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A
All
right
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
attendees
and
participants,
and
welcome
to
the
may
10th
meeting
of
the
city
variants
city
of
tampa
variance
review
board
to
introduce
the
vrb
members
from
my
left.
The
members
of
the
board
are.
A
Brett
feldman
and
aaron
murphy,
also
in
attendance.
This
evening
we
have
from
legal
susan
johnson
velez
from
development
coordination,
jane
madue,
from
natural
resources.
There
is
in
the
back
steven
eister
and
from
transportation,
jonathan
scott.
A
There
are
some
procedural
rules
we
need
to
follow
this
evening
when
your
case
number
and
petitioner's
name
is
called.
Please
approach
the
podium
when
you
approach
the
podium,
please
state
your
name,
your
address
and
if
you
have
been
sworn
in,
the
petitioner
and
or
their
agent
will
have
10
minutes
to
make
a
presentation.
A
The
time
periods,
as
stated,
will
be
kept
by
the
board.
Any
information,
such
as
pictures
of
plans
that
have
not
been
previously
submitted
as
part
of
your
petition
and
you
intend
to
present
at
this
hearing
for
consideration
in
support
of
your
petition,
must
be
individually
presented
and
accepted
by
the
board.
After
acceptance
by
the
board,
you
must
submit
the
item
to
staff
for
it
to
be
entered
and
made
part
of
the
permanent
record.
A
A
Our
rules
allow
that
anyone
who
wishes
to
have
a
continuance
to
when
there
are
more
than
four
members
you
can
do
so
and
that
continuance
will
be
automatically
granted.
However,
that
request
needs
to
be
made
before
you
make
your
presentation
before
your
case
is
presented.
A
So
if
anyone
would
like
to
have
a
continuance
to
when
there
are
more
than
four
members
on
the
board,
please
approach
city
staff.
Let
them
know
we'll
get
that
request
made
and
we'll
get
you
continued
to
another
night
when
we
have
more
than
four
members,
but
for
now
we
only
have
the
four
you
will
need
a
majority,
which
means
you
need
three
of
the
four
members
to
approve
your
petition
this
evening.
A
A
variance
granted
by
the
board
will
be
only
for
what
is
shown
on
the
site
plan
and
will
be
in
compliance
with
any
terms
and
conditions
stated
in
the
approval
by
the
board.
All
their
city
codes
will
need
to
be
met
if
the
case
is
approved,
your
variance
will
expire
two
years
from
the
date
of
the
decision.
If
the
case
is
continued,
it
will
be
continued
to
either
next
month's
vrb
board
agenda
or
the
next
available
position
on
the
upcoming
vrb
board
agenda.
A
If
the
case
is
denied,
you
may
wish
to
have
the
variance
review
board's
decision
appealed
by
the
city
council
to
do
so.
You
must
file
a
petition
for
review
of
the
board's
decision
within
14
days
of
the
written
decision.
You
will
not
be
able
to
pull
any
permits
until
after
the
14
days.
Review
period
has
passed
your
cooperation.
Ensuring
that
this
meeting
runs
smoothly
is
greatly
appreciated.
A
A
One
second,
all
right,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
all
right.
The
meeting
minutes
are
approved.
Thank
you
at
this
time
I'll
ask
legal
staff
to
confirm
whether
there
are
any
ex
parte
communications
or
conflicts.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair
susan
johnsonville,
as
legal
department
board
members
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
ask
if
any
of
you
have
had
any
written
or
verbal
contact
with
anyone
regarding
any
matter
on
the
agenda
this
evening
hearing
none
I
like
to
ask
if
you
have
had,
if
you
you
have
any
conflict
of
interest
with
respect
to
any
matter
on
the
agenda
this
evening,
for
the
record,
none
have
so
indicated.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
A
Thank
you
so
much
all
right
staff.
Do
we
have
any
changes
to
the
agenda
that
you
would
like
to
just
this
evening?
Ms
madhu?
No
okay,
then,
at
this
time
I
would
like
a
staff
member
to
conduct
the
swearing-in
folks
if
there
is
a
chance,
even
small
chance
that
you
might
speak
tonight,
that
you
might
present
some
evidence
that
you
might
want
to
stand
up
and
say
I
oppose
this
or
I
support
this
or
here's
a
bit
of
information.
A
E
A
G
All
right
I'll
go
slow
since
you've
not
had
time
to
review
this,
but
I
mean
it's
an
old
case,
so
some
of
the
particulars
of
the
case
may
be
familiar
to
you.
G
Block
that
you
see
right
there,
this
this
property
went
through
a
formal
decision
and
that
was
to
determine
the
legal
non-conforming
status
of
the
site.
This
is
a
site
that
is
smaller
than
your
typical
lot
size
for
the
rm12,
and
so
they
went
through
of
fdm,
which
was
approved
as
a
legal
non-conforming
lot.
G
This
was
reviewed
by
right-of-way
transportation
and
natural
resources
right.
We
had
no
comments.
Natural
resources
had
comments,
however.
The
applicant
has
since
met
the
requirements
for
natural
resources
and
transportation,
had
no
objections
as
well
only
that
they
showed
the
flare
which
is
not
shown
on
the
site
plan
as
provided.
G
G
These
are
pictures
that
the
applicant
has
provided
showing
the
subject
site,
and
that
is
the
adjoining
property:
the
property
next
door.
As
you
sent
to
the
subject
site.
G
G
A
G
F
F
A
Thank
you,
sir
okay.
Is
the
applicant
here
come
on
up
state
your
name,
your
address
and
confirm
that
you've
been
sworn
and
then
you'll
have
10
minutes
to
make
your
presentation
please.
H
H
All
right,
I
guess
the
overhead
projector
is
the
best
method.
Do
we
you.
A
Can
use
the
overhead
or
there's
a
computer
if
you
have
electronic
data.
H
Okay,
that's
pretty
good
yeah.
A
little
of
this
is
redundant.
You've
already
presented
kind
of
the
context
that
we're
talking
about
here
on
oregon
and
horatio
corner
of
oregon
and
horatio
highlighted
the
subject
there.
I've
also
taken
this
view.
H
F
H
Present
forward
that
this
is
in
a
unique
neighborhood,
it's
got
a
lot
of
different
architecture.
It's
got
some
historic
content,
that's
very
important
to
us
all,
but
we
also
see
some
densities
and
that's
important.
Now
too,
in
campus,
it's
a
growing
close
to
hyde
park,
village
right
close
to
the
salmon
expressway,
and
I
think
it's
a
fun
project.
It
could
be
a
little
bit
controversial
because
it's
contemporary,
it's
modern,
and
that
is
a
subject
of
concern
for
some
people.
But
then
again
it's
what's
great
about
life.
Sometimes
it's
diverse.
H
You
know
I
have
a
similar
site
plan
there.
There
I've
highlighted
the
location
again
horatio
in
oregon
I'll
point
out
too.
Here
I
guess
I
can
use
my
finger
as
a
pointer.
This
rack
of
plating
here,
of
course,
is
townhouses
attached.
Town
houses,
they're
three
storeys
tall.
This
structure
is
four
and
five
stories
tall.
H
The
rest
of
the
block
that
we're
talking
about
has
some
older
structures.
One
thing
that's
interesting
and
we'll
go
in
a
little
deeper
is
the
accessory
structures
that
are
common
along
this
joined
alleyway.
Those
accessory
structures
are
pushed
close
to
the
the
alleyway,
sometimes
as
little
as
six
foot
off
the
back
set
back.
There
that's
quite
acceptable
for
a
neighborhood
like
this.
It's
interesting
they're
two
stories
high
too.
H
We'll
move
on
to
a
little
closer
view
of
our
site,
as
as
I
was
mentioning,
you
can
see
the
more
intense
buildings
just
to
the
west.
You
can
see
these
attached
or
these
detached
accessory
structures
along
alleyway.
H
H
This
particular
house
was,
I
suppose,
given
a
variance
in
that
their
backyard
is
very
close
to
the
back
property
line.
They're,
not
not
using
standard
variant,
they're
standard
requirements
there
for
house-
and
this
one
too,
is
very
close.
H
This
again
is
our
site
plan,
which
we've
seen,
and
you
know
when
it
was
brought
up
by
transportation,
that
we
may
have
a
little
bit
of
a
problem
with
our
parking.
We
were
able
to
push
the
parking
area
back
a
little
bit
push
it
just
back
a
little
bit
right.
H
Sidewalk,
so
the
entire
city
of
tampa
right
away,
which
comes
up
to
the
property
line,
is
just
green
space
right
now
on
the
parking
you
know,
we
were
posed
with
probably
three
different
options
here.
One
would
be
to
do
what
we
see
all
along
oregon
avenue
as
we
go
north
people
park
right
in
what
would
be
the
front
yard
this
house
is
addressed
to
oregon,
so
that's
the
front
of
the
property,
so
the
vehicles
in
essence
would
have
been
on
a
pad
and
taking
up
the
whole
front
yard.
H
Another
alternative
would
have
been
to
petition
for
a
detached
accessory
structure
at
the
rear.
Those
setbacks
can
be
as
little
as
three
feet
if
there's
no
eve
overhang
so
that
could
have
pushed
us
very
close
to
what
would
be
our
backyard,
but
it's
sort
of
a
side
yard
also.
H
We
opted
for
reducing
the
square
footage
on
the
ground
plane
and
using
this
carport
system
to
park
the
vehicles
properly.
This
gives
us
a
front
yard
that
we
can
landscape
and
can
be
very
pleasing
for
the
streetscape,
and
then
we
we
go
up
from
there.
We
go
two
more
levels
up
from
there
to
provide.
What's.
J
H
Somewhat
average
home
today,
2500
square
feet,
2600
square
feet
would
be
our
intentions,
but
it
did
require
three
levels:
it's
a
contemporary
design,
so
there
are
no
roof
pitches.
There
are
flat
roofs
and
then
there's
the
possibility
that
we
may
require
a
service
elevator
which
could
possibly
push
the
penthouse
slightly
above
the
35
foot.
Mark
that
I
understand
can
be
acceptable.
H
H
Right
here
this
is
a
nice
nice
structure.
There
I've
taken
a
walk
to
the
west
on
these
views.
We
can
see
the
scale
of
the
building,
that's
right
across
the
street.
It's
actually
five
stories
up
on
the
upper
levels.
It's
got
a
large
vehicle
entrance
here
and
then,
of
course,
a
little
further
down
the
street
is
the
famous
bread
factory.
I
remember
that
many
years
ago
smelling
that
bread
wafting
through
the
neighborhood.
It
was
wonderful.
It
was
wonderful.
H
This
is
the
adjoining
neighbor
right
to
the
east.
This
is
an
alley
active
alley
and
then
the
property-
that's
just
the
next
lot
to
the
east
and
again
these
are
very
short
lots.
I
also
included
a
view
of
that
same
alley
from
the
north
of
the
block.
Looking
south
and
again,
we
can
see
all
the
accessories
structures.
H
Here's
a
little
context
going
north,
an
oregon
there.
This
is
the
multi-family
very
nice
structure,
very
short,
set
packs.
This
is
our
block.
This
is
within
our
block
and
again,
this
picture
here
kind
of
indicates
the
sort
of
dilemma
we
were
confronted
with.
We
can
park
the
vehicles
directly
in
front
on
a
very
narrow
lot.
H
So
the
much
part
to
talk
about
some
of
the
architecture.
These
are
two
three
story:
structures
on
our
block.
Well,
this
one's
just
the
next
block
over
one
is
contemporary
one's
a
little
more
traditional
messed
up.
They're
fortunate
they've
got
a
large
lot
to
work
with
here's
another
three-story
structure
on
the
orleans
block
this
kind
of
caterpillar
here's
another
view
of
it
from
up
by
it
fits
in
quite
nicely.
The
setbacks
are
very
small
here,
side
to
side,
and
then
this
is
some
stuff
that
is
on
the
site
there.
H
It's
around
the
it's
just
a
continuation
of
some
stuff
that
we
have
loaded
earlier.
Our
site
plan
a
little
view
of
the
front
elevation,
the
possibility
of
putting
a
little
gate
in
front
of
the
carport
yeah.
You
guys
can
see
that
good,
complete
perspective
discussing
proximity.
We
did
try
to
minimize
the
fenestration
on
the
north
in
respect
to
this
neighbor
here,
so
there
won't
be
a
lot
of
visuals
to
the
north,
so
they're
joining
neighbor
and
again
this
view
down
here.
E
If
I
may
make
one
point,
I
think
the
most
kind
of
important
thing
that
ties
us
all
together
is
that
there
was
an
existing
structure
on
the
lot.
E
We
had
people
come
and
look
at
it
when
we
purchased
it
and
it
was
kind
of
deemed
beyond
what
would
be
a
feasible
renovation,
hpc,
elaine,
lund
and
dennis
fernandez,
which
I
uploaded
into
the
system,
approved
it
for
demolition
because
of
the
age
it
had
to
be
approved.
So
I
you
know
it
was
not
a
self-imposed
hardship
where
we
kind
of
tore
down
a
structure
just
to
build
a
new
one,
and
now
we're
complaining
about
the
lot
we
were
left
with.
The
existing
structure
was
not
salvageable
and
we're
not
asking
for
excess
setbacks.
E
We're
just
looking
for
what's
necessary.
To
put
you
know
product
today
on
the
lot.
I
think
the
most
important
thing
is
we,
you
know
the
reason
we
did
a
attached
garage
was
because
we
didn't
want
to
do
a
detached
garage
and
get
even
closer
to
the
rear
neighbor.
So
I
understand
we're
asking
for
a
pretty
that's.
The
most
considerable
exception
15
feet
to
five,
but
that
was
the
reason
versus
going
three
feet
with
a
detached
structure
or
a
detached
two-story
structure.
And
really
you
know
imposing
on
his
lot.
A
Understood,
thank
you.
Your
your
ten
minutes
is
up.
Let's
give
an
opportunity
for
others
to
speak,
and
then
there
will
be
a
few
minutes
for
rebuttal
afterwards
in
opportunity
for
questions
as
well.
Thank
you
all
right
is
there
anyone
from
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition
this
evening
come
on
up
here.
A
F
A
L
So
a
couple
things:
first,
I
didn't
hear
a
hardship
when
he
came
up.
The
hardship
is
that
the
house
is
too
big
and
doesn't
fit
on
the
lot.
I
just
don't
see
that
as
a
hardship.
The
second
thing
is,
in
speaking
with
pam
cannella
who's,
the
president
of
the
hyde
park,
historic
association,
there's
significant
concerns
with
parking
blocking
the
stop
sign,
flooding
green
space,
just
to
name
a
few.
Also.
I
literally
could
pass
him
a
cup
of
coffee
in
the
morning
and
never
see
the
sun
again.
L
K
L
So
mike,
I'm
opposed
to
the
structure
and
my
concerns
are
parking.
The
stop
sign,
there's
already
no
parking
in
the
area
and
the
way
that
they
have
the
parking
set
up.
Now,
if,
for
some
instance,
a
guest
or
someone
that
tries
to
park
in
the
parking
lot
or
in
their
garage
happens
to
hit
the
gas
and
not
the
break,
he's
now
in
my
living
room.
A
Thank
you
awesome.
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
Anyone
else
in
the
audience
wishing
to
speak
about
this
petition
this
evening,
all
right,
seeing
none.
I
will
open
it
up
for
questions
from
the
board
we'll
get
to
you.
You'll
you'll
have
a
response.
A
The
procedure
is
now
we
have
questions,
so
the
response
will
be
after
all,
questions.
After
all,
public
comments.
B
I
have
a
question
I
think,
for
staff.
I
see
the
request
for
setbacks,
but
not
for
a
height
setback.
Is
it
within
the
height
realm
right
now?
Is
this
being
presented?
Yes,
okay,.
C
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
questions
for
the
applicant
or
his
architect,
so
you
know
right
now:
you're
asking
for
a
reduction
of
the
side
yard
setback
from
seven
feet
to
four
feet:
six
inches
on
the
see
the
north
side.
Why
is
it
possible
to
like
set
the
house
so
that
you
know
you
meet
the
setbacks
on
the
north
side,
but
you
reduce
the
setbacks
on
the
south
side
that
seems
like
it
would
affect
fewer
people.
H
Yeah,
that's
a
very
good
question
and
it
probably
leads
into
the
specific
definitive
statement
we
should
have
made
about
our
hardship.
That's
a
very
narrow
lot.
It's
it's
36
feet
wide
with
the
standard
setbacks
that
reduces
the
width
of
the
house.
H
I
won't
say
it's
not
doable,
but
it
becomes
a
very,
very
narrow
structure,
probably
not
totally
comfortable
for
a
family.
Perhaps
quick
question.
That's
the
main.
C
A
Notice
would
have
to
change
right,
okay,
so
you
would
have
to
re-notice
so
that
you
modified
your
request.
But
that
would
be
something
I
mean
technically,
there
are
other
things
that
could
be
approved
tonight,
but
that's
that's
a
question
for
you,
but
yeah
we're
hoping.
H
Yeah,
that
would
probably
be
helpful
for
the
gentleman
that
has
some
concern
about
our
proximity
there,
so
that
that
would
be
great.
C
Okay
and
then
let's
see,
I
have
one
more
question,
but
it
has
slipped
my
mind
right
now,
so
I
think
that's
that's
all.
I
have
right
now.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions.
No,
I
have
a
couple
so
johnson
covered
one
of
them
and
I
think
it's
important.
These
are
some
of
these
are
for
staff
or
and
or
legal.
So
the
height
issue
is
not
within
our
purview
this
evening,
correct:
okay,
the
does
it
meet.
A
Some
of
the
neighbors
have
raised
green
space
concerns.
Does
the
lot
currently
meet
the
green
space
requirements.
I
Hello,
stephen
with
natural
resources,
so
yeah
it
looks
like
the
lot
meets
the
25
percent.
It
is
a
small
lot,
so
therefore
small
amount
of
green
space.
All
the
trees
are
in
the
right
of
way.
They
do
have
a
driveway
that
kind
of
goes
in
between
so
the
driveway
will
have
to
be
on
grade
pervious
pavement
different
options.
They
have
other
options,
though
they
can
work
with
to
not
impact
the
off-site
tree.
I
know
the
neighbor
has
an
oak.
I
A
And
then
I
don't
think
you're
you're
the
person
to
address
flooding,
questions
right.
I'm.
I
A
Yeah,
I
didn't
think
so.
Miss
madue,
maybe
that's
for
you.
If
there
are
any
concerns
about
flooding,
can
you
confirm
for
us
that
those
have
to
be
addressed
during
permitting
and
will
really
aren't
for
our
purview
this
evening.
A
So,
during
permitting
assuming
this
house
is,
is
approved
hypothetically
then
they
would
have
to
deal
with
that
through
some
sort
of
drainage
plan.
Things
like
that
correct,
okay
and
then
last
for
transportation.
Mr
scott,
some
some
concerns
were
raised
about
parking.
Can
you
tell
us
how
those
parking
concerns
are
addressed?
Is
there
are
they
permitted
to
park
in
the
right
of
way?
Anything
like
that?
How
is
the?
How
does
the
city
treat
that.
F
Transportation
planning,
jonathan
scott,
so
they'll
have
to
park
on
their
property
and
have
to
have
two
paved
parking
spaces.
They
have
two
spaces
in
their
garage
and
then
to
the
vehicle
entrance.
They'll
just
have
to
have
10
feet
from
the
property
line
to
the
vehicle
entrance
of
the
garage.
Okay,
so.
A
Okay
and
then
guest
parking
street
parking
things
like
that
are
permitted
in
this
neighborhood
yeah.
F
A
All
right
thanks,
those
are
all
the
questions
I
had
at
this
time.
Anybody
else,
johnson,
you
had
some
more.
B
Yeah
I'm
just
kind
of
soaking
this
all
in,
and
I
guess
you
know,
looking
at
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
this
very
narrow
and
small
lot
that
I
feel,
like
the
site
plan.
Just
doesn't
quite
help
the
neighborhood
that
much
where,
like
where
you
know,
maybe
the
setback
should
have
been
on
the
other
side
to
give
the
neighbor
more
space.
Maybe
the
front
porch
could
be
squeezed
tighter.
B
You
know,
like
I
just
don't
know
if,
like
I
don't
see
a
lot
of
effort
being
made
to
like
tie
into
the
neighborhood
so
well,
is
there
anything
you
could
do
with
the
the
front?
Sapbax
or
I
know
it's
small
a
lot,
but
it
is
what
it
is.
Is
there
square
footage
considerations
that
you
could
modify
the
lot.
H
Size
is
again,
I
believe,
the
hardship
we
have
specified
on
the
plan,
the
minimum
front,
porch
that's
allowed
into
the
front
yard.
It's
eight
feet
out
into
the
front
yard.
We've
also
exercised
a
little
bit
of
an
overhang
on
level.
Two
that's
allowed
to
go
out
three
feet
from
the
front
of
the
house.
This
is
called
a
balcony.
That's
part
of
the
code.
H
I
think
the
big
concern
often
is
when
you
design
for
a
contemporary
look
or
a
contemporary
aesthetic.
It
is.
It
is
different
and
it's
something
that
can
be
difficult
for
some
people
traditionally,
specifically
in
a
neighborhood
like
that,
we've
just
finished
two
very
narrow
buildings
up
in
the
noho
district,
very
contemporary.
I
did
one
with
assad
about
two
years
ago.
H
I
H
Yeah,
it
was
partially
program
driven.
What
would
be
our
level
one
which
is
kitchen
dining
eating.
Family
area
is
reduced
to
about
500
square
feet.
We
did
include
what
would
be
the
front
porch
or
terrace.
We
may
call
it
with
opening
doors
so
that
space
could
be
expanded
if
the
weather
was
good,
but
yeah
the
amount
of
space
is
pretty
limited
on
that
site.
It
really
is.
E
I
think
the
important
point
is
also
you
know.
We
would
be
again
open
to
shift
the
footprint
of
the
structure
towards
the
front
setback,
but
the
reason
we
intentionally
left
more
front
yard
space
is
because
you
know
we
believe
in
you
know,
having
a
nice
front
yard
presence.
It
contributes
to
these
neighborhoods
to
have
a
nice
manicured
front
yard
versus
we
already
have
no
backyard.
E
So
the
plan
was
to
you
know,
give
that
an
aesthetic
appeal
to
the
there's,
a
lot
of
foot
foot
traffic-
it's
hyde
park,
village
people
are
constantly
walking
by
so
to
give
something
that
interacts
nicely
with
the
street
versus
either
having
parking
or
fronting
the
structure
the
front
of
the
lot
giving
ourselves.
Yes,
it
would
solve
for
the
neighbor
and
the
distance
from
the
neighbor
issue,
and
it
would
give
us
a
yard
as
well,
but
then
we
would
have
a
structure
that
doesn't
interact
well
with
the
with
the
street.
E
In
our
view,
and
and
that
that
was
very
important
to
us
is
give
the
structure.
Some
interaction
with
the
street.
Give
us
give
whoever
is
going
to
live
in
this
house.
Ability
to
you
know,
sit
on
the
front
porch
and
have
that
street
interaction,
which
is
what
we
are
trying
to
encourage
in
the
neighborhood,
and
I
think
that
actually
ties
in
well
with
the
neighborhood.
A
lot
of
the
homes
have
front
balconies,
front
porches
and
just
bringing
that
street
level
interaction
versus
prioritizing
backyard
was
important
to
us.
E
That
being
said,
if
you
know
it's
what
it
takes
to
get
it
done
to
shift
the
footprint
a
few
feet
forward
and
then
create
that
separation
from
the
neighbor.
We're
not
opposed
to
that.
We
thought
this
fit
better
in
neighborhood
context,
but
we're
kind
of
open
to
shifting
if
needed
it
wouldn't
compromise.
What's
already
a
you
know,
small
first
level
footprint
and
if
it
would
solve
some
people's
concerns,
we
would
love
to
do
that.
H
Ms
johnson,
may
I
just
I'm
bringing
a
photo
off
again
that
maybe
reiterates
what
assad
is
talking
about,
and
this
is
the
streetscape
here
in
keeping
our
front
yard,
set
back
in
conformity
with
the
other
houses
on
the
street,
we're
all
talking
to
the
street
with
that
same
front,
porch,
aesthetic.
In
fact
it
is
a
front
porch,
so
the
neighbors
could
talk
via
front
porch.
That's
and
we
talk
about
that
a
little
bit
in
certain
terms,
septaed
and
other
community
interactions.
H
So,
but
I'm
hoping
for
suggestions,
I
really
am,
and.
E
I
do
agree
with
neighbor's
point
that
we
can
pass
coffee
and
you
know,
hopefully
we
will
be
passing
coffee
at
some
point
in
time.
It's
a
urban
neighborhood,
the
houses,
some
of
these
lots,
for
example,
this
lot
was
cut
into
three
lots.
We
got
a
letter
actually
10
minutes,
20
minutes,
30
minutes
before
we
even
got
to
this
hearing.
It
was
uploaded
in
a
cella,
nice
neighbor
said:
hey.
E
These
lots
were
caught
up
in
the
80s,
they
were
and
that's
the
context
of
the
neighborhood
right
that
you
know
it's
not
a
perfect
manicured,
suburban
neighborhood,
there's
different
orientations,
different
type
of
properties-
and
you
know
we
kind
of
it's
eclectic.
There's
a
modern
home
built
huge.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
that
photo
franklin
on
a
zeal,
so
what
we're
doing
is
not
completely
typical
for
the
area,
but
it's
not
unheard
of.
I
hope.
I
hope
that
helps.
E
I
mean
kind
of
you
know
we
did
try
to
give
consideration
to
the
neighbors
when
coming
up
with
our
requests.
A
All
right,
I
actually
had
one
more
question:
miss
madu
did
you
have
something
you
had
to
jump
in
on
sure.
A
Okay,
well,
my
first
question
was
actually
going
to
be
for
you
anyway.
Okay,
just
to
follow
up
to
some
well
follow
up
to
something
that
was
said
earlier.
If
parking
were
separated
into
an
accessory
structure
on
this
lot,
how
big
could
that
accessory
structure
be.
F
A
Okay,
so
let's
say
they
hypothetically,
they
moved
they
put
a
five
foot
separation
between
their
parking
structure
and
the
house.
How
close
could
that
that
same
size
structure
be
to
the
rear
property?
If,
under
this
hypothetical,
that
structure
shifted,
they.
F
A
Okay,
then,
I
have
a
follow-up
question
to
one
of
our
neighbors
who
who
was
it?
The
gentleman
are
you
you
were
the
one
who
was
talking
about
coffee,
passing
right,
yes,
okay,
and
are
you
the
person
who's
to
the
rear
of
of
the
house,
or
are
you
on
the
side
you're
on
the
north
side?
Okay,
so
where
was
the
gentleman
who
was
to
the
rear?
Would
you
come
up
real,
quick?
A
Because
I
do
want
to
ask
you
this,
and
I
want
to
give
you
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
it,
just
understanding
that
if
they
do
separate
this
this
property
and
making
separate
accessory
structure,
they
can
come
to
three
feet,
not
five
feet
from
your
house
and
that's
by
right.
We,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
stop
them
if
they
wanted
to
do
that.
They
wouldn't
even
have
to
come
here
and
ask
us
for
that.
I
just
want
to
ask
you
if,
if
that
would
be
preferable
or
if
it
would
be
preferable
because.
A
F
A
The
city
will
have
requirements
at
permitting
as
to
when
the
sidewalks
are
installed.
I
think
they
require
the
installation
of
sidewalks
for
new.
L
G
So
jd
modded
development
coordination.
The
heist
is
15,
but
they
could.
We
have
people
who
have
come
in
for
variances
for
accessory
structures
that
take
that
up
to
22
or.
G
15
without
a
variance
correct,
all
right
good,
I
I
did
have
a
follow-up,
because
I
I
heard
members
of
the
board
talking
about
moving
the
structure
towards
the
south
and
reducing
that
setback
from
seven.
At
this
point,
transportation
has
a
requirement
of
10
feet
for
that
driveway.
So
either
way
that
garage
would.
G
A
L
Okay,
all
right
and
a
question
for
transportation:
real
quick
if
they
decide
to
shift
this
away
to
the
south,
would
that
create
some
sight
line
issues
and
some
safety
issues
for
the
site
triangles
at
the
corners
jonathan's.
F
F
A
Awesome,
okay,
I
don't
have
any.
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
Anyone
else!
Okay,
now
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
I
need
to
address
any
of
the
issues
that
were
raised.
E
Okay-
and
I
think
it'd
be
first
time
doing
this,
so
it
the
letters
that
were
uploaded
kind
of
from
concerned
neighbors
that
didn't
necessarily
speak
here.
You
guys
are
privy
to
those.
Can
I
respond
to
those
you
can.
E
Fair
enough,
okay,
so
one
comment
came
in
from
a
rene
saying:
our
setback.
Exceptions
are
excessive.
If
we
had
a
standard
sized
lot,
then
we
wouldn't
need
the
setback.
So
it's
just
like
you
know,
they're
we're
asking
for
them
strictly
based
on
the
size
and
lots
she
said
based
on
the
size
of
the
lot.
The
requests
are
excessive.
The
request
only
exists
because
the
lot
is
a
small
lot.
We
had
a
comment
on
density
that
we're
bringing
too
much
density.
E
We
replaced
one
house
we're
trying
to
replace
it
with
another
house,
there's
no
less
density.
We
could
do
than
one
house
so
we're
not
increasing
the
density
in
terms
of
all
the
comments
of
the
flooding
two
points.
Obviously
that's
something
that
we
address
at
the
permitting
stage,
but
franklin
is
very
thoughtful
architect,
so
we'll
go
beyond
whatever
the
bare
minimum
is
required
by
the
city.
To
ensure
that
you
know,
there's
a
thoughtful
and
logical.
You
know
resolution
any
flooding
concerns.
E
Yeah
there
were
a
lot
of
comments
about
the
kind
of
the
flooding
concerns
which
I
think
were
well
addressed.
E
There
was
a
comment
about
the
height
we
kind
of
already
arrested
we're
within
where
we
are
by
right,
but
you
know
again,
we
wanted
to
be
respectful
of
the
neighborhood
and
we
are
in
a
context
where
there
are
three-story
town
homes
right
across
the
street
four
and
five-story
multi-family
dwines
as
well
nearby,
and
then
you
know,
final
question
that
we
had
about
a
neighbor
named
julia
commented
that
the
property
would
be
an
eyesore.
We
wanted
to
be
transparent
with
what
we
wanted
to
build.
E
We
could
have
just
submitted
a
site
plan
and
left
it
like
to
be
determined
what
we're
going
to
put
on
there.
It
was
not
our
responsibility
necessarily
from
my
understanding
to
provide
renderings,
but
we
wanted
to
be
honest,
straightforward
with
what
we
intend
to
do
on
the
lot.
Instead
of
coming
up
with
a
three-story
structure,
telling
people
we're
going
to
build
something
traditional
and
then
pulling
a
fast
one,
and
you
know
calling
it
eyesore,
I
mean
I
take
up
objection
to
that.
E
It's
offensive
and
subjective
and
we're
going
to
create
an
architecturally,
significant
structure
that
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
can
be
proud
of.
You
know
our
intention
is
not
to
come
in
there.
You
know,
throw
up
some
box
cut
off
everybody's
light
supply
and
then
leave
the
neighborhood.
I
do
respect
those
concerns,
but
we're
gonna
make
sure
that
this
is
an
addition
to
the
neighborhood
and
and
finally
there
are
a
lot
of
comments
about
staying
within
the
known
rules.
E
The
whole
point
of
the
variance
is
to
get
a
reasonable
exception
to
what's
on
the
books,
it's
to
resolve
hardships
like
this,
we're
not
the
first
or
the
last
people
in
the
neighborhood
to
ask
for
setback,
exceptions
and
specifically
in
dobieville.
You
know
the
side
yard
setbacks
are
very
common.
Most
of
the
houses
are
quite
close
to
each
other.
To
you
know,
pass
coffee
pass
a
cup
of
salt
whatever
it
might
be
so
we're
within
that
context,
but
we
tried
to
be
as
respectful
as
possible.
That's
I
think,
that's
pretty
much
it.
E
I
think
that
addresses
any
of
the
questions
comments
that
anybody
had
and
then
just
lastly,
not
to
beat
a
dead
horse,
but
the
whole
reason
we
asked
for
the
five
foot
setback
exception,
because
when
it's,
when
the
structure
is
attached,
you
need
to
ask
for
that
exception.
We
didn't
want
to
go
the
three-foot
route
and
build
an
in-law
suite
above
a
garage,
especially
given
the
fact
that
somebody
may
use
that
as
a
rental
property
or
rent
out
part
of
their
house
and
then
look
at
the
neighbor's
pool.
E
So
we
specifically
oriented
the
garage
as
attached
to
solve
for
that
concern.
We
wanted
to
be
respectful
of
neighbors
privacy
as
much
as
we
could
given
the
lot
we
have.
If
our
lot
was
50
foot
deeper,
then
we
would
have
had
more
separation,
but
we
really
tried
to
do
the
best.
We
could
from
the
front
end
and
keep
in
mind
what
concerns
could
potentially
come
up
before
they
did
come
up.
That's
kind
of
okay.
A
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
Do
you
have
something
further
to
say
you
still
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
I
thank
you
for
your
attention.
Okay,
awesome!
Well!
Thank
you
everyone
this
evening
for
a
good,
robust
discussion.
I
will
now
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
a
motion
from
the
board.
C
The
side,
yard
setback
from
seven
feet
to
four
feet:
six
inches
in
the
rear
yard,
setback
from
15
feet
to
five
feet,
with
an
encroachment
for
eaves
and
gutters,
based
on
the
applicant,
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
alleged
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
is
unique
and
singular
to
this
property.
C
By
way
of
example,
the
rear
yards
and
many
of
the
adjacent
properties
are
very
short
and
but
adjacent
alleyways.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion.
Do
we
have
a
second.
A
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
do
we
have.
Is
there
a
reason
for
discussion
on
this?
Does
anyone
want
to
have
discussion.
B
I'm
going
to
not
deny
it
just.
I
believe
that
this
lot
is
just
too
small
for
the
proposed
structure
and
its
program
for
this
neighborhood.
A
Okay,
all
right,
I
mean
I
just
to
tack
onto
that.
I
I
really
I'm
wrestling
with
the
issues
here.
It
was
a
well-made
motion
and
there
are
a
lot
of
good
reasons
to
approve
this.
I
do
see
the
concerns
that
the
neighbors
have
raised,
but
it's
a
very
small
legal
lot
and
they
have
a
right
to
build
something
on
it
and
they
have
a
right
to
go
up
to
the
height
that
they're
going
up.
A
A
I
would
have
really
preferred
that
they
may
be
shifted
south
away
from
the
neighbor
to
the
north,
but
we've
got
like
a
three
two
and
a
half
foot
adjustment
there.
It's
not
awful,
it's
not
great,
but
it's
not
awful.
The
only
piece
that
really
bothers
me
is
the
the
the
five
feet
fifteen
to
five.
A
You
know
with
the
height
of
this,
and
that's
the
only
piece
that
really
troubles
me.
So
I
don't
know
what
what?
What
are
your?
What
does
everyone
else?
Think
about
that.
C
You
know,
I
think
you
make
a
good
point.
I
think
that
you
know
that
the
neighbor,
who
is
immediately,
I
guess
to
the
east,
you
know,
raises
a
good
point
about
his
concern
with
the
lighting.
You
know,
I.
I
still
think
that
the
size
of
the
lot
which
the
city
has
determined
you
know
is
legal
non-conforming.
I
I
don't
feel
like
we
can
say
that
these
are.
This
is
the
result
of
the
actions
of
the
applicants,
but
so
I
am
not
inclined
to
change
my
motion.
C
However,
I
can
bifurcate
it
if
we
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
continuance
with
respect
to
the
rear
yard
setback,
adjustment.
A
Well,
all
right:
well,
let's,
let's
go
ahead
and
vote
on
it
and
we'll
see
how
it
goes.
Okay,
all
right
all!
So
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
of
the
motion
to
approve,
say:
aye
aye,
all
those
in
opposed
all
right.
The
motion
passes
three
to
one.
If
anyone
wishes
to
appeal
this
to
the
city
council,
I'm
sorry
miss
john
cephales.
D
Susan
johnson
velez
legal
department-
and
I
apologize
for
not,
I
think
when
you
were
explaining
the
request
for
continuance,
and
I
just
started
looking
up
the
rules
of
procedure
just
in
case
there
was
a
tie
back.
D
So
what
do
you
got
for
us?
So
as
far
as
voting
goes,
although
a
simple
majority
is
required
to
conduct
routine
business
and
to
deny
an
application,
there
is
required
a
at
least
four
members
of
the
board
have
to
vote
to
approve
an
application.
A
A
D
A
D
A
A
I
don't
know
you're
not
going
to
be
here
well,
we
might
need
some
more
people
tell
city
council
that
they
need
to
get
some
people
here.
Otherwise,
we're
gonna
have
this
recurring:
okay,
okay,.
A
Staff
is
available
for
questions.
Sure,
okay,
got
it
awesome;
okay,
let's
move
on
to
22-25.
D
Susan
johnson
legal
department-
again,
you
might
want
to
ask
again
yeah.
D
A
We
move
forward
just
so
everyone
understands
what's
going
to
happen,
if
you
don't
have
them,
you
don't
have
an
unanimous
consent
in
favor
of
your
petitions
you're
going
to
get
automatically
continued,
so
you
can
choose
to
automatically
get
a
continuance.
Now
you
can
roll
forward
with
your
petition
and
if
you
have
unanimous
approval,
it'll
get
approved
or,
alternatively,
it
could
be
denied
or
continued
depending
on
how
things
move
forward
this
evening.
A
G
G
G
It
was
reviewed
by
I
mean
since
they
were
cited.
They
have
gone
in
to
put
in
a
building
permit
for
the
driveway
extension,
however,
because
the
accessory
structure
does
not
meet
the
required
setbacks.
They're
here
for
the
variants,
this
was
reviewed
by
natural
resources
and
found
consistent
transportation,
found
them
consistent,
right
away,
found
them
consistent
and
natural
resources.
With
the
comments
that
there
are
no
trees
impacted
by
the
work
by
the
unpermitted
work.
G
This
is
the
site
plan
that
the
applicant
has
provided,
showing
the
existing
conditions
on
the
site
a
little
difficult
to
read.
However,
this
portion
right
here
highlighted
with
the
with
the
hatch,
with
the
red
dotted
lines
that
is
the
shed
right
next
to
the
structure,
so
the
existing
structure
is
the
one
that
is
in
some
green
yeah.
It's
a
bit
difficult
to
read,
but
the
green
is
the
existing
structure
and
then
the
shed
is
the
one
that's
right.
G
A
Okay
is:
are
the
applicants
here?
Applicant
here
went
up
all
right
state,
your
name,
your
address
confirm
that
you've
been
sworn
and
then.
N
N
David
signed
bananas,
3902
was
taken
street
and
I've
been
sworn
in
great.
So
basically,
my
household
increased
with
my
fiance
moving
in
and
her
daughter
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
I
realized
that
none
of
our
cars
and
bikes
were
gonna
fit.
I
tried
to
put
the
bikes
on
the
wall
inside
the
garage
and
it
was
a
hazard.
You
know,
fell
on
the
fells
on
the
on
the
cars
trying
to
have
my
12
year
old.
N
Take
the
bike
off
the
walls
was
hazardous
enough,
so
I
decided
to
put
a
shed
a
shed.
That's
all
I
I
didn't
didn't
know
much
more
than
that,
so
I
called
a
company
in
clearwater
that
just
makes
pre-mac
pre-made
sheds
and
they
bring
them
out
to
you
and
they
they
put
them
there.
We
decided
on
a
space
that
was
most
most
probably
the
only
space
I
had
available
to
it
and
it
was.
It
was
placed
and
mounted
to
the
ground.
N
It
is
not
mounted
or
it
is
not
placed,
there's
no
entrance
into
the
garage
or
anything.
It's
it's
truly
a
shed.
I
did
have
it
you
know
painted
so
it
looks
like
it's
a
preachable.
You
know
curb
appeal
that
that
it
looked
appropriate
so
then
the
kids
could
get
to
their
bicycles
and
things
like
that
without
any
hazard
to
the
to
the
cars
or
or
obviously
to
them.
Let
me
show
you
some
other
pictures.
N
So
you
know
so
here
there's
a
walkway
to
the
to
the
side
of
it.
If
I,
if
I
go
any
farther
out
that
way,
there's
no
way
to
get
to
the
back
of
the
yard
or
to
the
the
dumpsters
or
things
I
need
to
bring
out
there,
I
can't
bring
any
forward
backwards
into
the
artificial
grass
there's
no
way
they
can
get
behind.
It
have
to
go
behind
the
fence.
It's
just
not
feasible
that
they
would
be
able
to
pull
anything
out
from
the
back
there
with
the
dog.
N
There
too
would
be
it's
just
it's
just
not
going
to
happen.
I
couldn't
put
any
further
back
because
I
had
you
know
the
electricity
things
and
things
of
that
nature.
So
you
know
it's
a
very
slim
space
to
to
find
a
place
to
put
a
shed.
I
need
that
shed
for
practical
reasons,
as
well
as
safety
reasons.
I
just
can't
have
my
kids
pulling
things
off
the
wall
and
things
on
any
chair.
I
don't
think
it
affected
anybody.
It's
got.
N
It's
got
appropriate,
curb
appeal:
it's
not
attached
to
the
garage,
it's
just
a
shed
at
the
most,
almost
probably
the
only
real
place.
I
could
put
it.
N
And
you
know
I
I
I
made
the
assumption
as
a
lot
of
us
do,
unfortunately,
that
whoever's
going
to
build
the
or
put
it
into
you
is
going
to
go
check
and
see
if
it's
appropriate,
which
is,
I
realized,
down
my
responsibility,
but
wasn't
clear
by
that.
That's
why
I
put
it
in
there
first
I
thought
I
was
just
bringing
in
a
shed.
It
turned
out
to
be
more
than
that
and
at
this
point
it's
bolted
to
the
ground.
A
Okay,
does
that
conclude
your
presentation
this
evening
yeah
right,
let's
see
if
there's
anyone
from
the
audience
who
wishes
to
talk
about
this?
Is
there
anything
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition
all
right,
seeing
none.
Does
anyone
on
the
board
have
questions
for
the
petitioner?
A
C
Do
you
have
any
photos
of
like
the
whole
front
of
your
house,
I'm
I'm
interested
in.
What's
on
the
other
side
of.
N
Oh,
I
see,
let
me
see
if
I
can
get
that
really.
The
other
side
is
the
grass
going
down
the
slope.
You
know,
so
it's
really
not
accessible.
Maybe
I
could
find
a
picture
of
some
sort,
but
that
it's
really
there's
no
way
it
would.
I'd
have
to
have
to
have
the
it
would
have
to
be
leveled.
It
just
wouldn't
work.
C
And
then
I
have
a
quick
question
for
staff,
so
this,
based
on
the
pictures
like
the
shed,
looks
like
it's
right
up
against
the
house.
What
makes
it
an
accessory
structure,
as
opposed
to
like
part
of
the
permanent
structure.
N
B
I
guess
this
might
be
a
question
for
staff
or
legal.
I
mean
the
shed
looks
nice.
It
matches
the
house,
it
doesn't
detract
from
the
street
view,
but
you
are
asking
for
a
setback
of
three
inches.
So
if
that
stays
with
the
property,
it
means
that
someone
can
build
or
expand
right
to
that
three
inch
is
that
true,
it's
that
three
inches
stays
with
the
property
is.
Is
there
any
way
that.
G
The
three
inches
is
for
the
eve
to
eave
separation
between
okay
structures,
so
he
it's
supposed
to
be
at
five
feet
e
to
e.
But
at
this
point
it's
just
three
inches
separating
the
principal
structure
and
the
shed.
So
that's
what
that
reduction
is
okay,
so,
okay,.
A
Okay
and
the
front,
it
only
needs
60
feet
because
it's
an
accessory
structure
were
it
part
of
the
principal
structure.
The
principal
structure
is
already
set
back
where
it
needs
to
be
correct.
Okay
and
then
I'm
I'm
having
a
little
trouble
reading
this
site
plan.
What
what
is
the
old
house
outline
versus.
N
A
N
Sure
how
that
was,
but
he
got
it
from
this-
I
don't
know
I
had
to
have
it
made,
that's
how
he
did
it.
So
if
I
move
that
you
know,
if
I
had
that
five
foot
it'd
be
it
wouldn't
work
and
I'd
be
right
in
the
middle
of
the
walkway,
I
don't
think
there's
five
feet
there
for
me
to
move
it
that
far,
so
I
can't
go
that
far
and
I
thought
if
I
was
far
enough
up
against
the
you
know,
this
distance
from
the
garage
to
the
to
the
street
would
be
reasonable.
So.
D
Legal
department-
I
did
just
want
to
clarify
that
and
answer
the
second
part
of
your
question
that,
yes,
if
the
variance
is
granted,
it
does
run
with
the
land,
and
so
something
happens
to
this
shed.
Somebody
could
you
know,
remove
this
one
and
put
something
else
in
as
long
as
they
meet
whatever
variants
you
grant
this
evening.
Yet
that
would
continue,
but.
A
B
D
D
G
A
A
Okay,
all
right,
then,
with
that
said,
we
will
close
public
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
a
motion
from
the
board.
B
Be
granted
is
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
reduction
of
the
front
setback
from
60
to
26
and
eve
separation
from
five
foot
to
three
inches
based
on
the
applicant,
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
When
considering
the
fight
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
this
shed
doesn't
really
detract
from
the
house
at
all.
There
is
a
lack
of
space
and
it
doesn't
affect
the
side,
yard
setback.
A
C
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
any
need
for
discussion,
seeing
none
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Your
motion
is
proved
forward
to
nothing
have
a
great
evening.
A
Right
moving
right
along
2243.
G
G
G
G
There's
a
picture
showing
on
the
subject
property
on
the
left.
You
see
what
is
the
view
from
of
the
from
the
house
to
the
street
and
the
second
picture.
You
see
that
street
level,
looking
at
the
canopies
of
those
grand
trees
on
the
pro
on
the
subject
property
and
this
showing
the
kind
of
ps,
extends
over
that
portion
of
the
front
yard.
G
Stephen
will
be
available
to
speak
to
any
questions
you
have
regarding
the
tree
or
the
condition
and
natural
resources,
the
determination
of
the
of
the
request,
the
variance
request
before
the
board.
The
board
shall
consider
section
27-80
as
the
criteria
for
approving
the
variance
quest
before
you
and
I
will
be
available
if
you
have
any
questions.
A
J
Hello,
my
name
is
elizabeth
carmody,
the
property
address
is
2510
west
tennessee
avenue,
and
I've
been
sworn
in.
I'm
the
agent
acting
on
behalf
of
the
owner,
andre
garenkov,
I'm
the
project
manager
with
the
architecture
firm,
designing
the
new
structures
on
lot.
Two
and
three
andre
and
anara
have
been
living
in
the
existing
residence
since
2018.
J
This
meeting
is
to
request
a
variance
to
decrease
the
street
setback
on
tennessee
avenue
from
the
zoned
25
feet
to
14.5
14
feet
5
inches
and
to
reduce
the
vehicular
entrance
from
18
foot
5
inches
to
14
foot
5
inches.
If
the
city
deems
that
a
parking
variance
is
necessary,
the
sole
purpose
for
moving
this
setback
is
to
protect
this
northern
grand
tree
here
located
on
the
property
during
the
upcoming
construction
on
lots.
Two
and
three.
J
So
here's
a
google
street
view
of
the
street's
current
conditions
and
the
neighboring
properties
setbacks.
This
is
right
across
the
street.
This
image
also
gives
a
clear
idea
of
just
how
expansive
the
size
of
this
tree
is
and
its
presence
in
the
neighborhood.
So
we
really
want
to
do
anything
that
we
can
to
protect
it
as
much
as
possible.
J
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
site
does
hold
two
grand
trees
on
the
west
yard.
It
was
originally
plotted
by
the
architect,
john
howie,
so
in
the
drawings,
if
you
see
that
18
and
a
half
foot
where
the
current
plot
is
for
lot
three,
that
was
actually
a
variance
that
he
got
but
from
the
city
and
when
he
first
plotted
this
lot
in
2011..
J
So
the
current
shape
of
the
plots
is
due
to
his
partially
unbuilt
design,
how
he
did
construct
the
existing
residence,
which
is
here
in
lot,
one
which
is
where
my
the
owner
currently
resides
and
yeah
got
that
variance
from
25
feet
to
18
feet,
I'm
assuming
again
because
of
the
grand
tree
there.
J
So
we've
been
hired,
as
I
mentioned,
to
design
and
build
in
lot.
Two
and
three
with
respect
to
the
design
of
the
existing
structure,
to
maximize
the
living
space
within
these
two
footprints
and
maintain
the
relationship
of
the
height
of
the
existing
structure,
which
is
31
foot
six
inches.
J
J
J
So
this
this
photo
shows
the
major
limbs
that
are
currently
in
conflict
with
if
we
wanted
to
build
really
anything
over
the
height
of
24
feet
in
that
in
that
lot.
J
So
through
our
design
process,
the
arborist
david
reilly
came
and
visited
the
site
to
value
the
trees
and
did
determine
that
also
considering
the
major
the
development
on
the
west,
the
south
and
the
southwest
of
the
property.
A
majority
of
those
trees
root
systems
is
currently,
in
my
client's
front
yard.
That's
currently
undisturbed,
so
another
argument
that
we'd
like
to
make
is
the
more
that
we
can
expand
that
courtyard
space
of
tract
a.
J
So
in
the
arborist
report
on
the
text
on
the
left
here,
this
is
direct
excerpt
from
the
arborist
report.
He
does
state
that
if
the
building
can
be
moved
at
least
four
feet
towards
tennessee,
a
portion
of
one
lead
could
be
retained.
The
second
lead
was
still
to
be
removed,
but
the
result
is
not
having
to
make
a
24
inch
wound
on
the
trunk
of
this
tree
and
will
lessen
the
amount
of
canopy
that
has
to
be
removed
as
well.
J
He
said
that
he
determined
that
this
pruning
should
be
okay
with
respect
to
the
health
of
the
tree
and
again,
the
more
we
can
maximize
that
courtyard
space,
the
better
off
the
tree
will
be
so
this
image
here
we
went
out.
Our
team
went
out
there
and
mapped
out
and
flagged
the
proposed
structures
footprint
if
we
were
to
shift
lots
two
and
three
closer
to
the
street,
and
we
did
determine
that.
The
shift
would
allow
for
us
to
mitigate
harm
to
the
tree
in
this
image.
J
The
limbs
circled
in
green
are
the
ones
we'd
be
able
to
keep
with
this
variants
and
the
red
or
the
minor
limbs
that
are
already
really
close
to
a
power
line.
It
probably
would
need
to
be
trimmed
anyway,
and
then
this
these
two
images
here
show
the
tree
that
would
hang
into
that
courtyard
that
right
now,
the
lot
three,
the
south
edge
of
it
conflicts
with
that
branch.
So
that
also
opens
up
for
that
major
limb
to
kind
of
hang
in
into
that
courtyard,
there.
J
J
According
to
florida's
statute
163.045,
we
can't
proceed
with
cutting
a
grand
tree
if
an
arborist
certifies
that
it
poses
a
danger
to
the
property.
We
really
want
to
avoid
this
outcome.
Obviously,
we
feel
that
it's
in
the
neighborhood's
best
interest
for
the
tree
to
or
for
the
city
to
approve
this
variance
request
to
mitigate
damage
to
the
tree's
root
and
limb
system
as
much
as
possible.
J
Given
the
broad
span
of
the
tree's
canopy
and
its
presence
in
the
neighborhood,
we
feel
that
the
four-foot
decrease
in
the
setback
that
already
has
a
variance
at
18
feet
will
have
much
less
of
an
impact
on
the
street's
current
conditions
than
the
absence
of
this
tree.
If
any
harm
were
to
be
done
with
it
and
it
didn't
survive.
Construction
here
are
some
more
images
of
the
property
directly
east,
with
the
shortened
setback,
as
well
as
the
property
directly
north
apartment
complex
across
the
street.
J
While
we
were
doing
research
on
how
we
can
best
protect
this
tree,
we
also
did
consult
with
jonathan
scott
in
transportation.
He
did
specify
that
if
a
city,
if
the
city
decides
it's
necessary,
we
could
reduce
vehicular
storage
area
from
the
minimum
setback
from
18
feet
to
10
feet.
But,
as
you
can
see
on
this
plan,
we
have
ample
parking
on
the
site,
the
existing
gravel
driveway
right
here
we
plan
to
keep
because
it
does.
We
don't
want
to
harm
that
trees.
A
C
J
We
that
isn't
something
that
we've
looked
into,
but
we
are
still
with
the
project
dealing
with
structural
engineers
and
stuff.
It's
still
very
much
in
a
place
that
if
we
really
needed
to
I'm
not
sure
if
that
does
have
a
cost
to
it,
I
think
anyone
building
on
the
slot.
It
is
plotted
for
three
three
lots
on
there,
so
I
think,
no
matter
what
building
on
it
again
we're
trying
to
mitigate
any
damage
to
the
tree.
J
The
arborist
david
reilly
he's
worked
with
the
city
for
a
long
time
and
I
felt
really
confident
in
him.
He
is
very
passionate
about
trees
and
I
felt
very
confident
with
him
saying
hey.
If
you
move
it
four
feet,
you
don't
need
to
take
that
major
limb.
It'll
be
okay,.
I
This
is
steven
eiser
with
natural
resources.
Yes,
it
does.
According
to
the
report,
dave
reilly
is
one
of
the
self-certified
arborists
with
the
city.
I
Everything's
been
verified
in
his
report,
so
I
feel
like
with
this
plan,
with
the
gravel
driveway
already
present,
with
the
the
two
limbs
being
removed.
The
two
smaller
limbs
compared
to
the
two
large
scaffolds,
like
you're
talking
24
inch
cuts
now
they're.
Like
probably
this
size,
the
trees
do
have
a
much
better
chance.
Okay,.
I
When
it
gets
to
the
building
phase,
there's
all
different
kinds,
like
air
spading,
may
be
required
along
the
footers
to
make
sure
there's
any
major
routes,
pure
and
lentil
footers
may
be
required
to
kind
of
bridge
over
any
routes
that
come
across
and
different.
Things
like
that.
B
Yeah,
I
was
just
curious
when
you're
in
that
building
process,
if
you
are
encountering
a
certain
diameter
route,
are
you
required
to
consult
the
city
or
an
arborist?
Is
that
yeah.
I
A
A
B
It's
so
exciting
I'll
move
that
the
variance
request
for
case
brb
this
one
2243
for
the
property
located
at
2510
west
tennessee
avenue
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
reduction
of
the
front
setback
from
25
feet
to
14
feet,
5
inches
and
reduce
the
vehicular
entrance
impact
from
18
feet
to
14
feet,
5
inches,
based
on
the
applicant's
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence,
and
the
record
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
asset
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
B
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
with
this
new
construction,
there
are
efforts
made
to
protect
the
grand
tree,
and
I
commend
you
for
making
those
efforts
to
make
it
work.
And
I
believe
that
it
will
fit
into
a
site
plan
that
nicely.
A
G
The
property
owners
are
scott,
gregory
and
erica
johnson
and
the
variance
request
is
to
reduce
the
front.
The
rare
yard
setback
from
15
feet
to
1.74
feet
and
the
side
yard
setback
from
seven
feet
to
three
point:
seven
four
feet-
and
this
is
for
an
accessory
structure
and
the
code
section
in
reference
is
section
27-290,
accessory
structures
with
a
gross
floor
area
larger
than
15
percent
of
the
minimum
required
lot.
Size
must
meet
principal
structure,
setbacks
as
referenced
in
section
27-156.
G
G
And
this
is
the
proposed
new
structure,
maintaining
the
existing
structures
of
the
current
accessory
structure.
However,
the
side
the
staircase
has
been
moved
from
the
west
side
to
the
east
side.
G
G
These
are
the
pictures
provided
by
the
applicant,
showing
the
subject
property
again
and
that
accessory
structure
to
the
rear,
more
pictures
showing
the
current
structure
as
it
exists.
This
again
is
going
to
be
replaced
by
a
new
structure
in
the
determination
of
the
variance
request
before
you.
The
bots
shall
consider
section
27-80
the
criteria
for
proven
a
variance
request,
and
if
you
have
any
questions
I'll
be
available.
A
L
L
Basically,
what
we,
what
we
planned
to
do
was
to
renovate
the
existing
structure,
but
due
to
structural
issues,
we
decided
it
might
be
more
feasible
to
knock
it
down
and
replace
it,
love
the
neighborhood
and
the
character
and
and
the
bungalow
design,
and
so
we
want
to
build
it
back
almost
exactly
the
way
it
is
today.
The
only
change
we
proposed
to
make
was
to
move
the
stair
away
from
our
neighbor's
backyard
to
the
other
side
to
give
them
more
privacy.
L
L
L
L
This
is
kind
of
interesting.
We
got
this
from
the
tampa
library.
This
is
some
old
photos
from.
I
think
the
1940s
that
show
the
the
structure
as
it
was.
A
Cool
photos
yeah
all
right
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition,
seeing
none
any
questions
from
the
board
nope,
seeing
none.
You
have
five
minutes
for
a
bubble,
I'm
good
all
right,
then
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
a
motion
from
the
board.
L
Three
point:
seven
four
feet
based
upon
the
applicant
presenting
competent,
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
when
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
this
home
was
built
in
the
early
1900s
before
a
lot
of
this
code
was
existent
and
that
is
what's
caused.
C
A
Hearing
none,
let's
vote,
all
those
in
favor
say
aye
any
opposed
all
right.
Your
motion
passes.
Your
petition
passes
four
to
nothing,
have
a
great.
F
G
G
G
This
was
a
work
without
permits
and
they
do
have
open
code
and
violations
and
complaints,
and
they
are
here
looking
to
get
variants
in
order
to
fix
the
setback
issues
that
they
have.
G
G
This
was
reviewed
by
natural
resources,
transportation
and
right
off.
We
have
found
consistent
natural
resources,
found
them
consistent
with
conditions
that
they
meet
the
landscape
requirements
at
the
time
of
permitting.
G
G
G
A
The
letter
of
opposition-
I
don't
see
that
in
the
packet
is
that
was
that
included
in
the
packet
or
am
I
just
missing
it.
A
All
right
applicant
we'll
need
to
stay
his
name
his
address
and
confirm
that
he
has
been
sworn
and
then
he'll
have
10
minutes
to
make
a
presentation
explaining
the
hardships
and
why
you
need
to
do
what
you've
done.
F
F
F
M
F
M
A
M
A
M
M
I
A
Obviously,
we
cannot
grant
what
has
not
been
noticed.
Correct
do
we
know
which
side
yard
setback
was
noticed
was
that
the
east
or
the
west
side.
A
So
the
east
side,
the
east
side-
was
noticed
to
3.2
okay,
and
so
we
cannot
grant
to
one
point:
whatever
is.
A
Right,
so
if,
if
you
will
explain
that,
we
have
no
ability
to
grant
this
evening
anything
beyond
what
was
previously
noticed,
which
would
be
only
the
one
yard,
the
one
side
yard
setback,
which
was
seven
feet
to
3.2,
which
was
noticed
and
the
other
one
was
not
noticed
at
all.
F
A
Was
did
you
have
a
sign
posted
that
showed
the
two
side
yard
setbacks?
F
A
G
A
D
F
A
G
What
what
what
I
would
recommend,
because
he
he
says-
and
I
do
see
a
picture
for
a
sign
with
the
new
information,
but
I
don't
have
documentation
for
that
so
and
again,
because
this
is
a
translation
issue.
Sometimes
I
work
with
staff
at
the
office,
so
I
would
say
I
would
request
if
the
applicant
is
okay
with
that
that
we
continue
this
case
and
we
see
if
we
do
have
that
information.
F
A
If
they
want
to
proceed
with
those
numbers,
then
I
don't
see
any
choice
but
to
move
this
to
a
subsequent
hearing
date.
A
F
A
G
A
M
M
F
G
M
G
M
G
M
D
M
F
G
G
A
Extension
or
do
you
would
you
prefer,
is
it
easier
to
just
have
a
motion
for
july?
Okay,
let's
come
back
on
yeah.
C
All
I
moved
that
the
variance
requests
for
case
brb
22-46
for
property
located
at
2610,
west
crest
avenue
for
a
reduction
of
the
side,
yard
setback
and
rare
yard
setback
be
continued
until
tuesday
july
12th
at
5
30
for
the
public
hearing.
A
G
All
right
so
the
next
case
before
the
board
is
vrb23-47,
and
this
is
addressed
at
2404,
north
ridgewood
avenue,
zone,
rs,
60,
residential
single
family,
the
property
owner
is
elizabeth,
elizabeth
hedman
and
the
variance
request
is
to
increase
the
accessory
structure
height
from
15
feet,
to
22
feet
and
six
inches,
and
this
is
in
order
to
construct
a
two-story
accessory
structure,
and
the
code
section
in
reference
is
section.
27-290
accessory
structure
shall
not
exceed
15
feet
in
height,
and
this
is
an
area
showing
that
subject
property.
G
G
A
I
A
All
right
mricer,
while
you're
here,
can
you
give
us
a
quick
rundown
of
your
memo
on.
I
Yeah,
so
a
lot
of
property,
stephen
eister,
natural
resources.
For
my
memo,
a
lot
of
the
comments
are
generated
because
of
the
offside
tree,
the
off-site
grand
tree.
The
building
is
out
of
the
protective
radius.
So
really
just
the
stairs
need
to
be
shifted
forwards
closer
to
the
pool,
I
think
with
the
layout
that
they
currently
have.
I
think
that's
pretty
easily
done
they'll
just
flip
where
the
bathroom
in
the
closet
are,
and
they
should
be
able
to
provide
that
space.
I
A
All
right,
thank
you
for
that.
I
appreciate
it
all
right,
petitioner
come
on
up
state
your
name.
Your
address
confirm
that
you've
been
sworn
you'll,
have
10
minutes.
O
Ralph
schuler
2401
north
howard
avenue.
I
have
not
been
sworn
okay.
A
There's
anyone
else
who
has
not
been
sworn
this
evening
and
if
there's
a
possibility
that
you
might
speak
even
a
slight
chance
stand
up.
Let's
swear
you
in.
A
Will
thank
you.
Okay,
all
right.
So
now
you
can
confirm
you've
been
sworn.
I
have
yeah.
Thank
you
all
right.
Awesome.
You
have
10
minutes
to
explain
your
hardships
uh-huh.
Thank
you.
O
So
pretty
simple,
straightforward
project
this
this
project.
Currently
she
has
no
garage.
We
want
to
build
a
garage,
the
garage
in
rm,
I'm
sorry,
an
rs60
allows
for
900
square
feet.
We
can't
build
900
square
feet
here
for
a
couple
reasons.
Of
course
we
have
a
grand
tree
on
the
on
the
adjacent
property
to
the
north,
so
we've
we've
set
the
building.
Outside
of
that,
we
were
proposing
one
column
to
support
a
column
in
in
in
that
protective
radius.
We
would
either
air
spade
it.
It
wouldn't
wouldn't
work.
O
A
That
think
it's
here
right,
yeah
miss
my
dude
usually
pushes
the
button
but
she's
running
to
check
her
car.
So.
O
O
So
we're
trying
to
nestle
this,
yes
between
some
eve
to
eve
issues,
we're
bringing
it
as
far
forward
as
as
possible,
and
this
is
an
existing
drive.
Now
there
used
to
be
some
time
ago.
I
don't
know
when
a
an
accessory
structure.
Previously
there
is
a
slab,
that's
still
there
in
the
back
corner
that
was
demolished
some
time
ago.
Now
we're
going
to
bring
a
new
this
new
accessory
structure
forward
to
protect
this
tree.
O
Of
course,
these
two
trees
here
and
then
this
is
an
alley,
but
there's
quite
a
bit
of
grade
between
here
and
this
alley,
because
going
this,
this
direction
is
the
river
about
two
block
and
a
half
from
the
river.
So
what
we're
asking
for
is
is
to
just
build
an
accessory
structure
of
what's
allowed
up
to
900
square
feet,
but
but
make
it
a
two-story
instead
of
a
one-story
structure
which
would
go
from
15
to
22
and
a
half
feet.
O
There
are
many
other
structures
within
this
neighborhood,
both
historical
and
new,
that
that
also
are
two-story,
which
we
have
a
quick,
quick
elmo
here.
This
is
our
our
structure,
our
property
line
here,
our
property,
the
adjacent
neighbor
just
to
the
south-
has
a
two-story
accessory
structure.
One
on
the
alley
has
a
two-story
structure
structure
and
then
these
are
all
other
security
structures
this
one
and
this
one,
which
are
which
were
pd'd
both
have
brand
new,
excessive
structures
of
similar
size
and
scale
within
the
neighborhood.
So
it's
completely
compatible
to
what
we're
doing.
O
O
This
is
the
tree
in
question
here.
This
is
the
accessory
structure,
next
door
neighbor,
and
that's
that
alley
now,
looking
the
other
direction,
and
that
was
that
accessory
structure
I
previously
amended
to
this
is
approximately
where
the
extractor
structure
was
on
the
alley,
though
ours
would
be
further
to
them
to
the
east.
O
Where
this
furniture
is
is
a
slab,
that
is
where
the
excess
structure
previously
used
to
be
again
we're.
Looking
looking
to
move
that
structure
away
from
the
tree
away
from
the
from
the
alley,
you
can
see
the
significant
grade,
change
between
the
alley
and
the
property.
O
O
O
O
When
doing
this,
of
course,
we
will
gutter
and
try
and
get
as
much
water
to
towards
ridgewood
as
possible,
but
the
historic
flow,
of
course,
of
the
entire
neighborhood
flows,
water
from
towards
the
river
it's
natural
flow,
and
then
this
this
alley
does
does
take
water
in
and
direct
it
in
both
directions,
both
north
and
south.
But
you
know
like,
like
everything
in
florida,
water's
going
to
go
where
to
go,
but
we
would
not
disturb
any
of
any
of
the
natural
flow
if
anything
improve
it
by
again.
O
Reducing
the
amount
of
of
of
impervious
area,
especially
close
to
the
to
the
south
part
of
the
of
the
lot
and
move
trying
to
divert
as
much
water
back
back
to
them
to
ridgewood
avenue
as
possible.
O
O
So
with
that,
I
think
we
meet
the
burden
of
hardship
and
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Okay.
That
concludes
your
presentation.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition
this
evening,
all
right,
seeing
none
any
questions
from
the
board.
C
Yeah,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
I'm
understanding
sort
of
what's
happening
here,
and
that
is
that
you
could
have
made
this
a
one-story
structure,
but
you
would
run
into
tree
problems.
You
would
run
into
setback
problems.
So,
instead
of
going
wider,
you
went
up.
A
Okay,
so
south
and
west,
on
the
other
side
of
the
on
the
other
side
of
the
alley,
correct
they're,
the
one
who
wrote
the
letter
have
you
spoken
to
the
neighbor
directly
to
the
north
of
you,
the
one
next
door.
I.
O
A
O
B
The
city
forester
is
recommending
that
the
stairway
be
moved
a
little
bit
south.
Would
you
be
opposed
to
doing
that
as
part
of
a
condition,
so
you
wouldn't
have
to
disturb
the
tree
so.
O
So
I
have
several
ideas
so
exactly
how
to
deal
with
that.
Of
course,
we'd
prefer
this
solution.
If,
if
we
can
air
spade
it
and
find
that
a
single
column
works
within
that
work
with
with
natural
resources
previously
to
and
that
sometimes
that
works,
if
it
doesn't
work
and
the
airspading
shows
it,
doesn't
it.
F
I
O
A
O
No,
I
just
think
this
is
consistent
within
the
neighborhood
and
and
it
could
be
a
benefit
to
to
not
not
only
my
client
but
but
but
then
block
at
large.
And
I
look
forward
to
your
support.
A
L
All
right,
I
moved
at
variance
request
for
a
case
vrb
22-47
for
the
property
located
at
2404
north
ridgewood
avenue.
The
grant
is
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
an
increase
in
accessory
structure
height
from
15
feet
to
22
feet,
6
inches
based
upon
applicant,
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
L
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
property
has
grand
trees
affecting
the
location
of
this
garage
accessory
structure.
Instead
of
making
a
larger
single
story,
structure,
they're
attempting
to
go
two
stories
to
save
these
grand
trees,
which
is
great
and
they
are
not
causing
any
other
health
or
safety
welfare
issues
for
the
neighborhood,
and
it
will
be
in
harmony
with
the
consistent
consistent
in
harmony
with
the
neighborhood
as
it
currently
sits.
L
D
D
D
D
I
I'm
stephen
nice
to
natural
resources,
I'm
okay
with
the
motion
I
think
at
building
during
permitting,
if
anything
needs
to
be
adjusted,
they'll
make
a
move
the
stairs,
because
the
stairs
are
not
impacting
any
of
the
setbacks.
So
I
don't
think
I
think.
A
G
This
is
zoned,
rs
75
and
the
property
owner
is
katherine
marcum
and
the
variance
request
is
to
reduce
the
rate
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
11
feet
and
the
side
yard
set
back
from
seven
feet
to
five
feet
for
an
accessory
structure,
and
the
code
section
in
reference
here
is
section
27-290
accessory
structures
with
a
gross
floor
area
greater
than
15
of
the
minimum
required
lot
size
must
make
principal
structure
setbacks.
G
G
G
And
this
is
the
site
plan
showing
the
subject
property
and
the
accessory
structure
that
is
being
proposed
with
the
setbacks,
reducing
that
setback,
because
it's
greater
than
what
will
be
allowed
by
right.
So
they
are
required
to
meet
principal
circus
setbacks
and
requesting
a
variance
for
that.
G
This
was
reviewed
by
natural
resources
and
they
initially
found
it
inconsistent.
However,
with
the
updated
site
plan
and
adverse
report,
natural
resources
has
found
them
consistent
with
conditions
that
the
grand
tree
is
actually
a
29
inch
tree.
So
it's
not
a
grand
tree
and
it's
of
c8
quality,
so
it
would
have
to
be
mitigated
and
the
tree
is
shared,
but
it
can
be
removed
with
the
neighbor's
approval
so
that
tree.
That's
to
us.
The
south
end
of
the
property
is
not
a
grand
tree,
as
initially.
G
Assessed
this
was
reviewed
by
right
away
and
found
inconsistent
with
the
comments
that
there
is
an
easement,
a
three-foot
easement
in
the
rear
of
the
property
that
could
potentially
affect
this
project.
G
A
copy
of
that
document
which
was
attached
to
the
staff
report
transportation,
reviewed
and
found
it
consistent.
We
received
no
letters
of
objection
for
this
application.
These
are
the
four
plans,
as
provided
by
the
applicant,
showing
the
first
floor
level
and
the
second
floor
level
as
well.
G
In
the
determination
of
this
variant's
request
before
the
board,
you
shall
consider
section
27-80
as
the
criteria
for
approving
a
variance
request.
If
you
do
have
any
questions,
staff
is
available
on
hand.
A
K
For
the
best
with
technology
here
today,
but
hi,
my
name's
zachary
pease,
with
ultra
custom
group,
my
office
address
is
at
5401
southdale
mabry,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
catherine
markham,
who
purchased
this
purchased
this
home
several
years
ago.
K
You
yeah
she
bought
this
home
several
years
ago
and
undertook
a
pretty
substantial
renovation
to
what
is
a
100
year
old
house,
some
of
the
hardships
that
we've
encountered.
Basically,
when
we
were
tasked
with
the
designing
of
like
a
complete
outdoor
living
space,
she
wanted
a
living
space.
You
know
first
floor
and
entertainment
area
for
adults
and,
of
course,
a
game
room
and
rec
room
above
along
with
some,
along
with
a
three-car
parking
situation.
K
There
was
an
existing
accessory
structure
used
as
a
garage,
but
it
was
fairly
dilapidated.
When
we
got
to
the
project,
we
were
asked
to
basically
redesign
that,
while
using
their
existing
pool
area,
you
know
the
pool
was,
although
in
need
of
renovation
still
suitable
and
located
in
an
appropriate
area.
K
My
design
team
went
about
drafting
several
different
designs
and
trying
to
make
this
space
work
with
all
the
aspects
that
they
were
looking
for.
However,
we
ran
into
several
issues
when
trying
to
obtain
the
grow
space
required
to
kind
of
hit
a
three-car
garage
as
well.
As
you
know,
the
outdoor
living
space
that
she
was
looking
to
obtain
along
with
the
living
quarters.
K
On
the
first
floor,
along
with
the
game
room
on
the
second,
you
know
so,
due
to
these
kind
of
constraints,
we
were
not
able
to
push
this
to
all
the
way
to
the
rear
or
all
the
way
to
the
side
as
typical
with
accessory
structures.
I
believe
in
this
zoning
district
those
side
and
rear
setbacks
are
more
like
three
rear
three
side.
K
Given
the
growth
size
of
this
structure,
you
know
we
were
kind
of
playing
with
different
ideas
of
how
we
would
move
that
structure
off
the
rear
setback
or
or
even
maintain
the
setbacks
of
the
main
dwelling,
but
due
to
the
orientation
of
the
driveway
that
exists
and
the
swimming
pool
that
exists,
which,
basically,
to
kind
of
orientate
you
with
the
driveway.
K
If
you
go
down
the
right
side
of
the
property
and
head
down,
you
drive
down
at
what
is
a
very
long
driveway,
all
the
way
to
the
back
kind
of
letting
out
into
the
rear
of
which
the
main
dwelling
and
the
property
are
about
11
foot
from
one
another,
but
there
is
like
very
dense
vegetation
that
grows
down
the
common
property
line
there.
K
So,
in
other
words,
you
know
what
I'm
really
trying
to
say
is
the
driveway
is
where
the
driveway
is.
The
pool
is
where
the
pool
is
and
the
rear
property
line
that
basically
has
kind
of,
like
a
22
degree
in
nature
kind
of
its
shape
along
the
back
kind
of
prevents
us
from
really
having
you
know
anything
to
work
with.
As
far
as
appropriating
those
sorts
of
aspects
you
know
to
to
the
rear
project,
you
know
due
to
limitations
with
like
turning
turning
car,
radiuses
and
and
things
of
that
nature.
K
You
know
that
we
were
forced
with
kind
of
designing
this,
such
that
the
garage
went
as
far
back
as
could
be
without
causing
or
with
causing
minimal
impact
to
the
to
the
rear,
utility,
easement
and
whatnot,
which
is
what
we've
done
and
then
we've
also
staggered
the
structure
to
kind
of
move
in
line
with
that.
K
So
if
you
were
to
kind
of
look
at
the
plans,
you'll
see
that
our
greatest
conflict
with
the
rear
setback
is
11
foot
and
it's
really
only
in
areas
of
the
rear,
and
I
was
hoping
I
would
be
able
to
kind
of
articulate
this
better
with
this
program.
If
there's
any
way
to
kind
of
oh
take
some
of
that
glare
off.
But
if
you
kind
of
I
don't
know,
can
you
see
this
guys
yeah.
A
K
You
know
so
at
its
worst
point,
it's
11
foot
from
the
rear
property
line,
but
at
its
best
it
can
be
closer
to
14
15
in
some
cases,
but
because
of
kind
of
the
nature
of
this
property
line
and
how
it's
orientated
and
when
you're
squaring
an
accessory
structure
up
to
a
dwelling,
that's
placed
square
on
that
property.
You
run
into
these,
where
essentially,
your
constraints
become
either
diminishing
or
increasing,
depending
on
the
direction
that
you're
going
and
that's
one
of
the
hardships
that
we're
dealing
with
here.
K
K
Obviously
I
you
know
for
its
lot
size,
which
is
close
to
18
000
square
foot,
which
is
you
know
almost
three
times
the
size
of
the
lot
size
to
which
the
minimum
standard
of
an
accessory
structure
is
being
kind
of
you
know
used.
As
you
know,
you
know
it
just
happens
to
be
that
this
structure
is
orientated
in
some
cases,
60
feet
from
the
front
property
line.
In
some
cases
greater.
You
know,
leaving
a
lesser
balance
to
kind
of
work
with
here.
K
In
the
back
I
mean,
although
the
property
is
large,
you
know
it
was
bought
with
the
intention
of
being
large
and
being
able
to
use.
You
know
this
space
to
achieve
something
like
a
detached
garage,
and
you
know
an
outdoor
living
space
that
works
nicely
with
the
pool
itself
so
stated
hardships
are,
you
know
pretty
much
as
follows?
Yes,
we
have
a
utility
easement,
that's
going
here
down
the
side
that
that
basically
impacts
the
use
of
an
actual
rear
setback
for
use
of
an
actual
accessory
structure.
K
The
meeting
of
the
you
know
most
needs
of
a
traditional
accessory
structure,
which
would
be
a
side
yard
setback
of
three
and
a
rear
yard
set
back
in
three.
However,
that's
unable
to
be
obtained
with
this
utility
easement.
So
inherently,
we
have
to
push
the
structure
forward
in
doing
so.
You
know
in
doing
so,
there's
no
chance
of
really
detaching
one
of
these
structures
from
another
in
order
to
classify
one
as
an
accessory
structure
by
traditional
standards
and
the
other
meeting
of
the
main
setback
dwellings.
K
That
kind
of
is
like
an
all-in-one
deal
that
we
feel
like
the
best
balance
is
achieved
when
you
combine
those
things
but
minimize
the
in
the
impacts
on
both
the
rear
and
the
side.
You
know,
so
we
are
meeting
of
the
main
dwelling
setback
here
on
the
right
side,
and
we
are,
you
know
we
are
asking
for
a
two
foot
relief
on
the
back
and
we
are
asking
for
what
is
essentially
a
nine
foot
relief
at
its
closest
points.
K
A
Okay,
does
that
complete
your
presentation?
I
think
so
all
right
is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
speak
about
this
petition
this
evening,
seeing
none
any
questions
from
the
board.
B
Have
questions
I
am
following
your
reason
for
the
rear
setback,
but
I'm
not
convinced
of
the
five
foot
setback
reduction
from
seven
to
five
foot,
especially
since
this
end
of
the
lot
is
not
pie
shaped.
K
So
the
reduction
at
two
feet,
which
would
be
on
the
west
side
of
the
property
line,
is
really
more
or
less
for
the
maintenance
of
the
existing
vegetation.
That's
there.
As
I
said
along
that
common
property
line,
there
is
a
thick
thickly
planted,
fishtail
palms
and
privacy
down
that
border.
So
in
order
to
kind
of
build
this
structure
and
leave
that
vegetation
in
place,
I
would
need
to
relieve
that
extra
two
foot.
Otherwise
I'd
have
to
remove
the
vegetation.
B
But
I'm
saying
the
the
setback.
K
C
K
K
So
nine
foot
three
on
on
that
side,
correct
on
this
side
right
now
we
we're
seven
foot
which
maintains.
K
You
know
corridor
that
is
an
existing
driveway
becomes
quite
difficult.
So
our
goal
was,
to
you
know,
move
this
such
that
there's
a
sufficient
turn
radius
for
a
car
to
pull
into
its
garage
on
its
way
in,
but
back
out
of
its
garage
turn
and
proceed
out
to
the
right
away
from
there
and
that's
where
some
of
these
restrictions,
if
you
were
to
kind
of,
hopefully
I'm
not
making
you
dizzy.
But
if
I
was
to
take
20
foot
off
the
mean
area
of
this.
That
becomes
the
starting
point
of
your
garage,
leaving
very
little
left.
K
B
I
see
the
the
issue
with
the
three-car
garage
and
the
parking,
and
that
dimension
needs
to
stay
that
dimension,
obviously
for
just
vehicle
requirements,
and
but
if
you
were
to
shift
that
down
two
feet
and
then
that
would
maybe
it
affect
the
other
structure,
would
you
be
willing
to
modify
that
structure.
K
I
I'm
sure
that
I'm
sure
my
clients
would
be
willing
to
modify
the
structure
if
for
their,
if
there
was
any,
you
know
a
significant
kind
of
gain
in
this.
You
know
for
them
and
it
didn't.
I
mean
we
are
truly
down
to
feet
here
as
designers
as
far
as
turning
radiuses
and
accomplishing
this,
we
are
down
to
every
foot
in
what
is
our
you
know,
strongest
foot
forward
as
far
as
a
sensible
plan
that
kind
of
meets
all
the
people
involved,
I
mean
we
are
considerate
of
jack,
the
rear
neighbor.
K
We
are
considerate
of
the
side,
neighbor,
all
of
which
have
expressed
support
for
this.
Based
on
how
it's
designed-
and
I
mean
what
we're
trying
to
avoid-
is
a
scenario
that
is
is
really
kind
of
has
less
of
the
historic
nature
of
the
house
itself
and
has
a
greater
impact
on
the
surrounding
properties.
So
I
mean
this
could
be
you
know.
One
design
that
was
proposed
to
me
is:
we
could
just
basically
still
the
house
and
build
a
three
car
or
build
a
three
story
in
this.
You
know
and
all
the
cars
could
park
underneath.
K
Well,
you
know,
obviously
that's
you
know,
although
it
meets
the
side
and
the
rear
setback
of
the
main
dwelling,
it
becomes
a
greater
impact
to
the
aesthetic
of
the
surrounding
properties
and
as
well
as
the
aesthetic
of
my
clients,
property,
you
know.
So
what
they're
looking
to
do
is
you
know,
build
themselves,
something
that
you
know
has
the
sentiment
of
the
of
the
historic
house
that
they
built
you
know
and
so.
C
B
K
I
mean
really
what
it
came
down
to
was
so
what
it
really
came
down
to
was
just
that
you
know
we
want
to
be
able
to
fit
what
is
a
minimum
like
a
minimum
three-car
garage,
you'll
notice,
this
isn't
a
two-car
with
a
single
car
garage.
This
is
an
actual
three-car
garage
door
because
there
is
simply
no
room
to
do
a
two-car
with
a
single
car,
because
the
petition
of
block
in
between
them
will
basically
exceed
that
of
being
able
to
actually
work.
K
So
I
mean
we're
not
trying
to
use
up
all
the
space
of
this
lot
on
the
grounds
that
we're
heart
we're
not
even
using
up
two-thirds
of
it
with
the
whole
project.
It's
just
the
way
everything
is
orientated,
creates
you
know
serious
limitations
as
to
how
one
is
able
to
maneuver
a
car
in
and
out
of
that
and
deal
with.
K
You
know-
and
you
know
if
you
want
your
driveway
on
the
right
side
of
this
property
where
it
is
and
has
always
been,
and
you
want
you
know
a
car,
then
there's
there's
just
these
are
kind
of
the
the
impacts
that
are
inherent
in
that
and
we're.
We
we
are
truly
trying
to
do
this
in
a
minimally
evasive
way
that
you
know
that
kind
of
satisfies
what
the
clients
are
looking
for
and.
L
K
True,
but
it
it's
more
or
less
the
aesthetic
that
we're
looking
to
achieve.
So
if
this
was
a
three-story
building
with
you
know,
with
a
with
parking
on
the
first
floor
that
you
would
drive
into
that,
would
meet
the
that
would
meet
this.
You
know
rear
setback
and
allow
for
rooms,
for
you
know,
vehicles
to
turn
around
and
you
know
be
a
permittable
structure,
but,
frankly,
wouldn't
look.
K
This
wouldn't
look
like
this.
You
know
I
mean
this.
This
is
an
existing
balcony.
This
is
an
existing
balcony
or
this
is
the
balcony
proposed.
You
know
we
want
the
sentiment
of
this
house
to
be
exhibited
in
the
accessory
structure,
we're
building
and
that's
more
what
I
was
referring
to
it's
a
modernized
version
of
a
100
year
old
house.
L
D
L
It's
you
know,
but
it's
perfect
for
your
bike
or
your
unused
treadmill
or
whatever
yeah.
K
K
You
know
to
to
obtain
this,
and
you
know
I
I
try
to
find
the
balance
that
best
achieves
that
but
satisfies
you
know
the
interest
of
the
community.
You
know.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
the
board.
A
All
right,
you
have
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
It's
just.
C
I'll
have
a
question
for
legal
based
on
the
discussion
that
we're
having
it
sounds
like
a
bifurcated
motion
might
make
sense
here,
as
opposed
to
an
emotion
with
a
condition.
D
C
A
All
right
so,
who
would
like
to
make
the
motion
with
that
understanding.
B
I
can
make
it,
but
I
have
a
question
about
it:
okay,
so
what
what
so
do?
I
do
it
with
the
condition.
A
No,
so
what
what
they're
suggesting
would
be
a
motion
to
you
do
two
motions.
The
first
motion
would
be
to
approve
the
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
to
11
period.
Okay,.
A
The
second
motion
would
be:
if
you
did
not
want
to
approve
it,
you
would
move
to
to
deny
the
seven
to
five,
and
then
we
could
vote
on
that.
If
you're
going
to
make
the
motion.
A
A
B
South
bay
side
drive
be
granted
as
depicted
on
the
site
plan
presented
at
the
public
hearing
for
a
reduction
of
the
rear
yard
setback
from
20
feet
to
11
feet
based
on
the
applicant,
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty.
When
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
27-80
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
this
is
a
pie,
shaped
lot,
which
kind
of
restricts
the
rear
use
of
a
dwelling
accessory
dwelling
unit,
and
there
is
present
utility
easement
as
well.
A
B
B
A
L
A
L
A
And
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
say
aye,
all
those
opposed
all
right,
so
your
rear
yard
setback
was
approved.
Your
side
yard
setback
from
seven
to
five
was
denied,
meaning
that
you
got
to
meet
side
yard
setbacks.
If
you
should
choose
to
appeal,
you
can
always
appeal
to
the
city
council
on
the
denied
portion
and
other
than
that
have
a
great
evening.
G
All
right,
the
next
case
before
the
board
is
vrb
2249.
This
is
addressed
at
4713,
west
neptune
street.
This
is
zoned
rs,
75,
residential
single
family,
the
property
owner.
Our
property
owners
are
david
and
kimberly
monicello,
and
the
variance
request
before
the
board
tonight
is
to
reduce
the
coronary
arts
setback
from
15
feet
to
10.3
feet.
For
a
pole,
and
the
code
section
in
reference
is
section
27-290.3,
in-ground
swimming
pool
shall
be
located
no
closer
to
the
corner
lot
line
than
the
corner
yard
setback.
G
G
This
is
the
site
plan
that
the
applicant
has
shown
has
provided,
showing
the
proposed
pool
and
the
setbacks
that
I
proposed
for
this
pool
and,
as
the
code
says,
that
they
have
to
make
that
corner
lot
line
corner
setback
at
this
point.
They
are
at
10
feet
and
three
10.3
feet,
and
they
are
required
to
be
at
seven
at
fifteen.
G
I
full
tries
this
was
reviewed
by
right
away
and
it
was
found
consistent
with
comment
that
they
appear
to
be
outside
a
7.5
foot,
platted
utility
easement
on
the
north
side
of
the
property.
So
they
are
in
the
clear
natural
resources
reviewed
this
and
found
it
inconsistent
with
technical
codes
and
standards,
and
the
comment
that
the
pool
shall
be
a
minimum
of
17
feet
away
from
the
face
of
an
off-site
grand
tree
root
pruning
shall
be
completed
by
an
isa
certified
arborist.
G
The
pool
deck
can
be
on
grade
to
the
easement
line.
If
the
pool
is
currently
at
a
distance
requested
that
they
provide
a
dimensional
line-
and
this
is
showing
in
greater
detail
that
pull
and
setbacks
as
they
are
proposed,.
P
G
A
Good
question
all
right
help
me
orient
sure
if
this
wasn't
a
corner
lot,
what
is
the
setback
for
a
pool.
A
K
K
Okay,
this
is
on
a
ongoing
construction
project,
so
this
po,
this
pool
had
been
permitted
essentially
and
upon
so
this
had
been
permitted
and
all
of
the
issues
brought
up
by
natural
resources,
etc
have
been
addressed
in
the
active
permit.
That's
on
this
job
now
the
issue
that
we're
running
into
here
comes
down
to
both
inaccuracies
in
the
site
survey
that
was
provided
by
the
homeowner
in
basically
an
impossibility
of
to
maintain
15
foot.
Well,
not
an
impossibility,
but
the
dwelling
itself
does
not
maintain
15
foot
from
the
side.
K
What
happens
here
in
this
particular
situation
is
while
the
front
corner
maintains
its
15-2
as
it
proceeds
to
the
rear
of
the
property
line.
It
starts
to
pinch
against
the
property
line
and
really
works
out
to
be
more
like
14
foot.
Here
now,
this
pool
is
slated
to
get
a
screen
enclosure
because
it
requires
one
because
of
the
utility,
both
the
utility
line
and
easement.
That's
in
the
rear
of
this
property,
along
here
on
the
north
side
of
the
property
line.
K
There
is
a
a
power
line
that
is
basically
within
a
plum
drop
of
10
foot
from
water's
edge
of
this
proposed
swimming
pool.
K
So
now,
in
a
particular
in
this
particular
project,
we
are
so
tight
already
and
so
constraint
to
the
existing
house
and
the
existing
dwelling
and
whatnot
with
this
little
design
that,
in
order
to
shrink
the
swimming
pool
and
maintain
in
line
with
this,
would
ultimately
you
know
you
know
and
keep
all
the
kind
of
the
aspects
that
make
a
small
plunge
pool
like
this
nice.
You
know
you're
it.
K
So
when
brought
up
to
the
homeowner
that
this
was
a
potential
avenue
that
we
could
pursue
and
be
granted
this
additional
two
and
a
half
feet
to
keep
the
pool
the
length
that
we
had
originally
decided
on,
they
said:
let's
go
for
it.
I
said
it
might
be
a
while
they
said
well,
let's
go
for
it.
So
here
we
are
and
again
and
as
been
pointed
out
before
typical
side
and
rear
setbacks
are
five
and
five
on
both
these
screen.
K
Enclosures,
just
just
the
neighboring
property
here,
just
in
has
five
and
five
there's
several
other
properties
along
west
shore
that
have
been
able
to
build
within
five
foot
of
the
five
foot
of
the
property
line.
It's
just
comes
down
to
being
on
a
corner
lot
jane.
One
of
the
reasons
I
took
that
photo
and
sent
that
last
photo
was
if
there
was
any
question
as
to
the
distance
or
the
the
distance
between
west
shore
that
culver
and
the
the
cmu
wall.
K
You
know
that
exist
along
the
property
line,
the
concrete
wall,
if
there
was
any
fear
that
it
was
in
that,
if
this
was
you
know,
this
separation
was
used
as
a
means
to
keep
people
distanced
from
you
know:
high
traffic
streets.
K
You
can
see
that
there
is,
you
know,
29
or
you
know,
29
foot
from
the
roadway
plus
a
concrete
wall,
plus
the
15
being
reduced
to
10
and
a
concrete
you
know
screen
along
with
a
screen
enclosure
as
sufficient
barrier
to
protect
any
like
oncoming
traffic
as
good
as
I've
seen
now,
solutions
that
could
have
made
this
pool
bigger.
If
not
for
this
grand
tree
here
and,
of
course,
that
power
line,
of
course,
the
power
line
itself.
It's
really
its
location
on
the
property
line
that
makes
it
distance.
K
If
it
was
right
on
the
actual
property
line,
then
sure
I
might
be
able
to
push
out
the
screen
enclosure
and
gain
some
space.
Inside
of
this
area,
but
ultimately
these
folks
just
want
to
have
a
very
small,
quaint,
but
designer
living
space
with
a
lot
of
these
aspects
be
able
to
walk
around
their
swimming
pool
and
be
able
to.
You
know,
walk
around
and
clean
their
swimming
pool
and
that's
what
really
was
the
catalyst
to
having
this
meeting
so.
A
Does
that
conclude
your
presentation?
It
does
all
right
I'll,
open
it
up.
Is
there
any
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wish
to
speak
about
this
petition,
seeing
none
I'll
open
it
up
for
board
questions?
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment.
I
think
it's
really
cool
that
your
trees
sway
in
your
graphic.
I
was
gonna.
I
was
gonna
snarkily
say
that
I
was
a
little
disappointed
that
the
pool
doesn't
ripple,
but
when
you
zoomed
in
it
totally
dies.
A
K
A
Okay.
Well,
then,
with
that
I
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
open
it
up
for
a
motion
from
the
board.
C
C
Additionally,
the
this
won't
interfere
with
the
safe
with
the
health,
safety
or
welfare.
There's
a
concrete
wall
that
blocks.
You
know
the
major
road,
that's
adjacent
to
the
property,
and
that
makes
it
feel
less
like
a
corner
lot.
A
All
right,
we
have
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second.
L
A
G
G
They
have
an
active
building
permit
for
the
carport
and
code
and
complain
permits
well
not
permits
cases
that
are
open
for
that
large
metal
carport.
This
is
a
site
plan
that
the
applicant
has
provided.
G
G
G
The
property
needs
to
meet
the
green
space
requirement.
The
rare
yard
looks
to
seems
paved
and
they
need
to
provide
calculations
for
the
green
space
or
how
they'll
be
meeting
that
25.
If
they
haven't
met
it.
G
This
is
what
would
be
the
structural
drawings
for
that
carport
that
the
applicant
has
provided
and
there's
a
picture
showing
the
carport
as
it
currently
exists,
and
this
is
for
parking
recreational
vehicle.
G
G
And
if,
in
the
determination
of
this
variance
request
on
the
board,
shall
consider
section
27-80
as
the
criteria
for
approving
a
variance
request.
And
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
am
available
in
hand
to
answer
as
needed.
A
Yes,
you've
been
sworn
okay
and
then
it
has
been
pointed
out
that
you
were
not
here
for
the
explanation
that
we
gave
about
the
ability
to
obtain
a
continuance
if
you
so
choose.
M
N
P
A
P
A
D
I
F
F
F
M
N
M
N
N
F
N
P
Understand
that
the
code
and
the
regulations
now
we
understand
that
now,
that
is,
that
amount
of
food
from
one
side
or
the
back.
We
clearly
understand
that.
But
the
point
is
that,
because
it's
the
metal
structure
that
we
now
find
out
is
that
we
invest
in
that
metal
structure
a
lot
of
money,
so
we
thought
that
is
not
a
requirement
for
like
he
said
for,
like
a
certain
fit
and
like
he
said
we
are.
I
spoke.
We
are
the
oldest
neighbor
in
in
that
area
and
we
spoke
even
with
a
neighbor
across
the
street.
P
That
is
nothing
related.
We
are
with
the
with
the
metal
porch
and
we
spoke
with
the
directive
person
next
to
us
and
the
back
and
they
already
wrote
letter
each
of
them
to
provide
you
guys.
I
have
a
copy
of
those
that
that
doesn't
affect
them
at
all,
and
they
agree
before
that.
We
installed
that
I
mean
they
said.
P
That's
no
problem,
I
mean
it's
nothing
that
affected
and
at
the
same
time
we
noticed
and
they
noticed
things
we
installed,
that
it
was
a
lot
of
condition
of
the
weather,
winds,
hates
and
a
lot
of
rain
heavy
rain
and
doesn't
affect
at
all
to
the
neighbor
needed
to
the
back
neighbor
and
of
course
it
doesn't
affect
neither
to
the
visions
or
the
assistance
or
the
ambiance
for
the
neighbor
or
the
area,
and
you
know
is.
P
I
understand
that
rb
is
a
condition
like
a
luxury,
but
in
our
case
we
bought
it
because
our
daughter
used
to
be
a
city
of
tampa
recreation,
gymnastic
athletes,
she
always
traveled
to
outside
of
the
of
the
state,
bringing
a
lot
of
metal
to
the
city
of
tampa
yeah
gymnastics.
So
we
are
spending
a
lot
of
money
at
the
beginning,
paying
hotels.
So
that's
where
we
bought
the
rb.
It's
not
to
be
honest
with
you
at
this
point.
We
almost
don't
use
it.
I
mean
we.
P
P
We
noticed
that
a
lot
of
neighbor.
We
have
also
pictures
around
that
have
a
kind,
the
same
meta
porsche
in
the
kind
saying
a
circumstance
at
us
and
we
spoke
with
them
and
they
said,
there's
no
problem
at
all.
Nobody
bothered
him.
I
mean
for
that
reason
say
I
mean
like
try
to
understand
our
position.
A
A
A
If
you
can
show
it,
you
can
include
it
absolutely.
Please.
A
A
P
M
C
M
A
Yeah,
which,
where
relatively,
is
that
just
like
right
across
the
street.
P
A
That's
helpful.
Thank
you.
Is
there
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
include
in
your
presentation.
P
N
P
P
A
Okay,
thank
you.
If
that
concludes
your
presentation,
I'll
ask
if
there's
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wants
to
speak
about
this
petition,
but
since
it's
only
staffed
back
there,
I'm
going
to
say
that's,
probably
a
no,
so
I
will
open
it
up
for
any
questions
from
the
board.
The
board
have
any
questions.
L
N
N
M
L
L
B
F
A
Right
that
when
you
call
something
a
carport,
it
makes
sense,
but
it's
better
to
put
the
condition
in
there
so
that
it's
obvious,
because
when
20
years
from
now,
when
staff
is
reviewing
it,
it's
there
would.
P
M
N
P
A
Okay,
all
right
any
other
questions
all
right,
seeing
none!
No,
you
have
an
additional
five
minutes
for
any
rebuttal
or
anything
else.
You
want
to
add.
P
A
B
That
said,
variants
as
conditioned
be
granted
based
upon
the
applicant
presenting
competent
and
substantial
evidence
in
the
record
and
at
this
public
hearing
of
an
unnecessary
hardship
or
practical
difficulty
when
considering
the
five
hardship
criteria
set
forth
in
section
2780
of
the
city
code,
specifically
that
the
existing
footprint
of
the
house
and
an
existing
building
limits,
the
use
of
the
side
side
setbacks
on
the
property.
B
Also,
this
carport
enclosure
is
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
character
and
there
have
been
no
objections
by
the
immediate
neighbors.