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C
This
morning,
to
welcome
Victor
DeMaio,
to
give
the
invocation
he's
no
stranger
to
Tampa
City
Hall.
His
family
is
well
respected.
A
longtime
family
has
father
Victor
senior
and
his
mother
mercy
always
very
very
involved.
As
a
kid
growing
up,
I
would
hear
one
of
the
names.
If
you
wanted
anything
done,
you
had
to
go
see
big
Vic.
C
Of
the
people-
and
he
was
always
very
involved
and
dedicated
himself
to
always
giving
back
and
helping
anyone
he
could
in
need
very
good
reputation,
very
well-respected.
So
we
have
his
son
Victor
Rudy
DeMaio
here,
to
give
the
invocation.
So
if
you
would
please
stand
and
remain
standing
for
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
Thank
you.
E
I
am
Catholic,
but
in
honor
of
Yom
Kippur,
her
just
happy
yesterday,
I
have
Malka
Isaac
here
as
well,
so
we
have
to
even
though
I
will
give
this
in
a
Catholic
version.
I
want
to
recognize
my
my
friends
in
the
Jewish
community
as
well,
since
this
we're
on
the
tail
end
of
the
Yom
Kippur
celebration,
so
to
all
my
Jewish
fans.
Thank
you
to
the
rest
of
us.
I
wanted
everybody
to
bow
our
heads
in
prayer
Lord.
E
Please
give
us
strength
to
make
the
right
decisions
and
do
the
right
things,
and
not
only
for
ourselves
but
in
our
families,
but
for
all
the
citizens
of
Tampa
may
give
us
grace
and
blessings.
And
may
you
see
us
through
these
times,
even
though
things
are
prosperous
now
they
may
not
be
there
always.
So
we
have
to
think
about
the
future.
B
Good
morning,
chairman
morning,
board
John
Bennett
chief
of
staff
I
was
informed
this
morning
that
mr.
Henry
could
not
make
it
on
short
notice.
The
short
notice
was
that
he
could
not
make
it.
So
we
were
gonna
roll
right
into
item
two
and
then
mr.
Henry's
report
will
be
covered
by
the
respective
CRA
manager.
That's
acceptable.
A
F
Morning,
chair
and
if
we
have
the
the
presentation,
so
this
is
a
new
format
that
we're
starting
this
month
with
you
all
your
respective
CRA
managers
will
come
up
and
give
a
report
on
our
respective
areas.
If
there
is
something
that
you
would
like
us
to
cover,
that
may
not
be
on
your
regular
agenda.
If
you
let
us
know
before
the
meeting,
that's
what
we
can
focus
on
during
this
portion
of
the
meeting
and
I
will
try
to
be
brief.
F
So
moving
forward
with
West
Tampa,
the
West
Ham
CAC
is
hard
at
work
in
the
subcommittee
process.
We
have
four
subcommittees
special
events,
infrastructure,
economic
development
and
housing.
Our
housing
subcommittee
is
working
on
a
partnership
with
the
city's
housing
department
on
a
rehabilitation
program,
something
similar
to
the
item
that
you
will
see
later
on
in
this
agenda
coming
out
of
East
Tampa.
Our
special
event
subcommittee
continues
to
evaluate
applications
for
special
events
in
the
West
Tampa
CRA,
and
we
recently
completed
our
second
annual
cultural
festival.
F
Our
infrastructure
subcommittee
met
just
last
night
and
they
are
hard
at
work
at
taking
a
look
at
the
West
overlay
and
our
economic
subcommittee
is
addressing
workforce
development,
Browns
fields,
marketing
and
looking
into
the
tool
and
banking
in
West
ample.
Our
commercial
facade
grant
program
was
just
to
prove
in
April
and
so
far
we've
approved
three
grants
for
a
little
over
$100,000
leveraging
close
to
seven
hundred
and
seventy
thousand
dollars
in
private
investment
in
direct
CRA
activities.
F
Our
stormwater
department
is
currently
under
construction
of
the
Cypress
Street
Fall
Out
phase,
one
on
Cass
Street,
the
green
spine.
That's
also
a
loan
Cass
Street
connecting
to
downtown
is,
is
designed
in
preparing
for
construction.
The
Housing
Authority
is
underway
on
construction
of
two
projects,
one
on
the
corner
of
Rome
and
main
the
Renaissance
project,
as
well
as
the
rehabilitation
of
the
mayor
MacLeod,
the
Finland
high-rise,
notable
events
in
West
Tampa
next
week.
This
is
a
just
an
announcement
and
I
have
a
flier.
Here.
F
F
Moving
on
to
to
Drew
Park
the
largest
undertaking
we're
preparing
for
the
construction
of
the
Tampa
Bay
Boulevard
linear
park,
construction
should
begin
this
month.
Staff
is
also
working
with
our
contract
administration
department
to
finalize
the
selection
of
a
professional
services
firm
to
update
our
drew
Park
strategic
plan
and
just
our
facade
grant
program.
We
do
consider
a
successful
injury
part.
It
was
approved
in
2009
almost
10
years
ago.
F
So
far,
we've
approved
39
grants
for
a
little
over
1.1
million
dollars
and
we've
leveraged
3.6
million
in
private
investment,
indirect
activities
HCC
completed
their
23
million
dollar
allied
health
building.
There
was
a
grand
opening
event
that
many
of
you
attended
a
few
weeks
ago.
The
stadium
project
is
a
large
construction
project
along
Bill.
Mabry
highway
consist
of
a
new
Radisson,
a
new
Econolodge
8iv
pet
hotel
in
a
veterinary
clinic,
as
well
as
some
other
commercial
buildings
and
across
the
street
from
drew
park.
F
There
was
a
ribbon-cutting
last
week
for
the
new
CAE
USA
building,
we're
hopeful
that
with
all
those
new
folks
and
all
those
new
jobs
in
the
area
that
they
will
support
those
small
businesses
and
drew
part
and
again
notable
events,
was
the
ribbon
cutting
of
allied
health
building.
Now
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Courtney
I.
G
G
D
Who
came
up
with
the
floor
manager
I
know
who
came
up
with
the
format-
probably
chief
Bennett
parking
with
this
format,
but
it's
a
great
format,
so
we
can
always
go
back
and
look
at
it's
a
great
job
to
chief
and
his
staff.
I
attended
the
event.
I
know
you
worked
very
hard
now
coming
we're
out
there.
You
know
sunup
sundown,
so
we
appreciate
your
efforts,
it's
hard,
putting
on
an
event
sometime.
D
H
Morning,
Courtney
or
CIA
manager
of
Ybor
City.
Some
of
the
highlights
that
we
have
direct
category
is
that
something
you'll
hear
further
more
in
detail
about
later
in
the
agenda
is
the
facade
grant
program.
We
did
have
a
discussion
at
our
board
meeting.
What
the
group
would
like
to
do,
and
the
only
suggestion
that
they
had
made
at
this
time
was
that
they
would
like
for
the
waiting
period
to
no
longer
be
24
months,
but
to
be
12
months.
H
H
So
we
will
be
submitting
that
to
you
shortly
for
your
review
and
hopefully
approval
at
the
November
14th
meeting,
and
then
the
Planning
Commission
will
review
and
approve
its
November
18th
meeting
we've
been
working
on
a
lot
of
its
aesthetics
in
the
in
the
district
and
you'll,
see
some
Palm
Avenue
medium
median
improvements
that
will
be
completed
this
month.
We've
also
been
working
on
Centennial
Park
with
its
irrigation
system
and
replace
the
palm
trees
that
weren't
looking
that
well
and
one
that
had
died
and
was
gone.
H
So
we
actually
have
replaced
three
palm
trees,
so
we're
trying
to
make
the
park
spruced
up,
look
spruced
up,
and
so
it's
looking
really
well
also.
We
were
given
a
donation
from
the
Ybor
City
round
table
to
improve
the
immigrant
statue
in
Centennial
Park.
So
due
to
a
ten
thousand
five
hundred
dollar
contribution
from
that
organization,
we've
been
able
to
repair
the
imperfections
of
that
statue
in
Centennial
Park.
H
We
have
actually
been
continuing
communication
with
the
city
of
Tampa
housing
department
and
we'd
like
to
have
a
program
that
reflects
what
East
Tampa
is
doing
in
regard
to
the
rehabilitation
program.
So
I
will
be
going
to
the
board
to
discuss
infusing
money
into
that
program
so
that
we
can
help
with
the
rehabilitation
of
the
homes
so
I'm
in
discussions
with
Vanessa
McCleary
on
that.
So
hopefully
that'll
come
to
you
in
the
next
few
months,
once
I
get
why
CDC
board
approval
of
where
to
pull
that
money
from
to
repurpose
it
into
that
program.
H
We've
been
working
very
closely
with
the
parking
and
facility
staff
making
sure
that
our
garages
are
safe
and
well
maintained.
We
have
new
camera
so
that
links
equipment
in
both
garages
and
both
Viraj
restrooms
are
under
way
with
improvements
to
each
we've,
also
been
working
with
them
in
regard
to
what
what
we
would
like
to
put
monies
toward
for
fiscal
year.
Twenty
four
parking
parking
projects.
H
As
far
as
indirect
we
through
our
Public
Safety
and
Transportation
Committee,
we
take
suggestions
from
the
community
as
far
as
what
they
feel
may
be.
Unsafe
roadways,
unsafe
multi-way
stops.
So
we
took
some
of
those
concerns
to
the
parking
or
transportation
division
and
they've
been
studying
some
of
those
concerns
that
the
community
has
where
they
feel
some
of
the
area's
are
unsafe.
So
a
few
of
those
have
been
approved
that
they
warranted
a
multi
multi
waste.
Obverses
two-way
stop.
H
So
the
community
is
very
happy
about
that
and
as
far
as
our
outreach
to
Ybor
stakeholders,
we're
always
talking
with
various
stakeholder
groups,
one
being
Hillsborough
County,
the
Hillsborough
Community
College
campus
and
Ybor.
They
have
many
events
there
at
their
facility,
so
we've
met
with
the
staff
met
with
the
theater
dance
and
arts
department
to
help
facilitate
communication
and
and
cross
promotion
of
those
showcased
events
on
their
campus
in
Ybor
City.
H
We're
excited
that
the
barrio
Latino
Commission
through
some
funding
assistance
from
the
Y
CDC
board
that
they're
going
to
be
upgrading
their
urban
design
guidelines,
so
we'll
stay
engaged
with
the
borough.
Latino,
Commission
and
they'll
allow
us
hopefully
to
have
some
weigh
in
on
the
design
guideline
process,
and
we
had
a
presentation,
interesting
presentation
from
Michael
Mintzberg,
who
is
the
owner
of
site
realty.
H
He
presented
to
our
planning
infrastructure
and
economic
development
committee
with
his
projects
that
he
has
underway,
which
are
pretty
significant,
there's
a
four-story
mixed-use
apartment
project
with
two
hundred
and
fifty
four
units
and
11,500
square
feet
of
retail,
that's
just
off
of
Adamo
across
from
copper
tail
and
so
that
that
broke
ground.
A
few
weeks
ago
there
is
a
7,500
square
foot
office
ability
in
along
7th
Avenue
with
a
coffee
house
and
wine
bar
and
that
brand
opening
for
the
coffee
house
and
wine
bar
is
tomorrow.
H
H
And
then
he's
also
done
renovations
of
12
duplexes
along
12th
Avenue,
and
he
considered
those
to
be
attainable
housing.
He
he
has
targeted
the
sale
point
at
170
to
210
and
don't
can
he
settle
in
on
a
specific
price
yet,
but
he
does
consider
that
to
be
an
attainable
housing
project
as
well
as
some
infill
of
casitas
long
4th
Avenue.
H
As
far
as
notable
events,
we're
proud
to
say
that
the
more
in
Ybor
campaign
did
win
a
state
award
and
and
another
local
award
so
we'll
be
receiving
at
the
ceremony
for
at
the
Florida
Redevelopment
Association
conference
on
October
17th
we'll
be
receiving
that
statewide
award
from
that
organization
and
then
we'll
be
accepting
the
local
award
at
the
October
29th
event
at
the
Pepin
Center.
So
we've
invited
CR
a
board
to
attend.
H
So
if
you
can,
we'd
really
appreciate
that
something
interesting
that
the
association's
the
Neighborhood
Association
started,
and
they
just
did
a
small
group
of
community
members
that
did
a
bicycle
ride
through
Ybor,
City
and
East
Ybor,
and
just
to
know
things
that
street
lighting
vegetation,
overgrowth
the
roadways.
So
so
they
went
out
and
and
did
a
very,
very
slow
bike
ride
to
document
things
that
might
need
improvements
and
then
they're
going
to
report
back
to
us
so
that
we
can
address
those
things
that
they
found
along
the
way.
H
H
H
It
slipped
my
mind.
Yes,
the
the
chair
persons
from
each
of
the
CFCs
were
invited
to
attend
with
each
of
the
CRA
managers,
just
to
do
a
little
powwow
type
of
meaning
to
share
ideas
of
what
each
CRA
is
doing.
And,
and
so
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
things
like
security
cameras
and
the
district
east
Anthes
contribution
to
the
community
housing
programs
superbowl,
what's
each
doing
for
which
what
is
each
district
doing
with
superbowl
on
the
horizon.
H
D
A
C
A
I
Slides
to
advance
here
we
go
there.
We
go
a
nice
Tampa,
we're
working
on
in
September
here
on
your
agenda
later
this
morning
for
consideration.
Approval
are
two
programs
that
the
East
Tampa
advisory
committee
has
offered
up
for
affordable
housing.
The
first
one
is
a
$500,000
funding
in
conjunction
with
our
Housing
and
Community
Development
divisions,
housing
and
rehabilitation
assistance
program.
I
The
goal
of
this
program
is
to
assist
30
individuals
at
a
maximum
of
$15,000
per
applicant
and
again
it's
on
the
agenda
for
approval
this
morning.
The
second
program
is
a
$400,000
funding
to
create
the
East
Tampa
downpayment
assistance
program
and
homebuyer
education
workshop
again.
These
funds,
hopefully,
will
assist
approximately
25
individuals
at
a
maximum
of
$15,000
per
applicant.
I
I
The
next
one
is.
The
CAC
has
authorized
the
issuance
of
an
RFP
two
interested
developers
and
contractors
to
propose
potential
mixed-use
development
concepts
using
that
they
can
infill
properties
that
we
remaining
in
the
CRA.
The
final
scoring
and
rankings
have
been
completed
there.
There
will
be
a
last
meeting,
that's
scheduled
for
November
13th,
where
the
shortlisted
folks
will
come
and
make
presentations
and
so
awards
are
pending
announcement.
I
The
CAC
also
authorized
the
issuance
of
an
RFQ
to
mister
interested
consultants
to
update
the
East
Tampa
strategic
action
plan
and
the
submittals
were
received
on
September
19th
five
qualified
submittals
were
received
and
have
been
reviewed
and
scored.
Two
advisory
committee
members
were
part
of
the
review
and
scoring
process.
The
CCA
shortlist
presentation
has
been
scheduled
for
October
15th
at
10:30
a.m.
here
in
Council
Chambers,
also
like
West
West
Tampa,
our
commercial
facade
program
has
been,
we
feel,
has
been
very
successful.
I
Over
the
years,
we've
approved
27
grants
for
a
total
of
eight
hundred
and
sixty
two
thousand
one
hundred
and
thirty-seven
dollars
in
grant
funding,
which
leveraged
three
million.
One
hundred
and
forty
three
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
three
dollars
in
private
investment
and,
of
course,
that
approp.
That
program
was
approved
by
the
board
back
in
November
of
2009.
I
Our
indirect
activities,
as
everyone
has
been
hearing
from
from
past
presentations,
the
34th
Street
north
from
Columbus
Drive
to
East
Hillsborough
Avenue
project,
is
under
way
a
city
contract
and
FDOT
lab
contract
in
the
amount
of
3.3
million
dollars.
The
bid
opened
October
1st
remember
this
is
a
safety
improvement
project
along
the
corridor
city
council
approval
is
scheduled
for
December
19th
and
awards
scheduled
for
January
2020.
I
The
second
one
I
want
to
bring
up
for
note
is
the
East
Columbus
Drive
from
Northland
Braska,
going
over
to
North
14th
Street
project.
This
is
also
a
city
contract
partnered,
with
the
with
FDOT
Lap
project.
The
departments
have
received
on
a
percent
design
and
construction
documents
for
review
and
responses
were
due.
October
11th.
This
is
an
approximately
2.3
million
dollar
project.
It's
a
bike.
Lighting,
sidewalk
and
safety
project
with
also
some
streets
receiving
some
newly
added
trees
along
the
corner.
I
Notable
events
planning
for
a
planning
effort
began
for
our
13th
annual
East
Tampa
Christmas
tree
lighting
program
scheduled
for
Friday
December,
13th
2019
at
Yonge,
middle
school
market
rate,
housing
with
and
I
think
I
mentioned.
It
is
the
last
time
we
met
the
steel
frame.
Housing
concept
is
a
house
is
being
constructed
right
now
at
2604,
East
Chelsea
Street,
the
photograph
there
on
the
on
the
left
of
the
screen.
There
is
a
picture
of
what
it
looks
like
in
the
interior,
wise
of
the
steel-framed
housing.
I
This
is
a
1,800
square,
foot
home,
it's
being
built
by
Jim
development,
also
going
along
with
housing
construction,
the
young
man
that
you
see
picture
there
in
the
bottom
right.
His
name
is
mr.
Kyler
Browning
Kyler
was
the
recipient
of
the
very
first
stem
exposure
camp,
around
architectural
design
for
revitalizing
East
Tampa
and
his
design
was
the
was
the
the
camp
at
the
end
of
the
camp
session.
His
design
was
picked
number
one
overall
in
the
interesting
thing
here
for
us
today
is
that
his
design
is
being
used
by
a
contractor.
I
J
I
It's
a
composite
type
material
materials
that
are
built
almost
similar
to
slat
it
type
surface.
So,
exposures
on
the.
J
I
Was
steel
you
can't
you
can't
tell
from
looking
from
the
outside.
It
was
all
steel
construction
that
was
done,
do
it,
but
it's
it's
very,
very,
very
well
done
the
material
that
they
used
for
the
steel
frame
is
manufactured
locally
in
Sarasota
and
shipped
at
various
sites.
This
particular
house
is
the
fourth
home
that
he
has
built
not
within
East
Ernest,
the
first
one
in
East
Tampa,
but
he's
built
him
in
other
parts
of
the
city
and
in
Hillsborough
County
has
been
very
successful.
C
J
In
regard
to
other
new
private
development,
maybe
next
month
or
the
month
after
and
I
would
say,
East
Tampa,
perhaps
West
Tampa
I'd,
be
curious
to
see
what
sort
of
new
construction
new
home
starts.
We're
looking
at,
obviously
as
a
CRA,
we
want
to
you
know.
Not
just
do
you
know,
do
our
work
but
to
inspire
the
private
sector
to
do
theirs
as
well
and
I
think
that's
happening
in
East,
Tampa
and
West
Tampa.
J
J
J
C
I
D
The
first
thing
they
question-answering.
What
can
we
do?
Free,
stamper
and
I
told
them
that
we
need
to
come
and
build
housing.
There
are
areas
in
our
district
that
I
think
that
there
should
be
interested
in
and
as
soon
as
soon
as
I
mentioned,
a
couple
of
properties
before
I
could
look
up
there
on
their
floor
already
like
wow,
that's
a
big
property.
D
So
I
think
we
need
to
have
a
more
aggressive
approach
once
we
get
this
information
back,
I
related
to
Michelle
rough,
some
things
that
I
want
the
board
to
understand
where,
where
I'm
coming
from-
and
hopefully
they
she'll
give
that
he'll,
take
that
back
to
your
CDC
board
and
have
an
aggressive
approach
and
reference
to
development.
We
have
the
aggressively
go
to
people,
people
just
ain't.
Gonna
come
to
us.
We've
got
to
put
things
out
there,
so
people
can
what
we
have.
So
they
can
say
I
want
to
bite
on
that.
J
Thank
You
mr.
chair
yeah,
I'm,
good
good
comment
and
I
do
just
reminded
me
of
one
other
question.
You
know
in
the
past
when
the
city
was
doing
some
of
these
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
were
here
mayor's
challenge
fund
and
that
sort
of
thing
the
it
used
to
be
for
first-time
homebuyers
in
terms
of
the
downpayment
assistance
and
other
types
of
assistance
was
limited
to
first-time
homebuyers
I.
J
J
J
I
would
hope
so
a
little
grace
period.
You
know,
obviously,
a
lot
of
people,
no
fault
of
their
own,
you
know
lost
their
houses
as
well
and
we
shouldn't
hold
that
against
them.
The
rest
there
long
so.
Thank
you.
I.
D
There's
a
company
I
think
it's
blue
sky
company
I
think
we,
the
CCBC
at
least,
have
a
conversation
with
that
gentleman.
The
they're
doing
some
wonderful
things
they're
coming
under
that
medium
income
and
I
think
with
maybe
some
properties
that
we
may
have
some
things
that
we
can
obtain
from
the
CRA
for
his
assets.
Maybe
to
help
that
company
not
saying
they're,
only
ones
but
they're
they
caught
my
eye,
and
you
know
also
the
builders
talked
about.
D
They
talked
about
and
I
know.
We've
got
some
things
come
up
in
reference
to
trees
and
I'm.
Glad
I
didn't
see
it
on
the
screen,
but
I'm
glad
that
I
think
you've
got
a
program.
That's
going
to
be
helping
the
trees.
I
talked
to
Michelle
net
yesterday.
That
should
be
notable.
Cuz
I
got
like
five
or
six
senior
citizens
at
about
90
years
old
that
need
their
trees
cut
because
it's
on
their
house
and
they
can't
afford
to
get
those
things
done
so
I'm
glad
that
that's
being
implemented.
D
That's
really
gonna
help
our
communities,
but
these
these
little
small
things
that
the
buildings
are
talking
about,
and
maybe
it
may
become
a
time
that
we,
our
managers,
need
to
meet
with
some
of
these
building
associations
see
what
these
challenges
are,
especially
in
each
camper,
to
help
them,
and
we
can
help
them
I.
Think
that
will
be
good
and
I.
Think
that
can
you
know,
really
push
the
needle
if
we
know
what
those
challenges
really
are.
L
K
K
The
Tampa
Convention
Center
renovations
we're
nearly
100%
complete
with
all
the
work
that
we've
contracted
with
our
our
Simmons
we're
going
to
be
putting
an
RFQ
out
for
the
larger
amount
of
work
that
we
have
and
due
to
the
size
of
the
scale
of
the
project.
That's
why
we're
going
out
for
another
part
of
Q
you'll,
see
that
soon.
C
K
K
There
we
go
I'm,
sorry,
so
our
indirect
activities.
We
have
a
lot
of
developments
that
are
going
on
in
downtown
Madeira
Tampa
makes
use
development.
That's
right.
Next
to
the
x,
building,
they've
started
their
lane
closures
and
started
the
preliminary
work
on
the
construction
right
next
to
them
is
Tyler
residences
and
they'll
be
doing
their
groundbreaking
and
late
October
early
November
they're,
looking
for
times
with
the
mayor's
office
and
your
gentlemen
about
having
a
groundbreaking
for
that.
K
River
Walk
placed
there
under
emulation
of
the
cap,
trust
building,
which
is
one
of
the
first
things
to
get
their
work
done.
The
waterside
Marriott
Hotel
has
just
completed
50
million
dollars
with
the
renovations
and
opened
up
a
new
restaurant.
They
are
called
anchor
and
brine
and
I
believe
that
is
either
had
it
this
week.
The
next
week
is
their
official
grand
opening.
On
that
notable
events,
the
urban
Excellence
Awards
are
will
be
held
in
November
and
harpoon
Harry's
and
the
sale
pavilion
we're
both
selected
for
that
for
the
urban
excellence
awards.
K
The
other
ones
were
an
early
design
on
and
working
with,
Tico
on
a
lot
of
the
undergrounding
that
goes
with
that
and
working
with
them
on
two
different
levels
of
moving
overhead
power
lines.
Underground
and
changing
out
lights
to
the
new
system
and
to
everything
will
be
led.
Then
I'm
not
gonna,
go
through
every
one
of
these
because,
as
you
can
see,
most
of
them
are
in
design.
Is
it
between
15
and
25
percent?.
K
Direct
activities
Madison
Street
Park,
is
about
30
percent,
complete
right
now
and
we've
finished
pretty
much
all
of
the
site,
remediation
work
and
we're
working
to
get
all
that
materials
ordered
for
that
that
are
going
to
be
installed
in
part
in
direct
activities
there
are
SPT
is
nearing
the
completion
of
Sparkman
Wharf.
If
you've
seen
been
on
channel
side,
Drive
recently
you'll
see
that
they
have
all
the
scaffolds
up.
They
should
be
done
here
in
the
next
two
months
or
so,
and
they'll
be
highlighted
at
the
at
the
African.
K
So
if
you
do
one
of
our
mobile
tours
about
that
notable
events
that
Channel
Club
held
their
grand
opening
and
just
another
day
later,
the
Hampton
end
home
to
Suites
held
their
grand
opening.
So
we've
had
some
really
good
successes
in
their
channel
district
and
finally,
getting
some
things
open
and
operational.
Any
questions.
J
K
J
J
Why
is
there
floor
area
ratio
there
FA
are
lower
than
than
the
SPP
or
the
downtown
FA
are,
and
you
know
historically,
I
know
why
it
was
lower
is
because
originally
the
the
concept
for
Channelside
was
to
be.
You
know
little
three-story,
four-story
buildings
and
and
and
obviously
over
the
last
decade
or
so
we've
gotten
away
from
that
concept,
which
is
fine
so
now
channel
side
is
more
or
less
just
the
eastern
extension
of
downtown,
which
is
also
fine
and
there's
great
progress
over
there.
But
I
guess
they
asked
the
question
out
of
fairness.
J
K
Okay,
so
I
followed
up
with
Cathy,
coil
and
downtown
is
covered
by
a
DRI
and
channel
districts,
not
part
of
that.
So
the
reason
for
us
being
able
to
do
what
we
did
in
downtown
and
why
those
are
is
a
DRI
governs
that
so
Channel
district
is
a
more
traditional,
so
that
obviously,
would
have
to
go
through
its
normal
process.
K
G
For
discussion
today,
but
in
Prior
meetings,
we
talked
about
the
importance
of
affordable
housing
and
CRA
s,
and
when
we
talk
about
strategic
planning
and
the
executive
director-
and
we
think
I'm
sure
that
will
come
up
but
I
would
just
ask
all
of
you
to
think
about
how
you
can
put
some
elements
of
housing,
affordable,
housing
in
your
workforce,
housing
in
your
markets
and-
and
we
can
all
talk
to
you
offline
about
that.
But
sometime
in
the
next
few
months,
I
think
we
need
to
come
back
to
it.
G
I
was
just
with
the
Tampa
Chamber
and
in
Charlotte,
and
you
know
they
set
ending
poverty
as
a
as
an
important
criteria
for
their
community
and
also
affordable
housing
and
they're
they're
behind
also,
but
I
think
we
need
to
use
every
tool
we
have
and
that
I
know
the
mayor's
got
a
task
force
focused
on
that.
But
we
have
resources
in
these
CRA
s
that
we
can
use
and
an
example
is
the
work
in
around
the
Publix
to
get
that
done.
G
C
D
Point
mr.
Carlson
I
have
several
friends
that
have
built
in
downtown
in
in
Channelside
and
if
they
need
tell
me
is
that
they
have
their
market
rate,
but
there's
no
incentive,
and
if
the
cia's
have
this
type
of
money
in
there,
these
people
are
building
I.
Think
we
look
at
looking
at
some
incentives
to
be
able
to
get
affordable
housing
in
some
of
these
major
developments
in
downtown
and
in
channel
the
channel
district,
when
no
one
has
to
notice,
affordable
housing,
all
they
know
is
someone's
running
an
apartment.
D
I
know
some
people
have
this
NIMBY
theory,
not
in
my
backyard
theory,
but
you
don't
know
how
to
know.
What's
in
your
backyard,
if
you
don't
suppose
in
your
backyard,
just
people
that
are
renting
an
apartment,
so
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
the
money
that
we
have
in
DC
Ras
to
be
the
give
incentives
to
some
of
these
developers
who
have,
and
then
housing,
market
and
that'll
help
with
some
of
the
crises
that
we
do
have.
G
About
about
20,
this
is
more
directed
mr.
Pinnock
about
20
years
ago.
Well,
back
in
the
90s
I
was
on
the
Downtown
Housing
Committee
of
the
st.
Pete
chamber,
and
we
kept
hitting
the
wall
and
trying
to
get
downtown
housing.
And
finally,
we
pulled
together
a
group
of
developers,
because
the
theory
was
that
developers
in
Florida
at
that
time
only
knew
greenfield
development,
and
then
we
brought
developers
from
Chicago
and
other
places
to
to
talk
to
him.
It
turned
out
this
one
of
the
Chicago
people.
G
But
they
felt
like
it
wasn't
a
level
playing
field
inside
the
city
that
they
didn't
get
fair
access
inside
the
city
and
and
I
know
you're,
changing
all
that
the
new
mayor's
changing
all
that,
but
I
was
just
thinking.
Maybe
we
should.
Besides
the
task
force
in
the
committee
that
the
mayor
has
maybe
joint
city
CRA
conversation
with
all
the
developers
who
want
to
develop
and
just
have
a
Congress
with
them
about
what
we
could
do,
what
resource
we
have.
We
have
lots
of
different
resources.
G
A
M
I
want
to
build
on
that
in
councilman,
Carlson,
good,
very
good
point.
In
fact,
somebody
brought
that
up.
You
wouldn't
have
been
there
because
you
couldn't
be
there,
but
when
I
was
speaking
at
cafe
in
Tampa-
and
somebody
actually
brought
up
this
very
issue
and
and
I
think
it's
something
that's
very
important.
The
overall
issues
that
we
have
to
change
the
the
assumption
or
the
presumption
that
residential
housing
in
downtown
Tampa
is
going
to
be
for
people
who
are
more
affluent.
C
M
J
But
the
reason
I
mention
it
is
that
specifically
can
and
does
relate
to
affordable
housing,
because
if
you
under
the
current
codes,
there's
incentive
there
for
developers
they
can
get,
they
can
get
bonus,
FA
RS
if
they
do
some
affordable
housing,
that's
one
of
the
opportunities
and
if
you
give
them
the
FA
are
without
without
you
know,
otherwise,
creating
any
incentive
package
or
anything
like
that.
Then
then
there's
then
there's
not
really
a
lot
of
incentive
for
them
to
do
that.
So
I
appreciate
I,
appreciate,
counsel,
continue
in
this
discussion.
N
My
solicitor
idea
you're
never
going
to
solve
what
we
from
we
have
the
word
we're
doing
it
he's
gonna,
take
a
long
long
time
and
it's
gonna
be
help.
Gonna
need
help
from
the
outside
sources.
Individuals
who
can
pull
money
together
to
have
the
loans
available
to
build
the
houses
at
about
three
percent
interest
and
there's
a
lot
of
people
in
Tampa,
I,
don't
know
if
it's
legal
I
know
it's
not
legal
to
ask
the
citizens
to
hold
a
bond
for
the
city
yeah.
N
You
can
text
them
to
desk,
but
you
can
ask
for
a
loan
and
pay
them
interest
what
a
country.
So
when
you
look
at
these
things-
and
you
start
to
realize,
how
do
you
solve
this
massive
problem
that
wasn't
created
overnight
taking
years
to
get
here
and
the
problem
is
as
more
people
come
in
and
less
houses
are
built,
the
price
of
value
goes
up
when
you
can
buy
a
lot
10
years
ago
for
twenty
five
thousand
that
same
line.
N
N
N
That's
a
human
being
you're
not
going
to
solve
this
problem.
This
problem
will
never
be
solved
by
government.
Never,
first
of
all,
you
don't
have
enough
land.
You
know
you
save
you
a
bill,
you're,
not
the
only
fooling
yourself,
not
the
people.
People
know
your
food
already
when
you
start
talking
about
it.
So.
N
Back
and
how
do
you
solve
this
problem?
You're
not
gonna,
solve
it
today.
You're
gonna
need
a
10
year
program
and
work
to
that
program
to
the
end
and
still,
then
you
go
for
short,
but
you're
gonna
benefit
many
people.
So
in
order
to
do
that,
you
got
to
see
it's
legally
possible
set
up
a
subcommittee,
madam
yeah,
not
if
nobody
government
individual
anybody
in
the
audience
anybody's
listening.
N
You
want
to
put
on
a
thousand
fifty
thousand
and
get
that
back
at
them
at
three
percent
in
the
city
or
government,
whatever
it
is,
controls
the
action
of
it.
You're
not
gonna,
solve
housing
problems,
the
way
we're
attacking
it.
Never
unless
you
have
a
mass
amount
of
money
by
individuals
who
have
money,
who's
willing
to
participate
and
I.
Think
there's
a
lot
of
once.
You
start
speaking
about
it.
You'll
have
something
some
impact
where
you
gonna
solve
a
hunt
percent
I,
doubt
it,
but
you're
certainly
gonna
reach
the
people
that
need
it.
A
Anything
else
if
I
may
add
to
that
I
know.
One
thing
is
for
sure
our
downtown
is
growing
and
I
know
the
SPP
project
is
gonna,
bring
a
minimum
minimum
of
three
thousand
people
to
the
downtown
area.
With
that
you
are
gonna
need
the
lawyers
you
are
gonna
need
the
jewelers.
You
are
going
to
need
the
grocery
store.
You
are
gonna
need
the
hairstylist.
You're
gonna
need
the
shoe
repair
people
and
people
from
East
Hillsborough
County
from
North
Hillsborough
County
are
not
going
to
travel.
All
this
way.
A
K
That's
okay,
Tampa
Heights.
Our
direct
activities
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
we've
done
is
to
help
program
the
areas
like
you,
the
areas
around
you,
ladies
at
waterworks
park
and
some
of
the
street
festivals.
They
want
to
do
there.
We
they
wanted
to
create
a
event
co-sponsorship
very
similar
to
downtown,
we'll,
be
bringing
that
to
you
next
month.
K
They
did
about
to
do
that
with
some
limitations
that
are
different
than
theirs
in
direct
activity,
so
capital
loans,
most
property
there
has
done
announced
sprouts
as
part
of
their
grocery
store
and
it's
part
of
their
permitted
garage
that'll
be
a
hotel
going
on
above
that
right
near
the
heights.
Union
Building
and
the
Pearl
apartments
are
complete
and
the
corner
park
is
under
construction.
I
haven't
visited
to
see
if
it's
100%
complete
yet,
but
it
should
be.
K
They
have
a
new
Co
workspace
called
Bay
3
that
launched
this
past
year.
Noble
events
is
the
the
Heights
Market
opened
a
new
rooftop
bar
called
the
bar,
and
they
also
have
stone
stro,
which
is
out
there
on
Riverwalk
and
they've
improved
the
entrance
to
the
north
part
of
the
park.
As
part
of
that
and
they
opened
on
July
23rd,
any
questions.
A
K
Then
Central
Park
apologize,
Central,
Park
there's
the
direct
activities
we
had
was
a
I'm
sorry
for
oh,
no,
the
Meacham
community
garden.
They
voted
to
program
twenty
thousand
dollars
to
help
with
the
education
component
of
that
and
we're
working
with
the
housing
authority.
Who's
got
that
super
meeting
this
time.
So
then
indirect
activities
encore
Tampa
as
they
submitted
an
incremental
site
plan
for
another
two
hundred
eighty
two
units
on
lot:
nine
we'd
haven't
seen
the
actual
developer,
come
with
that,
but
they
have
some
preliminary
plans.
K
K
We
work
with
them
regularly
because
we
paid
to
do
the
CRA
plan
and
to
do
that
and
our
partnership
with
them
was
for
them
to
develop
these.
This
mixed
income
and
mixed
housing
before
doing
that,
and
then
they
would
market
the
other
Lots
and
then
so.
We
paid
for
construction
plans
for
the
infrastructure
and
then
paid
for
the
plan
for
CRA
plan
and
that's
what
we
just
recently
paid
off
the
debt
for
and.
D
Again,
I
say
this
because
again
I
you
know:
I
talked
to
a
bunch
of
people
and
they're
saying
there's
so
much
property
there
that
who's
inviting
them
to
come
in
to
try
to
build
their
I
mean
there's
so
much
property
that
you
can
have
more
buildings
on
that
property
for
workforce
housing.
So
I'm
just
wondering
again,
we
got
to
put
the
foot
on
the
gas
and
put
some
stuff
out
to
some
people
to
entice
them
to
come
in
and
build
on
that
property
he's
just
sitting
there.
D
We
can't
just
let
stuff
just
sit
there
and
sit
there
and
sit
there.
We
gotta
push
the
needle
and
get
things
out
to
people,
so
people
can
come
in
and
bite
on
it
to
build,
but
several
developers
I
was
right.
Now
the
day
was
like
that
that
property
over
to
me,
that
needs
to
be
developing
it's
just
sitting
there.
So
what
is
the
future
for
them?
Well,.
K
If
you
talk
with
Leroy
Moore
with
the
housing
authority
he's
in
charge
of
recruiting
those
and
they've
had
a
lot
of
them
year,
you
know
complete
deals:
either
they've
fallen
through
or
they
didn't.
They
didn't
take
the
debate
on
it
or
bite
on
it.
So
there
have
been
some
that
we've
been
informed
of
and
that
you
know
we're
able
to
help
with
what
we
can,
but
with
them
controlling
the
property.
K
G
Along
the
same
lines
that
I
get
asked
about
that
property
all
the
time
and
why
it
hasn't
been
developed,
it's
you
know
that
the
other
parts
of
it
were
developed
a
long
time
ago
and
folks
wonder
why
it's
not
not
developed
and
I
know
this.
Is
you
just
explained?
It's
not
your
issue,
but
it
on
the
chamber
trip
the
last
couple
days.
People
were
asking
me
about
that
land
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
believe
that
we
should
set
up.
G
A
J
Just
following
up
on
both
of
these
last
comments:
Rob
and
mr.
Bennett,
why
don't
we
respectfully
ask
Leroy
Moore
from
the
housing
authority
to
come,
join
us
next
to
give
us
an
update
on
that
important
project.
I
think
there
are
some
legitimate
questions:
I
respect,
mr.
Moore
and
and
everybody
over
at
the
housing
authority
tremendously.
J
A
Yes,
councilman
Dix
elder
I
truly
agree
with
you,
but
we
have
to
make
sure
that
there's
properties
that
built
correctly
the
first
time
one
of
the
buildings
over
there
had
to
be
redone
and
I'm
wondering
why
that
had
to
be
done
should
have
been
done
properly.
The
first
time,
but
that's
that's
a
different
statement.
Thank.
C
C
G
I
didn't
Genda
number
three
I
would
move
that
we
moved
this
to
November
14th
I
met
with
staff.
I
think
you
all
did
as
well,
and
the
idea
here
was
that
we
passed
the
the
renewal
of
the
outsource
agreement
between
the
CRA
and
the
city
with
one
of
the
provisions
being
that
we
would
edit
the
18
items
in
the
contract
and
I
met
with
staff
the
other
day.
I
think
it's
just
gonna
take
another
week
or
so
to
finish
it.
G
A
L
Good
morning,
chair
and
CRA
board
members,
Michelle
of
a
Monique
and
I,
make
an
urban
development,
and
if
we
can
have
the
thank
you
so
much
and
you
realize
I
was
gonna,
look
so
shiny
up
there.
Thank
God
I
have
a
PowerPoint,
so
we
are
responding
as
a
staff
report
to
your
motion
to
have
a
strategic
planning
workshop.
L
So
what
we're
proposing
is
to
for
our
workshops,
we're
not
saying
you
have
to
go
for
hours
free
workshop,
but
we
want
to
give
you
time
to
have
your
discussion
and
a
less
formal
give-and-take
type
of
environment.
Also
time
for
breaks
in
there.
We're
looking
at
only
three
topics
for
each
session
and
what
we're
looking
at
is
the
first
session.
We
want
to
come
to
you
and
just
very
briefly,
go
over
with
you.
What
is
it
than
163
mandates
so
that
we
can
put
context
into
163
and
again
not
just
throw
legal
language
at
you.
L
We
would
talk
about
the
limitations
on
TIF
and
how
we
spend
again
a
very
brief
relatable
explanation
of
these
item
ins
items
and
then
talk
about
our
community
redevelopment
plans.
There's
a
lot
of
talk
about
strategic
action
plans,
community
redevelopment
plans.
What's
the
difference,
what
do
they
mean
what's
required
again
by
the
state
statute,
and
how
do
they
fit
into
how
you
operate
is
the
CRA
board
and
how
we
operate
out
here
within
the
CRA
s
themselves,
and
then
we
would
like
to
then
once
you've
had
that
was
sort
of
briefings.
L
L
What
you
see
is
missing
what
priorities,
what
focus
is
missing
and
what
would
you
like
us
to
start
focusing
on,
so
we
want
that
first
workshop
to
sort
of
set
the
stage
for
you,
then,
to
come
back
for
our
second
workshop
and
talk
about
and
develop
your
goals
as
the
CRA
agency
board
itself.
What
are
your
goals
for
yourselves
and
for
the
CRA
you've
talked
several
times
and
make
comments
about
priding,
providing
direction
and
guidance
to
the
CRA
CRA
managers,
the
staff
and
to
the
CA
C's,
the
CA
C's,
the
Community
Advisory
Committee.
L
They
act
as
your
subcommittees
they're
your
specialized
subcommittees
tasked
with
the
individual
geographic
locations
to
come
back
and
bring
their
recommendations
to
you,
similar
to
a
housing
subcommittee
or
any
other
type
of
subcommittee.
So
what
is
your
direction
and
what
kind
of
direction
do
you
want
to
give
them?
L
So
we
want
to
provide
that
opportunity
again
in
a
less
formal
setting,
for
you
guys
to
be
able
to
set
those
priorities
and
to
adopt
them
as
your
own
goals
and
objectives
and
again
I
mentioned
you
guys,
have
brought
up
some
questions,
legal
questions
about
the
operations
of
the
CRA
agency,
and
we
again
want
to
incorporate
that.
So
we
will
have
a
brief
session
to
address.
You've
had
several
inquiries
about.
How
do
we
dissolve
a
CRA?
What
does
it
take?
What's
the
process,
and
how
do
we
look
at
doing
that?
What's
a
timing
for
that?
L
So,
let's
have
that
discussion,
but
again
not
strictly
as
a
legal
discussion,
but
within
context
of
how
we
all
operate.
And
lastly,
this
is
that
second
motion:
we
need
to
have
a
discussion
with
you.
What
is
it
that
you're
looking
at
we
can't
in
a
vacuum,
come
back
to
you
and
say
here's
what
we
recommend
for
your
executive
director.
So
we
want
that
give-and-take
discussion
with
all
of
you.
What
is
it
that
you're
trying
to
address
with
this
position?
What
roles
and
responsibilities
are
to
have?
L
What
processes
where
we
looked
at
having,
so
that
we
can
better
to
find
that
within
our
legal
framework,
and
then
we
can
come
back
with
okay.
This
is
our
process.
This
is
how
we
partner
to
get
this
issue
resolved
and
create
what
you
are
looking
for
that
meets
your
needs.
So
that's
in
a
big
nutshell.
What
we're
looking
at
doing
and
now
I.
A
B
Want
to
point
out,
as
Michelle
mentioned,
we
also
have
the
ability
to
roll
these
together.
If
we
think
we
won't
tighten
the
agenda
and
one
date
that
we've
already
is,
we
don't
want
to
drag
things
out
to
the
point
that
we've
all
talked
about.
We
want
to
keep
moving,
so
there
was
a
date
of
October
28th.
We
just
want
to
socialize
with
you
as
an
opportunity
if
calendar
is
permitted
to
get
this
this
session.
B
A
B
Would
we
would
budget
for
hours
and
then,
as
Michelle
mentioned?
If
we
need
a
second
one,
then
we
could
look
in
and
socialize
a
date
for
the
second
version.
So
we
could
combine
those
agendas
to
start
with
and
if
we
couldn't
get
done
in
the
four
hours,
then
we
would
look
for
a
subsequent
date.
Maybe
it
would
only
need
two
more
hours
after
that.
C
G
G
On
the
on
the
background
you're
proposing
for
workshop
number,
one
I
would
ask
that
you
limit
that
to
a
half
hour
hour,
we've
been
through
it
legal
briefing
on
the
CRA
s,
we've
I
think
we've
all
read:
163
I
passed
out
the
grand
jury
report
from
Miami
we've
all
sat
through
other
seminars
on
CRA
s.
We
don't
know
as
much
as
the
CRA
managers
but
I
I.
G
Think
if
you
all
have
other
information
that
you
want
us
to
read
or
see
in
advance,
send
it
to
us,
and
then
we
can
have
a
briefing
on
what
we
learned,
but
sitting
through
a
two
or
three
hour
lecture
would
would
be
horrible
and
especially
since
we
probably
know
80%
of
what
is
gonna
be
presented,
it's.
It
should
be
more
of
hitting
the
highlights
discussion,
asking
questions
about
filling
in
the
gaps
on
the
on
some
of
these.
G
These
other
issues,
I
really
would
like
the
result
of
whatever
this
process,
the
planning
process
to
be
some
kind
of
plan,
and
maybe
it's
a
two-page
plan.
Maybe
it's
a
ten
page
plan
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
longer
than
that,
but
it
there
should
be
a
set
plan.
That
has
criteria-
and
you
mentioned
there's
verbally,
but
it's
not
on
the
list.
G
Besides
dissolving
CRA
s,
lots
of
community
leaders
have
given
me
feedback
that,
maybe,
instead
of
dissolving
them,
we
could
look
at
just
capping
them
figuring
out
what
our
current
obligations
are
on
some
of
them
or
what
we
think
the
obligations
are
going
to
be
in
the
next
few
years
and
then
and
then
set
a
cap
above
which
the
money
could
go
back
in
the
general
fund.
And
if
one
of
the
arguments
against
doing
that
is
that
the
county
money
also
goes
in
this,
then
we
can
propose
an
interlocal
agreement
of
the
county.
G
My
philosophy
on
CRA
s
is
that
there
they're
there
they
give
it
the
wrong
incentive
to
focus
on
real
estate.
They
they
force
the
rest
of
the
city
to
subsidize
those
areas
and
in
it,
and
it
shows
a
lack
of
trust
in
government.
The
purpose
of
a
CRA
really
is
that
you
don't
trust
the
government
to
spend
money
in
an
area
where
you
think
it
needs
to
be
spent.
G
You
know
there's
a
discussion
right
now
about
the
USF
area
and
I
think
we're
going
to
have
a
presentation
on
that
soon
and
I've,
given
feedback
to
mark
and
others.
I
think.
The
last
thing
we
should
do
is
create
a
CRA
up
there.
What
we
should
do
is
have
the
discipline
to
partner
with
the
city
and
county
to
to
send
to
to
make
the
changes
and
improvements
that
are
necessary
out
there.
G
We
don't
have
to
trap
money
in
an
area
to
do
it
and
in
some
of
the
ones
downtown,
even
though
I'm
a
big
supporter
of
downtown,
it's
very
unfair
that
the
rest
of
the
city,
subsidizes
basic
services
in
those
areas
and
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
guidelines
we
need
to
put
in
our
strategic
plan
when
we
give
feedback
is
that
this
is
not
money
in
in
in
this
it.
Let's
take
channel
site,
for
example,
or
downtown
it's
not
money
in
the
area.
G
That
is,
that
is
the
money
of
that
area
that
is
being
spent
in
that
area.
It
is
the
money
of
the
entire
city
that
the
rest
of
the
city
is
not
the
city.
The
rest
of
the
city
is
subsidizing
the
basic
services
in
the
area
allowing
that
money
to
be
there,
and
we
have
to
be
good
custodians
of
how
that
money
is
spent,
and
so
that's
that's
a
lot
of
where
I'm
coming
from
I
think
the
mindset
has
got
to
be
not
that.
Well,
it's
our
money.
G
We
have
to
spin
it
the
way
we
want
on
what
we
want
it.
We
should
get
input,
but
we
have
to
be
thinking
about
what
the
sacrifice
is
that
the
rest
of
the
city
is
making
for
the
CRA
is
to
exist
and
we
have
to
be
good
custodians
of
the
money.
The
last
thing
is
the
executive
director
I
think
we
should
move
very
quickly
on
that,
but
I
agree
with
you
that
we
need
to
get
criteria.
Ideally,
we'd
use
some
kind
of
search,
firm
and
I.
G
Don't
know
the
current
status
of
the
the
head
of
economic
development
I've
been
giving
some
some
feedback
to
to
staff
about
what
kind
of
person
I
think
should
be
in
there.
But
if
we're
doing
a
search
for
that
person,
we
might
want
to
do
them
in
conjunction
with
each
other.
Then
I
don't
know
if
we'd
have
to
pay
an
executive
search
firm
twice
or
if
they
could
do
a
similar
kind
of
search.
B
Just
want
to
give
some
feedback
to
that.
We
do
have
that
capability.
We
do
want
the
inclusivity
of
counsel
in
that
search
process
and
the
development
of
the
language
for
that
social
process.
So
we're
very
amenable
to
that.
We
just
thought
that
conjoining
that
to
the
strategic
workshop
would
bring
out
some
of
those
descriptors
on.
G
The
legal
aspect
of
it
sorry
to
hold
the
floor
somewhat,
but
on
the
legal
aspect
of
it,
I
proposed
that
maybe
we
that
the
CRA
would
pay
the
city
council
staff
budget
and
then
we
would
just
hire
the
CRA
person
out
of
the
City
Council
budget,
like
we
do
with
Marty
and
and
the
legislative
aides.
Did
you
all
get
an
illegal
feedback
on
that.
O
G
A
proposed
change
so
McDonough.
What
we
did
is
we
approved
the
budget.
The
way
it
was
so
the
city
can
still
use
if
the
money
that
was
in
there
for
half
Obama
gonna
is
still
in
that
1.7
million.
But
what
what
I
proposed
anyway
was
that
we
have
a
separate
CRA
executive
director
that
would
be
paid
out
of
ideally
paid
out
a
city
council
budget,
but
it
would
be
funded
by
the
CRA
and
it
would
be
a
separate
position
all
together,
because
we
need
somebody
to
focus
on
CRA
s
100%
of
the
time.
G
Also,
if
we
have
the
accountability
and
responsibility
for
the
decisions
made
in
the
series,
then
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
person
reporting
to
us
is
is
reporting
to
us
and
then,
and
then
also.
Ideally,
it
would
save
time
for
the
CRA
managers,
because
City
Council's
sitting
as
a
CRA
would
only
have
one
person
really
to
deal
with
instead
of
having
instead
of
the
managers
having
to
have
seven
meetings
on
every
issue.
A
Your
question:
why
can't
this
be
done
in
a
half-hour?
This
is
a
prime
example
why
it
can't
be
done
in
this,
in
my
opinion,
should
be
discussed
at
a
workshop
that
should
probably
take
about
two
hours
three
hours.
These
are
things
that
we
can
discuss
then,
and
there
well
and
I've,
been
listening
to
you
for
a
long
time
talking
about
CRH,
but
this
this
board
just
reaffirms
what
the
CRA
boards
bring
to
us.
The
decisions
that
the
CRA
boards
bring
to
us
are
percolated
from
the
community
to
the
committees
to
the
boards
to
us.
G
You'd
see
it
my
understanding
of
laws,
it's
the
other
way
around.
We
allow
the
or
we
ask
the
CA
C's
to
give
us
feedback,
but
we
set
the
guidelines.
We
could
just
make
the
decisions
to
to
fund
these.
The
way
we
want,
and
my
my
argument
is
that
we
need
to
give
them
guidelines
as
I
go
around
to
meet
in
the
community.
G
What
I'm
suggesting
is
a
half
hour
only
on
the
review
of
the
the
law
and
the
existing
guidelines,
a
four
hour
workshop
on
planning
I'm,
totally
in
favor
of
and
discussion
on,
what
kind
of
person
how
on
the
executive
director
that
might,
as
you
said,
take
an
hour
to
by
itself.
I'm
just
wanted
to
ask
the
question
see
if
you
all
do
any
research
on
it,
declutter.
A
Hang
on
one
second
I'll
give
you
term
thank
you
and
in
councilman
beer,
then
Michelle.
Please,
can
you
come
up
to
the
Elector
in?
Please
then,
can
we
talk
about
the
the
first
bring
you
on
the
the
council's?
It's
going
to
be
the
director
for
us
on
October,
28th
and
discuss
that
for
half
hour
hour
and
then
go
into
the
workshop.
A
L
J
Couple
of
thoughts
number
one
Michelle
and
John
I
appreciate
this
proposal.
I
agree
with
mr.
Bennett
I
think
we
can
consolidate
all
of
this
into
a
three
or
four
hour
workshop.
However,
you
and
the
chair
set
it
up
in
terms
of
sequence:
I'll
leave
that
up
to
the
chair,
in
my
opinion,
there's
at
the
workshop
we
do
need
to
resolve,
or
at
least
go
into
discussion
about
the
tail
wagging
the
dog
and
the
dog
wagging
the
tail,
and
mr.
J
chairman,
you
kind
of
alluded
to
that,
as,
as
did
some
of
the
other
members
in
regard
to
the
role
of
the
CAC
Michelle
said
a
few
minutes
ago.
I
believe
you
know
that
they
under
law,
they
make
recommendations
to
us,
and
then
we,
then
we
wrestle
with
those
recommendations
and
I
stress
that
word
and
and
I
think
that
that's
extremely
relevant
to
certain
things
that
are
going
on
in
the
community
right
now.
Yes,
we
need
to
take
those
recommendations
very
seriously,
but
I
think
this
body
needs
to
decide.
J
You
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
you
know
who's
in
charge
of
these
final
decisions
and
that's
not
for
today,
but
that's
clearly
a
big
your
discussion
for
this
workshop.
The
mr.
cross
I
wanted
to
respond
to
one
thing,
I
hear
where
you're
coming
from.
In
regard
to
especially
you,
you
made
reference,
it's
a
channel
side
downtown.
That's
what
I
think,
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
really
careful
about.
One
size
doesn't
fit
all
because
we
really,
in
my
opinion,
we
have
different
animals
different
animals
out
there.
J
In
regard
to
this,
the
the
different
CRA
districts,
they're,
very
different,
and
that
that
has
popped
up
in
in
in
the
context
of
the
facade,
you
know,
improvements
that
sort
of
thing
might
not
be
a
good
fit
for
downtown,
but
out
in
West
Anthony's
camp.
That
seems
to
be
working
so
I
think
we
when
again
philosophically,
when
we
get
into
this
workshop,
I,
think
we
need
to
wrestle
with
that
a
little
bit
because
I
hear
where
you're
coming
from
on
downtown
and
Channelside.
J
You
know,
maybe
we
need
to
tinker
with
the
the
whole
that
whole
picture,
but
out
there
in
East,
Tampa
and
West
Tampa,
and
some
of
those
other
drew
Park,
etcetera.
Some
of
those
other
districts
I
think
it's
very.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense
that
the
money
that's
generated,
then
in
those
districts
stays
in
those
digital,
because
those
districts
have
a
long
way
to
go
so
so
I
think
I
just
wanted
to
throw
that
out.
J
In
regard
to
dissolving
CRA
s,
I
think
you
kind
of
nip
that
one
in
the
bud
bill,
but
but
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful
on
that
and
and
when
we
talk
about
that,
let's
not
only
get
a
legal
analysis,
but
also
a
policy
perspective
on
the
pros
and
cons
of
the
dissolution
CRA
s
are
not
easy
to
come
by
and
once
we
have
them,
we
need
to
be
really
careful
about
about
their
futures.
Thank
you.
Mister.
A
M
You
mr.
chair
and
I
also
wanted
to
respond
to
the
comments
by
my
friend
and
all
the
councilman
Carlson.
I
of
them
are
very
well
taken
and
I
can
agree
with
a
lot
of
them,
but
I
think
as
an
overall
narrative.
We
have
to
be
careful
to
not
do
how
shall
I
put
this
Tallahassee's
work
for
them.
You
know
we
know
that
tallahassee
has
an
agenda
whenever
it
comes
to
CRA
s.
Tallahassee
is
looking
for
wrongdoers
and
CRS,
and
if
they
can't
find
them,
then
they
will
find
them
where
there
are
good
CRA
s.
M
We
know
that
the
the
city
of
Tampa
CRA
czar,
generally
speaking,
very
good,
very
good,
they're,
very
well-run
as
a
general
rule
and
to
the
extent
they're
not
being
well-run,
there's
more
making
improvements,
because
we
have
a
very,
very
good
system.
While
there
were
improvements
that
certainly
could
be
made,
we
have
to
be
careful
that
again
we're
not
doing
Tallahassee's
work
for
them.
M
The
general
idea
of
the
CRA,
which
is
to
find
areas
in
a
community
that
are
blighted
where
you
can
have
some
targeted
impacts
economically
made
on
those
communities
through
a
taxable
increase
in
those
particular
communities,
is
one
that
is
still
worthy.
You
know,
I
know.
Councilman
Carlson
mentioned
the
USF
ferry
I'd,
certainly
like
something
for
the
USF
area,
something
down
the
line
for
our
friends
in
Sulphur
Springs
as
well.
We
got
to
be
careful
not
to
CRA
the
whole
city.
M
You
know
that's
always
at
risk
right,
but
in
other
words,
that
is
a
tool
that
I
think
is
very
effective.
I,
don't
think
that
if
it's
correct
to
look
at
it,
as
as,
if
we
subsidize
one
part
of
the
city
by
another
part
of
the
city,
what
we're
doing
is,
by
definition
taking
areas
that
are
blighted
where
the
collective
gets
together
and
helps
make
economic
impacts
in
those
areas.
M
I,
don't
look
at
it
as
some
a
distribution
of
city
wealth
from
one
part
to
the
other,
I
look
at
it
as
if
the
city
coming
together,
in
effect,
to
help
provide
it
areas
in
to
the
extent
that
this
has
to
do
with
trust
with
government.
Again,
we
don't
want
to
subsidize
Tallahassee's
gross
mistrust
of
cities,
of
which
we've
just
begin
to
see
with
some
CRA
laws
that
have
been
passed
and
some
ones
that
have
been
proposed
and
they're
developing
political
legs.
Let's
not
help
those
political,
that's
my
only
caution,
Thank.
D
You
know,
as
a
person
who
had
a
little
time
on
a
CRA
and
I've
gone
to
other
CRA
meetings.
They
all
operate
differently,
each
template
being
one
of
the
most
unique
ones.
I've
ever
seen.
You've
got
a
CAC
board
who
makes
recognitions
to
this
body.
Then
you
have
years
ago
a
community
type
board,
but
really
don't
really
have
the
power,
but
just
make
a
recommendation.
They
want
to
the
CC
will,
but
actually
the
CC
board
is
the
one
is
empowered
to
come
to
this
body
to
make
a
decision
by
definition.
D
Mister
Carson
is
right
that
this
board
is
empowered
to
make
those
decisions,
but
the
way
it's
written.
We
allow
our
CC
boards
to
bring
those
recommendations
to
us.
My
biggest
concern
that
I
want
to
make
sure
we
put
the
foot
on
the
gas
on
is
to
hire
an
exec
director.
I
believe
I
spoke
to
me.
It's
been
long
yesterday,
a
reference
to
that
and
I
believe
that
you
can't
have
two
masters
I
think
that's
been
kind
of
the
problem
a
little
bit
when
talking
to
a
lot
of
the
CEC
boards.
D
Look
at
you
can't
have
one
body
here,
not
a
body
here
and
yeah.
You
have
your
managers
who
look
at
the
CRA
board
as
a
master,
but
they
look
at
the
city
as
the
ultimate
master
that
doesn't
work
well,
I,
look
at
having
it
as
a
director
whose
answers
to
this
board
is
the
liaison
with
whoever
the
city
hires
and
have
a
working
relationship.
D
I
believe
the
managers
have
to
be
at
an
area
to
where
they're,
like
legislative
agents
and
they're
answering
directly
to
that
executive
director
who's,
giving
them
direction
who's
working
in
conjunction
with
the
the
city
person
I.
Just
think
again,
you
can't
have
two
different
bodies
in
and
expect
it
to
be,
to
be
perfect.
I.
D
B
Last
time
to
you
to
make
to
give
you
that
decision,
support
that
you
need
to
do
the
best
things
for
the
community
in
the
priorities
of
what
this
funding
and
the
strategic
action
plans
have
brought
us
and
I
think
we're
gonna
see
a
lot
of
growth
out
of
the
strategic
workshop
in
that
space.
I
think
the
collective
energy
in
this
room
to
give
us
the
right
framework
to
hire
the
right
person
recruit
nationally
internationally.
B
Whatever
it
takes,
the
only
question
I
would
have
left
on
this
motion
item
is
we
feel
comfortable
as
a
staff
that
we
can
internally
facilitate
this
for
hours,
but
there
is
also
an
option
to
look
for
an
outside
facilitator,
but
I'm
not
sure
we
could
that's
just
another
voice
that
we
would
have
to
transfer
all
this
information
to
and
then
try
and
get
somebody
here
by
the
28th
I.
Don't
think
it's
the
best
option,
but
I
don't
want
to
leave
it
off
the
table,
since
it
is
an
option.
D
I
mean
up
I
mean
whatever
the
board
is
sighs
I'm
going
to
be
a
part
of
get
the
information
have
discussion,
so
Irv
there's
an
hour
three
hours
or
four
hours.
It
really
doesn't
matter
to
me.
I'll
go
along
with
the
consensus
of
the
board,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
start
moving
putting
the
foot
on
the
gas.
Now
we
can't
be
waiting
waiting
waiting.
B
N
Miranda,
thank
you
for
chairman.
You
know,
as
I've
said
before,
as
long
as
I'm
here,
whatever
that
link
the
time,
maybe
I
would
not
vote
for
another
CI
rate
of
one
started
anywhere
in
the
city,
and
it's
got
various
reason.
I'll
explain.
Last
year
was
25
million
off
the
budget.
The
city
of
Tampa
general
fund
25,
keep
it
going
on,
were
you
gonna
have
50,
and
then
what
are
you
gonna
say
or
they?
My
fault
I
gave
it
out
to
the
CRA
they're
supposed
to
be
handling
it.
N
We
got
elected
to
be
responsible
now
that
we're
not
we
are,
but
you
can't
continue
going
down
this
road
and
saying
this
is
what
happened
when
the
general
public
pays
taxes
and
the
CRA
s
after
that
minimum
goes
up.
Is
there's
that
general
public
who
does
not
have
a
CRA
is
an
essence
subsidizing
the
CRA.
You
can
look
at
it
any
way
you
want
legally
financially,
it
comes
out
two
dollars
and
they're
not
getting
the
benefit.
They
should
get
other
text
dollars
and
I
understand
about
blight
and
I.
Understand
that
you
need
to
face
it.
N
You
got
to
do
it
and
I've
heard
things
about
the
downtown,
and
this
than
the
other,
when
you
become
failure,
is
when
you
try
to
solve
all
the
problems
at
once.
Can't
do
it
so
years
ago,
this
city
that
have
anything
going
for
it
now
we're
arguing
because
we're
going
in
the
right
direction.
So
what
happens
is
this
was
short
it
one
downtown
downtown
and
what
was
shorty
staff
West
Hamlin,
this
one
they
want
and
what
you
have
is
failure.
So
what
why
did
they
do
downtown?
Why
do
you
have
you
heart
your
chest?
N
N
250,000
that
does
not
have
a
downtown
that
is
moving
forward
in
a
great
acceleration.
I'll
tell
you
how
many
they
are
none,
so
you
have
to
have
something
in
a
city
whether
it's
downtown
East
and
West.
A
far
south
Peppa
Melman
Heights
I,
don't
care
where
you
got
to
have
some
point.
That's
a
focal
point
of
that
city.
N
Streetcars
same
thing:
we
got
rid
up,
we
won
again
so
why'd
you
get
rid
of
life.
Is
nothing
but
a
circle,
and
it
keeps
following
you
around
very
simple
thing:
any
not
you
don't
have
to
be
smart
to
figure.
This
thing
out,
if
you
had
I,
wouldn't
be
saying
so
what
I'm
saying
is
you
got
to
understand
it?
Something
has
got
to
start
somewhere
so
that
the
public
can
see
it.
N
If
you
have
vast
areas
where
you
have
nothing
but
blight,
and
how
is
it
that
really
need
repair
and
you
fixed
one
in
one
corner
and
one
in
the
other
corner
and
in
four
corners
you
built
the
new
house,
but
one
ever
sees
it
no
one.
But
if
you
built
those
four
houses
in
one
block,
you
see
a
big
change.
People
recognize
it.
People
start
to
build
people
start
the
molle
grant.
People
feel
energized.
That's
why
you
had
to
do
downtown.
N
Just
what's
happening
now.
Look
at
the
Midtown
project!
Guess
what's
gonna
happen
at
the
West
Shore
hall,
you
think
that's
going
to
stay
like
it
is,
and
he
takers
an
out
gamble
on
it.
It's
gonna
have
to
change.
It's
gonna
change
to
something
vibrant.
It
was
vibrant
before
but
new
things
come
online.
N
Remember
when
you
went
to
the
hospital
how
to
board
your
needles
and
put
it
and
take
it
out.
They
don't
do
that.
No
more!
Why?
First
of
all
it's
too
costly?
Second
I've,
always
more
infection,
so
you
just
don't
have
the
needles
that
are
real,
easy
to
put
in
there,
throw
them
away
things
change.
My
hair
changed
everything.
A
G
Just
piggybacking
real
fast
on
what
councilman
Brenda
said:
I
wouldn't
vote
for
any
new
cra-z
thurr
I'm
very
committed
to
helping
all
parts
of
the
city,
and
one
of
the
parts
that
I've
spent
a
lot
of
volunteer
time
with
is
is
the
USF
area
and
Mark
sharps
group
I.
Just
don't
think
that
a
CRA
is
the
right
solution.
G
What
does
besides
trapping
the
money
and
making
everybody
else
subsidize
what
it
does
is
it
gives
an
incentive
for
real
estate
development.
So
the
only
way
you
put
get
money
to
put
into
a
CRA
is,
if
you
develop
real
estate,
because
then
you
get
the
the
tax
money
to
go
in
it.
I
don't
think
the
problem
in
the
USF
area
is
real
estate,
it's
poverty
and
it's
getting
connectivity
between
the
businesses
they're
there
and
the
and
the
research
that's
going
on,
and
so
how
do
we?
How
do
we
connect
the
dots
on
that?
G
How
do
we
build
the
organic
nature
of
things?
How
do
we
help
people
to
start
businesses
and
move
out
of
poverty?
Those
are
not
real
estate
development
issues,
and
so
you,
if
you
work
on,
what's
really
important
in
the
USF
area.
It's
not
going
to
result
in
high
ad
valorem
taxes
necessarily,
but
if
we
set
up
a
CRA,
we're
going
to
be
focused
on
a
valorem
taxes,
because
that's
how
we're
incentivized
and
what
I'd
rather
do
is
look
at.
G
We
could
set
up
a
something
like
a
CA
C
and
the
in
that
district
and
ask
the
community
to
come
back
and
give
us
advice
on
what
we
should
spend
money
on
to
help
like
beautifying,
Fowler
and
Busch
Boulevard,
and
then
we
can
ask
the
mayor
and
the
staff
to
to
fund
that
out
of
the
general
funds
or
other
we
don't
have
to
set
up
something
to
trap
it.
So
anyway,
we
can
talk
about
that
more
when
we
get
to
those
issues
just
to
respond
to
the
chief
of
stab
I.
G
A
J
You
just
structurally,
we
were
at
item
three
and
and
mr.
Carson
was
talking
about
revising
articles
of
the
18
different
provisions
in
the
contract.
It
seems
to
me
that
that
would
be
part
and
parcel
of
our
workshop.
J
G
I'm
fine
with
that
it,
the
more
discussion
we
have
on
any
of
this
stuff.
That's
fine
with
me.
My
only
my
main
objection
to
that
list
is
that
it's
very
real
estate
focused
and
what
I've
done
in
the
draft
that
we're
working
on
is
just
make
set
up
like
six
or
eight
buckets
of
things
that
we
could
do
right
now.
G
It
looks
almost
like
a
scope
of
work
and
it's
more
limiting
and
what
I,
what
I'd
rather
do,
is
put
the
buckets
to
make
it
to
make
it
kind
of
less
limiting
and
and
to
make
it
on
the
surface.
Look
look!
It's
less
focused
on
real
estate,
but
if
you
all,
as
they
come
back,
you
all
can
get
feedback
to
them
or
we
can
discuss
it
in
the
in
the
workshop
up
to
you.
A
C
A
G
A
O
If
I
may
I
think
that
clerk
wanted
to
interject
one
thing
that
you
need
to
be
aware
of
that
we
do
need
to
provide
notice
of
the
workshop.
We
do
need
to
ensure
that
it's
recorded.
We
do
need
to
make
it
open
to
the
public
to
attend,
not
necessarily
to
participate.
So
I
think
what
I
was
going
to
suggest
was
that
the
motion
include
language,
requiring
the
staff
to
coordinate
this.
P
B
J
C
A
G
Just
I
listened
to
what
you
said
a
few
minutes
ago
about
the
CAC
s
and
I
just
saw
everybody.
Listening
knows
I
think
it's
very
important
to
listen
to
the
community.
It's
my
business
to
engage
the
community
issues
and
so
I
definitely
think
we
should
listen
to
the
community
what
they
had
to
say.
With
that
in
mind,
can
we
clerk,
or
somebody
specifically
invite
all
the
CAC
members
of
all
the
districts?
I,
don't
know
if
that
gif
that's
allowed
for
sunshine,
but
if
we're
allowed
to
invite
all
of
them,
you
know
I
think
they
should.
G
A
O
G
O
Just
need
to
have
minutes
recorded
and
that's
something
that
you
may
want
to
discuss.
I
think
the
stop.
Con
concept
was
to
have
this
at
an
off-site
location
and
be
a
little
bit
more
casual,
a
little
bit
more
ability
to
have
dialogue
in
terms
of
whether
you
can
lead
I
mean
it
will
be
open
to
the
public
again.
I
think
the
purpose
of
the
meeting
was
not
to
engage
with
the
public,
but
certainly
they
can
attend
and
listen.
B
A
B
C
B
D
D
J
Going
to
miss
omens
comment:
if
it's
here,
my
preference
would
be
that
it
is
televised.
If
that's
feasible,
I
know
you
know
they
they
might
have
something
else
going
on
and
I
can
live
with
that.
But
if,
if
they're
available,
if
it's
feasible,
doesn't
have
to
be
necessarily
broadcast
live
per
se,
but
I
think
at
some
point,
I
think
it's
good
for
the
community
just
to
see
that
we're
having
some
very,
very
serious
discussions
about
very
serious
issues.
So.
A
C
A
J
Moving
motion
right
just
that
the
this
body
hold
a
special
call
workshop
on
the
28th
is
nine.
An
okay
beginning
at
nine
am
anticipated
for
three
or
four
hours
that
the
the
items
that
Michelle
presented
be
be
discussed,
as
well
as
the
the
eighteen
contract
lists.
Eighteen
item
lists
in
the
contract
be
included
and,
if
possible,
that
CTV
would,
at
a
minimum
record
record
the
meeting
and
that
the
clerk
and
our
legal
counsel
make
sure
that
this
is
properly
noticed.
G
G
A
A
C
A
L
L
So
the
first
part-
and
the
easiest
part
to
address,
as
mentioned
earlier
when
Courtney
was
up
here-
was
that
earlier
in
the
spring,
the
facade
grant
program
had
been
amended
to
allow
a
grant
only
every
two
years
by
an
owner.
It
originally
had
been
twelve
months.
The
original
thought
behind
that
was
to
make
sure
that
we
were
spreading
it
around
and
being
equal
opportunity,
and
that
has
had
some
pushback.
We
have
brought
all
of
these
items
to
our
respective
CA
C's,
with
the
CRA
s
that
have
the
facade
grant
program.
L
L
All
right,
the
second
issue
that
we
had
was
brought
up
should
we
raise
the
funding
limit,
which
is
a
currently
50
thousand
in
the
facade
grant
for
historic
structures
on
the
Historic
Register
or
run
by
nonprofits
on
these
historic
buildings.
So
when
we
went
back
to
all
of
our
CA
sees
and
talked
and
looked
at,
what
structures
would
qualify,
there's
only
a
handful
of
structures
that
would
actually
fall
under
this
category.
L
Some
of
the
CAC
s
did
have
concerns
about
an
individual
CIA's
ability
to
fund
a
facade
grant
as
a
right
at
a
hundred
or
150,000,
meaning
that,
if
you
raise
the
limit
within
this
program
to
100
or
150
thousand,
some
of
the
CRA
s
in
any
given
year
only
have
a
hundred
thousand
for
the
entire
program
for
all
applicants.
So
as
a
right
to
say
that
they
now
have.
That
limit
was
very
concerning
to
some
of
the
CA
CS.
L
L
The
other
CA
C's
are
not
in
favor
of
raising
that
limits
again
as
a
right
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
historic
structure
separately,
since
there
was
another
part
of
the
motions
that
dress
with
historic
aspects
of
it,
but
specifically
with
the
concept
of
raising
limits.
Ybor
is
looking
at
that
and
again
that
does
raise
a
lot
of
concerns
for
the
other
CA
CS,
who
don't
have
that
kind
of
funding
on
an
annual
basis.
If
we
make
it
an
automatic
right
within
the
program.
N
N
Legally,
let's
say
we
are
nonprofit
here
we
wouldn't
stop
the
nonprofit.
What
happened
to
the
building
that
we
own?
Where
is
the
money
go
to
I?
Don't
know,
see
it's
all
about
money
somewhere.
Somehow
it's
all
about
money.
Where
does
the
money
go
to
to
the
people
who
are
on
the
board
of
the
nonprofit
I?
Don't
know.
N
That
but
the
building
is
now
the
owner
is
a
nonprofit.
Not
you
not
the
people
in
the
audience
enough
profits.
What
happens
if
we
cease
as
a
nonprofit
in
the
building
this
City
Hall
I,
say
the
City
Hall,
it's
gonna
be
sold,
who,
where
did
the
money
go
to
the
general
public
or
the
directors
of
the
not
promised
I'm?
Not
a
lawyer,
there's
lawyers
here
this
bar
is
everywhere:
I
must
have
stunned
them.
I.
N
O
O
N
Like
to
put
that
on
emotion
in
a
way,
you
can
put
it
that
if
this
building
is
owned
by
a
non-profit
because
you've
been
taking
care
of
it
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you
get
the
facade
grand
you're
doing
whatever
and
for
whatever
reason,
they're
nonprofit
so
happens
that
they'll
become
decease
of
one
day.
Don't
have
a
massive
heart
attack.
I
know.
N
C
Example,
like
the
Sons
of
Italy,
launched
what,
as
a
nonprofit
whatever,
once
the
membership
drops
below
a
certain
number
and
not
enough
people
show
up,
because
it's
a
big,
you
know
it's
a
big
place.
The
Grand
Lodge
would
take
over
that
property.
We
couldn't
sell
it
as
a
non-profit
and
pocket
the
money
as
board
members.
It
goes
up
to
a
higher
authority,
which
is
the
Grand
Lodge
and
that
I.
B
A
J
A
L
So
the
third
part
of
your
two
motions
was
to
discuss
possibly
limiting
the
facade
grant
program
to
an
eligibility
criteria
of
historic
properties.
Only
and
again
we
took
this
back
to
all
of
our
respective
CAC
s.
West
Tampa,
as
a
new
CRA,
is
not
requesting
any
changes
be
made
to
the
program.
They
have
had
three
or
four
approvals
to
date.
Some
of
them
have
been
older
buildings.
L
Some
of
them
have
this
been
historic,
but
they
have
a
mix
of
both
of
those
types
of
buildings
that
they
would
like
to
see
get
upgraded
in
their
community,
so
they
are
requesting.
No
changes
be
made
for
them
for
the
next
year,
they'd
like
to
see
how
they
can
program
continues
to
work,
and
they
do
have
a
priority
for
all
types
of
buildings
within
the
West
Tampa
CRA,
not
just
historic
ones,
with
Drew
Park.
You
would
basically
eliminate
the
facade
grant
program
for
the
drew
Park
CRA
if
it
has
a
historic
limitation.
L
So
if
the
CRA
Board
so
chooses
to
not
have
the
facade
grant
program
into
park,
that
is
your
will.
Otherwise
they
are
requesting
for
it
to
remain,
as
is
almost
the
same
response
for
East
Tampa.
On
this
there
are
a
few
historic
structures,
but
the
vast
majority
of
structures
in
is
Tampa
that
have
come
under
the
facade
grant
and
been
improved
through
the
facade
grant
program
have
not
been
what
you
would
call
historic
structures:
they're
older.
L
Also,
a
new
park
is
the
one
on
the
right
and
what
they
were
able
to
do,
taking
down
the
concertina
razor-wire,
at
their
fencing
being
able
to
enclose
in
and
cover
up
that
really
old
stucco
address
water
intrusion
on
there.
So
these
are
the
kinds
of
improvements
they're
receiving
Andrew
park
because
of
the
vasa
grant
program.
L
This
is
an
East
Tampa,
the
building
on
the
left,
the
gray
one.
That's
what
faces
the
NFL
yet
Center
on
Lake
Avenue,
again,
not
a
historic
structure,
all
those
cars
you
saw
there
originally.
That
was
what
was
happening
every
day.
They
are
not
part
of
the
business
or
the
employees
that
work
there.
These
were
people
who,
just
for
parking
hanging
out
underneath
that
canopy
it
was
an
old,
deteriorated
canopy
from
way
back
when,
when
the
building
was
first
built
and
with
the
facade
program,
this
back
of
the
property
had
no
impact
on
the
business
itself.
L
It
had
an
incredible
impact
on
the
community.
So,
with
the
facade
grant
program,
the
owner
cleaned
up
that
whole
back
took
off
that
canopy,
so
that
it
did
not
incent
people
to
come
in
later
there
you
can
see.
The
cars
are
no
longer
parked
there
and
when
you're
at
the
entrance
to
the
NFL
yet
Center.
This
is
now
what
you
look
at.
L
Is
the
nice
landscaping
and
drive
up,
and
not
all
of
that
other
stuff
that
they
had
been
a
few
years
ago
on
the
right-hand
side
was
another
structure
on
North
29th
Street,
not
far
from
Lake
again
older
aging,
building,
not
historic,
but
now
able
to
have
a
much
nicer
upgrade
attract
businesses
and
be
better
for
its
tenants.
So
these
are
the
kinds
of
improvements
we're
seeing
on
non
historic
structures,
so
in
Ybor
it
would
have
very
little
effect
if
you
use
the
criteria
of
are
the
buildings
on
the
contributing
structure
list.
L
The
vast
majority
in
Ybor
would
be
on
that
list
and
would
qualify
so
Ybor
again
doesn't
have
much
of
an
impact
one
way
or
another.
If
you
did
at
a
historic
limit
to
the
facade
grant
program
in
downtown
downtown
is
a
new
CRA.
Added
to
this
there's
been
some
discussion
about.
Why
is
downtown
even
involved
in
the
facade
grant
program,
so
I
would
just
want
to
make
a
reminder
for
downtown.
L
High-Rises
are
not
able
to
apply
for
the
facade
grant
and
it
is
limited
to
the
buildings
north
of
Kennedy
and
in
case
you're
not
familiar
with
or
driven
those
streets.
Recently
we
have
a
lot
of
buildings
on
the
north
by
the
downtown
CRA
that
are
some
of
these
older
aging
structures
that
could
use
an
upgrade
and
the
CAC
for
downtown
felt
that
they
want
to
make
those
incentives
available
so
that
everything
doesn't
just
get
raised
and
replaced
with
high-rises
for
some
of
these
buildings.
L
L
So,
lastly,
we
are
asking
that
the
historic
limitation
not
be
added
to
the
facade
opamp
program.
If
it
is,
we
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
everyone
understood
what
the
implications
are
to
the
program
as
a
whole.
Additionally,
we
do
have
historic
programs
that
our
business
owners
and
nonprofits
can
take
advantage
of
I
just
want
to
give
you
one
example:
there's
a
historic
structure
in
Ybor
they
were
awarded
a
$50,000
facade,
grant.
They
have
received
135,000
from
the
city
of
Tampa
as
an
interstate,
historic
trust.
L
They
have
received
another
1.1
million
in
county
grants
for
historic
structures
and
they've
received
another
1.5
million
for
the
state
for
historic
structures.
So,
as
a
CRA
Board,
you
can
create
the
facade
grant
in
two
historic
structure
program.
You
can
create
a
separate
historic
structure
program
or
leave,
as
is
I.
G
If
we
take
in
the
context
of
what
else
we
could
spend
the
money
on
I
think
if
we
looked
at
it
as
among
the
other
programs
who
wouldn't
prioritize
this,
and
we
can
talk
about
this
on
the
28th,
but
knowing
that
it's
gonna
be
probably
a
six
to
one
vote.
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
restrict
the
facade
grants
to
to
be
for
historic.
Buildings
only
have
a
second.
N
N
However,
when
you
go
into
an
area,
that's
blighted
and
you
incentivize
people
to
do
something.
Sometimes
they
don't
have
all
the
capital
as
De
Niro
the
money.
What
happens
it
continues
to
the
case.
The
whole
area,
when
you
start
doing
something
in
putting
twenty
twenty-five
thousand
five
thousand
sounds
like
a
lot
of
money.
You
go,
buy
wood
or
you
go
buy
plaster
or
you
for
buy
somebody
to
do
it.
For
you,
you
don't
know
what
money
is.
N
You
go,
buy,
towels
old,
395
or
square
foot,
so
all
that
cheap
when
you're
looking
at
one
square
foot
now
you
do
a
thousand
of
them
square
foot.
How
much
is
it
four
thousand
dollars
now
that
one
square
foot
became
four
thousand
dollars?
You
don't
know
what
it
costs
until
you
start
doing,
especially
on
historic
structures
and
then
historic
structures.
Usually
they
get
money
from
different
areas,
including
the
state,
including
individuals.
They
form.
These
corporations
explode
that
beautiful
it's
got
to
be
uniformly
spread
across.
N
You
cannot
have
it
just
for
one
area,
you
can't
say
yes
I'm
or
do
it
for
everything
on
Main,
Street
or
everything
on
Cypress
or
everything
or
North
Boulevard.
You
can't
do
them.
It's
got
to
be
for
an
area
where
the
money
goes
into,
and
is
this
first?
If
you
look
at
group
art,
if
I
ask
you
to
show
me
a
picture
do
part.
Twenty
years
ago
to
now
you.
N
N
Cargo
road
and
Osburn
I
had
to
stop
for
a
minute,
because
I
read
in
4:30
in
the
morning
on
cargo,
wrote
in
I
was
born
some
company's
gonna
move
in,
have
it
like
100,
you,
employees,
guess
what
happened
just
the
other
day
right
over
in
that
corner,
you'd
go
on
cargo
road.
You
go
in
hesperides,
which
is
the
road
just
east
of
cargo
Road,
look
at
all
the
buildings
that
have
been
done
with
private
capital,
most
of
them
look
at
the
one,
a
corner,
Al's
burn
and
hesperides.
N
N
N
A
J
You
I'm
in
a
second
mr.
Carlson's
motion
out
of
courtesy
and
respect,
don't
support
the
motion
but
I'm
in
a
second,
a
purpose
of
discussion
and
a
vote,
because
I
think
everybody
deserves
that.
The
I
was
just
refreshing.
My
memory
about
the
that
broken
windows,
theory
of
broken
windows
theory.
It
came
out
in
1982
and
basically
has
been
a
popular
theory
in
the
world
of
criminology.
To
basically
say
if
you
leave
windows
broken.
J
But
with
that
said,
I
think
this
is
sort
of
hand-in-hand
with
that
and
that's
why
I
support
the
facade
program
I
think
that
if
it's
our
job
as
the
CRA
to
improve
an
area,
then
I
think
that
if
we
can
help
people
with
up
to
$50,000,
sometimes
it's
less
and
they
put
in
their
own
money
as
well.
And
you
always
show
us,
you
know
we,
you
know
20,
we
put
in
25
they
put
in
100
or
whatever
it
is.
J
D
That
means
that
people
are
meeting
and
when
it
was
rained
so
bad
and
we
couldn't
find
a
place
to
park.
That's
all
large,
larger
cleaners.
We
Parker
need
that
canopy
and
that
would
be
the
cover
for
the
day
and
I.
Remember
that
building
so
well,
because
a
lot
of
my
programs
play
at
the
NFL
gets
it
we
park
on
that
property
and
guests
will
come.
But
again
it
came
a
time
that
mr.
Brennan
says
time
to
change
and
to
change
the
area
they
had
the
beautified.
D
So
if
you
look
at
it
now,
it's
a
totally
different
structure.
Building,
so
I
support
those
kind
of
community
projects,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
projects
in
these
temples
and
I.
Don't
know
what
kind
of
money
value
is
generally
have
or
whoever
owns
that.
But
there
are
other
small
businesses
that
don't
have
the
extra
capital
to
do
that
type
of
work
to
make
their
block
look
decent
because
perception
is
reality,
something
you
don't
got
a
little
good-looking
place
where
I
don't
want
to
go
there.
I,
don't
think
that
place
looks
too
good.
D
So
we
have
to
keep
these
type
of
programs
in
place
to
help
those
I
wish
the
program
had
a
little
different
criteria.
We
can't
make
everything
perfect.
You
know,
because
you
know
some
people
are
or
with
their
business
paycheck-to-paycheck
with
their
business
month
the
month
of
their
business
and
to
try
to
for
them
to
try
to
come
up
with
this
extra
capital
to
match
our
capital.
It's
challenging.
It
is
challenging.
So
that's
why
sometimes
you
stay
in
that
rut
and
you
can't
get
out.
You
know
every
program
is
imperfect.
D
Maybe
in
the
future
we
can
look
at
fixing
a
little
bit
of
that
to
help
those
who
just
need
a
little
help
versus
people
that
may
have
some
capital
can
get
over
that
hump,
but
I
always
have
to
look
at
those
who
can't
help
themselves,
sometimes
that
are
really
struggling
at
the
bottom.
So
we
may
have
to
look
at
that
in
the
future.
We
can't
solve
everything
today,
but
I
want
us
to
get
that.
A
N
A
G
G
If
we
could
spend
$100,000
on
facade
grants
or
if
we
could
spend
the
money
on
building
better
sidewalks
or
beautifying
a
street
or
or
updating
parks.
The
linear
parking
in
drew
Park
sounds
like
a
great
idea,
but
are
there
other
things
that
only
government
can
do
that?
We
can
beautify
our
help
if
we,
because
we
have
a
limited
amount
of
money.
B
B
Think
it's
a
great
idea
to
spend
30
minutes
to
45
minutes
on
what
we
have
been
doing
is
a
priority,
but
I
think
it
also
needs
to
tie
back
to.
The
concern
is
for
going
forward
purposes,
because
if
the
strategic
action
plans
are
not
our
guiding
post
or
guide
light
for
the
board
to
have
decision
support
through
the
CAC,
then
that's
where
the
first
adoption
should
really
begin.
So
that
would
be.
G
G
So
what
should
we
focus
on
on
the
and
just
to
use
a
Charlie
style
analogy,
one
of
the
things
I
say
when
talking
about
government
money
is
I've
been
in
Tibet
and
the
Tibetan
regions
of
Nepal,
and
so
when
the
Tibetan
monks
come
here
to
the
Strada
Center
and
play
I'll,
go
listen
to
them,
play
their
horns
and
and
chant.
But
just
because
I,
like
Tibetan
monk
music,
doesn't
mean
that
I
think
we
should
spend
government
money
to
build
a
monastery
for
the
Tibetan
monks
here
in
Tampa.
G
A
M
M
That's
I
think
that's
a
great
thing
there.
It
goes
without
saying
you
know,
I
think
there
can
be
some
common
ground
in
the
future.
I
think
councilman
Goods
may
have
touched
on
this,
which
is
looking
at
for
some
of
these
facade.
Grants
may
be
looking
at
partial
means,
testing
for
some
of
them,
so
that
folks,
like
councilman
Goods,
mentioned,
who
can't
afford
the
50%,
for
example,
taking
a
few
setting
a
few
those
aside
for
those
entrepreneurs
who
maybe
don't
have
those
funds
with
them.
M
N
A
C
A
L
Back
to
the
PowerPoint
very
last
point
and
I
want
to
thank
councilman
goods
for
doing
the
introduction
to
our
last
point,
so
the
last
part
of
councilman
Carlson's
motion
was:
could
we
look
at
a
needs-based
component
to
the
facade
grant?
This
is
something
that
when
the
program
was
first
originated,
it
was
a
very
thorough,
difficult
discussion
about
the
paperwork
that
would
be
required
in
order
to
prove
that
you
can't
afford
your
part
of
the
project,
so
the
East
Tampa
CAC
did
take
this
on.
L
So
they
are
asking
that
the
existing
program
remain
the
same,
but
to
add
a
needs-based
component
to
it,
so
that
you
still
have
the
ability
to
use
the
existing
program.
But
should
you
not,
as
pointed
out
by
two
of
our
council
members,
just
now
have
that
matching
fund
and
still
be
in
a
business
and
in
a
building
that
really
needs
that
facelift
and
it
would
greatly
affects
the
neighborhood
and
your
ability
to
conduct
business
with
the
people
in
the
community
if
the
front
of
your
business
does
not
look
very
inviting.
L
So
that
would
be
that
second
needs-based
criteria,
and
in
addition
to
that,
since
we're
saying
that
the
owner
would
not
be
able
to
afford
a
match,
the
funds
would
be
paid
then
directly
to
their
contractor,
since
the
project
owner
would
not
be
able
to
afford
to
pay
for
it
up
front
and
be
reimbursed,
and
there
would
be
then
additional
documentation
that
would
be
required
on
the
part
of
the
property
owner
so
that
we
can
verify
it
would
be
then
given
on
a
truly
needs-based
criteria.
So
that
is
the
request
of
East
Tampa.
L
Were
just
giving
you
a
heads
up
that
the
East
Tampa
separately,
they
are
going
after
a
lot
of
the
non-conforming
painting
on
commercial
buildings.
Signs
are
expensive,
they
don't
always
have
money
for
signs,
and
so
they
do
painting
of
their
advertising
directly
on
the
building.
So
the
East
Tampa
CAC
is
working
with
code
enforcement
to
start
enforcing
some
of
our
codes
on
this
issue,
but
they
also
want
to
help
support
the
businesses
that
do
need
to
advertise
what
it
is,
that's
being
sold
or
service
within
that
structure.
L
So
East
Tampa
is
in
the
process
of
putting
together
a
program
similar
to
the
drew
Park
offense
program
that
would
help
support
the
businesses
to
repaint
the
painted
sign
in
say
of
now
and
also
help
support
them
and
getting
money
to
put
up
a
new
sign
and
each
of
those
are
proposed
at
twenty
five
hundred
each.
It's.
A
J
Supportive
of
this
I
think
it's
it's
it's
a
neat
idea.
I
had
mentioned
the
council.
My
concern
on
the
flip
side
of
the
need
issue
and
I.
Don't
know
if,
if
you
all
address
this
Michelle,
the
flip
side
being
if
folks
are
very
wealthy
and
happen
to
own
a
building,
that's
kind
of
looking
a
little
disheveled
and-
and
you
know,
I,
don't
know
it
bothered
me
a
little
bit
three
four
months
ago,
when
I
saw
some
very
wealthy
folks
with
you
know,
with
very
valuable
properties,
getting
the
CRA,
the
fifty
thousand
dollars
of
CRA
money.
J
I
voted
for
it
because
it
was
already
in
the
process
and
I
didn't
want
to
be.
You
know
a
jerk.
You
know
to
yank
the
rug
out
from
underneath,
but
philosophically
I
got
a
little
problem.
I
have
a
little
problem
with
that,
especially
in
the
downtown
area
or
channel
sod
area.
Maybe
Ybor
I
think
one
of
them
was
a
kneeboard
one
or
two
of
them
was
in
84.
So
has
that
discussion
come
up
something
you
want
to
look
at?
It's.
L
Come
up
repeatedly
because
any
incentive
you
have
is
a
double-edged
sword
when
this
program
was
first
instituted.
We
had
a
five
page
application,
even
though
it
wasn't
needs-based.
We
were
looking
at
the
financials
of
the
property
owners.
We
received
very
few
applications
that
first
year,
because
property
owners
did
not
want
to
share
that
information
with
us,
regardless
of
the
value
of
their
business
and
their
financial
resources.
L
These
tampa
there
is
a
concern
of
who
will
be
willing
to
produce
those
documents
to
show
that
they
do
not
have
the
resources
for
the
matching,
we're
hoping
that
we
will
get
takers
on
that
and
that
we'll
be
able
to
benefit
some
of
the
businesses
who
are
truly
in
need.
But
usually
there
is
a
reluctance
to
bring
that
type
of
paperwork
forward.
J
J
L
Did
do
that
when
this
came
back
up
due
to
counsel
and
Carlson's
motion,
we
did
research
both
in
state
of
Florida
and
nationwide,
trying
to
find
examples
of
needs
based
programs
and
I
even
called
some
of
the
other
jurisdictions
that
were
in
more
at-risk
communities
and
deeply
at-risk
communities
and
most
of
them
the
vast
majority
are
not
doing
him.
I
couldn't
find
anybody
I'm
sure
there
may
be
one
out
there,
but
after
several
hours
of
research,
I
could
not
find
a
fight
aside
grant
program
that
was
needs
based
again.
L
J
A
Q
A
L
G
My
issue
is
the
same
one
as
mr.
ding
fellers
is
that,
let's
say
Andrew
Park.
There
are
lots
of
big
companies
making
investments
there
and
let's
say
we
have
a
multi-billion
dollar
company
coming
in
building
a
big
facility.
We're
gonna
be
fifty
thousand
dollars
just
to
subsidize
their
building
and
we
could
be
using
that
fifty
thousand
dollars
for
an
affordable
home
and
I
just
I
just
don't
see
why
we
would
spend
any
money
if
it
I
don't
like
economic
development
subsidies
period.
G
But
if
we
make
a
decision
to
subsidize
a
big
company,
we
should
make
that
decision
outside
of
a
facade
grant.
We
should
do
it
as
part
of
an
economic
development
process
to
attract
your
retain
a
company
not
not
to
provide
this
money
that
could
be
used
for
affordable
housing
or
or
some
other
priority
of
the
community.
N
L
N
Help
everybody
to
have
something
about
available
for
everybody.
You
just
can't
say
I
want
those
under
fifty
thousand
or
twenty
thousand
you're
gonna.
Get
to
that
you're,
not
gonna,
get
anything
done.
So
there's
no
money
left
you
gotta
have
area
to
produce
money.
I
have
money
to
do
it,
Jeff
what
you
need
to
do.
It
doesn't
work
in
any
other
way.
You
must
have
you
can't
be
a
centrist,
you
got
to
be
an
opportunity
for
all.
N
You
cannot
say
because
you
have
money
or
you
think
you
have
money,
you
might
have
a
three
million
dollar
loan
doesn't
mean
you
got
a
three
million
dollar
building
that
you
got
three
million
dollars
in
the
bank.
That
means
you're
three
million
dollars
to
the
bank,
just
like
somebody,
150,000
200,000
for
a
house,
the
same
thing,
whether
you're,
rich
or
you're,
not
rich,
whether
you
have
money
or
you
don't
have
money.
N
A
D
R
D
D
It's
a
perfect
example
of
filling
the
gap,
because
I
know
for
a
fact
that
there's
some
people
who
wish
they
had
the
money
to
do
the
extra,
but
they
just
don't,
have
to
do
and
they're
keeping
their
business
open
week
to
week,
month
or
month,
just
alone
trying
to
buy
the
products
to
keep
it
going,
and
they
don't
have
the
extra
capital
ready
to
do
the
work
on
a
major
project
on
a
building.
So
I'm
glad
that
you,
you
introduced
this
to
us,
Thank
You
Michelle,
for
your
work.
A
L
Want
to
add
that
as
staff
Brenda
and
I,
who
primarily
oversee
all
of
these
programs,
we
are
always
working
with
our
businesses.
There
isn't
any
of
these
105
that
Brenda
and
I
haven't
touched
from
the
very
beginning.
Both
of
us
have
been
implementing
this
program
and
we
are
always
listening
to
our
businesses
working
with
our
businesses
to
how
to
tweak
it,
and
over
the
years
we
have
come
back
to
CRA
board
to
tweak
language.
Here,
we've
worked
with
our
attorneys
over
the
years,
whether
it
was
Sal
or
Jorge
and
now
Andrea.
L
L
We
are
in
regular
contact
with
other
CRA
s
across
the
straight
and
their
programs,
and
we
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls
about
how
programs
work
and
the
fr
a
recommends
and
refers
a
lot
of
people
to
us
when
CRA
s
are
looking
to
establish
for
cyber
grant
programs
as
to
how
we
operate
so,
but
I
don't
want
to
make
it
sound
like
we
are
shutting
down
discussion
or
we're
not
open,
and
we
continue
to
review
this
as
it
is
a
challenge
for
us
all.
So
you.
A
D
D
D
chairman,
our
City
Council
is
kind
of
pushed
for
limits
to
our
park,
improvements
and
so
forth
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
had
talked
previous
before
that
was
even
motion
was
even
made
aramis
to
kid
Mason,
where
we
are
at
with
that,
because
I
know
there's
some
issues
there
and
I
know
that
it's
already
gone
through
that
downtown
CC
border
talked
about
that.
So
I
just
didn't
know
where
we
at
with
that,
so
we
can
be
moving
forward.
I
know
it's
needed
over
there.
I've.
K
Been
in
communication
with
Brad
Souter
at
the
parks
department-
and
he
believes
that
there's
more
work
to
be
done
to
identify
the
specifics
and
we'll
be
meeting
with
the
person
that
runs
that
facility
on
the
21st
or
22nd.
We
were
just
giving
emails
to
find
a
date
to
meet
and
outlined
in
a
very
specific
format
and
go
through
that.
We
did
an
initial
assessment
a
few
weeks
before
the
last
meeting,
but
they've
been
looking
at
it
in
more
detail.
So
the
person
who's
in
charge
of
that
I
call
his
name
I.
D
Making
sure
that
people
see
this
really
preserved,
and
so,
as
we
get
more
information,
please
enlighten
us
from
the
cirrie
board
about
that,
because,
with
that
downtown
see
already
they
have
the
funds
to
get
things
done
and
we
need
to
get
that
moving.
Okay.
Thank
you,
sir
mr.
Jensen
Chiefs
dead,
mr.
joseffer.
D
Chief
I
know
we
talk
about
strategic
plans
and
mr.
Joshi
gave
his
presentation.
You
talked
about
strategic
friend
material
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
do
look
at
the
strategic
plan.
I
know
the
Farrell's
Park
has
been
an
issue.
I
want
to
make
sure
it's
been
since
oh
nine,
we're
going
to
220
I
want
to
make
sure
that
the
CEC
board
knows
about
the
situation
about
the
fields
and
that
we're
moving
forward
to
trying
to
rectify
the
issues.
I
went
down
there
several
times,
I
met
with
the
president
of
that
Association.
D
He
see
Hillsboro
Association
I
know
that
was
an
infestation
of
some
rats
and
some
other
things
in
that
building
a
while
ago,
I'm
hearing
it's
still
going
on.
So
we
need
to
look
in
that
right
away.
If
that's
the
case
and
I
know
that
it
wasn't
the
plan.
I
didn't
really
know
about
that.
Coming
on
board
now,
I'm
on
board
I'm
hearing
about
that
from
community
I
want
to
make
sure
we
address
that
federal
issue.
D
I
So
it
never
came
back.
However,
in
my
conversation
with
the
director
of
Parks
and
Recreation,
he's
informing
that
they
did
make
substantial
improvements
to
Fair
Oaks
from
a
rehabilitation
standpoint
to
try
to
clear
up
some
of
those
outstanding
issues
that
work
that
you
pointed
out
that
were
negative
into
that
facility.
So,
as
far
as
today
goes,
the
facility
is
from
the
parks
and
recreation
director
standpoint.
I
The
facility
is
adequate
for,
what's
being
used
there
right
at
the
present
time,
but
it
was
a
priority
for
the
community
to
have
Fair
Oaks
to
be
expanded,
because
at
that
time
of
the
discussion,
Fair
Oaks
was
handling
a
very
large
number
of
youth
after
school
in
their
programs,
and
they
were
just
busting
at
the
seams.
So
the
idea
was
that
they
were
going
to
design
a
new
facility
and
potentially
tear
the
old
one
down
and
built
a
new
one.
But
there
again
priorities
in
the
general
revenue
budget
moved
that
project
for
some
other
priority.
D
Since
that
isn't
a
plan,
let's
make
sure
that
the
CC
Board
knows
about
it.
Let's
move
forward,
you
know
there
are
dollars
there,
their
interest
dollars
there,
so
we
need
to
look
at
if
the
this
general
budget
can't
do
it.
We
look
at
us
doing
it
because
it
was
in
there.
It
was
a
priority
and
I
think
the
CEC
was
aware
of
that
project
as
well.
D
A
O
You
good
morning,
Janette
LaRussa,
fenton
I
am
very
proud
to
be
here,
representing
the
West
half
a
Chamber
of
Commerce
good
morning,
mr.
chair
and
all
of
the
board
members.
We
want
to
first.
Thank
you
so
much
for
this
CRA
board
support
of
the
upcoming
flavor
of
West
Tampa
vet.
We
received
a
very
generous
$5,000
grant
that
who's
going
to
help
greatly
toward
that
event
toward
the
city
costs
that
are
associated
with
it.
So
we
thank
you
very
much.
I
also
want
to
thank
mr.
O
Kiner,
the
staff
and
the
West
Campus
CAC
for
their
strong
support.
Now
the
fun
part,
the
flavor
of
West
Campus,
mark
your
calendars,
Sunday
November,
10,
11
a.m.
to
4:00
p.m.
we
are
at
a
brand
new
facility
at
Julian,
B,
Lane,
Riverfront
Park.
It's
going
to
be
spectacular.
We
are
going
to
have
everything
that
you
can
imagine.
O
Many
of
you
remember
that
we
had
the
flavor
of
West
AMPA
for
about
seven
years,
and
we
took
a
hiatus
for
several
years
and
now
we're
back,
hopefully
bigger
and
better
than
ever,
and
we
have
a
new
twist
this
year.
It
is
flavor
of
West,
AMPA,
sangria
and
cigars.
So,
in
addition
to
all
of
the
food
from
the
iconic
West
hamper
restaurants,
we
have
about
18
of
them.
There's
something
to
meet
every
every
palate.
We
will
have
sangria,
we'll
have
cigars.
This
is
a
family
friendly
event.
We'll
have
a
children's
area,
we'll
have
business
expo.
O
It
is
a
free
event
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that,
because
there
there's
going
to
be
something
that
can
be
enjoyed
by
all.
Of
course,
the
food
and
beverages
will
be
for
sale,
but
will
other
than
that
everything
is
free.
Another
new
thing
this
year
is
that
we
will
have
a
domino
tournament.
So
yes,
I,
am
talking
to
you.
O
Councilman
Moran
I
know,
but
there
will
be
a
domino
tournament,
so
we
we
encourage
everyone
to
to
sign
up
for
that,
and
another
thing
I
want
to
relay
is
that
this
is
a
fantastic
opportunity
to
showcase
West
AMPA,
our
history
in
our
culture.
But
in
addition,
the
proceeds
for
this
will
benefit
the
judeo-christian
health
clinic.
So
the
West
Ham
Pechanga
is
very
proud
to
to
organize
the
event
and
to
provide
the
proceeds
to
the
judeo-christian
health
clinic.
That,
as
you
know,
helps
those
that
are
medically
indigent
to
receive
care
that
they
otherwise
would
not
receive.
O
J
R
We
realize
this,
and
so
what
we
hear
from
Ybor
CRA
might
not
be
the
same
response
we
get
from
district
5
where
I
live
information
tells
us
the
Census.
Bureau's
tells
us
that
fact
speaks
speaks
for
themselves.
We
understand
that
the
medium
income
of
the
people
that
live
in
district
5
is
not
going
to
be
reflected
as
same
as
those
who
live,
downtown
or
Channelside.
R
We
understand
it.
The
people
who
live
there
have
been
reported
that
the
greatest
number
of
persons
entered
into
the
prison
system
comes
from
district
5
and
that
these
same
people
are
going
to
come
home
to
district
5.
I
am
so
happy
to
hear
that
we
have
a
solution
which
is
going
to
be
work,
force
housing.
We
don't
have
a
population
we
can
afford
to
throw
away.
These
people
are
gonna
work
at
your
Burger
King
they're
gonna,
be
at
your
Walmart.
They
gotta
be
a
true
McDonald's
serving
you,
coffee
and
restaurants.
R
They're
gonna
be
downtown
picking
up
the
paper
after
these
special
events
you
have
and
they
deserve
a
place
to
live.
We
cannot
afford
to
forget
there.
There
is
a
class
of
people
who
still
need
somewhere
to
live
and
being
that
District
five
is
that
spot.
Is
that
place
that
zip
code?
Three
three
six
one
zero?
However,
we
want
to
get
around
it.
We
still
deserve
a
place
to
live,
work
force
housing.
R
It
is
not
the
$250,000
steel
structure
you're
putting
up
on
Chelsea,
it's
not
the
75
Lots,
you
give
it
to
domain
homes,
220,
starting
out
the
gate
and
the
first-time
homebuyers
program.
Let's
face
it,
it's
only
a
second
mortgage.
We
have
got
to
accommodate
the
people
who
live
in
these
neighborhoods.
It
says
community
is
the
first
part
of
your
name,
Community
Redevelopment.
If
you're
gonna
be
community,
that
means
people
so
we're
gonna
have
to
address
the
needs
of
the
people.
I
appreciate
my
three
minutes
now.
Thank
you
for
hearing
me
out.
A
S
Good
morning,
I'm
Johnny
Johnson
information
I
received
this
morning
is
the
CRA
is
coming
in
and
the
CAC
it's
not
reaching
the
community.
You
have
a
couple
of
people.
Speaking
for
the
masses,
a
lot
of
people
is
not
involved
with
the
redevelopment.
There's
the
Eco
number.
For
example,
you
brung
in
Walmart,
there's
supposed
to
be
a
full
services
house
services.
S
They
got
one
way
in
one
way
out
the
way
it's
driven,
and
so,
when
you
redevelop-
and
you
have
to
think
about
the
community
and
with
your
branding
these
businesses
in
and
send
them
down
and
now,
there's
still
an
economic
based
system
way.
We
are
getting,
for
example,
the
CAC
and
on
CRA
you,
elf
thought.
Y'all
was
going
closed
down,
Florida
braska
that
wasn't
a
voice
out
of
people.
It
was
the
voice
of
a
small
group
of
people,
thinking
they
doing
the
best
for
the
overall
group
of
the
community,
especially
in
district
5.
S
We
have
to
understand
that
again,
everybody
is
to
be
accounted
for,
and
we
let
that
you
guys
to
speak
on
and
move
on
our
behalf
in
which
we're
not
again
the
CRA,
the
Community
Redevelopment,
are
only
thinking
about
I
feel
in
the
community
field
as
the
businesses
they
see.
Our
CAC
is
not
communicating
with
the
masses
of
the
community
and
the
constituents,
so
they
really
don't
know
what's
going
on
and
when
some
has
redeveloped
the
people
in
the
community
is
like
an
hour
or
at
while
because
they
had
no
idea
well.
S
The
public
was
going
down
on
China
side.
This
was
going
on
over
here,
cuz
there's
a
big
disconnect
yeah.
Oh
look
good
sitting
up
here
when
you
got
your
CRA
board
members
coming
up
telling
you
what's
going
on
again.
The
community,
though,
do
not
know
what's
going
on
within
their
boundaries
and
their
district
I
want
to
know
how
you
guys
gonna
fix
that,
so
that
everyone
can't
come
down
here
and
be
in
this
meeting
to
find
out
what's
going
on
and
publicizing
their
own
television,
that's
not
good
enough.
It
should
be
somewhere
way.
S
The
CAC
is
holding
a
mass
meeting,
the
library
or
school,
or
something
where
people
can
make
these
meaning
to
know
what
you
guys
are
redeveloping
and
start
up
some
vintage
point
every
time
in
my
community
that
just
have
spring
up.
Oh
man,
I
didn't
know
that
and
again,
with
a
lot
of
the
week,
the
weed,
dispensary
and
stuff
that's
going
on
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community.
Do
not
want
a
lot
of
things
that
you
guys
are
calling
redevelopment.
S
It's
not
good
for
the
community
to
be
blindside
and
tights
their
money
being
spent
and
develop
things
that
they
really
don't
want
to
want
in
the
community
and
again,
what
do
you
guys
are
going
to
do
about
the
bistec
disconnect
between
the
community
and
the
city
and,
what's
going
around
as
overall,
because
again,
Hillsborough
County
is
our
own
brother
I?
Don't
shouldn't
have
to
travel
far
out
to
get
good
businesses
and
you're
bringing
businesses
into
the
community?
That's
not
really
serving
it
again.
You
need
to
read
a
look
at
Walmart
on
15th
and
Hills.
S
P
Good
morning,
Yvette
Louis,
you
want
my
address.
Okay,
thank
you.
I,
come
to
you
this
morning
on
a
couple
of
topics.
First
of
all,
affordable
housing
is
just
that
the
word
affordable,
affordable
housing
to
you
is
something
totally
different
for
someone
who
has
a
very
minimum
income
and
trying
to
survive.
So
when
you
looking
at
private
developments
coming
into
East,
Tampa
I
need
you
to
look
at
someone
who's
really
actually
gonna
do
some
housing
that
we
can
afford
two
hundred
and
forty
thousand
dollars
and
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars.
P
It's
not
affordable,
housing,
okay,
if
I'm
working
at
Burger,
King
or
McDonald's,
or
even
if
I'm,
a
teacher's
aide.
So
let's
I
want
y'all
to
think
about
that.
Look
for
a
private
developer.
That's
really
ready
to
come
in
and
help
this
community.
It
can
be
done.
Don't
tell
me
that
it
can't
because
it
can
also.
P
The
CAC,
the
East
Tampa
revitalization
program
had
a
meeting
the
other
day.
What
was
it?
Wednesday?
I'm,
sorry
Tuesday
after
that
meeting
was
over
my
phone
was
ringing.
My
phone
was
ringing.
We
have
a
serious
problem
in
East
Tampa.
The
CAC
is
not
allowing
public
comments,
not
allowing
people
to
speak,
not
allowing
people
to
come
in
and
sit
there
and
observe
so
I
want
to
let
you
know
there
is
an
issue
with
transparency.
P
That's
going
on
in
East
Tampa
and
me
as
the
president
of
the
NAACP
I
am
asking
y'all
to
get
it
under
control
and
clean
it
up
now.
I
know,
y'all
are
voting
and
talking
about
a
new
executive
director
when
you
give
him
his
office
space
I
want
you
to
give
him
a
broom
and
send
him
to
East
Tampa
CAC,
East
Tampa
revitalization
program
and
sweep
it
up
and
clean
it
out,
because
it's
a
mess
and
I
want
you
to
know
one
thing.
P
Okay,
please
understand
that
tear
the
building
down
and
give
those
people
main
effect
hold
on
I'm
gonna.
Make
it
personal.
Give
me
a
new
building
that
same
swing,
set
I
hate
to
say
it's.
The
same
swing
said:
I
was
skipped
up
and
burned
up
on
when
I
was
a
child
playing
over
there
throws.
This
is
a
shameful
guard
that
I
have
to
continue
to
come
up
with
him
and
ask
our
folks
to
fix
that
park.
For
me
and
my
baby
I
got
a
two
year
old
I
need
your
help.
P
S
Q
Name
is
Bishop
Michelle,
B,
Patti
I'm,
the
passive
Trinity
and
face
ministry
90%
of
my
parishioner
lives
in
East
Tampa,
the
other
10%
throughout
the
city.
First
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
not
voting
to
block
off
floor
abrasca,
but,
however
I'm
here,
I
heard
quite
a
bit
and
so
I
just
want
to
start
with
Park
sizing.
We
need
to
know
at
how
to
prioritize
and
that's
not
being
done.
I
hear
you're
talking
about
what
the
facade
need
base.
It's
just
like
on
paper.
Q
Q
There's
a
gentleman,
a
white
gentleman
in
the
hood
in
the
black
neighborhood
who's
building
a
container
home,
2-bedroom
2-bath,
and
it
has
full
service
kitchen,
a
living
room,
love
so
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
that
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day
that
man
we're
not
or
pinning
to
anyone,
though
you
get,
the
profit,
is
real
cheap.
When
does
I
mean
it's
something
that
this
you
all
need
to
look
at
now,
let's
go
to
Fair
Oaks
I'm
hearing
back
once
again
prioritizing
2009
the
money
was
there.
Q
The
money
was
taken
from
there
and
sent
to
Davis
Island.
That's
what
happened.
Councilman
goose
asked
that
a
representative
for
district
5
emotion
need
to
be
made
today
that
Fair
Oaks
be
a
prioritize
that
they
need
to
get
what
they
need
to
redo.
This
building
tear
it
down,
fix
it
up
or
wherever,
because
the
money
was
put
there.
We
are
taxpayers,
we're
also
super
voters
out
there
and
you
cannot
treat
the
people
like
children.
Q
You
dangle
a
carrot
in
they
face,
say
we're
gonna
give
this
to
you,
you
snatch
it
and
you
take
it
over
the
Davis
dollar,
where
people
really
can
pay
for
whatever
service
they
need
over
there.
So
these
are
things
that
we
should
not
continue
to
have
to
come
down
here
and
plea
for
it
now,
with
the
CAC,
how
we
gonna
have
one
that
they
make.
The
motion
make
up,
do
whatever
they
have
to
do.
Then
they
allow
the
public
input.
That
makes
no
good
sense.
Q
Q
So
counsel,
magoons,
we're
asking
that
you
speak
up
today
make
a
motion
for
the
people
in
Fair
Oaks,
because
we
do
want
the
culture
center,
but
I
want
you
to
understand
that
culture
center
is
going
to
take
a
while
before
it's
even
built,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
has
to
be
put
in
place
for
that.
But
the
bottom
line
beast
our
Fair
Oaks
was
on
the
agenda
way
back
in
2009.
Q
D
Chairman,
let
me
speak
to
miss
patty.
You
killed
my
place.
You
made
two
points.
Let
me
get
to
the
CHC,
because
I
said
on
that
board
and
I
can
tell
you
you're
right.
There
needs
to
be
some
change
made,
there's
a
race
to
the
partnership,
the
CC
board,
hopefully
with
a
new
director
coming
in.
We
can
kind
of
get
and
round
this
thing
together,
but
I
can
also
tell
you
there's
this.
D
Those
meetings
are
approached
it,
but
we
don't
get
the
participation,
sometimes
from
our
community,
to
come
out
to
the
meetings
to,
of
course,
their
concerns.
What
times
you
get
you
get
a
lot
of
the
presidents
of
the
different
associations
that
do
come
to
the
means
because
they
have
their
own
part
of
me.
D
So
when
you're
having
two
meetings
a
week
and
then
the
associations
are
having
their
own
meeting
people's
times
are
valuable,
so
they
don't
come
out
to
all
the
meetings,
but
their
representative
comes
to
those
means
that
say
what
their
particular
Association
is
singing,
what
they
want.
That's
the
morn
so
hopefully
can
do
better
on
that
and
making
sure
that
we're
marketing
better.
We
know
the
city
about
marketing
products
and
marketing
what
we
do
so
I've
already
talked
to
the
chief
of
staff.
D
We
first
came
on
board
as
it
relates
to
better
marketing
in
the
city
on
all
fronts,
as
it
relates
to
Fair,
Oaks
I
didn't
know
about
Fair
Oaks
in
to
the
end
and
to
it
came
about
I
understand
about
the
strategic
plan.
I
questioned
9:00
till
now
and
I've
questioned
that
that
should
have
been
done
a
long
time
ago.
Irregardless
of
those
funds
from
the
general
fund
would
take
it
and
move
someplace
else.
The
TIF
dollars
should
have
come
in
and
taking
care
of
that
point-blank
simple.
It
was
in
the
plan,
it
should've
been
done.
D
It
has
not
been
done,
but
I've
already.
Just
you
saw
me
just
tell
the
chief
of
staff
and
mr.
Johnson.
We
need
to
start
looking
at
that
now,
not
later
so,
hopefully
I'll
be
getting
the
staff
report
back
within
a
couple
of
weeks
or
by
the
end
of
the
month
to
find
out
where
we
at
on
that,
once
he
goes
down
there
and
make
an
evaluation
with
Parks
and
Rec
and
the
chief
of
staff.
So
I
can
make
that
motion
be
happy
to
hopefully
get
a
second
on
it,
but
I've
already
instructed
staff
and
mr.
Q
Expect
that
people
don't
come
to
the
meeting,
why
should
you
come
there
just
to
be
a
spectator
to
let's
be
transparent?
Let's
make
the
motion:
if
your
colleagues
go
with
you
or
not,
let's
be
as
Charlie
and
not
no
disrespect,
counselor,
Miranda
and
Councilman
Carson.
If
you
were
standing
alone
today,
you
stand
alone
but
make
a
motion
nature.
R
R
The
East
Tampa
partnership
has
an
advisory
committee
that
has
a
Housing
Committee,
that's
supposed
to
meet
every
third
Thursday
of
the
month
and
I
bet
you
not
one
sign
is
she
can
be
provided
because
the
council
person
that
chairs
that
meet
don't
even
chair
at
his
office.
I
position
myself
in
that
community
to
see
if
anybody's
coming
to
the
meet
nobody's.
Coming
to
the
me
how
these
decisions
being
made.
So
right
now
we
find
ourselves
the
CAC
versus
the
community.
The
meetings
are
held
10
o'clock
in
the
morning
10
night
at
10:15.
R
In
the
morning
they
had
a
meeting,
and
this
is
what
I,
what
really
brought
me
down
here,
because
we
was
at
a
meeting
the
other
night
and
from
the
audience
it
was
announced
that
the
CAC
of
East
Tampa
has
agreed
to
give
1
million
dollars
to
build
a
senior
set
of
senior
facility
over
at
the
18th
Street
Park.
When
has
the
community
vetted?
R
R
Another
body
out
of
CAC
say
we
gonna
be
send
men.
Seven
people
again
saying
Councilwoman,
you
own-
tell
them
in
a
non-confrontational
way,
relate
to
the
CRA
board
that
we
are
willing
to
put
in
each
table
CRA
eight
funds
to
make
the
seniors
going
to
happen
for
the
community.
We
have
not
had
an
opportunity
to
have
full
transparency
and
full
communication
in.
Let
me
just
add
this.
The
reason
I
come
down,
discuss,
I
love,
my
community.
R
The
reason
why
I
go
to
the
CRA
board,
because
I
had
been
left
because
it
was
so
full
of
corruption
back
in
the
day,
but
I'm
on
this
board.
Now
by
invitation
in
the
community
asked
by
the
chairwoman
and
you
Orlando
to
come,
let's
make
it
better
and
you
know
what
we
are
getting
we're
still
walking
in
the
same
crap
and
if
you
don't
want
poor
problems
in
this
community,
get
it
under
control.
E
Victor
DeMaio
4925
independence,
parkway
suite
195
I'm
here
representing
Malka
Isaac.
She
owns
a
building
in
the
downtown
CRA
area
and
I'm
here,
because
we've
had
I
tell
you
story
a
few
years
ago
before
most
of
this
board
has
been
here,
but
why
the
West
Campus
CRA?
Was
it
a
process
of
being
made
up?
E
The
boundaries
came
down:
Howard
Armenia,
cut
across
Cypress
wind
on
Rome
and
cut
out
a
huge
swath
of
West
Tampa
and
including
the
new
Jewish,
Community,
Center
and
other
areas.
They
all
came
to
me
and
said:
could
you
please
see
if
we
could
do
something
about
that?
Well,
at
the
time
the
staff
was
very
belligerent
as
they
are
with
me.
Now
they
won't
talk.
You
know
they
would
give
me
the
time
of
day.
They
said
that
trains
left
the
station.
We
ain't
changing
those
lines,
they're
done
and
I
said.
E
Okay,
we'll
see,
and
so
I
came
to
the
CRA
and
those
of
you
remember
say
you
look
you
you
guys
are
my
last
resource.
This
is
why
you
have
to
have
at
what
time
your
aides
work
for
the
mayor,
your
your
city,
council
of
attorney,
work
for
the
mayor.
The
staff
here
doesn't
work
for
you.
They
work
for
them
there.
So
this
is
why.
E
N
E
Wow,
that's
interesting
yeah.
Are
we
gonna?
Are
you
paying
their
money?
My
point
my
point
is
this:
to
be
responsible
to
be
responsive
to
the
person
who
has
a
problem?
I
haven't
been
able
to
get
to
first
base
until
I
was
able
to
talk
to
mr.
Bennett
to
his
credit.
He
did.
We
had
a
couple
meetings
and
he
said,
let's
see
what
I
can
do.
But
my
point
is
this:
the
Allen
building
here,
which
is
next
to
massive
Park.
They
see
it.
E
This
is
the
Massey
Park
redevelopment
project
or
a
fix-up
project
is
a
CRA
project
in
North
downtown
and
the
city
is
getting
ready
to
spend
1.7
million
dollars
to
fix
up
that
Park.
Our
building
is
right.
Next
to
that,
Park
Malcolm
will
come
up
here
and
explain
to
you
that
she
was
not
notified
when
I
do
zonings.
As
you
know,
I
have
to
notify
the
neighbors
with
250
feet.
I
have
to
bring
it
certified,
let
you
know
what's
going
on
so
the
problem.
Is
this
Malka
a
rich
mac
attire?
E
Her
attorney
at
the
time
spoke
with
mr.
Rosner,
and
he
said
well
anything
happens
that
Park
will
let
you
know
well
they've
had
three
meetings.
He
did
not
notify
her
when
I
went
to
the
staff
and
said
why
can't
we
incorporate
this
project
which,
as
you
see
here,
is
a
beautiful
project
where
she's
getting
ready
spent
two
million
dollars.
I
picked
up
this
building
that
was
built
in
1901.
Mr.
Posner
has
indicated
that
several
people
have
come
back
to
us
and
said
well
that
bill
is
gonna,
get
torn
down
the
developer.
E
L
A
E
You're
right,
this
is
a
series
of
points.
Ten
million
dollars
to
fix
up
this
park
is
a
CRA
project.
The
the
CRA
is
responsible
for
offending
it
right
now.
I
see
this
project
is
this:
this
is
lines
on
a
piece
of
paper.
They
haven't
done.
The
RFP
they
haven't
done
anything
to
move
this
project
forward.
All
we're
asking
is
that
we
can
sit
down
together
work
together.
We
have
a
lot
of
examples
of
restaurants
and
work
with
with
the
parks.
We
have
four
green
fields
at
Curt
assistant
park.
E
We
have
big
race
fish
camp
at
the
downtown
park.
We
have
the
balance
point
park
that
has
a
restaurant
associated
with
I.
Do
not
see
why
we
couldn't
make
this
a
lovely
project
with
a
lovely
restaurant
associated
with
the
park.
What
do
people
can
enjoy?
The
biggest
problem
we
have
right
is:
is
I'll
try
to
wrap
this
up
quickly.
The
plants
call
for
a
dog
park
to
be
put
right
next
to
the
restaurant.
This,
for
the
first
time,
this
new
part
is
going
to
have
tables
and
chairs
on
the
opposite
end
away
from
the
restaurant.
E
E
E
Rosner
I've
said
in
emails:
he
hasn't
responded
my
client
Malka
Isaac,
who
is
not
on
Facebook
or
Twitter
or
Instagram,
or
any
of
this
stuff
that
what
they
said
this,
where
the
notice
went
out
and
she
doesn't
scour
the
city
website
where
the
notices
went
out
and
she
can
address
that
herself
directly
to
you.
But
that's
the
issue
we
have
here.
Mr.
Rosner
promised
her
mr.
McIntyre
that
she'd
be
noticed.
They
weren't
noticed
again
so.
D
A
C
J
I'm
familiar
with
with
this
proposal:
it's
not
it's
not
at
any
rezoning
stage
or
anything
like
that.
What
that
would
preclude
us
from
from
chatting
about
it,
probably
and
mr.
D'amato
I-
have
chatted
about
it
in
the
abstract.
I
think
a
public-private
partnership
like
this
makes
great
sense.
There
is
precedent
for
it,
as
mr.
J
D'amato
pointed
out,
with
several
restaurants
adjoining
or
using
our
park
space
to
better
energize,
that
park
space
right
and
if
she's,
opening
she's
planning
on
opening
up
a
restaurant
or
her
tenant
would
open
up
a
restaurant
and
they
can
overflow
into
some
park.
Space
I
think
it
makes
great
sense
up
for
two
reasons:
number
one:
it
energizes
the
park
space
and
number
two.
J
So
if
we
can
assist
this
property
owner
in
getting
this
going
and
come
up
with,
obviously
there
has
to
be
lots
of
agreements
and
documents
and
I
think
there's
about
because
an
attorney
yourself,
you
know
lots
of
League
legalities
associated
with
this
joint
venture.
Frankly,
like
I,
say
in
the
abstract,
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
ready
to
sit
here
and
design
this
thing
and
that's
not
our
role
but
I'm
wholly
supportive
of
the
concept
in
the
abstract
and
I
would
strongly
encourage
mr.
Rosner
and
the
CAC
board
to
work
with
these
folks.
We.
E
Did
meet
with
mr.
Mike
peñalosa
the
Penan
s.
Excuse
me,
the
head
of
the
Neighborhood
Association
showed
him
all
the
things
you
have
in
front
of
you
now
and
he
was
blown
away.
He
says:
there's
nothing
in
that
part
of
North
downtown
we're
to
have.
We
can
have
breakfast
lunch
and
dinner
in
that
area
for
people
who
live
there
and
work
and
play
there
it's
you
know
they
have
mold
a
restaurant
which
is
to
be
flybar
and
they've
got
the
other
austria,
they're,
very
expensive
places.
This.
C
N
Summarize
I
just
want
to
clear
my
mind
up
a
little
bit
because
it's
two
points
that
you
brought
up
and
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
you
earlier.
You
talked
about
the
park
and
the
ballast
point
you
talked
about
her
assistant
Park.
If
I
recall
both
of
those
were
set
up
for
RFPs
and
say
if
I
had
to
do
a
due
diligence
to
get
with
the
wrap-up
or.
A
K
K
Yes,
that
Park
was
designed
with
a
retail
space
intended
to
be
rented
for
a
food
vendor,
and
the
city
owns
that
property
in
its
elise
property.
At
big
ray
same
thing,
city-owned
building
was
put
out
to
lease.
It
was
all
done
in
part
of
it.
It's
not
an
outside
agency.
It's
not
a
neighboring
party.
It
was
fully
owned.
City-Owned
building,
that's
fully
leased,
so
any
other
questions.
Mr.
A
O
K
Funding
a
party
for
the
yes
and
the
parks
department
was,
you
know,
charged
with
programming
and
upgrading
the
part
to
the
communities,
wants
and
needs
which
we
set
up
a
longer
process
for
listening
the
community
and
all
the
neighbors
about
what
they
wanted,
and
this
is
what
the
majority
had
wanted,
and
this
is
the
one
they
voted
on
and
mr.
Panisse
I
spoke
with
him
as
well,
and
he
didn't
have
the
same
opinion
for
what
he
just
said
and.
O
K
A
J
Think
your
point
is
well-taken,
mr.
chairman,
and
and
with
all
due
respect
to
mrs.
ulmann.
Yes,
the
city
owns
and
runs
the
park,
but
like
most
of
our
CRA
projects,
the
CRA
is
funding
this.
We
are
funding
this.
We
are
taking
a
big
part
of
it
and
we
have
to
coordinate
with
the
city
when
we
do
this.
Absolutely
virtually
every
major
project
that
you
or
ed
or
the
rest
of
them
have
are
like
that.
So
yes,
mr.
chairman,
it
could
be
both,
but
all
of
these
projects
straddled
the
line.
J
Are
you
beyond
the
point
of
no
return
on
your
design
on
this
and
and
have
and
I
don't
know,
who's
making
that
final
decision
in
terms
of
the
low
occasion
of
dog
run
and
also
the
possibility
of
sharing
some
of
the
space
with
the
adjacent
vendor?
Are
those?
Are
we
beyond
that
point?
It
didn't
sound
to
me
like
Massey
Park
has
beyond
that
we're.
K
K
J
K
B
Thank
You
chairman
I,
was
approached
on
to
casual
conversations
about
this,
and
I
was
shown
some
opportunities
for
what
I'll
just
call
a
change
order
to
give
it
a
nickname.
I
was
willing
to
with
staff,
to
take
a
look
at
the
history
of
where
we
are
today
and
what
the
new
intention
is
based
on
the
discussions
and
and
redrawing.
If
you
will
alls
I'm
asking
is
I
haven't
had
enough
time
to
go
through.
I
have
conversation
from
the
city
staff
side
I
heard
today.
B
The
public
comments
have
had
sidebar
comments,
I
understand
and
respect
councilman
ding
Felder's
comments
as
well
as
it
fits
into
this
project.
We
do
want
the
right
outcome.
That's
the
point
I'm
trying
to
make,
but
I
will
say
that
originally
the
community
offered
from
what
I'm
understanding
a
desired
outcome,
it's
okay
to
have
a
change.
If
one,
the
community
still
agrees
with
that
change.
To
that,
we
can
afford
to
have
that
change
and
three.
J
J
B
B
B
D
Know
me
watching
City
Council
for
a
lot
of
years
and
being
at
City
Council.
You
know
it's
good
to
have
somebody
who
well
bargain
who
will
listen.
It
will
make
friends
with
everybody
and
I'm
glad
you
are
doing
that
with
this
council
and
no
time
is
tough,
get
city
staff
sometimes,
but
we're
trying
to
make
everybody
happy.
Sometimes
we
can't
meet
everybody
100%
happy,
but
we
can
come
as
close
as
we
can
that
be
good
and
I'm
glad
that
you
make
enough
to
come
back
in
a
couple
of
weeks
to
do.
D
B
G
One
quick
thing
and
I
don't
want
to
jump
into
your
design,
but
it
someone
mentioned
the
possibility
of
an
RFP
on
this.
If
that
happens,
it
seems
to
me
that
this
is
different
than
the
other
concessions
that
you
all
mentioned.
The
others
were
concessions
that
allow
vendors
to
lease
or
take
over
space,
that
was
that
was
owned
by
the
city
to
to
cook
and
produce
food
and
sell
food.
It
looks
to
me
from
the
maps
that
the
only
space
that
this
vendor
is
looking
for
is
to
put
tables,
so
it
I
don't
know.
G
If
there's
another
example
of
that
through
in
the
city
where,
where
it
seems
more,
like
a
you
know,
some
some
of
the
outdoor
restaurants
allow
I,
think
the
city
allows
tables
and
chairs
on
on
sidewalks
or
other
public
spaces.
So
it
seems
to
me
that
it's
totally
different
because
they're
not
asking
to
put
a
kitchen
or
or
anything
else
in
the
public
right
away.
It's
just
the
tables
and
chairs.
T
Thank
you
for
listening
to
us.
It
is
not
mr.
I
think
said
that
it
is
not
too
late.
Fortunately,
the
trend
has
not
left
the
station,
yet
we
can
redesign
it
my
architect,
I
hired
one
will
pay
for
it
and
we
talked
to
several
people
in
the
community.
They
did
not
know
it
was
that
opportunity
they
would
love
to
have
it.
They
were
told
by
mr.
Rosner
that
I
have
to
knock
down.
My
building
is
coming
down.
It's
an
old
building.
T
It's
a
beautiful
building
I
want
to
make
it
look
the
way
it
looked
100
years
ago.
It
will
be
an
amenity
to
the
community
I
and
my
attorney
Richard
McIntyre
met
with
mr.
walls
near
about
a
year
ago,
rich
of
making
tower
handed
to
mr.
Rosner
his
business
card,
and
mr.
was
not
promised
us
to.
Let
us
know
what's
going
on
with
the
park,
he
did
not.
Let
us
know,
I
had
no
idea.
I
am
83
years
old
and
I.
T
Don't
get
notifications
that
go
and
so
Media
I'm,
sorry
I,
don't
know
to
go
on
social
media.
I
would
have
been
that
had
they
known
that
lady
he
mentioned
is
not
my
representative.
She
was
not
authorized
to
speak
on
my
behalf.
The
only
representative
is
my
lawyer,
Richard
McIntyre
and
I.
Neither
of
us
received
notice,
even
though
we
spoke
with
mr.
Posner.
He
promised
to
give
us
a
notice,
and
mr.
McIntyre
handed
in
his
business
card.
I
called
mr.
Rosner
on
several
occasion
and
did
not
get
a
return
call
on
one
occasion.
I
caught
him.
T
We
talked
about
certain
things.
I
asked
him
what
happened
with
the
seller?
You
promised
me,
he
said
they
don't
have
it
here.
What's
going
on
with
the
park,
nothing
yet,
and
he
never
called
me
back.
So
we
can
just
wick
it
a
little
bit
and
my
architect
will
do
the
work
and
we'll
move
the
dog
park
to
the
side
and
put
the
tables
next
to
the
restaurant,
and
my
building
is
not
coming
down.
The
developer
from
out
of
town
wants
the
building
down,
so
we
can
put
a
big
highlight
there.
T
My
building
is
staying
and
it
would
be
an
amenity
to
the
community.
We
talked
to
people
in
the
neighborhood,
they
say
we
would
love
it.
We
did
not
know
that
or
was
the
possibility
to
do
it.
The
people
in
the
neighborhood
support
it
and
I.
Ask
your
help.
Let's
do
you
have
there
all
the
things
that
the
architect
prepared,
what
it
will
look
like
help
me
preserve
an
old
building
for
myself,
for
the
sake
of
tampers,
of
yourself
of
the
community
of
the
community
and
I.
C
T
C
N
T
A
A
K
N
A
We're
not
there
second
motion
Julie
made
seconded
by
Councilman
Brandon
seconded
by
councilmember
area,
Miranda,
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
I
have
a
joan
number
7.
Second,
we
have
a
motion
made
by
Councilman
defaulter
seconded
by
Councillor
Magoo's.
Was
it
on
councilman
masks,
alcohol
in
favor,
say
aye
I'm
number,
eight,
a
motion
made
by
Councilman
Maniscalco
seconded.
C
J
Michelle,
maybe
you
know
so.
This
item
has
a
list
of
one
two,
three
four
plus
six,
seven
eight
nine
folks
to
include
it,
says,
ratify
the
appointment
of
these
applicants
for
a
two-year
term.
Is
that
our
other
folks,
rotating
off
by
natural
attrition?
Is
this
a
clean
sweep?
What
what's
going
on
in
that's
a
lot
of
folks
at
one
time,
their.
L
N
L
J
L
J
So
the
bottom
line
is,
we
have
continuity,
there's
another
10
or
more
folks
who
are
staying
on
and
no
let's
go.
I
didn't
want
to
see
a
clean
sweep
with
nobody,
knowing
what
the
heck
was
happening.
They're.
A
D
D
Mr.
chairman,
we
had
a
previous
motion
me
to
the
last
CIA
meeting
reference.
The
environmental
part
of
the
nine
points
in
detail
that
I
want
as
far
as
development
of
the
environmental
pond
or
a
retention
pond
at
26th,
Street
2020,
2nd
Street
and
26th
Avenue
to
26th
Street
I'm.
In
that
motion
to
have
it
come
back
by
November
14th,
with
a
detailed
report
on
the
environmental
pond
with
Gene
dunk
and
making
that
presentation.
D
Sheriff
says
we
are
here
to
see
the
CRE
board
and
it
is
our
option
to
go
forward
with
items.
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
motion
for
the
needs
Assessor
to
be
completed
by
the
Parks
Recreation
Department,
along
with
it
Johnson
regards
to
a
plan
for
a
renovation
at
Fair,
Oaks,
Park
or
rebuild
of
that
particular
part.
I
would
like
to
this
report.
We
presented
at
the
December
14
regular
session
meeting.
D
A
D
And
not
least,
mr.
chairman,
as
you
know,
we've
gone
round
and
round.
We've
had
several
support.
The
reference
to
the
Alborz
Park
cultural
enrichment,
Senate
we've
had
contributions
from
the
county,
the
state
representatives
and
some
of
our
legislators
that
come
on
board
who
want
to
help
out
with
this
project.
The
general
fund
is
already
committed,
1
million
dollars
project
the
CC
Ward
did
meet.
There
was
a
meeting
the
chair
was
asked
to
come
and
make
a
presentation
that
presentation
was
made
that
they
were
willing
to
be
on
board
with
this
project.
N
C
A
O
N
Something
came
out:
the
Tampa
Bay
Times
this
morning
about
baseball
warrants,
Oakland
drops
two
routes
and
I,
don't
know
if
the
CRE
or
not,
but
at
the
end
it
says:
Rebecca
Kaplan.
The
city
council
president,
recently
released
a
statement
and
reads
in
part
the
interests
of
reducing
stripes
and
litigation
in
Oakland
City
Council,
as
unanimous
ask
for
administration
to
meet
directly
with
accounting
leaders
regarding
strategies
to
resolve
problems
regarding
our
shared
public
property.
My
question
to
myself
is:
how
can
public
property
be
shared?
G
To
Fair
Oaks
Park
that
we
talked
about
a
minute
ago,
several
folks
have
mentioned
that
there
are
rats
in
the
building.
I
guess
we
can
include
this
under
CRA,
but
is
it
possible
that
somebody
could
give
us
an
update
on
why
there
are
rats
and
and
how
we
can
get
rid
of
it?
Should
we
use
CRE
money
to
get
rid
of
them
and
hired
exterminator?
We.
G
A
G
And
then
the
other
thing
similar
to
councilman
goos
I,
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
the
two
chief
Bennett
and
the
staff
for
working
with
us.
I
know
we
had
a
lot
of
expectations
and
discussions
in
the
beginning
and
I
think
we're
getting
close
to
getting
to
the
smooth
part,
hopefully
and
as
we
get
through
the
plan
and
everything
I
think
we'll
all
figure
out
where
we
are
and
we'll
be
all
on
the
same
page
and
I
know
we
don't
always
agree
either.
A
Yes,
chief,
thank
you
very,
very
much,
miss
van
Lowe.
Thank
you
very
much
and
all
the
other
CRA
CAC
members.
Thank
you
very
much
for
this
comprehensive
discussion
today.
I
do
appreciate
it.
We
will
see
you
in
the
future
on
the
28th.
So,
let's,
let's
be
ready
for
questions
and
answers
motion
of
receiving
file.
Okay,
we
are
adjourned
until
6
o'clock.
This
okay
motion
to
receiving
file
I
got
a
motion
to
receive
a
filed
by
counsel
Miranda.
Second
bite
counts
of
McMann.
Scott
go
all
favor
any
opposed
motion.
A
O
Actually,
you
were
supposed
to
be
done
with
your
workshop
about
a
half
hour
ago.
In
the
best
of
times
that
being
said,
counsel,
there
are
a
bunch
of
alternatives
that
you
face.
First
of
all,
just
to
share
with
you
have
been
in
touch
with
several
attorneys
from
the
legal
department
who
wanted
to
participate,
but
because
it's
been
running
into
the
afternoon,
they
do
have
a
meeting
scheduled
scheduled
for
the
afternoon.
O
You
also
do
have
a
lengthy
meeting
that
begins
at
six
o'clock
tonight
and
I'm
very
cognizant
of
that
you're
well
into
the
lunch
hour
as
it
is,
so
your
options
are
to
remove
the
workshop
and
just
have
it
rescheduled
or
that
being
the
case,
suggestion
had
been
made
to
me:
I'll
pass
it
on
to
you.
If
counsel
is
willing
to
do
it
tomorrow
morning,
between
9:00
and
11:00,
or
ten
and
twelve
or
Monday
or
Monday
morning,
then
we
can,
but
in
the
meantime,
what.
A
O
O
M
Your
pleasure,
Council
III
think
we
need
to
reset
it,
but
not
just
at
a
time
certain,
but
a
realistic
time.
Certain
way
I
saw
10:00
a.m.
I
was
like
that
ain't
gonna
happen.
You
know
what
I
mean
so
I
can't
do
tomorrow
or
Monday,
but
but
I
would
suggest.
We
said
it,
but
at
a
realistic
time.
Certainly
yes.