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From YouTube: Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - May 9, 2023
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Thousand Oaks City Council Meeting - 5/9/23
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With
liberty
and
justice
for
all,
thank
you.
Any
requests
for
continuances
by
my
council
members,
public
hearing
agenda
items
we're
good.
We
have
some
special
presentations
today.
First
up
recording
in
progress,
the
recording
is
in
progress.
Thank
you
appreciate
that
we
have
a
special
presentation
night
from
Jen
Harkey
Jen.
Please
come
on
down
program
management.
Analysts
with
the
County
of
Ventura
Jen
will
provide
presentation
on
Ventura
County
Continuum
of
Care
2022
point
in
time.
Count
welcome
Jen,
please.
G
G
First
off
I
want
to
thank
Council
for
having
me
here
and
to
present
on
the
state
of
homelessness.
I
would
also
like
to
thank
your
Council
for
stepping
up.
Ultimately,
you
and
Thousand
Oaks
have
done
quite
a
bit
over
this
past
year
or
two
in
regards
to
addressing
the
housing
crisis
and
allocating
resources
for
Supportive
Housing,
a
new
navigation,
Center
and
working
to
expand
services
in
your
city.
So
thank
you.
G
So
just
a
quick
overview.
I
know.
Many
of
you
are
familiar
with
this
with
the
point
in
time
count.
So
who
do
we
count
in
that
snapshot?
On
the
night
of
January
23rd?
We
include
people
who
were
in
Emergency,
Shelters,
motels
paid
for
by
programs
and
transitional
housing
and
then
on
the
day
of
January
24th.
We
go
out
and
do
a
unsheltered
count
and
Survey
of
anyone
who
is
living
on
the
streets
in
vehicles
and
other
areas
that
are
not
meant
for
habitation.
G
This
gives
you
an
idea
of
all
of
the
surveys
that
were
collected
on
the
day
of
our
unsheltered
count
across
the
county.
This
takes
quite
an
effort,
and
so
I
do
want
to
call
attention
to
nearly
400
volunteers
who
help
with
the
surveys
on
the
day
of
the
count
and
I
know
some
of
you
and
your
staff,
as
well
as
City
staff
and
many
organizations,
as
well
as
people
from
the
community,
help
us
every
year
to
make
sure
that
we
are
out
completing
surveys.
G
The
number
and
percentage
of
those
who
are
surveyed
versus
who
are
observed.
We've
had
quite
a
shift
since
pre-covered
pre-pandemic
till
now,
and
so
our
goal
in
2024
is
to
really
collect
as
many
in-person
surveys
as
possible.
That
really
helps
us
with
collecting
subpopulation
data.
Getting
to
know
who
are
our
veterans,
who
are
the
youth
and
what
kind
of
health
conditions
or
other
issues
are
people
dealing
with
in
the
unsheltered
population.
G
G
This
gives
you
an
idea
between
shelter,
counts
and
unsheltered
counts
and
I
do
want
to
call
attention
to
the
county-wide
number,
which
includes
the
project
room
key.
In
the
prior
year
we
had
included
project
room
key
numbers
by
City
And.
We
have
several
people
who
are
served
county-wide
in
those
particular
Motel
voucher
programs,
and
this
year
they
were
included
in
the
county-wide
total.
Now
we
know
that
in
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
we
have
a
large
number
of
people
who
are
sheltered
in
the
Premier
Inn,
specifically
through
the
project
room,
key
motel
vouchers.
G
This
this
is
the
demographics
of
age
groups
and
we
are
continuing
to
see
an
increase
in
the
number
of
Aging
adults
and
Senior
populations,
and
this
is
our
unsheltered.
G
We
also
have
a
pretty
close
to
where
we
were
in
2022.
As
far
as
demographics,
we
have
a
new
category
here
that
was
implemented
by
Hud
with
multiple
races,
so
five
percent
counted
there
in
our
unsheltered
this
year
and
then
I
haven't
bowled
some
areas
of
concern,
but
also
areas
that
we
as
the
Continuum
of
Care,
really
want
to
focus
efforts
in
on
addressing
with
our
new
resources,
more
grant
funding,
making
sure
that
we're
addressing
some
of
these
sub-populations.
G
So
some
of
that
includes
chronically
homeless
adults,
chronically
homeless
adults
have
both
a
year
or
longer
of
being
homeless,
the
length
of
time
and
then
also
a
disability
of
some
sort,
so
that
disability
could
be
physical,
mental,
developmental
or
substances
and
chronically
homeless.
Individuals
can
qualify
for
Supportive
Housing
and
so
as
we're
looking
at
more
developments,
Motel
conversions
just
calling
attention
to
your
home
key
site
that
will
help
us
convert
77
new
units
of
permanent
Supportive
Housing
here
in
Thousand
Oaks,
also
health
conditions.
G
Looking
at
treatment
facility
looking
at
other
options,
and
especially
when
we
are
doing
Street
Outreach
so
that
we
have
resources
to
offer,
we
also
had
an
increase
in
the
number
of
homeless
veterans.
So
this
really
speaks
to
leaning
on
our
veteran
specific
resources.
Our
Veterans
Services
office,
Supportive
Services
for
veteran
families
and
Gold
Coast
veterans,
Foundation.
G
In
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks
count,
I
do
want
to
make
sure
you
all
are
all
aware.
We
have
a
full
count
report
that
is
posted
on
the
COC
website,
the
Continuum
of
Care
website.
So
it's
venturascoc.org,
and
if
you
were
to
go
to
news
and
announcements,
you
can
see
the
full
report
there
and
there
are
several
sub-population
data
points,
as
well
as
the
data
points
by
jurisdiction.
G
25
are
also
first
time
homeless.
In
the
last
12
months,
we've
had
an
increase
County
Wide
in
the
number
who
are
first-time
homeless,
and
this
also
illuminates
the
need
for
more
homeless
prevention,
funding,
rental
assistance,
working
on
ways
to
keep
keep
people
housed
and
also
eviction
prevention,
44
substance
use,
17
mental
health
and
then
eight
percent
or
fleeing
domestic
violence.
G
Just
a
reminder
for
all
of
you
that
when
we
do
go
out
and
do
the
count,
we
make
sure
that
our
volunteers
have
resources
to
offer.
When
someone
is
in
a
crisis
situation
or
needs
a
referral
to
Services,
we
make
sure
that
they
have
something
to
refer
people
to
on
the
day
of
the
count.
G
And
then,
when
we
look
at
at-risk
populations,
we
look
at
our
health
care
System.
Our
County
Office
of
Education
and
you'll
see
the
number
here.
12
000
people
served
through
the
county
office
through
the
health
care
agency,
and
this
includes
a
broader
definition
of
homelessness.
So
it
includes
those
who
are
at
risk
right,
so
those
who
may
be
facing
an
eviction
or
a
living
doubled
up.
G
Multiple
households,
Under
One
Roof,
the
Ventura
County
Office
of
Education
over
7
000
students
were
identified
as
homeless,
and
that
includes
that
mckinney-bento
definition
of
students
who
may
be
at
risk
or
in
a
housing
unstable
situation
within
the
Conejo
Valley
I
did
pull
that
number.
248
students
experiencing
housing
instability
in
our
Conejo
Valley
District
over
this
past
year,
but
I
would
say
thank
you
to
the
Ventura
County
Office
of
Education
and
the
mckinney-vento
Liaisons,
because
they
offer
ongoing
support,
Transportation
referrals
to
shelter
and
other
resources.
G
G
G
The
length
of
time
people
are
experiencing
homelessness
seems
to
be
seems
to
be
an
issue
where
we
have
people
in
shelters
for
a
longer
period
of
time,
mostly
because
we
don't
have
the
rental
units
or
the
availability
to
use
those
vouchers.
G
G
So
the
number
of
people
first
time
homeless
I
spoke
to
this
before
we
are
continuing
to
see
people
coming
into
the
system
or
unsheltered
who
are
continuing
to
need
that
assistance
through
rentals
or
security
deposits.
We
also
make
referrals
to
the
housing
rights
Center
when
someone's
facing
an
eviction
to
help
keep
people
housed
and
then
working
with
our
Workforce
Development
partners
and
also
Employment
Services,
to
link
people
to
jobs
on
the
job
training.
G
So,
overall,
through
the
Continuum
of
Care,
we
continue
to
have
more
resources
coming
in
through
Rapid
rehousing,
and
most
of
that
is
through
the
state
funding
through
What's
called
the
homeless,
housing
assistance
and
prevention
program
hap,
and
that
hap
funding
from
the
state
is
really
expanding.
Our
ability
to
have
interim
shelters,
Motel,
vouchering,
rapid
rehousing
dollars
and
you'll
see
this
under
development.
Most
of
those
Supportive
Housing
under
development
here
speaks
to
our
home
key
projects
and
then
also
some
of
the
additional
funding.
That's
coming
through
housing
vouchers,
the
number
25
there
that's
available.
G
The
new
transitional
housing
projects
we
have
two
and
that
would
be
Mesa
in
Ojai
and
also
Casa
Pacifica,
and
those
two
programs
will
serve
transitional
age.
Youth
18
to
24
and
those
programs
are
intended
to
be
completed
by
the
end
of
this
year.
So
it
will
open
up
some
additional
transitional
housing
for
youth
and
then
the
new
development
under
emergency
shelter
that
would
be
for
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks,
adding
the
new
dignity
moves,
project
which
we
are
all
thrilled
to
be
a
partner
in
this
work
with
you
on
the
housing
pipeline.
G
I
won't
go
into
all
the
details
on
these,
but
just
wanted
you
to
have
the
list
of
all
of
the
projects
that
are
coming
online.
Over
this
next
year-
and
these
are
permanent
Supportive
Housing
projects,
specifically
so
not
affordable,
housing
or
not
the
extremely
affordable.
Those
are
also
listed
on
our
community
development
site
through
the
county.
G
And
then
our
COC
board
recommendations
so,
like
I
mentioned
earlier,
our
COC
board
brought
these
also
to
the
Board
of
Supervisors,
which
endorsed
these
recommendations.
Although
I
would
say
to
your
Council
that
we
are
continuing
to
work
with
lasar
development
consultants
and
they
are
the
group
that
we
contracted
with
to
do
a
quantitative
and
qualitative
analysis
and
strategic
planning
on
addressing
homelessness,
and
so
your
Council
also
approved
funding
to
help
support
that
effort.
So
thank
you
for
supporting
the
strategic
planning
as
we're
moving
forward
and
addressing
some
of
these
issues.
G
So
I'll
just
go
through
these
fairly
quickly,
the
first
being
that
we
want
to
end
veteran
homelessness.
Here
we
have
many
resources
through
Supportive
Services
for
veteran
families
and
the
Vash
vouchers
from
the
VA
that
we
are
trying
our
best
to
utilize,
so
that
people
and
our
veterans
can
get
placed
the
efforts
to
end
homelessness
among
unsheltered
youth,
with
those
new
transitional
housing
projects
coming
online
and
also
our
partners
with
interface,
Children
and
Family
Services.
G
We
have
more
resources
to
be
able
to
actually
accomplish
this
in
the
next
year,
reducing
the
number
of
chronically
homeless
individuals
across
the
county.
So
all
of
those
home
key
projects
and
those
new
Supportive
Housing
projects
will
really
help
us
with
this
effort,
encouraging
each
jurisdiction
to
look
at
their
data
and
really
look
at
Best
Practices
and
come
alongside
of
the
county,
which
you
have
all
done.
So
really
applaud
the
work
here
in
the
city.
G
Foreign
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I'm
very
appreciative
of
the
lasar,
the
lasar
contracts,
because
ultimately,
at
some
point
we'll
be
bringing
that
back
to
you
and
we'll
have
a
draft
coming
back
to
you
most
likely
by
the
end
of
June,
if
not
July,
for
your
review
and
consideration
so
I'll
take
any
questions.
Council.
B
I
would
now
like
to
welcome
Justin
link
the
American
public
works,
Association
Venture
chapters
present
elect
along
with
our
Public
Works
director
Cliff
Finley
and
Deputy
Public
Works,
director
Nader
I,
don't
want
to
read
hadari.
Thank
you
to
present
the
apwa
project
of
the
Year
Awards
for
recently
completed
City
projects
welcome
Justin.
Thank
you,
Justin
link
for
the
good
work
that
you
do
we're
very
proud
of
the
hard
work
that
our
Public
Works
team
continues
to
accomplish.
To
make
the
city
a
better
place
to
live.
B
We
really
appreciate
the
recognition.
Public
Works
will
be
hosting
their
annual
open
house
at
the
city's
Municipal
service
center
and
Newbury
Park
on
May
23rd
May
24
to
celebrate
National
Public
Works
week.
I
encourage
all
residents
to,
and
businesses
in
town
to
attend
and
learn
more
about
the
great
work
this
team
does.
Keeping
this
well
maintained.
City
I
also
have
a
proclamation
here
for
you.
Mr
Finley
come
on
up
Mr
Finley.
H
Good
evening,
mayor
McNamee
members
of
council
again,
my
name
is
Justin
Lang
City
traffic
engineer
for
the
city
of
Simi
Valley
planning,
commissioner
for
the
city
of
Thousand
Oaks.
As
many
of
you
all
know,
and
president-elect
for
the
Ventura
County
chapter
of
the
American
public
works.
Association
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
apwa
Ventura
County
chapter
this
evening.
H
H
Each
year
the
chapter
solicits
nominations
for
completed
or
substantially
complete
Public
Works
projects
of
various
disciplines
that
epitomize
the
efforts
and
Ingenuity
of
Public
Works
professionals.
I
am
pleased
to
announce
the
city
of
Thousand.
Oaks
has
received
not
one,
not
two
but
three
project
of
the
Year
awards
for
the
2022
project
year
in
the
emergency
repair,
environmental
and
transportation
categories.
H
The
first
award
for
emergency
repair
is
The
Meadows,
Reservoir
project,
this
2.4
million
dollar
emergency
repair
project
featured
Fast,
Track
design
and
construction
phasing
starting
in
February
2022
and
was
completed
in
less
than
11
months
with
minimal
impact
to
adjacent
residents.
The
second
award
for
environmental
is
the
logarith
on
a
pump
station
project.
The
six
million
dollar
project
included
the
installation
of
two
750
gallon
per
minute
pumps,
a
4
000
gallon
per
minute;
fire
pump,
a
state-of-the-art
standby
emergency
generator
and
a
new
2800
foot
water
line,
boosting
fire
fighting
flow
capacity
for
the
immediate
neighborhood.
H
The
project
was
completed
under
budget
and
without
any
water
service
Interruption
and
helped
save
the
city
over
2
million
in
new
Reservoir
costs.
The
final
award
for
transportation
is
the
kanejo
School
Road
Willow
Lane
project.
This
six
and
a
half
million
dollar
project
provides
one
and
a
half
miles
of
new
sidewalk
and
Class
2
and
class
3
bicycle
Lanes
along
Willow
Lane
and
kanejo
School
Road
from
Hampshire
Road
to
Hillcrest
Drive
as
part
of
the
city's
ongoing
program
to
construct
new
sidewalks
and
bike
Lanes
throughout
the
community.
H
These
projects
would
not
have
been
successful
without
the
leadership
of
this
Council
and
the
city
manager
for
the
expert
engineering
and
construction
management
by
the
city's
public
works
department
led
by
Cliff
Findlay,
Nader,
hedare
and
Shamir
shamiri,
and
their
hard-working
of
course,
of
course,
they're
hard
working
project
managers.
It
is
my
honor
to
congratulate
the
city
on
receiving
these
Awards.
I
Just
just
quickly,
we
obviously
the
public
works
department
couldn't
do
what
we
do
without
the
support
of
the
council
and
the
leadership
of
the
council.
So
thank
you
very
much
on
behalf
of
all
of
Public
Works
and
if
you
have
a
few
minutes,
the
23rd
and
24th.
Please
come
out
to
public
our
Public
Works
event
out
at
the
MSC
yeah.
You
can
get
more
information
on
that
at
www.tokes.org.
B
I
Yeah,
so
actually,
for
those
not
familiar,
we,
we
have
a
an
open
house
where
we
have
invited
the
community
to
come,
join
us
for
a
tour.
It's
a
reduced
tour
of
kind
of
all
the
different
departments
that
we
work
on,
and
here
in
public
works
as
it
stands
today
we
have
over
600
children
coming
to
take
that
tour
from
from
the
schools
throughout
the
district
in
the
valley.
It's
a
great
event.
I
We
have
a
bus
ride,
they
go
through
the
the
bus
wash
they
visit,
the
the
water,
the
water
section,
the
sign
yard,
the
storm
water
exhibit
I,
think
there's
even
an
area
where
they
learn
about
ladybugs
and
how
they
are
a
natural
natural
helper
in
the
garden.
So,
anyway,
it's
a
great
event.
I
We
we
invite
anybody,
still
who'd
like
to
come.
There's
still
time
just
go
to
our
website,
there's
a
number
and
a
sign
up
and
we'd
love
to
have
you.
Thank
you.
Well,.
B
If
I
have
to
say,
I
was
at
a
function
last
week
and
a
teacher
from
Calabasas
High
announced
very
proudly
that
she
had
40
of
her
students
who
will
be
attending
that
event
and
they're
very
excited
about
it.
With
that
again,
we're
very
proud
of
the
work
that
all
of
you
do.
Thank
you
so
much
and
if
you
would
join
us
out
in
front
for
a
photograph
with
our
council
members,
all.
B
B
B
C
This
is
the
time
and
place
for
public
comments.
Speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
and
community
of
residence
for
the
record.
Three
individuals
have
requested
to
speak
and
pursue
it
to
council
standards.
Speakers
are
allowed
three
minutes.
The
yellow
light
displays
when
you
have
one
minute
remaining.
B
E
B
B
K
Right
there
you
are,
my
name
is
Bob
Ayers
I
live
here
in
Thousand,
Oaks
I've
spoken
several
times
at
these
meetings
and
it's
frustrating
to
say
it
is
always
about
the
same
problem,
the
house
directly
across
the
street
from
us.
It
is
owned
by
drug
addicts
who
continually
break
the
law
and
have
been
arrested
numerous
times
on
drug
charges,
including
fentanyl,
with
intent
to
sell
theft,
mail
fraud,
Etc
they
have
had
their
cars
taken
away,
their
dog
and
their
cats
removed,
and
even
their
daughter
who
is
now
in
the
system.
K
Police
are
called
to
this
house
regularly
and
has
made
my
street
an
unsafe,
unhealthy
and
unhappy
place
to
live
our
peace
of
mind
and
quality
of
life
are
gone
right
now
one
of
the
owners
is
in
jail.
The
other
is
out
on
probation,
but
here's
the
problem
the
house
was
condemned
by
the
city
several
months
ago.
The
side
and
backyards
are
filled
completely
filled
with
trash
and
debris.
It
is
a
Haven
for
vagrants
criminals,
rats,
mosquitoes
from
the
standing
water
left
from
the
rains.
K
My
wife
and
I
moved
to
Thousand
Oaks
to
be
near
our
grandchildren,
but
we've
spent
some
time
more
time
and
energy
dealing
with
these
people
than
we've
had
with
our
family.
Their
problems
have
become
our
problems,
Commander
Paris
and
the
police.
They
have
been
great,
but
he
and
the
police
force
can
only
do
so
much.
We've
complained
to
every
Department
in
the
city
we
can
think
of
and
also
to
the
D.A.
In
nearly
every
conversation
we
are
reminded
of
these
people's
rights.
I'm
asking
you
what
about
my
rights,
my
neighbor's
rights,
my
wife's
rights?
K
What
about
the
rights
of
all
the
other
neighbors,
who
have
to
put
up
with
these
criminals
and
now
they're
condemned
home
friends,
have
asked
us?
Why
don't
you
move?
Well,
we
wanted
to
Realtors
have
told
us
that
when
the
buyers
see
The
Condemned
sign
and
all
the
problems
we
would
have
to
disclose,
it
would
severely
impact
the
price
of
our
home.
K
So
my
wife
and
I
are
basically
stuck
in
this
mess
and
truly
believe
if
this
was
one
of
your
families
home
with
this
home
across
the
street,
you'd
figure
out
what
to
do
about
it.
One
of
the
times
I
spoke
at
the
meeting.
I
was
told
by
one
of
you.
Well,
these
people
have
constitutional
property
rights,
but
again
how
about
our
constitutional
rights
and
the
rights
of
our
neighbors?
What
about
our
quality
of
life,
our
peace
of
mind
and
our
health?
K
Our
street
is
not
safe
and
it's
your
job
to
fix
it,
and
if
you
can't
fix
it,
you
ought
to
get
another
job.
You
know
we've
called
the
mortgage
company.
We
have
filed
numerous
complaints
with
the
mortgage
company.
What
you
guys
need
to
do
is
come
down
here.
Drive
down
here,
get
out
of
your
cars.
Look
at
this
house,
walk
around
the
house
and
tell
us
you're
not
going
to
do
something
about
it.
You
can
do
something
about
it
and
we
all
wish
you
would-
or
this
could
be
your
street
next
year
anyway.
B
Thank
you
for
your
thoughts,
Mr
Ayers.
Next
up,
we
have
in
person
Todd
Smith
Todd
of
your
in-house,
come
on
down
to
the
podium
and
after
Todd
we
have
Karen,
Wilburn
Karen,
come
on
down
and
have
a
seat
behind
and
we'll
call
you
up
as
soon
as
he's
concluded.
Todd.
You
have
three
minutes.
Please
proceed.
Thank.
L
You
I
wish
I
could
have
submitted
my
traffic,
my
little
down
and
dirty
traffic
study
to
Mr
Link
before
I
arrived,
but
that
would
have
been
really
helpful.
But
so
I
just
want
to
go
through
the
basic
the
valuation.
Some
principles
on
the
valuation
of
the
property
on
the
this
borchard
property
issue,
and
so.
C
L
Can
I
is
this
something
I
can
put
up
at
all
tootv?
What's
that.
L
B
B
L
So
let
me
get
this
other
copy
here,
so
there
are.
Basically,
there
are
three.
B
L
I,
don't
like
actually
I
can
actually
bring
this
over
here
a
little
bit,
so
here's
the
property.
This
is
the
property
that
we're
talking
about
here.
That's
at
question
here.
This
is
the
Fox
Meadows
property.
This
is
the
casa,
the
casa
Canal
property,
and
this
is
the
Camino
part
of
the
property.
L
L
L
If,
if
it's
a,
if
it's
a
five
percent
correction
in
those
houses
because
of
the
potential
lack
of
planning
and
and
putting
something
in
this
landlocked
piece
of
property,
if
it
results
in
a
five
percent
reduction
that
that
that's
a
total
of
41
million
dollars
divided
by
the
476
homes
that
that's
comprised
here,
that's
138
in
the
Fox
Meadows
143,
Casa,
195,
Camino,
that's
43,
43,
000
per
home,
potentially,
and
that
goes
into
effect
as
soon
as
well.
L
Carol
Karen
will
talk
about
when
that,
when
that
kind
of
thing
takes
place
as
far
as
disclosure
and
real
estate
sales
transactions.
So
so
that's
a
that's
a
significant
thing.
Just
to
let
you
know
the
property
was
purchased
in
1979.,
the
Fox
Meadows
one
is
the
latest
one
it
was
they
were
they
were.
They
were
built
in
79
through
86.,
so
the
purchase
the
property
was
purchased.
The
same
time
those
houses
were
being
bought,
we
were
being
were
being
built.
L
B
B
N
Good
evening,
I'm
Karen
Wilburn
from
Newbury,
Park
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
unintended
consequences
of
changing
land
use
on
the
borchard
parcel
when
there
is
not
a
clear
plan
to
which
the
owner
will
be
bound.
Both
council
members
and
the
owner
have
acknowledged
that
if
the
land
use
has
changed,
it
may
be
years
before
building
starts
in
2021
one
council
member
said
the
owner
should
have
the
opportunity
to
explore
his
options
before
presenting
a
plan
to
the
city.
N
This
could
have
serious
unintended
consequences
in
the
values
of
homes
in
the
immediate
area
which
could
last
for
years.
Until
now,
this
vacant
parcel
hasn't
been
an
issue
when
asked
Realtors
have
been
able
to
explain
its
zone
for
single,
like
kind
single-family
homes.
With
this
change,
Realtors
and
sellers
will
now
be
required
to
disclose
the
new
land
use
or
expose
themselves
to
possible
lawsuits
from
from
buyers.
N
When
asked
what
might
be
built
there
and
when
the
buyers
will
be
told
it's
unknown,
but
it
could
be
anything
from
Apartments
to
hotels
to
breweries
and
could
include
four-story
buildings.
Buyers
will
have
to
ask
themselves.
Do
they
want
to
buy
a
home
in
an
area
with
this
uncertainty
of
what
their
neighborhood
might
look
like
in
five
or
ten
years,
or
what
the
traffic
impact
will
be
until
a
brand?
A
plan
is
brought
forth
and
approved.
These
questions
will
remain
unanswered.
N
I
have
spoken
with
several
real
estate
professionals
who
handle
this
area,
and
they
agree.
This
uncertainty
could
have
a
detrimental
effect
on
the
ability
to
sell
or
the
price
of
homes
in
this
area.
Three
of
these
professionals
have
consented
to
including
their
names
in
support
of
what
I'm
saying
this
evening.
N
You've
just
heard
another
Resident
monetize
the
combined
value
of
the
homes
that
could
be
affected.
If
this
results
in
even
a
five
percent
reduction
in
value,
then
you're
asking
the
homeowners
of
this
area
to
subsidize
the
property
owners
to
the
tune
of
20
million
dollars,
so
that
he
can
have
the
opportunity
to
explore
his
options.
This
is
more
than
forty
thousand
dollars
per
homeowner.
We
know
that
because
of
Sacramento's
overreach,
once
the
changes
made,
the
city
will
have
less
control
to
approve
or
deny
a
project.
N
If
you
disagree,
I
implore
that
you
ask
City
staff
how
this
could
affect
your
control,
so
I
summarize
these
are
the
unintended
consequences
of
making
this
change
without
a
plan
in
place
that
the
owner
will
be
required
to
adhere
to.
Please
please
do
not
Place
476
homeowners
in
the
position
of
subsidizing.
This
change,
we
aren't
millionaires.
These
are
our
homes
that
we've
worked
hard
for
and
they
are
our
largest
asset
I.
Thank
you
very.
Very
much
and
I
have
a
handout
for
the
clerk,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
Thank.
B
B
B
Have
motion
to
move
the
consent
calendar
any
other
questions
before
I
call
for
the
vote.
Madam
Clerk.
D
B
C
Hearing
advertises
required
by
law
is
open
to
consider
agenda
item
11a
transition
to
District
elections,
map
criteria,
hearing
number
one
speakers
are
requested
to
State
their
name
for
the
record.
One
individual
has
presented
a
speaker
card
and
pursuant
to
council
standards,
each
speaker
will
have
five
minutes.
B
O
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council.
My
name
is
David
Womack
with
your
city.
Attorney's
office
with
me
is
Douglas
Johnson
from
National
demographics
and,
as
this
is
our
first
public
hearing
on
the
transitioning
towards
districts
and
I.
Think
at
this
point
in
time,
I'm
just
going
to
hand
this
over
to
Mr
Johnson
he'll
run
through.
Basically
what
we're
doing
what
the
process
is
and
lay
this
out
for
the
public
and
hopefully
encourage
more
public
participation.
M
Thank
you
very
much
and
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
with
you
again.
What
we're
talking
about
tonight
is
a
change
in
how
the
council
is
elected,
so
when
we
talk
about
by
districts
at
large,
I
can
get
lost
sometimes.
But
currently
the
council
is
at
large
where,
if
there
are
two
seats
open,
two
people
run
three
seats,
open
three
people
run
and
voters
get
to
vote
for
whoever
they
want.
City-Wide.
M
M
The
law
takes
the
federal
law
which
has
been
around
since
1965
and
which
we're
very
familiar
with,
and
it
makes
it
easier
for
plaintiffs
to
file
challenges
to
cities.
So
under
federal
law
you
have
to
fail
these
four
different
tests
listed
and
you
have
to
be
all
four
of
them
before
plaintiff
can
force
you
into
District
elections
under
the
California
law.
M
Two
of
those
tests
go
out
and
all
the
plaintiff
has
to
proves
that
there's
a
statistical
relationship
between
how
what
the
law
calls
a
protected
class,
meaning
Latinos,
African-Americans,
Asian,
Americans
or
Native
Americans,
how
one
of
those
groups
of
voters
vote
and
how
the
other
voters
vote.
If
there's
a
difference
and
the
protected
class
voters
have
a
pattern
of
not
being
elected
or
not
electing
their
preferred
candidates,
then
you're
in
violation
of
law,
even
if
the
Voting
is
not
racially
driven,
regardless
of
the
size
of
protected
class.
M
That's
how
easy
it
is
for
California
plaintiffs
to
make
a
challenge.
So
they've
taken
the
federal
law,
the
four
tests
and
reduced
it
down
to
just
two
tests
that
you
fail
and
then
you're
forced
to
change.
M
So
this
law
is
triggering
what
we've
called
a
quiet
tsunami,
sweeping
local
governments
across
the
state.
At
our
last
count,
we
were
about
275
school
districts
of
switch
36
Community,
College
districts,
185
cities
have
switched
to
buy
District
elections
now
and
just
to
put
that
in
context
before
this
law
passed,
there
were
only
29
by
District
cities
in
California.
M
The
this
huge
wave
is
happening
because
of
the
cost
involved
in
these
lawsuits.
You
can
see,
on
the
right
hand,
side
a
sampling
of
settlements
that
have
been
reached
when
lawsuits
were
brought
where
jurisdictions
didn't
make.
This
initial
jump
before
lawsuit
was
filed
and
they
quickly
get
into
the
millions
of
dollars
and
so
far
nobody
who's
tried
to
fight
one
of
these
cases.
M
No
jurisdiction
has
tried
to
fight
one
of
these
cases
as
one
and
that's
part
of
our
challenge
is
we
don't
know
how
high
that
bar
is
because
the
law
is
not
very
specific
and
each
time
some
jurisdiction
tries
to
fight
it.
They
end
up
spending
millions
of
dollars
on
their
defense,
Millions
more
to
the
plaintiffs,
who
won
the
case
and
and
everyone
has
lost.
M
So
that's
just
a
little
background
on
why
this
is
happening
not
just
here
in
Thousand
Oaks,
but
across
the
state.
We
did
a
little
look
in
Ventura
and
Santa
Barbara
County,
and
before
this
law
passed,
there
were
no
white
District
cities
in
either
County
and
with
Thousand
Oaks
making
the
change
there
will
only
be
Port
Hueneme
and
Fillmore
will
be
the
only
two.
Not
by
District,
so
you
can
see
just
locally
how
big
this
the
change
has
been
as
this
laws
impact
swept
through.
M
So
there
is
state
law
in
the
process
for
making
this
change
to
avoid
a
lawsuit
and
change
how
the
council
is
elected.
So
tonight
is
the
first
of
two
initial
hearings:
we
don't
have
draft
Maps.
These
are
informational,
educational
and
aimed
at
getting
any
initial
resonant
input
that
they
wish
to
give
prior
to
drawing
draft
Maps
so
it'll
be
tonight
and
next
week
then
we'll
draft
some
maps,
your
residence,
hopefully
we'll,
engage
in
this
process.
M
M
There
are
some
rules
for
how
the
maps
get
drawn.
First
of
all,
we
have
federal
laws,
so
they
have
to
be
equal
in
population
and
it
is
total
population.
Counted
roughly,
is
counted
by
the
census.
So
it's
not
an
equal
number
of
registered
voters
or
equal
numbers,
adult
citizens.
It's
total
human
beings,
counted
by
the
census,
there's
a
couple
of
percentage
plus
or
minus
play
in
there,
but
it's
very
limited
and
that's
a
very
tight
restriction.
M
Then
we
have
the
federal
Voting
Rights
Act,
which
ensures
that
when
lines
are
drawn
they're
not
drawn
to
dilute
the
voting
strength
of
one
of
those
protected
classes,
I
mentioned,
so
you
can't
divide
up
a
neighborhood,
that's
heavily
populated
with
one
of
those
groups,
because
that
would
dilute
their
voting
strength
but
at
the
same
time
no
racial
gerrymandering.
So
when
we're
drawing
the
maps,
race
can
be
one
consideration,
especially
when
we're
looking
at
complying
with
federal
law,
but
it
cannot
be
what
the
court
is
called
the
predominant
consideration.
M
M
The
the
pieces
of
each
district
have
to
touch
the
other
pieces
of
that
District
No,
jumping
from
one
part
of
the
city
to
the
other,
to
the
degree
possible.
We
want
to
have
undivided
neighborhoods
and
communities
of
Interest.
This
does
get
challenging
with
that
equal
population
requirement,
because
the
numbers
rarely
work
out
perfectly,
but
as
much
as
possible.
We
want
to
identify
neighborhoods
and
identify
other
communities
of
interest
and
keep
each
one
of
those
intact.
M
The
state
also
has
a
Prohibition,
which
is
that
the
district
shall
not
be
drawn
to
favor
or
discriminate
against
the
political
party.
So
in
this
process
we're
not
looking
at
any
partisan
data
or
anything
like
that
because
of
that
prohibition-
and
these
are,
of
course,
nonpartisan
offices.
So
those
are
the
two
sets
of
statutory
requirements.
M
The
final
column
on
the
right
is
what
are
called
other
traditional
districting
principles.
These
are
things
that
the
courts
have
looked
at
and
said.
Yes,
that
is
something
that's
an
acceptable
consideration
in
the
process.
It's
not
a
requirement,
but
it's
something
you
can
consider
when
drawing
lines
once
you've
met
all
the
other
criteria,
and
so
the
first
of
the
two
is
respecting
the
voters
choices
or
what
the
courts
sometimes
called
continuity
in
office.
M
This
boils
down
to
you,
can
look
and
once
you've
met
the
other
criteria,
you
can
then
try
to
avoid
pairing
current
council
members
and
the
the
courts.
Thinking
that
is,
the
voters
have
elected
the
current
council
members,
so
the
degree
possible.
It's
leave
the
re-election
decisions
up
to
the
voters
as
well.
If
two
council
members
get
drawn
on
the
same
seat,
then
it
doesn't
matter
if
the
voters
think
they
both
have
earned
re-election.
One
of
them
is
not
going
to
be
re-elected.
M
So
that's
something
courts
have
said
is
an
allowable
consideration.
It's
not
a
required
consideration.
Similarly,
future
population
growth-
if
you
know
an
area,
is
going
to
grow
faster
than
another,
you
can
slightly
under
populate
it
again.
We
have
to
stay
within
that
window
of
a
couple
of
percent,
but
you
can
slightly
under
populate
it
and
justify
it
as
based
on.
We
know
that
area
is
going
to
grow
faster
than
other
areas.
M
So
all
the
maps
that'll
come
in
will
hopefully
all
address
these
concerns.
If
they
don't,
if
they
are
not
population
balanced
or
if
they
raise
a
statutory
concern,
columns,
one
or
two
we
in
the
city
attorney's
office
will
flag
that,
for
you,
as
it
comes
to
council
and
goes
out
to
the
public
for
consideration,
there's
a
lot
of
data.
Don't
worry
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
this
data.
M
All
these
data
sets
are
out
there
for
residents
to
consider
and
when
each
map
comes
in,
NDC
will
process
it
and
generate
a
spreadsheet
that
says
all
of
these
numbers
for
each
district
in
the
plan.
So
someone
wants
to
see
a
district
that
is
majority
renter.
They
can
look
through
the
plans
that
come
in
check.
The
data
sheets
and
they'll
see
how
many
districts
in
that
map
are
majority
renter,
just
to
grab
a
random
example.
M
In
terms
of
the
federal
Voting
Rights
Act
concerns,
I
mentioned
before
you
can
see
here,
this
is
Latino's
cvap
citizens
of
voting
age
population.
So
this
is
the
data
the
courts
look
at
as
your
measure
of
eligible
voters-
and
you
can
see
the
purple
is
less
than
25
percent
of
these
citizens
of
voting
age
in
a
given
city,
block
or
census
block
are
Latino
as
it
gets
up
to
Greens,
yellows
and
reds.
Those
city
blocks
are
majority
Latino.
M
M
Now
you
can't
there's
too
many
people
to
draw
a
district
that
would
have
both
freeways,
the
the
length
of
them
all
in
one
District,
but
as
we're
drawing
lines,
we
want
to
try
to
avoid
dividing
up
neighborhoods
that
are
heavily
Latino.
In
particular,.
M
This
is
another
protected
class,
as
Asian
Americans,
you
can
see
we
get
a
few
where
they
go
up
from
from
below
25
to
25
to
35
percent,
but
we're
not
really
getting
significant
concentrations
where
it
would
drive
the
demographics
of
an
election
District.
So
we're
not
too
worried
about
potential
Voting,
Rights
Act
concern
involving
Asian
Americans
in
any
of
the
maps
same
thing
for
African
Americans.
M
Obviously
there
are
a
significant
number
of
African-Americans
in
the
city,
but
they're
not
geographically
concentrated
in
a
way
that
would
drive
the
demographics
of
a
district,
and
so
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
a
map
dividing
up
a
heavily
African-American
neighborhood,
for
example,
in
a
way
that
would
be
illegal.
So
when
we're
looking
Federal
Voting,
Rights
Act
concerns
we're
really
focusing
ethnicity
on
the
Latino
population
and
not
not
dividing
that
those
concentrations,
as
I
mentioned
all
that
other
data
is
available
both
as
numbers
that
will
come
out
for
each
map
and
as
Maps.
M
So
you
can
see
as
three
examples.
We
have
household
income
in
the
top
right
and
again
it's
the
blue
is
lower.
The
red
is
highest
children
under
age
18
at
home.
In
the
bottom
left,
you
can
see
different
concentrations,
but
definitely
more
of
a
concentration
of
families
that
have
kids
still
at
home
and
the
West
Side
than
in
other
parts
of
the
city,
and
then
the
renters.
You
can
see
in
the
bottom
right
again
no
surprise
concentrated
along
the
freeway
corridors,
in
particular.
M
So
those
are
some
numbers
and
data,
that's
what
we
provide
to
this
process.
What
we're
hoping
for
in
this
hearing
and
in
the
next
Hearing
in
particular,
is
that
residents
will
talk
about
their
neighborhoods
I
mentioned.
That
is
number
two
in
the
California
list
right
after
contiguity.
So
what
are
people's?
How
do
people
identify
their
neighborhoods
in
particular?
What
are
the
geographic
boundaries?
We
can't
translate
it
into
a
map
and
say
whether
or
not
a
map
divides
a
neighborhood
unless
we
know
where
those
residents
consider
their
neighborhood
and
people
can
Define
it
around.
M
Whatever
they
use
to
define
their
neighborhood
could
be
a
park,
it
could
be,
a
school
could
be
just
between
a
couple
of
roads
and
people
might
disagree
about
the
boundaries
of
their
neighborhoods.
That's
okay!
They
don't
need
to
argue
and
figure
out
who's
right.
Just
when
we
draw
lines
or
when
you
evaluate
Maps
you'll
see,
did
we
get
the
whole
neighborhood
or
maybe
we
just
are
able
to
get
the
core
neighborhood.
Both
of
those
are
fine
results.
M
Then,
where
it
gets
a
little
weird
in
districting
and
redistricting
is
what
we
call
communities
of
Interest.
What
is
a
community
of
interest,
it's
similar
to
a
neighborhood,
but
it
can
be
larger
again
we're
mapping,
so
we're
trying
to
look
for
Geographic
areas,
but
we're
looking
for
some
shared
issue
or
characteristic.
So
a
concentration
of
people
with
limited
English
fluency
could
be
a
community
of
interest.
That
obviously
has
an
interest
in
say,
translation
of
city
services,
folks
that
how
are
impacted
by
some
City
policy.
M
So
if
there's
a
part
of
the
city
that
is
particularly
hit
by
traffic
concerns,
that
area
could
be
a
community
of
Interest
could
be
whatever.
Roughly
speaking,
it's
whatever
tells
your
community's
story,
and
if
you
can
tell
us
the
what
ties
your
your
community
of
Interest
together
that
more
or
less
makes
a
community
of
interest.
But
there
is
a
second
qualification
that
the
state
law
has
added,
which
is
for
the
purposes
of
the
state
criteria.
M
The
community
of
Interest
has
to
benefit
from
being
kept
in
a
single
District.
At
first
glance.
Often
people
say
why,
wouldn't
you
be
well,
that
is
a
benefit
of
concentrating
the
votes.
It
increases
your
ability
to
elect
someone
from
your
community
to
the
council,
but
at
the
same
time
it
still
takes
a
majority
of
the
council
to
do
anything.
M
Some
people
sometimes
get
confused
and
think
this
is
like
the
county,
where
each
supervisor
really
runs
their
district
and
makes
huge
decisions
for
their
District.
That
doesn't
happen
in
cities.
Everything
still
comes
to
the
council,
just
as
it
does
today.
It
still
takes
a
majority
of
the
council
to
do
anything,
just
as
it
does
today.
So
sometimes
a
community,
often
a
large
retirement
community,
sometimes
a
downtown
or
other
economic
Center.
M
Other
areas
can
say.
Well,
we
are
a
community,
but
we
would
actually
like
to
have
two
council
districts
or
three
council
districts
come
through
our
area,
because
that
will
have
two
or
three
council
members
have
to
come
to
our
meetings
and
are
accountable
to
us,
even
though
it
reduces
the
odds
of
us
electing
anyone.
M
So
when
we
hear
from
the
community
about
what
is
your
community
of
Interest,
we
also
want
to
hear:
does
it
make
sense
for
your
community
to
be
kept
together
in
one
seat,
and
then
you
have
to
go
out
and
win
a
number
more
votes
to
pass
anything,
or
would
it
actually
make
sense
for
that
area
to
have
multiple
Representatives,
there's,
no
right
or
wrong
answer,
and
it
can
be
very
different
answers
for
different
communities,
but
that
is
part
of
the
law
noted
at
the
bottom
here
is
is
one
thing
in
the
state
law,
a
community
of
interest
is
not
defined
as
a
relationship
to
a
current
Council,
holder
or
candidate
or
a
political
party,
so
that
those
are
not
things
that
would
define
a
community
under
this
law.
M
So
that's
a
little
bit
of
introduction
to
this
process,
we'll
go
over
a
lot
of
that
and
what
repeatedly
in
the
future
hearings,
but
the
key
thing
tonight
and
for
getting
the
word
out
and
the
city
has
already
launched
its
Outreach
effort,
which
I'm
happy
to
see,
is
to
encourage
residents
to
get
involved
and
hopefully
to
use
some
of
these
tools.
M
I
do
want
to
emphasize
that
these
are
empowering
tools.
There's
no
need,
there's
no
requirement
to
use
them.
If
someone
doesn't
want
to
use
them
and
just
wants
to
come
up
and
share
their
thoughts.
We
love
that.
But
if
people
want
to
get
Hands-On
and
get
involved,
there's
everything
from
a
simple
just
like
a
Google
map
screen
that
lets.
You
look
at
the
draft
maps
and
zoom
in
and
out
and
type
in
an
address
and
see
where
that
address
is
to
some
paper
and
online
actual
mapping
tools
where
residents
can
draw
Maps.
M
So
first
of
all
is
the
simple
map
viewing
tool,
as
I
mentioned.
As
you
can
see
here,
it's
really
simple.
There's
on
the
left
hand,
side
in
the
top
left
you
can
see
plus
and
minus
to
zoom
in
just
like
Google
Maps.
On
the
right
hand,
side
are
a
whole
bunch
of
check
boxes,
so
all
the
draft
Maps
will
be
there.
So
Verizon
can
look
at
the
different
draft
Maps
and
then
all
that
demographic
data
that
I
mentioned
is
all
here.
M
So
people
can
look
at
that
at
the
renters
or
the
language
spoken
at
home
or
any
of
that
data
that
they
wish
to
see.
It's
a
really
simple
tool
again.
This
is
linked
from
the
city's
project
website
and
this
is
just
a
simple
viewer.
You
can't
draw
a
map
in
this
tool
if
folks
want
to
draw
Maps
but
they're
not
comfortable
on
a
computer
or
they
don't
have
good
internet
access.
We
do
have
paper
maps.
This
can
either
be
picked
up
from
the
city
hall
or
downloaded
right
off
the
project
website.
M
However,
residents
want
to
submit
these
Maps,
they
can
do
that
and
then
there's
what's
called
dra
or
Dave's
redistring
app.
This
is
an
app
that
was
launched,
I,
don't
know
20
some
years
ago
to
use
as
a
state
level
gerrymandering
tool,
and
now
it's
become
huge.
It's
run
by
a
non-profit.
Now
they
have
a
staff
of
15
supporting
it
and
just
in
this
redistring
cycle
in
2021
they
made
it
usable
at
the
city
and
School
District
level.
M
So
it's
a
very
handy,
easy
to
use
tool
it
lets
residents
draw
at
the
precinct
or
even
at
the
individual
City
Block
Level,
so
just
the
same
fine-tuned
data
that
I
have.
In
my
you
know,
multi-thousand
dollar
software.
Every
one
of
your
residents
now
has
in
this
online
tool
and
they
simply
use
the
paintbrush
tool
and
they
go
in
and
color
it
in
and
we'll
be
demoing
each
one
of
these
tools
at
the
community
workshops
that
are
planned.
So
if
residents
want
to
learn
more
about
it,
they
can
number
one
check
out.
M
So
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation
again.
The
the
statutory
purpose
of
this
hearing
is
to
hear
from
residents
about
the
neighborhoods
and
communities
of
interest
that
they
wish
to
see
respected
as
maps
are
drawn
and,
of
course,
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
or
the
residents
have
as
we
get
into
this
process.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
You
mayor
and
thank
you
very
much
for
your
presentation.
I
just
want
to
be
sure
I
understood
correctly
about
what
is
and
is
not
considered
a
community
of
interest.
So
two
that
I
think
may
be
included.
Please
tell
me
if
they
are
or
not
one
would
be
senior
citizens
and
one
would
be
a
group
of
at
some
really.
A
M
The
degree
they
would
be
geographically
concentrated,
so
we
could
identify
them
on
a
map
and
say
you
know,
here's
the
senior
living
complex,
for
example,
and
that
they
wanted
to
be
kept
in
a
single
District.
Then,
yes,
seniors
are
often
one
that
says.
Well,
obviously
they
meet
the
qualifications
of
a
community
of
interest,
but
famously
I
had
a
a
group
coming
to
me
and
say
we
turn
out
at
99.
F
Seat
provided
their
geographically
concentrated,
correct,
right,
okay,
very
good
and
then
I
think
I
know
the
answer
to
this,
but
I
just
want
to
be
sure
that
I'm
clear
and
that
the
public
is
clear
on
this
I
think
you
said
that
that
protection
of
incumbents
is
is
a
specific
non-goal
of
this
exercise.
Is
that
correct?
Well,.
M
Trying
to
avoid
pairing
them
is
one
of
those
traditional
criteria.
That's
not
a
statutory
requirement
at
all,
but
once
you
meet
once
a
map
meets
all
the
statutory
criteria,
then
you
can
it's
not
a
it's
not
illegal
to
then
say
well,
I
move
this
line,
one
block
in
order
to
avoid
pairing
two
council
members,
though
it
is
something
that's
allowed,
but
it's
not
required.
P
Strangler.
Thank
you
mayor.
Just
a
a
curiosity
question.
Currently
we
have
basically
three
governments
in
in
The
Conejo
Valley.
We
have
our
school
district,
our
recreation
parks
district
and
our
our
city
is
any
consideration
given
to
trying
to
match
up
those
those
borders
as
as
much
as
possible.
To
avoid
some
confusion
at
the
voting
at
a
Ballot
Box.
Is
that
something
that
also
can
can
be
considered.
M
It
certainly
can
be
considered,
and
it
is
a
common
question
that
comes
up
it's.
You
are
unusual
in
that
there's
somewhat
close
relationship
of
the
borderline
boundary
lines.
Often
school
districts
and
cities
overlap,
but
are
completely
different.
Yours
are
different,
but
not
radically
different,
so
they
they
can
be
considered.
You
are
correct
that
if
they
roughly
match,
then
that
is
simplifying
things
for
the
voters.
M
At
the
same
time,
the
the
concerns
that
each
jurisdiction
addresses
are
very
different,
so
sometimes
they
do
take
a
different
approach
to
drawing
the
lines.
For
example,
you
know
the
wrecking
Parks
district
has
a
very
specific
Mission.
The
School's
district
has
a
very
specific
Mission.
The
council
has
a
very
broad
Mission,
so
sometimes
those
the
factors
lead
to
different
Maps,
because
they're
keeping
different
communities
of
Interest
together.
So
it
is
something
that
is
is
often
considered
and
you
are
correct
the
degree
they
line
up.
M
That
does
avoid
some
confusion
at
campaign
time,
but
they
don't
have
to
be
considered
and
they,
and
sometimes
there
are
very
clear
reasons
for
why
they
don't.
So.
That's
certainly
something
we'd
love
to
hear
from
the
public
on
throughout
this
process.
B
M
There
was
a
wave
of
of
challenges
to
Health,
Care
districts
and
so
Tulare
hospital
has
an
elected,
Health,
Care
board,
and
so
they
were
sued
and
challenged
over
the
election
system
and
they
fought
it
in
court
for
a
while.
Actually,
they
fought
fairly
hard
and
they
lost
and
ended
up
paying
500
000.
So
any
elected
body-
that's
elected
you
know,
other
than
on
a
property
basis
can
be
challenged
under
this
law.
B
M
Yes,
so
the
number
of
seats
that
come
up
will
be
the
same
by
District
or
at
Large,
so
you'll
still
have
three
Council
seats
being
filled
in
2026
and
two
Council
seats
being
filled
in
2024.,
so
that
doesn't
change
and
the
the
default
is
if
one
current
council
member
ends
up
in
a
seat
and
only
one
that
seat
is
assigned
to
that
council
members
year
pretty
straight
forward,
it's
not
sexually
required,
but
that's
99.99
practice
where
it
gets
complicated
is
when
you
have
two
council
members
who
end
up
in
a
seat
and
those
two
council
members
are
elected
in
different
years
and
then
it's
part
of
this
process
to
decide
at
the
time
the
map
is
adopted,
which,
year
that
seat
will
be
up
and
the
scenarios
get
kind
of
mind-blowing
in
complexity.
M
When
you
start
running
into
that,
and
of
course,
in
that
case,
if
there
are
two
in
one
seat,
that
means
nobody's
in
another
seat
and
so
that
so
the
flip
side
of
the
decision
on
the
the
shared
seat
would
be.
The
flip
side
would
be
what
year
that
other
seat
gets
elected
to.
So
the
number
of
council
members
and
the
number
of
seats
selected
each
year
doesn't
change.
B
So
let's
say
we
have
a
council
member
in
2026
in
one
District
but
2024
the
current
seated
council
members
in
that
same
district.
Would
they
then
look
at
the
2024
race?
That's
one!
That's
running
in
26
would
run
in
24,
or
would
they
let
the
2024
run
and
then
but
then
2026?
They
can't
run
because
the
2024
members
already
been
elected.
Do
you
follow
my
question?
Yes,
how
is
that
handled
so.
M
At
the
time
of
picking
the
map,
the
council
would
decide
which
year
that
seat
is
up,
and
the
impact
of
that
decision
is
if
it's
chosen
to
be
2026.
The
20.
The
current
2024
member
would
finish
the
current
term
and
next
year
would
leave
office
and
then
two
years
later
could
run
for
that
seat,
not
as
incumbent
but
just
as
a
resident
running
for
the
seat.
M
You
yeah,
oh
I,
should
say
if
it's
assigned
to
2024
the
2026
member
can
run
midterm,
so
I
haven't
been
elected
in
2022
could
run
again
in
2024..
If
elected
you.
That
councilman
would
then
resign
the
remaining
two
years
of
their
city-wide
seat
and
be
sworn
into
the
district
seat,
leaving
a
city-wide
two-year
vacancy,
but.
M
B
Council
members,
any
other
questions,
we're
good,
let's
move
to
public
speakers
and
we
have
one
which
was
up
on
my
screen
and
I.
Don't
know
how
to
remove
that.
So
we
had
one.
We.
B
Thank
you,
sir.
So
let's
move
on
to
any
staff
responses.
B
Very
good,
let's
close
the
public
hearing
and
let's
move
to
discussion
any
discussion
with
council
members
we're
all
good
no
discussion.
I.
P
Think
we're
just
receiving
and
filing
this
I
don't
know
if
we
need
discussion
right
this
minute.
B
Well,
it
just
depends
if
you
do
want
to
discuss
it's
on
my
scripts.
That's
why
I'm
calling
for
it!
So
let's
do
this.
It
says
that
I
have
to
ask
for
a
motion
here,
Madam
clerk,
to
receive
the
report.
P
B
B
B
C
B
S
Thank
you
good
evening,
honorable
mayor
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Tyler
nesfed
I'm,
the
assistant
Transit
planner
and
I'm
joined
by
Mike
Hauser,
the
transit
program
manager.
This
item
is
for
the
2023
title:
VI
Plan
update
for
Thousand
Oaks
Transit
a
little
background.
The
title
six
is
part
of
the
Civil
Rights
Act
of
1964
and
ensures
equal
opportunity
for
all.
It
is
required
for
use
of
federal
federal
funding,
which
our
Transit
program
relies
on,
and
the
last
update
was
in
2021
with
a
limited
scope
due
to
covet
19..
S
The
2023
update
is
a
full
plan
and
is
due
by
June
30th
this
year,
City
hired
Moore
and
Associates,
who
prepared
our
original
plan
and
the
two
subsequent
updates.
No
findings
were
issued,
but
the
recommends
expanded
use
of
notices
and
postings
in
the
three
required
languages.
S
The
languages
are
English
Spanish
and
Chinese,
and
some
examples
of
those
posted
materials
would
be
our
brochure
our
website
postings,
our
social
media
postings.
B
No
questions
for
staff,
Madam
clerk
I,
don't
see
any
public
speakers.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
very
good
staff,
any
comments
there
we
go
so
with
that.
Let
me
close
the
hearing
Council
any
discussion.
B
S
S
B
R
Good
evening,
mayor
McNamee,
City,
Council
Members,
we
are
here
tonight
to
discuss
the
proposed
fiscal
year.
2023-24
and
fiscal
year.
24-25
operating
budget
featured
throughout
the
presentation
tonight
are
some
original
artwork
from
various
members
of
the
community
that
we
received
as
part
of
our
budget
engagement.
Outreach
focused
on
rooted
in
community.
R
The
study
session
tonight
is
the
third
and
final
study
session
of
our
biennial
budget
process.
This
year
we
held
our
CIP
budget
study
session
at
the
April
4th
city
council
meeting,
where
we
presented
our
proposed
CIP
budget
with
almost
130
million
invested
over
the
next
two
years
on
City
infrastructure
improvements,
user
fees
were
adopted
at
the
April
25th
public
hearing.
R
The
operating
budget
process
was
kicked
off
in
December
with
the
Citywide
budget
meeting
to
go
over
the
budget
process
in
the
general
state
of
the
city's
finances,
to
set
the
tone
for
departments
to
repair
their
budget
requests,
departments
prepared
their
budgets
between
January
and
February,
and
then
the
finance
budget
team
met
with
each
department
individually
to
review
their
budget
line
by
line
new
budget
requests
had
to
be
justified.
Staff
then
met
with
the
finance
audit
committee
on
May,
8th
to
review
the
proposed
budget.
R
Staff
once
again
focused
on
budget
engagement
with
the
community
through
its
your
city,
your
priorities,
budget
process.
There
was
a
variety
of
Outreach
methods,
including
in
person
on
our
budget
website
and
through
social
media.
The
goal
was
to
help
residents
gain
a
basic
understanding
of
the
municipal
budget
process
and
get
some
Community
feedback.
We
had
over
1
000
views
on
our
budget
website,
just
in
the
past
90
days
and
almost
2
000
during
our
entire
engagement
process.
R
Staff
relied
heavily
on
social
media
to
engage
the
public
through
Facebook,
Instagram
and
Twitter.
We
wanted
to
direct
the
public
to
our
budget
website,
provide
education
and
get
feedback.
Through
our
informal
budget
survey,
we
had
a
series
of
budget
videos
and
received
great
feedback
from
the
public
over
11
000
accounts.
Viewed
our
content
on
Instagram
for
cultural
Affairs
and
Community
Services.
The
video
highlighted
how
the
budget
supports
our
community
and
cultural
Affairs,
including
facilities
like
our
teen
center
and
Global
center
Grants
that
supports
Sports
and
environmental
stewardship
and
events
like
Community
concerts.
R
Our
library
system
is
comprised
of
over
390
000
items.
You
can
check
out
items
other
than
Books
five
cool
items.
You
can
check
out
from
the
library
of
things
on
Thousand
Oaks,
Transit,
we've
videoed
five
cool
places
you
can
visit
through
our
transit
system
and
the
video
on
our
Hill
Cannon
treatment
plant.
Where
does
your
waste
go
when
you
flush
some
of
the
comments
included
that
some
had
no
idea
about
the
park
pass
and
the
energy
kits
that
are
provided
by
the
library.
So,
overall
we
felt
that
this
was
an
effective
engagement
effort.
R
Our
online
budget
engagement
survey
was
focused
just
being
a
short
and
quick
survey
that
the
public
could
take
in
order
for
staff
to
get
a
high
level
understanding
in
combination
with
our
community
attitude
survey
of
what
residence
priorities
are.
This
was
a
small
sample
size
of
just
over
200
responses
and
is
not
a
statistically
valid
survey.
Like
our
community
attitude
survey
is
when
asked
to
rank
the
priority
of
city
services.
R
This
is
not
a
statistically
valid
survey.
It's
a
very
small
sample
size.
We
also
asked
a
question
on
services
and
Facilities
that
are
the
most
valued
by
our
residents
and
corresponding
themes
emerge
throughout
that
question.
There
was
a
high
value
placed
on
our
open
space,
our
Park
system,
our
libraries
and
bike
Lanes.
R
R
R
The
city
has
a
biennial
budget
process
in
what
we
adopt
a
budget
every
two
years.
As
usual
staff
was
conservative
in
our
Revenue
estimates,
and
we
took
into
consideration
increases
in
the
cost
of
doing
business
that
we
have
experienced
in
our
expenditure
budget
estimates.
The
city
continues
to
remain
fiscally
strong
as
evidence
in
past
actual
results
and
on
a
proposed
budget
that
incorporates
strategic
one-time
and
some
ongoing
Investments
and
services
and
infrastructure.
R
Our
budget
is
structurally
balanced
in
our
general
fund,
which
means
that
our
ongoing
operating
revenues
are
sufficient
to
cover
our
ongoing
operating
expenditures.
Reserves
in
our
general
funds
support
our
CIP
projects.
In
any
one-time
initiatives,
just
a
reminder
of
City
council's
top
10
priorities
for
this
fiscal
year,
they're
presented
here,
and
we
have
ensured
that
funds
have
been
set
aside
again
as
necessary.
To
achieve
these
priorities,
we
have
900
000
annually
in
our
general
fund
to
support
the
operation
of
our
planned
navigation
Center.
R
The
county
has
pledged
to
fund
half
of
that
cost
and
the
city
and
county
have
also
jointly
applied
for
a
state
encampment
resolution
Grant,
and
if
we
are
awarded
that
funding,
which
we
think
we
have
a
strong
application.
But
if
we
are
awarded
that
would
actually
pay
for
our
operations.
For
two
years
we
also
have
9
million
in
funding
towards
water
conservation
project,
which
we
discussed
in
our
CIP
budget.
We
have
1.4
million
and
1.3
million
each
year
in
budget
for
our
implementation
of
our
City's
General
plan.
R
Once
we
adopt
it,
we
have
to
update
Community
codes
and
specific
plans.
So
we
have
funding
set
aside
in
the
two
years
for
that
there's
4.5
million
in
our
CIP
carryover
that
we
still
have
for
any
potential
future
affordable
housing
opportunities
that
may
arise.
So
we
have
significant
funding
still
set
aside
that
if
something
were
to
come
up
over
the
next
two
years,
we
already
have
budget
to
be
able
to
move
quickly.
On
that,
oh,
we
have
budget
for
additional
alpr
technology,
the
automatic
License
Plate
Reader
technology
and
our
Public
Safety
category.
R
We
believe
that
this
additional
Staffing
is
fiscally
sustainable
in
the
long
term
and
that's
very
key.
We
weren't
going
to
propose
anything
that
we
thought
we
could
afford
now,
but
on
not
in
the
future.
We
feel
that
for
the
long
term
that
we
can
afford
these
additional
Staffing
increases,
we
did
a
measured
approach
to
Staffing
additions.
It
also
allows
for
flexibility
in
order
for
us
to
implement
the
addition
strategically
and
in
concurrence
with
a
sound
economy.
So
it's
not
that
we
have
16
positions
on
July
1st
of
this
year
that
are
going
to
get
filled.
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One
of
our
main
goals
of
a
Strategic
Staffing
additions
is
to
increase
our
efficiency
and
our
effectiveness
of
our
public
service.
That
is
evident
in
our
additions
in
our
community
development
department.
Over
both
years,
management
has
presented
several
times
here
at
city
council,
the
huge
increase
in
applications
across
the
board
that
the
department
has
witnessed
and
our
need
to
supplement
with
contract
firms
in
order
to
try
and
keep
up
with
that
workload
with
adoption
of
the
general
plan
later
this
year,
this
will
only
lead
to
a
further
increase
in
workload.
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Efforts
and
also
positions
in
our
public
works
department
in
our
finance
department,
go
to
further
our
goal
of
infrastructure
maintenance
and
also
in
tune
with
the
increasing
number
of
the
cap
projects
that
we
have
so
our
proposed
fiscal
year,
2324
Citywide
budget.
This
is
all
funds
is
266.1
million.
The
majority
of
the
budget
is
our
in
our
general
fund,
our
water
fund
and
our
Wastewater
fund.
Those
are
our
three
largest
funds.
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If
you
look
at
the
proposed
budget
by
category,
you
can
see
the
largest
budget
category
is
our
maintenance
and
operations
which
is
primarily
comprised
of
our
inner
Enterprise
fund
budgets,
Water
and
Wastewater,
specifically
salaries
and
benefits
are
next
with
about
a
quarter
of
the
Citywide
budget.
Of
course
we
have
to
employ
people
in
order
to
provide
service
to
the
public.
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Although
the
overall
expenditures
in
our
Journal
fund
are
greater
than
our
revenues,
that
is
primarily
because
of
our
CIP
projects,
which
are
funded
through
our
Reserves
support
from
the
general
fund
in
the
way
of
transfers
out
to
other
funds
includes
one
and
a
half
million
in
the
first
year
and
three
million
in
the
second
year
for
our
storm
water
program.
In
order
to
implement
the
mandated
permit,
compliance
costs,
our
revenue
and
our
stormwater
fund
is
insufficient
to
pay
for
these
mandated
costs,
and
so
that
requires
general
fund
support,
as
I
previously
mentioned.
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There's
funding
for
implementation
of
the
general
plan.
The
first
year
has
an
increase,
also
in
fuel
costs
of
about
1.3
million
due
to
Rising
both
unleaded
gasoline
costs
and
a
huge
increase
in
compressed
natural
gas
costs.
However,
a
lot
of
that
is
fully
offset
by
the
agencies
that
utilize
our
public
fueling
station
and
they
pay
us
for
the
fuel
that
they
use.
So,
although
we
have
a
large
increase
in
fuel,
we
also
have
an
offsetting
increase
in
our
Revenue
to
pay
for
that.
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We
have
900
000
items
mentioned
each
year
for
the
operations
for
our
navigation
Center
and
again,
the
County
of
Ventura
has
already
pledged
to
fund
half
of
those
costs.
There's
also
transfer
each
year
to
our
transfer
Transportation
fund
to
meet
farebox
match
requirements.
These
requirements
were
suspended
during
covid,
and
it's
hoped
that
the
suspension
will
continue
into
the
future
Ben
case
legislation
is
not
passed
that
allows
for
that
extension.
We
have
included
budget
here
for
the
transfers
and
then
we
also
include
additional
funding
for
sidewalk
maintenance
in
order
to
further
maintain
the
city
sidewalks.
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So,
just
in
looking
at
past
actuals
and
how
our
general
fund
has
done
over
the
years,
our
current
projections
for
this
fiscal
year
2022-23
are
also
included,
and
then
our
proposed
budget
for
the
next
two
years
is
shown.
It's
evident
in
this
graph.
The
strong
financial
position
the
city
is
in
the
city
has
been
able
to
make
significant
one-time
investments
in
the
community
over
the
past
several
years,
and
we've
made
some
strategic
Financial
sustainability
decisions
as
well.
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So
our
proposed
general
fund
Revenue
budget
for
the
first
year
2324,
is
109.6
million.
As
you
can
see,
the
majority
of
our
revenue
is
from
three
Revenue
sources:
our
sales
tax
and
over
a
third
of
our
Revenue,
our
property
tax
and
our
property
tax
in
lieu
of
vehicle
license
fee
Revenue
and
then
similar
numbers
for
the
second
year
of
the
budget.
A
little
bit
higher
at
111.8
million.
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So
just
diving
a
little
deeper
into
our
general
fund
proposed
revenues.
We
do
anticipate
our
sales
tax
to
increase
each
year,
as
our
businesses
continue
to
recover
from
covid,
and
people
continue
to
spend.
It's
relatively
conservative
increase
based
on
the
balance
between
potential
recession
and
known
added
businesses
that
we
know
are
coming
into
the
city
over
the
next
year.
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R
As
mentioned,
sales
tax
is
our
largest
revenue.
Source
I've
shown
this
slide
many
times
at
presentations,
but
you
can
see
how
our
seven
and
a
quarter,
which
is
the
lowest
that
you
can
have,
is
divided
out
amongst
different
agencies.
The
state's
general
fund
receives
the
largest
share
of
it.
Ventura
County,
Health
and
Welfare
receives
the
next
largest
share.
The
city
receives
about
13
of
the
total
sales
tax
paid.
So
it's
a
small
portion
of
that
sales.
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Tax
paid
in
Thousand
Oaks
directly
comes
back
to
the
city
to
be
sent
on
spit
on
to
be
spent
on
city
services
and
then
the
same
thing,
but
with
our
property
tax,
how
our
property
tax
is
divided
here
in
the
city,
the
city
actually
Incorporated
without
a
general
Municipal
property
tax,
and
we
now
receive
a
very
small
percentage,
called
tea
or
tax
Equity
allocation.
The
bulk
of
property
tax
goes
to
our
schools,
whether
it
be
CVUSD
or
State
education
or
Community.
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General
College,
our
fire
district
and
CRBT
crpd
also
receive
a
share
of
property
tax,
and
so
after
you
take
into
account
all
that,
only
four
percent
comes
back
directly
to
our
City's
Journal
fund
to
pay
for
services,
and
although
this
is
a
small
share,
the
city
actually
has
one
of
the
lowest
property
tax
rates
that
are
around.
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So
moving
on
to
general
fund
Appropriations,
the
proposed
budget
for
fiscal
year
2324
is
110.4
million.
The
largest
two
expenditures
are
salaries
and
benefits
at
38
and
police
services
at
31,
so
our
people,
those
who
are
providing
our
services,
are
the
largest
share
of
our
Journal
fund
budget,
then
proposed
Appropriations
budget
for
the
next
year
is
113.5
million.
So
just
a
slight
increase
from
the
first
year.
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So
diving
deeper
into
our
Appropriations
salaries
and
benefits
costs
are
proposed
to
increase
based
on
the
additional
Staffing
numbers
that
I
mentioned,
as
well
as
we're
currently
in
bargaining
unit
negotiations,
so
increases
for
that
our
Police
Services
increases
are
based
on
contact.
Contract
rate
increases
the
increase
in
the
first
year.
Over
projections
is
due
to
anticipated
salary
and
benefit
savings.
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This
is
the
historical
support
that
the
general
fund
has
consistently
supported
other
funds,
including
paying
for
our
library,
debt,
supporting
Library
Capital,
supporting
our
storm
water
program
and
supporting
open
space.
This
support
is
proposed
to
continue
during
this
budget
cycle,
with
the
addition
of
support
for
transportation
that
I
mentioned
to
meet
our
potential
farebox
requirements,
and
also
we
have
high
levels
of
support
you
can
see
in
that
blue
section
in
the
past
for
streets.
But
again
we
don't
need
that
over
the
next
two
years.
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Our
library
fund
proposed
budget
has
an
increase
in
operating
expenditures
from
projected
actuals,
primarily
due
to
salaries
and
benefits.
Our
hourly
Staffing
is
budgeted
to
increase
in
order
to
more
adequately
serve
the
public.
Our
general
fund
support
is
being
proposed
to
pay
for
the
capital
projects
that
are
planned.
We
have
a
large
solar
project
at
both
libraries,
as
well
as
our
library
renovation,
so
a
significant
amount
of
capital
in
our
library
fund.
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Our
lighting
fund
is
responsible
for
the
maintenance
and
operation
of
our
City's
traffic
signal,
State
and
safety
lighting
and
our
street
lights
revenues
primarily
from
our
lighting
special
assessment
and
General
ad
valorem
property
tax
revenue
is
projected
to
be
relatively
flat.
We
are
restricted
by
how
much
our
special
assessment
can
increase
annually
are
operating.
The
expenditures
are
projected
to
slightly
increase
in
the
first
year
due
to
the
increases
in
electricity
cost
that
we
are
seeing.
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Our
City's
Landscaping
assessment
District
fund
is
responsible
for
the
maintenance
and
Improvement
of
landscaping
throughout
the
Landscaping
assessment
District
zones,
much
as
the
lighting
fund,
our
Landscaping
fund
primarily
receives
Revenue
through
special
assessments
and
the
General
ad
valorem
property.
Tax
operating
expendures
are
budgeted
to
increase
due
primarily
to
water
costs,
rising
and
contract
maintenance
costs
Rising.
Our
Landscaping
fund
currently
has
sufficient
fund
balance
to
pay
for
the
Capital
Improvements
in
year.
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Two
and
the
fund
is
structurally
balanced,
with
operating
Revenue,
exceeding
operating
expenditures
right
now,
we're
putting
aside
funding
for
our
Capital
Improvements
that
we
know
are
upcoming
in
the
future.
Our
assessments
have
been
set
and
we'll
be
coming
back
with
a
public
hearing
to
do
our
assessments
for
both
poliding
and
Landscaping.
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Our
stormwater
fund
is
responsible
for
the
operation
and
maintenance
of
the
city
stormwater
program
and
in
compliance
with
our
npdes
permit.
The
two
Revenue
sources
are
county-wide
special
assessment,
which
has
not
been
increased
by
the
county
since
1995
as
they'd
have
to
go
to
a
vote
of
the
people
and
the
other
operating
Revenue
source
is
sales
of
reclaimed
water.
As
you
can
see,
the
general
offense
supports
our
stormwater
program,
as
our
revenues
are
not
sufficient
to
fund
the
operations
in
the
capital.
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The
ability
to
fund
this
program
is
not
unique
to
our
city.
Every
city
across
the
state
experiences
this
issue
and
we're
seeing
abreast
of
grant
opportunities
and
the
Statewide
regulatory
discussion
regarding
our
stormwater
programs
and
we're
hoping
that
the
federal
government
and
the
state
will
step
up
with
some
funding.
Support.
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Our
water
fund
is
responsible
for
delivering
water
to
approximately
one-third
of
the
city
or
over
17
000
customers.
Our
revenue
is
primarily
from
water
sales
and
our
base
charges.
Staff
does
have
a
focus
on
sustainability
of
our
water
system
long
term,
in
reducing
our
Reliance
on
imported
water.
As
we
are
in
what
it
seems
to
be
perennial
drought
conditions
proposed
operating
revenues
are
increasing
significantly
in
the
first
year
due
to
an
inspected
increase
in
water
usage
based
on
the
lifting
of
water
restrictions,
which
leads
to
a
corresponding
increase
in
Revenue.
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R
As
discussed
at
the
CIP
study
session,
the
water
fund
has
many
significant
capital
projects
planned
over
the
next
two
years.
The
water
fund
has
been
setting
aside
reserves
over
the
past
several
years
to
fund
these
planned
CIP
projects,
and
so
we
do
have
adequate
fund
balance
to
do
so.
Staff
will
be
updating
our
water
Financial
plans
and
developing
rates
and
will
return
to
fall
to
city
council.
This
fall
in
our
Wastewater
fund.
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R
Our
proposed
operating
expenses
are
projected
to
increase,
based
on
increase
in
salaries
and
benefits
and
increases
in
maintenance
and
operations
staff
actually
just
received
bids
the
other
day
for
chemicals
and
we'll
have
to
increase
our
budget
in
the
public
hearing
that
you'll
see,
because
the
cost
and
of
the
bids
that
we
received
back
to
purchase
chemicals.
Such
as
chlorine
was
astronomically
high
and
we
have
to
have
those
chemicals
in
order
to
properly
treat
our
waste
water.
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Much
like
the
water
fund.
The
Wastewater
fund
has
been
setting
aside
reserves
over
the
past
several
years
to
fund
our
significant
plan,
CIP
projects
that
we
have
and
we'll
also
be
updating
our
Wastewater
financial
plan,
just
like
our
water
plan,
and
that
will
be
returning
to
City
Council
in
the
fall
with
our
water.
As
mentioned
previously,
this
past
December,
the
city
made
its
final
payment
on
our
outstanding
loan.
We
used
to
have
three
different
debt.
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R
Our
transportation
fund
is
responsible
for
providing
bus
and
Dial-A-Ride
services
in
the
city.
In
addition,
the
city
is
the
designated
operator
for
our
East
County
Transit
Alliance,
as
well
as
contracts
with
various
other
agencies
to
provide
bus
and
dial
right
services.
Our
revenues
are
primarily
from
state
and
federal
sources.
Various
capital
projects
are
proposed
as
part
of
the
CIP
budget
and
will
not
move
forward
without
adequate
grant
funding.
In
addition,
long-term
planning
is
continuing
about
the
future
of
transit
services
and
county-wide
basis.
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R
So
our
lasts,
or
actually
next
to
last
one,
our
Golf
Course
fund
is
responsible
for
our
operations
and
maintenance
of
the
Los
Robles
Greens
Golf
Course
and
banquet
facilities
and
is
managed
through
a
management
agreement
with
Arcus
golf
Revenue
greatly
increased
due
to
the
public
wanting
to
go
outdoor
and
do
outdoor
activities
during
covid
and
fiscal
year.
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revenue
is
slightly
lower
due
to
the
number
of
rounds
slightly
decreasing,
although
it
is
still
tough
to
get
a
tea
time
at
our
Golf
Course.
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Our
theater's
fund
revenues
were
posed
to
increase
due
to
the
number
of
shows
that
are
anticipated
and
the
increase
in
rates
that
were
recently
adopted
by
city
council
as
part
of
our
user
peace
process.
Our
operating
expenses
are
also
projected
to
increase
primarily
due
to
increases
in
utilities
costs.
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This
budget
presents
the
first
increases
to
Staffing
levels
in
over
a
decade
via
a
very
measured
approach,
targeted
to
increase
our
public
service
and
response
times
insure
adequate
maintenance
of
our
city
assets
such
as
our
sidewalks.
This
budget
presents
a
fiscally
sustainable
plan
for
the
next
two
years
of
providing
city
services
and
infrastructure
Investments.
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Staff
recommendations
are
to
receive
information
on
the
proposed
budget
and
to
schedule
a
public
hearing
for
June
6.
and
for
our
review
and
Adoption
of
our
two-year
budget.
I
want
to
thank
our
city
staff.
This
is
a
lot
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
across
the
board
from
every
single
one
of
our
departments.
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To
put
this
together,
you
can
imagine
we
have
thousands
and
thousands
of
budgetary
accounts
that
we
look
at
individually,
every
single
one
and
really
really
want
to
thank
all
the
Departments
and
their
work
on
putting
this
together
and
especially
like
to
thank
our
Deputy
Finance
director,
Carrie
Matson
and
our
acting
budget
officer,
Ryan,
Roman
and
then
staff
are
available
for
questions.
B
B
I,
sometimes
am
just
so
blessed
that
I
am
here
with
the
council
here
in
Thousand
Oaks,
because
we
do
not
have
the
budget
concerns
that
other
cities
do
and
that's
because
of
the
fiscal
responsibility.
That's
been
put
on
your
shoulders
and
the
way
in
which
we
handle
our
spending
of
the
monies
here
in
Thousand
Oaks
provides
the
quality
of
life
that
we
really
enjoy.
I'd
like
to.
If
I
may,
open
up
to
questions,
Mr
Taylor.
D
R
A
few
years
every
year
the
state
compiles
information
from
each
City's
annual,
comprehensive
financial
report,
and
they
have
different
risk
categories,
whether
it
be
how
you're
doing
on
your
pension
funding,
how
you're
doing
on
your
retiree,
Health
funding
or
other
post-employment
benefits
funding.
How
your
reserves
are,
how
your
revenue
is
they're.
Looking
at
all
these
factors
and
doing
rankings
of
every
single
City
and
are
they
high
risk?
Are
they
very
low
risk
and
Thousand
Oaks
consistently
has
ranked
at
the
top
so
400?
Whatever
you
know,
cities,
which
is
a
good
thing.
R
That
means
we
are
at
a
very,
very
low
risk,
City
and
primarily
because
of
all
the
efforts
that
we
have
done
towards
our
pension
funding.
You
know
previous
councils
have
dedicated
22.5
million
towards
our
pension.
We
do
additional
funding
for
our
pension
every
single
year,
so
our
pension
funding
risk
is
a
lot
low.
You
have
cities
that
have
Public
Safety
police
fire;
it
costs
them
a
lot
to
provide
pensions,
and
we've
done
very
very
well.
In
that
area.
We
have
strong
general
fund
revenues.
As
you
can
see,
we
have
very
high
reserves.
R
Our
reserves
and
our
general
fund
are
over
160
million.
Our
budget
was
110
million,
so
our
reserves
can
fund
more
than
a
year
of
our
operating
costs
in
our
general
fund.
If
in
case,
some
crisis
were
to
happen,
so
we're
very
proud
of
the
fact
that
how
high
we
rank
in
comparison
with
other
cities,
yeah.
D
And
we
are
blessed
by
it,
I
think
it's
a
testimony.
All
the
hard
work,
two
questions.
I
have
one.
You
talked
about
adding
new
positions
post
the
financial
crisis,
and
you
talked
about
a
staggered
approach
or
a
strategic
approach.
In
case
we
end
up
in
a
recession,
I
I,
think
I
know
the
answer,
but
I
just
want
to
clarify
the
approach
we're
taking.
If
we
do
have
an
economic
downturn,
you
don't
see
a
situation
where
we
hire
and
then
have
to
let
go.
D
R
Yeah,
we
have
nine
that
we're
planning
for
this
first
year
and
then
seven
the
second
year,
so
we're
not
filling
nine
July
1st,
like
I
mentioned
this,
will
be
rolled
out
slowly.
We
are
constantly
in
the
finance
department
paying
attention
to
our
major
Revenue
sources,
whether
it
be
sales
tax,
which
is
you
know,
driven
by
the
economy.
So
if
we
do
start
to
see
signs
of
a
Slowdown,
then
we
wouldn't
necessarily
fill
the
positions
as
fast.
D
And
then
last
question
you
mentioned:
we
have
160
million
dollars
in
a
reserve
which
is
paying
for
some
of
the
Capital
Improvements
or
Investments
we're
making.
What
is
the?
Is
there
a
standard
percentage
or
policy
that
cities
try
to
maintain
in
their
reserves
and
how
much
do
we
hold
and
then
I
guess
the
follow-up
would
be
even
it
with
these
Investments.
Does
that
put
us
at
a
risk
of
falling
into
a
scary
position
which
I
think
I
know
the
answer,
but.
R
Yeah,
so
a
city
council's
policy
is
to
have
20
percent
Reserve,
so
100
million
you
have,
you
know:
20
million
in
reserves,
as
I
mentioned,
we
have
160
million
in
our
reserves,
so
we
greatly
exceed
city
council
policy
and
that's
pretty
standard.
What
city
governments
try
to
shoot
for
is
about
a
20
emergency
Reserve.
In
case
something
happens.
So
even
if
something
were
to
happen,
we
obviously
significantly
exceed
that
emergency
Reserve.
Okay,.
D
R
J
Yeah
I
might
piggyback
on
that,
because
it's
a
good
question
from
councilmember
Taylor.
You
know
the
reason
you
have
emergency
reserves.
It's
an
important
reminder
to
the
community
at
large
is
in
the
event
of
a
catastrophic
natural
disaster.
Like
An
Earthquake
and
you
would
have
Society
kind
of
come
to
a
halt
expectation
is
that
water
is
going
to
continue
to
be
repaired
and
flowed.
The
bridges
are
going
to
be
repaired,
transportation
is
going
to
be
able
to
be
returned.
J
P
Mr
England,
it's
just
one
quick
question:
Ms
boscarino
I
neglected
to
ask
you
when
we
met
the
other
day,
we
have
some
money
earmarked
in
our
in
our
funds
for
affordable
housing
and
that
sort
of
effort
is
any
of
that
money.
I
think
it
was
4.5
million.
Is
it
any
of
that
time
sensitive
mind
stuff
that
we
need
to
address
quickly?
No.
R
It's
actually
not
time
sensitive,
we
strategically
when
we
purchased
the
Hillcrest
property
for
the
for
sale,
affordable,
housing
project
and
also
when
we
did
our
project
home
key
project.
We
used
the
time
sensitive
funding.
First,
we
had
funds
set
aside
that
we
were
required
to
spend
within
a
certain
amount
of
time,
so
we
use
those
first,
so
what
we
still
have
there's
no
time
sensitivity.
So
if
something
comes
up
two
years
from
now,
those
funds
will
still
be
available.
B
Any
other
questions
I
have
several
if
I
may
on
the
survey
that
was
conducted,
that
wasn't
a
scientific
survey
just
a
sort
of
like
a
feel-good.
Let's
see
what
that
comes
back
was
any
question
asked
regarding
the
Public's
interest
of
water
and
rainwater,
reuse
and
sustainability.
R
B
Right
because
we've
been
emphasizing
basically
conserve
water
and
reduce
your
water
use,
and
we
need
to
move
into
the
proactive
side
of
sustainability
of
what
we
do
have
the
other
question.
I
got
again
several
fees,
penalties
from
the
EPA
come
down
every
time
we
have
a
rainstorm
on
the
east
side
of
Thousand
Oaks,
where
the
bacteria
levels
go
up
in
the
Creeks,
further
Downstream
and
we're
getting
hit
with
fees
and
penalties
from
the
EPA.
What
are
those
costs
of
those
fees
and
penalties?
I
Yes,
actually,
at
this
point
in
time,
we
are
not
actually
being
penalized.
We
are
on
I
believe
it's
a
time
schedule
order
to
come
up
with
a
solution
to
to
resolve
those
that
things
which
which
currently
one
of
the
things
we're
working
with,
is
the
county
and
Los
virgines
to
talk
about
possibly
collecting
that
rain
water
and
reusing
it
creating
potable
water
out
of
it
through
the
Los
virgines,
Pure,
Water
Project.
So.
B
We
had
a
discussion,
they
said
Los
virginas
water
plant
that
they're
developing,
so
good.
Thank
you
next,
one
I
have
for
you
is
one
of
the
things
I
like
about
Thousand
Oaks
is
that
the
business
tax
is
low,
because
you
want
to
leave
money
in
the
economy
to
stimulate
the
exchange
of
product
and
service,
and
we
pick
it
up
through
the
purchase
of
product
and
service
through
the
sales
tax
that
keeps
us
moving
forward
and
by
having
a
low
business.
B
Tax
I
think
is
a
tremendous
benefit
of
keeping
the
money
in
the
economy
instead
of
government
taking
it
out
and
slowing
down
the
exchange
of
product
and
service,
so
I'm
very
excited
about
that.
Is
that
your
understanding,
as
well
with
the
movement
of
money
in
the
economy.
R
Yeah
I
definitely
agree
that
we
do
have
a
low
business
tax
in
Thousand
Oaks.
We
want
to
stimulate
the
economy,
we
want
to
encourage
businesses
to
come
in
here.
We
actually
have
businesses
that
are
looking
to
look
at
here
and
they
ask
us.
What
is
your
business
tax?
Where
are
we
gonna
have
to
be
paying
and
they
compare
us
to
other
cities
and
we
usually
pay
Fair,
pretty
favorably.
So.
B
I
was
speaking
not
too
long
ago
at
a
event
with
the
other
Mayors
in
the
area,
Agora,
Westlake
and
ourselves,
and
the
comment
I
made
was
that
I
go
out
on
Sundays
to
our
malls
to
find
out
concerns
about
our
constituents,
our
residents,
any
concerns
about
the
city
and
bring
them
back
to
our
city
manager,
who
he
addresses
them
and
I
find
oftentimes
about
half
the
people.
I
talk
to
are
not
from
Thousand
Oaks.
B
They
come
from
Northridge
Simi,
Valley,
West,
Lake
Agora
to
shop.
They
not
only
enjoy
our
malls
and
our
shopping
centers,
but
also
the
low
tax
rate
for
sales.
Tax
they'd
rather
pay
seven
and
a
quarter
than
some
of
our
sister
cities
paying
just
under
10
charging
just
under
10
for
sales
tax,
so
that
has
been
a
boom
for
our
economy
here,
our
low
sales
tax
rate
and
I.
Thank
you
for,
and
my
council
members
for
keeping
it
low.
Next,
you
talked
about
a
14.2
percent
increase
in
salary
and
benefits.
B
R
So
it's
a
combination
of
and
the
14
and
a
half
is
looking
over
our
projections
for
this
year,
so
we
have
vacancies.
So
if
you
look
at
it
over
projections
from
this
year,
which
is
coming
in
significantly
under
budget
because
of
vacancies
compared
to
where
we're
setting
the
budget
at
that
accounts
for
some
of
that
increase,
another
part
of
the
increase
is
because
of
the
additional
Staffing
that
we're
adding
and
then
the
other
part
of
the
increase
is
proposed,
Union
negotiations
and
what
we
think
will
come
out
of
that.
B
I
We
in
the
past
we
have
done
10
million,
but
that
is
a
result
of
saving
water
and
conservation
throughout
the
city.
What's.
B
B
Q
Well,
thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
Jamie
and
staff.
I
know
this
takes
a
long
time
to
put
together
an
operating
budget
of
260.
Odd
million
dollars
appreciate
that
and
thank
you
for
taking
into
consideration
the
public
comments.
I
think
you
addressed,
affordable,
housing,
water
conservation,
homelessness,
Public,
Safety,
it's
all
in
there,
so
it
was
great,
and
just
some
of
the
highlights
that
stood
out
to
me
is
number
one:
we're
virtually
a
debt
free
City.
Q
We
owe
almost
zero
and
that's
rare
for
a
city
of
our
size,
happy
to
see
that
after
covid,
the
theaters
you
know
were
under
a
lot
of
pressure
and
we're
at
the
point
now,
where
we're
almost
break
even
with
the
theaters
and
Jonathan
I
think
mentioned
to
me
that
we're
booked
to
the
middle
of
next
year.
So
that's
a
great
big
Improvement.
Thank
you.
Q
Jonathan
we've
been
known
for
our
Public
Safety
here
in
the
city,
we're
always
rated
up
in
the
top
cities
in
the
in
the
state
and
and
that's
why
we
spend
a
third
of
our
general
fund
Budget
on
Public
Safety.
So
thank
you
for
Jeremy
for
making
us
a
safe,
City.
I.
Think
it's
money
wisely
spent
and
as
far
as
pension
costs,
you
know
we
a
while
back.
Q
We
decided
to
basically
refi
our
pension
debt
from
30
years,
10
to
15
years,
save
the
taxpayer
15
million
bucks
by
doing
that,
and
we
have
a
pension
stabilization
fund
that
we
started
with
22
million
I
think
it's
up
to
28
million
now
so
and
that's
just
in
four
years
so
that
that's
a
big
highlight
for
me
too
and
as
the
mayor
said,
you
know
we're
a
low
tax
City.
We
don't
impose
a
property
tax
on
anybody.
Q
We
haven't,
since
the
city
was
incorporated,
we're
seven
and
a
quarter
percent
on
sales
tax
and
and
what
we
get
for,
that
is
40
of
our
general
fund
are
sales
tax.
That's
where
the
greater
Canal
Valley
Chamber
of
Commerce
is
so
important,
because
we
rely
on
you
to
support
our
businesses
and
to
help
us
grow
them.
So
thank
you
for
that
Danielle
and
finally,
I'm
very
pleased
with
the
way
this
has
been
put
together
and
I
know
we
have
to.
Q
This
is
a
study
session,
so
I'll
move
that
we
accept
the
study
and
we'll
go
on
to
approve
the
budget
in
June
I
believe
correct.
P
P
P
We
trimmed
our
our
our
people
by
almost
over
a
hundred
people
about
10
years
ago
and
have
stayed
at
that
level.
All
these
years
in
the
past
10
years,
there's
been
a
lot
of
things
added
to
the
plate
in
the
past
10
years,
Code
Compliance
this
this
Wastewater
or
a
storm
water
issue
that
has
now
come
to
us
that
takes
people
to
manage.
P
So
the
thing
that
I
noticed,
though,
is
that
the
people
were
adding
are
just
about
all
public
facing
people,
people
in
our
community
development
department
who
are
going
to
be
able
to
do
our
plan
checks
quicker
and
more
efficiently.
People
in
in
public
works
that
we
have
just
had
Public
Works
day
to
day,
who
do
keep
our
roads,
nice
and
straight
and
and
do
all
the
things
that
make
this
city
function
seamlessly.
P
There's
there's
nothing
like
knowing
that
the
waste
treatment
plant
is
going
to
work
when
you
need
it
that
that
happens
without
a
thought
by
most
of
our
citizens
and
that's
not
an
accident,
so
I'm
glad
to
see
that
our
public
facing
people
we're
going
to
enhance
that
so
that
we
can
continue
that
good
service
that
we
that
people
expect
and
that
we're
proud
of
and
I,
think
I
would
support
the
the
motion
to
accept
the
the
the
information
and
look
forward
to
you
coming
back
in
June.
P
F
Thank
you,
I
want
to
Echo
the
the
Kudos
that
others
others
have
given,
certainly
to
finance
to
to
you
and
your
staff,
who
have
done
a
wonderful
job
of
clearly
explaining
a
complex
topic,
the
the
budget,
a
two-year
budget
and
and
as
well
really
to
All
City
staff
who
worked
with
you.
This
is
a
collaborative
process,
especially
pleased
about
the
community
theme
of
this
and,
first
and
foremost,
the
community
input
that
went
into
this.
F
This
is
a
collaborative
Cooperative
process
and,
although
the
survey
you
did
is
not
statistically
valid,
it
is
its
findings
are
very
much
in
line
with
other
surveys
that
our
city
has
done
and-
and
this
is
a
budget
that
identifies
and
addresses
priorities
that
our
residents
are
asking
for.
There's
money
for
homelessness,
for
addressing
homelessness,
there's
money
for
public
safety
for
keeping
our
city,
one
of
the
safest
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
you
know.
F
F
We
have
great
open
space,
we
have
first-rate
libraries,
we
have
great
schools,
we
have
really
good
streets.
All
that
good,
good
Public
Services.
F
The
financial
process
is
not
something
you
see,
but
but
good
fiscal
management
and
fiscal
responsibility
is
just
as
important
to
this
being
a
wonderful
place
as
any
of
the
things
that
we
can
see
or
touch
and
I
commend
you
for
your
good
stewardship
in
that
area
and
that
that's
why
I'm
pleased
to
support
this
budget.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
Mr
Newman
I
would
like
to
dovetail
on
Mr
Adams
comments
in
that
I
treat
my
private
practice,
police
and
fire
on
a
frequent
basis
and
hear
comments
about
what
crime
is
taking
place
in
our
community
but,
more
importantly,
the
tone
and
tenor
of
what
is
occurring
within
each
of
the
Departments
and
I
can
tell
you
that,
listening
to
other
agencies,
law
enforcement
and
fire
that
we
are
very
very
blessed
that
our
police,
who
are
part
of
Ventura
County
sheriffs,
have
a
wonderful
rapport
with
the
people
here
in
Thousand
Oaks.
B
The
people
here
at
Thousand,
Oaks
respect
our
law
enforcement
are
active
in
our
community
to
inform
the
place
of
crime
taking
place.
But
the
second
step
on
that
is,
our
police
are
responsive
and
a
courteous
but
enforcement
way,
and
because
of
that,
we
have
a
wonderful
community
that
is
considered
safe
by
any
standards.
B
When
you
look
around
the
Southland
and
again
I
applaud
my
hats
off
to
Chief
Paris
and
our
Sheriff
Jim
fry
off
for
setting
that
tone
for
our
law
enforcement
and
thanks
to
our
citizens,
who
support
our
law
enforcement
and
point
out
crimes
that
take
place
and
the
responsiveness
of
our
police
to
address.
It
really
puts
us
head
and
shoulders
among
other
agencies,
as
well
as
other
cities
regarding
crime.
So
thank
you,
sir.
B
Q
Yeah
I'm
moving
12a
the
accepting
the
proposed
operating
budget
study
session.
B
The
report
I'm
going
to
share
with
you
California
League
of
cities,
is
where
all
the
cities
in
California
come
together
as
a
United
voice
to
deal
with
legislation
in
Sacramento
to
have
our
voices
heard
from
the
city,
side
and
I
have
to
say
our
Washington
Group,
who
went
to
Washington
to
Lobby
on
grant
money
for
a
wonderful
City.
We
took
the
show
on
the
road
April
for
Sacramento,
so
council,
member
ingler
and
Newman
and
I
I.
Think
we've
got
our
stick
down.
Do
we
not?
B
We
did
well,
so
we
attended
the
Cal
cities
Summit
in
April
and
that's
where
we
cut
again
had
a
lot
of
meetings
with
our
Representatives.
While
we
were
there
for
that
Summit
we
met
with
Jackie
Irwin
our
assembly
member
and
her
staff.
We
met
with
legislative
directors
for
Senator
Stern's
office
and
El
mirachi,
and
we
discussed
legislative
bills
sponsored
by
each
office,
including
ab1035,
which
deals
with
rent
control
for
mobile
homes.
Now
the
city
does
not
control
the
rent
for
our
mobile
home
parks.
The
state
controls
the
mobile
home
parks
through
rent
control.
B
But
that's
the
challenge
of
Cal
cities
is
to
how
to
address
this,
and
again
one
of
the
things
discussed
was
Jackie
Irwin
our
assembly
member.
She
had
a
wonderful,
wonderful
piece
of
legislation
that
ended
two
years
ago
that
the
Prop
47
changed
the
misdemeanor
to
a
felony
used
to
be
at
400
worth
of
theft.
B
Businesses
weren't
even
reporting
it
simply
because
it
wasn't
worth
the
effort
to
take
someone
off
the
floor,
fill
out
a
police
report
and
nothing's
going
to
happen
so
assembly
member
Irwin
put
through
a
brilliant
Bill
several
years
ago.
That
said,
it
was
cumulative
that
when
you
steal
something
that
adds
to
the
total
of
950.
B
well,
that
expired
two
years
ago,
if
I
remember
correctly,
and
she
brought
it
back
last
year
and
didn't
get
out
of
committee,
it
was
there
this
year
and
I,
don't
know
if
it
got
out
of
committee
or
not,
but
something
to
that
effect
and
that's
something
that
we
need.
So
at
least
it
gives
some
teeth
that
the
Felon,
the
misdemeanors,
could
now
be
brought
into
felonies.
B
We
lobbied
on
behalf
of
ab1637
proposal
for
government
agencies
to
transition
to.gov,
and
our
city
is
already
ahead
of
that.
We
are
on
our
way
to
doing
that.
Sb
717
diversion
program
for
criminals
with
mental
health
issues.
This
again
gives
the
ability
for
law
enforcement
to
say
you've
got
two
choices.
You
can
either
go
to
mental
health
programs
or
go
to
county
jail,
and
that
gives
them
a
little
more
effort
to
get
them
treatment.
B
B
Number
two
increase
the
supply
and
affordability
of
housing
while
retaining
local
division
decision,
making
three
improved:
Public
Safety
in
California
communities,
four
Safeguard,
essential
local
revenues
and
support
fiscal
sustainability.
Specific
babajit
Cherry
asked
was
Cal.
Cities
is
to
request
3
billion
and
continue
funding
for
affordable
housing
and
homeless
programs
for
local
governments.
B
I
have
to
say
our
delegation
participated
a
number
of
breakout
sessions
from
communication
skills
for
leaders,
future
of
home,
key
Motel,
conversions,
best
practices
for
illegal
dumping,
Surplus
Land,
Act,
Universal
inclusion
and
housing,
and
how
to
fight
crime
with
civiliz
litigation.
I
have
to
say
that
I
was
just
very
impressed
with
how
councilman,
Newman
and
council
member
angler
and
I
were
able
to
communicate
the
needs
of
Thousand
Oaks
and
hopefully
make
some
changes
there
in
Sacramento
to
help
these
bills
get
through.
B
If
I
may
digress
here
for
a
moment,
councilmember
Englert
is
anything
you
want
to
comment
on
Cal
cities
at
this
point
we'll
come
back
to
the
other
one,
but
anything
on
Cal
cities.
No.
P
No
not
for
the
leadership
conference,
it
was,
it
was,
as
you
said,
it
was
you've
covered
pretty
much
everything.
We
worked
on.
It's
an
opportunity
for
us
on
the
council
and
staff
to
to
get
direct
input
to
some
of
the
decision
makers
up
in
Sacramento,
and
we
voice
strongly
some
of
the
things
that
you've
mentioned:
Mr
Mayor
and
hopefully
we
we
have
some
receptive
ears
up
there.
Mr
Newman.
F
I
want
to
Echo
all
that's
been
said.
That's
a
very
comprehensive
report
and
I
concur
with
council
member
Engler
about
the
importance
of
going
face
to
face
it's
good
to
have
phone
calls
and
zoom
calls
and
all
that,
but
this
virtual
stuff
only
goes
so
far.
You
have
to
be
there
in
the
room
and
I
especially
want
to
call
out
the
the
expert
work
of
our
legislative
affairs
person
on
staff,
Ms
minaleva,
who
knows
the
players.
She
knows
the
issues,
Inside
Out
anyone
who's
interested.
F
What
we're
doing
on
these
these
trips,
either
to
Washington
or
Sacramento
or
wherever
these
are
not
junkets.
These
are
substantial
fact-finding
and
fund
finding
trips
to
for
the
betterment
of
all
residents
here
and
anyone
who
wants
to
know
more
about
them.
I
encourage
you
to
read
amina's
report,
which
is
part
of
tonight's
agenda,
so
very
well
done.
Thank.
B
You
for
acknowledging
Mina
leyba's
efforts
here,
because
without
her
we
would
not
have
the
success
in
Sacramento
Washington
that
we
do.
It
takes
a
lot
of
work
and
it's
usually
12
13
14
hour
days,
but
it's
very
rewarding
and
I
think
we
did
a
very
good
job
council
members
I
think
we
did
well
with
that.
We
have
a
any
I'm
asking
for
a
motion
on
16a
one
and
two.
Anyone.
D
D
B
P
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
It
was
a
good
good
event.
I'm.
Sorry,
you
weren't
able
to
be
there
myself
and
council
member
Taylor
attended
this
this
event.
This
is
another
in
a
series
of
opportunities
for
us
to
meet
face
to
face
with
cities
in
our
general
areas.
This
channel
channel
counties
division.
So
it's
it's
the
beachfront
properties
all
along
from
Ventura
to
Monterey.
P
P
In
particular,
they
have
a
pretty
robust
series
of
murals
and
public
art
that
is
growing
throughout
their
downtown
area,
and
they
were.
They
were
able
to
highlight
all
that
for
us
in
a
special
tour.
They
are
becoming
known
in
the
art
world
as
a
destination
to
come
and
see
some
of
the
notable
murals
that
have
been
put
in
as
well
as
parks
with
art
parquettes.
There
was
one
that
was
a
former
gas
station
that
the
city
inherited
and
they
turned
that
into
a
small
parquet
with
art.
P
P
The
other.
The
other
thing
we
did
was
we
took
a
another
walk
throughout
their
their
downtown
and
they
talked
about
the
different
projects
that
are
going
on
to
help
breathe
Vitality
into
the
area.
It
was
very
reminiscent
for
me
to
think
about
what
we
are
attempting
to
do
along
our
Boulevard
in
bringing
some
housing
onto
the
boulevard
to
give
some
Vitality
to
our
shopping
district
along
the
boulevard.
P
P
Along
with
that,
we
had
a
quite
quite
an
experience
with
the
we
stayed
at
the
Madonna
Inn
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
a
council
member
Taylor
for
his
his
thoughts
on
the
actual
dinner
that
we
had
there
at
the
Madonna
Inn.
D
So
what
was
nice
is
I
invited
my
wife.
We
had
Grandma
and
Grandpa
watch
the
kids
and
got
to
spend
time
with
Bob
and
Sue,
which
was
much
needed
for
us
and
really
enjoyable.
So
everyone
around
you
know
each
city
has
a
table
and
everybody
was
going
around
introducing
themselves
and
you
know
it
turned
into
banter
about
who
produced
the
best
strawberries
and
it
was.
It
was
just
it
was
funny
and
it
was
nice
to
meet
everyone.
D
The
other
thing,
my
wife
and
I
the
next
day
spent
time
in
synonyms
and
Los
Alamos
and
even
prior
to
that
we
went
to
lunch
in
San,
Luis,
Obispo
and
really
quickly
quickly.
My
wife
grasped
my
phone.
She
goes
I'm
going
to
text
Drew
and
she's,
taking
all
these
photos
and
sending
them
to
Drew
like
Drew.
Can
we
do
this?
Can
we
do
that?
So
it
was.
It
was
cool
and
I
agree
with
what
Bob
said
some
of
the
things
that
happened.
D
The
night
of
the
dinner,
the
new
division
chair
mayor,
Erica,
Stewart
from
the
city
of
San,
Luis
Obispo,
was
sworn
in.
There's
a
keynote
speaker,
the
newly
elected
assembly
member
Don
Addis
from
Moro
Bay.
She
was
a
phenomenal
speaker.
We're
engaged
the
whole
time
which
was
really
cool.
She
was
talking
about
some
of
the
bills
that
she's
sponsoring,
including
housing
for
community
college
students
and
support
for
low-income
seniors
to
gain
access
to
the
senior
care
facilities
and
then
the
other
thing
that
that
Bob
kind
of
mentioned
about
the
coastal
communities.
D
They
created
a
caucus
to
provide
representation
for
the
five
counties
along
the
coastal
region
of
the
us-101.
The
vice
chair,
Senator,
Monique
Limon
from
Santa
Barbara.
So
it
was
a
all
in
all.
It
was
really
cool
to
hear
everything
going
on.
It
was
nice
to
have
some
time
just
with
my
wife
and
being
able
to
share
things
going
on
with
the
city
with
her
so
really
really
cool
event.
It
was
great
to
attend.
D
Oh,
that's
a
good
question:
I,
don't
even
remember
the
room,
I
read
but
I'll
digress,
really
quick.
We
finished
the
dinner,
maybe
like
around
10
and
the
pool
was
open
till
11.,
so
my
wife
looks
and
she's
like
you
want
to
go
to
the
pool
I'm
like
okay
and
it's
often
in
the
corner,
it's
quiet.
So
we
thought
we
were
gonna
like
just
you
know,
enjoy
some
quiet.
We
get
there
and
there's
probably
40
50.
D
You
know
between
20
and
25
year
olds
in
the
pool
and
very
quickly
we
walked
in
like
wow
we're
like
Mom
and
Dad.
Here
we
felt
like
you
know
we
stuck
out,
but
it
was.
It
was
fun.
P
P
There's
there's
opportunities
to
interact
with
folks,
which
is
very,
very
good.
My
my
particular
room
was
very
memorable.
Is
the
Portugal
room?
It
was
straight
out
of
1963..
It
was
very
nice.
P
The
the
real
benefit
to
these
things
is.
We
were
able
to
as
as
councilman
Taylor
talks
about
at
the
dinner.
We
were
talking
back
and
forth
with
other
people,
so
there's
a
it's
called
The
Social
Hour,
but
it's
really.
We
have
the
ability
to
talk
to
folks
on
a
personal
basis
about
how
things
are
going
in
their
City,
very
valuable
expense.
Quite
a
bit
of
time
with
a
couple
of
council
members
from
Ventura
talking
about
some
of
the
shared
issues
that
we
have.
P
B
Good
man
that
you
are
with
that
I'd
like
to
ask
for
a
motion
for
16b
one
receive
the
port
two
not
affected
by
sequel
before
I.
Do
that,
though,
I
I
really
really
really
am
grateful.
We
have
the
quality
staff
we
have
here.
City
attorney
reminded
me
just
to
make
it
real
clear
to
everybody
that
at
no
time
while
we
were
lobbying
in
Sacramento
did
we
have
more
than
two
council
members
there
in
front
of
a
legislator,
so
we
would
not
violate
the
brown
act.
So
thank
you.
P
J
Thanks
so
much
mayor,
McNamee,
just
very
briefly,
we'll
be
back
next
week,
as
mentioned
earlier
aside
from
a
couple
special
presentations.
The
only
item
we'll
have
is
our
second
public
hearing,
as
outlined
in
the
process
of
Shifting
to
District
elections.
So
it'll
be
a
bit
of
a
repeat
of
this
evening,
but
another
opportunity
to
have
that
public
hearing
and
that'll
be
next
Tuesday
evening
at
six
o'clock.
B
Thank
you.
We
will
adjourn
this
evening
in
the
memory
of
Cindy
Patterson,
we're
again
adjourning
in
her
memory.
As
a
distinguished
Community
member,
she
passed
away.
B
Cindy
continually
improved
the
program
to
ensure
it
was
the
finest
of
its
kind.
Her
approach
to
ensuring
the
safety
of
residents
in
crosswalks
resulted
an
impressive
achievement
under
her
stewardship
as
one
of
cities,
staff
said
she
just
wasn't
a
leader.
She
was
a
crossing
guard
at
the
core
and
working
tirelessly
in
the
withering
heat
pouring
rain
and
high
winds
because
of
her
real
love
for
children
in
this
community,
Cindy
was
appreciated
for
her
kindness
and
gentle
nature
and
her
ability
to
get
along
with
everyone,
Cindy
loved,
to
create
holiday
decorations.