
repair
area
that
has
been
acquired
over
many
decades,
the
last
two
pieces
of
property
within
which
were
just
acquired
in
July.
This
is
all
going
to
be
used
by
a
large
footprint
airport
related
development.
A
The
CAE
project
is
one
such
project,
so
there
are
others
that
are
that
are
queued
up
and
are
going
through
permitting
so
just
eliminating
the
streets
and
allowing
for
large
footprint
developments
within
the
east
development
area
is.
What
is
why
we
are
doing
this
now
understand
that
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
work
that
has
gone
into
this,
for
example,
as
one
small
piece
of
it.
The
as
you
can
see
here.
A
This
is
a
recent
decision
for
the
particular
development
that
is
going
to
sit
on
top
of
the
streets
that
we
are
asking
you
to
vacate.
This
is
the
record
of
decision
for
the
environmental
assessment
at
the
federal
level,
so
we
are
coming
to
this
city
to
ask
that
these
be
vacated,
because
there's
no
other
way
for
the
airport
to
build
and
and
to
build
the
east
development
and
its
component
project
without
the
vacating
of
these
trees.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
give
you
an
overall
perspective
before
I
finish.
A
A
Basically,
it's
like
this
within
areas
is,
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
need
real
expertise,
history
and
development
experience
to
deal
with
all
of
the
nuances
without
them
we
couldn't
have
done
this
I
just
really
want
to
extend
a
great
Lord
of
thanks
to
Barbara
and
to
Jimmy,
and
also
to
thank
Julie
Hardy
for
drafting
the
documents.
Any.
B
B
F
B
G
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chairman
I
have
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
first
reading,
consideration
an
ordinance
vacating
closing
discontinuing
and
abandoning
courts,
portions
of
right-of-way
notice,
West
South,
Avenue,
West,
Osborne
Avenue
in
North,
Bernal
e
Drive
and
replant
of
Drew
Park,
a
subdivision
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Hillsborough,
County,
Florida,
the
same
being
more
fully
described
in
section
one:
hero
subject
to
certain
easement
reservations,
covenants
conditions
and
restrictions
more
particularly
set
forth
herein
providing
an
effective
date.
B
F
I
I
Rebecca
Curtis
is
the
attorney
I'm
here
on
this
item,
which
is
a
petition
for
review
for
a
special
use.
Permit
the
review
hearing,
those
before
use
de
novo,
which
means
you
will
be
taking
in
new
evidence.
However,
even
though
you
will
be
taken
in
new
evidence,
you
are
still
limited
by
the
criteria
in
your
code.
I
That
is
the
applicant,
is
here
today
to
ask
you
for
a
waiver
to
one
of
the
criteria
you
will
take
in
the
facts
that
are
presenting
to
you
by
staff
by
the
applicant
and
apply
them
to
the
criteria
that
are
in
your
code
that
I'm
going
to
hand
out
to
you,
so
you
can
look
at
them.
There's
your
general
standards
and
what
you're
looking
to
see
is
whether
or
not
the
application,
as
presented
with
the
waiver,
still
continues
to
meet
your
general
standards.
I
After
the
hearing
is
closed,
you
will
need
to
make
a
motion
to
either
deny
the
special
use
permit
or
to
grant
the
special
use
permit
and
I'm
going
to
provide
samples
of
that
to
you
you
will
you
can
read
the
language
as
written
and
then
add
whatever
facts
you
are
basing
your
decision
on
I'm
going
to
then
turn
it
over
to
mr.
cotton
to
explain
it
to
you.
J
And
Miami
runs
through
here,
so
the
applicant
is
applied
for
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
Seminole
Heights,
but
throughout
this
is
an
accessory
dwelling
unit.
It
could
be
up
to
950
square
feet,
but
it
says
the
maximum
size
of
a
well
have
an
accessory
structure.
This
accessory
structure
was
proposed
at
1252
square
feet.
In
order
to
there
asked
me
to
directly
use
a
setback
from
the
20-foot
in
the
rear.
It
has
to
be
matrix
or
setbacks
to
3
feet,
which
is
a
typical
accessory
structure
setback.
J
In
order
to
do
so
do
so,
you
have
to
get
a
variance.
They
were
granted
a
variance
in
the
AR
C,
as
well
as
they
certificate
of
appropriateness
for
the
construction
and
the
design
of
this
structure.
So
when
they
applied
for
the
accessory
dwelling
unit,
it
comes
to
the
planners
where
staff
has
to
deny
the
request,
because
there's
a
provision
of
the
code
that
says
an
accessory
dwelling
unit
can't
be
placed
into
a
structure.
They
see
they're
non-conforming
or
made
conforming
as
a
result
of
the
variance.
So,
as
a
result,
administrative
leave.
J
We
deny
the
request.
The
applicant
has
a
petitioner
as
an
opportunity
to
appeal
the
City
Council
and
you
can
grant
the
variance
as
part
of
especially
useful
petition.
So
this
is
the
site
plan.
This
is
the
proposed
garage
is
currently
under
construction.
The
required
setback
because
of
the
overall
square
footage
of
the
structure
is
20
feet.
They're,
opposing
to
building
it
3
feet,
just
some
photos.
J
The
top
photo
is
this
is
the
is
the
main
structure,
as
you
can
see
in
the
bottom,
photo
the
accessory
structure
through
the
through
the
coverage
of
the
trees
and
it's
not
overly
visible
from
the
street.
Because
of
that
the
landscaping.
These
photos
were
taken
from
the
alley
itself,
but
you
can
see
the
sex
researchers
two
stories
tall,
it's
about
12
a
little
over
1,200
square
feet,
and
then
these
are
photos
of
the
property
to
the
north
property
to
the
south,
and
just
for
your
for
your
view,
just
this
is
from
the
strange,
the
property.
J
K
Thorough,
as
usual,
why
is
it
half
built
or
3/4?
We.
J
See
the
building
permit
for
it
yeah
they're
in
the
building
permit
process.
That's
what
the
air
see
in
a
sense
when
they
got
that
variance
from
the
AR
C,
as
well
as
the
certificate
of
appropriateness.
They
could
start
construction,
but
they
don't
show
on
their
building
permits.
Yet
and
my
understanding
is
the
actual
kitchen
itself
meeting
the
ability
to
cook
a
stove
in
it.
If
council
overturns
the
denial,
the
Zoning
Administrator,
they're,
gonna,
probably
amend
their
a
building.
Permit,
add
the
kit
add
the
whole
kitchen
in
and
then
commence
with
the
rest
of
the
construction.
D
Kind
of
gentleman
I'm
Peter,
Spanos
I'm,
one
of
the
owners
of
the
property
in
question
when
we
went
before
the
AR
see.
First
of
all,
the
one
comment
that
I'd
like
to
make
clarify
with
all
of
you
is
our
home,
is
situated
on
two
buildable
Lots.
Our
home
is
on
one
build
of
a
lot
the
lot
next
door,
where
you
see
where
we
built
this
structure
for
a
start
building
the
structure
is
a
second
full
buildable
lot.
D
D
The
overall
lot
itself
taken
into
consideration,
both
the
house
and
the
the
overall
property
that
this
structure
was
proportionate
to
the
size
of
the
lot,
so
I'm
a
little
confused
as
to
why
we're
here
and
why
we've
now
this
is
becoming
an
issue
when
we
applied
for
the
building
permit,
we
followed
the
instructions
of
the
city,
they
said.
If
you
want
to
get
started
sooner
than
later,
remove
the
kitchen
apply
for
a
special
user
later
start
the
construction.
D
So
you
can
get
started
on
this
project
and
then
apply
am
I
correct
on
that
and
I'm
sorry.
This
is
our
contractor,
so
I
wasn't
involved
in
all
these
specifics.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I
was
repeating
that
correctly.
My
understanding
was
that
we
were.
We
were
instructed
by
the
city
to
remove
the
kitchen
from
the
plan,
get
started
to
get
the
building
permit
and
then
add
the
kitchen
in
at
a
later
date.
D
So
that's
those
were
the
instructions
that
we
followed
from
the
city
and
now
all
the
sudden
were
here
and
to
your
question,
sir,
but
why
it's
half
built
we
started.
We
started
this
process
back
in
November
of
last
year,
and
so
we
had
poured
the
foundation
and
started
the
first
story
of
this.
We
were
approved
by
the
AR,
see
in
May.
We
got
a
building
permit
in
July
and
then
we
didn't
get
the
letter
from
from
cotton
until
mid-august.
By
that
point
we
had
already
started
the
foundation
if
it
poured.
D
E
From
the
beginning,
we
spoke
with
the
we
had
probably
15
meetings
with
the
city,
the
employees
of
the
city,
and
they
told
us
we
could
build
950
feet.
It
should
be
a
footprint
on
the
on
their
property,
so
we
designed
it
as
that,
would
they
have
another
small
storage
unit,
and
so
we
made
sure
everything
was
confined
to
950
square
feet
of
footprint
with
a
16
600
square
foot
apartment,
and
we
made
sure
our
engineer
drew
those
plans
to
the
specific
as
to
what
the
city
told
us.
E
So
this
accessory
accessory
dwelling
unit
is
actually
only
600
square
feet.
The
950
square
feet
is
including
a
garage,
so
all
they're
trying
to
rent
out
is
600
square
feet.
They're,
not
renting
out
the
entire
garage
they're
going
to
be
parking
their
vehicles
in
the
garage.
So
once
again
we're
a
little
I.
Think
the
the
code
is
a
little
vague
on
what
what
is
what
they're,
gonna
rent
out
come
yeah.
D
E
You
says:
look
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
AR
C
was
open
to
approving
this
variance
was
because
of
how
quickly
Tampa
is
growing
and
how
the
shortage
and
affordable
housing
and
rentals
is
becoming
an
issue
and
will
become
a
bigger
issue
and
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
take
into
consideration.
When
you
guys
vote,
you
know
without
a
usable
kitchen,
all
they
can
do
and
and
they
will
be
able
to
rent
this
space.
But
it's
not
with
you
know
a
usable
kitchen,
anything
to
be
able
to
cook
your
food.
J
The
if
they
were
just
put
the
property,
the
accessory
dwelling
unit
becomes
a
primary
use
of
the
property,
so
a
new
house
can
be
built
unless
they
get
especially
used
for
either
the
one
in
the
back
or
the
one
on
the
front.
Currently
I
do
want
to
clarify
on
the
letter
that
was
issued
by
staff.
We
distinct
that
we
have
a
distinction
between
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
an
accessory
structure.
J
E
J
Eric
on
planning
in
development
is
still
considered
one
zoning
lot
until
they
go
through
a
process
and
actually
separate
out
with
a
separate
phone
number
separate
deeds,
and
all
it's
considered
one
zoning
line.
That's
what
the
need
for
the
accessory
going
me,
though,
was
that's.
What
I
went
through.
D
Au
Pitre
Spanos.
We
lived
in
this
property
for
thirty
years
up
until
very
recently.
This
separate
lot
had
it
separate
and
had
his
own
address.
It
was
somewhere
within
the
last
two
years
or
so
that
the
city
deemed
it
appropriate
to
create
a
and
make
it
one
lot,
and
the
only
way
that
that
became
knowledge
to
me
is
when
we
started
going
through
this
process
and
oh
no,
no,
it's
one
large
lot.
I
said
budget.
The
the
lot
next
door
to
us
was
always
a
separate
build
of
a
lot.
F
D
D
As
far
as
than
two
minutes,
as
far
as
the
variance
is
concerned,
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
point.
All
the
buildings,
if
you're
not
familiar
with
Seminole
Heights,
all
of
the
accessory
dwelling,
there's
all
the
garage
apartments
that
all
the
garages
are
built
up
right
against
the
property
line,
the
alleys
and
so
current
code
was
was
making
was
calling
for
it
to
be
built,
22
feet
in
from
the
property
line,
so
where
that
was
part
of
the
reason
for
the
variance.
D
J
Good
sir
alright
I'm,
depending
in
development,
the
city
doesn't
combine
or
either
join
or
destroying
polios
that's
done
by
the
property
appraiser's
office.
If
there
were
two
folios
on
that
property
in
two
separate
lots
and
they
were
combined
together,
that's
usually
done
either
by
the
property
appraiser
with
the
property
owner's
permission.
The
city
is
not
part
of
that
request.
Yes,.
D
Again,
sir
I
can't
answer
that
question
all
I
know
is
when
I
was
involved
with
I
was
on
the
committee
that
created
it.
They
helped
create
the
historic
district
for
Seminole,
Heights
and
I.
Did
the
the
footprint
of
every
building
to
help
us
apply
for
and
become
a
historic
district
and
I
know
for
a
fact
that
our
lot
next
door
to
us
was
listed
as
50/50
605?
Well,.
D
Appraiser's
office,
no,
sir,
because
right
now
this
came
to
light
as
we
were
going
through
this
process
and
at
this
point
we
have
no
intentions
really
of
selling
that
property
and
once
the
AARC
granted
our
variance
and
granted
that
building
/
or
DRC
to
build
a
building
permit.
But
we
got
our
building
permit.
Our
purposes
were
met
and
we
don't
becomes
less
of
an
issue
now.
So
it
didn't
seem
to
be
as
important.
I
Counsel,
the
issue
of
whether
or
not
it's
two
outs
or
one
lot
can't
be
resolved
today.
If
they
want
to
continue
this
room,
we
can
look
into
what
happened
or
they
can
proceed
forward
and
try
to
resolve
it
today.
The
bottom
line
is
they're
here
today,
because
there
is
a
nuance
on
your
code
for
accessory
structures.
You
may
agree
with
it.
You
may
not
agree
with
it.
You
may
want
to
change
it
today
as
it
stands.
I
If
your
lot
became
legal
because
you
got
a
variance
which,
before
the
AR
see
you
have
to
get
a
waiver,
they
they
got,
they
got
the
variance.
Their
lot
is
legal.
This
structure
is
legal,
but
to
have
their
accessory
dwelling
unit
because
of
the
way
your
code
is
written,
they
have
to
get
a
waiver.
We
can
look
at
that
in
the
future,
but
that's
where
we
are
today.
The
only
other
option
is
he
could
continue
this
hearing.
D
So
and
I'm
not
being
adversarial
I,
just
when
I'm
just
to
clarify
things
understand
this.
When
we
went
before
the
AR
see,
the
plans
that
were
approved
were
with
the
kitchen
in
it
and
it
was
approved
with
all
those
elements.
So
it
wasn't
until
we
went
before
the
city
to
get
the
building
permit,
and
then
the
city
advised
us
to
remove
the
kitchen
so
that
we
could
expedite
the
process
and
then
put
the
kitchen
back
at
a
later
date.
B
I
Let
him
know
that
he
needed
to
be
through
this
process
sooner
I'm,
not
sure
what
happened,
but
certainly
I
apologize
for
that,
because
it
would
have
been
helpful
if
you
were
told
at
that
time
that
you
had
to
go
through
this
process.
However,
the
AARC
doesn't
have
the
ability
to
grant
these
waivers.
They
don't
have
any
control
over
the
use
of
the
property,
so,
whatever
the
air
sea
did,
they
don't
have
the
authority
to
have
granted
this
use.
It's
not
within
their
purview.
Thank.
K
K
Unfortunately,
the
code,
this
I
don't
know
I
can't
remember
the
exact
word
that
Rebecca
used,
but
this
sort
of
anomaly
in
the
code
perhaps
needs
addressing
down
the
road,
but
that
doesn't
help
you
because
you're
here
today
dealing
with
the
code
that
we
have
and
there's
nothing.
We
can't
change
the
code
ad
hoc
like
that.
So
all
we
can
do
is
go
ahead
and
review
the
administer
administrator
or
you
know
who
made
that
decision.
K
B
D
So
it
seems
to
me
that
the
city
is
going
in
that
direction
and
understands
the
need
for
that,
and
yet
our
code
is
far
behind
where
the
city
wants
to
go
and
believe
that
there
is
a
need,
and
furthermore
we
didn't
we
would
never
talk.
There
was
a
wave
or
a
need
for
a
wave,
or
we
certainly
would
have
done
that.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
B
J
K
Use
permit
application
for
that
petition,
because
petitioner
has
demonstrated
that
the
petition,
if
the
waiver
is
granted,
is
consistent
with
the
applicable
gener
standards
set
forth
in
section
27
129
at
the
time
of
permitting
the
site
plan
must
meet
all
applicable
codes
and
standards
to
section
27,
61b
and
27.
127
b2,
specifically
I
believe
that
that
this
that
this
particular
petitioner
demonstrated
probably
even
more
exhaustively
to
the
AARC
that
this
was
a
good
project
that
this
project
didn't
impose
on
on
any
of
their
neighbors.
K
As
stated
originally,
this
was
you
know,
Lots
whether
it
is
or
isn't.
Today.
It's
not
really
that
relevant
in
my
opinion,
but
it's
a
large
property
it
can.
It
can
accommodate
this
their
two-thirds
of
the
way
done
with
building
it
because
they
thought
they
could,
and
this
seems
more
of
a
technicality
to
me
regard
to
our
code
and
after
we're
done
with
the
motion.
I'll
probably
address
the
code,
but
that's
neither
here
nor
there,
as
I
said
earlier,
we're
stuck
with
the
code
as
it
is
today,
and
the
only
way
to
continue
this
project
is.
I
Rebecca
Kurt
legal
department,
this
one
should
be
fairly
straightforward.
This
is
not
a
de
novo
hearing,
so
you
will
not
be
taking
new
evidence
or
testimony.
The
original
request
was
for
a
lot
reconfiguration
and
I
believe
Riverside
Heights,
and
there
were
two
lots:
two
flooded
logs
that
were
a
north-south
orientation
and
the
request
was
to
have
them
be
in
an
east-west
orientation.
The
journey
administrator
review
that,
pursuant
to
the
code,
provisions
regarding
lot
reconfiguration
and
deny
the
request
a
lot
reconfiguration
is
a
type
of
request.
I
That's
noticed
to
the
public
and
the
public
has
an
opportunity
to
participate.
Those
sorts
of
requests
when
someone
challenges
is
only
the
administrators.
Determination
goes
to
a
hearing
officer
for
a
de
novo
review.
That
happened
in
this
case
and
the
hearing
officer
reviewed
the
matter
agreed
with
the
Zoning
Administrator
and
again
denied
the
request
to
take
the
Lots
from
north
south
to
east
west.
I
Subsequent
to
that
time
we
have
a
letter
from
the
property
owner
or
from
the
property
owner's
representative
saying
that
they
were
not
filing
any
exceptions
to
the
hearing
officers
recommended
order,
denying
their
request
and
that
they
had
no
objections
to
you
adopting
the
recommended
order.
I
am
going
to
submit
three
sample
motions,
because
at
this
time
you
have
the
ability
to
adopt
a
remand
or
modify
or
because
there
are
no
exceptions
filed
and
the
property
owner
has
said
that
they
do
not
object
to
you
adopting
the
recommended
order.
I
K
I
Mr.
Dean
feller
I
I
cannot
explain
it.
I
can
just
tell
you
that
they
have
notified
the
city
through
a
letter
to
the
clerk
that
they
are
not
objecting
to
the
hearing.
Officers
recommended
order.
They
were
challenging
the
original
decision,
but
after
they've
received
the
recommended
order.
Perhaps
it
was
so
persuasive.
You
know
I
can't
put
myself
in
their
shoes,
but
they
are
no
longer
objecting
to
it.
K
I
I
K
B
H
Staff
was
here
earlier
for
the
Planning
Commission
I,
don't
know
whether
it
was
counsels
desire
to
have
them
speak
on
this
council
may
recall
that
they
recently
came
to
Council
with
their
first
list
of
the
rezoning
so
seizing
the
comp
plan.
Changes
for
the
parks,
I,
don't
know
what
they
had
communicated
the
council
if
anything,
but
it's
council
pleasure
how
you
wish
to
proceed.
This
is
just
a
report.
Yes,.
B
B
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
by
Councilman
citrus
second
by
Ken
cement
in
Scottsville,
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed
okay.
Next,
we
move
on
board
to
item
number
84.
I
know
this
is
this
we
can
accept
this
or
if
anyone
English
is
to
discuss,
motion
to
receive
and
file.
Some
of
second
sorry
motion
to
receive
and
followed
by
councilman
Scott,
close
second,
that
councilman
Citro
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed.
Next,
we
involved
in
item
number
85,
aye
I,
believe
the
the
resolution
has
been
drafted
in
that
regard.
Councilman
is
calcio.
G
I
had
my
work
with
our
City
Council
attorney
to
draft
this
resolution.
My
a
Lisa
sent
it
out
to
everyone
and
I
hope
everyone
had
a
chance
to
look
it
over.
If
not
I
have
a
hard
copy
here
and
I
made
my
comments
earlier.
The
public
spoke,
those
that
came
in
support
and
I
would
I
would
appreciate
everyone's
support
or
whomever
would
like
to
support
this
and
move.
K
In
theory,
in
concept,
I'm
totally
supportive
of
the
concept
of
universal
health
care
and
health,
healthcare
is
a
human
right
and
I'll
support.
The
motion
CERN's
me
a
little
bit
because,
as
we
listen
to
some
of
these
debates
on
television,
they
talked
about
there's,
there's
differing
opinions
between
the
candidates
and
they
talk
about
the
expense
of
you
know
of
universal
health
care,
as
opposed
to
perhaps
medicare
for
all
who
wanted
as
referring
to
which
might
be
a
little
cheaper,
I.
Don't
know
you.
K
F
Feel
the
same
way,
no
one's
ever
told
anyone.
This
exactly
was
gonna
cost
and
here's
exactly
where
the
money's
coming
in
so
I'm
gonna
support
it.
But
I,
don't
know
all
the
facts:
I,
don't
think
the
candidates
running
for
office
don't
know
either
they're
being
attacking
each
other.
The
same
subject
out
for
four
months
and
neither
one's
come
up
with
a
number.
B
I'll
give
my
two
thoughts
actually
agree
with
those
sentiments
you
know:
I,
Councilman,
dink,
Felder
and
I
are
have
a
photograph
in
our
office
of
the
same
gentleman,
Hubert,
Humphrey
and
I,
always
like
to.
Whenever
people
ask
me
what
my
political
model
is
or
my
political
credo
I
always
quote:
Hubert
Humphrey,
who
said
that
the
moral
test
of
government
is
how
it
treats
those
who
were
in
the
dawn
of
life,
the
children,
those
in
the
twilight
of
life,
the
elderly
and
those
in
the
shadows
of
life,
the
sick,
the
median
the
handicapped.
B
That's
what
I
believe
in
I
I've
always
believed
in
health
care
as
a
right.
It
really
goes
down
to
my
basic
political
philosophy,
I
believe
in
the
idea
not
to
get
all
political
here,
but
the
you
know
of
Roosevelt
Truman,
Stevenson,
Kennedy,
Johnson
type
of
idea
that
that
government
ought
to
be
active
on
behalf
of
the
people.
Call
me
old-fashioned,
but
that's
what
I
believe,
and
that
goes
also
to
the
issue
of
health
care.
There
has
been
for
80
years
in
this
country
a
long
struggle
to
expand
health
care
to
people.
B
You
know
FDR
originally
wanted
a
universal
health
care
under
Social.
Security
didn't
even
try
to
go
there
because
he
was
lucky
to
get
Social
Security
President
Harry
Truman
was
the
first
president
to
formally
propose
an
actual
national
health
care
plan
which
actually
was
in
effect
Medicare
for
all.
It
was
to
be
administered
by
essentially
a
payroll
tax.
B
He
couldn't
get
that
there
was
a
big
fight
with
that
with
the
Congress,
with
the
AMA,
with
health,
insurance
companies
etc,
and
then
President
Kennedy
supported
Medicare
President
Johnson
got
Medicare
with
the
idea
that
we
would
eventually
expand
it.
President
Carter
support
universal
health
care,
President
Nixon,
a
lot
of
people
don't
know
this
actually
tried
to
get
some
form
of
universal
health
care
to
his
credit
and
then
of
course,
President
Clinton.
B
B
So
my
idea
is
that
the
public
sector
has
a
real
compelling
interest
whenever
it
comes
to
health
care
and
whether
you
do
it
under
so-called
single-payer
a
lot
of
unknowns
there,
whether
you
do
it
under
pay
or
play,
whether
you
do
it
under
the
public
option,
whether
you're
doing
under
employer
mandate.
My
issue
is
get
it
done.
People
are
dying.
Health
care
is
a
human
right,
especially
for
the
richest
country
in
the
world.
It's
a
shame
so
just
my
opinion.
F
Yes,
sir,
thank
you
for
that
history.
Lesson
I
appreciate,
know
seriously.
You
know
I'm
going
back
to
the
forties.
When
I
was
born,
we
had
called
mutual
aid
societies,
everybody
paid
the
same.
You
were
from
birth
to
death,
to
take
care
of
you
for
the
same
amount
and
they
worked
fine.
He
had
clinics,
you
had
surgery,
you
had
x-ray
machines,
you
had
labs,
you
had
everything,
so
we
got
so
smart
that
they
had
to
get
out
of
business
because
the
government
came
in
said
we're
gonna.
Have
these
health
plans?
F
What
was
successful
became
unsuccessful.
It
was
run
right
here
in
Tampa.
You
go
check.
The
history
of
good
Silas,
clinic
days,
clinic
set
to
find
your
dental
toreano
they're
all
had
their
doctors,
they're
all
had
their
clinics
and
everything
was
wandering.
Wonderful.
All
of
a
sudden,
we
learned
a
lot
and
now
we've
paid
the
price
for
not
doing
what
we
learned.
That's
all
thank.
B
You
thank
you,
sir.
Okay
councilman.
Do
you
wish
to
move
the
resolution?
Sir?
Yes,
sir
I
move
the
resolution.
Thank
you,
sir.
Do
we
have
a
second,
we
have
motion
by
Councilman
dyscalculia
sent
them
to
councilman
citra,
all
in
favor
any
opposed.
Okay.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Gentlemen.
Next
move
onward
to
item
number
87
I
hear
this
snaps
item
number.
D
B
Mr.
Shelby,
along
with
our
city
attorney,
miss
Grimes,
has
helped
draft
the
resolution
with
regards
to
the
use
of
assault
weapons.
This
this
is
one
that
I
did.
It,
unfortunately,
got
held
up
for
just
a
little
bit
over
some
apparent
confusions
I'm,
not
looking
at
any
specific
legislation,
essentially
just
as
the
resolution
says,
from
the
federal
level
from
1994
to
about
2004,
we
had
an
assault,
weapons
provision
in
federal
law
that
banned
assault,
rifles
of
and
assault
weapons,
and
there's
a
couple
of
other
things
that
we're
looking
to
support
here.
B
To
me,
this
is
just
common
sense.
Polls
showed
that
up
to
60%
of
Republicans
support,
this
endeavor
I
remind
my
friends
and
in
2004,
then
president
george,
w
bush
or
in
2000
in
the
know,
for
when
pret,
when
governor
bush
was
looking
to
be
president,
he
supported
extent
the
assault
weapons
ban.
This
isn't
some
radical
concept
to
me.
This
is
just
common
sense
and
and
that's
why
I
move
this
forward.
B
G
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G
Have
to
look
at
a
common-sense
approach
and
this
this
would
tie
into
the
whole
thing
with
medicare-for-all.
When
we
ask
what
is
our
purpose
in
life,
we
are
here
to
take
care
of
one
another,
whether
it's
look
after
each
other's
health
or
take
care
and
protect
each
other
in
in
the
community.
Do
you
have
these
weapons
on
the
streets
that
have
existed
for
the
last
century?
Or
so
you
know
there
was.
There
was
life
and
there
was
the
world
before
that.
G
But
if
you
look
at
the
news,
if
you
see
what
happens
almost
daily
or
weekly
I,
think
back
to
my
first
when
I
first
heard
of
a
mass
shooting,
for
example-
and
it
was
Columbine
because
I
was
a
freshman
in
high
school
and
when
I
heard
it
on
the
radio
I
remember
was
it
was
14
years
old.
I
was
in
the
car
with
my
mother,
I
thought
it
was
happening
somewhere
here
in
Tampa,
then
I
realize
it
was
in
Colorado.
But
you
know
before
that
there
was
an
innocence.
G
You
know
the
worst
thing
you
would
hear
at
school,
at
least
in
my
opinion
was
some
kids
fought
on
the
playground
or
fought
in
the
parking
lot
and
they
got
detention.
But
then
you
have
two
people
with
these
weapons.
Whatever
weapons
they
had
I,
don't
remember
the
exact
guns,
but
with
this
mass
shooting,
essentially,
you
know
picking
and
choosing
to
the
school
and
whatnot
and
then
committing
suicide.
G
After
that,
the
view
that
I
had
you
know
about
life
and
school
and
the
innocence
of
just
being
a
student
you
know
going
to
class
was
now
you
have
to
be
careful,
because
if
it
could
happen
there,
it
happened
we're
kind
of
thing,
but
beyond
that
malls
aren't
safe,
post
offices
aren't
safe,
the
airport
might
be
safe.
You
know.
B
G
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G
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B
B
You
have
in
this
country,
people
who
have
owned
guns
that
are
have
been
in
families
for
generations
and
God
bless
and
that's
a
family
tradition,
people
own
guns
to
defend
themselves,
because
that's
something
that
they
are
equipped
to
do
I
and
that's
something
that
I
think
we
all
universally
respect.
But
this
issue
is
separate
and
distinct
tonight,
in
my
opinion.
So
if
I
may
have
a
motion.
F
B
F
F
B
True,
yes,
it
would
appear
next
item
number
89
that
was
councilman
Goods,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
thank
you.
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
by
Councilman.
Is
calcio,
may
I
have
a
second
second,
my
second,
my
councilman
Citra,
all
in
favor
aye
any
opposed.
Next,
we
move
to
information
reports,
a
new
business
by
council
members
accounts
they
filled
or
anything
sure.
Yes,.
K
G
G
G
F
B
Okay
and
I
and
I'm
strongly
supportive
of
this
idea.
My
view
is
the
more
citizens
we
get
involved
in
the
issues
like
this
and
making
people
feel
empowered
that
the
better
off
things
are
so
I
salute
you
for
that
councilman.
We
have
a
motion
by
Councilman,
Minnis,
Campos,
second,
by
Councilman
citro,
all
in
favor
any
opposed
anything
else.
Sir
nope.
F
B
F
F
B
K
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C
B
Just
really
quick,
if
I
may
emotion
for
Tampa
City
Council
to
prepare
a
letter
of
support
of
an
stork
centers,
a
right
away,
program
and
I
can
provide
you
all
with
a
letter
very
non-controversial.
The
mission
of
this
program
I
was
presented
to
it
under
the
M
POS
transportation
disadvantage.
A
committee
is
to
assist
transportation,
disadvantaged
persons
by
educating
them
about
the
different
transportation
services
and
instructing
them
how
to
use
modes
of
transportation
through
a
peer-to-peer
approach.
B
Thank
you
and
then
just
very
briefly
to
two
things.
I
was
asked
also
to
do
a
commendation
which
we
will
get
next
week,
because
I
believe
this
month
is
the
Planning,
Commission's
and
I.
Don't
know
what
number
was
their
anniversary.
They
asked
for
a
commendation,
but
may
I
have
a
council
vote
on
getting
a
comment
and
losing
my
words,
which
is
rare,
a
commendation
for
the
Planning
Commission
to
be
presented
sometime
next
week.
G
B
You
and
then
just
very
last
I
wanted
to
remind
all
council
members
that
on
Friday
evening,
gosh
I
don't
have
the
location,
but
it's
gonna
be
the
fifth
annual
veteran's
treatment.
Court
holiday
get-together
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
go
that
this
program
is
just
an
amazing
program
that
has
gotten
national
acclaim.
It's
led
by
our
good
friend
Colonel
DJ
Reyes,
Colonel,
Jim,
Fletcher,
Colonel,
Ron
rook,
and
so
many
great
men
and
women,
and
it's
an
inspiring
program
and
I
and
I
love
it
so
I
would
encourage
them
when
they
go
to
a
contra.
Mr.
B
F
B
H
Of
items,
mr.
chairman,
first
of
all,
with
regard
to
last
week's
workshop
that
didn't
take
place
that
was
supposed
to
follow
the
CRA,
but
because
it
was
a
lengthy
CRA
meeting
we
ran
out
of
time.
It
occurred
to
me
that
setting
it
that
at
something
other
than
a
time,
certain
does
not
work.
You
have
another
one
coming
up
on
November
14th,
another
two-hour
one.
H
My
suggestion
is
twofold:
you
can
either
set
it
for
a
time
certain
at
1:30
to
remind
you,
counsel
that
would
make
you
have
a
morning
CRA
meeting
an
afternoon
two-hour
meeting,
and
then
you
have
an
evening
meeting.
Your
other
alternative
is
just
to
remove
it
from
the
agenda
and
I'll
work
with
your
legislative
aides
to
see.
If
what
time
we
can
work
out,
something
comprehensive,
maybe
a
four-hour
one
or
something
without
you
having
to
spend
an
entire
day.
H
B
H
H
G
G
G
B
H
Cut
it
down
to
one
more
item,
just
council
just
so
that
you're
aware
next,
if
you
haven't
looked
at
the
calendar
for
next
Thursday's
workshop
as
I
calculated,
you
have
three
commendations
three
presentations
and
nine
items,
four
of
which
a
labeled
staff
report,
so
that
looks
like
council
in
the
best
of
times,
not
including
public
comment
that
is
going
to
perhaps
run
into
the
afternoon.
So
I
would
just
ask
and
council.