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It
is
with
great
pleasure
that
I
present
this
accommodation
to
mr.
Brunson
on
behalf
of
the
template,
City
Council,
and
we
would
like
to
congratulate
you
on
over
30
years
of
dedicated
service
and
contribution
to
the
Tampa
Bay
community.
As
a
professional
photographer
in
1988,
the
Florida
Sentinel
bulletin
newspaper
gave
you
your
first
star
when
it
hired
us
a
new
slash
event
photographer
in
1992.
You
started
Brunson
photographers
and
have
gone
on
to
be
one
of
the
most
recognizable
respectful
photographer
in
the
Tampa
Bay
Communion,
the
Tampa
City
Council
stand
best
wishes
to
us.
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You've
moved
forward
with
your
commitment
to
touch
lives
and
bring
smiles
to
so
many
in
our
community.
That
will
make
the
city
of
Tampa
a
better
place
to
live,
work
and
play
always
remember
if
God
helps
you
can
give
freely
and
generously
of
your
blessing
that
God
has
entrusted
to
you
be
blessed.
Congratulations!
Thank
you
for
all.
You
have
done
in
the
city
of
Tampa
and
you
have
taken
cleaning
my
photo
and
every
time.
I
call
this
a
similar
carving,
yeah
I'm,
still
waiting.
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B
And
I
want
to
give
a
shout-out
to
the
Florida
Sentinel.
They
were
at
the
beginning
of
me
taking
photography
and
they
were
behind
me
100%
mr.
Andrews
and
life,
and
he
was
the
third
and
civil
Kate
Wales
they
gave
me
my
start.
I
always
have
have
a
place
in
my
heart.
For
them
they
mean
a
lot
to
me.
They're
like
family.
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G
Minutes
have
been
set
aside
this
morning
for
citizens
speaking
about
matters
that
are
not
set
for
a
public
hearing.
If
you
are
here
to
speak
on
a
matter
that
is
set
for
a
public
hearing,
you
will
have
that
opportunity
later
during
today's
meeting
speakers
addressing
items
on
the
agenda
will
be
given
preference
before
citizens
speaking
on
non-agenda
matters,
each
speaker
is
given
three
minutes.
G
C
Morning,
mint
is
not
Tampa
Florida,
as
the
new
administration
is
going
to
be
coming
in
one
way
or
another
who
serve
is
gonna.
Get
that
mayorship
position.
Whosoever
is
gonna,
be
representing
different
districts
throughout
the
city.
One
thing
needs
to
be
said
about
this
City
Council.
In
its
totality
it's
a
do-nothing,
City,
Council,
plain
and
simple.
The
city
is
an
automatic.
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C
Look
downstairs
a
mayor
of
a
city,
that's
called
an
African
women
in
2018,
call
them
black
women
and
calling
for
the
Lynch
in
the
open,
lynching
of
a
young
African
man,
and
you
have
seven
people
up.
There
say
not
one
thing,
and
then
you
got
one
person
talking
about
decorum.
Look
inside
this
building
I'll
do
nothing
City
Council
and
look
at
decorum.
Look
around
you,
City
Council,
one
billion
dollar
budget
deficit
dirty
carpet,
dirty
walls,
a
dirty
ugly
building.
C
Let's
talk
about
that
kind
of
decorum,
a
budget
that
consists
of
millions
of
dollars
every
week
and
not
twenty
six
percent
of
it
goes
to
the
African
population
or
the
African
community,
do-nothing
City
Council,
and
we
have
a
representative
for
district
five
that
does
absolutely
positively
nothing
for
District,
five,
absolutely
positively,
nothing
for
District,
five,
that's
a
certain
kind
of
reality.
You
got
bicycle
lanes
that
if
you
look
outside
your
window
wasted
money
wasted
taxpayers
dollars,
you
don't
see
a
bicycle
ride
in
one
of
those
lanes
for
no
reason
whatsoever.
C
I
hope
the
new
City
Council
and
the
new
mayor
comes
in.
Do
something
that's
a
reflection
of
what
the
city
needs,
not
all
the
police,
brutality
and
the
racism
and
all
other
stupidness
that
go
with
it.
You
got
an
ugly
mayor
downstairs
that
brags
about
he
rides
around
and
an
egg
spent
automobile.
You
should
be
ashamed
of
that.
That's
like
me,
bragging
saying,
I'm
riding
in
the
devil's
carriage.
Oh,
the
devil's
carriage
belongs
to
me
now
and
you
got
a
new
incoming
mayor
potential
incoming
mayor.
C
That's
out
in
the
hood
pimping
black
people,
the
floor,
joists
funeral
pimping,
black
people,
man.
This
have
to
stop.
This
wickedness
have
to
stop
and
you
got
a
City
Council
that
meets
on
Thursday.
That
can't
even
be
the
time-being
time
for
work.
What
kind
of
job
is
that?
No
respect
for
your
constituents.
J
Good
morning
Council,
my
name
is
Jim
Jim
Burke
executive.
Vice
president
of
strategic
property
partners.
We
have
a
number
of
items
on
the
agenda
today
that
are
on
the
non
public
hearing
and
we
have
one
on
the
public
hearing.
I
just
want
to
thank
your
staff
for
working
with
us
on
some
very
complicated
matters.
That's
taking
a
long
time
to
get
them
to
this
point,
but
we
do
appreciate
the
hard
work
and
dedication
of
your
staff
in
working
through
these
matters
than
bringing
these
matters
to
Council,
and
we
hope
that
we'll
will
get
approval
today.
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J
B
B
I
would
hear
the
other
I
won't
see
it
the
law
because
they
called
D
an
outcast
saying
this
is
a
man
who
no
man
seek
after
they'll,
say
the
Lord
behold
I
will
bring
again
the
captivity
of
Jacob
Kent
and
have
mercy
on
his
dwelling
place,
and
the
city
shall
be
built
upon
her
own
heat
and
the
pellet
children
remained
after
the
melody
are,
and
out
of
them
shall
perceive
Thanksgiving
and
the
voice
of
them
that
make
it
make
it
merit.
I
will
multiply
them,
they
just
they
shall
not
be.
B
Few
I
will
also
glorify
them
and
it
shall
not
be
small.
Their
children
also
shall
be
as
a
4-time
and
congregation
shall
be
established
before
them
and
I
will
punish
all
the
oppressed
them
all
them
that
oppress
them.
Their
noble
shall
be
asked
himself
and
their
governor
shall
receive
from
the
myths
of
them
and
I
will
cause
him
to
draw
near,
and
he
shall
approach
unto
me
well.
Who
is
this
death?
Indeed
his
heart
to
approach?
Unto
me
saith,
the
Lord
and
ye
shall
be
my
people
and
I
will
be
your
God
behold.
B
I
want
y'all
to
respect
this
man.
Coffee
stand
up
for
people
and
I
know
y'all,
don't
want
to
respect
him,
but
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
donation
Bab
to
all
of
you.
People
don't
respect
people
like
me
and
you
but
God
respects
us
all
and
I
want
you
to
take
it.
Look
you
have
the
gift
from
God
Almighty.
Alright!
Thank
you.
Brother!
God
bless
you
man!
J
K
B
J
I'm
Harold
Mudd,
REE,
Harold's,
rentals
I
do
business
in
a
county
and
around
here
I'm
a
tent
rental
business.
We
just
finished
the
Blues
Fest
in
Saint
Pete
and
some
of
the
stuff
that
you
have
in
these
regulations,
codes
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
them,
are
being
put
by
together
that
people
who
don't
even
know
what
tents
are
don't
know
the
different
times.
That's
never
put
up
a
tent
I
just
handed
the
document
there.
The
shows
I,
think
I
know
what
I'm
talking
about.
J
I
would
like
you
to
get
people
who
know
how
to
put
up
a
tent
to
put
these
codes
together,
not
somebody
that
has
a
police
record
or
something
else
get
somebody
who's
qualified
who
knows
tents.
The
biggest
problem
we're
having
in
a
tent
industry
is
outrageous
fees.
I
just
did
the
blues
fest
I
had
over
40
tents
up
in
the
air.
The
fee
was
a
hundred
and
sixty
four
dollars,
regardless.
If
I
put
up
one
tenth
or
two
tents,
some
of
your
fees
are
proposals.
J
There
would
put
us
out
of
business
because
our
customers
cannot
fail.
These
codes
and
regulations.
Look
like
they're
meant
to
put
us
out
of
business.
The
amount
of
people
employed
in
the
special
event
industry
is
not
a
lot
was
probably
numbers
over
50,000
statewide.
You
cannot
put
us
out
of
business.
We
want
realistic
regulations
put
together
by
people
who
know
what
they're
talking
about
and
again
you
have
these
pop-up
tents
sold
by
Walmart
made
in
China
they're,
not
even
fireproof.
J
There's
a
storm
coming
in
tomorrow
at
4
o'clock,
11:00
I
guarantee
every
pop-up
tent,
that's
going
to
be
in
st.
Pete
will
be
on
the
ground
because
they
don't
stake
them
down.
They
don't
miss.
They
won't
even
meet
the
code.
What
I
propose
that
all
these
pop-up
tents
are
sold
and
Walmart?
If
you
use
for
private
property,
it's
fine.
If
it
comes
into
the
public,
it
has
to
be
the
same
codes
and
that
the
tent
industry
practices
now
I
just
talked
to
my
crew,
we're
gonna
double
stake
and
triple
stake.
J
L
Good
morning
my
name
is
Jean
Leonard
I'm
with
Midway
tents,
I'm
here
regarding
item
number
79
in
in
this
item
it
says
Fire,
Marshal's
inspections,
the
type
of
fiber
being
used
does
not
meet
code.
How
many?
How
quickly
can
it
tent
be
evacuated?
These
are.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
types
of
tents.
Some
are
structural
tents
if
you've
ever
been
to
a
festival,
you'll
notice,
most
of
the
festival
tents
do
not
have
sidewalls
on
so
it
can
be
easily
evacuated.
L
The
tents
that
are
going
up,
for
example,
at
the
Super,
Bowl
and
I,
think
a
lot
of
these.
The
codes
that
you're
trying
to
implement
or
having
to
deal
with
the
Super
Bowl
and
the
structural
tents,
which
are
tents
that
are
going
to
be
needed
to
be
put
up
by
engineers
that
are
designed
by
engineers
and
put
up
with
cranes,
do
not
apply
to
the
small
ten-by-ten
tents.
By
implementing
these
codes
for
these
structural
tents
should
not
be
the
same
as
a
smaller,
tent
I
understand.
L
A
lot
of
you
guys
are
leaving
here
in
the
next
couple
weeks
and
a
new
new
board
members
are
coming
so
we're
asking.
If
we
can
table
this
or
postpone
any
decision
being
made
on
this
until
we
have
a
chance
to
educate
the
council
members
in
the
future,
before
you
guys
make
a
decision,
you
know
give
it
us
an
opportunity
to
react.
A
tour
come
back.
F
G
L
G
M
J
B
Morning,
my
name
is
our
Richard
Romeo
13:09,
East,
North,
Bay,
Tampa
Florida
I'm,
here
to
address
the
order
of
demolition
of
our
property.
I
have
a
few
questions
for
the
City
Council,
and
maybe
you
might
be
able
to
lead
me
in
the
right
direction.
This
letter
said
order
of
demolition
I'd
like
to
know
what
are
the
alleged
criteria
to
cause
a
building
or
partial
building
to
be
demoed?
B
Also,
I
would
like
to
ask:
who
was
the
inspector
that
inspect
my
my
partial
house,
that
I'm
trying
to
rebuild
I
need
to
know
some
of
these
questions
right
here
and
why
I
have
not
got
a
copy
of
the
of
the
inspection
or
the
name
of
the
inspector?
None
of
these
were
presented
to
me
at
all.
Who
do
I
need
to
find
out
in
which
direction
do
I
need
to
go.
Sir.
C
B
E
Know
we
it's
hard
for
us
to
answer
anything
when
we
don't
have
any
documentation
on
our
hand.
Well,
I
did
get
to
your
fun
office
and
they
did
sign,
got
it
I
understand
that
I
haven't
seen
it
okay,
because
if
it
was
given
to
mr.
Riddick
mr.
Rick
was
working
on
in
his
staff.
So
for
us
we
can't
answer
questions
here
on
a
constituent
concern.
I
would
defer
to
mr.
Riddick
in
his
office
as
to
what
is
happening
and
I
would
suggest
that
you
would
meet
with
mr.
E
B
E
E
Saying
that
we
don't
have
debates
or
conversations
with
our
constituents
here,
if
you
have
a
constituent
service
issue,
which
is
what
you
have,
we
typically
take
it
up
with
staff
and
the
administration.
Based
on
your
concerns,
since
you've
already
contacted
a
council
member
I
think
that
we
should
wait
for
the
council
members
office
to
decide
what's
going
on
with
it.
That's
how
we
typically
do
things
I
understand.
G
B
B
A
L
A
O
O
Here
recently,
I've
met
with
a
number
of
you
to
discuss
some
concerns
that
the
Strad
Center
has
with
the
AIRC
our
project,
which
will
be
constructed
right
directly,
south
of
the
Performing
Arts
Center
and
I'm
I'm
here
to
report
some
good
progress
being
made
yesterday,
I
met
with
Bob
McDonough
and
spoke
item
by
item
on
the
concerns
that
we
have
regarding
the
tower.
Some
of
the
concerns
that
I've
brought
forward
to
you
and
I've
received
assurances
from
him
that
they
will
be
addressed
and
they
sound
like
they
were
going
to
be
addressed
to
our
satisfaction.
O
So
today's
good
news
we're
we're
here
to
support
I,
think
there
may
be
an
item
on
the
agenda
today.
That
is
regarding
the
right
away
and
perhaps
the
release
of
some
land
to
contribute
to
that
and
then
I
know,
there's
another
item
that
was
continued
to
next
week
and
I'm
here
today
to
say
that
the
partnership
is
strong
and
we're
working
very
well
together
and
we're
looking
forward
to
a
positive
outcome
and
another
addition
to
improve
streets,
a
larger
arrival
plaza
and
downtown
residents
in
proximity
to
the
Stratos
Center.
Thank
you
very
much
good.
J
Thank
You
chairman
Jorge
Martinez
City,
Attorney's
Office.
We
could
have
a
walk
on.
This
is
a
resolution
approving
the
execution
by
the
mayor
and
add
to
station'
by
the
city
clerk
of
a
termination
of
an
unsecured
rights
agreements
between
the
city
of
Tampa
and
CM
JP
LLC
related
to
central
Ybor,
complex
and
providing
an
effective
date.
J
The
reason
for
the
termination
members
counsel
is
that,
for
several
years
after
cmj
took
over
ownership
of
the
central
evil
complex,
they
were
paying
a
yearly
amount
that
that
agreement
providing
for
that
yearly
amount
would
terminate
if
they
sold
the
asset
and
what
happened
here.
Cmj
did
not
sell
the
asset
in
its
name.
They
sold
the
corporation
to
a
third
party,
which
is
the
current
owner
current
owner
in
an
instance
where
they
would
have
received
title
to
the
property
would
have
done.
J
J
McDonough
has
spoken
through
them
and
they
have
established
that
had
they
gone
through
the
process
of
a
conveyance,
the
audit
would
show
that
there
would
be
new,
among
swap
for
the
city
they
have
offered
to
pay
$100,000
for
termination
and
and
our
relationship
the
city's
relationship
with
central
Eve
or
down
forever,
because
I
understand
whatever
payments
were
left
on.
The
guarantees
were
made
last
year.
Okay,.
E
E
J
K
E
B
B
J
E
J
A
B
A
A
A
K
F
G
F
F
J
Would
be
perfectly
happy
to
address
that
the
one
outstanding
issue
is
where
we
relocate
the
police
forces
and
I'm
working
to
do
that
and
I
need
a
little
more
time.
I
Tico
is
more
than
happy
to
attest
to
the
fact
that
there
are
only
and
sole
reason
for
buying
this
would
be
for
a
solar
farm.
It's
not
a
an
investment
by
them
or
a
land
slip.
There
were
some
things
in
the
editorial
the
other
day,
which
I
found
interesting
about
talking
about
the
potential,
for
it
is
the
mixed-use
project.
J
It's
not
near
an
exit
at
the
interstate.
It
does
not
have
utility
services
so
that
land
is
not
appropriate
for
any
of
those
uses,
but
I
will
have
more
information
for
you
next
week,
because
the
one
outstanding
issue
that
I
haven't
solved
yet
is
a
relocation
for
the
police
forces
of
which
there
are
six.
F
A
A
A
A
B
A
A
P
A
G
You
very
much
mr.
chair
I
move
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
by
the
city
of
Tampa
renaming
and
designating
that
certain
portion
of
old
Water
Street
extending
from
South
Franklin
Street
to
Channelside
Drive
within
the
city
of
Tampa,
Hillsborough,
County
Florida,
so
that
it
will
be
known
as
Water
Street,
repealing
all
ordinances
and
conduct.
Q
Morning,
counsel,
Kristen
Morin
legal
department:
this
is
the
second
reading
on
the
comprehensive
rewrite
of
the
city's
tree
and
landscape
code.
Before
we
go
into
the
public
hearing
component,
there
is
one
request
for
change
from
the
administration.
We
originally
had
hoped
that
this
second
reading
would
be
scheduled
for
April
4th.
That's
actually
got
pushed
back
to
the
day
of
the
18th.
Q
In
addition,
we've
been
working
on
training,
materials
and
and
starting
the
process
of
trying
to
train
staff
and
setting
up
training
modules
for
our
boards
and,
as
we've
gone
through,
that
process,
we've
determined
that
we're
flying
need
a
little
bit
more
time
to
get
this
successfully
and
fully
implemented.
We've
also
had
a
lot
of
questions
from
property
owners
along
those
lines
as
well.
Q
So
we
would
like
to
ask
for
a
June
first
effective
date
on
this
ordinance,
just
to
give
us
a
little
bit
more
ramp
up
time
to
get
both
property
owners,
business
professionals
and
our
staff
and
boards
all
ready
for
this.
Pretty
comprehensive
change.
I
am
here.
If
you
have
any
questions
and
if
not
I
know
there
are
some
people
from
the
public
that
are
hoping
to
speak
to
you
today,.
E
Q
Has
changed
in
the
title?
It'll
be
the
same.
You
read
last
time,
but
as
far
as
the
the
changes
that
you
received
in
the
the
memo
as
we
went
through,
there's
been
a
lot
of
revisions
to
this
I
missed
one
of
the
changes
that
you
had
directed
at
the
February
hearing.
When
you
transmitted
the
Planning
Commission,
it
was
correct
in
what
went
to
the
Planning
Commission,
but
it
got
missed
in
the
final
draft
of
the
ordinance,
and
that
was
just
to
make
the
new
setbacks.
The
new
automatic
setbacks
applicable
to
all
lots.
Q
Q
A
H
Q
There
is
a
change
from
current
code
to
the
new
code.
Current
code
contemplates
a
two
inch
caliper
replacement
tree.
The
new
code
requires
a
two
and
a
half
inch
caliper
replacement
tree,
but
that
has
been
true
throughout
every
version
of
this
new
code.
It's
been
the
two
and
a
half
inch
caliber,
so
that
has
not.
That
has
not
changed
since
your
readings.
That
is
a
change
from
old
code
to
maybe.
H
Being
a
little
on
the
realistic
side,
I,
don't
know
the
life
cycle
of
a
2
3
a
2
inch
tree
if
it's
trent
implanted
from
one
to
another
and
a
life
cycle
of
a
to
an
end
and
a
half
inch
tree
being
transferred
to
another
cycle,
the
availability
of
variables
of
life
and
not
extending
the
size
of
the
tree
growing
other
words.
The
tree
is
gonna
die
between
a
2
and
a
2
and
a
half,
and
that's
what
I'm
interested
in.
H
N
Good
morning,
Council
Kathy
Bette
natural
resources
coordinator
in
reference
to
the
2
inch
tree
to
the
two
and
a
half
inch
tree.
The
2
inch
tree
is
typically
a
30
gallon
grown
in
a
30
gallon
container.
The
two
and
a
half
typically
a
45,
gallon
I,
did
do
some
research
from
local
tree
growers
and
they
have
sent
out
tree
brokers
throughout
the
state
to
get
cost
comparisons,
and
it
came
to
about
seventy
to
a
hundred
dollar
difference
between
the
two
inch
to
two
and
a
half.
H
N
H
N
H
L
H
F
H
Asking
a
lot,
of
course,
but
yes,
you
are
how
we
prepare
to
hire
different
people
who
do
because,
as
I
understand
and
read
part
of
this,
you
have
an
inspection
to
see.
If
that's
really
go
the
sides
of
the
lid
and
then
you
have
a
rien,
spec,
ssin
I
guess
to
see
if
they
cut
it
down
and
you
have
to
have
a
permit
in
my
correct.
Yes,.
N
It's
a
affidavit
that
the
tree
service
signs
that
says
they
will
be
pruning
a
branch
for
inches
or
over
in
diameter
and
that
they
will
be
pruning
it
to
the
American,
National
Standards
Institute
and
will
issue
the
permit
and
then
do
random
checks.
They're
all
certified
licensed
arborist,
so
we're
assuming
that
doing
the
right
thing.
So.
H
H
But
I
want
to
be
complete
when
I,
when
I,
when
I
vote
you
eight
or
whatever
and
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
all
I,
don't
the
next
administration
come
in
and
say:
hey
I
gotta
hire
some
people
not
on
the
tree.
You're
gonna
give
me
some
money
and
I
said
well
dummy
charlie.
When
you
had
the
chance,
you
didn't
answer
questions
we.
F
N
Two
years
currently
right
now,
calipers
measured
six
inches
above
the
root
ball
of
the
tree,
so
that
two
inches
is
measured
there.
So
we're
really
getting
one-inch
trees
by
the
time
they're
being
planted.
We're
trying
to
get
a
true
two
inch
tree
in
the
ground
and
all
of
our
calculations
based
on
mitigation,
are
based
on
a
two
inch
as
opposed
to
a
one
inch
and
then,
when
you
measure
at
DBH
at
two
inches
six
inches
above
the
ground,
tapir.
F
A
F
J
Morning,
counsel,
Steve
McClean,
II
I'm
really
here
to
talk
about
only
two
issues:
one
is
the
two
inch
tree
versus
a
two
and
a
half
inch
tree
requirements
and
I
know
that
it's
not
the
expense,
it's
the
availability.
So
when
you
go
to
the
nurseries,
they
grow
2
inch
4
inch,
6
inch,
8
inch,
trees,
they
don't
grow
normally.
J
Anything
over
24
inches
would
require
a
permit.
They
don't
have
the
staff
to
do
it.
You're
gonna
make
anybody
and
anyone
who's
trimming
a
tree
and
I'm,
not
on
my
grand
trees.
This
is
less
than
a
grand
tree
obtain
a
permit,
which
is
it
takes
time.
It
takes
money.
A
typical
homeowner
is
not
going
to
go
through
that
process
if
they
hire
some
yard
men
or
their
own
yard,
man
to
trim
trees
and
they
respectfully
shouldn't
be
knowing
what
they're
doing
they're
not
going
to
destroy
the
tree.
J
So
we've
run
some
numbers
and
the
effective
number
of
persons
you'd
have
to
hire
to
handle
the
current
workload
would
be
ten
new
inspectors
just
to
process
the
tree
trimming
side
so
respectfully
request
that
you
remove
that
provision
requires
a
permit
for
tree
trimming.
Those
limbs-
and
this
is
on
private
property
that
doesn't
apply
to
right
away
trees.
So
those
those
two
issues
are
they
kind
of
loom
large
over
over
the
implementation
of
the
process.
A
J
A
R
M
J
J
F
B
501
400
North
Tampa
Street,
so
we
1040
a
two
inch
or
two
and
a
half
inch
tree
are
both
able
to
be
planted
at
thirty
gallon
and
the
replacement
requirement
is
two
and
a
half
inch
or
thirty
gallon,
which
technically
permits
a
two
inch
tree
still
so
I
in
my
mind
as
a
practitioner.
There's
no
real
change
in
the
size,
because.
B
G
B
F
G
F
J
B
B
The
plank
placement
was
over
originally
based
on
DBH,
which
is
four
and
a
half
feet
above
the
ground
which
to
adjust
for
that
dimensional
difference.
You
usually
subtract
a
half
inch
to
an
inch,
so
that
gets
it
to
the
two
inch
DBH
with
the
two
and
a
half
inch
caliper.
But
what
mitigation
now
is
based
on
canopy,
so
it's
and
the
calculation
on
how
the
replacement
is
crunch
now
as
canopy.
So
it's
like
speaking
to
the
inch
requirement
is
not
that
big,
a
deal
that
in
my
mind,
but.
F
P
B
Hitting
supplier
demand
issues
and
we
moved
and
collectively
went
down
to
two
and
a
half
30
gallon
or
maybe
was
two
and
a
half
45,
and
then
one
of
those
realized
that
two
and
a
half
can
still
fit
in
a
30.
It
just
became
to
have
2:30.
Go
that
part
I,
don't
know.
I'm
just
want
to
point
out
that
two-and-a-half
or
thirty
gallon
is
the
same
as
two
exactly.
F
E
F
E
E
All
right
did
you
during
the
first
sit,
listen,
I,
read
this
whole.
Damn
thing:
okay,
I!
Don't
remember
you
come
in
here
talking
about
this
two
weeks
ago.
So
on
my
question
is
can't
this
move
forward
in
a
way
that
can
you
know
in
the
practical
application
of
some
of
these
things
be
done
in
a
different
way
because
we're
not
going
to
measure,
but
let
me
finish:
we're
not
going
to
measure
what
the
supply
and
demand
of
trees
are.
We
can
only
put
things
in
the
ordinance
based
on
what
we
want
for
the
canopy.
E
E
I
got
it,
and
my
point
is:
is
that
that
was
there
before
there's
a
lot
of
different
measurements,
that
matrix
is
a
pretty
large
matrix,
can
I
guarantee
you.
Somebody
made
a
lot
of
effort
to
put
that
together
and
I
think
that
our
our
folks
have
been
trying
to
make
a
good-faith
estimate
on
this.
My
point
in
telling
you
all
this
is
that
you're
you're
arguing
about
something
that
we
have
no
control
over,
which
is
the
market
place
right.
E
All
we
can
do
is
base
our
knowledge
on
what
we
want
to
see
in
terms
of
the
canopy.
That's
the
way,
I
look
at
this,
alright,
so
changing
it
changing
it
isn't
going
to
change
anything
other
than
you
know.
Let's
say
we
do
it
at
two
and
a
half
minute
go
well.
You
know
we
have
a
shortage
of
two
on
two
inch
trees
or
two
inch.
You
know
I
mean
you
know.
E
We've
got
to
come
up
to
a
solution
and
a
resolution
now
and
I
think
that
you
know
all
the
work
that
we
put
in
well
over
two
years,
I
mean
the
landings.
The
landing
strip
was
two
years.
The
flight
was
about
three
years:
okay,
so
when
you
come
here
now
to
took
yeah
I
mean
so
when
you
come
here
now
to
make
a
minor
change,
quote-unquote
it
make.
E
It
gives
me
heartburn
because
you're
talking
about
a
situation
that
has
to
do
with
market
conditions,
based
on
what
you
said,
based
on
what
you
said,
we're
never
gonna,
be
able
to
chase
market
conditions
in
an
ordinance
and
I
think
you
know
that
I
think
we
all
know
that
so
I
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
was
correct
about
this.
This
is
not
a
new.
You
know
standard
that
was
brought
out
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago,
and
you
didn't
you
didn't
get
a
chance
to
present
it
to
us.
E
J
The
issue
regarding
the
tree
trimming
and
the
permit
for
that
could
be
addressed
without
him
without
impacting
the
ordinance
going
forward
and
being
adopted
today.
So
there
were
two
different
provisions,
so
I
wasn't
asking
that
that
be
addressed
immediately
and
what
I'd
asked
the
staff
and
the
city
attorney's
office
was
to
look
at
that
and
bring
back
a
recommendation
in
60
days.
Obviously
it
would
not
be
this
City
Council,
that's
sitting
today.
60.
E
J
It's
not
make
sure
we're
clear,
but
now
I'm
not
trying
to
delay
any
adoption
of
anything
all
right.
Thank
you.
The
small
provision
about
deleting
the
three
words
that
says
the
permit
required
for
private
property
tree
trimming
for
specimen
trees
listed
with
the
only
thing
with
what
asked
for
was
that
to
be
deleted
and
the
staff
and
the
City
Attorney's
Office
indicated
that
that
would
not
delay
the
adoption
of
this
ordinance.
The
other
portion
is
something
we
have
to
work
with
it
with
both
technical
standards,
as
mr.
E
E
I
mean
that
desire
60
days
only
because
I
won't
be
here.
So
it's
it's
not
up
to
me
as
to
whether
or
not
they're
gonna
be
desirous
of
a
60
day.
Wait
and
that's
perfectly
fine.
My
point
is:
is
that
I
wanted
to
I
want
to
talk
about
moving
forward
on
this
portion
of
it
and
I
think
that
I
think
that
we're
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from
now.
Thank
you
appreciate
it.
I'm
an
agreement.
E
L
My
name's
Mary,
Bailey
and
I
live
in
Hyde,
Park
and
I've
been
involved
on
that
flight
for
three
long
years
and
I
like
to
cook
at
home
and
I'm
gonna,
say
an
opening
put
a
fork
in
it.
It's
done.
Let's
get
this
past,
there's
been
a
lot
of
negotiations,
a
lot
of
meeting
a
lot
of
research
about
supply
and
demand,
and
if
we
need
to
just
move
on
guys,
I
support
the
adoption
of
the
tree
code
because
it
does
balance
property
rights
with
the
collective
benefit
of
the
tree
canopy
to
the
community.
L
It
strengthens
mitigation
after
tree
removal
by
focusing
on
canopy
replacement,
type
of
tree
and
area
of
the
city.
It's
mindful
of
state
level,
rules
and
liabilities.
It
applied
scientific
criteria,
standards
and
measures
for
removal
and
mitigation.
It
clarifies
the
requirements
and
considerations
for
use
by
governing
bodies,
as
opposed
to
just
opinions,
and
it
increases
the
scope
of
administrative
approvals
that
the
staff
can
grant,
but
that's
based
on
science
and
precedent
decisions.
L
I
hope
that
next
time
I'm
here
we're
talking
about
something
other
than
this
tree
ordinance.
Lastly,
as
I've
said,
and
every
one
of
the
letters
I've
drafted
to
you
that
in
six
months
after
the
adoption,
we
should
have
a
structured
public
review
of
the
impact
of
this.
So
if
these
little
things
were
arguing
about
here
today,
at
the
last
minute
that
have
been
discussed
ad
nauseam
are
really
a
problem
in
six
months.
L
We
should
change
it,
but
today
we
should
pass
this
thing
that
we've
been
trying
to
birth
longer
than
an
elephants,
gestation
and
I
know
something
about
that.
My
work
at
the
zoo,
okay,
so
a
be
a
little
funnier
than
my
normal
sense,
because
I'm
kind
of
losing
patience.
Let's
get
this
done,
please
thank
you.
B
S
R
M
M
I
did
send
a
letter
as
well
and
I
was
gonna,
read
the
whole
thing,
but
I'm
gonna,
just
I
am
because
of
the
I
went
this
past
today,
we've
all
been
working
on
it
and
we
fully
supported
its
the
tambour
ordinance
rewrite
it's
a
combination
of
many
months
of
work
by
the
city's
natural
resources,
legal
departments
and
working
in
collaboration
with
the
tree
advocates
and
the
builders
we've
had
many
meetings.
We've
talked
about
this
for
a
long
time.
M
It's
balanced
to
protect
Tampa's
trees,
while
allowing
residents
neighbors
builders
to
use
their
private
property
under
the
auspice.
It's
all
been
in
concert
with
the
city's
oversight
and
supervision.
We
look
forward
to
the
implementation,
the
ordinance
and
increased
force
enforcement
and
monitoring
of
the
tree
code
and
mitigation
and
as
Mary
Lou
soils
going
pointed
out,
we
should
have
a
review
of
this
in
six
months
if
some
of
the
changes
are
not
sufficiently
protecting
the
important
tree
canopy
of
Tampa,
we
look
forward
to
working
with
the
City
Council
and
others
to
make
fire
changes.
B
P
Duncan
I
would
like
to
thank
Honorable
Council
for
working
with
us
for
a
very
long
time
on
this
tree
code,
I'd
like
to
echo
what
miss
Bailey
said
that
we
need
to
pass
this
today
and
take
a
closer
look
at
it
in
six
months.
This
has
already
been
directed
by
the
council.
As
far
as
the
tree
trimming
I
know,
you
all
remember.
Seven
February
I
do
and
you
agreed
that
limbs
over
trees
over
24
inches
diameter
specimen
trees
with
limbs
over
four
inches
should
require
a
permit.
P
Miss
Beck
has
briefed
us
repeatedly
that
Tampa
loses
a
lot
of
trees
through
improper
pruning.
It
doesn't
do
us
any
good
to
try
to
protect
our
canopy
if
we
allow
trees
to
be
made
hazardous
through
a
proper
pruning.
So
I
would
like
to
say
please
leave
that
as
it
is.
As
for
the
mitigation,
we
remembered
the
big
nice
briefing.
We
got
in
the
mitigation
and
I
can't
speak
as
eloquently
as
mr.
Sam
Nick.
P
The
guy
in
the
bow
tie
did
who
knows
a
lot
more
about
trees
than
I
do,
but
the
mitigation
strategy
was
based
on
not
inches
four
inches
of
wood.
It
was
based
on
how
many
trees
at
2.5
caliber,
do
you
have
to
plant
to
replace
the
canopy
of
the
tree
that
was
removed
in
a
five-year
period,
is
back
to
set
a
two-inch
tree
we'll
take
another
year
to
get
to
become
a
2.5
inch,
maybe
two
years
it
varies
with
the
trees
right.
P
So
if
we
go
down
on
the
caliper
we're
not
replacing
the
canopy
in
five
years,
it's
now
gonna
be
six
or
seven.
So
if
there's
a
concern-
and
somebody
comes
forward
with
some
estimates-
from
a
new
number
of
nurseries
that
says
hey-
this
is
how
much
the
trees
cost
I
believe.
It's
two
point,
five
inch
and
30-gallon
the
last
version
of
the
code
I
looked
at
and
we
went
round
around
about
this.
What's
a
two
point:
five
and
thirty.
P
So
someone
comes
up
with
estimates
that
it
is
completely
onerous
to
replace
the
trees
with
two
point
five,
then
we
need
to
relook
that
and
as
soon
as
that,
the
facts
are
brought
to
your
attention,
but
please
pass
this
code
today,
as
is
without
further
changes,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
natural
resources
and
new
council
in
the
future
on
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
J
Morning,
Council
Mike
Peterson
on
behalf
of
the
greater
Tampa
realtors.
As
you
know,
we've
been
monitoring
the
processes.
You
have
a
very
long
time.
We've
reviewed
the
final
proposal
and
our
support
I
do
believe
that
perhaps
a
six-month
review
to
see
how
things
are
working
in
the
marketplace
is
worthy,
but
for
the
most
part
it's
a
great,
comprehensive
effort
based
on
defensible
science,
that's
a
predictability
for
everybody.
J
So
perhaps
a
few
tweaks
will
come
down
the
line,
but
this
has
been
a
great
effort
and
so
for
those
of
you
who
live
through
it,
it's
been
kind
of
like
living
through
the
code
enforcement
and
the
sign
ordinance
and
all
the
other
throws
we've
had
recent
years
for
those
of
you
leaving
thanks
for
working
with
us
and
we
hope
this
gets
passed
today.
Thank
you,
you're.
B
J
B
I
had
a
disease
tree
in
my
yard
that
had
to
be
cut
down
and
I
know
from
what
I
from
trimming
and
then
cutting
down
the
expenses
that
I
spent
I
know.
A
lot
of
my
neighbors
could
not
afford
that,
especially
with
the
and
adding
the
the
permit
for
the
trimming
of
trees.
So
possibly
coming
back
in
six
months
and.
B
B
E
J
J
There
are
over
nine
million
trees
in
the
city
of
those
about
50%
are
on
residential
properties,
so
that's
186,000
trees.
If
only
10%
of
those
needed
to
be
pruned
each
year,
that's
eighteen
thousand
six
hundred
trees.
There
are
250
inspection
days
a
year.
This
ordinance
would
require
two
inspections
for
the
pruning
one
to
go
out
and
tell
somebody
where
to
cut
it
and
then
the
inspector
to
go
back
and
see
if
they
cut
it
correctly.
J
So
if
you
multiply
those
74
inspection
days
by
two
that
comes
to
to
the
149
inspection
days
in
an
eight-hour
day,
our
inspectors
and
inspectors
currently
can
handle
up
15
spec
shion's
a
day.
Do
the
math
that's
ten
full-time
inspectors
that
would
need
to
be
hired
by
Natural
Resources,
who
currently
cannot
keep
up
with
what
they
have
on
their
plate.
So
I
agree
in
six
months
we
can
come
back
and
look
at
this
staff
needs
to
report
to
Council.
J
What
is
the
cost
of
this
and
they're
not
doing
it
if
they
do
it
and
everybody
agrees
that
it's
not
onerous
your
counsel,
someone
that
passes
these
these
budgets
then
pass
it.
But
you
don't
know
your
mate
you're
being
asked
to
make
a
decision.
You
don't
have
the
facts
three
years,
you
think
you'd
have
the
facts.
Okay,
very
quickly.
On
the
to
two
to
two
and
a
half
inch
caliper,
it's
been
two
inches
four
years.
It's
worked.
J
If
you
call
any
grower,
they'll
tell
you:
it
takes
about
six
months
to
grow
a
tree
from
two
to
two
and
a
half
inch
caliper,
okay,
when
it
gets
to
two
and
a
half,
but
they
have
to
make
a
decision.
Do
we
take
it
out
of
the
thirty
gallon
pot
and
move
it
into
the
45
gallon
pot,
in
which
case
then
the
cost
goes
up
so
yeah
we
don't
control
the
marketplace,
but
your
dis
will
dictate
to
the
market
that
isn't
currently
growing
two-and-a-half-inch
30
gallon
trees.
J
A
Q
N
Good
morning,
Kathy
Beck,
with
all
due
respect
the
numbers
that
mr.
Brown
just
presented,
you
are
a
little
skewed
in
that
the
analysis
that
he's
referencing
the
nine
million
trees.
When
that
analysis
was
done,
those
trees
are
measured
at
one-inch
diameter
and
so
we're
measuring
and
the
majority
of
those
are
mangrove
red
mangrove.
So
it
doesn't
represent
the
the
population
of
trees
that
we
would
be
regulating.
N
N
A
A
B
F
F
N
F
Where
does
she
go
legal?
Miss
a
quick?
Okay!
Let
me
ask
you
just
since
you
were
up
so
I
thought,
I'd
ask
them
to
one
of
the
things.
That's
really
bothering
me
is
that
the
private
property
part,
which
was
stated
that
if
those
three
words
were
removed,
it
would
not
affect
the
timeline
that
we're
looking
at
dude.
What
are
we
are.
F
Q
So
one
for
me:
what's
an
issue
as
I
understand
it
is
that
a
present
a
present,
the
city
requires
a
pruning
permit
for
grand
tree
limbs
and
protected
tree
limbs
greater
than
four
inches
over
city
property
or
right
away.
The
the
issue
that
has
been
brought
up
is
the
specimen
tree
limbs
of
greater
than
four
inches
over
private
property.
Q
J
Good
morning,
council,
my
name
is
Jojo.
Laura
I
have
the
infamous
reputation
of
having
rid
of
the
tree
law
in
1972,
and
some
of
these
same
questions,
Believe
It
or
Not,
came
up
during
those
times.
Incidentally,
Charlie
Miranda
was
on
the
board
at
that
time.
He's
a
lot
older
than
I
am
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
record
straight
on
that,
but
I
have
made
myself
available
to
treat
some
three.
Something
say
something
group
that
Chelsea
Johnson
behind
me.
J
Heads
up
and
they've
done
an
outstanding
job
of
improving
an
ordinance
that
was
in
a
very
embryonic
stage.
Back
in
those
days
in
nineteen.
Excuse
me
in
nineteen
seventy-two,
we
had
a
difficult
time
passing
it
and
we
finally
passed
it.
I
think
all
the
comments
that
have
been
made
are
certainly
legitimate,
but
I
want
to
wholeheartedly
endorse
the
changes
that
they
have
made
and
urge
you
to
support
this
second
reading
and
any
amendments
that
you
bring
up
that
I
heard
and
that
we're
in
discussion
certainly
aren't
anything
that
are
going
to
devastate
the
ordinance.
J
B
Good
evening,
good
morning,
Council
this
is
Jerry
Frank
house
or
Stan
president
and
I
want
to
thank
you
very
much
for
putting
up
with
us
with
this
tree
ordinance
for
the
last
three
years,
dan
has
been
working
on
the
tree.
Ordinance
says
for
as
long
as
we've
been
in
existence.
30
years
now,
we've
always
been
poor
trees
and
thank
you
very
much
for
all
the
work
you've
done.
P
Good
morning
Council,
my
name
is
Lorraine
Moreno
I'm,
with
the
Davis
Island
Civic
Association
tree
protection
and
restoration
committee.
This
rewritten
tree
ordinance
has
the
endorsement
of
the
Davis
Island
Civic
Association,
the
Davis,
Iyengar
and
club,
and
other
garden
clubs
in
the
city
of
Tampa.
This
rewritten
tree
or
eNOS
has
taken
thirteen
long
months
to
negotiate
it
in
concert
with
the
civic
associations,
the
Tampa
Bay
Builders
Association,
the
tree
advocates
and
city
staff.
It
has
been
a
long,
arduous
process
of
meetings,
negotiations
and
compromise
involving
hundreds
of
hours
between
these
entities.
P
R
Good
morning,
Chelsea
Johnson,
33:13,
home-court
and
Tampa.
Thank
you
all
I'm,
going
to
miss
those
of
you
that
are
leaving,
and
we
appreciate
all
of
the
time
that
you
spent
listening
to
us
the
past.
For
me,
the
past
three
or
four
some
of
you've
been
hearing
about
this
for
longer
than
that.
I,
don't
think
that
the
spirit
of
collaboration
can
be
overstated
today.
I
understand
that
we're
talking
about
a
half
inch
difference,
which
is
extremely
important
and
also
whether
we
are
allowed
to
prune
trees
on
our
property.
But
today
is
a
nearly
40-year.
R
It's
a
historical
compromise
between
the
Tampa
Bay,
Builders
Association
and
the
builders
I,
don't
know
how
long
they've
been
around
the
TVPA
the
tree
advocates.
We
have
members
from
the
Sierra
Club,
we
have
citizen
activists,
we
have
Neighborhood
Association,
presidents
and
volunteers
and
civic
associations.
We
also
have
the
greater
Tampa
area
Realtors
and
the
builders
here
mostly
to
support
this
code.
We
are
talking
about
a
couple
of
things
that
we
just
weren't
able
to
agree
on.
R
I
think
we've
discussed
that
we've
had
city
staff
come
up
and
and
give
their
expertise,
but
again
the
spirit
of
collaboration
over
the
past
year.
Just
cannot
be
overstated
today,
I
do
request
that
we
have
a
six-month
review
after
the
implementation
of
this
code
today,
assuming
that
you
all
will
pass
it.
I
also
think
it's
important
to
err
on
the
side
of
caution.
We
do
have
to
preserve
our
trees
while
allowing
for
growth,
and
if
we
cannot
preserve
them,
we
must
be
replacing
the
canopy
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
R
It's
important
to
do
our
best
to
do
this
to
the
best
of
our
abilities.
There
are
things
that
we
aren't
going
to
be
able
to
control,
possibly
to
two
inch.
Trees
are
all
that
are
available,
I,
don't
know
we
can
review
that
in
six
months,
but
we
should
always
try
for
our
best.
There's
no
question
that
the
city
is
behind
when
it
comes
to
enforcement.
However,
our
prices
trees
deserve
at
least
the
very
best
protections
that
we
can
give
them
to
the
best
of
our
ability.
R
There
are
already
things
that
you're
not
only
allowed
to
do
on
your
own
private
property.
Why
should
trees
get
so
to
speak?
The
short
end
of
the
stick.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
want
to
thank
the
builders
city
staff
and
the
tree
advocates
for
the
many
many
many
hours
of
collaboration
it
just
as
a
side
note,
I
hope,
I'm
speaking
at
neighborhood
associations
and
I
spoke
at
fan
recently.
There
are
no
objections
to
this
code.
Thank
you
again.
F
Okay,
very
quickly,
here
I
tend
to
agree
that
the
the
size
when
you're
looking
at
30-gallon
I,
there's
not
anything
there.
That
I
could
that
I
would
be
willing
to
change.
However,
the
private
property
is
not
so
much
the
private
property
as
looking
at
people
that
cannot
afford,
cannot
afford
and
will
not
afford.
They
are
looking
at
between
paying
the
rent
or
buying
food
and
paying
for
a
permit
to
terma
train.
That's
not
going
to
happen.
It's
just
not
going
to
happen
in
the
name,
and
we
have
many
many
neighborhoods
like
that.
F
F
Do
it
and
then
they'll
be
fined
which
we
will
never
collect
because
they
don't
have
the
money
so
that
part
of
it
you
know
I,
would
move
forward,
and
since
it
is
not
something
that
would
jeopardize
moving
forward,
I
would
like
to
see
that
those
three
words
removed
and
not
in
six
months
now
and
then
in
six
months.
If
they
see
that
there's
an
issue
that
needs
to
be
put
back
in
then
put
it
back
in
that's
my
thoughts
on
it.
Q
A
H
Munro
I
support
this
entitlement.
As
long
as
it's
there's
got
to
be
some,
you
know
we
have
different
funds
for
different
things
like
roof
repairs
sometimes,
and
this
small
amount
of
money
I
understand,
there's
a
lot
of
roofs
that
need
repairing,
but
some
were
somehow
I'm
concerned.
What
mr.
Feeny
said
regarding
the
individual,
who
may
or
may
not
have
the
money,
as
you
well
know,
over
40%
of
Americans
don't
have
enough
for
$400
emergency
over
60%
of
Americans.
Don't
have
enough
for
$1,000
emergency.
H
H
Thinking
what
we
know
that
there's
3.2
billion
of
another
thing
that
needs
to
be
addressed
underground
lines
of
both
to
Cherie
treated,
water
and
drinking
water,
that's
a
biggie
that
hasn't
been
discussed
and
I.
Just
don't
want
to
pile
on
somebody.
That's
trying
to
get
out
and
have
a
better
life
of
their
family.
The
media
start
pushing
them
down
and
I'm,
not
saying
I'm
pushing
them
down,
but
it's
not
helping
them.
So
how
do
I
balance
that
up?
The
problem
is
I,
don't
have
an
answer,
although
I'll
support
it.
H
H
The
problem
is
that
we
may
have
the
ability
to
get
an
attorney.
They
don't
do.
We
furnish
them
an
attorney.
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
think
so.
It's
it's
conflict.
It's
very
simple.
I
like
I'm,
not
against
trees,
but
I
like
to
help
the
public
have
an
even
keel.
So
there's
some
money
somewhere
that
you
can
tell
us
where
it's
at
I
don't
know
of
any.
Maybe
we
can
say
you
know
what
at
the
end
of
the
ship
program.
I
don't
know.
A
M
E
Know
the
way
I
look
at
I
totally
agree
with
mr.
Miranda
and
mystic
opines
concerns
about
the
specifics.
It
is
incumbent
upon
yourself,
mr.
Vieira,
mr.
Montes
Kyle
Cole,
whoever
else
gets
elected
to
this
next
to
deal
with
those
issues
we
have
as
a
council
over
the
last
eight
years,
been
good
stewards
of
our
money,
and
the
mayor
has
crowed
about
the
fact
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
good
budget
year
this
year.
E
Maybe
there's
a
solution
based
on
that
when
you're
talking
about
ordinances
and
you're
talking
about
a
large
portion
of
this
I
mean
when
you
look
at
whoever
is
going
to
read
this,
it's
a
one
whole
page.
We
don't
usually
see
that
as
the
title.
That's
the
title,
that's
not
the
ordinance
itself,
so
we
have
been
working
diligently
with
our
neighborhood
advocates
and
our
tree
advocates
with
the
Tampa
Bay
Builders
Association
with
everyone
else.
E
That
has
an
interest
in
making
sure
that
the
tree
ordinance
is
not
only
fair
but
is
protecting
the
main
thing
that
we
started
this
discussion
about,
which
is
the
canopy
itself.
It
isn't
only
about
the
specifics
of
it.
It
is
also
about
the
overarching
reason
why
we're
doing
it
trees
bring
a
lot
more
benefit
than
just
oxygen.
They
make
neighborhoods
complete.
E
E
I'm
wholeheartedly
in
support
of
this
I
want
to
thank
all
the
advocates
on
both
sides
for
coming
together
and
actually
coming
up
with
something
that
made
sense
for
all
of
us.
It
was
a
mind-numbing
lead,
awful
process
before
the
groups
got
together
and
made
a
decision
as
to
how
they
were
gonna.
Put
this
forward.
Thank
you
to
the
staff
and
miss
Beck.
I
know
that
you're
gonna
be
leaving
soon,
you're
gonna
be
retiring
and
I
hope
you
go
to
a
tree
farm
somewhere
because
I
I,
you
know.
K
E
You,
if
you
end
up
in
a
place
where
it's
all
concrete,
I'm,
not
sure,
what's
happening,
but
we
hope
you
do
that
and
thank
you
so
much
the
legal
department
who
actually
was
the
lead
on
this.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
issues.
Thank
you
all
for
for
persevering
in
terms
of
this,
and
thanks
for
everyone
being
here
today
to
see
the
hopefully
the
final
resolution
of
this
before
we
leave
Council.
Thank
you.
There's.
G
G
We
have
one
issue
left.
The
issue
is
whether
or
not
a
four
inch
in
diameter
limb
of
a
non
grand
tree
can
be
pruned
with
or
without
a
permit,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
this
back
already
led
us
in
the
direction
of
a
compromise
with
what
she
mentioned
regarding
her
idea
with
the
affidavit.
So,
however,
you
craft,
however,
you
want
to
craft
this
whether
you
want
to
remove
or
keep
the
language
whatever.
G
I
think
that
the
affidavit
in
lieu
of
an
inspection,
the
idea
that
someone
who
is
licensed
can
certify
to
something
having
been
done
correctly
is
the
avenue
that
we
ought
to
go
down,
because
that
will
cut
the
cost,
which
is
I,
think
what
Councilwoman
could
mean
and
Miranda
were
were
expressing
concern
about
making
it
easier
and
making
it
less
expensive.
An
onerous
misc.
F
You
know
we're
talking
about
years.
Every
time
this
came
up,
I
brought
it
up
every
single
time
about
the
neighborhoods
that
cannot
afford
it
will
not
do
it
and
we're
gonna
find
them
and
we're
not
gonna
collect
we're
talking
about
trimming
for
inch
where
they
would
have
their
husband
get
up
or
their
son
or
themselves
get
up
on
a
ladder.
I've
seen
my
sister
do
that
and
now
we're
telling
him
they
have
to
hire
an
arborist.
Really
it's
not.
It
is
not.
It
isn't
fair.
It
is
not
a
fair
and
it
is
not.
F
It
is
unfair.
It's
okay
to
the
people
who
can
afford
it.
It
is
not
okay
to
the
people
that
can't
afford
it
and
there's
a
whole
lot
of
people
that
can't
afford
it.
They
can't
afford
an
arborist.
They
can't
afford
it's,
not
gonna
happen.
We
can
put
it
in
there.
So
my
point
is
this:
remove
the
words
in
six
months
Adam
if
you
think
that
it
needs
to
be
added,
not
the
other
way
around.
We
have
to
caution
on
the
side
of
the
people
and
the
people.
F
There's
many
many
many
people
in
this
city
that
cannot
afford
an
arborist
cannot
afford
any
of
that.
That's
why
trees
you
find
them
I
mean
in
my
old
neighborhood.
A
tree
fell
on
a
house
because
it
was
rotted
and
they
couldn't
they
didn't
get
the
permit
and
they
couldn't
get
the
permit
and
they
couldn't
pay
the
to
pick
the
tree
down
and
I
asked
what
do
we
do
with
with
and
right?
We
don't
do
anything.
F
We
don't
do
anything
on
private
property
that
are
rotted
trees,
but
we
will
go
on
private
property
and
tell
them
how
to
turn
a
four-inch
branch.
I
asked
that
question
about.
Yes,
I
did
I
asked
that
question
to
miss
Coyle
I
said
when
we,
when
there
are
dangerous
trees
on
private
property,
do
we
go
in
and
she
said?
No,
we
don't
do
anything
on
private
property.
F
That
was
her
answer
and
we
can
look
up
the
we
can
look
up
the
statements,
but
here's
the
point
we're
not,
and
if
you
go
on
private
property,
are
we
paying
for
the
tree
to
get
down?
I
mean
it's
really
we're
looking
at
planting
trees
and
not
paying
attention
to
the
not
planting,
trees,
trimming
trees,
not
paying
attention
to
the
cost
to
the
people
we
have.
We
have
piled
on
the
people
already
with.
We
have
three
taxes,
three
tax
increases
and
now
we're
gonna
pile
on
them.
I
can't
do
this.
F
N
Cathy
Beck
natural
resources
coordinator,
we
do
take
an
active
role
in
dangerous
trees
on
private
property.
We
have
the
ability
to
condemn
them
through
the
code
enforcement
process
and
we've
got
a
substantial
backlog
of
dangerous
trees
throughout
the
city
that
are
condemned
and
they're
required
to
remove
them
before
they
become
fallen,
homes
or
neighbor's
properties,
and
we
also
work
with
individuals
with
proving
violations.
The
consequences
of
pruning
trees
improperly
are
pretty
substantial.
N
They
create
dangerous,
trees
and
and
I
think
we
heard
testimony
today
that
during
high
winds
or
storm
events
that
dead
trees
or
dangerous
trees
fell
and
kept
power
out
for
three
days.
That's
the
the
saw,
that's
what
happens
when
you
don't
prune
trees
properly,
they
don't
respond
well
and
they
become
dangerous.
So
we
try
to
educate
people
on
the
proper
ways
to
prune
trees
and
we
work
with
individuals
that
have
pruned
them
improperly
to
get
them
pruned
correctly,
so
they
don't
become
dangerous,
so
it's
really
an
educational
process
for
us
all.
So
thank
you.
F
F
That
is
that's
not
gonna.
That
is
not
going
to
make
a
difference.
That
is
not
going,
but
it
will
make
a
difference
in
people's
and
people's
slides
and
to
condemn
trees
and
then
not
help
them
when
we
do
help
them
with
their
roof
will
help
them
with
different
things,
but
we're
not
with
a
tree.
So
the
tree
sits
there
until
it
falls
so
we're
going
around
condemning.
We
have
a
backlog
of
condemned
trees.
F
It's
just
not
fair.
It
just
isn't
fair
and
I
I
think
this
the
whole
kit
and
caboodle.
If
you
want
to
call
it,
is
excellent.
Everybody
worked
very
hard
and
I
I
want
to
point
out
that
builders
understand
tree
and
enormous
value
to
property.
They
add
value
to
property,
they
don't
take
definitely
say
to
insinuate.
The
builders
don't
like
trees
is
ridiculous.
A
Q
A
F
It
was
indicated
that
this
has
been
worked
on
three
weeks
and
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
this
came
up.
This
didn't
all
of
a
sudden.
Come
up.
I
have
been
questioning
this
for
every
time
it
comes
up
about
people
not
being
able
to
afford
it.
So
it's
not
new,
and
here
it
is
so
that
part
of
it
is
not
something.
I
will
support.
I,
just
can't
support
burdening
people.
When
we
have
raised
taxes
three
times,
I
can
get
a
motion.
K
Much
mr.
chairman
I
have
a
substitute
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
your
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
relating
to
comprehensive
changes
to
the
city's
tree
and
landscaping
regulations
set
forth
in
Chapter
thirteen
landscaping,
tree
removal
and
SCI
clearance,
16
parks
and
recreation,
19,
property
maintenance
and
structural
standards,
22
streets
and
sidewalks,
and
27
zoning
and
land
development
repealing
and
reserving
chapter
13
landscaping,
tree
removal
and
site
clearing
amending
section,
16
86
tree
trust
fund
established
amending
section
19.
K
Eighty
four
point:
three
point:
two
tree
planning
requirements:
three
matrix
irrigation,
creating
section
27
two.
Eighty
four
point:
three
point:
three:
a
landscaped
area
and
tree
planting
requirements;
creating
section
27.
Two.
Eighty
four
point:
three
point:
four
landscaped
area
and
LU
calculation
and
payment
general
procedure
creating
section
27,
two.
Eighty
four
point:
four
tree
mitigation
method
requirements
creating
section
27
two.
Eighty
four
point:
four
point:
one
tree
mitigation
calculations,
creating
section
27,
280,
4.4.2
tree
planting;
permit
for
mitigation
trees,
repealing
a
replacement
section;
27,
285
enforcement
authority;
penalties,
remedies
repealing
section,
27;
two.
A
J
G
A
F
Apologize
because
the
only
person
that
came
up
to
talk
about
the
people
who
can't
afford
it
was
one
lady,
everybody
else
and
I
looked
out
at
the
audience,
were
white
middle-class
people
and
I
apologize
that
I.
Don't
did
not
make
the
motion
to
remove
that.
My
apologies
to
you,
that's
all
I,
have
to
say
no.
A
G
A
C
G
A
R
I'm
here
in
item
57,
which
is
a
change
to
chapter
16,
Parks
and
Recreation,
it's
updating
the
address
of
the
David
M
Barksdale
community
center
to
reflect
where
it
is
actually
located.
Based
upon
your
City
Council's
recent
changes
to
this
ordinance.
This
will
need
to
pass
by
five
votes
or
more
question.
G
A
F
You
mr.
chair
file,
number
E
2019
a
chapter
16
limits
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
of
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
making
a
revision
to
the
city
of
Tampa
co2
vote
of
ordinances,
chapter
16,
Parks
and
Recreation
amending
section,
16,
91
lists
of
dedicated
parks,
repealing
all
ordinances
parts
of
ordinances
in
conflict
there
with
providing
for
severability
providing
for
an
effective
date.
I've.
R
J
A
E
You
chair
presented
ordinance
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
amending
the
Tampa
Comprehensive
Plan
future
land-use
element.
Future
land
use
map
for
the
property
located
at
four
eight
zero
one
North
22nd
Street
from
community
commercial,
35
CC.
Thirty-Five
community
mixed-use
35cm
you
thirty-five
residential
ten,
are
ten
residential.
Thirty-Five
are
thirty-five
residential.
Fifty
are
fifty
right-of-way
and
transitional
use.
Twenty
forty,
you
twenty
four
to
public
semi
public
s,
/
SP,
providing
for
repeal
ball
ordinances
in
conflict,
providing
for
severability
providing
an
effective
date.
Most.
E
A
N
A
G
You
very
much
mr.
chair
I
move
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
forty
seven.
Oh
seven,
forty
seven
one
three
and
forty
seven,
seventeen
West
McCoy
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida
and
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning
district
classification,
PD
plan
development,
retail
and
restaurant
to
PD
plan
development,
residential
single-family
attached,
providing
an
effective
date.
J
Good
morning,
Council
JV
Brooke
Lemar,
just
a
perk,
Omar
law,
3902,
Henderson,
Boulevard
I,
think
the
matter
requests
for
the
counselors.
What
type
of
developing
do
you
want,
and
it's
just
a
living
facility?
That's
gonna,
provide
an
enhancement
for
properties,
increase
employment,
increased
property
values
or
a
multi-family
development,
as
it's
currently
zoned,
which
would
house
approximately
the
same
number
of
residents
with
increased
traffic
and
really
no
enhancement
for
the
property.
The
my
client
has
been
extremely
cooperative,
with
neighbors
association,
with
two
extensions
to
this
process:
two
to
cooperate
and
get
their
approval.
J
A
B
My
name
is
Ralph
Rivera.
Vice
president
of
central
protection
services.
Our
office
is
at
5809
115,
Drive,
East,
Pierce
Florida,
three,
four,
two
one,
nine.
Our
company
has
over
ten
years
experience
both
safety
and
security
services.
Our
company's
portfolio
consists
of
residential
properties
such
as
prong
such
as
apartment
complexes,
homeowner
association,
subdivisions
subdivisions
and
commercial
retail
properties.
Some
of
our
security
details
have
include
conventions,
as
well
as
public
events,
the
develop
our
the
developer
and
I
have
draft
agreement
in
a
pending
contract
with
respect
to
Emily's
project
as
it
developed
as
the
developers.
B
Priority
is
the
safety
and
security
of
the
residents
and
staff
and
overall
property.
Such
security
measures
have
been
discussed
to
include
camera
systems,
perimeter,
fencing
CCTVs
as
well
as
property
security
checks
and
services.
Visitors
will
be
made
to
sign
in
and
out
to
gain
access
to
both
the
property
as
well
as
residents.
The
security
plan
is
to
ensure
that
the
residents
are
safe
and
secured.
B
Defense
developers
and
I's
parties
to
keep
the
residents
safe,
touching
services
offers
a
courser
central
detection
services
officers
are
certified
and
trained
in
the
area.
Patient
compliance
to
me
all
they
all
a
LF
criteria
it
has
been
brought
to.
The
boat
has
been
brought
to
both
the
developer
and
central
protection
services.
Attention
that
there
are
some
safety
concerns
and
reference
to
the
public
part
adjacent
to
the
imaging
Emily
project.
J
Good
morning,
council,
my
name
is
Anne
McIntosh
I
live
at
512,
East
Emily,
that
is,
four
houses
away
from
this
proposed
location
that
they're
looking
to
build
I,
do
say
and
view
the
park
it's
right
across
from
our
residence.
With
this
added
security,
that's
going
to
go
in
and
the
fact
that,
just
just
on
the
other
side
of
the
baseball
field
is
a
community
center
police
substation,
which
is
constantly
full
of
patrol
officers.
The
security
down
there
will
will
increase.
It
will
be
much
better.
The
property
has
been
neglected
for
a
long
period
of
time.
J
B
A
B
A
M
Don't
know
if
it's
morning
or
afternoon,
but
my
name
is
Donna
Craig
and
I
own
and
live
at
512
East
Emily
Street,
which
has
recorded
before,
is
about
four
or
five
houses
from
the
two
properties
that
are
in
question
and
I
support.
This
project
I
live
on
rubbles
Park
I
moved
there
a
little
over
five
years
ago.
M
That
section
of
the
park
has
has
been
a
mess
and
I
think
it
would
be
good
to
have
a
strong
hold
on
this
park.
I
live
on
the
far
northeast
corner
and
I
think
we
need
people
in
there
that
respect
the
park
that
want
to
be
in
the
park
that
want
to
appreciate
what
the
city
has
put
in
many
many
years
ago
and
probably
part
of
the
landscape
at
some
point
early
on,
but
I
think
this
gentleman
is
is
full
of
heart
and
is
willing
to
help
out
the
community.
M
H
A
A
B
B
A
K
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chairman
I
have
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adopt
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
at
the
John
vicinity
of
7240.
North
40th
Street
in
the
city
to
have
a
forum
were
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning
district
classification,
rm20
for
residential
multi-family
took
PD
plan
development,
personal
services
and
business
professional
office
providing
an
effective
date.
Second,.
O
F
A
F
An
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
3304
and
3306
West,
st.
Joseph
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa,
Florida,
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning
district
classifications
are
s52
residential
single-family
PD,
planned
development,
residential
single-family
detached
providing
an
effective
danger.
Second
I've.
B
H
A
J
G
Thank
you
very
much.
Mr.
chair
I
move
an
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
rezoning
property
in
the
general
vicinity
of
401
802
909
and
1
zero,
zero,
five
West
Kennedy
Boulevard
109
North,
Willow
Avenue
and
112,
and
115
North
Edison
Avenue
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Florida,
more
particularly
described
in
section
one
from
zoning
district
classification,
PDA,
planned
development,
alternative
CG,
commercial,
general
and
IG
industrial
general
PDA,
planned
development,
alternative
College,
University
private,
providing
an
effective
date.
B
M
A
A
K
You
very
much
I
have
a
substitute
ordinance
being
presented
for
second
reading
and
adoption,
an
ordinance
vacating,
closing
just
continuing
and
abandoning
right-of-way
located
northwest
of
the
intersection
of
Lorraine
Street
and
Jefferson
Street
in
the
city
of
Tampa
Hillsborough
County
Florida,
the
same
being
more
fully
described
in
section
one,
hero
subject
to
certain
covenants
conditions
and
restrictions.
More
particularly
set
forth
here
in
providing
an
effective
date
jacket.
A
H
B
A
B
J
J
B
A
A
A
B
A
R
H
O
O
O
O
The
applicant
is
seeking
to
open
a
concrete
care
facility,
the
congregate
care
facility
itself
and
maximum
size,
and
the
zoning
of
at
rs.50
zoning
district
is
eight
beds,
they're
asking
for
a
total
of
19.
That's
the
waiver
they're
asking
for
this.
Is
this
proposed
site
plan?
There
are
some
changes
that
need
to
be
made
if
this
is
approved
in
they
go
through
the
permitting
process.
Sorry,
how.
O
This
is
a
draft
fight
plaintiff
still
needs
to
go
through
permitting
and
go
and
meet
all
the
permitting
requirements
for
the
voting.
Department
transportation
East
Hampton
such
but
the
request
before
you
today
is
there,
which
is
the
waiver
from
the
eight
state.
Eight
number
people
have
eight
beds
to
total
of
19
beds.
F
O
H
L
O
M
M
It's
not
very
developed
that
area
even
behind
us
is
an
empty
lot.
That's
been
empty
for
years,
so
III
do
think
that
it
would
benefit
the
community
we
we
are
fenced.
We
have
we've
recently
installed
farmers
and
I
think
that
it's
it
it
allows
more,
affordable
care
in
that
neighborhood.
That
does
not
have
it
now.
O
A
A
M
A
M
As
far
as
licensing
goes
and
acha
goes
absolutely-
we
had
already
had
conversation
with
them,
but
they
can't
license
us
a
facility
until
it's
there.
Then
they
have
to
inspect
it
and
say
yea
or
nay,
so
they
right
now.
We
don't
have
we're
not
in
the
position
to
ask
akka
to
get
licensed
for
19,
because
zoning
is
the
current
zoning
is
only
for
8,
so
we
can't
go
to
akka
until
we
get
the
correct
zoning
yeah.
G
M
A
A
H
Chairman
I
moved
up
for
the
zoning
and
ministers
denial
especially
use
permit
application,
su1
18
42,
because
petitioners
failed
to
demonstrate
the
petition
if
the
waivers
grant
is
consistent
with
the
applicable
general
standards
set
forth
of
section
27
129,
section
27,
61,
B
and
27
127,
B
Sara,
any
other
facts.
Rotation
are
beautiful.
All
right,
gotta
go
missing.
M
R
Curt
legal
department:
this
is
also
a
review
petition
from
a
denial
of
a
special
use.
Permit
application
but
proper.
Don't
the
property
owner
is
seeking
review.
It
was
also
denied
because
it
met
the
specific.
It
did
not
meet
the
specific
criteria
in
the
code
which
City
Council
has
the
ability
to
waive
and
I
am
going
to
pass
out
sample
motions.
O
O
The
area
map,
though
this
again
is
denied
by
the
Zoning
Administrator.
This
instance
is
they're
asking
for
total
of
eight
beds,
which
they
could
do
in
the
RS
50
zoning
district,
but
in
/
code
there's
a
separation
distance
of
1200
feet,
they're
asking
for
a
reduction
between
this
property,
which
is
the
subject
property
and
this
property.
According
to
the
Aqua
webpage.
This
is
at
3501,
east
Knollwood
street.
The
distance
separating
the
distance
is
only
316
feet.
They
would
be
asking
for
that
waiver.
H
I
have
voted
consistently
against
this
I
can
tell
you
where
Tampa
Bay
Boulevard
in
Havana
and
all
the
ones
behind
just
with
high
school,
when
it
came
up
a
lot
seven
eight
months
ago
and
I
don't
want
to
efficient
or
feel
in
any
way
disrespected
that
I'm
just
telling
in
the
head
that
I
will
be
supporting
it,
because
now
there's
only
four
council
members
I
want
you
to
understand
that
it's
not
because
then
he
reads
it
other
than
a
follow.
The
guideline
to
the
1,200
feet.
G
A
O
A
G
Five
now
so,
if
it's,
if
it's
still
a
request
that
you
want,
you
have
the
right
to
make
that
request.
The
council
doesn't
have
to
give
it
with
only
four,
where
the
unanimous
vote
Council
would
give
you
that
require
that
continuance,
if
you
ask
for
it.
So
what
is
your
pleasure?
Please,
let
it
counselor
what
what
you
wish
to
do.
I
wish.
A
D
Name
is
Katherine
mock,
well,
I
made
Medicare
with
a
provider
previously
I
applied
for
a
permit
to
open
a
small
residential
facility
and
I
was
denied
just
because
of
fact
that
I
didn't
meet
the
criteria
because
there
was
another
group
home
which
was
on
the
other
side
of
the
street.
But
I
spoke
with
some
of
the
people
over
there
and
the
reason
is
the
other
category
of
the
person
running
the
facility
is
a
level
and
the
arab
gym,
with
a
different
criteria
from
what
we
do.
D
I,
walk
with
Mikaela
health
care
services
is
my
business
and
I
contract
with
agency
for
persons
with
disability.
So
we
work
with
individual
with
the
mental
disability
and
behavior
disorder.
As
such,
I
decided
to
open
a
group
home
in
that
area,
knowing
fully
well
that
there
was
another
facilities,
as
I
said
to
where
I
am,
but
the
only
difference
between
the
air
left
and
the
group
home
is
that
the
air
lab
that
is
around.
D
That
era
is
dealing
with
elderly
folks
from
17
years
and
above
when
I'm
dealing
with
children
and
young
adult
with
real
mental
disability.
That
needs
a
place
to
stay,
to
give
at
least
some
kind
of
leverage
from
their
parents,
at
least
to
be
able
to
go
to
work
knowing
full
well
that
they
have
a
child
that
is
being
taken
care
of
in
a
facility.
A
D
When
I
choose
a
location,
actually
I
didn't
know
that
there
was
another
facility
that
deal
with
the
agency
for
until
they
deal
with
akka
but
I
deal
with
APD,
and
when
that
guy
called
me,
because
he
called
me
himself
and
asked
me
what
type
of
business
I'm
going
to
do.
The
whatever
group
home
I
told
him
that
I
with
dealing
with
children
and
young
adult
you
say:
oh
I,
don't
have
any
problem
because
I'm
dealing
only
with
the
elderly
folks,
so
we
don't
deal
with
the
same.
D
I
spoke
with
a
couple
of
them
that
around
my
area
and
I
discussed
with
them,
because
they
saw
the
development
that
I
was
doing.
There
was
fixing
the
place,
putting
up
fences
and
all
other
things
that
way
to
make
the
land
very
beautiful,
and
they
can
even
see
the
the
type
of
work
I've
done
in
that
area
and
almost
of
them
the
ones
that
I
know
appreciate
what
I've
done
in
that
area.
So
they
didn't
have
any
problem
with
me.
D
At
least
they
would
have
approached
me,
but
the
guy
in
concern
who
said
that
he's
running
the
LF
program
called
me
and
told
me
that
I
have
no
problem
with
it,
because
most
of
them
call
me
when
they
go
on
I,
sent
out
the
letter
notifying
and
what
is
going
on
in
the
place
in
the
facility
what
would
be
taking
place
in
the
facility.
It's.
G
I
just
want
to
get
back
to
the
threshold
question
for
a
minute,
because
we
only
have
five
even
with
just
five
council
members
present,
you
have
a
right
to
ask
for
a
continuance.
If
you
want
a
Council
of
seven,
you
have
to
get
four
votes
regardless
of
whether
there's
five
people
ear
or
seven
people
here.
So
it's
important
I
think
before
we
go
any
further,
you
would
have
originally
said
you
wanted
to
continue
when
there
were
four
now
there's
five,
but
we
still
need
to
settle
that.
I
think
before
we
go
forward
and.
F
G
D
G
A
A
G
A
G
G
C
A
C
D
C
Fine
and
everything
on
the
corner,
so
it's
difficult
for
for
us
to
keep
coming
down
here
because
we
are
most
of
us-
are
some
working
I
have
to
get
off
from
work
and
everything,
so
we
think
we
should
be
able
to
sell
this
today.
I
understand
this
have
been
down
here,
two
or
three
times
prior
to
today-
and
this
is
a
little
over
over
the
top
here
for
us
to
have
to
keep
changing
and
changing
and
changing.
G
B
Mother
council
I'm
elder
James
Moses
more
and
I've,
been
in
my
community
about
53
years
and
I've
enjoyed
my
community
because
most
of
us
are
cell
people,
I
love,
age,
retirement
and
fair
few
works
in
that
neighborhood.
We
have
kids
and
grandkids
in
and
out
of
the
neighborhood.
We
got
a
pop
right
up
the
street
here.
A
Let
me
keep
reminding
everybody.
We
know
all
what
you
want
to
say
about
the
merit
of
this
this
case.
Okay,
the
only
thing
we
able
to
hear
it
right
now:
I
love.
If
you
object
to
this
being
container
object:
okay,
yeah!
Oh
you
supported
been
continued,
have
holiday
weekend
here
at
man
today,
the
council
will
weigh
all.
B
B
B
B
B
A
A
H
I
see
the
an
attorney
in
the
city
from
the
City
Attorney's
Office
regarding
a
continuations
in
the
process.
I
don't
want
to
in
any
way
weigh
in
I
said
it
earlier.
Maybe
I
should
have
said,
but
I
feel
that
I
have
to
tell
the
public
I
feel
like
there's
only
four
on
you.
What
it
was
and
I
said:
I
was
not
going
to
support
it
because
of
my
past
is
being
voting
against
anything
within
1200
feet
of
hose.
H
R
Thank
you.
Mr.
Miranda
I
I
was
actually
trying,
not
sure
I,
completely
understood
your
earlier
statement,
whether
you
said
you
had
historically
denied
them
or
that
you
were
planning
on
denying
that
based
upon
that,
you
are
basically
down
to
four
possible
potential
votes
which
puts
you
in
essentially
the
same
position.
So
I
do
have
some
concerns
going
forward.
When
you
have
one
council
member
who
said
he
will
not
be
able
to
support
this
without
hearing
the
testimony
at
this
point
and.
H
F
R
Concerned,
if
you
proceed
because
then
you're
back
down
to
essentially
four
possible
votes,
which
puts
you
in
the
same
position
of
your
rules
as
when
it's
a
mandatory
one,
I
I,
can't
say
anything
more
than
that.
But
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
and
I.
Thank
you
miss
Miranda
for
clarifying
that,
because
I
was
running
through
my
mind
and
I.
Wasn't
sure
I
completely
understood
what
you
were
saying,
but
based
upon
that
I
do
have
concerns
with
this
going
forward
today
with
just
four
members
who
could
potentially
vote
for
it.
A
R
The
motion
is
denied,
and
that
goes
forward.
It
goes
forward.
I
was
just
asked
a
question
and
so
I
felt
it
was
appropriate
to
let
you
know
that
I
do
have
some
concerns
based
upon
the
fact
that
your
rules
state
that
if
you
only
have
four
possible
members
who
can
vote
for
something
that
it's
a
continuances
of
matter
of
right.
There
was
a
continuance
and
based
upon
mr.
and
Oh
honestly
stated
on
the
record
that
he
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
support
it.
You
are
essentially
in
the
same
position.
R
Recommendation
to
count
I'm
sorry,
if
I've
been
clear,
I'm,
sorry
I'm,
trying
not
to
botch
you
in,
but
at
the
same
time
I
do
want,
to
be
honest.
I
have
legal
concerns
with
you
proceeding
forward
today,
based
upon
the
fact
that
your
rules
state
that,
if
you
have
four
members
and
the
petitioner
asked
for
a
ask
for
a
continuance,
it's
as
of
a
matter
of
right,
and
so
my
recommendation
to
you
to
be
clear
would
be
that
you
grant
this
request
for
a
continuance.
R
A
A
A
Q
Kristen
Maura
legal
department
good
morning,
the
Kenton
Council
I
actually
have
a
substitute
resolution
on
this.
The
resolution
is
amended
to
the
June
first
dates
that
this
is
the
technical
manual
that
goes
with
the
Nutri
code
that
you
just
adopted.
It
will
have
a
June
first
date,
so
it
will
go
into
effect
at
the
same
time
as
the
Nutri
code.
There
also
are
some
amendments
to
the
revised
one
attached.
It's
been,
it's
been
unified.
G
K
J
A
A
H
A
A
G
S
S
This
school
is
located
along
the
34th
Street
corridor
of
where
we've
been
planning
for
a
couple
years
now,
a
major
corridor
improvement
project,
that's
going
to
bring
in
additional
street
lighting
traffic
calming
other
enhancements
along
the
corridor
to
make
it
safer
and
as
part
of
that
project,
we
had
planned
to
upgrade
the
school
zone
along
Potter
elementary
school.
So
what
we're
proposing
is
to
accelerate
that
portion
of
the
project
and
just
to
kind
of
give
you
a
general
idea
put
this
on
the
elmo
here.
S
You
can
kind
of
see
some
assorted
signage
on
there,
but
essentially,
what
we're
gonna
do
is
we're
gonna,
take
out
the
older,
outdated
static
signs,
we're
gonna
be
putting
in
school
flashers.
Those
school
flashers
will
be
able
to
be
timed
based
on
the
school
schedules
that
of
course
change
every
year,
and
then
the
static
signs
become
outdated,
so
they'll
be
able
to
be
timed
during
those
school
hours
so
that
when
the
school
zone
is
a
15
mile,
an
hour
can
do.
The
flashes
will
be
time
to
operate
during
that
time.
S
We'll
also
upgrade
all
of
the
existing
signage
put
pavement
markings
on
the
roadway
to
give
advanced
warning
to
the
drivers,
and
we
plan
to
have
this
done
in
three
months
or
less
in
time
for
the
new
school
year
to
start
in
the
fall.
So
I
think
this
is
going
to
bring
some
comfort
to
those
that
were
concerned
about
the
speeding
and
again
with
the
corridor
project
that
will
follow
next
year.
A
Duncan.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
giving
some
attention
to
this
dude
who
just
recently
brought
to
our
attention
about
because
of
the
speeding
and
they've
been
in
school
zone,
and
you
know,
and
I
went
through
that
other
day.
Just
take
a
look
and
I
see
where
the
law
enforcement
had
put
one
of
those
radar.
A
S
A
S
A
S
S
S
People
are
wanting
to
solve
that
problem
of
the
first
mile
last
mile
how
to
get
around
without
being
in
a
vehicle
and
having
some
other
choices,
but
all
those
things
come
with
a
learning
curve
and
with
some
unintended
consequences,
which
you
certainly
don't
want
to
see
so
because
we
were
getting
interest
from
vendors
coming
in
and
wanting
to
set
up
shop
with
their
scooters
and
I
know
some
of
them
reached
out
to
some
of
our
council
members
as
well.
We
decided
to
do
a
little
research
and
I
thought.
I'd.
S
Give
you
some
very
quick
overview
of
the
pilot
program
that
we
have
planned
the
research
we
did
in
terms
of
other
problems.
Other
cities
we're
having
I'll,
be
very
brief,
and
then
you're
certainly
welcome
to
ask
any
questions.
If
you
like,
I,
have
a
summary
of
that
pilot
program
that
I'm
a
handout
to
you
but
I,
this
isn't
intended
to
kind
of
throw
too
much
information
all
at
once.
It's
just
a
go
to
dock.
S
So,
very
quickly,
as
I
said,
we
were
having
some
interests
of
the
public
and
of
the
vendors
to
come
into
the
city
to
set
up
a
program.
What
we
found
with
other
cities
is
that
they
were
having
these
folks
come
in
without
any
framework
at
all
and
wreaking
havoc
on
these
different
cities.
Getting
bad
headlines
of
improper
behavior
people
getting
frustrated
with
the
scooters
and
they
were
getting
left
around
on
sidewalks
people,
throwing
them
across
bridges
because
they
were
getting
annoyed
with
them
all
kinds
of
bad
things.
S
So
certainly
these
companies
do
not
want
to
continue
that
kind
of
business
model.
I
think
they've
learned
their
lessons
as
well
about
coming
in
in
a
more
responsible
fashion
and
having
these
these
scooters
be
accepted
in
a
more
positive
way.
So
we
did
a
lot
of
research
and
found
a
city
of
Santa
Monica.
Thank
you.
It's
something
for
the
hectic
city
of
Santa
Monica
California
had
a
very
good
program
that
we
took
a
lot
of
their
lessons,
learned
from
that
and
decided
to
be
proactive
with
the
situation
and
set
up
a
pilot
program.
S
It's
a
one-year
pilot
program
where
we
can
see
how
these
scooters
are
going
to
operate
within
our
arms
and
our
sidewalks
with
our
other
modes
that
we
have
available.
That
is
one
of
the
challenging
aspects
of
this.
Is
it
currently,
the
Florida
Statutes
only
allow
a
provision
for
cities
to
pass
an
ordinance
to
allow
scooters
on
the
sidewalks,
only
they're
not
allowed
anywhere
at
all.
Unless
the
city
passes
an
ordinance
and
even
then
we
can
only
allow
them
on
the
sidewalks
and
not
on
the
bicycle
lanes
or
low-speed
roads.
S
We
expect
because
of
lobbying
that's
going
on
in
Tallahassee
that
there
will
be
some
legislation
that
will
come
out
the
session.
Potentially
that
will
probably
change
that
and
allow
them
on
low-speed
roads
and
bicycle
lanes,
which
would
be
a
much
better
circumstance,
but
given
that
we
have,
that
is
our
only
option.
We're
going
to
go
forward
and
we've
put
in
as
many
onerous
control
aspects
into
this
program
as
possible
to
try
to
ensure
that,
within
this
time
frame
of
the
year
that
we
have
the
safest
condition
as
possible.
S
I'll
just
mention
a
few
of
those
to
you
just
so
you
can
kind
of
get
an
idea,
there's
technology,
that
the
vendors
have
available
where
they
can
do.
It's
called
geo
fencing
that
geo
fencing,
basically
controls
that
the
scooters
are
going
to
stay
in
our
designated
area,
which
is
the
last
page
of
the
document
that
I
just
shared
with
you.
That
map
is
showing
the
only
areas
that
we're
going
to
allow
these
scooters.
S
So
if
a
rider
goes
beyond
that
limit,
the
scooter
will
turn
off
and
they
will
glide
to
a
stop
and
then
it
kind
of
forces
them
to
go
back
into
the
proper
area,
we're
also
requesting
that
they
put
a
what's
called
the
governor
on
the
scooter
which
will
control
the
speed
to
about
six
miles
an
hour.
Currently
bicycles
can
ride
15
miles
an
hour
on
a
sidewalk,
so
you
can
imagine
we're
only
allowing
less
than
half
that
speed
on
our
sidewalks
with
the
scooters.
S
We've
also
been
very
specific
about
the
maximum
number
of
scooters
that
each
vendor
can
have
or
requiring
what
we're
calling
Corral's,
which
are
painted
areas
on
the
right-of-way
where
the
screws
will
have
to
be
staged.
We
don't
want
them
just
lying
about
anywhere
blocking
sidewalks
and
creating
problems.
We've
requested
that
they
have
a
liaison
available
24/7.
Then
we
can
contact
to
address
any
complaints
in
terms
of
scooters,
causing
an
issue
being
in
the
way
we've
asked
them
to
put
in
incentives
and
ways
to
disincentivize
bad
behavior
of
their
users.
L
S
The
protocols
we've
laid
out
the
users
are
responsible,
we
should
have
minimal
issues
and
we
should
not
have
to
tie
up
our
police
force
time
of
enforcing
any
bad
behaviors
that
we're
hopeful
that
that
will
be
decayed
if
things
just
get
go
awry
for
whatever
reason
at
all,
we
can
shut
down
the
program
immediately,
so
we
feel,
like
we've
done,
research
on
other
cities.
We've
taken
lessons
learned,
we've
put
in
the
best
framework
that
we
can,
under
the
circumstances,
to
have
a
safe
program.
S
And
again
we
are
wanting
to
offer
other
mode
choices
to
our
visitors
and
our
residents,
so
they
can
have
an
alternate
way
to
get
around
quickly
without
driving
a
vehicle.
So
that's
the
overview
of
the
program
and
I'm
here,
along
with
folks
from
the
Tampa
Police
Department
and
our
legal
department.
If
you
had
any
issue
of
questions
that
you'd
like
to
ask.
A
H
S
I'd
have
to
defer
to
my
expert
over
here
mr.
Calvin
Thornton
he's
gonna,
be
our
point
of
contact
during
this
program
he's
shaking
his
head.
No
he's
done
a
lot
of
research
to
see
who's
doing
what
how
many
scooters
different
cities
are,
allowing
for
example,
we
found
it
interesting
that
Los
Angeles
is
allowing
a
hundred
thousand
scooters
in
their
city
or
only
allowing
twenty
four
hundred.
So
no
sir.
A
A
J
Mess
with
TPD
yeah
basically
would
be
call
based.
So
if
we
get
a
complaint,
the
patrol
officer
or
the
bike
squad,
wherever
would
respond
to
that
and
would
address
the
complaint.
Obviously
there
will
be
a
legal
bulletin
put
out.
Our
officers
are
going
to
be
made
aware
of
the
ordinance
what
it
entails.
What
the
responsibilities
are.
So
you
know
the
primary
role
here
is
education.
F
F
H
H
J
Think
the
the
first
goal
is,
as
mrs.
caffeine
said,
if
somebody
leaves
the
scooter
out,
the
company
should
be
the
first
one
to
to
go
and
pick
that
up
and
I
know.
One
of
the
jump
I
believe
actually
has
a
provision
where,
if
somebody
leaves
the
scooter
in
a
place,
they
shouldn't
that
person
gets
charged
$25.
So
that
should
act
as
a
deterrent.
Last
resort.
Is
the
police
department
conducting
the
impoundment
correct.
H
A
E
E
S
E
S
E
E
S
E
Line
uses
juicers,
they
all
have
really
cool
names,
so
you
know
that
is
part
of
the
contract
and
part
of
the
reason
why
they
are
allowed
to
have
this,
which
is
different
than
all
these
other
cities
that
have
been
experimenting
with
the
scooters.
I
think
that
la
is
the
example.
It
was
either
LA
or
San.
E
Diego
I
can't
remember
which
one
where
they
just
dumped,
all
the
all
the
scooters
out
there,
and
it
was
an
incredible
headache
for
rights-of-way
for
sidewalks
other
things,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
but
this
is
the
reason
why
we've
created
this
pilot
project,
specifically
with
these
kind
of
restrictions
in
it.
The
other
thing
is-
and
this
is
something
I
was
having
a
conversation
with
somebody.
A
couple
days
ago,
we
have
the
geofencing
as
part
of
the
prohibition
on
7th
Bayshore
Boulevard,
the
Tampa
Riverwalk,
those
three
locations.
We
have
geofencing
correct.
Yes,.
S
E
E
S
E
E
We're
gonna
have
a
pretty
bad
year
of
the
pilot
project,
regardless
of
how
good
of
a
process
we
put
in
place,
because
people
are
gonna
be
using
it
on
sidewalks,
and
we
don't
want
that
if
the
legislature
passes
it
and
obviously
I
know
that
our
police
officers
are
going
to
be
well
informed
on
what
that
is
and
what
the
violation
will
be
if
they
are
using
it
on
sidewalks.
That
gives
it
an
extra
oomph
to
what
we
have
in
our
ordinance.
E
S
H
H
S
H
S
S
S
A
K
Quick
and
I
said
this
before
when
I
was
in
Dallas
and
I
saw
the
how
the
scooters
were
there,
a
lot
of
people
riding
them
and
I
saw
one
rogue
scooter.
That's
what
I'll
call
it
meaning.
It
was
just
knocked
over
I
think
if
it
was
in
front
of
a
CVS
on
the
sidewalk,
but
other
than
that
they
were
in
the
Corral's.
People
were
respectful
and
responsible
when
using
them,
I
didn't
see
them
weaving
in
a
traffic
thing.
You
know
foolish,
so
we'll
see,
I
mean
we'll
see
how
this
works.
K
J
S
H
S
S
I
We
have
we're
not
changing
anyway,
a
power
doing
tents
until
this
thing
is
resolved,
how
we're
doing
them.
Currently
it's
how
we're
going
to
continue
to
do
that
until
the
time
that
we
get
pretty
substantial
agreement
on
where
we're
going
for
that,
we
held
mr.
Dryden,
put
out
a
request
for
information
to
all
of
the
people
who
we
had
emails
for,
and
he
received
a
great
number
of
responses.
In
terms
of
you
know,
this
is
a
concern
or
that's
a
concern.
I'm
going
to
touch
on
a
couple
of
those
right
now.
I
It's
there
was
some
concern
about
having
professionally
architectural,
drawing
up
site
plans
and
engineering
plans
for
the
for
the
tents.
That's
a
cost.
We
think
that
we
can
really
get
reduce
that
amount
by
going
to
what's
called
plans
on
file.
We
do
that
through
our
affordable
housing
and
some
other
kinds
of
projects
you
pay,
for
you
know
one
type
of
tent
and
several
of
the
tent
folks
use
the
same
tents
again
and
again
and
again
you
pay
for
that
one
time,
and
then
you
just
go
to
do
another
event.
I
I
I
We
told
them
and
I
committed
to
that
further,
that
until
we
work
through
the
procedures
and
the
processes
and
the
cost
and
an
engineering,
all
these
other
items
that
have
that
come
up
that
we're
gonna
continue
to
meet,
and
they
were
very
happy
about
that.
So
we've
kind
of
that
reestablished
a
good,
a
much
better
working
relationship
with
the
industry.
I
Several
of
them
came,
and
they
were
talking
to
us.
There's
also
some
confusion
offered
about
when
an
electrical
or
an
electrical
permit
has
to
be
drawn
because
it's
some
of
the
events
people
are
using
generators
of
a
certain
capacity
at
other
other
tent
other
events
where
there's
a
tent
use.
They
have
a
Tico
power
pole
that
they
tie
into
that.
So
sometimes
people
that
electric
permits,
sometimes
they
don't.
We
have
to
work
through
the
clarification
as
to
you
know,
when
you're
under
condition
a
B
or
C.
You
need
to
get
an
electrical
permit.
I
I
I
There
is
another
concern
about
the
validation
of
the
fire
retardant
retardant
certificate
that
has
to
be
issued.
The
fire
marshal
works
very
closely
with
that,
and
you
know
that
will
bring
greater
clarification
to
that.
Although
the
fire
marshal
offices
is
pretty
consistent
with
how
they
make
that
application.
I
It's
a
four
stop
shop,
not
a
one
stop
shop
depending
on
the
event
and
the
size
you
may
have
to
go
to
Parks
and
Recreation
to
the
special
event
permitting
process,
and
then
that
takes
you
to
do
other
kinds
of
requirements
which
includes
automatically
a
fire
marshal
office
and
the
fire
marshal
and
the
special
events
coordinator,
they're,
both
over
at
and
on
Himes,
where
you
can
do
that
there.
But
then,
if
your
event
involves
alcohol
and,
as
you
know,
a
great
many
of
our
special
events
that
use
these
tents
do
involve
alcohol.
I
You
have
to
come
to
the
zoning
office
at
1400,
go
through
the
the
alcohol
beverage
permit
process
and
then,
depending
again
on
the
size
of
the
tent.
You
may
also
have
to
go
through
and
get
a
building
permit,
so
our
ultimate
goal
is
to
make.
But
that
process
that's
involving
several
departments,
not
only
just
my
building
department,
is
to
make
that
a
little
bit
more
streamlined
and
easier.
The
ultimate
goal
is
to
address
this.
This
entire
issue,
and
not
just
to
you,
know,
put
a
bandaid
on
something
to
go
forward.
I
I
Some
of
the
specific
items
that
councilman
Miranda
made
in
his
motion
was
about.
You
know
what
is
being
permitted
today
today
and
we're
having
change
it's
still
up
to
the
five
thousand
square
feet.
You
pulled
the
permit,
the
GC
and
stuff
like
that.
We're
not
changing
any
of
that.
Just
yet
and
I.
We
are
working
through
the
regulations
to
be
proposed.
The
scale
of
the
fees,
the
the
costs
associated
with
pulling
a
tent
permit.
Putting
on
this
thing
the
gentleman
that
spoke
this
morning,
it
talked
it's
almost
exclusively
about
the
cost.
I
That
is
an
area
that
we
can
work
in
the
cost
of
engineering,
almost
unanimously
the
the
industry,
individuals
that
were
in
attendance
to
agree
that
that
can
be
an
extremely
cost
e
requirement
upwards
of
a
couple
thousand
bucks
and
if
you're
going
to
do
one
event
or
two
events
and
you
got
to
come
in
every
time
and
turn
in
pay.
Fifteen
hundred
two
thousand
dollars
for
an
engineering
plan
that
is
cost
prohibitive.
E
E
File,
especially
if
they
are
a
vendor
or
purveyor
of
these
tents,
that
is
done
in
the
same
process
each
and
every
time
that
it
can
be
filed
for
them
to
say
we
do
100
tents
a
year.
This
is
the
process
we
use
for
these
size,
tents
and
then
it'll,
be
on
file
with
us,
correct
that
is
correct.
Okay,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
got
that
straight.
Thank
yes!.
I
I
We
did
do
a
little
research,
although
you
know
I'm
happy
to
say
in
my
27
years
here
with
the
city
of
Tampa.
There
hasn't
been
a
major
failing
of
an
event,
so
I
can
tell
you
that
councilman
Brandon,
but
we
did
Marvin,
did
do
some
research
and
he
found
that
between.
There
was
a
big
study
done
between
2010
and
2015,
and
they
had
you
know
minor
mishaps
in,
but
in
that
five
year
period
there
were
12
deaths.
Primarily
nine
of
those
deaths
came
from
carbon
monoxide
inhaling.
I
So
if
you
have
an
event
where
you
have
a
generator
too
close
to
the
tent,
that
could
be
gassing
into
the
tent
itself
and
people
have
died
because
of
that
two
people
have
died
because
of
a
tent
failure
and
one
died
of
the
tent
collapse
or
of
it
was
on
fire.
So
there
haven't
been
a
huge
amount
of
that,
but
in
that
five
year
period
that
we
study
it
actually
was
a
six
year
period.
It
there
were
some
deaths
and
that's
just
not
acceptable.
If
there's
something
that
we
can
do
to
help
prevent
that.
H
Imagine
you
have
a
generator
equal
to
or
greater,
then
more
people
die
in
a
house
and
they're
doing
a
tent,
especially
when
you
have
storms
in
this
area
yeah
and
throughout
the
areas
that
have
different
types
of
storms.
Well,
I
understand
what
you're
saying
I,
don't
accept
it
as
the
fact
not
that
you're
lying
or
not,
but
as
a
factual
matter.
You
didn't
compare
with
any
other
thing.
You
just
compared
it
to
a
tent.
You
compare
it
to
a
house,
you'll,
see
the
same
ratio
or
greater
that
great
passed
away
because
of
the
same
event.
H
I
What
what
are
they
doing
in
other
cities-
and
this
is
the
thing
that
we're
investigating-
perhaps
the
closest-
because
this
is
where
it
involves
using
requiring
a
general
contractor
to
do
this-
submittal
I,
believe
in
in
Clearwater
and
in
Bradenton
or
Manitou
County.
They
have
or
they
allow
a
person.
That
is
a
attempt,
installer
licensed
to
pull
the
permit.
We
did
approach
Hillsboro
County
about
allowing
that
to
happen
here.
I
We
didn't
quite
get
the
reception
that
we
wanted,
but
we're
gonna
continue
to
pursue
that
and
to
see
because
they're,
the
licensing
board
for
the
county,
and
we
have
to
abide
by
that
because
we
have
an
interlocal
agreement,
but
Jared
has
promised
me
he's
going
to
continue
to
work
and
to
see
if
we
can't
get,
because
that
is
going
to
be
one
of
the
other
big
expenses.
So
the
big
expenses
were
the
engineered
drawings
and
the
subcontractor
issue.
I
The
other
thing,
and
just
just
to
be
clear,
the
councilmen
that
asked
if
tents
are
required
to
have
sprinkler
systems
and
the
answer,
the
short
answer
to
that
is
no
they're,
not
I'm,
not
until
they
become
and
I
hope.
I'm
saying
this
right:
John,
not
until
they
become
a
permanent
structure
or
intended
to
be
a
permanent
structure.
Does
that
review
come
into
play?
What
is
more
common
is
that
they
are
required
to
do
what
is
called
a
fire
watch.
I
That's
when
you
place,
and
if
you
go
to
a
lot
of
the
events
on
Curtis
16
you'll
bump
into
Corey,
he's
down
there
as
on
a
fire
watch
and
that's
in
a
very
open
area.
A
lot
of
the
fire
watch.
Requirements
have
more
to
do
with
the
occupancy
load
and
the
number
of
attendees
and
the
place
of
assembly
type
things
and
as
the
tents
get
bigger,
the
occupancy
load
gets
bigger.
Triggering
the
possibility
of
a
fire
watch
requirement
so,
but
sprinklers
in
and
of
themselves
are
not.
I
And
yes,
we
did
conference
call
Julia
Mandel
from
the
campus
housing
part
temple
a
Sports
Authority
into
the
meeting,
and
she
was
in
attendance,
is
where
I
think
I
covered.
Most
of
that
was
perhaps,
when
the
longest
motions
I've
ever
had
to
look
at,
but
I'm
feeling
good
about
the
progress
we
made.
I
think
several
of
the
vendors
are
feeling
the
same.
I
didn't
bring
a
couple
of
testimonial
emails.
I
I
got
one
of
the
while
the
gentleman
and
and
one
of
the
women
who
were
the
most
outspoken
about
changing
the
process-
and
this
is
already
on
tape-
was
mr.
Pressman,
who
represented
galaxy
fireworks.
We
have
emails
from
both
of
them.
That
saying
this
is
a
great
start.
Let's
keep
this
going,
so
that's
where
we
are,
and
the
other
thing
is
too.
I
H
You
did
we
cover
everything
like
excuse
me,
mr.
chairman,
if
I
may
well,
what
was
the
permitting
process
before
today?
What
are
the
regulations
being
proposed?
Some
of
that
was
covered.
The
scales
of
fee
for
the
smallest
tent
so
far,
and
so
on.
I
want
to
know
the
whole
ramification
to
vote
on
the
whole
enchilada
before
I.
Take
the
bite
of
one
crab.
H
I
I
The
fees
I
I'm
gonna
have
to
bring
you
back
the
specific
information
on
the
size
of
the
tents,
but
it
you
know
the
the
actual
fees
for
tent
permitting.
It's
not
all
that
substantial
I
believe
that
the
cost
that
was
bothering
everybody
engineering
costs
using
a
GC
cost
repetitive,
submittals
cost.
Those
are
the
things
that
came
out
of
trying
to
say.
H
I
I
By
20
where's
Marvin
yeah
a
10
by
20,
we
would
start
to
want
to
look
at
that.
That's
120
square
feet
but
see,
and
there
and
there's
here's
the
challenge.
Councilman,
is
that
some
of
our
codes
today,
the
zoning
code
for
example,
says
that
if
you
have
120
square
foot
tent
to
be
up
for
more
than
24
hours,
you
have
to
go
through
a
process.
You're
like
a
vendor,
and
you
have
to
you-
have
to
meet
the
zoning
code.
I
You
have
to
do
certain
regulatory
kinds
of
things
for
a
tent
that
small
and
then
some
of
the
other
codes
don't
require
certain
kinds
of
reviews
until
they
get
up
to
900
square
feet.
So
there's
a
lot
of
disparaging
numbers
between
the
four
entities
that
I
described:
special
events,
fire
building
and
zoning.
The
goal
is
to
get
those
together,
but
but
right
now
we
are
not
requiring
or
doing
a
whole
lot
of
review
of
tents
up
to
it
up
to
5,000
square
feet.
I
H
Not
opposed
to
into
doing
something
on
the
large
events,
but
when
I
see
houses
that
have
tents
in
front
of
their
houses
for
carport
stuff
that
are
against
the
law
number
one
number
two:
they
don't
have
a
carport,
that's
what
they
have
and
no
one's
anything
for
fifty
years,
and
then
they
built
something
and
no
one's
done
anything
for
the
last
50
years
and
I'm
gonna
go
after
somebody.
We've
got
a
ten
by
twenty
ten
that
wants
to
pop
it
up
to
have
a
party
I
have
a
problem.
H
A
F
I
F
O
Carle
and
enrollment
coordination
I
have
been
sworn
just
to
recap.
This
is
a
petition
for
review
for
a
special
use,
su1
19
16
for
a
property
at
3426
Lambright.
The
issue
before
you
is
the
distant
separation,
a
perk
code
when
you
have
a
congregate
care
facility,
it's
a
1200,
linear,
foot,
separation,
distance.
This
is
the
Palouse
is
the
subject
property
the
property
located
at
3501
East
Norwood
is
316
feet
from
the
subject
property,
so
they're
asking
for
the
waiver
from
the
1,200
feet
down
to
the
316
feet.
That's
what's
basically
before
you
tonight,
any.
O
E
R
E
Ma'am,
could
you
give
me
your
name?
My
name.
Is
cats?
Remark?
Well,
okay!
Well,
it's
how
you
pronounce
it!
Yes,
okay,
I
apologize
for
not
being
here
when
you
first
presented
some
of
the
questions.
Now
you
do,
you
have
to
be
certified
by
the
state
in
order
to
open
up
your
assisted
living
facility
after
we
give
you
the
if
we
give
you
the
special
use
permit
to
do
so.
Yes,.
D
E
E
Have
you
been
in
this
type
of
business
before
previously
in
a
different
state
in
a
different
state
which,
which
day
was
it
Kansas
you
were
in
Kansas?
Oh,
yes,
well!
Welcome
to
Florida.
Thank
you
in
in
in
terms
of
this,
this
is
a
house
that
you
either
did
you
inherit,
or
did
you
buy
it
for
this
I
just
bought
the
house?
You.
D
E
So
your
your
application
is
that
let
me
see
how
I
can
ask
this.
You
have
already
purchased
that
the
property
you're
not
waiting
for
a
approval
from
us
first
in
order
to
purchase
the
property.
Is
that
correct?
No
I
already
bought
the
property.
Let's
see
terrific,
when
you
bought
the
property,
were
you
looking
at
making
this
into
an
assisted
living
facility
at
that
time?
Yes,.
E
D
In
my
acquirement
and
I
found
that
the
person
who
owned
a
business
around
that
vicinity
had
a
sister
living
service
that
he
was
doing
there
and
he
deals
actually
with
a
different
category
of
the
clients
that
we
work
with.
So
that
was
main
reason
why
I
didn't
make
any
other
suggestion
that
it
will
not
pass
because,
usually
with
the
state
of
Florida
according
to
APD,
if
both
partners
are
not
doing
the
same
business,
they
don't
have
a
problem
with
it.
E
D
E
Sounds
to
me,
like
you,
didn't
know,
because
you
obviously
did.
The
category
is
based
on
what
the
state
is
saying.
It's
not
based
on
the
the
separation
for
this
particular
purpose.
That's
the
reason
why
I
asked
that
question
okay,
so
you
already
knew
that
there
was
a
there
may
be
a
problem
with
the
city
concerning
the
did
the
separation
of
the
distance
from
one
facility
to
another.
Yes,.
D
B
A
C
J
C
I
talked
with
Gloria
at
the
Zoning
Department
land
development
coordination
and
she
said
that
this
item
had
been
denied
and
the
reason
it
was
denied
is
because
we
have
the
same
type
facility
on
37th
Street
and
it
should
be
1200
feet
apart,
and
this
comes
within
316
feet.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
children.
C
We
have
a
school
or
elementary
school
in
our
area
and
we
have
50
kids,
that
the
park,
woodland,
Terrace
park
staff
go
to
the
school
every
day
and
get
the
children
and
they
walk
them
from
school
to
the
park
for
after-school
care
until
their
parents
can
come
and
pick
them
up.
We
want
a
very
safe
environment
for
our
children.
C
A
C
F
A
F
F
A
J
A
J
B
B
B
B
You
see
it,
but
we
were
here
for
the
three
people
and
the
ten
people
very
quietly
back
here.
That
was
not
our
fault
because
of
the
time.
What
I'm
saying
is:
there's
some
issues
here
that
she
went
out
and
did
the
reporting
and
I
want
to
know
if
they've
been
resolved
and
I,
don't
know
how
we're
gonna
answer
this
question.
B
A
B
D
My
name
is
Katherine
Makua,
I'm,
sorry
for
what
they
are
all
disagreeing
with
this
current
situation
that
I'm
saying
the
same
children
that
I
went
to
live
in
that
home,
they
are
going
to
go
to
the
same
neighborhood
school.
They
are
going
to
the
same
neighborhood
school.
So
how
would
they
try
to
deprive
another
children
from
benefiting
from
the
same
common
that
their
own
parent
also
pay
taxes?
D
Is
it
not?
All
of
us
who
knows
will
be
disabled
tomorrow?
Are
we
born?
People
are
born
with
disability.
Do
we
when
we
are
pregnant
as
mothers
do
we
know
the
type
of
children
we
are
going
to
bond?
Do
we
know
the
type
of
children
we
are
going
to
give
birth
to?
So
why
would
I
want
to
deprive
a
child
with
a
learning
disability
to
not
stay
in
the
community?
Is
that
fair?
A
D
Sorry
about
that,
no
it's
just
something
that
is
just
like:
you
are
depriving
another
parents
with
children
with
real
mental
disability
and
learning
disability,
not
to
stay
in
an
environment
that
is
integrated.
That
is
not
fair
to
me.
It
is
not
fair.
It
is
not
fair.
This
children
with
learning
disability
don't
cause
any
issue
in
the
community
because
the
same
school
that
all
these
children
are
attending,
they
have
children
in
the
neighborhood
with
behavior
disorder.
Have
the
principal
refused
them
from
going
to
that
school
I?
Don't
think?
So?
No!
D
A
E
I'll,
take
this
I'm
I
move
to
uphold
deeds.
Only
administrators
denial
especially
use
permit
application,
su1
19
16,
because
petitioners
failed
to
demonstrate
that
the
petition,
if
the
waiver
is
granted
that
is
consistent
with
the
applicable
general
standards
set
forth
in
section
27,
129
c,
section
27,
61,
sub
B
and
27
127
sub
B
sub
2.