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From YouTube: Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - April 25, 2023
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Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - 4/25/23
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A
Like
to
move
to
item
seven
request
for
any
continuance
of
the
public
hearing
or
a
agendized
item,
I
have
announced,
though,
that
item
14a
for
the
fiscal
year
2023-24
community
events,
Grant
recommendations
will
be
moved
up
and
heard
after
the
consent
calendar.
So
my
request
of
my
fellow
council
members.
A
Our
first
presentation
is
from
Claire
grasty
public
transit
director
of
the
Ventura
County
Transit
Transportation
committee
Claire
has
an
update
on
the
county-wide
transit
integration
and
efficiencies
study,
which
is
looking
at
various
issues
and
options
to
improve
public
transit
services
in
the
county.
Welcome
Claire.
D
Thank
you,
so
I'll
just
give
a
little
bit
of
background
on
what
Ventura
County
Transportation
Commission
is.
We
are
the
regional
transportation
planning
agency.
I
know
that
blue
is
a
little
hard
to
read.
We
oversee
public
transit,
including
the
the
Ventura
County
inner
city
bus
service,
as
well
as
a
valley
express
service,
we're
a
member
agencies
of
Metrolink
of
the
sorry
of
low
sand,
which
is
the
Pacific
surfliner
Service.
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We
oversee
motorist
Aid,
including
this
freeway
service,
Patrol,
federal
and
state
granting
Grant
programming,
Transit
and
transportation,
programming,
active
Transportation,
Planning
sustainability
for
planning
and
also
the
Santa
Paula
Branch
line,
so
I
just
want
to
get
into
why
we
are
studying
integration.
This
was
initiated
by
the
Commission
in
the
summer
of
2020
as
a
result
of
the
impact
of
the
pandemic
on
public
transit,
as
well
as
a
ridership
that
had
been
declining
prior
to
the
pandemic.
Since
we've
studied
started,
the
study
challenges
have
only
increased,
such
as
driver
shortages
and
staff
shortages.
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A
little
bit
of
background.
A
similar
study
was
concluded
in
2012.
Some
changes
since
then
was
the
formation
of
the
Gold
Coast
transit
district
and
the
East
County
Transit
Alliance,
which
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
is
a
Fiscal
Agent
of,
and
member
of
additionally
there's
been
significant,
increased
collaboration,
such
as
on
the
transportation
emergency
preparedness
plan
and
numerous
Tech
projects
throughout
the
county.
D
The
current
study
began
in
2021
and
since
then
we
have
examined
data
for
all
the
transit
operators
in
Ventura
County
held
operator
working
group
sessions
interviewed
Commissioners,
as
well
as
city
managers
and
staff.
We
coordinated
with
the
coordinated
plan
which
has
since
completed
and
held
focus
group
and
Outreach
groups
for
critical
writer
groups.
D
Sorry,
so
what
are
the
issues
that
really
led
to
this?
Why
we're
doing
this?
So
there
are
nine
different
Transit
operators
in
the
county
and
as
such,
there
isn't.
A
strong
Regional
Network
though
Regional
trips
are
just
have
increased
over
time.
So
because
of
this,
it
can
be
hard
to
get
to
City
to
city
and
there's
differing
policies
for
all
of
the
operators,
and
so,
if
you're,
using
one
getting
to
the
next,
can
be
confusing
and
difficult
to
navigate
for
passengers.
D
So
as
part
of
the
ties,
three
Alternatives
were
determined,
ranging
from
Mostly
collaborative
for
the
alternative
one
partial
consolidation
among
functional
boundaries
for
alternative
two
and
full
consolidation
into
one
single
agency
alternative
three.
So
a
bit
of
comparison
between
them
is
alternative.
One
is
the
easiest
to
do,
but
has
less
benefit
overall,
but
it
does
protect.
D
Some
issues
and
concerns
that
have
been
brought
up
through
the
process
from
the
transit
operators
are
the
issue
of
funding,
which
is
a
bit
uncertain.
It's
been
hard
to
determine
at
this
stage
exactly
what
the
impact
and
the
cost
would
be.
That
would
need
to
be
determined
in
a
later
stage,
also
the
potential
loss
of
those
TDA
funds
for
certain
agencies.
D
Something
else
has
come
up
is
it
could
be
potentially
harder
for
a
large
agency
to
respond
to
the
needs
of
the
community,
which
has
been
identified
as
a
strength
of
the
current
system,
and
then
we've
heard
from
every
agency
that
we
don't
want
to
see
any
service
decreased
in
their
area
and,
of
course,
that's
a
reasonable
concern.
We
don't
expect
that
to
happen.
That's
certainly
not
the
intention
of
this
study
and
we
we
know
everyone
feels
that
way.
D
A
You
so
much
for
your
effort
in
this
area.
It
ties
very
nicely
with
increased
Rapid,
Transit
and
efficient
transit
to
help
address
our
climate
goals
as
well.
So,
thank
you
so
much
great.
Thank
you
for
having
me
I'd
like
to
welcome
Eric
sternad
executive
director
of
interface,
Children
and
Family
Services
to
share
the
work.
Interface
has
been
doing
on
their
2-1-1
Department,
along
with
Services.
They
offer
to
Thousand
Oaks
residents.
E
You
mayor,
thank
you,
council
members
and
city
manager.
Powers
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
share
with
you
about
your
2-1-1,
so
2-1-1
Ventura
is
a
easy
to
remember.
Three-Digit
telephone
number.
Anyone
in
the
community
can
call
us
24
hours
a
day,
looking
for
any
kind
of
Health
and
Human
Services
that
are
offered
in
our
County.
We
catalog
all
of
the
non-profit,
Services,
all
the
County
Services,
even
some
from
Faith
groups
and
and
Healthcare
organizations,
so
that
it's
one
easy
to
find
location
for
information.
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E
Just
shy
of
1700
folks
called
into
2-1-1
about
556
of
those
were
new
callers.
Mostly
people
are
hearing
about
2-1-1
from
a
friend
or
family
member
who's
used.
It
found
out
about
it,
tells
a
friend.
So
that's
something
that
we
can
all
do.
You
can
see
that
134
called
who
were
at
risk
of
becoming
homeless
and
that's
a
key
demographic
where
we
want
to
try
to
prevent
that
from
happening,
obviously
240
already
homeless,
by
the
time
they
called
2-1-1.
So
the
next
slide
gives
you
again
just
a
visual
breakdown.
E
You
could
see
in
the
top
left
there.
Housing
is
the
number
one
need
Far
and
Away.
This
has
been
true
for
over
a
decade
in
in
the
in
your
city
here,
but
also
in
cities
across
the
county.
Although
the
difference
between
the
number
one
ranking
and
all
the
rest
has
gotten
more
and
more
Stark
over
time,
so
definitely
that
need
is
accelerated
and
you
could
see
some
of
the
subcategories
that
make
up
the
hundred
categories
that
we
collect
as
a
way
to
categorize
this
data.
E
If
your
city
is
looking
for
good
information
to
to
look
at
in
terms
of
what
the
public
is
actually
asking
for,
2-1-1
isn't
your
only
source
of
data,
but
it's
a
really
good
survey
of
1700
people
who
are
looking
for
help
in
your
city
and
we're
happy
to
help
you
sort
through
that.
If
that
would
be
of
benefit
because
2-1-1
is
an
easy
way
to
for,
for
the
public
to
gain
information
about
help.
We
have
been
sought
out
for
and
have
pursued
a
number
of
Special
Projects.
E
So
that's
really
an
interesting
finding
and
I
think
it
again
is
because
of
the
easy
nature
of
folks
being
able
to
reach
2-1-1
our
shop
actually
sourced
a
Statewide
contract
with
Southern
California,
Edison
and
PG
e
to
provide
support
to
families
affected
during
the
public
safety
power
shutoffs,
and
now
the
utilities
were
so
happy
with
how
that's
gone
in
the
first
year,
they're
expanding
that
out
into
any
Hazard.
That
would
turn
off
the
power
for
a
family.
So
we
think
about
the
atmos
spheric
Rivers.
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E
211
is
very
active
during
disasters
and
so
you'll
see
we
were
very
active
during
Thomas
fire,
the
borderline
incident,
the
the
public
safety
power,
shutoffs
I
mentioned
campfire
Route
91.
These
were
all
these
are
all
disasters
or
traumatic
community
events.
Where
2-1-1
was
really
helpful
to
the
public,
and
so
that's
something
we
always
want
to
encourage
folks
to
be
aware
of.
E
If,
if
heaven
forbid,
there
is
a
fire
outbreak
in
in
the
City
2-1-1
Works
very
closely
with
the
sheriff's
department
and
the
office
of
emergency
services,
we
only
give
out
vetted
information.
That's
been
approved
by
them
to
release
to
the
public
and
folks
can
find
information
on
road
closures,
school
closures,
shelter,
locations
Etc,
so
we
are
going
to
be
your
partner
and
because
2-1-1
at
interface
is
providing
services
for
34
counties
in
California,
we're
covering
about
a
a
third
of
the
entire
State's
traffic
for
2-1-1.
E
The
deal
we
have
is
that,
if
anybody's
in
emergency
they
get
all
of
those
resources.
So
if
we
have
a
local
emergency,
then
all
of
those
70
staff
will
be
deployed
immediately
to
provide
the
service
that
we
need
here.
So
that's
a
pretty
good
deal
that
you
don't
pay
for
every
day.
So
this
is
just
a
quick
picture
of
our
amazing
two-in-one
team.
E
That's
there
Christmas
Eve
and
New
Year's,
Eve
and
and
and
all
hours
of
the
day
and
night
to
be
here
for
our
community
and
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have,
or
here's
some
contact,
information
and
we'd
be
happy
to
to
work
with
you
on
any
kind
of
projects
where
you
think
that
two
on
one
or
our
data
may
be
helpful
for
you.
Eric.
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E
A
C
This
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
15
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
A
And
again,
I
want
to
reiterate
that
you
have
three
minutes.
Please
conclude
out
three
minutes
as
a
courtesy,
I'll,
let
you
know
at
15
seconds,
I'll
just
simply
say
15
seconds.
So
that
way
you
can
start
winding
up
your
thoughts.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
call
the
first
person
up
to
the
podium
and
then
the
next
name
sit
behind
in
one
of
the
open
seats.
So
that
way
it's
easy
to
transition
up
for
the
next
Now
call
the
next
speaker
up.
A
F
As
of
September
1st,
which
would
possibly
kick
us
out,
cause
us
to
be
homeless
and
it's
a
form
of
elder
abuse,
which
is
defined
in
the
Ventura
County
State
resource
booklet
that
it
includes
emotional
abuse-
and
this
is
our
ongoing
fear
that,
as
a
family
part,
our
rents
will
be
raised,
forcing
seniors
to
become
homeless
or
move
out
for
so
many
living
on
Social
Security
such
as
myself
and
the
rest
of
us.
This
is
really
devastating.
F
This
park
has
always
been
a
senior
Park.
Residents
are
sharing
that
they're
having
trouble
sleeping,
they're
now
anxious
and
depressed
over
this
change
in
the
mrl
that
will
become
effective,
September
1st.
If
they
have
their
way,
we
have
several
octogenarians
living
on
fixed
income
who
are
struggling
to
pay
for
food
since
the
else
and
the
the
outrageous
recent
utility
increases
have
not
helped.
F
A
G
You
Mr
Mayor
city
council
people,
my
name
is
Mark
weeman
I've
lived
at
Ranch,
Mobile
Home
Park,
for
going
on
eight
years,
I
bought
in
there,
because
it's
a
very
quiet,
senior,
Park,
I
work
nights.
It's
so
there's
some
selfishness
there,
because
it
is
very
quiet.
The
homes
are
built
right
on
top
of
each
other,
I
mean
they're
literally
feet
apart,
there's
no
playgrounds,
there's
no
pools
the
streets
are
very
poorly
maintained
and
the
there's
really
nowhere
for
a
kid
to
play.
G
So
the
idea
of
opening
up
to
a
family
park
is
just
it's
a
nightmare
waiting
to
happen
of
all
these
70
and
80
year,
old
people
getting
around
in
their
their
handicapped,
strollers
and
and
whatnot,
and
all
of
a
sudden
you're
gonna
have
skateboarders
and
bikes
and
tricycles
in
there
on
these
itty
bitty
little
streets
and
I
know
it's
been
mandated
before
that
it
would
remain
a
senior
Park
and
I
just
want
the
city
council
to
push
that
through
again.
Please
thank
you.
A
H
Evening,
mayor
council
and
staff,
my
name
is
George
Rosenthal
I'm,
a
retired
optometrist
and
my
wife
and
I
have
lived
in
vento
Estates,
not
the
ranch
for
three
years.
It's
an
affordable
place
with
great
neighbors
and
amenities,
and
with
talking
with
several
people
that
the
situation
with
the
ranch
might
be
at
a
state
level,
not
a
council
level,
but
the
council
should
be
looking
out
for
the
people
at
the
ranch.
H
By
dealing
with
the
state
reps,
the
owner
of
the
Ranch
Mobile
Home
Park,
sent
out
a
notice
that
he
was
seeking
to
change
the
Thousand
Oaks
Council
situation
and
change
the
charter
to
become
a
family
park.
That
law
has
changed.
It
will
open
up
the
ability
for
other
parks
to
change.
We
purchased
our
home
with
a
covenant
for
age
55,
plus
we
and
all
the
residents
did
so
for
limited
noise,
limited
traffic
and
privacy
senior
mobile
homes
are
not
set
up
for
three
to
four
cars
per
unit.
H
Close
proximity
to
each
other
with
noise
and
dangerous
traffic
seniors
would
be
forced
out
due
to
noise
and
mental
stress.
In
fact,
we
know
some
people
who
left
a
family
park.
They
were
in
to
get
to
our
Park
just
because
they
couldn't
handle
the
situation
in
the
past.
25
senior
mobile
homes
have
changed
hands
through
normal
circumstances
in
the
Ventura
Villa
Estates.
That
could
mean
a
minimum
of
25
less
units
for
seniors
every
year.
Why?
H
Because
multiple
income
families
will
outbid
Social
Security
single
income
seniors
to
pay
a
higher
price
because
they
can't
afford
800
000
for
a
home,
but
they
would
move
into
our
parks.
Affordable,
living
and
opportunities
for
seniors
would
collapse
because
they
would
be
sucked
up
by
people
trying
to
get
away
from
the
super
high
housing
prices,
Thousand
Oaks
Prides
itself
on
affordable
living
units,
and
this
will
change
permanently
and
permanently
damage
the
ability
for
seniors
to
call
Thousand
Oaks
their
home
with
high
inflation.
We
want
Thousand
Oaks
to
be
a
home
for
affordable
living.
A
I
I
I
My
friend
hetta,
who
lives
at
the
park,
is
96
years
old
and
she
called
me
this
morning
by
the
way
she
is
from
Germany
and
has
quite
a
story
to
tell
that
may
interest
all
of
you.
But
she
called
this
morning
and
she
said
in
a
very
weak
voice:
I
want
to
come
to
the
city
council
meeting
tonight
and
I.
It
will
be
a
struggle
and
I
said
you,
you
will
not
come
it
wouldn't
be
safe
for
you
to
come
because
I
don't
know
how
many
people
are
going
to
be
here.
I
I
A
J
Hi,
how
are
you
this
evening?
The
mayor
and
councilman
I'm
Brian
Scott
I
live
at
The,
Ranch,
Mobile,
Home
Park,
and
it's
very
important
that
we
keep
that
as
a
senior
citizen
part
A
lot
of
the
people
that
live
there.
They've
only
got
two
options:
they
lived
there
until
they
die
or
they're
going
to
be
or
they'll
become
homeless.
J
The
management
the
park
has
been
taken
over
by
a
new
management
company.
They
set
up
their
own
company
to
monitor
the
park
as
an
example,
they
have
a
game
plan
and,
as
an
example
in
November
I
was
charged
in
extra
300
on
my
electrical
bill.
When
my
electrical
bill
is
normally
only
about
60
or
70
bucks,
I
wasn't
even
there.
For
the
four
or
four
weeks
of
the
month,
they've
sent
me
a
360
day
notice.
J
They
say
it
was
a
mistake
done
by
the
manager.
The
manager
has
never
made
a
mistake.
They
say
that
there's
there's
some
other
sort
of
issue.
I
call
them
up,
they
won't
respond.
I
have
to
pay
three
dollars
if
I
email
them
per
email
and
what
are
my
options?
I
had
to
pay
it
or
I.
Go
get
a
lawyer
and
that's
going
to
cost
me
a
lot
of
money.
That's
a
lot
of
anxiety.
J
I
put
it
off
because
it
was
just
before
Christmas
I
didn't
want
to
deal
with
it.
I
went
back
East
to
ski,
with
my
granddaughter
I
paid
the
bills
other
all
my
all.
My
rent
was
paid
all
my
electrical
except
for
that
increase.
They
won't
talk
to
us.
They
won't
negotiate
with
us.
They
have
a
game
plan.
They
want
to
get
you
out
of
the
park,
so
they
can
flip
your
site.
We
own
the
trailers,
we
own
the
buildings
on
the
site.
We
pay
the
rent,
they
want
to
get
us
out.
It's
a
game
plan.
J
J
We
can't
all
afford
lawyers.
He
has
definitely
got
a
game
plan.
It
seems,
like
everybody's,
got
a
game
plan
these
days.
How
do
you
overthrow
a
government?
How
you
overthrow
a
country
he's
out
to
make
money?
He
doesn't
care
about
us
at
all
and
we
need
your
help.
We
need
some
Advocates
on
our
side,
so
I
would
appreciate
it,
for
whatever
you
can
do
for
us
would
be
appreciated.
Thank
you.
A
K
Hi
I'm
Kathy
Hodge
good
evening
and
good
evening
mayor
and
our
city
council
members
and
our
City
attorney
I'm
so
proud
to
speak
to
the
council,
because
I've
lived
in
Thousand
Oaks
for
years
now
and
I've
lived
at
Ranch,
Mobile,
Home
Park
for
eight
years
and
I
lived
in
in
Westlake
Village.
Prior
to
that
this
is
a
beautiful
area
and
truly
wonderful
to
live
here,
and
the
planning
that
goes
into
the
community
is
really
obvious.
I
mean
you
live
here.
You
just.
K
You
know
that
there's
there's
planning
and
brains
behind
a
lot
of
what
is
going
on:
I
I
living
in
Ranch,
Mobile,
Home,
Park,
it's
a
senior
Park
and
that's
how
I
bought
it.
That's
what
it
was
designated
as,
and
there
were
covenants
in
place
that
such
that
I
took
over
the
rent
of
the
person
that
I
bought
it
from,
because
that
was
a
special
arrangement
with
the
city.
K
At
that
time.
Those
covenants
obviously
have
a
starting
date
and
an
end
date.
I,
don't
know
what
they
are,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
remains
and
I
want
to
Echo.
What
Carol
Claussen
said
is
that
the
the
Department
of
Housing
and
Community
Development
oversees
the
laws
and
regulations
about
mobile
home
parks
and
those
laws
and
regulations
include
a
clause
that
gives
you
the
city
council,
a
special
magic
power.
K
Think
one
of
the
people
who
spoke
before
explained
very
well
why
the
property
values
the
rents
Etc
can
be
harder
to
negotiate
and
deal
with
if
you're
in
a
general
Park
and
your
home
is
a
special
kind
of
property.
That's
not
the
same.
Obviously,
as
a
car
or
something
it's
it's
where
you
live
and
I
would
really
ask
you
to
exercise
your
power
I.
K
Also
I,
believe
you
might
want
to
look
into
the
the
owner
that
took
over
as
Harmony
it's
not
the
same
as
Harmony
Homes
and
candidates,
a
different
group,
and
they
have
a
history
with
mobile
home
parks.
That's
rather
disturbing
in
the
sense
of
displacing
people
and
their
gruffness
with
some
of
our
people.
Who've
made
a
mistake
in
their
brand
or
seemingly
even
when
they've
made
a
mistake,
it's
it's
kind
of
an
odd
departure
from
the
the
prior
owners
and
and
management,
and
it's
it's.
It's
pretty
disturbing.
Thank.
L
L
So
we
are
asking
you
to
use
your
Authority
and
to
help
mandate
and
say
and
save
us
and
state
that
it
is
a
senior
Park
so
that
they
can't
change
that
land
use
you're
our
last
stop
and
we
know
you
have
the
authority
to
do
it,
we're
just
asking
for
your
help
to
keep
it
a
senior
built,
and
we
plead
for
you
to
give
us
some
help.
Thank
you.
Thank.
M
I
would
like
to
ask
you
to
help
us
bring
our
park
into
ADA.
Compliance.
I
cannot
walk
into
our
Clubhouse
or
I
can't
get
in
with
the
wheelchair
of
any
kind.
Electric
or
regular
I
can't
bring
my
scooter
up
there,
there's
no
place
for
me
to
get
in
when
I
walk
up
the
three
steps
I
have
to
park.
My
electric
wheelchair
on
the
street
and
I
walk
up
to
three
steps
and
I
grab
hold
of
the
rail,
is
so
wonky
or
loose
that
I
actually
freeze
and
very
carefully
take
those
three
steps.
M
A
N
Thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
too,
am
a
resident
of
Ranch,
Mobile,
Home,
Park,
and
so
many
things
to
say.
I
was
with
Thunderbird
Oaks
I
was
their
manager
there
and
at
the
age
of
79
retired
and
moved
to
the
ranch,
because
it
was
a
smaller
Community,
more
affordable
for
me,
because
my
income
is
my
Social
Security
and
I
also
worked
for
the
hone
family.
N
N
I
know.
There's
nothing
in
writing,
as
at
least
I
understand,
there's
nothing
in
writing,
but
I'm
in
still
talking
with
the
home
family.
They
remember
it
as
being
just
that
and
I
I.
It's
so
hard
I
I
wish.
If
you
want
to
make
a
change
into
a
family
park,
have
any
of
you
been
in
to
the
ranch
to
see
how
it
would
accommodate
a
family
you'd?
Be
amazed
because
it
won't
it's
very
small,
74
spaces.
N
He
did
exactly
what
he
was
asked
to
do
and
I
I
wish
that
you
would
really
give
consideration
to
it
and
change
your
mind,
because
I
understand
it's
already
been
told
that
they
can
change
it.
Effective,
September,
1st
and
I'm
hoping
there'll
be
some
way
that
you
can
make
a
change
of
that
back
to
it
being
a
senior
Park.
Thank
you.
A
O
O
There
are
74
units
of
seniors
I'm,
the
Young
Gun
still
in
the
park
there.
I
live
I've
been
at
the
ranch
for
a
excuse.
Me,
eight
years
now,
I'm
63.,
the
majority
of
the
people
that
reside
there
are
octogenarians
and
as
which
is
a
bit
fortuitous.
The
last
time
we
were
here
the
big
agenda
item
before
us
was
homelessness
and
tonight
2-1-1.
The
biggest
thing
is
home.
O
We
are
talking
about
74
senior
residents,
then
my
mind
wonders
like
okay,
how
many
residents
for
seniors
are
available
currently
in
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks,
because
I
know,
there's
I
would
imagine
that
there's
a
metric
that
has
to
be
met,
because
if
not,
then
of
course
everybody
in
every
city
would
have.
You
know
a
bunch
of
Young
Guns,
which
is
fine,
but
there's
also
a
place
where
people
need
to
reside.
I'm
really
worried
about.
O
What
you
know,
I
don't
want
to
pay
a
zillion
dollars
to
live
there,
but
if
it
became
that
I
could
the
majority
of
my
neighbors,
they
cannot
I
believe
that
you
know
it
comes
down
to
and
my
My
Brother's
Keeper
and
is
yes,
you
are
you're
elected
officials
and
I.
Understand
that
it's
your
job
to
look
out
for
all
of
us.
I
know
that
you
will
do
the
right
thing.
I.
Thank
you
for
the
time.
I
know
that
you're
busy
blessings
to
you
all.
P
Mr,
mayor
council
members,
staff,
City
attorney
and
all
you
members
I,
want
to
point
out
when
I
first
saw
of
off
I
want
to
say
ditto
to
everything
that
people
have
said
regarding
the
ranch
I'm
from
George
senko
from
the
Thunderbird
Oaks,
Community
and
I'm,
in
support
of
the
ranch
being
maintained
as
a
senior
only
Park
as
Pat
hostmeyer
said.
You
know,
it
was
always
intended
to
be.
P
P
P
A
Q
Thank
you
good
evening.
My
name
is
kapaka
senko,
it's
nice
to
see
all
of
you.
Council
members
management,
Miss,
Ramirez
I
want
to
talk
about
the
families
number
one
I
think
we've
got
a
big
space
issue
with
the
ranch
we're
talking
about
squeezing
350
or
300
people
into
a
space
for
74
people
of
the
74
units.
60
of
them
are
single
wide
they're
only
600
square
feet.
Q
How
are
you
going
to
manage?
You
know
with
60
single
wide
units
with
one
and
a
half
bedrooms
where
you
should
have
three
or
four
bedrooms?
It
just
does
not
compute
a
family
of
four
needs.
Really
a
minimum
I
would
say:
F
1600
square
feet
with
three
to
four
bedrooms.
The
ranch
homes
are
too
small
for
families.
Q
Q
Where
are
you
going
to
put
the
strollers
and
the
bicycles
and
the
tricycles
there's
just
not
room
for
all
the
stuff
that
goes
with
the
family,
the
car
seats
that
don't
fit
anywhere
in
the
house
or
the
you
know
in
between
and
when
you
have
teenagers
they
may
want
to
have
cars
too.
There's
not
enough
space
for
parking
as
it
is,
nobody
can
come
and
visit.
Q
The
nearest
park
I
would
add.
Is
the
the
peace
park
has
a
terrible
problem
right
now,
with
homeless
people
camping
out
there,
families
don't
want
to
go
there.
They
don't
want
to
take
their
kids
kids,
who
need
Green
Space.
There
is
none
at
the
ranch.
I
can't
even
remember
seeing
a
tree
psychologically
in
IQ
development,
wise
kids
need
Green
Space.
They
need
to
be
able
to
get
out
of
their
homes
and
walk
safely
into
a
play
area.
There's
no
play
area.
There's
no
place
for
teens
to
go.
There's
no
basketball
court.
Q
It
would
be
a
shame
to
put
children
into
a
situation
like
that.
You
would
be
creating
a
slum
atmosphere
too
crowded
too
psychologically
damaging
for
families
who
are
struggling
as
it
is
the
people
who
would
go.
There
are
very
low
in
income
people
they
need
better
from
us.
Please
keep
it
seniors.
Thank.
R
R
As
of
late.
The
biggest
scientist,
respect
to
Skaters
has
come
in
the
form
of
skate
stoppers
on
Rails
and
Ledges,
nothing
wet
to
Skaters
beak
more
than
a
fat
ledge.
He
can
bust
a
blunt
side
on
and
nothing
kills
a
skater's
boner
more
than
the
government
ripping
that
Joy
away
from
him.
That
is
why
we
come
to
you
Thousand
Oaks.
R
R
How
can
you
do
this
by
coding
the
entire
city
in
Marble,
the
most
Primo
surface,
for
skaters
to
rip
on?
Not
only
is
marble
cheap
and
beautiful,
but
it's
also
the
smoothest
surface
for
riding
on
landing
on
and
falling
on.
This
will
create
a
skaters
Paradise
that
will
put
up
the
bat
signal
to
Skaters
everywhere
that
they
can
come
shred
safely.
Think
of
the
council,
you
will
have
a
bigger
influx
of
cool
dudes
than
Seattle
in
the
90s.
S
And
so
I'm
Chad's,
buddy,
JT
and
I'm
having
kids
my
girlfriend
is
pregnant
and
I
know
my
kids
will
be
skaters
like
I
am
and
I
want
them
to
feel
like
the
world
is
designed
for
them,
not
against
them.
People
don't
believe
the
government's
with
us
anymore.
We
think
it's
US
versus
y'all,
but
it
doesn't
have
to
be
like
that.
If
you
make
the
city
marble,
we'll
know
you're
with
us,
and
you
want
to
do
right
by
us
and
we'll
repay
you
with
the
sickest
Ollies
and
by
extension,
hotties
and
parties.
R
Thank
you,
JT
that
fired
me
up
and
you
guys
may
be
wondering
why
Thousand
Oaks,
council,
member
Taylor
I
know
you
by
your
secret
Alter
Ego
Mikey,
Taylor
unreal,
Pro,
Skater
and
Barry.
Chill
dude.
Never
before
have
skaters
had
a
bigger
bro
in
government,
and
we
need
you
do
not
forget
your
roots,
dude
and
just
to
stomp
this
Landing
Council,
the
sponsorship
money
will
10x
your
tax
revenue.
I
can
already
see
it.
Thousand
Oaks
brought
to
you
by
Taco
Bell
counsel.
R
A
T
We've
had
historic
rains
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
been
inspections
to
see
how
the
school
is
doing
in
the
late
70s
and
80s
Thousand
Oaks
designated
several
landmarks,
then,
for
a
couple
decades
there
was
complete
inaction
and
something
changed.
Basically,
the
city
council
dedicated
or
made
itself
that
our
cultural
heritage
board
and
was
inactive
I
understand
that
there
are
new
members
of
the
council,
and
you
may
not
know
that
the
responsibility
for
protecting
our
landmarks
is
slowly
irresponsibility.
T
This
Council
should
proactively
research
potential
landmarks
and
points
of
interest,
I'm
wondering
when
was
the
last
time
the
city,
the
Thousand,
Oaks
cultural
heritage
board,
publicly
held
a
meeting
to
research,
evaluate
at-risk
sites,
so
they
don't
end
up
vandalized
or
lost
for
more
than
a
century.
Timber
schools
served
as
our
community
resource.
This
included
many
of
the
founders
such
as
the
Hayes
Orchard
and
Jantz
families.
T
T
A
U
V
You
thank
you
all
for
coming
down
tonight.
It's
good
to
see
a
lot
of
people
in
the
public
I'm
used
to
seeing
you
all
virtually
so
it's
nice
to
have
you
down
here,
although
this
isn't
on
the
agenda
tonight.
So
therefore
we're
not
allowed
to
discuss
this
under
the
brown
act,
I'm
going
to
try
to
briefly
respond
to
some
of
the
points,
or
at
least
I'm
trying
to
cover
all
of
the
points
raised
by
the
speaker,
so
that
we
can
answer
some
of
your
questions.
V
Just
for
your
information
representatives
from
Ranch,
Mobile
Home
Park
have
previously
reached
out
to
staff
regarding
the
senior
designation
at
the
park
and
staff
did
research
that
issue.
However,
we
can
based
on
that
review.
We
found
no
legal
covenants
that
require
the
park,
that
the
park
prohibit
families
and,
in
fact,
I
think.
Several
speakers
indicated
that
they
are
aware
of
that
as
well.
We
could
find
no
legal
covenants
or
requirements
that
parks
that
the
park
be
limited
to
seniors
and
exclude
or
prohibit
families.
I
do
believe.
V
The
reference
to
the
housing
element
is
actually
a
reference
that
cdbg
funds.
Those
are
the
federal
funds
that
the
city
is
able
to
disperse
for
certain
types
of
purposes.
The
city
has
historically
dispersed
cdbg
funds
for
to
the
nonprofit
organization
safe,
who
has
provided
those
funds
to
various
parks
in
the
city,
including
Ranch,
who
has
historically
identified
itself
as
a
senior
Park.
However,
that
is
not
a
legal
mandate.
It's
just
a
it's
just
a
notation
on
on
the
park
now.
V
I
understand
that
the
private
property
owner
had
might
have
ex
you
know,
has
excluded
families
from
the
park
in
the
past.
However,
that's
a
private,
a
private
decision
from
the
park
owner.
In
other
words,
there
is
no
legal,
Covenant
or
legal
mandate
that
it
be
limited
to
seniors
and
the
city
does
not
regulate
who
may
reside
at
the
park
outside
of
a
legal
Covenant
or
a
legal
entitlement.
Staff
actually
previously
followed
up
with
pre
representatives
from
the
parking
provided.
V
So
all
of
the
rent
control
that
has
been
enjoyed
by
the
residents
of
Ranch
Mobile
Home
Park
will
continue,
regardless
of
whether
it
is
limited
to
seniors
only
or
to
or
is
open
up
to
families
with
respect
to
Street,
Maintenance,
ADA
compliance
and
other
amenities.
We
have
talked
about
this
in
the
past.
The
city
has
no
jurisdiction
over
mobile
home
parks
and
I.
Think
a
couple
of
residents
also
mentioned
that
as
well.
Mobile
home
parks
are
one
of
the
few
areas
land
use
areas
that
is
entirely
under
the
control
of
the
state
hcd.
V
They
have
the
jurisdiction
over
that.
So,
as
mentioned
by
the
public
speaker,
the
state
does
have
exclusive
jurisdiction
over
that
and,
finally,
I
think
a
couple
of
residents
mentioned
that
there
were
private
contracts
when
they,
when
they
bought
their
space
and
brought
their
their
house
into
the
facility
that
the
park
owner
had
a
contract.
That
said
that
they
would
limit
that
Park
to
seniors.
V
But
that
is
something
that
the
city,
it's
a
third
party
contract,
it's
a
private
contract
between
the
private
property
owner
and
the
park
owner
and
the
city
doesn't
have
jurisdiction
over
that
either.
So
those
are
I
hope,
I
answered
all
of
those
questions
and
again
this
is
not
on
the
agenda
tonight,
so
we
cannot
discuss
it,
but
I
was
at
least
wanting
to
try
to
answer
all
of
the
questions
and
concerns
that
were
raised
tonight.
A
W
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
members
of
city,
council
and
City
staff.
My
name
is
Jackson
Piper
from
unincorporated
Newbury
Park
I
wanted
to
comment
on
items
10c,
which
is
to
approve
the
agreement
right
there
as
person,
or
want
to
say
that
you
should
approve
the
agreement
with
the
environmental
consultant
as
per
staff's
recommendation
and
10j
to
approve
the
fee
waiver
or
the
navigation
Center
as
per
staff's
recommendation,
especially
in
light
of
recent
testimony
and
the
city's
ongoing
homelessness
problem.
I
think
we
really
need
to
do
everything
we
can
to
make
the
navigation
Center
a
possibility.
A
X
Council
members,
thank
you
for
your
time
this
evening.
So
this
being
my
first
time
here,
I
recently
opened
the
Thousand
Oaks
Acorn,
which
I
rarely
do
I
typically
stick
to
online
materials
and
saw
that
there
were
changes
being
made
to
our
elections
from
at
large
to
disc
per
district,
and
that
had
me
very
concerned
I'm,
going
to
read
what
the
article
said
and
then
I'll
proceed.
X
Thousand
Oaks
will
soon
switch
from
at
large
elections
to
by
area
and
or
by
District
elections.
The
former
is
what
we've
had.
It
is
similar
to
one
Canal
valley
USD
had
initiated
in
2018
and
Canal
recreation
park
and
District
did
earlier
this
year.
The
city
took
up
the
an
issue
in
response
to
a
March
15
letter
threatening
legal
action
from
a
Santa
Barbara
area
attorney
on
behalf
of
a
Thousand
Oaks
resident.
The
lawsuit
has
proven
to
be
extremely
costly
and
unwinnable
for
cities
in
California.
X
So
far,
the
concern
is
that
large
elections
May
dilute
voting
blocks
of
protected
classes.
My
first
question
is
how
I
don't
think
there
was
any
proof
given
to
anyone
about
that,
and
the
reason
given
for
shifting
to
a
buy
area
system
is
to
provide
better
representation
and
more
fair
elections
for
all.
My
question
again
continues
how,
when
looking
up
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
on
Wikipedia
being
the
second
largest
city
in
Ventura,
County,
a
population
near
127,
000
people,
it
states,
U.S
census,
reported
that
to
racial
makeup
of
80
percent
white
and
1.3
African-American.
X
Now
it's
kind
of
interesting.
If
you
stop
there,
I
could
maybe
see
the
argument
for
the
change
in
election
process,
but
they
also
have
an
ancestry
in
Thousand
Oaks
chart
which
actually
Dives
a
bit
deeper:
German
Americans
15
percent
Mexican
Americans,
12
percent
English
Americans
11,
Irish,
Americans,
ten
percent,
so
on
and
so
forth.
It
continues
to
drill
down
and
at
the
bottom
African-American
1.3
percent.
But
nowhere
on
this
list
do
I
see
white.
X
X
The
other
126
965
residents
in
Thousand,
Oaks,
get
no
say
California's
version
of
the
federal
Voting
Rights
Act
does
not
require
that
the
party
threatening
a
suit
to
demonstrate
a
specific
Geographic
District,
where
a
minority
is
concentrated
enough
to
establish
a
majority.
So
they
don't
require
proof.
They
just
make
a
change
right.
B
C
Y
A
Z
Good
evening,
mayor
McNamee
and
Council
Members
First
before
I
start
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
comments.
Memorializing
Wesley,
Welling
I'm
greatly
appreciated
by
a
lot
of
us.
It's
my
pleasure
to
once
again
be
here
this
evening
to
present
the
community
funding
review
committee's
recommendations
for
the
city's
fiscal
year,
2023
to
2024
the
community
events.
Grants
also
known
as
the
ceg
grants.
Z
The
city's
fiscal
2023-2024
general
fund
budget
will
include
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
ceg
grant
funding
program
consistent
with
the
program's
guidelines.
85
000
is
available
through
the
annual
grant,
funding
funding
cycle
application
process
and
fifteen
thousand
dollars
is
retained
for
future
off-cycle
funding
requests.
Z
The
application
period
was
open
from
January
23rd
to
February
23rd.
The
application
was
available
on
the
city's
website.
Email
notifications
were
sent
to
applicants
from
the
previous
Grant
cycle.
A
press
release
was
issued
and
an
article
was
posted
in
the
January
and
February
issues
of
the
city
scene
newsletter,
the
city
utilized
social
media,
to
notify
the
community
of
the
grad
opportunity.
Additionally,
the
acorn
published
an
article
about
the
Grant
in
the
February
4th
2023
issue.
Z
Z
Z
A
A
A
Excellent
see,
staff
here
is
wonderful
if
I
may
digress.
Briefly,
after
speaking
with
other
cities
at
the
various
conferences,
I
have
to
say,
we
have
a
superb
City
staff
here
in
Thousand
Oaks
and
all
of
you
are
benefiting
from
the
terrific
terrific
people
we
have
working
for
us
with
that.
Let
me
move
on
to
item
11,
public
hearings,
City
Clerk,.
C
A
AB
AB
The
applicant's
request
is
that
the
city
council
adopt
a
resolution
to
find
that
the
project
qualifies
for
a
categorical
exemption
under
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
or
sequa,
and
to
approve
the
applications
listed
in
the
next
slide
for
construction
of
a
multi-family
residential
project
and
Associated
landscape,
Hardscape
and
Grading,
located
at
88
Long
Court.
In
addition
to
adopt
an
ordinance
approving
the
development
agreement.
AB
AB
AB
AB
AB
It's
currently
developed
with
an
existing
20
000
square
foot,
27
foot
tall
commercial
office
development
approved
in
March
1978.,
the
Topography
of
the
site
has
a
gradual
grade
transition,
resulting
in
an
approximately
14
foot
rise
in
elevation
between
the
Northern
or
lower
surface
parking
lot
and
the
southern
or
upper
surface
parking
lot.
The
site
is
currently
landscaped
with
mature
foliage
and
trees,
both
protected
and
non-protected.
AB
AB
In
addition,
a
commercial
office
is
located
between
the
property
and
the
Ventura
freeway,
which
is
200
feet
to
the
South
on
April
27
2021,
a
residential
capacity
allocation
and
an
initiation
of
the
general
plan.
Amendment
for
the
project
was
authorized
by
city
council
for
allocation
of
the
residential
units
for
the
project
and
to
allow
the
pre-screen
and
formal
submittal
process
to
commence
in
October
2021.
A
pre-application
was
submitted
on
March
2022.
The
applicant
began
submitting
the
subject,
applications
which
were
listed
previously
and
on
March
27
2023.
AB
The
Planning
Commission
voted
to
recommend
city
council
approval
5-0,
the
Commissioners
expressed
General
appreciation
for
the
design
of
the
project
and
the
housing
it
would
bring
to
the
area
of
the
city.
Questions
were
asked
regarding
particular
project
design,
details
and
clarifying
the
measure
e
process.
AB
The
proposed
project
includes
the
construction
of
a
73
unit,
three-story
Podium
apartment
building.
The
apartment
building
is
proposed
with
three
stories
above
the
basement
parking
garage
and
will
be
an
average
height
of
34
feet.
The
Project's
architectural
design
is
a
blend
of
mid-century,
modern
and
contemporary
Styles,
as
I'll
show
in
a
little
bit.
It
should
also
be
noted
that
the
applicant
team
worked
with
staff
to
incorporate
feedback
and
recommendations
for
improved
design
and
upgraded
details
throughout
the
review
process.
AB
The
architectural
design
can
be
seen
here
from
this
rendering
looking
East
from
the
northwest
corner.
So
if
you're
standing
on
Long
Court
looking
towards
Moody
court
at
the
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
end
foreign,
the
proposed
architectural
design
incorporates
the
design
guidelines
of
the
Thousand
Oaks
Municipal,
Code
and
sp20
into
the
project
by
including
direct
pedestrian
access
to
ground
floor
dwelling
units
wherever
possible
and
providing
a
variety
of
building
material
types
and
details.
As
you
can
see
from
this
rendering
from
Moody
Court
looking
towards
long
court
and
the
101
freeway.
AB
Sp20
allows
buildings
up
to
three
stories
with
a
50-foot
maximum
average
height.
The
majority
of
the
proposed
building
is
three
stories
above
the
parking
garage
or
less.
The
average
height
of
the
structure
is
about
34
feet
and
maximum
height
is
50
feet
at
the
northern
facade.
Therefore,
the
building
height
complies
with
the
requirements
of
sp20.
AB
AB
The
property
lines
adjacent
to
other
Parcels
to
the
north
and
south
are
treated
as
interior
side
yards.
However,
as
the
proposed
project
fronts,
two
streets,
long
and
Moody
courts,
both
Street
frontages-
need
to
comply
with
the
sp20
requirement
that
the
third
story
is
set
back
an
average
of
10
feet
which
they
do.
AB
The
proposed
project
also
meets
the
sp20
sidewalk
requirement
along
Moody
Court.
However,
the
applicant
is
requesting
a
waiver
of
this
requirement
along
long
court
so
that
the
existing
five-foot
sidewalk
is
retained,
but
not
expanded.
The
additional
three
feet,
however,
in
order
to
retain
the
option
to
expand
the
sidewalk
in
the
future
city
staff
have
negotiated
with
the
applicant
to
include
a
three-foot
easement,
a
long,
long
Court
as
part
of
the
development
agreement.
AB
With
the
acceptance
of
the
waiver,
the
project
meets
all
setbacks
required
by
sp20.
In
addition
per
the
municipal
code
below
grade
parking
structures
require
increased
setbacks
for
the
front,
rear
and
side
yards.
The
applicant
is
requesting
that
the
five
foot
increased
setbacks
for
the
front
and
rear
yards
be
waived.
Staff
supports
this
waiver
request.
A
similar,
increased
setbacks
are
not
required
for
residential
projects
with
above
ground
parking
structures,
and
a
decreased
setback
allows
for
more
direct
pedestrian
access
to
the
ground
floor.
AB
Dwelling
units
staying
on
the
subject
of
waivers
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
trash
enclosure
within
the
Northwest
and
Southeast
corners
of
the
parking
structure
which
you
can
see
here
highlighted
in
yellow
per
the
municipal
code.
Trash
enclosures
are
not
permitted
within
a
parking
structure.
However,
staff
understands
the
section
of
the
code
to
be
outdated
as
new
refuse
collection,
vehicle
types
allow
for
the
storage
of
waste
containers
within
the
parking
structure.
AB
AB
AB
This
allows
the
applicant
to
add
up
to
19
more
dwelling
units
for
a
total
of
73
units
maximum.
In
addition,
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
provide
two
additional
moderate
income
restricted
units
for
an
overall
total
of
eight
affordable
units.
This
is
two
above
the
minimum
amount
to
qualify
for
the
35
percent
density
bonus.
AB
Furthermore,
per
state
density
bonus
law
based
on
the
percentage
of
very
low
income
units
offered.
The
applicant
is
also
entitled
to
two
incentives
or
concessions
for
this
project.
The
two
requested
concessions
include
a
25
percent
to
46
percent
reduction
of
the
100
square
foot,
minimum
private,
open
space
area
requirement
for
57
percent
of
the
units
and
an
increase
from
35
percent
maximum
building
coverage
to
54
percent
building
coverage.
AB
AB
The
proposed
project
includes
pedestrian
walkways
and
a
parklet
open
to
Residents
and
the
public
which
connect
the
existing
sidewalks
on
long
and
Moody
courts.
In
addition,
ground
floor
units
provide
direct
access
to
the
sidewalk,
along
both
Moody
and
long
courts
via
landscape
patios,
with
direct
access
to
the
street,
which
are
seen
here.
AB
AB
126
total
parking
is
located
within
the
parking
garage,
as
well
as
the
two
existing
surface
slots,
which
are
to
be
retained,
as
well
as
on
the
street
along
the
street
frontages
as
Allowed
by
sp20
Landscaping
is
provided
throughout
the
Open
Spaces
landscape
buffers
and
along
the
walkways
within
the
site.
The
project
provides
landscape
buffers
around
the
majority
of
both
the
North
and
South
surface
parking
areas
and
exceeds
the
required
amount
of
landscaping
required.
AB
If
the
project
is
approved,
a
formal
landscape
plan
will
be
required
and
Technical
evaluation
of
that
plan
will
be
provided
through
a
landscape
plant
check
process
to
ensure
compliance
with
the
city's
landscape
and
irrigation
standards
per
sb20.
Three
percent
of
the
building
footprint
must
be
dedicated
to
public
open
space.
The
project
exceeds
this
requirement
by
more
than
350
percent,
providing
four
thousand
five
hundred
square
feet
of
public
Green,
Space
playground
and
walking
area
in
the
northeast
corner
of
the
property.
AB
AB
AB
A
city
oak
tree
consultant
reviewed
the
applicant's
oak
tree
report
and
visited
the
site.
The
consultant
concluded
that,
with
the
inclusion
of
the
recommended
conditions,
including
appropriate
work
methods
and
monitoring
that
the
proposed
encroachments
will
not
have
a
negative
effect
on
the
health
of
trees,.
AB
A
development
agreement
is
required
for
approval
of
projects
that
receive
allocation
of
measure
e-units.
This
agreement
is
a
contract
between
the
property
owner
and
the
city
to
ensure
specific
deliverables
and
site
expectations
or
in
place
to
ensure
public
benefit,
such
as
the
inclusion
of
affordable
units
and
site
improvements.
AB
The
development
agreement
lists
various
obligations
and
benefits
received
by
the
parties
in
the
agreement.
If
the
project
is
approved
and
constructed
as
proposed,
the
city
will
have
65
market
rate,
six
very
low
income,
restricted,
affordable
and
two
moderate
income,
restricted,
affordable
units
to
add
to
its
residential
stock
and
count
towards
the
current
Arena
requirements
from
the
state,
as
well
as
the
demolition
of
an
aging
commercial
site
and
publicly
accessible
open
space
will
be
made
available,
including
a
small
playground.
AB
Proposed
project
has
been
designed
to
meet
the
intent
of
the
city's
standards,
codes
and
policies.
The
proposed
building,
design
and
site
layout
integrates
well
with
surrounding
development
and
has
a
cohesive,
architectural
design
meeting
the
city's
architectural
design
guidelines
as
such,
the
Planning
Commission
recommends
approval
of
this
project,
subject
to
the
conditions
of
approval
in
the
ordinances
and
resolutions
provided
as
part
of
the
agenda
packet.
A
AB
Y
AC
Y
Based
on
the
current
city
practice
and
City
policy,
we
look.
We
focus
more
on
the
PM
peak
hours
so
based
on
it
has
to
be
100,
PM
peak
hour
trips
or
more
for
there
to
be
a
traffic
study
required.
So
as
mentioned
earlier,
there
was
only
8
PM
peak
hour
trips,
so
there's
no
traffic
study
required
and
it
is
insignificant
amount
of
traffic
based
on
our
current
policy.
AC
I'm
asking
a
different
question,
though:
not
whether
the
level
of
traffic
is
insignificant,
but
whether
the
impact
to
city
streets
is
insignificant.
Well,
is
there
a
significant
or
all
these
new
car
trips
at
a
high
enough
level
to
to
cause
a
concern
for
city
streets,
sounds
like
you're,
saying
they're
not
but
I
I'm
I'm
asking
the
question:
that's.
AC
AC
I
think
the
the
way
the
the
six
affordable
units
is
it
works
out,
is
a
function
of
how
much
of
a
density
bonus
is
permitted
in
the
given
this
amount
of
space.
Is
that
correct,
so
so
that,
in
other
words,
even
if
staff
had
asked
for
let's
say,
20,
affordable
units,
the
way
the
math
of
the
density
bonus
works
there
just
isn't
room
to
to
allow
the
density
bonus
and
have
that
many
affordable
units
is
that
is
that
a
reasonable
interpretation.
AC
AC
AC
AB
I'm
not
still
not
sure
that
I'm
understanding
your
question.
So
let
me
try
to
give
you
an
answer
and
you
can
tell
me
if
I'm
getting
there
or
not
so
the
the
density
bonus
allowed
is
calculated
by
the
percentage
of
the
base
density
right.
A
number
of
affordable
units
based
off
the
base
unit
count
so
there's
54.,
Let's,
Pretend,
There's,
No
density
bonus.
There's
54
units
allowed
on
the
that
property
by
providing
11
of
those
units
as
affordable
at
the
very
low
income
level
they
get
35
percent
more
units.
That's
the
number!
AB
AC
AC
AD
So
the
level
of
the
number,
the
percentage
of
density
bonus
units
is
based
off
the
base
density
and
the
number
of
affordable
units
provided
is
a
function
of
the
level
of
affordability
of
the
units
and
the
number
provided.
So
it's
the
two
numbers
work
together
on
the
sliding
scale
to
determine
the
number
of
density
bonus
units
that
you're
allowed
part
of
the
reason
it's
calculated.
That
way
is
because
the
number
of
additional
market
rate
units
is
used
to
offset
the
cost
of
providing
the
affordable
units,
so
they
work
together
on
a
sliding
scale.
AD
V
Yeah,
if
I
could
also
just
clarify
to
make
sure
everyone
understands
when
under
State
density,
bonus
law,
the
percentage
that
the
percentage
of
affordable
that's
provided
is
based
on
the
density
bone
is
based
on
the
base
unit.
You
cannot
count
those
density
bonus
units
towards
the
overall
affordability
percentage.
You
cannot
do
that
under
the
law,
it's
strictly
limited
to
the
base
units
and
how
many
of
those
base
units
will
be
deemed
affordable.
AC
Yeah
I
understand
how
the
formula
works.
I'm,
looking
at
the
project
in
total
and
I,
think
a
reasonable
person
looking
at
a
project
that
has
73
units
and
even
someone
as
bad
as
at
arithmetic
as
I
am-
can
do
the
math
that
six
units
out
of
73
is
not
11
percent.
It's
eight
percent
that
that's
all
I,
say
I
understand
how
the
formula
works.
V
H
AC
AA
Good
Mr
Engler,
thank
you,
yeah
I,
think
just
to
jump
in
it
is
based
on
the
base
units,
but
I
I
appreciate
your
point.
That
six
is
not.
You
know
a
big
number,
it's
a
good
good
size
number,
especially
in
the
low,
very
low
income,
though
where
we
need
some
help
but
I'm.
Sorry,
let's,
let's
go
to
my
questions,
the
sidewalk
it
and
especially
on
the
Moody
court
side.
AB
AA
AD
AA
AD
AF
You
and
if
I
may,
council
member,
so
we
do
have
the
conditions
and
there
is
a
condition
153
that
does
State
the
plans
for
the
sprinkler
system
have
to
be
submitted.
So
there
is
seems
to
be
obvious
from
the
condition
that
is
going
to
be
sprinkler,
but
those
specific
plans
have
to
be
submitted
after
the
once.
The
plan
check
starts.
AA
A
AG
Good
evening,
mayor
McNamee,
council
members
I'll
do
my
best
to
be
brief,
which
is
not
an
easy
task
for
a
lawyer.
My
name
is
Tom
Cohen
a
resident
here
at
Thousand,
Oaks
and
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
sjg
long
Investment,
LLC,
the
applicant
and
owner
of
the
property
with
me
tonight
is
Elaine
Lowe
representing
her
family
that
owns
the
property.
AG
AG
First
I
got
to
extend
a
huge
thank
you
to
staff
in
particular
Justine
for
your
expert
leadership
in
getting
this
project
through
the
planning
process.
The
project
is
better
due
to
your
insightful
involvement
and
we
sincerely
appreciate
staff
and
the
planning
commission's
recommendation
to
approve
the
project
tonight.
As
you've
heard,
we
are
requesting
your
approval
to
allocate
54
units
of
measuring
residential
capacity
through
the
general
plan
Amendment
and
approve
this
well-conceived
73-year
department
project.
This
project
is
located
on
the
west
end
of
Thousand
Oaks
Boulevard
within
specific
plant
20..
AG
As
such,
the
specific
plan
requires
a
high
quality
project
with
a
wide
range
of
amenities
for
the
future
residents
which
we
believe
we
are
delivering.
Staff
report
outlines
all
those
amenities,
specific
plan,
number
20
and
the
zoning
calls
for
housing
on
this
property,
and
this
property
uniquely
represents
the
best
current
opportunity
on
the
Boulevard
on
the
West
End,
to
cite
quality,
Workforce,
Housing
close
to
jobs,
services
and
Retail,
due
to
its
proximity
within
walking,
distance
of
tarantula,
Hill
and
other
restaurants
and
Retail
in
the
vicinity.
AG
AG
This
project
checks
all
the
boxes.
It
provides
housing
in
the
western
end
of
the
boulevard
where
jobs
are
where
retail
exists
and
where
services
are
provided.
In
addition,
the
project
incorporates
sustainability
principles
that
will
encourage
walking
instead
of
driving,
thereby
reducing
vehicle
miles.
Traveled
Community
engagement
by
providing
housing
near
successful
gathering
places
such
as
tarantula
Hill,
the
tips
you
go
to
in
other
places
and
the
project
will
encourage
the
community
to
support
local
businesses
and
provide
our
local
businesses
a
place
for
their
employees
to
live.
AG
Staff
did
an
excellent
job
of
walking
you
through
how
the
project
meets
or
exceeds
the
city
requirements.
We've
touched
on
the
major
points.
We'd
be
happy
to
delve
into
any
of
those
items
deeper.
Should
you
desire?
We
also
wanted
you
to
be
aware
that
we've
done
some
Outreach.
We've
done
that
with
Toba
the
boulevard
Association
and
the
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
both
indicated
their
support
for
the
project.
AG
I,
don't
believe,
there's
been
any
other
correspondence
received
by
the
city
related
to
this
project
and,
lastly,
we've
reviewed
all
177
project
conditions
find
them
to
be
acceptable,
including
the
fire
sprinkler
condition
council
member
ingler.
Our
our
plans
are
to
put
fire
sprinkles
into
the
buildings.
AG
A
AC
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you.
Mr
Khan
appreciate
it
just
two
questions:
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
in
the
area
of
of
what
you
and
team
are
doing
and
putting
up
a
Green
Building
you've
got
more
electric
Chargers
than
than
are
required
and
we're
certainly
going
to
be
needing
more
of
those.
As
you
know,
we've
got
new
building
codes
coming
down
the
pike
from
the
state
that
will
require
electric
only
Construction
in
the
near
future,
and
my
question
is:
is
this
project
getting
ahead
of
those
and
and
implementing
all
electric
construction?
Today.
AG
AC
I'm
very
glad
to
hear
that
that
that's
great
news,
the
other,
the
other
question
I
had
is,
is
I
touched
on
with
staff
about
affordability,
I
appreciate
what
you've
done
in
working
with
staff
to
provide
eight
affordable
units,
total
and
I
would
be
the
first
to
agree.
We
need
more
housing
in
the
moderate
income
category
as
well
as
very
low
in
very
low
income.
However,
if
we're
looking
at
our
needs,
it's
not
really
so
much
in
the
modern
income
category
we're
at
over
the
past
eight
years.
AC
AG
The
first
of
all
six
very
little
units
is,
is
a
an
absolute
loss
to
the
projects
performance.
So
it's
it's
losing
money
right
out
of
the
box.
So
that's
why
we
came
back
in
discussions
with
staff
and
our
negotiations
with
two
moderate,
because
that's
all
these
projects
can
really
fulfill.
If
you
want
to
see
them
get
built.
You
know
these
projects
are
providing
lots
of
amenities
for
these
residents.
AC
AA
You
councilman
England,
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
yeah,
I,
remember
when
we
we
talked
about
this
a
couple
of
years
ago.
This
is
a
good
looking
project
a
couple
of
years
ago
and
I
know
we
gave
you
feedback
on
parking,
because
one
of
our
council
members
was
very
interested
in
that
I.
Believe
even
the
mayor
was
very
interested
in
that
and
we
gave
you
feedback
on
affordability
and
you
fulfilled
both
those
conditions
that
we
we
presented
to
you
a
couple
of
years
ago.
AA
So
my
my
hats
off
to
you
for
that
I
appreciate
the
the
efforts.
That's
gone
into
that
and
and
I
appreciate
the
the
owners
having
come
around
to
our
our
side.
Of
that
there's
one
other
wrinkle
that's
occurred
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
We
had
a
thing
called
the
drought
last
year,
and
some
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
looking
at
is
in
new
projects
is
permeable.
Paving.
AA
AA
AH
Yeah
and
one
of
the
other
elements
that
we
added
to
the
project
towards
the
end
of
the
formal
application
development
was
the
addition
of
Planters
along
the
long
court
side.
So
we've
got
a
series
of
planters
that
flowed
kind
of
downhill
towards
the
north.
They
act
as
kind
of
a
buffered
to
screen
the
garage
and
keep
soft
Landscaping
kind
of
front
and
center
on
the
project.
So
that's
an
opportunity
for
ways
to
take
roof:
rain
water
direct
it
to
those
Planters
and
filter
it.
That
way.
A
You
I
have
a
few
questions
or
just
first
start
off
with
an
observation
and
say
thank
you.
As
councilman
Engler
had
mentioned,
that
parking
is
a
concern
of
mine
on
many
of
these
projects
coming
forward
and
I
was
reminded
this
last
week
when
I
was
on
the
West
Side
visiting
my
father,
that
the
traffic
in
the
west
side
of
Los
Angeles
and
the
ability
to
park
is
absolutely
ridiculous.
A
So
I,
that's
why
I
am
first
and
foremost
on
many
of
these
projects.
Parking
is
a
question
I'm
asking
and
thank
you
for
accommodating
that
request,
because
parking
is
going
to
be
critical
to
a
quality
of
life.
We
we
enjoy
here
in
Thousand,
Oaks
I
I
want
to
also
come
back
to
a
question
for
the
applicant
we've.
Had
a
number
of
projects
come
forth
to
the
city
council
here
and
we've
approved
some
really
wonderful
projects
where
they
wind
up
getting
sold
off.
A
We
would
like
to
have
developers
here
who
are
committed
to
this
wonderful
City.
We
have
called
Thousand
Oaks.
Is
this
project
and
again
we're
not
under
oath
you're,
not
going
to
be
held
to
perjury
under
penalty
perjury,
but
is
it
one
where
the
developers
obligated
not
obligated
committed
to
the
city
and
developing
it
or
is
it
going
to
be
sold
off.
A
Any
other
questions
from
Council
real
good,
no
more
questions,
then
we'll
move
to
public
speakers.
We
have
four
speakers
and
we
have
we're
going
to
allocate
Madam
clerk
five
minutes
for
each.
Thank
you.
First
up
on
Zoom
we
have
Jackson
Piper
Mr
Piper
you're
on
you,
have
five
minutes
and
I'll
give
you
a
15.
Second
warning:
if
you
need
it,
please
proceed.
W
W
I
think
you
know
all
the
benefits
of
this
project
have
already
been
made
pretty
obvious.
It
offers
six
very
low
income
units
and
two
moderate
income
units,
and
it
is
that
is
a
small
contribution
compared
to
the
need
we
have
as
a
city,
but
with
a
lot
of
these
types
of
projects
with
small
contributions
that
builds
us
towards
meeting
that
need.
W
I
understand
that
the
density
bonus
is
a
bit
of
a
concern.
However,
I'd
like
to
point
out
the
way
that
the
density
bonus
Works.
Basically,
this
property
could
host
54
units
of
market
rate
housing
if
the
developer
chose
to
go
that
way.
With
the
density
bonus,
the
developer
is
going
to
make
a
trade
where
they
provide
those
six
units
of
very
low
income
and
the
two
units
of
the
moderate
income
in
exchange
that
bumps
them
up
to
a
point
where
they
can
take
advantage
of
the
35
percent
density.
W
AI
Thank
you
good
evening,
mayor
council,
members
and
City
staff.
My
name
is
Kat
selm
and
I'm,
a
member
of
the
kanejo
Climate
Coalition
and
a
resident
of
Thousand
Oaks
I
hope
that
you'll
approve
this
project
as
we're
in
the
midst
of
a
housing
crisis,
and
we
desperately
need
more
housing,
but
we're
also
in
a
climate
crisis,
and
this
calls
for
the
reduction
of
greenhouse
gas
emissions.
So
we
really
appreciate
hearing
that
the
applicant
will
include
abundant
EP
Chargers
and
will
include
all
electric
units.
AI
Building
electrification
is
a
key
part
of
reducing
climate
pollution
and
helping
to
solve
the
climate
emergency.
According
to
Rachel
golden
of
the
Sierra
Club,
there's
no
Pathway
to
stabilizing
the
climate
without
facing
gas
out
of
our
homes
and
buildings.
This
is
a
must
do
for
the
climate
in
a
livable
planet.
Building,
all
electric
can
also
help
create
a
healthier
home,
as
gas
stoves
have
been
linked
to
increased
asthma,
respiratory
illness
and
impaired
lung
function.
AI
AI
We
hope
that
you'll
approve
this
project
and
we'd
like
to
thank
the
applicant
for
going
all
electric
I'd,
also
like
to
Echo
the
last
speaker's
points
that,
when
you
increase
the
amount
of
units
that
you
are
allowing
a
project
proponent
to
build,
they
can
ultimately
build
more
affordable
units
on
that
project
and
therefore
helping
us
meet
our
Arena
needs
and
helping
meet
the
council's
goals.
So
I
think
that
that's
just
a
better
use
of
our
our
limited
resources
of
space
that
we
have
on
in
this
beautiful
city.
AI
A
AJ
Good
evening,
mayor
McNamee
and
council
members,
Danielle
Borgia,
president
CEO
of
the
Greater
Conejo
Valley
Chamber
of
Commerce
and
nice
to
see
you
all.
We
spoke
in
support
of
this
project
at
the
Planning
Commission
and
wanted
to
also
express
our
support
to
the
council.
We
feel
that
this
project
is
really
in
the
spirit
of
the
Thousand
Oaks
Pacific
plan,
delivering
a
quality
project
and
I.
AJ
Think
one
of
the
most
important
aspects
of
this
particular
project
is
the
location
we
were
just
the
mayor
and
I
were
at
a
small
business,
a
yoga
studio
that
just
opened
very
close
to
that
location.
I
just
discovered
an
excellent
Mexican
restaurant
called
the
cliff
diver
that
moved
here
last
year
from
Malibu,
that's
also
in
walking
distance
and
just
going
back
to
the
affordable
for
one
minute.
I
also
want
to
make
sure
we're
acknowledging
that
the
applicant
is
extending
the
Covenant
period
to
the
70
years.
AJ
I
think
that
is
very
significant
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
Wrecking
them.
For
that
accommodation.
We
also
have
santel
Thousand
Oaks
that
has
opened
just
down
the
way
with
tarantula
Brewing
across
and
so
I
think.
It's
really
going
to
be
bring
vibrancy
to
that
portion
of
the
Boulevard
and
would
really
appreciate
your
support
on
this
project.
Thank
you.
A
AK
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
members
of
the
city
council,
Rick
Schroeder,
president
of
many
mansions.
Many
mansions
is
a
non-profit,
affordable
housing
and
service
provider
founded
right
here
in
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks,
and
we
too
support
this
project.
This
is
a
really
a
beautiful
apartment,
complex
and
I've.
Seen
a
lot
of
apartment
complexes,
it's
beautiful,
it's
creating
more
housing,
I!
Think,
as
Danielle
just
said,
it
is
in
a
wonderful
area
just
what
the
city
needs
in
this
particular
A,
Thousand,
Oaks,
Thousand,
Oaks,
Boulevard,
Corridor
and
it
is
providing
more
affordable.
AK
Housing
I
did
want
to
address
council
members.
Newman's
comment,
though
this
obviously
was
negotiated
in
terms
of
the
number
of
affordable
units.
The
city
can
go
beyond
the
state
density
bonus
law.
That's
this
whole
separate
thing.
It
would
have
been
better
had
the
city
adopted
last
year
or
years
ago.
The
inclusionary,
housing,
ordinance
and
I
would
encourage
the
city
to
really
make
sure
that
is
adopted
and
that
the
ordinance
goes
above.
The
state
density,
bonus
law,
but
nevertheless
the
fact
that
six
very
low-income
units
are
being
created,
I
think,
is
significant.
AK
The
the
rent
levels
for
the
very
low
income
is
much
lower
than
the
very
low
than
the
low
income,
probably
the
difference
between
eight
hundred
dollars
a
month
and
thirteen
hundred
dollars
a
month
and
obviously
far
below
what
the
market
rate
is
and
also
the
fact
that
the
Restriction
is
extended
to
70
years.
So
many
many
individuals
and
families
very
low
income,
individuals
and
families
will
live
in
this
beautiful
apartment,
complex
for
many
years,
and
it'll
really
serve
many
residents
of
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks.
So
we
do
strongly
support
this
proposed
project.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
A
A
AE
You
well
as
I
was
saying
this
is
exactly
where
we,
where
we
want
to
see
housing
built
right
along
the
101
Corridor,
no
disruption
of
our
open
space
or
existing
neighborhoods
I,
really
like
the
project.
The
way
it's
been
put
together,
particularly
triple
the
green
space,
that's
required,
I
think
that's
important.
The
parklet
will
be
nice
for
the
kids
to
play
in
and
of
the
eight
affordable
units.
Six
of
them
are
very
low
income,
which
we've
been
looking
for.
That's
about
75
percent,
and
you
know
it.
AE
AE
You
haven't
had
a
lot
of
people
on
the
boulevard,
I
mean
we
have
people
on
the
boulevard
that
drive
in
and
visit
the
Boulevard
and
do
their
business
and
then
drive
out.
This
puts
people
right
in
the
heart
of
the
Boulevard
and
they'll
support
our
businesses.
They
won't
have
to
drive
as
much
hopefully
and
I
really
believe
that
when
you
add
people
to
a
community
that
attracts
the
kind
of
amenities
that
we're
looking
for
and
that's
going
to
help
the
boulevard
be
revitalized.
AE
AL
It's
interesting
because
maybe
Mr
Cohen
mentioned
it
checks
all
the
boxes
that
actually,
when
I
was
reading
the
report,
that's
the
the
thing
that
I
recognize
really
quickly.
You
guys
did
a
phenomenal
job
on
this.
My
wife
and
I
actually
went
to
cliff
diver
two
weeks
ago.
If
anyone
hasn't
been
there,
it's
a
phenomenal
great
Vibe,
great
experience.
The
food's
incredible-
and
one
thing
she
mentioned
to
me-
was
we
just
need
a
little
bit
more
people
here,
a
little
bit
more
life,
so
I
think
adding.
AL
This
will
actually
help
a
lot
of
our
retail,
the
other
thing
with
office
changing
which
we're
seeing
and
also
the
residential
challenge
we
have
of
being
so
undersupplied.
You
guys
are
right
over
the
target
with
this
one
I
think
this
is
a
great
project,
ktgy
Keith,
phenomenal
job.
This
project
looks
great
I'm
excited
about
this.
One
I
think
this
will
be
great
for
our
community.
A
AC
AC
AC
I,
certainly
don't
mean
to
put
all
that
on
this
applicant
that
that's
providing
enough
housing
at
all
income
levels
for
all
residents
of
our
city,
as
we
heard
from
earlier
tonight
from
many
residents,
is
a
primary
concern
and
no
one
applicant
is
going
to
address
that.
But
but
we
need
to
on
this
side
of
the
diocese
as
a
city
address
that
and
that's
my
concern
and
if
I
seem
concerned
about
six
being
a
relatively
small
number,
that
that
is
where
that
concern
is
coming
from.
AC
AA
AA
The
one
thing
that
I
really
am
impressed
by
and
my
compliments
to
the
property
owner
a
seven
year,
Covenant
for
very
low
income
housing
is
almost
altruistic
and
I
wanted
to
complement
the
the
applicants
team
for
bringing
that
to
us.
It's
something
that
I
hope
other
other
developers
look
at
and
decide
that
this
is
a
way
really
to
not
only
build
a
project
that
that
brings
income
into
themselves.
AA
What
also
brings
a
project
that
really
helps
the
city
not
only
meet
its
Arena
numbers
but
become
a
city
for
everybody
and
so
I.
My
compliments
to
the
development
team
for
bringing
that
to
us
and
the
the
system
here
worked
once
again,
so
I
think
for
me.
This
project,
as
has
been
mentioned,
does
check
all
the
boxes.
A
I
can
Echo
some
of
these
same
comments
that
my
fellow
council
members
have
made.
I
appreciate
the
applicant
listening
to
council
the
first
time
this
came
forth.
You've
addressed
those
challenges
that
were
brought
to
you
parking
being
specific,
the
one
that
I
brought
the
building
is
beautiful.
The
amenities
will
be
enjoyed
by
the
people
there.
The
70
years
will
Outlast
the
quality
or
the
existence
or
the
building
itself,
so
very
generous
on
your
part
to
make
it
70
year
Covenant
as
compared
to
the
traditional
one.
AL
AL
A
A
C
A
AM
AM
AM
AM
The
draft
document
was
posted
on
the
city's
website
and
at
City
Hall
for
30
days.
Attachments
to
the
staff
report
provides
an
action
plan
summary
all
comments
that
were
received
during
this
period.
In
addition
to
comments
that
I
heard
tonight
will
be
included
in
the
final
action
plan
document
and
submitted
to
head.
AM
AM
The
single-family
Rehabilitation
activities
will
benefit
30,
low-income
units,
both
Habitat
for
Humanity
and
safe,
will
each
receive
a
cdpg
grant
to
run
their
own
mobile
home
rehab
program.
The
safe
program
will
focus
on
replacing
hvacs
roofs
and
water
heaters,
while
habitats
program
will
focus
on
painting
ramps,
flooring,
Plumbing
electrical
work,
walk-in
showers
and
grab
bar
installation.
AM
A
You
for
the
presentation
for
questions.
In
addition
to
yourself,
we
have
Mr
Calvin,
Parker,
community
development,
director
and
Scott
colwitz
interim
planning,
division
manager,
Council
any
questions
for
staff,
no
questions.
Let's
move
to
public
speakers.
We
have
no
public
speakers
at
the
science.
So
let's
will
close
the
hearing
and
we'll
go
to
council
discussion.
I.
Think
discussion
on
Council
Mr,
Adam.
AE
Well,
thank
you
mayor.
You
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
affordable
housing.
The
best,
affordable
housing
is
the
units
that
are
already
built,
and
you
know,
because
we
just
have
to
maintain
them
and
that's
exactly
what
these
funds
do
for
very
low
and
low
income
people.
That's
where
these
funds
are
directed
I'm,
particularly
happy
to
see
money
heading
to
our
mobile
home
parks.
Senior
Alliance
for
empowerment
is
an
advocacy
group
that
represents
mobile
home
parks,
they're,
getting
a
substantial
amount
of
money.
AE
In
fact,
since
2016
we
sent
over
750
thousand
dollars
to
safe
that
goes
directly
to
maintaining
mobile
homes
and
Habitat
for
Humanity
concentrates
really
on
the
same
thing.
They
work
in
the
mobile
home
parks
for
different
reasons
and
maintenance,
Etc
and
we've,
given
them
four
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
over
the
last
time.
So
that's
a
million
and
a
quarter
to
support
true,
affordable
housing
and
it
you
know
it
does
show
you
that
the
the
council
understands
the
importance
of
mobile
home
parks
and
the
affordability
aspects.
AC
Newman
I
concur
completely
with
council
member
Adams
comments.
The
best
way
to
keep
to
prevent
homelessness
is
to
keep
someone
who
is
currently
housed
in
their
home
and
that's
what
these
funds
do
and
I'm
grateful
to
for
all
the
work
that
staff
does
to
ensure
that
we
have
funding
available
for
our
residents
who
need
it.
Thank
you.
Any.
A
AL
AL
C
AN
A
public
hearing
is
required
in
order
to
legally
establish
fees
that
are
charged
to
the
public.
The
format
is
similar
to
the
study
session
that
we
held
last
month.
This
hearing
was
noticed
to
the
public
per
requirements
in
order
to
be
transparent
about
the
topic
and
discussion
and
provide
ample
notice
for
interested
parties
to
send
in
comments
or
speak
tonight.
If
adopted,
fees
will
go
into
effect
on
July
1st
2023..
AN
This
action
tonight
is
the
third
step
in
our
fiscal
Year's
2023
through
2025
biennial
budget
process,
staff
has
been
diligently
working
on
our
budget
process
and
the
user
fees
in
specific.
Since
mid-2022,
we
also
presented
the
proposed
user
fees
to
the
finance
audit
committee
on
March.
9Th,
the
user
fees
are
part
of
the
city's
proposed
fiscal
year
2023-24
and
fiscal
year.
2024-25
biennial
budget,
the
proposed
user
fee
manual,
includes
261
fees
with
approximately
660
sub-component
fee
items.
AN
Just
a
quick
reminder:
we
went
over
this
last
time,
but
there
is
a
legal
difference
between
a
tax
and
a
fee
proposition
26
established
what
constitutes
just
attacks,
essentially
a
levy
charge
or
exaction
that
is
imposed
by
a
government
that
doesn't
meet
one
of
the
seven
exceptions
set
forth
in
the
proposition
to
be
a
fee.
A
fee,
on
the
other
hand,
is
a
rate
charged
to
an
individual
or
a
group
that
receives
a
private
benefit
from
Services
provided
by
the
city.
AN
So,
as
I
mentioned,
there
are
seven
exceptions
which
are
listed
here
on
the
slide
that
are
included
in
proposition
26
to
a
charge
being
classified
as
a
tax
each
fee
in
the
proposed
user
fees
manual.
Delineates,
which
exception
applies
to
that
fee
so
to
city
council
and
the
public
can
be
assured
that
due
diligence
was
performed
to
ensure
that
every
fee
listed
in
the
user
fees
manual
is
in
fact
a
fee
and
not
a
tax.
AN
There
are
several
common
fee,
Concepts
that
guide
the
development
of
user
fees
by
local
governments.
Besides
meeting
one
of
the
seven
exceptions,
a
fee
must
also
be
based
on
the
cost
of
the
service,
provided
governments
can
only
legally
charge
the
user
what
it
costs
the
city
to
provide
the
service,
excluding
fines,
penalties
and
rent
the
FEMA
specifically
benefit
those
who
are
paying
the
charge.
The
fee
must
not
unintentionally,
be
subsidized,
which
is
insured
by
performing
cost
of
services
studies,
and
it
must
be
reasonable
and
not
arbitrary.
AN
The
city
has
a
full
cost
recovery
policy
when
it
comes
to
setting
fees
based
on
our
commitment
to
fiscal
sustainability,
our
goal
is
for
the
fee
Revenue
to
cover
the
cost
of
Staff,
providing
that
service
to
the
user.
So
it
is
not
subsidized
by
General
taxpayers
when
a
fee
is
set
under
full
cost
recovery.
That
means
that
the
general
taxpayer
is
subsidizing.
The
private
benefit
that
a
user
receives.
AN
The
proposed
user
fee
manual
considered
tonight
is
comprised
of
development
and
non-development
user
fees,
as
I
mentioned,
the
fees
cover
services
from
each
department,
such
as
various
building,
permit
fees,
rental
of
City
facilities,
development
impact
fees
such
as
our
traffic
impact
fees,
are
governed
under
the
mitigation
fee
act
AB
1600,
and
we
do
an
annual
report
on
that.
Our
fines
and
penalties
rates
and
charges
for
White,
Water
and
Wastewater,
and
our
assessments
for
lighting
and
Landscaping
districts
are
also
included.
AN
The
proposed
user
fee
manual
is
broken
out
into
six
different
sections.
That
first
section
includes
a
fee
details
sheet
for
each
user
fee,
which
includes
a
variety
of
information
regarding
the
fee,
including
the
amount
of
the
fee.
Of
course,
the
second
section
of
the
manual
includes
the
comparison
of
the
user
fees
that
we
presented
at
the
study
session
to
what
is
being
proposed
tonight.
That
third
section
includes
city
council
exceptions.
The
fourth
section
includes
non-compliance
fees,
which
are
fees
that
are
charged
to
users
that
commenced
on
their
activity
prior
to
receiving
approval
from
the
city.
AN
To
do
so,
and
the
fifth
section
includes
development
impact
fees
with
the
six
section
included
resolutions
that
are
recommended
to
be
adopted
by
council
tonight
just
to
cover
a
few
minor
changes
that
happen.
Since
the
study
session
in
our
community
development
department
building
feed
b11
was
removed
from
the
user-free
mantle
since
the
last
study
session
at
the
April
4th
2023
city
council,
meeting
city
council
repealed
the
residential
resale
requirements,
negating
the
need
for
this
fee.
AN
The
cultural
Affairs
fee
ca22
are
labor
rates
for
Technical.
Services
has
also
been
revised
since
the
study
session.
This
revision
is
due
to
a
review
of
labor
rates
of
theater
Personnel
after
the
study
session
and
a
review
of
the
theater's
comparable
study
which
had
our
City
theaters
at
the
lower
range
of
labor
rates.
So
it's
minor
revisions
to
increase
those
labor
fees,
please
fee
Le,
05,
the
administrative
fee
for
towing
of
certain
Vehicles
has
also
been
revised
since
the
study
session.
AN
This
revision
is
due
to
the
County
of
Ventura
increasing
their
trophy
in
March
2023
from
200
to
210
dollars.
So
we
reflected
that
Revision
in
this
manual
and
then
the
Public
Works
fee
pw25.
The
appeal
of
administrative
or
traffic
and
Transportation
Commission
decision
has
one
sub
fee
that
was
reduced
based
on
the
recommendation
of
both
the
finance
audit
committee
and
then
approved
by
city
council
at
the
study
session,
and
that
fee
was
reduced
from
400
to
250..
AN
I
would
like
to
thank
Carrie
Matson,
our
Deputy
Finance
director
Brent
zakaida,
our
budget
officer,
Ryan
Roman,
our
senior
financial
analyst,
all
from
our
finance
department.
That
spent
a
lot
of
time
putting
this
together
over
the
past
six
plus
months
and
then
also
staff
from
each
of
the
Departments,
as
they
are
also
heavily
involved
in
preparing
this
user
fee
manual
and
with
that
I
would
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
A
AC
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
very
much.
Miss
buscarino
for
your
presentation.
I
want
to
begin
by
complimenting
you
and
your
team
on
a
magnificent
job.
Well,
all
of
us
should
be
very
grateful
to
live
in
a
city
that
has
such
good
responsible,
serious,
competent
fiscal
management
and
you've
done
a
wonderful
job
with
that,
and
it
shows
not
only
in
these
fees
but
in
the
budget,
that's
currently
under
development,
and
that
that's
a
real
benefit
for
every
resident
here.
AC
AC
D
AC
There's
a
baby
bath
water
thing:
I,
don't
want
to
go
on
the
record
saying
no.
These
fees
are
terrible
because
I
don't
believe
that
I
disagree
strongly
that
one
of
those
fees
should
be
in
there
in
the
first
place,
as
we've
discussed
twice
before
that
fee,
we
initially
said
it
would
be
set
very
low
and
250,
as
as
you
heard
previously,
is
not
low
for
many
people
and
process
wise
I.
AC
AE
AE
AE
AB
AE
Reduction
from
the
cost
and
the
City
and
the
council
has
been
committed
to
full
cost
recovery
of
taxpayer
dollars
and
this
particular
fee
is
an
80
reduction
from
what
that
would
actually
cost.
So
it's
not
like
it
hasn't,
been
reduced,
and
it
just
seems
to
me:
I,
don't
want
to
politicize
the
fees
and
it
seems
to
me
by
pulling
this
one,
it's
politicizing
it.
This
is
a
fee
schedule,
it's
not
a
political
issue.
We've
already
discussed
the
fee,
I'm.
AC
AE
AO
B
AE
A
AA
Engler
go
ahead,
no
I,
think
I,
think
and
I
appreciate.
Council
member
members,
Newman's
interest
in
this
topic
and
I
appreciate
it.
However,
I
think
we've
already
litigated
this
at
a
prior
meeting
and
we
we
directed
staff
to
come
to
us
with
this
with
this
fee,
to
pull
it
out
at
this
moment
seems
to
be
redundant
to
do
so,
but
I
appreciate
the
fact
you
have
that
interest
in
it,
but
we've
already
we
direct
a
staff
to
bring
this
very
fee
back
to
us
in
this
document.
AA
A
AL
Ahead:
it's
okay,
it's
actually
Mr
angler
kind
of
nailed
it,
but
really
I.
Think
it's
important
for
us
to
be
mindful
that
we
have
a
cost
to
do
business
and
right
here
we're
just
going
over
what
our
fees
are,
so
that
we
don't
agree
a
loss,
so
I'd
actually
prefer
keep
them
all
together
and
just
voting
on
the
financial
aspect
of
the
fees.
Let's.
AC
AE
AE
AC
Ahead,
David
sorry,
as
I
stated
twice
before
at
two
previous
hearings,
I
think
the
question
of
whether
crossing
guards
get
cut
or
not
is
so
important
that
it
should
be
heard
directly
by
Council.
Therefore,
it
should
not
be
heard
by
staff.
Therefore,
there
is
no
cost
recovery
or
or
a
fee
that
would
be
necessary.
That's
been
my
position
well.
AE
AC
AC
We
have
different
interpretations
about
what
a
no
vote
on
the
fee
means
in
in
my
mind
and
I
think
I
know
best.
What's
in
my
mind,
and
no
vote
means
that
I
don't
approve
of
Staff
doing
the
work.
That
counsel
should
be
doing,
not
that
that
staff
should
do
work
and
not
be
paid
for
it.
I
haven't
said
that
I'm.
AE
AC
Not
I'm
not
suggesting
what
you
said
at
all
I'm
suggesting
that
we
should
do.
We
should
do
the
work
and
not
staff
in
any
event,
Mr
Mayor,
okay,
I
can
count,
and
it's
quite
clear
to
me
that
other
council
members
are
not
willing
to
support
my
proposal,
so
I
I
want
to
withdraw
that
proposal
and
propose
a
straight
up
or
down.
Vote
and
I
will
vote
against
this,
not
because
I'm
against
the
process,
but
because,
as
I've
tried
to
make
abundantly
clear
twice
before,
we
are
shirking
responsibility
that
is
properly
ours,
not
staffs.
AC
A
AE
A
AE
AC
A
A
A
motion
was
made
to
remove
one
of
the
six
161
of
the
fees
whatever
the
number
is.
He
has
withdrawn
that
he
has
made
a
motion
to
accept
all
of
them,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
to
accept
all
the
fees.
The
way
they
exist
right
now.
Are
we
all
clear
on
that?
Second?
Is
there
any
more
discussion
before
I
call
for
the
motion?
Mr
Engler,
any
any.
AA
No
just
when,
when
we
discussed
this
in
council
member
Newman
reminded
me
when
we
first
discussed
this
a
couple
of
months
ago,
I
did
I
did
mention
to
Mr
Newman
that
this
was
the
place
to
discuss
this.
So
I
understand
and
I
appreciate
him
bringing
this
up
as
I
mentioned,
but
the
I
think
we
have
already,
as
I
mentioned,
we've
already
discussed
this
and
brought
this
very
fee
back
to
us.
So
I
I
could
support
the
motion,
as
presented
by
Mr
Newman
and
I'll.
N
AC
AL
G
A
AP
AP
These
two
projects,
I'm
highlighting
tonight,
are
along
Lynn
Road
shown
in
red
and
on
Hillcrest
Drive
shown
in
blue
they've,
been
combined
into
one
presentation,
since
they
share
similar
Design
Elements
for
bike
lane
improvements
and
are
funded
through
the
same
grant
funding
sources.
Both
projects
will
improve
safety
for
all
modes
of
transportation,
particularly
pedestrians
and
cyclists.
AP
There
are
four
types
of
bike
Lanes
in
California
and
are
classified
as
class,
one,
which
is
a
trail
where
both
pedestrian
and
cyclists
are
totally
separated
from
traffic.
A
class
two
is
a
painted
stripe
bike
lane
class
three
is
a
shared
roadway.
These
can
be
used
in
low-speed
residential
streets
as
well
as
arterials
such
as
Thousand,
Oaks,
Boulevard
and
class.
4
is
a
separated
bike
lane.
This
is
a
type
of
bike
lane
that
is
being
proposed
on
sections
of
the
two
projects
we're
presenting
tonight.
AP
AP
The
most
significant
changes
are
within
the
Caltrans
is
right
away
near
the
101
freeway,
which
currently
has
no
bike
Lanes
at
all.
Within
the
cities
right
away,
this
project
will
convert
existing
buffered
Class
2
bike,
lane
to
class
4
separated
bike
lane
with
flexible
and
reflective
delineated
posts
and
construct,
incomplete
sidewalks.
That's
pending
securing
additional
funding.
AP
The
segments
of
the
project
highlighted
on
this
slide
is
located
within.
Caltrans
is
right
away.
The
needed
improvements
in
this
area
will
require
spending
a
significant
part
of
the
schedule
and
the
cost
here,
we'll
restruct
the
roadway
convert.
Note:
Northbound
travel,
Lane
number
three
to
a
class
3
bike
lane,
modify
the
bridge
concrete
barrier
and
fencing
and
improve
the
uncontrolled
pedestrian
Crossings
with
rectangular
rapid
flashing
beacons.
AP
Since
75
percent
of
the
project
cost
is
associated
with
improvements
in
the
Cal
chances
right
away.
I
would
like
to
highlight
this
segment
here.
We
will
install
Bike
push
button,
modify
the
signal
head
and
on-ramp
signal
in
order
to
prohibit.
Turning
when
the
bike
signal
is
on,
add
high
visibility,
bike
striping
at
both
ramps,
we
will
also
upgrade
the
bridge
safety
elements
to
comply
with
current
standards,
including
on
the
West
Side,
replace
existing
barrier
with
a
taller
new,
concrete
barrier
and
fencing
on
the
east
side,
replacing
existing
fencing
to
match
the
west
side.
AP
Re-Striping
of
the
roadway
includes
width
of
the
southbound
Lanes
travel
Lanes
will
be
reduced
to
12
feet
and
reduce
Northbound
travel
Lanes
from
three
lanes
to
two
and
lastly,
since
currently
no
bike
Lanes
exist
on
the
bridge.
We
will
add
class
4
bike
Lanes
on
on
both
sides,
both
Northbound
and
southbound,
directions.
AP
To
achieve
this,
the
travel
Lane
number
three
and
the
Northbound
direction
will
be
repurposed
to
the
new
class
4
bike
lane.
However,
we
will
be
able
to
squeeze
in
the
class
4
bike
lane
in
the
southbound
Direction
without
any
loss
of
travel
Lanes
in
the
southbound
ramps.
We
will
add
high
visibility.
Bike
striping
will
reconstruct
curb
ramps
across
Lynn
Road
and
reduce
Lane
number
two
width
in
both
Northbound
and
southbound
directions
to
12
feet,
add
class
4
bike
lanes
and
install
more
crosswalk
with
yield
line
and
Rapid
flashing
beacons
outside
of
the
U.S
overcrossing
area.
AP
AP
The
first
phase
of
this
project
starts
with
approving
The
Cooperative
agreement
before
you
tonight,
in
order
to
allow
Caltrans
to
provide
their
support
and
oversight
for
preparing
and
preparing
the
appropriate
planning
and
programming
documents.
These
documents
consist
of
extensive
studies,
including
a
detailed
traffic
study
to
properly
assess
the
impact
of
the
overcrossing
modifications
due
to
the
multi-step
Caltrans
oversight
process.
We
expect
to
complete
the
design
process
and
begin
the
construction
phase
in
2027,
with
council's
approval.
AP
AP
The
project
limits
here
are
from
Moorpark
Road
to
Lynn
Road,
which
is
a
one
and
a
quarter
mile
long
six-lane,
divided
roadway
with
race,
Center
median
and
without
any
bike.
Lanes
improvements
in
this
area
include
converting
travel,
Lane,
number
three
to
class
4
bike
lane
in
both
directions,
shown
in
red
and
constructing
the
incomplete
sidewalk
segment
from
McLeod
Avenue
to
Lynn
Road
shown
in
blue
the
roadway
capacity
after
these
improvements
will
be
more
than
ample
to
serve
existing
and
future
traffic
volume
projections.
AP
AP
AP
same
year.
A
feedback.
The
feedback
from
a
questionnaire
resulted
in
230
responses
with
73
percent.
In
favor
of
the
improvements,
our
presentation
to
the
traffic
Commission
in
February
of
this
year
was
the
first
step
in
our
public
Outreach
continued
by
this
department
report.
In
order
to
offer
the
public
opportunities
to
provide
feedback
to
the
city
on
the
proposed
enhancements,
both
projects
will
have
dedicated
websites
and,
as
we
move
ahead,
we'll
conduct
further
Outreach
efforts
for
both
projects,
including
stateholder
engagements.
AP
The
recommendations
are
in
the
staff
report
and
the
staff
is
available
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have.
This
concludes
our
presentation
for
the
Lynn
Road
and
Hillcrest
Drive
bike
lane
and
pedestrian
improvements
project,
and
we
would
be
glad
to
answer
project
related
questions.
Thank
you.
Thank.
AC
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
very
much
for
this
great
project,
these
great
projects
and
your
presentation.
Just
one
question
on
the
green
strips
that
are
that
are
going
in
in
other
places
in
the
city
where
they've
gone
in
and
they're
striped.
It's
almost
like
riding
over
rumble
strips
and
I'm
wondering
whether
the
green
paint
that's
in
use
is
a
DOT
requirement
or,
if
there's
anything
that
could
be
done
to
make
that
green,
the
striping
smoother
for
cyclists.
AQ
Yeah
I
can
help
field
that
one,
not
our
headari
city
engineer.
We've
used
that
green
striping
ourselves
on
West,
Lake,
Boulevard
and
a
few
other
locations
and
haven't
experienced
that
I
think
maybe
we're
using
a
more
more
mild
mix
or
a
lot
less
coarse
or
harsh
mix
and
potentially
is
being
used
in
other
areas.
So
I
haven't
heard
that
before
I
know,
we
have
some
members
of
the
bicycle
advisory
team
here
tonight.
They
can
maybe
comment
on
that
and
if
we're
doing
something
that
is
not
desirable
by
the
public,
we
can
certainly
reevaluate
that.
AC
AA
Mayor
Mr
Engler,
thank
you,
Miss
mayor
and
it's
good
to
hear
that
we
compare
favorably
to
Santa
Monica,
that's
great,
just
one
real,
quick
question
on
the
Outreach.
You
have
done
so
far
in
the
Outreach
that
you're
going
to
be
doing
in
the
future.
I
know.
In
the
past,
the
mall
maester
was
a
little
concerned
about
access
to
their
mall,
and
things
like
that.
Have
they
have
you
had
much
feedback
from
them
on
this
project?
Can
we
expect
that
to
happen
as
well.
AQ
AQ
That's
out
there
who
indicated
that
they
strongly
support
this
project
too,
because
currently
for
them
to
make
it
exit
out
of
the
fire
station
onto
Hillcrest,
they're
they're,
right,
they're,
jumping
right
in
the
travel
Lane,
and
this
would
actually
give
them
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
to
enter
and
so
on,
but
the
mall
did
not
have
any
harsh
or
negative
reaction
at
that
time.
It
was
more
of
a
observationary
and
semi-neutral,
but
you
know,
obviously
more
discussions
will
need
to
be
had
with
them.
AQ
The
I
would
like
to
point
out
that
the
traveling
I
mean
this
additional.
These
buffer
bike
Lanes
would
drop
at
the
intersection,
so
there
would
still
be
the
capacity
to
turn
in
at
those
intersections,
and
the
intersection
capacity
would
be
preserved
to
the
greatest
extent
possible,
so
that
will
still
assist
in
the
Ingress
and
egress
out
of
the
main
intersections
and
streets
that
cross
Hillcrest,
which
would
help
alleviate
a
lot
that
concern.
AA
AL
So
my
dad's,
an
avid
bicyclist,
he's
going
to
be
very
happy
with
Trent
here
I.
Imagine
that
as
well.
The
question
I
really
have
for
I
know
you
mentioned
it
went
to
track
traffic
commission
for
the
traffic
study.
Can
you
talk
about
how
it
impacts
traffic
moving
from
three
lanes
to
two
on
Hillcrest
Drive,
not
only
today
but
forward-facing,
and
is
there
any
challenges
with
us
creating
over
congestion?
By
doing
this.
AQ
Yeah
I
can
touch
on
that
as
well.
You
know,
most
of
our
boulevards
in
town
are
two
lanes,
I
mean
if
you
look
at
the
majority
of
Lynn
Road.
You
know
you
look
at
Thousand,
Oaks
Boulevard
and
you
look
at
Westlake
Boulevard
and
by
and
large
two
lanes
are,
is
the
the
max
of
our
of
our
city
and
that
serves
well
for
for
all
those
roadways
in
the
in
this
case
of
Hillcrest,
the
current
traffic
volume
is
19
000
vehicles
per
day.
AQ
That's
actually
the
maximum
volume.
It's
been
less,
obviously
the
last
couple
of
years.
There's
the
volumes
haven't
fully
rebounded
to
pre-covered
levels
and
or
exceeded
them
yet,
and
the
current
Railway
capacity
with
the
three
lanes
is
55
000,
so
the
roadway
is
quite
over
designed
as
it
is
right
now,
and
even
if
we
go
to
the
two
lanes,
the
roadway
capacity
is
37
000
Vehicles
a
day
and
there's
only
19
000
there
currently.
AQ
AQ
These
are
relatively
modest
in
terms
of
what
is
being
installed
to
create
this
buffered
bike
lane,
and
so
should
there
be
a
point
in
time:
30
50
between
20
70
years
down
the
road
to
reevaluate
the
situation
and
repurpose
it
for
some
other
means
or
let
you
know
automated
buses
or
other
other
Transportation
modes
that
may
transpire
or
come
up
at
this
point
in
time.
It
would
be
relatively
easy
to
do
that.
Okay,.
AL
Yeah,
this
actually
question
is
maybe
more
for
curiosity,
the
maximum
cars
for
two
lane.
You
said
37
000,
that's
Max,
Capacity
where's,
the
like
sweet
spot,
like
is
37
000,
it's
congested
and
we're
all
frustrated
right.
Where
do
we
want
to
be
and
do
we
feel
like
there's
a
lot
of
room
still
between
the
19
000
and
the
ultimate?
You
know
if
we
could
have
you
know
perfect
scenario
and
we're
not
bumper
to
bumper
for
too
long
et
cetera.
AQ
So
you
could
go
up
to
you,
know
about
25
000
Vehicles
a
day
and
still
be
in
a
acceptable
or
common
type
of
level
of
service
that
you
experience
around
town
right
now
and
a
lot
of
that
is
during
the
peak
hour.
You
know
the
majority
of
the
day.
As
everybody
knows,
there
there's
quite
a
lot
of
capacity
on
our
roadways
and
that's
well.
AL
AQ
AL
A
I'd
like
to
say
that
bicycle
safety
is
Paramount.
In
my
mind's
eye
years
ago,
we
had
a
bicyclist
on
West
Lake
Boulevard,
who
was
hit
by
a
vehicle
to
the
point
where
he
was
projected
over
off.
The
road
took
him
a
while
to
find
the
deceased
bicyclist
and
it
was
hit
by
a
driver
who
was
in
distraction
by
texting.
A
A
A
A
Okay
I'm
with
you,
because
sometimes
it
can
be
very
crowded
on
that
overpass
and
that's
not
even
at
peak
hours
as
much
as
I'd
love
to
keep
the
bike
lanes,
because
it's
going
to
be
a
wonderful
mode
of
travel
and
maybe
at
one
point
some
land
far
far
away
and
some
distant
time.
We
connect
all
our
bike
Lanes.
So
that
way,
it
all
is
a
continuous
loop
throughout
our
city
with
protection
for
the
bicyclists.
AQ
All
of
that
is
going
to
be
further
studied
yeah
before
the
project
were
to
go
into
final
design
or
construction.
So
one
of
our
first
steps
as
we
initiate
this
project
and
receive
this
Grant
and
begin
the
design
process
and
the
environmental
review
process
is
to
to
double
check
and
study
all
of
those
elements
in
Greater
detail
and
that
that
is
the
one
that
for
sure
will
be
we'll
be
studied
and
Caltrans
will
be
studying
it
with
us,
because
it's
actually
their
facility
and
the
overpass
over
the
101.
A
We
can
do
to
ensure
bicyclist
safety.
All
four,
so
whatever
we
can
do
in
that
regard
is
is
great.
So
in
some
ways,
even
though,
as
much
as
you
theorize
and
project
out
and
look
at
the
traffic
count
at
certain
times
of
the
day
oftentimes,
you
never
figure
it
out
until
actually
it's
put
in
there
and
you
take
a
look
and
see
what
happens
with
driver
behavior
and
how
traffic
flows
any
other
Council
questions
here,
nope.
A
W
This
should
be
the
last
time
I'm
speaking
with
you
tonight,
so
my
name
is
Jackson
Piper
from
unincorporated
Newbury
Park
I'm,
a
member
of
Teo
livability,
Action,
Network,
and
also
Ventura
County
UMB,
advocating
for
housing
throughout
Ventura
County
I
have
both
a
very
positive
and
a
very
concerned
reaction
to
this
proposable
for
us
positive,
because
the
scope
of
it
is
great,
it's
great
to
see
the
potential
for
bike
lane
improvements
and
sidewalk
improvements
on
both
Lynn
and
Hillcrest.
I
live
off
of
Lynn.
There
is
no
way
I
would
ever
cycle
on
it.
W
The
way
it
is
now,
but
as
a
planner
as
someone
concerned
about
climate
change,
as
someone
who
is
advocating
for
more
housing
in
the
city,
I,
don't
feel
that
what's
proposed
is
adequate
enough.
Lynn
Road
is
basically
a
freeway.
You've
got
a
50
mile
per
hour.
Speed
limit,
which
means
nothing.
You've
got
a
design
speed
that
allows
up
to
70
miles
an
hour,
maybe
and
to
have
those
metal
posts,
be
the
only
thing
separating
people
on
bikes
from
the
vehicles
that
are
going
at
high
speeds.
That
are
thousands
of
pounds.
W
It's
not
a
good
idea.
It
doesn't
accomplish
safety
for
those
bicyclists
and
it
doesn't
accomplish
in
the
larger
scheme
the
necessary
mode
shift
from
drivers
going
short
distances
in
our
community
two
people
riding
on
bikes
to
cover
those
distances
which,
factually
in
cities
Across
America
most
trips
are
three
miles
or
less.
W
I
know
it
would
cost
a
lot
more
money
to
add
in
that
kind
of
protection,
but
to
develop
bicycle
facilities
without
that
protection
means
that
it's
not
really
going
to
serve
anyone,
except
for
maybe
a
few
Brave
recreational
cyclists,
and
we
really
need
to
think
of
cycling
as
transport
and
get
people
comfortable
with
using
bicyclists.
And
the
only
way
to
do
that
on
arterial
Road,
like
Lynn
15.
A
AR
Hello,
my
name
is
Clint
folks
I'm,
a
resident
of
Thousand
Oaks
and
a
member
of
The
Conejo
Climate
Coalition
and
Ventura
County
embi
I'd
like
to
voice
my
support
for
the
proposed
bike
lanes
and
sidewalk
with
qualifications
in
order
to
reduce
climate
emissions
to
meet
the
safest
warming
scenario
of
1.5
degrees.
Celsius
experts
tell
us
that
cities
need
to
focus
on
increasing
density,
mass
transit,
cycling
and
walking.
The
data
is
clear.
Electrification
alone
will
not
be
enough
to
make
the
Urgent
change
needed
to
protect
our
planet's
resources.
AR
We
need
to
create
a
more
walkable
bikeable
City
that
also
supports
Pathways
for
Mobility
devices
used
by
persons
with
disabilities.
I'd
also
like
to
request
that
the
new
bike
Lanes
be
truly
protected
by
using
solid,
concrete
barriers
or
Jersey
barriers.
The
case
for
investment
in
cycling
and
walkability
is
not
just
good
Financial
sense.
It
is
essential
for
healthier,
safer
and
more
Equitable.
Cities
and
studies
show
that
protected
bicycle
Lanes
reduce
fatalities
for
all
Road
users
that
includes
drivers
of
automobiles,
sidewalk
and
bike.
AR
A
AS
What
up
Council,
not
comedian,
though
don't
worry,
let's
see
here,
new
houses
are
being
built
on
the
boulevard.
The
boulevard
also
needs
bike.
Lanes!
Don't
want
to
leave
that
out
of
this
on
the
overpass,
let
me
paint
a
picture
for
you.
You're,
coming
from
Lynn
Ranch
you're
trying
to
go
across
the
freeway.
The
bike
lane
puts
you
in
between
the
right
turning
lane
and
the
first
straight
Lane,
which
is
the
right
on-ramp
Lane.
AS
So
as
I
go
across
the
intersection
of
Hillcrest
I
am
then
put
in
the
right
turning
lane
onto
the
freeway,
and
that
left
lane
also
has
the
option
to
turn
left
so
there's
a
negotiation
that
happens
there
with
drivers.
Well,
look
at
them,
I'll
put
my
hand
out
and
I'll
actually
get
in
front
of
the
cars
in
the
Middle
Lane.
AS
It's
a
very
stressful
intersection
to
to
accommodate
when
I'm
on
the
bridge,
I
frequently
play
out
in
my
head
what
it
would
be
like
to
fall
over
into
any
of
the
six
Lanes
of
Highway,
the
the
barriers
lower
than
this
desk,
and
when
I'm
up
on
my
bike,
I'm,
just
I,
don't
want
to
fall.
So
getting
a
bike
lane
getting
a
fence,
there
would
be
very
good
and
very
safe.
AS
There
was
also
talk
about
Costco,
making
an
easement
on
the
horse
path
next
to
the
Sprouts.
That
was
something
that
Kathy
Noam
was
working
on.
The
class
IV
bike.
Lanes
I
want
to
Echo
the
comment
that
we
really
need:
physical
barriers,
Flex
posts,
really
don't
work
before
I
go
into
what
I
would
like?
What
can
we
do
now?
That
would
be
very
cheap,
is
Rumble
stripping
the
road
in
between
that
barrier.
AS
Just
on
the
inside
of
the
outside
Lane
I
know
how
I
reacted,
rumble
strips
as
a
driver
and
I
immediately
correct
my
driving.
So
that's
something
we
can
do
now.
What
I
would
propose
is
either
planter
boxes
if
we
want
to
keep
them
removable
planter
boxes,
I
think
K
rails
are
ugly
I.
Think
we
put
in
the
white
Flex
posts
the
communities
you
know,
lose
it
they're
ugly.
AS
You
know
we
have
a
very
beautiful
town
with
really
great
standards
and
so
I
think
an
extra
cost
in
the
protection
to
make
it
beautiful
is
is
very
worth
it
and
yeah
cars
are
replaceable.
People
aren't
and
then
Hillcrest.
There
is
actually
a
bike
path
along
the
The
Oaks
side
of
Hillcrest
I
hardly
ever
use
it,
but
it
is.
There
it'd
be
nice
to
get
bike
Lanes
on
the
other
side,
15.
A
AS
AT
Currently
this
project
really
needs
to
move
forward.
Hillcrest
is
a
major
thoroughfare
for
cyclists
from
the
Eastern
end
of
town
to
Amgen
and
a
few
other
small
Industries
out
there
to
the
West.
There's
no
other
way
to
get
there
except
Hillcrest
on
the
north
side
of
the
freeway
and
doing
it
on
the
south
side
is
a
convoluted
detour.
AT
Ventu
Park
is
nicer,
but
it
gets
you
onto
Hillcrest
and
then,
if
you're
east
of
there
there's
no
way
to
get
there
without
going
Thousand
Oaks
without
going
across
Lynn
Road
the
proposals
all
sound
good
I'm,
not
all
that
crazy
about
class
4
bike,
Lanes
I,
just
like
having
Stripes.
That
tells
me
where
I'm
supposed
to
be
and
tells
the
cars
where
they're
supposed
to
be,
and
as
my
bumper
sticker
says,
every
lane
is
a
bike
lane.
AT
AQ
Yes
sure,
just
to
add
to
the
some
of
the
public
comments
and
just
piggying
back
on
what
JC
just
indicated
this
was
before
you
tonight
is
to
accept
the
Grant
and
and
sign
the
Cooperative
agreement
with
Caltrans
and
kind
of
start
the
process
for
the
project.
A
lot
of
these
options
can
be
evaluated.
I
I
can
say
that,
what's
in
the
Grant
and
was
able
to
be
funded
by
the
grant
is
the
flexible
post
which
they
do
have
a
base
on
them.
AQ
It's
not
just
a
post
sitting
by
itself,
so
it
definitely
will
catch
the
driver's
attention
should
they
strike
it.
Rigid
elements
more
robust
or
rigid
elements
were
not
chosen
because
of
the
high
speeds
on
these
streets
and
the
potential
more
severe
vehicle
collisions
by
putting
obstacles.
Basically
in
the
roadway,
in
fact,
there's
been
some
studies
of
Vehicles
if
they're
at
that
speed
hitting
something
potentially
getting
Airborne.
So
you
know,
as
mentioned
earlier
they're
similar
to
rumble
strips.
AE
AE
AL
AE
Go
to
New
York
to
skate
them,
but
so
maybe
a
little
bit
similar
to
the.
What
do
you
call
them?
K-Rail,
yeah
type
thing:
okay,
that's
good!
So
what
I
hear
you
saying
is
you
know
we
got
a
10
million
dollar
Grant
here
and
we
want
to
put
in
some
bike
lanes
and
you'd,
be
open
to
more
enhancements
safety
enhancements.
Would
you
be
open
to
the
rumble
strip
idea.
AO
AQ
What
will
be
necessary
if
the
delineators
themselves,
with
the
bases
at
some
particular
frequency
is,
is
sufficient?
Then
you,
you
may
not
need
additional
rumble
strips
between
them,
but
that,
if
not,
those
can
be
added
yeah,
whatever
we
can
afford
or
squeeze
into
the
Grant
and
provide
us
the
greatest
protection.
We
can.
Okay.
AE
AE
Bring
up
those
rumble
strips
because
the
Santa
Rosa
Road
has
rumble
strips
and
boy.
They
definitely
get
your
attention
if
your
tire
drifts
over
onto
one
of
them.
You
know
it's
quite
a
loud
noise
in
your
realize.
You
got
to
get
straightened
out,
so
I
think
they
they
might
be
an
extra
layer
of
safety
or
Effectiveness,
but
yeah
I
mean
as
long
as
I
know,
that
you're
you're
open
to
different
ideas
other
than
just
the
delineators.
A
The
comment
that
was
made
by
Trent
regarding
the
101
Lynn
road
crossing
over
I'm
gonna
have
to
drive
over
again
just
to
take
a
look
to
see
how
low
that
wall
is
and
the
same
concept
there.
Perhaps
a
fence
dealing
with
Caltrans
to
put
that
in
there
on
both
sides
to
project
a
return
to
protect
a
bicyclist
who
maybe
hit
that
they
don't
go
over
into
the
lanes
of
freeway
below.
A
AA
B
AA
AA
Would
it
be
better
to
have
a
k,
rail
or
the
Jersey
wall,
or
whatever
we're
going
to
call
it
probably.
But
this
is
a
way
we
can
get
at
least
some
of
this
in
place
to
help
people
feel
more
comfortable
on
a
very
fast
but
arterial.
That
is
good
for
the
bikes
to
be
able
to
use,
but
also
Vehicles.
So
with
that
I
think
I
would
be
very
much
in
support
of
this
proposal.
That
I
think
is
going
to
help
not
only
the
bike
Community,
but
the
community
at
large
to
clarify.
AA
AC
Thank
you,
mayor,
I
I
concur
with
councilmember
engler's
comments
about.
This
is
a
starting
point.
It's
not
an
ending
point,
but
let's
look
at
let's
start
with
where
we
are
right
now
and,
let's
be
honest:
Lynn
Road,
Hillcrest
Road.
These
are
Speedways
and
it's
scary
as
a
cyclist
to
be
riding
along,
and
it's
great
that
there's
a
dedicated
bike
lane.
But
it's
exciting
when
a
car
is
going
70
miles.
AC
AC
AC
One
is
the
funding
part
of
this
you've
pulled
in
lots
of
funding,
and
this
is
very
expensive
to
do
and
you've
pulled
in
a
lot
of
different
funding
from
multiple
different
sources
and
not
put
any
extra
burden
on
taxpayers
to
do
this.
That's
an
important
point
to
make
number
two
is
the
larger
point
protected
bike,
Lanes
dedicated
and
protected
bike?
Lanes
are
safer
for
everyone,
not
just
for
cyclists.
AC
If
you
look
at
other
cities
that
have
put
in
dedicated
line
Lanes
with
physical
dividers,
more
permanent
ones,
the
number
of
fatalities
have
decreased,
as
have
the
number
of
accidents
and
that's
better
for
motorists.
It's
better
for
cyclists
so
like
the
only
concerns
I
want
to
raise,
are
I
agree
with
the
comments
that
Jackson
Piper
and
Clint
fultz
made
that
let's,
let's
look
at
what
we're
trying
to
do
here.
AC
If,
if
the
goal
is
to
get
more
people
riding-
and
it
should
be
I'm
concerned,
I
share
their
concerns
that
these
floppy
things
well,
they
may
get
a
motorist
attention,
might
not
stop
them.
I'm
not
sure
rumble
strips
will
either
and
a
cyclist's
experience
on
Santa
Rosa
Road.
Is
that
if
you
look
at
Santa
Rosa
that
the
bike
part
of
that
before
and
after
the
rumble
strips
went
in,
what
happened
is
that
there
was
less
street
sweeping
done
after
the
rumble
strips
went
in.
AC
So
there
was
more
debris,
so
it
became
known
as
goat
head
alley,
because
people
were
getting
flat
tires
all
the
time
because
the
street
was
never
swept
up.
So
you
know
we
need
to
keep
a
lane.
That's
clear:
that's
dedicated,
that's,
safe
and
well.
I.
Don't
think
this
is
a
hundred
percent
of
what
we
could
do
in
that
area.
I
think
it's
a
good
start
and
so
I'll
support
it.
On
that
basis,
thank
you.
A
AE
Ahead,
real
quick
comment.
Thank
you
mayor.
You
know
we
we've
heard
over
the
years
about
concerns
about
speeds
on
mostly
thin
road,
but
also
Hillcrest,
and
it
would
seem
to
me
that,
if
we're
going
to
put
in
these
bike
lanes
and
we're
going
to
squeeze
three
lanes
down
to
two
there's
a
real
potential
to
lower
the
speeds
that
are
on
those
roads,
when
do
you
think
David.
AE
AE
AE
AC
C
AC
AL
A
A
AO
Good
evening,
council
members
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
with
you
tonight.
We've
had
a
very
busy
spring
and
in
late,
March
I
had
the
pleasure
of
accompanying
the
mayor
council,
member
Bob
angler
and
council
member
David
Newman
to
Washington
D.C
for
two
things:
our
annual
meetings
in
Washington
D.C,
specifically
Capitol
Hill,
to
talk
about
some
of
our
local
city
interests
and
after
the
the
meetings
on
Capitol
Hill,
we
usually
overlap
those
meetings
with
our
attendance
at
the
National
League
of
cities.
Each
year
they
host
a
meeting
in
Washington
D.C
called
the
Congressional
cities
conference.
AO
This
is
a
time
where
the
national
league
of
cities
provides
an
update
on
what's
going
on
in
Washington,
D.C
provides
their
platform
for
2023
but
uses
the
time
to
provide
educational
seminars,
breakout
sessions
and
some
fine
keynote
speakers
to
provide
a
good
perspective
for
us
to
bring
home
so
I
at.
This
point
would
like
to
turn
this
over
to
the
mayor
to
provide
some
information
on
what
took
place
and
before
I
proceed.
AO
A
A
We
were
there
for
a
full
week
in
Washington
DC
and
you
cannot
walk
through
Washington
DC
without
running
into
a
government
building
or
a
museum,
a
lot
of
history
there
in
Washington,
but
we've
spent
10
hours
to
sometimes
12
hours
a
day,
doing
work
on
behalf
of
the
city.
We
met
with
congresswoman
Julia
Brownlee,
who
was
gracious
enough
to
take
time
out
of
her
day
to
discuss
issues
concerning
Thousand
Oaks
and
our
ask
to
be
to
improve
our
city.
A
We
also
met
with
the
offices
of
Senator
Feinstein,
as
well
as
Padilla
and
their
staff
to
again
Ask
for
needs
here
in
the
city
and
grants.
Accordingly,
we
also
met
with
the
Environmental
Protection
Agency
Department
of
the
Interior
office
of
wildlife,
Wildland
Fire
Department
of
Housing
and
Urban
Development
National
Endowment
of
the
Arts.
A
The
purpose
of
these
meetings
was
to
seek
support
for
Thousand
Oaks,
for
example,
with
EV
charging
stations
to
place
them
around
the
city
strategically,
so
people
who
live
in
apartment
buildings
that
do
not
have
an
EV
station,
they
have
some
place,
go
to
go
to
charge
up
their
vehicle
here
at
City,
Hall,
the
libraries
and
so
forth.
We're
moving
over
to
more
electric
and
by
providing
more
EV
stations
makes
it
more
convenient
for
our
residents,
also
as
I
go
out
on
Sundays
to
be
at
the
malls
and
ask
people
their
concerns
about
Thousand
Oaks
I'm.
A
Finding
quite
a
few
people
stop
off
in
Thousand
Oaks
to
charge
up
their
EV
cars
on
their
way
for
a
long
trip
coming
from
the
north
to
south
or
from
the
south
to
the
north.
Great
for
Thousand
Oaks,
because
we
have
people
who
have
lunch
do
some
shopping
while
their
cars
are
charging
wonderful,
bring
your
tax
dollars.
Here.
We
appreciate
that
we
also
talked
about
microgrids
for
the
city,
resilience,
Hub
and
family
assistance.
The
challenge
is
that
microgrids.
When
we
have
a
fire
power
outages,
we
have
happened
during
the
summer
with
brown
and
blackouts.
A
We
have
power
that
needs
to
run
this
city,
and
the
microgrids
will
allow
that
entity
to
run
independent
of
our
power
grid
with
the
Southern
California
Edison
also
microgrids,
for
our
city,
water
pumps.
We
have
those
right
now
at
our
Wastewater
Plant,
but
we
need
them
at
our
water
plant.
So
when
we
have
a
brush
fire
and
power
goes
out,
we
can
still
pump
water
and
move
water
around
the
city
to
fight
the
fire
and
also
for
other
services.
A
We
talked
about
storm
water
capture
and
diversion
projects,
especially
on
the
east
side,
where
after
rain
occurs,
we're
able
to
capture
some
of
that
water.
Do
some
preliminary
treatment,
send
it
over
to
less
virgins,
Water
Treatment
Plant,
where
they
will
take
that
water
put
it
through
reverse
osmosis
and
reuse
that
water,
terrific
way
of
water
sustainability?
Here
in
Thousand
Oaks,
we
also
looked
at
Ada
development
of
the
open,
Trail
space.
So
that
way,
those
who
are
handicapped
here
in
our
city
can
fully
enjoy
the
beauty
of
our
Trails.
A
We're
asked
for
money
to
allow
for
a
study
to
see
how
we
can
make
that
more
accessible
to
those
who
may
be
challenged
in
our
trails
and
make
it
more
accessible
for
them.
The
NCL
conference
we
attended
had
some
terrific
speakers.
This
is
where
our
delegation
went
and
met
with
other
members
of
other
cities
throughout
the
country.
They
featured
breakout
sessions
where
we
learned
a
great
deal
and
exchanged
ideas
and
I
can
tell
you
from
listening
to
the
concerns
of
other
cities
throughout
the
country.
A
We
are
light
years
ahead
with
what
we
do
here
in
Thousand
Oaks,
our
city
staff
is
on
top
of
many
things
that
other
cities
around
the
country
are
still
trying
to
figure
out.
So
it
was
a
reassurance
that
we're
doing
a
good
job
here,
thanks
to
City
staff,
thanks
to
our
city
manager
and
our
City
attorney
Mina.
Thank
you
for
your
efforts
there
and,
if
I
may
digress
for
a
moment
here,
this
was
a
challenge
schedule
again
10
hours
a
day,
moving
from
Senators
offices
to
congressman's
office
to
all
the
different
departments.
A
We
have
her
on
board
and
I'm
sure.
My
other
council
members
will
say
the
same
when
they
have
a
moment
here.
I
want
to
compliment
my
other
council
members,
we
kind
of
called
it
a
show
and
we
took
it
on
the
road
and
we
did
a
great
job
bouncing
questions
back
and
forth
and
statements
among
myself
and
my
other
Council
colleagues.
It
was
one
that
it
kept.
A
It
fresh
kept
the
message
on
on
track
and,
if
one
forgot
to
mention
something
the
other
council
member
could
pick
it
up
and
talk
about
it
and
that
I
think
was
very
effective,
so
effective.
That
I
mean
if
I
may
share.
Some
of
these
successes
is
that
okay
feedback
from
congresswoman
Julia
Brownlee
is
that
she
has
selected
two
of
our
city
projects
to
put
in
consideration
for
funding
in
Washington
D.C,
and
this
direct
Correctional
spending
on
microgrids
for
City
water
pumps
and
the
storm
water
capture
and
diversion
project.
A
As
long
as
we
write
a
grant
that
was
up
to
Snuff
and
met
their
standards,
Amina
was
had
to
get
it
done
by
Believe
by
April
22nd.
If
memory
serves
me
correctly,
and
hopefully,
Mina
will
get
some
sleep
after
we
finish
this
up,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
burning
the
night
oil
and
getting
it
done
sort
of
like
studying
for
finals
in
college.
Isn't
it
so
with
that?
What
I
like
to
do
is
ask
my
two
Council
colleagues
for
their
feedback
and
thoughts.
A
I
also
like
to
say
thank
you
to
council
member
David
Newman
who
lived
in
Washington
D.C.
If
anyone
who
has
a
career
when
he
retires
to
be
a
tour
guide
of
Washington
D.C
he's
the
man
he
knew
all
sorts
of
trivia
and
where
to
go
the
best
restaurants.
What's
the
funnest
things
to
do
and
appreciate
his
insights
into
that
wonderful,
historic
City
with
that
I'd
like
to
ask
comments
by
council
member
Bob,
Engler
Bob
any
thoughts
as
to
the
trip.
AA
No
well
covered.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor,
there's
a
good
good
description
of
our
our
our
efforts
over
there
I'm
last.
Sometimes,
why
do
we?
Why
do
we
go
to
Washington
and
I'm
reminded
there's
a
bank
robber
back
in
the
30s
said?
Why
do
you
rob
banks?
I
said
that's
where
the
money
is
we
go
to
Washington
because
there
are
grants
to
be
had
and
we
have
been
able
to
bring
home
quite
a
bit
of
money
over
the
past
few
years
to
help
fund
some
of
the
things
we've
been
talking
about
tonight.
AA
AA
We
want
to
make
sure
that
they
know
that
we
appreciate
their
work.
I
was
also
at
a
another
Susan
Susan,
brick
from
the
from
ATF,
the
Alcohol
Tobacco
and
Firearms
Bureau.
Was
there
talking
about
the
types
of
things
that
they
do
to
help
police
departments
track
down
weapons
and
track
down?
They
can
track
down
weapons
based
on
the
ammunition
used.
They
have
quite
a
few
ways
of
doing
it,
but
one
thing
she
said
really
piqued
my
interest.
AA
AA
AC
Newman,
thank
you,
mayor.
I,
concur
with
your
comments.
I
I
know
it
can
seem
like
Washington
is
a
long
way
away,
and
why
are
we
going
on
these
junkets
and
just
to
tie
what
we
did
there
directly
to
benefits
here?
You
mentioned
microgrids
at
Water
pumping
stations.
There.
There
were
cases
during
recent
wildfires
where
firefighters
couldn't
pump
water
because
the
power
was
out
when
the
power's
out
the
water
pumps
don't
work.
Ventura
had
a
terrible
problem
in
the
Thomas
fire.
B
B
AC
Because
the
power
was
out
and
they
couldn't
pump
water
so
by
putting
microgrids
on
our
water
pumps.
Here
we
are
making
people's
lives
safer
and
better,
and
we
we
went
to
Washington
to
get
the
funding
to
do
that
and
then,
while
we
were
there,
we
also
learned
that
the
Departments
of
energy
and
transportation
are
teaming
up
for,
to
put
together
an
additional
pool
of
funding
for
Ev,
Chargers
and
I
understand
from
Ms
labor
that
we
will
be
applying
for
some
of
some
of
that
funding
for
even
more
Charters
that
that
we'll
be
adding
here.
AC
Mina
in
Washington-
and
there
are
all
sorts
of
different
legislature-
legislators,
staff,
National,
League
of
cities,
people
Cal
cities,
people
and
having
these
connections
and
doing
this
networking
is
a
vital
part
of
good
governance
and
for
all
the
good
work
that
you
did.
We're
very
grateful
for
you.
So
thank
you
for
that.
U
Thanks
so
much
mayor,
McNamee
we'll
be
back
here
on
the
9th
of
May
two
weeks
from
tonight.
At
that
time
we
currently
have
two
kind
of
larger
items
that
evening
the
first
hearing
relating
to
District
elections,
public
hearing,
will
take
place
that
evening,
along
with
the
study
session
on
our
operating
budget,
having
tackled
the
user
fees
tonight,
we'll
move
on
to
our
study
session
on
our
operating
budget
in
preparation
for
its
consideration
in.