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A
A
In
attendance
this
evening,
our
Jared
Simpson
assistant
city
attorney,
Roberta,
Meade,
curry
and
LaShawn
dock
of
land,
development
coordination
and
Mr
Bryan
Knox
of
natural
resources.
I
will
take
just
a
few
minutes
to
review
tonight's
procedures.
Cases
will
be
called
in
the
order
that
they
appear
on
the
agenda
when
your
case
number
and
applicants
name
are
called,
please
stand
in
either
aisle
to
the
side
of
the
room.
To
acknowledge
that
you
are
here,
staff
will
then
give
a
brief
introduction
to
the
board
of
each
application.
A
When
you
approach
the
podium,
please
speak
into
the
microphone
and
state
your
name
address,
and
if
you
have
been
sworn
in,
the
applicant
and/or,
their
agent
will
have
ten
minutes
to
give
testimony
present
witnesses
and
documentation
as
a
part
of
their
presentation.
This
is
your
time
to
present
all
of
your
evidence.
Anyone
in
the
audience
wishing
to
speak
in
support
of
or
in
opposition
to
the
application
will
then
have
three
minutes
each
after
that.
The
board
may
have
an
opportunity
to
ask
questions
regarding
the
application.
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Finally,
the
applicant
will
have
an
additional
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal
if
needed,
the
time
periods.
As
stated
will
be
kept
by
the
chair,
any
information
set
such
as
pictures
of
plans
that
have
not
been
previously
submitted
as
a
part
of
your
petition,
and
you
intend
to
present
at
this
hearing
for
consideration
in
support
of
your
petition,
must
be
individually
presented
and
accepted
by
the
board.
After
acceptance
by
the
board,
you
must
submit
the
item
to
staff
for
it
to
be
entered
and
made
a
part
of
the
permanent
record.
A
The
board
bases
its
decision
on
competent
and
substantial
evidence
which
is
presented
this
evening
and
which
meets
the
criteria
required
by
the
city's
Code
of
Ordinances.
The
variance
granted
by
the
board
will
be
for
only
what
is
shown
on
the
site
plan
and
will
be
compliant
with
any
terms
and
conditions
stated
in
the
approval
by
the
board.
You
must
have
four
votes
for
your
variance
to
be
approved
if
an
insufficient
vote
is
obtained,
the
case
shall
be
automatically
carried
over
for
consideration
of
the
board's
next
meeting.
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A
If
you
wish
to
appeal
the
variance
review,
Board's
decision
to
City
Council,
you
must
file
a
petition
for
review
of
a
board
decision
within
10
business
days
of
the
decision.
If
your
variance
is
granted,
you
will
not
be
able
to
pull
any
permits
until
after
the
10-day
appeal
period
has
passed.
Your
cooperation
will
help
ensure
that
this
meeting
runs
smoothly
and
will
be
greatly
appreciated
before
we
begin
the
first
case,
is
there
any
business
regarding
the
agenda
that
staff
would
like
to
address.
D
A
E
C
A
D
Mr.
chair
would
just
say
that
we
do
we.
We
do
have
vacancies
if,
if
anyone
knows
anyone
interested
in
participating,
they
can
contact
Erik,
cotton
at
the
land,
development
coordination
department
and
we're
looking
for
folks,
we've
got
an
open,
arborist
seat,
Landscape
Architect
as
well
as
an
alternate,
and
mr.
chairman,
your
you
informed
me
that
your
term
will
be
expiring
shortly
as
well.
It's
a
couple
of
months
away
yeah,
so
we
are
looking
for
folks.
So
we
would
encourage
you
all
to
tell.
E
F
A
D
A
A
A
What
I'd
like
to
tell
the
applicant
and/or
their
agents
and
or
anybody
else
who's
here
to
speak
tonight.
We're
not
gonna
completely
rehear
this
case,
like
we
did
last
month.
We
don't
need
to
hear
it
again.
I
could,
as
chair
just
move
straight
to
a
vote,
but
lots
of
folks
turned
out.
We
want
you
to
have
your
opportunity,
so
please
limit
your
comments
to
new
evidence.
Only
please
don't
share
with
us
what
you've
already
told
us
all
of
the
board
members
that
are
here
were
here
last
month.
Mr.
Bester
had.
G
D
D
H
D
A
H
H
The
address
is
69
15,
North,
River
Boulevard.
The
code
sections
under
review
this
evening
is
section
27
to
the
applicant
is
seeking
to
reduce
the
wetland
setback
from
25
feet
to
7
feet
on
the
north
side.
Yard
applicant
is
seeking
to
the
best
existing
conditions
of
accessory
structure.
I'll
bring
you
up
to
date
on
your
request
from
last
hearing
on
that
the
property
is
owned.
S
hrs,
which
is
Seminole
Heights
residential
single-family,
the
Hillsborough
County
property.
Appraiser
information
was
included
in
your
previous
packet.
H
D
D
D
A
No,
no
I
wasn't
suggesting
that
I
wanted
them
to
know
and
allow
them
to
decide
before
we
spend
more
time
sure
that
is
that
appropriate
sure.
Okay,
so
if
you
don't
mind
applicant
you're
here
just
so,
you
understand
that
if
three
people
deny
you're
done,
you
don't
get
to
come
back
on
this
application,
but
it
will
take
four
of
us
to
approve
that's
the
rule
of
the
board.
Okay,.
A
I
H
H
H
Again,
further
into
what
we
call
the
wetland
looking
down
the
street
to
the
north
and
again
looking
down
the
street
to
the
south,
better
shot
of
the
front
yard,
there
was
wetland
information
received
from
EPC.
That
report
was
included
in
your
package.
I
won't
go
into
that,
but
this
was
the
drawing
delineating,
the
wetland
top
a
bank
and
the
25-foot
setback
and
Brian
Knox
is
here
to
go
into
that.
If
you
need
further
information
to
learn.
H
A
I
You,
my
name,
is
Erin
Murphy
by
addresses
three
five:
zero
Questacon
Street
Tampa
Florida
three,
three,
six,
two
nine
I
have
been
sworn
in
in
an
interest
of
taking
heed
to
the
recommendations
of
the
board.
I'll,
keep
it
short
and
to
the
point,
with
the
information
we
were
instructed
to
take
a
look
at
the
way
that
variance
was
put
together
along
with
the
accessory
structure
and
in
meeting
with
Roberta
and
Mike.
I
I
I
I
This
Loft
is
unique
because
it
has
a
wetland
that
runs
along
the
side
of
it.
This
is
a
man-made
canal
built
some
time
ago,
and
that
is
where
the
beauty
of
a
lot
is.
That's,
where
the
be
cedar
is
that's
where
the
natural
area
of
the
lot
is,
and
if
you
have
the
25
foot
setback,
it
leaves
absolutely
nothing
left
on
that
side
of
the
residents
to
enjoy.
I
As
stated,
we
do
think
it
is
consistent
with
the
Seminole
Heights
area
and
the
residents
there
that
love
to
be
outdoors
and
enjoy.
That
is
also
has
no
safety
issues
for
the
surrounding
areas
or
the
residences.
In
the
area.
It
falls
a
hundred
percent
on
private
property.
There
is
a
six-foot
privacy
fence
along
the
right-of-way,
keeping
anyone
else
from
coming
into
that
area,
so
there
should
be
no
safety
or
welfare
issues.
I
A
Right
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
application
either
in
favor
or
against
and
again
I'm
gonna
remind
you,
I,
don't
want
to
hear
the
stuff
that
we
heard
before
give
me
something
new,
because
I
don't
think
there
were
any
issues
or
questions
that
remain
and
be
sure
to
state
your
name
address
and
if
you've
been
sworn.
Thank
you
I.
J
J
Okay,
so
the
only
thing
that's
new
is
the
bottom
left
and
the
bottom
middle
picture,
in
addition
to
the
safety
hazard
of
blocking
the
hydrant.
Now
this
structure
is
going
to
be
one
foot
away
from
the
building
and
not
five
feet
that
550
separation
is
to
keep
fire
extension
from
traveling
from
one
structure
to
the
other.
So
that's
a
new
safety
issue
for
your
consideration.
J
The
applicant
had
three
letters
of
support.
Only
one
was
signed,
so
two
were
not
signed.
So
my
daughter
and
I
created
this
petition.
We
went
throughout
the
neighborhood
and
we
made
all
participants
read
the
petition
first
and
view
the
pictures
that
are
on
the
next
slide
before
they
signed.
Everyone
had
full
knowledge
of
what
they
were
signing
and
even
though
some
of
the
residents
were
so
upset,
they
wanted
their
spouse
to
sign.
J
We
told
them:
no,
because
we
wanted
to
show
you
that
there
was
one
you
know:
different
people,
not
four
or
five
under
the
same
roof.
26
out
of
27
people
signed
a
petition.
The
one
person
who
did
it
was
young
guy
about
my
daughter's
age.
He
said
he
wanted
more
information
and
he
probably
wanted
her
to
come
back.
Everyone
signed
a
petition.
These
are
the
pictures
they
all
saw.
The
one
letter
of
support
that
the
applicant
had
is
from
this
guy
right
across
the
creek,
who
was
fined
$450
for
dumping
into
the
wetness.
J
You
can
see
there
how
many
times
I
requested
public
records
on
line
three
I
follow
up
because
it's
been
over
a
month
since
I've
seen
the
records
on
line
six
I
realized,
miss
Beck
is
involved
and
even
though
I
have
never
seen
her
spoken
to
miss
Beck,
a
prior
experience
from
a
while
ago,
resulted
am
I
need
to
accept
but
verify
everything
that
respect
was
providing.
So
you
go
all
the
way
down
to
line
25
today
of
December
hearing
I
still
don't
have
no
records,
and
mr.
J
Knox
comes
up
here
after
being
sworn
in
and
incorrectly
informs
you
that
the
County
EPC
made
a
no
erosion
determination.
So
in
line
26
I
contacted
EPC
on
line
27
and
responded
me
and
said.
We
never
said
that
on
line
28
December
19,
the
EPC
contacts
miss
Beck
and
request
that
she
immediately
change
her
report.
She
does
and
then
she
back
dates
it
to
December
4th
the
original
report
to
date,
I
still
have
not
received
either.
One
of
these
reports
and
I've
made
you've
seen
how
many
requests
so
since
that
time.
J
Oh
we're
missing
a
slide.
Well,
since
that
time,
I
had
to
make
other
records
request,
because
I
anticipated,
maybe
natural
resources
coming
in
here
and
now
saying,
we've
made
the
determination
so
I
was
able
to
nail
down
either
miss
Beck
nor
mr.
Knox
possess
any
specialized
training,
education
or
certifications
to
determine
queequeg
erosion.
Neither
miss
Beck
nor
mr.
Knox
used
in
you
before
after
photographs
to
make
a
determination.
Neither
miss
Peck
nor
mr.
Knox
used
any
surveys
all
right.
How
do
I
I
need
to
play
this
I?
Don't
know
how
to
get
there.
K
So
sorry,
mr.
Gonzalez
is
torturing
you
guys
now
he
has
been
there's
a
big
big
neighborhood
dispute
over
on
River
Boulevard
and
he's
he's
just
been
real
challenge
to
deal
with.
He
turned
his
neighbor
in
for
construction
without
a
permit
and
they
built
within
the
wetland
setbacks
and
the
reef
and
I
thought.
J
K
So
it
was
more
of
a
conversation.
I
had
and
I
was
just
trying
to
downplay
mr.
Gonzalez
assertions
that
it
was
eroding
into
the
little
tidal
area
there,
which
it
wasn't
and
I
was
out
there
on
several
occasions
and
didn't
see
any
erosion
didn't
see
anything,
and
it
was
really
more
my
my
opinion
if
it
came
across,
but
you
said
it
I
apologize,
but
I
might
have
said
that
to
mr.
Gonzalez
just
to
calm
him
down
the
case
got
continued
not
because
of
the
wetland
setback
because
of
building
separations,
so
I
apologize
just
what
mr.
K
Gonzalez
no.
That
was
my
opinion
and
that,
but
it
had
been
a
conversation
with
whoever
went
out
there
to
do
the
wetland
delineation.
I,
don't
remember
they
called
me
in.
It
was
not
sure
why
they
were
out
there
or
what
we
what
the
city
had
needed
for
me,
pcs.
So
it
was
a
short
conversation.
They
said.
No,
they
didn't
see
any
problems
and
that's
all
they
said
so.
K
A
B
B
J
Sir
Michael
Gonzalez,
69,
16,
North,
River,
Boulevard
and
I've
been
sworn
in.
Sorry
I
might
have
missed
that
before
I'm
I
saw
the
report
and
you
can
see
in
the
first
line.
It
says
this
had
been
there
since
2011
and
your
records
you'll
see
where
the
carport
was
put
in
in
2014.
It
wasn't
2011
and
it
says
no
violation
with
chapter
111.
Then
when
you
go
down
to
the
bottom,
it
says
anybody
who
disturbs
the
wetlands
without
express
written
consent
from
the
EPC
director
or
designee
is
a
violation
of
chapter
111.
J
So
I
don't
understand
how
somebody
can
build
without
a
permanent
of
wetlands
and
not
be
violating
chapter
111.
When
it
specifically
says
you
have
to
have
written
authorization
from
the
EPC
director
before
any
work
is
done
so
that
it
just
makes
no
sense
to
me
it's.
You
know.
It
says
one
thing
opinion
and
it
contradicts
it
right
down
here
very
clearly.
B
B
I
see
that
as
an
agent,
your
contractor
installing
the
work
without
a
permit
that
imputes
to
you
or
your
family,
as
as
an
and
as
unfair
as
that
may
be,
you
can
take
that
up
with
the
contractor,
but
I
I
read
that
as
imputing
to
your
agent,
your
action
are
there
other
hardships
that
you
can
call
my
attention
to,
so
that
I
can
evaluate
those
in
evaluating
your
petition.
Yeah.
I
The
additional
hardship
that
we're
speaking
about
this
evening
was
the
log
on
the
north
side
is
losing
50
feet
to
a
man-made
canal
that
has
now
been
deemed
a
wetland.
So
once
you
removed
that
50
feet
and
then
you
add
the
wetland
setback
into
it,
that
leaves
no
side
yard
left
by
the
home
to
enjoy
the
natural
wetland
area
that
natural
canal.
That
is
that
excuse
me,
that's
the
hardship
that
I
think
truly
exists
for
the
property.
I
N
A
Mr.
Gonzalez
just
testified,
he
didn't
understand
how
somebody
could
build
inside
a
wetland.
This
case
is
not
inside
the
wetland
correct
it's
in
the
wetland
setback,
correct!
Okay,
do
you
know,
as
a
surveyor
I'm
glad
to
hear
that?
Do
you
happen
to
know
the
history
of
the
wetland
when
when
was
it
a
wetland,
when
did
it
become
an
official
wetland?
So.
I
That's
hard
to
determine
to
be
honest
with
you:
it
was
a
man-made
canal
Akande.
There
was
a
article
that
my
dad
provided
I
guess
previously
from
a
long
long
time
ago,
or
they
showed
this
can
now
be
made
in
people
swimming
in
it
and
kind
of
enjoying
it
as
a
community
area
and
I
guess,
once
that
community
use
started
to
decay
a
little
bit
and.
I
A
I
A
A
I
A
I
Not
that
I
can
argue
this
evening
if
I
had
some
more
time.
I
think
that,
due
to
the
the
man-made
nature
of
that
canal,
there's
probably
a
little
more
to
go
into
it,
but
I,
don't
think
it
needs
be
touched
on
this
evening.
I
I
do
think
that
the
comment
sheet
coming
back
from
the
EPC
and
Christine's,
who
is
a
licensed
environmental
person,
speaks
to
the
condition
of
the
existing
wetland
and
the
condition
of
the
wetland
as
affected
by
reducing
the
setback
not
having
any
effect
and
not
having
them
any
reason
to
be
against
this
variance.
Okay,.
A
I
A
You
know
we're
hearing,
you
know
concerned
testimony
from
neighbors
about
the
condition
of
the
bank
and
yes,
you're,
not
you
don't
work
for
EPC.
We
all
understand
that,
but
you
are
in
natural
resources
and
and
have
you
dealt
with
site
conditions
similar
to
this
in
your
everyday
business
with
the
city?
Or
is
this
something
that's
kind
of
like
way
out
of
left
field?
No.
A
I
I
One
more
second,
we
just
wanted
to
bring
them
to
the
attention
that
a
lot
of
the
pictures
shown
previously
on
the
PowerPoint
were
dated
as
far
back
as
what
was
a
twenty
2012-2013
there's,
some
very,
very
old
pictures
in
there
of
vehicles.
Actually
one
of
the
vehicles
in
the
photo
was
mine,
I
sold
it
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
so
I
know
that
for
a
fact,
they're
a
little
bit
older.
Thank
you.
C
A
E
You
know
had
been
gone
through
permitting
process,
then
you
know
this
all
would
have
come
up
that
we
would
have
been
discussing
about
it.
Variance
at
that
point
not
at
this
point
and
then
the
discussion
of
with
about
EPC
and
all
those
things
could
have
taken
place.
You
know
before
it
all
happened,
so
you
know
a
lot
of
times.
We
we
see
these
things
where
things
are
built
and
then
there's
a
discussion
that
it
makes
sense
to
leave.
E
It
I
just
have
a
very
difficult
time
in
approving
that,
given
so
many
variables
here
and
the
fact
that
you
know
that
structure
as
well
as
other
structures
that
you
know
that
have
been
seen
in
photos
here
have
been
built
on
this
property
over
numerous
years
and
so
therefore
I
I
just
really
can't
see
voting
YES
for
this.
So
I
think
for
the
sake
of
us
coming
to
a
decision.
E
In
that
case,
I
would
move
that
variance
request
for
VRB
20-1
for
property,
located
at
69
15
North
River
Boulevard
in
Tampa,
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
to
seek
relief
from
section
27
286.
In
order
to
reduce
the
wetland
setback
from
25
feet
to
7
feet
on
the
north
side
of
the
property.
E
That
said,
variances
condition
not
be
approved,
in
other
words,
be
denied
due
to
failure
of
the
petitioner
to
meet
its
burden
of
proof
to
provide
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
with
practical
difficulty
ones,
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
as
set
forth
in
section
27
80
of
the
city
code.
And
that
specifically,
that
this
is
indeed
a
self-imposed
hardship.
Structures
have
been
built
on
this
property
and
particularly
without
permit
I'm.
Not
withstanding.
That,
like
a
permit
and
I,
think
that
at
this
point.
B
B
There
was
a
hardship
that
was
raised
and
it
was
the
the
man-made
canal
becoming
a
wetland
at
some
point,
essentially
part
of
their
property
gradually,
and
you
know
that
that
impact
is
in
some
ways
unique,
particularly
because
there
are
other
properties
down
the
line.
That
may
not
be
impacted
as
much
that,
coupled
with
the
newly
submitted
EPC
report,
which
was
also
a
concern
last
time
that
the
report
you
know
we
had,
we
had
EPC,
not
objecting,
but
we
didn't
really
have
an
understanding
of
what
that
objection
or
non
objection
was
so.
B
D
Mr.
chairman,
if
I
may
just
raise
a
point
of
order
that
accorded
to
the
Roberts
rules
that
apply
to
this
hearing
when
a
motion
is
made,
if
there's
not
a
second,
then
that
motion
is
essential
owners
null.
It
doesn't
go
anywhere.
So
I
think
it
may
be
a
point
of
clarification
or
a
point
of
order
that
this
motion
needs
to
either
be
seconded
or
the
chair
needs
to
open
up
a
floor
to
open
up
the
floor,
to
entertain
new-new
motions.
A
D
F
F
Last
month,
which
is
that
the
applicant
has
at
least
demonstrated
a
number
of
the
hardship
criteria
that
we
are
to
consider.
So,
aside
from
the
fact
that
I
don't
believe
that
this
will
cause
injury
to
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
others,
as
mr.
Feldman
pointed
out,
the
nature
of
the
property
and
the
location
of
it
has
it
sounds
like
has
caused
the
setback
line
to
recede
over
time,
which
is
certainly
not
a
self-created
hardship
and
is
unique
to
the
property.
F
K
C
A
I
think
I
was
the
one
that
raised
the
objection
or
the
question.
I
should
say
about
the
separation
between
the
accessory
structures
and
I.
Was
we
heard
tonight
that
apparently
it's
gonna
be
handled
in
a
staff
review
which
usually
means
it's
a
it's,
not
a
major
request.
That's
kind
of
how
design
exceptions
work
there
they're
requested
variances
that
are
on
a
more
minor
nature
than
what
this
board
would
hear
about.
So
I'm
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
it's
being
handled
on
a
staff
level,
as
was
previous
stated
by
mr.
A
V
I,
believe
a
lot
of
times
when
we
get
these
kinds
of
cases
where
something
was
built
without
a
permit
and
had
it
gone
through
the
correct
process
of
coming
to
the
board.
First,
we
always
have
that
opportunity
to
say
okay,
why
does
it
have
to
go
there
as
opposed
to
somewhere
else
on
the
line,
and
that's
when
we
hope
to
hear
arguments
or
not
arguing
but
hardships?
A
Last
month
and
I
don't
want
to
go
into
a
lot
of
that,
but
a
lot
of
them
were
were
code
issues,
zoning
violations,
we're
not
zoning,
but
but
what
code
violations?
That's
not
what
we're
here
about,
but
my
sense
is
that
what
what
I
heard
tonight
from
mr.
Gonzalez
was
that?
Yes,
there's
concern
about
the
bank,
but
it's
not.
It
doesn't
seem
to
be
causing
anybody
any
harm,
and
so
because
it
is
a
significant
side
of
the
property
and
it
is
a
water
feature.
A
To
tell
if
you
know,
if
there's
a
problem
here
or
not,
and
whether
there's
enough
vegetation
or
riprap
on
the
bank
so
because
EPC
was
in
contacted
to
come
out
and
make
that
determination,
I
get
that
but
I'm
comfortable
with
the
city's
look
at
it.
I
guess
so,
because
I'm
not
seeing
any
significant
I'm,
not
hearing
about
any
other
significant
damage
being
done
to
neighbors.
A
A
D
Yes,
mr.
chairman
I
think
you
would
open
up
for
a
vote
again
and
it
does
appear
that
this
would
fall
under
the
same
rule
that
we
we
felt
victim
victim
to
last
month,
where
it
says
it's
high.
The
rule
is
5.2
and
it's
insufficient
or
a
tie
vote,
but
it
if
there's
insufficient
votes
to
achieve
of
an
action
of
the
board
and
it
would
automatically
continue.
But
the
board
does
need
to
go
through
the
through.
F
Moved
that
the
variance
request
for
case
VRB
to
0.01,
located
at
69
15,
North
River
Boulevard,
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
reduction
in
the
wetland
setback
from
25
feet
to
7
feet
on
the
north
side
yard,
be
approved,
because
the
applicant
has
provided
evidence
of
the
five
hardship
criteria,
specifically
that
the
property
itself
has
unique
characteristics,
both
located
on
Canal
and
the
shape
of
the
property.
Additionally,
it
does,
it
doesn't
appear
that
there
is
any
significant
hardship
or
excuse
me.
F
A
M
A
D
Mister
mr.
chair,
if
I
may
also
just
set,
add
that
that
the
the
matter
is
closed.
Up
hearing
is
closed
on
this
case
right
and
it's
not
appropriate
to
submit
additional
evidence
to
the
board
in
the
interim
if
the
applicant
or
the
folks
that
want
to
participate
or
staff
wants
to
amend
or
add
additional
evidence
to
this
case.
D
It
shouldn't
happen
in
the
the
anteroom
and
I
know,
there
was
an
email
that
was
sent
with
the
with
the
staff
reports,
and
then
the
board
did
open
up
the
hearing,
but
I
would
just
ask
that
for
this
time
around
when
we
come
back
that
this
hearing
is
closed
and
if
anyone
wants
to
supplement
the
record,
that's
already
been
created
for
the
last
two
hearings
that
that
be
done
at
the
hearing
next
month
after
the
board
chooses
to
open
the
hearing,
should
they
choose
to
do
it?
So
what?
D
What
should
happen
next
month
is
that
the
board
will
entertain
the
idea
of
either
opening
the
hearing
again
to
receive
this
additional
evidence
or
proceeding
right
to
a
vote.
If
there
is
no
evidence
and
yes,
we
could
go
right
to
a
vote
correct
and
it
would
be
the
pleasure
of
the
board
whether
or
not
they
want
to
hear
from
folks
as
to
whether
or
not
there
is
it.
D
H
H
The
code
sections
in
review
tonight
is
chapter
27
156.
The
applicant
is
seeking
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
from
25
feet
to
20
feet,
to
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
7
feet,
2
inches,
the
variant
variance
would
be
for
new
construction
of
a
single-family
residence.
The
property
is
zoned
rs.100,
the
Hillsborough
County
property.
Appraiser
information
is
included
in
their
packet
for
your
reference.
H
A
N
Evening,
mr.
chairman,
members
of
the
variance
review
board
and
mr.
Simpson,
my
name
is
John
Randolph.
My
address
is
suite
3700
Michael,
American
Plaza,
and
this
evening
I
have
a
pleasure
of
representing
Courtney
and
Beth
man
who
owned
this
property.
Courtney
is
with
me
this
evening
and
please
raise
your
hand.
Courtney
say
to
be
recognized.
N
Highlighted
flat,
this
is
called
Stoney
Point
subdivision.
It
was
planted
in
1956
and
this
is
a
plant
from
the
property
raisers
website
from
the
circuit
clerk
clerk
of
Circuit
Court,
page
33
flat
book
page
33,
page
22,
you'll,
see
him
highlighted
the
lot
and
as
it
was
laid
out
in
the
survey
which
I
have
here
as
well
a
scale
survey.
N
All
of
these
calls
are
consistent
with
the
survey
and
you'll
notice
that,
as
a
street
progresses
towards
the
bay,
these
are
all
square
Lots.
And
then
you
have
this
cul-de-sac
lot
and
then
another
interesting
phenomenon
when,
when
the
lot
was
laid
out,
this
was
dredged
up
from
the
bay,
so
seawall
was
built
so
when
the
lot
was
laid
out,
the
seawall
meandered
up
and
over
for
some
reason
we
don't
know,
but
it's
not
consistent
with
the
plat.
You
see
the
plant
has
a
100
foot
call
to
the
rear.
N
Here's
the
hundred
foot
call
in
the
rear.
This
is
Cortney
and
best
property
line.
However,
the
seawall
went
up.
Why
is
that
significant?
The
code
says
four
Lots
with
sea
walls.
The
depth
of
the
water
front
yard
shall
be
measured.
Perpendicular
to
the
center
of
the
seawall,
the
rule
presumes
that
everyone's
lot
is
a
square
like
these
and
that
the
seawall
is
consistent
with
the
property
line,
as
you
frequently
find
in
zoning
law,
there's
always
an
exception
to
the
rule,
and
that's
why
we're
here
this
evening.
N
N
What
I've
done
with
the
site
plan
is
again
I've
I've
shown
the
original
planted
lot
lines
in
green
and
I'll,
get
to
the
front
setback
in
a
moment
and
you'll
see
the
extraordinary
sea
wall
in
blue
and
then
the
new
home
is
indicated
in
yellow
the
current
home.
If
you
look
closely
is
in
red
and
you
can
see
the
current
home
which
predates
this
portion
of
the
code
extends
way
into
the
front
yard,
but
Courtney
has
followed
the
rule
and
he's
measured.
His
setback
perpendicular
from
the
seawall
25
feet
of
20
feet.
N
Excuse
me,
but
if
he
doesn't
here
he's
going
to
have
to
build
a
house
that
follows
the
Mandarin
of
the
seawall
and
that's
unfair.
That's
a
hardship,
that's
unique
to
the
property
and
that's
why
we're
here
this
evening,
so
we've
drawn
the
seawall
portion
to
the
house
at
7.2
feet
we're
following
the
rule
here
and
we
simply
want
you
to
approve
the
home
as
designed,
which
is
consistent
with
zoning.
On
the
front.
N
We've
also
indicated
the
meandering
curvature
of
the
cul-de-sac
going
back
to
the
Stony
Point
plant
you'll,
see
it
was
originally
there
and
that
cord,
bearing
is
about
48
feet
that
is
consistent
with
the
site
plan.
Kortnee
invest
simply
want
to
build
their
home,
of
course,
away
from
the
cul-de-sac,
but
that
requires
a
20
foot
setback
rather
than
25
he's
meeting
they're
meeting
the
25
foot
here,
where
it's
a
square
lot
like
everyone
else
in
the
subdivision,
but
they
need
a
variance
from
you
this
evening,
so
they
can
build
a
house,
that's
consistent
with
their
neighborhood.
N
That
is
consistent
with
the
code,
except
for
this
setback.
I
have
had
no
objections
of
this
application.
Do
it
due
to
an
error
of
my
own.
We
had
to
Reno
tiss
the
neighborhood
again,
so
they
received
two
notices.
An
explanatory
letter
explaining
the
error
in
my
previous
notice,
I
would
like
to
reserve
the
remainder
of
my
comments
for
rebuttal.
I,
respectfully
request
that
your
approval
this
evening,
I've
digested
the
hardship
criteria
in
the
back
of
you
would
like
to
read
that
in
the
interest
of
time,
I'll
wait
until
rebuttal
if
necessary.
Thank
you.
I
A
A
N
A
N
N
The
remainder
of
the
subdivision
is,
as
I
mentioned,
everyone
else
has
a
square
a
lot
and
they
can
easily
meet
25
and
Kortney.
In
best
case.
They
have
to
come
down
here
and
then
come
all
the
way
down
here
and
that's
unfair
as
compared
to
well
not
unfair.
It's
not
the
word
I'm,
losing
that's
a
hardship
as
compared
to
the
benefit
that
they're
upward,
the
other
neighbors
have
to
their
property
rights.
A
A
G
This
is
unique
as
the
cul-de-sac
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
is
not
square.
They
all
have
these
seawall
notches.
We've
seen
many
many
many
cases
from
these
neighborhoods,
so
I
think
maybe
a
more
salient
argument
than
this
is
unique
and
singular
might
be
that
it
actually
matches
the
character
of
this
neighborhood,
because
you
could
show
many
many
examples
where
houses
have
encroached
closer
to
20
feet
on
that
notch.
I
can
see
it
right
here
on
this
Google
map.
We've
got
so
I
just
want
to
point
that
out.
G
C
N
C
C
N
A
N
A
Anyway,
did
it
on
on
Google
Earth?
That
appears
to
also
approach
into
the
front
yard
setback
quite
a
bit
so
I'm
just
wondering
trying
to
answer
her
question
you
know
was:
was
that
consistent
throughout
the
rest
of
the
cul-de-sac,
Lots
with
the
older
homes,
and
that
was
how
they
dealt
with
the
hardship,
I
guess
there
was
no
rule
back
then.
Would
that
be
true?
There
was
no
zoning
rule.
A
N
A
A
A
G
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
Section,
27
80
the
city
code,
specifically
that
we're
dealing
with
a
cul-de-sac
curve,
front
yard
that
is
unique
to
just
a
few
properties
in
this
neighborhood
and
a
encroaching
seawall
in
the
rear
yard.
That's
unique
at
least
to
this
neighborhood
compared
to
a
regular
square
lot
and
although
the
property
extends
into
the
water,
the
the
actual
land
is
not
and
that
the
proposed
house
is
encroaching
much
less
on
the
front
yard
than
the
existing
house.
A
H
The
address
is
29:13
West,
Aileen
Street.
The
co
section
under
review
this
evening
is
section
27
156.
The
applicant
is
seeking
to
reduce
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
zero,
to
reduce
the
west
side
yard
setback
from
7
feet
to
4
feet,
to
reduce
the
east
side,
yard
setback
from
7
feet
to
3
foot.
Sorry
3.7
feet
best
existing
conditions
of
the
footprint
of
the
existing
primary
structure
built
in
1947
and
to
obtain
setback
reduction
for
the
carport
addition
for
the
covered
porch
area.
Again
the
work
done
for
the
covered
porch
area.
H
H
H
H
H
The
reason
I
show
this
one
is.
This
was
a
drawing
submitted
by
the
property
owner.
His
original
request
was
something
far
greater,
but
what
he's
asking
for-
and
his
final
request
is
something
less
so
he
verified
where
the
columns
were.
The
columns
to
that
structure
are
three
feet.
Point
seven,
eight
point:
seven
feet
from
the
side
property
line.
His
request
was
originally
a
two
foot.
H
A
O
Name
is
Leslie
Diaz
I
live
in
29:13
West
Eileen
3,
3
607
is
the
zip
code.
My
application
by
the
city
is
to
reduce
setbacks.
I
buy
the
property
that
way
with
the
less
setback
because
was
built
that
way
in
1940.
Wherever
is
I,
don't
pay
attention
I
just
paid
the
mortgage
and
live
over
there
with
my
girlfriend's
on
my
dog,
the
setback
is
zero
because
some
Italian
crazy
build
a
property
that
way
so
I'm.
A
big
problem
over
here
is
the
Porsche.
O
Somebody
called
the
city
because
they
say
that
I'm
building
in
that
Holly
I
don't
care
the
Holly
for
no
reason.
I
don't
want
it.
Even
when
some
people
walk
behind
the
Holly
I'm.
Just
talking
with
mr.
about
this
is
the
guy
behind
me.
I
want
to
try
to
see
how
I
can
do
EE
now
come
then
so
I
know
the
sewer.
The
sewer,
whatever
is
the
name
route
behind
that
property.
So
I
want
to
do
a
nice
plastic
fence
with
a
luggage.
O
Some
neighbors
keep
the
luggage,
so
city
can
get
access
to
the
Holly,
because
I
work
almost
seven
days
in
a
week
on
my
girlfriend
too.
So
that's
not
the
point
now.
I
just
do
that.
Forge
my
set
bag
with
with
the
backside
of
the
night
property.
This
must
be
one
feet
or
less
than
one
feet.
I
mean
I.
Just
look
at
the
paper.
You
got
the
paper
over
there.
I
do
all
that
groans
by
myself,
with
no
help
so
I
got
new
pictures
over
here.
It's
the
same
pictures
I,
don't
have
nothing.
O
New
I
have
three
more
than
20
feet
on
my
property,
so
whatever
call
the
city
call
because
they
think
building
something
in
that
Holly
I
got
a
particular
problem
with
one
neighbor
that
is
always
complaining
about
the
Holly.
When
the
guy
behind
me
build
some
property,
he
called
me
so
I
know
he's
the
guy.
That
is
this
admitting.
He
called
me
because
my
neighbor
his
building
behind
my
property
I,
don't
care.
It's
nice
is
pretty
I,
don't
care.
Another
neighbor
suit.
Put
some
pants
tree.
That
looks
very
nice
from
my
second
floor.
O
H
G
O
When
she
goes
there,
okay,
it's
a
big
porch
as
you
see
yeah,
so
my
guys,
they
put
a
big
beam
aluminum.
Being
that
that's
the
issue
with
the
Holly,
so
I
don't
want
to
leave
that
beam
to
the
Holly.
So
the
most
that
I
do
is
cook
that
for
freaking
beings
and,
of
course,
I
just
complete,
because
if
you
know
is
not
secure
and
that
happened
in.
O
You
know
what
the
hub
I
remember
going
to
happen,
because
I
don't
want
to
think
about
it.
That
happened,
I,
think
before
you
like,
or
in
July
or
June,
so
I
don't
want
to
leave
that
wind
Cecil
with
sis
on
till
I
get
the
permit
for
all
the
aluminum
binding
and
loose.
You
know,
that's
why
I
used
when
she
was
over
there,
my
god,
the
job
was
almost
completed.
I
just
put
the
last
two
panels.
O
G
I,
don't
think
that
you
know
the
issue
with
the
porch
is
not
the
alley.
You're
not
I
mean
the
houses
is
on
a
zero
lot
line,
but
that's
that's
a
different
issue.
The
issue
with
the
porches
that
it's
too
close
to
the
property
line
on
the
side.
Okay,
right,
yes,
and
so,
instead
of
seven
feet,
it's
closer
to
three
and
a
half
feet,
but
the
picture
we
saw
from
code
enforcement.
The
columns
are
up,
the
roof
wasn't
on
so
it
just
seems
like.
O
Yeah,
yes,
why
one
more
time
I
live
over
there
with
my
girlfriend
now
I
my
two
dogs
I
work
seven
days
a
week.
I
know,
though
body
care,
you
know
it's.
My
problem,
I
do
that
porch,
because
I
got
two
pit
bulls
and
they
played
over
there
I'm
trying
to
be
more
people.
What
happened
nice
beautiful,
but
the
dog
stays
inside
with
me.
So
of
course,
I
wanted.
I
wanted
go
out
inside
with
me,
but
I
want
the
dogs
clean,
so
they
are
no
little
dogs.
O
So
what
I
do
my-my
girlfriend
work
with
that
doctor
and
studium
knife?
So
when
I
do
just
right
now
they
are
playing
over
there,
so
they
lost
energy
because
sometimes
I
don't
have
time
to
walk
around.
So,
if
my
problem
is
you
know
what,
if
I
don't
have
my
dogs
I,
remove
the
damn
aluminum
bye,
bye,
I,
wanna
I,
don't
want
to
see
nobody
else
and
I
don't
want
to
come
back
over
here
now
to
get
over
here.
I'm
home
I
have
to
do
to
talk
to
you
guys
for
that
time.
O
I'm
on
call
I
have
to
ask
my
supervisor
does.
Thank
you.
You
know
I
don't
have
that
problem.
My
problem
is
my
dogs,
if
I
just
reduce
that
aluminum
they're
gonna
get
great
so
when
they
play
early
and
they
get
great
and
want
to
jump
in
my
truck
to
prove
my
free
service
called
get
got
my
two
dogs
yeah
they're
dogs.
They
are
not
humans,
so
you
know
I
can
talk
yeah,
you
know
what
don't
play.
What
is
where
that's?
Why
that's?
What
I'm
trying
to
cover
that
concrete?
G
G
So
what
I'm
saying
is
I
feel
like
the
biggest
issue
you're
going
to
encounter
with
us.
Is
that
side
setback,
because
it's
not
an
existing
condition
of
something
you
built.
If
you
were
to
meet
the
setback,
then
you'd
have
to
move
that
edge
about
7
feet.
To
get
the
7
foot
setback,
you
would
still
have
10
feet,
10
inches,
roughly
a
roof
for
your
dogs
or
whatever.
That's
the
code
enforcement
issues
that
you
built.
This
too
close
to
your
neighbor's
property
backs
high
on
the
side
on.
K
G
O
Feet
or
20
feet
7
feet.
Well,
you
train
up
from
the
pole
from
the
parameter
pole
from
my
pole
to
defense.
Yeah
I
almost
have
for
fees.
I
know
Oh
number
two
I
built
the
fence
inside
my
property.
Okay,
so
you
know
what
hey
guys
one
more
time:
I
don't
want
a
around
if
he's
good
good.
If
he's
no,
you
know
what
I
wanna
put
it
back.
I
wanna
sell
that
property
and
buy
me
another
property
that
my
dogs
can
live.
O
The
way
that
can
live,
he's
freakin,
10,
12,
16
years,
I'm
doing
that
I
work
seven
days,
I'm
not
doing
that
to
put
music
over
there,
I
don't
do
music
and
only
I
don't
make
no
parties
is
crazy.
I
want
it
for
my
dogs,
I
want
to
keep
it
that
way.
For
my
dog,
if
it's
no,
you
know
what
I
want
to
do.
I
want
to
take
it,
sale
that
property
and
go
to
annoy
bridge
I.
Think.
G
G
B
O
O
B
Pointed
out
the
house
was
built
right
there
up
against
that
alley.
You
know
60
80
years
ago,
hasn't
been
an
issue
to
anybody.
Anybody
who
bought
there
after
that
they
understood
what
they
were
getting
when
they
got
in
there.
So
I
there's
no
issues
with
that.
You
did
expand
it
recently
and
went
towards
the
side.
B
O
Of
course,
I
can
do
that
according
to
do
things
of
Koryak
upgrade
I
can
go
to
patch
supermarket
and
buy
the
invisible
fence
and
kill
the
damn
dog
again
90
pounds
dog
the
beautiful
90
pounds.
Do
you
want
to
tell
me
that
key?
Because
it's
a
kid
it's
better
than
many
people
that
I
know
and
many
people
that
I
know
be
that
stays
in
this
room
whatever
today,
hey
buddy
just
play
from
here
over
there
don't
go
over
there.
What
I
do
at
6:00
a.m.
when
my
girlfriend
wake
up?
O
The
first
thing
that
we
do
is
get
from
the
second
floor
down
stair
gross
code
walk
across
this
all
the
house,
the
big
dog
sleep
with
me
and
get
that
door
downstairs
and
there
to
play.
He
play
almost
our
15
minutes.
So
when
I
left
around
7:15
of
7:30
I
put
the
dogs
back,
they
little
key
dog
that
female
this
only
one
year
is
live
in
a
case
still
because
I
don't
want
to
buy
my
shoes
on
my
night
for
meters
I
work
hard
for
my
stuff.
O
O
B
B
O
You
see
that's
my
column
and
that's
the
end
of
the
fence,
so
when
trains
trains
from
here
that
way,
so
they
don't
get
really
wet
you
if
I
have
to
move
that
truth
must
to
be
over
here.
So,
oh
that
water
is
the
concrete
I.
Don't
think
that
concrete
is
if
the
water
that
they
don't
have
no
level
they're
gonna
get
deep
inside
my
concrete,
so
I'm
not
doing
nothing.
I'm,
not
I
mean
no
I
have
had
do
you
think
I
want
to
stay
over
here.
I,
don't
wanna
die
over
here.
Talking!
O
B
H
O
I
wanna
spray,
you
pretty
easy
I
wanna,
be
a
song
sing
at
the
front
of
my
house
number
one
to
do
something
like
this.
I
had
to
put
up
a
fence
and
leave
six
feet
that
big
Bush.
They
are
animals,
they
don't
sting
Hey,
don't
bark,
don't
go.
You
know
what
they're
gonna
be
barking
they're
gonna
be
worst
I'm
trying.
Let
me
tell
you
I'm,
trying
everything
that
I
can
even
I'm
trying
to
rescue
another
two
dogs.
You
know,
but
I
need
to
build
something
with
a
listen,
Pacey
mini-speech,
so
they
come
asleep.
O
I'm
rescuing
in
so
I,
don't
feel
bad
because
they
can't
sleep
inside.
Those
two
is
live
inside
with
me,
but
I
can't
break
another
to
sleep
inside
with
me,
not
those
big
dogs,
so
I'm
trying
to
rescue
and
I'm
trying
to
find
all
the
way
even
building
in
my
front
side
and
that
don't
wanna
work
I
have
two
things
because
they
can
see
people
walking
is
what
stomping.
You
know
it's
crazy.
You
can
see
people
working
at
our
4:00
p.m.
good,
a
bar
of
beer.
O
If
he
signs,
you
know,
and
you
can
see
people
dancing
on
the
street
at
the
4:00
p.m.
it's
crazy
neighborhood,
since
I
used
to
live
over
there
because
well
for
my
job,
because
I
make
a
good
deal
after
my
divorce
and
because
it's
good
for
my
job,
but
if
it's
not
I
wanna
buy
this
Sun
singing
roots
or
far
away.
O
Don't
some
people
living
around
that
because
Santa
I'm
just
trying
to
keep
it
just
because
the
water
rain
and
because
they
can
be
dry
so
at
7:30
when
I
click
in
my
tablet,
then
I'm
going
to
my
customer
I,
don't
have
to
go
step
and
say
you
know
what
my
dog
wet
so
I.
They
have
to
talk
about
you
right
now,
because
I
can
live
with
rain
his
body.
You
know
they
want
to
fire
me
for
that.
So
whatever
you
are
my
job
on
my
dogs
so
I'm
trying
to
keep
both.
A
O
A
O
O
O
O
O
A
A
O
A
O
A
O
I'm
trying
to
do
what
my
friend
I
call.
It
then
engineer
you
call
the
dead
engineer.
Engineer
is
my
god.
This
is
my
guy,
this
right
guy.
Let
me
tell
you,
you
know,
you
know
the
way,
the
work
that
we
live
now.
This
is
my
guy
German
like
in
my
property
mailing.
You
know
the
name,
I,
don't
wanna
say
no
names
he'd
mean
my
property.
He
tell
me
he
loved
Cubans,
so
he
gave
Cuban
cigars
for
free.
Okay,
after
that
he
worked
with
me
around
and
he
tell
me:
oh,
you
got
this
disagreed.
O
O
C
O
C
O
C
O
A
O
You're
gonna
charge
me
a
hundred
bucks
plus
our
fifty
around
four
hours
to
do
the
setback.
Okay,
to
do
my
groin,
what
is
the
name
of
the
property
line?
Limits
survey,
a
survey
Oh
the
Super
Value
say:
isn't
a
good
he's
lying
to
me
because
the
surveyors
to
those
on
fifteen?
So
he
says
to
what
is
still
good.
Okay,
we
said.
A
If
you
don't
mind,
if
you
don't
mind,
you
I
think
you've,
given
us
good,
good
information
tonight,
okay,
so
we
I
think
we
have
unless
we
have
more
questions
and
I
want
to
hear
from
others
if
they
do
but
I.
For
me,
it
was
very
important
to
understand
if
you
understand
well
the
different,
that
a
setback
is
measured
to
the
property
line
and
not
your
fence,
because
you're
showing
us
a
measurement
to
the
fence
and
the.
O
O
A
A
A
O
You
see
that's
from
the
backside
going
that
way:
a
guide
the
company
truck
over
there,
my
another
truck
asleep
over
here,
I'm
Mike
effort.
Of
course
people
sigh.
That's
it
that's
the
area
that
I
keep
my
dogs
okay,
so
they
can.
They
come
play
over
here
and
over.
There
is
like
a
real
concrete
or
whatever
it
is,
so
they
can
pee.
They
can
do
whatever
they
want.
I
can
pick
it
up
after
okay,
my.
O
A
A
C
C
C
C
C
G
We
could
simplify
a
little
bit.
The
survey
says
that
the
house
is
23
feet
from
the
property
line
22.8.
He
says
that
his
porch
is
17
feet
from
the
house,
so
that's
about
six
feet
between
the
edge
of
the
porch
and
the
property
line,
regardless
of
where
the
fence
is
assuming.
The
survey
is
right
and
his
measurements
right
still
foot
short,
but
that's
what
he's
been
saying
all
along
this
is
about
a
foot
short.
The
notice
is
for
three
point:
seven.
G
C
F
A
L
C
E
A
A
What's
what's
been
asked
for,
what's
been
noticed
and
regardless
of
whether
it's
exactly
three
point,
seven
or
two
point
seven:
doesn't
it
didn't
sound
like
it
was
gonna
move
unless
he
had
to
and
also
keep
in
mind
that
he
has
to
get
a
building
permit
through
this
he's
got
to
still
get
a
building
permit
and
the
building
permit
process
will
probably
clarify
whatever
the
discrepancy
is
and
as
long
as
it's
not
more
than
what
he
did
assuming
he
got
approval
as
long
as
it's
not
greater.
He
would
be
okay
if
it
was
less
I.
A
A
C
G
G
So
in
order
to
resolve
this,
we
would
have
to
have
and
go
back,
get
a
survey,
a
pre-existing
conditions
and
come
back
here
in
a
month
or
two
and
pay
a
few
hundred
bucks
and
I.
Don't
know
that,
for
me,
it's
worth
that
effort
to
find
out
that
it's
one
foot
six
into
the
setback,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
sitting.
F
So
I
am
I
guess
in
the
abstract.
Okay,
with
this
request,
but
I'm
having
a
hard
time
figuring
out
how
we
can
sort
of
put
this
within
the
hardship
criteria.
So
you
know
maybe
it
doesn't
enter
the
health,
safety
and
welfare
of
others.
And
you
know
perhaps
it
even
results
in
substantial
justice
being
done,
but
I'm
interested
in
with
the
board
thinks
about.
You
know
how
this
conforms
with
the
other
hardship
criteria
that
we
need
to
look
at.
B
And-
and
that
was
that
was
the
purpose
of
my
question
to
the
applicant,
and
he
did
say
one
thing
that
I
found
in
that
respect:
valuable
was
that
the
existing
concrete
ran
to
that
point
and
I.
It's
not
clear
to
me
when
that
existing
concrete
was
there,
but
I'm
going
to
assume
they
swung
testimony
that
that
existing
concrete
was
there,
and
that
was
the
basis
for
where
I
plan
to
that's
the
case.
E
Well,
not
that
any
evidence
has
been
presented
to
the
to
this
point,
although
the
photograph
with
the
neighborhood
could
be,
it
has
been
every
as
part
of
the
record,
it
would
appear
to
me
just
from
a
thematic
standpoint,
particularly
given
that
two
sides
of
this
house,
one
side,
is
zero
lot
line.
The
other
is
obviously
well
within
a
seven
foot
setback,
which
is
away.
Things
tend
to
operate
these
days.
E
My
gut
feeling
and
from
looking
at
those
pictures,
is
that
a
lot
of
houses
in
the
neighborhood
happier
lot
lines
have
three
foot
for
foot
setbacks
all
over
the
place.
So
you
know
you
couldn't
you
could
at
least
look
at
it
as
if
you
know
this
is
in
harmony.
Keeping
with
the
harmony
of
the
neighborhood
I
mean
that's
kind
of
a
one
of
the
criteria,
so
I'm
surmising
that
maybe
that
fits
I.
C
B
Would
I,
wouldn't
yeah
I
would
recommend
or
request
an
amendment
just
to
address.
First,
the
rear
yard
setback,
which
is
an
existing
condition
based
upon
the
1947
home,
which
I
would
also
point
out,
is
along
an
alleyway,
so
that
kind
of
provides
the
buffer
and
then
the
existing
conditions
of
the
concrete
running
along
the
side.
A
H
D
O
H
Roberta
made
curry
planning,
design
and
development
coordination.
The
address
is
one
six
one,
six
one,
sorry
one
one:
six
one:
six
North
the
Brassica
Avenue
the
code
section
in
review
tonight
is
chapter
27.
Two.
Eighty
nine
point,
three
paragraph
B
paragraph
six.
This
is
a
sign
in
case
the
applicant
is
asking
to
install
a
wall
sign
on
North
elevation
to
increase
the
allowable
signage,
for
footage
from
zeros
square
feet.
To
sixty
six
point.
Eight
two
square
feet
applicant
is
seeking
to
install
a
new
sign
on
the
North
elevation
of
the
existing
structure.
H
The
property
is
zoned,
commercial,
intensive,
see,
I
and
the
Hillsboro
County
property.
Appraiser
information
is
included
in
your
packet,
for
your
reference
right
away
has
found
a
consistent
transportation
has
found
a
consistent
natural
resources
is
found
at
consistent
with
conditions
and
asking
for
the
tree
to
be
pruned
per
their
specifications
are
done
to
the
trees,
be
prude
for
visibility.
Reasons
to
see
the
sign
zoning
has
found
it
inconsistent.
H
H
H
H
H
A
K
Good
evening,
mr.
chairman
aboard
my
name
is
Jill:
we're
from
1
2
0,
1,
0,
Luca
Street
in
Fort
Myers
Florida
here
at
represent
Dollar
Tree
I
would
like
to
start
just
to
recap:
real
quick
I,
don't
want
to
repeat
whether
it's
already
stated,
but
the
existing
site
has
the
Dollar
Tree
sign,
which
is
on
the
side
elevation
face
in
Nebraska.
That
is
the
side
elevation.
The
hardship
that
we're
here
for
tonight
is
the
sign
on
the
north
out.
K
K
K
So
this
is
when,
when
you
pull
an
off
Fowler
and
come
and
do
due
south,
there
was
no
sign
on
the
building
Kitty
and
identified
that
it's
a
Dollar,
Tree
I
interviewed
the
store
manager
and
he
acknowledges
every
day.
Of
course,
if
you're
not
from
the
area,
people
are
coming
in
and
they
they're
having
a
hard
time
finding
it
especially
coming
up
in
the
north
and
if
you're,
not
from
Tampa.
K
H
K
You
were
heading
east
on
Fowler,
I'm,
heading
east,
there's,
two
driveways,
there's
one
here
and
there's
one
here
and
the
view
that
I
just
showed.
You
is
what
you
see
when
you
pull
in
there
now
that
we
do
have
a
free-standing
science,
for
that
is
it's
a
multi-tenant
sign
which
is
here,
but
that
doesn't
help
people
know
for
the
dollar
trees
in
this
building
is
dollar
tree
over.
Here
is
double
tree
over
here,
and
this
is
your
only
sign
that
dignifies
the
wall
sign
from
the
dollar
tree.
So
this
is
our
hardship.
K
I
did
have
another
photo
which
I
was
hoping
to
present
that
showed
that
the
Family
Dollar
did
have
a
sign
on
this
elevation.
I
want
to
show
you
that
picture,
but
you
did
you
say:
okay,
all
right
so
and
a
sign
that
we
would
ask
for
being
me
a
little
smaller
than
that
one.
So
we're
not
asking
to
go
over
square
footage
and
in
fact
the
sign
that
we
have
existing
now
on
the
side
is
under
the
square
footage.
So
we're
simply
asking
the
board.
A
C
K
A
K
B
K
C
H
A
A
K
A
K
G
Its
view
to
the
building
are
only
allowed
to
have
the
signage
on
the
Eastern
Road,
which
is
Nebraska,
although
two
of
their
four
entries
is
from
the
North
off
the
Fowler
and
their
only
representation
is
a
small
multi
minute.
Multi-Tenant
sign
that
does
not
identify
which
building
is
theirs.
So
the
practical
difficulty
is
the
inability
for
patrons
to
find
the
building
once
they
enter
the
property.
If
they
even
know
that
it's
there.
A
H
The
code
section
in
review
tonight
is
27
156.
The
applicant
is
seeking
to
reduce
the
side
yard
setback
from
7
feet
to
4.3
feet.
Applicant
is
seeking
a
variance
to
construct
addition
to
existing
primary
structure
properties.
Zoned
RS,
6,
Hillsborough,
County
property
appraiser
information
is
included
in
your
packet.
H
A
G
A
D
We
just
because
it's
in
violation
occurrence
setbacks
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
it's
in
violation
of
the
code,
if
it's
a
if
it's
legal,
non-conforming
structure,
then
they're
not
required
to
get
a
variance
to
vest
it.
They
can
keep
it
under
the
non-conforming
provisions
and
for
the
life
of
the
structure.
Whenever
the
structures
old
it
comes
down
and
then
whatever
is
built
thereafter,
that
would
would
need
to
conform
the
fact
that
they
didn't
notice
for
it
and
they
didn't
request.
E
B
D
I'm
not
sure
I
understand
but
I.
That
I
think
that
if
you're
saying
that
that
the
7
to
4.3
pretty
much
covers
the
rest
of
the
part-
and
maybe
there
isn't
an
issue
so
maybe
maybe
we
should
just
allow
the
presentation
to
correct
as
it
continues
so
that
we
can
kind
of
flesh
out
these
questions
through
the
testimony.
Well,
I
mean,
except.
A
D
D
D
A
A
J
I'm
on
behalf
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
Cheryl
Williams,
she
contracted
me
to
do
an
addition
for
the
home
and
through
the
process
we
found
out
that
we
could
not
do
that
because
it
was.
We
had
a
variance
issue.
The
question
that
you
guys
had
was
it
was
an
older
existing
home.
So
that's
why
it's
not
within
the
current
variance.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
attach
a
bathroom
in
the
back
corner
of
the
house.
J
There's
a
bedroom
back
there
and
it
does
not
have
access
to
a
bathroom.
That's
the
hardship
aspect
that
were
that
we're
going
after
is
that
there
is
no
bathroom
back
there
for
the
person
that
is
in
the
rear
bedroom.
So
what
we
were
trying
to
do
is
just
square
off
the
house
in
the
rear.
This
would
not
affect
the
curb
appeal
of
the
of
the
front
of
the
home
as
it
is
in
the
in
the
rear
right
of
the
structure.
J
A
Have
a
full
ten
minutes
to
give
us
any
evidence,
photographs
anything
that
you
think
we'll
help
us
make
a
decision.
We
will
ask
questions,
but
you
have
your
ten
minutes.
That's
it
was
pretty
cut
and
dry
for
me
online.
Sorry,
okay!
So
this
concludes
your
presentation.
Yes,
sir,
all
right
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
that
would
like
to
speak
either
for
or
against
this
application.
J
That's
I
mean
that's
pretty
standard
in
that
in
that
area.
The
the
main
thing
is
that
she
wanted
to
have
her
daughter
have
a
bathroom,
so
it's
completely
enclosed
and
a
closet
area,
and
she
also
thought
that,
for
a
future
hardship
of
other
people
that
are
just
disabled
or
elderly,
they're
able
to
have
a
bathroom
in
the
same
area
as
the
bedroom.
So
her
main
issue
is
further
down
the
line
if
they
might
need
to
use
that
bathroom
in
that
bedroom.
J
A
G
G
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
Section,
27
80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
practical
difficulty
is,
they
would
like
to
add
on
to
an
existing
home
that
has
this
encroachment
and
they're
trying
to
match
the
existing
lines
of
the
house.
And
if
this
house
was
built
in
conformance,
then
reasonably
this
addition
would
be
as
well.
So
it's
a
product
of
the
existing.
A
B
Gonna
second,
it
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
for
discussion
purposes,
because
there
is
that
issue
of
the
other
side
set
back,
and
it
seems
to
me
very
obvious
where
the
construction
is
going
based
upon
the
site
plan.
But
perhaps
we
should
just
say
the
east
side
yard
setback.
Just
to
be
clear
on
that
that
amendment
yeah,
okay.
A
H
H
Marie
planning,
design
and
development
coordination,
the
address
is
1/5
1/3
east
anona
avenue
code
section
in
review
tonight
is
27
156.
The
applicant
is
seeking
to
reduce
the
front
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
10
feet.
Applicant
is
seeking
to
vest
existing
conditions
of
primary
structure
due
to
the
lot
split
and
conditions
set
forth
per
formal
decision.
Fdn
1987,
the
formal
decision
was
included
in
your
packet
for
review
and
the
conditions
were
outlined.
The
variance
is
a
part
of
the
condition
the
property
is
owned.
H
H
A
H
H
A
F
A
D
N
A
H
H
H
The
sign
over
the
main
entrance
to
be
at
20
square
feet,
sign
facing
neptune
36.5
square
feet
and
sign
facing
dale
mabry
at
36
point
five
square
feet:
applicants
seeking
the
variance
to
allow
additional
signage
for
the
new
tenant
and
replace
signage
from
the
tenant
that
was
previously
there.
The
property
is
in
cg,
commercial,
general
for
county
property.
Information
is
included
in
your
packet
for
reference
right
away,
found
that
consistent
zoning
found
at
inconsistent.
H
H
H
H
H
H
This
is
looking
down
south
del
Mabry
here
along
the
front
facade
of
the
building
corner
of
Neptune
and
dome
a
breeze
again.
The
other
piece
of
signage
will
be
located
up
here
and
the
tenant
space
is
from
here
to
here.
No
signage
is
proposed
here
again
in
front
of
the
front
of
the
building
facing
dumb
Avery,
and
this
is
the
side
facing
that
parking
lot
and
again
that
other
piece
of
signage
is
proposed
here
up
on
this
piece.
H
H
It
back
I
do
have
an
objection
letter
that
came
in
like
an
hour
before
I
got
here
so
I'd
like
to
enter
that
into
the
record
and
I
have
copies
for
you.
H
A
H
A
And
then
one
of
the
other
two
locations
would
be
the
additional
ask
the
one
of
the
other
Toula.
Well,
no,
actually,
the
location
on
Dale
Mabry
is
allowed
the
location
facing
south,
because
it's
not
on
a
right-of-way
is
the
is
the
additional
ask,
so
those
two
locations
I've
just
wanted
to
be
sure.
The
board
understands.
H
H
A
L
L
That's
open
during
the
daytime,
they're
actually
open
from
four
o'clock
in
the
afternoon
to
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning,
they're
open
at
nighttime,
and
that's
what
they're
trying
to
do
with
the
signage
they're,
trying
to
make
it
visible
for
anybody
who's
having
an
emergency
to
easily
locate
the
facility
without
having
to
drive
throughout
the
whole
market.
I
have
some
photos
that
aren't
our
record
that
I'll
provide
after
I
could
present
them.
L
With
these
locations
on
the
towers,
their
main
focus
is
to
get
visibility
to
the
public.
This
is
where
the
sign
is
proposed
to
be.
I
also
want
to
say
that
previously
there
was
a
sign
there
for
the
previous
tenants
before
back
in
2005,
or
so
it
was
a
mercantile
bank
when
they
sold
and
became
TD
Bank
TD
Bank
received
various
to
put
their
sign
up
there
as
well.
L
Unit
there
on
that
building
has
their
main
entrance
on
that
side
of
the
building.
So
it's
nothing
hot!
It's
nothing
unusual!
They
just
want
to
keep
you
in
a
for
MIDI.
So
that's
why
they're
gonna
make
that
their
main
entrance
as
well
to
create
just
an
easier
way
of
getting
in
and
if
you
notice,
their
main
interest
is
facing
a
wall
which
is
another
reason
why
they
want
the
two
tower
signs
just
so
that
it's
easily
found.
L
L
There's
one
right
here
and
then
there's
one
that's
kind
of
hidden
over
here
and
that's
where
we
want
our
signs
up
to
go
these
drawings
that
she
showed
we're
already
full
scale
drawings.
So
that's
what
they're
actually
going
to
look
like
if
approved
and
done
we're
not
going
for
size
here,
we're
just
going
for
visibility.
L
A
A
M
A
H
C
M
M
M
M
If
we
look
at
those
alleged
hard
strips
are
not
suffered
in
common
with
other
properties,
and
it
says
other
properties,
structures
of
buildings.
Similarly
located.
Second
hardship
from
an
address
does
not
result
from
the
act
of
the
applicant.
This
is
a
self
created
hardship
by
commercial
entity.
The
variance
of
grant
is
not
substantial,
engineer,
injured,
injure
the
health,
safety
or
welfare
of
others,
whose
property
would
be
affected
by
allowing
some
property
holder
about
five
hundred
seven
hundred
feet.
It
impacts
me.
The
light
from
this
sign
be
visible
from
my
property.
M
My
property
will
suffer
light
pollution.
The
variances
in
harmony
with
search
general
intent,
purpose,
will
chapter
and
adopted
can't
the
comprehensive
plan
I
contend
that
it
does
not
meet
that
criteria.
The
last
one
of
the
result
in
substantial
justice
being
done
and
I
suggest
that
this
would
you
grant
this
variances
would
result
in
a
substantial.
F
M
F
M
Looking
at
what
they've
replied
to
for
every
single
one
of
the
five
things
up
there,
they
talked
about
based
on
the
current
code.
They're
allowed
one
side
and
we
don't
object
to
that
sign.
We
object
to
the
two
other
signs
amount
to
66%,
more
square
footage.
Veterinary
emergency
group
is
a
business.
It's
not
a
building.
It's
a
loud
one
sign
not
allowed
multiple
signs,
I've
been
living
at
that
property
for
20
years
and
suffering
really
Authority.
M
Visionary
properties,
the
sign
facing
they
state.
They
need
a
sign
for
to
allow
emergency
people,
but
I
contend.
These
signs
have
created
danger
on
Del
Mabry,
where
cars
and
tanker
trucks
are
traveling
at
50
miles.
An
hour
sign
facing
east
to
Neptune
is
not
visible
by
anybody,
except
someone
parked
at
Neptune
without
creating
a
safety
hazard.
The
fact
I'm
facing
to
the
south
is
only
visible
to
the
people
going
south.
These
signs
are
a
commercial,
come
hither,
they're,
not
about
emergencies.
M
The
time
era
real
estate,
TD
Bank
signs
had
variances
those
have
bear
no
bearing
on
whether
we
grant
a
variance
today
on
these
things,
both
of
the
Cynar
compose
that
are
in
proportion
to
other
signs
located
on
building.
That's
not
true,
that's
patently
false
or
dramatically
larger
than
any
of
the
additional
signs.
This
particular
part
of
their
application.
They
show
the
sign
up
there
as
a
white
sign.
That's
the
backlit
light
sign,
but
the
properties
shown
with
a
color
time
doesn't
include
the
light.
This
is
what
it
looks
like
there
again.
M
I'll
show
you
that
this
is
the
deceptive
application.
This
is
what
it's
going
to
look
like
at
night
now
put
that
sign
up
there.
It's
dangerous,
neighborhood
and
I've
walked
there.
Every
night
looks
like
that.
There's
where
the
sign
you
can
see
the
light
post
from
this
from
the
traffic
signal.
Someone
was
driving
north
on
Dale
Mabry
and
looked
at
that
sign
there.
They
would
be
dramatically
dangerous.
Oh
it's
almost
involved.
It
almost
killed
that
that
interest
people
not
paying
attention.
Mr.
M
M
Adjacent
building
doesn't
get
assigned,
that's
what
it
looks
like
at
Jason
Villa
at
night.
That's
the
Wells
Fargo
across
the
street.
They
all
comply.
That
sign
is
nothing,
looks
nothing
like
that.
It's
as
big
as
that
square
up
there,
that's
the
type
of
sign
that
would
be
near
near
these
guys
are
out
of
town.
They
don't
care
what
South
Tampa
looks
like
they
got
12
properties
in
Manhattan,
one
there,
one
in
North
Tampa.
This.
M
A
B
B
L
B
G
B
B
So,
okay,
so
you
don't
have
one
on
on
the
Neptune
side
of
the
building.
It's
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
so
people
facing
north
would
see
this
sign.
Yes,
okay
and
yeah,
and
and
I
I
certainly
understand
the
sign
over
your
main
entrance.
You
know
that's
a
small
sign
when
people
follow
I
get
it.
L
The
client
bought
the
facility,
they
thought
about
the
sign
package
as
well.
They
actually
hired
signs
Inc,
that's
based
out
of
New
York,
and
then
we
were
contracted.
We
are
a
local
company
here
and
we
work
all
throughout
of
Florida.
We
have
a
state
license
and
pretty
much
they
wanted.
They
bought
that
unit
in
the
heart
of
the
neighborhood,
where
all
these
other
businesses
were
in
order
to
have
the
same
signage,
that
TD
Bank
and
mercantile
big
head.
B
B
That's
not
a
basis
for
what
I'm
asking
I'm
just
asking
you
to
explain
why?
Why
an
additional?
What's
the
hardship
for
us
granting
you
an
additional
sign
again,
I,
don't
have
I,
don't
have
any
objection
to
assign
a
second
selling
over
the
main
entrance
and
you're
entitled
by
right
to
a
sign
on
Dale
Mabry.
So
what
is
the?
What
is
the
basis
of
hardship
for
an
additional
sign
on
Southside,
so.
L
The
hardship
here
I
mean
I
actually
want
to
correct
you.
There
I'm,
sorry,
I,
don't
know
the
code
allows
us
to
have
one
sign
over
the
main
entrance,
but
this
main
insurance
is
different.
It's
not
facing
the
right
of
way.
We
are
not
allowed
to
have
the
sign
on
Neptune
and
on
the
corner
of
Neptune
and
down
Mabry,
because
that's
not
part
of
the
unit.
You
can
only
have
a
sign
on
the
part
of
your
building,
so
that's
sort
of.
B
F
L
This
is
the
main
entry,
so
these
are
the
two
signs
right
here
that
we
wouldn't
be
allowed.
Oh
I
see
worries
okay,
we
would
have
this
one
because,
when
it's
at
the
main
entrance
in
on
our
unit-
but
this
sign
is
not
part
of
our
unit-
there's
actually
other
businesses
here,
and
this
is
our
main
entrance.
Where
and
just
like
all
these
other
places,
their
main
interest
is
in
the
front
we're
trying
to
keep
that
form,
but.
B
L
B
Have
but
it's
up
you're
entitled
to
have
a
sign
on
the
street,
that's
part
of
you,
so
you
could
have
one
sign
there
now
you'd
have
to
have.
You
would
still
have
to
have
a
variance
to
get
the
second
sign
over
your
main
entrance.
Yes,
but
again,
I'm
that
I
don't
really
have
an
issue
with
that
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
basis
is
for
having
two
additional
signs.
A
L
L
L
F
L
A
You
know
what
no
other
business
has
a
sign
on
that
of
that
tower
on
the
north
side.
Is
it
about
the
same,
but
so
again
we're
not
supposed
to
design
your
project,
but
we
have
some
opposition
that
we
have
to
listen
to
and
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
What's
driving
that
location
as
opposed
to
and
you've
already
testified,
you
could
move
it
to
the
other
to
the
South
corner
on
dale
mabry,
which
is
actually
more,
is
closer
to
you.
Your
unit,
your
space,
your
you're
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
so.
A
No,
no,
no
I'm,
saying
that
if
you,
if
you
were
telling
us,
you
had
to
have
a
sign
on
Dale
Mabry,
you
also
testified
the
truth
allowed
to
have
signage
near
or
on
your
unit
you're
part
of
the
space
which
is
the
south
end
of
the
building.
Yes,
why
is
it
on
the
north
end
facing
dale
mabry
they're,
trying.
L
A
A
A
L
A
E
E
What
you
have
here
is
perhaps
a
way
to
accommodate
opposition,
in
the
sense
that
you
know
according
to
the
map
and
where
this
is
the
side
directly
opposite
that
north
side
of
the
building
is
a
parking.
Lot
is
commercial
property,
whereas
the
sign
is
you
have
it
in
the
in
the
photograph
is
facing
towards
Wells
Fargo
Bank,
which
just
beyond
that
is
residential,
so
saying
we
can
move
it
away
from
facing
resident
potential
residential
to
facing
more
commercial,
and
maybe
that
kind
of
you
know
helps
things
along.
Yes,.
L
L
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
these
signs
there
are
ul
approved.
Ul
is
a
company
that
comes
in,
we
manufacture
our
own
signs,
they
come
in
and
they
make
sure
that
you're
in
compliance
with
what
you're,
using
for
electrical
breezes,
all
your
bulbs
and
stuff
like
that
they're
not
hazardous,
if
not
anything
and
they're
all
low
voltage.
That's
what
we
pride
ourselves
in.
We
don't
do
anything
neon.
We
do
everything
LED.
L
B
All
right,
let
me
let
me
actually
ask
mr.
Smith
mr.
Smith
would
some
of
the
adjustments
that
we're
talking
about
served
as
more
acceptable
accommodations
to
you.
I'm
just
curious
to
get
your
opinion
on
that
I.
Don't
need
a
big
approach
to
the
whole
picture,
but
I
do
I
mean
I
am
interested
to
see
whether
that
would
be
a
more
acceptable
accommodation.
So.
M
I
believe
you've,
misunderstood
I
believe
that
the
code
allows
them
to
have
one
sign
for
their
unit,
not
one
sign
facing
the
street
on
our
on
Dale
Mabry,
so
I
believe
they
technically
can
only
have
one
sign.
Yes,
so
they
can't
have
a
sign
that
faces
West
and
have
any
other
sign
on
the
property
without
a
barrier.
That's
correct,
okay,
so.
A
M
M
B
M
B
M
Would
not,
per
se
accept
it?
I
saw
what
they
did
very
the
very
basis
that
they
present
a
sign
on
this.
That
shows
them
this
property
of
orange
letters
without
the
white
background,
and
they
clearly
have
CAD
capabilities
can
drop
this
on
right
on
there.
The
same
way,
I
did
shows
me
that
they
really
don't
want
to
expose
the
very
bright
light
white
bright
sign
which,
in
the
series
of
photographs
I
gave
to
you,
guys,
show
what
it
looks
like
at
night.
It's
really
it's
quite
garish
and
ugly.
G
M
Frankly
or
to
me
look
inexpensive,
the
Palmero
sign
looks
like
it
has
a
little
class,
but
it
looks
like
the
liquor
store
signs
down
the
street
and
because
they're
removable
letters
on
a
channel
that
sign
is
going
to
be
there
forever.
That'll
never
be
another
variance
request.
I'll
change
the
letters
so
that
that
sign
is
an
eyesore
in
our
neighborhood
and
everybody
else
looks
at
Dale.
Mabry
is
a
great
commercial
thing
then,
but
I
live
there.
I
honestly
walk
to
that
Publix
right.
There
I
go
past
to
this
place
every
night
on.
A
My
bison
exactly
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you,
mr.
Smith,
can
you
clarify
that
that
they
could
they
could
have
two
signs
if
both
sides
faced
with
public
right
of
ways
up
to
some
amount
of
square
footage,
which
I
think
is
the
555
seventy-three
square
feet
and
and
if
I
do
the
math,
the
smallest
of
the
science,
isn't
facing
a
right
away,
it
would
be
facing
the
parking
lot.
That's
the
entrance
sign
that
they're
saying
is
20
square
feet
and
if
they
just
added
that
to
the
Neptune
sign.
A
A
H
Again,
we're
looking
at
this
paragraph
for
building
science
in
the
signage
code,
and
we
go
down
here
and
it
talks
about
how
many
signs
are
allowed
for
multiple
tenant.
One
sign,
1
billion
sign
shall
be
permitted
for
each
establishment
with
a
main
door
entrance
which
faces
a
public
street
in
a
multi-tenant
parcel
establishment.
H
Establishments
located
on
the
corner
can
have
an
additional
sign.
This
sign
is
not
located
on
a
corner
of
two
public
right
of
ways
if
he
was
located.
If
his
suite
was
here,
then
he
could
have
a
sign
on
Neptune
and
he
could
have
a
sign
on
Dale
Mabry
he's
located
here,
which
only
allows
him
by
code
a
sign
here,
and
we
take
the
square
footage
calculation
by
taking
the
width
of
the
tenant
frontage
and
multiplying
it
by
one
point:
two:
five
which
talks
about
the
size
in
this
paragraph:
okay,.
A
H
H
A
H
A
L
B
A
L
L
So
you
guys
are
pretty
much
well
aware.
You
guys
ask
the
perfect
questions
as
to
what
the
signs
are
and
what
are
we
actually
requesting?
I
just
want
to
point
out
a
few
things
from
his
slide.
Powerpoint,
our
sign
would
look
pretty
much
just
like
the
Pearl
mo
we,
our
company,
has
been
in
business
for
a
really
long
time,
they're
self-made
they
do
other
signs,
they
do
all
the
permitting
they
do
it
all
they
go
through
compliance
with
everything
across
the
board.
L
Our
science
will
actually
look
like.
We
do
all
the
IHOP's.
We
do
some
of
the
Wells
Fargo's.
Just
like
the
Palermo
sign.
It's
not
gonna
stand
out
any
much
more
different.
It's
not
gonna,
be
a
really
obnoxious
sign.
It's
not
gonna,
be
seen
from
a
huge
distance
I'm,
not
sure
how
far
away
he
lives,
but
it's
nothing
obnoxious.
If
we
weren't
you
well
certified,
then
I
can
see
the
point
you
could
make
that
argument.
But
we
are
you
all
certified
with
every
engineering
drawing
that
we
do.
L
L
Those
are
both
our
our
testing
labels,
low-voltage
electronic
transformer
that
keeps
the
lights
dim.
It's
not
gonna
keep
them
obnoxiously
loud.
The
lights
are
also
on
a
timer.
They
shut
off
at
a
certain
time.
They're
not
gonna,
be
on
all
the
time
they
won't
be
on
that
night,
though,
that's
all
I
have
for
you
guys.
D
A
G
I'm
personally
I'm
fine
with
all
three
of
the
signs,
its
Dale
Mabry.
It's
a
huge
commercial
thoroughfare,
I
live
right
off
and
don't
make
every
in
the
same
kind
of
environment.
So,
but
if
it's
the
flavour
of
the
board,
I
would
be
okay
with
excluding
the
northerly
sign
and
improving
the
the
one
on
the
back
side
of
the
building
in
the
south
side,
which
gets
all
the
exposure
of
northbound
traffic
patrons
find
the
building
when
they're
in
the
parking
lot,
but
at
the
same
time,
I
think
I'm.
Okay,
with
all.
G
E
B
E
B
Personally,
okay
with
three
signs,
because
I
didn't
hear
justification
for
three
signs,
but
I
am
okay,
as
I
pointed
out
with
two
now,
the
south-facing
sign
doesn't
make
much
sense.
If
you're
not
going
to
have
the
sign
on
the
northerly
part
of
the
building
facing
dale
mabry.
I
would
suspect
that
the
applicator.
G
G
F
C
C
A
Yeah
I,
obviously
don't
have
a
problem
with
the
entrance
sign
on
the
parking
lot
side
and
I
think
that
that
could
should
be
bifurcated,
I'm
kind
of
mixed
on
signs
on
Dale
Mabry.
There
are
so
many
sites,
I'm
doing
Mabry,
odd
I,
don't
know
how
effective
they
are.
That's
why
you
have
multi-tenant
signs
out
on
the
road.
A
There's
no
question
in
my
mind
that
assuming
it's
not
blocked
by
tree
canopy,
if
you
were
driving
south
on
Dale
Mabry
and
looking
north
facing
side,
that
would
be
a
whole
lot
easier
to
see.
It's
a
driver
then
trying
to
get
closer
to
the
corner
and
then
see
a
sign
on
the
side
of
the
building.
At
my
time
you
see
that
you're
through
the
intersection.
So
you
really,
although
there
is
another
entrance
just
on
the
south
side
of
the
building,
so
they
could
work
southbound
traffic.
A
You
could
benefit
by
a
sign
on
Avery,
so
I'm,
a
hundred
percent
sure
how
this
would
work.
But
if,
if
the
board,
for
instance,
approved
the
parking
lot
entrance
sign
as
a
variance
because
it
doesn't
face
it
right
away
and
didn't
approve
anything
else,
my
assumption
would
be
they'd
have
the
right
to
still
put
a
sign
on
Dale
neighbor,
if
it's
under
this,
if
it
meets
the
Mack
square
footage.
So
if
we're
approving
site
twenty
square
feet
on
the
parking
lot,
there's
25
or
35
square
feet.
A
G
D
A
H
A
H
H
A
F
A
A
A
A
G
L
A
A
C
C
A
C
B
B
B
D
So
if
you,
if
you
look
at
the
three
requests,
there's
that
there's
two
additional
wall
signs
for
a
total
three
on
site
is
the
first
request.
The
second
request
is
to
increase
the
overall
square
footage
allowance
from
fifty
five
to
fifty
five
point.
Seventy
three
293
spread
out
over
three
signs.
That's
that's
really
what's
at
issue
here,
because
what
the
board
is
suggesting
is
that
you
would
reduce
that
increase
from
fifty
five
275
and
spread
it
over
two
signs,
as
opposed
to
three
which
wasn't
notice.
B
B
D
H
C
C
G
Be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan,
presented
the
public
hearing
for
a
sign
at
location,
a
on
the
rear
of
the
building
opposite
dale
mabry
at
twenty
square
feet
based
on
the
applicant
presenting
confident,
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
of
this
public
hearing
of
a
necessary
hardship.
The
practical
difficulty
when
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27a
t
of
the
city
code.
B
C
D
Would
just
if
we
could
clarify
that
you
and
I
know
you
said
an
additional
twenty
square
feet
to
what
is
allowed,
but
under
the
request,
is
to
clarify
that
the
allowance
is
fifty
five
point:
seventy
three
and
that
the
increase,
the
variance,
would
increase
the
total
square
footage
for
an
allowance
to
seventy
five
point.
Seventy
three
that
would
be
spread
out
over
two
sides
is
that.